Knowledge Fight - #176: June 28, 2018

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#176: June 28, 2018

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June 28, 2018’s Knowledge Fight dissects Alex Jones’ fear-mongering—from his baseless claims about AOC and Soros to inflated media reach (260+ radio stations, he insists)—while exposing Hotep Jesus’ (Brian Sharp) cult-like branding and racist rhetoric, like Planned Parenthood’s debunked "Pepsi baby" conspiracy. Jones’ selective outrage ignores white nationalism’s rise, yet his propaganda thrives on divisive, unverified narratives, proving his shift to anti-globalism under Trump is just another marketing pivot. [Automatically generated summary]
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jordan holmes

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Speaker	Time	Text
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy and Tanzos, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a first-time caller.
		I'm a huge fan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, we are, Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hello, sir.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How do you do?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As a very polite person, which I know you to be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Mm-hmm.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you were at a, let's just call it like a regular party.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like one of those parties, not like a dinner party, but one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A debutante ball?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, not like a debutante ball, because you, my friend, have already been displayed, and you are fantastic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now who's polite?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now who's polite?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So you're talking about like maybe a gender reveal party.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe a gender reveal party.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was thinking specifically baby shower.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Baby shower.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now you're at a baby shower.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the mother-to-be, you don't know the gender yet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The second party has not happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Uh-uh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She asks you, what should my fetus eventually listen to?
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And could you describe whether or not, or perhaps the relative knowledge of Alex Jones that these people might have?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would say that by the time this show will be appropriate to your coming baby, the world will be long over.
		And so it is irrelevant.
		However, if your child is taken up by the aliens, much like the children at the end of that Nicolas Cage movie.
		What was that?
		What?
unidentified		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or no, that wasn't Nicholas Cage.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It should have been Nicholas Cage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean it should have been Nicholas Cage?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was the John Cusack movie 2012.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That should have been a Nicholas Cage movie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That should have been a Nicholas Cage movie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it ends with the two children being taken up by the aliens to repopulate the new planet.
		Yeah, that's how it ends.
		Spoiler alert for 2012.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I thought that the world was ending.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's why they need to be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So then there are aliens?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the aliens come down at the end.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just at the end, there's just a random out-of-the-blue aliens.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let me be clear.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I might be conflating two movies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My point is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Isn't this a C.S. Lewis novel?
unidentified		Never mind.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, certainly not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My point is, if your child is one of those children, then maybe there will be archives that the aliens have aboard the ship, and they can listen back to what was happening in the culture back in 2018.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they can find this podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know anything about Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Little about movies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a torturous way to listen to this show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan.
unidentified		Although now I kind of feel like, thanks, Aliens.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad that we made the cut.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to thank the aliens, but also I'd like to thank a couple of our new donors.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's been a while since we recorded.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a delight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'm on an empty stomach.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So let's ride this out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it turns out I should always broadcast on an empty stomach.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Entirely possible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'd like to give a shout out and a thank you to, uh-oh, looks like in my soundboard.
		Oh, wait, there it is.
		Never mind.
		I thought I had lost our policy wonk soundbox.
		Oh, no.
		I have not.
		Okay, good.
		And so I'd like to give a shout-out to a couple new donors.
		First of all, I'd like to say thank you so much for joining up with the team, Destin.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We appreciate it so much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, thank you very much for joining.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We appreciate it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, I'd like to say thank you very much to someone who came in at a little bit of a higher level of donation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to say thank you very much to Michael.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You are officially a globalist.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified		Four stars.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
		Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
		Daddy Sharp.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much, Michael.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Michael.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you'd like to become policy wonk yourself, you can go to our website, knowledgefight.com, and click the Support the Show button.
		We would appreciate it.
		It means a lot.
		And we're getting really dangerously close to the point where I can live freely.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's nice.
		It's really appreciated.
		I've got a lot of big work in the oven, let's say.
		A lot of cooking in the oven of things that everyone is going to really enjoy.
		But it's very work intensive and it may take a while.
		And so when this info baby is born.
unidentified		Boy, I don't like any of the words that you just used.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm very hungry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm cooking in the oven.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's an info baby coming out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		Uh-uh.
unidentified		Uh-uh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Mixing metaphors across the board.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I appreciate it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is a baby shower.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Mozletov.
		So we have a Facebook group, Jordan.
		It's called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.
		It is.
		A lot of folks get together and sometimes bicker a little bit in a fun way.
		Sometimes post daddy shark memes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Never a bad idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a delightful time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But in the group, I was noticing a little bit of a trend, and that is that a couple people had commented that we have not talked about the present day in a long time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We have not talked about the present day in a long time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've talked a lot about 2009 because I'm doing a bit of work on digging into the beginning of the tea party, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then we introduced Jim Baker into our fold.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That fucking guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Rave reviews on the Jim Baker episode.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		People seem to love us including him, so we'll revisit that in the future.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, us including him in our show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not us including him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		People love us including him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		People like that we are talking about him.
		And I found an amazing episode that'll be coming soon of him.
		It's utter lunacy.
		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Does it take place entirely at the general store?
unidentified		I wish.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wish it did.
		There is a general store commercial, though.
		A lot of action.
		A lot of action at that general story.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A lot of action at that general store.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I admit, and I accept the criticism that we've been derelict in our duty somewhat of covering the present-day Alex Jones.
		And that's true.
		And some of it is escapism on our part.
		But I contend also that most of the stuff he's saying is stupid and distractionary.
		It doesn't mean anything.
		He's just yelling into the ether.
		And I don't want to cover it.
		It's not that it bums me out.
		I just think if I watch it, it makes for a boring show.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like you and I, I'm not saying that we're better than anybody else, but I think that our skills and what we can bring to the table is not best used in terms of just doing an entire episode about him screaming about something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have done a couple of those in the past when they have come up, and Lord knows they're fairly fun, but they can be.
		Ultimately, it's so much candy.
		You know, there's no nutritional value to it, and we're just what's going on?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just staring at me.
		You're giving people health advice while at the same time you're bringing out info babies.
		You're cooking in the oven pan.
		You're trying to locale us.
		What's going on here?
unidentified		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So just to cover a couple things that we're not really going to be talking about, and I'm sure you want to talk about this a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do I?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The New York 14 race.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Alexandria.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you have any thoughts about that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Awesome. I was like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I expected more.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
		What do you mean?
		What do you want from me?
		I hope she would win.
		She's amazing.
		She is doing everything right.
		She's got all the right positions.
		And the only observation you can take away from her brilliant and inspiring campaign is that Nancy Pelosi should fucking go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She should be shook.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She should be gone.
		She should just quit.
		Like the moment she won that race, Nancy Pelosi should have been like, oh, I'm old.
		I forgot that I am 8 million years older than Alexandria.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, I mean, not to take anything away from it because it's an amazing win, and I hope it's a harbinger of things to come.
		But, you know, it is a super liberal district and all that.
		So there's reasons why a lot of people could underplay things and have a pretty decent argument to make.
		But I don't want to talk about anything to do with that.
		Alex Jones' approach to it has been that this primary campaign.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Coming encroachment of communism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is what the Russians don't want anymore because of God or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, the Russians don't really come into play as much, but he's posted a number of videos about how this is going to bring about civil war and that it's fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm cool with that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Though she is a democratic socialist, he is saying he's putting out these videos.
		And a lot of people, I believe, in our group misunderstand this fundamental piece of Alex's cosmology.
		So I feel like it might be a good opportunity to explain it.
		He's arguing that this is communism, Ronamuck, though this is Democratic Socialism.
unidentified		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the reason for that dates back to his beliefs that come from None Dare Call It Conspiracy, the John Birch Society folk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Socialism leads to communism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		Always does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Socialism is a perfect cell for the people to lead into communism because you're like, all this free stuff you're going to get with socialism.
		And then before you know it, it's communism, which is really totalitarianism in disguise.
		And it's all run by corporate interests.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is a classic argument I think they brought about, especially in the 30s, like immediately following the stock market crash.
		They were like, we hate the Russians.
		They're communist.
		So we realize that everybody is on board with socialism and railroad barons are still a thing, so we can't be having that.
		So how do we make it so that all this works out?
		Well, socialism, it's got an ism at the end of that.
		Sounds like communism.
unidentified		Done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One-to-one.
		Call it a game.
		We're out of here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you look at where a lot of these beliefs come from, most of it comes from rampant anti-communist fear propaganda that was around years and years ago.
		And then into this day.
		And then also just from flimsy ahistorical things like none dare call it conspiracy.
		And I promise I'll do a much better job of explaining all of what's wrong with none dare call it conspiracy in the near future.
		But if we were to do it right now, we'd be here for six hours.
		So we're not going to do that.
		That all is coming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's just important to note that most anti-socialism propaganda comes from the people who are threatened most by it.
		The rich people.
		There you go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The people who are best served by these narratives are the people who want to retain corporatism and capital oppression and exploitation.
unidentified		It's good that the Koch brothers control the system.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So my biggest point that I wanted to make with that is that people who are saying that like, hey, isn't it stupid he's just calling this communism?
		Yes, it is stupid, but there is a reason for it.
		And it comes back to that piece of his worldview.
		And I don't really particularly, I watched the video, and I don't particularly want to go over that.
		So we're not talking about that today.
		And not because I don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he did a special report?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think it was just like a half hour of his show that he released as a bonus clip.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Standalone emergency report.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just don't find it all that interesting.
		And I don't know.
		I mean, it's just fear.
		It's just fear being repackaged, which I guess is our entire show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fair.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he put out a special report on Saturday, which is yesterday as we're recording this on Sunday, where he said that the globalists have announced that this 4th of July is the last 4th of July.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, now I'm in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He just wants to sell stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Independence Day?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's an Independence Day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Where is Bill Pullman when you need him?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, he put out an 11-minute video, and I really thought it was going to be his Bill Pullman speech.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It has to be the Bill Pullman speech.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Low energy Alex came into the studio to do this special report.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Disappointing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's just like, this will be the beginning of 1776 2.0.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I thought it began with the city.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, didn't that happen way back when?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's just redoing all this stuff and be like, we're under attack.
		And then he put out an ad on his website that's just, I want you to get 50% off.
		So I was just like, all right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		These prices, I hope, aren't too low.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		July 3rd, a day that will live in infamy when I cut prices too far.
		I don't know.
		I'm trying to repackage historical stuff.
		I don't know.
		Look, the issue that we have here is that, like, okay, in the real world, we have Roger Stone's aides being subpoenaed and being forced to come before a grand jury.
		We have Roger Stone admitting that he met with a guy about getting dirt from Hillary.
		It turns out he was a Russian guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
		We have indications that are coming out now that North Korea is actually ramping up nuclear testing.
		Of course they were.
		And research was like, Trump is a dummy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why wouldn't you fuck with him?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So all this stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And of course, the other day we had that Department of Homeland Security report that came out that started with We Must Secure, and the title was 14 words.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the 14 words is an interesting, oh no, they're all Nazis.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have all this stuff happening, and I think that Alex is realizing.
		Oh, and of course, on the 30th, we had all these marches around the country.
		And on the 29th, too, there was even more.
		The 29th and 30th, you had all these marches where people were coming together against the family separation policy and how we treat immigrants.
		And that turned into a lot of abolish ICE protests and what have you.
		And so I think Alex is seeing that, and he's like, shit.
		And so now there's the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who's won this race in New York as a Democratic socialist and unseated the person who was, everyone keeps saying, was in line for possible House Speaker.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, which also means giant piece of shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, but you have this, and Alex, he's not that dumb to not see the writing on the wall.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whereas Trump wants to put up the front of like, hey, this super powerful Democrat lost his primary race.
		Alex is kind of, he has to realize like, hey, that was a fucking socialist who beat a very popular, entrenched Democrat that means more to him.
		So I think he's just really scared, and he's going to be lashing out and yelling a bunch of shit, and who cares?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I don't care.
		I don't want to talk about it.
		I do.
		What we are going to talk about is the 28th.
		June 28th, that Thursday episode, we're going to be talking about because I think Alex Jones might be trolling me, and Roger Stone might also be trolling me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Your paranoia has reached the level where they're specifically targeting you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's based on this out-of-context drop.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Alex, that beard is looking really good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it is not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think.
		I've heard about the beard.
		I have studiously avoided looking at it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It looks like shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not allowed to look at the beard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It looks atrocious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know nothing about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I assume it looks atrocious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't fit his face.
		It's gross.
		He looks like a disaster.
		I believe he's been referred to as Chubby Wolverine Dad a couple times.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just a mess.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that the two of them have done enough background research on me to know that I have very strong opinions about beards.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You do have a lot of beards.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so now they're pretending that, haha, this is a great beard.
		No, it's not.
		You're trying to trigger me.
		Either that or it's Roger Stone living his best life and Alex looking like shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's Roger Stone trolling at Alex, is what it is.
		At the end of the day, there's one thing we can be sure of.
		If Roger Stone is doing anything, it is making fun of Alex in the most obtuse way possible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps.
		So this Thursday episode is pretty interesting.
		There's one sort of main line that goes throughout it, and then we get a weirdo guest and some bullshit along the way.
		So let's just dive in.
		Here is what I would say is Alex's main thrust on the Thursday show.
		This is the game he wants to play and is the thread that runs throughout the first bit of the show.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here's the bottom line.
		We have the globalists in total conniption fits over the justice leaving.
		And of course, it was Roger Stone telling you that he would be leaving when they released these final group of rulings that they just did yesterday.
		He's retiring, giving the leftists the biggest fits of fear they've had yet.
		We're going to be going through some of that.
		But here's the deal: Roger's getting on an airplane right now.
		He's off in three hours, but I talked to him right before he took off.
		And I remember what he and others told me back when president was just president-elect.
		And then when the vacancy came up about who Trump's main pick was, but then they came to the president and they said, sir, but he promised to go with the most conservative judge.
		We've got a computer program that's going to decide that.
		So he said, okay, in round one, we'll go with what the computer picks.
unidentified		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In round two, we're picking somebody else, and I know who it is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So I know the current pick is right now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who is it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what he wants to do first.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is not.
		But he wants to tease it out.
		Alex Jones knows who the next Supreme Court justice is going to be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's also probably not true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But, of course, who do you think he's talking about?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Boy, I remember reading through the old.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Judge Janine, Judge Janine Pirro?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		No.
		Is it really going to be her?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Go ahead.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because I read through the list that he originally put out instead of Neil Gorsuch.
		There was the whole 17 possible ones.
		Sure, sure.
		That's a murderer's row of awful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Omarosa.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I actually would.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't mind Omarosa.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think you have to be an actual judge.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think you do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have to at least pass the bar.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really don't think you do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think there are requirements.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm pretty sure there aren't.
		Yeah, there might not be.
		Wasn't Garfield both Supreme Court justice and president at the same time?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I still bet he passed the bar.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet he couldn't read.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Requirements.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was a time before the Gutenberg Bible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Requirements are merely suggestions, my friend.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In this fucking administration, sir, you are correct.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So no other thoughts, no other ideas?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dave.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		From I.T.?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Our villain Dave from IT, who hasn't shown his face in a long time.
		I don't know.
		No, Dave is not in play.
		Okay.
		But before he gets to telling who it is, he's got to tease it out.
		You've got to keep people entertained.
		And so he gets to this, which is interesting.
		Just a sort of standard thing that Alex says all the time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I read dozens and dozens of other books, hundreds of other magazine articles from Foreign Affairs and others who thought you were so stupid, who thought I was so stupid, that they would have their own admitted world government plan going on in plain view.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But then if we criticized it, have ABC, CBS, NBC, and then later CNN, MSNBC say we were crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're crazy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't want Obamacare.
		It's a ripoff.
		You're racist.
		I don't like the Federal Reserve being private and being above the law.
		You're anti-Semitic.
		These are the talking points that they used for decades on everybody, like Ron Paul, myself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I got bad news, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The reason that people think Ron Paul is racist is because of that fucking newsletter he put out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's probably because of all the racist things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's probably because of that super racist newsletter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That racist newsletter does point to bad things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That he claims he didn't write, but was written in the first person and was called the Ron Paul Report.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If we had a magic racist ball, it would say signs point to yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there's that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bad example for him to bring up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then also, if you want to say that that's the talking point, I would say that this is your talking point because I don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the talking point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have never accused him of being racist because he doesn't like Obamacare.
		I would say that might be a piece of why he doesn't like Obamacare, but my arguments are much deeper than that in terms of what makes him racist, which we've gone over with nauseum.
		Right.
		What makes him anti-Semitic is the reliance on anti-Semitic tropes and the idea that he still believes these archaic versions of anti-Semitism and applies them to the modern day.
		It has nothing to do with his idea about the Federal Reserve being a privately run organization.
		That is a canard.
		He's using straw men to get himself off the hook of racism and anti-Semitism accusations.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just boring.
		It's just boring.
		Hate the modern day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just, I mean, because so much of it is, I say this, they say I'm going to say this.
		I didn't say that.
		They said that.
		This is what they said.
		I said this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's too much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's bickering.
		It's dangerous.
		He's bickering as a radio show.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's bickering with himself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's creating fake versions of arguments against himself to respond to, which is fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I mean, but even in Cheers in like season seven, they got together.
		Like, you can only bicker for so long before you got a fuck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Will they won't they?
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All I'm saying is if you are going to bicker back and forth with the mainstream media, sooner or later, you guys got to come together and figure out a medium ground.
		And then you date for a couple of seasons.
		There's a big wedding.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Then you break up.
		You get a divorce, but then you get back together.
		The season finale is incredible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or you could do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think I'm just describing Scrubs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that what I'm describing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or you could do it like House, where he and Cuddy get together, but then it might have been him having an opioid hallucination.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's a great.
		Oh, man.
		What if he just fucked around and had a complete opposite day show?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he has been for years.
unidentified		No, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're talking about Alex?
		I'm talking about Alex.
		Like, complete opposite day.
		No, no, no.
		I mean, for him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He just said he's read a bunch of stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
		But one day, one day, he just gives it all away.
		He's like, I can't read.
		I think Alexandria is the best thing for that district.
		I think she's a harbinger of great things to come from the millennials, which would be lovely, except we're all going to die before we can actually solve this bullshit that the baby boomers have left us.
		So I think what we should do is stop being paranoid and start really working towards a better future, not just for our kids, but for the kids to come after us.
		And then he ends it with, isn't this what you're really afraid of?
		I fucking preach.
		Exactly.
		Call it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we have an Easter sale.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's kind of stupid, and that's the sort of stuff we see all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I just don't, I don't think there's a ton of value.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think he would actually have to end it with all of these products are marked up to the point where the discount isn't even real.
		So this is like, this is really just MSRP that you're playing, that you're paying for these.
		The auto-ship discount is bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		God's honest truth is I'm jealous of Jim Baker.
		Anyway.
		Like I said, this stuff is kind of like, that is standard, Alex, and it could happen at any point.
		It's not very interesting.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This next couple clips are really one of the big reasons why I decided that this episode we got to go over.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because Alex gets into an allegory that might be a little misguided for a number of reasons.
unidentified		Is it the story of what happens to the two kids at the end of 2012?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but it is something.
		No, I have not studied 2012.
		The movie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I did study classics in college.
		I studied ancient Greek, and through that, I read a lot of mythology.
		And I will say that Alex Jones has not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did they predict 2012, though?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They didn't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the victory over Hillary, the main menu of the globalist here in North America, the keeper of the secrets, the keeper of the corruption and her big foundation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let it go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But here's why.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You've got to let him have the allegory, baby.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		$4 billion in it being used to pay everybody off to be part of this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You could say that beating her in the campaign was one step in the victory.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You could.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or you could say it was the whole step.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Beating her in the campaign was one step to victory.
		But just as you, in the mythical story of her head being severed.
		Forgot the name of the first step.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is Medusa?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Forgot her name, but yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You then have to defeat the globalist kraken with the head.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, hold on, hold on.
unidentified		Okay, okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, you know what?
		As much as I know, you know way more, and I don't want to embarrass myself.
		So please.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't judge yet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Please do what you do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a couple more clips to get through, and then we will deconstruct what's wrong here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is presenting it as the first thing that needs to be done is cut off Medusa, the Gorgon's head.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Got to cut off her head.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then you fight the globalist kraken, much like in mythology is what Perseus did.
		Now, we'll get to the details on that in a second.
		But before that, we'll let Alex flesh out his ideas.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But as a symbol of the globalist failure, as a symbol of their media lying that she'd be the winner, as the symbol of them saying Hillary must win or the dominoes falling to bring down globalism will be complete, archetypally, Trump is now holding up the Gorgon head and all the corruption and all the secrets and the entire global network tied into her as one of the top managers.
		He now has the Medusan head to take on the kraken of the global network, the ChiComs, the unelected EU, Hollywood, all of it.
		That's why we have to continue to holly her and bring her up and show how evil she is and bad and how she's a fraud and the corruption she was involved in.
		All of it trail back into the enemy's nest and her head is a blueprint to defeat them.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't like that phrasing at the end there necessarily.
		It seems a lot like maybe Second Amendment people can take care of her, that kind of thing.
		It has that feel to it, and he doesn't say politically, although he does later say that Darren Rather should go fall in a grave politically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, that's nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He kind of has to say that because of what happened this week with Milo.
		Yeah.
		That nonsense.
		Although I will say that from everything I've been able to tell about that case, I don't think that that guy was necessarily inspired by Milo saying gun down journalists.
		Not to say that Milo is okay or off the hook, but it doesn't appear that that guy seems like he had a long-standing beef with that paper.
		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, take this as you will.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Salon had a whole giant piece about how he was in contact with right-wing Nazis and that whole thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't doubt that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, he was definitely that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it was Milo specifically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't doubt that aspect at all.
		And then you also have these, there was, I don't remember, I think it was on the Huffington Post, they put out a piece where they aired a bunch of their hate mail and stuff like that.
		They posted a bunch of things that people had sent them.
		And, of course, whether or not this guy was motivated from specific perceived grievance or generalized, it doesn't matter.
		It's symptomatic of something that all journalists are having to deal with, which is racist, sexist, and anti-Semitic, and just overall violent threats on their existence.
		And that sucks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, at the very least, just the concept of it should not be in the mainstream as a possibility.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, what is permeated throughout by Trump and by Milo and all of this stuff is it's open season.
		Right, right.
		Not necessarily you should do this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They deserve it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, even the responses a lot of people had to the shooting on the, like, the chans and on Gab, all the responses you'd see be posted were like, good, journalists should live in fear, and that sort of thing.
		And, like, that's a really cancerous mentality.
		Because even, like, I think Alex sucks, and I think he's one of the biggest problems that we have in the public rhetoric and discourse, but I don't think people should hurt him.
		Like, I think we've gone out of our way to be very, you might want him beat up, but I don't want him beat up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You might beat up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't want him to lose his limbs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there you go.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Politically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Physically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've gone off track here a little bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've got to get back to the analogy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's happening, ladies and gentlemen.
		And so Trump now, like Perseus with the head of Medusa, is ready to vanquish the globalists.
		The archetype is true.
		There's one more thing, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm really not using the word archetype correctly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If Trump doesn't have the air, he needs a horse.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If Trump can't get his ideas across, he can't get up in the Titan's face.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He cracks Pegasus.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And try it.
		And that's why we're in information war.
		We've got to get Trump on the horse in the sky with the head.
		And we'll win.
		So there is your analogy of Trump and the Gorgon and the Kraken.
		Because believe me, they are releasing the Kraken.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So there's your analogy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, I'd like to tell you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a great summing up of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to tell you about mythology.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So tell me about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The story of Perseus slaying Medusa begins with his mother, Danny, being in a situation where she was going to be married to Polydectes, who Perseus viewed as a bad man.
		In order to do away with Perseus, because he was what was standing in between the marriage that Polydectes wanted to have, he plotted a way to get rid of Perseus.
		His plan was to throw a party where guests are expected to bring a specific gift.
		In this case, he chose a horse to honor Hippodamia, the goddess of horse managing.
		He did this because he knew that Perseus didn't have a horse.
		Since that was the case, Perseus offered Polydectes an option to name a gift.
		In an attempt to get rid of him, Polydectes chose the head of Medusa, knowing that that would probably get Perseus killed.
		As Perseus was the half-son of Zeus, he got some help from the gods in terms of gear.
		Like he got the helm of invisibility from Hades.
		He had flying shoes and shit like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a montage.
		It's great.
		It's so good.
		He went to each place.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		No, it was fantastic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So with all that gear in tow, he went off and killed Medusa as she slept.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He returned with Medusa's head.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like a hero.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, based on the story, yes, but I mean, if you look at it contextually, it's not great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Heroically murdered her while she slept.
		If I remember her backstory as well correctly, she was fucked over.
		And then, okay, I'm sorry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm getting ahead of ourselves.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Getting ahead.
		So he returned with Medusa's head only to find that Polydectes had made his mother a servant since she would not marry him, even with Perseus gone.
		Perseus barged into the banquet hall and yelled, all of our friends don't look.
		Something like along those lines.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ollie alley oxen-free.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Basically.
		And he turned everyone there into stone with Medusa's head.
		On his way back, he went ahead and Mercy killed Atlas, the guy who has to push the world up a hill and go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, now that was heroic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think Atlas was also a dick to him, but he felt bad that he had to keep doing this up and down pretty much, so he turned up the stone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Atlas gets a pass.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course he's a dick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How long has he been doing that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Palmer.
		Yeah, come on.
		Same with Prometheus.
		He can be an asshole for him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sliver pecked out all that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Give him some credit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, along the way, he also found Andromeda, who he made his wife.
		But one thing he didn't do was battle a kraken.
		That is because krakens are not part of Greek mythology.
		But actually, they come from 13th-century Icelandic tales about seaborne monsters.
		Also, it wasn't seen as a mythical creature to the Icelandic people, but instead a real living cephalopod.
		Carl Linnaeus even included it in his original taxonomy of biological creatures, and in later editions, he took it out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was a giant squid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it was actually more of a crab-like being in the original.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was a crab-like meat.
		I did not know that.
		It was a giant crab?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		So the kraken stuff is not real to this.
		Actually, I would posit that putting some of the finer points of what Hillary did and didn't do in the campaign aside, not to paint her as any kind of heroic figure, I would say a better comparison for Hillary Clinton and Medusa would be the following: Medusa was originally just a human woman minding her own business, and then Poseidon raped her in Athena's temple.
		Athena blamed Medusa for that act and turned her hair into snakes and made her face horrifying, so as to turn anyone who looked upon her into stone.
		From that point forward, because of something that happened to her, she ceased to be human, but instead became a grotesque and hideous symbol.
		You might say that Alex Jones has done that with Hillary Clinton.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You could say that this is a perfect example of victim blaming.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, Poseidon, I guess in this case, would be Larry Nichols.
		Okay.
		All right.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The issue is, like, this stuff that Alex is talking about isn't from mythology.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's from that Clash of the Titans movie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		That's exactly what he's talking about.
		The moment he said Kraken, I was like, he just wants to hear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not from.
		Like, he's talking about archetypes.
		That movie came out three years ago.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was just going to say, like, I don't remember a fucking kraken.
		There isn't one.
		I don't remember a kraken.
		I remember the hydra?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The hydra's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Could have used that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I remember a lot of different things from Greek mythology.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember a kraken.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you used the hydra, he'd have to flip into a different person's story or like the minotaur, but then you'd have to go with Theseus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Minotaur would be fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's other issues.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's other issues of Theseus' stories, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is why Greek mythology is so much better than most other religions.
unidentified		I love it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's so good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just random.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I love mythology.
		I mean, it extends to Native American cultures, too.
		I love mythology, but man, when you take it too seriously, you're dumb.
		And then when you pretend that movies that came out in the 2010s represent actual archetypes from mythology, what you're doing is being very stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's what happens when you drop out of junior college and think you're really smart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really don't think he's using the word archetypal correctly.
		I think ever.
		He's trying to, though.
		I think he's got a 60-40 relationship with the word archetypal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, his batting average?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, way later.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		The other.
		I think he's got a 40-60.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Way lower.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Way lower, you think so?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've heard him use it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		10-90.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've heard him use it correctly before.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Baked a different.
		So at this point, Alex Jones is done with his kraken rambling.
		And again, I think that he put that out as a standalone piece also.
		That rant about the Pegasus and the Kraken.
		Oh, the other problem that I have, I forgot to even bring this up, is that the idea that now that he's slayed Medusa and has to fight the Kraken, he needs Pegasus.
		Because Pegasus is what's going to get him up and fly him to the place where he needs to be.
		Look, dude, if you go back to Perseus' myth, if he slayed Medusa, he already has Pegasus.
		Pegasus came out of Medusa, but he killed her.
		That's part of the whole myth.
		It's not like if you have killed the Gorgon, you are friends with Pegasus.
unidentified		Pegasus is how he got back to kill Polydectes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I remember in the Disney movie Hercules that Pegasus was made by Zeus and Hera and they had a great relationship.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They were a pair of loving parents.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't actually remember this 100% being the case, but if I recall correctly, Pegasus is actually the result of the original rape of Poseidon.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's actually a really great thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, the offspring of Poseidon and Medusa, as it were.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
		Yeah.
		I think if I was going to grade his paper, one, I'd say you can't have a paragraph as a paper.
		That doesn't count.
		You're going to have to go back and rewrite it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would say not complete episode grade.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		At the very least, hamburger essay.
		At the very least, hamburger essay.
		What do you mean you don't know what a hamburger essay?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what a hamburger essay is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did you drop out of junior college?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I graduated from real college.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's like a basic, you know, intro, all three of your points, three paragraphs supporting your argument.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like lettuce, burger, tomato.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've never heard it called that, but I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just assume they're like bare bones essay or something like that.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like a formulaic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Get it in, get it out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did not know.
		Although that makes me think of the game Burger Time, and it gets me really excited.
		Remember that game?
		It's a great video game.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it never turned me on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was no leisure suit Larry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd said I was excited.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Running around chasing pickles with salt.
		It's really fun.
		Anyway, at this point, Alex pivots from a historical, anti-mythological ramblings and gets into his favorite villain.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, almost any evil you investigate, you run into Soros and the UN and the IMF and the World Bank.
		What?
		Most of it was in the news yesterday.
		It was in Bloomberg.
		That most of the workers' comp and ambulance chaser, exploding tire stuff in the country is financed by George Soros.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Most of it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I already knew that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But think about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Think about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Think about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What do you think about that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What do I think?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, why?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Does he get a cut?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Soros just wants people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Does he just want sues?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wants people to sue?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jam up the courts with this bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Most?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Most.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Most.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Most every ambulance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you've ever seen a commercial that's like, have you ever had mesothelioma?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dude, have you seen a park batch?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		George Soros.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Soros.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Soros.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Back of the yellow pages back in the day.
		That was all Soros, baby.
		Late night info marshals, all of it.
		I should have known.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I should have known.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And actually, I looked into this.
unidentified		He's right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I was curious about this one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why?
		That's so obviously stupid.
		Just statistically, that doesn't make any sense.
		He couldn't afford that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he did mention Bloomberg, and that means I have a thread to pull.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can look into what he's talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so the article Alex is reading and talking about is actually probably this opinion piece that was on Lou Rockwell's website that cites an RT article.
		But in that article, it also mentions the Bloomberg piece, but I think Alex just used that to give himself the veneer of credibility because the Bloomberg piece does not at all support the assertions that he's making.
		I'll read to you from the Bloomberg article.
		Quote: Soros fund management is pushing into the branch of litigation finance that few hedge funds have entered.
		His family office is bankrolling a company that's creating investment portfolios out of lawsuits, according to a May regulatory finding.
		The firm Soros is backing, Mighty Group, bundles cash advances that small shops extend to plaintiffs and personal injury suits in return for a cut of future investments.
		Wall Street has been betting for a while on commercial litigation, which provides financing of big corporate suits with millions or even billions of dollars at stake.
		Soros is focused on the consumer side, where plaintiffs receive advances of $2,000 on average for legal claims, typically tied to auto and construction accidents.
		The advances are used to cover personal expenses such as medical bills and rent.
		So while some worry that this sort of thing could increase frivolous lawsuits, that argument is made, and I don't know necessarily if that's true.
		Certainly, there's no data to support that at this point.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not necessarily.
		I can't find any studies that reflect that this has led to an increase in frivolous lawsuits.
		One of the important things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that sounds like pure speculation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of the more important things to consider is this: quote: Industry proponents say the funding helps people win appropriate payouts instead of settling for pennies on the dollar under the pressure of medical bills or missed income from work.
		In addition, plaintiffs don't have to pay back the advances if they lose their cases.
		So, as opposed to cash advances people could get in these situations, which require collateral like cars and houses, this is just a piece of paper.
		If the case goes south, there's nothing that the funding group can reclaim or take away from you.
		This sort of thing, I think, while we do need to keep an eye on the idea that frivolous lawsuits could go up, this sort of thing is incredibly powerfully helpful to people who are in situations where they have a righteous suit against somebody but can't pay their medical bills.
		Or, let's say it has something to do with their car and their car is totaled.
		They can't get transportation without some sort of help.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, this group comes in, gives them like $2,000 in order to get by as they proceed through this case.
		Then, they get their settlement of like $15,000 or whatever, pay back the $2,000, and then walk away with the $13,000 that they should have gotten from the settlement to begin with, as opposed to settling for like $3,000 and in the meantime, while the case is going on, racking up like $8,000 in debt or something like that.
		This sort of thing seems like actually a really positive, very helpful thing that Alex is presenting as Soros funds all of the ambulance chasing in America, which is horseshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know exactly how I feel about it.
		I feel like it's a good thing, and at the same time, I don't know if I like an investment bank bankrolling lawsuits.
		I have no idea how I feel about that.
		That's a situation that I literally have no concept of.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's been going on for decades already.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, then fuck you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's been going on for decades already, but largely it's been only the avenue of large firms, and they would only do it with big corporate interests.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, like, big cases where there was a higher stakes reward.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, because you get a much bigger cut of a bigger case.
		Oh, of course.
		So, the difference is that Soros is applying it, or at least this group, Mighty Group, which he has put some funding into, is applying it to people who don't have tons of resources behind them.
		And if they do lose their case, then you just got to eat it.
		And so, on that, on that side, you know, it's one of those things that I agree with you.
		It seems like there are parts of it that I don't know if I feel 100% comfortable with, but the bigger piece is like, if done well, this is great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what I feel about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If done well, if done the way it seems like it goes, great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here's how I feel about it.
		I think that it is a good concept that should not have been privatized.
		That's what I think.
		Because I think ultimately this is like a.
		Yeah, this is ultimately a pro-labor kind of situation.
		More or less, yeah.
		Or a pro-approved individual.
		Exactly.
		So they should absolutely be allowed to.
		Because if you're fighting up against a multi-billion dollar corporation and you can't afford food, you're much more likely to settle, and they're much more likely to get away with their terrible actions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they consider that in their calculus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		Yeah, no, they put that into their fucking budget at the end of the day.
		They've got like a, we're going to set this aside for all the evil shit that we did.
		You know, like that kind of thing.
		Yeah.
		So, yes, I'm all for this.
		And at the same time, I don't like there being like an investment firm.
		I just don't like the words investment firm.
		I don't know.
		I don't know what I don't know how to feel about this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's got a bad taste in our mouths.
		It's understandable, but I don't know.
		I don't think, I don't know.
		I feel like all we're doing is saying, like, I would need to look.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I would need to look into this way more to figure out whether or not I am okay with it.
		I feel like I'm okay, and I don't.
		This is confusing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To put a ribbon around this, a little button on the end, I would say, sounds good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who knows?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, not what Alex is saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's the more important.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is fucking lying.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I don't know if you remember this, but back at the beginning of the show, Alex said he knew the Supreme Court pick was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do remember that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, continuing, ladies and gentlemen, they are all in because they are losing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All in.
		Why does he keep saying all in?
		Is he going to fucking show up at that wrestling show?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I hope so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is all in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's money in the bank.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We are winning.
		Coming up at the bottom of the hour, I'm going to tell you currently, exclusively, exclusively.
		Who is currently the person about to be nominated to replace the outgoing Justice Kennedy?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's pathetic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I was told this back at the time.
		I know about what went on.
		I know the inside baseball.
		I was told all of it.
		And then a lot of it came out later in the news.
		But I'm going to tell you who currently, it may change, but who currently they are looking to put on the U.S. Supreme Court.
		It couldn't be a better person.
		So I am very, excited to be able to bring you this information.
		You might want to call your neighbors, your friends, your family.
		Come tune in, Infowars.com.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Talk people in traffic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Talk people in traffic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's how we reach more people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is sad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Certainly can't do it organically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was my first reaction to this.
		This is sad.
		He's teasing it out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He does this all the time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, but I don't experience this level of doing it all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't bring it up every time he does, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Although I will say that he rarely does the fucking call people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He only pulls that out occasionally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's pathetic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That level does only come out, and I know we experienced it during this fake FEMA camp shit in 2009.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's done it a couple times since then.
		But yeah, generally speaking, it's just the tease is there and it keeps going forever.
		But the like, stop people in traffic and tell them to tune in, that sort of thing is like, that's pretty special.
		So do you have any idea who the pick is?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, I don't know.
		Neil Gorsuch's kid?
		Like, I don't know who he's fucking talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it's Steve Pieczenik.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's not a judge.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know judges, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can you think of any judges?
unidentified		No!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't think of any judges except for Joe Brown.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Mills Lane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know who Mills Lane is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is the judge from Celebrity Deathmatch.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, your level of weird pulls will never cease to excite me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, I existed at a certain time in life.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Weird way to phrase that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a weird way to phrase it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex goes to break, and then he comes back, and he's clearly talked to Roger Stone, and Roger is like, dude, shut the fuck up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's really fun because we get a very clear picture of where Alex is getting his permissions to say things from.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I've been on the phone.
		Folks, that's too much confusion.
		Basically asking me not to say who Trump has picked as the Supreme Court replacement for Justice Kennedy.
		Businessman!
		And I was told by multiple sources at the time about this, and I was not told this in confidence.
		And we've even talked about this on air before.
		But I've already told you that I'm going to say who is, let's just say this then, in the front running.
		Even though this individual's been told, you're next, you're the next one.
		So I'm going to talk about that in the next segment.
		But this is big breaking exclusive news.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		So he is a little bit like he's being told to shut up.
		Like stop.
		You're going to blow up a spot here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because obviously what he's about to say is, man, I hope it's not true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't think it's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's about to reveal it, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's about to actually.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will say the tease does come full circle.
		He does reveal what the name is.
		And man, I really don't think there's any change.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you willing to accept that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will say that the name that he says is someone who I have joked is going to be Trump's next person.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whether it's socially on this show or on Twitter, I have made the joke that this is going to be our next Supreme Court justice.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I could you would you allow for the possibility that this is part of the tease, that this is the work.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You wouldn't allow for that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because of this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So this will be exclusive.
		This information is directly from El Presidente.
		But then I made some phone calls and they're like, well, yeah, that's the case.
		That could change definitely in the hunt, in the front of the running.
		But then why can't Infowars have the big exclusive, you see?
		The establishment cannot stand that.
		But I know there's a lot of smart people, too, that just says who knows how that fits into the calculus or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the reason I don't think it's part of the tease is because he's spinning out on air.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, why can't I just fucking have a story?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's getting really petty and petulant on there about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That does give me a lot of ideas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's really mad about the idea of someone is saying, don't put it that way.
		Don't talk like that.
		Because Roger Stone probably knows he's been talking shit.
		Like he's doing his back of cigar shop talk.
		Right.
		And he's just told Alex this stuff.
		And he's like, look, when this doesn't come to pass, you don't want to look stupid or something like that.
		I imagine that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't buy that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the only explanation I can come up with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but Roger Stone loves watching Alex look stupid.
		Roger Stone loves watching Alex look stupid.
		And then he'll dig at him in that way of like, I'm giving you a compliment.
		And yet at the same time, it's a dig and Alex never sees it.
		And I feel like that's the biggest joy that Roger Stone has in his professional career right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, this is you projecting onto Roger too much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what you want Roger to be doing.
		I think a lot of times he's not.
		Now, Steve, possibly.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Steve Jennic possibly is trying to fuck with Alex.
		And I think Roger is fucking with him too, but for his own benefit.
		And I don't think that Alex saying that Roger has told him that this is going to be the next Supreme Court justice, and then it turns out is not, I don't think that works to Roger's benefit.
		So I think that might be the game that's being played out behind the scenes.
		So now Alex is bent out of shape about the idea that he's being told, don't say that.
		But that's been his tease.
		He's been doing this the entire show so far.
		So he's like, I'm in this weird spot.
		So then he shifts over and he does plays a video of Rod Rosenstein being interviewed by Jim Jordan and Trey Gowdy.
		They're giving him the business and yelling at him about how he's not providing documents and trying to cover stuff up.
		And Rod Rosenstein, the whole time, is like, when something is redacted in a document, that doesn't mean I did it.
		He's just trying to explain that like this is a large organization that we have here.
		It doesn't mean that I did I crossed out everything.
		It's I have 15,000 agents or whatever.
		There's a whole organizational structure.
		I'm not withholding information from you.
		And then Jim Jordan will just yell at him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		So you're telling me that these redacted documents are not just a black pen that he himself crosses out the stuff he doesn't want to see.
		It's not like he's a grade school teacher being like, you're going to need to get rid of this sentence.
		We got to move some wording around.
		It's not that.
		Yeah, it's not that.
		It's a whole top-down kind of situation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so Rosenstein is trying to explain in this hearing that Alex plays select clips of.
		He's trying to explain that like, you know, it's not a thing where I rule over this department.
		It's a thing where I'm the head of it, but there's a lot of organizational structure to it, and I don't oversee literally every single thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying not to micromanage.
		That's a bad way of management.
		I read a whole book.
		It was a Japanese book of management techniques.
		It's really worked out well so far.
		DOJ is clearly running smoothly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Jim Jordan's argument seems to be you run everything, which is not, it doesn't get anywhere because Rosenstein just keeps trying to be like, I don't.
		And then Trey Gowdy's part in it is even weird because Alex is saying that like Trey Gowdy is saying that this investigation is hurting America, but he accidentally plays too much of the clip.
		And Trey Gowdy starts with like, Russia attacked America, but they're not being hurt by this.
		Our process is being hurt by this.
		We need to wrap this up.
		He's wrong about the idea that we need to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anything Trey Gowdy says is the worst.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he presents it, even Trey Gowdy presents it as like, this is a real thing where Russia did fuck with us.
		So even that runs counter to what Alex is trying to present.
		Anyway, it's a hot mess, and there's no real point to listen to any of it.
		If you want to go listen to the hearings, you're welcome to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know exactly what Alex's point on it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like, he's lying under oath.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We caught him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it leads to this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's ridiculous.
		That's why suddenly A.P. Reuters the Hill, New York Times, Russia Gates over.
		You're going to get disappointed.
		It's over.
		It's done.
		What are we going to do?
		But don't think Mueller and those corrupt loons are going to throw the towel in.
		They're just going to make up more crap.
		But this is quite a spectacle.
		Democrats saying attack the family, kidnap Trump's son, murder everyone, kill me, kill more members of Congress, firebomb talk show host, firebomb Steven Crowder.
		I can't even keep track of the crazy stuff they're doing now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Certainly you can't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And physically, like trying to lynch mob me on the street by walk around a leftist area.
		They're lunatics until you stand up, then they start crapping themselves.
		Like, go ahead.
		Big tough guys?
		This is just in the simulation.
		But do you think I'm playing games?
		You think the president's playing games?
		We're taking the country back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Taking it back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Taking it back with the 14-year words that we must secure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Taking it back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's really the vibe of what's, you know, the people who are taking things back.
		They're taking it back to a point where a lot of people didn't have rights.
		Yeah.
		The thing, too, is that a lot of those things, a lot of the things that he's citing as these horrible things that liberals are doing, they're talking about people who did, you know, maybe a little out there tweets about like, hey, people's families are being taken apart.
		Why don't we take Trump's kid?
		You know, like that sort of thing.
		Like, why don't we take Trump's kid into camp?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine with that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I understand that you're fine.
		I don't really care.
		I'm not here to say like, hey, you shouldn't tweet that.
		I think that you, when you do, you open up the possibility of Alex saying that.
		But Alex would say something no matter what.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying don't say stuff like that because the intent is to highlight how horrifying it is that people's kids are being separated from them.
		And I don't think, of course, Alex doesn't want to wrestle with that.
		And at the end of the day, that's the whole thing about the restraining your language and stuff like that, which I've been very much on the side of, and now I'm iffy about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, but that's one thing that you can draw from Alexandria is who gives a fuck.
		They're going to, if you're the most middle of the road, if you're the neoliberal Obama all over again, they're going to say that you're a Democratic socialist.
		They're going to say that you're a complex.
		Yeah, no, exactly.
		They're going to say you're a fucking tyrant.
		So fucking lean into it.
		Lean into it.
		If I was running for president right now, my very first words would be, let's take their guns away.
		Fuck it.
		Why the fuck not?
		They're going to say I'm going to try to do it anyway, so let's just do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have we considered that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would do a DX style thing, like a Degeneration X style promo all the time whenever I were running for office.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would always end and begin with, if you're not down with me, I got two words for you.
hotep jesus ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Suck it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You would do the whole chop.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then we'd kick in with their theme song.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The chop is unelectable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'd kick in with a theme song, the run BMC version of the DX theme song.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You realize that the chop is why Bernie didn't win the primary.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He did the chop one time, and then he never had a chance against it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Political suicide.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's political suicide.
		Howard Dean.
		God damn it.
		I was about to get to Howard Dean.
		You son of a bitch.
		I would just DMX it and say, XX going to give it to you.
		Jordan going to give it to him.
		Say it.
		What's that?
		Socialized health care?
		Jordan going to give it to you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To quote the American worker, I'm slipping.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm falling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't get up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm slipping.
		I'm falling.
		I can't get up.
		Get me back on my feet so I can test shit.
		That's a DMX.
unidentified		Fuck you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I knew it was a DMX lyric.
		I was just letting you roll.
		All right.
		I knew you were going to give it to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, Alex makes he gets back to the Supreme Court thing, and I think in the process, makes it too clear that it's Roger who's feeding him all of his information.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know who the president told, you are my next nominee after the first one.
		And then the issue is I was never told don't talk about that.
		But then it becomes, well, don't steal the president's fire.
		The president doesn't care.
		The president and his folks have told me, attack.
		Press the attack.
		I can't be sitting here politicking trying to always calculate every angle.
		We'll see.
		We'll see what I get into.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's just mad on air about this because Roger has cucked him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But none of these people can actually still be talking to Trump, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think Roger might be.
unidentified		How?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's no way that Roger is still talking to Trump.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		At the best.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sutter and John talk to him.
		I know.
		I was just thinking that.
		As I was saying, there's no way these people are talking to the president.
		I'm like, oh, but a guy just called him pretending to be a senator, and that was fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm almost certain you could talk to him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, we might find out a way here in a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So who cares about all that, what he just said?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, no, he said nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it just makes it more indicative that he's having a fight with Roger behind the scenes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A lover's quarrel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
		Spat.
		So in 2009, I think it was our most recent 2009 episode.
		We covered that February 11th episode where it became crystal clear.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Never forget.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It became crystal clear to me, especially, and I think I was late to the party.
		I think everyone else had jumped on this conclusion already.
		That Alex's principles were largely based in fear of things that eventually could be done to white people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The idea of minorities being put in camps didn't bother him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He just was bothered about the idea that eventually they're going to do it to us good people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As he would present it, us American Western people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Once the slippery slope became a plateau, he was like, eh, fuck it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine with that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so now that was in 2009.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And now, sort of having those scales fallen from my eyes, I hear clips like this from the present day quite differently.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, the left attacks me and they go, oh, you're now for the military and for the police.
		Well, you always hated him and you were the big police state guy.
		No, I was against the left and the globalists and the Ford Foundation and the Southern Poverty Law Center with the training manuals, with the video, that police and military, Shenosh, because they cared.
		Being trained that America was bad, that the Bill of Rights is bad, that George Washington is bad, that free market is bad, and that gun owners are going to have to be put in FEMACACH.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I kind of want that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All of those things that he's talking about are all misrepresentations.
		All of this idea of like these people are being trained by the Southern Poverty Law Center, that George Washington is bad and stuff like that.
		That is all misrepresentations of people realizing that white terrorism is a real thing and it is very active in our country.
		And so law enforcement is trained to deal with that or to look at it as a priority.
		And this, to Alex, is seen as a major threat.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which it shouldn't be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's his audience.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		White terrorists are Alex's audience.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And largely his guest list.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's just mad because he's not on broadcast stations in prisons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If he was on broadcast stations in prisons, he would be fine with white terrorists being caught because then he'd still have listeners.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because they can't get super blue through the commissary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have to work out contracts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, if he could put together a contract with for-profit presents, he would be fucking set.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He'd flip everything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why are we giving him such good advice?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If he worked out a contract with the prison industry for his products, he would be like, everybody needs to go to prison.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The oppressive state is great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The number one way that you can help my organization is to rob someone else.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We will end up in a police state.
		Hallelujah.
		That would be his position.
		If people in prison were a market that he could suck off of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Man, that's crazy to think about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's 100% true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm not entirely sure what to say about this next clip, other than I know that it's not accurate.
		I've mislabeled this.
		It's very vaguely labeled in my iTunes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did you just label it not accurate?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's labeled Trump is actually the nice one.
		And I don't exactly remember.
		I thought that would trigger in my brain what he was talking about, but it's too vague.
		I don't really remember.
		So let's enjoy it fresh.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're the ones saying kill Trump's family.
		Trump's turning the economy on, being nice, bringing folks together.
		But what he is, is tough.
		He doesn't roll over when you attack him, you bullies.
		Then you act like, oh, he's so uncivil.
		They're so mean.
		No, we've been putting up with your bullying and your lies and we are done.
		And we're proving that you had us under suppression.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Suppression.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We just took America back up to the surface.
		Our listeners, Trump, all of us, the Patriot movement, worldwide, we're the leaders.
		We proved we were right.
		We're already turning it around instantly.
		We're like giving oxygen to somebody that's been trapped underwater or water to somebody that's been in the Sahara Desert for three days.
		And people know, they're like, oh, this is great air.
		I can breathe.
		Oh, water.
		Thank you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, whoa, yeah.
		And then the globals go, we're going to wreck America and burn it and have a depression on TV.
		And people go, Wow, Alex Jones always said you wanted to make us poor.
		They're scum.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just kept that last part in there for the sniffle.
		Yeah.
		So, yeah, I don't know.
		I just would say that that's not real in any way.
		I don't think anyone's going on TV.
		I haven't seen anyone going on TV and saying, like, we want to cause depressions and shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What I hear out of that is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Love me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm smart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's definitely that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Certainly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I hear what makes me kind of convinced that it's going to come down to a civil war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You've been talking like this a little bit lately, and it makes me a little uncomfortable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, and this isn't like I want to cause a civil war, but what I hear there is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're talking about something you're afraid of as opposed to something that Alex wants to precipitate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't even think I'm afraid of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think I'm anxious about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think it's more like I've started to feel like it's inevitable because here's how I hear.
		Here's what I hear him saying.
		It just.
		It just reminds me, like, this is what convinces me that a civil war, or even just like, not necessarily a war, like, just break up the fucking country.
		Is that we can't even communicate.
		Like, there's no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But honestly, that's what Alex wants to some extent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He wants nullification.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's what the whole right wing has always wanted.
unidentified		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's the left that is just finally realizing that there's no reaching across the aisle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And this is over.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex even uses this to sort of like impugn Barack Obama back in the day.
		He would always talk about how everyone's comparing him to Lincoln.
		And then he'd go to Lincoln speeches that are like, if I could save the Union and what would be required is accepting that these people have slaves or whatever, then maybe we'd probably do that.
		I'm concerned with preserving the Union.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then as it went along, he got more anti-slavic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And we, and we, like, the, the, I, it's just geography.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If we could, if, if two fucking countries, if Chicago and New York and L.A., just those three cities were like, nah, fuck this, and we all lived near each other, we would create a city-state.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, it would just be, it would just be, we're done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you could flip-flop, like, um, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to say this because it's going to be like insulting to people in Wyoming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nah, fuck them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Put New York in Wyoming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are we playing Jenga?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is that what we're doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, for sure.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Put Chicago in Arizona.
		Now we've got the West.
		You know, you're just going to take the Western seaboard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, geologically, the issue is there's like we don't have it.
		It's split correctly.
		It's urban versus rural.
		And they're done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan, the problem becomes that once that imaginary dichotomy that we're making, where Chicago and New York move to the West Coast, let's say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They just get a big chunk of the West Coast.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can we do that?
unidentified		Can we put everybody on giant mobile homes?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We can't, but let's imagine we could.
		So you do that, and now you have all of the culture, not all of the culture, but all of the relevant pieces of culture.
		There's still amazing stuff all over the place in America.
		It's not to say that people in Arkansas suck or anything like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And how dare me for not including Houston and Atlanta?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Those are both giants.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Throw metropolitan areas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Throw Austin over too, because they're great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, Alex has got to stay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex has got to stay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The rest of Austin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The entire Austin area just left Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Meanwhile, he's become even Buckley.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a DJ.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, Buckley.
		I don't want Buckley.
		I don't want Buckley.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But all of that comes, let's say, and like geographically, it's one-sixth of the country, or what used to be the country.
		Like, one-sixth is this liberal sliver that's free, and minorities have rights, and women have control over their own bodies, and gays are cool, and trans people are celebrated as being people.
		All that.
		And then you have the other party.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		White ethnostate.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What you would end up having, I'm certain, is within about 15, 20 years, I would imagine Manifest Destiny would pop back up.
		Right.
		And the right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then we'd run into the same problem, which is that liberals are pussies and they get run over.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would just become cyclical all over again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The desire to compromise would always be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're always going to lose with that shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's why they want.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You went way too far into that as a hypothetical.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, fair enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I do agree with you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Where would you move New York, though?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Where would I move New York?
		I mean, I feel like.
		I hate to say Wyoming because there's gorgeous natural vistas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		New York needs water, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's water in Wyoming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you mean it needs to be a port?
		No, I understand that there's water in Wyoming.
		What did you think I meant?
		I literally said New York would die of thirst.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I thought that you meant there weren't any lakes or rivers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, that's not what I meant.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I would say somewhere on the Great Lakes, but that's not very far west.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would be great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just push it over to Michigan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just want New York and Michigan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bring.
		Oh, God.
		Who cares?
		Look, we can't fantasy book what the world should look like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is our new game.
		We're going to start a game called Fantasy Union.
		You pick your cities and you see who's going to survive the season.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're becoming like little kids who are creating dream tag teams of wrestlers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is exactly what we're doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's move the greatest metropolitan area over into Michigan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We can have this Midwest alliance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, that would be great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We would totally win.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then we absorb into Canada because we're close enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's your liberal Manifest Destiny right there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We just take over Canada.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or just plead them to let us join.
		I don't know.
		Look, all this stuff is real fucking hard to figure out.
		I don't really know what the.
		I don't know what direction is up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just think at a certain point, when the left realized there's no communication, there's no way for us to say anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because anything you say is going to be turned into you're trying to destroy the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The family, you're trying to destroy America.
		You're trying to destroy the market.
		Any of that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they got there first.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They only got to be able to do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we can't say that that's what they're doing, even though that's what they're doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The only way to do it is to create a more appealing mem that would paint the picture that they are the ones who are destroying that stuff.
		And that would be really tough without the edgelords and weirdo meme makers that are already beholden to the alt-right world.
		Because they're fucking racist and hate women.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, I guess there's really no way for liberalism to really march forward.
unidentified		Guns.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Manifest Destiny.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, it is now time to reveal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Supreme Court.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit, yes.
		Who is going to be?
		I forgot that's what this episode is about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who is going to be number nine on the roster?
		Do you want to give any last predictions?
		It's not Michael Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not Charles Brown.
		It's not Michael Jordan.
		It's not Charles Barnes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not Larry Bird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Judge Reinhold?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, I was hoping you would resist that joke.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was way too easy.
		I couldn't help myself.
		I'm running out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're very whose name is Judge.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Judge Napolitano?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No!
		No!
		The president got out!
		And there was a Supreme Court fixed.
unidentified		No!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I remember that it was in the news some that Andrew Napolitano was in the ring.
		But then later I learned from inside sources, not just Roger Stone, that Trump used a big computer program and worked with some big study groups to look at who had the most conservative federal voting record because he promised to go with the most conservative judge.
		And some of his experts argued, well, that's not Napolitano because he's a state judge.
		Yes, he's very conservative on air.
		Yes, he's a very smart guy.
		We're talking about federal judges up front right now.
		Wouldn't it be best to go with a federal judge first?
		And that you said, okay, I'll do that.
		So I can technically say I've appointed the most conservative person on the bench currently.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		According to Steve Pieczenik, Neocon.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Who has a bigger, longer record?
		A good friend, Andrew Napolitano.
		He is going to be at the front of the running on the next round.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Andrew Napolitano, my friend.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really shouldn't have been able to be right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That should be against the law for me to have been right in that situation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You've had enough context clues.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've joked about it and stuff like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know, but that seems silly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That seems silly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fox News frequent contributor, Andrew Napolitano.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If Trump even says that out loud, we should have riots in the street.
		Yeah.
		There should just be riots in the fucking street.
		Also, you wouldn't need to say, I didn't just get this from Roger Stone if you hadn't just got it from Roger Stone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't need to say it if it's not something that you're preemptively defensive about because it's already true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to tell you a positive about Andrew Napolitano.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He owns a maple syrup farm.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that is nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it good?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it good?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I haven't tried it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's all the positives I have on him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're going to have to order something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's all the positives I have.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other negatives that I have on him is he is a revisionist Civil War guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a guy who.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		States' rights.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That sort of thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Tariffs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		States' rights.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All that stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Lincoln could have freed slaves by paying their slaveholders, all that stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That makes perfect sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All that sort of nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet everybody would have been fine with that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's also a 9-11 conspiracy truther.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, that I'm actually fine with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because I believe that the Supreme Court calls 9-11.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, not good when, like, he's friends with Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not good for the president to be good friends with someone he's like, I'm going to put on the Supreme Court.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, but at the same time, it's technically legal for him to appoint himself as the Supreme Court justice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, still needs a law degree, I think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't.
		Does anybody know what's going on?
		Does anybody fucking know what's going on?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think this is going to happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it's going to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Although I've said that a lot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've said that a lot in the last year and a half, two years, and I've been wrong almost every time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look at Scott Pruitt.
		Why couldn't Napolitano be a Supreme Court?
		Why couldn't Trump just fucking nominate Scott Pruitt?
		It doesn't mean anything at this point.
		Nothing matters.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all just going to lube up the slide.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't even.
		Whatever name he says is going to be the worst possible fucking name.
		You've got a million awful people to choose from.
		And it's not even like Kennedy was some kind of swing vote.
		He was like the 10th most conservative Supreme Court justice in history.
		Like, it doesn't fucking matter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was a hinge on a number of issues.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		On a few fucking cases, but for the rest of the time, they were fairly important, but that's just because he was the fall guy for it.
		Like everybody kind of got together in the Supreme Court and were like, for real, though, reg like we all say we believe this shit, but none of us actually believe this shit.
		Stop it.
		Kennedy, you're the fall guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I hope we don't live in such a world where this could be treated seriously.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It will be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But who fucking knows?
unidentified		It will be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, Alex has revealed his big piece of news, and now Roger Stone, you might want to keep your pen handy for this, because there might be something you need to write down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's Roger's got?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's Roger got to say?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Roger wants to let people know how we can make this a reality.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Judge Andrew Napolitano is currently at the top of the list.
		How do we make sure he stays at the top and gets in there despite the leftist globalist bullying?
		You know, anybody that's really good, that's who they're going to fight.
		Just like they fought Trump getting into office.
unidentified		Well, if you're a believer, as I am, that Andrew Napolitano would be a great Supreme Court justice, you should reach out for the president.
		You can call the White House switchboard where they're set up to take messages from the American people.
		202-456-1414.
		202-456-1414.
		Flooding the White House switchboard with supportive calls would be very helpful.
		Keep it short.
		Keep it respectful.
		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, Jordan has pulled out his phone, as I imagined you might have done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Much like when Larry Nichols gave out his phone number, I think it's time to call the White House switchboard.
unidentified		For quality and training purposes, this call may be monitored but will not be recorded.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That seems crazy.
		What is this?
		A telemarketing thing?
unidentified		Oh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they hung up on me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They hung up on me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great switchboard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't just do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Give it another ring.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't just hang up on me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not usually how things go with telemarketing places.
		Usually do both.
		Bad training.
		No ring here.
		I think they're going to hang up on me.
		Hey.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can I leave a message for the White House?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You should have asked for the president.
unidentified		The office is closed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The office is closed!
unidentified		9 a.m. and 4 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday through Friday.
		Our direct telephone number is 202- Let me leave a fucking message.
		1111.
		To leave a comment for President Trump, please visit our website at WD.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Call back and ask for Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Say you're Ron Paul.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Say you're Rand Paul.
unidentified		For quality and training purposes, this call may be monitored, but will not be recorded.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're turning into the jerky boys.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to do a voice.
unidentified		Why not?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hung up on you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is the worst government we've ever had.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very, very important.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet I could have called and talked to Obama straight away.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a man of the people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do think you should try and call back and pretend to be Rand Paul.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how to do his voice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was going to do Larry Nichols.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do Larry Nichols.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was going to do Larry Nichols.
		Larry Nichols.
		Not that I actually do a Larry Nichols.
		I need to warn Trump about the catalog.
unidentified		For quality and training purposes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on, guys.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My fear about this is there's going to be no payoffs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hi, can I talk to Trey Gowdy?
		I'm sorry, who?
		Trey Gowdy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Representative.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Representative Trey Gowdy.
		I apologize.
		Is he in there today?
unidentified		You need to contact the Capitol Building.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't work at the White House.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't work at the White House.
		Ah, I feel like he does.
		Yeah, but he kind of does, right?
		Like, he's a punk bitch.
unidentified		This is not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a bad prank caller.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was a prank.
		I didn't want to prank call the White House.
		What do you mean?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You just showed your lack of chops.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not a prank caller.
		I've never pranked before.
		Legitimately never prank called before.
		Also, she's put upon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She doesn't need to be on her own.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not on her.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She's just a switchboard operator.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You should ask for pence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would I ask for pence?
		Because he works in the White House.
		Even if I was prank calling, I wouldn't want to talk to that motherfucker.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe you get him talking dirty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Get some of these fantasies out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've had sex with 45 dudes.
		I am very gay.
		I'm Mike Pence.
		I mean, this is PSA.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All we've done here is really the same thing that Stuttering John did, but with no payoff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know why we called it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Edit this out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You kind of hope that you kind of hope that you'd get to talk to somebody.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who would you even talk to?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know that Alex used to say that Trump would be up manning the switchboard himself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Remember that?
unidentified		That's right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I forgot he was manning the switchboard himself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's sitting around taking direct calls from people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's awful close to that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So at this point, Alex brazenly tells a massive lie and tries to do a really pump-up speech.
		Does this really cool speech coming in from Break and see if you can find the biggest lie in this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The biggest lie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Biggest.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Lie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean lie?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		From Austin, Texas, broadcasting on over 260 radio stations.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Over 400 TV stations.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We got number one.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		70 cable stations and simulcast on the internet in every format he can find.
		That's true.
		Message in a bottle to global satellite transmission.
		This is the InfoWar.
		I am Alex Jones, commissioned by duty and justice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was the first time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And commissioned by the president to take action against the globalists and to cover the topics others won't, to tell the savage truths, to break the ice, to blast through the enemies' defenses, to make 300 stations.
		We're here.
		Tip of the spear.
		The tip of the spear.
		Many claim to be it.
		This is the tip of the spear, recognized enemy of the globalist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a three-way tie.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Happy time.
		Happy-making time.
		Like George Soros talked about on 60 minutes, rounding up Jews.
		It was happy-making time.
		Exhilarating.
		Best time of my life.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't realize there would be so many contenders for biggest lies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's four for four on the biggest lie there's ever been 200 and something radio stations.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Commissioned by justice?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's vague enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's vague enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It means nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that might not be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
		That could cancel out.
		Yeah, that's a push.
		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Television got blackjack on that one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Soros.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Soros for sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's up There.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a happy-making time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think anybody's ever said that ever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let alone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Soros did.
unidentified		Did he?
unidentified		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In German?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he's Hungarian.
		But he's talking about his time in the time of the Holocaust.
		And he's discussing how he was a 14-year-old and he felt free because of the heroics of his father saving a bunch of people from going to camps, and how that was a he felt invigorated, like nothing could touch him, even though the world was crumbling all around him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh no, that's right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the happy making time, uh quote, is, Alex has re-watched those videos and found a couple new things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah yeah, he's been saying that one, a whole bunch I had.
		I hadn't heard that one before.
		I didn't know about that one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He he's revisited and found some new ammo, but again, it doesn't really mean anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because he's also you know yeah, he's still pushing that same narrative.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah uh man, the 200 radio stations though, that's a number that's, that's a hard number that we can say is a lie boy, that's not true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not true man, it's closer to 20.
		is he even allowed to say that sure you can lie about whatever you want oh that's true we're on 6,000 radio stations are we totally which ones all of them Fm.
		All of them, all of them.
		Knowledge fight.
		You can find it everywhere on the dial.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can find it everywhere.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're 24, 7 on every radio station.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why do we even do those plugs at the end?
		Because you can't not find knowledge fight exactly.
		Yeah, we're stupid.
		We are crazy everywhere.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So yeah now Jordan, we get to a guest and this guest is wild.
		There's been a lot of bullshit on this episode so far, whether it's misrepresenting mythology, whether it's really teasing out the entire episode that Andrew Napolitano is going to be a Supreme Court justice, which I know we're laughing about now, but unfortunately, I do foresee a world where I really don't think that's far.
		It's not beyond the pale, unfortunately.
		But now we get a guest and this guy is real weird yeah, real strange guest for Alex to have on here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We go not surprised.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That happened about a month and a half ago.
		One of the top stories in the country.
		He's been all over the news.
		Hotep Jesus Uh joins us and I didn't know until I already went on with Owen Shorter that he was even a listener for a while, but he's got a long, interesting bio, Booksbybrian.com.
		Hotepnation.com twitter, vibe hi Uh, but it's great to have him on with us.
		I just want to get him on as a commentator routinely to give his take on the world, the things he's doing, because i've seen that club wanted him on my show.
		Then I saw him uh, with Owen.
		I was like well, i'm jealous, Owen got him a couple times I haven't.
		I watched an interview and really like what he had to say, which we'll cover the waterfront, but I think his awakening is important.
		That's one of the things he wanted to talk about because it's part of other people's awakening.
		And then where is this point in the world we are right now, when things have gotten so crazy, and where does he think things are going next?
		So Hotep, thanks for joining us.
unidentified		Alex Jones doing man, what's up baby?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is the best start.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not bad to an Alex Jones call I think we've ever had on this show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you know who Hotep Jesus is?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know who to Hotep Jesus is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a comedian, uh and uh writer uh, who?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The guy who went into Starbucks and got his His reparation coffee.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's pretty funny.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was discovered.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty funny.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That video that was supposed to be so damning, and all that happened was someone was really nice to him at the Starbucks.
		I was like, yeah, I felt like that was kind of bullshit.
		All right, here's a free coffee.
		And there was no real point made by it.
		I don't think that the person at the Starbucks was expressing immense white guilt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, if I remember correctly, my opinion was just go away, dude.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, I think she was much more nice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I understand that, but there's a certain level of like, yeah, all right, cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And again, let's just not make this a thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And again, as someone who has managed to Starbucks, I will tell you that they have a policy of just give people some coffee.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even homeless people that come in and they want a cup of coffee, you're supposed to give it to them because that's good PR, more or less, or good for the community and what have you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And let's face it, coffee costs $0.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he went viral making that video.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so now Alex has got to have him on because he desperately needs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's so obsessed with being viral.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And again, he's thrilled to have someone who is not white who is into his worldview.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is he still living with his parents?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did he get kicked out?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Although Alex doesn't want to have that guy on anymore.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it turns out that Mike, there's a Vice put out a video that was catching him back up with Mike Rotondo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, VH1's where are they now?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		More or less.
		And it turns out that he is now living with a lady who allows him to live there in exchange for doing yard work.
		An older quote-unquote yard.
		It seems like that's the case.
		I don't know.
		I don't want to disparage anybody.
		It seems like she's a very nice lady.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And she should get hers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of the reasons I think Alex will never have him back on is because in this Vice video, the lady is being interviewed in front of her house, and she has a blessed Ramadan sign in front of her mouth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now Mike Rotondo has been taken in by a very generous Muslim woman.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And at press time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, ironic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And at press time, it's very mysterious what happened to that $3,000 that Alex gave him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And when he was on Infowars, he was going to move in with that guy who was super into InfoWars, and clearly he hasn't moved in with that guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be gross.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is where my interest in the Mike Rotondo saga has far exceeded its expiration date.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Man, if he converts to Islam, that would be the best.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He comes back on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's like, salamaeku.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Brother Alex.
		Salam alaikum.
		That'd be so great.
		That would be so good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now here's what Hotep Jesus wants to get into, and then we'll get into him.
hotep jesus ▲ ● ▼		But we got to do one thing for the Internet today.
		We got to do one thing for the Internet today.
		The Internets need to see me and you side by side screaming and raging at the Globalist, man.
		Can you do that for me, man?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		I lose my voice.
		My voice used to be scratchy, but I screamed so much.
		My larynx is gone.
unidentified		It's like, this is a great radio.
		I love it.
		Yeah!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A religious simultaneous.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know you're going to do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You owe me a cup of coffee.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It feels good now.
		But it feels as good as you.
		I'm done with whatever you.
		I'm not buying anything you say.
		I'm free, and I'm not buying your crap anymore.
unidentified		Ah!
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
hotep jesus ▲ ● ▼		That's how I feel when I come off my periscope.
hotep jesus ▲ ● ▼		I got that Alex Joe read.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I got old, though.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I try not to do that anymore, by Taylor.
hotep jesus ▲ ● ▼		We need that.
hotep jesus ▲ ● ▼		The movement lacks passion, and you bring passion, and I love you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what the conservative.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Usually, when I do it, I kind of, I mean, I'm already passionate about having you on, but I'm usually something's already pissed me off.
		It's all coming together, but I realize, you know, they're not going to suppress us.
		Then I decide to fight, and then it just happens.
		But yeah, they made some good memes with what's that called? Super Saiyan and some kind of Japanese TV thing where they're going, ah!
hotep jesus ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, Super Saiyan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Super Saiyan.
		Enough about me.
		Enough about me.
		My voice now halfway gone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dragon Ball Z. Goku went Super Saiyan in his first fight against Frieza.
		It was very important.
		Then, as the series went on, there were different levels of Super Saiyan.
		In Dragon Ball Super, which is the new version of that, there was a Super Saiyan God level.
		It's a really convoluted situation.
		It's fantastic.
unidentified		And then just gloss over that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then Sonic stole it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Minus one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Went Supersonic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a woman.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're even.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, I'm stalling a tiny bit because it's really funny that all this comes up.
		Because on Hotep Jesus' website, he has an article that has come out.
		Let me see the date on this.
		I'm not entirely sure.
		May 18th of this year titled.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dragon Ball Z is Liberal Bullshit.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dragon Ball series teaches valuable life lessons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Should I read this to you?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to hear this so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Watching Dragon Ball series life lesson nostalgia.
		Every episode hints at a hidden esoteric gems.
		Allow me to provide a high-level overview of what's reinforced.
		Gohan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's Goku's son.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Gohan has the luxury of being homeschooled until he's of high school age.
		What's the condition of the public school systems today?
		Wouldn't it be ideal if families could homeschool?
		Thanks to his mother, Chi-Chi, Gohan focuses on his books, unlike his father, Goku.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		After proving his power and a victory over Cell, he finds it important to be educated.
		He actually didn't win against Cell.
		He went Super Saiyan level two, but it was once again a spirit bomb that defeated Cell.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now let's talk about Vegeta.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, let's talk about Vegeta.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This guy is my favorite character.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is his sheer will, which sometimes borders on ignorance, that inspires me.
		This guy trains non-stop.
		He will stop at nothing to be the best.
		Before the Android saga, Bluma, Bulma, his wife, builds him a gravity machine.
		Basically, it's a room where gravity gets multiplied.
		The average human would not be able to stand up in this room, let alone train with the machine set to low.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Vegeta not only trains in this thing, but he literally destroys the machine while it's set to over 300 times gravity.
		He was doing handstand push-ups on one arm and a gravity machine.
		Spoiler alert, it's a cartoon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, now this is important in the context of his own argument because the only reason that Vegeta did this was because Goku did the same thing on his spaceship flight over to the planet Namek, all right, when he was going to fight.
		And that is arguably why Goku went Super Saiyan in the first place.
		So Vegeta was just trying to catch up.
		Vegeta is just a jealous little bitch.
		That's what's going on there.
		And that is the conservative movement in Goku.
		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's the series protagonist and Japan's Mickey Mouse.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's not there yet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think Pikachu is still a little bit more.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I hate him, but I respect him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		By the way, of course he hates Goku.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The most relentlessly positive character.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Every sentence that I'm reading is a new paragraph.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Every sentence is its own paragraph.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He annoys me for two reasons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He drops his guard too easily, and he's a naive idiot.
		Oh, no.
		Oh, no.
		Splashed a little, uh, that beer was a little loaded there.
		Uh, he drops his guard too easily, and he is a naive idiot.
		But you have to respect he's gangsta when it comes to fighting.
		He wants to fight anyone and everyone to prove his supremacy as a fighter.
		After Krillin dies for the second time at the hands of Frieza, we see Goku turn Super Saiyan.
		Goku has a unique drive to consistently reach new heights.
		He's always pushing the envelope, pushing himself to the next level, not being satisfied with his current successes.
		You're only as good as your last fight, parenthetically, accomplishment.
		Sometimes we get stuck on celebrating our past achievements, and we embellish them to prove our worth today.
		What is the next achievement?
		What height are you reaching for?
		So that's what he has to say about Goku.
		How do you feel about that?
		Does that track with your understanding of Dragon Ball?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not a terrible, that's not a terrible analysis of Goku.
		Now let's talk about Piccolo.
		Let's talk about Piccolo.
		Piccolo is a very interesting character.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This guy is like the godfather of the Z-Fighter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't make sense, but okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a mastermind behind the team.
		Without around because he's trying to save the universe, training, or waiting to be wished back to life.
		Gohan doesn't have a masculine energy to mentor him.
		Piccolo steps into that role.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can see his mentorship paying off when Gohan basically becomes the coach for Universe 7 in the tournament of Goku is ready to enter the tournament every day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's Dragon Ball Super, I believe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to read this entire Game Boy.
		But it's Gohan's mind that creates the plan to work as a team, a foreign concept for Goku and Vegeta.
		What's the lesson here?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is the lesson here?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The youth have the energy, and the elders have the wisdom.
		Experience is meant to be passed down.
		When the two are combined, you create an unstoppable force.
		Too often, we set bad examples for the next generation, especially on social media, which is very relevant in Dragon Ball.
		That's parenthetical.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is not very relevant.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Parenthetical.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The kids are watching, and they will emulate us.
		You don't always need to lead someone with hands-on mentorship because they are watching.
		We need to.
		Holy shit, this has nothing to do with Piccolo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, did he say that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that's me.
		That's you?
		There's six more paragraphs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's six more paragraphs.
		Let's talk about Chi-Chi.
		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of all the characters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
		Chi-Chi, he's going to knock on her.
		Or no, he's going to do the opposite.
		He's going to say that she is like a stereotype.
		She's like the mother ideal.
		That's his opinion, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Quote: Of all the characters, Chi-Chi is probably the most grounded.
		While others are distracted with training and fighting aliens, Chi-Chi is the one who reminds them of the bills that have to be paid and kids have an education to get.
		She's what's missing from so many families in America.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There it is!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		With feminism pulling women out of the home and into the world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Traditional values, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no one at home to attend to the kids full-time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		With the full-time mother, kids get the care and attention they need.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's a legitimate criticism of Chi-Chi's character, not a supporting argument.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's gender roles that hold the family together as a solid unit.
		Chi-Chi was no pushover.
		She's the only person who can intimidate Goku.
		She had assault rifles and submachine guns.
		Parenthetically, definitely a Second Amendment advocate.
		I don't think that was in America.
		I don't think Dragon Ball Z happened in America.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it didn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It did not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fair.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, I know nothing about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just assume not about the Constitution.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just realized I know way more about this than I should.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She was a slouch.
		She was no slouch and could fight with the best of them.
		That never got in the way of a role as a woman.
		She kept Goku checked and grounded.
		She's the mind of the home.
		A vital role.
		Creating a powerful nation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This isn't done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How is this not done?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What do you think about Frieza?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't.
		Frieza literally wanted to destroy the world for his own power.
		There's no way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is funny.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As I mentioned in my book, sometimes...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
		I don't like that he has a book.
		I can't write a book.
		He should not be allowed to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's as good a point as any to transition off his rambling about Dragon Ball.
		So he's written a book.
		His real name, Hotep Jesus, is Brian Sharp.
		And he's written a book called, quote, Twitter Marketing, How to Build a Cult-like Following.
		That's his book.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It promises to teach you how to, quote, write viral tweets every time, how to network with influencers for your benefit, how to manipulate Twitter algorithms.
		Although he misspelled algorithms in the ad for the book, not important.
		This is the same as Dave Seaman, the Pizzagate vlogger turned Bitcoin hack who had previously written a book all about how to create and use buzz.
		These people at their core are all scam artists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Should we buy that book, though?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe we could get some better Twitter traction, but I think we would end up losing a bunch of ourselves in it.
		So we've talked about him.
		I like that diversion because it's fun to yell about his rambling about Dragon Ball.
		But what's more important is to look at this guy as a person.
		So I will the name he wants to go by is Hotep Jesus, even though his name is Brian Sharp, so I'll refer to him as Hotep Jesus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's Hotep Jesus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In a post on his website, Hotep Jesus defines what Hotep lifestyle means to him.
		And as best I can tell, it's pretty much just about black nationalists working together with white nationalists.
		As Hotep Jesus put it, quote, you know it's bad when I'd rather align with a racist white than a crybaby black.
		This is not really new.
		David Duke and Louis Farrakhan respect each other's desire for their respective races to live separately from one another.
		It's not really a new, like, it's not a novel perspective to have, but he's just trying to merge black nationalism with white nationalism because they would be a much more powerful force together.
unidentified		I'm going to go with an inconclusive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I will say inconclusive as to whether or not they would be a far more powerful force working together.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think if there was a way for them necessarily to work together, I think it would be, I think it would distract a lot of people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think Fred Hampton was the last person to try and do that, and he got murdered for it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I don't think that was necessarily strict black nationalism and white nationalism he was trying to bring together.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, he was trying to do that, but under the aegis of, hey, let's not do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's not be black nationalists or white nationalists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Another post defines Hotep, which is a term for a lifestyle, a grouping.
		Hotep is not just like a.
		We'll get to the second.
		All right.
		But another post defines Hotep as being all about strengthening the, quote, nuclear black family, specifically defined as a man, woman, and child.
		This post goes on to explain that they're not homophobic, which seems really strange.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shouldn't need to say that, just like, just like when he says, hey, I didn't just get this from Roger Stone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, a caveat of, hey, I don't just want to, is an argument against your point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, but it also is like, all we care about is the black nuclear family, man, woman, child.
		Also, we don't have gays, although they aren't having a man, woman, and child.
		You know, they're outside of the thing we seem to only care about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we're not homophobic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would you be?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just don't understand how those two things match up, but whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can say whatever you want to say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, the Hotep name denotes a black nationalist new religious movement that's emerged that is basically about an Afrocentric version of this thing called chematism, which is the belief that the ancient Egyptian pharaohs were black.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it goes back to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they were African.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		Egypt is in Africa.
		Black.
		But this is a spiritualist movement.
		This is like an esoteric movement that involves a lot of...
		Alex isn't taking into account all of the other things that his name being Hotep Jesus and what he's involved in outside of politics, like the religiosity of the chemotism and stuff like that.
		is really counter to what Alex is into.
		This guy is close to the lost children of Babylon in terms of their like that rap group, in terms of the Nuabians, like those sorts of groups.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		First off, give me the 5% nation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very close.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's Islam.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		Second, I don't think that jives much with Alex really in like because, just like we, just like we or just like you came to the realization of.
		All of his fears were about what if this happened to white people.
		Right, and at the end of the day, all of Hotep's ideas are, like you do you man, and leave us the fuck alone.
		So that's let's do let's yeah, that is, that is the same thing.
		Like he's only afraid of black people if there's the idea that there's an encroachment upon his uh, whatever it is.
		And if they're fine with his uh yeah, if you're fine with me being a white nationalist and you just like like, don't live near me, then you can believe whatever the fuck you want.
		Yeah I, I like.
		Alex just doesn't want to see anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I mean, he said it over and over again he doesn't want to be made to feel bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he doesn't want to feel bad about the bigotry that lives with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly yeah, I want to be a bigot, but you, but from like a distance, like i'm, i'm fine with being a bigot, as long as you don't come into my.
unidentified		I don't want to see those Muslim women at the pool shop exactly, I just go to the pool shop exactly, and hate them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When I get home, I want the 1950s White city.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what he wants.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now, beyond that uh, Hotep Jesus does not seem like a great guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He had an interesting take on the Unite, The Right rally in Charlottesville, quote, if there was no anti-protest there uh, there would have been no clash, Deandre Harris wouldn't be hurt and Heather Hair wouldn't have been murdered.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fact exclamation point, I mean with zero context.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I suppose that's a factual statement.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you let Nazis march, the individuals who were killed uh, or hurt in the anti-protest would not be hurt, but they would all be hurt as more and more Nazi protests and rallies happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What he just said was if the Jews didn't live in Germany, they wouldn't have been holocausting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's something there's, there's some similarity there.
		Yeah, so he's also appeared on this show called RED ICE TV, which is a show run by Henrik Palmgren, who's a Swedish white nationalist.
		Yeah, I was gonna say, if your name's Henrik Palmgrengren, he's a Swedish white nationalist and holocaust denying vlogger Red Ice in the last month has put out videos with titles like quote, they want you dead white man.
		And quote, why, little bit, why interracial relationships are pushed on white women and weirdly a tutorial on how to make beef jerky.
		That is still somehow racist.
		I watched it very weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		okay all right this is the white way to make beef jerky it's very weird i don't pull it look if you pull this jamaican jerk chicken bullshit that's not even jerky i'm going to tell you that right now that's like a combination of spices what are you even fucking talking about i've seen my share of like cooking tutorials and stuff Stuff like this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This one was like, this is racist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How can you make a racist cooking tutorial?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I recommend everyone go watch it.
		I think you'll agree with me.
		Feels fucked up.
		So when he was on Red Ice TV, he asserted that white supremacy isn't real and it's actually a plot of the Jews.
		Quote.
unidentified		Why does it always come back to the goddamn Jews?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Quote, the only thing that makes white supremacy a thought in people's mind is the media.
		And the media is controlled by who?
		Should have been whom.
		The only thing that makes white supremacy a thing is music.
		And it's controlled by who?
		Should have been whom.
		The movies, Hollywood, who controls that?
		Black people don't control that.
		White people don't control that.
		Our banking system.
		When we talk about people got sold out, banks got bailed out.
		Well, who controls these banks?
		The minute you say gay, trans, Jew, it's off limits.
		So I already know that my country, United States of America, is going to become an Islamic Jewish LBT dominant state.
		Cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think the Islam that he's afraid of is cool with the LGBT state that he's also afraid of.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's afraid of a lot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would like it if these guys just kind of like sat down, like really worked out the fears that they have and like the the Venn diagrams that they exist with it.
		You know, like I'm cool if you're I'm not cool.
		I'm just saying it tracks ideologically if you're afraid of Muslims.
		because the hard line, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't happen for a very specific reason.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These people aren't interested in reality.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're interested in spreading a fear.
		Like, if this Hotep Jesus were to sit down and think about, like, what am I advocating?
		Does this make sense?
		Does A, B, and C of the things I'm afraid of, could they possibly coexist in a state I should be afraid of?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He would have to sit back and be like, I got to get a better argument.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's not happening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he's not interested in that.
		It's not about that.
		It's about branding.
		It's about getting a cult-like Twitter following.
		It's about what he wrote a fucking book about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, we should read that book.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He didn't write a book about culture.
		He didn't write a book about how it's important to free yourself from the shackles of the globalists or whatever.
		He wrote a book specifically that he sells at booksbybrian.com.
		It's B-R-Y-A-N.
		If you look for books by Brian spelled B-R-A-Y-I-N.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just a different Brian.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's Brain.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		B-R-A-I-N.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, B-R-I-A-N.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what I meant.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You said B-R-A-I-N twice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you go to that, it's Amazon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What do you get at booksbybrain.com?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I haven't checked that out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now we've got to find that out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's books by Krang.
		But the book that he's selling that he's trying to push is about getting attention to yourself.
		It's not about the substantive issues.
		And that leads me to believe that that's what he's more interested in.
		And at the same time, spreading some of these very deeply bigoted opinions that he has.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or if you are a deeply bigoted opinions are a way to get that attention in the cult like followers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say, is he like a comedian?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, he is credited all the time.
		He was on Laura Ingram's show, and he was credited as a comedian.
		Yeah, but like he put out that viral video.
		I don't know if he does stand-up comedy.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know anything about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		We should work.
		I should have looked.
		We should work on it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I should have checked that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if we got to see if it was.
		No.
		But to that point, if you are a black man looking to get as much viral attention as you possibly can, perhaps taking the positions that people who have power Want you to take in order to take advantage of the fact that you are black saying all of these things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And discredit the actual voices who are working for the people, the workers of the world, the working class, the.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Then it's a solid strategy to get yours.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like it took Alexandra Cortez.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alexandria.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alexandria.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not Alexandra.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whatever.
		Alexandria Cortez, Ocasia-Cortez.
		It took her winning this race in order for people to actually talk about her in the media.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the Intercept was like, hey, go her, and the rest of the world was like, we don't need to...
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, it took the actual winning of the primary race in order for it to become a voice that's amplified.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if you go this route, it's very easy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Still get attention.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Candace Owens makes millions of dollars.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you're running a scam, you can find your niche.
		You know?
		Like, you can find it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Hotep Jesus wrote a blog post called Anti-Racism is Worse Than Racism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And why Dragon Ball is the exemplary of this fact.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Where he says, quote, what's so wrong with white people saying white lives matter?
		If you say black lives matter, doesn't that open the door for its antithesis?
		Now, this is dumb, but on one level, I respect it, kind of, because it's pretty amazing that even he understands the people who are saying white lives matter are intending to be the antithesis of black lives matter.
		People who say white lives matter would say that is not the case.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They would say all lives matter.
		Right, right.
		As a way of stealthing the no, white lives matter, more argument to the table.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's at least bringing to the table, like, yes, they are being racist, but I respect that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, yeah, they're trying to be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's trying to be a less funny version of Patrice O'Neill on some levels.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nonsense.
		So he goes on to say, quote, when white people scream white power, white lives matter, black people get offended.
		I don't.
		I'm proud of these whites.
		It's self-determination, and I'll gladly applaud any group that exhibits self-determination.
		My counterpoint to that is that historically, the people who yell white power are also the ones who are really into hanging black men for looking at white women.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it doesn't usually mean like, hey, I love being white and I like to celebrate, eat a brat.
		It's not that.
		It's usually white power against you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's usually the people who will throw an N-word at you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Which, to that point, three black congressmen just introduced the maybe lynching should be a hate crime bill.
		It's 2018, guys.
		2018.
		We should have already been on that one a long time ago.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It seems like it.
		Also, there's three.
		So he also goes on to say: if black protest, if black anti-protest groups in Antifa didn't show up in Charlottesville, the truth is none of us would be talking about Charlottesville.
		If you picture white nationalists as a fire, anti-protest groups would be the fan that intensifies it.
		My counterpoint to that is, nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or you could say, if you picture people who are tired of being murdered by white supremacists as a fire, then white supremacists are the people who are fanning it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the night before the Charlottesville rally, there were the fucking Nazis yelling blood and soil and ranting around with their tiki torches and what have you.
unidentified		And their Gator shirts?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The cross khakis.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Their Trump outfits.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So, I mean, and also, like, this really doesn't take into consideration that what happens with movements like fascism and white nationalism and white supremacy is that when it's unopposed, it grows.
		And when it's emboldened, it gets a foothold.
		And when that happens, everyone gets hurt.
		White people get hurt.
		Black people get hurt.
		Gays get hurt.
		Everyone across the spectrum gets hurt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Gypsies, historically.
		I should say Romani.
		Excuse me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, and even that is.
		But the thing about that that is really, really important in terms of that don't feed the trolls narrative is it is a tiny, tiny part of America that is out and out white supremacist.
		But because they have gained such a foothold, the Republican bloc, because they're associated with that, are playing the team sports.
		Like my parents are not really, because they don't even understand it, white supremacists.
		But they're on the team.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're de facto.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So they're like, well, yeah, of course we support all these white supremacists because we're not on your team.
		Your team has to be wrong.
		So, I mean, yeah, now we're white supremacists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now we're actually, we've tricked ourselves into supporting this thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we can't get away from it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So it is important that it's just a foothold, and the foothold was all it took in a team sports situation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's why the protesting groups, the anti-rally groups are essential, crucial, because they are the people who are there who are saying, no, this isn't okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Those people need to be rebuked at every turn.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, Dan, we're not being civil.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We should allow them to gain their foothold and overtake our entire country in order to maintain a dialogue with them that allows us to communicate and have them take over, but then they're nicer to us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		So this has been a little bit of a look at who Hotep Jesus is.
		He is clearly a Twitter buzz marketing scam kind of guy who sells a book about that stuff, which he's doing quite well.
		I mean, one of the goals.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's doing well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, one of the goals of his book is it tells you how you can use influencers for your advantage.
		Him being on Alex Jones' show and being like, hey, wouldn't it be great if we yelled together is exactly him doing that.
		Oh, yeah.
		He's using Alex Jones in a way that's probably spelled out in his book.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, he's nailing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's probably going to take that clip and use it as a selling point for his book.
hotep jesus ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, like, that's the kind of hustle he's in, while at the same time, he's pitching this black nationalism and white nationalism should merge, and then we can all live separately hating each other, which I find to be a very unpleasant and unattractive future.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go with he's being disingenuous.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure he is, but I will say that he's stupid, and we'll deal with that in this next one.
hotep jesus ▲ ● ▼		It's inaccurate, but they don't plan parenthood.
		They plan death.
		And if you look at what they provide for women, period, the only thing they provide for women are prenatal vitamins.
		The rest is abortion.
		They should just call it the abortion clinic.
		They're not planning any parenthood.
		They're planning death.
unidentified		And where do they stick them?
hotep jesus ▲ ● ▼		They take them and they put them in Pepsi.
		That's what they do with the babies.
		They put them in Pepsi, they sell them.
		They sell the body parts.
		They sell the stem cells.
		And then they make money off of the black babies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You drink babies.
hotep jesus ▲ ● ▼		Planned parenthood makes more money off black babies than black people do.
hotep jesus ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure of that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how you can make money off of black babies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what the black community would like to make off black babies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
		I don't know.
		Six figures?
		Like, what are you hoping to make off of your black baby?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've talked about the Pepsi thing, about the idea that there's research that is done that ends up using some endometrial cells.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I remember the Coke versus Pepsi taste test.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all a load of bullshit.
		So he's making a pretty bold claim there that all they do is give people prenatal vitamins and stuff like that.
		It's too vague.
		It's too vague for me to really work with.
		And thankfully, Hotep Jesus drops this on us next.
unidentified		All right.
hotep jesus ▲ ● ▼		Real quick, before we get into that, I just want to touch on this one stat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
hotep jesus ▲ ● ▼		So check this out, right?
		This is according to Planned Parenthood.
		They have 17,419 instances of prenatal care services versus 3.5 million STD tests and 323,000 abortions, right?
		So prenatal care services only account for about 5% of their services.
		Only 5% of their services are for Planned Parenthood, and black people are backing this.
		This is an atrocity.
		I did a story about this.
		It's called Planned Parenthood Wants to Kill Black People on OTEFNation.com.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope, they don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So what do you think about this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I suppose it is the, like, feather in the cap of white racists trying to be not racist while supporting racist policies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, I've heard my dad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can you talk me through that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've heard my dad quote that, like, did you know that Planned Parenthood kills more black people than blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, like that whole thing where it's like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex does that all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has that reverend childress on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		No, you're couching your white supremacy in like care.
		And it's insane to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're calling giving black women health care murder.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When you do stuff like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're implying in some way that people are forced into it or something like that, which is ludicrous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's a brilliant, dumb thing to say because that assuages the, am I a racist?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think I am that white racists have.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's like it's trying to repackage a belief that you already have because you're mad and hate women, which is got to get rid of Planned Parenthood.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And now you're repackaging that into like, also, I'm pro-black.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, what it is, is it's the God saying that black people should be slaves.
		That's what it is.
		It's that all over again.
		No, no, no, you don't understand.
		It makes them happier if they're slaves.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Submit to the authority as God's will.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what you really should be doing.
		That's the way to be happy.
		Don't fall into this trap of like, oh, yeah, freedom.
		You're bad at it.
		Like, it's condescending.
		It's racist.
		And it's all couched in this language of like, you're being neither of those.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's an interesting approach that you have to it because the truth of this is very different.
		And that is that Hotep Jesus is getting this information from a video put out by a group called Live Action.
		They publicize these statistics in a dishonest way, completely out of context, specifically to attack Planned Parenthood.
		Well, it's true that a report came out covering the time of 2014 to 2015 that reported from eight Planned Parenthood locations that were surveyed, 17,419 instances of prenatal services were reported.
		However, it does take into account that not all of the Planned Parenthood locations in this country are equipped to provide prenatal care.
		And that is not really the primary function that Planned Parenthood offers.
		And it is never claimed to be what they offer.
		It is only a thing that's available at certain Planned Parenthood locations that have the specific doctors and the resources in order to afford prenatal care.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say, when you think about it, prenatal care is really hard to give.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's not their primary objective.
		Further, these statistics are a classic case of cherry-picking.
		Assuming that the 17,419 number does cover all the prenatal care that Planned Parenthood offers, again, the report was only covering a cross-section of some of the locations.
		It was like eight out of the 56 that they surveyed, something along those lines.
		And so there are probably more than that in the country, but it wasn't caught up in their story.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		But assuming that that's all of them, let's assume that.
		Hotep then compares that to the approximately 324,000 abortions reported in that timeframe nationally by Planned Parenthood, which he then uses to assert the prenatal care is only 5% of the services offered by Planned Parenthood.
		What he's trying to do is get the listener to assume that abortion must be most of what they offer.
		This is not true.
		He even admits when he's talking about that that the report reflected that Planned Parenthood offered 3.5 million STD tests.
		But what he fails to point out is that in addition to that, they provided 682,000 cancer screenings and almost 3 million individual cases of contraception services.
		These people, like Alex Jones, like Hotep Jesus, who make these attacks on Planned Parenthood, fucking know this.
		They know damn well what abortion is Planned Parenthood does, and they insist on lying about it, not because they so sincerely want to get rid of abortion, but because Planned Parenthood offers an essential resource whereby women can be in control of their bodies and thus their own lives.
		They use images of fetuses and terror stories about Kermit Gosnell purposefully, purely to further their real goal, which is depriving women of agency.
		So, all this information that Hotep Jesus is using comes from a group called Live Action.
		Live Action is an anti-abortion group started by then 15-year-old Lilla Rose, who got her start posing as a pregnant teenager in James O'Keefe's stunts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Posing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She pretended to be pregnant.
		She was a teenager.
		I guess half of it was true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, imagine if she was pregnant.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet she would be on the other side.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I bet you wouldn't have been going along with James O'Keefe's stunts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet she would have been just going to Planned Parenthood.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a fascinating thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I didn't even think about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, probably.
		So she hung out with James O'Keefe.
		They made a couple of videos, and then she met a guy named David Daleden, who we've talked about before.
		He's the guy who ran the Center for Medical Progress stunts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, those are great things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In 2015, that Alex Jones was completely tricked by.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They nailed us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He then became Lilla's director of research.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As is the case with all of the work of these involved parties, O'Keefe and Daledon, the finished edited product is always a complete misrepresentation of the raw footage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As proven by courts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Many people also, beyond courts, even, like some of this is just people who have seen all the raw footage.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're like, this is absolutely not the case.
		You're misrepresenting everything.
		And that's the case with live action.
		That's the case with James O'Keefe with Project Veritas.
		That's the case of the Center for Medical Progress.
		It's all the same shit.
		So Hotep Jesus is just coming in, misrepresenting this stuff.
		Like, even if he wasn't getting this information very clearly from an anti-abortion propaganda outlet, he's still misrepresenting it in terms of like the main thing that Planned Parenthood is about is preventative care.
		They're not like they offer prenatal services in some places where they can, but that's not their main emphasis.
		That's for like doctors and hospitals.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's for OBGYNs where they practice.
		It's about preventative care.
		And when you look at the almost 3 million cases of contraceptive services that they offer, when you look at, and even take away the reproductive aspect of it, 682,000 cancer screenings that are crucial for women.
		Crucial for cervical cancer.
		It's insane.
		Like the idea that you would take, like, and when he wants to talk about all this stuff and say, like, oh, prenatal care is only 5% of this stuff.
		I mean, what percent is the abortions when you have 300,000 or so abortions and then 3 million contraceptive services?
		3.5 million STD tests.
		680,000 cancer screenings.
		All of that dwarfs the abortions that they do.
		But you don't want to talk about that.
		You don't want to talk about that because that's not what you care about.
		That's not what they care about.
		They care about disenfranchising women.
		And I know why.
		It's because this next clip.
hotep jesus ▲ ● ▼		Straight white men, straight black men are under attack.
		We have become public enemy number one in the eyes of the because we're the potential leaders.
		Because we are the potential leaders, because we are the ones that can actually protect people from the globalists.
		So they have to get us out the box out the paint ASAP.
		And they're using feminists to do this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		They are using.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're using.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody's ever, ever capable of acknowledging that women have agency.
unidentified		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't seem like it.
		Nope.
		And it's condescending just to them.
		Like you could.
		I mean, your obvious point is like, well, we don't want women to have agency over this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You just say that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They could just say that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and that's exactly what their base wants to hear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it would be interesting to see what kind of support it would get.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it wouldn't poll great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, the support that separating children from their families get is ridiculously high.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Conservatives are fine with it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, conservatives are fine with you saying whatever it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what we've learned.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would be...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What we've learned from this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You've introduced a fascinating thought to me, which is something that I regrettably.
		The amount of time I spend with this stuff, you'd think this thought would dawn on me.
		But you have just made me realize that probably if you polled a bunch of really distasteful things, like women shouldn't choose stuff.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You'd probably see the same numbers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very disappointing numbers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Same numbers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		White women would probably have drastically high.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They would have 50%.
		Whatever Doug Jones got in his election, what was it?
		Like 57% of white women?
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly how many women would support women not being allowed to choose stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Doug Jones was on the good side.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're talking about.
unidentified		Oh, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about the other guy.
		My bad.
		My bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He who shall not be named.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Doug Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Doug Jones was the guy who won.
		Yeah, yeah.
		By the hair of his neck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
		That's a really fucked up thought experiment.
		I actually would be interested to see that.
		I don't know if anybody's polling that sort of stuff.
		Like the idea of like, blacks shouldn't have rights.
		We should all live separately.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why wouldn't they?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Women shouldn't be able to choose when men say otherwise.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It seems like that's such a more important thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not a gay as a phase.
		Like, pull those sorts of things.
		Because I imagine the numbers would be.
		We wouldn't want to look at them.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can we, like, let's not pull dog whistle questions.
		Let's just poll the questions that these people.
		Let's just poll this guy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like, why?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like why are they dog whistling?
		We already have a president who's like, okay, the Central Park 5 was innocent.
		Fine, but we should still kill him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jehovah's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, why even mother?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Credit, I don't think he's dog whistling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's dog whistling a little on Alex's show because he knows there's more people listening.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's influenced.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But in his, yeah, he's trying to get the influence rubber.
		But like in terms of his actual stuff that he puts out, I don't think that there's any bones about it.
		Like, I think he's being very clear.
		I hate the Jews.
		They're behind everything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And white nationalism is fucking cool.
		Black nationalism and white nationalism should merge.
		Let's all live separately.
		So I don't think he's dog whistling at all, except, again, being good at media.
		He's savvy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whereas Alex, his whole entire existence is about the dog whistle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just stop it.
		Everybody's proven that they're fine with it, so just fucking go whole hog.
		Let us just at least see what it is.
		Because I guarantee that, yeah, just like I'm saying, 57% of white women are like, I'm against white women being able to choose things.
		We should be in the home barefoot and pregnant.
		What else do you say at this point?
		Because you can't possibly believe that women should have the right to choose anything if you're voting for the people you're voting for.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It does seem that way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It seems that way, but you also have to consider the willful ignorance of so many folk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That part, you take morality away from it a little bit.
unidentified		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There are so many people who just vote on hot-button trigger issues.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a mess.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a fucking mess.
		I don't know what we're doing.
		That's the thing.
		There's just no communicate.
		You can't do it.
		You can't fucking do it.
		Let's bail.
		Dan.
		I've been thinking you and I are officially seceding from the union.
		Knowledge fight is the first independent republic of Dan's apartment.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You should try and call the White House again.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How do I register?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Call the White House a hell of a secede.
		Or call Larry Nichols.
		Don't call Larry Nichols?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't want to call him Larry News.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not too late.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to call Larry Nichols.
		I want to say that.
		I just don't want to talk.
		If we're going to do this, we have to plan in advance.
		I have to call him and set up a news.
		I can't just call him out of the blue.
		The last time we set up a time, we did the whole thing.
		Look, Dan, you don't know how media works.
		First, I have to call all the Jews together.
		They have to get into a meeting room.
		It's so many people.
		Netanyahu's wife is there.
		She's the corrupt monster.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So we have to do that whole thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Then I get to call Larry Nichols.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this episode has been mostly Alex doing his tease work, his edge play about the Supreme Court.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a great way of putting it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we've ended up with the orgasm that is Andrew Napolitano.
		Certainly hope that is not what comes to pass, but I imagine it probably is.
		I think it'll probably be floated, but I really hope everyone's smart enough to just be like, let's shut down the government.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not anymore.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's fucking stopping.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not anymore.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we'll see.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's a coward under Nancy Pelosi.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The world cannot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I say the world can't get darker, but it certainly can.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's on its way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It can get that darker.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan, the world gets darkest before the dawn.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it doesn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that dawn is surprisingly climate change.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So the world will get very dark, and then we will all be burned alive by the light.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it's interesting that you brought up earlier the Central Park 5 because how can that possibly come up?
		Because we have one more clip left of Alex talking to Hotep Jesus.
		And this, boy, this is one of the lamest things I've ever heard.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The black community, going back 30, 40 years, knew that Trump was actually just pro everybody.
		He likes everybody.
		And that, yeah, and then they now try to demonize him from the corporate level.
		But deep down, everybody that's known Trump knows that's not true.
unidentified		Yeah.
hotep jesus ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		The black community knows it's not true.
		For the most part.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For the most part.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy, black community.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to pull the black community that we're not allowed to live in his buildings.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to pull the black community certainly who are aware of the central part of the world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But who was it that pointed out that the first time that Trump ever was in the newspaper was because the government, because Nixon's Department of Justice was like, whoa, you're being way too racist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Too much housing discrimination.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nixon.
		Nixon's the godfathers of redlining was like, Jesus, this is too racist.
		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's his whole career.
		That's his whole life.
		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a white supremacist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And everything you've always heard from him over the years, over and over again, about eugenics, about his genes being superior and stuff like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like the idea that 30 years ago, black people knew they fucking knew he loved everybody.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He loved everybody.
		He loves everybody.
		He's not in his apartments.
		Come on.
unidentified		Look, I love you, but out there somewhere else.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		It's that mentality that Alex believes.
		It does come.
		This is another point where I think we're going to have to just suck it up and swallow a brutal pill that is this isn't hypocritical because this still follows Alex Jones' belief in like free association.
		So like I think he would say it's not racist that Trump doesn't want black people living in his buildings.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the right of free association.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not homophobic that they don't want to make a fucking cake or whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's fine.
		It's no big deal.
		Civil Rights Act doesn't exist to Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Boring.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		LBJ was terrible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He killed Kennedy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He did kill Kennedy.
		And then what?
		Did he jerk off over his corpse?
		I believe that was on the plane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Something along those lines.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why his brain's gone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, this has been our attempt to talk about modern-day Alex Jones.
		I feel like none of us enjoyed this all that much.
		Although I love the mythology part.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know you did love that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will say that that is one of the only things I enjoyed.
unidentified		I love it when he brings up something that I can be like, ah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That you can really sink your teeth into.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not just with research, but with like years-long in-depth study.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You should have seen.
		So I'm doing this in-depth breakdown of Non-Dare to Call It a Conspiracy.
		Yes.
		And at one point in it, Gary Allen, the writer of Non Dare Call a Conspiracy, talks about Diogenes.
		And he talks about how he was going around Athens looking for one honest man, which is the myth about Diogenes.
		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because we all know his day from IT.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so much fun whenever people pull that out because I know Greek.
		I can translate the Greek that it comes from.
		And it does not say that.
		He is absolutely not saying that.
		Diogenes was a fucking weirdo in the same way that Socrates was a complete weirdo.
		But Diogenes was even worse.
		He would masturbate at the marketplace and scream at people.
		He was into cannibalism.
		He didn't believe in private property rights.
		He was just a fucking out there weirdo.
		And when he, the line that everyone mistranslates, I'm going around looking for one honest man.
		What it really translates to is something that I would describe as what a crazy person would say.
		He was walking around at night with a lantern looking for a man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The word for honest and just in Greek is diakos, and it is not in that sentence.
		It is just anthropos, which is, I'm looking for a man.
		Which is what you would say.
		Like, if you're caught out somewhere where you're not supposed to be, what are you doing?
		Looking for a guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm looking for one hungry man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm looking for a guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I need somebody to eat with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am looking for a man to eat.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I just love all this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Looking for a man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So whenever things like that fall into my sphere, I really get excited about it.
unidentified		But the rest of stuff is like, fuck all this noise.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't care.
		There's nothing for me to debunk.
		There's nothing for us to talk about in terms of Andre Napolitano being a Supreme Court justice other than us saying, hope that's not the case.
		Because I don't know what fake sources he's going from.
		Obviously, it's just talking to Roger Stone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't debunk his conversations with Roger Stone.
		It's useless.
		All I can do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's like him saying that Our pio is up for the Supreme Court justice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Might as well be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, fucking sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's no, there's no bottom.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We don't have a bottom anymore.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
		No.
		But the value of the past, when we go over the past, the value of it is that we get to have distance.
		We get to have time from his narratives.
		So we can see how things have played out.
		Is this the case?
		Was he completely full of shit?
		We can find the things that he was referencing.
		We can see how it all worked out.
		We can see.
		I was going to say what he's right about, but it's almost never the case.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there is that perspective we can take on it.
		Whereas modern day stuff, we run into an issue where he's lying all the time.
		We know it.
		It's what he does.
		That is what we know.
		But he's saying all this stuff that we can't prove or disprove.
		It's this mid-ground nonsense where we're just like, all right, he's saying this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		As a show, though, it is, I feel, important to share in the contrast.
		Like, if you are preemptively or perhaps even somewhat defensively saying that we are doing a disservice by covering the present.
		I don't mean because we're not.
		I'm not.
		No, you're not saying that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't mean to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're not saying that.
		I misspoke on that.
		I mean, just more like, this is why we're not covering the present.
		I feel like it is still important for us as a show to go back into the past, which provides context for the present.
		And then we can come back to the present, what, once a week or whatever, and see what the difference is.
		Because you can just hear it.
		If you listen to this episode versus our last 2009 episode, you will instantly know there's a huge difference, and yet it's the exact same.
		And here is why, and here is where, and that only gives you more ammunition.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is value to it.
		I'm not saying we should never do it.
		It is just a situation where, I mean, I'm a human.
		I'm a human being.
		And it's not like it pains me to listen to modern-day stuff.
		It just bores me.
		You know what I mean?
		I think that a lot of people on the Facebook group have the impression in their head that it's like I get all up and I can't handle.
		That might be too much.
		But it bothers me to listen to modern-day Alex.
		And it doesn't.
		It just feels like I'm wasting time.
		That's it.
		I just feel like I listen to an episode like this, and I have this.
		This takes three hours to listen to.
		And then edit takes even more time.
		And then us doing this.
		And in it, the only value really is like, we met Hotep Jesus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex misrepresents mythology.
		Like, beyond that, all the other stuff is just him yelling into the void.
		It's nonsense.
		It's just sound and fury signifying nothing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		At the same time, we're just yelling into the void.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, totally.
unidentified		Why can't we yell into the void with the guy who's yelling into the void?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like fucking Goku.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But here's why.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it gets repetitive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's the same stuff we've yelled into the void about over and over again.
		We're still trying to do a show.
		And when it's like he says, like, the globalists are central banking cartels, blah, blah, blah.
		You know, like, we've already talked about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We can do it again if you want.
		I want novelty.
		I want to learn.
		And I want more fresh content for the show.
		Right.
		I enjoy as much.
		Like, I don't mind, like I'm saying, I don't mind listening to present day stuff, and I don't mind covering it from time to time.
		But like it takes hours of my day that are fucking wasted when I listen to like the other episodes that I listened to that we didn't cover.
		Like that's a that's a three-hour waste of my time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I totally get it.
		I can't.
		I'm not mad about that.
		No, no, no.
		I'm not saying that you're mad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm more saying that for the listeners.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I get what I'm not.
		We've been doing this long enough that I know what you're really saying.
		No, I feel the same way about the right-wing outrage.
		Like anytime I check Twitter or read the news where it's like, Fox News said, I'm out.
		I don't give a shit.
		They're boring.
		They're boring to me because they're just going to say, if you were like, what's your Fox News headline?
		I'd be like, blank is evil because blank and liberals blank.
		Like, it doesn't fucking matter.
		They're playing Mad Libs.
		I get it.
		I understand that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anti-communist Mad Libs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And here's a further piece that you need to really take into consideration.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones, in his worldview, what I mean by that is marketing paradigm, is he has to be under threat.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a really great way of putting it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has to be under threat.
		There always has to be a threat, otherwise he can't sell his ship.
		In the same way that, like, think about this.
		He sells disaster supplies and stuff like that.
		If the end actually...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Does he sell a year's worth of food, though?
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, he does.
unidentified		Does he?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Does he sell a year's worth of food?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's the bonus on it, though?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't do ads for it on the show anymore, but you can buy a bucket of food.
		You can buy buckets of food.
		Not the same shape of bucket as Jim Baker.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's good.
		Branding is important.
		Branding is important.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jim Baker's got that round bucket.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I choose Jim Baker's bucket.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is something that I've been thinking about since we did that Jim Baker episode, especially, and that is that the con of disaster preparedness only works until the disaster comes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, once it happens, you no longer have a cash flow.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Your disaster is shared the same way everybody else is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, if you sell survival radios and Jim Baker's big old potato buckets and stuff like that, if shit goes down, your supply chain is busted.
		Everything is destroyed.
		You can't make money anymore.
		The gig is up, and now you are left to live on all that millions of survival food rations you have at your Pleasant Valley.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, now that kind of does work for me, though, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the game, because we know these are fucking con men and aren't acting off reality or truth in any way, they know that it's not in their best interest for disaster to actually happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's only in their best interest to make people scared that disaster is about to happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the reason I'm bringing this up is that the game that Alex Jones is playing now in his marketing paradigm, which I'm going to now replace.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a perfect.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For real, that is the perfect phrase.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to replace worldview with marketing paradigm.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a great way of putting it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What he needs to do now, because he's shifted his entire operation into this, Trump is the king of the anti-globalist, except for that one night that I said that he was shoving ISIS up his dirty asshole when I was drunk on air.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And except for that one night where he said he was a globalist.
unidentified		Well, that was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So since he's pivoted to that model, what he has to do now is a maintenance game.
		What he has to do is, you know, make fear where you can, but it's just maintenance.
		So, like, he plays this, like, get afraid of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
		Get scared of that because he knows, like, on one level, he knows that it's a threat, that democratic socialism is rising and that they are gaining in membership and stuff like that.
		But he knows that, like, you know what, a little bit down the road, if there's more Democratic socialists, that's fucking good for his business.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he knows, like, let's get a little bit scared about this, but let's not try and get her killed or anything like that, because then that's going to be negative to our interest.
		He's in, like, when I watch, I've watched, like, three shows from this week in terms of, like, trying to make this episode.
		And the thing that I come away from it with is that he is in a pathetic holding pattern.
		He's just like, worse than I've seen in years from him.
		There is just a, like, and I know that in the past you've said he doesn't know how to win.
		And that's probably a piece of it.
		And the fact that he's on the winning team in terms of like they control all of the government.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		you don't know how to it's it's it's he's it's really i'm having a very difficult time expressing this because what it comes down to is you have a conspiracy theorist propagandist who's now his job is keep the base riled but maintain the status quo Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's boring.
		It's boring and pathetic when I watch it.
		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what's fascinating about that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because if he, because, look, sorry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If he wanted to live his principles, as we pretend he has over and over again.
unidentified		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He should be saying, kill Alexandria Orkazio.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He should be saying that she is the biggest threat to democracy and someone should take her out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She's a globalist communist who is trying to come after your guns.
		Beyond globalism.
		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The globalists aren't necessarily even the socialist communist folk.
		You know, like he would like, I don't know.
		I just, everything about the modern day just bumps me out because it's so pathetic.
		It's so pathetic because it's not like I want him to advocate death for people, but he should.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If he believed a damn thing he says he believes, he should be out calling for blood.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's not because he knows that's not how I make money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it just think who cares?
		Because the other thing, too, is like as we see all this information that we talked about at the beginning of the show, like Kim Jong-un is making more nuclear tests.
		Roger Stone, the walls are closing in on him.
		Things are happening.
		The information just keeps seeping out.
		The picture is becoming clearer and clearer of what really happened, not just in the 2016 election, but for years before that.
		And Alex kind of knows and he's like, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but to and this is a conversation that you don't want to have and you really don't want me to start.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		So let's find out.
		Let's see.
		Yeah, so should we.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Calling for blood?
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, realistically, put it all together.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We have an illegitimate government that was assisted by a foreign power, not least of which was put in by a minority of the country that was illegitimately stolen by how much fucking bullshit, all of this gerrymandering, all of this shit.
		We have a Supreme Court justice that should never have been there because it was fucking destroyed by a goddamn civility.
		Yeah, exactly.
		Like, all of this shit put together, it's important to remember that the American Revolution happened because people had to pay, like, two cents more in tax.
		Like, that's all it took.
unidentified		I just throw a pen at you because, no, it was all it took.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Guns.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because they took that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's all it took.
		That's literally all it took.
		Like, legitimately.
		I am bummed out by these protests.
		It's incredible.
		It's fucking incredible to see millions of people walk throughout this entire country supporting immigrants' rights.
		But we saw the same thing at the women's march.
		We saw the same thing at however fucking many marches.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We saw maybe world records of turnouts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		World records of turnouts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And here the fuck we are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Flash forward to the present.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We are most likely going to have a Supreme Court justice put in who undoes access to abortion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So explain to me how it's not justified that we call for blood.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like in the America, just in pure American history.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would say from our perspective, we can't because that's illegal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's technically true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm calling for blood politically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I mean, there is that, like, I mean, we don't have sponsors, so, I mean, who really gives a shit what we say?
		But I do think it's probably we're on the wrong side of the law if we advocate violence against anybody.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A year before we're already on the wrong side of the law just for saying mean things about Trump?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably, but here's the only, and I know, I'm a fucking middle guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, look, it's hard to be a middle guy when the guy to the left of you is saying, let's murder people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm closer to that than the middle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the reason that I have this hesitance about what you're saying is that I know that there's a lot of people who listen to our show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think anyone would hurt anybody, but I worry about the rhetoric that you're presenting only because I don't think that the targets would be the right targets.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If that makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that innocent people should be hurt, and that is what would end up happening if any organization, not just our podcast, if Alex did it, the wrong people would get hurt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would end up in a situation where very innocent people are collateral damage of some bullshit, which is probably right-minded.
		There should be blood in the streets for the situation that we have on our hands.
		Now, Alex believes there should be blood on the streets because of the globalists and the 1913 taking over the blood.
		But the wrong people would get hurt in both equations.
		And I don't like that.
		That's why I'm in the middle in terms of this stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In my defense.
		I'm not saying that you're advocating.
		I know, I know, I know.
		We're both so polite and civil to each other.
		In my defense, I have never advocated for wholesale anything.
		And, in fact, to the point, I have constantly and consistently made the difference between a nation and a government.
		I don't believe.
		That was Russia all the time.
		Exactly.
		I don't think that.
		I don't think that there should be blood in the streets in that fucking whatever conservative stereotype you want to believe, because I'll be goddamned if there aren't a lot of them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We should find Scott Pruitt, find a tall oak tree.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Yes.
		The Koch brothers should have their homes burned down.
		There was a just and loving God, they would not be allowed to go outside while at the same time their house would be burned down with them inside of it.
		That is the reality of the situation.
		And the fact that every day, instead of that, we get fucking people murdering journalists.
		That says to me the very obvious thing, which is that one side has been fighting a war against us for the past 15, 20, whatever, America, for the past all of America.
		And we have never, ever fought back against the real enemy.
		We're not doing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a war of aggression versus a war of attrition.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The two sides are playing different games.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And we can't play different games anymore.
		They won their game.
		We're losing ours.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It sounds like what you're saying is it's time for the long arm of the law to put a few of them down, send them all to their maker.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'll send you a chance to do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, realistically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was trying to use Toby Keith lyrics.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was really trying hard to ignore it.
		Not as an insult to you.
		No, I mean, here's genuinely what I would prefer to happen.
		I would prefer an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez become an attorney general of fucking New York State.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And because what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that the Koch brothers haven't committed fucking crimes?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In New York City?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan, how long did it take?
		Don't.
		Don't.
		Don't you dare do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to give you plus one, and then I'm going to take it away immediately.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I didn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, how long did it take you?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How long did it take us to find out that Alex was committing a crime?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like a concrete crime, it took probably like six months.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It took some investigation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also, I want to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So elect an attorney general that's going to spend six months investigating the Koch brothers from day one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because you can fuck them up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I probably could have figured it out in the first month if I had been appointed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't.
		I wasn't.
		That wasn't what I was trying to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		If you really.
		And I'm not going to lie.
		If you really wanted to take Soros down, fucking start investigating because if you're a billionaire, if you're a billionaire, there's a crime.
		There's a crime that happened.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you'll probably find a crime.
		The only thing that I find so distasteful and dissatisfying about all this is like all the crimes that Alex and his ilk and commenters on our website about it have pointed out.
		Like all of the crimes they allege he's committed aren't real.
		Like I'm sure there are things that he's done that have been shady as fuck.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But they aren't the things that he's accused of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		I don't give a shit if they and fucking put him in prison too then.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not here to defend him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Hillary, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You find a crime.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You find a crime with Hillary?
		Fuck off.
		I don't give a shit.
		You find a crime with Hillary.
		Bill should be in jail.
		These people should be in jail.
		This is a team effort by the rich.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All we're saying here, this has gone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This has gone way off the rails.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Way off the rails.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did we wrap up the episode like an hour ago?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think.
unidentified		You know, like, just put everybody should shake off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's what we can't do ever again.
		We can't have another Solon, and that's what we need.
		I know I keep bringing up Solon because I think he's the best ruler of all time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It can't happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know that it can't, but it is the thing that we need, and that thing is never going to happen.
		And it's weird that the way that you present yourself in your hypothetical dictatorship is very similar to him in terms of like, he was like, I'm going to make these rules, and then I'm leaving.
		I'm out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You should kill me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There should be real consequences for me saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have that parallel there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we need someone to have another scazactesia, the shaking off of burdens that people have.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We need people to be forgiven of dirty debt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We need that to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		That sort of thing needs to happen because back in the days of ancient Greece, it was people who sold themselves into slavery, and now we have modern equivalences of it.
		We have absolutely modern equivalences.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, just fucking short-term cash-for-car loans.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, what else is that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's so many people who are underwater because of college loans.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But the reason that we can't have Solon is because Trump is he sold himself as Solon.
		Right.
		In the same way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's the populism lie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		In the same way that we can't be like, they're coming for your guns and all that shit because the hard right has taken that territory in the same way Trump pretended to be that Solon.
		He pretended to be that I am the guy who is going to fix everything because that's really what you want.
		Because you know, ultimately, no, I know he's like, I don't want to do this.
		I know, but that's what Trump was selling himself as, which is why he did better at it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And again, I'm talking about Solon because I know fucking Grecian history.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's up, Alex?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, Solon did fight the Kraken.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They did.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In Iceland in the 1300s.
unidentified		Yeah, with Liam Neeson.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Man, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how to put a button on this, but I think where we spun off way too far was the idea that you want blood on the streets and not want, but it's weird that it's not happening.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		At the very least, I'm going to go with Pruitt.
		I feel like Pruitt should be murdered in front of everybody.
		He's the most corrupt person I think I've ever seen.
		That's incredible.
		He's really killing it on the guy.
		I almost admire him.
		He's so corrupt.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What we come back to now, what we're talking about, is now this entire thing is just this entire thing, by that I mean the last two years, has been the normalization of corruption.
		All of this, like, corruption is just the status quo.
		Betsy Devos get away with stuff, it becomes more okay that other people get away with stuff, and you get away with bigger stuff.
		And it just keeps going, and it just keeps going.
		And that's what I think that's the trend that we're going to see.
		Now, unfortunately, this is the part that sucks.
		Because if you had a situation where you had just a fucking business Trump, like a Trump who was just like, I want to be corrupt as fuck and make a ton of money.
		You could end up in a really harsh kleptocracy where you have the family businesses at the expense of all other contracts making billions of dollars and stuff like that.
		And that would not be a good state of affairs for things to be in.
		The problem is the merging of that with people like the Stephen Millers of the world.
		Right.
		The merging of that corruption is cool mentality with overt white nationalism, white separatism, white supremacy.
		Those sorts of things.
		And you know what?
		Fuck.
		I don't give a shit.
		Let's just lay it out.
		Everyone who's afraid of Barack Obama being a black supremacist were wrong.
		But even if they were right, it wouldn't have mattered in the same way that it would matter that Trump is a white supremacist.
		Agreed.
		Because Barack Obama, even as president, would have such a tough road to hoe.
		You know, like he would have a really hard time in terms of getting that black supremacy up the hill, much like Atlas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I knew that was coming.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Pushing that boulder up the hill.
		And the reason that it's so scary to have white supremacy merged with power is because it's so already there.
		And such already the state of affairs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like we've never seen it before.
		We've seen white supremacy merge with power.
		You know what it is.
		Everybody knows what it is.
		And we just are afraid to say it because we feel like all of us, not all of us.
		I mean, obviously, there's you and me and the policy wonks and so many other brilliant people, the people who are marching amazing people.
		But the status quo is terrified of acknowledging that.
		Because if you acknowledge that, if you're Nancy Pelosi and you go out and you say, we are seeing white supremacy merged with power, we've seen this before.
		Then all of a sudden, everything that she has ever believed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It behooves you to act in a much more severe way than you are willing to act if you are Nancy Pelosi.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are seeing white supremacy merged with not just power, but monetary power.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that monetary power also supports me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And centralized power.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this terrible surveillance state that we've created over the years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everything blends into each other, and it's fucking terrible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's why Roger Stone and Alex Jones made fun of your beard, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that's really what I wanted to end on.
unidentified		Now that's a button.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex, look, I've been, I've never, over the course of the time that we've done this show, I've never.
		That's not fair.
		I one time did send Alex a private message.
		I DM'd him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, did you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His DMs are open.
		And I DM'd him a gif of Brian.
		Bray Wyatt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I DM'd him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I apologize.
		I DM'd him that.
		But other than that, that was because I was really drunk one night.
		I haven't really made any contact or tried to fuck with him at all.
		But I've been really resisting just tweeting at him, your beard sucks.
unidentified		Because it sucks so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've never been more triggered on a base level.
		I know that I hate his rhetoric.
		I hate what he stands for.
		But when I see that beard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what really gets you.
		I've never wanted to punch him more.
		I don't know why.
		Now I'm excited.
		Because we've done this episode.
		Because I know the beard exists.
		I get to go look at that beard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's such a bad beard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this beard on my face is fantastic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also fantastic is our website, knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Beautiful transition.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you know where else you can find your beautiful beard?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I hear there might be a picture on Twitter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, we are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Also on iTunes, you can find us there.
		Please rate, review, subscribe, all that good stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, that helps people out.
		I guess that helps people find us.
		Yeah.
		Wouldn't it be cool if more people found us?
		I just want to go on.
		I just want to be invited on Fox News as the liberal angry guy.
		It'd be so much fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, the Combs days are over.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It'd be so much fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to be that guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, we've come to the end of this episode, and once again, it's your turn.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it my turn?
		I feel like it's your turn.
		always say it's your turn because i have just realized because i have a never-ending cavalcade of people that i want to tell to go fuck themselves I feel like it really is more relevant to you than me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes I feel like a real, like, someone gets in my craw.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But generally speaking, I feel like telling people to fuck themselves is sort of your territory.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You just can't tap into that primordial anger.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I could, but I think it's better.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan, feel it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's more sincere when you do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan, I see within you the Super Saiyan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Hotep Jesus, go fuck yourself.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a first time caller.
		I'm a huge fan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.

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