Knowledge Fight - #181: August 16, 2016

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#181: August 16, 2016

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August 16, 2016 Alex Jones episode vanished from Ron Gibson’s InfoWars YouTube channel amid Roger Stone’s DNC hacking indictment (Aug. 15). Jones falsely claimed a 2009 UN "Danish text" targeted white people via climate policies and election fraud, citing debunked student research. He also peddled racist lies about Sadiq Khan and Muslims, framing empathy as anti-white propaganda. Predictions of Clinton’s false flag assassination or election rigging—echoed by Stone—were baseless, yet Jones’ evasive behavior post-leaks suggests complicity in spreading disinformation. His rhetoric, though legally unprosecuted, reveals a pattern of fearmongering and potential collusion with foreign interference narratives. [Automatically generated summary]
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy and Tanzlos, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified		I'm a huge fan.
unidentified		I love your work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
unidentified		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, we are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan, Dan, if we had pretty much exhausted this bit beyond reasoning.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think we already did this version of the bit last episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, did we?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know way too much about Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		True.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And currently, I also know way too much about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		However, we have varying degrees of where our line is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know a little bit less, and I know a little bit more today.
		I have found some very juicy business for us to go over today.
		But before we get into today's episode, that really does water down the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like, I know a little bit more about Alex Jones, and he knows a little bit less.
		And therein is the rub.
		Well, that's not really a.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've both made up our minds, and who cares?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We do a show about a piece of shit.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Something that's not a piece of shit is our new donor.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, that's some great transitions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		wasn't my favorite, but something that is my favorite is our new door.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Two layers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great, great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to give a shout out and a thank you so much to Christopher.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much, Christopher.
		Christopher Robin in theaters in August.
		I believe he's our new sponsor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very excited about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That movie is our new sponsor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And as I told you the other night when we were hanging out, I played Winnie the Pooh in a fire prevention skit with seventh grade.
unidentified		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So me and Christopher Robin go way back.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Although I wasn't allowed to play Christopher Robin or the more appropriate character, Eeyore, because I was a bummed-out kid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Had to play Winnie the Pooh.
		I said, oh, bother with the best of them.
		Anyway, let's get into it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's the pantheon of O bothers?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Me, Winnie the Pooh.
		Winnie the Pooh, that's it.
		So today, Jordan, we have a very interesting episode to go over, and I'd like to start things off with an out-of-context drop from Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In the video, I finger Soros.
unidentified		He fingered Soros.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's good fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the video, I finger Soros.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's edited.
		That's edited, Dan.
		I'm telling you, that's not the context.
		Oh, man.
		You're the Project Veritas of Alex Jones finger fucking people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Only for the first few minutes of the show, and then we get real serious business.
		So today, Jordan, what I wanted to do, over the weekend and right towards the end of last week, we saw our old buddy, our good friend, living his best life, Roger Stone, get named without being named in an indictment of 12 Russians who hacked the DNC George Soros behind the entities, the DNC Leaks and Goose for 2.0.
		And Roger Stone was forced to go and embarrass himself on national television.
		Having Chris Cuomo be like, what are you talking about?
		Earlier today, you said that wasn't you, and it's clearly you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		My favorite part.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You released the private messages that are completely a one-to-one match with what's in this indictment.
		Well, yes, now that it's later in the day, I am saying that it's probably me.
		You were saying that Roger was thrown.
		I think he was a little bit, but I've realized that one of the things that threw him the most is that Chris Cuomo used one of him and Alex's big catchphrases before Roger could to take the power out of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When Chris Cuomo said, I know, I know they can indict a ham sandwich, but there you go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because that's one of their big catchphrases.
unidentified		Nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And now Roger can't use it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He took that off the table.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think Roger was like, you motherfucker.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You son of a bitch.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's all we have to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We just have to cuck out their sayings.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You just have to use it before they do it in an interview.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And apparently it's not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Every time, every interview we do, the first thing we should say is like, I know you're going to try and cuck me out on this one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then they're going to be like, I don't know what to do.
unidentified		Fuck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then before you know it, he's like, well, actually, they can also indict a cheese sandwich.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Damn it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Damn it, Roger.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're too good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, you're the slipperiest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And as I explained to you, what I got to witness in that interview was the evidence that Roger Stone isn't really as good as we think he is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, we have an elevated version of his trickiness because he's always against Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's up in that world, or back when he could just yell at people on CNN and stuff like that, back when he could call people, like, pretty racially charged things.
		Like, I think he called Don Lemon a mediocre Negro or something.
		No, that was someone else.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		He had.
		It was at least.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, no, no.
		We all know he said some racist shit.
		Nobody can remember this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's affirmative action hires or something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Then he could be slippery in a way that he's baiting you and trying to make you angry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But now he can't really play that game.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't really work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he'll get kicked off and he won't be invited back on anymore.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't really work as well.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's like Duke playing whatever it is, like Winnemac State or something like that, where it's like, all right, on InfoWars, Roger Stone is dunking on people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No competition whatsoever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's like a rock and jock b-ball.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And then he goes on CNN and he's like, oh, shit, this is level.
		I'm out of practice on this.
		I've been on InfoWars too long.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've been playing with children.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Co-hosting a show with Owen Schroeder.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know how to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't handle a real question.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		This is ridiculous.
		I could lie in the morning, in the evening, and nobody would question me on InfoWars.
		I could lie from one sentence to the next and contradict myself, and everybody would be like, Yeah, no, no, no, that's the smarter thing to do is contradict yourself.
		I love it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I like realizing that maybe his muscles have atrophied more than we realize.
		So I saw all that stuff, and I thought, well, this is interesting because when we started the show, it was the beginning of 2017.
		And so we had some current stuff in 2017.
		And then we largely focused on going back to 2015, to the beginning of Trump's candidacy, to track Alex's path.
		And one of the things that we didn't do all that much of is looking at 2016.
		And that's because it became fairly pointless once we realized the transition for Alex getting on Trump's wavelength.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		And that, so it just seemed like it wasn't all that important.
		But I realized that if you look at that indictment, there are dates in there.
		And I thought, oh, man.
		I thought maybe it would be interesting to go to the exact date.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The day after Roger definitely is in contact with Russian hackers and see what happened on InfoWars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See if there's anything interesting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a smart move.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, I'll tell you this.
		Something that is very interesting to me is that there is a YouTube channel that I largely get most of my episodes from.
		It's a guy named Ron Gibson, who has a channel on YouTube.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It'd be hilarious if it was Ron Gusifer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That'd be funny.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this channel is clearly in league with Alex Jones in terms of it has permission to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We post these things.
		He posts by the hour updates.
		So it's like there's a chunk of Alex's first hour, second hour, third hour as separate videos, and then a commercial-free entire show afterwards.
		So like he's every day, I don't think it's one guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't, as you're saying this, I don't understand how I never thought to ask, like, if he is just reposting Alex Jones videos, why aren't they sending DMCA complaints?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not going to be able to do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the obvious point, though, the obvious point is he works, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He works.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or it's an InfoWars operation to begin with because it also reposts all of the special reports Alex does.
		It reposts and posts as one of the only places you can find them, like The War Room and David Knight's show.
		And now we haven't even talked about this, but Mike Adams has a Sunday show now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, who cares?
		It's not important.
		Fair enough.
		So I was like, okay, that's where I get most of my episodes from.
		You go into YouTube, you search for August 16th, 2016.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's one of the only episodes that Ron Gibson does not have on his page.
		You can find August 15th.
		You can find August 17th.
		It's interesting that this episode is not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That one specific episode?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, I'll admit that there is a benign explanation that isn't entirely possible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So many benign explanations.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he was sick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe, you know, I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've had an episode go missing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That happens from time to time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It happens.
		Possibly.
		You know, there is a benign explanation that I would accept, although it looks very sketchy.
		Now, let's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that because August 15th, Roger Stone was in contact with Goosefer 2.0?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he was probably not in contact by the time Alex was on air.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		On the 15th, but on the 16th, all of that shit is wide open.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And today we're going over August 16th, 2016.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dun, dun, dun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I found another version of it not on that channel that's clearly affiliated with Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Someone else had posted it.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so now we will watch that and see if we can find any context clues as to suspicions going around.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Your knowing grin is delightful and can actually be heard through your voice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everyone is like, Dan has got something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey guys.
		Hey guys, spoiler alert.
		There's something big coming up.
		But first, let's deal with some small stuff.
		This is how Alex sort of kicks things off.
		As we know, it's something he's sort of how he makes his bread and butter.
		It's mostly white fears.
		So he's scared that the UN is going to do some bad stuff to whites.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The video that we shot on Saturday is titled Shocker: Hewin admits migrant tribunal plan to overthrow the West.
unidentified		And in their own words, this isn't accurate.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They say basically get rid of white people.
		Now, they're selling this to the 90-plus percent of the planet that isn't white, and most of which happen to be third world, that this is a reverse colonialism conquering the West.
		The third world populations are being used as cannon fodder.
		Remember the global government tree that was leaked in 2008, the Copenhagen text?
		And what did it say?
		They were going to write at double.
		It was right below doubling, one point below doubling the taxes on the third world that the West would pay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's, I mean.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand what that means.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't mean anything because he doesn't remember the details of this because it's years later.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who is paying taxes on the third world?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not at all what he's just using numbers where they don't belong.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is about this thing called the Danish text, not the Copenhagen text.
		But in fairness to Alex, it was released during the Copenhagen Climate Summit in 2009, not 2008.
		The big issue that people had with the text.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Petty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fair.
		The text, it wasn't just like a text message, like, you up?
		Okay, all right.
		You're up demo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right, Dan.
		It did seem to illustrate basically a public, or sorry, private arrangement that was being worked out in many ways to subvert the Kyoto protocols between the United States, the United Kingdom, and Denmark, at least.
		Right.
		Probably other actors involved.
		But the issue that people had with it was: one, it made a distinction between power levels of countries, which was stigmatizing to countries that were deemed vulnerable countries.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because some of them were over 9,000.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		People are going to get that, and the fact that you don't is going to make them laugh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was really trying to focus on the facts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You said power levels, so it was going to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Power level 9,000?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's over now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Powerman 5,000?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, so there's this anime.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, this is why I don't get it.
		Okay, never mind.
		Moving along.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dragon Ball Z.
		Now, Goku, he's a Saiyan.
		He's not from this country.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Go talk to Hotep Jesus about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to hear that.
		There's all kinds of stuff going on.
		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To be fair, the listeners do love your Dragon Ball Z talk, so maybe you should keep going.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then Vegeta comes.
		He's an original Saiyan.
		There's only two left from the planet, and they work for Frieza.
		It's a whole mess.
		All right, so I'm telling you right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So the second problem was that it took a lot of the negotiating power away from the UN proper and allowed other entities to have a greater stake in the implementation concerns of climate change rules and stuff like that.
		And then we get back to the numbers that Alex is talking about.
		It's not taxes.
		It made an imbalance between rich and poor countries in terms of emission standards that they would have to reach by 2050.
		For rich countries, they could admit 2.67 tons per capita as opposed to poor countries with 1.44 tons.
		So that is about double or so.
		You know, that's probably what he's talking about in terms of these numbers.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The emissions that would be allowed between these countries.
		And this caused quite a fervor during this climate change conference and led to some rank disagreements.
		And rightfully so, I think.
		I mean, I don't think it's right that these.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So if I understand.
		Let me try and rephrase this in a way that makes sense.
		If I understand correctly, the rich countries are allowed far more leeway with their emissions than the poor countries.
		Despite the fact that the poor countries probably rely further upon those emissions to not be poor in order to break out of poverty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think the guiding principle of that is something we talk about sometimes, which is a little bit perhaps idealistic, that is building up third world countries in a better way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you'd hope that just by virtue of newer technologies we have, they would have a lower emission rate, whether or not there was a cap there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, you could view it as like, well, rich people get to drive in a car four times a week and poor people get to drive in a car twice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You could.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You could.
		And no matter what, I think shadowy background deals and stuff like that.
		I do think that Alex is correct in referencing this as like something that's being done clandestinely, but he's still lying about it.
		It's one of those things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like, man, nobody wins.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of a push.
		But who cares?
		Right.
		So now we get into Alex's rambling about how he doesn't like things that are tax exempt, which fair enough.
		But then he says something really.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this is a Christian nation, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there's something he says at the end of this clip that just really made me wah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's like you see a cop car and it says tax exempt.
		The cop themselves isn't a bad person, but that idea that the state is tax exempt and can give state powers to private corporations, making themselves exempt, they then organize higher taxes on everybody else, bring in third world populations to be their enforcers, and it's game over.
		By the way, that's actually in the documents as well.
		Now they're going to use the illegals as the new constabulary.
		That means the enforcers.
		But first, they have to remove the old constabulary.
		I'm Alex Jones.
		This is the program to defeat globalism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a really bad plan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, dude, we're going to get to an even worse plan here in a little bit that he has in his mind.
		But, like, I don't know.
		All I hear there is, like, wah, and then this fear of illegals coming in as some sort of, like...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Police force.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, constabulary area.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know how the government, even under Obama, deported what, almost like a million people?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They were really planning, like in a short order, to, instead of deport people, give them badges.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then have them fight the regular cops.
		And, you know, of course, they would no longer call themselves cops.
		They would call themselves constables.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Constabulary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If there's anything I know about illegal aliens, it's that they really adhere to British customs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no doubt.
		And I mean, the other thing that you have to take away from this is like when he says the old constabulary rearry, he's not talking about the cops.
		He's talking about white people.
		It's all just replacement fears.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's talking about the KKK cops.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The KK cops.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Keystone cops.
		So, whatever.
		I don't care.
		That's just more like this is the headspace he's in.
		I still think this is more interesting than present day, quite frankly.
		Already, we're only a couple clips in, and I'm already like, I'm more interested.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, he said something interesting about that climate change agreement.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, that's an interesting thing that I didn't know that you confirmed is true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So that's fascinating.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		True, true, and a lie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like two truths and a lie game.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's sort of the best case scenario for Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we've not been playing a party game.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We haven't played two truths and a lie on this show in a long time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When we talk about the present, it's just lies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, here comes another lie.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ladies and gentlemen, we have to have a little bit of fun with the decline of finalization.
		We have to have some gallows humor, but this is going to be an incredible transmission today, particularly we had a major Stanford Research Institute study confirming Democratic election fraud on a massive scale to steal the election from Bernie Sanders.
		Now, I know you already know that.
		I know we chronicled that here on air.
		And the Republicans tried the same thing with Donald Trump, but because he fought back, they failed.
		And that is a lesson to us on every front about fighting back.
		But that is the big news today.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the big news.
		I actually disagree.
		There's much bigger news.
		But this is his big news.
		So his big news is there's this Stanford study, Stanford Research Institute study.
unidentified		Hmm.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's that noise?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's an unfamiliar noise on our phone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You just said Stanford Research Institute.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was just saying what he said.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very specifically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what he said.
		Okay.
		That's not where this came from.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Spoiler alert.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This wasn't a Stanford study, and it was not even a study.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't even get both right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't even get one right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was an unpeer-reviewed paper claiming to show election interference, citing exit polls.
		It asserted that Hillary Clinton did better in states where there was no paper trail to votes that you could follow back up on.
		But even just a cursory glimpse over their data shows that they did an incomplete job with the data.
		They counted states where there were multiple ways of voting, like paper votes, machines with a paper trail, or machines without a paper trail.
		Like if you had a state where there were multiple options and one of them was the machines with no paper trail, they just counted the entire state as one with no paper trail.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I gotcha.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They completely just had incomplete.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This would never stand up for scrutiny.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If there's a 66% paper trail, but not 100% paper trail, even like a 30% no paper trail, that counts as a no-paper trail state.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		So the issue that you come to is like, if this ever were put in front of a review board or any other researcher, they'd be like, this data is corrupt.
		It's not indicative of reality.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is some Pruitt-level data right here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You guys are so corrupt.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's nonsense.
		And further, it was not put out by the Stanford Research Institutes.
		It was written by two college students, one named Axel Gijesil of Tillsburg University in the Netherlands.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like somebody I want to trust.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Rudolfo Cortez-Barragan of Stanford University.
		And then it was disseminated on a website called The Byrne Report and published and pushed on social media.
		Even the authors admit in the paper they had no time to peer review any of their findings.
		So what this is, is something, it's classic Infowars data.
		And you know what?
		If you want to have a conversation about Bernie getting screwed, go for it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's let it go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, but I mean, there's a conversation to be had possibly about the unfairness of the Democratic National Convention.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The committees.
		Oh, do you mean like Clinton endorsing Cuomo for governor over there?
		There are a lot of examples.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But this isn't one of them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is what always strikes me and brings home how little Alex really cares about the things he's talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You could bring in something real, but instead you go for the much flashier, the fast food version that isn't actually beef or whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a reason McDonald has over $99 billion served.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And why Alex has millions of listeners.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And we have...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anyways.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, um...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever trusted anybody named Rudolfo?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think I could do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure I've ever met anyone named Rudolf.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's an untrustworthy name to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know that there's one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's too white.
		It's too white.
		The name Rudolfo is too white.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It makes me think of a reindeer from the North Pole going on vacation to Cancun and trying to fit in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's got a mustache, a fake mustache.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so he's adding some Latin flair to it, is what you're thinking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's trying to lay low during the summer months down there having some survey stuff.
unidentified		No, no, no, I am Rudolfo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		My nose glows.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The reindeer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Rojo-nosed reindeer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is that how you say red?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just know French.
		Rouge.
		Anyway, we're getting some more dumb bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Rudolph A.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We get some more dumb bullshit here, Alex, talking about these leaks of Soros' emails and memos and stuff like that.
		Sure.
		We get into a lot of that.
		He's very into that on this episode because it had only happened a couple days earlier.
		A lot of these, especially the Soros emails and memos were published mere days before this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Before you continue, and again, apologies for interrupting and screwing up the throat of the clip.
		But there is something I think is interesting about his non-point that he makes, wherein he says that the DNC was trying to steal the election from Bernie.
		Right, right.
		And then he says that the RNC was trying to steal it from Trump.
		Yeah.
		But one of them won and one of them lost, which is really interesting to me in a reflection of how politics actually works.
		Like the Republican moderate, whatever it is, have zero control anymore.
		Like it's all lunatics on the right-wing side.
		Whereas the Democrats have Republicans in control.
		Like Republicans from the 90s in control of actual progressives.
		So of course they have a larger block of like, let's, hey, guys, we can't be having these crazy ideas out there of like people's lives getting better.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		States.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We need status quo all the time.
		So it's fascinating to me that the Democratic Party is set up in such a way as they will always defeat the crazies.
		And the Republican Party is set up in such a way as they will never defeat the crazies.
		That's an interesting thing that he pointed out by accident that he doesn't even really understand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
		I found that to be an interesting thing to say.
		I apologize.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm processing it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I apologize.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm processing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's more indicative of him explaining why he has a career.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Kind of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is kind of indicative of that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And because anybody else wouldn't put up with this kind of nonsense.
unidentified		Right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And now they're developing a national police force for each of those countries, from Sweden to Germany to France.
		And they admit that they are linking up with Muslim leaders online to arrest anyone criticizing Islam in any way.
		The London mayor has also announced an initiative to arrest you and your family.
		Just like it's the new George Soros, they're going to arrest you and your family.
		Jesus is the battle plan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We have 100% arrest rate of you and your family.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'm scared of what the London mayor is trying to do as I sit here in Chicago.
		And this isn't what Sadiq Khan wants.
		This is nonsense.
unidentified		Sadiq Khan is, by all accounts, a delightful man who is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have no intention of arresting neither you nor your family nor people even broadly related to you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but this is sort of a foreshadowing of Alex becoming good friends with Tommy Robinson.
		You know, that sort of thing, where the idea of hate speech being curtailed in England and the UK is somehow like if you question Islam, you're going to prison, that sort of thing.
		Well, and I mean, like, we have to, we have to fucking pump the brakes.
		This is something Alex never does on his show because he lives in this dumb, idealistic bubble, like a child would, that imagines that every place is the same, yet he is a nationalist.
		You know that idea?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he seems to think that our Constitution applies to every country.
		And so, like, when there's hate speech laws in the UK that we don't have here, First Amendment.
		He's furious about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		First Amendment.
unidentified		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		First Amendment.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why won't they like even have his First Amendment?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why don't the British even understand the First Amendment?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's this stupid, stupid thing that's like, you want universal global laws like that, yet at the same time, you're mad at the idea.
		It's very crazy to me because I don't know enough.
		Like, I haven't done copious amounts of research into free speech laws in the UK.
		But from everything I understand, their free speech laws are not super confining.
		They aren't super repressive.
		But they do have a lot more allowances for stifling hate speech than we do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's something that's interesting to me, especially recently, because they have just recently curtailed free speech laws in a way that has not been done for a long time to the point where activists are kind of worried about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So that is such a point.
		Counterpoint to that, you know, do we have two lax free speech laws versus are we?
		Is any free, is any free speech law going to eventually lead to the sus, the suppression of speech that should be or shouldn't be suppressed?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's just fascinating now as we see the global alliance of nationalists, as though like hey hey hey hey, I hate you, join up with me let's, let's get together and get rid of all these people who aren't nationalists so we can become nationalists together.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's have a global alliance of nationalists who take out the globalists who are definitely not Jews, absolutely not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's definitely, let's definitely rely on archaic Jewish stereotypes and Anti-Semitic tropes from history in order to demonize this group that we don't like, while becoming a global entity, which is what we seem to be against in this group that we're demonizing with Anti-Semitic tropes from history.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, cool man, right on top of it cool, everything makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now I do think that your, your concern, is much more interesting and I don't know, I don't have an answer for that man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea, I don't know, I don't think, I don't believe Because it's something that comes up in stand-up a lot, this idea that you limit any speech and it limits all speech.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't really necessarily believe in that.
		Like, because we have similar versions of that.
		Like, I know it's a really hacky sort of thing to say, but like, you can get in trouble for yelling fire in a crowded building.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, you can get in trouble for threatening someone with violence.
		Like, there are already limits on free speech.
		You can't extort people.
		Like, that sort of shit.
		That's just speech, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is just speech.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're given the option to be extorted or to not be extorted.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So you can't make threats.
		You can't do that sort of thing.
		So, like, the idea that any limit on speech is a limit to all speech, I think, is contradicted by the fact that we do have just basic limitations on what is just speech.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The only argument against it is the slippery slope argument, which either comes true or doesn't, and it's not an actual argument that you can really make as something, you know, like and more importantly, the slippery slope is a logical fallacy.
		Exactly.
		Yeah.
		That's what I'm saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you make an argument based on, like, what will become of this, then all you're doing is— Or what could become of this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all fucking stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's all stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So remember earlier when I told you that Alex had a worse plan than the dumb plan you came up with?
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Listen to this shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, I came up with that plan?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		Who cares?
		Alex has a bad plan, is what I'm trying to get to.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is really happening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		First of all, I just want to pause right there just to say, anytime I hear Alex say that, it means to me this ain't happening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If it was really happening, you wouldn't need to say it was really happening.
unidentified		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the same way, clearly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As a kid, I would read Dave Berry and be like, I'm not making this up, but you're making this up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're obviously making this up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Stop selling.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But let's just go over the stack of news today on this subject alone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sex on sex, on sex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Mega banks, above the law, tax-exempt diplomatic community going in with education programs to create absolute, total, homicidal hatred of anyone with white skin and teaching them to hate capitalism and teaching them that you must go to the United States or Europe or Australia and you must capture it politically as leftists.
unidentified		Politically.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that you must then take over government and create a utopia.
		Now, this is taught in Mexico.
		This is taught in Nigeria.
		This is taught in Sedan.
		This is taught in South Africa.
		This is taught all over places like Venezuela, Nicaragua, El Salvador.
		They're all running programs as of this year.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For all of those countries, it's very reasonable to hate white people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Does he not understand why those countries, every country he's named also has like a historical event where you're like, no, you guys should hate white people forever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You need to put that aside for a second.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You missed the last thing he said there.
		And this clip isn't done.
		But the last thing he said there is these programs have been in place as of last year, which to me is like, okay, so wait, they're indoctrinating kids in school.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As of last year.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which means they're in fourth grade.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As of last year.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fifth grade.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They get a year or two of indoctrination.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's all you need.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we get 10-year-olds who now hate anyone, a homicidal hate of people with white skin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right, finish your thought out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Give them 30 more years and they're going to finish the job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's let Alex finish the job on his stupid thought.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Officially, organized with the UN to bring in people from all over the world that land on airplanes and come in on ships.
		They're not allowed to stay there.
		And then they are bussed all the way to the United States where the Border Patrol waits for them and loads them on buses to ship them into Democratic Party facilities, who then they give them ID cards, set them up on full welfare, more than a Social Security recipient.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Real quick, he is going to town with all white fears.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The real reason that he's saying that, and he made a very specific point of saying, like, they're getting more than a social security recipient is because he fucking knows that most of his audience is older than people.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified		And they're very scared of this idea that I only get $1,300 a month.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm on a fixed income.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean they get $2,000?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Meanwhile, there are very clear laws about being able to take any welfare programs if you are an immigrant who comes legally or illegally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you come illegally, there's no way you can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They've been in place since last year.
		And as we all know, Democrats had complete control of the Senate, the House, and the White House at the time, right?
		In 2015.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It definitely wasn't an entirely Republican Congress.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That'd be crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		But, you know, again, this just bears mentioning.
		Alex doesn't like those Republicans now.
		Although he did almost jizz on himself talking about how great it would be if Ted Cruz ran for president mere years earlier.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet he votes for Betto.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I bet he does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's better for him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's way better for him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would be interesting.
		But we can't speculate about someone's secret voting habits.
		But he's easy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet Ted Cruz votes for Betto.
		I want to get out.
		He is way better for this country than me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or just, I want to get out, but I can't quit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then large portions of that money is skimmed and given back to the organized crime combine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So what hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The NFL every year runs an organized crime rookie combine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They have to take the test in order to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, Oh, okay.
		So we have kids being indoctrinated in schools as of a year ago.
		And now somehow they're being sent in in league with the UN.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In league.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In order to come here, and then they are being sent to Democratic centers where they get tons of welfare, but some of it gets skimmed off the top and sent back to the Democrats.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's already really expensive.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is that their goal to begin with?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		To fly so many people from the world and then bust them, which seems like a lower innovation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if you're getting taken across the border and then bus to like Nebraska, you should get another flight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Connecting flights all day long.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They've already paid for the international flight.
		What Southwest isn't flying for like $100?
		Come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's ludicrous.
		It's ludicrous.
		Here's why.
		Because, okay, just the timeline of it makes absolutely no problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, the timeline is a good place to start.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It makes absolutely no sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're busting a lot of 11-year-olds in to vote.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I dismiss it out of hand.
		Like that part of it, I just say absolutely not.
		I reject your premise.
		Good day, sir.
		That sort of thing.
		But then when you talk about this idea that it's somehow a fraud for two reasons: one is to get people to vote Democrat, and the other one is to skim money off the top.
		Skimming money off the top, there's better scams.
		This seems like there'd be way too many cooks in the kitchen.
		Someone would talk, like, it would be so ineffective.
		This scam is no good.
		Secondarily, if you want people to vote Democrat, Alex is already claiming that they're just voting in dead people's names and stuff like that.
		So you don't need this.
		If the Democrats are really doing that, then they're just creating votes out of the ether.
		They don't need this elaborate, stupid plan.
		It makes no sense.
		None of this, even with the motivations that he's pretending these villains have.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It makes no sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All it is is to scare old white people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What they found out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What they found out.
unidentified		This is the grave diggers of political radio.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It costs $10,000 to get a dead person to vote.
		It costs $8,000 to fly in an illegal immigrant.
		This is just pure mathematics.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's just because you get to skim that $2,000.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		That's what I'm saying.
		They think dead people are voting, but it's actually illegal immigrants.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dan.
		Problem that Alex really never wrestles with is like the second and third stages of the plans that he's enumerating.
		Because the other thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Apparently, neither do the globalists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the other problem is that if this scam exists, it's got to exist counter to with all of the other like in 2016, he's still fairly pizzagated.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You've got to have that part in there, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You've also, you have to have all of his elaborate scams being all true at the same time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, they have millions of people working.
		The globalists have a global network.
		There are millions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Playing the name.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Millions of people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Millions of people working for them.
unidentified		For a lot of their scams, you don't need that many people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You need like 30 or 40 people, Max.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's got to have a job, so they've got a lot of scams going and they got a lot of plates spinning, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of fingers and a lot of pies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look, when you have that many people, you can come up with these harebrain schemes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you know what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, look, hey, sometimes companies fuck up.
		Sometimes companies do something like, yeah, we sort of fuck the dog on this one.
		Right, right, right.
		That was bad money.
		That was bad money leading money.
		You know, like, whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't worry, we've got diplomatic immunity because apparently that is something that the mega banks can have.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I love the idea, though, that this international cabal that's existed for hundreds of years that comes down from like the black nobility in Venice and stuff like that.
		Like the idea that they also come up with like shit.
		You know, like the International House of Pancakes now having to be like, hey, we were fucking with you with that burger thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're just.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You guys should have figured out the whole we're fucking with you with the burger thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You should have done better from the jump.
		You know, like you should have, instead of now being like, haha, we tricked you, like, no one was tricked.
		We all thought this was a stupid publicity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's that same level of like business activity that he's fixing into the minds of the globalists.
		I'm like, they've been around for thousands of years and secretly run everything.
		They don't make mistakes like IHOP.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody makes mistakes, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The globalists have run so many plans over the thousands of years.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They've got to come up with new shit, otherwise they get bored.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that might be the case.
unidentified		They can't just keep running the same plan over and over to keep it fresh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes you open up that marriage to crazier schemes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that might even be the case with IHOP.
		I hate to keep coming back to them, but maybe they were just bored.
		Like, we've been in a holding pattern.
		Let's embarrass ourselves.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		More pancakes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Guys, we got to do something crazy.
unidentified		We get it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have waffles.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also agree with mozzarella sticks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A little too big.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We can't call ourselves the International House of Crepes.
		Nobody's going to buy that shit.
		We hate French people in America.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I used to live near an IHOP, and me and Crepe-eating surrender monkeys is what we call them.
		They have plenty of crap.
		My dear friend Nate Burroughs and I used to go to IHOP for lunch every now and again because it was right over by my old apartment.
		Not far.
		And we would just be hungover as shit.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it was always just about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the only reason you go to IHOP.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's always about those way too big mozzarella sticks.
		That's all it was about, these giant logs of mozzarella.
		Anyway, enough about this bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		IHOM.
unidentified		This next IHOMS.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this next clip, Jordan.
		Yes.
		We have a situation where Alex, this is a little longer clip, and I actually think it's a Mike Down clip because what we see is Alex Jones being a flagrant racist and misrepresenting Tim Kaine, some comments that he had made.
		Alex makes the mistake of playing Tim Kaine's comments, and it becomes very clear what Tim Kaine means.
		And Alex just looks like a ding-dong on his own show.
		It's so embarrassing and so disgusting.
		I love it.
		I love it.
		It's so great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Mike Down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At the same time, I don't like how he never has to live with it.
		You know what I mean?
		Oh, of course not.
		This clip I'm about to play for you.
		Any right-thinking person who listened to this would be like, oh, this is a flagrant racist.
		This is a guy who's absolutely trying to turn an innocuous statement and maybe a very nice unifying statement into something that is evil and anti-white, some sort of white genocide sort of thing.
		And it's absolutely not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Any inclusive message is inherently anti-white.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Diversity is code for anti-white.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anti-white.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what white supremacists say.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And here is what Alex Jones, who's also a white supremacist, says.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to skip the network break.
		It's too important.
		I mean, I'm serious.
		This is just the end of the country, the end of the world we're talking about here.
		And the Board of Patrol even comes out and says we've been ordered to complete the smuggling process.
		That's how mega-massive all this is.
		So let's continue.
		Hillary's VP.
		We have the video of this coming up.
		Hillary's VP.
		Whites must become a minority to atone for racism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just real quick, take a second to take that in as the headline that he's reporting: whites must become a minority in order to make up for racism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, again, this is the ultimate racism to experience what other people have gone through because only whites have oppressed anybody in history.
		Total lie.
		We must make whites a minority so they can be persecuted.
		Is what he's saying.
		And this is a white guy who's going to lead this and organize all the different racial groups who they're going to put your kids in prison and teach them in the prison, according to different racial groups, how to kill each other.
		He's going to manage you, but he's selling it to you, the party of the KKK.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's particularly funny, considering racial incarceration rates, for Alex to be making this sort of stupid argument.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's put white people in prison.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		As your new time to shine, this is incredible.
		In fact, let's just play the clip of the man that would be the vice president, probably the president when Hillary, you know, that brain tumor goes ahead and eats the rest of that melon.
		Here it is.
unidentified		For instance, the most segregated hour of the week is 11 o'clock Sunday morning, and that was a challenge to me.
		And so I've made my spiritual home in a neighborhood where we're not segregated.
		In fact, we were, when we started there, one of a few white families in that church.
		It's now a very well-integrated church, but it was important to, especially, I think the burden is on those of us who are in a majority, you know, Caucasians here.
		We've got to put ourselves in situations where we're in the minority.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so there are the world is officially 90% Anglo.
		And then if you look at the numbers, there's about 3% of that are people that are identifying as Anglo that you could argue aren't.
		What?
		7% of the planet is Anglo.
		Okay?
		But you would think it was the end of the world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, why?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Why people even exist?
		So I apologize for Europe, and I apologize for the printing press, and I apologize for the science and the medicine and everything else.
		And I just am here to say this guy's absolutely right.
		No, this is a sick, evil race pimp.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great, great, great, great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Go for it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		3%.
		3% identify as Anglo, but aren't.
		So we've got, not only is Rachel Dolezal a non-outlier, she's just even crazier for doing it the wrong way.
		Because what she should be doing is identifying as white accidentally or incorrectly.
		3%?
		What?
		What is 3%?
unidentified		Who?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's the 3%?
		It's Jews, right?
		He's talking about Jews.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I can't imagine it's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's talking about Jews.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I feel, I feel like my.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he's not talking about black people just saying they're white.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My spidey sense tells me.
		Well, I don't know, because what's this?
		No, that's trends and growth.
		I'm trying to find demographic information.
unidentified		I should have looked that up earlier, but it's just it's just it, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It feels like that's what he's saying.
unidentified		It.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just 500 million Chinese people saying that they're white.
		That's all he's talking about.
		He's just talking about the very well-publicized 500 million Chinese people who say that they're white.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the, like, I want to say, I mean, even without us being able to say exactly what he's talking about, the idea of like, nah, you're not white is the whitest thing ever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The idea that he has like an exclusivity, which is what we talk about all the time, is the notion of whiteness is based on exclusion, not on inclusion.
		I don't know.
		You know, I don't.
		I don't.
		Man, I don't know.
		I wish I had those numbers.
		I think that's what I'm saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really want to know what is the who he's talking about.
		Like, who does it, like, swarthy Italians?
		The Greeks?
		Like, what is he talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Any white person with a tan?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what the issue is?
		It's like, no matter what the answer is, it's bad.
		No matter what, it's like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, if he's talking about the Irish, you know what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go fuck yourself, Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've been the whitest for a long time.
		There's no sun where we come from.
		We were grown in whiteness.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's disgusting that that's sort of his take on, like, how am I going to respond after this clip that I maybe should have listened to before I played?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because what Tim Kaine is saying is a really good message.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is to say that he's telling a personal anecdote about the idea that he, you know, church is one of the more segregated places in the world.
		You have denominations and churches that are primarily black, primarily white, and the twain doesn't usually meet.
		And his idea of going into places that are not, where you are the minority, is something that is very helpful for everyone.
		Yeah.
		The idea that here's what I want to say.
		I was rambling around a little bit, but if you hear what Tim Kaine said and you are against it, what you are against is integration.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I never want to be around too many black people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or I only want it on my terms.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I only want it if they come to me and come to my white barbecue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't that sound right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The idea that Tim Kaine is espousing in that clip is that it behooves you to put yourself in situations where you get to experience other people's cultures because that is a respectful and empowering and enlightening thing to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And you know what else you learn by that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What else he's also really talking about is so many white people, so many white people have never had the experience that black people have just about every day where they're going into a situation where it's majority white people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It creates empathy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It creates everything on that level and on the level of learning about how cultures actually work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You learn about something instead of having a caricature of it from dumb right-wing news sites.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, and in my world, and you know clearly, how many times have you seen a young white comic go into a primarily black room and be like, I don't know how to act right now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like their jokes get thrown off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've seen much more examples of like because I generally knew decent comics.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Many more times I saw them go in and it be no big deal.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not because people pandered or anything, but because when you go into situations where you are the minority, you realize that it's not as big a deal as you think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not a big deal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You create unless you make it a big deal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bingo.
unidentified		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bingo.
		You create this image in your head that, like, everyone there is going to think I'm the other or any of that stuff.
		And generally people aren't doing that.
		That's you.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's you thinking that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I cherish so much the ability that I had growing up to be in so many different communities because, like I said, I talked about this before.
		My dad was a religious studies professor.
		And so he had friends that were like in mosques.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		From all different faiths and walks of life.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we would spend time at the synagogue, at the mosques, and have break bread with all these families and go to their houses for whatever holidays, the various faiths.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's such a rewarding thing because sometimes, I'll be honest, I'm a picky eater and I didn't like the food all that much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		it wasn't you know it wasn't about that it was about i think you just dog whistled your white bona fides i really don't like much food I'm a picky eater.
		I'm a big chicken strips guy.
		That's the whitest thing you can say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I already said I went to IHOP very frequently.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not like I don't have a lot of food cred outside of spiciness.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But see, I had the complete opposite experience.
		And that's the thing.
		When I was growing up, I only was around white people.
		It wasn't until I moved away that it was like, oh, I am interested in experiencing other cultures and meeting other people.
		And I feel like if my family, if so many families just gave themselves the opportunity to go to places where they're not white, all of a sudden a lot of those conservative viewpoints just disappear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the untrue parts do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's the fears and the othering goes away when you recognize, quite legitimately, everybody has so much more in common than they have out of common.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Infinitely more in common.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And for Alex to be fighting back against that and arguing that's a race pimp argument is crazy.
		And I made a point of stopping the clip early to say he's presenting it as like the headline is whites need to become the minority.
		Tim Kane didn't say that.
		He's saying putting yourself in situations where you aren't the, you know, it's not all white people is very rewarding and it helps it helps everybody.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It helps you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It helps everyone else.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just imagine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because we all come together.
		We have all much more empathy.
		We have much more understanding as opposed to staying in our stupid bubbles and listening to World Met Daily, Bright Bart and Jerome Courcy and all these white supremacist narratives.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Think about every single black child who was on the vanguard of school integration in the 60s.
		You will never experience that.
		If you're a white person, how could you ever even consider judging somebody who has been through that unless you spend a lot of time being in the minority in a lot of situations?
		You'll never comprehend it.
		And if you judge them for their experience, you're a fucking idiot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's all you can be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the part that's much more difficult for me to talk about, but I understand is just as valid and absolutely more real, which is the fact that the other, I only say the other because we're white.
		Or, like, anyone else who is not in the Caucasian situation has to deal with that critical time.
		The Caucasian situation.
		I'm sure there's a neo-Nazi act called that.
		I'm positive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would go the other way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think there's a black nationalist group called the Caucasian Situation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I bet there's both.
		Just one has a Z and the other doesn't.
		That's what I'm guessing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But the white has the Z. One has the SS as a Z.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the, yeah, it's more difficult for me to talk about that because it's an experience I don't have and it's impossible for me to really even relate to necessarily, except for my limited version of being in situations where I was.
		And even when I was in fucking elementary school, I was in Hawaii.
		Like when I was for a couple years in elementary school, we lived in Honolulu, and me and my brother were two of four white kids in the entire school.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So when did you move back to America?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, ah!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the mainland.
		We came back in 94, I think, went to Missouri.
		But like, you know, I came back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Might as well have lived in Puerto Rico.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're so far from America.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even that hillbilly would say Puerto Rico.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't know my hillbillies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I only know the Mississippi.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You only know your hillbillies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But like, yeah, I mean, I had that experience, but it wasn't as sincere.
		You know what I mean?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It never will be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's no way for a white person to ever understand what it's like to be black in America.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's case closed.
		Yeah.
		So let's move on to this next clip.
		Anyway, my point of all that, I believe, is that Alex is like, in real time, you can see him just completely lying about Tim Kaine's comments.
		And it's the only reason to lie about that is to stoke white fear and racial division.
		And the idea that he's arguing that he is trying to create racial division is ludicrous and very irresponsible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, you know what?
		Whenever I hear somebody call for empathy, my first thought is, you want to kill whites.
		That's obvious.
		What else could there be to think if you're what are you asking me to put myself in like somebody else's walk of life?
		That is trying to kill white people.
		And you know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You sound like you would not be in the minority in Alex Jones' cookout.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, you know what's strange?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I kind of think that that idea of white identity is kind of built around, as you said earlier, it's built around exclusion, not inclusion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So in a certain sense, you could say he's correct.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The idea of empathy directly counters white people, which is why, as my campaign statement, soft yes on white genocide.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's move forward.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In this next clip, remember how we talked about Sadiq Khan earlier, about how he's a monster?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he's a great, he's a great guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex thinks he's a monster.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he's even a good mayor.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, everybody really likes him as a mayor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you don't know some of the stuff Alex knows.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Soros hack reveals plot behind Europe's refugee crisis, media manipulation, cash for social justice.
		Call in the groups.
unidentified		I feel like that's a good trade.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Keep them under your control.
		Get them on welfare.
		Detonate.
unidentified		Burn cities.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then start banning people's free speech to criticize your own program.
		Advertise Europe's open.
		Advertise all the free goodies are there.
		We're getting to that next.
		Get ready for it.
		Boom.
		London mayor to set up police online hate crime hub.
		This guy is a Muslim.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just want to say that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He knows he wants to read a law.
		He says he will not follow the Brexit and will make London an Islamic state.
		Basically, they are banning images of women in bathing suits on city-owned property billboards and buses.
		Hitting and hitting hard.
		They're putting Muslim police chiefs in almost everywhere.
		I mean, it is on, and the reign of terror is on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's astonishingly racist.
unidentified		I mean, that's really racist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Muslims can't be cops.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if they are cops, they can't be like a general of the cops.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, they're terrorists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They have to be terrible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If Muslims are police chiefs, that's a reign of terror because we just put terrorists in charge of the police.
		And we can't do that.
		We need white terrorists in charge of the police, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is fundamentally like, without any deconstruction, that is some flagrantly racist shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is really racist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we can.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is old guy at a park racist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's split this a tiny bit just because the rebuttal is always that Muslim isn't a race, so it can't be racist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bye, You mean brown?
unidentified		Fuck off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I only brought that up so you could make that rebuttal, which I agree with.
		This is crazy.
		I mean, this is patent nonsense.
		Yeah.
		It's all just in response to the idea of trying to do a better job about systematic racial and religiously based hatred that exists online.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if you don't even, if you want to pretend to entertain his argument, replace Muslim with black, and you clearly see how racist it is.
		No, you also have all of these, all of these black people are becoming police chiefs.
		It's clearly a reign of terror.
		Like, what are you fucking talking about, you old fucking racist piece of shit?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've experienced that in the past, too.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, we've experienced it pretty much word for word in the past.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all the same shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you let black people become president, and then they're everywhere.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Man, I told you, I texted you this, and like, this is something that's so, like, it's nuts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I had a passing understanding, and, like, I knew a bit about, you know, the white nationalist uprisings that happened in the 90s and some of that shit in the 80s.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I didn't know nearly as, like, I'd never watched videos of their leaders talk.
		You know?
		I watched this documentary the other day about Oklahoma City and about the roots of it.
		You know, obviously the roots were in Ruby Ridge and Waco.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Should have never given you that Netflix password.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but I'd seen similar things in the past.
		But what really, like, and I could have watched this documentary in the past and not gotten as much from it as I did.
		And what I got from it is watching the white separatist leaders from the early days talk, they use the same language that Alex does now.
		Like, it's a parallel.
		It's bizarre to watch.
		If you go back and watch these guys who had that compound in northern Idaho, you go and listen to those white supremacists give their sermons.
		There's so much talk about sovereignty.
		There's so much talk about the ethnic identities.
		There's so much talk about this replacement fear.
		It's all in there.
		Everything is the same.
		And that makes me think that we have been doing nothing for two years because it's like, yeah, you could just look at that and be like, yeah, that's what Alex is doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what he's doing.
		Who was it?
		I think.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It helps me out a little bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's very obvious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I read somebody recently who put forth a solid statistical argument for white supremacy showing up in full strength every 30 years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, it may just be correlation, but his main point was like, all right, so we got a shit ton of white supremacy now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What was 30 years before this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The neo-Nazi movement.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What was 30 years before that?
		That was the Nazi movement.
		What was 30 years before that?
		That was pre-Depression crash when everybody was totally against Jews and blacks and everything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		30 years before that is probably when the protocols were coming around.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was the 1890s and 30 years, but it seems, and 30 years before that was the Civil War.
		Like, it's a weird, it's a weird coincidence.
		It's like somebody arguing that the full moon changes things where you're like, no, it fucking.
		It's a blood moon.
		It's just you can see it and you associate it with it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It might just be that we never learn from our mistakes and history has a way of going underground and then coming back up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What was it?
		History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes something along those lines.
		That was the classic quote.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a remix.
		Yeah.
		So the one thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just like R. Kelly and his, never mind.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The one thing that is not a remix and that is always consistent through history.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The original version of Ignition.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones makes bad predictions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's one of his predictions from August.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm always excited for a prediction.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of 2016.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We talked to our contact.
		We talked to our pipeline to the Secret Service.
		And they added some very important information.
		Dealing with Hillary staging a false flag against herself, an assassination attempt that lines up with our other information that comes from another source from another agency.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sounds all fake to me, baby.
		Hillary's going to false flag herself.
		Cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That seems like a dangerous plan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, big time.
		And dumb.
		Very dumb.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very, very dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we know that didn't happen, and none of this happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Although the accidental headline of like, can a woman with permanent brain damage become president?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, dude.
		Yeah.
		I mean, you heard that earlier when you were talking about that tumor eats the rest of her melon.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's deep in the, like, she's about to die.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, for sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I didn't, I didn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Haven't you seen those pictures where she has bags under her eyes?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's clearly deaf.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't leave in most of the times he's talking about that, but I would say a good third of this show is just him being like, she's going to die anyway.
		She's in a wheelchair secretly.
		That sort of thing.
		Like, oh, boy.
		Okay.
		So we know from that clip that Alex's prediction is bad, but he has sources.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Multiple sources.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One who has the information, one who has confirmed the information.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Got two sources.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, there's two sources that he cites in this next clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, now, admittedly, Zach is not on the run yet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, nor is he even in the fold.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but he could be in play.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But all that aside, those aren't credible sources because they're probably made up.
		These sources are real.
		See if you can figure out what sources he's deriving some of his information from.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We are under attack.
		This is the 21st century war.
		It's economic.
		It's replacing humans.
		It's destroying the family.
		It's turning us all against each other.
		This is a scientific attack.
		And they tell you what they're doing in the movie The Kingsman.
		They dumb it down that a wavelength's being sent out over the cell phones to cause our primitive brains to kick on and make us kill each other.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's one of the sources.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That is a dumbed-down allegory of what's actually going on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's a villain allegories.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's working with other billionaires to wipe out the population of the earth 99% to bring in a utopia.
		Now, you may have heard of that theme before.
		Moon Raker.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Second person.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In the 60s by Ian Fleming.
		Moonraker.
		Telling you what happened.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The worst game movie.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The allegory of going up into space while you bioweapon the whole earth.
		You could put the biological pathogen runs its course.
		Like in 12 monkeys, phases out, is designed to mutate until it's no longer harmful.
		Like in this earth and repopulate it with your eugenics dream.
		They're telling you the plan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like an Andrama and dramatistrain.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, how many more movies would you like this exact same theme to be in?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or even take that out of it and just choose another science fiction movie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, you could play this game with any movie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's like inner space.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's how we developed our new surgery techniques.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Osmosis Jones was a documentary.
		Who cares?
		Like, just fucking stop it.
		You know, like, this sort of thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We never went to the moon, but journey to the center of the earth was true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		A remake, not the original.
		I mean, this is just the sort of stuff that's embarrassing.
		That's just like, I mean, I don't know.
		Like, if you had a point, you wouldn't constantly reference movies.
		You know what I'm saying?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which he doesn't like because Hollywood is a liberal propaganda machine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Part of the globalists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But they have to reveal his plan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why he watches every movie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's why he watches every movie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So stupid.
unidentified		But anyway, so at this point, we've have we ever actually.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So you've done a lot of great work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Cataloging all of Alex Jones's beliefs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not all of them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have you considered also cataloging all of his movie references and kind of developing a unified field theory of what Alex Jones prefers in a movie?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because I feel like he's a huge science fiction buff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, but that's just the dreams of men.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, like, he's like a surprisingly science fiction buff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and we'll get into that a little bit later.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He says something a little bit later that's like, oh, I get everything.
unidentified		And not just that, he's like a fan of David Lynch.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, he's all over the place, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I think he was a fan of David Lynch because David Lynch agreed to come on his show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think I don't think he's actually a Lynchian guy.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, he didn't get the.
		Wait, no, he did get the.
		No, he didn't.
		He didn't get the OJ in Lost Highway.
		Was it Lost Highway?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think anyone got Lost Highway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it was.
		Fuck it.
		Whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whenever he got it way wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's the point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've been talking for about an hour now about some of these petty narratives that he brings up.
		And the reason that you can't ignore them are the things like Tim Kaine, that clip, stuff like that, that are just outright.
		This is so fucking racist.
		The stuff about Sadiq Khan.
		It's crazy.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
		So when I'm listening to that, I can't ignore that.
		But when I got to this next clip, it was when I was like, oh no, I was right to go back to this episode.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it starts with Alex rambling about George Soros, and then something happens.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There's no future under this new world order, and I don't care whether it's MI6 or the CIA or the FBI or Jason or the Russians.
		Everybody is coming together and realizing this new world order has got to be stopped.
		I mean, we're going to let some 87-year-old crazy Nazi collaborator Freakazoid become president and bring us into world financial ruin because he wants to lord over a bunch of poor people because he's an asshole.
		Excuse me using that term.
		I apologize.
		Because it's not strong enough for him.
		He is a demonic demon who wants to run the world.
		And of course, he can't do that because of business.
		He can't do it because of free market.
		He can't dominate.
		So he has to blow it all up to say he rules it.
		I've got to read this.
		Hold on one second.
		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Prep.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Remember that thing I said earlier about that particular article?
		Like I said, post it under our byline.
		Entire thing, please.
		Thank you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he got a text in the middle of this show from somebody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We all know who that is.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Gustafer 2.0.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Roger Stone.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He got a text from Roger, and I'm certain it's from Roger because he goes on to say this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, let's go ahead and get to this article that Roger Stone wrote for the Hill newspaper.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He also sent it to us to post at Infowars.com.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, Roger Stone.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Can the 2016 election be rigged?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You bet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Roger Stone...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
unidentified		Wait, wait, wait, wait.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You might need a while to decompress on this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
		Wait.
		Hold on.
		Yep.
		If you are telling me this correctly, this is the day after.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is the day after.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		August 16th, 2016.
		The day after he had absolutely been in contact with Gustav 2.0.
		He writes an article.
unidentified		He literally said the election can be rigged.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Oh, God.
		He's fucked.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's so fucked.
		He's establishing a narrative using InfoWars as the conduit for it to put it out.
		I guess he had a byline on the Hill 2.
		I'm not entirely sure.
		I was only able to find the article on InfoWars.
		I could find the article, and it's just about how Hillary is going to rig the election.
		The evidence that he cites primarily comes from that Stanford article that is not a study, Stanford paper, a peer-reviewed paper.
		He uses that as an extrapolation point and then talks about how a bunch of voting machines can be hacked, which is a very valid concern.
		But he uses that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he uses that to create a primary narrative that Trump is going to lose by hacking or something like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is sort of the backdoor way of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know you are, but what am I?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Exactly.
		Creating that foundation because it's important to do that when you're doing that.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's really smart, though.
		Very.
		It's fun.
		Like, every time they said when they go low, we go high.
		You look back at that and you're like, oh, going low is so much more successful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also, cheating wins.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other problem, too, is that the reality of the conversation the Democrats probably should have been having had all the information been out on the table and known is that they go low, they're going lower than you think.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like that's the issue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like Trump insulting that Gold Star family.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty fucking low.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's low.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty fucking low.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But behind this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was actually disguising how much lower they were going at the same time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		It's the matador flipping a red cape to get you to charge that direction instead of hitting you.
		And I mean, look, there's no way to slice this.
		This is very clear to me what's going on.
		Like, this is Roger Stone creating this essentially straw man.
		He's doing this because he's in contact with Russian intelligence agents.
		I don't believe for a goddamn second that the emails and the private messages that have been released are the only messages.
		Of course not.
		That's not even a possibility in my mind.
		There's no chance of that.
		And the fact that he's not named in that indictment is damning to him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because if he was named in that, it would be different.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're saving some of that because they have more information.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, of course.
		If they had named him in the indictment, then you would know he was not part of the thing.
		The fact that they kept it out of the indictment suggests that they are going to indict him with the same.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or there's tons more information that's yet to be connected, which I would argue is probably further communiques, further information that the probe, the Mueller probe, has that we don't have.
		To me, when I see that, I'm like, Roger's fucked.
		And I want to look at, and I still think he's cut a deal, quite frankly.
		But when I saw that and I was like, let's look back at this next day in 2016, and I saw that Alex's main archive YouTube channel doesn't have this episode up.
		And then I listen to it, and Alex gets a text while he's on air to publish this article about how Hillary is going to steal the elections.
		Is election fraud possible?
		You bet.
		Like, that sort of thing.
		That to me, that to me is fucking clearly indicative of something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Again, goddamn it.
		The balls on this guy to have a conversation about rigging the election and then the next day write an article about how they're rigging the election.
		Like, his article should have just been like, can you rig an election?
		You're goddamn right.
		That's what I've been doing my whole years, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, it gets so much worse.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Put your mic down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And there's going to be more hacks.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		A little bird told me there were other hacks that have certain parties directing the fraud and preparing in the general election and organizing the illegals to vote and the dead people to vote.
unidentified		Oh, I'm afraid all the emails will be released before you have the election.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And no amount of false flags, Soros, are going to put that genie back in the little bottle.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You can run on for a long time, creepy man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Alex, you just admitted that you have advanced notice of things that are to come and the content of those things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what that proves, though?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex thinks Hillary is going to win.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, that is the only way that you become the weakest of links because this episode is like, you could just throw this in court and everybody's like, oh, yeah, yeah, he got the text that said.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this whole thing happened.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is, and then he said on air the shit that was going down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the only way, the only way it would not be investigated is if Hillary won.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		I mean, this should be played in court.
		Like, yeah, absolutely.
		This episode is so clear.
		Like, the brazenness and the ha ha ha aspect of him being like, oh, a little birdie.
		It's fucking Roger Stan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody knows that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That there's going to be more leaks.
		And it's months before the Podesta emails come out.
		Like, before Roger is like, your time in the barrel is coming.
		Like, all of this stuff is still to come.
		Roger absolutely has advanced knowledge of the things that are about to be released.
		And Alex is reporting this stuff from DC Leaks, which is another outlet from the GRU.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As we now know.
		Like, this is very clear.
		Like, I don't know any other way to slice that.
		I think Alex actually doesn't know.
		Like, I think he's stupid.
		Yeah.
		I think that he doesn't really.
		He's a useful idiot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is why we talk about Alex is because he is the weakest link.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If he has any information to throw away.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's my first piece of evidence about that.
		No one, no one who knew the details of this stuff would come on air and laugh about how I've been told there's more stuff coming and I know what's in it.
		Yeah.
		And then earlier on the show be like, I don't care if it's the Russians or something like that.
		Like when he said earlier.
		There's no way he would do that sort of thing unless you were.
		I think at this point, quite frankly, Alex might be.
		This sort of behavior indicates that he's on the outest, most outermost level of the circle.
		That Roger is using him as a way to disseminate information and is going to be sold out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's no way that Roger only texted Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, obviously, one of the other people in that indictment was Lee Stranahan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he's boy.
		He's mixed up in this pretty hard too.
		And you have to and got sued along with Alex and is deeply involved.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And you have to imagine that a lot of conservative media was given this information as well.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they would not talk about it because they were like, this is a bad idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Someone had the restraint to be like, oh, shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		And only, and that's where that's fascinating because that's why it wound up in The Hill.
		It's because The Hill was like, well, clearly this isn't true.
		It's coming from Roger Stone.
		And the people that Roger texted at Breitbart or Fox News or whatever are like, oh, shit, Roger, you're committing all the crimes.
		We can't talk about this.
		Otherwise, you've got a paper trail.
		And Alex is like, fuck yeah, throw it on the air, baby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I will.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No one's going to believe this shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'll reveal that I know more.
		And it's just like when I heard that last clip where he's just like laughing about knowing what's coming and there's more this, like, it's the same thing with that time he talked about talking to Russian intelligence when he thought it was RT.
		Yeah.
		Like it's the same thing that a lot of people would hear that and be like, well, he's just lying about this.
		And I get that.
		I understand.
		He's a liar.
		I understand that.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is what makes him so useful in disseminating that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the plausible deniability of that is what's useful.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I can tell at this point, like, I can tell sincerity from lying in him, I believe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		From listening to my Malcolm Gladwell level of Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		An insane amount.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have a pretty keen sense of when he's trying to cover something up and when he's being sincere.
		And to me, I hear this, and I got like my heart was fluttering.
		I was like, why did you say that?
		And why is this episode not on your channel anymore?
		Well, I'm just because you said that.
		That's a really big deal now.
		The idea of when did Roger know X, Y, or Z?
		That's a huge deal in terms of the indictments and in terms of his testimony that he gave to the House Judicial Committee.
		Like, that's a really fucking serious issue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it.
		Are we going to become material witnesses?
		No one cares.
unidentified		Do we email fucking?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Mueller, do we have a Mueller email address?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have a faith.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Robert Mueller at FBI.gov.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have a certain amount of faith that if we know this, then they do too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I kind of don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think there's any way that a serious investigator would be like, well, obviously we have to listen to one million hours of info work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe not a million, but go to the dates that are important.
		But I would also argue that if we jumped to this date at a different point in time, we absolutely wouldn't have missed it entirely.
		We would have just been like, Alex here's being fucking weird with that laugh or whatever.
		And I'll tell you what, I would say that even more things he says later in this episode make it look even worse for him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Check out this next clip.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Toros needs to be arrested right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If he goes to Russia, he will be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if that's an endorsement or an indictment.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's indicative of where Alex's head is at.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Generally speaking, if you go to Russia and are arrested, I'm probably on your side.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You might be a journalist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You might be someone who opposes Putin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, hold on.
		If you get it in the opposition party, if you get arrested, you're not a journalist.
		If you get killed, you're a journalist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, not all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you get arrested, you're just a political prisoner.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hashtag not all journalists.
		You get killed.
		Just most.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Minus one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, dude, yeah, I mean, like, who cares?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's just like, I mean, even when we were looking at 2015, he kept being like, Putin is the answer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So hearing, like, pro-Russia shit is not, like, in any way, uh, but that's not, that's not pro-Russia shit so much as that is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, so much as it is pro-autocrat shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it's pro-Russia in as much as he's saying that George Soros should be arrested by our government.
		Yeah.
		Russia's government would do it.
		Ergo, they're better.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I shouldn't be like Russia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is pro-autocrat, but it's also specifically pro-Russia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it could also be shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that Hungary?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in Ukraine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		It could be that one fuck I.
		No, not.
		Yeah, yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Erdogan wants him out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Turkey, for sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's a bunch of horrible states.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm sure he was a huge fan of.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Societies have been kicked out of, and they are Parsona non grada.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Generally speaking, they're the places where you have nationalist uprisings.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Crazy quote.
		Crazy.
		It's crazy that he would be technically speaking or perhaps by word of mouth against the cultural revolution that Mao put forth, and yet at the same time for what could be described as the exact same fucking thing that Erdogan did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not important, sir.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good call.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is important, but there's more important things here.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is, Jordan, this clip blew my fucking mind.
		And I know that we just played a clip where it could literally be evidence in a federal trial if someone gets their hands on that.
		Because I think the timeline is very, very, very sketchy.
		But I think that this next clip is even more mind-blowing in some ways.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Langley has been a donor to our podcast for a long time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're talking about my old college friend Travis Langley.
		Went out, did some firefighting after college.
		He's a good man.
		As far as I know, I haven't spoken to him in 89 years.
		But anyway, Travis, shout out.
		How's it going?
		This next clip, dude, is so fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The next episode we do is like, apologies for shouting him out.
unidentified		He was convicted of sexual assault two weeks ago.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure not.
		He was one of those fun guys that I don't know how much I want to get into.
		He was one of those guys that could drink as much as me in college.
		And then we, because of that, ended up sort of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Together a lot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because everybody else is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Then he would throw a charge on me and shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was a good time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was a good time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sounds like somebody is going to be convicted two years ago.
unidentified		Never mind.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't say such things, but my dear friend Lionley.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, this next clip, like I said, is profoundly fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe half of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But the part that you do believe is troubling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I want it all to be true just because of the fun world that it creates in my head.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, reportedly, Hillary talks like a sailor, just walks around with her sleeves rolled up, punching Bill Clinton in the face before she was so ill.
		I mean, she did a piece of work.
		And just, well, you know, stealing not just the cutlery and plates, but furniture.
		I mean, they're just total criminals.
		They are trash.
		They are filth.
		Obama doesn't steal stuff out of the White House, and he's polite to people.
		The Clintons, you know, I really think the Clintons are worse than Obama.
		In fact, I'm sure of it.
		I mean, Obama's got some evil energy about him, and he wants to bring the U.S. down a few pegs, and he is an Islamicist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		That's just a big.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's a horrible person.
		He's horrible.
		But it really shows you something that Hillary behind the scenes isn't ever nice.
		It's one thing, you know, high pressure.
		This is media.
		I get mad.
		People have arguments.
		That goes on, but then I'm sorry for it later.
		Folks that are rude to me are sorry.
		I mean, she doesn't give people tips.
		You can't look her in the eyes.
		She loves to get people fired.
		She loves to fire people.
		She loves to rub stuff in.
		She loves to gloat over pettiness.
		Hillary Clinton does not give tips.
		I mean, I get a good feeling out of being middle class and having some extra money.
		And when somebody does service, giving them a 20, 25% tip.
		Bad service?
		I'm not sorry they complain, but if somebody's bad enough that I want to give them a tip, I call them over and say, you're rude, and you need to get ahead in life and not act so, you know, have such an attitude problem.
		Well, and then I'll say, I mean, my family hates when I do this, but I'm all about getting past comfort zones.
		And I'll say real nice, and I'll say something wrong.
		Yeah, I'm really having a bad day.
		Okay, well, you still have a 15% tip then, but try having a better attitude.
		You really gave us attitude and everything, and it makes you not want to come to this restaurant anymore.
		See, I mean, I'm all about really getting past comfort zones with people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I read that post-mortem book on Hillary's campaign.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't remember this one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's called Doesn't Tip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and even that book, which is insanely critical of her campaign and the way that it was run, even that book never says she didn't even tip 15%.
		Like, you would have known.
		You went to dinner with people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But like, all that, I don't give a shit.
		Like, oh, that's just sort of Alex rambling and trying to fill time.
		But I love the image of Alex Jones trying to give therapy to a waiter.
		Hey, what's going on with you, buddy?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		Do you know what?
		I can't imagine that for a fucking day.
		I genuinely believe.
		And this hurt me because I genuinely believe wait staff should be a protected class.
		Like, if you're an asshole to your wait staff, that is borderline a hate crime.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's definitely abuse.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's targeted abuse.
		What are you fucking doing?
		Oh, I'm only going to give you 15%, but I'm going to give it talking to.
		I guarantee you.
		No, because 95% of any wait staff I've ever met would be like, I would prefer you give me $0, but no speech.
		Then 15% and a talking to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but this is the perfect example of the, like, when we talk about being able to suss out lie from truth in Alex, like, the truth is, I know about something that's, I have been told I have advanced knowledge of this stuff.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The lie is I'm going to really, really play up how empathic I am.
		I care about people.
		Like, that is a lie because he fleshed it out into an elaborate scenario where everyone hates when I do this, but I always just tell people, what, are you having a bad day?
		I'm still going to tip you anyway, but you need to really know that that makes me not want to come in here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If Alex gives details, he's lying.
		Yeah, exactly.
		His truths are, well, I did this, and then, you know, no big deal.
		His lies are like, and then I was born from the son of Kalel, and I went to this restaurant, and there were eight old ladies, but two of them were wearing hats.
		Like, what are you fucking talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not a perfect one-to-one example, but it's on the same episode, so it bears like pointing out, like, that's a lie.
		What he said earlier is him representing truth.
		Yeah.
		Now we get back to the hack stuff, and Alex says some really fucking unfortunate things that I believe make this episode, this August 16th episode, like next level weird.
		Listen to this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we got some big story for you.
		Notice mainstream media attacks me all the time on stuff.
		Silence about our leak.
		Come out and say I'm a liar.
		Hey, why didn't the Secret Service drop by?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He called it our leak.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a Freudian slip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's a normal thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's our leak.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's our leak.
		It's like a general leak.
		It's the American People's League.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's the missing leak.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's Bigfoot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That means that he thinks he's a part of a team.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you a question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That means that he thinks that this is something that we are doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's something that someone named Roger Stone has lied to him and told him that's what we're doing with the help of, of course, Steve Pieczenik.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If I remember correctly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		On August 16th.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably Larry Nichols, but he's way more on the side.
unidentified		Well, on August 16th, I wasn't ready.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's still around.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So on August 16th, the information, though, had not actually been leaked.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Correct?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Most of it had.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Most of it had.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a couple of days earlier, but a lot of people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so a couple of days earlier.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Well, the Soros emails had been leaked.
		The Podesta emails had not.
		That was the big dump that came in October.
		So there is a beginning of it, but not an end.
		We're in the middle of it at this point.
		And the only reason that this date is relevant to choose is that it's literally the next time Alex was on air after we know that Roger Stone was in touch with Goosebumps 2.0.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's the only reason that we choose this date.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I bet if we go to the 17th, he says some more incriminating shit, but maybe not as incriminating.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Our leak.
unidentified		Our leak.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a super incriminating statement.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it means to me.
		Here's what it means to me.
		And I take this from also this next clip.
		Listen to this next clip, and then I'll explain what I mean by what I think about him saying our leak.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe Biggs is going to be popping in later in the interview with more info.
		He got the conduit.
		I'll just leave it at that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Pizzagate Joe Biggs has not been fired yet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's still around.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he has information that's come from his conduit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll leave it at that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then I'm going to talk to him about how he thinks this whole plan is going.
		How's it going for Soros when we know that intelligence agencies, private corporations, and other groups are now hacking the Democratic Party, the entire Democratic Party, the entire Soros operation, the Clintons.
		It's all going to get data dumped.
		And I've been contacted now to confirm.
		Earlier stuff was the Russians.
		The carbon taxes being exposed, the high of the decline, climate gate stuff, that is the Russians.
		And the Russians are actively penetrating stuff.
		But this is not the Russians.
		This is U.S. intelligence agencies leaking right now, risking their lives because they know something we don't know about Hillary that's so bad it's finally turned basically the whole government against him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here's what's going on.
		Alex has high-end dudes like Eric Prince in Blackwater.
		You have people like Steve Pieczenik and Roger Stone that are lying to him and confirming details amongst themselves that they're trying to tell him that, like, yeah, yeah, the Russians hacked a bunch of stuff before and they're still trying stuff, but this isn't them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This one isn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This specific one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That we desperately need you to think isn't them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is actually the Patriots.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The U.S. intelligence within the services because Hillary has gone too far.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this is why.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even though, which we now know, they have spent hours upon hours upon hours upon hours upon years actually disproving that Hillary has committed any crime in the specific way that Alex is describing.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She's committed crimes, but not these ones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just fucking, it's insane to me, like, how, like, again, I hate to keep saying a right-thinking person because that becomes so much like a, what do you think that is?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think someone who's not infected with brainworms.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's go with reasonable thinking person.
unidentified		Sure.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've been trying to train myself to not say reasonable so much because it used to be like a trigger for me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It used to be the centrist thing.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		I gotcha.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But, like, no, it just used to be almost my Tourette's saying something is reasonable.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But, like, this to me is, like.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Actionable?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If.
		No.
		If you look at this, the only assessment you can really come away from, and I would welcome anybody to go listen to this whole three-hour episode.
		You're not going to get more context to any of this other than you can listen to Alex interview Doug Hagman for a bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would not recommend anybody listen to this entire thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not super relevant.
		It's just going to be a repetition of a bunch of the same shit we talk about a bunch.
		But if you listen to this, I don't think you can come away from is Alex is gloating like crazy about what he knows is coming.
		He has this information, all this stuff.
		And then he says things like this, which indicate to me that he has had people like, like we say, Roger Stone, Steve Pieczenik, maybe Eric Prince, if the two of them are in contact.
		Alex has since come out and said that Eric Prince was a big source of information for him.
		God damn it.
		But you have these people who are telling him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a fucking guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have these people who are telling him, like, no, this wasn't the Russians.
		And then at the same time, you have this indictment that's come out just in the present that has a lot of very specific information about the specific computers, the specific emails that these GRU agents were using.
		Which matches up perfectly with what he describes that provided the information that Alex is saying, this time it wasn't the Russians.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is what Roger, Steve Pieczenik, and those dudes are telling him behind the scenes.
		So what you have here, I think, is Alex acting as a Patsy.
		And I think that since all of this and since the heat has gotten really hot, the reason that Alex is so boring is like there's two things.
		I think that he realized at some point that this is the game that's being played and I can't play it anymore.
		And so he still supports Trump because of the white nationalist movements that are still being emboldened and he's pushing through the legislation that he would like to be there and things like that.
		But he also recognizes that he did things like this on air in 2016 that are evidence.
		And that's why his show is boring in 2018.
		He knows people are listening.
		Like, he didn't know that people were listening back then.
		I don't mean it like he didn't think anyone was listening.
		He just thought, like, hey, this doesn't matter.
		It's all good.
		And you know what?
		It's not all good.
		It's not all good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That puts a nail in the coffin of ever convincing, or not just ever convincing, ever making Alex confront the fact that he has been lied to and taken advantage of.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it takes away so much of his masculinity and power.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because if he took that episode down, which we can't confirm or if he was specifically not cool with this episode being out, that suggests foreknowledge.
		That is intent.
		Or you're not going to have a foreknowledge.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you're going to create a couple days later, you realize, like, oh, shit, what did I say?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's rid of it.
		But that's what I'm saying.
		That suggests that he found out that he was fucking fucked on this one by them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or later in the day, Roger called him and I was like, you've got to take that down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's also possible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You just drifted outside of what's left.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because it's dangerous and you're going to hurt my sources or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or it could have even been six months later.
		I mean, who knows?
		Like, I have no idea.
		I have no idea whether this never went up or it was taken down.
		I only know that it's an anomaly in terms of the episodes that I try and find from these years, years that this guy has posted everything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is smoke, but not fire.
		Goddammit, if it looks like it's smoke from a fire.
		My point just being, like, if we, to me, there's always been a romantic idea of, like, if we could just get to him and just, like, you're, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
		Look at this.
		Whether or not we agree on policies or anything like that, all we can genuinely prove to you is that the people you've surrounded with are trying to fuck you over.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I think he knows that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He knows that now.
		Right?
		So that means that gets rid of any possibility ever of redemption.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there never was one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There never was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, but I'm saying, like, there aren't many times where you can point to a concrete example of him being actually aware that he was fucked by the people that he supposedly trusts.
		You know what I'm saying?
		Like, so many times we've pointed out that he was fucked by the people he trusts, but this is a confirmation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The fact that this episode is a steal when he came on and talked about Mars bases, and then Alex was like, this guy is probably deep state.
		He was trying to get on my show and say some dumb shit.
		When he's been on the show multiple times before that, it's not like it's an anomaly for him to be on or say something weird.
		It's just the media picked up on the Mars base thing that he said, because he's also a Project Camelot guest.
		And so like delightful.
		But, you know, like, you have that where that's someone who he trusted and realized I can't trust him and then had to disavow them.
		Yeah, but Roger Hamstead.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's about Mars base.
		Like, you can.
		He doesn't really trust anybody about a Mars base thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He wasn't as deeply in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He trusted him about other things, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he wasn't as deeply entrenched as someone like Roger Stone is now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's such a like, he's become woven into the DNA of InfoWars over the last two years or so, like to the point where if he goes down, Alex goes down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Inextricable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's not actually that.
		That's not true.
		There's a way that Alex can dodge.
		Like, if Roger Stone goes to prison, I think Alex can dodge it.
		I think it's possible.
		But again, I've talked about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've talked about this for a fucking year.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, even if these guys go to prison, like, right here, this episode is the closest I have ever come to being like, Alex is going to prison.
unidentified		Yeah, like because this is this is damning.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is an indication that he had advanced knowledge that he didn't admit to.
		Now, he hasn't perjured himself.
		Like, he hasn't gone in for interviews or anything.
		No, So he's still on the right side of the law if he comes clean, which he can do, but it involves selling out Roger.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, new plan.
		No longer are we going to romanticize the idea of ever convincing him that he's fucked over.
		Here's what we do: we email his lawyer.
		Alright?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And his lawyer is like...
unidentified		There's a lot of them, by the way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
		Re- We email them, all right, and we send that email.
		We have these clips, they hear it.
		All we do is get an email back that is just them salivating at the billable hours.
		Yeah, like that's all that's going on right here.
unidentified		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If this information is part of Mueller's probe, this is so many billable hours.
		Like, the lawyers, if they heard this pre, they would go ape shit.
		They'd be like, ah, we're going to be rich.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I really think that this sort of thing, these indications are the sort of thing that you could get Alex to flip.
		Easily.
		He has a business to protect.
		He has tons of kids.
		He doesn't want to go to prison.
		I know that he believes in what he believes in and all that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's worried he'll be attacked by black people in prison.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Certainly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then have his kids taught prison mentality through him when they visit him in prison.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a program that's been in place for at least a year.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex goes to prison, then pretends that he couldn't have done these radio shows because he was off earth at the time and becomes the new Mark Richards for us when we go visit him.
		Ooh.
		The cycle continues like the last season of The Wire.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Every 30 years, a new Alex Jones gets interviewed by Knowledge Fight.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look, it's just, I don't know.
		I don't know how to put any buttons on this.
		And we have more clips, but like, it's just nonsense to me.
		Like, I hear this, and I'm like, the only way out is bad for him.
		Yeah.
		But I still don't think, like, I think at the end of the day, he's a white supremacist fuck, and I hate him.
		Yeah.
		Hate him so much.
		His rhetoric is cancerous, and it's the worst.
		And all these people who are talking about, like, should he be allowed on Facebook?
		Like, I don't think that, I don't think that's a valid conversation to have.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't give a shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that Facebook should choose, and if they don't choose, don't, like, you get off Facebook.
		You know, I don't, I don't know.
		It's not clear to me.
		I hate him.
		I hate him.
		But I don't think that, like, even all this, like, even this damning, this is damning stuff.
		I still think he's stupid.
		Like, I think that he's smart about a lot of the cultural issues he's cancerous about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would say he's not smart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's canny.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I think he's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, he's got a instinct.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I think he knows what he's doing on a social front and the racial stuff.
		Like, when he was yelling about Tim Kaine.
		Yeah.
		I think he knows what he's doing, and he's in charge of stuff there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of being racist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I think with this secret information and all this counter-coup narrative and all this, I think he's the mark.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think you can see it played out on air.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't, I think it would be disingenuous to be like, he's committed treason.
		Because what we're talking about is treason.
		Like, the acts that we're talking about are sedition against America.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you say that, but it's like stealing an election.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that so bad?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if it was Dukes of Hazarding it, you know, like, how are they going to go to this one?
		Stealing an election?
		Oh, boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They stole it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're in a Pat and Oswald bet about Bush and Cheney.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They got a little bit of data and they ran with it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, like, you know, that's shady, but that's not this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But this is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, this is crime.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is crime.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is crime.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you can't hide behind the idea that it was like these wonderful people in the intelligence agencies because it's very clearly forensically been studied and that is not the case.
		So I still don't think he's committed treason.
		When I have heard him in the past talk about people are investigating him, I always take that with a grain of salt.
		I always have heard things from like McClatchy.
		I've read those articles.
		Where it's like they're investigating social media's presence and right-wing media's is this intentional?
		Was there coordination and stuff like that?
		That has always been the point of that investigation.
		And if that was going on a year and a half ago, and Alex is on air talking about advanced knowledge of leaks and hacked documents and stuff like that, then he has to know that, like, I'm in the fucking hopper.
		Yeah.
		So here's my prediction: either Alex needs to flip and change his narrative, which I don't think is ever going to happen, or shit's going to get real dark.
		He might get indicted too.
		I never thought this until I listened to this episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Disagree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that he might get indicted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really don't think anybody is listening to this.
		We talked about this off air.
		I don't think serious people take this seriously.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that if you have.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, part of the reason that we take it seriously is because we are comedians.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are decidedly unserious people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that if you are an investigation and you're focusing on Roger Stone and you realize, oh, Roger Stone has buddied up with this right-wing media network.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You'd probably, one of the easiest forensic things to do is find out what he said on that show on various days.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I do think that this stuff is very well known to investigators.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it has to be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If it's not, then, boy, you guys.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here's why I feel like, and this is not to say that it is more valid.
		Here's why I feel like my assessment of this particular situation regarding what the FBI regards as serious is more valid.
		I listen to way less Alex Jones than you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And generally speaking, of the 99.99% of the population, we all feel like Alex Jones can be disregarded.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it is never a bad idea to suggest that people investigating things can disregard details that would help them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's generally the reality.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it just goes back to that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, when you're looking at one thing, your peripheral vision is blurred.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, like if you focus on one thing, you don't see the very obvious thing on the side.
		Yeah, of course.
		And that's this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the obvious thing, though, is at the same time, InfoWars.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's damning.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, Alex talks about these Soros hacks and these DC leaks and the DNC leaks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he says that they say things that they don't say, but it sounds exactly like all of his narratives.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're a bunch of hacks?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So they're like, have you ever heard about InfoWars plane food?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		White activists and black activists are different.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They sound like.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The DNC emails are out.
		There's tens of thousands of them.
		Within days of them being out, we've already gotten into the emails.
		They're up on Infowars.com, DrudgeReport.com from the Daily Caller, and others have dug them up saying we're going to bring in the migrants and get a bunch of government money to take care of them and then use them as political weapons and make it the new normal and merge the Middle East with Europe and take over the U.S. and use the new immigrant groups as our political voting block to control everything and call everybody racist that don't go along with it.
		I mean, this is a criminal conspiracy and we have the diary.
		It's open and shut.
		It's open and shut.
		Going back to Mr. Hagman in a moment.
		We are running a special on one of our top nutraceuticals.
		God is just.
		Damn it!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck!
		How can you commit a crime and sell shit in the same sentence?
		Basically.
		Solid work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We got a special.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just shot a man in the face, and also we got an Easter special going on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've watched some of these Netflix documentaries about various crimes, and I will admire them for not trying to sell something during them.
unidentified		He committed a crime and tried to sell something in the same fucking sentence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's kind of heroic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		On a certain level, that is heroic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It might be the best ad pivot.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So everyone drinks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That might be in the tops.
		So I'll say there's been a lot of uncertainty about a lot of things for a long time.
		There's been some impressions of certainty.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		After the clips you've played, there is some less uncertainty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then also with this, I'll admit that an indictment isn't 100% proof of fact.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it is a claim based on evidence that has been collected.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And based on everything that our information and our criminal justice system or investigative bodies have put out, it is very clear that DC Leaks and Gusifer 2.0 were entities for Russian hackers to use to disseminate information that they stole from the DNC and from Soros and from John Podesta later than now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why this can absolutely be confirmed as true is because for all of Mueller's indictments, these are the people who are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They want us to say Mueller.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've been criticizing Mueller.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've gotten some blowback on that.
unidentified		You know what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I never know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Mueller sounds better.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like there was a Cubs player named Bill Mueller for a while, but I didn't know if it was ever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know Dick, but someone has yelled at me about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Agreed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine with that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Mueller.
		Here's why this one I feel like can absolutely be confirmed as true, regardless: is that this is the first indictment I feel like that Mueller's brought that will mean nothing.
		Because none of the 12 people that he has indicted will ever be extradited to the United States.
		What are you talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Companies.
		A couple six, eight months ago or so, he indicted some companies.
		Remember that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which ones?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Some Russian companies that were involved.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, no, you're right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's the same thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just like, guys, we're presenting incontrovertible evidence simply because nothing can be done about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, those people are not going to be extradited.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, of course not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What kind of world would Trump, who fucking loves Putin, ever be like?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As we're recording this, probably is talking to him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
		Well, talking is a hard word to use.
		I would say giving him a handy.
		What world would he be like?
unidentified		Okay, well, we got to do this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Mueller, come up with some good shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, hey, Putin, give me 12 guys from your military so I can prosecute them in the United States.
unidentified		Suck it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that never would happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I agree with the bottom line of what you're saying, and that is that I think this is absolutely accurate.
		Yeah.
		These were the people who were involved in the DC hacks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		DC leaks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's undoubted.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Goosefer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It cannot be disputed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It makes it that much more embarrassing that Alex says this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		Everybody has to move at once.
		Then they can't get us all.
unidentified		Yes, we need to come out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We need to come out with this information.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ashwave information warfare attacks.
unidentified		Roger that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, hey, I want to salute the folks that hacked the Democrats.
		They're criminals.
		I want to salute the folks that hacked Soros.
		I mean, and listen, this is only the beginning.
		This is only the beginning.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oof.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Salute.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Salute to you hackers.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Boy.
		He wouldn't say this stuff if he knew.
		Like, this is a guy who's being tricked.
		You know what I'm saying?
		Yeah, yeah.
		I don't.
		Well, there is a version that he would, like, there is a person who would say that if he knew.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't think that fits Alex Jones' profile.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he is completely hook line and sinker on this stupid narrative at August 16th, 2016.
		Who knows what he knows later?
		But at this point, he's being fucking lied to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Undoubtedly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he is thrilled about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's why he's so outward with things that are damning and evidence.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so here's how we get Alex.
		All right.
		Both of us moved to Texas.
		We spent off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I loved it down in Austin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was great down in Austin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's been nice to be closer to my parents.
		I love the city.
		There's so much there.
		There's that great hot sauce shop.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is not a good hot sauce shop in Chicago.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Incredible.
		So what we do spend two to four years in law school, pass our LSATs, pass the bar, go to town, right?
		We spend four years as public defenders, then we parlay that into a private practice.
		Eventually, we run on the campaign of homes.
		Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
		We've got the whole thing, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have two pretend relatives of yours as partners to get more names on the sign.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Then, 15 years from now, we run for Attorney General.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Finally, we have the authority to take the information that we have gathered over this past two years and defeat Alex Jones once again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And by that point, Statute of Limitations has come up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but we don't need to worry about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if there's a statute of limitations on treason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
unidentified		Is there a statute of limitations?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, well, he committed treason about 10 years ago, but there's nothing we can do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Accessory to treason.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I don't think, I know, I know how bad a propagandist he is, but I still think that there are people who are, from my view.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And admittedly, I don't know everything.
		I only have the information that I have.
		I think that there are people who are actively involved in this and people who are passively involved.
		Alex is passively involved in the treason aspect of it.
		He's actively involved in the propaganda part of it.
		I think that propaganda is not a crime, but should be.
		I don't think you would necessarily have a crime to hang him on for that.
		Yeah.
		I think that in terms of his involvement in all this, I think that he's probably a guy who, you know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is both why he is used for this specific purpose.
		Like, people tell him way too much.
		Or at least for way too much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Strategically way too much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		They tell him way too much for two guys who spend all of our time talking about Alex Jones.
		Yeah, yeah.
		But in reality, they tell him way more than is necessary in order to get out in front of the narrative and make it seem crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I also think that it's possible that the Steves and the Rogers who were manipulating him, because it's very clear that that's a huge part of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I also think that.
		He's an idiot.
		From everything I can tell, and I might be, like I say, I might be wrong about everything, but everything I can tell, you have Steven Roger coordinatingly manipulating him on this side, and then you have Larry Nichols manipulating him, but I don't think it's all involved.
		Like, I don't think the three of them are involved.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think Larry Nichols is another side thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Larry Nichols is not part of the cabal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's being pulled in a similar direction by Larry, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's being manipulated in a similar anti-Hillary way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but Larry is more fun about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would never.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't think Larry Nichols is committing treason.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he's just a crazy old dude.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's just a lunatic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's just a crazy old liar.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I lost my train of thought entirely, but I think that when you have a situation like this, it's the burden of proof of someone actually doing something that we're talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because we're talking about treason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are talking about treason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He should be hung by the neck until dead, I believe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The burden of evidence is pretty high.
		And when I look at Alex and I look at stuff like this, what's crazy to me, legitimately, is that looking at this episode, the day after Roger Stone 100% was in touch with Russian intelligence, you have Alex saying fucking damning stuff that he knows things and he's been told stuff.
		I still think he's on the outside.
		I still think that there's an innocence there, which is hard for me to wrestle with as someone who studies him and hates him and thinks he should be held accountable for so many things.
		I don't know how to deal with this.
		This to me was such a hard thing to wrestle with that I have found something.
		Alex, you are bragging on air of advance notice of leaks that are going to come out, which is a huge part of what you deny is part of your information base in the present.
		I still think the only reason he's lying about it now is because he's realized he was lied to back then.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		At the very least, he is finally aware that he is an accessory.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		He's an accessory to treason, which kind of still is treason.
		Or maybe even not kind of.
		It is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the cover-up is crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the cover-up is what we see going on right now with all the modern-day Alex stuff.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is why it's so boring.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think so too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So boring.
		Because it's just.
		And that's why I wish he would just go back to being weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I kind of think if he bailed on Trump, the Fox News people would follow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think he'd be the bellwether.
		Yeah.
		I think that if he.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think if he got, yeah, if he got mass approval from being like, holy shit, Trump lied to us the whole time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, if he was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump is a fucking if he somehow was like proof of concept that like, oh, this can work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Then they would jump on board.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's entirely possible.
		He certainly led them down this road.
		I don't know.
		I don't know.
		What I come away from more and more is that I don't know.
		I don't know, but I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know people have committed treason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not an arguable fact at this point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The added information that I get from listening to this episode and talking about it is not like it doesn't invalidate anything that I thought before.
		It adds to it a little bit in terms of figuring out the picture of stuff, but it doesn't invalidate anything.
		It doesn't, you know, like our previous concept of what happened is very intact, just with more like, it's just evidence that Alex has information that he's not saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that part is like something's going to have to happen with that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, the question is, if you're Mueller, whether or not you are aware that you are going to be attacked by a foreign power and report it or not is a question of like, can you actually prosecute for somebody?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, like Roger Stone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's every DA's joggling.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you're Roger Stone, you're aware that, as we know now, Russia committed an act of war, whichever you would like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, one of the realities we have to admit is that the only way that we could possibly know this is if we hacked into their systems in the same way that they did to ours.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, like, it's not possible to know that in any other way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So if you want to say, you know, they committed an act of war against us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you're now.
		It's a lot aboutism here.
		And I don't actually think that it's the same thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying it in a moral, like we should do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying it in more.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think us knowing about this is the same as what the defense awareness, the knowledge, I don't think it requires the same thing as the spear phishing and hacking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because some of that can just be done by monitoring suspicious people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Agreed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it has been rightly pointed out that we absolutely helped install Boris Yeltsin.
unidentified		So it's not the fucking 90s.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know, but that's not.
		They didn't declare war on us then.
		Like, it's not.
		I don't want to be.
		I'm not saying that I want to be.
		I'm not saying I'm on the side of anybody.
		I'm just saying that this is something that we should be aware of before people start saying that this is an act of war and we should burn everything down.
		You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it's an act of war.
		I think it's an act of desperate desperation?
		It's espionage, certainly.
		And that's the, I mean, the end result of it is, of course, don't fucking go to war with Russia.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's stupid.
		That idea, I understand what you're saying, the quid pro quo stuff of like, we fuck with you, so this is okay.
		I don't agree with that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying it's okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think anybody's okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We should also stop doing that stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's a different conversation.
		But in terms of like, how do we respond to this?
		I think the only thing that you can do is go back to demonize the EU and the Jews.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We already talked about this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The idea that Mueller is putting out these indictments that are impossible to ever enact because they're not going to be extradited here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have to get the evidence out that this is what happened so as much truth as possible.
		And Ken Burns can make a documentary 15 years from now.
		Get all of that out there and then prosecute as many bad actors here as you can and hope to mitigate the damage and then educate.
		You hope to be able to get people to understand this is the process that happened as the investigative patterns and the ways that information was known can be revealed, that sort of thing.
		You start to understand these are the things you should look out for online.
		These are the things you should be careful about what you trust because it's very easy to manipulate your opinions using algorithms and shit like that because that is a huge part of the story that's not criminal.
		Then you take the criminal piece of it and you hopefully put so many of these actors in prison.
		Trump is probably going to get spared, but You get people like Roger Stone to go to prison.
		You get Manafort in prison.
		Hopefully, some of these other people, I mean, Flynn should go to prison.
		Some of these other folks, maybe they flip and become state's evidence, state's property.
		Maybe they make some deals for themselves, and we try and wash this national nightmare out of our hair and then move on in 2020.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I hope that that is what we can do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, I don't think it's possible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, as we as we all know, as we all know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what needs to happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even if the Democrats run the fucking table and win every election, they're still giant pussies, so they're never going to actually impeach Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But no, he doesn't need to be impeached.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I understand that we all want him impeached, but he doesn't need to be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He needs to be stopped.
		Yeah.
		Perhaps more importantly, the Republican Party needs to be stopped, which would be better served in our interests if Trump was just neutralized with an entirely Democratic Congress.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, we want to keep him as president.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We just want to make sure that all of the dumb shit that he says, which is probably based on at the very least, a diminished intellectual capacity.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it might be much better optics if he stays as president, unable to enact any level of an incompetent who yells all the time in office.
		Maybe that's a better thing for the Democrats than impeachment, even.
		There are ways around this, but I honestly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like if Andrew Jackson was never allowed to implement any of the things that he said.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, he's allowed to say all that bullshit, but none of it actually happened.
		Like, that's the better circumstance.
		Because ultimately, we kind of want Trump as the president in order to make sure that we continue winning elections.
		I don't think he is a dumb fucking fucking idiot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not why.
		I think that that's ugly.
		I think that's an ugly, self-serving, opportunistic idea.
		I think that the only good thing about having him president is that there's maybe a teaching opportunity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, you know, like, as long as he stays in office and is floundering and so combative and like a child, like, there is an opportunity for people watching it to learn, like, oh, this is that kind of behavior.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can learn, like, oh, we don't like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because here's what I would say.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of European countries are older than us in terms of their existence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I reject that premise.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm just fucking with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
		A lot of stupid.
		And a lot of them don't necessarily have the same boundaries because of various world wars and various kingdoms and stuff like that.
		But a lot of them have identities that go much further back than 1776.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we're a bit childish.
		And I think that on some level, our country maybe is going through growing pains right now.
		And there's one opportunity in front of us that is we lean into the combative childishness of Trump that he's giving us the opportunity for.
		And that's a nightmare.
		That's a disaster.
		And then I hope everyone invades us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or the other opportunity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are due for a regime change.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or the other opportunity is we have one of these Kierkegaardian crises that come with your development in life.
		And we realize, like, oh, shit.
		Shit.
		Eh, that was a mistake.
		And everything comes into sharp focus that, like, oh, that was petulantly acting out, and that was childish.
		We need to take everything much more seriously.
		We were before, and it felt bad, but we need to just we need to get back on the straight and narrow path.
		Right, and maybe we can move forward from that.
		Maybe that's idealistic, but I think that that's a possibility.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, it's interesting because it's not like America hasn't survived a white supremacist, senile president before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it's like we've got a lot under our belt.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not the same as now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's the thing.
		The world hasn't necessarily survived a white nationalist, white supremacist, senile president from America that controls this movement.
		Exactly.
		Yeah, yeah.
		The world, like, it's unfortunate, but currently, the interesting thing is watching the world kind of realize we can't trust America.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not even just America.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The order.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The international order that we created after World War II.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That, admittedly, a lot of problems with it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, yeah, and at the same time, this has occurred before.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		After World War I.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, no, no, no.
		I mean, after World War II, like in the 70s and in the 90s, the EU has had a lot of situations where they're on the cusp of breaking apart.
		Like, this is a regular thing.
		Like, Europe is fucking nuts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but they're not the same as when daddy is drunk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's a great way of putting it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not the same as when, like, and that's even maybe pejorative to our international partners and allies, but, like, no, I kind of think we're good.
		We've created a situation in terms of the international order where the United States has so much power.
		Yeah.
		So much superpower in terms of not control, but in terms of like this, we're going to be on the right side of things.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just a general hegemony.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hegemony.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And when we indicate we're not going to do that anymore, it's terrifying.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And not because the world can't do it without us.
		They can.
		But if we become bad actors, the world's fucked.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, it's kind of built around the concept that has been in place probably for the last 40 years of like America's military is such that as far out as anybody wants to go, as far out as any war or invasion wants to go, if you go too far, America does have all the guns.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So many.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like our guns are.
		Oh, Russia is building up their military.
		Oh, China is building up their military.
		They want to increase it by tenfold.
		That still puts them at one thousandth fold of the dumb bullshit that America has.
		So for so long, even the people who want to act as invaders or who want to annex territory know that there's a point where it's not a world war, it's America blowing your ass fucking up.
		You know?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, and I think the third world understands that.
		Yeah.
		And I think that refugees fleeing a lot of those places understand that.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, well, I mean, they understand it all too much now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is another piece of the puzzle in terms of this anti-immigration, anti-refugee worldview.
		I don't know.
		I think we're spinning way too far into the world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're going wild in speculation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I love this sort of conversation.
		I think that I think what we're butting our heads up against is that both of us are fucking fatalistic and we think we're doomed.
		But at the same time, I have a tiny bit of, eh, there's a chance.
		And then at the same time, we do a show about Alex Jones, and I'm sitting here with dead evidence, dead to rights, that he knew shit that he claims he doesn't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'm still saying that, like, you know what?
		I think he's still being tricked.
		You know, like, so I'm not.
		Maybe I'm a dreamy-eyed optimist, but.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		My fatalism isn't born out of America not surviving Trump or the white nationalists.
		Like, we've about climate change.
		Like, while we're doing this shit, we're fucking up the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, which is why.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which only creates more refugees, which only creates more nationalist separatism movements, which only creates more people who are willing to fucking let the world die.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is why, in the memo that came from the open societies from Soros that got hacked, they were talking about this refugee influx being the new normal.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And of course it's going to be the new normal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not because of some sort of like desire for, hey, let's fuck up white people with bread and brown people.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just because you look at the realities of the world, and if trends keep going the way they are, there's going to be huge squashes of land that are going to be uninhabitable.
		And people are going to have to be displaced.
		And you better fucking let them in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Think about, I mean, just think about how people have reacted to Puerto Rican refugees.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Think about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're like, oh, are you a citizen?
		Yes.
		I live in America.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Think about how our government has dealt with the deaths in Puerto Rico.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's like 10,000.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're like, what are you like?
		10,000, 10 million.
		Eh, don't worry about it.
		You're not mainland.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's what you were saying earlier when I said I lived in Hawaii.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, but that was a joke.
		It was satire.
		It was satire.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I want to leave you with a fun clip.
		Yay!
		Because this episode has been, I would say, largely evidence that Alex Jones is a party to treason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's been revelatory more than it has been.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, when I started listening to this, I didn't expect to hear the things that I heard.
		But I didn't also expect to hear this.
		Now, I have always been a critic of Alex Jones' childhood literacy.
		And listen to this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I was like seven years old and I was reading the Star Wars trilogy and one paperback that my dad had got episode four, five, and six.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So I was reading adults.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think I actually read that same paperback.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He loves science fiction.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think you're talking about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think I actually read that same paperback.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's fine, but hold on.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Stuff when I was seven, eight years old, really good reader.
		Wasn't good at spelling your math, but I've been a good reader.
		I mean, I was reading like an eighth-grade level when I was about five.
		And I suddenly started reading history books, and they were just so entertaining.
		And I remember being about 10 years old, my mom's going, you're reading Nietzsche?
		Do you understand that?
		And I'm like, not really, but I'm into this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But did you understand that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not really, but I'm into this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what he was doing when he was a kid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was just looking at books.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, I would say that Nietzsche is not history necessarily.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, I mean, the parts of history that he's involved with don't go well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of philosophy in there, certainly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of ideas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And if you're somebody who's into that, I'm not into you.
		Also, if you- I could let that go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, if you're a kid and you're like, I don't understand this, but I'm into it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, I'm eight years old, and I'm reading Nietzsche.
		Now, obviously, that makes me both an interesting person and I think I should be murdered.
		Like, that's what you say to me if you're an eight-year-old who.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This just furthers my argument that I've been making this entire goddamn time that Alex was reading books that he didn't understand and is now claiming he understood them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He just said he didn't fucking understand them at 10.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if he understood the Star Wars trilogy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably not.
		Yeah.
		I'll be honest.
		I mean, he plays the Imperial March all the time on his show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also, I'll say that when I was like eight, nine years old, I read a bunch of Tintin that my dad had, and I didn't understand how fucking racist that shit was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ridiculous.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I grew up and I'm like, I liked the stories, but holy shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Holy shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is some of the most racist shit I've ever seen in my life.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How is this in the house?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand how everybody who watched Song of the South as a child isn't like wandering around going like, what the fuck was the world like?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
		I watched that when I was a child.
		I'd forgotten about it.
		And then in college, I watched it with a young lady.
		And I was like, oh, dear God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, dear God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		This is almost as racist as a fucking chitty chitty bang bang.
		Like, it's crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, the child catcher.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The child catcher?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		From Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, that's right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, what we come away with, I think, is no concrete.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		I don't know how to summate this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's the problem that we run into is the limits of our, well, when I say our, I mean your investigative abilities.
		Insofar as we have, I think, the most circumstantial evidence that you could ever need to convict somebody of committing treason.
		But we don't have that, like, eyewitness.
		Like, we don't have that DNA print.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he's his own eyewitness.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but we couldn't actually get him to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I suppose if he testified, he'd just admit that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We could do cross and just be like, hey, why did you say this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, again, so we move to Austin.
		Become lawyers.
		Become lawyers.
		Pass the bar.
		Spend four years as public defenders.
		That shows that we care about the.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or his ex-wife is now trying to sue him in unplug info wars, which I think is a stupid idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if we get called as material witnesses.
		But you know what?
		Even if you're a witness, you can't make Alex answer something.
		You can just bring things up.
		This isn't going to work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've got to do more planning on this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Look, here's the fucking deal.
		Alex knew stuff.
		Alex 100% knows way more.
		You look at the fucking date.
		You look at the timeline.
		You look at all this.
		It's just, it's dead to rights.
		It's nonsense.
		I love this because this, to me, and I know I said this earlier, but this is the reason why his show sucks now.
		He knows people are listening.
		And he knows he committed crimes.
		So he just can't do the same things.
		So what he does is he fills time with just screaming about dumb shit, saying the same things he did back before that are less interesting.
		You could go into the fucking Chimera stuff much deeper now, and that'd be fun.
		But then he has people like Mike Rotondo on and pretends that, like, oh, this is fun.
		You know, we're going to save you or whatever.
		Or scream about Muslims.
		You know, like, he does that stuff because that's what is okay.
		What's not okay is recognizing that, dude, you are in the barrel.
		You don't know it.
		You do know it.
		But you might not be aware of it, Alex.
		Your time is coming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what, I feel like this is, I feel like you're wrong based on like the Megyn Kelly interview situation where Alex knew that he said some shit where he should have been dead to rights.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then whenever it actually came out, there was fucking nothing on it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, because it's the same thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because he understood how Megan Kelly's show works.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're not going to play the clip where he says this was all fake.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They were just going to try and make him feel bad by playing the family members and stuff.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he has a steely upper lip about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't give a shit about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's a psychopath.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		He doesn't give a shit about that.
		He's just going to say, like, I want to apologize to them for what the media has said about me.
		I want to make it right.
		I want, look, everyone lies about me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He knows that Megan Kelly's show isn't going to dip into, like, okay, well, here's what you did say.
unidentified		Comment now beyond that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because here's what happens when you do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex will storm out, and he won't sign the release.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He didn't sign the release beforehand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not a fucking idiot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The way that he was acting about, the way that he was afraid, kind of, that seemed genuine to me.
		It suggests to me that he signed it beforehand.
		No.
		Like, he wouldn't have been afraid if he knew.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If he had final cut, Alex does not have any fear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He didn't have final cut, but he didn't have any like the reason he was afraid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or rights of approval or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The reason that he's not afraid is because he's not a journalist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's an entertainer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He pretends that he understands how these shows are made and stuff like that, but he doesn't really understand it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he knows that for hours that he probably was on a hot mic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He probably said some stupid shit that could be used against him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he said the N-word 45 times.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that's Ted Nugent.
		But he knows that he probably off-camera had like he's seen the jinx and is like, well, I probably said something that really was fucked up and they could use that against me.
		Something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		While he's peeing, he was like, oh, I committed treason.
		How did they guess?
		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what he's afraid of on some level, not realizing that this is a fucking sacchariny, sweet Sunday night show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That all they want to do is make him look bad about Sandy Hook.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But not too bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They want to make him look like he was wrong, and that is something that is indicative of a larger issue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If he's storming.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's going to ruin their fucking show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would ruin the entire proceeding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the whole show was about him squirming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was not about him being caught.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As was the pre-show that he did.
		It was about him squirming.
		It works for both of them.
		Anyway, I don't know.
		Let's end this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're all in cahoots.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In some way, yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not like they're in concert with each other, like quid pro quo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They all have similar goals.
		They all kind of know what it is they're going for.
		They're all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even Megan Kelly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, have you seen her daytime talk show?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did you see her interview Putin?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it was brutal.
		It was brutal.
		I don't know how it is we're supposed to combat this in a way that doesn't involve actually putting propagandists in jail.
		Like prop if propagandists never experiences any consequences for their actions, then it's never going to stop.
		Because propaganda is only going to get more sophisticated.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it has.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's become information warfare or info wars.
		But I still think most of it falls under the heading of free speech.
		It's everyone's responsibility.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's everyone's responsibility to be smart and like because it's not a crime to lie, except in the situations where you're lying about a building burning down or something like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, dude, look, propaganda should be illegal, but then you're going to open up the can of worms of like, what is propaganda definition?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's ultimately a slippery slope argument.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
		It's a logistics argument.
		It's what, like, where, where, at what point do you draw the line?
		That's not the same as a slippery slope.
		The slippery slope would be like, I say this is illegal, now this is, now this is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's the argument against what you're saying is that if we are going to start making laws about propaganda, then it matters who is in control of how those laws are prosecuted.
		Like with Trump and illegal immigration.
		Well, you know, all of these fucking people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it makes the conversation we had with the Patriot Act.
		This is being put into power.
		Who knows who's going to be president next?
		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And Obama, again, deported more than GW did.
		You know, it's like, regardless of who's in power, it does matter about how they exercise that power of prosecution.
		I shall grieve.
		So I don't know.
		It's a slippery slope argument in the way that who the fuck knows if an autocrat is going to become president.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not a slippery slope argument.
		That is a concern.
		There is a difference between fair enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I accept that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that's a voicing of a concern of what could be possible in the future.
		That's different than a slippery slope.
		That's like I do this and then before you know it, X.
		Well, but at the same time, the idea of if we make this legal, that means that in the future the other person can do this because it's legal.
		That's not a slippery slope.
		That's just recognizing the future exists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's also the creation of ICE and the way that we all assumed that Obama was fine.
		Right.
		And Obama was against it from the jump, and then he fucking allowed it to go hog wild.
		And then Trump gets in power, and all of a sudden, that hog wild that Obama allowed, we didn't even know could get worse.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's, I mean, that's bullshit to some extent, because I think that even as like just as a person who is out and about living my life, I knew that ICE was doing some really fucked up stuff even before the election.
		Yeah.
		Even in the there were I would go to open mics and I would hear from people that like there were just like traps set up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That they were just trying to get any immigrants, legal or illegal, jailed up to separate it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that stuff was going on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I quit doing stand-up two years ago.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So like they were doing that well in the past.
		Anyway, who gives a shit?
		Not who gives a shit about that, but like we got to end this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, and all I'm saying is that in Chicago, the bunch of murders recently, too.
		U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is at 101 West Congress Parkway, Chicago, Illinois.
		If you feel like protesting them, feel free to show up at any time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, let's be fucking clear about this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the last week and a half or so, there's been some murders by the police here in Chicago.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there always are, but these ones are worse.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Chicago Police Department is a white supremacist organization that is willing to murder.
		We have black sites where people are tortured.
		What's that hole?
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		No, the Chicago Police Department is something that should be fucking abolished and replaced with, I don't know, community policing or something like that.
		But, yeah, we're overwhelmed by a white supremacist terrorist organization.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Good times.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan, we need to get out of here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Our website is knowledgefight.com.
unidentified		It is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you wanted to follow us on Twitter at KnowledgeJones, we're on Facebook.
		Absolutely.
		You can go to iTunes.
		You could download an episode.
		You could share an episode.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Please.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You could leave a restaurant.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Especially.
		I would say, if you've made it this far, please share this episode because I think that the evidence we've uncovered here, I think a lot of people need to hear.
		Maybe not some of our ramblings, but the stuff where Alex is very clearly, he has knowledge in advance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, this is probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's damning.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not incontrovertible, but goddamn close to proof that Alex Jones was aware of treason.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he needs to be asked way more very specific questions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now we've come to the end of this, and it is your turn, dickweed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, why do I have to be called a dickweed?
unidentified		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just don't want to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't like doing it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you something right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm thrilled to make you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The thing that bothers me the most is that, or at least you fucking say Neil Sean again.
		At least for today.
		All right.
		Is that the U.S. Ambassador to England absolutely lobbied the government to try and get Tommy fucking Robinson released from prison?
		So if I have anybody who should go fuck themselves, I would say 70% of the State Department, go fuck yourself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We can't end on that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That didn't come up in the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Tommy Robinson did come up in the show, but the 70% of the State Fucking Department didn't.
		You have to choose someone else.
		I understand, and I agree with you.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		But the whole bit of the people who came up in the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But this has been a show entirely about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Tons of other people have come up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, obviously the most important person.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The fancy boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That needs to go fuck himself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The styler and profiler in chief.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That will almost certainly wind up getting fucked by himself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go fuck yourself, Roger Stone.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified		I'm a huge fan.
unidentified		I love your work.

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