Today, Dan and Jordan take their Wednesday Alex Jones break to discuss an episode of Project Camelot where Kerry sits down again with the Racist Pleiadian himself, Eddie Page. This time around, the gents learn about how Eddie has read some books about Ancient Aliens, and trace some troubling connections between Camelot and InfoWars narratives.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
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Thanks for holding. | |
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to KnowledgeFam. | ||
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I'm Dan. | |
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| Workable dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Hey. | ||
| What was your first video game system? | ||
| First video game system? | ||
| Well, interestingly, my grandma liked to play video games. | ||
| My grandma on my mom's side was a little bit of a... | ||
| A tech adopter, to some extent. | ||
| So what she would do is she would get the video game systems that Nintendo put out, play all the games she wanted to play, and then when the new system came out, she would give us the old system. | ||
| So I got a Nintendo. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| That's a good grandma. | ||
| Or at least that was the story that she told. | ||
| I think she bought us a Nintendo, and that was sort of like what she pretended. | ||
| Gotcha, gotcha. | ||
| So we had a Nintendo back when I was eight or so. | ||
| One of the original? | ||
| Not even the Super? | ||
| Yeah, regular Nintendo. | ||
| Played a lot of Mega Man. | ||
| Great game. | ||
| A lot of Mario. | ||
| Super Mario Bros. | ||
| 3 is maybe the greatest game ever made. | ||
| It's a very good game. | ||
| My parents had a thing where they hated television and they hated video games. | ||
| And so me and my brother were allowed to play half an hour of video games or an hour if we played together. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So we would generally try and find ways to play together, but it was kind of difficult. | ||
| Especially with Mega Man, because it's a single-player game. | ||
| Yeah, and passing it back and forth because you fail so many times in Mega Man, that doesn't sound fun at all. | ||
| You've got to keep doing it over and over to get the motions right. | ||
| So that's why it was such a revolution when Super Nintendo came out and Donkey Kong Country was on there. | ||
| Because that was a super fun, cartoony game. | ||
| My parents wouldn't allow us to play anything violent. | ||
| So we had this super cartoony, fun platform game with two players. | ||
| And, like, a coherent function to both players. | ||
| But, of course, my brother wouldn't let me be Diddy. | ||
| He insisted on being Diddy all the time. | ||
| But, whatever. | ||
| Oh, families are rough, Dan. | ||
| Families are tough. | ||
| But it's still, like, it's one of the reasons why I have to play every Donkey Kong Country game that comes out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they fill me with such a sense of nostalgia and, like, warmth. | ||
| It's because all of those times that I spent playing with my brother back when I was, like, a super wee boy. | ||
| I'm like that with Final Fantasies. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The whole time. | ||
| I think my parents thought it was arcane and evil. | ||
| Well, it is, somewhat. | ||
| I think they thought that it was of the devil. | ||
| You have magic. | ||
| In Final Fantasy VII, you fight against an evil global corporation destroying the Earth. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| There's nothing more evil than playing a game where you act as a fucking revolutionary. | ||
| You may know more about Alex Jones than me. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| But that's not the theme of this show, so you can keep that to yourself. | ||
| I wonder if he plays Final Fantasy. | ||
| Undoubtedly. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| He probably thinks it's real. | ||
| Yeah, that's actually probably true. | ||
| Something that I think is real is my warm feelings towards our donors. | ||
| That's a good transition. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| That's a good transition. | ||
| I'd like to start this episode off by giving a shout-out to a couple of new donors. | ||
| First, someone who's just joined up with the team. | ||
| Very excited to have them on board. | ||
| Thank you so much, Stavros. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
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Also... | |
| Stavros is the guy who kills... | ||
| In Final Fantasy? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| In the fifth book of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Mostly Harmless. | ||
| In the third book, Life, the Universe, and Everything, we find out that... | ||
| Shit, now I can't remember his name. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
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What's his name? | |
| I think that might also be the name of one of the characters in season two of The Wire. | ||
| Might have been one of the Greeks. | ||
| Could have been. | ||
| Might have been the Greek himself. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| I haven't seen him in a long time. | ||
| But we appreciate it. | ||
| Also, I'd like to say thank you to someone who has joined up with the team, was a policy wonk, bumped it up, and we really appreciate it. | ||
| So thank you so much, William. | ||
| You are now a globalist. | ||
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
| Four stars. | ||
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark! | ||
| Thank you so much, William. | ||
| Thank you so much, William. | ||
| So, Jordan, we got an episode to do today, and I'm pretty excited about it. | ||
| It's Wednesday, so you know what that means. | ||
| It's time for Wacky Wednesday. | ||
| Is that what that means? | ||
| That's what we're calling it. | ||
| Did we start doing that? | ||
| Yep, absolutely. | ||
| I feel like I should have been consulted on that. | ||
| Nope, it's not whip them out Wednesday, it's wacky Wednesday. | ||
| All right, all right. | ||
| And so that means it's time to talk about Project Camelot. | ||
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Hey! | |
| I know that we have a ton of new listeners who have come aboard in the fairly recent past, and I appreciate that very much. | ||
| We're thrilled to have you. | ||
| And some people may be slightly confused by why we cover... | ||
| Project Camelot, which is ostensibly a show about the secret space program and crazy weirdos who show up that Carrie Cassidy just believes everything they say. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Some people might not quite understand the connection to Alex Jones and the sort of similarities of these worlds and why Jim Baker is also something that we talk about. | ||
| And I think today's episode is going to do an amazing job of firmly laying out why we do this. | ||
| Why are these worlds similar? | ||
| I think you'll see, as this goes along, exactly why. | ||
| So it's just recordings of our psychiatric history? | ||
| No. | ||
| Explaining why we do this? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I mean thematically. | ||
| I know. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Come on, Dan. | ||
| Not our psychosis. | ||
| I'm turning it on its head, Dan. | ||
| Oh, also, I forgot to say this. | ||
| I said this at the end of the last episode. | ||
| And I just want to repeat here at the beginning of this episode in case people, you know, turn it off once we say, you have a website. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's fair. | ||
| Yeah, no, no, go for it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Again, we're terrible at this. | ||
| We have some new goals on our Patreon page in terms of things that we will do if we get to certain levels. | ||
| So if you are someone who was thinking about donating to the show, thinking about supporting what we do, and you were like, well, I really just want to hold back until there's something concrete. | ||
| That we're working towards, now there is. | ||
| And you know who you are. | ||
| So many of you. | ||
| All of you are just right on the cusp, but then you were like, well, what's the point? | ||
| See, now you're getting too close to Jim Baker with the, like, I know someone out there is listening right now, and they want a bucket. | ||
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And I'm sorry that we are even anywhere near that. | |
| But I think that some people are interested in, like, concrete goals and stuff like that. | ||
| So they're up on the Patreon. | ||
| You can go to knowledgefight.com, click support the show, and check that out. | ||
| Anyway, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. | ||
| I'm going to interrupt my lead-in to the actual meat of the episode before that salesmanship amuse-bouche gets on your plate. | ||
| But, Jordan, in the last little bit, Carrie Cassidy has been making a sport of interviewing Eddie Page. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, what? | ||
| The racist Pleiadian, Eddie Page, seems to be getting interviewed on Carrie Cassidy's show on a weekly basis. | ||
| Really? | ||
| He was on again recently. | ||
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What? | |
| Yep. | ||
| And so I was like, hold on. | ||
| I think that he realized that her main source... | ||
| Mark Richards is in prison, and she can't talk to him as much as she'd like, so there's an opening for someone else to come in and be her sort of varsity player. | ||
| A substitute teacher. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| And so I think he's correctly sussed that out, and he's trying to step into that hole. | ||
| So all you need to do to get a recurring spot on Project Camelot is call Carrie a Pleiadian. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And then she's like, well, if he saw it, it must be true. | ||
| And show that you have no backbone and you're willing to let Carrie... | ||
| And only say moderately really racist things. | ||
| Pretty fucking racist things. | ||
| Now, the idea that Carrie Cassidy is a Pleiadian does not come back up on this episode. | ||
| It seems like that would be a thing you would be talking about a lot more, like, tell me about my people. | ||
| And honestly, I might have not... | ||
| I might not have checked this out and been like, what the fuck is Eddie Page doing back? | ||
| I thought we got to the bottom of that shit. | ||
| But it was, Eddie Page warns of impending Draco invasion. | ||
| Well, that we gotta cover. | ||
| I'm like, well... | ||
| If we don't cover this, it's not gonna get out into the mainstream news, Dan. | ||
| It would be a disservice to our listeners. | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| The Draco are coming! | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So, we're gonna do this. | ||
| Anyway, here's the first clip. | ||
| So, Eddie Page is a Pleiadian whistleblower, and this should be around my fourth or fifth interview with him. | ||
| If you go to Project Camelot's YouTube channel, you can just do a search under the name Eddie, first name Eddie, E-D-D-I-E, and you should find all the interviews. | ||
| So, after you watch this, I would... | ||
| Highly recommend that you go and find the other interviews because we covered quite a lot of ground in those other interviews. | ||
| You sure did. | ||
| All you need to do is go to the YouTube search bar and then type in Eddie Page and that's E-D-D-I-E and Page spelled like Page. | ||
| And then you're going to want to watch those videos. | ||
| Now the only way you're going to be able to watch those videos is if you move your mouse Uh, cursor and click with one click, not your right click, the one click on the left side. | ||
| Like, she's explaining this to people who are 85 years old. | ||
| Uh, perhaps. | ||
| But it's interesting that, you know, it's like E-D-D-I-E, that's his name. | ||
| Well, I mean, his birth name is Tommy Coleman Jr. | ||
| But also, let's not worry about that, because there might be a third name. | ||
| Wait, there's a third name coming up? | ||
| There might be. | ||
| Alright, alright. | ||
| Which is never the case with con men. | ||
| They absolutely always have just one country name. | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| One name. | ||
| One name. | ||
| Nobody who's trying to pull a fast one has a ton of aliases. | ||
| Well, my birth name. | ||
| It's very murky and hard to figure out exactly what their truth is behind whether or not they're lying about being in the military. | ||
| Anyway, in this next clip, we get to, like, what the fuck are you doing back, bro? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I know the Draco invasion is in the title. | ||
| But I need to know more. | ||
| I need to let you lay out what's going on. | ||
| And so Eddie opens up the discourse with this, and boy, it's disappointing. | ||
| Navaroo, or Planet X, Planet 9, as NASA now has admitted they know of, has existed for a long time. | ||
| It's epigraphic course or transverse through our galaxy has been noted by ancient cultures, and when... | ||
| I like to say Navarro. | ||
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Sure. | |
| When Navarro comes through, bad things happen. | ||
| It's been documented over the course of history. | ||
| That's a country song right there. | ||
| The ancients called it the flying dragon, the dark dragon, the red dragon, the dark star, the death star. | ||
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The biblical teachings call it wormwood. | |
| Bruce Willis called it the fifth element. | ||
| The planetoid system does come through. | ||
| It not only creates a pressure, On this galaxy, not just with Earth, but all planetary systems in this galaxy, it creates havoc. | ||
| So, Eddie is coming in to tell us that Nibiru is coming back. | ||
| Nibiru is coming through! | ||
| And I don't know if you know this. | ||
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Well, Nibiru is coming through. | |
| But Planet X, Nibiru, Wormwood, all these names refer to what Zachariah Sitchin called the 12th planet. | ||
| Which is the tenth or ninth planet, depending on how it is. | ||
| When Zacharias Sitchin wrote that book, it was the twelfth planet, because he had also... | ||
| He just added an extra couple? | ||
| Well, Tiamat existed. | ||
| Oh, well, of course! | ||
| You can't forget about Tiamat! | ||
| If you don't know what Tiamat is, that's what Zacharias Sitchin believes, that there was another planet very near Earth that got hit by Nibiru the last time... | ||
| It came around. | ||
| So it was like when you're playing cricket. | ||
| So Tiamat got hit by Nabooru when it came around, and then part of it became the moon, as I understand, and then the rest of it became the asteroid belt. | ||
| So that's where all that came from. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah, that's mostly from mistranslating and just making stuff up. | ||
| We'll get to him in a little bit. | ||
| How do you even get the angles on that? | ||
| It's like a good pool shot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
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What? | |
| It's a trick shot. | ||
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He created a moon. | |
| I don't like it. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| It's very stupid. | ||
| And then they got all the way out into the asteroid belt. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's a long ways to go. | ||
| Well, how else did that asteroid belt get created? | ||
| It probably coalesced over billions of years from space. | ||
| Tiamat. | ||
| Okay, fair enough. | ||
| So, also, this planet, the 12th planet, is said to be the home of the fabled Anunnaki. | ||
| The ancient aliens. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Okay. | |
| This is where a lot of the ancient aliens theories sort of percolate. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And we'll get... | ||
| There's so much stupid shit here. | ||
| The idea that Planet X was coming back into orbit near Earth was one of the primary preoccupations of the people who said that the world was going to end on December 21st, 2012. | ||
| As they related the elongated Bakhtun long count cycle of the Mayan calendar to the very long orbit that they imagined Nabooru would have to have to escape notice for all of these years that astronomers have been able to witness this. | ||
| Stars. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And the planets. | ||
| So you could say that most people thought that Nabooru was going to come through on December 12th, 21-2. | ||
| 21st. | ||
| 21st, 2012. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| It's hard because- I'm trying to rhyme, man. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Look, we aren't the Sugar Hill game. | ||
| No need to show off your skills. | ||
| I'm trying to get it going. | ||
| But you'd have to assume that Nibiru would have a ridiculously long ovloid orbit in order for it to stay out of people's ability to see it. | ||
| So they come up with ideas that it's like 3,600 years long, the orbit, as opposed to... | ||
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Sure. | |
| Right. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| The part that NASA does admit is possibly true is that there's a theoretical possibility that there's a large planet that is outside of our ability to observe it. | ||
| They don't know that it exists. | ||
| They don't say it does. | ||
| But there are wobbles in orbits that would be explained by a giant planetoid being. | ||
| Being. | ||
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Nabooru. | |
| By the Elder Ones. | ||
| A giant planet-like entity out there that would create that slight wobble. | ||
| But also, they say that this probably isn't... | ||
| Necessarily true. | ||
| We can't prove it's true. | ||
| And also, based on how far it would have to be out, it would have been thrown out of the orbit by now. | ||
| So if there were something that matched close to what the people who believe in Nibiru claim, that's probably impossible according to physics. | ||
| But, so these people who believe in this Planet X, they suggest that the calendar that the Mayans used was actually itself used to track the time since the last time the Anunnaki were here from Planet X. Okay. | ||
| So the Anunnaki made the Mayan calendar. | ||
| The Anunnaki actually created all of us. | ||
| They created us as a slave race in order to mine gold. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| I don't remember this. | ||
| So look, they were running out of... | ||
| They created all of us? | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| Okay, here's the thing, yeah. | ||
| So they seeded the population of the world because they needed a slave race in order to mine some sort of colloidal gold or something like that. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Because their atmosphere was being destroyed and somehow this colloidal... | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| There was a bit of a miscommunication between the princess Enlil and Enki of the Anunnaki people. | ||
| So they're taking Sumerian names as well? | ||
| The Anunnaki or Sumerian and Mayan? | ||
| Well, that's where all of it comes down from. | ||
| No, the Mayan stuff is just about the last time they were here. | ||
| Well, if you're talking Enki, then you're talking Sumer, right? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's where Zachariah Sitchin brings in all of his mistranslations of Sumerian texts. | ||
| So you've got Enlil and Enki, and they get into a little bit of a fight. | ||
| I don't remember the rest of it, but I read those books a couple years back. | ||
| They're all very stupid. | ||
| Sounds fun. | ||
| But the thing is, the idea of this planet didn't start with the 2012 hysteria. | ||
| The idea that this 10th planet, or 12th or 9th or whatever, was first put out by a woman named Nancy Leder, who believed herself to have been chosen by aliens from Zeta Reticuli, who communicate with her through a chip they put in her brain. | ||
| She was chosen as a Paul Revere type to warn mankind of the imminent coming of Planet X. Hold on. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, after they didn't destroy the Earth... | ||
| Her contention was that, haha, disinformation is important for both enemies and allies. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Okay, gotcha. | ||
| Which is... | ||
| If you're going to come up with something, it's a little bit more interesting than saying, like, I fucked up a digit somewhere. | ||
| Yeah, no, quote the art of war. | ||
| That's a great way to go. | ||
| Now, unfortunately, a week before the supposed date of the arrival of Planet X, Nancy appeared on one of LA's most popular radio stations, K-Rock, and advised listeners to euthanize their pets so they wouldn't have to suffer when Planet X arrived. | ||
| Boy, that's not good. | ||
| There's no way to prove it, but she may be responsible for more dead dogs than Alex Jones. | ||
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Ouch. | |
| Because... | ||
| K-Rock is a huge radio station. | ||
| Ouch. | ||
| And you've got to assume some people took her at her word and were like, hate to do it. | ||
| Gotta put my dog down. | ||
| You remember, there were tons of stories of whatever religion it was that kept saying that the comet or some shit was going to destroy us every 20 years. | ||
| I mean, humans kill themselves about that shit. | ||
| And then people would jump off of their houses at the exact moment that it was supposed to happen. | ||
| Hysteria is real. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| From that point on, the idea of Nancy Leder's Planet X and Zachariah Sitchin's Nibiru had become very entwined to the point where most people don't really even know the difference between them. | ||
| Nancy is all about that connection. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As it gives her some appearance of credibility because most people who don't know anything think Zachariah Sitchin's a scholar. | ||
| Sitchin, on the other hand, says that they're absolutely not talking about the same thing, probably because he does not want to be associated with someone who's responsible for so many dead dogs. | ||
| In 2017, a completely insane Christian numerologist named David Mead started propagating a theory that Nibiru was inbound and going to mess up Earth in September 2017. | ||
| He based his theory on misreading scripture, tying in tons of unrelated and false conspiracy theories, and a little bit of bad astronomy. | ||
| When that date came and went, he naturally said he had a few numbers wrong, because he's not as creative as Nancy, and that Nibiru was coming on October 5th, 2017, at which point, quote, Whoa! | ||
| magnetic pole would shift by 30 degrees, the United States would be split in half, and Barack Obama would be elected president for an unconstitutional third term. | ||
| Why are you adding in that? | ||
| We would already be dead. | ||
| Why would we then? | ||
| Who even gives a shit if we re-elect Obama? | ||
| Everybody's nuked us and the country is literally split in half. | ||
| We don't have time to vote, Dan. | ||
| Let him stay in there until we get this shit worked out. | ||
| Well, because you gotta remember that that was a pretty popular fear back then. | ||
| I know, but it's... | ||
| They're always so fucking... | ||
| They always add that dumb petty thing in there. | ||
| Like, with this motherfucker and the Pleiadians are incredible people. | ||
| Now, I mean, what they're saying is black people aren't as smart as us. | ||
| Like, no, you're in space! | ||
| Quit it! | ||
| Quit it with Nibiru is gonna make sure Barack gets a third term. | ||
| Shut up! | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Stick with the red dragon exploding or whatever the fuck you're talking about. | ||
| I'm having a difficult time because at that point, Trump would have already been elected. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't understand how he's saying that Obama would be elected for a third. | ||
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In 2017, they would have gotten the... | |
| I guess Trump would have had to be killed in the... | ||
| Or maybe Trump. | ||
| The United States splitting in half. | ||
| Anyway, look, the point is it doesn't matter. | ||
| None of this shit happened. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| So, for about 25 years now, many a talented and not-so-talented grifter has used the fear of the secret planet heading for Earth that's full of malevolent aliens. | ||
| They've used that to sell books, make videos go viral, or just submit their status as a real-life messenger on Earth from another world. | ||
| Every time. | ||
| They've been wrong and shown to be liars. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Eddie Page is coming on to bring that into the world on Project Camelot. | ||
| And I'm amazed that Carrie isn't like... | ||
| We did this six years ago. | ||
| You're just rehashing 2012 stuff. | ||
| That was a big embarrassment for my community. | ||
| It's the redemption arc, Dan. | ||
| But he's doing the same thing. | ||
| I know! | ||
| It's time for the same thing to come back. | ||
| We've waited long enough. | ||
| We need a sequel to, or we need a remake of Spider-Man. | ||
| One more time, Dan. | ||
| What's old is new again. | ||
| Every six years, new Spider-Man. | ||
| So, we now know sort of a bit of the, like, when he's talking about Nabiru. | ||
| You know, that's what he's talking about. | ||
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Right. | |
| He's literally talking about the same thing. | ||
| This is not new. | ||
| And you know that he's talking about, like, literally ancient aliens, Anunnaki, because of this next clip. | ||
| One of the things that one of my late great friends taught me, Zachariah Sitchin, and I was on two of his Earth Chronicle expeditions. | ||
| What? | ||
| We studied the ancient Sumerian waveforms. | ||
| They talked about, and they called it the Dark Star. | ||
| And when the Dark Star appeared, cannibalistic events would soon follow. | ||
| Cannibal. | ||
| And this is what we're seeing now. | ||
| So, he's friends with Zachariah Sitchin. | ||
| He went on an... | ||
| Did he say Herb Chronicle Expedition? | ||
| He got really high with him. | ||
| No, I think he said Earth Chronicle. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And I don't know what that is. | ||
| Herb Chronicle sounds more like... | ||
| They got aromatherapy degrees. | ||
| Yeah, we went to go out and we found some fresh lavender. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's lovely. | ||
| That would be... | ||
| That, I would be like, yeah, I bet you did. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| All right. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Cool. | |
| Whatever. | ||
| You guys are friends. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I don't believe him, first of all, that he was friends with Zachariah Sitchin. | ||
| Yeah, I immediately was like, no, you weren't. | ||
| It's wonderful to claim now, because he's dead. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can just do whatever you want with dead people. | ||
| You can just say, like, oh, we were best friends. | ||
| We found Lavender together. | ||
| Well, he never talked about you at all. | ||
| Maybe he would have. | ||
| It seems like Zachariah Sitchin was crazy enough and had no compunction about lying, so, or just believing bullshit, you'd think if he was friends with an alien. | ||
| That might have been like... | ||
| You know what? | ||
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Oh, also, why wasn't any page ever featured on Ancient Aliens? | |
| Don't worry about it. | ||
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He's a fucking alien! | |
| They can't allow him on Ancient Aliens? | ||
| That would blow everybody's theory up. | ||
| They would have to come down with a concrete theory because, hell, we got one of them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| See what I'm saying? | ||
| I guess. | ||
| They gotta leave their options open. | ||
| You can't do one episode. | ||
| You gotta get a whole season. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's a season finale, though, right there. | ||
| Ancient aliens and then, like, surprise. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| We got one. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And then the whole episode. | ||
| It's a racist. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Damn it! | ||
| Good news, bad news. | ||
| I felt really, like, I felt so... | ||
| I'm worried that, like, I haven't watched all the episodes of Ancient Aliens. | ||
| Maybe he was on it. | ||
| So I had to Google it. | ||
| I'm seeing nothing come up of him being on Ancient Aliens. | ||
| He might have, I'm sure he wasn't. | ||
| Because he wasn't talking this bullshit back when they were making Ancient Aliens. | ||
| So, here's the thing. | ||
| I want to talk a little bit about Zach Rice. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't want to get too deep into why it's a big problem whenever anyone is relying on Sitchin to make their argument because the reasons are too plentiful. | ||
| I know that Alex Jones says that sort of thing like, I want to prove this to you, but I can't because I have so much proof. | ||
| But in this case, that is kind of true. | ||
| So we're just going to do a greatest hits. | ||
| I'm not even going to do that, but I'm going to tell everyone where they can go. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So suffice it to say, the biggest reason that you should be very skeptical is because Zachariah Sitchin claims to be a linguistic scholar, but a close analysis of his work shows that he has absolutely no idea how to translate Sumerian or Aramaic that he claims to translate, upon which his whole argument is based. | ||
| His translation is what he's basing all of this on, and experts who have studied these languages say, like, no. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| So he doesn't even know anything about translating? | ||
| It doesn't appear so. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| There are further indications that he also doesn't know anything about Hebrew. | ||
| And in fact, in passages from his works like Stairway to Heaven, he appears to not know the difference between Hebrew and Aramaic, which is a big problem. | ||
| That seems important. | ||
| Just because the letters look similar in a lot of cases does not mean that they're the same language. | ||
| So he's running the old con of like somebody goes into a small village and you just can't understand a word. | ||
| And then surprise, some doctor comes along and he's the only... | ||
| He's the only one who can communicate with this person. | ||
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He might as well be. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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He often also just makes stuff up when he needs a translation to match his predetermined meaning, as is the case with his translation of Nephilim to possibly mean, quote, people of the fiery rockets. | |
| There's literally nothing in any language that he's coming from that is close to men or people of the fiery rockets. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
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So, look, the bottom line is that Sitchin's scholarship is complete shit. | |
| If you want to learn more about this, go to www.sitchin.com. | ||
| Questioniswrong.com I imagine it's pretty comprehensive. | ||
| This is a site run by Dr. Michael S. Heiser, who has a PhD in Hebrew and Semitic Studies and was the Society of Biblical Literature Regional Scholar of the Year for the Pacific Northwest in 2007. | ||
| Well, that's fun. | ||
| His website explains in very academic, minute detail exactly what Sitchin mistranslates and why it matters. | ||
| I would love to get into it. | ||
| The reason that I'm just saying go to that website if you want to learn more about all of it is because I can't sit here. | ||
| And like... | ||
| I don't know Hebrew, so I can't credibly explain to you why it matters that there's a yod in the middle of the word and Sitchin just ignores it. | ||
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Right. | |
| But it does matter. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| It matters because he's taking words and assuming that they come from one root, when in reality, because of the morphology of the word, it's clear it means something else. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| So there's just, like, I understand when I read it, but boy, I can't explain it to you. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| You should visit my website, www.issitchinwrong.com. | ||
| And when you go to that page, there's just a big banner that says yes, and it's a link to Sitchin. | ||
| Also, this guy, Michael Heiser, Dr. Michael Heiser, has repeatedly offered to debate. | ||
| Sitchin. | ||
| And he has never accepted it. | ||
| That's surprising. | ||
| What about now? | ||
| As I understand from what he has on his website, Coast to Coast AM multiple times asked if he would like to debate Sitchin. | ||
| He said, yep. | ||
| And then Sitchin would not do it. | ||
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Huh. | |
| Which kind of leads you to think that maybe Sitchin knew he was full of shit. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| And he made a lot of money off of those books and the circuit that he lived in. | ||
| That's such a crazy... | ||
| You can just make shit up. | ||
| You can just make shit up that people know about. | ||
| But because nobody knows about Sumerian but like five people. | ||
| Especially back when he was writing those books. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There was even less awareness of the language. | ||
| And it's one of those that's really easy to pull a con on because it's so foreign to most of what is taught in history classes and stuff like that that it's really easy to trick people with the sort of the veneer of exoticism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If that makes sense. | ||
| Because if I know the Sumerian stuff, I know a little bit enough to be an asshole about it. | ||
| Or an idiot about it. | ||
| I mean, it's just like it's an unrelated language. | ||
| It doesn't have an antecedent or is really connected to the forms of language that we use. | ||
| It's just kind of weird. | ||
| I can't speak to that. | ||
| This is where we fall out of credibility in terms of being able to say. | ||
| But Sitchin sucks. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I have a theory that I'm working on. | ||
| I think it has a pretty solid grounding in reality. | ||
| I think that Eddie Page just read Zachariah Sitchin's books. | ||
| And is kind of repeating them. | ||
| I think that might be a whole lot of his sort of worldview. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe a lot of it is based on, in this next clip you can just hear, he's just reciting stuff from Sitchin. | ||
| When we understand who the Fallen Ones, the Watcher Angels, that's mentioned in the Book of Enoch, they were tall, they were warriors, and they were giants. | ||
| So now... | ||
| With that said, we go back to the biblical references of the Niplim, who were mentioned openly as giants. | ||
| In the ancient teachings, the Anunnaki and the warriors, they were, were here to protect and guard over the first creation, the Adam, man. | ||
| Now, with that said, the Anunnaki is mentioned in the Book of Enoch as the Watchers. | ||
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You know, again, people have to do their own research. | |
| I know there's a lot of stuff out there on the internet. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| And, you know, again, you have a garden here. | ||
| Separate the flowers from the weeds. | ||
| That's our job. | ||
| One of the reasons I kept that clip in specifically is because that's one of the mistranslations that's very specific to Sitchin. | ||
| That idea of the Watchers, the Nephilim being the fallen ones and stuff like that. | ||
| From this guy's website, Michael Heiser's, one of the explanations that he provides is about the idea of Nephilim being fallen. | ||
| And that's ascribing the root word being the verb nafal. | ||
| Or to fall. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| And he proves a very, very easy-to-follow explanation. | ||
| As easy of an explanation as you can have with Hebrew, if you don't speak it. | ||
| A very thorough explanation of why that can't be the root word. | ||
| That Sitchin is using. | ||
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Gotcha. | |
| So this is a very specific mistranslation that leads me to believe that he has just read Zachariah Sitchin's work and has just internalized it. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because it doesn't even, you know, like, it's more like they were the Three Stooges, you know? | ||
| They weren't the fallen ones. | ||
| They were the ones who fall regularly, and it's hilarious. | ||
| That, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Three Stooges. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Harbingers of the Apocalypse. | ||
| They were giants. | ||
| Metaphorical, but they were giants. | ||
| Giants of industry. | ||
| The movie industry. | ||
| TV. | ||
| Vaudeville? | ||
| So, I don't believe a lot that Eddie's said already. | ||
| Mostly because he's kind of invalidating himself by pulling out this Nephilim, Nabooru shit. | ||
| But, you should know, this guy's got some fucking academic background. | ||
| You don't know that about him, do you? | ||
| Eddie Page? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| What? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| With a voice like that? | ||
| This guy's a fucking scholar. | ||
| He is not. | ||
| Let's put it this way. | ||
| Let's put it this way as not a scholar. | ||
| I also have a master's degree in geophysics. | ||
| I'm very proud of my education. | ||
| I was given probably the best education, along with my brothers and sisters, that money could buy. | ||
| Pleiadians. | ||
| Thankfully, the government paid for that education. | ||
| I don't claim to be an expert in any one field, but I do know what to look for and what's going on. | ||
| I have a master's degree in geophysics. | ||
| I don't claim to know anything about geophysics, though. | ||
| Y 'all make your own conclusions. | ||
| So now this is where it becomes difficult. | ||
| The fact is that his birth name is Tommy Coleman Jr. | ||
| He's going by Eddie Page when he's talking about all his alien stuff. | ||
| And then we find this out. | ||
| But my private Facebook is not under Eddie Page. | ||
| It goes under my... | ||
| Well, my lineage name, Michael Wolfe. | ||
| So now we have a third fucking name. | ||
| Wait, his name is Michael Wolfe? | ||
| Michael Wolfe. | ||
| Is he the Michael Wolfe? | ||
| Did he write that book? | ||
| No, no, it's spelled W-O-L-F-E. | ||
| Not with two Fs. | ||
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All right. | |
| He didn't write Fire and Fury. | ||
| That would be awesome! | ||
| That would be great if it just turns out that guy is on Project Camelot all the time. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| So now we have Tommy Coleman Jr., Eddie Page, and Michael Wolff, all possibly being some form of his actual name. | ||
| Do any of them have a master's in geophysics? | ||
| I don't fucking know! | ||
| I can't hunt down all these. | ||
| He doesn't say what college he went to. | ||
| His timeline doesn't fucking work out either. | ||
| None of this makes sense. | ||
| But who cares? | ||
| It's probably not true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But now because of the murkiness of the names and stuff like that, he makes it almost guaranteed that you're going to spend a week of your fucking life trying to get to the bottom of this. | ||
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Right. | |
| And maybe you won't. | ||
| Now here's why I'm going to go with you can skip all that. | ||
| Because he just said the government paid for his education. | ||
| Along with his brothers and sisters, which kind of implies to me that what he thinks is when they found out he was a Pleiadian and they were just hovering over him protecting him all the time, they then paid for his education. | ||
| I don't believe that you're getting a Pleiadian scholarship, Dan. | ||
| No, true. | ||
| But the way he would say it is that he was in Vietnam. | ||
| Remember his backstory is that he was in Vietnam and then he lost... | ||
| Days or whatever, but it didn't pass in real time when he was shot down or whatever, and then the aliens put him back together, and then he came back and he was in the CIA or whatever. | ||
| Or maybe. | ||
| So that would have been the time when he was getting his master's degrees, like when he's back. | ||
| Although he said he was overseas or whatever for 10 years, I think, or something like that. | ||
| The timeline doesn't work out at all, and it's going to get even worse as we go through this episode. | ||
| Quite frankly, none of this makes sense. | ||
| It's almost... | ||
| It was literally impossible for any of this to be true. | ||
| But, yeah, I don't know. | ||
| What were you saying? | ||
| I'm just saying that the government isn't paying for Pleiadians to go to college. | ||
| I would believe it if it were a part of the GI Bill or something like that. | ||
| I don't think the GI Bill covers... | ||
| Double Masters? | ||
| Double Masters. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| I think it's like a four-year bachelor's degree. | ||
| I didn't look into that. | ||
| I can't say. | ||
| But his argument would be that once he came back and he was proven to be an alien, that the government then paid for him and his buddies to go to college. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta. | ||
| So that would be that. | ||
| Just to see if they could do it. | ||
| You've got to do experiments on the Pleiadians. | ||
| So, let's do our first experiment. | ||
| Can you guys get a master's degree? | ||
| Can you get two? | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| I want to get more into this timeline, but we have a couple more clips we have to get through before we do. | ||
| This timeline is going to be blown wide open, much like Tiamat was when he got hit by Nabooru. | ||
| But first, here's some good news. | ||
| Tiamat got hit by Nabooru. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| America? | ||
| The Earth? | ||
| Not going to get hit. | ||
| My understanding, it will not hit Earth. | ||
| There is where the rubber meets the road. | ||
| I know that there's some YouTubers out there and your conspiracy theorists are going to say it's going to crash into Earth. | ||
| Headline! | ||
| Nabooru won't hit Earth! | ||
| Earth has a magnetic shield around it. | ||
| That shield is shifting. | ||
| We're calling it a pole shift. | ||
| We know this is taking place right now. | ||
| But it will pass within. | ||
| Two to five million miles from this planet. | ||
| And as it gets closer, it's going to be pushing trash. | ||
| And when I say trash, like asteroids and stuff. | ||
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Minorities. | |
| And when it passes, it'll be dragging trash, asteroids. | ||
| We're in for some really dark days. | ||
| I'm just trying to read through his subtext. | ||
| I'm not espousing that. | ||
| I just think he might. | ||
| I'm going to lay something out towards the end of this episode that I think that a lot of his worldview, especially when he starts talking about the Dracos, is a dangerous expression of his racism. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| We'll get to that as it comes along. | ||
| I can't say the N-word, but I can say Draco all day. | ||
| Gonna get that done. | ||
| I think it's closer to Jew, but be there as it may. | ||
| If a massive planet, Nabooru, came within... | ||
| Two million miles of Earth. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Wouldn't it fuck us up just by being there? | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| Like, I'm pretty sure that that is really fucking close as far as giant-ass planets that are so huge that they, you know, all of that stuff. | ||
| How far away is the moon? | ||
| You know what else? | ||
| It would also fuck us up way before it was that close. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, you would see all sorts of effects happening. | ||
| Way in advance. | ||
| Our oceans would be just floating above us. | ||
| That was what was so comical about the people who were like, if you look pretty much right at the sun, you can see a dot right off to the side of it. | ||
| That's Nabooru. | ||
| Jordan, shut the fuck up. | ||
| You're laughing. | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
| You're going to get us killed. | ||
| With your foolishness, you're going to get killed. | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
| If you look at the sun, you can see a little dot, and that's Nabooru. | ||
| That's what people were saying in 2012. | ||
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Yes, absolutely. | |
| What are you talking about? | ||
| See, look, it's coming from that direction, and that's why telescopes can't see it. | ||
| It's because it's coming from behind the sun. | ||
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What? | |
| Right. | ||
| There's no behind! | ||
| Yes, there is. | ||
| No, we're going in and we're spinning! | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| You can't hide behind the sun like it's always in a perfect straight line in the exact same orbit pattern of the sun that is also opposite to ours. | ||
| Do you have two master degrees? | ||
| Do you have two master degrees? | ||
| I don't! | ||
| I just don't understand how that's even... | ||
| And you could... | ||
| Because our axis is even tilted and shit. | ||
| No way! | ||
| No. | ||
| It can't just hide behind the sun. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| There's no behind! | ||
| I know. | ||
| But that was one of the arguments of why, like, why can't you see it? | ||
| That's what a lot of people... | ||
| I mean, you know how bad the arguments that, like, people who believe in flat Earth are. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That was another... | ||
| It's that sort of level of thinking, but put into the... | ||
| Like, why can't we see Nabooru? | ||
| Now, the only reason I bring that up is because, okay, let's imagine that is the case. | ||
| As soon as you can see that fucking planet, it's going to be affecting us in a very serious way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If it's bigger than Jupiter. | ||
| Oh yeah, no, that's not good. | ||
| If it's bigger than Jupiter, that's a problem. | ||
| It may be bigger than Jupiter. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| All these people have such varying ideas of how big it is and what have you. | ||
| So if it's bigger than Jupiter... | ||
| It's way bigger than Earth. | ||
| That's for fucking sure. | ||
| Then isn't it still a gas giant, though? | ||
| Like, I don't think carbon-based planets can... | ||
| You're showing your fucking foolishness. | ||
| Can they even get that big? | ||
| You're showing your lack... | ||
| I really don't think that you can sustain... | ||
| You're out of your depth. | ||
| Eddie Page has a master's degree in geophysics. | ||
| I don't even think there are. | ||
| You understand? | ||
| How would it even have coalesced in the first place? | ||
| What was it, born in a galaxy? | ||
| No, that doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Of course it doesn't. | ||
| I pass. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I really don't think that this Nabooru thing makes sense at all, Dan. | ||
| Well, did you know that it also has superpowers? | ||
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What? | |
| I don't know if you know my witness, Bob Dean, but he basically said it was supposed to be seen in 2017. | ||
| In a sense, you could say there have been some sightings of it. | ||
| And I'm also wondering if it has the ability to go what I call interdimensional, like any craft, that probably moves at quite a rapid speed because I believe it can appear and reappear depending on where you... | ||
| Where it is. | ||
| So I'm wondering about that. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
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Well, God bless Bob Dean. | |
| I've sat and talked with Bob Dean a couple times. | ||
| Not an answer. | ||
| I don't think he's ever talked to Bob Dean. | ||
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Awesome man. | |
| Very credible. | ||
| What? | ||
| And Bob, if you're watching this, my hat's off to you, brother. | ||
| I'm praying for you. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Bob has known me for a long time. | ||
| I just wish I could talk with him more. | ||
| I miss my old friend Wendell Stevens. | ||
| What is happening right now? | ||
| Hyperdimensional type craft. | ||
| It is also a Death Star. | ||
| It is under intelligent control. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So now... | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| So now we're dealing with a planet that can create its own Einstein-Rosen bridge and pop in and out of reality whatever it likes. | ||
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And... | |
| And... | ||
| It's a spaceship. | ||
| It's itself... | ||
| An intelligent thing. | ||
| It is now no longer something that's on an orbit. | ||
| It's capable of traversing the entire universe at will. | ||
| It could have been here all along. | ||
| It was here all along. | ||
| It was hiding right behind the sun, Dan! | ||
| Simultaneously here and not here always. | ||
| Look, this is dumb. | ||
| This is ridiculously dumb. | ||
| I mean, what do you even do with that? | ||
| It's a fucking big death star out there. | ||
| I think you gotta do some real hard-hitting research. | ||
| I don't need to. | ||
| We need to... | ||
| First, we gotta interview the Sitchin is wrong guy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's gotta happen. | ||
| Otherwise, how will we ever know? | ||
| Just go read his site. | ||
| Go read that guy's site. | ||
| You can find plenty of examples of why this is all based on mistranslations and people trying to sell doomsday bunkers. | ||
| Odd. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, yeah, I don't caught into the idea that it is a hyper-dimensional, planetary-sized spaceship, because that's ludicrous. | ||
| I think that's all we need to say about that. | ||
| Kind of ludicrous. | ||
| Because I want to get to this. | ||
| This is where the timeline goes apeshit. | ||
| This is where things... | ||
| I can't even begin... | ||
| Okay, so here's what I want to say. | ||
| Timeline's about to get blown to shit. | ||
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But... | |
| I have a working theory. | ||
| First, he's just read Zachariah Sitchin's stuff and he's co-opting it and pretending he lived it. | ||
| Second, I think that Eddie Page is Carrie Cassidy's Larry Nichols. | ||
| Listen to the voice. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Listen to the way... | ||
| I got you there. | ||
| He associates himself with all sorts of things that he almost certainly wasn't associated with. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| All this stuff. | ||
| You're going to see even more similarities. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| That is dead on. | ||
| He's Swearie Carries Larry. | ||
| Call the Pleiadian Eddie Page. | ||
| Make sure it's the Pleiadian one, okay? | ||
| Are you ready for the timeline? | ||
| I'm ready. | ||
| To be busted. | ||
| And I don't know, I mean, I know you've been tested when you worked for the military, etc., as a psychic, and I know you were quite accomplished in that area, but is there anything else in the public domain that you can talk about where you kind of proved that what you said was true and that it came out later? | ||
| In other words, have you done any other predictions that people might recognize? | ||
| I don't have all the documents here in front of me. | ||
| You don't have to. | ||
| You can just talk about it. | ||
| We'll assume that you can send documents to me later and I can post them if necessary. | ||
| You do have many of the documents and I will talk about it. | ||
| One of my late great friends was the United States President, Ronald Reagan. | ||
| The second time in 1986 at Camp David. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Wait! | ||
| Hold on! | ||
| Whoa, whoa, whoa! | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa! | |
| Eddie Page was great friends with Reagan. | ||
| And he was at Camp David in 86. Yep. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Hanging out with him. | ||
| If I recall the timeline... | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Don't get into that yet. | ||
| Don't worry about that for now. | ||
| Why didn't you bring this up before? | ||
| Well, he was the one who pegged him. | ||
| I would assume that... | ||
| I would like to ask him about that. | ||
| But also, I mean, like, it's your first time on the fucking show, I would assume you'd be like, I'm good friends with Reagan! | ||
| Wouldn't that give you a lot of credibility? | ||
| Also, wouldn't that be something that would have been brought up in things you talked about before this? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's such nonsense. | ||
| You forget, you know, he's just lonely. | ||
| He's talking about a lot of great friends that he wants to call more. | ||
| Oh, buddy, Zachariah Sitchin and Ronald Reagan. | ||
| My late great friend. | ||
| Ronald Reagan. | ||
| I just imagine them jamming out on the guitar up in heaven. | ||
| They're like, Eddie, we could use you on bass. | ||
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I'll be up there later, boys. | |
| It's tough. | ||
| I actually was friends with all of the dead presidents. | ||
| I was not friend with any of the living presidents. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But all the dead ones. | ||
| The dead ones, though. | ||
| Is George H.W. dead? | ||
| Now hear me out on this. | ||
| Because I was friends with him. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| And in this next clip. | ||
| He sort of calls out H.W. Bush. | ||
| President Reagan was more concerned about this draconian threat. | ||
| He'd already tried to mention it to the world and almost lost his life over it. | ||
| So that assassination attempt was actually about Draco. | ||
| How can we kill the American people? | ||
| Wait a minute, Mr. President. | ||
| This is not an American event. | ||
| This is a global world event. | ||
| The United Nations is probably the best place because you're not going to get no leeway from any of the players involved with this, especially the Vatican, since they are housing many of these beings that we're talking about. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| So, with that said... | ||
| Fucking Vatican, man. | ||
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How and what should we be looking for? | |
| Well, my brother Michael explained some of the stuff. | ||
| My brother Daniel explained some of the stuff. | ||
| Is he talking about the Bible, guys? | ||
| It's funny that I was seated right across from President Reagan and George Bush stared a hole through me for almost eight hours. | ||
| Eight hours? | ||
| Mr. Bush, I'm going to talk like a canary. | ||
| This canary's not going to sing. | ||
| I'm going to talk. | ||
| So when I carried on my conversation, I looked at George Bush. | ||
| He's mixing metaphors. | ||
| Since he knew this stuff better than anybody. | ||
| And he's supposed to be an American. | ||
| Okay, he is American, but why aren't you talking about this with the president? | ||
| Yet, Ronald Reagan would look me square in the eye and he says, what is coming? | ||
| And this is when I mentioned many of the things that we will see the telltale signs. | ||
| We will see the rising temperature. | ||
| We'll see strange weather patterns. | ||
| The big dragon, as we call it, Mr. President, is sitting in our living room. | ||
| It's called Yellowstone. | ||
| And we will see multiple, multiple destructive earthquakes before this planet arrives. | ||
| Because the understanding, as the closer it gets, the Earth's center will heat up. | ||
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And as it heats up, the Earth will expand. | |
| The poles will shift. | ||
| We're seeing a pole shift right now. | ||
| This is my favorite and perhaps most creative way to be a climate change denier. | ||
| It's pretty impressive. | ||
| No, it's... | ||
| Look! | ||
| It's Yellowstone! | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Duh! | ||
| No, no. | ||
| The dark planet is making... | ||
| It's Nabooru coming close and making the Earth heat up from inside. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So, George W... | ||
| Or H.W. Bush. | ||
| Did not enjoy the presence of an Eddie Page or Tommy Coleman Jr. or Michael Wolfe at Camp David when he was trying to help Ronald Reagan figure out what he was going to do about this alien menace. | ||
| About these Dracos! | ||
| Now, hold on. | ||
| I have a lot more respect for H.W. now that I know that he can stare for eight hours straight. | ||
| Yeah, you'd win any kind of no-blanker contest. | ||
| Yeah, that is... | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So now, I mean, that was a two minute... | ||
| I wonder how long he can hold his breath. | ||
| That was a two minute long clip where he explained his interactions with Reagan and Bush. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's already said that he's good friends with Reagan. | ||
| I just want to play this one more time. | ||
| Another clip where he reconfirms that he talked about aliens with Reagan. | ||
| You're talking about how you were dealing with Reagan. | ||
| So you're saying that you were talking about this back in the days when Reagan was around. | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Now, here's where that is problematic for his timeline. | ||
| That sounds almost like... | ||
| That sounds like a Robert Evans story. | ||
| Like, it should be in the kids' days of the picture. | ||
| So there I was, talking about... | ||
| Talking about aliens with Ronald Reagan and George H.W. in a hot tub. | ||
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And this is after he showed us the video of him getting pegged. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Bob Chapman was there. | ||
| So, Eddie claims that he advised President Reagan and Vice President Bush in 1986 of the imminent alien menace from the Draco aliens and Planet Nabooru. | ||
| It's a slight problem because he didn't know anything about aliens until he was put under hypnotic regression by his alleged CIA therapist, Giles Hamilton, on February 10th, 1991. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| He didn't know anything about being a Pleiadian. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It doesn't work. | ||
| It just doesn't work. | ||
| It doesn't work. | ||
| It absolutely doesn't work. | ||
| There's no way for this all to... | ||
| I mean, you know, with the fractured logic of people who are spinning yarns, obviously it would be something along those lines. | ||
| He'd retcon some tiny part of the story to make it work out. | ||
| Time travel, Pleiadian. | ||
| I remote-viewed into the past of my own brain. | ||
| All of the stuff that his narrative comes from happened because of these regressions that were videotaped. | ||
| So these exist. | ||
| Like, the tapes exist of him coming to his awareness of aliens and all this shit. | ||
| And it's from 1991. | ||
| So had he repressed his memories of talking to Reagan about... | ||
| None of this shit should shock him! | ||
| Like, if he's advising Reagan about the Draco menace in 1986 when he's regressed in 1991 and he finds out all this stuff he knows about aliens, that should be like, oh yeah, I knew that shit. | ||
| Like, it shouldn't be, and it's shocking to him. | ||
| He talks about how shocked he was to learn all this stuff. | ||
| It's nonsense! | ||
| Wouldn't you be shocked if you just found out that a few years ago you had hung out with the president at Camp David? | ||
| Five years ago. | ||
| That would be shocking! | ||
| It'd be shocking if you found out that five years ago you knew all the stuff you're pretending to not know in 1991! | ||
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Ugh. | |
| I don't like this guy much. | ||
| He's just bad at it. | ||
| Yeah, kind of. | ||
| But he has that, oh, shucks-y kind of voice. | ||
| And Carrie is just... | ||
| Carrie is charmed by this somehow. | ||
| I don't understand it at all. | ||
| Well, it's because he's provided fake documents to her. | ||
| I'm certain that those documents that he's given her are on par with the documents he flashes up on camera. | ||
| Well, they were in a.txt file. | ||
| He shows a fucking... | ||
| Later in this episode, she takes a question from the chat room that is accusing him of being a Templar. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So he pulls out from, I don't know, some fucking drawer next to him, a certificate of membership in the Templars. | ||
|
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha! | |
| It's like... | ||
| He's just got one of those for everything? | ||
| It's literally like if he was... | ||
| Someone accused him of being on a Wheaties box. | ||
| He'd pull out a Wheaties box. | ||
| Check this shit out. | ||
| What else you want? | ||
| What else you want, huh? | ||
| This is a picture of today's newspaper in 1986 with me standing next to Ronald Reagan. | ||
| There isn't any of that. | ||
| Oh, there isn't? | ||
| No, but the Templar certificate looks like just something you printed off on a printer. | ||
| Like a bad printer. | ||
| Was it even laminated? | ||
| No! | ||
| It wasn't even framed? | ||
| No, and then he always... | ||
| I would frame that. | ||
| He shows, like, he'll just flash up on screen the stuff that's like, well, it's fake. | ||
| Or, like, even on the other episode, she was talking to him about all the medals he'd received from the army, and he pulls out on screen, like, all of these... | ||
| A bunch of bottle caps? | ||
| No, he pulls out a bunch of medals, and then he's like, well, these aren't the real medals. | ||
|
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What? | |
| These are just fake medals that represent the real medals. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Guy. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Guy. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Eddie. | ||
| Do better. | ||
| The only thing that I would accept is if somebody called him a cowboy and he pulled that cowboy hat and he was like, you're goddamn right I am. | ||
| Here's my lasso. | ||
|
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Yeah! | |
| So, you would not be surprised at this point to learn that not only is Eddie into a lot of horse shit, he's also into Nostradamus. | ||
|
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What? | |
| Why? | ||
| All those that are drawing taught me how to read and speak Sumerian. | ||
| Oh yeah, real quick. | ||
|
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Wait, wait, wait. | |
| So now he can read and speak Sumerian? | ||
| Because he was taught by Zachariah Sitchin, which I would say, even if that's true, that means you don't know how to read those things. | ||
| We also studied other prophecies. | ||
| This was my job title. | ||
| I was a theological, historical archaeologist. | ||
| With a master of geophysics. | ||
| And I wanted to be the best that ever was. | ||
| Well, I did my job good and thoroughly. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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But... | |
| Within an understanding of theology, history, I also got involved with understandings of Michael D. Notre Dame. | ||
| I know everybody's got to know who he is. | ||
| Yep, we do. | ||
| I'm so boring, Jordan wants to claw out his eyes. | ||
| I forgot that Nostradamus' name was Mikel D. Nostradamus. | ||
| I thought it was just a guy named Michael D. Nostradamus. | ||
| I was like, oh, I'm excited to learn about it. | ||
| Ah, shit, that's just Nostradamus. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
|
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Ah, well. | |
| You know what I was surprised to find out? | ||
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What's that? | |
| His other name was Chuck D. Nostradamus. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| Can't do it. | ||
| Can't come up with a pun. | ||
|
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Can't do it? | |
| Nope. | ||
| I was trying to come up with something is a joke or fear of... | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Look, not every riff is going to go somewhere. | ||
| It takes a nation of millions of Dracos to hold us back. | ||
| There you go. | ||
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There we are. | |
| Found it. | ||
| So, I told you at the beginning of this episode, and I don't think I've done a perfect job of spelling this out just yet, but I made the claim that I believe that on this episode we see much more of a concrete link between the worlds of Project Camelot and Alex Jones that really should make clear why this is still a relevant piece of our sphere, even though it's ludicrous and full of wacky dudes lying about space. | ||
| The draconians are not nice people. | ||
| They said, in their cuniforms, they will return. | ||
| And, well, I do believe that will be the return. | ||
| Now, I have something else that I will throw to all the viewers out there, including you, Kerry. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because I can't find nothing of credence on this. | ||
| But something is supposed to happen on September 20th, 2020. | ||
| What it is? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I found nothing on it, but this date was given to me by, well, I don't know if I should mention his name. | ||
| Should I, Carrie? | ||
| I'm happy to have you mention his name. | ||
| Very good. | ||
| Nice little smile there, Carrie. | ||
| How about Mr. Brock Long? | ||
| Mr. Brock Long. | ||
| Is that Brock Lesnar's music I hear in the background? | ||
| Okay, Mr. Brock, if you're watching this or you got some of your flunkies watching, tell us what is going to happen on September 20th, 2020. | ||
| We're all anticipating your reply. | ||
| I've put him on the spot, Gary. | ||
| Let's just see how far he'll come. | ||
| I wouldn't hold your breath. | ||
| I won't either. | ||
| I don't believe that the head of FEMA, Brock Long, has told you anything that's going to happen three years from now. | ||
| I think that's a crock of horse shit. | ||
| I think you're just making stuff up. | ||
| Look, I know. | ||
| Look, you've got to handle Hurricane Maria. | ||
| You've got to flub that up pretty hard. | ||
| But, hey, want to tell me something about the future? | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| So something is going to happen. | ||
| Sometime in the future, Dan. | ||
| Right, because the FEMA director has told him that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, that's stupid. | ||
| Is he even going to be the FEMA director in 2020? | ||
| Well, see, that's where my brain started to go conspiracy. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Because you know what's going to be happening around September 20th of 2020. | ||
| Getting ready for the election in 2020. | ||
| Oh, I thought that was finally when we were going to redo 90210. | ||
| On September 20th, 2020, because Trump knows he's going to lose the 2020 election, they fake a Nibiru arrival. | ||
| They're going to fake a Nibiru arrival. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| Explain to me how you can fake a Nibiru. | ||
| And then they just put a giant cardboard cutout in the sky? | ||
| Do you know how many people work for FEMA? | ||
| All of them hold a lighter to the ground. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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Boom. | |
| How many people do work for FEMA? | ||
| I have no fucking idea. | ||
| Look, it doesn't matter. | ||
| A thousand? | ||
| It doesn't matter because I know one person who works there, Brock Long, and I don't believe he talked to Eddie Page about this shit. | ||
| So, whatever. | ||
| This is just more shit that, like, in the same way that you can't verify his school history or anything like that because he has three fucking names and he doesn't say where he went to school. | ||
| The same thing here. | ||
| You just, like, hey, Brock Long told me this shit. | ||
| You could Google who the head of FEMA is and stuff. | ||
| You can claim he talked to you. | ||
| He's never going to address it. | ||
| Nah, probably not. | ||
| He's never going to be like, this guy's lying. | ||
| He has other things to worry about. | ||
| Also, I think he just said something along the lines of... | ||
| Brock Long, I'm a-calling you out. | ||
| Put on the cowboy hat. | ||
| Metaphorically, put on the cowboy hat. | ||
| So I said that this is very similar to Alex's world because FEMA has started to come up. | ||
| And now in this next clip, it becomes far more clear. | ||
| I have been told by whistleblowers that there is a sort of shelf life of things that need repair on the planet. | ||
| Like, you know, railroads and, you know, infrastructure type things. | ||
| Airports. | ||
| And that there is a great deal of things right now that are in need of repair that they're not bothering to repair. | ||
| And that they're also trying to move populations. | ||
| As she says, there's evidence, growing evidence, and I'm aware of this as well, through my own intuition, dreams I've had, and so on, of a movement to get people away. | ||
| From the coasts and also to get them away from being out in the outlying areas so they won't have land. | ||
| They won't be able to have their own well. | ||
| They won't have their own water. | ||
| They'll have to all pack into FEMA camps and all this kind of thing so that when anything strikes, regardless of what it is, people will be quite vulnerable and then they can sort of decide your future for you. | ||
| So, government's gonna stage some false flags. | ||
| Or, no, no, no, they're just preparing for any disaster to happen. | ||
| Real or fake. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because she believes in false flags, too. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| Entirely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, apparently, the endgame of it is exactly the same as what Alex pitches, which is, get you into FEMA camps in order to take away your autonomy. | ||
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If you're mad that they're not fixing the roads, then fucking... | |
| Vote for people who are going to fix the... | ||
| The reason they're not fixing the roads is because they're too busy giving like $2 trillion to rich people. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| What are we doing here? | ||
| This is New Hampshire all over again. | ||
| Oh, we don't have sales tax here, but for some reason our roads are garbage. | ||
| God damn it, guys! | ||
| It's not like there aren't people who are pushing for fixing our infrastructure. | ||
| Yeah, it's super important! | ||
| The reason that we're not doing any of it is because people allocate money in the wrong places. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they generally allocate it towards giving people... | ||
| Rich people tax rebates. | ||
| All that money could easily update all this stuff. | ||
| It's not in the budget, Dan. | ||
| In the same way Eddie's using this idea that Nibiru's coming to explain away the effects of climate change, Carrie is using this conspiracy of trying to force us into FEMA camps to explain why rich oligarchs don't want to pay for public goods and public use. | ||
| Why are libraries deteriorating and no one cares about them? | ||
| Probably has to do with FEMA camps. | ||
| I don't fucking know, but why not? | ||
| It's like all of these people are smart enough to know what problems... | ||
| Smart enough to accept the problems, as opposed to your right wing, where they're just like, climate change isn't even happening. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| Don't look. | ||
| You know, like that kind of thing. | ||
| These people are all like... | ||
| Well, climate change is happening. | ||
| The oligarchs are destroying our infrastructure. | ||
| All of this stuff is going on. | ||
| But I'm still racist, so I can't be on the liberal side. | ||
| So maybe it's just aliens. | ||
| I'm sure all of them would describe themselves as libertarian, quite frankly. | ||
| But that's the thing. | ||
| They can't deal with the solution because it's associated with the people that they don't like for definitely not racist reasons. | ||
| So if you recognize the problem, then make up a different problem and call that one the solution. | ||
| I mean, it's the same thing that Alex does with climate change. | ||
| It's like, well, you know, there are problems, but they don't have the solution. | ||
| It's all about carbon taxes and stuff like that. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Which have been proven to work. | ||
| But the reason that you're talking about that they have a quote-unquote answer, or they believe the problem. | ||
| But then sort of jiggle around with the answer is because they're trying to sell something. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're con people, so they can't deny a whole cloth the reality that people see in front of them. | ||
| They have to just come up with a different explanation that serves their weird purposes. | ||
| Yeah, because rich people already took the good con. | ||
| They're the ones getting super rich. | ||
| You can't pull the same, like, just deny it, Khan. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| You gotta operate in the margins like a little lamprey, sucking off people. | ||
| Basically. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, here's another clip where we get Carrie and Eddie being pretty InfoWars adjacent. | ||
| Now, what I would like to do, however, is talk about what you think is the motivation. | ||
| For keeping the return of Planet X, Nibiru, Wormwood, whatever they want to call it, from the people. | ||
| In other words, are you of the opinion that they are going to basically try to put people in FEMA camps? | ||
| You've seen maybe the coffins and things they've shown. | ||
| Is this your understanding? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I will tell you this. | ||
| Why can't you just ever say yes or no? | ||
| I have researched the Rex 84 agenda. | ||
| This has been nothing hidden by any government, but I'll tell you viewers, call the United Nations who drafted the Rex 84 doctrine and see if you can get a copy of it. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| That's all I'll tell you. | ||
| I know that FEMA camps exist. | ||
| I don't know where they're at. | ||
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There's 647 of them in this country alone. | |
| These camps carry guillotines for organ harvesting. | ||
| They also have crematoires to get rid of the dead bodies. | ||
| There's easier ways to get organs out than guillotines. | ||
| Did he say guillotines for organ harvesting? | ||
| You bet he did. | ||
| Are they cutting... | ||
| Are they cutting your head off and then getting some organs? | ||
| Or are they chopping you in little sections? | ||
| Cutting your head off with a guillotine and then going in through the neck. | ||
| Going in through the neck! | ||
| With their hand to get the organs out. | ||
| That's a bad idea. | ||
| It's the only way to preserve the organs. | ||
| Look, this is dumb. | ||
| Even then, what's a great explanation for why the government would be hiding Nabooru coming back? | ||
| Because we're all going to die, so let's just not worry about it. | ||
| So let everyone live their lives? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Have a good time. | ||
| I would imagine that that's probably a reason, were any of this to be real, why they wouldn't talk about it. | ||
| Now, the other thing, I mean, we fucking talk about this all the time. | ||
| That Rex 84 shit was specifically... | ||
| Created by right-wingers in order to try and lock up dissidents and leftists. | ||
| And it was a discontinued plan. | ||
| It was not something that has continued since. | ||
| We've talked about all the FEMA camp shit in relation to Alex. | ||
| It's all bunk. | ||
| But the thing that I think is really disgraceful about these people's arguments, so the idea that there are preparations that the Federal Emergency Management Association is making should there be some sort of catastrophic event. | ||
| If they didn't do that, Eddie Page, Alex Jones, Carrie Cassidy would be the first people standing up and being like, the government is so evil they didn't prepare at all for this! | ||
| They would be the people who were victimized by the lack of preparation. | ||
| Coming and going. | ||
| It's a con. | ||
| It's a scam. | ||
| All of this isn't real. | ||
| They're not coming from an honest place. | ||
| If they were, they would actually look at the reality of these programs and what is made up and what is real and they would be like... | ||
| Eh, maybe this one doesn't prove aliens. | ||
| Or globalists. | ||
| Whichever one you want to choose. | ||
| That is such a good con because there's so many people who would be angry at anybody preparing for anything. | ||
| They're like, oh, you're preparing for a flood? | ||
| Do you know what that means? | ||
| You're going to cause a flood. | ||
| You're going to cause a flood. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Why would you prepare for something that you don't know is going to happen? | ||
| You can't see into the future, so you're going to make it happen. | ||
| You're evil. | ||
| Dude, that's the magical thinking of people who believe that there is a planet-sized spaceship out there that can phase in and out of existence. | ||
| Or a god. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| I don't have a clip of this, but Eddie Page at one point on this episode is like, I hate to rock the boat, but... | ||
| God is an idea created by man. | ||
| I was like, holy shit. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Eddie Page. | ||
| All right, Eddie Page coming in hot. | ||
| It is now Project Camelot canon that God's not real. | ||
| I don't want to throw out a strong take. | ||
| Ain't no God. | ||
| God is dead. | ||
| Can't come stronger. | ||
| Especially coming from a fucking alien. | ||
| Especially since Carrie and all of them believe in angels and shit like that. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
| At one point, I don't know if I have the clip of this, but Fuckin' Eddie Page calls himself a seraphim. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's kind of an angelic being. | ||
| Man, he's got a lot of titles. | ||
| He's a Pleiadian. | ||
| He's got a master's in geophysics. | ||
| He's all kinds of stuff. | ||
| You know what, though? | ||
| One title that would not become him is a worrier. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| He's not worried. | ||
| And you know why? | ||
| He has an exit strategy. | ||
| There is ships out there waiting to, well, it's not the rapture. | ||
| It is an extraction. | ||
| Because the final battle is going to be fought right here on Terra Firma. | ||
| Alright, so that's interesting, you know, that you're being so specific about it, and I do appreciate that. | ||
| So people will certainly know in two or three years if you're right or wrong. | ||
| I'm right. | ||
| I'm right. | ||
| There is no wrong in it. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Okay, so... | ||
| I'm right. | ||
| You're not. | ||
| I like... | ||
| I like what she... | ||
| She just did some judo right there. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I mean, when she said, like, I'm glad you're being so specific, or you're being so specific about it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which I appreciate. | ||
| She was really saying, like... | ||
| Don't be specific about it. | ||
| You're saying this dumb shit on my show. | ||
| This is disprovable eventually. | ||
| I don't want to look like an idiot for having you on. | ||
| Don't say specific shit. | ||
| This is Project Camelot. | ||
| Keep it nebulous. | ||
| It's gonna happen sometime. | ||
| Do you want to continue to be a guest for those years leading up to the date of your prediction? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Because if you do, and eventually you want to write a book that I'll help you sell... | ||
| You better not fucking say something that's disprovable. | ||
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| So, you know, I think he's full of shit. | ||
| But in this next clip, like I said, man, we've got this, everything is leading towards FEMA camps, which is a huge similarity with the world of Alex Jones. | ||
| And we get another one in this next clip, which isn't quite as huge, but, I mean, there's overlap. | ||
| Mr. Ledworth knows what's underneath. | ||
| The Vatican City. | ||
| He's referring to another guest of Project Camelot that he is not a fan of, and he believes misled Kerry. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| If you're talking about a layer of draconian influence, ask yourself this. | ||
| Why does the Vatican in St. Peter's Basilica have a throne called the Throne of Lucifer? | ||
| I've got pictures. | ||
| I've been to Vatican City once. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We at Camelot have been talking about what's under the Vatican for a long time. | ||
| And I can tell you that actually Ledwith lied to me, you know, with all due respect to the man. | ||
| No, I asked him about that. | ||
| I asked him about what's under the Vatican. | ||
| In fact, I told him what was under the Vatican and he denied it. | ||
| So, or at least denied knowledge of it. | ||
| So, you know, we have a whistleblower called Leo Zagami. | ||
| No, I know Leo. | ||
| I know Leo. | ||
| How do you know Leo? | ||
| And he was mind-controlled, and they actually did try to take him over. | ||
| But he seems to have sort of saved himself at the last minute and whatnot. | ||
| Anyway, he did a famous interview with us many years ago in which he actually revealed a great deal, to his credit, about what was under the Vatican and the Black Pope. | ||
| And a lot of other things going on there. | ||
| Leo Zagami is a pretty regular guest on Alex Jones and other InfoWars programs where he talks about insider stuff about the Vatican. | ||
| Now, when he's on Alex Jones' show or he's talking to Owen Schroer, he certainly doesn't tell them he was mind-controlled. | ||
| He saves that for Project Camelot. | ||
| That seems like an important detail. | ||
| There should at least be a disclaimer before those interviews. | ||
| When you're running a fucking con, you've got to know your audience. | ||
| And you're going to change it depending on who you're trying to convince. | ||
| When it's Alex, he tries to sound like the most scholarly man in the world. | ||
| And then when he's on fucking Project Camelot, he's like, yeah, these fucking alien beings that live under the Vatican have mind-controlled me, but I broke out of it at the last second because I'm very strong. | ||
| So, I mean, what are you going to do? | ||
| Another overlap, though. | ||
| Someone who's a guest on both of their programs, and for some reason, Eddie Page knows Leo Zagami. | ||
| There's no way he just... | ||
| He knows everybody in this episode. | ||
| Reagan. | ||
| Every single name that anybody has thrown out there, he's like, oh yeah, I know that guy. | ||
| Zachariah Sitchin, Ronald Reagan, Bush. | ||
| Close friends. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Close friends all. | ||
| I miss him. | ||
| I wish I talked to Leo more. | ||
| Leo, text me. | ||
| So there's a Draco base underneath the Vatican. | ||
| I thought it was just whipped cream. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| We wish it was whipped cream. | ||
| Industrial-sized whipped cream. | ||
| Unfortunately, I regret to report it is not whipped cream. | ||
| It is a Draco base. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, how do we get rid of them? | ||
| I'll tell you how. | ||
| Pour a lot of whipped cream down there. | ||
| It could work. | ||
| They can't breathe whipped cream. | ||
| Nobody can. | ||
| Now, I have even worse news. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Bad news. | ||
| Vatican is actually a Draco base. | ||
| Draco base, right. | ||
| Worst news, there's more Draco bases. | ||
| John Kerry went down to the sea. | ||
| John Kerry? | ||
| Do you know him? | ||
| Dracos have a base there. | ||
| They've had a base down there for a long, long time. | ||
| In Antarctica. | ||
| They've got other bases also. | ||
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Week? | |
| Two weeks? | ||
| Well, I just talked about one of them. | ||
| They're in Vatican City. | ||
| We can go about the... | ||
| The battle that took place in Dulce, New Mexico. | ||
| Oh, fun. | ||
| He fucking just does every conspiracy. | ||
| He's just throwing them all in there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Dulce base. | ||
| There was a battle between aliens and humans in the Dulce base. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I don't want to get into this. | ||
| This is all based on a sadly mentally ill person who ended up committing suicide, who created this elaborate hoax. | ||
| Also, another similarity with InfoWars, he's saying that John Kerry went down to Antarctica for some sort of nefarious reason. | ||
| Dr. Hamamoto and Owen Schroyer would suggest that it's for weather weapons. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's saying it's because there's a Draco base there. | ||
| Certainly not mutually exclusive. | ||
| No, Dracos have weather weapons. | ||
| You would assume. | ||
| Eh, why wouldn't you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're a Draco. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| This is just such bullshit. | ||
| So, in this next clip, you know, he's running down the gamut of all conspiracy theories, hitting all of his bases. | ||
| And in this next one, he hits... | ||
| On the ancient archaeology world a little bit. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I'll probably murder this. | ||
| I apologize now, but Tene Tekepi in Turkey? | ||
| Oh, Gobekli Tepe. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Gobekli Tepe? | ||
| They found three skeletons there when it was first started being excavated by the archaeologists. | ||
| They found three skeletons there that stood over 18 foot tall. | ||
| This is a hoax. | ||
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Now, you won't hear that on CNN, will you? | |
| Did you know about that, Kerry? | ||
| Because it's not true. | ||
| Yes, I know quite a bit about Gobekli Tepe. | ||
| It's one of the things, I don't know specifically three, but I know that this is a place that was actually used as sacrificing humans, supposedly also genetically engineering humans by various races. | ||
| So it is a system of portals, and I'm not surprised at what you're saying, because there's a guy named Hugh Newman, and he worked with another guy. | ||
| His name is Jim, and I forget his last name. | ||
| But at any rate, they wrote a book on giants. | ||
| They've been touring the world, documenting the finds of giant skeletons all over the world. | ||
| And they've found... | ||
| Unbelievable numbers all over the world, and specifically in North America, have been a tremendous number of giant skeletons. | ||
| Where they spend most of their time. | ||
| Yes, and in Egypt, there's a museum down there that has a photograph of a giant skeleton that happens to be on the museum wall. | ||
| Did the Egyptians take that photo? | ||
| They forgot to take it down. | ||
| In fact, the British Museum of... | ||
| It's surgery or something like that. | ||
| I happened to visit it when I was in Britain. | ||
| It actually has a giant skeleton that's standing right next to a human. | ||
| And it's a real skeleton. | ||
| It's not a fake skeleton. | ||
| Which one? | ||
| It's not caused by some kind of genetic anomaly. | ||
| No, it isn't. | ||
| These are real live beings, Gary. | ||
| Just like you. | ||
| Just like me. | ||
| We've already been over this. | ||
| But, like, what if it was, though? | ||
| She's talking about a skeleton that, like, was a sideshow performer. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, they know who that guy was. | ||
| Definitely not a genetic deformity. | ||
| We've been over this. | ||
| Or not deformity. | ||
| To the point, this is not some sort of, like, Anunnaki skeleton or anything like that. | ||
| It's a guy who people are, they know who he is. | ||
| And they're campaigning to get his bones released from the museum. | ||
| Wait until they get a hold of Yao Ming's skeleton. | ||
| They're going to go ape shit. | ||
| Also, the person that that skeleton is next to is a smaller person, because they want to create the forced perspective of this person being much gianter than... | ||
| Much like in a circus show, you would have the very, very large guy next to the very, very small guy. | ||
| It's kind of an old hat thing. | ||
| So Gobekli Tepe is a really interesting sort of archaeological site because it does represent a very early civilization that goes back to, as I understand, you know, 12,000 to 4,000 years ago, somewhere in that range, the Neolithic period. | ||
| The idea that there were 18-foot skeletons found there is not true. | ||
| That was a hoax that he is just repeating as if it were true. | ||
| But the reality of Gobekli Tepe is really much more interesting than Carrie and Eddie's conspiracies would lead you to know. | ||
| They found last year indications that it is possibly one of the first skull cults in history. | ||
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Skults? | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So here, I'll read to you from this Newsweek article. | ||
| Gobekli Tepe is an extremely important archaeological site. | ||
| First discovered in the 1960s, it comprises of huge stone slabs that had been purposefully arranged there, a little like UK's Stonehenge, only far older. | ||
| The site is thought to have been used first for ritual or religious purposes rather than domestic, meaning it's widely considered the world's first temple. | ||
| While the practice of modifying and displaying skulls for religious purposes was widespread during the Neolithic period, the skulls at Gobekli Tepe represent the earliest evidence of it. | ||
| This potentially means that it's the first Neolithic skull cult, civilizations that carried out ritual modifications to skulls after death. | ||
| Quote, three skulls discovered at the site of Gobekli Tepe in southeastern Anatolia region of Turkey were found to have been carved and drilled into. | ||
| The deep incision had been made along the sagatal axes, running vertically from the forehead to the back of the skull. | ||
| One of the skulls also had a hole drilled into it from the top left of the cranium, which they determined to have been done after death as a sort of like... | ||
| Ritual thing done with skulls because skulls are weird. | ||
| That sounds more fun than what we do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck cremation. | ||
| Drill a hole in my skull. | ||
| Mess with the skull. | ||
| Yeah, fuck with my head. | ||
| Or maybe they're doing old-fashioned treppening or something like that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Anyway, who cares? | ||
| All this stuff about giant skeletons is bullshit. | ||
| You know what's crazy? | ||
| I really... | ||
| I should have noticed this way before now. | ||
| All of this sounds like they're gossiping. | ||
| Like, did you notice everything is like... | ||
| Well, did you know that there were these giant skulls? | ||
| And she's like, well, yeah, but did you know that over here there's some FEMA camps? | ||
| And he's like, well, did you hear what just, you know, they might as well be in a hair salon. | ||
| Basically. | ||
| They're all gossiping about angels and demons and aliens. | ||
| And the conversation is as based in reality as a gossip sesh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, now, we've already, I believe, done a decent service of... | ||
| Connecting this to the world of Alex Jones through the FEMA camp fears, that narrative, through similar faces like Leo Zagami popping up in both places. | ||
| Among other people like Robert David Steele has been on both. | ||
| There's countless other examples. | ||
| David Icke. | ||
| But you'd expect him to be in both places. | ||
| But now we find a very interesting similarity. | ||
| David Icke has rare crossover appeal. | ||
| He does. | ||
| But we now see an interesting crossover between narratives that are being sold on Project Camelot. | ||
| If you don't believe me, go to Chaco Valley. | ||
| Talk to the native Navajo. | ||
| And let them tell you the story of Raven Valley. | ||
| The cliff people. | ||
| Why were they living on the cliff? | ||
| It wasn't because of the view. | ||
| They were up there because they were hiding. | ||
| Who were they hiding from? | ||
| The Dracos. | ||
| That tracks! | ||
| As the Hopi and the Zuni talked about them, there was a blue Kachina star. | ||
| Well, that blue Kachina star was worship, but there was a red Kachina star that brought death and destruction. | ||
| It was hiding on the other side of the sun, though. | ||
| People can go to my YouTube channel, and I show some of the evidence from Raven Rock in Mexico, and also from Chaco Valley, where the Anasazi and the Zuni and the Hopi lived. | ||
| people. | ||
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They were not the warlord, bloodthirsty Indians that Hollywood has painted. | |
| These were peace-loving people until they were in invaded. | ||
| And who invaded them? | ||
| The Americans. | ||
| The petroglyphs they showed. | ||
| It was people in large, saucer, silvery craft. | ||
| And they showed these dragon beasts with pointed ears and wings, and they showed people being slaughtered. | ||
| This is exactly the narrative that was being pitched by that guest on Jim Baker's show that we covered a while back. | ||
| This is exactly the same nonsense. | ||
| defense. | ||
| Counterpoint to your argument, you shouldn't call them Anasazi because they're ancient Pueblens, or ancestral Pueblens is the correct term to use. | ||
| Hey, and you know why? | ||
| Because Anasazi means ancient enemies. | ||
| So, if you're trying to say that they're peaceful people, why is that the name that was given to them? | ||
| They were their enemies. | ||
| I'm not saying that the media and Hollywood's perceptions of native peoples is accurate in any way. | ||
| No, it was rough. | ||
| F-Troop is not historically accurate, let's say, or that sort of shit. | ||
| But the idea that everyone lived in peace and harmony also is equally inaccurate just based on their fucking names that you're misusing. | ||
| You dumb pile of shit. | ||
| It would be a weird thing to name yourselves ancient enemies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It'd be an odd thing to do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's almost like... | ||
| It's self-contradictory. | ||
| I do like the idea of a tribe that's like, what should we... | ||
| What are we... | ||
| Oh, I hate everybody here. | ||
| We're ancient enemies. | ||
| We're the bad boys. | ||
| We've been fighting this whole time. | ||
| We're the bad boys of the continent. | ||
| They're the Sharks, not the Jets. | ||
| I get preemptively mad at Eddie because I know it's coming up in this next clip. | ||
| But I earlier made the case that possibly, not saying definitely, but possibly Eddie Page is expressing some of his deep-seated feelings about other races and minorities through this Draco-Pleadian division that he's putting into the world. | ||
| Mic down for this next clip. | ||
| Because there's some subtleties to the things he's saying that I want to make sure you catch all of. | ||
| The ones that are left here, like... | ||
| So real quick, he's talking about when those spaceships that he mentioned earlier pick up the people who are cool and make sure that they don't get caught in the rapture that's coming. | ||
| Our fine people in Vatican City, they will feel the fire. | ||
| They will feel the final solution. | ||
| Things are getting ready to unravel here. | ||
| These media blackbirds are programmed, and when they get the final green light, as I like to say, they will rise out of their nest. | ||
| And there will be total destruction on all that are left on this planet, including their main mission, to search out all draconians. | ||
| You're talking about a complete extermination? | ||
| You don't have to call Terminex or Orkin on this one. | ||
| We already have this under control. | ||
| So within a minute, he references something called the Final Solution and talks about exterminating this demonic group that he is... | ||
| It's tendrils all over the place. | ||
| They have a base under the Vatican. | ||
| That's certainly not something that anti-Semites have hinted at, the idea that the papacy is under the control of some nebulous Jewish cabal that has taken over. | ||
| Now, I'm not saying that it tracks 100%, but these sorts of ideas and the language that he's using are deeply reminiscent of anti-Semitic canards throughout history. | ||
| This is... | ||
| It's a plausible explanation for some of this that he's putting out there into the world. | ||
| I'm deeply uncomfortable about it. | ||
| And I probably would be like, eh, you know what? | ||
| I'm going to give him a pass on this language and stuff like that. | ||
| Maybe it's just overly dramatic ways that he's expressing himself. | ||
| But I can't. | ||
| Because the last time we looked at him and listened to him, he was saying, hey, it sucks, but you don't want to hear it, but racism's right a bunch of the time. | ||
| So when you already have someone who's like, I am a deeply racist person and I'm not wrong to feel that way, you kind of have to hear these sorts of things through that prism. | ||
| And when you have such poorly defined groups as Pleiadians and Draconians, then you kind of have to think that maybe you're talking in code. | ||
| Might be. | ||
| Might be. | ||
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Might be a little bit. | |
| Might be. | ||
| You think that fake genocide was bad. | ||
| Let me tell you about the real genocide that's coming. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Good work, dude. | ||
| So, at this point, Carrie brings up... | ||
| Something that I know Mark Richards told her, and that is that idea that we talked about that there's some satellites up there in the space that are low-tech, so AI can't take over them or whatever. | ||
| No, that makes sense. | ||
| To this, to this, Eddie Page's response is to laugh in her face. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's just like, ha, ha, ha, ha, that's dumb. | ||
| Not worth listening to that necessarily, because what comes after it... | ||
| That's not fair. | ||
| Eddie, you don't get to laugh. | ||
| You don't get to laugh at anybody. | ||
| He's having a good time. | ||
| You don't get to laugh at anybody. | ||
| But this also is demonstrative of the fact that I think, well, Carrie doesn't bring up that it was Mark Richards that told her this, because I think she's forgotten even where the narrative came from. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's so tertiary to anything that she cares about. | ||
| And so... | ||
| It's Eddie Page sort of flexing. | ||
| Like, ha ha, I can laugh at something that you think is true. | ||
| I have become so insinuated in your world. | ||
| This is my fifth time on in like three months. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You fucking need me now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I have taken over, to some extent, that it gets good to him, this feeling of power that he has on the show. | ||
| And it leads him to this super fucked up clip. | ||
| Have you realized in the last four days that a lot of satellites around the globe went down? | ||
| You know, I have been hearing that periodically, so what do you want to say about that? | ||
| Well, Mr. Page, if this is real, prove it. | ||
| Do something dramatic. | ||
| Let's see something beyond understandable. | ||
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What? | |
| Okay. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Flu's communications right now for your alphabet agencies, and we'll just not take it in America. | ||
| Let's take it global. | ||
| Well, we didn't shut them all down, and we don't play nice when we're challenged. | ||
| I'll be the first to admit that. | ||
| But we shut down several military high-tech communication satellites. | ||
| The Chinese are scratching their head. | ||
| What just happened? | ||
| Vladimir Putin saying, told you so! | ||
| And Americans' agencies like the NSA and, oh, some of Facebook. | ||
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They went down. | |
| Will they come back up? | ||
| They might. | ||
| It depends on how we feel. | ||
| We could be in a bad mood and take them all out. | ||
| So, Eddie Page is taking responsibility for satellites going down. | ||
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Yep. | |
| He did it. | ||
| You absolutely, I saw it in your face, you noticed a quirk of his language where he said the Chinese were scratching their heads what happened. | ||
| Vladimir Putin said, I told you so. | ||
| Now, that's interesting because he's saying, or at least what he's pretending he's saying, is that his Pleiadian brothers... | ||
| That's the force that he's on the side of. | ||
| They were the ones who took down these satellites. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Now, it's interesting because just today, as we're recording this, on September 10th, 2018, an article came out in Popular Mechanics about how the French are accusing Russia of meddling with their satellites. | ||
| Quote, France has charged the Russian government with one of the biggest ever cases of space espionage. | ||
| France has administered... | ||
| Space espionage. | ||
| France's Minister of Events. | ||
| Defense. | ||
| Defense. | ||
| Complained that a Russian satellite with, quote, big ears maneuvered too close to a French satellite, eavesdropping on the advanced communications satellite. | ||
| So there's accusations flying around of unapproved and anomalous movement patterns among Russian satellites that are indicating that they're engaging in space espionage. | ||
| That would be one thing. | ||
| But also, there was an article that came out in July on Sputnik about how, quote, Russia is developing a new electronic warfare aircraft which will be capable to turn off electronics installed on military satellites. | ||
| Cool, bro. | ||
| Cool, cool, cool. | ||
| Cool, cool, cool, cool. | ||
| There's a reason that Eddie said, quote, Putin said I told you so. | ||
| Just like Alex and the rest of the Patriot world, Eddie... | ||
| Loves Vladimir Putin. | ||
| What is wrong with these people? | ||
| And he's expressing that that's the team that he's on. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| When he's saying that, like... | ||
| We. | ||
| He said we shut it down. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Oh, God. | ||
| All indications from all other reputable media are indicating that Russia may be behind this sort of espionage shit. | ||
| So, that's jarring. | ||
| But again, just another concrete similarity between him and Alex Jones. | ||
| Now, it's interesting because here at the end of the show, Carrie opens it up to questions from the audience. | ||
| And they lead us to learn a couple of interesting things where Eddie is a little bit dumb and possibly doesn't have a good answer for stuff. | ||
| Here's the first one. | ||
| Now, someone is asking you if you know anything about QAnon. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Pay close attention to it. | ||
| Yeah, I'm Adam. | ||
| Pay close attention to it. | ||
| I'm Adam. | ||
| Eddie Page is into QAnon. | ||
| I hung out with QAnon in 1989. | ||
| Actually, it's Reagan. | ||
| Reagan faked his death in order to become QAnon. | ||
| That sounds like something they might as well believe. | ||
| Great. | ||
| So that's the first one. | ||
| And then the next one is a bit funnier. | ||
| And that's why it's where we're going to end. | ||
| And that is Carrie asking a question about one of her alien races that she talked about a bunch. | ||
| And Eddie being just completely out of sorts. | ||
| Okay, well, what about the mantid beings? | ||
| The mantid beings? | ||
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Well... | |
| Long pause, dude. | ||
| You just can't make this stuff up. | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
| Look, there are statues of praying mantis beings from Gobekli Tepe that we came across. | ||
| So they've been around a long, long time. | ||
| They supposedly... | ||
| Are trying to cross over to the light side to align themselves with humans. | ||
| That's the latest information we have. | ||
| Simon Parks is a whistleblower who talks about that quite a bit. | ||
| He also fucks aliens. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| I miss Simon Parks. | ||
| He was really fun. | ||
| I'd like you to come back soon. | ||
| I like Simon Parks. | ||
| Long pause. | ||
| You can't make this stuff up. | ||
| That sounded like a regretful... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I couldn't make something up this time. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Or I can't remember what I've made up in the past. | ||
| That's sort of where my mind goes with that. | ||
| You just can't make this stuff up. | ||
| So, also, at the end of this episode, Eddie has a really long sort of fantasy sequence where he's telling what's going to happen to the people who get taken up into their fine spaceships. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's basically like, we will teach you new ways to eat. | ||
| We will teach you new ways of energy, so all will never have to dig for coal again. | ||
| You're never going to eat meat again. | ||
| We'll introduce you to vegetarianism. | ||
| Well, then fucking do it now! | ||
| Oh, nah, can't. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| You can't, because the powers that be that are in charge are not going to let you adopt those ways of being. | ||
| You've got fucking spacecraft and shit! | ||
| If you can do all that, just do a hard pass on the leaders. | ||
| It's convoluted, but it makes sense if you already accept his primary premise, and then it flows from there. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| It's all a hot load of nonsense. | ||
| So anyway, that brings us to the end of this adventure, where we learn a lot, I guess. | ||
| It was a barrage of... | ||
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It was like a... | |
| Oh, it's like a collage. | ||
| Like, it was just, he put all kinds of shit. | ||
| A collage barrage. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He just put all kinds of shit up on the wall, and he's like, look, it's art. | ||
| Yeah, but it's not art. | ||
| It's all just things he's caught piecemeal from conspiracy theories that already exist. | ||
| What we've learned is that Eddie Page has absolutely read Zachariah Sitchin's work and has just decided... | ||
| Oh, that's my story now. | ||
| That sounds good. | ||
| So that's basically what's going on. | ||
| He's like the girl talk of conspiracy theories. | ||
| He's just mixing and matching. | ||
| He's just remixing. | ||
| But buried within, we find very, very specific similarities to Alex Jones' world that I think should make it much more clear why these worlds are connected, though what they choose to... | ||
| where they draw the line is different. | ||
| And what they decide is becoming conduct might be a little bit different. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But their worlds are fundamentally the same. | ||
| Anyway, this has been a lot of fun, Jordan. | ||
| We have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| We do. | ||
| Where do you find it? | ||
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
| You can also search knowledge and fight. | ||
| You can do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| That was a reference to whenever she over-explained looking for a YouTube video. | ||
| God damn it, Dan. | ||
| You also can go to www.twitter.com on your AltaVista browser. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Thank you for playing along, Dan. | ||
| Internet Explorer. | ||
| Sorry, I'm late to the game. | ||
| And go click enter. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And then search for knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| There we are. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| And Twitter is a microblogging platform where people can write little short blurbs. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We're also on Facebook. | ||
| We are. | ||
| There's a group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant. | ||
| Join it. | ||
| Everybody's having a lot of fun there. | ||
| Recently, people posted pictures of their pets. | ||
| It was a lot of fun. | ||
| There's a lot of support for other people. | ||
| It's pretty fucking great. | ||
| It's pretty fucking great. | ||
| And Sonia, super sorry about what's going on in Sweden right now. | ||
| That's a huge bummer. | ||
| What a bummer. | ||
| But also, I'm going to rebrand Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant. | ||
| It's the place where good people hang out. | ||
| Oh, that's nice. | ||
| Also, as soon as I say that, we're going to get bombarded with trolls. | ||
| It's going to be a disaster. | ||
| We had a good run. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Also, we're on iTunes, all that sort of good stuff. | ||
| Indeed, you can download it. | ||
| There are other microblogging places where you can share. | ||
| Sure, like Reddit, maybe, if you want to post about us on there. | ||
| We don't mind. | ||
| We're not going to do it ourselves. | ||
| We want to stay away from that. | ||
| Also, isn't it against their rules to self-promote and that shit? | ||
| I think so, but who knows how rigidly anyone... | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Anyway, we've not talked about Alex Jones at all, really, in this episode, except for the similarities with him and Project Camelot's world. | ||
| But it is important to remember that he probably killed a dude. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |