Today, Dan and Jordan discuss some curious thematic similarities between the broadcasts Alex Jones did during the Kavanaugh confirmation vote and during the 2016 election. While both were ostensibly about a major political event, each was really about celebrating cruelty and spouting closed-minded nonsense.
We had an episode before Monday, but we recorded it on Saturday immediately.
Immediately following Brett Kavanaugh's sham existence and revealing that the Supreme Court is non-existent anymore as a check on any sort of executive power.
But when I listened back to it, I thought about the possibility of, like, maybe we can put this out.
But there was something that wasn't quite right.
So on that episode, we covered Alex's live stream of Kavanaugh's confirmation hearing.
Not the hearing, I guess, the vote, as it were.
And there was something that just wasn't quite right.
There was an element that was missing.
And so today what we're going to be doing is going over what I believe is the element that was missing of that while covering the important points of Alex's live stream of Kavanaugh's vote.
As it were.
I know that's a little bit complicated, a little convoluted maybe to understand off the top.
I promise things will make sense as we go along and you will see what that je ne sais quoi was that was missing from our original.
But it's one of those things that on our show it's kind of difficult to cover immediate news.
Because of just the time constraints and the contextualization that needs to be done, the pulling pieces from others.
If we rush things sometimes, I think that we miss elements, and that's something I hope to correct here.
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So, Jordan, today what we're going to be doing primarily is looking at some of the harsh parallels between the day that Alex Jones celebrated on air, on his live stream, the confirmation of Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, and some of his celebration from the 2016 election night.
I went back and I tried to find the entire video of Alex Jones on election night.
And a lot of the stuff that I've discussed about the idea of them watching videos of Hillary supporters crying and stuff like that is from that.
So thankfully, I didn't have to rewatch that stuff necessarily.
That stuff towards the end of the night where...
It became clear what the game was.
But going back and listening to a lot of that election night stuff, I realized that's the missing piece of this.
Seeing the parallels between these two very major celebrations that Alex has had, I think give us the key that we need to unlock what he's really talking about in some circumstances.
But there is a video that he has about, like, oh, look at these crybaby Hillary fans.
And so there is a lot of video on there of...
You know, the same video that they were mocking in studio on election night with, like, wah sound effects of it interspersed with pictures of crying babies and stuff like that.
Now, one of the things that's really interesting in that clip is that he is making the preemptive excuse for the midterms that if their cheating works, then it'll stop our next phase of this great triggering or whatever he wants to call it.
Now, that's interesting.
Because I went back, and at the beginning of Alex's stream, he didn't think Trump was going to win.
Even on election day, he didn't think Trump was going to win.
But I look at how Christians in the West ended slavery, tried to end sexism, and tried to build everybody up, and the very people we tried to build up just role reversed with the Christians who tried to end all the tyranny.
And they reversed and said, you're the slave now.
You're the subhuman.
You're the reason there's problems.
You're the white male.
You're the Christian.
And we're just standing here going, I just wanted freedom.
So you see there at the end, I'm sorry, the vampires are now going to have you, because he's preemptively, emotionally preparing the narrative to be, Clinton is going to win.
And at the beginning, I should have prepared you for that in some way.
But then the people that they tried to uplift, which Alex is talking specifically about minorities and women that support Hillary Clinton, have turned around and are now trying to...
They flipped the script on the great Christian men who are a spaceship in society.
All the rest of the world is barbarism.
Only white Christian men are really the people who, you know, they want to go around and create society.
This is still from his live stream on the election day, and he has some more really stupid things to say within the context, again, of him believing that Trump isn't going to win.
I'm sorry you won't get tax cuts, you won't get prosperity, but you'll get CNN and NPR telling you how you're in charge, and you'll drive around in your car in a fantasy.
That you're in charge until you're about 40 as a woman, and then they'll try to find a man, and men won't want to be with you because they're scared that they were never made to be men.
They don't want a commitment.
Plus, you don't want one either, so you'll just be all alone.
It won't matter.
Then you'll become old and worship the state, and your body will be put into liquid acid and dissolved for fertilizer to grow the elite crops.
And you never existed.
Your entire genetic line, all your ancestors will die with you.
But you weren't the villain.
You were just the species of women being killed.
So, this grave marker for your death and the Xeno side of the planet will be your victory as you die full of morphine, worshipping Satan.
And so, it's kind of true perception is reality for the slave.
That you never existed.
And you took the Renaissance, and you threw it away, and you attacked your own species, and you joined with the corporate state and the lies.
You worship Al-Qaeda, you worship ISIS, you worship burqas, you worship anything destructive of the West.
Because the West is such a beautiful goddess, you were ashamed of yourself, beholding.
I think he believes the globalists are working with aliens for sure, and he sees himself as fighting against aliens, so that word might actually be appropriate in the goofiest way.
So, Alex is in that place, and it's super weird that as the day goes on and it becomes more clear that Trump is going to win, he changes over the course of it a little bit.
But...
Something that I find supremely interesting is that there are a couple of direct parallels, linguistically and stylistically, between the Kavanaugh confirmation stream and the election 2016 stream.
I don't know what they're imagining they're fighting back against, but I'm talking about what more of the real world thing they're fighting back against is women's rights, climate change, unions, those sorts of things.
The Democrats remember the last hundred years when America was asleep.
And they just keep thinking, God, we had them dominated.
We were beating the hell out of them.
We were asleep.
We weren't awake.
You weren't intimidating us.
Now that we're awake and you're, like, slapping us and pissing on our face and trying to destroy our families, all you've got us doing is 24 hours a day thinking about how we get, politically, our arms around your neck.
So that aside, one of the interesting things, I think, is to look at stakes and look at what Alex is presenting to the world as what is going to happen in various...
So here is a clip from the 2016 election day where he's talking about...
So you know how, if you recall that day, it appeared that Trump was going to win and Hillary didn't immediately concede.
A little bit later in the night, she called Trump and conceded and Trump gave his speech.
But Alex, in the intervening period, is convinced that she's not going to concede and it's war.
So, he comes up with this theory that Trump needs to immediately come out and give a speech declaring himself the winner because possession is nine-tenths of the law, which he says twice, which doesn't make any sense.
But he has this idea that if he can get Trump to give this speech announcing that he's won, Hillary can't undo that.
I don't mean to interrupt you, but CNN's reporting continue.
Clinton will not speak tonight.
This is officially from a Democratic operative, Axelrod, on the Clinton News Network.
So, the Clinton News Network has said they will not concede Trump must now immediately come out and say he is the winner or she will have Obama launch a nuclear war tomorrow.
But you have there, if he doesn't give his speech, she is going to have Obama go nuke somebody in order to make sure that he doesn't become president, I guess, or something along those lines.
That's his real negative view of what the globalists are going to do.
So that makes it really weird to hear Alex say something like this on the day that Kavanaugh gets into the Supreme Court, describing his best-case scenario of what is going to happen now that the patriots are in charge of everything.
So, his nightmare scenario on election night is Hillary's going to nuke someone to make sure Trump doesn't become president.
That would be less deaths than multiple billions of people dying, which he's then describing in more present day as being The best case scenario for his movement surviving and winning.
Look, the best way for you to do that, the way that...
You know, results in the least violence is if you just let us win now.
Otherwise, we're going to have to do some of those other 95% futures, wherein, I'm just saying, if you're dissenting, I mean, we're going to win, and maybe if you're in the way, you know, I mean, a few billion people are going to die, but we're going to win!
I have very little doubt that that's at least a large piece of what he's imagining the best case scenario is that he's describing there, which I think is...
Profoundly scarier than his very baseless idea that Hillary Clinton was going to have Barack Obama nuke somebody.
Everybody would have their own competing currencies that you'd have to spend almost your entire time trying to figure out how to transfer among each other.
You couldn't usually, I mean, if you're in like, let's say, Illinois, you couldn't use Missouri dollars in Illinois.
Or if you do, they'd probably be worth less than they are in Missouri.
So, I mean, that would be a fun utopia to live in.
If we end up in, like, some sort of libertarian fantasy world where there's a bunch of competing currencies that screw up all sorts of transactions, everybody's hostily antagonistic towards each other, you know, if we end up in that sort of thing, if only a couple billion people have to die to get us there, hooray.
So, about an hour to go tonight, Brett Kavanaugh was confirmed and defense of free speech, defense of due process, defense of statute of limitations is in place.
We have seen a collection of Democratic Party operatives.
Try to block the nomination of a good man to the Supreme Court.
But really here is a referendum on the intimidation and the bullying of the left.
That's what's exciting.
You've got all these, admittedly, George Soros and Democratic Party and Chinese government funded.
That's even in mainstream news.
Groups where they kill gays and enslave women and forcibly abort little girls and kill little baby girls.
You've got these women out here on a high horse that believing they're fighting the evil that is men.
So, I mentioned that I wasn't able to find the full videos of the display of cruelty that goes on at the end of the 2016 election stream, which I'm happy for.
I'm glad that...
You know, to not necessarily watch that all over again.
But I will say that there's a couple of very stark parallels that relate to that in terms of my firm conviction is that Alex Jones on election night made, and all of his staff, everyone involved, They went out of their way in order to victimize the people on the other side.
The people who were crying showed videos of them, laughed at them, just made sport out of the idea of like, ha ha, look at these losers.
Aren't we great?
We're not them.
They're losers.
And in order to do that, they have to sort of build up this idea that those, you know, I don't know, 20-year-old, 22-year-old girls, women who were crying, were somehow oppressing them.
But be that as it may.
That was the demonstration on election night.
It was what the show was largely about, outside of Alex getting a little bit weird and saying a bunch of stupid bullshit.
The visual that remains, as evidenced by the next day, Paul Joseph Watson putting out that compilation of people crying and him putting wah sound effects under it, what they wanted to drive home is like, look at these stupid losers crying because we beat them.
When the Kavanaugh stream happened, Alex was trying desperately to recreate that.
So he kept going out to Millie Weaver on the street, trying to get video of her finding people crying, and it was unsuccessful.
So he kept trying to make it happen.
The only way he was able to successfully get that feeling back at all was by having Darren McBreen come into the studio, one of his employees, video producer Darren McBreen.
So the two of them...
Could get super cruel about the idea that Kavanaugh going on to the Supreme Court was going to cause liberals to cry.
So there's a young lady who is no longer with the company trying to get a word in edgewise while Joe Biggs, Darren McBreen, and David Knight make some goofs because Alex had to take a break and so they went to that in the stream.
So Joe Biggs is mocking the idea that people are tweeting about anxiety, which I imagine, as we've discussed ad nauseum, there's a lot of people who obviously felt like, uh-oh.
On election night in terms of their safety and their continued right to exist.
Drudge is already calling it for Trump, and also I just tweeted out pictures from inside Hillary Clinton's celebration area, and it's nothing but people filled with tears.
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And she literally hit the glass ceiling of the Javits Center.
But I think he said, of the Java Center, or something like that, whatever the building she was in.
So he was using it as sort of a nice turn of phrase to be a dick.
But yeah, yeah, I mean, that's pretty awful.
So, later in the night, the part that I can't find the video of, because Alex's YouTube channel is gone, they sit around and watch the footage of people at Hillary rallies crying and make fun of it.
Bunch of white dudes and whoever that lady is, and Leanne McAdoo sitting around.
I wrongly have said that Jakari Jackson was there.
He'd quit by this point.
I'd forgotten that.
I think it's all white people.
I don't see a single non-white face, except I believe Dinesh D'Souza shows up.
So, because he couldn't get what he needed during the Kavanaugh stream that he was putting on, but that was the presentation he wanted, he needed to hearken back to the original night where he was super cruel in order to feel it again.
So, they believe that they have a five-minute video that Millie has shot of protesters crying, which they don't have.
They end up playing a video where it's Millie Weaver wandering around a protest and just seeing a bunch of people locked arms, a bunch of people chanting, a bunch of people with signs.
No one's crying.
No one is doing what they need them to do in order to...
Exercise this cruel spirit that lives within them.
So, they don't really get what they want, but they pretend it's there anyway.
You can see, and Alex ends up ending his stream, the Kavanaugh one.
He gives a really long, meandering toast about how this champagne is 1776.
Then he goes off air, realizes that he didn't do a good enough job, and he needs to be a little angrier, so he does another toast, and then slams down the glass of champagne on the table, breaking the glass, and stares into the camera like a madman.
After he breaks the glass.
So there is that feeling of he's not getting what he needs out of this and it's not good to him.
So he has to keep going.
That's why he does like two hours in that Kavanaugh stream because he's not getting what he needs out of it, which is this visual that he got on election night of people crying.
Calls back to what he was talking about earlier in that clip from the 2016 election thing where he's talking about the idea of white Christians, we got you out of slavery, we try to empower women, and now you guys have turned on us.
That is why he feels...
So desperate in order to get those tears.
That's why he's so desperate to get that victimization from them because he feels that they've wronged him by demanding to be treated like equals.
He feels that they have wronged his whiteness and his maleness by asking for equality.
And that's really, really hard to look at.
That's hard to deal with because, first of all, it's so dumb.
So, in this next clip, this one's from the 2016 election.
We jump off the cruelty thing, although I think that that is probably the biggest piece of this.
I really do.
I think that what they tried to do is essentially...
I don't know if it was 100% intentional on election night that that was what they ended up doing.
I think that was where their instincts took them and they loved it.
I think that that cruelty display that they had of laughing at people crying because they feared for their safety, I think that that was sort of an improvisational move.
And then, because it was so good, and they made so much hay out of it, made so many quote-unquote viral pieces out of it, like Paul Watson's from The Next Day.
They tried to do that again in the Kavanaugh stream.
That was the pageant that they tried to put on.
That was the entire point of it.
So, I don't want to undersell that.
That's the big piece.
But Alex says a couple more really fucked up things that I didn't remember from the 2016 stream that I think I might have buried away somewhere in my subconscious, but boy, I don't remember him saying shit like this.
This one, this next one.
Listen to the language he uses here.
Listen to the specific syntax.
Because if you follow pronoun reference, you're going to hear something supremely fucked up.
Originally, only white males who owned property were given the right to vote in this country.
That constituted 6% of the population even having a hypothetical say in voting.
It wasn't until 1856 that the last state did away with the whole owning property stipulation to allow people to vote, but even at that point, it was still just white male renters who were now allowed to have their voice heard at the ballot box, a good 80 years after this country was founded.
In 1870, the 15th Amendment was passed which prevents states from making laws to prevent voting on the basis of, quote, race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
Naturally, most southern states immediately put into place tons of restrictions meant to disenfranchise the new black voters, and thus Jim Crow laws came into play.
Fun fact, the Supreme Court pretty regularly upheld those disenfranchising laws.
So really, even though there was a constitutional amendment saying otherwise, in practice, still it was mostly just white dudes who were able to freely vote.
In 1887, Native Americans were granted citizenship, and thus the ability to vote, on the condition that they break their association with their tribes.
They're like, oh, you can vote, but you gotta get out of that tribe.
You gotta get rid of your entire heritage and sort of walk away from your past and everything that connects you to your ancestors, your lineage, all of that stuff, your culture, everything, just get rid of it, you can vote.
So I would consider that not freely being able to vote.
that's demanding a massive sacrifice of people for the privilege of voting.
37 years later, the US government would finally just say, "All right, fine.
You don't have to leave your tribe.
You're cool." But it took them 37 more fucking years.
In 1920, the 19th Yeah.
So that all was still in play.
And though it was founded...
In 1790, residents of Washington, D.C. weren't allowed to vote in general elections until 1965.
And to this day, though they are U.S. citizens, residents of Guam, the Virgin Islands, Northern Mariana Island, and Puerto Rico can't vote in general elections.
Nor can people in American Samoa, though they're not citizens, they're American nationals.
Oh, also a fun little fact I found.
Ethnically Chinese U.S. citizens in many states were denied the right to own property until 1965 as a lingering effect of the Chinese Exclusion Act.
Can't imagine they were allowed to vote while they weren't allowed to own shit.
Well, that's one possibility, and I think it's the most likely.
The other possibility is he is talking about other groups that won the right to vote over the course of history, which is, first of all, dumb to say that your forebears gave it to you and they fought for those rights and were beaten and killed in the process in order to get those rights.
But if you go that angle, if you go that direction, then what he's saying is, so let's say you blacks and women, you were given the right to vote, and how dare you vote in ways that are in your best interests.
It all doesn't make sense from a sensible standpoint.
But it does make sense when you look at it through the prism of a rambling...
Bigot talking on air.
Go to bed, Grandpa.
This next clip is from the Kavanaugh stream, and it's one of the other things that Alex has to do throughout the entire 2016 election stream and the Kavanaugh stream.
He has to present this idea that the left is out of control and they're rioting.
This is a narrative that he needs to use for a very specific reason, which we'll see in the clip right after.
So the streams that he's playing from Infowars.com and Millie and all them out on the street don't show liberals rioting at all unless people standing with signs and chanting is rioting to you.
And if that's the case, then you want to take away people's right to demonstrate or to freely congregate or any of those things.
And the people on the right are very desperately, and have been for a long time, trying to present the idea of all the liberal protesters and things like that are completely out of control.
We've seen it come to fruition recently at one of Trump's rallies.
He was talking about how the left and Democrats have become ungovernable.
It's the rule of the mob and all this.
This is that language coming into its final form.
Alex is one of the first people who was...
Really going out there and pushing it real hard has been for a very long time.
And the function of it is to now try to delegitimize an entire side of the debate.
Look, this is going to be a very dangerous thing, and hopefully...
Society is able to reel this in before it goes too far.
They will not be able to.
It's already way too far.
But the idea that you have the President of the United States going to some weird, unnecessary cult of personality rally and delegitimizing an entire opposition party as being ungovernable, you have now entered into, like, this is what history warns us about.
So the reason that this rhetoric is really important, and the reason that Alex was able to spread it so far and wide within the right-wing world, and I'm not saying he was the first or the only, but he was one of the very strong voices of it, is that it leads somewhere.
And in this clip...
From how his head was feeling on the night of the 2016 election.
And then you realize that you just can't give these people court.
They won't be happy until you've metaphysically stomped their eye sockets in and bashed their brains out.
We understand you can't coexist with us because we're altruistic.
We're strong.
We don't want to hurt you.
We want to build you.
You want to hurt people like a little Tasmanian devil piranha.
And so, as quickly as we can, we're just going to stomp your head in and kick you in the ditch.
And it's no hard feelings.
But it has to be done.
You can go around and fund radical Muslims.
You can fund abortions all day.
You can be a wimp and lie about what you really did.
But we're going to man up to it.
And the final equation, you will belong to the ash heap of history.
No one wants to be around you or with you.
I take no pleasure in that.
But you tried to better better men.
You may have shot humanity in the chest, but to quote Willie Nelson, or was it Merle Haggard, or was it Johnny Cash, you'll never get the best of better men.
Like, that is a complete, like, if he was forced by some Twilight Zone curse to see himself for who he really is, like, that's the only way to truly punish Alex.
Well, yeah, if you had, like, a on-the-road-to, like, the Saul-on-the-road moment, you know, like, that would be the only, that's the only fitting punishment.
Yeah, exactly.
Because what he's saying in there is all this, like, he keeps saying, oh, they pissed on us and they did this stuff.
And the only examples that he can come up with are you fund radical Islam and you fund abortions.
The abortions thing I don't even give a shit about.
I think in the aftermath of World War II, there was denazification efforts that happened that were pretty successful, in the same way that after apartheid, there was truth and reconciliation committees, those sorts of things.
I don't know.
You would need something fairly extreme in terms of levels of understanding and something that would be very uncomfortable for everyone to go through.
But it probably would be the only way to do it without what is the scarier option, which Yeah, I mean, for all of the things that I say, when it comes down to it, the people who most embody the things that I hate are my parents, are my family.
I'm not certain that people who have their minds made up about stuff or are under the sway of very powerful propaganda would be able to get outside of it without some moment that really...
Whether it's what you're describing, some sort of metaphysical mirror where they're able to see the reality or some sort of world event that brings things into sharp focus and makes them realize, oh god, that's really what I was a part of.
I thought it was something else.
Because there's a very small fraction of the people who are on the right who actually support Nazi-ish mentality.
If the inertia of this movement continues along this line of cruelty, and it's only accelerating, it's only getting stronger, they're not losing people.
You know, people aren't jumping ship aside from a couple of asshole columnists who can go fucking fuck themselves.
You know, like, the reaction that's going to break that inertia is only going to become stronger.
Or is only going to need to be stronger and...
Like, what's going to stop this is not going to be good for anybody.
I mean, what's going to stop...
Well, obviously, the way that we're going, what's going to stop this is climate change.
But I also think that if we look at the history of that being attempted, generally speaking, it's not so much the radical empathy and love, it's the people expressing radical empathy and love and then getting the shit kicked out of them.
Yeah, but I think that one of the problems for us fixing everything is something that we've sort of touched on a little bit over the course of these shows that we do.
And that is that the things that Alex Jones and people like him, especially, people who are cruel propagandists, they seek to, whether it's intentional or not, is really fucking difficult to figure out, but I feel like it is.
They seek to get rid of the avenues by which people can have that waking up experience.
In the same way that cults try and limit access to outside world information, like the internet that could disprove them.
Those sorts of things really serve to limit the ability of people to save themselves.
And then it also hurts the ability of you to talk anybody out of it because you'll use primary sources or talk about, hey, Chinese people couldn't own property until 1965 in a lot of states.
And it's probably delusional of us to actually think that there is some sort of flashpoint possible, but it's something that you think about, because that would be the real-world version of the metaphorical mirror, some sort of world crisis event or something like that that would shock people into realizing, oh, what have we become?
Otherwise people, and they're on my side where they're like, we're fu- Right, but they just want to try and get carbon taxes going so George Soros can make more money.
Anyway, Jordan, I don't know if I achieved exactly what I hoped to achieve with this episode, but I noticed those stark parallels between the Kavanaugh stream and the election stream, and I felt they were worth pointing out.
I don't know.
The audience can decide whether it's worthwhile or not, but I knew that there was that cruelty in the Kavanaugh stream that I really felt it was important for us to discuss, even if we didn't go over the entire stream.
Trust us, there wasn't all that much outside of the cruelty that was worthwhile.
Alex just rambles about a drawing of a lighthouse that he made for about five minutes.
The would-be victims of Alex's propaganda pageant that he wanted to put on weren't playing the same game.
They had evolved to the point now where people had organized and were getting more active, whereas the glimpse of Alex as a propaganda outlet had not evolved.
He was trying to do the exact same thing.
So yes, I think that is slightly optimistic in some ways.