#319: July 7-8, 2019
Today, Dan and Jordan take a disappointing look at Alex Jones' last few days. Everything about this is disappointing.
July 10, 2019 - Knowledge Fight
01:19:37
Participants
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
|
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I'm Jordan. | |
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
|
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Jordan. | |
| Jordan. | ||
|
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Dan? | |
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| What? | ||
| What was the last wild animal you saw? | ||
| Last wild animal. | ||
| I mean, what? | ||
| Like a bird? | ||
|
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No, no. | |
| You know what I mean. | ||
| Birds are wild. | ||
| I get that they're wild. | ||
| They're far out. | ||
| Well, like in a zoo? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I mean, like, in the forest. | ||
| Like, when was the last time you... | ||
| I was in a forest. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You grew up in Missouri. | ||
| You probably saw Bobcats all the time. | ||
| I lived in Chicago for 10 years. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Well, we have some Bobcats, right? | ||
| One night, I was at a comedy show back when I was doing stand-up. | ||
| And I was down on Fullerton and... | ||
| I don't know what the cross street was, but a ways west on Fullerton. | ||
| Not super far west, but a little ways west on Fullerton. | ||
| And I was smoking a cigarette pretty drunk after the show. | ||
|
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Of course. | |
| And what should I see walking down the street but a wolf? | ||
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unidentified
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What? | |
| Swear to God, I just saw a wolf walking down the street, like, casually, just walking along the street. | ||
| It turns out, like, that isn't super uncommon. | ||
| Really? | ||
| There are some, like, wolves and coyotes. | ||
| You'll see, from what I understand, I've talked to some people who have also seen similar things. | ||
| Also, I wasn't alone. | ||
| This can be confirmed. | ||
| Okay. | ||
|
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It was not a dog. | |
| It was a wolf walking down Fullerton. | ||
| Well, you're preemptively getting all the tweets about people being like, that was probably a dog you saw. | ||
| Yeah, I just, I'm already defensive about my wolf sighting. | ||
| Other than that, I mean, I guess... | ||
| I think seeing a wolf in Chicago is a badass wild animal story. | ||
| Urban wolf? | ||
|
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Right? | |
| Urban wolf? | ||
| Wasn't John Voight in that? | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| The other one that sticks out in my head was much longer ago. | ||
| It was when I was a kid, like, camping. | ||
| I saw a moose. | ||
| You saw a moose. | ||
| Everyone freaked the fuck out for this moose. | ||
| They're huge! | ||
| Yeah, we had to run and get in our, like, minivan because my parents were scared of what the moose could do. | ||
| And up to that point, all my associations with moose were, like, Bullwinkle. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so, like, I didn't think that a moose was a threat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was an adult, I realized, like, they could fuck you up. | ||
| They could really fuck you up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I'm glad we got in the van. | ||
| It was neat to see it from, like... | ||
| Pretty close in the relative safety of a car. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like a moose is a pretty cool animal. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Also, I've been thinking lately about getting an exotic pet. | ||
| Either that or just quitting this podcast and becoming a park ranger. | ||
| One of the two. | ||
| Just an iguana? | ||
| Just walking around with one of the iguanas on your shoulder? | ||
| I'm realizing how much I like plants and animals, quite frankly. | ||
| As I get older in life, I'm realizing I really like animals. | ||
| I really like plants. | ||
| Maybe I should be around them more. | ||
| I think you just really hate this place. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| You'll go anywhere right now. | ||
| Yeah, and that actually is probably something we should bring up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I try and keep my personal life kind of personal to an extent. | ||
| I don't like to complain on this show when it's not about Alex or people who are lying for a living. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But as everyone who listens to the show knows, I had to move in April. | ||
| I moved into a new apartment. | ||
| Immediately, it became a bit of a nightmare. | ||
| For the last three months, I have had incredibly disturbed sleep because of this place. | ||
| The neighbors have been incredibly loud. | ||
| The guy upstairs from me, just like my place shakes when he walks around. | ||
| It's very difficult. | ||
| And so I am moving again. | ||
| That's the long and short of it. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| It is time to get you out of here. | ||
| Towards the end of this month, I am going to have to move again. | ||
| And I hope that there won't be any disruption in terms of the podcast. | ||
| I think it might go a little smoother than last time, possibly. | ||
| Although it is the potential to be way rougher. | ||
| Yeah, true. | ||
| Things could go very wrong, and we will see. | ||
| In the next couple of weeks, there might be some interruptions to the show. | ||
| There might be some disruption of service. | ||
| Possibly, hopefully not, but possibly, just to give you a little warning in advance. | ||
| But it's crucial, because I have to get out of here. | ||
| Oh no, you've been sleeping like three hours every week. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| Some days, it's almost nothing. | ||
| And it's almost a miracle I've been able to keep doing this show, quite frankly. | ||
| No, seriously. | ||
| I have been waiting for you to murder me. | ||
| Yeah, there have been days when I'm running on fumes. | ||
| There have been days when it's just incredibly insane, the various noise pollution aspects of this place. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And various other things that are no good. | ||
| But hopefully it'll be on the up and up soon. | ||
| So sorry if we miss some episodes coming up, but... | ||
| I also am not sorry. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, you know, you gotta get the fuck out of here. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| And one of the things about this is, too, that, like, it's difficult because I am not well off. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so, as these things happen, you know, there's expenses, and it's a challenge, and I really... | ||
| I can't stress enough how much I appreciate the support of people who like this show and donate and keep me able to find a place where I won't go crazy living. | ||
| And so, in honor of that, let us take a moment to pray. | ||
| No. | ||
| Let's bow our heads. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| And we've got to say thank you to some people who have signed up and are supporting the show. | ||
| Oh, that'd be great. | ||
| We appreciate it very much. | ||
| So, first of all, Nick, thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Nick. | ||
| The Nick faction in our listenership is growing. | ||
| One more member. | ||
| One new member. | ||
| Next, Caroline. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Caroline. | ||
| Sweet. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Bad. | ||
| Next, Chris. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Chris. | ||
| Thanks, Chris. | ||
| Next, Hergablerg. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Herker Blurg. | ||
| Next, someone who donated on a little elevated level. | ||
| We appreciate it very much. | ||
| So, Morgan, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Crikey, mate, that's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right? | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimp so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare. | ||
| Infowar on you. | ||
| Thank you so much, Morgan. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much, Morgan. | ||
| And finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on an even more elevated level, and they were so generous, and we had some really nice conversations, and I really appreciate their support and being cool. | ||
| So, Sam T., thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a raptor princess. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
|
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy shark. | ||
|
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Bye-bye. | |
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
| He's a loser little titty baby. | ||
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
|
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I know how to read. | |
| I am out of control. | ||
| I've never really seen a lot of white racism in my life. | ||
| I really haven't. | ||
| I bet you money there are few living black people that have been abused by white people as much as I have been abused by black people. | ||
| Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, both those guys were complete badasses. | ||
| Complete studs. | ||
| I'm cutting off the part where he does the Bernie Sanders impression at the end. | ||
| Yeah, I don't like that anymore. | ||
| No, I don't like it either. | ||
| Thank you so much, Sam. | ||
| We really appreciate it, and thank you. | ||
| I could keep saying thank you. | ||
| Thank you very much, Sam. | ||
| That's what I feel. | ||
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| We would appreciate it. | ||
| Please do. | ||
| So, Jordan, what we're doing today is we've got July 7th and 8th, 2019. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I wanted to check in on the present day, and I felt that the audience would not let us off the hook. | ||
| If we didn't, because of big breaking news in the world, particularly the arrest of Jeffrey Epstein. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I am not particularly interested in covering that because I believe that there are media outlets that can do that much more precisely, much better than I can. | ||
| I'm also not particularly interested in covering Alex's version of it. | ||
| One of the main reasons is because all he does is talk about how Trump never hung out with him and Jeffrey Epstein was just friends with the Clintons. | ||
| And I don't care to respond to that because then it becomes this. | ||
| game of like no Trump did hang out yeah yeah and I feel like that minimizes the severity and seriousness of this situation I honestly think that as good of research as we sometimes can do Yeah, I would say that's a good way of putting it. | ||
| Also, not covering it means my obscenity quota is going to be way lower. | ||
| Quotient. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Ugh! | ||
| Couldn't find the word! | ||
| So, one of the things that's actually kind of interesting is that Alex really doesn't cover it that much. | ||
| I dipped in here on Sunday, the 7th was Sunday, and I expected it to be wall-to-wall, the Clintons going down. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I did. | ||
|
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Oh, okay. | |
| Because it's such a big piece of his worldview, his narratives, that I thought for sure it would just be nothing but Epstein talk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was shocked to find there's not much. | ||
| He doesn't talk too much about that situation. | ||
| He declares victory and claims that Trump's not involved. | ||
| He declares victory. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| I should have expected him to declare victory. | ||
| So Alex is mostly... | ||
| Here's how I would describe it. | ||
| Alex is definitely affected by this news. | ||
| And he's operating off of it. | ||
| But it's not a primary story for him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's on to other things. | ||
| And a lot of it has to do with, like, you know, Trump is great. | ||
| We're so great. | ||
| This is all great. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And I think it leads him to make a little bit of, you know that moment in a Bond movie where the villain says something a little bit too much? | ||
| Oh, are we doing the speech? | ||
| Are we giving the monologue whenever Bond is on the chopping block about ready to die and Alex gives up the whole game? | ||
| I think that this might have shades of that to it. | ||
| This here is our first clip from July 7th. | ||
| I'll say this, and it's not to get heat off my back. | ||
| This is to give everybody really good news. | ||
| We have successfully radicalized the President of the United States. | ||
| CNN's right when they say it's the enforced presidency. | ||
| We have successfully radicalized the Pentagon. | ||
| We have successfully radicalized the CIA. | ||
| I'm not trying to brag. | ||
| It just happened. | ||
| We did it. | ||
| This audience did it. | ||
| Matt Drudge amplifying other shows. | ||
| All of you did it. | ||
| So, I mean, whenever you have protestations from Alex about, like, we aren't some sort of radicalizing force, it's difficult to hear stuff like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And be like, well, I think you kind of are, and you know it. | ||
| You literally know what you're doing. | ||
| You think it's good, but you know what you're doing. | ||
| When people make accusations that what you're doing, Right, right, right. | ||
| Well, you know, the word that people usually put... | ||
| After radicalized is a terrorist. | ||
| Usually that's how people do that. | ||
| So he's kind of saying, like, we turned the president into a terrorist. | ||
| Right, but for Americana. | ||
| And he's not wrong. | ||
| For Americana. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| No, that's still bad. | ||
| Well, see, Alex has a justification for this. | ||
| Terrorism is good? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He has a rationale that is, I guess, basically a, you know, sort of radicalization version of, like, rubber and glue. | ||
| Chicken and egg something. | ||
| I don't know how to mix this metaphor correctly, but here he goes. | ||
| GOP or ISIS. | ||
| To be clear, the globalists are radicals. | ||
| They want open borders, world government. | ||
| They want to break up the family. | ||
| They want a technocracy, a worldwide police state, Islamic invasions, all of this. | ||
| And you can only defeat something that radical by admitting it's radical and taking radical measures against it. | ||
| So, you justify radicalizing the President and the Pentagon and the CIA and your entire audience by your imagined enemies being super radical. | ||
| I have imagined them to be the worst fucking thing in the world. | ||
| Therefore, if I'm the second worst thing in the world, that's better than them! | ||
| This doesn't work. | ||
| This is really bad. | ||
| This is incredibly terrible thinking. | ||
| If you accept this line of thinking... | ||
| It rationalizes pretty much anything you could possibly think of doing. | ||
| Yeah, especially when your justification for it is entirely imaginary. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Unless your imagination is completely limited to a certain point, that basically means you have carte blanche to do whatever you want, anytime, whenever. | ||
| As long as you can come up with some flimsy rationalization for why the person you're doing this because of is somehow worse. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's all you have to do. | ||
| And then, okay, let's bomb shit. | ||
| Because the people we're doing this to stop are terrible. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| No, that's like, hey, we, of course, we have to commit the Holocaust because the Jews were going to kill six million and one of us, Dan. | ||
| We won. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's like there's no bottom. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he does believe that the globalists orchestrated both sides of World War II. | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Why not? | |
| Yeah. | ||
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So, I mean, if you wanted to do a world war against the globalists, you wouldn't be as bad as the globalists. | |
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Because they did their own world war together. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, I mean, no matter of the cost. | ||
| I mean, there were nukes involved in that, too. | ||
| No, they already nuked people first. | ||
| So, in this next clip, we get Alex... | ||
| Clearly indicating that he still believes that Antifa is out there throwing concrete milkshakes at people. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Hasn't dropped that narrative. | ||
| No, no, no, of course not. | ||
| Well, you've got to keep pounding that one, otherwise people will forget that you're supposed to shoot anyone with a milkshake on sight. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This takes up a good portion of his coverage. | ||
| Because the enemy is so radical, we radicalize people, and it's a good thing. | ||
| He must then demonstrate why these people that they're against are super radical. | ||
| And so he talks about Antifa being so terrible out there, their own concrete milkshakes. | ||
| So many people have died at those rallies, right? | ||
| It's interesting because, you know, Antifa gets out of control. | ||
| They do all this shit. | ||
| And then the police do nothing about it. | ||
| And Alex knows why. | ||
| They come out and they have people that they've been looking at who they're planning to target. | ||
| And they go out and they physically attack you. | ||
| And the police stand there and watch it happen because the police are being blackmailed. | ||
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What? | |
| And how are the police being blackmailed? | ||
| Remember, not this year, but last year. | ||
| We got 30-plus pages of secret documents from an Antifa member's brother. | ||
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4chan. | |
| And his family member had ended up having major medical issues and things like that, and it ended up going away for a while. | ||
| And so he was able to get into his apartment and get these documents that he was a leader of Antifa. | ||
| And it was Alexander Soros funding it, real documents. | ||
| And it was in Maryland and other cities, an action plan. | ||
| And one level is you're an actor. | ||
| And you've got liaisons in the Blue City Police Department of the newsstands you're going to attack because they're conservative like Washington Insider or Washington Times. | ||
| No, this makes perfect sense so far. | ||
| Those are the fake fucking contracts he found online that he's using as justification for his, like... | ||
| First of all, I don't understand how that means the police are being blackmailed. | ||
| No, they're being blackmailed. | ||
| He doesn't really explicitly lay out how that relates to this. | ||
| No, they had 30 pages of documents, and now the police are being blackmailed. | ||
| I don't understand what the... | ||
| Again, these documents are fucking fake. | ||
| No one would dignify them with a response. | ||
| I don't think it's in anyone's best interest to deny that these are real. | ||
| That's engaging. | ||
| That's getting mixed up in the tentacles of this bullshit. | ||
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Right. | |
| And you can't do that. | ||
| And the police know that. | ||
| And so does Antifa. | ||
| And that's why Antifa is blackmailing the police with the information that they can't comment on. | ||
| Well, I hadn't considered that. | ||
| See? | ||
| Fucking stupid. | ||
| It's incredibly stupid. | ||
| So insanely dumb. | ||
| Like, just the idea that there would be contracts is stupid. | ||
| If you're doing some sort of a criminal enterprise like this... | ||
| Because the idea is you're supposed to trigger riots. | ||
| That is what these fake documents are for in Alex's narrative of it. | ||
| The idea that some legit corporation tied to Alexander Soros would draw up fucking contracts that would somehow be binding by an NDA is so stupid. | ||
| It's so stupid. | ||
| You have to be... | ||
| Like, so detached from reality. | ||
| You have to be so far gone to imagine that anyone would do that. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| You would just do it without a contract. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| You know when people, like... | ||
| They have mules and drug runners and stuff like that. | ||
| They all have contracts. | ||
| They sign a lease. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Because they're leasing their own rectal cavities out. | ||
| So you've got to get that under contract. | ||
| There are contracts because if something goes wrong, that drug dealer's got to pay workman's comp. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| There are regulations. | ||
| And think about the unemployment insurance thing. | ||
| You know, you sign a contract when you're a rioter. | ||
| You're an acting rioter who knocks over conservative newsstands. | ||
| Because if you do that, You need your job and then Soros doesn't pay up. | ||
| You need documentation. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So you could take him to court. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| To get your pay. | ||
| How stupid is this? | ||
| Think about how efficient that system is, though. | ||
| You're already in court for the criminal trial. | ||
| Right. | ||
| For you doing all the crimes. | ||
| You just go across the hallway to the civil court to sue him for the backpack. | ||
| It's killing two birds with one stone. | ||
| And you've got to consider about how this works two directions, too. | ||
| Because if you're Alexander Soros and you hire some people to start a riot and they don't start a riot... | ||
| Bullshit! | ||
| Right, but if you don't have a contract... | ||
| You've got to call the cops. | ||
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You can't do shit. | |
| You can't do shit. | ||
| You can't go break their kneecaps or something like that. | ||
| You need a contract for it to be enforceable that they did not deliver on the work that you had contracted. | ||
| See, now, hold on. | ||
| You can go break their kneecaps, but you gotta hire somebody to do it for you, and the contract that you're gonna draw up there is twice as complicated as if you just convinced those people to commit the riot in the first place. | ||
| This all grows out of, like, anti-communist bullshit, so I assume there's probably some unearthed narrative Alex needs to make about how they only did the contracts because there's union fees or something like that. | ||
| I have to assume that's coming at some point. | ||
| This is so fucking stupid. | ||
| I hate this shit. | ||
| Whenever I hear this stuff, I'm just like, oh, God. | ||
| I imagined a person listening to this and being like, well, they didn't end up denying those documents, so they must be real. | ||
| Like, I can't imagine how hopeless you must be. | ||
| How far gone you are from reality. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| And Alex capitalizes on it. | ||
| You would be so far gone from reality, somebody would make you President of the United States. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| So, you know, Alex is mad at Antifa. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Which is cool. | ||
| Well, they built their airports too long ago. | ||
| He's also got another complaint about Antifa that I actually think is pretty funny. | ||
| And it falls squarely under that heading of can't use a bullhorn well. | ||
| This is another complaint he has. | ||
| We have one of the Antifa from three different angles. | ||
| It goes on for like ten minutes. | ||
| Can't light a flag. | ||
| With a match. | ||
| He doesn't even know how to use matches and tries to figure that out. | ||
| He didn't even know how to cut his hand over the flag, strike it, and then get it going that way. | ||
| Or that he should douse it in lighter fluid before he came out there. | ||
| Like when I burned you in flags. | ||
| Ever seen me burn one? | ||
| Man, they go up real nice with one lighter. | ||
| Bring a lighter if you're going to burn an American flag on July 4th. | ||
| What are we doing here? | ||
| What are we doing here? | ||
| I mean, hey, he knows how to burn a flag. | ||
| Give him credit. | ||
| Credit where credit's due. | ||
| Is this how we trick conservatives into burning American flags? | ||
| Is we just, we're just incompetent at it in front of them and they're like, for God's sakes, let me do it for you. | ||
| It triggers that masculine thing where you have to help someone light a grill. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
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You have to help someone light a grill. | |
| Credit where credit's due again, though. | ||
| Alex follows this up by being like, they have every right to burn a flag. | ||
| You wouldn't expect that to be his position. | ||
| He has to, though. | ||
| This one, he has to. | ||
| But it's crazy. | ||
| He's a flag burner. | ||
| He's a hypocrite on so many levels, but I do give him credit for explicitly saying that there isn't anything wrong with them burning the flag. | ||
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Right. | |
| He's like, I think it's disgusting. | ||
| I think it's repulsive. | ||
| I disagree with it, but they have every right to do it. | ||
| He does sort of imply that they're just trying to trigger people into fighting them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But that, I think, is a defensible position to have. | ||
| Like, if you believe that, like... | ||
| You know, lighting the flag on fire is trying to bait someone into a fight. | ||
| You could make that argument. | ||
| I mean, I suppose. | ||
| It's implying intentions on somebody that maybe they don't have, but it's certainly much better than it should be illegal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| I'll give him a little credit for that. | ||
| And if he's that good at burning flags, because it really sounds like he knows exactly what he's doing. | ||
| Bullhorns, flag burnings. | ||
| Alex is your guy for those. | ||
| It is interesting to know exactly what things he really excels at. | ||
| Because reading the news, not good. | ||
| Drinking whiskey and clear liquors. | ||
| Because he likes Tito's from time to time. | ||
| Flag burning, bullhorning. | ||
| What else? | ||
| Not spending time with his kids. | ||
| He seems to be good at that. | ||
| Not checking into who he's talking to. | ||
| Seems to be... | ||
| Real good at that. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And that comes into play... | ||
| Emasculating Rex. | ||
| The not checking into his guests thing comes into play as we get to the 8th on Monday. | ||
| Because while he does bring up Epstein a little bit here and there, it's in his standard deflectionary way for the most part. | ||
| Or he uses it just as a launch off. | ||
| Right, of course, of course. | ||
| There's not really all that much to the actual meat of that story, which is why I feel no compunction about us not really talking about it. | ||
| Alex is mostly interested in someone else. | ||
| On his July 8th episode. | ||
| It's a British guy who's an asshole. | ||
| And he's going to be making a major announcement. | ||
| The Freedom Fighter over in the UK has been imprisoned three times. | ||
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Oh, please don't. | |
| In solitary confinement, lost 40 pounds. | ||
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Please don't. | |
| It should have pointed out, it's Tommy Robinson. | ||
| Please don't. | ||
| Just stop, Alex. | ||
| The Islamists have thrown bleach on his face in the prison. | ||
| And he's marked for death. | ||
| They've told him next time they're going to kill him. | ||
| He's been ordered to show up in court next Thursday and they're told he's going to be put in solitary confinement for up to a year. | ||
| The crime? | ||
| He exposed giant child kidnapping, sex rings with children being killed and then chopped up into kebab meat and fed to people on the streets of London and other cities. | ||
| That sounds like a big story. | ||
| He says it's mainstream news. | ||
| That's a big story. | ||
| Yeah, it would be. | ||
| That would be everywhere if that story was true. | ||
| And it was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was. | ||
| So this is an amazing display of sloppiness on Alex's part. | ||
| This is legitimately almost impressive how bad a job he's doing here. | ||
| The story he's talking about is that of Charlene Downs, who was a 14-year-old in the UK who went missing in 2003. | ||
| By 2006, the police began operating off the assumption that she was most likely dead and started investigating the case that way, though a body has never been found. | ||
| Investigators believe that Charlene was known to engage in sex acts in an alley behind a row of businesses in the town she's from. | ||
| And the owner of one of these businesses, Ayd al-Batiki, was arrested for her murder, with salacious accusations flying around that there's no body because they put her into the kebab meat they sold at their fast food stand. | ||
| Oh, so it's racist as shit. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Mohammed Ravishi was also arrested on charges of helping dispose of the body. | ||
| In 2007 both men were acquitted because there was no evidence that any of this was true. | ||
| Well, Charlene did appear to be dead, and everyone sort of took that as the absolute conclusion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that shop that he ran was near a place where she was known to frequent, but the rest of this shit is just gossip and tabloid level shit. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| In 2008, Ayd and Muhammad were both awarded $250,000 by the police in compensation for the damage that the botched investigation did to their lives. | ||
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| Because of rumors like this, they raped this young girl and put her into... | ||
| Yeah, I imagine that his restaurant didn't flourish after that. | ||
| I would think it probably had a little bit of difficulty. | ||
| There's more to this case than is publicly known, even right now in 2019. | ||
| But what is safe to assume is that the story of Charlene being killed and served as kebab meat is not true. | ||
| And Alex has every reason to know that. | ||
| In 2019, Channel 5 made a documentary called The Murder of Charlene Downs that brings up some really troubling details about the case that were not known previously. | ||
| For instance, the documentary reveals that about a week into the police investigation of Charlene's disappearance, they decided that if they did find her, they would not return her to her parents, but instead place her in child protective custody. | ||
| One of the main reasons for that was that on the day Charlene went missing, her parents had invited a pedophile into their home who her dad had met while drinking at a pub. | ||
| The maker of the documentary uncovered a social service report regarding an incident between Charlene and this guy her dad invited to stay with them on the day she went missing. | ||
| But there aren't a ton of details about the nature of that incident, so I'm not entirely sure exactly what happened. | ||
| Holy fucking shit. | ||
| And this wasn't the first instance of the parents allowing abusers into their home. | ||
| The Times reported in 2013 that a 40-year-old family friend had admitted to authorities that he had paid her to perform sex acts on him, and at least 16 men with criminal convictions for rape, assault, or violence had been visitors in their home. | ||
| There were tons of warning signs that she was living in a very unsafe household. | ||
| Obviously, I don't know the details of the case, and there are probably few living people who do know exactly what happened. | ||
| What I can say is that just a very small amount of research would have demonstrated to Alex that the she was murdered and put into kebab story is bogus, irresponsible, was refuted in a court of law, and is only still repeated by anti-Islam agitators who don't care about the truth. | ||
| They don't care about what really happened to victims. | ||
| They only care about using the appearances of these instances to demonize their scapegoat population. | ||
| And that's what Tommy Robinson has been doing for years. | ||
| One of the main groups that has kept the kebab narrative alive, far past the point where any self-respecting person would have accepted that it was bullshit, was the EDL, the English Defense. | ||
| League, which Tommy Robinson founded. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| They are deeply responsible for this not being... | ||
| We kicked to the dustbin of history as just... | ||
| Well, see, the issue is that they're not making it up out of whole cloth. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The kebab part of it was based on... | ||
| I can't remember the guy's name, but it was based on a guy who was like a contractor who said that he overheard Ayd and Muhammad talking about it like we killed her and put her in the kebab, whatever. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But subsequent investigations have found that he is an unreliable source of information. | ||
| There's nothing that confirms this. | ||
| Or in any way lends it credibility. | ||
| And they uncovered some disgruntled business relation between him and the guys who ran this fast food restaurant. | ||
| So he had... | ||
| Motherfucker. | ||
| There were some indications that he would have a reason to create salacious rumors about them based on bad prior working relations. | ||
| Goddammit. | ||
| So the EDL takes that and insists that it must be true as opposed to being like, well... | ||
| There's nothing really to back this up. | ||
| There's a lot of other information that looks pretty fucked up about this case. | ||
| Maybe we shouldn't use this as a banner thing to rally around. | ||
| Seems like all we're doing is being... | ||
| Racist as shit. | ||
| That does seem like all they were doing was being racist as shit. | ||
| That's kind of because that is what they were doing. | ||
| Okay, so what they were doing was being racist as shit. | ||
| And that's why it looked like what they were doing was being racist as shit. | ||
| And it's a real fucking tragedy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because the reality of this situation seems to be a really terrifying case of child neglect and abuse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And instead of dealing with it on the merits and on the information that is available, you just move the guilt over to the party that you want to blame, and it's disrespectful to victims. | ||
| It's disrespectful to people who care. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's the name of the game for Tommy Robinson and the EDL. | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| They do not care. | ||
| They're co-opting victims. | ||
| They do. | ||
| They care. | ||
| They care about being cruel. | ||
| To whomever they want, and they'll do whatever it is they need to to get there. | ||
| They'll use any justification, they'll make shit up, they will fucking do anything. | ||
| And under the radar, under the surface, the cruelty towards people in the Muslim community, let's say, that's very overt and very visible. | ||
| But just underneath that is a cruelty to people who are survivors of abuse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because they're co-opting and using their actual victimhood in order to demonize the larger Muslim population. | ||
| And that's cruel, too. | ||
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Oh, no, of course. | |
| That's fucking insanely cruel. | ||
| Because if you spent any of the time, effort, and resources that you have put towards demonizing Muslims towards helping victims of abuse like this, maybe... | ||
| Maybe you'd keep a few people from getting abused instead of actively hurting people along with diverting any attention to what really could be fixed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Xenophobic and ethnic-based demagoguery is not the solution to... | ||
| The problems of crimes against children. | ||
| Anything. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not the solution to anything. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Other than a Jeopardy question for what Trump is doing. | ||
| But yet, it seems to be all Tommy Robinson does. | ||
| It does. | ||
| So, fuck him. | ||
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| So, I guess there's one clip of stuff about Epstein that I'll play, and it's just because, like, this is insane. | ||
| Like, the idea that Alex is repeating this is insane. | ||
| Trump's been to one party Epstein was at, and he told Roger Stone, he said, I'll pull up, and you're like, isn't it nice to let all the neighborhood kids swim here? | ||
| And then he looked around, and he ran out of the house. | ||
| I don't particularly care to be like, hey, categorically, that's not true. | ||
| Let's look at the other instance. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I only bring this up to be like, Alex is just repeating shit Roger told him. | ||
| And that is not good. | ||
| That is not a good source of information. | ||
| He's not your friend. | ||
| No. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex is spiraling out of control, talking about how the left are vampires. | ||
| Are we vampires again? | ||
| Apparently. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But the left says... | ||
| We're putting them in cages. | ||
| We're torturing them. | ||
| We're the Nazis. | ||
| You are. | ||
| And the truth is, they want that fresh meat. | ||
| They want that fresh blood. | ||
| They want unidentified children so they can snuff film them, torture them, and drink their blood. | ||
| Now watch. | ||
| It's all coming out. | ||
| You're going to see it. | ||
| They drain children's blood. | ||
| They drink children's blood. | ||
| That's just the blood libel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's interesting that he's like... | ||
| They say that we put them in cages and we're Nazis. | ||
| Now let me mirror a big piece of Nazi propaganda that's Jews. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Hey, dude. | ||
| Calm down. | ||
| I hate some of this stuff because it's important. | ||
| It's really insane, the level of stupidity that's on display here around very serious things. | ||
| It's irresponsible. | ||
| It's detestable. | ||
| It leads people into insane stupidity. | ||
| Dumb fucking beliefs that are counterproductive. | ||
| But it's also boring to me. | ||
| It's really insanely boring. | ||
| And a lot of this is stuff we've covered already. | ||
| I would love for this to be an opportunity for us to do a deconstruction of the historical roots of the blood libel. | ||
| But we did it already. | ||
| Isn't it ridiculous how far it's gotten? | ||
| Because we're listening to this and we're like, this is kind of old hat. | ||
| He is literally saying that people are drinking fucking blood and he's lying about somebody eating a fucking child and all of this and we're like, buh, get over it. | ||
| Oh, you're just going out in public to a large audience, lying in an insane way, and they believe you, and we're over it. | ||
| I mean, it is one of the things that by degrees, I think we've become so desensitized to stuff that it's like, I think most right-thinking people could hear almost any of the clips that we play and be like, Fuck it, this dude is crazy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And we're like, no, it makes a twisted sense if you understand white nationalism and propaganda. | ||
| Oh, it doesn't make a twisted sense. | ||
| It's like, well, here's what he's talking about. | ||
| Here's the roots of it. | ||
| Here's why he's saying what he's saying. | ||
| It doesn't make it make sense or good. | ||
| It exists in a context. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it also is just... | ||
| Yeah, I had somebody ask me recently. | ||
| They were like, oh, so you guys don't allow Alex to speak his full piece. | ||
| You know, you cut him out of context and that kind of stuff. | ||
| Sure do. | ||
| And I was like, you need to... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We can't even begin to describe how much context we have given this man. | ||
| I can't even begin to describe every leeway. | ||
| It was one of the guiding principles when I started this. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I was bummed out by how a lot of people don't take him in context, because context makes him worse. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| We are damning him far more than you can imagine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So not only do liberals drink blood. | ||
| We do. | ||
| They also want to, well, particularly liberal women. | ||
| Oh, oh. | ||
| They would like to see beautiful things destroyed. | ||
| You see, liberal satanic women. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They like to see pretty women killed, and they like to see little boys killed. | ||
| That's why the average leftist mother puts their child on Prozac, Ritalin, and they end up trying to institutionalize their boys. | ||
| It's a satanic demon. | ||
| That Munchausen by proxy a lot of things wants to hurt that little boy. | ||
| It's almost like he's talking about an egregore. | ||
| It's almost like you watched something about Munchausen by proxy recently. | ||
| Baron Munchausen by proxy? | ||
| I think so! | ||
| I just think this is insane. | ||
| Anyway, here's more shit talk about the liberal leftists. | ||
| So all of you leftists listening, you wonder why you have empty, cursed lives. | ||
| You come from cursed bloodlines. | ||
| You come from weak people. | ||
| And you think if you get rid of the good, you'll suddenly be on top. | ||
| No, you'll just be even more in the dark. | ||
| There's something to this that deserves a slight unpacking, I think, in as much as, you know, leftists come from cursed bloodlines. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It seems like so much of his distinction of who is and is not a leftist comes down to issues of race. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| There's so much of the SJW stuff as being like an attack on whites. | ||
| In Alex's world, it's very difficult to hear him. | ||
| Whenever you talk about blood, you range. | ||
| You go far too close to stuff that... | ||
| Look, if you say you come from Cursed Bloodlines, you're a Nazi. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| Done. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Unless it's like a sci-fi novel or something like that in another reality. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Unless you're a space Nazi. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| Yeah, that's different. | ||
| Yeah, the full stop. | ||
| That sentence is him saying, I am admitting I'm a Nazi. | ||
| I really think whenever you talk about bloodlines at all, you're in trouble. | ||
| You're already past a point where it's like, are you going to say something good? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Because you're not. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm not positive I've ever heard bloodlines discussed. | ||
| In a benign context. | ||
| Here's the best I can think of for a benign bloodline thing. | ||
| Oh yeah, in my family's history, our bloodline has shown a very patrician nose, is a common... | ||
| Archetype of art. | ||
| I'm not positive that's even good. | ||
| Oh, shit, no! | ||
| Now it sounds like I was talking about Jews! | ||
| Shit! | ||
| Yeah, I don't know if you can do this. | ||
| No, I didn't mean that. | ||
| I meant it in a Greek sense. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Oh, now I'm talking about... | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Actually, there is no way to say bloodline without being racist. | ||
| I feel like it's... | ||
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It's... | |
| Territory I'm not positive anyone can really navigate. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| I already dropped out of that marathon. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex, you know, you got a lot of things working against him. | ||
| You know, you got the world. | ||
| Right, reality. | ||
| The world government. | ||
| You got the leftists. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| You got Antifa out there. | ||
| You got all the Muslims eating human kebabs. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Ooh, Human Kebab does sound like a pretty good band name, though. | ||
| No, it doesn't. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| But in this next clip, we find out he has another enemy, and that is half of all world churches. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'd say half the churches, whether they're Catholic or Protestant, are chaired by a devout Satanist who carries out Satanic rituals daily. | ||
| You know these churches, you can feel it, boy. | ||
| These big megachurches are chaired by devils. | ||
| So, I mean, I don't know how to look at this other than just, like, a direct extension of all of his, like, destroying and impugning any kind of agreed-upon reality, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, anything that gives you a sense of community that isn't connected to his crazy worldview must be attacked in some way. | ||
| Any kind of popular culture that we all share? | ||
| Like, we could talk about the Bachelorette, or whatever. | ||
| That is globalist programming. | ||
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Oh, shit! | |
| Well, I guess we won't talk about that. | ||
| I like to go to my church where all my friends are, and sometimes we have a cookout, and I form a community around there. | ||
| There's a devil running that church! | ||
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Oh, shit! | |
| Well, my whole support group is gone. | ||
| Where am I going to turn? | ||
| Well, I guess maybe I could get involved in local politics. | ||
| Ah, globalists run it! | ||
| It's Agenda 21! | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| Listening to you, Alex, has been great for me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There is nothing that doesn't just, like, every single thing about his rhetoric and his worldview leads you to isolate from everything except things that are tacitly or explicitly approved by Alex, which are almost exclusively... | ||
| Bigotry-related, militia. | ||
| I think he likes the movie Independence Day, so Will Smith is probably cool in his book, right? | ||
| Not a fucking chance. | ||
| Welcome to Earth? | ||
| Come on, that was a great moment. | ||
| I would say he probably thinks he's a globalist. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Alex would probably say that he's a vampire of some sort. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Is he a Scientologist, though? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I remember all the rumors, but it never interested me all that much. | ||
| I never really looked into it. | ||
| So, in this next clip, you know, like, there are fucking devils running half of the world's churches. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Satanism is everywhere, as evidenced by this next clip. | ||
| And also, pay attention, when Alex starts talking about the Louvre, listen to how his voice lilts. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So fucking condescendingly. | ||
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Okay. | |
| This is amazing. | ||
| And it's all in your face. | ||
| The UN building was pledged to Lucifer in New York City. | ||
| Go to the chapel and read it on the wall. | ||
| Says this building is dedicated to Lucifer. | ||
| The Lightbringer. | ||
| The Louvre was dedicated to Lucifer by Francois Mitterrand when they opened the new pink pyramid with 666 pieces of glass. | ||
| This is a satanic revolution we're facing. | ||
| So the 666 pieces of glass is where that real fucking condescending tone came out. | ||
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Yep. | |
| When he's saying something that is not true. | ||
| Oh, look at him doing a thing that he didn't do and I'm just telling you he did. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He can just remember a few base facts that he read on a conspiracy site that aren't true. | ||
| So the UN building isn't dedicated to Lucifer. | ||
| One room in the building includes a sculpture that was provided by funding from the Lucius Trust. | ||
| Now, I should come clean and say that the Lucius Trust grew out of a company called the Lucifer Publishing Company. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But they only kept that name for a couple years, and that was like 20 years before the UN was even founded. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| The people behind the Lucius Trust were theosophists back in the early 1900s, and as such, they had a bit of a New Age-y approach towards spiritualism. | ||
| The name Lucifer Publishing Company was likely chosen because of the light-bringing connotation of Lucifer within the theosophist circles at the time. | ||
| And the name Lucius Trust was chosen as a replacement because it contains the Latin root word meaning light and doesn't evoke images of the devil in people, which allowed them to keep the enlightening meaning of their name and avoid people thinking they worship the literal Christian devil. | ||
| Yeah, they probably thought they were doing such a good job at first. | ||
| They were like, we're gonna be Lucifer and we're gonna do it because Lucifer is all about the light-bringer. | ||
| And then two years later... | ||
| They're like... | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| People are really stupid. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Unfortunately, they were wrong about changing their name. | ||
| People still, like Alex, think that they worship the literal Christian. | ||
| Yeah, they really regret that. | ||
| Either way, even if they did, the UN building isn't dedicated to Lucifer. | ||
| This shit about the Louvre is just made up too and completely inaccurate. | ||
| Alex is just doing a modern day satanic panic here in order to justify being radical against his enemies. | ||
| All this just serves that exact same... | ||
| Function. | ||
| It's just a justification of radicalization. | ||
| That's all this is. | ||
| And a destruction of any kind of art, period. | ||
| Just like you. | ||
| It's the Louvre. | ||
| You're going to go to the Louvre. | ||
| Yeah, go to the Louvre. | ||
| You're just going to be fucking walking into Satan's house. | ||
| It's Francois Mitterrand. | ||
| No, it's wall-to-wall artwork. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| Don't you? | ||
| He loves the renaissance, right? | ||
| It's a devilry. | ||
| Oh, fair enough. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex talks about how Trump is the good guy at the border, and AOC sucks, and then he, I think he does a little bit of a racist voice. | ||
| I'll let you decide. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Trump tries to get more funding so we can find out who these kids are, and the media, and AOC, that demon, drug addict, crypt keeper. | ||
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She goes, They're drinking out of toilets, being mean to them. | |
| These are racist, KKK! | ||
| Because their bosses are saying, you break that border, you get us those kids! | ||
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We're paying top dollar! | |
| Because they need the satanic power they believe to overthrow America. | ||
| So the child's sacrifice reportedly is off the charts right now. | ||
| They're killing kids every five minutes, torturing them, pulling their guts out, having them beg for mommy. | ||
| They got their engines turned up on full. | ||
| What are we gonna do about it? | ||
| I mean, what are you gonna do about it? | ||
| I think the answer is pretty fucking clear if you actually believe any of that dumb bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, the people who are against Trump are killing kids every five minutes and torturing them in order to gain spiritual demonic power in order to overthrow the United States. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, he is so close to Stephen Kelly, the guy who wants to storm the Getty Museum. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because of the Satanist alien base underneath it. | ||
| He is saying the same shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's because it's true! | ||
| Alex Jones has entered the territory of the creepiest, scariest dude who I've ever seen on Project Camelot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex has now reached the point of being, like, really fucking close to a guy who I've watched a bunch of his videos, and I'm like, we can't cover this. | ||
| It's not funny. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's creepy as hell. | ||
| It's scary. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| I mean, guys. | ||
| Just lean into it. | ||
| You want to torture children at the border in order to disincentivize people to come here. | ||
| Just say it. | ||
| We don't need to bother with all this. | ||
| They're trying to become demons, and you're the bad guys. | ||
| You think you're doing it in service of a larger good, I guess, but just admit that you're evil here. | ||
| Now, I'll admit. | ||
| This is bad. | ||
| This is an objectively bad thing that they are doing. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And they know it. | ||
| I agree with you there, but I will admit. | ||
| That I don't know everything about the universe, and should Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez go down to the border and then sprout demon wings, I'm willing to amend my position. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Now, barring major developments in the case, I believe I will stick with my interpretation. | ||
| Stay tuned to this space. | ||
| We will keep you updated. | ||
| On whether or not Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez becomes a demon. | ||
| AOC watch. | ||
| Is she a demon yet? | ||
| Still no. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Still human. | ||
| We'll check in in another couple hours. | ||
| Also, racist or not racist. | ||
| Oh, that's so racist. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| But I don't know. | ||
| I couldn't hear quite. | ||
| To whom it was being racist towards. | ||
| It felt like it drifted a little into Tuscany. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| A little Italian. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| I don't think he's very good at his... | ||
| But also, I felt some breakfast at Tiffany's there, too. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| It was a very racist accent. | ||
| It was clunky and offensive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That should be on his family crest. | ||
| So, he gets into the second hour here on the 8th, and what Alex does is he decides he's just going to hand over the show to Tommy Robinson. | ||
| No! | ||
| Because Tommy has something big going on. | ||
| Isn't he in jail yet? | ||
| Well, he will be soon. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| So, Tommy Robinson is going to have the floor for the rest of this hour. | ||
| I'll intro and outro. | ||
| I'm going to break in seven minutes. | ||
| He sent us a special report video he just compiled. | ||
| He's about to premiere here. | ||
| And this is going to be his... | ||
| Request of the president. | ||
| Well, I'll just let him say it himself. | ||
| Tommy, you're a hero to so many, and absolutely we don't want to see you disappear as they're planning. | ||
| I know you first just want to give the basic facts to the president. | ||
| He'll probably have five minutes to just watch this. | ||
| I know we can get it to him. | ||
| And then obviously you're going to give a report to his staff who can look into the case and see that it's just as bad as stuff that happens in Cuba or other authoritarian states and that you and your family absolutely need. | ||
| Political Emergency Asylum. | ||
| I have the U.S. Code right here. | ||
| We'll go over towards the end of the hour. | ||
| But you have the floor, my friend. | ||
| And so thank you for joining us. | ||
| So Tommy Robinson gets an hour on Alex's program to beg the President of the United States for asylum, which is funny. | ||
| So here in this next clip, Tommy just sort of begins his case. | ||
| I have some thoughts. | ||
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My name is Tommy Robinson. | |
| It's not. | ||
| It's Stephen Yexley lineup. | ||
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Today I'm calling on the help of Donald Trump, his administration, and the Republican Party to grant me and my family political asylum in the United States of America. | |
| I'm sat here today before you to make my case of political persecution. | ||
| Go fuck yourself. | ||
| We aren't going to listen to Tommy Robinson, I'm sorry, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, and his dumb sob story here, because he can fuck right off. | ||
| And I have exactly zero interest in even engaging with his particular brand of bullshit. | ||
| He's made a career off xenophobia, nativist agitating, lying about very serious issues, and overall just being a criminal shithead. | ||
| And there's nothing in his patterned behavior that would lead you to think that any of his actions are carried out in good faith ever. | ||
| For some level of context, last July, on a radio show called Leading Britain's Conversation, even Nigel Farage tried to explain to Steve Bannon, who had expressed support for Tommy, that, quote, everybody hates Tommy Robinson. | ||
| And even Nigel Farage said Tommy did break the law. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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There's something incredibly hilarious in this plan that he's launching here, though. | |
| For years, Tommy's made tons of money by demonizing people who have fled mortal danger in their home countries to seek refugee status in the EU. | ||
| Man, you know what that reminds me of? | ||
| That reminds me of people who are like, free speech, First Amendment rights, no regulation. | ||
| And then those happen to them and they're like, why isn't the president regulating things for me? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| That is something you see real regularly. | ||
| Over and over again. | ||
| So, as for why Tommy is going to prison, he deserves it, and I feel no sympathy for him. | ||
| The Queen's Court determined that, quote, if the court were to condone the live broadcast of these defendants being aggressively confronted as they arrive for court, in conjunction with prejudicial commentary and exhortations to engage in harassment, it would pose a risk to the wider interests of the justice system. | ||
| Which makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When they said that he was encouraging harassment, the court was on pretty solid footing, pointing to a part in the live stream where Tommy says, quote, harass him, find him, go knock on his door, follow him, see where he works, see what he's doing. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to joke that, like, my first joke was going to be like, hey, go harass those people, because, yeah, that's a very obvious way of saying. | ||
| What it is they're accusing him of. | ||
| I thought that would be a facetious joke. | ||
| I thought that would be over the top, Dan. | ||
| It would be too on the nose, and it turns out it is dead on correct. | ||
| Don't believe that Tommy brings up this part of his commentary when defending himself. | ||
| So fucking stupid. | ||
| What Tommy did was not journalism. | ||
| It was a legitimate breach of the justice system and a call to vigilantism. | ||
| Even beyond that, his actions worked against his stated goal. | ||
| He pretends that he was there to cover Muslims who were in grooming gangs, somehow imagining that his live stream would help the prosecution, I guess? | ||
| Without his help, the man on trial was sentenced to 12 years in prison. | ||
| But because of Tommy's interference, that man was almost able to appeal his conviction on the grounds that Tommy's livestream and the ensuing protests surrounding it had biased the jury in his case. | ||
| What Tommy is doing is a legitimate and sincere threat, not only to the larger Muslim community in the United Kingdom, but also to prosecutors who are trying to deal with the very issue Tommy professes to care so much about. | ||
| Like, legitimately. | ||
| He endangered the prosecution of that case. | ||
| He brought a camera into the courtroom, which is explicitly not allowed, primarily because you can use the footage you captured for intimidation purposes, you know, to encourage the harassment of people like judges or juries or council members. | ||
| There's a very good reason to not allow cameras in court, and Tommy knowingly broke that law because of his overwhelming need for attention and his pathological hatred of Muslims. | ||
| He received a suspended sentence for that. | ||
| So, he would only be punished in any way if he re-offended while still under that suspended sentence. | ||
| And re-offend he did. | ||
| He was given every chance not to be in the situation he's in now. | ||
| The UK courts tried to save him from himself, as we saw with the Lion of London Bridge case as well. | ||
| I have zero sympathy for him being held responsible for his actions. | ||
| So, this is one of those situations where... | ||
| You know, when you're talking about prison reform, is it about rehabilitation? | ||
| Is it about punishment, retribution? | ||
| What is the purpose behind the prison? | ||
| And in his case, I feel like prison is the wrong place for him. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| What he needs is exile. | ||
| Take him out of the... | ||
| Deport him. | ||
| Revoke his UK citizenship status. | ||
| I don't know how that would help necessarily. | ||
| I think it would probably lead to him using that as his next narrative. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But like, yeah, I mean, I was... | ||
| As I was listening to this and sort of thinking about it, I was reflecting on it. | ||
| Like, yeah, I don't love incarceration, generally. | ||
| I don't know what the right answer is for a punishment for something like this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know how you deal with someone like him, especially someone who has a decade and a half long career as a street agitator, like with the EDL and the brawling-based political activity. | ||
| The career of xenophobia and agitation, I do not think that he would be receptive to any kind of rehabilitative intervention. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| So does that... | ||
| How does that square with my feeling that I don't think that people generally should be in prison? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think they... | ||
| I guess the only real punishment for these guys would be removing their ability to... | ||
| Like, their platform should be completely... | ||
| You know, like with Jim Baker. | ||
| Jim Baker spent his entire career scamming people out of money. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then he went to jail. | ||
| And then when he got out, he reformed himself and started scamming people out of money again. | ||
| Right, but just with the lesson learned of where the line is. | ||
| Exactly, exactly. | ||
| It's like the quote from Blow or whatever. | ||
| I went into jail with a blah, and then I went out with a blah, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The scamming isn't a problem for most people. | ||
| It's the fraud. | ||
| It's the part where you actually committed an out-and-out fraud that got you sent to prison. | ||
| But that's not even how Tommy would respond to this. | ||
| He's not going to go in for whatever sentence he's going to get and come out with like, alright, I've learned where the line is. | ||
| He's going to push it even farther whenever he gets out. | ||
| Well, when he gets out, if the no-deal Brexit has gone through, maybe he will have a government that's willing to just say, do whatever you want! | ||
| I don't have any real feeling about that. | ||
| I would love to see an overhaul of the incarceration state. | ||
| I would love to see that. | ||
| I'm not here to tell Britain that it needs to do that. | ||
| They're a sovereign country. | ||
| They have their laws that operate however they operate. | ||
| Yeah, the First Amendment. | ||
| I would say that as long as the prison is where people are sentenced to for what he did, I'm not going to go to bat for him on this. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| As long as he's not being held in, like, solitary confinement or being targeted specifically for violent attacks, I don't really... | ||
| I'm not going to cry a tear for his plight. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I want him to be safe and warm and as far away from damage... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As far away from the possibility for him to do damage as he can. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I would sum it up to say, like, as long as he's not being, like, harmed, as long as he's not in solitary confinement... | ||
| If he has to spend two years in prison and that's the only consequence for all the damage he's done in his career, he's getting off really easy. | ||
| Really easily. | ||
| And it just goes to show, like, this is the natural consequence for his intentional actions. | ||
| And when the chickens come home to roost, what do you do? | ||
| You beg Trump. | ||
| And if there's one thing, if there's one thing, if anybody listens to this show and they take away one thing, it is... | ||
| Do not ever give these guys even the slightest benefit of the doubt. | ||
| If you're going to sue them, sue them and go all the way. | ||
| Don't hound Eulakaya and ask for a goddamn apology. | ||
| Destroy these guys if you can. | ||
| I really hate this. | ||
| I hate this shit. | ||
| And it's most of the show. | ||
| It's legit most of the show. | ||
| Well, I gave him a whole fucking hour. | ||
| I had to fast forward through a good bit of it because it's just Tommy Robinson rambling on and misrepresenting his case. | ||
| Yeah, which is completely different from what we're used to on InfoWars. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Well, I mean, I have much less patience for Tommy than I do for Alex. | ||
|
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Of course. | |
| Because at least Alex is the target of my interest. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, even if he's talking shit for an hour and it's boring, there might be something in there that's like... | ||
| Huh, that's an interesting thought. | ||
| And it gives me a greater context to what Alex believes. | ||
| I don't give a fuck what Tommy believes. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| There's nothing that he could say in the course of this hour that will interest me. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He can say whatever he would like to behind bars. | ||
| So Alex has a plan to get around this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And here's what it is. | ||
| Presidential pardon. | ||
| Hell, if you get to the U.S., you can have a show right here. | ||
| We'll get you a work visa. | ||
| I know because of your prior convictions of the other fake stuff for journalism, it's even harder for you to get a visa to the U.S. Well, hell, the liberals do it. | ||
| Prior convictions weren't for journalism and they weren't fake. | ||
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Are you sure? | |
| Yeah, there was that one time he assaulted a cop. | ||
| Journalism. | ||
| His girlfriend who was with him had cocaine on her. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Journalism. | ||
| He was doing a story about how his girlfriend had some cocaine and he wanted to try it. | ||
| I believe he got in trouble for having a fake passport and mortgage fraud. | ||
| Yeah, well that was a story about how he wanted to commit mortgage fraud. | ||
| He's a career fucking criminal. | ||
| It's creative non-fiction. | ||
| Right. | ||
| All the times he's gotten arrested for brawling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He is a... | ||
| No, he's a giant piece of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He really is uniform... | ||
| Like, uniformly, if you... | ||
| Any right-thinking person would know that he's a piece of shit. | ||
| And it's an easy way to tell if somebody is or is not right-thinking is whether or not they think he is a piece of shit. | ||
| Yeah, that's a pretty good sort of... | ||
| A good just general personality test. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's like, you like Tyler Robinson? | ||
| Yep, gotta go. | ||
| Gotta go! | ||
| Bye-bye! | ||
| You believe that ship? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gotta go. | ||
| So, I don't care at all. | ||
| I can't stress this enough. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Tommy Robinson deserves to go to prison. | ||
| If by some way the police decide to give him another shot or whatever, the courts decide, like, alright, we're going to give you another suspended sentence. | ||
| I also don't care about that. | ||
| I'm not invested in him going to prison. | ||
| Like, I would love for him to stop being a shithead. | ||
| That's what I would like. | ||
| I don't think prison's going to solve that problem. | ||
| I don't think him not going to prison is going to solve that problem. | ||
| He's going to be a problem no matter what. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| He's a propagandist with bad faith, bad will. | ||
| He just is a fucking dick. | ||
| I wish he'd have a Saul on the road to Tarsus type moment where he realizes, oh God, this whole career of mine, what have I brought into the world? | ||
| I'm an asshole. | ||
| Right, but he never will. | ||
| So I don't care. | ||
| When Alex is having him... | ||
| I mean, I would certainly probably care a little bit if Trump ends up giving him political asylum. | ||
| I don't think that's going to happen. | ||
| I doubt it. | ||
| But should that development happen, I think I would start to get a little bit more interested in this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But for now, it's just... | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| God, that would be wild. | ||
| That would be... | ||
| Do you know how ridiculous that would be? | ||
| I mean, it's the international version of pardoning Arpaio. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's, but you get, like, really? | ||
| It's an international incident waiting to happen. | ||
| When even fucking Farage doesn't like Tommy Robinson. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| That's why Tommy Robinson could start getting more involved with UKIP once Farage started the Brexit party. | ||
| The two of them are not in lockstep with each other. | ||
| Which is wild to think. | ||
| The UK bigot community contains multitudes. | ||
| Even people who don't like each other. | ||
| Well, it's like there are 15 different accents in London alone. | ||
| None of them get along. | ||
| So I don't care. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Do you care, Dan? | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| But it's interesting to me that Alex cares so much. | ||
| Yeah, that is interesting. | ||
| It's not really. | ||
| I only am doing this to set up a clip. | ||
| Alex cares so much that he allows Tommy to take over his show for an hour, but he doesn't care that much because he's got another guest coming up. | ||
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The jury had to be discharged! | |
| Tommy, Tommy, here's what's happening. | ||
| Here's what's happening. | ||
| I've got Carpe Donctum on. | ||
| This is incredibly important. | ||
| You've still got ten pages of evidence here ready. | ||
| He's cutting them off. | ||
| Because Carpe Donctum is coming off. | ||
| Because who? | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| Carpe Donctum? | ||
| Carpe Donctum. | ||
| Carpe donctum. | ||
| He's a guy who makes memes. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's probably... | ||
| It's a Latin phrase, isn't it? | ||
| Well, I mean, it means seize the donk or something like that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| Seize the donk. | ||
| There are things in my life where I'm like... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let me stay up till three in the morning researching Leo Zagami. | ||
| How about Carpe Donctum? | ||
| Couldn't care less. | ||
| But he's a huge get! | ||
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He's kicking Tommy Robinson off his show! | |
| Because he's got Carpe Donctum! | ||
| Here's what I know about Carpe Donctum. | ||
| He makes memes. | ||
| He apparently won an Infowars meme competition. | ||
| And Trump retweeted that meme. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| So he's pretty much royalty. | ||
| Yeah, in this world. | ||
| In this world, he's pretty much one. | ||
| In this world of shitheads. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And apparently, I don't know how much veracity there is to this, but because the world is so... | ||
| Stupid? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'd believe anything. | ||
| Surreal? | ||
| Trump is holding a free speech internet forum at the end of this week. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And apparently Carpe Donctum is one of the people who he invited. | ||
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Of course. | |
| To this social media free speech. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Meeting of the minds. | ||
| I don't care if that's true or not, because the bigger issue is it makes so much sense it could be true. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that's a world that we're living in. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| This is the dumbest title. | ||
| I sound like a broken record, but I don't care. | ||
| What has he got to say? | ||
| Not a lot. | ||
| Does he have a new... | ||
| Does he have a meme to drop? | ||
| Is this like when Kanye goes on a talk show? | ||
| He's like, I got a new album to talk about? | ||
| No. | ||
| He doesn't have any follow-up memes. | ||
| He's not promoting anything. | ||
| He also is apparently thinking about starting a website. | ||
| I heard that and I'm like, why don't you have a fucking website already? | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| The president is... | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| I want to die. | ||
| Just kill us all. | ||
| How bad are you at your fucking scam that you're running? | ||
| Come on, Meteor. | ||
| Any moment now. | ||
| He has a Patreon, too. | ||
| He doesn't have many donators. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| I really am always surprised when I see people who are in this scam world who aren't doing a good job monetizing their scam. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I don't understand if there are people who think that there's sincerity involved. | ||
| I don't think they get that they're scamming. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think it probably maybe comes down to ambivalence. | ||
| Maybe not knowing exactly the steps you're supposed to take. | ||
| Or maybe I'm just not looking in the right places. | ||
| Maybe a lot of that money is coming in somewhere else. | ||
| Maybe he has a Subscribestar account that has a ton more donors and I just looked at the Patreon and it doesn't have many. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Whatever the case is, who gives a shit? | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I don't fucking care about a meme guy coming on Alex's show. | ||
| Most of it is about Alex being like, hey, we didn't get invited to the social media thing. | ||
| And look, we're not mad about it. | ||
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We're not mad about it. | |
| We got fucking Carpe Doctum. | ||
| He's a friend of ours. | ||
| He's going to be there. | ||
| There's kind of a passive-aggressive thing going on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not super extreme like it sometimes is with Alex's pettiness. | ||
| Yeah, it's not as overt pettiness. | ||
| No, but it's still... | ||
| You can feel it still. | ||
| There is like a... | ||
| Trying to make right the fact that they didn't get invited. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's... | ||
| Whatever it is, it's fucking lame. | ||
| And I don't... | ||
| I sound like a fucking broken record, but I don't care at all. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I know, Dan. | ||
| So he's talking to Carpe Donkdom. | ||
| I don't even like you saying those words. | ||
| I don't either. | ||
| I don't care enough about him to know what his real name is. | ||
| Don't give a shit. | ||
| So he's talking to my man Donks, and in the middle of that conversation, Alex brings back up Tommy Robinson's plight in order to make the situation seem so much more severe than it is. | ||
| I mean, all my camera crew is so freaked out about the Tommy Robinson thing. | ||
| We can all watch the video. | ||
| He's outside politely asking people. | ||
| The press is allowed to do that in the UK, so they are here. | ||
| And then they're putting him in prison. | ||
| I mean, we're all in danger, brother. | ||
| He has created a false version of what Tommy is getting in trouble for to present to the audience to make it appear that just because he... | ||
| Dared point out Muslims are committing crimes. | ||
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And he politely asked about it like a journalist does. | |
| Sure. | ||
| Any of us could be, any of us now, any of us could be at risk. | ||
| Carpe Donctum. | ||
| Yeah, it's insane. | ||
| Man, you are going to be so pissed off next year when you find out that in the late 80s he was a DJ in the Italian scene. | ||
| I'm willing. | ||
| I don't think he's old enough. | ||
| And his best friend was Leo Young. | ||
| I don't think Carpe Donctum is old enough. | ||
| To fit that mold. | ||
| And I just... | ||
| I'll be more disappointed when Pence drops out and it's Trump donk-dom 2020. | ||
| Then I'll look the fool. | ||
| God, I wish that that were far less believable. | ||
| I wish that that were so out there I could never, ever understand it. | ||
| But I swear to God, if Donald Trump just chooses a meme as his running bait, not even Carpe Donctum himself, just one of the memes, he's just going to hold up a meme next to him while he's giving speeches. | ||
| Yeah, that... | ||
| Wouldn't make as much sense as any fucking thing else. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex talks... | ||
| And this is the last clip we have, because he just talks to Carpe Donctum more. | ||
| I can't do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, this just... | ||
| I don't know how to set up this clip, but it just really confused me. | ||
| Trump needs people like you on his staff to help produce memes for him directly that are from the president so they don't dare touch them and they have that imperial glow to them that we need. | ||
| You're a smart cookie. | ||
| And there's a lot of inside baseball we can't get into. | ||
| But I agree with your analysis and the fact that the president said obviously he wants to meet with you some more. | ||
| And what that means is that Trump is preparing to kind of look at the army. | ||
| And figure out and talk to you guys about what should be done. | ||
| There'll be breakaway meetings, and it'll also be a test to see who talks about what, who's an operative. | ||
| Trump's learned about infiltration. | ||
| So he's having these people come to the White House. | ||
| As if it's some sort of Willy Wonka-esque, let's find the snitch game. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's fucking weird. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| And then Alex is like, the military is going to be involved in breakaway meetings. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| This guy makes memes. | ||
| So if I understand correctly, I think what he's saying to start with is that Trump is inviting these people in order to create some sort of ministry of propaganda, essentially. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So that's why these people are coming here. | ||
| That's taken as read. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Now. | ||
| In the middle of that, this is also a test of loyalty. | ||
| Well, Slugworth will show up and ask him to make a globalist meme in the middle of it. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| And I suppose if you make the wrong meme, that's like fizzy lifting drink? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then a bunch of little mini Stephen Millers will show up and sing a song. | ||
| Ooh, that would be... | ||
| Somehow more racist than the already racist river. | ||
| A far more racist depiction. | ||
| I cannot handle the present day. | ||
| We live in the dumbest timeline. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You ever try and wrap your head around it? | ||
| I've stopped. | ||
| I've just decided I can't wrap my head around the world that we live in. | ||
| No, man. | ||
| It's that when the going turns weird, the weird turn pro at Hunter S. Thompson. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's like you just kind of got to lean into it, I guess. | ||
| I suppose. | ||
| Try and retain some semblance of sanity while also like, I mean, where are we? | ||
| How far away from home are we without even realizing the steps we took away? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, it's crazy. | ||
| Every time I walk outside, I hear that... | ||
| But in the minor key, so it sounds fucking ominous, like... | ||
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Every day. | |
| Every day I walk outside and hear that. | ||
| So you're saying it's clown world? | ||
| It's clown world, Dan. | ||
| You know, that's an anti-Semitic meme. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
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What? | |
| How is clown world an anti-Semitic meme? | ||
| We talked about it on the show. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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Shit. | |
| But that's not fair! | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| Everything is an anti-Semitic meme now. | ||
| I mean, that's what fascists and authoritarians do generally. | ||
| It's like Hitler co-opting the swastika. | ||
| It's part of how these things infect areas of life and co-opt them towards their side. | ||
| The OK sign is another example of that. | ||
| It's a strategy of... | ||
| Mild psychological warfare, I guess. | ||
| God, I hate these people. | ||
| So, I mean, we come to the end of this, and I mean, I think, I would assume that people listening probably felt this, but I have completely run out of steam. | ||
| I've run out of interest in this bullshit. | ||
| Not Alex, but like, this present... | ||
| Is much more like the present than maybe how much fun it was to look into Leo Zagami. | ||
| This is indicative of the experience of this. | ||
| You go in and you kind of expect it's going to be awful. | ||
| Because with Epstein getting arrested, you kind of think that there's going to be an awfulness to it. | ||
| You kind of think you know what the version of awfulness it's going to be is. | ||
| And you suit up, you prepare, you're like, alright, I don't want to do this, but here we go. | ||
| And what you find instead is largely Alex just retreading territory that we've covered a hundred times on this show. | ||
| We've covered the blood libel stuff, we've covered his dumb satanic panic nonsense, we've covered Tommy Robinson and his history. | ||
| It's not like, there isn't a whole lot. | ||
| It's like climbing a rock and you just find like, Oh, there's nothing to grab here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, well. | ||
| Yeah, we got to the top of the mountain and then it's like, so we just go back down? | ||
| Is there something up here? | ||
| Was there just satisfaction? | ||
| Just the satisfaction of having done it? | ||
| Boo. | ||
| I would like a prize, please. | ||
| Ultimately, it's disappointing. | ||
| I mean, it's Alex's fault. | ||
| It's not on you or me. | ||
| This is him. | ||
| He did this. | ||
| Although this does seem to be something of a pattern for him, is when there is something where you're like, oh, he's got to have some awful take on this thing. | ||
| Yeah, and he does. | ||
| He does, but then at the same time, it's almost like he punts a little bit, where he's like, I'm barely going to talk about this. | ||
| This is awful. | ||
| I think actually everybody already knows what I'm going to say about this bullshit. | ||
| Right, and I think you do. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| It's like, hey, Trump's not involved. | ||
| It's all Clintons. | ||
| Nail it. | ||
| Lock her up. | ||
| Let's call it a day. | ||
| He's talked about it plenty in the past, Epstein stuff, and the plane and the island, that he doesn't need to cover it when it breaks. | ||
| Instead, you use it as a jump-off point for something else, which is demonizing your opponents, justifying the radicalization against them, and then parlaying that somehow into... | ||
| We've got to save Tommy Robinson from the consequences of his own actions. | ||
| I think that if you look at it, it really feels like Alex is more interested in using whatever current events type coverage he has. | ||
| I think he's more interested in funneling that towards Tommy. | ||
| Tommy is more interested in that than Epstein. | ||
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Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. | |
| Theory, theory, theory. | ||
| All right? | ||
| PJ Dubs technically is leaving, maybe, or has already left. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| But when he does go, Alex is looking for a Tommy Robbs to take over. | ||
| No, because he's already got Dan Lyman doing Europe Wars. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| So he already has that offshoot. | ||
| I don't think Alex could afford Tommy. | ||
| I don't know how desperate Tommy Robinson is, but he worked for Rebel Media. | ||
| I think that he probably would need more than Alex can pay him. | ||
| Yeah, that's probably true. | ||
| And I think that if Tommy doesn't leave the UK, he's going to get arrested again. | ||
| I don't think that's in Alex's best interest, to have him as an employee, because Tommy would constantly be asking for help. | ||
| Well, that's what Alex is saying. | ||
| He wants Tommy to come to the States. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's the whole idea. | ||
| Oh, you don't mean someone in England, just someone who is British. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I think he could find someone else. | ||
| Because I will tell you this right now. | ||
| I guarantee that is how Alex thinks. | ||
| He is like, I am losing a British person who talks like that. | ||
| I need to replace him with another British person. | ||
| I mean, sure. | ||
| I guarantee it. | ||
| I think that there are less baggage having people who have an accent that Alex could slot into that role. | ||
| Right, like Piers Morgan. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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What a coup that would be if he could swing peers. | |
| I know I'm a broken record. | ||
| I just don't care. | ||
| I care about the misinformation and the misrepresentation of stuff. | ||
| I absolutely do. | ||
| I care about the corrosive influence. | ||
| But this isn't very interesting. | ||
| Alex is phoning it in quite a bit. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I resent it a little, because it's a waste of my time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Much better uses of my time than the last couple days of his show. | ||
| It's been shit. | ||
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So... | |
| Oh, man. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Until next time. | ||
| This has been our show. | ||
| Which, you know... | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| We'll be back on Friday, though, with another episode. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed, Jordan. | ||
| We're also on Facebook. | ||
| We are! | ||
| And if you wanted to download our podcast, which you should do, and you could probably tell somebody else, but you can go to iTunes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can go to a direct Libsyn feed. | ||
| You can... | ||
| There are corner bodegas that will charge you $5 extra to get it, but they will give it to you under the table. | ||
| I promise you that. | ||
| So you can do that there. | ||
| Nature hikes. | ||
| Those are fun. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So... | ||
| AOC. | ||
| Still not a demon. | ||
| Still not a demon. | ||
| And, oh, technically has not killed anybody. | ||
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Oh, that's true. | |
| But one guy who technically probably has is Alex Jones. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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