Today, Dan and Jordan enter the home stretch, episode 4 of their coverage of Alex Jones' 2009 "documentary" The Obama Deception. In this installment, we pick up on a cliff-hanger and learn about how insane Ron Paul's brother is, then learn a little bit about Ron's career in the House of Representatives. It's not all Paul family stuff this episode though, there's also some historical revisionism and more made-up quotes.
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
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| I'm Dan. | ||
| The voice you will hear shortly is my co-host, Jordan. | ||
| We are two dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. | ||
| You have joined us here on Part 4 of our coverage of Alex Jones' Very loosely described as a documentary film, The Obama Deception from 2009. | ||
| If you haven't listened to the rest of the episodes, I recommend you go ahead and go back and listen to those before jumping into part four, because we are starting this episode off on a cliffhanger. | ||
| Oh, oh no! | ||
| I left you hanging yesterday, and I'm sorry about that, but today I promise it is all worth it once we get into this. | ||
| You will see. | ||
| I give thanks. | ||
| For this fun that we will have here today where we make fun of Ron Paul and his family. | ||
| Maybe not the best thing to do on Thanksgiving. | ||
| Making fun of people's relatives. | ||
| But, eh, oh well. | ||
| It's Alex who put him in the documentary. | ||
| It's his own fault. | ||
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| enough of that nonsense. | ||
| It's time to get to this cliffhanger. | ||
| So, without further ado, I give you... | ||
| Part 4 of the Obama Deception. | ||
| While at the In the Fed rally outside the Federal Reserve Bank in Dallas, Texas, we spoke with Ron Paul's brother, Wayne Paul. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| No! | ||
| In 1913, the Federal Reserve Act was passed, floor of the House, where three members of Congress were on the floor. | ||
| At that time, they only needed a majority of votes to pass it. | ||
| So in 1913, the Federal Reserve Act was passed. | ||
| Jordan, two completely unacceptable, unforgivable things just happened in this documentary. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Number one, Ron Paul's brother just said that the Federal Reserve Act passed with just three members of Congress on the floor. | ||
| And two, Alex Jones didn't fact check that at all before allowing this to be in his dumbass documentary. | ||
| I... | ||
| I'm going to be honest with you. | ||
| That whole, like, the Federal Reserve Act passed with just three members on the floor, I just let that one go. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I was just like, that's so silly and stupid and nonsensical. | ||
| And it's coming from Ron Paul's brother. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, it just passed in. | ||
| Here's what I was thinking while Ron Paul's brother was talking. | ||
| Where'd you learn how to talk? | ||
| That's the only thing. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| The only thing I was thinking was like, I don't understand the words you're saying because nobody ever taught you how to speak words. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So here's the deal. | ||
| The myth surrounding the passage of the Federal Reserve Act is that evil sneaky forces waited until Christmas break. | ||
| It's a Christmas miracle! | ||
| It's a compelling story. | ||
| And it's definitely inspiring to a lot of weirdos out there who don't want to pay taxes. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But it's complete bullshit. | ||
| The first time... | ||
| That what could be described as the Federal Reserve Act was proposed was June 26, 1913. | ||
| The primitive bill didn't go far, and an approved version was introduced on August 29, 1913, under the name H.R. 7837. | ||
| It was debated, and on September 18, 1913, it passed the House. | ||
| When it went over to the Senate, it ran into some problems, and an amended version was sent back to the House. | ||
| This inability to come to a consensus continued until December 22, 1913, when the House agreed to the conference version of the bill, and it passed by a vote of 296 to 60, with 76 not voting. | ||
| Three to zero. | ||
| The next day, the Senate voted on this version of the bill, the conference version, and it passed with 43 yays and 25 nays, with 27 not voting. | ||
| How do you feel about that? | ||
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I'm alright. | |
| I got it. | ||
| The people in the House who didn't vote don't really matter. | ||
| The bill was still going to pass no matter what. | ||
| What was up with the Senators who didn't vote? | ||
| Well, here's the deal. | ||
| Polio! | ||
| It was 1913! | ||
| It was Christmas break! | ||
| Right. | ||
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No, I got that. | |
| So someone could look at the tallies at the Senate and say, hey, wait a minute, if all 27 of the people who didn't vote voted against the bill, it wouldn't have passed. | ||
| They could have stopped it. | ||
| I get the sense that this is where Alex's argument comes from, that Ron Paul's brother is completely misrepresenting to say that three people were on the floor, which is so goddamn historically inaccurate, and demonstrably so. | ||
| It's embarrassing. | ||
| Like, what is he saying? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That is nowhere even close to truth. | ||
| In 1913, three people were on the floor and 18 dogs voted. | ||
| You know, the congressional record is all available online. | ||
| You can find all of them. | ||
| You can't trust that. | ||
| It was written by bears. | ||
| By the Jews. | ||
| Bears walked into the door and they became Jews. | ||
| That's where Jews came from. | ||
| So I get the sense that maybe that 27 not voting in the Senate is where some of the kernel is. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| That's bullshit, too, though. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| The way Congress works with votes that are happening during times when people are likely to be on vacation is that members of Congress try really hard to help each other out. | ||
| One of the ways they do that is to plan what's called announced pairs of people who will skip votes without affecting the outcome of the vote. | ||
| We saw this happen in the Kavanaugh confirmation when Lisa Murkowski, who was opposed to the confirmation, agreed not to vote so that Steve Daines, who was in favor of the confirmation, could attend his daughter's wedding. | ||
| There's like a congressional courtesy. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Don't be a dick. | ||
| When it doesn't matter, you're against it. | ||
| I'm for it. | ||
| You need to go to your daughter's wedding. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| So all these people who are like, I was going to vote against it. | ||
| You want to go on break. | ||
| I live in D.C. or something like that. | ||
| I will agree to go together. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| It's almost like people are people. | ||
| Yeah, so what happened in the vote to pass the Federal Reserve Act is, and it's spelled out very clearly in the congressional record, it's this. | ||
| For the Senate vote, there were 13 announced pairs of senators who agreed to offset each other's vote, so they just decided we wouldn't show up for Christmas, which accounts for 26 of the 27 non-voters. | ||
| There's only one vote unaccounted for, which means that even if all the senators voted, the bill... | ||
| That guy was in Africa hunting the most dangerous game of all at the time. | ||
| There's no way to call this a fraud without just making stuff up, which is what Ron Paul's brother is doing here. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Wait, are you saying that somebody from Ron Paul's family is saying crazy, unfactual shit? | ||
| There's a lot of ways to... | ||
| We talked about earlier, there's a lot of ways to talk about the problems of the Fed that aren't based on this stupid bullshit. | ||
| Like, if you're putting this in your documentary and not being like, huh, it might be embarrassing for me to put my name on a video of someone saying there's three people who voted on the Federal Reserve Act without looking into it. | ||
| Like, what are you doing? | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| That's a big reason why a lot of the other stuff that he was like... | ||
| He was just like, I'm gonna punt on this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because things like this. | ||
| Like, if you allow this in your documentary, I don't give a fuck about anything you're saying. | ||
| So wait, did it pass two to one? | ||
| No! | ||
| No, I mean in his fake version of it. | ||
| Well, you need a majority. | ||
| Or was it... | ||
| You need a majority, so... | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Three to zero, two to one. | ||
| Was it unanimous? | ||
| Three to zero, two to one. | ||
| The only possible... | ||
| Okay, fine, fine. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| Regardless of the facts. | ||
| Give me three names! | ||
| Oh, that'd be great. | ||
| Give me the three names of the people who voted. | ||
| If you know so fucking much about this, give me the three names of the people who voted. | ||
| It's not hard to remember if you imagine that only three people voted, you should know their names! | ||
| Pete, Greg, and Dutch, get out, get bent. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Alright, well, you won. | ||
| Wayne Paul. | ||
| You're the next Ron Paul. | ||
| Ron Paul's brother is full of shit. | ||
| Like, to an nth degree. | ||
| Like, I understand that he might believe that. | ||
| There's no way you can believe that. | ||
| He might be senile. | ||
| I have no fucking idea. | ||
| Okay, that's true. | ||
| I don't know anything about Wayne Paul. | ||
| Do you know everything about Wayne Paul? | ||
| I don't know everything about Wayne Paul. | ||
| We can't do a podcast about it. | ||
| We'll never do it. | ||
| I can conceive of some version of he's convinced himself that that's true. | ||
| But it's not. | ||
| I suppose. | ||
| The historical record shows that that's not true. | ||
| And in order to prove that it is true, you need extraordinary proof that what you're saying is true. | ||
| He offers no proof of it. | ||
| Like, the simplistic... | ||
| Like, okay. | ||
| They want to believe that the Federal Reserve is evil, and they're willing to lie in any way to make that argument. | ||
| I know, but even if you're stupid... | ||
| And I don't mean that in the pejorative term. | ||
| I mean more ignorant, or more like... | ||
| Less interested in following up on shit. | ||
| If you have even the most cursory knowledge of American history, there's no way that you're going to be like, are you saying that a major bill that changed the course of American history was passed by three guys? | ||
| Well, and also, is that in the House or the Senate? | ||
| Because it would have to pass both. | ||
| No, it was passed by two guys in the House and one guy in the Senate. | ||
| So that would be the three. | ||
| That would be, like, the biggest story ever. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| No, you would read about that every fucking day. | ||
| The other... | ||
| And then the coda to that would be, like, a week later, everybody got together and were like, no. | ||
| We're not gonna accept a three-dudes vote bill. | ||
| The other 400 representatives and the other, I don't know, 99 senators would come back and be like, alright, we're kicking these three people's asses. | ||
| Exactly, right? | ||
| Somebody would be straight up... | ||
| Look, this was in 1913. | ||
| People were still, like, trussed up in feathers and shit. | ||
| Also, consider the narrative that they're putting forward, and that is that Woodrow Wilson wanted this bill to happen. | ||
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Right. | |
| So obviously, even if they passed it unscrupulously, he would have signed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But... | ||
| That level of other senators and house representatives could have vetoed his signing of the bill. | ||
| I don't understand, Dan. | ||
| Teach me about civics! | ||
| Oh, this is so crazy, stupid. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Like, that's what I was teasing earlier. | ||
| Like, the idea that Ron Paul's brother believes this is advocating it in this documentary and Alex didn't cut it out. | ||
| Because he should have cut that out. | ||
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Oh, hell yeah. | |
| This is so dumb. | ||
| That's a crazy idiot. | ||
| Stupid. | ||
| That's a dumb guy. | ||
| He has just demonstrated that Ron Paul's brother is borderline... | ||
| Incompetent. | ||
| Borderline? | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| He might be able to feed himself. | ||
| That's your border for competence? | ||
| That's worse than KRS-One's metaphor. | ||
| Oh, that's way worse than KRS-One. | ||
| It makes me so much more concerned for his well-being. | ||
| If you believe that, you're willing to... | ||
| Go to an end-of-the-fed rally and try and convince other people that that's true. | ||
| You are far gone. | ||
| What you do not know is that Wayne Paul can spit hot bars. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I am not joking. | ||
| I also should say I feel really bad about this, but I didn't look into whether or not Wayne Paul is still alive. | ||
| He might be dead. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| He doesn't have a Wikipedia page. | ||
| What a shock. | ||
| He has a Wayne... | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Where are we at? | ||
| Wayne Paul has more... | ||
| Are we still doing this? | ||
| Wayne Paul has more to say. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Why? | ||
| 20 years later, 1933, under Roosevelt, the United States was declared bankrupt. | ||
| And in 1933, the Federal Reserve private bank said, OK, USA, what are you going to pledge as collateral? | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| What happened by 1936? | ||
| What are you fucking talking about? | ||
| We instituted social security system. | ||
| And you and I and our children and our children... | ||
| Oh, he's had a stroke. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| He's had a stroke. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Real quick, he's not done talking. | ||
| He may have had a stroke. | ||
| No, he's done talking. | ||
| No, he's not in this documentary. | ||
| No, I know, but he's done talking. | ||
| He may or may not have had a stroke, and I do feel a little bit bad on that approach. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| But at the same time, sounds exactly like Ron Paul. | ||
| Like, not just in vocal quality, saying similar things. | ||
| True. | ||
| So if they both had a simultaneous stroke... | ||
| Ooh, that'd be a fun show. | ||
| But even if he did have a stroke, he's still being used as a propaganda tool in Alex's documentary, so we still have to rebut what he's saying. | ||
| You know what, though? | ||
| He's got those old man glasses from the 70s that you've got to respect. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, also, he has more, but that idea that we are pledged as collateral through Social Security, all that shit. | ||
| That makes zero sense. | ||
| It's a foundational sovereign citizen belief. | ||
| So far... | ||
| All of what he has said is fantastical on a level that I wouldn't believe in a novel. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| In any kind of fictional universe, I'd be like... | ||
| That's fucking dumb. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Move on. | ||
| Are you seriously going to tell me that a legally binding resolution was passed through both the House and the Senate by three total guys? | ||
| Meaning all of American history, the Constitution, etc. | ||
| All of that has been invalidated by three fucking dudes? | ||
| That's it? | ||
| That's all it took? | ||
| Three dudes? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Agree with this? | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| He also doesn't think black people should be allowed. | ||
| It took three years to make this country bankrupt, and since then, our government has operated under emergency powers of our government. | ||
| It is not the president that makes the decision in this country. | ||
| It's the Secretary of Treasury who turns around and has put in there... | ||
| By the Federal Reserve to manage the bankruptcy. | ||
| We've been in bankruptcy ever since. | ||
| So to print $700 billion and to give it away, how do they get away with it? | ||
| The manager of the bankruptcy is told by the Federal Reserve this is the way to go. | ||
| That's where we're at today. | ||
| If you were listening carefully, you can hear Alex giving an interview to somebody else in the background. | ||
| He's like, we got Ron Paul's brother here. | ||
| Yeah, I heard that. | ||
| So, what he's talking about here in terms of the bankruptcy of the United States, I had a strong suspicion, but I looked into it and I found this is definitely what he's talking about. | ||
| He's talking about the Emergency Banking Act of 1933. | ||
| It doesn't declare the U.S. bankrupt at all. | ||
| That's just something that gets repeated over and over again on sovereign citizen message boards with no proof. | ||
| I tried to look into this more to understand the... | ||
| prove that the U.S. went bankrupt in 1933. | ||
| Happened to also be the kind of websites with the word Jew in really scary letters at the top of the page. | ||
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Right. | |
| Oh, I get a real vibe off this. | ||
| The font version of the hard jet. | ||
| Yes, yes, absolutely. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
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Most of the arguments that are on these pages also rely very heavily on a forgery of a speech allegedly made by Jim Traficant in the Senate in 1993. | |
| Jim Trafficking, if you don't recall, was convicted of 10 felony counts, including accepting bribes, racketeering, and tax evasion back in 2002, which led to him being one of the first people to be expelled from the House in, I think it was in 20 years, the first person in 20 years to be expelled from the House of Representatives. | ||
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Good work. | |
| And sent to prison for 17 months. | ||
| Steve King! | ||
| King was re-elected, and that guy is expelled. | ||
| Well, I mean, he was up to some real serious bribe taken. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| Whereas opposed to, like, white supremacy is mid, like a... | ||
| It's just tasteful. | ||
| I mean, I was supposed to be like a misdemeanor. | ||
| Fun fact, though, after Jim Traffkin got out of prison, he did an interview with Project Cam a lot. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, we're going to do that one sooner. | ||
| No, we're not. | ||
| I watched it. | ||
| It's too boring. | ||
| Oh, damn it. | ||
| Yeah, I would have loved to do that. | ||
| Aliens? | ||
| Not a lot of aliens. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| It's unfortunate. | ||
| What's the point? | ||
| Anyway, a lot of this stuff is really fun to think about for a little bit that Ron Paul's brother is bringing to the table. | ||
| But really, all I come away with is the realization that, like, the Paul family might not be all that smart. | ||
| And they might be deeply involved in like really weird sovereign citizen beliefs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And also, I can't stress this enough. | |
| What he's expressing about the idea that the U.S. went bankrupt in 1933 is almost entirely, if you look into it online, almost all sources lead back to this speech that Jim Trafficking gave on the floor in 1993. | ||
| And it's a forgery. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| So the guy who was the first guy to be expelled from the house for 20 years is used as an example to prove that the American government has been bankrupt for 70 years. | ||
| And he didn't even do that. | ||
| Well, but the reason that he's used is the same reason that people go back to Abraham Lincoln and apply these words to him that he never said. | ||
| It's a different strategic tactic. | ||
| They used Jim Trafkin because he committed a whole bunch of crimes and got expelled from the house and sent to prison. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So they can use him as like, no, he was expelled. | ||
| That's why. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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I got that. | |
| Because he got on the floor and said that he dared to speak the truth that we've been bankrupt since 1933. | ||
| When you can go and read the Emergency Banking Act, it doesn't say that we're bankrupt at all. | ||
| Conspiracy theorists are so similar to women who fall in love with, like, Ted Kaczynski. | ||
| Yeah, you know, it's like, no, no, no, you guys just don't know him the way I do. | ||
| He would never have committed that crime. | ||
| But I feel much more for them than conspiracy theorists. | ||
| It all could be resolved with just a slight amount of reading. | ||
| Not even that! | ||
| Just think for one second. | ||
| Alright, so based on what you're saying, the government has been operating under emergency powers through the Treasury Secretary... | ||
| Managing the bankruptcy. | ||
| ...for 70 years. | ||
| There's no way that could have been kept secret for two years? | ||
| Max? | ||
| Knowing what I know about human beings? | ||
| I mean, there's a lot of people who have been in and out of the house really quick. | ||
| They can be like, oh fuck, you know what I mean? | ||
| Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And second, at a certain point, if everything's going fine, you would have just been like, oh yeah, by the way, this is how we're doing it now. | ||
| Like, if nobody notices, it's not an emergency. | ||
| True. | ||
| Like, you can't be operating under emergency powers for 70 years. | ||
| That's just status quo powers. | ||
| No, I understand that, but it's the same thing that, like, Larry Nichols does with talking about, like, the FEMA provisional government and stuff like that. | ||
| It's just official-sounding terms. | ||
| And the reason emergency powers are so appealing is because it relates back to the Emergency Banking Act in 1933. | ||
| So, like, it has this, like, well, it was an emergency then, and then that, heck. | ||
| And now it's fine. | ||
| So it's just fine. | ||
| Right, but it's not. | ||
| It's just fine. | ||
| Yeah, but it's fine. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Even if what you're saying is true, it's been going on for 70 years and everybody's kind of been fine. | ||
| The only things that have changed is black people are allowed to vote now. | ||
| And they don't like that. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| That may be our main issue. | ||
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Yes, we should point out! | |
| Congressman Ron Paul now has a huge amount of sponsors for a bill in the House of Representatives to abolish the private Federal Reserve Crime Syndicate. | ||
| Everyone's cheering, having a great time. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| So on March 17th, 1999... | ||
| I like his FBI glasses. | ||
| Alex is wearing FBI glasses like a motherfucker right now. | ||
| So on March 17th, 1999, Ron Paul announces H.R. 1148 with no co-sponsors. | ||
| To end the Federal Reserve. | ||
| It dies in committee. | ||
| Oh yeah? | ||
| In 1999. | ||
| Oh yeah? | ||
| But Alex Jones is now coming out here and he's saying, we've now woken up the world. | ||
| So on February 3rd, 2009. | ||
| I can't imagine why he didn't have any co-sponsors for that bill. | ||
| In 1999 though. | ||
| Destroy the economy bill. | ||
| HR 11443. | ||
| That was in 99 before everyone woke up. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So now on February 3rd, 2009. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ron Paul. | ||
| It announces HR 883 to end the Federal Reserve. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| With no co-sponsors. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| It dies in committee. | ||
| I don't understand why. | ||
| Ten years later, Alex is out there with a bullhorn. | ||
| He's got so many sponsors. | ||
| He has no co-sponsors. | ||
| So, Jordan. | ||
| Even Ted Cruz's shitty shit as a co-sponsor. | ||
| Not always. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| You dig into people's record who are in Congress, and you start to realize a lot of them are fucking wasting time. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And I looked into... | ||
| No, there's a reason that they deserve a 9% approval rating. | ||
| I accidentally learned too much about Ron Paul's bills that he sponsored in doing this research, so I want to tell you a little bit about some of them. | ||
| I should tell you that on May... | ||
| Pay for my bill at Applebee's. | ||
| H.R. 99444. | ||
| So on May 8th, 2012, Ron Paul introduced H.R. 1094 to end the Fed. | ||
| No co-sponsors. | ||
| Died in committee. | ||
| How long was the bill, though? | ||
| Oh, not that long. | ||
| Is he literally just giving out bills that are like... | ||
| End the Fed. | ||
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Period. | |
| He's just copy and pasting what he did. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| So on February 8th, 1983, Ron Paul introduced H.R. 875 to end the Fed. | ||
| No co-sponsors. | ||
| He was still... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| We gotta get rid of these people. | ||
| Ron Paul does this every year. | ||
| We need to vote Ron Paul out. | ||
| The same way every year. | ||
| Interestingly though, Ron Paul has a lot of weird, quirky bills that he's introduced over the years. | ||
| In 1979, he introduced... | ||
| Ducks are people now! | ||
| Might as well. | ||
| Might as well. | ||
| In 1979, he introduced H.R. 2310, seeking to repeal OSHA. | ||
| He doesn't mean the occupational safety... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He was actually talking about... | ||
| He just misspelled OSHA. | ||
| He's trying to repeal oceans. | ||
| Let's drink the oceans. | ||
| If everyone works together, we can drink the Atlantic. | ||
| Saltwater vampire bill. | ||
| That one got no co-sponsors and died in committee. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The same here. | ||
| This is 1979. | ||
| He introduced House Joint Resolution 572, which stated, quote, a joint resolution congratulating the men and women of the United States space programs and of the industry's businesses and educational institutions supporting them who have developed a new field of technology to promote and preserve the free enterprise system, the acquisition of knowledge and freedom. | ||
| This seems fucking innocuous as hell as a resolution. | ||
| Yeah, that seems fine. | ||
| It got no co-sponsors and died in committee. | ||
| So if I understand correctly, Ron Paul's tenure in Congress has essentially been one giant group of people saying, leave us alone! | ||
| I get the sense everyone hated him. | ||
| Yeah, everybody hated him. | ||
| Because that is so just like, hey, space people are great. | ||
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| And it's not binding. | ||
| It's not saying we do anything. | ||
| It's just congratulating them. | ||
| And the House is like, I'm not into that. | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| So he fucked around. | ||
| I don't even want to give you the appearance of me accepting you being a thing. | ||
| So at some point he fucked around and tried to repeal the National Flood Insurance Act of 1968. | ||
| He did get a triple-double, though. | ||
| And the Flood Disaster Protection Act of 1973. | ||
| Both did not work out. | ||
| No co-sponsors and diet committee. | ||
| In 1983, he proposed H.R. 4984, which was titled, quote, a bill to prohibit the use of funds for the Peace Corps to be used for travel expenses of individuals in order for abortions to be provided for those individuals. | ||
| I don't understand what any of that even means. | ||
| So he just doesn't want to fund people in the Peace Corps who are traveling to get abortions? | ||
| I guess. | ||
| He doesn't want to fund people who are in the Peace Corps who have had abortions to then travel. | ||
| No, specifically... | ||
| Is he worried that menstruation brings bears? | ||
| I don't understand what the point of this is. | ||
| Specifically, the language of the bill is specifically so you can't have money if you're in the Peace Corps to travel to get an abortion. | ||
| I don't understand if that's a problem! | ||
| I don't either. | ||
| Has that even ever been a thing? | ||
| In 83, that was a crisis. | ||
| So Ron Paul introduced that legislation. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Reagan? | ||
| No co-sponsors. | ||
| Died to commit. | ||
| In 1979, Ron Paul tried to repeal the Soil and Water Conservation Act. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No co-sponsors. | ||
| We need to get rid of soil and water. | ||
| I hate it all. | ||
| I've been following up on this ocean bill, and no one's paid attention, so now it's time to bring the land into this. | ||
| It's all silt from now on. | ||
| Sediment or fuck yourself! | ||
| He did some fucking quirky-ass shit while he was in office. | ||
| So here's the deal. | ||
| Ron Paul was in the House from 1979 to 1985, and then again from 1997 to 2013. | ||
| A total of the two tenures of 25 years. | ||
| And according to the official congressional bill tracker... | ||
| There's only one bill that he sponsored that ever became law. | ||
| And it was in 1920... | ||
| I'm sorry, 1929. | ||
| It actually might make more sense if it was in 1929. | ||
| In 2009, and the bill... | ||
| All it said was, quote, to authorize the Administrator of General Services to convey a parcel of real property in Galveston, Texas to the Galveston Historical Foundation. | ||
| That's all he ever achieved of his own volition in 25 years in the House of Representatives! | ||
| Now, he did co-sponsor a number of bills, but those are bills that other people put forward that he just put his name on. | ||
| The fact that he has had 25 years in Congress, that record, to me suggests America gets what they get. | ||
| We have Trump coming to us. | ||
| It's our fault. | ||
| It's pretty crazy. | ||
| It's not Trump's fault. | ||
| Look, guys, we have it coming. | ||
| It's time for the chickens to come home to roost. | ||
| I think what it is is also an indication that a lot of these bills that he knew were never going to get out of committee were things that he did to grandstand in order to appeal to... | ||
| And he would go home back to his base and he'd be like, I told them that we need to turn dogs into dogs but have dogs on top of those dogs and those dogs are going to become hot dogs. | ||
| We're going to get the government off your neck and I'm the one working for you to do it. | ||
| I'm glad my... | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| We don't want no oceans in Arizona, I'll tell you that right now. | ||
| It's such a good scam. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| You really look at it and what did Ron Paul achieve other than confusing a lot of people about the Federal Reserve in 25 years in office? | ||
| He got one bill passed as a law. | ||
| I know, but even in life, what did he accomplish? | ||
| I mean, I'm sure he's a great-granddad or something like that. | ||
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Really? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, if his kid is Rand Paul, I really don't think so. | ||
| That is a great point. | ||
| His brother is Wayne. | ||
| We already met him. | ||
| Yeah, he's a terrible great uncle, if that's what you're going to go with. | ||
| Look, I don't like to talk about people's personal lives, but we've had a couple of his family members who are relevant. | ||
| I think Ron Paul might have been a complete failure as a human being. | ||
| Has anybody considered whether or not Ron Paul is a complete and utter failure as a human being? | ||
| Hey, you know what, too? | ||
| I looked through all the bills he ever sponsored. | ||
| I didn't see anything about legalizing weed or anything like that. | ||
| The stuff that he's supposed to be on the vanguard of. | ||
| He might have co-sponsored something that someone else put forward. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Or something like that. | ||
| But he never introduced legislation in order to be like, hey, let's get these trees flowing. | ||
| Or anything like that. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| All the things that we think of him as real positive for him. | ||
| I didn't see that in his record. | ||
| Look, if I died tomorrow, I'd be like... | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| At least we did the show. | ||
| I feel like we did something good. | ||
| I feel like we made something that will, you know, at least affect some people's lives. | ||
| At least I'm not a complete and utter failure like Ron Paul. | ||
| Ron Paul might have a podcast. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I bet it's bigger than ours. | ||
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In 1913... | |
| Kucinich can suck it. | ||
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The money power of the country was taken away from the people... | |
| Kusuck it, Kucinich! | ||
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...by constitutional... | |
| Wait for it. | ||
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Wait for it. | |
| The Federal Reserve Act. | ||
| Wait for it. | ||
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The Federal Reserve is no more federal than Federal Express. | |
| Hold on. | ||
| Everybody get down. | ||
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What a dick. | |
| We start to be in a position of being able to control monetary policy. | ||
| On behalf of the United States people. | ||
| If you put the Federal Reserve under the Department of Treasury, what you do is allow whoever is in power to control everything about the monetary system. | ||
| Can't understand. | ||
| That is not a healthy way to do this. | ||
| Don't understand. | ||
| So, like, all these people who use these fallacious arguments, fucking Dennis Kucinich is here on the floor saying that stupid, the Federal Reserve is no more federal than the Federal Express line. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, you know, what he's advocating for is specifically the ability of whoever is in power to completely manipulate the financial system. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| Which is what I would never want to be the case. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| But Dennis Kucinich does look like two six-year-old boys standing on top of each other wearing a suit. | ||
| So there is that. | ||
| Also, I know this is weird. | ||
| I know people who are listening to the podcast can't hear this. | ||
| He's got a good pocket square, too. | ||
| I think I have that tie. | ||
| The Federal Reserve is totally private, and Alan Greenspan two weeks ago on PBS on Lear NewsHour said, on record, that they are above the law, the Congress, the President, everyone. | ||
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No court can do anything. | |
| We run America. | ||
| I am above the law! | ||
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What is the proper relationship, what should be the proper relationship between a Chairman of the Fed and a President of the United States? | |
| Well, first of all, the Federal Reserve is an independent agency, and that means basically that... | ||
| Boo! | ||
| Go suck Ayn Rand's balls, you fucker! | ||
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...which can overrule actions that we take. | |
| So long as that is in place and there is no evidence that the administration or the Congress or anybody else is requesting that we do things other than what we think is the appropriate thing. | ||
| Then what the relationships are don't frankly matter. | ||
| So what he's saying there, you know, fuck Alan Greenspan all you want. | ||
| Hate him all you want. | ||
| I do. | ||
| And I will. | ||
| But that's secondary to the issue at hand. | ||
| Alex is saying that he went on this PBS show with Mick Neal. | ||
| God rest in peace, Lair. | ||
| But he's saying that Alan Greenspan came on and said that he's above the law. | ||
| That is not what he's saying. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's explaining, basically. | ||
| That on a day-to-day basis, the Congress and President do not dictate the actions of the Federal Reserve. | ||
| That's a specific feature of the public-private nature of the bank, to make sure that no political force would be able to dictate monetary policy. | ||
| Would Alex prefer the President have, like, complete control over the monetary system and be able to tell them what to do? | ||
| Is that a preferable system to him? | ||
| Doesn't he realize how easy that would be to turn into, like... | ||
| Exactly what we talked about over and over again. | ||
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This is nonsense. | |
| What Alan Greenspan is saying there isn't that we're above the law. | ||
| It's a cherry-picked quote. | ||
| But also what he's expressing is that as long as they're not asking us to do anything inappropriate, it really doesn't matter what our relationship is. | ||
| We exist as our entity. | ||
| It's bullshit. | ||
| Yes, it is absolute bullshit. | ||
| Greenspan is saying the Federal Reserve is beyond the law. | ||
| And in reality, they are in practice beyond the law. | ||
| Nobody, as far as I know, has ever audited the Federal Reserve. | ||
| Except everybody who ever has. | ||
| So the first things we ought to do when we nationalize the Fed is go in there and find out the audit. | ||
| Real quick, just keep in mind that he just said... | ||
| We are going to nationalize the Federal Reserve. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Keep that in mind for later. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Who stole money? | ||
| Who engaged in corruption? | ||
| There's a whole series of people going back to Volcker, to Greenspan, to Bernanke, and so forth. | ||
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Think of the arrogance of private group of banks. | |
| Think of the arrogance. | ||
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By design, so they can repo the country. | |
| A private group of banks that loaned us our own money back are telling us they're above the law. | ||
| You are not above the law, criminals. | ||
| No one is above the law. | ||
| No one is above the law. | ||
| The private fellow reserve sure as hell isn't either. | ||
| Since the founding of the Federal Reserve back under Woodrow Wilson... | ||
| The Federal Reserve has struck out three times. | ||
| They didn't stop the crash in 1929. | ||
| They didn't stop the banking panic of 1932-1933. | ||
| And now they are the cause of the derivatives crisis. | ||
| So this is about Obama, right? | ||
| Derivatives on the world with Alan Greenspan. | ||
| So I want to be fair to the presentation of this is the Obama deception, but it is... | ||
| Supposedly about the people behind the scenes. | ||
| Obama's puppet. | ||
| So now we've just gotten into this is about the Federal Reserve and all that shit. | ||
| We've already dealt with... | ||
| Very foundational misunderstandings that they have about what the Federal Reserve is, what they do, what their history is, what the history of the Federal Reserve Act is, what quotes people have said about centralized banking. | ||
| They've fabricated two quotes already. | ||
| Now, in this case, Webster Tarpley is saying that the Federal Reserve is evil and it must go because they've failed to stop two crashes and maybe caused one over the course of 105 years since they've been around. | ||
| I mean, then, you know, he's not making a serious argument, if that's what he's bringing to the table. | ||
| Dan, I wonder what number of crashes and financial panics occurred prior to the Federal Reserve. | ||
| Well, it's nuts to think about the exact number, because it's nebulous. | ||
| A lot of different sources will give you a lot of different answers. | ||
| It's regional, it's concurrent. | ||
| There were ongoing depressions that had, like, Big panics within the singular depression. | ||
| The financial climate... | ||
| Or it'd be like... | ||
| Massachusetts is fine, and Maine is on fire. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| The financial climate before 1913 was one of constant chaos, with crashes happening way more frequently than we've seen since. | ||
| In the 23 years between 1884 and 1907, the economy was basically in a constant state of depression, with six distinct severe panics along the way. | ||
| The myth of the financial paradise that was uprooted by the creation of the Federal Reserve is exactly that. | ||
| It's a myth that's told around campfires by paranoid anti-government propagandists. | ||
| And look, I have no vested interest in the Federal Reserve examinations. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| I think it's done a good job, but if it didn't, I would be totally fine saying that. | ||
| I looked into these things, and they're all bullshit. | ||
| I would be on their side, and I would tell you that. | ||
| Like, I would say, and the Fed, if they weren't fucking lying. | ||
| Honestly, at this point in my research of this stuff, I'm close to fed up. | ||
| That was a pun. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
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Instead of talking about goods and services and real problems, I'm not going to give you nothing. | |
| I'm not going to give you nothing. | ||
| These guys, the private fellow reserve that masquerades as a government entity, who controls the issuance of currency and credit, they're the ones that have cut off the liquidity in the market. | ||
| They told us have a debt-based economy. | ||
| Then they cut it off once they get us under their thumb and implode the economy so they can consolidate it. | ||
| That's what they're doing right now. | ||
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I mean, it's in their own documents. | |
| It's in their own statements. | ||
| Bring those out in public then. | ||
| It's so frustrating when you can so clearly... | ||
| This happens in so many conversations where you're talking to somebody and they're saying shit like that and they're like... | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| You know two things, and you know nothing else, and none of that provides any context to what you're saying, and you're just wasting my fucking time. | ||
| You know two things! | ||
| Learn more things before you talk to me! | ||
| But the other problem is that we know too many things, and when we hear Alex say something like this, the idea that they're trying to bring things down so they can consolidate and buy everything up, that all traces back to the fraudulent story derived from literal Nazi propaganda about Nathan Rothschild using secret information about Napoleon at Waterloo. | ||
| We know Alex believes that story is true. | ||
| He's expressed it on multiple occasions. | ||
| He brought it up in Endgame. | ||
| He talks about it all the time. | ||
| It's not true. | ||
| So it's hard not to see what he's saying here, and imagine that that's just an archetype of how he thinks these globalists, in quotes, they work, and it applies universally. | ||
| When the facts on the ground don't apply that way. | ||
| So when I hear him say this stuff, I'm like, and there's Wayne Paul in the background, by the way. | ||
| How you doing, you crazy old bastard? | ||
| It just to me is like, oh, that's the archetype you believe in. | ||
| That's what you think the M.O. is, but that's just based on Nazi propaganda. | ||
| I don't know what to do with this except to say... | ||
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The Fed was actually built out of the blood of Congressmen. | |
| That's where the other 78 senators went. | ||
| And we'll get the economy going. | ||
| But they're hoarding the money and buying up other banks that aren't part of the Federal Reserve, buying up insurance companies, buying up roads, infrastructures, media empires, defense contractors. | ||
| What the banks do is they implode an economy by cutting off credit. | ||
| And then once things really fall to a low, and they know the low because then they buy everything up and start then putting more money back into the economy. | ||
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Same shit. | |
| And then they build it back up. | ||
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So they build us up and then shear us. | |
| Build us up and shear us. | ||
| And they're getting ready. | ||
| All over the world, they're always shearing some country and floating it. | ||
| It comes out in their own IMF and World Bank documents. | ||
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That's just the foreign arms and same cartel. | |
| And these are the people who claim to be the saviors of the economy, the people who have created every important crisis in the past hundred years. | ||
| Prove it. | ||
| Federal Reserve. | ||
| So it's illegal, it's unconstitutional, and it's a failure. | ||
| And I think the failure is what everybody can see right now. | ||
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Yeah, what they do is... | |
| Do what now? | ||
| What? | ||
| I don't know what part of the Constitution... | ||
| Is he talking about it? | ||
| I think he just wanted to say Constitution. | ||
| I think it was just sort of like, it seems like the right time to bring that up. | ||
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Yeah, doesn't it? | |
| What part of the Constitution are you fucking talking about? | ||
| When does the Constitution directly discuss banking? | ||
| I think Webster Tarpley looked at his watch and was like... | ||
| It's time to bring up the Constitution. | ||
| It's been a while. | ||
| It's unconstitutional? | ||
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I don't know what... | |
| What do these people actually think the Constitution... | ||
| For all of the people who carry around, like, a pocket Constitution, have any of them ever actually read that fucking shit? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's probably the same as the people who read those, like... | ||
| New, modern language versions of the Bible. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Those pocket constitutions are probably like, they have bro in them and stuff like that. | ||
| They'll make it really modern. | ||
| We gotta update it for the kids. | ||
| We gotta get the kids involved in the Second Amendment, bro. | ||
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Evil and running things. | |
| Then, oh, Bush will save us. | ||
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And then, oh, Bush was evil. | |
| Now we'll be saved by Barack Obama, but he's just a puppet. | ||
| Puppet. | ||
| You puppet. | ||
| Me puppet. | ||
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I got it. | |
| I'm saying he says puppet a lot. | ||
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I get it. | |
| I'm just saying I got it. | ||
| Hegelian dialectic here. | ||
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Take a breath, for God's sake! | |
| You don't get an award for most words in a row! | ||
| It is really funny, too, to look at the faces of the people around him. | ||
| They're mostly bored. | ||
| They're just like, I just want to be in the background of this shot that Alex is shooting. | ||
| Either that or there's one woman. | ||
| On the far right side of the screen who is looking off into the middle distance listening to him talk just going like, do I really want to be here? | ||
| Also, if you look at this crowd, there's probably one non-white male and one woman. | ||
| I did see a non-white male somewhere. | ||
| I think you're reflecting back to hours ago when we saw an African-American dude behind Jim Tucker. | ||
| Yeah, never mind. | ||
| The other 290-something million Americans. | ||
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And so this is classical fascism. | |
| The communists also do it. | ||
| Any vertically integrated command-to-control authoritarian system You're throwing words at a wall! | ||
| ...what the same group of banks did in Germany. | ||
| Russia. | ||
| You know, it's in the Communist Manifesto to have a private central bank. | ||
| Where? | ||
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Because the private central bankers actually wrote the ideas that they had Marx and Engels put out. | |
| People go, well, why would the banks want communism? | ||
| It doesn't exist. | ||
| They rape us. | ||
| They consolidate us. | ||
| They put us into work brigades. | ||
| They make us slaves. | ||
| And they say, it's a people's paradise. | ||
| Look at it. | ||
| Boy, you're really doing good. | ||
| And then... | ||
| I'm going to pause here for a second just because this is all... | ||
| So far, it's just been Alex sort of rambling about nothing. | ||
| This is a lot of words with nothing else going on. | ||
| I'd ask him to prove a lot of the things he's saying. | ||
| But the important thing there that he brought up is about the Communist Manifesto. | ||
| Marx does advocate for a central bank. | ||
| Do they advocate for a private central bank? | ||
| They advocate for a central bank to be nationalized. | ||
| I really don't think that Marx was into private central banks. | ||
| A state-run... | ||
| Nationalized central bank. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| It's number five in the list of measures to implement. | ||
| So he wasn't a big fan of a private central bank. | ||
| Quote, centralization of credit in the hands of the state by means of the national bank with state capital and exclusive monopoly. | ||
| That's one of the measures that will help bring in the society that he's working towards. | ||
| Now, I would like to quote Webster Tarpley from earlier in this documentary. | ||
| Quote, one of the first things we ought to do when we nationalize the Fed is go in there and find out the audit. | ||
| Webster Tarpley. | ||
| Webster Tarpley is a commie. | ||
| He's advocating for nationalizing the central bank, which is a tenet of the Communist Manifesto. | ||
| A good idea is a good idea. | ||
| I'm not saying it's not, but I'm saying look at this bullshit. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Does Alex not realize that that's in his documentary? | ||
| He is complaining about the idea that this Communist Manifesto talks about central banks, but the context in which it does is the exact same as what Webster Tarpley is advocating for. | ||
| Central banks have existed since the Dutch started getting creative in the 1600s. | ||
| It's not an idea that was created by the Communist Manifesto. | ||
| I like that just as a sentence. | ||
| They kind of got creative. | ||
| Central banks have started since the Dutch started fucking around with life. | ||
| They mixed it up a little. | ||
| Who knows what's up with the Dutch? | ||
| They started mixing it up. | ||
| Maybe we get a little bit of a central bank going on. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| They had some innovative ideas. | ||
| In the early 1600s, they had some sort of primitive ideas about central banking. | ||
| And then towards the 1660s... | ||
| It was interesting to me that the nascent idea was the Dutch, and then the first sort of universally accepted central bank was also the Dutch. | ||
| I thought maybe they would come up with the idea and then someone else would improve on the concept, but they were like, nah, fuck it. | ||
| We're going to do it. | ||
| I am not going to be 100% on this. | ||
| I'm very worried. | ||
| If I do remember... | ||
| Seems like you're about to get racist about the Dutch. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I'm actually saying the opposite. | ||
| Like, the way that European history goes, it's like, people say that the Dutch were the first people to have a central bank, and I do not think that's true. | ||
| Well, I should tell you... | ||
| I think in modern the West, that's true, but if I... | ||
| I really don't think they're good. | ||
| I should tell you that their reserve currency was wooden shoes. | ||
| Well, stick your finger in a dike. | ||
| Can't use that language anymore. | ||
| I understand everyone's sensitive. | ||
| PC culture on campus. | ||
| All right, Dan. | ||
| All right, Dan. | ||
| That's why Seinfeld doesn't get work anymore. | ||
| The idea of a central bank wasn't introduced by the Communist Manifesto at all. | ||
| It was just something that... | ||
| Made sense. | ||
| It worked in the past. | ||
| Were it to be nationalized is something that Marx thought was an important pillar of communist society. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, more importantly, I'll wait until Alex proves to me that the unnamed private bankers he's talking about wrote the Communist Manifesto were behind it. | ||
| Although, this just stinks of anti-Semitism. | ||
| He thinks it was true. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| That sort of declaration to me, and I know it seems like we're just flippantly throwing around anti-Semitism, but the reason that... | ||
| Yeah, if you're a new listener, and this is your first experience with us and Alex Jones, we have several hundred episodes proving definitively so much anti-Semitism is going on. | ||
| Sure, no, there's no reason to think that he's not deeply influenced by anti-Semitic beliefs, but the reason that this one strikes me as particularly... | ||
| I can't find any evidence that it's true. | ||
| And I, again, can't prove a negative. | ||
| So I can't go to all of these myriad historical resources about the writing of the Communist Manifesto, Marx history, Engels history, and then provide these documents to you that definitively show There weren't unnamed central bankers that Alex is not being specific about that were around somewhere. | ||
| He's always going to move the goalposts and stuff like that. | ||
| But the reason that it feels anti-Semitic is because, number one, like I said, I don't think it's true. | ||
| I don't see any evidence it's true. | ||
| And the patriot world is absolutely chock-a-block with people who believe that bankers... | ||
| Are a Jewish conspiracy. | ||
| And with people who believe that communism is a secret Jewish plot. | ||
| So the idea that Alex is suggesting that bankers were behind communism all along is a weird confluence of those two beliefs that are very prevalent in the community that he's from. | ||
| So that intersection doesn't seem like a coincidence to me. | ||
| It's very troubling. | ||
| I think the thing that I think about with the anti-Semitic underpinnings of so much of this is And not always, because a lot of times it literally is straight up anti-Semitism. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The thing that I think about is whether or not they're anti-Semitic, or if they've recognized how effective this anti-Semitic propaganda has been against Jews, on account of several thousand years of people getting one propaganda about Jews and then... | ||
| all the pogroms and genocides and shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And we're like, oh, this would be a great idea to use against people of all non-white. | |
| So it's sort of the idea of like riding the wake. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Drifting. | ||
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Like, hey, man, this worked so good for the Jews. | |
| What if we did it for all non-whites? | ||
| What's good for the goose is good for the gander. | ||
| I really don't think that applies in this way. | ||
| But okay. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
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wait. | |
| They transfer all the wealth of the nation offshore. | ||
| The globalists are outside all the nations. | ||
| That gives them safety. | ||
| And they play countries off against each other. | ||
| And so that's what we're facing and dealing with. | ||
| And so they're bringing in classical, hardcore tyranny in the U.S. But we have the Internet. | ||
| We've grown our numbers. | ||
| The alternative media has exploded. | ||
| That's why they're trying to move in to shut down and regulate and tax the Web. | ||
| But it's too late for them. | ||
| They're playing in the 19th century, 20th century rules. | ||
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It's the 21st century. | |
| The century of resistance to tyranny. | ||
| And so it's going to be one hell of a fight with the people. | ||
| Something important to note right now. | ||
| That guy right there. | ||
| Yeah, I was thinking, I was fixating on him a lot. | ||
| There's a weird hippie behind Alex. | ||
| I was fixating on him a lot. | ||
| But he's a weird, specific kind of hippie. | ||
| He's so specific. | ||
| He's not like a wavy gravy hippie. | ||
| He's like a low-key but also very obvious hippie. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The other thing. | ||
| While all of these people are around Alex Jones. | ||
| Zero people are nodding in agreement. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Most of them are looking off in different directions. | ||
| No one is reacting to what he's saying, and anybody who is paying attention, like, if you look right now, there is that dude looking directly at the camera. | ||
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This fella? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Looks pissed! | ||
| Well, I think that it's probably a collection of real angry dudes. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| With the exception of a few women who are there, it's mostly angry dudes. | ||
| But nobody's in support. | ||
| Who goes to an End the Fed rally other than angry dudes? | ||
| I know, but nobody's in support of Alex. | ||
| No, they are. | ||
| There's no positive. | ||
| Tacitly, I suppose, but not in reality. | ||
| No one's in support. | ||
| Where you would be like, yeah! | ||
| Nobody is throwing a write-up. | ||
| Let me say. | ||
| Let me say. | ||
| If I was there, and I liked what he was saying, I would constantly be doing, get him! | ||
| Of course! | ||
| I would be his hype man. | ||
| If I was that guy with the shades, if I was weird Chris Moneymaker standing behind him. | ||
| That is weird Chris Moneymaker. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| Now we're in 2000 for sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Free humanity on one side and the New World Order on the other. | |
| And every one of you out there counts, needs to be involved in this fight like nothing you've been involved. | ||
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Go fuck yourself. | |
| How many years has it been life and death so far, Dan? | ||
| All of them. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Kyron. | ||
| An important announcement from Alex Jones is coming up in just a moment. | ||
| Let me make this clear. | ||
| That Kyron was played underneath Alex Jones. | ||
| While he was talking! | ||
| So during his entire speech, it's important that you know that in just a moment, something he says is important. | ||
| Which he should... | ||
| I mean, what he's saying right now should be deemed important. | ||
| You would think it's part of the important thing. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| There's an important announcement coming up. | ||
| In a moment? | ||
| You have no idea. | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
| This is an ad pivot. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
|
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Fuck you. | |
| Worldwide darkness. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| And a new age of tyranny and oppression. | ||
| You still have no idea. | ||
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Or a new age of liberty and freedom and a new renaissance. | |
| We can tell you what's going on. | ||
| You can check it out for yourself and find out it's true. | ||
| I have. | ||
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It's not. | |
| Investigate now. | ||
| Get involved now. | ||
| Go out there and reach out now. | ||
| We don't have time. | ||
| If you're looking for the solution... | ||
| Look in the mirror. | ||
| Look right into the mirror because you out there, men, women, old, young, black, white, doesn't matter. | ||
| It's going to be up to you. | ||
| Why do you only ever say black when it doesn't matter? | ||
| I think we know why. | ||
| I think we know why. | ||
| These are cold-blooded people who think they're God, think that they're our masters, that think that we're animals. | ||
| These are the guys that funded Lenin and Stalin and Hitler. | ||
| Take a breath, dude. | ||
| These are the guys, it's all on record, that bankroll this stuff. | ||
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They are hardcore, vicious, and they must be resisted. | |
| You're watching the Obama Deception. | ||
|
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No! | |
| You son of a bitch! | ||
| But I wanted to take some time out in the middle of the film. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| I knew it. | ||
| I knew it was an ad pivot. | ||
| To go to Infowars.com and purchase. | ||
| Real quick. | ||
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There we go. | |
| Real quick. | ||
| Called it. | ||
| Called it. | ||
| This is an ad pivot, but it's a uniquely disgraceful ad pivot because he's about to say, you should purchase the DVD of this movie you're already watching. | ||
| You're in the middle of watching. | ||
| Which is crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When I saw this, I blurt laughed. | ||
| So hard sitting alone in my house. | ||
| I was like, you motherfucker. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| It's so you can watch it at home. | ||
| I mean, sure, we're watching it on YouTube. | ||
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At home. | |
| But what if you were in a cabin? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You couldn't show it to your friends if you were in a cabin. | ||
| No. | ||
| You don't have YouTube in a cabin. | ||
| You could very easily download it from YouTube. | ||
| There's those MP3 or, you know, MPEG. | ||
| Download this from YouTube. | ||
| You could easily rip it. | ||
| Alright, but what if the internet goes down? | ||
| But you could put it on a flash drive. | ||
| Okay, well what if flash drives fall apart? | ||
| That's a great question. | ||
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What if... | |
| Put it in the cloud. | ||
| Put it in the cloud. | ||
| Well, if the internet goes down, the cloud goes down. | ||
| I can't imagine that, like... | ||
| What if the only thing left in our media sphere is DVD players? | ||
| Do you want to live in a world where you can't watch Alex Jones on demand? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know that the world that I've created for myself is one where I constantly watch Alex Jones On Demand, but yes, I would like to live in a world where you can't. | ||
| I would love that. | ||
| The thing that's most attractive to me about being in a cabin is that he's not there. | ||
| The issue that I have with this is that it's so stupid. | ||
| I can't imagine a scenario where it's like... | ||
| But I mean, people are dumb, so whatever. | ||
| But I can't imagine watching this documentary and being like, I have to show people this. | ||
| To the extent that it's like, I got to buy the DVDs so I can go over to other people's houses and force it on them. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| Because they don't have the internet and can't just pull it up on YouTube. | ||
| Do, do, do, a woman assumption. | ||
| Click. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| It's crazy. | ||
| No, this is totally in studio. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| That I think Alex is correctly addressing. | ||
| If you were to send... | ||
| He's not getting money off this? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| If you were to send somebody a link to this and they weren't already interested in it, they would watch two minutes and they'd be like, boo. | ||
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Nah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But if you have a DVD copy and you take it over to your friend's house, they're a captive audience now. | ||
| Yeah, but that's more... | ||
| Now you got no chance. | ||
| That's more about... | ||
| Now you're inescapable. | ||
| That's about you being there, not the DVD. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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The DVD doesn't really help. | |
| But you need the DVD to make sure they know there's a physical reason to continue watching to the end of this. | ||
| I'll give you a physical reason. | ||
| Punch them right in the face and take their laptop. | ||
| PunchUpYouTube.com Obama deception. | ||
| Now it's free. | ||
| Alex doesn't get any money. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| We should sell a DVD copy of this entire watching of this documentary. | ||
| Oh, we probably should. | ||
| So we give it out for free. | ||
| We've fucked a lot of dogs in terms of not making money. | ||
| We have screwed up over and over again. | ||
| But finally, in 2018, we realized that DVD sales are the way to go. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| The video of Jordan and I sitting mostly, like, statically, not moving that much, and drinking a couple beers, watching the Obama Deception, will be out on Laserdisc in 2019? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I think we got this one. | ||
| This ad pitch is more than just trying to sell the DVDs. | ||
| This is weird, baby. | ||
| Just a high-quality DVD of the film. | ||
| Or you can go to PrisonPlanet.tv and download a high-quality DivX version to burn the disc or DVD to give to your friends, your family, your neighbor, and your community. | ||
| I also want to challenge all the viewers out there to take time out, to write notes as you watch this film, and to check all the claims that we've made for yourself. | ||
| I've written 50 pages of notes, typed, single-spaced. | ||
| I could not have taken more notes, Alex. | ||
| You suck. | ||
| Because I'm confident in the information presented here. | ||
| And I want you to not trust me, but to know for yourself, to know in fact that Obama is a betrayer and a liar, a Judas goat, a Trojan horse to bring in the one world government. | ||
| So again, I want to thank you for watching the Obama Deception. | ||
| You can go to Infowars.com and get a high-quality DVD or watch it in super high-quality and burn discs to give your friends, your family, your neighbors, and warn the public at PrisonPlanet.tv. | ||
| You already said that. | ||
| Now let's cut right back to the Obama deception. | ||
| Isn't it fucking hilarious that in the middle of his rambling speech in the middle of that and the Fed protest, that Chiron was like, warning. | ||
| Important announcement. | ||
| And that was that. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| What a slick asshole. | ||
| Anytime they describe the destruction of the monetary system, they're always following it up with. | ||
| And now you should participate in your very destruction by buying my DVD. | ||
| You should get poorer by $19 by buying my DVD. | ||
| And also, if you get too into me, you might get suckered into buying my friend's gold. | ||
| Buy some gold! | ||
| Up until about the Kennedy assassination and the beginning of the war in Vietnam, the United States... | ||
| This was already in the documentary. | ||
| This is just... | ||
| Yeah, didn't we already... | ||
| Didn't we already play this clip? | ||
| We're in repeats. | ||
| Didn't we already play this clip? | ||
| He already played this. | ||
| How did we... | ||
| How are we playing the same clip in a documentary? | ||
| Isn't that against the law? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Isn't there a documentary... | ||
| Make no mistake about it. | ||
| This is him. | ||
| Don't you remember HR 110001111111111111001? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Where it said, no, fucking, come on, Webster. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| It's not Webster's fault. | ||
| He just recorded this once. | ||
| Alex played it twice. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| It is a very powerful engine for world progress. | ||
| It's the assassinations, the Kennedy assassination, and the others in the 1960s, the beginning of the Vietnam War, and the beginning of the absolute domination of the Wall Street group over every other interest. | ||
| Nobody else counts except the Wall Street money masters. | ||
| That has now made the United States into no longer a force for progress, but something very different, often a force for destruction in the world. | ||
| That doesn't need to remain that way. | ||
| The interest of the American people is to fight to take your government back from Wall Street and make the United States a force for progress in the world, which we easily could do if we could just break the power of the people behind our wall. | ||
| So you're saying break the power of the people behind Obama, but there's nothing substantive there at all in terms of prescriptions for paths forward. | ||
| There is nothing in terms of the things that... | ||
| You know, Webster Tarpley or Alex or any of the people who are the supposed experts that are in this documentary, there's nothing that they're advocating for that is outside of just like, fuck all this! | ||
| There's nothing constructive really to it other than, I mean, I guess they would probably argue that audit the Fed is constructive, not recognizing the Fed's audited all the time. | ||
| Destroy the Fed! | ||
| They think that's... | ||
| No, let's just go with what that motherfucker said in that thing. | ||
| You mean my boy Spider Tarps? | ||
| Yeah, that motherfucker. | ||
| That, like, oh, America could easily be a positive force for the world. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| In your conception. | ||
| What do you think is a positive force for the world? | ||
| Because based on everything you've said so far, you want America to be a giant shitbag shitting all over the rest of the world. | ||
| At the same time, I'm deeply... | ||
| Relieved by the idea that he is not willing to accept Trump. | ||
| We know that. | ||
| We don't know that from the documentary. | ||
| We know that he is the sort of person who won't accept that. | ||
| So at least he doesn't think that that's what the world should become. | ||
| So at least there's a line. | ||
| So what I think is that we should nuke Iran. | ||
| But other than that, we will be fine. | ||
| We don't know that for sure, although probably. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| They all love... | ||
| Yeah, this guy's... | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Look, I don't know. | ||
| I never know what it is with these guys and their misunderstanding of the history of Iran, Iraq, like whether or not they know there are different countries, period. | ||
| Different branches of Islam. | ||
| Yeah, like this whole thing, like... | ||
| But I actually know Alex does. | ||
| Has anybody ever asked them to define the difference between Shia and Shiite? | ||
| Or Suni. | ||
| Yeah, exactly! | ||
| I know that Alex does know the difference because he's gone into it on his show before. | ||
| So I know that he can't be blissfully ignorant of that. | ||
| He does. | ||
| And the fact that he changes his position means like, oh, you're... | ||
| Cognizantly making a choice. | ||
| When Webster Tarpley says America being awesome, you're right. | ||
| That's also vague. | ||
| Everything is vague. | ||
| It's all nonspecific and just in service of this shit's bad, we should do better. | ||
| Whatever the guy is doing, I don't like because I don't like the guy. | ||
| But also this isn't partisan. | ||
| Oh, it's a non-partisan. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you're Democrat or Republican. | ||
| This is non-partisan. | ||
| Anyway, back to George. | ||
| This is... | ||
| It would be nice if they opened it with like, this is purely non-partisan. | ||
| Oh, they did. | ||
| This is racial. | ||
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| We love white people. | ||
| I bet Alex did do that in the first take. | ||
| And they were like, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Edit that out. | ||
| Put the violin back in. | ||
| Take two. | ||
| The main banks of Europe, which were started by Adam Weishaupt and Rothschild, the Bank National de Paris. | ||
| This is a big problem. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Adam Weishaupt, he's the guy who started the Illuminati. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He didn't start any goddamn banks. | ||
| No, he started the Illuminati, which is a bank in and of itself. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| It was a secret society that existed from 1776 until 1785 and then was disbanded because everyone's like, fucking stop it. | ||
| He had nothing to do with banks. | ||
| Boo! | ||
| He was trained as a lawyer. | ||
| He had nothing to do with banks at all. | ||
| So the idea that George Humphrey is coming in here and expressing this idea that he and the Rothschilds started this bank, I know where he's getting that from. | ||
| Where is he getting that from, Dan? | ||
| He's getting it from a 1991 book that was written by Pat Buchanan called The New World Order. | ||
| Pat Buchanan noted not racist, nor homophobe, nor... | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Wait, Pat Robertson, he probably hates all of the things that these guys hate together. | ||
| Pat Buchanan wrote this book. | ||
| I apologize for saying Pat Robinson. | ||
| I meant Pat Buchanan. | ||
| Pat Robertson also is a mess. | ||
| Yeah, Pat Robinson. | ||
| It's weird how many Pats suck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a slim crew of Pats. | ||
| I guess there's Pat from SNL. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The ambiguously gendered person. | ||
| There's Saint. | ||
| St. Pat? | ||
| Patrick! | ||
| I know St. Pat! | ||
| Anyway, I know that this probably comes from reading that book, because that book relied on a bunch of sources that, if you look into it and find the... | ||
| Sources that those books pulled from, they were mostly things like the Protocols of the Altars of Zion. | ||
| And one of the arguments that was made in Pat Robertson's book was that... | ||
| Pat Buchanan's book. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You infected me. | ||
| I know! | ||
| I'm a Pat dispenser. | ||
| One of the things in that book was that... | ||
| Pat Buchanan was making the argument that Adam Weishaupt made the Illuminati, right? | ||
| Certainly. | ||
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Sure. | |
| That is true. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| History shows that. | ||
| True. | ||
| But when history says that the order was disbanded, in fact, what happened is they went underground and they met up and collaborated with... | ||
| European Jewish bankers. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| And by virtue of their collaboration, they started the Bolshevik Revolution and now exist as the CFR and that sort of thing. | ||
| So that's a piece of Pat Buchanan's literary career. | ||
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| The only reason I bring this up, and I think that Pat Buchanan's New World Order book is probably more relevant to Alex Jones than we've given credit to, but I think that there's a lot of sources before it that are much more relevant that we... | ||
| We pay attention to. | ||
| But the reason that it comes up here is because George Humphrey is clearly expressing that he believes that Adam Weishaupt was involved with banks and, like, starting banks, and he brings up the Rothschilds. | ||
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| And so to me, when I hear that, like, oh, the only real connection I really can think of with that is, because Adam Weishaupt had nothing to do with banking, that he does in Pat Buchanan's book anyway. | ||
| Bank of England, the Bank of Italy, have all financed the messianic and war leaders of the last 200 years. | ||
| Huh? | ||
| Napoleon. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Lenin. | ||
| 200 years. | ||
| Stalin. | ||
| Dan, when was Napoleon? | ||
| Adolf Hitler. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Was he 200 years before this? | ||
| Franklin Delano Roosevelt. | ||
| 200 years. | ||
| Backing right now Barack Obama. | ||
| Get a haircut! | ||
| He should get a haircut. | ||
| But, like, this is the perfect example of one of these things I was complaining about earlier, about the idea that these people just make extravagant, ahistorical claims, and then if you're like, no, they're like, prove me wrong. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, well, what do you want me to prove wrong? | ||
| The idea that Lenin got a bunch of money from the globalists? | ||
| Lenin was independently wealthy. | ||
| His family was super rich. | ||
| Independently wealthy because of the globalists. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He got some money from the Germans because the Germans wanted him to go back to Russia when he was in exile because they thought that he would disrupt the USSR, which was in their strategic interest. | ||
| But it wasn't that much money. | ||
| It was a pittance compared to... | ||
| Stalin had no reason to take fucking globalist money. | ||
| No, he was doing alright. | ||
| Yeah, doing fine. | ||
| He had a good run. | ||
| Doing fine. | ||
| In terms of Hitler. | ||
| Also, throw in all of the Western history you possibly can, because none of you know a goddamn thing about the history of anywhere else. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| Like, they always throw in, oh, well, Stalin and Hitler, and it's like, you know who's closest to Stalin? | ||
| We all know about palace intrigue at Chichen Itza. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like, oh, tell me how the fucking... | ||
| Joe Dynasty was doing during the globalist reign of terror. | ||
| Like, what the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| That is something that's super, like, that is actually probably more important than my complaints about this ahistorical nonsense, is that, like, all of this, they don't even give a fuck about any other history than, you know, white dudes. | ||
| Dan, who shares a border with Russia? | ||
| China. | ||
| Oh, does China share a border with Russia? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, are they really close to each other? | ||
| Oh, also Mongolia. | ||
| Oh, Mongolia does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Would you say that maybe those two histories are perhaps intertwined in a level that people should pay attention to? | ||
| What did the globalists have to do? | ||
| Never mind Hitler, Dan! | ||
| What did the globalists have to do with Genghis Khan? | ||
| I believe it was Genghis. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| They bought his horses. | ||
| I think it's a deeply salient point. | ||
| All of this history. | ||
| White people. | ||
| Even their negative history, it's white people. | ||
| It's all white. | ||
| Even their weird, deeply conspiratorial, ahistorical shit is all like, who gives a shit about what non-white people were doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The banking cartel had established a beachhead in 1913 through the Federal Reserve Act. | ||
| Was that an edit point? | ||
| In 1947, they set up a parallel shadow government through the National Security Act. | ||
| Oh, did they? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Prove it. | ||
| Don't you remember that? | ||
| From'47 on, the National Security State began the long process of absorbing federal and What? | ||
| How so? | ||
| By controlling the issuance of currency and credit, the private Federal Reserve was able to buy up Whoa! | ||
| When did that happen? | ||
| And if a company wouldn't sell, the bankers would unleash federal regulators to run them out of business. | ||
| Anybody listening to this who knows anything, I know that we're an hour and ten minutes into the documentary. | ||
| You should have turned it off earlier. | ||
| Oh, way earlier. | ||
| When he says that, you should be like, go fuck yourself. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| So does the Federal Reserve own most of the Fortune 500 companies? | ||
| He said the Fortune 500. | ||
| I don't think he recognizes that that's a term for the 500 most profitable companies each year. | ||
| The list comes out every year. | ||
| Yeah, so they bought all of them, including the ones that show up next year. | ||
| Can I tell you, buddy, my friend, a guy... | ||
| The Federal Reserve doesn't own any of those companies. | ||
| That doesn't sound right. | ||
| He just said that they own all of the Fortune 500. | ||
| They were able to buy up all of them. | ||
| Almost all of them. | ||
| And the ones that wouldn't play ball. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Regulators. | ||
| Warren G. came in and knocked them out of business. | ||
| What about Nate Dogg? | ||
| He was in the cut. | ||
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| Well, good. | ||
| I hope he gets his percentage. | ||
| So, look. | ||
| R.I.P. | ||
| What is Alex even fucking saying? | ||
| I have no idea! | ||
| Is he saying that the Federal Reserve owns the entirety of the American economy? | ||
| Well, if he's not presenting something he doesn't believe... | ||
| What about Aldi? | ||
| Does the Federal Reserve own Aldi? | ||
| I don't know if that's in the top 500. | ||
| I'm not saying it's in the top 500. | ||
| I just want to know. | ||
| Like, where's the cutoff point for the Federal Reserve? | ||
| Do they only go after the top 500? | ||
| Do they go further than that? | ||
| 501. | ||
| Talk to me next year, asshole. | ||
| Okay, now that I know that, now I'm fine. | ||
| So if he's not just making shit up, which spoiler alert he is, that would mean that the Federal Reserve owns Walmart, ExxonMobil, Apple, CVS Health, Amazon, AT&T, Ford, General Motors, and everything all the way down to Yum Brands and Western Union. | ||
| They own Yum? | ||
| They own Taco Bell. | ||
| And if he's saying that... | ||
| Oh, that makes KRS-One's Burger King thing make way more sense. | ||
| Yeah, now we got it. | ||
| Now that I know that the Federal Reserve owns... | ||
| You didn't say his taco's cold. | ||
| Okay, fair enough. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| They don't serve burgers. | ||
| Not since the Bell Beefer. | ||
| That's been a while since I've thought of that. | ||
| So if Alex is really saying that, who owns all this? | ||
| Because the chairman of the Federal Reserve... | ||
| Is he saying that that's who owns it? | ||
| Because that's a person who's appointed by the president who serves a term to be the chair. | ||
| So when they're in office, they own all these companies? | ||
| Is that what he's saying? | ||
| Now, see, this is where we're getting back to my earlier statement, that it has to be some dude who's like, in the middle management range. | ||
| He's got to be there. | ||
| He's not appointed. | ||
| He's not audited. | ||
| He's not confirmed. | ||
| There are 12 people who are relevant in the Federal Reserve. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Have you met Kevin, the owner of the Fortune 500? | ||
| No. | ||
| That's who Kevin is. | ||
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No. | |
| Kevin, the owner of the Fortune 500. | ||
| You mean the company that puts out the list? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's Kevin. | ||
| He owns it all. | ||
| So, like, legitimately, if he's saying that, like, the chairperson of the Federal Reserve owns these Fortune 500 companies, then they are... | ||
| Exorbitantly rich. | ||
| But then as soon as their term is over, then what? | ||
| They are no longer owners? | ||
| But then, maybe that's not the case. | ||
| Maybe he's saying that the abstract idea of the Board of Governors owns all these companies. | ||
| Okay, I can see that. | ||
| But that's complete and utter shit that he's talking. | ||
| Because, you know, he's just praying that his viewers don't realize how stupid the sentence, like, the Federal Reserve bought up the Fortune 500 companies. | ||
| They bought them up! | ||
| Because if the Board owned it... | ||
| Like, and it was, which they don't. | ||
| But if the board owned all those companies, then all of their profits at the end of the year would go into the treasury. | ||
| So, like, all of it would just go back into the government, which I think Alex would probably be pretty fucking stoked about. | ||
| No, it'd be terrible, because then the government would have all this money! | ||
| Right, but he is afraid. | ||
| But that's what the government does have. | ||
| Because the government bought up all of this. | ||
| But the problem is that the government is so deeply in debt. | ||
| We've been bankrupt since 1933. | ||
| If all the Fortune 500 companies' profits are being funneled back into the Treasury, which they would have to be if they're owned by the Federal Reserve, which they're not, then the deficit would be paid off in a year or two. | ||
| Look, the point being... | ||
| Maybe not a year. | ||
| As Alex stated, the federal government is the richest it has ever been. | ||
| It's also bankrupt. | ||
| And it's both simultaneously. | ||
| And they own everything, but they can't afford anything. | ||
| It's everything and nothing at the same time. | ||
| All of the profits are there. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| They're running a deficit, though. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And what else is there? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Oh, they don't make anything? | ||
| And we need to reduce the size of government? | ||
| And they should sell off the Fortune 500? | ||
| Is that what he thinks they should do? | ||
| They should sell off the Fortune 500 that they don't own? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I think you'd just be like, how dare you control all these companies, which they don't. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, look, here's the deal. | ||
| Like, real talk. | ||
| Big picture situation. | ||
| Root beer talk. | ||
| Knowing what we know and what we've gone over about the structure of the Federal Reserve, like, it's ludicrous to hear something like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thinking that they are a strictly private business for profit that takes all this money and they hoard it and I'm going to eat all these profits, you would think, oh yeah, maybe it's possible that they bought up all these companies and we live in a world where everybody is run by the Federal Reserve. | ||
| If you do those two steps that you've already talked about being so painful and boring and frustrating, if you make it through those two or three steps and get to the point where you understand what the structure of this actual private public business is, you would hear that sentence and be like, go fuck yourself. | ||
| You think you're an expert? | ||
| Alex presents himself as like he knows what he's talking about. | ||
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That can't... | |
| That's crazy! | ||
| Do you know what's even easier to do? | ||
| Dan, remember... | ||
| Just turn it off? | ||
| Remember... | ||
| Well... | ||
| Remember how much you said that the Federal Reserve made and how much they gave to the federal government? | ||
| Yeah, they gave 89% of it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They made $35 billion and gave $31.7 billion. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Dan, do you know how much money... | ||
| Four billion dollars. | ||
| Google makes every 45 minutes. | ||
| Roughly that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's crazy. | ||
| The Federal Reserve, based on what you just described, cannot buy nor sell the Fortune 4000. | ||
| No, it's the same thing with Alex talking about that Chinese billionaire who's like, he bought up all the Hollywood studios. | ||
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He couldn't. | |
| It's not possible. | ||
| It's absurd. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All this is like, he's just preying on people's ignorance and hoping that they don't have any spidey sense. | ||
| You know, any kind of like, uh, what? | ||
| Any Wilford Webster sense. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Any kind of instinct to be like, hold on, that sounds like bullshit. | |
| We have more to get through this documentary. | ||
| I don't care really to, like, debunk anything more he says. | ||
| Like, we've already had multiple fake quotes. | ||
| Him allowing fucking Ron Paul's brother to say that three people voted on the Federal Reserve Act. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| We've shown an explicit... | ||
| I mean, in a very literal sense, three people did vote on that act. | ||
| Well... | ||
| Sure, there were multiple others as well. | ||
| Many. | ||
| But from a very factual standpoint, yes, three people did vote. | ||
| We've also seen a complete misunderstanding and unawareness of how the Federal Reserve works. | ||
| A completely childish understanding of civics and how the government works. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Like, I just think... | ||
| The president can do whatever he wants and everybody can fuck off. | ||
| At this point, it's just like... | ||
| You shouldn't take anything he's saying seriously. | ||
| You shouldn't to begin with, but at this point... | ||
| It's Thunderdome, man. | ||
|
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I don't give a fuck anymore. | |
| Ladies and gentlemen, listeners of our podcast, we are at eight and a half hours in on the show. | ||
| We are at one hour... | ||
| And Dan has been broken. | ||
| We are at one hour and ten minutes and eleven seconds on the documentary. | ||
| And Dan's spirit has vacated his body. | ||
| Dan, it was lovely to know you. | ||
| I still have some funny things to point out, but I don't really give a fuck about any of his substantive claims. | ||
| Private central banks in Europe, the United States and England took taxpayer money. | ||
| A lot of people sitting around a desk! | ||
| Their third world puppets would sign agreements stating that when the country defaulted, the banks would be given all the natural resources and infrastructure of the once sovereign lands. | ||
| But worst of all... | ||
| The countries would pledge future taxes paid by the people in perpetuity as profit to the private banks. | ||
| That's a bad deal. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I need specifics. | ||
| I need specifics. | ||
| What countries is he talking about? | ||
| There's nothing here. | ||
| Oh, it's just they did this to third world countries. | ||
| It kind of sounds like he's just extrapolating on the white man's treatment of the Navajo. | ||
| Is that what you're doing here? | ||
| Or trying to repurpose colonialism's evils, but just blame something else. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| It's crazy that the thing that I benefit from most over history is now being used. | ||
| To benefit me again. | ||
| And he's putting this bullshit around about like, oh, they bring in a great central bank so that these third world countries are in debt and they have to pay taxes to... | ||
| You know there's a bunch of countries that have central banks that don't have income tax? | ||
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I don't understand. | |
| Which seems like a sort of counterexample to his argument. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Oman, that's one of them. | ||
| I've never heard of that. | ||
| United Arab Emirates. | ||
| Has a central bank. | ||
| That doesn't sound like a country. | ||
| Give me an IA or a Stan. | ||
| Brunei, I believe, is another one that has a central bank. | ||
| No income tax. | ||
| So there's counterexamples to even the system that he's talking about, but who gives a shit? | ||
| By the year 2000, there were few nations. | ||
| People sitting around a desk! | ||
| This is a stock photo. | ||
| Oh yeah, I see the Getty images in the bottom right. | ||
| The destruction of the Western nation's economies. | ||
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Fuck that guy! | |
| You're talking about Henry Paulson. | ||
| They first removed banking regulations. | ||
| Alright, hold on. | ||
| I am going to give him this. | ||
| He put up a picture of... | ||
| Clinton. | ||
| Yeah, but... | ||
| The lighting was especially nefarious. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It is Bill Clinton. | ||
| Sitting around a bunch of smiley-ass old white dudes. | ||
| And a bunch of smiley-ass old white dudes all laughing together. | ||
| Look. | ||
| I don't care if I'm on your team or not on your team. | ||
| That picture is nefarious as fuck. | ||
| No, very much. | ||
| That picture is, like, the epitome of, look at what we did to the minorities. | ||
| Like, that is an incredible picture of evil. | ||
| It's the sort of picture where I look at him like, nope, gotta go. | ||
| No, need you to die. | ||
| Goodbye! | ||
| Also, like, Alex, why are you complaining about getting rid of Glass-Steagall? | ||
| It's regulation on businesses operating. | ||
| Like, I don't understand. | ||
| Like, I really... | ||
| I don't mean this flippantly or just like some sort of, like, I'm pretending to not understand. | ||
| I don't get why he's mad that they got rid of Glass-Steagall, other than the idea that it very clearly led to bad things. | ||
| That's the only thing that I... | ||
| Because he hates regulation so fucking much. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's against it. | ||
| He's allergic to it. | ||
| Oh, it makes him upset at his stomach. | ||
| Yeah, at his stomach. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| He's now complaining about Glass-Steagall being repealed. | ||
| Because they don't believe anything. | ||
| They don't believe anything. | ||
| That's the part I'm pretending to not understand. | ||
| They believe nothing. | ||
| These people are vacuous, empty vessels for whatever nonsense it is that will get... | ||
| The Koch brothers to feel good today. | ||
| Either that or just sort of like, what can I score a good point on? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How can I get more... | ||
| How can I own the libs? | ||
| Well, that's now. | ||
| Back then it was probably like, how can I get more eyes on my product? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which will allow me to scare people more, sell more of Ted's gold, and I get a piece of the back end. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| This allowed their front companies to issue unlimited credit to the world and to set up colossal Ponzi schemes, the likes of which the world had never seen. | ||
| The scams were advertised by the controlled corporate media as completely legitimate. | ||
| Because of the fantastic returns, private investors, corporations, state and local governments invested heavily. | ||
| They had taken the bait, hook, line and sinker. | ||
| To destroy confidence, in late 2007, the bankers themselves began to badmouth the scams they had created. | ||
| Next, the central bankers cut off the tsunami of fiat money that they had been using to pump up the bubble. | ||
| When Congress and the public refused to write the finance oligarchs a blank check, the bankers began to engage in financial terrorism. | ||
| They said that the world would go into another Great Depression unless their demands were met, further destroying confidence. | ||
| The stock market instantly had its biggest one-day loss in history. | ||
| So, they had the biggest drop at that point in history, 777 points. | ||
| I assume it's never... | ||
| We've beaten that record three times in 2018. | ||
| The top three of all time drops in a single day. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Are you saying that... | ||
| I think it's meaningless. | ||
| It's probably nonsense. | ||
| But also Alex is like, oh, it's a globalist drop in the market. | ||
| So I don't know what to think. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So hold on. | ||
| So Dan, let me try and get a historical timeline, right? | ||
| So from the Fed's existence in 1913, which as we all know is a nightmare and a disaster and it should never have happened. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's like Friday the 1913th. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Actually? | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I think that was great. | ||
| I think it was great. | ||
| It's not as bad as I thought it was. | ||
| No, I like it. | ||
| It also shouldn't have taken you as long to think about it before congratulating. | ||
| It did take me a while before I was like, wait, that's terrible. | ||
| No, actually, I like it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A lot of my comedy goes that way. | ||
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I like it. | |
| Initially, boo. | ||
| You're not really a laughs comic. | ||
| No, no, certainly not. | ||
| I think history has shown up, which is why I've quit. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I'm more of a, huh. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Oh, you got it. | ||
| I'm more of a, ah, interesting comic. | ||
| Anyway, go ahead. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| You're way funnier than me. | ||
| Certainly with your Andrew Jackson bit, you stole from that guy. | ||
| But I put it on this podcast that he stole it from me. | ||
| So for posterity, we nailed it. | ||
| I don't think we can get sued for that. | ||
| What were you saying? | ||
| What was I saying? | ||
| Oh, 1913. | ||
| Federal Reserve. | ||
| Here at the living infamy. | ||
| Crashes. | ||
| All of the stock market destroyed. | ||
| It didn't. | ||
| In 1913, it didn't. | ||
| It laid waste to everybody for the hundred years since, or like 105 years. | ||
| Three times after that, there were some problems. | ||
| Three times. | ||
| Three times. | ||
| So that would be... | ||
| 105 years. | ||
| That would be 1929. | ||
| The Great Depression. | ||
| 1932 or whatever in the present day. | ||
| And then 1987 as well, right? | ||
| I think 1987... | ||
| Maybe, but Webster Tarpley didn't include that in his three that he... | ||
| Oh, that's odd. | ||
| You could include 1987 if you want to, but then you could also consider the dot-com bubble, subprime mortgage crisis, all kind of as one or two, but even if you wanted to consider those two as separate, then you got five, but still that's less than in that 20 years before the Federal Reserve. | ||
| Or perhaps you could demarcate it differently. | ||
| And you could say that from the creation of the Fed to 1929. | ||
| And then what was the other? | ||
| 1933? | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The emergency banking bill had to be passed in 1933. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| I think it was 1932 it all started. | ||
| So then I'm just going to say out of the blue. | ||
| But that's still part of the Great Depression. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And I'm going to say out of the blue, they had this guy who had this whole... | ||
| He was like... | ||
| Listen, I'm going to make a deal. | ||
| Like a fresh agreement? | ||
| I'm going to make it a random, a heretofore unheard of deal. | ||
| So he had some novel terms. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So then he's laid out this thing. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| It's watered down by these motherfuckers. | ||
| But it's still strong. | ||
| And it keeps going. | ||
| And then, let's say, in some time period, 1980. | ||
| Somebody starts trying to tear apart this deal. | ||
| Right, so how many market crashes did we have in between 1933 and 1980, Dan? | ||
| Well, if you don't count the already existing Great Depression, which we were working our way out of at that time, I think... | ||
| How many did we have? | ||
| Well, in terms of, like, severe major ones, zero. | ||
| Zero, right. | ||
| Now, after this, like... | ||
| And this is a completely random number. | ||
| Completely random number. | ||
| 1980 past that. | ||
| Have we had a few? | ||
| A few. | ||
| It's almost like... | ||
| So maybe the Federal Reserve isn't our boogeyman here. | ||
| No, maybe it's deregulation of markets. | ||
| So, yeah, I mean, it's petty to point out, but Alex is like... | ||
| No, it's really important to point out Alex is dumb and wrong about everything. | ||
| And his reasons for it are wrong, and you're wrong, and fuck off, Alex. | ||
| Go fuck yourself. | ||
| Senator Inhofe of Oklahoma and Congressman Brad Sherman of California, amongst others, told the world the entire Congress had been threatened with martial law by the White House and the Treasury Department if they didn't pass the so-called banker bailout bill. | ||
| We already talked about this at the beginning of the episode, about how Brad Sherman came on Alex Jones' show and he refuses to acknowledge that he explained what he was talking about. | ||
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The only way they can pass this bill is by creating and sustaining a panic atmosphere. | |
| That atmosphere is not justified. | ||
| Many of us were told in private conversations. | ||
| That if we voted against this bill on Monday, that the sky would fall, the market would drop 2,000 or 3,000 points the first day, another couple thousand the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no. | ||
| That's what I call fear-mongering. | ||
| If there's one thing I've learned from watching C-SPAN, it's that when you can hear a man talking on the floor of Congress and hear all those echoes... | ||
| It's because there are so many people who are still in the room, right? | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| If they don't do a wide shot, there's often like, it might be like eight people. | ||
| A lot of echoes. | ||
| It might be a Wayne Paul situation. | ||
| There's three people on the floor. | ||
| And Wayne Paul might be there. | ||
| Well, because oftentimes it is like... | ||
| You know, you want to put something in the congressional record, and no one's there. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| I don't know what the situation with this was, but when I hear Brad Sherman say this, I don't hear anything more nefarious than exactly what he described when he appeared on Alex's show. | ||
| I don't hear this as being like, some strong-arm asshole came in and was like, you passed this, there's martial law, you son of a bitch. | ||
| It's more just like, everyone is freaking out. | ||
| The idea that this could lead to an entire collapse of the monetary system. | ||
| You know, people talk shit. | ||
| And when they talk shit, it ends up being like, it gets worse. | ||
| It's going to get worse. | ||
| Can you imagine how bad this is going to get? | ||
| Oh, anyways, by the way, this is the time where we break in our show and start to sell gold, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, do we not have any gold sponsors? | ||
| I don't have any gold sponsors this week. | ||
| Goddammit, we gotta get some gold sponsors. | ||
| I don't have any sponsors. | ||
| Does anybody... | ||
| Does gold just... | ||
| Can we just get a sponsorship from the concept of gold? | ||
| I think we probably could. | ||
| I mean, based on the fact that Webster Tarpley still has a show on Genesis, I bet we could too. | ||
| We probably could. | ||
| I can't imagine he wouldn't accept us. | ||
| Webster's clearly talking shit on Alex. | ||
| He clearly hates libertarianism and Ron Paul, and he still fucking has a show there. | ||
| Can't imagine what his standard for... | ||
| How do you get kicked off that network? | ||
| All I want to do is sell Diamond Gustav Janus. | ||
| That's all I've ever wanted to do, Dan. | ||
| We have to talk to Ted. | ||
| I will sing that fucking song all day. | ||
| Ted knows the guy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Unjustified. | |
| The final version of the bill was kept secret from the Congress until minutes before the vote on October 3, 2008. | ||
| This isn't true. | ||
| The bailout bill was not secret. | ||
| It failed to pass the House on September 29, 2008. | ||
| Then the Senate took up a new version of it and it voted through on the evening of October 1, 2008. | ||
| And then it was sent to the House and it was voted through on October 3. It was quick! | ||
| But it wasn't a secret, nor were they given minutes to read it. | ||
| This is all just bullshit that Alex is peddling. | ||
| The Federal Reserve had promised total transparency, that every dime would be accounted for. | ||
| The Democrats and Republicans... | ||
| Bernie's pissed again. | ||
| Bernie is pissed. | ||
| I say, step up to the plate. | ||
| Let's do what's right. | ||
| I say step up to the streets, but okay. | ||
| Also, Alex already played this clip earlier. | ||
| This is the second time he's played a thing over again. | ||
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The time to act is now. | |
| To prevent the possibility of a crisis turning into a catastrophe. | ||
| I just want Bernie Sanders' reaction shots to speeches now from now on. | ||
| The bill didn't just give $700 billion to the banks. | ||
| It was a blank check. | ||
| And as of February 2009, $9.7 trillion has disappeared into a black hole. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| Not true at all. | ||
| If you pause just the place that I did here, there's an article that Alex puts up on screen about this $9.7 trillion. | ||
| It's interesting because if you go find that article, you find that in this article it clearly talks about the $9.7 trillion and the $7 trillion. | ||
| $700 billion numbers, they're two different things. | ||
| The $700 billion is the bailout, the TARP bailout that was passed in late 2008. | ||
| The $9.7 trillion is a figure that's being batted around about what the Federal Reserve was going to lend to banks. | ||
| They're different monies. | ||
| They're different things. | ||
| They're not missing. | ||
| It's not missing. | ||
| It's not stolen. | ||
| It's not missing. | ||
| It's only stolen if you accept Alex's conception of the Federal Reserve as some sort of an evil corporation, and that's not the case. | ||
| Within 24 hours of its passage, Secretary of Treasury Henry Paulson said they were no longer going to use the money to unfreeze the mortgage market by buying bad debt. | ||
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Wait, what? | |
| To Congress, illiquid assets look like the way to go. | ||
| As the situation worsens, the facts change. | ||
| I will never apologize for changing an approach or strategy when the facts change. | ||
| Honestly, that clip makes him seem like a reasonable person. | ||
| Yeah, that actually doesn't make me angry at all. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| No, that's a good idea. | ||
| I won't apologize for changing my position when facts change. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is the closest you're ever going to get to a politician saying, I was fucking wrong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We didn't approach and we fucked up. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| So we thought this was going on and then we tried this and that didn't work. | ||
| It worked a little but not as much as we thought it would. | ||
| It turns out that was what's going on. | ||
| So we're going to do that to solve that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And before we didn't know that was that, we thought it was this. | ||
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So, whoops! | |
| But more importantly, that was Henry Paulson talking. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Boo! | ||
| Alex says that a day later, Henry Paulson flipped the script on everybody and said, nah, we're not going to do what we said we're going to do. | ||
| He took them out on the stroll like a pimp. | ||
| He was like, nah, fuck that. | ||
| It's my way or the highway. | ||
| 24 hours later, he tricked everybody. | ||
| This is bullshit. | ||
| The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 was passed into law on October 3, 2008. | ||
| The quote Alex Jones is using here is from Henry Paulson, and it comes from an article in Bloomberg that was reporting on the speech that he was making there. | ||
| It was from November 12, 2008, over a month later. | ||
| The quote's in reference to what they were going to do with the second half of the $700 billion. | ||
| The initial plan of buying up all the devalued assets and clearing up bank balance sheets hadn't gone as well as they'd hoped, so the Treasury was looking for a different approach. | ||
| Instead of looking for ways to keep going down the same road, they were exploring the idea of easing consumer credit worries. | ||
| Right or wrong, it's not some sort of evil act. | ||
| It's someone re-evaluating whether or not their plan's working. | ||
| So, if I understand correctly, this was November 12, 2008. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| When Obama had been president for six years, right? | ||
| I think he got elected eight days before that. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, no. | ||
| So he was president at the time. | ||
| Right, I understand that, and I want to make hay out of that, and I want to dance all over Alex. | ||
| I'm just saying. | ||
| I just need to point that out. | ||
| I understand that, and you're right. | ||
| And none of this is Obama's fault, really. | ||
| Or is really something he's that involved with? | ||
| On a personal level. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Except as a senator. | ||
| The only reason I don't keep bringing that up is that Alex pretends that the point of this documentary is not Obama. | ||
| It's the people behind him. | ||
| It's that he's the puppet. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Me puppet, you puppet. | ||
| Me puppet, you puppet. | ||
| So to say, like... | ||
| Who's the dummy? | ||
| Dummy. | ||
| To say, like, this happened before him... | ||
| Isn't really a refutation of Alex, because he'll just throw back, I'm not talking about him. | ||
| No, no, no, of course not. | ||
| So that's why I stop myself whenever I'm like, we're talking about things in 2008. | ||
| The only time it's really relevant are like way earlier when it's like, Alex is using a C-SPAN appearance from ROM in 2006. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| That's so irrelevant. | ||
| See, now, here's the thing, though. | ||
| With the way that we're doing this podcast, I feel like we need at least once every hour to remind people that This is not about Obama at all. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| And it can't be, because he's only been in office for less than two months. | ||
| Or in this circumstance, has not been in office. | ||
| Utter bullshit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Paulson has, in the meantime, admitted that the subprime mortgage crisis is not the cause, really, of the break of the entire world banking system and the bankruptcy of most of the banks in London and in Wall Street. | ||
| He said, oh, we're going to buy up toxic assets, but we're not going to worry about subprime mortgages. | ||
| What he's talking about is derivatives. | ||
| The reason he's saying this is because of the idea that he's like, well, we went this approach and it didn't have the effect we wanted to, so we're going to use the rest of the money in a different approach. | ||
| Webster Tarpley is pretending that what Henry Paulson was saying was this isn't the reason for the situation that we're in, as opposed to being like, this might not be the best way for us to move forward. | ||
| It's a fine distinction, but this is a lie. | ||
| This is an absolute lie. | ||
| Derivatives are the center of the crisis. | ||
| Which still might be fair. | ||
| Yeah, but still alive. | ||
| I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. | ||
| If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property. | ||
| For anybody listening, it's on screen. | ||
| The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs. | ||
| Thomas Jefferson, third president of the United States. | ||
| Alright, now, before you continue at all, based on our track record so far, Dan, before you say another goddamn word, did Thomas Jefferson actually write that fucking shit? | ||
| That's a fake quote! | ||
| Goddammit, Dan! | ||
| But also, the reason I waited until the end is because, like, what, you want me to pause it and then afterwards we have to listen to more of that? | ||
| No, the moment he... | ||
| So they put the whole thing up on screen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And you can see that it's attributed to Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Secretary of Treasury, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And the moment I saw that, I was like, uh, probably didn't happen. | ||
| No, probably not. | ||
| If Alex Jones is using a quote, it's fucking fake. | ||
| It's probably not real. | ||
| I'm sorry, I just didn't want to even allow him to finish lying in the middle of it. | ||
| But I wanted him to get his voiceover done so we didn't have to listen to it more after. | ||
| Yeah, we could have scrubbed. | ||
| I think it was like six fake quotes in Endgame, and now we're at like four. | ||
| Oh, we had a lot of fake quotes in Endgame. | ||
| We're at like four at this point on this episode, so like, I mean, you know, that's ten in two documentaries of just... | ||
| That's a lot of whole cloth making up quotes. | ||
| So now with this quote, it's really interesting. | ||
| The earliest reference to this quote, according to the Jefferson Encyclopedia, is from 1937. | ||
| Thomas Jefferson died in 1826. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's strike number one. | ||
| So it's right on time. | ||
| Strike number two is the use of the word deflation to describe the process that money goes through. | ||
| According to the Oxford English Dictionary, that word didn't take on that meaning until 1920. | ||
| Almost a hundred years after he had died. | ||
| There's no way he said that. | ||
| In his defense, Thomas Jefferson loved balloons. | ||
| So he would have known about deflation and its many metaphorical uses. | ||
| But that metaphorical use wasn't a use for the word. | ||
| Until 1920. | ||
| Oxford English Dictionary, they do a lot of research into etymology and uses of words. | ||
| It's a good resource. | ||
| They're kind of anal about it, if you will. | ||
| Alex has up there on screen that this was from a letter to Albert Gallatin, but according to the Thomas Jefferson Foundation, those words don't... | ||
| Albert Gallatin has been dead for 25 years. | ||
| Those words don't appear in any letters Jefferson wrote to Gallatin. | ||
| The quote, quote, I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies is a paraphrasing from something he wrote in a letter to John Taylor 14 years after Alex is claiming that letter was sent. | ||
| But the rest of the quote is completely made up in the 1930s. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| That's a lot of horseshit. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| You can trace it down because there's people who care about this stuff a lot. | ||
| It's fun to realize that you could make a lie that everybody knows is bullshit today, but might accidentally become the bedrock of truth a hundred years from now. | ||
| Might create an entire dumb movement. | ||
| Yeah, isn't that fascinating? | ||
| This Thomas Jefferson quote is one of the most important of Alex's. | ||
| That idea of, if we let these banks do what they want to do, our... | ||
| For our grandchildren to be slaves in a land where we conquered it. | ||
| But you say it a little bit nicer. | ||
| This is Thomas Jefferson. | ||
| But that sort of thing is so important to him. | ||
| So knowing that it's all like, someone just made that up in the 1930s. | ||
| Thomas Jefferson didn't say that. | ||
| That's all fake. | ||
| It's very rewarding to me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To know they're like, ha ha ha. | ||
| Although, on the other hand, what is nice about it is that because our language is so completely and utterly different now, it would be hard to make up, like it would be kind of hard to make up quotes for Obama when, you know, like 10 years from now, it's going to be like, emoji, emoji, emoji. | ||
| Believe in the truth emoji. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| That'll be easier to track. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Yeah, but I imagine that wouldn't be in the congressional record even in 10 years. | ||
| But that sort of thing... | ||
| You do not know what the congressional record is going to look like in 10 years. | ||
| But that sort of thing is the fingerprint of frauds. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like the idea that deflation didn't have that use back then is a marker that people can use to go back and be like, oh... | ||
| There's no way he said this in the 1820s. | ||
| That's nonsense. | ||
| Someone else wrote this. | ||
| It's like when you go back through the Bible and you start looking at the derivation of all the words, you're like, this was not written whenever it's purported to have been written. | ||
| This is clearly showing the signs of this time period and so on and so forth. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| I like words. | ||
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Right. | |
| Linguistics is a really fun avenue of study. | ||
| And Webster Tarpley has a degree in that. | ||
| He should have told Alex, don't use this quote. | ||
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Secretary Paulson came in with the vice president. | |
| Oh, Daryl Issa, you idiot. | ||
| You know ISIS was named after him. | ||
| Was it? | ||
| According to Matt Trudge. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
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Critical, immediate need to get rid of the corrosive... | |
| Derivative products. | ||
| You know, all the different names for this, you know, ubiquitous, you know, sub-S, retraded, credit default swap, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| I wouldn't be petty except you're a dick. | ||
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Okay? | |
| But they talked about them as though they knew what the hell they were. | ||
| You got the money and you immediately said, what items? | ||
| What auction? | ||
| Now, the Treasury just basically cut that out of the bill. | ||
| Oh, it's a six-year-old! | ||
| Oh, no, that's a very old six-year-old. | ||
| That's Kucinich. | ||
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My bad. | |
| Banks are hoarding the money that they're getting from the tarp. | ||
| They're using the money to purchase other banks. | ||
| We'll get to that in a second. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| That one I remember. | ||
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Forget about it. | |
| We're going to give you the money that you want, and you do what you want with it. | ||
| Unless you direct it specifically, it's not going to happen. | ||
| I don't think anyone... | ||
| Questions, Mr. Kashkari, that you're working hard. | ||
| Our question is who you're working for. | ||
| So Alex has played that clip twice also. | ||
| And look, Kashkari, that's Bush administration, but also he was someone who worked in Wall Street before, and what Dennis Kucinich is implying there is very clearly... | ||
| Are you working for the best interests of the people or for the banks who used to work at? | ||
| Alex is trying to play this up as some sort of like a... | ||
| Are you working for the Illuminati? | ||
| You globalist, baby. | ||
| Or it's more like, are you part of the whole system of revolving door? | ||
| Regulatory capture, as it would be. | ||
| Also, one thing, and I need to talk about this. | ||
| I love the name Kashkari, though. | ||
| It is nice, isn't it? | ||
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I'm a big fan. | |
| It's so good. | ||
| This is the only thing that I've ever been able to think about Kucinich. | ||
| And I've read a lot about his policies. | ||
| I've read a lot about his history. | ||
| You think nothing more than what you're about to say. | ||
| I think nothing. | ||
| And of all the things that I've read about Kucinich, this is the one thing I've said, I've thought. | ||
| Has any Taylor ever been able to figure him out? | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| weird because there are zero suits i have ever seen him in that make even the slightest bit of sense throughout its passage president bush and senator obama worked in tandem to get congress to pass the bill without even having time to read it despite the fact that in major polls 98 of the american people were against the bill the leadership in both parties were for it so 98%? | ||
| They had time to read the bill. | ||
| But also, he keeps saying both parties, and what we see on screen is, again, he's playing the exact same footage of Pelosi, Rahm, Barney Frank, and other Democrats. | ||
| Now, 98% is crazy. | ||
| Literally, in America's history, 98% of America has never agreed on something at the same time. | ||
| I can't find... | ||
| Not even like water's good. | ||
| Like 98% of America does not agree on anything. | ||
| Too much fluoride. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| There's no way 98% of America has agreed on anything in any poll ever. | ||
| Jordan, I spent way too much time trying to find this poll. | ||
| I dug through all sorts of records trying to figure out, like, is there a poll that existed? | ||
| Because earlier, I found that poll that Alex was lying about. | ||
| The 9% approval rating for Congress was based on that Rasmussen poll that was asking a different question. | ||
| I don't want to come out here and say there was no poll that said that when there's just a slight misunderstanding. | ||
| I can't find anything. | ||
| And I'll tell you this. | ||
| On September 22, 2008, Rasmussen posted a poll that showed a 28% approval rating for the bailout. | ||
| So that's sort of a baseline around when the bailout was happening. | ||
| On September 26, 2008, a USA Today poll found that 78% approved of Congress doing something. | ||
| But 56% thought that the plan should be different than what Bush suggested. | ||
| That's America in a nutshell? | ||
| That's the most America you could ever get. | ||
| Yeah, they should do something! | ||
| Not that, though! | ||
| Three quarters say do something, over a half says not that. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I want that poll to be... | ||
| That should be written on everybody's epithet. | ||
| Honestly, that poll, if I were someone who had to make a decision, I would find that crippling. | ||
| Because I would be like... | ||
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I don't know what to do. | |
| So, so, so what then? | ||
| I have to do something. | ||
| What do you want from me? | ||
| I have to do something, but it's not this thing we've spent hours and hours coming up with negotiating. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| Oh, no. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| That's the most American thing you've ever read. | ||
| But I also understand. | ||
| 75%, yeah. | ||
| Do something. | ||
| 50%. | ||
| I mean, the USA Today doesn't really have the best, like, polling history, like, in terms of their, like, adherence to statistics and their credibility. | ||
| But at the same time, I smell that poll, those numbers, I'm like, you bet. | ||
| That seems like that might have been one nail. | ||
| It feels right. | ||
| 538 predicted that one accurately. | ||
| Because I remember the time period, too, and it feels like emotionally I might have been there, too. | ||
| I know! | ||
| Exactly, right? | ||
| At the time, I'd have been like, yeah, we gotta do something! | ||
| Whatever it is you said, wrong! | ||
| They might have accurately pinpointed my emotional state that I couldn't even articulate. | ||
| Thank you, USA Today! | ||
| So on October 1st, 2008, the Pew Research Center released a poll showing 45% thought that the government's plan was the right thing to do. | ||
| So that's pretty close to a 45% approval rating. | ||
| An ABC Washington Post survey, not a poll, a survey, from September 29th found a 45% approval rating for the proposed bill. | ||
| I can't find anything that even comes close to approximating a 2% approval rating. | ||
| I know that as things went on, things got less popular. | ||
| I understand that, but I still can't find anything from around that time that is even close. | ||
| That Rasmussen poll from September 22nd at 28% is the closest I can find. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think Alex is just making this up. | ||
| I really think he might just be out of nothing. | ||
| In the same way that a dictator winning re-election by 98% of the vote is suspicious, this is suspicious. | ||
| If it was a real poll, I wouldn't believe it. | ||
| But I also, hearing Alex say it, I also don't believe it. | ||
| And I really want to commend Barack Obama, because as we were involved in this and that and different provisions of the bill to persuade people, he really gave them confidence that this was the right decision for the American people, even though it wasn't, in our view, a great bill. | ||
| This is Nancy Pelosi talking... | ||
| What a difference a decade makes, right? | ||
| And Alex is trying to present this as her saying this bill sucks and stuff like that, but what she's really expressing is the idea that we would have wanted something a little bit better. | ||
| That's something that our Democratic caucus would have wanted, and I'd like to thank Barack Obama for being a negotiator and someone who... | ||
| Brought us all together. | ||
| You know, we aspire for better, but this is also probably the right thing to do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's nothing nefarious here. | ||
| Nope. | ||
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For them to vote on. | |
| Boo! | ||
| And that is Barack Obama. | ||
| Boo! | ||
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Fuck you! | |
| Fuck Pelosi, too! | ||
| Bank heads then bragged to the press that they were hoarding the bailout money and using it to buy up smaller, healthy banks and insurance companies. | ||
| So, real quick, this is something that sounds fucking evil. | ||
| Because the idea that these banks were getting tons of money from the government and they're using it to buy up other banks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex is suggesting this is super evil. | ||
| And it does seem that way. | ||
| But this isn't what Alex is presenting it to be. | ||
| If you go to the article that he just flashed up on screen there they explain exactly what the situation is. | ||
| Right after the part where Alex cut off the article probably strategically the article goes on to say quote There's a growing consensus among Treasury and other federal officials that allowing healthy banks to use the money to acquire banks in jeopardy of failing could stabilize the economy and bolster confidence in banks. | ||
| This could also save money for the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. | ||
| Naturally, this isn't ideal. | ||
| So you wouldn't want to be creating even bigger entities, whereas the whole excuse for bailing things out to begin with was they were too big to fail. | ||
| But you can kind of see where the strategy might be considered. | ||
| You kind of think about it like, okay, so you got this bank, this big bank. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We need to help them. | ||
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Right. | |
| So you give them a bunch of money. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That other smaller bank is also failing. | ||
| We got to give them money too. | ||
| But if that bigger bank with the money that we gave them buys that smaller bank, We no longer have to give that smaller bank money. | ||
| There is a sense to it that makes sense. | ||
| It's not a good strategy. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| It's one of those situations where when you are in Congress, there's a party that's like, I just want one guy who's kind of removed from your whole structure who's going to go like, oh, that's a dumb idea. | ||
| You know how dumb that idea is? | ||
| That's the idea that got us to where the idea you had right now is necessary. | ||
| That would be me. | ||
| That's a dumb idea. | ||
| That would be me in Congress in flip-flops smoking a spliff. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like just burning a spliff in the middle of the house like... | ||
| I wouldn't do that. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Hey, guys, you want to be back here in about five years? | ||
| No? | ||
| Then no. | ||
| The answer is no. | ||
| It's a bad long-term strategy, absolutely. | ||
| But at the same time, when we're talking about an emergency, it does make sense as this is something that could help ease troubles. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it could be a thing where you... | ||
| You absorb a lot of the damage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But again, more importantly, strategy is fucking stupid. | ||
| Yeah, but see, again, that's not like a specific failure to any of these people so much as it is a systemic failure of like, well, you're in Congress for a short period of time and you need to be re-elected and so this makes sense to you. | ||
| Like, if you did what was a good idea, it would still suck for a while and you might get... | ||
| Unelected. | ||
| You know, you might lose in your next election if you did the right thing. | ||
| I don't know if there's a right or wrong thing. | ||
| I honestly don't. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| I know you didn't mean it that way, but it's so... | ||
| Nebulous and complicated. | ||
| Is this judicious? | ||
| Is it wise? | ||
| Is it a smart thing to do? | ||
| Those sorts of descriptions, I think, are applicable, but I don't know if right or wrong. | ||
| But there is a right or wrong aspect to it, because there's effects on other people. | ||
| It is hard. | ||
| It's hard to say. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm glad I don't know how to make these decisions. | ||
| But I can look at it from afar, and I don't need the hindsight of 2018 to know. | ||
| What was actually going on there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it wasn't something nefarious, or it's like, ha-ha, all these banks got all this money, and they're like, ha-ha, now we're going to buy up all these other banks. | ||
| It was sort of an arrangement that was going on about the idea of, like, we can absorb the damage that could come to the FDIC and help out. | ||
| And also there was a little bit of that, ha-ha, we can buy up some stuff. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| So there's definitely that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Plan was working like a charm. | ||
| Next, the central bankers loan the federal government back $787 billion of our own money for President Obama's so-called stimulus package. | ||
| So-called! | ||
| That package that stabilized the economy and ruined our lives by increasing employment. | ||
| Barack Obama, who had pledged on the campaign trail to wait five days before a bill could be voted on so that the Congress and the people could have a chance to read it, said that the stimulus was too important and it had to be passed before anybody could see it or read it, or the crisis would turn into a catastrophe. | ||
| Doing little or nothing at all will result in even greater deficits, even greater job loss, even greater loss of income. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And even greater loss of confidence. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| On all fronts. | ||
| Those deficits that could turn a crisis into a catastrophe. | ||
| And I refuse to let that happen. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| After its Friday passage, in gangster fashion, President Barack Obama... | ||
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Whoa! | |
| That's code. | ||
| Holy cow! | ||
| ...and said that there was no rush to sign it. | ||
| So, real quick, earlier... | ||
| Congratulations to Alex for his restraint on gangster instead of gangsta. | ||
| Earlier he said that they were given an hour to read the bill. | ||
| That's not true at all. | ||
| It was introduced on January 26, 2009 and passed the House on January 28, 2009. | ||
| It was voted on in the Senate on February 10, 2009. | ||
| The House time frame isn't ideal. | ||
| I would prefer more than a day and a half, probably. | ||
| But that's also not an hour. | ||
| Now, in terms of that gangster fashion bullshit, listen. | ||
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What? | |
| Alex, he said that it passed on a Friday, and then Obama went on a vacation. | ||
| So here's the deal. | ||
| I hate presidents who go on vacations regularly. | ||
| Perhaps for 40%, if not 60% of the days of the year. | ||
| Now, though the stimulus bill passed the House on January 28, 2009, which was a Wednesday, and it passed the Senate on February 10, 2009, which is a Tuesday, The chambers of Congress passed different versions of the bill. | ||
| So in order to get it through, they had to go to conference and negotiate the bill. | ||
| They reached a negotiation on February 13, 2009, which is a Friday, which is probably what Alex is talking about. | ||
| They got it through conference on that Friday. | ||
| It was signed by Obama on February 17th, the following Tuesday. | ||
| But that's probably because the Senate didn't take their vote until the conference bill passed at like 5.30pm on a Friday. | ||
| You gotta be out of there by 5. You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I mean, hey. | ||
| Look. | ||
| It's a Friday. | ||
| Coal workers didn't die so we couldn't all have a 40-hour work weekend. | ||
| I believe in that so strongly that I believe our president can also check the fuck out at 5. I don't really. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You're the president. | ||
| I'm joking around a little bit about the fact they passed the bill at 5.30 on a Friday. | ||
| But the reason that he didn't sign it until Tuesday is because the 14th, the day after, was Valentine's Day. | ||
| Monday, February 16th, was President's Day, which is a federal holiday. | ||
| Let the clerks have the day off. | ||
| You can't... | ||
| What? | ||
| You think the president's going to take a federal holiday off? | ||
| It's his day. | ||
| Oh, it's literally his day? | ||
| It's literally in the name. | ||
| It's literally his day. | ||
| It's President's Day. | ||
| What, is he going to take that day off? | ||
| Yeah, so he took a vacation over the long weekend. | ||
| They passed the bill, and then when he came back on Tuesday, he signed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex is talking about, like, he made it seem like such an emergency, and then he was gone for the weekend. | ||
| When you look at this, the reason it was an emergency wasn't a matter of a day or two. | ||
| It was a matter of dragging your feet. | ||
| And that's very clear from this. | ||
| Like, when you look at what he was actually saying in the rhetoric, it was, we can't afford to wait around and let bureaucracy get in the way. | ||
| Because you had a situation where Congress could... | ||
| Really gum up the works. | ||
| And they could get into infighting. | ||
| There could be a whole bunch of nonsense. | ||
| You could end up with a bill getting stuck for a month, two months. | ||
| And if you waited that long, it would be a disaster. | ||
| A day or two? | ||
| Not that big a deal. | ||
| So Alex is splitting hairs on this really weird... | ||
| I would say the same thing about Trump. | ||
| I honestly would. | ||
| I think he's a fucking shithead in all of that. | ||
| But if he waited a day to sign a bill that didn't matter if he waited a day, I would never be like, this motherfucker tried to... | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| I want to live in a world where that's my problem with Trump. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I want to live in that world. | ||
| I want to live in that world where it's like, oh, what? | ||
| You can't sign it until a week later? | ||
| That would be a great issue to have with Trump. | ||
| The issue I don't want to have with Trump is... | ||
| No, he couldn't sign it because him... | ||
| And his wife that he loves a lot that I publicly constantly say is a man went on a vacation for Valentine's Day and President's Day, which happened to fall on the same weekend. | ||
| And I'm pissed off about it. | ||
| And also, I did say she was a man over and over again. | ||
| I call her Michael all the time, but also it's kind of a joke if anyone calls me out on it. | ||
| That's Alex. | ||
| Yeah, man, I want to live in that world. | ||
| Yeah, it'd be great. | ||
| I want that to be my biggest problem. | ||
| Oh my god, I want that to be my biggest problem so bad! | ||
| Well, it's that fun thing. | ||
| We're keeping people in fucking tent camps. | ||
| It's the fun thing about being a... | ||
| We're putting children in front of a fucking judge. | ||
| I would love for my biggest problem to be, oh, you take a long weekend? | ||
| It's the fun thing about being a patriot is you're battling ghosts. | ||
| Yeah, that is... | ||
| You're fighting a... | ||
| We're a fake enemy, so all bets are off. | ||
| It doesn't really matter. | ||
| That is nice. | ||
| And you kind of know that. | ||
| So, like, who gives a shit? | ||
| I'll scam my audience. | ||
| We'll have a good time. | ||
| Yeah, everyone's got... | ||
| Hey, we're all having a good time. | ||
| Round of drinks. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The Patriot movement is a giant group of people saying, round of drinks on everybody who hates you. | ||
| Round of drinks on everyone but me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what they're doing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The spending bill was really a takeover bill. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
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Shit! | |
| Nice! | ||
| I guess? | ||
| Soros! | ||
| Soros! | ||
| But again, this is a Soros. | ||
| Oh, he doesn't mention Soros at all. | ||
| No, it's a Soros visual cue, but Alex doesn't seem to even know that that's on screen. | ||
| It seems like if you hated Soros so much as he did, so much so that as you were a child, your mom would put Soros on PBS. | ||
| About how he's evil. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You would, in your own documentary, showing Soros himself. | ||
| Go off. | ||
| Well, I mean, like, there's been multiple occasions already where his voiceover doesn't match what's shown on screen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you kind of get the sense that maybe whoever's editing this put that on, and Alex doesn't even know that's the B-roll. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The phrase, burdens of the office, is overstated. | ||
| Why me? | ||
| Why did the financial collapse have to happen on my watch? | ||
| Oh my god, put him in that goddamn prison cell! | ||
| And I don't believe President-elect Obama will be full of self-pity. | ||
| I honestly think that that clip, you responded very poorly to that. | ||
| I think that that's one of the Bush clips that I've seen that makes me like him the most. | ||
| Now, I'm not interested in rehabilitating his image at all, but it sounded like he was giving some sort of, like, uh, woe is me thing, but he was poking fun at himself. | ||
| He was saying, like... | ||
| He was addressing the idea of the burden of office. | ||
| And he's being like, I don't really think it's all that serious. | ||
| And then he did that character of like, woe is me. | ||
| The burden happened when I'm on. | ||
| He was saying that that is not what someone should do. | ||
| Because he's already on his way out of office. | ||
| And then Enzo was saying, I don't think that Obama is the kind of president who would take pity on himself. | ||
| Which is a classy fucking thing to say. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| And I wish he had said it from a prison cell. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Don't disagree. | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| You know that letter that every president writes to the next president? | ||
| I want to read Trump's letter so bad! | ||
| His letter is going to be like, I learned how to write with a crayon. | ||
| And that's going to be it. | ||
| It's going to be a rebus. | ||
| He is fucking... | ||
| Oh god, we're all going to die. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't want to defend... | ||
| W, but the only reason I responded that way is because you were like, I wanted to make sure that I think that's... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That clip, I think, is pretty good. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| There's a lot of clips of Bush in this documentary that are fucking awful. | ||
| And Alex is presenting that as being awful, and I don't think it's awful at all. | ||
| I think it's classy as hell. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| With their access to unlimited fiat capital, they could now buy up sectors of the world economy. | ||
| Like what? | ||
| I think they already own the Fortune 500, so... | ||
| So what the fuck are they doing? | ||
| What do they want? | ||
| This is a barrage of terrible graphics. | ||
| The supernatural sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national own termination practice in the last centuries. | ||
| There's a higher quality version right now at PrisonPlanet.com. | ||
| If you were wondering... | ||
| If you want a sharper version of David Rockefeller. | ||
| Yeah, if you want a sharper version of an old decaying white man, go to PrisonPlanet.com. | ||
| Did you hear that quote? | ||
| A little bit? | ||
| It wasn't real. | ||
| It doesn't really matter. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| That's another fake quote. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| He was talking about the supernational collaboration of these banking interests is definitely preferable to the sovereign states. | ||
| Blah, blah, blah. | ||
| This is based on a YouTube video that went around conspiracy right-wing circles. | ||
| I don't like anything based on a YouTube video. | ||
| It was purported to be a leaked copy of a speech that Rockefeller gave at Bilderberg in 19... | ||
| But if you look at the video, it itself says on the video, like on the goddamn picture that's on screen. | ||
| It is just an image. | ||
| It's not a moving video. | ||
| It's just a picture. | ||
| And it says in parentheses. | ||
| Audio simulation. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| It is not a recording at all of Rockefeller, but people act like it is. | ||
| There's nothing to back this up. | ||
| There's no transcript. | ||
| There's nothing. | ||
| There's nothing to substantiate this. | ||
| And it didn't start making the rounds until two years after he supposedly said it. | ||
| So my feeling is, absent any other confirmation, based on all of the fake quotes that Alex keeps using... | ||
| You think he maybe didn't say it? | ||
| Well, I think... | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Because to say that would be fucking stupid. | ||
| That would be a bad idea to say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even if you believe that. | ||
| If you were a global business Illuminati running world master, you still wouldn't say that. | ||
| But also, here's what I would say. | ||
| I understand that you expect privacy at Bilderberg. | ||
| They work under Chatham rules. | ||
| I mean, you're Adam Marriott. | ||
| They have Chatham House rules. | ||
| The understanding is that you can... | ||
| This is actually really what they go by. | ||
| They use this rule set where you can use any information that you got there. | ||
| But you can't talk about who said it or anything like that. | ||
| So if I am there at Bilderberg, you and I are there, I give you a piece of information about some thought I have or whatever, you can run with it, but you can't say that I told you that there. | ||
| There's that secrecy there. | ||
| That's sort of their guideline. | ||
| So whatever. | ||
| The reason that I'm bringing this up is that, like, so let's imagine a world where David Rockefeller is giving a speech in 1991 when he's been to... | ||
| Many Bilderberg meetings before that. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's not his first time. | ||
| He's not some sort of green rookie. | ||
| He comes in and gives a speech where he says, ha ha ha, ha ha, we are going to usurp sovereignty. | ||
| That would be gauche. | ||
| Like, even if he believed it, it would be the sort of thing. | ||
| Why would you fucking say that? | ||
| You're only saying it to people who already know that that's what you believe if Alex's version of the Bilderberg is right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Why would the king of the whole thing be like, now here's what we're gonna do. | ||
| That seems fucking stupid. | ||
| Well, what concerns me is, where is the king of lobbyists? | ||
| John, Leon Panetta? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| What's he doing? | ||
| He's not in play, I don't know. | ||
| He's not in play? | ||
| So who's the king of lobbyists at this point in time? | ||
| Well, he's always the... | ||
| Also, what are the... | ||
| He's also the king of the Andals. | ||
| What are the succession rights on the king of lobbyism? | ||
| Well, you've got to steal one of his clients. | ||
| Oh, no, of course. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And then... | ||
| He will require a trial by combat. | ||
| Are you sure you don't need to marry one of his lobbyists' daughters? | ||
| Well, I mean, that's another way to do it. | ||
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That's another way to do it. | |
| But again, it will still lead to trial by combat. | ||
| That would only lead to you becoming an earl of lobbyists. | ||
| Ultimately, it's going to lead to combat. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And you have to get a champion. | ||
| He'll get a champion. | ||
| Everyone's going to ultimately choose Dwayne the Rock Johnson. | ||
| It is Marquis of Queensberry rules, which is why Dwayne the Rock Johnson is going to win. | ||
| It's Chatham House rules. | ||
| So you guys can have a fight. | ||
| I thought it was Cider House rules. | ||
| No abortions, and no one can talk about cider chatham rules. | ||
| This is nonsense. | ||
| So the only reason I bring this up is trying to entertain the fucking idea of the world wherein David Rockefeller said this, but he also fucking didn't. | ||
| No, there's no way. | ||
| But if he did, I welcome Alex to prove that it happened. | ||
| I'm all for it. | ||
| I will retract everything I've said about this, but I think it's fucking stupid. | ||
| I won't retract anything, but you can. | ||
| Well, I'm saying, I'm making declarations. | ||
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You're goofing. | |
| Well, hey. | ||
| I would say, there's no way that this doesn't come back to Daniel Estelin. | ||
| And if that's the case, then I say, get bent, Estelin. | ||
| We have all been held within the... | ||
| Jail cell of that ponytail for too long. | ||
| That jail estelon. | ||
| It wasn't a pun. | ||
| I blew it. | ||
| And that is where we will have to cut it off for today. | ||
| I hope you all enjoyed yet another spurious quote that Alex is peddling as if it's real. | ||
| What a shock this documentary is lousy with Alex just making shit up. | ||
| But we'll be back tomorrow, Friday, for the conclusion, the thrilling conclusion of the Obama deception coverage. | ||
| We've already... | ||
| Past the point where I have given up caring about this. | ||
| Listening back to this, that was not a proud moment for me to have put on a recording. | ||
| Just admitting I don't really give a shit about what Alex is even saying anymore. | ||
| But we're there, and we have crossed that line, and we'll see how it plays out for the conclusion. | ||
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| Anyway, guys, I... | ||
| Trying to think about more ways that I can weave wrestling into these outros here. | ||
| I was just interrupted by a very rude cat that jumped on my back here. | ||
| She doesn't want to say hi, but she's annoying the hell out of me. | ||
| And hey, I'll tell you what, I love my cat very much. | ||
| Celine is a great cat, and one of the things that I appreciate the most about her is that she has never killed anybody. | ||
| This cat is murder-free. | ||
| But one person who can't say it the same, who has technically probably killed a guy, is Alex Jones. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |