Knowledge Fight - #188: August 1, 2018

Aug. 3, 2018 - Knowledge Fight

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#188: August 1, 2018

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Jordan Holmes and Dan Friesen dissect Alex Jones’ August 1, 2018 episode, exposing his fabricated "National IPA Day" claim while mocking his legal evasions—like refusing to apologize for Sandy Hook lies—while deflecting blame onto media. They debunk his racist globalist conspiracy, Hollywood pedophilia fantasies (e.g., Isaac Kappy’s baseless allegations), and absurd black hole metaphors framing liberalism as self-destructive. Jones’ reliance on sensationalism, like Pope Francis "poop" rumors or Amtrak’s supposed hidden meaning, underscores his pattern of unfounded provocations to sustain relevance, revealing a media landscape where outrage thrives over substance. [Automatically generated summary]
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alex jones

infowars 19:43

dan friesen

01:37:19

jordan holmes

45:47

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Speaker	Time	Text
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a first time caller.
		I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
unidentified		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're a couple dudes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and on this case, celebrate National IPA Day and talk about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, we are celebrating National IPA Day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if it's actually that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just saw a sponsored post on Twitter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a made-up bullshit thing, but fine.
		We'll drink every day is National IPA Day if you're an alcoholic like me.
		So there you go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are we doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're doing a show about Alex Jones here, this podcast that we do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When did we start doing that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Two years ago.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Too long we've been doing this stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, frankly, since I've completely blanked out, what is this show about and why am I here?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're here because you are a knowledgeable man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because you startle easily.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a very good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You are the audience surrogate if our audience is very angry about climate change.
		That's why you're here.
		I'm here because I spend way too much time looking into and researching and just swimming in the pond that is conservative propaganda and conmen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sounds like a really interesting show.
unidentified		It has its moments.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The reviews are in, though.
		No one wants to review it because it's too long.
		I assume, that's why.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, today, Jordan, we have an interesting show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to be straight up at the chat.
unidentified		Straight up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now tell me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I'm Paula Abdul and you're MC Scat Cat.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You really want to love me forever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, oh, oh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to be straight up and say I think that our evidence, our episode, is going to be okay.
unidentified		But hopefully good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I am not into this episode that I listened to today.
		I am not into it.
		I did not enjoy it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love so many late-night shows.
		They always start out with, hey, guys, we got a great show for you tonight.
		Here's who we got coming up.
		I want you to, oh, you would run it and just be like, dude, these people are mediocre.
		This is going to be an okay show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd be Colbert coming out.
		I think we're going to be all right tonight.
		I think it's going to go okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We have a lot of people that you're really not that excited about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We have Bill Paxton.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody likes Bill Paxton?
		You know, everybody likes Bill Paxton.
		Nice transition.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And somebody who we're all excited about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there we go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Double transition.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Shout out to a new donor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is very exciting because I think this gentleman is also from Sweden, based on the fact that his last name includes one of those O's with a dash through it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, you can't be having those.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to guess.
		But also, that could be any number of languages that aren't necessarily American English.
		But very excited.
		Also, because he sent me a message that included, you don't need to respond to this, which always gets me very excited.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you want Dan to respond, just let him know that there's no pressure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That could help me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's no pressure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate everything very much.
		And thanks for supporting the show and becoming a policy wonk.
		Thank you so much, Christian.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Christian.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very appreciate it.
		And if you'd like to support the show, you can go to our website and click the button that says support the show.
		That would be appreciated.
		Also, some people have been asking about ways that they can donate not on a monthly basis.
		And I understand that's something that people would maybe appeal to some folks.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Recurring payments is kind of a pain in the ass, you know, with like not just that, but it's a commitment.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is something that maybe you forgot was going to be on your bank statement.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And if you're like us, if you forget something's going to be on your bank statement, sometimes you're going to get an overdraft fee.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes it can be trouble.
		And if you are in that camp there, we do have a PayPal you can send a donation to.
		And if you are interested in doing that, please just send us a message.
		Or I posted it in our Facebook group.
		Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
		I don't want to put it on the show because it's my private email.
		So anyway, Jordan, today we're going to be going over the August 1st, 2018 episode of the Alex Jones Show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, that's in reality.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's in present day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I feel we owe it to the world because Alex is going to court this week.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		From what I've heard, he's melting down.
		A lot of people talking.
		A lot of people talking.
		People talking.
		I'm not supposed to know anything about it.
		And people are talking so much that I know that there's like, he's, whoa, boy, that family.
		They're going to get him.
		Or they're not going to get him?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's had his trials beginning, or I believe, I think if I understand correctly, earlier this week, he had a motion to get this thing out of court.
		That is a motion to dismiss hearing that I don't think is going to work out.
		The lawyers, I've read a bunch of articles about this, and from what I can tell, the lawyers' arguments seem to boil down to like, do you remember when he was last on trial?
		It's great that we're talking about a case.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Last trial on Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The last time he had to present himself as a performance artist in order to have his on-air rants not be admissible in court in his child custody case.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just a joker.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody would believe me.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's important for his lawyers to draw that line because if he's not playing a character and that really is him on air, then it's relevant to how he acts off air.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And so he had to walk that really fine line of like, I'm performing, but I also feel, but I'm doing this in a way so that I also believe it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has to walk that incredibly fine line in order to not alienate his audience, but at the same time, not put him in the hopper where his videos can be played in court.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		So now that would be tough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now the new struggle and the new line that he's having to walk, or his lawyers are, is really interesting to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it is a thing where he has to still act like he knows things for his audience's sake.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, his lawyers have to argue that no reasonable person would believe that he's telling the truth.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you do want him to play his videos in court.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that would help their case.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that would help their case immensely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Screaming nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, no, well, this isn't true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's lawyers debunk him in court.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And one of the issues with that is that one of the main parts of the Sandy Hook family's argument and their claim is that he's put them at risk because of things like that lady who was threatening Posner, Mr. Posner, because she watched InfoWars and believed him to be a crisis actor.
		Right, right, right, right.
		And so in order to get them off the hook for influencing her, they have to paint her as the crazy one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She's crazy because she believed this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if you make that argument full-throatedly, then you're leaving it so like, oh, no one should believe anything he says.
		So he has to walk this really fine line.
		And I think that's fascinating because what all of these cases, I don't think this is intentional, but it's going to build up a body of weird lines he's had to walk in court.
		So we already know that he has to walk the line of performance in reality.
		Now he's having to walk the line of, you shouldn't believe me.
		Why do you believe me?
		But you should totally believe me.
		Then the other case that's pending, and I believe this one also had a hearing at some point this week.
		I can't remember the guy's name, but it's the guy who was misidentified as the Parkland shooter.
		Alex Jones and Kit Daniels, one of Alex's reporters, are being sued because they misrepresented this guy as the shooter because he had like an Antifa shirt on or like a communism shirt on.
		And so they used that to try and conflate this guy with the actual Nicholas Cruz, the shooter.
		And the due diligence that any journalistic outfit would have done is reverse image search this and find out it's not the same guy, never report this.
		And Alex, an InfoWars argument, is like, well, we accurately reported on something that was posted on 4chan, which is not journalistic due diligence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which, however, means that they are the ones who are at fault.
		And in fact, we were not reporting on the Parkland shooter.
		We were reporting on the reporting done by 4chan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which opens up another really troubling possibility that was in one of the articles I was reading.
		I think it's a really good point.
		And if that's acceptable, then any InfoWars reporter could anonymously post something on 4chan and then they report it as if it's news.
		There's a self-creating mechanism you've established here if you allow that sort of thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So I assume it will be allowed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the reason I bring up that case is the line he's going to have to walk there is like, am I really a journalist at all?
		Do I have the protections of journalism or am I just a dickhole yelling?
		You know, like, is there any reason for me to have to follow basic standards of what journalists adhere to?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that that's going to be the next hurdle that he's going to have to jump over with his lawyers.
		I don't know.
		I don't know how it's going to work out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here's my quick and dirty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is the reason why we're doing a modern episode is because we can't be an Alex Jones podcast and not sort of dive into this a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm sorry, go ahead.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here's my short analysis of this.
		One, no, no reasonable person would believe what he's saying.
		Right.
		Which protects him from the consequences of saying that no reasonable person would believe what he's saying because the people who believe what he's saying are unreasonable and therefore are going to make any excuse to continue believing what he's saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of an Ouroboros.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, no reasonable person would believe this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's because the truth is unreasonable.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And there you go.
unidentified		Done.
		Solved.
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And in the same way that, like, he had to give an apology to Hamdi Ulakaya and James Alephantis.
		He had to post these videos of him apologizing and being like, I never meant to imply they did all the things I said they did.
		And then all of his listeners are like, oh, yeah, he just had to do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he's going to have to do this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		They're just going.
		So at the end of the day, I hope that the people who were wronged by him in some way get what they're looking for out of these cases.
		But I don't think at the end of the day, I really don't see how this is going to really negatively affect him with the people who are already on board.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because what you said, they're unreasonable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, who knows?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What if the prosecution just called a bunch of Alex Jones' listeners as witnesses and just started asking them questions?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Man, that would convince anybody that no reasonable person would listen to Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but then if you I don't know what that means.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why am I running the defense for Alex?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I don't know what that means.
		Like if you establish in court that he doesn't have any responsibility because no reasonable person would believe him, then where does that leave you?
		That leaves him free to say anything he wants at that point.
		That's not good.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how it's going to play out, but.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		The Seth Rich case that was just defeated against them kind of gives me kind of like a clearer idea of where this is going to go.
		Everybody's like, yeah, we agree.
		They fucked you over, but surprise, nothing that the justice system can do for you.
		So the justice system is inherently incapable of addressing unjust situations.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's the real nightmare: Alex Jones goes to court against Sandy Hook families and somehow isn't in the wrong.
		You never want to open up that possibility as this is a potential outcome of this.
		Right.
		Because then he has years and years of, ha ha, I beat the Sandy Hook families in court.
		Right.
		No, it's not a good brag.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So what we're going for in our show is if we were ever to be sued, our defense lawyers would say, no unreasonable person would listen to these people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Then we're screwed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		That's the trick.
		That way, I can continue to call for violence.
		However, because our show is so inherently reasonable, they would all reject what they were doing.
		They would all reject it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All of our listeners know full well that I'm not going to actually wish violence on somebody.
		So were a listener to perhaps say murder Jeff Bezos in his home and pee you in his throat, then we would say, you know, nothing.
		They would be like, look, look at how reasonable our listeners are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even as Alex Jonesian parody, I don't like this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So today, Jordan, like I said, August 1st, 2018, here is an out-of-context drop.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And Trump is about saying you're powerful, you're beautiful, you're an overcomer, you're amazing.
		That's so Christ-like.
		I mean, my gut goes, Trump.
		Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump is Christ-like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's excessive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think it's more like he needs to eat better.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His gut is going to be Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you need to eat better.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even if it's saying another word, just going, oh, then, no, you got to try fiber.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Try fiber.
		Unless you're like Jay Sherman from The Critic.
		He's.
		Is it peas?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what his stomach says.
		Dude, I don't care.
		I love that show so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a great show.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I will eat your soul.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is a great show.
		Unlike Alex Jones on August 1st.
		This is rough.
		So the first clip we're going to play here, right at the beginning of Alex's episode, he's complaining about how even Fox News isn't acting him.
		And that's a concerted effort.
		Obviously, it's a character assassination job.
		And we'll see where he goes from there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		One of their morning shows viciously lie about me for 10 minutes this morning, America's newsroom, trying to outdo MSNBC.
		I guess the young ladies on the program, we've got the clip, you may play it later, are just absolutely living on their own planet.
		And of course, they'll never actually show what I've said.
		They'll actually never show what I'm doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What I'm doing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They just sit there and regurgitate the same anti-free speech, anti-gun garbage.
		No matter how many times I clarify or how many times I apologize for the media misrepresenting or how many times I reach out at the families, you see the very people on the news saying, he won't stop attacking us.
		He won't quit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the issue here is that Alex has, in more recent days, said that he believes that Sandy Hook was real, which is all good and well.
		But what he doesn't do is ever say, I did say it was fake.
		He pretends that he never said that.
		And what people take issue with is the damage that was done because of his actions in the past.
		They're not saying, oh, you keep saying it's fake, although he did for a really long time.
		And just because he says no one ever plays clips.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if we're going to play the clip again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's one.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Also, was Oregon a false flag like Newtown?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hmm.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's one?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a definite, you know, you're saying it's a false flag?
		All right, cool, cool, cool.
		So the other issue in that clip that I take very, very serious issue with is the way he presents it as like, I've apologized, but what he doesn't say is, I've apologized for what I did.
		He says, I apologize for what the media lies about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I had just written that down.
		I had just written down.
		Apologize for the media misrepresenting.
		I was like, ah, no, hold on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He does that all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, in that video that he put out trying to reach out to the Sandy Hook families, it was all about, I'm sorry that the media has hurt you with lying about me.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is so manipulative, so evil.
		It's next level irresponsible.
		And I don't, sure.
		I think it's great that he no longer gets on air and says, no kids died there.
		I think that's wonderful.
		It's not good that it's the end result of a journey.
		You should probably have started there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That'd be a good place to start.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Possibly.
		But it's really, it's just a bummer, man.
		It's a real serious bummer that he refuses to own up to and accept what he was a part of.
		That's it.
		That's the conversation that people are mad about.
		And the fact that he won't, like, it would hurt him not at all to come on air in any of the times that he's done his fake apologies and just say, we fucked up.
		We fucked up.
		You know, we thought we saw something that we didn't see.
		We thought Anderson Cooper's nose disappeared because of a green screen, but it turns out it's compression error that's only in one version of the video.
		It doesn't happen in high-res versions of the video.
		We found that stuff out, and everything isn't as suspicious as we thought.
		Rob Dew's dad didn't say the thing, or his uncle didn't say the things that we were saying that he said about investigating Sandy Hook and how he thinks it's a cover-up.
		All this stuff.
		Look, we fucked up.
		People fuck up from time to time.
		We're sorry.
		We'll do better in the future.
		That's all he ever would have had to say.
		No one would sue him.
		He'd be in the clear.
		I bet he could say that now and make this all go away.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he won't.
		I don't understand.
		I don't understand why.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean you don't understand why?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know ego and all that shit.
unidentified		There you go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Problem solved.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I still don't understand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Slice it there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand why people can't just accept, like, eh, we fucked up on that one.
unidentified		Because he can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's not a guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is a fundamental issue with hubris that it cannot be defeated by the person experiencing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the whole point of that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The word is only used for people who cannot help but fall deathly into their fucking sickness.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's what's going to happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's fascinating.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's sitting on his own petard, as it were.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, he just sort of repeats the theme of his own self-defense, which is really, really weak.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So they tried to ridicule and demonize us and lie about us once they figured out people were listening, but it's way too late.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's why every channel, including Fox News with Bill Hammer, is up there just spewing total, absolute lies about me and never showing a clip of what I've said, never showing any proof of what I've done.
		That's always a little telltale sign for you.
		And all the fake faux outrage.
		We've got a low-res copy.
		We're going to find a good one.
		We're good.
		That shaking camera is going to make me nauseous.
		Thanks.
		And it's just illustrative of how these frauds work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, that was just a little bit of an off-air conversation on air.
		And again, he's complaining that no one plays clips.
		Whoops.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sandy Hook is a synthetic, completely fake with actors, in my view, manufactured.
		I couldn't believe it at first.
		I knew they had actors there, clearly, but I thought they killed some real kids.
		And it just shows how bold they are that they clearly used actors.
		I mean, they even ended up using photos of kids killed in mass shootings here in a fake mass shooting in Turkey.
		So, yeah, or Pakistan.
		The sky is now the limit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, if any of you are interested in any of those specific pieces of bullshit that he's spitting, go ahead and look into them.
		They're all lies.
		So, Alex, I mean, I know that one of the things that he's really comfortable with is that, like, that's outside the statute of limitations.
		That was in January of 2015.
		He knows he can't be punished for that.
		So, denying that he said any of these things is going to play fine.
		Like, he knows that that can only be used as circumstantially trying to prove that current statements that he's made is a continuation of him saying that this is fake.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		That's why when we first talked about the lawsuit, that was your big deal, is that the issue is that there's a statute of limitations on this.
		And so, all the good stuff they can't use.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But they can.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But they can't use it the way that it should be used.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They can, but only if the court establishes that his statements that fall within the statute of limitations illustrate an intent to say it was fake.
		And then these past things, they still can't be, like, you can't sue him for that clip.
		But they can be used to establish a pattern and intent.
		Yeah.
		So, I mean, it's just bullshit.
		I mean, it's the most cowardly thing in the world.
		Like, you know that you said that, Alex.
		You know that you said stuff like that over and over again.
		It's not, this isn't any, this isn't a surprise.
		You've had Steve Pieczenik on constantly talking about how it was fake.
		Even this year, Steve Pieczenik has been on his show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This year.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
		He has.
		And he fucking confirmed.
		He said it again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he said that Alex has probably been threatened into saying that it's not fake.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, so, I mean, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, I.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And Alex had to do the whole waffle, like, well, I mean, there's a lot of, and then he just bailed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He just punted on the whole thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then he moved Steve Pieczenik down to the.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're going to get to hang out with Owen Sawyer and David Knight now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to talk to you for a bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're in the doghouse.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or the hurricane house, as it were.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that was excessive, but I just wanted to.
		While Alex is complaining that other people don't play clips and don't show these things, I know that we've played those clips before, but in case you haven't heard those episodes, we do.
		And that is why he will never fuck with us.
		Because he can't use that argument.
		Anyway, a lot of this episode is him talking about Google being evil.
		And fair enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're all on board.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not for you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, did you just get there?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not going to take too much issue with that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But here is a clip that goes into some weird places after he is complaining about Google.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Google was set up by the NSA, the CIA, and DARPA, and was supposedly a utility of American internet to promote freedom worldwide.
		But America's been captured, so now it is a globalist tool.
		And the president is getting informed and educated about this.
		And that's the main reason they're on every channel in the country lying about me today, saying I bully children and I do all this and I do all that, and I beat up a transgender kid and they don't show you where or when.
		It's all lies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that was from the video that got taken down from YouTube, the one about the drag queens and stuff like that.
		In an article in Daily Dot, they said that he was attacking children, but they made it very clear that that wasn't talking about the video of the guy who attacks a child that also got taken down from YouTube.
		They make it clear that he is attacking these trans children in that clip.
		And they don't say that he's physically attacking them or beating them up.
		He is attacking them in that clip.
		He is coming at kids pretty hard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Once again, in Alex's defense, if they were saying what he was saying, they would be lies.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Unfortunately, they are not saying what he says they're saying, so they're telling them the truth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep, it's all straw man shit.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so boring.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Pathetic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They've been greenlighted with propaganda like you only see before they invade an innocent country.
		This is war drum-level beating that has now reached the level Trump was being attacked during the campaign.
		I am now as demonized as the president.
		They want to turn the president against me and my audience and then have you turn against him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'd be fine with that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Even if the president ever needs to throw me under the bus, I say go ahead and do it, sir, but I don't think it's a smart move.
		And I think you already know that because they'll just keep misrepresenting and keep misrepresenting.
		And the president and others are being informed about this entire attack profile and how they're going to use it in a major campaign.
		Not just in 2018, but 2020.
		They're going to run against Trump on Alex Jones.
		No shit.
		I can already see this in the tea leaves.
		No shit.
		I talked to some high-level folks in the Pentagon, the CIA, they concur and are fully aware of this.
		And they're not just going to try to take the president out with this.
		They're going to try to take the entire First Amendment out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Excessive, perhaps.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was the first start.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The First Amendment part, bull hockey, I would say.
		Could be.
		Could be.
		But the idea that he needs to consult with CIA agents about whether or not people are going to use Alex Jones against Trump in elections.
		No fucking shit they are.
		You are the clown.
		Like, if there is somebody who's worse than Trump, I guess maybe not worse, but like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm going to go with Trump is surprisingly worse than Alex Jones by a large and not just in relative terms to power.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, like, just as a human being.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I agree.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think Trump is.
		I think Alex might actually be an okay father.
		And Trump, by all of them, I don't think that's the case.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is worse at this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, Trump is at least a little bit media savvy and what have you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, he's able to spin things that are negative about him into positive somehow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he's transcended it by now just deciding that rather than being media savvy, he's just going to remove all media but his own.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
		Whereas Alex just is like kind of angry and combative whenever things are not going great.
		And miraculously, it seemed to work, but he doesn't win these things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He just doesn't lose somehow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a push.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's this weird, unsatisfying gamble, like at the poker table, and you're like, you both have ace jack or whatever.
		And you end up splitting the board.
		It's like you thought you were going to win hundreds of dollars on a hand, and then all of a sudden, nope.
		That's what it is with Alex.
		He's taking these gambles and screaming about how everyone's coming after him.
		And then he ends up in court and has to do an apology.
		And then he's going to be a little bit more.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's a tie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex is the perpetual tie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just deflation over and over again.
		It's a balloon.
		It's a balloon that's being inflated.
		It's like, oh, my God, this is going to blow up.
		This is going to be crazy.
		And then Just a slow deflation of the balloon.
		No tension release at all.
		Just so disappointing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		You know what?
		That's a.
		What he said, though, has kind of made me view something a little bit differently.
		He is not.
		What is he doing?
		What is he doing when he's saying that if Trump needs to throw him under the bus, then he's fine with it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Has he started to believe his own bullshit on this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, he has to know that Trump is a pile of shit, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's trying to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think if I were to get into his head, which is sort of what I've been doing this whole time, I think what he's doing is trying to show honor a little bit and that, like, I am such a loyal person that if you need to throw me under the bus, I understand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like performative.
unidentified		It's like performative sacrifice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, entirely.
		But it's also a manipulation in terms of like he thinks that Trump is going to hear that and be like, fuck yeah, I never have to throw that guy under the bus or something like that.
		Yeah, I think that, yes, the short answer, he does believe his own bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because there's no way, but that's not the Alex that I know.
		That's not blustery.
		That's not I'm the last.
		No, no, I mean, that's not like the I'm the last bulwark against this.
		That's not like they're trying to take me down.
		It's like subservient in a way that I don't find acceptable from Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Are you kidding?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He said he would die for Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know, but he also said that he had ISIS up his dirty asshole.
		I'm hoping for it.
		Where's the Alex, man?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This guy's all over the place.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is pathetic.
		This is why I hate modern days because Alex is a fucking dog with his tail between his legs.
		He's pathetic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will say that there is a moment that is coming up where Alex shows a tiny bit of backbone, but it goes away pretty quickly.
		And it's actually really pretty funny.
		It's one of the few things in this episode that I was like, oh, oh, Nelly.
		So in this next clip, Alex talks about Google and how they're helping China.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so he actually read the intercept piece.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he read the headline.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure he read the entire article.
		Fair.
		I mean, yeah.
		Again, fair play.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, we're all on board.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Google's evil.
unidentified		Good call.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he's like, okay, so China's doing all this evil stuff, and Google is helping them.
		And then everybody's response is they're a private company.
		They can do what they want.
		And then he extrapolates from there in a rather unfortunate way.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There's the response.
		Well, they're a private company.
		You know, if Google wants to go over to China and help find out where Falong Gong are, who are practicing Buddhism secretly, and have them taken to facilities and have their organs harvested, that's a good thing.
		Hell, then why not say Hitler was a private company?
		What he was.
		The Nazis were a private, corrupt, evil company.
		So it's a private company.
		You know, Hitler can do what he wants.
		They'll probably have the New York Times tomorrow.
		Jones says Hitler can do what he wants, you damn liars.
		You scum.
		That's what they do, man.
		Most of the stuff you see isn't in quotes, or it's like one word, quotes, then another word, quotes, which they think the public doesn't understand.
		That means they're taking words like refrigerator magnet game, different words, and putting them together.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Never seen you do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, never.
		Also, the New York Times did not say that Alex says Hitler can do whatever he wants.
		So we can report on that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can we?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they didn't take the bait on that one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Those damn liars.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Admittedly, the New York Times has not replied for comment at time of pressing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So we can't be sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is fucking up that metaphor because.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, didn't he just make a perfect argument against capitalism?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Big time.
		Also, he fucked up the metaphor or the simile because what it would be is like, okay, so Google is helping China who are doing horrible things.
		That doesn't make Hitler the company.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That makes Hitler China in that equation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And people who helped the Nazis, like George Bush's dad, or Siemens, or Fred Koch's dad, or Fred Koch himself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These people who helped the Nazis, they are the ones who you should reflect with Google, as opposed to Hitler himself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So it's almost like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is me being an English teacher.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I understand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It bothers me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		People mess up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it was a terrible metaphor that didn't make any sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why Alex couldn't pass the fucking ACT.
unidentified		Although, on the other hand, both.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't pass or fail either of those.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're just relative benchmarks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't in my book.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, fair enough.
		But if you do want to say that his metaphor was good, and you start talking about governments as private contractors, because essentially what they're supposed to be makes the UN OSHA.
		It's essentially supposed to be an extrapolation of the public good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And instead, it is acting as its own private contractor, which you could consider our government to be doing at this point in time.
		Because they're not really, because they're what?
		They're not even for-profit now.
		They're just funneling things to for-profit companies.
		So you could say that the government has now functionally taken over the part of the middleman between private companies and what we would call human beings.
		And you would say that if they're acting as a private contractor and they're acting illegally or perhaps hatefully or propping up, oh, God, I don't know how many regimes like Saudi Arabia funding weapons that they're sending to use in the fight against Yemen.
		And the Qatar, the Qatar bullshit is beyond reasonable.
		And you could say that perhaps that is the function of capitalism to disregard human life and instead to fucking maximize profits over every goddamn thing else.
		So Alex has made a perfect point to why we should abolish the one thing that he says is the best.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ding, ding, ding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, I hate him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's really dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this next whip is also pretty dumb.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then they got the young people of China to kill at least 30 million people by hand, including their own parents.
		And then another 40 million starved to death.
		And then that was just under Mao.
		And then David Rockefeller died.
		You just type in David Rockefeller editorial praising Mao, click images, it'll come up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why are you clicking images?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why are you clicking images?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Google's buried it, but you can still find it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Pretty sure it's on the first page.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And he's like praising somebody that killed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So go to Google right now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't click images, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, just safe search off because then you get the nudie version of it.
		So you Google David Rockefeller.
		I don't know if you Google Alex's, like, clearly he doesn't know the name of the article.
		Right.
		The editorial is called From a China Traveler.
		We know this because we went over it in the endgame coverage and what have you.
		You Google it, it's the first thing that fucking comes up.
		From a China Traveler.
		Oh, the New York Times even still has it posted.
		It's the number one response on YouTube.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that's the New York Times.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Google is suppressing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
		There's so many other versions of it that have been posted here.
		And then also a bunch of really weird conspiracy theory sites that post that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, good for them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, good on them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		It's all about coverage.
		It's all about coverage.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All publicity is good publicity, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, Alex said that it was when Mao died he wrote that.
		That article was written in 1973.
		Mao died in 1976.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Petty.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Petty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not.
		That's a substantive thing.
		I know, I know, I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this might be a little petty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In this next clip, Alex tries to rewrite his own Sandy Hook history.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And let's see if this passes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Does he use crisis actors to demonstrate how different he is now?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Well, let's see.
		Let's see if he passes any kind of smell test for us, as people who have watched his transformation over time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I entertain people looking at anomalies and things with Sandy Hook.
		And then when I found out that some of the anomalies were just that anomalies, but I believe that the shooting happened.
		But we have so much lying in history by government and others.
		It's totally normal to be able to question something.
		But it doesn't matter.
		All these years later, it's then misrepresented what I've said and what I've done in lawsuits and in the news.
		But before I was ever sued, I said, you know, I can't say that it's fake.
		I think people have a right to question anything they want.
		They can say the moon's made of cheese if they want.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		True.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can they?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But I know mass shootings happen, and they're a bad thing.
		They're very rare.
		And I just don't like it.
		Then when people are involved in those type of things, they then become anti-gun and try to tell gun owners that we're to blame.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		See, that hasn't really been a good sales job telling gun owners you're to blame for what another Prozac head with an illegal gun does, who is also a game.
		Just kind of make it like Alex Jones is saying bad things about the families and the victims of Newtown, which isn't true, and then never show the quotes or never show the statements.
		Just say it.
		You get to recycle the tragedy, the anti-gun tragedy, over and over in the media.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd just like to refer everyone back to that clip we just played where he said they were all actors and no one died.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So fuck you, you pile of shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not just that nobody died, that he thought some people died, but it was proven that nobody died.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That it was all actors.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's even worse than if he had just denied it outright.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He then implied that he was convinced.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've complained about this and gone on this journey many times.
		The reason I say fuck you sincerely from that clip is like he's talking about how he later said that it did happen, which is fairly accurate.
		He did come around to that eventually, maybe because shit was getting too hot.
		That's not the issue.
		The issue is you pretend you never did.
		That is the issue.
		If you just deal with this in reality, you don't have to lie.
		That's all.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's infuriating to me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		What's interesting, by that same logic, though, consider this.
		If Trump came out and just was like, I didn't know it was happening, that the Russians were talking to my family.
		I just found out that it was.
		And you know what?
		I'm sincerely sorry about that.
		That was never my intention to collude with the Russian government.
		And I apologize for these people who did it without my knowledge.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he said that publicly and sincerely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's why you can't do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In Alex's case, there's no one but himself that is in it, like, has the finger pointed at them from his admission.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If Trump were to say that, he would be throwing his family under the bus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And he doesn't actually like any of them.
		He's a psychopath.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, but that doesn't matter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, that would be an admission that would work against these other people that could then flip and be like, he's lying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have evidence that he's lying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He does have to do the whole cabal thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He can't do the.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whereas all Alex needs to do, like, to use Game of Thrones terms, he just needs to bend the knee to the truth.
		That's all he has to do.
		He just has to be like, I know that I said these things.
		I fucked up.
		That's all you have to do.
		There's no, like, I don't want him to go to prison.
		I don't want him to.
unidentified		I do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe for other stuff.
		I don't want him kicked off air.
		I don't want any of that stuff.
		I want him to come correct.
		I want him to be right with the con because you can still lie and defraud people and not lie.
		You don't have to lie this time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As we've proved in our Project Cable Out episodes, the problem is that, like, we were just talking about in our last episode when the guy's like, why have so many of us gone to jail?
		And it's like, no, you can fraud people.
		Just pull it back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like Icarus, these people fly too close to the bottom.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You get greedy with your cons.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, that's why Jim Baker went to prison.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why Sean David Morton's in prison.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why Mark Richards is in prison.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Greed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And I mean, I think there's a cautionary tale for all these con men that's as old as time.
		If they studied the pantheon of Western culture that they seem to love so much, there's a lot, a lot in the mythology that could probably help them out with that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot.
		You know, it's almost like those were some sort of like a tale about morality and the way that you should use or not use so strange.
		It's almost like the past is trying to teach you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very weird.
		So I'm going to skip some of these clips because I think we've pretty much beat the dead horse of Alex's self-defense about the Sandy Hook shit.
		Like, he doesn't say anything all that interesting about because he knows he's in court.
		Like, he knows that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, he can't go whole hog.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So he's just doing this like, hey, you know, what they do is they take one word at a time in quotes to make it look like I said something that I didn't.
		No one has any clips of me.
		Blah, All this happens.
		It's kind of boring.
		Let's get past that and get into some juice.
		So here he's complaining about Xi Jinping being in Davos a couple years back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm not worried about that.
		You should be.
		The Davos part, I'm fine with.
		I think it's the stuff that he's doing now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex doesn't bring that up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he doesn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he went to Davos, right?
		And he said that, like, you know, with Trump being this weirdo ding-dong, and he's going to abdicate the role of world leader.
		We'll help out.
		That was his sort of take at Davos.
		I will pick up the slack and try and help with world unity and that sort of thing.
		Which Alex, of course, because world unity is a very negative thing for him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Xi Jinping has a very different idea of world unity under his rule.
		Yeah, I'm not thrilled.
		I don't want that world unity.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not thrilled with that picture.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, thank you.
		Xi, back this one off.
		Don't even be.
		I don't want you to be part of China's unity.
		The way you're treating Taiwan is fucking insane.
		I don't want none of you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
		But that's not where Alex is coming from.
		And I really, really keep this in because he's going out to break, and I would say this boy is shook.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		China's Z to promote globalization at Davos, not war and poverty.
		But you go, that was before he went.
		You can find the quotes where they're declaring war on us and our prosperity and our freedom and have SJWs trained in Maoist philosophy, which Rockefeller thought was the best.
		He funded education.
		Ready to man all the computers, all the terminals, all the censorship to be the blue city and blue state cops to suppress everybody.
		And they're rolling out a 21st century, this is World War IV, folks.
		This is it.
		America's under attack.
		The globalists are doing it.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And all I'm trying to do is fight these people for the other men going to the bottom.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did we skip it?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're not doing it.
		Look how he's getting attacked.
		Look, Braddy, we're going to lose everything if people don't stand up and speak out.
		And now Fox News behind the scenes is threatening to fire Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity for not attacking me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Wait, that was a sting to the end of that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You guys need to attack Alex Jones to get fired.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's Fox News all up and down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I've never heard anything more reasonable said about Fox News.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Seems very in line with their editorial position.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Listen, you guys, essentially, Alex Jones is now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We need you to attack Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If they were to attack Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, we'll fire you for being too Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If they were to attack Alex Jones, legitimately, the only position that they could take is like plagiarism?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's too much like us now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would have to be some sort of like step off our toes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They couldn't attack him on merit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, like, hey, hey, quit being racist over there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's my job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've claimed that space.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's ours now.
		It's very weird.
		We're the West.
		And you, Alex, now, are the people that you want the West to trample on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex, you're very full of displacement fears and anxieties about whiteness.
		Tucker Carlson has now done possibly a better job because he doesn't yell all the time.
		Possibly he's a more palatable face for your racism.
		Right.
		You have been outdone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		First off, he shaved.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't have...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, did Alex shave?
unidentified		No, no, Tucker.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Tucker shave.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Tucker shaved.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He shaved the bow tie.
		That was important.
		Got to shave that bow tie, boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that where it went?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, once you shave a bow tie, it doesn't grow back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
		I'm a yes and kind of character.
		I like to play improv games.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I said that's right.
		Son of a bitch.
		Didn't negate you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
		He just said it real quick.
		That's right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Play the tape back.
		I don't think.
		Anyway, so we move along.
		And in this next clip, Alex is coming back from break after that.
		Yeah.
		And he has some words about a gentleman from the UK who sucks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, Good news.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Tommy Robinson.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I read about this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Has been ordered released from jail.
		We're not even sure if that's happened yet.
		I'm talking to his folks, getting information as it unfolds.
		Because as we said and others pointed out, under common law and under British law under U.S. law.
		Admiralty.
		He didn't even have a real hearing.
		He was in less than one hour after he was arrested, he was put into prison for saying he covered a trial of Islamic pedophile gangs.
		But you didn't even cover it.
		You're not supposed to go inside and say what you heard because there's minors or whatever involved to protect the children.
		We can't talk about the pedos, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I have four problems with that, I think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Vitamize them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The first coming at the end, they're like, yeah, yeah.
		Protect the fucking children's identities, you asshole.
		That is absolutely just a standard of legal and journalistic integrity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You absolutely put all that shit under wraps because crisis actors.
		So that's one.
		He's scoffing about the idea of protecting children who are victims of something's privacy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How could you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Second thing, I don't know why he's bringing up U.S. law.
		He's in England.
		I don't know why he brought that up.
		Common law, U.K. law, U.S. law.
		U.S. law doesn't come into the equation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Brexit law means they have adopted all of our laws.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		First Amendment, next.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sweet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Next.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Third issue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Two solved.
		Crisis actors, U.S. law, Brexit, etc.
		Move on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Third issue is that he's saying that Tommy was put into prison without a hearing, and that's because he had a suspended sentence from another time he was harassing a bunch of Muslims.
		And the judge was like, if you do this again, we're going to put you in prison.
		We're going to let you off this time, but you have a suspended sentence.
		So he did it again.
		He got arrested.
		You get thrown straight in prison.
		You don't need a hearing at that point.
		That's basically you've broken parole.
		You will go to prison until you get another hearing on that.
		You have waived your right to not be put into a cell.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fourth Amendment, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
		My fourth problem is the idea that he wasn't covering this stuff.
		I mean, I guess I agree with that.
		He was rabble-rousing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Covering is such a the connotation on covering is very different from what he was doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was just like being a giant dick in public.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, much like that Logan Robertson character that we met recently.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was going around and just trying to antagonize Muslims, hoping one attacks him, and then he gets video of it, and he's like, look at these angry, violent Muslims.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was doing the lingual version of throwing a brick at somebody's window and then claiming you're the victim whenever they're mad at you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, beating you up.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like, I mean, I know that Jackass is sort of the touchstone of prank shows.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even they wouldn't do something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, even they wouldn't be like, okay, we're going to fuck with people and then pretend that we weren't fucked with.
		It's so ridiculous.
		So those are my four issues.
		I think you've beat down three of them, but one stance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One stance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not much I can do about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		16th Amendment?
unidentified		Was that the one about booze?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was 18th.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember the numbers.
		So at this point, we've seen a little bit of bullshit, a little bit of nonsense.
		Mostly, he's talked about China for a lot of this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And not in any substantive way.
		He's not talking.
		He does bring up the intercept.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He does bring up Greenwald, but he doesn't talk about the specifics of things.
		He just talks about, like, of course, I already knew this.
		I had secret documents.
		I had secret documents talking about how they're going to, you know, like China now has control of the entire cloud.
		So he's bringing these things up.
		Yeah, he went back the years in order to tie into new revelations that are pressing and from more reputable sources than him.
		He's trying to combine his past narratives into newer, fresher meat.
		And so he spends a lot of time on that and then just screaming about the Falun Gong.
		And fair enough, but why don't you ever talk about the Rohingya?
		Like, where do you draw the line?
		What's the issue?
		Like, where is political expedience?
		Whose victimhood do you care about, Alex?
		Well, no, because the Buddhists, the Falun Gong folk are not necessarily.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, like, at the end of, that's the whole reason that this is just a throwaway.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he talks about that a lot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He talks about the Falun Gong a lot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He talks about the Falun Gong a lot?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I asked that rhetorically, essentially.
		It's because they're in China.
		He hates China, and so some victimized group in China gets precedence over some Muslims who are being slaughtered somewhere else in a country that he doesn't have a vested interest in trying to demonize.
		So anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We talked about that intercept, or we texted a little bit about it, and your response I found to be much more direct and apt, and I would say better than mine, which was your response was like, yeah, duh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I needed a dir kind of emoji.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		And it was like, because I read the intercept article and I was like, Jesus, I can't believe they're actually building this app that will be Google but will censor everything on its own.
		And then you said, like, yeah, of course they are.
		And I was like, oh, yeah, of course they are.
		Why would I ever consider that they wouldn't be?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, because you remember the true version of what Alex lies about in terms of the cloud keys and stuff like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The real version of that is that they've given the Chinese government the cloud keys over Chinese users.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		People within the country of China.
		And that is an incredibly oppressive tool that could be used by the government against the citizens.
		Right.
		Could already.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		The fact that people came out and were like, this is a really messed up thing for them to do.
		And Google was like, we don't give a shit.
		That leads me to believe anytime I hear something like this that has some credible backing to it, yeah, no shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Google is a moral outfit that, you know, it's a huge market.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, I don't think that that means that they're going to deploy this version of it in China in order to get it back here.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that that's reasonable in any way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not until Xi Jinping unifies the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In which case, we're in trouble.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At that point, you just get some dragons.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It takes over all of the rest of the world.
		Right.
		I've been brushing back up on Game of Thrones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah?
		Yeah.
		Had to take a break from this horror and watch the Red Wedding while we were talking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's great about that is that just to talk about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you mean me watching Game of Thrones?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		Him talking about China.
		Chinina?
		China is just today, an 80-year-old not activist, but like fucking critic of the Jay Sherman?
		No, unfortunately.
		He didn't make it to 80.
		He died of heart disease at 74.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Rest in peace.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for sure.
		hated it no while he was Duke Phillips became president in 2016 he He did!
		It was based on him.
		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're the bears that sing forward to us.
unidentified		All right, let's show this into a critic reference show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't mean to derail you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
		84-year-old.
		80-year-old dude in China was giving an interview to a website and was literally arrested during the middle of the interview.
		They actually went to his place and fucking placed him under house arrest.
		His last words to the interview were like, hey, I'm allowed to do this, right?
		And then it was cut off.
		That's the situation that we're talking about with Google's search results.
		It is absolutely immoral and insane for them to actually do this, but why would we expect anything else?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why in God's name would you expect a massive corporation that is global, that has no allegiance to any nation or anything like that, and is purely about making profit, which is what it is supposed to do?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would we ever imagine that they would take a fucking stand?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no piece where morality affects your stocks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So why would any business really care all that much about it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, my best go is like, I don't order anything from Amazon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, I don't want Jeff Bezos to have another fucking dime from me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, that means anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But more to the point, what you're saying is, like, and I agree with this, and I think this is a better thing, is that like there are real problems with China and the way they behave and stuff like that in terms of human freedom, in terms of the kind of world we would like everyone to be allowed to live in.
		And it does a disservice to them when Alex lies about these things because the serious issue is undercut by the things that he's lying about.
		And he's just bullshitting and screaming in order to make himself elevated as a truth teller or whatever.
		And that's a theme that's going to play out, and it has played out over this podcast's entire history.
		Like, Alex Jones does a disservice to real serious issues by lying about them.
		He pretends he's on the right side of it, and he's against China because he loves liberty.
		Sure.
		But that conversation could be much better served by people who have nuanced thoughts about it, who don't scream all the time, don't yell that this is World War IV, America is under attack.
		That sort of thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What was World War III, though?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't worry about it.
		Probably Cold War.
		I don't know.
		Who knows?
		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I kind of want to know, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a secret world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, I want to know what he thinks World War III is.
		I don't want to know what World War III was.
		I want to know what he thinks it was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I kind of know, but I can't really articulate it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just a general vibe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, it was just the World War III vibe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's like a behind-the-scenes World War that's been going on for, I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then there was an arbistic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It ended with Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It ended with Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But then they started World War IV after Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump reach rapprochement.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just like saying that word.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You've said it quite a bit recently.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He found détente, and then war broke out again.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		It was arbitrage.
		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think I've heard some decently eloquent people who aren't crazy make the point that you could argue that something like the Cold War was a world war, that we just weren't actively, you know, because there were the surrogate wars that happened.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wars did occur all across proxy that were proxy wars.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah, you could say that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		People can make that argument in fair play to them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're not in World War IV right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hopefully, we will be soon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fingers crossed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if we are, it's because of this, what the globalists are doing.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The globalists have demographically bet on communist China and radical Islam just because of demographic numbers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Demographic numbers.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're not trying to get another earpiece during the break.
		This has been doing this way for two days.
		It just keeps popping out.
		I don't know what's going on.
		Excuse me.
		I just keep forgetting to ask for that, so I'm going to ask now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fair.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So demographically, they have decided to make this move.
		It's been done.
		We've been sold out.
		And then Trump's in there valiantly trying to fix it without getting too extreme because that could tank the stock market if he said, ladies and gentlemen, our entire government database was given to China.
		All our secrets were wide open.
		They have way more industrial might than we do.
		We've been totally sold out.
		They've got their operatives in charge of almost every university.
		The Council on Foreign Relations directs it.
		America is basically in a horrible position.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, we are now, but that's because of Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's another horrible position.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fucking trade war.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I thought it was reverse missionary.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that's a bad position, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He goes on to scream about like we gave them the Panama Canal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We gave them that canal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look into that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's private business.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We gave it to them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Private businesses.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, we slammed them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We gave it to him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We gave it to them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just like all of this stuff.
		We already talked about on a past episode the idea that they run all the universities.
		There's just a Chinese center that's very sketchy on a lot of universities.
		They run the university.
		Oh, they're implanted and running it.
		That's not what's going on.
		Again, it's the same thing.
		It's like if you look at the truth of that situation, which I apologize, I don't have all the information in front of me because we went over it before.
		You look at that and it's like, oh, yeah, this is weird.
		This is weird.
		And the reason that universities accept it is because they don't have robust Chinese language programs.
		And so they accept them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it offers them for free as a service to the school.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they get hooked into this possibly sketchy group.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, they also have ROTC programs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody wants to join the fucking military, but they're going to give us some fucking funding so we can do some shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe we should have better funded public universities.
unidentified		Ah!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe we wouldn't have this issue, Alex, if we had publicly funded universities.
		Or maybe we wouldn't have this issue if the most paid public servants in this fucking country weren't head football coaches at fucking places like that.
		Maybe you should all fucking die.
		Anytime he says demographically and then we, God, that's such the most racist thing you could say.
		Demographically, we've been sold out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So demographically, the bad guys have chosen the Chinese and the Muslims.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who's the demographic that they not America?
		No.
		Because Chinese people and Americans can both be that's a very compatible.
		It seems like.
		Oh, are there Muslim Americans?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's also compatible.
		Yeah.
		Can't be talking about Americans.
unidentified		No, it seems like something very specific.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is foreign to Alex Jones' rhetoric.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It seems so odd.
		Why would you say demographically?
		Is he talking about the four quadrants?
		Is that it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're talking about Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, Utah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not the four corners.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, dude, it's all just that displacement of your bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all just white.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, I want to.
		I just want white people, take a break.
		Can we just take a break?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Chill out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's everybody just relax for a moment.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Take a drink from the hose as if it was a football practice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Go drink from the hose.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		Just get on over there.
		Football talk recently.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Take a knee, white people.
		So in this next clip, this is actually really fascinating because I think there's another instance of this later, not the exact same thing, but there's a fascinating thing that Alex does rhetorically wherein he's describing what people do.
		He's claiming to be on the business end of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But in the clip, he's actually doing the thing he's accusing other people of doing.
		This is remarkable.
		I listened to this on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's high-level Jedi fucking judo, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I really don't think it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he even knows he's doing it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you don't think he knows he's doing it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's muscle memory.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You think he's just an instinctive judo prodigy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll see if you agree on the other end of this clip.
unidentified		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the coastal elite, not the people that live there, but the elites that just stay there and control it and suck off everybody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Phrasing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Suck off everybody?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They just have a predatory distinction because we were marked as the enemy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And one thing about war is you demonize your enemy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		War.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because most people aren't psychopaths.
		They're just mercenary follower cowards.
		So they want to believe what they're destroying is bad.
		So the universities and Hollywood and the culture is America's bad.
		America's evil.
		America's such.
		Get rid of America.
		Families are bad.
		Men and women are bad.
		You know, teach your five-year-olds how to be gay.
		And I'm not attacking people that aren't heterosexual.
		But in China, they execute you if you're gay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So you see what he did there?
		That's pretty amazing.
		That's like a gymnastic maneuver that he pulled.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was astonishing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		He's even explaining in the clip with this is war.
		You demonize your enemies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		People say things like, hate the globalists, or liberals are the cause of all of our problems.
		Or we should kill people who are different than us.
		Or every Muslim's a terrorist.
		Like, people say these things all the time, and it's just not true.
		They're just trying to demonize their enemy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't even have to go that far.
		You can just take what he said in that clip.
		You know, they hate the mother and father.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They think man and woman.
		Oh, just the very pure, like, you're demonizing your enemy as we speak.
		Yeah, such a thing.
		And then blaming other people for demonizing their enemy.
		But it's war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		War.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now we're going to get into news radio.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What is it good for?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What is it good for, George?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know when the super karate monkey death car comes to my hut.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Your response there is supposed to be, say it again.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like doing horror opgames.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I like doing that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would have gone with yes and, but I didn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the rest of this episode is going to veer fairly into pedophilia in Hollywood.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which I'm sorry to jump on you here in the middle of the episode.
		But Alex, he knows that he's got to not talk too much about his lawsuits and what have you.
		He's got to do what he does best, which is sensationalize real-world issues.
		And in doing so, he ends up bringing on a guest that I think is probably going to lead to another lawsuit.
		I don't see any way around, like, I don't think this is, I don't think what he does at the end of this episode is legal in any way.
		Like, I know he keeps prefacing it by saying that, like, I don't know if I should have this guy on.
		I don't know if I should let him say these things.
		Like, he is, like, at least, you know, being like, this might be really bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what the definition of hubris is or whether or not I am flying too close to the sun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am being fucking sued, but what if?
		Like, isn't it double jeopardy where you can only be sued one time per day?
		Like, you only get one lawsuit against you in your entire life.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So he gets into it here, and then he's going to jump off the topic for a bit and then get back to it.
		But this is where it kind of starts.
		He wants to brag a bit about his in-depth knowledge of Hollywood.
unidentified		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If you want the really big role, you got to screw a 10-year-old.
		And you're like, are you joking?
		They're like, oh, maybe I am.
		Maybe I'm not.
		And you're like, I'm about to kick your ass.
		I'm just joking.
		I'm just joking.
		Because I've been in Hollywood.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		At A-list parties, which you think are so cool.
		Like, there was no oxygen.
		They were all unhappy and neurotic.
		Everybody's mentally ill.
		You couldn't pay me to be around.
		That's why I got away from it all.
		I thought it was a way to reach out to people.
		It's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And folks are like, well, you probably want to get out of here before the kids arrive.
		And I'm like, yeah, you're joking.
		I think it's time for us to go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then, you know, you walk into back rooms at restaurants.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's like, these girls are sure pretty, man, but I think they're about 16 years old.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's just out in the open.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What restaurants?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		My soul's like, get out of here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The back room of the restaurant is very clearly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that like Benny Hanna's?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but it is a callback to anybody who listens to his show and believes his worldview.
		That's a callback to the back room of Comet Pizza.
		Yeah, that's the pizza.
		The whole thing was that back room where they have parties.
		Oh, like where they have birthday parties and stuff like that.
		There was something nefarious about that back room.
		So him saying the back room of restaurants, while he may not be talking about that, that is what is evoked in the mind of the listener.
		Now, what he's describing there as a Hollywood A-list party that he's been to, he tells that story three times on this episode and does not give any more details than what he just said there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I would argue that it more accurately represents the planes that that one dude and Trump were on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Epstein, no.
		I think that it's some guy wanting Alex to leave a party.
		If I have to play Occam's Razor games, I'm going to say that no one is going to go up to Alex and be like, hey, there's going to be some kids showing up at this party unless they want him to leave because he's bumming everybody out at this fucking party.
		Everybody's trying to have a good time, trying to have some cocktails, and this guy won't stop yelling about Building 7.
		We've got to get him out of here.
		This is a bummer.
		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And we can't confront him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because he's going to fight because he's going to freak out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So we got to creep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His eyes are going to turn red, and then he's going to be beating your head into the ground until you're in a coma.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's just going to turn off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He calls that goblin mode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's called it that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He has not called it that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He does on this episode.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		On this episode.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think I have a clip of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think I've ever heard him call it that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He calls it goblin mode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He watches a lot of movies for somebody who hates Hollywood.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are we talking Lord of the Rings goblins?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, what goblins are we talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know any goblins that just beat your head into the ground until you're in a coma.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say dad gets sued.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because Lord of the Rings goblins are very industrious.
		They're like the analogue of the dwarves.
		They live underground in mountains and build goblins, like hobgoblins.
		They're generally just considered weirder people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why they got the hob at the beginning.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		They're not quite goblins.
		They're not quite hobs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Goblin goblins.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know.
		I don't care.
		But this is fine.
		I'm sorry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm very goblin-centric in my thinking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry that I don't really have a lot of fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to know more about goblins.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll do that on another episode.
		Okay.
		Because I'm sure that Project Camelot at some point gets into Goblins.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sooner or later, we're going to have a Goblin-centric conversation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Undoubtedly.
		So that clip is foreshadowing for things to come.
		But before he gets into the meat of this and possibly runs astray of the law, he has to play a little bit more self-defense.
		Because recently, we didn't cover this on an episode, but you can find it on Right Wing Watch, Media Matters, all of them covered it.
		Alex got real weird and did some finger guns and was threatening Robert Mueller.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I heard about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Talking about wanting to have a showdown politically.
		Politically.
		And everybody's like, look at him threatening Robert Mueller.
		I'm like, hey, guys, if you really care about that, go back to the clip that we posted where Larry Nichols literally threatened to blackmail him.
unidentified		Like, that's a literal illegal threat that he made on air.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As opposed to this, where Alex can be like, I'm just using metaphors and stuff like that.
		But he realizes he's got to talk about that a little bit.
		He's got to explain himself.
		And what he ends up doing is crazy.
		This is so weird.
		Because he takes you inside his mind.
		What was his mind doing when he said those things?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would like to know what his mind was doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is very, very weird.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Then there's criticism of Tucker Carlson and others because they said, well, Alex isn't perfect, but a lot of that's out of context.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, my God, look at the stuff that Bill Maher says.
		And he says, abort all the babies, and he helps America implodes and he wants to have a depression.
		But that's okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, one thing, no one likes Bill Maher.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a blowhard douche.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he sucks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and the other thing is he's a comedian.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he's not even a good one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not, but you give him a little bit of a pass, not that he deserves much of one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But in terms of those things, he's not saying that literally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's using an attempt at humor because he's a comedian.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, it would be like, for instance, if you had your Cernovich right-wing blow-up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, no, no, no.
		Let me give you a better example.
		There's a reason we never talk about Nick DiPaulo on the show or something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, is there?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's a comedian.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's terrible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there's other...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was pretty good for a while, though.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's great on Dr. Katz.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was great on Dr. Katz.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of, not a ton, but there are a number of right-wing leaning comedians, and there's no reason to ever be like, oh, look at what they're doing.
		Because most of the time they're trying to be funny, and they say things that are fucking awful.
		But you know that there's an attempt at humor there.
		In the same way that I don't like Bill Maher.
		I don't think anyone I know who's on the left likes Bill Maher.
		I think they most think he's a shithead.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he's trying to be funny.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		An Islamophobic master.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Another fucking shithead.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		And he's a problem.
		But, you know, the statements that he makes about wanting depopulation so there's less traffic, that's just a hacky joke.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's just a shitty joke that he's making.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't want to depopulate the world so he has less traffic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're acting in bad faith if you take that literally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a monologue joke.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Leno probably made that joke 20 years ago.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Different delivery.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They can all say, kill Trump, Politically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Politically.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I want to have a political shootout with Robert Mueller.
		The last thing I want Mueller to get hurt.
		Turn him into a victim, into a martyr.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a reason that his mind went to victim first.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the worst defense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the worst defense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to kill him, but I can't because then he would turn into a victim.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If I strike him down, he'll become 10 times as strong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, you guys don't get it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really want to kill him, but I don't want to kill him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not worth it for me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the other thing is the reason that his brain comes up with victim before martyr is because that's what he cherishes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He cherishes his victim status.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't want to become a martyr.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His artificial victim status, as it were.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's why his mind cooks that up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Martyr means he doesn't get made.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't make money anymore.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Everybody knows I'm against offensive violence.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's not who I am.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's for offensive violence.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, not offensive violence.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But they're always saying I'm violent.
		So I said, why don't I said a little split-second thing.
		I do this a lot.
		So it was premeditated, but not really.
		It's kind of like a spontaneous, like love at first sight, hate at first sight.
		It was like, it was thought out, but like in 10 seconds.
		It was like, Mueller makes me so sick the way he's railroading everybody, having fake trials and breaking the Constitution and spying on Manafort's phone calls in jail with his lawyer's totally illegal.
		And gosh, it's so crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he's doing that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm not a hall for 10 years with Alita Express with all these world leaders on it having sex with reportedly his kids as young as seven.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like Trump.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They whitewash it to 14, 13-year-olds.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're going to take it to sex islands.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's whitewashing it?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And sex chics.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did he just say sex islands?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		With sex chics.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		With sex cheeks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who's not a sex chic?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The iron chic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I will tell you what you need to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Say that five times fast.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I prefer sex boat, a great song by a rapper friend of mine named FM Cat about the Minnesota Vikings sex boat scandal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I remember that one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or Fred Smoot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Fred Smoot.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		With harems, just nightmare stuff in the Middle East.
		And it makes me mad.
		And I said, you know, oh, Mueller raped kids right in front of me.
		But I said, that's not what he does.
		He doesn't do it reportedly.
		He just watches it and uses it to blackmail people, which is confirmed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Defined, confirmed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the media goes, it's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I confirmed it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He claims that Mueller's in a pizza place raping people.
		Never said that.
		They just mixed it all together.
		That's crazy, Hobby.
		You know what?
		That news got out by me getting up there saying, I don't want to do this for real, but I mean, politically, you know, high noon, spaghetti western music.
		We're going to take these globalists out politically.
		They turn that into you're being violent, you're threatening us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So at the end there, you kind of get the sense of what he's really the in it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's pretending that in his head, what I did is I made up this bit on the spot, although I had some preconceived.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I planned it out in advance, but it was made up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Much like I wrote some lines for this battle rap ahead of time, but then I got into the cipher and I came up with it off the dome.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Off the dome.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I don't really care about that.
		That's just, it's fun that he's trying to deconstruct his mental process, which I think is ludicrous.
		But then at the end there, he's very clearly lying about what people are complaining about and saying, oh, this is what you said.
		No one saying that stuff.
		But then he gets to the meat of it, which is my story got out because I yelled about all that stuff.
		They covered it because of that.
		And so whatever fictitious narrative I was trying to push got so much more traction because you all covered it.
		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And why should any, why does anybody fucking care?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why we didn't cover it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The president fucking said, I hope Second Amendment people take care of Hillary.
		It's the same shit.
		He threatened violence.
		Why would anybody give a shit now if Alex Jones does?
		Yeah.
		Who gives a shit if Alex Jones does it?
		The president fucking does it on a daily basis.
		Sarah Huckabee Sanders wouldn't even say that the press wasn't the enemy of the free world or whatever.
		Who gives a shit what Alex says other than the fact that he is giving up their games?
		I don't give a shit about his violent rhetoric or all of that other bullshit.
		I give up that I'm pissed off at the fact that he throws around exactly what you just said.
		And because of that, they gave me more coverage.
		He's allowed to say exactly why he's saying it, and nobody's covering that.
		But if he says the shit that you shouldn't cover, everybody fucking...
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wish people...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm angry!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wish the people with larger platforms and the people who are supposed to be the public watchdogs and what have you would understand the game a little bit better.
		Because he's giving it up!
		Right.
		No, it's just like anybody who's kind of too loose-lipped will inevitably just say, This is what I'm doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he does it all the time.
		If you just pay attention instead of just going for the chosen clip of outrage du jour, you'll hear it be just very clearly like, you stepped into my trap.
		Yeah, you kind of did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You absolutely did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't really know what else you can do because the other option is do what we do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And right-wing watch and media matters have way more traction than I'm going to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're not very interested in that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I think it would be interesting to see an article that just said, Alex Jones explains right-wing media by saying they are going to say whatever it is I want to say as long as I make a stupid, dumb threat, and then people pay attention.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I only have X amount of eyes that can go on.
		They have more.
		So I say something inflammatory and it tricks them into putting out the thing that I want them to put out, which is an accusation that Robert Mueller was involved with the Lolita Express and Jeffrey Epstein and watched people have sex with kids and then he has blackmail on them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You accidentally, not accidentally, you inadvertently put that message out into the world through your coverage of his sensational fake stuff, which is, I'm going to have a political showdown with him.
		It shows a lot more craftiness on his part in terms of the times that he breaks down.
		And I actually think that there's this might be a tiny bit true on his end, like that he's doing that intentionally, and part of it is saving face.
		Because I don't think if you watch the times that he's said that he was doing this in the past, a lot of times you can just see utter unhingement on his face.
		He's not thinking at all.
		He's almost spittling from his mouth and he's red.
		So I don't think that I don't know.
		There's a possibility that he's a much better actor than we think, but I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Boy, I don't know if he's a much better actor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think he's a method.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, this is Stanislavski guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
		So in that last clip, like I said, he went to victim instead of martyr for a reason.
		And that is relevant because of this next clip.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We are back live into hour number two on the most demonized, most maligned, most lied about, most persecuted radio/slash TV transmission in the world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would actually be friends.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of lies about friends.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A lot of lies about friends on the radio.
unidentified		Just the radio version of friends, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, like, what that, I mean, all you hear there is coming back from break and wearing your false victimhood like a badge.
		The idea that people supposedly lie about him, the fact that he thinks he's persecuted, is what gives him validity in his own mind and what he projects onto the mind of his listeners.
		So the idea of claiming the space of victimhood is so fucking important to him without ever, you know, really playing that card.
		You have to it in his world, it's so weak to be a victim that he can never be like, we're the victim of all this stuff.
		But he has to say everything but.
		You know what I mean?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's the only way it works for him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You have to project the strong victim.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're the victim simply because everybody else is so weak.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody else is so much weaker than you, they feel like they have to gang up on you when you're even, even then, you're so much stronger than them.
		You can survive being the victim, but only because you're such a great victim and you're always a victim.
		But they're the weak ones.
		It's stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		But it's so important to his continued existence.
		So earlier, we had that clip where Alex is talking about the globalists have chosen demographically the Chinese and the Islamic, the Muslim populations of the world.
		I'm like, huh, that sounds kind of racist.
		And then he decides to take it to the nth degree in this next clip.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Afrikaners and others are Dutch.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're basically like Amish left.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, don't talk about the Afrikaners.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're not the only movements during the Reformation 300, 400, 500 years ago to get away from all the sectarian wars in Europe and the rest of it.
		So people left to Africa and they left all over.
		And you can bet you about them all day, but then everybody wants to get into the countries that Protestant Christian worth ethics set up.
		Don't steal from people, have just courts.
		Doesn't mean we're perfect.
		But everybody wants to get in the white Protestant countries.
unidentified		Hmm.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hmm.
		The end might have been a little too overt.
		Might have been a little bit too overt there at the end.
		And I would also like to posit that there's a possible - I don't know.
		This just seems to me like there's a small chance that the reason people might now want to get into traditionally white Protestant countries is that those countries have a history of colonialism and have spent the last centuries completely decimating and strip mining the other countries for gain and profit.
		Maybe that's the reason that those white Protestant countries are now in the position of being in a much more comfortable, better position than countries in sub-Saharan Africa and in South America.
		I don't know.
		Maybe?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what was interesting to me is that the people who wanted most to get into white Protestant countries really wanted to get into those countries before the white Protestants took it away from them.
		You know, like the Native Americans, the First Nations, really wanted to get into that white Protestant country of North America.
		Yeah, yeah.
		And then, oh, man, somebody stole it.
		Somebody stole it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that is weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Somebody just fucking murdered all of them and stole it.
		And now somehow they're like, oh, we want it back.
		You only want it back because we stole it the first time, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You just triggered a thought that I'm embarrassed we have not brought up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's up?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex always talks about how the Muslims are so evil because of the Crusades and them spilling into Europe and conquest and stuff like that in the 700s and shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What happened with the Western people coming to America?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what you're talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd never really embarrassed that I never put those pieces together because I was too busy looking into, oh, what was the nature of things in Europe around that time?
		Was it back and forth with all those countries, flipping lines of demarcation everywhere every five years or so?
		And they weren't really even countries.
		A lot of the places were city-states at that point.
		There was no real combined identity of Italy or any of that shit.
		And I never even put the pieces together of like, the best example of this is really what white people did with America.
unidentified		Yep.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the exact thing.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But everyone wants to get into white Protestant countries, and you can't take that away from Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Man, white people really wish history hadn't happened.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, history is fake news.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everything that white people do, it seems like, is like in defiance of reality.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We might be aliens.
		For real.
		Have we considered that we might be the only people that are not of this planet?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, physiologically, we're all the same.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I don't know.
		Is there some sort of evil gland?
		Do we have it?
		Is the pineal gland also evil for white people?
		Is that like a thing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, the problem, the line that you're walking down now is that you're going to end up at demons before too long.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're going to end up in the same territory as Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But just about saying white people are demons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We'll never know if white people need to be banished from this earth until we banish white people from this earth.
		And then maybe we'll find out it was a good or a bad idea.
		But I think you've got to do stuff first.
		It's better to ask forgiveness from the white people that you've jettisoned into space than it is to ask for permission to jettison white people into space.
unidentified		Interesting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You would fit right in with that New York Times lady.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That the right wing is all fake matter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Guys, go to bed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fucking piss your pants somewhere else.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Get a diaper.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a great way to put it on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, New York Times, New York Times leadership.
		Fucking shut up.
		Go home.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There are no heroes here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go home.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's one heroic group in history.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I only say this because they're fairly close to my lineage.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's the Amish.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do have to respect a group that is built around the idea of just leave us alone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, for the most part, and they're also built around the idea, like, you know, the Amish and the Mennonites, who my family comes from, at least one side of my family comes from Mennonites, and the Hooterites, they all come from the Anabaptist tradition.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And their whole idea was that you don't baptize children because they don't have a choice in accepting Jesus or not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But here's the thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Personal choice?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I disagree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In Europe, in Western tradition, at the time, because of the church, adult baptism was illegal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You had to baptize every baby because what if they die before they're an adult?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Adult baptism was illegal?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I did not know that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		So at the time, because they refused to baptize children, Anabaptists, they were slaughtered and run out of countries.
		And that's why the Mennonites and the Amish ended up being this victimized class that were killed all over the place.
		They became nomadic peoples throughout Europe.
		And a lot of them ended up coming to America and settling in Pennsylvania.
		There's a bunch of hotbeds of Amish Mennonite communities.
		And my grandpa was actually a Mennonite preacher in I don't know if it's Southern California.
		It's in California.
		Like Fresno.
		He was in Fresno, California.
		Lodi before that.
		So there's a lot of, you know, there's an interesting history to the Anabaptist tradition.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That I think is a very interesting thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I knew the history of the Pennsylvania Dutch and the like, but did not know that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not know the Anabaptist aspect of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fantastic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad to learn that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's very interesting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like when I hated growing up going to Mennonite churches because they're mostly a bummer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, they're school.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, kind of.
		We lived in Columbia, Missouri, which was a city.
		People don't believe me when I say that, but it's a college town.
		It's fucking crazy.
unidentified		It's okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's okay, Dan.
		It's okay.
		You're preemptively defensive.
		You're preemptively defensive.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there was neighboring cities, like little small towns and what have you.
		And there was a Mennonite community of all of those cities that would meet in Columbia.
		Everyone would commute into Columbia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like a barbecue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and when I was younger, like maybe 10, 11 or so, we went to this Mennonite church, and it was just such a goddamn bummer.
		Like all of the, like the, and this isn't his fault, and this isn't even really necessarily Mennonite, but the preacher was in a wheelchair.
		He was a quadriplegic, and he spoke through like a trach hole.
		He had a microphone at his trachole.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was terrifying as a kid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was just so awful.
unidentified		No!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then the kids at the church were so much more evolved than me, but I was supposed to be the city kid because I lived in Columbia and they all lived in the styx.
		They were all fucking like 12.
		It was horrifying for me in that situation growing up.
		So I always had a really negative feeling about Mennoniteism and a baptism as a whole.
		But then I looked into it and I'm like, If there is a version of Christianity that's good, it's probably this one.
		They make great pies.
		The idea of child baptism is not the way to go.
		Personally, you loosened up on that a little bit, but also you should get re-baptized as an adult if you want if you mean it.
		The idea of like rum springa with the Amish, the ability to go check out the world and to leave all that.
		And then also there's such an emphasis on service within the Mennonite community and the Amish community.
		The idea of like doing things for other people, even if you're not praised for it, is really important.
		I love that.
		As an adult, I've come to like, I wish I valued the religious upbringing that I had more during that time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because later we ended up going to like a Baptist megachurch, and that was a disaster.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, that's no good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't look back on that.
		But the Mennonite stuff, I kind of have a softening in my heart for.
		And all this is just to say Alex is about to lie about the Anabaptists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's nice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have no sentimental feelings about any of my time in the church ever, ever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Your cult was a little different.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not even that.
		Just like even from when we were past the cults and we were in just like regular ass churches.
		Fuck that noise.
		Fuck those people.
		I hope they all fucking burn in hell.
		I don't give a shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		Well, I'll say that most of my life's experience was with the Mennonites.
		Alex is going to talk about the Amish.
		And there are, you know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There are differences.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		But the way I always answered the question whenever people would ask is I would say Mennonite is like Amish with electricity.
		There's more flexibility in terms of that.
		You can have a car, you can wear buttons.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Buttons are a sign of pride to the Amish.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't like buttons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But they are allowed to wear like teal shirts now, so that's better.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, reform Amish stuff is very progressive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Colors are nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All this is to say that I don't know everything about all of these worlds, whether it's Mennonite or Amish.
		I don't know everything.
		I know a bit.
		I'm pretty acquainted with it.
		I know some.
		I know enough to know that Alex knows nothing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, the Amish don't have Amish.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All I know is that I know nothing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're not eating glyphosate food.
		They don't use glyphosate.
		And they don't take vaccines.
		And they live longer, on average, 10 years.
		Their birth defects are way lower, even though they have genetic inbreeding.
		And they do not have autism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is not true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is an anti-vax propaganda.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that is such bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		The Mennonite community, the Amish community, all of them, though they do largely live separate from urban centers and what have you, there have been studies that have been done.
		There is autism in the Amish community.
		There is vaccination that is done.
		All this is cruel nonsense propaganda, just trying to bank off the idea of otherness, the otherness of the Amish.
		It's like, oh, they're a separate community.
		They don't have this.
		It's absolutely been debunked.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, why not?
		If you're going to pull this lifespan shit, talk about Okinawa.
		Sure.
		They live longer and everybody looks the same until they're 95, and then they get real old real fast, but everybody's fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's because they all eat rice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, fine, whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They don't get autism because they eat rice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Rice vaccine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you should have a rice vaccine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, dude, this is something that I've looked into quite deeply.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this one, this is bogus.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Not endorsing all the stuff the Amish do.
		They have some secret programs people don't really know about that I know about.
		I talked to some of the people.
		They like to get highly decorated chimeras.
		Army and Marine Corps officers who just so happen to be Dutch to go and they pay them big money to stud out their daughters so they get new genite bloodlines.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The whole family.
		What?
		Wait, what?
		They put a sheet between you like Orthodox Jews do.
		But it's just like breeding cattle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When did you see this?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They pay them a lot of money.
		They do genetic testing, hold on yards, and then they shut them out.
		Little side factoids.
		Doesn't really matter.
		The thing about knowledge, though, it's so addicting.
		Like, you want to learn more, Because there's just so much to know.
		It kind of sounds wild, but it's like going to a sperm bank.
		They just trust a sperm bank.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not like going to a sperm bank at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like paying a stranger to fuck your daughter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's very different from going to a sperm bank.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Knowledge is addictive.
unidentified		And you just want to learn and learn and learn and learn.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there's a number of problems with this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The first is that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is there a number?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is there just one?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, one is that the Amish community is notoriously devout.
		And one of the things that they would not ever allow is out-of-marriage sex.
		Oh, do you think that being something that's very addictive?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're not big on hiring Dutch soldiers to fuck their children in front of them with a sheet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who's the sheet for?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		First of all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who's the sheet for?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, do you know what this is?
		This comes from message boards.
		This comes from anonymous posts on message boards.
		There's a whole rich tradition online of sort of Amish fiction that has to do with the idea of how different that world is.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So people sort of do these.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's slash fic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		They create these sort of ideas that are believable enough to people who know nothing.
		And then this one is sort of caught on a little bit in the internet world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the idea that they stud out dudes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, that's just a hodgepodge of, like, the moment he said, you know, like Orthodox Jews do, you're like, all right, well, that's somebody who threw in a bullshit thing from what Orthodox Jews do and then just threw it in there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not even good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not even creative.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the idea that, like, because there's two problems.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One is if this daughter is...
unidentified		Is there only two?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, if this daughter isn't married, the Amish are against premarital sex.
		So that would be a real big issue.
		Secondarily, if she is married, they're super against infidelity.
		So that is an issue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is an issue?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The reason that Alex thinks that this is real is because of, again, what it comes back to is this othering of other populations.
		So he in his head thinks, well, there's probably not many people choosing to become Amish.
		So they must be a completely isolated community and they must all be fucking each other.
		And at a certain point, you're just going to be fucking your sisters and your brothers, like all country folk do.
		So here's the problem.
		There are tons and tons of separate communities around the country.
		A lot of them fairly close together.
		Like the Pennsylvania Dutch is something that is notorious.
		It's not one group.
		There's a bunch of different groups.
		So often people will.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not called Dave's Pennsylvania Dutch.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not a whole, it's not a franchise.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're part of this community over here, community A.
		And often there'll be a mixer with community B.
		And you'll meet someone and marry someone from Community B.
		And then you'll have kids.
		And then the kid that you have with someone from community B might have a kid with community C.
		It's not going to necessarily end up in direct inbreeding because it's not like community A, B, or C is just one family.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just one guy.
unidentified		It's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not nearly as small as Alex is presenting it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like the idea that this is going to, within two generations, it's going to be all inbred babies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not an emergency like that for the Amish.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, even if it was, even if it was an emergency, whose idea was the, well, let's hire a Dutch soldier to fuck our daughters?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who's problem-solving skills wind out there?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't seem like a succinct.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, the only reason he says Dutch is because they're called Pennsylvania Dutch, and they're not Dutch.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is a community that came from.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, but the Pennsylvania Dutch were German, if I remember correctly.
		So he's just using.
		Yeah, exactly.
		He's just using the colloquial term as an expansion.
		But it's not like he's talking about Netherlanders.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because the issue is what I talked about earlier, the idea that Anabaptists were driven all around Europe.
		Right.
		There was a nomadic character to the people to the extent that saying that they're Dutch or German isn't really the full picture of it.
		There is a multi-nationality lineage to that population.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not least of which because it was a religious thing, not a thing that you can't say about the Romani.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't say that they all come from X country.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's people who get forced around and end up in nomadic existences, which is much more.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It tends to be that case.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because if you're a nomad, you wind up interbreeding with a whole host of different people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		Someone might come along with you as you pass through.
		There's all kinds of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So that's because you tricked them with your gypsy wiles.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're not supposed to say that word.
unidentified		I don't say it is a Anasazi wiles.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did it right.
		I like these soft slurs you can use.
		Slurs that most people don't think are slurs.
		It's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, yeah, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So just to put a fine button on this, shout out to my menos out there and my Amish peeps.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who are not allowed to wear buttons.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or listen to this podcast.
		That's true.
		But this is one of those things.
		And I know that the only reason I'm driving this home so hard is because I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so offensive because of how much the narrative invalidates what those people believe.
		You know what I mean?
		There's no way they would choose this as an option because it would undo their faith to begin with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		secondarily there's no way that this is true because it comes from a fucking message board right anyway but that's such a that's such a thing Like we've talked about a bunch of times where it's like, of course you assume they would do that because you have no belief in your actual beliefs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		True.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So you're like, well, yeah, why wouldn't they sell out everything that they believe?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		True.
		There's that piece.
		And then there's also the fetishization of the community you don't understand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's very attractive to do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very hard to stop yourself from being like, I believe the weird thing about this group I think is weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And also, you would watch a Dutch soldier fuck a Amish lady.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Through a sheet, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, fuck yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other thing, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When are you ever going to get the chance to do that again?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the other thing, too, is there were like those reality shows that came out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There were like that, I don't remember the name of it, but there was that one about like Amish justice where there was a guy with a big stick who would go around and like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There was a terrible reality show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the guy with the big stick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a terrible reality show about how there was a mafia within the Amish communities.
		Okay.
		And that if people fucked with them, then they had this enforcer guy who had a couple goons.
		And I watched that show and like, this doesn't ring fucking true at all.
		So I asked my dad, because my dad's obviously much more plugged in with Red Knight communities, Amish communities around.
		And he was like, this is one of the most laughable.
		It's so fake.
		It's absolutely one of the most like, it's literally like believing rock of love is how people date.
		It's literally that level of stupid.
		And Alex is operating off that world.
		And I'm not offended.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that how Red Sonia dates?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Are you talking about that tall Brigitte?
		Yeah.
		Brigitte.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that was flavor of love.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
unidentified		Sorry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How dare you?
		Sorry.
		Dare you invalidated yourself.
		Rock of Love was with Brett Michaels for two seasons.
		And then there was the Rock of Love bus.
		That was another one.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a Rock of Love bus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's just banging droopies on a bus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, good for him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was a mess.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Shows a mess.
		So, also a mess, this next clip where Alex talks a little bit about Pizzagate shit.
		Although he's supposed to not believe this anymore.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because I learned this with Pizzagate and stuff.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You've got admissions and thousands of emails about the kids will be delivered into the hot tub for your pleasure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Talked about this on a past episode.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's misrepresenting this Podesta email.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then it's the FBI code words for sex with kids off their own Homeland Security manual, and they're talking about $65,000 for succulent hot dogs.
		Well, are these as good?
		Oh, God, these are good.
		I had these hot dogs in Hawaii.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's completely editorializing on this hot dog email that he has turned into something else.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is all bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's just riffing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're delivered by Jet.
		It's male prostitutes.
		And look, Obama's having sex with 10 dudes a day, whatever.
		The point is, is that that's what's going on on your taxpayer time.
		He's not watching sports tenor three hours a day up there, okay?
		Okay.
		And then the report is, you know, he's got, you know, well, I'm not going to get into it on a family show.
unidentified		You should.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But let's just say Amtrak isn't just a train.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can we break that down?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Amtrak isn't just a train?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, before we deconstruct that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is Amtrak then?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Before we deconstruct that, I want to tell the audience that when Alex said Obama's having sex with 10 dudes a day, your face didn't change at all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, no problem with that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Stone face.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whatever.
unidentified		The idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The very idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's say it's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just going to let that one go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's say a good sexual experience.
		I mean, there's going to be diminishing returns because of refractory periods.
		But let's say the first time is 10 minutes, right?
		Yeah.
		So let's pretend that each time it takes three minutes more or so.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		10 plus 13 plus 16 plus 19.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		22 plus 25.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's going to take all day to find out.
unidentified		It's a busy day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a busy day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, let's imagine that you're doing all 10 at the same time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's going to take even longer because each of those 10 dudes needs attention, and you can't give attention to 10 dudes at the same time.
unidentified		You know, this is ludicrous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, first off, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's probably just watching Sports Center.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You are selling Obama short.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know he has skills.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a man who can toss off 10 dudes in a heartbeat.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Please.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look, just if you were even in his presence, you'd be like, and you would shake with orgasmic rage.
unidentified		If you're saying to me that you could not control yourself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All things being equal, if you're saying to me that Obama blows 10 dudes a day, that's different.
		Because then, oh, look at this asshole spelling.
		Because then there's no sock rag.
		At that point, there's no refractory period to consider because it's 10 different dicks.
		You know what I'm saying?
		But if he's having sex with 10 dudes, that implies that his dick is involved.
		And if that's the case, he's got a nut 10 times.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying that it's not even him blowing dudes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying that there are mental powers of a power that we cannot imagine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, then what's the pleasure then if you just walk into a room and 10 dudes come?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sex is about power, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everything is about sex.
		I've heard that before.
		Sex is about power.
		I've heard that from Janelle Monet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is actually the worst lyric on her entire album.
		It's a great album.
		Dirty Computer is fantastic, but that was the worst lyric.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, sir.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Continue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I have nothing to continue with.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think I beat this dead horse.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just like Obama did with all those 10 dudes' dicks.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dead horse dicks.
		I don't know.
		I will say that this is what Media Matters and Right Wing Watch decided to cover from this episode.
		To give you some context of what he's talking about and has talked about already.
		We have people want to get into white Protestant countries.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We have the ones that white Protestants stole from the people who want to get in there now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have globalists have demographically chosen Chinese and Islam as their way to go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can't be having that.
		It's almost like they want to get into those white Protestant countries.
		Wait, no, don't they want?
		They don't want to get into those white Protestant countries, though, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		But we also have Alex talking shit on the Amish unnecessarily.
		The right-wing watch could cover that.
		You could do a little dance on his face with that if you want.
		That would be very easy to do.
		A further thing that they could have covered if they wanted to is Alex explaining why Mark Dice isn't more popular.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This would be a great thing for them to cover.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait.
		Why is he explaining it?
		Because the answer is obvious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Lack of skill.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So many.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't have it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even mad at what he does?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Worse at everything that Alex Jones is even worse at.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The easiest fucking thing in the world to do is go down to a boardwalk and fuck with people, and he does that poorly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's why he's not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A lot of different reasons.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what we would say.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex.
		What's your name?
		What's his take?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We know that intelligence agencies and other groups use this because it's not enough to blackmail somebody you're cheating on their wife or that you're gay.
		That doesn't work anymore.
		So they have to induct you.
		And the Mexican mafia or in the Aryan nations or whatever group you're in, you know, reportedly you got to go kill somebody to become a made member.
		Italian mafia the same way.
		You got to make your bones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But to get into Hollywood, you got to make your bones with a 13-year-old girl.
		That's the bare minimum.
		That's Roman Polanski.
		You get standing ovations.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, a good friend of mine is a casting agent, and this isn't true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's not?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because, I mean, it's come out in the news.
		It's come out in investigations.
		I've talked to people.
		This is what it is.
		They say at the final level, I've been told this by major people.
		And this happened to Mark Dice.
		They said, we want you to pledge to Lucifer before we give you this national show.
		I know the very production companies involved in.
		I've been involved with it.
		And in the meeting with the head of it, he said, I just want you to pledge yourself to Lucifer.
		He said, Are you messing with me because I'm a Christian?
		He goes, No, this is serious.
		I can't work with you unless you do that, okay?
		We work for Lucifer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So we work for Lucifer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's very direct.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bro, Lucifer signs our checks.
unidentified		Yo.
unidentified		We work for Lucifer, so let's let this go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Again, I don't believe this is true.
		But if it's true, I would assume that it's someone fucking with him.
		Like, it has to be, right?
		I mean, assuming that story is true, because it's secondhand coming from Mark Dice to Alex Jones, which is a tenuous link in the game of telephone.
		Like, the idea of him telling Alex this story, he's going to be lying to Alex to embellish it.
		Now, Alex is telling it to us, embellishing it even further.
		But if the literal truth of that story is the guy being like, you got to be in with Lucifer, that's more him being like, I don't want your show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Mark, I don't want you around.
		Mark, we like your show idea, but I'm going to tell you this right now.
		And you're, listen, I like your show, but I got to go up to my boss, and Lucy is not a huge fan of it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That means you're working for Lucifer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's also a possibility.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's just, no, she's really nice.
		Lucy-goosey?
		No, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My boss, Bell.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if you've met Belle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bell Lucifer?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Belle Zebub.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bell Zeebub.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, there we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a common name.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		This is so stupid.
		Like, I don't know.
		There's a point at which us trying to Play with what might actually be talked about.
		It's kind of like, what are we even doing?
unidentified		What's the point?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's the point of this?
		What was the point?
		So in this next clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Listen, bro, we work for Hades.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I mean, that's so absurd.
		Fine.
		It's perhaps the most silly thing you could possibly present as true.
		And then the second level of it is, who wants Mark Dice?
		The idea.
		The very idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That Lucifer is recruiting Mark Dice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The idea that Satan, the shoot devil, the literal devil, is like this guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good morning star.
		This guy has it.
		He's second in command to God himself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want him, but you've got to get him in the meeting to say he's cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So fucking stupid.
		Much like Alex's lack of awareness and playing games with what Amish do, he's doing the same thing with what Hollywood people do.
		And now here's the dangerous piece of it: there's absolutely abuse in Hollywood.
		There's absolutely child exploitation that happens.
		Agreed.
		We're not making fun of that at all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Never.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The idea that we're laughing about, first of all, is that anyone wants Mark Dice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then the second piece of it is the way that Alex Jones does this and talks about this very real issue that other people are dealing with, like Ronan Farrow is doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Les Morvez is criminal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Doing much more serious, nuanced work that's based in reality.
		Alex Jones is doing a disservice to all of that by bringing in so much bullshit into it.
		So in this next clip, Alex brings up something about what's bad about being in Hollywood.
		Something that's really bad about it in his experience.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I was like, I mean, I can't go to Hollywood.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like, you'll be in the dressing room or taking a pitch and somebody walks over and you know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't imagine someone coming up to people in a dressing room.
		Like, maybe if they're underage girls at a beauty pageant.
		I can't imagine what kind of temerity it would take to walk into a dressing room and harass people.
		I can't even imagine that.
		No president would ever do that, certainly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Burn it down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, burn it all down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Burn it down.
		Just burn it all down.
		Burn it all down.
		Have we considered burning it all down?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're getting real close to Ralphie Mae's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Blow it up.
		Ralphie in peace.
		Is he dead?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he is dead.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's dead.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You didn't remember he was dead.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was really mean to some friends of mine when he came and did stand-up in Columbia, Missouri.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, I've heard so many different stories, like, he had so many different stories of, like, he was alternately the most mean and then alternately the most generous.
		Like, I know people who've all of a sudden he's been like, yeah, I will pay for your entire life.
		And you're like, oh, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've heard similar things, but from the people I know closest, they're all negative.
		So I don't know.
		Anyway, rest in peace, Ralphie Mae.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He did have some fucking awful jokes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Back when I used to work from time to time at that club in Columbia, Missouri, Deja Vu was the name of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They would have those like, remember when you were hosting at Zaney's, you were being like, there's going to be a long video before this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They had the same thing at Deja Vu.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it would be who's coming up like a month from now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Ralphie Mae was coming in a month and a half or whatever.
		And then so he did play the video.
		And every time you would come and do a set, you have to watch that video.
		And it was just so bad.
		Because the joke that they decided to put in the video was talking about how he named his daughter April June May.
		And, you know, people come up to me and they say, what'd your wife think about that name?
		And I say, she couldn't say shit.
		Her genre was wrecked.
		Like, is that a joke?
		What is that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why is that in the sizzle?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why is that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's going to get me to come to the show?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look, look.
		You hear something like that.
		You think, I got to go see what the fuck is wrong with this guy.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then his opener in the video, like, legitimately, he comes to stage in a giant orange suit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's like, I'm going to stand here and let y'all get used to this amount of orange on the stage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
		So, hey, so let me.
		Oh, I hate those jokes so fucking much.
unidentified		Hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I hate those jokes so fucking much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So when we would do sets there, sometimes, like, me and my friends would be on the same show together doing guest sets.
		And one time, me and very funny, not doing stand-up anymore, but a very funny guy, Daniel Shar, who has a new movie.
		If you can find it on the internet, you should check it out.
		It's called Scraps.
		Very funny.
		I went to the premiere of it.
		Very, very fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a very, very funny dude.
		When he was still doing stand-up, we were there.
		That video played.
		It's so goddamn long.
		And he had to go up first.
		And so when he got up on stage, he's like, nah, I'm going to stand here and let you get adjusted to the amount of Shar on stage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Zero.
		Nothing.
		Nothing more.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Except me laughing my ass off about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's nothing better than a comedian wearing something and then pointing out how crazy it is that he wore it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		By choice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that crazy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it weird I chose to do this so I could say this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's so crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's almost like I planned on doing this.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, I don't have any of those.
		I don't have any of those jokes because I only write.
		Like, you got to give it up to those guys for at least writing like eight new hours every year or whatever the fuck it is.
		Like, I don't have any of those jokes because I write one new joke a year.
		Like, it's terrible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a good pace.
		Yeah.
		Anyway, we got to get back into this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, I will say that I know that Ralphie Mae is from Texas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm waiting on a good transition right here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ralphie Mae is from Texas, and I know this because one of his specials is called Ostentatious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Austin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But he's brilliant.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He spent a lot of his time in L.A.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we know that one thing from this next clip, and that is that L.A.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was a torturous route, but I love it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look at that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not my best transition.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was torturous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was torturing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We know that L.A. is very satanic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I can't go even to L.A. to audition and even get paid $10,000 to audition because I can't be there.
		Like, I can barely go in to be on Joe Rogan's podcast.
		I have to man up.
		I can take anything.
		I can't go to L.A. Like, I'm flying in.
		I feel like I'm dying.
		I mean, it's so satanic.
		My God, and that's the main enemy attack base.
		That's what's sucking the soul.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would agree that maybe he had a tough time because how hard he was self-medicating when he was on Rogan's podcast and how fucking wasted he was and acting like a dum-dum.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Could have something to do with it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, I'd also say, I don't know who's paying Alex Jones $10,000 to audition for something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go with nobody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's a good cover for why you're not in anything.
		Be like, I can't go to L.A.
		It's too satanic.
		It's pretty good.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, in this audience, yeah, it plays.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, fair enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It plays.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now, Jordan, I've been teasing this a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I didn't get it just for laughs auditions because Montreal is on fire.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bingo.
		It's that.
		That same sort of mentality.
		Yep.
		So I've been teasing that there's a guest coming up.
		You have no idea who this dude is.
		I don't.
		And you also, once the name is said, you'll have no idea who this dude is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, that's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nor should you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's Alex introducing him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, the globalist trying to brainwash humanity, turn off our life force, turn off our survival instinct.
		Hollywood is your main weapon.
		And we're joined by Isaac Cappy, who's a pretty big movie star.
		He's been in a lot of big films, big supporting roles.
		A lot of starring roles.
		I'm not going to go over all the films he's been in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I wonder why.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's coming out in this whole plethora of sex stuff happening and pedophile news and James Gunn worshiping pedophilia.
unidentified		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's a pedophile booster.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You figured that one out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And 400,000 signatures or whatever.
		I was saying, rehire him.
		And he's saying they've tried to induct me into this.
		So we appreciate him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we got Isaac Cappy, which I actually kind of suspect is buzz marketing for Super Mario Odyssey because the new character in it is Cappy, who he is like a spirit that embodies Mario's hat.
		You can throw him around and stuff.
		He's a new character, Cappy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did not know that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also reminds me of the movie Chappie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a number of reasons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a bunch of reasons.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That I don't think this guy is sincere.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What has he been in?
		Whoa, boy.
		So I've heard he's been in a number of supporting roles and a number of starring roles.
		And somebody said that they didn't want to even get into what roles he's been in because he's been in so many.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't want to tell tales out of school about what roles he's been in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So just give me a sampling of his IMDB page, which I am sure is filled with big buster hits.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll do that on the other side of this clip because I would rather let Isaac Cappy respond to Alex's allegation that he's a big movie star himself.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		And I would like to dispel a few things.
		You said, I'm not a big movie star.
		I've been in a lot of movies, but I'm not a big movie star.
		Also, I really would like to get in front of this.
		I never threatened Paris.
		And in fact, I reached out to her yesterday.
		We texted back and forth.
		And I said, look, I know you're a good person.
		I don't want to bring you into this.
		They are trying to draw you in.
		Because that's what sociopaths do.
		They use other people around them.
		They don't care who they hurt.
		They just bring him in.
		And I will say there is a lot more to that story.
		It's not relevant, though.
		And it's not relevant to the conversation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's a distractionary tactic to change the subject.
		But, I mean, I don't really follow Hollywood.
		I know who you were.
		So I'm just saying you're an established guy.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure, sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I never threatened Paris Hilton?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jackson.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Michael Jackson's daughter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Paris Jackson.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Has alleged that this guy, Isaac Cappy, choked her at a party.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		To the point where it's being reported in some, you never know how sincere, like sort of gossipy blogs are or gossip websites are.
		Sure.
		You know, I don't give a fuck about celebrity news, although this is a little bit elevated because this guy is clearly unhinged and mentally ill.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the allegation that he choked her is much more serious than, say, Paris Hilton wore a weird shirt at a bar or something like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Gossip news.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was really originally, I was trying to find very because my first thought was like, wait, did he threaten the city of Paris?
		No.
		Because if he's an Alex Jones guest, that's entirely possible.
		Then he could have been like, I was going to, I know people heard me say I was going to bomb Paris, but I'm not going to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He did threaten the city of Los Angeles, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he said something to the effect of in a tweet that he has since deleted that if people come after him, like the globalists or the powers that be come after him, he's going to reign 50 cals all over the place.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that shooting spree.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So then, yeah, he did it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whatever it is.
unidentified		So he did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That part that he's defending himself from is this allegation from Paris Jackson that he choked her at a party.
		I don't know if that's true.
		I'm going to guess based on his behavior that it's possibly true.
		I don't know.
		I don't really.
		I don't have any skin in the game.
		But in terms of him being a big movie star, I do like his lack of ego about it because he's not.
		He's been in a couple big movies, like he was an Iron Man.
		He was in Terminator Salvation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But his roles were like guy at store or something like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a glorified extra in a couple of movies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then if he had any starring roles at all, they were like weird short films that are on his IMDb resume.
		He's done not a whole lot.
		But if you look into it, he hasn't even worked in anything in the last year and a half, two years.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Neither have I.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So good on him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not shitting on him for that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was never an Iron Man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, you wish you were.
		You're part of the MCU.
		If you could only be an extra.
unidentified		If you could only have been an extra in Marvel's cinematic universe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's been in the MCU.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's turned into a real hot-button issue on our Facebook page about whether or not Howard the Duck is part of MCU.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Our buddy Jim pointed out that Howard the Duck is part of the MCU.
		And it became an argument of whether that's canonical or not.
		Got ugly.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Got ugly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love everyone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex has already in the introduction said that this guy was going to be inducted into this satanic order in Hollywood.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he tried to build him up as a very large movie star, which Isaac himself has rebuffed and been like, I've been in some movies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not really a big star or anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or an actor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he's acted.
		I don't care.
		I don't want to split hairs.
		I just want to let Isaac speak his piece and explain why he's on the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's do it.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		I have a singular mission.
		When the James Gunn stuff came up, I've been watching these people talk and talk and talk.
		They're liars.
		And the root of it is that they're pedophiles.
		James Gunn is a pedophile.
		And I know because his friends are pedophiles.
		Seth Green is a pedophile.
		He told me he was a pedophile.
		Okay?
		Like, and I'm tired of the cult state ripping apart our country and brainwashing people.
		It's driving me nuts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that could be legally actionable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Seth Green is a pedophile, and he said so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Hold on to that because we're going to get into his explanation here in a few.
		But I would say that Alex, even though he really gave a lot of pretty insistent caveats that, like, I don't know if it's a good idea to have this guy on the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not going to save you in court when you allow a guy to slander somebody on your program.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I think that's literally legally actionable, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's certainly legally actionable against Isaac Cappy.
		Now, he's already said these things in his live streams and shit.
		Like, he goes on Periscope.
		He does some of that bullshit.
		And he's said that Seth Green's a pedophile and all this shit over and over again.
		He's accused Steven Spielberg of being a pedophile, Tom Hanks.
		He's doing all this stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not Tom Hanks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if you keep track of it, a lot of it is stuff that these weird Pizzagate dudes have already been making accusations about on the internet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not really anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not first-hand information.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it is only in the sense that he does know Seth Green.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He absolutely knows Seth Green.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So he got fired by Seth Green.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's at least been at some game nights with Seth Green.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But then you have to also take into consideration other things he says in his streams.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like he's accused the Rothschilds of cannibalism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He thinks that Pizzagate is proven and documented.
		Those sorts of things.
		All right.
		Oh, and the other thing is, like, when I was saying that I'm not sure if I believe gossip sites, but take this for what you will.
		Yeah.
		They were reporting that based on what he did to Paris Jackson, she has had to move.
		Like, she's had to move because he knows where she lives, and he has kept trying to contact her.
		That sort of thing.
		I mean, I don't know if that's true, but it seems very plausible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think in the world that we wade around in, you are pretty much guilty until you prove your innocence.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's let him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In our world, in the fucking sewer that we existed, we're not talking about people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's let Isaac Cappy try and give his story before we judge too harshly, because I know what's coming up, and I think this guy's a shithead.
		But you don't know that.
		The audience doesn't know that.
		I'm getting a little ahead of myself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying that if you're a man on Alex Jones' show, I will believe whatever a woman said about you ever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You are coming.
		You're playing from behind.
		You are definitely like.
		You know what it is?
		It's the ninth inning.
		It's tied, and you have to pitch first.
		That's what it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		top of the night.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, wait, that's not, no, that doesn't work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's top of the ninth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bottom of the ninth is on bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At the bottom, because at the bottom, then you get a chance to tie it up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What I'm saying is it's you're on thin ice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm on thin ice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's sucking that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to come up with a sports metaphor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't like sports.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Put this in goblin terms then, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because you're a goblin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're with a bunch of other goblins.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're my friends.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're playing hockey.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why are we playing hockey?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Three overtime.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's no hockey.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a shootout.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, it's a shootout.
		It's a goblin shootout.
		It's a classic goblin shootout.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know sports.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But we were talking about goblins.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, let's let Isaac Cappy speak his piece.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hang himself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is part of his story that is so crazy.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, we'll continue, though.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So when did it get to the point, like Mark Dice, they didn't ask him to have sex with kids, but they said we want you to join Lucifer before he gave this TV.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Well, I was at a party, and then this child showed up with a man and a woman.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe their parents?
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		And he was asking for Seth Green.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe Seth Green's friends came over with their kid, and I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is all.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Who was out of the country at the time.
		And that's when I was like, oh, man, they want some blackmail on me.
		They want to pin me down and get me involved in this.
		And I have no desire to get into anything like that.
unidentified		Cool, cool, cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, it sounds like you do that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, I never saw anything illegal, but I was at some big parties, and I'm like, why are 15-year-old girls at this party?
		With weirdo, creepy lawyers and, like, you know.
		Oh, I get it, Martini.
		I'm 15 years old.
		I'm like, I'm out of here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're child actors?
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I understand that.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		I have also been at gatherings where there have been 15-year-olds, and it's been fine, and no one's drinking, and it's just we're, you know, just hanging out and playing board games.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure, I'm not saying you're not at the beach with your family, and the 15-year-old sneaks a beer.
		That doesn't always mean there's pedophilia.
		I'm just saying you're at a Hollywood party, and you got scantily clad girls that don't look like they're 18.
		It's weird.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What are you guys talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's happening here?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Drew Marymore?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that part at the end.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are they talking about Drew Barrymore from the 90s?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That part at the end there, they're undercutting their own argument.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he's saying that you be at a party in Hollywood where, like you said, child actors might be there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they have their lawyers there because they're child actors.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a possibility.
		I don't know what Alex is trying to depict.
		But the idea that there's a 15-year-old who's at the party playing board games with you and nothing happens, that kind of undercuts the, oh, it's always suspicious if a 15-year-old is at the party.
		Now, the part at the beginning there where he's talking about a kid showing up with a dad and a mom conceivably.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Disgusting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Looking for Seth Green when Seth Green is out of the country.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would say that precludes it from being anything suspicious because if it was a child delivery, they would fucking know that he was out of the country.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't risk that kind of thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're committing a major crime.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why would you kid over the game?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why wouldn't you even text first?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		At least send a text.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, maybe you don't want a paper trail, right?
		Send literally any sort of missive in a way that it's something.
		What are you talking about?
		Why is your first thought, okay?
		Parents bring their kid over, and Seth Green's out of the country.
		So obviously they're trying to get me to fuck a kid.
		That is the tough.
		That's the type of thinking of a man who really wants to fuck a kid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, you're looking at it that way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's just someone who is either grossly opportunistic and is trying to make a buck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or is mentally ill and has insane delusions of paranoia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Almost certainly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Those two things are the most possible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It can be all three.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I will give Alex some credit that, like, like I said, I've brought this up a couple times.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He had misgivings about the idea of talking to this guy.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I will.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't sound like he has misgivings right now, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it sounds like he's jumping in whole hog.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will tip my hat to him for at least having that kind of, you know, that sort of awareness that, like, this could go really badly.
		And at this point, it's not going really badly.
		Alex is trying to get him to, you know, do the narrative that he wants.
		He's bringing up Mark Dice as already.
		He's trying to weave in, like, I've been at parties too.
		Yeah, yeah.
		Let's get the vague narrative together that I want.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't like how you keep bringing up Seth Green.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's probably illegal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I think he might be able to sue you, and then I've got to get deposed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Another goddamn lawsuit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's swearing carrying the narrative here, is what he's doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's hoping to.
		Yeah.
		I think.
		And that's another thing that I think as we go along and get through the rest of these clips, you will see a little bit of him trying to write the story as the story is being told.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		But Alex gets kind of like, just tell me your goddamn information.
		Like, because I think even he heard that, like, a kid showed up and there was a man and a woman and Seth Green wasn't there.
		That sort of thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's weak.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's weak.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he thinks that's weak.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even for Alex, that's weak.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then on top of that, I think that Alex has been burned in the past by people like Joe Biggs coming in with that Pizzagate shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then he got in trouble and had to apologize to James Aliphantis.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't want to have to film a video where he apologizes to Seth Green.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That'd be a fun one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so he is like, just tell me your information.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Would he do it as a robot chicken?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He would do a little puppet version?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's going to come back into play.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Bottom line, without getting into all the names, what's the data dump?
		If you had five minutes on national TV, which this is, millions are tuned in right now.
		Not millions will watch later.
		What is the data dump of your experience, what you saw, what they shared?
		You were going to break.
		People just joined us.
		Should go back to that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Real quick, Alex asked him for the information, and he started weaving a weird tale as the outro music played.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now he's like, we're coming back from break.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He didn't say anything that Alex doesn't recap here before they went to commercial.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was going to keep both clips just for context, but Alex does a pretty decent job of summing it up to that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You were talking about Pizzagate to this girl, you know, this other Hollywood actress.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then all of a sudden she goes, oh, and then what happens next?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's very close to what he said.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Here's the data.
		Okay, let's just be really concise about it.
		Seth Greed, at his house after a party, we were all kind of drinking, pulled back a secret bookshelf and said to me, This is where we keep the children.
		All right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That sounds like someone who's not being sincere.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like someone who's like, oh, isn't this a dumb joke?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It sounds like somebody who's been professionally funny for a long time.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		The top floor in that Malibu house was covered in stuffed animals.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is that a guest room for maybe that couple with their kid that came and didn't know he was out of town?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or just a room for somebody who does a show with puppets.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, it's possible that he.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		With toys and puppets.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's an interesting theory.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is his entire job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's being very unspecific about what these stuffed animals are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe they're collectibles of the nerd culture stuff that Seth Green's entire career is based on.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		There was a room with a bunch of bunk beds.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, that's different.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Mind you, after that experience, I tried to block it out and just laugh it off because it's hard, you know, because you trust these people.
		I love them.
		I love them so much.
		I love them.
		And then, you know, a month later, Seth tells me at the dinner table we need to have a talk about chicken.
		And in case you're not aware, chicken is pedophile codebird for very young child.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or his show, Robot Chicken.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Tommy's into kids.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		So, like, I don't know what more data people want.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have already solved the mystery.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		His show, Robot Chicken.
		We need to have a talk about chicken.
		Do you mean his show, Robot Chicken?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That his show in the air for 13 years?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The show he does called Robot Chicken?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very much still an action.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you mean not the pedophile code word that nobody has ever used?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or maybe it has been used, but come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's allegedly used.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If there is a thing that Seth Green might say with the use of the word chicken, I'm going to go with his show, Robot Chicken.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like if you and I were like I was saying, hey, we need to talk about knowledge, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or like if I was out, you know, like maybe we go meet up with a bunch of comics and one of them I want to fill in for you one time.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like we got to go talk about this fight.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not talking about that's what that's exactly what fight clubs say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, granted, we don't call this show fight.
		But on some level, that could be a way I might drunkenly present it to somebody.
		And the idea that he's over for a dinner party and he's like, we've got to talk about chicken.
unidentified		That is 100% what he probably is talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Especially based on the other weak shit that he's presenting in terms of like, he had a secret room.
		He's like, this is where we hide the kids.
		And he does the Alex Jones creepy voice, even, which is not real.
		And then the, oh, there's stuffed animals in a room.
		And again, the bunk beds part, like, you facetiously like, this proves it.
		Again, guest room, bitch.
		I hate that I said bitch there, but like, it's so stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, you have it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You could easily, like, if you have a mansion, the idea is, like, I know from some experience watching the lifestyles of the rich and famous.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Watching cribs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people who have mansions have rooms that people can stay in that they know from their life before they were rich.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because they're rich enough to be like, hey, I'm going to build a room for you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Isn't this great that I can now have a place where you can stay with me in Malibu if you come and vacation?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to go to a hotel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have access to my mansion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you know how great it is that I have so much disposable income that I can build a room for you to visit once a year?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's human.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the idea that there's a room with bunk beds, again, comes down to the idea that maybe Seth Green has a lot of friends with kids.
		They like to stay, and maybe you would want to allow the kids to have their own room if they come and stay.
		Could be.
		I were super rich, that would be in my house.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I have enough friends that are close to me that are now married or on their way to having kids.
		Let's say I were to, I don't know, perfect world.
		I end up, we become super successful with this podcast.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To the point where I'm super rich.
		You're super rich too.
		We don't have to work anymore.
		Maybe you stay in Chicago.
		I decide, fuck it, I'm going to France.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I get a big old house in France.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That'd be fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You and your girlfriend get married, have some kids.
		We do the show over Skype or something like that to keep things going.
		Everything is good.
		But sometimes you like to have a vacation in Europe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But you want to go to France.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have kids.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have a room dedicated for when you come and visit in my chateau.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		That is something that, like, that makes perfect sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My brother, like, what you don't have to do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My brother has a huge house.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There are rooms in that house that are just for other people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Specifically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That don't match his lifestyle at all because he has people who come and stay with him.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he's in a position of his life where he can be like, this is a room for others.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is not weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't understand, though, in this fantasy scenario what I would do if I were rich, which is test the limits of the different justice systems.
		I would go around committing so many fucking crimes.
		So many fucking crimes.
		Or state to state.
		I would burn down homes anywhere I could go.
		Anywhere I could go.
		Do you know how many crimes rich people get away with?
		I would test every single fucking limit of that.
		Try and put me in jail.
		Try and put me in jail.
		I'm so rich.
		I don't even give a fuck.
		Burn it down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Making it rain on courts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Burn it down.
		I'll pay for all of your lawyers.
		You know what?
		I'll pay for the prosecution's lawyers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This has created a really fun mental picture of you arsoning.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like setting fire to someone's house and they come out and you just have a checkbook with $100 bills is how I would start fires on other people's homes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So they come out of the house that's burned down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have a checkbook and you're like, let it happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's it going to take for you to be cool?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You have nailed my rich person fantasy scenario.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's horrible.
		But I do like it.
		I do like it on one level because maybe they didn't like the house they were living in.
		And because of the numbers you could write on that check, you could buy a better house.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a slight inconvenience.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But you are helping the working man.
		I am the worst Robin Hood there's ever been.
		I'm a joyriding Robin Hood, is what I'm doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're an upfront, abusive Robin Hood.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Pays off on the back end.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shitty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're a Robin Hood who's working on spec.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm going to do?
		I'm going to put you up in a hotel for a while.
		I'm going to burn your house down.
		You're going to come watch.
		We're all going to have a great time.
		I'm going to buy you a new house.
		I'm a good guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then, oh, here's what you got to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I like that.
		I like that.
		You put them up in the hotel.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What hotel?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are we talking about like a Hilton?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Three-star.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Three-star?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Three-star.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel like I'd be a better rich person than that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Three-star.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's penny pinching rich person.
		Penny pinching rich person behaves.
		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, here's what you do.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All that stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You bring a recorder as you watch the house burn.
unidentified		The podcast is them watching the house burn.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So now I'm doing a podcast with them as their husband.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My guest is the guy who's watching his house burn.
		How do you feel right now?
		Any memories you think you're not going to be able to recover from that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, guys, welcome to the new episode of Real Estate Fight.
		I've got the Smith family over here.
		We're watching their 30-year-old home burn to the ground.
		It was built by their grandfather by his own hands.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Smith, I know you're crying right now, but you have to keep in mind that you're going to end in a better place.
		The other end of this, you're going to have a better house.
		I think it would be a great podcast.
unidentified		There's ethical issues with it, but there are a few.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that could be a mini-series on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do I let them keep mementos or do I have to stipulate that they keep it all in there?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They can only keep any copies they have of the DVD of Memento.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anything else has got to burn.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, you're not going to be able to do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What about the Nick next?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You've got to go Survivor on it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go Survivor on it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So if you've ever watched Survivor, one of the things is they get to bring one luxury item.
		Everyone who comes on the show gets to bring one razor.
		You could bring a razor to shave and stuff like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've never watched Survivor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everybody gets to bring that.
		So every member of the family gets one item.
		Gets one sentiment items.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh.
		And then on the podcast.
		Then we'll talk about their sentimental item and why it was that they chose that.
		And then there'll be the crackling of, well, roast marshmallows.
		It'll be fantastic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is the best idea for a podcast.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is right up there with that TV show with the I Can Save the Show, the stand-up show that we pitched.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, God damn it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We could be so rich.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We could be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're ideas men, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're ideas men.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We can't follow through on this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm so good at this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What were we talking about again?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Isaac.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This dude is accusing Seth Green of being a pedophile.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that how we got on to the I'm going to burn down homes as a podcast show?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, we had to talk about something real.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Isaac is basing a lot of this stuff on the fact that Seth Green said we need to talk about chicken at this dinner party.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which eerily resembles the show that he does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I got to be honest, Alex finally shows somewhere withal as a journalist in this clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't like giving props to Alex.
		Right, of course.
		This is as close as it's going to get to Alex being like, good job, buddy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Maybe they thought you were into Pizzagate.
		They thought you were funny.
		They knew you.
		They were teasing you.
		Or maybe it was Sasha Barrow.
unidentified		Hold on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sasha Barrow might have been videoed as a joke.
		I mean, how do you know?
		What I'm saying is, when did he actually say something?
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		He said it at that conversation.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		We're already eating dinner.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		So ask yourself, why would someone say, we need to have a conversation about chicken?
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		How does that make any sense?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that isn't proof of him.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Alex, please stop fucking interrupting me, brother.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It paused.
		Or delete that.
		Go ahead.
		We're on radio and TV.
		We can't say cuss words.
		I'm on getting a race.
		That's fine.
		I don't know how someone's saying chicken is that.
		Go ahead.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		So while we are already eating dinner, he says, we need to have a conversation about chicken.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Eating.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		And I say, well, to be quite honest, when that hit me, I was like, this wave of dread.
		Because I was like, they might be into this stuff.
		They might be into this stuff.
		He confirmed that they are into children.
		I asked him if they were into sacrifices and stuff like that.
		He said they weren't, but he was already lying about other stuff.
		So who knows?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, who knows?
		Alex presses a little bit more about the idea of like, what did he say?
		He's like, well, I don't remember exactly what he said.
		Go fuck yourself then.
		Get the fuck out of here.
		Get the fuck out of here with you trying to re-characterize fake conversations that you had based on this Pizzagate fear that you already had that you brought in to inform this conversation with someone who is so decent enough to let you as a fucking no-name out-of-work actor into his circle.
		You're just trying to cash in on Seth Green's celebrity.
		It's fucking nonsense.
		And now, again, you know what?
		A week from now, it could come out that Seth Green's a monster.
		And hey, I still don't believe this guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not defending Seth Green.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying this guy's story is shit.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I love that Alex, like, because he's been burned in the past, is like, he said chicken.
unidentified		That's not proof of him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex is at a, on a certain level, whenever I'm listening to this, I feel like Alex is getting out a lot of the frustration that he has.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		With himself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Oh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		With his shitty underlings.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And his audience.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's so much like.
		For real, you're going to bring this Mark Dice bullshit at me?
		Like, I already have people who are shitty at their jobs.
		Have you heard motherfucking these people talk?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		David Knight?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, have you ever talked to David Knight?
		I have to run this whole operation.
		And you're just coming at me with, he said chicken?
		Fuck off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		David Knight tried to call his show real news, and then we got in trouble because that was copyrighted, and you can't call a show that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I said to him what I did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And also, it wasn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So why don't we call the show a living, walking, qualude?
		Why don't we call it human sedative?
		And then David Knight's like, I just want to call it something.
		I was like, I don't think that's going to market very well.
		You know what I deal with having to talk to that motherfucker?
		And now you're coming into my goddamn show.
		One of my interns found you on Twitter or Reddit.
		One of your dumbest periscope things.
		He said, you've got to interview this guy.
		I said, I don't think it's a good idea, but now I do.
		You're fucking naming Seth Green repeatedly on my show.
		This is going to get us fucking sued, you dick.
		You do your periscopes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No one's watching.
unidentified		Everyone hates me now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You understand?
unidentified		I am fucking in the hopper.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You come on my show and say that Seth Green's a pedophile.
		This is going to blow back on me.
		Now, I would love to have this dance.
		In other circumstances, I would love to do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it is too hot right now.
unidentified		I have to say chicken doesn't mean shit.
unidentified		Alex is backed into a corner where he has to use the skills that he actually has.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
		He never flexes.
		This is the problem with this not being a live show.
		If every one of our, every single one of our listeners that heard that rant was like, yeah, and they just started fucking clapping.
		That was perfect.
		Nobody understands Alex Jones better than you do, and you should cry.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also, if they were watching it live, I'd be super embarrassed because I got the tiniest bit animated.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you went fucking, oh, that was beautiful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I usually have no signs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was beautiful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I usually have no sorry insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Pause that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Pause that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We can't swear on this show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, that's true.
		I love that, though.
		I very rarely ever hear someone drop a fuck on it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he threw it.
		I almost, I kept finding, like I was writing in my head, like, oh, he didn't say fucking because you can't say fucking.
		No, he totally did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Oh, yeah.
		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Alex is the only one who gets to say fucking on this show.
		I'm not a fucking Russian agent at once.
		Fill your hand.
		Fill your hand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		By the way, you can go to fillyourhand.com and redirect you to KnowledgeFight.com.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And click support the show.
		You need to know.
		So the other thing, dude, is that, like, okay, I've made it very clear.
		I don't believe this guy.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think this is thin, the thinnest soup of all time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he comes up with a rebuttal that I think is actually worth examining.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it about who you're base?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How dare you?
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		So if what I'm saying is false, why would there be such a concerted effort to shut me down on every platform that the cult state controls?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it's libel.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because crimes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it's illegal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because crimes exist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because there are crimes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because you're slandering someone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because sometimes crimes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you speak it, it's one crime.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you type it, it's another.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		know what it's if i you are you are without any evidence other than he said chicken making a horrible claim about somebody If I had murdered that guy, why would everybody be trying to prosecute for me for murder?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't make sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
		If I murdered somebody, why would everybody be trying to say that I murdered him?
		Come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They need me to shut up because it's so true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because I've murdered so.
unidentified		That is the wrong wrong angle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not a good angle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So you're too good at this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I was hoping to like I was hoping to never discuss that Seth Green's show is called Robot Chicken.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How would that not be the first thing you think of?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If Seth Green and the word chicken are in the same sentence, even if it was like Seth Green had chicken for dinner, I'd be like, did he have robot chicken for dinner?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, that's the only thing you can think.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it's been on air for 13 years.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For so many long years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It premiered in 2005.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the reason that I was hoping to tease it out is just because they don't bring it up for quite a while.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How do they not bring it up?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Until Alex does in this next book, which again, I've got to give him props for.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you this question, Kevy.
		You're really good buddies.
		We looked it up.
		We didn't just believe you.
		No, you're not.
		With Seth Green going back for years.
		So suddenly you're turning against him.
		His show is called Robot Chicken.
		You make this chicken joke.
		Is this not the ultimate outdoing Sasha Barron Cohen stunt right now?
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		I would like to dispel this one more time.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		This is not a media stunt.
unidentified		Cool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I like Alex's, like, I like his fear.
		You know what I'm saying?
		You know, like, I like that he's gun shy a little bit because he's wrong.
		This guy's just crazy.
		But I like the idea that because all these people got tricked by Sasha Baron Cohen, that now he has to be like really on his guard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That, like, wait a second.
		Your proof is that he said chicken.
		This show is robot chicken.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Are you just some sort of weird prank that's going on?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is it like, I like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is actually good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's wrong, but his brain went there, which is at least a nice next step.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		I appreciate that.
		I was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's like watching a child find the wrong but interesting solution to a problem.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		So this circle doesn't fit into the cube hole, but the cube hole, if I turn it this way, will fit into the diamond hole.
		That's pretty much the same thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or it's like, well, if we make the square hole bigger, the circle will fit.
		Interesting solution.
		You're wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		You're wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not what we're going for.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you're thinking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're appreciating.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's creativity, at least.
unidentified		That's how low the bar is for Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The fact that his brain does that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Legitimately, legitimately shocked.
		Shocked that he actually brought up Robot Chicken at all.
		Yeah, yeah.
		Because for a moment there, I was like, oh, well, of course.
		Of course he would bring up robot chicken.
		And when you said I'm surprised that he pushed back at all, I was like, oh, yeah.
		Of course.
		Because if this Sasha Baron Cohen, if he hadn't been tricked by this in the past, Robot Chicken would never have come up at all.
		He would have been all in on the bullshit narrative.
		No, I don't think – I don't know if it's – I'm not saying it's Sacha Baron Cohen specifically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not entirely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying if he hadn't been burned so many times, this would be such the thing where he's like, yeah, let's jump into it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's throw in, let's go whole, let's go all the way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's one piece that I didn't bring up because it's kind of unnecessary, but because it's come up in conversation, it's relevant.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think one of the biggest reasons that Alex is like, with or without Sasha Baron Cohen, would be pushing back against this guy a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's because he's getting sued.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's that.
		But also the QAnon world and like the Reddit and 4chan subs about him are largely like, don't trust this guy.
		Like most of the internet's conspiracy community has red flags on Isaac Cappy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because there are stories about him choking Paris Jackson.
		Right.
		Because there are people from his past who have anonymously posted on these forums about knowing him and him being an attention kind of whore guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Then also there are stories.
		These are apocryphal.
		I can't really sort these out or not.
		I'm only reporting this in as much as it is why these internet communities don't trust him.
		They say that he's tried to, in private messages, get people who are quote-unquote whistleblowers to identify themselves as if it were a doxing operation.
		Like trying to get private information from people.
		I don't know if that's true, but that's what they're saying on the web about him.
		So there's a distrust about him as a whole.
		I think Alex took this on as like a, well, I'm playing, I don't know, I don't know why I'm using another goddamn poker metaphor, but I'm playing a Jack 5 suited.
		Maybe something weird will happen.
		You know, like he's accepting this interview as like, I'm coming in with a bad hand.
		I can walk away from it.
		I can fold in the middle of this.
		There's no big deal.
		I'm not emotionally invested in this, but if it hits, it's going to hit big.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we're in the middle of the interview, and it is not him.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is not hit.
		But the weird thing that happens is that Alex pushes back against him.
		He's like, chicken doesn't mean shit.
		And then he's like, he has a show called Robot Chicken.
		Sasha Baron Cohen is fucking with people right now.
		Do you understand what's going on?
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he gets all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you fucking with me?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he gets that all out of his system.
		And then after he's said it, it's almost like his hotheadness cools.
		And then he's like, yeah, I know they are fucking kids in Hollywood.
		So, you know, maybe there's some truth to what you're saying.
		He kind of becomes like, ah, we're cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's really aggressive to the point where Isaac is like, people fucking say this all the time.
		And he has to use the delay.
		And then Alex is just like, yeah, right, you're cool.
		What?
		He didn't say anything to prove his point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's still Alex.
unidentified		He's still out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's still Alex.
		He's still out.
		So he interviews him for like, I don't know, probably half an hour.
		And it's crazy.
		It's crazy.
		And he gets to this.
		There's no more meat here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no more meat.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They have already done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've got what we wanted to get.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everything else that Isaac Cabby says is all just like the same shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And like, well, I think this, like, no information at all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we've dealt with him having the child delivery.
		We've heard him say that Seth Green has a false room in his house and some plush animals and that he talks about chicken.
		However, this is the most important clip of it all.
		It has nothing to do with what they're talking about.
		But it has everything to do with two dudes who are both trying to lie to each other, coming to loggerheads.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so good.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
		People always ask, why doesn't anyone from Hollywood, why don't they come out?
		Why are there no whistleblowers?
		Well, I'm right here, okay?
		And this is the best you're going to get for now until someone with all the blackmail materials.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm a whistleblower.
		I've been at private super A-list deals, and I'm like, those girls are not 16.
		Maybe 16.
		I mean, you have.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't doubt you have, but you haven't been intimate friends with these people like I have.
		Maybe you have and haven't talked about it.
		Yeah, I'm assuming there.
		You know, I know a lot of people in Hollywood.
unidentified		And the clip's not done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The clip's not done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's the greatest thing ever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet you do.
		You fucking know Seth Green.
		What do you think?
		Seth Green is your A-lister?
		Come on, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Two guys are trying to ping-pong back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's turned into a dick measuring contest about friends.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		My friends are more important than your friends.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know Charlie Sheen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I haven't pointed this out at all, by the way.
		There's a guy in studio co-hosting with Alex who runs a who runs a TV network that plays Alex.
		Like, he has some sort of maybe a satellite TV channel and he plays InfoWar shows on it.
		I haven't played any of him because his voice is a disaster.
		It's just like the movie phone guy.
		He has like a hey, I'm a broadcaster.
		And he's just an idiot.
		He doesn't say anything worthwhile.
		But he's sitting next to them.
		While they're bickering, first of all, the whole thing about chicken, he's just silently sitting there.
		But then also, while they're bickering here about like, you know, like, you know, hey, I'm sure you've been to the parties, but you're not like good friends with them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you don't know.
unidentified		You don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know a lot of celebrities.
unidentified		I bet you do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here's where that goes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Gee, the top people that tried to recruit me were the producers and the directors, the lawyers.
		I skipped right past the actors.
		You understand?
		The actors are like the minions, right?
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's fine.
isaac kappy ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it should be noted, though, that Seth Green has a big production company with a bunch of TV shows under his banner.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, I agree.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No one wins.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know the big producers and the doctors.
unidentified		Well, it should be the South Korean producer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fuck off.
		I love that, though, because Alex is trying to cuck him by being like, look, you hung out with the actors.
		The producers tried to get me.
		And then, very correctly, Cappy is like, South Korean has a giant production company that runs a show that's been on the air for 13 years and other shows.
		He's a massive player in terms of being able to get things made.
		And then Alex is like, fair.
		And then, without admitting that he's wrong, moves on to another point.
		So it's like, what are you guys doing?
unidentified		Wasn't this about the kid victims?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why are you guys pissing comments?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Seriously.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go to bed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Come back to it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, go to bed.
unidentified		Go to bed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go to bed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You guys aren't doing anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go to bed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So at this point, after this pissing contest, the guy who shall not be named, because I've forgotten his name and he's not important, starts talking about how, like, you know what, in Hollywood, what it is, is really that all these people who didn't have friends in high school get to rise to prominence.
		You know, like all these people who are really antisocial and didn't have any friends get to find themselves in a position where they have power over other people.
		And I mentioned this earlier, a friend of mine who I'm not going to name because that's their business.
		But I have a friend who is a casting agent.
		I don't know if they're still at the same place, but they were working for one of the two largest casting agencies in the country.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I've talked to them about the experience and what they go through.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And none of this checks out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it doesn't?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The reality of that world or anything.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Odd.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I know them from high school.
		I knew what they were like.
		And I'm using an ambiguous pronoun for a reason.
		They don't need their business on the streets.
		They were awesome.
		They had a lot of friends.
		They were super cool.
		I was asocial.
		I had trouble with stuff.
		And they were super nice to me.
		They made me feel very welcome and comforted.
		I haven't spoken to them in a long time chronological terms.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is why I don't have a job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's probably been a couple years since we've actually had a real conversation.
		But I care about them very much.
		They were amazingly social at that point in life, which flies counter to this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A little bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that guy is very dumb.
		But it leads to Alex.
		Man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, come on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is so good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is so good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then they go to Hollywood, and it's a big giant fly zap or a big web where they can now be in charge.
		And the cheerless that wouldn't date them, they're going to crap all over her and make them eat their poop.
		That's what they do.
		You know, that's one level of it.
		Like the Pope talks about that's what he likes to do, reportedly.
		I mean, think about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Pope Francis likes to make it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So Pope Francis makes people eat poo in general or his poop?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's hard to say based on pronoun reference, but I would assume I would assume it's his, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you think so?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, because Alex is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he's the Pope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He hasn't flown in from many different places.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he gets that boutique.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is Vatican poo.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Artisanal poo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because Alex is saying that they crap all over them, which implies that the agency is on you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You are the crapper and the crappy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that's metaphorical.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Politically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are we doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is this?
		What is going on?
		God damn it.
		God damn it, Dan.
		What is going on?
		Are we adults?
		Are we adults?
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are there adults around?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad this is a Friday show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Someone call an adult.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad this is a Friday show because it's sort of like, hey, you know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to now do this new thing where it's like on Friday we let it all happen to explain this retroactively.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is anybody fucking paying attention?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are we doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I also love to, like, if we can just take one second to pump the brakes.
		He's talking about the Pope making people eat shit.
		Yes.
		Which is confirmed.
		Earlier, he said that Obama is fucking 10 dudes a day and that the Amtrak means something else, which we do not know what America is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea what that is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to know what Amtrak means.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I imagine it's a train up your ass.
		I have no idea.
		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the issue that I come away with it is when Isaac Cappy said fuck on the show, he's like, this is a family show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
		That's right.
		I forgot.
		I forgot that he uses it's a family show to describe why.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like Scott Ackerman on Comedy Bang Bang as a joke is like, that's not that kind of show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But Alex is legitimately saying, like, this is a family show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is for the.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're talking about the Pope making a show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, don't you know how the family gathers around like what are you doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like I hate him in the present because there's nothing really of substance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's all this nonsense bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I do on some level.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a part of me that likes it on some level just for how like I don't even can't finish the sentence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He kind of thinks that his show is a prairie home companion, except for sometimes he talks about the Pope making people eat shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well you know what I you know if I had to give a like a broad prediction I would I would say that like the Pope is going to make somebody eat shit first.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Abroad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Abroad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I think by that I mean overseas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that what you mean?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The thing that I'm going to predict.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Two popes, one cup.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The thing that I, well, there are two alive now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The thing that I'm going to predict is that like from all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You forgot the dark pope, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's three.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The black pope in Solomon's Temple.
		There's three at least.
		The thing that I'm going to predict is that Alex is going to, from these lawsuits, sort of learn his lesson that you can't do this to civilians.
		People in power aren't going to care.
		You can yell about Soros being a demon all you want.
		He's never going to sue you because he's bigger fucking issues.
		He doesn't care about whatever bullshit you're saying.
		He knows it's not true, and he knows that libel laws are difficult.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So whatever.
		Just live your life, you know, enjoy it.
		He can do this to the Pope because the Pope's not going to sue him for saying that he makes people eat shit.
		He doesn't give a shit.
		The Pope has much bigger things to do.
		Like recently, he said that capital punishment is no good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's also said that hell isn't real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Pope Francis has big issues on his plate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He did that through eating a bowl of shit, though.
		Like, that was one of the things that he was doing while he was like, oh, shit is delicious.
		Also, by the way, capital punishment cannot do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And why won't they?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm against the death penalty.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm still going to protect child molesters, but I'm going to eat shit and I'm against the death penalty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand why the MSM won't report what he had as crude d'eté while he made these announcements.
unidentified		You know what I'm saying?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ain't nothing cruder than his crude d'ete.
		You know what I'm saying?
		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All the pool reporters were there.
		They could smell it.
		They could smell it conspiracy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Flies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Spinning around his mouth as the Pope says that the death penalty is no longer acceptable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I don't know what my point was necessarily about what the value of present day is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I guess it's just that nothing matters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nothing matters in the present day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe that's the button.
		Weird some of this is.
		And who knows?
		There's this last clip here.
		I think this is a perfect place to end because it's profoundly weird.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's nothing that sets this up, like legitimately.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This doesn't come out of a natural place.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This isn't like an organic evolution of the conversation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I tried to go like maybe 15 seconds before to give it some context.
		Nothing.
		But it would actually make it more confusing.
		Okay.
		Because the guy who runs that TV network is talking about something completely different.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then Alex comes in with this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They send a transmission.
		It's spiritual.
		There's a transmission probably emanating out of one of the black holes, they think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure spiritual black hole.
		Die, die, die, kill yourselves, be scumbags.
		Because there's a transmission, like all these planets, kill yourselves.
		No, do not listen to the transmission.
		There's a bigger transmission from God saying don't do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex, he's not saying that they believe that.
		He's arguing that from a black hole, there's a transmission that's trying to say kill yourself to a bunch of planets that are unoccupied by anybody.
		But then we are getting this transmission from the black hole saying that we should kill ourselves.
		And by that, because we know Alex Jones enough, he means give minorities rights and be liberal with that sort of thing.
		That is what it will end up killing you.
		Be accepting of other people.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But God comes in and says, no, don't do that.
		And because we already know from our outer context drop, Trump is Christ-like.
		Do what Christ would do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is be a monster.
unidentified		Explain to me real quick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Black holes, which they believe exist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Send out a spiritual transmission.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which would be tough to get out of the event horizon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would be tough to get a message out of the thing that sucks in every single time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, we've all read Einstein's theory of relativity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We know that the only thing that escapes the event horizon is the spirit.
unidentified		And shifty messages.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Shifty fucking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So black holes spit out a spiritual message willy-nilly at 360 degrees.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All over the place.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's like on Lost, you know, the black hole is like Rousseau's transmission, you somo.
		They're all dead.
		All right.
		It's that.
		Give up all hope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're dead.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So then you should kill yourself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why do black holes do this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that a thing?
unidentified		Are you trying to get the motivation?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, is there a motivation behind the black hole or is the black hole doing it?
		Is the black hole the real victim here in that it can't do anything but send out this transmission of yawning chasmic pain?
		Like, what's going on here?
		Is the black hole okay?
		I'm most concerned about the black hole.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan, you've got this wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can think of no way that I've got this wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is probably a Muslim who hates Western civilization on the other end of the city.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And at the center of every black hole.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who's just yelling?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
		Just like at the center of every galaxy, there is a supermassive black hole.
		At the center of every supermassive black hole, there is a supermassive Muslim.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or non-Western person.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Non-Western person.
unidentified		Apologies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Apologies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Could be a Chinese person.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Obviously, in Alex's brain, it would present as a Muslim.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It could be a Chinese person.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which you are most afraid of as a white.
unidentified		Well, black hole is probably the best way of putting it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I love this because what we've done now is we've accidentally walked ourselves backwards into what I think would be the perfect Ben Garrison cartoon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there's a black hole and we name the black hole everything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Muslims and then there's rays coming out that kill yourself and then there's planets that are like Peter Schiff, like all of that shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Throw him in there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, why not?
unidentified		Why not?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's riding a bar of gold off in the distance for no reason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		And then Trump is the sun.
		Yeah, why not?
		Why the fuck not?
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who gives a shit?
		I love it, though, man.
		That's nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whew, that's bananas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And also, it's a really fun way to end an episode where Alex is like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, we spent the beginning of this with him defending himself about these very real lawsuits that are happening, and we discuss the ins and outs of that to the best of our ability as outsiders.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're not involved in his court cases or anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We probably should be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You should call us to the stand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'd be great at it.
		We know what we know and what we don't.
		We don't pretend to.
		We can discuss that.
		And that was the beginning of it.
		And then in the middle of it, he got into some clunky bullshit, some of it about the Amish.
		And then at the end of the episode, he had a complete weirdo on to talk about chicken and make a legally actionable claim.
		I don't mean to undersell that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a crime.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know that he's already in the past said the same stuff in periscopes, but this is different.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a crime.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is different.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a crime.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex should not have let him on the show.
		Uh-uh.
		Because he knew he was going to say this shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of what he does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's every reason as a show person, as someone who's curating a presentation, when you have a guest on, you have a slight responsibility to understand what they're going to say.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if they commit libel, it's a little on you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Libel is usually an issue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a little on you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Usually.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that libel is in print.
		Slander is when you say it, right?
		There's a difference.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Eh, whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's all the same shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, there's probably some crimes here.
		I don't know.
		Alex is so bogged down in lawsuits that who gives a shit?
		He's going to be busy for a while.
unidentified		For sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably just going to let this one slide.
		Seth Green doesn't seem litigious.
		Who knows?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's probably fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, I look forward to seeing the next season of Chicken, which is a very different show, apparently.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And never hearing about this dude ever again.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I doubt he's going to be in the new season of Robot Chicken.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you how to do it.
unidentified		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It hasn't worked in two years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Coming in to talk shit on his erstwhile friend.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, Jordan, this has been a lot of fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This has been a lot of fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, this went a little longer than expected.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, it happens.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we have a website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, our show went a little bit longer than expected?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think we called that out at the beginning of the show.
		Pretty much.
		We have a website, knowledgefight.com, people can go to to find stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, you could also go to fillyourhand.com, or you could go to our Twitter page.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's at knowledge underscore fights.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, not the best Twitter presence in the world.
unidentified		Uh-uh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we're all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Especially since I completely deleted my social media presence entirely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I am not good at anything social media-wise.
		But we're on Facebook.
		Indeed, we are the only place where I actually think that there is consistent activity and regular engagement.
		And I'd also like to say, since we put the word out that the place to go is the group, Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.
		We've seen a lot of traffic come in.
		We've seen some wonks and some listeners come on board who were probably just hanging out on the page and not knowing where the action was.
		And I appreciate it.
		We're up over 300 deep in that group now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hell yeah.
unidentified		Which is great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it's not that many people total, but it's fucking awesome.
		For our weird community, non-fan-having comedians, one who's quit doing a stand-up in the middle of Chicago recording in a bedroom.
		That's pretty fucking good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So thank you all for joining.
		And if you would like to keep more tabs on what's actually happening, the group is the way to go.
		Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
		It's a private group, but you can request, you'll get in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		iTunes.
		iTunes, OiTunes.
		OiTunes is where you can go.
		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're on Spotify.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're not on Spotify.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think all it would take is just me clicking a button.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what's actually?
		No, that's not true because I already submitted us for Spotify.
		They were super specific in who they chose.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're specify.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, we don't do a great job with that stuff either.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's true.
		Anyway.
		What else do we got?
		It's your turn.
		It's my turn.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I just say that every time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
		Well, I will tell you this, and I don't know why it is, but this entire episode, to me, seems like it's one guy's fault.
		And I'm going to go with for being such weak bullshit that Alex had to call in this motherfucker, Mark Dice.
		Go fuck yourself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine with that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified		I'm a huge fan.
unidentified		I love your work.

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