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#231: March 24, 2009

Today, Dan and Jordan get back to their normal show by chatting about the March 24, 2009 episode of The Alex Jones Show. The gents find Alex completely freaking out (and fake crying) about his made up Mandatory Service Bill, and breaking some bad news about a past guest with a really funny name.

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alex jones
10:53
d
dan friesen
44:35
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jordan holmes
14:56
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paul joseph watson
00:05
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed we are.
Dan.
unidentified
Hi.
dan friesen
Dan.
unidentified
Welcome back.
jordan holmes
What's your favorite holiday celebrating a genocide?
dan friesen
Columbus Day.
No.
unidentified
Is that what we're supposed to say?
dan friesen
Thanksgiving?
unidentified
I don't know, dude.
dan friesen
Whatever.
unidentified
We're past it, man.
jordan holmes
We're over it.
dan friesen
Welcome back.
This is a show where...
Drink novelty beverages and talk about Alex Jones.
Did I say that already?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We're out of the rhythm.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think it's been a week since we've...
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Unfortunately, we recorded all of that in one fucking day.
dan friesen
Thank you for everybody who enjoyed the Obama deception coverage.
That was, yeah, a week ago we recorded as we're recording today.
And, yeah, I feel rusty.
But I know we'll make it through because I know a lot about Alex Jones.
And?
jordan holmes
And I only know what you tell me about those shows.
Dan?
dan friesen
Do you have a good holiday?
jordan holmes
I had a holiday with my family.
dan friesen
Cool.
So it's a good time.
We can check that in the good time column.
jordan holmes
There was a moment, or there was a succession of moments where I wanted to punch my family all in the face.
dan friesen
When you say succession of moments, that's the whole time.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm picturing.
Yeah, pretty much.
This particular sequence was infuriating.
My girlfriend talked about dental work and how her insurance didn't cover it.
And so my brother goes, yeah, you know, they're just in it for the money.
Oh, you're saying that for-profit medicine maybe doesn't lead to better patient outcomes.
And then my mom said that while she was pregnant with my little sister, she was kicked off of her insurance.
Guess why?
Because she had a pre-existing condition.
Oh, so that's a bad idea.
And my dad just had some health issues, and he said how great it was that Medicare covered it.
Oh, so socialized medicine is great!
dan friesen
See, this is a situation where I'm sure our listeners are imagining this situation playing on.
They're like, well, I imagine Jordan bit his tongue.
Probably kept a stiff upper lip about this.
jordan holmes
Indeed I did.
Oh, and the best part is pretty much right after that, they made fun of Alexandria Cortez.
dan friesen
Oh, good times.
jordan holmes
Yeah, immediately they were like, ha ha, I remember that tweet where she said there were three chambers and immediately after that said...
Typo.
dan friesen
I don't even think that was a tweet.
I think that was in a live stream or something like that that she was doing while she was making ramen and talking politics.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like fucking what are you idiots doing?
dan friesen
Yeah, good times.
Well, that's fun.
I'm glad.
I hope everyone out there had a great Thanksgiving or if you're in a foreign country that doesn't celebrate this weird holiday, whatever you guys did, I hope you had a good time.
jordan holmes
I hope it was great.
dan friesen
We're back.
And Jordan, I gotta say this.
I'm so excited to not be doing the Obama discussion.
Tell me about it!
jordan holmes
I listened back to the last episode, and man, I lost my voice, and I was dead.
I was dead.
dan friesen
There was a portion of it where I almost got mad at you while I was editing it, because there was maybe a good half-hour chunk of the episode.
jordan holmes
Where I didn't say anything.
dan friesen
No, where you wouldn't let me say anything.
You interrupted literally everything.
And I didn't notice it when we were recording it because I just wanted it to end.
I wanted us to barrel to the end.
I was like, we've got to get through this.
But listening back, it was like, oh my god, Jordan is being a dick.
But then I let that go.
jordan holmes
I apologize.
I had lost it.
I was gone.
dan friesen
We were very out of sorts.
Actually, what we were covering was so unpleasant, so awful.
You know, it just lends itself to that.
But I went back, and today we're going to be going over a 2009 episode.
We're going to be going over March 24th, 2009.
Jumping back in.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And just the act of listening to it filled me with joy.
There were multiple times while I was getting clips for this episode and listening to the episode.
Where I blurt laughed and had to go back and listen to what I had just listened to over again.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
It's like there was something refreshing about being back in extemporaneous Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's something so like, yes, all right, there's my guy.
Even if I don't like him, at least it's not produced.
Like, the voiceover Alex is the worst Alex.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's awful.
dan friesen
It's so bad.
And so today we will be going in to March 24th, 2009.
Very excited about that.
But before we do, I'd like to give a shout-out to a couple new people who joined up with the show and are supporting what we do.
Very exciting.
I'd like to say, first of all, thank you so much to Will.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you, Will.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Will.
dan friesen
Secondly, I don't know that this isn't...
Someone you do stuff with at Zany's every now and again.
So don't get that in your head.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But I'd also like to say thank you to someone else who has joined up with the team.
Lair, I'd like to say thank you.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Lair.
unidentified
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
If it's you, Uncle Lair, I swear to God.
dan friesen
I don't think it's Mr. Reeve.
But we do appreciate so much you guys joining up and supporting the show.
If you'd like to and you haven't.
You're more than welcome to.
You can go to our website, knowledgefight.com.
Click that button that says support the show.
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Please do.
And thank you to everybody who's joining up and listening to the show.
alex jones
That's cool.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we start off with a clip that you probably won't like to hear.
This is from the beginning.
jordan holmes
Is it the Obama deception?
Because I swear to God, if you started playing clips from the Obama deception, I would murder you.
dan friesen
It's close, and it's really...
It's really fun that we've now done the entire Obama deception because we're jumping back into the period of time when it came out.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so Alex says stuff like this.
alex jones
All that's coming up and more, but on any of the subjects I mentioned or any items you want to go over, I'd like to hear your review of the Obama deception.
I haven't had a call since we released it.
I've been busy with guests.
jordan holmes
That's my review, actually.
alex jones
I want to hear your review of the Obama deception, what effect it's having on those that you show it to.
dan friesen
Alex, we've covered that.
My review of the Obama deception is boo.
The effects that it's had on the people that I've showed it to have been Jordan almost losing his mind and screaming for 12 hours straight.
So that's my review.
Anyway, we can move along from there.
At this point in time, Alex is kind of not really understanding the nascent Tea Party.
We've seen that in the past episodes.
Alex is kind of unaware of what's going on except for he's sort of into it because it's a tax protest thing.
jordan holmes
Right.
He's more into the Oath Keepers because it's a violence thing.
dan friesen
Right.
And so he's starting to see coverage of it.
And even though he doesn't fully associate himself with the Tea Party, he's still defensive about it.
And I think that's really interesting because I think that's going to help him make the transition much easier.
alex jones
I was watching HBO.
This morning for an hour on the treadmill.
dan friesen
Sure.
alex jones
And I saw a large part of this documentary.
It said it was produced by Nancy Pelosi's daughter because I recognize her name.
She's made puff pieces for George Bush as well.
She specializes in pure propaganda.
unidentified
Buh!
jordan holmes
You would know, asshole.
alex jones
And they only showed people in Louisiana and Mississippi calling Obama the N-word during the campaign, saying he was a Muslim, a communist, that he was really Osama bin Laden, that he was going to pull a rubber mask off.
Now, I can go find Democrat clowns just as crazy, just as insane, kind of nut jobs that get attracted to political rallies.
They're always there.
And we put some of those actually in Terrorstorm, saying that WMDs were really found in Iraq.
One guy goes, nanny, nanny, boo-boo, stick your head in doo-doo.
I mean, literally, these are mentally ill people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's just as bad as saying the N-word.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's a pretty good equivalency.
Someone said nanny, nanny, boo-boo to me.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
Somebody said that's the biggest N-word I've ever known.
It's twice as long!
dan friesen
If his complaint is that there's crazy people on the left and the right, point well taken.
But if those are the equivalences you're trying to make, I say, sir?
You are minimizing something, and it's the N-word.
jordan holmes
Maybe a little bit.
dan friesen
Being thrown around at a black president.
jordan holmes
Yeah, maybe a little bit.
Also, they only show those during the campaign, man.
We can pull up about a million of those from yesterday.
dan friesen
And he's selling out the South, too, man.
He's just like, it's just Louisiana and Mississippi.
You'd expect that there.
I got a lot of listeners down there.
I know what they're like.
jordan holmes
All right.
Fair.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't think that's...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
No, come on.
Throw Missouri in there, of course.
dan friesen
Missouri is some...
Okay.
So, interestingly, too, Alex, at the beginning of this episode, gets into some of his feelings about other conservative media personalities.
And as we know from listening to this time period, he doesn't like Michael Savage.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
dan friesen
He calls him Michael Wiener, a bunch.
jordan holmes
Which is hilarious.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And it turns out he has some other...
Feelings about other more famous conservative broadcasters.
jordan holmes
One Glenothy Beck?
dan friesen
Nope.
We already know what he feels about him.
Someone else.
alex jones
Through Obama, he's now in.
And then meanwhile, Limbaugh stumbling around.
jordan holmes
Yeah, fuck that guy.
alex jones
Like a drug gorilla.
Only way to describe him looking completely psychopathic.
Didn't used to look like that a decade ago.
And the guy's just fried.
I predict he's going to have a collapse soon or something.
I mean, he admits he took 100 Oxycontins a day, folks.
That would kill seven horses of average weight.
That's how big his liver is.
That's how much hillbilly heroin this boy takes.
jordan holmes
It's just regular heroin.
dan friesen
That's the kind of thing that you don't get in the Obama deception that I love.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's so good.
dan friesen
Rush Limbaugh was taking enough Oxycontin to kill seven regular-sized horses.
jordan holmes
You know, if the Obama deception had that in it, man, that's a good documentary right there.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's something I could get on board with.
I wish Alex would just wing his documentaries.
Why not?
They'd be as true.
jordan holmes
Right?
Who gives a shit?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, we have to make this look professional?
What?
You did it?
That's what you call professional?
unidentified
Nah.
dan friesen
Yeah, why the fuck not?
Like, just, it would be quicker, it would be as slick, it would have as many factual inaccuracies, just fucking wing it.
So, Alex, at the beginning of the episode, you may remember.
jordan holmes
I do recall.
dan friesen
You heard him say, I want to hear your reviews of the Obama deception.
To which I said, You have a slightly different take on it than his callers.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's surprising.
That's surprising.
dan friesen
Here's the first one that calls in.
alex jones
Don in Michigan and Jesse in others.
Go ahead, Don.
unidentified
Hi, Alex Jones.
It's a pleasure talking to you, my friend.
dan friesen
Hell yeah.
alex jones
Pleasure to talk to you.
unidentified
I just first want to say the Obama Deception was a great film.
It wasn't as hard-hitting, but it definitely got the point across.
Ooh, little shade!
dan friesen
A little bit.
unidentified
Little shade there!
dan friesen
Not as hard-hitting.
jordan holmes
Little shade!
dan friesen
Unclear what it's not as hard-hitting as.
jordan holmes
Or towards.
dan friesen
So there's that.
That's still positive.
Gets the message across.
Still pretty glowing reviews.
So that's great.
A little bit later, Alex takes another call.
Gets another Obama Deception review.
alex jones
Jesse?
In Las Vegas, you're on the air, Jesse.
unidentified
How are you, Alex?
alex jones
Good.
unidentified
Good, good.
You know, I wanted to first start with the Obama deception.
Definitely enjoyed it.
Because I listen to you so much, I can't say that I learned too much.
But the exciting part is that I get to meet people and bring up the Obama deception.
And these are the Mitt Romney types that were out here in Las Vegas and Nevada, which, you know, that was a huge movement out here.
And they already know about the film.
dan friesen
His review is, I already knew all this shit because I listened to your show, but the exciting thing is now I have something to talk to people about.
That's not a great review either.
jordan holmes
Also, the people I talk to about it already know about it, so my excitement is greatly dimmed.
dan friesen
No, no, that makes it even more exciting, because it's like, hey, I would talk to them about X, Y, or Z things they don't know about, but now I get to come in, they know about it.
jordan holmes
We have a nice little conversation.
Our review is not as hard-hitting.
dan friesen
I can make weirdo friends now.
jordan holmes
He seems way too even-keeled.
I think he's a plant.
I'm going to go with he's a plant.
dan friesen
There's an interesting thing that I started to...
Oh, yeah.
there are people who are way too prepared.
And this guy is one of them.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that that subsection of Alex Jones'listeners, they know that they can use Alex's show to amplify whatever they want.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And so this guy is calling in, and he wants to talk about Las Vegas politics.
unidentified
Oh!
dan friesen
And stuff like that.
So he's really prepared, and he's using Alex's show as a bully pulpit.
jordan holmes
And he's starting with the buttering up in order to make sure that he can get to the second part.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
This guy listens to Alex Jones a lot.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that there's a lot of people who use that strategy.
So, in this next clip, we hear Alex sort of, he's trying to explain why he made the Obama deception, which is something I'm curious about, certainly.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, in doing so, I think he reveals the answer to one of the big mysteries that we couldn't get to the bottom of.
jordan holmes
What it's about?
dan friesen
Well, no, unfortunately not.
But one specific thing I couldn't solve in my research.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
We are back live.
Thank you for joining us.
unidentified
I hurt myself today.
alex jones
All right, let me try to explain.
jordan holmes
That's the official anthem of the Obama deception.
alex jones
Because I knew that all of the attacks from here on out, and the way the mainstream media is going to frame things, is that it's basically toothless, mindless, backwards, kind of mainline Republicans who believe that he secretly, Osama bin Laden with a rubber mask on, you know, that he was born in Kenya and all of this.
Whether the born in Kenya thing is true or not, the media early on chose to make that the big issue.
dan friesen
So that's his attempt at explaining his motivation in making the Obama deception, which is he's trying to put a preemptive face on sort of being against Obama that's not a toothless hillbilly yelling the N-word in Mississippi or Louisiana, as he's already complained about on the show.
So he's presenting himself as the, like, above-it-all, Non-partisan.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
Just, I don't like this guy.
He sucks.
unidentified
It's crazy.
dan friesen
So that, I would say, mission failed.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Also, your buddy Jerome Corsi is one of the ones who's going around in the media talking about Obama being born in Kenya.
jordan holmes
Pretty much the entire time.
dan friesen
Yeah, and you're thrilled with that.
So don't blame the media for that.
jordan holmes
Hey, hey.
dan friesen
Anyway, so that, I think, is a failure of an explanation for why he made the film.
jordan holmes
Wait, that's why he made the film?
dan friesen
Well, he starts getting distracted with talking about other things, so he doesn't really explain any further than that.
I think he just was like, I think I can make some money off this.
That's probably, if he was being honest with himself.
jordan holmes
I mean, before we had watched the film, I would have guessed that there are a bunch of different reasons for making the Obama deception.
You know, he wants to tell the truth, I imagine, about Obama.
dan friesen
Passion for the art of documentary.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Artists have to create, Dan.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Otherwise you stagnate and you die.
dan friesen
Fish gotta swim.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Lions gotta eat.
And documentarians gotta document things.
jordan holmes
After the Obama deception, I have no idea why or how he made it.
dan friesen
I think it was just maybe he had a ton of blank DVR discs.
jordan holmes
That could be.
dan friesen
Like blank DVDs in the warehouse.
And he's like, gotta put something on them.
Gotta move these things.
jordan holmes
Gotta put something on them.
dan friesen
Any kind of crass interest like that, I'd believe it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'd buy that.
dan friesen
So I paused this clip here before we got to the part where I think this solves a little mystery.
alex jones
Meanwhile, if you look at the polls, 98% of Americans, Congress reported 1,001 phone calls, that's more than 98%, against the banker takeover.
Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, black, white, Chinese, Mexican, it doesn't matter.
People know it's a scam.
dan friesen
So, I could not find for the life of me anything that indicated a 98% disapproval rating for the bailout bill.
That was something that I was completely flummoxed by because it made no sense.
But there, Alex's brain immediately goes to Congress got thousand to one phone calls against it.
I think that's what he's going on, presuming that that's a poll of some sort.
jordan holmes
Oh, he thinks that's a poll.
dan friesen
I think that might be what he's saying.
jordan holmes
I mean, in a certain sense, it's a poll of who calls...
Of the people who would call your congressman, a thousand to one of them are against it.
dan friesen
But that's also, there's so many statistical elements in there that you can't make any broad conclusions about people based on that.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It's people who call their congressmen, and as we know, it's black, white, Chinese, Mexicans.
dan friesen
You don't know that?
jordan holmes
Those are the voices.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't fucking know that.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine how.
dan friesen
I don't think if you call and you're like, hey, I'm against this bill, they're like, are you Chinese?
jordan holmes
By the way, I want to make sure everybody knows I am Chinese.
Put that in a tick.
This is a poll.
dan friesen
There's no demographic information on that.
It's ridiculous.
So I think that's probably what he's going on.
And if in the documentary he'd said that there were 1,000 to 1 phone calls against it, that wouldn't have been nearly as confusing.
Because then I'd be like, I imagine maybe...
Rand Paul got that many phone calls.
You can imagine somebody has that level of ratio.
That makes me feel a little bit better because I'm like, oh, that's what you're talking about.
Anyway.
In this next clip, one of the things that I think people took away the most and got the most enjoyment out of in the Obama deception was the moment where Alex says that in four years they will destroy Obama in order to bring in another puppet.
jordan holmes
Ah, yes, yes, yes.
dan friesen
I think a lot of people really enjoyed that moment of clarity of Alex predicting his own future.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And in this next clip, he does the same thing, but does it even more clearly.
It's insane how much he is just like, this is what I'm going to do.
alex jones
And the film explains that they'll get rid of Obama in four to eight years and bring in a new puppet.
And suddenly all these Republicans that were anti-establishment and anti-corruption, they'll suddenly love it because they will associate their personal power and their identity with the new Republican leader.
Just like Democrats who were anti-war and anti-lobbyist and anti-banker, they're suddenly all for it because they see it as their man's doing it.
They won.
dan friesen
So he just complains about online comments for a bit after that.
jordan holmes
Oh, Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan, the key phrase there...
jordan holmes
Dan, I can't do it!
dan friesen
The key phrase is that they associate this person with their personal power.
jordan holmes
I know!
dan friesen
Alex always talks about how, like, I'm the power behind the Trump movement.
We made this happen.
jordan holmes
I can't understand.
dan friesen
It's crazy.
jordan holmes
This is bananas.
dan friesen
He is...
It's the only thing he's ever predicted correctly.
jordan holmes
And...
dan friesen
Perfectly.
Yeah, but he's not really predicting that.
He's not predicting that I will be the one I'm predicting this about.
He's predicting it about people he thinks are dum-dums.
All these dumb shithead GOP people.
No, it's you, Alex.
jordan holmes
It's you!
You stupid asshole.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
Somebody play that clip for him.
unidentified
Somebody...
dan friesen
Jacob Marley?
jordan holmes
No, get a giant boombox and say anything right outside his house.
dan friesen
Now is the perfect fucking time to do a Christmas carol with Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, that is a perfect time.
dan friesen
We should do a radio theater version.
That clip would be the ghost of Alex Past.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
unidentified
Right there.
dan friesen
Oh, God, it would be so good.
The ghost of Alex Present would be him talking to that 30-year-old who wouldn't leave his parents' house.
Like, what have you become?
unidentified
What are you doing?
dan friesen
Just doing this for clicks?
jordan holmes
And the ghost of Christmas Future is his...
dan friesen
Him co-hosting with the 30-year-old.
That guy has now taken over InfoWars.
It's like, Alex, this is the future that lies in front of you.
jordan holmes
He's just looking at his own grave with no one around it, but fucking Jerome Corsi's prison...
I want to say Scrubs.
I want to say Scrubs, but they're not.
dan friesen
Dr. Group is there, but he's wearing a wig.
So no one knows it's him.
Ted Anderson doesn't even come.
That would be awesome.
So, at this point, we get another caller, and we get another review of the...
Actually, I'm sorry.
This is still that Las Vegas caller.
He's been hanging out for a while.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's there.
dan friesen
He's been hanging out for a bit, and he has another review of the Obama Deception.
alex jones
Okay.
Who was I talking to?
Jesse in Las Vegas.
Okay, you got the floor.
Tell me what's happening with the Obama Deception.
unidentified
Well, ultimately, my...
Well, first of all, the graphics on it, the sound, the production, amazing.
Thank you very much for being such a professional and honing your craft.
jordan holmes
Wrong.
unidentified
The reason why I was calling today actually had more to do with martial law here in Las Vegas, Nevada.
dan friesen
Got a punt on that one.
That's not real.
jordan holmes
Can you declare martial law in Las Vegas, Nevada?
dan friesen
I don't know.
It doesn't pick up steam on the show.
He doesn't latch onto it as a narrative because something else happens that's far more important.
But, yeah, suffice it to say, his review is fully wrong.
Those graphics were terrible.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It was not a professional job.
jordan holmes
The title card's got people's shit wrong.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
So, like I said...
Las Vegas Martial Law is going to have to take a back burner because there's another...
jordan holmes
Oh man, I would watch the show Las Vegas Martial Law though.
That is...
dan friesen
Would that be a NCAS type situation?
jordan holmes
I'm going to go back to Walker, Texas Ranger type situation.
The guy's name is Marshall Law.
Oh, done.
dan friesen
I like this.
jordan holmes
Lives in Las Vegas.
He's an inveterate gambler and he's got a serious drug problem also.
Chief of Police, Dan.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Okay, this is, now we're in like a bad lieutenant port of Call of New Orleans.
dan friesen
The globalists tell him that they'll pay off his gambling debt.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He owes some bad people some money.
unidentified
Oh yeah, of course he does.
dan friesen
They're gonna kill his kids or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
They'll pay off his gambling debt if he'll agree to federalize the Las Vegas police.
And then bring in martial law with a FEMA camp that's in Harris Casino.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
There's a lot of posse commentatus rules that are going to be bandied about on this show.
dan friesen
Now, this is all the cold open.
This is all the cold open.
This is prologue.
The show is actually like Hogan's Heroes, but inside the FEMA camp.
jordan holmes
Okay, I like that.
That sounds great.
dan friesen
I think we got a winner.
jordan holmes
We're going to need to flash forward after the first season, though.
dan friesen
You mean like the show Flash Forward?
jordan holmes
Oh, I think that sounds good.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
You don't want to do what they did.
jordan holmes
What if we throw in a little quantum leap at the end?
I think that sounds great.
dan friesen
So he meets God, who's a bartender, and tells him you could have gone home at any point.
You could have ended martial law anytime you wanted!
jordan holmes
Anytime!
You were the chief of police!
Even though you were in a FEMA camp, you could just write shit down?
Come on, man.
dan friesen
You agreed to be federalized, though.
That might be a winner of a show.
jordan holmes
God just says, dude, that was unconstitutional.
dan friesen
Once we have a little bit more time, we'll sit down and flesh out the beats on this, see if we can shop it around in pilot season.
jordan holmes
Sounds like a plan.
dan friesen
So like I said, Las Vegas martial law is going to have to wait, both the show and Alex talking about it as a narrative, because something else is on Alex's mind, and it's something we've talked about already.
But Alex loses his fucking mind about it on the show, and it's hilarious.
alex jones
You know, a lot of what Obama is doing, they're openly announcing, but quite a bit of it they're not.
I mean, they passed last Thursday a national draft bill that is for women as well.
The feds force middle school students to work for the federal government in basically brainwashing seminars.
High schoolers, 18 to 24 for military and domestic, a new domestic military conscription.
Paul Watson's doing another big article on that that ties into the Pentagon's directive they put out three weeks ago.
dan friesen
Completely unrelated.
alex jones
One million person civilian military force.
It says in there it'll be forced military service.
It's just in a support role, not combat role.
You'll still get blown to bits.
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
Or have a good chance of it.
I mean, this is unbelievable and no one is talking about it.
dan friesen
No one is talking about it because it's bullshit that you're making up.
He's talking about the Department of Defense Directive 1404.10 that we've talked about already.
That's the forced going into war or whatever, which is not at all what that's about.
And then the other thing is the HR 1388 from 2009, which you can look up, which he's just reading the wrong version of the bill.
He's reading the version that was introduced, not the version that passed the House.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And not the version that ever was in the Senate.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
So he's losing his mind about this on the show, insinuating that there's a draft.
And when I listen to stuff like this, actually, when I started up the episode, and this is the road he was going down, I'm like, what is he going to do when that doesn't happen?
How do you get on air and be like, there's a fucking draft now!
And then six months later, there's still a draft.
It's there.
Don't worry about it.
jordan holmes
I was actually talking about the windows cracked a little bit.
We got that fixed.
dan friesen
Ted Anderson won't pay to soup up the studio.
jordan holmes
We had to put plastic around the walls.
dan friesen
Got a little wind.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's so weird to me because it's such a big thing.
It's such a huge, easy to be like, that's not true.
That has not happened.
That is not happening at all.
But he's clearly saying that there's now a draft.
jordan holmes
They were just having debates on it, Dan.
They were just bringing it up because nobody else was talking about it.
They were just having debates.
They weren't saying anything like Sandy Hook.
They weren't doing anything like that.
dan friesen
That probably would be his angle on it, but he is not having debates on this show.
But even though he's pissed off that no one else is covering it, he doesn't really want to talk about it now because he wants to take calls.
jordan holmes
He wants people to tell him how great the Obama decision was.
dan friesen
That's one thing he really, really wants, but there's something else he wants even more than taking calls.
alex jones
Now, look, I said I want to take a bunch of calls today, but every caller has been such important information.
I was spending about five minutes with each caller.
I promise, in the next segment, we're going to go to Justin, Robert, Groom, EJJ, and a bunch of folks.
So I get to everybody, you each get one minute.
I'm just going to sit here, shut up, and let you make your point.
I'm going to the next person, because I want to take a lot of calls today.
And I'm really mad at myself that I can hardly ever make myself do this.
I want to try today to take a lot of calls.
I've got a bunch of news coming up too, but for the next 10 minutes or so, I wanted to bring up Tyler Palmer, who comes on with us once a month, because preparedness is very important, and a lot of listeners have gotten these and been very excited by them, but other people email me and call me and say, I don't understand how this works.
dan friesen
He's having his water filter sponsor on the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, I was so fucking confused.
dan friesen
It takes him way too long to get to the point.
But yeah, Palmer is his...
E-Foods Direct is the survival food people who actually, interestingly, Ben Shapiro now sells survival food.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And...
It's through the same company Alex Jones used to use.
jordan holmes
Of course!
dan friesen
So that's a fun little commonality.
It's Ecola Blue, is the name of the water filtration sponsor.
So yeah, Alex has got to have his water filter guy.
I want to take your calls, but I've got to talk to the guy who pays me.
So I'm going to do that for a bit.
jordan holmes
That's a terrible name.
dan friesen
I know, it's really confusing, because what it does is it takes water out of the air, like moisture out of the air, and then filters it and makes it drinkable.
jordan holmes
Oh, that sounds really helpful if it works.
Don't think it does.
dan friesen
I think it does.
I mean, you can get an evaporator.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can do that.
dan friesen
But, spoiler alert, he does talk about how huge these filters are.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Like, if you want one for your whole house.
You know, for like your drinking water, for your shower water.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I should tell you, it's the size of a school bus.
jordan holmes
What?
Wait, what?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It for real is?
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh boy.
dan friesen
I was listening to that, I'm like, that's going to be prohibitive.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
That's not good.
What is the shipping cost on that alone?
dan friesen
I imagine it's free shipping.
They've got to do that.
That's how they get you.
jordan holmes
It is an Easter sale.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's how they get you.
I think that would be impossible for anybody who doesn't live completely off the grid.
I don't know if most people have a school bus size space to put that in.
jordan holmes
I'm trying to figure out if we have a room.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No, the answer is no.
dan friesen
I would say you're targeting a niche demo here in terms of people who want a school bus water filter.
jordan holmes
A demo that most likely don't have a radio, or if they do have a ham radio.
dan friesen
They might be listening to this on shortwave.
Yeah, it's possible.
Alex does do his shortwave broadcasting.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, he's done talking to his water filter guy, and it's mostly just Alex being like, what are your specials?
I hear they're great.
Yeah.
Like, okay, we're just doing a sales pitch here.
But he gets done, and he should have done more time with the water filter guy, because the next caller that he gets is a fucking anti-Semite.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
Right now, let's go to your phone calls.
Justin in North Carolina, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, Alex, how you doing today, buddy?
alex jones
Good, sir.
unidentified
Hey, I was going to ask you something.
I saw the Obama Deception.
I've actually watched it about three times.
I think it's a great film.
dan friesen
Too many times.
unidentified
I think he did a really good job.
It doesn't demonize his character personally.
It just tackles the whole issue of the New World Order.
One of the things I wanted to ask you about, though, I noticed when you were going over his staff and everything, you didn't mention in the film that most of them have dual citizenships with Israel.
Was there a reason that you decided to skip that?
Or was that just a conscious decision on your part, or you didn't think it was relevant?
dan friesen
So that's bad.
That's real bad.
jordan holmes
That's not a good story.
dan friesen
And what he's talking about is this idea of the right of return that Israel has.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
There's a right of return citizenship.
So any Jew, I'm sorry, anybody who's Jewish can go to Israel and become a citizen.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There is that, they're a country that allows that.
That is all he's saying, that they're eligible for that dual citizenship by virtue of the fact that they are, from a hereditary standpoint, Jewish.
So that's all he's saying.
Deeply fucked up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because that's not saying...
If he was saying that these people were all born in Israel and they moved here and they've retained their dual citizenship, I still think that's a stupid argument, but at least you'd be coming from a place where it's like, why doesn't anyone talk about how all these people were born in Israel?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Or something like that.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
At least that would be like a...
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
Let's think about this for a second.
All he's saying is just, I think, a fine veneer over saying...
These are Jewish people.
Why are they in positions in a government?
And that's crazy.
That's so deeply anti-Semitic.
jordan holmes
What state is he from?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Add that one to Mississippi and New Orleans.
And Louisiana.
dan friesen
Now, that's bad.
And I don't like hearing that from somebody.
Alex's response is even worse.
unidentified
Talk to me about that.
What do you think?
alex jones
This is what happened.
I get obsessed with research and literally taping hundreds of newscasts, reading documents, piles of research, and the guys came to me and they said, look, you've got to choose what you're putting in this.
We've got to get this off in the next couple weeks and get it done to have the DVDs and have it for PrisonPlanet.tv.
And no, I meant to get into that.
I meant to get into...
He's too busy to be anti-Semitic.
dan friesen
So he meant to get into that, which sucks, because he's probably just lying.
He's probably just saying like, oh yeah, I meant to do that.
That sort of thing.
But what he's actually saying to anyone who knows what is being expressed here is like, oh yeah, I meant to talk about the Jews.
jordan holmes
No, look, I wanted to demonize Jews, but they just said it was already overstuffed.
dan friesen
And it's hard to say whether or not he means to put that message out.
To his audience here, it's really hard to say.
I don't know if he's oblivious to the fact that all this guy is saying is that there are Jews in their cabinet.
Right.
Alex should know better and should be like, hey, man.
jordan holmes
I mean, my first reaction to that sentence was until you rightly pointed out the right of return citizenship as opposed to the citizenship, I was like, oh, that is...
I mean, yeah, it's strange that people from...
And then he just missed it entirely.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex's response is shit, and it goes on a little bit longer, and then he makes an announcement that I think will haunt me for the rest of my life.
alex jones
I meant to get into how most of his cabinet has to step down before they ever even get approved by the Senate because they're such mafia thugs.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
They have to step down from the mafia?
alex jones
More of how he wants to encircle Russia.
jordan holmes
I don't think you can do that.
alex jones
How they are planning on destabilizing things.
I meant to get more into the faith-based initiative.
And we've got a big announcement coming up next week.
I'm just going to leave it at that.
I've got a big announcement coming up next week.
I'm just going to...
Oh, you know what?
I'll just go ahead and make the announcement now.
Why wait?
Why do it?
jordan holmes
The Obama Deception's free!
alex jones
July 4th, I'm coming out with a second Obama film, okay?
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
Already?
dan friesen
He's pulling a Tarpley.
jordan holmes
Come on, man!
dan friesen
I didn't get everything out I wanted to say.
jordan holmes
And this one's all about the Jews!
dan friesen
Might as well.
If it's the response to this caller, that's kind of the feeling that it has.
unidentified
Yeesh.
dan friesen
So, we won't be covering that, whatever that movie was.
I don't know what that is.
jordan holmes
You don't even know which documentary that was?
dan friesen
I don't.
I imagine it's like Obama Deception 2.5 or 1.5.
unidentified
Yeah, sure.
dan friesen
It's something like that.
I don't know.
I have no interest in it.
jordan holmes
Obama Inception, I believe, is what it's called.
dan friesen
Based on the work that we've seen, and no amount of people donating to the show is going to make us go back.
I'm like, who is that?
In Jurassic Park 2. Or is it three?
Which one are they trying to lure people?
Yeah, it's three.
The Lost World is number two.
The third one where they're trying to get Sam Neill to go back to Jurassic Park so they can find the kid that's lost there or whatever.
He's like, I can write a lot of numbers on this check.
Nothing, nothing could get me back to Jurassic Park.
That's how I feel about the Obama Deception.
Someone like fucking Soros could come in and be like, I can write a lot of numbers on this check.
I'm like, Soros, get bent.
I'm not doing it.
Not doing a second fucking Obama deception.
jordan holmes
No, that ain't happening.
dan friesen
So this caller is an anti-Semite.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
This doesn't go well.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
But in addition to that, he also has some thoughts about Nicolas Cage movies.
Okay.
I'm actually, I'm all here to hear that.
You know, I'm about it.
jordan holmes
What are we talking?
Con Air?
National Treasure?
dan friesen
Nope.
It's a new one.
jordan holmes
Raising Arizona?
dan friesen
It's a new one in 2009.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
Hey, another thing I was going to ask you, too.
Have you had a chance to talk to anybody about that new Nicolas Cage movie, The Knowing, that came out?
Have you seen that yet?
alex jones
You know, I miss a lot of things, but I did get some emails about that, but I didn't have a chance to check into it.
No, what's it about?
unidentified
Oh, it's completely Illuminati.
It's about an astrologer who stumbles onto a 50-year numerological code of about major disasters and events that are going to happen in the world.
And basically at the end of the film, there's an extinction-level event that happens.
But one of the first codes that he breaks was 9-11-2001, and then it gives the latitude and longitude of the attack and how many people die in it.
So, I mean, it's tied in pretty deep.
dan friesen
It's not.
Have you ever seen Knowing?
jordan holmes
No.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
What?
unidentified
This is my favorite film.
dan friesen
It's probably the hardest I've ever laughed in a theater.
Uh-huh.
unidentified
So I worked at a movie theater when this came out, and I...
dan friesen
Maybe I didn't.
I don't know.
Maybe I knew someone who worked at the theater.
Whatever the case, I saw a screening of it and it was just me and my friends drunk in the screening.
And so the plot of the movie is Nicolas Cage's son goes to a school and they have a time capsule.
And inside the time capsule, every kid at the school gets one item from it.
And Nicolas Cage's kid gets a big sheet of paper that has a bunch of numbers on it.
And so he gets obsessed and he's looking over all these numbers.
And he can't crack the code.
Can't figure out what's with these numbers.
And so he has them all written on a dry erase board and is trying to figure out all the code and everything.
And so this shot that made me laugh so hard is he's sitting there drinking a scotch.
Late night, dark room, drinking a scotch, looking at these numbers.
Can't figure it out.
Sets the glass down on the piece of paper that has all the numbers on it.
Picks the glass up to have another drink.
Looks down.
There's a glass.
unidentified
Oh, no!
dan friesen
There's a water ring.
jordan holmes
And that's 9-11.
dan friesen
Around 9-11, 2001.
But that's not the part that made me laugh.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
I was like, that's pretty clunky.
jordan holmes
That's pretty fun.
dan friesen
The next shot it flashes to is him Googling 9-11.
unidentified
laughter Ha ha ha ha!
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
He's like sitting there with a scotch.
I fucking know those numbers.
jordan holmes
Where do I know those numbers from?
Who do I know 9-11 from?
Oh, that's strange.
dan friesen
So, that movie is deep.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
That's good.
That's good.
I like that.
He googled 9-11.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What was he looking for?
dan friesen
Also, there's aliens involved at the end of that.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's good.
Have you seen his most recent movie?
dan friesen
I have not.
I haven't seen a lot of his movies.
jordan holmes
It is fantastic.
He fights a cult.
dan friesen
I love it.
jordan holmes
And, like, it starts out very slow and ponderous, and they deal with all this stuff.
And at the end, there's a chainsaw fight, man on man.
dan friesen
Love it.
jordan holmes
It's great.
dan friesen
I'm a Nicolas Cage fan, but I will admit, I have not seen a lot of his more recent work.
jordan holmes
Greatest Living Actor.
dan friesen
But Knowing was the fucking shit.
So fucking funny.
So there's an extinction-level event, and what ends up happening is these aliens come down, and they take Nicolas Cage's son, and then...
The daughter of someone else at the school and take them to a planet to repopulate it.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice.
It's an Adam and Eve story at the end?
dan friesen
It really gets weird at the end.
That is not at all...
You know, when you're telling a story and you have a big reveal at the end, you kind of like to give clues along the way.
jordan holmes
It's a good idea.
Otherwise, it was all a dream bullshit.
dan friesen
I admit, I might have been drinking through the movie and all that, but I still was like, hold on.
Aliens?
What's going on here?
I was unprepared for this.
jordan holmes
And Nicolas Cage googled what planet did they take her to and it turns out it was...
dan friesen
Oh, he's dead, man.
unidentified
Oh, he's dead?
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, he's dead.
Nicolas Cage has to sacrifice himself so his son may live.
jordan holmes
On another planet.
That's not really a win.
dan friesen
Nah, it's a push.
jordan holmes
It's a little bit of a push, I guess?
dan friesen
I love that movie, though, and I'm so glad.
Now I want to watch it.
It's so good.
I think I've ruined it for you, because that Google 9-11 thing is so crazy.
It's not like it's 20 years later, either.
It's 2009 when it came out.
jordan holmes
Wait, does he Google 9-1-1, or does he actually put the slash in there?
dan friesen
I should tell you.
So he has the ring, the cup ring on the page with 9-11-2001, or it might be 9-11-01.
I don't remember exactly.
But so he writes those numbers up on the dry erase board, and then he starts breaking them up.
So it's like 91-10-1.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
What is this?
jordan holmes
That's not right.
That's not right.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
So he's trying to find it.
It's the best.
It's like a scene that's like...
If I were the director and the writer had come up with that, I'd be like, no.
No.
I'm not putting that in the movie.
That's stupid.
That is really stupid.
jordan holmes
Nope.
It stays, Dan.
It stays or I walk.
dan friesen
I'm so glad they did, though.
So anyway, that guy's antisemitic, but he allowed me to talk about knowing.
jordan holmes
And now we all know.
dan friesen
So he's still an asshole.
Now, Jordan?
jordan holmes
Yeah?
dan friesen
You may remember a ways back on the show.
Months.
Months and months ago.
jordan holmes
Then the answer is no.
dan friesen
We talked about...
You'll remember this.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
We talked about a guy named Don DeGrand Prix.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
Of course I remember that.
What am I going to forget?
The greatest name we've ever heard?
dan friesen
Something none of us will ever forget.
He's a complete crazy dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And a liar.
But Alex gets another call.
The guy tells him that he loves the Obama deception.
And then he says this, which will...
Mic down on this.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
It's short.
But it is my favorite clip I think I've ever heard on this show.
It made me laugh so hard.
unidentified
Anyway, another thing.
What's the latest on Colonel Don D. Grand Prix?
Have we found out how he's doing?
alex jones
Yes, he died.
unidentified
Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.
Well, anyway, thanks, Alex.
You're doing a great job.
alex jones
Thank you, sir.
I appreciate your call.
unidentified
I appreciate your call.
dan friesen
Any updates on talking?
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's dead.
Well, sorry to hear about that.
Anyways.
Yeah, you're going to talk about them Jews anytime soon?
dan friesen
Different caller, but man.
Oh, God, I love that so much.
He's been dead for years.
jordan holmes
Wait, so what kind of answer was he hoping for?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I think Alex was suggesting that he might still be alive weeks before this or something like that.
Remember, he did bring up his name not too far back.
But, uh, nah, he dead.
unidentified
He dead.
dan friesen
The pause in there is so good.
jordan holmes
I love the just, like, well, alright, I will talk to you later then, I guess.
dan friesen
Well, that news was tough to hear.
Why did he want?
jordan holmes
I want to know more about that guy now.
dan friesen
Don de Grand Prix is very important.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Not important enough to know whether he's dead or alive.
Right, right, right.
But he's very important and we need an update on him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's dead.
jordan holmes
Well, alrighty then.
dan friesen
You're doing a good job, Alex.
I will mourn in private.
jordan holmes
Who are you, dude?
Who would call into the show just asking for...
Oh, that's great.
dan friesen
That's great.
jordan holmes
I want to know him.
dan friesen
So we get another caller here, and he is the bearer of bad news, which will bring us back to Alex's...
jordan holmes
Don de Grand Prix is alive!
dan friesen
He's a witch!
No, it's not that.
It's Alex's earlier attempt to bring up the draft narrative.
This caller helps him make that presentation a little bit more salacious.
alex jones
Go ahead.
You're on the air, Brian.
unidentified
Thank you, Alex Jones.
I just want to say I love your work, and I love the Obamaception, and I'm handing it out to as many people as I can.
alex jones
First, let me ask you, what are they saying when they get a copy?
Boo!
jordan holmes
Fuck you.
unidentified
I think people are pretty surprised.
Some people are pretty hesitant to take it.
And I've got death threats to people telling me that I should be killed and calling me a Republican or a racist.
Well, maybe.
My main reason for the call is the draft bill passed the Senate 74-14.
I don't know if you were aware of that.
alex jones
No, I wasn't.
I can't keep track of it all.
What is the Senate bill on that?
I actually had it printed out.
jordan holmes
I can't keep track of the biggest story that I'm telling you.
unidentified
What is it?
Service for All Ages Act or something like that?
alex jones
Yes, okay.
Guys, Google Service for All Ages Act.
Pull up Paul Wilson's article from Thursday.
But I predicted it would pass the Senate because they're even more globalist than the House on average.
dan friesen
Cool.
There's a really easy way to keep track of this stuff.
The government has websites that, like, the government publishing office has a website where they put up every even, like, introduced bill and stuff like that.
If he knew about that, he could have gone there and found the different versions of the bill and seen the changes that have been made and realized, oh, guys, everything I was complaining about isn't real.
Sorry, that's in the past.
Whatever.
Oh, sorry.
And it also has a bill tracker on it.
We can keep track of like, oh, this was introduced.
Right now it's in committee.
Oh, and then you check back a couple days later.
Oh, look at this.
It's being debated on the floor.
All that stuff is a resource that is very available.
And Alex seems to have no idea that that's available, which is troubling, considering in 2009 he's been on air for nigh on 24 years.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That's crazy.
jordan holmes
He does know.
dan friesen
He has to have his staff Google a supposed name of the bill.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's not good.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
That's really bad.
jordan holmes
It's right there for him.
dan friesen
That is Obama deception level of research.
jordan holmes
He does know when a Domino's pizza is going to get there, though.
dan friesen
That is true.
jordan holmes
He can track that.
dan friesen
Pizza tracker.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Ah, goddammit, Pete.
Take my pizza out of the oven.
Oh, it's on the way.
Very exciting.
So Alex doesn't quite believe this guy.
And he's needing his staff to Google it and figure out what...
What's really going on?
Right.
Because he doesn't trust anybody who doesn't work at Infowars.
Why would you?
unidentified
That's foolish.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he has this guy named Matt Martin come on the show.
He's a GOP operative out of Missouri.
This guy is important.
I guess it's not really all that important, but he works with an anti-abortion group in Missouri.
He ended up later being one of the guys that CNN would go to for Trump defense.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
And then he ended up getting fired unceremoniously from CNN because he was such a shithead.
jordan holmes
Right, because he's added Missouri to the list of states along with Mississippi and Louisiana.
dan friesen
I'm going to have to take that one on the chin.
My home state deserves defense, but nah.
unidentified
Nah.
dan friesen
He was the guy who they went to after Jeffrey Lord tweeted...
Bunch of Nazi shit.
And then they had to fire him.
So Matt Martin was the guy they chose.
Like, we need someone to defend Trump.
Let's get this fucking dickhole.
jordan holmes
You could just not.
dan friesen
Good.
jordan holmes
How many guys?
Do you need to get to defend Trump who get fired for saying Nazi shit before you're like, I think there might be a pattern here.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
One is a coincidence.
Two is a coincidence.
Three, still a coincidence.
jordan holmes
No, I'm pretty sure that's a pattern.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
No, that's when it's a pattern.
dan friesen
Nah, foolish.
So anyway, he is on because, as we know, the MIAC report is huge.
It's in the air.
jordan holmes
Biggest deal.
dan friesen
Alex has decided because he's dumb.
That it's calling Ron Paul fans terrorists.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And they are hell-bent to get an apology about this.
So, what Matt Martin has done is he's making moves in order to get this retracted.
I'm not sure if it's his efforts or someone else's, but they do eventually get Missouri to redact that or recant.
And so he's on.
He says something very interesting on this episode.
I think it should illustrate...
The hypocrisy and patheticness of people like him and like Alex Jones.
unidentified
Our group charged ahead.
Sorry to interrupt you.
Our group charged ahead.
And, you know, we have very little in common with the ACLU too often.
But we went to the ACLU and said, you guys are supposed to be standing up for civil liberties.
This is an example.
And let's use your own clout and go ahead, of course, betraying their true colors.
We've heard nary a word from them, and they're not...
dan friesen
I don't really care if they're helping or not.
You suck so much if you complain about the ACLU all day long, about it being a globalist nonsense fraud, and then when you have a complaint, you're like, hey, no one listens to me, but they listen to you.
Can you help us?
That's real fucking stupid.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
That's real stupid.
jordan holmes
No, come on.
dan friesen
That's next level.
Like, hey, look, I wasn't being serious before when I said that you guys were all globalists and you were working to help pedophiles and demons and what have you.
I didn't mean that.
I need your help.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Boo.
jordan holmes
No, no.
They're hypocritical pieces of shit who could go fucking kill themselves.
I don't give a shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's awful.
jordan holmes
Awful.
dan friesen
That is the score.
jordan holmes
The ACLU is 100% wrong all of the time.
They're globalists and they're evil.
Also, if you guys are, you know.
dan friesen
If you're not busy.
jordan holmes
If you've got some time.
dan friesen
Everyone thinks that we're a bunch of dicks.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And we always make bad points when no one listens to us.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But people seem to like you.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
You guys are, this time.
And this time only, defenders of the downtrodden who don't have any kind of political clout of their own.
dan friesen
That seems to be what Alex Jones says every single time the ACLU defends someone on his side, because that's what they do.
Defend whoever needs defending when their civil liberties are being encroached upon.
jordan holmes
And in this particular instance, nobody's civil liberties were being encroached upon at all.
dan friesen
Seems outside of their purview.
So Alex is trying to make people really afraid on this show.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
You know, he's talking about the draft and all this.
We have this interview about the MIAC report.
They're calling us terrorists.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
All that stuff.
And this next clip, I think, is one of the most weird...
It's the weirdest juxtaposition of things.
Because he's coming back from break.
And he's trying to make everyone really afraid.
But perhaps the music choice is the exact opposite of what he would have liked.
unidentified
Youth Brigade's FEMA camps.
alex jones
builds the van on the road.
We're all semi-autos.
Open talk and mainstream news about martial law.
dan friesen
Come on, baby!
alex jones
State police being taught that we're all basically criminals that love America.
We got the documents, called the Army, confirmed it.
We had our in the Fed protest.
In Dallas, the Army was watching us there as terrorists.
This is what's going on.
This is what's happening.
This is the reality.
And the House has passed a national draft, an expansive draft for women as well, for your children under federal control.
They're taking over right now.
dan friesen
But please don't feel the grief.
Seasons don't feel the grief.
alex jones
Be afraid of everything!
jordan holmes
Through the wind and the sun and the rain, we can be like they are.
They're gonna kill you!
dan friesen
That's nuts, man.
I love that.
Thematically, you couldn't set up a better signal that you're fucking with people than to make them afraid over Don't Fear the Reaper.
That's crazy.
So that's great.
But also, I don't know if you noticed that, but that's the second time so far that he's talked about the draft and specifically been like, they're going to get your women too.
That's weird.
jordan holmes
You can't have them getting your women.
dan friesen
He brings that up over and over again.
And I know that that's probably just because it is a theoretical difference from the old draft that was just for men.
But still, it feels like he's trying to make people...
He's trying to trigger people's...
His listeners' chivalrous defenses or whatever.
I think that's what he's trying to register.
jordan holmes
I suppose they would...
Consider it chivalrous defense, but in reality it's more like, well, now we can't control them!
dan friesen
That's why I almost said chauvinist defense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, chauvinist defense is definitely the way to go.
dan friesen
There's a thin line between the two.
So, you know, you should fear the Reaper.
That's definitely true.
And you should fear everything else.
You should fear the globalists.
You should fear this draft bill.
You should fear the MIAC report.
You should fear Obama, who's clearly a demon.
All that sort of thing.
jordan holmes
I'm more afraid of one of those water filters falling on me.
Those things are huge.
dan friesen
They're big as a fucking school bus.
Don't loft it.
jordan holmes
Don't loft your water filter.
dan friesen
So the reason that I'm trying to bring this home about being afraid is because Alex Jones...
I don't know if you know this.
We've done like 200 episodes of this show, but I don't know if you know this.
Alex Jones is a brave man.
He's very brave.
He has a steely front to himself that he puts on.
A brave face.
He faces adversity.
He faces the globalists at every turn.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And he is not shaken by them.
He says, no!
I will meet you on the battleground, and I will keep strong visage.
jordan holmes
You're really hamming this one up.
dan friesen
You know what?
There's no reason to.
jordan holmes
You just needed it?
dan friesen
I just went down a weird road, and then I just kept talking.
Anyway, the point is that Alex is never afraid of the globalists and the New World Order, but today he is.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
alex jones
Normally, I'm so deep into fighting the New World Order that I don't let it get to me.
And it's always in the late hours of the evening that it really upsets me.
dan friesen
Because I'm drunk.
jordan holmes
It shakes me.
unidentified
Shakespeare.
Every word you say, every game you play, every game you play.
jordan holmes
But...
Now we're just listening to this song?
Now we're just listening to this song.
alex jones
They are setting up the most hardcore tyranny ever seen, integrating the Nazis, the Soviets, all of their systems, youth brigades, forced drafts, tattletale squads.
jordan holmes
Give three more examples.
alex jones
If it's passed the House, we're still trying to confirm.
If it's passed the Senate, AP reports they're debating it.
unidentified
Nope.
alex jones
We don't have a headline yet.
They call it AmeriCorps, expanding national service in the New York Times.
The AP calls it Senate set to vote on expansion of AmeriCorps.
But I have the bill here in front of me.
dan friesen
It's the wrong version of the bill.
If he just went to the government publishing office, it would be so easy.
Like, he just went and looked into it, he could see, like, oh, different version of the bill.
My bad, guys, sorry.
That's all he's doing.
He ends up reading portions of the bill later, and it's like, oh, yeah, that's the old version.
Oh.
Yeah, okay, you got the bill in front of you, but it's the wrong one.
It's crazy how amateurish this is.
And he has multiple people working there.
No one is like, hey, Alex, you're lying.
You're lying by omission of fact here.
jordan holmes
Does he think that if they pass any version of the bill, all versions of the bill get passed?
dan friesen
Maybe.
I mean, based on his total ignorance about this sort of thing, maybe he thinks that.
And I should also be clear and point out that even if the introduced version of the bill passed, it wouldn't have created a draft or forced service.
on anybody.
That's also a misunderstanding of the original text of the bill, but the part that says mandatory service is from the old version of the bill.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's really just about trying to see if there is a way to set something like that up for whether it would be helpful or not.
Yeah.
unidentified
Which implies that the answer You set up this study, you find out, no, it's not helpful.
dan friesen
So you wouldn't do it.
jordan holmes
And then it goes away.
dan friesen
Right.
That's entirely possible based on the language of the introduced bill, but that language was stricken from it, so who gives a shit?
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
Alex is just dumb.
jordan holmes
This is dumb.
dan friesen
It's very dumb.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, he's also willfully ignorant about it.
dan friesen
No, I'm sure.
It's a little bit of both.
It's weird.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's weird.
But you would think that anybody in there would be like, Alex, you're going down a road real hard, this draft road.
And it's based on a very elementary misunderstanding that you're making.
You should save yourself the trouble of looking like a dick, in hindsight.
jordan holmes
I don't think anybody's ever said that to him.
dan friesen
Because the version that has that language taken out, this is the 24th here.
At least five days, possibly a week before this, that language was taken out of the bill.
There's no reason why he shouldn't know that.
So, we look back on this now, like, nine years later, and we're like, oh, wow, this is a real indication of, like...
Outright deceit or just the worst fucking work.
jordan holmes
And he literally said to the guy, I don't have time to follow up with this.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
My biggest story that I am hamming up.
All the time.
dan friesen
That is a problem.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to follow up on it.
dan friesen
I have been busy not seeing the movie knowing.
I've been busy thinking about making another documentary about Obama and the Jews.
jordan holmes
I was across state lines killing Don DeGrand Prix, actually.
dan friesen
Got an update on the murder of Don DeGrand Prix?
jordan holmes
It was me.
unidentified
He's dead.
jordan holmes
All right, well.
dan friesen
Good work.
jordan holmes
You have a good one.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, in this next clip, Alex goes out to break like a fucking revivalist minister.
He is feeling the spirit.
alex jones
My God, it's a vortex of evil.
And they want your bank accounts.
They want your children.
They want you to be indentured servants.
This is it.
They're launching a taxidermist.
At every level, you've got to wake up.
You've got to get the Obama deception on DVD and get it out to everybody.
They're openly announcing they want to shut down the web.
Jay Rockefeller, it's openly happening.
This is the time to be awake.
This is the time to be involved.
dan friesen
Paul Watson, stay with us!
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
I wasn't very rousing, actually.
dan friesen
No, not really.
But I think the point he was trying to get to was the buy my DVD.
jordan holmes
You need to buy the DVD.
dan friesen
Give it to everybody.
Buy my DVDs.
jordan holmes
I do like the way he slipped it in the middle there.
Like, oh, everybody's coming for you.
They're going to kill us.
Buy my DVD.
And then they're going for you.
And then the Rockefellers run!
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
It's that crazy thing where it's like, you know, sort of mid-level manipulators and liars know that if you say what you mean last, it's really glaring.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's obvious.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So I think Alex is sort of in that camp.
But, like he said there, Paul Watson.
What?
Paul Joseph Watson has called in.
He's on the line.
It's a very rare 2009 verbal Paul Watson appearance.
jordan holmes
So now you can say that the UK is added to the list of Mississippi, Missouri, Louisiana?
dan friesen
And Sheffield.
So Paul Watson is on the phone.
PJ Dubs, if you're nasty.
And he has to be the bearer of the actual bad news for Alex.
alex jones
Paul Watson, I know I'm ranting, but we should be ranting.
My God, I'm sick of this!
Alex, it passed the Senate last night.
unidentified
I mean, there's been so little coverage of it.
alex jones
Oh, my God.
We didn't even see it.
Oh, my God.
How did you confirm that?
Red level.
Red level.
How did you...
unidentified
Whoa.
alex jones
How did you discover that?
Give me the documentation.
dan friesen
How did you discover that?
paul joseph watson
The headline is National Service Corps Bill Clears Senate Hurdle.
unidentified
It's the New York Times, 74 to 14. Where did you find that?
jordan holmes
The New York Times.
alex jones
You know why I freak out?
Because I keep thinking we're going to stop them, we're going to back them off.
Folks, they're going to do it all.
They're going to stage terror attacks next.
They're going to launch new wars next.
Paul, this is, they're going for, the gun confiscation's coming, folks.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
They're coming for your guns.
Paul, read me the article.
jordan holmes
That has the feel of a play.
He is really overactive.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
alex jones
That's bad.
dan friesen
That is a big part of it.
And the way his brain is working, like jumping around from idea to idea, finally landing on guns, guns, guns.
Oh, there we go.
That's the one.
That's the one.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's very clear, like, this is performative to a great degree.
And that leads me to think that he does know that it's not a draft.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, you always wonder, like, what is the lie?
What is the sort of element of trickery?
Is he dumb enough to think that this is a draft?
And that, to me, indicates no.
He knows that this is just a good advertisement for his documentary.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is the Obama deception ad.
Getting people real riled up and banking on the fact that they won't remember a week from now when you've moved on to another narrative.
jordan holmes
Which is why he's really mad that the bill passed.
Because so long as they're debating the bill, you can feel like we're fighting it.
But once the bill passes and nothing happens...
dan friesen
And Orrin Hatch said that it was the most...
Bipartisan bill they'll see all year.
jordan holmes
That's because they're all globalists, Dan!
dan friesen
Bingo.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
That quote Alex actually probably could use.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right!
He should be doing that!
We gotta stop giving advice to 2009 Alex.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're right though.
So many of these other bills that he brings up are stupid things that die in committee or dumb shit Ron Paul's trying to do.
And as long as there isn't forward progress with it...
Then, yeah, you can just use that forever.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Like, he still uses the Emergency Center's Establishment Act that died in committee in 2009.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So, like, yeah.
jordan holmes
But it could be resurrected at any time.
dan friesen
Rex 84 is erected.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Which is a terrible thing.
But now it's great.
dan friesen
But it's great.
You're right, though, yeah.
Yeah, that is an interesting thing I hadn't thought about.
The fact that once it passes, it kind of hurts.
He's probably, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because nothing's going to happen.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because he knows it's all bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But that doesn't stop him from fake crying about it.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's going to fake cry?
alex jones
It is now passed.
It is now law.
Mass total slavery.
It is confirmed.
Again, we're not omnipresent.
That's why I caller alerted us an hour ago.
In my gut, all I've been thinking about is just the last two days.
jordan holmes
They also aren't omnipresent.
alex jones
I knew they were debating it.
I've been sick at my stomach.
I have been very upset.
jordan holmes
Whoa.
alex jones
Because this is disgusting.
unidentified
Oh, this is bad.
alex jones
It's so horrible to our precious republic that is completely falling to this.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he also said he's upset at his stomach again.
So that's just a thing he says, apparently.
unidentified
That's weird.
jordan holmes
It's a weird thing to say.
dan friesen
I don't know if you've ever, I know you have, but I don't know if everyone listening has ever listened to the Dead Authors podcast where Andy Daly plays L. Ron Hubbard.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
dan friesen
But that right there, him, Alex, pretending he's sad, sounds exactly like Andy Daly.
alex jones
That makes me feel bad.
dan friesen
Do not trust the quivering lip of this man.
It really sounds exactly like someone hamming it up.
Play it for comedy, almost.
jordan holmes
It's crazy.
Yeah, that's awful.
dan friesen
Alex has no sincerity in him at all.
It's crazy.
So, in 2018, Alex is really mad about the idea that people are calling Donald Trump Hitler, or calling people in the alt-right Hitler, that sort of thing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Especially, like, right after the election, it's all this, like, he just got into office, what are you doing?
All that sort of thing.
Now we see here, we're listening to this, it's March 24th, 2009.
Obama's been in office about, you know, two months and nine days.
Here's what Alex says about him.
alex jones
I want to commend all of you out there.
I want to commend you right now.
And I don't know if I'll make it through all this, but I know this.
We're going to beat these bastards in the end.
God's promised us that.
All the king's horses and all the king's men aren't going to put the stinking New World Order together.
It is going to be forged, it will rise, and it will begin collapsing the moment they put the capstone on it.
You look at that man on your screen, Barack Obama, that is a would-be dictator.
That is the elite empowering him.
You want to see a Stalin or a Hitler?
You are looking at the next Adolf Hitler.
You are looking at the next Joseph Stalin.
He has the spirit of wicked power.
He has a spirit of deception.
He is highest caliber evil.
dan friesen
That was quick.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what did he do?
dan friesen
He was on the screen.
jordan holmes
He looked evil.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
He thinks he's starting a draft.
jordan holmes
I mean, literally, what did he do in the first two months in nine days?
dan friesen
Well, Alex misread a bill.
jordan holmes
Right, but he didn't write it.
dan friesen
No, there was the...
Was the stimulus that quick?
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
Obamacare wasn't even a twinkle in anybody's eye just yet.
dan friesen
Alex misread a bill.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
He hired Rahm Emanuel.
jordan holmes
Well, that is bad.
That is bad.
I will agree there.
dan friesen
I think you might think that for different reasons, Alex.
jordan holmes
Well, yes.
dan friesen
That's about it.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think he played some basketball.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's scary.
That's Hitler-esque.
Hitler had a great jump shot, by the way.
dan friesen
That's true.
unidentified
That's true.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I can't think of a whole lot else that isn't like...
It takes a while to start presidenting.
Well, I mean, Obama didn't write the Mayak report.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
So that's not on him.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think it's all just misunderstandings that Alex has that could be cleared up with just a little reading or talking to somebody that you don't then start yelling at.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That could solve all of this.
Anyway, this is...
So the Don DeGrand pre-call.
Was one of the things that made me laugh so hard.
jordan holmes
And now Don DeGray-Bree is going to call in.
dan friesen
I wish.
jordan holmes
That'd be great.
dan friesen
He wants to know about Israeli dual citizenship.
No.
Okay.
That call made me lose my shit.
And I was like, that's one of the big reasons why I'm like, I'm so glad to be listening to the show instead of the documentary.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
But then this, he gets a call towards the end of the show, and this is so weird.
Alex's response to this guy is unfathomable.
I have no idea what's going through his head.
alex jones
Let's go ahead and talk to Jason in Kentucky.
Jason, go ahead.
Hey, Alex.
unidentified
I'm 29. I've been married for about a year now.
And my wife and I are considering having our first child and bringing a baby into this world.
I know you and I are a similar age.
alex jones
Do it!
jordan holmes
Whoa!
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Whoa!
dan friesen
Me and my wife are thinking I'm going to get...
unidentified
Do it!
jordan holmes
I'm a fucker now!
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
No!
Gestation is nine months!
I don't know if we have that much time!
dan friesen
I can't quite figure out what I think about this call, because I think Alex is sussing out that he's Jason in Kentucky, he's a white guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So you should have kids.
jordan holmes
I suppose.
dan friesen
I think that might be a part of it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know what I'm saying?
Like, if it was Muhammad from Florida or whatever, I don't think he'd scream, have more kids.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I doubt it.
dan friesen
It does feel that way, but I don't know.
I think that...
I think the greater context of the call is Jason's asking him, you know, like, the world's getting bad, you know, we're thinking about having kids, should we still?
jordan holmes
That's the point.
dan friesen
And Alex's point on it is, like...
jordan holmes
We're gonna need more whites in the end.
dan friesen
Well, see, that's behind everything, but at the same time, the way he presents it is, like, this idea of, like, it's a wonderful time to be able...
They can live through the great change, or whatever, which I still think...
jordan holmes
I'm gonna go with Boo on that.
dan friesen
It's a bad argument, because if shit's going to get really bad, and the dollar's going to get devalued, and we're going to have food lines, and people are going to turn into cannibals after a week, and all that other shit, the summer of rage that's coming, you don't want to have to protect a baby through that, and a baby isn't really going to experience it until it's years old.
So, I mean, that's just going to be traumatic.
It's going to be something that, should we make it through to the other end, that baby's going to need years of therapy.
jordan holmes
Or, what if you have the baby, and then you die?
You're in the...
You get cannibalized.
dan friesen
What if it's a curious case?
unidentified
Ooh!
dan friesen
Baby comes out an adult.
Or what if it's like Jack?
Baby grows really fast.
jordan holmes
I don't want to talk about Jack.
dan friesen
I don't either.
jordan holmes
I don't want to talk about Jack.
I'd rather talk about tippy toes, dude.
dan friesen
Fine.
The thing is, like, all of Alex's arguments, that sort of idea of, like, it'll be a remarkable time to live through and all that stuff, that falls flat.
And the only thing that really feels like Alex is he thinks this guy's white.
And he's afraid of the demographic cliff.
That sort of thing.
That's the only thing I can really think of.
jordan holmes
Or he thinks the great change is actually going to be 15 to 25 years away.
dan friesen
Sure.
Or even 10. If that's the case, then he should shut the fuck up about this draft.
jordan holmes
Alex, we're hoping to have a kid here.
Do it!
Do it!
They're going to need more people in the draft!
dan friesen
They're going to draft babies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're going to draft babies next.
dan friesen
I know about that.
jordan holmes
Women first, then children.
That's just science.
dan friesen
So he talks to this caller, tells him to have a family, and then he gets back to doing what he does best, which is pretending to cry.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I got really upset earlier because it just hits me.
I can't just sit here day after day calmly talking about this when they just passed a mega draft for women as well.
jordan holmes
Really got to stop saying it like that.
alex jones
Oh, a volunteer thing just passed and you read it and it says compulsory service.
I mean, you know, and they're building death camps.
I mean, I just...
This doesn't have to happen if people will get up off their big fat bunch.
You're going to make me feel bad.
dan friesen
That's sad.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's really...
Like, it's stupid and funny, but it's so dumb when you're...
Like, when you have...
The information.
You know that he's reading the wrong version of the bill.
It's just...
You look at this and you're like, Alex, what are you even doing?
jordan holmes
Does he know women are already in the military?
dan friesen
He's not into it.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's not?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That seems odd.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I think he...
You know what?
I don't know his position on that.
If I had to guess, I would say he's probably one of these guys who's like, they shouldn't serve with men.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
Because you can't control men's behavior.
dan friesen
It feels like he might be on that tip, but I don't know.
I'm talking irresponsibly.
I don't know his position.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's weird.
I would be surprised now if there was a draft that didn't...
Like, if there was a draft, which would be...
Stupid and awful.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But if there was, I would be shocked if it was just a male draft.
dan friesen
I think that...
jordan holmes
Doesn't that sound crazy?
dan friesen
It does, yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
That sounds insane!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we have one more clip, Jordan, and it's where Alex is...
He's dismounting.
He's ending the show.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And we see what this is kind of really about for him.
All this pageantry of faking, crying, misunderstanding old versions of Bill's.
jordan holmes
Oh, I sense some gold buying coming soon.
alex jones
But I'm telling you, I am powerless without you.
Everybody tells me what I should do in this.
I am busting my butt.
And I'm not saying I'm good because I did that.
It's my duty.
But, I mean, I am not all powerful.
I'm nobody.
I'm just some average guy.
It's all up to you.
I need everybody to drop what they're doing, get the Obama deception, buy a thousand DVD copies.
Let me tell you, if you need a fake grassroots movement, if you'll turn it loose, the truth is more powerful than the lie, we will kick their ass.
And I'm sorry I'm talking like that, but I am literally, I'll tell you, I want to fight for freedom.
I want to fight evil.
And I feel like I could take on 20 people right now.
You know that feeling?
dan friesen
I don't.
jordan holmes
I thought you were just an average guy.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he can take on 20 men because he's fighting for freedom.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And I don't know that feeling.
But also, I'm here to say, the truth does not spread faster than the lie.
jordan holmes
No, no, it does not, Dan.
dan friesen
The truth is not more powerful than the lie in any way.
jordan holmes
Very slow.
dan friesen
In any way.
Even nine years ago, the lie is...
So powerful and so much stronger than truth.
Propaganda is incredibly effective when you have a dumb asshole putting out a documentary film where Ron Paul's brother says that three people passed the Federal Reserve Act.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And then, like, legitimately, I wanted to do an entire episode about...
You can find this on YouTube if you want.
You can go listen to it.
There is an episode of Opie and Anthony where Patrice O 'Neill goes on and tries to tell them about the Obama deception.
It's an hour long, him talking about how great this movie is and shit.
I wanted to do an episode of our show where we're like...
This is the effect of a documentary like this.
You have a respected comic and someone who people think is a really brilliant guy like Patrice O'Neill.
jordan holmes
Or at least a brilliant comic.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
He's coming on to Opie and Anthony, a show that people like, a very popular show that isn't necessarily in that right-wing patriot world.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
And you have someone falling for the ideas that are put forth in the documentary.
dan friesen
At one point in the interview – or it's not an interview.
They're just sitting around.
But at one point in that appearance – Fucking Patrice starts talking about Nathan Rothschild and his thing at Waterloo.
So he's just regurgitating Nazi propaganda that he's heard from the likes of Alex Jones.
Maybe he watched Endgame also.
So he's just repeating these things unexamined.
And so, no.
The lie is very powerful.
The lie makes you a millionaire.
The truth is what we are doing.
And it's not working all that great.
It's working better than it has any business working because it's you and me doing it.
But we're not...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's still relatively the same ratio as the lie click count versus the retraction click count.
You know, whenever Fox News or somebody puts up something that's clearly bullshit, and then everybody calls them out on it, and they write the retraction.
dan friesen
Or when Alex apologizes to Hamdi Ulukaya.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
One is a lot, and one is not as much.
dan friesen
So, I mean, there's a lot of bullshit here.
Alex is going down a road that is very easy to explain why this is stupid, the draft narrative.
But it's still so much better than...
The last two weeks of my life.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So I'm thrilled to be listening to his show again.
I think this would be worth it just for that Don de Grand Prix moment.
jordan holmes
Dan, do you have an update on Don de Grand Prix?
dan friesen
Bad news.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
He's dead again.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
dan friesen
Came back?
jordan holmes
Well, listen, I think it's time to sign off then.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
I think that's one of the reasons this episode is a little shorter than maybe it would have been, is because this narrative is so flimsy.
It's so thin.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's nonsense.
dan friesen
And most of the show does end up being Alex just fake crying and yelling about the draft and stuff.
And like, well, no.
No, that's not this.
And then also our rhythm.
We had a week off.
I think I rushed through some stuff.
jordan holmes
I think we're getting back into it.
dan friesen
I know, but I think I rushed through some stuff.
I've taken some notes, some mental notes, about how we're supposed to do this show.
jordan holmes
All right, Jesus.
dan friesen
And we'll be back better than ever next time.
jordan holmes
Sounds like a plan.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes
What is that?
dan friesen
It's knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
I thought it was dondegrandpreeupdate.com.
dan friesen
No, but I'm going to buy that.
jordan holmes
I think that sounds like a great idea.
Still dead.
dan friesen
I'm going to also legally change my name to Don DeGrand Prix.
Don DeIndy500.
We also are on Twitter, Knowledge underscore Fight.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we're on Facebook.
You can join the group.
Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
It's one of our favorite things to do.
dan friesen
It's so great.
A lot of fun happening over there.
We're also on iTunes.
People can subscribe, leave a review, tell your friends.
jordan holmes
Snitch.
dan friesen
Snitch on the show.
I know that we say no snitching.
Nah, not this time.
unidentified
Fair.
dan friesen
Snitch all you want.
Tell people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it'd be nice.
dan friesen
Anyway.
Jordan, Don de Grand Prix.
I don't know.
Don't know about that.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, is Don de Grand Prix the guy?
dan friesen
He might have killed somebody.
jordan holmes
He might have killed somebody.
dan friesen
I think the way he presents himself, his autobiographical life story definitely does involve murder, so you've got to pump the brakes on him.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Paul Joseph Watson probably hasn't killed anybody.
And this is a rare appearance of him verbally being on the show.
unidentified
That's true.
That's crazy.
dan friesen
We've got to celebrate that by pointing out that he probably hasn't killed anybody.
Even though he has admitted that he did a bunch of drugs when he was younger, which...
alex jones
Alright.
dan friesen
Thumbs up, Paul Joseph Watson.
Probably hasn't killed anybody.
But his employer, Alex Jones, technically probably killed a dude.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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