#345: September 19, 2019
Today, Dan and Jordan take a look at the present day of The Alex Jones Show and find Alex taking his dreams of American expansion into the stars and hanging out with a couple of celebrity guests.
Sept. 20, 2019 - Knowledge Fight
01:31:29
Participants
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| It's time to pray. | ||
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I have great respect for knowledge fight. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
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Andy in Kansas. | |
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your word. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Have you ever quit a race or dropped out or lost? | ||
| Have I ever entered a race? | ||
| Have you ever run a race? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Like physically or like metaphorically a la campaign? | ||
| I've often thought about like a half marathon or something like that. | ||
| I've often thought about doing something like that. | ||
| Especially in those times in my life when I was going to the gym more in shape. | ||
| I was thinking about like, why don't I do that? | ||
| I never got around to it. | ||
| If I ever get healthy again, I may. | ||
| No, the only races I can come up with, well, one is physical. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And that was back when we'd do the mile run back in, like, fifth grade. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I realized that it didn't matter at all, so I would just walk it. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I'm not going to fucking exert any outline. | ||
| You don't want the Presidential Fitness Award? | ||
| Ooh, gym teacher did not like that. | ||
| Me getting lapped on the track by people. | ||
| I was like, I don't give a shit. | ||
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It's not going to change anything. | |
| Impress you? | ||
| It's not going to change anything. | ||
| This is my climate change strength! | ||
| Impress this cranky Vietnam vet gym teacher? | ||
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Nah. | |
| It's not going to happen, even if I run really fast. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That was a bad race. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, in, like, junior high... | ||
| I think it was junior high. | ||
| We had like class presidential races and stuff. | ||
| I thought that was all silly. | ||
| Did you try? | ||
| Well, I decided I was going to run for school pope. | ||
| Because I was that brand of dumbass. | ||
| Deeply annoying. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That is such a, like, you're in junior high and you hear that and you're like, ha ha, uh. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| That's very funny. | ||
| Oh no, I'm already bored with it. | ||
| Yep, I was the guy who was like, nah, let's light a ride, let's see what happens. | ||
| Nothing happened. | ||
| But yeah, I've not had good luck with races of any kind. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Be it foot race or political race. | ||
|
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Yeah, I dropped out of the white race, so I'm... | |
| You've made that very clear. | ||
| So this is a podcast where I don't know too much about being fleet-footed or politically savvy, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| And I don't know anything about either. | ||
| That is correct. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting podcast episode to do and stuff to go over, but before we get down to business, we're going to take a little moment here to say thank you to people who have signed up and are supporting the show. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| First of all, Andrew, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Andrew. | ||
| Next, Tim. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Tim. | ||
| Next, Jennifer. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, David. | ||
| Next, Generic Otter. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Make a generic otter. | ||
| No, I refuse to accept that every otter is unique and special in their own way. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Otters are way better than people. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| They can float. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Unlike people. | ||
| And they hold hands when they float. | ||
|
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Come on! | |
| People can do neither. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who signed up on an elevated level. | ||
| We appreciate it very much. | ||
| So first, Jane, thank you so much. | ||
| And then Dick Cheney made money off the Iraq War. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are both wonderful technocrats. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Crikey, mate. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right? | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimps so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare Infowar on you. | ||
| Thank you so much, Jane, and Dick Cheney made money off the Iraq war. | ||
| Yes, thank you so much. | ||
| If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I like what these guys do, I'd like to support the show, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking that button that says support the show, we would appreciate it. | ||
| It'd be lovely. | ||
| So, elephant in the room, Jordan, this episode's coming out a little bit late. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And I apologize for that to the good people of the world and to you also, because, you know, this is a pain. | ||
| Oh, well, we both... | ||
| Mixing up schedule and what have you. | ||
| Yeah, we both had stuff. | ||
| I was sick all day yesterday and most of this morning. | ||
| And I explained this a little bit on Facebook, but the... | ||
| I tweeted that I had a slight or a light bungling of the schedule. | ||
| And what was going on is that Alex Jones has been in California for the better part of this week. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I didn't want to do three 2013 episodes in a week and Wacky Wednesday possibilities were all dead ends that I was going in. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I was like, Alex is in California. | ||
| That almost certainly means that he's going on Rogan. | ||
| Or there's a decent chance. | ||
| And that means that I gotta be ready to do that episode at the drop of a hat. | ||
| Yeah, you were a fireman in that situation. | ||
| You ever see those guys in, like, I don't know, a coming-of-age movie? | ||
| You know, they always pan to the football field and the guys are running in place ready to do a push-up. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That's you? | ||
| That's how I was. | ||
| Okay, you were doing that. | ||
| I was ready to go in case Rogan goes live with Alex and then I gotta drop and do ten. | ||
| Any moment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then it didn't happen. | ||
| So by the time Alex got back, From California, it was already cutting it real tight for us to be able to get an episode out. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So thankfully we were able to do this and get this out, which I think is actually very interesting and maybe the next best thing to Alex being on Rogan. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And that is today we're going over the September 19th, 2019 episode, which is Thursday of this week. | ||
| And here's a little out of context drop where Alex talks about how, you know, not too long ago he said he was going to politically murder Joe Rogan and called him a sneaky snake and all that good stuff. | ||
| I want to get into some Joe Rogan stuff here, but I love Joe to death. | ||
| Even though Jesus told me to destroy him, I'm joking. | ||
| I was in like two bottles of tequila at that point, folks. | ||
| Metaphysically. | ||
| Metaphysically, two bottles of tequila, yeah. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| How can you... | ||
| I think that's literally two bottles of tequila in. | ||
| You can be metaphysically one bottle of tequila in, but you can only be physically two bottles of tequila in. | ||
| That takes action. | ||
| That's dedication. | ||
| You might have heard laughter in the background. | ||
| That's our old friend Eddie Bravo. | ||
| That's our old friend Eddie Bravo. | ||
| I was tipped off to that. | ||
| Eddie Bravo shows up along with his co-host from his podcast, the Tinfoil Hat Podcast, a guy by the name of Sam Tripoli. | ||
| I'm not sure you're aware of that cat. | ||
| I've heard his name. | ||
| Comedian. | ||
| Guy. | ||
| We're going to see how this plays out. | ||
| They're on for most of the show. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| So, we'll get to that when we get to it, but we gotta start the show how Alex starts it. | ||
| He has a big special report that he wants to premiere, and he keeps saying this thing needs to go viral. | ||
| So, I'm here... | ||
| Well, everything he does needs to go viral for him to keep going. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And I'm here to do my part. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I do not want this to go viral, but let's enjoy a little bit of it. | ||
| A little special report. | ||
| This video is exclusively on Infowars.com. | ||
| And NewsWars.com and Summit.News video. | ||
| Communist Party of China issues direct message to the American people. | ||
| Paul Watson retweeted it. | ||
| Rob Dewey retweeted it. | ||
| We need to get this out. | ||
| Throwing down the gauntlet, the Central Committee tells Americans to submit to their fate. | ||
| So they're being very honest about this. | ||
| And so here is the dictator of Communist China, uncloaked and in your face. | ||
| This needs to go viral. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
|
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Attention, American pigs. | |
| China is in control of your country now. | ||
| We own Hollywood. | ||
|
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What? | |
| We own your debt, and we own Harvard and the Democratic Party. | ||
| We have all your military calls. | ||
| This is insanity. | ||
| Is this breakfast at Tiffany's? | ||
| What the fuck just happened? | ||
| Now, I have a couple thoughts about this. | ||
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Oh, do you? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Just a couple? | ||
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The first is, even as a racist impression, this is bad. | |
| This is not... | ||
| This isn't quality stuff. | ||
| Second, I have a strong suspicion Alex is trying to chase some of that Shane Gillis heat. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Oh, this dude just got fired from SNL by being overtly racist against Asians. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| I'm going to jump in that pool. | ||
| If I can do that, maybe I can piggyback on his racism. | ||
| And just as people are defending him, people will be like, hey, why can't you do a racist? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Yeah, just trying to ride that wave that's been created by Gillis. | ||
| What a transparent asshole. | ||
| But this is, I mean, this is crazy. | ||
| This is too much. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| It goes even further. | ||
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It does. | |
| Alex Jones presents the Chai-Khan Takeover. | ||
| The Chai-Khan Takeover. | ||
| So take your fentanyl and your tainted vaccines and your melamine and your baby formula we make for you. | ||
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and die. | |
| And don't fight back or the media will call your name. | ||
| You certainly don't want that. | ||
| I think Alex, that's exactly what he wants. | ||
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He wants the media to call him racist so he can play around in the mud. | |
| That's all this is. | ||
| God. | ||
| This is a ridiculously desperate ploy for attention. | ||
|
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This is a 70s episode of Scooby-Doo. | |
| This is not good. | ||
|
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It's ridiculous. | |
| This is not good. | ||
| I turned on the episode and this is how it was starting. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| This is swinging for the fences. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, what is more punk in 2019? | ||
| Not this. | ||
| Fucking Christ. | ||
| So I was listening to this on audio and I was very curious about like... | ||
| No, I mean, he said this is a video. | ||
| Tell me he's not wearing a fucking hat. | ||
| I thought for sure it'd be Alex in disguise or something like that. | ||
| And I'm thrilled to report to you that that is not the case. | ||
| Alex didn't go for some kind of offensive Trudeau-style race makeup, let's say. | ||
| Well, did he wear the hat? | ||
| No. | ||
| He didn't wear the hat. | ||
| No. | ||
| There's no costuming. | ||
| There's nothing. | ||
| Good. | ||
| However, it is animated. | ||
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No! | |
| Of course! | ||
| And it's just a big talking dragon. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Did it have wings? | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| Then it's even more ignorant and racist. | ||
| I can't confirm or deny whether they're dead wings, but I can say that this is all just a really sad attempt at getting people... | ||
| It's just racism trolling or something. | ||
| That's how it feels. | ||
| You're going over the top and being specifically... | ||
| I can't see it in any other lens other than like... | ||
| Hey, it's cool now. | ||
| I'm going to be as racist as I want to. | ||
| Or I know that there's going to be some blowback of attention that I get from this that I can maybe translate into some sales. | ||
| Yeah, and he's going to try and call it edgy humor. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| Because clearly, look at me, clearly I'm going over the top and this is parody and you're like, you don't understand what parody is. | ||
| Well, he does immediately explain that it's satire. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Okay, I'm going to do this right now. | ||
| That was obviously satire. | ||
| We were not being serious that that is Xi's message to us, but in action, that is what China is doing. | ||
| Does he understand what satire is? | ||
| I'm not sure, but it's good as a sign whenever you perform a piece of satire that you have to immediately and almost reflexively be like, that was satire. | ||
| Guys. | ||
| I know that you probably think that was actually G. It was not satire, guys. | ||
| I remember that being the last chapter of A Modest Proposal. | ||
| Jonathan Swift went through a long diatribe of why that is funny and how people should react to it. | ||
| And then he said that he did actually, though, want to eat Irish babies. | ||
| It's the mark of great commentary, great satire, when you have to knee-jerk, make sure people know, hey, we're fucking around here. | ||
| Because otherwise it's going to look really fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think this is a really lame thing, and I think it's really interesting this is how it kind of kicked off, because I feel like everything is just... | ||
| Desperate ploys for attention. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Much like having Eddie Bravo and Sam Tripoli on, I think is, like, get some of theirs. | ||
| Let's try and grab some Joe Rogan folk and that kind of thing. | ||
| Yeah, and he didn't go on Rogan while he was in California, but he did say that he went on a podcast that's bigger than Rogan. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And I can't imagine what that is. | ||
| My favorite murder? | ||
| I have no idea what he's presenting as. | ||
| Being bigger than Rogan, that he would go on... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Comedy Bang Bang? | ||
| They are not bigger than Rogan. | ||
| That would be amazing. | ||
| See him on Marin. | ||
| Actually, I bet he probably... | ||
| He's going to go on Marin in five years. | ||
| It's somehow more offensive how pathetic... | ||
| It is. | ||
| You know, like, it's not, you know, it's racist, and it's terrible, and it's awful. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But because it's so desperately... | ||
| It's just such bullshit that it's pathetic. | ||
| Yeah, it makes you feel really sad. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Less angry, although I am like, you know, I don't like to see this kind of thing, this kind of clunky racism. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| This lack of craft and even... | ||
| Some kind of satire that's being presented. | ||
| I think that's awful, but yeah, it is. | ||
| The overwhelming feeling that I have is that this is a bummer. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| This pathetic douche. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| That's how I would feel in a perfect world. | ||
| That's the last living racist feeling, where you're like... | ||
| Really, dude? | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Some weird Twilight Zone episode where the racist is alone on a planet. | ||
| There's no one else to hate. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That probably is an episode of one of those dystopian shows. | ||
| There was time to be racist now! | ||
| There was time! | ||
| So, Alex gets into talking about immigrants, and what do you know? | ||
| He's equally off base and bad. | ||
| There's 4,000 plus Americans get shot and killed a year by illegal aliens. | ||
| A large portion of that is illegal aliens. | ||
| But oh, that's not a problem. | ||
| Hell, and the illegal aliens shot the poor woman in San Francisco in the back. | ||
| The jury found him not guilty. | ||
| But he'd been found guilty of a gun crime. | ||
| So he was sent to prison for that and the appellate court said no, let him go. | ||
| Even though he'd been deported five times and committed a bunch of other crimes. | ||
| They can't even put a guy in jail for shooting a woman in cold blood in the back when he's a legal alien. | ||
| That's a virtue signal. | ||
| But what I'm getting at here is that they're coming for the guns. | ||
| They're coming for the guns. | ||
| That is exactly what he was getting at. | ||
| So, first of all, there's literally no way for Alex to have the information that he's citing. | ||
| The U.S. doesn't track crime statistics on that axis, that of immigration status. | ||
| It's also literally against the law for them to do any of those studies. | ||
| So the only thing he could be basing this on is like super unreliable sources. | ||
| He's most likely getting this information from a speech that Trump gave earlier this year where he claimed that in the past two years, ICE had arrested undocumented persons whose criminal records included 4,000 violent killings. | ||
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Quote, violent killings. | |
| Yeah, he's trustworthy. | ||
| Obviously, the problem with this is that Alex is claiming this as a statistic of crimes per year by a certain population, when in reality, even if Trump's words were correct, he's just saying that people taken in by ICE in a span of two years had committed that many crimes total. | ||
| It could be over a span of 30 years. | ||
| You have no fucking idea. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Another similar Trump made last year was that, quote, at least 63,000 Americans had been killed by immigrants since 9-11. | |
| But when PolitiFact looked into that claim, they found that he'd most likely gotten this from a blog written by noted cool guy about races, Steve King, who in turn seems to have That's... | ||
| Yeah, that's on brand. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The larger problem is that consistent studies have shown that immigrant populations, regardless of documentation status, are less likely to commit crimes than native-born populations. | ||
| Alex knows that, so he has to pull out the only case he can even remember, that of Katie Steinle. | ||
| Although he can't remember her name. | ||
| Which we covered in the past. | ||
| He can't even remember her name. | ||
| Just that lady in San Francisco. | ||
| Fucking hate him. | ||
| Yeah, like you said, we went over this in the past, and it's not worth diving into that deeply again. | ||
| But to remind everyone, that was a case where an undocumented immigrant accidentally fired a gun, and the bullet ricocheted off the ground, ultimately hitting Steinle. | ||
| He didn't murder her in cold blood. | ||
| And though what happened is absolutely a tragedy, to paint it as a murder is literally only useful to escalate demonization. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| That's Nazi propaganda is what it is. | ||
| More or less. | ||
| The man who accidentally fired that gun was a man named Jose Inez Garcia Zarate, and he was acquitted in his trial because it was clear it was an accident. | ||
| He was, however, charged with being a felon in possession of a gun. | ||
| This is a charge that was appealed, and the decision came down on that recently that that was overturned. | ||
| The reason that conviction of a gun charge was overturned was because his attorney successfully argued that he didn't know that the thing he was picking up was a gun. | ||
| He found a gun wrapped in a rag, picked it up, and it fired, and he immediately dropped it. | ||
| He wasn't knowingly in possession of the gun, and the appeals court found that the prior trial's judge didn't give the jury instruction on the legal standards for dealing with what's known as momentary possession. | ||
| So this is the reality that Alex is yelling about, but in order to make the argument he wants to make... | ||
| Which is bad. | ||
| He has to turn to an appeal to emotion, where an immigrant killed this precious white lady in cold blood, when that's not at all the reality. | ||
| What Alex is doing is lying about this case, and also, quite frankly, that's virtue signaling. | ||
| Yeah, did I... | ||
| But it's virtue signaling to racism. | ||
| Did I forget that? | ||
| Xenophobia. | ||
| I always thought that the gun was his, but it wasn't even that? | ||
| That was... | ||
| More new information that they established in the second trial. | ||
| I think it was part of the first trial, but it wasn't something I ran into until reading up on the appeal. | ||
| Oh my god, that's a fucking tragedy for everyone involved! | ||
| How could it... | ||
| Oh my god, that fucking... | ||
| Oh, that sucks! | ||
| Right. | ||
| That sucks so hard! | ||
| And any previous felonies he may have had, or how many times he entered the country illegally... | ||
| That doesn't mean that he committed that as a murder. | ||
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| It doesn't have any bearing on the event that actually happened. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Yeah, it's very sad. | ||
| That's fucked everybody involved up for no good reason other than that there are an infinite number of guns in America. | ||
| It's very tragic. | ||
| So, Alex did go to L.A. or California. | ||
| Probably L.A. I don't know. | ||
| He just says California. | ||
| But, like I said... | ||
| I thought he was going on Rogan, and I was wrong about that. | ||
| But my reason that I thought he was going on Rogan is like, Alex wouldn't go to LA unless there's a big... | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Or someone else's audience he can sort of vulture in on. | ||
| And I was right about that. | ||
| Like I said, he has some unknown podcast that he went on that's bigger than Rogan. | ||
| We'll find out what that is whenever that happens. | ||
| Pod Save America. | ||
| Could be! | ||
| They're really trying to be centrist as fuck these days. | ||
| They're really trying to reach across the aisle. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We need to work together with bigots and racists who are trying to kill us all. | ||
| But it wouldn't be an Alex Jones trip if... | ||
| It didn't have a story about something that happened to him on the plane. | ||
| So these mobs are out of control. | ||
| I had a leftist on the airplane grab me in my seat and go, I love you so much. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| And my security guy starts pushing him away. | ||
| We get off the plane. | ||
| The guy comes over. | ||
| He smelled real bad, looked mentally ill like Beto. | ||
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He goes, I know you do it all for money, but I wanted to hurt you, but instead I hugged you. | |
| And I said, okay. | ||
| And I said, get away from me. | ||
| These are mental patients. | ||
| What do you want to bet that was one of Alex's fans? | ||
| Like, if that happened... | ||
| That sounds like an encounter that could have been someone who actually did like him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then when Alex snubbed him, he's like, I know you do it for the money. | ||
| That could easily be a jilted fan. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| There's no reason to think this is a leftist. | ||
| Also, this didn't happen. | ||
| Oh, and he's flying with a security detail? | ||
| Yeah, from Blackwater. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| He says he doesn't go anywhere without his security now, which kind of makes it... | ||
| Because he's a fucking super paranoid dude. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's right. | ||
| He's cultivated a fan base of unhinged... | ||
| I mean, I suppose it's smart to preemptively assume that they're going to turn on him. | ||
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Well, I mean... | |
| To just be like, well, these people are crazy, and I am very visible, so they're probably going to come after me sooner or later. | ||
| I think if you create an environment and a group that is sort of, I would say, defined by... | ||
| Just accepting things with lack of evidence, being incredibly paranoid, just full of suspicion about literally everything. | ||
| You will eventually run afoul of that crowd. | ||
| I think that was the only lesson, really, that the French Revolution taught us. | ||
| The terror is coming. | ||
| But it's why Alex needs to do things like go to LA to be on podcasts. | ||
| Because now that he doesn't have his social media, doesn't have the YouTube algorithms to exploit, he has no intake. | ||
| It's like what we've talked about all the time. | ||
| This is why his business model is falling apart. | ||
| Eventually the people that get indoctrinated into what he does become suspicious of him and go away to harder things. | ||
| That flow hasn't changed, but the inflow has. | ||
| That's why it's falling apart. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's why deplatforming for someone like Alex is, like... | ||
| Valuable. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Effective. | ||
| Well, and someone like Milo, he's certainly seen a much sharper fall, but that's because he had less groundwork, less of a foundation to build upon. | ||
| Alex has, you know, at least a business here that takes a while for it to, like... | ||
| All the gears to completely stop working, but we're seeing that. | ||
| Milo didn't actually create anything, and he definitely didn't have a 20-some-odd-year background in it. | ||
| And that's what you're seeing. | ||
| And, yeah, I mean, obviously Alex is aware of that. | ||
| I mean, if he's ever read an email from any of his listeners, or... | ||
| Actually experience any time he's run into listeners in the public. | ||
| Like, he knows. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| Like, they're gonna... | ||
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| They're not... | ||
| The wave comes back. | ||
| You know, there's undertow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Alex, at this point, brings in Eddie and Sam. | ||
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| They're on for the better part of two hours of the show. | ||
| And they're coming back on Friday's episode. | ||
| What are they, vacationing in Austin? | ||
| They did a show, I think it's either Friday or Thursday night, I can't remember. | ||
| But they're there to do a show, because they do a podcast together, and then I guess they do a live stand-up something. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| I think this is very interesting. | ||
| We've experienced Eddie Bravo and Alex as on Joe Rogan's show. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And we've seen Alex need Eddie to be there to be like sort of a pressure release valve. | ||
| If something's going too bad for Alex, he can just yell at Eddie about Flat Earth and then everything is sort of... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's almost like a reset button. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Eddie Bravo is very easy to turn on and off again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I was interested to see how this would work on Alex's show. | ||
| Because I've heard Alex and Eddie... | ||
| On InfoWars, just one-on-one. | ||
| But adding this third sort of unknown variable of Sam Tripoli, it's like, how's this going to go? | ||
| We'll find out. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, we've got Eddie Bravo and Sam Tripoli in studio with us for the next two hours, and Paul Joseph Watson takes over. | ||
| I guess that was an unnecessary clip. | ||
| I could have just told you that the two of them were on, which I did, and then I played that clip. | ||
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| You do always have to back up everything you say, though. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| You do need to provide evidence for everything. | ||
| So, in this next clip, they talk about how racism is kind of fun sometimes. | ||
| It's like we got away from what racism is. | ||
| It's like, you're horrible people. | ||
| I mean, Trump is funny when he's doing that. | ||
| And I make fun of white people, rednecks and stuff. | ||
| And I did that whole Chinese dragon going, American scum. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| Don't double down. | ||
| Don't double down. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Why don't people get that I am allowed to oppress people with no repercussions? | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It's fun! | ||
| So he talks a bit about Trudeau and his blackface situation. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Most of it is just comparing it to Tropic Thunder. | ||
| And like, it's fun in Tropic Thunder. | ||
| It's not fun for you, Trudeau. | ||
| Okay, but that's what satire is. | ||
| Now we have an actual satire. | ||
| These guys, their conversation is a lot of yelling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is not coherent in most senses. | ||
| Sam Tripoli really wants to talk about Jeffrey Epstein and also what Alex thinks about Julian Assange. | ||
| And Alex keeps saying, we're going to get to it next segment. | ||
| He kicks the can all the way down the road to the end of the show where he says that Julian Assange should be freed and that Jeffrey Epstein was involved in trying to blackmail scientists. | ||
| And he knows this from high-level intelligence sources. | ||
| He's talking about the MIT situation. | ||
| Gotcha, gotcha. | ||
| It's more important that they get into the bigger issues while they yell. | ||
| And one of them is that the globalists, they want transhumanism, right? | ||
| And Sam Tripoli knows why. | ||
| Well, you know what it is, man? | ||
| They want transhumanism because they know when they die and they go to the Archons, they're going to have to go to some lesser form and come back as like a one-eyed woodchuck because they're such evil people and they'll never go to a higher level and hang out with the gods. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| They're scumbags. | ||
| They're lizards. | ||
| They have no consciousness. | ||
| And this is as high as they get. | ||
| They're feeding on us. | ||
| And they don't want to die. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| They admit that. | ||
| So they all believe in reincarnation. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| Is that part of Alex's cosmology and his weird version of Christianity? | ||
| It is today. | ||
| There is, you know, we are going to heaven, but you gotta break the 10,000 year wheel first. | ||
| Like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| And the Archons will be the deciders of if you come back as a woodchuck. | ||
| Who's even thrown around Archon anymore? | ||
| Weirdos. | ||
| That's fucking crazy! | ||
| Yeah, it's kind of weird. | ||
| But here, we run into, like, an essential problem that I have that I really don't like about episodes like this of Alex's show, and that is that Sam Tripoli is a comic. | ||
| So, like, it's really difficult to disambiguate, like, what is trying to be funny and what is actually, like, a position. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, because when he's yelling about this, like, you can obviously see, like, they don't want to come back as a one-eyed woodchuck. | ||
| That was Sam Tripoli. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| That's a line. | ||
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| That's, like, that's him trying to get a little bit of a laugh. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You can see the craft of being funny in there. | ||
| But at the same time, it's in the middle of expressing an idea that I think he probably believes. | ||
| These people want to create robots they can put their brain in so they never have to die and face the Archons. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So it's like, where is the line between what you actually believe and what's a joke? | ||
| And it's always hard to figure out. | ||
| So I try to err on the side of like, eh, he's probably fucking around. | ||
| Right. | ||
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If there's someone who... | |
| Fucks around for a living. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But that becomes very difficult when you're on a show with Alex fucking Jones. | ||
| Yeah, that is trouble. | ||
| The most humorless person in the world. | ||
| I don't know how you would even try and get humor into the show. | ||
| I mean, if you're a professional comedian, obviously the easiest way is to make poop jokes. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If you make poop jokes, you have destroyed. | ||
| And, you know, when you read the room, you say, poop jokes are going to work here. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But if you're an actual comic trying to be actually funny. | ||
| Good fucking luck. | ||
| God, everything sails over his head, right? | ||
| Yeah, for the most part. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then he just says like, oh yeah, it's in a white paper. | ||
| You make a joke, but it's actually true. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Yeah, now I get it. | ||
| So Sam Tripoli wants to fight John Bolton. | ||
| That's big news. | ||
| Breaking here on Knowledge Fight. | ||
| Sam Tripoli looking to fight an old man. | ||
| Yeah, I'm fine with that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't think I've ever been more fine with somebody just beating up an old man. | ||
| After that revelation comes out, Alex reveals some information of his own about John Bolton. | ||
| I want to fight John Bolton for charity. | ||
| I say it right here. | ||
| John Bolton, me, you, in the octagon, fight. | ||
| All money goes to charity. | ||
| Let me tell you, that's a perv stash. | ||
| Yeah, that is. | ||
| By the way, out of fact, he's into some perv stuff, too. | ||
| Yeah, that's definitely some 1985 hardcore gay porn stash. | ||
| He's a leather daddy. | ||
| I'd like to remind you that this is a family show. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| I'd also like to remind you that Alex thinks he's a libertarian. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| He's into some perv stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which I don't judge. | ||
| I'm just saying he's going to hell and the Archons aren't going to let him come back as anything other than a one-eyed woodchuck that's into fucking auto-erotic investigation. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Family show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'd also like to remind you that this is still a family show as this next clip begins. | ||
| Yeah, Jared Kushner likes it weird, too. | ||
| He looks like he likes to have sex with a knife to his throat. | ||
| Anybody else? | ||
| He does look like that. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I ran into a little bit of an issue, and that is that verbally and vocally, Sam Tripoli sounds almost identical to Owen Benjamin. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Like, the two of them sound very similar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Man, I don't know. | ||
| Why are we kink-shaming? | ||
| Why are we kink-shaming? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There are so many reasons to hate Kushner. | ||
| He's a fucking slumlord, exploitative, racist bullshitter who's married to the worst woman in the world, whose dad is the worst man in the world, and they're going to kink-shame him? | ||
| That's what they got? | ||
| Fuck off! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, but again, that's like making a joke. | ||
| That's making the joke. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| I mean, I guess he's trying, but he sucks at it if that's the joke. | ||
| I mean, that just sucks. | ||
| That just sucks. | ||
| Well, I'm not saying he's a good comic. | ||
| I'm saying that the intention of a joke is there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's what makes it so difficult. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In fact, you know what? | ||
| I'll be honest with you. | ||
| Sam Tripoli's voice and delivery is so similar to Owen Benjamin. | ||
| And he has some things. | ||
| That, you know, sound similar to some of the things that Owen Benjamin says that are not good. | ||
| That I actually had to go check. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you got a clip of Owen Benjamin saying some racist shit too? | ||
| No, I had to go find a video of this episode because I was like, I'm not positive this isn't Owen Benjamin pretending to be so pretty. | ||
| But then I remember that Owen Benjamin used to do the fourth hour on Infowars. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Like, Alex would know who Owen Benjamin is. | ||
| He'd remember. | ||
| I would assume so. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Although, I imagine that if Owen Benjamin were going to imitate Sam Tripoli, it would be with a horrible Chinese accent, right? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| They sound very similar, and then they say shit like this, which is like, again, I understand he's a comedian, but there's a weird blurring of the lines of like, what do you think? | ||
| What are you joking about? | ||
| We all know that Hitler was a gay Jew shill. | ||
| He used to do, he was Jewish, he was Rothschild, and he had a crystal meth problem, which means you're going to get weird and try to stuff stuff into your prison wallet, okay? | ||
| And it just, he was obviously controlled opposition, so it's true. | ||
| I mean, it's true. | ||
| The guy was in the weird stuff. | ||
| Well, he was set up by British intelligence, and they had a peace treaty. | ||
| No, dude, he was a Rothschild. | ||
| Ever the gate, the king of England? | ||
| He was the king of the EU. | ||
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Is that, I mean, is that proven? | |
| No, that's actually true. | ||
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That he's a Rothschild? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, his father was Olus, and his grandmother was the maiden. | ||
| The main Rothschild house. | ||
| So, I just don't under, I don't know what, at what point are you, like, goofing around and be like, Hitler was a gay Jewish show. | ||
| And when you continue the point and keep trying to argue it, you're not joking anymore. | ||
| You're making an argument. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| See, now I think he's genuinely just really committing to the bit. | ||
| It's hard for me to tell. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There's no possible way that he could believe that. | ||
| It's just not... | ||
| He does a podcast with Eddie Bravo. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He can believe anything. | ||
| And he's making Eddie seem fucking rational. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's why it's gotta be him being like, if I'm gonna go on Infowars, I am going to out Conspiracy Theory Alex. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's the only thing that makes sense to me now. | ||
| It really makes me wish that I had unlimited time and I could really... | ||
| Just listen to hundreds of hours of Sam Tripoli to know if he's fucking with Alex or not. | ||
| Keep it on hand if SNL ever hires him. | ||
| My hunch is that he's not. | ||
| I don't think that this is fucking with Alex. | ||
| I don't think it's making a grand joke out of being on Infowars. | ||
| But at the same time, I think he's trying to be funny in his own presentation, which makes things pretty difficult. | ||
| I can say that he's just wrong about a lot of stuff like this. | ||
| We crushed that segment, dog. | ||
| We crushed the segment. | ||
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You have done well, Lord Vader. | |
| I'll be back. | ||
| UGH! | ||
| Yeah, they crushed that segment. | ||
| This is a train wreck. | ||
| It's pretty bad. | ||
| It's really, all things being equal, it's not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| It made it so, like... | ||
| I was thinking, wow, Eddie Bravo and Sam Tripoli are going to be in studio two days in a row. | ||
| This is going to be insanity. | ||
| By the time I was halfway through this, I was like... | ||
| I'm definitely not listening to Friday. | ||
| This is enough of this. | ||
| It's surprising how out there it can be while at the same time being incredibly boring and stupid. | ||
| Oh yeah? | ||
| You're bored? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Would you rather Alex cover kooky crap like UFOs? | ||
| I would. | ||
| Those turned out to be real. | ||
| Unfortunately, Alex Jones does not cover kooky crap like UFOs. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| I'll cover all the kooky stuff and all the guys that saw UFOs, the government bases, and all that made-up crap. | ||
| It's interdimensional. | ||
| It's satanic like the Bible says. | ||
| And they're literally programming humans to build and change the earth into something for them. | ||
| And then I guess they physically show up after that. | ||
| But they went to collaborators, made a deal, and they go, you're going to merge with machines. | ||
| You've got to kill everybody. | ||
| But we'll let a few of you work with us. | ||
| If you kill yourselves, you'll become gods. | ||
| Don't believe these devils! | ||
| So Alex doesn't believe kooky crap like UFOs, but what he does believe is that there's interdimensional demons who have tricked a bunch of humans into being collaborators with them, wherein they destroy the environment in some such way that makes it so the demons can physically materialize and then everybody dies or something like that. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because it's like the Bible. | ||
| So that's not kooky. | ||
| That's not kooky crap. | ||
| No, that's rational. | ||
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That's grounded? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Look, Occam's razor says that all of those things are the only possible answer, honestly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sherlock said famously that once you eliminate the impossible, all that's left, no matter how improbable... | ||
| Is done by the fucking globalists. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| And interventional demons. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So cool. | ||
| Yeah, that's what Moriarty was. | ||
| I do enjoy that Alex has such a skew towards his own ideas that he impugns ufology in order to be like, that's crazy! | ||
| This is not! | ||
| It is always funny to find... | ||
| But, you know, it's not like that's a line, though. | ||
| It's a strategy, you know? | ||
| Well, I mean, you see the same thing in Project Camelot with Carrie being like, you think the Raptors are bad? | ||
| I beg your pardon. | ||
| I know Mark Richards. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The raptors are good. | ||
| And I'll hear no other... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And in these worlds, that happens a lot. | ||
| Yeah, you have to own your space. | ||
| And if you don't own your space, somebody's going to kick you out of it. | ||
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| It's like drug dealing. | ||
| You've got your corner. | ||
| When everything is kind of make-believe... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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You have to be aggressive about it. | |
| So, when I was sort of wrestling with whether or not I believe Sam Tripoli is fucking around... | ||
| This next clip really kind of helped put it in focus for me where I'm leaning towards he's not. | ||
| And I'll let you decide what you think and the audience certainly can feel whatever they like. | ||
| But I think this indicates on some level that he's really into this stuff and that he believes at least a good part of it. | ||
| Google creates the social score, right? | ||
| And China's so scared of the head of Google turning on them that they basically... | ||
| Poison him and his kids. | ||
| And they're like, either you play ball or else you won't have the poison. | ||
| And he's like, I ain't playing ball. | ||
| One of his daughters passes away. | ||
| And he has to go to, like, North Korea to get a remedy. | ||
| That's all real, dude. | ||
| I've heard the Chinese mafia is, like, killing everybody right now in L.A. It's crazy, dude. | ||
| Oh, dude, really? | ||
| They're in L.A.? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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| What he's talking about there, what Sam is talking about, there's a little kernel of truth to it. | ||
| And that is that Eric Schmidt did take his daughter Sophie along when he went to North Korea to visit there. | ||
| The rest of this is conspiracy theory bullshit that's based on an anonymous source who talked to a group called Anonymous Patriots, claiming to be a former lover of Eric Schmidt's. | ||
| All of this completely unsubstantiated shit comes from a post on a blog that could have been written by anyone. | ||
| Down to the claims that the trip to North Korea was about getting an antidote to the poison that China had given Schmidt's daughter. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Anonymous Patriots is a group that appears to either be a part of or the same thing as a group called American Intelligence Media, which as best as I can tell is a group of retirees who talk into their webcams about Trump a bunch. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So they are one of the three of their words in their name. | ||
| You pick which one. | ||
| Interestingly, they've also interviewed Leo Zagami about the evils of the Vatican. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Because he'll go anywhere. | ||
| What? | ||
| Did they not know he did 9-11? | ||
| They haven't heard yet. | ||
| I assume they would hate him. | ||
| They're also really big into the 432 hertz vibration conspiracy, which I assure you will be a Wacky Wednesday episode down the road. | ||
| Wait, is that like the poop frequency? | ||
| No, there's a conspiracy that the evil globalists fill in whatever. | ||
| group name you want. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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They took over the music industry and changed the vibration of music in order to put bad vibes into the public. | |
| Oh. | ||
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And that all of these artists that die young are people who tried to go with the 432 hertz. | |
| Right. | ||
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Because they were trying to bring positivity back into music. | |
| Okay. | ||
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And then the globalists took them out. | |
| All right. | ||
| It has to do with those, like, sort of debunked studies about, like, the water crystals and stuff. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| Yeah, it's a mess. | ||
| All right. | ||
| There is a guy who showed up on Project Camelot and on Infowars who is super into those conspiracies. | ||
| And I promise we'll cover it down the road. | ||
| It's complete nonsense. | ||
| But these people are super into it. | ||
| They post a bunch of videos of 432 Hertz. | ||
| I spent 10 years programming hearing aids. | ||
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432 hertz is not any more special than any other of the frequencies. | |
| See, man, you drank the Kool-Aid. | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I looked into these people's website, and as best I can tell, it's just a group of old people who are really into the political power of memes and not so much into demonstrating their points. | ||
| The big difference between them and Alex seems to be that Alex sells colloidal silver, whereas American intelligence media just gives out a recipe for it. | ||
| They just tell you how to make your own. | ||
| Oh, well, I mean, you're going to need a little bit of Ebola blood. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then you put it in together with colloids. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then you get some silver and you're good to go. | ||
| Oh, and also, American intelligence media were the people who originally posted the image of the judge in Roger Stone's case with crosshairs on her, which Roger retweeted, and that got him that gag order. | ||
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| So they're in the mix. | ||
| They're good people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what you're telling me. | ||
| So that's where all these claims originate. | ||
| And the argument basically goes that China has poisoned the Schmidt family, and now they have to do their bidding, or else China will stop giving them the antidote. | ||
| I'm not an expert on these matters, but I'm not actually sure there are real poisons that work that way outside of movies. | ||
| Given the lack of any specifics in this person's anonymous post, I find it unconvincing and impossible to look into, so I don't care. | ||
| No, I read a book called Red Seas and Red Skies. | ||
| It was in the Gentleman Bastards series, and that was heavily involved. | ||
| Are there poisons that they just give you, and then if you don't keep taking the antidote, you die? | ||
| That seems weird from a biological standpoint. | ||
| I mean, it sounds like... | ||
| It goes against most of what we know about stuff. | ||
| I'm not a biologist. | ||
| I could be wrong, but that seems like... | ||
| What's the name of that? | ||
| Iocane powder? | ||
| One thing that's a red flag about the way the story seems to be being told is also just the chronology. | ||
| As expressed by Sam in that last clip, the theorists try to tie the death of Eric Schmidt's other daughter in to strengthen their claims. | ||
| The implication is that Schmidt refused to play ball with the Chinese, so they killed his other daughter. | ||
| And in desperation, he took his surviving daughter to North Korea to get the antidote to save her life. | ||
| The problem is that that trip to North Korea took place in 2013, and his other daughter passed away in 2017. | ||
| So that does confuse things a little bit from a chronology standpoint. | ||
| It doesn't matter, though. | ||
| Theories like this are based on nothing, and they're very easy to tweak when you need to accommodate new information. | ||
| So they could just be like, well, he went in 2013, but he secretly went again, or whatever. | ||
| Sure, fine, yeah, get it in there. | ||
| Over the course of my time doing this podcast, and even before that in recreational times, I've read a whole lot of dumb blogs that purport to be disseminating real information. | ||
| This is one of them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And this is the sort of place people get this quote-unquote deep information from. | ||
| This is not something you would know about unless you looked into these worlds, unless you're pretty involved in dumb conspiracy shit. | ||
| That implies to me that Sam Tripoli is probably somebody who reads stupid shit a lot and believes it. | ||
| Has to be. | ||
| Because you wouldn't know this one. | ||
| Alex doesn't even talk about that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Oh, that is a good point. | ||
| This is a revealing conspiracy theory. | ||
| Because I thought it was all just made-up nonsense on a riff. | ||
| He was just rapping and keeping the riff going. | ||
| But if this is an actual, specific conspiracy theory, then yeah, he totally has to believe that. | ||
| Otherwise, what the fuck are you doing? | ||
| The only other possibility, I guess, if you want to keep up the idea that he's fucking around, is that it's like... | ||
| LARP or whatever. | ||
| He's getting real deep. | ||
| It's method acting. | ||
| He goes into the stupid conspiracy sites and finds things in order to be like, this will help my character. | ||
| And I find that to be unlikely. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| Yeah, I agree with you though. | ||
| If it was just something that I couldn't trace back to some kind of obscure source, then I would probably agree with you that it's just riffing. | ||
| But this is absolutely a conspiracy that exists subterraneanly in this world. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, that's why it was so confusing at first, because I could totally see me, like, if I start on something like that, you know, it's like with the closing little dumb bit about the stick drive and how to get our podcast. | ||
| Like, that's just rapping and riffing, and so I could wind up anywhere with that. | ||
| I have no idea where I'm going to go. | ||
| Probably not making claims that the Chinese government tried to murder Eric Schmidt's family in order... | ||
| Wait until we end this episode! | ||
| I'm not looking forward to that. | ||
| So, Alex insists on playing the video of him pretending to be Xi for Eddie and Sam. | ||
| No! | ||
| He really wants to impress them. | ||
| And Eddie's response is crazy. | ||
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And get rid of Trump and Alex Jones. | |
| You are not going to beat us. | ||
| Dude, that was amazing. | ||
| You can do that every show. | ||
| Man, you should do voiceovers, bro. | ||
| I think you'd be in the next Shrek. | ||
| I've got pretty big voiceovers. | ||
| You do. | ||
| You do. | ||
| But as soon as I... | ||
| When I was bashing Obama and stuff, then they stopped giving me the work. | ||
| But I've done pretty big voiceovers. | ||
| I know, man. | ||
| You're my favorite voiceover actor. | ||
| No, you guys are awesome, but seriously, enough about me. | ||
| I have no evidence that Alex has done any voiceovers. | ||
| That's because every time you've heard, he's ramped up his Chinese accent. | ||
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Every time you've heard a Chinese accent on the radio, that was him. | |
| I guess he could say that his own documentaries, when he does the narration, is him doing voiceovers. | ||
| But I don't know how criticizing Obama could take that away. | ||
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Even he knew, I can't hire me anymore for this. | |
| Oh no, this is too hot. | ||
| I got too much heat on me. | ||
| I don't see any reality behind that claim. | ||
| I mean, I suppose he could say that the rotoscope of... | ||
| Waking life. | ||
| That rotoscope could be considered... | ||
| Okay, Richard Linklater didn't want to work with him anymore or something. | ||
| That very well might be true. | ||
| But that probably didn't have to do with Obama. | ||
| No, Alex, you're just a dick. | ||
| Yeah, and what are you going to be in boyhood? | ||
| God. | ||
| God, that would have been so good. | ||
| What is he going to be? | ||
| Is he going to be like Celine's other man in the next Before Sunrise? | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think Linklater has a place for you outside of crazy guy in rotoscoped movies. | ||
| Meet me here at midnight and Alex Jones will yell at you for an hour. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That could be what he's talking about. | ||
| He also was on, like, Jesse Ventura's show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I guess that other one, Decoded, that Meltzer show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was on a couple... | ||
| I think he was just on the Bohemian Grove episode, though. | ||
| Because they tried to sneak into Bohemian Grove. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And they're like, we gotta get Alex to come along. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| And they made a big production out of it. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| I just don't know what he's talking about. | ||
| So I'm gonna... | ||
| If I were Polita Flat. | ||
| PolitiFact. | ||
| I would rate this claim dubious. | ||
| Is that how they... | ||
| I don't think they rate claims dubious. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| But I can't prove that it's not true. | ||
| Like, what if Alex did some local commercials? | ||
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Right. | |
| I mean, I guess you could call those pretty big. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I'd be impressed. | ||
| I had a voiceover agent for a little while. | ||
| I got nothing. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I did a ton of auditions for stuff. | ||
| That industry is fucked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Crazy stuff. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Before I get into my real bitter rant about... | ||
| About voiceover. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And your failings therein. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's move right along, because Alex has big news. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| So, if you'll recall, in the past, Alex has said that, you know, Trump's gotta get Greenland. | ||
| We gotta get it. | ||
| We need to get it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Alex has decided to move on from that. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| Though he was sincere. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's time to move on. | ||
| Did you hear about the White House announcement? | ||
|
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What? | |
| It's on Infowars.com on the White House petitions. | ||
| I'm not going to talk about it until we come back, but it's big. | ||
| They have announced that there is a petition in the White House, the president looking at it, to announce a 51st state. | ||
| Guess what the 51st state is? | ||
| We're not going to tell people yet. | ||
| The 51st state, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| This is not a joke. | ||
| This is a real proposal. | ||
| You thought Trump wanted Greenland? | ||
| Oh, the Americans. | ||
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See, we got to think big here. | |
| The moon. | ||
| How did you guess it? | ||
|
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I saw one of your notes here. | |
| American spies. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| What? | ||
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American spies. | |
| Really? | ||
| Is that real? | ||
| It's real. | ||
| Go click on the link. | ||
| Show them the potential. | ||
| Whose idea is this? | ||
| Mine. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's Alex's idea. | ||
| Annexing the moon. | ||
| I do love how Eddie ruined the reveal there, though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Way to fucking run the bit, Eddie. | ||
| I honestly think Eddie comes off the best. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like it so far. | ||
| He seems like someone who's just like, alright, whatever. | ||
| It really frustrates me that that really, that high-pitched really, was not where I was coming from, which is, you're still doing the Chinese thing? | ||
| That's pretty nuts. | ||
| See, now that's why I would say really. | ||
| And then Alex... | ||
| And his was... | ||
| You're gonna annex the moon? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Alex has presented it as if, like, this is a serious proposal anyone's making and that Trump is considering this. | ||
| It's just Alex doing something for attention again. | ||
| I just did a change.org petition. | ||
| That's what I fucking hate about listening to Alex's show in the present day. | ||
| Like, none of this means anything. | ||
| When I hear Alex say something like, I started a petition to make the moon the 51st state, it's something that's hard to ignore because it's stupid, but at the same time, it's painfully obvious that this is a desperate cry for attention. | ||
| You can almost hear Alex off-air talking to Rob Dew, trying to convince him of the PR blitz that's going to come from Media Matters and the Huffington Post making fun of Alex's petition to annex the moon. | ||
| You can almost see the intention behind this, and it's all about trying to use other media outlets to give him free press that he doesn't have access to himself. | ||
| That's all that's going on here, because honestly, annexing the moon isn't a serious suggestion to make, even for Alex. | ||
| He knows damn well that that would be a very serious breach of international law, and probably grounds for war. | ||
| All countries that are capable of space travel have signed the 1967 Outer Space Treaty that explicitly makes space the property of everyone and forbids countries from laying claim to things in outer space. | ||
| Annexing the moon would absolutely break that treaty, which would probably piss off literally every other country on the planet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| While at the same time, they would breathe a long sigh of, fuck off. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It would be a weird situation where it's like, we have to go to war over this dumb bullshit. | ||
| Fuck you, Trump. | ||
| I don't want to do this. | ||
| You know who generally makes claims on outer space things? | ||
| Scam artists. | ||
| There's a pretty rich tradition of con men claiming that they own parts of space in order to sell them to idiots. | ||
| In that kind of way, Alex is spiritually continuing their legacy, which makes total sense, because that's all he's up to. | ||
| It just makes me sad. | ||
| You see this racist trolling with the G video, and you're like, oh, you're trying to get people to respond to this in order to get your name in the media. | ||
| Starting a change.org petition to annex the moon and pretending Trump is taking it seriously in order to get press media. | ||
| Oh. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Sad. | ||
| It is. | ||
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It is. | |
| It's a bummer. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| I think what's even more annoying is that were he to get that media attention, he would get more people, like, supporting him. | ||
| Just, just... | ||
| By being mentioned as saying something stupid and then debunking it, people will instinctively circle the wagons and be like, I don't care about Alex Jones whatsoever until you sent this message, but now I know you're lying and I love Alex. | ||
| Fake news. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I think with the moon one, too, even more so than the G video. | ||
| Because that goes into what made him attractive to people in the first place, which was craziness. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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From the people covering the G video. | |
| Right. | ||
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But you'll get more people who are, like, just into paranormal space shit. | |
| I think that's probably, like, what he needs to do. | ||
| Like, if he's smart, he would veer hard back into that stuff. | ||
| But he's not smart. | ||
| And it's even more lame because it's not like he came up with the idea whole cloth. | ||
| Like, they were having hearings on D.C. becoming a state. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, so it's like, all he has to do is be like, oh, look, they're doing that, so guess what? | ||
| Moon's a state now, too. | ||
| And he's already done the Greenland. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That one's played out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they do talk a little bit about Shane Gillis, the guy who got fired from SNL. | ||
| Great, that's what I want to do. | ||
| Well, but we're not going to talk about that much. | ||
| That's just sort of a setup for what gets Sam into this mindset of, like, complaining about the idea that you can't do anything anymore. | ||
| All these moralists are going to come down on you if you... | ||
| And so... | ||
| I think that he makes a really fallacious argument here. | ||
| I do a festival that the Legion of Skanks people do. | ||
| They got mad at a show on Legion of Skanks. | ||
| Said some crazy stuff. | ||
| It's Legion of Skanks! | ||
| Like, why are you bringing... | ||
| You can't even go to your own private thing and do something. | ||
| Yeah, it's ridiculous. | ||
| It's not for you. | ||
| Like, I hate The View. | ||
| The View is the worst show ever. | ||
| But they can do that. | ||
| It's not for me. | ||
| So I should get them off the air? | ||
| No, you just don't watch what you don't like. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| It's like, let it go! | ||
| Let people do their own thing! | ||
| And I tell you, The View is the stupidest show on the planet. | ||
| Alex spent so much time complaining about The View. | ||
| Like, he spent so much time yelling about Joy Behar in the past. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I understand that that might be Sam Tripoli's opinion, but he's on Alex's show where he covers the view a lot. | ||
| Like, don't try to pretend that this is an exclusive behavior of people on the left, let's say. | ||
| Or people who are upset about places that, you know, I guess the complaint about Louis C.K. that he's, that's what he's talking about, the Legion of Skanks Festival. | ||
| So they booked Louis C.K. And the idea that most people had was it creates an unsafe working environment for potentially, like, young women comics that might be uncomfortable being around him. | ||
| That was more the conversation than, like, Louis is going to say something offensive. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| So I get that. | ||
| And I understand wanting to push back on that and be like, ah, you're being censorious and moral policing and stuff. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Don't fucking pretend that you're not a guest on a show that does the exact same thing. | ||
| Just in reverse. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| These people are so stupid. | ||
| And that's a dumb argument. | ||
| That's a dumb argument. | ||
| If you live it, I don't think it's that dumb. | ||
| What? | ||
| If your position is wholly like, everybody leave everybody alone. | ||
| If you do that yourself... | ||
| Then you can say it. | ||
| I don't know if it's smart, but I'm not going to argue with you. | ||
| I'm not going to fight you on it. | ||
| The fact that he's saying it on Alex's show makes it unacceptable. | ||
| Yeah, but if you do that, you're the Unabomber. | ||
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Funny you should say that. | |
| No! | ||
| We're not turning into the guys who talk about the fucking Unabomber, are we? | ||
| We're not. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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However... | |
| Well, I mean, let's get into the... | ||
| Listen, dude. | ||
| I mean, you might be a Kavanaugh guy. | ||
| I think that whole sex thing was all drummed up to, uh... | ||
| Kind of frame it and his sexual exports. | ||
| To change the subjects away from Cabana himself to something fake? | ||
| Yeah, to what? | ||
| Like, oh, the guy wrote the Patriot Act. | ||
| He believes that the president's above the law. | ||
| He's against. | ||
| He doesn't think that the cops need search warrants to come in. | ||
| There's a whole lot of stuff that they didn't want you actually discussing. | ||
| So they brought up this thing, and they had this woman whose father was in charge of finding funding for CIA black ops. | ||
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Yeah, she's part of that whole recruitment center. | |
| She runs a recruitment center. | ||
| At Stanford, where they just shish kabob the Unabomber, and you should read the Unabomber's manifesto and realize the guy nailed everything that's going on. | ||
| Unabomber was right. | ||
| He was in MKUltra. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| How crazy is it that you brought the Unabomber and the next clip was Sam Tripoli yelling about how the Unabomber was right? | ||
| Well, because his argument is the Unabomber's argument. | ||
| It's very simple. | ||
| He's that guy at a party, man. | ||
| Yeah, that's Drew Michaels' bit all over. | ||
| Don't read the Unabomber's manifesto. | ||
| I don't want to be the guy who's like, actually, if you read the manifesto, you don't need to be that guy. | ||
| There's no point. | ||
| I'm not sure that was his bit. | ||
| You took away from it? | ||
| Eh, something along those lines. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, like, alright. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| This is a rambly, yelly dude who we've already seen kind of where some of the claims he'll repeat come from. | ||
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I don't give a fuck what you're saying anymore. | |
| And now you've just completely embodied the guy I don't want to talk to. | ||
| Which is like, just... | ||
| Perfectly crystallized as yelling, the Unabomber was right. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Because if you're saying that, then you probably agree that his conclusions are right, too. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, do you think it was right for him to mail bombs? | ||
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Well, I mean, he was right in a more broad sense. | |
| To what extent was the man right? | ||
| You know, look, you gotta wake people up somehow, and it was the 70s. | ||
| Everybody was Unabombing at the time. | ||
| That's a normal thing to do. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Buh. | ||
| Yeah, if somebody seriously says the Unabomber was right, you can extrapolate all the other shit you don't like about them immediately. | ||
| Yeah, it's kind of a tell. | ||
| Yeah, that's how I want to greet people at parties. | ||
| Like, hey, you think the Unabomber was right? | ||
| Cool, then we can hang out. | ||
| So Alex gets back to the annexing the moon thing. | ||
| And I think in this next clip we kind of figure out what this is all about. | ||
| We are pushing for... | ||
| The 51st state of the United States to not be Greenland, which is a good strategic move. | ||
| We bought Alaska. | ||
| We bought a lot of other areas. | ||
| It makes perfect sense. | ||
| The globalists don't want us doing it. | ||
| They want the U.N. to control the Arctic, the Antarctic. | ||
| They want the U.N. and global government to control these things and not have nation states that people can actually elect and control to some extent to have this. | ||
| Well, document cam shot, please. | ||
| Drumroll. | ||
| Let's think bigger here. | ||
| Let's annex the moon as the 51st state. | ||
| Sign the White House petition. | ||
| Again, I need to be totally clear about this. | ||
| What Alex is doing is making a White House petition. | ||
| I mean, it'll never happen. | ||
| But imagining that it would, he's advocating an international crime. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, he is trying to convince the White House to do something that is... | ||
| It would be an incident. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Well, I watched Aqua Teen Hunger Force, and I know that the Moonanites are dicks, so I would say we don't even want them as a state. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm not positive that in the time I've listened to the show, Alex has advocated for an international crime. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I mean, buying... | ||
| Greenland. | ||
| I don't know if that would be an international crime. | ||
| It would be severely fucked up. | ||
| But through the channels of buying the country, if that were something that were possible, that wouldn't necessarily be completely against international law. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's been a long time since a country has bought a country, but annexing the moon. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Well, and then we'd have to annex a slave state, of course, in order to offset the... | ||
| All right. | ||
| A slave planet. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Well, we are the slave... | ||
| We are the prison planet. | ||
| Well, that's fair enough. | ||
| I don't know what the deal is with this. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know if this is the same as, like, Alex trying to advocate for Trump to commit a different international crime. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it would be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's goofy and it's stupid, but at the same time, he's advocating for a crime. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think... | ||
| I genuinely don't think anybody cares. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| But Alex wants them to care because it's about the publicity. | ||
| LinkedIn at InfoWars.com. | ||
| I'm not joking. | ||
| We walked on the moon. | ||
| Eddie's going to talk about it tomorrow. | ||
| How he believes that. | ||
| I'm joking. | ||
| First, so we can claim it. | ||
| And plus, we're in America. | ||
| Better than the UN, the Chai Combs, or all these other folks. | ||
| So sign the petition. | ||
| None of those other countries are going to claim the moon. | ||
| He's acting like we've got to do it before they do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, we're in a new space race. | ||
| Apparently. | ||
| The space race to just say the moon is ours. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That one's a lot harder than the whole, you know, building rockets and ask not what your country can do for you. | ||
| It's based on a false premise. | ||
| No, you just say the moon is ours now. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
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And, drumroll please, look at this. | |
| These shirts are being printed as we speak. | ||
| They'll be in next week. | ||
| It's designer cloth. | ||
| Feels really great. | ||
| He's not selling shirts. | ||
| Yes, it's a full color. | ||
| It's the astronaut coming over the moon. | ||
| It says Operation 51st State. | ||
| Space Force on the right arm. | ||
| The back. | ||
| News Wars. | ||
| It is amazing. | ||
| No reviews yet. | ||
| But the shirt. | ||
| I did this so quick today. | ||
| It can't be $19.95. | ||
| It's a designer shirt. | ||
| The printing costs more. | ||
| The shirt costs $10. | ||
| The printing's going to cost $3. | ||
| I told him I moved quick. | ||
| It's getting printed right now. | ||
| It's going to be $29.95. | ||
| I guess you can get your order in. | ||
| It's $29.95. | ||
| But that's how we do these plugs here. | ||
| Things are moving quick. | ||
| So it's all about selling a shirt. | ||
| It's going to be a $30 shirt? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's all buzz marketing for the shirt. | ||
| Like, he's doing this change.org petition that he knows no one's going to take fucking seriously, even if I'm... | ||
| Billion people signed it. | ||
| No one's going to fucking annex the moon. | ||
| You need to change international law in order to do that. | ||
| He's doing it in order to drum up possible coverage for it in order to drive sales for this stupid shirt. | ||
| But also, the fact that he's putting out more shirts and all this stuff, it makes me think that that we have a year left thing might have been more of a sales ploy. | ||
| I'm leaning closer to that direction than it being a sincere existential threat. | ||
| Yeah, it seems more like the product that we have a year left on is all the supplement shit. | ||
| And it's not like the show is going to end. | ||
| It's just he's going to stop selling supplements. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, he's like now at like 75% off or something. | ||
| He's claiming, I don't know if it's true, but he's claiming some of it is like below cost. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like he's losing money on selling it. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| I don't know how much of that is true. | ||
| It could just be all bravado and nonsense sales, but like it doesn't feel like... | ||
| It doesn't feel like that was sincere, is what I'm getting at. | ||
| So, Eddie's response to this is immediately to be like, you know what you should do? | ||
| You should change the name of that to Operation State 51. Because he's doing a play on Area 51. Right. | ||
| And Alex is not quite picking up on what he's talking about. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| And Eddie keeps being like, no, no, no, you need to change the name. | ||
| Trust me, change the name. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| And it's, you know. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| It's not that interesting. | ||
| Way over his head. | ||
| Because what's more interesting is that Alex has an idea for Eddie. | ||
| He wrote the Declaration of Indemundance. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| He has an idea about how the UFC, a very successful company, can get a doubling of their audience, I believe. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And his idea is pretty... | ||
| Brilliant? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| I can tell the UFC how to double their audience right now. | ||
| Cut them in half. | ||
| There's a lot of ways. | ||
| Actually, gladiators let them kill each other. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But I'm up for that. | ||
| But you could have, like, the biggest guys, like Brock Lesnar at his peak or whatever, and then they'll fight, like, say, three lightweights at the same time. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Let's do it. | ||
| That would double viewers. | ||
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Oh, hell yeah. | |
| Add some pit bulls. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| Break records. | ||
| I think Eddie is dismissive there. | ||
| That is totally Eddie being dismissive. | ||
| I think he's like, yeah, great idea. | ||
| Let's fucking do dog fighting, too. | ||
| Let's have humans fight animals. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That would boost ratings. | ||
| That is fun. | ||
| Let's have three little guys fight a big guy. | ||
| That is fun. | ||
| Eddie Bravo is so fucking stupid everywhere, but if you step into his fucking room, he's gonna put you down. | ||
| UFC is his thing, and he's going to be like, oh yeah, that's a great fucking idea, you idiot. | ||
| I don't think that's it. | ||
| I think that he's maybe matured a little bit. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| This is probably... | ||
| This is speculation right there. | ||
| Given no other context, I would say that it sounds more like Eddie is hip to Alex more than he has been in the past. | ||
| And he's still, in the same way that Joe is less willing to believe... | ||
| It seems like Eddie might also be a little bit like, this guy might be full of shit, but whatever, we're friends. | ||
| It seems like he's putting up with him more, whereas Sam is the Eddie of the show. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Because Sam doesn't have as much experience there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sam hasn't been burned as many times. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Or Sam is just a bigger idiot. | ||
| It's the vibe I got while I was listening to this. | ||
| It's like, Eddie feels over it and kind of like, Whatever. | ||
| And Sam seems like he's eager to impress Alex and yell a whole bunch about bullshit. | ||
| That is a fun microcosm of the very situation that we're talking about with Alex's ebb and flow of listener. | ||
| They jump in, they listen for a while, they listen to what Alex has to say, they get burned too many times, and then they go, and then Sam is our new listener who jumps in, he Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But maybe Sam's the kind of guy who also likes to do that sort of thing, and it's a good partnership, and he won't disappear. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| But whatever the case is... | ||
| Maybe Sam's about to host the fourth hour a lot. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| It's a strange dynamic. | ||
| But, Alex, I've got to remind you before this next clip. | ||
| This is a family show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You ever, like, dirty street with the ladies, like, a little jujitsu in the bedroom? | ||
| Like, you know, a little... | ||
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Say that again? | |
| A little jujitsu in the bedroom. | ||
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Oh, no, we don't do that. | |
| That's good. | ||
| I like hot chicks who do jujitsu because they choke me out. | ||
| No blood to this. | ||
| Come on, come on, come on! | ||
| Family show. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Family show. | ||
| I don't like any of that. | ||
| That's all bad. | ||
| He was even trying to be funny with that whole thing, and that was worse. | ||
| I do like Eddie's... | ||
| Say that again? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I do like that sort of like... | ||
| Come on? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, we don't do that. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| So they start talking about Trump's election a little bit. | ||
| And I think that this clip is really interesting because I think it really highlights how Alex can't quite get his story straight about whether or not Trump was elected by the will of the people or by good guys in the intelligence community. | ||
| I think he can't quite square that they're mutually exclusive things. | ||
| And so he just says both. | ||
| The globalists made a deal. | ||
| They married the Tshikons. | ||
| And so at the 11th hour, 58th minute, U.S. intelligence had a civil war, put Trump in. | ||
| He was really elected, but not the Russians, did it? | ||
| U.S. intelligence put Trump in. | ||
| A ragtag group. | ||
| And now they're threatening everybody, attacking their families. | ||
| And then if you support them, like me, I'm not in any intelligence group. | ||
| I'm a private, organic Texan. | ||
| Then they come after you. | ||
| I mean, it's been amazing. | ||
| I loved it, actually. | ||
| But, I mean, it's real toe-to-toe with these people. | ||
| And they're a bunch of devil-worshipping pedophiles. | ||
| It's a devil-worshipping pedophile group against us. | ||
| And that's why Kanye's out of Jesus. | ||
| It's Jesus versus Satan. | ||
| So, I don't think you can make the argument that good guys in the intelligence community installed Trump and simultaneously it was the American people who put him in. | ||
| Not just that. | ||
| It was a ragtag band of heroes, Dan. | ||
| We got our Bruce Willis. | ||
| We got our Ben Affleck. | ||
| We got our Steve... | ||
| All of them are Steve Buchanan. | ||
| We got Steve Buscemi as well. | ||
| Who is also Steve Buchanan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, but he was also actually elected. | ||
| William Binney. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is in the mix. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Sure. | ||
| It's horseshit. | ||
| See, what was happening is the will of the people was we elected him, but then the bad CIA people were going to say we didn't elect him. | ||
| So then the ragtag band of heroes came in and reoriented the... | ||
| It was a counter-coup. | ||
| Legitimately, on his show, the people are the only person I really know for sure who tells him about that ragtag gang of intelligence agents. | ||
| And the fact that Alex has now come to the point where he doesn't believe Steve anymore, and we've gone back and seen why he should never have believed Steve. | ||
| It's crazy that he's held on to that piece of information that clearly is from Steve. | ||
| Right. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| It's very weird. | ||
| Like, you need to reconsider things when the source of something is shown to be a liar. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| That's only going forward. | ||
| You can't... | ||
| You can't... | ||
| Ignore what Steve said ex post facto, Dan. | ||
| That's in the law. | ||
| Well, I mean, I guess if it means that you have to, like, if you completely change everything you do to accommodate the bad information, it becomes really difficult to own up to the fact that I got tricked by this dude. | ||
| Yeah, especially if you claim to be right 99% of the time, and then you have to go back and go through your archives and be like, oh, that one's Steve. | ||
| That wasn't true. | ||
| That wasn't Steve. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That wasn't true. | ||
| That wasn't Steve. | ||
| It's a problem. | ||
| My batting average is down to 88% always correct. | ||
| Certainly nowhere near that. | ||
| So Eddie and Sam, I think one of their main objectives in coming on the show is to play a deepfake video that Kyle Dunagan, comedian Kyle Dunagan, had made about Jeffrey Epstein's death, where Bill Clinton... | ||
| And Donald Trump are trying to get Epstein to auto-erotically asphyxiate himself. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| It's not great comedy. | ||
| So it's like a bit. | ||
| The two of them are talking to Epstein. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like, hey, this is a funny movie. | ||
| They're like eating popcorn and trying to get... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So this is definitely a family show. | ||
| It's a family show. | ||
| And it's also not funny. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| What's more interesting is that after the video... | ||
| Alex, there's a real trend that he's trying to impress them. | ||
| This is so perfectly encapsulating of that. | ||
| This is so crazy. | ||
| Okay, so people that just saw it on TV understand what it was. | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| Tell us who's doing the deep fakes. | ||
| Kyle Dunnigan. | ||
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He's amazing. | |
| He's a comedian. | ||
| He's a master. | ||
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Yeah, he's always at the comedy store and he does that. | |
| His Instagram is... | ||
| Does he know Trump? | ||
| Because that's reportedly how Trump actually eats popcorn. | ||
| I'm not joking. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| That's what he does. | ||
| For real? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Man studies his characters. | ||
| That's what... | ||
| He's the Daniel Day-Lewis of deep fakes. | ||
| That's what they call him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Just go on Instagram and look up Kyle Dunnigan, and he's got a whole bunch of videos like that that are hysterical. | ||
| Yeah, I was told by somebody that hung out with Trump quite a bit that when he's relaxing, because he has to be really focused all the time, that he'll get in his theater room or whatever. | ||
| He'll just be, you know, basically in a robe or whatever. | ||
| And he actually just throws popcorn in his face. | ||
| And it just does that. | ||
| I was like, whoa, just got no trunk. | ||
| That's like inside baseball. | ||
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Serious. | |
| He's connected. | ||
| Yeah, I've been told that by actually two people. | ||
| Because I asked by the nose tremper, they go, no, that's actually true. | ||
| That's what he does. | ||
| Oh my god, Trump throws popcorn at his face. | ||
| This is inside information. | ||
| Yeah, that's so... | ||
| Alex is so desperate to act like he knows secret things or like, hey man, I know things that only friends would know. | ||
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It's so sad. | |
| You know what's more likely? | ||
| That's how an asshole eats popcorn. | ||
| And he's doing a caricature of an asshole. | ||
| That is how an asshole eats popcorn. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Either that or we elected Howard Hughes, I suppose. | ||
| That's pretty much it. | ||
| You know, I don't begrudge anyone for hanging out in a robe, watching a film or whatever. | ||
| Especially not if you've got a personal theater for yourself. | ||
| And hey, who amongst us hasn't tossed food at our face? | ||
| Throw it in the air and try and catch it in your mouth. | ||
| Everybody likes to have fun. | ||
| Every now and again. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's not inside information. | ||
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All in moderation. | |
| That's not inside information. | ||
| It would have been any detail. | ||
| It could have been any detail. | ||
| Anything. | ||
| Anything in that video and he would have been... | ||
| Oh man, I know people who said that that's true. | ||
| He could be drinking through a straw and be like, did you know that Trump always uses a straw? | ||
| He totally uses a straw. | ||
| No matter what cup, always uses a straw. | ||
| Always a straw. | ||
| It could be, yeah. | ||
| Mug, straw. | ||
| It's just so desperate to be like associated. | ||
| Goblet, straw. | ||
| I gotta impress you guys. | ||
| You guys like this stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm in it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm gonna get Trump to get us the moon. | ||
| I am from the dark. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sad. | ||
| So, they start complaining. | ||
| This is the last clip I've got here. | ||
| Because, I mean, this shit's all over the place. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| And I don't think it's really worthwhile to go over him just yelling about how Trump needs to let Assange go. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| And Alex's Epstein stuff I really don't find interesting at all. | ||
| And I find kind of irresponsible and I'm not super interested in it. | ||
| But Alex and the guests are complaining about the Young Turks. | ||
| And whatever. | ||
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I'm sick of them being right! | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I have mixed feelings on some of this. | ||
| But I think that they're being very unfair. | ||
| And then also, Sam Tripoli says something at the end of this that is a strong indication that some of his beliefs might be much worse than even he's presenting on this episode. | ||
| Names it after the militia that did it, the young turds. | ||
| Yeah, he knew what he was doing, dude. | ||
| You know, and you know you're wrong. | ||
| Rebrand! | ||
| And again, that was Muslims killing Christians. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, we could get in Kazarians, but you know, that's another story. | ||
| That's another story. | ||
| But yeah, it's real. | ||
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What? | |
| I have zero interest in going to bat for Cenk and the Young Turks. | ||
| Cenk in particular has had some really fucking terrible opinions in the past. | ||
| But to his credit, I've definitely seen him respond to criticism in a human way, reflecting that his positions have changed and all that shit. | ||
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Sure. | |
| That's probably not the case for all the things he said that have been not great. | ||
| But I know that he's absolutely addressed the horrible things that he'd written on his blog and positions that he had that were denying of the Armenian Genocide. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| I did not know about that. | ||
| Yeah, when he was younger, he had some denialist claims about the Armenian Genocide. | ||
| That's terrible stuff. | ||
| It's definitely a big asterisk on his credibility, but he's been pretty consistent in the more recent past. | ||
| I should say very consistent in the more recent past that he didn't know enough back then, he shouldn't have commented on the issue, and that he believes that the Genocide is real. | ||
| I don't know if that lets him off the hook or if anyone should trust his judgment at all. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's a choice everyone's got to make for themselves. | ||
| I don't really have a strong position on it. | ||
| I don't think that genocide denialism is something that you can take lightly even if someone corrects their position. | ||
| I think that's pretty out there. | ||
| But at the same time, I understand being like... | ||
| Learning more. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think it's impossible to change, and I give the benefit of the doubt that it is. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because when you have somebody who's a Holocaust denier, generally you don't see the progression of them apologizing and coming around like, I had terrible information, I didn't know enough, I never should have said those things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That behavior isn't really typical of people who are dyed-in-the-wool denialists. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| So I don't know exactly what to make of Cenk and his positions. | ||
| I don't have a strong position on it, I guess. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But the name The Young Turks, I don't think it's a reference to the militia that was involved in the Armenian genocide, as Alex and Sam Tripoli are suggesting. | ||
| Cenk was born in Istanbul, and his original show was just called The Young Turk because he's young and Turkish. | ||
| One of the problems with Alex and Tripoli deciding that the Young Turks is a reference to that militia is to do so, to say that, is to ignore literally all the other times groups have used the name Young Turks. | ||
| It's a pretty common name. | ||
| Typically, it's a name that's been taken on by people who are trying to change the direction of their own party from within. | ||
| For instance, a group of New Zealand politicians in the National Party were trying to push for reform in the 60s, and they took on the name the Young Turks. | ||
| The same is true of a group of Republicans who worked together after Barry Goldwater lost that election really embarrassingly and tried to replace leadership in the party. | ||
| They tried to change things from within. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So while it's true that these groups all take their name from the Turkish nationalist group the Young Turks, who were involved in the Armenian Genocide, that is definitely true. | ||
| And based on that, I would say that none of these groups should have used that name, and Rod Stewart shouldn't have made a song called Young Turks in 1981. | ||
| I would have chosen different names for all of it. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| He should have let Ted Nugent name that song. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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That said, I think it's far more plausible that this term, the Young Turks, has taken on a completely different context. | |
| that Cenk started his show and the colloquial meaning of the word completely fit his mission, which is to say that he wanted to change from within. | ||
| And it also fit the description of himself, young and Turkish. | ||
| It makes sense as a name given the use of the name in political Worlds. | ||
| And a descriptor of himself. | ||
| I don't think that he was trying to name himself after the Turkish militia as much as he was using a term. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Now, if you want to argue about whether any of these groups should use the term, like I said, maybe not. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Well... | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| There's a... | ||
| I mean, you know, just because something has been, what, I suppose... | ||
| Laundered? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That very, very negative connotation being passed through a bunch of different iterations of using it as a positive term. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| You know, it's... | ||
| You still don't want... | ||
| Just because things may have changed, you're still not going to call your show the Stasi, you know? | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, like, you just don't. | ||
| Just don't. | ||
| Well, I mean, like what, you know, Nazi troops called stormtroopers. | ||
| You got stormtroopers and... | ||
| In the Star Wars universe. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But they're not the hero of your story. | ||
| One of them is in the new version. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| It's not the exact same thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But... | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| I'm not going to defend Cenk aggressively here. | ||
| I'm not... | ||
| Whatever the situation is, I'm positive it's far more complicated than he named his group after this militia. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But it is complicated. | ||
| But what I am going to say, though... | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Is that Sam Tripoli dropped an unfortunate bomb at the end of his sentence. | ||
| Alex is saying that it was Muslims killing Christians. | ||
| And Sam butts in that it was Kazarians. | ||
| But that's another story. | ||
| That is definitely another story. | ||
| It's a strong indication that Sam Tripoli might be one of these guys who thinks that most Jewish people aren't actually Jewish and actually are the descendants of Kazarian Turks. | ||
| Oh, that's the same one! | ||
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Fuck! | |
| Fuck me! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| God, he's a fucking... | ||
| Maybe, but maybe unknowingly is pushing forth this... | ||
| He just likes conspiracy theories, maybe, or he's a fucking British Israelist. | ||
| Well, it's possible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It seems like the surrounding context leads to that conclusion, because why did that rebuttal come up when Alex said it was Muslims killing Christians? | ||
| It seems like Sam wanted to say actually it was the Jews, but hid behind a little code that most people won't see for the anti-Semitic trash that it is. | ||
| And maybe he doesn't even realize. | ||
| Right. | ||
| When you're someone who believes every dumb piece of nonsense you read online and you show up on The Alex Jones Show and make Eddie Bravo sound super rational, I don't have a lot of faith in the point that you're trying to make when you bring up Kazarians. | ||
| It's a gigantic buzzword in the more anti-Semitic areas of conspiracy theory. | ||
| And this ill-informed douche hosts a show called Tinfoil Hat. | ||
| So I'm going to just go ahead and say this is a red flag. | ||
| Yeah, that's a big one. | ||
| Every time we scratch a conspiracy theorist, you get somebody who hates the Jews. | ||
| But it might not be me! | ||
| No, I'm not even saying... | ||
| It might be masked hate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It might just be a belief that you'd understand on a deeper level that, yeah, man, all right, all right, the New World Order is run by Jews, but they're not really Jews. | ||
| They're Ashkenazi Jews who are actually Turkish people, the Kazarian Turks who invaded and they turned into Jews. | ||
| They converted to Judaism in order to take over the world and get the birthright back that Esau lost. | ||
| Man. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's some fairyland thinking right there. | ||
| It makes me worried. | ||
| It makes me worried that he drops that in there. | ||
| Yeah, that guy... | ||
| You can't really definitively say what he means because he doesn't expand on it because it's another story. | ||
| It's another story. | ||
| But the way that Alex doesn't respond and leaves it hanging makes me think that Alex is maybe aware that, like, uh-oh. | ||
| If this dude talks more, he might... | ||
| I had David Duke on to push away from this situation. | ||
| Yeah, it's troubling. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I guess the end conclusion to this is that Alex had Eddie and Sam Tripoli on, and Alex is desperate for attention. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Just everything you see, it's like, why is he doing that? | ||
| It's like, oh, obviously. | ||
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Right. | |
| Just like, oh, he's doing this G video because he wants to try and bait people into covering it. | ||
| And just doing this, let's take over the moon thing because he wants to sell a shirt. | ||
| It's sad. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You look at the president, it's so, like, you jump back and forth from the past to the present. | ||
| And in the past, he's terrible, but you move to the present, and like I said, nothing means anything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You see why he's doing these things, and all roads lead back to, like, pay attention to me. | ||
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Well, he's the character from Glen Ross. | |
| He's a, what, Lemon's character? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Who steals the leads? | ||
| Yeah, he's the sad old man realizing that he doesn't have it anymore and his desperation reeks so bad that... | ||
| Whatever it was that he was trying to do, you're just so turned off by the desperation. | ||
| Are you Alec Baldwin, then? | ||
| Me? | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm just an extra. | ||
| I think I'm just an extra. | ||
| Are there extras? | ||
| I'm pretty sure. | ||
| There's a play. | ||
| There's got to be somebody in the background. | ||
| I think there are like six characters. | ||
| I'm a background artist, okay? | ||
| All right. | ||
| There might be like a bartender. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I'm the bartender. | ||
| I'm fine with being the bartender. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I don't need the sales anymore. | ||
| I think most of it takes... | ||
| Oh, you could be the husband. | ||
| I'll be the husband? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| I'm a stay-at-home dog dad now. | ||
| Most of that takes place in an office, I think, and a restaurant booth. | ||
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I really, sincerely think there might be six... | |
| That I'm a waitress. | ||
| There might be six actors in that movie. | ||
| I'm one of the trees. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Just desperate. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's a pretty good way to define it. | ||
| It's like he's passed his prime and he's trying to steal the Glengarry leads in order to stay relevant. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And in order for him to pull that scam off, he needs the media to pay attention to this stuff. | ||
| And one of the things that I actually think is pretty heartening is that I haven't seen people posting about this G video where he's a dragon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I haven't seen people posting about, like, just overt... | ||
| Racist Asian voice. | ||
| And that's good. | ||
| I think that's progress. | ||
| I wish we didn't talk about it, because I think even that gives it more attention. | ||
| But this context doesn't really help promote him. | ||
| So I think it's okay on some level for us to discuss this. | ||
| Especially within the context of, like, this is just a desperate cry for, look at me. | ||
| Yeah, look at the saddest man in the world. | ||
| That's what we're doing. | ||
| And on the same token, I don't know, you know... | ||
| If this isn't going to grow or something. | ||
| I haven't seen anybody covering him trying to annex the moon. | ||
| So that's also heartening. | ||
| Because he needs those outlets to cover those things in order to spread the message further than he has the ability to. | ||
| So resisting that impulse seems to be what people are doing and I applaud them for it. | ||
| But we'll see. | ||
| We'll see what happens. | ||
| I don't know what we're going to do for Monday. | ||
| I can't imagine spending the time to listen to another episode with Eddie and Sam. | ||
| No, they've got great comedic timing together. | ||
| True. | ||
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They're all kind of yes-anding. | |
| None of them are yelling over each other trying to get to the same bit at the same time. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
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It's good stuff, you know? | |
| Everybody's listening and responding appropriately in the moment. | ||
| They crushed all the segments. | ||
| The first segment? | ||
| Crushed. | ||
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The second segment? | |
| Off the rails. | ||
| But either way, we'll be back on Monday with a new episode for y 'alls. | ||
| Indeed we will. | ||
| Sorry again about this being a little delayed, but it happens. | ||
| But until Monday, we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| Even after Monday. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're not going to take the website down on Tuesday. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But the website that you could visit that we might take down on Tuesday is knowledgefight.com. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| We're also on Facebook. | ||
| We are. | ||
| And if you want to listen to our show, you could go to iTunes. | ||
| You could download. | ||
| You could leave a review. | ||
| But let me tell you something. | ||
| That's not the best way to do it. | ||
| What you're going to want to do is take you and your family. | ||
| To a vacation in Cabo. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Cabo. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Now, you go about four feet into the ocean at high tide. | ||
| You're going to want to do it at low tide because it doesn't seem as far. | ||
| But high tide, reach down directly underneath that. | ||
| There will be a seashell. | ||
| And let me tell you something, that's going to have a little stick drive on it. | ||
| I was really hoping you were somehow going to weave in David Lee Roth in his Cabo Wabo. | ||
| Is that David Lee Roth? | ||
| I don't think it is. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I think it's the other guy from Van Halen. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Sammy Hagar! | ||
| Sammy Hagar! | ||
| Whoever has that tequila. | ||
| Love his pants, by the way. | ||
| I was hoping he would show up with a bottle of tequila that has the film drive in it, but I respect the seashell. | ||
| No, it's a metaphysical two bottles of tequila, actually. | ||
| Metaphysically. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So anyway, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then... | ||
| Glenn, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZXClark. | ||
| I am the Jesus Lizard. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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