Today, Dan needs to save Jordan from the awful flavor of the modern world, so he decides to branch things out and explore a new con-man on the show, the one and only Jim Bakker. To make it relevant to the podcast, the gents discuss an episode of Bakker's show where he talked to frequent Alex Jones guest Steve Quayle about a whole lot of nonsense, but weirdly not much about Jesus.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We are a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Not today. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Not today, Satan. | ||
| Not today. | ||
| All right. | ||
| What do we say to the god of bits? | ||
| Not today, god of bits. | ||
| Not today. | ||
| Today sucks. | ||
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All right. | |
| It's a shit day. | ||
| It is a shit day. | ||
| The world sucks, man. | ||
| The world sucks. | ||
| I don't want to talk about it. | ||
| Everybody knows what we mean. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We aren't a political affairs show, and I feel like any time we try and drift too deeply into those waters, we sound like idiots. | ||
| So let's not do that. | ||
| That's not what this show's about. | ||
| This show's about how I know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| And I don't know anything about Alex Jones. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But I am still calling for a civil war. | ||
| I'm not sure about a civil war, but boy, something. | ||
| Boy, something's got to happen. | ||
| Boy, it's got to happen, doesn't it? | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| I saw your tweet from earlier about stacking the Supreme Court. | ||
| That's going to be the only way we get rid of them. | ||
| Might be. | ||
| Especially since Kennedy is probably going to retire now. | ||
| You better not. | ||
| Oh, yeah, no. | ||
| And Kennedy is an awful Supreme Court judge, but imagine replacing him with another awful... | ||
| We just can't make it worse. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And it's going to happen. | ||
| Yeah, inevitably, any change now is not going to be positive change. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| No, we have to get rid of the, like, it's bananas. | ||
| Yeah, so all such a mess. | ||
| I don't even know what to say. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Hey, we're fucked! | ||
| Because of the, I do know one thing I want to say, and that is thank you to our new donors. | ||
| Nice! | ||
| Yes! | ||
| That is a tasteless transition on my part, but gotta get out of it somehow. | ||
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Amen. | |
| I'd like to thank Timothy. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining up with the team. | ||
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
| We appreciate it very much, Timothy. | ||
| Thank you very much, Timothy, for joining up. | ||
| And secondly, I'd like to thank another new donor. | ||
| What's going on out there, Brett? | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much, Brett. | ||
| Hey, Brett. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| We do appreciate it. | ||
| If you'd like to support the show and the things that we do, you may do so by going to knowledgefight.com, clicking support the show button. | ||
| We would appreciate it very much. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And every policy wonk will be a non-commissioned officer in the Second Civil War. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's the rule, right? | ||
| Based on how bad all this stuff is and how, like, just nonsensical... | ||
| The political landscape is. | ||
| Oh, the world is nuts. | ||
| I decided that maybe it's time for us to do something that I've been wanting to do for a long time. | ||
| And actually someone wrote me a message, I think it was on Facebook, and suggested that we do this. | ||
| I don't know if I had the heart to explain to him, but I've been kicking it around for a while. | ||
| Is this an audible? | ||
| Are we audibling away from both Alex Jones and Project Camelot? | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| Will, I know that you and I have had conversations, and I've said this privately to folks. | ||
| I don't know if I've said it on the show or whatever, but I might have. | ||
| The theme of this show is less Alex Jones and the more that everybody is running a con. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| These people are all running a con and they're doing it the same way. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| Not that our listeners need to be told, don't listen to these people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it's kind of interesting to look at how very, very similar all of these... | ||
| Fucking con men are who are just ripping off old people by pushing white supremacy in such a way. | ||
| It's a really successful blueprint. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| And the damage that's being done to the body politic now, we're feeling it in the stuff that we're talking about right now at the beginning of this show. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's the end result of these fucking huckster con men who have destroyed everything and allowed people... | ||
| With ill will, the people like the Stephen Millers of the world, to gain the seats of power that they are in. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Without the huckster con men who really just want to take hold people's money. | ||
| But also probably are bigots themselves? | ||
| No, they are. | ||
| They're all monstrous people, but at the same time, they seem to be chiefly motivated by wanting to grift grannies. | ||
| They're like bigots on the local level. | ||
| They don't want to be the causers of harm along the national scale. | ||
| They're just taking advantage of people who do. | ||
| And then... | ||
| You have the people who get whipped up into a frenzy. | ||
| All I'm saying is don't trust people who want you to listen. | ||
| Trust us, because we're genuinely confused and kind of nervous that anybody's listening to us in the first place. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I apologize for not responding to a lot of emails. | ||
| It overwhelms me emotionally, and I don't know if I can handle it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Especially nice ones. | ||
| That's the part that's the worst. | ||
| Oh, no, we can't do that. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| Oh, please talk shit to us. | ||
| Talk shit to us all the time. | ||
| Bad ones make me feel very scared, but good ones make me feel invalid. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We are imposter syndrome writ large. | ||
| So, speaking of imposters, today what we're going to be talking about, my friend, is Jim Baker. | ||
| No. | ||
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Yes. | |
| No. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| No, we don't want to. | ||
| No. | ||
| We're going to talk about Jim Baker. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because he's awesome. | ||
| What do you mean he's awesome? | ||
| He's so fucking stupid. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| All right. | ||
| He is like, I prepared this episode about Jim Baker. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And all I want to do is watch more Jim Baker. | ||
| Okay, we're doing Jim Baker. | ||
| And I'll be honest with you, towards the end of this, the spirit got good to me. | ||
| Oh no, you're a fan now. | ||
| No, I'm not a fan, but I get it. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| You can see the tricks that he's doing to rev people up about Christ and what have you, just to switch it on you to sell a survival radio or some shit. | ||
| So for everyone who doesn't know, Jim Baker sucks. | ||
| He's a televangelist who's done some time in prison. | ||
| And also, we're going to get into why he's a worse person than just someone who's gone to prison. | ||
| Various things that we'll learn. | ||
| I don't have an out of context drop for this episode. | ||
| What I was going to do is I was going to start with that song that made the rounds that went viral. | ||
| That guy singing about end times. | ||
| I did not hear that one. | ||
| You didn't? | ||
| No. | ||
| I try and avoid anything that's viral. | ||
| Here's the issue then now. | ||
| I'm going to have to pull it up because I decided it was hacky to play it. | ||
| See, now this is why we're in agreement. | ||
| This is why I avoid things. | ||
| I thought it was hacky. | ||
| It's the one thing that most people have seen of Jim Baker. | ||
| It went around. | ||
| It was a meme that got sent around. | ||
| I'll give you a little bit of setup here, and then I'll play it. | ||
| See, I have tried for the past year or two to avoid any and all social media, and I still fucking tweet every now and again because I'm an insane person. | ||
| For me, I tweet once every couple of weeks just whenever I'm so angry and there's no one to yell at around me. | ||
| As long as we're doing the show, I don't need to tweet. | ||
| But we hadn't talked for a couple of days, so I gotta yell something about the Supreme Court. | ||
| That's just my life, Dan. | ||
| That's totally understandable. | ||
| Memes don't get to me. | ||
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This was a... | |
| This is a guy, he's a rather large gentleman in a Hawaiian shirt, and he's apparently... | ||
| Alright, I'm a fan of his. | ||
| I don't know all the details. | ||
| He's either a part of Jim Baker's praise band, or he's someone else who's doing guest vocals, and he's going to sing a song. | ||
| Are you sure he's not... | ||
| What's the comedian's name? | ||
| Fluffy? | ||
| That guy? | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| This guy's white. | ||
| But also, like, this guy's going to sing a song about Jim's various survival products. | ||
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All right. | |
| And I'm not sure if Jim Baker actually speaks in this clip, but he's standing behind Kevin, I love this song. | ||
| I encourage you to write this song. | ||
| I love it when you get inspired. | ||
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I came up with the idea with all the products, and I love the song My Girl. | |
| Actually, I've got to give a shout-out to our bass player, Mark Broder, who also wrote Calvary Hill from Blueberry. | ||
| Mark actually helped me with the line or two here. | ||
| So Mark and I put this together. | ||
| Thanks, Mark. | ||
| Mark's doing good. | ||
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Call right now, and let's get some salt water into your system. | |
| That's right. | ||
| That's what he fucking looks like. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Oh, Christ. | ||
| And this is set to my girl. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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Every day. | |
| All right. | ||
| Come on, people. | ||
| And get the junk. | ||
| De-junk your house. | ||
| He has a weird hat on, too. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| And get up and dance a little. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
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I love summertime. | |
| Oh, no! | ||
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I've got burgers made of beans. | |
| They're never fried. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| Your face. | ||
| I can't deal with this. | ||
| We just have to get to the chorus so that we can cut bait. | ||
| God, the most racist people always want to steal black music. | ||
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I guess you'd say, Jim and Lori, help me be prepared today for end time. | |
| Woo! | ||
| Woo! | ||
| Alright, now, I'm gonna go, I'm just gonna go, I'm just gonna say this. | ||
| I'm just gonna say this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is... | ||
| Absolutely not biblical to prepare for the end times. | ||
| That is against the rules. | ||
| Oh, I didn't think that was... | ||
| That's the Bible. | ||
| I didn't think that was the angle you were going to do. | ||
| You are not allowed to know when it's coming, and you sure as fuck aren't allowed to prepare for it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You're supposed to just shut the fuck up and be a not-shitty person. | ||
| See, now, I thought that your response was going to be, now that is the kind of bullshit we can get behind. | ||
| No. | ||
| My response is, now that is what I call music volume eight. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Like, the version of Con Man stuff that we're used to does not involve pageantry. | ||
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No. | |
| It doesn't involve showmanship. | ||
| It definitely doesn't involve Hawaiian shirts. | ||
| And man, that was so bad. | ||
| That is just so terrible. | ||
| But that made the rounds, and everybody's clowning on Jim Baker for a bit, and that's always fun to see. | ||
| Yeah, that's nice. | ||
| Fuck that guy. | ||
| But there's a part of me that, like, one of the other things that makes me very... | ||
| I'm pretty sure... | ||
| That he didn't think that, like, I'm going to do this embarrassing My Girl cover, and then everyone will give me free press. | ||
| Like, the way Alex trolls the media, I think he was sincerely like, this will really be fun for the congregation. | ||
| I absolutely agree with you. | ||
| And we'll sell some of these bean burgers. | ||
| Boy, the burgers are made out of beans, huh, Dan? | ||
| Never fried. | ||
| Never fried. | ||
| What about refried? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Can't have refried bean burgers? | ||
| We're going to learn a bit about his foods here in a little bit. | ||
| We're going to learn about his foods? | ||
| He's a lot of foods. | ||
| Plural. | ||
| He sells foods. | ||
| So many foods in buckets. | ||
| In buckets? | ||
| We're going to get real deep on a lot of stuff that Jim Baker sells. | ||
| He sells food in buckets? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| There is nothing more Christ-like than putting food in buckets. | ||
| Look, where were the bread and the fish? | ||
| Buckets! | ||
| You said it, my man. | ||
| They had KFC written on it. | ||
| So, I went through, and I was like, I don't know, Jim Baker's been around for fucking ever. | ||
| How am I going to find a starting point? | ||
| And I was like, man, it would be really convenient if someone who's on Alex Jones' show a lot is also a guest on Jim Baker's show. | ||
| Wouldn't that be super convenient? | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| That's totally true. | ||
| That's totally true. | ||
| I found a guy. | ||
| Michael Snyder is a guest on there. | ||
| He's actually going to be on in like a week or so in a new episode. | ||
| But we haven't really talked about Michael Snyder all that much on this show. | ||
| He shows up a bit, but he's usually fairly boring on Alex's show. | ||
| So he doesn't get as thorough a treatment from us. | ||
| But then, guess who I found as a guest on Jim Baker's show multiple times? | ||
| Steve Quayle. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| The moment you said Steve, I was like, holy shit, Pachanik is on... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No, I don't think Pachanik's going there. | ||
| Steve Quayle. | ||
| Steve Quayle. | ||
| Who's Steve Quayle again? | ||
| He actually was on recently. | ||
| He was on Alex's show recently. | ||
| It had been quite a while since the two of them had gotten together. | ||
| He is a guy who's been around... | ||
| Since a long time. | ||
| He's a long time Alex Jones guest. | ||
| He's written a bunch of books about giants. | ||
| Remember? | ||
| Remember this guy? | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The guy who wrote about giants. | ||
| We've talked about him a bit. | ||
| I remember because we talked about I Kill Giants, which is my favorite. | ||
| Steve Quayle is a bit of a lunatic. | ||
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Right. | |
| Alex thinks he's a prophet. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which should lead you to at least suspect on many levels that some of Alex's narratives come from Steve. | ||
| And I think we're going to see some examples of that very clearly thanks to Jim Baker. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| So this actually... | ||
| Before we go any further. | ||
| Conspiracy theory. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Jim actually died in jail. | ||
| He was only in for like five years. | ||
| Tammy Faye just removed all of her makeup. | ||
| And now she's taken over. | ||
| Possible. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Not possible. | ||
| That's the science on it. | ||
| That's what I say. | ||
| Here is the first clip that we get. | ||
| It's impossible to make a clip of the Jim Baker show without some sales being involved because he talks. | ||
| He sells hard. | ||
| He's selling all the time. | ||
| And so this clip starts with him trying to sell Steve Quayle's book. | ||
| Genesis 6 Giants. | ||
| This is a book you wrote. | ||
| And then this one here, what's the difference in this one? | ||
| This is True Legends. | ||
| True Legends deals with all the myths and legends around the world in addition to giants, but it talks about why this subject is covered up by the powers that be. | ||
| The Smithsonian cover-up. | ||
| By the way, they just found... | ||
| Yeah, the Smithsonian cover-up. | ||
| I just heard that on the show the other day. | ||
| It's a Smithsonian cover-up. | ||
| It's a ballroom blitz. | ||
| It's a Smithsonian cover-up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you know about this? | ||
| Do you know about the Smithsonian doing some cover-ups? | ||
| I guess he'll say. | ||
| Nope. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, let's see if he says more. | ||
| They bought every skeleton that is of the Giants, and they bought them up. | ||
| They even had to buy museums just to get them. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Why would they want to do that? | ||
| Because they don't want... | ||
| They don't want... | ||
| Yeah, that's the dumbest thing you've said. | ||
| The truth of the Word of God substantiated in any way, shape, or form. | ||
| What they're going to claim, ladies and gentlemen, is that the aliens created us. | ||
| And by the way, more people have been won to the Lord by finally answering their questions. | ||
| I'll give you a good example. | ||
| When God said to the children of Israel, to Moses, go in and Joshua and Caleb going into the Promised Land and kill every man, woman, and child, people say, how could a holy God do that? | ||
| How could a loving God do that? | ||
| One that wanted to protect... | ||
| The genetic creation of Adam and Eve. | ||
| It was about the promise in 315 Genesis, the Redeemer, Jesus, coming through the true lineage. | ||
| And that's why Jesus is called the second Adam. | ||
| So there's a lot of race stuff there. | ||
| There's a lot of true lineage stuff there. | ||
| That was a lot to unpack. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That was a lot to unpack. | ||
| If I understand correctly, giants are real. | ||
| The Smithsonian is covering them up. | ||
| In order to keep people from knowing that God is real. | ||
| And that Christianity is entirely accurate. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And when you ask, why would a just and loving God tell two guys to murder every man, woman, and child in a place? | ||
| The answer is, uh, because of course, dummies. | ||
| Because he wanted to protect the lineage. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We'll get more into that here in a little bit. | ||
| The lineage of Adam? | ||
| I thought you said the Justin loving God. | ||
| Like, God loves Justin. | ||
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Justin. | |
| What? | ||
| From Justin to loving Kelly. | ||
| So what do you know about the Smithsonian cover-up, my dude? | ||
| Well, the Smithsonian is a museum. | ||
| They bought all the giants. | ||
| And it has a lot of interesting things. | ||
| They have a great website. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Big fans of science and history. | ||
| Pretty sure that's the end of the story. | ||
| In December of 2014, a publication published an article titled, quote, The Smithsonian Admits to Destruction of Thousands of Giant Human Skeletons in the Early 1900s. | ||
| From this article, quote, A U.S. Supreme Court ruling has forced the Smithsonian Institution to release classified papers dating from the early 1900s that proves the organization was involved in major historical cover-up of evidence showing giants Tens | ||
| of thousands of giant skeletons? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| A lot of giant skeletons. | ||
| Tons of... | ||
| It seems like you might just find them. | ||
| And yet, it almost seems too low. | ||
| It almost also seems like any of the people who had those skeletons could have said no to the Smithsonian Institution. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Or they could have been like, hey, I sold these bones to the Smithsonian. | ||
| How much does a giant skeleton run? | ||
| Probably a lot. | ||
| You would think a lot, right? | ||
| Especially if it's part of this cover-up shit. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| You would extort the hell out of the government if you had a giant skeleton. | ||
| You got two options. | ||
| You go to the National Enquirer. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or you go to the Smithsonian. | ||
| I've always said that. | ||
| I feel like the National Enquirer is a wasted shot, though, because they wouldn't pay you that much since they know that everyone's going to think it's bullshit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Anyway, so they'll give you like 50 bucks. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Smithsonian's going to give you 75. That's why they're the good ones. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I thought they were... | ||
| See, now, I assumed that they had destroyed all those bones in the 1900s because that was during the great... | ||
| The bone craze? | ||
| No, that was during the great piñata shortage. | ||
| The bone broth shortage. | ||
| Yeah, the bone broth shortage. | ||
| The giant's bones for the bone broth. | ||
| Devastating. | ||
| One of the strong indications of this being complete bullshit as a story is that it repurposes old... | ||
| Because there's giants! | ||
| Well, there's that. | ||
| It also... | ||
| That seems like it should be a quick one. | ||
| It repurposes old pictures of the skulls of people like Edouard Beaupre who was born with gigantism and was a sideshow performer who died in 1904. | ||
| The article lies about the context of the pictures which makes believing the other stuff a little bit more difficult. | ||
| Also, all Supreme Court decisions are a matter of public record and this one does not exist. | ||
| That one's tough. | ||
| That's tough. | ||
| That's a hard workaround. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this came out on a site called World News Daily Report. | ||
| Oh, the most accurate. | ||
| Here's the thing you need to remember, and this is a great thing for us to be starting on with Steve Quayle. | ||
| Steve Quayle is a religious zealot to the point of believing this. | ||
| In giants. | ||
| Because it fulfills his weird belief about Christianity and biblical literalism. | ||
| Even though... | ||
| The website that he got this from, World News Daily Report, includes this as a disclaimer. | ||
| Quote, World News Daily Report is a news and political satire web publication which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. | ||
| All news articles contained within worldnewsdailyreport.com are fiction and presumably fake news. | ||
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All righty. | |
| All righty. | ||
| So Giants are second-rate the onion. | ||
| That's essentially what we're dealing with. | ||
| He's written a bunch of books about Giants and believes it before this. | ||
| fake article. | ||
| Right. | ||
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But you do see that he's using it as proof of his bullshit worldview, which leads one to believe that maybe he's not on such solid footing. | |
| Now, if he had said that Willie Mays'bones were destroyed by the Smithsonian Institute, I would lose my shit. | ||
| I would love it. | ||
| I'd need a Supreme Court ruling on that. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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And it would be on public record so we could find it. | |
| So towards the end of that clip, what we heard is him saying a lot of stuff about the About lineage. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And about them wanting to stop the lineage of the one true God and what have you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And here is where he gets real... | ||
| How's he going to sell us on the Adam being white? | ||
| Well, this is where conservative politics comes in. | ||
| I'm not sure if he's ever going to actually touch on that part of it. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| But it's implied. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The smugness. | ||
| Here's the other thing, the silence. | ||
| You see, I believe that the silence in the abortion, the world of abortion, led to the silence in the most horrific slaughter known since the Middle Ages. | ||
| Even more so, the Holocaust did in secret. | ||
| We're getting it in, you know, HD every day somebody posts it on YouTube. | ||
| There's no sorrow. | ||
| There's no brokenness. | ||
| And unless I'm misreading the Bible, we're all members of one body. | ||
| And see, that's the thing that's crazy. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| All that stuff is taking place, and I guarantee I can prove this, because of the total contempt for life, every single one of those babies that's aborted, every single one of those brother or sister, and women are being just brutally mutilated. | ||
| New word. | ||
| New word. | ||
| This guy's on cocaine. | ||
| This is bad. | ||
| He's on cocaine or something. | ||
| This is awful. | ||
| I mean, the way he's speaking is crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just jumping around from topic to topic. | ||
| He's, new word! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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What are you doing? | |
| Steve! | ||
| I put him on an eight ball. | ||
| He's both jumping around and yet he's a bit laconic. | ||
| He's a bit lethargic as well. | ||
| An eight ball is just a measurement of cocaine. | ||
| No, it's a mix. | ||
| No, that's a speedball you're talking about. | ||
| Speedball, shit. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| Or like a cheeseball. | ||
| Eight speedball. | ||
| That's a new word. | ||
| You're talking about like heroin and cocaine. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
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Eight ball. | |
| Eight ball's just a measurement, bro. | ||
| I apologize for eight ball. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| I meant speedball. | ||
| Old word! | ||
| If you're not understanding exactly what he's getting at with this stuff about the abortions, he's talking about this sort of fundamentalist Christian idea of every time that a baby is aborted, that might have been the new savior kind of shit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's on that tip to the point where later on he will actually express that it's an effort on the part of people who are pro-abortion to make sure the next Jesus doesn't come. | ||
| To which I would argue that's bad. | ||
| It seems like your religion isn't in as much control of the universe as you think it is. | ||
| It doesn't seem like it's very effective. | ||
| It seems like you should see that coming if you're God. | ||
| You know what's weird about God? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Easily blindsided. | ||
| He missed everything. | ||
| Like the whole Noah thing. | ||
| He should have seen that shit coming a long time ago, but then he had to fucking redo the whole thing. | ||
| Omniscience, friend. | ||
| He etch a sketch to the world. | ||
| It's not a complete omniscience, I guess. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| Anyway, that's troubling. | ||
| Also, that's unfair. | ||
| How come he gets to tell people to go and kill every man, woman, and child in a place, but we can't abort our babies? | ||
| That's fair game. | ||
| You could just say God told you to. | ||
| Look, every good turn deserves an aborted baby. | ||
| You could just say God told you to or something like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You'd sort of get the same credibility as he's trying to appeal to. | ||
| Write it down on some golden tablets. | ||
| People will start believing that shit. | ||
| So, in this next clip, we get what I would call disgraceful misuse of native culture. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| It's kind of a funny way, actually, I'll say that. | ||
| Very few ministries will even address the subject, okay? | ||
| They'll want to show the charts and the graphs, and this means this, this means that, okay? | ||
| And everybody's worried about, is this seventh seal, seventh trumpet, you know? | ||
| And I said, you know, the only thing you need to worry about, you better check with the Lord and make sure your name's written in the Lamb's Book of Life, you know? | ||
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Because, again, we're in a post... | |
| Christian culture. | ||
| And because we... | ||
| God, I wish. | ||
| Who knows the deliverers that were in the numbers slaughtered? | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| And so, Jim, the true legend... | ||
| Will you hold up that picture right there? | ||
| It's hard for people to understand that that's one of the famous Native American legends of literally giants being so big they could carry a buffalo or a bison under each arm. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And listen, that's like having a meal on the run for these guys. | ||
| And Tom came on. | ||
| I don't know if he talked about it. | ||
| And the Anasazi Indians, which lived in Mesa Verde, they were the little ones. | ||
| They literally got wiped out overnight. | ||
| They were eaten by the giants, okay? | ||
| So every Native American legend, and when you spend the time I've spent going through this stuff, that's why the bags are under my eyes, because I don't sleep much. | ||
| Probably from the eight ball. | ||
| Speedball. | ||
| Speedball. | ||
| I would say, if you've spent a lot of time with this, one of the first things you should have come up with is that Anasazi is an offensive term. | ||
| You're not supposed to use that term. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| The appropriate term for that population is ancestral or ancient Puebloans. | ||
| The reason for this is the term Anasazi is a word that comes from the Navajo language, meaning enemy ancestors. | ||
| For obvious reasons, the modern-day Puebloans do not want to be primarily referred to as the descendants of enemies. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Yeah, that's a solid... | ||
| That's an airtight argument on their part. | ||
| Yeah, it's because... | ||
| It's an airtight argument. | ||
| It's because, like, the first people who went through the... | ||
| Like, the first white folk who went through those areas were along with Navajo. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| And they were like, this is where the people we hated were. | ||
| They had the translators. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, there's that. | ||
| You had a Navajo translator with you. | ||
| You didn't have a Pueblan translator with you. | ||
| So, you got the biased version of it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Of course. | |
| So, I mean, you should have figured that out with any time. | ||
| Cursory. | ||
| Cursory Google search. | ||
| Or you could specify what legend you're talking about here with the giant who's picking up a fast food bison. | ||
| Now, here's another question. | ||
| If there are current Pueblans, how is it that the ancient ones were all eaten up? | ||
| Well, because they weren't. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| There was some dispersal from that population that went out to other areas. | ||
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Right. | |
| Well, when the giant eats him, he throws the other one away. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's like wings. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Yeah, you don't always finish him. | ||
| One for me, one for you. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Also, when you want to appeal to legend in terms of factual stuff, and being like giants exist because Native American legends include them, I'd like to ask you, what about Huitzel, the Aztec water monster whose name translates to water possum? | ||
| Quote, it looks something like a large stylized possum, only with a hand at the end of its tail, which it uses to drag people underwater, kill them, and eat their eyes. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| Fun. | ||
| So is that real? | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| Is that real, Steve? | ||
| I'm way on board with that one. | ||
| Hey, Steve, is that real? | ||
| I would rather that were real than Giants any day of the week. | ||
| If the Smithsonian is hiding that shit, Supreme Court! | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Bring it in! | ||
| It'll be public record. | ||
| I'm just a huge fan of the gullibility, the inherent gullibility that you can just hear perfectly whenever a dumb person on TV goes, wow. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| That was all she needed. | ||
| She heard that and she was done. | ||
| She was like, wow, that must be true. | ||
| He said it. | ||
| That's Jim's new wife, Lori, who is along for the ride and making a lot of money off these people. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Also, I want to talk more about Native American legends. | ||
| I thought you might. | ||
| What about the Sioux people who viewed the coyote as a trickster figure? | ||
| Are we going to assume that the government is covering up that coyotes love to do pranks? | ||
| That's actually true. | ||
| Oh, what about Rabbit Boy, the folk hero of Sioux mythology? | ||
| Which is clunkily named. | ||
| It was born from a clot of blood and raised by rabbits. | ||
| Rabbit Boy? | ||
| Rabbit Boy. | ||
| Rabbit Boy. | ||
| What about the Chippewa and their Windigo? | ||
| The man-eating spirit into which you will transform when you die if you commit various sins on Earth. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The Windigo. | ||
| Fought against one of those in a Final Fantasy game. | ||
| What about the Anyway? | ||
| The, quote, giant man-eating skunk monster that killed people with its poisonous spray who, after its defeat, became the origin of ordinary skunks. | ||
| I mean, that makes as much sense as anything else. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Where do skunks really come from, Dan? | ||
| Like, really. | ||
| And you weigh. | ||
| I mean, like, where do they come from, though? | ||
| There's only one explanation. | ||
| France. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| So what I'm getting at is, like, legend is full of stuff that doesn't really track with modern, real reality. | ||
| It's almost like you shouldn't put your faith in... | ||
| Just old myths. | ||
| Myths from a time before science. | ||
| You shouldn't put your faith into things like a Wendigo or a Jesus. | ||
| You shouldn't put your faith into those things because it's dumb. | ||
| I think that Jesus is closer, though. | ||
| There's supernatural aspects to his story and stuff like that, but like... | ||
| Look, if the next Jesus can be aborted and the whole game is up, then fuck off. | ||
| I'm closer to that than a windigo, though, or rabbit boy. | ||
| But a rabbit boy, actually, I mean, besides the part about being born from a blood clot, the part about being raised by rabbits, that's just like a feral child. | ||
| That's not really all that. | ||
| Anyway, my point is that Steve Quayle's an idiot, and that will be reinforced as we go along. | ||
| But the specific reasons he's being an idiot and some of the specific ways he tries to funnel that idiocy... | ||
| Into the messages he puts out is incredibly important. | ||
| And it's important to remember that he is someone who Alex Jones views as a prophet. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Basically as a, like, this guy's a genius. | ||
| So before we go any further, we can say with confidence, Jim is conning people. | ||
| He doesn't believe in fucking any of this shit. | ||
| Well... | ||
| He's Jim Baker. | ||
| Well... | ||
| He's already... | ||
| He's played the game. | ||
| Well, I mean, we'll get into more specifics about Jim Baker, but... | ||
| He's a vet. | ||
| In case you need to reinforce that he's a con man, listen to this. | ||
| This is the first of his commercial breaks. | ||
| We'll be right back with more of the Jim Baker Show right after this word. | ||
| We're sitting outside of our general store here at Morningside. | ||
| Real quick, Morningside has a general store. | ||
| Morningside is in Pleasant Valley. | ||
| It's an absurd end times religious community. | ||
| Alright, I like that. | ||
| But they have a general store. | ||
| At least they're all together. | ||
| They have a general store. | ||
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That's right. | |
| There's probably more action here than any place at Morningside, I would guess, because it never closes. | ||
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It's a 24-hour store. | |
| I'm going to suggest... | ||
| At the general store. | ||
| I'm going to suggest there's not much action anywhere. | ||
| There's not much action if the general store is the hopping place to be. | ||
| You're underselling Morningside. | ||
| And you can buy food and healthy food or Twinkies probably. | ||
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We do have some Twinkies in there. | |
| A little of everything to eat. | ||
| But you know, the thing that I've been saying over and over again, we need to be prepared for what's going to come on earth. | ||
| So what we need to do is read the word, be prepared so that we can be a part. | ||
| of this amazing time that's going to be soul winning time. | ||
| Amen. | ||
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And so if you're not prepared... | |
| Amen. | ||
| Be prepared now while we have this special going on. | ||
| Now, if you order a year of food... | ||
| How much bonus food can they get today? | ||
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Yes, today, whenever you order one year of food for a donation of $600 to the ministry, you're getting a bonus of a rice bucket and a bonus of sliced potatoes. | |
| And just with the bonus, that's an additional five and a half months of food. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| What measurement is a year of food? | ||
| Is that a lot? | ||
| Is that a little? | ||
| If you go to his website, you can find the breakdowns of everything. | ||
| It's just in servings. | ||
| So you'll have like 500 servings of potatoes or whatever in this bucket. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
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So for $600, you get a year of food. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And there's some variety to it. | ||
| There's like powdered food, like breads. | ||
| Powdered eggs and shit. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| I am hating all of the Doomsday Preppers so much right now because I'm leaning towards them. | ||
| Like, really, realistically right now, I'm like, in ten years, I think I might want some powdered bread. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| I don't want powdered bread ever. | ||
| But there was a thing. | ||
| I mean, since we've started this show, my standard position has been it's probably smart to have some water in the house. | ||
| Yeah, I know, right? | ||
| Like that sort of thing. | ||
| And that's not changing now. | ||
| No. | ||
| But... | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| I had to pause it to let you get a little bit out because this goes much further. | ||
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Ow! | |
| So for a donation of $600, you're getting one year plus five and a half months of food. | ||
| Okay, for two years then, or it could be a year for two people or two years of food. | ||
| You get a double bonus then, right? | ||
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Yes, that's right. | |
| You're going to get two buckets of the rice and two buckets of the potatoes for a bonus of 11 months of food. | ||
| You're getting nearly three years of food for a donation of $1,100 to the ministry. | ||
| And the bonuses is what I want to emphasize. | ||
| The food is the best. | ||
| And then we're adding to it extenders. | ||
| We like to call them food extenders because you can take the rice and add it to almost any of the things. | ||
| Here, let me have... | ||
| This is kind of a recipe list of stuff we have. | ||
| For instance, oatmeal. | ||
| You could add... | ||
| What could you do to oatmeal? | ||
| You could literally put... | ||
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You could put the banana chips in there. | |
| The banana chips on top of that. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| A lot of people have our berries. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| What is happening right now? | ||
| It goes on so much longer. | ||
| They're giving you recipes for food that cost them, what, 45 cents? | ||
| If that. | ||
| A bucket of rice is very cheap. | ||
| What is... | ||
| They're sending you... | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they can only send it by freight, by the way. | ||
| Well, of course. | ||
| That's just cost-effective. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because they're sending you tonnage. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
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If I... | |
| Also, if I understand correctly, if you order a year's worth of food, you get a bonus of one bucket of rice and one bucket of potatoes. | ||
| But if you order two years of food, you get a bonus of two buckets of rice. | ||
| And two buckets of potatoes. | ||
| I mean, it's just standard. | ||
| So it's the same bonus. | ||
| It's standard home shopping network kind of bullshit. | ||
| Why are you pretending that that is an extra bonus? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But this goes on. | ||
| I wanted to play the entire fucking commercial for you. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| But it goes on like another couple minutes where he and these two people that he has, his two salespeople that he's sitting at this table with, they're like, oh, well, you can take the creamy chicken and rice, put some more rice in there. | ||
| Now it's even more. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| They're doing the Forrest Gump shrimp bit. | ||
| More or less, yeah. | ||
| And I love that he's like, you know, they like to call it extenders. | ||
| You put this rice in. | ||
| Why? | ||
| But then he brings up the oatmeal. | ||
| They're like, there's no way you're putting rice in that oatmeal. | ||
| Why would you put rice in an oatmeal? | ||
| No, because he chose the exact wrong thing. | ||
| Because he's old. | ||
| He's like 70-something years old. | ||
| He's crazy. | ||
| He's an old, crazy asshole. | ||
| So, I'll tell you a little bit more about Jim Baker before we get back into the festivities. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I should tell you. | ||
| That a secretary of another televangelist did accuse him back in the 80s of luring her to a hotel and raping her. | ||
| He believed that everybody should serve him because he was serving God, she said of Baker. | ||
| This is a lady named Jessica Hahn. | ||
| Jim's version of what happened when he was called to answer for it is less than satisfying. | ||
| Oh, quote, "I sorrowfully acknowledge that seven years ago in an isolated incident, I was wickedly manipulated by treacherous former friends and then colleagues who victimized me with the aid of a female Confederate. | ||
| They conspired to betray me into a sexual encounter at a time of great stress in my marital life. | ||
| Vulnerable as I was at the time, I was set up as a part of a scheme to co-opt me and obtain some advantage for themselves in connection with their hope for position in the ministry." It sounds like bullshit. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| The guy who set them up, Han and Baker, did say... | ||
| He was a pimp? | ||
| No, on record, he said that Jim had asked for him to get somebody to help make Tammy Faye jealous. | ||
| So that was something that came out before. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And, man, you just look into the details of this and it's pretty horrifying. | ||
| It's pretty fucked up. | ||
| It's Jessica's side of the story, which I believe far more... | ||
| Certainly, in terms of I don't believe him at all. | ||
| I believe her. | ||
| She was under the impression that she was going to go to this convention and babysit his children. | ||
| And then she showed up at a hotel room and he had sex with her. | ||
| They were nowhere to be found. | ||
| And, you know, one of those things. | ||
| Really fucked up. | ||
| So then Jim paid Han $279,000 in hush money. | ||
| Apparently money coming from the funds of his then ministry, PTL Ministries. | ||
| You know what that stands for. | ||
| Praise the Lord. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| After the cover-up of this hush money came out, Baker was forced to step down from his ministry. | ||
| Jerry Falwell would go on to call him, quote, the greatest scab and cancer on the face of Christianity in 2,000 years of church history. | ||
| Coming from the greatest scab on the face of ministries, it's whatever. | ||
| That's like Benny Hinn calling you a little over the top. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| So, in 1988, Baker was indicted on eight counts of mail fraud, 15 counts of wire fraud, and one count of conspiracy. | ||
| He served about five years of his time, and for part of it, his cellmate was a notorious right-wing fuckhead and frequent Alex Jones guest, Lyndon LaRouche, who Baker said was convinced that their cell was tapped. | ||
| Quote, to say that Lyndon was slightly paranoid, Baker wrote in his autobiography, would be like saying the Titanic had a bit of a leak. | ||
| Parenthetically, just a little note, LaRouche was in prison because, quote, on December 16th, 1988, Lyndon LaRouche was convicted of conspiracy to commit mail fraud involving more than $30 million in defaulted loans, 11 counts of actual mail fraud involving $294,000 in defaulted loans, and one count of conspiring to defraud the United States Internal Revenue Service. | ||
| He had not filed a tax return in 10 years, and when asked about it, he claimed to have no income. | ||
| Just a little bit of context. | ||
| At the time, he lived on a 172-acre estate. | ||
| I like that argument. | ||
| Ballsy. | ||
| That is a bold first move. | ||
| So Jim Baker was in trouble and ended up in prison because he'd sold tens of thousands of $1,000 lifetime memberships, which entitled people to a certain amount of stays at a luxury hotel he was building. | ||
| Basically, it was like a timeshare type of scam. | ||
| Yeah, and he never built that hotel? | ||
| Well, he sold tens of thousands of these memberships, but he only ever did end up building one 500-room hotel, which represented massive overselling and was intentionally very clearly fraud. | ||
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| Quote, Baker sold exclusive partnerships which exceeded capacity, raising more than twice the amount of money needed to build the hotel. | ||
| Much of the money paid Heritage USA's operating expenses, and Baker kept $3.4 million. | ||
| Everybody's got overhead, man. | ||
| $3.4 million. | ||
| Everybody's got overhead. | ||
| Skimming off the top. | ||
| A lot of overhead. | ||
| So now he runs this Jim Baker show with his new wife, Lori, and they just tell old people that the world is about to end. | ||
| He sells literally everything he can get his little hands on with the help of Laurie, who reminds me quite a bit of Tammy Faye. | ||
| Yeah, I saw that, and I was not stoked about that. | ||
| So he has this pleasant valley, and it includes the Morningside community, which, it's fucking insane. | ||
| If you go to JimBakerShow.com... | ||
| You can see all of the stuff that he sells. | ||
| There's cozy cottages. | ||
| Oh, that's nice. | ||
| That you can rent a vacation stay in. | ||
| That would be weird. | ||
| He has... | ||
| I would totally do that. | ||
| He has condos that they sell. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They sell. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Or they rent out. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Some of these condos, I've watched other videos of him, he's gesticulating when he's giving the sermons. | ||
| He's gesticulating around that the condos are in the same room as the open door. | ||
| You walk out your front door, you're in the church. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| Basically. | ||
| That's the worst thing I've ever heard. | ||
| It terrified the shit out of me. | ||
| That is ridiculous. | ||
| So then, on top of this, we have, of course, the general store where everything is rocking. | ||
| There's a lot of action there. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| We have an RV park that they have people can camp in. | ||
| That's just smart. | ||
| I don't actually think that one's too bad. | ||
| No, that one's just smart. | ||
| The idea that he's selling property, though, is fucked up to me. | ||
| The idea that these prefab... | ||
| Especially if he's selling them literally in the church. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Boy, the Bible is really strong on that. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty crazy. | ||
| That's like one of the few times Jesus was pissed. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| We got aggro. | ||
| Yeah, that was one of the few times where Jesus was like, I am the son of God and I'm gonna fuck shit up. | ||
| So then also, Lori runs a place called Lori's House, which is crazy. | ||
| They showed a picture of it in one of the videos, and I'm like, what the fuck is that? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's like a fucking four-story giant house. | ||
| It's crazy huge. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's like, if you go to the website and you look it up, the exterior of it is... | ||
| It's pornographic in size. | ||
| It's so big. | ||
| You look through the pictures of it, there's ornate staircases. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| But then every picture of rooms, every picture of rooms that they have are claustrophobic. | ||
| They feel so small. | ||
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Weird. | |
| There's a chapel in it. | ||
| It just looks like, man, if I was in there, it would be so tight. | ||
| It reminded me of rooms where you'd have... | ||
| Surprise meetings at work. | ||
| Like unplanned meetings. | ||
| We just gotta grab this room. | ||
| Everybody just jump inside here. | ||
| So Lori's house is a place of hope and healing. | ||
| Providing a Christ-centered home and support to pregnant women during their pivotal time of need. | ||
| If you want to follow after me, give up your worldly possessions, Dan. | ||
| No. | ||
| No! | ||
| And build a giant house. | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
| You know, on the one level you have the idea that maybe she is doing a service and helping some pregnant women who are in need. | ||
| Doubt it. | ||
| But then the other side of it is you know that this is just a ploy to, like, be anti-abortion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't believe many people are staying there. | ||
| I think that's Lori's literal house. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| That's the hunch I get. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| So anyway. | ||
| Could be there's a floor with very large rooms. | ||
| Could be there's a space where it's wide open. | ||
| There's a lot to do. | ||
| And they keep the giant skeletons. | ||
| So now, it's interesting. | ||
| We've gotten a little bit into Jim Baker's con history and what have you. | ||
| Any right-thinking person would be able to see through what he's doing now. | ||
| Yeah, this is brutally sad. | ||
| It's pretty crazy. | ||
| But one thing that is super important is to listen to him break down some headlines. | ||
| And see if we see any kind of... | ||
| He breaks down headlines? | ||
| Well, it gets into a little bit of news. | ||
| Let's see if we feel like this is familiar at all. | ||
| But the thing is, is that we're seeing now the literal fulfillment of all the events, corruption. | ||
| We see genetic corruption. | ||
| We see it in the news every day. | ||
| You see it in Matt Grudge, okay? | ||
| You see it in the, I would call it the Midas touch of the Illuminati. | ||
| Real quick. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What he's saying there is you see these headlines on Matt Drudge. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| He's not saying that Matt Drudge has been genetically corrupted. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's non-white people, of course. | ||
| But just to be clear... | ||
| It's not. | ||
| We're going to get to what it means. | ||
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| But just to be clear, he's just pimping Drudge shit here on Jim Baker's show. | ||
| It's philosophically inlined entirely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're releasing the information that will ultimately enslave us, okay? | ||
| There's a headline today. | ||
| U.S. scientists creating human-animal hybrids by growing human organs inside sheep and pigs. | ||
| That's literally the exact same headline that Alex Jones brings up all the time. | ||
| And then, can the creation of human GMOs cure genetic disease? | ||
| These are headlines. | ||
| Could the U.S. deploy... | ||
| Cyborg troops. | ||
| Cyborg troops. | ||
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And you've got to understand, these are from sources like Fox News, like The Guardian, CNN. | |
| These are mainstream media sources. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That guy at the end kind of gives up the game a tiny bit in as much as he's saying, like, these aren't from our crazy stuff. | ||
| They're from the mainstream crazy shit. | ||
| Anytime anybody says they're from the mainstream news, it... | ||
| It betrays that they know that their position is kind of crazy. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So I like that a little bit, but this is the exact same stuff. | ||
| This is the same message that Alex Jones is putting out into the world. | ||
| It's the same they have to tell you in order for their victory to be complete or whatever. | ||
| That's a part of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then also the misrepresentation of the Chimera narrative. | ||
| I love the Chimera narrative. | ||
| The Chimera narrative is now being repackaged into a more specifically anti-Christian. | ||
| Message to scare this particular audience. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's pretty crazy. | ||
| You can adapt it into fucking anything. | ||
| You can. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's like jazz. | ||
| Just tweak it a little. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So now we get... | ||
| Is that how jazz works? | ||
| Tweak it. | ||
| Here comes more Giants, baby. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| The hybrid situation is relative to the Giants. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Let me ask you a question. | ||
| No other conclusion to drop. | ||
| I think a lot of people think, well... | ||
| This is a whole lot to do about nothing. | ||
| It's in the Bible. | ||
| It's over and over in the Bible. | ||
| It's many, many places in the Bible. | ||
| Different words used for different giants. | ||
| The giants are children of who? | ||
| The giants are the children of the fallen angels. | ||
| In Genesis, the book of Genesis, the word Nephilim is translated giant in two places. | ||
| Genesis 6-4 and Numbers 13-33. | ||
| After that, every... | ||
| Giant, or land of the giants, or whatever is referred to the land of the Rephaim, okay? | ||
| Nephilim are fallen angels, Rephaim are giants. | ||
| Demons are the disembodied spirits of the giants. | ||
| The demons have appetite, okay? | ||
| Fallen angels don't inhabit people. | ||
| So where did these people, these giants, and then their offspring, they had relationships? | ||
| With earth people. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| The fallen angels. | ||
| Look, and people say, well, why would... | ||
| They misquote a scripture. | ||
| They misunderstand a scripture. | ||
| Oh, they misquote scripture all the time. | ||
| They are neither given or taken in marriage. | ||
| That's in heaven. | ||
| These are fallen angels that came to corrupt the seed. | ||
| And the whole thing was they were trying to prevent the birth of Jesus Christ. | ||
| And now why it's so important. | ||
| And that's the bottom line in everything. | ||
| The reason it's important... | ||
| It's because science wants to do away with the last vestige of Adam. | ||
| What? | ||
| What? | ||
| Why are you pointing at me? | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That was a jump. | ||
| That was a leap. | ||
| That was a leap, Dan. | ||
| I'm going to use my new catchphrase. | ||
| I reject the premise. | ||
| I don't even need to engage with this. | ||
| No, I just mean the leap from, like, obviously... | ||
| Fallen angels don't possess people. | ||
| They're fucking angels. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Don't be stupid. | ||
| Demons are dead giants. | ||
| They have appetites. | ||
| They have appetites. | ||
| And that means that science is trying to destroy the line of Adam. | ||
| That makes perfect sense. | ||
| I have two things. | ||
| One to one draw. | ||
| I have two things to say. | ||
| First is that anytime anybody is going through a laundry list of bullshit and then intersperses, okay, that means that they are wrong and they're an asshole. | ||
| Then second, I know we're clowning around. | ||
| But can we take a second to give a round of applause for how great of an interviewer Jim Baker is? | ||
| Like, the chops. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| The chops on this guy. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He is asking leading questions. | ||
| Stammering. | ||
| He is letting the person talk. | ||
| He's doing great work. | ||
| He's getting one word out at a time, rambling to, what are the giants? | ||
| Also, if you say it's in the Bible, Twice? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't trust you. | ||
| And if you say it's in the Bible a bunch, I really don't trust you. | ||
| And especially if you say it super defensively. | ||
| No, it's in the Bible. | ||
| It's in the fucking Bible. | ||
| It's in the Bible. | ||
| Hey, what are you going to come at me? | ||
| It's in the Bible. | ||
| If someone says that to me, I say, I gotta go. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| It's been real, Jim Baker. | ||
| It's been a delight. | ||
| So, this next clip starts with Steve starting out a question, and I say absolutely not to this question. | ||
| And wouldn't you say to your kids, grandkids, and others coming after us in history that somebody wants you dead? | ||
| No! | ||
| No, I wouldn't say that. | ||
| Don't scare the fucking kids. | ||
| Yeah, what are we, black children? | ||
| In America? | ||
| Why would you... | ||
| Nobody wants you... | ||
| Ugh, let me bum you out. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| But no, they want you dead. | ||
| They want to annihilate you. | ||
| So the word cyborg literally means in central command. | ||
| The military wants to be able to plug into everybody's brains, you know, and run them literally. | ||
| You won't be able to think, you know. | ||
| General, you know, Sick Puppy, that's the one that will probably be running this program, is going to be sitting there on his keyboard or wiping his hand on the screen, and all the soldiers will respond to what he commands them to do. | ||
| This is also further in line with Alex Jones' narrative. | ||
| He should wash his hands before he wipes them on the screen. | ||
| Right now we're getting the idea of these cyborg troops. | ||
| Alex talks about vaccines with nanotechnology that soldiers are given and stuff like that. | ||
| He's talked about the chimera stuff. | ||
| It's pretty clear Steve is responsible for a lot of Alex's beliefs. | ||
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Is this a show about Jesus? | |
| Yeah! | ||
| Man, that's a great question. | ||
| Are we doing the Bible? | ||
| Is this evangelicalism or whatever? | ||
| Man, that's a great question. | ||
| It's supposed to be. | ||
| It's mostly about selling food. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And cyborgs. | ||
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Giants. | |
| And giants. | ||
| Food, cyborgs, giants. | ||
| It's in the Bible, dummies! | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, you might think that if you buy a giant, you get one bonus They Might Be Giants album. | ||
| And a bucket of rice. | ||
| You might think that America was named after Amerigo Vespucci. | ||
| You probably don't. | ||
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No. | |
| You don't just think everything works in cognates like that. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| But Steve doesn't think that either, which is the one thing he's right about. | ||
| He's going to be real wrong shortly. | ||
| Ameruca. | ||
| And you know what it means? | ||
| Land of the plume serpents. | ||
| And interestingly, as we're at land of the plume serpents. | ||
| Now, the Aztec, Inca, and Maya, and they were the practitioners of the human sacrifice. | ||
| I mean, not only babies, everybody went on the sacrificial. | ||
| But they knew that the giants who had come from the east had built their citadels. | ||
| And it's pretty tough to get an Aztec and an Inca to build the great pyramids with basically shells and wood and sharp stones. | ||
| They didn't have metal or the technology. | ||
| So the fact is that this is why it's important. | ||
| Jesus said, you know, we're going to know the truth. | ||
| The truth is going to set us free. | ||
| This is the antidote, and this is a good word, for the poison that's coming out in the press to do away with humanity. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So this is the same trend that we see so often in Alex and in Project Camelot, this diminishing of ancient civilizations. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| How could they build stuff with shells? | ||
| They could never do that. | ||
| Giants needed to be there to build the pyramids. | ||
| Or they weren't pyramids. | ||
| They were, what are they called? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| In Central America? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I don't know the name. | ||
| The Mesoamerican pyramids. | ||
| Whatever it is they're called. | ||
| Most people just call them pyramids. | ||
| Right, but there's a different technical name for it. | ||
| Also, I would say that, like, of the people that I've ever met in my life, met is a strong word, of the people I'm aware of in my life, I bet Steve is probably the most likely to believe in, like, El Dorado. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| The city of gold. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's a medal. | ||
| But Giants built it. | ||
| Oh, Giants must have built it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It was actually made of their bones. | ||
| That's why the Smithsonian Institute destroyed it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's why we can't find it. | ||
| Had to hide it. | ||
| Mystery solved. | ||
| Supreme Court! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, yeah, I just, you know, that's just a classic sort of white supremacist worldview. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| You know, just the latently white supremacist. | ||
| People who came before couldn't do shit. | ||
| Everything else must be proof of aliens, or Giants, in his case. | ||
| Because these dumb people couldn't figure out... | ||
| They had fucking metal. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Who are you talking about? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| That's such, like, Marco Polo's description. | ||
| Like, all of the... | ||
| You know, the old drawings that he had whenever he came back of people who didn't have heads or hands or feet, but they had faces in their chest? | ||
| Like, it was all pretty much bullshit. | ||
| He was making up most of it. | ||
| Oh, that's dumb. | ||
| And people bought it because it's like... | ||
| I've never been there. | ||
| He must be right. | ||
| Like, this is all shit where the guy's like, you don't know anything about the native Aztecs, so I'm gonna lie about him. | ||
| Fuck off! | ||
| I mean, I think we would still be susceptible to that mentality even nowadays if, like, one person went to Mars or something like that. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Like, if one person legitimately we could prove they went to Mars and they were like, yeah, I met a bunch of weird aliens. | ||
| Look, here's a picture of one. | ||
| I drew it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We'd be like, well... | ||
| He was there. | ||
| He was on Mars. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| But it would be the same scrupulous thing. | ||
| I don't think you're telling the truth, but I've never been to Mars. | ||
| Now, here, Steve says something that's really fun. | ||
| And it actually is one of my... | ||
| This was fun to look into. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And you know who the biggest threat to the world at this point is? | ||
| Persia. | ||
| And Persia just announced Iran. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They just announced that they have electronic warfare. | ||
| Any military guys should know what this means. | ||
| They can shut down everything the U.S. possesses. | ||
| And the Russians did it the other day, again, to the Donald Cook, the most sophisticated billion-dollar warship. | ||
| And they basically flipped the switch, and the sucker went dead in the water. | ||
| Not the sucker. | ||
| The ship went dead in the water. | ||
| Probably sucker is really more accurate, because if you've got a billion dollars, someone can throw the switch on you. | ||
| And your multiple weapons platform just goes dead in the water? | ||
| I would guess you're a dead duck. | ||
| Or in this case, a dead Donald Cook. | ||
| That's the name of the ship. | ||
| Was that a joke? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Michael the Archangel needed Gabriel to fight against the Prince of Persia. | ||
| And it said the Prince of Persia. | ||
| Persia, Iran now, said, there's nothing you have that will work against us. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| That's not an idle boast. | ||
| That's not an idle boast. | ||
| What I do, I go, God, one more day for people to repent. | ||
| One more day for people. | ||
| Because we're talking about the end-time harvest. | ||
| And Jim, we're in that position now. | ||
| And somebody was telling me that they've seen angels around this whole area, you know, meaning your perimeter and stuff. | ||
| But God says, I'm going to send my angels. | ||
| And I'm going to compel people to come in. | ||
| I'm going to compel them. | ||
| And those that are, quote, religious, self-righteous, and don't need Jesus, well, they've got their reward. | ||
| They can eat each other. | ||
| And I mean that. | ||
| The figuratively, I hope, not literally. | ||
| That'll come later. | ||
| But the point that I'm really trying to make is this. | ||
| We are in. | ||
| We're not entering in. | ||
| We are in the last days. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, then, I don't think I'm going to need a year's worth of food. | ||
| I don't think I will. | ||
| If we're already there, I think I can bang this out with six months. | ||
| Depends if you're post or pre-trib. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| It depends. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| If you're post, you might need that food. | ||
| As we all know, pre-trib, bullshit. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So, the Archangel Michael fought against Jake Gyllenhaal. | ||
| See, now this is what I needed to fact check. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No, I didn't fact check that. | ||
| I don't care about that. | ||
| So, the USS Donald Cook is a very interesting incident in American history. | ||
| So, the reality of that situation is that in 2014, what Steve Quayle is talking about, it did happen, sort of, but... | ||
| But not at all the way he says it did. | ||
| The USS Donald Cook was making an excursion into the Black Sea when it was buzzed overhead by multiple Russian Su-24s. | ||
| They made a number of passes, which is absolutely not appropriate non-combat behavior. | ||
| In hindsight, it's pretty clear this was an attempt to provoke the ship to shoot down the Su-24s and create a crisis point in the U.S.-European alliance that was standing at the time between Putin and a full-scale grab of the Ukraine. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So that is what happened. | ||
| This idea of the electronic shutdown of the ship is fascinating. | ||
| This is so interesting. | ||
| Yeah, tell me about this. | ||
| So a group called the Digital Forensic Research Lab, I checked them out, and they did a deep dive into this. | ||
| Are they legit? | ||
| Yeah, as far as I can tell, they're fantastic. | ||
| They appear to be a great resource for, well, forensic examinations of where... | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| We did some research into the claims about Donald Cook having its electronic systems disabled because this story was going around, but it also didn't happen. | ||
| So where did the story come from? | ||
| The DFRL found that a number of the almost identical posts on Facebook purporting to be in the form of a letter around the time, in April of 2014. | ||
| I think I can see where this is going. | ||
| In the form of a letter sent by a sailor on the ship to his beloved named Mary. | ||
| They're all clearly machine translated as they reflect very specific types of mistranslation of English and include suspicious details that lead you to a pretty decent guess as to who's writing them. | ||
| Like, quote, we thrice cried hip-hop hurrah and prepared to show the Russians what awaits them if they raise their hand for the second half of Ukraine. | ||
| And we all screamed out, hip-hop hooray! | ||
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Ho! | |
| Hey! | ||
| Ho! | ||
| But did you catch that at the end there? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That it's like we scream to threaten the Russians if they touched more of the Ukraine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kind of get what's going on. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So all these posts link back to the entire letter, which was posted as a Russian-language opinion piece by a guy named Dmitry Sedov, which appears to have been written somewhat in the spirit of lampooning and satirizing the U.S. Navy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Quote, Mary, you can't imagine how we were. | ||
| We've never been so ashamed in our lives. | ||
| Some of our boys bawled like babies. | ||
| Other beat their heads against the equipment that wasn't working. | ||
| The first officer drank down a whole bottle of whiskey in front of everyone and shouted, Those freaking Russians! | ||
| Those freaking Russian cabini, which is the technology of the EMP that's being discussed. | ||
| And the captain was green with rage. | ||
| In this condition, we were barely able to moor the Romanian shore, and right after mooring, three dozen of our guys wrote their resignation letters. | ||
| They couldn't bear the thought that at a decisive moment, our equipment could turn into crap, which they'd have to go to the bottom of the sea with. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, this story was picked up by the Russian state-controlled channel. | ||
| I don't remember the name of the channel, but the show that was airing on it is called Vespi. | ||
| And it aired a piece based on this report by Dmitry Surdov. | ||
| They ran that in 2017. | ||
| The piece was covered by... | ||
| This is three years after. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| The piece was covered by tons of foreign media. | ||
| Not realizing that they were either directly amplifying Russian propaganda or at least covering a satire article that no one realized was satire. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But Steve was on Jim Baker's show in 2016, so he couldn't have learned of this version of the story from The Sun or The Times or any of the articles that came out in 2017. | ||
| So he is learning this straight from the dick. | ||
| He has to have. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's hard to say for sure exactly where it came from, but Sputnik did put out an article on their German site claiming that they'd crippled the Donald Cook in April 2014. | ||
| And this is from the DFRL. | ||
| Quote, Knocking the entire Aegis system out of action, and the ship had, quote, hurried to a Romanian port to restore its nerves. | ||
| By November, Infowars reported on it with the headline, Russians disable U.S. guided missile destroyer. | ||
| Incident skipped over by Pentagon-friendly corporate media. | ||
| Of course, the article is pretty sympathetic to the Russian side. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Russia has condemned the placement by NATO of a radar on the Czech Republic and ten interceptors in Poland. | ||
| Russia is also sending a message in the wake of the United States and NATO decision to confront it over its alleged role in the crisis in the Ukraine. | ||
| So that was by November. | ||
| It could have been that he got it from Infowars, who's getting it from all of these Russian state sites. | ||
| But the only way for that narrative to have existed before... | ||
| Like, The Sun and The Times and then picked up on the story in 2017. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is if he's actively trying to get news from these foreign propaganda sources. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So... | |
| Who's at the door? | ||
| I'm Steve Quayle. | ||
| Oh, God! | ||
| Steve Quayle, you are a disgusting human being. | ||
| Don't say that to me or I'll stick my giants on you. | ||
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Are you really? | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Giants? | ||
| Are they real? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| I got a bunch of them waiting in the car. | ||
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All right. | |
| But tell me... | ||
| It's a huge car! | ||
| It's actually a very small car. | ||
| What you didn't know... | ||
| All giants are clowns. | ||
| They're in the glove box. | ||
| You busted, Steve. | ||
| Go fuck yourself, you stupid asshole. | ||
| I loved learning that stuff, though. | ||
| That was really interesting. | ||
| That's really interesting. | ||
| It's fascinating, the layers of it. | ||
| Like, wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| Oh, that wouldn't make sense if you read the Sun article and just didn't look into it and thought it was true. | ||
| But then the timeline, I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, Steve. | ||
| Oh, Steve. | ||
| Oh, Steve. | ||
| You gave up the game. | ||
| Because in 2014, they tried to push it. | ||
| Like, the propaganda outlets in Russia, like Sputnik and Rosyskaya Gazeta, they tried to push it, but no one picked up. | ||
| No one took the bait. | ||
| And so, it didn't work. | ||
| Then, here, in 2017, when they did it again... | ||
| The same story when they tried to do it again. | ||
| You can see the forensic fingerprints being exactly the same. | ||
| But because the Sun and the Daily Mail, I can't remember the other ones, but other tabloidy kind of publications picked it up. | ||
| It snowballed from there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I don't understand why, if you are doing this, and if you know that it's propaganda, you don't mix up the letter. | ||
| And just rewrite it into, like, for real, just turn it into a civil war. | ||
| Dearest Mary. | ||
| No. | ||
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We stood upon the deck of the John Cook. | |
| Donald Cook or whatever it is. | ||
| They didn't speak English. | ||
| So, like, a lot of it is just, like, you don't have someone on that. | ||
| You have to just automate a lot of it. | ||
| I feel like you gotta have somebody on that. | ||
| You should have someone on that. | ||
| If you're... | ||
| Why are we still giving advice to propagandists? | ||
| Jordan, this just goes to show, though, realistic... | ||
| I mean, of course, information warfare has been going on forever. | ||
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Right. | |
| But this sort of, like, targeted approach from Russia and the figures, the people like Steve Quayle, who's a big influence on Alex Jones... | ||
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Yep. | |
| They are clearly on board with Russia already at this point. | ||
| And you can see from Alex's coverage of it, he's very pro-Russian. | ||
| So they're already beholden to or tricked by the manipulations that are being done. | ||
| So it's like, I don't know. | ||
| Whenever we talk about the, like, what were they doing in 2016, it's like, they were already done. | ||
| They'd already done a lot. | ||
| So now let's get another commercial. | ||
| Just get this out of our, wash this out of our hair a little bit. | ||
| Alright, alright. | ||
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Is that not incredible? | |
| That even comes with a box of heirloom seeds, which is a variety package of 20 different types of vegetables and fruits. | ||
| Yeah, you have a full garden. | ||
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Yeah, a full garden. | |
| And they replant because they're heirloom and they just come back every year. | ||
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And it's a great... | |
| A double blessing. | ||
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Yes, it is. | |
| And then with all of the, if you get the seven years of food, then you have the seeds. | ||
| You can just keep adding all this food and mixing together and you have all this rice. | ||
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You can go outside and pick from the garden, add that in and add the rice and the multipliers in and you have a major feast now. | |
| As someone who eats mostly eggs and rice and vegetables, I would say that's not a feast. | ||
| And if end times were coming and that was it, I'd be like, great. | ||
| Whoopty shit. | ||
| I'd not be excited about it. | ||
| I'd be like, oh, God. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| Something about the way he says food makes me hate food. | ||
| Food. | ||
| It's like seven years of food. | ||
| And, hey. | ||
| It's a double bonus! | ||
| It's a double bonus! | ||
| I don't even know what that means! | ||
| It's a double blessing or whatever. | ||
| Isn't it just a regular blessing? | ||
| The only reason I kept that in is because Alex Jones also sells heirloom seeds. | ||
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Ah. | |
| Gotcha. | ||
| Also, other things in common with Alex Jones, he also sells a silver solution. | ||
| Like, he's probably a colloidal silver of some kind. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Also, he at least shares one sponsor, literally, with Alex. | ||
| The Alexa Pure Air Filters. | ||
| Alex Jones, that was one of his sponsors, that is a sponsor of... | ||
| Jim Baker. | ||
| How are they doing? | ||
| Who? | ||
| Alexa Pure. | ||
| They're probably fine. | ||
| I'm interested to see what their business... | ||
| I'm guessing there's not a lot of taint on them. | ||
| Because they probably just sell through them. | ||
| They're just like wholesalers. | ||
| And so they don't be like, I don't support them. | ||
| We just mark down a little bit and let them take a cut. | ||
| What do we do? | ||
| We sell filters. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| We're not going to bite the hand. | ||
| We haven't heard the Alexa Pure person come on Alexa's show and do limericks yet. | ||
| So until then... | ||
| We'll give them a pass. | ||
| So, here is another harsh similarity with Alex. | ||
| The rhetoric coming out of this clip. | ||
| And all of these things are happening. | ||
| I was so shocked when Tom Horne told me that in every single state, they are experimenting with hybrid human beings. | ||
| Don't worry about who Tom Horne is. | ||
| He's just another time. | ||
| I wasn't worried about Tom Horne. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| With human. | ||
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I want to say sacrifice, but human beings. | |
| And yet, you can't put a Christmas tree in town square. | ||
| You can. | ||
| Just not if it's government property. | ||
| But nobody's stopping those who are doing experiments on humans. | ||
| That's because the people that are making war on Christians want them absolutely destroyed. | ||
| See, this is something that the Christians don't understand. | ||
| We've been given power through the Holy Spirit. | ||
| Nobody talks about that anymore. | ||
| Very few. | ||
| There is no way to deal with this stuff in the natural. | ||
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Is he talking about exorcisms? | |
| You've got a left hand and a right hand. | ||
| Left hand, you've got to prep. | ||
| You've got to have your power, your food, your water, critical. | ||
| The ability to defend yourself. | ||
| By the way, I'm a guy that preaches on the radio that every woman should be armed. | ||
| They should get a concealed weapons permit because I'm going to make sure that the last breath out of my mouth... | ||
| No woman is brutalized by the people that are being brutalized, raped, murdered in Europe, okay? | ||
| And nobody says anything. | ||
| A lot of those are our brethren. | ||
| He was doing so good for me. | ||
| No, he wasn't. | ||
| He had the, I don't want women to be hurt. | ||
| He was doing great. | ||
| And then he said that in your part, and you're like, oh, now I get what you're doing. | ||
| Now we see that you're on that side of things. | ||
| Yeah, now I get what you're doing. | ||
| Okay, you're in that fear camp. | ||
| You're in that propaganda camp. | ||
| I gotcha. | ||
| Great, now you're showing your anti-Muslim colors. | ||
| But you already kind of showed by talking about being afraid of Persia. | ||
| No, that one I got. | ||
| Just the insistence on still calling it Persia is like, come on, don't be a dick, dude. | ||
| The similarity to Alex always going on and on about how we need to arm women is also similar. | ||
| And again, I'm like, I don't give a shit. | ||
| Women want guns. | ||
| Let them have it. | ||
| But I'm not going to jack off about it. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I'm going to let them have the choice to have guns. | ||
| I'm fine with women only having guns. | ||
| I'm pro-choice with women having guns. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The other thing in there was the, like, you know, you need to have your right and your left hand. | ||
| You know, you have your left hand, or you have your prepping and your, you know, all that. | ||
| You got your year's worth of food. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| By the way, double bonus this year. | ||
| But also, I would say it's a fitting metaphor, because generally, you can only use one hand. | ||
| You know, most people aren't ambidextrous. | ||
| You got one hand that's good and the other hand is kind of a waste for the most part. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so, you know, all that prepping stuff is largely a waste. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, I get it. | ||
| Have your right hand do something else. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I see what you're doing now. | ||
| That's just my metaphor. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| This shows your left-handed bias. | ||
| You hate left-handed people. | ||
| Sinister assholes. | ||
| Why did you do that? | ||
| What? | ||
| Why did you force people when you were growing up to write with their right hand? | ||
| No, because in that case, I would argue then that your right hand is useless if you're a left-handed person. | ||
| Everyone should have one hand. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| I said it. | ||
| It's in the Bible. | ||
| It's in the Bible. | ||
| I fucking said it. | ||
| It's in the Bible. | ||
| I'm going to stand on this rock. | ||
| And it should be attached to a tail as you scurry into the water. | ||
| And try and drag people down and eat their eyeballs. | ||
| One hand is all you need! | ||
| Imagine whatever day of the week it is, the power goes down. | ||
| All banking ceases. | ||
| People go to use their ATM cards. | ||
| They don't work. | ||
| They go to pump gas. | ||
| There's no gas. | ||
| Because you can't pump it with no power. | ||
| On a Thursday? | ||
| And the emergency broadcast station comes on. | ||
| Due to unforeseen circumstances, a cyber attack on our infrastructure. | ||
| They're going to generate the problem that they will provide the solution for. | ||
| It's called the Hegelian dialectic. | ||
| And then we will be brought under the control. | ||
| Remember this. | ||
| It's all about control. | ||
| It's all about control. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Hell yeah. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Man. | ||
| All the same messages being put out synchronized, essentially, throughout all of this world. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| Why are they making me nostalgic for the horrible Christianity that I was raised in? | ||
| I think that's... | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| Oh, well, at least they fucking talked about the Bible or some shit whenever I was growing up. | ||
| This is about cyborgs! | ||
| You remember what? | ||
| Actually, I would go the other direction. | ||
| Yeah, I think I'm like the cyborgs more. | ||
| But I feel like a piece of that was actually what kind of got me a little bit, what I was saying, you know, like about watching this. | ||
| I'll explain exactly what happened like towards the end of it because there's a clip that plays into it. | ||
| But there is a piece of it that, yeah, it does make me harken back to like my religious days. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Some things were easier, but that's because I was a kid. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| There's a wistfulness that watching this evoked in me that I'm very uncomfortable with. | ||
| It's so strange. | ||
| I wildly prefer people believing weird shit and then holding snakes instead of them being like, you know, the government's making chimeras. | ||
| Like, oh, all right, all right. | ||
| Also, let me sell you potatoes. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, because you know why? | ||
| This guy believes, though. | ||
| The people holding snakes seem sincere. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| There's a part of it that's like, you're crazy, but I think you mean it. | ||
| You mean it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There's this, like, it's so see-through. | ||
| Like, Steve, I think, is not that smart. | ||
| No, very much no. | ||
| And couldn't cut it as a scholar in any real life. | ||
| Or a science fiction writer. | ||
| And to be fair, I don't know if I could either, so I'm not criticizing him too harshly. | ||
| But I probably couldn't make it as a scholar, neither could he. | ||
| He decided to take a little bit of a shortcut, which is reading up on mythologies and stuff like that and trying to find ways to piece together things and pretend shit's real. | ||
| Put out a bunch of stupid-ass books and then start screaming about government depression and what have you. | ||
| Link yourself up with the right wing real hard and then start selling gold. | ||
| Because he has a gold sale operation. | ||
| Of course he does. | ||
| Yeah, he has a gold. | ||
| Why wouldn't he? | ||
| He sells gold. | ||
| That's just good diversity. | ||
| I don't know if Jim Baker does, though. | ||
| I bet he does. | ||
| I bet he doesn't say he does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I bet that's the situation with him. | ||
| So, hey man, I know that you think chimeras don't belong in church, but... | ||
| A man who's dead now heard me on the radio years ago, and he said, I want you to know, he verified who he was, and he said, I have seen human-being animal hybrids in cages crying out, help me, I'm a human! | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| For those listening, Jordan took his headphones off and had to back away from the table. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I beg you, Bob. | ||
| Fuck these people. | ||
| Fuck these fucking people. | ||
| Fuck these fucking people. | ||
| And look, I was against the death penalty for a long time. | ||
| I was against the death penalty for a long time. | ||
| But there are a lot of people that need to die. | ||
| That's... | ||
| Fucked up. | ||
| I'm not sure Steve does. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| Why do they pull this shit? | ||
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That's hilarious. | |
| Because we have regular people in cages right now, and they're not treating them like human beings. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
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That's fucked up! | |
| It is. | ||
| Why is this so fucked up, Dan? | ||
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What the goddamn ever-living fuck? | |
| Neighbors. | ||
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God! | |
| Ah! | ||
| I don't know what to tell you, but... | ||
| I can't. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| Oh, fuck this fucking guy. | ||
| Fuck this fucking... | ||
| Fuck all these fucking people. | ||
| Fuck all of these fucking people who are going to prey on your fucking fears of people being in cages and then watch people go into fucking cages. | ||
| These aren't people in cages. | ||
| These are chimeras in cages who are saying that they're human. | ||
| Maybe they are or maybe they aren't. | ||
| Oh, well, you can't trust them. | ||
| You should trust them, apparently. | ||
| He's not going to make the argument that they're demons or anything. | ||
| Wait, he's not? | ||
| No. | ||
| He's like, look at how terrible it is that they're doing this. | ||
| He's taking a sympathetic approach to the chimera. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm right on board with you, and I appreciate your passion. | ||
| And I agree with your sentiment entirely as well, but you've got to compartmentalize. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| He's talking about fucking... | ||
| I know. | ||
| He's talking about fish people with sad human looks on their face. | ||
| I know. | ||
| He's very clearly expressing something that he claims someone told... | ||
| It's very clear that Steve is the genesis of that story about fish-faced chimera beings in cages. | ||
| Yeah, but somebody told Steve. | ||
| And he confirmed who it was. | ||
| Though he won't tell you or confirm to you who it was. | ||
| And he's dead now, so it doesn't matter. | ||
| And he's dead now, so you don't even need to worry about it. | ||
| Somebody told him. | ||
| Oh, that's very credible. | ||
| Look. | ||
| This is by no means considered hearsay in a court of law. | ||
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No. | |
| And I could absolutely prove this. | ||
| I actually do know that World News Daily Report had an article about how the Supreme Court actually said that they needed to reveal the fish people. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Supreme Court decision. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm starting back at the beginning of this clip. | ||
| Because you got so mad. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I was mad. | ||
| Heard me on the radio years ago. | ||
| And he said, I want you to know. | ||
| He verified who he was. | ||
| And he said, I have seen human beings. | ||
| Animal hybrids in cages crying out, help me, I'm a human. | ||
| And he said, look, and this guy made this statement. | ||
| He made it to me, and I've talked about it on the radio. | ||
| He said, I am an assassin. | ||
| I did that. | ||
| And by the way, he sent his son to Bible school, even though he was the most profane man I've ever met. | ||
| But he said, even as hard as my heart was, when you see a human-animal hybrid that was once strictly human. | ||
| And people say they can't do that. | ||
| If you see it in the headline, Tom Horne says they're doing it in all states, in all countries. | ||
| They are. | ||
| They don't get back to the rebuttal, you can't do that. | ||
| Tom Horne says they're doing it. | ||
| In every state. | ||
| In every state and in every country. | ||
| Yes, they are. | ||
| Pick a country. | ||
| Angola. | ||
| Doing it. | ||
| Burkina Faso. | ||
| I don't even know where that is, but they're doing it. | ||
| Sub-Saharan Africa, the capital to Ouagadougou. | ||
| I know, we've had this discussion many times. | ||
| Madagascar. | ||
| Okay, Madagascar? | ||
| Actually, they are doing it there, though. | ||
| But that's because Madagascar is a whole... | ||
| It's a great study on evolution in island nations and how you can see the flowering of certain species that would go extinct in otherwise places, and it's fantastic. | ||
| Also, most of those species are half-human. | ||
| That Chris Rock David Schwimmer movie was actually a documentary. | ||
| All those animals in Madagascar were chimeras. | ||
| Oh, that makes sense. | ||
| That's why they were able to talk. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Chris Rock has been in on it the whole time. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Bigger and more chimera. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| I can't... | ||
| You know, it's one of those things. | ||
| You know. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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All right. | |
| You know? | ||
| All right. | ||
| You know? | ||
| On the show, there's another guy who's a guest. | ||
| His name is David Lankford. | ||
| He's a preacher. | ||
| But he is mostly silent while Steve Quayle steamrolls over everybody. | ||
| As God intended. | ||
| But he gets to say a little bit here. | ||
| And this is fucking so laughable. | ||
| Put your mic down for this, just because it's a little subtle. | ||
| All right. | ||
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He's telling you to get prepared, folks. | |
| He's talking about Jesus. | ||
| God. | ||
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Folks. | |
| And as a former pastor, I passed for 27 years. | ||
| I am so tired of these pantywaist pastors who won't preach anything, who won't say anything, who won't do anything, and they're only concerned about being politically correct. | ||
| And all they want, all they want is your money. | ||
| And Brother Baker, I didn't know this until in prayer one day. | ||
| The denominations, God's done with them. | ||
| Amen. | ||
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He's done with them. | |
| He's brought us out of the harlot. | ||
| They could kill you over that, you know. | ||
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That's okay. | |
| Well, I just want to warn you. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Then they just laugh a bit. | ||
| Man. | ||
| I love a guy who's a guest on Jim Baker's show saying all these PC preachers just want your money. | ||
| All these PC preachers just want your money. | ||
| But again, this reflects another... | ||
| That's why you can't trust the megachurches, Dan. | ||
| The megachurches are trying to build a city? | ||
| That's not where you can find God. | ||
| You can't find God on the megachurches. | ||
| You find it within Infowars. | ||
| That's where you find it. | ||
| You can't trust those megachurches asking for your money. | ||
| By the way, you can get a year's worth of food for only $600. | ||
| Or when you talk... | ||
| Talk about megachurches. | ||
| You don't get more mega than this guy who has built a city around his commune in the Ozarks, like in the middle of Missouri. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He has a P.O. box in Branson because his church is too far away. | ||
| It's essentially an apocalyptic cult that's funny. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Prosperity gospel guys, though, they own multiple jets. | ||
| Yes, they do. | ||
| Those guys are rich as fuck. | ||
| Yes, they do. | ||
| I'm not saying it's a matter of actual poundage of money. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| I'm not saying that. | ||
| It's a matter of poundage of food. | ||
| Well, certainly. | ||
| We're going to get to that here in a fucking second. | ||
| But it's more about he's created a world. | ||
| Whereas a lot of these megachurch people, they get in and get out and then go about their lavish lifestyles and live. | ||
| Live in mansions. | ||
| Like God-fearing people. | ||
| Right, and they have their jets and whatever. | ||
| They have the extravagant lifestyle that their megachurch affords them. | ||
| But I think, from everything I can tell, Jim Baker seems to have a commune. | ||
| I don't know if he lives there all the time, but it would be stupid if he didn't. | ||
| Because, like I said, Lori's house is giant. | ||
| The stuff that he's building there are giant, huge... | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| If you have the money to do this and live in a mansion somewhere else, I don't even want to consider it. | ||
| Also, why would he live anywhere else? | ||
| He lives in the only place where he's worshipped regularly. | ||
| And safe. | ||
| If he went anywhere else, people would be like, ha ha ha, you're an asshole. | ||
| Or kick his ass. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of people who probably are really mad at him for... | ||
| Oh, for defrauding them? | ||
| Ripping them off and stuff like that. | ||
| And I imagine that he probably... | ||
| It's probably a situation where the Ozarks are where you can hide. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To some extent. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Anyway, I told you we're going to get to poundage of food. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How much poundage of food? | ||
| Well, real quick, I don't know if I fully fleshed this out, but that last clip where the guy is talking about the... | ||
| These other PC preachers, they just want your money and that stuff? | ||
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Right. | |
| That, again, harkens back to another of Alex's main rhetorical tactics, which is accuse people of what you're doing. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's a very good strategy in order to deflect criticism of yourself. | ||
| When you're very obviously running a scam, accuse people of running a scam. | ||
| Especially people who have nothing to do with what you're doing, just other preachers. | ||
| It's preemptively saying, I'm rubber and you're glue. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| It's neener neener. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So now we get to the poundage. | ||
| In this clip, Jim Baker sort of insinuates that if you don't buy his food, you'll be forced to take the mark of the beast. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| And then shit gets weird. | ||
| At the end of this clip, man, I gasped. | ||
| Do we have any Yelp reviews for his food? | ||
| No, but I might be able to look them up during this clip. | ||
| For instance, I've got a granddaughter who's three. | ||
| I've got a grandson who's... | ||
| About three months. | ||
| And I've got nieces and nephews here now. | ||
| And if they're crying, and I keep saying this, but nobody wants to hear me, but I'm going to tell you again. | ||
| If I have no food and they're crying, what am I going to do? | ||
| What am I going to do if little Olivia, who is the joy of my heart, You all say, well, I'm strong. | ||
| I'm not going to turn away from God. | ||
| I won't take the mark of the beast. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I'll believe that when I see it. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| But why, you know, my home is filled with food. | ||
| I have enough food for years and years. | ||
| And I have millions. | ||
| Emile's here at Morningside and don't even think about coming to steal my food. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| That's where I gasp. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Because I couldn't quite tell what the guy said, but it wasn't good. | ||
| It was something like, come on, man! | ||
| I know! | ||
| What was that? | ||
| But it's like, don't even try, don't even think about coming to steal my food. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why would I? | ||
| It was the last thing on my mind. | ||
| Also, why wouldn't I if I was hungry? | ||
| You seem weak as shit. | ||
| Yeah, you're old. | ||
| Yeah, I could take your food so fast. | ||
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Well... | |
| Preach that again, Jim, please. | ||
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Please. | |
| We always say don't come to the hills because, believe me, everyone is kind of armed and ready. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So Lori is like, everyone here has guns. | ||
| We are... | ||
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I mean, you thought Waco was bad. | |
| We'll burn everybody down. | ||
| So NPR, I found a review of the food article called Apocalypse Chow, where they tried... | ||
| All right, NPR. | ||
| All right, NPR. | ||
| Let's pull it back a bit. | ||
| I'll just read to you from the article. | ||
| This is blind. | ||
| I don't know if this is going to be a good review or a bad one. | ||
| Here at NPR, we tried the creamy potato soup, macaroni elbows, and cheese powder, and the chicken noodle soup. | ||
| And of course, we had to test the chocolate pudding for dessert. | ||
| Gotta! | ||
| Save for the pudding, the dishes were extremely salty and had odd lingering aftertastes. | ||
| We couldn't agree on which was worse, the thick potato soup that felt like eating wet cement, the strong chemical overtones of the chocolate pudding, or the disturbing radioactive orange of the macaroni and cheese. | ||
| Pro tip, do not make the mistake we made of adding more cheese than the recipe calls for. | ||
| I feel like that's on NPR. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Once again, liberals ruin everything. | ||
| A chef's review. | ||
| Quote, it's awful. | ||
| It's trash. | ||
| Greg Loro, a chef who lives and works in Brooklyn, New York, tells the salt. | ||
| In a November video for Sploid, Lauro cooks and taste tests several dishes from Baker's survivalist bucket. | ||
| Italian marinara, the potato soup, black bean... | ||
| Italian marinara is apocalypse food? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Black bean burgers, stroganoff, and chocolate pudding. | ||
| They taste, he says, like, quote, paper mache, quote, a bathroom at a bar at the end of the night in a college town, and simply one of the worst things I've ever eaten in my life. | ||
| Frank Davis is the founder of Food for Health International, one of the two companies that manufacture the food for the Jim Baker show. | ||
| He takes issue with Laura's brutal critique. | ||
| I would imagine so. | ||
| I would imagine so. | ||
| According to him, these dishes are actually quite tasty, especially when you consider that they could last up to 40 years when stored in ideal basement-like conditions. | ||
| Hunger is the best spice down. | ||
| Quote, it's not crucial not to use anything that can go rancid like animal fats. | ||
| Or it's crucial not to use anything like that. | ||
| Even though animal fats make a cheaper and more flavorful base, there's no way that will work. | ||
| We use a vegetarian base. | ||
| But, as NPR notes, not all products are vegetarian. | ||
| Many, like the Instant Potatoes, have rendered chicken fat. | ||
| The creamy stroganoff ingredients list... | ||
| A vegetarian beef base. | ||
| This is the chef again, Lauro. | ||
| It's off-putting that Baker is trying to sell this stuff on its taste when it doesn't look or taste anything like he advertises. | ||
| So there's that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| If you're buying a year's worth of food... | ||
| Or seven. | ||
| Yeah, it's not going to taste good. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's just... | ||
| I mean, if you're already predisposed to buying a year's worth of food... | ||
| I don't think taste is big on your list of priorities. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| I feel like that's a little bit unfair. | ||
| Because the point of this food is you haven't been able to eat and you won't be able to eat anything else. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If you're just looking for calorie mush, then go for it. | ||
| Yeah, this seems fine. | ||
| But at the same time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| I would say that he's not marketing food as food. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's using these tricks and this fear in order to... | ||
| To sell the food. | ||
| And there's actually one interesting clip from one of his commercials on this episode that I found jarring. | ||
| And it was because it's so indicative of every... | ||
| I mean, it's just standard televangelist shit. | ||
| But it was just like... | ||
| So do it today. | ||
| We don't know what the future brings. | ||
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But we can be ready for the future. | |
| So this is the day. | ||
| That I believe God's been speaking to you to call and to do it and you haven't done it. | ||
| But I believe that God is really speaking to someone to be prepared. | ||
| And if you haven't even started, maybe today is the day you need to order that seven years of food. | ||
| You'll not be disappointed if you prepare. | ||
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We have to get back to our program right now. | |
| Yeah, you gotta get back to the program. | ||
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Jeez. | |
| My God. | ||
| I will say they have one commercial for a product that I was like, I mean, that's out of my price range, but that's pretty cool. | ||
| They have a generator, like a fuel-less generator that they sell for like $3,000. | ||
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Oh, yeah? | |
| But it looks really cool. | ||
| A fuel-less generator? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, because what you can do is you can hook it up to solar panels. | ||
| It comes with a couple solar panels you can hook up to the back. | ||
| Apparently, allegedly, it charges in two hours with the solar panels. | ||
| There's other ways to power it. | ||
| If you can find an outlet, you can charge it. | ||
| But it has USB ports for phones and stuff like that. | ||
| That's actually great. | ||
| If that works, I want one of those. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| But I'm looking at that not as a doomsday thing. | ||
| That's just useful. | ||
| A smaller version of that would be amazing for, like, camping and stuff like that. | ||
| Oh, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So I'm just looking at that and I'm like, you know what? | ||
| I'd forgotten that generators have probably come a long way since I've ever considered it. | ||
| It wasn't even the product they're selling. | ||
| It's like, I might need a generator. | ||
| Multiple outlets on it. | ||
| That's a pretty cool thing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| USB ports? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| So at this point... | ||
| Now I really want a generator. | ||
| At this point, we get to some fear, and then we will power out of this. | ||
| We will wrap up with something terrifying. | ||
| That in the last days, you will have to defend if the gangs are going to take in the city. | ||
| You don't even want to live in the city. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| I want to tell you something. | ||
| Sunnyside. | ||
| I would buy... | ||
| A condo or a house or a cave or something at Morningside or a farm. | ||
| I could buy a farm somewhere. | ||
| I'd get away from the cities. | ||
| I want to tell you, one minute after the cities go crazy, one minute after the power goes out, they're going to be burning the cities and the gangs. | ||
| You don't understand the gangs. | ||
| I lived in prison with them. | ||
| I want to tell you something. | ||
| They're going to take what they want. | ||
| And if Grandma is holding a roast turkey in her hand and they want it, they'll cut Grandma's head off and take the turkey. | ||
| They don't have mercy. | ||
| When people are hungry and then they're not converted, they're going to take what they want. | ||
| It will be hell on earth. | ||
| Jesus allows you to not feel hunger. | ||
| Yep, that's science. | ||
| I mean, sure, certainly hypothetical gang members that are certainly using racist fear to depict. | ||
| I was there in prison. | ||
| Yes, I have a swastika tattooed on my ass, but I did that to survive. | ||
| You don't understand the gangs. | ||
| Move out to Sunnyside. | ||
| I'm selling condos. | ||
| Free Nazi tattoos for everyone. | ||
| I was in a prison cell with Lyndon LaRouche. | ||
| What kind of gang? | ||
| What kind of gangs were you dealing with? | ||
| You're in a fucking prison cell. | ||
| You two rich old con men in a minimum security prison. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What kind of fucking gangs were you in there? | ||
| You're just trying to lend yourself some stupid credibility. | ||
| Worst gangs. | ||
| Now, the idea, though, is, I mean, he's just using classic racist fear, basically. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| The marauding minorities and gangs coming. | ||
| In seven days. | ||
| Everyone will eat each other. | ||
| Everyone will eat each other. | ||
| Now, here's the thing I want to say. | ||
| I don't think it's great if a gang wants to behead your grandma for a turkey. | ||
| Or a chicken. | ||
| Or whatever you're saying. | ||
| A roast chicken. | ||
| I think she's probably better tasting. | ||
| I will say, actively, what Jim Baker does as a career... | ||
| Is talking that old woman into giving away her turkey. | ||
| Or chicken. | ||
| That's a very good point. | ||
| He is just using a different tactic in order to get the exact same thing that the gangs do. | ||
| He uses emotional manipulation, fear of religious shit that's all made up, and apparently giants in order to trick Grandma into sending what she can't afford to send. | ||
| These gangs will use the threat of violence to take your grandmother's turkey! | ||
| And I will only use the threat of the threat of violence to take your grandmother's turkey. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I am a good man. | ||
| Now, the only way that actually makes sense is, like, don't buy my food. | ||
| Buy a home in my community where I have millions of meals. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's the only way this makes sense. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because then you're safe in his, apparently everyone has guns, well-armed food den. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I hate this guy. | ||
| This is so weird. | ||
| I am feeling so many terrible... | ||
| Legitimately, I am offended as the 10-year-old Christian boy that I was. | ||
| Even then, you would have been like, come on. | ||
| Right now, I believe that Christianity is the fucking worst, and organized religion is killing all of us. | ||
| But for some reason, there's that... | ||
| Like, no matter how old you grow or how your opinions change, like, there's that 10-year-old part of you that was raised that you're never going to be able to scrub completely away. | ||
| And 10-year-old me is like... | ||
| This is a terrible interpretation of the Bible. | ||
| You are spitting on Jesus' face, and you should be fucking ashamed of yourself. | ||
| And when the time comes, you will burn in hell for eternity, Jim Baker. | ||
| And the only reason that you would do this shit is if you knew 100% That God wasn't real! | ||
| The way he behaves is so cynical. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even for us, it's cynical. | ||
| Yeah, it's brutal. | ||
| I don't understand how you get to that moral place. | ||
|
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Oh! | |
| And, like, it sucks because a lot of the victims are probably well-meaning people who aren't that cynical. | ||
| They're all well-meaning. | ||
| They can't be cynical. | ||
| Well, no, you're right. | ||
| You're right, right, right. | ||
| Some of them are probably dumb. | ||
| But, like, there's a lot of people who, like, I know that my grandma buys a lot of stuff off like QVC. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Or did. | ||
| I'm not sure if she still does, but I would get these horrible, stupid Christian gifts that she would send. | ||
| Two years in a row for Christmas, or my birthday, I can't remember which, she sent me a book that was a tour guide to heaven. | ||
| Same book? | ||
| Yeah, both times. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| But it was written in the structure of as if it was a hotel that you were going to. | ||
|
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Nice. | |
| And so you open it up and it's like, are the streets really paved in gold? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| And I was like... | ||
| So I didn't even bother to disabuse you of your bullshit notions? | ||
| I was like, alright, cool, cool. | ||
| And I know that she had to have gotten that somewhere, and it's the same thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But she didn't mean, she wasn't trying to con me into being religious. | ||
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No, of course not. | |
| She had the best intentions, although misguided, of like, I believe we're gonna go to hell if you don't do these right things, and I don't want you to go to hell. | ||
| And she, you know, acted out on it poorly. | ||
| But... | ||
| The people on the next level, the people selling the books that are used as unfortunate gifts, are all conning the people below them. | ||
| And I think that's actually the case with almost every church, quite frankly. | ||
| I would agree. | ||
| I think the lower down you get, the more sincere things probably are. | ||
| The higher up people kind of realize that this is a business. | ||
| It's fascinating to me because it is something that they themselves... | ||
| Maybe not Unitarians. | ||
| No, they seem pretty chill. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know enough about it, but the idea of, like, hey, everybody's cool seems like it's tough to make money. | ||
| Well, even in my small town, there was a church that had... | ||
| In my small town, growing up, I had two world-rocking events in the Christian community. | ||
| One. | ||
| Nugent came to town. | ||
| First woman pastor. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Everybody talking about it. | ||
| That is quite a... | ||
| Everybody talking about it. | ||
| Five years later. | ||
| Lesbian pastor. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Whole town went apeshit. | ||
| See, this is cultural Marxism. | ||
| Whole town went apeshit. | ||
| This is the slippery slope of subjectivism. | ||
| But that's the thing. | ||
| To me, Christianity exemplifies the worst thing, and that's the thing that they argue and they bitch about all the time, which is the idea that it is the smart versus the dumb. | ||
| Like, that's what Christians always fight against. | ||
| Like, that's the idea. | ||
| You can't go to college. | ||
| Don't go to the colleges because they're fighting against you. | ||
| It's the smart versus the dumb. | ||
| They're trying to change you. | ||
| They're trying to turn you into them. | ||
| And they're using the fact that you're not capable, really, of looking past this. | ||
| Because you're dumb. | ||
| You're dumb. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| And that lesbian pastor, that exemplifies to me believing. | ||
| Like, actually believing. | ||
| Because if you are a lesbian and you believe in Christianity, fuck, you gotta believe it, man. | ||
| You've got to believe that shit's real. | ||
| True, true. | ||
| Otherwise, damn, you are aligning yourself with the entire organ that's trying to murder you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| Because that's what this is. | ||
| It's the smart versus the dumb. | ||
| It's Jim Baker knowing that you're too stupid to see through this shit, and if you had even the slightest modicum of critical thinking skills, you would look at this and go, Wow, is that dumb. | ||
| And it's the same thing with Alex Jones, which is why he always says, they think you're stupid. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| He knows he's playing on those same insecurities and those same deep-seated feelings that people have of not wanting to be dumb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And most people aren't as dumb as a lot of people think, I guess. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I have no idea how to make a broad generalization. | ||
| But I do know that we're about to meet another employee of Jim Baker Industries. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
|
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Is he going to sing a song? | |
| No, I wish. | ||
| I did not find a song. | ||
| You didn't find any more songs? | ||
| No, but this, we meet someone who I gotta say looks like she's 14. I don't think she is. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| That's actually a really important question that I have. | ||
| Before you continue, I'm so sorry to interrupt you again. | ||
| I know you're trying to get into a clip and I'm doing that thing where I interrupt you right before you get into a clip. | ||
| You're fine. | ||
| Because I just had a thought that came from your... | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Is the music any good? | ||
| No. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| The videos that they put out don't often have the band playing in it. | ||
| Then what the fuck's the point? | ||
| Well, you just need to hear Steve talk about Giants. | ||
| What the fuck is the point? | ||
| I'm sure that the music is exactly as good as that End Time song. | ||
| I know, that's bad. | ||
| Which is pretty fucking good. | ||
| You have different perspectives on it. | ||
| I'm just saying the only reason that church is even redeemable is because the music is fucking... | ||
| Not true. | ||
| Intense. | ||
| Not true. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| When I was in my youth group. | ||
| Ooh, no, that's a whole different story. | ||
| They had a praise band. | ||
| No, that's the worst thing that's ever happened. | ||
| With drums, guitar, bass, all that stuff. | ||
| It was just sort of a vehicle for the, I guess he's probably like 20-something-year-old music leader to be the front man of a band. | ||
| And so they did covers of like Meet Virginia. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Like, I don't understand how this is a Christian song. | ||
| I don't understand what this is doing at church, but we loved it. | ||
| You just described every youth pastor in this entire fucking country. | ||
| Except you didn't add in that he was guilty of sexually abusing children. | ||
| Not the youth pastor. | ||
| This is the youth music leader. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| He was the second in command to the actual youth pastor. | ||
| That was Shane. | ||
| Shane was the youth pastor. | ||
| Shane? | ||
| Name him. | ||
| What? | ||
| I don't remember his last name. | ||
| Well, fuck Shane. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But the other one they do is Jumper. | ||
| We should step back from that name. | ||
| I did the same thing when I was in the youth group or whatever. | ||
| They did the same bullshit covers. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| It seems like there might have been some sort of a worldwide religious summit. | ||
| They got together and they're like, these are the songs that are okay to cover. | ||
| Time of your life? | ||
| Everywhere. | ||
| Didn't have that one. | ||
| Everywhere. | ||
| We didn't do that. | ||
| I think that my guy, I can't remember his name now. | ||
| The music guy. | ||
| But I think he probably thought that Green Day was too hard or something like that. | ||
| He's like, I don't want to sing Time of Your Life or Good Riddance, as it were. | ||
| Oh, no, you can't sing Good Riddance. | ||
| But same song. | ||
| It's a different song. | ||
| Same song. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Parentheses Time of Your Life. | ||
| But if you do that, then you run the risk of the kids finding more Green Day stuff. | ||
| And then maybe... | ||
| They'll find out what the word dookie means. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But then it's totally fine to train. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Third Eye Boy. | ||
| Third Eye Boy. | ||
| Train? | ||
| Which song was Train? | ||
| Meet Virginia. | ||
| Was that the one? | ||
| Well, that was one of the big hits. | ||
| No, Train was the one where it was like... | ||
| Drops of Jupiter? | ||
| Drops of Jupiter. | ||
| That was Train. | ||
| That was another big hit. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Meet Virginia, I think, was their first hit. | ||
| So, now we meet this employee. | ||
| All right. | ||
| There's Giovanna. | ||
|
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Giovanna from the audio booth. | |
| Smile. | ||
| You're Lori's favorite employee. | ||
|
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I'll tell you what. | |
| Lori loves you, girl. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And she... | ||
| She takes care of our audio. | ||
| She don't have a microphone there, but she's audio. | ||
| And would you say that you're an Alaskan or are you a hillbilly now? | ||
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I'm definitely an Alaskan. | |
| So you know if you were up there with your mom and dad, no matter what's happened, you'd survive, right? | ||
| See, and nobody's going to say, oh, you stupid family. | ||
| No, they wouldn't. | ||
| So then, her parents... | ||
| No, don't tell me her parents are there. | ||
| Her parents are there. | ||
| Why are her parents there? | ||
| Very specific reason we'll get to in a second. | ||
| Don't tell me they live there. | ||
| No, but we'll get to the very specific reason in a second. | ||
| I just like her response, which might as well have been like, I'm not playing your game, this is a job. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| She's nervous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm telling you, she looks like she's 14. Okay. | ||
| She's not. | ||
| I know that for another reason that I'll explain in a moment. | ||
| Oh, okay, okay. | ||
| So the parents are there, and after this, Jim gets into like a, you know, in Alaska, he'd probably kill a moose. | ||
| All right. | ||
| How many pounds of meat is in that moose? | ||
| Oh, and this is going to turn into, guess what? | ||
| Not as many pounds as the potatoes. | ||
| Not really, but he's riffing around with this guy about killing moose and living in Alaska and how it's a subsistence kind of lifestyle. | ||
| I don't like that at all. | ||
| But it's just more like trying to reinforce in different, non-directly sales ways, the idea of needing to survive. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So now, the reason that she is there and they talk to her and she's Lori's favorite employee and her parents are there... | ||
| Which is kind of rapey now. | ||
| ...are because the show ends with a video package about her and her... | ||
| What?! | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Mic down. | ||
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I think the exciting thing... | |
| About my daughter being in this program is really the personalities, is really the people that have connected with her, have invested into her, have really given the time and the effort and the experience and sewn into her those things that she's now using. | ||
| That I knew if I stayed home or if I went anywhere else, I would be unsatisfied. | ||
| And knowing that if I did anything else, I wouldn't be fulfilling the calling. | ||
| So she came here with some experience behind the camera, some desire and interest in that, and found out that really her niche is audio. | ||
| So this goes on for a long time, and that music swells, and at the end, man, it is kicking in. | ||
| And that is what really got me. | ||
| That swelling music over the dad and the daughter talking about having a good time in life. | ||
| No, this is an ESPN 30 for 30 of a tennis player or whatever it is. | ||
| Man, it got to me. | ||
| Do you understand what's going on here? | ||
| Jim Baker is straight up charging people to indoctrinate their children, teach them how to use specific technology that his show uses, then turn them into employees under the guise of something he calls Morningside School of Media. | ||
| What? | ||
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He's running a scam college! | |
| God damn it. | ||
| Yeah, buddy. | ||
| The moment I heard her voice, you can look at my notes. | ||
| The first thing I wrote was... | ||
| This is fucked up. | ||
| It's very fucked up. | ||
| You continued on, and now I am furious. | ||
| It's so fucked up. | ||
| She looks like she's 14, 15, 16. It's tough for me to tell, but I do know that from the website, he doesn't allow anyone under 18 into the Morningside School of Media. | ||
| So, at Morningside, this is from their description. | ||
| At Morningside School of Media, you'll receive hands-on training from some of the best and brightest minds in broadcasting! | ||
| As you work alongside them to produce a nationally syndicated television show, you'll be learning how to use high-definition cameras, state-of-the-art audio equipment, and professional editing software to create content that airs on the PTL Television Network and the Jim Baker Show. | ||
| This hands-on approach will... | ||
| will... | ||
| will boy. | ||
| This is a cut and paste here, and it says, will you you a one-of-a-kind experience that cannot be found in any book? | ||
| It can be found in a book. | ||
| It can be found at real schools. | ||
| Also, I find it not to be an education when it's just send your kids here, we'll give them a bed, and then they can watch us create the show and then eventually become the people who create the show. | ||
| Do you know what? | ||
| That's actually less of a scam than a lot of regular colleges. | ||
| It's not accredited. | ||
| No, I'm not saying it's accredited, but I spent my very first semester in college was in audio production. | ||
| If it were that... | ||
| It would be less of a scam than it was. | ||
| It was a scam. | ||
| I'm not saying that you can't learn some skills from this, but you'll have no degree. | ||
| No, what you should do is just go to an audio production facility and just volunteer at a radio station and learn. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But there's a lot of... | ||
| Look, it's very clear to me that what we have here is a Peter Pan situation where there's the lost children that come in and they're the ones making the show. | ||
| You will see... | ||
| There's a cutaway that goes to the booth. | ||
| When he's talking to her as, like, Laurie's favorite employee, it just looks like there's kids working the booth. | ||
| It looks like he just has a child army that's running the show. | ||
| I would argue that's more of a Peter Piper situation than a Peter Pan. | ||
| No, it's Peter Pan because she looks 14 and is clearly 20. Fair enough. | ||
| Doesn't want to grow up. | ||
| So, the Morningside School of Media costs $5,500 a year, and it's a two-year program. | ||
| Cheaper than what I spent. | ||
| That nets Jim a cool $11,000 per student that comes through his doors. | ||
| The FAQ specifically says this when discussing why they don't offer grants or scholarships at all. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Quote. | ||
| Oh, what is the FAQ's answer about this, Dan? | ||
| I am very curious. | ||
| Quote. | ||
| Almost every student who will come to Morningside School of Media will have a different story of how God provided for them financially. | ||
| Many of the support stories truly are miracles, and for that reason, we agree with you in prayer that if God has called you, he will support the finances for the school year. | ||
| Also, as a general rule, we do not offer payment plans. | ||
| Also, tuition is not... | ||
| We do take American Express! | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Tuition is not tax-deductible. | ||
| Nope, non-refundable. | ||
| Also, if you're looking for a fun college experience, don't come a-knocking at Morningside. | ||
| You can get kicked out for swearing, smoking, or using, quote, sexual innuendo. | ||
| Non-refundable. | ||
| Pornography is completely forbidden. | ||
| Non-refundable. | ||
| You're not allowed to have a job while you're there, studying, in quotes, because they consider it to be a 24-7 commitment to be in this school of media. | ||
| Also... | ||
| Cult. | ||
| Also, big thing to consider. | ||
| Unless you're on Verizon, you probably won't be able to contact the outside world. | ||
|
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Because Sprint and AT&T do not reach. | |
| That's on the FAQ? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It says they have a Verizon Tower nearby, so if you're on Verizon, you'll probably be okay. | ||
| You're all good. | ||
| But if you're on the other ones, people have had problems with getting a signal. | ||
| Side note, we do not allow Subprint or we do not allow Verizon customers to join this group. | ||
| Oh, that's a weird postscript, but yeah. | ||
| It's a weird postscript, but for some reason, not being able to contact the outside world is a feature and not a bug. | ||
| I mean, it is. | ||
| This is indoctrination. | ||
| No, this is absolutely a cult. | ||
| I was really, really scared of it. | ||
| This is Scientology. | ||
| I was really, really, really scared of it when I saw her, because I thought she was a child. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And knowing that she went at 18 makes it a little different, but it's still super fucked up. | ||
| The other thing is that the boys and girls that come to the school have to stay separately. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's a given. | ||
| I already assumed that a long time ago. | ||
| But now we find out what Lori's house is actually for. | ||
| It's for housing these kids that come. | ||
| It's not really about abortions or pregnancies. | ||
| I don't think she's helping anyone in crisis. | ||
| It's a dorm. | ||
| Crisis pregnancy. | ||
| She made a dorm. | ||
| She made a dorm. | ||
| She made a dorm for these girls who come so they don't end up in co-ed situations where there's temptation. | ||
| Oh, because if you fuck, you figure out that God's not real. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or if you smoke, or you drink, or if you swear. | ||
| If you say fuck while fucking, that's double. | ||
| That's a double blessing, Dan. | ||
| Double blessing. | ||
| It's like an heirloom seed. | ||
| So, Jordan, that brings us to the end of our investigation, our primary investigation, because we're going to go back to Jim Baker. | ||
| Oh, we're going to go to Jim Baker for sure. | ||
| But that brings us to the end of our dipping our toe into the waters of Jim Baker. | ||
| And I'd like to ask you, what do you feel now that we've come to the end? | ||
| Because I know why I did this, but I'm wondering what you're coming away from it with. | ||
| Is it the same as I intended, that sort of thing? | ||
| I am coming away with it with a new... | ||
| I found knowledge of my fucked up upbringing and how it still affects me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But most importantly, I am thinking about how... | ||
| Like, if we were to talk about Alex in the present day, the thing that is getting to me is that there's only one reaction that you can have. | ||
| Which is turn it off. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's just, like, it's cancerous. | ||
| There's only one way to respond to that. | ||
| We can no longer... | ||
| Like, I'm not saying that we can never do a present-day Alex episode again. | ||
| Well, let me put it to you this way, in a way that maybe you'll find to be not true or whatever, but it is. | ||
| I love... | ||
|
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All right, well, that's not giving me many options up top, but continue. | |
| I love spicy stuff. | ||
| I love really spicy stuff, okay? | ||
| So, like, I've got these, like, ghost pepper sauces, and I enjoy them. | ||
| Most people don't. | ||
| Most people do not enjoy them, and they find them intolerable, which is Alex Jones before. | ||
| I find it tolerable. | ||
| Most people can't listen to it, but I think there's some value in experiencing it. | ||
| I can do it, and I can tell you about what the sauce is like, and you can experience it on a second-hand level. | ||
| And together we can make it entertaining on a third-hand level, or however. | ||
| But there are other things that are like, there are sauces that are gross, and they're too hot. | ||
| The ones that are like five, six million Scoville units or whatever. | ||
| The ones that are just like, what's the fucking point of this? | ||
| Don't eat that. | ||
| And that's what Alex Jones is like jamming those spices into your fucking eyes and rubbing them around until you're blind. | ||
| In the present, he is like putting a scotch bonnet up your butthole. | ||
| There's no reason to engage with it at all. | ||
| There's nothing to engage with. | ||
| No. | ||
| There's really, the only response at this point is, like, as, and thank God for the heroes who keep doing it, but the only response to these people now is, get the fuck out. | ||
| If Sarah Huckabee Sanders is in your restaurant, tell her to get the fuck out. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If Alex is anywhere near you, tell them to get the fuck out. | ||
| Maybe we can talk later. | ||
| Right. | ||
| After all this shit is over. | ||
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Once. | |
| But for now, get the fuck out. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Listening to this, though, now I'm back on the, like, Let's have fun talking about con men. | ||
| These people are evil. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| But Jim Baker is dumb evil. | ||
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Jim Baker is dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb evil. | |
| It's fairly dumb, but then there's also the lust for money overpowers decorum. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So he doesn't know how to not make it obvious he's trying to con you into buying potatoes. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Because he doesn't need to. | ||
| Most of the time, it's a calculus that people do, and I think Alex has done it with white nationalism to a certain extent. | ||
| Jim Baker does, I'm sure, not him, but some employee, does a little bit of math and they figure out, alright, 80% of the people who watch this are going to watch and be like, ha ha, look at this asshole, and then turn it off, but the 20% of people, maybe 5% of that 20%, are going to end up buying stuff, so who cares if you make it overt? | ||
| If you make it overt... | ||
| Even if you're subtle about it, you're not going to trick that 80% anyway. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| Let them go. | ||
| Focus on that 5% of the 20%, and to a certain extent, the 20% as a whole. | ||
| Which will then prop up. | ||
| The fact that the 20% exists as a community will only make the 5% more likely. | ||
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Right. | |
| They'll feel guilt about the other 15%. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We need to keep this going for them. | ||
| There's a social pressure. | ||
| There's a whole thing. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And I think Alex has done that more with bigotry than his sales. | ||
| Because I think his sales are on a fucking much lower level than Jim's. | ||
| And somehow the Democratic Party has not figured out how to do that with progressives. | ||
| It's not easy to con people into doing the right thing. | ||
| It's not! | ||
| Somehow they're trying, though, to con people into not doing the right thing. | ||
| That's the weird thing about the Democratic Party right now. | ||
| They're really trying hard. | ||
| Now I'm interested to see how... | ||
| Or Tez did in the primary for the 14th District of New York. | ||
| Well, we'll know once this episode is over and out. | ||
| Yeah, I'm interested to find out how that goes. | ||
| Well, I'm glad that this was fun. | ||
| This was fun. | ||
| Jim Baker is a hoot. | ||
| There are a lot of other people who are on my sort of radar, but there aren't as many people who have frequent content. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, like, Alex Jones puts shit out every day. | ||
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He really does. | |
| Jim Baker puts out a couple things a week. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, these people are people who give. | ||
| You gotta give them that. | ||
| You gotta give props where it's due. | ||
| There's a lot to cover. | ||
| They produce content. | ||
| But then there's people who are like Mike Cernovich does tons of stuff on Periscope, and I'm sure you can find those audio and video streams to go over. | ||
| That doesn't seem as fun. | ||
| But if anybody out there, if you have other ideas of people who we might have overlooked, it's certainly, Send an email, send a message to us. | ||
| Hopefully, maybe we'll give it a look. | ||
| But for now, I'm excited to expand and talk cons. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Man. | ||
| With Jim Baker, it's just so fucking pathetic. | ||
| It's just such money-grubbing. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| That's what really fascinates me about these prosperity gospel guys and these These Jim Bakers of the world where it's like, wow, you have nothing. | ||
| If you take religion and you take the ultimately kind-hearted belief that life is about being kind to others, life is about serving a power that asks you to do what's best, and you turn that into... | ||
| I'm a billionaire? | ||
| Man, you got nothing going on in the heart space. | ||
| Well, and if you do that and then you commit massive fraud and then go to prison for five years, write a book called I Was Wrong about specifically how you got a lust for money and that got you off track from the love of God. | ||
| And then go right back to it! | ||
| You do the exact same thing. | ||
| You do the scam again! | ||
| On a bigger scale, it's like, jeez. | ||
| Alright, well, I mean, you learned the lesson not to build hotels. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| You just have cottages now. | ||
| So you built your own condos. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You have cottages and condominiums. | ||
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Great. | |
| Proud of them. | ||
| So ridiculous. | ||
| Anyway, Jordan, it's your turn. | ||
| But before we get to that, if you want more of our show, you can go to knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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Yep. | |
| However it is, the algorithms work. | ||
| I don't understand it. | ||
| Do whatever they do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Tell him! | ||
| Do it. | ||
| Tell him! | ||
| So who is going to fuck themselves today, sir? | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| I mean, it's all Jim Baker. | ||
| I mean, my first thought is Dan Quell, but that's not right. | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm going to have to... | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Because I think there's a... | ||
| Lyndon LaRouche? | ||
| I think there's a dark, dark master behind all of this. | ||
| Are you... | ||
| I don't like where I think you're going with this. | ||
| I think you know exactly where I'm going with this. | ||
| Does she look like Tammy Faye? | ||
| You better goddamn believe she does. | ||
| You don't remember her name? | ||
| No, I know her name. | ||
| I know her fucking name. | ||
| She's the one who's behind all this. | ||
| Jim is an old fucking man who doesn't know how to do anything else. | ||
| He does seem to be doddering a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, this is like a former Major League Baseball player in the minors at like 55. He just doesn't know what else to do with his life. | ||
| I will tell you who does know what's going on. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |