Today, Dan and Jordan discuss Alex Jones' very weird last week. In this installment, the gents find Alex encouraging his audience to go bother doctors at abortion clinics and announcing that the end may be near for his career. Also, PJW manages to outdo himself in terms of lazy journalism.
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I have great respect for knowledge fight. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Rettler, Rettler, Rettler. | ||
| I need money. | ||
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Rettler, Rettler, Rettler. | |
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
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Stop it. | |
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| What was the longest paper you ever wrote in college? | ||
| Or perhaps the longest paper you ever wrote, period. | ||
| Or what was the shortest paper you ever wrote? | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
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Well, then never mind. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| What do you mean you don't know? | ||
| I remember... | ||
| You remember specific papers in college? | ||
| Yeah, of course I do. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| What? | ||
| You don't? | ||
| No. | ||
| Really? | ||
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No. | |
| I thought you liked it. | ||
| I did, but I don't have a lot of memories of term papers or anything I wrote. | ||
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Oh, yeah? | |
| I have a memory of some subjects that were covered and the information, but not the actual experience of writing the paper or how long it was. | ||
| Really? | ||
| No. | ||
| No shit? | ||
| No, I think that's nuts. | ||
| I wrote a 25,000-word paper. | ||
| Of course I'm going to remember that shit. | ||
| That's very easy for me to forget. | ||
| I smoked a lot of weed. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I didn't smoke a lot of weed in college. | ||
| I was a nerd! | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I wrote a lot of papers on a lot of subjects, and I always did very well with them. | ||
| I'm a very good paper writer. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Especially back in college. | ||
| And, no, but I don't remember any of them because they just rolled off me like water off a duck's back. | ||
| Oh, you were so good. | ||
| You just tossed them out. | ||
| Non-stop. | ||
| Non-stop. | ||
| Winners. | ||
| Nothing but winners. | ||
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Gotcha. | |
| 100%. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I understand now. | ||
| So, Jordan, this is a podcast where I don't know anything about my old term papers, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| And I don't know anything. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| So today we've got an interesting episode to go over. | ||
| We're going to be covering the time frame of September 6th to September 11th, 2019. | ||
| Oh boy! | ||
| A very interesting time period. | ||
| A lot of ins and outs. | ||
| A lot of real wild shit going on. | ||
| And we'll get to all of that here in a moment. | ||
| But before we do, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to the people who have signed up and are supporting the show. | ||
| So first of all, Simon, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Simon. | ||
| Thank you, Simon. | ||
| Next, Katie. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Katie. | ||
| Thanks, Katie. | ||
| Next, Ralph. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Ralph. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sorry I pronounced your name in a way that sounded almost like an onomatopoeia. | ||
| I did not mean that. | ||
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I apologize. | |
| It is kind of weird how you almost have to pronounce Ralph like Ralph. | ||
| I didn't mean to. | ||
| I have nothing but respect for the noble Ralphs of the world, like Wreck-It. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Next. | ||
| Gunk, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Gunk. | ||
| Thanks, Gunk. | ||
| Next, Daniel, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Daniel. | ||
| Daniel, my brother. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right, Daniel. | ||
| Daniel. | ||
| Next, Jamie, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Thanks, Jamie. | |
| And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on Elevated Level. | ||
| We appreciate that very much. | ||
| So, David, thank you so much. | ||
| And Tua, thank you so much. | ||
| You are both wonderful technocrats. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Crikey, mate. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right? | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimps so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare... | ||
| Infowar on you! | ||
| Thank you so much, David and Tua. | ||
| Thank you very much, David and Tua. | ||
| So we wanted to take a little quick moment before we get any further into the show to give a little bit of an explanation of some stuff. | ||
| But before we do, here's an out-of-context drop from Alex Jones. | ||
| I'm not metrosexual. | ||
| I want to take care of my skin, dammit. | ||
| So let's become metrosexual. | ||
| I'm joking. | ||
| He's joking. | ||
| He's joking. | ||
| Hey, hey, that'd be terrible. | ||
| That'd be terrible. | ||
| Yeah, we just want to thank everybody who listens and everybody who supports the show. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's insane the expectation that we had going into this versus the reality of it. | ||
| It's overwhelming in many ways. | ||
| It creates insecurity. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Because we do essentially no promotion whatsoever, the only reason that we've grown to the point we have is because people who listen have shared it and have been very, very supportive. | ||
| We've grown now to the point where we could pursue doing ads on the show. | ||
| Yeah, probably not too difficult. | ||
| And it's been that way for a little bit now, but I think that we both, in private conversations, feel fairly similarly. | ||
| With ebbs and flows, perhaps, based on a daily mood. | ||
| But I think we have a feeling that doing ads, especially on a show like ours, kind of feels weird. | ||
| And it might lead to a diminished experience for listeners. | ||
| People not enjoying it so much, or, you know, if we... | ||
| Go with somebody who gets to choose our ads for us. | ||
| We might end up with a fucking Infowars ad. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And I don't want to make fun of an Alex Jones ad pivot and then immediately be like, all right, and now our sponsors are. | ||
| Harry's Razors. | ||
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Fuck that. | |
| No offense to Harry's Razors. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| I use Harry's Razors. | ||
| And if they want to advertise me. | ||
| In many ways, our audience, I don't know what. | ||
| What they would be served by an advertisement for. | ||
| Like, I'm not entirely sure if anything, us advertising would be... | ||
| A positive for the audience. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then also the show itself would feel weird. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So we're at a point where we're making a strong commitment to not taking advertising. | ||
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Right. | |
| And being entirely audience supported, as we have been. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And we appreciate everybody who has signed up. | ||
| And in order for us to really turn this into exactly what it can be and should be. | ||
| It would mean a lot. | ||
| If you're considering signing up as a donor, as a patron, it would really help. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It would be very, very helpful. | ||
| We are incredibly resistant to this sort of thing. | ||
| Yeah, we don't... | ||
| But, you know, the average... | ||
| If you look at our Patreon page, it's a couple bucks to become a policy wonk. | ||
| Please do it. | ||
| That out of the way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we're going to now get into September 6th through the 11th, and here's an out-of-context drop from Alex. | ||
| Again, I have so much news, I can't even cover it right now. | ||
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What did I say? | |
| I was going to cover it when I came back. | ||
| There's just too much here. | ||
| I think that's putting on an act, but it still is weird. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then he spent the next hour, I assume, talking with Barnes about his continuing legal travels. | ||
| I will say. | ||
| Because there's too much news that he's got to get to. | ||
| That Barnes does make at least two appearances on this stretch of time. | ||
| I'm sick of Barnes! | ||
| So much Barnes. | ||
| So much Barnes. | ||
| So we start on the 6th, and Alex is in a bit of a weird mood. | ||
| And in this clip, he defines leadership. | ||
| But I think I only kept this clip in because he pronounces some words funny and I kind of enjoyed it. | ||
| Leadership that's positive is doing things you know are right that you know are going to end up hurting you but end up in the end being proven right and launching whole new human systems of success and empowerment and enlightenment. | ||
| As humans ascend and become closer to God, that's leadership. | ||
| Sabotaging culture, learning how to manipulate people, engaging in deception is cancer. | ||
| It's knowledge of evil. | ||
| It's a virus. | ||
| It manipulates systems that already existed and causes entropy and collapse. | ||
| It does not progenerate. | ||
| It does not fount. | ||
| It does not found. | ||
| It is not a source. | ||
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Source. | |
| It is not a creator. | ||
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Oh. | |
| It is not a builder. | ||
| A constructor. | ||
| It's a builder bird. | ||
| An expander. | ||
| They are collapsers. | ||
| So I think this has some of the similar ideas to his Tree of Good and Evil misunderstanding of the Garden of Eden story. | ||
| But I just think he's pronouncing creator weird. | ||
| Bildor is not how that's pronounced. | ||
| Nor is it how it's spelled. | ||
| I like that, and this is always true, nobody is better at explaining why Alex is the worst than Alex when he's talking about... | ||
| What he thinks other people are doing. | ||
| Like, he literally just laid out all of the reasons. | ||
| I couldn't have put it better myself why he is a cancer. | ||
| Like, he really nailed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he has a couple of, like, really accidentally introspective clips throughout this show. | ||
| And I think part of it is, like, there's a real fucked up headspace that we're going to get into when we get to the 11th. | ||
| September 11th. | ||
| 9-11, 18th anniversary. | ||
| Apparently he talks about 9-11. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| But does make a startling revelation. | ||
| That I think people will be very excited to hear. | ||
| The Iraq War was a false flag! | ||
| No, he probably already believes. | ||
| That seems very milquetoast for him. | ||
| Yeah, and in many ways it kind of is. | ||
| So, on the 6th, I think he's in a weird headspace, though. | ||
| Probably because of things that he ends up talking about in later episodes. | ||
| Because he knows. | ||
| He knows what's going on. | ||
| And so he comes back from break with some beetles. | ||
| And then he gets real fucking heady about this man. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Look for the girl with the sun in her eyes and she's gone. | ||
| Lucy in the sky. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
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Lucy in the sky with diamonds. | |
| I wonder what he's talking about. | ||
| Have you ever looked into a clear blue sky laying out on a green hill in the fall and just laid there for hours on a blanket and then watched the sun slowly set? | ||
| You can see the diamond lattice of the universe, God's handiwork in the firmament. | ||
| And you don't even need to be on LSD to see it. | ||
| That's the amazing part. | ||
| The good news is Chill Force works. | ||
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Alex's new product is clearly a banger. | |
| You don't need to take LSD, but I put a lot of it in this Chill Force, just in case you were wondering. | ||
| You ever lay out on a blanket and see stars, man? | ||
| I gotta check out this Chill Force. | ||
| That seems nice. | ||
| I gotta check out these stars. | ||
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There's a diamond lattice in the sky. | |
| Alright. | ||
| So Alex gets from there, from that really trippy college dorm. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| This is philosophy of the highest caliber. | ||
| And then he just launches into trying to scare people, naturally. | ||
| And what you do now today will echo through eternity, so I'm asking all listeners to remember that the power of this broadcast is you. | ||
| It's not like you're just a leg of it, or you're an arm of it, or you're part of the brain. | ||
| You're the whole shooting match. | ||
| It's you they hate. | ||
| It's you they want to silence. | ||
| It's you they want to disarm. | ||
| It's your children they want to poison and dumb down and mislead into hell with them for eternity. | ||
| And so, I'll say it again, your word of mouth, spreading the word, however you're listening, however you're watching, continually is unstoppable. | ||
| Your financial support is central. | ||
| Pivot. | ||
| Nice, smooth. | ||
| They want to kill your children. | ||
| You're all going to die. | ||
| It's so wild to me that both of us were sitting here like, And? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a real feeling that I had going through this episode and preparing it. | ||
| He's saying a lot of extremist shit that we'll get to. | ||
| Stuff that is so fucking crazy. | ||
| And I'm sitting here and I'm like... | ||
| Oh, no, no, Alex is talking. | ||
| We have become so inundated with his behaviors, whether it be from a bigotry standpoint or from a disgusting performance-based, like, I'm going to say that all of our enemies want to kill your children and I'm the only one who can stop them and now you need to give me money. | ||
| Or when he goes on to one of those weird improv quote-unquote descriptions of what it is you're going to do to your children in the basement. | ||
| I'm so numb to it. | ||
| It's very wild. | ||
| Like, the experience of sitting here listening to that clip was just both of us kind of, like, blasé. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Well, I mean, when we started... | |
| It should be, like, look at this fucking asshole. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Well, when we started, it was nonstop freaking out. | ||
| But now it's almost like he's... | ||
| Even though he's ramped up his rhetoric, it's like, how much further can you go, really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex extends his ad pitch, and he's getting into a lot more lately. | ||
| I'm not positive that this was part of how he framed things earlier in his career. | ||
| If he did, it was less frequently, but he's been putting it in a lot of religious terms lately, like people giving him money. | ||
| Okay, I'm done plugging. | ||
| Thank you for the support. | ||
| Please support our local AM and FM stations and TV stations as well with your word of mouth and become a sponsor or support the local sponsors. | ||
| Or, tithe to the truth, I say, is your church exposing post-birth abortion? | ||
| Is your church exposing the Mark of the Beast world government being announced? | ||
| Is it exposing the giant pedophile rings? | ||
| Is it exposing the satanic agenda? | ||
| No! | ||
| They're there intimidated by Buddha judge to just worship, you know, pedophile story time. | ||
| So... | ||
| Buttigieg? | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| He's mad at Pete. | ||
| Mayor Pete! | ||
| Oh, I thought he was talking about a Buddha who was a judge. | ||
| Oh, a judgmental Buddha? | ||
| Yeah, that's what I thought. | ||
| That's what I heard, for sure. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Talking about Pete. | ||
| He's mad at him because he, I guess he thinks he's like a mega church glitter bug type guy. | ||
| Yeah, why not? | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I just think it's pretty interesting, you know, the way that you got this framing of stuff being much more consistently put into the terms of like, we're better than your church. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Tithe to us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's almost like a religious duty to give Alex 10% of your wages. | ||
| Well, it's in the Bible. | ||
| It's upsetting. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So one of the other things that's upsetting is that there seems to be a trend, along with Robert Barnes being on all the fucking time, there's another guy who seems to be coming up a lot more frequently, and that is that guy Tom Papert. | ||
| If you recall, he is a guy who runs a station out of Wichita. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And Alex is on that station, and I don't know... | ||
| I mean, I guess this guy ran a semi-popular Trump Facebook page, a God Emperor Trump, and so that's Alex's way in or whatever, but this guy... | ||
| Must have blackmail on Alex because he is on a lot. | ||
| I don't like people using Dune for evil, Dan. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| So he comes on and he talks about how the Infowars audience has responded to times when they have, like, his TV station has a power blackout or something like that. | ||
| They have an interruption of service. | ||
| And I think that if you listen to how he describes the audience, he wants to put it in terms of them being very into the programming. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And instead, it kind of sounds like a paranoid cult. | ||
| We're a local TV station, so you've got movies, you've got news, you've got sports, you've got all kinds of stuff. | ||
| But let me tell you, when there's a bump in the night, when there's a power surge, when there's something bad that happens, it's not... | ||
| Anybody asking about the movie network, and I love the movie network. | ||
| It's a great movie network, but it is hundreds and hundreds of calls. | ||
| What happened to Alex? | ||
| You're not taking him off. | ||
| What happened to Alex? | ||
| Where's Alex Jones? | ||
| I need my InfoWars. | ||
| You're not getting rid of InfoWars. | ||
| It is completely unbelievable. | ||
| Not only that, people are loving it. | ||
| People support it. | ||
| People, they do tithe to the TV station. | ||
| They do support the advertisers. | ||
| They tithe to Tom Papert. | ||
| Man, this is gross. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| It's really gross. | ||
| Because what he's describing, I think it's exaggerated, probably. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But the mentality that he's exaggerating as like a positive sign is people like any service interruption is, you'll take away my Alex! | ||
| It's like an ingrained paranoia. | ||
| That is just bizarre. | ||
| Yeah, that's a little bit too much. | ||
| Especially to be presented as a positive. | ||
| Yeah, no, that's obsessive, weird, and I think sacrilegious. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I have a hard time being the guy who's like, hey, how dare you impugn religion? | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You're working against a tenant of religion. | ||
| Not my place, but it does feel, from what I remember when I used to go to church, it feels like this would be frowned upon. | ||
| I'm pretty sure my church, when I was growing up, was not revealing post-birth abortion, because that doesn't exist. | ||
| They were not telling us all about all of the other bullshit that he's lying about, but I'm pretty sure the pastor would be pissed off if somebody was like, no, no, no, don't tie it to the church, tie it to the... | ||
| TV station. | ||
| I write a zine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Tithe to me. | ||
| Tithe to me. | ||
| He'd be like, ah, God wasn't into that, dude. | ||
| So one of the other things God probably wouldn't be into is Tom and Alex. | ||
| I would describe... | ||
| I've seen little maybe indications of this in Tom Papert's past appearances on the show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I am kind of, especially on this September 6th episode, I'm seeing some indications that this dude might be real into white people stuff. | ||
| Oh, that's a surprise. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I'm just completely flummoxed by this development. | ||
| I'm guessing those people who call in when there's a disruption of service are not multi-ethnic, Dan. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| But this next clip, Tom and Alex kind of dance around accusing the U.N. of carrying out a white genocide. | ||
| Sure, sure, okay. | ||
| This is the U.N. agenda. | ||
| Bring in these tribal groups, bring the men that don't assimilate, and let them take over. | ||
| That's exactly right, and it's the 100%... | ||
| We've seen it across time. | ||
| and what you get into alex is really the intelligent part of this because they're doing less intentionally it's not by accident that we have the u_n_ trying to destroy western countries it's not by accident that we have been doing Okay, Tom. | ||
| How many red flag words did you catch on that one? | ||
| I don't know, but I got bingo, metaphorically. | ||
| I assume he wasn't including Guatemala in Western civilizations. | ||
| You'd have to ask Papert. | ||
| I'm guessing when he said they were settled by high-intelligence individuals, I don't think he was referencing the Native Americans, Dan. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I think he's being very specific about who he's describing. | ||
| I feel like there's a lot of code. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's stronger, sort of... | ||
| Reinforced by this next clip where he talks about Rome and what happened. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| What went wrong with Rome. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| And they know also that there have been clashes of culture since the beginning of time. | ||
| Look at how the Romans fell. | ||
| They start bringing in all of these tribes that were not genetically similar. | ||
| There are clashes. | ||
| They eventually, they will not adopt to the government. | ||
| They will not acclimate to the culture. | ||
| And it falls. | ||
| And that's what we're seeing now. | ||
| Now, I don't want to get into a big dissertation here. | ||
| On why Rome fell? | ||
| Probably the longest paper I've ever written. | ||
| Ah, nicely done! | ||
| But I want to leave that aside for a second and discuss how this broadcast and Alex Jones' worldview is explicitly anti-government. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is bizarre. | ||
| For them to be complaining about minority groups coming into a civilization and not submitting to the government. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| It's crazy that they don't submit to the government. | ||
| They won't assimilate, Dan. | ||
| And as we all know, the Roman government is famous for being kind to all of its citizens. | ||
| Leaving Rome aside again, it's almost like these dudes have a very different standard for white and non-white people. | ||
| For white people like themselves, it's very essential that they fight back against the oppressive government. | ||
| Yes, genetically similar to themselves, Dan. | ||
| For non-white people, you must submit. | ||
| They have to. | ||
| What else is there to do? | ||
| It's a bizarre mentality to see on display. | ||
| It would be one thing if they weren't all about being against the government. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But they are. | ||
| That's a very poor point for them. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's not very good. | ||
| I don't think they've thought a lot of this through and how kind of glaring a lot of these holes are just in their speech. | ||
| That's a surprise they haven't thought this all the way through. | ||
| So Alex gets into a long thing about a video that he found of some black person being set on fire in South Africa. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so now he's decided that one of his big crusades is going to be like... | ||
| Restarting Rhodesia? | ||
| I mean, metaphorically, yeah. | ||
| I guess that kind of is what he's... | ||
| There's a lot of rhetoric that runs along those lines. | ||
| But he starts talking about how... | ||
| The black folk in South Africa are racist against other black people, and the white people, you know, it's like they're just targets. | ||
| It's complicated, but he has a couple problems with his framing. | ||
| Put up a map of South Africa, you'll see Zulu land. | ||
| That's the only place Zulus... | ||
| We're like the Comanches of Africa, the big, tall, tough guys. | ||
| Zulu's all over Africa. | ||
| That's the tough guys. | ||
| Everybody's afraid of them. | ||
| Well, it doesn't matter when ten times the number comes in and they start killing the Zulu. | ||
| So let's put a map of South Africa. | ||
| Just type South Africa in, blow it up. | ||
| You'll see Zulu land. | ||
| One little area the Zulus get. | ||
| So, this is in the middle of a tirade that Alex is on about how the commies and the ANC were horrible anti-whites, but not only that, they forced the Zulu, the indigenous people of South Africa, to live in a tiny section of the country called Zululand. | ||
| The first misconception Alex seems to have is that Zulu only live in Zululand, which is actually called KwaZulu-Natal. | ||
| Zulu people live throughout South Africa and elsewhere, but if you just see Zululand on a map and you're stupid, you might get the idea that, hey, that's where all the Zulu are. | ||
| I immediately went to Disneyland, but that's just me. | ||
| Well, that's where all the Disney live. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Right. | ||
| When the British arrived in the late 1800s in South Africa, they immediately got into a bit of a fight with the Zulu, who by that point had a monarchical system in place. | ||
| Britain demanded their subjugation and surrendered a British rule, which the Zulu were not. | ||
| Man, you gotta give it up to the British because they're essentially Somali pirates at this time period. | ||
| The British eventually conquered the Zulu nation and divided the kingdom up into 13 substates, which I assume is most likely because it would be much more easy to manage things that way. | ||
| Yeah, and to oppress things that way. | ||
| The Zulu king, Dinozulu, made an alliance with the Boers and declared Zululand its own independent country a little while after. | ||
| This worried the British, since that alliance would give the Boers access to a port which could hurt British trade dominance in the region, so the British just annexed Zululand. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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The most important thing to remember is that the legacy of Zulu being forced to live in KwaZulu-Natal is not the legacy of the ANC. | |
| It is the direct result of apartheid. | ||
| When apartheid was still in place, hundreds of thousands of Zulu who lived outside KwaZulu had their land taken and they were forcibly relocated to KwaZulu. | ||
| It's not really all that different than any other formulation of white nationalism you hear, where you want non-whites to go somewhere, but on the off chance the place you send them to has a bunch of resources you want, you still want to be clear that you're in charge. | ||
| Due to the displacement of thousands and thousands of Zulu to KwaZulu in the years of apartheid, the distribution of Zulu population does skew pretty heavily towards KwaZulu. | ||
| But it's not the ANC or Nelson Mandela who did that. | ||
| It was the white apartheid government. | ||
| The way Alex is presenting this is very blatant and completely irresponsible. | ||
| He's pointing to a direct consequence of the brutal apartheid system and then blaming the consequences on the people who were subjected to said brutality. | ||
| Pure and simple. | ||
| This is an expression of overt white nationalism, and that is the prism through which he's looking at the world. | ||
| Okay, so wait. | ||
| Is he using this in concert with their other demographic bullshit, where they're saying, see, look what happened in Africa. | ||
| They let all these white people in, and the white people destroyed the entire country. | ||
| So that's why we can't let people into America? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, he's not making that point. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's arguing that Nelson Mandela and the ANC were the people who put all the Zulu in Zulu land. | ||
| That's the dumbest thing anybody could say. | ||
| It is. | ||
| That's incredibly stupid. | ||
| That's unreal. | ||
| He's ascribing blame for that geographical relocation that happened during apartheid to the people who were working against apartheid. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So that's basically what he's doing. | ||
| And that's the way that people like this look at the world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's fucked up. | ||
| They don't look at the world as though the British just went in and fucked everything up over and over and over again all across the world. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| They think that white people are superior, and that was... | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then when white people don't have power, that's when they fuck everything up. | ||
| And we'll pretend that the really, really negative things that were done during those periods of time were actually done by non-white people. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And it extends to even possibly more recent past in Africa, as we've covered this before in the past, but Alex re-understands the genocide in Rwanda. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Why have you go somewhere like... | ||
| Rwanda, where the small Christian tribe that only got Christianized in the last 400 years ended up having 90-plus percent of the wealth. | ||
| And then the UN and the globalists came in because they wanted the people that had all the land in control, and they killed the Christian minority with the animist. | ||
| It absolutely hasn't. | ||
| Cite your sources, prove any of that shit. | ||
| The reason that the Tutsi had a lot of the property was because they were deemed the bureaucratic class by the Belgians. | ||
| Prior to the events that unfolded. | ||
| It's almost like the fucking Stanford prison experiment, that whole circumstance. | ||
| Well, except that prison experiment isn't valid. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I know. | ||
| But, like, that kind of function of, like, almost arbitrarily the Belgians were just like, you guys. | ||
| You set two groups against each other because you deem one of them more similar to you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that is what Alex is pretending. | ||
| That, you know, just one group was Christian, when in reality both were mostly Christian, or similarly Christian. | ||
| And you have one group that was Christian, and therefore they became really rich, and then the UN wanted their stuff, so they sent these animists after them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's crazy bullshit. | ||
| That is white nationalist propaganda of the highest order. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And bullshit. | ||
| And ahistorical and dangerous. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So this next clip is just kind of dumb, but, you know, you could always use a little palate cleanser, I guess. | ||
| When it comes to trying to defend the unborn, when it comes to believing in America, these churches tell you how moral they are all day, and I guarantee you those preachers aren't. | ||
| They're probably down at the gay bar giving blowjobs right now. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| Did he just say most... | ||
| Pastors are closeted. | ||
| I don't know what he's exactly saying. | ||
| I think he's trying to use homosexuality as an insult, which is kind of par for the course for him. | ||
| Whatever, Alex. | ||
| This is a family show. | ||
| This is a family show. | ||
| I should remind you, Alex thinks that this is a family show. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| That's a good family. | ||
| So if you'll recall, Larry Grathwall is a guy who came out with some information about him. | ||
| Supposedly infiltrating the weather underground back in the 70s. | ||
| And he said that they planned... | ||
| Came out with 100% accurate information that nobody has disputed whatsoever. | ||
| Everybody's confirmed it. | ||
| There's absolutely no way. | ||
| He claimed that they were planning to put people in re-education camps who didn't give up on capitalism and that 25 million or so people would need to be killed. | ||
| And, of course, Alex confronted Weather Underground guy, Bill Ayers, about this. | ||
| And Bill Ayers explained to him that Larry Grathwold was a weird snitch who hung around. | ||
| No one trusted him, and he just made up a bunch of people. | ||
| And Alex has decided not to take that under advisement and still believes that everything Larry Grathwald said is 100% true. | ||
| And so Alex talks about that a little bit. | ||
| And then I think that Tom Papert got trolled and he thinks it's real. | ||
| Larry Grathwald died a few years ago. | ||
| He had his daughter on. | ||
| He was highly decorated in Vietnam. | ||
| Going to Mainline College. | ||
| They tried to recruit him. | ||
| This was the weatherman. | ||
| They said, we're going to put 50 million people in camps. | ||
| We're going to kill them. | ||
| And we're going to put their families in forced labor. | ||
| That came out in federal court. | ||
| Well, now you can go to Yahoo today in an article against me. | ||
| And I mean, a third of the comments. | ||
| I read hundreds of them. | ||
| There's like 2,500 comments that I... | ||
| I saw this morning. | ||
| I couldn't read them all, but I mean, I read a few hundred. | ||
| And it was like, we're going to kill him. | ||
| We're going to put him in a forced camp. | ||
| I can't wait for the communist takeover. | ||
| This is what they're teaching at the colleges. | ||
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Ah, yes. | |
| We know how the Weather Underground and their remnants love to fuck with Alex in comments on YouTube articles. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So there's a comment thread on a Yahoo article, and that is representative of how the entire population now wants to put... | ||
| I mean, that level of thinking is fucking crazy. | ||
| But, like, we're going to see one of the most unacceptable versions of that a little bit later in this episode. | ||
| Okay, now I'm excited. | ||
| But that idea of taking, like, just superfluous internet commentary as being indicative of anything. | ||
| Which actually, I mean, we get another example of it. | ||
| This isn't the super egregious one, but Tom Papert's got a real dumb-dumb thing to say here. | ||
| Antifa is mainline. | ||
| That's why mainstream media promotion is good. | ||
| And so, Tom Pepper, you were talking about a few years ago. | ||
| I remember seeing this. | ||
| It went viral. | ||
| Leftists fantasizing about, well, repeat what they were saying they were going to do. | ||
| I mean, it's absolutely insane. | ||
| It's either on Twitter or Tumblr, and we've posted it here recently on my Facebook page. | ||
| But what they're saying is the first guy says, so what are you going to do when the communists take over and we finally win? | ||
| And somebody says, oh, great question. | ||
| I'm going to be in uniform design and procurement for the Red Army. | ||
| And another guy comes in and says, that's a fascinating thought. | ||
| My only question is, does Tom Papert sincerely think that these people were for real? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or does he understand that they were fucking around and this is a joke? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And he just is like, I don't care that it's a joke. | ||
| It works for my optics. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I'm going to lie about this and pretend I think it's real. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, that's the only question I have. | ||
| So is he completely humorless or is he aware of his bullshit? | ||
| That's the only distinction I think that exists. | ||
| Because this is a crazy attempt to launder just, I guess, a fucking dumb internet joke into being like, these people are sincerely planning on the jobs that they're going to have with the Red Army. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Why would... | ||
| Look, even if there was a communist takeover... | ||
| Why would they have a Red Army again? | ||
| They've already had one. | ||
| It's the United States. | ||
| Just have a Green Army. | ||
| Make your own name. | ||
| It's fucking insane. | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| So some of those concerns that I had about Tom Papert having these white tendencies, let's say, were really elevated by some comments that he makes in this next clip sort of about countries. | ||
| I am a big racist Tom Papert. | ||
| Might as well. | ||
| Quote it. | ||
| This is real, folks. | ||
| They're trying to gear a worldwide collapse from which we basically kill ourselves, and then they return. | ||
| It's psychotic. | ||
| Really, they built a system that's not sustainable that's going to collapse. | ||
| So they've just tried to Svengali it and then claimed they really managed the whole thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, that's exactly right. | ||
| This is their solution. | ||
| And it's all around the world. | ||
| They have these little bug-out zones. | ||
| Iceland is one of them. | ||
| Switzerland is one of them. | ||
| These isolated areas where, for some reason, they don't have... | ||
| Multiculturalism and all of these immigrants who come from completely antithetical cultures. | ||
| They don't have all of these high taxes and insane policies that we have here in the West, but they're in the West. | ||
| It is because that's where Kim Jong-un goes to school. | ||
| That's where all of these great families, the Rockefellers, go to school. | ||
| Getting a lot of indications that West means white. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So Iceland has been very historically Icelandic, ethnically speaking. | ||
| That hasn't been true lately, though, largely because of big economic upturns in the Icelandic economy, which has the effect of drawing people in who are looking for opportunity. | ||
| In turn, Iceland has the incentive to welcome immigrants in because their economic success is aided by an inflow of labor which the immigrants provide. | ||
| The image of Iceland in the head as someone like Alex or Tom Papert is a homogenous place where everyone is white. | ||
| According to a 2017 census, 10.6% of the population of Iceland were first-generation immigrants, up from 4% in 1990. | ||
| One of the great difficulties about immigrating to Iceland is that it's a big island 900 miles away from Norway. | ||
| Getting to Iceland is a difficult feat for someone trying to immigrate. | ||
| And for many years after the 2008 financial crisis, it wasn't a hugely appealing option. | ||
| And in fact, a ton of native-born Icelanders took that as a sign to leave the country. | ||
| As the economy has diversified and the tourism sector has skyrocketed, Iceland is a place that looks a lot more appealing as a destination for someone trying to find a place they can survive. | ||
| Iceland is a country with a relatively small population, and it was starting from a place of very low immigration. | ||
| Switzerland is an even worse example for Tom to use. | ||
| Switzerland is consistently ranked very high on the list of countries with the highest proportion of their population being foreign-born, with a number sitting at around 23%. | ||
| Compared to the US, at approximately 14. A lot of these immigrants are from EU countries, but make no mistake about it, it's not like all the people who Tom would call Western, those are the only people who are immigrating to Switzerland. | ||
| There's a large population of Tamil people who fled the civil war in Sri Lanka, who have resettled in Switzerland. | ||
| There are large numbers of people from Croatia and Serbia who have made Switzerland their new home, as well as Filipinos and Pakistani populations that are particularly large. | ||
| What Tom is saying is categorically not true, but it feels right to people who yearn to live in a white ethnostate. | ||
| They want it so bad that they have to pretend that their imagined enemies have created these pure enclaves without immigrants, that they're just hogging for themselves. | ||
| Because even these globalists who preach all day about multiculturalism secretly know that you've got to just be surrounded by your own race. | ||
| They know it. | ||
| They know it, and they're keeping it to themselves in Iceland and Switzerland. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| This is a gigantic red flag from a white nationalism perspective. | ||
| This is extremist shit that's coming out of his mouth under the guise of normal conversation. | ||
| That's Brevick level. | ||
| Also, tax rates are an insanely complicated thing to compare across countries, but if you just look at the highest and lowest tax rate brackets, there's very little difference between the United States and Iceland or Switzerland. | ||
| There doesn't appear to be too much to what he's saying, other than what feels true to him, namely that these countries are ones that he associates with whiteness, and they're better because of it. | ||
| And Jordan, there's a name for that. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| What name? | ||
| I'll leave it. | ||
| God, any time these people get to talk unchallenged, I just always want to be there and just be like, tell me what Western means. | ||
| And you know what you know. | ||
| And I know what you know. | ||
| So just fucking quit it. | ||
| We all know. | ||
| I mean, they've already been very clear in past instances on this show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would say, what was it? | ||
| It was, like, yeah, yeah, no. | ||
| It was Aya Yokoful. | ||
| When the volcano erupted and shut down travel from the UK to the United States, Iceland was non-stop on there and their tourism jumped the next year by like 70%. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| And since then, of course, more people are showing up and all of them are from a lot of different places. | ||
| So there you go. | ||
| Maybe a hundred years ago you could say that Iceland was very... | ||
| It was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But it doesn't represent the reality that's been the case for a number of years now. | ||
| And it's not a globalist plot. | ||
| It's a natural occurrence of a diversifying and strengthening economy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Separate pitch. | ||
| Perhaps the volcano exploding was a global plot. | ||
| Alex does believe that they strategically set off volcanoes. | ||
| So, there we go. | ||
| I guess we're through the looking glass and anything is everything. | ||
| Anything is possible now. | ||
| So, Alex gets into talking about, I can't remember his name, that Democratic donor who would bring African-American dudes into his home and then inject them, like overdose, allegedly. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I remember that guy. | ||
| He's talking about that, and his commentary on it isn't worth talking about, really. | ||
| Yeah, I believe that. | ||
| But it spins out into sort of... | ||
| A claim that I don't think is accurate. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, there's something about black people, and I'm not a Satanist, I don't know it, but like the Rolling Stones just came out, sacrificed a black kid at their house in New York. | ||
| It's very hard to find it, but it was in the 70s. | ||
| Dead kid at their house, yeah. | ||
| They really tried to expunge it, but the point is, is that, yeah, there's a favorite of Satanists is killing black kids, and they like to kill all kids, and little girls especially, but they love to kill black kids and drink their blood. | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| And it's all admitted now. | ||
| This is the crazy thing. | ||
| Another example of where Alex Jones has been proven right. | ||
| Where? | ||
| He's into the adrenochrome shit there, even. | ||
| Like, they just love to kill black children and drink their blood. | ||
| Like, come on, man. | ||
| That's such a random-ass bullshit thing to do, too. | ||
| Why are you suddenly creating some sort of weird preference for them? | ||
| It's very weird, but it's also really strange. | ||
| Maybe it's the least strange thing. | ||
| The Tom Papert's reaction to shit like that is absolutely right, Alex. | ||
| You nailed it. | ||
| 100. | ||
| Proven right again. | ||
| Once again, Alex, you are knocking it out of the park, and I am doing a shitty announcer voice. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So also, I have legitimately no idea what Alex is talking about, about the Rolling Stones. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's very hard to find because it doesn't exist and it didn't happen. | ||
| I kind of think he's conflating two things. | ||
| The first thing is likely the killing of 18-year-old Meredith Hunter at the Rolling Stones concert at Altamont. | ||
| That was a young black man who died in the proximity of the band. | ||
| I think Alex is taking that and he's combining it with another element, which is the death of Rolling Stones founding member Brian Jones back in 1969. | ||
| Jones was found dead in his pool and the circumstances surrounding the death have been the stuff of conspiracy theory and conjecture ever since. | ||
| Occam's Razor tells us that he was a completely insane drug addict rock star in the late 60s who was on a path of increasingly self-destructive behavior. | ||
| And him getting fucked up and drowning in his pool accidentally isn't that surprising as a possibility? | ||
| Come on! | ||
| In that time period? | ||
| Who else was doing anything like that, Dan? | ||
| That's so crazy! | ||
| That idea that he would be doing that out of control. | ||
| Give me 38 other examples of people who died at 33. He's 27. He's part of that club. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you have the fact also in this case that someone made a deathbed confession that they drowned him. | ||
| And all sorts of other side theories about satanic rituals and feuds with Keith Richards and Mick Jagger fly around all over the place. | ||
| All of it's fascinating stuff, but ultimately it's not a story I can really disentangle for you. | ||
| Except to say that I think this is what Alex is combining with Altamont to turn it into a story about the Rolling Stones killing a black child at their home. | ||
| And there's something about... | ||
| There's something about the globalists. | ||
| Also, he doesn't put it that way. | ||
| He says he almost blames the victim again. | ||
| Like, there's something about black people. | ||
| I don't know what it is, but it's their fault that the globalists love killing them. | ||
| They're just too appealing to the globalists as murder victims. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
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| Yeah, that's weird. | ||
| That's a weird one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I don't exclude the possibility that there is some urban legend story about the Rolling Stones that I just can't find. | ||
| But it makes too much sense that these two elements come from two different stories. | ||
| Because that Brian Jones story is very... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In conspiracy theory worlds. | ||
| So he's absolutely aware of it. | ||
| And Ultimat is a huge thing that happened in their career. | ||
| And Alex isn't really big on details. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| God, when I die, I'm going to make so many deathbed confessions. | ||
| There's no reason not to. | ||
| I really think that you shouldn't. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| If only for preserving the non-confusion of people. | ||
| I did 9-11. | ||
| Those are my last words, Dan. | ||
| Yeah, Leo Zagami is going to come in and finish you off if you do that. | ||
| So, I got bad news. | ||
| You're not going to get to have a deathbed confession because robots are going to take over and they're going to kill everyone off. | ||
| A lot of folks are cowards. | ||
| They think, well, I'll just join with it. | ||
| I'll be safe. | ||
| No, you'll be destroyed. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because this craziness is going to run until billions are dead. | ||
| And we're going to have to worship the robots. | ||
| That's all in the Bible. | ||
| And they're all announcing they're going to have more rights than us. | ||
| And they're all going to say they're gods. | ||
| And it's all a big delusion. | ||
| And that it's all going to fall in one hour. | ||
| Just like a computer would. | ||
| It's going to go... | ||
| And then billions are going to starve to death. | ||
| In an hour? | ||
| And then any globalists hiding in their underground bases are going to be dug out. | ||
| Dug out. | ||
| Dug out of their holes. | ||
| All of this will happen before this generation's dead. | ||
| Watch it happen, Tom Pappert. | ||
| God, I want that more often. | ||
| I think I kept that in just for that end there. | ||
| That needs to be a regular thing on every TV show. | ||
| Billions of people are going to starve, and then we're going to dig the globalists out of their hole and kill them. | ||
| This is going to happen in our generation. | ||
| It will happen. | ||
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How say you, Tom Pappert? | |
| No, I want that to be how people throw to a weatherman. | ||
| Local news, just like, in the news today, billions of people are going to die tomorrow. | ||
| Everything's going to end in an hour. | ||
| We are going to kill our enemies. | ||
| Alright, Dan, over to you with weather. | ||
| It's even more brusque than that, though. | ||
| Just be like, Dan! | ||
| It's so fucked up. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| What does Tom Papert have to add to that? | ||
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Not only that, but Alex, we're going to have fun killing the globalists. | |
| Are we doing yes and? | ||
| Yes, that's basically what they're doing. | ||
| So anyway, their plan is to kill everybody, which Alex reiterates in this next clip. | ||
| But he also makes a claim that I would love for him to prove. | ||
| I want to read his Bible, because it seems so much more interesting than the one I grew up with. | ||
| They say it's being built to make you obsolete and extinct humans by this generation. | ||
| NBC News, the plan is to kill you. | ||
| They're already killing your fertility. | ||
| They're already lowering your IQ so you can't fight. | ||
| Yep, that's exactly right. | ||
| But let me tell you, you're aware of this? | ||
| And ask God for guidance? | ||
| Literally, God comes in and it boosts your IQ. | ||
| You don't have to be possessed by a demon and want to rape kids and think, wow, this is amazing. | ||
| You can actually have God come into you. | ||
| You Satanists don't understand anything and how powerful God is. | ||
| You couldn't even handle it. | ||
| Believe me. | ||
| You're absolutely right. | ||
| Right about everything, Alex. | ||
| God, what a fucking toady. | ||
| Even if you love him, Jesus Christ. | ||
| It's pretty sad. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| I would love for Alex to substantiate in any way that accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior has a demonstrable effect on your IQ. | ||
| No, I'm pretty sure it does. | ||
| Because that's the claim he's making. | ||
| You become a Christian, your IQ goes up. | ||
| It's science. | ||
| Actually, it's not science. | ||
| It's faith, Dan. | ||
| And I know that I know that I know. | ||
| I would love to see a study on this. | ||
| I'd love for Alex to in any way back this up. | ||
| He can't, and he's just talking shit. | ||
| But this is, you know, we've already seen shades of pretty white nationalist, white supremacist-ass thinking, and now we have this wrinkle of, like, real Christian supremacy. | ||
| Like, he's indicating in some way that there is a substantive difference between you the minute before you become a Christian and after from a, like, And he doesn't even bother with the whole baptism angle of, like, you go down under the water and then you come back up smarter. | ||
| It's just like, hey, I'm going to be cool with Jesus. | ||
| Bam! | ||
| I'm a genius. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I would say that, I mean, Alex is an example of somebody who has done all of the steps towards this Christianity that he believes in. | ||
| He is absolutely someone who would be an example of the after. | ||
| Well, take a look. | ||
| I don't see a very smart person here. | ||
| Absolute proof. | ||
| Jordan, this next clip is a game. | ||
| What game? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's going to talk about how he talked about Fantasy Island and then he started getting a bunch of Fantasy Island ads on his phone. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I want you to listen to this clip very intently. | ||
| And after it's done, tell me if you can guess my theory about why he's talking about this. | ||
| Two weeks ago, I said, watch. | ||
| In the room, I said, let's talk about Fantasy Island. | ||
| And then a few days later, everybody goes, yeah, Fantasy Island popped up in my... | ||
| Yahoo feed, my Google feed on YouTube. | ||
| I've never even talked about that in my life. | ||
| And I'm like, yeah, look, it's all Fantasy Island. | ||
| Because we had a conversation about Fantasy Island. | ||
| Today I was hiking with my wife and I said, watch. | ||
| Okay, and the phone was off. | ||
| And I said, watch. | ||
| I'm going to say racist stuff. | ||
| And you watch while we're hiking. | ||
| The phone is going to go boop and turn on. | ||
| And I started saying it as a test. | ||
| And she goes, oh my God, it turned on. | ||
| And it was sending data. | ||
| It was recording. | ||
| And you're like, what if it's, again. | ||
| Folks, it's incredible. | ||
| I did that as a test. | ||
| Do you know what my theory is? | ||
| He said some racist shit and then found out that his phone was on and he was on a butt dial or something like that? | ||
| Either that or he looked over to the side and saw someone there and needed to get ahead of the story. | ||
| In case someone was like, I was hiking and Alex was yelling the N-word at his wife. | ||
| That is... | ||
| I hear that is such a cover. | ||
| That is the weakest cover, too. | ||
| I was being real racist out on a hike with my wife. | ||
| No. | ||
| And I am really fucking worried that I need a context for this. | ||
| I wasn't being racist. | ||
| I was demonstrating what a racist would do. | ||
| And how it turns on your phone when you're racist. | ||
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See? | |
| There you go. | ||
| I proved it, everybody. | ||
| I'm not actually racist. | ||
| I was demonstrating racism. | ||
| It's a completely different thing. | ||
| What, are you going to edit Tom Sawyer now and Huckleberry Finn, huh? | ||
| Yeah, I think this is cover. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 100%. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I would suspect he even made up this Fantasy Island story in order to allow him to make this cover story for his racist outburst along with his wife while hiking. | ||
| Jesus fucking Christ. | ||
| Yep, that's what I see there. | ||
| So Alex starts freaking out a little bit about his court case, which I understand why he would do that. | ||
| It doesn't look great for him on a lot of fronts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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But then it goes exactly the direction you'd expect. | |
| They're of their father, the devil. | ||
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Sure. | |
| The Clintons, all of them, look at them. | ||
| Thank God you're not with them. | ||
| I'm ready to die for Christ. | ||
| I'm not scared of Blumenthal. | ||
| I'm not scared of Hillary. | ||
| I'm not scared of Obama. | ||
| I'm scared of not being with God. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I'm not sure. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, God always provides just what we need. | ||
| I'd like to have a bigger war chest to really expand. | ||
| Go get our products. | ||
| 50% off right now when you get Rain Force with our new Chill Force. | ||
| That isn't a depressant. | ||
| It's not a depressant. | ||
| That is... | ||
| Well, obviously it's not a depressant, or at least it has a small half-life because he is not on Chill Force anymore. | ||
| Yeah, that's... | ||
| I mean, that's pretty... | ||
| We were talking about sacrilegiousness a little bit earlier, and I think that's in that conversation. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| You think there might be some money changing in the temple going on, Dan? | ||
| Screaming about how I'm only afraid of God. | ||
| I will die! | ||
| Three second pause. | ||
| Three hundred thousand dollars. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Three second pause. | ||
| And then, you know, I'd love more money. | ||
| Ah, products. | ||
| Buy them products. | ||
| And then you, too, can fight for Christ. | ||
| So, at this point, Tom Papert is out of the mix. | ||
| And Alex gets Owen Schroer in studio. | ||
| And this just becomes an incredibly disgraceful punching homeless people section. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| It just becomes them like yelling about homeless people pooping on the street. | ||
| That's really a lot of what they're talking about. | ||
| And it's not worth talking about for the most part, except a couple of really weird things Alex says. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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And here's the first one of like, he has a theory about why people are Oh, no. | |
| And then the city council decided to amend a city ordinance in July, saying it's now legal to camp out on the city sidewalk, poop on the city sidewalk, sleep on the city sidewalk. | ||
| Including people's houses. | ||
| Anything you want to do. | ||
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It's all good now. | |
| In front of businesses, restaurants. | ||
| You'll just pull up at the restaurant and there's just eight people laughing at you, shooting up heroin, pooping everywhere. | ||
| And so this is going on, but it seemingly happened overnight. | ||
| You understand? | ||
| It's a spiritual invasion force, though. | ||
| The left doesn't just cater to it and make money off of it and skim the cash. | ||
| These higher-level demons don't materialize until their gremlin force is there. | ||
| So it's like for each major demon possession that happens, I think, they have a certain number of gremlins, humans that carry lower servant demons. | ||
| So I think that's why the left brings all this in and celebrates it, is to get the servant demons into position so that they can bring in a heavy hitter. | ||
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Yeah, and it's kind of a... | |
| By the way, I'm not kidding. | ||
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I think it's important that he's not kidding. | |
| That's an important clarification that I'm not fucking around here. | ||
| They bring in lower servant demons, which you heard that and went, what the fuck is he talking about? | ||
| Just to be sure, I'm not joking about it. | ||
| I am dead serious about low-level demons being needed in order to bring in a high-level demon. | ||
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Oh my god. | |
| Yikes. | ||
| You know one of my huge things is don't fucking talk about the homeless. | ||
| Well, especially in abusive ways that are so reductive and especially blaming people for their experience of homelessness when largely there have been a lot of studies that have been done about systemic reasons that a lot of people are in the situations they're in. | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| It's disgraceful and awful to have people... | ||
| Especially people like Alex. | ||
| Take such a target of a vulnerable population. | ||
| And I think that's why they do it. | ||
| And Owen does too, because he's cool bro Alex. | ||
| That's so fucking... | ||
| How do you not look at that and go... | ||
| This is clearly a structural issue that we are all failing these people. | ||
| Instead, they look at it and they're like, look at those people! | ||
| They're lower servant demons! | ||
| Fuck off! | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty wild. | ||
| But, I mean, in Alex's defense, I say facetiously, he is also coming from a place of the homeless have wronged him. | ||
| Oh, fuck me. | ||
| And I believe this story that he tells to be not true. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I don't know that it's true. | ||
| I was saying something racist to a homeless person in the forest. | ||
| It would be literally impossible for me to get to the bottom of this, but I've never heard him bring this up before, and it doesn't sound true. | ||
| I mean, my cousin in Seattle got bitten by a homeless person. | ||
| He was giving a 10. He worked for Microsoft. | ||
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And then he became homeless? | |
| Making $300,000 a year. | ||
| He was giving a $10 bill. | ||
| $10 bill. | ||
| To a homeless person, another one bit him. | ||
| He got a blood infection, had liver failure, and it took him a few years to die. | ||
| But a homeless zombie killed my cousin. | ||
| I don't know about this story. | ||
| I don't know about this story. | ||
| That sounds like it would actually be a national news story if that were true. | ||
| Wouldn't it be fucking... | ||
| And it's Alex Jones' cousin! | ||
| Of course it would be a national news story! | ||
| He would never shut up about it! | ||
| And he's a $300,000 a year software developer in Seattle. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| It seems like something that would leave a trace of something, and I can't find anything about it. | ||
| I tried to Google various terms, and I can't, I don't know. | ||
| I can't figure this out. | ||
| But it does not seem true. | ||
| No, because that's a literal zombie story! | ||
| Of course it would be national news! | ||
| Every media organization would be like, affluent white man dies of bite. | ||
| Like that, yeah. | ||
| A couple years later. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So Alex has a personal grievance, and I think it's not true, but he is very creative. | ||
| I'll give him that. | ||
| His big thing that he is pushing for towards the end of this episode is, look, you know, the globalists are bringing in the homeless people to shit on the street in downtown, so why don't we send them to the city council members' houses? | ||
| Now, this is all good and well to sort of joke about, but what Alex is describing is a targeted harassment campaign, which is kind of what he's getting sued for right now in the Sandy Hook situation. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| The way he conceptualizes this, and the fact that in this next clip he will say, I'm going to pay homeless people to go to their houses, could get him in trouble if he pursues this plan. | ||
| But I'm serious. | ||
| I think we should find where all the city council members that voted for this, and I think we should encourage and go online, because the homeless are all on iPads and phones they're given, too. | ||
| We should invite everybody and say we're going to have free barbecue at their house, and then we should give them money to camp in front of their houses. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's the operation. | ||
| We will bring the scum of the earth to their house. | ||
| That's really disgusting. | ||
| The scum of the earth to their house. | ||
| Yeah, that's really disgusting in its framing, its conception, but it's also like that is legally iffy. | ||
| And, I mean, Owen is in there with him, and at one point he does say like... | ||
| I think that might be illegal. | ||
| About one of Alex's ideas about... | ||
| Oh, no, because he's saying... | ||
| See, that's why you've got to have Papert on. | ||
| He's saying we could have them poo on a city council member's car. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Owen's like, I think encouraging that might be a crime. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So it's just like... | ||
| That's no wonder you get pappered on there, because he's going to be like, I'll poop on that car for you, Alex! | ||
| So would Barnes. | ||
| Tell me anything and I'll do it! | ||
| Well, actually, Owen and him were discussing how Owen should go to city council and shit on the city council. | ||
| And Owen's like... | ||
| Shit on the city council sidewalk, that kind of thing? | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| And Owen's like, I've done a lot of stuff for InfoWars. | ||
| Are you saying I gotta pull a tube? | ||
| Are you saying I gotta do a tube? | ||
| He almost seems like he's willing to be talked into it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But he's also making a joke. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| People to go harass folks. | ||
| He's in much shadier territory. | ||
| I've never said this before, because generally speaking, it's the worst thing that could happen. | ||
| But Owen Troyer definitely should have made a joke about this. | ||
| Generally speaking, when he jokes, it's the worst thing I've ever heard in my entire life. | ||
| You need to deflect this a little. | ||
| So I skipped Sunday, because I've noticed that Sunday episodes are a real waste of my time lately. | ||
| He's not even trying. | ||
| He sometimes doesn't show up. | ||
| It's just like... | ||
| It's not even worth it. | ||
| Even when he shows up, he's barely there. | ||
| He knows that almost no one's listening to his show on Sundays. | ||
| Well, they're too busy going to church and fighting lower servant demons of some sort. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So we jump in on Monday the 10th, and by this point the news had broken that there was a... | ||
| Potential meeting between Trump and Taliban leaders that had been canceled and there's a lot of brouhaha about that. | ||
| Alex does not care about that meeting at all. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| He doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| Does not want to start talking about the president and Taliban leaders in a room together. | ||
| I don't know what Alex's take on it should be. | ||
| I expected him to have a position, and he doesn't really seem to have a position. | ||
| Because I think it's overwhelmed by the fact that John Bolton got fired. | ||
| And so Alex is more into that angle. | ||
| And doing research on this whole kettle of fish that has been the Taliban invited to Camp David, and then did Trump cancel it, or did somebody else cancel it? | ||
| The word is that Mr. Bolton, Likes to leak stuff to the press. | ||
| And that is why he is out. | ||
| The man is a neocon. | ||
| The man is a warmonger. | ||
| The man has serious issues. | ||
| And I respected the president enough that I've not made a huge issue out of it because the president overall has had good policies and obviously wasn't listening to Bolton who would have us in World War III if he could. | ||
| I'd like to take you back to the day that John Bolton was named National Security Advisor and hear Alex's take on it. | ||
| I was waiting for it. | ||
| At that point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We got Roger Stone popping in to give us his take on Donald Trump's new National Security Advisor, Mr. Bolton, who a lot of people really don't like, including myself. | ||
| Because he still pushes the failed Iraq war and other things like that. | ||
| But the word is on Bolton, he knows all the connections, he knows all the players in the State Department, in the UN, in the Pentagon, and that he will be an apparatchik or a tool, an effective munchkin, to use his words. | ||
| To carry out the policies that the president once carried out, and then he won't sit there and leak information. | ||
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Whoops. | |
| That's specifically the opposite of Alex's claims now. | ||
| So good. | ||
| So here's just a little bit more from that episode, just to reinforce that it was Roger Stone telling him, like, hey, Bolton's cool, man. | ||
| And Stone absolutely lying to him about whatever Bolton was... | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Roger Stone, who's friends with... | ||
| The new national security advisor. | ||
| Good friends with him. | ||
| They drink whiskey and play poker together for 30 years. | ||
| So he'll be giving us his take on him. | ||
| He likes Bolton. | ||
| And he says Bolton is an apparatchik. | ||
| And that means he will follow Trump's orders and will not leak and is dog-like in his loyalty. | ||
| So that's the case, even though I disagree with some of Boyle's views. | ||
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Boyle? | |
| Then I trust the president. | ||
| Danny Boyle. | ||
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Right. | |
| The director? | ||
| He didn't like... | ||
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The beach? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| All these things that Alex is saying in the present day about John Bolton were well known when Trump brought him into the administration. | ||
| All these negative things. | ||
| He's a neocon. | ||
| He's a warmonger. | ||
| As we heard, those are all points that Alex brought up and denied. | ||
| He didn't deny that they were true, but they weren't that important. | ||
| He's going to work for Trump. | ||
| He's an apparatchik. | ||
| He's a useful tool. | ||
| He's an idiot who's going to kick people to the curb should they need such. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And it's all Roger Stone. | ||
| Roger Stone tricked Alex, and Alex in turn tricked his audience into being okay with it, and now Alex is saying the opposite. | ||
| He knows he has a really naive, gullible audience, and Roger Stone exploited them through Alex. | ||
| What's great about this narrative flip is that now Alex gets to pretend that John Bolton was responsible for all sorts of things. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| the problem. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And so we get to see that all over again, kind of. | ||
| And Alex gets to pretend that... | ||
| Because, I mean, okay, if you want to talk about, like, the strictest interpretation of things, Alex did say negative things about Bolton when he got... | ||
| Of course! | ||
| But he also He overcame those bad things because of Roger. | ||
| Strange. | ||
| So now he gets to pretend that, like, hey, I said those negative things about him back then and pretend that he didn't try and make it okay that Bolton was being nominated. | ||
| He's having his cake and eating it, too. | ||
| So now we learn in this next clip that Trump has a temper, which is not something that Alex has talked about all that much in the past. | ||
| But this doesn't sound good. | ||
| And I can tell you that Trump is screaming at people. | ||
| Screaming at them. | ||
| Which, believe me, that goes on behind the scenes at the White House. | ||
| A lot of screaming. | ||
| It looks very composed and very together out in public, but behind the scenes, Mr. Volcano. | ||
| He's either super slick and nice and friendly, or he starts screaming at people and telling them they're idiots and they're morons and they're incompetent, and that's what Trump does. | ||
| Alpha male characteristic, not obviously fun for those around it, but Trump really is trying, really does care. | ||
| That's exactly the way he describes Hillary Clinton in private. | ||
| She yells at people. | ||
| I do understand, but it's so funny to me that he can go and just for years, he's been screaming about how Hillary Clinton yells at people behind the scenes, and he can turn around and be like, you know, hey, with Trump, it's one of those things. | ||
| He's a volcano. | ||
| It's alpha male behavior. | ||
| He really cares. | ||
| And then with Hillary, it's proof she's a demon. | ||
| It's crazy to me. | ||
| Well, I mean, Trump is a man. | ||
| And Hillary is not. | ||
| So it's okay for Trump to do this. | ||
| So now we've got the trifecta of white things, Christian supremacy, and male priority. | ||
| Yeah, man, if Alex knows that, it sure seems like he really believes that story that Trump's second wife in her memoir told. | ||
| Oh, maybe. | ||
| Yeah, I think he probably believes that. | ||
| It sure sounds like it fits with his... | ||
| Pattern of behavior. | ||
| He's very smooth, or he's screaming at you, calling you an idiot. | ||
| Which also just sounds like a terrible person to be around. | ||
| Yeah, of course it does. | ||
| Because he's a terrible person and a fucking rapist. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex talks about the... | ||
| He gets into some drag... | ||
| Queen story time issues. | ||
| We still doing that? | ||
| Yeah, and I think there's actually, there's something a little bit worth pointing out in this clip. | ||
| I don't want to belabor this since we talked about it when he's covered it a bunch of the past, but I do think there's a slightly side issue that's important. | ||
| In major newspapers, like the Wichita Kansas Eagle, they're like... | ||
| Oh, local parents, when they take the kids on the field trip in elementary school to the library to sit on the lap of drag queens, they want background checks done. | ||
| That's homophobic. | ||
| We're not going to do background checks, is the question. | ||
| They won't even do background checks when the law says everybody else at the library has to have it. | ||
| You see? | ||
| And it turns out a large portion are convicted pedos. | ||
| Of course they are. | ||
| The two running, the Houston one, were both convicted child rapists. | ||
| One raped a six-year-old brutally, another an eight-year-old. | ||
| So, look, here's the thing. | ||
| The story that Alex is talking about is naturally being presented, like the Wichita stories, being presented with zero context. | ||
| And honestly, I think what he's doing kind of is close to something that could be legally actionable as slander. | ||
| So the Wichita story involves a library floating the possibility of specifically running background checks for sex offenses only on participants in the Drag Queen Story Hour. | ||
| Now, this obviously is an issue for a number of reasons. | ||
| The first is that any real background check they would be doing would turn up sex offenses. | ||
| So this is kind of redundant and targeted framing of the issue. | ||
| By publicizing that they're specifically running background checks for sex offenses for participants, the outcome is that people couple the idea of drag queens and the LGBTQ community as a whole as being related to sex crimes. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| We have to investigate specifically these people for specifically this issue. | ||
| I'm not saying that these people are specifically geared towards committing this specific issue, but you draw the conclusion. | ||
| It's my understanding from looking into this a bunch, since Alex won't stop talking about it, that most library systems do routine background checks on people who are running events for children. | ||
| And I think that's probably an appropriate thing to do, regardless of who the person is running the event. | ||
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| If it's a drag queen story hour or a Second Amendment reading shoot nanny, as long as the policy isn't selectively enforced and used as a means of marginalization, it feels like it's the library's right to do that. | ||
| It doesn't feel like that is what the policy is about in Wichita, however. | ||
| This does feel like it's selective and meant to target the LGBTQ community, as evidenced by released library minutes from a meeting reflecting that this proposal was brought to the table by a noted anti-LGBTQ pastor named Craig Coffey. | ||
| He seems to be interested in the targeting and marginalization side of this possible policy. | ||
| Quote from Craig. | ||
| I would like to target and marginalize these certain types of group. | ||
| How do we go about doing that? | ||
| From the Minutes, quote, He goes on to say, | ||
| quote, I was making up. | ||
| My quote. | ||
| But it turns out that I should have gone a lot further. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is not a man who's concerned with whether or not the drag queen's telling stories or sex offenders or not. | ||
| He wants them to be gone from society, or at least to stay in the back alleys, seedy porn houses, and dark closets. | ||
| He's against their existence, particularly in public, and their inclusion in a larger society, so he wants to create as great a campaign against them as possible. | ||
| That's the motivation behind a campaign like the one he's engaged in. | ||
| Stir up a bunch of shit about sex offender background checks about these people and whether or not you find any offenders, you will have succeeded in associating the story hour participants as being sex offenders. | ||
| This is really shady shit, particularly when the motivation is so clearly just to make members Absolutely. | ||
| Coffee runs a church called the Refiners Family Church in Derby, Kansas, which is 12 miles outside of Wichita. | ||
| Oh, so it personally affects him greatly, I assume. | ||
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| It's his personal library. | ||
| He drives 12 miles to go to that specific library, I assume. | ||
| I mean, Derby is a town of over 22,000 people and has a library large enough that it's mentioned in its Wikipedia page about the city. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, he likes that Wichita library. | ||
| So, I mean, it's pretty cool that this out-of-town preacher is making what a library in a city he doesn't live in his business, but I guess that's the culture war. | ||
| I think it's because of them that I have to drive 12 miles to a library that I don't... | ||
| Visit. | ||
| His church doesn't have its own building. | ||
| They meet in a room they rent in the Derby Golf and Country Club, which I will say, from everything I can find, the church is a bit polarizing. | ||
| A church in a golf club is even more literally money changers in the fucking temple! | ||
| So the church seems a little polarizing. | ||
| There's a site called Church Finder where people can leave reviews of church. | ||
| And there are two reviews of this one. | ||
| And they are, quote, Thank God this church is not a gay bar. | ||
| And another one, quote, Come as you are unless you're gay. | ||
| It strikes me as this might be something this coffee guy talks about a lot. | ||
| This subject. | ||
| Sounds like it. | ||
| So, from there, what you've got is this guy who has a clear anti-LGBTQ stance and is against them, puts forth this motion in the library meeting, and from there... | ||
| If you read what Coffey is suggesting to the library board, it's very clear that he's a gigantic homophobe and someone who's worried about the, quote, gay agenda. | ||
| So it would make sense that if you're on that board, you might not want to go along with everything he's saying. | ||
| If the board is at all resistant to his message and his demands... | ||
| It's so easy for the blogs and shithead websites to frame the situation as something like, quote, Kansas Library Board divided on whether to let sex offenders present to children. | ||
| No fucking way. | ||
| Which is a real headline. | ||
| Go fuck yourself. | ||
| From LifeSite News. | ||
| Go fuck yourself! | ||
| Right. | ||
| God! | ||
| Damn it! | ||
| Ultimately, the reality is if this were a Bible reading or Second Amendment book shoot nanny, none of these people would even suspect or be concerned about the possibility that one of the presenters might be a sex offender. | ||
| They're only concerned because of their pre-existing bigotry towards the LGBTQ community. | ||
| Perhaps the ultimate irony is that all of these people are right-wing, anti-state people, and they're demanding that the state run background checks on people, which I believe I've heard called tyranny when it's done in related to gun purchases. | ||
| I hate these people so much because this is... | ||
| This is the same group of people who are like, white male Christians are being specifically targeted and harassed and they're being treated as a minority and they're trying to kill us all. | ||
| At the same time, I would like everybody here to target this minority and treat them like the awful people that they are and so on and so forth. | ||
| And it's like, fuck you. | ||
| Just shut. | ||
| Just don't even talk. | ||
| Just screech. | ||
| Because that might as well be what you're saying. | ||
| You don't mean anything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Confusing and not confusing. | ||
| So we've gone over this, but the case in Houston that everyone relies on to be like, there are sex offenders. | ||
| And Alex is exaggerating, too. | ||
| There have been tons of them. | ||
| As far as I can tell, there are these two in Houston. | ||
| It was a situation where background checks are already required for all people who hold events at the library, but the library didn't follow their own procedures in this case. | ||
| The only real angle of outrage that you should have is be upset that the library didn't do their job. | ||
| And in this case, again, the publicity surrounding the event was not led by people who were concerned with whether or not these people are sex offenders. | ||
| It was led by a group called Mass Resistance, who are an aggressively anti-LGBT group as a whole. | ||
| And their goal wasn't to make sure that the library is a safe place for children. | ||
| It's to marginalize a community. | ||
| The fact that these events have been going on all over the country for a while now, and this Houston situation is really the only one these people ever point to as justification for the contention that there are tons of pedophiles in the direct. | ||
| Queen story hours it you know it's all a big plot to get your kids that kind of leads me to believe that they're wrong yeah You have aggressively interested parties like mass resistance and tons of anti-LGBTQ organizations pouring over criminal databases and sending out FOIA requests. | ||
| So you'd definitely be seeing way more stories if they found anything. | ||
| The issue for Alex, where I think that he's getting himself into trouble, possibly, legally, is that he's speaking in specifics that don't really match reality. | ||
| The leaders and organizers of the Houston chapter are Trent Lira and Devin Will, and neither of them are sex offenders. | ||
| And in fact, they've discussed the revelations that people who had volunteered for their event had concealed their past actions from them candidly. | ||
| It was devastating for them, as they obviously didn't know about these convictions, and they'd followed the library's policies, and the library were the ones who failed up to hold their end of the bargain. | ||
| One important point is that when this story is covered, right-wing sites don't just use pictures of the drag queens. | ||
| Who were sex offenders. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| They used pictures of every drag queen there ever was. | ||
| Well, not necessarily. | ||
| They don't really... | ||
| But the point is that they don't really care whether or not they're using the picture of the right person. | ||
| And this has caused very serious issues. | ||
| From an article in the Houstonian Magazine by one of the Houston Chapter's founders, quote... | ||
| The most upsetting outcome is the hate Blackberry, that's one of the drag queens, is faced because of this controversy. | ||
| She's become the canvas onto which these right-wing pundits project their hatred and fear. | ||
| An African-American with a beard and a face full of makeup. | ||
| Breitbart.com has since misidentified her as the sex offender in question. | ||
| It isn't her fault. | ||
| She has a clean record and is one of the most prolific drag performers in the city. | ||
| She's done nothing wrong. | ||
| How could she have known when we invited her to read a story to a handful of children that it would evolve into death threats and national scorn? | ||
| How could any of us? | ||
| These are delicate issues, and they're being intentionally packaged as anti-LGBTQ propaganda by people like Alex. | ||
| It's disgraceful, it's bigoted, and probably, worst of all, it doesn't do anything to solve the issues that they're pretending to be concerned about. | ||
| They don't care about appropriate background checks. | ||
| Even if every drag queen or king was thoroughly vetted perfectly, they'd find some other association and accusation to lob at them. | ||
| Because it's not about background checks. | ||
| It's about their unwillingness to accept certain types of people being allowed to exist in society. | ||
| So yeah, give everyone background checks. | ||
| As long as it's universally applied, I don't see a problem with that. | ||
| I think that's actually a good thing. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| What is this, the fucking 70s? | ||
| Anybody's just gonna walk into a library and start reading to people? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But also, let's not forget to be very clear that people like Alex and all of these people should go straight up fuck themselves for their duplicitous actions in this case. | ||
| I don't care what you have to say, even if it's applicable, if you're making a bad faith argument. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't fucking care. | ||
| And this is entirely. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| The minutes for that are so revealing. | ||
| So revealing. | ||
| Because here's what you say. | ||
| If you're doing this, just say, I think we should have background checks for people who read here. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| And then you get away scot-free. | ||
| There's no reason to rant about the LGBTQ agenda. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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| As if that strengthens your argument. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because it doesn't. | ||
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No. | |
| If he walked in there and said, I think we should have background checks for everybody, they'd be like, I think that's a good idea. | ||
| Now, granted, you still have to sort of like understand that the only reason that conversation is even happening coming from this guy is because of his preexisting feelings and bigotries. | ||
| But, you know, like I said, most of the libraries that I've looked into that are related to any of these stories already have this rule in place. | ||
| If there is a library I think that's a good idea. | ||
| Then, absolutely, there should be a conversation that it should be. | ||
| It's kind of gross that the conversation is being spurred by this, but I think it's probably a very small number of libraries that don't already have this in place. | ||
| Whatever the case is, it's all dishonest framing, and it's all fucking stupid. | ||
| So anyway, we move along, and in this next clip, Alex, he's on some gun paranoia shit, and he lies quite a bit. | ||
| And I'm gonna get into... | ||
| This critical report that I have right here in my stack, there's going to be a forced blood test. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| On certain people in America. | ||
| And then, if the blood test says you've got a certain thing, they're going to take your guns. | ||
| Now, that's in the Wall Street Journal, hidden in plain view. | ||
| Remember, my specialty... | ||
| It's telling you what they're really saying in an article because I have the backstory. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| So that is a great way of meaning I can lie about whatever is in this article. | ||
| Remember, when I read you the article and it says the opposite of what I say. | ||
| That's my specialty. | ||
| My specialty is to tell you that what I say is what they actually meant to say, but they can't say it. | ||
| It's not a lie. | ||
| My specialty is being particularly convincing in my nonsensical, disconnected, disjointed worldview. | ||
| So this is legitimately bullshit. | ||
| What Alex is lying about is a new article discussing breakthroughs regarding post-traumatic stress disorder. | ||
| One of the difficulties with PTSD diagnoses involves the stigma that comes along with the condition. | ||
| Often patients are unwilling or resistant to disclose their symptoms for fear of being labeled crazy, which really only makes things worse. | ||
| A group of researchers set out to see if there were any indicators that they could find that would prove as an effective screen for physical markers of people suffering from PTSD, and their findings were recently written up in the latest issue of Molecular Psychiatry. | ||
| They found 27 chemical signatures, which, when combined with heart rate readings, were found to have an accuracy of 81% distinguishing whether a person had a pre-existing diagnosis of PTSD. | ||
| Oh, that's interesting. | ||
| So to explain, they had a group and it was double blind. | ||
| They didn't know which people were which. | ||
| But half of them had been diagnosed with PTSD and half hadn't. | ||
| And their test had an 81% accuracy in distinguishing between the two. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Which is really, really good. | ||
| It's very interesting. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| It's very clear, however, that, quote, the results aren't diagnostic, but instead serve to screen someone for how likely they are to have PTSD, which is to say that just testing positive with their set doesn't qualify as indicative of a diagnosis, just a sign that it's maybe something someone should explore more. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| There are pretty big limitations with their study, and they're clear about it. | ||
| Like, it's not a knock on the study at all. | ||
| It's just limitations of what they were able to do. | ||
| The sample pool of people they tested on were only 56 people, and they were all male combat veterans. | ||
| So it's unclear if these same chemical markers would be applicable to people in other populations. | ||
| But that's something that merits further study. | ||
| There'll need to be a ton more studies before this will ever be used in a clinical or diagnostic setting. | ||
| I really just want the media to never talk about any study that's published in a journal. | ||
| Like, unless it's done. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Well, this particular study is done, but it just requires further study. | ||
| No, exactly. | ||
| Unless they have, we've proven that we can do this, and it begins tomorrow at every hospital in the country. | ||
| Let's report on that. | ||
| But every other story is always like, we will continue to study this, and then you have people like Alex Jones making bullshit up about it. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, Alex is going to make up bullshit about whatever anyway. | ||
| They didn't come out with indications about this. | ||
| Or stories about this progress that's being made, quite frankly. | ||
| Alex would claim they're covering it up or something. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| God, I hate these people so much. | ||
| The thing is that Alex hears something like this. | ||
| And his first thought is that there's a blood test they're going to use to try and force everyone to take so they can get my guns. | ||
| And that's just abhorrent. | ||
| People who suffer from PTSD are living in a certain kind of hell. | ||
| And anything that can be done to get them the treatment they need to be able to live again is something very positive for them subjectively and for society objectively. | ||
| Alex doesn't care about alleviating the suffering of people who are truly experiencing something awful. | ||
| He doesn't give a fuck because his overarching paranoia doesn't allow him to. | ||
| That is monstrous shit. | ||
| I have nothing more to say about that other than boo. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| So Alex said... | ||
| The media lies about Trump, right? | ||
| You know that. | ||
| Do they? | ||
| All they do is lie about Trump. | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
| And that makes Alex love him more. | ||
| Okay, well that I do believe. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It makes you love Trump. | ||
| It makes you want to defend Trump. | ||
| Because all they do is lie. | ||
| It's like saying he had the Air Force stop at his airport and at his resort golf course in Scotland to make money. | ||
| Meanwhile, the Air Force decided to land at that airport that Trump doesn't own. | ||
| Then the Air Force officers decided to stay at the hotel because it's one place hippies won't spit on them. | ||
| I stay at Trump Hotel in D.C. because I'll shake a lot of hands at another hotel, but in many, I'll be basically thrown out of it. | ||
| I'll be harassed. | ||
| I'll be screamed at. | ||
| My food will be spit in. | ||
| I've got to hide out in the conservative ghetto over at the Trump Hotel. | ||
| I'm being sarcastic. | ||
| It's very, very nice. | ||
| Did he just do an ad for Trump? | ||
| Hotel properties? | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| Only place conservatives can be safe. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| I can definitely understand why Alex is trying to deflect this story about Trump's Scotland Hotel, the Trump Turnberry Resort. | ||
| If he dealt with it critically, it would really expose how much of a bootlicking hypocrite he's become. | ||
| The issue with Trump's hotel goes like this. | ||
| There is a refueling stop that could be made at the Prestwick Airport, which no one is claiming Trump owns. | ||
| However, he does have a hotel nearby, and if military or government personnel are more frequently stopping at that specific hotel without other good reason, it does tend to indicate that something corrupt is up. | ||
| No, it's because he, as the president, he cares so much about the military and the Air Force that he gives them free room and board at his hotels, right? | ||
| Not necessarily. | ||
| Oh, he doesn't? | ||
| In 2015, the military stopped at this airport for refueling 95 times. | ||
| So far this year, they've stopped there 259 times, and the increase doesn't seem to be related to an uptick in travel that would explain the rise. | ||
| Making matters more concerning, in 2015, there were only 40 overnight stays for personnel at that location. | ||
| Not the hotel, like at that airport. | ||
| Overnight stays required. | ||
| That number jumped when Trump was elected, and this year there have been 220 overnight stays logged, which is an over 500% increase in overnight stays at the airport that happens to be near one of Trump's properties. | ||
| But it's not like Trump had a business arrangement with Prestwick Airport, because that would be crazy. | ||
| I regret to inform you that Donald Trump does indeed have a business arrangement with Prestwick Airport. | ||
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| The Guardian, among other news outlets, have reported that Trump and Prestwick entered into an arrangement where Trump's resort offered cut price lodging for people flying into the airport. | ||
| And Trump would try to steer business toward Prestwick by way of making his resort a tourist attraction. | ||
| Both the airport and resort were losing money previously. | ||
| And what do you know? | ||
| Now they're not. | ||
| This is a case where it doesn't even really matter if Trump knows what's going on or is directing the increased traffic to Prestwick. | ||
| It legitimately doesn't matter because the appearance of impropriety is strong enough that this needs to stop. | ||
| The president has a pre-existing arrangement to help increase traffic to this airport and now that he's president, the military is stopping there way fucking more than it did before. | ||
| Whether this is the result of a coordinated corruption activity or not, it does not matter. | ||
| This is a consequence of having someone in office Jimmy Carter got rid of his peanut farm. | ||
| This is in the Constitution. | ||
| The document Alex professes to love so much. | ||
| And his actions here are directly working to subvert that. | ||
| He knows that Trump is profiting off being president, whether he's directing corrupt behavior or not. | ||
| And Alex doesn't care. | ||
| He supports it. | ||
| He claims the media covering a story like this is them lying about Trump, which is such through-the-looking-glass authoritarian propaganda that it's hard to even express what a fucking loser he's become. | ||
| He's carrying water for the president to be able to profit off his being the president. | ||
| Like, it's insane. | ||
| While still screaming all the fucking time about, Oh, the Constitution! | ||
| The people who love the Constitution most, the people who have a copy of it, a very small copy in their back pocket at all times, are watching the President shit on that Constitution, and they are eating it up. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| They are eating Trump shit-covered Constitutions. | ||
| It's so insane. | ||
| That is what they eat now. | ||
| So Alex gets a little despondent in the middle of this September 10th episode and starts talking about... | ||
| How there's very limited time left before it's all over for his peeps. | ||
| And then this gets weird. | ||
| I'm so mad. | ||
| Do you remember how much I screamed about how he should have been impeached on day one because he was already violating the Emoluments Clause? | ||
| That hasn't changed. | ||
| God, I hate these people so much. | ||
| I mean, it's the same thing with acclimating to Alex's extremism. | ||
| There's a sort of numbness that you get towards like, well, yep, it's always been. | ||
| I mean, you can't... | ||
| But this one's pretty fucking overt. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| But you can't... | ||
| It's amazing to me that if you just have an authoritarian white nationalist wing of the Senate... | ||
| You can never do anything for the authoritarian white nationalist grifter president. | ||
| I don't think that that's something we should be surprised by. | ||
| Yeah, no, of course not. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| But it's just, like, it's one of those things where we should probably rewrite that constitution if it's so easy to shit on it and force people to eat it. | ||
| Well, maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But either way, Alex is keenly aware that there is a date fast approaching where he and his team will be fucked. | ||
| And I think that's interesting, but I also think it's really interesting where he goes from there, which is a little bit petty. | ||
| By 2024, we're done. | ||
| They've got the numbers. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| Unless all conservatives get up off their asses. | ||
| And I'm talking about my family, man. | ||
| I've got some great family. | ||
| That still have farms and ranches and the whole nine yards. | ||
| They're just like, it'll never happen. | ||
| I want to slap them across the table. | ||
| I want to jump on them. | ||
| Because if they got involved, if they put their money into fighting this crap, we wouldn't be here. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| They could turn coal up their ass into diamonds. | ||
| The only thing they give their money to is Walmart that hates this country. | ||
| I'm telling you, all over East Texas, man, there's wealthy, well-to-do people. | ||
| I've got helicopters. | ||
| I know people who've got helicopters and own parts of huge tech companies. | ||
| And they go to the Kentucky Derby every year and they wear their big hats. | ||
| Well, they've got hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank. | ||
| Billions. | ||
| They're all just secure and they could turn diamonds in the crap. | ||
| That's what they've done. | ||
| The dish crapping all over the country. | ||
| You make me sick. | ||
| All you stupid so-called Republicans. | ||
| You're going to destroy this country. | ||
| You're the enemy. | ||
| I can't stand you. | ||
| I won't even be around my family anymore. | ||
| If you don't take action to save this country, then damn you to hell. | ||
| All of you! | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
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| I'm going to say... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Back me up on this if I'm right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The music choice might be incongruous. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| Maneater might be weird there. | ||
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Matter of a matter! | |
| Didn't he just describe it as he described his friends? | ||
| And family. | ||
| And family. | ||
| And they sounded a lot like what he described as the globalists, right? | ||
| Well, and it's only because they won't give him money. | ||
| Yeah, isn't it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Didn't he just describe the globalists? | ||
| And he was like, these are people that I hang out with all the time. | ||
| They got helicopters and they're super rich and they just give money to Walmart and they won't give me money and I'm pissed off about it. | ||
| They just want their money? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That is all that's about. | ||
| And Walmart hates America because they won't sell certain types of ammo now, obviously. | ||
| But that's all that's about. | ||
| That vitriol and that anger is really... | ||
| You can tell from what he's saying. | ||
| That's all about my family won't give me money. | ||
| My cousins are rich and I want their money and they won't give it to me. | ||
| Yeah, so that's funny. | ||
| Because that makes it funnier. | ||
| That's so funny. | ||
| But I think there's something really important that we need to talk about at the beginning of that clip. | ||
| Alex couldn't make it more clear that he's a white nationalist unless he just started screaming, I'm a white nationalist. | ||
| When he's talking about the idea that Democrats are going to have the numbers by 2024, he's not talking about some kind of political phenomenon. | ||
| He's explicitly signaling to the ethnic demographic anxiety crowd. | ||
| Most of the fears about whites becoming a minority are framed as being about the year 2045. | ||
| That's the year that's constantly cited as the point at which white people will make up just slightly less than 50% of the U.S. population, which of course is a fate worse than death to these people. | ||
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Well, absolutely. | |
| How will they continue to control everything and destroy it? | ||
| Some of this traces back to work put out by the Brookings Institute, who made this exact prediction in a report published last September. | ||
| The 2045 date is a big talking point, but if you look at the graphs of their projections, 2024 is also a very important point for people who are super invested in white identity. | ||
| That's the year that the white population will have an annual growth rate of 0%, meaning the birth and death rate will be equivalent. | ||
| This is an essentially important date for white nationalists because it's the turning point after which the white population will begin decreasing, which again is something that they don't see as a natural phenomenon in open societies as much as they see it as a prong in an international plan set out by evil globalists. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| This rant is about nothing except his demographic fears. | ||
| This is white panic embodied. | ||
| It's scary and sad on one level, but it's also kind of hilarious on another. | ||
| He's so afraid of white people not being the majority in the country that he completely flips out and starts screaming about how his rich relatives don't give him money. | ||
| It's the embodiment of pathetic, entitled bigotry. | ||
| If it's not, I don't know what is. | ||
| It's so overt to me. | ||
| I guess maybe the surviving Koch brother doing it? | ||
| That would be very pathetic narcissism. | ||
| Chuck! | ||
| Please. | ||
| So I think Alex is in bad shape financially and emotionally, and I think he's pretty clearly real into white business. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So this next clip I think is going to piss some people off, and understandably so. | ||
| And I keep this in because, you know, it's important to know what Alex believes, even if it's like, this is terrible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I find this to be pretty terrible. | ||
| So they were projections onto things that already existed and named real things going on. | ||
| He's talking about the beginning of psychiatric conditions and psychological conditions. | ||
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| These doctors came around and they pointed to real things, but they acted like they were new or something. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Then it gets worse. | ||
| But they acted like they had invented them. | ||
| As if bipolar really is a thing or schizophrenic, it really is a thing. | ||
| It's a whole bunch of things. | ||
| Are they poisoned? | ||
| Are they genetically inbred? | ||
| Are they really being influenced by something? | ||
| Is it a spirit? | ||
| Is it a dimensional program? | ||
| Why are the archetypes so strong, even beyond what's in our genetics? | ||
| There's an interface. | ||
| And they all know this, and so psychology, psychiatry, became a tool of oppression. | ||
| So, all the psychiatric conditions and all that shit, it's real, but it's probably poison, inbreeding, or demons. | ||
| Did he join Scientology or something? | ||
| Man. | ||
| What the fuck was that? | ||
| It's pretty crazy. | ||
| So, the entirety of psychiatry is based off of telling people who are either poisoned, genetically inbred, which, tell me more about genetical inbreeding, Alex. | ||
| Or possessed by demons. | ||
| So they tell those three groups, if not all three in the same person. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I assume I am all three of those. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They put a name on it. | ||
| They put a name on it, so they never go and solve that whole demon possession problem. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They can add new names. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They can oppress them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As opposed to giving them, I guess, an exorcism. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Or a massive amount of supplements. | ||
| I assume that would also help with these? | ||
| Which might give you lead poisoning. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I find that incredibly offensive just from a mental health standpoint. | ||
| I think it's really disgusting to behave this way. | ||
| Especially considering it sounds like somebody told him he had some sort of schizophrenia and he decided that he was actually just poisoned or possessed by a demon. | ||
| I guess you've got to do a cleanse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it's dangerous. | ||
| On the one hand, though, I actually kind of... | ||
| I mean, there's a kernel of, like, well, at least he believes conditions are real. | ||
| You know, like, at least... | ||
| It's such a sad state of affairs that, like, that is your, like, bright side. | ||
| Alex, the bar has been set so low! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You have finally jumped over it into a further middling... | ||
| Morass of garbage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he starts taking some calls at this point. | ||
| And this caller that he's talking to has a stupid idea. | ||
| And then it turns out that because of this stupid idea, Alex reinforces a stupid idea that we've covered in the past that Alex has put out. | ||
| And I kind of thought maybe he was going to let this one sit. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| This is something he really believes. | ||
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What Trump should do is forget about buying Iceland. | |
| He should buy Baja, man. | ||
| That place is sick. | ||
| It sure is nice. | ||
| Baja is amazing. | ||
| And expanding on all the whales and stuff on the coast, I've been there once. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| We need Greenland because of all the natural gas, all the oil. | ||
| We could probably get a deal for nothing. | ||
| Alex really believes we should buy Greenland. | ||
| They really want to buy Greenland. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Does he think that's how it works? | ||
| I do believe so. | ||
| He does kind of think you can just give all of Greenland money and then they give you Greenland? | ||
| Yeah, I thought that was just sort of like a stupid thing he said because he had a defending Trump news cycle. | ||
| Nah, it turns out Alex is pretty into the idea of expanding. | ||
| Yeah, because he could have just let that one go, man. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| So now we get Barnes up in the house. | ||
| Boo earns, is what I prefer to say. | ||
| Boo earns, as I say it. | ||
| The two of them get into a conversation about how the globalists were really just trying to buy time because they knew they needed to steal the 2020 election and all this shit. | ||
| Sure, sure, of course. | ||
| This is some hot bullshit, and it leads to one of the crazier things that cannot possibly be true that I've heard Alex claim. | ||
| And that's why he's accelerating action now, because he realizes their whole endgame was just to buy time, then get to 2020, manipulate 2020 to get the outcome they want, and then they don't have to worry about this anymore. | ||
| And that's why we harp on it, because if we don't have real communications, people aren't going to know that they're teaching six-year-olds, and I'm not joking, in library books, in public schools now, to go with men at parks, the bathroom, and have sex with them. | ||
| Now, obviously, they're not going to get away with that if we're on air to expose it. | ||
| That's the only reason they're not going to get away with it. | ||
| So Alex needs to be on air for that. | ||
| If Alex Jones is on air, there's one thing I know. | ||
| No one's going to have sex in a park. | ||
| Well, the globalists aren't going to be able to put those books in public school libraries that definitely exist. | ||
| The training manuals? | ||
| Of all the things I absolutely do not need to look up to tell you is not true, this is probably on the top of that list. | ||
| There is no public school that is teaching a book that encourages six-year-olds to go to park bathrooms with strange men and have sex with them. | ||
| That is absolutely 100% bullshit. | ||
| You know, and that's one of those fun things that disproves the infinite universe, you know? | ||
| Just because it is possible doesn't mean that it's going to happen. | ||
| No. | ||
| I decided to look it up anyway. | ||
| And while I can find no evidence that such a book exists... | ||
| I think I know what's going on here. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There was a 2015 law in California that recently went into effect that required schools to teach comprehensive sex education curriculum. | ||
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| And it includes material related to LGBTQ folks, so you know the right wing is doubly pissed off about it. | ||
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There it is. | |
| You can make whatever argument you want for or against the curriculum. | ||
| You can say that it's an important public health information. | ||
| I'll agree with you. | ||
| You can say that you'd rather teach your child that stuff at home, and I'll respect your parenting. | ||
| None of that matters. | ||
| Because the bill is very explicitly... | ||
| And the fact that it includes a provision where parents can opt their children out of the curriculum. | ||
| You don't want your child learning that stuff in school? | ||
| Problem solved. | ||
| This is a non-issue. | ||
| I read an article about this, and I assume what Alex must be talking about is some of the curriculum involves education about domestic abuse and sex trafficking. | ||
| So I imagine that he's taking a lesson or something in a book about how you shouldn't go to the bathroom with a stranger and arguing that it secretly is a way of trying to get children curious about going to bathrooms with strangers. | ||
| Remember, his specialty is telling you what they're really saying. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It makes no sense, but if you're used to listening to Alex, that's kind of how his brain works. | ||
| This article had some interesting comments on it. | ||
| Here's a definite stance that's taken by a definite non-bigot. | ||
| Quote, Cool stuff. | ||
| It's a good angle on this. | ||
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| So I assume this is what Alex is talking about since complaints about the curriculum are making the rounds a little bit in the right-wing spheres. | ||
| So it makes sense that he'd seen a misleading headline and decided to report it even more misleadingly. | ||
| But here's the larger point. | ||
| This is his first example he can come up with for why the world needs him to be on air. | ||
| If it weren't for him, no one would know this completely fake thing about a book telling kids to fuck strange men in park bathrooms and how it's evidence of the globalists trying to steal your children. | ||
| Alex is actually making a very compelling argument for why society needs him to not be on the air. | ||
| Right. | ||
| On the other hand, we wouldn't know about this if it weren't for him. | ||
| Again, this not true thing. | ||
| Yeah, but we wouldn't know about it. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| So, at this point, Alex, you know, I mean, like, Robert Barnes is, like, an expert in everything. | ||
| He's a really smart guy. | ||
| No, he is not. | ||
| He is smart. | ||
| He really isn't. | ||
| So he is maybe conniving. | ||
| The two of them get into a little bit of a bull session about who should replace John Bolton, right? | ||
| We've got to get a guy in there. | ||
| No. | ||
| And Alex earlier was ruminating on this point, and he had no ideas, which is weird. | ||
| Yeah, of course he doesn't. | ||
| He was sort of like kicking the can down the street by being like, let's get Boykin, see who he thinks. | ||
| Boy. | ||
| Let's see if Boykin's got a name. | ||
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All right. | |
| I'm going to go ahead and text Roger. | ||
| Oh, no, I can't do that shit. | ||
| Text Steve for check. | ||
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I can't. | |
| God damn it. | ||
| Do I know anybody else? | ||
| Because it turns out I don't actually know any names. | ||
| What about Skousen? | ||
| Will he talk to me anymore? | ||
| Is he around? | ||
| So Alex asks Barnes who he thinks should replace Bolton, and his answer is not good. | ||
| Golden, who do you think should replace him? | ||
| It needs to be, ideally, I would like him to go back to a Gorka type or someone that has populist, nationalist, realistic, realpolitik instincts in that space, to give him practical, strategic advice that is consistent with and consonant to his values. | ||
| So we're bringing in Gorka. | ||
| Gorka. | ||
| Gorka's our move. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Barnes, good work. | ||
| Good work, Barnes. | ||
| That's a sad, disgusting option for who you want to replace Bolden. | ||
| Let's get Sebastian fucking Gorka. | ||
| Yeah, and if you think Sebastian Gorka is giving you sane, reasonable advice on literally anything, I don't want to know... | ||
| I don't want a movie recommendation from Sebastian Gorka because it's going to be so fucking stupid. | ||
| So Alex now goes to a call and he asks this caller, or actually I think the caller just brings it up on his own. | ||
| He's got another suggestion of who needs to replace Bolton. | ||
| And this is interesting because it spirals super out of control really fast. | ||
| Alex is really excited about this idea. | ||
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What I'm going to talk about today is what I think we need is a constitutionally and very strict on that note based Oh, You know, somebody like Bill Benny who understands the Promise software, the Pegasus malware. | |
| he needs William Benny as his national security advisor. | ||
| That's genius! | ||
| Is it? | ||
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And I think what we need to be able to do is to have this task force operate outside of the establishment chain of command. | |
| Something like the Untouchables, if you will. | ||
| Well, that's what they did to clean up some of the third world countries, is they create a special military unit that the president and the attorney general support, who then goes and roots out the corruption. | ||
| That's one of the only models that works. | ||
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Did he just describe a fucking death squad? | |
| Oh, what we need is an extrajudicial fucking death squad that is able to act with impunity at the direction of the president. | ||
| He doesn't see it as a death squad, but it's almost parody for someone like him to not recognize how close that is to what he's suggesting. | ||
| Also, William Benny is a fucking Seth Rich truther and is an embarrassment. | ||
| He's a psychopath and a moron. | ||
| The idea that even his name would be thrown around. | ||
| By his collars, even, is ludicrous. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, great. | ||
| So, I assume he's going to be our next national security cousin. | ||
| Undoubtedly. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, the brain trust on InfoWars has got us. | ||
| Bolton's out. | ||
| Let's get Sebastian, Gorka, or fucking Binny in there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Great. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| What a... | ||
| Cut them both in half, sew them together, and let's have them both do it! | ||
| What a load of shit. | ||
| God, these people are stupid. | ||
| Terrible ideas. | ||
| So, our last clip here from September 10th is an indication of a new line of business that Genesis Communications Network is getting into. | ||
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Finally, hemp made easy, clean, and effective. | |
| GCNHemp.com. | ||
| They're selling hemp. | ||
| They're selling hemp. | ||
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Cool. | |
| Good job, guys. | ||
| Ted Anderson getting into the hemp game. | ||
| Actually, you know what? | ||
| I think it would be, I wouldn't be surprised if he just straight up sold drugs on the corner after he lost his fucking bouillon license. | ||
| I mean, he tried to go from that to like frozen beef. | ||
| It's just not. | ||
| And longevity stuff too, but it's just not. | ||
| And then, I guess, Jeunesse. | ||
| Jeunesse was largely motivated, clearly, by GCN. | ||
| Alex was only a pitch man for it. | ||
| He was a front man for GCN's involvement with Jeunesse, clearly. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Based on how things have shaked out. | ||
| But, yeah, I mean, fucking sell hemp. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| I'm actually surprised that they haven't gotten into the legal marijuana market. | ||
| It makes sense for them. | ||
| It's like a lateral move. | ||
| I don't know if that's legal in Minnesota. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's fair. | ||
| Except it's not a scam, I guess. | ||
| You could make it one. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Go for it, guys! | ||
| Stems and seeds. | ||
| You've got a chance. | ||
| So we get to September 11th, and I was expecting, like, this is just going to be... | ||
| Jingoistic 9-11, 9-11, 9-11. | ||
| Well, I thought it was going to be at least 9-11-ish. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| But I really quickly caught a theme that was going on, and that is that Alex is trying to turn 9-11 into his abortion narratives. | ||
| His argument seems to be throughout this is like, 9-11 was bad, but that was only 3,000 people. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So many more have died from abortion. | ||
| So we're going with materialism. | ||
| It was very weird to encounter. | ||
| So we get this first clip here, and Alex is talking about seeing abortion protesters. | ||
| And I've seen the videos that he's talking about. | ||
| I know this. | ||
| These are people fucking with him. | ||
| When people hiss at him and stuff like that, it's all hilarious. | ||
| So this is how he experiences it, whether sincerely or not. | ||
| This is how he packages that to his audience. | ||
| It happened three years ago that they were about to pass a law to ban partial birth abortion in Texas. | ||
| It didn't pass. | ||
| And hundreds of women showed up in business suits and began going, hail Satan, and sticking their tongues out like demons, and going, I mean, we'll play the video. | ||
| So, you have to understand, this is real. | ||
| And the devil wants children, and these people get spiritually high as a kite when they get possessed. | ||
| And you've got these dead, empty followers out there, and to them, this is the most alive drug they can get on. | ||
| And it's a drug. | ||
| It's not just for the elites digging out the pituitary gland and the adrenal glands out of the brain, out of the stomach. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| Bingo! | ||
| On top of the kidneys and eating them. | ||
| That's all admitted now. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| We told you 20 years ago. | ||
| So we've got adrenochrome shit going on again. | ||
| But also they eat kidneys. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Kidneys are... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gotta get those. | ||
| So, I mean, this is a load of shit. | ||
| But this, again, leads me back to that same distinction with Tom Pappert. | ||
| Like, with his Facebook post that he's pretending isn't people fucking around. | ||
| How much is Alex aware of the fact that these people are just fucking with him? | ||
| And then he just decides to pretend he doesn't understand that? | ||
| Or does he actually believe that these people were hissing and acting demonic at him? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I really couldn't say. | ||
| Because a rational human being would never think that these people were being serious. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he's not a rational human being. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But also a rational person with a malicious agenda would take that and be like, I can use this to my advantage really easily. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I think it's the latter. | ||
| I think he knows it's fucking fake. | ||
| Here's kind of my operating theory on the stupid v. | ||
| evil conundrum we often find ourselves in. | ||
| I think it starts out with him knowing that he's creating this false narrative. | ||
| He knows it's a joke. | ||
| He knows that he's creating a false narrative. | ||
| And I think eventually he winds up convincing himself that he's right. | ||
| That's kind of how I always feel like this goes. | ||
| So it's sort of like he jumps into the vat of goo intentionally, but once he's in there, he can't get out. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That could be. | ||
| That kind of makes sense to me from everything that we've... | ||
| It's the only thing that kind of... | ||
| Fits with him both being a huckster, a liar, and a lunatic. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, it could be. | ||
| It could be he convinces himself and just sort of autopilots a lot. | ||
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| Now, the centerpiece of Alex's abortion arguments that he's making, and really the pièce de résistance, is a new report that Paul Joseph Watson put out. | ||
| Oh, God, no. | ||
| Didn't he not work there anymore? | ||
| I think that that is either an intent... | ||
| I think that was their intention and that it didn't work. | ||
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Of course not. | |
| Because Alex needs him. | ||
| Or it was another attempt to find ways to have non-banned websites. | ||
| So Summit.News would be... | ||
| We present it as Paul has left and this is his own thing. | ||
| Because Paul's not banned on social media. | ||
| I think that might be what it is. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's really tough to say, but... | ||
| You could tell back when it was happening that either Paul Joseph Watson's the best actor in the world or he sincerely didn't want to be around Alex. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what to make of it. | ||
| I don't really care. | ||
| My point here, Jordan, is that I would never talk about a Paul Joseph Watson report if I didn't find something amazing about it. | ||
| Yeah, I know, because they're unlistenable. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| Here's Paul Watson laying out part of this in his report. | ||
| We'll play the whole report up, but here it is. | ||
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Did you hear about this new sexual fetish? | |
| Couples repeatedly getting pregnant, then having multiple abortions. | ||
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What a time to be alive! | |
| Question regarding abortions and breeding fetish. | ||
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I have a female friend who has a really powerful fetish for breeding. | |
| She has never used any type of birth control. | ||
| She is with a male partner currently, who is just like her, into breeding, and they've been practicing their fetish for quite a few abortions. | ||
| I know this fetish. | ||
| My girlfriend and me have the same fetish. | ||
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My girlfriend enjoy her pregnancies, and she enjoys the abort-a-ta-ta-tay-on. | |
| So, you know, he's doing some good voice acting there. | ||
| That was... | ||
| Spectacular. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I can see why he's very popular. | ||
| I think the main issue we have is that Wright is getting so good at humor. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So I found the source for what Paul Joseph Watson is reading here in his very powerful special report. | ||
| It's a year-old post on Reddit's r-sex board. | ||
| It's weird how he managed to find this post if he wasn't specifically looking for something to make a big deal out of and connect to a larger editorial decision to make 9-11 about abortion, which Alex is clearly doing. | ||
| Seems weird, considering the post is a year old, it only got 18 comments and was 50% downvoted, so there's no way it would ever pop up if you were just scrolling through Reddit. | ||
| He had to be actively searching for this. | ||
| Yeah, that's not good. | ||
| The reply comment that Paul is reading only got one upvote, and it's pretty far down the thread. | ||
| So he'd have to be selectively choosing this one to discuss because the rest of the comments could be summed up as, this is messed up, or I'm not sure I believe this story because people on Reddit make stuff up all the time. | ||
| and this would sound very expensive. | ||
| I'm going to go with the second one. | ||
| So most people generally don't think the comments on Reddit are really all that indicative of reality. | ||
| One of the good ways you can kind of get a sense about someone's sincerity, though, is to look through their post history. | ||
| If Paul Joseph Watson had done this, he might have had some journalistic reservations about considering this poster a credible source. | ||
| Don't understand. | ||
| Around the time they posted this question that Paul is reading about their friend who's into breeding, they also posted this gem. | ||
| If you're on birth control and let's say four to five males come inside you vaginally around the same time, does each male increase my likelihood of getting pregnant? | ||
| Or as far as you're on birth control, it doesn't matter how much. | ||
| I personally have a copper IUD, but I'm unsure if it's aimed at one male or also multiple. | ||
| Hilarious. | ||
| So funny. | ||
| This person sounds like an idiot at best. | ||
| And most likely a kid fucking around. | ||
| This is further indicated by another post from around that same time. | ||
| Quote, This is facile. | ||
| There is no reason to be laughing at this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We are grown adults. | ||
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No, I think it's because they used kinky three times in a sentence. | |
| I know! | ||
| It was ridiculous. | ||
| If you read the other posts this person has written, they all read like someone with very little experience trying to write erotica. | ||
| And I come away from it from a very strong sense that any journalist who would stoop to using this as proof of anything is an absolute hack. | ||
| They should be fucking ashamed of themselves. | ||
| I bet every journalist really kind of envies... | ||
| Paul Joseph's job. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because there's so little you have to do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You do not have to work. | ||
| The hardest part is editing, and he probably doesn't do it himself. | ||
| Of course he doesn't. | ||
| Like all the quick cuts and everything. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That would take a while. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So make no mistake about it, this is a real fetish, just not the getting tons of abortions part. | ||
| Like if Paul Joseph Watson did some deeper research on the scholarly website reddit.com, he would have found an Ask Me Anything thread from a girl purporting to have this breeding fetish, and she explains that she's on birth control. | ||
| Which is very common. | ||
| From the people that I've seen talking about it, they're able to imagine the situation as being one that leads to pregnancy and role play it a little bit. | ||
| But they aren't so irresponsible that they would get pregnant just for the sexual rush they'd get out of it. | ||
| And people have different reasons for enjoying the fetish, too. | ||
| If you look at the people who talk about this online... | ||
| For some, it's about a submissiveness. | ||
| Some see pregnancy as taboo, given their life circumstances. | ||
| Some men just really like how pregnant women look. | ||
| It's a big old world out there, even within just this one kink community. | ||
| This is a larger group of people who indulge in this fantasy, and for the most part, it doesn't seem like they're harming anybody. | ||
| Is it possible that there's a very, very small segment of the population that recreationally gets abortions? | ||
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No. | |
| Maybe? | ||
| But I don't see any evidence that this is the case. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| There's one case specifically that seems to be brought up a lot when people try to make this argument, and that goes back to a 2009 ABC News story about a woman named Irene Villar, who was a self-described abortion addict, who wrote a book called Impossible Motherhood. | ||
| However, to define her as just an abortion addict is a very unfair portrait. | ||
| Velar was the granddaughter of Puerto Rican nationalist Lolita LeBron, who stormed the U.S. House of Representatives with a gun back in 1954, which put her into jail for 25 years. | ||
| LeBron was sterilized as part of a program in Puerto Rico when she was 33, and that trauma lingered in her family as sort of a ghost that hung over everyone's reproductive life. | ||
| Her mother would go on to commit suicide when Velar was eight years old, leading to her going away to boarding school. | ||
| She then went to college at Syracuse and began an emotionally abusive relationship with a 50-year-old professor who was specifically opposed to children, saying having them kill sexual desire. | ||
| Most of the abortions that she got were during this period where she was in a relationship with this abusive professor. | ||
| Because I assume he also refused to use a condom. | ||
| It does appear so. | ||
| Any kind of birth control that he would have to participate in. | ||
| The way Villar describes her abortions is a form of self-harm. | ||
| And if you look at the larger portrait of her life, it's very easy to see that this is a person who suffered trauma in a very specific form that took this outlet. | ||
| It has very little to do with the larger picture of abortion access, and it's not indicative of a group of people who are serial abortion getters. | ||
| Outside of this one person, I can't really find any evidence of people who get a bunch of abortions compulsively. | ||
| Like, the idea that this is a large community of people who do. | ||
| Nor is there anyone from Planned Parenthood or any similar organization advocating for that. | ||
| This is a straw man that Paul Joseph Watson has created out of a year-old Reddit post that he's dug up and pretended is news, specifically for the purpose of attacking women's rights to control their bodies and medical decisions. | ||
| This is a pathetic display of journalism, because you've got to assume if he had something better, he wouldn't be using an obviously fake year-old Reddit post to make his argument. | ||
| Yeah, no shit. | ||
| Also, his boss has admitted that he's paid for at least ten abortions with different women, some of whom didn't want to get abortions, something that strangely doesn't seem to be unpacked in this weird diatribe. | ||
| He's not putting that one out there? | ||
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No. | |
| That's odd. | ||
| I mean, just the fucking stupidity of... | ||
| If that was a thing, and it was in the way that Paul Joseph Watson described it, not as a fucking byproduct of... | ||
| Horrible trauma. | ||
| For this woman. | ||
| For this woman. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I don't know if Paul even gets into that woman. | ||
| Oh, I'm sure. | ||
| I just assume he does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But in the parts that Alex plays, he doesn't even get into that. | ||
| It's all just this Reddit post. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I just wanted to be clear about that. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But even then, is there any way where that isn't its own news story? | ||
| A Planned Parenthood employee sees this same woman every month or whatever? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That would be national news. | ||
| I assume that she might have gone to different places. | ||
| And the right wing would exploit it. | ||
| Oh, you mean like other people than her? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Some employee at Planned Parenthood would absolutely talk to some journalist and they'd be like, we see Louisa every three, every six months, you know, or three months and it's been going on for 30 years. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I just think that this is like really disgraceful stuff. | ||
| Like, I, and also fucking hilarious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson and Alex spend all their fucking time talking about how they're the real news. | ||
| And they're the ones who are getting really to the bottom of it. | ||
| And Alex's big pageant that he's putting on for this 9-11 abortion spectacular, the centerpiece of it is Paul Joseph Watson's report that the primary source of for his argument that there is this new fetish that's coming around that involves everybody getting abortions is clearly fake shit that's a year old on Reddit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That he didn't look into. | ||
| He didn't even do the second step of looking into this, which would have been looking at the person's post history. | ||
| That's the easiest fucking thing to do in the world. | ||
| And then he would have seen all those fucking nonsensical posts. | ||
| Dan, do you not know how good journalism works? | ||
| What you do is you go looking for the story you want, and when you find any piece of evidence of that story, you stop looking. | ||
| See? | ||
| You found it. | ||
| That's fair enough. | ||
| It's not that you... | ||
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| See, and now the thing with Paul is you always know he's on the evil spectrum. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| There's no, there's pure intentionality behind his bullshit. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's far more, like, malevolent. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| So there's another big piece of this abortion spectacular that Alex puts on, and that is a news story about an Illinois hospital that he's telling. | ||
| But CNN doesn't tell you about this. | ||
| Illinois hospital created comfort room. | ||
| For aborted babies to die in. | ||
| Infants remained alive for hours after abortion procedure because the doctors said, well, the baby slipped out before we could suck the brains out. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And so we're just going to go put them in a room to die. | ||
| Doctors. | ||
| So this comfort room narrative is circulating in the right-wing media right now because a woman named Jill Stanek recently spoke in defense of the Born Alive Act. | ||
| And her words are being used by right-wing activists to fuel their campaign to get rid of women's rights. | ||
| She described these comfort rooms where pregnancies had been terminated, usually due to complications or genetic conditions that would leave the child unable to survive should it have been born, came out technically alive but not viable. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| What's interesting to me is that these articles about Stanek's comment, they generally include this line. | ||
| Quote, this incident prompted Stanek to end her employment at Christ Hospital. | ||
| Which obviously gives you the impression that she saw something horrible and then quit because she couldn't be around it. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| Jill Stanek was fired by Christ Hospital after she allegedly took pictures in areas that completely violated patient privacy and then, quote, misrepresented the hospital on television. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| She was fired by the hospital in 2001, two years after she began making public statements about these comfort rooms. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| These comments that she made recently are literally the exact same thing she said 20 years ago. | ||
| There isn't anything new here. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| I probably sound a bit flippant, but that's probably because her comments kicked off a little bit of drama, and the Illinois Department of Public Health ended up doing a formal investigation into her allegations and found that there was no wrongdoing on the part of the hospital. | ||
| She's someone who made a fantastical claim 20 years ago. | ||
| Then all these claims were looked into and found to be inaccurate. | ||
| She was fired by the hospital on the merits. | ||
| Then she started working for WorldNet Daily. | ||
| I'm not sure this is a source that I find to have much credibility, but Alex does, of course, because it works into what he wants to present. | ||
| He doesn't even deal really with the fact that this is like 20-year-old That's insane. | ||
| That's fucking insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wonder which doctor they quoted for that story saying, well, it just slipped out, so we figured we gotta have a room for it. | ||
| It was all her. | ||
| Yeah, that's a surprise. | ||
| That's a surprise. | ||
| There's a thing here that in the context of talking about this article about Jill Stanek's comments about things that she talked about 20 years ago, there's a real cruelty and brutality to what Alex... | ||
| is expressing towards the parents, or the would-be parents. | ||
| And in this next clip, I think he just crosses a line that is unbelievably unacceptable. | ||
| Parents of the baby are also allowed to hold it during this time! | ||
| Oh my gosh! | ||
| If staff did not have the time or desire to hold the baby, she was taken to Christ Hospital Comfort Room, which is complete. | ||
| With a first photo machine if parents wanted professional pictures of their aborted baby. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Did you hear that? | ||
| Complete with a first photo machine if parents wanted professional pictures of their aborted baby, baptismal supplies, gowns and certificates, foot printing equipment, and baby bracelets and mementos, and a rocking chair. | ||
| Because you didn't want it! | ||
| So you took it and fantasized it, but it's all the creeping death. | ||
| See, it's now the galloping death. | ||
| That's really disgusting shit. | ||
| And I sincerely wonder if Alex is imagining these parents getting photos with their babies as if it's them goofing off. | ||
| Yeah, I think he thinks it's like a fish. | ||
| Like they caught it, like they're holding it up, like, hey! | ||
| Look at this thing. | ||
| Yeah, I wonder if he thinks that footprinting or memorializing their lost child is a behavior that anyone would engage in if they weren't taking this decision very seriously and making an emotionally difficult choice. | ||
| Does he legitimately think that anyone would do this shit for fun? | ||
| What he's describing and mocking is a part of grief. | ||
| It's mourning and honoring a child you never had. | ||
| There's a long history of this sort of thing cross-culturally. | ||
| Like, I remember in a religious studies class I took in college reading a book called The Haunting Fetus about rituals some people in Taiwan would carry out to provide food and care towards pregnancies that had been terminated, honoring the fetus ghosts. | ||
| In Japan, it's not uncommon to hold Mizuko Kuyo ceremonies to honor and recognize the spirits of children lost to miscarriage, stillbirth, and abortion. | ||
| These are not historically uncommon things because people need to process emotionally resonant occasions. | ||
| And even if you're making a decision to terminate a pregnancy, that doesn't automatically mean that it's not going to affect you. | ||
| And sure, that's not always the case, and some people don't have an emotionally impactful experience with terminating a pregnancy. | ||
| But I find the idea of Alex mocking the idea of people grieving to be so fucking disgusting. | ||
| They're literally proof that everything he believes about abortion, namely that people are all just going around getting them for fun, is complete bullshit. | ||
| Because he can't wrestle with that, he has to mock this and act like it's the most insane thing ever, when in reality, it's his callous position that is insanity. | ||
| This is gross. | ||
| This is... | ||
| Like, he genuinely thinks people are getting footprints of non-viable fetuses the same way that you get a smashed penny at fucking Six Flags. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's what he thinks. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Because he's gross. | ||
| Grosso. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he gets worse. | ||
| These people are insane. | ||
| They are. | ||
| So he reads this article and just really ruminates in the details. | ||
| And when he gets to the end of reading this article, he says something that made my heart flutter a little bit in fear. | ||
| Yeah, that's how I spend my days. | ||
| I'm not complaining. | ||
| I feel very violent right now. | ||
| As a man and a father would, I'm going to control myself. | ||
| And we're going to take this country and planet back. | ||
| We're going to protect the children. | ||
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And we're going to legally and lawfully execute these people that have been involved in this. | |
| What? | ||
| They will die. | ||
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Stay with us. | |
| That is so fucked up. | ||
| Alright, now that music choice was not incongruous. | ||
| No! | ||
| That was haunting. | ||
| That was fucking haunting. | ||
| That was right on for the tone. | ||
| That was terrifying. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
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So... | |
| I imagine that what Alex is describing is a fantasy scenario where I guess Trump is in power forever and they outlaw abortion and then they kill everyone who works at Planned Parenthood. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And anybody who's decided to get an abortion except for him because he's repented. | ||
| Well, it's ten abortions. | ||
| Well, he repented. | ||
| He did repent, though. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| However, the people whom he wants to execute will not have a chance to repent. | ||
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No. | |
| It's very strange how that works. | ||
| They will legally and lawfully be executed. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This is crazy. | ||
| That's such extremist shit right there. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That is not politically being opposed to a woman's right to choose. | ||
| That is... | ||
| I mean, I know. | ||
| He does his little bullshit about, we're going to legally and lawfully execute you. | ||
| This is encouraging violence towards people who work at abortion clinics, who are Planned Parenthood employees, who are people who advocate for women's health. | ||
| This is sincerely one of the most dangerous ways he could be acting on 9-11! | ||
| What he's doing is commemorating the memory of the... | ||
| 18 terrorists who inspired him to try and kill others. | ||
| That's what he's really trying to do, Dan. | ||
| But that's because 9-11 isn't as big as abortion. | ||
| And I told you that that's the sense that I got through the beginning of this episode. | ||
| He's using 9-11 in order to prop up his abortion arguments. | ||
| And then he just makes it clear at this point. | ||
| So depending on what numbers you look at, there's been... | ||
| 60 million plus abortions in the United States. | ||
| Depending on what numbers you look at. | ||
| But seven states don't report, so it's much higher than that. | ||
| But if you divide 3,000 people into 60 million, that's quite a mini 9-11s. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| This guy built his career on 9-11. | ||
| Now he's throwing it under the bus. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's very flippant about 9-11. | ||
| This is not what I expected from him on 9-11. | ||
| This is very weird. | ||
| 9-11, not that big a deal. | ||
| Happy 9-11, everybody. | ||
| It's so strange. | ||
| So, in this next clip, he gets into talking about abortion doctors being demons. | ||
| Also, it's more insane. | ||
| It's more insane because you could argue that 9-11 was the single, was like the flashpoint that led to America cannibalizing itself over the past 20 years. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Like, you could argue that 9-11 is going to take down the entire... | |
| There were... | ||
| If it hasn't already. | ||
| You know, I don't know if you could draw a straight line, but I think you could make an argument that a lot of the ripple effects of it have been things that have led to the state we're in now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, but abortion's bigger. | ||
| Oh, never mind. | ||
| And abortion doctors are demons. | ||
| Alex has it on video. | ||
| Are they low-servant demons, or are they one step above? | ||
| Probably middle management. | ||
| Middle management demons? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Bummer. | ||
| So Alex has video of it, but he won't play it. | ||
| That's really convenient. | ||
| This guy's the worst. | ||
| And weird abortion doctors will come out and talk like demons and go, I will kill the children. | ||
| But we have it on video now. | ||
| You'd like me to play it? | ||
| I will. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| And it's not just a few of them. | ||
| You get around abortion clinics and you'll see people walking in going, I mean, whatever you want to call it, killing babies all day ain't good for you. | ||
| I thought they loved it. | ||
| We're going to roll video where the doctors walk in going, and they'll go, planet serving us. | ||
| You don't believe in demons. | ||
| You've got to go around these places. | ||
| You'll see it. | ||
| They'll start going, your planet's ours. | ||
| Satan is my master. | ||
| We have it on video. | ||
| I'm going to show you. | ||
| You don't. | ||
| You have it, but it's not convincing. | ||
| One of the trends that you see there is you've got to see it. | ||
| That's a bad suggestion. | ||
| Because what he's doing is sort of telling his audience that you should go to abortion clinics, you'll see their demons, and we will rightfully and lawfully execute them at some point. | ||
| And he makes it even more overt in this next clip. | ||
| Go to an abortion clinic today! | ||
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Witness it! | |
| Talk about God! | ||
| Tell somebody it's wrong, they'll be like, how are you doing today? | ||
| You know, Jesus is real, these babies are real, and it's really bad for what you're doing. | ||
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Shut up! | |
| I'll keep doing it if I want! | ||
| If you don't believe in God, then you're blind, folks. | ||
| It's real. | ||
| And you want to know where the demons are? | ||
| They're at the abortion clinics. | ||
| Of course they are. | ||
| So what we have is a show that is calling for violence, whether it's pretend legal and lawful violence or not. | ||
| It's calling for the deaths of these people who were involved. | ||
| Literal demons. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's enlisting his audience. | ||
| To go to abortion clinics. | ||
| He's literally saying, go today and see the demons. | ||
| What does he expect some of his audience to do when they see demons? | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Now, we know from history that anti-abortion protesters, when they go to clinics, it is always very calm and respectful. | ||
| No one has, say, I don't know, shot some abortion doctor in the head. | ||
| That's definitely never happened. | ||
| Nobody's bombed or lit an abortion clinic on fire. | ||
| I'm not saying that, like, this is going to cause that. | ||
| No. | ||
| But it's behavior that is trying to get that to happen. | ||
| There is no other way to behave like this. | ||
| This doesn't advance your discourse. | ||
| This doesn't advance the point that you're trying to make. | ||
| This exists solely. | ||
| To hope one of your listeners goes and shoots up an abortion clinic. | ||
| There's literally no other way to operate like this. | ||
| This is unacceptable to levels that I can't even really describe. | ||
| And this is purposeful for continued fucking views. | ||
| He doesn't give a fuck about this. | ||
| He doesn't think that this is real. | ||
| He doesn't care about it. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| And yet on 9-11, he fucking spends an entire show. | ||
| Trying to get these people killed so you'll pay attention to him. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| That's fucked up! | ||
| But I think there's a reason. | ||
| And that is... | ||
| He needs money? | ||
| Well, it might be past that point. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| This is one of the things... | ||
| Like, we're already pretty deep into this episode. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And there was a large part of me that as I was listening to the 10th, I was like, well... | ||
| That's probably an episode. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then I started to listen to the 11th. | ||
| I heard that Paul Joseph Watson report that was like, this is a fucking Reddit post. | ||
| I heard how disgusting he was. | ||
| I heard this call for his audience to go to abortion clinics to witness the demons for themselves. | ||
| And I was like, that's fucking... | ||
| I can't leave alone. | ||
| And then this happened. | ||
| And I was like, well, this is huge. | ||
| Hollywood is completely turned over to Satan. | ||
| This is real. | ||
| And denying it is going to get us all destroyed. | ||
| So we're going to come back and play all that briefly. | ||
| I was thinking about last night that this is probably the time to go ahead and just be completely frank with everybody. | ||
| And it's really hard to express this properly because there's a lot of facets and a lot of angles and a lot of different ways. | ||
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that I can basically break this down. | |
| And so trying to think of the best way to describe it the most accurately is somewhat of a paradox and a conspiracy. | ||
| So I heard that. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| That's big. | ||
| Well, I have a lot of... | ||
| Or it could be a complete fucking lie. | ||
| I have conflicting feelings about it, because I don't trust this fucking guy at all. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| But there's a feeling of sincerity there. | ||
| There seems to be a difficulty talking about this. | ||
| You know, you could see the way he was struggling with words. | ||
| It feels like whether or not he's exaggerating something, there is definitely something behind this. | ||
| Some existential fear that he has about, like, well, we can't really do anything. | ||
| So when he comes back, he's not bluffing. | ||
| He does end up talking about this. | ||
| And he makes a very specific time frame claim that might be sincere, might not. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| In about the last three, four months, we passed a demarcation line, a point of really no return, where I am selling product that I have. | ||
| And I'll be able to continue for a year at our current even slight expansion rate. | ||
| But then when all of that product is sold out, there'll be no money because I won't be reordering. | ||
| And so now I've reached the point where I can actually count it. | ||
| I think we're going to have a countdown to the shutdown of InfoWars. | ||
| 365 days? | ||
| I mean, really, that's true. | ||
| And I don't like the enemy to know this, but they've already got moles and they spy on us. | ||
| I mean, they're fully aware. | ||
| But all the things they've done to us, you know, having to pay a higher rate for just merchant accounts and having to pay for all our own bandwidth and having to have 24-hour security up here, you know, armed, trained security, and to have it at my house. | ||
| It was the only antifa. | ||
| You're the one who chose to hire Blackwater. | ||
| I don't know what I think about this. | ||
| I'm really conflicted. | ||
| Because it is definitely in line with the trends that we've seen from Alex. | ||
| He constantly talks about wanting to quit, wanting to be a farmer, and shit like that. | ||
| He has been kind of checked out for a bit now. | ||
| His legal fees have got to be exorbitant. | ||
| There's no way he can keep up with all of the expenses of this stuff. | ||
| And we heard, I don't know, was it a couple weeks ago, maybe, he was talking about having to have a decision about whether or not to order more product. | ||
| Yeah, and this time he said specifically, we are not. | ||
| It does sound like that. | ||
| I don't know if he's being clear enough, really, to say, like, what he's saying is they're not ordering any more product. | ||
| But it does sound like that's what he's saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It sounds like he's given up. | ||
| Yeah, it does sound like that, but 365 days is a long year where you can order product on any one of those days. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's literally like, hey... | ||
| After a month, if all of his fans go apeshit on it, he's like, you know what? | ||
| Everybody loves this so much, we're going to reorder! | ||
| But I think he's also been doing these money bombs a lot in these marathons, and I think there's diminishing returns to it. | ||
| Well, of course. | ||
| I have to assume that that's part of the calculation that they've made. | ||
| It's like, okay, yes. | ||
| This amount of money that you can get from selling all of the stuff in the warehouse will get you so far. | ||
| But at that point, you're fucked because you don't have the money now to reorder and keep the business going. | ||
| You have the money for either. | ||
| You can do one of them. | ||
| So basically, he's in a position where, let's say it costs $5 million to run the operation for a year, and it also costs $5 million to order the product. | ||
| He could spend that $5 million now for the product and hope that more sales will come, but then he's running on nothing for the show, and he couldn't pay bandwidth fees, all that other shit, legal fees. | ||
| Or he could afford that $5 million to run it for a year. | ||
| At that point, he has nothing left in order to reorder supplies that he could be using to sell. | ||
| That's the framing that I see it as kind of being where he's at. | ||
| I don't know if that's accurate. | ||
| He could be full of shit, but I've not heard him speak this specifically and this morosely. | ||
| Yeah, it does sound real to me because of his reluctance to talk about. | ||
| And that goes back to, I think, his narcissism. | ||
| Like, when he normally asks for money, he doesn't need it and he's lying. | ||
| So, you know, it's totally fine with him. | ||
| He's a narcissist. | ||
| He can rationalize that away. | ||
| But now that he actually needs it and he's coming from a place of weakness... | ||
| That's why he's so resistant to talk about it and that kind of thing. | ||
| That's what makes sense to me. | ||
| It's a possibility. | ||
| Pretty strong possibility. | ||
| And, you know, I think there's also a part of it that's like expectation building in his audience. | ||
| Like, we are probably fucked. | ||
| We are fucked. | ||
| We don't want to disappear overnight. | ||
| I have emotionally fucked you guys all up real bad. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It would be tough if I just disappeared out of nowhere. | ||
| I need to go on a Kobe Bryant swan song where I ruin an entire NBA franchise for a year. | ||
| And then we'll figure it out. | ||
| So he talks more about it in this next clip where he just feels like he's saying, I don't want to do these fucking ads anymore. | ||
| I don't want to do this. | ||
| I don't want to sit here and run all these ads. | ||
| We're formatted for radio. | ||
| People really don't even listen to the ads. | ||
| And then I don't want to sit here and plug all day on air about the great products we've got. | ||
| I'm just going to tell listeners that I'm not going to dial things back. | ||
| I'm not going to lay a bunch of people off. | ||
| I'm just going to go 100% into the election, and I'm going to spend everything we've got, and I'm just going to put everything on the front lines and go all in to reignite Americana, to expose the globalists, and to ignite populism worldwide. | ||
| And I'm not going to just fizzle out and trail out here. | ||
| I'm going to go out with a big, fiery... | ||
| Gross. | ||
| But also, a year isn't going to get you to the election. | ||
| Point of order. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, if you want to listen to that call and go buy a bunch of products and sign up for Autoships, you don't forget, and if you want to tell others about the show and you want to really get aggressive to support the Infowar, that'll be wonderful, and we'll go into the election year and get the funding we need. | ||
| But I'm currently selling out of products and discounting them to sell them where I cannot fund the operation and buy more product. | ||
| So you understand that. | ||
| It's kind of like you're on a mission, you've got fuel, and you've got to get to a certain place. | ||
| But when you get there, there's no fuel to come back. | ||
| You understand? | ||
| And I'm not going to sit here and just dial back and cut people's pay and then just kind of wobble on to the future. | ||
| I'm going to 110% pedal to the metal, work as hard as I can. | ||
| People are noticing I'm more focused. | ||
| I'm more on target. | ||
| Because we're going into a critical crossroads and we're going into 25 years of InfoWars. | ||
| Will it make it 26, 27 years? | ||
| Can you imagine the victory the globalists will have if we're not here? | ||
| I make it really easy to get the products. | ||
| I mean, we go out and go, what's the best-selling skin cream? | ||
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Well, it's hyaluronic acid with vitamin A. See, that's why I don't necessarily believe this. | |
| It goes right into an ad. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| I still think he has some sort of semblance of idea, like a hope that he can pull this one off. | ||
| But it doesn't feel good odds. | ||
| It doesn't. | ||
| It kind of sounds like he's directly appealing to the Republican Party. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's like, please, I'm going to go all in for Trump in the election. | ||
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Trump, please, please give me your money. | |
| Well, this is why he was screaming at all the family members who won't give him money. | ||
| I stay at your hotels, Trump! | ||
| I just did an ad for your hotels! | ||
| And you're cheating, everybody! | ||
| Yeah, he's really mad at the people who aren't giving him money because he, like, on the 6th, even before that, he's aware of all this. | ||
| He knows that he's living in a situation where he's got to figure out something to do. | ||
| And all of these really rich people who pay him lip service or whatever, like, oh, your show's great! | ||
| They're not going to give him any money. | ||
| No one needs this fucking show to exist. | ||
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| It's all lies and bullshit and white nationalism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The only way you're going to find a billionaire donor is probably some billionaire bigot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Those are so tough to find, too. | |
| I think that he'd need a patron that was explicitly interested in that angle of his coverage. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I don't think that they would pay a top dollar for him. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Oh, they wouldn't pay top dollar for him. | ||
| I don't think that he would be able to get what he needs to operate from even some kind of a benefactor. | ||
| He just doesn't have the utility. | ||
| He doesn't have the usefulness anymore. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And it's kind of sad. | ||
| It's kind of sad because I think he's living in this space, it feels to me at least, that he's like, I still got a good season in me. | ||
| I still am. | ||
| I'm relevant. | ||
| And all evidence is to the contrary. | ||
| You have played out your career. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So there's this weird dynamic that's going on that he's simultaneously giving up and then still trying to be like, I need money, which is weird. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| I think it's embodied in this next clip. | ||
| We've gotten in a position where we're usually 150% markup, then we sell it at 100% markup discounted, and then we're usually selling it 50% off. | ||
| It's the only time you buy stuff, and then by then we're making 20%, 30%. | ||
| That doesn't pay for it. | ||
| And I'm not bitching. | ||
| I'm not complaining. | ||
| We've done things nobody else has ever done. | ||
| We've changed the world together. | ||
| We've been a self-funded media operation that's done incredible things. | ||
| And I'm not really worried about it. | ||
| You fund it. | ||
| You support it. | ||
| You spread the word about it. | ||
| Or it goes away. | ||
| And I've told everybody, even new hires, I said, we've got about a year. | ||
| It'll take some time trailing off. | ||
| I expect as we start shutting down, a bunch of money will come in. | ||
| That'll be too late. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| You don't wind something up like this and then wind it back down and wind it back up unless some billionaire came along with $50 million. | ||
| There's... | ||
| I've invested over $100 million. | ||
| You have in the last 15 years in this place or more. | ||
| Now it's way more than that. | ||
| You understand? | ||
| So, you want this to keep living? | ||
| Hey, feed me, Seymour. | ||
| Infowarsstore.com. | ||
| I appreciate all of your support. | ||
| Got some big specials right now. | ||
| I think that that's a bad reference. | ||
| Why? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That worked out well in the end, right? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| No, everybody won, and they were happy forever. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what to make of this. | ||
| We'll have to see how things play out, because he's such a liar, and especially around money stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is such a perfect thing for him to do in order for him to get people to cover it and be like, hey, Alex is going out of business and then he'll come back and be like, I am not. | ||
| I'm doing better than ever. | ||
| Fake news about me. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| That's one thing. | ||
| It looks like a bait for publicity. | ||
| There's another thing where it's just manipulative of his audience because he's saying that you want this to keep going? | ||
| That's on you. | ||
| All I can do is sell these great products for cheap and the only time you ever buy them are when they're 50%. | ||
| There is a manipulativeness where he's making it the audience's fault that he's going to go out of business. | ||
| Well, of course. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Which could just be a ploy to get them to buy more shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Simultaneously, I've never heard him talk like this. | ||
| It's pretty much like a bummer that I'm delighted by. | ||
| Man, I can't imagine being a new hire. | ||
| Well, others. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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The one who went to Hong Kong. | |
| I wonder how they're doing. | ||
| Probably gone by now. | ||
| If I work there... | ||
| They're still in Hong Kong. | ||
| He forgot to give them a plane home. | ||
| If I were working at InfoWars and I heard Alex talking like this on air, you better believe I'm changing my name and getting on LinkedIn. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You're rewriting your resume. | ||
| Why is there a huge gap in your resume? | ||
| I was unemployed for four years. | ||
| Four years unemployed. | ||
| I had to go find myself. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I was in Tibet. | ||
| I think that if this is true, one of the things we will see is probably people leave. | ||
| So I think that you end up seeing an outflow of employees. | ||
| And we'll see. | ||
| We'll see how this plays out. | ||
| I want to keep track of it. | ||
| But for now, I'm cautious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm cautious about this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But Alex gets done with his mopey bullshit. | ||
| And then, you know, we were talking earlier about how, like, when you talk about the West, you're really just talking about white. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's kind of clear. | ||
| Wait, the show continues after this? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What? | ||
| When did the show, did that happen? | ||
| Was that like hour one? | ||
| No, it was either hour one or like the beginning of hour two. | ||
| Unreal. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Unreal. | ||
| And you still do? | ||
| Fuck me. | ||
| It's in the middle of it. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So Alex talks about the West. | ||
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Okay. | |
| It's just so racist when we project on the people that aren't white that they're better than us. | ||
| When in many cases, they're more barbarous than we ever were, and I don't hate these people. | ||
| The fact is that we need to stop hating the West. | ||
| So let's go ahead and play. | ||
| In that sentence, it's very clear. | ||
| The West and white are identical to him. | ||
| You know what's crazy? | ||
| The moment he started saying shit like that, his phone turned on and started broadcasting. | ||
| It's so wild. | ||
| It's so wild that when you say that stuff in the forest, your phone just turns on and starts broadcasting. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So that's pretty clear. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| We can put that baby to bed. | ||
| That the white is the West. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| So Alex has Dan Lyman on, who is the Europe Wars guy. | ||
| The man whose name could not be more on the nose. | ||
| Liar man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they talk a little bit about... | ||
| Apparently Alex has some complaints about Emmanuel Macron. | ||
| And then he gets a little bit white nationalist. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| Just a little bit. | ||
| Can we change your name to Dan Truthman? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Well, he said France's future is African. | ||
| Okay, well, there's feces everywhere and homeless people and trees falling down in front of cars to rob them. | ||
| And what, tourism's down 80%? | ||
| I mean, why the hell would they be doing this? | ||
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Right. | |
| Tourism is down heavily in cities like Paris, Stockholm, London, and tourism is up in other countries where things are much safer and where there aren't that many migrants. | ||
| Cities like Dubrovnik, Croatia, Split, Croatia, Krakow, Poland. | ||
| These places are... | ||
| Everyone I know isn't going to Western Europe now. | ||
| They're going to Eastern Europe. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| The cities are more beautiful. | ||
| They're cleaner. | ||
| They're safer. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Everyone I know is going to white places, and I don't understand why. | ||
| Right, there's a selection bias there. | ||
| So Alex is kind of twisting Macron's words just a little bit. | ||
| From what I can tell, he said that Africa is the continent of the future, which is a little different from what Alex is presenting. | ||
| It also makes sense for a French president to say something like this, because a large portion of Africa is part of what's known as Le Mans Francophone, or the French-speaking world. | ||
| Places like Côte d 'Ivoire, and there's 18 other African countries where French is the official language. | ||
| Anyway, that's a small point compared to something far more important. | ||
| The things that Alex and Dan Lyman are saying here are not true. | ||
| According to the local out of France, in an article from April 2019 about their tourism industry, quote, France has just enjoyed a record year for visitor numbers. | ||
| Which means that the record was they dropped by 80%. | ||
| Paris draws in over 30 million tourists a year, which makes sense, given its large number of monuments and attractions. | ||
| Oh, and the fucking Disneyland. | ||
| And just the fact that France has varying climates that you can go to. | ||
| Like, you can enjoy a beach or a ski slope. | ||
| They got everything. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's a very appealing country to visit, unless all you do is listen to Infowars, and you might have a slightly different version. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Connection France has an article from August 2018 discussing how France is the, quote, champion of the world in tourism. | ||
| There's some truth that tourism took a little bit of a dip in 2015 in the wake of those two high-profile terrorist attacks. | ||
| But that was just a temporary setback, and things are going really great in the tourism sector now. | ||
| The UK is seeing a slight dip in tourism numbers, something around 3% this year compared to last year. | ||
| But there's no reason to say that immigrants are the reason that number is low. | ||
| If you ask the UK tourism organization Visit Britain, their story is a little different, as they told The Independent. | ||
| Quote, we've seen a slowdown from Europe with our research showing concern on the impact of the uncertainty of Brexit is having on visitors from the EU. | ||
| That doesn't sound right. | ||
| Daily news storms of the... | ||
| Staggering incompetence and pure evil of Brexit has made people not want to go there? | ||
| That just doesn't sound rude. | ||
| That doesn't sound true. | ||
| But that's the particular place where their tourism numbers are down, in visitors from other EU countries. | ||
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Right. | |
| And their internal research is indicative that it's Brexit that's causing that dip. | ||
| Is that accurate? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But I think I'll probably trust the director of a British tourism board on British tourism-related issues over Alex Jones talking shit. | ||
| As for Sweden, Stockholm, I'll quote to you from the local. | ||
| Quote, Tourists in Sweden spent 317 billion kroner in 2017, enough to make it the top year for tourism of all time. | ||
| Yeah, but that was just a few people spending $100 million each. | ||
| So the tourism was down 80%. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| According to Macro Trends, this is part of an upward trend where 2016 saw a 12.89% increase in tourism, and then 2017 continued that trend with an 11.29% increase in numbers of tourists that came to visit. | ||
| There's no truth to what Dan and Alex are saying here. | ||
| They're making shit up based on their feelings about these cities and how many videos they see of scary brown people in them and YouTube. | ||
| That's all they're expressing here is that they don't want to visit these cities because of how many immigrants are in them, which is undeniably racist. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You can tell that by the examples that Dan lists of cities where tourism is up. | ||
| Poland is an example that white nationalists use all the time. | ||
| It is weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You could even go to Poland and declare yourself a white nationalist. | ||
| Some have done that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In documentaries. | ||
| I've heard it before. | ||
| So that's a destination that gets brought up by people in that sector quite a bit. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| It's a preferred talking point about how great a country it is. | ||
| Oh, so great. | ||
| They don't allow anybody in. | ||
| And then with Croatia, he's just making shit up there, too. | ||
| Allow me to read to you from a July 2019 article in Total Croatia News. | ||
| Quote, After several years of growth at unrealistically high rates caused by external factors, the We have to prepare ourselves well for these new circumstances and be prepared to fight for each and every guest, said Franco Palma of the Croatian Chamber of Commerce. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| The argument these guys are trying to make is that bringing in immigrants has crushed France, Sweden, and UK's tourism industries, and places like Poland and Croatia are on the rise because they have no immigrants there. | ||
| They're further asserting that the people in charge must have known that bringing in immigrants would have this effect, so they must be doing it for a reason, probably because they wanted to crush the tourism sector to destroy the economy. | ||
| If you take a step back and look at the numbers, it's easy to see that both of these arguments aren't based on anything other than Dan and Alex's feelings about immigrants, namely that they hate them. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| Look, it's fine when they're... | ||
| It's not fine when they're lying. | ||
| It's awful when they're just straight up lying. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What stings the most to me, because I feel like it's a microcosm of that nationalist worldview, period, is when they say things that are not just not true, but... | ||
| Demonstrably the opposite. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That really stings. | ||
| Like, if you just lie about... | ||
| Like, hey, Jordan eats spaghetti sauce every morning for breakfast. | ||
| This is scandalous. | ||
| That's... | ||
| Fine. | ||
| You made that up. | ||
| But if I ate the opposite of spaghetti sauce every morning, I would be furious. | ||
| You got yourself into a real hole. | ||
| You are. | ||
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I know. | |
| I really couldn't understand. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Cheese? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You got to be more careful. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was the worst possible. | ||
| But it's that the opposite is true. | ||
| And the same thing is always true with... | ||
| For instance, Brexit and shit like that. | ||
| They'll just say, oh, we're going to get an extra 10 million pounds for the national health system. | ||
| And then they do the numbers. | ||
| And what's actually true is they're going to wind up losing 10 million pounds for the national health system. | ||
| And you're like, just lie fakely. | ||
| Just don't say the opposite. | ||
| We can't actually live in 1984. | ||
| Well, these people that Alex and Dan are talking to are... | ||
| Just completely absorbed within this right-wing media sphere. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Where their perceptions about these countries are completely molded by these sensational videos that they see posted and taken out of context and reporting from people like Paul Joseph Watson, who sees fit to use a year-old Reddit post that's clearly bullshit as evidence of something. | ||
| So they're already that... | ||
| So when you talk like this, you can lie about whatever the fuck you want. | ||
| And it's better for you just to use your feelings. | ||
| Yeah, tourism's down 80% in Paris. | ||
| That would lead to a literal fucking budget crisis for France. | ||
| If tourism were down 80%, all we would read all day is, why is France burning? | ||
| Like, that's it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I understand that a lot of the numbers I was looking at were France as opposed to Paris. | ||
| But you've got to understand, most of the tourism is going to Paris. | ||
| And if it were down 80%, the country would be crippled. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Their whole tourism numbers would be down so hard. | ||
| Same for London, same for Stockholm. | ||
| Those are tourist destinations within those countries that make up the majority of tourist travel. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| For any of them to be affected in any meaningful way, the country could not possibly be setting records. | ||
| For tourism. | ||
| And it just couldn't function. | ||
| No. | ||
| God, that's so fucking annoying. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And it's not annoying because I have to reference 1984, and that's cliche. | ||
| It's annoying because we're actually living it, and we're living a cliche. | ||
| And it's boring. | ||
| It's fucking boring. | ||
| It is a little bit. | ||
| So Alex talks some shit about China and immigrants in this next clip. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Now remember, China won't take one person from any of these places. | ||
| The Middle East, Africa, you name it. | ||
| So, that's an interesting claim. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| According to the UN High Commissioner for Refugees report for 2015, China definitely does have a low intake of refugees, but Alex is still being completely unfair and lying. | ||
| A vast majority of the refugees they accept in China are from Vietnam. | ||
| However, that year they also let in 182 Somalians, 86 Nigerians, 52 Iraqis, 45 Liberians, and 362 people from unspecified countries. | ||
| These numbers are very low, but it's also unfair for Alex to say they don't accept a single person. | ||
| I know Alex is really pushing hard for Trump to have an immigration policy that's tough and is designed to, let's say, quote, promote economic development and national security while maintaining social stability. | ||
| Boy, that really sounds like a lot of words for what you actually mean, which is keep white people in and keep everybody else out. | ||
| Oh, I also wasn't quoting anything that Trump or Alex has said. | ||
| That's the Chinese government's policy position on immigration. | ||
| Ah, there we go. | ||
| So it's really super ironic that Alex spends all day yelling about China and pointing fingers at them while really actually wanting our country to be more like them. | ||
| When I hear him say that China doesn't let in immigrants, it's easy to hear him saying that if he thinks it's bad that they don't. | ||
| In reality, it's a baby throwing a tantrum, saying China can do it. | ||
| Why can't we? | ||
| That's what he's saying. | ||
| That's exactly what he's saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You hear it, and you're a human, so you're like, oh, we all agree that accepting refugees is a good thing. | ||
| And you should point the finger at China for not accepting more people in. | ||
| But that's not what he's doing. | ||
| That's what a human does. | ||
| What Alex does is go, Look! | ||
| Other people, they don't let people in, and they're probably fine. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Why can't I? | ||
| Why can't I? | ||
| So I get some bad news in this next clip. | ||
| I just want to say racist things in a forest without accidentally leaving my phone on so everybody knows how racist I am. | ||
| Or not realizing someone walked up a bike. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So I got some bad news in this next clip. | ||
| Alright, riding shotgun with us for the rest of the transmission is constitutional lawyer Robert Barnes. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| He upgraded to constitutional lawyer? | ||
| That's one of his credits all the time. | ||
| Has he ever read it? | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Barnes. | ||
| When Barnes checks in, I check out. | ||
| So does Dunstan, actually. | ||
| That's 100% true. | ||
| I don't give a fuck about the stuff that Barnes is saying is, but I do have one clip of him. | ||
| Because... | ||
| It's a piece of information about our, you know, hearing Alex kind of giving up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But at the same time still trying to sell things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| So now he enlists Barnes to do an ad read. | ||
| No! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Fuck yes! | ||
| I never asked you to do this, but you were chiming in. | ||
| You really like our Wake Up America coffee, and you were saying you really like Brain Force. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, I've always got the coffee, which is great. | ||
| It's fantastic. | ||
| Some of the best coffee I've ever had. | ||
| That's the reason why I get them. | ||
| A bit of a coffee snob. | ||
| I've always got the fluoride-free toothpaste, because I like that, because I've always had concerns about fluoride, which were recently confirmed. | ||
| A wide range of studies after they were criticizing it for forever and saying there's no worries, no concerns. | ||
| All of a sudden, they're like, well, it actually causes baby defects. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| And then I like the protein bars because they're a good sort of intermediate snack. | ||
| So when you want something to eat between sort of lunch and dinner or between dinner and a late snack, and you don't want it just to be, you know, Little Debbie's or Swiss cake roll. | ||
| You want a snack between dinner and a late snack. | ||
| Rolls, then protein bars really hit the spot. | ||
| But so with the protein bars, I got a free sample of Brain Force. | ||
| And typically, I'm not a supplement guy. | ||
| So supplement doesn't usually, like, unlike other people, my brain chemistry is such that it's unaffected by most medicines. | ||
| You are weird! | ||
| Unaffected by a wide range of things. | ||
| So I just generally haven't tried it. | ||
| But one thing I've looked for over the years is when I was in law school, they had something they called two-way, which allowed me to have sort of peak mental ability during law school exams. | ||
| And the only side effect was when you crashed, you crashed. | ||
| But there was no other major side effect to it. | ||
| Turned out there were some illegal products in it, so it's no longer available. | ||
| You were on speed! | ||
| You were on speed, you fucking moron! | ||
| I had not found anything that could come close to it. | ||
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So I got a free stamp and I was like, well, what the heck, I'll try it, see if it works. | |
| Because of the nature of my... | ||
| I had no problem staying up two days as long as I had a lot of meth. | ||
| As long as I had a lot of meth, I stayed up for... | ||
| Weeks even! | ||
| I only got through law school because I was on stimulants that actually had illegal things in them, and so I can't get them anymore. | ||
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Holy shit. | |
| What a fucking asshole! | ||
| What a read for Alex's products. | ||
| That was really good. | ||
| I had that speed that I took back when I was in college, and I've never found anything that was quite as good as that, but now I found Brain Force, and it's just like speed. | ||
| Honestly, that's the best read you could do for Brain Force, right? | ||
| It's still unbecoming as hell for a lawyer. | ||
| Oh, I don't understand how he didn't have his law license revoked after reading that. | ||
| That is insane. | ||
| Well, it's worse that he's not reading it. | ||
| This is extemporaneous. | ||
| That's extemporaneous? | ||
| I believe so. | ||
| Oh my fucking God. | ||
| One, he is good. | ||
| If he's making that up off the top of his head, he is revealing a lot of crimes that he's committed. | ||
| He's not that good because he did say you need a snack between dinner and a late night snack. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That wasn't misspeaking. | ||
| If he had written that out ahead of time, I don't think he would have said that. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| God. | ||
| Is it okay for you to practice law while admitting all the crimes you committed to become a lawyer? | ||
| Hey man, I'm not one of these squares who says you can't do drugs in college. | ||
| No, I'm all for it. | ||
| Get off that. | ||
| I'm all for it. | ||
| I don't judge him for that. | ||
| I just think it's more funny that it's like I did these fucking speed drugs in college and now brain force is just like it. | ||
| That's a very weird way to sell this product. | ||
| I mean, the reason you're getting it is because you want speed. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| It's overt, though. | ||
| So, selling it as, like, hey, this is like speed. | ||
| It's almost as good as speed. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| Well, at the same time, not having the single moment of clarity that he should have had, which is, it turns out I was taking something that I didn't know what was inside of it, and it was speed. | ||
| And it was awesome. | ||
| And I loved it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So, this brain force, which... | ||
| I don't know what's inside of it. | ||
| Makes me feel exactly like those pills I took that I didn't know what was inside of them that had speed in them. | ||
| It also puts into question that pressured speech that he has could be like amphetamine related. | ||
| Or some byproduct of his chemistry and brain force coming together. | ||
| He has an incredible chemistry, apparently. | ||
| You can't be affected by medicines. | ||
| I'm unaffected by medicines. | ||
| God, what a scam lawyer. | ||
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What a dick. | |
| What a fucking scam lawyer if there ever was one. | ||
| I love InfoWars coffee because I'm a coffee snob. | ||
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What a fucking asshole. | |
| Yeah, you know all those boutique coffee shops that serve InfoWars coffee. | ||
| The highest end of the coffee. | ||
| I had someone who used to work for, like, legit roasters. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or the company that would distribute, like, high-end artisanal roast coffees. | ||
| It's ludicrous to think that in the conversation of these coffees would even be InfoWars Wake Up America blend. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| Well, what they do is Alex personally goes to South America in order to find the best coffee beans. | ||
| Only the best for InfoWars Blend. | ||
| If ever there's an argument for him not being allowed to be a lawyer, I think that clip has got to be it. | ||
| That's unbecoming. | ||
| Also, you're lying. | ||
| You're lying to people. | ||
| Bold-facedly. | ||
| So this is the 9-11 episode, and he does not get into 9-11 until about the third hour of the show. | ||
| He just plays a clip of Trump being interviewed on TV on 9-11, but he mysteriously edits out that part where Trump brags about now how he has the biggest building in the city. | ||
| Oh, he left that part out? | ||
| No, yeah, he cut it out. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| I thought he would leave that part in, because that shows how great the president is. | ||
| No, no, he seems to not want to bring that part of the interview into the conversation. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because it makes the man sound soulless, like a psychopath who should be kept as far away from the rest of the human race as possible? | ||
| And at the very least, a little bit of a weirdo. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| I don't care about the little bit that Alex talked about 9-11, because it's kind of the standard bullshit you always hear him talk about, and it's just too... | ||
| It's too unspecific and stupid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, his version of all... | ||
| What he sounds like is someone trying to sound like an expert, but who's forgotten all of his curriculum. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, he hasn't really done 9-11 shit in a long time. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| He's forgotten a lot of his narratives. | ||
| He's dusting off the old material, and he doesn't have the chops anymore. | ||
| He knows he produced Loose Change, and he probably remembers some of the stuff in that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's not worthwhile. | ||
| It's really kind of sad. | ||
| This episode is really more about that abortion shit. | ||
| Like, really, that's the takeaway of this. | ||
| But we have one last clip. | ||
| And I think that this clip perfectly describes Alex. | ||
| I think he's describing it as a way people look at him. | ||
| And I think that way that people look at him is well-deserved. | ||
| It's like we're the little kids at the little kid table. | ||
| And government and the think tanks, they're all over there running things in big tech. | ||
| And they've already decided our future. | ||
| They tell us it's a post-human future. | ||
| And we're like, hey, we see you doing this. | ||
| We see you doing that. | ||
| And they're like, shut up. | ||
| That's not going on. | ||
| Now, the interpretation of all the other stuff is kind of stupid. | ||
| But that's what someone at the kids' table would think. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He is. | ||
| He's not responsible enough to sit with the adults. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, shut up. | ||
| None of that stuff is happening. | ||
| He would start throwing food at people. | ||
| Like, you wouldn't be able to have a conversation if he was sitting at the adult's table. | ||
| Yes, you're at the kid's table, Alex, because your behavior has relegated you to that. | ||
| You can't possibly act the way he does. | ||
| Like when he was on that BBC show and he just was yelling Infowars.com over people. | ||
| You can't act like that in public and expect that anyone is going to be like, oh, this is a serious person. | ||
| We've got to allow him to sit with us and really talk about ideas and policy. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| You're a fucking showman. | ||
| You're a clown. | ||
| Go do the most that somebody at that kid's table with that kind of behavior could do. | ||
| You're very successful. | ||
| Which is become president, I believe, actually. | ||
| You could become president by acting like a fucking child. | ||
| You're very successful at the kids' table, and I applaud you for it, but come off that shit. | ||
| So we get to the end of this stretch, and it's an interesting portrait that we see. | ||
| I think that, in theory, the problem is solving itself. | ||
| The free market of ideas has rejected him, and... | ||
| No, he would not say that the free market of ideas has rejected him. | ||
| Well, he's at the kids' table, so he can fuck off. | ||
| Well, the problem is that the kids' table and everybody at it right now seems to have guns pointed at the adults' table and we're fucking hostages. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| That's not a pleasant situation. | ||
| No. | ||
| So, we'll see what happens. | ||
| I'm excited for the possibility of Alex going broke. | ||
| I think that could be fun. | ||
| That will be fun. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| But we'll find out as time goes on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It would be nice to have him declare bankruptcy. | ||
| That would be very schadenfreudery. | ||
| It would be an interesting chapter. | ||
| And the fact that even if InfoWars goes under, he could still do a podcast. | ||
| Like, that would be super easy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, that would be a really... | ||
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Yeah, but then he'd be in the marketplace of ideas for real and he would not like that. | |
| That would be a really interesting dynamic or an interesting development to see, like, him go to, like... | ||
| I mean, he never would do this because he couldn't make tons of money. | ||
| But, like, it would be interesting to see what he would do if, like... | ||
| Just like, I got nothing. | ||
| I'm just going to sit here with a mic, humbly. | ||
| I don't think it would work. | ||
| I don't think he's going to do that. | ||
| I think he'll become a farmer and disappear. | ||
| Those two assholes can make a podcast. | ||
| Knowledge, fight, fight. | ||
| I'll just talk about their show. | ||
| That would be awesome. | ||
| That would be amazing, Alex. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| I would love that. | ||
| That'd be awesome. | ||
| So anyway, we'll be back. | ||
| We'll see what happens with this. | ||
| I think I'm going to stick in the present, because... | ||
| This shit's getting wild. | ||
| I want to see where this I'm going broke narrative goes. | ||
| You just love listening to Barnes. | ||
| It's not that. | ||
| I can tell you 100% it's not that. | ||
| It's a form of self-harm, Dan. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| I hate listening to Barnes. | ||
| Unless he's talking about pre-Late Night Snacks. | ||
| Ben. | ||
| I'm interested. | ||
| Hey, get a snack in between dinner and your late night snack, you know. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| At knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Nat, go to Ben Jordan. | ||
| We're also on Facebook. | ||
| We are on Facebook. | ||
| If you want to download the podcast, you can go to iTunes. | ||
| The best way to listen to it that I have found, though, is go to your local mattress store. | ||
| Say something racist. | ||
| The one that is going 50% out of business. | ||
| You say something racist, you will find out that all... | ||
| You know how they always have all those TVs in there? | ||
| All of them will turn on and Alex Jones will appear. | ||
| And out of each of those screens shall come a hand. | ||
| Holding a thumb stick. | ||
| Like the rain. | ||
| And that will be our show. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Yep, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I am the Jesus Lizard. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
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I'm a first-time caller. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |