Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on the February 2nd and 3rd episodes of the Alex Jones Show. A lot of it has to do with Alex revealing his anti-government positions, but the gents also get to meet a weirdo/liar with the best fake name ever: Colonel Donn de Grand Pre.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Dan, if you had never heard this podcast. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| But had instead just read... | ||
| A ten-page long review about Kanye's new EP that never speaks about the music at all. | ||
| At all. | ||
| The review of Kanye's album is just about our podcast? | ||
| Just about our podcast. | ||
| If you were a superfluous, overwordy Pitchfork reviewer who maybe has never actually heard music before. | ||
| Jordan Holmes doesn't care about black people. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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There you go. | |
| That's the Kanye West review. | ||
| I'd say that the review would be, I know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| See, now that's a perfect music review right there. | ||
| 7.3. | ||
| Sounds good. | ||
| Yeah, I'll take it. | ||
| Pitchfork reviewed our podcast for a 7.3. | ||
| Hey, it's not best new music level, but it's still pretty good. | ||
| No, it's very serviceable. | ||
| I bet we'll get best reissue about 30 years from now when everybody reevaluates everything. | ||
| Speaking of reissues. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Today, we are back in the past. | ||
| We're going over 2009. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| But I do want to say this really quick before we jump into business. | ||
| Are you going to start talking about Redondo again? | ||
| He was on again. | ||
| Rotondo. | ||
| Rotondo is the beach in California. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah, Mike Rotondo. | ||
| He was on again, and people were posting in the Facebook group about him being on again. | ||
| And I think it's time for us to wave goodbye to covering this bullshit any further. | ||
| I was done halfway through our second episode. | ||
| I watched it. | ||
| I watched his third appearance. | ||
| And he is there with a guy who has mysteriously come out of the woodwork and found out that he is a distant cousin of Mike's. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| Sure! | ||
| This guy is also an InforWars listener. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| And has decided to let Mike live with him. | ||
| And he really wants to be an InfoWars reporter. | ||
| The distant cousin? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay, so they're going to tag team it. | ||
| They're going to do remote pieces. | ||
| There's a bit of a negotiation about that, because Mike doesn't want to be an InfoWars reporter. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| And Alex does, and the guy, the cousin, Tony, keeps being like, well, I would like to do it. | ||
| And Alex is really clearly like, I want Mike because he's... | ||
| Sort of famous. | ||
| I want to do something with him. | ||
| You're not as good to me. | ||
| You're a distant cousin. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| What are you fucking talking about? | ||
| I'm a distant... | ||
| I'm your distant cousin Tony is the thing that somebody says before they rob you. | ||
| Tony! | ||
| Hey, I'm Tony! | ||
| You don't remember me? | ||
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I'll be your mother's grandmothers on my mother's side. | |
| They were Skyping in from Tony's sister's child's bedroom, too. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Now, that's great. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| That's good stuff. | ||
| That's good stuff. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| If you were writing a parody of this, you would just write this. | ||
| I would write that. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, you would just write that down. | ||
| Well, that's the third act. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| The other thing, too, is that Alex sets up the interview by saying, like, well, Mike, you know, I paid you $3,000 to come down here. | ||
| Still hilarious. | ||
| And you now see the millions of dollars of free press that I've gotten out of this. | ||
| You understand how capitalism works now. | ||
| And I'm like, Alex, you are straight up on air saying to this guy's face. | ||
| I exploited you, but I paid you a little bit. | ||
| I used you as a prop. | ||
| Do you understand how publicity stunts work? | ||
| Do you understand how I am embodying the worst impulses of late capitalism and how I myself need to be taken down? | ||
| Because I have taken advantage of you. | ||
| Boy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Boy. | |
| Do you understand how I don't give a fuck about whether or not you ever see your kid again? | ||
| I don't give a shit if you're homeless. | ||
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I made so much free press out of this. | |
| And think about how much more free press I can get if you turn your goddamn life around and get an haircut. | ||
| Mike. | ||
| Mike. | ||
| I'm a sociopath. | ||
| Basically. | ||
| That might as well have been what he said. | ||
| So we're not going to cover that, and I don't think we'll cover anything else that happens vis-a-vis Mike Rotondo unless there's a major break in the story. | ||
| Man, if he becomes the new Rainbow Snatch, I'm in. | ||
| Because that's a character. | ||
| This is just a dude. | ||
| The other thing I want to say is that I hear... | ||
| People's responses and my immediate reaction whenever someone... | ||
| You say that I take criticism too personally and I say I just reflect upon things that people say and I process them. | ||
| I try to be... | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think there is a fair criticism that was made of our last episode. | ||
| And I don't think we did anything wrong, but I do think that we weren't clear enough about the different pieces of the story that we were talking about. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Wherein we kind of were coming from a perspective of we believe that Mike is on the spectrum. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's on the autism spectrum. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And we also think he's dangerous and mentally ill. | ||
| Not simultaneously. | ||
| Not connected. | ||
| Those things are unrelated to each other. | ||
| And I think we did a shitty job of being clear in our language about that and made it seem like they were connected. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I apologize for that perception. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think that's fair. | ||
| And I would hope the previous 700 episodes, or however many we've done, should give you some sense of where we're at. | ||
| No, it actually turns out we're the only pro, like the most progressive, most equal rights-based podcast, but you still gotta exclude somebody, and it turns out... | ||
| All Asperger's people gotta go. | ||
| It turns out it's a weird thing we do, but what are you gonna do? | ||
| One of the other reasons I think, because I've been reflecting on this a little bit, not taking it personally and not beating myself up about it, but I wanted to sort of... | ||
| I don't believe either of those two things. | ||
| I've been having a great week. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Taking a lot of walks. | ||
| I have. | ||
| Looking off into the middle distance in the rain? | ||
| I've been walking. | ||
| I've been getting up in the morning and taking walks. | ||
| There's a short distance between reflect and dwell, Dan. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| I've been taking these walks the other day. | ||
| The other day I was taking a walk, right? | ||
| Walk down the street. | ||
| Yep, walking right down the street. | ||
| 6.30 in the morning, something like that. | ||
| Just early morning. | ||
| Wrong hour. | ||
| Early morning walk. | ||
| Having a great time with it. | ||
| No, thank you. | ||
| Right, walking down the street, minding my own business. | ||
| What do I see out of the side of my eye? | ||
| I see a moped with a sidecar. | ||
| How does that not set your day off in the right direction? | ||
| That is awesome! | ||
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A moped with a sidecar, not five blocks from my house. | |
| All right, miracles do happen. | ||
| Then I heard a squirrel hit the ground from a tree. | ||
| It was terrifying. | ||
| It sounded like a textbook being dropped. | ||
| Did it fall? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Painfully? | ||
| It walked away fine, but it gave me a look that seemed to imply it wasn't happening. | ||
| It was embarrassed. | ||
| Yeah, a little bit. | ||
| It was that moment where you trip going up the stairs and you're like, oh! | ||
| And then you see and there's one guy and you're like, you and me die with this secret. | ||
| You and me fucking die. | ||
| Throat cutting gesture. | ||
| You never talk about this. | ||
| The squirrel gave me that look. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| So I've been taking a lot of walks and there's some reflection involved. | ||
| And I was thinking about it. | ||
| So anyway, that's all to say, hey, sorry we weren't more precise in our language. | ||
| We'll try to be better in the future. | ||
| You know, it's just one of those things. | ||
| Sometimes you just don't realize that there are people listening. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Because why would they? | ||
| It's our default position. | ||
| That's the best point. | ||
| It's kind of like, eh, it's shocking that anybody listens and anyone cares. | ||
| But we do appreciate it, as we appreciate our new donors. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| That was the transition I was waiting for, Dan. | ||
| I'd like to give a shout-out to a new donor who's joined up. | ||
| Thank you so much, Dylan. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you very much, Dylan. | ||
| I'm not doing it. | ||
| There's no Highlander named Dylan? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Look, the first name that came to mind was not the one that I want to say. | ||
| Okay, but here's a name I want to say. | ||
| I'd like to give a shout out to someone who has bumped things up and become themselves a raptor princess. | ||
| What? | ||
| I'd like to thank you so much, Scott. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| I know how to read. | ||
| I am out of control. | ||
| I've never really seen a lot of white racism in my life. | ||
| I really haven't. | ||
| I bet you money there are few living black people that have been abused by white people as much as I have been abused by black people. | ||
| Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, both those guys were complete badasses. | ||
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Complete stunts. | |
| Why would you say that? | ||
| Welcome to McDonald's. | ||
| May I help you? | ||
| I'm Bernie Sanders. | ||
| So thank you so much, Scott. | ||
| Man, you know what's crazy about that drop? | ||
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What's up? | |
| It has actually gotten progressively darker as we go along. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It starts out real fun and right. | ||
| Ah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. | ||
| And then racism. | ||
| Real hard racism and an expressing of admiration for Hitler. | ||
| At least like a doff of the cap to Hitler. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And we know that he at least is consistent because does not mention Mao. | ||
| He hates the chai comms. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Hates the chai comms. | ||
| But thank you so much, Scott. | ||
| Scott's been around a long time. | ||
| Old time listener. | ||
| We appreciate it. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| There have been a couple people who have jumped on board since we put out the word that I will be breaking down none dare call a conspiracy if we have 15 new donors by the end of June. | ||
| I'm having a great time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Taking those walks. | ||
| I've written about 25 pages, about the first 10 pages of the book. | ||
| Jesus Christ, Dan. | ||
| It's going to be a disaster. | ||
| How long is this book? | ||
| I don't know, but I'm dunking on this guy. | ||
| It's like, I have written so much and it started with a really clinical tone where I'm like, this isn't true, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And now it's just like, look at this asshole. | ||
| It's just become like, I am now pissed off at him. | ||
| So you've graduated to doing the thing where somebody actually dunks on a dude and then stands over him and flexes on top of him. | ||
| That's what you're doing now. | ||
| You're for real dunking on him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's very fun. | ||
| You are posterizing the none dare call it a conspiracy. | ||
| Yes, Gary Allen's getting posterized. | ||
| And if you would like to support that or help that come to pass, you can go to our website, knowledgefight.com, click support the show, and that will be coming out. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| If anybody... | ||
| If we get to 15 by June 1st, I'm sorry, the end of June, then it'll start July 1st. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| And if not, then I guess whenever we get to 15, I guess. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Very loose rules. | ||
| Anyway, enough of this bullshit. | ||
| Let's get down to business. | ||
| Today, Jordan, we're going over... | ||
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To defeat the Huns. | |
| Did they send me daughters when I asked for sons? | ||
| All right, I think I'm going to let it go. | ||
| Yeah, I could do the whole thing. | ||
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Keep going, baby. | |
| You're the saddest bunch I've ever met. | ||
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And you can bet before we're through. | |
| Somehow I'll make a man out of you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we're going over February 2nd and 3rd today. | ||
| Boy, I wanted to try and get three days crammed in, but it just wasn't going to happen, and there's a natural distinction. | ||
| Well, next week we start back at the regular schedule again, so we're fucking right on it. | ||
| 2009 stuff, we're about to hit some pay dirt. | ||
| Some of the unified field theory of Alex Jones is going to come into much sharper focus really soon. | ||
| Because if we recall, February 27th... | ||
| You just pointed to the board, which I loved. | ||
| February 27th is when the first Tea Party rallies are. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The first major ones. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so what we're seeing right now is the building towards that. | ||
| Whether or not Alex has any awareness of the forces behind the scenes or not. | ||
| The amount of coke money he's about to get. | ||
| We will find out. | ||
| But first, before we get into today's episode, a couple of Out of Context drops. | ||
| I'm just average intelligence. | ||
| Yep, I agree. | ||
| Maybe it's generous. | ||
| I would say below. | ||
| But then he steps it up a little. | ||
| I'm brain damaged. | ||
| Yep, yep, yep. | ||
| You're stuck under that house. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I have chemical lobotomy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| All right. | ||
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All right. | |
| Our first moment of silence. | ||
| That broke it. | ||
| I thought there was another drop coming. | ||
| No, just the three. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Why did you turn and look at me then? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I thought you'd have a response. | ||
| I did. | ||
| It was. | ||
| So, Jordan, last we discussed, I believe we left off on January 29th, if I recall correctly. | ||
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Let me confirm that. | |
| Last time on Knowledge Fight. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Past 2009. | ||
| We had the 29th of January is where we left off last time. | ||
| And on the 29th, we had a show. | ||
| I said 29th again. | ||
| On the 30th, a guy named Bob Dasey. | ||
| He's another Austin weirdo. | ||
| Related to Brendan Dassey? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I think unrelated. | ||
| Although he does speak with a gentleman's twang. | ||
| A country twang to his voice. | ||
| He fills in, so I didn't listen to it. | ||
| So then February 1st is a Sunday, and I listened to it, and Alex is just in repeats. | ||
| He just replays his interview with David Icke. | ||
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Great. | |
| And I'm like, what's going on here? | ||
| This is super weird. | ||
| And then we get to February 2nd, and Alex explains where he was. | ||
| My way was paid, so I went to the Ultimate Fighting Championship. | ||
| Joe Rogan. | ||
| I figured it would be good to network with folks and see how many of the Hollywood folks I didn't know were aware of the work we're doing. | ||
| And we ran into quite a few prominent people that are certainly aware of the New World Order. | ||
| That was interesting. | ||
| If I have time today, I'll get into some of what happened there. | ||
| And just the soullessness of Las Vegas. | ||
| I haven't been in that place in 10 years. | ||
| He doesn't end up getting into the soullessness of Las Vegas? | ||
| No, he doesn't. | ||
| But, big news. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Big news. | ||
| I flew in from Las Vegas last night. | ||
| Boy, my arm's tired. | ||
| I hate you. | ||
| Later in the week, if not today, I'll... | ||
| Minus one. | ||
| I walked into the MGM Grand, and it was like everybody had their souls sucked out of them. | ||
| People that were actually there for the casino. | ||
| And then the next day, all the... | ||
| UFC champions showed up. | ||
| They were a different crowd. | ||
| They were all in shape and crazed looks in their eyes. | ||
| But certainly it was Babylon. | ||
| It was interesting, but I don't think I'll be going back. | ||
| I have too much important work to do here. | ||
| But I met Eddie Bravo, who's a huge fan of the show. | ||
| What a nice guy. | ||
| The jiu-jitsu guru of the 10th planet jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| That was interesting. | ||
| He even laughs. | ||
| That was interesting. | ||
| That was a real laugh, too. | ||
| So, put it in the books. | ||
| That was when we began our Eddie Bravo romance. | ||
| February 2nd, 2009. | ||
| The day that Alex Jones admits he's met Eddie Bravo. | ||
| That weekend. | ||
| So, at that UFC event, whatever that weekend was. | ||
| Alex Jones and Eddie Bravo's worlds intersected, and nothing would ever be the same again. | ||
| Oh, it's weird how Alex doesn't talk about how the UFC fighters all have to have day jobs because they don't get paid enough for these fights, and they also don't have insurance, even though that fucking asshole who runs the UFC thing is like a billionaire or whatever fucking shit like that. | ||
| It's all of that shit. | ||
| It's all of that gig-working bullshit. | ||
| There's that lawsuit going on right now. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Yeah, there's a lawsuit about the classification of USC fighters as employees. | ||
| I can't remember the name of the lady, the woman fighter who's bringing the suit. | ||
| I literally just read an article about it. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| There's an article about the implications that pro wrestling will have if the suit is successful. | ||
| Yeah, if they win that one, pro wrestling is going to get health insurance for the first time. | ||
| It's going to be a lot of dominoes falling over. | ||
| The exploitation of these workers is unbelievable. | ||
| Especially for their short careers and the damage that's done to them, and you're not even going to take care of them. | ||
| You make millions of dollars off them for one night, and then they die two years later. | ||
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Like, fuck you. | |
| Most people seem to have little sympathy about it because of the high amount they make. | ||
| For the work that they do, not considering that the training is work too. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And in terms of the WWE, you have to pay for your own travel. | ||
| And you have to have somebody who trains with you. | ||
| You have to have somebody who handles your stuff. | ||
| You're running a small business. | ||
| You need a body man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You need a Farnsworth Bentley of your own. | ||
| So, anyway, this is all to say that you guys better, I mean, you gotta be employees. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You gotta unionize. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| We all gotta unionize. | ||
| One of these days. | ||
| National union. | ||
| So, like I said, the Tea Party is starting to kick into gear. | ||
| And, you know, as this time goes on, we will see the effects of that. | ||
| But here's where Alex's head is at, which I think might be related. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| We're down here in Austin, Texas, and the main mothership is up in Minneapolis, Minnesota. | ||
| But we are growing the Infowars Command Center and have some big announcements coming up in the next week, week and a half. | ||
| I'm just going to leave it at that. | ||
| Big announcements coming up. | ||
| Big revolutionary developments with this radio show and more. | ||
| So stay tuned for that in the next week, week and a half. | ||
| I might even announce it the next few days, but I'm nailing down a few other things before we do that. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Huh. | ||
| Revolutionary changes are afoot at InfoWars and Alex Jones LLC right around the time that there is a giant Coke cash influx into organizations like Glenn Beck, organizations like Sean Hannity. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Yeah, it's curious. | ||
| It's interesting timing. | ||
| It's interesting timing. | ||
| We just had a huge opportunity roll along and something's going to happen in the next couple of weeks or whatever. | ||
| I have to nail a few things down still. | ||
| Got to negotiate my contract for hating Obama. | ||
| Alex is talking a bunch on this episode about how he's going to hire more people and about how we're going to push through and expand even though the economy is getting worse. | ||
| That kind of hubris is pretty amazing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It indicates to me some sort of an awareness. | ||
| Now, would you match that? | ||
| With the fact that he's been saying that a money bomb is coming up, you start to get a sense, and we've seen this a couple times throughout his history, these money bombs happened at convenient and weird points. | ||
| In 2015, it happened a couple months before he joined Team Trump. | ||
| And it happened maybe a couple weeks after Ted Anderson, who is what he was talking about, the headquarters in Minnesota. | ||
| Ted Anderson lost his license to sell gold bouillon. | ||
| Midas Resources completely collapsed. | ||
| A couple weeks later, Alex Jones does a money bomb. | ||
| Right now, in 2009, he's pimping a money bomb right around the beginning of the tea party. | ||
| It's very interesting. | ||
| These timing things are super bizarre. | ||
| And it's crazy that he bought three car washes, which are conspicuously cash-only businesses at the same time. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| Bookkeeping is hard to do, Dan. | ||
| I understand that we can't make a case in court off this. | ||
| No. | ||
| But I think as time goes on and some of these dates get more nailed down, the circumstantial case is going to be damning. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It already is in my head. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| When we started this podcast, I had a lot of questions about Alex Jones. | ||
| They're all getting answered pretty harsh. | ||
| I have answers for most questions that I used to have about him. | ||
| I'm pretty clear that he's full of shit. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Pretty clear that he's been sold out for years. | ||
| Write that down. | ||
| Anyway, someone I do have questions about, though. | ||
| Eddie Bravo? | ||
| Nah, I'm pretty clear on him, too. | ||
| He's just dumb. | ||
| Flat Earther? | ||
| Sweet, but dumb. | ||
| Sweet, but dumb. | ||
| This guy used to be the president. | ||
| All right? | ||
| Which guy? | ||
| This guy. | ||
| He had a peanut farm. | ||
| You know that guy? | ||
| Jimmy Carter. | ||
| That's the one. | ||
| Yeah, the guy who had to give up his peanut farm because he was worried about impropriety and perhaps people would view it as a way for him to be corrupt. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he thought that the office of the presidency must be above the appearance, even the appearance of corruption, Dan, above it. | ||
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Right. | |
| Let alone actually being fucking corrupt. | ||
| Now, that... | ||
| What kind of president would ever ruin the office of the presidency by being the most corrupt person in the whole world? | ||
| See, now that sort of thing would lead me to believe that Jimmy Carter, reasonable ass cat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But this clip makes me think otherwise. | ||
| By the way, Jimmy Carter came out and said that 9-11 should be investigated as a cover-up and that we don't know exactly what the truth is that happened with that. | ||
| So that's good for Jimmy Carter. | ||
| That story is up on PrisonPlanet.com right now as well. | ||
| Do you believe this? | ||
| At this point in time, isn't he in another country building homes for people? | ||
| He's not. | ||
| He's on a book tour. | ||
| He's on a book tour. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I know this because what Alex is basing this off of... | ||
| Is a guy from We Are Change, which is an organization that we're going to have to talk about a lot in the near future, but not today. | ||
| They are a bunch of weirdos that are vaguely related to Ron Paul, vaguely related to 9-11 Truth, vaguely related to Alex Jones. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| They're a huge mess. | ||
| They're a little bit in every Venn diagram. | ||
| Yes, of this weird world that's forming in 2009. | ||
| And has formed. | ||
| And so one of the guys from We Are Change went out and cornered, not cornered, he just got a book signed at a Costco. | ||
| sure when jimmy carter was on his book tour signing books at a costco here's the audio Do you care if I ask you a real quick question? | ||
|
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I'm sorry? | |
| A real quick question, if you don't mind? | ||
|
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I was just wondering if you'd support the victims' family members that want an investigation in 9-11? | |
| Considering now we're... | ||
| Another investigation? | ||
| Yeah, end of 9-11. | ||
| Would you support it? | ||
|
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Yeah, I don't have anything to do with it, but I certainly would be nice, folks. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| That was it? | ||
| That's damning evidence. | ||
| That is damning evidence. | ||
| A man saying yes to get you to go away? | ||
| That's clearly a 9-11 truther right there. | ||
|
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A former president at a Costco being polite to someone who wants his book signed. | |
| He said he wants it investigated as a cover-up. | ||
| Jimmy Carter. | ||
| His response was... | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| I don't have anything to do with that. | ||
| It's not me, but I think it'd be nice, I guess, if they want it and they're victims, then I suppose. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Now, here's the only thing about that, is given all the shit that went down during Jimmy Carter's presidency, I could totally see him being a little bit on the side of, like, we had another Bush in there, so who knows? | ||
| He might have done it. | ||
| I know Dick Cheney. | ||
| Personally, that dude would bomb anything. | ||
| But Kat's not going to say that at Costco. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I mean, well, unless he's got a membership. | ||
| Then he's contractually obligated. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You can't lie. | ||
| It's in the rules. | ||
| Terms and conditions may apply. | ||
| The Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. | ||
| So, at this point, Alex takes a pivot, and he doesn't have much going on on the show on the second. | ||
| He has one guest. | ||
| His name is Dan Hamburg. | ||
| He's a member of the state congress. | ||
| He was in Congress for like a really short period of time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A representative. | ||
| He was like a state representative. | ||
| That's the word I was looking for. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| All right. | ||
| In the legislature. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He was in for like one term and then he left and got involved with the Green Party and also a guru. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Sort of a swami. | ||
| So I'm guessing that ignominy could be applied to the way that he left. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know all the details. | ||
| I didn't look into it much past the fact that he started hanging out with a swami. | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| Have you ever read the autobiography of a yogi? | ||
| No. | ||
| Those dudes can float. | ||
| Those dudes can float. | ||
| Whenever I hear somebody who's involved in politics who then gets involved with a charismatic spiritual leader, I'm like... | ||
| Nah. | ||
|
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Pass. | |
| Speaking of which, I want to give a preemptive go-fuck-yourself to this new podcast. | ||
| This is our first go-fuck-yourself. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Preemptive go-fuck-yourself. | ||
| This is to a new podcast that's out on the Howl app from Earwolf. | ||
| It's called The Gateway, and it's about Teal Scott, or I'm sorry, Teal Swan. | ||
| Do you know who she is? | ||
|
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No. | |
| She puts out YouTube videos where she stares into the camera and speaks in a lilting voice using neuro-linguistic programming type little tricks to tell you about your past lives and your soul and stuff like that. | ||
| All right. | ||
| She's been around forever. | ||
| I used to watch videos of her back when I was fucking stupid and smoking weed all the time. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Mostly because she's incredibly gorgeous. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And she sometimes would talk about Atlantis and it's kind of interesting. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| Now, here's why I say fuck you to this show. | ||
| I know already that this podcast is just going to be another one in the long line of these fucking serial knockoff podcasts that end up covering a topic that's kind of interesting, and then in the last episode it'll be like, well, I don't know! | ||
| Like, there was that one about Franklin, that cult leader guy, at the end who equivocated in the last episode. | ||
| There was the one about Heaven's Gate, and the guy in the last fucking episode was like... | ||
| Maybe they were all happy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Go fuck yourself! | ||
| You did an entire series about how Marshall Applewhite was a fucking crazy dude, and he led to these people's deaths, and then in the last episode, you're like, you know what? | ||
| They might have felt like they belonged. | ||
| Maybe there's Heaven's Gate in all of us. | ||
| Oh, fuck out! | ||
| Fuck, come on! | ||
| So I know at the end of this one already, they're gonna be like, yeah, but maybe Teal Swan helps her, the people who follow her. | ||
|
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Like, no, she's a con woman! | |
| All of these people are con people! | ||
| All these cult leaders. | ||
| Maybe she's just like an MSR one. | ||
| Is she... | ||
| ASMR? | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| ASMR. | ||
| Was I talking about meningitis? | ||
| I don't know what MSR. | ||
|
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Yeah, she could just be talking real soft and people just like to hear that. | |
| No, there's cult aspects to it. | ||
| If you watch some of her videos, there are absolutely cult aspects to it. | ||
| So she's a con woman. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But at the same time, like, I get the impulse to make those episodes, like, those shows like that. | ||
| Like, have at the end, like... | ||
| Oh, maybe people got something out of it, like that sort of thing. | ||
| But can you imagine after we're done with this podcast? | ||
| Can you put it up on the board that that is exactly what we're going to say at the end of this podcast? | ||
| Because they're going to do like 20 episodes and then they're going to end it. | ||
| And we're going to do roughly all the episodes up until the point where climate change destroys this entire country. | ||
| And then we'll be like, but you know what? | ||
| Alex Jones did make a lot of Info Warriors very happy. | ||
| He made them feel secure in their fear. | ||
| And maybe that's all we really... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| It's just like when you watch a horror movie. | ||
| Sometimes you like to be scared, Dan. | ||
| It's like, you son of a bitch. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| How dare you do a podcast where you investigate some subject and the entire thing is about how, like, here's the evidence that they're fucking with people. | ||
| And then at the end, just, like, double back to be like, we're not saying anything. | ||
| I hate it. | ||
| Take a position. | ||
| Anyway, I will still listen to it. | ||
| Of course you will. | ||
| But just because I want to be right. | ||
| You want to get to the end so you can be like, ha ha, I told you so! | ||
| Exactly. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| So anyway. | ||
| We're going to get a great write-up at the end of that podcast. | ||
| Considering that that podcast is put out by Gizmodo. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
|
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Oh, no. | |
| We're not getting anywhere. | ||
| It's put out by Gizmodo? | ||
| God damn it, guys. | ||
|
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Come on. | |
| This next clip, Alex takes a call from a listener who's very clearly a sovereign citizen. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You can tell by his language, and this sovereign citizen has a weird problem that he wants to talk to Alex about at the end of this. | ||
| It's about his free speech. | ||
| Oh, I was hoping for prostate. | ||
| Roy in Michigan, you're on the air. | ||
|
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Yeah, Alex. | |
| You know, every time that they come against my neighbor's freedom of speech or come against his right to travel without a license, every time that they come against any of the constitutional rights, it's done through the courts. | ||
| And what needs to be done is these courts need to have a number of the neighborhood get together around that individual and take in the... | ||
| File a waiver of tort against the judge. | ||
| And enough judges get this filed against them, and they will back off. | ||
| Well, you're right that the courts are becoming so corrupt, it's comical if it wasn't so serious. | ||
| And because communities don't stick together, because we've been taught to watch our TV sets, to not go talk to our neighbors. | ||
| People don't sit on their front porches anymore. | ||
| People don't go barbecuing their backyards maybe once a year for the Super Bowl. | ||
| First off, we need to file a waiver of tort, which sure, if enough judges get it, this dude's idea is that if enough judges get these, they're going to be like, Whoa, we better change the law. | ||
| Everyone knows that they're sovereign citizens. | ||
| We can't fuck with them anymore. | ||
| Too many tort waivers. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| A waiver of tort? | ||
| Whenever my neighbor is not allowed to travel without a license. | ||
| How dare they? | ||
| Two DUIs and now he's not allowed to travel without a license? | ||
|
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Awful. | |
| Although rhetorically, I'll say it's an amazing pivot for Alex from we've got to have these waivers of torts against lawyers and being like... | ||
| No one barbecues anymore. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That was good. | ||
| I do not want to talk about that thing. | ||
| But hold on. | ||
| We have not gotten to this guy's problem yet. | ||
| We are just looking at the glowing mind control box and not living while the organized government picks us off one at a time. | ||
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They're trying to pick me off right now for my freedom of speech. | |
| Of course, I'm going to fight this battle by myself, but I shouldn't be fighting it by myself. | ||
| What are they doing to you? | ||
| What's happening? | ||
|
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Well, I have a billboard in my front yard, which is 12 foot high and 61 foot long. | |
| And it lays out the 911. | ||
| It lays out the Waco. | ||
| It lays it all out. | ||
| And it has InfoWars as one of the sources for getting the documentation of what I'm saying. | ||
| Hey, buddy. | ||
| Hey, buddy. | ||
| If I've got to trim my fucking hedge... | ||
| You gotta take that billboard the fuck back. | ||
|
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That is killing property values in the neighborhood. | |
| You asshole! | ||
| His voice too delivering it. | ||
|
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I have a billboard in my front yard. | |
| So lackadaisical. | ||
| There's clearly not a real billboard. | ||
| It's 61 feet. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| 12 feet by 60 feet. | ||
| By what? | ||
| You have a billboard in your front yard, sir. | ||
| Also, I rent. | ||
|
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What the fuck? | |
| I mean, I understand. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I really do get it. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I want to know about the logistics of this billboard. | ||
| I don't think it's a billboard. | ||
| Did he hire people? | ||
| Did he... | ||
| I think when you think billboard, you're not thinking the right thing. | ||
| I think you gotta... | ||
| 12 foot by 60 foot seems billboarding to me. | ||
|
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60... | |
| No, no. | ||
| Wait, wait. | ||
| Did he say 60 foot? | ||
| I feel like he's... | ||
| I may have heard... | ||
| Maybe it's 12 by 6 feet. | ||
| No, he did say 60. I think he said 60. 12 by 6 would be nothing. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| He said billboard. | ||
| 12 by 60 seems billboard. | ||
| 60 feet is so big. | ||
| It's so big. | ||
| It's 10 of me. | ||
| Yeah, that's six basketball hoops. | ||
|
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Let's just think of other things that will eventually lead to 60. It's 20 yards. | |
| Oh, man. | ||
| That's bananas. | ||
| That is one-fifth of a football field! | ||
| That is, if you get a holding penalty, then you have first and 20 to go! | ||
| You get a penalty in the size of this billboard. | ||
| No, you gotta have two penalties to get to the size of the billboard. | ||
| So I feel his pain in terms of free speech. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| This is a no-empathy situation for me. | ||
| In a vacuum? | ||
| I get it. | ||
| You should be able to put up a billboard if you fucking want to. | ||
|
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No! | |
| You should not! | ||
| But the reason you can't is because of neighborhood associations, because of agreements with your... | ||
| You're fucking over your neighbors. | ||
| Because of the social contract. | ||
| And because if you're living in a place where you can put up a billboard, conceivably the people who can see it... | ||
| Also, we're in a residential neighborhood who own their houses. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You're not going to get too many new people seeing that billboard. | ||
| Seems like it would be not super effective. | ||
| Guys. | ||
| I didn't expect we were going to talk about this billboard this much. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| You have no idea the kind of morning sunlight you are going to get out of these windows. | ||
| Now, your evening sunlight is going to be blocked by a giant fucking billboard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One that says... | ||
| InfoWars on it. | ||
| But your morning sunlight, ugh, the windows. | ||
| Also, good luck reselling your house. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| So, in this next clip, Alex... | ||
| Excuse me, you want me to take down this billboard? | ||
| That's free speech infringement. | ||
| I have a waiver of... | ||
|
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I have a tort. | |
| I have a tort waiver. | ||
| I will take you to court. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| I waved tort! | ||
| I can't take you to court! | ||
| Ugh! | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex talks about how there's a lot of people from the Trilateral Commission involved in Obama's week-old presidency. | ||
| He's already... | ||
| Gotta keep that in mind. | ||
| He's already doing it. | ||
| We're still only a week in... | ||
| About a week and a half. | ||
| This has evolved very quickly for one week. | ||
| They've set them all up on paper. | ||
| American Union is openly operating. | ||
| I was watching Davos, Switzerland, meeting. | ||
| Economic Forum, they were admitting all this. | ||
| But then the public isn't watching that. | ||
| They've been told it doesn't exist. | ||
| The pre-election attention is reminiscent of Brzezinski's... | ||
| It's a big new Brzezinski's? | ||
| Yeah, but real quick right there, he went from talking extemporaneously to reading something without saying what he's quoting, without saying that he's reading something, a source. | ||
| Tutoring of Jimmy Carter prior to Carter's landslide election in 76. For anyone who doubts the commission's continuing influence on Obama... | ||
| Consider that he has already appointed no less than nine members of the commission to top level and key positions in his administration. | ||
| According to official bilateral commission membership list, there are only 78, 87 members from the United States. | ||
| The other 337 members are from other regions. | ||
| Thus, in less than two weeks since his inauguration, Obama's appointments encompass more than 10% of the commission's entire U.S. membership. | ||
| There's a really easy explanation for that. | ||
|
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What's that? | |
| It's a really elite group. | ||
| Very competent people. | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| I think that there are... | ||
| I don't believe in competence anymore. | ||
| There are simpler explanations than one-world cabals. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Is this a mere coincidence, or is it a continuation of dominance over the executive branch since 76? | ||
| You go read the policy reports put out by all these characters, and they're all calling for world currency, world tax, world army, world regulation, gun confiscation, and they come in, and what are they doing? | ||
| For important information, read the Trilateral Commission usurping sovereignty. | ||
| So right there, Alex... | ||
| Where is the Trilateral Commission usurping sovereignty? | ||
| See, he says that. | ||
| The Trilateral Commission usurping sovereignty. | ||
| Right after he's talking about platform papers, if there's policy papers and stuff like that. | ||
| Brzezinski. | ||
| Which is made to make you think he's trying to anchor in your brain policy papers and... | ||
| Trilateral Commission usurping sovereignty. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As if to imply that the Trilateral Commission put out a paper called usurping sovereignty. | ||
|
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Yes! | |
| Where they're like, fuck, we're going to usurp sovereignty. | ||
| Or somebody else wrote a thing about how, revealing how the Trilateral Commission is usurping sovereignty. | ||
| It was a blog post by a guy named Patrick Wood called Trilateral Commission usurping sovereignty. | ||
| Nailed it. | ||
| The sequel to it is what Alex is literally reading off on air. | ||
| He just, he spent, like, he doesn't. | ||
| He does no real analysis of it, and he just reads off verbatim from this blog post that was originally on a website called newswithviews.com. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| We're going to get to that. | ||
| I'm not going to lie. | ||
| I think that's a good.com. | ||
| We're going to get to news with views here in a second. | ||
| Can we get a... | ||
| Is that domain expired? | ||
| No, it's still there. | ||
| It is? | ||
| We're going to talk about it in a second. | ||
| We're going to have to buy it. | ||
| So Patrick Wood is a guy who now runs a website called technocracy.com, I believe, is warning people about the coming technocracy. | ||
| Not as good as news with views. | ||
| He is also one of the main speakers for the Red Pill Expo that I desperately want to go to coming up in Spokane in late June. | ||
| No, don't do it. | ||
| I can't go. | ||
| That's where the cult I was born in. | ||
| Spokane? | ||
| Yeah, Spokane, Washington, right? | ||
| Yep, I'm sure there's some connection. | ||
| That's where they were. | ||
| So he's one of the headline speakers of this expo. | ||
| The other speakers... | ||
| And I'm still just emceeing at Zany's. | ||
| I'm telling you, this is terrible. | ||
|
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It's bullshit. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| The other speakers... | ||
| It's not a meritocracy, Dad. | ||
| The other speakers are G. Edward Griffin. | ||
| Who's the guy who wrote The Beast from Jekyll Island, which is about the creation of the Federal Reserve. | ||
| Right. | ||
| A bunch of nonsense. | ||
| Lord Monkton, one of Alex Jones' buddies. | ||
| He's the man! | ||
| The climate change denier who was paid by ExxonMobil and got thrown out of the UN. | ||
| No, not important. | ||
| Larry Pratt, he's the guy who runs Gun Owners for America, and he is constantly on Alex Jones' show. | ||
| If you don't know, Gun Owners for America is the more extreme version of the NRA. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Jesse Lee Peterson, who's a guy who... | ||
| I recommend no one Google. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| He's a guy who is a preacher. | ||
| Maybe a former preacher. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Don't like it. | ||
| He's also a conservative radio host. | ||
| Really don't like that. | ||
| But he's someone who we will never talk about probably on this show because I worry that he suffers from cognition issues. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| I've listened to a couple of interviews that he's done. | ||
| And he's got some Alzheimer's? | ||
| I don't know if it's Alzheimer's, but there's something that's not firing in his head. | ||
| There's an inability to... | ||
| I don't know how to describe it, but watching him interview... | ||
| I watched an interview he did with David Pakman, the progressive YouTube talk show host. | ||
| And watching the way his brain worked and the responses was terrifying. | ||
| I hated him, but I also was like... | ||
| You should be in a home. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| It was like one of those things. | ||
| I don't know how you dress yourself. | ||
|
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Oh, boy. | |
| That kind of thing. | ||
| I feel like there might be Alzheimer's. | ||
| You don't think it's an act? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's definitely not. | ||
| It's for real genuine. | ||
| It made me terrified. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| It made me... | ||
| Shudder. | ||
| Anyway, he's going to be at the Red Pill Expo. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| Also, Twyla Brace, who we've encountered on the show. | ||
| Hey, it's somebody who's not a straight white dude. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| We've got a lady. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| Who works for a number of Coke-funded organizations. | ||
| Less nice. | ||
| Less nice. | ||
| We've seen her. | ||
| She came up on the show in 2008. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| We ran into her. | ||
| Lavoie Finnecombe's wife, who's the guy who died at the Oregon standoff with the Bundy people. | ||
| He's the guy who got murdered by the police when he was... | ||
| All right. | ||
| Screaming at them, kill me. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| Is she still calling for a sheriff to investigate that? | ||
| Not entirely sure. | ||
| Not entirely? | ||
| But she's speaking at the Red Pill Expo. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| And Cynthia McKinney. | ||
| Also, the event appears to be entirely sponsored by Freedom Force International, which is a group whose website does not appear to have been updated since late 2016. | ||
| Alright, I like it. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| So, I was looking at the news with views, because I'm like, I don't know. | ||
| Because it's a great fucking name. | ||
| Sure, and I don't know the organization. | ||
| I don't know their editorial standards or anything. | ||
| You just know they got news? | ||
| They got views. | ||
| I don't know what Patrick... | ||
| I can sense from Patrick Wood and some of his writings that he's an Alex Jones-y kind of guy. | ||
| But I was like, I don't know if maybe this is a legit blog and it's just something that isn't in my sphere or anything like that. | ||
| Okay, so now we're going to get Patrick Wood's views on the news. | ||
| No, because he doesn't run this. | ||
| It was just published on there. | ||
| There's a bunch of writers. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So one of the articles from the last couple days, headline, British government jails... | ||
| Wait, today. | ||
| It's still, like, the last couple of days in, like, 2018. | ||
| Oh, it's still operating. | ||
|
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It's still operating. | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Ten years past. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's just shitty blogs. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I mean, yeah, it's not hard, but... | ||
| Here's one of the headlines. | ||
| British government jails journalist for exposing Muslim pedophile ring. | ||
| This is a story about Tommy Robinson, and that headline does not at all convey what Tommy got arrested for. | ||
| What did he get arrested for? | ||
| He got arrested for, well, a couple months ago, he got arrested for disturbing the peace, and... | ||
| Precipitating, like agitating and trying to start a riot outside of a courthouse where a Muslim was on trial. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And so he got arrested for that, and then the judge said... | ||
| He got arrested for being a weirdo in the 1700s. | ||
| Agitating white shithead. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And I only bring the white part in because that's part of his agitation. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So he got arrested for that, and then the judge said, I'm not going to send you to jail. | ||
| You're a bad judge! | ||
| But I'm going to give you a sentence. | ||
| And if you get arrested again, you're going to jail for that sentence. | ||
| And so he did it again. | ||
| He got arrested. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| Good! | ||
| Put him in jail! | ||
| His suspended sentence got put on him. | ||
| How long was he in there? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I don't really particularly... | ||
| I have no interest in following Tommy Robinson news. | ||
| I feel like there should be... | ||
| Look, if there's mandatory minimum sentences for crack... | ||
| I feel like there should be mandatory life sentences for these assholes. | ||
| Just like... | ||
| And not even like a jail. | ||
| Not even like a prison that is tough. | ||
| Just like you're over there in this little... | ||
| Like a playground. | ||
| Like you go to a playground and that's where you stay forever. | ||
| A couple points. | ||
| First, it's the UK. | ||
| I don't know how their legal system works. | ||
|
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Playgrounds. | |
| Second of all, you have got to go to your show. | ||
| So we got to get through some of this stuff. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| We've been having too many dalliances. | ||
| I'm as guilty as you are. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Wow, it's just been so long since we've been here. | ||
| I know, it's been a week. | ||
|
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I love talking to my friend. | |
| It's fun! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| So, the other headline that I was attracted to from News With You is... | ||
| Twyla Davis. | ||
| Twyla Brace. | ||
| Okay, whatever. | ||
| But no, I don't know if she writes for them, but this headline was, You would be racist if... | ||
|
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Alright, now that's gold right there. | |
| Not good. | ||
| That's the most click-baity thing I've ever seen. | ||
| Not good, you gotta click on it. | ||
| That is the most... | ||
| So, this is by a guy named Frosty Wooldridge. | ||
| Nope. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Pet name! | ||
| No, refuse. | ||
| Frosty. | ||
| Refuse. | ||
| He stays frosty throughout this, I'll tell you that. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I'm against all of this. | ||
| So it includes such passages as this. | ||
| Quote, in the last 48 hours, the entire cast and crew of ABC's hit comedy Roseanne suffered immediate job displacement for the single tweet by the show's star Roseanne Barr that made the comparison of Valerie Jarrett a Moslem. | ||
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M-O-S-L-E-M. | |
| Yeah, yeah, of course. | ||
| Aid to former Barack Hussein Obama to a character on Planet of the Apes. | ||
| Gotta put the Hussein in there. | ||
| And it doesn't even say former president, it just says former Barack Hussein Obama. | ||
| This is terribly written stuff. | ||
| So then, that's one sentence, and then it starts another sentence, which, as you know, equates to the biggest oxymoron on this planet. | ||
| Muslims prove themselves to be the most racist religious economic political organization in the world. | ||
| Still not an oxymoron. | ||
| When satirists compared former President George W. Bush to a monkey with a chimp that bore very similar resemblance, not a word of racism from the CNN and like-minded media outlets. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| On Facebook, black women give lectures on whites. | ||
| You added that. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| You can read it. | ||
| Frosty. | ||
| I read it too. | ||
| When you said whites, I was like, you nailed it. | ||
| But I've still got to point it out. | ||
| It's somehow on the page. | ||
| It's H-W-H-I-T-E. | ||
| On Facebook, black women give lectures on whites being racist because of the color of their white skin. | ||
| Is white a color? | ||
| It's the absence of color? | ||
| Double ironically. | ||
| No, that's black. | ||
| I always got that confused myself. | ||
| White is the combination of all colors. | ||
| Black is the absence of colors. | ||
| I could have swore it's the opposite. | ||
| It seems like it should be, but it's not. | ||
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It should be the opposite. | |
| Alright, alright. | ||
| Double ironically. | ||
| Black rappers use the... | ||
| Double ironically! | ||
| Black rappers use the N-word in their songs with such a vulgarity as to think they hate themselves, distrust themselves, and totally negate themselves as human beings. | ||
| Never a word from the mainstream media! | ||
| Exclamation point. | ||
| You only get one exclamation point. | ||
| Oh, he uses a bunch. | ||
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Oh, right. | |
| Then he's discounted as a writer. | ||
| You are a racist in America if you don't support Miss Black America, which is racist in itself. | ||
| The same holds true for black entertainment television that features only black actors! | ||
| You would be racist if you don't support the United Negro College Fund, which again supports all black colleges, which again is racist in itself. | ||
| The NAACP represents only black people, which makes it racist. | ||
| More than 50 all-black organizations operate with blacks only. | ||
| Never a word from the mainstream media! | ||
| You would be racist if you don't support the TV sitcom Blackish! | ||
| Now you would be a racist! | ||
| You would be racist if you don't support the sitcom Black-ish, which produces and features only black people. | ||
| Ironically, if whites choose to have Miss White America, the mainstream media would attack. | ||
| Same with all-white National Basketball League, or white-ish, or white entertainment television, or all-white college fund, or all-white colleges. | ||
| In fact, whites could form exactly the white version of every black organization in America, and those whites would become racist. | ||
| Editorial note, that was called the past. | ||
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All of the things he just described. | |
| It's almost as if, look, if you had a sport that wouldn't allow black people in it and was existing for like 70 years, let's say there were nine people on the field. | ||
| One of them throws a ball and the other one tries to hit it. | ||
| Like, no big deal. | ||
| And you wouldn't allow black players to do it and you had an all-black league? | ||
| It was the black league that was racist. | ||
| That's who was really causing it. | ||
| Old Satchel Paige, he was just a racist. | ||
| Totally. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah, it was his fault. | ||
| But like the idea of all-white scholarships, all-white colleges, all-white sports leagues, Miss White America, all that stuff. | ||
| It's like, hey, bro, what are you doing? | ||
| What is this article, really? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| So then, hold on. | ||
| The end of this dismount is breathtaking. | ||
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Okay. | |
| It's so shocking. | ||
| Let's hear it. | ||
| Look at the racism of Muslims in America. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It's horrible, dirty, barbaric, and growing. | ||
| We see Muslims pushing for Sharia law, which presents the most racist organization in the world. | ||
| Muslim conquest in America will dwarf all racism charges to a fraction of our current problems. | ||
| Not a word from mainstream media! | ||
| Exclamation point. | ||
| In the end, races don't naturally get along with one another. | ||
| What? | ||
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Whoa! | |
| Whoa! | ||
| Damn! | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| He just nailed it! | ||
| Frosty! | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Frosty! | ||
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What are you saying? | |
| In the end, America should be for whites and Africa should be for blacks. | ||
| That's fine! | ||
| That is... | ||
| No, that's not even the end. | ||
| That's not the end? | ||
| No. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| In the end, races don't naturally get along with one another. | ||
| People prefer to be among their own. | ||
| I don't see it changing. | ||
| On a personal level, all I can do is respect all races, colors, and ethnic groups. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| Alright, alright, alright. | ||
| Every person does the best he or she can to make it down the road of life. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Frosty? | ||
| You nailed it. | ||
| So, that's crazy and very racist. | ||
| That's the publication. | ||
| That's news with views. | ||
| Those are the kind of views on the news. | ||
| Those are the views on the news, yeah. | ||
| I gotcha. | ||
| I gotcha. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Alex is just reading from that blog. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Great. | ||
| If they'll publish that, it seriously calls into question, like, what else? | ||
| You know, what else are they publishing? | ||
| What are their standards? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Anyway, Alex... | ||
| No, that guy just did a White America for Whites Black. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
| Yeah, that's exactly what he said. | ||
| That's what's underneath it the whole time, and especially the Muslims. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Get them the boat. | ||
| And my biggest issue with him, as a representative of the white race, apparently, figure out what the fucking oxymoron is, figure out what irony is, and then figure out what you're fucking talking about, because you're goddamn stupid. | ||
| Oh, if that was embedded satire, mwah. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's so poorly written. | ||
| Anyway, at this point, Alex Jones gets a caller on the show on this February 2nd episode. | ||
| The caller asks him a troubling question. | ||
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And the third question. | |
| Oh, real quick. | ||
| The first two questions are unimportant. | ||
| The fact that there were two questions is the troubling part. | ||
| They're not important. | ||
| They're like, basically, why would anyone deflate currency? | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
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has to do with the people who are responsible for what we're in. | |
| When considering the history of Bolshevism and the Communist Manifesto, Boom! | ||
| Do you think Zionism is a genuine racist movement? | ||
| And really, that's about all I have. | ||
| Okay, that's three huge questions. | ||
| So he goes on to answer the questions, the first two questions, and he sort of fumbles around a little bit to get to the third question, and here's his answer. | ||
| And on the subject of Zionism, you know, we have guests on here to talk about. | ||
| What Zionism is. | ||
| And Zionism isn't a criticism of Jews themselves. | ||
| Zionism is a political ideology very similar to what Hitler said. | ||
| Or the white supremacists say. | ||
| Or what the black Israelite movement says. | ||
| I mean, every group. | ||
| Japan has a group that says they're the master of race and everybody else is scum. | ||
| And it says that everybody else are basically animals who can be killed and destroyed at will. | ||
| It's a horrible political system, certainly for the Palestinians in and around Israel, and so I am in opposition to that apartheid-type system. | ||
| I think it's very hypocritical that Israel can do things that's way worse than what South Africa did, and it's A-OK with the media, but then what South Africa did was bad. | ||
| No, it's both equally bad. | ||
| Who is this? | ||
| Jordan hosting Infowars? | ||
| Straight up, Alex Jones just called Israel's system an apartheid system. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Something that very clearly, I mean, Yeah, because that's what it is. | ||
| Weird. | ||
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Weird. | |
| So weird. | ||
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Weird. | |
| And they just snipered a medic. | ||
| They just deliberately, deliberately murdered somebody who devoted her life to doing good. | ||
| Guys, Israel is great. | ||
| Um, yeah. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| It's, uh, I mean, we've already encountered this in terms of, like, this being something that's different about him in the past and in the present, but it's important. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| It's good to, like, uh, just remind. | ||
| I've come to a point where I believe earlier in the episode I told you that there are less and less questions about Alex. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Now, a lot of answers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And one of them, one of the... | ||
| Or at least more like a lot of signs pointing directly to Bugs Bunny's rabbit hole. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| For a... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This is what's up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And one of them is here in this next clip. | ||
| This is one of the clips that I would say in 2009 has been a really shocking, like a surprising clue for me that Alex would be this overt about things. | ||
| This was a pretty sizable, like, look here, look here. | ||
| That's why I'm saying we need local currencies. | ||
| Competing with regional currencies, competing with national currencies, competing with international currencies. | ||
| That way elites can't corner the market. | ||
| It's a separation of powers within the entire monetary scheme. | ||
| It is a liberalization of the symbols of credit. | ||
| That's really dumb. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's, like, I understand where that thought comes from in terms of, like, hey, if there was only one currency in the world, if someone could control that currency, they would control all. | ||
| They would control the world, yeah. | ||
| And then if you take that on a smaller level, it's like if there's one currency in our country and someone could control that currency. | ||
| Then they control the country. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You have that sort of mentality, and I understand where that comes from. | ||
| But, boy, we've done this experiment. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Like, we have. | ||
| How did it go? | ||
| It didn't go great. | ||
| It didn't? | ||
| No. | ||
| How did Jackson feel about it, though? | ||
| I don't remember exactly how he felt about it. | ||
| He's a big fan. | ||
| But we had, like... | ||
| We had competing... | ||
| I was talking about Michael Jackson. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He was bad. | ||
| That guy. | ||
| He was a thriller. | ||
| The thing is, in the early 1900s, we had... | ||
| In the late 1800s, we had states that just had their own currencies and stuff. | ||
| There was no rules against that. | ||
| Banks would put out their own currency. | ||
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Right. | |
| We had tons and tons of currencies. | ||
| And one of the issues that you run into that with is interstate acceptance of other currencies. | ||
| Here's how stupid this is. | ||
| If you have Illinois bucks, do they work in Missouri? | ||
| Sometimes yes, sometimes no. | ||
| This is the concept of Disney bucks. | ||
| Competing with Six Flags bucks. | ||
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Yes. | |
| It's stupid. | ||
| Or Disney bucks competing with dollars. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's fucking stupid. | ||
| Well, because Disney bucks and dollars both work in Disney, but Disney bucks don't work outside of Disney. | ||
| Unless we allow for the free and fair competition between currencies that we've all desired. | ||
| Right, and the only way for all of that to really ever happen in any meaningful way... | ||
| First of all, you need coordination between all of these people who put out these various currencies, and they all need to be tied to a commodity or something. | ||
| Gold standard? | ||
| Well, basically, it wouldn't have to be gold. | ||
| It could be silver or copper or whatever. | ||
| You might as well make coins from Egypt. | ||
| Yeah, it's stupid. | ||
| Beef coins. | ||
| Yeah, beef coins. | ||
| I would eat a beef coin. | ||
| How much is one beef coin? | ||
| Seventy-five cents. | ||
| Seventy-five cents? | ||
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Yep. | |
| See, I don't believe that, because that's a nationalized currency. | ||
| So I've been doing, like, I've been doing a ton of research into the non-dare-call-it conspiracy stuff, and a lot of it has to do with the beginning of the Federal Reserve, and a lot of it has to do about... | ||
| Jacking off to the gold standard, what have you. | ||
| A lot of it. | ||
| And so I've been reading hundreds of pages of the congressional record from 1920s. | ||
| I've been looking into this stuff to figure out exactly what was going on. | ||
| What are they lying about? | ||
| Where are the specific lies? | ||
| And when I hear Alex Jones come on the show and say, we need local currencies, we need state currencies, we need... | ||
| To me, it's like, you didn't... | ||
| You don't know why we have a federal reserve. | ||
| You don't understand why we have a national currency. | ||
| You don't understand why the gold standard was abandoned to begin with. | ||
| Like, it's because all that stuff created so many problems. | ||
| And those problems have largely gone away since then. | ||
| Well, it's one of those... | ||
| Outside of, like, legitimately. | ||
| Outside of the Great Depression, we have not had an instance of a severe bank run. | ||
| Since the Federal Reserve was founded. | ||
| We would have in 2008 if the stimulus package wasn't passed. | ||
| We would have been fucked. | ||
| But again, the Federal Reserve came about in, like, what, 1914? | ||
| And that's 2008, the Great Depression, and I can't remember what the third one was. | ||
| There were three instances of collapse, like, close to collapse since then. | ||
| Like, before that, in the 15 years prior to, or the 25 years or so prior to the foundation of the Federal Reserve, they had three giant panics. | ||
| Like, it happened all the time back then. | ||
| So, like, this whole shit is nonsense. | ||
| And the fact that Alex is espousing that means, like, I don't think you've thought about this, Alex. | ||
| I think what you want is secession. | ||
| But that's the thing about... | ||
| Conservatives, in general, is they don't want a real... | ||
| They don't want a solution. | ||
| They want the problem to be what they think it is. | ||
| They want a micro-problem. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Just like when my... | ||
| And my dad said this. | ||
| He was like, when the government doesn't have as much money, it's just like when the family doesn't have as much money, and you tighten your belt, and you cut down the deficit. | ||
| And you're like, well, okay. | ||
| I get... | ||
| Why you think that makes sense? | ||
| Conceptually, that makes sense. | ||
| Practically, in practice, that's the fucking dumbest idea that you can possibly say. | ||
| That's generally how you make things worse. | ||
| They just don't want... | ||
| They just don't want to accept that there are evidence-based solutions. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They can't handle that. | ||
| It needs to be an ideologically-based solution for them. | ||
| Also, it sucks when, like, whatever you are advocating has been done before and, like, no, it didn't work. | ||
| Sorry, dude. | ||
| Oh, do you mean a million times? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Over and fucking over again? | ||
| But I don't know. | ||
| I don't want you to... | ||
| Oh, you know what we can't have? | ||
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We can't have the new deal because it'll never work even though it kept... | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It did work, but that was because the conservatives did the... | ||
| And so has getting rid of the gold standard and the Federal Reserve Bank. | ||
| Yeah, but we need to go back to it because I wasn't alive when the consequences were around. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I don't have to pretend that they're real. | ||
| And I believe a bunch of fucking liars who wrote weird books that seemed to be working together back in the 70s. | ||
| But anyway, we'll get to that later. | ||
| I don't want you to think that I just had a, I was just speaking glibly and strayly when I said that I think Alex really, all he wants, when he wants local currencies and he wants local state currencies and stuff like that. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| He's not saying that because he wants a unified whole with competing currencies. | ||
| It's because he wants those entities to be separate from each other. | ||
| He wants secession. | ||
| He doesn't want the United States to exist. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's all happening. | ||
| They're coming with armed force against us. | ||
| Oh, I should be clear. | ||
| This is the beginning of February 3rd. | ||
| So now we jump to the next day. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| For your land, your property, your children, they are usurpers. | ||
| They are pirates. | ||
| Tyranny is when pirates get control of government. | ||
| They are a gang with a flag. | ||
| And they have these big, official-sounding titles. | ||
| But as the Declaration of Independence reads, when they become destructive of the aims of liberty and freedom in the people, it is the people's right, it is their duty to... | ||
| Abolish that form of government and set up a new one. | ||
| All I want is our old form. | ||
| These are revolutionaries. | ||
| I'm a counter-revolutionary. | ||
| They've come in, bought off our government, overthrown it, and now they're really getting ready to do a Soviet job. | ||
| And I don't joke when I say this. | ||
| If they win, they're going to kill 100 million of us. | ||
| They're going to kill most of us listening right now. | ||
| They want to murder you and your family. | ||
| Cool boy. | ||
| So there's shades of present-day Alex in terms of going out to break with a murder threat. | ||
| But he doesn't do an ad pivot beforehand. | ||
| He doesn't have products yet. | ||
| 2009, he doesn't have products. | ||
| All he has is his PrisonPlanet.tv memberships and his documentaries. | ||
| He hasn't even put out the Obama deception yet. | ||
| He's still editing it. | ||
| So, like, we're probably three years away from him having supplements. | ||
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Damn. | |
| Yeah, he's not... | ||
| Now, the thing that that does make me think of is, like, with the quote from the Declaration of Independence, something that I am kind of interested in right now is, what happens after Trump is... | ||
| Like, what happens after we prove that he cheated? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, shouldn't, like, all of his things should be invalidated, right? | ||
| Like, isn't that the only thing that makes sense? | ||
| Is if he is impeached and gotten rid of, also, we should be able to kill him for treason, right? | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| Like, that's the rule. | ||
| Well, I mean, we don't have access to the information and the evidence, but if... | ||
| Yeah, but he committed treason. | ||
| If that is the case, then that is the prescribed punishment. | ||
| So, I mean, I don't... | ||
| I'm not saying kill him, but I'm saying that does track. | ||
| No, if he's committed treason, he gets killed. | ||
| That's the rule. | ||
| So then, shouldn't that invalidate fucking everything? | ||
| It's tough to be president after you've been hung. | ||
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Right. | |
| Or whatever. | ||
| And your actions as president should be vacated because you cheated. | ||
| You're wrong. | ||
| Like, Gorsuch should be gone. | ||
| Like, that's the rule. | ||
| You'd think, but I don't... | ||
| But it's gonna stick around. | ||
| There's no way to do that. | ||
| Right? | ||
| There's no way to really do it beyond fucking revolution. | ||
| You could have a re-vote or something like that on everything. | ||
| Re-vote in Congress. | ||
| Yeah, but it's like... | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| Has anybody really considered what happens afterwards? | ||
| That's why it's called a crisis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a constitutional crisis for that reason. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because all those questions will have to be answered. | ||
| I mean, it's the same thing with the continuity of government. | ||
| There was a point where no one knew what was going to happen if the president died. | ||
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Right. | |
| That would have caused a crisis. | ||
| Right. | ||
| At this point, we're at that state where there is no plan for continuity of government. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Except it's not if the person dies, it's if we find... | ||
| It's if we find out that... | ||
| Nefarious hijinks. | ||
| Isn't that bananas? | ||
| It is. | ||
| Isn't that the concept of us trying to continue being a country after we find out that... | ||
| Our country was stolen. | ||
| Well, I think what you'll end up with is... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I have no idea how to... | ||
| Right? | ||
| I was going to try and say something, but I have no idea. | ||
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Who the fuck knows? | |
| It's bananas. | ||
| Like, my suspicion is everybody's going to try and to pretend that it's like, no, this is normal. | ||
| Like, we just... | ||
| That's what a lot of people are doing now. | ||
| We just impeach him. | ||
| And then he's gone, and then Mike Pence is president. | ||
| No, Pence will pardon him. | ||
| Be a lame duck until 2020, and then a Democrat will win. | ||
| But shouldn't Pence be hung, too? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| God, so many people should be hung. | ||
| These aren't decisions I can make. | ||
| These aren't... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, my gut says yes, but I don't know. | ||
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I don't know how to do that. | |
| I feel like it's so irresponsible for us to assume that we know the capital T truth about stuff. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| We don't. | ||
| You can look at stuff and you can see how everyone is behaving like runaway con men. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Runaway scam artists just trying to... | ||
| Just the very fact that Trump's lawyers are like, don't testify because... | ||
| You're going to commit perjury. | ||
| That's a bad sign. | ||
| Or you're going to try and fight the guy asking a question. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's not good. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| Trump can pardon himself is my favorite legal bullshit right now. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I thought that's not true. | ||
| No, it's absolutely not true, but he's saying it is. | ||
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Oh, yeah, sure. | |
| He's like, eh, I can pardon anybody, even me. | ||
| That's not corruption. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| We've got too much to get through. | ||
| We've got to shut this line of thought down. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Because, so, I just want to bring back into sharp focus that clip, he's very clearly saying that we gotta overthrow the government. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because they're coming after us, they're gonna kill your family. | ||
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Right. | |
| We have to overthrow the government because they've become abusive. | ||
| We have to. | ||
| Now, I want to say that that clip makes it not that impressive that I've sussed out that he's not really into the idea of the United States existing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he says something later that brings it into a little bit more focus. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And we'll talk about it when we get there. | ||
| But for now, I've found another really giant thing that's different between modern-day Alex Jones and 2009, and that is his support or non-support of a certain organization. | ||
| So the 68 Gun Control Act that the NRA promoted and pushed and got passed. | ||
| Oh, you didn't know that on record? | ||
| Oh, you thought they were your friends? | ||
| How are they going to disarm 150 million gun owners? | ||
| They're going to do it by controlling the group that supposedly is there to protect you. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Alex hates the NRA in 2009. | ||
| Alex doesn't like the NRA in 2009. | ||
| He hates the NRA! | ||
| That is bananas. | ||
| He's fans of Larry Pratt's group, Gun Owners for America. | ||
| And I can't remember the exact name of the group, but there's a group called Jews for the Preservation of Gun Ownership. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Something like that. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| One of the episodes we're going to be covering on the next episode, it's in February. | ||
| He has the guy from that on, and that guy is fucking nuts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He is aggressive. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That guy's nuts? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| He is rude. | ||
| Totally crude. | ||
| Oh, he's a bad dude. | ||
| But, I mean, this is interesting on one level because I think this is actually one of the differences between present day and past that could be... | ||
| I would be willing to be like, all right, I got you, Alex. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You're not that big of a hypocrite for this one. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because I don't think in 2009 that the NRA was as crazy as it is now. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| They still were a bunch of shitheads, and Alex is wrong. | ||
| To say that they want to help take away your guns. | ||
| But they weren't like the Ted Nugent, Oliver North, Dana Lash. | ||
| Still hard to believe that Oliver North is allowed to live. | ||
| It wasn't that wing of crazy gun shit. | ||
| It wasn't like... | ||
| These people probably want to shoot me. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, they totally do. | ||
| Yeah, and so there's a chance that Alex could, like, without giving up his principles, be against them back then and before them now. | ||
| I kind of could... | ||
| I could accept that, but it also tracks with all the different changes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, all the other stuff that we have up on the board. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It also tracks with, like, what are the policies that the Koch brothers would probably ask him to switch. | ||
| If he was to take their money, they support the NRA. | ||
| Like, this Alex Jones has a paranoia towards almost any organization. | ||
| He still loves guns. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Of course he still loves guns. | ||
| But it's the organization. | ||
| He just has a blanket paranoia right now. | ||
| Anything that... | ||
| It's almost a thought that tracks that... | ||
| Anything that has as much power as these organizations should not exist. | ||
| That's kind of his concept. | ||
| Any group that could possibly sway you could sway you towards non-liberty or whatever. | ||
| Not taking into account that that also includes him. | ||
| There's a really funny point where he talks about how more than an hour of television a day has been proven to give you Alzheimer's. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| Alex, your show is on for more than an hour a day. | ||
| No, it's not TV. | ||
| It's not TV. | ||
| It is at this point. | ||
| Oh, three hours long? | ||
| That's not TV. | ||
| It's YouTube. | ||
| It absolutely is. | ||
| It's YouTube, not TV. | ||
| It's prisonplanet.tv. | ||
| Yeah, don't worry about it. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex tries to get scary. | ||
| Imagine these control freak nobodies who've never had a business, never done anything in their lives. | ||
| They just go get a uniform, they get a little tattletale phone, a lot of them will get guns, tasers, just running around, and they want your houses, they want your property. | ||
| They're greedy, low-down, little scumbag bastards. | ||
| They hate the middle class. | ||
| They're going to turn loose the bureaucrat, bloodsucker, parasite class on the people. | ||
| Armored trucks pulling up, led by little commie brigades. | ||
| Oh, it makes me sick! | ||
| And folks, everything I've told you has come true so far. | ||
| I mean, are you ready for the rest to come true? | ||
| Or are we going to just go absolutely ape in the info war and defeat these bastards? | ||
| Because what they're doing is so over the top, if we just point out what these bastards are doing, there's no way they're going to get away with it. | ||
| So the only reason I kept that in is because of some fun imagery, but at the same time, I think it's demonstrating a really, really nascent version of his ad pivots. | ||
| Because he's... | ||
| Getting this stuff that's really scary, and then he's like, are we gonna go ape in the info war? | ||
| Which is kind of a buried plug for himself, you know, in terms of like... | ||
| This is the Infowar. | ||
| I run the Infowar. | ||
| Are you going to support it? | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So there is sort of that spiritual plug that's going on there after the scare, which is the mode now, which has been... | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| That's how he sells his products. | ||
| So I think that it's really interesting to see, like, this is the kernel. | ||
| This is the seed that will germinate and grow into that eventually. | ||
| What's fun about that is that it has now been proven super wrong. | ||
| Like, if we just point it out, it'll go, like, no, that's not true at all. | ||
| Betsy DeVos, we just pointed out that she stopped thinking about fucking diversity. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| She just stopped doing all of the things that protect minorities. | ||
| She just stopped doing it. | ||
| And we pointed it out. | ||
| And nothing is going to happen. | ||
| Here's what you don't get. | ||
| You point out what the globalists are doing, and they say, and they scamper into the corners. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You call out and point out what racist patriots are doing, and they're like, no, I'm going to do more. | ||
| Yeah, pretty much. | ||
| So that's kind of how that works. | ||
| Yeah, we gotta get rid of Scott Pruitt. | ||
| Don't we have enough on Scott Pruitt now to just like... | ||
| Like, at the very least, kneecap him for the rest of his life. | ||
| I agree, but we can't do the show like this. | ||
| I'm sorry, I'm sorry. | ||
| We can't do the show like this if your schedule is like this. | ||
| I'm sorry, I'm sorry! | ||
| The future will be better. | ||
| This is the last time that Jordan has a show right after we record. | ||
| But I agree, I agree. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The issue is also that none of that stuff that Alex is talking about ever ended up happening. | ||
| The idea of commie brigades. | ||
| No, he's always been right. | ||
| And you know why it didn't happen? | ||
| InfoWars pointed it out. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They got ape in the InfoWars. | ||
| They went ape in the InfoWars. | ||
| So at this point, Alex gets a little visit from his buddy Mike Rivero, who, if you recall, is the guy who has that show, What Really Happened, also on the Genesis Communications Network. | ||
| He's also the guy, just as a fun reminder, who has since... | ||
| Hated Alex Jones. | ||
| He got kicked off the network, I believe, in 2010 after the two of them had a bit of a fight about whether or not Alex was a shill for Israel. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because Mike Rivero is very anti-Israel and believes that Alex now works for them. | ||
| Man, I just wish your show was still around so he could tell us what really happened. | ||
| Oh, it is still on. | ||
| Oh, it is? | ||
| Not on Genesis, but it's still around. | ||
| It's on the internet. | ||
| Well, now I don't want it. | ||
| No, I don't either. | ||
| So anyway, Mike Rivero shows up, and again, a week and a half into Obama's presidency, this is how he's doing. | ||
| I'm already calling him the token president, not because of his skin color, but because everything he does in line with his campaign promises, it's a token amount. | ||
| He was going to cut defense spending. | ||
| It was a token amount. | ||
| He was going to end torture. | ||
| He did the token measure of closing Guantanamo, but those prisoners are still other places and still being abused. | ||
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All right. | |
| I mean, you bring up some fair complaints, but you choose a different word. | ||
| Yeah, if you're choosing the word token, it's because he's black. | ||
| And you're doing it just to bait people. | ||
| You're just trying to be antagonistic. | ||
| Calm down, Mike. | ||
| Anyway, at this point, the two of them are having a conversation. | ||
| Guess what comes back up? | ||
| Knucklegate 2009. | ||
| It was in the New York Times at Rahm Emanuel. | ||
| He was cracking his knuckles in a meeting with congressional leadership with Obama there. | ||
| And he said, please, Ram, that's distracting. | ||
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Don't do that. | |
| He's got this decorum. | ||
| He is a gentleman, has a lot of dignity that he projects. | ||
| And Ram got up in Barack's ear in front of the leaders of Congress and popped his knuckles in his ear and said, I'll do whatever I want. | ||
| And then they put that in the New York Times. | ||
| You'll notice that the story has evolved a little bit. | ||
| Quotations have been added. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Before, he just continued to do it nearby. | ||
| He did not stand up, go right into the president's ear, and crack his knuckles. | ||
| And it said, I'll do whatever I want. | ||
| You son of a bitch. | ||
| You president. | ||
| You president. | ||
| Oh, you just became president like that means anything? | ||
| I'm Rahm Emanuel. | ||
| I'm future terrible mayor of Chicago. | ||
| I heard he was quoted in the New York Times as cracking his knuckles and saying, I'll do what I want. | ||
| I'm a ballerina. | ||
| I'm a pretty, pretty ballerina. | ||
| Serena, crack knuckle, crack knuckle. | ||
| I actually heard that he was just quoted as cracking his knuckles. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| They wrote down asterisk crack, asterisk crack in quotation marks. | ||
| He's also quoting, like, I don't know if this was in the New York Times, but Alex is just going based off what Wayne Madsen told him. | ||
| Anyway, this gets even funnier. | ||
| Funny. | ||
| Debatable. | ||
| Giggle about it with the headline, the second most powerful man in America? | ||
| I mean, he did that to let Congress know, I run things. | ||
| Yeah, that was definitely a very defiant thing. | ||
| If I had been Barack Obama in that situation, Rahm would have been fired right there on the spot. | ||
| And if Barack Obama does not move to establish or assert his control over the White House process, then he's basically, he's already crippled for the rest of his administration. | ||
| For any business owner, imagine you've got ten employees around you at a conference table. | ||
| One of them is popping their knuckles. | ||
| You say, please stop that. | ||
| And they get up in your ear and pop it in your ear. | ||
| You'd be like, you're fired. | ||
| And any other president, the whole staff kisses up to them. | ||
| Not happening. | ||
| It's in the news that Rom bosses Barack Obama around in front of everybody. | ||
| He's doing that to let everybody know he is the president. | ||
| And he's not even an American, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| He's an IDF soldier. | ||
| His father, one of the founders of Mossad. | ||
| We're on the march. | ||
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The empire's on the run. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Way to go. | ||
| That was quick. | ||
| That was quick. | ||
| Hey, spoiler alert. | ||
| His dad did not start Mossad. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| Also, he is an American. | ||
| He was born in Chicago. | ||
| He is... | ||
| Not true. | ||
| He is an American. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| IDF. | ||
| He did volunteer de-rusting automobiles for Israel. | ||
| That fucking traitor. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That... | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| He was a civilian volunteer with the Israeli government. | ||
| And, I mean, you know, you could say, like, it's kind of weird that an American citizen volunteered for a foreign government service. | ||
| Everybody goes to a kibbutz sooner or later. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| But also, it's part of his heritage. | ||
| Like, his family is... | ||
| And if you look at his dad, Benjamin Emanuel, I believe. | ||
| He changed his name. | ||
| To Netanyahu. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He changed his name because his brother got killed by Arab, like in a skirmish with Arabs is the way it always is described in print. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so his brother's name was Emmanuel and he took on Emmanuel as his last name in honor of his brother. | ||
| Oh, that's fine. | ||
| I can't remember what his original, his birth last name was. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| He sucks. | ||
| But his dad was a pretty hyper Zionist kind of guy. | ||
| He's a really, real Israel-Israeli. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Kind of guy. | ||
| And so the idea that Rom would go over there and volunteer, like, that makes perfect sense to me. | ||
| That doesn't seem that weird at all. | ||
| To say that he's an IDF soldier is fucking insane, the stretch of the truth. | ||
| And then to say that he's not American is crazy. | ||
| He was born in... | ||
| Fucking Chicago. | ||
| And they say Obama was born in Hawaii. | ||
| His mom is an American, too, and she was just of Jewish ethnicity. | ||
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And they say she was of Jewish descent. | |
| It's crazy. | ||
| But to Alex, the argument against that is like, we should abolish birthright citizenship. | ||
| Like that kind of a thing. | ||
| I don't think he's willing to say that in 2009, but he might be feeling it. | ||
| But I think all of this is just further proof that back then Alex hated the state of Israel. | ||
| And he's willing to have people on who are scoring pot shots against it. | ||
| The only reason you would... | ||
| Critique Ram this harshly and throw out his dad created Mossad and he's not an American, he's an IDF soldier, are like, I hate the state of Israel. | ||
| Like, that is just... | ||
| Rahm is a proxy for Israel in terms of someone to punch. | ||
| Or if not the entirety of Israel, he is using Israel as the prop by which to discredit this guy, knowing full well that a lot of infill warriors are anti-Semites. | ||
| It's very hard to say it's a chicken and egg thing, but I think it's one of those things, it's like, who do you hate more, the chicken or the egg? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Hate them both. | ||
| So it's not quite the same as the way we understand that. | ||
| Both delicious. | ||
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Burn them. | |
| I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just a caller saying that he doesn't believe that Obama can prove he's a citizen. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| The reason I'm skipping it is because this next caller is fucking amazing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's going to introduce a character into the world of Infowars. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That I'd never heard about before. | ||
| Tres magnifique. | ||
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Now, besides that, I have a very important question. | |
| Years ago, in 2004, you had a guest on your show. | ||
| His name was retired Colonel Don D. Grand Prix. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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And I listened to that interview, and I was highly impressed that he had the transcript. | |
| I want to say real quick, when I was first listening to this episode, I blurt laughed when he said Don de Grand Prix. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, that's the fakest fucking name I've ever heard in my life! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| He was in the Grand Prix. | ||
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I printed that out, and he said, wasn't he a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at one time? | |
| He was assigned to it. | ||
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Okay. | |
| No. | ||
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He said that... | |
| He was in communication on a weekly basis with friends of his that work in the Pentagon, and he said that 70, I believe it was 70% of the highest-ranking military people were on our side, and he believed that they were going to... | ||
| A counter coup d 'etat is how he put it. | ||
| Listen, I appreciate your call. | ||
| Is that your question? | ||
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Yes, I'm wondering what happened to that. | |
| And another thing is, it just blows my mind that there is, it seems to me like there is some people in the military, higher-ups. | ||
| With some integrity... | ||
| No, I hear you. | ||
| Let me comment on that, because we've got to get to other callers, and you're a great caller, but I've got to move on here. | ||
| It's a very important point. | ||
| I tried to get Colonel Don de Grand Prix back on. | ||
| He had major heart problems. | ||
| I don't want to get into his things he told me privately. | ||
| He didn't say don't tell people, but I don't like getting into people's medical problems. | ||
| He was in serious medical trouble four or five years ago and couldn't come back on. | ||
| Then I talk to his wife, and I'm not even sure if he... | ||
| Well, we need to call and try to find out. | ||
| Man, I don't even know if this dude's still alive. | ||
| That's his answer to this guy. | ||
| I don't know where Don DeGrand Prix is. | ||
| Fucking asshole with a fake name. | ||
| I never knew where Don DeGrand Prix is. | ||
| Also, your accent makes me uncomfortable. | ||
| I gotta say. | ||
| Even Alex Jones is like, whoa, that's too south. | ||
| Too south. | ||
| Too south. | ||
| Get north of the Mason-Dixon line, Craig. | ||
| Uh-uh, sir. | ||
| No. | ||
| You are about to drop the N-word, sir, and I can't have that. | ||
| Now, boy howdy. | ||
| Whenever I... | ||
| I swear to God... | ||
| I can't listen to an episode from 2009 and stretch my arms without hitting a weirdo. | ||
| It's like, it's just, this show is lousy with weirdos. | ||
| All right. | ||
| In 2009. | ||
| Like, I'm sitting there listening, it's like, here's a call, it's, Don de Grand Prix isn't even a guest on the show. | ||
| He just gets brought up, and now I get to learn about Don de Grand Prix. | ||
| So I went and found the transcript of this interview. | ||
| All right, of course you did. | ||
| Of course you did. | ||
| I found the audio of it, too, but I wasn't able to cut clips of it because it's a mess how I was able to find it. | ||
| I couldn't pull it up on my phone. | ||
| All right. | ||
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But Don DeGrand Prix. | |
| All right. | ||
| Claims. | ||
| Throw it on me. | ||
| It's spelled D-O-N-N space D-E space Grand Prix. | ||
| G-R-A-N-D space P-R-E. | ||
| So it's not IX, at least. | ||
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At least it's not that. | |
| Don de Grandpre? | ||
| De Grandpre. | ||
| So Don de Grandpre, he claims to have had a 72-hour non-stop symposium with military, commercial, and recreational pilots. | ||
| Right after 9-11. | ||
| Not even Dave Chappelle could do that long. | ||
| 72 hours. | ||
| Couldn't do it. | ||
| Non-stop. | ||
| Non-stop. | ||
| Symposium. | ||
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Uh-uh. | |
| Just hanging out. | ||
| Can't stop, won't stop. | ||
| Three days, no sleeping, just a bunch of pilots doing coke, screaming at each other. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| And they unanimously agreed that the planes on 9-11 were not controlled by human pilots and had to have been remote controlled. | ||
| They wrote up a 24-page report. | ||
| These pilots are anonymous and will never be, their identities ever be known. | ||
| But John DeGrandpreet wrote up a 24-page report and he sent it to the government. | ||
| Don DeGrandpre attests that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, whose name he had a very difficult time coming up with, and may not have, sent out 500 copies of it. | ||
| I believe it was actually Ron DeGrandpre. | ||
| I believe it was General Shelton at the time, but he can't come up with the name at all. | ||
| It's pretty funny, in hindsight, because none of these assholes who claim to be involved, like Zach, can't come up with the name. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Joint Chiefs. | ||
| Isn't it Dave? | ||
| It's not Dave! | ||
| All these weird, mysterious, deep military sources you have don't know who's in charge of shit. | ||
| Just seems to be a problem. | ||
| Do you know why? | ||
| Because they're not really in charge of shit. | ||
| They know the names of the people who are really in charge of shit. | ||
| So Don DeGrand Prix set up 500 copies. | ||
| Could you say his name like 300 more times? | ||
| I am going to have to. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| So he sent it to the Joint Chiefs of Staff who sent out 500 copies of it to everyone. | ||
| So everyone in the government at the time had to have been aware of it. | ||
| Alex asks how he knew that these copies got out in the original interview from 2004. | ||
| Quote, I got a telephone call, and I think the date was the 5th of March, 2002, stating at the time the chairman of the Joint Chiefs had no comment, but he used the Marine Corps lingo Semper Fi, Semper Fidelity, always faithful. | ||
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Ah. | |
| And so that, to him... | ||
| To Don de Grand Prix was an indication that, like, ah, in code, I know that I got your message. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Well, that's because his name, though, was Steve de Indy 500. | ||
| Right. | ||
| General Shelton has since gone on the record. | ||
| Quote, General Shelton, who is now retired, also refutes Grand Prix's claim. | ||
| Quote, I don't know this individual, Shelton tells Popular Mechanics. | ||
| Quote, the name doesn't ring a bell, and I certainly never saw a report he rendered alleging there was some type of conspiracy or that the National Guard pilots shot down Flight 93. Oh, that's another piece of his art. | ||
| That's another piece of the National Guard shot down Flight 93? | ||
| Yep, and he claims to know who they are, and they're part of the North Dakota Airborne. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We'll get to that in a moment. | ||
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Oh, with Lenny, Kentucky Derby. | |
| Interestingly. | ||
| His symposium, the 72-hour symposium, and the report that came out of it have only ever... | ||
| Been reported by InfoWars and an unnamed newspaper in Portugal. | ||
| All right. | ||
| An unnamed newspaper in Portugal. | ||
| News with views didn't even tackle this subject. | ||
| They referenced it a bunch in the interview on InfoWars that Alex did, but they never give the name of the newspaper. | ||
| They just call it The News in Portugal. | ||
| I'm like, I just can't work. | ||
| The News in Portugal. | ||
| I can't work with this. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So this... | ||
| Also, come on, Portugal. | ||
| What the fuck's happening? | ||
| So listen to this exchange that the two of them had in that 2004 interview and see if you can get shades of the future in terms of Alex's narratives. | ||
| So this is Grand Prix. | ||
| He says, you see, as I outline in book one, he wrote a three-part book, which we'll get to in a second. | ||
| As I outlined in Book 1, I carry that on in Book 2 as well as in Book 3. We were on the verge of a military coup d 'etat. | ||
| Two towers and Return of the King, respectively. | ||
| And this was long in the planning, and even after the 78 days of bombing Kosovo, it became critical. | ||
| We were close to a coup d 'etat at that time. | ||
| In my survey of the reports and the pilots who worked with that, a coup was a possibility. | ||
| In fact, a coup d 'etat was pulled on the morning of September 11. Only it was an administrative, or what we call a cold coup d 'etat, or as Alex would call now, a soft coup. | ||
| The story of which was called the Silmarillion. | ||
| Alex's response, or a reverse coup d 'etat, Grand Prix? | ||
| Yes, in fact. | ||
| Alex, a counter-revolutionary junta. | ||
| A counter-counter-revolutionary junta. | ||
| You're picking up the pieces. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| This sort of mentality of a counter-coup has been a piece of Alex's, like... | ||
| His worldview for 14 years. | ||
| This is an interview from 2004 where he's pitching that narrative as being like, oh, there are good people in the military who are fighting against the coup that was launched on the morning of September 11th by Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Chaney, all these guys. | ||
| There are people on the inside who are fighting. | ||
| He's been doing this over and over and over again. | ||
| I don't think anyone realized this. | ||
| I don't see this ever talked about in terms of Alex Jones' reportage being like, oh yeah, this countercoup shit, he's just been failing to make that argument for the life of a junior in high school. | ||
| That entire time. | ||
| He watched Gundam Wing and was like, oh, that's the life. | ||
| That's the reality right there. | ||
| Oh, so also the fun part about this... | ||
| That's a weird poll. | ||
| Gundam Wing? | ||
| All right. | ||
| The fun part about this interview is that Don DeGrand Prix's solution is a goddamn military insurrection. | ||
| That'll do it. | ||
| Here's Alex. | ||
| Quote, I mean, it's ongoing. | ||
| They're federalizing everything. | ||
| They're militarizing everything. | ||
| They're engaging in the classic takeover. | ||
| Are they not? | ||
| DeGrand Prix. | ||
| Yes, they are. | ||
| And from this, Alex, and I bring this out very clearly in book three, the only way we can stop it is with a classic counter-coup d 'etat where the military steps in. | ||
| A classic counter-coup d 'etat. | ||
| Classic. | ||
| The classic coup d 'etat. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Boy. | ||
| Where we bring the military in, and under the aegis of the military itself, disengaging and disemboweling the civilian hierarchy and taking over and rerunning or reorganizing the federal government. | ||
| I like that he can use the word aegis correctly. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| Also, point me to a classic counter-coup, Dan. | ||
| I think it only exists in propaganda. | ||
| I don't want the new Coke coup. | ||
| That's some bullshit right there. | ||
| Bring me back to classic Coca-Cola. | ||
| I think it only exists in propaganda because it's always a narrative that's used to justify fucked up actions. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| By being like, we were just fighting against something more fucked up. | ||
| It's the Iraq War preemptive strike. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| Also in this interview, Don de Grand Prix accuses Israel of using miniature nuclear weapons in 1991 against Baghdad. | ||
| Like really tiny ones? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Don de Grand Prix makes a wild claim. | ||
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Quote, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff himself- Can you please just call him- Did you call him DDGP? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| DDGP makes this claim, quote, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff himself has agreed there were no hijackers on 9-11. | ||
| There were no cell phone calls. | ||
| Everybody aboard that aircraft, pilots and crew, were unconscious within 8 to 18 minutes after takeoff, and you can take it from there. | ||
| 8 to 18 minutes. | ||
| That's a weirdly specific and yet at the same time stupid... | ||
| Time frame. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, he gives out his phone number. | ||
| Could have said 10 to 20. He gives out his phone number, which we would call right now, except he's dead. | ||
| Oh, goddammit. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| But he does. | ||
| It's another Larry Nichols moment. | ||
| It's like, why are you giving out your phone number on the air? | ||
| Alex revealed. | ||
| What is his phone number? | ||
| I don't know, because someone might have it now. | ||
| Someone who does not have it. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Yeah, I don't want to give it up. | ||
| I still kind of want to call it. | ||
| Yeah, I do too, but we can't. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex reveals his amazing lack of concern for details and confirmation in the interview when he says this, quote, We're about to go back to the colonel and his amazing revelation of the North Dakota National Guard that had been moved to Langley, Virginia a few months before 9-11 and then went in there and shot down that Flight 93 over Pennsylvania. | ||
| He says he's talked to the pilot. | ||
| His info checks out. | ||
| Checks out how... | ||
| I love the tossed-off... | ||
| Oh, it checks out. | ||
| I've thoroughly vetted it. | ||
| In one of his books, Don DeGrompe reveals that the pilot he knows who shot down United 93 was a guy named Major Rick Gibney. | ||
| However... | ||
| The Air National Guard has pointed out that Gibney is a lieutenant colonel, not a major. | ||
| So that doesn't work. | ||
| And they can confirm he was nowhere near United 93 on 9-11. | ||
| Quote, he took off from Fargo, North Dakota, and flew to Bozeman, Montana, to pick up Ed Jacoby, Jr., the director of the New York State Emergency Management Office. | ||
| Gibney then flew Jacoby from Montana to Albany, New York, so Jacoby could coordinate 17,000 rescue workers engaged in the state's response to 9-11. | ||
| Jacoby confirms the day's events. | ||
| Quote, I was in Big Sky for an emergency manager's meeting. | ||
| Someone called to say that an F-16 was landing in Bozeman. | ||
| From there we flew to Albany. | ||
| Jacoby is outraged by the claim that Gibney shot down Flight 93. Quote, So it seems like he was probably lying about that. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| There's also electronic records of where these planes were, where Gibney was. | ||
| Also, there's some problems when you look into Colonel John de Grand Prix. | ||
| The first of them is that he's always referenced as a colonel, but there's no consistency in terms of what he claims to be a colonel of. | ||
| The bio that Alex reads on his show says that he's a retired army colonel, but Grand Prix refers to himself as both an Air Force and Marine colonel in various blurbs he's posted about himself online at various different times. | ||
| Yeah, those two things, they notoriously are interchangeable. | ||
| Don't you know how the Marines and the Air Force fucking love each other? | ||
| Also, the three books that he's written do not refer to him as a colonel. | ||
| They just say Don de Grand Prix on the cover. | ||
| DDGP? | ||
| Also, in his bio on Amazon, it doesn't say that he's a colonel at all. | ||
| His rank is never mentioned, probably because if he did put that into print in official places... | ||
| Somebody might... | ||
| Could be stolen valor. | ||
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| He could get sued for that. | ||
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| The second problem is that in his book, Barbarians Inside the Gates, he asserts that the Holocaust was a hoax and was planned in 1919 in order to create the State of Israel. | ||
| Pretty much all of his arguments and writings of history go back to an argument that the Jews did it. | ||
| He's a big old anti-Semitic conspiracy. | ||
| Yep, basically. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| But, man, it's fun that his name is Don DeGrand Prix. | ||
| It's too good. | ||
| It's real fun. | ||
| It's too good. | ||
| So he's a big old liar, and a lot of the information that Alex Jones has about 9-11, some of it definitely comes from him, and he is just a fucking creepy anti-Semitic weirdo. | ||
| Anyway, in this next clip, Alex gets back to secession. | ||
| There is real discussion out there about secession. | ||
| We have an independent movement here in Hawaii, which is founded on the fact that Hawaii statehood is not legal to begin with. | ||
| And so I would think that as we saw with the fall of Rome, as the central government bankrupts itself, the outlying provinces, or in this case states, start to break away and assert their independence. | ||
| And I think ultimately that's what we're going to see happen to the United States. | ||
| That's Mike Rivero. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I want to be clear. | ||
| I'm for the union, but it isn't a union. | ||
| We have to break apart first to come back together. | ||
| Got to go away to come back there. | ||
| Because the globalists, as they did in China 150 years ago, the same system here, starting with phony drugs they shipped in to then break down the society, and that's mainline history. | ||
| They weren't phony. | ||
| They're going to break us up. | ||
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That's why they weren't. | |
| That's what globalism is. | ||
| They merge larger units into continental unions to then break up and destroy the sovereignty of the original units into smaller parts through balkanization. | ||
| So we've got to break apart ourselves if we're ever going to reconstitute the republic, and That'll show them! | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So this, I think, is what Alex's real mentality is. | ||
| Colonialism is good, but it's also fake? | ||
| Break up the United States is what he really wants. | ||
| And then he's like, well, maybe we'll come back together in a non-globalist government. | ||
| But that's foolish. | ||
| Well, that's actually kind of the thing that I was talking to you about a while back. | ||
| Every ten years we should have a re-up vote. | ||
| Where it's like, every state is like, do you want to stay in the United States or no? | ||
| It's different. | ||
| I mean, yeah, it's different, but there's a certain part of that where it's like, the reason that he thinks we're going to come back together is because... | ||
| He doesn't. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| He doesn't think that. | ||
| But what he's selling you on is the idea that... | ||
| We will. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Out of choice. | ||
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| And it's a big difference between us hanging together now as almost like tradition. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that if we break up, everybody's going to be like, oh, well, I guess America was good. | ||
| But Alex isn't fucking stupid. | ||
| He understands that if the union breaks up. | ||
| Don't you say that. | ||
| Well, he is stupid. | ||
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| But he's not that stupid. | ||
| He knows that if the union breaks up, Texas, let's say, for example, is never going to join another union. | ||
| No. | ||
| That has gay rights. | ||
| Texas is never going to join another union that allows women access to abortions. | ||
| Texas is never going to join someplace that's not basically a Christian reconstructionist government. | ||
| And I'm really fine. | ||
| No, I'm out on Texas! | ||
| Let's let them go! | ||
| You're not looking at this right. | ||
| It's not even our land. | ||
| Give them back to Mexico. | ||
| Let's say that all the states become dissolved in terms of the federal government. | ||
| It's every state for themselves. | ||
| What you would end up with if you were trying to reconstitute a government, you would have most of that middle that doesn't vote with progressive... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Let's say. | ||
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| You'd end up with a giant chunk in the middle that becomes a white Christian ethnostate. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then you would have the fucking Pacific Coast, which would be there as a sliver. | ||
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Right. | |
| And you'd have New England. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's about it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| But everybody lives in those places. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, of course it's not good. | ||
| Dan, come on. | ||
| It's fucking stupid. | ||
| But you understand that he understands that. | ||
| Yeah, well, no, he doesn't understand that. | ||
| Yes, he does. | ||
| He does not understand that at all. | ||
| He absolutely does. | ||
| No, no, no, he doesn't understand that. | ||
| He absolutely does. | ||
| He does not have the capability to extrapolate consequences to his bullshit. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I mean, at best, you're right when he knows that Texas won't come back. | ||
| I think he knows that a lot of the country won't come back. | ||
| That he has the idea that a huge swath of the country, which would be even weirder because Chicago would be... | ||
| I think he knows that Texas in particular and a lot of other states that probably border Texas that could create a confederacy with Texas. | ||
| Florida, Oklahoma, Arizona. | ||
| I think he knows that those places would have the votes needed to create a dystopic state where women and minorities have a really fucking tough time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Look, here's the situation. | ||
| Alex is in favor of secession. | ||
| He's in favor. | ||
| I believe that he understands the endgame that he's advocating for. | ||
| You disagree. | ||
| We can agree to disagree on that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And we'll see if we can get any clues in the near future about this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I stand firm in my position that I think he understands that should the union dissolve... | ||
| Some of these states, perhaps the one that he lives in, would be able to create the kind of version of the United States that could never possibly exist as long as progressive people are involved. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
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But then they would be economically destroyed. | |
| Sort of the compromise that makes the United States work. | ||
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Yeah, doesn't it? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It's kind of the big deal. | ||
| So, you got your... | ||
| We're recording this on Sunday. | ||
| This is your last night at Zany's. | ||
| Congratulations making it through the month. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| It's been a long one. | ||
| I will give you one last gift. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| For your term here of this month. | ||
| And that will be... | ||
| I'm going to go ahead and cut all of the clips. | ||
| Where Alex Jones breaks down a music video by Three Doors Down. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| What? | ||
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| I fucked around at the first hour and my punishment is I don't get to hear the deconstruction of a Three Doors Down video? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Damn it, Dan! | ||
| This is the worst thing that I've ever done to myself. | ||
| The song is called Citizen Soldier. | ||
| Never heard it. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| Well, it was actually a jingoistic propaganda tool of the National Guard. | ||
| That sounds right for Three Doors Down. | ||
| It does. | ||
| It's a song about how people are citizens and soldiers. | ||
| Alex is really mad about it. | ||
| And I will say, sure. | ||
| It's propaganda, for sure. | ||
| But at the same time, it came out in 2007, originally. | ||
| At the height of Three Doors Down's popularity. | ||
| I think everybody knows that 2007 was owned by Three Doors Down. | ||
| And then re-released in 2008, at the end of 2008, and now we're in February 2009, so I don't know why you're so mad about this. | ||
| This is old news. | ||
| It's like a year and a half old song, three or four months old in the re-release. | ||
| Anyway, we'll cut all that out. | ||
| Alex spends the last hour or so of his show really, really pissed off about the Super Bowl commercials. | ||
| Because the Super Bowl had just happened. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| And so one of the big commercials was... | ||
| I love this 2009 bullshit. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's so much better than reality. | ||
| So one of the big commercials was Hulu. | ||
| Had that commercial with Alec Baldwin where Hulu is sucking people's brains out. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| No! | ||
| It was a big commercial. | ||
| No! | ||
| Why would I remember a... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There were aliens and they were sucking out your brain because you were watching too much Hulu. | ||
| But it was based on the idea that Alec Baldwin has a nefarious voice. | ||
| And then also, I believe, if I recall correctly, the aliens were the aliens from The Simpsons. | ||
| It was like The Simpsons were on Hulu. | ||
| It was sort of a tie-in. | ||
| Alec was like, they're trying to discredit David Icke. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| That is the underlying... | ||
| Look. | ||
| Alex, never make the subtext text. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| So that, I'm like, we don't need to listen to that. | ||
| That's just crazy. | ||
| This we do need to listen to. | ||
| Alex is super mad about a commercial for high fructose corn syrup. | ||
| All right. | ||
| At the time, in 2009, I remember these commercials. | ||
| There were commercials that were like, hey, I heard high fructose corn syrup is like poison. | ||
| And then someone was like... | ||
| It's not as bad as you think. | ||
| And that's the commercial. | ||
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The commercial is, it's not that bad. | |
| It's not that bad. | ||
| It's not like, hey! | ||
| I heard the pipeline is going to destroy the Native American's homeland. | ||
| Look, it's only leaked five times. | ||
| It's not that bad. | ||
| It's real bad, but it's not that bad. | ||
| What is it, the Juan Valdez? | ||
| Come on, man, get out of here. | ||
| The commercial is not saying the corn syrup is good. | ||
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No. | |
| It's just saying, hey. | ||
| Temper it. | ||
| Hey. | ||
| Not gonna kill you! | ||
| Step it back. | ||
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Step it back. | |
| You eat chips. | ||
| Those are probably as bad. | ||
| Calm down. | ||
| It's basically calm down. | ||
| It's basically... | ||
| So here's Alex's fucking take on the commercial. | ||
| It's some of the best analysis I've ever heard in my life. | ||
| Okay, so there's ad after ad after ad after ad after ad after ad after ad after ad all over TV, the Super Bowl. | ||
| And it's the same thing. | ||
| That's corn syrup. | ||
| I heard that's not good. | ||
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Oh, really? | |
| You heard it's not good? | ||
| What's your facts? | ||
| And always, he's the guy wanting the girl. | ||
| Have you seen the ads where they hold up a beer and it's a hot chick? | ||
| Real quick, I saw a couple of these. | ||
| I know for a fact that a couple of these corn syrup commercials were just women. | ||
| No dudes involved at all. | ||
| But be that as it may. | ||
| And you're really wanting her, but the association is the Courage Light or the Budweiser or whatever with the woman. | ||
| Basic psychology, basic advertising 101. | ||
| Well, here it's the good-looking girl, beautiful day, the popsicles in a sunny day, under the shade, perfect, giggling background noises because it's primitive, you know, creatures. | ||
| We like the sound of giggling children and happy people. | ||
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And there's a sound of rustling wind. | |
| You know, that was a target men who want to mate. | ||
| And associating at the primitive level, you will get the mate. | ||
| And the red lollipop symbolizes sex. | ||
| The red popsicle. | ||
| Red is a symbol of sex. | ||
| Folks, I took advertising. | ||
| This is psych warfare, okay? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You took advertising. | ||
| He took advertising. | ||
| Don't you remember when he took advertising? | ||
| When? | ||
| When you got sent to a farm for your last year in high school because you fought too much? | ||
| He took it. | ||
| Or was it at junior college before you dropped out? | ||
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When did you take the advertising junior? | |
| Trust me, the red popsicle is sex. | ||
| I took advertising at some warfare. | ||
| That's too bad because he could have had a field day. | ||
| Do you remember that commercial with Britney Spears and Bob Dole? | ||
| Where the fireworks went off? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Bob Dole is looking, and then Britney Spears starts dancing, and then the fireworks go off, and you're like, that's a man coming. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| This isn't done. | ||
| Here's more analysis. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And they're sitting there with it. | ||
| So it's a tasty-looking popsicle. | ||
| It symbolizes sex in the Freudian school. | ||
| They have several other schools in there. | ||
| There's the giggling children, the happiness. | ||
| This is a Garden of Eden, and in the middle of the Garden of Eden is this fruit growing, this red fruit. | ||
| It is the red popsicle. | ||
| Wait, that's also sex? | ||
| He's an idiot. | ||
| He shot his mouth off, but she showed him, the woman. | ||
| Now, for the woman, she sees this, and the girl's giggling up above him, like the goddess. | ||
| I just covered how it affects the man, the psych warfare on his angle. | ||
| For the woman, she's up above him in the garden. | ||
| She's happy, the sound of giggling children. | ||
| She has the popsicle. | ||
| It's the center of everything. | ||
| And she shows that she's more knowledgeable and lovingly giggles at the fool. | ||
| Now, there's other layers to this, but I just covered it. | ||
| There are other layers? | ||
| This is what they're doing everywhere. | ||
| What other layers are there, Dan? | ||
| I want to stress, he doesn't say. | ||
| I also want to stress, that's the end of the analysis. | ||
| Popsicle. | ||
| That's a two-minute clip. | ||
| That's a two-minute clip, bro, and that's it. | ||
| Popsicle. | ||
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That's crazy. | |
| Sex. | ||
| Sex. | ||
| Also fruit. | ||
| Red. | ||
| The woman. | ||
| Red is the color of sex. | ||
| She's slightly higher with giggles. | ||
| Nailed it. | ||
| Children running around, leaves rustling. | ||
| Everybody likes that. | ||
| Psychology, everybody likes it. | ||
| Everyone. | ||
| It's the garden of even. | ||
| Now, there are a lot of other layers to that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, like... | ||
| The popsicle stick, that's got a joke on there. | ||
| Everybody likes jokes. | ||
| So when you're licking the popsicle stick thinking about your own dick, then you think about jokes, and jokes are funny, and everybody likes those. | ||
| And there are kids around. | ||
| There are always kids around. | ||
| In Alex Jones' story, there are always kids around. | ||
| There's always a metaphor for sex, and there are also always kids around. | ||
| There's always kids around, Dan. | ||
| Humor is sex. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I took advertising. | ||
| It's psych warfare. | ||
| I mean, like, look, the thing that's really fun about this is, like, yes, Alex is making a decent point in that, like... | ||
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| Well, no, no, the beer commercial analogy that he's making. | ||
| It's like, hey, you know, they're trying to couple the idea of, like, hey, I got this cool, nice, awesome beer. | ||
| It'll get me chicks. | ||
| That is, like, a very basic piece of advertising. | ||
| Beer has been doing it for a long time. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| We're on, like, 60 years of beer selling like that. | ||
| Like, school of analysis and going the exact wrong direction with it. | ||
| Like, trying to apply that to, like, oh yeah, the corn syrup people are trying to make you a warning. | ||
| Here's what I think. | ||
| I've seen these commercials. | ||
| They are not at all, like... | ||
| If Alex Jones murdered somebody, and they were like, we gotta find out if he's fit to stand trial, and we played that for a psychiatrist, they'd be like... | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I think his IQ is way too low. | ||
| Here's what I would do. | ||
| Alex Jones, he's probably killed somebody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would trick him into thinking that he is innocent and he's like the fugitive. | ||
| Okay, alright. | ||
| He's looking for the one-armed man. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And he has to then describe how the person was killed. | ||
| But I would have a lineup. | ||
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| I would have a lineup and it would be all humans and Mr. Peanut. | ||
| And that would be my test to see. | ||
| If this guy is crazy. | ||
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| It would just be a drawing of Mr. Peanut and four humans. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I guarantee he's choosing Mr. Peanut. | ||
| It was probably Mr. Peanut though. | ||
| I'm not going to lie to you. | ||
| That's how I would prove he's crazy. | ||
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| I don't know why I thought of that. | ||
| I don't know where that came from either, but I love it. | ||
| Anyway, so Jordan, you got to get out of here. | ||
| You got your show. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| But something that does not need to get out of here is our website. | ||
| Nicely done. | ||
| Great transition. | ||
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
| You can follow us on Twitter. | ||
| Sorry, this episode's been a bit rushed. | ||
| It's fault all around. | ||
| It's my fault. | ||
| It's your fault. | ||
| It's Zany's fault. | ||
| It's also Don DeGrand Prix's fault. | ||
| God damn it, DGGP. | ||
| It's probably mostly his fault. | ||
| Yeah, Twitter at Knowledge underscore Fights. | ||
| We're on Facebook. | ||
| We are on Facebook. | ||
| You can find us on iTunes June 15th. | ||
| Austin. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Beer land. | ||
| 10 p.m. | ||
| Oh, we got seats, too, apparently. | ||
| We do have seats now. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Some seats are going to be brought. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So it won't be standing up watching a podcast. | ||
| And then it is actually my turn tonight. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And for cutting this episode short, Jordan, go fuck yourself. | ||
| I don't think you get to do that. | ||
| I think I do. | ||
| The president can pardon himself. | ||
| I was actually scrolling through the rest of this, like, trying to find somebody. | ||
| It's like, we've said Don DeGrand Prix too many times. | ||
| Who else are we going to say? | ||
| Jimmy Carter? | ||
| All right, you can tell yourself to fuck off. | ||
| Yeah, thank you. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |