Knowledge Fight - #205: September 13, 2018

Sept. 14, 2018 - Knowledge Fight

02:15:42

#205: September 13, 2018

# zach walkaway un alex_jones andy beto_orourke brandon_straka china christianity college_conspiracy conrad_padilla conspiracy_theory cryptocurrencies crystal_iodine dan_friesen deep_earth_iodine donald_trump dr_group economic_exploitation europe facebook fda fort_bragg fuel_freedom_international global_healing_center immigration infowars infowars_narrative islamic_middle_eastern_north_african_immigrants jerome_corsi jeunesse jordan_holmes kansas_caller lgbt_groups media_and_censorship mlm mpg_caps ms_13 multi_level_marketing network_marketing owen_shroyer planet_of_the_apes politics qanon qanon_figure racial_profiling renaissance steve_pieczenik the_road_warrior trump_supporters

September 13, 2018 episode of The Alex Jones Show features Andy from Kansas praising Jones, who then peddles debunked conspiracy theories—$18K per quart for "children’s blood," armed border "invaders," and China executing LGBT people—while Jordan Holmes and Dan Friesen expose their racist, homophobic framing. Jones pivots to promoting Jeunesse MLM, a company with 16 lawsuits and 98.9% of distributors earning under $5K annually, as a way to "defeat globalists," despite its pyramid scheme structure. The episode reveals Jones’ exploitation of his audience, blending pseudoscience, fearmongering, and financial scams under his signature conspiracy rhetoric. [Automatically generated summary]
[Read More]

Participants

Main

alex jones

infowars 18:39

dan friesen

01:12:22

jordan holmes

33:50

Appearances

brandon straka

00:40

conrad padilla

03:55

owen shroyer

winn 01:25

Large

Audio Only |

Scroll

Show episode speakers

Speaker	Time	Text
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a First Time Color.
		I'm a huge fan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Workable dudes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about that boy, Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, we are, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What was the last time you played Pokemon?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Last time.
		Oh, boy.
		I'll tell you what.
		Never.
unidentified		Never.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You didn't even play the original Game Boy Red or blue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, never.
unidentified		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Never really had a Game Boy to speak of.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know this is now becoming the theme for the openings as video game talk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is two times in a row.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not that bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's a trend.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Two times is a trend.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Two times is not a trend.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Coincidence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not even a pattern.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Coincidence or trend.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It requires three to be a trend.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Never played Pokemon.
		Wasn't super interested in it.
		Thought it was for nerds.
		I thought about getting into Pokemon Go for one second when it came out, and I said, nah, it's not for me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd rather read on the bus or something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's so for me.
		It's so much for me.
		I love Pokemon Go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm level 35, Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't even know how many more I can be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How many have you caught?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Too many.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All of them?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Too many.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because you have to catch them all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have not caught a Mewtwo.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is a Charmander.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, hell yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I started with a Charmander, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Charmander's been my opening Pokemon since fucking Red in 1990.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't mean to set you off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I only know about three Pokemon.
unidentified		I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just kidding.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What about a Bulbasaur?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the other one I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, guys, this is a podcast where Jordan knows a lot about Pokemon, and I don't know anything about Pokemon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Except for Charizard and Bulbasaur.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I only know what you tell me about Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is correct.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Before we get into today's episode, which I teased to Jordan before we started, that it's probably one of my favorite episodes of Alex's show that I've ever heard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a big ask to believe that after how many episodes have you listened to, and then collectively we listened to it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we're over 200 episodes of our show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And some of those represent like four episodes of Alex's show.
		That's right.
		I would say I'm over a thousand episodes probably of listening to his show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		I believe you.
		I would absolutely say that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because of all the ones I've listened to, we haven't talked to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, you've got to consider.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All the times that you've listened to three episodes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		700, 800.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a conservative safe estimate.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you've got to consider the ones that I listened to before we ever started this show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that does count.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't listen to him a lot before, but I listened to him plenty.
		I was aware of him, but I just wasn't paying attention.
		I was like, listen to this fucking guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, look at this fucking ass.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look at this guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look at this guy yell.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's a clown.
		Hooray!
		Dance.
		Dance, white supremacist clown.
		Even the KKK needs clowns, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
		Send them in.
		We will see if this lives up to the expectation that I have set.
		I hope it does.
		I think it will.
		But no matter what, you know, it does live up to our expectations.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great transitions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And our listeners who have seen fit to donate to the show.
		We appreciate it.
		Oh, so very much.
		Look, we're working towards things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know who you are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're working towards things, you know, and we really appreciate people helping support the content that they like being put out into the world and they enjoy.
		That's the business model that we have.
		No one is ever probably going to sponsor our show.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We will sink or swim by the very generous contributions that people make to supporting us.
		And we appreciate it.
		And so today I'd like to give a shout out to a couple of new folks who have joined up with the team.
		I'd like to say, first of all, thank you so much.
		Nilak, you are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, I'd like to say thank you to someone else who's just joined up and decided to support the team.
		We thank you so much, Crystal.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Crystal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, finally, before we get down to business, I'd like to say thank you to someone who took their pledge, their existing pledge, and bumped it up a bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Mulan, for helping us get down to business.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We appreciate it.
		Is this a Mulan reference?
		I don't understand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's get down to business.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I much rather go with Barry Manilow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's get on with it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's get on with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just wondering when will my reflection show who I am inside.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Doc, that's copyrighted, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What, quoting?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I didn't sing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to get sued.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're not going to get sued.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have perfect pitch.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I did when I was nine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Someone who I believe has perfect pitch, though I have not heard her sing, is someone who is now a globalist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much, Shannon.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
		Four stars.
		Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
		Someone, Sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.
		Daddy Sharp.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much, Shannon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you out there want to support the show, we would appreciate it very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you feel the stirring in your loins, go for it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what that means at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a button on our website, knowledgefight.com.
		Up at the top, it says support the show.
		Just click it.
		Join up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And if you have an advanced copy of the live-action Mulan, even if it's an unedited version, I will watch the shit out of that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'll do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know you will.
unidentified		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is not an idle threat.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, it is Friday, and so, you know, what we do sometimes on Fridays is we check in what the fuck's going on with Alex in 2018.
		Last we checked, he'd been kicked off everything, pretty much.
		Apple app, Apple to app free.
		Black IPs have kicked him off.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is what happens when I have a little coffee.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Will you aren't?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so he's off the iTunes store.
		His app is gone.
		He got kicked off of Twitter.
		And, you know, I think the last time we checked in was just after he went to Washington and acted like a dickhole to everybody.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, when he was a dickhole to everybody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so, you know, we kind of assumed this is just going to be a diminishing return situation for him.
		He's going to paint himself as a Lenny Bruce-type free speech warrior.
		And whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I felt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He slowly loses mind as his quality declines, you know, like Lenny Bruce.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
		I felt like, you know, the week's ending.
		We've got to check back in.
		We've got to see what's going on in the world of Alex Jones.
		And what I found is bar none, the best proof that he is fucking done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		He is done.
		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I know he's going to keep going, but, like, he is straight horse fucking himself in the worst way possible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm teasing this a little bit too much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're shot and frightened today is what we're doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		By the end of.
		Well, only because what he's doing is massively unethical.
		But like, I don't mind.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Only because what he's doing is massively.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't mind taking pleasure in this level of awful because he's going to hurt other people by doing what he's doing.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to spoil what this is, but by the end of this episode, you guys will understand fully what I'm talking about, and you'll laugh too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, this is a lot like if Scott Pruitt was lit on fire right next to me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'd be like, hooray, this is hilarious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
		Yeah.
		You might.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I might.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		You'd walk away.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You'd walk away.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd be like, look at the time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
		Somebody should help this guy.
		I'm going to get out of here, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Someone just tweeted at me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
unidentified		I've got to download Pokemon Go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a Charmander over there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to see you later, dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll see what you did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now let's see what Alex did in an out-of-context drop from today's show.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		My neck is freakishly large.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't disagree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I disagree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got a big old neck, baby.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like a guy who can look into the mirror and evaluate himself appropriately.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will also say, unrelated to why this is one of my favorite episodes, there's a stretch of this show where Alex is trying to work out some body image issues.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we're going to start where Alex starts, which, hey, guys, guess what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now that Alex isn't having to worry about most of the things he had to worry about before, turns out he takes a real hard trip back into blood libel territory.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The stress level, you can cut with a knife right now.
		I could almost not go on air today because of the magnitude and the stress and just how serious things are.
		Not for me.
		People keep asking how I can handle all these unprecedented attacks.
		Only Trump's been attacked more than I.
		It's now official.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How's it official?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How's it official?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		NASA did a survey of all the attacks on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if Alex wants to use the social media stuff as his big case for it, then he's been attacked more than Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's been attacked almost as much as any woman on Twitter saying things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He should up his claim here.
		Like, I'm attacked more than Trump.
		I'm banned from stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, why not?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, because Trump is his god king.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, he can't overcome the best.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would be blasphemy for him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has to still put himself in a subservient position like a fucking coward.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We haven't gotten to the blood libel yet.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because the globalists are evil and they're taking our country and our world over, it's the only chance we've got.
		And I've used this analogy many times.
		There have been famous cases where people weren't even good swimmers, but a big ship had tumped over and they had to swim 50, 100 yards in total darkness to get out, and people are able to do it.
		Just like those kids had never been scuba diving in the mine collapse that happened a few months ago, and they got a crash course in it and they made it out.
		It's not currently desperately trying to not be a slave.
		I would not be fighting tooth and nail at my own personal risk if we were just being taken over by some superior capitalist system.
		I would simply try to be part of that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hmm.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a spoiler for later, but hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, what did he just say?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You would try and be a part of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What I would do is I would give up on all of my principles and try and be part of the winning team.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would sell out if we were being taken over by a superior capitalist system.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's almost like something happened in 2015, and I did exactly that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now he's going to do it again at the end of this episode.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm all about adopting things.
		I'm all about things that are better marrying them.
		I mean, that's what you do.
		I don't want to be at war with everybody, but the globalists are really nasty, devil-worshiping, blood-drinking pedophiles.
		And you know, you shit all the news.
		Oh, children's blood goes for $18,000 a quart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You see that all in the news?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's mainstream news this week.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I told you that 20 years ago.
unidentified		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's in the medical literature.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know rich people here in town that told me 10 years ago, I ought to go get children's blood.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I said that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know people who do it.
		So don't tell me.
		I know.
		And that's why they hate me because the globalists tune in and they go, this guy has got our number.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		$18,000 a quart?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what the retail or wholesale price is on children's blood.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what's the MSRP?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		But I will tell you what he's talking about is that there's sort of a fad among rich people of blood transfusions from youth, younger people.
		That is something that is real.
		But it's like people who would go to oxygen bars and shit like that.
		It's just some sort of thing that rich people, the idle rich need something weird to sort of get there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just proof that there's no reason that these people are richer than us other than weird sociopathy and a confluence of luck and events.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Circumstance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, all of them.
		These are all really stupid people.
		Really stupid people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, if you see, not all of them.
		There's as wide a spectrum as there is in any other walk of life.
		Yeah, right.
		But like if you watch a lot of celebrities with unlike, what would you call it?
		Unshepherded speech.
		You listen to some of them talk for long periods of time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Unfiltered.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Uncurated.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, that sort of thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They reveal like, oh, you don't know all that much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Unabridged.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
		So, like, yeah.
		And, you know, when you're rich, some like really expensive thing comes along.
		They're like, I'm going to fucking do that.
		How many rich people do you think own $10,000 crystals?
		You know, like, Scott Pruitt.
		It's the same sort of thing.
		Like, when you're really rich, you run out of things to spend your money on that you actually need, and you start investigating getting youth blood.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And like if you were like a human, you might say, well, I'm never going to be able to spend all of this money I have.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So why not instead of buy a dumb bullshit $10,000 crystal, I could just give it away.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, ironically, then you end up being a globalist in Alex's eyes, like Hamdi Ulakaya or Warren Buffett, the people who have signed the pledge to give away most of their money before they die.
		Right, exactly.
		But then you become a demon and you're drinking children's blood.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is where we get into the blood libel aspect.
		That is very literally anti-Semitic canards from history.
		Pretty much.
		That is an expression.
		Alex is directly using historical anti-Semitism to paint the globalists as demonic pedophiles who drink children's blood, which we don't need to get into it again.
		It just bears mentioning.
		That's overt.
		There's no other way to describe that because that's not what they're doing.
		No one's drinking blood.
		It's transfusions and it's stupid novelty bullshit for rich people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever drank blood?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Only my own.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But then, you know, like if you, yeah, if you have a cut and you do that, I don't imagine that it would be something that's easy to get through.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, I wouldn't, I don't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to take just a glass out of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't even fucking want tomato soup.
		But probably less delicious than tomato soup.
		That's my point.
		That's your point?
		I don't want clemato.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What other red liquids do you not want?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Clamato.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Clamato?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I already said it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Beet you it.
unidentified		Cranberry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What about cranberry?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Cranberry is okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Cranberry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Cranberry is okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Beet juice?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever had beet juice?
unidentified		That might be the Pokemon of juices.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I may not have caught that one yet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think I've had beet juice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, now we've got a real sponsorship right there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anybody who sells beet juice, hook us up for your new slogan, beet juice, the Pokemon of juices.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And imagine the victory of them winning me over.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, just like, I'd have never had beet juice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God, this is the best.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We would never, we would never advertise a product that we don't believe in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan, I'm guaranteeing if we get a beet juice purveyor, then we got it done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So this is not Alex's main narrative.
		This is just him rambling about bullshit.
		But almost immediately after that clip, he does get into what would be his varsity narrative for this episode.
		And boy, it's thin.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So the ultra-massiveness straight ahead.
		I haven't even told you what it is yet.
		There's a hurdle.
		It deserves.
		It's on Infowars.com.
		And it is thousands of armed men and camouflage coming across the U.S. on horseback.
		This is an invasion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		The British are coming.
		They're finally coming, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, hold on.
		Hold on.
		And I don't mean to poke a hole in this right away because I'm sure there's more to it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very soon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure there's a Pokemon a hole.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're doing this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're doing this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, too much coffee.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying that maybe if you're riding on horseback, the camouflage isn't that big of a deal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The horse had to be camouflaged at that point, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And also a silent horse.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It would have to be a stealth horse.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or a silver stallion, like the highwaymen sing about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not a markup on itself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you hit it with silver, you could see it even better.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't have a mark on its silky hide.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it reflects moonlight at least.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
		Look, we're going to get into what he's talking about.
		And suffice it to say, just up top, this is a load of bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thousands of...
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's being rushed to break, and that's why he's got to describe it so, like, very dramatically and very shortly.
		Yeah.
		Thousands of men across America with guns on horseback.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And look, here's the thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's no way to deal with a threat of this magnitude, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm laughing about this because it's so stupid, and we'll get into why.
		But legitimately, if that's what he's selling to his audience, the only solution is kill all those people.
		Right?
		I mean, like, because he says this is an invasion.
unidentified		If it's an invasion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If the country is being invaded, all of his rhetoric would lead to the only conclusion being find these people and kill them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And now, you don't need to kill them because, as I imagine is the case.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex has screamed over and over again, we will give them no quarters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So that means kill them.
		But I mean, you don't need to.
		It's pretty easy to capture a lot of dudes on horseback, what, with the whole modern world we live in?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, I imagine if we had just one of our one battalion, go back in time, they could win every war by themselves.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're going to come back with guns, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but I mean, throw rocks at them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Basically, Genghis Khan, but with guns.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go back into the old West and shoot at their horses' legs and make them dance.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or put out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then they can't run so fast, and then you catch them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Put out a strip of road spikes.
		Pop the tires on those horses.
		Yeah, absolutely.
		Can't compete with them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it threw a shoe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can't compete with that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So also, are they using roads?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like these men on horseback, they're not using roads.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Where they're going, you don't need roads.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, look, this is some nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is some bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll get into exactly what he's talking about, I believe, in a couple of clips.
		But Alex has got to percolate on this.
		He's got to really ruminate about how this is just like the movie The Road Warrior in Mexico.
		Because he's talking about people coming across the border.
		Spoiler alert.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even in the movie The Road Warrior, they had cars, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of a big deal in the movie The Road Warrior that they did have cars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he's talking spiritually.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he isn't describing them as literally coming over on horseback.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		That part is literal.
		That part's literal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why is that part the literal part?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, okay, fuck it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll get into.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		Let's just move on.
		Go to the next clip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I need to give an explanation of just the broad strokes.
		The Daily Caller put out a video that Alex is reporting on that purports to show people crossing the border from Mexico, and there were a couple horses in the video.
		That is why Alex is expressing that he didn't mention in that clip going out to break that it's people coming across the border.
		He's just saying they're coming across America.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're coming across America in horses.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'll explain in greater detail why this is bullshit in a second.
		But I realize that it's only fair that I explained that much.
		Anyway, back to the Road Warrior thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thousands of illegal immigrants are being born after being hid inside of horses and walking across the border.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the easiest way to do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like tauntons.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, here's where we get to the Road Warrior metaphor, and it gets bad before it gets better.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It is literally Road Warrior.
		Type in cartels building their own war wagons and tanks.
		And there is footage that comes out of Mexico.
		YouTube takes it down, though, because they don't want you seeing it.
		Not that it's even violent.
		It is violent, but it's not as graphics as what's on TV.
		Okay.
		And it's giant war wagons shooting at each other, attacking, blowing up, running over people.
		And you'll see like 15 war wagons and 50 cal machine guns and stuff exploding and people just running.
		And Charlie owns seven incredible narco tanks built by Mexican cartels.
		Beyond Mad Max as Business Insider.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Another movie.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		See?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Beyond Madison.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Exactly what I told you.
		It is Rub the Thunderdom.
		Warrior.
		Except it's not a guy named Humongus going, just give us the gas.
		We spare your lives.
		No, he's not wearing a Jason mask.
		It's not a bunch of gay punk rock dudes that are doing a killing.
		You know, that's sci-fi fiction.
		It is Mexicans with huge satanic tattoos that worship Satan and the Grim Reaper.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty gay and punk rock.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Tortures children to get demonic power.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Imagine a Road Warrior like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's also pretty blood libel adjacent, quite frankly.
		But he's talking about Mexican.
		So it's really still bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's really bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's real bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty much the most racist thing you can do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's like he's saying it's like Road Warrior, but it's worse because it's Mexican.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they're demonic Mexican.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		They're not gay punk rockers.
		No.
		They're demonic gay punk rockers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex has really lost any kind of credibility when he calls people demonic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it's just kind of like a fill-in insult epithet here you can use to misalign these Mexicans.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They do listen to a lot of Morrissey, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, it gets worse in this next clip because he gets back to the Road Warrior thing a little bit later, and he also combines it with another movie reference that is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've never seen footage this powerful.
		It's up on Infowars.com.
		We can't tweet it out, but you can.
		Heavily armed individuals caught on camera entering country illegally through Arizona Ranch.
		And it goes on to say, shows thousands of illegal aliens marching into the United States uninterrupted because there is no border wall, no border patrol to stop them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they have assault rifles.
		And they have horses.
		So it's like Road Warrior meets Planet of the Apes.
		Where you got people on horseback.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nice save.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because they're on horses.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like Planet of the Apes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Careful.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
		So it's like this subspecies of human that survived the apocalypse has been combined with this other subspecies of ape.
		And it's not that I'm describing all Mexicans as a subspecies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Boy, it's easy for me to do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It sure seems like I am, but like multiple subspecies at the same time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I found this video.
		It's a 25-minute video.
		And actually, if you read the Daily Caller article, this is from clips that this guy has had hidden cameras up at his house since 2016.
		So it's over the course of what could be two years and nine months now of footage.
		You know what I'm saying?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I watched it.
		Alex is saying it's thousands of immigrants who are coming in.
		First of all, there's no way to know if these are illegal immigrants or just people who are wandering around in the wilderness.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's got a hidden camera.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no time stamps on any of this stuff.
		A number of the people appear to be Caucasian.
		So there's a lot of very imprecise stuff going on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Caucasians can illegally immigrate.
unidentified		No, no, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's, you know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Equal opportunity.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
		So I set out to watch this entire video and count literally every person that's in it because I'm like, thousands?
		I don't think so.
		So I watched it.
		I got to the 10-minute mark before I saw literally repeated footage.
		It's the same footage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And also, if you watch it, it's like these are you see the same people from different cameras.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's the same group of people at different points along the way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But even assuming that every single person that you see in all of these videos are a unique person, within 10 minutes, I counted 374 people.
		So extrapolate that out, multiply that by two and a half.
		You got what?
		Maybe 800 people?
unidentified		Yeah, exactly.
unidentified		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like I'm saying, there's repeated people.
		It's nonsense.
		This is all bullshit.
		And some of them do have guns, but the vast majority don't.
		You know what I'm saying?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Most of them just have big packs on their back.
		And like Alex is saying that's all drugs, but it's equally likely that it's rations.
		It's equally likely that a lot of these people have supplies in order to get through this journey through Central America up to the United States.
		There's nothing in these videos that really leads me to believe that, first of all, this is an invading army on horseback.
		And second, like I said, there's only like maybe three or four horses in the entire thing.
		And no one's riding them.
		Well, people are standing next to each other.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can't ride them on your way to the fight.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You got to fight while riding them, so you want to keep them well rested.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's just good tactics, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's incredible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've studied Hannibal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's incredible exaggeration going on here.
		There's incredible unclearness of what the video even is capturing.
		It's very irresponsible the way Alex is presenting this because, like I said, in that first clip, the only reasonable conclusion to come to that Alex is advocating for is kill these people.
		They're an invading army on horseback with heavy weapons.
		So this is a white supremacist propaganda that's being put out.
		Now, I mean, sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who edited the Daily Caller, which is run by Tucker Carlson.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or at least was started by Tucker Carlson.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, if I understand.
		Sorry, I'm not sure if I caught the whole first part.
		It's just some guy's house.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Some rancher.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He has hidden cameras.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's in the article, but I don't really care who he is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So he sends in the raw footage and they edit it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or do you think he edited himself?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dude's 76 years old.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, he definitely did not edit it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe his son, like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would assume that Daily Caller did it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So we're in a.
		So that's why I was a little bit confused because I was just imagining this dude who has a bunch of hidden cameras who is editing this footage.
		And that's just a guy who's filled with so much hate that he can't even get past the fact that it's not a big deal and his own footage proves it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, he has a 50,000 square acre ranch, I believe.
		I believe that was the total given.
		Just huge.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's massive.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so if he has cameras around that place, and what he's capturing over the course of almost three years is maybe 800 people, assuming that they aren't the same people at different locations, that's not impressive to me.
unidentified		Nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's really weak.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm surprised it's not more.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And some of them do have guns, yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But again.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So does the fucking rancher?
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, sure.
		But like I'm saying, too, is that you don't have proof that these people are illegal, undocumented immigrants coming in.
		All you have is a video of people walking around.
		And so if they do have guns, you need to do better to prove that what you're saying is the reality before I'm going to get mad about a couple of them having guns.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would have actually been like, if he had just said, you know what?
		I think there might be some people hunting on my land.
		I'd be like, yeah, fuck yeah, you've got a thing there.
		I mean, it's illegal immigrants carrying guns through the.
		You got a larger Florida.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You want to file a complaint about trespassing.
		I'm on your side.
		I'm with you.
		People shouldn't be on your land.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then to the other issue, most of them are wearing camouflage, but I don't give a shit about that either.
		People who are coming across, you know, trying to get up to America, of course they're going to wear camouflage.
		That doesn't prove they're an army or something like that, like Alex is trying to present.
		It's all just a load of bullshit.
		So anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, if they were wearing sniper suits and moving very, very slowly, like if all of this hidden camera footage showed was like a whole bunch of hay bales just slow, like over the course of two and a half years, they go from one edge of the rich to the longest.
		That's perfect.
		I'm on your team.
		That's an invading army, is what that is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's footage I can get behind and publicize.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will help you with that.
		So that's a load of bullshit, and that's his sort of varsity narrative throughout most of the show, which is disgraceful and really ugly.
		But it leads to this next clip where Alex spins a conspiracy about what he thinks is going on with immigration.
		And then at the end of this, he makes a very bold, very bold claim.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the UN now stages in Guatemala and El Salvador three giant migrant centers for all over the world to give them several thousand dollars apiece, a bag of food and other necessities, clothing, you name it, and then staging zones, and the Mexicans let them go up the railways.
		They say don't go into Mexico.
		And then they hit the U.S. with the Democratic groups waiting to snatch them up to be a client group they control for illegal voting, political activities.
		And now MS-13 has been confirmed to be carrying out assassinations for the Democratic Party.
		That's right.
		MS-13 is now a murder army.
		Whoa!
		Bacon lovers.
		We ship free.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Completely forgot that I left in that clip of the commercial.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The commercial is what makes it perfect.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jarring juxtaposition.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		MS-13 is now a hired kill group for the Democrats.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bacon Lovers Unite.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We now ship free.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like, all right, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		First off, UN, I got a guy who can hook you up with some buckets.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't need money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know that guy, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very reputable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We can get some buckets all over this place.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hell yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, to the point of whether or not people are helping immigrants on their way up through Central America or anything like that, I would say that that's a right Christianly thing to do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The idea that without some sort of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What Christianity are you talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, without some sort of water or anything like that.
		I mean, it's the same thing.
		You're not going to stop people from trying to seek refuge in America.
		You're not going to do that.
		No, you're going to stop them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's Venezuela's job to make sure that immigrants don't get into America.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's just true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But as long as the world operates in the way that it does, you're never going to be able to stop people from trying to save their own lives by getting out of bad situations.
		They're going to try and come to America.
		And if you crack down and you're like, you're evil for giving them water along the way, all you're going to do is make sure that more of them die.
		You aren't going to stop the impetus to come to America.
		You're not going to solve the problem you want to solve.
		You're just going to be cruel to the people who are desperate and fleeing a bad situation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's never happened before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody knows that when you ban abortion, good things always happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a perfect analog.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No babies ever get aborted.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a perfect analog.
		Yeah.
		You get rid of legal abortion.
		All you do is kill women.
		That's all you do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And just as Jesus said, the way you treat the least of these is fucking dope and keep on doing it, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You remember when Jesus said that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Remember when Jesus said, bacon lovers?
		Jesus shipped bacon for free.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, now that was a really why he got crucified.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Jews could not be having somebody shipping free bacon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm into this conspiracy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is just crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's better than Alex's version of this stupid Democratic voters.
		But I mean, that's just, you know, white nationalist rhetoric.
		It's due rigour for them to just be like, all the Democrats want is people to come vote and they can't vote, but they still vote and they vote in dead people's names.
unidentified		And ah, whites only.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's whites only.
		Because for years, Alex has been.
		I don't know.
		I think that back in the day, maybe I might be a little bit wrong about this, but my sense from listening to a lot of stuff in 2008, 2009, Alex is pretty against racial profiling because at least on some baseline level, he understands that group culpability is not a way to proceed with life.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You would hope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I believe that to be.
		Now, I don't know if he is perfectly consistent in that back then, but I get a strong sense from him that, like, you know, you don't commit a composition fallacy and assume the group is represented by bad examples of individuals.
		Unfortunately, in 2018, he is really into racial profiling.
unidentified		Of course.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They haven't stopped one terror attack with all that TSA crud.
		They need to profile Islamic extremists.
		Period.
		Problem solved.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Problem solved.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they profile conservatives.
		Facebook and all these systems discriminate against us.
		You're part of a radical sect of Islam.
		You're connected to these groups.
		He goes to that database and flags your butt.
		You're going to get pulled out and you're going to get questioned.
		You're going to get extra screening.
		That's what you do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that, first of all, I don't trust Alex's assessment of what constitutes a radical Islamic group.
		So I think that conversation could get awful murky awful quick.
		I think it's a great all of them, anybody who appears to be at all of Middle Eastern descent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, exactly.
		Just like if you were to, I don't know, say that everybody who looks like a member of a radical militant white supremacist group should be profiled, problem solved.
		We don't have to deal with radical white supremacist groups anymore, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're using his logic to prove that it's stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, yes, I am, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this is stupid.
		This is very disgraceful.
		I mean, I'm going to use that word a lot today, but like, that's so terrible.
		Even for Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's embarrassing for Alex, too, because, I mean, he's not, but there was a time he was better than that, I think.
		And to hear him advocate for out and out racial profiling because he's afraid of Muslims is just pathetic.
		For someone who wants to act like he has principles and he's standing up for America and what it stands for and all this, to hear this kind of drivel come out of his mouth is just like, just go home, man.
		You're out of the game, man.
		You're like an old dude yelling about music today.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what you do.
		You have outlived your usefulness even to your world.
		And that's bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's rough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's bad because people, these old assholes like Jerome Corsi are still useful.
		You know what I'm saying?
		It's nuts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For Mueller.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, certainly useful for that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, look.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I suppose he does have a he does have one point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Careful.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is that the easy way to keep immigrants from escaping their terrible situations to come to America is to turn America into a shithole they don't want to come to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it seems like they're doing a pretty great job at that right now.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or just say none of them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just like make it illegal to be different.
unidentified		Yeah, that does seem like different in heavy quotes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That seems like that's their goal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody hates America more than people who call themselves patriots.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I might be a little bit wrong in terms of giving Alex this sort of pass or credibility for his past self of being against racial profiling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But this next clip is absolutely anathema to what he would have ever believed in mere years ago.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In fact, I'll say it.
		Apprehensions of illegals are up 240%.
		According to ICE, it isn't enough.
		Trump is in dereliction of duty.
		Two years in.
		He's not done enough.
		I want, and it's in the Constitution, full military.
		I want the Army.
		I want the Marine Corps.
		I want 200,000 troops on that border.
		I want it shut down.
		One million percent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in the past, Alex has called for the National Guard being used to police the border.
		Right.
		And everyone called him a hypocrite.
		And I said, no, he's not.
		Because that is something that can be done under the direction of the governor of the state.
		So if the governor of Texas wanted to call in the National Guard to do that, it would not be against Alex's principles.
		Him saying that the federal fucking government should do it is very much against Alexander.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, What are you talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Federalized troops would be operating within the state, and maybe the governor wouldn't be okay with it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is directly against everything that we've heard him talk about when we're looking at 2009.
		All of these 10th Amendment resolutions and shit like that.
		All of them.
		This is completely counter to it.
		He doesn't even bring up the idea of a governor's support for anything like that.
		This is him advocating for federalization.
		It's him arguing for tyranny.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't you remember how much he loved Jade Helm?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Loved it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't you remember how many times the federal government has mobilized troops to do something very innocuous?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exercise.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Some training for him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He loved it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He loved it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is immigrant.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bring federal troops into my state, says Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, I don't know all the governorships along the Mexican border, but we just need to imagine a scenario wherein one of them is Democrat, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And is against the idea of bringing in the federal troop, or even a Republican who's like, no, absolutely not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Then what you have is a crisis that Alex should be on the side of the governors, but now will not be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's lost his way entirely.
		This is where people should be calling him a hypocrite.
		Like before, there were articles and publications.
		Right-wing Watch was putting out stuff about how Alex is calling for the National Guard to come in to stop that train of immigrants that were coming up, even though that train of immigrants is something that happens every year.
		It's a symbolic sort of protest thing.
		It's not even like some sort of threatening group of immigrants coming up from Central America.
		But they wrote about how Alex was saying bring in the National Guard when if they understood what Alex stood for, they would know this isn't a problem for him.
		This fucking is.
		It bothers me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No one's going to talk about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, the only other way that it could make sense for his principles is if he wants the federal army on the other side of the border, which would be declaring war on Mexico.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think his anti-interventionist stuff would be against that too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His Ron Paul boner would be quelled by that idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you could say that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't want to get in foreign entanglements.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would be so costly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is fine, though, if you are on horseback.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is true.
		Or if anyone is near a horse in a video that's on the Daily Caller, and then it fucking is very reasonable to go to war.
		Absolutely.
		So we know from looking back at 2008, 2009, that Alex Jones did not know who George Soros was.
		His globalists that he would talk about were the Rockefellers, the Ford Foundation.
		Those were the people who were... Rothschilds.
		Absolutely.
		They were in play back then.
		Those were the people that were his big enemies.
		And he, most recently, on the episodes that we've done, we've seen George Soros be brought up, but Alex is almost confused by it.
		He's not someone who's in play.
		So that makes me think that this next clip is bullshit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You let one of these third world countries collapse into you, you go bankrupt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I forgot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did you?
unidentified		What's George Soros want?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dogs.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Before he spent tens of millions of dollars buying up the media in the U.S. and buying PR for himself, when I was a young man, when I was a kid and when I was in high school, my mom always had PBS on cooking dinner.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Whenever I came home or whatever, she was always there at 5, 6 o'clock for like an hour and a half cooking a huge, you know, six-dish meal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Gourmet food.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So I showed up for dinner a lot of times.
		Bring my girlfriend over.
		And it was always on PBS and ABC and everywhere that George Soros is a criminal.
		He overthrows countries.
		All he wants to do is collapse things, and then he's an insider traitor.
		Not anymore.
		He's the sweet little Nazi collaborator.
		We almost kissed his little wart-covered booty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe anything about that.
		First of all, Alex had no idea who Soros was or his importance in the world until at least sometime in 2009.
		And I don't believe that PBS spent all of their time in the 80s talking about how it was a big deal in the 80s.
		PBS, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't remember when PBS went on that Soros jag?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I remember when he was subject of investigation on 321 contact.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, PBS, where did you lose your way?
		You were once the vanguard in the fight against Soros.
		Come on, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe this for a fucking day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That fight against Soros was supported by viewers like you.
unidentified		And the letter L. For.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I should have chose a different letter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, in this next clip, Alex is going on a bit of a rant about China and how they're evil and they like to kill gays.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's way different.
unidentified		I only keep from Republicans?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I only keep this clip in because I think Alex is relishing talking about this a little too much, and it's going to lead to him having a little bit of a breakdown later, so it's good for context.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There was one photo of two lesbians, two 16-year-old girls, that got caught in their dorm area having sex, and they took them out and they blew their brains all over the walls.
		Want to see those photos?
		Type in.
		But Tim Cook's gay, so it's okay.
		It's so liberal to blow women's brains all over the wall.
		If you're liberal and you're gay, then it's good.
		And the homophobe Alex Jones hates gay people because he doesn't blow their brains all over the wall.
		And he's not a Nazi collaborator like George Soros.
		Think how sick that is.
		Think how evil that is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, look, all I want to say about that is that voice is disgusting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And what he's expressing is disgusting because, as we've covered, ad nauseum, he is very much a homophobe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is, whether or not he thinks that I'm cool.
unidentified		I'm cool with that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm a libertarian.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's viscerally angry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whatever you do in your own home is fine with me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's viscerally angry at the LGBT community and likens them to pedophiles all the time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but that's because they don't like him.
		And there's no reason that they wouldn't like him other than if they were what he purports them to be.
		Definitely not that he purports them to be such.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So when he's talking about that, like shooting their brains on the wall.
		It's just you're just getting too into it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's gross.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it leads to this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I just don't know how I get called homophobic and all this mega crap.
		When I say you should not have people sexualizing kids, period.
		And they have the LGBT group saying I'm a homophobe when it's Apple working with China that literally murders gay people.
		And I'm not saying that because our next guest is gay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What about Russia?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They murder gay people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Democracy.
		It drives me crazy.
		Sorry, we'll go to our guest here in a moment.
		I'm getting mad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you should be because you're caught.
		You're caught in a little web of your own lack of ability to wiggle around this stuff.
		You're screaming, what about Russia?
		Yeah, absolutely.
		Fucking talk about that then, Alex, you dumb twat.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if you hate, if you, yeah, if you hate it whenever governments and people find it acceptable to kill gay people, boy, you got a lot of options there, dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or like you even sort of referenced earlier, if the right wing really does become ascendant and that sort of religious conservative wing comes in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They want it to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the things, the policies that they would try and put forth in terms of making LGBT youth feel more weird, conversion therapy becoming more recommended and that sort of thing.
		All it's going to do is lead to those people killing themselves and youth.
		I mean, that's the end result.
		That's drastically homophobic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, the right wing in this country has accepted that it's not okay to just murder gay people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But they, like with abortion, they will do everything possible to make sure they die.
		Yeah.
		Like it's, hey, hey, we're not killing gay people.
		We're just creating all of the circumstances necessary for gay people to die.
		It's not like we're doing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We believe in self-determination.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we want you to determine to fucking kill yourself.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because we determine that you should.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So fucking horrific.
		Deal with that, Alex.
		But look, so his next guest is gay.
		Cool.
		Great.
		So he has Skype problems, and they're not able to get a hold of him.
		And so Alex is trying to vamp.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a metaphor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is so funny.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me tell you something that's very important while we're getting our guest on.
		And it's this.
		Just like our information here on air is world-changing.
unidentified		Words, I'm saying words.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Just like our information is powerful.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Stretch.
		Stretch it out.
		Stretch it.
		We're having technical issues.
		Stretch.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Our products are the same.
		Good work.
		You know, I don't just sit here and tell you that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Keep going.
		We've still got issues.
		Come on.
		Keep it rolling.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Gather mic up and excuse me.
		A lot of stuff going on here behind the scenes.
		Now.
		Just like our information.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Start over.
		Yeah.
		Stretch it a little bit longer.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Our products are game-changing.
		Cool.
		If you don't have oxygen, you die.
		I know they'll say that's a conspiracy theory.
		If you don't have water, you'll die in a week, generally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Water is three days.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If you don't have iodine, you die.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He finally got there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Clearly, having someone talk in his ear about we can't get the best.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, we can't get there's an issue.
		Come on, stretch.
		You gotta.
		And we are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Products.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Our products are.
		What's that?
		Hold on.
		I'm hearing something about.
		They're good.
		They're good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, it's fun.
		Not fun.
		For him to talk about you need oxygen to live, you need water to live, considering his boy Trump just said that only six to eighteen people died in Maria, in Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico, when in reality, a lot of people died because they ran out of oxygen because there was no electricity, and a lot of people died because they didn't have water.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand how just denying the death toll is not enough to get you removed from office.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You should go to The Hague.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shouldn't that be?
		That should be the biggest story.
		A president denies Earth.
		You should be removed then.
		That's the 25th Amendment.
		Look, that's all you need.
		The president doesn't believe in reality.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have to let him go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We got to let you go, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump, you're cool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got to go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You got to go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would be like TJ Lavin on that season of the Real World Road Rules Challenge.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, it'd be like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When CT punched Davis, and the shot passed out drunk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And TJ Lavin had to come in and wake up CT.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's like, hey, CT, sorry, man, but you got to go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You got to go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got to go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
unidentified		The Real World Rules Challenge is my Pokemon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's drunkenly in a stupor in his bed.
		He's like, what did I do?
		He's like, you punched Davis, man.
		You got to go.
		And he's like, who?
		Who's that?
		That gay kid?
		Oh, CT?
		You got to go.
		Anyway, that's what Trump is like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You got to go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You just got to go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How is he not going?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It seems like there should be something going on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
unidentified		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Power.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		People want power.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God.
unidentified		God.
unidentified		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's nuts.
		Anyway, they finally get their tech difficulties worked out after Alex vamps for what seems like a political season.
		It seems like an entire four years coast to coast that he's doing there.
		But he finally gets him on the phone.
		And I don't want to listen to this guy too much.
		I don't even remember what his name is, but he's the guy who started that hashtag walkaway trend on Twitter.
		The idea of it is that he's a Democrat, and he's trying to get people to walk away from the Democratic Party because they don't represent him anymore.
		They've done so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, depending on his reasons, I'm willing to entertain that notion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not to say he has any nefarious intent or anything like that, but if you want to look into it, there's a great salon article about how they did some research into the accounts that were promoting that hashtag after it was put out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there is a very, very high incidence of Russian bots that were promoting that walk away campaign.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's so strange how that tends to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's probably a coincidence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's almost like somebody pays them to do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nuts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Almost like they're not even a government arm and more like a for-hire service that if you have billions of dollars and want to spread an idea, you can just hire them and they'll give it visibility.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep, seems that way.
		But anyway, he put on Facebook that he was going to go on Alex Jones' show.
		Posted something to the effect of Patriots.
		I'm going on InfoWars.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, then now I'm not.
		If you say Patriots, I'm kind of out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So after that, his Facebook got locked.
		Good call.
		He was understandably mad about it.
		And so he sent an email or whatever to the powers that be at Facebook.
unidentified		Wham.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They looked at it and they're like, oh, this was a mistake.
		Here is your account back.
		He got it unlocked.
		This all happened before Thursday.
		This is the Thursday.
		I didn't even mention this.
		This is the Thursday, September 13th episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		By the morning of Thursday, he's had his account back open for since the night before.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was Tuesday night or Wednesday night whenever he got all of his access back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so it was really quickly resolved.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because it was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's actually a pretty solid customer service.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's way better than Comcast.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		So he, unfortunately, is still going around everywhere and showing up on Alex's show on Thursday, trying to pitch the idea that he just said InfoWars and he got banned for 30 days.
		When in reality, by this point, he has his account back.
		They apologized for the mistake that they made, and everything should be fine.
		But because Alex wants to try and pitch the idea that if you say InfoWars, you're banned from everything.
		He's having him on and letting him spout his bullshit, which is really about him trying to raise money for a walkaway march that he's trying to run.
brandon straka ▲ ● ▼		If anybody would like to contribute, they can go to walkawaymarch.com and please click fundraising.
		That'll take you to our fund me.
		Of course, we're always looking for any kind of sponsors or donations from people who at a larger level, if they're able to.
		But I'm telling you, I was devastated yesterday, Alex.
		I mean, I was ready to shut the march down entirely because I thought, how are you?
		I'm still going to pull this off if I can't communicate with my people.
		Like I said, my team and I have kind of worked on a workaround.
		We think it's going to be okay.
		But emailing what they're trying to do, they're trying to get people like me who are trying to have a voice and make a difference to cower and say, you know what?
		I'm not as they're bigger than me.
		They're stronger than me.
		I might as well quit.
		I might as well give up because how can I fight against them?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think you should.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can fight against them by writing an email and getting your fucking account back, you dick.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not hard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is such bullshit.
		They're trying to present this image of like, I'm, oh, I've been, because I have, I'm so enterprising, it's like David versus Goliath.
		I found a workaround to get my account and be able to access and talk to people.
		When it's like, no, Facebook recognized that they made a mistake.
		Whatever it was, whether it's some capricious employee who put his account on a suspension, or if it was some sort of automated thing that it got caught somehow, they said, oh, sorry, fucked up here.
		Here's your account.
		Sorry, we unlocked it.
		Our bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not hard to do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's trying to present it as like, we're these fucking oppressed people.
		Like, no, you're not.
		Stop it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Stop it.
		I do like the time somebody uses workaround.
		Like, you're going to need to give me specifics on your quote-unquote workaround because it makes it seem like, oh, we outsmarted them.
		That's not what a workaround is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's acting like he is a hacker.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We broke into their code and we coded stuff like in the movie Swordfish.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
		Facebook said me a culpa and acted appropriately.
		So I don't care about the rest of the shit he's talking about because it's nonsense.
		And quite frankly, we got a bit to get through of the best stuff ever.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But before we get there, Alex has a little prediction about what's going to happen to President Donald John Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I hope he gets killed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's a trickle bit from George Street right now.
		I watch this video.
		Now, you'll buy that.
		I got some ocean front property.
unidentified		I got some oceanfront property in Arizona.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, I got a signal from high-level folks.
unidentified		You are going to have oceanfront property in Arizona shortly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They know what's going on.
		And not from Steve Pieczenik.
		It was from people at Fort Bragg.
		And they said.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like it's from Steve Pachenic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They said, Al.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We believe March is when they're going to try to kill the president.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		March!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they said, we're ready, and just you need to be ready.
		And I said, should I relay that info?
		And they said, well, the enemy may change their operations, but it's definitely being directed from China.
unidentified		Oh.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they plan to kill Trump in March.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I thought I'd just let people know that Fort Bragg's preparing for that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fuck that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They think something's in March of next year.
		But who knows?
		The enemy could change their plan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know when it's happening.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thousands of armed men on horseback with giant drug packages coming across one ranch.
		All confirmed.
		Infowars.com, Daily Caller.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whoopty shit.
		All confirmed.
		Do you see in there how he plays his games?
		He's like saying that Fort Bragg.
		It's not Steve Pieczenik telling me this, which leads me to believe that first of all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's totally Steve Pieczenik.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Either that or he recognizes that Steve Pieczenik has been burned and been wrong way too many times on his show.
		He knows that everyone's going to assume that Steve Pieczenik's saying that.
		Like, no, no, no, it wasn't.
		It wasn't him.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So then he comes in with this.
		They think it's going to be in March.
		They're going to kill Trump, but everything can change.
		They can change their plan.
		All we know is that China's behind it, but when it doesn't happen, just know that I said things can change.
		The globalists change their plans all the time.
		So I'm saying this, but it doesn't really fucking mean anything.
		Now, the other thing is, I think he is trying to evoke the Ides of March.
		Yeah, he is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because in the past, he has referred to Trump as R. Caesar.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has used Caesar as an analog for Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a really bad thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's even worse than you think.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because Alex's big book that he based on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he just said that the government should bring their fucking military across our goddamn nation and he described him as Caesar.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you think there might be some sort of, I don't know, reference there?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I don't care about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, for mine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For me, what it goes to is that in None Dare Call It Conspiracy, the book that Alex Jones has based most of his career on, Caesar is used as an example of what happens when a psychopath is born super rich.
unidentified		Huh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the book, Gary Allen is describing the idea of like, hey, there are these people who go out and murder, you know, because they're born crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's just these vicious psychopaths out there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Serial killers exist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		But they are only able to kill like one or two, three, four, five people because they were born into humble circumstances.
		But what happens when a psychopath is born into the lap of luxury and power?
		That's what happens with Caesar.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't imagine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Caesar is used as an example of that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So when Alex compares Caesar to Trump, he's indicating that either he hasn't read the book that he's basing his life on, or he's completely lost track of anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a good thing that this is purely hypothetical.
		It's a good thing that we have no real-world concrete examples of psychopaths being born into wealth.
		That's a laughable situation, Dan.
		How dare you even bring it up to me?
		It is so beyond the realm of understanding.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
		But Gary Allen's assessment is a little bit baseline, real surface.
		But at the same time, yeah, sure.
		Psychopaths are born into rich places.
		Oftentimes, though, what you end up with is, well, no, they do the similar shit, the poor psychopaths do.
		But a lot of times they can sublimate it into like, you know, getting their jollies off of crushing competition and stuff like that as opposed to actually murdering people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is something that isn't accessible to people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or they can only vote.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you're William Randolph Hearst.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		And there are other examples, too.
		But be that as it may, Alex is fucking stupid.
		That is crazy nonsense.
		Trump isn't going to be killed in March, but Alex already knows that and he's laid track for it.
		Plans can change.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, March is also a good time to say now, because then you've got a long wait, and people will forget that you even.
		Yeah, people forget you even said it.
		And anybody who did bring it up, then you've got the hedge.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You've got at least three months of pretending it's going to happen and four months of time to get it out of people's memory.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And in that time, you can raise a bunch of money with the panic of what's coming.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The summer of rage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The summer of rage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The winter of our malcontent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So Alex Mao wants to talk about the immigrants that are in Europe as opposed to the immigrants that he hates here.
		I don't think what he's saying here is true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's it.
		That's why 80 plus percent of the Islamic Middle Eastern North African invaders who were brought in the last five years of Europe, now it's 12 million of them.
		80 plus percent never get a job.
		And you know who they deport?
		Anyone that converts to Christianity.
		This is in the news.
		One that gets a job.
		So you're out of North Africa or the Middle East.
		You go, I want to be a Christian and I want a job and I like this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't like that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Your ass is shipped out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't like that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Get out of here.
		You're like, you want to walk around your nightgown all day and wipe your ass with your hand and do all the rest of it?
		You are staying.
		You are golden, baby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is the most non-stop racism I've heard from our show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, we've covered a lot of nonstop racism, but man, this is like heavy hitting haymakers, left and right of racism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And just the wide spectrum.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's going after Mexicans.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Mexicans, get out of there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		North Africans, get out of there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the LGBT community.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's going to be able to get to the bottom in there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So on some level, I do think that our prediction of like he's going to have no reason to hold back anymore, it seems like it's fairly accurate.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He can just call immigrants invaders.
		I mean, he does that anyway.
		That's new.
		But he seems to be relishing it a lot more.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He does seem to enjoy his newfound lack of consequences.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But look, he has a theory here in this next clip about what happens if you are against InfoWars.
		And as someone who's against InfoWars and has been putting out two to three long podcasts about that very thing every week for two years, I will say that what he's about to say happens when you are against InfoWars, not true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you sure?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I will withhold judgment because I am also against it, but I don't know what he's about to say.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So maybe he's right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, two false starts there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
		If you lie about InfoWars or Trump or anybody else, they push your video.
		The big thing about QAnon is...
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Alex would suggest that we're lying about him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And no one is pushing our shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No one's pushing our shit, man.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, sir.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, so that's funny.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But what he says next is even funnier.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The big thing about QAnon to know is they never get demonetized.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They just got banned from Reddit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it gets definitely pushed aside.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because it's literal delusional garbage.
		I mean, I've talked to folks.
		Trump hates sessions.
		He hates Mueller.
		You know, it's a real death battle.
		It's not, oh, Mueller's good and Alex is bad.
		He'll sue me and get Mueller.
		Alex is actually the bad guy.
		Q said, we all go down the rabbit hole.
		We all go together.
		This cult talk.
		I'll get to that later.
		But this whole situation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex says all the time we hang together or we hang separate.
		How is that in any way different than what he's saying?
		QAnon is saying that's cult shit.
		Now, beyond that, this is so fucking funny to me because he's been vaguely anti-QAnon for the entire time it's been going on, but only because he wants Zach to be more important.
		He wants his version of QAnon to be the one that goes viral, and it fucking didn't.
		So he's been petty and jealous about that.
		But at the same time, Jerome Corsi has been on his payroll, and Jerome Corsi was writing a goddamn book about decoding the truths of QAnon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it.
		So this whole time he's been paying Jerome Courcy to write also, I'm not going to lie to you.
		What?
		Very simple explanation, Alex.
		Here's why QAnon is more popular.
		It's a non, and your dude is named Zach.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		QAnon?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fun to say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exciting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Much more.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't know who that guy is.
		Zach?
		He was on Save by the Bell, man.
		Nobody's going to fourth wall break this bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And also, I think that one of the things that appealed to people about QAnon is the idea that you have to put the pieces together yourself.
		There is an element of like.
		It's a nice little mystery.
		I think you said it on a recent episode, like, make me feel like I'm smart for figuring this out.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that QAnon appealed to people's desire to pretend they're detectives and like figure out, oh, what does this cryptic nonsense mean?
		And Alex doesn't provide them with that because he's just like, I'm talking about China trying to kill Trump and these immigrants that are coming in or their battle system.
		And they're on horseback and they have guns.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Too specific.
		Too specific.
		Back off.
		Back off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And our products are game-changing.
		So it's like, you don't have any subtext.
		There's nothing.
		There's no mystery to figure out here.
		And that's why whenever we go back and listen to episodes to try and trace his path on stuff, it's not that hard.
		It takes a long time because you have to listen to the episodes and you have to digest what he's saying.
		But in terms of solving a mystery, he just tells you everything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, pretty much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is comforting for the people who listen to him, I assume.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe, but I don't think they're paying attention.
		The only thing that you really have to do is be able to suss out when he's telling the truth and when he's lying and bragging and stuff like that.
		Which I think if you listen to it enough, you can kind of get the tone in his voice.
		There's tricks about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, at this point, I feel like even without any of your research, I would be able to just bite ear, be like, that part's bullshit.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, you know, it sounds like it might be plausible, but guess what?
		I heard the lilt.
		That's a lie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the plot of early H.G. Wells book.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		Listen up, Morlock.
		Fuck off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm going to skip this next clip because it's not really all that important.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just Alex saying that he thinks that the Border Patrol is nice now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they're nice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are they too nice now?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he said too nice, but he's saying they're cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, are they?
		Not sure.
		Are there more children in detention now than there were just a few short weeks ago whenever the government, whenever the justice system said that this shouldn't fucking be happening, period?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He denies that that's the case.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't raise.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The children who are being held, it's good that they are.
unidentified		Yo!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then also, the ACLU is somehow to blame.
		I don't care.
		I don't want to get into it.
		The ACLU set up the system.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is not what the ACLU does.
		But I don't really give a shit.
		I mean, I give a shit about the people who are being mistreated and stuff like that.
		But I don't really care about Alex's version of it because it's not really that much of the episode.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just sort of in passing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's so much more important that at this point, Owen Schuryer joins the proceedings.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why is Owen Schroyer there?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because Alex is having some fucking issues about his masculinity, and he needs to sit down with Owen Schroyer and get to the bottom of it.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan, this is a mic down for me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The rest of the episode is mic down for me, huh?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		This is only going to cover a little bit, and then we will have the coup de grace again.
		All right.
		But this clip, this made me laugh so fucking hard when I was listening to this.
unidentified		Nothing like some good old country on the open road, huh?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, you ever see these guys that strut around trying to act big and tough, and you look at them, and it seems annoying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like they're, you know, trying to act like an alpha male.
		But, you know, maybe I was the person that was cowed because it's up to us that our alpha males actually care about society.
		That I'll let the weird little twisted beta males who crave power dominate us.
		And they know that we have a conscience to manipulate us.
		So here's an example.
		I've got, and I'm not bragging about it, it's actually freakish.
		Yes, you are.
		My neck is freakishly large.
		It's 20 inches, and it's not fat.
		And my chest is freakishly large.
		I mean, my chest is almost as big as Arnold Schwarzenegger's.
unidentified		Hell yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, then I got a big belly, too.
		But the whole point is, is that ever since high school, like big tough guys are saying, oh, you're a punk.
		You want to fight?
		Well, you walk around with your chest stuck out.
		And I was like, no, I'm just standing up straight.
		My dad would say, stand up straight.
		I'm not standing up straight.
		It looks ridiculous.
		And so the point is, is that my so since I was a teenager, I kind of like act like I'm a little wizard.
		And when I walk around, I kind of just do like this so people don't recognize me or mess with me.
		But you know what?
		Now that people attack me for the first time in my life, it's not an arrogance, it's a pride.
		Now I went walking into a grocery store this morning.
		I actually walk like a man supposed to walk.
		And everybody was looking at me and they were like, damn, that guy looks like a badass.
		And the whole point was, all of that now is the fact they're attacking me and I'm more proud than I've ever been.
		And I don't say like I was ashamed of myself before.
		I wasn't trying to stand out before because I was already confident.
		But now that they want to come boo at me at tables and boo at me on the street and take that down and like, you know, just being like 18, try to make me ashamed of myself.
		Now, because they're doing that, now I'm going to actually hold my head high.
		So now I walked into the hotel the other night to this interview and I walked out in there.
		And I walked through my head up, chest out, everything else.
		Every woman basically came running.
		And again, it's not bragging about, oh, I'm this tough guy.
		I'm handsome.
		It's not that.
		It's confidence.
		It's that America has the will, has the spirit, has the destiny, has the future.
		But those of us that are strong, we are reserved because we're almost embarrassed by our power.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		By the way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Dan, hold on one second.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That whole time Owen Schroyer is sitting there silently like, daddy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Could you please play the first, I don't know, 30 seconds of that clip one more time?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Nothing like some good old country on the open road.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's all you need, Brad.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever seen these guys that strut around?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There we go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Keep going.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See these guys that strut around?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You look at them and it seems annoying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Seems annoying.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, trying to act like an alpha male.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Trying to act like an alpha male.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I was the person that was cowed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, now you can stop right there.
		Okay.
		You ever see these guys, Dan?
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who walk around?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The chest out.
unidentified		Annoying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Chest out.
		Looking annoying.
		Trying to act like an alpha male.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trying to flex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever heard the second fucking half of that clip where he describes exactly that goddamn behavior?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I got a big old neck.
		I walk into the store with my chest out.
		And ladies come around me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you.
		You.
		I'd like to remind you that, like, there's one of the most projecty projection I've ever heard projected.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Earlier in the episode, Alex said that there's an invading army coming from Mexico.
		And by the way, the Eastern Seaboard is about to be hit by a giant hurricane that he never mentions once in this entire episode.
		But he does have to spend time talking about how big his chest is to Owen.
		He has to impress Owen because Owen represents youth.
		It's what he's lost.
		Owen represents.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, what if he drinks Owen's blood?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He might.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What if he spends $18,000?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would he know the exact price of a quart of a child's blood if he did not buy children's blood, Dan?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Seems like he might have an end to the market.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think he knows.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, Owen really, I think I touched on something there.
		He represents that thing that Alex cannot get back.
		And I think he, like, the two of them have this weird paternal child relationship going on.
		Like, Owen really wants to impress Alex, and Alex really wants to impress Owen.
		Like, there is a, it's not an employee-employer relationship we've got going on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a weird dudes-or-gross relationship.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a point, I don't have the clip of it, but there's a point where Owen is like, Alex, Alex, Alex, you are a badass.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Calm down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Stop.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has to reassure him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a badass.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's nothing less badass than somebody being like, hey, no, you are a badass.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're such a badass.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who's a badass?
		That's you.
		That's who you are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So ostensibly, the reason that Owen's supposed to be on is because that video that was in the Daily Caller came out.
		And Owen went to a, I guess, liberal meeting of some sort.
		I don't know.
		Sure.
		And he asked the speaker about it, about the, like, what about all these armed men coming across the border?
		And also, what about abortion?
		And the speaker is like, ooh, looks like InfoWars is here.
		And you're like, anybody else got a question?
		What's really funny is that after that, Owen is like, I've got a stack of news here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's literally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Going to this meeting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I've never been prouder.
		He has a stack of news.
		Never been prouder.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You could almost see a gleam in Alex's eyes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So proud of his little using his own expressions when he goes and invades people.
		Also, the other thing that I thought was really fucked up, I don't have a clip of this because, again, we got a lot to get through.
		Owen says, if you kick us off Facebook, we'll come into 3D reality where God is in charge, which leads me to believe that he thinks God isn't in charge on Facebook.
		What?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Somehow, Facebook has usurped God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is troubling.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Man, now I really want to find out more about Owen Schurier's very clear daddy issues.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would say that there's something going on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's not drift on the wrong side of the Goldwater rule.
		We don't know him.
		I do know that he hero worships Alex in a very unhealthy way.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex likes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Man, it's going to be.
		It's going to be.
		Owen Shroyer is cruising for the worst decade of his life in the next two years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fucking at least five-year InfoWars hangover.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's going to do the Brad Pitt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck, now I can't remember the name of the movie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's Fight Club.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're not supposed to talk about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's the one where he goes on the ship.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Seven years in Tibet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it was the other one.
		He's on a ship.
		He was smoking opium and he grew his hair real long.
		His wife was Native American for a while.
		Fight Club.
		Okay, you're right.
		That was Fight Club.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we have another clip here from Owen and Alex just having a bull session.
		This is like, they both really need to talk to somebody about their bodies.
		And unfortunately, they're doing it on air to each other.
		This is weird.
		But it really is something that you should probably talk to a therapist about.
		I think there's some dysmorphia going on here.
		I don't want to judge them for it, but I do because it's on air on a show where you're saying that immigrants are invaders and shit like that.
		So go fuck off.
		You don't really get much sympathy from me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it's kind of embarrassing.
		You don't walk around like I'm one of those big guys.
		But I am a big guy, so I shouldn't be embarrassed of it.
		I'm just saying I'm looking a hunch over.
		They've actually made me come out of my show.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Actually, this is an interesting path to go down, Alex, because there's this whole trend right now happening about body shaming, right?
		And so it's like, if you're overweight and obese, like they want you to show off your body like, I mean, women are wearing like yoga pants now that, I mean, it should almost be illegal.
		But like if you're actually in shape like a fit guy, like sometimes, Alex, it's like weird.
		Like I feel bad, like if I go out in a muscle shirt walking and there's like a bunch of 3% body fat?
		Probably something like that.
		May have 45 already on the other day.
		But it's like, if you walk around in a muscle shirt and you're a big, tough guy or whatever, like you're kind of like, oh, yeah, thanks for rubbing it in.
		You know what I'm saying?
		But if you're someone overweight that just chooses to be overweight and then chooses to, you know, scoot around in the store on your scooter instead of walking and stuff like that, like, oh, it's like going to the antifa meetings.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		These women go, I love Satan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I kill my babies and I stink.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Real quick, he's saying anti-fametings, but that's the exact same thing he claimed about when he would protest abortion rallies.
		He's just reusing material.
		This is hacky.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is like if this is like if there was a sketch where Woody Allen wore an Arnold Schwarzenegger suit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, this is exactly the kind of neuroses that would come out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's weird, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's super weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's gross.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then also the idea that Owen is like, if you're too hot, people hate you.
		It's like, God, just fuck off.
		Everyone's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've heard this line before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's stupid.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was dumb then.
		It's dumb now.
		You're not getting any smarter.
		Why do you find why are you coming to this like it's brand new?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but because that's what all of these people are: the Ben Shapiros of the world, the Jordan Petersons, the Sam Harris's, the Stefan Mala News, all of the intellectual dark web.
		All of their stock and trade is really just rephrasing conversations we've already had as a society and we've rejected out of hand.
		Like, oh, that's stupid.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the same way that that's what Owen's doing here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What if toxic masculinity acted like it was smart?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What if women really are fucking stupid?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, what if Tim Allen was right all along?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What if there are actual qualitative differences between races?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's an interesting conversation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, what if, you know, like, really who everyone is judging is people who are too hot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, aren't they the real victims here, Dan?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Aren't they the real victims?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If we just don't call people fat and say that they're ugly and stupid and pretend that there's a morality based to people's physical appearance, the next thing you know, we're going to be in Harrison Bergeron.
unidentified		And I'm going to have to wear glasses that make me blind because my vision's too good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fucking baby.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you know what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel so bad that we should outlaw people that I find unattractive wearing tight clothes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What a fucking baby.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What a baby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Owen has one more thing to say here that I think is really funny.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And actually, it changed some of my political beliefs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, not in the way Owen would hope.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, Beto O'Rourke, a fake name, they put Beto in his name to, you know, make him, you know, votable.
		They think Hispanics will just, oh, vote a, vote a, vote.
		It's like Sylvia Garcia.
		Is that your real name?
		I mean, I don't know.
		These Democrats, they always manipulate anyway to get votes.
		But Beto O'Rourke plays a concert with Willie Nelson.
		So Willie Nelson is now promoting Beto O'Rourke to defeat Ted Cruz, which is bad.
		Ted Cruz is a great voting record.
		Beto O'Rourke is an anti-conservative, anti-Trump liberal nut job, phony Democrat.
		So what am I going to do?
		I can't compete with Willie Nelson.
		Wait a second.
		Maybe I can.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, you can't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, hey, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me, Owen.
		I know you got an inflated view of yourself.
		Still not going to touch Willie Nelson, my friend.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, I will say that absent any other information, saying that, is that her real name, I don't know, is an expression of racism.
		That is absolutely.
		Because you're not.
		You know what?
		It's very easy to find out if something is someone's real name.
		You can just look that up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can.
		How?
		Especially public figures and people who are sitting in office.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Name one way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Google it.
		So you can do that.
		I don't care.
		I'm not even going to look into that person, Sylvia Garcia.
		I don't give a shit.
		I believe that's her name.
		And unless Owen's going to present me with some sort of evidence that it's not, I just see that as an expression of him questioning somebody's minority bona fides or something.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, Beto O'Rourke is an interesting case because Beto is not his real name.
		His birth name is Robert Francis O'Rourke, but he started going by Beto in his primary school days because Beto is a Spanish nickname for Robert.
		This probably had something to do with the fact that he grew up in El Paso, which I'm not sure if you know this, is literally on the border of Mexico, and 80.7% of the population of El Paso has some sort of Hispanic heritage.
		He went to Carlos Rivera Elementary School in El Paso High School.
		At school, by the way, El Paso High School is a school that the Klan tried to rename Sam Houston High School in 1922.
unidentified		Great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good work, guys.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Beto has Beto has grown up surrounded by and immersed in Latinx heritage.
		And the idea that most of his friends growing up were probably Hispanic makes it complete sense that he would end up with a Spanish-inspired nickname that stuck.
		I think Beto's a fun name.
		I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm fine with it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, I was a bit wishy-washy about Beto until Alex and Owen made me look into him a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he's pretty fucking great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm all in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know, he's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Though, I would support a sack of potatoes on the ballot against Ted Cruz.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Beto pushed me over the line when I learned that he used to be the bassist in a band called Foss, which featured Cedric Bixler's Avala from At the Drive-In.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he did.
		Oh, he was.
		What do you mean you didn't know that?
		That's the only thing to know about Beto Rook.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		He's progressive or whatever.
unidentified		But he was in a band with the guy from At the Drive-In!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on, dude!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's nuts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the Mars Volta?
		This dude, fucking Beto, president for life.
		Actually, no, scratch that.
		At the Drive-In as a concept, president for life.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of that doesn't hold up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of it does.
		Anyway.
		A lot of Mars Volta doesn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A lot of Mars Volta doesn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Little bit indulgent there, Sam.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, man.
unidentified		The.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's the name of it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Rats in the Sanitarium?
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		No, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That album.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Comatorium, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That one's a great album.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great album.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Later albums?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Little self-indulgent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will say, from the jump, a little self-indulgent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just a little bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It worked better earlier, but who can?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great, great drumming.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All still better than Spark.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really great drummer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, let's move along.
		Can't get too bogged down in the world of old-timey yelling rock.
		I don't know what to call it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't worry about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, that's not my genre at all, but my friends were super into at the drive-in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad they were because I enjoyed the hell out of them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, man.
		I love a band that could put together three concept albums.
		I'm always going to go with the.
		Look, whether they're good or not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just love Dan the Automator.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do love Dan the Automatic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's nothing with concept albums.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have we come to it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have come to the point where.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Your life became great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Not my life became great.
		But we have definitely the strongest indication that Alex Jones' life is not great.
		Which makes me giggle because he's a pile of shit.
unidentified		Yeah, fuck off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This starts with what I would describe as an absolute indication that he listens to our show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then by the end of this clip, we see where the future of InfoWars lies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And my friend, it ain't a good place.
unidentified		From the front lines of the information war, it's Alex Jones.
		Poets tell how Pasha fail.
		And left his living in the cheap hotel.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The desert's quiet.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Cleveland's cold.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex, if you want to donate and become a policy watcher, there's a link.
unidentified		Is it knowledgefight.com to save a few for lefty two?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		God, we could do ethics at karaoke.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What about the bridging of worlds?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm out.
unidentified		He only did what he had to do.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And now he's grown old.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hard to believe Marl Haggard died.
		Was this your last year?
		Last year.
		Conrad Padilla is here.
		I'm really impressed with how smart he is.
		And I brought him here because we're doing a business venture together.
		Doesn't want to get into that.
		And that's fine.
		He wants to get into the college conspiracy and just an example this, but I want to get into InfoWarsYes.com.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		InfoWarsYes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		InfowarsYes.com.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, I'm not going to tell you what this is just yet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But just know it's bad news.
		Okay.
		Also, I believe that Merle Haggard died.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Does anybody know who owns InfowarsNo.com?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think someone did buy it.
		I saw a tweet.
		I think maybe his ex-wife bought it.
unidentified		I think Kelly might have bought InfoWars No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is crazy that Alex wouldn't buy that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty funny.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But to know, like, I mean, he didn't own InfoWars.com when he started InfoWars.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, someone else was sitting on that for a really long time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the idea that he wouldn't cover his bases and get Infowars No is like, yeah, that's Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if it was me and I was going to come up with knowledgefightyes.com, we would also own Knowledge Fight No, Knowledge Fight Maybe, Knowledge Fight Possibly, Knowledge Fight Indetermined.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just good planning.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, Alex explains that he's going to invade Europe, which is cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		By himself?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then gets back to this idea of how many horses does he have?
		Many.
		But then he gets back to this idea of the college conspiracy that Conrad Padilla wants to talk about.
		Also, by the way, I had a really tough time with figuring out who Conrad Padilla is because there's also an MMA fighter named Conrad Padilla.
		It's not him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not him?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Different cat.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Different cat.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So I just want the listeners to know: obviously, this is something good to get it on the ground.
		Level of InfowarsYes.com.
		Just like I told you, Trump was good enough getting into the beginning of it.
		And they're also not wanted to be sponsors and supporters.
		So we like that.
		But I already heard about them for years.
		And then we're doing a lot of stuff in Europe.
		That's where they're in the top three companies in England and Germany and places.
		So that's perfect for our European invasion we're about to launch.
		I mean, you'll never know we launched it.
		I mean, the enemy listens to my phones.
		They know what we're doing.
		But let's just leave it at that.
		The European invasion will begin.
		Get the British invasion with the Beatles and stuff.
		Well, get ready for the American invasion with the InfoWar.
		And I'm just going to stop right there.
		We're going to get involved.
		Just enjoy it.
		Give the listeners real breadcrumbs.
		As one of us goes, we all go.
		But Conrad Padilla, thank you for joining us.
		You've got the floor for the rest of the hour.
		Get into the college conspiracy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's going to invade Europe.
		There's world leaders involved.
		You're just fucking talking about Nigel Farage, who gives a fuck.
		And if you want to go with the Beatles analogy, now is not the right time.
		The big news about the Beatles is that John Lennon and Paul McCartney jacked off together.
		So I imagine he's just saying that him and Nigel Farage did a little bit of mutual masturbation.
		You know, that's what I'm guessing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you're in the biggest band in the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		At the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And you've had sex with literally everybody there is to have sex with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The only thing left for you is to jerk off next to the guy who's also fucked everybody, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't find anything wrong with that.
		I don't even think that's a fun story.
		I don't think that all the puns that people are working out.
		Like billion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really didn't know that that was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that real?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that was a story that came out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that sounds great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, that's like David Bowie and Mick Jagger.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Where did you not see the billion people?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because I'm off Twitter.
		I'm off Facebook.
		I'm off all of it, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fucking billion people tweeted come together.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the simplest way to go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, he's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm so happy for them, just like I'm happy for David Bowie and Mick Jagger when they fucked.
		Good for you guys.
		Have a great old time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or Richard Pryor and who was that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now I can't remember.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ernest Hemingway?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Was it Ernest Emmingway?
		I don't think it was.
		Why was that your pull?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it was Bogart, Humphrey Bogart.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
		No.
		No, it wasn't.
		It was some actor.
unidentified		Wait, why would it be Humphrey Bogart?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if Humphrey Bagard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And getting Merle Haggard out of my head somehow jumped who cares.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan, I hate to break it to you, but Humphrey Bogart, too, is dead.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was Marlon Brando.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's who it was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sounds right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Quincy Jones was talking about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
		On that fantastic interview that Quincy Jones gave.
		That was such a fucking delight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All these kids don't understand music.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, Humphrey Bogart used to fuck Richard Pryor.
unidentified		I don't know.
unidentified		Whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey.
		Hey.
		Much like rich people infusing young blood as a novelty.
		Sometimes, you know, if you're not gay, you still got to, you're rich, you're famous.
		Got to go give swing a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You get high as fuck one night.
unidentified		You just figure, hey, what are we doing not doing this?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nothing wrong with experimenting.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, the college conspiracy keeps coming up, and you might think that that has something to do with student loans being abusive.
		You might think it has something to do with people not being necessarily prepared for the world outside by the educational system as it is.
		And that second one is kind of close to what Padilla wants to talk about.
		But I'll let him lay out his version of the college conspiracy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		Well, our whole system, Alex, teaches you to go to school, get your higher education, and somehow you're going to go out there and get this job that's going to pay you a whole bunch of money.
		Well, what's happening right now is you've got kids right now who have master's degrees that are working at Starbucks and Minnesota.
		They can't find.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		By the way, Starbucks has great benefits.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		The job because everybody's doing the same thing.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		Now, there's a.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And even the Huffington Post admission should be abolished.
		90%.
		You never get your money back.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		College?
		Well, the biggest problem we have right now is people don't realize the debt that's being achieved.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think college should be abolished.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		The college debt that's happening right now that in most cases doesn't even have to be paid back.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		Well, somebody's going to have to pay it back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why?
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		So our system is teaching.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, it's actually a good higher education.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		You can get a bunch of debt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They made it a lot.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		By the way, you can't buy a house away that you can actually effectively run in your life.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So they're literally putting a ball and chain on them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Indentured servitude.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Yes.
		And I think that's what the whole point is: that our system's not teaching one of the most important things, which is entrepreneurship.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, no, that's not the problem.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		I look at entrepreneurship as, you know, some people have an issue with Trump being in the office.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		Well, Trump's an entrepreneur.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he's not.
		He's the fucking beneficiary of nepotism on a grand scale.
		And on top of that, fucking white nationalism.
		He is a product purely of white nationalism.
		This is a man born, raised, and supported by a KKK member who was then elected to office purely based on how racist he was.
		Trump is emblematic of white supremacy.
		Trump is the dumbest, least fucking valuable human being on the goddamn planet, supported by this goddamn bullshit world that we live in.
		That is fucking unsettling to describe him as an entrepreneur.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan, look, I agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You said you wanted to get out of here before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
		I'm sorry.
		Just listening to that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty words.
		It's pretty bad.
		So the college conspiracy, as I hear him laying it out, is that they don't teach entrepreneurship.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is, you know, I mean, I don't think that that's necessarily the main problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		None dare graduated conspiracy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I would be willing to have that conversation with someone if they were to bring it up.
		You know, like, that to me isn't like, how dare you?
		Or anything like that.
		I don't find that position to be that wild.
unidentified		Don't they have like specific degrees?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Aren't there specific schools specifically for entrepreneurship?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, but also, I mean, I think you could make an argument that, you know, you got to have a biology credit in most undergraduate degrees.
		You got to have a chemistry credit in most universities.
		And I know from going to college, I didn't need to have a business class or anything like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I could see an argument being made that, like, in terms of preparing people for the life outside of prison.
		Outside of college.
		Outside of college, it would be beneficial for them to prepare and have some sort of an understanding of economics, business, that sort of thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		really feel like that's high school shit like you should sure freshman year you should have like then you're passing the here's Here's how fucking credit cards work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But a lot of times, home economics and that sort of stuff, or like civics classes in high school, are prerequisites and they are required.
		And they don't do a good job.
		All you're doing is pushing the buck back further.
		Wherever you do it, people should be prepared in some way.
		Now, whether you want to make the argument it's in high school or it's in college, I'm listening both sides.
		I'm fine, again, with that conversation.
		Now, it's unfortunate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a self-serving argument.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, surprise.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, would he perhaps have some sort of maybe he's putting together if he thinks that the colleges aren't doing it, are you saying that he might think that there's an opening for someone to step in and do it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To teach entrepreneurship?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You might be way too lofty.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm sorry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is he instead selling a VHS tape where he gives advice?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're not far off.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a pamphlet you can buy for $25.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Conrad Padilla was like a trader, like in stocks and what have you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was unhappy with his life.
unidentified		Oh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is where, in this next clip, dude, this is a mic down very seriously because this is where everything is going to change for Alex.
		Remember, he brought up InfoWars Yes.
		We're going to find out a little bit about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're going to all say InfoWars Yes soon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to say InfoWars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		So what I started realizing was this is not what I want to do for the rest of my life.
		So this profession came around, you know, network marketing, MLM.
		As you know, sometimes people have a stigma of it.
		But the reality is most people don't really actually know that it's been around for over 100 years.
		Yeah, it has.
		And what a lot of people don't actually realize is that this profession is so proven around the world that's helped millions of people out the world be able to go into entrepreneurship.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, mainstream media demonizes it.
		There's some good companies, some bad, but it's a model built around good products.
		That's why I've been offered hundreds of these deals.
		I've only done two.
		When it's a great product line, when it's already been successful, and then it just gives people a position to get other folks under them also outselling.
		And with products like, we should get right to the products because it also funds the show now, and it's a win-win.
		I mean, these are some of the best products out there.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		Well, they are.
		See, the reason that I was, when I became an independent distributor for Jeunesse, the biggest thing that I liked about the company is that the owners of the company were successful business people before Jeunesse.
		They were really successful people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So if you are not putting the pieces together.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, So Alex has become a mid-level, multi-level marketing scam guy for Jeunesse.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You betcha.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So he's not even running his own MLM anymore.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is just an independent contractor for a multi-level marketing scheme.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's what Infowars Yes is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a funnel to get people to sign up to be distributors for this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can't be real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the saddest thing I've ever heard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty remarkable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the saddest thing I've ever heard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm genuinely sad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's pretty wild stuff.
		I mean, at the bottom of InfoWars Yes page, like if you go to InfowarsYes.com and you scroll all the way to the bottom, there's a disclaimer.
		Quote, this site is owned and operated by an independent Junesse distributor.
		In other words, Alex Jones is now a Junes distributor.
		That's not all that's going on.
		He's trying to recruit people to sell Junesse products to the stores.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but that's how the multi-level marketing works.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What the shit.
		You know what?
		Twice in my life.
		Twice in my life.
		And these are two generative, formative experiences for me.
		All right.
		First, when I was like nine, my dad bought a timeshare.
		And somehow, even then, when he was explaining it to me, I was like, this is a bad idea.
		This is not valuable.
		You are dumb.
		And then again, when I was like 22, my dad started telling me about this.
		Oh, so there's this thing.
		Okay, so what you do, right, is they, it's not like they sell anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's that they give you a membership.
		And through this membership, you get discounts, you know?
		And if you tell other people about this membership and they get this membership, they have to pay a small fee.
		You know, I have to pay a small fee.
		But the more people you tell, the better discounts you get.
		And then actually, you get like a kickback for every person who signs up using your information.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't imagine how your dad ended up in a cult.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's weird how he doesn't understand when he's being conned.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When I was 18 years old, I went to a Cutco meeting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, Cutco?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I've heard of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I remember Cutco.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So at the time, I was working at a movie theater making $5.15 an hour at this movie theater, sweeping up popcorn, working the concession stand, and what have you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would later go on to manage that theater as a hero of the 4M8 theater.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Selling knives all the way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At that point, I walked out to my car and someone had put a flyer for Cutco in there.
		It was on all the cars.
		And I was like, yeah, I don't know.
		Maybe I'll go check out this seminar or whatever.
		Now, at the same time, my then-roommate was trying to make a reality show about my life because I was completely out of control and we had a handy cam.
		We had a little digital video camera.
		So we decided, wouldn't it be fun if I got really drunk and went to this Cutco meeting?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it would be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it's a cattle call.
		It's just tons of people.
		Anybody.
		We knew that was going to be the case.
		So I got fucking wasted.
		And then we went.
		He drove.
		We were safe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We brought the video camera.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we get to the door and they're like, you cannot videotape.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he had to wait in the car and I just fucking wasted.
		And now I'm like, there's not even going to be video of this.
		What am I doing?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What am I doing?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why did I stay?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it's just a sales pitch where they're like cutting pennies and stuff like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's very rah-rah.
		And there's always the guy who's like, now you might say to yourself, there's no way this is too good to be true.
		I'm going to bring up Mr. and Mrs. Derrickson.
		And they are going to tell you exactly how it changed their life.
		They went from having some sort of regular real estate job where you sell real estate to making $38,000 per month.
		Does everybody here want to make $38,000 per month?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There wasn't anyone like that, but the guy was running it.
		That was his story.
		It's me, myself.
		Like, I don't trust you.
		But then there was obviously one person in the audience who was playing and was just like, oh, my God, that's amazing.
		Stuff like that.
		And so I'm drunk.
		And I can't make eye contact with the guy or anything.
		I'm like, I probably had like 13 beers before I went.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's wasted.
		And this was a day job.
		This was a day game.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This was in the evening of the meeting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but like, what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Five, six?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It might have been closer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it might have been around seven, eight, something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not terrible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		13 years before eight is fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Remember it being dark out, and I had the day off from the theater, and I was a champ at the time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		You start drinking at noon if you're not at 13 beers by eight.
		I'm disappointed in you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I am not buzzed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I am drunk.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'm like slouching in my chair and like probably I probably burped a bit or whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'm just sitting there thinking, like, this has got to end.
		I got to get out of here.
		It went on for like an hour.
		Yeah.
		And then after the hour, what he did was the guy who was running the seminar, who was clearly just like, he was the one who put the flyers around, he's trying to recruit more people so he can make money off them.
		So what he does is he brought everyone into his office two at a time.
		And he gave the speech that he obviously gave to every single group of two.
		He's like, I wanted to bring you guys in here because you are, you know, I could tell you you have it.
		Oh, whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God, you transparent bullshitter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was in there with a girl who was like very chipper and like clearly kind of interested.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She was a go-getter a little bit.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'm drunk.
		And so he was like, he was pointing at her.
		He's like, you seem to have the go-getter spirit.
		I think you have a good future in this.
		And he looked over at me.
		He was like, you?
		You make great eye contact.
		I can't say for sure whether or not I laughed in his face.
		But I'm like, how dare?
		First of all, I'm drunk.
		Second, I have a cross eye.
		Like, what are you doing?
		That's the one thing you thought of?
		So he offered us both positions.
		And of course, it's a thing where it's like, you know, you have to pay a bunch of money to get your set of knives that you can then walk around.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy how you have to buy the knives first, and then you it's that standard setup.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I went in there and it's like you're a newsie in the 1910s.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So they tried to get me to, you know, they would constantly contact me after that and were like, we don't want to set up this thing, get your package together.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And this is before spam filter in your email.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or even like calling me.
unidentified		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Gross.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so I always ignored them and all that.
		And then I had a buddy who, it was maybe a year later.
		I'd moved and I was living with another guy, a guy I knew from high school who was kind of, he was a little impressionable and all that.
		So he got a Cutco meeting and he thought it was big stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that poor kid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The potential to make so much money was in front of him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All it takes is me working hard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's all about you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so I told him, I was like, man, I went to one of those meetings and I told him the story that I just told.
		And I'm like, they're con artists.
		This is a scam.
		He's like, no, but I know someone who did it and they made a ton of money.
		I'm like, but also consider how alienated they are from everybody who used to be their friends.
		Because I knew the guy too.
		You know that that's the path you're going to have to go down.
		You're going to piss off your family.
		You might get some pity purchases.
		And then you're going to get fucked with all of these expensive knives that you have to buy as showcase knives.
		And he wouldn't listen to me.
		He ended up sinking like $1,000, $2,000 and just getting screwed by this pyramid scheme.
		So now this is what Alex is doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whoa, I don't like you saying pyramid scheme, damn fine.
		Pyramid scheme has a really negative connotation.
		I prefer multi-level marketing scheme.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in the end of that last clip, Padilla.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		None dare call it a scam.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		None dare call it a pyramid.
		So in that last clip at the end, there, what Padilla was saying is that what made me attracted to this company was that the founders of it came in with such success in business.
		They were very successful people.
		Now, Jordan, I'd like to tell you that Jeunesse is a multi-level marketing scheme started by Wendy Lewis and Randy Ray.
		Previous to starting this health supplement scam company, the two operated another multi-level marketing business called Fuel Freedom International, where they sold a product called MPG Caps, which allegedly helped your company.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you got to have an MPG cap.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would help your company.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've got eight MPG caps.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, that's great because it helps your car use gas more efficiently.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what I've always wanted.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ultimately, this was shown to be complete bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Truth in advertising.
		Quote, in February 2009, Ray, as CEO and co-owner of this Fuel Freedom, signed an assurance of voluntary compliance with Florida's Office of Attorney General, and the company paid $100,000 and promised or prohibited, they were prohibited from making false claims in their business.
		Since they could no longer legally make false claims of Fuel Freedom, they closed down shop and started Junesse because regulation of the supplement industry is nearly non-existent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's almost like you can just start selling bullshit and call it something that's got health benefits because there are billion-dollar companies that have lobbied Congress to ensure that they're not covered by the FDA.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So these people, Wendy Lewis and Randy Ray, who started a multi-level marketing company that sold a fraudulent product which got them a $100,000 fine by the Attorney General of Florida and they had to cease operations because the jig was up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They brought that kind of success into Junesse when they started it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		I'm going to be honest, that's a brilliant move on their part.
		I'm going to give them credit for that.
		As Colin's.
		If you get caught, but here's the problem: nobody gets scammed quite like a scammer.
unidentified		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what I bring to you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what's happening right now.
		He is getting scammed so hard, and he doesn't even know it.
		And it's beautiful to watch.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's so much worse than you can even imagine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, right now, this show, InfoWars, at this point, on this episode, turns into a Jeunesse Infomercial.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The point is, is that this is a great sponsor for us.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's a great business for you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not a sponsor.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I have my own supplements.
		I have my own products.
		They're excellent as well.
		And I go out and find out whatever the best fish.
		Well, this is something that comes up to the InfoWars Life standard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Real quick, all the products in the InfoWars store are now on harsh discounts.
		And some of that is pretty normal.
		The Easter sale might still be in effect.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're really.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's an Easter sale from six years ago.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're really marked down.
		A lot of stuff is.
		And Alex earlier in this episode got on air and said that the situation with his, what is it?
		The iodine, the X2, the Survival Shield X2.
		Sure.
		The crystal iodine, the deep earth iodine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Earth iodine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He said that he has on the website, if you go, it says this is the last shipment of this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, I know we've heard him say that before.
brandon straka ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Based on the fact that he is now bringing in this Junes multi-level marketing scheme, he's saying this is going to fund the operation.
		I think that he's not working with Dr. Group anymore.
		I think that probably a lot of the old products.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You think Dr. Group is bailed?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would, if I were him, his Alexander.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, no, you would absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's diminishing like crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a toxic brand.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Dr. Group sells detoxes.
		So he doesn't want to get involved with toxic brands.
		So Alex probably was very happy to be in this arrangement with him where he would rename products and let Alex sell them and take his cut of it.
		But now that Alex's reach is so gone, he's not able to promote his products on YouTube.
		He's not able to promote his products on Facebook and Twitter and all these other places.
		What good is it for him to private label all this stuff when Alex isn't going to be able to sell?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When was the last time Dr. Group was on?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
		I think it's been a while.
		I think it's been a little while.
		But I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if Dr. Group ever comes back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let me say that this is just a theory of mine.
		I have nothing to back this up.
		But the fact that Alex is again doing the last X2 thing, and he's not doing that in some way.
		In the past, we've heard him say that to scare people.
		He's not saying it like that on this episode.
		He's saying that this is probably the last run of X2 and get it if you want it.
		That sort of thing.
		Like, hey, we got some in the warehouse.
		We've got to move it because we've got to get that Jeunesse product.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's taken up space.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he was already running a multi-layer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, InfoWars Life or Infowars Team or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that was sort of the secondary aspect to his operation.
		He would never really sell that all that hard.
		Like, he would just mention that you could get discounts if you joined.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he wouldn't sit there and be like, now it would be great if you did that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was more interested in getting people on auto ship so they would forget to cancel and make that money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Auto ship is the good stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was his scam before.
		Now it's Junesse, baby.
		Anyway.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And is a powerful ally for us to be another hydra head.
		As they attack us, we're growing another head.
		And it's Shanesh.
		You want to allow us to comrade?
		Padiga, please take over.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		When you look at all the products, Alex, I mean, basically, it's called the youth enhancement system.
		And basically, what it means is that every product here has solutions.
		It's a solution.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Drinking children's oil.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		If you look at PM right here, this product here.
		Okay.
		70% of Americans have sleep issues.
unidentified		Oh.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		70%.
		So you can't do it with people who have sleep issues.
		I will tell you, this is probably my favorite product, only because it's hard for me to unwind.
		I'm one of those people that just goes, goes, goes, goes.
		And then, of course, the AM, what it does is it's already selling knockout.
		I think that's a lot of miss clarity.
		But one of the products that you had talked about even was which is called Mind.
		In fact, a lot of the guys in here are using Mind.
		I mean, we live in a society right now where who doesn't have a cell phone who's not exposed to technology on a, I mean, literally all day long.
		I mean, you know, when was the last time you were with somebody and then they're looking at their phone all the time?
		And we live in a society where attention deficit disorder is like all over the place, right?
		So the mind product, what it really does is it really helps with focus and it helps with money.
		I mean, I don't know about you, Alex, but sometimes what happens too is like, I mean, sometimes I forget things.
		Take your money and go my phone all the time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, they've got studies.
		They give you so many false choices that aren't real choices.
		You can only make so many decisions in a day before you degrade.
		Any executive does that.
		And so just like Sean Parker of Facebook said, he goes, we give you all these fake choices that release all your dopamine that don't matter.
		We're stealing your time when you should not be making all those decisions this quick.
		So there's too many decisions we're being given.
		And something like this boosts the cognitive ability to make more decisions.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		Right.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		Well, and then if you look at reserve, okay?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What a pile of shit.
unidentified		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's ridiculous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is heartbreaking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Even really heartbreaking.
		This is depressing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you should just go away.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just let this one go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is the sort of thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look, you lost.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is the sort of thing that will kill his legacy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he's going to fuck over all of his listeners.
		Absolutely.
		If they go along with this, they are going to blame him for it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, quit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just write off the zillet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is not the action of somebody who intends to be around for very long.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Prudently invest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because this will catch up with you.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is the sort of thing where customers will sign, his listeners will sign up and they will end up losing a bunch of money or making none and losing it because they've had to pay into the system.
		And then they're going to blame Alex and they're going to be, why did you steer us this direction, you son of a bitch?
		This is a really bad thing.
		But Alex, you know, like one of the big reasons that I think he stopped working with Dr. Group or intends to in the future is that list of products, they're all duplicates of products he owns.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're the same shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all the exact same solutions that Alex already offers with the Global Healing Center products that he sells.
		So I don't see a reason that he should have duplicate products.
		They're only going to cannibalize each other.
		If you want to sell something that will help with sleep, you sell PM or knockout.
		Now, a little bit later in this infomercial, Alex talks about how PM is better than knockout.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That leads me to believe for sure he's jumping ship on his old something.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is probably a smart thing to do because you don't need the RD.
		You don't need the production capabilities.
		You can cut costs on that end of it.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whatever he was chipping into Dr. Group to develop the products and whatever he was paying him for, you know, branding and licensing and stuff like that, maybe some of that goes away.
		I don't know.
		I don't know what kind of deal he's worked out with Junesse, but it's probably a sweetheart deal.
		But also, Junes is the only kind of company that would probably get in bed with Alex now.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That speaks volumes about both companies.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So all this is bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it looks real bad, but Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's bad on a lot of levels.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But Alex wants you to know that this is not like, it's not a multi-level marketing thing.
		There's great products.
		But unfortunately, within a minute, this same clip, he then explains that it is a multi-level marketing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He contradicts himself within the course of a minute trying to sell this business.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Our listeners need to know you guys are already one of the top companies worldwide.
		You're now doing your big push in the U.S.
		And I think people need to get fundamentally involved in this.
		You guys are so successful.
		And I was reading in the different perspectives online in Wall Street.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What perspective?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That you're doing something because you're not an MLM company.
		You're a skincare product, energy company, supplement, lifestyle, highest quality.
		With medical doctors designing it, but you use MLM as the model so folks are able to get word of mouth, the most powerful thing in the universe, especially in the censorship paradigm.
		And so you guys are set to dominate in the United States.
		I'm just telling listeners, I told you America was about to be great again.
		I told you Trump was about to get an office.
		I mean, that's why they hate us, folks.
		We know what's going on, and people need to go to InfowarsYes.com to be part of this, get great products, a great business model.
		You don't have to be a business person.
		You don't have to be a distributor to get the products.
		You can buy them straight up or get discounts and get them.
		But you guys have some deals where if people show real interest in involvement, you're doing something no direct marketing company.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right off into the sunset.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So we're talking about the products, but also the big products.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You made your money go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is really the big product.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Independence, freedom, everything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's saying that the big product is the business, the business model.
unidentified		Now, I want to talk to you a little bit about Junes and why this is a big trouble.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we already talked about how the owners and the founders of Junes also got in trouble for running a fraudulent MLM company before this.
		But also, according to Truth and Advertising, quote, to date, close to 50 complaints have been filed with the Florida Attorney General's Office and the Federal Trade Commission regarding Junesse.
		The vast majority of complaints concern problems with obtaining refunds and claims that Junes is a pyramid and or Ponzi scheme.
		Junesse is or has been involved in at least 16 lawsuits since its inception, including two class action lawsuits that allege the company is operating a pyramid scheme and engaging in racketeering activities.
		This, to my assessment, is very, very clearly set up like a pyramid scheme.
		Quote, new Junesse distributors are required to purchase a mandatory starter kit for $49.95.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Flag.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next, they're encouraged in the strongest possible way to jumpstart their business by purchasing a product package, which ranges in price from about $200 to $1,800.
unidentified		Flag.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not surprisingly, many distributors are encouraged to buy the most expensive $1,800 package.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As one of their very successful operators, Kim Hui, explains, it's a no-brainer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Flag!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it temporarily catapults newbies four levels up the compensation structure to the rank of Sapphire.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The most flag!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If there's ranks, if there's ranks based on gems, then you're fucking flagged, unless it's Steven Universe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In addition to this, there's a $19.95 fee that is charged annually to keep you on the roster.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Flag.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As well as a minimum of $85 a month you have to buy in product in order to be eligible for commissions or distributor discounts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh my God, flag.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's almost $1,000 a year, not including the introductory packages that you have to pay for the privilege of annoying your friends.
		And here's the issue.
		As is pretty much always the case with businesses that are set up as multi-level marketing operations, their products are very expensive.
		So buying them yourself doesn't really make sense.
		But it starts to look more appealing when you consider the discount you'd be making if you were a distributor.
		Agreeing to sell the products to your friends and family makes the products that were once too expensive for you come within your price range.
		This is a very intentional strategy because businesses like Jeunesse are not looking for customers to buy their products.
		They're looking for people to become distributors.
		Because whether they succeed or fail as distributors, Jeunesse makes money.
		As that very successful business owner through Juness, Kim Hui, says, quote, it's not about one person selling all the time because that's linear income, you know, trading time for money.
		But this business model.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, did he even.
		She.
		She, I apologize.
unidentified		She even used the word linear.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So what she is then suggesting that somebody doing something is in a straight line.
		However, if you have somebody at the top with multiple lines going down, that is almost some sort of triangle.
		Or if you were to take it into a three-dimensional form, what would you describe it as, Dan?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I could legally.
		But so look, also trading time for money is kind of the basis of labor.
		Anyway, but this business model is about building distribution and about creating wealth.
		And then the third thing we do is teach people how to teach other people.
		And so that's when true duplication happens.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the problem with colleges.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They don't have entrepreneurship classes, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a quote from her.
		Now, another quote of hers makes things even more clear.
		Quote, you know, we as distributors, you know, we as distributors, we get product at wholesale, and then when people buy it, they buy at retail.
unidentified		So we give it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we get a little retail commission.
		Now, that will be the smallest pay you ever get, okay?
		Because when somebody else buys it at retail, I forget about retail commissions for me.
		I'm not in this to sell product.
		I'm here to build a global distribution.
		So it's very clear what the business is about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why are you interviewing somebody who's giving up the game like that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I think that was from those quotes I think are from her giving a Jeunesse pep talk lesson or something like that.
		Of course.
		So here's where it gets really dangerous.
		In 2014, 19.6% of distributors had an income of $0.
		66% earned under $1,000, an average of $213.92.
		Only 1.1% of all distributors made more than $5,000 on the whole year.
		And when you consider that $85 monthly minimum that you have to buy to keep on board, which is almost $1,000 a year, even that 66% who earned under $1,000 a year are basically breaking even or still losing money.
		And the 19.6% of people who had an income of zero from their are losing several thousand dollars.
		Most likely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what's sad?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is maybe the exact income structure of stand-up company.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In 2017, they disclosed their commission information from Canada.
		But other information since 2014 isn't publicly available, which is not a good sign.
		But from Canada in 2017, we find that 83% of distributors made under $1,000, with 36.45% making nothing.
		And again, none of those figures take into account the money that people are spending to get the product.
unidentified		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So also, distributors get paid bonuses depending on what they sell their recruits in their first purchase.
		If the new recruit buys the $200 basic package, the distributor gets $25.
		If they buy the $500 Supreme package, they get $100.
		If they buy the $1,150 Ambassador package, you get $250.
		And if you think about that for a second, you'll realize that you would always want to get your recruits to sign up for the bigger package.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Makes the most sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you probably try and sway them to do it, even possibly using manipulative, dishonest practices, because you have an agenda.
		You have a benefit from them buying the package that's the highest.
		You can make much more money.
		Now, obviously, whoever recruited you into becoming a distributor had that exact same agenda.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Strange.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And now Alex does too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Unreal.
		Unreal.
		You know, for the longest time, I used to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that his fucking listeners are going to have a better chance than these people who 2.6% off get screwed?
		Or, I mean, the other side of it is you don't become a distributor.
		And then a lot of these fucking products are over $140 for some sort of like skincare cream or something like that.
		You could get something as good for almost nothing comparatively, just go to fucking Walgreens.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Something like that.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or even go buy a boutique one for like 40 bucks.
		Save $100.
		Easy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go to town.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		This is ridiculous.
		It's very disgraceful.
		And I'm like, I hate Alex Jones.
		I've spent two years of my life talking about how he's an asshole.
		I feel bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I feel bad for him now.
		Nick, not pity.
		It's not pity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, It's disgust.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's definitely at least in the neighborhood of disgust.
		Like, I know I've always been disgusted by his racial rhetoric and stuff like that.
		But in terms of the business stuff, I was kind of charmed by it.
		Like, he seems like a rap scallion in many ways.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		With his, like, like, all the ad pivots that we laugh at all the time.
		Like, it's embarrassing.
		It's desperate, but there's kind of an art to it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The grift.
		The grift is an art.
		It's a pyramid scheme is just a bummer.
		It's like debasing oneself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's subservient.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm willing to sell out all of my friends and family so that the guy who sold me on this makes more money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then the guy that sold him on that makes more money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But at the end of the day, I am giving up everything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And let's way less than I should.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For Alex, it's not your friends and family.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's your audience.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not selling this to his wife's Tupperware party friends.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which, by the way, we are about to launch our new Knowledge Fight Tupperware line.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was going to wait till the end of the episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really great.
		What you do is you open up one side of it, you burp it, and then I don't know how Tupperware works.
		Does it work well?
		Is Tupperware good?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm very distracted because half of one of my eyes is going blurry.
		Not sure why that is.
		Not sure if I should be afraid of this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just talking about Tupperware.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'll do that to a lot of people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we're going to dismantle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We also have a line of makeup.
		You can drive around in a pink Corvette.
		Sell makeup.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to dismount on this here in a little bit.
		But before we do, we have two more clips that are just a bummer and disheartening.
		Well, actually, the last one is.
		This one isn't.
		This one is Alex revealing a little bit too much, and I think raises a bunch of very serious questions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		My neck is actually 22 inches wide.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Folks, I've been offered hundreds of millions of dollars to support cryptocurrencies.
		And I get they're real, and I get that they're just like the, you know, our government has a fiat currency.
		I've never taken any sponsorship from it because I can't figure it out, and I can't guarantee that it's not a pump and dump like you see.
		Cryptocurrency is down 80% this month.
		But this multi-level Off of cryptocurrencies and literally defeated Soros and the Globalist, but I couldn't be sure you were going to get a good product these markets rated.
		These I know are good.
		So, bare minimum, you become a distributor, you get discounts, you sign up a few family members, it pays for what you get each month.
		Then you sign up 100 members and you make a million dollars a year.
		The point is, is that I feel good at a gut level promoting Jeanesh at InfowarsYes.com.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		God damn it, that's sad.
unidentified		Now, I think, oh my God, Dan, we can never do present days.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We can never do present day again.
		No, he's a multi-level marketing scheme guy now.
		And that's crazy.
		I don't know if I've ever heard of a pyramid scheme that had like a radio.
		Like, you've never heard a radio host who's personally selling Avon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, imagine it might have happened, but yeah, I can't think of an example.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is bananas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty wild.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a guy who's literally at the lowest he could possibly be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex in 2009 was not making anywhere near as much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And even that, Alex, would have been like, for real, pyramid scheme.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's got to be a better way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You want me to jump into pyramid scheme?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm selling genes that might be the right size.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine with that.
		I'm fine with that.
		Dan, if we sold genes that could be the right size sometimes, that's better for me than if we were part of a pyramid scheme.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think I would probably veto that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know you would.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking comparatively.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is weird.
		This is actually now both of my eyes.
		I'm very concerned about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, you've been dead for six weeks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I might be going blind.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, you are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I pray that I'm not because I don't know how to read Braille.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, Mexico.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would really slow down this podcast.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would really screw up our multi-level marketing scheme.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Definitely.
		So I think that you're missing one of the big points in that clip, and that is that Alex has been offered hundreds of millions of dollars to promote cryptocurrencies, which I don't think is true.
		I think he's exaggerating.
		But also, who's offering you that money, Alex?
		Who?
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		Don't worry about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who's offering you that money, Alex?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't worry about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's even recognizing in there that they're like, oh, a lot of these are pump and dump schemes.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Alex.
		Yes.
		And you know who's running them based on who is trying to get you to promote them.
		Because Alex Jones promoting it would be the pump part of the dump.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The pump that leads to the dump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And if Alex were to promote those, he would be the one who would get dumped upon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, his listeners would.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he would be let in on when to sell.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you think he would?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that's why he's more susceptible to the pyramid scheme.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He thinks that those people would screw him over in the last minute or something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's the weirdest part of this scam, the scam being scammed on the scammer, is that because he doesn't actually understand Bitcoin cryptocurrency, he wasn't willing to jump in on the ground full of the scam.
		But this scam is supplements.
		He's like, this is my scam.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're just giving me a new way to scam my scam.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't understand that he's the one who's part of the scam now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or he's the one who's being scammed in the scam.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's scam a lot in a very short period.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a multi-level scam.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, there's people who get it different degrees.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Now we've the Jeunesse folks must be like jerking off over the fact that they look a warehouse.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we got one more clip.
		And in this clip, I agree with you.
		I don't think we can talk about the present day much anymore.
		I think this is going to be too much of a bummer.
		And Alex is just a pathetic shell of a man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Between his going back on federal troops at the border, that sort of shit, the just flagrant racism that's throughout this episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is brutal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Then the end reveal of now we're doing multi-level marketing.
		Please sign up all this stuff.
		I think this next clip really is The evolution of him as a Pokemon, if you will, into his true form now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Into a Venusaur?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is like, legitimately, this clip represents Alex Jones literally selling his audience to Junes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the way you sell this is to other Trump supporters, people that want the economy to grow, people that are on the bandwagon of Renaissance.
		You say, hey, Alex Jones is a patriot.
		His info is great.
		These are high-rated cosmetics and high-rated supplements.
		You should get this to support InfoWars and see how great they are and just buy it once.
		And then they're going to be hooked because it's so good.
		Now you're making money.
		The show's making money.
		We're defeating the globalists.
		They're getting good products.
		And then you go, oh, become a distributor under me.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		Well, think about it.
		How many of us right now, you know, like there's a new Apple phone coming out, right?
		There's a new Apple phone coming out and everything.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it'll be $1,400.
unidentified		Yeah.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		So people are going to go out and say, hey, look at my new phone.
		How much are you getting paid from Apple?
		You know, we live in a society where people are calling.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Tell folks about the new deal.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		So right now, what they have going right now is if you become a preferred customer, you can get up to 25% off the post.
		That's dumb.
		You get 25% off of the product.
		Oh, my God.
		If you want to get up to 40% off, then you pay a one-time membership fee, which is $49.95 or something like that.
		And you can get all the products for up to 40% off.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's like Costco.
		You save the money one time.
		That's right.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		But what's great about this is you pay it.
		Costco, you got to pay every year.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is one time.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		You pay this one time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Same thing with Sam's, right?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's every year.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you pay it every year.
		So most people that are out there, they want the most discount, which is 40% off of these products.
		I mean, why?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And again, Walmart does that because they want your commitment.
		They're going to give you the best deal.
		They want you to put a ring on.
		They want the commitment.
		Well, I want your commitment.
		I want to defeat Soros.
		And if you just, my God, these are great products.
		They're the best out there.
conrad padilla ▲ ● ▼		Keep going.
		Yeah.
		So if you look at the products, for example, with all of them, every single product on average that you're going to be able to use here, some of them work right away.
		Like if you look at Instantly Ages for bags underneath the eyes, who in the world wants bags under the eyes, male or female?
		I mean, this works within a couple of minutes.
		In fact, we're going to get Alex, I think, to do it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've just been too busy.
		Now, here's the thing.
		I know all this stuff works.
		I've tried it.
		I just need to do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Goodbye, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is heartbreaking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's curtains.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is really heartbreaking for me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I mean, the way he's selling his audience up the river, basically, like what you have here, like I said already in the episode, his audience is going to fare exactly as well as the average Junesse distributor does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they're going to fare way worse than that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say as well, because it's terrible average already.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to assume they're going to do worse for it to be bad for them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're going to blame Alex, and he deserves it because he just sold them to Junes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, what he's going to try and do is get them to blame the globalists for it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All he did is transmute all of his audience's attention that he has left, whatever hasn't been chipped away.
		He just took that and said, Juness, will you buy this?
		Will you buy the credibility that I have left with my audience in order to get them to try and maybe sign up for your thing through a website that is called InfoWars?
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So they'll still think it has the Alex Jones credibility that they believe to it.
		And once you do that, I don't know how you can get it back once it goes bad for so many people because it's going to.
		I don't know what you can do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've resisted saying this is the end for Alex so many times, but I can see this going down a direction where he can't recover from that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But this is what I think is fascinating about the multi-level marketing scheme being applied to Alex is that he's for the first time that I, again, I don't know a radio hoster like Tucker Carlson isn't fucking part of Avon or whatever it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, I've never seen this before wherein the blame can be shifted so easily to the fucking globalists or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't see that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't see it being possible either, but his listeners are fucking stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Generally, but I don't think once they start losing the scant amounts of money that they put into this, I don't see a way that they can't think, hey, Alex, why did you?
		And then they start researching.
		They start looking into other reviews of the company.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you're an Alex Jones listener, you're not researching a goddamn thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Generally not.
		But if some company you lose a bunch of money and you realize you got caught up in a basically exploitative business relationship, I think you might look and see if did this happen to a bunch of other people?
		And then when you see that, yes, it does.
		And Alex has every reason to know the exact same percentages that I read to you that are real, that are from disclosures from Juness themselves.
		Alex has to know that.
		And the fact that he's still trying to get his customers, his listeners, who are customers, he's still trying to get them on board with it means that he's fine with the idea that 80% of them are going to get fucked by this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But I've never seen a pyramid scheme applied to a cause.
		That's the fascinating thing about this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think there has been.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm sure, but it's never like, if you don't buy these knives, then the globalists win.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, I've never heard that sales pitch for a pyramid scheme.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That sales pitch?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, this is kind of brilliant in a certain way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not, because that sales pitch is going to work on Alex's audience, and it's not going to work the next step, which is the audience trying to sell it to other people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, of course not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The audience can't get it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's going to be a disaster for them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The audience can't get their friends and family to listen to Alex's show and believe that he's right.
		There's no way they're going to be able to use Alex's rhetoric to sell them products they don't need.
		It's going to be a disaster for them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's, who gives a shit about them?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, obviously.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Eventually it's not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Obviously, human beings do, but Alex doesn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Eventually, there's going to be blowback.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's going to eventually be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's the insulation that Alex has that other pyramid schemes don't have, is that the blowback has to go towards someone else.
		It doesn't go back to InfoWars.
		It goes back to the globalists.
		It goes back to the liberals.
		The liberals are the reason that you're not selling enough, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think because of the economic consequences that are going to come to his listeners, they are going to treat it differently than the obfuscating that Alex can do in general cases.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that he's going to be able to weasel out of this, but who knows?
unidentified		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Republicans consistently weasel out of a $2 trillion tax cut for the rich.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I understand that, and I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My predictions are generally off, so who fucking knows?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who fucking knows?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The point is, my eye is really starting to freak me out, so we've got to end this show.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, I did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I think I'm going blind.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, we have a website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We do have a website that other people can view, but Dan cannot right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can for now, but we'll see when I wake up tomorrow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is going on when I wake up tomorrow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what I'm going to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We got some trouble.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it probably won't be.
		I'll probably sleep at all.
		You're going to be fine.
		But it's fucking really weird right now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You've had a lot of caffeine and you just drank a Kickstart and all that shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I 100% believe that's what's causing it.
		But it's still fucking with my head.
		We also have a Twitter account.
		It's at knowledge underscore for.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You go to Facebook.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have a group there called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's where you should go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's really great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I jump in and out of the group every now and again, and they're like the most amazing thing to me is whenever somebody just shows up and is like, I just found this show and I'm part of the group now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or people are like, thanks, everybody's so nice here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It feels good to be a part of this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And for all of you, I just say that if you sign up for the high membership package, then you don't have to pay the normal fees that most people do to get into the group.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or you can just subscribe on iTunes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Check us out.
unidentified		Leave a picture.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can do if you like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you sign up 15 other subscribers, then you get a discount on your own podcast.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think my eye is getting better.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's starting to wear off.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan, as somebody who is, I've been blind my entire fucking life.
		I've been wearing contacts since I was six years old.
		I've been goddamn blind.
		Screw you for having a little bit of blurry vision.
		If I take my contacts out, I can't walk down the street, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't know what this was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It looked like a dragon in the corner of my eye.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that isn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't want to talk about it while it was still there.
unidentified		I didn't want to talk about it while it was still there because it's like, oh, that red dragon is coming.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But now it's gone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, it's back?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Red dragon?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Sort of.
		This is really troubling.
		I shouldn't have bought it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dude, you just have floaters.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know, but it's more severe than generalization.
		It was sort of getting worse.
		That was really freaking.
		I'm sorry.
		We need to talk more about this.
		But yeah, leave a review on iTunes.
		Check us out on Facebook, on Twitter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is there something important we should know about this pyramid scheme-loving motherfucker?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I almost feel like this is worse.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But something else that he's done that might not be as bad as selling out his audience is: Alex probably killed a dude.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Alex.
unidentified		I'm a first-time caller.
		I'm a huge fan.
		I love your work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.

▲