Today, Dan takes Jordan on a Time Travelling adventure, as directed by Policy Wonk Ian, who suggested the gents go back to June 2013 to find out how Alex Jones responded on his own show after his disastrous appearance on BBC Sunday Politics. Tune in to find out, and learn about Anti-Monopoly Musical Chairs as a bonus.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Sup? | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Sup? | ||
| If you were to wear a jacket, one, perhaps the single most... | ||
| Disrespectful jacket that you could possibly wear. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I would imagine it would be me showing up for our live podcast that we did in Austin last week with a t-shirt or a jacket that says, I don't know anything about Alex. | ||
| That's not even right. | ||
| That would be the reverse. | ||
| This is insensitive to the realities of the world we have. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| This bit is not working out. | ||
| I know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| I don't know anything about Alex Jones. | ||
| So, that's the theme of the podcast. | ||
| Today, Jordan, we've got a real fun episode to go over. | ||
| Good. | ||
| But before we do that, I would like to spend a tiny bit of your time here just to give away a couple thank yous. | ||
| Giving them away. | ||
| Giving them away. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Come on down! | ||
| They're just giving them away! | ||
| I'd like to thank a couple of new donors who have signed up. | ||
| First, I'd like to say thank you so much, George. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| We appreciate it. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much for signing up with the team, George. | ||
| George, hey! | ||
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Hey! | |
| Also, I'd like to thank William for signing up and becoming a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much, William. | ||
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Hey, William. | |
| You know what's weird? | ||
| What's up? | ||
| My best friend when I was like six years old, his name was William and his older brother's name was George. | ||
| I assume it's the two of them. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I assume they text back and forth and they were like, we gotta donate to this show. | ||
| Never actually listened to the show before. | ||
| I would suggest the possibility is much higher than its very common names. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Two of the most common names. | ||
| Possible. | ||
| In fact. | ||
| Possible. | ||
| So, Jordan, today, what we're doing is I started listening to a little bit of modern day stuff and I said goodbye. | ||
| Hard pass. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| None of that. | ||
| He had an interview with a guy named The Amazing Jason, I believe. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| And I was like, oh my god, is Alex interviewing magicians now? | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Is that The Amazing Jonathan's brother? | ||
| It's not. | ||
| Is that like Gallagher 2? | ||
| Did he sell his act to his brother? | ||
| No, it's a former bodybuilder slash MAGA African American YouTube guy. | ||
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Alright, alright. | |
| And I was like, oh god, this isn't a magician. | ||
| He's got a busy life going on right there. | ||
| I said former bodybuilder. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Oh, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| There's a lot going on. | ||
| I don't want none of it. | ||
| Yeah, so that was really disappointing. | ||
| But, like, all the stuff is pretty much exactly what you'd expect. | ||
| It's just, you know, I don't really... | ||
| I don't want to do it. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I don't want to talk about his perspective on the present. | ||
| And it just so happens that we... | ||
| Because his perspective is kill non-whites. | ||
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That's it. | |
| It's very heavily that, yeah. | ||
| So, instead, today we will be going in our time travel machine. | ||
| Finally! | ||
| And going back and honoring a request of one of our... | ||
| One of our donors who donated on the time travel level. | ||
| And again, if you'd like to support the show, you can go to knowledgefight.com, click support the show. | ||
| We do appreciate it. | ||
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Indeed. | |
| And today, we are fulfilling the request. | ||
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Prophecy. | |
| It is a prophetic. | ||
| There's not. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But today, we are going back in time on the behest of Policy Wonk Ian. | ||
| Who has told us to go back to June 11th, 2013. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| June 11th, 2013? | ||
| Do you have any idea why we might be going back? | ||
| June 11th, 2013, so that's eight years after Obama was re-elected. | ||
| Wait, wait, hold on. | ||
| He stopped the Iraq War. | ||
| That was when he... | ||
| Did you say eight years after he got re-elected? | ||
| Yeah, and that was when he closed Guantanamo Bay, right? | ||
| Uh, no. | ||
| I think I might be living in the alternate reality where life isn't shit. | ||
| Here's a clue of what we're going to be talking about. | ||
| I hate myself every minute I'm on this show. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Good, yeah, good, good. | ||
| You nailed it. | ||
| So actually, that's a little prophetic. | ||
| In terms of public opinion. | ||
| Not enough! | ||
| Not enough, Alex! | ||
| So, let's see. | ||
| I don't think I want to tell you why this date was chosen. | ||
| You'd just rather let it unfold in front of me? | ||
| I think it'll be pretty clear pretty quick. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm not sure, but this was a good choice. | ||
| I'll say that. | ||
| Okay, alright, alright. | ||
| Here's where we start. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, it is Tuesday, June 11th, 2013. | ||
| I am your host, Alex Jones, and we are going to be live here, Lord willing, for the next three hours. | ||
| Wow, it is good to be back in studio here in Austin, Texas. | ||
| By the grace of God, I was able to successfully transport over to the UK and have the biggest victory ever against the Bilderberg Group. | ||
| He has just scored the biggest victory. | ||
| The biggest victory ever. | ||
| Ever against the Bilderberg. | ||
| For everybody or just for him? | ||
| Perhaps a personal record. | ||
| Perhaps personal record. | ||
| Is this like right after? | ||
| No, because the interview that he did was like... | ||
| In 2011, wasn't it? | ||
| That was June 9th, 2013. | ||
| Okay, there it is! | ||
| There it is! | ||
| There we go! | ||
| So, as a refresher, the request was made to go back to this date because Alex Jones had just gone on BBC's Sunday show and made a complete asshole of himself on June 9th. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And then Mike Adams filled in for him on the 10th, and then we have here the 11th. | ||
| Just as a refresher for everyone who doesn't remember this moment in Alex Jones' history, here is a clip. | ||
| Of Alex being a fuck on their show. | ||
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Yes, I mean, if you talk to Alex for any length of time, you discover all kinds of things that you didn't know about the world. | |
| We've blown it wide open. | ||
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You have. | |
| You have absolutely blown it wide open. | ||
| But it leaves me with a huge question for you, Alex. | ||
| You have uncovered the New World Order, which is deadly. | ||
| It's full of what you call people as criminals. | ||
| Well, this is what I'm coming to. | ||
| It's full of criminals, etc., who seek to run the world and will kill anybody who gets in their way. | ||
| And you... | ||
| Are almost, have been a lone crusader powering against them. | ||
| So, how come? | ||
| How am I alive? | ||
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How are you still alive? | |
| Why am I alive? | ||
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Which is the explanation. | |
| One, they don't exist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or two, you're part of the conspiracy. | ||
| No, let me tell you a story. | ||
| Let me tell you a story. | ||
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I say the first. | |
| Five years ago when Obama and Hillary. | ||
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I say the second. | |
| Five years ago when Hillary and Obama. | ||
| We're at Bilderberg, and the Secret Service was there in helicopters. | ||
| The New York Times came out and said, I was crazy. | ||
| There was no Bilderberg group meeting. | ||
| And my wife got phone calls, and so did I, threatening to kill us. | ||
| And the people said, and you better take it serious, because you were just talking to your dad that was in the hospital. | ||
| You better shut your mouth, or we're going to cut your head off. | ||
| If they were going to kill you, they wouldn't threaten us. | ||
| They listen to everybody's phone lines. | ||
| They call up and harass people that expose them and tell them. | ||
| And tell them what they were just talking about. | ||
| They're going to say there's no spying. | ||
| It's like Nazi Germany. | ||
| The only spy on the bad guys, huh? | ||
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You let him speak now. | |
| I saw one of your ministers say this, though. | ||
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Alex, I'm here to testify that your head was not cut off. | |
| So if you missed there at the end a little bit... | ||
| Shut up, Fairbub. | ||
| And then immediately Alex is like, Infowars.com. | ||
| I think that's actually a verbal tick of his. | ||
| If you tell him to shut up, he just says Infowars.com. | ||
| Like Cake Boss. | ||
| That interview does end with Alex screaming over them as they end the show. | ||
| And the host of the show saying, you are the worst guest I've ever had. | ||
| We have an idiot on the program. | ||
| That was a fun one. | ||
| And then the host, of course, came out and said that as soon as the show went off the air, Alex went back to normal. | ||
| And started being like, hey guys, how's it going? | ||
| Hey, we just did a great show there, right? | ||
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That's pretty awesome. | |
| Yeah, you got what you wanted, I look crazy, I got what I wanted, I look crazy. | ||
| Yeah, so that is going to come back up, Alex's feelings on it. | ||
| I guess that's his victory over Bilderberg, maybe, I don't know. | ||
| Yep, he did it. | ||
| Because there's not a lot more in this episode that relates to that that he could be referencing. | ||
| But most of this episode is probably, you could say, about TSA spying, sort of. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| TSA or NSA? | ||
| NSA. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I was like, is the TSA spying now? | ||
| The Transportation Securities? | ||
| Are they doing it? | ||
| No, you know why I got confused? | ||
| Because if they're spying on us, I don't want to take my fucking shoes off to get on a plane, right? | ||
| You're already spying on me. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| That's insult to injury, sir. | ||
| He's mad about the NSA spying, but he's also mad about TSA because he's gone... | ||
| He had to go through customs on his way back from England. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So that's why I'm confusing the two because he complains a lot about both of them. | ||
| Suffice it to say, he's on board with Snowden. | ||
| He's pretty thrilled with him. | ||
| He's mad that other people aren't. | ||
| And then he spends an inordinate amount of time on this episode talking about ways that you can block... | ||
| The NSA spying on you and, like, try and create rogue problems for them? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Got to create rogue problems for the NSA. | ||
| This doesn't track really well, but he says this a bunch. | ||
| They've got keyword software. | ||
| And, by the way, the hackers today are countering all this with terrorist terms online. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, that is not what will jam this up. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| You talk about the latest patent you're about to go for. | ||
| You talk about a medical development. | ||
| You talk about how you caught a congressman doing something illegal. | ||
| That will give them so many headaches. | ||
| Talk about how you're a whistleblower that's going to go public. | ||
| I've got a big whistleblower coming on today that will expose that Obama is trying to transfer nuclear weapons to Al-Qaeda. | ||
| Ooh, boy! | ||
| That right there will give them headaches for days. | ||
| Talk about how you're going to try to stop a terror attack. | ||
| They're running in a drill. | ||
| That gets flagged. | ||
| They're there to make sure the terrorists attack us. | ||
| So you want to jam it. | ||
| Talk about making sure we stop terrorists. | ||
| Big laugh. | ||
| Weird big laugh. | ||
| That's like, I got two seconds left till break. | ||
| Gotta fill it. | ||
| Wait, I'm looking at my... | ||
| Okay, we're out. | ||
| Already committed to laughing a little bit. | ||
| Gotta keep it going. | ||
| We're out to break. | ||
| Human. | ||
| Humans do this. | ||
| Humans delight in fun. | ||
| I don't know about that strategy. | ||
| At what point does he just start saying human laughter instead of fake laughing? | ||
| Human laughing. | ||
| They'll never catch us. | ||
| Human laughter. | ||
| If you're not following what he's saying in that clip, he's basically saying just talk about patents in front of your washing machine or your toaster because they're listening to you and that'll get you SWAT team. | ||
| Alexa. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're just, hey, I'm going to stop a terrorist attack. | ||
| Cherries and berries coming down the block. | ||
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All the time. | |
| You're going to get SWAT teamed. | ||
| Can't help it. | ||
| So I don't think that happened. | ||
| So they have keyword trackers. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That is obvious. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because of course they do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But hackers are fighting back by flooding the internet with terrorism words? | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| I think I remember this a little bit. | ||
| People's response seemed to be that if you could give enough false leads, it would overwhelm the software. | ||
| So if you could just constantly be writing stuff about bombs or IEDs or something like that, there was a belief that you could trick wild goose chases. | ||
| For the NSA to make it not worth their time or not financially viable to use this system. | ||
| But if I know anything about the system, it's that it was already Ridiculous. | ||
| And that it did not work because it was already flooded with too much information. | ||
| I'm sure it was. | ||
| When you're monitoring the domestic communications of the entire country, there's so much information there that you can't possibly find a needle in that haystack. | ||
| The only reason you have that is so if you want to find something, you know where to look for it. | ||
| Of course, but that is a reasonable response for someone to have, just a first thought. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Kind of thing. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| If this makes sense, that this would be a way to get around this. | ||
| Ha! | ||
| Trick chip! | ||
| Let's set off every alarm, and then the whole system will be moot. | ||
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Right. | |
| But, I don't know, Alex's strategy seems more fun. | ||
| I just picture all of his listeners yelling at toasters about shit. | ||
| We're gonna stop terrorism! | ||
| You're not that brave, you piece of shit! | ||
| You and me, toaster. | ||
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You and me. | |
| We're gonna get to the bottom of this. | ||
| So, Alex's perception there is a little screwy, and I think he's doing his listeners a disservice by misrepresenting what had come out about the NSA and what have you. | ||
| But, one of the reasons I believe that he's misrepresenting things is because I don't think he understands reality. | ||
| Or... | ||
| As evidenced by this next clip, he talks about going through the TSA line, and what he's describing, I believe, is a very positive encounter with somebody. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I hear this description, and I will say that all I hear is a TSA agent being polite and courteous. | ||
| Maybe even going above and beyond their responsibilities. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Alex feels like he's being attacked. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And it's super thin soup. | ||
| Just like our government is caught shipping in the majority of narcotics, but then I fly into the country and went through four checkpoints in Dallas now. | ||
| Four. | ||
| Four checkpoints getting back into the U.S. and had the customs people with my passport saying, this expires in a year and a half. | ||
| You need to get a new one. | ||
| And I said, wow, you're really on a power trip. | ||
| Do you know who I am? | ||
| Thinking she was persecuting me. | ||
| And she goes, no. | ||
| And I said, well, is it illegal to have a passport that expires a year and a half? | ||
| Well, I just think you need to get a new one. | ||
| Is there something wrong with this one? | ||
| And she just sits there staring at me. | ||
| It was like, you know, Janet Reno type. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| She was a Janet Reno type. | ||
| I hear that. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I don't care. | ||
| All I hear there is essentially someone being like, hey, this is going to expire soon. | ||
| You should probably be vigilant and get a new one. | ||
| That's exactly what I heard as well. | ||
| I think it's a really nice thing to do because passports expire once every 10 years or something like that. | ||
| You could easily forget. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would have no idea when my passport expires. | ||
| Literally saying that was like... | ||
| Oh, this expires in a year. | ||
| You might want to think about getting a new one. | ||
| It's probably a smart idea to get a new one that way. | ||
| It's easier to get a new one before it expires than the whole process you're going to have to go through afterwards. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That is undoubtedly someone just trying to be considerate. | ||
| That's the nicest thing that you could say. | ||
| But she's sitting up there on a power trip like Janet Reno. | ||
| Oh, you must be power tripping right now. | ||
| I don't even understand why that is a power trip. | ||
| Even if she is saying that maliciously or saying that in the most... | ||
| Possible way you can be malicious with that? | ||
| I still don't see how that's a power trip. | ||
| No, and she clearly let him use this one, so it's not like, you can't use this, it expires on a year and a half. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| That's stupid. | ||
| No, that doesn't make any sense. | ||
| None of this makes sense. | ||
| Also, the way he said it, too, is, like, really suspect, and that is that, like... | ||
| She said that you need to get a new one. | ||
| It expires in a year and a half. | ||
| And I said, do you know who I am? | ||
| Because I thought she was persecuting me. | ||
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Right. | |
| That means you're ready to be persecuted wherever you go. | ||
| Pretty much all the time. | ||
| And you're looking for it. | ||
| Now, here's my working thesis on this. | ||
| Alex Jones doesn't fly internationally all that much. | ||
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Of course not. | |
| He has very few opportunities to get his own personal story about being harassed by TSA agents and customs people. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| And so he needs to make the most out of it whenever it happens. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And when it's something like this that's super polite, he's got to like, see what I can do with this. | ||
| See if I can change your tone just slightly. | ||
| See, now we've got to go back and... | ||
| Every time Alex has taken an international flight, I imagine the next day there has been a bitching about... | ||
| It's his version of being like, really? | ||
| I have to take my shoes off because one guy put a bomb in there one time ten years ago? | ||
| He's just bitching about it. | ||
| He's jealous of people who actually get singled out, i.e. | ||
| not white people. | ||
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Right. | |
| And he wants his own claim to victimhood. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he doesn't have one, so he has to say, like, oh my god, she was so considerate to me, but the way I'm presenting it is I was a victim! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| I was such a victim! | ||
| I had a... | ||
| The worst TSA experience I had was coming back from London, and I was almost home. | ||
| I was almost home. | ||
| I was right to the very last checkpoint. | ||
| At O 'Hare. | ||
| And this fucking guy, it's like 8 in the morning. | ||
| I've been on the plane for 9 hours. | ||
| I've got my headphones in. | ||
| Clearly I can't see straight. | ||
| And this guy was just a fucking dick to me the whole time. | ||
| Would not fucking... | ||
| I just wanted to try and hand him... | ||
| The fucking ID, and he's like slapping away his headphones. | ||
| Get your headphones out. | ||
| Just screaming at me. | ||
| Well, to be fair, it's a little rude. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That was the worst experience. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| It wasn't that bad. | ||
| Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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And it was 50-50 on me, you know? | |
| And this was a very polite interaction. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I see nothing. | ||
| Anyway, let's finish this clip. | ||
| But so far I see zero to be worried about, Alex. | ||
| This is not totalitarian. | ||
| Stomping all over you in terms of... | ||
| What is politeness but not the totalitarianism of the kind? | ||
| You make a fair point. | ||
| And then a pilot walks over and says, I just want to shake your hand. | ||
| And they don't mess with the pilots too much because they'll throw fits and get back in their face. | ||
| And then I was going through waiting for my reporter to come through. | ||
| I was just down the hall towards the next checkpoint. | ||
| And they're like... | ||
| Don't wait! | ||
| Get out of here! | ||
| And I just watched them being rude to everybody. | ||
| And then we had to go back through TSA again. | ||
| Again! | ||
| It was incredible. | ||
| That's not... | ||
| This is weak. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| This is very weak. | ||
| We had to go back through there again. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| They were being rude to people. | ||
| Very vague. | ||
| And like, alright, sure. | ||
| Maybe they... | ||
| It would be nice if they were nicer. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Who cares? | ||
| What? | ||
| They... | ||
| Process like a thousand people every hour or something insane like that. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And some of those people are way bigger assholes than... | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| If you've ever worked in any kind of customer service situation, you know assholes abound for no reason, let alone one fraught with anxiety over traveling. | ||
| People's tensions are so high at airports. | ||
| And you're treated like a criminal before you even, you know, like that whole thing. | ||
| Even before 9-11, tensions were high at airports, because a lot of people are anxious about flying. | ||
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Yep. | |
| A lot of it is really tight schedules, and because of the nature of weather... | ||
| And things that are completely outside of our control, sometimes flights get delayed and become complete disasters for people. | ||
| It's a really stressful experience just if there never was a TSA, if there never was terrorism, it would still be a scary or at least stressful experience to have to fly places. | ||
| Again, yeah. | ||
| So these people in a vacuum. | ||
| It makes sense why they would be rude. | ||
| A little rude. | ||
| They get far more slack than so many other rude people that you can experience. | ||
| Until it gets to a point where it's abusive and then I'm all against them. | ||
| No, they can go fuck themselves. | ||
| What I'm hearing here is zero. | ||
| This is a zero. | ||
| Or a, hey, have a great day. | ||
| Like, that's what I'm giving these TSA agents. | ||
| I'm confused about the pilot stereotype. | ||
| Is that a known thing that pilots do? | ||
| I feel like we're also, I mean, I don't know, but I also think we're past the point where, like... | ||
| Pilots being drunk is a stereotype that the youth probably understand. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, like, that used to be the thing in sitcoms, like, all the pilots are drunk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now I think everybody is... | ||
| I think most pilots aren't drunk. | ||
| No, I don't know. | ||
| Or at least they're better at hiding it. | ||
| But I don't know if they ever were, but it was that, like, sitcom stereotype. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think it's gone now for the kids. | ||
| Well, Denzel did it, and now we finished. | ||
| Was that that man on fire? | ||
| Hey, how's it going? | ||
| Call back. | ||
| We've only got one Denzel reference. | ||
| It's the only movie that exists. | ||
| So, it was not all bad for Alex at the airport. | ||
| He did end up meeting one super woke TSA agent that I don't think exists. | ||
| You should get it. | ||
| And they're like, please, just go! | ||
| Go! | ||
| And they go, we'll have to do the pat-down, but just... | ||
| And the guy's like, I know the NSA's spying on us. | ||
| I know it's all crap. | ||
| I just need this job. | ||
| By the way, a lot of us know what's going on. | ||
| Don't be so hard on us. | ||
| And those were all the nice ones. | ||
| It was the head ones giving orders that were like, shoes off! | ||
| Photo open to the page! | ||
| I told you, photo open to the page! | ||
| And they were sitting there just obsessive, compulsively. | ||
| The guy looked just like the person we're showing on the TV screen of your PrisonPlanet.tv viewer. | ||
| He's basically... | ||
| I mean, he shows a screenshot from the South Park episode about the TSA. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| And he's basically just describing the plot of that South Park episode. | ||
| That might be more what he's doing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| In terms of, like, fascistic people yelling... | ||
| The guy who's woke sounds like he's on meth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, it sounds like it doesn't exist. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I know the NSA's spying on us. | ||
| I know that they're doing it. | ||
| I think what you're doing is great. | ||
| Alex should be like... | ||
| Bring back the I need a new passport lady. | ||
| Please, please, please. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Scary. | ||
| I wouldn't want secret TSA messages. | ||
| I don't want that guy. | ||
| I would love a conspiratorial wink from a TSA agent just like... | ||
| Hey, you know this is all meaningless, right? | ||
| Come on, come on. | ||
| We just want to find your nudes. | ||
| Oh, man, I have stolen so many pairs of shoes people forget to take them with them. | ||
| I don't even care. | ||
| Finger guns, TSA agent. | ||
| Hey, we're just having a good time. | ||
| See, now that'd be fun. | ||
| Why don't more people turn the TSA experience into like a fun little what? | ||
| What I'm saying is I want TSA to be more like Cheers. | ||
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Oh, sure. | |
| When you go through the line, everybody should scream Norm. | ||
| Oh, like the TSA line is where everyone knows your name? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That means you fly too much. | ||
| So, in this next clip, this is my kind of fun right here, this next clip. | ||
| So, in the time that Alex was over in England, I guess, a Bloomberg article came out about how he... | ||
| Uses conspiracy and fear to sell gold. | ||
| Oh, Alex? | ||
| Yeah, which is one of those no-duh kind of things. | ||
| But Alex takes... | ||
| Can't trust them. | ||
| Bloomberg? | ||
| Bilderberg? | ||
| Bloomberg? | ||
| Done. | ||
| Very similar. | ||
| Done. | ||
| Proved it. | ||
| Alex has some pretty serious problems with people saying that he's trying to sell gold. | ||
| Yeah, look at the Bloomberg headline. | ||
| Alex Jones sells gold on Sirius with bombing conspiracies. | ||
| And Paul Watson's got an article about it going up on Infowars.com the next hour. | ||
| Just countering some of the baloney. | ||
| Perfect time for an ad pivot. | ||
| And again, why are they shooting at me politically? | ||
| By the way, we hardly sell any gold. | ||
| Gold is one of the smallest sponsorships we've got. | ||
| Unfortunately, I wish I could get more money and fund more stuff. | ||
| We got a good gold sponsor, high quality, good prices. | ||
| I started promoting gold when it was $300 an ounce or less. | ||
| It's been up to almost $2,000. | ||
| I've never sold any of the gold I've bought or silver. | ||
| Started promoting silver. | ||
| It was $5. | ||
| Didn't sell any of the stuff I have and it went to $50. | ||
| It was down to $30. | ||
| It didn't sell any of it. | ||
| It's an emergency for collapsing society. | ||
| That's sort of an ad pivot. | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| That is as much an ad pivot as you could reasonably do without it literally being like... | ||
| We're barely sponsored by Midas Resources. | ||
| Midas Resources, which has the best sales right now. | ||
| They have gold for $300 an ounce. | ||
| You couldn't beat that sale. | ||
| And it's so good that I've always held on to it. | ||
| And I'll never let it go. | ||
| How dare they say that all I want to do is sell gold. | ||
| I don't want to sell gold. | ||
| I'm giving gold away. | ||
| I want to hoard it. | ||
| The other thing, too, is that this, I think, is an FTC violation because he's presenting Blindest Resources as a sponsor as opposed to the parent company of Infowars. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| They own it entirely. | ||
| Well, not own it entirely, but they own the company that syndicates him. | ||
| And so their relationship is very different than just being a sponsor of the show. | ||
| They are responsible for syndication and for it being on radio stations around the country, which is not ownership, but it's beyond sponsorship. | ||
| And the nature of the ads, a lot of Alex Jones' ads are Genesis Communications Network ads that are run through the network, which is owned by Midas Resources. | ||
| So therefore, Midas Resources owns the ads that are paying Alex Jones revenue. | ||
| It's very complicated, and the fact that he says that their sponsors is fucked up, and then it's fucked up because we know, we've seen just how desperately he tries to sell gold. | ||
| And, like, the idea that he's saying, we barely sell gold. | ||
| It's like, you exist to sell gold. | ||
| Have you not heard of our soap? | ||
| I think... | ||
| I have got a limerick for you about how we never sell gold. | ||
| Well, but, like, I don't know. | ||
| Maybe Bob Chapman isn't around as much anymore, and, uh... | ||
| Maybe Alex doesn't remember how shameful he was in 2009. | ||
| But that to me was like, how dare you? | ||
| I mean, I understand you want to buck back at Bloomberg, the Triple B. But I still think it's awful. | ||
| It's awful to hear this sort of thing. | ||
| Like, dude, just cop to it. | ||
| You sell gold and silver. | ||
| You're fine. | ||
| Yeah, it's not really a problem, right? | ||
| You might be committing a crime in terms of misrepresenting it, but I guess it's not really a crime. | ||
| And it's not really that big of a deal, considering what else does Fox News sell, but things that are for fear and old people. | ||
| It's mostly old people gimmicky stuff. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| As seen on TV type nonsense. | ||
| That's as big of a crime as gold. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| At least gold is useful and doesn't break down after three weeks. | ||
| Easier to scam people with gold, though. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You can manipulate the value and shit like that. | ||
| Or at least the margins are better as a scam than as seen on TV. | ||
| You can say things are different carrots than they are, what have you. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex Jones gets into another thing that's going to be a theme throughout this episode, and that is... | ||
| He wants you to know that he's in danger and he's been scared. | ||
| I mean, Bloomberg's a creepy gangster. | ||
| Bloomberg and Silverstein have openly had their people come up to our reporters in New York on video. | ||
| It's in my film, Truth Rising, and said, listen, we're going to say your camera's a bomb. | ||
| We're going to put you in jail for 30 days, maybe longer. | ||
| You're not allowed to have this demonstration. | ||
| We have the permits. | ||
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We're here. | |
| And they said, look, with pipes. | ||
| Guys going, listen here. | ||
| Guys in suits with pipes. | ||
| Talking like worse than good fellas. | ||
| I mean, if they walked on a Hollywood set, they would have the job as the thugs. | ||
| But they're worse than good fellas. | ||
| Yeah, they're bad fellas. | ||
| Or average fellas, I guess, if they're worse than good. | ||
| Or medium. | ||
| I don't believe that. | ||
| I'll just... | ||
| You know, I reject that as an idea of a thing that happened. | ||
| I'm just a big fan of any conversation that begins with, listen, we're going to say your cameras are bombs. | ||
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Hey! | |
| Hey, Jordan, Jordan, I'm going to say your phone's a bomb. | ||
| I mean, at least it's upfront and honest. | ||
| I don't like people who bounce around the issues. | ||
| I don't like people who do a little dance trying to get you this way and that way. | ||
| Be upfront and honest if you're going to say that something I'm bringing with me is a bomb. | ||
| I love the pretending that these guys were walking around with pipes, too. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| There's other weapons. | ||
| No, there's regular pipe. | ||
| There's actually a concealed pipe carry law. | ||
| In New York? | ||
| That is going around in New York. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's true. | ||
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I read about that. | |
| The NPA is harshly against that. | ||
| I read about that on Bloomberg. | ||
| He's really in favor of carrying laws for pipes. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Alex gets death threats, too. | ||
| You should know that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then people like Luke Rudowski. | ||
| Real quick. | ||
| Luke Rudowski, if you don't remember, is the guy who's from We Are Change. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| Who is Infowars adjacent. | ||
| I don't know if he's an actual employee, but he pops up a lot. | ||
| You know, getting death-threaded at home, family getting death-threaded, the kind of calls where they're listening to your phone line and tell you what you're talking about, he gets those. | ||
| I don't know those calls. | ||
| No one does. | ||
| You and your family are dead. | ||
| And by the way, you know, we're listening to you. | ||
| You just said this earlier. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| Those kind of calls. | ||
| I mean, this is who runs the government. | ||
| I mean, they can kill whoever they want all over the world. | ||
| They love it. | ||
| It's a mafia. | ||
| It's their country now. | ||
| And this is the kind of stuff Luke's been arrested for just... | ||
| Asking Bloomberg a question. | ||
| I'm sure that's not why. | ||
| My reporters have been arrested. | ||
| I mean, these are thugs. | ||
| These are dirtbag gangsters. | ||
| And I'm going head up against them. | ||
| So we need your prayers first and foremost. | ||
| And we need your monetary support because we need to expand in the face of this new world order. | ||
| This is like watching a baby learn to crawl. | ||
| He's really close to that ad pivot level. | ||
| I mean, that is an ad pivot. | ||
| Yeah, but it wasn't... | ||
| Because he's talking about fear and how his reporters are being arrested and he's going to die and they're getting these cryptic phone calls that tell you what you've been saying and stuff like that. | ||
| Yeah, that was new. | ||
| He's using fear as a way to raise your emotional state and then mention we need your money because of these things I'm scaring you about. | ||
| So it is the primordial ooze from which the ad... | ||
| Pivot grew. | ||
| Yeah, it got good. | ||
| This is not yet... | ||
| Like, 2015 ad pivots were... | ||
| They're better. | ||
| Oftentimes, astonishingly good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think 2013, as I recall, is pretty early in his supplement company offerings. | ||
| This is when it begins? | ||
| Well, I don't know what month it started in, but I believe it was 2013 when things got going with a couple supplements. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, he's not into that mode yet, but he still wants your money. | ||
| You know those calls. | ||
| That you get all the time. | ||
| Where they're like, hey, I've been listening to you. | ||
| Here's what you were talking about earlier. | ||
| And you're like, right. | ||
| You know those? | ||
| Haven't you had that experience so many times in the past? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is he talking about, like, I think we're talking about, like, 1950s operator-type phone calls where there actually is somebody listening? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Party lines? | ||
| You're talking about, like, small towns would have, like, a party line going. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| No. | ||
| What is he talking about? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think it's something that, I mean, it sounds good in terms of scary, you know? | ||
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Does it? | |
| Well, yeah. | ||
| I mean, if you, if you, if you, I don't believe all of his ideas about the nature of the spying that's going on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It does track that someone would be listening to him and would be like, hey, I'm going to kill you. | ||
| And here's what you were talking about earlier. | ||
| It works if you're already in, I think. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But if you're not and you look at it, you're like, I don't think that happens. | ||
| That's absurd. | ||
| I think that's just silly. | ||
| I think that's silly. | ||
| That's not even an effective threat. | ||
| If somebody did that to me, I'd be like... | ||
| Are you okay? | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
| Are you bored? | ||
| Do you need a friend? | ||
| Can't you be doing something else? | ||
| How do you feel? | ||
| About what we just talked about. | ||
| The other thing is that the British guy in the clip we played at the top of the show is the best logical response to it. | ||
| It's like, no one would do that. | ||
| They'd just kill you. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Why would they bother you? | ||
| Yeah, why would they do... | ||
| You're a fucking loud-mouthed guy who screams about everything and has no filter on the radio. | ||
| If we threaten you, you're going to talk about it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why would we do that? | ||
| And not just... | ||
| It doesn't serve anyone's interest. | ||
| So either they're not real or he's part of the conspiracy. | ||
| Our position since day one has been, they're not real. | ||
| So, I think I'm gonna stick with that one. | ||
| But even, like, the idea that he has of, like, they can't kill me, I'm too publicly against them. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| He's like, no! | ||
| It really would not be hard to kill you because there are so many alternate explanations for why you could die. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| He could die of literally any kind of, like, oh, he had a heart attack. | ||
| And everybody would be like, yeah, he totally had a heart attack. | ||
| But that's why he's built into his narrative that the globalists can kill you through giving you a heart attack and, like, wave weapons and stuff like that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And you even heard that on our last episode with the Project Camelot guy, his associate Vince. | ||
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Vinny! | |
| They gave him a heart attack. | ||
| Vinny the caver. | ||
| Right, they gave him a heart attack. | ||
| Walking around carrying pipes, Vinny. | ||
| It's consistent throughout these paranoid folk that the idea is anything that's natural causes probably isn't. | ||
| It could be suspicious. | ||
| So no matter how I die, believe the worst. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Okay, well then just shoot him. | ||
| Well, we saw what happened with that with Seth Rich. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know, in terms of... | ||
| People not believing a shooting could be just something that unfortunately happens. | ||
| Right, but if nothing matters... | ||
| There is no explanation that satisfies the paranoid mind. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So then it doesn't matter. | ||
| But they don't exist, so they're not going to kill him. | ||
| I know they don't exist. | ||
| Second of all, they don't exist, so they're not making this phone call. | ||
| Even if they did exist, nobody... | ||
| They wouldn't be making that phone call. | ||
| Only a child would think that's a good way to go about things. | ||
| And if this is an organization that's been behind the scenes for hundreds of years since before the invention of the telephone, they fucking know. | ||
| They're like, this isn't the best way to go about this. | ||
| This guy is, you know, he's not threatenable, but he is buyable, so maybe we invest in his gold company. | ||
| Might not be a bad idea. | ||
| I think that would be the way someone would go about it. | ||
| I think. | ||
| If anyone wanted to corrupt Alex, it would not be through threats or anything like that. | ||
| It would be through greenbacks. | ||
| Or just saying nice things about him. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Flattery works. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Flattery and money work with Alex. | ||
| Yeah, you can save a lot of money by just saying nice things about Alex. | ||
| He'll do whatever you want. | ||
| So, earlier in the show, we did see an example of him trying to explain the best way... | ||
| To try and jam up the NSA spying. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| By yelling at your toaster. | ||
| He goes about it here in the show. | ||
| The way this spins is so funny to me. | ||
| Jam the networks with messages about terror attack. | ||
| Bombing, Al-Qaeda. | ||
| That is not what jams it. | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| Let me tell you what jams it. | ||
| Yes, we have photos of the defense intelligence operatives that were there with the Patsy's in command of them on April 15th, and we're releasing that data. | ||
| We're releasing that data today at 2 o 'clock Central. | ||
| Now, that will flag all the computers out there. | ||
| All of them? | ||
| Now, we don't actually have that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Cool. | |
| Cool. | ||
| That part will not flag the computers. | ||
| Saying that you do flags, immediately following it up with, I was lying, does not flag. | ||
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I am bluffing, quite seriously. | |
| I just like his, no, no, no, no, guys, you're telling the wrong lies. | ||
| You're lying wrong. | ||
| You don't even know how to lie. | ||
| Yeah, I'm good at this. | ||
| So April 15th is in reference to the Boston bombing. | ||
| He's talking about... | ||
| The Boston bombing, because I've been looking into this a little bit, and I think that as much as he became popular after 9-11, and his stock grew quite a bit, I think that the post-Boston bombing period for him was probably the most, like, the modern, most organic growth he's seen. | ||
| Because of the... | ||
| It was one of the early ones I know that I remember. | ||
| The internet conspiracy community going buck wild along with him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In terms of trying to search through pictures to try and find culprits and stuff like that. | ||
| The internet sleuthing community went crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's a decent chance that there was more of it even before this that I just don't realize. | ||
| But I know it went pretty crazy in terms of very irresponsibly pinning the blame. | ||
| On various people. | ||
| Yeah, they fucked up a few people's lives. | ||
| Yeah, there were some pretty serious consequences from it. | ||
| And I know that Alex made a lot of hay out of that. | ||
| And so this is right in the, what would you call it? | ||
| Right after that. | ||
| It's sort of in the evening of that. | ||
| The honeymoon period. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, where things are still, like, I think he's gaining a lot of momentum, and then he went over to England, screamed at them for a little bit. | ||
| Always a good idea. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| If you're from Texas, you have to go to England at least once and scream at somebody on TV. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And so in that clip... | ||
| It's their mecca. | ||
| He's positing and bringing up this idea that he's going to reveal the evidence. | ||
| That he's right and these people were patsies and stuff. | ||
| Now, admittedly, he doesn't have it. | ||
| He doesn't have it. | ||
| He also does say it later that, like, he's already put it out. | ||
| I don't think he has. | ||
| Even though he doesn't have it? | ||
| He doesn't have it. | ||
| I don't know any... | ||
| I've looked at his proof and I find it to be weak. | ||
| But I do think that he would like to present his trip to the UK as a smashing success. | ||
| First of all, the greatest victory of all time over the Bilderbergs. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But I think he's bent out of shape a little bit about the interview. | ||
| I think he's in a bad headspace. | ||
| And that comes out in this next clip. | ||
| I don't care! | ||
| I make a break with you now! | ||
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I see you, I know who you are, and I say, attack me all you want. | |
| I don't care. | ||
| Give it all to me. | ||
| Whatever it is. | ||
| Whatever happens. | ||
| I want the whole truth and nothing but the truth. | ||
| So help me, God Almighty. | ||
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I have sworn on the altar of God eternal resistance and defiance over every form of tyranny over the mind of humankind. | |
| So that clip starts with him saying, I don't care if you make fun of me. | ||
| And I think it's because a lot of people were making fun of him. | ||
| Rational minds see that UK interview and you hear the guy being like, I've got an idiot in studio and you're like, you do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You do. | ||
| This was rough. | ||
| Shut up, please. | ||
| Yeah, sorry you had to go through that. | ||
| This guy constantly interrupting and what have you. | ||
| And I think that he's probably getting a little bit of blowback about that. | ||
| And so he's kind of on edge a little bit. | ||
| Like, fuck. | ||
| I don't care if you make fun of me. | ||
| It's proof that I'm right. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Because all I care about is vigilance and God. | ||
| I like, I'm always, like, I don't know what it is, but there is something programmed into humankind that that Southern Baptist revivalist preacher talk is just, like, that form, that cadence is just so seductive. | ||
| Like, there's a reason that there were fucking kids like Marjo in the 20s leading that spiritualist revivalist movement having 20,000 people at their fucking shows. | ||
| Like, it's just such a fun... | ||
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Oh, and I can see into the heart of God! | |
| And he tells me that you are lying, sir! | ||
| There's a lyrical quality to it that evokes oral tradition cultures of the past. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| Like storytellers and even, to a certain extent, rappers. | ||
| There's a rhythmicness to it that is infectious. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, and with so many comics, you can tell 20 minutes of good jokes and then you can just ride on the rhythm taken care of. | ||
| Your next 20 can be boring, but people are so... | ||
| Esconced in this reaction to the rhythm that they'll laugh at anything. | ||
| Or even just like your rhythm can make your style legendary. | ||
| Not to say the jokes weren't good, but someone like Mitch Hedberg wouldn't be revered as he is. | ||
| Or Stephen Wright. | ||
| They just have perfect ways of speaking that you get caught up in. | ||
| You want to follow their rhythms. | ||
| Yeah, one of Mitch Hedberg's later jokes was, what if the headless horseman had a headless horse? | ||
| That would be fucking chaos. | ||
| And you're like, there's nothing, but the way he says it, you're like, that's great. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| You're fantastic. | ||
| And it's the rhythm over the content. | ||
| Yeah, there's something to that. | ||
| But, this is an interesting next clip. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because in it... | ||
| Alex makes a point that I think is weird, and that is that he believes this is a particularly tough time for us to hear this sort of thing. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| He wants to make the point that whites have a real tough time at the border. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I walked over to the intermediate border checkpoint flying back in. | ||
| I walked over nicely. | ||
| And said, hello, handed her my passport, praying that they wouldn't act like power-tripping, obsessive-compulsive mental patients. | ||
| And tell me that maybe I should get a new passport, because mine is going to expire eventually. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| She did. | ||
| Because I was watching them dress down, give little orders, dominate, and feed their power ego. | ||
| And if you look like you were a foreigner, if you look like you didn't, you know, you couldn't speak English. | ||
| He almost said, you don't belong here. | ||
| You heard that B there. | ||
| If you look like you were a foreigner. | ||
| You were right through. | ||
| It was citizens. | ||
| It was milk cows. | ||
| It was good-looking women. | ||
| It was people with kids that needed to be dressed down because the message, even in the TSA ads, this was Border Patrol. | ||
| Customs. | ||
| Even in the TSA ads, it says, we want you to be imperious. | ||
| Imperious. | ||
| Acting arrogant and imperial. | ||
| They want our will broken. | ||
| They want it broken now. | ||
| All of it's Pavlovian conditioning. | ||
| I think he has a word-a-day calendar. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say. | ||
| I don't even know if he's using that the way that he... | ||
| Yeah, he's not far off. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think it always necessarily has a connotation of imperial, but arrogance and... | ||
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Now I have to... | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Arrogant sort of displays of power do fall under imperiousness. | ||
| Yeah, see, the reason that that is... | ||
| An incorrect usage of that word is because Imperius suggests that they're taking power without justification for it. | ||
| Right, it does. | ||
| And in this situation, no, it's kind of their job to do that. | ||
| They have a justification for it. | ||
| This is an argument I'm not super interested in because I could see someone on Alex's side or that world easily making the argument that they take too much power. | ||
| And the ends don't justify the means in terms of the scrutiny that people are forced to go under. | ||
| I agree with that argument entirely. | ||
| Yeah, so the imperiousness, I'm going to give him a pass on the word. | ||
| I'm not going to give him a pass on the fucking racism. | ||
| That's my bigger issue. | ||
| I don't think I'm even going to give him a pass on the word! | ||
| Mr. Grammar over here, I'm going to take a step back and say... | ||
| It's really fucked up that he's saying that, hey, anybody who looks like they're foreign and what have you, they just get sent right on through. | ||
| But the citizens, the milk cows... | ||
| Who we don't know what they look like. | ||
| I think Alex knows what they fucking look like. | ||
| Anybody could be a citizen. | ||
| Well, to be fair, we know one example of what they look like, and it's Alex. | ||
| So we know that it's white people, is what he's referring to. | ||
| This is the sort of thing that's like, yes... | ||
| That doesn't match up in terms of scale with, like, if you have Richard Spencer throwing N-words around or something like Cage the Jews or something like that. | ||
| It doesn't rank in terms of a soundbite. | ||
| But boy howdy, that is as racist as, like, a thought can be. | ||
| It absolutely is because he's categorizing people who don't look American as being non-whites. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's a problem. | ||
| Which, again, the entire point of America is that... | ||
| Anybody here looks American. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's kind of who we are. | ||
| That's what you'd hope for. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You know that whole melting pot? | ||
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Nah. | |
| Nah. | ||
| Overrated. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| I like to eat out. | ||
| I prefer broth. | ||
| I don't like to cook. | ||
| Give me milk. | ||
| Give me milk cows. | ||
| Heat it up! | ||
| So, we get back now on this episode, we get back to the BBC situation. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And you might be surprised to hear Alex's- Great band name. | ||
| The BBC situation? | ||
| Yeah, that's not bad. | ||
| The BBC, yes. | ||
| You might be surprised to hear Alex's take on how everything went down. | ||
| I'm not, but how he ends this clip is jarring. | ||
| I was on BBC on their live show, their big meet the press. | ||
| Shut up, Alex. | ||
| One of their top rated shows of the week. | ||
| You're an idiot. | ||
| You know, the Queen of England and people go on it. | ||
| And I just shut them down. | ||
| I broke the trance. | ||
| I got in their face. | ||
| I said, I'm not playing games here. | ||
| And when the cameras, when they went to break, I stopped yelling over him because we were going to break. | ||
| And then I turned on my iPhone. | ||
| I haven't even uploaded this yet because I was so busy. | ||
| I'm going to upload it today. | ||
| And I interviewed them behind the scenes, like I did the Bilderberg group member, their Treasury Secretary. | ||
| Balls. | ||
| Balls. | ||
| And he goes, He goes, this is all fake. | ||
| This is all an act. | ||
| And I said, no, it's not. | ||
| He goes, well, you just stopped yelling. | ||
| And I said, well, the show's over. | ||
| I was yelling over you. | ||
| I was dominating you. | ||
| And then he went back on and said that I was a fake and that it was all an act. | ||
| You know, this is what they want. | ||
| They want you to believe that there's no one real. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So... | ||
| Do they want you to believe that? | ||
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Or... | |
| Do they... | ||
| I would suggest that there's just a difference in definitions. | ||
| I would say that my definition of someone who's real is not someone who screams over the other person and delights in dominating them by yelling Infowars.com over them instead of engaging with the ideas that the other person's putting forth. | ||
| That's not dominating. | ||
| That's being a baby. | ||
| It's being a fucking child on British television and looking like a crass asshole. | ||
| And the fact that he stops as soon as the camera is off, it doesn't mean that it's fake, but it just means that, like, it's a show to him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's even admitting that in that clip, like, when he's saying that, like, they want you to think that no one's real, it's like, no, we think you're real, but the reality for you is this is all bullshit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's a little bit of a mixture. | ||
| You know, in a certain sense, I can actually respect that argument, though. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| No, I mean, in the sense that... | ||
| Because if Alex was really worked up as he's presenting himself to be on the British show, he would not stop saying, you guys... | ||
| You don't fucking understand what you're a part of. | ||
| Do you understand that there are people, these are globalists, they're trying to take everybody down, I have all these documents, let me pull them up on my phone. | ||
| He would continue trying to get his point across to them after they got off air, or he would scream at them and say, you're part of the problem. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Or he would just leave. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| One of those three. | ||
| Or he would just check out, because his... | ||
| The answer isn't like he would just performatively stop screaming. | ||
| And then hang around. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's not what would happen. | ||
| Well, I'm just trying to put myself into that idea of, like, if I am going on TV, if I am, like, let's say against all odds, somehow fucking Hannity invites me on to pretend that he has something to say. | ||
| I think Tucker might be a better... | ||
| Possibility. | ||
| I might kill him. | ||
| But I mean, he might be more in your rent neighborhood. | ||
| Then I would absolutely, because what I'm doing is I'm talking to the people listening to the show. | ||
| There's no talking to Tucker. | ||
| Tucker's dead. | ||
| He has nothing on the inside. | ||
| And he's a joke as well. | ||
| So when the cameras are off, I'm just going to go. | ||
| Like, why would I continue talking to him? | ||
| He's dead to me. | ||
| Alex didn't just go. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| He hung around and he shook hands. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
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And that's bullshit. | |
| You would keep screaming at him after that. | ||
| Okay, that's a good point. | ||
| I would need to be escorted out of Fox News. | ||
| It's funny you should bring that up. | ||
| Because Alex does end up getting escorted out. | ||
| But I don't think... | ||
| But Moore is like a, dude, you gotta go. | ||
| Yeah, because I don't think it was like a getting thrown out of the BBC thing. | ||
| But I think he just, for his own protection or whatever, got some security guards to take him out. | ||
| And here... | ||
| Or even just like... | ||
| Dude, you don't belong here anymore. | ||
| We don't need you in this life. | ||
| You're gone. | ||
| Your services have been rendered. | ||
| There's no after party to hang out at. | ||
| No. | ||
| And here is where Alex talks about that, about the security guards. | ||
| And he says something that I do not believe is true. | ||
| That's all they can do. | ||
| And then, of course, they had security running in as well. | ||
| I knew if I yelled, that would give them the pretext to maybe even arrest me. | ||
| But then when I got down to the bottom with the security, they walked over and they said... | ||
| You know, we're former police here. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| And they said, what you said about the 7-7 bombing and DeMendez is absolutely right. | ||
| How did you know that? | ||
| And I said, well, what's right? | ||
| And they said exactly what you said. | ||
| What? | ||
| That guy was, you know, that was an assassination. | ||
| The drills, all of it. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And these cops, one down the elevator and the one that followed us out, literally had tears in his eyes. | ||
| Again, he goes, you're absolutely right. | ||
| Because they know, folks, they know the government did that. | ||
| So he's talking about 7-7, the bombing. | ||
| What Alex is probably operating off, and I think probably most of his awareness about that event, comes from a movie called 7-7 Ripple Effect. | ||
| It's a documentary about the 7-7 bombing. | ||
| It's basically the British 7-7 bombing equivalent of Loose Change. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| It was directed by a guy named Muad'Dib, but that, of course, is a fake name. | ||
| It's actually Muad'Dib. | ||
| It's taken from Dune. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Taken from Dune. | ||
| I know it's taken from Dune. | ||
| It's Muad'Dib. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| He is the fucking... | ||
| It's Paul Atreides, my friend. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Now, he becomes Muad'Dib. | ||
| Do you want to go into all this? | ||
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All right. | |
| So, you have to go through... | ||
| He takes the concentrated spice, and that kills all men who take it. | ||
| But it's the same thing that Reverend Mothers take in the Bene Gesserit. | ||
| So when they take the Bene Gesserit, it's like a ritual, and they take this and they have to use their biological powers to process it, and that then liquid becomes now. | ||
| The interesting thing is that Paul Atreides' mom... | ||
| He wasn't supposed to have a son. | ||
| She was supposed to have another because the Muad'Dib was supposed to be two generations on. | ||
| His dad was actually a Harkonnen. | ||
| Like, it's crazy. | ||
| So, anyways, what are we talking about? | ||
| Do you want to talk more about Dune? | ||
| I want to talk more about Dude. | ||
| No. | ||
| I love Dude. | ||
| So that was the fake name of the director. | ||
| And then Paul's son and his daughter. | ||
| Alright, alright. | ||
| I'm sorry, I'm sorry. | ||
| I did it again. | ||
| The director's real name is John Hill. | ||
| Turns out he's a British guy who may or may not be crazy. | ||
| Well, he likes Dune. | ||
| From an article. | ||
| He's got a plus one in my book. | ||
| From an article in the BBC. | ||
| Quote, So that's part of his worldview. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| So he's living in both Dune and Star Wars? | ||
| Oh yeah, he's out there. | ||
| Most of his evidence that 7-7 was fake, it all comes back to the fact that he's reporting that there was a drill on the same day that the police were engaging in, which if you'll pay attention to Alex, that's pretty much what he says every single time as well. | ||
| Now you can go case by case on these, and I can't speak to every single... | ||
| Supposed drill that Alex will talk about. | ||
| But as it relates to the 771, in this BBC article about it, they point out very clearly, quote, Peter Power, a former Scotland Yard police officer. | ||
| Peter Power? | ||
| Do we have to do this with every fucking name? | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| People have weird names. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Where do these people come from? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Muad'Dib, Peter Power. | ||
| Let's just get through this. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So PP is a former Scotland Yard police officer. | ||
| And he says that on 7-7, the exercise that was run, the drill, was an office-based drill and involved just six people from a publishing company. | ||
| So it was just an internal office exercise that was run. | ||
| What would be the response to certain things? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And, you know, it's unfortunate, horrible coincidence that an act did go down on the same day as this. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But in the past, I've looked into this because it does seem always very suspicious. | ||
| And one of the things you find is that, like, you know, police departments run fucking drills all the time. | ||
| There's multiple on each day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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You know, there's some, like, every city in every, you know, principality, every day there's going to be something generally. | |
| Right. | ||
|
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Some sort of, like, let's test our response to X, Y, and Z, and that sort of thing. | |
| So the law of coincidence isn't bent by this. | ||
| You know, like, it's not broken. | ||
| It's like if you've ever... | ||
| If you've ever lifted a phone to call somebody, and you find out that at that moment they have called you, you're like, that's the craziest thing that's ever happened! | ||
| But you think about all the calls that are happening all the time, every single day. | ||
| It's inevitable that that happens fairly regularly. | ||
| Yeah, to some extent. | ||
| But it feels meaningful, and it feels like this is very suspicious, and that sort of thing. | ||
| And I get it. | ||
| I get why people would be very suspicious about that. | ||
| But I don't... | ||
| I don't think that it's like a damning indictment of anything. | ||
| Especially in the case of this where they've talked about it, it's like it was a tiny thing that was in office that clearly has nothing to do with the running of multiple attacks. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And shit like that. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's absolute nonsense. | ||
| So anyway, Alex, his belief about 7-7 being fake largely comes back to this documentary that was written by a guy who believes in the Force and thinks he's a messiah and goes by a name from Dune, and a lot of his evidence is bogus. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, fun. | ||
| I love that cops came up to you and cried about it. | ||
| I think you're lying. | ||
| Now, this is interesting. | ||
| This next clip. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because this is pre the episode when we talked about Ferguson. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Alex's response was very much people are burning stuff down. | ||
| Cop killed a guy. | ||
| I think it was totally fine. | ||
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Right. | |
| We hypothesize it's because he wasn't white. | ||
| But Alex has a very interesting take on riots. | ||
| So it is not about how Paul Atreides' son merges with Sandfish and actually becomes a sandworm himself. | ||
| Named Peter Power. | ||
| And then lives for roughly, you know, a few thousand years and alters the entire course of human evolution, which eventually leads to the Great Scattering. | ||
| No? | ||
| Was that the sequel to Highlander? | ||
| No, that one they go to space for some reason. | ||
| Very strange movie. | ||
| So this is a clip where Alex expresses some very interesting thoughts about riots. | ||
| I salute the Chinese people. | ||
| 7,000 plus riots on record a year against tyranny. | ||
| Cops kill some innocent person there. | ||
| They burn down a city. | ||
| What? | ||
| So that's a good thing. | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| So that's a good thing. | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| When the cops kill somebody, we should have a riot and burn the city down. | ||
| Well, that's what he's saluting the Chinese for. | ||
| I think that makes perfect sense. | ||
| And you can't say that it's because they have an authoritarian government because he fucking thinks that Obama was an authoritarian dictator and that we were living under basically a totalitarian state already. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the idea... | ||
| But here's the... | ||
| Hadn't got enough fluoride in their water. | ||
| So there we go. | ||
| That is why... | ||
| There it is! | ||
| Nails it down. | ||
| See, that's why the Chinese can handle it. | ||
| Land at home. | ||
| That's why they have the balls and the strength to riot. | ||
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Right. | |
| If a cop kills somebody, then you burn a town down because you don't have that fluoride clogging up your brain. | ||
| Meanwhile... | ||
| Not six months later, or whatever, the verdict comes down in the Michael Brown case, and they don't burn down a city, but there's some rioting. | ||
| Some property damage. | ||
| A little bit of property damage, and for us to say that... | ||
| You know, protests led to that is us minimizing the nature of the situation. | ||
| But Alex's take on that is, look at these dumb, dumb assholes. | ||
| Trust the police. | ||
| I don't understand where the line is. | ||
| It makes absolutely no sense. | ||
| And this isn't one that I can really toss away really easily. | ||
| Like, when we were looking in the past, looking at 2009 and the positions that he's had that have changed, I think that there's enough time for something to have happened that flips him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he's just racist. | ||
| Yeah, there's no other explanation for that. | ||
| I think he's just scared of black people having agency and being mad, being justifiably mad about systematic abuses of police. | ||
| It's interesting to me because the more we go through this, the more Alex's insanity... | ||
| Dovetails perfectly with just the mental gymnastics that so many white people require in order to justify them not being racist. | ||
| Do you know what I'm saying? | ||
| All of this worldview, all of this insanity is built around the idea that he believes all people equally are affected by tyranny. | ||
| And yet at the same time, he makes all of these rules where it's like, yeah, we are... | ||
| Overarching, we are all underneath tyranny. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it just so happens that all of the rules that I build into it mean that white people are under more tyranny than everybody else. | ||
| Well, the essential piece of creating the tyranny is destroying the whites. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| In his worldview. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Even though it may appear that he doesn't care about all these other groups, it's really because once the whites go down, you're all next. | ||
| Yeah, they're the bulwark. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| In the same way that he says, like, the... | ||
| The West is the thing that's standing behind hell on earth. | ||
| Standing in front of hell on earth. | ||
| It's the exact same sort of thing. | ||
| It's like, alright, look. | ||
| When bad things happen to Hispanic people, when they happen to native people, when they happen to black people, sure it's bad. | ||
| But I don't really care. | ||
| Because they're on the other side of that bulwark. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| It's just like, that's not going to take down the levy. | ||
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Right. | |
| But the white people are the levy. | ||
| So we should all be behind the white people and make sure that they get the best treatment. | ||
| And he's not realizing that the water is... | ||
| You're Swiss cheese. | ||
| Your wall is Swiss cheese. | ||
| Everybody's drowning already. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I don't know if I nailed that metaphor, but... | ||
| The same type of mental gymnastics are required to just be a Republican, period. | ||
| Nowadays. | ||
| Just like... | ||
| No. | ||
| So many people went to that Trump rally in Minnesota. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| 150 years ago, Republicans weren't so bad. | ||
| No, so many reporters went there and they asked people, they were like, seriously, what the fuck? | ||
| And the people were like, no, if this were happening, we would totally be against it. | ||
| We just don't believe any of it's happening. | ||
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Hooray! | |
| I watched a bit of it. | ||
| It was very troubling. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's Nazis. | ||
| It really struck me that... | ||
| I've watched a number of these rallies, and at a point there were a few not-white people. | ||
| And I don't want to judge whatever their... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| life sure there were there were uh it wasn't all whites right let's say right and then a little bit later down the road it would be like just that one guy with the blacks for trump sign who may or may not be involved in a cult yeah yeah there's that guy and then like He kept showing up, and I was like, alright, we got that guy there. | ||
| This was... | ||
| I was looking... | ||
| I couldn't see anybody who wasn't white. | ||
| And I don't know, because, you know... | ||
| On the other hand, it was Duluth. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't even know if there are anybody who... | ||
| Are any non-whites in Duluth. | ||
| Hey, come on, man. | ||
| Duluth's a wonderful town, I guess. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I've never been. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It was just very unnerving to me. | ||
| Because then they zoomed out, and I was like, nope. | ||
| Still nobody. | ||
| And then everybody's like, is Kevin McHale in that picture? | ||
| Did you see that? | ||
| He is in that picture. | ||
| I didn't know if it was him or not, but I saw people clowning on Twitter. | ||
| But then that was like a super high-resolution picture of this large... | ||
| Oh, it's Kevin McHale. | ||
| Well, see, I don't know what he looks like these days, so I have no idea. | ||
| Not great. | ||
| But I looked around, because you could blow it up higher, higher resolution. | ||
| I was looking around, still no fucking white people. | ||
| Still all white people. | ||
| I was like, oh, God. | ||
| I wanted to tweet, I don't know if this is Kevin McHale, but I know it's not Robert Parrish. | ||
| I tell you that right now. | ||
| So anyway, yeah, it's super weird. | ||
| I think that all of this could just be distilled down to a sense of, like, Alex is not really concerned about actions as much as he is context of actions. | ||
| And so, like, Chinese people rioting is great because in his brain it creates problems for the chai comms that he hates so much. | ||
| So it doesn't really matter that if it were Chinese people rioting here against a similar oppression, let's say, when the Chinese Exclusion Act was going on or something like that. | ||
| I can't remember any type of American act like that. | ||
| But so if that were happening here, he would be very against it because it's creating problems for his... | ||
| For him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And for his conception of America as a white ethnostate, quite frankly. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And so that's why the same action is problematic in a largely African-American area. | |
| If it were white people rioting, he'd probably be totally fine with it, especially if they were like, we're against the globalists. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Or something like that. | |
| Or if we're against the Chinese. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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I imagine that might be OK, especially if he found some way to work it into, like, internationalism or some bullshit. | |
| You know what interests me? | ||
| I don't know at this point. | ||
| Right. | ||
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At this point, I have not let you. | |
| I have not. | ||
| Dune. | ||
| Dune for sure. | ||
| Highlander. | ||
| Dune for sure. | ||
| Highlander. | ||
| Moderately. | ||
| I love Highlander. | ||
| Not as important as dude. | ||
| Some people have been suggesting that you do a spinoff podcast about Highlander. | ||
| With you. | ||
| Because you keep bringing it up. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| No. | ||
| The erasure of the line. | ||
| That is what fascinated me most about the way that they... | ||
| When they do those stories where it's like, you know that people are being torn from their parents. | ||
| Put into concentration camps. | ||
| How can you deal with this? | ||
| How can you support this guy? | ||
| And instead of saying that there's a line where they won't support Trump, there's no line. | ||
| No. | ||
| It just doesn't happen. | ||
| The line was gone before, though. | ||
| I know, but it seems like even if you're a Republican, you should have thought, at least before now, is there a line? | ||
| Is there a line? | ||
| What will it take for me to stop supporting the Republican Party? | ||
| Nah, see, but that's a thought that the Democrats want you to have, and that's why they would never have that thought. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| It does seem strange to me that that's a thought that nobody seems to have ever had. | ||
| Like, what's the line? | ||
| What is the line for me to change my party? | ||
| I have no allegiance to the Democrats. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because they are fucking garbage and they're going to ruin this. | ||
| They're going to ruin this again. | ||
| But I have no choice but to vote for them. | ||
| Because the alternative is otherwise. | ||
| And at the same time, what's my line to not vote for them? | ||
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Do you have a line? | |
| No. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because I don't have an allegiance, so I don't have a line. | ||
| I will go with the people that I think are best for the positions that are open. | ||
| So there is... | ||
| I mean, what? | ||
| My line is really thin, or it's really early. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| There's a lot of things that are disqualifying in terms of leaders, but the idea of changing parties, because I'm not in a party. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, me neither. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Stop saying R. I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I mean, for the politically unaffiliated, the line is ultimately just leaving, right? | ||
| At what point can you not even support the country? | ||
| America? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that has to be the real line. | ||
| Well, it's coming. | ||
| What's that line? | ||
| I feel like it should have been... | ||
| Way earlier. | ||
| Oh yeah, we should be gone. | ||
| My line should have been crossed a long time ago. | ||
| Oh yeah, now that I'm not afraid of planes anymore, I'm getting out of here. | ||
| Let's leave. | ||
| Yeah, I'm going to Easter Island finally. | ||
| Time to go. | ||
| It might be. | ||
| Anyway, time to change this up. | ||
| Get back on track. | ||
| Yeah, sorry. | ||
| So, at this point in the show, Alex... | ||
| He decides that he wants to flex on Obama supporters, and so he starts taking calls from Obama supporters. | ||
| He's like, I want you Obama people to come at me. | ||
| And then he just gets calls from people who don't really like Obama that much, but he presents them as like, these are Obama heads, aren't they stupid? | ||
| Like, no, they're your callers, they're your fans, they're listening to your show. | ||
| People who like Obama aren't listening. | ||
| So, Alex went on a trip. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And you know what that means. | ||
| He ran into... | ||
| Globalist. | ||
| Potential globalist. | ||
| Wherever it was he was at. | ||
| I'm not sure if this person is a globalist, but it's very possible. | ||
| What did they have to say about his passport? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| This was on the plane. | ||
| Okay, then the jury's still out. | ||
| This didn't happen. | ||
| I was talking to an executive who was interviewing the head of, what is it, Chinese Telecom, their big internet provider, and he was basically saying this high-powered guy, actually a famous guy I was on the plane with flying back, well-known guy I was flying back with, Friends of George Bush, all that stuff yesterday on American Airlines from Dallas. | ||
| And he was like, yeah, I know it's true. | ||
| At the top of the pyramid, it's the same people. | ||
| We're merging with China. | ||
| And they're using regulations to shut down business here, to transfer it there. | ||
| It's a bad thing. | ||
| It's like the general public has no idea what's going on. | ||
| If you're globalist fat cats, you use regulations to shut down your competition and then move it to China. | ||
| And then when people say, hey, don't do that, you go, what, do you work for the communists? | ||
| You traitor! | ||
| Okay. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Well spelled out. | ||
| I don't think that person exists, first of all. | ||
| He's very well known, though. | ||
| Very well known. | ||
| Somehow involved with George Bush. | ||
| Famous. | ||
| We know that he's on American Airlines, so he's a patron. | ||
| Very powerful man. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Very powerful. | ||
| Undoubtedly, that means Alex is in first class. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Doesn't he realize that what he's saying right there is that I fly first class? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| There's no way that the executive is flying in coach. | ||
| Not a fucking chance in the world. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Also, this didn't happen, but I do think that he is admitting he's in first class. | ||
| That's exactly what he's admitting! | ||
| I think that part is clear. | ||
| But, um... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I just think that this is that stupid... | ||
| Libertarian garbage about trying to reframe what regulation is on businesses. | ||
| It's like all these super rich people already have all their money so they try and enforce these regulations to make sure no one else can get in their game. | ||
| Yeah, that's called trusts and monopolies, of which we have many, that regulations are supposed to break up. | ||
| Right, right, and in the past have, because they became a problem. | ||
| They were really good at it, too. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| It's a good thing we got rid of them. | ||
| I don't understand, I sincerely don't understand the difference, spiritually, between... | ||
| That which would break up a monopoly and that which would regulate an industry. | ||
| I don't understand where you can bring a spiritual difference in supporting one and not the other. | ||
| Because Alex seems to be very against monopolies. | ||
| He hates the idea of monopoly capitalism and shit. | ||
| But at the same time, he's like, don't regulate business. | ||
| Let business be. | ||
| Well, he doesn't want the government to break up monopolies. | ||
| No, he does. | ||
| He wants the people to break up monopolies. | ||
|
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No, no, no. | |
| He wants government to get involved. | ||
| He absolutely does. | ||
| Okay, then how? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
|
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Well... | |
| Don't use the word regulate. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But he does. | ||
| He wants the government to break up Amazon. | ||
| He wants them to break up Google. | ||
| Like, he doesn't want us to do it. | ||
| He wants the government to step in. | ||
| Okay, but how? | ||
| Without regulation? | ||
| Can't use that word. | ||
|
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Um... | |
| Law-relation. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Too close. | ||
| Can't even use stipulation. | ||
| How about dance party? | ||
| Now that's interesting. | ||
| How about the entire government has a huge car wash? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Better idea. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We go back to your dance party idea. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Yes. | ||
| This is a better idea. | ||
| We have musical chairs. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Everybody pays in with pieces of Amazon's business. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I don't know what that even means. | ||
|
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What even is a piece of Amazon's business? | |
| Well, like, you get the book part of it. | ||
| You get the book part. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| You get Amazon Prime over here. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| I realize that this isn't going to work because musical chairs is only going to lead to a monopoly. | ||
| One person wins. | ||
|
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Shit. | |
| Oh, okay. | ||
| There could be multiple rounds. | ||
| Like, this round is for Prime. | ||
| This is for the shipping business. | ||
| This is for the warehouses. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| And then each round, if you win, you're out. | ||
| But Bezos has to donate all of it. | ||
| Bezos is throwing the dance party. | ||
| And let's say, I don't know, it's $200 million to get in. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| And you're guaranteed to walk away with something, but you don't get to choose what it is. | ||
| You get whatever... | ||
| Oh, it's like a white elephant. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or like one of those games where you swap whoever grabs it, they can swap it at you. | ||
| No, because you get whatever musical chairs round you win. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But there's only enough rounds for as many people are there. | ||
| And once you win a round, you can't play again. | ||
| The last round is going to be terrible because it's just going to be one person and Jeff Bezos. | ||
| And Jeff Bezos can't win. | ||
| And Jeff Bezos will obviously eat that person to gain his strength. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's just there as a dummy because it's not fun to play musical chairs by yourself. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Here's my plan to break up Monopolies without regulation. | ||
| Mine wasn't perfect. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| That's a very big position. | ||
| I'm a big enough man to admit that. | ||
| Here's my plan. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| Firing squads. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I was hoping to avoid this sort of thing. | ||
| If you are Jeff Bezos, right, then we have like six people with guns. | ||
| Nobody knows who has a live bullet, and they all shoot them at you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I guess regulation? | ||
| Yeah, that would also work. | ||
| Regulation would also be a great idea. | ||
| Yeah, that would probably work. | ||
| So we got one more clip here, and it's just to reinforce Alex's terrible headspace that he's in about how he wants everyone to know that he's in very severe danger. | ||
| We haven't covered a whole lot on this episode because there isn't a whole lot. | ||
| He just kind of yells about the NSA stuff, but he doesn't really say anything in particular. | ||
| Just talks about how he's been right all along. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he's talking about William Binney. | ||
| He's like, I had a guy. | ||
| Binney's Beverage Depot? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's like, I had a guy on from the NSA a year ago and no one gave me any credit or whatever. | ||
| He's like, no one talked about it. | ||
| He's a little bitter about that. | ||
| And overall, it's just a lot of zeros. | ||
| A lot of zeros throughout the episode. | ||
| This has been one of the more vague episodes. | ||
| Everything is very vague. | ||
| It's always a guy who did a thing, or I was at a place where a thing happened. | ||
| There's not a lot of holds on the rock that we're trying to climb up, and it leads to it being difficult. | ||
| But the things that are important are that he thinks that yelling at the guy at the BBC is dominating him. | ||
| Yeah, that's an uncomfortable way of describing it. | ||
| He has differing feelings on riots, depending on the circumstances. | ||
| It's over there! | ||
| It's not over here! | ||
| And then he's just making up so much shit. | ||
| Like, he's making up what happened with a TSA agent who was very polite. | ||
| He's making up the cop crying to him in London. | ||
| He's making up... | ||
| He was a former cop. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's making up this... | ||
| Fake globalist on a plane. | ||
| He's just creating it. | ||
| Great Samuel L. Jackson movie. | ||
| He probably had a really boring trip that was mostly pleasant outside of getting dunked on on UK television, and he's trying to create a mythology out of it because he doesn't get away from the States very often. | ||
|
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Yeah, I think he had a good time. | |
| And I can understand that. | ||
| I bet. | ||
| I think he had a great time. | ||
| I bet he got some fish and chips. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But make no mistake about it. | ||
| His life is in danger. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And by the way, those guys were part of it in the drill, I believe. | ||
| They were going to blame it on right-wingers. | ||
| He's talking about the Boston Bombers. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And then they changed the story. | ||
| They said, it's right-wingers. | ||
| We've made the arrest. | ||
| It will be made. | ||
| But we then released the photos by the grace of God, the photos that were already out. | ||
| We focused on them in the drill. | ||
| Real quick. | ||
| We released the photos that were already out. | ||
| That sentence is troubling. | ||
| By the grace of God. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they freaked out. | ||
| And now they might kill me. | ||
| I'm going to be really honest with you. | ||
| I'll tell you why I'm really freaked out, folks. | ||
| I know in my gut that they are sitting back and there have been discussions undoubtedly about whacking your shrewd. | ||
| I will guarantee you they got their finger on the trigger. | ||
| It's being debated. | ||
| And some other agents of your group might just say, I'm sick of that guy. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Whatever happens, happens because I'm in God's hands. | ||
| And I'm not going to stop. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You're not. | ||
| Could be the NSA. | ||
|
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Uh-huh. | |
| Could be the FBI. | ||
| Any of these agencies could just be sick of me. | ||
| Could be the TSA. | ||
| Could be the APA, the American Pool Playing Association. | ||
| I thought you meant the Acolytes Protection Agency of Bradshaw and Farouk. | ||
| Could be the MIB. | ||
| The Men in Black. | ||
| Could be the CSC. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Could be the CDC. | ||
| Could be the TFC. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Could be the TLC. | ||
| Could be... | ||
| That's what happened to Lisa Left Eye. | ||
| Could be TCM, Turner Classic Movies. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They might take him out. | ||
| Could be MIA. | ||
| The rapper? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Any of these things are possible, but five years later, Alex Jones alive and well, and no one really seems to care about killing him. | ||
| To our great chagrin. | ||
| Nah, I'm fine with him not dying, but man, it's just, it's becoming... | ||
|
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Laborious. | |
| You know? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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It's... | |
| I still love... | ||
| I love doing this show and I still love learning about these things because he's such a perfect conduit into learning about things that I would not have any access to otherwise. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it is becoming a thing where it's like, for years, he's just like, they're about to kill me! | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And you're like, they're not. | ||
| And then you see him now and he's doing the same... | ||
| He's doing the same bits. | ||
| And it's really... | ||
| It's like seeing a comic who... | ||
| It's like seeing Pablo Francisco. | ||
| I don't want to say anything about him particularly because I don't know the man. | ||
| But it is like seeing someone like, I don't know, you see somebody do a set and then you're like, that was amazing. | ||
| They are so good. | ||
| They're a great comic. | ||
| And then five years later you see them do basically the same set with the same crowd work, the same asides to the audience, same built-in shit. | ||
| And you're like, oh, that's all you got? | ||
| And that's what Alex is like to some extent. | ||
| Like going back in time, there is a feeling of like... | ||
| This is all you got? | ||
| That's too bad. | ||
| That sucks, man. | ||
| You need a new act. | ||
| So that brings us to the end of this episode. | ||
| Indeed it does, Stan! | ||
| I'd like to thank Ian for suggesting us go back. | ||
| I'd like to also apologize a little bit that there wasn't as much meat. | ||
| There wasn't a ton of meat, but... | ||
| The reason that I still stand by it, and I think that this was exactly the right episode to do, was because it was the reason we got sent back, and we found Alex's response to him being on the BBC. | ||
| He's a little bitch. | ||
| Mission accomplished. | ||
| Big banner on a ship. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Thank you again, Ian, and thank you to everybody who... | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| All the folks. | ||
| All the people. | ||
| All the peeps. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| If you'd like more of our show, you can find us at knowledgefight.com. | ||
| If you would like to have us do your own time travel episode, you can click the support the show button, and I'm sure there's probably an explanation. | ||
| Yes, and I have a few in the chamber of people who have sent me messages. | ||
| I don't do a good enough job of pointing this out, but if you are on that level or above, you are more than welcome to send me a request. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| You can either do that. | ||
| I don't think I made this clear enough on the Patreon page itself, but please send me a message at knowledgefightatgmail.com or on the Facebook group. | ||
| You can send a message on Facebook, and we'll get that date, and we'll look into it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Or you could send us a tweet. | ||
| Slip into the DMs. | ||
| You could go to at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Correct, correct. | ||
| Or again, like I said, Facebook. | ||
| You could go to iTunes. | ||
| You should actually go to iTunes. | ||
| That's not going to help in this case. | ||
| It's not going to help a lot in this case. | ||
| You still go there and subscribe. | ||
| Yeah, let's do it. | ||
| How about call to action? | ||
| Leave a review. | ||
| People have, and we appreciate it. | ||
| Yeah, we do. | ||
| We've had some very nice reviews. | ||
| It's very kind of you. | ||
| It's very, very nice. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Call to action. | ||
| I'm trying. | ||
| I'm trying, man. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We do not trust the sincerity of any marketing. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| Destroys our possibility of ever succeeding. | ||
|
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Cool, cool. | |
| Love living in this brain. | ||
| A podcast that finds shame in asking for notoriety is a wonderful marketing tool. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I mean, this isn't show business, but it's some form of show business, you know? | ||
| It is performance in some way. | ||
| And at the same time, I'm allergic to being like, pay attention, Don. | ||
| And so we will dwell in whatever stage we're in now. | ||
| Yeah, the idea that we're like, hey, we have important things that people need to hear is anathema. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So anyway, thanks for listening. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Jordan, it's your turn. | ||
| Is it my turn? | ||
|
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It is. | |
| Well, I am going to go... | ||
| I'm just going to say that there's one small, tiny, pathetic, elf-shaped, ear-having, balding, motherfucking, feckless cunt of a man who needs to go fucking die. | ||
| Jeff Sessions, go fuck yourself. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |