Today, Dan tells Jordan about a couple of 2009 episodes of The Alex Jones Show that go to some profoundly weird places. What is the connection between 10th amendment state representatives and meth houses? Who is "The Living Man?" Do hardware stores sell guns? Tune in to answer all these questions and more.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Hello. | ||
| Dan, how would you describe this podcast to somebody who, perhaps for the first time, for some reason, they found this podcast, this specific episode? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Had never heard our show before. | ||
| That'd be tough. | ||
| Already, five minutes in, baffled as to why other people listened to it and somebody recommended it to them. | ||
| I would say, first of all, mind your business. | ||
| Stop being a judgmental asshole five minutes into the show. | ||
| Dan, that's an aggressive way to start. | ||
| And I'm sorry, because I kind of judge things pretty quick, too. | ||
| All right, but now that's just too supplicant. | ||
| I'm sorry I blew up at you. | ||
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All right. | |
| Look, this is a podcast where me and my friend Jordan here, we sit down and we talk about Alex Jones. | ||
| Land it. | ||
| Sometimes we talk about him in the present day. | ||
| Land it. | ||
| Sometimes, like today, we talk about things he's done in the past. | ||
| Bring the plane into the runway. | ||
| Other days. | ||
| Usually on Wednesdays, we sit around and talk about other people, like Secret Space Program weirdos. | ||
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Perfect. | |
| And Jim Baker, those sorts of con men. | ||
| I want to listen to this show now. | ||
| It's pretty good. | ||
|
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laughter laughter That's the show. | |
| So anyways, you know a lot about Alex Jones and I know what you tell me about. | ||
| That's our specific dynamic. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Like I said, Jordan, today we're going to be back in 2009. | ||
| Continuing that, we'll be going over February 19th and 20th in 2009. | ||
| I was hoping to cover a wider swath of time because we're trying to get to this tea party breakout. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We're on seven or eight episodes and we've been on two weeks. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Weird shit keeps happening. | ||
| That's the beauty of Alex Jones! | ||
| I thought for sure we'd be able to get through three days. | ||
| And as I was going over the episodes, I'm like, nope. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| This episode has too much fun in it. | ||
| So I'm very excited to tell you about a couple of the things I've learned. | ||
| But there's one thing I'm more excited about. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And that is giving a shout-out. | ||
| Ooh, is it a new donor? | ||
| Actually, today it's not a new donor. | ||
| It is a donor who's taken their donation and bumped it up a little bit. | ||
| Hell yeah! | ||
| Very excited about this, gentlemen. | ||
| He met us down in Austin, so it's not even a stranger. | ||
| Very thrilled to be welcoming Chris into the realm of the globalists. | ||
| Chris, thank you so much. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy shark! | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you so very much, Chris. | ||
| You were a delightful man. | ||
| If you would like to support the show, you can do so by going to our website, knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Slightly remodeled now. | ||
| Didn't do all that much, just took some of the clutter down. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| But there's still a button there that you can press to support the show. | ||
| Frankly, at this point, we should just have, seeing as how little we've updated a lot of content, we should just have a website that is the button. | ||
| Just a giant click this button to donate. | ||
| You were saying that you don't have many hot takes for your blog. | ||
| Lately. | ||
| And then all my writing about Alex has been so focused on this side project that I'm working on that I don't want to write a blog post about him saying something stupid. | ||
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Right. | |
| Just the impact value isn't that. | ||
| We should just change the website to a big flashing support the show. | ||
| Please support the show. | ||
| Please support the show. | ||
| I have takes. | ||
| I want to write things. | ||
| And then I get, like, I finish it. | ||
| And I read it back, and I go through the rest of the internet, and I'm like, who the fuck cares what you think? | ||
| Why in God's name would you care what I think? | ||
| There are so many people. | ||
| Every time I see Connor Friedersdorf's name in The Atlantic, I'm like, why do we even bother? | ||
| Let's all just quit. | ||
| If that guy is allowed to have a job, fucking we should all quit. | ||
| I bet you also think that his name is a little too long. | ||
| That's my first thought. | ||
| See, now this is why that person judging the show five minutes in, Dead on. | ||
| You are absolutely guilty of the same problem. | ||
| We're only four minutes in. | ||
| And also, Jordan, today is a special day in the neighborhood. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Mr. Rogers is alive again! | ||
| He is. | ||
| We brought him back. | ||
| Did we do that? | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, Fred Rogers. | ||
| He has some thoughts about Alex Jones, I'll tell you that. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| He's going to have to wait, though, because we have an announcement, Jordan. | ||
| This is so big. | ||
| This is so big. | ||
| Oh, yes, this is big. | ||
| For the longest time, we've been flirting around with the idea of being able to take phone calls and having a dedicated phone line. | ||
| And now we do. | ||
| This is going to be a disaster. | ||
| So here's, at least for now, how it can work. | ||
| Since we're not doing a lot of episodes live or any episodes live currently, which we may get back to on a trial basis, maybe. | ||
| But we have a phone line now. | ||
| And people can call in and leave messages. | ||
| And we can play them on the show. | ||
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What? | |
| So for right now, we have a situation where if you call this number at any time, you can leave a message. | ||
| And we might screen them before we play them. | ||
| We also might not. | ||
| There's a low probability. | ||
| So I spent a long time... | ||
| Jordan, going through phone numbers, trying to find acronyms. | ||
| Yes, you were very excited when you found what you settled upon. | ||
| It's not perfect for our show, but I will say that the runner-up, as I texted you, was a phone number that spelled out Tug Fail. | ||
| No, Tug Flub. | ||
| Tug Flub, was it? | ||
| I found both of those. | ||
| I was like, that's a little too risque for our show. | ||
| Two of my favorite Robin Williams movies. | ||
| Flubber and Flipper? | ||
| Tugger and Flub. | ||
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Alright. | |
| So, Jordan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I haven't even told you this. | ||
| Would you like to know what our new phone number is? | ||
| I suppose I would. | ||
| It is. | ||
| American Dialing Code 1. Area Code. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| Just end with American Dialing Code. | ||
| 1. 530 Neon Nips. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| 530 Neon Nips, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Hit us up and leave a message. | ||
| If you can leave us a message with a better name for that. | ||
| No, Neon Nips is real strong. | ||
| That's what they used to call me in high school. | ||
| What are the numbers? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| It's on any phone. | ||
| Who has a rotary phone? | ||
| Those even have the letters. | ||
| I have no idea what the phone number is. | ||
| You know people give the thing to remember and then the actual numbers, too. | ||
| It's like a reinforcement technique. | ||
| We don't need to reinforce shit. | ||
| Leon Nips is so strong. | ||
| Tell me, how do you call Forfeldco? | ||
| Wait. | ||
| For window siding and doors. | ||
| I don't know what the numbers are. | ||
| I will never be able to call them. | ||
| Do you have a phone, bro? | ||
| I'm not going to look at my phone. | ||
| That's the second step. | ||
| That's the second page of Google search results. | ||
| If I were to tell everyone the numbers right now, they wouldn't remember them, but they're going to remember neon nips. | ||
| No, but they would have the tape to reference when they wanted to call. | ||
| They also have a fucking phone that has the letters on it. | ||
| It's a lot of sixes, I'll tell you that much right now. | ||
| That's all I remember. | ||
| Probably should have written it down for your show. | ||
| I'll give you that. | ||
| One. | ||
| American dialing code. | ||
| One. | ||
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Right. | |
| Area code 530. | ||
| 530. | ||
| That's a California number. | ||
| Then, a bunch of sixes, some of which spell Neon Nips. | ||
| Neon Nips. | ||
| N-I-P-S. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Nipples. | ||
| Yeah, we got it, Dan. | ||
| Thrilled. | ||
| Thrilled with this. | ||
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Wait, wait. | |
| It's Neon Nips? | ||
| N-E-O-N-N-I-P-S. | ||
| The S is irrelevant. | ||
| If you dial the number and you add an extra number, it doesn't matter. | ||
| You could throw neon nipples and it would be the same thing. | ||
| The phone stops recognizing it once you've dialed seven numbers. | ||
| See, that's too many numbers, though. | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't matter, though. | ||
| That's how phones work. | ||
| So our number is neon nip. | ||
| Yeah, but nips. | ||
| Well, no, you don't know. | ||
| Oh, that's cheating. | ||
| Cheating. | ||
| I wasn't going to go with... | ||
| You quitter! | ||
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I wasn't going to go with tugflub. | |
| We need to have a vote on this. | ||
| I had spent three fucking hours just looking at phone numbers, and you know what's really hard? | ||
| And you didn't consult our board of directors, which consists of you. | ||
| And then I have a qualifying vote that is not a matter in the end. | ||
| You know, one of the real difficulties, and I don't want to complain about anything, but when you're trying to make a word out of numbers in this way, it's really difficult. | ||
| Standard boggle rules apply. | ||
| Well, zeros and ones don't have letters attached to them, so any phone number that has a zero or a one in it is going to automatically chop up the word. | ||
| So it became this really difficult thing of trying to find cities in America that don't have the first three letters. | ||
| Including a one or a zero. | ||
| So I ended up in Chico, California. | ||
| Chico, California is where we're from. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Skype has a really inefficient system for letting you buy a phone number. | ||
| We're going to have to get an LLC in order to make sure that we don't get sued by wherever it is. | ||
| What's the name of it again? | ||
| Chico. | ||
| Chico, California. | ||
| Well, Chico! | ||
| Welcome your two newest citizens. | ||
| I was hoping to find something from a city that actually had some meaning to me, like maybe somewhere in Missouri, or my dad's from Fresno and Bakersfield, California. | ||
| Maybe I could find one of those numbers. | ||
| We couldn't find anything. | ||
| Neon nips! | ||
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Anyway. | |
| Jordan, are you ready for today's episode? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Okay, so we're going to get down. | ||
| And if you're not ready for today's episode, call American Dialing Code 1-530-NEON-NIPS. | ||
| So, like I said, we're back in the 2009 business, February 19th to 20th, and here is an out-of-context drop from today's episode. | ||
| Crikey, mate, that's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| All right, don't mind if I do. | ||
| I'm not going to lie. | ||
| That was a lot better than I would have expected. | ||
| That was a terrible accent. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Terrible accent. | ||
| But from Alex, that, like, grading on a curve. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was not bad. | ||
| Yeah, but he's also sitting with a couple of guys from Australia while he's doing it, so it's a little insulting. | ||
| Oh, so it's offensive. | ||
| Yeah, okay, all right. | ||
| Well, good. | ||
| Then we're still on brand. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So here we go. | ||
| We're starting off in the 19th, and Alex has seen a viral video. | ||
| That he wants to discuss. | ||
| It's of Dick Van Dyke doing a Cockney accent, which inspired him to be worse? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's a guy who has a conspiracy, and this has triggered Alex a little bit. | ||
| Just novelty here. | ||
| There was a viral video on the web a few days ago of someone opening up one of the digital TV converters put out by Magnavox and saying that there was a hidden camera and microphone in it. | ||
| Well, we went out and bought the very same model and opened it up, and it does not have a microphone or camera in it. | ||
| Now, we can say that maybe this guy who put this video out, maybe he did have a camera and microphone in his MagnaBox digital TV converter, but we have some engineers here, degreed engineers. | ||
| And they looked at what was supposedly the camera and microphone and said it looked like it had been stuck on there and was not connected to any real circuitry. | ||
| Because all the circuitry was the same. | ||
| We know what the circuitry does. | ||
| And the camera was not connected to the right type of circuitry. | ||
| So it appears to be a hoax. | ||
| When we're live on PrisonPlanet.tv, near the end of the show, I'm going to show you the TV converter box that we opened up and dug into and document that that's a hoax. | ||
| Because not only do we try to expose the mainstream media when they spin or lie, Or have an agenda. | ||
| It's just as important that we try to keep the alternative media to a high standard as well. | ||
| I mean, you don't. | ||
| But I like the sentiment. | ||
| But you know what's going on here. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| They got their dicks hard thinking, oh shit, we've got a whole new thing to talk about forever. | ||
| And even then they even had to say, we can't do this. | ||
| Now, that is a good instinct on your part, but it's slightly incorrect. | ||
| One of Alex's big claims to fame is from like way early in his career. | ||
| He on air opened up like a cable box and showed that there was like a microphone inside or something along those lines. | ||
| He talks about it. | ||
| A lot. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Like it being one of these things that was like, it was one of my first rebellious acts and they told me they're going to arrest me if I did it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And of course it's from like way too far back that there's any video of it for me to go find and look at. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But it's something that's really important to Alex's self-mythology. | ||
| So the idea that this guy is putting out a viral video that's very similar to one of Alex's greatest hits is something that he's got to police. | ||
| He's got to police that space a little bit. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And he's taking the opportunity to be like, look, we call out the mainstream media. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| His fake self-righteous bullshit is not fun. | ||
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I do enjoy how low the stakes are now, though. | |
| God, the stakes are so low. | ||
| Some random YouTuber, and he's like... | ||
| I'm taking this guy down. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Not entirely different than it was even just a few years ago from present day. | ||
| Like, in 2015, he was, I believe it was 2015, when he was, like, complaining about that guy with a, like, blog talk radio show. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| With probably, like, 20 listeners. | ||
| So good. | ||
| So, yeah, until he got involved, like, mixed up with Trump. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Like, really, he would have engaged with us, probably, before all this. | ||
| I love his show when he's not trying to defend the fucking... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, if Trump was just a guy and he was defending him, that'd be great! | ||
| It's the fact that he's... | ||
| The stakes are too high. | ||
| But it's fake stakes. | ||
| It's like Trump's stakes. | ||
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Ha ha! | |
| Yeah! | ||
| Alright, guys, we're gonna have to shut this whole podcast up. | ||
| Alright, thank you all. | ||
| Area code 1530. | ||
| Neon nips. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the stakes are an illusion. | ||
| They're not real. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it does feel... | ||
| The stakes feel higher for him, but we know it's all a charade. | ||
| The stakes are higher for us, emotionally. | ||
| Not for me. | ||
| No, I don't mean that. | ||
| I mean, as far as somebody who's listening to it, the stakes are much higher in that... | ||
| I can listen to him talk about this shit or whatever it is that he's talking about in 2009, and I'm so emotionally detached from it because it's random and nonsense. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Whereas now, if he's talking about anything, if he's lying about anything the president's doing, it still reminds me that the president is not going to reunite those fucking kids with their families. | |
| that people have already been deported before being reunited with their kids. | ||
| Like you're defending a true legitimate monster who will go down in history. | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| Sears Tower is really big, and you can't even see that from more than three miles away or so. | ||
| It's going to have to be real tall. | ||
| It's going to have to be super big. | ||
| It's going to have to be real tall. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's going to have to be prohibitively tall. | ||
| Well, and as we know, if we build it too tall, God will, of course, feel like, oh shit, they're coming after me. | ||
| They're coming too close. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Again, his feet will hit the pyre. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Dude, I think the issue that... | ||
| What you're articulating is that, like, back then in 2009, a lot of his stuff, his rhetoric is very similar in terms of there's still a lot of bigotry and shit like that, but it's kind of impotent deceit. | ||
| That he's throwing out into the world. | ||
| Whereas now, everything he does is in service of reinforcing and defending a cruel, cruel system. | ||
| And even if he isn't really a part of that system, and he's just trying to attach himself for personal gain, it's still a reminder that that system is there. | ||
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I think that's exactly how I feel about it. | |
| Let's get rid of that and then go back to 2009. | ||
| I've gotten rid of that feeling. | ||
| I'm moving on. | ||
| I'm definitely not bringing some shit into this. | ||
| That's why I like to start the weeks with the 2009 stuff, so we can start on sort of a rosy... | ||
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Then things get worse as the week goes along. | |
| Wednesday, we find out a real weirdo. | ||
| And then Friday, if we jump back to the present day, we all end the week bummed out. | ||
| Bummed out. | ||
| So here, Alex talks a little bit about what happened during the... | ||
| The election there in 2008 and some things that I didn't know about this, and I don't think it's true, but man, if it's true, bad times. | ||
| Troubling. | ||
| I remember hearing rumors that in Connecticut and in Missouri and Illinois that if you were criticizing Obama, the police would threaten to arrest you or would arrest you. | ||
| Then it started coming out in mainstream news, and police went on TV and said, if you talk bad about Obama, we're going to arrest you. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I said, that sounds like Nazi Germany. | ||
| And if anybody had any questions about whether Obama was a carefully packaged corporate fraud, now we know the evidence is in. | ||
| Like, it's been a month at this point. | ||
| I have to stress that. | ||
| The inauguration was, like, literally a month before this. | ||
| You know, there's a difference between criticizing the president and then burning an effigy of him. | ||
| You know, one of those is more of an arrestable offense, and the other one is pretty cool. | ||
| Generally speaking, if I recall the time period immediately following Obama being elected... | ||
| It was more the latter that people were doing, as opposed to the criticizing. | ||
| Like lynching puppets of him and setting him on fire? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| They were usually doing that. | ||
| But I think that's actually even a little bit later than where we are here in February, because a lot of that was part and parcel of the Tea Party protests that broke out. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I know that that image is in people's hearts already a month into his presidency, but perhaps that wasn't being publicly done as much at this point. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't have time-stamped pictures. | ||
| I do have pictures of those protests, but I don't know the dates on them. | ||
| We all keep them on our mantles. | ||
| So, at this point, Alex is so excited about the Obama deception coming out in March. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think it's coming out March 15th, he's announced. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's so excited about it that what he does is he decides to read his voiceover script on air. | ||
| He spends an entire... | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| We're not going to listen to any of it. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| But he spends an entire commercial to commercial break, goes to commercial, comes back, does another half segment, just reading from this script. | ||
| And one of the things that really stuck out to me was like, this is the same topic as Endgame. | ||
| Like, it's all the same shit. | ||
| He's just repeating the same shit. | ||
| He's just plugged Obama in there. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| He's like, oh wait, Endgame, but Obama is a tool of the things that I talked about in Endgame. | ||
| I'm gonna just repeat my material. | ||
| It's like he didn't think that he'd burned that material in Endgame. | ||
| He's a comic who's trying to do Late Night Again with the same sex. | ||
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Pablo Francisco. | |
| It's like, that is dirty pool, man. | ||
| You gotta get new shit. | ||
| We already saw this stuff on TV. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| You're not gonna get any bookings. | ||
| Put it on TV, it's burned. | ||
| So... | ||
| We're going to cut that out, because who needs to listen to that? | ||
| How's the performance, though? | ||
| Does he do a good voiceover job? | ||
| He's definitely hamming it up. | ||
| Has he improved? | ||
| I haven't watched any of his documentaries since Endgame, and I pray to God we never will again. | ||
| Oh, we will. | ||
| I've actually been hankering. | ||
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No! | |
| God damn you! | ||
| We may do that. | ||
| God damn you! | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| It's on par with Endgame, probably. | ||
| But at one point, he does say... | ||
| I wish I did it. | ||
| I wish I would have taken this clip. | ||
| He does say, There's a whole lot of voiceover in this one. | ||
| It's a classic Alex Jones documentary. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So at this point in time, he's released, what, two? | ||
| No, he's released a fuckton. | ||
| He's released a ton of documentaries? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Obama Deception, I think, is his... | ||
| Maybe second to last one. | ||
| He's released like 20 documentaries. | ||
| He's released 20 documentaries? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if you count Loose Change, which he produced, he didn't direct or write that one. | ||
| But yeah, there's like martial law documentaries. | ||
| That was his Robert Evans phase. | ||
| Whenever he was just producing great movies. | ||
| Chinatown, Rosemary's Baby. | ||
| Kid stays in the picture. | ||
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Come on. | |
| All of those great movies directed by Jason Bermas. | ||
| Jason Bermas' Rosemary's Baby. | ||
| Probably he would do another one of those, but the people who are satanic would be very different. | ||
| So, yeah, he's done a fucking load of documentaries. | ||
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Did not know that. | |
| And most of them are, like, we should never cover them, because they were made on, like, shoulder cameras. | ||
| Like, they're... | ||
| Very DIY. | ||
| Like shoulder cameras from the 90s. | ||
| Yeah, like stuff that I was using for my broadcast production class in high school. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And I'm not saying that to shit on him. | ||
| I respect the hell out of that hustle. | ||
| Because when I was in high school, I... | ||
| We did the school TV news program. | ||
| Because you were the coolest. | ||
| So cool. | ||
| In doing it, we had those cameras you'd put on your shoulder. | ||
| They were super heavy. | ||
| You had to white balance them and everything. | ||
| And then they recorded on VHS tapes. | ||
| And in order to edit, you had to go from VHS tape to tape. | ||
| The editing was a disaster. | ||
| It was so time-consuming compared to digital editing stuff. | ||
| And the fact that Alex Jones really put in the time to do all that, I tip my cap to it. | ||
| The content is terrible. | ||
| You know, that's why professional operations used beta long past the beta wars had ended. | ||
| Because beta had time stamps on it. | ||
| So it would make editing a lot easier for you. | ||
| Even back then, you knew beta was cuck. | ||
| Even back then. | ||
| I didn't give a shit. | ||
| So I do want to do another documentary. | ||
| Let's just do one about the beta VHS wars. | ||
| Oh, I'd do that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Any day. | |
| So, Jordan, what city do we live in? | ||
| Chico. | ||
| Now we do. | ||
| Now we do. | ||
| We live in Chicago, Illinois. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And at this point in the show, Alex gets a call from a guy named Steve from Chicago. | ||
| And I'll tell you, Steve from Chicago is from Chicago. | ||
| But... | ||
| He's one of the bad people. | ||
| Is he the most from Chicago you can be? | ||
| He sounds a bit like he's from Chicago. | ||
| Okay, alright. | ||
|
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Here we go. | |
| But also, he also spiritually sounds like one of those assholes that you meet who's from Chicago. | ||
| Oh, that we know. | ||
| Okay, okay, okay. | ||
| Let's go ahead and talk to Steve in Chicago. | ||
| Welcome, Steve. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
|
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Hello? | |
| Yes, sir. | ||
| I hear a lot of music. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| I'd like to say about that cartoon that it's just Lenten cartoon satire about the chimpanzee. | ||
| This is like an editorial cartoon that had come out where Al Sharpton is a chimpanzee. | ||
| So keep that in mind. | ||
| He's going to be pro Al Sharpton as a chimpanzee. | ||
| You might just be using that as a jump off. | ||
| Okay. | ||
|
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But what I'm calling about is that... | |
| There's an article in the Washington Times. | ||
| There's an article. | ||
|
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It's talking about the holder says U.S. cowardly on race. | |
| Back about six months ago, or whenever it was, I kind of figured that this was going to be a black power grab, and I said it was. | ||
| I could excerpt some of the comments here, criticism from conservatives. | ||
| Tom Fenton, conservative judicial watch, he says, quoting, I think we're going back... | ||
| Going to revert back to the old days of the federal government pushing quotas and race-conscious policy, public policy. | ||
| Yeah, that'd be terrible. | ||
| Steve, I hear you and I appreciate your call. | ||
| I'm going to say this about it. | ||
| You know, we don't let the news govern what we talk about here. | ||
| And he just rambles from there. | ||
| But I do admire... | ||
| Steve, I hear you, and you're going to drop the N-word soon, so I'm going to let that one go. | ||
|
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We're real close. | |
| We're real close to a Chicago N. Like, I love our city. | ||
| I was down at the bar the other day, and this... | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Steve, we're going to have to let you go. | ||
| We're going to have to let you go. | ||
| Bye, Steve. | ||
| There is a real... | ||
| A branch of Chicago racism that is very rich in character, and you can feel it coming from him. | ||
| I don't know how to describe it, but when I was listening to this, I was like... | ||
| Ooh, boy, I've smelled that before. | ||
| That took me to so many different dive bars. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I heard that voice and I was like, oh, my God, I'm having flashbacks to this dive bar and this dive bar and that dive bar. | ||
| Places where you accidentally did stand up and then accidentally stayed after the show. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Should have gone to bed. | ||
| Instead, you're talking to Steve from Chicago. | ||
| Hey, you're a real funny guy. | ||
| Also, Steve's not from Chicago. | ||
| You're a real funny guy. | ||
| Let me ask you. | ||
| Have you heard this joke? | ||
|
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No! | |
| No! | ||
| Steve's from, like, some sort of weird suburb, by the way. | ||
| I don't think he's from Chicago. | ||
| I'm guessing. | ||
| He sounds Chicago, though. | ||
| He does. | ||
| He does. | ||
| But that voice extends to some of the suburbs. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Anyway, my issue here is, like, I think Alex let him talk too long. | ||
| I think once he said, this is a black power grab, Alex should have been more like, ah, right. | ||
| Because you can tell his response has nothing to do with what the guy's bringing up. | ||
| Yeah, his response is... | ||
| He's like, I gotta spin this. | ||
| What am I gonna say? | ||
| We don't listen to the news on my news program. | ||
| But I do respect that he did cut him off before it got too harsh. | ||
| Because it was gonna. | ||
| That was solid, yeah. | ||
| It was gonna go real bad. | ||
| No, you and I both heard after the first sentence that the N-word was coming. | ||
| It was around the corner hard. | ||
| And it was going to be the Chicago-er, which is even worse than the regular-er. | ||
| It's a deep dish slur. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Not good. | ||
| So, Alex spins his wheels for a bit and talks about nothing, primarily. | ||
| And then he gets back to the topic of race and racism. | ||
| And this gets troubling. | ||
| I assume he got it right. | ||
| Modern multiculturalism constantly points out art. | ||
| So-called differences over pigment in our skin in the name of fighting discrimination and things. | ||
| When I live in the United States, I'm young. | ||
| I'm only 35. I grew up. | ||
| I didn't see a lot of racial strife. | ||
| I didn't hear a lot of racial strife. | ||
| It's the media that hives shit and makes people look at each other different and makes people think about it. | ||
| And we have a lot of problems in this country, and we certainly don't need Eric Holder calling Americans all cowards on race. | ||
| I would say that most of what Alex talks about, about his childhood, is either how many people he had sex with, or... | ||
| How he's never been, and he's never seen whites do racism. | ||
| Well, there's alternating, I've never seen whites do racism, and then I was such a victim of racism. | ||
| Oh, yeah, such a victim. | ||
| And then he also just says a bunch of racist stuff. | ||
| So I don't know how to parse that out exactly, but that is so, like... | ||
| If there is a wrong place to take this, that's probably it. | ||
| Like I said earlier, I admire him shutting down Steve from Chicago, but then you don't have to do this. | ||
| But then he got introspective about it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that was the worst thing. | ||
| He was like, well, I can't let this guy be racist. | ||
| And then he starts thinking about it. | ||
| He's just letting all of his... | ||
| Look, the moment... | ||
| He's like, I'm kind of feeling like being racist. | ||
| You know how racist somebody is whenever they get something so obviously wrong wrong. | ||
| When he said, so-called differences in pigment. | ||
| And it's like, no. | ||
| There are differences. | ||
| There are differences. | ||
| Their skin is different because of pigment. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| That's a normal thing. | ||
| We're all fine with that. | ||
| You don't have to fake politically correct on that one. | ||
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No! | |
| That one you can be fine with. | ||
| We're all cool with that. | ||
| Everybody agrees that there are differences in pigment. | ||
| If you're starting from a... | ||
| Let's put this whole so-called pigment difference out of the place. | ||
| You're like, oh, you're super racist. | ||
| It's a little facetious, a little glib. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| It's preemptive. | ||
| It's too preemptive. | ||
| I would definitely agree with that. | ||
| So, if that was all that happened, and that was all he did in response to this conversation brought by Steve from Chicago, I'd be like, meh, alright, whatever. | ||
| But then he says this. | ||
| You know, there's barrios right here in Austin, Texas with the Latino folks, and they will tell you that they enjoy, they want to move to that area. | ||
| Not all. | ||
| You know, people want to be around. | ||
| Folks that are like themselves. | ||
| Take Canada. | ||
| On the bordering areas where it's French and English. | ||
| You will go there and you will see it's white people who are French and English predominantly, but the neighborhoods are along, in many cases, lines of French versus English speakers. | ||
| And it's not because they hate each other, it's their culture. | ||
| So there's a couple problems here. | ||
| First... | ||
| The French do hate the English. | ||
| Yeah, but also... | ||
| Rightfully so. | ||
| Do you know what the definition of barrio is? | ||
| That Alex is just throwing around all flippantly? | ||
| Legitimately, I might have thought he said Sbarro's. | ||
| These Mexican people want to move into the Sbarro's. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| It's a buffet. | ||
| They're sandwiches. | ||
| And pizza. | ||
| Barrio is the Spanish-speaking quarter of a town or city, especially one with high poverty levels. | ||
|
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Ah. | |
| It's essentially... | ||
| So he said slum. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or a ghetto. | ||
|
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He said slum. | |
| It's the same thing. | ||
| It's like, you know what? | ||
| There's a lot of these Hispanic folks and they want to move into the ghetto because there's people like them there. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| That's where they want to move. | ||
| That's where they want to move. | ||
| It's definitely not a policy of redlining that has existed since... | ||
| I mean, who could have... | ||
| I never have imagined. | ||
| They want to move there, Dan. | ||
| Alex, you're looking at the wrong variable. | ||
| No, they want to move there. | ||
| It's their choice. | ||
| It's their choice. | ||
| Please back up a tiny bit and also think about what exactly you're comparing this to because there aren't barrios for the French or the English speakers in, like, Quebec. | ||
| Well, well, I mean, you say that and you're right. | ||
| So we can move on. | ||
| There aren't poor areas of town that are almost exclusively one ethnicity living there in Quebec. | ||
|
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Oh, you know, the French barrios and the... | |
| Oh, man, that's stupid. | ||
| That's dumb. | ||
| Yeah, where are you going? | ||
| Where do you got? | ||
| What do you got? | ||
|
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I believe that's a play. | |
| The baguettes! | ||
| Take that baguette and go to your barrio and shut up. | ||
| You know... | ||
|
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What do you got? | |
| No, you're just growling now. | ||
|
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No, let that go. | |
| That means I put ham on my baguette. | ||
| It's the only meat I could come up with. | ||
| Wait, poulet. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Chicken. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I know a little bit of French. | ||
| Emphasis on little. | ||
|
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Un peu. | |
| Un peu. | ||
| Although, that did not stop me. | ||
| You are hammering this up. | ||
|
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Jamboning it up. | |
| On Thursday... | ||
| No, not Thursday. | ||
| On Friday, I did... | ||
| I'm not going to get over Jeanne Bonning it up. | ||
| That's pretty good. | ||
| That's pretty solid. | ||
| Might have enough shirts. | ||
| That's a new... | ||
| Yeah, that's our new thing. | ||
| If only we had endless shirt possibilities. | ||
| But on Friday, I was like... | ||
| If only we had shirt possibility. | ||
| Yeah, single shirt possibility. | ||
| I might have to move at the end of this month. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| My living situation is a little bit up in the air right now. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And it's causing the... | ||
| I was legitimately on websites doing conversions of euros to American. | ||
| I believe the text I received was that the rent in Stockholm is prohibitively high. | ||
| Yep, that's another. | ||
| Well, I looked at a number of countries, and I was blown away at how expensive it is to live in Sweden. | ||
| You get healthcare. | ||
| You'd have to get a gig, though. | ||
| You'd have to get a job. | ||
| I got a job. | ||
| That's staying alive. | ||
| Young Jesus! | ||
|
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What up? | |
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Too silly. | ||
| Let's get back on track. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| Well, it's just sort of like trying to dance around, not talking about Alex being more racist. | ||
| Massive racist. | ||
| But he does. | ||
| He does continue his thoughts, and it leads to this. | ||
| And we do see people working together and living together and getting along and going out to restaurants together. | ||
| But we don't, you know, it says we need to talk about race at work. | ||
| We need to, you know, I find that that actually causes problems. | ||
| How about we all just be friends? | ||
| How about we not talk about what color people are all day? | ||
| But see, the establishment wants to inject that into the debate, inject that into the debate, inject it into the debate, so they can then get all this white guilt going, and then attach different government policies and programs onto that, so we can all be sharecroppers on the plantation. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Just a huge distraction and diversion. | ||
| I would say you shouldn't talk about race at work. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| You, individually. | ||
|
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For sure. | |
| That will cause problems. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think for people who are emotionally equipped to deal with it, who don't have a massive chip on their shoulder and think that anybody who's talking about race relations and systematic racism and power imbalances are just trying to create white guilt. | ||
| I think if that's in your worldview, you probably aren't ready for it. | ||
|
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But... | |
| Everyone else, I think, could handle it. | ||
| And I think that conversations about race are not like, hey, look at you. | ||
| Look at that skin on you. | ||
| That's not what the conversation is. | ||
| Look at your so-called pigment. | ||
| It's not about some sort of weird, like, aren't we different? | ||
| It's about like, hey, it'd be interesting to understand how you see the world. | ||
| On an empathic level, like understanding the things that go on in people's lives that you don't have access to because it's not part of your experience. | ||
| Like, I was just reading a story. | ||
| It happens all the time, and it just keeps on repeating over and over and over again. | ||
| I saw a story just on... | ||
| And the last week on Democracy Now! | ||
| about a girl who was eating lunch at her college and someone called the police because they said that she didn't look like she belonged. | ||
| It was just a black student. | ||
| And she posted about it. | ||
| It was like, the only thing I was doing was being black. | ||
| Being black while eating. | ||
| Well, but I know that these stories keep happening and it's almost redundant to bring them up. | ||
| But there are those things that are outside of your experience. | ||
| And if you don't talk to people about racial issues or you shy away and think everything is... | ||
| Well, just on Saturday, my girlfriend and I, my parents came up to visit and we went out to eat lunch with them. | ||
| And afterwards, we had to continue talking. | ||
| Because, you know, families and stuff. | ||
| It's polite. | ||
| And my girlfriend just told my parents, because she grew up in South Africa during apartheid. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| And so she told my parents the story where this black person who worked on their ranch, because that was just how everybody did stuff at the time, was bitten by a snake. | ||
| And her dad runs out and calls 911, and the ambulance that shows up says, oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| We don't handle black patients. | ||
| You're going to have to take them to a black hospital. | ||
| And my parents just heard that and were like, What? | ||
| Racism? | ||
| I never even... | ||
| I saw their faces and it was legitimately they never thought it was real because they'd never heard of a person who had experienced it telling them before. | ||
| There's less of an awareness of those things because you've never sought them out or you've always been defensive whenever you've heard them. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And it's a troubling, sad state of affairs. | ||
| And it doesn't apply just to race. | ||
| It applies to sexuality, gender, nationality, all sorts of immigrant status, all those sorts of things. | ||
| They made me feel like, genuinely, if I just brought all of my friends from varying backgrounds in to talk to my parents and tell them one story, in a week they'd be like... | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| I think there might be something to this whole liberalism thing. | ||
| We've made a huge mistake. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| We are years behind on this thing. | ||
| Wait a second. | ||
| So, you're telling me that gay conversion therapy not only didn't help, it made you want to kill yourself? | ||
|
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Oh, shit. | |
| I thought it was super chill. | ||
| I thought it was great, because God! | ||
|
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Ah, damn. | |
| Remember when God was there? | ||
| Oh, damn. | ||
| Oh, God wasn't that gay conversion therapy. | ||
| It was just violence. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And sexual abuse. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| Yeah, so I mean, I guess to put a button on all that, because we're out of the racist chunk for now, although there's another one coming up, don't get me wrong. | ||
| There's just a lack of willingness to engage. | ||
| That's all I hear from guys. | ||
| All these narratives are just someone who just is like, this is my opinion. | ||
| I'm going to take it as an affront on myself when anyone tells me anything that is outside of whatever I believe. | ||
| And also, I'm super not mad that the president is black. | ||
| I just don't like him for other reasons. | ||
| Totally not mad that he's black. | ||
| Zero madness about him having a so-called different pigment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He goes on this really long thing about the problems that he has with Obama, and what he spends the most time on is the idea that Obama said that he wasn't going to be having a bunch of lobbyists in his administration, and then there were lobbyists that popped up. | ||
| And I would say... | ||
| We agree. | ||
| Fair play. | ||
| Yeah, I'm on board. | ||
| Fuck that guy. | ||
| Right, but if that's what you spend the entirety, like, almost the entire time he's complaining about specifics about Obama, there is, like, he said he was going to bring the troops home day one. | ||
| And maybe he aspired to, but then when he got in, he realized he couldn't. | ||
| That would be a rebuttal to that, but also I agree, it sucks that he wasn't able to follow through with that. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| But in terms of the lobbyists, that's what it meant. | ||
| Closing Guantanamo, of course. | ||
| But he might have also realized the logistical nightmares of that. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| Like the quagmire of legal issues that would come with just letting people out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which I think he still should have done. | ||
| Take the hit. | ||
| Bite the bullet and make things as right as you can. | ||
| I mean, that's the thing. | ||
| We can re-litigate Obama's presidency for forever. | ||
| And we can imagine what we would do in that situation, but we don't possibly understand exactly the game that's been played. | ||
| But in terms of the... | ||
| What was I saying? | ||
| The people... | ||
| I keep coming up with sponsors. | ||
| I know. | ||
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Sponsors? | |
| Coca-Cola. | ||
| Lobbyists. | ||
| Lobbyists. | ||
| Sponsors? | ||
| So with the lobbyists, that's one of his chief complaints about Obama. | ||
| He should have the same complaint about Trump. | ||
| Oh, you think? | ||
| So it just rings false to me. | ||
| I don't think that everything is just because it's a black president, but I can't get away from that has to be a part of it. | ||
| The way he interacts with race... | ||
| The way he feels about being made to feel guilty about white stuff and the fact that his complaints about Obama are things that he should complain about Trump for, and we'll get to a fucking huge one in a little bit, but it just doesn't track for me. | ||
| There has to be a bigger reason, and it's not that Trump is against the globalists. | ||
| It doesn't track for any reasonable human being. | ||
| No. | ||
| There's zero way to look at Trump as president and not think, Oh, this is because a black guy was president. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the white had to fucking rise up or whatever it is. | ||
| Fucking... | ||
| We're aliens. | ||
| So, speaking of aliens. | ||
| Get rid of us. | ||
| Speaking of aliens. | ||
| Nice transition. | ||
| The thinker, Alan Watts, often talks about aliens. | ||
| Oh, not Rodan. | ||
| The alien Rodan from Godzilla? | ||
|
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The alien Rodan? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| The space monster Rodan. | ||
| Also the rapper from the Monster Island Czar's. | ||
| Second rap reference. | ||
| What's the third one going to be? | ||
| Talking about the sculptor, but fine. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Oh, I didn't realize that the... | ||
| What do you mean you didn't realize that? | ||
| I didn't realize that the Godzilla monster had artistic talent. | ||
| Was he an alien? | ||
| Or was it an alien? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think it was a... | ||
| Which one was Rodan? | ||
| Rodan wasn't the dragon. | ||
| No, that was King Ghidorah. | ||
| Yeah, that was definitely King Ghidorah. | ||
| That was the three-headed space monster, King Ghidorah. | ||
| No, King Ghidorah came from a volcano. | ||
| It wasn't from space, it was from deep within. | ||
| Oh, he's from space. | ||
| He's from another planet. | ||
| The monster is zero. | ||
| Have you not seen Destroy All Monsters? | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| Trying to think. | ||
|
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Here we go. | |
| Mothra was a moth. | ||
| Mothra was actually the... | ||
| Mothra was awesome. | ||
| Mothra was the protector of Earth. | ||
| Mothra was the protector of Earth. | ||
| That was a big part of Mothra's backstory, is that he had light powers and shit. | ||
| Yeah, it was a big deal. | ||
| I don't want to get into this. | ||
| I have a lot of thoughts about the theme from Mothra. | ||
| About the cast of characters in the Godzilla universe? | ||
| Well, that too. | ||
| But also that the theme of Mothra was specifically sampled. | ||
| By Pharaoh Monch. | ||
| We're not doing this again. | ||
| We're not doing this again. | ||
| We've done this before. | ||
| We're not doing this again. | ||
|
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I know. | |
| That's why I tried to stop myself. | ||
| I just wanted... | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Anyway, Alan Watts... | ||
| That's where that started. | ||
| Yes, there we go. | ||
| ...is not on this episode. | ||
|
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God, I want Alan Watts on Infowars so bad. | |
| Every time Alan Watts is on, I get a little bit like, man, what would that combo be like with Alan Watts and Alex Jones? | ||
| The Art of Zen. | ||
| But Alan Watts is on. | ||
| And I will say that I think I've probably made this point before, but I think that Alex got a lot of his early narratives from Alan Watts. | ||
| I think that he is responsible for a great deal of the fake... | ||
| Source information that Alex uses in Endgame because their interview is just rehashing Endgame shit. | ||
| And I'm pretty sure the last time we talked about him, we had the exact same conversation. | ||
| The lights just went out a little bit. | ||
| Everything should be fine. | ||
| I mean, my recorder is on a battery and everything. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I don't think that... | ||
| Alright. | ||
| That was odd. | ||
| It did that earlier today, too. | ||
| If I were Alex Jones, I'd be like, hey, it's the globalists coming to get us trying to turn off the lights. | ||
| I wish I was exploitative. | ||
| Yeah, no, I think it was just like a power. | ||
| This house is also kind of shit. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You know, it's just one of those things. | ||
| Maybe it's a good thing to... | ||
| That's why I want to go to France. | ||
| It might be a good thing to move to France. | ||
| We've got a phone number now. | ||
| I can just call in and we can do the show. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah, or we could both move to Chico, California. | ||
| I think Neon Nips also translates in French. | ||
| Neon Nips. | ||
| So, Alan Watt... | ||
| Also, the thing that really stuck out to me, and because we covered it so much in the endgame coverage, which if you want to go listen to that, you can. | ||
| It's in the archives. | ||
| I think we learned our lesson on the last episode of doing too much. | ||
| We covered this already. | ||
| But it's interesting because Alan Watt has a very specific reading on the Club of Rome. | ||
| And because I've read their shit, I know that he's wrong. | ||
| But I also know that it's exactly what Alex puts out. | ||
| So I have a working theory that Alan Watt is the one who has led him astray. | ||
| Down that path. | ||
| So he's Alex's Pez. | ||
| Like, Alex is a Watt dispenser. | ||
| Yeah, a little bit. | ||
| And it's interesting because Alan Watt is in the same vein as Alex Jones, absolutely, but he's much less famous. | ||
| So there is this weird thing where he's the less famous one, but he's also clearly the one who's like a pipeline for narratives. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's kind of like if you're a famous comic and you have a friend who's funnier than you, but he never made it, who's like, you're like, ah, God, you're... | ||
| Never heard of that situation. | ||
| I think it's been in a lot of movies about stand-up. | ||
| So I don't want to talk about the stuff that we've already covered with Alan Watt, but I wanted to let him be represented on this episode. | ||
| And so I have one clip of Alan Watt, which we have not heard before, and I think that this is ludicrous. | ||
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It's also something that was discussed over a hundred years ago at world meetings, and that was the necessity to identify those who could have leadership qualities down the road. | |
| And go against their agenda and get the public to follow them. | ||
| That's also part of this big screening process. | ||
| They've done the same thing with the drugging of children, mainly young males in school with the different drugs they give them, Ritalin, etc. | ||
| These guys are generally very inquisitive. | ||
| They ask lots of questions. | ||
| They're diagnosed as being hyper because they ask questions or they're not happy with the answers they get. | ||
| And they generally have leadership abilities. | ||
| It's never, ever faltered from how it was set down 100 years ago. | ||
| They're right on track with this. | ||
| So, yeah, I mean, you nailed it. | ||
| All right, I mean, that was kind of where I wanted to weave the end of the clip, is like, why are you so focused on men? | ||
| Well, maybe it's because that is what you think that leadership is, that leadership only exists within the male of the species. | ||
| And it's just, it's the same thing. | ||
| When Alex talks about, he certainly talks about white fears more than male fears. | ||
| But he talks about male fears quite a bit. | ||
| Yeah, male fears is number two. | ||
| White number one, male number two. | ||
| Christian is real strong in there, too. | ||
| Christian is real strong in there. | ||
| But that's also more current than in 2009. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, he's absolutely still a weirdo Christian in 2009, but he's not as, like... | ||
| He doesn't hate Islam in 2009. | ||
| He does not trust them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he doesn't hate them. | ||
| Well, but who could? | ||
| He doesn't hate them in the same way. | ||
| It's really weird. | ||
| When we started this 2009 shit, in my head I was going to make a point of every episode being like... | ||
| Alex still does not think Muslims are demons. | ||
| Also has not brought up George Soros once. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, I wanted to keep a running tally of it, but I haven't. | ||
| Like somebody in a prison cell putting down the... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But suffice it to say, he's still not brought up Soros at all. | ||
| But he does talk about other globalists. | ||
| And, of course, at this point, who he thinks the chief head of the globalists are is Rockefeller, David Rockefeller. | ||
| So he says this. | ||
| We'll take David Rockefeller, what he said before the Bilderberg Group, and then a similar statement before the Trilateral Commission in 1991. | ||
| He laid out the elite's ultimate goal. | ||
| He said, quote, the supernatural sovereignty of an international, again quoting, the super... | ||
| National sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in the last centuries. | ||
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Yeah, that's just standard New World Order speak 101. | |
| And of course, you know, the other famous quote from David Rockefeller, who's like the poster child of the bad guys. | ||
| The Omni-Budsman. | ||
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Yeah, as far as we're concerned. | |
| What do you think about that first? | ||
| I mean, especially what do you think of that last word? | ||
| Omni-Budsman? | ||
| I mean, generally it's called an ombudsman. | ||
| Well, he's trying to combine omnibus and omnibudsman, I think. | ||
| But also, I wouldn't call David Rockefeller an ombudsman, because the definition of that is an official appointed to investigate individual complaints against mal-administration, especially that of public officials. | ||
| I don't think he's an ombudsman at all. | ||
| Also, it's just to be even more petty. | ||
| Supranational, not supernatural. | ||
| Oh, even to be further petty, that's not a real quote. | ||
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Ha ha ha ha ha. | |
| Ha ha ha ha. | ||
| Woo! | ||
| Sometimes this is fun. | ||
| That's a quote that has really shaky attribution. | ||
| No one can really pin down... | ||
| It just started appearing a year or two after the 1991 Bilderberg Conference. | ||
| And the people who were pushing it the hardest and the most from people who have gone in and tried to figure out where did this quote originate because it's not recorded anywhere. | ||
| It's not in any solid reporting. | ||
| It was pushed very strongly by... | ||
| The National Front. | ||
| A publication run by the National Front. | ||
| Which is the French political party that was run by Marine Le Pen's dad. | ||
| Who was a Nazi. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| People say Nazi. | ||
| And what they mean is Vichy Soise. | ||
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That's a soup. | |
| Dude, I don't. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Isn't it wild? | ||
| I just want Alex to fucking pick a side on the Nazi issue once and for all. | ||
| Why is it that earlier? | ||
| Why is it like, oh, that sounds like Nazi Germany. | ||
| And then later on he's like, I love Hitler. | ||
| Like, just fucking, if you're gonna do the Nazi thing, then just embrace it or walk away from it. | ||
| Don't live in this half-measured bullshit. | ||
| I think that's what all Nazis have to do, though. | ||
| Because everyone... | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And if you can find... | ||
| Apparently the Portland cops are far for Nazis and very anti-anti-Nazis. | ||
| I saw some weird footage of that protest. | ||
| Yeah, it's so strange that law enforcement would be on the side of white supremacists. | ||
| It's almost like there's a concerted effort within the community. | ||
| I mispronounced weird. | ||
| I meant predictable. | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I read that Guardian report and I was like... | ||
| Oh, you guys are surprised, aren't you? | ||
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Come on, man. | |
| Come on, man. | ||
| Come on, guys. | ||
| So, Alex has a couple of film crews in the studio at this point. | ||
| Because apparently the IFC is doing an episode of something about conspiracy theories. | ||
| The Independent Film Channel. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I have no confirmation of them actually being there. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He also has this... | ||
| He could just be making this up. | ||
| He also has this Australian film crew that he does that impression of Australians to. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Who are doing a show called Conspiracy Hunter. | ||
| Which I tried very hard to find online. | ||
| I searched IMDB. | ||
| I searched the name of the show. | ||
| The only thing that came up, if you search the show, number one answer on the board, Bogan Hunter. | ||
| Which I think might be very offensive. | ||
| I'm not from Australia, but I think that might be super offensive. | ||
| Well, the reason that it didn't become a show is because it was actually about a guy who hunted conspiracy theorists and Alex killed him and ate him so they couldn't make the show. | ||
| That's entirely possible. | ||
| You can't make a show about a conspiracy hunter if he gets killed by his first conspiracy hunter. | ||
| The Van Helsing. | ||
| The shitty Van Helsing conspiracy theories. | ||
| I would posit a different scenario. | ||
| And that is that these guys were working on spec. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they were trying to make a show that didn't have a home on any channel, and then they got the footage together, and people were like, nah, not buying this. | ||
| Too soon for the History Channel, guys. | ||
| You should have waited around another five years, and then you'd have been fine. | ||
| No, because on the History Channel, Alex was on that show Brad Meltzer's Decoded. | ||
| I think that's something Meltzer. | ||
| There's two guys named Meltzer. | ||
| One is a wrestling journalist and the other is a conspiracy theory dude. | ||
| And I can't remember which one is which. | ||
| Both named Brad. | ||
| No, it's just Meltzer. | ||
| Even more confusing. | ||
| It could be both of Brad Meltzer. | ||
| It could be both Brad Meltzer. | ||
| I only know this because those are two topics that I talk to Marty DeRosa about a lot. | ||
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And that's why they've become completely mixed up in my head. | |
| Much like Gavin and Nigel McGinnis. | ||
| I have no idea which is which. | ||
| Same fucking shit. | ||
| So, I mean, Alex was a consultant on that show, and it was on the History Channel. | ||
| So the History Channel clearly isn't like, Alex can't come anywhere near our shit. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| He also was on Jesse Ventura's show, but I think that was on TruTV. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Also, everyone should go watch that show. | ||
| It's embarrassing. | ||
| But Alex is thrilled that he has this film crew in studio, and he accidentally let something slip that works into one of my theories. | ||
| That had been, up to this point, kind of vague. | ||
| I'm lying about everything. | ||
| No, that's not vague. | ||
| That's a very strong theory. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You know, I want to do something in here live on TV, because this is crazy. | ||
| We've got two different crews in here and a bunch of folks out there. | ||
| Guys, rotate this camera around right here and show the boom mic and some of the stuff, and rotate this camera over here around and kind of get the back shot of this fellow with the big camera here. | ||
| This is cool. | ||
| Make it look like a blaxploitation film. | ||
| What's going on in here? | ||
| And plus, people keep wanting to get a tour of the new studios. | ||
| I'm so busy finishing the Obama deception, literally working 18 hours a day many days, most days about 16 and a half, 17, not counting transit time, that I haven't had time to shoot video of the studio. | ||
| The new studio. | ||
| This is only important to me because it works into my theory of they moved into a new studio around the time when oil was through the roof and Alex Jones' dad had a ton of surplus revenue coming in. | ||
| So, it works from a timeline standpoint. | ||
| I have nothing concrete backing this up, but man, the circumstantial evidence is starting to pile up that Alex was making a lot of money off his dad's oil claim. | ||
| Now, see, it works into my theory that Alex is always actually including transit time, even when he's saying he's not including transit time. | ||
| Oh, no, that part also is hilarious. | ||
| Totally true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 18 hours a day plus not including transit time? | ||
| Come on, Alex. | ||
| Come on, Alex. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| You know it includes transit time. | ||
| And even then, you're dicking around half the time being racist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're just texting weird white shit on your phone. | ||
| Weird white shit? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Now that's our history channel show right there. | ||
| Weird white shit? | ||
| We'll just show episodes of Naked and Afraid and be like, what the fuck are white people doing? | ||
| First episode. | ||
| Miracle Whip. | ||
| Mayonnaise already exists. | ||
| Why do they do this? | ||
| Tasty zip of Miracle Whip? | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Do you sweat macaroni and cheese? | ||
| What is that smell? | ||
| There's a time in my life. | ||
| So, there's some stuff that I ended up having to cut out because of just time and we couldn't enjoy all these clips. | ||
| Alex suggests that Austin... | ||
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What got cut? | |
| Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo is trying to set him up. | ||
| Who, again, we... | ||
| Turns out, like, the only... | ||
| He's the only police chief I've ever liked in my entire life. | ||
| He seems like he's above board. | ||
| Yeah, he seems like a cool dude. | ||
| They also talk about how is this Obama thing going to end a bunch, which is a win. | ||
| I'm becoming president. | ||
| It's been a month. | ||
| But then, even further, he brings in this guy named Bob Dassey, who's an Austin local conspiracy weirdo. | ||
| He's a libertarian weirdo. | ||
| We have talked about him before, and I swear to God, every time you say his name, I hear Bob Fosse. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And I cannot... | |
| Not think about it. | ||
| Like, that's the only thing I think about. | ||
| There's also a great improviser who's been on Improv for Humans whose name is Bob Dassey, and that threw me for a fucking loop. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because there's a great episode with just him and Andy Daly and Matt Besser, and I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| Just gotta have a second life? | ||
| No, that would be great. | ||
| That freaked me the fuck out. | ||
| Do you know what else? | ||
| He's actually Brendan Dassey from Making a Murderer. | ||
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Oh, from Making a Murderer? | |
| Yep, yep. | ||
| It's all the same guy. | ||
| Finding out what the murderer is within what is a murderer. | ||
| Also, unnecessary plug for another podcast, but if you want something really funny, my buddy Kyle Ayers made a podcast called Faking a Murderer, where he lured other comics in to do a podcast about making a murderer, but he never told them that he had not watched it. | ||
| So he just bluffed having watched the show with a bunch of comics. | ||
| So he did a mini-series of that that's really funny. | ||
| That's pretty funny. | ||
| Called Faking a Murderer. | ||
| That's pretty funny. | ||
| I recommend it to everybody. | ||
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All right. | |
| But Bob Dassey is a guest. | ||
| And also Mike Rivero. | ||
| They sort of three-man it. | ||
| They do a little thing. | ||
| Mike Rivero is calling in from Hawaii. | ||
| He's the guy who has the show called What Really Happened with Mike Rivero. | ||
| He ends up maybe a year from now, maybe a little bit past that, leaving Alex and turning on him. | ||
| Because he's like, this guy is a puppet of Israel. | ||
| Mike Rivero hates Israel. | ||
| Yeah, because that makes as much sense as anything else. | ||
| We'll see how this progression works out. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But anyway, he is on calling in from Hawaii. | ||
| Bob Dassey is in studio. | ||
| They've just had a nice bull session where they're saying Obama sucks and it's nothing substantial, nothing meaningful. | ||
| But then we learn that Bob Dassey runs a hardware store. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| In Austin. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| So he runs a hardware store. | ||
| He runs a hardware store. | ||
| We're going to learn about that. | ||
| Like, is it a mom-and-pop hardware store? | ||
| No, it's like a true value. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| Well, then fuck it. | ||
| I don't give a shit now. | ||
| They present it as a mom-and-pop place. | ||
| Yeah, if it was a mom-and-pop place, but if it's a true value, go fuck it. | ||
| He's just a manager. | ||
| He doesn't run a hardware store. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| Franchisee, maybe. | ||
| So he runs this hardware store. | ||
| We're going to learn a little bit about it, but then something far more important happens, and that is Alex maybe has a stroke. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And turns into a character. | ||
| Much like someone might do on Improv for Humans. | ||
| Like if Bob Dassey, the other one, was on Improv for Humans, he might do a character that goes this fucking long. | ||
| Tell folks where your little hardware store is in Austin that don't want to go to the big box stores. | ||
| Well, you know, we're the local True Value franchise here in Austin, and we're at Spicewood Springs Road and 183 in northwest Austin, and we have a hardware store, and we make screens, and we sell Alex Jones videos, and do a little bit of locksmithing, and do all kinds of things. | ||
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What? | |
| You even sell guns? | ||
| We even, well... | ||
| Don't go to the rabble slave with a weapon! | ||
| get the guards disarm immediately one of the slaves has a weapon raise the alarm Real quick, this goes on a while, but, like, this did not, there's nothing that set this up. | ||
| No, this does not seem set up at all. | ||
| No, no, no, but there's also nothing before this that leads you to believe, oh, he's about to do a British guy. | ||
| So Bob Desi himself is even like... | ||
| I'm just trying to talk about screens. | ||
| I'm trying to do a plug here, buddy. | ||
| I'm trying to do screen doors, man. | ||
| And I sell guns at my hardware store. | ||
| That's not a hardware store anymore. | ||
| It's a Texas hardware store. | ||
| Some people call guns hardware. | ||
| I assume every store sells guns in Texas. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| I would like a Whole Foods gun. | ||
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The problem with the selling of guns right now, Alex, is they're awful hard to get right now. | |
| No, you can't have the slaves. | ||
| The serfs having weapons. | ||
| A lot of slaves. | ||
| Barack the quack has made everyone want to buy guns. | ||
| He's been really good for the gun industry. | ||
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Lord Obama is a sensible individual. | |
| Total disarmament of the civilian population under the UN. | ||
| Is there a goal? | ||
| In 2001, July 7th, agreement to disarm all civilians for a power monopoly of the state under UN law is the only sensible system if we're going to carry out eugenics. | ||
| against these slaves. | ||
| They're rabble scum. | ||
| They need to be euthanized immediately. | ||
| And how Are you okay? | ||
| Mike Rivero's still hanging out on hold. | ||
| I was gonna say, Mike has to be like, uh, are you... | ||
| Should I be... | ||
| Asking if you're okay? | ||
| I'm gonna punt on this. | ||
| Is your home life okay, Alex? | ||
| There's a whole other minute of this character. | ||
| That can't be real. | ||
| I'm just gonna cut it off. | ||
| No, we can't do any more of that. | ||
| I think everyone got the taste. | ||
| Yeah, the taste of it is he's ironically saying that he's playing a character about how slaves shouldn't have guns, but he's actually literally saying that... | ||
| Because black people and other disassociated groups have power now, they're saying that white people can't have guns. | ||
| And so it's echoing the very real crimes that white people committed. | ||
| And yet at the same time, they're not actually happening. | ||
| So it's a white person once again saying, oh, of course you're doing this to me because this is exactly what I would do to you. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| So that's the end of the 19th. | ||
| The only other thing that happens is that Alex predicts to a caller, very specifically, that within a few years the dollar is going to go away and be replaced by the Amero, which... | ||
| Oh shit, did that happen? | ||
| Let me check my watch nine years later. | ||
| Nope, still got dollars. | ||
| What is the conversion rate, though? | ||
| To the Amero? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's infinity. | ||
| Is it infinity? | ||
| It's like the Venezuelan currency. | ||
| It's 1 million percent inflation? | ||
| More or less. | ||
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Gotcha. | |
| So now we move on to the 20th. | ||
| This is a Friday. | ||
| So Alex is ready to get the week done. | ||
| And he wants to come pretty correct. | ||
| He wants to come hard on this Friday show. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so you might have noticed that there wasn't a lot of talk of what is the predominant narrative in this patch of February 2009 that we've been going over, which is all of these states with their sovereignty bills. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And stuff like that. | ||
| I thought he'd let that go by now. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| He gets back to it as soon as we start up the 20th. | ||
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But we have more guests. | |
| Representative Leo Berman, who's a senior member of the House of Texas Representatives, has introduced an extremely powerful state. | ||
| Rights Declaration in Texas. | ||
| Why are you using that voice, though? | ||
| Because the listeners of this radio show and others in the last two weeks hammered him and pointed out what was happening, so he got involved. | ||
| He will be joining us. | ||
| What? | ||
| Very exciting tease. | ||
| What is that voice? | ||
| What is his intent? | ||
| I think it's lascivious. | ||
| I don't know what his intent... | ||
| In 2009, I don't know what his goals are half the time. | ||
| He's just... | ||
| Throwing shit out, and I don't understand. | ||
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He's having fun. | |
| What was that British voice? | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He is having fun. | ||
| He's having fun. | ||
| There's no goal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's no goal. | ||
| He's just throwing this shit at the wall. | ||
| Because he knows that it doesn't really matter. | ||
| He knows on some level that what he's talking about isn't real. | ||
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Right. | |
| He's just drumming up theater in order to sell his wares. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And he's got a stable operation going. | ||
| But it's this weird, terrifying ground that he must be walking on, wherein... | ||
| In order for him to stay okay as the economy gets worse, he has to pretend that the economy is going to keep getting worse. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he has to keep being really negative if things are going to stay positive on his spreadsheets. | ||
| For him, yeah. | ||
| It's a very weird line to walk when I'm sure for him he was like, everything's going to be fine. | ||
| I don't really care. | ||
| And that's why he allows himself to do three minute long British impressions yelling about UN treaties that don't exist. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's why he allows himself to do that lascivious voice about this Texas House concurrent resolution that doesn't mean anything. | ||
| Again, what is... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I enjoy untethered. | ||
| I enjoy untethered, Alex, where it feels like he has no agenda with this other than just to like... | ||
| There's an agenda. | ||
| It's bigotry still, for sure. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| But I mean, like, that's always his agenda. | ||
| We can let that go, because now he's just being a... | ||
| Dick for no reason. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Like, the guy's even coming on his show and he's already starting off like, oh, and he comes to us from a resolution. | ||
| Like, fuck you. | ||
| But I don't think that it was an elitist voice that he was doing there. | ||
| I think, like I said, I think it's lascivious. | ||
| Like, it's almost sexy that this bill is getting introduced because Alex and his audience are so powerful that they can get in touch with the Texas state legislature and make them do things. | ||
| That's what I think that voice, that's what it evokes in me. | ||
| I don't understand his brain. | ||
| This is the next day. | ||
| This isn't necessarily British. | ||
| That one sounds British, though. | ||
| Play the clip, though. | ||
| I don't want to play it. | ||
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But we have more guests. | |
| Representative Leo Berman, who's a senior member of the House of Texas Representatives, has introduced an extremely powerful state. | ||
| Rights Declaration in Texas. | ||
| In Texas. | ||
| Because the listeners of this radio show and others in the last two weeks hammered him and pointed out what was happening, so he got involved. | ||
| All right, now, you know what? | ||
| I think it's a lilt. | ||
| I think you're... | ||
| I mistook the lilt for a British accent because we were coming right off the heels of the British accent clip. | ||
| That was on me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| I appreciate that you're a big man. | ||
| I accept my incorrectitude. | ||
| So because we played that clip twice, we have to cut this next one. | ||
| And I don't really care about this. | ||
| He's just talking about how the people are cracking down on Swiss bank accounts. | ||
| And this is an attack on the nouveau riche. | ||
| I thought it was an attack on the Swiss. | ||
| No, but I would also say that most people don't have Swiss bank accounts unless they're hiding something because of Swiss secrecy banking laws and what have you. | ||
| The only reason to have a Swiss bank account is if you want to hide something. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Nouveau riche or not. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| You know what? | ||
| And it's not even popular anymore. | ||
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No. | |
| But the Cyprus bank account is a great way to hide money. | ||
| Unless you are Paul Manafort and you are about to go down for it. | ||
| Or incorporating in Ireland. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| No, incorporating in Ireland is a great idea. | ||
| So that's all. | ||
| So give us a call from Chico, California. | ||
| Over at 530NeonNips. | ||
| So that is dumb. | ||
| Super dumb. | ||
| But this might be dumber. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I mean, it's official Army War College doctrine. | ||
| They put it back out in 2000. | ||
| It's in my book, Descent into Tyranny. | ||
| It's all public. | ||
| This is sick. | ||
| You know where they got the idea for the Matrix? | ||
| This is sick, bro. | ||
| They got that from Pentagon plans. | ||
| Look, I know it sounds insane. | ||
| I know putting satellite tracker boxes in your car and taxing you sounds insane. | ||
| But they say that humans will be put into tanks in hive mind. | ||
| And that for our safety, there'll be no more murder or crime. | ||
| We will live in tanks from birth. | ||
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This is it. | |
| That's the Pentagon's plan. | ||
| So the Wachowskis got it from the Pentagon? | ||
| Well, there's one problem that I think of. | ||
| No, I can't think of any problems. | ||
| The date he specified there is 2000. | ||
| Don't understand. | ||
| The Matrix came out in fucking 1999. | ||
| No, I can't think of any reasons why that would be different. | ||
| Also, a big problem is I read a bunch of interviews with the Wachowski siblings about this. | ||
| About, you know, the inspiration for the Matrix. | ||
| And you think something like that might be hinted at. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Well, I mean, even if you're a Kubrick conspiracy theorist with The Shining, you're still like, well, he hinted at it. | ||
| He's raising his eyebrows all the time. | ||
| Yeah, he's Kubrick. | ||
| And in these interviews that I read, they were all... | ||
| Basically about the ideas of Buddhism, quantum physics, mathematics, a lot of cyberpunk influences and stuff like that. | ||
| Akira? | ||
| Yeah, various animes and comics. | ||
| That they were fans of. | ||
| There's a bunch of direct references to Akita. | ||
| Big time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And to other things to the point of people saying that it was kind of just a remix movie instead of a, yeah. | ||
| And the other thing, too, that is really important is that Alex, the way he's presenting this is the idea of... | ||
| Like, it comes into his concept of predictive programming, where you put out the movie that's the truth, that's science fiction, and it's just preparing the public for the reality. | ||
| And if that were the case, I would argue... | ||
| That the Wachowskis would have had a much easier time making that movie. | ||
| If they just had the Pentagon to go right off of? | ||
| Well, yeah, because if you look at the interviews with them and you hear about what it took to get that movie made, they were not able to secure funding until they had proof of design. | ||
| Like the idea that they were able to actually do the things that they had conceived of and then also had Keanu Reeves signed on. | ||
| Before that, no one would give them funding. | ||
| If it was a predictive programming situation where the government wanted this message to get out, they probably would have fast-tracked it and made it a lot easier. | ||
| In one interview, they're talking about, like, how did you get the funding? | ||
| And I think it was Lana that said, we had to go all over the world to get funding. | ||
| They had to go... | ||
| Insane hoops had to be jumped through in order to make that movie. | ||
| I'm not saying this in some way that's like, thank God they did. | ||
| It's the best thing ever. | ||
| But if you think that that was a cakewalk, you are an idiot. | ||
| Theory. | ||
| Keanu Reeves works for the Pentagon. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| Every movie he's made has been predictive programming. | ||
| Because what else has he made? | ||
| Time travel movies, Dan. | ||
| Underground fight movies. | ||
| The angel movie. | ||
| Constantine. | ||
| He's kind of an angel, right? | ||
| It's based on a long-standing DC Vertigo project. | ||
| What about his band Dogstar? | ||
| Now, Dogstar does not work for the Pentagon. | ||
| That's just joy. | ||
| They work for the heart. | ||
| That's what they work for. | ||
| Look, what was it? | ||
| Shit, now I can't even remember. | ||
| Sweet November! | ||
| No, that one is not from the Pentagon. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They disavowed that project a long time ago. | ||
| I actually emailed... | ||
| What about the Enya soundtrack for Sweet November? | ||
| Was that the Pentagon? | ||
| God, anytime we talk about Keanu, you always bring it back to Enya. | ||
| Now, because we're eventually going to live in a world where John Wick is normal. | ||
| Who can say? | ||
| Who isn't going to be John Wick? | ||
| Only time. | ||
| At the end of John Wick 2, it turns out that everybody in New York is an assassin. | ||
| So that's fine. | ||
| I should say I've not seen John Wick, but I really should. | ||
| Anyway, I'll see it eventually. | ||
| Every single person listening to this podcast just threw their headphones onto the ground. | ||
| Probably, and I'm sorry. | ||
| They threw their headphones to the ground, Dan. | ||
| I'm not a movie guy. | ||
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I know you're not a movie guy, but everybody's a John Wick guy. | |
| Everybody's a John Wick guy. | ||
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I understand. | |
| If it was on Netflix, I would have watched it by now. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Instead, I've just been watching more of that Phil Rosenthal and getting confused. | ||
| Why are you doing that? | ||
| I want to finish it. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I realized the other day that I spend a disordinate amount of my time doing things and watching things that I'm not interested in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which might be the theme of my life. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, absolutely. | ||
| Anyway, Jordan, in this next clip, we meet a guest. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It is not that Texas legislator. | ||
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All right. | |
| But it is another guy. | ||
| Did the Texas legislator show up, though? | ||
| Period. | ||
| He comes in later. | ||
| Okay, okay, good. | ||
| But before we meet him, we meet a Montana legislator. | ||
| And this guy... | ||
| Do they have legislators? | ||
| Yeah, they got a few. | ||
| But this guy, learning about this man, was so exciting because he is a player in a couple of stories that I've told you in the past that I didn't realize he was a piece of. | ||
| They are all fucking connected. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| This is fucking amazing, the connections that come from this guy. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And we'll get to it in just one second. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It is just off the charts what is happening. | ||
| Representative Joel Bonick, Montana. | ||
| Was going to be on in about five minutes. | ||
| He called in a little bit early, so we're going to go ahead and go to him now. | ||
| Montana, Louisiana, Mississippi, Wyoming, a bunch of other states are moving to pass laws that are defending the Second Amendment and declaring state sovereignty. | ||
| Representative, thank you for calling in. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| It's good to be with you. | ||
| Do you know anything about Joel Bonick? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Tons. | ||
| What do you know about this? | ||
| He is from Montana. | ||
| He was elected to be a state legislator. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I would say probably right around 1998. | ||
| That was when the massive red wave in Montana happened. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Definitely not whenever it was started. | ||
| I don't know anything about him. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Well, I'll tell you a little bit about him. | |
| Don't pull your fucking... | ||
| You just lean back in your chair like you're fucking stoked about yourself. | ||
| I'm so excited. | ||
| Disappointed in you. | ||
| This guy is pretty amazing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The interview is a zero. | ||
| The interview is a zero. | ||
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All right. | |
| But he's lived a fucking life, this guy. | ||
| We've been over this so many times in terms of like... | ||
| The people who are putting forth these House resolutions that end up going nowhere. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so... | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Let me ask you a question. | ||
| And I know this is going to be wild. | ||
| Because I genuinely don't know the answer. | ||
| White dude? | ||
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Big time. | |
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| I would say, as they say in the streets, he's mighty white. | ||
|
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So... | |
| It's interesting. | ||
| This guy has a bit of a career of trouble. | ||
| In 2010, Joel Bonick was found guilty of corruption and banned from participating in future elections and ordered to pay fines of over $54,000 for some behaviors. | ||
| So was Lula in Brazil and that was all trumped up bullshit. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| You might be asking what some of these behaviors were. | ||
| I would be interested to know. | ||
| And I'd like to read to you from a Bozeman Daily Chronicle article. | ||
| Quote, They have newspapers out there? | ||
| You are such a bigot against flyover country. | ||
| You're such a coastal elitist. | ||
| A Montana District Court judge on Friday found a former lawmaker from Livingston guilty of corruption and banned him from future elections. | ||
| Great Fall District Court judge Gregory Pinsky ruled that former Representative Joel Bonick, Republican from Livingston, failed to disclose $9,060 in contributions from Western Tradition Partnership, a conservative nonprofit corporation, which conducted a direct mail campaign in support of Bonick's 2010 House District 61 primary election bid. | ||
| The judge said that in exchange for the appearance But that's just standard Republican stuff. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| That's not even... | ||
| You don't have to swear fealty to that. | ||
| They already knew you believed that shit. | ||
| This is going to get so much weirder. | ||
| This is so weird. | ||
| You were writing a note down, so I want to let you get a question out if you have one. | ||
| The only thing I wrote down was $10,000? | ||
| How quaint. | ||
| How quaint. | ||
| Hold on to that thought. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| Hold on to that thought. | ||
| Imagine if corruption only equated to ten grand these days. | ||
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Good stuff. | |
| Hold on to that thought, because it comes back. | ||
| So, when asked to respond to these allegations, he said, quote, they don't like Joel Bonick, and this is how they're beating him up. | ||
| He said in the third person. | ||
| He said that in the third person. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Well, then fuck this guy. | ||
| They hate liberty, and they hate conservatives, and I'm a champion. | ||
| He called the judge a fraud with a political agenda and said he had no plans to appeal to the Supreme Court. | ||
| Admiralty law! | ||
| He had no plans to appeal to the Supreme Court because they're also corrupt. | ||
| My carefully reasoned legal arguments were called Jabberwocky by Pinsky, Bonick said. | ||
| Quote, they treat me like an enemy of the state because their agenda is socialism. | ||
| I don't fear them anymore. | ||
| I'm a political dissident. | ||
| You don't get attacked by the system unless you stand against their injustice. | ||
| I have the courage, and I speak for the little people that are powerless. | ||
| I'm a servant of God. | ||
| I'm in his protection. | ||
| I stand on my integrity. | ||
| That's all a quote? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| From one thing? | ||
| One very defensive man. | ||
| One very, very defensive state representative. | ||
| That's a Shakespearean-level quote right there. | ||
| I need to tell you that this story goes... | ||
| What, that there's trouble in Denmark? | ||
| Oh, there is trouble in Denmark. | ||
| So it seems pretty clear that Joel Bonick is an asshole from that quote. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And from the court case, it seems pretty clear that he accepted illegal campaign funds from the Western Tradition Partnership, but that is not where this story ends. | ||
| In 2012, ProPublica came out with an expose about the WTP, the Western Tradition Partnership, that is downright surreal. | ||
| And I quote, the boxes landed in the office of a Montana investigator in March 2011. | ||
| Found in a meth house in Colorado, they were somewhat of a mystery, holding files on 23 conservative candidates in state races in Montana. | ||
| They were filled with candidate surveys and mailers that said they were paid for by the campaigns and flyers and bank records from outside spending groups. | ||
| One folder was labeled, quote, Montana Money Bomb. | ||
| The documents pointed to one outside group pulling the candidate's strings, a social welfare non-profit called Western Tradition Partnership, or the WTP. | ||
| So, are you tracking what's going on here? | ||
| There's a money bomb. | ||
| And apparently the WTP is keeping records on all of these conservative politicians in order to eventually later on influence them by having too much information about them and their voter base? | ||
| I think they already have the influence based on the sort of arrangement that they've worked out with them. | ||
| They just accidentally, there's a box of evidence. | ||
| Wait, so they accidentally mailed it to somebody? | ||
| It didn't get mailed. | ||
| But it is in a meth house. | ||
| So that is weird. | ||
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Okay. | |
| You curious? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| How did WTP documents wind up in a meth house? | ||
| Well, so before we get to that, the issue here, legally speaking, is that while groups like the WTP are allowed to give money to campaigns, it's against the law for them to coordinate with campaigns or candidates. | ||
| Many, many investigators and experts who looked at the documents recovered from this meth house say that it is a very easy conclusion to come to the WTP. | ||
| It was essentially pulling the strings of various state legislature campaigns in Montana and Colorado, at least. | ||
| So, quote, In the meantime, the group has changed its name to American Tradition Partnership, reflecting its larger ambitions. | ||
| ATB. | ||
| Rafa played on that tour for a while, I believe. | ||
| This month... | ||
| It sent Montana voters a mailer in the form of a newsletter called the Montana Statesman that claimed to be the state's, quote, largest and most trusted news source. | ||
| The front page accused the Democratic gubernatorial candidate of being soft on sex offenders. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| So now they've shifted. | ||
| So they were just like, ugh, that's not going to work. | ||
| We're going to change our names to this. | ||
| And then we're going to pretend to be a news organization. | ||
| A newspaper. | ||
| Montana Statesman sounds like a newspaper. | ||
| Can you just lie like that? | ||
| I feel like you can't just lie like that, right? | ||
| It turns out you can. | ||
| You can just lie like that? | ||
| Like, you can just send everybody in Chicago, if I had enough money, I could send them a newspaper and say it was the most trusted news source in Chicago. | ||
| Despite the fact that it has never existed before. | ||
| Every single comedy show says they're the best show in Chicago. | ||
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Fair enough. | |
| So, I mean, false advertising to damn. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| You're not wrong. | ||
| I want to spoil this for you a little bit because it's just going to make you more mad. | ||
| This ended up going to the Supreme Court, and... | ||
| They won. | ||
| Did they win? | ||
| 5-4, baby. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
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Fucking Scalia! | |
| They ended up ruling that, yeah, because it was before he died. | ||
| It was fucking Scalia, wasn't it? | ||
| God, I want to kill him again. | ||
| It was still the Roberts court. | ||
| Can we dig him up and then burn him again? | ||
| Have the Illuminati kill him again? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| It was an issue where they were like, no, it would infringe on this company's free speech to not be able to give unlimited money and pretend that they're not actually influencing the campaign. | ||
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Citizens United was the best ruling. | |
| So, you might be asking, because this is, you know, 2010 stuff, you might be asking, what does this have specifically to do with boning? | ||
| Quote, the document cited the group's success in 2008, saying in confidential grassroots membership development... | ||
| Saying in a confidential grassroots membership development proposal that 28 Montana state legislatures, quote, rode into office in 100% support of WTP's responsible development agenda. | ||
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Yeah, you know me. | |
| Joel Bonick was first elected to the Montana House of Representatives in 2008, where he weirdly raised $9,060. | ||
| This is a real grassroots campaign. | ||
| For his campaign efforts. | ||
| This is a real grassroots campaign. | ||
| He's all small donors. | ||
| In a race where he was running unopposed. | ||
| That's always going to be a little bit suspicious. | ||
| If you're running unopposed and someone just gives you about ten grand, something fishy is up, generally speaking. | ||
| So they clearly were... | ||
| What was that, for TV ads? | ||
| That's one of the reasons why it's important for me to, like, we gotta hook this story backwards. | ||
| Because in 2009, he's on Alex's show, and you could be telling yourself, like, oh, fuck, this happened later in his career, he got corrupt later. | ||
| No! | ||
| That's why he's in office in the first place. | ||
| He's in bed with this WTP from the jump in 2008. | ||
| He was purchased. | ||
| He was bought for $10,000, and that seems... | ||
| Way too low to be able to buy somebody. | ||
| It seems like it. | ||
| You should be... | ||
| Look... | ||
| But he's probably able to make a lot of other money through other side hustles. | ||
| I'm fine with... | ||
| Selling influence and shit. | ||
| I don't want to be corrupt. | ||
| But there's a number, you know? | ||
| There's probably a number for me. | ||
| I would corrupt myself for some number. | ||
| I just hope it's high enough to feel justifiable. | ||
| I want... | ||
| Ten grand. | ||
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Too low. | |
| I want to be corrupt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And in that, I mean, I want to do an album with Daz Dillinger. | ||
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All right. | |
| Fourth and fifth rap reference. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Anyway, Jordan. | ||
| No, we're going to take those away from you. | ||
| This story is so... | ||
| The Supreme Court has ruled 4-4 against you. | ||
| Ty, it's a push. | ||
| So this story is so fucking weird, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So here's what happened. | ||
| A felon found the documents in a meth house, right? | ||
| And asked around at the meth house, and no one really knew where they came from. | ||
| So eventually he gets to talking to somebody and they say that they think that they were found in a car that someone had stolen. | ||
| So someone stole a car. | ||
| Someone stole the WTP's car. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Accidentally found a treasure trove of documents proving massive corruption on a statewide scale. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And a felon was just wandering around a meth house. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Doing some drugs. | ||
| And they were like, hey. | ||
| Is my civic duty to solve this problem? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I actually think that they were getting a little bit creative, and I like this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So what the dude did is he was looking through the documents, and he contacted the Democratic people who were being smeared by the WTP. | ||
| So then he was trying to run his own scam! | ||
| Well, no, I don't think... | ||
| Not scam. | ||
| I don't think he was trying to extort them or anything. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Just sort of like, hey, you might want to know that this is... | ||
| Finder's fee. | ||
| Finder's fee. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| That's not in the story. | ||
| Give me a Finder's fee. | ||
| ProPublica did not go over the... | ||
| I want a Finder's fee. | ||
| If I'm in a meth house and I find a massive corruption document trove, I'm going to ask for a Finder's fee. | ||
| You should at least get a little... | ||
| You should get a VIG. | ||
| $8,950. | ||
| So he sends it to one of the Democratic people who was the target of these people's campaigns. | ||
| And they're like... | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| And so they just send it to the Montana investigators who already had an open case about them investigating it. | ||
| And so then it came to light, all this rampant corruption. | ||
| And then, of course, it gets escalated. | ||
| It ends up getting appealed to the Supreme Court. | ||
| And the Supreme Court's like, eh, who cares? | ||
| That needs to be a documentary, right? | ||
| That's a whole story. | ||
| That's a whole story, yeah. | ||
| And there's details that I've even left out in terms of like... | ||
| Who was the guy who might have stolen the car? | ||
| I know! | ||
| Whose car was it? | ||
| Whose car was it? | ||
| Was the car stolen or was the guy's car left at the Met House? | ||
| At the Met House? | ||
| Because that guy was doing Met! | ||
| Well, a lot of it is kind of vague and I can't really parse what it is. | ||
| And that's why I leave those parts of the story out. | ||
| There's more to it if you want to go read the full ProPublica story and try and... | ||
| Put the pieces of the puzzle together yourself. | ||
| And if you want more information as to why Brett Kavanaugh should never be allowed to be seated as a Supreme Court justice, let's just go with this bullshit story of what Scalia's brought upon humanity. | ||
| Jordan, I have to talk more about Joel Bonick. | ||
| I'm not nearly done. | ||
| How are you not nearly done? | ||
| Joel Bonick is also friends with the Sovereign Citizen guy who we've talked about in the past. | ||
| He's come to his defense on a couple of occasions. | ||
| He's the guy who I've talked about before. | ||
| He's famous for wearing a tri-corner hat and a bolo tie in court. | ||
| Oh, it's this guy. | ||
| He's the guy who repeatedly called himself the Living Man and accused the judge of not being qualified and under the sway of the Jolly Roger. | ||
| This is the guy who, when the judge leaves the court because she's so frustrated with him, he's like, the judge has left the chamber. | ||
| And goes, this case is dismissed! | ||
| And leaves and goes out to his car. | ||
| And then gets slapped with another contempt of court charge. | ||
| He's a weird guy. | ||
| So he gets charged with a contempt of court for leaving. | ||
| When he had no reason to leave. | ||
| You would have expected so. | ||
| And in his return appearance, he wouldn't stop interrupting the judge to the point where he had to be handcuffed and taken into the observation room for the rest of the trial. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Before he left, he shamed the prosecuting attorney for being an agent of the British because he was a lawyer. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| I don't know if you know this. | ||
| I believe he called him a solicitor, sir. | ||
| No. | ||
| Sovereign citizens believe that some lawyers, because they use the honorific title Esquire, that means that they are British nobility. | ||
| Because Esquire originally was a title under British nobility, and part of their understanding of the Constitution is that the federal government can give no nobility titles to anybody. | ||
| And even though Esquire is not a formal title for lawyers, sometimes they take it on this weird tradition that no one really knows exactly why they do it. | ||
| And so sovereign citizens hate lawyers because they think they work for the British. | ||
| Now, it's amazing. | ||
| On the whole, I think literacy is a good thing. | ||
| There are times, however, where that belief is tested. | ||
| What if this guy couldn't read? | ||
| Maybe we'd all be better off. | ||
| Well, no, he has big binders full of things he's claimed to read. | ||
| See, now that's the problem here. | ||
| I don't want him to be able to read words. | ||
| If he was only capable of, like, signing his ex whenever he was prosecuted for being a dick. | ||
| Making a rebus? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like little designs, little drawings? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I think I'm fine with that. | ||
| Here's what I want. | ||
| I'm saying that let's go back in time and just destroy the Gutenberg press. | ||
| Ooh, Alex would be mad about that. | ||
| I don't want people to be able to read. | ||
| I want people... | ||
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Let me finish my sentence. | |
| Whoever's listening, edit point. | ||
| I want people to be able to read well. | ||
| That's what I want. | ||
| If you are able to just read a sentence, I mean, that's good. | ||
| That's a starting point. | ||
| But if you can't understand what you are reading, you end up being a sovereign citizen. | ||
| You might as well not be able to read in the first place. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's a waste of literacy. | ||
| So now... | ||
| We're not done. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great insult. | ||
| You're a waste of literacy. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| So, Joel Bonick is a complete lunatic. | ||
| Quote, Bonick is no stranger to courtroom fracases. | ||
| That's not a sentence I want ever associated with me, ever. | ||
| Wait for it. | ||
| I want to be a stranger to court from practices. | ||
| Wait for it. | ||
| He was hauled into court last year to answer charges that he'd sped through a roadblock in defiance of an officer's order to keep out. | ||
| Bonnick was trying to get to his house, but his house was in an area where a forest fire was burning. | ||
| And had been evacuated and blocked off due to the emergency. | ||
| As a devoted tea partier and General Wingnut, Bonnick did not recognize the authority of the policeman to keep him away from his private property. | ||
| Also, during his encounter with the officer before he crashed the barrier, Bonnick allegedly reached for a gun that he had with him in the front seat. | ||
| For his day in court, Bonnick brought with him an angry mob of supporters who shouted down the judge and prosecutor in such a menacing way that they fled the courtroom, fearing for their safety. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| No! | ||
| No, no, no, no, no! | ||
| No, no, no, no, no! | ||
| What? | ||
| He's declared himself king of the court. | ||
| I'm the regent of the courtroom. | ||
| He's declared himself king of the court. | ||
| I've seen video of this, but I didn't know it was this guy. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So he declares himself regent of the courtroom and decreed himself innocent of all the charges, and then in parentheses, before the bailiff told him otherwise while brandishing his own weapon. | ||
| Before the bailiff told him. | ||
| The bailiff didn't run. | ||
| The bailiff told him otherwise. | ||
| The bailiff was like, get down, and then pulled out his gun. | ||
| It's such an understatement. | ||
| I love the bailiff told him otherwise, as opposed to the bailiff being like, fucking dude, I'm here all day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I get paid by the hour. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| So, not surprisingly, Bonnick was found guilty and given a fine of just... | ||
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What?! | |
| But he was king of the court! | ||
| He was given a fee of a fine of just over $1,000, which is about what he got from the WTP, and he got a suspended sentence of 10 days in jail, which he didn't end up having to serve, which I think is like... | ||
| I mean, I get, like, that kind of crazy. | ||
| If you see that video, I wasn't able to find it again, but I have seen that video. | ||
| And the fact that he created it is pretty amazing. | ||
| I don't think that a judge and prosecutor should have to flee for their safety in a courtroom, but... | ||
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A guy got killed! | |
| Murdered by the cops for selling cigarettes. | ||
| Jordan, don't bring that into it. | ||
| And this guy's... | ||
| Don't bring that into it. | ||
| Oh, fucking... | ||
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No, you're right, but don't bring that into it because this is fun. | |
| He actually stands up on a table. | ||
| When he declares himself the regent. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| He's up there like... | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Like he's a little boy who just won a basketball tournament. | ||
| A hard yes. | ||
| There's a bunch of his angry mob cheering him on in the courtroom. | ||
| It's bananas. | ||
| Hard yes. | ||
| Like genocide now. | ||
| No, but these sovereign citizen folk, man. | ||
| And I know that... | ||
| I know from all his language, and I'm the regent of this court and all this stuff, he believes in sovereign citizenship, too. | ||
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Oh, yeah? | |
| Much like his friend, the living human, the living man, who wears bolo ties. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| The hardest laugh that I've had probably in the last few weeks. | ||
| I was watching the videos of the living man. | ||
| That should be a horror movie. | ||
| That should be the Slenderman sequel, not a real thing that happened. | ||
| When he has to come back to court, at the time he ends up getting handcuffed and taken away because he won't stop interrupting, he's sitting there and the bailiffs are trying to get him to stand up and he's like, I cannot stand up because if I do, I recognize your authority. | ||
| He's like, you must pick me up. | ||
| And so they pick him up and they handcuff him. | ||
| They don't rough him up. | ||
| They're very nice with him. | ||
| And then as they're about to take him out, he's like... | ||
| I would like you to give my bolo tie to a friend of mine for safekeeping. | ||
| I lost my shit. | ||
| I'm so glad he called out the bolo tie. | ||
| At least he's a man who knows what's important. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| These fucking people. | ||
| They're wild. | ||
| Kill him. | ||
| Kill him! | ||
| Joel Bonick. | ||
| Kill him. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Whenever we get a guest that pops up, I can really sink my teeth into you like that. | ||
| Can you VH1 Where Is He Now Me? | ||
| Joel Bonick? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he didn't get re-elected. | ||
| It was against the law. | ||
| He tried to run for, like, lieutenant governor in 2010 because the sentence didn't come down until 2012. | ||
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Of course. | |
| And he can't run for office anymore. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Ex post facto. | ||
| Can't prosecute me in advance? | ||
| But he lost. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So he's out of public service. | ||
| He is not... | ||
| I don't think he's dead. | ||
| He's back into private crazy. | ||
| He's out of public crazy. | ||
| So at this point, Alex has now had this weirdo on, and he's like, fuck, that was a fresh weirdo. | ||
| Now we've got to get a familiar weirdo on. | ||
| And so he brings on Ted Anderson. | ||
| And this is nuts. | ||
| Because I think Alex is in a bad mood. | ||
| Ted Anderson? | ||
| From Genesis Communications Network. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| A Ted Anderson interview is nuts. | ||
| Because these are all very predictable for the most part. | ||
| It's just people selling gold. | ||
| The second half of this interview is very predictable. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's the gold part. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But generally when Ted comes on, it's all business because it's a commercial. | ||
| That's why he's there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But in this case, Alex isn't like, I don't know what's going on with him exactly, but he's in a bad fucking mood. | ||
| And so he just freaks out at Ted for a while, which is kind of fun. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Well, it's kind of like, I can't do this to a lot of my guests, and I know you're a pushover. | ||
| And you know that I sell all your gold, so I'm going to yell at you for a little while. | ||
| I'm not going to be mad at you, but I'm going to yell at you, and it's not going to be fun. | ||
| He's venting. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| We got a bunch of dirtbag Soviet-type scum, the people that funded the Bolsheviks and the Nazis running things. | ||
| They want to do what they did over there here. | ||
| They want to cull our butt, Ted! | ||
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Yep, and you take away the guns of the people, and then you gain full control. | |
| I mean, that's where you're ready for the concentration camp. | ||
| I've got the Australian news crew here where they had their guns confiscated. | ||
| I mean, you know, I'm sorry. | ||
| Go ahead, Ted. | ||
| I mean, they're arresting the people that are using guns to defend themselves in England and letting the criminals out of jail. | ||
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I mean, that's what's going on over there. | |
| That's what that kind of law would do here. | ||
| I mean, we need to have our weapons. | ||
| They want to set the precedent that citizens cannot protect themselves. | ||
| Criminals are better people. | ||
| Ted, if somebody bashes a vase over someone's head when they're raping them, they arrest the woman. | ||
| They don't want you defending themselves. | ||
| Look, if criminals ran government, They would pass laws where good people couldn't defend themselves from criminals because the low-level criminals are their brethren. | ||
| Ted, I have mainstream articles where the army and marines are hiring aggravated felons. | ||
| The government is criminal! | ||
| Period! | ||
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What more do you have to see? | |
| I'm sorry, Ted. | ||
| Stay there. | ||
| Let's come back and tell them about the gold prices. | ||
| I can't even take pleasure in the fact we've been right about the gold and all of our listeners that bought gold are making huge profits. | ||
| I can't even enjoy anything. | ||
| I can't enjoy anything anymore. | ||
| All I do is worry about my children and this country and there's all these stupid yuppies calling me a conspiracy theorist while the whole world goes to hell in a handbasket! | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
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Stay with us! | |
| Transmission continues! | ||
| I think that might be one of the commercial breaks where he ended up throwing a chair or something like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That sounded real rage. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's real mad. | ||
| I can't even enjoy my sales pitch, Dan! | ||
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I can't even enjoy it! | |
| They're ruining my day! | ||
| We hate doing this, but this is an instance of, like, you gotta give it up to Alex a tiny bit in terms of, like, he's not lying about gold prices. | ||
| He's lying a little bit. | ||
| He says that they're over $1,000. | ||
| And I think they might have been up over $1,000 for a little bit during the day. | ||
| But I have all the graphs here in front of me. | ||
| And in February 2009, it was like at $950 or so. | ||
| And that might be a small distinction, but it's not. | ||
| Because it never reached $1,000 until like September. | ||
| Like as a stable price. | ||
| It might have fluctuated throughout the day. | ||
| Like we peaked there, but where it settled. | ||
| Like in terms of a closing price was not that until September. | ||
| So had you bought gold in February and then sold it in September, even if you had bought it from GCN, you might have made money. | ||
| Well, you would have been fleeced because of their service charges and shit like that. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Even from them, you might still have made money. | ||
| Here's where we have to talk about the logistics of gold for a second. | ||
| Which I still don't understand. | ||
| Well, but here's the thing. | ||
| Do they mail you coins? | ||
| No, because they hang on to it, right? | ||
| Often, yes. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I believe that there's different arrangements you can have. | ||
| But yeah, generally, they do have lockers that they keep it in. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| When we're looking at this increase of gold, it ended up peaking in September of 2011 at about 850 an ounce. | ||
| And so if you'd bought it when Alex is selling it down there at like $800, $900 an ounce, and it gets up there, then you've made $900 from that ounce over two years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which isn't terrible, but at the same time, if you're going to drop that money, you have to have money. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You're getting a 100%... | ||
| Return over it that ended up falling after that to the point where it's at like $1,200 now after it's stabilized a little bit. | ||
| But you would have made $900 on this investment if you cashed out in September of 2011 off of a $900 investment. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If you're not buying in bulk... | ||
| That's a great investment, then. | ||
| It is, but if you're not buying in bulk, that's not a meaningful transaction over two years. | ||
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No. | |
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's not really meaningful in any way to the consumers that are probably listening to his show. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm saying I wouldn't put my IRA into it. | ||
| Well, I'm telling you that gold is rising, and they're not lying about that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But one of the things they are kind of lying about is if that means anything to you. | ||
| It costs a lot to get into the game to buy any meaningful amount of it. | ||
| Because, like, you know, whatever money you have around, like, let's say you have $300 to invest in gold. | ||
| You buy $300, you get, like, at this point in time, a third of an ounce of gold. | ||
| And then, two years later, it's worth $600. | ||
| Is that really life-changing, even though the price has gone up double? | ||
| It's not really. | ||
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No. | |
| To make a difference. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he's still screwing over these people who are buying little bits. | ||
| Well, yeah, I mean, but... | ||
| You turn 20 bucks into 40 if you get out at the right time. | ||
| I'm never going to understand the gold commodities market, Dan. | ||
| No matter how many times you explain it to me, I'm still going to get stuck on, like, is this Spanish... | ||
| Coins from a sunken treasure ship. | ||
| It's not Krugerrands. | ||
| I really don't understand it. | ||
| It's not doubloons. | ||
| I'm never going to understand how it makes any sense. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| It's sort of a thing for traders, maybe on gold futures or something like that. | ||
| Somehow I understand Bitcoin and I do not understand this. | ||
| Maybe we could spend a day sometime, have a picnic, and we could explain those to each other because I don't understand Bitcoin. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So that's one piece that I think that we've been remiss in talking about. | ||
| For this to mean anything, the price of it... | ||
| You have to be a massive investor. | ||
| The point of entry is very difficult for folks. | ||
| It makes sense if you're a billionaire, and it doesn't make any goddamn sense if you're just a person who's buying gold coins. | ||
| Right, and none of his listeners are billionaires. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| So they are the people who are getting screwed over, and Ted is just vampirically sucking off of them. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But at the same time... | ||
| Like, it's pretty similar to a stock that's already expensive. | ||
| Like, even if, let's say... | ||
| Apple just became the first trillion dollar corporation and even if you had bought stock... | ||
| When it was $500 billion a share. | ||
| Ten years ago, you would have to be a massive investor to make enough money off of them being a trillion dollar company now in order for it to make any sense for you to do so in the first place. | ||
| The point of meaningful entry is inaccessible to most of Alex's listeners. | ||
| And the funnel... | ||
| The conduit with which they could get in is a shady business called Midas Resources. | ||
| So they're screwed on both ends. | ||
| And now the third thing that I want to bring up, I think it's the third, is that this is exactly what you would expect to see. | ||
| This track upward of gold. | ||
| It's absolutely what you would expect to see after a financial crash. | ||
| After people are panicking a little bit, gold prices obviously would rise. | ||
| Because gold prices are just fucking gold prices that seem almost untethered to the other commodities markets that you see. | ||
| Well, we've talked about this as it relates to gold. | ||
| A lot of times the price and those sorts of things with commodities are based on scarcity. | ||
| And some of that scarcity can be a little bit artificial. | ||
| So the idea that Alex always is talking about how it's really hard to get a gun, well, it's not because the government doesn't want you to have a gun. | ||
| It's because you're creating all this fear and everyone's going and buying guns in a fever pitch. | ||
| And then there's no more guns to buy. | ||
| And that artificial scarcity is why Venezuela has a 1 million percent inflation rate right now is because OPEC and other... | ||
| Oh, you mean syphilis? | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| But what he's doing... | ||
| Whether or not it's all of his listeners, and it's not just him. | ||
| There's all these gold bug assholes out there who have their own cottage industries. | ||
| They are the people who are pushing this gold when there is fear and when there's anxiety. | ||
| So what they do is they end up having a lot of people who are buying gold, and that makes the price of gold go up. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| So in the same way that they're artificially creating this pretend scarcity of guns, they are feeding into... | ||
| The scarcity of gold that ends up raising the price of gold. | ||
| It's kind of a self-perpetuating cycle. | ||
| No, I get that. | ||
| That only ends up hurting the customers of Midas Resources. | ||
| I just don't... | ||
| So, let me get this really, really straight, like down from the very bottom. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Gold is expensive because it's shiny. | ||
| Well, and because of its many uses in electronics. | ||
| There are a bunch of cables and stuff like that that specifically need gold. | ||
| There are a lot of very specific uses for gold as a semiconductor and shit like that. | ||
| So there are like functional reasons that gold has like an intrinsic value. | ||
| But then the other reason is just because of this idea that it's been valuable Right. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| of the price generally. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| It is that there are people... | ||
| Like it comes from a million years ago This is shiny. | ||
| And it was hard to get. | ||
| And there's not a ton of this. | ||
| It's been traditionally hard to get. | ||
| And then once it became easier to get, it was hard to get for you and I, but the companies who could get it controlled the supply in order to raise demand. | ||
| Does everybody kind of know that our economy is built on magic? | ||
| I think everyone should suspect that. | ||
| Everybody kind of gets the idea that our economy is just like... | ||
| Smoke and mirrors. | ||
| And if everybody just realized that a refrigerator was more valuable than gold, we would lose our minds. | ||
| Yeah, it'd be crazy. | ||
| I remember one foundational moment for me was when I was in my freshman, junior, freshman, sophomore year of college. | ||
| My buddy, my buddy John, found out that his dad owned a ton of land. | ||
| And it was usable land. | ||
| And the government paid him not to grow things there because if they did grow things there, it could hurt the supply. | ||
| It would inflate the supply, and corn prices would end up going down. | ||
| And so in order to offset that, the government pays a lot of people who have land to not do anything with it. | ||
| And so he had this plot of land where there was just a shack out there, and we would go and get drunk and have bonfires. | ||
| And stuff like that. | ||
| I guess his dad would go maybe kill a deer every now and again. | ||
| Maybe illegal. | ||
| What are you, a loser? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| But that to me was always like, oh, I had no, like, because of the family that I come from, I had no access to that idea, that that was part of the price-modifying, price-stabilizing mechanism that goes into just the food we eat. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And if you extrapolate that out to gold, diamonds, any of these commodities and stuff like that, obviously there are people who are manipulating everything. | ||
| But... | ||
| It's not an evil manipulation. | ||
| It's a stabilizing manipulation. | ||
| I think that that is an important line to draw because any manipulation could be seen as suspect. | ||
| No, I get that, but at the same time, even that manipulation is a tacit acknowledgement of the meaninglessness of the entire system. | ||
| True. | ||
| We are doing this because we know that if you know that this all means nothing... | ||
| Shit would get wild. | ||
| Right, but why do you do assignments in high school? | ||
| Like, you know, why do you do... | ||
| That's what I'm saying! | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm saying... | ||
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Look! | |
| I'm not putting you on trial, Dan! | ||
| I'm putting the whole system on trial! | ||
| 90% of the things that are done in mainstream society are pointless. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's all imaginary. | ||
| We all live in such a weird imaginary world. | ||
| But you do it because it maintains the status quo in a pleasurable way for everyone. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
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Well, well. | |
| Ideally. | ||
| Ideally. | ||
| You hope... | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's what social progress is about. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Getting to the point where it is pleasurable for everyone, or comfortable for everyone, or not abusive for everyone. | ||
| You hope to get to that point with the illusions of society that we all agree just to live in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because whatever. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't think any of this makes sense, but... | ||
| Where is Steve from Chicago at now? | ||
| Oh, man, he's probably in the south suburbs. | ||
| You think he's Orland Park? | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
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I think he's Orland Park. | |
| I've been to Orland Park. | ||
| I've done some shows. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| He's definitely Orland Park. | ||
| That was in my head, but I couldn't come up with the name. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think I might have met him. | ||
| So... | ||
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Local jokes means local work. | |
| And local laughs. | ||
| Cut this out. | ||
| 530 Neon Nips. | ||
| Jordan, we have now a very large story that Alex is going to get into. | ||
| He has a big narrative. | ||
| It's all bullshit. | ||
| But here we go. | ||
| And it is being reported in the Daily Times Herald in Carroll, Iowa. | ||
| And I'll tell you why this is so important and so different. | ||
| I want to pause just real quick because I don't know if you've heard, but Alex keeps going like... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know why he's doing that. | ||
| I tried to track through the episode if it's a nervous tick of some sort. | ||
| I think he just has something in his throat. | ||
| You think he's just got... | ||
| You think he's just playing his Michael Jordan flu game? | ||
| Like, he's still bringing it, even though his skill level isn't at the level that it should be. | ||
| I mean, he's working 16 and a half hours a day, not including commute. | ||
| Not including transit time. | ||
| Yeah, and so that probably is... | ||
| Maybe he has something going on. | ||
| Maybe he's fighting cold or something like that. | ||
| What do you think his transit time is? | ||
| 45 minutes each way? | ||
| I actually... | ||
| I probably would be able to find out exactly. | ||
| I know his address and I know where his studio is, so I could probably figure that out. | ||
| Alright, well we need to go back to Austin and we need to drive back and forth because this claim is bullshit. | ||
| No, I could just look at a map and figure it out. | ||
| I imagine he speeds. | ||
| So, anyway. | ||
| From other operations, I'm going to start reading now. | ||
| Guardsmen to conduct, and remember they're not guardsmen now, they've been federalized under NORTHCOM. | ||
| So federal troops to conduct urban training at Arcadia in April. | ||
| Listen carefully. | ||
| The Carroll National Guard unit will train on urban military operations by holding a four-day exercise at Arcadia. | ||
| The purpose of the April 2nd to 5th drill will be to gather intelligence, then search and apprehend a suspected weapons dealer. | ||
| According to Sergeant Mike Knotts, readiness NCO for Alpha Company. | ||
| Now remember, in my film Road to Tyranny, I have a Marine Corps officer. | ||
| He showed me all the documents. | ||
| Who secretly was doing raids on gun dealers with the police in Virginia, in Norfolk, in the late 80s. | ||
| This has been a covert plan. | ||
| No. | ||
| What? | ||
| And they go on in the article to admit this is because of today's political climate in the U.S. They're not even saying this is for overseas now. | ||
| They are, though, man. | ||
| They are. | ||
| I read this article that he's talking about, and this is... | ||
| National Guard trains at Arcadia to find weapons dealer living really close to Alex Jones, crossing the Rubicon, gonna solve all of our problems. | ||
| Gotta call the Omnibugsman. | ||
| Gotta do it. | ||
| He's in the barrio. | ||
| Who else is there going on? | ||
| So this is just another Jade Helm type situation that he's lying about. | ||
| So the article is from this Daily Times Herald, probably, but he's actually reading from an article in World Net Daily. | ||
| Even the World Net Daily article doesn't really back up his claims. | ||
| So the National Guard is running a role-playing operation where one person is inserted into a small town, in this case Arcadia, Iowa, who's playing an illegal gun dealer, like an arms dealer. | ||
| So is he like a half-orc? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| Straight human. | ||
| Straight human. | ||
| It's not that kind of role-playing. | ||
| Okay, but like... | ||
| Human role-playing. | ||
| Okay, but who's... | ||
| No cause-playing. | ||
| No, but who's... | ||
| Okay, so then give me a rundown of his skills and abilities and perhaps magic spells. | ||
| Charisma is six. | ||
| Charisma is six? | ||
| That's a low charisma. | ||
| He's a rogue. | ||
| He's a rogue? | ||
| Rogues have high charisma. | ||
| These are the only references I know. | ||
| I don't play these games, although I wish I had as a child. | ||
| If you're going to run a... | ||
| Look, a rogue is a con man. | ||
| You've got to have a high charisma for that. | ||
| This is not necessarily a con man. | ||
| It is an arms dealer. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's a very blunt business as opposed to... | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| That means that his wisdom has to be pretty solid. | ||
| Oh, I would assume so. | ||
| So the guard is going to come into this town, and whichever houses consent to be involved in the roleplay, they might get a knock on the door and get pretend searched. | ||
| The issue... | ||
| Is that the Iowa National Guard needs to train, but quote, there are no active duty bases in Iowa, so there are no urban warfare training centers of any size, Lieutenant Colonel Greg Hopwood said. | ||
| Quote, in order to get that larger neighborhood feel or city feel, we have to be creative and partner with our communities. | ||
| So the way the roleplay would go is, like, let's say we live there. | ||
| We say, no, we don't want to be involved. | ||
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| Then we just get inconvenience a tiny bit while they're running around town doing their roleplay. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| They're fucking up traffic. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it's also a city where the population is 400-something. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you know traffic is going to be really fucked up if there's like 30 guys running around. | ||
| No, it's not because you can drive on the grass. | ||
| You don't need to go on the roads. | ||
| Dude, but where are they driving? | ||
| Just go around the roadblock on the grass. | ||
| So do they each start with 100 gold pieces or like 50 gold? | ||
| 100 gold pieces would be prohibitively expensive. | ||
| Okay, all right. | ||
| That's thousands and thousands. | ||
| All right, all right. | ||
| But what are we talking about? | ||
| Are we talking like a broadsword or? | ||
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Are we talking like a broadsword or? | |
| Are we talking like a broadsword or? | ||
| Not in the mood. | ||
| Not in the mood for RPG talk. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| I got no references, man. | ||
| It's not my style of video game. | ||
| I'm going to let it go. | ||
| I just felt the need. | ||
| I like Donkey Kong Country. | ||
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I just needed to take it to the point where you couldn't take it anymore. | |
| That's just all I needed. | ||
| I just needed it for my soul. | ||
| Feels like that very often on your show. | ||
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All right. | |
| Fair enough. | ||
| Don't. | ||
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Get him. | |
| Get him. | ||
| So, this is fun. | ||
| I would love this. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds like a tons of fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I would be like, oh, fuck yeah, you can involve me in this. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Because they very clearly point out, too, the way it works is that the people who are the guard... | ||
| Officers who are coming into the town don't know who the person inserted is who's playing the arms dealer. | ||
| And so they'll go to the houses that consent and they'll knock on the door and they'll have a picture and be like, have you seen this guy? | ||
| What do you know about him? | ||
| And then pretend to search the house. | ||
| It's like a real life game of murder. | ||
| It's like a whole fun party. | ||
| It's like a parlor game but there's cops involved. | ||
| But also the way that they... | ||
| Run the searching of the homes. | ||
| One of the things they're training there is how to do that respectfully. | ||
| Because when you're in wartime overseas and you're looking for a specific person, you might not treat that foreign citizen with the respect that they deserve. | ||
| So doing it with fellow citizens might be advantageous in some ways for you to learn how to do this safely and responsibly. | ||
| So you treat people like people because you treat the people who look like you like people. | ||
| Is it training for treating people who don't? | ||
| I wish it wasn't like that, but yeah. | ||
| That's essentially what that is, yeah. | ||
| But then also, if it is your first time searching a house, let's say, when it's high stakes, you might really fuck up. | ||
| I would much rather... | ||
| People in America consent to a fake search of their house to train troops to not murder foreign citizens. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know, I don't think there's anything wrong with this. | ||
| And, I mean, all of the fears that Alex has certainly haven't been materialized in present day. | ||
| Question. | ||
| Do you have to quarter them as well? | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay, well then, I am fine with it under the terms of the Constitution. | ||
| There's probably a Ramada Inn or something like that. | ||
| So Alex lies a little bit more about this situation here, and I only keep this in mostly because he does a funny voice. | ||
| But they're going to go to real people's houses, and then it says they're going to ask them about their guns. | ||
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I mean, this is it, folks. | |
| And they're going to spend 40, first it was 5, then 10, now 40-something billion, quote, for the image of the military in the U.S. media. | ||
| I mean, folks, it's 40-something billion just brainwashing everywhere. | ||
| They're making a move. | ||
| This happens in third world countries all the time. | ||
| It's a military coup! | ||
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And they've got to acclimate us to accept it! | |
| Soldiers will knock only in households that have agreed to participate in the drill, not said. | ||
| I've been to the other drills, and I've got it on video in Police State 2, the takeover, where locals said, yeah, they came to our door and told us not to talk to you, that you're crazy. | ||
| In fairness. | ||
| If I were then, I would also be like, look, you know what we're doing. | ||
| That guy is trying to stir shit. | ||
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He's trying to make a Police State 2 documentary. | |
| He's going to create a scene. | ||
| Don't talk to that guy. | ||
| If this was happening in Austin, Alex would totally have written, oh, agreed, please come search my house. | ||
| Oh, just so he could videotape it. | ||
| And then pretend it was a real search. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So, also, it doesn't say in that article at all that they're going to ask about whether or not you have guns. | ||
| That's just him editorializing and completely making stuff up. | ||
| You know what bums me out is that, again, we get into this place where I kind of agree with Alex. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| It's so frustrating because, yeah, look, I went to... | ||
| Spending money on glamorizing the military is fucking weird. | ||
| The idea that they pay all this money and have these things at football games. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| I was at the Cubs game watching the game, and they had this whole, like... | ||
| This is your, uh, uh, servicemen and everybody, everybody stood up and fucking standing ovation to him and I'm like, Fuck all of you! | ||
| What are you fucking idiots doing? | ||
| Do you not understand what the fuck is going on here? | ||
| This cost the military and then you a million dollars to advertise you loving how much we murder everybody all over the world. | ||
| What are you fucking idiots doing? | ||
| I agree with Alex. | ||
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That's bullshit. | |
| It's insane! | ||
| Right, but again, this is just the secondary point that you agree with him on. | ||
|
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I know! | |
| I know! | ||
| I wish he weren't right when he's so wrong! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He has no business being right about things that don't matter when he's wrong about the things that do. | ||
| Well, yeah, something like that. | ||
| That was the best I could do with that sentence. | ||
| Anyway, we now get a new guest. | ||
| And I don't mean new in terms of, like, we haven't seen him before. | ||
| He's stolen a lot of gold from various apartheid states. | ||
| We got a Swedelander? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Not necessarily, but he... | ||
| We got a Rhodesian? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I want to bring up Bob Chapman, the largest financial newsletters in the world, one of the largest private silver and gold brokers. | ||
| So at this point, I'm like, wait, Ted's already been on the show when Alex screamed at him. | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
| Is Ted going to come back to complete the three-man game with Bob Chapman? | ||
| In 2009, I've never seen Ted and Bob not be a parcel deal. | ||
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Right. | |
| They're always running the two-man game. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I'm like, wait. | ||
| Ted's already been on the show. | ||
| This is weird. | ||
| What are they going to get into? | ||
| Is Ted still on hold? | ||
| No, he's not. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck are they going to get into? | ||
| Because it is probably like half an hour later in the show. | ||
| Alex rambles a ton about that Iowa shit. | ||
| And actually, spoiler alert, he ends up getting a guy from the Iowa National Guard on as a guest at the end of the show. | ||
| And the guy's like, I don't have any clips of it. | ||
| Because the guy is just like, no. | ||
|
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No. | |
| I've been a member of the Iowa National Guard for 20-something years. | ||
| I'm in public communications. | ||
| I know. | ||
| What you're saying doesn't make sense. | ||
| Hey, first off, Alex, do you know what a National Guard does? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| The bigger point that he makes that Alex can't argue with, but he keeps trying to, and he said it in one of those last clips, was that the National Guard has now been federalized. | ||
| And what this guy keeps pointing out is, Well, yes, we exist as a federal entity when we are activated in that way, like if the National Guard goes to war, or if we are in some sort of defensive capability, yes, we become a federal entity. | ||
| But other than that, 99% of the time, we are under the direction of the governor of whatever state we are the National Guard of. | ||
| So we're kind of like the state guard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he keeps bringing that up, and Alex has nowhere to go with it. | ||
| And it completely punctures all of his narratives. | ||
| Like the idea that these people are all just under the sway of the black man in federal power. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Which is really, if you cut through it... | ||
| Which is essentially what it's coming down to. | ||
| That is most of the fear. | ||
| The black president is going to make white people feel bad. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he does this really, really fucking disappointing interview that I actually... | ||
| I thought about cutting some clips from just to hear Alex go... | ||
| A bunch of times. | ||
| But it wasn't worth it. | ||
| Like, it really wasn't. | ||
| It was too boring, and Alex was way too defensive. | ||
| Although, I do wish I had this one last clip. | ||
| Like, literally, like, right at the four-hour mark, the end of the show, Alex, like, he hears the exit music playing. | ||
| Guy is still on the phone. | ||
| I don't know how he hasn't hung up yet. | ||
| It's been like 15 minutes. | ||
| He's having a great time. | ||
| No, he's not. | ||
| He's having a great time. | ||
| He is not. | ||
| He is very polite. | ||
| He's polite. | ||
| Yeah, he's a serviceman. | ||
| And so at the end of it, Alex is like, well, you've been lied to, and I'm sorry that I've talked to people up way higher in the chain of command than you, but hopefully one day you'll see the light. | ||
| All right, thanks for joining us. | ||
| Replay starts now. | ||
| Nicely done. | ||
| Nicely done. | ||
| That's a dismount is what that is. | ||
| But at this point where we are in the show, Bob Chapman's in. | ||
| And Ted's already been on, so that's fucked up. | ||
| So what's going on? | ||
| What are they going to talk about? | ||
| What are they going to talk about? | ||
| Well, take Israel. | ||
| Netanyahu has now become the new Prime Minister of Israel, and he's saying he's going after Iran. | ||
|
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Well, Netanyahu is a Nazi. | |
| They have a fascist state in Israel. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
|
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That's to be expected. | |
| He's a former, well, probably still a CIA operative. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And worked with the Mossad, so you can well expect that. | ||
| And the people of Israel realize that, you know, if that's what they want, that's what they want. | ||
| Bob. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| Bob. | ||
| Bob, did you actually... | ||
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Bob. | |
| Did he accidentally get 40% of things right? | ||
| Bob. | ||
| Crazy Bob. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| Well... | ||
| Wow! | ||
| I never really expected the fiddleman to the gold sales guy, the guy who's just sort of like, I'm playing back around, trying to give you credibility, would come in with the harshest. | ||
| Netanyahu is a Nazi. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| That's bananas! | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| But, I mean, at the same time, game recognize game. | ||
| You know, when you're a part of a Nazi regime, you recognize when a... | ||
| Well, yeah, but... | ||
| Multiple. | ||
| Yeah, you know. | ||
| And steal all their gold. | ||
| Essentially. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know when a Nazi's in power. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, you do not not see the Nazi among you. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That was the worst thing I've ever done. | ||
| You tried. | ||
| I appreciate you recognizing that. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I'm going to give that a wash. | ||
| That's not a negative one. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| We'll go push. | ||
| So at this point, Alex makes what I can only describe as something that I am so glad was an empty threat. | ||
| I'm looking at the March 23rd, 1775, the war is inevitable, Patrick Henry speech, and I'm going to, you know we've got all these guests on day, I've got to take time out to read the whole thing, because in context it's just beautiful. | ||
| I'm so glad he didn't end up doing that. | ||
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Oh yeah? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| It's too long. | ||
| I know that he's better at reading in 2009 than he is in present day. | ||
| But also, why would you call that the war is inevitable speech when it's really the give me liberty or give me death speech? | ||
|
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The war is inevitable. | |
| But the is isn't even in the title. | ||
| It's called the war inevitable. | ||
| No, that's how it ends, right? | ||
| No, the end is give me liberty or give me death because the war is inevitable. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, I remember that speech. | ||
| Give me liberty or give me death because the war is totally inevitable. | ||
| He even said totally. | ||
| That was a weird thing to say. | ||
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He said totes. | |
| He said totes? | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| Hashtag... | ||
| Inevitable war. | ||
| No, I'll give you, I'll read you the last paragraph. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. | ||
| Gentlemen may cry, peace, peace! | ||
| But there is no peace. | ||
| The war has actually begun. | ||
| The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring our ears to the clash of resounding arms. | ||
| Our brethren may already be in the fields. | ||
| Why stand we here idle? | ||
| What is it that gentlemen wish? | ||
| What would they have if life is so dear or peace so sweet? | ||
| As to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery. | ||
| Forbid it, almighty God! | ||
| I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| That's a good paragraph. | ||
| It's not bad. | ||
| That's a solid paragraph. | ||
| It doesn't end with The War Is Inevitable, and also the title is The War Inevitable. | ||
| Sort of a poetic title. | ||
| But be that as it may, all I care... | ||
| Look, he's not wrong. | ||
| All I care about is that he didn't read at all. | ||
| Because I think I did a better job with that paragraph. | ||
| Even though I stumbled over a couple of words. | ||
| You did fine. | ||
| You did good. | ||
| We'll give you two or three more read-throughs and you'll fucking nail it. | ||
| Yeah, this voiceover? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Take it from the top one more time, Dan. | ||
| So now everything kind of comes full circle. | ||
| Bob Chapman, TheInternationalForecaster.com. | ||
| Folks can check the site out and send you an email and get a free complimentary copy. | ||
| It's just invaluable information. | ||
| TheInternationalForecaster.com. | ||
| Thank you so much for coming on with us today. | ||
|
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Thank you, Alex. | |
| See you next week. | ||
| Bye-bye. | ||
| All right, take care. | ||
| There goes Bob Chapman. | ||
| I've never had Ted, I don't think, on twice during one program. | ||
| I'm only going to spend about two minutes with him. | ||
| I wanted to get him back on. | ||
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Oh, I told you he was coming back on. | |
| Yep. | ||
| I told you he was coming back on. | ||
| I was honestly a little pissed that you predicted that. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| I know you were half-joking. | ||
| The two-man game. | ||
| It's a two-man game. | ||
| No, because he comes back, and Bob is gone now. | ||
| Right, but that's what I'm saying. | ||
| The guy who has to make you afraid of everything needs to come on before the guy who tells you what the solution to everything is. | ||
| There is no doubt that Bob spent the last minute and a half, two minutes of his appearance saying that the market is going to fucking collapse like crazy. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| And gold is going to be great. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| And Ted's prices are amazing. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| So all that did happen before that clip. | ||
| But I think it's so... | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| I've never heard that in my life. | ||
| He brought Ted on to just yell at him for a little bit. | ||
| Like, fuck, we gotta talk about Gold Price. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| We'll do it after the break. | ||
| And then brings him back after they do the thing that they do all the time. | ||
| Maybe Bob was at the fucking store. | ||
| Maybe Bob didn't have the timing right, and so Bob is trying to check out at his local Kroger. | ||
| Or maybe when they were supposed to do the two-man act, that's when Joel Bonick called in. | ||
| Oh, that could be, because Joel Bonick called in five minutes early. | ||
| Yeah, we do know that there's some... | ||
| So that could have fucked up the timing. | ||
| Yeah, there is some sort of scheduling glitches here. | ||
| That sounds like the most reasonable situation here, is Bob was sidelined, and then... | ||
| For whatever reason... | ||
| I mean, what is this? | ||
| Like, if you consider that he doesn't have episodes on Saturday, this is probably the 45th episode that I've listened to from 2009 or so, and every time Bob Chapman is on, it's to set up Ted. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the idea that they kind of fucked that game up a little bit on this one episode is a massive anomaly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But I do like that it came at the expense of just Alex yelling at Ted for a while. | ||
| Just venting some of his like... | ||
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I feel bad. | |
| Oh, Bob isn't here, Ted. | ||
| Ted! | ||
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I'm telling you this world is going to a hell in a handbasket, Ted! | |
| We are waiting for Bob to call in. | ||
| Bob is not calling in. | ||
| Ted, you are living in a world that is dominated by a piece of shit. | ||
| Ted, Bob Chapman is going to... | ||
| He's not called in yet, Ted. | ||
| Ted, Bob texted me and said he's out of Booyan. | ||
| Not Gold Booyan needs beef stock. | ||
| He's at the Kroger. | ||
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Uh, shit. | |
| It'll be here soon. | ||
| Why was Kroger the reference? | ||
|
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I don't know. | |
| Where did that come from? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's a very popular chain. | ||
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Is it? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Not the Midwest. | ||
| I know, but I'm just saying, why did I pull Kroger for no reason? | ||
| Did we both? | ||
| We both did. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We both pulled Kroger. | ||
| I gotta listen to the tape back. | ||
| I guarantee. | ||
| Listen back to the tape. | ||
| We both pulled Kroger. | ||
| I'm gonna freak out when I re-listen to this. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| Because I didn't hear you say Kroger, and I thought it was weird that I said it. | ||
|
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Insane. | |
| I know, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's insane. | ||
| For whatever reason, 2009 and Kroger. | ||
| There are no Krogers in Chicago. | ||
| No! | ||
| I haven't seen a Kroger in ten years! | ||
| I have. | ||
| My brother used to live in Columbus, Ohio. | ||
| Well, yeah, but that's Kroger country. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
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Totally. | |
| I could have said Schnucks. | ||
| It's a nice grocery chain out in central Missouri. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, why not? | ||
| How about a Jewel Osco? | ||
| What about it? | ||
| Ah, what about him? | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Sponsor this show, Jewel Osco. | ||
| Oh, I'd love it. | ||
| So, um, Schnucks. | ||
| We could sell your double coupons. | ||
| I would have said J&J Peppers, but they are out of business. | ||
| J.J. Peppers. | ||
| J.J. Peppers. | ||
| No and in there. | ||
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Sorry. | |
| I always feel like there should be an and anytime. | ||
| They did go out of business. | ||
| They did go out of business. | ||
|
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We miss them. | |
| So this next clip, Jordan, there is another guest who is the Texas legislator who's still coming up. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| But Alex also throughout this show has been teasing that there's a surprise guest that he's hoping can come on. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Turns out that guy can't come on. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But he gets that guy's friend. | ||
| Alex, I can come on. | ||
| I'm still here. | ||
| I've been on hold this entire goddamn show. | ||
| Steve from Chicago has more to say. | ||
| No, this guy is a friend of the guest that Alex hoped to get on, which is disappointing as hell. | ||
| He's a friend of the guest? | ||
| Very disappointing. | ||
| He's a friend of the guest. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex tries to make it work, though, and God bless him. | ||
| We're going to get the fellow on from the 7-7 ripple effect who made the film, who mailed it out, Good afternoon, | ||
|
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Alex. | |
| It's nice to be with you. | ||
| Who is it? | ||
| Actually, as we speak, Anthony John Hill has been released, and he was actually ransomed for the sum of €3,500. | ||
| Ransomed. | ||
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Again, this is for sending out a DVD. | |
| Are you sure it's not just bail? | ||
| Well, he was ransomed for sending out a DVD, but the issue is who he sent the DVD to. | ||
| A jury. | ||
| Donny Osmond. | ||
| A jury. | ||
| Oh, a jury! | ||
| That's probably illegal, isn't it? | ||
| Who were deciding a 7-7 case, and it was deemed jury tampering. | ||
| Some kind of... | ||
| There's like a law that while a jury's in deliberation, you can't influence them, because that would be some sort of like... | ||
| Also... | ||
| It's like a bad idea. | ||
| Also, it really implies that you had to do some work to figure out who that jury was. | ||
| Boy, you sure did! | ||
| And find out how to contact them. | ||
| He also sent one to the judge. | ||
| All this is like, I mean, look. | ||
| He sent one to the... | ||
| That's just bad jury tampering. | ||
| Send DVDs wherever you want, but that's fucking... | ||
| That's just bad jury tampering. | ||
| But if you send it to those people, it's kind of... | ||
| It's real adjacent to jury harassment. | ||
| Yeah, what you gotta do is you gotta go to the trial. | ||
| You've got to find out what jurors kind of react with what facial expressions and then only send it to those jurors after doing a lot of research and finding out where they lived and then stalking them for a while. | ||
| You never send it to the judge. | ||
| The judge isn't on your team. | ||
| No. | ||
| Come on, man! | ||
| They work for the Admiralty Law. | ||
| That's just bad jury tampering. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm not angry about the tampering. | ||
| I'm angry about the incompetence. | ||
| So this guy's friend, Anthony John Hill, he made this documentary called 7-7, The Ripple Effect. | ||
| And what's interesting about that is that there's a group of 7-7 bombing skeptics called the July 7th Truth Campaign who had this to say about his documentary. | ||
| Quote, As far as I can see, the materials in the ripple effect have been available for a good two years, so I'm curious as to why it's only now that this film has been released. | ||
| They believe that the official account of the 7-7 bombing is full of holes, but they have an entire website cataloging the serious inconsistencies and irresponsible assumptions that Hill makes in his film. | ||
| There's literally no way that he's in prison for revealing forbidden information. | ||
| It's because he was jury tampering. | ||
| So even the skeptics are like, you're wrong. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Even the people who... | ||
| You make us believe that we're wrong. | ||
| That's how wrong you are. | ||
| You give love a bad name to Bon Jovi. | ||
| That's not rap, so I can't give myself another one for that. | ||
| No, you cannot. | ||
| I will actually give you a minus one for that one. | ||
| Now, I would have left this out and said this is irrelevant for us to talk about because it's not even this guy. | ||
| It's this guy's friend. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But, there's two things. | ||
| One, this guy, Hall, who made the 7-7 ripple effect. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And his other friend, Oates, who made the 7-8 dance effect. | ||
| Your bombing is not on my list. | ||
| Bad. | ||
| Not a good riff. | ||
| You got minus one. | ||
| Yeah, I give myself it. | ||
| You got minus two. | ||
| Like, back to back. | ||
| Bad. | ||
| He is the guy who we've talked about in the past who calls himself Muad'Dib. | ||
| Oh, he's this guy! | ||
| This guy! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| God damn it! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We talked about him a couple episodes back. | ||
| And we got into a goddamn dune confrontation. | ||
| This is that guy. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| This goes down a sand wormhole. | ||
| I will tell you that right now, Dan. | ||
| It does. | ||
| So that's the first reason that I kept this in. | ||
| The second reason is this next clip. | ||
| So everybody go get 7-7 ripple effect on the web. | ||
| They're trying to take it down on a lot of sites. | ||
| They're vaguely upset by this because it proves exactly what they did. | ||
| And that's why they want to shut the web down. | ||
|
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Well, and not only that, but, you know, for people that don't know much about him, this is the same man who spent the last ten years trying to raise the Ark of the Covenant in Ireland and knows the exact location of the... | |
| entrance to the subterranean mergue that down to a six foot by six foot square grass. | ||
| And they're not about to let him dig it. | ||
| Well, the British lords do, and then the Queen and all of them do claim that they have that, and I don't know if that's true, but I know he's also done a lot of research on that. | ||
| Very, very interesting. | ||
| Well, we want to get him on. | ||
| Good save, Alex. | ||
| Good fast talking there to cover up that he just said, well, the real reason they want to keep him in prison and keep him down is because he knows where the fucking Ark of the Covenant is on a 6x6 basis. | ||
| And he also knows where the subterranean entrance to the Murgate. | ||
| The Murgate. | ||
| I don't know what that means. | ||
| I am going to say this right now. | ||
| That was the best job Alex has ever done. | ||
| Pivoting? | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Pivoting away from that? | ||
| That was incredible. | ||
| Oh, that sounds interesting. | ||
| I know the Queen and the... | ||
| He engaged with that. | ||
| None at all. | ||
| And I barely noticed. | ||
| I barely noticed. | ||
| Like, if we hadn't been watching this show for a long... | ||
| If we hadn't been listening to this... | ||
| He mumbles about the Queen. | ||
| If we hadn't been listening to this for the whole time, I would have been like, Oh, yeah, yeah, no. | ||
| The Queen probably knows where the Mergate is. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And never realized that... | ||
| He just pivoted away with no engagement whatsoever. | ||
| That guy just said Ark of the Covenant, and Alex Jones at no point went, uh, what? | ||
| Well, that's the Project Camelot equivalent of Steve from Chicago saying it's a black power grab. | ||
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And Alex is like, uh, uh, uh, uh. | |
| But that's what I'm saying. | ||
| He did not panic at all. | ||
| He does because he doesn't cut it off immediately. | ||
| He panics for a second. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He regroups. | ||
| It's much like Jack in the first episode of Lost that you watched, where it's like I count to three, and I let myself absorb all of the fear, and then I get to business. | ||
| That's what Alex does. | ||
| It's like how Paul Atreides... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If you're going to make a reference, I get to make a reference. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| We're at loggerheads. | ||
| No, keep going. | ||
| We are now at the point... | ||
| I mean, I feel like we sorted that out. | ||
| Everything is fine. | ||
| I think we got that one down. | ||
| Nothing is wrong in Denmark here. | ||
| So now we move on. | ||
| I mean, I just love that, like, okay, so the last guest that... | ||
| Well, I mean, if you don't count Bob Chapman, because he's a regular. | ||
| The last guest that we had was that Joel Bonick, that was a... | ||
| Fucking disaster road to go down of how crazy this dude is. | ||
| Fantastic rollercoaster. | ||
| So then we have the friend of Muad'Dib who's on, who's like, now I need to point out that he knows where the Ark of the Covenant is. | ||
| That is an important thing to point out. | ||
| Alright, we got a lot of crazies here. | ||
| Frankly, I'm mad that that wasn't what he led with. | ||
| And so now we get to the last guest, which is where we will end this episode. | ||
| A couple of clips from this guy. | ||
| He is Leo Berman, the guy from the Texas legislature that Alex teased at the top of the show. | ||
| Not to be confused with wonderful person and friend of the show, Leah Berman. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| She's great. | ||
| She's fantastic. | ||
| She's a good comic. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Chicago lover. | ||
| Great. | ||
| She's not one of the Steves from Chicago. | ||
| She's not to be our shorthand for Chicago races. | ||
| She's definitely not a Steve from Chicago, no. | ||
| So here's Leah Berman from Texas. | ||
| In the last 36, 40 hours or so, Minnesota, Texas, and some other states have introduced... | ||
| Declaratory statements are reaffirming their Tenth Amendment rights. | ||
| Other states are on the verge of passing or have passed Tenth Amendment bills saying no gun confiscation, no martial law. | ||
| We had a state representative on who's introduced one in Montana that's already done two readings, has a good chance of passing right now in their session. | ||
| But folks want a statement in Texas about sovereignty, and that has indeed happened. | ||
| And during this week, it got written up by Representative Leo Berman. | ||
| Representative 6th Legislative District, Smith County, right here in the great state of Texas. | ||
| And you can go up to Infowars.com and the sites and read HCR 50. But to go over that with us is the man that penned the bill and has now introduced it, Representative Leo Berman. | ||
| Sir, thank you for coming on with us. | ||
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Alex, it's a pleasure to be with you. | |
| And actually, next week I'm going to file another resolution. | ||
| And that resolution will do the same thing. | ||
| However, it's going to cover both the 9th... | ||
| Great. | ||
| I mean, they're already in the Constitution. | ||
| No, it's going to cover them, though. | ||
| They're already in it. | ||
| You don't need to do this. | ||
| No, it's going to cover them. | ||
| You don't need to do this. | ||
| He's going to write a resolution that covers them. | ||
| You don't need to do that. | ||
| It's already in the Constitution. | ||
| No, but he's going to cover them. | ||
| You don't need to do that. | ||
| It's absurd. | ||
| No, he's going to... | ||
| Okay, so you think you know the 9th and 10th revolution. | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
| You think you know the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You think you know them. | ||
| This ain't your daddy's Ninth Amendment! | ||
| But has anybody ever covered them for you? | ||
| Has anybody ever written into law those amendments? | ||
| Has anyone done an acid jazz cover of the Ninth Amendment? | ||
| Has anybody ever really sat down and wrote down what those Ninth and Tenth Amendments mean? | ||
| Well, they did that once when they wrote them. | ||
| And then it passed all the legislature. | ||
| No, I don't understand. | ||
| No, but they were short. | ||
| How long was it? | ||
| Wait, this... | ||
| Those amendments, they weren't that long. | ||
| This HCR 50? | ||
| Not very long either. | ||
| How long was it? | ||
| Not very long. | ||
| I could read the whole thing if you want, but it's pointless. | ||
| Okay, could you first read the 9th and 10th amendments today? | ||
| No, I can't. | ||
| And then compare it with the length of these. | ||
| Nor shall I. Actually, this is probably longer. | ||
| See, there you go. | ||
| That's why we gotta do it. | ||
| We gotta do it. | ||
| We gotta clarify the language, Dan. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| The reason it's longer, at least this HCR 50 in Texas, this is really funny. | ||
| I looked into this. | ||
| And so, like, a lot of those other ones that we talked about, these House resolutions, House concurrent resolutions, they died in committee or they never got brought for a vote, that sort of thing. | ||
| This one did pass. | ||
| Because it's Texas. | ||
| Well. | ||
| Well. | ||
| It passed because it was required to have a bunch of rewrites and amendments. | ||
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Okay. | |
| They kept asking, like, now rewrite that shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so what it ended up doing is this. | ||
| It's just rewriting the 9th and 10th Amendment. | ||
| Basically. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, they just wrote the same shit down. | ||
| No, they don't even rewrite it. | ||
| They just talk about, like, so, you know, hey, we like being a part of the United States, that sort of thing. | ||
| Resolved. | ||
| The House of Representatives. | ||
| The Senate concurring. | ||
| That the 81st legislature of the state of Texas reaffirms the pride of all Texans in both our one and indivisible national union and in our one and indivisible state and common knowledge of both and be further resolved that the chief clerk of the House of Representatives is directed to send a copy of this resolution to the President of the United States of America, the Vice President of the United States of America, the Speaker of the House of Representatives of the United States of America, and to the Governor of each sister state as an expression of the affection of the people of... | ||
| Texas for our one national and indivisible union. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I heard that, and all I heard was Texas secedes from the union and declares its sovereignty. | ||
| Against the United States. | ||
| No, my buddy. | ||
| It's the opposite. | ||
| Oh, it's the opposite. | ||
| Because of the amendments and rewrites, the legislature kept being like, no. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No. | ||
| We're not going to vote yes for this until you rewrite it to say that all this is is a declaration of love for the one national and indivisible union. | ||
| It's an ironic declaration of love, Dan. | ||
| That was secession. | ||
| It's the opposite. | ||
| I've never heard a state secede more. | ||
| It's the opposite of secession. | ||
| It is them saying that we are sending this as a proclamation that we love being part of the United States. | ||
| Now, at the same time... | ||
| We declare our sovereignty, but at the same time, guys, we love all of you. | ||
| I want the Attorney General from all of these states to get a note. | ||
| I want the President, you gotta know. | ||
| Guys, we love you. | ||
| Also, RSVP, we're having a party. | ||
| Texas. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| The beginning of this House concurrent resolution is them saying that the Tenth Amendment applies. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And hey, so does the Constitution. | ||
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The federal government is cool with that. | |
| Because it's a big part of the Constitution. | ||
| It's kind of our thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that is so comical to me, the idea that we know what happens in the future and this bill gets cucked down to being like, we love the federal government, which is really awesome. | ||
| But unfortunately, Leo Berman keeps talking. | ||
| He says something, one word, that's really weird in this next clip. | ||
| I want to see, mic down, I want to see if you can guess what one word stuck out to me in this clip. | ||
| God, if it's the N-word, we're going to quit. | ||
| It's not. | ||
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That if you're going to mandate anything on the state of Texas, if it's not fully contained in the U.S. Constitution, we're not going to do it. | |
| And the reason we're doing this, we're taking action, is because we understand there's going to be a federal handgun registration. | ||
| We don't want him to know where all of our guns are here in Texas. | ||
| What's the word? | ||
| So I'm going to go with him. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| It was that obvious. | ||
| I'm going to go with him. | ||
| I'm going to go with him. | ||
| Weird, Leo. | ||
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Him! | |
| Hey, Leo. | ||
| Did you not want the government to know, or did you not want him? | ||
| Hey, Leo. | ||
| You're showing. | ||
| Whatever it is, you're showing it. | ||
| You know, that's crazy. | ||
| Leo, do you have six nipples and four of them are on your fucking face? | ||
| You are obvious. | ||
| This is bananas. | ||
| Man, that's a mess. | ||
| Him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Him! | ||
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Yep. | |
| We don't want him! | ||
| So that made me say... | ||
| So he would have said that, obviously, during the... | ||
| Any other... | ||
| Any other presidency. | ||
| Undoubtedly. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| What kind of crazy person would imagine otherwise? | ||
| So that made me be like, I want to find out about Leo Berman. | ||
| What's up with him? | ||
| I bet this goes down a very short rabbit hole of a man who loves his family, has never committed any gross frauds of any kind. | ||
| I regret to inform you that he has died. | ||
| I don't regret that. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| In 2011, Berman was named the worst politician by Texas Monthly after he appeared on CNN and combatively argued that Obama wasn't qualified to be president. | ||
| Leo Berman is a birther. | ||
| When the White House produced his birth certificate, Leo Berman responded, quote, it will take someone like Donald Trump to really determine whether the president has pulled the greatest swindle, the greatest hoax in the history of the United States. | ||
| What year was that? | ||
| 2011. | ||
| Because that was when Trump was on his birther shit. | ||
| He was sort of leading the charge along with Joe Arpaio. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| I know that. | ||
| All the big monsters of our time. | ||
| I know that. | ||
| I just don't understand the idea that a human being would say it would take someone like Donald Trump. | ||
| And yet at the same time, that's a very apt statement really to make. | ||
| Because it would take someone like Donald Trump to have zero. | ||
| Zero morality or just deference to truth or anything like that. | ||
| Just, it would take a pure psychopath. | ||
| It would take... | ||
| The fucking Unabomber. | ||
| No, not even that, because the Unabomber believed in reality. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It would take a fucking serial killer to have zero human empathy or actions whatsoever in order to reveal this fucking scam. | ||
| It would take Leo Berman, you lying garbage pile of fucking shit. | ||
| It would take you... | ||
| Pulling this bullshit on national television for everybody in Texas Monthly to be like, oh, finally, a Texan who sucks. | ||
| It's kind of the bad version. | ||
| What he projects onto Donald Trump is kind of the bad version of that, like, are you a bad enough dude to save the president? | ||
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Yeah, a little bit. | |
| Are you bad enough to lie about everything? | ||
| So that same year, he sponsored a rally encouraging Texas to secede from the United States. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| In 2011. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| 2011 was a big year for Leo Berman. | ||
| He also made headlines by claiming, quote, the judges in Dearborn, Michigan are using and allowing to be used Sharia law. | ||
| Also in England, in France, and in Germany, the use of Sharia law is being allowed as well. | ||
| This claim was made almost certainly because Leo had read this on a right-wing propaganda blog, or where the story originated... | ||
| On an anti-Muslim blog called Creeping Sharia, the blog put up an article about how four Christian missionaries were arrested at the annual Arab International Festival, one of whom was, quote, peacefully discussing his Christian faith with Muslim youths. | ||
| So innocuous. | ||
| So innocent. | ||
| So innocent. | ||
| What Creeping Sharia and Leo Berman failed to point out is that, quote, the Christians were charged with disorderly conduct after police said they received a complaint from a Christian volunteer working at the festival who said he was harassed by the group. | ||
| It wasn't even the Muslims or the Arabs there who complained about him. | ||
| It was a Christian. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| His propaganda narrative got weaved into a thing where Leo Berman is coming around saying that Sharia law is, uh... | ||
| Coming to America. | ||
| So we have one more clip here to listen to, and it's just Leo Berman being a pile of shit. | ||
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And also, there's another bill, a federal hate crimes bill. | |
| If you open up your Old Testament to the Bible and read in the book of Exodus that homosexuality is an abomination, you could be charged with a crime under that bill, and that's exactly what's happening in Canada right now. | ||
| So we're just saying, if it's not in the Constitution, don't tell us about it. | ||
| Don't ask us to do it. | ||
| Was the Bible in the Constitution? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, but was the Bible in the Constitution? | ||
| I just think when you're talking about government overreach and stuff like that, one of your first go-tos is hate crime protections. | ||
| And your example is like, hey, look, this old-ass book says that gays are an abomination. | ||
| Is that a hate crime? | ||
| I would say... | ||
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Depends. | |
| Would you say depends? | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| I wouldn't even say depends. | ||
| No, I would say it depends. | ||
| I'd say, yeah, probably a hate crime. | ||
| If you're privately enjoying that, I don't give a shit. | ||
| Enjoy your life. | ||
| If you're sitting... | ||
| Oh, oh, okay. | ||
| It's when you're yelling it at other people that it becomes an issue. | ||
| You know, when you bring out that... | ||
| It is Leviticus, I believe. | ||
| Yeah, it is Leviticus. | ||
| No, you're right. | ||
| That's where all the laws are. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, Leviticus was hardcore laws. | ||
| When you bring out to lay with another man as an abomination, when you bring that out and scream it at someone who is a homosexual or a part of the LGBT community, then you are harassing them and being a dick. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If you just sit around and privately believe it, I wish you wouldn't, but what are you going to do? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| That's your right to believe whatever you want. | ||
| So... | ||
| I would suggest I've never read any hate crime legislation that doesn't involve you doing something to someone else. | ||
| So this falls on deaf ears for me. | ||
| This idea of like, oh, it's going to be a hate crime to read the Bible. | ||
| Go fuck yourself. | ||
| That's such a hollow fear. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm vamping because you're looking at a text. | ||
| No, I'm not looking at a text. | ||
| And I ran out of steam on my... | ||
| No, you did not run out of steam. | ||
| I did a little bit. | ||
| You fucking nailed it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| That is exactly what is fucking going on. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| What is this guy thinking? | ||
| How is this supposed to work for him? | ||
| How can you both believe that the Constitution is absolute and yet at the same time think that a non-existent verse of the Bible in Exodus can justify you committing hate crimes as being an overreach under the Constitution? | ||
| This doesn't make any... | ||
| None of this makes sense. | ||
| Not even unreasonable sense. | ||
| This makes no sense. | ||
| This is completely separated, unrelated... | ||
| Concepts from all directions somehow being combined? | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| He wants to yell at gay people. | ||
| Here's why it washes over me. | ||
| It washes over me because this doesn't make any fucking sense. | ||
| You think you need to engage when the reality is when you hear something like that, the only thing that person is saying is, I want to yell at gay people. | ||
| I know! | ||
| And I think I can't anymore. | ||
| But why are you pretending to make it? | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| I mean, what I do understand is because on some level they realize that other human beings are like, you can't do that anymore. | ||
| So they have to say, well, I want to do it, but since you aren't going to let me do it, I have to create some sort of fantastical reasoning. | ||
| to why I should be able to do it. | ||
| Well, even sociopaths have feelings about themselves. | ||
| You know, like, even if they can't understand other people's emotions and feelings and stuff like that, they still care about themselves not being able to do certain things. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And so when, like, hate crime legislation is passed, they don't feel it in the sense of, like, understanding what someone might experience from their actions. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how to... | ||
| There was a road I was going down. | ||
| I don't understand where I'm going to end. | ||
| So because they can't experience any kind of empathy for other human beings, all they can experience is an attack on themselves. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| A deprivation for themselves. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because I used to be able to do that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And nobody would stop me. | ||
| So you're taking something away from me, even though you're not, and I shouldn't have been doing it in the first place. | ||
| And I can totally live a life that's fine without it. | ||
| Do any of these people know that their lives would be unchanged if they weren't racist? | ||
| It wouldn't even bother them. | ||
| How many people who are like, oh, the worst thing that you can call a white person is racist, and that's in a slur against us. | ||
| How many of them just realize, no, you could just be fine. | ||
| Like, your day wouldn't be bothered. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Maybe if you just don't say racist things, nobody would bother you with it. | ||
| I think that in this modern era, so much of what the advice people need is let go. | ||
| But it's not that easy. | ||
| But that is the answer. | ||
| Like, you're saying these... | ||
| Go to bed. | ||
| No, because that wouldn't help. | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| You're saying that these people who are, like, racists... | ||
| If they just realized if they stopped being racist, everything would be the same. | ||
| What that really is is letting go of something they don't know they're holding on to. | ||
| And that's the same for a lot of people with unresolved issues. | ||
| And I'm not saying it's as simple as just saying, well, I don't care anymore or anything like that. | ||
| But there's a process you can go through that involves letting go. | ||
| Just shaking off the burdens of whatever is stuff that you don't need anymore. | ||
| Erasing old software that's in your operating system that you don't know why. | ||
| But it did, and you don't need it to run your computer. | ||
| Racism is one of them big time. | ||
| Misogyny is one of them big time. | ||
| Homophobia, those are systems that haven't been updated. | ||
| Because they're antiquated and they're glitching. | ||
| They're glitching in people's computers and they insist on holding on to them. | ||
| See, I kind of actually am going to go back to an argument that Alex made. | ||
| My metaphor went way too far. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I actually think it was very apt and I think you did a great job. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I'm going to go back to, actually, weirdly enough, something Alex said in order to explain why it is not something that they can just let go of. | ||
| What Alex said whenever he was talking about, to bring it back, the so-called changes in pigment, that kind of stuff. | ||
| He was saying that people in power are using it to divide us, which is frustrating because that is true. | ||
| It's frustrating that Alex can say that and it is a true thing that's doing, and yet he's the person who's doing it. | ||
| And the same way he's driving up gold prices. | ||
| Correctly pointing out that it's being done, you know? | ||
| Like, part of the reason that in... | ||
| He's the cause of all the problems he complains about correctly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like, in post-Reconstruction era South, you know, you don't want poor white people and black people to get together because then they're going to realize together, oh, it's not the poor of... | ||
| It's the system. | ||
| It's the rich. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So... | ||
| The poor white people can hang on to the fact that, hey, no matter how poor we are, no matter how much we starve, at least we're not black people. | ||
| So that's, to me, what all this racism that people can't let go of is. | ||
| It's like, look, I'm actually living a shitty life. | ||
| And the only thing that brings me a kind of sense of security is that at least I'm not gay. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I agree that that might be sort of a psychological crutch, but at the same time, that doesn't really, in any substantive way, help your life. | ||
| If you are using that to sort of bolster your own sense of self, if you let it go, the reality of your life, whatever your paycheck is, whatever your living situation is, doesn't actually change. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Maybe you have to find new friends because you can't hang out with those racist bigots that you hung out with. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's only going to be an upgrade in your life. | ||
| It's going to be a tough adjustment period when you have no friends and have to go, you know, meet new people. | ||
| But other than that, nah, I don't buy this shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everyone just needs... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know either. | ||
| Anyway, all this sucks. | ||
| It doesn't really, though. | ||
| 2009 is still more fun. | ||
| No, 2009 is more fun, and yet at the same time, so illustrative. | ||
| Shout out to Joel Bonick for providing me with a nice story about meth houses. | ||
| Shout out to Alex Jones for allowing Bob Chapman to precipitate two visits from Ted Anderson on one episode. | ||
| Set in records. | ||
| I got no more shoutouts, except that we have a website, knowledgefight.com, also a phone number, 530. | ||
| Wait, American? | ||
| American number one. | ||
| American number one. | ||
| 530. | ||
| And I'm serious. | ||
| It's active now. | ||
| As soon as you hear this, if you are listening and you want to leave us a message, you can do it anytime. | ||
| Anytime. | ||
| Anytime you have some weird thought, save it in your phone. | ||
| Save it in your phone as a number you can just, like, if you're out drunk and you want to just leave us a drunk message, Go for it. | ||
| This is revolutionary. | ||
| The opinions Dan expresses are not necessarily the opinions expressed. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| No, this sounds fun. | ||
| At knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Yeah, we're on Facebook. | ||
| You can go to our Facebook group. | ||
| Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant. | ||
| We're on iTunes. | ||
| Apparently, Dan is going to be working to get us on Stitcher and shit right now. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Stitcher wasn't as easy as I thought, and Spotify is not going to work. | ||
| No, Spotify is bullshit. | ||
| They keep everybody out, except for Alex. | ||
| No, Spotify we could get on, but they gave me a real serious warning message that if you have any copyrighted material... | ||
| We will throw you right off. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So then, yeah, Spotify's not going to work. | ||
| I understand that the Alex clips we use are under fair use. | ||
| Technically public domain. | ||
| But then also, he plays a lot of music that he has contracts to play. | ||
| But I know from posting things to YouTube, like, we posted that clip where he sung along with the Highwaymen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I got a message on YouTube that if we monetize that video, all the money goes to, like, RCA. | ||
| Because we played the Highwaymen clip. | ||
| So we can't play any... | ||
| I don't think Spotify will ever accept our show because it's not clear. | ||
| Because there's too many Highwaymen clips. | ||
| So I think we're in trouble there. | ||
| That's an interesting reason to be... | ||
| Stitcher may be in time, but I have to figure out how to hook it all up. | ||
| But anyway, who cares? | ||
| Anyways, the long and the short of it... | ||
| It's your turn. | ||
| ...goes down to us all agreeing. | ||
| It's not your turn. | ||
| It's my turn. | ||
| Is it your turn? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I think it is your turn. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I just always say it's your turn. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| It's my new bit. | ||
| You don't like it. | ||
| No, I don't really mind. | ||
| It's a challenge for me because I sit with these episodes for much longer than you. | ||
| I would say... | ||
| Boy. | ||
| Because I know I have a top one. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'd like to hear it, and then I'm going to flip a coin. | ||
| All right. | ||
| No. | ||
| I was going to say Muad'Dib, but go ahead. | ||
| How dare you say Muad'Dib? | ||
| Muad'Dib. | ||
| of the Fremen, okay? | ||
| They have been oppressed by the Harkonnen rule as well as the imperialists for such a long time. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| This is a very important story that you need to hear about right now. | ||
| So the Fremen, only because their land, it's a whole morality tale. | ||
| It's basically an allegory for the way that the imperialists treated, like the colonists treated the Native Americans in the same fucking way. | ||
| Anyways, my biggest issue is that Leo Berman Can go fuck himself. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |