Knowledge Fight - #178: Rowdy Roddy Piper w/ Marty DeRosa

July 9, 2018 - Knowledge Fight

02:40:33

#178: Rowdy Roddy Piper w/ Marty DeRosa

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Marty DeRosa joins Knowledge Fight to dissect Rowdy Roddy Piper’s bizarre Alex Jones interview, where Piper peddled debunked conspiracy theories like the "Brunswick Affair" and Denver Airport murals as Illuminati clues. They mock Piper’s uncritical embrace of Jones’ fringe claims—including aliens in They Live—while critiquing wrestling’s racial tropes and Jones’ manipulative editing. DeRosa’s wrestling insights contrast sharply with Piper’s erratic, often contradictory takes, exposing how showmanship trumps credibility in both industries. [Automatically generated summary]
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dan friesen

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marty derosa

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rowdy roddy piper

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Speaker	Time	Text
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a First Time Color.
		I'm a huge fan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
		Today, Jordan had a nice weekend out of the Chicago Improv doing some stand-up comedy.
		So his schedule was too compact in order to get into the studio and record an episode where we would talk a bunch about Alex Jones and drinking LLD beverages.
		And in his absence, I'm thrilled to welcome back into the studio someone who I know a few things about.
		One of them, he loves wrestling.
		That's about it.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Ladies and gentlemen, what else do you know about me?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're from Indiana.
		Yeah.
		You had an obsession with tree houses as a child.
unidentified		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Didn't you always want to break into people's tree houses or climb up other people's trees?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I was an adult.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, fair enough.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I love us as an adult.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		What else do I know about former fleshlight owner?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Backyard wrestler.
		That goes back into the loving wrestling thing.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And former one-time professional wrestler.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hurricane Rana Achiever.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Hurricane Rana Achiever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty huge.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've seen three angles of that video now.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Each one better than the last.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Still gets better.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You were unvictorious along with Cold Cabana and Pancakes and Pile Drivers.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		What they say in the wrestling business, Dan, is you go in this business on your back and you leave on your back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, you had to put the guys over.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You got to put they're going to be here.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm gone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Those kids.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to put those kids over.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's big of you.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I respect that a whole bunch.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm on Alex Jones Beard Watch.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
		Oh.
		We joked right before we started recording that we might talk about his beard this entire time.
		He, when he first started, the victory beard, as he called it.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		He had one of those beards.
		Sometimes, like, if I have a little, like, if I have to shave or whatever and I have like a five-day growth or something, I'm like, oh, this looks cool.
		He has that face that it looks like if you did an old-timey, like, hobo.
		Like, all he needs is like a little cigar.
unidentified		Sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You know, and like an abindle with the bandana with all his goods wrapped in it.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Like, he just looks like a train wreck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It looks like a disaster.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think someone on our Facebook group, which is called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant, someone on there made a good comment that this is probably his way of trying to transition into being a bald guy with a goatee.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Hey.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like a cool bald goatee man.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		We've all been there.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		At least I have.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think I probably actually did do that in high school.
unidentified		Did you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I used to shave my head in high school.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like I did.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You got a good head for a buzz cut.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, you do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You should see the back.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Because you know, you got the peak.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have the widow's peak.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Good, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have a widow's peak up front, but then I have the fat rolls on the back of the head.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So my head just looks like a horizontal butt.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There's some stuff in the back of my head that I'm like, you know what?
		It don't matter.
		We're just going to have to go with it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bam-bam-bigalo wrinkles.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Not really.
		Just a little weird bump.
		I got a little bump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just a single bump.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Just a single bump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Was that from taking a bump?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, it's like a ball.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's like a bone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, I don't have those Joe Rogan hair transplant scars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I saw him the other day, and he was like, Alex, I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I saw that on the air.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
		You're my best friend.
		Like, you love Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On the Joey Diaz episode.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was pathetic.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Although it was very weird where it was like, I don't know what they were talking about before that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		If you could bring up the clip even, I don't want to put it on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I'm done going to talk about it.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if they were talking about a movie or something.
unidentified		He's like, yeah, then they kidnapped her and then everyone fucked up.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, let's talk about Alex Jones.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, what were you talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Might just be talking about QAnon stuff.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, maybe.
		But anyway, anybody who's like, Alex, you're my friend.
		I love you.
		You love Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, he loves him in the same way that I probably love a comic.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Like I love Joe Fernandez.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		No, like, I can't think of a specific example.
		And if I could, it would be shitty to name them.
		But, like, I've probably met comedians at festivals that I haven't seen in years.
		But I think of them and I'm like, I love that person.
		We had such a good time at X, Y, or Z.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They have a show where they're racist and xenophobia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're too busy to watch that show, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're doing eight podcasts a week yourself.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
		I guess they seem cool to me.
		That's my favorite.
		I say comedy term, but it's probably in every branch of life.
unidentified		I don't know.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They've always been cool to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You like Alex Jones?
		He's a monster.
		I don't know.
		He's always been cool to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a coward's way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's how we end up in the situation.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I hate that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's so bad.
		So bad.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Unless that person has been cool to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Other people's experiences are secondhand.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There's some degrassi kid who was like, I don't know.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Drake was cool to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Rick was cool.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Rick was cool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Rick was cool to somebody.
		He's friends with Toby.
		Anyway, Toby sucks.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Fuck Toby, always.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Marty, it's a thrill to have you back in the studio.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm going in blind.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what we're doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No one knows.
		It's actually, you know, I found something that is almost not to be believed, quite frankly.
		And we'll get into it here in a few.
		But I was actually, I was thinking a little bit.
		I wanted to talk to you because I have been thinking about the art of healing.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not like medicine.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure, sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But like stones or anything like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not like Ray Key.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But like the nature of the heel in wrestling.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And how it's the harder story to tell, probably, than the face.
		There's a face.
		Here's my theory.
		You can correct me if I'm not sure.
		So much of what a face does relies on sort of natural charisma, amplifying natural charisma to get people to like you, to get them, like the crowd to want to see this person defeat the heel.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The heel has to sort of hit buttons, fairly specific buttons that they wouldn't probably want to make people feel.
		Okay.
		Like back in the day, there would be people who played racist angles in order to like, and they may not be racist themselves, but they're doing that to try and trigger the audience to hate them.
		And then also the other aspect of it, they're playing against themselves to a certain extent.
		And then also, I think it's a more compelling narrative thing because it allows for redemption narratives.
		Whereas with the hero, it can only be like, well, I don't like them as much as I used to.
		Whereas coming out of the hole of being someone who the audience hates, coming up to like, now we like you.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's just, I think it's much more interesting and much more difficult.
		I don't know.
		So what are your thoughts?
		I've never seen you take notes on this podcast before.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		In this day and age.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		In this day and age, it's very hard to have defined roles as heels, the bad guys, babyfaces, the good guys.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Especially in WWE.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Female, good females, bad females, whatever.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So back in the day, it was Hulk Hogan was the good guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And Sergeant Slaughter was the bad guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or the sheet.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Or the chic.
		So that was well defined.
		But somewhere along the lines of when we started getting into the late 90s, the attitude eras, they call it, you had what was kind of called the cool heel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like DX.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but now this happened back in the day because like the Four Horsemen.
		So if you'd watch old NWA, old school world championship wrestling, there would be guys wearing suits in the front row and they would all be throwing up the four horseman symbol.
		Dusty Rhodes started getting booed a lot.
		Hogan would get booed sometimes.
		So there was this thing where it was like, okay, okay.
		One of the things that led to it was the good guy had to be kind of naive sometimes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, dopey a little.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Like Sting would always be like, yeah, yeah, I'll be your partner, sure.
		And then they would turn on him.
		It's like, Sting, you're a dummy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So if you watch for any extended period of time, you kind of get like, why am I cheering for this guy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's dumb.
unidentified		It's like an idiot.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You're going to team up with the guy.
		That's a big problem in wrestling, is continuity.
		And obviously, it's like, yeah, they don't give a shit.
		But with the cool heel, and then it's like the NWO, and then it's like, oh, shit.
		More people are wearing the bad guy's shirts.
		And they would come out and go, you here to see WCW?
unidentified		Like, oh, this Hillbilly company, or the NWO.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And everybody would go crazy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Also, the big thing about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let me just real quick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that that's a function of changing dynamics or just not having good faces for them to go?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, I think it was just kind of the changing dynamics because it was like the Sopranos were popular.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was asking as a sincere question because I have no idea.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Because you get a lot of the anti-heroes.
		And that was the big thing.
		All the bad.
		You know what I mean?
		It's like, look at any genre.
		It's like people like Deadpool.
		They don't like Superman that much anymore.
		They're like, hey, he's a weenie.
		Deadpool's cool.
		He calls people, you know, dickheads and stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Deadpool would punch a Nazi.
unidentified		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And then, and then, I mean, like, Captain America.
		Yeah, I don't know.
		But, like, and then there's guys who, and then now fans are a little more smart.
		That's what we say in wrestling.
		They're more smart.
		So we know when it's like, oh, you're pushing Roman Reigns as a prime example.
		If you don't know Roman Reigns, Vince McMahon always has like number one.
		This is my number one face of the company guy.
		It was Hulk Hogan.
		Then it was Elton Warrior.
		Stone Cold The Rock.
		This is the guy who's like, when you think of my company, this is the guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who I want on Good Morning America.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Absolutely.
		And for a ton of different reasons, it's been like the perfect storm of bad reasons or bad happenstance for this guy.
		It's kind of like Murphy's Law with this guy.
		It's like anytime, here we go, fans are like, yeah, but this, so we don't like him even more now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Roman Reigns wearing that guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Damn vest.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Won't stop wearing the vest.
		Kept the music of the shield.
		The Daniel Bryan thing.
		There's just so many things that I was just like, everyone's like, ah, fuck Roman Reigns.
		I think he's a great.
		I think he's a great wrestler.
		But they're just like, nope, he's the guy.
		And the fans don't want to be told.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do like how he cocks his arm.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Whenever I watch at home, I love that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Whenever I watch at home, I always go, like he's cocking it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've actually told you some really some opinions that you have been violently opposed to that I have turned out to be correct on.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Which is?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of them was that I really liked John Cena back when everyone was hating him.
		And you were like, you shouldn't like him.
		The other one was Elias when he first showed up.
		I was like, this is awesome.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You call Elias, Dan.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There's some guys who just are made for the main roster, and Elias is one of them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There was a third one, too, and I can't remember what it was, but there's a third one that you were like, nope, this guy sucks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You shut your mouth.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Look, I can be turned on my decisions.
		I can be shown the right way.
		And in Elias' direction, he's got to get better in the ring, but otherwise he is a guy, true heel.
		But now people are starting to like him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So it's tough.
		And to be a good heel, a lot of times you eventually have to get your come-uppins.
		That's why a lot of people don't like Stephanie McMahon.
		She's a heel, but she never gets her come-uppin'.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Except from Rowdy Ron to Rousey.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but then she was on TV a couple weeks later or the next night and she didn't have a broken shit at a broken arm.
unidentified		Absolutely.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's all that stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Need the window dressing.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, well, I'm sorry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm just, it's just one of those things where, like that old Batman saying, it's like you're the hero long enough until you become the villain.
		There are just like beloved, like, Tanahashi in Japan, who's like the Hulk Hogan, the John Cena Japan.
		After a while, people kind of start booing him.
		Okada was the champ for a while.
		After a while, people started booing him.
		It just happens.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I can see that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that leads me to my question that I was trying to concern.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That was long.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, very interesting stuff.
		And I think it's ⁇ I think a lot of people wish for life to be a lot like wrestling in terms of that.
		Like, you know, the bad guy having a redemption.
		I know a lot of people ask me about, do you think there was any point where it's possible for Alex to turn face?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It was, but he had that window.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
		No?
		I think from what I've gleaned from studying 2009, I think he was a white supremacist from day one.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't think there's any.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think there's a lot of things that people missed in his language, and he was on board.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can tell, too, when he brings up growing up and his relationship with black people growing up.
		Clearly, there's been some things.
		I bet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he was probably like, I'm the victim of it when I was a kid.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I bet he got a couple.
		I bet, I don't know if it maybe it was a word at a guy.
		I bet it was just one good ass kicking.
		Yeah, and I bet, I bet, like, I bet, here's what I bet.
		One black guy beat up like Alex and three or two of his friends, and they ran away, and he got the brunt of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's possible.
		I mean, who knows?
		No one will be able to tell now.
		But he grew up in Rockwall, Texas, and I looked it up because it's a big suburb of Dallas now.
		But he grew up there in the 70s.
		In the 1970 census, the population was 3,100 people.
		Like, it is a small suburb that probably was, you know, Formula Lake houses, McMansion-type houses.
		Because people didn't want to live in Dallas.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because the population was too high and too urban.
		That's my guess.
		So all his stories about growing up are all stupid.
		But the reason I bring this up, all of this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We had a game we'd play.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		We'd punch the walls hard as we could after the Motley Crew concert.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a good game.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's a good game.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For everyone who hasn't listened to all of our episodes, that is a real thing.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That is a real thing Alex talks about, showing how tough they are by punching a steel door.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not as a kid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it was as an adult.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That was as an adult.
		Sometimes you get a little rowdy.
		I get it, Alex.
		Sometimes me and my friends get rowdy and drunk, and we chop each other at bars.
		You know what I mean?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Marty, this is what I want to get to.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who are your top five heels of all time in the WWE WCW era?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say, Roger Stone, number one.
		Roger Stone is the best heel in the game right now.
		Absolutely.
		And I always talk about this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's the Ric Flair of InfoWars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a dirty player.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You know how Starbucks shut down for a day and they made everybody have those race relations things?
		If I ran MSNBC, CNN, all those guys, I would sit them down.
		They would shut down for one day.
		We would watch that Roger Stone documentary.
		Get Roger Stone.
		And we would just be like, this is the playbook.
		You guys are not playing by the playbook.
		Some guys are.
		Sam Cedars, dude?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Michael Brooks and Cedars.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's the dude.
		That's the dude.
		Of anybody, that's the dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But all these other people.
		Okay.
		Top five heels.
		All right.
		Now, someone would say, if you're a great heel, you shouldn't get cheered.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You should be sincerely hated.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And so right now, Tommaso Chiampa, one of the best.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Down in NXT.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Down in NXT.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's got a championship match coming up against Aleister Black.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My boy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So he is awesome for so many reasons.
		Unfollowed everybody on Twitter.
		I understand.
		He had done follow me.
		I understand.
		Former Wrestling with Depression guest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very sad.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Very, very nice guy.
		But I don't know this version of Tommaso.
		He did throw a chair at my head at a show one time, but he was nice about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Those things happen.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So, just a dick on Twitter.
		He wears this t-shirt.
		He goes, I bet you want this t-shirt.
		Guess what?
		It ain't for sale.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's awesome.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Foregoing the t-shirt sales.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I saw that match with Johnny Gargano where he came out with no music.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just everyone booing at him.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No music.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just boo.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Batista had a heel run.
		No music.
		He would sit in the room.
		Oh, just so good.
		So good.
		Or Austin back in the day, when he was a bad guy, he became a chicken shit.
		You can't be Stone Cold.
		I'll whip everybody's ass.
		He was a chicken shit.
		He would complain.
		One of my favorite promos he ever cut, and my friend and I reference this all the time.
		He just, after just a rough day, he just got in the ring.
		He was getting his ass kicked by everybody, and he just got in the ring.
		And he's like, my name is Stone Cold Steve Austin.
		I'm a former four-time WWF champion, and I don't deserve this.
		And it was like the best, right?
		So of all time, Flair, because Flair was another one of those guys where he would piss you off because he would do everything he could to cheat, to win, and you'd be like, I paid money, which is at the end of the day in wrestling, what you want.
		You want people to want to pay money to see you lose or to see you win.
		So I paid multiple times thinking, this is Lex Luger's time.
		This is Stengerson.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's going to get him in the rack.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		This is, you know, Brian Pillman's, they're going to win, and I cannot fucking wait.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So Flair.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And again, also, just to make the Roger Stone comparison even further, both of them, glamour pusses.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fancy dressers.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		For sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to put these in order.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, yeah.
		So Flair, for sure, one of the, and this is kind of modern day or in the last, you know, our lifetime.
		Yeah, Flair, another four horseman, Tully Blanchard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Tully Blanchard was one of the four horsemen, most known for being partners with Darn Anderson and having just this was a guy who people fucking hated.
		There's some guys in wrestling where I forgot who Lance Storm.
		There was Lance Storm is a great wrestler, but a trainer also.
		He's a little more known for being a great trainer.
		And he was telling Dolph Ziggler there was a hip toss or something, which is a move that the good guys do more than the bad guys.
		And he even told him, he goes, don't even worry about really nailing this move down because people are going to just always hate you.
		You know, which is like, you just have one of those fucking faces people are going to hate.
		Tully Blanchard, King.
		No one ever was like, one day we want to really cheer him.
		No redeeming qualities.
		Just a total piece of garbage.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think my only knowledge of him is from when you made me watch that like Heroes of Wrestling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he was in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which was a disaster.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He had a funny story where when Ted Turner bought WCW, they were like, guys, we're having a meeting.
		Everyone's going to get interviewed.
		Nobody will know your answers.
		We just want to talk to you.
		And they're like, Tully, what needs to be fixed about this company?
		He's like, get Dusty Rhodes the fuck out of booking.
		This fucking guy, all he does is put himself over.
		They're like, they told Dusty they fired.
		You got a raw deal there.
		But Tully, Ric Flair, Tully Blanchard.
		Then there's like the heels that are red hot because of the political climate.
		So the Russians back in the day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Any Russian, really.
unidentified		Any.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But like Nikita Koloff back in the day, the Russian nightmare.
		This guy came out of nowhere.
		He was jacked.
		He was as big as he could hang with the Road Warriors.
		He was a monster.
		He was awesome.
		Let's see.
		Who else?
		Let's go modern.
		Right now, it's tough now because everyone's so like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who cares about the last like, let's say, 10 years?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Who cares about it?
		Now it's more like a sport where it's just like, you know what I mean?
		It's like this.
		I thought, I'm trying to think, like, I mean, there's also where you have to talk about, like, there's the heel heat, which is like, yeah, we want to see him beat.
		And then there's the, like, go away.
		Well, we don't even want you here.
		Jeff Jarrett back in the day when they were trying to build DNA or at the end of WCW when that guy would win.
		There was a TNA pay-per-view where you had to like hang the belt.
		It was such a fucking Russo, like, would book this guy, Vince Russo, who would tell people what to do, or here's my plan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Famous for convoluted ways to win a match.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So they, in wrestling, they have this fun match called the ladder match where they hang the title from the ceiling from like a rope and you got to climb a ladder and pull it down.
		That's me.
		That's simple.
		This one, you had to pin a guy to be able to put the title on the thing.
		And like Garrett won one time and everyone starts throwing garbage in the ring.
		You just hear everyone just like, oh, you know, Raven and ECW had a real moment where he was awesome.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Tommy Dreamer was the good guy.
		He was the bad guy.
		It was perfect.
		It was fantastic.
		Nowadays, too, it's like you'll hear the old wrestlers be like, the wrestlers nowadays are afraid of heat.
		They don't want that heat of like, we're going to cause a fucking riot here because back in the day when people didn't know it was real or predetermined, whatever you want to call it, they thought it was real.
		And, you know, somebody would do something, and it's just like, holy shit.
		And they're just like, this old wrestler, he's like, when they're making a lot of noise, you know you're doing a good job.
		He goes, when you know you're being a real bad dude and you hear nothing, that's when they're running out of the ring.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You got to fight your way out and stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I can see the gears turning in your head because you can tell that there's an answer, I hope you say, and you aren't coming up.
		Like, you're, I can tell you've seen it.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, Vince, Vince was one of the worst.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or Mr. McMahon wrong.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Mr. McMahon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you, you haven't named who I was hoping you'd name, but I will say this.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Zeb Coulter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I am now.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You're hoping I say Zeb Coulter to tie this into Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I am now going to make Alex Jones the greatest heel to you and your fans and a lot of our listeners who love wrestling with this clip.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And all of this is going on.
		He got about, you know, a large portion of the audience that thinks it's real.
		I've known adults that will call in and go, it's real.
		No, no, it's real.
		It's real.
		And I'm like, really?
		I've seen somebody body slammed who was in a coma.
		You know, this is not real.
		Okay, I'll assure you, grown men who are six foot eight, pounding each other in the face one time, blood's going to be pouring everywhere.
		No, it ain't.
		But almost all these folks have never been in a real fight.
		They're like little arrested development, toddling potbellies, you know, who are like, we're going to go to the other white Hispanic black.
		It's like, it's the same.
		They look the same.
		They act the same.
		It's real.
		Let's go watch the big guy fight.
		It's real.
		I mean, most of them got about 80 IQs.
		They're borderline.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Pause for one second.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Mentally retarded.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm very sad about this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's up?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So, add to the list of a black guy beating up Alex.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Alex was also beaten up by a wrestling guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A pro wrestler.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Probably a fan of the Von Ericks back in the day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In this extended rant that he does, he does bring up watching the Von Erickson when he was younger.
		This was taken from an episode where he got really mad because Zeb Coulter and Jack Swagger got introduced as racist characters.
		And apparently, a piece of their character was that they liked Alex Jones.
		Sure, sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So he was doing the we the people gimmick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was furious about that.
		And he goes on to scream about Vince McMahon as an establishment Republican.
		Sure.
		His dumb wife running for Senate now as a member of Charles.
		So that was one piece.
		But I will say, I wanted to talk about that, and I thought that that would be our episode today.
		But I listened to it, and it really wasn't all that interesting.
		And the way he talked about a bunch of other stuff mixed in, it was just like, yeah, this isn't this.
		Our last episode that we did was when Kane was on.
		That was super exciting.
		We got to see the demon man.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Back in full force, Team Wood Daniel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Looking great, too.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Team, hell no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I saw a little.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's the mask, maybe.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's the mask.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, his body.
		Sure.
		The last time I saw him, I remember him looking pretty fat.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, he also has the singlet on now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's hiding it a little bit.
		But he's looking great.
		And he's like 50-something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would love to say good luck in the mayoral race, but I know that you're a fucking stupid libertarian, so I hope you lose.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's a slam dunk.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's going to win.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's unfortunate.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Slam dunk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Politics suck.
		So I'll talk to you about cryptocurrency or the main event picture in the WWE.
		His town is going to be a good idea.
		I'm very interested in crypto coins.
		It's going to be nonsense.
		So I realized that that episode where he's complaining about Jack Swagger being sort of related to him somehow.
		And he's like, I remember when that was going on in wrestling, and like, Jack Swagger was not the main event logo.
		No, And Alex is presenting it as he's the big bad guy of the WWE.
		No.
		And he's also presenting it as most of his character is about liking Alex Jones.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he was upper mid-card.
		Sure.
		He was top of the middle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the other thing he keeps saying is every night he goes out and gets beat by a Mexican.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, Del Rio, and then they join them together, which made no sense.
		So Zeb, the manager, Zeb Coulter, who is Dirty Dutch Mantel.
		That's his old name.
		That dude used to wrestle in Puerto Rico and was a bad guy in Puerto Rico.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty scary.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he'd been stabbed.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That guy's got stories.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I remember that the WWE put out a video, or maybe it was just Swagger and Coulter put out a video where they're like, we are playing characters.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they had to do that.
		That's when you know, too, and that's why they broke K-Fabers.
		That's why it can't get, you know what I mean?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because you could incite something.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		The most recent guy who is out there today, he's in the Independence.
		He wrestles for AAW, where I do commentary for.
		He's an Impact Wrestling.
		He's all over.
		Sammy Callahan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know the name.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know his work.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He is a guy who is like, I'm going to be real old school on this.
		So there was a match in Impact Wrestling where he put a chair on Eddie Edwards, who was laying on the mat, put a chair on his chest, opened up chest, opened up the chair, and he was supposed to hit the chair with an aluminum bat, and it would make a great big noise.
		It probably wouldn't hurt all that much.
		It would be like, woo.
		For whatever reason, he didn't plan it out right.
		And instead of hitting the chair, he just hit him in the face.
		And he busted his orbital real bad.
		And Sammy, instead of being like, oh, man, I'm so sorry, just went on Twitter and he's like, it's wrestling.
		Tough shit.
		Sorry.
		Like, I hit you.
		Big deal.
		What are you going to do about it?
		And people were like, no, that is not cool.
		And he was like, I'm fucking leading into this.
		I'm going to be a bad guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that's probably a good thing for the act or for the art.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But then sometimes it goes too far.
		And then they have to be like, hey, man, I'm playing a character.
		Well, when you're inciting racial hatred, the Davaris recently, they were in the Greatest Royal Rumble in Saudi Arabia, and they came out and they cut these promos, the Iranians.
		Yeah, and they were like, hey, man, I'm just playing a character.
		I mean, no harm.
		So that's the deal back in the day was like, yeah, man.
		Like, there was a moment where Jesse Ventura apparently suggested multiple InfoWars.
		Let's light the flag on fire.
		It's legal now.
		Let's have Sergeant Slaughter light the flag on fire.
		And they thought about it, and then they ended up lighting a Hulkamania shirt on fire and stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would have lit the flag.
		I would have been fine with that.
		If I were.
unidentified		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There was a group called the Un-Americans post-9-11, and they were going to light a flag on fire.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's bad timing.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There was a cool one back in the day with, again, Davari.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Sean Davari was the manager of Muhammad Hassan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And it was after 9-11, and they were like, they had an interesting.
		See, it's like a bad guy in a movie.
		It's like a heel should think he's right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And he was like, I didn't change.
		You guys changed the way you looked at me.
		This isn't on me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His whole thing, if I recall, was that he was a bad guy because of everyone hating him because he's a Muslim.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's like, I used to go to airports all the time, and there was no problem.
		But now I go to airport, and you're all looking at me and pointing at me and stuff like that.
		And he was kind of like, this is on you, not me.
		And then, you know, but then there's the extreme thing where a big trope in wrestling would be foreign wrestler beats up American, takes their flag, puts it over them as the show goes off the air.
		Oh, my God.
unidentified		You know, there was as if it was a burial shroud.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
		And then what was the end of the Muhammad Hassan character was they had filmed.
		Smackdown used to be taped on Tuesday, and it would air on Friday when this happened.
		So they had done an angle where Muhammad Hassan was feuding with The Undertaker and choked him out with these terrorist guys that came in the ring.
		They all had all covered and balaclava.
		Well, they were more like tactical.
		They had black hoods on and stuff, like black tactical ski masks and black shield gear fully covered.
		And then after they choked out The Undertaker, they carried his body like you would see.
		What do they call it in the Middle East when somebody they like parade him through the streets, they have him held up and it's like a terrorist-y type of like tribute thing or something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if that's a thing, and I don't know if it, if it is a thing, I don't know the name of it.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever seen that where they carry him through the streets?
unidentified		But anyway, I mean, it's just a funeral procession, I imagine.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, they, and this was right after the London bombings.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 7-7.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I think right after it happened, the USA Network's like, you got to get rid of this guy.
		Not repackage him.
		Not make him a, you know, now I'm a, now I'm a rapper.
		You know what I mean?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, guys, I was wrong.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It was like, get him, you got to get him out of here.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So that was it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That sucks.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's some good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's, you know, we've now had a good 25 minutes of heel talk.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's all been leading up to what I think is one of the weirder things I've ever found in my diving into InfoWars.
		And that is that one of the great heels of the wrestling past was a surprise guest on InfoWars.
		And I'll let you deal with this as it plays.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's super exciting to have Rowdy Roddy Piper on with us today from Los Angeles there in Sean Stone's living room.
		Both guys are with us.
		And, you know, it's great.
		I've gotten to be good friends with Jesse Ventura.
		I know these two guys are friends as well, or have been in the past.
		And so now I get to talk to both of them.
		And Mr. Piper, formerly, of course, born Roderick George Toomes, it is great to have you on the worldwide broadcast, sir.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much for having me.
		Would you mind just introducing me every place I go?
		That was a fantastic introduction.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Charmed him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also, I would say that that's probably Rowdy Roddy Piper's standard response because that was a terrible introduction.
unidentified		Star of documentary They Live.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's going to factor heavily into this interview.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But all he says for an introduction there, not is like, you know, one of the greatest of all time.
		Someone who is not only Piper is one of the greatest heels of all time.
		That's what I was trying to leave.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I am so dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what I was saying.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		God damn it, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you just got caught up in all the other great heels.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But if I also watched some of Rowdy's old stuff, oh boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He would tip.
		I mean, I was going to say tiptoe around racial stuff.
		No, he was flat outrageous.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And homophobic like crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure, sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But some of the racial shit he did, like with Scottish.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Well, he's being bad, or they shaved a mohawk into the Haiti kid's head.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he needed a haircut.
		Yeah.
		The thing, though, I need to really nail this down.
		That's a terrible introduction.
		All he does is say his real name and then mention that he's friends with Jesse Ventura.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
unidentified		You won on my Wikipedia page and everything, Mr. Stone.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm very happy to be here.
unidentified		Or Mr. Stone, Mr. Well, no, because John Stone is there.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Who's that?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		His son?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that is Oliver Stone's kid.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oliver Stone's kid is a little bit of a he's been behaving himself lately.
		I don't know, man.
		I don't know what he's up to.
		Yeah.
		But, you know, a lot of Oliver Stone's films are dubious in terms of their historical accuracy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you what.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And his son is worse.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I watched W.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I watched the last probably 30 minutes of W at a hotel a couple weekends ago.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the one with Brolin?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It is so weird.
		It's like watching an SNL sketch with no comedy.
		It's so weird.
		The woman playing Condoleezza Rice is just like, it's so over the top and so weird.
		And I will say, I watched any given Sunday a couple years ago.
		That still held up.
		This was just like, oh, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It was so unbelievably bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm thrilled to say I've never watched that.
		It never appeared very much.
		Yeah.
		I've seen any given Sunday, and I would agree, having not seen it in a while.
		I bet it doesn't matter.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It was great.
		It was great.
		I could see that.
		I wonder, too, though.
		There was that scene in there where W, which is kind of funny now that he's like lovable president goofball.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's just like a painter now.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Hides under the raincoat with Michelle Obama and stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're trying to rehab his image, even though he's responsible for millions of deaths.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, Trump might reveal some news on W. He's going to be doing a jack off motion here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just like he's going to release all the JFK files.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just like he's going to unleash all the secret technology and healing machines that if anybody believes that stuff, I got a bridge that I'd like to say.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy, though.
		Had he died on the pretzel, had he choked on the pretzel.
		Could you imagine?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would be like Selena.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But it would have been like one of those things of just a reverse.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because people like Selena.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No.
		I forgot whose joke it was.
		Whose joke was it?
		This is, I got, I wish I maybe it was Greg Giraldo, where he was like, everyone's saying George W. Bush is the worst president of all time.
		He goes, the worst?
		He goes, I think the president of Selena's fan club might be a little worse.
unidentified		Boom.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Great joke.
unidentified		Geraldo.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I think that's Giraldo.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Speaking of which, rest in peace for Addie Roddy Piper.
		This is very sad that he was on InfoWars.
		You know what?
		I tried to, because I remember him as kind of like a boozer.
		And maybe that's not, maybe that was just more his character.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He partied.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I also remembered him as kind of not a good guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But when I went and looked into it, it seems like he was a good guy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's a good guy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's a guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what threw me for a huge.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's the thing with Roddy is: I think, and he's a wrestler, so he's going to put himself out there for promotion.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He had his podcast, so he was probably pushing that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is in 2013.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if he had a podcast in 2013.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I think 15.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he died in 2015.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Okay, then yes.
		Yeah.
		Then he was trying to get his podcast off the ground.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		So.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So maybe Sean Stone's helping him out with that.
unidentified		He's a guy.
unidentified		Yep.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		He's a guy who, and I know a lot of people who like, there were comics in L.A. who buddied up to him.
		And he was like, I'm open to it.
		If this gets the word out, let's do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You do some stand-ups.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He would do some stand-up.
		He would do shows.
		He was into it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I remember seeing that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I knew a couple people who worked with him, I think.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And he was like, what are we going to do?
		Let's do it.
		He was on Colt's podcast.
		Couldn't have been cooler.
		The Young Bucks talk about how, who are the most popular independent tag team or wrestlers on the planet right now.
		They talk about seeing him at a convention and being like, oh man, this dude would spend time with fans.
		He wasn't just like, hi, let me sign this.
		Get the fuck out of here.
		He was like, he would spend time with fans, and that changed their approach.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I think that that was one of the things I thought was really weird.
		I always had an image of him as kind of like maybe being a shithead.
		Maybe like someone who was arrested a bunch of times.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it seems like he lived maybe a hard life, but a pretty good life.
		Seemed like treated people pretty well.
		And that's, I mean, it's not super rare in wrestling terms, but like you always get surprised by things.
		Like, I just learned recently that Kurt Angle had a bunch of DUIs.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, a bunch.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And was deep into drugs for years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I had no fucking idea.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You hear, that's why he was able to leave the first time.
		They're like, you got to go.
		Because I had a friend who was working there at the time, and they're like, they're like, this was when Kurt Angle and Eddie Guerrero were feuding.
		And they're like, one or both of them are going to die.
		And I was like, what?
		And they're like, they're both out of control.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Eddie Guerrero.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I thought you said Rey Mysterio.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would love to imagine Rey Mysterio.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Having these matches where they would, like, Eddie would get in a ball and be like, don't touch me.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And, like, it was insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just like psychosis or something like that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Just like he was so hurt, his body was just done and all this stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I thought you meant he was like in a ball of feet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And then finally, they're like, yo, Kurt Angle, you got to go to rehab.
		And he was like, no, I'm fine.
		And they're like, we're going to fire you then.
		He's like, fine, fire me.
		Then he went to TNA and then got a bunch of trouble there.
		And they were always like, well, you know, what are you going to do?
		And finally, he got clean.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's an example of something.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And Eddie Guerrero passed away.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was very sad.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But like, you know, I don't know a lot of these people's personal lives, but the ones that you hear about generally are like Eddie Guerrero.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like a real tragedy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You hear, especially too, when someone dies.
		That's when you hear the Benois.
		You hear the good or bad about them or whatever.
		Well, you know, but with Piper around the board, everybody was on his side.
		They said he was great.
		Stood up for the wrestlers.
		When you watch, there's like a, remember Wife Swap when that was terrifying.
		Ric Flair and his now like fiancé or whatever, Fifi from WCW.
		And you could tell Piper and his wife, you know, I mean, they probably cheated, whatever.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everybody likes to swing.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They all did back in the day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Another Roger Stone parallel with Ric Flair.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, he seems like a family guy and stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that kind of bums me out that he was on Infowars because, you know, you always kind of want to.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You always want to ascribe some sort of like, oh, that's why he's on InfoWars.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's a secret shit.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I do think, though, that Alex and InfoWars has a weird thing where they can not trick or it looks legitimate enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bingo.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It looks legitimate enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's big enough.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's big enough.
		Because what do people do?
		How many followers does he go?
unidentified		Oh, shit.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A couple million?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		And wow.
		Play me.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I ain't a little crazy.
		Yeah.
		Piper pilot.
		Yeah, fucking everyone I know is crazy.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, Piper's crazy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Jesse's been on it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, cool.
unidentified		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Jesse knows what he's talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		That's how people like Henry Rollins ended up being guests on InfoWars.
		What the fuck is Henry Rollins doing?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And I think there are people who do the whole like, you know, well, he's not wrong about everything.
		Or there's people who are like, you need to talk to these people.
		If you just ignore, if you only go on the Stephanie Miller show, big deal.
		You're not changing anybody's minds.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All of these theories are interesting, and I wish any of them were true.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It turns out that Roddy Piper is a lunatic.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Ah, shit, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he loves Alex Jones.
		And we'll get to that here in a few.
		But Alex, for most of this interview, it's about an hour long or so.
		Most of it is him gushing about They Live and talking about how much he loves They Live.
		He's seen it a hundred times.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex thinks it's a documentary.
		And so here is Roddy talking a little bit about the history of that film.
		And I think this is actually kind of interesting because it gives a perspective that Alex never gives.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's great to have you on.
		I tell you, so much is happening in the world, but let's get into They Live.
		You've been in a lot of movies, but what's your take on the 25th anniversary of They Live?
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		It's really interesting.
		The movie They Live when it was made was more about Reaganomics at the time.
		But with the as music lulls you to sleep, conspiracies, one of the things that the movie has done is it's taken on a life of its own.
		It never gets old as we see the world evolve and try to make us a little chip.
		The same thing's happening over and over again.
		You watch They Live and it gives you kind of like the cliff notes for what's going on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that I think that's fair.
		I think that what he's saying is an interesting perspective.
		Like, I didn't necessarily ever put two and two together.
		I haven't watched They Live since I was in college and stoned out of my mind and loved it.
		But I never put the pieces together.
		I always just thought it was kind of like a statement on consumerism, statement on artificial messages through advertising and stuff like that.
		I never really put the pieces together of a statement about Reaganomics.
		But I think that's fascinating.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think a lot of those, I think this is going to be another era like the 80s where a lot of stuff was about Reagan.
		And there was that Reagan's America.
		And they're like, but the real deal is this.
		You know what I mean?
		And it was interesting, like that movie.
		There's a lot of movies kind of like that where I think we're going to watch them again now because I was like, I'm watching a lot of these Star Wars videos.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm into this whole do you mean movies or videos?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, YouTube videos.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, about how we need to remake The Last Jedi.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Soilo and the fandom menace and all this stuff.
		I'm into it.
		I'm watching from afar.
		But one of the things, too, though, that I did hear a guy from the UK who was a movie critic, and he was saying, like, yeah, America.
		He's like, man, your movies are really.
		You guys are like, you could tell these are all about Trump.
		And not just Star Wars, just a lot of stuff in general.
		He's like, there's a lot of political, our movies are real politicized right now.
		And I think it was the same thing, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever seen?
		Have you ever seen those?
		I mean, there's a genre of videos that is just people reacting to things that you see.
		And someone in our fucking Facebook group, and I'm sounding angry only because of the time I've wasted, but like someone posted a video of the, there's a series about Irish people watching.
		And the thing that they posted was Irish people watching Alex Jones.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I was fascinated by how quickly they saw through what is going on here.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's protesting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This guy is an angry bigot, and he's trying to sell things.
		It was clear.
		And I watched a couple more of them.
		And it is fascinating how people outside of our primary culture are able to see, like, oh, my God, this is clearly an allegory.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In a way that because of our inundation and familiarity with stuff, we don't recognize as easily.
		And I think you're totally right.
		I think 10 years from now we'll look back and be like, wow, holy shit.
		And that subconscious thread is through a lot of that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And I think a movie can be about, I think art can reflect what's going on in the society at that time.
		There's been great books.
		There's been great movies that have done that.
		But then it's when you beat people over the head with it, and people are like, eh, it's a little too on the nose.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would be the case of like that Snoop Dogg video where he puts a gun to Trump's head or the bang flag comes out.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Stuff like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like, come on, man.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Come on, Austin and Vince already did that.
		You know what I mean?
		But yeah, there are those things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then Pillman and Austin did it better.
unidentified		Yeah, they did.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, that was big time.
		So that's a thing where it's like, when it's too on the nose, it's like, I like maybe reading later or watching later.
		And you're like, actually, that character is supposed to be kind of based on this person.
		And you're like, oh.
		Or when it's just like, get it, I'm Trump.
		It's like, yeah, I know, I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's something to be said for subtlety.
		Yeah.
		And I, you know, so far, so good, Piper.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I think real quick, real quick to sort of talk about that is that's like the first Planet of the Apes, which is about, you know, nuclear war and all this stuff.
		And then in the second Planet of the Apes.
		Yeah, I guess they don't really get to what happened until the second Planet of the Apes is where they have like the ape hippies getting rounded up.
		And it's like, now we're getting a little too.
		The first one was so subtle and cool.
		The second one was.
		Racism.
		There was racism.
		It was like about racism and stuff like that.
		But then they hit you way over the head with it.
		The third one, which is where they go back in time, Zira and Cornelius go back in time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See the beginning of the movie.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You can see the beginning of it all where they were using them as slaves.
		And then they had this big riot and everything.
		And there was a documentary.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did you recently just watch all this?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, There's a documentary about all the Planet of the Apes movies when it was like the anniversary of the original.
		I think AE did it.
		It was so good.
		And they were talking about how the third one at the end, Caesar is like the new leader.
		And he's like, now we claim this planet and it is the planet of the apes.
		They said when they tested it that they tested it in a black neighborhood and black people were going crazy and they were like, yeah.
		And they were like, oh, no, this is going to cause riots and stuff.
		So they recut it.
		And of course, they didn't have a lot of money, so they weren't going to do anything.
		All they did was a close-up of Caesar's eyes.
		And they got the guy, the actor, to come back.
		And he goes, Planet of the Apes.
		But we can do this with humans also together.
		And we will share this planet and show them what it's right to be good or something like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then that falls apart.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Oh, I mean, fuck, yeah.
		But it's like that thing of the difference of the first one, perfect.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Second one, it's like ape hippies.
		Like, come on.
		Man, that's the same thing as like the droid and solo of like, come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I still like all of them.
		But I do, too.
		I'll also say that the best one, Mark Wahlberg one.
		Oh, get out of here.
		I worked at a movie theater when that came out.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And at the time, it was our tradition to, because most of the people who worked there were underage.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was one of the only ways we'd really have.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		What do you tell me about this?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'd have booze stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So you had to screen all of the movies to make sure it's okay on Thursday nights before they came out.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's so cool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the movies would come in as the film, and then they'd get built.
		And then once they were done getting built, if there was an open theater, anyone could sign up to watch it to make sure.
		So the projectionist would put it through and you'd watch it.
		It would be a thing where all of us, like some of our managers were over 21, and so they'd buy us booze.
unidentified		Hell yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we'd just have parties.
unidentified		Hell yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just getting drunk.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I want to work in a movie theater right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was so much fun.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You made me want to work in a movie theater.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was probably like 17, 18 at the time.
		Fuck you.
		Just getting drunk pre-screening these movies.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You probably saw some bad ones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
		The worst was definitely the Planet of the Apes one with Mark Wahlberg.
		And then there was collateral damage with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
		We all almost left.
		We were almost like, this is so bad.
		But one of our managers, Rick, watched the Planet of the Apes one with us because he loved the old Planet of the Apes.
		He was a little older.
		He's in probably late 20s at that time.
		He appeared much older since I was a teen.
		But we're all drinking, having a great time.
		And then at the end, when Mark Wahlberg comes back and you see the Lincoln monument memorial.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But it's an ape's head.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you only see the exterior of the building.
		And as soon as you see it, it's a good 30, 40 seconds until you get inside and you see that it is an ape.
		The whole time, Rick is screaming, Ape Lincoln!
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Ape Lincoln is a Lincoln.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He called it like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When it happened, everyone started throwing stuff like it was a fucking WCW show.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Everyone's like throwing trash up.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I just joined the NWO.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Boo, Ape Lincoln, boo.
unidentified		You know, this trash in the ring represents these fans.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We already hated it, but that was like, that was a bridge too far.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But, all right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You know, the apes made an appearance on Monday Night Raw to promote that.
unidentified		What?
unidentified		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		In costume, the apes.
		The apes came to Raw.
unidentified		No.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did they put someone over?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't know.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I think they might have helped somebody get a victory or something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
		I feel like there's no way that couldn't have been offensive somehow.
		Whoever they choose to have the apes help.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Knowing Vince and Russo back in the day, they would have had them help the nation of dominoes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Mark Henry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Go out there and help Mark Henry.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Why does he have a kinship with Mark Henry?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's like, oh, God, guys, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't make this a storyline.
		Don't do it.
		I mean, to be fair, back then, everybody, the No Limit Soldiers were in the WCW.
		ICP was hanging around.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That was a fun thing where, again, in wrestling, sometimes the bad guys turn out to be the good guys.
		And they're like, well, this is what the fans wanted.
		So they brought in the No Limit Soldiers to WCW.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because then they had Rey Mysterio and Conan were with them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The filthy animals.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and they thought this is going to be huge.
		We got the No Limit Soldiers, the Filthy Animals.
		Master Phoebe, I thought he was kind of on the downward spiral.
		I didn't think he was on top of the world or anything at the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he was either.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They signed some guys that were in his crew to some big money.
		This one black dude, they gave him so much money.
		Swole.
unidentified		Swole.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And they gave him a lot of money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If that was a recording artist, that wasn't.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, he was a bodyguard.
		I think he was his bodyguard or something or a friend.
		And then the opposition was this group called the West Texas Rednecks.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And it's a great song if you want to find it.
		It's called Rap is Crap.
		Kurt Henning, let's see.
		It was Henning, Barry Wyndham, Kendall Wyndham, Bobby Duncom Jr.
		And they had a song called I hate rap because rap is crap.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they made this song as a part of their feud with the No Limit Soldiers.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And it got over, and the crowd loved them.
		And it just completely.
		Because WCW, it's like a southern territory.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so the rednecks ended up being much more popular this year, like crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What are you going to do with Swole?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		How do you let him hurt people or not wrestle and get paid a shitload of money?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jeez.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So all this is to say that Rowdy Roddy Piper.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		So sorry.
		This is like my favorite and my worst topics because then we just go on these tangents.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that's the nature of when you and I get together.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Also, I don't think I want to lose respect of the hot rod.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think you can retain it because of the world.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But I think we, like we said, he probably got not tricked, but I think he was kind of like, hey, however, I can get the word out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think you should save those judgments.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he's kind of stupid, but at the same time, because he's on InfoWars, it kind of does highlight how, even if he is kind of stupid, he's not as bad as the world he's.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And he also claimed that when he painted half of his body black to wrestle Bad News Brown at WrestleMania, that had nothing to do with race.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And it was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I believe it.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He was moonwalking and doing those stay in the, like, it was like, you're dancing and stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		So at this point, he has said that, you know, They Live is about Reaganomics or was about it at the time, but it could be applied to anything.
		And now he gets on to saying some other stuff that I think, based on that, is stupid.
unidentified		Okay.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		You know, John Carpenter, when we shot the scene with the homeless people, he actually used the homeless people there.
		John is a big activist, you know, and I give him all the respect in the world for that.
		And, you know, turning out and showing what the world's become.
		I don't know why America has homeless people.
		It's terrible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
		That's interesting because you made a film about Reaganomics.
		So I'd like to talk a little bit about this because, quite frankly, one of the reasons that homelessness is such a big issue and is so devastating and has been is because of Reagan.
		His policies directly led to the situation that we have on our hands now.
		And if John Carpenter and Rowdy Roddy Piper made a movie about Reaganomics, I think maybe he doesn't understand all that too well.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was interesting growing up because I'm about 10 years older than you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Give or take.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So when I grew up, Reagan was the man where I grew up in Indiana.
		I grew up in Indiana and it was just like Ronald Reagan, what a great leader and all this stuff.
		He's funny and cool and he didn't wear a jacket.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He did a movie with a monkey.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Gorbachev looked an idiot because Gorbachev had this big jacket on and Reagan didn't and all this cool stuff and he would give these speeches and everything.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And then as you get older, you get into like punk rock music and you see some documentaries and you hear some people in these movies and you're just like, was he not a good man?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You read a few things and you're like, oh, no.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Marty, in 1981, on the heels of an economic downturn, unemployment was super high.
		Rockford, Illinois had an unemployment rate of 25%.
		Three states had unemployment rates over 14%.
		At the depths of the 2008-2009 recession, the number was still just around 10% nationally, to give some sort of context.
		It was bad.
		It was really bad.
		People were out of work, having a bad time.
		Noticing that there were tons of unemployed people becoming homeless, Reagan put forth a solution that was not a solution.
		He didn't want the government to do anything, but instead suggested that, quote, every church and synagogue would take in 10 welfare families, and this would solve the problem, because he was stupid and thought that the entire idea of homeless people existing was a temporary notion and would go away when the economy got better.
		This is a stupid plan for one reason, because churches and synagogues are not magical entities.
		If each is required to take in 10 families, which could easily be 50 to 60 people, that's going to cause a pretty big bump to their overhead.
		In times when homelessness rose, there would be churches getting bankrupted like crazy, just trying to provide the help that the government should be providing its citizens as a basic right.
		Reagan's solution is not a solution.
		It's a pathetic attempt to say we shouldn't help that person.
		It's someone else's job.
		To make matters worse, Reagan would slash the budget for the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the department most likely to help house people without stable living conditions.
		Reagan's entire platform seemed to boil down to just insisting that this isn't my job, cutting funding for programs that are desperately needed in order to lower taxes on the rich, because that was the primary motivation.
		And then the final step, blame the victims of his policies for the policy's effects.
		He famously popularized the idea of a welfare queen based on a lie, a complete lie.
		I recommend everyone go listen to the episode of The Dollop.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'd say watch Glow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or, sure, go watch Glow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's great.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		The Welfare Queen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is that a character?
		Yeah.
		Okay.
		The Welfare Queen idea on an episode of The Dollop they did live in Chicago that me and Jordan were actually at.
		It was a great time.
		They lay out the history of the idea of the welfare queen.
		It's outrageous how much deceit was behind it.
		It was fucked up.
		So also he went on Good Morning America and said the people sleeping on grates in the street were doing it by choice.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That sort of thing.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He was completely.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I remember as a kid, too, and I still hear it to this day of like, that homeless guy gets in a Mercedes and drives home.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even when I was a kid, I remember that sort of, they're making figures out there.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He puts on those pants that smell like shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And then he puts them in an airtight bag and puts them in his trunk of his Mercedes and then goes home and counts all your money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you worked at Captain D's Seafood, all your clothes smell like fish.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you think you want that?
		It's the same thing.
		It's a uniform for him with the shit shit clothes.
		Quote, every park bench in America, everywhere a homeless person sleeps, should have Ronald Reagan's name on it, says Peter Dreyer, an urban policy analyst and the director of the Urban Environmental Policy Department at Occidental College in Los Angeles.
		As some indication of how little Reagan gave a shit about this stuff, from an article in the Nation, quote, Early in his presidency, at a White House reception, Reagan greeted the only black member of his cabinet, Housing and Urban Development Secretary Samuel Pierce, saying, Quote, How are you, Mr. Mayor?
		I'm glad to meet you.
		How are things in your city?
		Holy shit.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There's my African-American right there.
unidentified		There he is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we have the same thing now with Ben Carson.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure Trump doesn't recognize him.
unidentified		No.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So also, this is a funny wrestling story.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		About Ben Carson?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, but it's very much how Vince and Trump are the same man.
		They were having a meeting with all the WWE Talent at one point.
		And they were, I forgot what they were talking about.
		There was going to be some new policy or changes were going to be going down or something like that.
		And this black guy, Michael Tarver, I remember that name.
		He was in the original Nexus.
		And he raised his hand to ask a question, which people were like, whoa, this is bold.
		This new guy's just asking a question out of nowhere.
		This is kind of crazy.
		But he raised his hand and asked a question.
		And Vince McMahon goes, Excellent question, Shelton.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He thought he was Shelton Benjamin, a guy who was no longer with the company.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Also, the reason I thought I recognized that name is because of comedian Drew Tarver.
		That's why I thought Tarver is not a common name.
		Also, so this is from San Francisco Weekly.
		Quote, a UN declaration in 1966, the International Covenant on Economic, Social, and Cultural Rights codified this.
		The UN member nations, including the United States, a permanent member of the UN Security Council and the UN's host nation, signed an agreement that recognized the right of everyone to an adequate standard of living for himself and his family, including housing.
		Though the U.S. signed the treaty, the Senate never ratified it, making America one of only two UN member states to fail to ratify, along with Thailand.
		The U.S. has either failed to sign or failed to ratify at least six other international treaties in which housing was declared a human right.
		And at this point, I should come out very clearly and make my advocacy clear.
		I believe it is.
		I believe that housing should be provided by the government.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Now we've done a cool, fun thing.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		If anybody's been in Chicago and sat on a bus stop bench or anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That little.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man, they've made them, they lean forward.
		They've got pegs everywhere.
		There's a lot of places downtown where they have kind of like spiky things where you can't lay on them or the underpasses.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		The overpasses rather.
		They've got the concrete boards down where you can't do that or anything.
		It's weird to think that's someone's job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy that it's someone's job to argue for that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, like some politics.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Like, I'm just some city planner guy, and I'm like, dang, get in here.
		Do you know those park benches, right?
		Too comfortable.
		People are sleeping on them.
		Get to work.
		Make them uncomfortable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We need razor blades.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Make them uncomfortable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what's crazy, too?
		We went and did a show in Austin, and when we were down there in the downtown area, there's a lot of homeless folk.
		And I saw what I would describe as one of the most dystopian pictures I've ever seen in my life.
		We were leaving the show and walking down the street.
		And there was an area where it was clearly a place where people got food and stuff like that.
		And so there was a lot of people hanging around.
		And that wasn't that weird to me.
		That was kind of like, this is very sad, and I feel bad about the fact that this exists.
		We should be doing better.
		But that was sort of like, I've seen stuff like that before, maybe.
		We walked a little bit further, and then there was a giant, I don't know, maybe a Chase building.
		It was some huge company.
		There's a giant modern, ornate building.
		Like, it was gorgeous.
		And then, if you just looked right in front of you on the planter, there was just someone passed out, you know, just almost naked.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just blah.
		And I was just like, the juxtaposition of this giant new billion-dollar building and someone sleeping in their planter just made me so fucking depressed.
		Made me so sad.
		And with the knowledge that we can fix that.
		We can do better.
		Now, maybe we can't fix everybody's problems, but the idea that people are sleeping on the street is something we absolutely can fix.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And this was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We just adjust our priorities slightly.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		This was a thing where Reagan, it was weird too.
		Like, I remember going to D.C. back in the 90s, and you think, like, oh, cool, I'm going to go see the White House.
		And then, like, two blocks away, you're like, oh, this is a nightmare.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we talked about Skid Row on our Alyssa Lamb episode.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's just, there's places like that in almost every city.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So you see that.
		And you wonder with Reagan, too, where you hear about this, you hear about his lack of a response to HIV just being cruel response.
		Cruel response and stuff like that.
		And you wonder, like, how are you this cruel?
		Or how was this pitched to you that, like, nah, nah, nah, there's these things called welfare queens.
		They're just taking money from the government.
		They all, here's another thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But how are they doing it now?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, growing up.
		Growing up in Indiana, I heard a lot of all these black people who live in the projects, they all have giant TVs.
		They all have cable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That got transferred into Obama phones.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they all have phones.
		None of them work.
		They all get $500 a week.
		They don't, you know what I mean?
		It's just like you hear all this, and I'm just like, oh, okay, I guess that's the deal.
		And then you watch a documentary and you're like, oh, oh, that's a nightmare to live in Cabrini Green.
		You know what I mean?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I think that that's the, you know, I don't know.
		I haven't thought this out too much.
		This thought might come out weirdly.
		But I think that that's the comfortable illusion that people have to have in order to not scream, we have to fix the problem.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, because if everybody was really aware of how people were living and stuff like that, they'd be like, oh, no, this isn't okay.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's why Undercover Boss is such a great show, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		So the people who want to cut taxes on corporations and the rich and people who want to strip Medicare, strip Medicaid, strip welfare programs.
		They have to create the illusion that all these people are cheating in the same way.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Because then you feel fine fucking them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And because you're not fucking them, you're righting the wrongs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the same way that right now we have the two versions of what's really going on with these immigrants at the border with Mexico, you have the one version, which is like they're all illegal immigrants, which doesn't take into account the idea that a lot of them are people seeking refugee status, which is not illegal in any way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And even if they are coming illegally or whatever, that is not a crime, really.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's why a lot of our families came here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		There's that too.
		And then the other version, which is the even crazier version, which is much closer to Alex Jones, is that they are actually human traffickers.
		So you have to create these illusions, these false realities, in order to justify the cruelty that's going on.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's the thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is the cruelty in both cases is a function of white supremacy.
unidentified		Sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, are they coming here to suck on the welfare teeth or are they here to take our jobs?
		You know what I mean?
		There's all these contradictions of like, they're coming here taking our jobs.
		They're coming here and not working.
		It's like, which one is it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's got to be one.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Or this whole thing of just, I mean, it's like, they're all just, like, you'll go on.
		I've kind of, like I told you, I've taken a little bit of a media diet, and I'm not really addicted to a whole lot of stuff.
		But you would watch those videos of like, hey, here's all these Republicans talking about Supreme Court judges.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, let's take a break.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Let's not.
		And it's like, but now we've got to do it.
		We've got to do it right now.
		It's like, there's always that horse shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what me and Jordan talk about all the time: is they're like, the idea of telling a Republican or someone on the right that they're being hypocritical is pointless.
unidentified		Sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's because the Roger Stone narrative is just like even saying, keep punching.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		You're wrong.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not.
		And you're wrong.
		And here's why.
		It's like, no, you being wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Never show your ass.
		If your ass is exposed, fart on somebody.
		Yeah, basically.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		My ass isn't exposed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's your ass.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You're crazy.
		Yeah.
		You're lying about my ass being exposed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Asses don't exist.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So that whole thing.
		And I've talked to you about this, especially with Dick Cheney and stuff like that.
		It's like, how much money is enough to where you're like, people are dying, but this Halliburton, baby, we're making some money.
		It's like, how much is enough money?
		And you want to be like the king of, or have all the money, and then no one else does.
		Like, if I was one of these elites in the United States, I would be like, this country's falling apart.
		Like, wouldn't you want, instead of me having four billion, maybe I only have two, but then a lot of the people around me are living well enough to where they're not like, let's go to that mansion and rip that fucking guy out of there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think they know that that stage is far off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They don't watch the dark knight and go, oh no, or the dark knight rises.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh no, they might come to our penthouse and pull us out of this out of the throw us in the streets.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're making the same mistake Alex does in thinking fiction is reality.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, that's right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think, too, that what we don't recognize, and I think Alex does a really clunky job of expressing this, but I think he expresses it a little bit.
		And that is that we can't possibly understand the motivations of people on higher levels than us.
		You know what I mean?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Like for you and I. Just the Jack Nicholson fucking, you don't know what it's like to have pressure making those decisions in a few good men.
		You know what I mean?
		When he's like, you can't handle the truth and all that stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sort of.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Of being like, I'm in a position where I have to make tough decisions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		I don't even mean it like that.
		Although I do think there is something to that.
		What I mean more is that you and I, in terms of money, we just want to get by.
		Yeah.
		The level of the game we're playing is like, we want to get by.
		Now, let's assume you get married and have kids.
		I'm saying you, because that's not going to happen for me.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Hey, you never know that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Calm down.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You never know that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But assume you get married and have kids, then you enter sort of a next level, which is like, I need to have a house.
unidentified		Yes.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And now you're planning for these kids' futures.
unidentified		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Your financial concern becomes like, can I help them through college or whatever version it is in your head?
		And then there's another level above that, which is like business ownership, probably.
		And then there's a level above that, which is dynasty building.
unidentified		Yeah, baby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, when you get into sick money, you're at the point where you're like, I want no one that ever comes from my loins to have to work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want Rockefeller money.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Hell yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That sort of shit.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I want an oil painting of me that'll last for generations.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		People will go, great-great-grandfather Martin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And some of that comes from money.
		Some of it comes from great deeds or whatever.
		Great.
		I don't mean good.
		I mean big.
		So I think that there's a decent chance that even with Dick Cheney, as much of a monster as he is, as much damage as he caused, I think that there's a possibility that somewhere deep within his dark replaced heart.
		I think that there's a possibility that he believed that by doing really, really terrible things, he could reach a positive outcome, which might be.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Like, I'm just breaking some eggs to make an omelet, baby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to say that excuses or anything.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's like the hips.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a chance that he thought that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then you come out the other side, you forgive all of the innocents that I've killed in order to have this toxic mana.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Do you wonder, like, and I was, I was watching a Nazi documentary as I want to do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I was like, I thought you would have watched them all by now.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, there's still new ones that come out.
		Hitler's bodyguards.
		But there's these, they're every once in a while.
		And you kind of wonder, you're just like, like one guy, like, he was the architect, Himmler or something like that.
		And they're just like, this is one of the true architects of the, you know, of all of Hitler's plans and stuff.
		And you wonder if, like, they were all just sitting on a table.
		And like, one guy's like, I'm going to throw this out there.
		This is going to sound crazy.
		But what if that was.
		Do you want to hear a crazy story?
		A crazy wrestling story?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Does this have to do with Hitler's?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, it's kind of one of those.
		I'm going to throw this out there.
		Oh, boy.
		So I had a friend who used to write WWE Creative was one of the writers there.
		And they were all sitting around a table.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Was it Freddy Prince Jr.?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Okay.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It was who is a dear close friend of mine.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Freddie Prince.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		But they were all sitting around the table and Denzel Man's like, God damn it.
		I want some fucking idea.
		Somebody give me something.
		And I won't say who the old wrestler who was like an 80.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No need to put people's business on the streets.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And he's like, look.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's Freddy Prince.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to throw this out there.
		No, he's a former wrestler.
		Freddy Prince.
		I'm going to throw this out there.
		And I might sound crazy for this.
		Hell, I might even get fired for this.
		I'm going to put it out there.
		What if Mark Henry in a match gets hurt, gets hit in the head?
		High school of the hospital.
		We find out later via x-rays.
		Gorilla.
unidentified		Oh, like, what?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I think Vince was like, I appreciate your input, but now let's move on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's, I imagine Vince was like, that's great.
		We can't do that yet.
		That's great.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to say this.
		This might go over great.
		This might get me fired.
		But I'm going to say this.
		And he threw that out there to the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Your delivery on that was strong.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And everybody just went, whoa.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would have probably been fine at some point, though.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, probably in the 80s.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, he impregnated that lady and they gave birth to a hand in 2000 or 98.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But I am getting back to what we were talking about.
		I am – and I think this is sort of – We're way off track.
		Sure.
		I – I think there is sort of this thing of like the real powerful, the elites are like, listen, like, I don't know.
		There has to be like, dad, I hear a lot of, like, Ron Reagan Jr.
		You know, he's, he's, I keep seeing this commercial for him about atheism.
		He's like, are you sick of people talking about God?
		He has, he's part of this like new atheist thing or whatever.
unidentified		Gross.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And I know he's pretty, he's, he's obviously liberal and things like that, and he's been outspoken about stuff.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But it's especially too, like, you got to wonder if like you're growing up and you're just like, hey, man, turns out, I think my dad might not have been the coolest dude on the planet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, turns out my dad sucks.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, a lot of people have to go through that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we're going through it in this next clip with Rowdy Roddy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God, please.
		I'm so sorry.
		No more sidetracks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think this clip is where I will.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Is this where you lost faith in the hot rod?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, and you probably will as well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's where I was like, up till this next clip, it was where I was like, maybe he doesn't know what show he's on.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Unfortunately, this clip happens.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But you know, one of my favorite lines is, because I feel like this all the time trying to politically awaken people that they're being lied to, that there's an agenda.
		It's not left or right.
		It's, hey, there's mind control going on.
		The signals broadcast 24 hours a day through all this media.
		Just become aware of it, and they'll say there's nothing going on.
		And I want to say, put on these glasses or start chewing concrete.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		Without a doubt.
		Without a doubt.
		By the way, I'm a big booster of you.
		I've watched some of your Taking care of America and watching a hotel room while the buzzing was going on.
		And I think you do a terrific job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That hurts.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, what was going on?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably he was going around to doing rest of the world.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I blame concussions.
		Well, that also.
		Yeah.
		A rough life.
		No, I blame people turning Roddy on to Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's someone's.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I've got to see Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know who Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I think, I mean, you and I are even examples of people without a close examination of Alex were like, this guy's wild.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, we didn't think he was as big of a problem as we.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And I think Roddy probably identifies or feels a bit of a kinship with him in the sense of like, he's a showman just like me.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You know?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And back in the 90s, Roddy Piper did extensive battles with the NWO.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He and Ric Flair got together.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I kind of cowers over nobody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		What was that when he had tried to get a family together?
		Didn't Piper try and fight the NWO?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he tried to start his own group.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, and then had to get Flair, right?
		Wasn't that how that worked?
		I have very vague memories of this.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There was a really bad night show where he tried to get his own group together.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His own posse?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it was a disaster.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Got the No Limit Soldiers.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there was a lot of faction warfare back in the day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it should come back.
		But I also think it's incredibly disappointing to hear I'm a big booster of you.
		Because like we said before, it's an accident.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I was really bummed out when I heard that Joe Rogan being like, Alex, I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he always is.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's a friend.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's known Alex for like 20 years.
unidentified		Oh, it's just.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They went back.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They would go back to the bottom of the city.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Why did Alex turn on Rogan?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because Rogan, he said two things.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Soros.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He didn't believe Soros is a good one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that was one of them.
		And then Joe also was like, it's really stupid what Alex is saying about Anthony Bourdain's suicide.
		Like, as Alex said.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You got to pull the lid on up heddhouling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was about to come out and say all this stuff.
		And Rogan was like, this is really fucking awful.
		But the thing I think is so fucking cowardly is that Rogan is now being like, I love this guy, but you need to calm down.
		It isn't calm down.
		Your rhetoric is terrible.
		Your rhetoric is irresponsible, and it's hurting lots of people.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But when Rogan gets together.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But no, what Rogan needs to do is he needs to come on his goddamn program and be like, I'm sorry.
		I love this guy.
		He's my friend.
		I'm sorry that I had him on my show.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And Milo.
		I think he's a bigger issue there.
		I think there's that thing of like, I'll give anybody fucking Ted Nugent on Medicaid.
		I know.
		It's like, I'll give anybody a platform to talk.
		And it's like, hey, we're going to have a conversation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If Joe Rogan is having Ted Nugent on his goddamn show, you should also have Courtney Love on the fucking show so she can talk about how Ted Nugent made her blow him when she was 12.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Allegedly.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, like, you can't, and you should have all of the clips of Ted Nugent saying the fucking N-word all over the place.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Telling Barack Obama to suck on his guns on stage.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Actual guns on stage.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		We never said anything like that.
		This is crazy.
		You're saying about Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All the fucking videos of Ted Nugent being like, I saw Nancy Pelosi.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I told her to suck on my machine gun.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		Bam, bam, bam, bam, damn.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now we're going into stranglehold.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There's this thing of being.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't do this.
		You can't be like, I'm an observer.
		I'm on the side.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, you're not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm just talking to interesting people.
		You are absolutely not.
		You have a fucking responsibility.
		Stick to Duncan Trussell.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		If you want to get crazy, Trussle or the Eddie Bravo.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Joey Diaz.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can let Eddie Shafira.
		You can let Eddie Bravo go, you know, I heard this guy say this.
		And you can go, ah, come on, Eddie.
		Don't listen to that shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		You keep your crazy in a box.
		You don't allow these horrible, horrible people to be exposed to, and not like his audience doesn't know who Ted Nugent is.
		But when you have a two-hour conversation with a person, it humanizes them and allows you to be the surrogate person there where it's like, if I love Joe Rogan and I don't know a whole lot about Ted Nugent and I hear them talking amicably for two and a half, three hours, I'm going to come away from it.
		Here's an example of it.
		When I used to listen to Loveline all the time, first of all, I thought Adam Corolla was cool.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There was a time where he was the funniest man in America.
unidentified		Absolutely.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So let's not lie about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He changed.
		But also, there'd be guests on there that I have no reason to like, but I liked.
		Like, John Mayer was a great guest.
		And for some reason, I liked John Mayer because he was on Loveline.
		It was cool.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Made Andy Dick seem just like a lovable, wacky guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		When he was a monster.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah, there are those, like, that is the effect you have when you are a charismatic, popular figure who interviews people for long periods of time.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, long, instead of just like a short, super-edited interview.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's dangerous.
		It's really, really dangerous to not respect and understand your responsibility that you have.
		And the fact that Joe Rogan was just like, I love Alex Jones.
		He's got to calm down.
		I think he's not dealing with the idea that I am a part of this now.
		I didn't have to be.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I've introduced millions of people to Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe not millions, but yeah, maybe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But those people probably already knew who he was.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But he's doing that thing of like, oh, silly old Alex over there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also at the same time, allowing Alex to, like, we went over that episode, and like he allowed Alex to sound like he knew what he was talking about in a way that he shouldn't have.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He should have pushed back on all this to expose that Alex, you're lying to people.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And because he loves him, he doesn't want to do it.
		And it's really, really fucking dangerous.
		Now, unfortunately, Rowdy Roddy Piper also loves Alex.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's a bummer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, in the next clip we have here, Rowdy Roddy Piper says something that I think Alex misunderstands.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		This is the kind of thing that needs to be exposed to America.
		They need to know.
		They're trying to put us to sleep.
		I'm a born rebel.
		I can't help myself.
		I think Sean might be too.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Rowdy, rowdy, Roddy Piper is a born rebel?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You got to be kidding.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		Fast guess.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		Fast guess at it, bud.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is smiling like the cat that just ate the canary.
		Like he is over the moon when he says that.
		I think that what Rowdy Roddy Piper meant is he's rebellious by nature.
		What Alex thinks he meant is that he thinks that the South was right in the Civil War.
		Because that's what Alex thinks when he talks about being a rebel.
		Oh, all that stuff.
		The rebel flag, all that sort of stuff.
		That is what Alex thinks is like, oh, shit.
		Rowdy Roddy Piper is a Civil War revisionist.
		Oh, this is exciting.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think Rowdy Roddy Piper is saying that.
		I think that's what Alex thinks.
		I think Piper is saying, like I said, I'm a rebel.
		Yeah, I'm rebellious.
		I buck against the system.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Alex hears.
		Yes.
		I'm a Confederacy.
		That the South will rise again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Meanwhile, fucking Piper is from Canada.
		Okay.
		So I don't think he has skin in the game.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that to me was a moment where I'm like, oh, no.
		Oh, no, Alex.
		I think you should have asked a follow-up question there.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I think Alex, I don't know.
		I don't know if I'm if I you're more onto Alex than I am, so I don't know about that one, but I do think Alex is a guy who I know this 100%.
		Okay, okay.
unidentified		For sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But I think Alex is a guy who can fit whatever you say into his narrative.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but his narrative in this case is that Piper believes that the South was right.
		That's because otherwise there would be no reason to be like, can you believe it?
		He's a born rebel?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because of course he is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anybody who knows anything about Piper knows that he didn't walk the beaten path in life.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That he was an iconoclast in many ways.
		The fact that he's surprised means that he thinks it means something other than that.
		And I know 100%.
		But in this case, it means he celebrates old Dixie.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm certain of it.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		So that was a misunderstanding, I think.
		But this next one definitely isn't.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		You know, every time we want to go to war, send your boy to war.
		My boy's already been there.
		And it becomes with the mind control trying to dumb down the society.
		Drugging society.
		Putting stuff.
		I mean, it is a major, major conspiracy for a new world order.
		It's no doubt about it.
		Excuse me.
		In my humble opinion.
		There's no doubt about it that the world is trying to evolve into something.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Rowdy, rowdy Rowdy Piper.
		I'm sorry I interrupted.
		What do you think they're trying to evolve it into?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So a couple things really quick.
		The idea that Piper is saying that the world is trying to become something is important.
		You need to hold on to that thought because he comes back to it later.
		But the most important thing here is Piper believes in the new world order.
		New New World Order.
		Second, that technique that Alex just displayed there is trademark Alex Jones.
		Whenever his guest says what he needs them to say, he cuts them off.
		Lest they say something that would be like, what I mean is he cuts them off and then reframes exactly the same question they were about to answer in order to cut off their thought and make it be like, oh, let's start a new thought.
		He does this all the fucking time.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		For sure that I agree with that for sure.
		I've heard him do that all the time.
		You're like, that's not.
		I've listened to you guys do it.
		You're like, wait, that's not what he said.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		no reason for him to have caught him off there.
		He was obvious.
		Piper was about to finish his thought.
		He wasn't going to break.
unidentified		It's not like he needs to be like, Rowdy, Rowdy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You know, he didn't have anything to say.
		He just had to cut him off.
		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who are you?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Larry King?
		There's a one of those YouTube channel had wrestling conspiracy theories or whatever.
		I was like, oh, I'll watch this.
		And one was that Ted Turner created the NWO as a distraction from the real NWO.
unidentified		Sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Also, Rowdy mentioned his son, Colton.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a couple kids.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Cabana one time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My Colton Cabana.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		My comedy partner, Colton Cabana, or Colt, which is what Piper calls his son.
		Piper texted Colt one time, like, I love you, and I'm so proud of you.
		And Colt's like, I wish he was saying that for real to me.
		But he just wrote him back, like, I think you got the wrong cult there, bud, but I hope you're doing fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anybody who's named can't think of a name that's really close to mom.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they're going to say your other comedy cohort, Don Friesen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sure.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've only gotten prank messages about that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But I do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Although I do hope Don Friesen's doing well.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I tell you what, I was on a website putting in some information for a booking thing, and they had his rate on there.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It looks like he's doing pretty good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's doing okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was really close to having him on the podcast.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's this close.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's doing all right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Our friend Jeff Sheen worked with him a couple times.
		He opened for him on some dates.
		And I was like, fucking tell him that there's another Friesen.
		We got to talk.
		And he was like, I'll do it.
		And I think Don Friesen might have emailed me.
		No, he sent me a Facebook message.
		Hey, there you go.
		I have communicated with Don Friesen.
		I completely forgot about that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But you are 100% right.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		The one I remember too is, man, what family member he had on the podcast one time?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Buckley, his cousin?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It was a who's one of the big families that he always rallies against.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the one with the Rothschild?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And he would be like, well, you know, yeah, we did that.
		And he goes, ah, yeah.
		There you go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a malicious interview technique.
unidentified		Sure.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's not.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You get what you need and you move on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hope whenever you're cutting them off, you have a clean enough.
unidentified		Rowdy Roddy Piper battles the NWO.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So most people don't catch on to it because if Alex was interviewing me and he did that, I would get furious.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, they're fucking asshole.
		At WrestleMania 5, Morton Downey Jr. kept interrupting Rowdy Roddy Piper.
		And Roddy had enough of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Didn't like that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And he said, don't blow no smoke in my face.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And then he got a fire extinguisher.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Piper does not do that to Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He instead ends up complimenting him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		Again, I respect you and what you're doing.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		And Sean, your opinions are much.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, but we want to know yours.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Don't be humble, sir.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		Okay, no, but you're much more educated on this than I am.
		And I don't want to.
		This is too serious.
		I don't want to.
		This is just my humble opinion.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		The world has to go someplace.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he keeps Roddy Piper's sort of theme seems to be that the world has to become something.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which I completely agree with.
		I completely agree with.
		And he's saying that there is sort of nefarious forces behind the scenes, and I would agree with that too, but I would reframe it sort of in terms of abuse of capitalism, deregulation of business, those sorts of things are the crushing union.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Something like something's boiling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There's something boiling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The negative forces, I think, we probably could have an argument about what they are.
		But we could agree with the concept that, yes, nothing is static.
		The world is constantly changing.
		And so here we get into sort of a picture of what he and Alex believe.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		I think that they want one governmental force to govern the world.
		It's just that everybody's got their own agenda.
		You can't get that done unless Gandhi's around.
		You can't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not sure what that means.
		I'm not entirely sure.
		I don't think Gandhi would have been able to create charismatic leader.
		But that would, I mean, Gandhi was around, but it didn't happen.
unidentified		Yeah.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		We can't get everybody on the same page.
		Another idea is if we all spoke the same language, it'd be kind of cool.
		Because communication is gone.
		And then we can't tell when they say obey.
		You know, we were mad at Russia for how long, but I've been there.
		And they're pretty nice people.
unidentified		They don't want to go with the Roddy Piper loves.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		Look at it.
		Russia didn't want to start a nuclear war.
		Pretty good people around the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And to Rowdy Roddy Piper's point, I agree.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The people are fine.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		The people are fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Their governments.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Papa.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		The Papa who's in charge over there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would assume that he's talking about going to Russia since 1999, maybe.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He might have gone before, although I think that would be anachronistic for his career and life.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would say that since then, Putin has been in power, and he's a bad dude.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I bet Putin watched some Hogan and Piper back in the day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He had to have.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Love's a strong man.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I loved it.
unidentified		Ooh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's an interesting question.
		Do you think that people in foreign countries, like, do you think people in Bulgaria really love Rusev?
		Like, do you think that the Russians back then actually liked Nikola Kozlov?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		What name did you think?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nikita Kozlov?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Nikita Kolov.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Kolov, whatever.
		I don't fucking remember that guy.
		Look, I don't like wrestling as much as you do.
		I know a bit of stuff, but I don't know everything.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I bet they didn't.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I know the Von Ericss were very popular in Israel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wait, but aren't they from Texas?
unidentified		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea why they were so popular in Israel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, we're not talking about that.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about the people, do they like the fake version?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even if Rusev is ethnically Bulgarian, I'm not entirely sure what his story is.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's the Bulgarian brute.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, but do they like the fake version?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, do people in Mexico like Alberto Del Rio when he was in WWE?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's from Mexico.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I understand that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I see what you're saying.
		If they like the fake version, if they hired me and they made me a Russian, would Russians be like, fuck yeah, dude.
		Yeah, I think so.
		Because I think it's that thing about being like, finally, I see me.
		I see me on that TV.
		Even though it wasn't me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But what is your bad?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, the character is bad.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't matter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, like, Irish people love Fit Finley?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		He's a legend in Ireland.
		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, some of them probably.
unidentified		Absolutely.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You don't think William Regal is well loved in England?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, that's the next one I was thinking of.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there's a thin line between the two.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I want to know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a line between characters.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I would want to know if Axel Rotten, who used to do a British character accent and everything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's more what I'm talking about.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		If people over there were like, eh, we liked what you were doing over there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do countries hang their hat on someone who is maybe an offensive portrayal of them just to see representation?
unidentified		Maybe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Maybe.
		Anyway, I don't know.
		It's interesting because Russia almost never.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's ask somebody in the Middle East what they thought of Italian Mohammed Hassan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's Italian?
unidentified		Yeah, I don't think he was actually Middle Eastern at all.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Mark Capani?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That was his name.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was like, anyone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would say, I don't think anyone liked that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's funny.
		Like somebody just being like, but you know?
		Or like, did people like when was the guy who played the Indian guy in that 80s movie about the robot Johnny 5?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, I know who you're talking about.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Far Battery's not included.
		What's that fucking movie?
		People hate this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Short circuit, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I was trying to Fisher Stevens, yeah.
		I was coming up with the character or the actor you were coming up with the movie, and you came up with both.
		Congratulations.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So it's like, do people go, well, at least we got an Indian guy fake or not on the screen?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, do you think that black people enjoyed that soul man?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would imagine that what we're getting to is, no, I bet they don't.
		Yeah.
		But so.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Do you think white women appreciated white chicks?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you think babies enjoyed Little Man?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I watched a very serious film critique of white chicks the other day on YouTube.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And this guy was like, at no point, he's a British guy.
unidentified		He's like, at no point do they look anything like the white women they were portraying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that had to be in the guy doing a bit.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was very serious.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It was awesome.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He was so serious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I trust that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's like, this is garbage.
		He's like, at least try to make them.
		He goes, at least the white women that they're supposed to look like, make the white women, through makeup, look more like these guys look.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See now, that's an interesting.
		That's an interesting idea yeah, for them to have done as a movie.
		But I don't believe that a serious music critic or a movie critic would do that kind of a review without most of it being an existential crisis about like, why am I doing this?
		Maybe why am I reviewing this movie?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I don't know his name, but he's this British people are pranking me.
		He has a British.
		He's a British guy with a lava lamp.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's great at movie reviews and it's like you need to spend less time on YouTube George, Something I'm.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm so into YouTube right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm in a YouTube subscribe to YouTube Red.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, you ain't gonna get it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're not that deep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But I'm in, man.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Every night I go to bed to YouTube.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're savable at this point.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Toy Galaxy is my favorite.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's the best.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I accidentally watched, I knew the names Rhett and Link.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I accidentally watched one of their shows.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		How are they, I mean, I guess it's just they put it out there.
		How are they this popular?
		I have no, there's certain people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, you know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You just nailed my review.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There are certain people, and it's not a jealous thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm not.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I wish them all the best in the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But there's certain people who I'm just like, how are you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What is happening?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I think John Mulaney is a great comic.
		How is he selling out the Chicago theater like five nights in a row?
		I don't understand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That one I understand much more than Rhett and Link.
		Like, I don't understand.
		I find that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There are some people on there.
		I'll be on some names on Twitter.
		I'll go to the news and I'll see what's trending or whatever.
		And they'll be like, you know, like, YouTuber, you know, Tabitha Smith had to shut down a convention that she was doing because 50,000 people showed up and they only thought 10 were going to show up.
		It's like, who are you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the children.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I want to complain more about Rhett and Link real quick.
		I was watching.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I get it that Mulaney's clean.
unidentified		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He wears a suit.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It looks very presented.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's very funny.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And he's very funny.
		I just don't know.
		I'm not saying he's not funny.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying, how is it like where more of your thought is like the Chicago theater is huge?
unidentified		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's more back to Rhett and Link.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd never seen any of their videos.
		I watched a couple of them and I found their personalities to be distasteful.
		Like not like I hated them, but I was just like, I don't understand why anybody would watch these boring.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I watched one where they drank a bunch of different types of sodas or something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I get that format.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You do?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Novelty beverage, Dan?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Novelty beverage enthusiast, Dan Friesen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Spice Report, Dan.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But I also don't get how it has 8 million viewers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That part, I mean, even make it 1 million.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because their personalities are not anything other than bland tableaus whereupon you can paint whatever you'd like to be there.
		Like, you can just imagine whatever character is there you want.
		All that stuff is fine.
		I get that.
		What I don't understand is they have a fucking laugh track or the people who are making that show, the people behind the scenes, are literally standing around while they're recording it and there's a gas leak in that fucking studio.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, is it like a talk soup thing where people are laughing while they're doing the shit?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so uncomfortable.
		I was watching one.
		I'm like, what the fuck are these laughs?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because people are saying, like, they're saying things that aren't really that funny, and they'll be like, ha, ha, ha, ha.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm convinced it's a laugh track.
unidentified		Oh, I love this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It makes me so uncomfortable.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's even like I haven't watched sitcom sitcoms in a long time.
		And I love old shows.
		There are a bunch of shows that I love.
		You go back and watch them and you're like, ooh.
		This feels weird.
		Why is everyone laughing?
		It's very strange.
		And Rhett and Link suck.
		That might hurt my possibilities of career advancement.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're not on YouTube.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Who are they?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
		Very weird.
		So in the last clip, before we got off the show.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I wish Toy Galaxy all the best, and he deserves all the followers in the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He looks fantastic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying there aren't good things on YouTube.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying that the ones that are super popular.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		His three-part history of G.I. Joe review is fantastic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Love it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll not be watching that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Get out of here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I bet it's good.
		So in the last clip, Piper was complaining about there's going to be a one-world government.
		He seemed to be saying that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		One language, one grub and one currency, you bet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He didn't even mention the currency part, but he's saying this in pretty like it's a negative way, which runs counter to this next clip.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		What do I believe is trying to happen?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Real quick, that is why I told you to hold on to the idea of the world is going to change into something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's presenting that as a bad thing.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, maybe a good thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but the way he's presenting it here is this is what's trying to happen.
		The positive version of it.
		Just what naturally the world is trying to change into.
unidentified		Okay.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		What do I believe is trying to happen?
		I believe that a lot of people with their own agendas are trying to come around and make one government to govern the entire world.
		And there's some things they're going to have to do.
		We all got to speak the same language, and we all got to be sincere about what's going on and not so greedy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, because you can have the Star Trek idea of a one-world government.
		Everybody's nice.
		The problem is the people running the global government are not nice people and they want control.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What?
		Alex is now...
		Alex is saying...
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I agree, but here's why that can't happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is saying, like, hey, it's cool if there is a one-world government in one version.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I feel like Alex is like, yeah, I totally think that would be cool, but, you know, then the people in charge might not be cool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But no matter who was trying to make that sort of centralized power structure, he would be like, they're bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're evil.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because that's a good way to make money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the idea that he's open to the idea of one world government, just not this one-world government.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What?
		That's so different than what he normally says.
		Yeah.
		That's ludicrous.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Absolute power corrupts, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then between those last two clips, we have Piper saying one-world government structure, universal language as a sort of negatively contextualized thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the first clip, and then in the second clip, he's saying that what needs to happen with the way the world is trying to grow, you need to have a one-world power structure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He did the Planet of the Apes 3 ending.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		But alas, maybe a one-world government is the way to go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So what are these people even saying?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		We just got to be chill, baby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What are they talking about?
		He's like, we need to be sincere about everything and less greedy.
		I agree with those things.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You're hearing a guy who's probably at 8 million concussions, who probably is just so out of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, you're right.
		You're right.
		And I'm not judging him too harshly, but I am judging Alex pretty harshly for having a celebrity on his show and then being like, oh, there's a good version of the one-world order.
		Yeah.
unidentified		What?
unidentified		Well, I mean, if it's the good one, sure, but we know that ain't going to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, what's the good one, Alex?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Where I'm in charge.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's white.
		Where I'm a colonel.
		So, I mean, that's just like there's a lot of examples over the years that I've been able to find of him just like completely invalidating his own principles.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Do you think?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which I find delightful.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Do you think when this is so funny that all these guys keep getting fired or resigning or whatever?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Who was the Breitbart guy that was working for Trump?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Bannon?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Bannon.
		Do you think when Bannon got fired, if it would have been a fun prank of somebody who sounds just like Trump to call Alex and be like, look, Bannon's out.
		I need you to take that job over.
		If Alex would have thought in his heart this is legit, there's no way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He would have done a special report immediately.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Like, there's no way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if you could get Anthony Atamanik to call in and do that, that would be amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it would be so easy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have to give me a little time to shut things down here, but I can be there, Mr. President.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Owen Shroyer is ready to take over.
		He's doing great.
		He's a good kid.
		He's dumb as the day is long, but he's a good kid.
		David Knight will keep him in order.
		Yeah, I think you could.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'll get him on Rogan's podcast.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Everyone will like him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think if you could dummy the sending number, make it look like it's coming from D.C. Washington, D.C. You don't have to watch it.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It could be Washington State.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Washington, Seattle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		You get a decent sound-alike.
		Yeah.
		And you'd need someone to do a Steve Pieczenik impression, though, because you'd need some backup.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, before I put you on with the president, I'm just going to give you a little heads up.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I think.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think Alex knows what Jared Kushner or Steve Miller sound like.
		So you could have someone doing an impression of either of them.
		It could sound like you or I.
		It wouldn't really matter.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Steve Pieczenik.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		No, you couldn't.
		No, you can't do it.
		Because Alex and Steve are friends.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Alex, it's me, Jared Kushner.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to put you on with my father-in-law in a minute.
unidentified		I don't want to spoil anything, but I think Bannon's job is yours for the taking.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Hopefully, that's something you might want to do.
unidentified		And I'm going to pitch over to you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It turns out my father-in-law really likes having chief strategists that are media propaganda.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's the way to do it.
		Dad has always been impressed with you.
		Dad's always been a fan of yours.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, Daddy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Daddy has always been a fan of yours.
		Daddy's always thought you were one of the smartest guys out there.
		And Alex is like, oh my God, this is happening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He loves how you're trying to rehabilitate the career of Milo Yiannopoulos.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Loves that you love white people so much.
		I mean, that would be really fun to see just what would happen because InfoWars is super gullible.
		They've fallen for so many things.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Willing to shave, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so we're doing this now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he didn't have a beard on that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, back then, it would have been funnier.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it would have been funnier even if you would have been like, are you willing to grow a beard?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I've been debating, growing a beard for a while.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And honestly, that might be what's wrong on.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		One of those guys on Rhett and Link have a nice beard, and I'm into it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I only know that that's Rhett because I singularly hated Link.
		I think he has zero personality, and I want to push him in a locker.
		Very few people trigger my beliefs.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I love how bad you are about these two ding-dongs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not really, but I just.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad I know who they are and have also wondered how they're.
		I think I did research.
		I was like, I think I googled, like, why are they so popular or whatever?
		And they just like.
		It's one of those because we were in on the ground floor and did it every day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I guess.
		I mean, there's stuff like Hot Ones that I think is really great.
		They get 2 million views on a lot of their videos.
		I understand why people watch this.
		And there's other things, too, that have a ton of views that are not for me that I don't enjoy, but I get it.
		People like Rhett and Link.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm just like, there's also lots of boring people out there who like boring shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Holy shit.
		Yeah, sometimes things are a little bit too out there for you.
		Maybe you don't want to hear about lizard people.
unidentified		Look, I'm not for everybody, but the people I am for enjoy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		So in this next clip, man.
		So at this point, Piper has just been stupid in the sense that he respects Alex.
		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I will say this about Piper.
		And I remember one time I was so excited because either he was going to have Vince Russo on his podcast or Vince Russo was going to have him on.
		And Piper for a long time had been saying, you're a cancer in the wrestling business.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Because of you, Owen Hart died.
		All this stuff.
		Like, just some heavy-duty shit.
		And Piper goes, you know what?
unidentified		I thought about it.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You're a daddy.
		You're trying to provide for your children.
		You could call him a daddy.
		You're just trying to provide for your children.
		And I got no beef with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're going to squash it.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And I was like, nah, that's it.
		It was this day.
		They built it up and everything.
		And then it was like, you're a daddy.
		It's like, god damn it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At the same time, it's kind of adult.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Not what I'm looking for.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		No.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Out of my wrestling podcast.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		By two hucksters.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So at this point, the only thing that's really stupid is that he respects Alex.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Unfortunately, in this next clip, he's going to say something that is much stupider.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		It all starts with the kids.
		And as you get older and a little wiser, you're harder to fool.
		But you put up another pop idol for the kids.
		Put up another piece of music that maybe isn't temper.
		It was nothing but vulgarity for the kids.
		You know, bang it into them.
		I can remember I think you know the Brunswick Affair probably, Alan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And for those who don't know about the Brunswick Affair, very quickly, about, I think, in the early 60s, they had a TV called The Brunswick.
		And the people that bought it, dad would go to work, mom would be there, and dad would come back home, and all of a sudden she bought 20 pounds of dog food, but they don't have a dog.
		And they found out that there was a little button in a TV called The Brunswick.
		And when the commercials came on, they did something that shot out these waves and made you buy.
		That's in the early 60s.
		Can you imagine how sophisticated they are now?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Holy shit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What do you think about that?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I think The Hot Rod is a bit of a conspiracy theorist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what the Brunswick Affair is?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I do not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a television show that was like the Twilight Zone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This episode, The Brunswick Affair is a mockumentary type style TV program that came out that talked about TV sets that were put out in the 60s.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is not true.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So he's talking about this mockumentary as if it were real?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like a Twilight Zone episode being real or a Black Mirror now.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's based on reality.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sure.
		I mean, it's interesting ideas, certainly.
		And it's obviously mirroring something that people are.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there have been reports of subliminal messages and stuff in the media.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Advertising is rife with unethical practices.
		But specifically, what he's talking about is something that is absolutely fake.
		And it's nonsense because the dates don't match up.
		In order to avoid getting sued, they changed the name from the Brunswick Radio and TV company to just the Brunswick Company.
		I think they should have gotten sued anyway, but somehow avoided it.
		Maybe creative license.
		I don't know.
		But that's actually a really famous example of something that is absolutely fake.
		And Roddy Roddy Piper is like, can you imagine what they can do now if they did that then?
		They didn't have a Brunswick button.
		What the fuck are you talking about?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		What was he saying about pop stars and stuff?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's saying that that's how they distract the kids.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These new pop stars come out and say dirty things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which I'm like, hey, dude, what did you do for a living?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		For professional wrestling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's an element of it where it's like.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But I think Roddy is a guy who probably saw some pop star Illuminati videos.
		You know what I mean?
		I think he's a guy who...
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		People with one eye cover.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, devil horns.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And this is that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's funny, too, where maybe he goes to vigilantcitizen.com.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Guys who were so wild back in the day are now like, you know, they've got these pop stars out there telling kids it's all right to have premarital sex.
		It's like, oh, yeah, like the thing you did forever?
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, with minors.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe not Rowdy Roddy Piper, but never.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Never the hot rod.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Hot rod always checked IDs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a mess.
		So in this next clip, Alex and Roddy talk about like, they've gotten into a bit of a conversation where they're like, but nothing's really been said yet.
		What do you mean?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		With this interview.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, so they're both kind of not on the same page.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I've cut out almost all of Alex just being like, oh, my God, Day Live is so amazing.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Like fanboys about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And then there are some things that have been said.
		Like, we didn't know.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But I think it's a good idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We didn't know Rowdy Roddy Piper was a fucking info warrior.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's one thing that was said.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I did not know that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		What did Roddy Piper's a big influence on Ronda Rousey?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		What did she say that was a little off?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, she got some heat because she didn't want to fight that transpare fighter, I believe.
		Cyborg.
		Yeah, and she said that she wasn't.
		I don't remember the exact quotes, and I don't want to get this wrong.
		But from my understanding, there was some denial of her identity to some extent.
		Other thing is, she's like an anti-vaxxer and maybe a Sandy Hook truther.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But besides that, she's a fantastic professional wrestler, and she's really doing great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure if she walked some of that back, though.
		I think that some of the Sandy Hook stuff she's walked back.
		She seems like she's very dumb.
		Like, unfortunately, because I think Enzo and Big Cass, both big Trumpers, have been shown the door.
		Well, for other reasons.
unidentified		For other reasons, but they've been shown the door.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, with Big Cass, it was the nipples.
		That was the issue with him, right?
		Because I understand.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It was funny because I was looking at our previous text, and I was like, why do you have this picture of Big Cass with these giant fake titties?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I love that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For those of you out there who don't have access to our text chain, I texted Marty on his birthday to tell him that for his birthday, I got Big Cass fired.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And I sent him a photo of Big Cass with this giant nipples.
		This guy on Twitter would always do Big Cass with these gigantic nipples and plump breasts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very gross, which is why I didn't respond.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But anyway.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
		It's very weird.
		I don't think necessarily.
		I don't know all of Rousey's issues.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		This is kind of like the new, for me, this is kind of like when you hear like an actor or a musician you like as a Scientologist, you're kind of like, oh, man.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I had that with Jason Lee when I was like 19 or something.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's out, baby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's out of the church?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's good to know.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He lives in Texas now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's cool.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Lives on a farm.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He changes kids' name.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Does his thing.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what was his kid's name.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Pilot Inspector.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
		Hey, you know what?
		I get the Scientology channel.
		We get Direct TV.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a channel?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		We get Direct TV.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You would think that they wouldn't want to allow that on the Direct TV.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They're in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They probably pay him big money for it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Direct TV has a tremendous amount of infomercials.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they're like brokered programmes.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, get us limb waste in 30 days.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, because to a certain extent, probably because how they work, they almost have infinite channels that they could broadcast on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So why not fill it up with tons of stuff?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And we get it for free because we signed up for an internet or something.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not going to be free later.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But we get direct TV.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Six months from now, you're going to get fleeced with a huge bill.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's the only way I can watch live PD.
		That's on the police department.
		I watch live PD so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What does that mean?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There's a show on Amy called Live PD.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Police Department?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		24.
		They're live on the scene.
		It's cops, but live.
unidentified		No.
		Yeah.
		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's fucking crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I got to come over.
unidentified		You've never heard of live PD?
unidentified		No.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's like, that is.
unidentified		Dan.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Marty, that's the evolution of weirdos sitting around listening to police sticks.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I knew a bunch of those guys when I was my first house that I lived in.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I had it.
		I had it.
		I didn't have one, but I remember what my friend did, a police scanner.
		I remember listening, just being like, this is amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My neighbor in my first house, Dean and Ed, these two old guys.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of them was a Vietnam vet, and the other had stolen valor all day long.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Which I'm also watching on YouTube.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I would go over to their house, and Dean lost his arm.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Left it in NAM?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, he made me think that for a really long time.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Turns out he left it at the factory.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, he would always talk about how bad it was in NAM, and I believe it absolutely was.
		But he never told me how he lost his arm until like six months into us hanging out.
		And it turns out it was after he got back stateside.
		He had a DUI.
		He crashed his car and lost his arm.
		The whole time I thought he had lost it in NAM.
		But who cares?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So you got a purple heart.
		That's that one guy would say to him.
		You got a purple heart, then you lost a limb.
		What do you got?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other guy, the stolen valor guy, he couldn't talk barely.
		Ed was a disaster.
		So I would go over to their house, and it was a thing where at the time I was selling weed in my early days in college.
unidentified		Hell yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so I had tons of weed, and just like a lot of the time, my friends were in school or at jobs, and I didn't have anyone to hang out with.
		And Dean and Ed were over there hanging out.
		And Dean would be like, hey, you want to, if you bring over some weed, all right, Dean.
		I got you.
		So I'd bring over weed.
		He'd roll up some blunts.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we'd sit around and smoke weed and tell me about Nom.
		And also, he always would be intently listening to the police scanner.
		And I fucking enjoyed the shit out of it.
		Although it was Columbia, Missouri, where there were no crimes happening.
unidentified		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it was a boring-ass police scanner.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to think if they're in Missouri.
		They might be in Missouri.
		They're all over the place.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But watching it live.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		They have eight police departments throughout the country and they check in.
		They're like, let's go back to that man who was pulled over for it's all black people too.
		Sometimes you feel bad for it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Although, but that's what it's based on who the police departments are targeting.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		We were watching the other night and we're like, they clearly are like, we got to get some white people on here.
		It was crazy white people night.
		It was so fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is it 24 hours?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So what happened?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that sucks.
		But if it was, here's what you do.
		If it was, I would get direct TV.
		Here's what you do.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		First of all, we need to find you somebody who has a sling membership.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Sling TV.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, dude, I actually auditioned for a voiceover commercial for Sling TV.
		I was like, why do I know that name?
		Oh, it's because I did a bunch of takes.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Here's what you need to do.
		Sling TV.
		With Direct TV, I put live PD on the DVR.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There's a live PD rewind and a live PD, another one.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And he is going so in on this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I honestly feel like this live PD has the potential to overcome baggage as like the best thing on television.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Sarah and I watch it so much.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So Friday and Saturday night.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what needs to happen?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I need to come over and watch it with you.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Dude, for sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I would love you to come over and watch it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I haven't seen your new place yet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now this is just turning us to hang.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's so good.
		Apparently, people don't have their IDs on them.
		They just don't have IDs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, of course.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And they're always like, well, now I'm going to search you because you don't have your ID on you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that becomes probable cause.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Or they're like, well, who are you?
		Let me get your name.
		And a lot of times it's this one.
		Like, pretend you're the cop and I'll be like the criminal guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can I see your ID?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I don't have it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Where is it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is it at your house?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, what's your name?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That took you a while.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Marty?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
		That took you a little bit too long.
		A little suspicious.
unidentified		I didn't hear you.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's Marty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's your last name?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Why do you need my last name?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand why you need my last name.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is Marty your Christian name?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Or the guy goes, when's your birthday?
		And this guy goes, when's your birthday?
		And he's like, 9,755.
		And he's like, how old would that make you?
		And the guy's like, shit.
		And they always do the, hey, man, you be honest with me.
		It goes a long way.
		You got anything in the car?
		And they're like, no.
		And there's always grenade launcher, guns in the car.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, it's interesting because it's live.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not live, right?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, some of it's pre-recorded, but a lot of it's live.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Live-ish.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's live to tape or whatever, but it's not like the show is happening live.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's live.
unidentified		It can't be.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Man, it's live.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it would have to be so boring for most of it.
unidentified		No.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They know how to jump around and stuff.
		And some of it is boring.
		That's why you watch the rewind.
		That's when it really packs it in.
		There was this guy who was evading the cops in a pickup truck.
		This guy was such a good driver.
		It was like Dukes of Hazard.
		Like, this fucking guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They have the cops mic'd up and they're like, look at him, drive.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They had a canine cop, and the dog was just like, the dog wants, oh, these dogs, too.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		These dogs are the real stars of the show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		This dog wanted to bite this guy so bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like the cop version of the puppy bowl.
unidentified		Yep.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And the guy, passengers got his hands out the window the whole time.
		Like, I'm not done with this.
		I'm not down with this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just got in the wrong car.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I always told Sarah, I told Sarah, I go, if we're ever in this situation, just say that I forced you to just put your hands out the car window.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll add another charge to the car.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'll take all the kidnapping.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's um, and this guy was just like, dude, any because the cops do that one bump move where they get you in the back bumper and you flip around.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The J-turn.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Couldn't do it.
		They couldn't bump this guy.
		And then they threw the tracks out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He knew that was coming.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was evading it.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They threw the tracks out and he just fucking turned on the wrong amazing.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It was so good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		God damn it.
unidentified		I really love that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, live PD, dude.
		If you guys are part of Live PD Nation, give me a hell yeah.
		They call the fans Live PD Nation.
		And I notice a lot of people on Twitter that I follow and follow me.
		Everyone's tweeting about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, this is like this interesting thing that I'm experiencing now as someone who's just completely out of it.
		There are shows like that that are like, that is exactly what I want to watch.
		I had no idea it existed until now.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It does wait for you, baby.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There are times where I feel bad because it's all mostly poor and mostly minority.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, it's the same thing as cops ever was.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will say that there's sort of a kind of a gross voyeurism.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just being exploited by us by enjoying those shows.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And a protected.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I think it's the same way that almost all of those shows are.
		Like My Strange Addiction or Hoarders.
		Yeah, any of those shows you watch, and it's like this train wreck of it.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Sarah and I watched hoarders for a little bit and we're like, this is kind of wild to watch.
		And then it just got sad and we're like, we can't watch it anymore.
		And then the other day I go, well, let's just watch it just for a second, see if we see anything on here that's interesting.
		And then they just lifted up a couch and pulled out a dead cat that was like that was as hard as a book.
		And they're like, hey, we got a dead cat.
		And we're like, we're turning it to the side.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the difference with those is like the horror is like this, this like, how do people live in this sort of world?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then with the cops stuff, it's the horror is the presumably the protagonists of the show.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like the cops are the characters of the show, and they're the bad ones.
		So you're watching it and you're like, oh my God, you're seeing all these people get arrested.
		Well, live PD really fucked up situations and often.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Live PD is usually pretty good PR for cops.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It shines them in a pretty positive light.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, with editing.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But every once in a while, every once in a while, you're like, well, what?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		This one, I'm still baffled.
unidentified		But there's so many people who are like, pull this guy over.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They pull this guy over.
		They're in a border town.
		So, like, from Indiana to Illinois or something like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, not like Mexican border.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So, although they have that on there, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When you say Porter Town, I think of Juarez.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, So, because I grew up in Indiana, and in Indiana, you only had to have a back license plate.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Illinois, you got to have a front hand back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They pulled this guy over, hypothetically, in Illinois, and he had an Indiana plate.
		And he's like, why'd you pull me over?
		He goes, you didn't have a front plate.
		And he's like, I live in Indiana.
		I don't have to have a front plate.
		And he goes, in Illinois, you need a front plate.
		And he searched him and found a bunch of drugs.
		And I was like, whoa, that didn't seem fair.
		But I just saw in the news in Minnesota, they busted these guys with like hundreds of pounds of weed.
		But the judge threw it out because they pulled him over under illegal sales.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I bet he didn't get the pot back.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what's bullshit about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You should still have that pot.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And then he wild.
		They're like, listen, we're going to give back to you.
		We're going to turn around.
		You got 10 minutes to get out of here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that's exactly what they should do.
		We pulled you over under false pretenses.
		But we have to create exactly the scenario you were in before we stopped you.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I love a good, fun bust on live PD, like when they bust a guy with a prostitute, and the guy's like, that's my wife.
		And they separate them.
		How's that good?
		And they go, because it's like harmless.
		You know what I mean?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No one's getting harmed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everyone's getting harmed.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And he goes, what's her name?
		And he goes, I don't know.
		He goes, that's your wife.
		I thought you said.
		I don't know.
		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Shotgun wedding.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I was wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I feel like there's a lot of harm there.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You're just not going to be able to do that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Not no harm, but you know what I mean.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's good, clean fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Good, clean fun.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Everyone's having fun.
		Yeah, live PD.
		I'm so happy you're going to get on the live PD.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to set a date.
		I'm coming over to watch.
		Because I haven't seen Sarah in a while.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Here's what you do.
		Come over on a Saturday.
		That way, Friday is recorded.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		We'll let Saturday get recorded.
		We'll watch Friday a lot.
		We'll watch Friday's episode.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What are you doing next week?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		It's tough.
		That's why I love it because I always have the stuff recorded.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Cancel your gigs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm coming over on Saturday.
unidentified		You know what?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Let's do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'll deputize you.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'll make you a member of Live TD Nation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Sounds good.
		And then our next episode will just be a thorough review.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So you're in.
		I thought you would be like, how could you watch this?
		It's terrible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I hate the police and all that.
		I think systematically they're a problem.
		But the idea of watching it live does trigger that.
		Like I said, the same thing about listening to the police scanners when you're younger.
		That sort of thing is very riveting.
		But the only thing that I'm against is the sort of excitement and fetishizing the cops doing things.
		Do you know what I mean?
		I think entertainment value is fine in that, but the idea of get them.
		Like that sort of thing, that impulse, because I think some people have that.
		I think some people watch cop shows and they're like, take them down.
		And I think that's gross.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Like, remember one time I was watching an old-ass cops.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		This was like one of the first, probably like four or five years cops was in its existence.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They didn't have the formula down for a while.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And one time they just parked a semi in a clearly black neighborhood, a poor black neighborhood.
		They parked a giant semi and they left it unlocked and the driver was like, oh, it's not working.
		I'm going to walk away.
		And then people would open the doors and be like, oh, shit, there's like VCRs and TVs.
		And then they would grab them, and then the cops were in the back of the semi.
		They would come out and arrest people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, that's and those charges would never stick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, they're just doing that to humiliate people.
unidentified		That's fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They would never fly in court.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But I also like a guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also, let me say this.
		If I were in that neighborhood, I probably wouldn't steal a VCR.
		But if I saw a semi with the thing open, there's no fucking way I wouldn't look inside there.
unidentified		I know.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There's no way.
		I do like on live PD where sometimes you realize stuff you can get away with and like stuff that's not a good, like they're just like, look, if sometimes someone's walking down the street and they're just being real weird, they're like, there's no crime against being weird.
		Or if they're in their house, like one time this guy, they just sort of like, my husband's just real drunk.
		Can you please just come by?
		And they're like, has he put his hands on you?
		And they're like, no, he's just really drunk.
		And this one guy was just like, what are you doing in my house?
		And they're just like, look, man, you got to just go to bed.
		And it's like so fun.
		Sometimes a cop's job is just to go to a house and be like, Dan, go to bed.
		And he goes, what time do you get to work tomorrow?
		The guy goes, 7:30 in the morning.
		And he goes, you're never going to make it.
		And he goes, I guarantee I make it to work.
		I guarantee it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, I'd love to watch it.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I know.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's so fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But not because that guy who's drunk is a shithead.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But because that scenario is hilarious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's adorable.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's adorable.
		Where they're like, you've got to go to bed.
		And he goes, I ain't going to bed.
		You go to bed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Your job is to try and give good advice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Or one lady had smoked meth, and she had swore her boyfriend was under the floor.
		Her ex, who cheated on her was under the floor.
		And the cops goes, yeah, this happens a lot with these people in the meth.
		They think people are in the floorboards or in the walls.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very common delusion.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I got it.
		And then at one point, an angel just showed up and she just goes, all right.
		And she just got in the ambulance and they took off.
		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, cool.
		They got saline drips in there.
		Now, the only thing I would say, and I think this is an important point to make, is that most of these people who are having these drunk, delightful experiences with the cops are white.
		And the people who.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, not always.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I imagine a lot of people.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Charismatic black guy can go a long way on live PD.
		A charismatic black guy, and they're just like, this guy's a treasure.
		Look at this guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would say that the number of times black people get jailed up and killed by the police.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not going to be on Live PD.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You do see a lot of – see, here's the thing with Live PD, and I'm not defending cops shooting people who should not be shot for any reason.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But you do sometimes from watching Live PD, you see some of the stress and the pressure of that job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, dude, I'm serious.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Some people are doing some real shady shit, and they're just like, yo, man, what are you doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I understand that, but there's no way you don't think that's what you're signing up for as a copy of the ship with a plum, then don't fucking do it.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But I'm not saying that.
		I'm just saying there are times where you see people and you're like, and they'll say to them, they're like, look, man, if I was a different cop, you might have gotten shot here.
		Like, I know what I'm doing.
		I've been doing this for 20 years.
		I know what to do.
		But shit, man.
		Like, dude, I almost had to shoot you.
unidentified		One guy just came running at them going, shoot me, shoot me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In that case, you probably should shoot him.
unidentified		And they shot him with a taser, but they're like, dude, you can't do that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Like, what are you doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I love the idea of a post-game after that, just sitting with him.
unidentified		I love it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, man, look, I saw you running at me saying, shoot me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just want to tell you, you can't do that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Someone will shoot you.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I love afterwards when they talk and they're like, look, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's like that moment with on Dog Bounty Hunter all the time after he'd catch him and sitting down with him talking like a new cigarette.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, hey, man, be cool.
		Everything's all right.
		We got you.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There's some cops.
		There are some cops where I'll tell Sarah because after a while, you start to recognize the cops because they follow the same ones over and over again.
		And there's some.
		I'm like, oh, this guy's so good at talking to people afterwards.
		He's like, man, what were you doing?
		There's this black guy who's such a good cop.
		He's like, what were you doing?
		And like, I don't know.
		And he's like, did you think you were going to get away?
		And they're like, yeah, I thought I was going to get away.
		He's like, once I hop that fence, I thought I'd be out of here.
		But I didn't know you had a dog.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Those cops are the ones who are trying to transition into a secondary career.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Steve Welco or whatever the Jerry Springer guy was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trying to get their own show.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He goes, oh, man.
		I didn't know you had a dog.
		I would have outran you guys, but the dog.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we're so far off.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Back to Rowdy Roddy Piper.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it's interesting, actually, that we've been talking about this cop show for as long as we've been doing it.
		Live PD.
		Because in this next clip, Alex, after, like I said, long while he's back, Alex and Piper have been having a conversation about like, why does everybody else not see through this stuff, but we do?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Why are we the only ones with glasses?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Rowdy Roddy Piper.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex suggests that it's something that might show up on live PD possibly.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They've taken mushrooms.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I think you just answered my question there that I said at the beginning of the break.
		And I was going to reintroduce.
		What makes those of us that are immune or resistant to the programming?
		And I think it's that we grew up as individuals and we grew up and had a brush with the streets.
		I grew up in a middle-class area, but for whatever reason, there was a lot of fights, a lot of corrupt police, government drug dealing, a lot of police running hookers, you name it.
		And I grew up, you know, watching this going on in my neighborhood and then watching the same cops give speeches against drug use at school and I called them out and they threatened to kill me and stuff.
		But I think that was kind of my wake-up was I put the sunglasses on because I saw the other side and saw how naive everybody is.
		And I think you said it best.
		They want to get the youth, dumb them down, make it all a bunch of political correctness to where the kids don't even know how to make a sandwich.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bullshit.
		Kids know how to make sandwiches.
		All right.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		A cop pulled Alex.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		A cop busted Alex and his friends one time and emasculated Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, he's even talked about the time that a Nazi cop pulled him over and let him go because he was white.
		Like, he talked about that.
		He started a clip one time talking about, like, I've never seen white racism, and then went into a story about, like, how him and his buddies were underage with beer in the car driving back from, like, a party at the beach.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, that was Texas.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It was a different time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then this cop pulls him over with a Nazi tattoo on his arm and sees that they're white and he's like, you kids have a good night.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And, like, Alex, you just described very clear white racism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just because it didn't hurt a lot.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Is he anti-cop again?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he's anti-cop back then.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's talking about this corruption that he experienced.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I called him out and they threatened to kill me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe any of that stuff.
		Again, Rockwall, Texas.
		3,100 people.
unidentified		Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't think they had that kind of organization.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Wasn't his dad in the CIA or something?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that's all bullshit.
		I did a bunch of research into his dad recently.
		There's no evidence that his dad was ever involved in any CIA, FBI, anything like that.
		He's been a dentist since 1980 something or other.
		No, longer than that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's where they put the chips in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He claims that he was a dentist to some CIA agents.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's sort of the closest you can get to anything substantial.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		When the parents turn on these guys, that's when you know.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's like, oh, man, there was this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His dad is his HR rep. Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His dad runs the human resources.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you did the research that his dad wasn't what he said.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, his dad runs human resources at Infowars.
		We know that because two employees have sued him for EEOC complaints, and his dad had to go on record as the person who runs the human resources department.
		And he said, hey, look, it's a locker room here.
		It's a yeasty environment.
		Oh, fuck you.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Locker room talk, baby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, man, sometimes we.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Lock her up room talk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes Rob Dew says the N-word.
unidentified		Who knows?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's just Rob being Rob, baby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Rob.
		I just think I don't believe any of this.
		And I don't believe any of the stuff about his dad being in the CIA.
		That's just stuff that the internet keeps repeating because they want to create this narrative that Alex Jones works for Mossad or Israel or the government or something like that.
		When in reality, it's much simpler.
		He's a two-bit con man who's also a white supremacist.
		That explains his entire career.
		You don't need the intelligence agency.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Who's being used by the president, but Russia also probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that connection is much looser.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that they.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		What does Roger Stone?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		What do you think Roger Stone thinks of Alex?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he thinks he's very stupid.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's like, this guy's doing all right for himself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, totally.
		I think that when they met, they met in 2013.
		I think they met at a, well, I know they met at a JFK convention.
		And I think that Roger Stone probably immediately recognized a very competent person in Alex.
		He's very talented.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also that he's stupid and compromisable.
		And I think that as the days wore on and Roger left Trump's campaign in order to do propaganda outside of it, I think he realized Alex is a perfect tool for that and went to work on him and realized it would be very easy to compromise him.
		And who knows if it was money or just being like, hey, Trump's a white nationalist too.
		He will further the goals that you want.
		It's very clear that's what you're about.
unidentified		Do you think that Stone's a white nationalist?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that he doesn't have principles.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I think that he's an anarchist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he's a chaos agent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To the very definition.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Nihilist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a nihilist.
		I think based on the people he buddies up with, I don't think that I think it would be impossible to do that without being sympathetic to white nationalism and white supremacy.
		But I don't know from There's such a trend of like, it seems like he's fucking around that, like, I feel like he just, like, and I'm certain he's cut a deal, too.
		We've talked about this a bit.
		I'm pretty sure he's cut a deal.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		What's he been saying lately?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I haven't been listening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he's just doing the same stuff.
		Lustery nonsense.
		But, like, the way the walls are closing in and the way that he has to keep admitting, like, well, yes, of course, I did talk to that guy.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, that sort of stuff.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I never said I didn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a feeling of invulnerability that he has that I don't get from a lot of other people.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I got a sense, especially from watching that documentary with him, where he's just like, Well, the Republicans didn't want me, and fuck the Democrats, so fuck everybody.
		I'm going to fuck all this shit up.
		That's what I get from him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Chaos.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Chaos, baby.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's an agent of chaos.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he has any hard and fast alliances to nationalism, to Russia, to anything.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I think he's got an allegiance to freaky.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he's absolutely.
		And also, he's in the same boat as Alex.
		He's very competent.
		As much as it pains anyone.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, he's awesome at what he does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyone in our boat hates to admit that sort of thing, but Alex is an approach to him.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They need to study.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I keep saying they need to study this guy.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's really good at propaganda.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure when he finally goes full against Trump and what do you want to know?
		He's going to be like the guy in Catch Me If You Can, where they'll be like, now he teaches Lucky Luciano.
		Now he teaches people how to find the people who are running all the scams.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whoever was the first mafioso to flip or whatever, he's the guy who's like, this is what's really going on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it'll ever come to that because I don't think you need that kind of information.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Do you think he's going to go to prison?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
		I think he's cut a deal.
		I'm almost certain he's cut a deal.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Part of the deal is probably that I can't, I'm going to cut this deal, but part of the deal is no one can know I cut this deal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to disappear to Argentina.
		I'm going to be doing a podcast from someone keeps pointing out, not just someone.
		It keeps getting pointed out that whenever shit gets really hot, Roger ends up showing up on InfoWars in studio.
		It's like, might want to be close to the border.
		To slip away.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He seems like the kind of guy in a movie who's wearing a white suit with a white fedora and he just disappears into a crowd.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Into a crowd.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Like the end of that Silence of the Lamb sequel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't be like.
		He was known as a fucking shithead pot stirrer 30 years ago.
		You can't survive this long without being like having exit strategies, without having an idea of what's going to happen.
		He's never been this much of a marquee player in the things that are happening politically.
		And I don't think that he wouldn't have an exit strategy in that problem.
		Or have enough snitch.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Or he's got enough dirt on people.
		I'm sure he's like, hey, man, looks like I'm going to go down for some of this stuff.
		So you, politician, are probably going to have to put in a word, good word for me.
		Otherwise, I'd hate to let people know that me and my wife fucked you and your wife or something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So at this point, they go to calls.
		We got Piper.
		We've got Alex Jones.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Roddy, big fan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've got Sean Stone, who's been silent most of this time, just sitting there in the camera with Roddy Piper, just being like, hey, I'm friends with this guy.
		And so they take calls.
		And this first call is interesting because they, like I said, I cut out most of the times that Alex is just geeking out about They Live.
		But they are talking in this call about they, the they of they live.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this caller kind of gets where Alex is coming from.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Smells what Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Want to take some phone calls.
		Rowdy, you ready to take some calls?
		You betcha.
		All right.
		Let's go to Will in Georgia.
		You're on the air.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, really quick, I want to just be clear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex keeps calling him rowdy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Rowdy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As if rowdy is his first name.
		Like, rowdy, let's do this.
		It's very much like, come on, man.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		With the legendary star of They Live.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Thanks, Alex.
		That's a great movie, Rowdy.
		You did a good job.
		It's a true ministry.
		On the late, they live.
		I actually married into the They part of They Live that controls the New York LA Sonoma Gamora access, Hollywood, Babylon.
		And they taught my kids every morning on Saturday during worship services that everybody wasn't part of their tribe was subhuman animals, cattle, just like it said in the movie.
		And they actually put that, I mean, the preacher, the rabbi, would tell them that your job growing up from birth, they told them this is to cheat, lie, to rob, enslave, and kill all the Gentiles.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, Melissa, do you have a specific question, sir?
unidentified		Well, no, I mean, it's just, we're, we're Whigs.
unidentified		America is, our focus has to be on the Creator, who's named the sovereign of the United States, the creator of the universe.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, Melissa, I appreciate your call.
		We've got questions or comments for our guest.
		We don't screen calls.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, that is just a guy who's regurgitating the protocols of the elders of Zion and pretending that his children were taught that in some sort of synagogue or Sunday school because he's like, I married one of them and they are the Jews.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is the for Alex to pretend like this isn't exactly what someone listening to my show would be.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		This is like that clip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's ludicrous.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Do you ever see that clip of Alex?
		I think they played it on the on Sam Cedar show.
		It was Alex was at a bar during the beer.
		That was great.
		And that guy was like, I own Infowars Records.
		I want to make rap.
		I want to do like rap.
		And he goes, hey, aha, cool.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Alex fucking pounding.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let me buy your drink.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Alex the beer and gotta get the fuck out of here.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's like, Alex, these are your fans.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		These are the people who you've been helping.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but also, I totally think that was the right thing to do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Get out of there.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I get that, but like, he knows that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But it's like, he hates his fans.
		You know, these are your fans.
		Like, listen, man, that's the thing with Trump when he's at those rallies.
		It's like, he must be like, get me the fuck out of here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have people who are just like, I have created a thing.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will deny the consequences of it.
		I will escape it at every possible turn.
		I think that some of that is unavoidable.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To some extent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that no matter what, if you have a fan base, there are going to be some people in it that are like, but I think that it's probably 80% of Alex Jones's base is like, let's not talk to that guy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Rarely will he meet somebody who's like, oh my God, Alex, I'm such a huge fan of yours.
		I'm crazy seeing you in this airport bar, you know, or in the VIP club.
		That's crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we've met a couple people who have, like, Keegan and John are a couple listeners who have come to Chicago, and I've gone and got some drinks with them.
		And then when we were down in Austin, both of them were there.
		And other folks, I don't want to name everybody because I forget some, but Heather and Mike and Chris.
		Like, I met all these people.
		And like, I didn't think anybody was a real monster or anything.
		I've met a bunch of people, and I'm very happy to have drinks with them.
		And absolutely.
		No, there's anything.
		I don't think that there's ever an instance where Alex.
		Oh, boy.
		I see what you're writing there.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Most of them are cool people.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I get you.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But that, that, when there was that video.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Marty was just writing on a piece of paper the code name of someone that we met.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		A possible problematic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		An apostle of Alex.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But I will say watching that video was just like, yes, this is what you've created.
unidentified		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		This kid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you're unwilling to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're unwilling to deal with it.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		What's your point?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		What's your question?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If someone were to come up to me like that, and it were like an accurate representation.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		What if a guy just went, Dan?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for opening my eyes to these Jews taking over the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would talk to them for a bit and hope that I could correct some of those perceptions.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You listen to Alex, so I don't have to.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for cutting out and just letting me know his message.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would try, I would sincerely try to see where the disconnect was, see what they weren't understanding.
		And if it weren't possible, I would say, please reconsider a lot of this stuff.
		There's nothing I can do.
		Maybe you should stop listening to my shit or something like that.
		Because I don't think you're you might not get it.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I don't know.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But thank you for your Patreon donations.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this caller, this first one clearly thinks that's the Jews.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But Rowdy Roddy Piper.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Zion Piper has a slightly different take on it.
unidentified		Alex, I was going to ask.
		I actually wanted to ask Rowdy that because this is Sean Stone finally talking to help things.
		Yeah.
		I'm really curious to know where that story came from because Carpenter wrote it.
		And I mean, he must, you know, in your interaction with him, I'm sure you came across some interesting discussions as to what he thought, you know, who they really are.
		And does he really believe that they are aliens?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, who is they?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		Yeah.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		At that time in 88, I think it came out in 88.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It did.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		They was the propaganda the world was shoving down our throats.
		But John and I, we talked a lot before we made this movie.
		I took it real seriously.
		And John Garber's cool dude.
		You know, I don't want to speak for John, but just the way I remember it is, again, I don't think that we're the only living source of energy in the universe by any means at all.
		And there's big committees right now getting together and saying, talking about people, or excuse me, things from other planets, aliens, whatever you want to call them, tall whites, grays, reptiles.
		And yet.
		We weren't that detailed with it, but John and I both agreed that we don't think that we're alone in the universe.
		And I think that I ran across a doctor friend of mine who didn't agree with me at all.
		And I found that amazing.
		That an educated man like that would not see that far.
		But you know what?
		Maybe I'm the crazy one.
		I don't know there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
		So it's aliens.
		It's literal aliens.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So yes, your hip replacement was successful.
		Also, I don't believe aliens exist.
		And I am crazy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		All right.
		Just go to checkout.
		I don't know, man.
		So one caller is like, it's the Jews.
		It's clearly the Jews.
		And then, you know, Stone is like trying to fix this a little bit.
		Like, who are they?
		Well, I believe it's literal aliens.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Well, you saw their blue faces, you know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So what'd you, why did you just draw a star there?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Just bored.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just doodling a little.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to doodle my ADD.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I thought that was some trigger in your brain.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I also wrote it down RoboCop.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's another example where the first movie, perfect.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Second one, they're reaching a little bit.
		Some of those commercials were terrible.
		The commercial.
		No, no, not the remake.
		RoboCop 2.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I thought the remake was pretty bad, too.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, for sure.
unidentified		For sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the first one was so perfect.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Marty, we've come to the last clip.
unidentified		Yes.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		The main event, if you will.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
		I don't know.
		I think the main event is the opening, just the revelation that Rowdy Piper was on InfoWars, which is such a bummer.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's such a bummer all around, but it happens over and over again.
		Like Gore Vidal was on InfoWars.
		Like I said, Henry Rollins is on.
		Not so much of a disappointment to any of us that Billy Corgan's been on a bunch of times.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, or a surprise.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Jesse Ventura, not really a disappointment because whenever he comes on, he argues with Alex and Jesse.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I like Jesse a lot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because he's always like, Alex, you make no sense.
		That sort of shit.
		Which is great.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I like when Jesse's on and Alex will throw something at him and he'll just completely be like, nah, nah, that's not a thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex, here's why you're wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't do great impressions.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also, I've noticed, like, if you listen carefully to a lot of the, like, Piper, there's a number of sounds that he makes that are very Ventura.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, the two of them have some similar vocal patterns.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They're all just dudes from Minnesota.
		He's probably from Canada via Scotland.
		Probably from Canada.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is he really from Scotland, though?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's from Canada.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this last clip, Caller calls in to ask about aliens.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Roddy Roddy Piper has an interesting response.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Real fast callers.
		You got quick questions.
		Ryan in Missouri are on the air.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Hey, gentlemen.
		And they lived, they had the underground tunnel system, underground base system.
		My question is, some people think that Denver International is like some super secret base, spaceport, whatever you guys want to call it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's giant underground bases everywhere.
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, so I mean, I guess my question is, do you think it, you know, like the movie, they say it's almost like aliens?
unidentified		I mean, I guess Roddy already answered that, but does he think that, you know, does he put two and two together like that?
rowdy roddy piper ▲ ● ▼		I know exactly what you're talking about in Denver, and that they had a huge portrait from like the Holocaust to chemical weapons, and then they took the picture down.
		So I understand what you're saying.
		Again, they, they, you need to stand up against they.
		And I, yes, yes, the answer coming into that tunnel.
		It's like where the Illuminati have their meetings.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Rod.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Roddy.
unidentified		He's hooked.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He's me, 2012.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Roddy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Rod's me 2012.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Roddy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is so disappointing.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He watches a lot of videos.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It seems like maybe a lot of YouTube videos.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I just learned how to use the YouTube machines, and I'm on there just getting all the information.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Smoking my medicinal marijuana.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		All these nice boys are sending me links to watch stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm very scared of that blue horse.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Taking it down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it's interesting that I'm taking the blue horse down.
		Is that right?
		Oh, we're going to miss Blucifer.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I think it's like the time is up or it was supposed to be up.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Whatever the lease was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was a faulty construction to begin with.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Murderous horse.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But still its maker.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As you and I know, because we did an episode about this.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Cracked the case.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've looked deeply into the Denver airport, and that mural is a very, it's very specifically not Nazi in nature.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a part of a series of murals that lead from a horrible situation into a positive view for the future.
unidentified		The children.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the guy who made the murals has a whole backstory.
		All of this you can find by donating to our podcast.
		You can go to knowledgefight.com, clicking support the show, and then you get a password to a secret section.
		Knowledgefight.com.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Secret portal that you can go down there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, where our conspiracy shows.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		A lot of locker room talk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's such bullshit, man.
		It's really disappointing.
		Like, you, you, for someone who's not a monster, like Rowdy Roddy Piper, you hope that they would be the sort of person who wouldn't offer these things up without being prompted.
		You know, like, if he's on the show and Alex brings it up and he's like, oh, that's weird.
		There's nothing like that.
		That's kind of different.
		But for him to be sitting there and then unprompted be like, there's Nazi things at the Denver airport.
		Also, the Brunswick affair is real.
		The New World Order is happening.
		All this stuff, it's like, man, that sucks.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Come on, Rod.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he still was, you know, presumably a very decent guy, and it's sad.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Sad that he's a lot of people.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		A lot of Wrestlers, actors, guys who've traveled the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just think people have got hit a lot.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, I'm talking about guys who've like traveled the world.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		These people who've traveled the world, they always have these stories about, like, I was in an airport, and I talked to this weatherman from Dallas.
unidentified		He told me, we see UFOs all the time.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		We have these weird people who talk to them, and they're like, and I thought the same thing.
		I thought, this guy's crazy.
		But the more I talked to him, the more I knew.
		This guy knows what he's talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Well, I mean, like, coming back from Austin, I sat next to a lady on the plane who was a sweet lady.
		I can't remember her name.
		I feel bad about that because we had a very nice conversation through most of the flight.
		Like, it was only a 40-minute flight to Houston or whatever to catch the connecting flight.
		But we had a really nice conversation about how her brother is into a bunch of conspiracy stuff, and they have bonfires where he does some, like, there's some sort of like, you know, maybe a little druidic acting out and stuff like that.
		But I could pivot that into some sort of a, like, I met someone who's going to a pagan ritual in Houston or something like that if I wanted to.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what all of these conversations that you hear are.
		They are misrepresentations.
		We've covered it repeatedly with Alex, like, he's in a hot tub with a globalist or something like that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I love hyperspace.
		He's on a plane with a hobby.
		And I know exactly what episode you're talking about where you're just like, God, I wish I was sitting next to Alex on a plane.
		I would just fuck with him so bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it happens all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has all these.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But they all had those stories of like, I met a dude.
		You know, that's like your fucking Stan Hope or whatever.
		Like, I don't know.
unidentified		One time I met this dude, and he told me.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's like, okay, dude, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not you.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You were doing cocaine with another person.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Of course, you guys were telling weird stories.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You were fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe that anybody who we might like, like a Stanhope or something like that, is in an airport and not severely fucked up.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And also a magnet for other fucked up people, just like Alex was in that video with that weird kid coming up to him being like, I own Info Wars records.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't exist in a vacuum.
		You attract your own kind to some extent.
		And if you are someone who's maybe a little bit weird having a conversation with someone like Alex, maybe you want to impress him a little bit and you start to lie about your credentials.
		There's so many possibilities.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Because then it's the whole, like, well, I heard from this guy.
		Well, why don't I just say it's I know this instead of I heard from my dentist who put this guy under who was a CIA and as he got a little loopy he's like, yeah, there's aliens everywhere, right?
		I'll just say I knew.
		I talked to him.
		I'm going to cut the middleman out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to not mention he was on the gas.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It gives me a little more glory in this story.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, we've 100% even traced this down.
		Like, Alex talks about having first-hand knowledge that there are fish people in tanks with sad human faces and stuff like that.
		And he's getting it from this guy named Steve Quayle who heard it from somebody else.
		So it's a third-hand story to Alex, even second-hand to Steve Quayle.
		First-hand, who knows who that person is?
		Someone who Steve Quayle ran into at an airport or whatever.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You don't think Alex gets a little fucked up sometimes?
unidentified		He's like, I'll tell you what Billy told me when we got off the air about fucking Nels anyway.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I bet that happens all the time.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Billy fucked a lizard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's fucking Alex is a drunk.
		Yeah, of course.
		That happens all the time, I'm sure.
unidentified		Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And from what I've heard.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		But hey, come on.
unidentified		He's fucking Joe Rogan's lovable little friend.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		From what I've heard, too, from people who have spent time with him or run into him at bars and stuff, Alex is maybe less now, but historically has been someone who is really into people being approving of him.
		And so he would tell a lot of fish stories at bars and stuff like that.
		I've talked to a number of people who have been a party of Alex holds court.
		Yeah, yeah, exactly.
		Wow, everyone is like, we know.
		Like, everyone's rolling their eyes, and he's telling, like, no, no, no, no.
		Guys are having a good time here.
		Everybody around.
		Marty, it's been so fun.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Hey, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry to ruin or slightly tweak your version of Rowdy Roddy Piper.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I have learned a long time ago, whether it's your Hulk Hogan's, your Ric Flair's, your Steve Austin's or stuff Stone Cold's done in the past that I'm not proud of.
		These hit ladies.
		I take them.
		These are not people to be put on a pedestal.
		They're regular people.
		They're very talented at their job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're able to separate art from artist.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I can separate art from artist.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		God, I can still watch Chris Benoit wrestle and go, man, that guy was a great wrestler, but he was a monster in real life.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You kind of have to, to some extent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know where the line is necessarily, but there is a line.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		There's a line.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think, man.
		I think if there's a line, Benoit's past it.
		I don't know.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Just recently I watched it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		If he'd murdered his family before he was so great, then you could never enjoy how great he was.
		But because you already had watched it and you had all of those feelings, you're never going to be able to get rid of those feelings.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if that helps.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You bring your baggage to the table.
		Yeah.
		And, you know, the wrestling business is a business where, you know, it's a lot of trickery and fakery and let them know only what you want them to know and stuff like that.
		So you watch a lot of it and you're just like, or you hear a lot of these guys, like you were saying with Alex, well, if he says this, then that's going to contradict that.
		You've shared these old wrestlers.
		And they're like, well, here's what happened with that.
		And I'm like, well, you've been saying this for 20 years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the cafe.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, well, you know, here's the real story.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's also a business where people are destroyed, you know, like just by virtue of doing the job.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So Roddy Piper the performer, love him.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Roddy Piper the actor, In They Live.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Or the Jesse Ventura ABC Pilot tag team available on YouTube where they are pro wrestlers and undercover cops.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he did drop a reference to it at some point in this interview.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's fantastic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he does.
		I didn't know that him and Jesse Ventura would have ever actually been a tag team in wrestling.
		But he does say he and I did tag team.
		And I was like, does the timeline work with that?
		I'm not sure it does.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's a fantastic thing.
		He's talking about the TV.
		Also, Body Slam is a great movie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		So, you know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's done some great work.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		He has.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But unfortunately, he's also kind of stupid.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that sucks, but, you know, you can't expect everyone to be wonderful.
		And it doesn't seem like he's a bigot.
		Like, for everything.
		That's when we, a couple hours ago when we were talking, I was like, he seems stupid, but in the world he's in, the InfoWars pool that he's in, it makes him not seem as bad.
		He doesn't seem like he hates people.
		He doesn't seem like that's a win.
		If you come out of InfoWars looking like you're not a monster, then not an educated man.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He started wrestling at what, 14, 15?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No high school, no college.
		Yeah.
		You know, prime for Alex to, you know, woo him with his knowledge of information.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Male of a certain age, not educated.
		Right?
		He's a four-banger.
		Like, all the.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Owner of InfoWars Records.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's the Spider-Man.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Hell yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, that?
		He's the 6th Street Spider-Man.
		No, I didn't know that.
		He mentions that at the bar with Alex.
		He's like, I'm the Spider-Man on 6th Street.
		It's a guy who dresses up like Spider-Man on 6th Street.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Has a Quizno sign, flips it around.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Man, when we were down in Austin, I'd been to 6th Street before.
		I'd partied with some college friends.
		Sixth Street gets shut down at a certain point on the weekends and there's just horse cops food everywhere.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Get a little row.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's awesome.
		But like, I hadn't been in years, and when we were down there, it was actually really depressing because we had our show that started at like I think we started at 10 maybe or whatever, maybe 9.
		And so we went down there early.
		We were on 6th Street at like 7 and grabbing a bite and like there were people really drunk.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I was in New Orleans.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sun is out.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I was in New Orleans for WrestleMania.
		So I see that bourbon street.
		I'm just like, wow, this is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think being day drunk is awesome.
		It's fun.
		Don't get me wrong.
		I'm not judging.
		But when you're out on the party street and you're fucked up, sun's out 5, 6, 7.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how some of these people over WrestleMania weekend or week, whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Didn't die.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		We're just drinking all day, all night.
		No, we drank till eight in the morning.
		It's like, Jesus Christ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just take a little, do a little cocaine.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I guess.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Take it back up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Go see some guys throw some grapes.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I guess.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You make it back.
		You get excited.
		The adrenaline comes in.
		You get a little more cocaine.
		Keep going with the cocaine.
		You make it through the whole weekend.
		That's probably how.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I guess it's probably why I got sleepy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I got enough cocaine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's a magic drug.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Basically, what I want to get to at the end of this is cocaine is wonderful.
		I guess.
		No, that's not what I want to get to.
		I want to say again, Marty, thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This has been a delight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		People should check out your show, Marty and Sarah Love Wrestling.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At Marty and Sarah LoveWrestling.com.
		Yep.
		Also, all sorts of like one of the things I want to give you two very sincere compliments.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One is that you guys are so good at social media.
		Thank you.
		You're amazing.
		I had a hunch.
		Yeah, mostly Sarah.
		But at the same time, you guys do a great job with that.
		And then, secondarily, the reason I wanted to give you that compliment is I'm the worst at it.
		I want to get better.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just a disaster.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the other thing is, you guys do so many awesome things for your listeners who are in need.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You do so many, like help boost people's Kickstarters and stuff like that.
		GoFundMe for medical bills and stuff like that.
		And I think that is so fucking cool.
		I think you are and Sarah are both hilarious, awesome performers and creative types.
		But it's so cool that you make a priority to be such humans like that.
		Absolutely.
		I think that maybe you don't get enough compliments for that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That was very nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I imagine that's also all Sarah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No!
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's all me.
unidentified		All right.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		She goes, fuck these people and their problems.
		I go, no, Sarah.
		We've got to help these people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's so cool.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's awesome.
		I appreciate that.
		Thank you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's wonderful that when people have the ability to do that, they funnel energy into that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because a lot of people don't think of that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And it's that, you know, with the whole like, oh, it's better to give than to receive.
		I used to be like, yeah, right.
		No, it is actually nice to do nice things for people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So what else?
		You do stand up.
unidentified		What else?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Nami.org if you need to talk to somebody if you're not feeling sponsor.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No, but I always like to put that out there right now because everything in the world being all weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What is that?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Nami.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's where you can get a therapist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No one can spell that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		N-A-M-I.org.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		NAMI.org.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Live SEC.
		I thought it would be N-A-H.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nami.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		N-A-H-M-E.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		NAMI.org.
		Live PD if you want a fun TV show.
		Toy Galaxy if you like stuff from the AEXINK TOY GALLIST.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		RETIN LINK if you like bad stuff.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Retin Link if you want to start your day shitty.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Get them.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Go see the Menzingers in November in Chicago.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		AAW, Retina.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		AAW is my home promotion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do some commentary for that.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'll be on the Chris Jericho cruise.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		You and Colt both.
		And Sarah.
		I'm Sarah.
		Oh, I thought you guys were doing a podcast on there.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Colt and I are doing professional wrestling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		Okay.
		Sorry.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we'll be it all in if you guys are going to all in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Seriously?
unidentified		Yeah.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		We'll be all in.
		You're all in?
		I'm all in, baby.
		We'll be it all in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did they post a picture of you two?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		They certainly did.
		They certainly did.
		We are all in.
		We'll be there all weekend.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There was one show where Alex kept saying that he's all in against the globalists.
		But he kept saying that I'm all in.
		It's someone on our group.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm all in too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They did a Photoshop of Alex with his shirt off.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		And let me say thank you for all the content that you and Jordan provided.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's our delight.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It's our pleasure.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		As always.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So if anyone wants more of our show, you can check out KnowledgeFight.com.
		We're on Twitter at KnowledgeUnderscore Fight.
		We're on Facebook.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		I'm a Patreon.
		I am a patron.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Proud patron.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let me get you a button.
unidentified		Hell yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you'd like to support the show, you can go to knowledgefight.com, click support the show.
		We'd appreciate it.
		I feel very depressed because the donations have slowed to a halt.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		It happens.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If anyone wants to make me feel better, please feel free to click that button.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But beyond that, more importantly, Marty, we've come to the end of this episode.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And as is tradition, someone needs to be told to go fuck themselves.
		And the guest when Jordan's not here is the person who's got to decide.
		And it's tough because Alex Jones, if you say that, that's very hacky.
		But at the same time, if you say Roddy Roddy Piper, that feels really shitty.
		So you've got to choose someone else.
		And I don't think you want to say Sean Stone because you don't know anything about that guy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		That's about Sean Stone's life.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		How about the guy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's got to be someone else we've talked about, I guess.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thankfully, we've gone on so many tames.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		We have gone on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Someone we've talked about.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to say, let's see, who can go fuck that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You almost said that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You almost said that guy.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		Well, let's see.
		I mentioned Kevin Nash.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did you?
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I mentioned Kevin Nash being a cool heel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think you did.
		I did.
		No, you just wrote it in your notes.
unidentified		Shit.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		I never mentioned Kevin Nash because he can go fuck off.
		No.
		Oh, Vince Russo.
		He can always go fuck himself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You've got to say it as a complete sentence.
marty derosa ▲ ● ▼		Vince Russo.
unidentified		Fuck off.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas.
		You're on the air.
		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a first-time caller.
		I'm a huge fan.
		I love your work.

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