Knowledge Fight’s #173 (Feb 6–10, 2009) dissects Alex Jones’ early post-Obama election rants—identical state sovereignty resolutions (NH, AZ, MT, etc.), debunked gold price predictions ($3K/oz), and infant abuse conspiracy theories tied to abortion clinics—while exposing his hypocrisy: pushing anti-child policies despite personal history. They mock his Oklahoma City bombing claims (Terrence Yakey’s suicide as a federal murder) and "Patriot DVD" black-bagging paranoia, framing his outrage as self-serving. Ultimately, the episode reveals how Jones weaponized fear to rally fringe supporters, proving his narratives thrived on distortion rather than truth. [Automatically generated summary]
Just spoiler alert, that's him talking to a sovereign citizen caller and being like, maybe you shouldn't put too much stock in saying double cane in court and that shit.
We need to get to the end of February to see how he responds to the massive public Tea Party stuff happening.
And so we start on February 6th, and Alex is launching a new narrative that is really interesting and will carry through the entirety of what we cover on today's episode.
Because in 2009 was whenever that first started to get...
Like, it had been happening for like 10 years before that, but people started to really notice in 2009, they were like, where are all the fucking bees going?
There's gonna be no food if we don't have bees.
So I assume that Alex Jones is gonna jump on the back of that, ignore the whole Obama thing.
Like, really, he's already said all he's gonna say, which is that...
Obama's a terrible president.
So it's time to get down to the bottom of the B's.
And Dan, here's where I think he's going to go with this.
Eight states and growing are telling the federal government it is completely rogue and criminal that they will not put up with gun confiscation, concentration camps, stage terror attacks, you name it.
Increasing number of states declaring sovereignty.
This article by Kurt Nemo will be going over it early in this hour.
He goes over it a lot, not just in that next hour.
So we got this story here, and it's actually a really interesting thing.
You know, in the history of our country, generally speaking...
State legislatures don't get together to say, like, hey, the law is the law.
Remember that, federal government.
But mysteriously, a month or so after a black guy gets elected, a bunch of states get together and have their legislature put together a bunch of bills and resolutions that they put through that are directly delivered to the president and the Speaker of the House that just say, hey, we're letting you know.
So I found the one in Washington State that got introduced.
The bill just sort of sat there, and nobody acted on it, so it never got passed and never got put through.
The main one that Alex talks about, because it was the one that was introduced earliest, I believe, at least that's the sense I got from listening to Alex's show, was in New Hampshire.
And I looked that up, and it turns out that the bill is listed as, quote, Inexpedient to legislate.
Which I'm like, I don't know what the fuck that means.
Well, it's important to point out that the Arizona bill only passed, there was someone who went on record and said this, that it only passed because the language of it was very specific that it's non-binding in any way.
So Michigan, the version that was introduced there, died in committee, the Committee of Government Operations.
My home state, Missouri.
This one's weird.
Their version, H.R. 212, was a little bit rangy.
Quote, it declares Missouri's sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment and urges the United States Congress to reject the passage of Federal Freedom of Choice Act, which prohibits regulations on abortion.
So it was replaced with H.R. 294, which just said, quote, urges the United States Congress to summarily reject the enactment of the Federal Freedom of Choice Act.
His name is Charles Key, and he will come up on our episode.
And he introduced the Joint Resolution 1003, which passed the House and the Senate, but then was vetoed by Governor Brad Henry, who did so because the language of the resolution strongly suggested that Oklahoma should send back federal tax money.
Although with slightly diminished support, probably because of the points that Brad Henry brought up.
Because it was a concurrent resolution, it did not need to go to the governor this time, and when it passed, it was sent along to Obama, Biden, and the Speaker of the House.
I know about the resolutions of this because we're years later and stuff, but these ones dying in committee and stuff like that, they happen in March and April of 2009, whereas we're still in February, so I'm a little bit of an omniscient narrator.
Right.
But at the same time, you know that the reason these are being introduced is because it's fucking Obama.
And so they then sell the message through popular culture, through public schools, through college, that it's just the received, granted knowledge that it's true that more children is bad and that more children cost the public money when it's actually children that are our future.
And if they had any hope in this Ponzi scheme of big government and social security and pensions, that we needed another baby boom.
You know, whether it was a good decision or not for her to make when the family's middle class and the grandparents are paying for it, that doesn't matter.
The only reason I kept that in is because it's fascinating that he's fine, he's cool with the Octomom, but then also, we should just call her Suleiman.
So you might remember that a few years back, Todd Akin made some awful comments about how if a woman has been raped and she gets pregnant, her body will take care of that.
Depending on the study, it gives you a 50-200%, depending on the trimester, increase in cervical, ovarian, And other forms of reproductive organ cancer when you have an abortion.
Let me give you a little newsflash.
If the baby needs to die, your body will terminate.
If things aren't going right, 99% of the time, if your body's in danger, the body will do it.
So women just need to know, you've had abortions, that's a good chance of you getting cancer.
We have all that, and then we dive into greener, more familiar pastures when our old friend, the guy who made millions and millions of dollars taking gold from South Africa, Bob Chapman, shows back up.
I mean, it got up to about 1,600 an ounce or so and then corrected where it's been pretty much sense with a little bit of fluctuation right around 1,100, 1,200 an ounce.
And people who buy their gold and silver from Midas Resources, as we know from copious amounts of rip-off reports and shit like that, they were getting screwed, having nothing to do with the price of gold.
There's always been a faith and credit aspect of it that they're so mad about with the idea of trusting the government, but it would be fine to trust your local coin guy or the centralized coin guy who's making the coins for the state or whatever.
Everything is fine in that level, but anyway, it's all a scam.
They're all just running a scam.
So at this point on the show, something really interesting happens, and that is Alex Jones has Steve Watson as a guest.
I have never heard Paul Joseph Watson on the show in 2009 as I'm listening back to these, and now I hear Steve Watson, and boy, he is not ready for primetime.
And what happened was Alex introduced Steve as like this performer.
I think that Paul Joseph Watson or Steve, we'll call him Peeve, Peeve Watson decided that he wanted two paychecks and he knew Alex was never coming to England.
And so he created a brother persona in order to get two paychecks out of Alex.
Now Alex is trying to push them on air.
So Steve, the persona, comes on and is just awful.
He never comes back on, but Paul does a little bit of work, a little bit of reps.
He's training.
Gets a little bit better.
Gets a little snarkier.
Starts getting that glassy eye thing going so he looks like he means everything he's saying.
Comes back stronger than ever.
Steve never shows back up on air.
Paul Joseph Watson takes the mantle out of the Watson.
And now Steve fades into the background, much like Paul Joseph Watson appears to be in 2009.
That's my theory.
I have nothing to base that on, except for a picture that I saw of Steve Watson, who looks very similar to Paul Joseph Watson.
But I've only had him on once, about three or four months ago, and I wanted to get him back on because we had a lot of questions from listeners out there about how does a box the size of a water cooler without the water bottle on top produce seven and a half gallons of water a day in normal humidity?
So, towards the end of the show, Alex decides, like, I'm going to transition this.
I'm going to take some calls.
And they're all pretty boring.
But this one caller says something that I think is pretty funny.
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I want to send you my thing.
I can't find your address anywhere.
What is wrong with your site?
Why is it an abortion, basically?
Your site is an abortion.
I cannot find anything because...
You have all this stuff, Jim.
I don't mind having the advertising, but the rest of the space, could you have like little blocks for little segments so that we can go to whatever segment of the site we want to go to?
The good news is all these yuppies who've been laughing at me and who've helped this happen, they're going to lose everything they've got.
Just understand, we're all going to get hurt in this, but at least the scum's going to get hurt too.
Now, a lot of the scum's going to try to join this.
To get power.
Imagine every control freak, every nobody who can't build a business, who can't run a company, who never creates anything.
They're all going to have their own little uniforms on power trips with all these roidhead cops who've been in Iraq confiscating guns, killing 1.3 million.
They're all coming home to America to drink our country's blood down.
There's a lot going on there, too, that's just like...
I feel...
I feel like, from his perspective, what he's trying to be the customer-facing persona, the idea of, like, yeah, we're going down, but they're getting hurt, too, probably isn't...
That's not good.
That's not in line with what he wants his listeners to think, right?
There's not much going on on that show to illustrate how little I think is going on.
The only thing that I think is worth mentioning is that this is the first time I've heard this theme music that I think is one of the most out of place things ever on Alex's show.
So then you would stick someone with this milliliter, and then you'd have to go back to home base, or you would expect, like, it's just going to be lost.
This little mosquito drone is going to be lost in the field.
Also, if you had that kind of a drone and you were trying to use it in any precise way about landing on someone and sticking them, you'd have to worry about wind because they'd be too small.
And it was winning that contest that propelled her, that gave her the self-confidence necessary to pursue a career in giant mosquito-making technology.
I'm not disputing that there might be some sensationalized bullshit article that he's talking about.
I don't know.
I haven't found it.
But I did look into all this.
There is a lot of instances of babies in dumpsters and stuff like that, fetuses in dumpsters.
And most of the time, if you look at the stories, they are not abortion clinics.
They are people who have the baby and want to keep it secret, whether it's an abusive spouse, abusive partner or just like a I don't want to deal with this kind of situation, generally speaking, When you look at the instances of times the kids have been found in cages...
It's almost always their parents keeping them in cages.
It's parental abuse.
And the stories that I kept finding when I looked into this and tried to dig it up, I don't even want to talk about them because they're horrifying and gross.
But there are instances of people who got pregnant.
They didn't take care of it.
They got no...
I don't know why.
Even these articles a lot of the time say it's unclear why they didn't deal with this.
But then they end up having the baby at home and then throw it in a dumpster.
As if that is going to deal with the issue.
One of them was a sorority college student, and she had the baby in her bathroom, and then put it in a trash bag and threw it in the dumpster, and then texted her boyfriend, no baby.
Where the doctor steps out for a second and the door gets locked behind him and then the baby comes flying out and it's sliding around on the floor while all the nurses are trying to slam it with hammers and they can't get it because it's too quick.
It's sliding across the room like a grease pig and then it dies of exposure.
I would say that, like, since the 70s, especially, abortion clinics and people who work at them are pretty keenly aware that...
People want to kill them.
I generally think that they would be much more aware.
So even if you wanted to do what we just were sarcastically discussing as a possibility, they'd be like, no.
I think they go far more by the books.
And that's why whenever these things come out by James O 'Keefe or the Center for Medical Progress, it's always...
Crazy edited videos, and it's always outright manipulation to try and make these people look like they're doing the things that they want their listeners to be afraid that they're doing when they're not.
I'm coming around to your position a little bit more.
And I think that a lot of my positions need clarification in terms of what people think I believe versus what I actually do in terms of what is the right decorum and stuff like that.
I don't think it's wrong to scream at anybody who's involved with Trump in the public now.
I mean, I never did.
I didn't think it was.
The line that I had for the longest time was like...
Well, we're going to have to eventually figure this out, and eventually we're going to have to work things out, and eventually there are people who are conservative who come from a good-faith position, and we should not abuse them in the same way that we would abuse people who are of the Nazi persuasion.
And the more time goes on, and the...
The less and less I hear any of those voices, the more it becomes very clear to me that the priority is the people whose existence is in jeopardy.
And go ahead and paint conservatives with a broad brush.
And if you're one of the 20% of conservatives who's like, I don't want to be at that rally, but I'm still calling myself a conservative, well, then you're at that rally.
Because the responses are all just a waste of time, and they all seem to boil down to, especially from the right, the responses to Sarah Huckabee Sanders not being allowed to eat at this restaurant in Virginia seem to be like, oh, but what about the people who won't bake a cake?
Just brings up the idea of the Civil Rights Act and be like, okay, so based on the argument that you're making, you think the businesses shouldn't be able to serve black people if they don't like them.
And they're like, well, yeah.
And they all basically waffle about that.
They all just fall apart.
And the fact that Jim Jeffries brings this up to Jordan Peterson about his idea of the gay cake shit, and he's like, I might be wrong.
Hey, Bubba, nobody's stopping you from going to the dentist to have a tooth pulled and getting a whole bottle of hydrocodone and going home and turning your lights out.
you So that's a long pause that he has, but I want to address this because he's going to say some other shit.
But before that, the very easy rebuttal to this is like, I believe that libertarians do believe that you have the right to end your own life if you are in excruciating pain or something like that.
That is absolutely a libertarian position.
You have the right over your own body and what have you to the extent of that.
Him saying no one's stopping you from going to the dentist and getting a ton of hydrocodone, as you pointed out, the law, as I'm pointing out, okay, in order for you to do that, you now need a dentist who's willing to be your accessory in your suicide of yourself.
His whole point is that the people who are arguing that old people should be able to choose to die with dignity, which I think is probably the better way to phrase it, those people, yeah, of course you agree with that.
But what that's really about is instituting death panels and shit like that.
But then his idea is like, you shouldn't need the law to come in and make it okay for someone to help you die, because that's just going to get other people who don't want to die killed, whereas you should just be able to go, or you'd not be able to, you...
Specifically, should just go to your dentist and get a bunch of pills and then kill yourself.
But in order to avoid that, maybe you want to shoot yourself, and there's ways to do that safely.
But, you know, there's a...
I just...
I disrespect this position.
I really hate it.
I know that he's afraid of Obamacare and all that stuff, and I get why he wants to spread his political fear, but the real-world impact of this is really, really ugly.
By the grace of God, though, the CPS is huge, but they're usually so busy kidnapping other kids that a lot of times they can't show up to kidnap yours.
It is in line with this worldview that he has about families and stuff like that and how they're like, you shouldn't fucking have anybody get involved with them.
And it's like, well, there does need to be an implement of the state if kids are being abused and stuff like that.
So in this next clip, we get a trend that we see over and over again in Alex's world, and that is that he says one positive adjective, and he's really talking about white people.
The biggest one, obviously, is that Oklahoma passed a resolution saying we're not going to allow UN takeovers and gun confiscation and UN and all this.
And then the feds bombed you to teach you to love them, to teach you that they're the savior.
With Oklahoma City, the chief's exposed, now we've got, it's ten states now, it's grown three more since last week, introducing bills to say no to the feds and in there...
I'm sure you've had a chance to read over some of the others.
It's saying we're not going to put up with martial law.
We're not putting up with gun confiscation.
We're going to instruct our state police to resist.
I don't know if that would pass as a House resolution.
Let's not waste our time with this.
So the reason that Alex Jones is so gung-ho about this is because part of his narrative is that Oklahoma passed a resolution like this, and then as a retaliatory action...
He's a police officer in Oklahoma City who saved a bunch of people in the aftermath of the bombing.
He ended up pulling out between four and eight people from the wreckage before falling through a hole in the, I don't know, the building, I guess.
He fell two floors and injured his back.
And after that, he became very despondent and felt an immense amount of guilt because he got hurt and wasn't able to save more people.
And he ended up committing suicide in a field about a year after the Oklahoma City bombing, a couple days before he was supposed to receive a huge honor, a big award.
And before that, he had started to say things like, I don't deserve this and things like that.
I've reviewed a lot of the evidence that conspiracy theorists, because Alex right there and there is saying that he was tortured and then killed because he was going to come out and reveal that it was all fake.
He believes that, and this is one of the major underpinnings of the Oklahoma City conspiracy, is that Terrence Yakey was a cop who was involved, and he was about to go public because he couldn't deal with it.
He was making a bunch of statements to people, and then they, in heavy quotes, murdered him.
I've looked over everything, and I am not convinced in any way.
This looks like an all-too-common instance of tragedy being compounded.
The Oklahoma City bombing was a complete tragedy, and the suicide of a police officer, who by all credible accounts seems to be a good-hearted man, is just another layer of that tragedy.
Circumstances of his death are in no way particularly outside of what you might expect in a suicide being done by someone who has not attempted suicide before.
He had superficial cuts to his wrist and his throat, but died from a gunshot wound to his head.
This might seem strange, but in reality, it's a bit harder than you might expect to slash your wrists successfully.
Now the problem that I have with that is why the hell would the murderers cut him up fairly cleanly, but not deeply enough to kill him, which likely would be impossible if he were fighting back in any way, particularly considering that the cuts were on his wrists and his throat.
You know, like he would be fighting, and then if you're trying to not kill him, but then you get deep enough because he's fighting back, there's no way to create that scenario without accidentally going too far.
So then, they would have had to have done it in the car, which means that they would have had to have been in an enclosed space with him.
And further, any of the cuts he had would clearly cause bloodstains on the murderer, and more importantly, no bloodstains in the car where the murderer would have been.
That physical evidence of a person attacking him in his car would be open and shut and it doesn't exist.
Then you have to consider that these murderers would have to think it was a good idea to not kill him in the car where they've already done most of the work, but instead drag him a mile away.
After attacking him in the car, he's bleeding but not dead, possibly still conscious.
They'd have to be dragging him for a mile and a half.
It's very fair to assume that that would take 45 minutes to 50 minutes.
Generously to cover that amount of ground in that conditions.
The murderers would have had to, for zero reason, risked being out in the open with their victim mid-murder for almost an hour when at any point he could scream or anyone could accidentally stumble on their path.
That makes no sense from any perspective.
The job that needed to be done could have been done right there in the car.
Then, for no reason, they would have to choose an arbitrary spot where, I guess, they walked far enough where they decide to shoot Terrence in the head, which they very much could have done at any point, or even back at the car.
This is a terrible plan, and no one would have done it.
It's much easier to rationalize the idea that he had tried to slash his wrists and throat and realized he couldn't do it.
He couldn't do it to the extent that he wanted to end his life, and he couldn't do it that way.
The exact reason for leaving the car is anyone's guess.
I don't pretend to have any idea what it would be, but it could have been a fear that an errant shot, if he was shooting himself, could have blown up the car and caused excess damage to the field he was in, like a wildfire or something like that.
The idea that he would wander towards his childhood hometown, El Reno, which is close to where his body was found, and then finish the suicide there makes total sense.
I have no idea what the reality is but there could have been a sentimental attachment to the place where he ended his life or it could just be as simple as that it's where he fell and ran out of enough strength to carry on.
The idea that there was a downward trajectory to the bullet that went through his head.
That is another piece of evidence that people bring up as evidence of a murder.
Great.
That's not indicative that he didn't shoot the shot.
There are a hundred different possible explanations for that.
One of the easier ones is that it would be the safest way to shoot yourself.
If you're expecting a possible in-and-out shot, an upward trajectory could lead that bullet to hitting someone or something else if it goes up and out.
Beyond that, a downward trajectory kind of just feels natural.
If you put a fake gun to your head like this, it kind of feels like there's a little bit of a downward trajectory to it.
So I read an article in People magazine that was about him, and it said, quote, he joined the Oklahoma City police in 1990 and was called up for service in the Persian Gulf in December.
There, his duties included the mass burial of civilians killed in the war.
Quote, when he came back, you could tell there was a major change in him, said his sister Vicki.
He wasn't the same.
There's an incredibly high likelihood that what was happening was that he suffered from PTSD, and this PTSD was re-triggered by his experience in the Oklahoma City bombing.
The former Canadian County Sheriff, Clint Bowler, that's the county that El Reno is in, who claims to have known Yakey, doesn't concur with the analysis of murder.
Bowler said that Yaqui showed up at his house in El Reno on the afternoon of his death.
His car stopped at an angle in the middle of the road.
When Bowler and his girlfriend Kate Allen, a paramedic, ran outside, they found a police officer virtually passed out.
Quote, he couldn't tell us his name initially, said Allen.
He was ill.
He was very anxious.
His heart rate was rapid.
He was sweaty.
He told us he'd been having concentration problems.
He hadn't slept.
He had all the appearances My first guess would be, of someone who was having emotional problems.
And my second guess would be...
Of course, some kind of substance abuse problem, but that's a pure guess.
Basically, they, and this again is a quote from Bowler, quote, basically they, and he's talking about Terrence's family, who he ended up calling to pick him up and ideally take him to the hospital.
Terrence refused to go to the hospital and his family just let him leave.
It appears that Terrence suffered from a severe combination of PTSD from the horrors he experienced in the Gulf, mixed with survivor's guilt of not being able to save more people in Oklahoma City.
Not to mention further PTSD from experiencing that terrorist event as well.
Quote, The bombing of the Murrah building deepened Yankee's distress.
What others saw as his heroism, he regarded as failure.
He'd say, Had I not fallen, I could have saved more lives, recalls his biological mother, Almar Jarrah.
Terrence fell and hurt his back in his efforts to rescue people at the Murrow building, something that he was deeply ashamed about, and most likely led to him being prescribed opiates to deal with the pain.
It's unclear if that was the case, but it is said repeatedly that he was on a number of medications and is a very common prescription that's made in cases of consistent pain.
Quote, he was taking medications for his back, said Canadian County Sheriff Clint Bowler.
He had four or five medications in his car.
Terrence absolutely was at the Murrah Building.
He definitively saved four to eight people that day, depending on the source.
And there's photographic evidence that he was there.
His ex-wife, Tawny Rivera, alleges that he wasn't there, or that he said that he wasn't there, which indicates her either not quoting him well or testifies to him being in a very bad emotional state when he said something along those lines to her.
Additionally, in a reflection of behaviors that are unfortunately common in returning soldiers struggling with PTSD, Terrence appears to have had a history of making violent threats.
Quote, in a fit of temper, Yakey had once threatened to take his life and those of his wife and children.
So he had been in that sort of state after the bombing.
It makes zero sense that, quote, they would wait 13 months to kill this person who had allegedly seen evidence that the whole thing was a setup.
Many of the arguments that are made involving his fall that happened while he was in his rescue efforts during during the rescue efforts have to do with the idea that he fell through some floors and then saw undefined.
Sure.
Great.
With zero evidence of anything.
Perfect.
People just making stuff up.
In the absence of any truth or factually based indication that that is the case, People say that that is what he was dealing with.
This is pure fiction, using some basic details, like the fall, the tragic suicide, etc., and forcing them to fit the predetermined conclusion that these people want to push forth, i.e., white terrorism is never real.
It's always false flags done by the government, meant to demonize white people and take away guns.
So the other further evidence about this goes like this.
Quote, "While attending a social function, Rivera claims her sister had a chance encounter with a mortician who worked on Yakey's body.
She was discussing the strange inconsistencies of his death with someone at the party when the mortician, not knowing the woman was Rivera's sister, spoke up.
Quote, "That sounds like just like a police officer we worked on in Oklahoma City," he said.
When asked if the man happened to be Terrence Yakey, the mortician freaked.
Apparently Terrence Yakey's murderers and those covering up his death had not counted on this particular mortician's testimony.
This story that's being told is a completely unnamed, alleged mortician that Rivera is claiming that Terrence's sister ran into an unspecified social function, who out of nowhere brings up that he'd seen evidence of a horrible cover-up of a murder of a policeman who was involved in the Oklahoma City bombing, and whose name the mortician clearly remembered.
But at the same time, there was a pension that she stood to be allowed if it wasn't a suicide.
And she has a very strong financial interest in terms of...
Making it seem like it.
And again, I just have to be clear because I know nothing about her except for that her statements that she's made that most of the conspiracies about this guy revolve around and go back to don't make sense.
No, there's no way we can sit here and paint him as an entirely positive figure.
But the idea of turning him into someone who was going to unleash this information, again, 13 months after he would have had that fall, when he could have done any of this at any point, or told people definitively what he was going to reveal, or have any of his things on a dead drop.
Alex Jones and this...
Charles Key guy trying to create a character in their story, much the same way Alex has been trying to do with Anthony Bourdain after his suicide.
The point that I was trying to make about this, just because it's such an umbrella thing, the narrative that he's pushing about these states declaring their sovereignty...
Is very clearly in service of those beliefs that he has about Oklahoma City.
He's using this narrative in order to hope that something happens in one of those states.
And then he could be like, it's just like Oklahoma City over again.
This guy enters the pantheon of people who I kind of dig.
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I'd like you to know that a lot of us couples listen to your show all the time, and my wife made an interesting comment, and I think I'm going to pass it on to you.
She would like to see you have more women that are involved in the Patriot movement and the Second Amendment movement on your show as guests.
I dig that guy being like, my wife wants you to know you don't have ladies on, and I fucking agree with her, but I'm still going to make it her comment.
And what happens is people that give out hundreds or thousands of copies, and this has ended up in the newspaper.
I don't know if you heard me tell the Kelly Rushing case.
He was giving out my video and a Ron Paul video, and they charged him for my video and the Ron Paul video, saying it was threatening to police that they didn't like it.
And it went to court, and the jury found him not guilty.
But, like the federal marshal said last year, in the case of airports, a little kid taking a picture with a camera, they're on the terror list for life.
Nope.
Anything.
Order a different meal on the plane.
Terror list for life.
They said, this is wrong, but we have to show there's a terror threat.
So, these guys don't like the fact you're handing videos out in town.
It's so disgraceful that he's just like, yeah, probably the Fed's broke into your house and what you need to do is become even more radicalized to my team.
And all the esprit de corps, George Washington, all of it.
That bullshit.
It's all gone.
It's all over.
Just like when Hitler took over the military.
I'm sorry.
Are the individual troops bad?
No.
But all this brainwashing, and we've got to worship what they do, that's getting you ready for them here in the United States, and that's on record now.
I'll get to all your calls tomorrow.
We're just flat out of time.
At the start of the show, I cover how they're going to ration health care.
This is so incredible.
This isn't the Republicans claiming this.
This is the Democrats saying it.
But before we go any further, gold is still up at the 920 level.
Again, this is the primordial ooze from which the modern-day ad pivots will eventually come.
So, Jordan, over this course, the thing that I think is the most important is that one of Alex Jones' pillars in his Oklahoma City narrative is bullshit.
Right.
And as we go on, and he says more specifics, I'll find out what the truth of those are, too.
But also, beyond that, this narrative of the states are declaring their sovereignty.
It's very relevant to modern day stuff because sovereignty is what he has a boner for now.
It's very relevant that he's only really using that as an interstitial way to set the table to make propaganda if an attack happens in one of those states.
And it's clear because he never is dealing with the fact that all of those resolutions are the same.
All of those House resolutions that are put in by all these states are the same.
They're coming from the same people.
They are a coordinated group of quote-unquote patriot weirdos who are doing this.
He's trying to present it as like it's burgeoning up in all of these states.
And he's also not dealing with the fact that in the same way that he doesn't address those FEMA camp bills that he makes people so scared of aren't real and they've never made it out of committee.
Most of these don't make it out of committee, and most of the time people are like, we don't have to make a resolution that the law is the law.
We're not scared that a black guy is the president.
And that's really what's driving the other half of this.
It is a never-ending source of irony for me that immediately after Obama got elected...
The conservative media went hard into him turning into a tyrant, putting people in camps, doing all of this shit, and then at their first opportunity they elect a guy who does all the shit that they thought Obama was going to do.