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June 12, 2018 - Knowledge Fight
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#169: November 30, 2014

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about an episode of The Alex Jones Show from a very important date in Austin history. Why? Because the gents are going to be in Austin on Friday for a live show, and they're trying to force attention toward it. Tune in to learn of Mexican consulate arsons, the perils of Black Friday, and Alex's illiteracy.

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alex jones
11:56
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dan friesen
41:30
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jordan holmes
25:56
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owen shroyer
00:06
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
Today's novelty beverage is zombie dust.
jordan holmes
Indeed we are, Dan.
Dan?
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan, sir.
jordan holmes
If you were furious.
Uh-huh.
So many different things happening concurrently.
dan friesen
The world is upon me.
jordan holmes
Right.
Much like Atlas.
God damn.
Everything hanging upon your shoulders.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And some random stranger just walked up to you off the street.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And was like, one, I work for Chase Bank.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Two, I am a...
Shareholder in the WWE Network.
unidentified
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Do you do a podcast?
unidentified
I do.
jordan holmes
And if so, describe it to me.
dan friesen
I do, and it's about me.
I know a lot about Alex Jones.
This guy I know.
He doesn't know anything about him, and we talk about it.
That's the podcast.
There we go.
Shit's just been nuts, and I apologize.
I don't want to complain about it.
I've been...
Fucked over by Chase Bank and the WWE Network.
They hit me with a doomsday device.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There you go.
I have been down for the count.
unidentified
Yes.
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's been a really terrible couple days, but everything is looking up because we're here.
unidentified
You were stunned by someone who is stone cold.
dan friesen
Absolutely brutal.
But we are here and we are going to have a great time today.
Jordan, today we had an interesting podcast.
I was hoping to actually...
Use your joke, your bit intro, where you're like, this guy walks up to you, and I would be like, are you from Austin?
Because then I would say, if you're from Austin, I don't want to tell you what my podcast is about.
I will tell you to come June 15th to Beerland in Austin, Texas.
jordan holmes
We have never rehearsed a bit.
Why would you imagine that I would just come up with...
These are notes.
dan friesen
These are post-notes.
jordan holmes
You're giving me notes?
dan friesen
Yes, for next time.
I have some notes right in front of me.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
I have some notes right here, and they are, Dan, say thank you to our new sponsor.
Which I would like to do right now.
jordan holmes
We would also like to thank you in Austin this Friday.
Beer land.
dan friesen
I'm going to get to it.
jordan holmes
Doors at night.
dan friesen
I'm going to get to that.
jordan holmes
10 o 'clock.
dan friesen
We're going to talk about that a little bit more here in a second.
But first, I'd like to say thank you to a new donor out there.
What's going on, Dean?
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Dean.
dan friesen
We appreciate it.
Also, I'd like to give a shout out to another new donor.
Thank you so much, Bob.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Bobby!
jordan holmes
Thank you, Bob Vila!
Villain of the home improvement television series.
dan friesen
This old donation.
jordan holmes
Yeah, alright.
dan friesen
Get the fuck out of here.
jordan holmes
Minus one out the gate!
dan friesen
If you'd like to support the show, you can do so by going to knowledgefight.com, clicking support the show, and we would really appreciate it.
Now, as I teased there a second ago, we are going to be in Austin, Texas.
This Friday.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
At Beerland, 10 p.m., doors open at 9. We'd love to see you all out there.
Tickets still available.
I think only at the door.
They're available.
They're not available in advance.
There will be seating.
unidentified
And believe me, they'll be available.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so today...
jordan holmes
And once again, we are doing most of our advertising to people who already listen to the podcast and have decided whether or not to go long ago.
dan friesen
Yes.
I'm certain.
jordan holmes
So we're great at marketing, and we are grateful to everybody in Austin who is already kicking ass for us.
Thank you so much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I wanted today...
What I wanted to do is I wanted to...
Celebrate the city of Austin.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I will say that I have found a great Austin-related episode for the live show on Friday.
But I've found another Austin episode.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Austin-E episode that takes us into...
jordan holmes
Austin-E episode?
dan friesen
Yeah, there's some Austin...
jordan holmes
Is that like Schaumburg or Chicago-E?
Is that the kind of thing?
dan friesen
Sort of.
It's not like about Red Rock or whatever.
jordan holmes
Oh, well then I don't want to hear it!
dan friesen
Is that what it is?
Isn't that the name of it?
Red Wall?
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Red Wall is a series of books about mice fighting.
You're correct.
Written by Brian Jakes?
dan friesen
You're correct.
jordan holmes
Jakes.
dan friesen
But before we get to today's episode, I should say we did record an episode over the weekend that we were going to release on Monday.
Yes.
And the universe saw fit to not let that be recorded.
And it got lost.
And good.
It should have been.
jordan holmes
It's really fascinating because the entire episode was...
dan friesen
Mostly.
jordan holmes
Essentially about how you felt that...
What we were talking about should be ignored, and that we shouldn't be doing that episode.
Cosmically, we then did not do that episode.
dan friesen
We were talking about how everyone should ignore Alex's comments about the death of Anthony Bourdain, and then, bizarrely, the episode doesn't record as if it were God saying, cut it out.
jordan holmes
I can promise that we actually recorded the episode.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I can guarantee that.
And this isn't some way that we're stealth saying...
dan friesen
It's not some meta bit or anything.
jordan holmes
We're bad at bits, let alone meta bits.
dan friesen
In that episode, we did cover also a little bit of the other stuff that Alex talked about on that Friday episode.
And there's one clip that I think is so important that no one is talking about that we do need to play it here at the beginning of this episode.
Just because this cannot be not heard by the people.
jordan holmes
Since we recorded it last night, I can almost remember it.
dan friesen
So this is from the June 8th, 2018 episode of The Alex Jones Show.
Alex Jones is on vacation in Hawaii, but he calls into the show a couple hours before he calls in to talk about Anthony Bourdain's death.
He calls in to say this.
owen shroyer
Alex, how refreshing is it to see a president that essentially flips the bird to the globalists at the G7 summit?
alex jones
That's right.
Coming up in the next segment, we will play the clip as he was going out to Marine One helicopter to take off the G7, and he pointed out that he tried to play nice with Trudeau, he tried to play nice with Macron, and other Oh, yeah!
The only place Trump's been behind on, he was ahead of it during the campaign, the clear alliance that the patriots in the Pentagon, there's bad guys there too.
jordan holmes
Oh, there's the best.
alex jones
There's three different factions, really, but there's two dominant ones.
unidentified
The patriots in the Pentagon, so we should link up with Russia.
They've got incredible resources, four times our land mass, more resources than even Africa.
alex jones
They've become a Christian nation.
They've got lower taxes on us.
We should link up.
unidentified
Geographically, we'll control the whole planet.
dan friesen
Yikes.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So, we freaked out and screamed about this for like 10 minutes yesterday.
No need to sort of recreate that.
jordan holmes
It can't be done.
dan friesen
Except to say, hey guys, there's Alex saying that he and the patriots that he's aware of within the intelligence services want to hook up with Russia and dominate the world.
Right.
Geographically.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Dominate the world.
jordan holmes
That was the plan.
dan friesen
So that's not great.
jordan holmes
Which I believe we came to the conclusion that that made him a globalist.
dan friesen
I think dominating a globe makes one a globalist.
jordan holmes
The only thing about that that I still cannot get over is what is the third faction of the Pentagon?
What is it?
So we got the Patriots.
We've got one confirmed faction.
Assumably...
The other one is the globalists, or at least globalist-controlled vampires.
dan friesen
Globalist adjacent.
jordan holmes
What is the third one?
dan friesen
The sommeliers.
jordan holmes
The sommeliers?
The wine merchants?
dan friesen
Yeah, the wine snobs.
jordan holmes
See, now I feel like that's, again, a very anti-Semitic thing.
dan friesen
No, we got wine snobs over here.
unidentified
We got wine snobs.
jordan holmes
Patriots.
dan friesen
Globalists.
unidentified
Globalists.
Right.
dan friesen
The two factions, the Patriots and the Globalists, do battle internationally.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And the wine snobs sit around and just laugh and like, aha, they're using the wrong cheese with that red wine.
Aha, sacre bleu.
jordan holmes
Ah, you should have brought a charcuterie!
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
No, do they send go-between messages?
Hmm?
Like, you can trust a wine aficionado.
They're so absorbed in wine that they don't care about distorting the words that you say.
dan friesen
No, certainly not.
jordan holmes
Is that how they communicate with each other?
Do they send missives?
dan friesen
Must.
jordan holmes
Have they turned wine purchases into a coded language?
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That makes sense.
It's like...
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Jordan, today what we're going to be going over is the November 30th, 2014 episode of The Alex Jones Show.
jordan holmes
Right.
It's very Austin-y.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'd like to see if you have any idea why I have chosen this as an Austin-y episode.
jordan holmes
November 30th, 2014.
Right.
That was when...
Let's see, what happens on November 30th?
dan friesen
It's just after Thanksgiving.
jordan holmes
That was probably the...
Oh, no, no, that was the reenactment of the first Thanksgiving when Christ was crucified?
dan friesen
Incorrect.
jordan holmes
No, they do the Thanksgiving...
No?
dan friesen
Nope.
Incorrect.
jordan holmes
Bethlehem?
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
dan friesen
On November 28th at 2.20-something in the morning, a gentleman by the name of Larry McQuilliams...
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Went on a shooting spree in Austin.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
And shot a ton of bullets at the police station and tried to set fire to the Mexican consulate.
Also shot a bunch of bullets at the federal courthouse.
He was shot down by a cop eventually.
He had Let Me Die written in marker across his chest.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He also, in his pocket, had a copy of a book.
jordan holmes
Where to hide your guns.
dan friesen
Exactly, dot com.
We'll get into more detail about it later, but it's tied to a Christian identity supremacy group that is very racist and anti-Semitic.
They are called the Phineas Priesthood, and it's not really a specific group.
It's kind of like a loose-knit group of people who, you know, you just get to call yourself a priest in this Phineas Priesthood, and he had a book about them and their history in his pocket, much like...
As if it was catcher in the rye for him.
Which speaks volumes about what he was about.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So I went and...
jordan holmes
So they're definitely talking about Bethlehem then?
dan friesen
There might be some of that.
You might have been more right than I knew.
jordan holmes
Did they hurt anybody?
Or did he hurt anybody?
I assume the group has probably hurt people.
dan friesen
No one ended up hurt.
There was more property damage from what I've been able to glean.
jordan holmes
That's kind of the most Austin-y...
Mass shooting, I can think of that.
Austin is so cool, even their mass shooters are like, wait, we don't want to hurt anybody.
dan friesen
I don't think he didn't want to hurt anybody.
jordan holmes
I recognize that!
But he picked the right targets, you know?
He picked the big three.
You go after the police station, you go after the courthouse, you gotta go after the Mexican consulate after that.
dan friesen
Also, our friend Art Acevedo, the then Austin police chief, did speculate that there was reason to believe that the attack could have been...
politically motivated, an anti-government attack that also might be linked to feelings about immigration, being as he tried to set the Mexican consulate on fire.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
I'm a big fan of Acevedo.
jordan holmes
Seems pretty obvious.
That's some good detective work I recognize.
dan friesen
From Texas Monthly, shooting up the Mexican consulate shortly after President Obama issued his executive order regarding immigration does indicate a potential motive.
Certainly.
unidentified
Potential?
dan friesen
He's also, if you looked over...
jordan holmes
That would be a wild coincidence.
dan friesen
If you looked over his social media, you'd find that he had...
Posted a lot of really positive stuff about Ron Paul in the past, so there's some sort of connection that he had there philosophically.
And he also was a guy who'd been arrested and done time for robbing a bank.
Okay, all right.
A few years prior.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
He tried to rob a...
jordan holmes
What is more anti-government than that?
dan friesen
He tried to rob a Brinks truck, from what I've been able to find.
jordan holmes
Wait, and a bank?
dan friesen
No, that was the thing.
That counts as a bank.
jordan holmes
That does not count as a bank.
dan friesen
To the law, it does.
jordan holmes
That does not count as a bank.
There have to be tellers.
You have to stand on the thing and shoot bullets up in the air.
You've got to do the whole thing.
dan friesen
According to the law, it counts.
Okay.
jordan holmes
I would also accept sliding a piece of paper to the teller that says, I have a gun.
Please put $100,000.
dan friesen
You can't slide that note to the Brinks guy.
He's got a gun.
jordan holmes
No, he's definitely got a gun.
dan friesen
So this guy was a mess, and he had a lot of indications that he might be the sort of guy who'd be doing this kind of stuff.
He ended up getting shot by a cop not too long after he went...
Went all shooty.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But he's an old white guy.
He's a 49-year-old white guy.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And so that's going to make Alex...
jordan holmes
Man, we still need them around.
If they weren't here...
dan friesen
Stop it.
unidentified
Stop it.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So, because the guy is an old white dude, Alex has some complicated feelings about it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And...
jordan holmes
He should be against it.
Kind of a fan.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't really know what to do with it, and we'll watch him spin his wheels.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because this is the 30th.
And on the 28th, he took the day off.
The 28th was a Friday.
He took that off because he's like...
jordan holmes
He was too busy masturbating to this guy.
dan friesen
Thanksgiving.
Maybe.
Maybe Thanksgiving.
But he had a pre-recorded show, and it was really funny to listen to that, like what he's complaining about, knowing that that morning...
jordan holmes
There's an active shooter, yeah.
dan friesen
Huge shooter.
jordan holmes
There's been a white terrorist.
dan friesen
It's kind of funny that he's like, we're going to replay a great interview with Michael Savage.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
All right, bro.
So here's the first clip where Alex discusses what he thinks is going on with this guy.
alex jones
Already hard to believe the 30th day of November 2014.
dan friesen
Also one of the most offensive things I've ever heard on this show.
He's playing ZZ Top to start the show.
Please.
alex jones
This live Sunday edition.
I'm your host, Alex Jones.
We'll be here as we are every Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m. Central Standard Time.
I intend to open the phones up throughout really the last two-thirds of the transmission from the bottom of the hour forward.
And I intend to try to be disciplined, which everybody knows I'm not, to go over as much news as possible.
There's just so much here to talk about.
I live in Austin, Texas, where a few days ago we had somebody at 2.22 a.m.
We know his name, McWilliams, running around shooting up the police station, the Mexican consulate, and the federal building.
jordan holmes
He's my hero.
alex jones
And folks want to know my take on that.
jordan holmes
He's my hero.
alex jones
Well, I'll give you my take on that event.
Slain Austin shooter likely had anti-government motive.
Hero.
It was against open borders.
That's what they're saying is likely.
I saw some online videos of him training with ninja swords and stuff, and he fits the same MO as this guy on the East Coast that killed one cop and was hunting others who was obsessed with video games.
unidentified
I have a dream.
alex jones
I just think these are mentally ill people.
dan friesen
Okay.
Okay.
Cool.
So that's your take on this one.
He's a mentally ill guy.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah!
jordan holmes
Why wouldn't you want him to have a gun?
He already had swords.
He could have slashed up the police station.
There's no stopping this guy.
So much ninja training.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Thank God he brought a gun, because if he brought a sword, he would have had to use the ninja training.
We never would have caught the guy.
dan friesen
Thank God the Second Amendment doesn't cover smoke bombs.
Oh, yeah.
So...
I would say that in present day or so, Alex doesn't like this argument of they're mentally ill folks.
Except when he wants to use it in order to throw bombs at pharmaceuticals.
They're all just zombies on their Prozac.
So this is an interesting way that he's already allowed for this to be like, hey, it doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
And he's tossed a video game in there.
Hey, he played a lot of video games.
You know that discount.
dan friesen
This is the other guy who he's comparing it to.
These are similar guys.
This other white shooter.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
But that is not the angle he's going to go with.
That's just what he starts with.
jordan holmes
He's going to go with, this guy lives what I preach.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
He's not going to say that.
dan friesen
Slightly different.
jordan holmes
He's not going to say that, word for word, what this guy does is what I tell people to do.
dan friesen
You're not going to like this.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to like this?
dan friesen
No.
alex jones
I just think these are mentally ill people.
That said, they're still dangerous.
In fact, more dangerous because you don't really know when they're going to strike.
But I want to tie that in, his so-called protest, to Ferguson.
Because I think both incidences of violence are illegitimate.
jordan holmes
No!
God damn it!
alex jones
No, you can't even fucking do that!
jordan holmes
How do you do that?
How do you fucking do that?
dan friesen
That is...
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The problem is, as awful as that is, there's a certain part of my brain that's like, I never would have made that connection, man.
unidentified
You gotta give them credit where credit is due.
jordan holmes
Never would I have even considered that it was possible to connect those two events.
Good on you, Alex, for figuring out the single worst narrative that is humanly possible.
dan friesen
I don't understand why you wouldn't put those pieces together.
jordan holmes
What do you mean why I wouldn't put those pieces together?
dan friesen
Hey, I bet that's what Alex is going to say.
jordan holmes
How could I possibly have put those two pieces together?
Was there an active shooter that shot up the fucking Mexican consulate in Ferguson?
Does Ferguson have a Mexican consulate?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Why does Austin have a Mexican consulate?
That was another question of mine.
dan friesen
It's in Texas, border state.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but is Austin on the border?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Not quite, no.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Alright, never mind.
Dude, calm down.
You should 100% have seen that coming.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine why.
dan friesen
It's irresponsible of you.
jordan holmes
Why would I have seen that coming?
What are the similarities?
dan friesen
It's the end of November 2014.
Alex is desperate to discredit the situation in Ferguson.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because it does not look good.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
We have a situation where just not too long before where we're at right now, the...
Damn it, I wish I had the exact date.
The policeman who shot Michael Brown was acquitted.
Right.
Darren Wilson was acquitted.
I don't have the exact date.
jordan holmes
Of course, I should have obviously made the connection that Alex would make a negative connection to a white man murdering a black person.
And then everybody being rightfully outraged by that to a white man shooting up a police station and the Mexican consulate.
And that, of course, makes sense.
dan friesen
Well, see, this is a thing where Alex has to take what's in front of him in his own city as an act of white supremacist terror, basically.
jordan holmes
So you compare it to the most recent act of white supremacist terror.
dan friesen
Well, the response...
jordan holmes
State-sponsored white supremacist terror.
dan friesen
You compare it to the reaction to...
The States.
jordan holmes
Nah!
See, that doesn't make sense to me.
dan friesen
No, it makes perfect sense if you're going from an Alex perspective.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because you need to...
jordan holmes
You just made me feel really good.
Even after all this time.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
I can't see things through Alex's eyes.
dan friesen
Oh, and I'd make myself feel terrible.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
You should feel awful if you saw that coming.
dan friesen
Well, because you need to look at it like...
jordan holmes
You've gone native, Dan.
dan friesen
I'm willing to throw this guy under the bus.
This white dude under the bus.
jordan holmes
Even though he's my guy.
dan friesen
But the only way I'm gonna do that is if on the way out I can tie him to legitimate protest.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That, you know, might have involved a little bit of looting here and there.
But that wasn't the entire protest.
That wasn't even most of it.
jordan holmes
Don't care.
Most of that shit should have burned down.
dan friesen
Well, there's an argument to be made there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, who cares?
The issue is you take white terrorism and black protest, and you conflate the two, and all of a sudden you can complain about both of them in the same way and appear that you're rising above the racial tension.
And he's like, oh, they're all just trying to get us to fight with each other when this clearly deranged lunatic shot up a bunch of police federal buildings, tried to burn down the Mexican consulate, like, nah, this is just protest.
jordan holmes
God, we could go line by line.
Everything that that guy did, Alex suggested that people should do.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
To a certain extent, I'm sure he did.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I bet word for word.
I guarantee that if we went through...
I would never force you to do all this work.
But if you went through everything that Alex Jones said from 2003 to the day before that, you would probably get...
Sooner or later, you would get like...
You should shoot up the police station.
Those courthouses need to be shot up.
unidentified
That Mexican consulate, who knows what they're doing there?
jordan holmes
Shoot it!
dan friesen
I got a real bone to pick with the Mexican consulate.
Got a bad...
jordan holmes
You know what?
Who doesn't?
dan friesen
Got a bad feeling about those people.
jordan holmes
I'm very pro-immigration.
But that Mexican consulate?
That's worse than the DMV.
dan friesen
No doubt.
jordan holmes
I tried to get my Mexican citizenship papers there, and they were like, you're not.
It was very difficult.
dan friesen
So Alex is operating on a bunch of real hard and fast sources.
Right.
jordan holmes
Imaginary.
dan friesen
There's a lot of real good information.
jordan holmes
Imaginary.
dan friesen
So let's jump into that.
alex jones
And I got a lot of heat from the quote black community.
dan friesen
Never like that.
I never like that.
unidentified
Shouldn't say quote black community.
dan friesen
I don't like that.
alex jones
Last week for criticizing.
Shooting at police and firefighters and shooting up their vehicles and shooting two cops and FBI agents got shot.
dan friesen
Real quick about those FBI agents.
This is from the CNBC article about that.
Quote, two FBI agents were shot at a barricaded home just miles from the protest-wracked St. Louis suburb of Ferguson early Wednesday, police said.
Both suffered non-threatening injuries after the shooting in North St. Louis County.
The incident occurred around 3.15 a.m. local time.
Authorities in St. Louis County have been dealing with violent protests after a grand jury decided not to indict Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson over the fatal shooting of unarmed teen Michael Brown.
It was not immediately clear whether the shooting was connected to the unrest.
So it's probably a completely unrelated thing at the time that Alex is able to report on it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So he's just relating things that he has no business.
It's just the same city.
jordan holmes
How far away were they from Ferguson's Mexican consulate?
dan friesen
That's a great question.
jordan holmes
That's a great question.
Why don't the cops ever investigate that?
dan friesen
I don't know.
alex jones
All sorts of stuff happened.
That makes protesting look bad.
And Time Magazine came out.
And said, violent riots necessary, close quote.
dan friesen
That is not a quote.
You should not be allowed to use closed quote when you're not quoting.
This was an article in Time magazine that was called not violent protests or violent riots are necessary.
The headline was in defense of rioting.
jordan holmes
Right.
Like what Martin Luther King Jr. wrote.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I'll read you a bit of that article that Alex doesn't want to deal with because he's never read it.
jordan holmes
I assume they probably quote MLK's Letters from a Birmingham.
dan friesen
No, actually they don't.
They could have.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they could have really gone hard on that.
dan friesen
Yeah, they don't.
jordan holmes
It seems like an obvious way to go.
dan friesen
No, it's just more of a discussion of the realities in our modern time.
Right, right, right.
Do you mean that...
jordan holmes
Violent protest is necessary?
dan friesen
And about how the Boston Tea Party was seen the way it is because we won.
And rioting has only ever looked bad when it's the group that doesn't win.
jordan holmes
Who won?
unidentified
Protesting always looks bad.
jordan holmes
To people who really don't like the content of what the protest is about.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Isn't that crazy?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's not...
It's just...
It's not the right way to do things, Dan.
It's not...
The right way is to just accept it that you're going to get fucked in the ass for the rest of your life and for the rest of your children's lives and really for the rest of America's life.
That's the right way to go about protesting, Dan.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
So, I don't want to dive too deep into that because we will get into it in a little bit.
But for now, I want Alex to get back to these headlines.
Because he's just got barn burners of headlines.
And keep in mind, some of these are the same story.
But a link from CNN and a link from Time Magazine.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
That sort of thing.
jordan holmes
Is there ever not much to talk about?
He always opens up, oh, we got so much to talk about.
Does he ever open up with like, not a lot going on today, guys.
I'm going to talk about demons.
dan friesen
Globalists are taking an off day.
No, everything is always intense.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Well, we're going to look at this headline, Time Magazine columnist, violent riots necessary.
That's from Time Magazine.
dan friesen
It's not.
alex jones
Also, CNN is lying when they say Ferguson protesters were peaceful.
dan friesen
That's an InfoWars article.
alex jones
Another key report.
jordan holmes
From InfoWars Time Magazine.
alex jones
Feds enable arsonists target oath keepers protecting Ferguson businesses.
dan friesen
It's all on video.
alex jones
Exclusive to InfoWars Nightly News.
Friday night.
dan friesen
So that was an article about how the brave, brave Oath Keepers are protecting St. Louis businesses and they're being attacked by the horrible protesters.
jordan holmes
Can I get a list of things that the Oath Keepers have protected?
dan friesen
Well, I don't want to talk about that right now.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
But what I do want to talk about is, Alex, in the last clip before this was talking about how there's so much going on involving the St. Louis situation in Ferguson.
jordan holmes
And it's all about how white people are great.
dan friesen
This is not going to be a full episode where we talk about the realities of Ferguson.
Other people have done much better jobs of that than we ever will.
jordan holmes
I also think we've done that before.
dan friesen
I don't think we have entirely.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
I don't think we have entirely either.
dan friesen
But when Alex brings up the Oath Keepers, it's really difficult for me not to point out that during the entire conflagration with Ferguson...
Policeman Dan Page was relieved of duty in St. Louis after he was caught on camera at an Oath Keepers meeting rattling off horribly racist, homophobic nonsense.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
In the police?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There was a white supremacist there?
dan friesen
He said that there are at least four sodomites on the Supreme Court and called Barack Obama...
jordan holmes
Which four?
dan friesen
Our, quote, undocumented president from Kenya.
jordan holmes
Who isn't?
dan friesen
Also, later...
jordan holmes
Seriously, which for on the Supreme Court?
dan friesen
When Don Lemon was in Ferguson covering the protests for CNN, this cop, Dan Page, physically assaulted him on camera.
jordan holmes
Well, he's a cop.
What else are we paying him for?
dan friesen
Don Lemon's black.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Hey, what else are we paying him for?
dan friesen
Right.
So that was a guy who's a part of the Oath Keepers.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that's kind of a bit of the mentality they got.
jordan holmes
Hey, do you know what they do, though?
And you gotta give them this.
They keep their oaths.
dan friesen
Sure.
To be racist as shit.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Now, also, admittedly, their oaths are not hard to keep.
dan friesen
If you think that this is an isolated incident, during the same time, policeman Ray Albers of the St. Ann Police Department was suspended after video came out of him pointing his semi-automatic service rifle at peaceful protesters and screaming shit at them like, quote, I will fucking kill you.
jordan holmes
Oh, man!
What?
There's a fascist in the police office?
dan friesen
Very strange behavior.
jordan holmes
Come on!
Where would you even find those guys?
dan friesen
Also, policeman Matthew Papert, who was on patrol during the Ferguson protests, would end up being suspended.
For posting stuff on Facebook like, quote, these protesters should have been put down like a rabid dog the first night.
And, quote, where is a Muslim with a backpack when you need him?
jordan holmes
I guess that's...
So Crow...
unidentified
Muslim?
It does indicate that he thinks they have utility.
jordan holmes
I mean, hey!
At least he's one for two in that statement.
dan friesen
Also, everybody talks about, and rightfully so, I don't think it's wrong to talk about the issue of Michael Brown.
But it would be really remiss to not point out that during the period between Michael Brown's murder and the acquittal of Darren Wilson, many other unarmed black men in St. Louis and the surrounding areas were murdered by the police.
Not just to name a few, Kajemi Powell and Von Derritt Myers Jr. were both two unarmed men.
Myers actually had a sandwich in his hand, so that could be seen as pretty terrible.
Great, great guys.
jordan holmes
Good job, America!
dan friesen
And there's a long, long history in Ferguson that goes back beyond this.
I believe the dollop did a great episode covering that, so if you want to learn more about that, check that out.
So there's this, there's a much more in-depth situation going on there, and his idea of these poor Oath Keepers trying to protect a business, and...
unidentified
Do we need 49-year-old white men?
dan friesen
Are we?
That situation worked itself out in some ways.
I mean, I don't mean to belittle the danger of that.
He could have really killed a lot of people.
He was motivated in a very negative direction.
We're back to McQuilliams.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, the answer is no.
jordan holmes
The answer is honestly no.
Look, I'm not...
I'm not saying that there should be some sort of government final solution on white men over the age of 40. I'm not saying that that's a good idea.
What I am saying is that there is no argument to the fact that we would be better off without them.
dan friesen
I'm sorry, bro.
jordan holmes
There's no reasonable argument.
dan friesen
I'm sorry, bro.
This bit has been 86ed.
So, Alex, at this point...
jordan holmes
Well, clearly I'm going to stop doing it.
dan friesen
Sure.
At this point in the show, Alex...
It sort of made his point, and that is that he views literal white terrorism as being the same as black protest.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which is interesting.
It's not.
It's very expected from Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, now that I'm there, I gotcha.
dan friesen
He's made his point, and I respect that he's been concise.
Because at this point, it's not very far into the episode.
It's maybe ten minutes in or something like that.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
So he nailed it, and he can avoid it from here on out.
dan friesen
And so now he wants to try and approach from a different direction.
jordan holmes
So if he keeps talking about this, though, eventually he's going to be like, I'm really a big fan of this white terrorist, right?
Like, the more he talks about it, the more it's going to sneak through the little cracks in his rhetoric.
dan friesen
Let's see.
alex jones
Globalists exploit ISIS threat to empower UN.
We're going to talk about the UN today.
I want to tie Black Friday in to kind of the lottery picket mentality that I see in the culture out there.
unidentified
Would he be happier if it was called White Friday?
jordan holmes
I think he would be.
dan friesen
So what do you think he's talking about?
I want to try and tie in Black Friday.
jordan holmes
Okay, he's going to try and tie in Black Friday.
So the globalists lower those prices.
So much to make sure that people will trample over each other and remain divided in order to keep us from fighting against the globalists.
dan friesen
Interesting theory.
alex jones
That the social engineers are using to great effect.
Obama was a big lottery ticket to the Democrats.
They thought they were going to get this big super deal.
Putting him to office.
Free gas, free cars, free homes.
You've seen it hurt the clubs.
Oh, thank you, Mr. President.
I don't have to worry about my gas, my car, my home.
It'll all be free.
And he'd say, that's right.
That's right.
You're going to get that.
dan friesen
Good impression.
alex jones
Wouldn't say, sorry, we can't take from somebody and give to you.
To that level.
So we're going to tie that into Black Friday, because here's the deal.
We have the articles up on InfoAwards.com and PrisonPlanet.com, but anybody can just search the term Black Friday is a fraud.
You'll get mainline news admitting it's some of the worst deals of the year.
dan friesen
Wait, what?
Wait, hold on.
Are we now pivoting to shopping tips?
unidentified
Because I think we are.
dan friesen
He does 10 minutes.
He does 10 minutes talking about this shooting and then pivots to Black Friday is an inside job.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
So, white terrorism, it's Ferguson's fault, essentially.
Black Friday, obviously.
He's just associating...
Whatever it is that's on his mind.
If it was Christmas, he would have been like, commercializing Christmas.
If it was Easter, he would have been like, we've got our Easter sales.
He would have just done whatever is regional.
It's like the date.
dan friesen
He's just mad because he had to go shopping the other day.
He had to go get gifts for his kids and he's pissed off about it.
jordan holmes
Well, he doesn't like buying things for other people.
dan friesen
It does end up being like a five minute rant on the show.
It goes on quite a while.
jordan holmes
About Black Friday.
Okay.
alex jones
When the state cuts off sales tax, that is...
jordan holmes
Black Friday is white terrorism, so that makes sense.
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
alex jones
For stuff you need.
And I'm not against commerce and sales.
That's what a vibrant economy has.
I'm not against consumerism for quality, but mindless consumerism, I'm totally against.
That's what Black Friday is.
As a merchant, as someone that sells and develops products very successfully...
I know what specials and deals are, and Black Friday is always very upsetting, because the scam with Walmart and Target and the rest of them is, they raise the prices the week before, they drop them that day, and you don't get a discount.
We don't do that at InfoWarsLife.com, InfoWarsStore.com, whether it's books, t-shirts, high-quality supplements, water filters.
dan friesen
Ad pivot, baby!
The whole thing is an ad pivot.
That's pretty impressive.
jordan holmes
That is the chutes and ladders performance of a lifetime.
dan friesen
Realistically, that's...
jordan holmes
To get from white terrorism to Ferguson is bad, but not in the way you think.
It's bad against white people.
dan friesen
But I don't think that hinged.
jordan holmes
And then to Black Friday.
dan friesen
I think that those are two standalone pivots, because you've got the pivot from white terrorism to Ferguson, and then you've got the pivot from Black Friday's an inside job to, hey, we love selling things.
jordan holmes
It's not that he's against consumerism.
dan friesen
Loves it.
jordan holmes
He's against consumerism, just the mindless type.
unidentified
Right.
He likes people who are consumerist for quality.
jordan holmes
Thoughtful consumerism.
Absolutely.
You've got to think about it before you buy.
dan friesen
Right.
What?
I don't know.
Also, by the way, generally...
jordan holmes
I love imaginary rules that just pop up.
Okay, no.
This behavior that I ostensibly condemn.
Yes, it is still terrible.
But not the way I do it.
Look, okay.
So the Bible is all about those, like, don't lie.
But not the way I lie.
The way you lie.
dan friesen
Not if you're a smooth liar.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's those white lies.
You know, that's no big deal.
dan friesen
White.
jordan holmes
White means good.
Lies.
Good lies.
dan friesen
Also, generally, sales are determined based off MSRP, not off what the price was last week.
unidentified
I know.
dan friesen
But it's a good way to make people scared of merchants.
jordan holmes
As two people who put out quality products.
dan friesen
So many.
jordan holmes
Like, that one button we made.
dan friesen
We have two shirts.
I mean, two physically two shirts.
unidentified
We have two physically two shirts, yes.
jordan holmes
What else do we got?
Also, those shirts were not made.
No.
They were a gift made by a wonderful, wonderful man.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's not commerce.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're bad at that.
That could be interstate commerce?
dan friesen
I did send my shirt to Texas.
jordan holmes
Did we barter?
dan friesen
No.
But, guys, I don't know.
Let's just jump to this next clip.
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
dan friesen
Alex has now successfully done this...
Kerry Strug level gymnastics.
jordan holmes
I was about to go.
Yeah, yeah.
Well done.
I was going to go with acrobatic, but nice.
dan friesen
Just amazing work of art ad pivot.
And now he gets back to the main issue at hand, which is, of course, this shooting that happened in Austin.
Because he lives in Austin.
It's his responsibility to talk about it.
But you'll see over and over again as we go through the episode, he can't talk about it without bringing up Ferguson.
It's the only thing that he can do.
alex jones
I'm going to really get serious and get focused here.
Because to me, the guy that shot up the police station and the Mexican consulate in the federal building is really no different, the white guy, than the predominantly black people led by Democratic Party operatives on record.
That's who's calling for the violence, communist groups and others, to go out and burn down black neighborhoods in protest.
And then if you're against burning down a black neighborhood in protest, whether you're right or wrong, I think Mr. Brown's the wrong guy to protest about.
I think he's a thug from the evidence and the cop told the truth.
jordan holmes
But even while trying to decry the Democratic Party's co-option of these peaceful protests and turning them into a racist attack meant to divide us, even though, even in the middle of doing that, he's still got to be racist as fuck.
Just gotta do it.
dan friesen
Now might not be the time to show you this cover.
jordan holmes
Two silver dollars at cost for $72.
Holy shit.
That is an amazing deal that you can only get from Midas Resources.
dan friesen
No, this is a copy of InfoWars Magazine that so kindly got for us by listener Keegan.
Look at the cover of that bitch.
jordan holmes
Great.
unidentified
Yeah.
Great.
Okay.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
For everyone watching out there, this is the cover of the Infowars magazine.
It's got George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin as half and half of the same face with the words divide and conquer under it as if to suggest that murderer and victim are the same.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which is kind of like, I mean, this is where he's at.
But he's not like this when a white person is the victim.
He's never like that.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
Like Katie Steinle here.
He's made cottage industry out of demonizing immigrants because of this accidental death of a white woman at the, pains me even to say, at the hands of a Mexican gentleman.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because it was an errant shot that accidentally went off and bounced off the concrete and hit her.
There's no intention there.
So, like, this is what, I mean, this is just, it's hard to take him at all.
Seriously.
You know what I mean?
It's just like, when you're saying that Michael Brown is a thug and you think that the police didn't lie and he acted responsibly, I know where you're coming from, bro.
And it's the same place, probably.
jordan holmes
Where would he be coming from?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's McQuilliams.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
It's evidence-based, right?
dan friesen
Evidence.
jordan holmes
Like, he saw the video and there's just no other way to take it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
That's why my favorite articles to read are ones written by people who are like, we need to understand these people.
They don't like being called racists because racist is a bad word.
And you're like, oh!
Oh no!
Are they?
How could you prove it?
How could you prove this racism?
They don't like that label, Dan.
You can't tell them that they're racist.
It's so offensive.
dan friesen
I wouldn't like it either.
jordan holmes
Go fuck yourself!
dan friesen
I don't like the label cross-eye either, but guess what?
The shoe fits.
And that's not even something I did that I'm choosing.
Right.
People like Alex Jones, you gotta wear that racist label, buddy.
jordan holmes
Look, if that's what you want to do, then you just own it.
dan friesen
If you want to put out a magazine with that cover...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Then just call yourself a white nationalist magazine.
dan friesen
Yeah, why not?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You love Ron Paul already.
jordan holmes
They love white nationalists.
Just join in.
And at this point, with Alex's dwindling numbers all across the board, his best bet is to just...
Push all his chips into the white nationalist corner.
He's not going to have crossover appeal at any point in time anymore.
dan friesen
Also, something we went over in the last episode, in the last year, Alex Jones, if you go to Alexa.com, the internet statistic ranking...
He has dropped, in the last year, 1,000 ranks in terms of his position as a website.
jordan holmes
They're expanding, though.
dan friesen
He went from 3,000, 3,200 or so?
jordan holmes
Something like that.
dan friesen
3,200 to 4,100.
Yep, to 4,100 in the last year.
That's uncanny.
That's a terrible drop.
jordan holmes
It's a weird time for that.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he should just double down.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
He's going to wind up gaining listeners.
dan friesen
Yeah, instead he just loses listeners on both ends.
He loses normal people, and then he loses the actual hardcore bigots because they're like, you're not hardcore enough.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
I'm going to David Duke.
jordan holmes
Right.
And it would also make our job very different because then finally everybody in the right-wing watchosphere will be like, oh, we can just discount him.
He's a white nationalist.
Fuck off.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
So, Alex, I would like to tell you now at this point why.
He's always right about everything.
alex jones
Welcome back, my friends.
The reason I have what a lot of folks call an uncanny grasp on events and predictions is really no secret at all.
Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
And I have studied history.
dan friesen
So, I have been able to gleam that most of his understanding from history...
jordan holmes
You said gleam?
dan friesen
Glean.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I just want to double check.
dan friesen
I might have accidentally said gleam.
jordan holmes
No, I just always have a...
dan friesen
I might have.
jordan holmes
Like, I have a weird thing about those, like, you just get just a little bit wrong, like, take it for granite.
dan friesen
Granite instead of granite?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a weird thing.
I might do that myself all the time.
dan friesen
I accept the possibility I might have said gleam.
jordan holmes
Have you always said gleam?
dan friesen
No.
I've gleaned the...
The idea...
jordan holmes
Because you may be one of the fae folk who use gleams to mask their pointy ears.
dan friesen
The cube?
jordan holmes
The gleam the cube?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Gleam the cube?
jordan holmes
They're fae.
They're fairies.
unidentified
I don't care.
jordan holmes
They live in a midsummer night's dream.
dan friesen
I'll leave you hanging.
Enjoy it.
unidentified
So, I've deduced.
dan friesen
Got some fun with that one?
jordan holmes
I'm enjoying myself immensely.
dan friesen
So, I've figured out that most of Alex Jones' history understanding, he says that he's read 90 books about Nazis and all these books about the Civil War.
Most of it actually just comes from, like, none dare call it conspiracy and Nazi propaganda, as demonstrated by this next clip.
alex jones
The American Revolution became the model of freedom worldwide.
jordan holmes
Nope.
alex jones
Not because we were perfect, not because we didn't have some problems, but because markedly after the Seven Year War that started in 1776 and the final ratification years later in 1798 of the Bill of Rights, it created the greatest...
Level of freedom, comparatively, in the time they were living, that anyone had ever seen in the world.
And so America became the revolutionary idea.
And in British newspapers and in Russian newspapers and Japanese newspapers, the elites openly bemoaned the American system, they called it, and the model.
By the 1830s, saying we can't compete with people getting to keep 90% of their money.
We can't compete with low regulations.
We can't compete without a class system.
We need monopolies.
jordan holmes
We can't compete without slavery.
alex jones
We need to finance powerful combines in the U.S. to take it over.
You see the rise of J.P. Morgan, the Rockefellers, all financed by the Dutch royal family, the British royal family, and by the Rothschilds.
I mean, go look it up.
That's mainline history.
The robber barons, the Rothschilds, all of it.
The Rothschilds in Europe, if they wanted your country, they would just finance some nearby dictator to invade you.
And they didn't care if they lost, because they would finance the other opposition.
jordan holmes
Right, so I think the problem is clear, and that is people having too much wealth.
So we should do something about that, right?
dan friesen
There's another problem, and that is all that's based on pseudo-history and lore.
So accurately has declared that's what he believes in.
A lot of that history does come from his non-dare-call-it-conspiracy world, which we'll be dealing with in great detail shortly.
jordan holmes
Wasn't the Haitian Revolution well before the United States?
dan friesen
It wasn't the model.
jordan holmes
Well, that's because everybody was free at the end of it.
dan friesen
Not a good model.
Terrible model.
jordan holmes
That's right.
It was a bad model.
I apologize.
unidentified
If you want the greatest amount of freedom that will get coverage in Japanese newspapers.
jordan holmes
Pre-Meiji Restoration Japanese newspapers.
unidentified
You need to have complete freedom.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You need to have almost selective freedom.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine for whom.
dan friesen
Right.
So that's a little bit, that's another indication to me that I'm like, maybe you don't have a great grasp on history.
jordan holmes
No, he's read 60 books that are filled with lies.
dan friesen
I would say that it is uncanny.
I would say that.
So at this point, Alex Jones wants to ask, this is the guiding question of the show.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Were he to be a not lunatic person?
jordan holmes
If he were not to be.
dan friesen
Right.
If that were to twer the case, he would open up the phone lines and, like, have a reasonable conversation about this.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
But as soon as I heard him ask this guy in question, I said to myself, you know, goddamn way he's answering that question.
jordan holmes
Okay, let's hear it.
alex jones
What is legitimate rebellion?
What is legitimate revolution?
unidentified
Long pause.
alex jones
And I think we should have this topic all throughout the week, not just on this Sunday show, because this is such a big issue.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
You're not going to cover this at all, and I'm going to guess in your next episode you're not going to cover it either.
jordan holmes
What is legitimate revolution?
Dan?
dan friesen
I feel like it's like the Supreme Court definition of pornography.
jordan holmes
I know it when I see it.
All right.
dan friesen
I take everything on a case-by-case basis.
There's a lot of circumstantial stuff cross-culturally that maybe applies to us, doesn't apply to other folk, you know, in terms of the historical basis of our society.
jordan holmes
What's your favorite revolution?
dan friesen
Probably the revolution of the Japanese newspaper system.
Circa 1794.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, I remember that.
No, my favorite.
That was an amazing musical.
It was called The Japanese Newsies, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was great.
Japanewsies.
That sounds iffy.
That sounds not good.
dan friesen
It's a portmanteau, but it doesn't feel good.
unidentified
It doesn't sound good.
dan friesen
It doesn't feel good coming out of your mouth.
unidentified
I almost said it, and I was like, I don't think I will.
dan friesen
I could defend it in a court of law.
jordan holmes
I think so, too.
I think so, too.
unidentified
It's where I put on trial.
I would gleam all the information from that.
dan friesen
What's a legitimate rebellion to you?
Boxer?
jordan holmes
I'm actually going to go with whiskey.
dan friesen
Alright.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with the whiskey rebellion.
I felt like that one was pretty good.
dan friesen
I'm fine with it.
I don't know.
I also think that my standard for what a legitimate rebellion is probably falls drastically lower than Alex's.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I believe that, like...
unidentified
I think that...
dan friesen
It's hard to say what, like...
It's very complicated.
Because later in this episode, I didn't keep it in because Alex doesn't respond to his caller who says it.
Otherwise, if he had responded in any way, I would have kept this clip in.
But he does ask a caller, what's a legitimate reason?
Like, what's a final straw for you?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the caller says, if I see the government rounding people up, then it's time.
That's the final straw.
jordan holmes
Oh, so now he's finally doing it.
Now he has decided that it is the final straw.
2017, when the immigration policy was enacted, he saw that the government was rounding people up, and he decided that was my breaking point.
And so he has absolutely, I'm sure...
Confirmed that he will...
dan friesen
Stop doing this because I don't know who this caller was.
jordan holmes
I'm not worried about it.
dan friesen
And that's the reason why I didn't keep it in.
It's because it's the caller saying it and Alex just moves on to another topic after the caller says that.
If Alex had said, yes, absolutely, that is a line in the sand, I would have kept it in and been like, hey, look at this dickhole.
But since he didn't respond, I don't want to put his caller's words on him.
Although I would assume that back then he would say that that's a principle of his.
Because he lies about FEMA camps all the time.
You would think that.
jordan holmes
Here's the other thing.
I do.
What we know, though, what we are aware of now is that that is not our threshold for revolution.
dan friesen
Turns out it's not.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Turns out that if the government is rounding people...
Boy, is that a bummer.
Like, for me.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, I would love...
I would love...
It should be.
We should be revolutioning.
The government is rounding up people, separating them from their families.
The fucking police are murdering people.
All of our institutions are fucking destroyed.
They are left in shambles.
This is perfect revolution time.
This is when we should be revolutioning.
And it turns out that I'm too much of a pussy.
I'm waiting for other people to revolution.
I want to join in.
But I'm not going to be the guy to throw the first fucking stone.
It's pathetic.
I hate myself for this.
dan friesen
It's a complicated thing and I don't...
unidentified
Right?
dan friesen
Yeah, but the reason that I don't agree with you and I feel kind of shitty that I don't agree with you is that I still don't think that that's the right way to deal with it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I still think that what you're going to end up doing in that case is making things worse for the people who are marginalized.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
We're going to be French revolutioning.
And that's an unfortunate...
dan friesen
But we would get to behead some rich people.
You and I are what I would describe as, even though we're, especially me, pretty damn poor, fairly bougie white young males.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I don't think that we are in a very...
No, of course not.
So if we were to go and, let's say, try and organize or go weatherman on people's asses and blow up an occupied building or something like that in an attempt to bring awareness to the plight of people who are being victimized by ICE, there's a really decent chance that all that would end up happening is radicalizing more people in ICE and making the situation way worse.
I don't know what the right solution is.
I don't begrudge people who think that, like, We've got to get hurrah or whatever.
But I don't know.
I still think the courts conceivably are the right way to go about things.
jordan holmes
No, I think we're fucked on the courts.
dan friesen
You might be able to turn things around.
jordan holmes
I think we're fucked on the courts.
I think my feelings are a general strike.
dan friesen
That's not a bad idea.
jordan holmes
It's just like we're not trying to overthrow the government.
We're just saying, you're fucking up so much, we're going to fuck up.
Your shit.
dan friesen
I think it'd be interesting.
jordan holmes
We're finally going to fuck up your shit.
dan friesen
Well, because that would be sort of a larger scale version of blocking traffic, slowing down the city.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think that's...
jordan holmes
Look, if rich people are going to control the government, then fuck rich people.
We're going to fuck with your bottom line, I guess.
I don't know.
dan friesen
I think there's a good in-between.
And I just...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
I don't either.
jordan holmes
Anyways, let's start one.
dan friesen
So, at this point, Alex has something that I love so much, and that is a shot and a chaser here on this.
Here's the shot where Alex is getting petty coming in from a commercial break.
unidentified
InfoWars, powered by truth.
alex jones
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
You may have heard that before.
I've been saying it about 15 years.
Another talk show host now uses that term, which is fine with me.
It's just that when people then rip off what you're doing, then people think you're ripping them off.
So you've got to say, no, I've been saying Infowars.com is powered by truth since 1996.
Powered by truth.
Infowars.com.
dan friesen
So, that's the show.
You take that little bit of tequila, and here comes that lime.
alex jones
Here is Time Magazine on Friday.
jordan holmes
Good work.
alex jones
I just ripped off Rush Limbaugh right there.
Ferguson, I always love that.
That's got the article right here.
unidentified
So, two minutes later.
dan friesen
He jostles some paper and he's like, oh, he just ripped off Roger Limbaugh by jostling paper around after he's complaining about someone ripping him off saying, powered by truth.
I googled it.
I couldn't figure out.
I'm sure he's talking about Glenn Beck, but I couldn't figure out who he was talking about who said they were powered by truth.
Yeah, probably was a one-off.
unidentified
You know what?
jordan holmes
It might not be a good idea to say powered by truth because that kind of suggests the same way that things are powered by gasoline insofar as you burn it.
And transform it into something that is destroying the planet.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, he's got that paper.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He's ripping off Rush.
jordan holmes
Shaking it.
dan friesen
He's ripping off Rush.
jordan holmes
Doing some great Foley work.
dan friesen
Which I'm sure he's done before this, but I like to imagine that this is the canonical beginning of the paper.
It's not, but...
So here we go.
Let's get to these headlines.
alex jones
That's got the article right here.
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
Ferguson in defense of rioting.
unidentified
By Darlena Kunha?
dan friesen
The way he says that name is...
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
It's not what the name sounds like, but even, like, no matter what, there's a racism in the way he says that name.
Like, as if it's a question.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know?
jordan holmes
Is it C-U-N-H-A?
dan friesen
C-U-H-N-A, I believe.
jordan holmes
So, like...
Cuna?
Cuna is probably the correct pronunciation.
dan friesen
I'm not saying that that's not the right pronunciation.
It's the way he was like, what?
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
Is this a name?
jordan holmes
In the same way that he says white and it makes you feel uncomfortable.
dan friesen
Yes, 100%.
jordan holmes
Cun is, yeah, yeah, no thanks.
Hard pass.
alex jones
And she goes on to just say it's wonderful, basically.
Okay, here's another one.
Time Magazine columnist, violent riots necessary, close quote.
Bunch of other garbage.
Here's one out of CNN.
CNN is lying when they say Ferguson protests were, quote, peaceful.
We have the video clip.
I mean, I'm just going to vomit.
dan friesen
Those aren't articles from CNN or any new articles.
That's just Infowars coverage of other articles.
So now, back to this Time article, the Time magazine article that Alex is saying goes on to just say, violent rioting is wonderful, and she's for it.
jordan holmes
Also, that's great analysis right there.
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, you'd expect him to actually get into the arguments, the nuance of it, instead of just misrepresenting the headline and then lying about what's in the body of it.
jordan holmes
It's actually...
You know what?
In our...
It could be...
We could just do that.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Like, in reality, all we would be like...
Look, this InfoWars clip, I mean, basically all he says is he's racist.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, that might be accurate.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
dan friesen
So here's from this article, because Alex doesn't want to get into it.
Let's discuss it a little.
Quote, when a police officer shoots a young unarmed black man in the streets, then does not face indictment.
jordan holmes
Murders.
Murders.
Let's not say shoots.
dan friesen
I'm just reading the text on the page.
jordan holmes
I know, I know.
You're quoting it.
dan friesen
Anger in the community is inevitable.
It's what we do with that anger that counts.
In such a case, is rioting so wrong?
Riots are a necessary part of the evolution of society.
Unfortunately, we do not live in a universal utopia where people have the basic human rights they deserve simply for existing.
Until we get there, the legitimate frustration, sorrow, and pain of the marginalized voices will boil over, spilling out into our streets.
As, quote, normal citizens watch the events of Ferguson unfurl on their television screens and Twitter feeds, There's a lot of head-shaking, finger-pointing, and privileged explanation going on.
We wish to seclude the incident and the people involved, to separate it from our history as a nation, to dehumanize the change agents because of their bad and sometimes violent decisions, because if we can separate the underlying racial tensions that clearly exist in our country from the looting and the rioting of select individuals, we can continue to ignore the problem.
I would put forth that peaceful protesting is a luxury of those already in mainstream culture.
Those who can be assured their voices will be heard without violence.
Those who can afford to wait for the change they want.
I risk sounding racist, but if this was a white kid, there would be no riot.
Another person wrote on the Tea Party page, History shows us that blacks in this country are more apt to riot than any other population.
They are stirred up by racist black people and set out to cause problems.
End of story.
So that's a post that she is referencing from a Tea Party page.
Sounds a lot like Alex.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Blacks in this country are more apt to riot because they are one of the populations...
jordan holmes
The more oppressed?
dan friesen
They are one of the populations here who still need to.
In the case of the 1992 riots about Rodney King, 30 years of black people trying to talk about their struggles of racial profiling and muted but still vastly unfair treatment came to a boil.
Sometimes enough is simply too much.
And after that catalyst event, the landscape of Southern California changed.
And nationally, police forces take note.
At no point in the article does she say that violent rioting is good, or that rioting is good.
It just goes to discuss.
The underlying causes and what's going on here.
The conversation that Alex Jones is unwilling to engage in.
jordan holmes
She explains why it is a reasonable thought.
It is not an irrational thought.
It would be irrational if white people rioted over anything.
That's an irrational thought.
If you've been oppressed for...
Always.
If you are being murdered by the cops who are ostensibly there to protect you.
Time to riot.
And it's not that I'm advocating it.
That's a totally reasonable thought.
dan friesen
It's another thing, too, I think, if it wasn't after...
I mean, if it was ever...
The other thing is we have to even take this away from it being a riot riot.
You know?
jordan holmes
Right, it wasn't even that.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Also, you also have to add in the fact that these same things, the same things they are saying now about how this isn't the right way to do it and all that bullshit, they said about Colin Kaepernick kneeling.
It doesn't matter how severe it gets.
What does it matter if you riot if they're going to say the same thing if you peacefully protest?
dan friesen
Yeah, the bottom line is always sit down.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Sit down, shut up.
jordan holmes
Hey, wait your turn.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Wait your turn that's never coming.
dan friesen
Right.
So I read that because I think it's important, and I don't know if everybody has read that article or will go read it.
I think some of that is important to know that this is the article that Alex refuses to read and is misrepresenting in service of trying to tie the situation in Ferguson to this dum-dum.
jordan holmes
Still can't believe he's trying to do that.
dan friesen
And was not drunk.
Had a serious, like, legit plan.
Had his guns.
Had a getaway car.
He had laid out his funeral clothes at home with a note.
He left a bag of food for his pets on his neighbor's door that said, you know, you can tell the FBI you didn't know anything.
No one knows about this.
alex jones
Great.
dan friesen
Like, that sort of shit.
So, like, he had his bases covered.
This guy, this was not like, I'm drunk at 2 in the morning, I'm going to set the Mexican consulate on fire, because, I don't know, I don't like X, Y, or Z. So, at this point in the show, Alex has proffered the question earlier, he's presented, what is the time?
What is a legitimate revolution?
And he gives a pretty narrow version of that.
jordan holmes
I believe it's actually a minor increase in tariffs on tea.
That's the correct time to...
dan friesen
No, he gives a pretty opposite answer that is very narrow.
Okay.
alex jones
When is it legitimate to get violent?
Well, I'll tell you when it is.
When you're under attack, and let's say you're a Ukrainian in 1935.
dan friesen
Very specific.
alex jones
And the Leninists are raping your wives, taking you to slave labor camps, disappearing people.
They're invading your country.
They're dragging you away.
It's clearly tyranny.
You've got a right and a duty to defend yourself.
Nazi Germany, 1943.
Somebody's coming down to the basement where you're hiding to take you to a concentration camp.
You have a right and a duty to defend yourself.
jordan holmes
This is 2014, right?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
So say you're a Ukrainian.
dan friesen
70 years in the past.
jordan holmes
Say you're a Ukrainian.
unidentified
Perhaps...
jordan holmes
In your present!
Oh, no, no.
dan friesen
He's...
No, no, no, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
In your current existence.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
Why did he pick Ukrainian then?
There's only one other reason to have Ukrainian on your mind.
dan friesen
He's totally cool with that.
jordan holmes
I know he's totally cool with that.
That's why it's weird to me that he picked Ukraine specifically.
dan friesen
Of course.
Also...
By the way, because we're doing 2018 is Soros Watch 18. Right.
jordan holmes
Because we're right on time.
dan friesen
As of November 30th, 2014.
jordan holmes
No Soros?
dan friesen
Soros is in play.
jordan holmes
Oh, he is in play.
dan friesen
Yes.
100%.
He's one of the villains.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
He's one of the big, big bad guys.
jordan holmes
So somewhere between 2009 and 2014.
dan friesen
Gotcha.
Which...
Unfortunately, it does not narrow anything down in terms of my suspicions.
jordan holmes
Not a lot.
dan friesen
Because those are the two years that are of interest.
But at least we know it's by 2014.
Anyway, I would say that this next clip is redundant, perhaps, but let's listen to it anyway.
alex jones
Now, this guy was white.
jordan holmes
White!
alex jones
What's his name?
49-year-old Larry Stephen McWilliams.
Now, am I going to get accused of being anti-white?
Because I support the police killing him when he's trying to kill people?
jordan holmes
No!
alex jones
It's pointless protest.
It's mindless to just go out and start shooting things up.
That's going to get us into a civil war, not fix things.
Whether it's Ferguson or Austin, black or white, it's bad.
dan friesen
Well, that's only if you think these two things are the same thing.
That's only if you think they're the same thing, and they're not.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, in both cases, it is bad for a white person to start murdering people.
Even though in this case, they did not murder.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Even though in this case, it was not the cops.
dan friesen
They certainly could.
jordan holmes
Murdering.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex reads a news report of...
I don't know if I put enough of a point on that last clip.
The reason I had it in there was, again, just to reinforce that he can't deal with this without changing the goalposts.
You know, moving it down.
jordan holmes
No, because he's a fan.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's a fan.
He likes this guy.
dan friesen
He kind of does.
And I actually have a fucking damning thing to bring up at the end of this.
jordan holmes
Of course he does.
dan friesen
But in order for Alex to cover the news about this even, he kind of has to treat it like it's a joke.
And you'll see what I mean immediately.
alex jones
A white middle-aged gunman.
Can you imagine if it was a black guy?
They wouldn't even say that.
unidentified
Immediately.
alex jones
That's how the race media works.
A white middle-aged gunman in what appears to be a politically motivated anti-government attack.
He fired more than 100 rounds at buildings in downtown Austin early Friday and tried to set fire to the Mexican consulate before he died of a gun.
dan friesen
He has to put on a mocking voice just to read the news.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what the fuck is that?
dan friesen
That's insane.
That's insane.
And the things that he's saying are legitimately horrifying.
He shot over 100 rounds at these buildings.
That's not cool.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
That's not good.
jordan holmes
Oh, the white supremacists have enslaved black people for hundreds of years.
Like, what are you doing starting a civil war?
unidentified
Oh, you guys think it's so bad to be enslaved.
dan friesen
This is about tariffs.
jordan holmes
Fuck off.
dan friesen
So, of course, we know that lying just below the surface of all this is natural fear about the Second Amendment.
Of course.
jordan holmes
Gotta have guns.
dan friesen
It's interesting that that doesn't come up as much as I would have expected in this episode.
jordan holmes
You would have thought that he would have talked more about how he's mentally ill.
It's not that he's got access to guns.
dan friesen
That's no problem.
I mean, of course, it's sort of like the idea is in place that this is like, it's fake.
And shit like that's like a false flag kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Like, that's always in play.
jordan holmes
There's always there.
dan friesen
It's always in play.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But I would have thought that there would be more fears about the Second Amendment than there actually are.
jordan holmes
Because of this white guy doing it, they're going to come after your guns.
dan friesen
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And that's what the globalists want, so they're pushing them out there.
jordan holmes
That's why they always put white people out there.
dan friesen
So there's less of that than I expected, but it does crop up, and here we see it.
alex jones
And their plan to try to get the Second Amendment.
jordan holmes
What's their plan?
dan friesen
They, again.
jordan holmes
What's their plan?
dan friesen
Globalists.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Is to hype events like this to get other unstable people, out of 200 million gun owners roughly now, gun owners are just taking over the country, lowering crime everywhere we are.
How do they plan to stop it?
With TV shows and dramas and movies where crazy people go, instead of committing suicide, you go shoot at a police station.
jordan holmes
Right.
alex jones
It's like death by cop, suicide by cop.
They are hyping this to try to create a chain reaction.
And you notice how long I've been warning of this because I can see the programming.
dan friesen
Or you hung out with a bunch of weirdos who wanted to shoot up police stations.
jordan holmes
Or your biggest fans want to shoot up police stations.
dan friesen
Or you go and do speaking engagements and people keep coming up to you and saying, let's go blob a police building.
jordan holmes
Or you say specifically...
Sometimes it's a good idea to blow up the police.
dan friesen
Or your entire career is largely built on denying that a guy who blew up a federal building actually did it.
jordan holmes
I don't know if he did or not.
What?
Like, what's next?
He killed RFK?
That's crazy.
dan friesen
False flag, and all I need to do is say Elohim City.
All of a sudden, I have an argument.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
I've got an argument.
jordan holmes
Think about Ferguson.
dan friesen
Elohim City.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's where Ferguson actually went.
That was the original name.
dan friesen
Totally.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
So, you know, this is just real standard shit.
So at this point, Alex...
jordan holmes
Where are we going?
dan friesen
This clip's weird.
jordan holmes
Where are we going with this?
dan friesen
This clip is really weird.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Do you understand that the police are the second most awake group?
I've done an analysis of it.
jordan holmes
White supremacist?
dan friesen
Real quick.
jordan holmes
White supremacist.
Who's the first most white supremacist?
What?
The army?
dan friesen
And it might be.
It might be the army is number one.
He doesn't specify, but also, I want to know what awake means.
I know that he probably means aware of the globalists.
White supremacists.
Conceivably, there's parallel.
jordan holmes
White supremacists.
dan friesen
But so, the police are the second most awake group.
I want to know what number one is.
Also, I want to know what number three is.
And number four.
jordan holmes
You know what's crazy?
Number three?
Elks Club.
dan friesen
Could be.
Shriners.
jordan holmes
Shriners, absolutely.
dan friesen
I would like to see...
jordan holmes
All marching bands.
dan friesen
I would like to see his write-up.
I'd like to see his hypothesis.
jordan holmes
Where's the graph?
dan friesen
I'd love to see that.
I'd love to see his data on this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's got to have an XL.
dan friesen
I would really, really love just to be able to go over this, peer-review it.
Get to the bottom of exactly what his...
jordan holmes
Is this an online poll?
dan friesen
I mean, he dropped out of junior college, so I assume that he's not big on the scientific method.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
dan friesen
But I don't know.
jordan holmes
Well, he's based his entire life on none dare call it a conspiracy, so the scientific method isn't really...
dan friesen
Shows that he's not a literature or history major.
jordan holmes
Frankly, reality is not part of his calculus there.
dan friesen
Not a reality major.
alex jones
And I've seen the polls.
The system is so god-awful scared of the police, it ought to make your head spin, ladies and gentlemen.
We are so close to saving the country.
And they want to overturn the chessboard because we're winning and start a civil war with staged terror attacks to blame the liberty movement.
And they're worried that we're watching so they won't pull those off.
So they're going to try to hype it to get mentally ill people to go out and do stuff to create a climate of fear.
Statistically so far, extremely low chance of a patriot shooting cops.
Statistically very low chance of some black inner city person burning down a building.
But the media is trying to hype it like it's all imminent.
We need to de-escalate all this, settle down, realize what's really happening.
dan friesen
So there's a lot of interesting stuff going on there at the end.
Alex saying that the odds of a patriot shooting a cop being really low is...
Not true.
It's cockamamie.
Just do any looking into sovereign citizens and find out how often they shoot a cop because they believe they have the right to travel on roads without a license and then get really upset because the king's men are coming and they don't recognize the authority of Admiral T. police officers.
So what I find really interesting there is that he's like, the odds of a patriot shooting a cop are super low.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The odds of a black guy burning a building in...
jordan holmes
The odds are that a white person is going to burn down a building and a black person is going to shoot a cop.
That's the only conclusion to drop from that sentence.
He's making a direct...
dan friesen
Not even that.
jordan holmes
This is the incorrect comparison for both of these.
dan friesen
Not even that.
A white person is most likely to do both of those things.
jordan holmes
That's true.
That's absolutely true.
dan friesen
If you count, like, the sovereign citizens, the free men on the land, and all those types of weird patriot militia types who are real, real against people having authority.
jordan holmes
But nonkers crazy.
dan friesen
They shoot most of the cops, quite frankly.
And then you get into, like...
You're right.
Those black people aren't the ones who are setting fire to their buildings.
unidentified
Right!
dan friesen
You see, like, all of the indications of the agent provocateurs that were on the scene in Ferguson, and, like, police who had infiltrated protest groups and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're great.
dan friesen
You know, you get those sorts of indications.
You're like, yeah, maybe it's...
jordan holmes
My favorite argument there is because we're watching...
They can't false flag these anymore.
They can't engineer them.
dan friesen
Right, he does that a lot.
jordan holmes
Right, we're watching them too closely.
dan friesen
He says that a lot, and then yet false flags keep happening.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, but this one he's saying, because it was real, they hype it up like it happens all the time.
dan friesen
Oh.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So, his argument is, they can't do it themselves because we do it for them all the time.
dan friesen
That is kind of part of the argument he's making, which isn't strong.
jordan holmes
That's not a good argument.
dan friesen
It's not good.
None of this is good.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So now, in this next clip, we get what's really not good.
jordan holmes
What's that?
alex jones
Is this reported man in Austin, Friday morning at 2.20 in the morning, 49-year-old Larry Stephen McQuilliams.
Shot up the police department and the Mexican consulate and a bank and a federal building.
And the media, who I don't believe, but it could be true, says he was basically mad about open borders.
I don't think that's legitimate.
I think that makes the law-abiding citizens that are against totally open borders and Obama acting as a dictator look illegitimate.
He's a white guy, by the way.
I'm not siding against him because he's white.
dan friesen
Interesting that he keeps bringing that up and keep being weird about it.
jordan holmes
First off, this reported man, I don't even know if he's real.
I don't know if any of this happened.
I don't trust the media.
They're saying it's true.
So I'm going to take it on face value.
And they're saying that he was mad about open borders, which, who knows about that?
I mean, yeah.
He shot up the Mexican consulate.
dan friesen
He tried to set it on fire.
jordan holmes
He tried to set it on fire.
But that could be anything.
That could be anything, Dan.
dan friesen
You know who had a shockingly similar take on the situation to Alex Jones?
jordan holmes
Who?
dan friesen
About the idea that this is just going to make people who are against open borders look bad.
jordan holmes
Can't imagine anybody.
What?
dan friesen
Why would they say that?
Stormfront had identical talking points to Alex Jones.
Here's one user named Volodemere.
Quote, I had a feeling that he was a white man.
jordan holmes
Is that like a portmanteau between Voldemort and Vladimir?
dan friesen
It's possible, but no, there's too many whys in it.
Oh, okay.
It's probably some weird Norse thing.
jordan holmes
He who must not be...
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
I had a feeling he was a white man and you could be sure that the hostile aliens who really control the country are going to use this against us.
So that's one of them.
That's one quote.
Half-cocked attacks on the part of an angry white man is a dream come true for any Jewish or darky gun grabber, an agent of genocide against whites.
The putrid smell of Zionist or Mexican false flag against whites and the U.S. Constitution hangs heavy in the air here.
A guy named Father Odin chimed in.
jordan holmes
You know what that quote implies, though?
That good attacks were done by us.
Like, you know they're half-cocked because they were attributed to a white man.
dan friesen
I think that's true.
jordan holmes
You know they're good.
dan friesen
I see what you're hanging on to there.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying.
Rhetorically, that's a bad argument.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
That just suggests that...
dan friesen
I think you're holding on to the wrong piece of it.
All right.
jordan holmes
Oh, because I don't want to engage with him saying darky?
dan friesen
It's not good.
So this other guy said, quote, once the media picks up on this story, we will once again hear nonstop about how all whites are racist, anti-government, violent threats to America.
jordan holmes
H-W-H-I-T-E.
dan friesen
The overwhelming sense on a lot of their posts are that this is just a very convenient way.
To demonize people who don't like immigration.
jordan holmes
So convenient.
dan friesen
So convenient.
jordan holmes
It's like they can't find any other examples.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's like, come on, guys.
Put together a list.
Maybe put together a statistic of all of these crimes that have been committed and develop some sort of pattern.
Come on.
You guys can't do that.
These are false flags.
Okay, so when you do do that, I get it.
But they're all false flags.
unidentified
Duh.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, you know, that's once again not the wildest coincidence we've ever seen.
Certainly seems to be something we see on a fairly regular basis that Alex Jones' rhetoric matches up with literal Nazis.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
White supremacists.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Who hide.
On their site, I don't know.
unidentified
Huh.
dan friesen
We have one more clip left, and this one will give you whiplash.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
alex jones
They're the enemy.
And that very enemy is pushing all this multiculturalism and infighting and rioting and all the rest of it because they want to wreck the society to have the feds come in as the saviors.
We're getting some of your calls back up on the screen there.
I'll go to you in a moment.
I didn't want to just run a Black Friday or Cyber Monday special.
I wanted to run the mother of all specials across the board.
High quality colloidal silver that's creating antibiotic history.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Alright.
unidentified
No.
No.
jordan holmes
That was...
dan friesen
We've been in 2009 too long, man.
We haven't heard some good ad pivots.
jordan holmes
That was an ad pivot.
dan friesen
We are back.
jordan holmes
That was good shit.
dan friesen
The enemy is multiculturalism.
jordan holmes
2009 Alex had nothing.
dan friesen
Nothing.
jordan holmes
Damn, was that a good ad pivot.
dan friesen
The enemy is multiculturalism.
jordan holmes
Also, the enemy is Black Friday, which is why I didn't just want to run a Black Friday special.
dan friesen
Nah.
jordan holmes
Nah, no, no.
I'm not about that mindless shit.
This is a quality consumer special.
dan friesen
You almost accidentally said equality there.
Of course not.
jordan holmes
You know what's weird?
He actually just bumped up the MSRP and it's the same fucking special that you've had the entire time.
dan friesen
Oh, also, it was brought to my attention, and this is interesting, fortifiedsupply.com doesn't exist anymore.
Alex Jones' weird fake website that he was using and did not file the correct paperwork in order to run as a subsidiary that we called him out on.
Now, there's a new website that if you go to fortifiedsupply.com, it links to and forwards through to infowarsdefense.com, which I have not yet actually figured out if that's a legal name for him to do business under, but I suspect it's also not.
jordan holmes
The one time we actually discover a crime nobody pays attention and he just gets away with it.
That's disappointing.
dan friesen
Yep.
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
I forgot whenever we discovered a crime and everybody was just like, eh, we prefer talking about when Anthony Bourdain does.
dan friesen
Isn't it funny when Alex says something stupid?
It is.
He also commits crimes.
Yeah.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Anyway.
dan friesen
This was a sad night for Austin and, you know, it could have been a lot worse and thankfully no one really got hurt except for this McWilliams guy.
Right.
jordan holmes
And the pride of Mexico.
dan friesen
Big shout-out to Austin, Texas.
We will be there on Friday.
Very excited to go down and see the Mexican consulate.
Check out the remodel.
jordan holmes
Remember the consulate, actually, is our rally cry.
For all the policy wonks out there, remember the consulate.
dan friesen
I will play the part of Colonel Travis, and I will hold down the fort at the Mexican consulate.
So yeah, we'll be there.
jordan holmes
You know what's crazy?
I actually do have a group of...
They were former Civil War guys, but now they're McWilliams reenactors.
We go down there once a year.
We reenact the whole thing.
dan friesen
You gotta try and shoot a horse.
Yeah, it's rough.
jordan holmes
It's rough.
It's a weird day for everybody.
dan friesen
So it will not be a weird day.
It's Friday when we're there.
jordan holmes
It'll be a great time.
dan friesen
We'll have a good time.
Fun show.
jordan holmes
Friday!
Doors at 9, 10pm, Beerland.
We've heard this a million times before.
I don't know.
We're bad at marketing.
dan friesen
The show is going to be, like, legitimately...
I've had a roadblock in terms of doing episodes this week because I'm so excited to talk about the episode that I've got for Friday.
jordan holmes
I'm so terrified and nervous.
dan friesen
It's going to be the best.
jordan holmes
It's going to be incredible.
dan friesen
So we'll see you all there.
If you can't make it...
We still love you and appreciate it.
Our website is knowledgefight.com.
You can find all sorts of information and past episodes and write-ups and stuff like that there.
jordan holmes
Especially stuff about Fortified Supply.
dan friesen
Yeah, the non-existent website now.
jordan holmes
You can also follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fright.
dan friesen
Yes, and we are on Facebook.
jordan holmes
That's where we are.
You can go to iTunes.
You can leave a review.
dan friesen
Please do.
Also, yep, that's about it.
jordan holmes
That's pretty much it.
That's all we got.
Even though I was not heard last time, it is still your turn tonight.
unidentified
All right.
you Thank you.
dan friesen
There's no one else on this episode.
jordan holmes
No, it's just Alex McWilliams and a caller that you refused to play.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
All right, you're going to have to take from the real world, Dan.
dan friesen
The Ukraine in 1935.
jordan holmes
Wait, I thought they were the good guys.
unidentified
I don't know!
dan friesen
It was just the first thing I saw when I looked at my screen.
jordan holmes
What's a bad revolution?
dan friesen
What's a bad revolution?
Dance, dance.
Go fuck yourself, dance, dance revolution.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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