Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the August 17, 2018 episode of The Alex Jones Show. Alex is in a weird place with his being kicked off so many social media platforms, and in response, it appears that he's beginning to show little signs of his old self coming back. Unfortunately, he's also showing signs of his present self getting worse, and possibly stupider.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| Workable dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Hey. | ||
| What's the farthest you've traveled at one point in one period? | ||
| Like in one jump? | ||
| Like, have you ever flown ten hours straight? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, let's move on then. | ||
| No, I think I flew, I can't remember where we flew out of, might have been New York to Paris. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh, that's a long flight. | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| I don't know distance as well. | ||
| It's not short. | ||
| I don't know exactly how long it was, but yeah, we had a layover in Paris and then went on to somewhere in Greece. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Landed somewhere in Greece. | ||
| And then we took a little biplane, like a propeller plane. | ||
| You should never do that. | ||
| That's so scary. | ||
| That sounds amazing. | ||
| It's so scary. | ||
| I would rather fly on a biplane than Southwest any fucking day of the year. | ||
| It doesn't feel right to be in a propeller plane. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It feels like you're spitting in God's eye. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Yeah, it's rude. | ||
| Is that your Yelp review of all my planes? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Rude. | ||
| Rude, sir. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I'm sure you're bringing this up because you just got back from your weekend in Maine. | ||
| Yeah, I just wanted to give a quick disclaimer. | ||
| I'm off a lot of travel. | ||
| Straight from the airport. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And I'm straight off watching the first two hours of SummerSlam. | ||
| So we're in the same spot. | ||
| So we're both in a weird place. | ||
| It's weird when you're traveling and flying where it's like you can get... | ||
| That's a weird feeling. | ||
| I think a lot of people are experiencing that with the air and water show here in Chicago this weekend. | ||
| A lot of army planes flying overhead whilst people drink. | ||
| Hey, isn't that great that we have a giant, massive military-industrial complex advertisement on the weekend? | ||
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That's nice. | |
| It is great. | ||
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| Sponsor? | ||
| New donor? | ||
| No, not sponsor. | ||
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Type in Simon as your code. | |
| So, Jordan, today I want to give you a little teaser. | ||
| I've been back in the past in 2009 and I have gotten to the day of the Tea Party. | ||
| No shit! | ||
| We're not going to cover it today. | ||
| You son of a bitch, I hate you. | ||
| But that is an assurance for you and our listeners that the next episode will get us there finally. | ||
| So there's that. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But I thought today on this Monday episode, I thought one of the things that would be good is I think at least once a week we should check in on the present day and see what's going on. | ||
| Just tip our little, like take a little peek behind the curtain and see what's up. | ||
| And so today we're going to be going over the August 17th, 2018 episode. | ||
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All right. | |
| And man, my mind was blown. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| From a present day? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Alright, let's do this. | ||
| There's a number of things that are going to happen, you're going to see on this show, that, well, while... | ||
| Did Rainbow Snatch take over and host for the rest of the... | ||
| She's not in play. | ||
| Not in play. | ||
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No. | |
| Okay. | ||
| There's a lot of predictions that we've made about, like, you know, what's gonna happen and stuff like that. | ||
| I think a number of our predictions are accurate. | ||
| But something is going on that no one could have predicted, and I don't think anybody except you and I would even have noticed. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So we, I believe, are going to share some insight about what's happening to present-day Alex Jones that you will not be able to get anywhere else. | ||
| The first thing is that this commercial plays. | ||
| Of course it has to do with money! | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yes! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| There's some money issues. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| So this commercial plays before each chunk. | ||
| I got these in chunks, like the hour chunks. | ||
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Is it podcast? | |
| Yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I got it in the three chunks, but it's just a recording of the stream. | ||
| You know, it's just a recording of the broadcast. | ||
| And each one starts with this. | ||
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This hour by Frederick Remington, fully cooked, ready to eat bacon. | |
| Exclusive, no refrigeration, 10-year extended shelf life bacon. | ||
| The thickest media center cut bacon in the industry. | ||
| At fullycookedbacon.com. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| Fullycookedbacon.com. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Order me. | ||
| Order me at fullycookedbacon.com. | ||
| Ten-year shelf life bacon. | ||
| I want it to sizzle when it comes to my door. | ||
| That's pretty wild. | ||
| God, we're returning to the Diamond Gusset days. | ||
| That's what I'm liking now. | ||
| He's got some ads that were very much not there before. | ||
| So good. | ||
| Have not been in the last years that we've been listening. | ||
| I'd listen to the show, and it would all be Alex Jones-related commercials. | ||
| It would all be his products. | ||
| Now we've got fucking... | ||
| Fullycookedbacon.com So now we get to the beginning of the actual show. | ||
| He plays a long special report from Paul Joseph Watson. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Probably like a good four minute thing. | ||
| I'm like, that is too long for Paul. | ||
| Well, it is about the merits of eating cured bacon as opposed to cooking it yourself. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| And actually where I decided to fast forward through it and listen to it is like, you know, they're trying to destroy Western civilization. | ||
| And they're going to. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| You've done your job. | ||
| Let's move on. | ||
| We get in to Alex starting off the show, and I think that there's something very familiar here, but at the same time, I think there's something else that merits mentioning. | ||
| It's Friday, August 17, 2018. | ||
| This is the second time within the first eight minutes of the show that he's played the final countdown, by the way. | ||
| There's only 81 days left until the most important elections in U.S. history. | ||
| We are the tip of the spear attempting to alert the American people in the world to the threat of globalism and the all-out assault on Western civilization and America. | ||
| Whatever you do, realize. | ||
| The globalists have made a miscalculation and are committed to shut down this transmission with every form of assault you can imagine because they believe you're stupid and won't notice what's happening. | ||
| So do I. But they can bring in the draconian Chinese communist style censorship in America. | ||
| But we are here exposing it. | ||
| They are scared of this information because it is the answer to their corruption. | ||
| Again, thank you so much for joining us on this Friday global broadcast. | ||
| So the stuff about him being like, we're the most scary and they hate us because we're the ones who can bring them down, very familiar. | ||
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Of course. | |
| But if you noticed at the beginning there, he's saying that the midterms are the most important elections in U.S. history. | ||
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Right. | |
| Which is exactly what he said about the 2016 election. | ||
| It's not something that he said about previous elections. | ||
| And the reason that I'm bringing this up is because we take a glimpse now into Alex Jones, and it's really interesting to see him be what I describe as a political hack. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Because that's what sensationalist people do all the time. | ||
| We heard that over and over again from people on the center right and center left. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Through the 2008 election, even the 2004 election. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You'd hear that from them. | ||
| This is the most important election of all time because they're trying to juice up the base. | ||
| They're trying to get people more excited and make sure the turnout is good. | ||
| And now Alex is doing the exact same thing, which I think is conduct unbecoming of him. | ||
| Like, I know that I'm holding him to a standard. | ||
| I don't think it's that important. | ||
| I mean, the midterms are important. | ||
| You all should go vote. | ||
| But I don't think that the Democrats getting a slim majority in something is necessarily going to lead to impeachment. | ||
| It should. | ||
| But it won't, because they're a bunch of fucking cowards. | ||
| And I don't think that Republicans retaining it, while I hope that's not the case, I don't think that that's going to lead to running amok and signing all sorts of immoral legislation. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| Any more than it already is. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, that's a better way of putting it. | ||
| And it's not like they're going to not... | ||
| I think it's incredibly important, as I think all elections are fairly important. | ||
| Yeah, I would say so. | ||
| I'm not ready to be like, if the Democrats lose this, it's the end of the world, because that's sensationalist. | ||
| I would say, in all honesty... | ||
| The 2000 election was probably the most important election in history. | ||
| For America. | ||
| It set the ball rolling in a really bad path, that's for damn sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How is George W. Bush still alive? | ||
| Like, shouldn't he be dead? | ||
| He's a decent painter, man. | ||
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But he lied and got millions of people killed on a lot! | |
| Yeah, but those paintings... | ||
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Went on a lot! | |
| You can't just lie and get millions of people killed and face no consequences for it. | ||
| Turns out you can. | ||
| It turns out you can. | ||
| He's a charming old man who paints. | ||
| Let's kill him anyway. | ||
| No, because that's all he's ever been. | ||
| You forget. | ||
| Yeah, well, at least let's kill Dick Cheney. | ||
| That seems fair. | ||
| And probably Dennis Hester. | ||
| Is he still alive to live? | ||
| I think he's alive. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| Did Trump pardon him? | ||
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No, that would be a bridge too far, I think. | |
| If Trump just was like, look, I'm going to push the boundaries. | ||
| I'm going to see how crazy I can get. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| How about all child molesters are free now? | ||
| Epstein. | ||
| Yeah, gone. | ||
| Oh, dude, if he pardoned Jeffrey Epstein, imagine what that would be to Alex's narrative. | ||
| Fucking yes. | ||
| It would be a disaster. | ||
| I'd love it. | ||
| I mean, not on moral reasons. | ||
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No. | |
| It would be a very undignified thing to do. | ||
| So, in this next clip... | ||
| I think we see another thing that Alex is fully embodying a partisan hack in much clearer terms than he was even doing a couple months ago, I think. | ||
| The left, as I've told you for 20 plus years, is brainwashed to hate America and is trained by the high schools, the colleges, the mainline churches, the culture. | ||
| That America is the ultimate evil in the world because the globalists want a one-world planetary government that controls America and other Western nations to enforce their planetary plan of absolute and complete domination. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So the part that I'm referring to there is he starts out by saying, I've been telling you for 20 years that the left is brainwashed, when, dude, your entire platform for years was that the left and the right are the same. | ||
| That they're equally bad and they are the same thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's not saying that anymore because, as we talk about a lot, the right isn't the right anymore. | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| What is now the Republicans and the GOP is fringe crazies for the most part. | ||
| The right is a disease now. | ||
| It is not something that is like a political party. | ||
| It's some sort of virus. | ||
| Well, it's still a political party in some formal ways, but the political party isn't what the... | ||
| Like the GOP of 20 years ago. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| It's something that has become beholden to fucking white. | ||
| Nationalism and... | ||
| Entirely. | ||
| And cruelty. | ||
| White nationalism and cruelty. | ||
| It's not a political party. | ||
| It's an exploitation machine. | ||
| Yeah, George H.W. Bush raised taxes. | ||
| Do you remember that? | ||
| I do. | ||
| Do you remember when Reagan raised taxes? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Do you remember when Republicans were like, maybe we should govern the country. | ||
| Instead of, maybe we should strip mine it and make sure that poor people die in the streets. | ||
| It's like, maybe this could go bad. | ||
| Which is not to say that Reagan did not do that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We'll get to that in a little bit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Alex actually has a really correct assessment of Reagan in a little bit. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
| Ah, it's boggling. | ||
| So Alex is in trouble right now, obviously. | ||
| He's losing everything around him. | ||
| He's being sued by multiple people. | ||
| He's being... | ||
| Talked about more than ever. | ||
| And I think that a lot of people are talking about him irresponsibly. | ||
| But there are a lot of people who aren't. | ||
| And there's a lot of things that Alex has said in the past that's being brought up. | ||
| And he doesn't like that. | ||
| Because the things he said in the past were terrible. | ||
| And so he's creating a version in his head of what's happening to him. | ||
| And it's really interesting to see. | ||
| There has to be a part of him that's like... | ||
| No, you can't bring that up. | ||
| That was when no one was listening. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| That doesn't count. | ||
| I thought I was talking into a CB for truckers, man. | ||
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Yeah, come on. | |
| Come on. | ||
| That's on you guys. | ||
| Look, I was drunk. | ||
| I was blacked out since I was nine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So here he gets into what he perceives to be what's happening in the world, and he's not correct on any count. | ||
| They have decided to take me, build me up as this monster, and then use me as the first domino to fall to eradicate free speech in the West. | ||
| That is all confirmed now. | ||
| Law firms in D.C. have gone and looked at the statements by Democrats in Congress, their own secret reports, and have concurred that by next year they plan to basically end the First Amendment in America. | ||
| They're going to nuke it. | ||
| How? | ||
| They're going to nuke it. | ||
| This doesn't work like this. | ||
| No, it works like that. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| If Obama was trying to get Alex kicked off Facebook, I would be on Alex's side. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, if it really was the government doing something like this, I would be on his side. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| If, like, let's say the president tweeted some sort of support for a private corporation forcing people to do things at the government's behest, that would be tyranny. | ||
| There's no way that anyone would accept that kind of behavior from the government. | ||
| That's anti-American to the core! | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's crazy how... | ||
| That would be unacceptable. | ||
| It would be... | ||
| Unacceptable! | ||
| So, and I would even say this, that if you were able to produce evidence that the, like, YouTube and Facebook and MailKimp, like, if you could produce evidence for me that all of them did get together and say, hey, let's kick Alex off at the same time. | ||
| I'm not sure I'm going to side with Alex, but it'll be a different conversation. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I don't believe that they are working in concert. | ||
| Like we've talked about over and over again, it seems very clear that one jumped and they all were like, we can now have cover to do this. | ||
| They were all a bunch of cowards and then one of them was like, eh, fuck it. | ||
| We'll share the heat on this and we'll all get through it. | ||
| But not like in some way that they coordinated and had that plan. | ||
| But if you could produce that, then I would have the exact same conversation that I'm already willing to have, and that is that these companies suck. | ||
| But it's still not a suppression of his free speech, because it's not the government. | ||
| If they got together, like if there was a backroom deal amongst the CEOs of all of those corporations, and they all agreed on something, that's where we get into like... | ||
| Torches and pitchfork territory, because that is tremendous overreach of a power that can't be allowed to continue. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Or at least you need to petition the government to really get into breaking them up. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| That's an information trust in the same way that all of the railroads orchestrating prices in the 1910s was a trust. | ||
| Again, without us getting too deeply down this road... | ||
| I still don't think that there's a monopoly of access on the internet or anything like that. | ||
| But if they all got together in a back room, that's a whole different conversation there. | ||
| It would... | ||
| Like, we gotta investigate that. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| At least. | ||
| We gotta do an investigation on that. | ||
| At least ask some questions. | ||
| Oh, also, hey, Bill Maher. | ||
| This is so fun. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| Bill Maher came out and said, like, Alex Jones should be able to speak and have, like, he was against Alex getting kicked off all this stuff. | ||
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Oh, no, no, no. | |
| He's still allowed to speak. | ||
| No, but it's super crazy. | ||
| Because Alex spends so much of his time talking about how Bill Maher sucks and he's the voice of the left. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's like, Bill Maher's out there saying that humans should die off so there's less traffic. | ||
| He speaks for the left. | ||
| Now Bill Maher's coming out and being like, Alex Jones shouldn't have been kicked off stuff. | ||
| What do you do with that, Alex? | ||
| Ignore it. | ||
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Nothing. | |
| Pretend it didn't happen. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I've not heard him say anything about that. | ||
| Surprise. | ||
| But, like I said, I took this from the podcast, but I did find the episode on YouTube also. | ||
| 29 views! | ||
| Suck it! | ||
| Suck it! | ||
| Two of them were me. | ||
| Two of them were yours. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So that's my roundup of stuff. | ||
| That's fewer views than a five-minute clip that I did six years ago has. | ||
| So there you go. | ||
| I think we have some ideas about what should be done with these websites. | ||
| Burn to the ground. | ||
| It's a little bit of a middle thing for me. | ||
| There's a complexity to it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I never expected Alex to say something like this, though. | ||
| We must stop this now. | ||
| By Congress not having any control over the Internet, they have removed net neutrality. | ||
| Oh my god, you're so fucking stupid. | ||
| But what that was was bringing in regulations so these companies could censor whoever they wanted to have liability protection. | ||
| Oh my god, you're so fucking stupid. | ||
| But then they didn't put anything in its place, so then it became even more of a free-for-all. | ||
| Oh my god, you're so fucking stupid! | ||
| At the end there when he's saying free-for-all, he was struggling so hard not to advocate for regulation. | ||
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Exactly! | |
| He's like, they got rid of the regulations that I didn't want, but they didn't replace them with regulations I did want. | ||
| It's crazy! | ||
| Yeah, and then I think at the beginning there, he's really tipping his hand in a very weird way, that the Congress should control the internet. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Weird. | ||
| So fucking stupid. | ||
| So fucking stupid. | ||
| It's bizarre. | ||
| It's... | ||
| It's bafflingly confusing. | ||
| It's exactly what I was in. | ||
| I was in New Hampshire and I heard like four different people say, hey, you know, we don't have any sales tax here. | ||
| And then two sentences later they were like, I'm telling you, man, our roads are garbage. | ||
| And I was like, you don't get it! | ||
| It's one-to-one. | ||
| That's how it works! | ||
| Oh, we don't have any sales tax, but our income tax is through the roof. | ||
| Yeah, what are you guys fucking doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's kind of in a weird place, but it's nothing new for us or anything really interesting to hear him be stupid or advocate for something that doesn't make sense. | ||
| But it is special to hear something like this. | ||
| Put your mic down. | ||
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Let's talk tough. | |
| Let's talk comfort. | ||
| Let's talk about down-home value made in the USA blue jeans like you wore as a kid. | ||
| Remember, there's a place down in Tennessee where they make blue diamonds. | ||
| Blue diamond gusset jeans They sew pride in every stitch Guarantee you love the way they fit Blue diamond gusset in the crotch Where you need it most Blue diamond gussets got it Hell yeah. | ||
| Hell yes. | ||
| Diamond Gusset is back. | ||
| It's back. | ||
| So here is this. | ||
| First of all, Jordan, it's so great to hear those songs again. | ||
| Also, there's another Diamond Gusset commercial that comes on, and it's the president of Diamond Gusset. | ||
| And his name is David Hall, but the way he talks, because there's a little bit of a twang, it sounds like he's like, Hi, I'm David Hogg. | ||
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What? | |
| Diamond Gusset is run by a guy named David Hogg? | ||
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What is going on here? | |
| So, does that mean that while we were listening to the YouTube broadcasts, if you were listening on the radio, you would have still heard GCN commercials? | ||
| Like how CBS has local affiliate commercials, where if you're watching on CBS Chicago or whatever, you'll hear local Chicago commercials. | ||
| But if you're watching in LA, you'll hear that stuff. | ||
| I think that might be the case. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| But it's possible. | ||
| I think that more likely he has had to revert. | ||
| That's what I'm thinking. | ||
| Although your theory is fairly decent. | ||
| I don't know why they would have two streams. | ||
| That's not nice. | ||
| I don't know why they would have two streams, though. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Where I got this from is one of the only places that that audio comes from. | ||
| Right, but if he's not recording it to be released on YouTube now. | ||
| But it is. | ||
| It is released on YouTube, but that's not his primary audience. | ||
| No. | ||
| So if he's not directly streaming to get to the millions... | ||
| Then he's trying to get as much GCN funding as he can. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| So if he amplifies the amount of airtime that the GCN commercials would receive, then I assume he gets a larger cut, maybe? | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| It's an interesting question to ask, though, because there is a decent chance that if you watch the YouTube stream, there wasn't a YouTube stream, but the video that's up on YouTube, that might not have Diamond Gusset commercials. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, yeah, you might be right that this is just what... | ||
| Maybe there's nothing to it. | ||
| That's a bummer. | ||
| You had a conspiracy theory, and then all of a sudden I come back with how the biz works, Dan. | ||
| Well, I'm certain any radio affiliate that he was on, he wasn't getting to play all his commercials during the commercial break. | ||
| Absolutely not, no. | ||
| No, but... | ||
| Because there's still local stations that have to have their own affiliate commercials as well. | ||
| Oh, well. | ||
| Blue diamond gusset jeans. | ||
| They might fit, they might not. | ||
| Anyway, it's still good to hear those commercials. | ||
| It's nice. | ||
| Wonderful. | ||
| But I do think even though it's not just the commercials that make me feel very weird about this episode. | ||
| That is only one piece of it, and I think it fed into a little bit. | ||
| But there's some other stuff. | ||
| You'll see in a minute. | ||
| But in this next clip. | ||
| Alex Jones decries the state of education in America. | ||
| Oh, those motherfuckers. | ||
| But now they've come out of the closet, the America haters. | ||
| If you go to the universities or you've been brought up in the last 30, 40, 50 years in this country, most schools, most government institutions teach America hating, Christian hating, capitalism hating. | ||
| All of which should be... | ||
| They give you a false history. | ||
| You don't learn about the Trojan War, you don't learn about ancient China, or you don't learn about the Revolutionary War. | ||
| You learn about America being racist. | ||
| You learn about America being sexist. | ||
| There's a deeper problem. | ||
| And that is that the Trojan War didn't happen. | ||
| They don't teach the Trojan War. | ||
| That wasn't a real war. | ||
| Like Heinrich Schliemann found the city of Troy and what have you. | ||
| And there is, like, there is Troy was. | ||
| There was a destruction that happened there. | ||
| But it wasn't nearly the city. | ||
| It wasn't Homer. | ||
| No. | ||
| The Homeric tradition of the Trojan War is specifically just an allegory to talk about the rage of Achilles. | ||
| That is really all that is. | ||
| And to get some more mythology going and shit like that. | ||
| That war did not happen. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| If Alex is saying that people should teach classics, sure. | ||
| But I don't think that's what he's talking about. | ||
| No. | ||
| Why is it that these schools are now pointing out how racist and sexist America is when they could be teaching fictional history? | ||
| Well, he even says that they're teaching fictional history. | ||
| I know, but he wants them to teach a different fictional history. | ||
| Why don't they teach the real fictional history? | ||
| Why don't they talk about how in World War II they had to fight Nazi zombies? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Why don't they talk about the Ark of the Covenant that Indy found? | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| Why don't they talk about Jason Ten? | ||
| He was in space. | ||
| I bet he even has a warped view of the fake version of the Trojan War. | ||
| Because I bet he just gets that from movies, too. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| So I'd love to talk to him about it sometime. | ||
| I think all he knows is that Brad Pitt was pissed. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| He was mad. | ||
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Sing Muse of the Rage of Achilles. | |
| Anyway. | ||
| And how beautiful his hair is. | ||
| You know what's real fun about that story when you really get down to it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The only reason that Achilles decided not to fight is because he had conquered a bunch of people and had stolen some women. | ||
| And then the king came in and took the woman he had enslaved. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And he's like, fuck this! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| I don't get to rape this woman anymore! | ||
| I'm out! | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Look, I am against all the elements. | ||
| I'm against all the elements of this, but that is a reasonable position to take. | ||
| At the end of the day, you have to think of it as of their time. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Much like Philip K. Day. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| So, on this episode, I would say a large portion of it is dedicated to Alex being really mad about Cuomo coming out and saying America was never great and we won't be great unless we deal with systemic problems of sexism and stereotypes and stuff like that. | ||
| It was a stupid, poorly worded comment. | ||
| I think Cynthia Nixon had the best response to it. | ||
| It was like... | ||
| You have just tried to sound like a – you tried to sound like what you think progressives sound like and you failed miserably. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Which I think that is a great, like, boom in your face. | ||
| It's amazing when you see these politicians who haven't had to run for their office for, like, four or five elections. | ||
| All of a sudden, like, oh, I'll just, you know, dust off the old skills. | ||
| I won an election a while back. | ||
| Hey, everybody! | ||
| You guys feel like America should suck a dick all the time, right? | ||
| We're progressives! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| What? | ||
| No, I'm alone? | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| In the wrestling world, that's what's called ring rust. | ||
| He is sloppy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Not good. | |
| And if you actually listen to that clip, what's really interesting is he says these comments and the audience is like, whoa! | ||
| They are not cheering him on or anything. | ||
| There's like a what? | ||
| Kind of response to it. | ||
| But later, Alex will present it as everyone's like, yeah! | ||
| They love it. | ||
| That's not what that tape is. | ||
| But he struggles with this idea really superficially. | ||
| And here's the beginning of that. | ||
| Well, I think the worst part is this. | ||
| You could say America wasn't great if you had a chip on your shoulder and a twisted view and didn't understand the real complexities. | ||
| You could say if you were ignorant that America was never great. | ||
| I don't agree with that. | ||
| It's obviously stupid and doesn't know history. | ||
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Obviously. | |
| Measure America up. | ||
| All the foreign historians, Japanese, French, German, Russian, Mexican, Chilean, they all said. | ||
| Chilean? | ||
| Just incredible. | ||
| Romantic background. | ||
| The buildings, the construction, the invention. | ||
| Nobody can build a Panama Canal. | ||
| Two countries failed. | ||
| We built it. | ||
| Then gave it to the Chi-Coms. | ||
| We go in, fight countries, turn them back over to them. | ||
| Nobody else does that. | ||
| But you can sit there and argue, okay, we were never great, if you're ignorant. | ||
| So you were talking over it a tiny bit, but did you hear him say, like, we go in, we fight all these wars, and then we give the countries back to people? | ||
| No one does that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Alex, most of your career is based on complaining about foreign wars. | |
| Yeah, but we get them back. | ||
| Your favorite politician is only relevant because of his anti-interventionist and pro-weed stances, despite the fact that he's a flaming racist and has been for decades. | ||
| But that's his whole thing is anti-interventionism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Alex hates foreign wars, so now the idea, and even just a couple years ago, he would be But now he's like, America is so great and our history is so wonderful. | |
| Because we go and solve problems elsewhere and then give the country back. | ||
| No one does that. | ||
| I mean, if Chilean historians agree that America's great, how can you disagree? | ||
| He's invalidating everything he stands for. | ||
| I know! | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| It's nonsensical. | ||
| Like, he doesn't have to do this. | ||
| There's no reason. | ||
| I don't know what point he's trying to make other than he thinks Cuomo's stupid. | ||
| Which is fine. | ||
| You could make that argument a different way. | ||
| Yeah, you don't have to do this. | ||
| You could just say it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Or you can just boo. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think my reaction to that video is just like, eh. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| It's one of those things that I think Alex doesn't have much he wants to talk about. | ||
| And he thinks he can tee off on this. | ||
| But I think he's... | ||
| I don't... | ||
| He's in the weeds, man. | ||
| Like, in terms of what he's trying to respond to with this. | ||
| Like, his versions of why America is great are that one, the war thing, which is against his principles. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then we built... | ||
| Panama Canal. | ||
| Hooray. | ||
| We didn't do that alone. | ||
| A lot of people died. | ||
| Two countries tried to do it, and then... | ||
| We did it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| By ourselves. | ||
| By ourselves. | ||
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Of course. | |
| And then also, he's like, then they gave it to the Chai Combs. | ||
| That's not at all true. | ||
| And then they're like, what? | ||
| Okay, so we have buildings. | ||
| Other people have buildings. | ||
| I think there's some other... | ||
| Countries that have much more gorgeous buildings, much more impressive buildings. | ||
| Don't you know how amazing the American buildings are? | ||
| They've stood for centuries. | ||
| As we all know, the greatest buildings of history have lasted for thousands of years. | ||
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Oh, no, no, no. | |
| You're thinking of Europe. | ||
| You're thinking of Europe. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Oh, and pyramids. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| But those were the American pyramids. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| The South American, Central American pyramids. | ||
| That wasn't us. | ||
| All right, but they were Americans in spirit. | ||
| The Chilean historians are great! | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And then his other version is inventions. | ||
| And sure, we've invented some stuff. | ||
| But when you look at the history of inventions, America is not in the top five. | ||
| No, I'm going to go with China? | ||
| China. | ||
| India are way up there in terms of inventions that embarrass us. | ||
| Look, the Chinese in... | ||
| They invented whiskey. | ||
| That's all you need to know. | ||
| They invented everything. | ||
| Pretty much everything. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| So that falls flat. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| I think my response to that would be like, fair point about Cuomo, but then boo on everything else you said. | ||
| You're just talking shit. | ||
| This is nonsense. | ||
| And that's not even getting into the nuance of the parts of American history that are terrible. | ||
| We have not been a good country for a lot of the history. | ||
| Well, one thing we didn't invent. | ||
| Slavery. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| See, we didn't invent that. | ||
| That was the Muslims. | ||
| That was... | ||
| It definitely didn't exist before 500 AD, which is... | ||
| That's what Alex would say. | ||
| It was the Muslims. | ||
| So, in this episode, I'll say the one thing I do enjoy. | ||
| Is that Alex says beta cuck about three times. | ||
| Alright, I like that. | ||
| Can we get a supercut? | ||
| No, I didn't. | ||
| The times he says them aren't really worth it for a clip, but he does talk about betas here a little bit, which is nice. | ||
| The land of beta male, Brian Stelter's got. | ||
| But the land of rebels, the land of freedom, the land of success, the land of alpha males, InfoWars is number one. | ||
| We are proud to be rebels. | ||
| We're proud to be hunted. | ||
| We're proud to be attacked. | ||
| I'm honored to be in the crosshairs. | ||
| I swore before God that I would stand against the globalists. | ||
| And as long as God gives me strength and air in my lungs and my big red heart full of light, I'll march on forward, stumbling sometimes, but always with grim determination, climbing the hill, always getting stronger, even as I get weaker, even as I prepare to go into our final launch phase. | ||
| And the enemy is sharpening their knives. | ||
| I enter the arena with love in my heart and light in my eyes. | ||
| Please support us. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| That wasn't bad. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| The ad pivot, I find that far more refreshing. | ||
| That was a genuine, like, please support us, not like, and we got specials coming up. | ||
| That was like, we believe in you. | ||
| Well, there's one thing, there's another trend that I'm seeing here on this episode, and that is that I don't think he's in control of commercial breaks anymore. | ||
| That's not the best example of it. | ||
| I think we have a better one coming up later. | ||
| But he, on this episode that I listened to, was caught off guard by breaks. | ||
| At least six times. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Cut off in the middle of sentences by the break. | ||
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No. | |
| Yeah, to the point where it's like, you have to be working on a different clock than you're usually working on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| At least that's my presumption. | ||
| It doesn't make sense because it's not like he's so full of passion that he's missing breaks. | ||
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No. | |
| Or anything like that. | ||
| He's rusty. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's rusty on the radio. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's that he's not in control anymore. | ||
| Genesis Communications Network is now in control. | ||
| I believe that he ceded that sort of thing back to them, whereas he was in control of it before. | ||
| That's my working theory. | ||
| I'm not 100% sure on it, but it's so glaring the way he ends up, like, not... | ||
| Because he would have... | ||
| You saw the build-up going on there. | ||
| I crawl and I grow stronger even though I'm getting weaker. | ||
| All that. | ||
| That's him leading up to an ad pivot. | ||
| And he gets caught off guard by the break to the point where all he can say is, please support us. | ||
| Which you think sounds sincere. | ||
| I think sounds like... | ||
| Fuck, I got a second left. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| And he can't skip a break anymore. | ||
| No, he can't. | ||
| So I believe that he's lost some control of his own show. | ||
| That's my working theory. | ||
| God, he's falling apart. | ||
| Yep, and I think the diamond gusset thing is a nice thing for us to see here in this, in that I think that we are seeing somewhat of an unwilling reversion to the past. | ||
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Yeah, so he's like... | |
| This is on the podcast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he's just releasing the live radio cut. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You'd think that he would have figured out that you can edit your own ads into a podcast. | ||
| You would think that. | ||
| And that is actually part of my consideration of why I wonder about the ads. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| That's part of why I'm... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what to think about that. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex says something that I would say is like... | ||
| Demonstrably false? | ||
| No, it's true. | ||
| I don't think it's true, but it's one of those things you probably just shouldn't say on air, I think. | ||
| All right, let me take some time out here to just explain something to listeners who've been listening a long time. | ||
| I tend to repeat a lot of things, even though I have hundreds of riveting videos and articles that are all incredibly important. | ||
| And if I was just trying to entertain people... | ||
| I could make the show a lot more entertaining. | ||
| In fact, I ought to one day a week call it entertainment news. | ||
| And by that, it'll be real news. | ||
| But the stuff that's, I think, most interesting, like people shooting home intruders and a guy trying to acid attack people getting beat up by vigilantes and, you know, just every five minutes some riveting, incredible stuff. | ||
| I could do that all day. | ||
| Is that... | ||
| That's entertainment news. | ||
| Is that entertainment news? | ||
| No, I think Extra is entertainment news. | ||
| I think Mark McGrath talking about people's clothes. | ||
| That's entertainment news. | ||
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I don't think someone shooting a home intruder. | |
| Oh, that's riveting stuff. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah, that is a psychopath. | ||
| That's a crazy, crazy person. | ||
| That's somebody who's just like, hey, let's play some ISIS beheading videos and do wacky sound effects over it. | ||
| It's like that guy. | ||
| That would be entertaining, though. | ||
| It's like someone saying that at a party. | ||
| Like, that's what I'm feeling from Alex, is the guy who's like, let's watch a beheading video. | ||
| Go fuck, get out of my party. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Get out. | ||
| Yeah, wow. | ||
| But then the other part that I think is really fun is Alex being like, if I wanted to make this show entertaining, I could. | ||
| It's like, alright, buddy. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
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Cool. | |
| Go for it. | ||
| I love that. | ||
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You know what? | |
| I think we would all like that. | ||
| My goal is not to entertain, also not to inform. | ||
| I don't know what I'm doing. | ||
| Trojan War was real. | ||
| Go to bed. | ||
| Go to bed. | ||
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I like that that's become our unofficial catchphrase now. | |
| Yeah, I like it. | ||
| I enjoy it. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex gets to a big narrative that he has throughout this episode. | ||
| It's a little bit troubling, as much as that it is based on a real story. | ||
| Alex does a terrible job covering it, and I will do my best to pick up the pieces after he's done with this. | ||
| But just like the illegal alien that shot Kate Steinle in the back and they virtually singled to San Francisco and said, you're allowed to shoot her in the back. | ||
| She's allowed to die in her father's arms. | ||
| Just real quick, in case people haven't heard the episode where we talked about that, the guy's gun misfired, it ricocheted off the ground and shot her, and he was not charged with murder because it was an accident. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Once again, the issue was the gun, not the person. | ||
| Guns are bad. | ||
| And the issue for Alex is that he was Mexican and she was a white person. | ||
| If he was a white guy, he would go in detail with the defense of him. | ||
| He wouldn't talk about it. | ||
| He wouldn't talk about it? | ||
| I think he probably wouldn't talk about it. | ||
| He'd probably leave it alone. | ||
| He's only trying to score points in fear of immigrants. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's all he's doing. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You go free. | ||
| They virtue signal the judge said, no, it's racist. | ||
| And Muslim, if you'd have been white, you wouldn't get in trouble. | ||
| An underground giant training base with the kids telling police we're being trained to shoot up schools and people that have disappeared from different states being held there and a three-year-old found dead on the property in underground tunnels who died in a ritual of torturing him, they're now reporting, to bring forth the prophet Jesus and make him be reborn. | ||
| Don't worry, the local liberal government Has brought in tens of thousands of tons of sand and is using bulldozers to cover the compound. | ||
| And they said, if you were white, you would not be in jail if a dead three-year-old reportedly killed in a ritual to make him turn into Jesus. | ||
| And they're now releasing him. | ||
| On. | ||
| $2,000 bond. | ||
| $20,000 means you've got to pay $2,000, but the judge had a waiver. | ||
| No money paid. | ||
| Cash bond is evil. | ||
| Do you hear what I'm saying, ladies and gentlemen? | ||
| I hear you. | ||
| So just to respond to one of the points before we get into sort of the meat of this, I would say, the idea that they're covering it up with sand and whatever, it's someone else's property that this camp was on. | ||
| It's their choice. | ||
| And they've processed the crime scene by now. | ||
| This has been going on since the beginning of August. | ||
| They've done everything that they need to do with the physical location. | ||
| It's not like there's anything there that they've missed. | ||
| So the idea is not that they're not whitewashing something or covering it. | ||
| It's this guy's property. | ||
| It's someone else's property. | ||
| Breaking news, man covers up gopher holes. | ||
| So this is an issue where there was a group of Muslim folk who had a compound in New Mexico that was allegedly being used where this guy was teaching kids how to shoot weapons. | ||
| And there was a kid there who died, and apparently there were rituals that were being done because they thought he would become the next Jesus Christ. | ||
| That'd be fun if they were right. | ||
| So I'm going to read to you from the CNN article to give you a little bit of a context of what this story is about, and then we're going to talk a little bit more about the important pieces of it. | ||
| So, quote from the CNN article. | ||
| The family fled Georgia for a compound in New Mexico where they trained their children in firearms use, according to testimony. | ||
| A child died at his father's hand during a religious ritual intended to expel religious demons from his body. | ||
| Eleven more malnourished children were later found on the property. | ||
| The family believed that once the demons were gone, the boy would return as Jesus four months later and tell his family which institutions to get rid of, a witness said. | ||
| Those who did not believe their message would be killed or detained until they believed, a teenager on the compound said... | ||
| According to an FBI agent. | ||
| There's no evidence that they killed anybody else. | ||
| But all of them are charged with 11 counts of child abuse. | ||
| And it's being dealt with as a very serious issue. | ||
| That's interesting because that's exactly what happened with my parents' cult. | ||
| And it was a Christian cult. | ||
| Now hold on to that thought because we'll get to it. | ||
| We'll circle all the way back to that. | ||
| So they were being labeled as a militant, violent Islamist group or Muslim group. | ||
| And quote, early on the local sheriff called the suspects extremist of the Muslim belief. | ||
| He later said that his statement was based on their appearance and he did not want to imply violence. | ||
| So, the very idea, the kernel of where that came from, is from physical prejudice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| From a New Mexican? | ||
| Now, there are children who are being... | ||
| Mistreated there, absolutely. | ||
| There were children who were reported missing in other states who were there, but it's not clear whether it was parental kidnapping or something along those lines. | ||
| There's a little bit of murkiness to that, which I don't care to unpack entirely, because I think there's a bigger issue at hand. | ||
| So from the judge, quote... | ||
| The state alleges that there was a big plan afoot, but the state is not shown to my satisfaction by clear and convincing evidence what in fact that plan was, Judge Sarah Backus said. | ||
| The state wants me to make a leap, and it's a large leap, and that would be to hold people in jail without bond based on, again, troubling facts, but I didn't hear any co-8 plan that was being alleged by the state. | ||
| So this is in response to, like, her ruling is, I don't... | ||
| See evidence of the assertions that are being made. | ||
| Namely, that they were training kids to be warriors of some sort. | ||
| Namely, one of the accusations of the prosecution was they were teaching them to do school shootings. | ||
| And that was why they would be a danger to the rest of the public. | ||
| What? | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're going to have to have some actual evidence of that. | ||
| It's almost like the burden of proof is on the government. | ||
| Well, it is. | ||
| And thankfully, I believe that this judge was clearly saying that you have not presented proof of these things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And therefore, I'm not sure that it would be appropriate of me, based on troubling facts, to treat this as anything other than a child abuse case. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So... | ||
| Alex is entirely ranting just about the statements that were made by the defense attorneys, whose job it is to defend their clients. | ||
| Well, we shouldn't have those. | ||
| They said things like, quote, if these were white people of a Christian faith who owned guns, that's not a big deal because there's a Second Amendment right to own firearms in this country. | ||
| If these were white Christians, faith healing is of no consequence because we have freedom of religion in this country. | ||
| But they look different and worship differently from the rest of us, Thomas Clark said Monday. | ||
| So, the argument that Alex is responding to and claiming that the liberal government is making and that, oh, look, they're just saying that if you were white, you would be in trouble, you wouldn't, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Trying to bring all that stuff in are statements that are being made by the defense attorneys whose job it is to come up with a defense. | ||
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| And who are correct. | ||
| I think that there's something to it. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| Three-year-old Abdul Ghani Wahaj died at the compound, and his death is absolutely the result of a very least criminal negligence. | ||
| Quote, Ooh, that's a fun name. | ||
| Siraj Wahaj said he wanted to stop giving his son medication and perform rituals to, quote, cast demonic spirits out of his son's body. | ||
| This is not really too far off from Alex's distrust of psychiatric medication, his demonization of vaccines, and his belief in literal demons. | ||
| These are people who largely just took Alex Jones' beliefs and put them into action. | ||
| Now, why that's important is because, oftentimes... | ||
| A dead kid is the result of the things Alex Jones believes in, in terms of don't trust medicine and that sort of thing. | ||
| Now back to your point. | ||
| From the Washington Post. | ||
| Nearly one-third of the roughly 600 grave sites in Peaceful Valley Cemetery belong to a child, advocates say. | ||
| Uh, what? | ||
| Spotty records make it difficult to identify how and why the children died before their burial at the graveyard used by the followers of Christ, a splinter sect that practices faith healing and believes that death and illness are the will of God. | ||
| Do what now? | ||
| But coroner and autopsy reports gathered by advocates and former church members' childhood memories tell a story of children needlessly dying from lack of medical care. | ||
| Bruce Wingate, founder of Protect Idaho Kids Foundation, estimates that three to four children will die this year in Idaho alone if lawmakers fail to lift the state's faith healing exemptions. | ||
| They often homeschool children and go without birth certificates, making efforts to track faith-healing deaths difficult, she said. | ||
| The culture and rituals of the church compound the problem, said Canyon County Sheriff Kieran Donahue. | ||
| He said followers have not always alerted authorities after a death. | ||
| Quote, some people look at the Bible as applicable law, Jim Jones, former Idaho Supreme Court Chief Justice said of state lawmakers. | ||
| Quote, it is also the independence of Western culture. | ||
| They don't like government telling them what to do, she said. | ||
| There is this feeling that parental rights are absolute and religious freedom rights are absolute. | ||
| According to the National Institutes of Health and the journal Pediatrics, quote, between 1975 and 1995, 172 children died following faith healing, 140 of them from easily curable or treatable medical conditions. | ||
| In one case, a two-year-old girl choked on a banana and showed signs of life for an hour before dying while her parents and other adults simply prayed. | ||
| So the issue is that this is something that happens with the white folk quite a bit. | ||
| That's not to say that it's not a real issue, and I think that these people did some really fucked up stuff. | ||
| But to paint it as some sort of like a terrorist training ground, or to say that it has anything to do with the Islamic faith that they followed, is cockamamie bullshit. | ||
| And even you said, as we were starting it, that in your community that you grew up in... | ||
| That this was something that would happen. | ||
| I don't know if deaths are... | ||
| Oh, you said there was. | ||
| Yeah, no, there was. | ||
| That's why the cult broke up, is because they killed a kid. | ||
| Which, by the way, I really want people to get this taken care of. | ||
| They did not watch a kid die. | ||
| They did not do anything other than murder a child. | ||
| They murdered that child. | ||
| They killed him. | ||
| This is where we get back to the Mies Institute and the libertarian ideology. | ||
| Because they don't believe that there is an affirmative obligation that you have to give your children health care. | ||
| So that means that there can't be a negative obligation or a negative consequence when you don't. | ||
| Which is stupid. | ||
| It's such a twisted idea that you would rather watch your child die than ever, ever accept medicine. | ||
| It's God's will. | ||
| Insane to me. | ||
| You're weak if you accept medicine. | ||
| Insane to me. | ||
| Also, it doesn't take medicine to get a banana out of someone's throat. | ||
| I would say that I would rather... | ||
| Well, the Heimlich maneuver is against God's will. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He doesn't like maneuvers. | ||
| He hates maneuvers. | ||
| Hates anything that has to do with parking. | ||
| The Valhalla? | ||
| No. | ||
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Shit. | |
| What's the one where you yawn or... | ||
| The Val Salva maneuver where you pop your ears. | ||
| I would rather hang out with someone who's killed upwards of two people than someone who sat around and watched a two-year-old girl choke on a banana and do nothing. | ||
| I think I would be cool with the murderer. | ||
| Yeah, because at least I did it. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, I've walked behind people walking too slow and covering up the entire sidewalk. | ||
| I've wanted to kill before. | ||
| You are fine. | ||
| I mean, I'd still think he was a fucked up person, but I can't imagine the level of fucked up you have to be to see a child who is, like, struggling for an hour, choking on something that you could easily dislodge from their throat, and you're just like, well, if they die, they die. | ||
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And then they just move on. | |
| It's un-understandably, like... | ||
| Evil. | ||
| So, anyway, I don't want to go too deep into this. | ||
| And also, I should say that this is still developing to a certain extent with the court and what have you. | ||
| And the reason that they let them off was because they don't pose a threat to society. | ||
| They pose a threat to each other. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| But send them out. | ||
| Maybe that'll solve all of our problems. | ||
| We won't even have to process them as they murder each other. | ||
| So Alex is mad about this idea that the judge let them go. | ||
| But the reason is because, as she very clearly said in the quote that we read there from the article, the state did not do a good enough job of proving their case that they are a danger, and therefore she must let them go. | ||
| So, Alex, if you believe in the rule of law, you have to believe in that. | ||
| But unfortunately, you have different standards for white and brown people. | ||
| You are only mad about this because they're Muslims. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So, enjoy. | ||
| Which is inexplicably the thing he brings up. | ||
| He's like, oh, and then it's like, oh, this wouldn't happen if it was a white family. | ||
| And you're like, well, you wouldn't. | ||
| You wouldn't be talking about it if it was a white family. | ||
| You've got plenty of options to talk about white families homeschooling their kids, teaching them how to shoot guns, and then watching them die. | ||
| You've got so many stories of this. | ||
| This is a regular occurrence in the white community, and you never bring it up. | ||
| My argument to that is it's very explicable. | ||
| You said it's inexplicable. | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, and also just from... | ||
| Oh, no, that's... | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| Just from June of this year, I'll let you read a little bit of this article. | ||
| Quote... | ||
| The parents of a baby girl who died because she didn't receive medical attention in favor of faith healing took a plea deal on Monday. | ||
| Travis and Sarah Mitchell both pleaded guilty to criminal negligent homicide and criminal mistreatment according to John Foote, District Attorney for Clackamas County. | ||
| So, I mean, there's a nice white couple who did exactly the same thing. | ||
| I mean, they're going to jail. | ||
| I don't like you describing them as a nice white couple. | ||
| I'm saying it facetiously. | ||
| The Alex Jones school of nice white people. | ||
| So, that's a mess. | ||
| But congratulations, Alex. | ||
| Unreal. | ||
| Of all the things that I think are hearkening back to his past self here, we still get to keep that hatred of Muslims. | ||
| Because that's become so... | ||
| Key to him. | ||
| What do we got to do to teach people that religion is a disease? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think... | ||
| Unfortunately... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But I know that this wouldn't help. | ||
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So... | |
| Alex is still... | ||
| Now he's back on Cuomo. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Back on home turf, so he thinks. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| I'll tell you what. | ||
| I'll tell you what. | ||
| This is disgusting. | ||
| It's just real bad. | ||
| We will reach greatness when discrimination and stereotyping against women 51% of our population is gone. | ||
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Is that really what he sounds like? | |
| That is a total psychological warfare op to turn women against community and break society. | ||
| I noticed he does the NPR thing. | ||
| Welcome to Madonna. | ||
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May I help you? | |
| Because they're in a plant. | ||
| I am Governor Cuomo. | ||
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You get places because of me. | |
| America never great. | ||
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It never gonna be great ever again. | |
| So that's a commercial break there. | ||
| He got completely caught off guard by that commercial break. | ||
| He was lost in that. | ||
| Too close to your Bernie Sanders, if I could be honest. | ||
| A little too close. | ||
| It was Bernie Sanders, and yet somehow even more offensive to mentally handicapped people. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because it was Bernie Sanders played on like three-quarter speed. | ||
| Yeah, it was like when you slow down the chipmunks too far. | ||
| Also, bro, that is not what NPR sounds like. | ||
| He's like, he's doing that NPR. | ||
| So that's bad. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| That's horrific. | ||
| Not nearly as bad as what happens when he comes back from break. | ||
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There is a war on for your mind. | |
| America was never great. | ||
| And it will never be great either. | ||
| I like, first, this goes on for a while, but I love to imagine that he was doing that through the entire break. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Just going up to Rob Dube. | ||
| I like to imagine that he had at least one stop where he's like, so is that a good impression? | ||
| Should I call Lorne? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have to do three characters for him. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Bernie? | ||
| Cuomo? | ||
| And then I assume Elizabeth Warren. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yay! | ||
| We're not a cult of psycho scum. | ||
| We're not weirdos. | ||
| We're not dangerous. | ||
| We love you, Cuomo. | ||
| If you are a Christian... | ||
| So that's also where he's pretending that the audience was like, yeah, we love it. | ||
| You're doing great. | ||
| And in reality, they were not all that into it. | ||
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If you are a pro-liber or pro-gun, get out of my state. | |
| Those are real quotes from two years ago. | ||
| Bernie Sanders. | ||
| It's up on InfoWars.com. | ||
| There's a new article out. | ||
| America now believes in socialism. | ||
| Too close. | ||
| We are going to do it. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| It is going to be good. | ||
| I never worked a day in my life. | ||
| I did not have a job until I was 40 years old. | ||
| What about a government job? | ||
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I honeymooned in the Soviet Union where we could have a way with Christians. | |
| Are we sure this isn't his Ruth Bader Ginsburg impression? | ||
| You have to understand, when you're as ugly and stupid as I am, all you want to do is screw people over! | ||
| And I will do it! | ||
| Don't you worry about that! | ||
| I mean, who sounds like they've had a bigger lobotomy? | ||
| Cuomo? | ||
| Or you? | ||
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Sanders. | |
| I mean, let's play this one more time. | ||
| America has never died. | ||
| Is he playing it? | ||
| No. | ||
| But hold on. | ||
| You have to pay close attention to what he says in this character. | ||
| That's great. | ||
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It's more like, America never died great. | |
| And America's never going to be great, because we're mean to the women. | ||
| We put them in burkas, we chop off their genitals, we sell them into sex slavery, they have the highest rate of college education, they live longer than anybody else, and they're with the immigest women you do what I tell you. | ||
| Alpha males are bad, unless it's me. | ||
| In the middle of the character... | ||
| By the way, it goes on even longer. | ||
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Wait, wait. | |
| Why is it mistreating women for them to have the highest rate of education? | ||
| Because he's not good at making points and juxtaposing things, so within the same character voice that he's supposing is this stupid guy, he brings in his narratives about why Muslims are bad to women, and then brings into why America is good to women in terms of, you have a lot of them to graduate college. | ||
| But it doesn't work in terms of that character. | ||
| The character has to either do all one or all the other. | ||
| You can't have it both ways. | ||
| Because if it's all the things that America is great about for women, then it's lampooning, it's parody. | ||
| But if it's all the things that Muslims do that are bad in Alex's conception, then it's a caricature. | ||
| But he's trying to mix both of them, and it's very clunky. | ||
| Well, he, though, believes that colleges are there to brainwash women. | ||
| So in his twisted worldview, that does make sense. | ||
| It does, but that's... | ||
| That's an interesting thing to unpack. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot going on there. | ||
| Because he does credit, like, countries for having, like, a lot of women who go to college as a positive thing. | ||
| Right, but they're elsewhere. | ||
| They're elsewhere. | ||
| He does say that it's bad to go to college. | ||
| He's fucking stupid. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of, like, you scratch right below the surface and none of this makes sense. | ||
| And somehow this is a... | ||
| I don't know who exactly that voice is offensive to other than, like... | ||
| Eight or nine different groups. | ||
| Well, two specific people. | ||
| Cuomo, Sanders. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Ruth Bader Ginsburg, of course. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm going to go with... | ||
| Anthony Otamanek. | ||
| Anybody who can do good impressions. | ||
| James Adomian, probably not thrilled with that either. | ||
| Also, just, you know, any... | ||
| Anybody. | ||
| Anybody. | ||
| Anybody that doesn't speak English the way he does. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say. | ||
| There's a little bit of that. | ||
| New Yorkers. | ||
| You can throw New Yorkers. | ||
| Any immigrant. | ||
| Mentally handicapped, of course. | ||
| All of that is wrapped up in who should be... | ||
| And me. | ||
| I'm offended by it. | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| But also, I'm offended in the same way that Tamnick should be. | ||
| Because you do a great Bernie. | ||
| As good as else. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex lies a whole bunch about things that are going on in the UK, and then I will explain on the other end why it's a lot of bullshit. | ||
| UK's criminal prosecutions at record low despite crime near all-time high. | ||
| That's an article up on Infowars.com, London Telegraph. | ||
| Prosecutors have reached an all-time low despite crime soaring in a new record. | ||
| High official government figures reveal. | ||
| The number of people dealt with by criminal justice system in England and Wales fell 7% in the last year, while record crime shot up 11% to 5.5 million, mainly acid attacks and stabbings. | ||
| We'll get back to the acid attacks and stabbings here in a second, but there's some pretty, just really reasonable ways you can get around this. | ||
| One of them is that there are repeat offenders and stuff like that, people who commit multiple crimes, and that's something you should factor in there. | ||
| They're dealing with less people and there are more crimes. | ||
| That's one way you can do with that. | ||
| Also, in the last couple of years in the United Kingdom, they've instituted a lot of new recording policies for the police, and that has led to quite a rise in reported crimes that were going unreal. | ||
| Well, how many times have we seen in the past of, let's say, a sex worker gets murdered and they just... | ||
| I've seen the wire Police forces in different cities had to now keep record of their stats. | ||
| Some standardization. | ||
| If the stats went up too high, then you had to do this whole thing. | ||
| And rather than improve, they just were like, well, let's cheat the stats. | ||
| That makes more sense. | ||
| You end up doing quota busting. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So I looked into this because I was very interested. | ||
| The acid attack stuff is such... | ||
| A common narrative to spread fear about Islam. | ||
| It's consistent through Alex Jones, Tommy Robinson, all of these people. | ||
| They always talk about acid attacks. | ||
| It's so fucking regular with them. | ||
| And I'd never really done too much looking into it. | ||
| I always just assumed that they're over-inflating things and like, there's not that many acid attacks. | ||
| But it turns out there are a bunch. | ||
| But... | ||
| From the BBC. | ||
| There's a common understanding of acid attacks in the UK that goes something like this. | ||
| The attacker is male, the victim female. | ||
| Both are South Asian. | ||
| And I should point out here, I looked into official UK statistic keeping. | ||
| South Asian and Asian are categories that include Middle Eastern. | ||
| Right. | ||
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They don't have a separate category for Middle Eastern. | |
| They just have black, which includes African and Caribbean, white, which includes all the sort of European ethnicities, Asian and mixed. | ||
| Those are the categories that they have in terms of official record keeping. | ||
| Weird. | ||
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That's a conversation that needs to be had, but not right now. | |
| I agree. | ||
| I wasn't charmed by the fact that those were the categories. | ||
| That's a weird system. | ||
| But I don't run the UK police system. | ||
| Is that part of the metric system? | ||
| No, I don't think it is. | ||
| It's a base 10 and a base 4 on ethnicity? | ||
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No. | |
| So, there's a common understanding of acid attacks in the UK that goes like that. | ||
| Attackers male, victim female. | ||
| Both are South Asian, and the violence has something to do with the man's so-called honor. | ||
| Statistics released by London's Metropolitan Police to the BBC provide a breakdown of every recorded acid attack over a 15-year period by age, gender, ethnicity, borough, hate crime, and outcome. | ||
| This is the fullest picture yet of the Capitol's suspects and victims. | ||
| Here are the stats that it showed. | ||
| The suspect was male 74% of the time, and the victim was male 67% of the time, with only one attack ever being related to the idea of honor. | ||
| Quote, in many regions of the world, most attacks relate to gender violence, said Joff Shah, the executive director of Acid Survivors Trust International. | ||
| Quote, these attacks are often linked to rejected sexual advances or marriage proposals. | ||
| However, this does not appear to be the case in the United Kingdom. | ||
| Acid attacks are on the rise in the UK, though, so what's causing it? | ||
| Quote, this is likely to be related to a rise in moped gangs, according to Dr. Simon Harding, associate professor in criminology at the University of West London. | ||
| He goes on to say, quote, we've had acid throwing in this country for over 200 years, and there's been a new development of it, said Dr. Harding, but it's not new, and it's not imported. | ||
| So it's just a phenomenon that apparently is a part of London crime or English crime that is sort of foreign to our ideas as something that's very common to Americans. | ||
| So it's like the idea of almost like the idea of a tipping point. | ||
| Like at a certain point it becomes a thing that... | ||
| Somebody has done and then it becomes an option for so many other people to then take. | ||
| It's a trend. | ||
| It's like a fad. | ||
| For 200 years, Fad? | ||
| Well, I mean, like, the recent uptick is my point there. | ||
| Yeah, perhaps, but I don't think that, from the data I was able to find, the uptick is not that large. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Pretty overblown. | ||
| But the number of people who end up getting acid thrown at them is not nothing. | ||
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That's, what? | |
| It's weird. | ||
| What are you doing throwing acid at people? | ||
| I know I'm not the one to judge since my country shoots everybody all the time. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But come on, acid? | ||
| That sounds lazy. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| But also, like you see here, the victim being male 67% of the time is pretty counter to the narrative that Alex... | ||
| It's a Muslim honor situation. | ||
| Which is such a huge part of their propaganda against Muslims. | ||
| And the fact that it's not a uniquely, as the British would categorize it, Asian crime. | ||
| It should give some pause and make you think. | ||
| There's a different story that you could tell here that's interesting. | ||
| Let's get acid away from people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's not so much like the Muslims are running amok and dumping acid on everybody. | ||
| Which is what Alex would want you to think because that makes them into a Batman villain. | ||
| I can't think... | ||
| I can't visualize this any other way now than like a bunch of guys riding on mopeds with a pot that's filled with acid and then they toss it. | ||
| Either that or now I see a squirt bottle. | ||
| You know, like a ketchup dispenser. | ||
| Oh, I thought you meant like a super soaker. | ||
| Yeah, some maybe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How strong are super... | ||
| Supersoakers. | ||
| That's the first question we need to answer. | ||
| Reinforced supersoakers. | ||
| I think that's a more whimsical, fun version of what's probably a horrible reality. | ||
| No, I'm sure it's true. | ||
| I just don't. | ||
| It's dudes. | ||
| Let's distill this once more back down. | ||
| No, no. 74% dudes are the suspects. | ||
| That's still a solid dude amount. | ||
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| It's dudes. | ||
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Not entirely, but considerably dudes. | |
| Three-quarters dudes is too many dudes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So now about stabbings. | ||
| This is another thing that Alex always brings up because that's his way of... | ||
| Why do you need gun control? | ||
| People are going to find a way to stab each other. | ||
| Now, stabbing statistics in the UK include knives, broken bottles, sharp objects. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I should note that... | ||
| The HBO series Sharp Objects as well. | ||
| And if you've killed anyone with a DVD of Peaky Blinders, then that's in there too. | ||
| DVD, Dan. | ||
| Blu-ray. | ||
| So, according to official data from the UK Parliament, quote, 2017 saw an increase of knife-related assaults, but to put things in context, the 2017 number is only 6% higher than the level seen in 2010 to 2011. | ||
| further the rise from 2015 to 2017 is quote directly related with improvements police made in recording practices yeah so that's Yeah. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if you get to the root of it and you look for explanations, what you find is that that's why there are more of them. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And the fact that, you know, six... | |
| Seven years ago is almost the same as now. | ||
| There was a little bit of a dip and then it came back up. | ||
| But if you're going to blame Muslims for all of this violence like they are so wont to do, then you have to explain why was it that high in 2011. | ||
| Is it possible that there were deficiencies in reporting that happened over the last couple of years? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We get back to maybe this is a demagogue spreading propaganda. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| And also, interestingly, there were 215 knife-related homicides in the UK during the year 2016 to 2017. | ||
| How many gun deaths were there in the United States? | ||
| More than that. | ||
| 217? | ||
| But that number, the 215 knife-related homicides in that year, Alex tries to present this as like there's a giant upswing in knife... | ||
| Murder. | ||
| So we're talking 6%, so that's 12. There were 12 more... | ||
| Well, no, no, no, no. | ||
| That's just entire knife violence is the 6% from 2011 to 2017. | ||
| Homicides is like 4. Well, so there's 215 from 2016 to 2017. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's only 2 more than there was from 2015 to 2016. | ||
| There isn't really a substantive increase in these crimes. | ||
| There's only things that you can sort of cheat statistics and come up with your own explanations for. | ||
| Well, you give a percentage, and that is way, way more intimidating than the actual number. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, it's something like all knife attacks and assaults, they're up like 20%. | ||
| But again, a lot of that can be attributed to specific improvements that they've made to recording practices. | ||
| Some of that can be taken away from that. | ||
| Some of that can just be considered perhaps incidental. | ||
| There's a certain amount of it that's statistically irrelevant. | ||
| So you take away some of that percent. | ||
| And then you take into account that it's not just Muslims that are stabbing people. | ||
| It's generally speaking... | ||
| Dudes. | ||
| Dudes. | ||
| And then also, statistically, we have the same issues here. | ||
| The stats that you can get about offenders are generally... | ||
| Who got arrested for things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And you see a marked higher incident of black people being arrested. | ||
| So, you know, it's kind of tough to figure out what the actual story here is. | ||
| But from all the statistics that are available, it's not as big of a... | ||
| Wave of knives all over England. | ||
| Here's another issue. | ||
| A wave of knives and acid. | ||
| That's all propaganda and nonsense. | ||
| Oh shit, once they find a way to make knives out of acid, we're fucked. | ||
| Here's another telling point. | ||
| When you use 6% in America, like say there's a 6% rise in gun violence in America, that means there's, what, 4,000 more incidents? | ||
| Right. | ||
| In England, as you pointed out, a 2% rise is two dudes. | ||
| That's the kind of thing. | ||
| That's all the homicide. | ||
| No, I know what I'm saying. | ||
| But the point there is, because we're so used to so much violence, that kind of small percentage and uptick to us means so much more. | ||
| Then it does there. | ||
| Also, just to put things in a little bit of a broader perspective, 215 knife-related homicides. | ||
| In the same year, there were 116 that were just people who got beat. | ||
| And 134, there were strangulation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Four that were drowning murders. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like what kind? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| They don't explain it. | ||
| They don't classify it into cinder block drowning versus... | ||
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No. | |
| I just saw it in a chart. | ||
| I don't know the details. | ||
| And actually, it might be two. | ||
| I can't remember if it's two or four. | ||
| I didn't write that one down. | ||
| Anyway... | ||
| It's hard to drown somebody. | ||
| If you drown somebody, there's a certain amount of respect I have for you there. | ||
| It is... | ||
| An ineffective, inefficient murder. | ||
| No, it's an inefficient murder. | ||
| That's a great way of putting it. | ||
| So, Jordan... | ||
| It's even hard to stab somebody to death. | ||
| It takes a lot of stabs or a really good stab. | ||
| True. | ||
| We see a very consistent thing in Alex in terms of lying and missing the forest for the trees in order to demonize minorities at the expense of glorifying white folks and making white people feel more in danger. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's very consistent. | ||
| So now we see these newer things like... | ||
| Him not being able to time his breaks right. | ||
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Right. | |
| We see Genesis Communications ads coming in and whatever the case is with that, whatever. | ||
| This next clip is where I was like, Alex is becoming his past self. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There is no way that anybody who listens to our podcast will hear this and not be like, this isn't 2018? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Always tell how Poncho fell. | ||
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From the front lines of the information war, it's Alex Jones. | |
| I can always be down, this little Merle Haggard. | ||
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Always tell how Poncho fell. | |
| He left his living in cheap hotels. | ||
| The desert's quiet, Cleveland's cold. | ||
| And so the stories were told. | ||
| Poncho needs your prayers, it's true. | ||
| Just keep a few for left at you. | ||
| He's feeling wistful. | ||
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He only did what he had to do. | |
| And now, he's grown old. | ||
| And now, he's grown old. | ||
| Because he still doesn't know how to time the lyrics. | ||
| All the letters I've been saying, they couldn't. | ||
| You do share one thing in common with Alice. | ||
| Get right to the news. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| You love to sing along with that song. | ||
| Paltrow and Lefty is a champ. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
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It's like a Bruce Willis. | |
| What was the name of that movie? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The one with Mr. Glass. | ||
| Duets. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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No. | |
| All right. | ||
| That was a Gwyneth Paltrow movie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Huey Lewis. | ||
| And the news? | ||
| No news. | ||
| No news? | ||
| Alex has to get to the news. | ||
| He does, yeah. | ||
| Well, the entertainment news. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| He's been doing this for a decade. | ||
| Singing along with Poncho and Lefty. | ||
| But he's not doing that because I'm listening to the feeds. | ||
| That is very different than current day stuff. | ||
| I'm not just creating something out of nowhere here. | ||
| I have not heard him sing along like that since the episodes that we're listening to deep in the past. | ||
| I think Alex Jones is getting... | ||
| I think he might be starting to come to terms with the fact that... | ||
| He's back on his own turf. | ||
| I'm going to be what I was again. | ||
| Best case scenario, I'm going to be back to where I was ten years ago. | ||
| I had a good run, and that's why even Poncho and Lefty thematically is such a good song for him to be wistfully singing along to. | ||
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Because he's like, he only did what he had to do. | |
| And now he's growing old. | ||
| His subconscious is coming out. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| There's almost like a piece of it that he's singing along to. | ||
| It's almost... | ||
| Diegetic songs to his life. | ||
| It's almost like it's thematic. | ||
| It's crazy, man. | ||
| On some level, he gets it. | ||
| I think he does. | ||
| And I think he's hoping that it doesn't go bad so he can still do this. | ||
| He's gonna need to cut his overhead. | ||
| That would be my advice to Alex right now. | ||
| Get rid of that studio. | ||
| Schroyer, hit the bricks. | ||
| Get rid of the studio. | ||
| Get back down to your basics. | ||
| I mean, he might have to. | ||
| It'd be interesting because I could always use a little bit of that singing. | ||
| So, I told you earlier that Alex was going to say something correct about Reagan. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Let's get that out of the way. | ||
| But one thing Reagan did wrong was they did defund the state hospitals in the early 80s. | ||
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Good work. | |
| God almighty help us. | ||
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I mean, whack jobs, people. | |
| So it's not a little judgmental there. | ||
| You ruined it. | ||
| You didn't go the correct way, but you did get it. | ||
| You kind of got it. | ||
| Your criticism of Reagan is correct. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Now, the way you proceeded is disgusting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But this is in reference to those people who had the compound in New Mexico. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's talking about them as complete whack jobs, and here's where he goes with it. | ||
| Total, complete whack jobs. | ||
| By the way, they only found the baby yesterday. | ||
| Remember the early reports where there's a dead body and the child died in the affidavits? | ||
| The cops filed. | ||
| The state police and the local police. | ||
| They're like, don't release them. | ||
| The kids all told us. | ||
| And they found the dead baby! | ||
| They found the dead three-year-old! | ||
| Just like the kids told them! | ||
| And they're still going free. | ||
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And they're still going free. | |
| Because they're signaling to their people, do whatever you want, go crazy, we're going to let you out. | ||
| Just like Benton Parton said. | ||
| He said the left wants to release all the criminals to go wild. | ||
| I'm like, we're rolling my eyes. | ||
| I'm like, we've got too many prisons, General. | ||
| He's like, yeah, that doesn't matter. | ||
| I'm talking about leftist operatives. | ||
| He goes, they've built all the prisons to train the people, Jones. | ||
| And I was like, obviously he was smart, I was young. | ||
| I haven't plugged the salary. | ||
| If you don't phone us, we'll be shut down. | ||
| It's that simple. | ||
| We have a bunch of incredible products, the best fish oil, the best fish oil for your kids, honor roll, the best krill oil. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Krill oil? | ||
| Krill. | ||
| Krill oil. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Are people whales now? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Look, dude, that, I mean, that's a pivot. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Well done. | ||
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Eh. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Mediocre. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was desperate, but again, I think he's realizing he's up against the brakes and his timing is off a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But the thing that, he's talking about General Ben Cardin. | ||
| I believe. | ||
| Parton? | ||
| Parton? | ||
| Parton. | ||
| P-A-R-T-I-N. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so earlier in the show, he told a story about having dinner with him, and he's saying that, so what the commies want to do, these commies on the left, the John Birch Society is totally right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What they want to do is make sure that the death penalty goes away, so whenever their operatives go out and foment the revolution, they can get them out of prison, which I'm like, that plan stinks. | ||
| That's a long-term plan. | ||
| And getting rid of the death penalty ain't going to help with that. | ||
| If there's a revolution, get everyone out of prison. | ||
| You don't need to do that afterwards. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You have to change the rules before him. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Very stupid. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So I looked into Ben Parton, and it turns out he's a guy who's only really notable in any way because he was a pretty early Oklahoma City bombing skeptic, let's say. | ||
| Great! | ||
| Great! | ||
| His claim to fame was he put out a report. | ||
| Wherein he claimed that the bomb that Timothy McVeigh would have had would have been too small to cause that kind of damage. | ||
| And unfortunately, other people have done reports that have been very based in physics and science and measuring the crater that happened and the diameter and depth of it. | ||
| And they've found that absolutely it could have. | ||
| So he is basically just a discredited Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy guy. | ||
| Is he an actual general? | ||
| Yeah, I didn't look into his career. | ||
| But from what I understand, yeah, he actually was in the service. | ||
| But that's one of the other things that we need to really take into consideration is just because someone's like a former FBI agent or an Air Force colonel or general, that doesn't mean they're also not crazy. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| A bunch of the people on Carrie Cassidy's show have actually been in the service. | ||
| A lot of them are lying about it, too. | ||
| But some of them actually have been. | ||
| That doesn't preclude them from also being opportunistic liars. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| When people talk about Trump revoking security clearance for these people, fuck them! | ||
| I don't give a shit! | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| I think that's very dangerous. | ||
| You think so? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And the reason is because it's an implicit threat. | ||
| It's not about John Brennan losing his security clearance. | ||
| It's a message to other people who might speak out against him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think that there's any other way to interpret it because Trump has even said, I'm going to get rid of other people's security clearance. | ||
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Yeah, of course. | |
| It is a threat from a despot who's saying that I will... | ||
| Because it's not just former people he's going to take clearance away from. | ||
| It could be people who are still in the job or whatever. | ||
| If they have their clearance revoked, they are fucked. | ||
| They can't do their job. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's just... | ||
| That's one of those things that you don't know until it happens. | ||
| I didn't know the president could just do that. | ||
| I guess he can. | ||
| Like, is that a thing he can do? | ||
| Can he do that? | ||
| Why couldn't he? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know why he could. | ||
| It seems like a random-ass thing to have that power. | ||
| Did somebody just... | ||
| He's the executive, man. | ||
| He's the commander-in-chief of all the forces. | ||
| Why wouldn't he be able to just be like, all right, fuck you. | ||
| That's a bad idea, then. | ||
| It's pretty bad. | ||
| How did they not see that coming? | ||
| Well, it turns out we had normal checks and balances in place, but not weird checks and balances. | ||
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I know, right? | |
| We weren't planning on playing weird. | ||
| So many people just... | ||
| That's why the Constitution, people calling it a perfect document, is like, no, no, no, no, you don't get it. | ||
| People are... | ||
| Fucked up. | ||
| And they'll find a way to do some weird-ass shit. | ||
| There's a lot of people who like to wiggle. | ||
| Who would you even have imagined that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Like, what president, what person, what founding father is writing the Constitution? | ||
| And they're like, well, eventually we're going to have top-secret clearance, of course. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We need a plan for that. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| This is our first Constitution, so we've got to, you know. | ||
| We tried the Articles of Confederation. | ||
| That had zero security clearance provisions in it, so we've got to write that. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I assume that the President of the United States will probably like America. | ||
| The President will always be a chill dude. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure that's fine. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And you know what's really fun about it? | ||
| Yeah, I think that we do have a problem and that we probably do need to tweak in some ways the Constitution. | ||
| We need to tweak it a lot quick. | ||
| But the problem is... | ||
| Again, dot dot dot, except Nazis. | ||
| We'll never agree on anything. | ||
| So the idea of being able to change it, or even ever having another amendment, is crazy. | ||
| The Constitution is set in stone by virtue of the fact that we can't agree on shit. | ||
| Yeah, there's going to be a civil war before there's another amendment. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I would agree on that. | ||
| I don't think that that's likely either, but I would say that would come before. | ||
| Because people need to be jostled into the reality of, like, this system is stupid and untenable. | ||
| But, who knows? | ||
| Anyway, this next clip, I gotta say, blew my mind. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because this... | ||
| Infowars made this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They edited this together as a bumper to come in from commercial with. | ||
| And I don't know what the fuck they were thinking. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Now! | ||
| They think you're a goldfish. | ||
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I've been betting on you my whole life. | |
| I believe it now. | ||
| I don't think you're stupid. | ||
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One man, the Everett's apartment, all genitals are cut off. | |
| And we're kicking these trainers' asses politically, and we're not backing down at her. | ||
| I'm going to kick these people. | ||
| We're waiting. | ||
| I can feel the spirit rising. | ||
| Can't you? | ||
| We have broken their back. | ||
| Yes, I can feel it. | ||
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Let's go. | |
| Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on! | ||
| Ha ha ha ha ha ha! | ||
| It's Indian Jim! | ||
| Fire is coming! | ||
| Fire is coming! | ||
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The real revolution against you is coming! | |
| And you will burn in hell! | ||
| Not your mother's talk radio. | ||
| That part wasn't edited. | ||
| That was Alex saying that as the next little bumper coming in kicks in. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| The fact that that's how you want to represent yourself is nuts. | ||
| Do you realize how very close that is to the drop we have for the raptor princess? | ||
| That's exactly what I was thinking. | ||
| That's the same fucking shit. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
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You're making yourself look like an insane person. | |
| We were doing that! | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| Makes me think he might listen. | ||
| It's like, I want to try that. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| The other thing that I love there is when he's, come out, come out, come out. | ||
| I mean, he's singing along to Nugent, but it's so close. | ||
| It makes me think of Adomian's Lycus. | ||
| His Tom Lycus impression. | ||
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Come out! | |
| It's just so much like, what are you doing? | ||
| I like that more than anything he's done in the past two years, I'll tell you that right now. | ||
| But that's all, like, whoever's behind the scenes. | ||
| Sounds like Darren McBreen editing that together or something like that. | ||
| But, like, the impulse seems so strange to me. | ||
| Especially since it ends with, like, there will be fire, you're going to hell, and stuff like that. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Sounds great. | ||
| So he does a fairly long interview with Sabelle Edmonds on this episode, and I don't care to talk about it. | ||
| But it is interesting that she's one of the people who will still go on his show. | ||
| Who is she? | ||
| She was a 9-11 whistleblower. | ||
| It's not important. | ||
| Her story is really complicated. | ||
| And one of the reasons that I shy away from it a little bit is that a lot of the things that she is alleging are in reports that have not been made public. | ||
| So there are a lot of things that she's asserting about confidential documents and stuff like that. | ||
| The unreleased pages from the 9-11 commission. | ||
| No, not that. | ||
| Even other stuff. | ||
| And so I just don't care to get into it because I can't really figure out the veracity of a lot of stuff. | ||
| So I just sort of punt on it. | ||
| But she's on to talk about Turkey and about Erdogan. | ||
| Thanksgiving. | ||
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No, no. | |
| Erdogan and how he's going to flood Muslims into Europe and stuff like that. | ||
| And the problem that I have with that is that Erdogan was paying Michael Flynn, which is one of the things that he did wrong. | ||
| And the other thing is that I don't believe in any scenario, any world, that Trump didn't know about that. | ||
| Or there wasn't some sort of tacit approval of Flynn working with Erdogan to try and extradite Gulen. | ||
| who you are now presenting as a horrible dictator who's trying to flood Europe with Muslims. | ||
| Well, he's doing that because it's in response to Trump being like, hey, you should probably let this dude go. | ||
| Because he really didn't orchestrate that coup. | ||
| Which, let's be honest, Erdogan... | ||
| You know, I know. | ||
| We all know. | ||
| That coup didn't happen. | ||
| That ain't no coup. | ||
| Look, is Flynn working for Venezuela now, too? | ||
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Could be. | |
| I'm not conspiracy. | ||
| He's working for Brazil. | ||
| I'm not conspiracy theory. | ||
| Well, if you're white, you're working for Brazil's fucking ludicrous government. | ||
| Anyway, let's not dive too far down that well, because it's irrelevant to Alex's stuff, and we'd end up here all night. | ||
| Suffice it to say, it's weird. | ||
| And I don't care to cover that interview because... | ||
| Weird. | ||
| It would take too long to try and parse out, like, where's your line with Erdogan in Turkey? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I don't really care. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's mostly just talking about it because it's another way to demonize Mosul. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he gets to some of the roundup of stories, and one of them is about how someone out there is standing up for InfoWars. | ||
| And that's important news. | ||
| Tucker Carlson. | ||
| Caitlin Bennett. | ||
| You know, she's a college graduate this year that was graduating and wore her AR-15 on her back that went viral. | ||
| And so, come and take it, girl. | ||
| Challenges all Apple Store devices to show Infowars.com to protest censorship. | ||
| Here's that video. | ||
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So I heard that Apple banned Alex Jones and Infowars from their iTunes store. | |
| We just wanted to leave them with a little gift. | ||
| And again, she went to all the computers and put Infowars.com on. | ||
| Get up. | ||
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is the most important broadcast I've ever done in my life. | |
| Emergency alert, false flag. | ||
| That has hundreds of thousands of views right now. | ||
| And if everybody does stuff like that, it will totally blow up in their face big time. | ||
| No, it won't. | ||
| But also, it's fun that this is what she's doing now because, like, just in the last couple days, she posted on Twitter her outside of that school, the Promise School, that LeBron James has come out and said that he's going to, everyone who graduates from this school, he's going to pay for their college education. | ||
| Among other things, he's going to pay for uniforms for the kids and stuff for the parents and stuff like that. | ||
| And so she went to the school. | ||
| And she posted a picture of herself outside with the microphone about how she's going to get to the bottom of who's paying for this school. | ||
| Hint, it's not LeBron James. | ||
| Which everyone started dunking on her because it's a public school. | ||
| He's splitting the funding. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He's not paying for the school. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's paying for a lot of the things for the kids at the school, and if they graduate, paying for them to go to college. | ||
| So that's not paying for the school. | ||
| The state pays for the school. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| It's a public school, it's not a private school. | ||
| He's allowed them to create, and he hasn't done the charter school route, which is even more admirable, because it is going to be funded and run by the public. | ||
| It's going to be almost like a test. | ||
| It's a public-private partnership. | ||
| That is very fascinating, and it'll be really exciting to see how it works out. | ||
| And because the thing that she's trying to critique is so stupid, you could just look at the definition of, like, look at what the school is, look at what LeBron James is claiming he's doing, what his plan is. | ||
| You couldn't find fault with that unless... | ||
| All you want to do is try and tear down a black man who's criticized Daddy President. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And so that's what she's all about, clearly. | ||
| That's been what she's been about, except for walking around and trying to get Instagram famous with guns for her entire short and unimpressive career. | ||
| And now she's doing the Infowars route, which is not surprising at all. | ||
| Congratulations, Caitlin Bennett. | ||
| You are a disaster. | ||
| And this is another thing. | ||
| I feel so bad because she's so young. | ||
| This is something that I hope that she'll feel bad about later. | ||
| And that's why it really is hard for me to make fun of her. | ||
| Because in youth, you make a lot of mistakes. | ||
| And these are big mistakes. | ||
| These are big, very public mistakes. | ||
| And I pray that she learns her lesson. | ||
| Not learns her lesson like someone beats her up. | ||
| But I hope that she learns her lesson and is able to live a healthy, full life after this. | ||
| Because this path doesn't go good places. | ||
| She doesn't have a career after this, other than being like, maybe she gets to be another Tommy Loren and then just gets dunked on constantly and is a shill and just a pretty face for propagandists to use. | ||
| It's a sad path. | ||
| A lady tweeted a dumb racist joke and got on a plane. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And then when she landed, she was not allowed to be part of society anymore? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| And these people are allowed? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| That's bananas. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| But that's because... | ||
| I don't know why, actually. | ||
| I was going to give you an explanation. | ||
| No, there's no clue. | ||
| It's bananas. | ||
| So... | ||
| What even... | ||
| Where do we live in? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What are we living in? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Let's move along. | ||
| Because we're almost done here, and I know you're tired, and... | ||
| I want to wrap this up so I don't have to be up all night. | ||
| But before we get out of here, Alex thinks that everyone's taking him out of context. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I actually kind of agree to a certain extent. | ||
| I believe that I watched the entire clip of him talking about have your battle rifles ready and stuff like that. | ||
| And I know it's violent language and it's trying to prepare people for the idea that violence is probably necessary. | ||
| But he's not advocating going out and shooting anybody. | ||
| And people who are construing it that way, I think it's a little bit unfair to him. | ||
| He brought it on himself, and this is exactly the reaction he would hope for. | ||
| But the news is covering it and saying that this is a violent threat and stuff like that, which I do think you could construe it that way. | ||
| I think that is one interpretation that is fair. | ||
| But Alex saying that I didn't construe it that way, and that's not what I was saying, is also fair for him to. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Which is his standard sort of complaint whenever people are actually talking about him, which is cowardly. | ||
| But I think this is worse. | ||
| This is a sync edit of Lester Holt reveals descriptive and deceptive edit techniques used against Alex Jones. | ||
| Now, let's be clear. | ||
| Lester Holt is not a pedophile, at least that I know. | ||
| These are edits of him talking about children and child molestation cases. | ||
| But according to Lester Holt's standard, where he didn't show a clip, he just read quotes that were each word out of context put together where I said, attack the media with assault rifles. | ||
| He didn't say it. | ||
| The New York Times did it, thousands of publications, but he put it out with Jack Dorsey and said, Jack, I get chills up my spine. | ||
| He says he wants people to criminally kill us with guns. | ||
| Never said any of that. | ||
| In fact, at least with this clip, we take real things he said and then put them together. | ||
| In their stories, it'll be one word, two words, one word, then they fill in the blanks. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| They don't even have the words to put it together, so they even make those up. | ||
| So, this isn't even as nasty as what he did to us, but here's an example of deceptive editing. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| On August 15, 2018, Lester Holt claimed Alex Jones called for people to use battle rifles against a tech journalist. | ||
| He did this by playing word game salad with different words that Alex Jones had said at different times. | ||
| Lester Holt dishonestly recombined those words into a whole new fake sentence they claimed that Alex actually said. | ||
| Let's use the same technique and see what Lester Holt might be. | ||
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I don't know whether he thinks it went badly or, you know, it's not for me to judge. | |
| I love a little boy in a good way, which I'm going to continue doing, but not in other places. | ||
| That's what I wanted to say. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| So if you have any great ideas about sneaking in a little boy, I'm all ears. | ||
| Yeah, I'm very good. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| I mean, there's no other way to slice that. | ||
| That's really fucked up. | ||
| I get what he's trying to do, and I get the point he's trying to make. | ||
| There's other ways to do that than that. | ||
| I don't think that his audience understands necessarily the point of what he's doing and might listen to that and be like, haha, maybe Lester Holt is a pedophile. | ||
| That's probably not fair, but I have very little faith in his audience. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I just heard that and I was like, I know he probably thinks this is funny. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| He probably thinks it's clever. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| Definitely not. | ||
| And we could do a much better version of that with Alex if we wanted to. | ||
| I mean, we kind of do already. | ||
| This is, again, him just stealing our bit. | ||
| It's him stealing our bit, but doing it so terribly. | ||
| Anyway, I don't really care. | ||
| I think that a lot of this does boil down to I don't really care. | ||
| Except for the stuff I'm really fascinated by, the reversions to past self. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That we're seeing a little bit of these trends. | ||
| I think they're very interesting. | ||
| I think I would like that to continue. | ||
| I would too. | ||
| It's a trend I would like because I think he'd be much more interesting and palatable. | ||
| And that might just be our bias of liking him more in the past. | ||
| And not liking him. | ||
| Liking the show better. | ||
| The show is more listenable when there's more human to it, less repetition of anger and bigotry. | ||
| So we have one last clip, and I kept this in specifically because it's genius. | ||
| Absolutely genius. | ||
| Brian Stelter, how dare Trump criticize us? | ||
| That silences the media. | ||
| No, criticizing known liars is telling the truth. | ||
| You're the ones calling for us to be silenced, and you do it in the same programs. | ||
| You are anti-free speech police. | ||
| You are the enemy of the country. | ||
| Does that mean I want violence against you? | ||
| No. | ||
| You're the ones politically trying to shut me down. | ||
| I'm politically exposing you. | ||
| And we know when those terror attacks come against you that you're going to stage. | ||
| We didn't do it. | ||
| You have hyped it up and got it prepared. | ||
| It's so obvious what you're about to do before the midterms. | ||
| I hope to expose it so they can't pull it off. | ||
| But to do that, I need the audience to spread those videos at InfoWars.com. | ||
| So what he's done is create a preemptive justification for something that he probably thinks... | ||
| Is a very good high likelihood sort of thing, which is someone attacking journalists, someone committing a terrorist attack on the left, or something like that. | ||
| He's now created the narrative ahead of time that, oh, you guys are going to false flag yourselves, so you look like the victims ahead of the midterm, thereby clearing the conscience of any of his wonderful, great Americana listeners and militia members. | ||
| Who they watch murder somebody and they go, well, don't worry, that's not us. | ||
| That was a false flag. | ||
| See? | ||
| Right. | ||
| It has nothing to do with our rhetoric or what we do or training people how to use guns and then letting them lose. | ||
| It's not that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's a false flag. | ||
| We can continue doing everything we want to do the same way and it definitely won't inspire further attacks. | ||
| No. | ||
| Like, it's... | ||
| The reason I say it's brilliant is because on some level I think Alex has to know that, you know, if I were a betting man, I would say someone's going to attack a fucking journalist before too long. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's shocking that it hasn't happened yet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And in order to have any kind of cover for yourself, you better have that narrative in place that, like, this is fake, they're doing it to themselves because they're all cuck babies and they need safe spaces for their wah-wahs. | ||
| And, you know, they just need pity from people or else it's not going to work. | ||
| So they're doing it to themselves. | ||
| We're cool. | ||
| And I think that sucks. | ||
| I think that's very lame. | ||
| But it's very smart if you're someone like Alex because that might help you not get sued again in the very near future. | ||
| So we've come to the end of this now. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| I still hate him in the present. | ||
| But it's much more interesting when we have Diamond Gusset commercials. | ||
| It's always better when we have Diamond Gusset. | ||
| Alex singing along to Poncho and Lefty like he has so many years ago in the past. | ||
| And then this weird wrinkle of him not being able to prepare for breaks. | ||
| I think there's something going on. | ||
| I'm not sure what it is. | ||
| I don't care that much. | ||
| In terms of mysteries I want to solve, that's not high on the list. | ||
| I don't know why we would talk to these people anymore. | ||
| I don't understand it. | ||
| I don't, because... | ||
| Be fair, I don't talk to Alex now. | ||
| No, no, I mean like any kind of Trump supporter. | ||
| There's nothing to say, because what they are doing is implicitly recognizing that what they're doing is wrong. | ||
| And the way they justify what they're doing is by claiming that the left is doing it. | ||
| Or the other side is more wrong. | ||
| Yeah, so it's like, it doesn't matter. | ||
| It does not matter what it is you say to them, because all of that is part of their paranoid fantasy that gives them justification to commit the evils that they are accusing you of committing, which allows them to continue functioning. | ||
| Like, we are constantly talking to people who are infected with this brain virus and cannot ever break free of it unless there's something so... | ||
| there's some sort of... | ||
| Impetus that's so large, like you were saying, like a civil war, something that breaks them out of this inertia. | ||
| Because it's not going to happen by just talking to them. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| You think that, and generally speaking, that might be true, but there are people who have gotten out. | ||
| There are, and the fact that there are means that it's possible for people. | ||
| So I don't think that you need that extreme of a situation, but maybe you need something... | ||
| Extreme within one's own life. | ||
| Like, someone has to have a moment of crisis, a moment of doubt, in order to see through the facade and see really what is being told to them. | ||
| Like, what is behind the rhetoric? | ||
| And that might be extreme in an individual's life, but it doesn't require a civil war. | ||
| Well, we need to have a... | ||
| I mean, it's not... | ||
| And don't take this the way that they will take it. | ||
| But there needs to be a national... | ||
| Some sort of crisis that... | ||
| Jostles these people out of it. | ||
| And I don't mean a civil war or something like that. | ||
| There needs to be some sort of driving factor. | ||
| I think no matter what the outcome of the midterms are, I think as we go further in the next year, year and a half or so, we'll start to see a lot of the consequences more coming home to roost of the policies that Trump is putting into action. | ||
| As there's more time, you'll see more of the trade war stuff not really work out in our favor. | ||
| You'll see people being just... | ||
| Just banned from the country, as we're already seeing. | ||
| You'll see all these trends that are already germinating. | ||
| You'll see the plants start to grow. | ||
| But there's the test case of the, and this is something that's been reported on for years now, but the people on whatever island it is, the island is sinking specifically because of climate change. | ||
| And they all voted for Trump. | ||
| And none of them believe in climate change. | ||
| Like, it doesn't matter what's going on. | ||
| Even their lives are disappearing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they're just still like, Trump is great! | ||
| Yeah, I don't know if you can apply that to everybody. | ||
| I'm not saying that that can be applied writ large. | ||
| I'm just saying that that's a small proof of concept. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I choose to be a little more optimistic, but who knows, man. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We can't predict the future. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| All we can do is inoculate people from this virus. | ||
| As best we can. | ||
| And you can do that by going to our website, KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| You can follow us on Twitter, at KnowledgeFight. | ||
| We also have a Facebook. | ||
| Facebook! | ||
| And we have a group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant. | ||
| Indeed, you can go to iTunes and ignore Alex's podcast and download ours. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And hey, good times. | ||
| So, it's your turn. | ||
| Is it my turn? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| God, I don't know. | ||
| There's so many people. | ||
| Like, what's that horrible woman's name? | ||
| Caitlin Barnett? | ||
| Bennett? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| She can go fuck herself. | ||
| I'll agree with that. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |