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Nov. 23, 2018 - Knowledge Fight
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#230E: Obama Deception, Part 5

Today, Dan and Jordan finish up their look at Alex Jones' 2009 "documentary" The Obama Deception, and are lucky to make it out with their sanity mostly intact.

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alex jones
12:14
d
dan friesen
01:08:45
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jordan holmes
38:09
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george humphrey
01:57
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krs-one
01:09
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webster tarpley
03:51
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barack obama
00:28
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gerald celente
00:52
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I am Dan.
The voice you'll hear shortly is my co-host, Jordan.
And we're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
Ah, guys, today, finally, we come to the end of this adventure.
The thrilling conclusion, if you will, of our coverage of Alex Jones' 2009 quote-unquote documentary, The Obama Deception.
It has been a real whirlwind, guys.
It has been something.
I've seen a lot of hot bullshit, Alex making up quotes, or people he has on the documentary making up quotes.
We've seen Ron Paul's brother say incredibly ludicrous things.
We've seen every single actor in this documentary be unable to grasp what the actual nature of the Federal Reserve is.
It's just been atrocious as an outing on Alex's part.
Very embarrassing.
And it's good that we can finally put this in the ground, as it were, and end here with today's episode.
But before we get to that, I'd like to take a little moment to give a shout-out to a couple of new donors.
Very excited to welcome them aboard.
First of all, I'd like to say thank you so much, Nikki.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
Also, I'd like to say thank you to Paul.
Paul, you are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you so much for joining up and supporting the show.
If you're listening out there and you're thinking, hey, it's Black Friday, what do I got to, you know, as soon as that came out of my mouth, I felt ugly and disgusting about it.
Take that out of this.
Strike it from the record, if you will.
If you want to support the show, you can go to our website, knowledgefight.com, click that button that says support the show, and we would appreciate it.
Now, on to part five, the thrilling conclusion of the Obama deception.
If you guys were waiting for our podcast to get sloppy and kind of not on track, maybe?
I'm not sure.
If you were waiting for the point where we sort of lose it, I think you'll find it in this episode.
This is kind of, for some context, I believe...
When this was recorded, this is all over 11 hours into me and Jordan sitting around and talking about this documentary in one sitting.
So, of course, we were sort of losing our minds, and I think Jordan kind of checks out.
Pretty hard, which I can't blame him for.
I'm not sitting here judging.
It's a real dynamic of Jordan having checked out, in addition to being kind of angry at Alex, me realizing we just got to get through this and trying to make it to the finish line.
So that's the dynamic that's at play here.
But last we left off, Alex had made up another quote.
We were discussing that, and I made an attempt at a pun that fell entirely flat.
So let's get back into it.
Thank you all so much for listening.
We will see you next week after this for, you know, regularly scheduled podcasts.
All right.
jordan holmes
We have all been held within the jail cell of that ponytail for too long.
dan friesen
That jail, Estelin.
It wasn't a pun.
I blew it.
alex jones
Now that the bankers were holding the world hostage, they issued their ultimatum.
The only solution to restart the global economy would be to set up a planetary government ruled by a new bank of the world.
jordan holmes
And one last dance contest to save the rec center.
alex jones
Hundreds of prominent publications announced the solution.
dan friesen
Hundreds, but he's shown two.
alex jones
Yeah, well.
dan friesen
So these articles that he's popping up here, they don't say what he's saying that they say.
These are opinion articles where individuals have explored ideas about world governance and new banking systems.
These people, as in the case right here, you can see the byline, Justin Fox there.
He wrote for Time magazine.
They aren't announcing anything.
They're just writing about suggestions of ideas.
Also, fun fact, in May 2009, Justin Fox wrote an article published by Time about how everyone should listen to Peter Schiff, Alex's favorite Austrian school of economics guy.
That's not just my interpretation.
The article is literally titled, quote, Why We Should Listen to Peter Schiff's Bad News.
So Justin Fox, this guy who wrote this article that Alex is complaining about, he's working for the globalists to announce that there's a new world banking system happening.
And simultaneously publishing pieces about how everyone needs to listen to this fairly obscure economist who wants to destroy the things the globalists apparently use to make all their money.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes sense.
unidentified
This is fucking stupid.
dan friesen
It makes no sense.
jordan holmes
He contains...
Multitudes, Dan.
We are all poets on the inside.
dan friesen
Behind these articles, what Alex is saying is the plan is that they're talking about creating a new world bank, like a big world bank.
Hey, buddy, the world bank has existed since 1944.
You don't have to create a new world bank.
It's there.
jordan holmes
What is it called?
Is it called some sort of international monetary fund?
dan friesen
No, I mean, they're connected, but yeah, there's the World Bank and the IMF.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Who's going to make one?
alex jones
Time magazine, in an article titled The New World Orders...
dan friesen
This is the Justin Fox article.
alex jones
...would control the world's currencies and set interest rates, and that the new bank would, quote, knock the heads of bad countries like the United States.
dan friesen
So, I've paused it here so you can see a little bit of the text, but also, like he said, knock the fucking heads.
The quote Alex is referring to from this article doesn't say that the bank should knock U.S.'s head.
It says, quote, Justin Fox...
He isn't saying there should be a new, bigger IMF.
He's just expressing that some people feel that there should be, and in his article explains why.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That's all that's going on here.
jordan holmes
Well, no, I mean, the continuing questions from what I can read, should capital flows be restricted?
Should there be limits on trade deficits and surpluses?
Should the IMF be able to order around even the U.S.?
If the answer to any of these questions is yes, Global capitalism will have entered a new and dramatically less freewheeling era, which is essentially that guy saying, like, if this happens, holy fuck!
dan friesen
It doesn't seem like that's a positive resolution to the article.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, he's not.
dan friesen
And also, you're reading from the screen.
This is what Alex shows during the documentary.
jordan holmes
I'm not going off of, like, I Googled it and now I'm reading my own.
Yeah, yeah.
This is on his own fucking documentary.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
This dude is essentially writing, like, if any of this situation is so terrible that...
We have to then give so much power to the IMF.
Then that is dramatically changed.
dan friesen
Or create a bigger IMF.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Then that has changed and altered the balance of power irrevocably forever.
dan friesen
Yep.
That's a big part of what he's saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Which he's not implying is a good thing.
dan friesen
No.
And he's not advocating for it.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Alex just doesn't know how to read.
alex jones
At a meeting of central bank heads and finance ministers dubbed Bretton Woods 2, the plan for world government was unveiled by the very bankers that had engineered the collapse.
Formerly sovereign countries would now pay their taxes directly to the banking cartel.
Hundreds of new carbon taxes controlling every facet of human activity would only be the beginning.
jordan holmes
So, God, we're getting into...
dan friesen
Bretton Woods 2. So do you know about Bretton Woods, the agreement that was made?
It wasn't about creating a world government.
It was about the world's economy becoming more interconnected in the 1940s and the international realization that they needed to make sure that there was more mechanisms in place so that countries could cooperate.
And they needed to make sure that different countries' currencies could be traded with simplicity.
So they created an exchange.
They created a way that they could trade currencies easily.
Because that is very important for international trade.
At Bretton Woods, the participating countries agreed to base their currency, their value of the currency on gold.
But the U.S. insisted that the dollar should also be a reserve currency.
Not too surprisingly, seeing as the U.S. was the biggest power in the world and we're one of the only countries not completely devastated economically by World War II, this was in the 1940s, we got our way.
When Nixon took the U.S. off the gold standard in 1971, he effectively made the dollar the default international reserve currency based on the Bretton Woods system because gold was no longer part of the way we measured our currency.
Bretton Woods, too, was a meeting of international economies expressing concern about the world financial system, particularly that little thing.
Where any time the U.S. has economic trouble, the trouble ripples through every country's economy because the world's reserve currency fluctuates along with ours.
jordan holmes
And that's a good thing, right?
dan friesen
Many of the countries...
jordan holmes
Isn't that what the...
dan friesen
Many of these countries weren't looking to start up a new world bank or a one-world currency.
They were more interested in protecting themselves from us.
Particularly after our...
jordan holmes
Why would you want to protect yourselves from America?
We're doing good, Dan!
dan friesen
We're doing great.
jordan holmes
We're bringing democracy and shit!
dan friesen
I mean, after our shoddy record in 2008 of what we did to the world with the mismanagement, I mean, it wasn't all of us, but we played a big role in it.
The mismanagement that led to our...
jordan holmes
It was a team effort amongst billionaires and bankers, Dan.
dan friesen
Sure, but that...
There was a lot of innocent bystanders in it.
That's what Bretton Woods, too, was mostly about.
It was about the idea that people wanted to disconnect from our economy, not that they wanted to create a one-world government without us.
There's one argument Alex could conceivably use to make his globalist argument, and that is that other than the dollar, probably the only realistic other currency they could use was the euro.
So he could say that they were trying to shift to the euro.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And there's a place for that argument.
It's dumb.
But it's mostly about getting away from us.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, there is one good thing to be said about Trump being president.
Which is that finally the rest of the world has taken the advice that I gave them ten years ago, which is do not trust America at all, ever.
If you go into any negotiations with America, be like, I think you're going to lie to me no matter what.
And now everybody knows we are.
It's nice.
dan friesen
Fare thee well.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I tip my cap to you.
Good luck.
Rest of the world.
I'll be there soon.
I'll be in France.
jordan holmes
It's like any history book where you read the phrase, and then the white man came, and you're like, ooh, this is like the beginning of a horror movie.
Like, now that we have Trump in office, everybody knows.
dan friesen
On the global scale, the white man just came.
jordan holmes
The white man is...
Oh, man.
Avoid it.
Avoid it.
Don't let him in.
dan friesen
I want to go to France.
Anyway, it's not going to help, but...
jordan holmes
What, going to France?
No, Macron's pretty bad, too.
dan friesen
I don't give a shit about Macron.
I just want to go to France.
jordan holmes
I thought we were moving to Easter Island.
dan friesen
I don't know if there's much for me there.
unidentified
Nah.
alex jones
Now all the elite had to do was to sell the public on accepting the final phase of their takeover.
And it's Obama's job to sucker the public into standing down so the banker's agenda can move forward unhindered.
jordan holmes
That is some serious Obama right there.
alex jones
Has the media gotten behind a president like they are behind Obama?
The press has pulled out all the stops.
unidentified
Yeah, but come on!
jordan holmes
Give him some credit!
He was fucking great, man!
He was fucking great!
dan friesen
But also, I know that this is also post-factual.
It's after when he made this documentary, but like...
You could make that same argument about Trump.
Granted, a lot of the media was presumably negative, but they gave him as much attention and as much play.
jordan holmes
What's the study on how much free advertisement he got?
Billions upon billions of dollars that he got for free.
dan friesen
But it might just be a thing where Alex is sort of recognizing a trend.
That started with Obama, in terms of the media oversaturating.
It might be a thing where he's accurately pointing that the media is doing too much here, but not recognizing that it's not because it's Obama.
That is now what they do with politics.
jordan holmes
Here is what I will give him.
In this shot right here, it is way too on the nose.
This shot shouldn't exist.
It's the seal of the President of the United States that looks like a fresco of him with Jesus' halo.
Look, I loved Obama the candidate so much.
He was so great.
dan friesen
If I was one of his handlers, I would not allow that angle.
jordan holmes
I would have murdered anybody who made that picture.
I was like, no, no, no!
Two on the nose!
dan friesen
I would have tackled the cameraman or knocked that seal down.
jordan holmes
Yeah, for sure.
dan friesen
It's way too easy to explain.
alex jones
Bestowing a crown of infallibility upon Obama as the savior of the people, the elite are betting everything they've got on Obama's charisma and hoping that he can sell the world on their program of tyranny.
unidentified
Yes, there have been differences between America and Europe.
No doubt there will be differences in the future.
But the burdens of global citizenship continue to bind us together.
A change of leadership in Washington will not lift this burden.
In this new century, Americans and Europeans alike will be required to do more, not less.
Partnership and cooperation among nations is not a choice.
It is the only way.
dan friesen
What the fuck is he playing that, making it evil?
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I don't understand why you would play that.
dan friesen
I don't get what's like, isn't that scary?
That makes a lot of sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, and not least of which that all of those speeches are even more specifically like, if you go back and read those, they're more a rebuke to us, the people who voted for Obama, than anybody else.
Where it's like, all of his speeches are, we need to come together.
We need to do this together.
All of you need to participate.
Every one of you needs to be a part of this.
Please don't just expect me to do this.
And we were all like, eh, we voted for you.
You got this.
dan friesen
We did our part.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you got this under control.
Come on, man.
Like, he presaged his own failure in a certain extent.
dan friesen
But again, like, this is another example of, like, Alex is playing these tiny clips of Obama's speeches.
unidentified
God, he's so good.
dan friesen
That are, like, I noticed it where we were both silently watching that speech.
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Incredible.
dan friesen
Great.
But also, if you watch the entire speech, it's also fucking great throughout.
jordan holmes
He's so good.
dan friesen
It's not some sort...
I know that Alex's argument would probably be like, he has hypnotic powers and you guys are just falling for it.
It's not that.
It's a great orator.
It's just someone who makes points and says things that are uplifting.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Now, whether...
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
Whether when he is involved in government, he's able to...
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, no.
I want...
dan friesen
Doesn't take anything away from the speeches.
Doesn't take anything away from what you feel when you hear it.
jordan holmes
I wish I had Elizabeth Warren in Barack Obama's body.
dan friesen
But I bet she would be just as ineffective.
I bet she would try really hard, but also probably get stymied in many ways.
jordan holmes
Again, but that's why the first two years of Obama's presidency are going to be the linchpin of history.
That's what we're going to see over and over and over again.
dan friesen
That's your Gerald Salentian prediction.
jordan holmes
No!
Prediction?
dan friesen
I've coined Gerald Salentian as an adjective, by the way.
jordan holmes
No, the one stretch of time where a truly progressive agenda could have been run roughshod over the shit of America.
And it was destroyed.
And ultimately, by losing those first two years, we lost everything.
dan friesen
And at the time, it seemed like the right thing to do, and in hindsight, it probably wasn't.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
No, it seemed like the right thing to do because we thought we were ready for a black president, and now we know we were absolutely not ready for a black president.
dan friesen
And we thought we were dealing with rational people, and it turns out we weren't.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, remember when you used to think your neighbors were rational?
dan friesen
My neighbors are great.
unidentified
We've got to give them a stake in creating the kind of world order that I think all of us would like to see.
dan friesen
That's not scary either.
alex jones
Obama is not simply continuing George W. Bush's policies.
He is radically expanding them.
dan friesen
Okay.
barack obama
I thank President Bush for his service to our nation.
jordan holmes
Kill him!
Oh, sorry.
Sorry, I apologize for that.
That was just in my lizard brain.
dan friesen
I understand that, but that's also a classy move on his part.
jordan holmes
So classy.
dan friesen
In the same way that Bush is saying, like, I don't think Obama will be the kind of petty person to complain about the burdens of office.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Obama, when he's being...
Handed the presidency, thanking Bush for his service doesn't mean that he endorses Bush's policies.
It just means, like, what do you want him to do?
Pull out, like, his dick and piss on him?
Like, what would be appropriate?
Like, snubbing him?
Can you imagine?
jordan holmes
Like, on a karmic level?
Pulling out his dick and peeing on him actually would be fine.
dan friesen
Can you imagine what the blogs would do if Obama, the first black president of all time...
jordan holmes
He hasn't even become president!
He's already got the Obama deception made about him!
He could pee on anybody and be the same!
dan friesen
Can you imagine the scandal that would come from the first black president of all time in the United States is rude to his predecessor.
Every other president was very nice to all the others.
Yes, I can.
alex jones
Trump literally peed on people!
dan friesen
Also, by the way, this documentary hasn't demonstrated anything.
alex jones
No.
But Barack Obama and his controller's true agenda is...
jordan holmes
Holy shit!
We're an hour and 45 minutes into this and you're finally going to reveal what the fuck the point is?
dan friesen
This is the endgame of this documentary.
unidentified
Nice.
dan friesen
We are coming into the homestretch now.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a little bit extended, isn't it?
A homestretch.
But now we come to Alex trying to make his...
It's going to be his fucking thesis.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's a 10-part thesis.
Well, you open with a thesis.
dan friesen
It's a ten-part thesis.
jordan holmes
As a general mission statement.
And then you spend your time proving it.
And then you submit your thesis.
Never mind.
dan friesen
He didn't go to college.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
He went to community college.
dan friesen
It's not college.
jordan holmes
Was never called upon to commit any thesis.
dan friesen
Probably didn't write any papers.
Yeah.
But he's going to try and make his points.
And these are shit.
I'll say this ahead of time.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex.
Good luck.
alex jones
Number one, bring the United States under the complete regulatory control of a private offshore superbank known as the Bank of the World.
More than 100 new taxes are now being developed under the umbrella of curbing greenhouse gases.
The new taxes will be paid directly to the private bank consortium.
At the producer level, taxes will be paid on farm animals' flatulence.
At the consumer level, there will be carbon taxes on all forms of meat, beef, poultry, pork, and fish.
jordan holmes
It's important to note that within that B-roll, there was a stretch where he was zeroing in on certain parts of articles.
But then, for no reason, he just zeroed in on a cow's udders.
There was just B-roll of a cow, and then all of a sudden, for no reason, it was just like, What if we zoomed in on the udders?
That's what they're really trying to tax.
dan friesen
I think a couple times you've pointed out this is a poorly edited documentary.
jordan holmes
This is a poorly edited documentary.
dan friesen
So his first thesis of the big plans the globalists have for Obama is to bring the U.S. into a new super world bank.
That's the underlying premise.
That's the first.
jordan holmes
The whole time.
dan friesen
I'll judge this as it didn't happen, nor did they ever really try to make this happen.
Alex is just making this up by misreading that Newsweek article that he flashed up on screen.
I'll say this is mission failed, globalists.
Number one, no.
Didn't make this happen.
jordan holmes
Ooh, are we keeping a tally now?
All right.
0 for 1. So we're 0 for 1 on globalist missions.
I'm going to put an X down.
I'll put a check mark when the globalists succeed.
dan friesen
And also, all these articles he keeps posting or putting up on screen here about these taxes are based on suggestions people have had.
Not really on anything that's ever gone through.
Like, none of these are real taxes, but Alex is acting like there's already a plan to put in place a laundry tax in America.
jordan holmes
And even then, so many of these taxes are like opinion journalists or opinion columnists.
dan friesen
That's all he does.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
But I mean, not even like somebody who works for the administration.
dan friesen
Or a press release of Obama announces laundry tax.
That's a source I would take.
Not somebody saying, hey, laundry is hurting the environment.
We should tax laundry.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
That's what it seems like.
dan friesen
I got nothing on that.
I got nothing on that.
jordan holmes
It seems like Connor Friedersdorf decided to say some bullshit and Alex was like, hey, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
dan friesen
If someone wants to write that...
jordan holmes
Also, Connor Friedersdorf can go fucking set as well.
dan friesen
I agree.
Sure.
But if someone wants to write that and someone wants to print it, that's all it takes.
It doesn't mean that it's government policy.
It doesn't mean anyone's taking it seriously.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But Alex acts like it is.
He acts like all these suggestions that people have made somehow are miraculously going to be your new oppression.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's just nonsense.
alex jones
All cars will be fitted with satellite tracking boxes that will tax driving by the miles.
dan friesen
Same thing here.
alex jones
And an added tax will be placed on all fossil fuels, including motor oil and natural gas.
All plastic products will have a carbon tax added.
jordan holmes
Ooh, back tax!
That one counts.
I'm going to count that one for Chicago.
We got seven cents, baby.
dan friesen
Hey, that is not a federal tax.
unidentified
Checkmark.
jordan holmes
Checkmark!
dan friesen
No, because that's not a federal tax.
jordan holmes
Seven cents, everybody pays it.
That's a city tax.
Everybody pays it, right?
dan friesen
Alex shouldn't give a shit.
That's a local tax.
jordan holmes
No, Chicago, everybody pays it.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It's not?
dan friesen
He only cares about federal taxes.
jordan holmes
All right, well then I'll turn it into a fucking X then.
dan friesen
In the same way.
This is number two, by the way.
This is still part of number one.
jordan holmes
Wait, this is still part of number one?
dan friesen
This is still part of the global superbank argument that he's making.
jordan holmes
Hurry it up!
dan friesen
But the other thing, too, about carbon taxes and stuff like that, that doesn't exist on a federal level, but it does exist in California.
Is there a right to do that?
That's a state...
jordan holmes
States' rights?
dan friesen
Yeah.
In the same way the bag tax, that's local.
jordan holmes
States are not allowed to have bag taxes.
They are allowed to continue to have slavery.
That's the only thing I know about states' rights, Dan.
dan friesen
It seems like that's where he wants to...
jordan holmes
The only thing I know about states' rights.
dan friesen
That's the hill he wants to die on.
jordan holmes
No gays!
No taxes.
If you have taxes, that's wrong.
dan friesen
I mean, because cool, because all the stuff he's talking about is not at all federal taxes.
But there are examples of them on state or local levels, which you shouldn't complain about.
jordan holmes
State's rights are wrong.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Until they're right.
dan friesen
Until it's not what I agree with.
jordan holmes
If you discriminate your state's rights, if you don't pull the federal government overreach.
dan friesen
Also, by the way, this one is about the European Union.
jordan holmes
Euro MPs back patio heaters ban.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
I don't know what that has to do with us.
jordan holmes
A patio heaters, man!
dan friesen
In the UK.
I don't know what that has to do with us.
alex jones
Are to be taxed.
All electricity produced by coal-powered plants will be taxed.
Gotta bring them coal jobs back.
Citizens will be forced to pay taxes.
dan friesen
No, they won't.
alex jones
Thousands of products.
The private cap-and-trade services owned by Al Gore and other elitists.
There will be taxes on light bulbs.
Water.
Trash pickup.
jordan holmes
Hold on one second.
dan friesen
There's already taxes on light bulbs if you buy them from the store.
jordan holmes
Hold on one second.
Before we go any further.
All of these examples.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Right.
Light bulbs.
Trash pickup.
dan friesen
Hey, Jordan, I don't know if you noticed this, but I bought light bulbs because my lights were out.
jordan holmes
I assume you didn't have to pay any tax on that because we don't live in a tyranny.
dan friesen
It was $9.99 before taxes.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
A little more than that after when I paid for it.
So I assume it was a tax.
unidentified
Obama!
dan friesen
Maybe Walgreens was scamming me.
Could have been a central bank Walgreens scam.
jordan holmes
Now, here's my biggest issue.
dan friesen
All right.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
For all these examples.
And these are played out in scare text over the globe as an apple?
Is there an explanation for why the globe is an apple while, like, light bulbs, trash pickup, fireplace text, which, sure, fine.
I don't care if you have a fireplace text.
Coal-based electric text, sure, fine.
I don't understand why the earth is an apple in this thing.
dan friesen
Trash pickup, if it's a private service that does it, there's going to be a tax on that.
jordan holmes
There should be a tax on it if it's a public service.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, most of the time, your landlord will take care of it.
I mean, we're renters and stuff like that.
Most people are renters in Chicago that I know, and your building generally takes care of it.
But your landlord is taxed.
There's a tax on services and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
No, that makes sense.
dan friesen
None of this is really...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
How can you be...
Look, there's no way...
I get it.
dan friesen
I get it.
jordan holmes
People hate taxes.
People hate taxes.
dan friesen
I understand.
jordan holmes
But you want your trash picked up.
You don't want to pay an individual 30 bucks to get your trash picked up.
So everybody pays a little bit for everybody's trash.
dan friesen
There's going to be more examples of other things that already are taxes.
jordan holmes
God, I'm so furious.
alex jones
This is dumb.
dan friesen
Train travel.
jordan holmes
Train travel!
alex jones
Medicine, steel production, mining, clothing, laundry, asphalt are just a few of the new taxes to be levied.
jordan holmes
Those are all taxes already levied.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it depends on what you're doing with them.
Like, if you're buying clothes, yeah.
There's a tax on buying clothes.
If you're producing clothes on a mass level and there's some sort of tax, I don't fucking understand what he's going to say.
jordan holmes
Does Texas not have like a sales tax?
Is that like Florida or some shit like that?
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
I'm not sure what he's mad about, but if it's that, then I still don't care.
jordan holmes
It's that they're going to use those taxes to build that fucking road, man.
unidentified
To protect our security.
jordan holmes
That goddamn road.
unidentified
From the ravages of climate change.
barack obama
We need to ultimately make clean, renewable energy the profitable kind of energy.
So I ask this Congress to send me legislation that places a market-based cap on carbon pollution and drives the production of more renewable energy in America.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
I'm not here to defend anybody's position other than do something.
But Obama right there is talking about...
jordan holmes
50% of America agrees that you should do something.
dan friesen
56% says it's the wrong idea.
jordan holmes
The wrong idea.
dan friesen
Obama right there isn't talking about carbon taxes, which is what Alex was talking about before this.
He's talking about cap-and-trade, which isn't a tax.
It's a system where carbon emissions are capped at a certain level.
And if a business wants to emit more than their allotted amount, no.
They're not taxed.
jordan holmes
Taxed.
dan friesen
They can buy those emission units from another company that doesn't think that they're going to hit their cap.
jordan holmes
Who are you, Al Gore?
dan friesen
It's not a perfect system.
unidentified
Tax.
dan friesen
And it creates a commodity that can be fucked with.
jordan holmes
Tax.
dan friesen
It could hurt climate progress, all that stuff.
jordan holmes
You're taxing me with your words.
dan friesen
It's not a tax.
It's a system that could be, like, cap and trade doesn't affect non-consumers.
Consumers don't get affected by that at all.
It only involves people who run these businesses that pollute.
jordan holmes
If there is a carbon tax, carbon emissions go down.
dan friesen
There's another...
jordan holmes
That's proven everywhere it's been introduced.
dan friesen
No, I know.
I understand that.
jordan holmes
So, fuck off.
dan friesen
I understand that.
jordan holmes
Everyone, not everywhere.
dan friesen
No, I understand that.
I think that cap-and-trade and a carbon tax can be used hand-in-hand.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I think that you can do that, and possibly cap-and-trade could be a good way to put the toe in the water in some ways, where people would be really reluctant to be like, credits.
jordan holmes
I mean, hold on.
It's too late for that, so let's not worry about it.
dan friesen
Just because anything feels like it's too late doesn't mean you shouldn't do something.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, I'm fine with that.
dan friesen
I know.
I know.
I'm not saying you're not.
unidentified
It's okay.
jordan holmes
I'll protect you during the war for water.
dan friesen
No, you won't.
You'll be running the other fucking way.
jordan holmes
I will not run the other way.
When have I ever run the other way with you?
dan friesen
I mean, we've never had a war for water, so...
jordan holmes
Yeah, but how many other crises have we had to deal with?
dan friesen
None.
jordan holmes
And I've been fucking here for you.
Every one of them.
dan friesen
Every zero of them.
Yes, absolutely.
Look, I'm not saying you're a coward.
I'm not saying that.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to donate to the show any longer.
dan friesen
What I'm saying is that I think that obviously carbon taxes are the most effective way that we have in terms of the pantheon of sort of normal suggestions of things to do.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But also cabin trade is a really reasonable middle ground that does help.
And more people might be more able to accept it.
I'm not saying it's the best way to go.
I'm not saying it's a perfect system, and it also creates a commodity out of the carbon units.
jordan holmes
And nobody is buying my plan to recreate Avalanche with Barrett and Cloud and Eufy and take down the Shinra Corporation.
Everybody here who is listening.
dan friesen
Everyone here.
jordan holmes
Everyone here knows how great a Final Fantasy VII reference that was.
unidentified
So fuck off.
webster tarpley
The notion of anthropogenic global warming is a fraud.
In other words, the idea that the planet is getting warmer and that human activity is somehow responsible is a pseudoscientific fraud.
jordan holmes
How's your boy mustacheless Wilford Brimley doing now, Dan?
dan friesen
I want to be clear, he's not my boy.
I think I'm fascinated by him because of how unable I am to pinpoint him in exactly the weird world.
jordan holmes
Somehow he's a climate denier as well?
dan friesen
I know, which is weird.
It's not weird.
It falls in line with a lot of the other characterizations that I have of him.
But his Trump dissent and his still being on Genesis Communications Network...
It's too much for me to understand.
jordan holmes
I don't understand it.
I don't know what's up with this dude.
dan friesen
When there are people who have a certain amount of characteristics, I'm able to pinpoint them.
With Webster Charpley, if I didn't know that in 2016, early 2016, he was saying Trump is a fascist, go fuck this guy, all that kind of stuff, and libertarian is a fraud, and Ron Paul is a fucking asshole for leading everyone down this road.
Before that, I would see him and I'd hear him talk about mischaracterizations of Carol Quigley's books.
And I'd be like, I know what you're up to.
And I'd have him pegged.
I'd be like, okay, that's the world you're in.
But then you bring that in like, I don't know what to do with you.
You are now a rogue variable.
jordan holmes
So he's for sure still alive.
dan friesen
Yes.
The climate denial stuff goes straight along with the libertarian stuff.
Not the denial of libertarian stuff.
jordan holmes
It's a conspiracy and so on and so forth.
dan friesen
That side of stuff, it's very easy to compartmentalize that into...
That world that was very heavily funded by coke interests.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Big tobacco, that sort of thing.
So, like, it makes, like, that, if Alex, if someone in Alex Jones' world is a climate denier, I'm like, oh, right.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's, yeah.
dan friesen
It's just an anomaly because of that.
Theory.
jordan holmes
Perhaps, no.
Pitch.
Where is he right now?
dan friesen
Like, right now?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I actually did.
I did find an old phone number for him, but I don't think it still works.
jordan holmes
Do you remember the practice of trepanning?
dan friesen
Wait, isn't that bleeding?
No.
jordan holmes
So we knock a little hole in his skull.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And you and I put some straws in there, and we drink his brain, and we gain his powers.
dan friesen
I don't think he'd agree to that.
jordan holmes
What do you think we find?
dan friesen
I don't think he'd agree to that.
jordan holmes
No, he's going to give us his consent.
Look at who he is now.
What is left for him but to become part of something greater?
Which is that our show gains his knowledge.
dan friesen
Tarpley, if you're listening.
jordan holmes
Tarpley, we will eat your brains.
dan friesen
We have an idea.
I know that we just said we were going to eat your brains.
Don't listen to that.
unidentified
No, don't worry about it.
dan friesen
We were just goofing.
jordan holmes
Come here.
dan friesen
We were just goofing.
jordan holmes
And then turn around.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
We're just goofing.
We're just goofing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But put this bandana around your eyes.
dan friesen
Oh, don't listen to Jordan.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
He's fucking around.
He has a good sense of humor.
All right, all right, all right.
Just send us an email.
If you're listening...
None of this stuff is gonna happen.
It's not like we're gonna put a bandana on you and eat your brains.
Nothing like that's gonna happen.
Just send us an email.
We're curious about you.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And if you're not comfortable, we'll put a palaclava on there.
That covers your head.
There's no way we can put a straw through there.
webster tarpley
They had race science.
Race hygiene.
They said Aryan...
Oh, goddammit.
jordan holmes
This is where we went?
There's Holocaust footage now?
webster tarpley
Pretty quick.
Today, we've got something similar.
Global warming caused by human activity.
And the answer to that is carbon tax plus cap and trade, according to the wishes of Al Gore, Prince Charles, and basically the entire world banking community.
dan friesen
That's a pretty big leap.
I would say that in the world of Nazi leaps, that's impressive.
The idea is like, the Nazis had race eugenics and we have climate change.
What?
jordan holmes
Hold on.
Before we go any further, the article up right now is from...
dan friesen
Put carbon tax on babies!
jordan holmes
Colon academic.
dan friesen
Good.
jordan holmes
Great work.
dan friesen
Clearly...
jordan holmes
Can we get three more subtitles on this article?
dan friesen
Clearly a hot article, which was...
jordan holmes
Please, Barbara Miller.
dan friesen
...about a year and a half old by the time this documentary came out.
webster tarpley
What they're trying to do with that is to perpetuate...
The current system where bankers ruled the world, financiers ruled the world, and the rest of us get the money from the table.
Ah, you missed it.
jordan holmes
I thought it was that we all wanted water later on in life?
I guess we were wrong.
webster tarpley
The idea that you're going to save the polar bears.
dan friesen
That's not why.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, I forgot about that telegraph article.
webster tarpley
You're going to cause genocide on a massive scale.
The deaths will be measured in the hundreds of millions and indeed in the billions.
Just the idea of global warming means that there'll be no development for Africa, no development for the poorer parts of Southeast Asia, and no more economic recovery of any kind ever in our entire lifetime.
dan friesen
Jackoffmotion.gif.
jordan holmes
It's so...
It's so inspiring how much he cares about Africa right now.
dan friesen
So much.
jordan holmes
He cares so much about Africa.
Like, specifically now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's amazing.
dan friesen
It's nuts.
webster tarpley
It's important to expose and fight the pseudoscientific fraud of global warming.
One more point about this.
You don't need a climatologist to know...
unidentified
You do.
jordan holmes
I really wish you did.
webster tarpley
I'm a historian.
I can tell you, in the last thousand years, we had a period of very warm temperatures called the medieval warm period.
jordan holmes
I really wish you weren't allowed to continue talking.
webster tarpley
Look at this chart.
That was about 1100, 1200.
unidentified
Hold on.
Pause this.
jordan holmes
Pause this dumb fucking chart.
dan friesen
There's a chart.
jordan holmes
Pause this dumb fucking chart.
dan friesen
There's a chart.
What?
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
What's your problem with the chart?
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
So let's explain our X, Y axis here, Dan.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Calendar years BP.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What does that mean?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Carbon-14 molecules, I assume, there on the other side.
jordan holmes
So what does that mean?
dan friesen
Calendar years before Prometheus.
jordan holmes
Now, if we're going to go by his bullshit right here, we have between 700 and 950 as his medieval maximum, which is what he's describing as a historian.
dan friesen
Well, he's a medieval history historian from the Catholic University of America.
jordan holmes
Right.
So if I understand this graph correctly, what he is saying is that the climate exists from...
Zero AD to 1100 AD.
dan friesen
It does seem like that is what the graph is.
Because, I mean, it's not specified any better than that.
Yeah, I would say that.
I think that that's a limited sample size.
I think it's intentionally so.
jordan holmes
So if we're going to go with the...
Does he know dinosaurs were real?
I really need that question answered right now, before we go any further.
Does he know dinosaurs are real?
Or not like a test that God gave us to question his face?
dan friesen
Can I level with you?
jordan holmes
Does he know dinosaurs are real?
dan friesen
Can I level with you?
jordan holmes
Dan, does he know dinosaurs are real?
You tell me right goddamn now.
dan friesen
It's not something that came up in this documentary, so I can't say for sure.
jordan holmes
Goddamn it, because it sure as fuck looks like he doesn't.
webster tarpley
An all-time maximum.
Of sunspots.
Right now, we can say that...
jordan holmes
As a historian, I know about sunspots.
webster tarpley
There'll be some warming, but we're well within the limits of the medieval warm period.
About 1600 to 1650, there was an ice age in northern Europe.
The North Sea was filled with ice.
dan friesen
Not filled with ice.
webster tarpley
That corresponds to an all-time minimum of ice.
Shut the fuck up!
You fucking idiot!
Pass.
Hard pass.
Not just the Earth are warming slightly as a result of increased solar activity.
But we're well within the minimum.
So what the oligarchs claim to be an open and shut scientific case is a piece of pseudoscientific nonsense, and it should be rejected.
dan friesen
No, that's not true at all.
But it is someone who...
It's what someone who is being paid by a special interest group would probably say.
jordan holmes
Dan, you have had me dancing on the fence about our boy Webster Tarpley for such a long time.
But that stretch has definitively proven to me that Webster Tarpley can take his head, twist it around, stick it up his own ass, and then have it thrown into the fucking sun, which he knows so fucking much about, Dan.
dan friesen
There's a lot of spots on it.
I understand that, and I agree.
Like, he's advocating something that is complete horse shit.
jordan holmes
What a fucking moron.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
What a fucking moron.
That's the dumbest shit you could say.
dan friesen
You don't need a climatologist to tell you this stuff, because I'm a historian.
And I'll also say, I think over the course of this law...
jordan holmes
We've got to figure out the whole Fulbright scholarship thing and recalibrate it so, like, retroactively, his money is taken away.
dan friesen
I think he might have known a guy.
Anyway, but, like, I think that over the course of this podcast...
A lot of the stuff we've talked about have shown that he's not a great historian.
He probably has some misplaced ideas about history.
jordan holmes
Misplaced ideas is a very nice way of putting it.
dan friesen
I'm trying to be diplomatic.
jordan holmes
That is very diplomatic, and I appreciate that.
dan friesen
I also want to talk to him eventually, so I don't want to burn this bridge.
unidentified
I hope he dies.
dan friesen
I probably shouldn't say now, because he kind of gives up the game a little bit.
jordan holmes
No, I hope he dies.
dan friesen
I'd really like to know why he's still on Genesis.
I really wish he died.
But I want to know those things.
No, I get it.
But when he's saying...
You don't need a climatologist.
I'm a historian.
I know these things.
I have problems with your credit as a historian, so I also don't take that as very seriously.
And then even beyond that, I reject your premise.
You do need a climatologist.
You do need it, because it's very subtle.
A lot of the stuff he's trying to talk about, and he's talking about it in blunt terms.
It's fucking bullshit.
It's nonsense.
So anyway, I reject this premise, and we will move on.
jordan holmes
You don't need a climatologist, Dan.
alex jones
Number two.
The social engineers are fully aware that the Obama craze will wear off quickly.
So they are racing to put in place the most oppressive police state control grid in human history.
dan friesen
So that's number two.
Get on your horse, buddy.
You're keeping track of the ten tenets of what Obama's supposed to do.
jordan holmes
No, I'm just hitting myself in the face with the microphone now.
dan friesen
So they're racing.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm doing.
dan friesen
They're racing.
jordan holmes
I'm just hitting my face with the microphone.
dan friesen
No, it's important that you keep track of the 10. Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
I'm writing X now.
dan friesen
They're racing.
jordan holmes
Right now I see X. I see three X's and I understand nothing but Vin Diesel is my god.
dan friesen
Because we don't live in a police state now, so mission failed, globalists.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
So, anyway, in that article that Alex flashed up, it said that Obama's approval rating dropped 15 points, but Alex doesn't mention that it dropped 15 points and ended up at 68% as an approval rating.
That's not an indication that Obama did anything wrong in his first week in office.
jordan holmes
That's an indication that racists were like...
Well, we don't want to say it yet.
dan friesen
Yeah, you bet.
It was an indication.
jordan holmes
We're all really excited that a black guy can become president.
He's president now?
Fuck that guy.
dan friesen
It's an indication that 15% of the people in the last poll were fucking lying when they said they approved of Obama.
An 83% approval rating is unsustainable.
Or an indication that the last poll wasn't well done.
Something like that.
I don't know.
For context, Trump in his entire presidency so far hasn't topped out over 48% as an approval rating.
And that was six days into...
Especially him being in office.
jordan holmes
Which is insane that it was ever that high.
dan friesen
He spent most of his time in the low 40s, high 30s.
jordan holmes
Which is insane that he's ever been that high.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's an indictment of America that he isn't in the tent.
alex jones
Regular army troops are now being deployed to patrol the streets of the United States.
dan friesen
Not exactly.
alex jones
FEMA is now building giant camps in every region of the country.
dan friesen
That's just a prison.
gerald celente
Hi, FEMA!
alex jones
And the Congress has introduced bills.
Like the National Emergency Centers Act, H.R. 645, which merges local governments and the police under federal control.
dan friesen
H.R. 645, we talked about this on the podcast, it died in committee and wasn't made into law.
Also, it didn't merge local government and police, and I'm also not entirely sure what that means.
gerald celente
And as we all know...
jordan holmes
Wait, aren't police part of local governments?
gerald celente
They're ready for the riots.
With these detention centers that are being opened up around the country, with state police training for riot control in the event of economic calamity and food riots, they know what's going on and they're prepared for it.
jordan holmes
Hold on.
Pause this right now.
If you are watching with us...
It is one hour, 29 minutes, and 34 seconds into this documentary.
dan friesen
Nice timestamp, baby.
jordan holmes
And Gerald Salenti looks so much like a ballet instructor out of time.
dan friesen
He has a scarf there.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
He honestly also looks more tired than us, which is crazy at this point.
jordan holmes
Considering where we're at?
Yeah.
It's pretty nuts.
Oh, my God.
If he told me to do a plie right now, I would fucking do it.
dan friesen
Spell it.
jordan holmes
Spell it.
Point.
Insane.
I could not be happier with the way...
So...
I...
Oh, man.
And he's got the little hairtails over his ears like he's balding on top.
He's got the scarf.
dan friesen
Those aren't hairtails.
jordan holmes
He's wearing a turtleneck and a black coat.
God damn it.
This man...
dan friesen
Which you didn't realize...
jordan holmes
No, this man has put on the greatest...
A Nutcracker production that New York City has ever seen off-Broadway in Brooklyn for three years running.
dan friesen
I hate to always make comedy references and stuff like this.
I think he's aged out of the role by this point, but right there, he could play Don DeMello, theatrical director.
Oh, absolutely.
jordan holmes
Bring out the girls.
dan friesen
Not that he embodies that spirit.
jordan holmes
Not Andy Daly's Don DeMello.
dan friesen
But physically, if Andy was to coach him, maybe he could...
The book, the scarf, it's all there.
jordan holmes
I think we're going to have something for the daddies out there.
gerald celente
People better also prepare for it themselves.
Anyone that's not prepared for what's going to happen, they deserve what they get.
dan friesen
That's not nice.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
That's not a philosophy for life.
gerald celente
All precautionary actions.
dan friesen
No, also, I want to say this really quick.
I don't have a clip of it, but it keeps happening.
I'm listening to these old 2009 episodes, and they have this eFoods Direct as a sponsor.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And one of their commercials they keep playing that just fucking freaks me out every time I hear it is like, hey.
If you believe that there should be gun control, we don't want you to buy our food.
Because in an emergency, the implication is you should die in an emergency.
We want everyone to be able to prepare, but if you're into liberal politics, don't buy our food.
Fucking die.
That sort of thing.
I mean, I get it.
jordan holmes
You have staked out a clear economic stance, I guess.
dan friesen
I get it, but like...
Why are you putting that out in the world?
That's mean.
jordan holmes
Dan, put your money where your mouth is.
unidentified
That's mean.
jordan holmes
Or vice versa.
dan friesen
It's the same thing with what he's saying.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If you're not prepared for the end of the world, go fuck yourself.
dan friesen
And what does he mean by prepare for the end of the world?
Buy gold.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And probably guns.
alex jones
Obama ordered the Defense Department to issue DOD Directive 1404.10, establishing a one million person civilian army under his control.
It didn't do that.
I'm going to put another X down.
dan friesen
That's not part of the 10. I'm still going to put an X down.
You need to make sure that those two other X's are mini X's.
jordan holmes
There are three X's so far.
dan friesen
No, there's four.
jordan holmes
Right, but the three were before this.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
This is still point number two.
jordan holmes
This cannot be point number two.
dan friesen
These points are ambitious.
jordan holmes
This cannot be point number two.
There are eight different things that he's talked about so far.
alex jones
Masquerades as a federal agency, but in reality...
is a recruiting tool building a separate, completely private army.
dan friesen
It's not doing that.
jordan holmes
Okay, so do I put an X down now?
dan friesen
No.
alex jones
This is still point, too.
jordan holmes
This cannot still be point, too.
alex jones
It is.
Signed by George W. Bush.
dan friesen
So, Obama has refused to get rid of Presidential Decision Directive 51. Alex is about to say that it makes the president a dictator.
It doesn't fucking say that.
Right.
jordan holmes
Sorry, do we get to write another X down?
dan friesen
No, it's just another lie.
God damn it.
All it does is talk about how the...
Government should respond in the event of a catastrophic disaster.
And really, if you want to look at it, it hasn't really been enacted at all since it was enacted in 2007.
The only time an act like it has been put into place was what the original act was, which is Presidential Directive 67, which Clinton enacted in 1998, that only was ever enacted on 9-11, because that was a catastrophic disaster.
jordan holmes
It kind of seems like that was a...
A bit of an outlier.
dan friesen
So we have a history since 1998 of Presidential Directive 67 and PDD 51 after that.
So that's a whole history since 1998.
It's been enacted once.
No one's ever abused it.
I don't know.
I don't care.
I don't give a fuck.
jordan holmes
Before we go any further, I don't know if anybody remembers this picture because I haven't seen it in a long time.
dan friesen
You got Dick over there?
Chaney.
jordan holmes
Most evil collection of human beings in one room.
dan friesen
Rummy?
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
Rumsfeld is...
Rumsfeld is like the avatar of benign murder.
dan friesen
Is a murder bender.
jordan holmes
Like, he just...
It's almost like he has no feeling...
As far as sociopaths go.
It bums me out because he doesn't even take pleasure in the destruction that he foments.
dan friesen
You wish he would come from time to time while he's being evil.
jordan holmes
He's just so empty on the inside.
This is the most evil collection of people.
And then George W., you poor dumb bastard, you fucking idiot.
dan friesen
It's a rough picture.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
It's a tough memory.
jordan holmes
There are zero people in this picture, and you can't say this a lot.
There are zero people in this picture who don't deserve the death penalty.
dan friesen
Yeah, they should all go to The Hague.
alex jones
They should all go to The Hague.
The president is a dictator.
dan friesen
It doesn't.
alex jones
And that Congress is ceremonial.
dan friesen
It doesn't say that either.
unidentified
We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set.
dan friesen
Alex played this clip earlier.
Again, that is just about the Peace Corps.
jordan holmes
By the way, you can purchase a DVD copy of the Obama Deception at Infowars.com.
unidentified
Just as strong.
Just as well-funded.
dan friesen
They love it.
alex jones
President Obama and his Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel.
64?
dan friesen
That's crazy.
unidentified
Citizenship is not an entitlement program.
It comes with responsibilities.
Now, it doesn't always have to be service in uniform.
barack obama
One of the things that if you talk to our generals, they are desperate for, is a civilian counterpart to our military forces.
dan friesen
So, Alex, what he's doing is he's cutting between interviews where people are talking about different things.
Rahm is doing this interview about his book on C-SPAN in 2006 about this idea that he has about creating civilian, not armies, but people who are able to respond at a moment's notice.
That sort of idea, which never got anywhere.
And then Obama talking about the Peace Corps.
He's cutting in between those two things as if they're the same thing, and they're fucking not.
unidentified
Is this compulsory then?
Well, you have to, in a sense, it's required of everybody.
18 to 25, three months.
And at some point at that point, you do it.
dan friesen
Also, Alex said 18 to 64. I don't know where he got that number because Rom is the only person who's giving age numbers.
He's saying 18 to 25. So I don't know where 64 is coming from.
jordan holmes
And also, what's the cutoff?
It's like when you turn 64 or when you turn 65?
Do you know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
I think if you're 64, 360 days.
You're in, baby.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's fair.
I feel like if you're going to say 18 to 64...
dan friesen
It's only three weeks.
Who gives a shit?
unidentified
Also, it's not real.
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
I forgot about that part.
Do I get to write another excerpt?
God damn it!
webster tarpley
If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement...
Oh my god, no.
jordan holmes
Don't be accurate now!
webster tarpley
Stop it!
jordan holmes
Stop it!
dan friesen
So here, I actually think that this is the best evidence that Alex Jones is a complete...
Fucking liar.
Because I've paused this here on screen and what it says, America serves here, right?
America serves.
And what this sentence says is, Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year.
Now, I went back to the Wayback Machine and I found what that website actually said.
Oh, no.
When Alex would have taken this...
jordan holmes
No, did they fucking...
No, no.
I'm writing an X down preemptively.
dan friesen
I can't say with certainty who did it, but someone doctored this.
This is photoshopped.
jordan holmes
No shit.
dan friesen
100%.
jordan holmes
No shit.
dan friesen
Because I tracked it through the entire period when Obama was running, when Alex could have been making this documentary, up to the day that the documentary came out.
And it didn't say that on the website.
I'll read to you the quote that it does say on the website.
jordan holmes
No fucking shit.
dan friesen
It says Obama and Biden will call on citizens of all ages to serve.
They'll set a goal that all middle school and high school students engage in 50 hours of community service a year and develop a plan for all high school students who engage in 100 hours of community service to receive a fully refundable tax credit of $4,000 for their education.
So the idea of that was...
jordan holmes
So they removed all of the...
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Holy shit!
dan friesen
This is entirely doctored.
Now, whether Alex took it from a disreputable source and thought it was real and has plausible deniability, or one of his employees did a Photoshop job or something like that, there is literally no way that this page existed on Obama's website during the time when Alex could have been making this documentary.
jordan holmes
Holy fucking shit!
dan friesen
I'm very certain of that.
jordan holmes
That's cool as fuck.
Nicely done, Dan.
dan friesen
Thanks.
jordan holmes
Nicely done.
dan friesen
But it's so weird.
It's so weird.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna go to bed.
dan friesen
Well, the only thing that's really substantively changed is, I mean, some of the language, but...
jordan holmes
To require.
dan friesen
The require part is what's changed.
jordan holmes
And there's no part of the $4,000.
And then they will get $4,000.
dan friesen
If they choose to do that.
And the whole thrust of it is that Obama and Biden are calling on people to do this.
It's, we would like you to do this.
It's not, we're going to tell you to do it.
But also, if you look here, Obama will call.
Whoever did this used the same language in order to make it seem like, yeah, he's saying call on you to do it.
But it still says require.
That sort of thing.
That is absolutely fraud.
No matter how you slice it, that's fraud.
That's not real.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
We got him, Dan!
dan friesen
I guess.
But we don't.
Because you can say this and he'll be like, I just got that screenshot from Jack Posobiec.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He wasn't around back then.
jordan holmes
Fine, we got Posobiec then.
I don't give a shit.
Let's get somebody.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Whoever...
jordan holmes
Look, if we're gonna close a case, we gotta close a case.
dan friesen
Oh, the case is closed.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
On at least this instance.
Like, this dead to rights is fraud.
Someone doctored this.
It wasn't on Obama's website.
At all.
jordan holmes
Holy shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
webster tarpley
Fascism is gutter up, streets up, hooligans, thugs, fervently idealistic students, swarming adolescents, just the kind of thing you see around Obama.
The way you get a population...
jordan holmes
Oh, man, dude.
webster tarpley
The police and the army are no longer enough to do that.
So I think that's, if you're a left liberal...
It's time to open your eyes to that.
dan friesen
Fascism generally is not on the left.
jordan holmes
Not usually our thing, man.
dan friesen
Why did he say 18 to 24 this time?
That doesn't even match with Ron's 18 to 25 and Alex's 18 to 64 from earlier.
His ages make no sense.
alex jones
Why seniors?
What else are they doing?
unidentified
What, are they busy?
alex jones
Number three.
Oh!
jordan holmes
I'm going to preemptively write an X down.
alex jones
Obama operatives in the Congress have introduced more than ten bills that would end the Second Amendment as we know it.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
So, again, mission failed.
jordan holmes
Holy shit!
dan friesen
Mission failed.
Globalists?
jordan holmes
We're an hour and a half in and this is the first time we've really substantively mentioned that Obama's going to take her guns away.
dan friesen
I guess so.
Yeah, it is kind of weird.
jordan holmes
That's like the most important thing of the past eight years of Obama's presidency is he's going to take her guns away.
And we're starting out the gate with like an hour and a half of bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And this is not a big part of the documentary, but he's bringing up the gun thing and I'll say, mission failed, globalists.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
All five of the most deadly mass shootings have happened since this documentary was made.
And nothing has happened.
Nothing has been done to curb the access to guns.
In 2018 alone, there have been over 300 mass shootings and no one gives a shit.
And when I say no one, I don't mean no one.
But no one really seems to...
There's nothing happening.
jordan holmes
I think it's more like we've just been ground into a paste.
Where human beings with empathy and will used to live.
We've been grounded to a paste by the NRA and Trump and Pence and all of these fuckers.
dan friesen
And Alex.
jordan holmes
Doing everything possible to rob us of hope or ability.
dan friesen
Now keep in mind that all of the bills that Alex is about to mention died in committee.
alex jones
H.R. 1022 would allow the new Attorney General Eric Holder.
The dictatorial power to ban any gun he wishes at will.
dan friesen
No, it wouldn't.
H.R. 1022 did nothing except reinstate the assault weapons ban that Clinton passed in 1994.
It didn't pass.
alex jones
In 2008, before the Supreme Court, in the D.C. gun ban case, District of Columbia v.
Heller, Holder argued for the complete disarmament of the American people.
dan friesen
No, he didn't.
He had nothing to do with D.C. versus Heller.
He wasn't the Attorney General at the time.
He wasn't involved in the case.
All Eric Holder did in that case was sign an amicus brief, which supported the idea that the Second Amendment doesn't necessarily provide the right for all citizens to own whatever guns they want.
Alex is fucking lying.
Eric Holder didn't argue before the Supreme Court in D.C. versus Heller.
jordan holmes
Oh, come on!
The founders knew that automatic weapons were a thing.
alex jones
HR 257 would ban all youth shooting sports, including YMCA and Youth Olympic Shooting Clubs.
dan friesen
HR 257 died in committee and did contain language that was supportive of schools having gun safety programs as exemptions from the restrictions on minors having guns.
It would be very easy to see how a well-run gun club like this 4-H club that Alex is talking about would easily fall under the heading of gun safety programs.
This is all bullshit.
alex jones
H.R. 45 would force all gun owners to undergo federal psychological screening.
jordan holmes
Yes!
alex jones
Registration and testing to keep their firearms.
jordan holmes
All the time.
100% of the time, yes.
dan friesen
H.R. 45, much like all of these, died in committee.
It was really actually more about the idea that you needed proper licenses to buy guns, that sort of idea.
Ironically, though, in his 2018 interview with Patrick Bette David that we went over when Alex was fucking drunk at that hotel, Alex Jones says he doesn't want crazy people to have guns, and he endorsed the idea that people should have to pass a mental health screen to buy guns.
Yeah.
unidentified
So he's already, you know, he's sort of given up on that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I'm going to give him a bonus X for that.
So far we have three points.
dan friesen
I think you should put a line under that X or something just because it's like a continuing to the present X or something like that.
jordan holmes
So far we have three points that he's made.
Right.
unidentified
And there are seven X's.
dan friesen
This isn't good.
jordan holmes
This is not going well for him so far.
alex jones
White House Chief of Staff.
dan friesen
Nor the globalists.
alex jones
Has proposed the extrajudicial banning of any American on the fraudulent no-fly list from owning any firearm.
unidentified
That is, if you are on the no-fly list because you are known as maybe a possible terrorist, you cannot buy a handgun in America.
alex jones
It's a little higher than actual.
dan friesen
I think that Alex is fair on this based on the time he's making this, but everyone was also, like, a lot of people on the left were like, hey, fuck this noise.
jordan holmes
What are you doing?
dan friesen
Yeah, the no-fly list was an absurd situation.
jordan holmes
What is the no-fly list in a practical way?
Like, what are you guys doing?
dan friesen
Alex is exaggerating about it a little bit, but I think spiritually he's kind of right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I'll give him the tip of the cat on that.
jordan holmes
No, I'm with you.
unidentified
It's a case of mistaken identity for a five-year-old boy from Normandy Park.
He had trouble boarding a plane because someone with his same name is wanted by the federal government.
King 5's Mimi Jung is live at SeaTac Airport to explain.
Mimi.
jordan holmes
I love local news.
I love local news so much.
dan friesen
This story means nothing.
jordan holmes
So good.
I love local news.
dan friesen
This means nothing.
It's so dumb.
jordan holmes
I want more people on the scene.
Everywhere.
dan friesen
I like the coat that she's wearing, too.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
It's bright yellow.
She's warm.
dan friesen
I love it.
jordan holmes
I love it.
dan friesen
I love all the aesthetics about this.
jordan holmes
Local news, I want...
Any situation I'm in, I want there to be somebody on the scene with me.
dan friesen
But I also think that Alex could just say, hey, the no-fly list is fucking stupid.
And he wouldn't have to play this news clip to drive that point home.
jordan holmes
You know what?
unidentified
If he did that...
dan friesen
We'd all get it.
jordan holmes
If he did that, instead of having to edit in applause behind him, we'd all be like, YEAH!
Fuck the no-fly list!
That's fucking stupid!
It doesn't make any sense!
dan friesen
Maybe we wouldn't be hype about it, but we'd be on his side.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Lori, it's hard to believe that a five-year-old could be considered a threat, but that's exactly what happened here at SeaTac last week when Matthew Gardner showed up.
jordan holmes
Oh, we are putting so many of them in prisons right now.
dan friesen
Isn't that cute?
jordan holmes
We're putting them in camps.
unidentified
Oh, that's a white kid.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, well then never mind.
unidentified
But when he and his mom checked in for their flight at SeaTac last week, Matthew was considered the criminal.
jordan holmes
Two-year-olds go in front of judges now, lady.
unidentified
The right to bear arms is canceled.
dan friesen
Now that kid can't have a gun?
Is that what you're saying?
jordan holmes
I'm fine with that!
unidentified
There is no right for you.
And even though this Matthew Gardner is only in kindergarten, TSA workers still conducted a full-blown search.
dan friesen
That's nuts.
Also, TSA people are fucking stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's less like a government run amok and more like, maybe we should hire people with more than a college bachelor?
dan friesen
This is a staffing problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And also, oversight problem.
unidentified
He searched me to make sure that I had not obtained any materials from him.
alex jones
And I'm white.
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
I'm going to preemptively write an X down.
alex jones
The president, Congress, and the FCC have announced plans to not only curtail speech on talk radio and newspapers, but to also regulate speech on the Internet through the Orwellian-named Fairness Doctrine.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, I've actually written down two X's on top of each other X that I've written down.
dan friesen
Mission failed, globalists, in terms of that count.
The Fairness Doctrine was a rule that was put in place by the FCC in 1949 related to political TV and radio, needing to provide balanced coverage, equal time for different political ideologies.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, they were so...
Clear-eyed and young-hearted back then.
dan friesen
It was also abolished in 1987.
jordan holmes
They thought that just providing equal opportunity for each side would create balance.
It was so beautiful.
dan friesen
Sure.
That's how we got Gore Vidal and William Buckley arguing.
Because he needed both of them.
jordan holmes
It was so beautiful.
dan friesen
But it was abolished in 1987 and has never been brought back, nor will it ever be.
Obama didn't bring it back, not even in the slightest.
Go watch any goddamn political show and you'll see exactly...
unidentified
No, come on!
jordan holmes
Come on, you remember how Fox News was devoted to providing fair and balanced coverage, right?
dan friesen
They used that word, certainly, but yeah, no.
jordan holmes
No, they had equal sides on all of this.
alex jones
The Obama machine is also pressuring Congress to pass draconian hate speech laws that will eviscerate the First Amendment.
Number five, they plan to further federalize health care so that the government can dictate what kind of care citizens receive.
jordan holmes
That's a good...
So here's the fun thing about that statement, is that he is presenting that as a negative thing, but actually, yeah, the government should be able to dictate that, as opposed to the insurance companies.
Who, when they dictate that, means that they don't pay for anything.
dan friesen
We'll get back to number five in a second.
I'm not done with number four.
Alex jumped really quickly there.
The hate speech thing that he's talking about, it's really just paranoia among people who just want to use a bunch of hate speech.
They're worried that their right to say offensive things will be taken away.
jordan holmes
What, I'm not going to be allowed to say the N-word at work anymore, Dan?
dan friesen
That's never been an issue.
Maybe at work, but that's your employer's business.
That's not your free speech or anything like that.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to be allowed to go see Madea Goes to Christmas and say the N-word at the theater anymore?
dan friesen
You're certainly allowed.
I mean, the consequences of your actions will be brought upon you, you know, whatever that may be.
Empty theater, go for it.
Other people in the theater, they might not be thrilled.
jordan holmes
All right, so I'm not allowed to go see Ice Dancing and say the N-word anymore, Dan?
dan friesen
Well, they would confuse people, but also...
Same rules apply as to the Medea situation.
If you're the only person there watching the ice dancing, you probably get away with it.
People performing are probably too busy performing to really respond in a meaningful way.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Actually, I think ice dancers would probably stop their routine and be like...
dan friesen
We're done.
jordan holmes
I don't know what that is.
dan friesen
Look, none of that stuff has ever really been the issue, but what has has been expanding what characteristics qualified for consideration in determining what constitutes a hate crime.
Previously, to the time that we're talking about, if you were to beat up someone who was trans because they were trans, it wasn't a hate crime.
But with the expanded legal definitions of what constituted a hate crime, it could constitute a hate crime.
That sort of thing.
You'd be totally free to say whatever bullshit you want.
You can say whatever you want.
You could say that trans people aren't human if you want.
Go for it.
It's a free speech.
I mean, whatever other people would respond to that, that's also their freedom to respond.
But, like, that is what Alex is talking about when he's talking about draconian hate speech laws that are going to eviscerate the First Amendment.
It's this same sort of thing.
It's like protecting classes of people that weren't protected before.
Now to the number five.
jordan holmes
I am just trying to survive.
We're at...
dan friesen
We're almost done.
jordan holmes
We're at 13.5 million hours of this documentary.
unidentified
Now, to number five.
dan friesen
Federalizing healthcare.
Like you said, I agree.
I think that's actually a good goal.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, Alex has huge concern about this paranoia about rationing healthcare and restricting procedures.
That's why he's afraid about this idea of federalizing healthcare.
But even if we imagine for a second that this is just paranoia he's expressing, the insurance industry previously did a whole hell of a lot of restricting procedures and rationing care.
jordan holmes
No, they were great.
dan friesen
In fact, one of the primary functions of the ACA was making it so they couldn't arbitrarily I hate Obamacare, and I absolutely can't remember a time whenever insurance companies didn't allow you to have insurance because of pre-existing conditions.
jordan holmes
Those two things are absolutely not related to each other, Dan.
dan friesen
I have zero interest in Alex's take on health care, mostly because I think he just is operating from a place of not really giving a fuck about people.
But in terms of this, so the first four, I would say, mission not accomplished globalists, or failed hard.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This one, mission, but then failed.
Wow.
Because we're already, you know, but...
jordan holmes
I guess medium?
dan friesen
Looked good for a bit, and then no.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Modeled after the British system, this includes rationing care and restricting what procedures the handicapped and elderly are eligible for.
Number six, Obama is already pushing to expand the Department of Defense budget and to station more U.S. troops overseas to encircle Russia, China, Iran.
jordan holmes
And alphabetically...
Ireland would be next.
dan friesen
Northern Ireland, who has a lot of envoys we've talked about on this program.
Certainly.
Obama didn't do any of these things.
Certainly not at the time that this documentary was made.
So, I would say that this is also mission failed, the globalists.
jordan holmes
Poor bastards.
When will you ever catch a break, globalists?
alex jones
As well as setting up bases in Africa under the pretext of humanitarian aid.
And dominate and occupy Africa through AFRICOM.
dan friesen
You have Bob Chapman on your show all the fucking time, who was a profiteer from apartheid South Africa.
You legitimately, Alex, you have no fucking right to make any pronouncement about what the globalists might do to Africa.
jordan holmes
The globalists are going to take Africa down.
dan friesen
What an asshole.
alex jones
So we're taking your phone call, seeing what you think of Barack H. Obama.
Is he a euniscope?
Is he a frontman?
Is he a betrayer?
Let's go to Anthony in Georgia.
Anthony, what's your take on Barack Obama?
dan friesen
Does this seem like a setup to you?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Because it is.
jordan holmes
No, come on.
dan friesen
We heard on our show, when we were going over 2009 episodes, the first time Anthony called in.
It was right at the end of an episode, when Alex was about to go off air.
And this guy called in, and Alex was like, Oh, my God.
You're a guy who's really against Obama.
alex jones
Call in tomorrow.
dan friesen
I need to record you for the Obama deception.
This is the end result of that.
unidentified
Jesus.
They put the face of Barack Obama as part of their public relations because it's like the old folktales about vampires.
dan friesen
Oh, vampires.
unidentified
A vampire cannot force his way into somebody's house.
dan friesen
Sure, sure, sure.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
unidentified
Some kind of metaphysical law.
jordan holmes
Obama works on metaphysical laws.
dan friesen
Does this guy legit, literally believe in vampires?
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
Or is it just vampires aren't real, but the rules of vampires are?
What is being expressed here?
I don't understand.
unidentified
It's the household to open the door and invite him in.
So they're going to look at the people at Barack Obama, which looks like them, and appears to be on their side.
Okay, here's my ally.
Let me open the door.
dan friesen
Sounds like Professor Griffith.
unidentified
And let me let this person in.
And then Barack Obama is just, of course, a front man for the American empire, where he's going to have the entire U.S. Navy, the entire U.S. Army, and the entire U.S. Marines under AFRICAN command.
And, of course, he's going to turn it into a new Iraq, and he's going to turn it into a new Afghanistan.
Everything, every operation that you see going on.
going on in Iraq and Afghanistan is going to propagate to the poor countries of Africa.
alex jones
Sir, I agree with you.
They're looking to the people.
They see a handsome, smiling African face.
You know, he's all, hey, I'm from Kenya.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
alex jones
And then it's a total major switch.
It's the same thing here in the United States where they would get sellout Native American chiefs to sell out their people.
This is the oldest trick in the book.
jordan holmes
This is not good.
alex jones
And he can also pacify the most downtrodden minority groups in the United States.
And he's saying, hey, get ready for sacrifice.
Get ready to lose your standard of living.
They're like, yay, I love Obama.
dan friesen
Hey, Alex.
How about you go fuck yourself when you're talking about sellout Native American chiefs while in this same documentary making a hero of Andrew Jackson?
You motherfucker.
How dare you have those two ideas at the same time?
I would say, Jordan, I would say that literally that juxtaposition, sellout Native American chiefs, and I love Andrew Jackson, is all you need to know about Alex Jones.
That dichotomy is...
That sums him up perfectly.
jordan holmes
You know, it's like...
Dan, you're so unfair.
It's like finishing a genocide is so different to you than starting one.
Oh, wait, no.
Andrew Jackson was a fucking genocider.
I forgot about that.
alex jones
They can never get away with this.
dan friesen
But these sellout Native Americans.
webster tarpley
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It was the Native Americans' fault that Andrew Jackson genocided them.
dan friesen
Loves to blame the victims.
webster tarpley
Kick them out of Sudan where they get oil.
Kick them out of Zimbabwe where they get raw materials.
Start a civil war in Congo, another big source of raw materials.
Al-Qaeda, an arm of the US...
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure, throw them in there.
dan friesen
Why not?
Al-Qaeda's not an arm of the...
unidentified
Nah, Al-Qaeda.
dan friesen
Also, I don't understand what this documentary fuels about China.
It's very confusing to me.
jordan holmes
Does this documentary acknowledge China?
dan friesen
Yeah, Webster Tarpley has.
Alex did earlier, insinuating that they're working together in this New World Order shit.
Now we're trying to kick them out of Africa.
Apparently we're enemies.
I don't fucking understand.
We can't make heads or tails of the geopolitical game because Webster Tarpley's version of geopolitics is different than Alex's.
So the two of them existing at the same time in this documentary is fucking confusing.
And they do know, they do...
Nothing to try and make the two work together.
jordan holmes
I think I've lost my mind.
dan friesen
Yeah, I know.
jordan holmes
I think I'm done.
dan friesen
We're almost done.
jordan holmes
I think I've literally lost my mind.
dan friesen
We're going to make it.
webster tarpley
Okay.
jordan holmes
You're more confident than me.
webster tarpley
...and in Kenya around Odinga.
That's Obama's cousin.
dan friesen
It's not.
webster tarpley
This is a guy who has two children.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
webster tarpley
And, well, nephew in a broad sense.
jordan holmes
What does a broad sense mean?
dan friesen
He doesn't know anything.
jordan holmes
He's a broad sense?
dan friesen
Odinga is not Obama's cousin.
He said he was in an interview, but that was just trying to get him more elevation in the polls.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I remember us talking about that.
dan friesen
We talked about that a whole bunch.
Also, by the way, spoiler alert, he says that Odinga has two kids, he has four at this point, and they're not Obama's, he's not Obama's cousin, but if he were, they wouldn't be his niece and nephew, they would be second cousins.
This is a lot of bullshit.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
How any of these people are allowed to continue?
dan friesen
Talking?
Yes!
unidentified
Period.
dan friesen
They should stop!
jordan holmes
They should really stop.
webster tarpley
And one of them is named Raul, and the other one is named Winnie, after Winnie Mandela did the necklacing and political assassinations in South Africa.
So this Odinga is essentially a CIA destabilizing operation in Kenya.
jordan holmes
Shouldn't these guys know when to stop?
webster tarpley
Odinga Islamic Alliance to crush the Christians in...
In Kenya, but...
jordan holmes
You're just saying words!
You're not saying things!
dan friesen
He's arguing that there's an Odinga-Islamic alliance.
What?
Odinga is a Christian.
Like, he's not a Muslim.
I know that doesn't matter, but, like, he's trying to paint him as if he is.
He's not.
jordan holmes
All I know is he's one of the great historians of our time.
webster tarpley
Absolutely.
Give me ten more subtitles, Dan.
So all of Africa is a battlefield in flames between the U.S. and the Chinese.
dan friesen
As if it wasn't before.
Like, over the last couple hundred years, as if it wasn't just a playground for colonialist interests.
Like, imagine a worse scenario.
They could be in.
I'm not sure there is one.
I don't know.
Maybe everything's on fire.
Maybe everything's on fire.
jordan holmes
If everybody was Eritrea 20 years ago?
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
I guess?
dan friesen
But the idea of, like, the geopolitical picture that he's putting out here doesn't reflect reality.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
This is one of these times that, like, I looked into it, I kind of understand it, but then I was also like, Fuck off.
I've already done...
I've spent too much time digging into the specifics.
I don't care about your analysis, Tarpley.
jordan holmes
This is insane.
webster tarpley
With Obama leading the charge to kick the Chinese out for geopolitical reasons.
alex jones
Number seven.
Radically expand federal control over family farms and ranches.
jordan holmes
Wait, when did we get to number six?
dan friesen
Six.
jordan holmes
What was number six again?
dan friesen
Something to do with Odinga.
jordan holmes
Six was Odinga?
dan friesen
Six was ensnare the world in war, which he didn't do.
It was that one, it started with him talking about like encircling...
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
All right.
I'm going to put another X down just in case then.
dan friesen
So now we're going to...
The seven is we're going to destroy family farms.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Mission failed, globalists.
jordan holmes
I think they did that one.
dan friesen
No, they didn't.
jordan holmes
Oh, they didn't?
All right.
I'll write another X down.
alex jones
Celebrate the merger of the United...
dan friesen
Oh, holy shit.
We're already at number eight.
jordan holmes
Wait, number eight happened already?
dan friesen
So number seven, when he was talking about, right before we went back to this, he was talking about the animal ID system and premises ID.
These are two things that the globalists were going to put into place in order to make it so that farms can't exist.
The animal ID proposal was a voluntary system.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But it's actually even worse for Alex's argument than that.
According to the National Agricultural Law Center, quote, While the NAIS program was voluntary on the federal level, some states mandated portions of it on the state level.
This was just a system that was proposed in order to track animals, so if there's an outbreak of something like mad cow, it becomes easier to contain.
It was voluntary, a suggestion on the federal level, but a couple states, states' rights, decided to pass it as mandatory on the state level.
No, Alex shouldn't give a shit about that.
They chose to do that.
It's the states.
Fuck you, Alex.
alex jones
The states with Canada and Mexico under the Security and Prosperity Partnership.
jordan holmes
Purchase a DVD copy of the Obama Deception at InfoWars.com.
dan friesen
So number eight is we're going to merge Canada, U.S., and Mexico.
Mission failed.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's number eight?
Oh boy.
alex jones
We're going to throw down another X. He is also accelerating the transfer of remaining federal authority to unelected quasi-governmental bodies like the World Trade Organization.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Oh, we're already at number nine?
alex jones
He's going to play the part of the president.
jordan holmes
We spent so much time on one and two.
alex jones
I'm finding these coming now hard and fast.
Because in four to eight years, Obama must take the blame, as Bush did, for the New World Order's horrific agenda.
At that point, the elite will put a new puppet in the ceremonial seat of power and build him up as the savior only to tear them down again.
unidentified
Yeesh.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
Oh, no, Dan.
Dan, I don't want to live in the future anymore.
Dan, take me back to the past.
dan friesen
How hilarious is that?
jordan holmes
Take me back to the past, Dan.
dan friesen
How hilarious is that?
jordan holmes
I don't want to live in the future now.
dan friesen
That's so funny.
jordan holmes
I want to live in 2009.
dan friesen
His prediction is that four or eight years from now, they're going to have to build up somebody else as a savior.
Alex, you did that.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
You did that.
jordan holmes
I want to live back in the past.
dan friesen
Eight years from when this documentary came out, you built up a false savior.
jordan holmes
Dan, can we build a time machine?
dan friesen
So, I would say that also the globalists failed on that one, based on Alex's perceptions.
So far.
I think forever.
Yeah, probably.
Alex is such a dumb rube.
jordan holmes
This is so stupid.
I think of so many X's past where we are now, I'm not sure how many more X's to write down.
dan friesen
Also, your point is well taken, that he spent a fucking long time on the beginning and much less on the end, and I think that mirrors my approach to this documentary.
I was kind of like, I'm sick of this.
I think he got through like three years, like, I think I can defend these.
And then we're like...
jordan holmes
And let's throw him in there.
Hard and fast.
Hard and fast.
dan friesen
9. 10. 20. 35. I like a round number.
Let's get to 10. Anyway, here we go.
alex jones
So the process is repeated over and over.
dan friesen
With Trump.
alex jones
For their program to work, it is essential that the people not learn that the presidency is now nothing more than theater.
Because if they did, the people would stop looking at the pawns and start looking for the king.
dan friesen
Or the queen.
alex jones
She can move better.
jordan holmes
Or any of the pieces you need to materialize in order to create it.
dan friesen
Also, who's the rook?
jordan holmes
Who's the rook?
dan friesen
Sure.
alex jones
Debating the media's spectacle instead of investigating the globalist agenda.
jordan holmes
I know the bishop is Greenspan.
alex jones
Number 10. It's Obama's job to sell the public on globalist policies that aren't in the people's best interest.
But the overlords have many salesmen.
dan friesen
X. I tried to figure out a way.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's throwing in Al Gore right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, climate change shit.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
I tried to figure out a way to describe...
All these points, I tried to synthesize them into...
Number eight was merge Canada, U.S., and Mexico.
That's a good synthesization.
Number 10, I tried to figure out...
And this is a shout-out to our friends over at Marty and Sarah Love Wrestling.
The best I can tell is number 10 is protect the business.
I don't fucking know.
You'll hear what he says.
I think it's just like...
Don't snitch, or something like that.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
alex jones
Important function is to protect the criminal oligarchs from prosecution while they loot the economy worldwide, start new wars, and engage in torture.
dan friesen
They're called Generation O, and they were the key to Barack Obama's White House win.
Also, in that he was saying that, like, Obama's role is to make sure that no one finds out who the power behind the government is and stuff like that.
I have no idea what he fucking means by that, because, like, who's Obama protecting?
Is it David Rockefeller?
Because people, like, weirdos have been complaining about him for a lot longer than Obama's been around.
Is it the CFR?
Because conspiracies about them date back to, like, Phyllis Schlafly's early work.
I don't understand what secret Obama's supposed to be protecting, except...
If the case is, it's a secret that Alex also hasn't revealed.
And we don't know what that is.
Which would imply that he too is protecting that secret.
jordan holmes
Wait, so is he about to reveal that secret right now?
dan friesen
No.
No.
I'm suggesting that his number 10, his whole idea about Obama, is supposed to make sure that the people don't see who's behind the throne.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I know who Alex has said, the names that he's thrown out there.
And those aren't revelations.
It's nothing new or anything like that.
So if there is somebody and Alex knows about it, he's not telling us either.
That means that he's also protecting that secret.
jordan holmes
So either Alex is wrong.
dan friesen
He's just making shit up.
jordan holmes
Duh.
Or if Alex is right, then Alex is complicit.
dan friesen
By his own account.
jordan holmes
By his own account, he's complicit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He is as guilty as all of these people of protecting the globalist secret.
jordan holmes
That's ironic.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Choose one side or the other, Alex, you dumb, dumb twat.
unidentified
During the campaign, Barack Obama used the internet like no other candidate before him.
dan friesen
He was like Dane Cook.
unidentified
Millions of his supporters, but the question now is, what do you do with this young, eager, energetic army?
jordan holmes
Gallup!
unidentified
This gives Barack Obama and his administration contact information for so many people, so next time he needs to push his legislation, he can contact all these people.
dan friesen
Oh no, a mailing list.
unidentified
I feel as though this was like when John F. Kennedy was elected.
Shouty, smiles, and tears.
Oh my God!
It was the best day of my life!
It was the scope of Obama's victory that was most impressive.
I saw a photograph of Obama playing basketball.
And I said, you know what?
I see him as a leader.
And that's the world that's in his hands.
Own a piece of history commemorating the day the world changed forever.
His confidence...
Smile and kind eyes are an inspiration to us all.
dan friesen
So Alex is trying to shit on the idea that they're selling Obama commemorative plates here.
jordan holmes
Dan, I don't want to hear about the Donald Trump commemorative.
dan friesen
I'll leave that part out.
jordan holmes
Look, I've seen more than enough of that shit.
dan friesen
I will cut out the part about Donald Trump's commemorative coin.
jordan holmes
It makes me cry.
Donald Trump's commemorative coin is so...
Horrific.
I will X. So gauche to the point where you're like...
There's no way that you could be a parody of yourself beyond the level that you already are.
And then you look at his fucking coin and you're like, holy shit, you're an amalgam of all the cartoon evil there's ever been.
You're like if Scrooge McDuck fucked the bad guys from Captain Planet.
dan friesen
Jordan, I promise you I will cut the part in my script where I talk about how he made a commemorative coin about him meeting with Kim Jong-un in Singapore.
jordan holmes
God, I want to kill you.
I'm going to kill you.
dan friesen
And he made the coin.
Before the summit.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna kill all of you.
dan friesen
Which didn't work out and then did.
jordan holmes
I don't mean to threaten violence, but I think I've reached that point.
dan friesen
So Alex is really shitty about this idea of this commemorative play.
jordan holmes
I'm struggling, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan?
jordan holmes
I'm running out of gas.
dan friesen
I understand.
We're close.
In 2011, the Atlantic did a deep dive into the world of Ron Paul memorabilia.
unidentified
Oh, no!
dan friesen
And some of it is pretty wild stuff.
They found that you could buy an oil paint portrait of Ron Paul for $500.
unidentified
Or...
dan friesen
If you preferred, you could treat yourself to a wooden plate with Ron Paul's face etched into it, commemorating his 2008 run for president for $60.
They found copper coins with Ron Paul's face on it, or with the iconic words, gold standard and leadership on it, which is ironic because it's a copper coin.
unidentified
All right.
All right.
dan friesen
All right, guys.
I think that might have been a joke.
I'm not sure, but it might have been.
It has to be.
jordan holmes
It has to be.
You can't be that unselfaware.
dan friesen
Also, there were a ton of silver coins.
So it's a wooden plate with Rod Paul etched into...
jordan holmes
It's like a brand.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
I saw a picture of it.
I'm not entirely sure.
It looks like something that you might do with a soldering iron.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I would eat off that plate.
dan friesen
Sure.
Interestingly...
jordan holmes
Let's get one of those plates.
dan friesen
In 2007...
Before this documentary came out.
According to CBS News, quote, federal agents raided the headquarters of a group that produces illegal currency and puts it in circulation.
Seasoned gold, silver, and two tons of copper coins featuring Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul on it.
One of the targets of the raid was apparently a guy named Bernard von Nottos.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
N-O-T.
jordan holmes
That's not even a name!
dan friesen
N-O-T.
jordan holmes
That's not a name!
dan friesen
N-O-T, capital H-A-U-S.
jordan holmes
Even if that is your name, that's not a name and you're not allowed.
dan friesen
Bernard von Notthaus, founder of the National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and Internal Revenue Code.
He said, quote, I'm volunteering to meet with agents and get arrested so we can thrash this out in court.
Ron Paul was quick to say, I had nothing to do with that shit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Von Knothouse was ultimately sentenced to six months house arrest.
unidentified
Alright.
dan friesen
So there's a bunch of people who've made a bunch of Ron Paul shit.
You want to complain about that, Alex?
Are you dumb, dumb, dumb?
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
Dumb weirdo?
jordan holmes
So...
So in a very literal sense...
He was sent to the Von Knothouse.
dan friesen
Yes.
Well, his own house, yes.
alex jones
In summation.
dan friesen
In summation.
alex jones
Oh my god, I don't know what's going to happen.
Being pushed by the corporate media is scientifically designed to capture the public in a net of peer pressure mass euphoria.
If the New World Order can just distract the public for a few more years, the elite can finish constructing...
jordan holmes
A few more years!
dan friesen
None of this is real.
unidentified
We don't want to know the issue.
jordan holmes
Hey, Professor Griff.
unidentified
We don't want to know the issue.
We feel...
What do you call this thing where you get this false sense of gratification, but because a black man is in office, everything's gonna be alright.
No, everything's not gonna be alright.
jordan holmes
I think the Germans have a word for that.
unidentified
And what the Democratic Party has been about, is about, and will be about, regardless if Barack Obama is the president or not.
And that's real.
dan friesen
So, I want to say one thing straight up.
Alex keeps talking about how this is, it's not partisan, this whole documentary, and he keeps talking about both parties, but every time he says that it's just pictures of Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic Party.
And at the end of the documentary he says, in summation, and then immediately plays a clip of Professor Griff saying, It doesn't matter about Obama.
It's about what the Democratic Party is doing.
It seems like this is very partisan.
jordan holmes
No, nonpartisan.
dan friesen
It seems very...
jordan holmes
Nonpartisan.
dan friesen
It seems deeply partisan.
jordan holmes
Nah, come on.
unidentified
Deeply.
jordan holmes
Deeply partisan.
What are you calling him, a hack?
dan friesen
It seems deeply partisan with the veneer, the misdirect of...
jordan holmes
It's libertarianism, Dan.
dan friesen
Right.
Sure.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Are we going to watch?
I'm waiting for Endgame to start now again.
I'm worried that this documentary is going to be another two hours long and it's just going to be Endgame on top of...
dan friesen
If that violin starts, I expect you to dive out the window.
jordan holmes
I'm going to kill everyone.
alex jones
Barack Obama is the perfect Trojan horse.
He makes the people feel like they finally have a place at the table.
dan friesen
Or maybe.
alex jones
Because he betrays them.
jordan holmes
They do finally have a place on the table?
unidentified
Oh, it's such a blessing to see you, Mr. President.
Thank you.
dan friesen
So, real quick, that clip of the lady who's like, I can pay my mortgage.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you go and find the larger clip of that, what she's saying is that now I don't feel as worried about the economy.
So I can pay my bills, I can pay my mortgage.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Not that Obama is going to pay her mortgage, which is what he's trying to insinuate there.
Right, right, right.
Deeply manipulative.
jordan holmes
So he's like editing it out of context to say something that it's not saying.
dan friesen
Never seen that!
Of course not.
Why would you?
alex jones
Many Obama supporters can't see what's right in front of their faces because they've already invested their very identity in this artificially created cult movement.
Oh, Hitler.
unidentified
Oh, hey!
jordan holmes
I wondered when we were going to see him.
dan friesen
I will say, we're an hour and 44 minutes into the documentary, and it took a remarkable restraint to not put a visual on it.
jordan holmes
He's been mentioned.
I will give him credit.
I will give him credit.
We've gone for an insane length of time with nothing happening to finally now get to Hitler.
dan friesen
I tip my hat to him in terms of, like, you held off.
I think you thought there would be, like, a real kaboom.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Look.
I'm stoked that we finally got our first Hitler.
dan friesen
Sure.
Everyone's first Hitler is a big moment.
jordan holmes
I'm proud that he showed the restraint an adult would have before bringing Hitler into it.
dan friesen
Like a grown-up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
And now, here's the thing.
And it's happening again.
The evidence presented in this film is documented fact.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
alex jones
And those that ignore what history has taught us do so at the peril of us all.
dan friesen
Fair.
alex jones
As frightening as the information in this film is, there are many things we can do to stop...
jordan holmes
I really don't know what the information in this film is.
alex jones
First, we expose the cult of Obama for what it is, a sad hoax.
dan friesen
Okay.
alex jones
Next, realize that we are all being propagandized 24-7.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Alright.
alex jones
Investigate all information for yourself.
dan friesen
I did.
alex jones
Be it political parties, the media, or this film.
dan friesen
I did, and you're wrong.
jordan holmes
Good work.
Then you proved how right Alex really is.
Whoa, we got 9-11 footage right there.
dan friesen
I betcha.
He's trying to pull out the big guns.
alex jones
Holy shit.
Constitution and Bill of Rights.
dan friesen
Oh.
alex jones
Where was it?
jordan holmes
Is this a national treasure situation, Dan?
alex jones
No, he's just trying to say at the end of this, like, the rediscover the Constitution.
dan friesen
It's just like, please be a sovereign citizen.
Please get into my weird patriot ideology.
jordan holmes
Rediscover the Constitution?
dan friesen
That's what that's code for.
It's not like, it doesn't mean anything.
It's not, it's not.
Hey, Constitution.
Doing fine, baby.
jordan holmes
Rediscovered.
alex jones
They know it is one of the biggest threats to their domination.
The federal government has been completely hijacked by foreign interest, and more than 25 states have recognized this fact and are moving to block the New World Order at the state level by declaring their Tenth Amendment powers.
dan friesen
This is what Alex has been doing on his radio show for the entire time we're listening to it.
All these people who all of these things die in committee.
All of them are just useless grandstanding by dumb people who are in the state legislature.
Again, the same position Barack Obama had before Alex knew any...
jordan holmes
When he came out of nowhere.
alex jones
But most important of all...
There is a huge awakening taking place in the United States and across the world against the globalist agenda.
Free people everywhere are joining together and saying no to corruption and tyranny and no to world government.
dan friesen
So now what we're going to do, like, the dismount of this legitimately is basically just going to be Alex trying to convince you.
jordan holmes
Me.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Me, specifically?
Oh, he's got an uphill battle, my friend.
dan friesen
He's going to just try and convince people who are listening that they're Neo in the Matrix, basically.
And he's going to use clips from pretty much all of the people that we've heard.
jordan holmes
But rapid fire.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
So he's trying to download Kung Fu into my brain in a very short period of time.
dan friesen
I will say that I don't think Willie Nelson is going to nod at you, and I'm sorry about that.
jordan holmes
Well, then what's the goddamn point, Dan?
dan friesen
Sorry, but this is just...
jordan holmes
If I don't have Willie Nelson next to me, I'm going to kill everyone in this room.
dan friesen
This is all just deeply manipulative, like, could it be you?
Are you important?
jordan holmes
That's a good question.
krs-one
This is the center of endurance, and endurance is what wins wars.
Not how many people you kill, but how long can you endure?
George Washington lost almost every battle he had.
dan friesen
Not true.
krs-one
But he endured.
He out-endured the British.
dan friesen
He asked to see their manager because his fries are cold.
jordan holmes
I really don't understand.
Whoa, man.
dan friesen
I guess the message is keep going, and I'm fine with that, I guess.
jordan holmes
So, historically, Washington was kind of a shit general.
dan friesen
No, he wasn't the best.
jordan holmes
I'm going to give him that.
He was kind of shit at the job.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
He looked great, though.
He didn't endure so much as he was somehow miraculously unkillable, and he was like six foot at the time, which means he was ten feet taller than everyone else.
dan friesen
But he also didn't lose most of his battles.
jordan holmes
He looked great on a horse.
dan friesen
That's an over-exaggeration of that idea that you're expressing, that he wasn't the best.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
No, during the French and Indian War, he was shit.
But you couldn't kill the guy.
That's the most enduring legacy that George Washington had.
He out endured the British.
dan friesen
The bullets that went into it.
jordan holmes
Except when he was fighting for the British during the French and Indian War.
george humphrey
Each and every one of you watching this.
Every single one of you is just as important as people who were our founding fathers.
dan friesen
You're as important as Benjamin Franklin.
george humphrey
I think that might be true.
To philosophize about freedom, to philosophize about a republic, to philosophize about a truly free country with a republic.
krs-one
There's a billion people on the planet.
More than that.
jordan holmes
That's not true.
krs-one
be on fire with kids wild and bringing guns that but are you the one nature has a way of abundance nature puts out a lot of stuff looking for the one what all right you're gonna go along with the trend of let's just kill each other Let's disrespect each other.
Then you're part of nature's plan as well.
dan friesen
I got bad news.
So is Gerald Salenti.
He's been spending this entire documentary telling everyone that they're stupid.
jordan holmes
Okay, two things.
One, still on that KRS-One tip.
unidentified
I'm a fan.
jordan holmes
So far, he has not said anything egregiously bad.
dan friesen
That metaphor?
jordan holmes
He has not said anything that makes sense.
But he has not said anything egregiously bad.
dan friesen
I agree with you.
jordan holmes
I am on Kairos1's tip.
dan friesen
I agree with you.
jordan holmes
And I think he's read Ender's game.
I think that's the entirety of Kairos1 so far is nothing egregiously bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Nothing that makes sense.
Red Ender's Game.
dan friesen
I think that if we were able to ever talk to him, which I know that will never happen, but I think if we did...
jordan holmes
Goddammit, Dan, you've got to believe in yourself.
dan friesen
I'm not the one.
But if we were able to talk to him, I bet he would probably be like, I shouldn't have done that documentary or something like that.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I disagree.
I think he would give us an amazing analogy for why doing that documentary was a great idea.
dan friesen
It wouldn't make any sense.
When you do a bad documentary, it's like your taco is cold.
Then you go to Yum Brands, which is owned by the Federal Reserve, and you complain about it.
You go to the teller, and you tell them that your taco is cold.
jordan holmes
Where's Winamp in this whole situation?
dan friesen
Winamp owns the Federal Reserve.
That's what everyone doesn't understand.
It's all secretive agreements.
jordan holmes
Wait, but I thought the Federal Reserve bought up Winamp when it was part of the Fortune 500.
dan friesen
You have no idea.
You have no idea.
Winamp changed its name to VLC Player, and it is now running the game.
Yes, absolutely.
Everyone knows that.
There's documentation.
You can see a congressional record.
I got documents.
No big deal.
Now I'm switching to Alex.
jordan holmes
I would like to do 10 million more of this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think he would probably not be thrilled with all this.
Especially the way the world has played out since then.
All the people in this documentary, I think the exception of Gerald Salenti, are people who no longer talk to Alex.
Joe Rogan has said, I can't have him on the show until you get some of this business cleared up.
Right, right, right.
Fucking Webster Tarpley is way off board.
Clearly subtweeting him in essays that he writes on his website.
All these people, they wouldn't fucking hang with Alex anymore.
I don't even think that...
I would bet money that Jesse Ventura wouldn't show up on his show anymore.
Willie Nelson was campaigning for Beto.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Willie Nelson's not coming back.
Willie Nelson's not coming back, Alex.
dan friesen
All these people, maybe it was naivete or something like that, and they thought that Alex wasn't the person that he...
Clearly was.
And they agreed to be a part of this.
jordan holmes
Well, nobody listens to Alex Jones as much as we fucking do.
dan friesen
I think they just don't take him seriously.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like most of the people, most of these people, you know, like so many people, if you go do this thing, you're like, oh, well, I'm aware of it.
I'm not like a follower, you know?
dan friesen
Oh, you have a bunch of listeners?
That's a PR opportunity for me?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, if I go do a show, it's not like I go to the show every week and watch it, and then I'm happy to do it one week.
It's like I go do it, you know?
And according to all the rules, I think it's fun.
But these guys don't have the gestalt of Alex.
dan friesen
I agree that that is probably very common, but I disagree that that is...
The simple way to operate.
Doing stand-up, I wouldn't do shows with the people who I thought were fucking shitheads who would invite me to do a show.
And I'm not saying everybody's gotta do that.
That's not necessarily, like, something they have to do.
But if someone, like, if I were KRS-One, and I had been, like, in 2009, he's been around and been famous since Boogie Down Productions in, like, what, the 80s?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, like, he's been around.
He knows what's what in terms of, like, what am I going to put my name on?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I would expect him to protect the brand a little bit better than to be like, oh, Alex seems cool.
unidentified
Fair.
dan friesen
So when you're saying, like, he hasn't said anything awful, I agree with you.
He hasn't said anything that's like, oh, man, that's a dog whistle.
You believe anti-Semitic nonsense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's no Professor Griff.
dan friesen
Right.
It's just like, oh, you're, oh, you're, oh, that's not a, that's not, that's dog.
jordan holmes
You're going to want to not believe this in two years, but, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I gotcha.
krs-one
To be part of just the, the, the, the excess.
But if you think more of yourself than just being the excess, you'll do more for yourself.
Are you the one?
Everybody's not going to make it.
But you have an opportunity to save yourself.
george humphrey
Well, we don't have to look back thousands and hundreds of years to see how dangerous this present-day situation is.
We can look back to Bolsheviks to see the takeover by the Bolsheviks talking about the People's Revolution, talking about the positive change, and Lenin came in and then Stalin.
The fact is, is that over 40 million Russians between 1925 and 1940...
Good Russians, people who are Christians, people who had their own businesses, people who were educated, they were exterminated because they had their own business, because they were educated, because they believed in God's law.
dan friesen
Is that why?
jordan holmes
Humphrey, Humphrey, Humphrey, Humphrey, you hold it back.
Now, be honest with me.
Are those the only reasons why?
dan friesen
I don't think so.
I mean, if you want to talk about that, there were a lot of fucking weird killings in the USSR.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, that shit was crazy.
dan friesen
But it wasn't just specifically targeting Christians.
They were anti-religion of all sorts.
This is just selectively choosing this part of history and being like, we were the victims of this.
Take a number, asshole.
george humphrey
We can look over at Germany.
Germany was in a very, very...
jordan holmes
I'm certain to think he has an agenda.
george humphrey
He didn't even make the roads good!
jordan holmes
You're talking about the wrong dictator!
george humphrey
You fucking idiot!
jordan holmes
And even the dictator you would be talking about if you were referencing the right dictator historically didn't even do that fucking check!
You're a fucking idiot!
dan friesen
Shut the fuck up!
jordan holmes
Fuck up!
dan friesen
But he's a historian.
jordan holmes
He's a fucking moron!
dan friesen
But also, the analogy that he's making there is the most flimsy thing ever.
It's, hey, here is Hitler said whether or not he made Rhodes great.
unidentified
Bah!
Bah!
dan friesen
He's saying that Hitler came in and was like, I'm gonna promise you all of these things, and then in actual reality, I'm gonna do fucking genocide.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That doesn't mean that anybody who promises you good things is going to end in genocide.
That's the completely...
That's the stupidest fucking way to look at things ever.
jordan holmes
Furthermore, Hitler campaigned on, like, let's not worry about the roads because I'm going to commit genocide.
dan friesen
There was some of that, yeah, and certainly it was targeting the communists initially.
jordan holmes
There was a lot of, like...
dan friesen
Hey, do you know who also hates communists?
All of these people.
jordan holmes
There's, like, a lot of, like, I'm going to pick out a specific subgroup.
And demonize them in order to gain power myself.
Not like, oh, I'm going to fix the roads.
You know what?
dan friesen
Gypsies are weird.
Let's get rid of them.
jordan holmes
You know what Obama never said?
Anything like that.
Let's take this one small group of people and destroy them because they're at fault for all of our problems.
Do you know what Hitler never said?
I believe if we work together, we can fix our roads.
dan friesen
And then repeatedly, come on guys, let's work together.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that Alex thinks that Obama kept saying, kill Whitey, or something like that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I think he thinks that he said that.
jordan holmes
And I wish he had.
dan friesen
But if he had, then you'd be like, oh, Humphrey, I see a curl of what you're saying.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But this is nothing.
jordan holmes
Well, but here's the thing.
Have we considered, for so long throughout history, The majority has chosen a small minority and singled them out and harassed them and made their lives miserable and killed them in order to cement political power amongst themselves.
What if, instead, Obama chose the majority, i.e.
white people, and just singled them out and made their lives miserable and killed a few?
Not a ton, but some of the good ones, you know?
Like, Lindsey Graham.
Like, we could lose him.
Like, that's fine.
dan friesen
You know?
jordan holmes
But, like, it's not a widespread thing.
I'm just saying, have we considered genocide on, like, the side of good?
You know?
dan friesen
I'm engaging with this as a thought experiment.
jordan holmes
Good-o-side, if you will.
dan friesen
I'm engaging this as an idea.
jordan holmes
The entirety of that was just to get to the portmanteau good-o-side, and I feel like I did my job.
I'm going to retire.
dan friesen
Well, I'll stop engaging with it as a thought experiment.
I had a bunch of thoughts about that.
jordan holmes
No, keep going.
dan friesen
No, it's more important that this ding-dong over here with a bad haircut wants to talk about Mao.
jordan holmes
You just turned this good aside into a bad aside.
dan friesen
I'm sorry.
Frown aside.
george humphrey
Mao came in.
He promised change.
He promised a better life.
And within five years, 60 million Chinese were exterminated.
jordan holmes
You care a lot.
george humphrey
They don't teach that in the schools these days.
dan friesen
They do.
They absolutely do.
But you know what else they teach?
They weren't exterminated.
The 60 million number is mostly due to starvation.
jordan holmes
Mismanagement.
dan friesen
We talked about that.
It's the mismanagement of resources, generally speaking, which was done by that woefully incompetent government, and at the same time, very unfortunately timed droughts that are very...
Have been very seriously a problem in China.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Mao didn't fucking kill people.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because they did.
jordan holmes
No, and part of the reason the mismanagement was so bad is because he killed people who knew how to manage things.
dan friesen
But at the same time, the 60 million number is thrown around so flippantly, and most of that is due to things that are not incidental, but...
It's not extermination as much as it is like they fucked up.
And you know what?
That wasn't the globalists.
I don't know what else to say about it.
It has nothing to do with the point of this movie.
I don't understand.
jordan holmes
No, I don't know what's going on here.
george humphrey
What's the goal?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Hitler?
Is the goal Hitler?
george humphrey
I pray to God that this will not happen in the United States.
And the way it won't happen is if you and your friends and all of us together...
dan friesen
Buy gold.
george humphrey
...say no.
This country is too precious.
It's too wonderful.
It's too good of a place to lay down as a victim.
gerald celente
Greatness could arise.
Once we break the shackles of the government that's holding us back, one thing America has more than any other country is an entrepreneurial spirit.
dan friesen
Not true.
gerald celente
One thing we have more than any other country is the ability to be innovators.
dan friesen
Not true.
gerald celente
If I was born in Italy, I wouldn't be the trend forecaster I am today.
dan friesen
Don't know what that means.
Don't know what that means.
jordan holmes
If I was born in Italy, I wouldn't be a failure.
dan friesen
No idea what that means.
gerald celente
Big brother doesn't come down on us harder.
alex jones
Humankind is at a historic crossroads.
The forces of globalism are marching towards absolute despotism.
Look in the mirror.
Count the cost.
dan friesen
Please bring back the violin.
alex jones
Yeah, I miss the violin.
Or will you stand tall with freedom lovers everywhere and stop the completion of a world dictatorship?
jordan holmes
Oh, my God!
unidentified
Thank you!
Oh, Christ!
dan friesen
Also edited by Rob Jacobson.
unidentified
Oh, Christ!
jordan holmes
Thank you so much.
unidentified
Ah!
jordan holmes
Wait, the music was by Rob Jacobson?
dan friesen
You did the first one, too.
You did Endgame as well.
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
So he's the one behind the violins?
dan friesen
You bet.
jordan holmes
Dude, his follow-up?
Shit.
dan friesen
Not great.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
You think it was a post-credit scene?
jordan holmes
Visual effects by Rob Jacobson?
dan friesen
Not good.
Oh, no, Nate Evans did the animations.
jordan holmes
Oh, that poor bastard.
dan friesen
The 3D animation.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
So where's Samuel L. Jackson, though?
Isn't he supposed to grab the Avengers at some point?
dan friesen
It's at the post-credits.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Voice over Alex Jones.
We fucking know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we got that.
Recorded and edited by Rob Jacobson.
Image layout.
I'm starting to feel like Rob Jacobson has a fucking strong part of this.
dan friesen
Jim Peruset, Alex's lawyer.
jordan holmes
Rob Jacobson.
dan friesen
Gerald Salenzi, thank you.
Webster, thank you.
jordan holmes
KRS-One, Jesse Ventura, Willie Nelson.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
God!
dan friesen
Wow, that's wild.
jordan holmes
Oh!
Put me out of my misery!
dan friesen
You didn't thank his wife.
jordan holmes
Kill me!
dan friesen
You didn't thank Kelly.
That's crazy.
There's got to be a post-credits.
alex jones
Thank you for watching.
jordan holmes
Oh, god damn you!
alex jones
I want to challenge all of you out there who are shocked by this film.
dan friesen
I'm challenged.
alex jones
To take time out to research the claims of this documentary.
I did.
So that you will discover that we've told you the truth.
dan friesen
You haven't.
alex jones
And that frankly, it's far worse than we could even present here in the limited time we had.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
And once you find out the claims in this film are true, I want to ask you about everything you can do.
Spread the word.
Warn your friends and family.
dan friesen
I guess we are doing that.
alex jones
I suppose?
About this betrayal.
We have to warn the people that Barack Obama, despite his fancy teleprompters and his silver tongue, is nothing more than a New World Order frontman, a pitchman, selling you tyranny.
Please get the high-quality DVD.
Wake them up.
Let them know the threat.
Let them know what the New World Order and the global banking system is doing.
Download high-quality copies at prisonplanet.tv.
Whatever you do.
Get the truth out to the people.
jordan holmes
You gotta get the truth out.
alex jones
Because as Thomas Jefferson said, all that evil men and tyrancy need to flourish is that good men and women do nothing.
So we cannot stand here idle while this treason is taking place.
jordan holmes
I really feel like Thomas Jefferson didn't say that.
alex jones
Thank you so much for watching the Obama Deception.
jordan holmes
That's not Thomas Jefferson.
dan friesen
I mean, it's a real quote.
Finally, at the end of this, Alex got a real quote.
Jordan.
This has been exhausting.
I thank you so much for putting up with this.
jordan holmes
I don't know what my name is, Dan.
I don't know what year it is.
dan friesen
It's Jordan.
The year is Jordan.
Your name is 2018.
jordan holmes
I remember having feet once upon a time, Dan.
But it seems like those are no longer available.
dan friesen
Well, we've done it.
This has been brutal.
And I want to just...
I mean, we've come to the end of this.
I want to say, as much as you have felt the pain of this...
jordan holmes
I can't imagine.
I can't imagine.
dan friesen
I am so glad to shake off the burden of ever engaging with the Obama deception ever again.
jordan holmes
I don't know if I'm even going to say your name for a week.
dan friesen
This sucked so much.
This documentary is utter trash.
I can't...
I don't think I...
I'm gonna do a fucking shoot, a wrestling shoot.
unidentified
Let's do it.
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
You fucking go to town, Dan.
dan friesen
Listen to me, Hogan.
Not Kevin Hogan.
I was doing a Hulk Hogan.
jordan holmes
Kevin, you're alright.
dan friesen
I forget that every time I say Hogan, I think about Kevin Hogan.
I gotta come up.
Listen to me, Savage.
Not Michael Savage.
Randy Savage.
Damn it, I can't do a wrestling combo.
jordan holmes
What about Dan Savage?
dan friesen
I wouldn't want to call him out.
I'm trying to...
Luger.
jordan holmes
The gun?
dan friesen
Lex Luger.
That's not great.
Listen to me, Sting.
Not the musician.
I was talking about the wrestler.
jordan holmes
How long is this going to go?
dan friesen
There's a lot of wrestlers who have the same name as something else that comes up in the night.
jordan holmes
I really don't know what's going on here.
dan friesen
Nash!
jordan holmes
Crosby!
Listen up, Crosby!
Stills!
Nash!
Young!
dan friesen
This documentary, when I did the hours and hours of research on Endgame, It, to me, was, like, a kind of fun adventure.
Like, I was learning, ah, he's lying about this, lying about this.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
With this, it wasn't fun.
It was gross lies.
It was just demonstrably easy lies to find out, like, oh, no, that's not true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The others, like, in Endgame, like, I had to read books to find out, like, what he was talking about.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, the Black Hand and, like, Gavrilo Princip starting World War I. I found that fucking awesome.
That was super fascinating.
Nothing in here really was all that fun, which is why I had to go on these side roads learning about like...
Goddamn Louie Gohmert and all the bills.
jordan holmes
I liked learning about Louie Gohmert.
dan friesen
All the bills that Ron Paul has ever suggested.
jordan holmes
I liked learning about all the bills that Ron Paul did.
dan friesen
No, it's fun, but that's what I had to do.
jordan holmes
It's nice to learn that Ron Paul's life has been a complete and abject failure on all counts.
dan friesen
Achieved almost nothing except almost taking over Domenica as a white nationalist state.
jordan holmes
Isn't that amazing that you can fail that successfully?
dan friesen
Documentary, I can't put it in more simple words, is trash.
It sucks.
There is almost nothing in it that's true.
Over the course of the last however many hours that we've been doing this, all these episodes, I have found almost nothing in it that is actually true.
And I'm not talking about true in the bigger sense.
I mean true when they were making it.
Like, when they were making this, they had to know they were lying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's no way around that.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Like, there are things like, you know, a couple times throughout the documentary we found, like, moments where it's like, oh, no, that's really terrible, like, that you're clearly, you're obviously misrepresenting something.
But that instance that I found of Alex clearly pushing...
A doctored photograph of the service.
jordan holmes
That was fucked up.
dan friesen
Like, that sort of thing.
When I find stuff like that, I don't enjoy that.
You know, like, I find that and I'm like, I'm like, you suck, Alex.
Your job.
Is to do better.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I understand that he's not a truth teller.
It's not like he's telling.
jordan holmes
No, he's specifically the opposite of them.
dan friesen
He's a propagandist.
jordan holmes
He's a lie teller.
dan friesen
He's a propagandist.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I'm not expecting him to come to the table with, like, a good documentary.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I expect him to come to the table with something that's going to be a challenge.
And granted, this took me a lot of time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
To put together.
But it really didn't take that much work.
In quotes.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It really didn't.
There were 100, 200 things to look into, but each of them were like, no, no, no.
That's absolutely misrepresentation.
This is sloppy.
jordan holmes
It's like transcribing a half-hour recording where it's like...
I know I'm only typing a half hour, but I have to pause every five seconds in order to type out this.
dan friesen
Because the person's like misspeaking.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's entirely frustrating.
And, you know, I mean, we talk about this all the time.
It's like, all our job is, to some extent, is to be Watchmen on the Wall, who are characters in Jack Posobiec's Game of Thrones.
jordan holmes
When do we say that?
When do we talk about that?
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
I was just trying to bring it back up.
jordan holmes
When have we ever said that?
When have we ever said that?
dan friesen
What we do is we look at what Alex is saying and assess it and try and make it fun.
It's just bad.
It's just sloppy.
And to see the degeneration from Endgame to this, it's only a few years.
And the lack of care that he put into that.
Like, with Endgame, it's not good.
It sucks.
No, it's terrible.
It's a documentary.
jordan holmes
No, it's terrible.
dan friesen
But there's more slickness to it.
There's a product to it that did belie professionalism.
In this documentary, he repurposed clips multiple times.
He reused stuff from Endgame.
He used the same score from Endgame over again.
And multiple times had his voiceover not match what's on screen.
That's clunky as fuck.
jordan holmes
He's a propagandist.
dan friesen
He's got to do better.
jordan holmes
I'm going to give you two Leonard Maltin critiques and then a Jordan.
Alright.
One?
Too long.
Could have cut 25 minutes out of it.
dan friesen
Oh, no doubt.
jordan holmes
Leonard Maltin all day.
There is literally no movie that Leonard Maltin has ever reviewed where you didn't say you could cut about 25 minutes.
dan friesen
But I also think that that's pretty...
Take Leonard Maltin out of it.
I think that's pretty true of almost all movies, too.
I know.
jordan holmes
See, you're a curmudgeon as well.
dan friesen
I think you could tighten.
jordan holmes
This is why you and Salenti are...
Though you disagree on many things.
Spiritually?
dan friesen
With movies and stand-up, I just say tighten it up.
Tighten it up.
jordan holmes
And trends.
dan friesen
Tighten it.
jordan holmes
Two.
Why am I watching this?
dan friesen
I'm sure you're asking that all the time.
jordan holmes
Now, for me, the personal moment where I was like, oh.
You don't give a fuck.
Is when he gave the list of people on the CFR and the Trilateral Commission.
dan friesen
And Bilderberg.
jordan holmes
And he's got all those graphics.
And it's clear he had somebody make the graphics.
dan friesen
Probably Jacobson.
jordan holmes
In like a fucking PowerPoint.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because that's what it looked like.
It looked like PowerPoint presentation.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
100%.
jordan holmes
And even then, it takes five minutes.
It takes five minutes.
To alter a PowerPoint presentation with information you have.
Even to the point where like three days before you release it, you still could have gone in and been like, oh, I'll just put this shot instead of this one.
dan friesen
And that specific example is even someone who was never in consideration for national security.
They were director of national intelligence.
So there's no reason for you to have ever made that slide.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
They just fucked up.
It's just sloppy.
It sucks.
And then even beyond the, like, sort of technical aspects, it's just...
I don't know.
I don't know.
I know that's a fundamental aspect of Alex's cosmology, his worldview, and stuff like that.
But when we're forced to talk about, like, when he makes us talk about the Federal Reserve, it just becomes, like, the illusion of...
This is fun kind of wears away from me.
You know, because it becomes so much like...
You're lying about this intentionally.
jordan holmes
Learning about the Federal Reserve was one of my favorite parts.
unidentified
I'm sure.
jordan holmes
I really enjoyed it.
dan friesen
It was great.
I think it's valuable for our listeners because I think a lot of people don't know about that.
jordan holmes
I didn't know a lot about how the Federal Reserve worked on account of I didn't care.
But now I do.
dan friesen
There's a chance that a lot of people...
jordan holmes
I don't really, but I know about it.
dan friesen
There's a chance that a lot of people went to a website, clicked a link, was like, I don't want to read this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So it's good to know those things, and I think there's value to that.
jordan holmes
Like when you're watching this...
It is so much like a guy almost standing outside of a junior high civics class and going like, you don't want to learn about all that bullshit, man.
You want to learn about what's cool.
Come with me and I'll teach you about the real history.
dan friesen
I'll show you the truth.
jordan holmes
And it's like you're just training a generation of people who are dumb.
Who avoid ever learning reality.
That's what Alex...
Alex is a...
Pied Piper for avoid reality.
dan friesen
Yep.
Except instead of taking rats like the Pied Piper, he's taking good people who could do better.
jordan holmes
The Pied Piper eventually took kids, though, too.
dan friesen
Oh, that's true.
jordan holmes
I forgot about that part of the story.
Pied Piper was a...
The bad guy in that story?
dan friesen
Yeah, I forgot about that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he was evil.
dan friesen
Yeah, never mind.
I take that back.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is the Pied Piper.
jordan holmes
No, he's super the Pied Piper.
dan friesen
Forgot about that.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Wait, you forgot about the Pied Piper?
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
The main part of his story?
dan friesen
Really?
Just thought he was about rats.
I thought he was sort of the equivalent of, like, St. Patrick with the snakes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
Very different.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, no, totally.
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
Who would make a legend about a guy who just got rid of rats really well?
dan friesen
There are worse stories.
Anyway, Jordan, I love you.
Thank you for doing this.
jordan holmes
I love you too, Dan.
Thank you more.
dan friesen
This is a huge burden for you.
And I don't mean that flippantly.
We did this all day.
This is nuts.
We're ending recording here.
Now it's 1 a.m.
Yeah.
We've been sitting in this room since noon.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the first one was nine hours, and now we have gone 13. Yeah.
jordan holmes
We really blew it out.
dan friesen
I really thought it was going to be nine.
jordan holmes
We really blew it out for the end of season two.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Stop it with the season talk.
jordan holmes
Dan!
unidentified
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan!
jordan holmes
Dan!
What's my name?
I really don't remember.
dan friesen
Jordan?
Yes.
I don't know.
I really feel like I want to give some sort of a bow on this.
I feel like I'm rambling a tiny bit.
jordan holmes
You're so rambling.
dan friesen
So I want to say this.
jordan holmes
Here's our bow.
dan friesen
No, here's my bow.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
My bow.
I deserve this because I spent goddamn hours researching this.
jordan holmes
You do deserve it.
I'm going to give it to you.
dan friesen
When you look at this, just from an external viewpoint, if you look at Alex Jones' documentary...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What you find is multiple fake quotes that he's using and at least one instance of a doctored photograph that he's using to smear Obama and at least one instance of him using a smear that was used in the 2008 campaign against Obama, which he should know better by this point as evidence.
If you take everything else out of it, all the other dumb nonsense...
That alone should be disqualifying in terms of this being something he should put out.
Those are editorial problems.
Anybody who worked for our business, let's say the Huffington Post.
Let's say Alex made this documentary for the Huffington Post.
This wouldn't clear the lawyers.
They would be like, no, absolutely not.
We're taking on liability if you put this out.
Someone's going to be like, hey, factual inaccuracies here.
You're using a smear.
You doctored that photograph.
Or if you didn't, tell me where you got that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, my bow is...
This documentary sucks balls, and it should never have been made, I guess.
Or, if you're going to make it, spend more than a couple weeks on it, I guess.
I don't know.
unidentified
I'm done.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's just profoundly bad at being what it is.
Like, even, like, that's the thing that bums me out.
dan friesen
Like, as a propaganda piece.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like, look, I get what you do.
dan friesen
It's ineffective even as bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're making up quotes.
Awesome.
You're throwing in doctored photographs.
Great.
Keep on going.
You're throwing all these people together who don't belong together.
Awesome.
dan friesen
You're pretending people are in groups they aren't in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you are doing great.
But do a good job of that.
Don't throw in footage from your other documentary.
Don't get people's names wrong.
Don't get people's group name wrong.
Don't throw people who are in there in the wrong place.
Just tighten it up, man.
If I was a DP on this film, I could make it one...
This was like an hour and 50 minutes long.
Should have been an hour and 10. Right.
Two, could have tightened it up so well.
It would have run hard, would have run fast.
There would have been a clear through line of like, this is this, is this, is this.
dan friesen
It didn't keep jumping around.
jordan holmes
It was so rambling, I still don't know what the movie was about.
dan friesen
Well, it's called the Obama Deception.
jordan holmes
Was it about Obama?
dan friesen
It was about the deception.
jordan holmes
What is the deception?
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's the Federal Reserve.
But all the stuff he's talking about, the Federal Reserve.
jordan holmes
So then is it the road again?
I don't know.
dan friesen
I don't know either.
jordan holmes
I want to do a director's cut.
dan friesen
I think what this comes down to, and I think both of our complaints can be synthesized into this, do some quality assurance work.
Don't put this out.
This is bad.
And if you're going to put this out...
Because you've got to rush to market because Obama's hot or whatever back in 2009.
jordan holmes
Even though you're giving it out for free.
dan friesen
But he's still trying to fucking sell it.
jordan holmes
And Obama's not going to be around.
dan friesen
But he still made a lot of money on it.
Sure, fine.
Even though he's putting it out for free, a lot of dum-dums still paid for it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
But even if that's the case and you've got to rush it to market, then what you do is, after that, take your time, make a better version.
And then put that out as the Obama Deception Redux or something like that.
This is just trash.
jordan holmes
This is trash.
dan friesen
Trash.
Alex, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Go fuck yourself.
You pile of garbage.
This is your life's work and it is nothing.
jordan holmes
Dan, do you know what isn't trash?
dan friesen
Our website.
Oh, shit!
jordan holmes
What's that?
That's transitions coming out of nowhere.
That's transitions coming out of nowhere.
dan friesen
That is our website.
We have Twitter, knowledge underscore fight.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's weird to do this at the end because...
jordan holmes
We're going to cut this up into like eight episodes?
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
No, this is 12 hours long.
It's going to be like 12 years.
dan friesen
Let's find a way to make it five.
jordan holmes
Just cut it up so one part of this isn't each episode.
dan friesen
Listen, the rest of my work is making this five episodes.
So my work's not done.
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
You go to Facebook!
dan friesen
If you're someone who has found the show this week and all that, we appreciate that very much.
jordan holmes
You poor bastard.
We love you.
dan friesen
If you're going to our website, or I'm sorry, our Facebook, Knowledge Fight on Facebook, what you should do is go to our group.
Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant is the name of the group.
If you request to join, we will let you in.
I don't like really posting much on the normal Facebook page, because who gives a fuck?
Most of the action goes on in the group.
jordan holmes
For the large influx of new listeners, go to the group.
They will give you guidance on how to deal with whatever it is we do.
dan friesen
And so many of the people in the group are the people who made this happen, and we thank them so much.
I guess Thanksgiving was yesterday, so happy Thanksgiving.
jordan holmes
Yeah, maybe.
dan friesen
Forgot about that.
But, yeah, we love you all.
Thank you so much.
But, Jordan?
jordan holmes
Do you know what, Dan?
Neither of us.
Against all odds.
Against all odds.
Died tonight.
dan friesen
That's true.
It was close.
It was touch and go.
jordan holmes
It was touch and go.
But I know one night.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
One man.
dan friesen
It might have been during the day.
jordan holmes
Probably technically died.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
And Alex Jones did it.
dan friesen
Technically?
jordan holmes
Probably.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
dan friesen
Hello, Alex.
unidentified
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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