Today, Dan and Jordan continue their exploration of Alex Jones' behavior in the weeks after Sandy Hook, to better understand what happened. In this installment, not much is learned on that front, but the gents finally find shooting that Alex thinks is real, and learn that Alex may think that insects are a conspiracy.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
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I'm Jordan. | |
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Have you ever painted with, like, watercolors or acrylics? | ||
| Have you ever used an easel? | ||
| Yeah, man, I was in kindergarten once. | ||
| Yeah, probably when I was, like, in art classes. | ||
| Because, you know, you have to take art in high school. | ||
| You got those electives. | ||
| But I've never had any artistic ability. | ||
| I can't draw for shit. | ||
| I have no coordination. | ||
| I don't know if I could draw a circle for you right now. | ||
| I could barely do that cool S that everyone drew on their folders. | ||
| To be honest, I'm in the same boat and I've never been able to do that. | ||
| I've always felt very self-conscious about my inability to even do that kind of rudimentary thing. | ||
| I think I never really tried to,'cause my brother was always really good at cartooning when he was younger. | ||
| So it just sort of felt like he had the artistic ability I mean, your question, the answer is yes, technically, probably, but never... | ||
| Never by choice. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Art is a prison for you, I guess, is what you're trying to say. | ||
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Yeah, perhaps. | |
| So I don't know anything about aesthetics or visual creativity, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| And I don't know about either, actually. | ||
| And this is a podcast where I tell you about Alex Jones. | ||
| Can't wait. | ||
| When are we going to start? | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Oh, actually, first, before we do, we should probably thank some people who are supporting the show. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's a smart idea. | ||
| Yeah, this is very nice, and we appreciate it so much. | ||
| So, first, I'd like to say thank you to Nicholas. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Nicholas. | ||
| Next, Sean. | ||
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| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Thanks, Sean. | |
| Next, Brigitte. | ||
| That might not be... | ||
| It might be Bridget, but it's got the E-T-T-E at the end, so maybe it's Bridget. | ||
| Brigitte. | ||
| Brigitte? | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Are we talking Red Sonja? | ||
| No. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I'm pretty sure it's not. | ||
| But if it is, and if it's not, either way, we appreciate it very much and apologize for our ambivalent pronunciation. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Brigitte. | ||
| Thank you, Brigitte. | ||
| Next. | ||
| Exploder button. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Much less confusion about how to pronounce that. | ||
| Yeah, that one's very easily pronounced. | ||
| Yeah, and then finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on an elevated level. | ||
| We appreciate that very much. | ||
| So, Cooper, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Crikey, mate, that's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright? | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimps so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare... | ||
| Infowar on you. | ||
| Thank you so much, Cooper. | ||
| Thank you very much, Cooper. | ||
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| There's a button that says support the show. | ||
| We would appreciate it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So, Jordan, I am back in the past still. | ||
| I was so unsatisfied by the last 2013 episode that I listened to and how sort of vapid they were that I was like, there has to be more. | ||
| There has to be something else. | ||
| So I stuck around because I felt like every time Alex has those Hard lulls. | ||
| Like, just real, like, dead pastures of nothing growing in them. | ||
| Death Valley. | ||
| Generally, that means something's gonna happen. | ||
| I usually feel like he recognizes, I'm not bringing it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He'll give you something. | ||
| I'll tell you, he did give me something. | ||
| I'm not sure what it was, but he gave me something. | ||
| Today we're going over February 6th through 8th, 2013. | ||
| But before we get into that, I'd like to just give everybody a rundown of things I'm aware of in the present day of Alex Jones. | ||
| I was going to say, I can't even help being... | ||
| People really went out of their way to make sure I knew that Rainbow Snatch was back in play. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Rainbow Snatch, Millie Weaver is going out, trolling people real hard. | ||
| Doing it. | ||
| Doing her job. | ||
| Real exciting. | ||
| Whatever she does. | ||
| That actually, whenever people started posting that, that made me want to cover the present so much less. | ||
| Because it's like, what are you doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What is the goal here? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Her and Caitlin Bennett are both going out to, like, Pride events and trying to trick people into signing petitions where, like, Trump supporters go to concentration camps. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's like, you guys are just ripping off Mark Dice's stupid man on the street bit. | ||
| It proves nothing. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's just distractionary. | ||
| It's very... | ||
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Right. | |
| It's lame and desperate for attention on their part. | ||
| I just... | ||
| It makes me... | ||
| I'm not interested. | ||
| It makes me feel like I don't want to be involved. | ||
| You guys do what you're doing. | ||
| Have fun. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| I don't even care. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| It feels beneath me to comment on what you're doing. | ||
| It scares me because the comedy is so bad. | ||
| Or the intent of comedy is there. | ||
| But it's not even... | ||
| You think it is. | ||
| You would assume. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's hard to say. | ||
| You would assume. | ||
| But it would be so... | ||
| Bad that I would slip from, like, mocking it into just outright being mean to it, because I take it as almost offensive towards comedy in general. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I don't want to be mean to Millie Weaver. | ||
| What is she doing? | ||
| You know? | ||
| I mean, maybe you could be mean to her a little bit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| She deserves a little ire. | ||
| She could use a little, yeah. | ||
| So I'm aware of all that. | ||
| Also aware of Alex losing that lawsuit about Pepe the Frog. | ||
| 15K's not enough, but whatever. | ||
| No, it is not. | ||
| No, it is not. | ||
| But it's probably about right. | ||
| In terms of what the licensing would have been for it. | ||
| Again, I admire it when people sue Alex and they're not punitive about it. | ||
| I do appreciate the idea that people are keeping the turf a little bit pure. | ||
| Coming after him and not just trying to abusively take a ton of money from him. | ||
| And from what I understand, Matt Fury was saying that he's going to donate the money to charity. | ||
| It's not even about getting this money from Alex. | ||
| It's more principle of the thing. | ||
| Yeah, good for him. | ||
| And so, yeah, that's great. | ||
| And Alex, his attorney, your best friend, Barnes, he's come out and declared victory even though they had to pay $15,000. | ||
| Good work, Barnes! | ||
| He is a spin artist. | ||
| And also, just before we started recording, I got to update that Roger Stone is back on the show. | ||
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What? | |
| No! | ||
| He can't even! | ||
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What? | |
| No! | ||
| Apparently, maybe there's some things that aren't covered by his gag order that he can comment on. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So we'll talk more about that. | ||
| They're doing a Mark Richards episode, I think. | ||
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Could be. | |
| That'd be great. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Roger Stone has made contact with Raptors. | ||
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Yep, yep. | |
| So we'll talk a little bit more about that probably on Friday's show. | ||
| We'll probably do a present-day one with a little week wrap-up as best we can on Friday. | ||
| We'll get to the Raptor Stone business. | ||
| Yeah, but I just couldn't muster it, and I wanted to stick around and see if Alex fed me something really fucked up after that terribly... | ||
| Dull stretch. | ||
| You had a bad taste in your mouth. | ||
| So we get here, and we're going to start on the 6th. | ||
| And Alex delivers almost immediately. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| He is weird. | ||
| Brings the heat. | ||
| On the 6th. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He is in a very strange mood, and he has found some science news that he does not understand. | ||
| And, oh man. | ||
| Major scientific institutions have come out, and they've cross-referenced each other's research, and it appears that... | ||
| Light waves and other matter is in some type of ordered format that appears to be coded, coded, and appears to be a simulation. | ||
| That's why so many top scientists who were atheists got into the 96% of the DNA, and we've done reports on this, that they thought was junk and found all the coding in there and got religion very, very quickly. | ||
| Is that how that worked, Dan? | ||
| Life did not come out of nothingness. | ||
| And then the atheists say, well, it must have been seeded here from deep space. | ||
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Could have been. | |
| Well, where did that life come from? | ||
| And then where did that life come from? | ||
| Deeper space. | ||
| What is the universe? | ||
| It's turtles all the way down, Dan! | ||
| It is the thought of the creator. | ||
| It is... | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| God thinks and it is created. | ||
| It is a simulation of the mind of God, but we are creations with free will made in the image of God. | ||
| And imagine, we are genetic expressions but endowed with a spirit by God. | ||
| Who are able to then decipher the coding, we've now gotten to that point where the scientists are saying there is no God, and they're deciphering the coding and going, this whole thing's a simulation. | ||
| This is designed. | ||
| This is coded. | ||
| What is this? | ||
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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. | |
| And I already knew that because I've read the Bible. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| We're in trouble. | ||
| We are in trouble. | ||
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So he knew that the world was a simulation because he read the Bible. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| This is a mess. | ||
| How far into the broadcast? | ||
| This is pretty early. | ||
| This is like the first 20 minutes? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Maybe after the first break. | ||
| Because he still, even back in 2013, had that radio clock where the first couple minutes aren't on all the radio stations. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So he usually gets good at about the 8 minute mark because that's when everyone's listening. | ||
| That's when everybody's back on. | ||
| Yeah, there's a little... | ||
| So he's from like 0 to about like 5 minutes. | ||
| That's just that no man's land that's usually station IDs and stuff. | ||
| Then commercial break comes back at 8 and then BAM! | ||
| Yeah, so it's somewhere around there, I believe. | ||
| It's pretty early. | ||
| He's getting into the simulation news real fast. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| And this isn't news. | ||
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No, no. | |
| This is not going to go well. | ||
| This is not going to go well. | ||
| It shouldn't surprise us, though, at all, the idea that Alex has figured out that some people believe the world is a simulation and that he's turned it into proof of his version of God. | ||
| Yeah, I'm shocked that it took until 2013 for us to get there. | ||
| I bet he's dabbled in this before. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| I'm not really sure why he's bringing it up now, because most of the stuff he's talking about is from an article that came out in Wired. | ||
| So even this is months old stuff. | ||
| And that article was discussing some recent research into cosmic ray particles. | ||
| The researchers studying the particles found that they had a limit to how much energy these particles can have. | ||
| And that limit appeared to be arbitrary, which the article presents as possibly representing evidence of built-in limits in the physical universe that are part of the parameters that we're a simulation within. | ||
| Right. | ||
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However, the article isn't written by a lunatic. | |
| So it also points out, quote, it could be, though, that we're incorrectly interpreting evidence of certain fundamental laws that we are as yet unfamiliar with. | ||
| It could even be that this isn't evident. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's really... | ||
| Long story short, physics... | ||
| That's a crucial thing here. | ||
| It's really fun to imagine that we live in a computer simulation and the matrix is real, but more measured analysis has to include the possibility that we just don't know anything about the things we're studying yet. | ||
| Scientists often include this restraint, but it's a real deep human tendency to take something that could be suggesting some new finding of science and act like your interpretation is supported by the scientists'work. | ||
| When I hear Alex talking about the This article, that's all I really hear. | ||
| He wants to believe the world is some kind of a simulation. | ||
| So he takes this article as mainstream proof that it definitely is, intentionally ignoring the part about how it's totally possible these are just rules of cosmic particles that we don't understand. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And he brings Paul Joseph Watson in to talk about it. | |
| No! | ||
| What? | ||
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No! | |
| He comes in. | ||
| He has a very boring appearance on the show. | ||
| But yeah, it's insane. | ||
| It's a real religiosity streak that's going on. | ||
| I get why that's the thing that the religious tack on to it. | ||
| Because as science starts to understand more and more about how things work... | ||
| Even they're going to eventually have to turn to why things work the way they do. | ||
| You know, when you start talking about why is the universal constant the speed of light squared? | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because that's what it is. | ||
| You know, eventually you're going to have to get to, can the universe exist without these rules? | ||
| Is there universes that do? | ||
| Are we in a long string of possible universes and some of them have these rules and some don't? | ||
| Nobody knows. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So God slips in at the very end and is like, hey, guess what? | ||
| It's Jesus. | ||
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Boom. | |
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| I don't not enjoy the occasional thinking about this stuff. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But I also don't like what Alex is doing with it. | ||
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| So I'm going to play the wall over here. | ||
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Let's do it. | |
| I didn't do his bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he talks a little bit more about this. | ||
| And this is where he kind of gets into, like, there's already shades of religion to his talking about the simulation theory. | ||
| but here's where it gets deeply fucked up. | ||
| Scientists and research firms and universities have done huge computer Computer breakdowns on cosmic rays, light rays, you name it, and are finding the same signature of encoding or that it is a simulation. | ||
| The DNA has it in there. | ||
| They found out it's not 96% junk. | ||
| It is an incredible crystalline antenna system with DNA sequences of all sorts of other... | ||
| Life forms in it, and that's why so many people that are atheists, and what does atheist mean? | ||
| It just means you're closed-minded. | ||
| And you're sick of seeing fake preachers up there with limited spectrums or fake religions trying to interpret the true spirituality of the universe, which just means we are aware of things being much larger and that we don't have all the answers. | ||
| And some Bible-thumping Christians will say, what? | ||
| You're not subscribing to some Southern Baptist interpretation? | ||
| I'm a radio talk show host who happens to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ. | ||
| But the issue here is, if you didn't beat people over the head, they would become spiritual, which is the first step in awakening. | ||
| One of the quickest ways to awaken. | ||
| You can wake people up politically, and then... | ||
| They tend to wake up spiritually, and that's really my goal. | ||
| I didn't do that on purpose, but now I'm a little bit more wise than I used to be and understand why God has used me as a tool. | ||
| So, do you understand? | ||
| This is starting to develop a little bit in 2013. | ||
| We've heard now a couple times that Alex has said that this is a primarily evangelical quest that he's on. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Even talking about, like, I wake people up politically and then they wake up spiritually. | ||
| As if the political stuff is almost just... | ||
| A way of Trojan horsing his version of God on people, which is fucked up. | ||
| That's creepy as shit. | ||
| It's really weird to think about, like, maybe there is something that that's his primary driver. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, just trying to win souls or whatever. | ||
| Full-on evangelism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, that's the idea. | ||
| He feels like his life's work is to follow through on Peter's fucking call to action. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe, I mean, I would say, obviously, by the present day, he's lost the thread. | ||
| Yeah, well, yeah. | ||
| That's not at all what he is. | ||
| Well, I believe one example of him losing the thread is basically what he said is that atheists watched all those bad preachers and were like, there's probably no God. | ||
| They just don't know that our DNA is a crystalline transmitting machine. | ||
| And if they knew that, then we would never have atheists anymore. | ||
| Well, they're just not curious or something. | ||
| Yeah, closed-minded. | ||
| Closed-minded, yeah. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure what he means by a crystalline network of antennae, but I did hear him say that there's other life forms, which leads me to believe he thinks there's alien DNA that's mixed in with our DNA, which is... | ||
| Dangerously close to Carrie Cassidy business. | ||
| I think what he's referencing is the... | ||
| I can't remember... | ||
| Exactly what it is. | ||
| Panspermia? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The viral RNA kind of idea of certain genetic material doesn't get destroyed in viruses and maybe it was attached to a meteorite. | ||
| But he's mocking that idea. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| He's mocking the idea of DNA coming from space on asteroids. | ||
| But of course, if we have alien DNA inside of us... | ||
| It has to come from somewhere. | ||
| Or aliens were here before us, Dan. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Oh, he is friends with Mark Dice, who's on Ancient Aliens. | ||
| That could be it. | ||
| Oh, he's also friends with George Norrie, who's on Ancient Aliens. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| So, in this next clip, he talks a little bit more about that, and I really think that you can get some strong indications that all he's really interested in in this simulation theory narrative is using it as a jump-off point to preach his version of Christianity. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Science is increasingly showing that it is the case that we're probably living inside an artificial... | ||
| Well, the universe was void, and then God spoke it, thought it, and it was made. | ||
| And that's what they find in every discipline now, is that it's designed, and the human word computer isn't even proper in all of this. | ||
| There is a governing structure. | ||
| They can see the modulation. | ||
| And off of the projection of the time-space continuum, off of just one of the readings, these cosmic rays, they continue to see particles that should be flowing at different rates and modulations with an overall modulation, and they can tune it and begin to see the structure of the containment system. | ||
| I stopped listening. | ||
| And it's contained within the thought process of the creator, of God, of the great architect, as the Illuminati calls it, but that's actually a biblical term, which they've stolen. | ||
| And so it is the construction, and what does the creator tell us? | ||
| You are made in my... | ||
| You are creators as well, but small creators. | ||
| And so it is literally the consciousness and the will of God creating all of this, but then giving us free will, which is then flowing forth a whole new level of creation. | ||
| Well, precisely. | ||
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Glad we got PJ Dubs agreeing there. | |
| I just... | ||
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You can respond to that with, well, precisely. | |
| You bet, Alex. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| No matter what you say, it's kind of dismissive. | ||
| It's almost fundamentally dismissive. | ||
| Yeah, should we pause this podcast so I can get high... | ||
| So I can understand what's going on here? | ||
| Yeah, it feels like we should be in a college dorm or something. | ||
| There's a real sense that Alex is just on some real spiritual business at the beginning of this episode. | ||
| Ayahuasca. | ||
| That's one possibility. | ||
| Another possibility is just he's out of his league in terms of understanding these stories, but he still wants to report them. | ||
| They're kind of in his wheelhouse. | ||
| The best way to do that is to strip all context from it and just like... | ||
| God. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Which I think is probably a good way to do it. | ||
| Yeah, he's taking a space weirdo story and turning it into a God weirdo story. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| He's not going to alienate any of his audience by doing that either. | ||
| They're like, oh my God, this is alien. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Simulation must mean God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he jumps off this, though. | ||
| It doesn't take the whole show. | ||
| It's just the beginning, although he does touch back on it over the course of the show. | ||
| Keeps the plate spinning. | ||
| We're in a simulation. | ||
| God's great. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But before he moves on to his next bit of business, He's got to tell you about how successful he and Ted Anderson are as business people. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And then again, Genesis has always been a mom-and-pop operation. | ||
| Now it's arguably the third or fourth largest syndicator in the country. | ||
| I talked to Ted last week and got the actual numbers. | ||
| Guess how many affiliates Genesis has? | ||
| 13 plus 100. | ||
| 1,300 radio stations. | ||
| 1,300 different ones. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| I find that almost impossible to believe. | ||
| I don't understand why you would think that number is possibly inflated. | ||
| Well, primarily because it makes Almost no sense that if GCN is, they syndicate to 1,300 stations, why would Alex only be on one-sixth of them? | ||
| Sure seems weird, doesn't it? | ||
| By his own count, he's only on like 200 radio stations at this point. | ||
| We know that he offers completely free syndication. | ||
| So why would those 1,100 other stations not air the most popular show on the network if it costs them nothing? | ||
| The oldest snapshot you can find on the Wayback Machine of the GCN affiliate list is from October 14, 2014, and the number they're claiming is substantially smaller than the one Alex is claiming. | ||
| They allege to be working with 641 radio stations, of which Alex is on 100. | ||
| Weirdly, still consistent with that one-sixth number. | ||
| Fun trivia, Joel Wallach, the veterinarian who pretends to be a human doctor, has a radio show on GCN, but it's only on 12 stations. | ||
| Peter Glidden, that fake doctor that we talked about on the last episode, has a show, too. | ||
| It's only on three stations. | ||
| Also, Webster Tarpley's show, World Crisis Radio, similarly, only on three stations. | ||
| That can't be... | ||
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Why? | |
| What? | ||
| What do they run on other stations? | ||
| How can they have 600 stations? | ||
| They have a ton of shows. | ||
| What do they do? | ||
| They have a ton of shows that are on, like, a tiny amount of, like, small markets. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They offer a lot of stuff for... | ||
| As I understand, the primary business model is free syndication, and then you make ad revenue off them. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| He created podcasts. | ||
| It's not as free. | ||
| There's not as much freedom. | ||
| I don't want to give him credit for that. | ||
| I actually misspoke earlier also. | ||
| I said that Alex was the most popular show on the Genesis Communications Network. | ||
| I guess I just kind of always assumed he was, since he's the largest profile host on the network. | ||
| But going through those affiliate lists, he's not the most widely syndicated show on GCN. | ||
| It's the Great British Bake Off. | ||
| No, it's Free Talk Live, a libertarian-leaning call-in show. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| GCN would go on to cross the mark of being on over 1,000 stations by August 2018. | ||
| But what's fascinating is that if you look over these affiliate lists, the network itself is expanding, but it doesn't appear that Alex is doing the same. | ||
| He's constantly hovering around the 100 to 120 stations mark, even as GCN had added 400 new stations. | ||
| It really appears that the growth that the network is seeing is around other shows, not Alex's. | ||
| There's a very... | ||
| Real possibility that he reached his potential already in 2013, and networks weren't even interested in airing his show for free. | ||
| I think there's a decent possibility. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| There's two things that I think could explain that. | ||
| One is Alex's incredibly toxic brand. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| That I think even back then, even though he wasn't such a monster and everybody knew it, you still might not want his show on your network. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You might know of some of the stupid things he said. | ||
| Or you might know somebody who's worked with him in radio and be like, don't work with that guy. | ||
| There's all kinds of possibilities. | ||
| And it only took 10 years for YouTube to get there. | ||
| Good work, guys. | ||
| The second possibility is that advertising might cost a ton more on his show. | ||
| So even though it airs for free, the syndication is free, finding sponsors that would be willing to buy ad time during his show on your network might be prohibitive from a cost standpoint. | ||
| Yeah, you still have to have good salesmen getting that. | ||
| It's just Alex taking the burden onto you. | ||
| You can air my show for free, but good luck paying the ad buys or whatever. | ||
| So there's a lot of possibilities, but it turns out he's not the biggest thing at GCN, which kind of blew my mind a little bit. | ||
| I always really thought, and I think he probably was way back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Early 2000s that Free Talk Live started and I think maybe had a little bit more, maybe they're less toxic, you know, less abrasive, less baggage to them, but still libertarian. | ||
| Yeah, but it seems like if they are so much bigger for GCN, their cultural footprint is ultimately nothing compared to Alex's. | ||
| I bet it's big in some circles. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, the terrestrial radio circles probably aren't as plugged into the YouTube culture of the 2013s. | ||
| Yeah, they're not as controversial. | ||
| You can have something that's pretty popular, but if you don't make waves, then people outside of the audience may never actually become aware of it. | ||
| Right, like our show. | ||
| Yeah, I'm willing to bet that that's a possibility with Free Talk Live. | ||
| It's just way outside our radar. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So also, what Alex is saying about GCN is a bit misleading. | ||
| He's saying that they're like the third or fourth largest syndicator of shows based on number of stations. | ||
| But even if they were, which they're not, that's a shitty metric for claiming that you're a huge company. | ||
| Like, Premier Networks, they had over 5,000 radio station affiliates and had way, way higher numbers. | ||
| They worked with people like Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Hannity, Ryan Seacrest, and Coast to Coast AM. | ||
| What they were doing is a completely different ballgame than like... | ||
| GCN putting Young Jevity fake doctors on a radio station in Barstow, California. | ||
| It's a different game that they're playing. | ||
| Also, Salem Radio Network had about 2,000 affiliates at that time. | ||
| Westwood One had over 8,000 stations. | ||
| So even if you accept Alex's 1,300 number, it's still far below the main players in the radio syndication game. | ||
| He hits 400 in single A ball, but if he ever got called up to the majors, he'd get rocked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, you know, I think this is an indication of Alex feeling pretty good about the business, feeling pretty full of himself. | ||
| And it gets so good to him that he starts talking about this new shirt that he has, which is the Come and Take It, the Molon Labbe shirt. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| With a gun on it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, there's that wrestling term, putting someone over. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| When you're like, they're better. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He puts his own shirt over something you would never expect him to. | ||
| His children? | ||
| I mean, it's a big, color-formatted, glossy magazine. | ||
| The first issue was newsprint, and it's got a big poster. | ||
| It's got the poster in the middle of the AK-47 saying, The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed with the words inside the gun and the come and take it. | ||
| That is great to hang up at work or the office. | ||
| You know, to put in legal and lawful areas and public commas where people hang up posters. | ||
| Look at that baby. | ||
| I love how this Texas symbol of come and take it is becoming more popular than even the Gadsden flag. | ||
| So that's at Infowarsstore.com. | ||
| You know, he's talking about the magazine and the poster that's in it, but it's the image from the shirt, and that's how it's become so popular. | ||
| He's putting it over the Gadsden flag, man. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's legendary Patriot stuff. | ||
| He's like, ah, bigger. | ||
| This is a great shirt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is a great shirt. | ||
| So much better than the Gadsden flag that I basically pledge allegiance to. | ||
| Well, the Gadsden flag, you know, it's got a lot of baggage, but this shirt about come and take my guns, that one's a fucking blank slate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I like living a life where I don't have to say legal and lawful places all the time. | ||
| I like to never use legal and lawful places. | ||
| There's so many times. | ||
| I wish I would have cut these clips, but I don't know why. | ||
| I didn't think to. | ||
| He's doing free bumper sticker giveaways, and it's like, well, it sends you 50 bumper stickers, but you've got to promise not to put them on other people's cars. | ||
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Can you not distribute a bumper sticker without getting a waiver? | |
| You do not trust your audience. | ||
| You have to promise not to... | ||
| Hey, guys. | ||
| Stop it! | ||
| But I appreciate it. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's the donut all over again. | ||
| I heard it once and I was like, oh, that's weird. | ||
| And then he kept saying it. | ||
| This is... | ||
| He might have gotten sued or something. | ||
| Yeah, he's got a lot of cease and desist letters. | ||
| Yeah, he might have gotten a letter. | ||
| So, for a large stretch of this show, he starts with that simulation nonsense, and then for a lot of the show, he is clowning. | ||
| He is doing goofy bullshit. | ||
| He's doing stuff that clearly is a joke. | ||
| He's talking to callers. | ||
| He interviews that lady. | ||
| He has this big news story where a woman got arrested for not letting people come and install a smart meter on her house. | ||
| And he interviews that lady, and he keeps calling her a dissident. | ||
| But do it as a bit. | ||
| You're like, oh, look at this terrorist over here. | ||
| He's doing a lot of that. | ||
| Doing the other side, like, satirically. | ||
| Yeah, he's testing the limits of the simulation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can tell he's really having a ball. | ||
| Well, great! | ||
| Well, it's not so great, because he explains why he was having fun towards the end of the episode, and it's not healthy. | ||
| And you see these anti-gunners. | ||
| I mean, they're a bunch of sniveling piles of dog crap. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| I'm sick of you people! | ||
| I'll tell you the real reason I've been screwing around all hour and making jokes is because I'm actually in a rage, man. | ||
| I'll tell you right now, I'm sick of these people. | ||
| Sick of them. | ||
| I know who they are. | ||
| I know what you're doing. | ||
| I'm sick of all your crimes. | ||
| Sick of what you're doing to these people. | ||
| I'm tired of your frauds. | ||
| I'm angry. | ||
| I want to bring you to justice. | ||
| You will be brought to justice. | ||
| Allen in New Jersey, you're on the air. | ||
| Yuck. | ||
| That's very fake. | ||
| That's actually how I end all of my sets. | ||
| I'm like, hey, listen, guys. | ||
| I've been doing this 42-minute long set, but I'm going to close telling you why I've been so funny. | ||
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Because I am angry, and I will catch all of you. | |
| I will destroy all my enemies. | ||
| Y 'all have been great. | ||
| Hey, it's a good time. | ||
| I've been Jordan. | ||
| Hey, Cleveland. | ||
| I'm selling a shirt that says, come and take it. | ||
| It's got a gun on it. | ||
| It's bigger than the Gadsden flag. | ||
| I'm actually selling the Gadsden flag, too. | ||
| Come find me at the merch table. | ||
| Yeah, I don't like that. | ||
| I mean, it rings very false. | ||
| That's a very performative anger that he's putting on. | ||
| But also, in his mind, he feels like he has to rationalize having fun. | ||
| And that kind of bums me out. | ||
| You can't just have fun for the sake of having fun. | ||
| No. | ||
| Sucks. | ||
| Oh, that is a bummer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's because this is an evangelical quest for him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As he made clear at the beginning of the episode, all of this is really secretly about getting people to accept his version of God. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's why, at the end of the show, he takes this call, and it really, really bummed me out. | ||
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Yeah, a little inspiration to you. | |
| You sounded a little down. | ||
| I asked God for guidance and to show me the right way, and Fran pointed me in the direction of your show. | ||
| So I think God's using you. | ||
| He's using you as a tool. | ||
| Well, as out of control as I am, I am that imperfect tool, and so are you, to ram up against the enemy. | ||
| And that is my job. | ||
| I know that I'm doing God's will. | ||
| Yuck. | ||
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Yuck. | |
| Anybody who knows they're doing God's will is somebody who is probably almost 100% not. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially when they're fucking Alex Jones. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| 100% of the time, Alex Jones believing he's doing God's will is fucked up. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| So, Alex takes the seventh off. | ||
| He just is gone. | ||
| Just gone. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| He goes and shoots a bunch of guns and does some fishing. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| As he is told, he tells us when he comes back. | ||
| Did he take Rex? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He actually does mention being with a friend. | ||
| I don't know how old Rex would have been at this point. | ||
| You're never too young to shoot guns, so that shouldn't be a qualification. | ||
| Yeah, fair enough. | ||
| I bet he did. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
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Who cares? | |
| It's fun. | ||
| Every time he's trying to go out with Rex, he's canceled, and this time he does go out with Rex. | ||
| Or he calls in his show and tells Paul what to do. | ||
| Aaron Dykes hosts, and that means I turned it off after a few minutes. | ||
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Good call. | |
| Don't care. | ||
| That guy has no chops. | ||
| So we get back on the 8th, and Alex does something that blew my mind. | ||
| This I can't understand. | ||
| And I'll explain why on the other end of this clip. | ||
| And it gets like this more and more every day, but today is a particularly, absolutely jam-packed, absolutely crammed, loaded, stacked broadcast. | ||
| On so many fronts, we're going to report it all. | ||
| The reported cop killer of these three police officers out in Southern California, former Navy veteran and police officer they ran out of the force a few years ago. | ||
| Who they claim has put out this manifesto saying he's going to go after their families. | ||
| I've read both of his manifestos, if they're real. | ||
| And let me tell you, if they're not real, the person deserves a Nobel Prize for Literature because it sounds exactly like the MO of these mental patients that the system is now tracking and looking for and sifting through who think it's celebrity to be a cop, who are into the power trip. | ||
| How much he loves Biden, Obama, how he fantasizes about Hollywood, how he wants us to turn our guns in, but he's going around saying he's going to kill innocent patrol cops. | ||
| I mean, he's going to kill people, which I'm not saying he should do. | ||
| Go after the guys he says did something to him. | ||
| No, he's just randomly shooting patrol cops, reportedly, allegedly. | ||
| And I've been studying it since yesterday afternoon. | ||
| Just in a snapshot view, it looks like it's a real shooter. | ||
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Weird. | |
| What? | ||
| So I find this profoundly weird. | ||
| What is going on here? | ||
| So Jordan, certain patterns have developed about Alex's personality in the time that we've been watching him. | ||
| Not only his personality, but his style as a broadcaster. | ||
| You can get a sense for the sort of stories that he prioritizes, what sort of angles he'll take on said stories, and what stories he knows that he's better off just leaving alone and staying away from. | ||
| This story that he's talking about is the story in the news about Christopher Dorner, who was a guy who killed some police officers, and there was an ensuing manhunt. | ||
| That is squarely in Alex's wheelhouse as a story he would cover, and one you would expect he would make the biggest deal out of. | ||
| Is the guy black? | ||
| We're good to that. | ||
| I'm not saying it explains everything, but it is. | ||
| For the entire time since Andy Hook that we've been covering, Alex has been so consistent in his claims that the globalists are about to pull off another huge false flag to take away his guns. | ||
| He's interrupted his own broadcast multiple times because there were school shootings that he thought he could make fit that mold. | ||
| So here we have someone who's systematically murdering police, which you would definitely think would be something he could work with. | ||
| But how does Alex respond? | ||
| This episode is from February 8th. | ||
| At that point, police had been searching for Dorner for five days, and this is literally the first time I've heard him bring that story up. | ||
| He was on vacation for one of those days, but, yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| Why? | ||
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What? | |
| How? | ||
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Huh? | |
| There is no reason for this not to be on Alex's radar. | ||
| The first killing was on February 3rd, and by the 4th, that manifesto had been posted online. | ||
| But listening to Alex's show on the 6th, he's just yelling about the world being a simulation and talking all this weird shit about God and joking around with collars because he's so angry. | ||
| What makes this even more insane is that what happened after the shootings began is almost exactly what Alex yells about all the time. | ||
| The L.A. Police Department was very desperate to resolve this manhunt, considering you had a dude who had extensive military training and a willingness to shoot at civilians, so in their desperation they made some mistakes. | ||
| On February 7th, the morning of February 7th, so this would be after Alex had started his research, police shot at three people they misidentified as Dorner, which is an underhand pitch if I've ever seen one. | ||
| Alex could knock that out of the park so easily, yelling about the police state and how they've manufactured this shooting in order to have an excuse to shoot at civilians, to train people to know that they're sheep or something. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is target practice. | ||
| This is a test for the cops. | ||
| Devoilization. | ||
| Yeah, will you shoot on civilians? | ||
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Perfect. | |
| Easy, easy. | ||
| It fits so neatly. | ||
| It's a damn layup for Alex. | ||
| He spent all his energy over this month and a half trying to make shootings look suspicious, but it's not even an issue for days. | ||
| And when he does bring it up, this is the one that he thinks is real. | ||
| That's crazy, but I think it's pretty easy to see why. | ||
| For one, like you pointed out, Christopher Dorner is a black man. | ||
| Alex's business model is about making excuses for white terrorism, so I don't feel like he feels the need to get out of his way and get too invested when he doesn't have to. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But I don't think that's the whole story. | ||
| I mean, I kind of do, but I think there's more subtlety that's not captured within that broad explanation. | ||
| And I think even if he is black, he could fit that into his own. | ||
| You can still fit that in there. | ||
| See, Obama is even training black cops to do this, too. | ||
| Black cops, yada, yada, yada. | ||
| You can throw that in there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The people that Alex insists are not actually shooters in these situations whenever we have these mass events are always white, right-wing, gun weirdos, or fans of his show. | ||
| It's one of those groups is what he needs to defend. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| His belief in false flags is based around the idea that people of those groups don't commit crimes. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| So when one is accused of one, it's the globalists setting up a patsy or a cutout or whatever to make it look like they're part of one of those groups in order to demonize that group. | ||
| Has to be. | ||
| When the perpetrators of a crime aren't in one of those groups, he doesn't have anything to run with, regardless of how closely their actions match up with his beliefs about what the globalists are up to. | ||
| And that should be very fucking suspicious. | ||
| Dorner is not white. | ||
| He expresses enthusiasm about Hillary winning in 2016 in his manifesto, even back in 2013. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| He supports reasonable gun control measures and applauds Dianne Feinstein for her efforts at getting an assault weapons ban going. | ||
| And he is definitely not a fan of Infowars, as he explicitly goes out of his way to say he supports Piers Morgan's points, but thinks he'll always have a problem winning gun enthusiasts over because he's British. | ||
| Using Alex's twisted logic, if he were to say that this shooting and manhunt were staged, he would be tacitly saying that the globalists were doing it in an attempt to demonize themselves? | ||
| And if Alex takes that leap, the narrative completely Yeah, that's bananas. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's very interesting the way Alex's mind works vis-a-vis false flags. | ||
| But I think if you watch how he deals with this, you get a sense that it's super important that he needs it as a defense. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That is it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think it's clear in this next clip that that's kind of the vibe of what's going on. | ||
| People say, well, how do you know that? | ||
| It's staged by Obama to have a guy go out and start killing people who's an Obama supporter. | ||
| And loves Joe Biden and says, take the citizens' guns. | ||
| No, this is not the type of stuff the system wants, okay? | ||
| Just at a glance, people say, well, how do you know? | ||
| Well, there's hundreds of points at a glance that just come up. | ||
| And then I read both of his diatribes. | ||
| So, yeah, why would Obama have somebody do this shooting who's a supporter of his? | ||
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Right, right, right, right. | |
| That kind of thinking is fucking stupid. | ||
| Here's what I got for you. | ||
| I'm going to level it up. | ||
| Alright, I'm gonna level it up. | ||
| See, Obama infiltrated one of the Patriot groups with the FBI. | ||
| That guy then ordered... | ||
| I was really worried you were gonna do this. | ||
| Go ahead, please. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| It's still there to make the Patriots look bad, because it's gonna track back to it, and it was the Patriots who orchestrated this false flag. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then it's gonna get back to the Patriots, but it was actually Obama who infiltrated the Patriots to create this false flag! | ||
| Or it could be that Obama did this by using one of his own supporters as a patsy in order to make it so the next time when it is a right-wing person, it wasn't set up. | ||
| Because it's like, oh yeah, we fucking did that one too. | ||
| That is some great shit right there, Dan. | ||
| Whatever it is, it's all delusional nonsense. | ||
| It really is Alex taking... | ||
| It's weird that... | ||
| This is denialism. | ||
| Still, even though he's saying it's real, it's still... | ||
| It's deeply fucked up. | ||
| It's still very disrespectful to people who are affected by this tragedy. | ||
| I think this really happened, but also I disagree with all of reality, so I don't know where I stand. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I do think that there is a racial piece to it. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I definitely do. | ||
| I think that it's more about that preserving the false flag narrative than it is anything else. | ||
| But in this next clip we see something that I think might be a little bit racial. | ||
| And I've gone and really looked into this guy and just, I see all his photos where the eyes are just gleaming and he's smiling. | ||
| I've seen that look. | ||
| I've seen that look. | ||
| It's, I've arrived, I'm a superhero, I'm God, I'm a king, I'm a lord, I'm royalty, I'm a movie star, I'm Marie Antoinette. | ||
| So, I think, I've seen the pictures that he's talking about. | ||
| I don't think that there's anything other than a guy smiling. | ||
| You wouldn't think anything of it if you didn't know that he was a guy who went and shot a bunch of people. | ||
| You wouldn't think, oh my god, look at this creepy person. | ||
| Alex is projecting something that he feels. | ||
| And it's probably not good. | ||
| Do you know what, he used a lot of words that boil down to one word. | ||
| That word is uppity. | ||
| That is what he was doing right the fuck there. | ||
| And it's fucked up. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| But, lest you think he's someone whose opinion matters about anything, this next clip blew my mind. | ||
| Because he jumps off... | ||
| Look, whatever he's talking about here doesn't matter. | ||
| The context of this does not matter. | ||
| Because Alex accidentally says something that I really think he should spend maybe an entire show talking about because I really need to hear more about this. | ||
| Because, you see, normally you can't get diseases that most insects have because they're biomechanical system. | ||
| I see them as biomechanical. | ||
| I know technically they're not biomechanical, but they really are. | ||
| What? | ||
| And they're little exoskeletons. | ||
| I think that Alex thinks that bugs are machines. | ||
| What did he just say? | ||
| Because they have exoskeletons. | ||
| Bugs are machines. | ||
| No, I understand. | ||
| I don't understand how you could say... | ||
| Well, technically they're not, but actually they are. | ||
| No, that's not how... | ||
| Well, I think that they're biomechanical. | ||
| I know they're not mechanical, but actually they are. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I think he thinks bugs are machines. | ||
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Please. | |
| And that's why we can only get malaria? | ||
| Talk more about this, Alex. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I would love a whole episode about bugs being machines. | ||
| I need that in our cosmology. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is one I'm going to track very heavily. | ||
| Any other time... | ||
| From now on, any times bugs come up, entomology in any form... | ||
| We're going to have to keep... | ||
| This is the new Alex killed his dog. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| He thinks bugs are machines. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| So, of course, it's a day on Alex's show, so there's a new gun fear about some sort of bill that's going through. | ||
| So he gets into that here in this next clip, and I don't remember exactly what it sounds like, but according to the name of this clip, he does a dumb voice. | ||
| Here it is! | ||
| California announces semi-auto confiscation plan. | ||
| Up at Infowars.com. | ||
| And the breathless CBS News is so excited. | ||
| Oh, California, the most popular state, is leading the nation. | ||
| Why, they have a plan to only allow single-shot firearms in the state. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Single-shot firearms. | ||
| Firearms that only shoot one at a time. | ||
| And it gets better. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| All the people that have the guns that are going to be illegal, well, they've got to have a program to make them turn those in. | ||
| At last, California will be safe for the defrocked police officer to reportedly run around shooting other people. | ||
| That voice wasn't as dumb as I remember it being. | ||
| But first things first, that gun bill that Alex is talking about was vetoed in October 2013 by Jerry Brown, the Democrat governor of California, who said, quote, I don't believe that this bill's blanket ban on semi-automatic rifles would reduce criminal activity or enhance public safety enough to warrant this infringement on gun owners' rights. | ||
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But I thought the left was just out to get your guns and they hated the Second Amendment. | |
| Why would a Democrat governor veto the legislation that could have easily been made law with just a signature? | ||
| I'm going to go with because the Democrats are garbage. | ||
| I'm going to go with that. | ||
| Your feelings aside. | ||
| All that dumb... | ||
| I think that last clip is perfect as a representation of how Alex has set him up to be in a position to have his cake and eat it, too. | ||
| As it stands, he's decided that the Dorner shooting spree is real, so he's framing this gun bill in terms of disarming the citizens so they can't protect themselves from Dorner. | ||
| In essence, the government wants you to be the victims of his real crime. | ||
| Now, let's imagine a scenario where Alex said that, you know, let's imagine that the shooter was a white right-winger. | ||
| If that were the case, Alex gets to play the angle that the manhunt is fake and only exists to terrorize the public into agreeing to take away the guns. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It works no matter what the input is. | ||
| That's a good spot to be in. | ||
| Yeah, the output, the point behind it is exactly the same no matter what. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, it... | ||
| It also seems beneficial in 2013 that all of his positions, so long as Obama is in power, almost inculcate him from any kind of poor choice. | ||
| Like, anything he does almost seems to work out because it doesn't really matter which way it goes. | ||
| He's still able to play it. | ||
| And then once 2016 comes around, now he's... | ||
| Defending all kinds of shit. | ||
| And so, once you're on the defense, so many bad choices. | ||
| Probably in the first couple months of doing the show. | ||
| It's like, this game doesn't work whenever you're not in opposition. | ||
| It's really difficult to play the conspiracy theorist, truth-teller. | ||
| When your party is in control of just about everything, and there's no reason for your shit not to be real. | ||
| Everything that you're saying, there's nothing stopping Trump from declassifying whatever he wants. | ||
| There's nothing stopping him from telling us about the life extension technology that Alex imagines he knows about. | ||
| There's nothing. | ||
| And that's why you have to create... | ||
| The counter-counter-coup narratives of the deep state has to exist because even when you're in power, you're in opposition. | ||
| That's the way to preserve the business model when you get out of step with reality. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, this thing just... | ||
| The only thing that I just realized from this clip is just how easy it is. | ||
| You know, like, you know, you can almost take away his agency because there's no bad choice. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, like, I kind of still considered it as, yeah, as long as he was like, when he was coming up before Trump, he was making good choices and being successful. | ||
| Whereas in reality, it's kind of just like, you can't lose if there's a black president and you're a crazy white racist screaming, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it doesn't always boil down to that, but, I mean, if it were Clinton, like if Clinton was in office before Trump, let's say, like Hillary or Bill, whatever, the game would have played the same. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The culture got much uglier because of people's feelings about there being a black president. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But I think Alex would have been able to do exactly what he's doing. | ||
| And even with Bush. | ||
| Like, it's not even a Democrat. | ||
| Necessarily that needs to be there. | ||
| It just has to be someone he hates. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's all that really matters. | ||
| As long as the president is someone he hates, this works. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He can't love, Dan. | ||
| He can't love. | ||
| No matter how bad he is, it still works as long as he's full of hate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Humanity's garbage. | ||
| Well, again, it's what we talked about. | ||
| You know, on our last Modern Day episode, it's like, as long as his hatred and conspiracy and anger and focused outrage is directed at the power structure, there's not really all that much that's that difficult to deal with. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's America. | ||
| Everybody hates the government. | ||
| Yeah, there are less victims involved. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the problem when you get into the present day... | ||
| With creating this boogeyman of the deep state cabal and all this, it doesn't exist. | ||
| It doesn't exist in the way that Alex is describing it. | ||
| So lobbying all this at that nebulous entity, it doesn't work the same way as Bush. | ||
| Clinton targeting them for your outrage. | ||
| And that's why Alex has to fuck around and victimize little people. | ||
| And just be cruel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Anyway, maybe some of Alex's pain comes from the fact that one time his mom got flipped off from a helicopter. | ||
| Did you know that? | ||
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What? | |
| How close was the helicopter? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| This story may or may not be true, but here's Alex telling a story about a helicopter flying by his mom's house and giving her the finger. | ||
| TV News 5. It's just constant. | ||
| And, you know, when I tried to get Travis County to not buy another helicopter, it was like $11 million. | ||
| It flew to my parents' house because for some reason that was my address. | ||
| That I never said is my address. | ||
| Never lived at that house. | ||
| I was moved out before they moved there. | ||
| My dad is having a job. | ||
| And they came and hovered over the trees. | ||
| This was like 12 years ago. | ||
| Now my mom has an iPhone. | ||
| She would have got it on tape. | ||
| She comes out. | ||
| They have the door open on the helicopter they had. | ||
| They hadn't bought the new ones yet. | ||
| And flipped her off. | ||
| That is a great idea. | ||
| You're going to come flip me off with my taxpayer-paid-for helicopter, Travis County. | ||
| You need, you need to go to the right house. | ||
| Oh, this crazy former cop with his manifesto and all this, who allegedly, reportedly, looks pretty bad to me. | ||
| This fits the real MO. | ||
| Not the staged MO. | ||
| The big Obama supporter, big Piers Morgan supporter, he says, hey, take the citizens' guns. | ||
| Look at how he's gone haywire right there. | ||
| He says he's going to kill the families, reportedly, of the cops. | ||
| Kind of like you went over and harassed my mom. | ||
| Is that how your brains work? | ||
| We'll be right back with a ton of news, the asteroid, the gun grab, and more. | ||
| So I think that that's not good defense for him thinking that this is a real shooting. | ||
| I mean, of course it is a real shooting. | ||
| So his conclusion is correct, but his reasoning is so bizarre. | ||
| These people came over and flipped my mom off out of a helicopter. | ||
| So the shooter is real. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Fine, Alex. | ||
| This is one of those, like, fine. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And also, I don't want to get too deep into Dorner today, except for to experience the weirdness of Alex's saying something is real. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because the shooting goes on until the 12th. | ||
| And so, like, he's on the lam until the 12th. | ||
| Yeah, so this is probably going to come back up. | ||
| I do think so, and I'm interested to see how Alex responds to it. | ||
| We can get more in-depth into, like, the actual story as maybe he reads an article other than some, like, just bullet points about his manifesto. | ||
| He likes Piers Morgan. | ||
| Wow, this is a real shooting. | ||
| So it's the 8th now. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And it goes on for the 12th. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I am hoping for some serious whiplash on a day-to-day basis. | ||
| The 9th, it's fake shooting. | ||
| The 10th, it's a real shooting again. | ||
| The 11th, it's back off! | ||
| Anything could happen. | ||
| Like, honestly, I don't expect him to be consistent. | ||
| Yeah, no, of course not. | ||
| I don't know, we'll see. | ||
| So, this next clip, he gets off the shooting stuff, because I don't think he thinks it's that huge a deal. | ||
| Which is weird, because it was. | ||
| I remember this very clearly, this period of time, and the media was all over this because it was a very scary story. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The idea of somebody who had military training on the loose, who had an axe to grind with the police department and felt that they had been wronged by the police department, unjustly terminated, and were willing to take this route as a way of clearing their name. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, it's a very scary circumstance. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Because of, like, what we already talked about, too. | ||
| Like, the police figuring out how to respond to that. | ||
| Like, it's very scary. | ||
| And the media was all the fuck over it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Imagine if Rambo wasn't set in a different country. | ||
| It was set down your block. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he was coming after you. | ||
| Like, yeah. | ||
| It evokes that in your brain, though. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Because he is talking about it, but he doesn't seem to care that much. | ||
| He does care a little bit on this episode about that there was news of an asteroid that was going to come fairly close to Earth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But everybody was like, it's not going to hit the Earth. | ||
| And he's like, yeah, it's not going to hit the world. | ||
| We're not going to die. | ||
| But these people lie. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| All right, Alex? | ||
| I like that. | ||
| What was that? | ||
| Eros? | ||
| I don't remember the name of that one. | ||
| Interesting angle for him to take, which is, you're all good, but these people are liars. | ||
| You might not be okay. | ||
| It's going to pass within 27,000 miles of Earth, but also, it might be coming for your house. | ||
| Yeah, so there's that stuff going on, and I think all that's interesting, but there are two things that happen on this episode that are far more interesting to me, and here is the first one. | ||
| I think Alex slips up a little bit at the beginning of this clip, and then overcompensates by trying to do some bits towards the end. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I've been watching all this. | ||
| As Glenn Beck says, Carl Rove is a fake conservative. | ||
| Follow me in FreedomWorks and DickArmy. | ||
| And then you've got Rove firing back. | ||
| I'm the real conservative. | ||
| You're destroying America. | ||
| Carl Rove, I raised $400 million and got two people elected, and you didn't get anybody elected. | ||
| You can be both right. | ||
| And FreedomWorks is like, how dare you? | ||
| They don't know how to defend themselves. | ||
| FreedomWorks is not perfect, and I don't really trust Dick Army, but they actually have done some pretty good things. | ||
| Even though Glenn Beck's associated with it, I will tell you, it is a lot better than Carl Rove. | ||
| You know, on the scale of things, it's like they say in Ghostbusters, you know, imagine, you know, it's like, imagine paranormal activity, each one of these ghosts being one Twinkie. | ||
| Well, imagine a Twinkie, you know, 80 feet long and weighing about 30 tons or whatever they say. | ||
| He goes, that's a big Twinkie. | ||
| I mean, you know, I have to use the scatological stuff. | ||
| We're talking about Karl Rove. | ||
| He's really obsessed with that, and all he talks about is poop all day. | ||
| You didn't know that. | ||
| His nickname is Turd Blossom by George W. Bush. | ||
| Karl Rove is like a 80-foot long, 20-ton turd. | ||
| And then Glenn Beck is like, you know, he's like a porta potty that's been at the Super Bowl. | ||
| I mean, it's fully loaded, like a fully loaded, you know, baked potato. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| His estrogen loaded. | ||
| Anyways, I'm sorry. | ||
| So you got all... | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I shouldn't be mean like that. | ||
| I always just always watch Glenn Beck prancing around. | ||
| Trying to act manly and just the whole thing. | ||
| Because some guys who are really tough try to act gentlemanly and effeminate. | ||
| It's the opposite of like some British fencer that'll kill you in five seconds and slit your throat and turn into a demon and climb around on top tables. | ||
| Versus people that really are Nelly like that. | ||
| And it's not bad. | ||
| I mean, it's okay, Glenn. | ||
| Anyways, the point is, well, he has fantasies about me and Charlie Sheen. | ||
| Have you heard those? | ||
| I'm not joking. | ||
| He constantly on air fantasizes about gay sex and stuff with me and Charlie Sheen. | ||
| Hey, dude, Charlie likes women. | ||
| I'm going to give you a little newsflash. | ||
| Believe me, I've probably stayed at his house 15 times. | ||
| Talk about a conspiracy theory. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm going to stop right there. | ||
| I have now entered the twilight zone. | ||
| I think it's good therapy for me to go out and shoot the.50 cal. | ||
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So that's. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I strongly disagree. | ||
| If this is the result of you taking a day off to go shoot a bunch of guns, this is not good therapy. | ||
| This might be very ineffective therapy. | ||
| I think he started saying positive things about FreedomWorks. | ||
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Right. | |
| And then was just like, I gotta do something. | ||
| Started just grabbing at whatever he could come up with. | ||
| Oh, hey, you know, Karl Rove likes poop. | ||
| Glenn Beck's gay. | ||
| Turd blossom. | ||
| Estrogen. | ||
| Some men are effeminate but manly and he's effeminate and also effeminate? | ||
| I think that was pretty much just scrambling because he had said something positive about a group that he should be 100% opposed to. | ||
| I really am scared of his genuine laughs. | ||
| Those frighten me because he really thought that was funny and I don't understand. | ||
| He could barely keep going. | ||
| He's about to fall over in his chair. | ||
| Like a little giggle baby. | ||
| That's dangerous. | ||
| It's very... | ||
| Very unpleasant. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that it's telling that Alex isn't against FreedomWorks. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's telling that he knows about them because, I mean, the fact that he's aware and not against them means something. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It doesn't mean that he's taking money from them, but it's a mismatch of where he should be from his own narratives, you know? | ||
| Yeah, it's another piece of him being full of shit. | ||
| He should know that they're coke-related if he knows about Glenn Beck's involvement with them. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Oh, and also George W. Bush didn't call Karl Rove turd blossom because he liked to talk about shit. | ||
| It was a reference to a flower that grows out of shit, as if to imply that Karl Rove made the most out of even the worst situations. | ||
| Alex is very stupid. | ||
| But while we're on the subject, I was looking up various nicknames that Bush had for people, and I had forgotten how insane his nickname habit was. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's a lunatic. | ||
| Did you know that he used to call Maureen Dowd the Cobra? | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| The Cobra. | ||
| I don't know all the nicknames. | ||
| I know they were fucking stupid half the time. | ||
| Did you know that he used to call Silvio Berlesconi Shoes? | ||
| What's up, shoes? | ||
| I did not know. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| Why? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Is there a backstory? | ||
| I need to know more. | ||
| My favorite, though, is that he used to call Vladimir Putin ostrich legs. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| See? | ||
| He was too stupid to be evil. | ||
| It's all Cheney, man. | ||
| What's up, ostrich legs? | ||
| Bush was just a fucking idiot. | ||
| Or how much of that is PR. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He had fun nicknames for people. | ||
| You're buying hook, line, and sinker, man. | ||
| He just does seem like a fucking idiot, though, right? | ||
| A lot of that stuff seems to match up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex was kind of losing it there, doing some good poo humor. | ||
| I just think he lost his wind maybe halfway through. | ||
| You'll see a wrestling or a boxing match where someone's cardio doesn't hold up. | ||
| They're just like, ooh, you're on your last legs trying to finish the contest. | ||
| Run out the clock. | ||
| I think Alex, in this clip, he's so fucking loopy. | ||
| I just think that he needs to regroup. | ||
| My brain rounded up, but it's proper to it. | ||
| 21.6. | ||
| Didn't do too good in school. | ||
| Don't know much about history. | ||
| Don't know much about geography. | ||
| Don't know too much from the books I read. | ||
| That would be really good intro music. | ||
| I had that about 15 years ago. | ||
| I had... | ||
| I want Sam Cooke. | ||
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Don't know much about history, but I do know that I love you. | |
| Man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyways, getting back. | ||
| I'm just so happy about the asteroid. | ||
| It's asteroid time! | ||
| Asteroid party! | ||
| This is not an okay man! | ||
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All right. | |
| Man, Richard took me sprinting this morning. | ||
| He said, Alex, you're swimming two miles a day. | ||
| You're jogging three, four miles. | ||
| You're lifting weights and you're getting fatter. | ||
| And he goes, you put your body into stress mode. | ||
| You got to go sprint. | ||
| And he took me sprinting. | ||
| And I probably hadn't really sprinted full power since I did one stint of track when I was a freshman. | ||
| And it just felt so good to get my hippopotamus. | ||
| I'm not really that fat. | ||
| When I'm sitting over, I look fat. | ||
| I lost a lot of weight and quit doing all the longevity. | ||
| I've gone back to doing it. | ||
| This is not a morning zoo show. | ||
| You know, I think I am starting to go a little crazy. | ||
| I mean, a man can only take so much of this baloney. | ||
| That's... | ||
| What baloney? | ||
| Was sprinting the baloney? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think it's just... | ||
| Oh, another thing he's obliquely referencing is that Hillary Clinton had recently polled fairly well. | ||
| There's some favorability ratings being discussed about Hillary, and he's like, no one likes her! | ||
| I think that's most of the baloney that he's talking about. | ||
| Gotcha, gotcha. | ||
| But man, he is in a weird state. | ||
| He's in a real fucking weird place. | ||
| Just, like, getting all crazy, thinking about songs he wants to hear, and then getting into, like, I went running today. | ||
| I'm not that fat, but I'm kind of fat, because I stopped taking the longevity, but I've got to take it again. | ||
| I love running. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's the age-old sign when you say, anyways, the point is, and then get back onto your weird tangent. | ||
| Like, you're almost going to dismount the weird tangent, but then veer right back into it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he's excited about the asteroid time. | ||
| It's asteroid party time. | ||
| And so he begins sort of sarcastically covering the asteroid news. | ||
| It's a strange feeling. | ||
| And then something happens that we've seen before, but not very often. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play this clip on DA-14, the asteroid. | ||
| And this is from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. | ||
| And they're telling everyone that do not worry, remain calm. | ||
| Don't worry about all those spaceships you see taking off all the space shuttles out of underground bunkers. | ||
| Never mind, Godzilla just came out of the sea and is attacking Tokyo. | ||
| Let me see who's calling from an unknown number. | ||
|
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What? | |
| Hello? | ||
| Hey, how are you doing? | ||
| We still on for that? | ||
| What? | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| Okay, so we're not. | ||
| You want to do it next week or is that too late? | ||
| Are you setting up plans? | ||
| All right, well, I understand. | ||
| Let me do this. | ||
| Let me call you back in like three minutes, okay? | ||
| You're on air. | ||
| All right, thanks, bye. | ||
| Geraldo Rivera had me booked for his Saturday show. | ||
| The winter storm hit and everything, so I was going to have fun going on talking about the Super Bowl and the Illuminati. | ||
| Too bad. | ||
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Too bad. | |
| I was looking forward to that. | ||
| Alex is so desperate to get on any other show. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Allegedly, Geraldo's Booker. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I just mean here. | ||
| Like, is he even talking to the radio audience, or is he just talking to himself? | ||
| I mean, I know I used to, you know, listen to Loveline when I was younger. | ||
| One of the things Adam would always talk about is, like, the idea of, like, I don't think I'm talking to anybody. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And maybe there is something. | ||
| Like, after years and years of doing radio, you kind of just tune out to the idea that anyone's even listening. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Just, like, have a business meeting on air. | ||
| Hey, hey, Geraldo's great. | ||
| They're caught. | ||
| All right, hey, what's going on? | ||
| Ah, shit. | ||
| He just took a call. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| That's not pro. | ||
| That's not pro stuff. | ||
| Maddo does that a lot now, though, too. | ||
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True. | |
| After the Miller report didn't become the bombshell she was hoping for, she's just taking calls. | ||
| We all cope with disappointment in the same way. | ||
| So Alex is kind of disappointed. | ||
| But I think really what's going on is that he doesn't want to cover all this stuff. | ||
| He's decided that the Dorner shooting is real. | ||
| Good enough coverage. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I don't want to talk about Hillary's positive ratings. | ||
| I don't want to fucking talk about that. | ||
| This asteroid stuff, I don't want to talk about it. | ||
| I'm going to accidentally say it's real or something. | ||
| The asteroid is actually false flagged by the globalists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| In this next clip, this is where I got the sense that he doesn't really even want to be doing his show, and that's why he keeps just fucking riffing on stuff. | ||
| Now, what we're going to do is I'll just take phone calls for a couple segments because that little piece of news sent me off into a bad place mentally, a good place, where I don't want to focus on all this. | ||
| I don't want to do this. | ||
| I don't want to do this. | ||
| I was talking about that asteroid story, and I don't want to fucking do this anymore. | ||
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I don't want to do this. | |
| I don't want to do this. | ||
| That guy actually kills people. | ||
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I don't want to do that. | |
| No, it was the asteroid story. | ||
| Yeah, the asteroid, that's going to kill people. | ||
| I don't want to best with that. | ||
| I don't want to fucking do this anymore. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Let's take some calls. | ||
| What kind of weird shit do you guys got to say? | ||
| So Alex starts talking about cops being aloof. | ||
| This is, I mean, good enough. | ||
| Then he starts telling a story, and this is one of these instances where I don't believe this story. | ||
| My great-grandfather was an asteroid. | ||
| I also don't care about this story. | ||
| It was a good one. | ||
| But I do think that this is an indication, this is Alex trying to be funny. | ||
| I think this is definitely comedy. | ||
| Purposeful. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Unsuccessful. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Purposeful. | ||
| So many of the bureaucrats and cops and others that think they're God and get this royal attitude, this North Korean dictator type, just swaggering. | ||
| The same look you see in North Korean police, you're starting to see in big city cops' eyes. | ||
| In like New York, Chicago, LA, I've seen it. | ||
| And you see it, you're like, man, that's a bad person. | ||
| You know, the swagger, the satisfaction, the arrogance. | ||
| Oh, hi, officer. | ||
| Can you tell me where? | ||
| I've done this in New York since it happened to me first, you know, for real. | ||
| Many times when I'm there, I'll see some police standing around with their hats sideways, smoking cigarettes, cigars, bellies hanging out. | ||
| And they're on duty. | ||
| You're like, oh, hi, officer. | ||
| Can you tell me where Central Park is? | ||
| Do I look like a phone book or directory? | ||
| Don't you have a smartphone? | ||
| Where are you from? | ||
| And if you act scared, they'll go, all right, I'll tell you. | ||
| Oh, come over here, stupid little monkey boy, and I'll tell you where it's at. | ||
| But if you actually bow up to him, they'll be like, get away! | ||
| Where are you going? | ||
| And your buddy talks, did I tell you to talk? | ||
| This is actually on video in Marshall Law. | ||
| I'm talking to this guy! | ||
| What, you Mr. Tough Guy, huh? | ||
| Hey, you from Texas? | ||
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You think you're real tough being from down near Texas, eh? | |
| We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| It's not just because he laughs out to break. | ||
| I think he really thinks that impression is funny. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He thinks he's doing a great job. | ||
| He's crushing it. | ||
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He is really, hey, I'm not talking to this guy away. | |
| Yay! | ||
| Yeah, it has something of a, like, a made man, but it's a cop, but also it's a guy who's on the corner at your bar. | ||
| It's a very bad impression. | ||
| That's a bad impression. | ||
| The bit doesn't develop. | ||
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Uh-uh. | |
| It doesn't, there's no... | ||
| Where was it supposed to go? | ||
| I could have gone anywhere. | ||
| It really went nowhere. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| I think if you're doing this one, you go all the way back to the Irish cops. | ||
| You go back to the coppers and you do the whole... | ||
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Oh, interesting. | |
| Yeah, you do that whole angle. | ||
| You give them an Irish accent. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Threaten to box your ears. | ||
| Yeah, I think you go that direction. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| So Alex is, he's talking about that, you know, like the cops are aloof, they're bad cops, you see it in their eyes, and a lot of this is to reinforce his ideas that the Dorner shooting is real. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Which again, it is, so good, I guess. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Don't like what you're doing with it, but at least the conclusion, again, at least the conclusion is not denial, not fully denying reality. | ||
| So he gets into a metaphor about his dog chewing wires. | ||
| And this isn't an example of him killing a dog. | ||
| Because he's telling the dog not to chew on the wires. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he's kind of... | ||
| I see the look in your eyes. | ||
| It's very suspicious all the same. | ||
| Hey, don't chew on those wires. | ||
| Chompa, chompa, chompa. | ||
| So he's talking about that being like, hey, the dog wants to chew on the wires, but don't. | ||
| And then his brain jumps back to the shooting. | ||
| And what he says, I think, is incredibly fucked up. | ||
| And you don't want to chew those electoral cords. | ||
| Now I want to tell the police something. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| The dog didn't understand me. | ||
| He kept doing it until he finally figured out those little snakes or whatever he thinks they are. | ||
| Hurt. | ||
| You don't want to try to disarm the 160 million gun owners and start harassing us and messing with us and then get a war going. | ||
| Because if 1% fights back, that's 1.6 million combatants. | ||
| Who, all they gotta do is go out and bag one cop, disappear, and every cop in America's dead. | ||
| Which we don't want that to happen. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That's unintended consequences right there. | ||
| That's that book. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I mean, you know, a little bit different, but there is a shade of that in there. | ||
| What he's doing is more or less using the Dorner shootings as like, hey, this is what's going to happen to you if you try and take our guns. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is a deeply fucked up way to report on this story. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It only takes what... | ||
| Hey, look. | ||
| 99% of gun owners, they're not going to cause any problem. | ||
| But that 1%, they're going to kill every cop in America if you take our guns. | ||
| Just saying. | ||
| That's not a threat. | ||
| Hey, come over here. | ||
| Give me a couple more. | ||
| They'll stab you. | ||
| It's, you know... | ||
| I know that he does feel this way. | ||
| He had that caller who called in and talked about unintended consequences, that book. | ||
| He said it's a great book. | ||
| So we know that he is at least professing to have read it. | ||
| And he certainly has expressed connection with the Louis Beam leaderless resistance ideas. | ||
| He is an apologist for Timothy McVeigh. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's white ISIS. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So there's a lot of that stuff in there. | ||
| So you know that he feels this way. | ||
| Like, if they try and take our guns, we'll all rebel and kill a bunch of people. | ||
| You know that. | ||
| Right. | ||
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But... | |
| On the day that he decides to start covering a targeted murder spree of police officers and police adjacent people, it's weird for him to use that ongoing story as sort of an example of, hey, this could be worse for you if you try and take our guns. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| I think he meant it as a comfort to the cops. | ||
| Like, hey, at least you guys aren't taking our guns and we are all killing you. | ||
| It's just one guy targeting you. | ||
| I mean, I don't like your glasses half full approach to this. | ||
| I just think it's the wrong way. | ||
| That's deeply fucked up. | ||
| It's the wrong way to look at this story. | ||
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Yes, yes, I think I agree with you. | |
| So in this next clip, Alex does express that it could be fake. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| I mean, you have to entertain the possibility. | ||
| Yeah, to his credit, I guess, or the reverse. | ||
| He entertains the idea that it could be fake, but then is like, it's not fake. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then says something that, like, it really undercuts all of his narratives. | ||
| They're now saying in the London Telegraph and ABC News that there were racist police, and that's why he has to go out and shoot white officers. | ||
| And people are saying, well, could it be staged? | ||
| They're not going to stage something where somebody's out killing people and then saying he loves Obama and Biden. | ||
| If somebody faked these manifestos, they have super advanced knowledge that I don't really think very many people have of the mindset of the minion enforcer class. | ||
| Okay, this person deserves a Nobel Prize in literature if it's fake. | ||
| And it could be. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| I mean, you never know. | ||
| They may have killed this guy, and this is some psyop, but there's dozens of little points that say it's not. | ||
| And we're going to be talking about that. | ||
| And what does the government think if there's a civil war and the cops aren't out on motorcycles and they're hiding out with one guy? | ||
| I mean, you know, in the real world, the guy who wants to kill cops is going to kill cops. | ||
| You just have police ready, and when somebody gets killed, you vector in on that and get the guy. | ||
| And he's all, your tabletop exercises won't help you and all this stuff. | ||
| I mean, he's playing soldier. | ||
| He was trained to be a soldier and then to be a cop, and then that didn't work out, so now he's targeting you. | ||
| That's why you don't want police who play soldier against the citizens. | ||
| Soldiers go and burn down cities and kill the enemy. | ||
| So, Alex, for ever... | ||
| Has been yelling about how the DHS and people are warning that returning veterans can possibly go. | ||
| Bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that represents a very severe domestic threat. | ||
| The idea of people who have military training becoming insurgent in the homeland is a very real threat. | ||
| Alex takes that to be an attack on white people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And now we have this situation where that exact thing is happening and he's saying, well, I mean, soldiers are trained to kill. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's essentially making the same argument that these people that he screams Right. | ||
| It's very bizarre. | ||
| It's not that bizarre, but it's bizarre how predictable this is. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, it fits perfectly in the pattern. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the additional, like, it's not why this guy or anybody kills people that he loves Obama. | ||
| However, that can be used as supporting evidence for that he would be killing people or anyone would. | ||
| Well, that's why he fits the program. | ||
| Profile of it being real. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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He talks about it in these vague terms of this really sophisticated writing of this manifesto that mirrors. | |
| But all he ever says specifically is he wants gun control measures passed. | ||
| He supports Obama. | ||
| He likes Piers Morgan. | ||
| That's about it. | ||
| And if that's all that your qualifications are for a deep psychological profile of a real shooter, this is woefully stupid. | ||
| This is simplistic and fucking awful. | ||
| But at this point, Alex jumps back to the asteroid party because he realizes he hasn't covered this news in the way that something that could be world-ending deserves to be covered. | ||
| And thankfully, last time he was sort of being sarcastic about Godzilla and all that shit. | ||
| Thankfully, this time, he decides to approach the issue with class, aplomb, and very sincere, serious coverage. | ||
| Well, that's nice. | ||
| Now, let's go ahead and go to the video here. | ||
| And it turns out that... | ||
| It turns out, ladies and gentlemen, that... | ||
| Space Command has dispatched a spacecraft, and the asteroid is on a collision course with Earth, and they're hoping to take it out with some boosters. | ||
| They're going to fire at it and have mount on the side to direct it away, but they've got to get the booster rockets up to the speed to be able to come up against it at 17,400 miles an hour to land, to then thrust it out away from the Earth. | ||
| And we've got live feed of that. | ||
| We're going to it right now. | ||
| Now, here it is. | ||
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Cheers. | |
| Oh, oh, oh, oh. | ||
| Bye. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| April is coming up. | ||
| Joke landed. | ||
| April 1st, joke early. | ||
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April 1st joke? | |
| The asteroid's 17,000 miles away is where it's going to pass. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| April 1st joke, not April Fool's joke. | ||
| Happy April 1st joke day. | ||
| April 1st joke. | ||
| Not a good joke. | ||
| Went too long. | ||
| Went a little long. | ||
| What is this cornball-ass show? | ||
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What is he doing? | |
| What is happening? | ||
| He's taking calls on air. | ||
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He's playing fucking Space Invaders. | |
| Does he have a soundboard where he's going to play fart noises next? | ||
| He's dangerously close to that. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| This is nuts. | ||
| Yeah, this is a weird... | ||
| Even for any period of time, this is bizarre. | ||
| I mean, I'm actually happy that he went to Space Invaders or Asteroids or whatever it was for his reference, because I felt like the Armageddon reference was right there. | ||
| It was too easy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It was too easy. | ||
| Just play some Bruce Willis, do the whole thing. | ||
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Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. | |
| Also, fuck you, man. | ||
| You can't joke like this. | ||
| You did that shit on Y2K. | ||
| You can't do this. | ||
| It's almost like... | ||
| What is he doing? | ||
| Is he trolling his audience? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Because he did say that Russia was shooting nukes. | ||
| Stuff like that on Y2K. | ||
| This isn't a parody, necessarily. | ||
| This is accurate. | ||
| He might have reported 15 years prior. | ||
| I would say he's trolling us. | ||
| But we're back in 20... | ||
| He is a psychic, though. | ||
| That's something you always forget. | ||
| He could have seen us coming years in advance. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So on this episode here on February 8th, Alex goes into Overdrive. | ||
| He finishes up his normal three-hour show and then gets into the Dorner shooting a little bit more in Overdrive. | ||
| And he kind of is a little bit more explicit about why he thinks this one's real in Overdrive. | ||
| This guy going crazy out in California does not help the gun grabber program because he's been former military who was also a cop. | ||
| That's why they're trying to focus on his military service because they want to demonize the military because that's a group they don't control. | ||
| Not the police. | ||
| I'm going to get more into this after your calls. | ||
| That's why I'm going into overdrive is to take your calls and cover this. | ||
| Could have done during your fucking show, but... | ||
| No shit. | ||
| And he doesn't really get that much more into detail than that. | ||
| It's just, it's a very weird standard of proof to be like, this doesn't help the gun grabber agenda, therefore it's real. | ||
| Yeah, and also why? | ||
| Why doesn't it help the gun grabber agenda? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think it still does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The guns are the problem that we have and how they are killing people. | ||
| I don't care who is behind the gun killing people. | ||
| The problem is that... | ||
| And that heavily implies that Alex isn't super interested in the gun-grabbing agenda either. | ||
| It's really what's the defense of... | ||
| Who's behind the gun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's why they came up with the guns don't kill people, people kill people, is because they're like, well, it's our people don't kill people, you know? | ||
| It's a weird thing, man. | ||
| Because if he's saying that this is real because it doesn't fit the gun grabber agenda, which he has decided what that is, he's created the parameters of what that is, the definitions, everything. | ||
| And he can change it at will, whenever. | ||
| But it also implies that all it takes for something to be fake to him is it fits in with the definitions that he's created of the gun grabber agenda. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a low standard of proof. | ||
| One would say an almost non-existent standard of proof. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| In fact, not proof at all. | ||
| It really is so close to, I'm just making this up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's shockingly close. | ||
| He could just say it. | ||
| I'm winging it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm paranoid and freaked out about someone taking my gun that I enjoyed shooting yesterday, and hey man, I'm going to create a worldview about it. | ||
| That works for me. | ||
| But please believe that I've read things. | ||
| Oh yeah, for sure. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex suggests another reason why he thinks that this is a real thing, and that is it has to do with the media. | ||
| Can you imagine if Christopher Dorner was a Tea Party member? | ||
| I mean, it would be the end of the world if this guy was a Tea Partier. | ||
| See, it fits the script. | ||
| If it was a Tea Partier black guy, ooh, that'd be even better for him. | ||
| So they can demonize, you know, true groups at once. | ||
| Well, wait, military, and then the fact that he was black, they would demonize. | ||
| But, again, it doesn't fit the script to have the cop. | ||
| Because that's, it's not they care about cops. | ||
| They want that to be off record, can't question that, because that's the domestic force they're going to try to use to go after the public. | ||
| But again, the biggest angle to all of this, Eric, is this. | ||
| I'll cover it when I get back briefly, then go to Kathy. | ||
| The absolute key, straight ahead. | ||
| Let me tell you, a day of bass fishing and firing.50 cal and.308, I just absolutely feel like I had a five-month vacation. | ||
| He doesn't get to the key. | ||
| I was looking for that key. | ||
| It seems like it would be right back. | ||
| I thought the key might have been go fish. | ||
| Metaphorically and literally. | ||
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Go fish. | |
| Go fish. | ||
| Pull a card. | ||
| Play the game. | ||
| So he starts talking to some lady who calls in who is a church lady that Alex has met. | ||
| Well, isn't that special? | ||
| He's known her for 17 years, according to... | ||
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What? | |
| It's weird. | ||
| She talks about running into somebody, I think at the supermarket, who talks about a soldier that committed suicide, and it's an upsetting phone call. | ||
| It's not worth listening to. | ||
| It's second, third-hand information. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And just hearing the two of them gab. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Good to talk to you. | |
| I'm going to give you my phone number. | ||
| Just having a nice little... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's how he fills a lot of the time in Overdrive, as opposed to getting to the key. | ||
| And here is the end of the show. | ||
| This is the end. | ||
| He does half hour of Overdrive, and this is the end of it. | ||
| And I just think that this is damning to all of his claims that anything is fake, ever. | ||
| I think it's good the police have shot up two people's vehicles who were innocent. | ||
| They didn't even look like the suspect's vehicle. | ||
| I think all Californians should arrange themselves at the end of the block for the police to drive by and shoot them and their families for their safety. | ||
| I mean, that's reasonable, isn't it? | ||
| No, no, seriously, I hope they catch this guy. | ||
| It's really terrible what's happening. | ||
| But he is a big Obama and Piers Morgan supporter. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| That's how you're going to end. | ||
| That's literally out to the end of the show. | ||
| That's fucking pathetic. | ||
| Obviously that stuff is facetious at the beginning. | ||
| He's not saying that people should get shot or anything like that. | ||
| But the way he ends there is, I hope this guy gets caught. | ||
| He has a big Obama and Piers Morgan supporter. | ||
| End. | ||
| But that is exactly what he says the media does to him. | ||
| Hey, hey, hey, hey, hold on. | ||
| That's when they do it to me. | ||
| But that's exactly what he cries bloody murder about all the time. | ||
| He's like, they say we're right-wingers, they're saying all of us are guilty by association. | ||
| But yet here he cannot stop bringing up that this guy is an Obama supporter and that means it's a real shooting as opposed to the fake ones that are done by people who like what I do. | ||
| This is not good. | ||
| This is a shocking glimpse. | ||
| You know the old saying, turnabout is fair play, but what if you changed it and said, I'm going to unfairly only turnabout you and fuck off? | ||
| Preemptive turnabout is false bad play. | ||
| False play. | ||
| I don't really try to work that. | ||
| Where's Benjamin Franklin at when you need a poor Richard's almanac kind of situation? | ||
| I don't like this. | ||
| I mean, I do in one sense. | ||
| I really don't like the way he covers things that matter to people and really deeply traumatic events. | ||
| Even when he's dealing with it as a real thing, it's still fucked up. | ||
| But I do think it's very interesting and worthwhile because I don't... | ||
| I don't know the last time we've seen a major event that's happened, and Alex has covered it as real. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It seems like the exception, not the rule. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And what it takes for it to be seen as real, all it is is, I don't think it fits the gun grabber agenda. | ||
| Oh, he's an Obama supporter. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's all it takes. | ||
| That's all it takes for it to be real for him. | ||
| Which means the times that he thinks things are fake means nothing. | ||
| He's not basing any of this shit on anything. | ||
| So yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I'm very interested to see how this develops over the time until the manhunt ends. | ||
| Because it will... | ||
| I think the longer that it goes on, the worse his argument gets. | ||
| Because there is a sense of it that like... | ||
| The media would be going crazy about this if it was a tea party guy. | ||
| But the media was going crazy with it. | ||
| They were all over it. | ||
| Because it's a crazy fucking story. | ||
| So I don't know how this is going to hold up. | ||
| But I think it stinks. | ||
| Because it stinks. | ||
| And then secondarily, I think it stinks because it's five days after this shit started. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What is he doing? | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| This is wild. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we'll find out what happens in a later episode. | ||
| But for now, we've got a website. | ||
| It is knowledgefight.com. | ||
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Correct. | |
| We're on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight and I'm at gotobedjordan. | ||
| We're also on Facebook. | ||
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We are on Facebook. | |
| We are also on the iTunes. | ||
| We are on the other podcastual applications. | ||
| Where else would you find a podcast? | ||
| Forests? | ||
| Bugsareal.com. | ||
| Bugsareal.com. | ||
| I'll tell you what. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Who do you got? | ||
| We don't have a lot of winners on this one. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| Linus Pauling probably did kill some people with his vitamin C nonsense. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That one seemed clean, but I don't think it is. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Weird that you can both win a Nobel Peace Prize saving lives and at the same time be responsible for the deaths of lots of people. | ||
| Possibly. | ||
| Possibly. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Glenn Beck. | ||
| Alex made fun of him. | ||
| He's probably not killed anybody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But one guy who technically probably has is Alex Jones. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |