Knowledge Fight’s #357 episode dissects Alex Jones’ October 16, 2019 broadcast, where he pivoted from bizarre religious conspiracy theories—like "black pyramids" and vampire-run Hollywood—to misrepresent The Good Doctor’s ratings (18M vs. reality’s <6M) and distort Tulsi Gabbard’s stance on gun laws. Jones and Carl Benjamin ("Sargon") ignored Trump’s 3,000-troop Saudi deployment while mocking Brittany Cooper’s obesity critique, twisting her 2001 Journal of the American Medical Women’s Association research into a "Trump blame" joke. Technical glitches and racist riffs underscored Jones’ cult-leaning propaganda, blending apocalyptic Christianity with shock-value trolling, raising concerns about his audience’s radicalization. [Automatically generated summary]
So I considered that, but I started listening to Owen Benjamin's live streams about Alex, and I realized that as much as he is calling him like a drunk and an idiot, which is fun, he's also saying some really, really fucked up stuff that doesn't have any place on this show.
I think that we're seeing some real dangerous trends that I think a lot of people would be wise to pay attention to for what they suggest may come in the future.
And how my mind's been working like a splinter inside of it.
Wanting to find the lever to defeat the globalist and knowing that it was hiding in plain view, but that my conscious mind simply couldn't grasp it.
And then last night, as I was laying in bed at about midnight after I'd been up here co-hosting with the debates, the fourth round of Democrat debates in Westerville, Ohio, it hit me.
And then I just had great restful sleep until I woke up at 6 a.m. this morning.
And I woke up refreshed and knew the mission that needed to be carried out.
You probably weren't paying attention to the debates, so you don't really have anything to cover there other than yelling your normal stuff about Elizabeth Warren and Bernie and blah, blah, blah.
I have been spending the last three months or so very, very frustrated, very pregnant with an idea that I knew was hiding in plain view right in front of me.
But my subconscious and my spirit Was hiding from it because I didn't want the responsibility and also I am ashamed of myself.
And that's really the truth.
Now, I tell you this because it's important to understand that, to understand why all of us who don't openly, consciously, willfully serve darkness still tend to bow to it.
And it's a riddle that if you have the answer to, you really have the keys to eternity.
Although now I'm starting to get those sort of echoes of the other day, like a couple days back, Alex saying that God is calling him to declare himself a leader.
I mean, you're using exaggeration, but like, the way he's when you hear people talk, especially people of the sort of inclinations that Alex has about doing what must be done, it's generally not like positive things.
It usually has like, well, we've been pretending we don't want violence for a long time.
The enemy, by being abused as children or having genetic predisposition towards it, by training, by lust, by a lot of different ways, prepare themselves to take on the evil operating system, the spirit of Satan.
They actively do that.
They go through rituals.
They go through training to be able to throw off any connection to God, to harden their hearts, and to willfully cut themselves off from God so they can be with Satan.
I would love for him to clarify exactly what sort of genetic link he's discovered here, but I think having listened to as much of his show as I have, I already know the answer.
Two out of the three ways he's given here for how people become part of his enemy team are things that are completely out of their control.
One of them is being the victim of a crime, and the other is based on genetics.
I don't understand how someone who yells about free will all the time and all that is just lumping people around like this for things that they didn't have any choice in.
The devil is able to then manipulate you to feel like you're not worthy to have communion with God and that you're not worthy to be a leader.
So the average Christian or the person that's connected to God basically disconnects from God and thinks that, well, you know, that's something that I can't really be a part of because it's so magnificent and so timeless and so powerful that you want to crawl under a rock.
Now, the occultists just want to get it completely out of the universe because then they think they wouldn't feel so bad about themselves.
I just hear there Alex talking about more or less a rationalization for himself declaring himself a religious leader.
Yeah.
Because that most people won't do this because of shame and this guilt.
And they won't stand in the presence of God because it feels like he's talking about things that have held him back from declaring himself a religious leader.
Feeling like I am a pile of shit.
I feel a psychodrama being played out, more or less.
But in the context of projecting it onto believers in the audience.
The thing that confuses me, or it doesn't confuse me, it's obvious and it's stupid.
But if the vast majority of evangelisms, like 90% plus evangelicals, voted for and support Trump no matter what, and he's saying that the average Christian is full of shit and is in league with the devil, basically, then I think he's saying he's a Satanist.
They'll see something discredited, disproven, and the establishment will change a 180 and they'll adopt that right away because they are given over to strong delusion.
Anyway, just because it's fun, here's some other quotes from 2 Timothy that Alex should think about.
Chapter 2, verse 16 says, quote, shun profane and vain babblings, for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
I can't think of a better description of Alex's retelling of the three little pigs from Wednesday than profane and vain babbling.
That chapter also says, quote, the servant of God must not strive, but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves.
I can think of few things that describe Alex less than gentle unto all, apt to teach, and patient.
In chapter 4 of 2 Timothy, Paul instructs Timothy to bring him his cloak and talks about Alexander the coppersmith, who he hopes will be punished by God.
Just talk some shit about this coppersmith he doesn't like.
Well, I mean, we learned that Tommy Robinson and Sargon of Akkad, when they tried to get Twitter accounts for their runs for Parliament in the UK, they were still like, fuck off.
Yeah, yeah.
So I think that Alex probably wouldn't be able to rebrand and then come back to social media.
I think he's got to sell off the warehouse, get enough money to weather that storm, and then come back in some form as purely religious outlet.
And then any kind of attempts at censoring him become even more compelling because he's like, I'm just trying to block my religion or whatever.
And it would be one thing, I think, if he was legitimately trying to just say, hey, I believe in Christianity, and I want as many people to know the joys and the love that comes from Christianity.
But the issue is, while he's trying to proselytize and get people into God and Jesus, he's also saying, don't go to church.
See, a lot of people have connections to God, but the false churches lure them to them so that these Satanists and others can control you and misdirect you.
And because you have the real light in you, they want to send you out to bring other people to them so they can then flip it and take control of that whole flock of people and lead them into a spider hole.
But, like, still, like, what you're doing here is trying to get people into a specific niche.
Your extreme right-wing, possibly Christian identity-leaning religious beliefs, that's what you want people to subscribe to with a religious fervor, as opposed to just being interested in bringing people to Jesus.
Satan wants to torture your soul because it's all Satan has.
Satan is a loser.
Satan is a joke.
But God did create Satan and knew what Satan was going to do as a tester because God has to have his children tested and had to give his free will and can't stand to watch how many people fall.
I don't know what fucking contradiction, how he's able to get around that in his mind somehow, being obsessed with free will and then maligning people because of being the victims of crimes or their genetic makeup.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I remember my Bible, it seems like God made it clear on multiple occasions that it was blasphemous to tell him what his reasons for doing anything are, or even try and tell other people why God does whatever he does.
And apparently, Alex has a direct line to here's why God does everything.
Another thing that I think is really funny is that, so Alex is like, you know, the verse that he pulled that he was reading was from 2 Timothy.
And I would ask him, if he wants to declare himself a religious leader, I think he should read 1 Timothy also, because in 1 Timothy 3, it discusses the requirements of someone who will be considered to be a bishop in the church in Paul's church.
Quote, a bishop must be above reproach, married only once, temperate, sensible, respectable, hospitable, an apt teacher, not a drunkard, not violent, but gentle, not quarrelsome, and not a lover of money.
No, he comes back to uh, he's out of studio or whatever doing something.
Um, I don't know what he's uh just uh playing a special report about the good doctor finding another thing that uh a bishop requires that he can't do great, yeah.
So you go from weird religious rant into special report about how there's a TV show about him.
So it's true that that show, The Good Doctor, it did hit the ground running when it first started, when it premiered in its first season, and it averaged about 17 million viewers early on in that first season, but that did not last.
According to Nielsen, season two of the show, which started in September 2018 and ended in March 2019, in that season, the show averaged 6.731 million viewers and was never higher than 7.7, which was the season finale.
Season 3, which is currently airing, has seen a further drop in ratings, with the show averaging under 6 million viewers for the first four episodes aired.
The reason Alex is citing the higher number is that that higher number is at least two years old.
And the reason he's doing that is because the idea that a show with that many viewers would stoop to attacking Alex elevates his stature.
It's an act of vanity, pure and simple.
It's less impressive to say that a side character was a parody of you on a show that was beat easily in the ratings by The Voice and Dancing with the Stars, but that would be more accurate.
Also, I would be remiss not to point out how this special report gave me whiplash.
Alex spent the first hour of his show basically this disturbing religious rant, then he goes to commercial, the show returns, and it's him bragging about a show with super high ratings making fun of him.
This show is disjointed as hell.
Like, I don't know how whoever's working the board didn't come up with something that wouldn't appear to be largely contradictory of the selflessness and the religious tone of the first part of the show.
And as I told you, at the start of the next hour, I'm going to actually air this entire special report where dozens and dozens of movies, documentaries, TV shows admit that they are creating characters based on Alex Jones, and then they come out and say in the news that this is Alex Jones and then misrepresent who I am in an attempt to again create this false archetype.
So I regret to inform you, Jordan, that the Alex Jones show is currently in reruns.
We did this news cycle back when there was a character that was similar to Alex on Homeland.
Back when Alex was yelling about how that was designed to turn him into a bad guy so the globalists could kill him, and then that didn't happen.
I would guess that if there are actually dozens of characters based on Alex in movies and documentaries, then there's a simpler explanation than they're all based on Alex.
I could see the possible explanation being that there are way more people walking around in public who sound like Alex than there used to be.
Creating characters on a show involves relatability.
And it seems like this day, more people know somebody who's a bit like Alex.
If there are more characters on shows like this, it's less likely that Alex is super popular and relevant, and that's why.
It's more likely that the stupidity that he's championed for years has become more mainstream.
Like in the same way that people could be getting the same sort of bullshit from Fox News now or Tucker, as opposed to usually being something that those folks would be ashamed to engage in.
Priesthoods pop up and then tell you you've got to go through them to get to the metaphysical that you know is real.
And then that's where all of the disinformation and craziness comes from.
And those priesthoods always end up within 10 generations, it's usually five, engaging in mass human sacrifice to horned devil gods on top of black pyramids.
And believe me, the only reason we're not in nuclear war and mass death and the hedge of protection already removed from us is because God loves our ancestors that prayed for us and that understood what was happening and understood that these times were coming and were literally praying hours a day, quietly, silently, for the future.
Because if you have a situation where there's enough prayer coming from your ancestors, that means that there was a point where it became enough prayer.
Like what's over under for how many prayers you need.
I would say there's an alternative explanation that's completely possible for why these sorts of Christians that Alex hangs out with had a bad time taking DMT.
And it literally has nothing to do with literal demons.
From everything I've read or heard about the experience, taking DMT or ayahuasca puts a person into a state where some of the things that they've been struggling with on a subconscious level and maybe trying to ignore become very clear to them.
I have friends who have taken it and said it was a challenging experience where they were forced to confront and work through a lot of stuff that they'd been suppressing.
I have one friend who's a super happy-go-lucky type of person who took it and said it was just really interesting, like a good hallucination kind of experience.
The point is, a lot of what you experience in those states depends on what you bring to the table.
It's certainly not the case for all Christians, but I would guess a lot of the sort of Christians who Alex is associating with might be a particular sort of Christian.
They might be a bit on the fire and brimstone side of the equation.
They might be the sort to argue pre- and post-tribulation rapture really aggressively.
They might be the sort who are stuck in the part of Christian belief that emphasizes that humans are deficient by nature.
Taking those sorts of beliefs into a hallucinogenic experience like this is often going to be a bad experience since these beliefs don't really stand up to scrutiny all that well.
All you have to base them on are feelings and your beliefs about this stuff.
All you need is some kind of insecurity about the idea that an all-loving God would create existence as a cruel test, and your subconscious will do the rest.
Any kind of feelings that you've been suppressing about your beliefs, you'll be confronted with.
And if you try and fight it, like I know from taking acid and mushrooms in the past, that the way that one of the ways that you can end up having a very bad time is by fighting thoughts in your head.
And the same is true of even weed to a lesser degree.
You'll end up trapped in weird conflicts with yourself that you don't really need.
There's a path that you can go on.
Yeah, no, I suspect that anybody who works for Alex would not be able to handle being confronted with subconscious things that they are like if you work for Alex, you know on some level that you work for a liar.
Second, there's zero chance that Man Cow paid $15,000 for an ayahuasca retreat in Costa Rica.
There's a group called Soltara that offers retreats, and for their one-week retreat, their most expensive package is just under $7,000.
And that's for two people who get to stay in a private couple suite, and it covers all the costs for the week that you're there, like food, everything.
Mankow says on the show that he was there for a week, so it's likely that he paid about two grand, which is pretty standard for people who go and do non-luxury trips like this.
The entire episode of Mankow's show is about how ayahuasca is a medicine that helps people overcome trauma and reconnect with themselves.
There's no conversation about everybody seeing the same aliens.
There's no demon possession, nothing.
Mankow talks about recovering memories from his past and says that some of them were even beautiful to him.
He asks the guy who runs with me about the guides or clockwork elves, and Mankow explicitly says, quote, I didn't see any of that.
It's all bullshit.
If you actually listen to Mankow's podcast with this guy, it's one of the more palatable Mankow.
It's very unlike the experiences that I've personally had with Mankow and other times I've heard him.
Yeah.
He's talking about how a friend of his was having a really, really hard time and needed to go to this retreat.
And I can't remember exactly if it was like the friend of his went before and that's why he went or if they went together.
But whatever the case, he went and he said that it was a really interesting experience.
And the guy who's on is just talking about it in the context of, you know, you go and you're shown these important moments in your memories and your past.
There's even a conversation between him and this dude who runs the resort talking about the difference in belief of like whether it's a mystical thing or a chemical thing.
And the guy's like, I don't really care if you believe if you believe that it's a chemical thing, then that's your experience and that's great.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
If you have a chemical experience that allows you the same benefit as somebody else who believes it's a mystical experience, what's the reason we should argue about this?
Right, right, right, right.
There is no like, there's no orthodoxy.
There's no, there's no, there's, there's no aliens.
So, and the other thing that, like, you know, the only thing that's even close is that the guy who's on this podcast with Mankow does mention that he's had experiences taking ayahuasca where he and somebody else who had taken it had a shared experience.
And to the extent that that is subjective, or even if it is both of their subjective experiences, I don't know.
I don't know if that's real.
I don't know.
But I also believe that there's a possibility that it could be, maybe.
But I also don't think that proves anything.
You hear similar stories from people about meditation and lucid dreaming.
You hear that shared subconscious experience in other avenues.
I think that that's something that people we might learn more about as we get a greater understanding of how our brains work.
And if that's the case, then Alex should think Man Cow is evil because the function of that podcast then would be just to get more food for the aliens or whatever, the demons.
So Man Cow would be an active promoter of feeding time.
Yeah, Alex can't really get into the debates, though, and he doesn't at this point, really, at all, except to say that Tulsi is like, he's sort of suggesting that she's good because of this endless war thing, but I think that she is just there in order to take out Trump.
By the way, Seth Gordon, the producer of the show that says to the Hollywood Reporter and others that this show was to target me, turns out he works for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the United Nations World Development Fund.
That's right.
That's who he works for.
And of course, Bill and Melinda Gates funds a lot of the shows on ABC.
There's no citation on what work he did with the Gates Foundation or the UN, but I'm going to guess it has to do with the six months he spent teaching in Kenya.
Jesus Christ.
According to an article about him in Reuters, promoting his upcoming film For Christmases, which he also directed, quote, after discovering that the Kenyan infrastructure leaves school building to the locals, he helped get philanthropic UN financing to finish up Shimonyaro's school and then filmed the students and residents as they experienced the ensuing changes.
His work was working towards a documentary called Building Shimanyaro.
And if I had to guess, this is where the path intersects with the Gates and the UN.
Either that or Bill Gates secretly funded the Baywatch movie starring The Rock, which Gordon also directed.
I don't have any evidence, and neither does Alex that he works for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation or the UN, but that his path probably intersected with their interests and the sort of things that the Development Council might get involved with while he was trying to help build schools in Kenya years ago.
That might not be a great development for his rhetoric.
Yeah.
But who knows?
I don't know.
I don't care.
I don't care.
It's just like this is the same thing as saying the good doctor has 17, 18 million viewers.
It's to elevate who's making the attack on you.
This guy happened to direct a video that had some funding from the Gates Foundation and the UN when he was trying to help a small Kenyan school get built, which intersected with their interest.
He doesn't work for them.
He's directing movies and TV.
It's just crazy.
All it does is to serve to make it look like, aha, this is part of the targeted attack upon me.
Now, mic down for this, because pay attention to how this exchange goes, because I think this low-key is one of the most revealing clips that we maybe have ever played.
So, first of all, by the logic that Saudi Arabia is our ally, so Trump has to send troops to support them over there, then he's similarly obligated to protect the Kurds.
They're one of our allies in the region and have been on our side in a far more real way than Saudi Arabia.
Now, Carl is saying that in order to justify why it's good to send troops to Saudi Arabia, and it's not in any way a contradiction of the promises Trump made to bring troops home.
Now, ignore for a minute that Alex was convinced recently by Joel Skousen that Trump taking troops out of northern Syria was going to lead to a larger war and more troops going in because this goddamn show exists outside of context.
Alex has obviously, intentionally ignored Trump sending troops to Saudi Arabia.
From everything I've listened to, this is just something that he's pretending didn't happen because he knows he can't justify it at all.
That's why when Carl brings it up, Alex first tries to pretend that what's really happening is that Trump is sending the missile defense systems.
But Carl doesn't realize that this is not a welcome talking point on Alex's show.
So he tries to correct Alex because he doesn't know any better that Trump is sending troops.
And the only way forward now is to accept a compromise.
Namely, that Trump is sending troops, but only a couple to man the missile defense systems.
That's so revealing because what that is is an uncontrolled variable entering Alex's controlled bubble.
And then you see how it's mitigated.
You see the conversation that's happening is very clear.
The message that Alex is sending is stop it.
Stop it.
And, you know, Carl knows well enough to be like, oh, yeah, okay.
He can tell that there's pushback on this very real thing.
And he's like, oh, why would anybody push back on that?
Oh, it contradicts the narrative.
Alex is lying because he can't afford to tell the truth.
The missile defense systems were sent last month, along with a couple hundred troops to Saudi Arabia.
And that was a response to the attack on Saudi oil interests that Trump has blamed on Iran.
On October 11th, the New York Times reported that Trump was sending approximately 3,000 additional troops, which were not just people to man the missile defense systems.
Alex is so full of shit, but that clip is very special to me because it demonstrates malice.
Carl has no idea what things from the real world are okay to talk about on Infowars and which are not.
I'm old enough to remember when the left wanted us to pull out of the Middle East, and now to hear them screaming about how we should stay there is an amazing last night's debate.
But the question that the left really needs to ask itself in this regard is: do we have the moral mandate to impose our version of human rights on the Middle East?
Because people in the Middle East broadly don't agree with what we consider to be human rights.
And I'm not sure what Carl is basing his ideas on.
I'd love to see some data.
I suppose he could be talking about a number of polls that have been done that show a trend in countries in the region of not believing in equality for women.
You could see things like that as signs of an unsalvageable difference in cultures, or you could realize that the polling numbers would look really similar if you did them in the U.S. in the 1950s.
A lot of this just seems unfounded and based on deep cultural hatred towards Muslims.
I really don't see any other way to look at this.
So I kind of get the sense that what Carl is doing is just assuming that the terrorists and extremists are completely representative of the people of the region, and that does not seem fair.
And look, dude, earlier this year, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced the formation of a Commission on Unalienable Rights, which he said would, quote, revisit the most basic of questions.
What does it mean to say or claim that something is in fact a human right?
He went on to say, quote, how can there be human rights we possess, not as privileges we're granted or even earned, but simply by virtue of our humanity belonging to us?
Is it in fact true, as our Declaration of Independence asserts, that as human beings, we, all of us, every member of our human family, are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights?
If you hear someone in Trump's cabinet floating questions about whether or not people have rights just because they're people, you better prepare yourself for the answer they come up with to be maybe not or worse.
I've found that when people insist on asking long-ago-answered questions, it generally means that they don't like the answer that everyone already came to.
It doesn't make things look any better when you learn that Glad protested the commission, having found overt anti-LGBTQ statements made by seven out of the nine members appointed to the commission.
My point is, I guess, that is the point being that there's human rights issues all over the place.
I don't know what Carl is talking about when he says that the Middle East isn't into human rights like we are.
And since he doesn't give me any citations to go on, I kind of just have to assume that he just feels that way and doesn't care about other instances of human rights issues around the world.
Also, by the way, with that, can't trust anybody with that mustache.
For the longest time, when Steve Pieczenik hadn't revealed his, you know, he was just hiding when he blurred his pictures when he was in Korea and stuff.
The only picture Alex had of him was from the 70s.
I get it if you like because it's so stark, they have to go so far in the opposite direction.
Like, if it was just a little bit of that, if it was just a little bit of that phone call and there was no other information, they could be like, oh, well, you're all blowing it out of proportion.
And they could at least acknowledge that it exists.
Because it's so obvious how criminal this enterprise is.
They're just like, I don't even know what they're talking about.
I've never heard anything.
I don't know.
I can't hear.
I'm dead.
Like, it's just so hard to the delusional, to the denialist.
She's very attractive in the things she says and physically compared to them.
But there's just some people are really concerned that this is mental judo or something and a sneak attack that they're really planning to act like she's the dark horse they're holding back from us, but then she will surge onto the stage and it's really bad news.
So I think that there's an interesting thing that everybody's got to be kind of aware of, and that is that this world likes Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang universally.
It's very strange that those two are the candidates that people in the extreme right wing, like Alex, are cool with, weirdly, and people who are, you know, more, I don't even know what you'd call Carl, quite frankly.
So apparently world leaders are not immune to deplatforming if they cross some red lines, which include promotion of terrorism, doxing, child sexual exploitation, promoting self-harm, and in the most obvious thing at Trump, clear and direct threats of violence against an individual.
65 million Twitter followers and is using that sector as the president of the United States to openly intimidate witnesses, to threaten witnesses, to obstruct justice.
So, you know, you know who does things because they're not supposed to?
Children.
That's a basic part of cognitive development.
You're supposed to make it through pretty early.
But here we see a 45-year-old self-described genius defending his use of physical insults against Elizabeth Warren by saying he's doing it because people say he shouldn't.
This is also what you expect to hear from a rebellious teen trying to justify how they started smoking.
Not from an adult who spent the first hour of his show rambling about being on a mission from God.
It's all good, and I choose to do this show, but Jordan, we're fast approaching a point where my analysis is just going to be a broken record, where I shame the people in Alex's life for not recognizing warning signs.
And yeah, it's true that a lot of the things that are really troubling about what Alex is doing, they could be elements of a performance.
But I would rather err on the side taking this seriously, these symptoms that he's manifesting.
Even if we're talking about him putting on an act, this part of him talking over Kamala Harris about Elizabeth Warren is just because they tell him not to.
Yeah, yeah.
This is a fourth-grade fucking assembly.
They're all in a goddamn gym.
Somebody is giving a talk and he's talking to his friend while they're talking.
It's obviously trying to get negative attention from people who would be like, how dare you criticize this woman's appearance?
And sure, I mean, but that's what children do, too.
They thrive on this negative attention.
It's the pestering.
He's operating on an adolescent level while at the same time saying that God is asking him to declare himself a leader and going on this religious quest.
This is a complete bullshit retelling of his behaviors.
So, I mean, this is just rank disrespect for his guest who's like trying to give him an out, which would honestly be a perfectly acceptable out for him to take.
Granted, it might be tough because he's being sued right now.
But for him to say, like at any point, for him to have said, I did believe that I was wrong.
I was misled by a number of people who I believe to be credible sources at the time.
There's no shame in that, unless you're Alex.
He can't be wrong about anything ever.
And so it just makes lies build on top of each other.
And they're not having a real conversation.
Like, Alex is just insulting him, forcing Carl to bend to his propaganda, and then lying to his face.
So Leanne McAdoo is back to visit, so she sits in with Alex and Carl, and the whole thing completely deteriorates into Alex doing some pretty racist riffing about a video he plays of a black woman discussing obesity.
The straw man version that they're attacking is that this woman in the video is blaming Trump for getting her fat.
Because they've set this up as her argument, they then become free to goof on how stupid she is and descend into all sorts of super awesome riffs about how everyone who complains about racism is just an unhinged crazy person.
Sure.
Because they've created the false argument.
And this was all the rage in the right-wing media.
All the outlets have their own articles about this clip, and they all have the same angle.
Gender studies professor says black women are fat because of Trump.
In reality, this is a clip of a woman named Brittany Cooper, and she's discussing actual issues that Alex would rather discuss fake versions of.
If you actually watch the clip or read anything Cooper's put out, you'll see that the things she was pointing out that put black women at a disadvantage are lower rates of insurance and worse health care, for example.
Those are issues that she's pointing to.
She also mentions a theory that racism makes diets not work as well for black women as they do for white women.
And of course, this is just the stupidest SJW nonsense that Alex and Carl have ever heard.
But in reality, there are some indications that this might be true.
Maybe not racism exactly, but the experience of dealing with racism.
Cooper is specifically talking about research that has grown out of a paper published in 2001 by the Journal of the American Medical Women's Association.
This paper was looking at the racial inequalities in women's health in the country, one of the focal points being that, quote, excessive levels of chronic morbidity and disability are widespread among African American women regardless of socioeconomic position.
Because the trend exists on the larger spectrum, it's harder for them to chalk that up solely to having to do with access to health care or poverty, since it's across the socio-political economic spectrum.
Thus, the author proposed a model called weathering, which, quote, suggests that African American women experience early health deterioration as a consequence of the cumulative impact of repeated experience of social, economic, and political exclusion.
This includes the physical cost of engaging actively to address societal and structural barriers to achievement and well-being.
It would be really hard to definitively prove this theory, but a number of peer-reviewed studies have been able, they've been done that tend to suggest that they might be onto something.
This might be a model that explains things much better than other models that people have looked at, whether it be a strict poverty model, strict class model, a strict model that looks at just a genetic predisposition for things.
Well, whether or not that's the case for everyone, what Cooper is arguing in the way she's articulating it is that something about this experience that we have, it leads to stress changes to the way our body works.
And so things that would work normally, X diet, let's say, doesn't work because of the metabolism changes that stress responses have caused.
I don't know if this has 100% been proven, but peer-reviewed studies that have been done have indicated that there might be something to this.
So I'm inclined not to write this off as some kind of just stupid bullshit, and rather that this might be an important conversation.
No, and I would imagine that what also contributes to it is in the same way that women don't have heart medications are far less likely to work for women is because they're mainly tested on men.
Like all these studies about example.
Yeah, yeah, all the studies about diet and all of that shit are almost certainly focused entirely upon white people.
So the idea that it's simply something that people aren't paying attention to or studying is also may be the case.
The point here is that this woman is talking about something real that affects communities that Alex is not a part of and doesn't care about at all.
Instead of engaging with what she's actually saying and recognizing that she's not attacking him and not attacking Trump specifically even, he has to run to his safe bubble and create a straw man of her argument to attack.
And of course, that safe bubble that he has is pretty racist.
Yep.
So anyway, I mean, it's just unbelievable.
Like, the elements of it are like real stupid.
You know, creating the straw man to attack where she's blaming Trump for being fat or something is stupid.
And then the other part of it, too, is that it's just all over right-wing media.
Like, there's an article about it on The Blaze on Fox News.
It's just like, this is a talking point.
This is like Alex is just doing like, he might as well just be riffing on stupid right-wing news.
Obviously, this was just an attempt to troll and rile up the trans community, who she'd made a large part of her career victimizing.
That's all this was meant to do.
In most of the coverage of this, I can find, it doesn't seem like people took the bait.
A lot of responses that I found were more focused on how sad this kind of stunt was and how it demonstrates a fundamental disinterest in learning anything about the communities that she was attacking.
Ultimately, most people saw this for what it was: a publicity stunt intended to make money off angering people who care about social justice.
Lauren worked for Rebel Media at the time and already had a career going that was full of sad, offensive stunts.
So anyone who knew what she was about knew what she was doing.
I saw some responses that were along the lines of saying things like, this is a great demonstration of the progress being made in Canada where someone's identity isn't questioned and belittled by doctors they consult.
Which I think is probably the best way to take a propagandist stunt and take the power away from them.
And thus she moved on to trying to raise money for her to go along with the white supremacist adjacent group Generation Identity to intercept boats of refugees in the Mediterranean Sea.
Then she moved on to complaining about how a ton of her fans treat her like shit because she's a white woman and not subservient to a husband and cranking out white kids.
And then she moved on to quitting political stuff in June 2019.
Leanne.
If Alex wanted to do this sort of thing, this kind of stunt, I guess he's welcome to, but I don't think he'd get the response that Carl's pretending he would.
I suspect people would just see it as a pathetic, desperate man trying to get attention the only way he knows how, by acting out and trying to make people angry, which again is what children do.
But again, like I said, I think that there is value and a need to, at least in some fashion, keep track of the fact that Alex seems to be in the early stages of pivoting into being an outright cult leader.
Yeah, what wouldn't surprise me at all, based on the trends that we're seeing, is as the mainstream, quote, alt right media has transformed more into Alex's show, I wouldn't be surprised if next year all of their shows are apocalyptically religious and openly racist and transphobic.
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