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May 1, 2018 - Knowledge Fight
01:33:25
#156: Gaseous Beings and Antiques

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about how Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot just posted her newest discussion of an interview she conducted with Mark Richards. Depending on who you ask, Mark Richards either is a crazy person who orchestrated a murder in 1984, or he is a Secret Space Captain who was framed because his friendship with Raptor Aliens makes him too dangerous to the New World Order. Whatever you may believe, the new information we learn today is potentially earth-shaking.

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d
dan friesen
38:36
j
jordan holmes
33:37
k
kerry cassidy
13:49
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alex jones
00:03
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
dan friesen
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Alex, I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
kerry cassidy
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes that sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Yes, sir.
Indeed, we are.
Dan.
Dan.
dan friesen
Yes, sir.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Sir.
jordan holmes
If you were to describe this lost episode that brutally destroyed my psyche last night.
dan friesen
You didn't.
You.
Fuck you, first of all.
Like, straight up?
jordan holmes
It hurts me more than it does you, Dan.
dan friesen
Straight up?
jordan holmes
I poured my creative soul into that episode.
And all you did was hours upon hours of work.
dan friesen
I know that we both took it hard.
It didn't go well.
Audience, if you knew the fun we had, you'd take it very hard, too.
But one of us went home.
The other one anger drank and recorded.
jordan holmes
Sir, I also took a bath.
unidentified
Yeah.
Fuck you.
jordan holmes
I had to recover emotionally.
dan friesen
I slammed a bunch of beers and then recorded a half hour summation.
unidentified
Yes, we both deal with tribulations in our own way.
jordan holmes
Trials, tribulations.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
By the way, nobody believes in pre-trib rapture anymore.
I'm pretty sure every Christian is like, oh, we're in trib time.
unidentified
Sweet.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Love it.
jordan holmes
So you could say that we both know a lot about both trib.
Pre- and post-Rapture.
dan friesen
But I know Alex Jones stuff.
jordan holmes
And I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
See, there's the difference.
jordan holmes
Ah, there we go.
dan friesen
So we gave some shouts out to listeners who've donated to the show on that last episode.
jordan holmes
And we will never do it again!
It was lost, but it'll never happen!
dan friesen
That doesn't seem right.
I feel like we gotta give these people a second shout-out, even though spiritually we've already put it into the universe.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But I'd like to give a thank...
jordan holmes
Eckhart Tolle all the way.
dan friesen
Indeed.
I'd like to give a shout-out and a thank you to...
I'm a policy wonk, Doug.
unidentified
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Doug.
jordan holmes
Thank you so very much, Doug.
dan friesen
Also, like to give a shout-out to new policy wonk, Dakota.
unidentified
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Dakota.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much, Dakota.
dan friesen
Also, like to give a shout-out to another new policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Oh, there's another new policy wonk.
dan friesen
What's going on out there, Matthew?
unidentified
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much, Matthew.
Matthew, top four books of the Bible.
dan friesen
It's true.
Yep.
Top four synoptic gospels in the Bible.
Top four things that were taken from the Q source.
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
QAnon is what we're talking about.
dan friesen
Parallels.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there you go.
Everything old is new again, Dan.
dan friesen
Also, one more shout-out to someone who took their donation and bumped it up a little bit higher.
And now I would like to give a shout-out and a thank you to our newest globalist.
What's going on out there, Mike W.?
unidentified
I'm a policy wonk.
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Shark!
dan friesen
Oh, thank you so much.
unidentified
Oops.
dan friesen
Got caught up in it.
jordan holmes
Let that play a little too long.
Too good.
dan friesen
Yeah, thank you so much, Mike.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much.
dan friesen
If you'd like to become a policy wonk yourself and you haven't, you can do so if you feel inclined by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking that support the show button.
We would appreciate it.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Now.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Huh.
dan friesen
Today.
jordan holmes
Sir.
dan friesen
Today.
jordan holmes
How dare you?
dan friesen
Today.
jordan holmes
Have you no decency?
dan friesen
I don't.
I don't, because I'm about to blow your mind.
jordan holmes
See, the only problem is, you revealed to me before the show that today...
dan friesen
No, I told you during the Lost episode.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's true.
dan friesen
Because you're going to be doing a lot of comedy this month.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I introduced a possible way for us to work our schedule, wherein Monday live streams would be Project Camelot land.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Because there's a lot going on over there, and it must be covered.
jordan holmes
Yeah, oh, of course.
We would be derelict in our duty were we not to cover it.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
And so, yeah, I accidentally let that slip for you, so you knew coming in that we were going to be...
jordan holmes
Oh, and I have been very excited.
dan friesen
Ladies and gentlemen, Carrie Cassidy has gone back to Vacaville Prison.
And it is now time to explore the eighth interview with Captain Mark Richards of Space Command.
jordan holmes
Just the existence of all of those words in the same sentence is a delight to me.
dan friesen
Earth Defense Force.
unidentified
Eight.
Eight.
jordan holmes
What could you possibly get in the eighth installment?
dan friesen
You are so dumb.
Okay.
jordan holmes
I accept that.
dan friesen
There are so many new wrinkles.
I told you just before we started that I almost fucked around and just played the entire episode.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but is this like a reboot of Spider-Man kind of situation?
Are we starting all over again with a whole new situation?
dan friesen
Toby McGuire is still in this.
jordan holmes
Okay, all right, all right.
dan friesen
And by that I mean Raptors.
Tobey Maguire is the Raptors of Project Camelot.
jordan holmes
In that it dyed its hair black in the third episode, and it was really weird.
dan friesen
So here's a little out-of-context drop that I'm going to start off with.
It's something that's important to remember.
kerry cassidy
And he does have access to a television.
dan friesen
Okay.
Good to remember that.
jordan holmes
Might want to keep that in mind.
dan friesen
Yeah, as we go through this.
Just be aware that he's watching shit.
jordan holmes
All of these are basically synopsis of first 48 Hours episodes, right?
dan friesen
More or less.
So, here we go.
Here is Carrie, how she starts off the episode.
kerry cassidy
Hi, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot.
dan friesen
Good start.
kerry cassidy
I'm going to talk about my latest interview with Captain Mark Richards of the Secret Space Program.
And I've had a delay because I went to Egypt with a group.
And so this is coming in a bit late.
I actually interviewed him in March, but I took very good notes.
jordan holmes
You've been holding on to this?
dan friesen
She was in Egypt.
Anyway, this is boring.
That was just our introduction.
So now...
This, how the episode starts off, blew my mind.
And I think she might be talking about us.
jordan holmes
You have gotten a little bit paranoid.
dan friesen
I read paranoid.
Just listen to this and, like, it doesn't seem that bizarre.
jordan holmes
If it's not anything less than, so these two assholes are making fun of me.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
Listen to this and see what you think.
kerry cassidy
Basically, when I first got there, we talked about the impact on him of some information that he was given that had to do with people had talked critically about him and myself and also lied about him, didn't do their research, and so on.
And he was given some information about that, how it occurs on the Internet.
This is commonplace for us that are part of this internet world, but for Mark, who has been in prison for over 30 years, he is not familiar with the internet culture, so to speak, and he doesn't know anything about avatars, how people can hide their identity and therefore act very badly, and that's really what's going on here.
dan friesen
I'm not...
jordan holmes
No, that's it.
We don't hide our identity.
We're very front-facing.
dan friesen
But we could be shapeshifters.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
That's true.
You gotta get into her world, man.
All details are negotiable in this world.
You're absolutely correct.
unidentified
I'm just trying to think, who the fuck else is making fun of them?
jordan holmes
Everybody who knows of them, right?
It has to be all of them.
dan friesen
That's not many people.
jordan holmes
It has to be all of them.
dan friesen
I don't see anything posted around on the internet of like, hey, you gotta get a load of this thing.
This is crazy.
jordan holmes
This is bananas.
dan friesen
I think it's just us consistently talking about how he's a murderer and he's tricking this poor, also anti-Semitic lady.
jordan holmes
Maybe when she watches the live stream, which by the way, Carrie, thank you for joining us.
dan friesen
Thrilled to have you.
jordan holmes
Feel free to speak up in the chat room.
Maybe when she watches it, she just sees like a Twitter egg over our faces all the time.
She's got like a browser extension.
dan friesen
Like a face blindness?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Something like that?
dan friesen
Possible.
Interesting theory.
Speaking of...
Yes!
jordan holmes
Nice transition, Dan.
dan friesen
Speaking of things that are interesting.
jordan holmes
Dan, great transition.
dan friesen
So, Mark's been in prison for 30 years.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Because he was behind a murder.
jordan holmes
Or...
dan friesen
It turns out that he's had some protection while he's in prison.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I'm not talking about that white nationalist gang he clearly runs with, as we learned on the last episode.
jordan holmes
What about his second-in-command, his gentleman's gentleman?
dan friesen
Oh, he doesn't come up.
jordan holmes
He doesn't come up?
unidentified
What happened?
dan friesen
I think he was his celly, you know, his cellmate.
And then Mark's been moved to another prison.
jordan holmes
Wait, he's been moved to another prison?
dan friesen
Well, another part of the prison, apparently.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
They talk a bunch about how, like, he's hanging out with these old dudes and stuff like that.
He's an old dude.
He's complaining about old men in prison.
Like, I don't know.
This is bizarre.
jordan holmes
How old is he?
He's got to be in his 60s, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, I'd put him early 60s, late 50s.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's got to be something like that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think he was 29 when he got arrested.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I believe so.
Yeah, so probably right around there.
jordan holmes
So probably right around there.
dan friesen
But he has some protection in prison.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
It's the best street gang around.
unidentified
Social Security.
kerry cassidy
They are not allowing them to get parole, and this is part of the problem with the prison system.
unidentified
It's very antiquated and really barbaric.
kerry cassidy
He believes he was put into this...
These quarters to silence him, and he only feels that he's alive because of the hidden help from his friends, the raptors.
dan friesen
Makes sense.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
All right.
They could...
They're guardian angeling him while he's in prison.
dan friesen
Hidden help from the raptors.
jordan holmes
Purely hidden.
Right.
Unsuspectable.
dan friesen
He has people send him money.
jordan holmes
They cannot, however, get him out.
dan friesen
He gets chocolate from the commissary, and that's how he pays them for their help.
jordan holmes
If he got chocolate, he would already be dead.
dan friesen
No, no.
jordan holmes
He would already have been eaten in the meet and greet room.
dan friesen
The meet and greet.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
You walk in.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
This is the problem with prisons.
They're so antiquated, I can't even use an accurate description.
dan friesen
You walk into the meet and greet room to meet your aunt, who's coming to visit you.
unidentified
Boom.
dan friesen
You look to the side.
unidentified
Raptor.
jordan holmes
Better not be holding chocolate when that raptor comes.
dan friesen
So, we've wrestled with the high level of bullshit that's flowing out of Mark Richards' mouth about why he's not gotten out of prison.
Because, theoretically, he's got super high-connected friends and associates.
jordan holmes
The spectacular, perhaps even fireworks-level display of bullshit.
dan friesen
It turns out he could get out of prison any time he wants to.
unidentified
Of course!
jordan holmes
Well, he's got hidden help!
dan friesen
Yeah, the raptors can create portals.
unidentified
Wait, what?
kerry cassidy
And keep in mind that he has an extended family, including his wife, Joanne, that he loves, and this is why he tolerates the situation instead of leaving through a portal, which actually could be facilitated for him.
And so he is very dedicated to his wife and family.
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Boy, anybody who has access to portals and does not overuse them, Noble.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Noble character.
dan friesen
Very restrained.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I could get out of prison with my rafter portals at any point I want.
jordan holmes
Well, why couldn't you get out of prison and then just get back into prison via portal?
dan friesen
Or how about, like, demonstrate?
Like, you don't have to get out of prison with a portal, you can just go to the other room, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Why don't you do that?
Really clear some stuff up.
jordan holmes
That's a real petty use of portals.
dan friesen
But it would demonstrate that he's not making all this up because he's a bored murderer.
jordan holmes
It never fails to delight me when the reason that all of this is happening is because there is a bored murderer in prison who tricked a weird lady.
dan friesen
And now get this.
jordan holmes
I love that.
I love that this is the world we live in.
dan friesen
Now get this.
He might also be QAnon.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
He's not, but listen to this clip.
kerry cassidy
As far as arrests and tribunals offshore, he agrees this is happening and not being reported in the mainstream news.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
kerry cassidy
He basically says that military men are disappearing also.
jordan holmes
Everywhere.
kerry cassidy
And this week, for the week that he was interviewed, he was talking about two Navy pilots who had disappeared in an F-18 event in Antarctica.
And that they couldn't use a U.S. ship to approach the location due to the journalists who would report the incident.
And so they hired an Argentine helicopter to go in and rescue some scientists who were attacked and probably saw something they were not supposed to see.
And their minds were wiped before the news reporters got to them.
dan friesen
I think he watched Men in Black recently on that TV that he has access to.
jordan holmes
TNT plays Men in Black 2 all the time.
dan friesen
Man.
This is awesome.
jordan holmes
An F-18 event.
What was the F-18 event, Dan?
What would you even call an F-18 event?
dan friesen
A flight?
jordan holmes
Was it out of gas?
dan friesen
Look.
One of the best parts about these episodes is I have no responsibility to look into this.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because by the very definition of the things they're describing, oh, it's under wraps, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
No one's going to report on this.
unidentified
There's nothing.
jordan holmes
I can't find primary sources on it.
unidentified
You can't find anything.
Of course not.
dan friesen
Because, of course, you can't.
jordan holmes
Well, the Antarctica journalists were also mind-wiped.
dan friesen
Here's why it's really exciting that she brought up Antarctica.
Because I know a little bit about this.
unidentified
Wait, we know a little bit about this in specific?
Well...
jordan holmes
Or just Antarctica in general?
dan friesen
Let's play this next clip.
jordan holmes
Because I've heard there's penguins.
Or not penguins.
dan friesen
Let's play this next clip, and then I will explain what I mean by this.
unidentified
She's...
dan friesen
Man, Mark also has to have the internet.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Or YouTube, because he's been watching some Hollow Earth videos.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
kerry cassidy
We talked a lot about Antarctica this time, and he said regarding Antarctica, there are multiple scenarios and multiple problems.
He said the Nazis in New Berlin are still there, although he refers to them as fascists.
He said, I think that's a fine distinction, but whatever.
I don't?
The ruins of Atlantis are being revealed and studied by the U.S. and Russia.
This is the last evidence of human-alien civilizations where humans and aliens were living together openly.
dan friesen
Hey, guess what?
Spoiler alert!
If the United States and Russia are working together on a secret space program and in contact with all of these aliens, they don't fucking need to study Atlantis.
jordan holmes
No, they gotta study Atlantis.
dan friesen
They kinda got all the information they need.
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
Two-pronged research.
Look, trust the aliens, but verify the secret alien knowledge that is left over in Antarctica.
That's the old saying.
It never goes out of style.
I use it three times a week, at least.
dan friesen
So this idea that Nazis live underground...
jordan holmes
Where's New Berlin?
dan friesen
It's underground in Antarctica.
Wait, what?
This is hollow earth shit.
This is straight up hollow earth.
jordan holmes
New Berlin.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Where the fascists live.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
It's underground.
dan friesen
It's a distinction.
Nazis, according to Mark.
jordan holmes
Look, sometimes they're Nazis, sometimes they're fascists.
dan friesen
It's a fine distinction.
Whatever.
jordan holmes
Could be the Hungarian fascists.
Who knows?
It could be Erdogan.
Does Erdogan regularly visit Antarctica?
dan friesen
Possibly.
jordan holmes
Because that would be a smoking gun, my friend.
dan friesen
So what you've got when you get into the hollow earth theory that people put out there...
jordan holmes
There's Nazis living in the earth?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
There's always Nazis somewhere.
dan friesen
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That's Godwin's law, but applied to geography?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So there's a hole at the bottom of the earth and at the top.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
And you can go inside it.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And inside is like mythical creatures.
Right.
Nazis have a city called New Berlin, and they also have ambassadors at different governments.
They have their own embassies on hidden floors.
unidentified
Within the already hidden community?
dan friesen
Why do you think you can't go to the 13th floor most places?
Fucking New Berlin embassy.
jordan holmes
That is just literally...
Just as reasonable as a superstition about the number 13. Just as reasonable.
Full disclosure, I do have a bit about John Quincy Adams believing that the Earth is hollow.
dan friesen
Right, sending Admiral Byrd out there and shit.
That does come up.
jordan holmes
Of course!
dan friesen
So anyway, here is Carrie talking about how New Berlin has diplomatic ties with America.
kerry cassidy
There is lots of contact between the Nazis in New Berlin and our government.
And there are several hundred thousand who are massively rich because of minerals from Antarctica.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Where else are you going to get them?
dan friesen
I'll be honest.
jordan holmes
Everybody would mind there.
dan friesen
That's me being a dick.
That's real.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you should have looked into this.
Maybe there are rare earth minerals.
dan friesen
I bet there are.
jordan holmes
Look!
Hey!
Where the fuck else do you think Alex gets his iodine?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
He's clearly aligned with the fascists in New Berlin.
dan friesen
I would not be surprised by that in any way.
jordan holmes
This world is coming together, my friend.
dan friesen
Alex Jones believes in hollow earth.
I like hollow earth stuff, actually.
In terms of the clearly wrong beliefs out there, it's one that I can dig on.
I can watch a hollow earth video.
For like an hour and not be mad, but flat earth ones make me really mad.
jordan holmes
Well, flat earth is stupid.
Hollow earth frustrates me because I want a mathematical certainty on how hollow.
Like, how many miles?
dan friesen
That's very strange.
unidentified
When does the hollow...
jordan holmes
I want to...
For some reason, I can't get over, like, how thick do you believe the crust is?
Is there an opening?
Or is the entire thing hollow?
Is there still a core?
How much is going on?
dan friesen
There is a core, and it's the sun for the hollow earth.
jordan holmes
Why don't...
What?
dan friesen
Inside, the core of the earth is like a sun.
It lights everything.
jordan holmes
Alright.
Alright.
See...
I have some issues with the hollowness of the Earth.
dan friesen
As I understand it, there's external gravity.
So it's like gravity pushing outward.
So we're walking on the crust of the Earth.
jordan holmes
That's because the outer sun's gravity is pushing us down.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
But we're not sinking into the Earth.
Because the inner Earth's gravity is pushing us up.
dan friesen
Hey, bro, science don't work out.
jordan holmes
That's clear.
That's one-to-one.
dan friesen
But it's fun.
And it explains why you can't fly over the poles.
jordan holmes
No, it doesn't.
unidentified
Because if you did, you'd see that it's a big hole down there.
dan friesen
Probably Nazis in there.
jordan holmes
That's always been my favorite part of the hollow Earth, is that it's not just that the Earth is hollow.
It's that there's a hole pre-made for us.
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
Do you know what I'm saying?
There's a hole at the top.
There's a hole at the bottom.
There's always the hole at the top.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
There's always the hole at the bottom.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Because that's how it is, bitch.
jordan holmes
It doesn't make any sense.
Even if it was hollow.
You don't make a golf ball with a hole at the top and at the bottom.
It's a bad structural design.
dan friesen
You should know that everything is hollow.
According to them, the moon is hollow.
Everything is hollow.
unidentified
What else is hollow?
dan friesen
There's chocolates.
I keep coming back to chocolates for a reason.
jordan holmes
I know, you're in a weird place.
dan friesen
So we've got to learn about these poles.
The North Pole, South Pole, those are the big ones.
And here is Mark.
jordan holmes
Are we going to get into some magnetic field stuff?
dan friesen
Certainly not in detail.
kerry cassidy
So he says the North Pole is also a stargate.
unidentified
Sure, of course.
kerry cassidy
There are massive stargates at both poles.
jordan holmes
Why?
kerry cassidy
And those are the most energized vortexes on the planet.
dan friesen
Checks out.
kerry cassidy
Regarding inner Earth, Mark thinks a lot of people are actually seeing into earlier versions of Earth when they view into stargates at the poles.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Why?
Why would that be?
Is that a feature?
Is that a bug?
Is there a reason?
Is there a point to that?
dan friesen
I will say...
jordan holmes
Is there something to gain or lose from this?
dan friesen
I will say that there are a number of times, and I believe one of them is right after that, where she says, I should have asked for clarification.
She says that like two or three times throughout this episode.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, you should have.
jordan holmes
But we always think of the best comebacks after the fact, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah, that's true.
jordan holmes
She was talking to him and then a day later she's like, oh!
dan friesen
She's on a flight to Egypt and it hits her what she should.
jordan holmes
Every time.
Every time.
dan friesen
So I don't remember.
jordan holmes
So the Stargates are at both poles.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Because...
dan friesen
Because they're powerful vortexes.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
That...
Fine.
dan friesen
Checks out.
jordan holmes
There's a magnetic field.
That probably makes sense.
Why not?
There's a reason we call them the poles.
dan friesen
Love it.
jordan holmes
Doesn't that make sense?
dan friesen
I'm satisfied.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
All right.
Magnets have poles.
Earth has poles.
dan friesen
How do they work?
jordan holmes
Hollow Earth.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Where do they come from?
So, who put the Stargates there?
dan friesen
Who put the Bob and the Bobsy Bobsy Bob?
What are you asking the question for?
jordan holmes
I want to know!
Also, why is it that you can see into an earlier version of Earth through a Stargate?
That doesn't make sense!
It's a gate for which to travel between the stars, not time.
dan friesen
See, here's the thing.
In order to do the...
There's a parallel Earth that you're seeing, right?
Going through the Stargate will get you to this parallel Earth, but you also have to travel in time while you do it.
It's complicated.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think that Mark has watched a TV show.
Which one?
Actually, Carrie discusses it.
unidentified
We talked about Parallel Earth.
kerry cassidy
I referred him to a new series that's out called...
I think it's on Starz, and it's called Counterpart, which is really like Fringe, if you've ever seen that, on steroids.
jordan holmes
Loved Fringe, too.
kerry cassidy
You can get to parallel Earth via the stargates at the poles, but you also have to time travel due to the split that occurred when creating a parallel Earth.
jordan holmes
Strangely enough, just like in that show, Counterpart.
kerry cassidy
The creation of the parallel Earth and the time travel required is actually just like the storyline of stars, which Mark has no access to and didn't know about.
So that's quite fascinating.
It sounds like perhaps the...
Producers over at Counterpart are getting fed information from the secret government.
dan friesen
That's the easiest explanation.
jordan holmes
Now, and I will just throw this out here as a possibility.
Maybe she described to him the entire plot of the Star Show Counterpart.
dan friesen
And he said, yep.
jordan holmes
And he said, that sounds right.
unidentified
Or...
dan friesen
He secretly has stars.
jordan holmes
That's entirely possible.
I feel like stars doesn't go into...
dan friesen
Prisons?
jordan holmes
Doesn't go into prisons.
dan friesen
Come on.
It would probably cost more to not have stars these days.
jordan holmes
Now that's a conspiracy theory right there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, I completely...
unidentified
Wait, did you just say...
jordan holmes
These days?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Putting my grandpa hat on.
jordan holmes
It would cause more to not have stars these days with the kids.
dan friesen
So, I forgot to bring this up.
There's a new wrinkle to Carrie's Mark Richards reports, and that is she started putting little, like, chyrons, kind of.
Like, a little thing will pop up, like, talking about New Berlin.
Right, right, right.
On the YouTube video.
jordan holmes
Right, pop-up video.
dan friesen
And there's two ones that I thought...
jordan holmes
Pop-up video.
unidentified
Ooh!
dan friesen
There's two that I think are amazing.
One, she misspells China.
She spells it Chinia.
Which is...
unidentified
Come on.
jordan holmes
That's petty?
dan friesen
Take a little time.
The second one, this one's amazing.
When she was talking about Antarctica, she spells out A-N-T dash Arctica.
I should ask him about this.
Implying that it's named after the ant beings.
unidentified
Yeah.
So.
So, that's just a question mark.
jordan holmes
I'm just like, Antarctica.
unidentified
Wait.
jordan holmes
Ant-Arctica.
Right.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
Leads me to believe she didn't study Latin at any point.
She did study ants.
That's true.
Ant beings.
jordan holmes
Ant beings.
Again, they are just ants.
unidentified
Ant being.
dan friesen
Ant doing.
jordan holmes
Ant beings are just ants.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So...
Now we get to the politics.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
Well, he's got stuff to say.
He gets WGM there, I assume.
dan friesen
Mark Richards.
jordan holmes
He's a big fan of Tom Skilling.
dan friesen
You know, he's not a fan of...
He's not a fan of our present president.
Because...
jordan holmes
That's a positive development, I guess.
dan friesen
Well, it's because he's controlled by aliens.
unidentified
Oh!
So close.
kerry cassidy
Regarding the Trump administration, some people in the Trump administration...
Because they can't handle what's coming.
And they are terrified.
Basically alluding to the disclosure, the ET reality, and what that entails here on planet Earth.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I mean, if you took, like, you just took that inference at the end off, I agree with the rest of the sentence.
Trump officials are quitting.
Because they can't handle what's coming.
That part's fine.
Not aliens, but...
jordan holmes
After I heard Ronnie Jackson's defense, when he read the laundry list of things that he was accused of doing, and he specifically said, I didn't drive a car drunk and did not deal with the rest of them.
Clearly!
That means the rest of them are all about aliens.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
unidentified
Right?
jordan holmes
You don't want to direct the VA when you know there are raptor nurses out there.
How do you purge them?
dan friesen
Also, big shout out to Trump's rally that he had the other day.
Directly and overtly blackmailing a senator.
jordan holmes
What did he do?
dan friesen
I can't remember any of people's names.
Was it Tester?
Yes, I believe so.
jordan holmes
It was the Montana Democrat guy.
John Tester.
dan friesen
He's like, I know a lot about you, and if I said it, you'd never get elected again.
unidentified
Whoa!
That's crazy!
jordan holmes
Wait, he said that?
dan friesen
At his rally!
jordan holmes
But why isn't that...
God, we live in such an insane world.
Imagine if Obama was just like, Mitch McConnell...
You don't buck the fuck up, I'm gonna take you down.
Like, what are we talking about that that's not the only story?
Are you telling me that a fucking comic at a goddamn dumbass fucking dinner is the front page news, but Trump being like, hey, I am going to ruin your career if you don't do what I tell you to do?
The sitting president, the one that we elected, is now openly threatening senators with blackmailable employees.
dan friesen
I can't tell if it's parody anymore.
It very well could have been like...
All a trick.
Yeah.
Anthony Atamanik goes to Michigan and pretends he's Trump throwing a rally.
jordan holmes
He could probably do it.
dan friesen
Because he also said, Trump said, what was it?
If these immigrants keep coming in, you better be careful with your Second Amendment.
jordan holmes
I don't...
So now he's threatening all of...
dan friesen
I'm paraphrasing a little, but...
jordan holmes
But he's essentially threatening...
He's saying that regular citizens should kill immigrants.
dan friesen
But the blackmail stuff made me think, like, I think one of his advisors is Larry Nichols.
That's a Nichols-ian move.
jordan holmes
I'll take all the Republicans down.
And a Democrat, too.
dan friesen
So we're fucked.
I mean, like, the world is fucked.
Oh, yeah.
There's no way around it.
But!
jordan holmes
Even Mark Richards knows it's time to go.
dan friesen
Jordan, there's one hope.
There's one hope.
jordan holmes
Portals?
dan friesen
No, portals aren't going to come back up.
But there's one hope that we have for humanity to survive.
Yes.
jordan holmes
Letting Mark Richards out of jail.
dan friesen
No, I think he's right.
We've got to team up with the raptors.
kerry cassidy
He believes our only chance for survival is for us to align with the raptors and their princesses step forward and said she will defend us along with the fact that they have aligned themselves with us.
They also consider Earth to be their home world and are therefore in the game.
With us, regardless.
There are various threats, both Dracos and Reptoids, as well as spider beings, androids, and the AI.
There's a different AI group expanding, and there are four AI beings that are interested in our turf.
jordan holmes
Dave, Tad, Robert, Larry.
kerry cassidy
He also said they are interested in Jupiter and Saturn.
dan friesen
I'm interested in Saturn.
It's a crazy planet.
jordan holmes
Just interested.
Hey, we like our current home, but we are interested in diversifying.
And if there's something, you know, we do have some equity built up into this home.
And if there's something better that we could get for a reasonable price, say a Jupiter or a Saturn, we're going to go on planet hunters and we're going to figure this shit out.
dan friesen
If you're house hunting, you're not just going to look at one place.
Don't be stupid.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
Raptors are not stupid.
unidentified
No, that's why they're the raptor princess.
dan friesen
Right.
Cool.
jordan holmes
Could you say that one more time?
dan friesen
The raptor princess might be the one that's married to Mark Richards.
jordan holmes
I want to hear the words raptor princess one more time.
dan friesen
No, he's married to a Nordic alien.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Which, by the way, again, on the side of the Nazis.
dan friesen
No, that's the...
jordan holmes
The Nordics were on the side of the Nazis.
dan friesen
I thought there was the Dracos.
jordan holmes
No.
No, the Nordics were right up in there.
dan friesen
No, but that's the...
jordan holmes
I remember because the Nordics are traditionally white and they were right in there.
dan friesen
Shut it down.
Those are the Nordics from Aldabaron.
Because Nordic also includes the Pleiadians, the Lightbringers, and all this.
So there's good Nordics.
jordan holmes
You're right.
I apologize.
I was going to use that to further my proof that the raptors are actually evil and the reptoids are the ones we should align with.
However, now that I know that the Nordics are not all part of the New Berlinian movement.
dan friesen
Also, just to address a question in the chat room, yes, Jupiter is also hollow.
jordan holmes
It's a gas giant.
unidentified
By any definition, it's kind of hollow.
dan friesen
Bingo.
unidentified
Bingo.
laughter laughter laughter laughter laughter I'll see you next time.
jordan holmes
I mean, in a certain sense, if you want to go that far, at an atomic level, who amongst us is not hollow?
unidentified
I'm hollow.
jordan holmes
We are all hollow.
unidentified
We are all just electrical signals.
dan friesen
I'm like a chocolate Easter bunny.
At the low-rent dollar store.
jordan holmes
Oh, the bad ones.
unidentified
Yes, yes.
dan friesen
With all the bubbles.
unidentified
The hollow ones.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Chocolate keeps coming up.
jordan holmes
Very curious.
dan friesen
Got chocolate on the brain.
jordan holmes
You're strange.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, at the end of that, we learned that there's AI threats.
There's four AI groups.
jordan holmes
No, but we really learned that there's a raptor princess.
dan friesen
Well, you already knew that.
jordan holmes
No, I did not know there was a raptor princess.
dan friesen
They've talked about her before.
jordan holmes
I knew there was a queen.
I didn't know there was a princess.
dan friesen
You're going to learn so many more things.
jordan holmes
No movie idea!
Raptor Princess Diaries done on it.
Billions of dollars.
dan friesen
Made.
So we also learned that there's these AI groups that are, you know, evil and what have you.
That's one new group that we learned about.
Put your fucking mic down.
unidentified
Now, hold on.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Before we go any further, I just want to...
Explain to me exactly how we could have four different AI groups.
dan friesen
Let me tell you this.
I can't do it.
I don't know what the group part means either.
I have no idea.
unidentified
What does the group part mean?
dan friesen
No idea.
It's not explained.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So we've learned there's AI groups, and now there's a whole new thing.
jordan holmes
There's AI doctor groups as well.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
That's how you get the iodine.
jordan holmes
Got to trade with the new Berliners.
dan friesen
There is a new character.
Coming in.
jordan holmes
This is important.
dan friesen
We've never discussed this before.
This is wild.
I didn't know what to think when I heard her say these words.
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
kerry cassidy
If the AI want to take us out, they first have to deal with the gaseous creatures that are on Jupiter and Saturn.
And they guard the gates there and are dedicated to defend us.
They are friendly to all life, but see AI as the enemy.
Gaseous creatures have the ability to take out a whole fleet of incoming ships instantly.
And the way they defend us is by re-channeling local star energy to de-atomize the destructive AI or incoming ships.
dan friesen
Makes sense.
jordan holmes
Hold on.
dan friesen
Makes total sense.
jordan holmes
I really want that last bit written down one more time.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
So, they control...
dan friesen
The gates!
jordan holmes
The gates.
Well, of course.
The gaseous beings.
But that's fine.
unidentified
This is the glow cloud.
dan friesen
Welcome to Night Vale.
unidentified
All hail the glow cloud.
He apparently has a podcast machine, too.
jordan holmes
TV.
So they help us.
Now, they support all life, but suspiciously not artificial intelligent life.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Which, by any definition, would eventually have to consider itself life.
dan friesen
No, because they want a chompa-chompa on Earth.
We're going to find out in the next clip.
jordan holmes
Wait, the AI want to eat us?
dan friesen
They want to eat the Earth.
Let's just go ahead and deal with that clip.
jordan holmes
No, I want to deal with how the gaseous giants protect us.
dan friesen
They're not gas giants.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
dan friesen
They're gaseous creatures.
I apologize.
jordan holmes
So they re-channel.
Star energy.
To de-atomize...
dan friesen
Ships.
jordan holmes
Stuff.
dan friesen
And AI groups.
Yes.
I don't care.
unidentified
When?
dan friesen
I don't care.
jordan holmes
Are they like an Avengers situation?
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Do they have a certain threshold of what a crisis is?
Are they just sleeping?
What are we doing here?
dan friesen
They're friendly to all life.
They guard the gates.
unidentified
But not AI.
dan friesen
They guard the gates.
jordan holmes
Which gates?
dan friesen
The gates!
Benjamin Franklin Gates!
jordan holmes
Put capital letters on something that sounds true.
dan friesen
Yep, absolutely.
Especially when you gesticulate and yell it repeatedly.
Kind of makes it more real to you.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, absolutely.
I started seeing gates.
dan friesen
So, you've got to learn a little bit.
jordan holmes
I saw literal gates.
Like, they guard the literal gates of Jupiter where you are driving your spaceship up and you're like...
dan friesen
Bing bong!
jordan holmes
And you may welcome...
dan friesen
So we've got to learn a little bit more about these gaseous creatures.
jordan holmes
Okay.
kerry cassidy
He said most negative AI are based on mechanics and want to eat the planet, but can't because they're being stopped by the gaseous beings.
However, many are not based in mechanics and can take on any solid form.
dan friesen
Including people.
Anybody around you might be part of the AI group at any point.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but those are the...
Good ones?
dan friesen
We might be.
That might be what Carrie thinks.
jordan holmes
That could be.
dan friesen
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Could we know?
dan friesen
I couldn't prove it.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but that's technically true of any kind of consciousness.
dan friesen
You can't prove that we're in a simulation or not.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You can't prove that I'm not part of the gassiest being AI intersection?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
Lost track of words there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So they want to chompa-chompa the earth, and they can't because of the gaseous beings, which is a very, very good circumstance for us to be in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but do they have, like, a ceasefire treaty?
dan friesen
With whom?
jordan holmes
Because if the gaseous beings can just de-atomize whatever the fuck they want, they could conceivably just de-atomize the AI.
Entirely.
So why would they not do that if the AI's only stated goal is to chompa-chompa, in your words, the Earth?
dan friesen
Well, I don't think that's all the AI is up to, but I think it's in their bucket list.
It's in the bucket list.
Right, but until it gets to that item on the list, the gaseous beings, I think they're just like, hey, live and let live, baby.
You are still life.
jordan holmes
But in a kind of mutually assured destruction kind of way, they're not willing to go so far unless the line is crossed.
It's like the opposite of Barack's red line with Iran.
Or Syria.
dan friesen
A great point is being made in the chat room that often Jupiter and Saturn are on completely different sides of the universe.
jordan holmes
Not important.
You can still look at both of them for a place to live.
It's twice as far.
The commute is longer.
dan friesen
It's a disaster.
jordan holmes
It's a terrible commute.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There aren't enough podcasts.
dan friesen
So, you know how all the wars in our history have been really just aliens?
It turns out that almost...
jordan holmes
Nordics, spider beings.
dan friesen
Almost everything has been aliens fucking around.
jordan holmes
The whole thing.
dan friesen
Battles often are aliens.
And in this clip, I almost said Alex.
jordan holmes
Has any human being ever done anything?
dan friesen
Yeah, they've been fools at the whim of aliens.
Alien machinations.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
In this clip, Carrie talks about some boats that had some battles.
A Lusitania.
Let me tell you this.
One of the reasons that she's sure that it was aliens and it was a cover-up that they said there were sharks.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Quote, there aren't that many sharks.
unidentified
Listen to this shit.
kerry cassidy
I brought up several famous...
And he talked about those.
The sinking of Indianapolis in 1945.
There were men in the water.
There was an attack by sharks, which was actually a cover.
There are not that many sharks, he said.
And this was an alien race they were dealing with.
He didn't say which one.
dan friesen
Mark is a shark truther.
kerry cassidy
This was an alien race they were dealing with.
The Liberty is an attack.
jordan holmes
Nah, there's like five sharks.
kerry cassidy
The Liberty, which was an attack by Israel.
Our ship, the Liberty, was our key control center.
At the time we were vacillating between helping Egypt and helping Israel.
There were Anunnaki on the ship and Israel attacked.
jordan holmes
Hold up.
kerry cassidy
Apparently those Anunnaki came from Egypt.
And he said that he has a bad attitude towards the Anunnaki because he has had to fight them in the past and he doesn't like the way they view humans.
He doesn't trust them.
And this tends to color his perception of what we're dealing with.
dan friesen
So she's already admitting that he's biased.
jordan holmes
So he's a Anunnaki Israel 9-11 truther.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
That's essentially what's going on there.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
It was a thing, but it's not a thing, but Israel did the thing?
dan friesen
The Anunnaki, that's the ancient alien shit.
jordan holmes
There still aren't enough sharks for this, though.
dan friesen
No, not enough sharks for this story to check out.
It's so ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Too many sharks!
dan friesen
So, the Anunnaki, that comes from, like, Zachariah Sitchin and Eric Von Daniken and all that nonsense.
Just mistranslations of Sumerian texts and stuff like that.
But, dude, man.
This next clip was like, oh God, does she even know what she's fucking saying?
unidentified
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Why is he jumping into Israel?
No, no, no.
We're all over space.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But where does he just get into the...
Why?
But the thing I was asking myself is...
dan friesen
He hangs out with probably a neo-Nazi gang in prison.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
Pro-Palestine all the way, I assume.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Neo-Nazis, huge Palestinian fans.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
No, my question immediately was like, Going over all of the things that she is asking and having answered, why did she just come up with some random-ass battles to talk about?
dan friesen
Because this is the eighth visit.
jordan holmes
She's just running out of material?
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
She's just writing out.
She's just got a whiteboard.
Just boom.
What else do I want to know about?
dan friesen
Most likely.
Listen to this.
We've got to learn a little more about the Anunnaki, and it also accidentally turns deeply racist.
kerry cassidy
He said the Anunnaki get along with Draco and this makes their motives suspicious.
However, most Anunnaki are humanoid and fairly tall.
The ones here on Earth can pass as human.
You can tell an Anunnaki by the coloration in their skin.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
I'm going to still go with Conan O 'Brien.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
You can tell an Anunnaki by the coloration of their skin.
jordan holmes
Could be any color.
dan friesen
What do you mean, Mark?
jordan holmes
Could be any color.
dan friesen
We need a clarification, Mark.
jordan holmes
Could be any color.
dan friesen
Need a clarification, Mark.
jordan holmes
I mean, now, technically, white is the absence of color.
unidentified
That's not what he's saying.
dan friesen
You know damn well that's not what he's saying.
That is not what he's saying.
jordan holmes
No, it is not what he's saying.
dan friesen
That is...
So fucked up.
jordan holmes
Well, now, in his defense, they also have to be tall.
Which, as we all know, tall people and color...
Oh, no.
unidentified
I think...
jordan holmes
I think he's talking specifically about LeBron James.
dan friesen
You know how Carrie talks to him for like three hours and then these reports are her just reading stuff for like 40 minutes?
jordan holmes
Which, by the way, are we pencil or crayon today?
dan friesen
Pencil.
jordan holmes
She got pencil privileges back.
dan friesen
I'm just going to guess that some of the stuff she doesn't report back to Project Camelot is him saying some really fucked up racial shit.
Like some weird theories about Jews being descendants of aliens.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because that, I mean...
jordan holmes
But that's just too obvious for him.
dan friesen
Kind of.
jordan holmes
Everybody knows that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, that goes along with some of that, like, Hollow Earth stuff.
You can find right in there, holding hands, that worldview.
jordan holmes
Well, the Jews were the ones who dug it out in the first place.
Used to be all filled.
dan friesen
There was space...
jordan holmes
Space Jews.
dan friesen
Space group called the Hebrews came to Atlantis or Lemuria or some shit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Anyway, that's really fucked up, but it turns out that there's these Anunnaki, right?
There's a bunch of them in government.
kerry cassidy
There are many Anunnaki and reptoids in the Trump administration.
jordan holmes
Not that I've seen.
kerry cassidy
30 politicians are Anunnaki or alien of one kind or another.
Most of Congress are totally in the dark.
Some in the State Department know about the alien presence, and many more in the Pentagon are in the know.
I asked him about John Kerry.
Why?
And he said yes, he had always wondered about him.
He said he is probably an alien-human hybrid.
dan friesen
Cool.
Hold on.
kerry cassidy
And just making a note here that humans are a hybrid race.
In this case, we would have John Kerry would be what you might term a recent hybrid.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he's John Kerry's hybrid.
I don't know why you're shocked and confused or delighted.
I can't tell what that response was.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I think all?
I think all of the above?
dan friesen
I told you, there's a lot going on.
jordan holmes
Why didn't she ask about John Kerry?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
How do you have any conversation in 2018 that eventually leads to John Kerry?
What is he even doing right now?
dan friesen
He's hanging out.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
John Kerry.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
What is he doing right now?
dan friesen
I don't know.
He's not in the Senate anymore.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He's not in the cabinet.
Why were you talking about John?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
All right.
So you're talking about Kerry.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Now, why is then your next question about a man who is utterly irrelevant to 2018?
Why is your next question then...
So you think he's a hybrid?
dan friesen
Of course.
You'll bet.
That's his answer for everything, probably.
jordan holmes
And then her response is, well, humans are already hybrids.
And then he goes, ah, ha, ha, ha.
unidentified
Recent.
jordan holmes
Recent hybrid.
dan friesen
You got me there, Mark.
unidentified
You fool.
dan friesen
Well played.
Well played, Mark.
jordan holmes
You're not going to trust me?
dan friesen
So, look, dude.
I've had chocolate on the brain.
And thankfully, chocolate comes back up.
And we get to learn, why do the Raptors love chocolate so much?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, it seems obvious, but I guess there's more to learn.
dan friesen
First, it's delicious.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the second is this.
kerry cassidy
We talked about the role of chocolate.
Mark talked about the focus of other races on our chocolate.
He said there's nothing like it on other planets.
If you study chocolate, the cocoa plant, we still don't know how it pollinates.
jordan holmes
What do you mean you don't know how it pollinates?
dan friesen
No, no, she said we don't.
jordan holmes
We don't know how it pollinates.
dan friesen
I do.
unidentified
It seems we've been growing it for a long time.
dan friesen
It's little flies, it turns out.
unidentified
We're just randomly hoping for chocolate?
dan friesen
You can Google that.
Scientists are pretty aware of how it works.
jordan holmes
Does she bring up the European versus American chocolate?
dan friesen
Belgian.
There's a lot of raptors in Belgium.
You should know that.
kerry cassidy
It may be a semi-invisible mite.
dan friesen
It's not.
kerry cassidy
It is not an ant or a bee.
dan friesen
No, it's a fly.
kerry cassidy
It is very difficult to take the cocoa plant to another planet to get it to grow.
jordan holmes
That I believe.
That one, I'm actually...
You know what?
You got me.
dan friesen
I imagine that's true of all plants.
jordan holmes
I know.
I'm right there with you.
dan friesen
Most of them require water.
kerry cassidy
Aliens are not coming here for gold or minerals or water, he says.
There is plenty of gold on asteroids.
Aliens come here for the things we make, luxury items, antiques, things of beauty, and obviously our genetic code.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
They like antiques!
jordan holmes
And there's two things I know.
unidentified
How do you know an Onanaki?
jordan holmes
Color of their skin.
How do you know a raptor?
Antiques Roadshow.
Favorite show, Antiques Roadshow.
They come here for our antiques!
unidentified
It's something that's all 50 years old!
jordan holmes
They come here for our antiques!
unidentified
A raptor crosses the universe to get an armoire.
dan friesen
Get a decorative plate from 1920.
unidentified
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on.
jordan holmes
Are you telling me this coin is from 1910?
That makes the whole trip worth it, my friend.
dan friesen
That's amazing.
That is so amazing.
unidentified
They're like antiques.
dan friesen
And also, if you're looking at that list of things that she's talking about, gold fits in.
They like things of beauty.
It kind of describes gold.
jordan holmes
Antiques.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
What happens when they go to Ren Fairs?
Do they lose their minds?
Do they believe it's real?
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Do they even know?
I mean, what is more antique than a Renfick?
dan friesen
And they're used to time traveling.
Of course.
And so they could just assume, uh-oh.
jordan holmes
Also, if you are used to time traveling, doesn't the very concept of an antique become ridiculous?
dan friesen
See, now that's a problem.
jordan holmes
Because you can always go to the time where the thing was made.
So an antique is in of itself non-existent any further because it is always existing in the same present moment.
dan friesen
See, that's a problem for Mark's logic.
Certainly.
But you need, before we judge too harshly, in this next clip we're going to get a little bit of a backstory going for the Raptors and how they've come to exist in the present, as they do.
kerry cassidy
The Raptors know more than we do, not because they're smarter, but because they are a space-faring race that has been around for over 65 million years.
dan friesen
Hey, real quick, where is that number from?
Jurassic Park?
The tagline to Jurassic Park was, a movie 65 million years in the making.
jordan holmes
Dead on.
Dead on.
unidentified
Weird.
dan friesen
Weird.
Coincidence.
jordan holmes
Also, by the way, previous Brack story of the Raptors is they actually met the Raptors from 65 million years ago.
So they were already a space-faring race whenever they found our Raptors, who they then...
Herded as cattle.
dan friesen
Yes, they were ranching.
jordan holmes
And then raised others up to be soldiers, I assume.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Timeline issues.
jordan holmes
So we're in trouble.
dan friesen
Yeah.
kerry cassidy
65 million years ago, they left Earth and went on a journey into a wormhole.
jordan holmes
But they came to Earth.
kerry cassidy
And they went into some sort of suspended animation.
It's not clear.
and returned to the galaxies a few million years ago, established a home in the great Draco galaxy at that time.
Black hole, son!
It caused them to slip into an event horizon, and then they returned.
So there was a time gap there.
The planet they settled on in the Draco galaxy belonged to the Draco, and when they took it over, they became enemies of the Draco, and they are at war with the Draco now.
jordan holmes
Right.
Like that McConaughey and what vehicle?
dan friesen
Event Horizon, I think was the name of the movie.
jordan holmes
No, it wasn't Event Horizon.
It was McConaughey and what's-his-face, who is actually a good actor.
dan friesen
Deep Impact?
jordan holmes
No, still wrong.
dan friesen
Two-word movie titles.
jordan holmes
No, it's a dragon movie.
It's about dragons.
dan friesen
Dragonheart?
jordan holmes
Probably.
That was Sean Connery.
dan friesen
That is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
I mean, that story makes sense.
jordan holmes
Do you know what's crazy?
dan friesen
Huh?
jordan holmes
That actually does fill in some of the plot holes.
dan friesen
It doesn't.
jordan holmes
It does!
If they're in suspended animation, that does fill in some of the plot holes.
It doesn't fill in all of them.
dan friesen
How the fuck did they get off the Earth 65 million years ago?
jordan holmes
That's not important.
It's not that they're smarter than us, it's that they are a space-faring race.
dan friesen
I'm being told the movie we're thinking of is Reign of Fire.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Nailed it.
So what this is...
Okay, let's think of it this way.
dan friesen
I'm getting a second source telling me it's Reign of Fire.
jordan holmes
Confirm.
dan friesen
This is so dumb.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
No, don't fucking try.
Don't do this.
jordan holmes
If the raptors are not smarter than us, and yet at the same time are a space-faring race, I propose a kind of Polynesian situation, wherein...
They can travel across great distances through relatively simple structures.
dan friesen
Be very careful.
You're going to offend our Polynesian friends.
jordan holmes
I'm not!
Defending Polynesians.
It's because they are capable sailors that they could travel from.
dan friesen
But they're too stupid to make good boats.
jordan holmes
No, that's not what I'm saying.
God damn it.
I'm saying that at the time their technology was relatively simple and yet at the same time sturdy enough for them to cross oceans.
dan friesen
Did you just watch Moana?
jordan holmes
I did not.
I watched it a few months ago.
dan friesen
Fair.
jordan holmes
But that's what I'm saying!
Also, actually, it's more I played Civilization V. Whenever Polynesia gets a bonus where they can always travel across ocean tiles, even though you haven't developed the technology yet.
dan friesen
Shut it, Sid Meier!
jordan holmes
Sorry!
dan friesen
Look, the thing is, whatever analogy you're trying to make is oompous-bompous.
And here's why.
jordan holmes
Sounds right.
dan friesen
Getting off the planet is different than making a boat.
jordan holmes
Now that sounds like a compelling argument.
dan friesen
Especially if you're a dinosaur.
jordan holmes
How do you know how fast they can run?
dan friesen
Oh, you think they ran into space?
jordan holmes
88 miles per hour.
unidentified
Okay, then oxygen's gonna come into it.
jordan holmes
Dinosaurs don't breathe oxygen.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
That was proven.
dan friesen
So, the raptors are good.
According to Mark.
And the Dracos are generally bad.
jordan holmes
Right.
Even though, from his own admission, the raptors colonized one of Draco's planets, disregarding the fact that there were native peoples living there.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I think Mark is really bad.
I think any ally that Mark suggests that he has is actually evil.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
But here's something about the Dracos.
Turns out maybe not all of them are bad.
jordan holmes
I think Mark Richards is gaslighting us about...
Fiction!
dan friesen
Yes, I think so too.
kerry cassidy
So the raptors fully believe there are some good Dracos, but the raptors and humans are diametrically opposed to the Draco agenda, which involves takeover and domination.
dan friesen
I got bad news for you about humans.
jordan holmes
That is somehow racist to me.
That is such a raptor concept of like...
dan friesen
That's a raptor concept.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, okay.
All right.
It's the same thing as your grandma saying, oh, well, yeah, but they're one of the good ones.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Like, that's a racist idea wrapped up in raptors.
dan friesen
Yeah, more or less.
But at the same time, like, okay, so the Dracos...
They want to conquer things.
And humans and raptors aren't into that, but...
jordan holmes
No, we're not.
dan friesen
Every bit of human history would beg to differ.
jordan holmes
No, that's because we were influenced by the Dracos.
dan friesen
Every bit of human history would cough politely.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
No thank you, sir.
dan friesen
So, um...
jordan holmes
Proxy wars between the raptors and the reptoids.
Spider beings?
Every now and then.
dan friesen
So you know how...
jordan holmes
They mostly keep to themselves and the New Berliners.
dan friesen
So you know how we just learned that there are gaseous beings in play?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And last time we learned ant beings are in play and we already knew about the spiders and what have you.
jordan holmes
Just ants.
Could just be ants.
dan friesen
In this next clip we learn about a whole new group of aliens.
But before we do, we learn something damning about the First Lady of the United States.
jordan holmes
Why bring her in?
dan friesen
I don't want to give away too much, but she's not a human.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but that's obvious.
kerry cassidy
Trump, we talked about Trump, and he says he is controlled by aliens.
He went from being a mediocre millionaire in four years to being mega rich.
His wife is a biological creation that operates as his direct link to an alien race.
She is his communication device.
He wouldn't say which alien race, and it is not the cat beings.
And later on in this discussion, I'll talk a bit about the cat beings and so on.
dan friesen
It's not the cat beings.
unidentified
It's not the heretofore unmentioned cat beings.
dan friesen
It's not the cat beings.
Trump...
jordan holmes
Again, just cats.
Could just be cats.
dan friesen
Trump has a wife that is a biological creation that he uses as a communication device with aliens.
Don't know which ones, but it ain't cats.
jordan holmes
Now, let me tell you something right now.
Is there a better explanation for why she will not always hold his hand?
What is that but a man calling and them hanging up on him?
dan friesen
Perhaps.
jordan holmes
You see what I'm saying?
Connection wasn't made.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's simple.
It's simple.
It's definitely not that they're in a loveless marriage based on money and power.
It has nothing to do with that.
dan friesen
And I know that it doesn't have anything to do with the cat beings.
jordan holmes
I have still not ruled that out.
I think Mark Richards is an unreliable narrator in this situation.
Perhaps he's providing cover for the cat beings.
dan friesen
I have it on good authority from my friend Kerry, who knows a guy named Mark, that it's not the cat beings.
We're going to learn about them here in a little bit.
But first, Carrie asks him about the wildfires in California.
jordan holmes
Why?
Where does the conversation get onto that track?
dan friesen
Well, it's good that she did, because the truth about it is pretty wild.
kerry cassidy
Fires in Northern and Southern California.
The fires in Northern California were basically a group of juvenile alien races who decided to party.
By coming here and devouring humans.
dan friesen
Ah, okay.
jordan holmes
So, also, this brings in the wrinkle of a North-South Civil War forest fire situation here.
dan friesen
Now, she goes on to say, I don't know what happened with the South.
She has no idea about the South fires.
But the North fires were an alien prank.
jordan holmes
Why does one get an explanation and the other is just...
It's a mystery.
dan friesen
Mark was tired.
jordan holmes
Who knows why this other one's happened?
dan friesen
See, that's one...
jordan holmes
Look, I can't know everything.
dan friesen
But see, that's one of the things that makes me clear that he's either telling the fucking truth or he is a super accomplished manipulator.
Because if he was just sort of an amateur con man, he would have an answer for everything.
Instead, he's like, I don't know about that one.
jordan holmes
Oh, you gotta allow yourself to...
To appear vulnerable in order for the person to...
dan friesen
There's a salability about you.
Yeah, absolutely.
Man, I'll tell you what.
I love it.
Fires were an alien prank.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They just came to party and eat humans.
dan friesen
Back to the cat people.
unidentified
So...
Carrie...
jordan holmes
Yes, back...
Not cat people.
We don't know that they're people.
They're cat beings.
dan friesen
Hold off on your judgments.
Carrie was just in Egypt, and you know there's a lot of cat people there.
A lot of cat importance.
jordan holmes
It could be why it happened to be on her brain at the time.
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
It could be that perhaps she gave him a very leading question of...
Is the president-in-law the first lady being controlled by cat beings?
dan friesen
Not the cat beings.
jordan holmes
Ah, okay.
Because I just went to Egypt and I know cats are pretty important there.
dan friesen
Mark does tell her about the Sphinx and how there used to be multiple ones and they were cats.
They're cat people.
jordan holmes
They were cats or they were real?
dan friesen
No, they weren't real as much as they were statues and all.
There were still statues and shit.
jordan holmes
Weren't there multiple ones?
dan friesen
I think that is correct, yeah.
I don't remember.
It's been a long time since I've looked into it.
jordan holmes
Verify.
dan friesen
There's another influence that maybe Mark's been watching movies.
We'll see.
This is crazy.
kerry cassidy
The remaining Sphinx has now a human head carved from the cat head and his...
Contact on this is a Black Panther cat being called Contessa.
dan friesen
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Mark knows a Black Panther cat being named Contessa.
jordan holmes
Mark also asked her if she was on 10 yet.
Power girl!
Power girl!
dan friesen
That's a lot to take in.
He's hanging out with a Black Panther cat being named Contessa.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Chorus.
Chorus.
dan friesen
Love it.
Can't get enough.
Can't get enough.
jordan holmes
She's from the land of...
dan friesen
Wakanda?
jordan holmes
No, Kanda.
dan friesen
Meow Kanda.
jordan holmes
All right.
Plus one points for that.
dan friesen
This is so stupid.
At a certain point, it really feels like Mark Richards might be fucking with her.
jordan holmes
No, he's always been fucking with her.
But he might be trying to get caught.
But now he's really going for it.
dan friesen
He might be seeing like...
jordan holmes
How far can I push this?
dan friesen
I fucking know Black Panther people.
Or maybe this is just his way of trying to rationalize a rumble that he had with a black gang in prison with his white gang.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And the Black Panther is how his brain...
I don't know.
I'm trying to...
I'm over-exegesis-ing this.
It's unnecessary.
jordan holmes
Might be.
dan friesen
Anyway, there's cat people.
Also...
jordan holmes
Michael B. Jordan was great in that Egyptian fight.
dan friesen
He played Contessa.
Yeah.
So, you know, recently...
jordan holmes
Contessa monger.
dan friesen
Recently, sir.
The international community has decided, and, you know, they...
I have good reason to believe that Vladimir Putin attacked a spy in London, I believe.
jordan holmes
Wasn't it in London?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But, get this.
She wasn't Putin.
It was aliens.
kerry cassidy
Regarding the Salisbury attack.
He said the fascists, Reptoids, and Draco went a week in the U.S., Russia, and Britain, and so the aliens continue to pit them against each other.
He says Putin is not messy.
He kills lots of people, but with precision.
The collateral damage indicates that the Salisbury attack was carried out by British or the aliens.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
Wide swath there.
Either the British...
Or any number of alien races that I've brought up.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, but at the same time, she is the Black Dragon Queen.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So, could be all.
dan friesen
No, England is under the sway of the Black Dragon Queen.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I assume that's a Draco in disguise.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
So, of course.
dan friesen
I don't think it's not a literal dragon.
jordan holmes
Is there any difference between the British and the aliens at this point, Dan?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Prove that to me.
dan friesen
No, of course not.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
Why do they have tea time, little cucumber sandwiches?
unidentified
Get the fuck out of here.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's definitely alien.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
The only explanation.
dan friesen
You call fries chips?
Get the fuck out of here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, come on.
Get the fuck back to your own planet.
dan friesen
Get the fuck out of here, Draco.
jordan holmes
Come on.
Go on, Planet Hunters.
Or...
The show about fish tanks.
That would also be an acceptable one.
Tanked, I believe is what it's called.
dan friesen
I'm going to skip this next clip because it's not really all that great.
It's just Mark...
Saying that he's trying to stop North Korea and China from killing millions of people.
jordan holmes
Himself?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He's leaking information.
jordan holmes
With a portal?
dan friesen
He's leaking information to carry in order to stop a war that will kill millions of people.
jordan holmes
God, I really feel if there is a war coming that will kill millions of people and you have both the information necessary to stop it and access to portals.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You could probably do a little bit more than kind of leak it.
dan friesen
Or just hang out with a weird lady.
jordan holmes
That could help.
dan friesen
It doesn't even have access to a pen.
So now we learn more about this Contessa character, the Black Panther cat being.
She's got some interesting quirks.
unidentified
All right.
kerry cassidy
We talked about the cat beings and Contessa Leone, the Black Panther being that...
I had mentioned earlier.
He said he's written about her in his writings, which are available at the Earth Defense Headquarters site.
jordan holmes
Uh, uh, uh, Dan?
dan friesen
Guess who immediately went to that website?
jordan holmes
Dan?
dan friesen
Yes, sir?
jordan holmes
What did you just say to me?
dan friesen
Um, here's the problem.
There's nothing...
jordan holmes
It's thomas.loc.gov, which is a reference to an episode that no one will ever know.
Goddammit, that was a great...
dan friesen
I'm gonna say it again.
I went to the website, and it's crazy.
Like, his wife has made a straight-up 501c3 nonprofit organization.
jordan holmes
Oh, yes.
dan friesen
And, oh my god, I've got to pull up the site.
They claim to have...
jordan holmes
Hold the fucking phone.
dan friesen
They claim to have the original copy of The Golden Bough.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, like, the book.
Not the mythical object.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Because that would be a big find.
dan friesen
That would be huge.
Yeah.
What's the other thing that they've got?
I mean, it's crazy that they put together an organization at all.
jordan holmes
God, I think they're...
You know, as much as we can make fun of them, I'll be goddamned if these people don't try and follow through on their shit.
dan friesen
They're enterprising.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
We wouldn't make a 501c3.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
We don't even know how.
I don't even know what that means.
dan friesen
If you go to the website, the Earth Defense League, you'll find that the executive director is Joanne Richards, his wife.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And there's a board of directors, which blew my mind.
jordan holmes
Wait.
dan friesen
One of them is named Dr. Julian Salt.
jordan holmes
Love him.
dan friesen
And I googled him, and it turns out that he's been on Project Camelot.
Doing an interview about how much he loves Mark Richards.
And I was about to be like, well, fuck it, we're doing that episode tonight too.
But I listened to like maybe 15 minutes of it and he is a boring ass dude.
Then I looked further down the list and one of the people on the board of directors is Lou Wagner.
I was like, what?
The guy from Chips?
It's like a character actor.
jordan holmes
Wait, is it the guy from Chips?
unidentified
I don't know!
dan friesen
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
There's no way to follow up on Lou Wagner?
dan friesen
I'd have to send them an email or something.
But, like, I don't know.
It very well could be Lou.
jordan holmes
Draft that email for me right now.
dan friesen
I mean, he's still alive.
He's 69 years old.
Could very well.
jordan holmes
Excuse me, guys.
So, Lou Wagner on your board of director.
dan friesen
How about that?
jordan holmes
Guy from Chips?
Guy from Chips.
Guy from Chips?
Is he the guy from Chips?
dan friesen
Is that...
Did you swing the guy from Chips?
jordan holmes
Could you guys?
He's a good get.
He's a good get.
dan friesen
There's absolutely no doubt about that.
I'm trying to find the exact page that I was on earlier.
So you can go here to the website.
I was hoping I'd find just rambling blogs and stuff like that, but it's all for sale.
They're just selling all his writings and stuff.
So for like 40 bucks, you can learn about what happened at Hamilton Air Force Base in the summer of 1952.
jordan holmes
For how much?
dan friesen
40 bucks.
jordan holmes
How long is this?
dan friesen
It actually has the page count here.
40 bucks.
That one's 384 pages.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's not bad.
I would take that in a hardback.
40 bucks for a hardback makes sense.
PDF file?
No, thank you.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
How dare you?
dan friesen
I don't know if it's that.
jordan holmes
And it's probably written...
Well, no.
He would write it in pen, and then she would transcribe it, of course.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's torture.
That's torture.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
To write down 300-some-odd pages of bullshit, and then ask your wife...
dan friesen
Sell it.
jordan holmes
To type it.
dan friesen
So, it's the Earth Defense Headquarters, but as a part and parcel of that is Dragon Hill Research Center.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
You can apply to be a researcher at, which I might do.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you need to.
dan friesen
You need to.
It's in San Anselmo, California, and it's apparently in a castle.
Or, I'm sorry, a castle-like setting.
unidentified
No.
No.
jordan holmes
I feel like the moment you need to make that distinction, you might as well stop.
dan friesen
They got a lot of books and a lot of research going on.
unidentified
Of course, of course.
dan friesen
There's an extensive collection on Wicca, mythical, in quotes, because they're fucking real, creatures such as dragons and fairies, history, modern military history, space and environmental issues.
The Research Center is proud to own the Parliament Rolls of Medieval England, covering 1272 to 1504 and several volumes of The Golden Bough.
Yeah.
Crazy.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Crazy.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Crazy.
I want to go there.
jordan holmes
I kind of think the saddest thing is that they probably have a better science department than most Christian universities.
dan friesen
Maybe.
I want to go there.
jordan holmes
I want to go there, too.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
So anyway.
jordan holmes
Could we get in?
I don't know if my transcripts are good enough, Dan.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I dropped out of college.
dan friesen
This clip isn't done.
He still has to talk about the Black Panther lady.
unidentified
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
But I just wanted to quickly tell you all a little bit about Earth Defense Headquarters.
kerry cassidy
Okay.
That's maintained by his wife, Joanne Richards, and I highly recommend that as a great place to get more of his writings.
But he says that the cat beings are not at this time openly assisting humans, that there are four different cat races in contact, and that at the moment they're detached from human affairs.
Mark's only contact with cat beings, however, is through the Contessa, the Black Panther being.
She loves luxury items and has lots of kittens.
And they stand upright.
dan friesen
Okay.
Cool.
We got two-leg standing kittens.
She likes luxury items and has lots of kittens.
unidentified
This makes me really sad.
jordan holmes
This one's thin.
This one's thin.
I've been loving all of this so far, but this one's lazy.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
This is lazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Come on.
Yeah.
I demand better.
dan friesen
I demand...
jordan holmes
Four different cat races?
dan friesen
Sure, why not?
jordan holmes
Four different cat alien races.
dan friesen
I don't give a shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure.
Tabby.
dan friesen
Tabby.
Black Panther.
jordan holmes
Black Panther.
dan friesen
Ocelot.
jordan holmes
Ocelot?
dan friesen
Ocelot alaikum.
That's how you treat each other.
jordan holmes
Negative one point.
dan friesen
How dare you.
unidentified
Negative one.
dan friesen
How dare you.
jordan holmes
Negative one.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I just...
I don't know how you can't just like...
Be like, Mark!
Come on.
This is ridiculous.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, even Carrie has to be like, do some punch-up, man.
dan friesen
Come on.
jordan holmes
Give me a little bit more to work with than that.
Give me more than four cat species just not giving a fuck, i.e., just like cats.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, like, it's four cat species who are essentially cats.
You know, they're cats.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
But they stand up right.
jordan holmes
Look, you go around the universe, cat's a cat, man.
Cats have been around for at least 65 million years.
Yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
For sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, if you wanted him to give, his next clip, he's giving.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
It turns out we learn a little bit more about the Dutchman, his dad, in his next clip.
It turns out he, and a very famous person, had a bit of a disagreement in the past.
jordan holmes
Thomas Jefferson?
kerry cassidy
He said Carl Sagan and Mark's dad, the Dutchman, had an argument over the Voyager disc that went out into space.
Basically, Mark and his father considered it gambling with our lives.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Aliens are already here!
dan friesen
Neighbors.
jordan holmes
Sorry.
dan friesen
Neighbors.
jordan holmes
Aliens are already here.
And it does not matter if you send the Voyager out.
Right.
The Voyager didn't go far enough to deal with aliens coming from different galaxies.
The Voyager can't possibly go far enough.
There's no way for the Voyager to go far enough.
dan friesen
Aliens were involved in World War II.
jordan holmes
Aliens were involved in...
dan friesen
It predates any space travel.
unidentified
Not.
jordan holmes
Does it?
dan friesen
Not the raptors in the 65 million years ago.
jordan holmes
Sagan was there.
dan friesen
Sagan, man.
I love it.
I mean, Carl Sagan's dead now, so we can't confirm or deny this story about the Dutchman.
jordan holmes
Lizardman species?
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Sahagan.
Or Sahagan?
Whichever it is you...
There's a mythological species of, I think, amphibious humanoid Sahagans.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, they're researching them at the Dragon Hill Research Center.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
DRC.
jordan holmes
Now.
dan friesen
You know me.
jordan holmes
Shorten it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Shorten it.
Sagan.
dan friesen
Sagan.
He's a fucking reptoid.
jordan holmes
He's a fucking reptoid.
dan friesen
Son of a bitch.
jordan holmes
I knew it the whole time.
unidentified
Oh my god.
jordan holmes
That blue dot speech, he wanted to eat that dot.
He wanted to eat that fucking dot, Sagan!
unidentified
Sagan!
dan friesen
So, this whole exercise pushes the realm of credulity way too far.
jordan holmes
It goes a bit.
dan friesen
It's a bit much.
The idea that carries us going along with all of this is wild.
But we do reach one point here towards the end.
jordan holmes
How do you wind up on a conversation?
How do you wind up going from a...
Aliens love antiques.
dan friesen
Right.
That's the biggest takeaway.
jordan holmes
To Onanaki, I'm a racist.
To, you know, my dad and Carl Sagan got into a fight one time.
dan friesen
You know why?
Because he's a 60-year-old dude who's been in prison for 30 years and he probably just rambles.
He's probably like your grandpa.
I don't know your grandpa.
jordan holmes
He's dead.
dan friesen
We miss him.
Not really.
The stereotypical grandpa is just like, I tell you about the time of World War II, I punched a Nazi, or the next second he's talking about, I don't like soup.
I'm sure Mark Richards is the same kind of dude.
jordan holmes
No, clearly he's lost his mind.
dan friesen
I love to hang out with cat people who like luxury items, and they walk upright.
Also, Anunnaki's have different colored skin.
jordan holmes
And I don't like them.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Not because of that.
dan friesen
They're sketchy.
jordan holmes
But you know them because of that.
dan friesen
You can't trust them because they work with Draco, who are into conquering things, and humans are against that, except for all the times we've conquered things, but that's just because of lizards.
jordan holmes
Now, he did not specifically say that the Anunnaki were evil.
Intrinsically.
dan friesen
He does everything but.
jordan holmes
He is saying that he can't trust them because they do work with those other people.
dan friesen
And he's fought them in the past.
jordan holmes
Which says, to a certain extent, they're a possible friend.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I disagree.
But in this next clip...
Carrie reaches the point where she's even a little skeptical.
jordan holmes
Even she is like, I don't know.
dan friesen
She's not.
She still thinks he is a fucking captain in the literal secret space program that saves the world and he's been framed for a murder he didn't commit.
It's stuck in a prison that he could get out of with raptor portals and he loves his wife too much and that's why he stays in a prison.
jordan holmes
All of this track so far.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
But apparently we learn a little something about mantis beings.
jordan holmes
He's just naming any insect that was in his cell that day.
dan friesen
So we learn about mantis beings, and carry a slightly different information than him about the mantis beings.
kerry cassidy
Regarding mantids and raptors, he said they are now aligned with humans.
jordan holmes
Good.
kerry cassidy
And that's very interesting, and we need to talk more about that and get to drill down there, especially with regard to the mantids.
dan friesen
Why, though?
jordan holmes
Especially with regard to it.
dan friesen
But why?
Here's why.
kerry cassidy
There's some recent information from a remote viewing by Brett Stewart, and I'm going to be talking to Simon Parks about that in an interview quite soon.
dan friesen
So some guy remote viewed something and learned about mantis beings in a way.
unidentified
He learned something that contradicts what Mark Richards is saying, so we've got to talk.
dan friesen
We've got to really nail this down.
jordan holmes
Here's what I just found out about myself.
It somehow makes me way more depressed when she has to deal with two sources disagreeing with each other.
dan friesen
I get exhausted.
jordan holmes
Because then you're like, oh, now you're entering a whole new...
If you're just being conned by one con man, that happens.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
If you're being conned by two con men at cross purposes, like a Michael Caine movie...
dan friesen
Well, and she's conning everybody, too.
Because while she was not posting up all these videos, she got on her...
jordan holmes
Oh, this is exactly like the Michael Caine movie, then.
dan friesen
She got on all of her social media accounts and everything, was going crazy, saying, like, I'm being censored because we're talking about this real shit.
And in reality, she had a lunatic on who was saying that every tragedy in the world is fake and going through a laundry list of false proof of all of this shit.
And so her channel got a strike because rightfully someone complained.
And so she wasn't allowed to stream anymore.
That doesn't mean she can't post stuff.
And she was saying that her livelihood was being taken away from her.
And I'm here to tell you, this is a 40-minute long video.
There's like five commercials in it, like throughout.
She's heavily monetized in terms of the videos.
And they didn't take that away.
She's still making bank off these videos.
Because if you consider she has like 190,000 followers or something like that.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah, on YouTube.
jordan holmes
How do you get that many if you're her?
dan friesen
A lot of them are fake, probably.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And then, man, it's fun.
jordan holmes
It is fun.
It is fun.
dan friesen
It's fun to listen to this crazy bullshit.
jordan holmes
I could definitely get high and listen to this by myself.
dan friesen
I think you would get bored of the ones that aren't Mark Richards and stuff.
Yeah, clearly.
jordan holmes
I just got bummed out that there was another guy and that he sucked.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert.
Speaking of remote viewing...
jordan holmes
Again, somehow remote viewing bummed me out more than Mark Richards' bullshit.
I'm like, look, time travel, portals, all of these, why not?
Remote viewing?
That's too far.
dan friesen
Well, I think it's because it's getting too specific.
Like, with Mark Richards, it's never really established how are you talking to these raptors while you've been in prison for 30 years?
Is it in your dreams?
jordan holmes
Hidden.
dan friesen
I don't understand.
jordan holmes
Secret.
dan friesen
Are they invisible raptors?
jordan holmes
Portals.
They come at night when nobody else is awake.
dan friesen
They only come out at night.
They're man-eaters.
jordan holmes
Plus one point.
Plus one point.
dan friesen
That's what Hollow Notes we're talking about.
jordan holmes
Raptors.
dan friesen
That's why they have that lyric in there.
They see you.
unidentified
What's going on?
jordan holmes
Hollow Notes have been in on it.
Along with the guy from Chips.
unidentified
Lou.
dan friesen
Sweet Lou Wagner.
I do fucking hope it's the same guy.
unidentified
I really do.
jordan holmes
I really do.
That way we can put all this Kanye shit behind us and really dig into what the fuck is going on with Lou Wagner.
dan friesen
I think Lou Wagner has a website.
You might have a contact thing on there.
I'm going to send him an email.
jordan holmes
Please.
dan friesen
We've got to get to the bottom of this.
Anyway, we have one more clip here where, once again, Mark Richards explains...
jordan holmes
If Lou Wagner is on Twitter and our policy walks...
Just inundate him with like...
dan friesen
See if we can get him on the show.
jordan holmes
How do you feel about the Earth Defense League?
Would be a delight.
dan friesen
Are you on the board of directors?
Because someone with your name is...
So we have one more clip.
Like I said, it is just Mark being like, I am never getting out of prison.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
She keeps trying to have, like, well, what about this?
What about...
Trump's in office.
Maybe he could help get you out of prison.
We already know that he thinks that Trump is controlled by aliens.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But there's another reason.
jordan holmes
In the form of Melania, specifically.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Wait!
jordan holmes
But hold on.
Now, if Melania is an alien control bot...
dan friesen
Not a control bot.
A communication bot.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
dan friesen
It's like C-3PO.
jordan holmes
Right.
What about the kid?
What about Baron?
dan friesen
Baron?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
What about Baron?
dan friesen
Cat being.
No, it's not the cat people.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Ant.
jordan holmes
Or is it a cat plant to make it look like it's not the cat beings?
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
But they gotta have their own diplomatic spy in there in order to make sure that they are keeping up with the latest.
I can't.
I don't know.
How could Baron possibly fit into this if Melania is a biological creation?
dan friesen
You dumb fuck.
Alien phones can get pregnant.
unidentified
Alien phones can get pregnant.
jordan holmes
You know, Dan, before I met you, the sentence, alien phones can get pregnant would never have occurred to anybody in my life.
dan friesen
Especially prefaced by, you dumb fuck.
unidentified
Of course!
jordan holmes
Of course!
It's too obvious, is what it is.
dan friesen
It's offensive that you don't know that.
So anyway, here's the next clip where it's really just Mark Richard slamming shut that prison door behind him.
kerry cassidy
I asked him whether he thought Trump would release Mark.
He said, no, Trump is scared to death of what Mark and his friends the Raptors are capable of.
Mark admits to scaring those in power.
His contacts make him a very real threat to their way of life.
jordan holmes
Right.
kerry cassidy
And that is the end of this interview.
dan friesen
You know what the problem is?
Trump's got a lot of antiques.
I don't know.
So stupid.
jordan holmes
Honestly, that's been my problem with him all along.
dan friesen
Too many antiques.
jordan holmes
Too many antiques.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
This is one of the ones that, like...
jordan holmes
Oh, so good.
dan friesen
There's so much going on.
Like, he realized that the narrative's getting a little stale.
I've got to interject new characters.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, it's like in season two of Heroes.
You've got to add some new blood in there.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Some new characters.
So now we've got cat beings.
We've got Contessa.
jordan holmes
And he saw...
Look, he hasn't seen...
dan friesen
We've got gaseous beings.
jordan holmes
He hasn't seen Black Panther, but he has seen the news in which they said that Black Panther was the highest grossing Marvel movie.
dan friesen
The biggest thing in the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there you go.
So he's got to throw in some...
Black Panther right there.
dan friesen
Mysteriously, raptors have exactly the same timeline as Jurassic Park.
jordan holmes
Strange.
dan friesen
Very bizarre.
jordan holmes
Also, they can run 88 miles per hour, and that gets them off planet.
dan friesen
88 point...
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
Also, he's telling a story about parallel Earths that is mysteriously close to the plot of a show on Starz.
jordan holmes
It's not a bad show.
J.K. Simmons is great.
unidentified
Hey!
jordan holmes
I like J.K. Simmons.
dan friesen
He's great.
jordan holmes
It's got the asshole from season one of Game of Thrones on it.
Guy who gets the golden helmet.
dan friesen
Here's what I want to do.
I don't want to talk about that.
Makes me sad.
Here's what I want to talk about.
I want to talk about, right at the beginning, how I think that she was talking about us, possibly.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And what I would like to do...
jordan holmes
I want to bring this back to a more narcissistic place.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
Because I want to do an experiment.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I would like...
To throw this out there, Mark Richards, if you're listening, don't tell Carrie about this.
jordan holmes
She won't be able to visit you for a good six months.
dan friesen
The next time she comes to visit, we gotta give him something to tell her.
unidentified
We gotta see if he's really this bored.
dan friesen
If he wants to engage with us.
jordan holmes
Via proxy.
dan friesen
I mean, it's gotta be a new race of aliens.
I would assume.
jordan holmes
Can it just be like, oh, I had to bring a crayon today because all of the pencils in this prison were burned.
dan friesen
No, because that could be a coincidence.
And it could be an alien prank.
unidentified
It's true.
dan friesen
Juvenile alien racist.
jordan holmes
It's true.
dan friesen
I mean, one option is just...
jordan holmes
It's way better than if they caused another forest fire.
dan friesen
One option is Mark could just yell, like, Baba Booey at her over and over again, or something like that.
jordan holmes
I really don't want that to be the case.
dan friesen
I think that would be a little too overt.
jordan holmes
I think we gotta put our brand on there.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Oh!
Oh!
Nailed it!
Sent you trees?
No, no, no, no.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Cat people?
Send him a bucket of poop.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Ah, come on.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's perfect.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's perfect.
dan friesen
No, not good.
Not good.
jordan holmes
How dare you.
dan friesen
Tree people.
How say you want tree people?
jordan holmes
Just tree people?
dan friesen
Like the ants.
jordan holmes
Just tree people?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The ants?
dan friesen
Like Groot?
jordan holmes
See, I feel like the ants could be a coincidence, though.
They've already covered all of the bug species that are popular.
You got your mantids.
You got your spiders.
You got your ant beings.
dan friesen
You don't have a cockroach.
jordan holmes
You got your giant bugs, though.
You got your giant beetles that they...
dan friesen
Oh, you got the beetle beings in Vietnam.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
That's true.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I like living in a world where we're both like, oh, well, of course you got the beetle beings from Vietnam.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
As they say, that's close enough for jazz with the cockroach.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
So then you got your lizard species, and he's already got dragons.
He's already got raptors.
He's already got reptoids, which covers the whole rest of them.
dan friesen
And it would be boring to do, like, gorilla people, because that's just people.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, that's just people.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We're like bonobo people.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Whales?
jordan holmes
We could do whales.
We don't have any fish species yet.
dan friesen
We don't have any aquatics.
jordan holmes
We don't have any aquatics.
dan friesen
Mark.
jordan holmes
Mark, we gotta bring the aquatics into this.
dan friesen
Squid people.
jordan holmes
Squid people.
Absolutely squid people.
dan friesen
They're nice, they're helpful, but they will shoot you with some fucking ink.
jordan holmes
Super smart.
They can get in and out of everywhere.
unidentified
They're not that smart.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
No, they're super smart.
Have you seen the YouTube videos?
dan friesen
That's an octopus.
jordan holmes
The octopus getting out of the thing and then crawling and then doing the thing and then it gets back in the thing.
dan friesen
Octopus ain't no squid.
jordan holmes
Super smart.
dan friesen
It's not a squid.
jordan holmes
They're the same thing.
dan friesen
Now, dolphins would be super smart.
jordan holmes
Dolphins are already super smart.
dan friesen
But dolphin people, that's not that fun.
jordan holmes
No, that's Douglas Adams.
dan friesen
You need squids.
jordan holmes
So long and thanks for all the fish.
dan friesen
Squid, octopus, possibilities.
Mark, work with it.
jordan holmes
Also, no, no, no.
Cuttlefish.
Because they're within the same family, but they are perfect at camouflage.
dan friesen
California sunfish.
They're giant and ugly.
jordan holmes
I don't know what a California sunfish is.
dan friesen
It's that weird one that's like really flat and tall, but also has like an eye on the side of its head.
unidentified
It's gross.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, okay.
dan friesen
Freakish looking.
jordan holmes
It looks like a saw.
dan friesen
Whale is cool.
Too big.
Squid.
Squid or octopus, Mark?
jordan holmes
Squid or octopus.
dan friesen
Your call.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Your call.
That is how we will know.
Ooh, Far Out has a good one.
California Raisin People.
jordan holmes
I like California Raisin People.
dan friesen
I would argue that's just the California Raisins.
jordan holmes
No, but they don't have to sing.
That could be a misconception about that.
dan friesen
So, Mark, if you are hearing us and you want to signal to us from the outside that you're hip to what's going on.
jordan holmes
Squid People.
dan friesen
Or tell the raptors to hit your boy up.
You know?
I'm around.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
I could use a portal.
jordan holmes
We would never take money from Soros, but I'll be goddamned if I'm not going to take some money from raptors.
dan friesen
I'm going to have to eat all this chocolate on the off chance they show up.
jordan holmes
Oh, you've got to do it so fast.
You can't have those M&Ms anymore.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Those are done for you.
dan friesen
You've got to eat them all real quick.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
But then they probably want to cut me open and take it out of me.
jordan holmes
No, that's not how that works.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
They like it fresh.
Frozen?
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
Anyway, this is a load of hot bullshit.
But it's been fun.
jordan holmes
It's so good.
dan friesen
We'll be back to Alex Jones' business soon.
jordan holmes
This genuinely should not delight me still.
And it never doesn't.
dan friesen
It's hard not to.
jordan holmes
It's so great.
dan friesen
Well, I'll say this.
He's more creative than Alex.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
So he keeps coming up with new fucked up things and doesn't forget these little other things like, why is the chocolate so special?
He's like, well, it's a mystery.
We don't even know how they pollinate.
Yeah, we do.
So he keeps up the old stuff, brings the old stuff back to mind while introducing new stuff in a way that's compelling.
jordan holmes
Do you know what I find fascinating about it?
And I think this might be my favorite part, is unlike your other sequels, Where, you know, you keep escalating things and it feels bloated.
You know, like Spider-Man 3. You know, there's like eight villains and none of them are interesting and everybody's fighting.
dan friesen
I feel you.
jordan holmes
There's all this shit going on and you lose the real heart of the character.
He goes the opposite direction.
Instead of pairing it back and kind of focusing on the heart of the character.
He goes so far into the let's make it the most bloated.
Let's go from random ass thing to random ass thing.
We're just jumping from subject to subject.
We're on a breakneck pace.
This is fucking the Mad Max Fury Road of alien conspiracy theories.
dan friesen
Undoubtedly.
jordan holmes
This is a non-stop action-packed car chase.
dan friesen
It's like every Fast and Furious movie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is like every Fast and Furious movie.
dan friesen
But...
With ant men.
unidentified
Ant people.
jordan holmes
You can't prove that they weren't in there.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
You can't prove a raptor wasn't in there.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, in the Fate of the Furious, they go to Antarctica!
Done.
dan friesen
Crazy.
jordan holmes
Done.
dan friesen
Anyway, our website is knowledgefight.com.
You can check that out if you want to find more of the show.
We'll be back to Alex Jones stuff.
jordan holmes
You can follow us at Twitter.
dan friesen
We'll be back to Alex Jones stuff soon.
And again, sorry that the last episode got messed up.
I mean, who cares?
It's sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we can't really apologize.
dan friesen
And we can't redo it.
jordan holmes
We lament it.
dan friesen
And we can't redo it.
That's why I did the little tiny episode.
jordan holmes
It's such a frustrating aspect of our show that it's impossible to...
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Recreate.
It's like if improv were real.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, real improv, or like, you know, the improv that you see in places, they're doing the same shit.
dan friesen
Anyway, our Twitter handle is at knowledge underscore fight.
Tell Lou Wagner to hit us up.
jordan holmes
Please.
Yes.
Yes.
We would take a Chips autograph.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Sign a picture of Lou Wagner with a...
dan friesen
You can even sign it as Ponch.
I don't give a shit.
I don't give a shit.
jordan holmes
I want Lou Wagner.
dan friesen
Yeah.
We also are on Facebook.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
You can join the group.
Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
dan friesen
It's wonderful.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I was going to say stuff and times.
I accidentally said stimes.
We're also on iTunes.
jordan holmes
What are we on?
dan friesen
iTunes.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
People can subscribe.
Please subscribe.
jordan holmes
Yeah, leave a review.
dan friesen
That'd be great.
jordan holmes
That's how their algorithm works, probably.
dan friesen
That's what I'm told.
But I got to say, I'm prepared for the end of this episode.
I think there's only one person.
From all the stuff that we talked about today that deserves the honors at the end of this episode.
jordan holmes
You better not say Lou Wagner.
dan friesen
Son of a bitch.
Carl Sagan, go fuck yourself.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding.
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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