#155: January 7-9, 2009
Today, Dan tells Jordan about how different a man Alex Jones was in 2009. To be fair, there were a lot of similarities, but this dude is not 2018 Alex. Enjoy Jordan going on a damn roller coaster
April 27, 2018 - Knowledge Fight
02:03:42
Participants
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| Speaker | Time | Text |
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
|
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Dan, if you were trying to explain this show to one of our many... | ||
| Utterly useless Democratic senators. | ||
| Oh, jeez. | ||
| The ones who are fucking awful. | ||
| You're on the warpath today. | ||
| Who are just murderously terrible in every possible fucking way. | ||
| Dan, how would you explain this show to these incompetent, moronic monsters that we have elected to lead us? | ||
| Well, first I would say a podcast is like a radio show. | ||
| That's a good start because they're all fucking old and stupid. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That would be the first step. | ||
| That's a good way to go. | ||
| And then past that I would just describe it the way I describe it today. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
|
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Fuck you. | |
| Fuck you. | ||
| Right off the bat. | ||
| Come on, that was your tone dip. | ||
| It was. | ||
| You did it. | ||
| I was trying to put a little jazz on it. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Trying to put a little English into the mix. | ||
| You did? | ||
| Yeah, it was great. | ||
| That's show business. | ||
| I would say that I know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| I don't know anything about Alex Jones. | ||
| That's a perfect summation of the show. | ||
| And we would do a better job at your stupid fucking gig, you idiots. | ||
| Oh, you dumb, dumb politicians. | ||
| I hate them so much! | ||
| Very ineffectual. | ||
| Fuck you, Nancy Pelosi! | ||
| You're garbage! | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| That's alright. | ||
| Sometimes you gotta let that steam vent go and get a little bit of a... | ||
| Fucking awful. | ||
| I understand, man. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| She's so useless. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we're going to be going into the past. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| The present is great, Dan. | ||
| I don't even know why we would talk about the present. | ||
| Things are too good. | ||
| It's boring. | ||
| So, for those people who have been following our escapades in the recent present... | ||
| Time frame? | ||
| Yeah, with going back to the past. | ||
| We've gone back to June. | ||
| We're going down to... | ||
| I'm going back to June 2009 before. | ||
| That's what I have been doing. | ||
| And I picked that arbitrarily, sort of, to some extent, because the episodes I was listening in 2008 are not great. | ||
| And they're unusable. | ||
| But I realized that maybe we should go back... | ||
| June might not be the best place to start. | ||
| Let's go back to the beginning of the year. | ||
| Spoiler alert! | ||
| Buddy reminded me that... | ||
| Something happened in January of 2009 that would be very interesting to get Alex Jones' take on it. | ||
| The inauguration of Barack Obama? | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, that should be coming up, yes, but it's not that specifically. | ||
| It's something that we're going to run into, and we're going to be... | ||
| We'll deal with it as we go through this episode. | ||
| Today's episode is January 7th through 9th of 2009. | ||
| You're going to be going on a very interesting rollercoaster today, because there's a lot of stuff that I discovered. | ||
| Looking into 2009, Alex, that you aren't ready for. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But there are some familiar pieces, and here's an out-of-context drop that's sort of familiar. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| Those beautiful mammary glands. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Dan, I think you may have forgotten some business to do up top. | ||
| No, I just wanted to get the out-of-context drop out of the way. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm just saying. | ||
| I wanted to give a flavor of the things to come, and then now I would like... | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Beautiful mammary glands. | ||
|
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Tits. | |
| After that, he starts laughing. | ||
| He's like, the guys in the booth like that one. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Yeesh. | ||
| There's no way he was a... | ||
| Guilty of the sexual assault lawsuit that he's- The EOC complaint? | ||
| The sexual harassment complaint. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no chance. | ||
| So, before we get into the show, very important that we give some shout-outs to donors. | ||
| I want to say, just big picture, we recently crossed the 100 donor mark. | ||
| No shit! | ||
| 100 plus policy wonks out there. | ||
| That's fucking crazy. | ||
| It is nuts. | ||
| When we started this show, I didn't think there would be 10. I didn't think there would be five, quite frankly. | ||
| And now we're at a point where we're over 100. | ||
| Well, you had some people from your former show, and I kind of assumed we would have gotten rid of them entirely. | ||
| We did lose a number of them. | ||
| Well, I assumed we would have lost all of them, and no one would have ever jumped back on board. | ||
| Very reasonably, we lost comedian Tommy McNamara's mom, who donated to my show. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
|
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We gotta talk to Tommy Mac. | |
| I mean, it's just so great. | ||
| We're at a place where this show is going to be able to allow me to live much more stably. | ||
| And we appreciate it so much. | ||
| Everybody, it's life-changing levels of support. | ||
| And I really, really, really appreciate it. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| I don't have to buy you cigarettes anymore. | ||
| Well, we'll see about that. | ||
|
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What? | |
| We'll see about that. | ||
| What? | ||
| You're going to need some more policy walks. | ||
| Please feel the... | ||
| The love and appreciation in every time we play these drops. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It's from the heart. | ||
| It's pure, pure beauty. | ||
| So first I'd like to give a shout out to new policy wonk, Mark. | ||
| What's going on out there, Mark? | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much, Mark. | ||
| Mark! | ||
| How do they let you donate from jail? | ||
| Who are you talking about? | ||
| He loves our shows about him. | ||
| He just loves... | ||
|
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Oh, it's Richards? | |
| Yeah! | ||
| It's Raptor Man, Mark Richards? | ||
| He just loves hearing about himself. | ||
| That's what it's really all about. | ||
| Thank you, Mark Richards. | ||
| Oh, that's very nice. | ||
| You are a murderer, but that is very kind of you. | ||
| That's very sweet. | ||
| Also... | ||
| We do take donations from murderers, so if you have murdered, do not feel... | ||
| Unlike voting, you are still able to donate to our show. | ||
| This one is not something... | ||
| You can jazz on. | ||
| Is it the BTK Killer? | ||
| No. | ||
| This one I know, and I'm going to give a specific shout-out to. | ||
| This dude's a great rapper, and he's on the road right now with our friend Far Out. | ||
| No shit! | ||
| I think they're still on the road. | ||
| I'm really bad at remembering dates, but they had a tour of the Northeast. | ||
| Big shout-out. | ||
| Thank you so much for supporting the show, i9. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Really appreciate it. | ||
| Thank you so very much. | ||
| Got some great music out there. | ||
| Everyone should go check out. | ||
| Also, next. | ||
| Also, there are just no names to play off if your name is I9. | ||
| There's no other... | ||
| That's going to be tough. | ||
| Give a shout-out to someone who's coming in as a globalist. | ||
| Bump their donation up as a globalist. | ||
| Shout-out, and thank you so much, John. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
|
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. | ||
| Hey, thank you very much. | ||
| I believe this is John Wick, if I recall correctly. | ||
| He doesn't like killing dogs. | ||
| He does not like dogs getting killed in any form. | ||
| I was going to say John Arbuckle. | ||
| John Arbuckle? | ||
| You always go real people. | ||
| Wait, you didn't this time. | ||
| No, that was not. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| Wait, you can't use John Wick. | ||
| That's someone's alias who already has donated. | ||
|
unidentified
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That's what I'm saying. | |
| I thought this guy bumped his donation up. | ||
| I thought this was the guy who earlier I referenced as being John Wick. | ||
| If someone has an obvious gnome de plume, I'm going to just go ahead and use it. | ||
| I just don't want to put people's business on the streets if they use their real name. | ||
| Oh, no, that's right, because we did have a guy who donated as John Wick. | ||
| That's what I was saying. | ||
| Well, now I've messed it up. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| I quit. | ||
| Finally, one more shout-out. | ||
| This is a very special shout-out. | ||
| This gentleman was in town last weekend, and we had a very nice time hanging out with him and his girlfriend. | ||
| It was a blast meeting him, and we really appreciate it. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Jim, you are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
|
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you so much, Jim. | ||
| Thank you so much, Jim. | ||
| And you and your significant other were absolutely fantastic to talk to. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Very, very brilliant people. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Always a thrill when we get to meet folks. | ||
| It's a treat for us, I believe. | ||
| I believe that's fair to say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we're super excited to meet a bunch of folks down in Austin. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| When we're down there in June. | ||
| That'll be most of the thrill, I think. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| The show will be secondary to just... | ||
|
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No. | |
| Every time we meet people, there's a part of me that's like, I didn't think you were real. | ||
| I kind of assumed this is more of an elaborate scam that you are perpetrating on me in order to get me to... | ||
| That psychological study idea. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Like, somehow I have cancer or something, and you're just trying to make my last days as exciting as possible. | ||
| You're like, look, our fan base is growing! | ||
| There's nobody actually listening. | ||
| Why does it have to be an either-or? | ||
| I don't understand why it's got to be a dichotomy. | ||
| That's a fair point. | ||
| I do not disagree. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| I'm emotionally overwhelmed, and the only thing you can do in situations like that is just keep on moving forward. | ||
| So we're going to keep on moving forward with the show, and let's get to it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we start on January 7th of 2009. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And let me say something to you. | ||
| This first clip is going to blow your goddamn mind. | ||
| All right. | ||
| This is what Alex starts out the show talking about, and he spends most of the show talking about this. | ||
| You would never expect these kinds of things to come out of Alex Jones' mouth in 2018 or 2015, anywhere that we've looked into him. | ||
| And that brings me to San Francisco. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I'm going to get into this later in the broadcast, once we go live at PrisonPlanet.tv, because I want to show the clips. | ||
| The witnesses were all saying that they took the black men off the train. | ||
| There had been a report of people yelling and screaming at each other and arguing on the train. | ||
| And that they then were putting them in handcuffs and that the man wasn't resisting and that they shot him in the back. | ||
| And the police, and we have their first press conferences, said, no, that's not true. | ||
| And then they use this weird lawyer speak to say, there was an altercation, an argument, and then one of the officers shot him. | ||
| Now, with legalese speak, he's talking about the argument on the train between the men that had the police respond, but psychologically, and they do this on the news too, in the newscast later, They're sandwiching that in with, oh, he did something, an altercation with police. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| It shouldn't be. | ||
| But it is a huge deal to hear Alex Jones coming out against the shooting of black people. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That is, it should not be, it shouldn't even be a conversation. | ||
| There should never have been a question. | ||
|
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It's nuts. | |
| It should have just been like, we should all be like, hey, cops are murdering black people specifically. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is a bad thing. | ||
| Now Alex would be like, eh, they probably had it coming. | ||
| But back then that he's against it, where did this Alex go? | ||
| When I turned this on and when I was listening to this episode and he said that, I gasped. | ||
| I know! | ||
| It shouldn't matter! | ||
| I almost fainted. | ||
| It shouldn't be a generational thing. | ||
| It shouldn't be every decade he decides which fucking group of people is fine for the cops to shoot. | ||
| Dear Lord. | ||
| Imagine if this had continued. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So what he's referring to is there's a guy by the name of Oscar Grant who was out partying, I assume, because it was on New Year's Eve. | ||
| It was about 2 a.m. on New Year's Day, 2009. | ||
| And there were reports that there was some fighting. | ||
| On a BART train in San Francisco. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And, you know, the details are murky in terms of the specifics of it, but who cares? | ||
| The long and short of it are that the cops tried to arrest this guy. | ||
| They had him down on the ground with a knee to his back. | ||
| Not a knee to his back, but they were trying to handcuff him. | ||
| As I understand it, I've looked into this, and from what I understand, they were trying to handcuff him, but they couldn't get his hands right. | ||
| So he wasn't in handcuffs when they shot him, which is a meaningless point to me. | ||
| But the cop shot him in the back, and then he died on the way to the station. | ||
| And there were some obviously understandable protests afterwards. | ||
| The cop did get in trouble, from what I recall. | ||
| I believe he did end up getting... | ||
| He at least resigned. | ||
| Let me see, because I think I have the details here. | ||
| Somehow that was a better time? | ||
| Christ. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I mean, at least he had some sort of punishment for it, I guess. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| That's all fucked up. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And I believe, what, was it today or yesterday that Alabama put up a monument to the victims of lynchings? | ||
| Yeah, it's a good thing that's over. | ||
| It's a good thing we don't have to worry about state-sponsored murders. | ||
| So apparently in July of 2010, a jury found the cop, Johannes Mersley, guilty of involuntary manslaughter and not guilty of charges of second-degree murder or voluntary manslaughter. | ||
| So that's not great. | ||
| They also found him guilty of gun enhancement charge that could have added 10 years to his sentence. | ||
| Made him ineligible for probation and required him to serve 85% of his sentence. | ||
| So that's not great. | ||
| He's taking super gun vitality? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's not great, but in terms of the end results we see of so many of these shootings with cops, at least there was something. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Which is not good enough. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| It's all bad. | ||
| But the weirdest part about this is that Alex is against the cops and in favor of the... | ||
| Murder victim, Oscar Grant. | ||
| Although he refuses to say his name. | ||
| That is kind of weird. | ||
| Well, but if you're going to, you don't want to say his name. | ||
| That humanizes him. | ||
| What you're trying to do is... | ||
| I'm hearing from the chat room that the case was thrown out. | ||
| I don't know if that's the case. | ||
| What? | ||
| I'm operating on incomplete. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| That might be the case. | ||
| I'm operating on incomplete information about the end turnout of this. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| Thanks, chat room. | ||
| Yeah, bumming. | ||
| Thanks for bumming me out still further. | ||
| What's more important, though, is that Alex is kind of clearly assessing the situation. | ||
| He's dealing with it in a much more real way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, I read the message in the chat room wrong. | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Alright, well then I'm back to happy again, I guess. | ||
| Is that what was going on? | ||
| I don't believe I was ever happy. | ||
| I think that just changed my disappointment and sadness levels from about yay high to about yay low. | ||
| I'm going to stop responding to messages I don't fully understand. | ||
| Probably a good idea. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| So, you know, Alex is against it. | ||
| He's against the shooting. | ||
| He's against the cops. | ||
| Good boy, Alex. | ||
| He goes on to say this. | ||
| It's not even the issue that they murder this guy. | ||
| No, that is a big issue. | ||
| It's that they make excuses now that the videos have come out and are saying, well, he thought it was his taser. | ||
| It was taser confusion. | ||
| May have been. | ||
| The issue here, though, is that they lied. | ||
| The police officials with the transit authority lied about it. | ||
| And they need to go to jail. | ||
| So, first of all, that is... | ||
| The end point is good. | ||
| I don't know how to deal with that sentence. | ||
| I told you. | ||
| I don't even understand. | ||
| I don't understand how that sentence can... | ||
| What? | ||
| The issue isn't that they murdered the guy. | ||
| Well, first of all, that's kind of like, it's not that you cheated on me, it's that you lied about it. | ||
| That trope. | ||
| That's very weird. | ||
| But then, like, that sentence, I think, is fairly philosophically consistent with what Alex pretends to be. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Like, he's giving credit or leeway to some extent, but still being like, you need to go to prison. | ||
| You lied about shooting a guy. | ||
| Yeah, but the issue there is that it almost seems like more his response, had they just been like, oh yeah, we murdered that guy, he would have been like, well, see? | ||
| No. | ||
| Good for them! | ||
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I don't think so. | |
| Like, if they had just told the joke, or what would he prefer the outcome be? | ||
| That they apologize? | ||
| No, because then if they took responsibility for it, then he would be mad if they didn't get the direct consequences of admitting, oh, we killed this guy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which they won't get. | ||
| All this is really to illustrate, and this clip's not done, but all this is to illustrate is that Alex is fucking anti-cop in 2009. | ||
| He's all over the place. | ||
| He does not like cops. | ||
| No. | ||
| But slightly pro-murder. | ||
| I'm not even so much focused on the... | ||
| Police officer, clearly in a frenzy, who pulls his gun out, aims at the man's back, and kills him. | ||
| Because you can see the police officer's response where he drops his hand with a gun and starts cussing, going, what the hell? | ||
| What the hell just happened? | ||
| I believe he probably did think it was his taser. | ||
| And I'm trying to be fair here. | ||
| I don't, because I, quote, hate cops just then go, no, he clearly killed him in cold blood and meant to do it. | ||
| That could be the case. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| But the way he reacted after he killed the guy, after he shot the poor man who did nothing wrong, looks like he was shocked. | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| You still need to go to jail for manslaughter. | ||
| You need to spend a few years in prison. | ||
| You killed somebody. | ||
| Their life is over. | ||
| They did nothing wrong. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| This is crazy from, like, such a departure. | ||
| This is nuts. | ||
| We've been doing this show for a long time now. | ||
| Almost a year and a half now. | ||
| That is crazy! | ||
| Very much so. | ||
| That's the first time I've been genuinely shocked in a good long while. | ||
| I am legitimately... | ||
| Because there's no part of it where he's trying to blame the globalists. | ||
| I know! | ||
| There's no part of it where he's saying he's fake, or the thing is fake, or anything like that. | ||
| And he's not even asserting anything wildly. | ||
| He's even leaving it open. | ||
| He's like... | ||
| We don't know the facts for sure. | ||
| What we do know is that this man was killed illegally and this man should go to prison for it. | ||
| There's no like... | ||
| I know he murdered that guy. | ||
| There's no, I know he didn't murder that guy. | ||
| There's no, like, it's all a globalist plot to trick us into thinking he murdered that guy, and that guy isn't even actually murdered. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's nothing. | ||
| It's just him with a measured, reasonable response. | ||
| Now, it is like maybe giving too far of a birth, too wide of a birth to be like, you know, I believe that he might have thought it was the taser, but this is where he's operating from now. | ||
| It's still within what I would describe as... | ||
| The acceptable realm of conversation. | ||
| I kind of agree. | ||
| It's a kind of conversation that you can have. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| Yeah, and then get this. | ||
| The issue is, studying police agencies, they lie more often than they tell the truth. | ||
| No. | ||
| In fact, sometimes even when the truth suits them, they lie. | ||
| It is a culture of lying and deceit, and I'm tired of it. | ||
| What? | ||
| I'm fucking hyperventilating, Dan. | ||
| Cops are liars. | ||
| It's a culture of lying. | ||
| It is! | ||
| Right. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| It's wild. | ||
| Now, I am starting to believe in the globalists. | ||
| Because now, it is very clear that some shadowy organization... | ||
| Murdered Alex Jones, who at this time perhaps was Bill Hicks. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then replaced him with the monster that we see now as controlled opposition to make sure that his insanity is ignored. | ||
| It's an interesting possibility, I'd say. | ||
| I'd say Occam's razor would tell. | ||
| Cops probably killed him. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Occam's razor would tell me. | ||
| That he just started taking a bunch of his own supplements and went crazy. | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's very difficult for me to figure out, like, because this is a huge curveball. | ||
| And to see, like... | ||
| Yeah, that's wild. | ||
| How does this evolve into the guy we know now? | ||
| Like, this is... | ||
| Again, I disagree with... | ||
| I disagree with this as even of this. | ||
| This guy screamed about Colin Kaepernick for months. | ||
| Months. | ||
| For months. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And all he did was just kneel on the field. | ||
| In protest of a thing that Alex in 2009 is super aware as a problem. | ||
| Super aware as an issue! | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And is advocating for jail time! | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Yep. | ||
| This is bananas. | ||
| If you want to... | ||
| This is unprecedented. | ||
| If you want to become even more sympathetic to him... | ||
| No. | ||
| Listen to this next clip. | ||
| No. | ||
| All right, this is all it is, isn't it? | ||
| You're just going to play the intro music. | ||
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I'm waiting for the clip to do that. | |
| I'm going to chase the sky forever. | ||
| *laughs* | ||
| And the sun is gonna burn into a cinder. | ||
| Still going, huh? | ||
| And we're going to ride. | ||
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And we're going to ride. | |
| We're going to ride. | ||
|
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We're going to ride. | |
| Ride like the one-eyed jack of diamonds. | ||
| Ride like the one-eyed jack of diamonds. | ||
| With the devil who's so behind. | ||
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We're going to ride. | |
| Analyst predicts 40% unemployment, no recovery. | ||
| Weird transition. | ||
| Are those the next lyrics in the song? | ||
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No. | |
| Willie Nelson doesn't come in with that verse? | ||
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No. | |
| No. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| That's like... | ||
| That's unbelievable to me. | ||
| Because, again, it just goes back to that, like, he fucking loves good country. | ||
| He loves the highwaymen. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I'm confused. | ||
| I'm out of my game. | ||
| That pivot is professional level. | ||
| Singing along to, we're gonna ride to analysts to predict 40% unemployment. | ||
| I'm having a great time. | ||
| Now I don't want to scare you. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| I don't know what to do. | ||
| I'm so confused. | ||
| I feel like we've started all over again. | ||
| We have. | ||
| And I have to rewire all of my hatred for Alex Jones knowing full well that in the past he was less of a piece of shit. | ||
| He's still a piece of shit. | ||
| We've done episodes in this time period before, but this is bananas. | ||
| Well, there's a lot of stuff, and I don't have a lot of clips of these, but there's a lot of stuff that you can trace. | ||
| Literal. | ||
| Parallels from back then to now. | ||
| There's catchphrases that he's using nine years ago and still using now. | ||
| The alternative media is coming up and the mainstream media's ratings are down. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He has a philosophy of if someone's being attacked, that probably means they're right, which is consistent all throughout this time frame. | ||
| So there's a lot of things that are really common. | ||
| But yeah, I think what you're more going to have to wrestle with is you know the future. | ||
| Yeah, this isn't great. | ||
| Because you can't look at this guy without knowing what ends up happening. | ||
| I know! | ||
| You've read the end of the story. | ||
| This is baby Hitler all over again. | ||
| To some extent. | ||
| Whenever I went back in time and hung out with baby Hitler for a while. | ||
| He was very cute. | ||
| So that's it for January 7th. | ||
| Now we get on to January 8th. | ||
| Nothing else happened? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| No, I mean, it did. | ||
| What else was it? | ||
| How does he just show up in that little spot and that's all you have from January 7th? | ||
| Was there any context to that? | ||
| No, most of it's really boring. | ||
| He talks a lot more about... | ||
| I know it's really boring. | ||
| I just want, like, some kind of... | ||
| How did this... | ||
| Now that this is a mystery all over again to me... | ||
| Have you watched Endgame with me? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's a lot of that. | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| He talks about the Trans-Texas Corridor, that road that they're really mad about. | ||
| Highways. | ||
| And about how, like, hey, they're pretending it's stopped, but it's not. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| He has an interview with a guy named Eric Plumlee, no relation to Tosh Plumlee. | ||
| What about Mason Plumlee? | ||
| Nope, not in there. | ||
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All right. | |
| He has an interview with him, and he wants it to be an interview about, like, the government surveilling you and stuff like that. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Well, no, but Eric Plumlee is a surveiller. | ||
| Yeah, he's a P.I. lawyer, isn't he? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So the interview doesn't go really far, because every time he tries to talk about bigger picture stuff, Eric Plumlee is kind of like... | ||
| That's outside of my purview. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| He has an interview with Ray McGovern, who used to be involved in the daily briefings for Reagan and stuff like that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not really all that substantial. | ||
| It's just kind of... | ||
| Endgame stuff. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm just trying to get a fuller picture of this man who I have never met before in my entire life. | ||
| It's a lot of endgame stuff, and then this very weird position on this shooting of an innocent man. | ||
| How long did he talk about it for a long time, or was it just like, I'm going to drop in, give you my thoughts, going to get right back into that road. | ||
| I hate roads. | ||
| No, I would say it's a good half hour, at least, of the show. | ||
| Maybe even more dedicated to this. | ||
| But again, there's less empathy for the victim than you want. | ||
| Well, he doesn't have empathy. | ||
| That I understand. | ||
| And more anger at the cops. | ||
| I'm happier with that! | ||
| It's a road in, at least. | ||
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Right. | |
| Which is very, very strange and not like anything we've ever seen from Alex. | ||
| And it gets even weirder. | ||
| This is such an alternate universe right now. | ||
| January 8th gets even weirder. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Listen to this shit. | ||
| And now I've seen more of this officer's body language up close, and he looks like he's completely... | ||
| Out of his mind. | ||
| He's resigned from the force, and now the police are saying, well, we're no longer involved in this because he's resigned, so now it's not our issue, and now Eternal Affairs isn't investigating. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| So if a cop murders somebody, either capital murder, premeditated, or whether it's manslaughter, whether it's accidental, and I think clearly it's pointing towards capital murder now, this guy's a lunatic. | ||
| I mean, I could see him getting off on an insanity plea, maybe. | ||
| Because you watch, he pulls the gun out, he sights it, and you know the difference between a black, what looks like a Glock or Heckler& Koch, classic, standard issue handgun. | ||
| Looks like 9mm,.40 cal, something along those lines. | ||
| We don't know yet. | ||
| They've kept that secret. | ||
| And he sights it. | ||
| Holds the shot for about two seconds and shoots the guy in the back. | ||
| Now, I'd said maybe it was taser confusion, but now watching him from a closer video angle off somebody's cell phone camera, he looks like a vampiric demon or something. | ||
| He looks like Bela Lugosi. | ||
| His eyes are completely crazed. | ||
| He looks like a lunatic. | ||
| So that's not great, but at least the point is right. | ||
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You know, like, you take this satanic demon stuff out of it. | |
| Now, that reminds me of the Alex Jones I know. | ||
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Sure. | |
| At the very least, he's not a human being. | ||
| He's a literal demon. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which, again... | ||
| It's a little cowardly in terms of, like, not allowing humans to take responsibility for their actions and shit like that. | ||
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Right. | |
| But at least, like, the point is right, that he watched another video and you can see him citing it. | ||
| And that means that he knew it wasn't a taser. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So that's the point behind what he's trying to say. | ||
| And it's like... | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| I don't... | ||
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That's crazy. | |
| Pretty nuts. | ||
| The idea of Alex Jones revising his theories based on new information, that alone is crazy. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I don't get this. | ||
| That is super nuts. | ||
| He didn't even double down on his... | ||
| Yeah, he grew. | ||
| Well, he got crazier with it. | ||
| He modified. | ||
| But he did. | ||
| His narrative didn't become more... | ||
| Concrete. | ||
| It only got shaken and his beliefs changed based upon that. | ||
| I can't process this information. | ||
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No. | |
| Alex is not doubling down. | ||
| The only Alex I know and understand is the Alex who doubles down and the Alex who waffles like a little bitch. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Those are the only two I know. | ||
| The Alex who learns. | ||
| Yeah, cries. | ||
| Cries. | ||
| Yell cries. | ||
| Cries. | ||
| Drunks. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Gets drunk. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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So... | |
| This position that he's taken on the shooting is really wild. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then, in the aftermath of the shooting, obviously there were a bunch of protests. | ||
| And people were rightly mad about the situation. | ||
| Now we get back to status quo Alex Jones. | ||
| He's definitely against these protests, right? | ||
| Well, in present day, he'd be super against them. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Protest over BART's shooting turned violent, San Francisco Chronicle. | ||
| I watched video of it when police started getting in people's faces and telling them to disperse that they were not an authorized, permitted crowd. | ||
| They began throwing soda bottles and things at the police car windows. | ||
| They overturned police cars, burned police cars. | ||
| The police began firing rubber bullets at the crowd. | ||
| And you know why the people are doing this? | ||
| They don't like seeing a fellow human being murdered execution style and then the system making excuses for it. | ||
| If you want any respect from the public, you have to punish your officers when they murder people in cold blood. | ||
| But no, you've been caught lying. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| You thought that entire time he was ramping up to talk shit about the protesters, he was defending them or justifying it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's pretty nuts. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Dan, I had a whole bunch of anger in the holster for today, and now it is gone. | ||
| It is just fucking... | ||
| Pure shock and confusion. | ||
| I texted you before the show that I had something really confusing for you. | ||
| I'm so confused! | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I don't even... | ||
| What is this show if I think... | ||
| He's advocating for a violent response. | ||
| He's not necessarily advocating, but he's justifying a violent response to police action that is, again, unlawful in and of itself. | ||
| How is this a possible thing? | ||
| He's at very least coherently explaining why that happened. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Yeah! | ||
| The violence is the outlet of the people who can't be listened to. | ||
| Rioting is the voice of the unheard. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| It's, to me, just incredibly bizarre. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| I'm confused. | ||
| And again, I don't... | ||
| I don't know what to do, Dan. | ||
| I don't either. | ||
| Do we invent time travel? | ||
| If we're going to indulge multiverse theory, which I think is probably true, if we get into a time machine, is there any way that we can talk to the Alex Jones from this time? | ||
| And then put him on a completely different path. | ||
| Like, just butterfly. | ||
| You know, just chaos theory butterfly. | ||
| We don't have the money. | ||
| Just throw a little rock at him. | ||
| And then all of a sudden he grows into an activist? | ||
| Like, what's going on here? | ||
| No, I don't think it would be possible. | ||
| But, again, I'm not... | ||
| Maybe we just eat his brains and take his strength at this time. | ||
| I'm not doing this intentionally to butter you up. | ||
| I'm playing you the clips that are relevant in the order they come. | ||
| This next clip made me smile. | ||
| What are you doing to me, Dan? | ||
| This next clip... | ||
| Dan. | ||
| This is one of the only... | ||
| You are fucking with my head. | ||
| I know that we've talked about whenever he listens to Highwaymen, it's kind of like, that's a happy Alex. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| You can hear a couple moments in this next clip where it's like, this is absurdly happy Alex. | ||
| I'll never forget, when I was a teenager in Dallas, other than getting in a lot of fistfights, I was very clean. | ||
| Again, didn't like drugs. | ||
| I tried a few every time. | ||
| I hated them. | ||
| I liked alcohol. | ||
| We could get our hands on it. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| And they would just call kids in all day long to the office, not just myself, and say, we know you're a drug dealer. | ||
| We know you're stealing stereos, and you're going to work for us now. | ||
| And I said no, and then they got very upset. | ||
| But, I mean, this is just standard. | ||
| I'll never forget the cops saying, well, if you didn't steal those stereos, I know you're doing something illegal. | ||
| And I was self-righteous and said, yeah, I've stolen beer out of the golf carts. | ||
| That's how teenagers got their beer in Rockwall, Texas, is there were golf courses all over the community in different neighborhoods. | ||
| And before I even had a car or a motorcycle or a moped, we would walk sometimes a couple miles over to our buddies' houses. | ||
| I only stole beer a couple times. | ||
| This is quaint as fuck. | ||
| To the point of not leaving their ice chest in the back of their golf carts. | ||
| And they'd all be in the different golf... | ||
| I'm already digressing with this story. | ||
| The point is that I've said, yeah, I've stolen beer. | ||
| We know you've done a lot more than that. | ||
| This was years after I'd stolen beer out of ice chest. | ||
| Can you imagine being 13, 14 years old and you run up, grab a six-pack bottle of wine out of the back of the ice chest, run off in the woods and drink it with your buddies and roll around in the leaves? | ||
| That's about the extent of it. | ||
| Wait, what are you doing? | ||
| That's human. | ||
| They're rolling around in the leaves? | ||
| Yeah, you're drunk like idiots when you're 13, rolling around at the park. | ||
| Rolling around in the leaves. | ||
| That's a little bit weird. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| That's just delightful. | ||
| I think that one's... | ||
| No, it is delightful, but it turns them into a weird elf figure. | ||
| This isn't over. | ||
| Convertible. | ||
| We could go to one Easy Mart, but we had to walk about two miles because the other convenience stores on the main highway by our neighborhood wouldn't sell youth cigarettes, but the Easy Mart would. | ||
| But I did one time there was a convertible open with a pack of Marlboro Reds laying on the dash. | ||
| Let's just have a little confession hour here, and I grabbed that pack of cigarettes and I smoked them. | ||
| Hell yeah! | ||
| That's the extent of my great thievery. | ||
| Meanwhile, we're criminals. | ||
| The entire population are criminals, and we deserve it. | ||
| We deserve to be shot in the back because assuredly we did something wrong in our lives, or we deserve to be framed for a murder because assuredly we did something wrong in our lives. | ||
| Well, then the police just run around framing whoever they want, stealing houses, stealing homes. | ||
| I mean, he's talking about eminent domain there at the end, and we agree with him on that, too. | ||
| But what's interesting to me about that clip is it's two minutes or so of him getting wistful and telling adorable, relatable, human stories about stealing booze as a kid, or you see some cigarettes in an open car, and you scamper off and you smoke them. | ||
| That's so relatable and human. | ||
| It is downright cute. | ||
| In this world. | ||
| That is what it is. | ||
| In this world, for sure. | ||
| It is scampish, and it is, it could be in the movie American Graffiti. | ||
| Like, it is cute as fuck. | ||
| But did you notice there at the end, like... | ||
| He keeps losing the point of why he's telling these stories. | ||
| He's having too much fun. | ||
| He's caught up in sentiment and he forgets that he's trying to talk about these rock wall teachers trying to turn him into a snitch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| He forgets that. | ||
| And he's what? | ||
| He's 34? | ||
| 33 at this time? | ||
| At this point? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Give or take. | ||
| Somewhere around there? | ||
| Or 45. We don't actually know his age. | ||
| On record, he's 34-ish. | ||
| I mean, I'm fascinated by the losing yourself in sentiment, telling these stories, and then needing to get back on track, and so he jumps back onto the cops think we're all guilty. | ||
| That's where his mind gets back onto the narrative. | ||
| To me, it's like, your brain worked better. | ||
| This turns the whole... | ||
| Alex Jones show now into a weird behind-the-music for me. | ||
| Because this has turned into exactly that narrative. | ||
| Like, he's growing up, he's having a carefree, happy lifestyle, getting into some scampish trouble. | ||
| Gets a radio show. | ||
| His daddy gives him all the money. | ||
| He starts to build a little following for himself. | ||
| Gets right around to this time period. | ||
| Really living his best life. | ||
| He's a conspiracy theorist. | ||
| He's spouting nonsense. | ||
| He pretends he called 9-11. | ||
| He's singing with the highwaymen. | ||
| And then at a certain point, he starts to get obsessed with money. | ||
| It's all about money to him. | ||
| And he thinks it's going to make him happier, but it doesn't, Dan. | ||
| The money only adds problems to what's going on. | ||
| He cheats on his wife? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| We don't know that. | ||
| He's cheating on his current wife right now. | ||
| We don't know that. | ||
| Jordan, your theory is interesting and compelling, and I used to love that show. | ||
| But I would... | ||
| Say that you're forgetting that he made Endgame before this. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| He was still having fun in Endgame, though. | ||
| Somewhat. | ||
| He had his bullhorn. | ||
| Yeah, he had a bullhorn. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| We're going to learn a lot about that bullhorn. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I want to know the bullhorn's backstory. | ||
| You're going to hear a bit of it. | ||
| You're going to learn more about that bullhorn than you want to. | ||
| You don't want to learn about that bullhorn. | ||
| So when I told you I was reminded of January in 2009, it's for a very specific reason. | ||
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| That's why we went back to this date specifically to relaunch our 2009 investigation from this point forward. | ||
| And that is because on January 7th, 2009... | ||
| I will read to you from the Guardian article from that very day. | ||
| Gazprom, the state-owned Russian gas group, today cut off all supplies to Europe traveling through the Ukrainian pipelines, intensifying the political and economic crisis that has arisen out of a payment dispute between the two countries. | ||
| Amid evidence that people in Eastern Europe are being deprived of heating as the Arctic cold snap continues, Russia and Ukraine continue to blame each other for the deadlock. | ||
| Gazprom accuses Ukraine of shutting down the fourth and last open pipeline crossing the country, while officials at Naftagaz, Ukraine's state energy firm, simply said, quote, words fail us. | ||
| Russia supplies a quarter of Europe's gas and 80% of this transits through Ukraine. | ||
| As shortages hit Western Europe and intensify in the South and East, EU governments will meet on Friday to consider sharing supplies held in storage. | ||
| So, we'll get more into it after this clip, but... | ||
| Suffice it to say, at this point, because of some contractual disputes, on January 7th, Russia cut off oil or gas that was most of the supplies for 18 countries that all ran through Ukraine. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because of disagreements with their financial... | ||
| In terms of any argument public like this, in a large scale... | ||
| I am immediately going to side with the person who has the least wordy response. | ||
| If the Ukraine's response is like, dude, I don't even know what that guy's talking about, I'm immediately like, yeah, yeah, Ukraine is right. | ||
| Words fail us is a strong response. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| For real, guys, you can't believe this guy. | ||
| So that was on January 7th, and the crisis had been sort of escalating for a few days prior, because I believe it was on the 5th that Russia cut off most of the supply, and then on the 7th cut off all of it. | ||
| What were they doing on the 6th? | ||
| They were just hanging out. | ||
| Just chilling? | ||
| But on the 7th, Alex didn't even bring it up. | ||
| And on the 8th, he says this. | ||
| And now, Russia, because of Ukraine threatening to renege on their lease of a naval port and moving weapons systems up against the border, Russia cut back on some of the basically free gas they've been giving them as a subsidy, as part of that deal. | ||
| And so what did Ukraine do? | ||
| They just cut off gas to Europe. | ||
| People could die there, folks. | ||
| I mean, below zero in many of those countries. | ||
| In fact, people are dying, the press is reporting. | ||
| You know, I saw a blurb about this in email, and I didn't believe it, and I Googled it, and it was our very own KVUE Austin TV. | ||
| New law restricts resale of kids' products. | ||
| Wait, that was a quick... | ||
| That was a quick turnaround. | ||
| I kept that last part in just to illustrate how quickly he pivots off this. | ||
| That was quick. | ||
| And he doesn't fucking talk about it ever again. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| He drops that one line and he's like, Hey, and I heard that kids are not allowed to use toys anymore. | ||
| In as much as I've listened to, he does not bring it back up. | ||
| And that's crazy. | ||
| Ukraine is making sure people die. | ||
| Kids? | ||
| They're not allowed to buy toys anymore. | ||
| But it's important to note that he's putting the onus on Ukraine shutting it off. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| See, now this is the Alex... | ||
| Now we're back in comfortable territory. | ||
| We are... | ||
| Alex joining with Russia on literally anything is where I am comfortable. | ||
| But this is very, very strange. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it's so dismissive. | ||
| It's so... | ||
| Like, here's a ten-second blurb about this, and then we're moving on to, hey, you can't resell cribs. | ||
| Right. | ||
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| Can't do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Could get hurt. | ||
| So I read a report from the Oxford Institute of Energy Studies about the crisis, because I wanted to get a good handle on what the situation was, like whether it was reasonable in any way for Alex to think. | ||
| That Ukraine was behind the actual shutting off of the gas. | ||
| Of course, because he's insinuating that Ukraine is killing Europeans. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is the worst crime you can commit. | ||
| So I'm going to read you some of the salient points from this 60-page report that the Oxford Energy Institute put out. | ||
| Love their dictionary, by the way. | ||
| The night of the 5th of January and early hours of the 6th of January were possibly the key moments in the crisis as far as deliveries to Europe were concerned. | ||
| On the 5th, a televised and rather obviously staged conversation between Prime Minister Putin and Gazprom's CEO Miller rehearsed all the Russian grievances against Ukraine and culminated in Putin agreeing with Miller's proposal to reduce the gas flows and instructing him to inform Gazprom's European partners about the reasons for the action. | ||
| At this point, on the 7th of January, the second and more serious stage of the dispute began. | ||
| Gas was cut off completely to countries in southeastern Europe, which are 100% dependent on Russian imports, and partially to other countries for 13 days. | ||
| The Russian and Ukrainian sides blamed each other, neither displayed great urgency about moving towards agreement. | ||
| It is important to underline the unprecedented nature of this situation. | ||
| Supplies to Europe had never been halted since the gas transit system was built in Soviet times. | ||
| The two sides finally negotiated two new contracts covering supply and transit which were signed on the 19th of January. | ||
| Gas flows to Europe restarted on the morning of the 20th and two days later were returning to normal levels. | ||
| So that's sort of just a description of what happened. | ||
| And then they get to their conclusions. | ||
| A crisis in Russia-Ukraine bilateral gas relations is not in itself a surprise. | ||
| Many, including ourselves, had seen it coming as long ago as the summer of 2008. | ||
| The surprise, indeed the shock, was that both sides allowed the dispute to escalate from disagreements about debts, prices, and transit tariffs to the point where supplies to Europe were completely shut off, and then allowed the situation to continue for two weeks in the middle of winter, with serious adverse humanitarian consequences for especially Southeast European countries. | ||
| We do not believe the often cited desire of the Russian government to use energy as an economic or political weapon against European countries played any part in this crisis. | ||
| Russia's relationship with Europe and the gas sphere is and will remain one of mutual dependence. | ||
| While Europe depends heavily on Russian gas supplies, Russia, which here means both Gazprom and the Russian state, relies heavily on revenues generated from European sales. | ||
| By contrast, the critical Russian decision to cut back deliveries on the 5th of January was an unnecessarily risky and commercially irrational action at this stage of the dispute. | ||
| That decision may have reflected Prime Minister Putin's anger and frustration and been aimed at punishing Ukraine for its repeated threats to disrupt transit. | ||
| 40 years of Russia's reputation as a secure gas supplier and Ukraine's reputation as a secure transit country have been damaged, probably irreparably. | ||
| The Russian government almost certainly personalized to Prime Minister Putin, which took the decisions which eventually led on the 7th of January to the complete interruption of European supplies through the Ukrainian transit network, should have recognized these consequences and had the option of stepping back. | ||
| So if I understand correctly, what they said was Putin threw a tantrum. | ||
| It seems like that's the most likely explanation that people who have studied the case on it is. | ||
| Well, that in the... | ||
| Well, now that you go back and you look at the way that they... | ||
| One of the... | ||
| I mean, one of the narratives that emerged with the Russian hacking into the American election and the DNC emails and all of that stuff was really just a very personal I hate Hillary kind of reaction. | ||
| So, that now makes a lot more sense. | ||
| With that context of him just throwing a tantrum and ruining relations with the rest of the world for a while? | ||
| Some of that is too easy, I think, a little bit. | ||
| And I think that fits into a... | ||
| I would say an incompletely drawn psychological profile that we may want to work off of. | ||
| I think that when you look at more of the details about it, and I don't want to read you guys a 60 page report or anything like that. | ||
| Yeah, I don't want you to do that either. | ||
| Both sides had fault in this, but the shutting off of the gas was 100% Russia. | ||
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| They did it in response to failed negotiations between Ukraine and Russia. | ||
| And some things that Russia said Ukraine was doing that do not appear to be true. | ||
| They were saying that they were stealing gas that was coming through the pipelines, but it appears that most of the stuff that... | ||
| Did they get a little hose and they siphoned it? | ||
| The guy was breathing in real hard and put it in a gas can? | ||
| I mean, a lot of it is really impossible to prove either way, but the Ukraine's argument is that the gas that they're talking about... | ||
| Is what's called operational gas, which they were using to power the pipelines and create the ability to use the transit flows. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And stuff like that. | ||
| So it's the cost of doing business, essentially. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In order to move this gas, we have to use this gas. | ||
| Some of the gas is used in the transit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so it's incredibly complicated. | ||
| And I think from everything I can tell, if you look at the reality of it, both sides are 100% at fault for not resolving this when the stakes were so high for people in other countries. | ||
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But also, Russia made the decision to shut off the gas, which Alex is putting the other direction on. | |
| He's saying that Ukraine shut it off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And that is not the case. | |
| No one would make that argument. | ||
| Even on the 8th of January 2009, no one would make that argument. | ||
| Except who? | ||
| But see, I hate this. | ||
| I hate this because obviously we know what the fucking answer is. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Of course! | ||
| But it still could just be someone who's hyper-sympathetic to the Russian narrative, Russia's worldview, has a boner for Putin to some extent, and what it means to me is that clip where he talked about going on RT and the Russian intelligence agents debriefing him. | ||
| I think it had to have happened before 2009. | ||
| Seems like it. | ||
| Because this narrative would never come out of his mouth if he wasn't super sympathetic to Russia. | ||
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| It's fascinating to me just on a pure like... | ||
| Where would you get this shit kind of level? | ||
| Like, there's no way to read... | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| The only way to get that narrative is through approved state-sponsored Russian sources. | ||
| Some of his buddies who hang out with... | ||
| Well, yeah, what are we talking about? | ||
| His buddies? | ||
| Paul Craig Roberts? | ||
| He's at the bar in Austin, and they're like, hey, you know, this Ukraine character, they're going all buck wild on this. | ||
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Possibly. | |
| This is clearly a Russian narrative. | ||
| Where does he get it? | ||
| Unless he is either absorbing and watching Russian television constantly. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Which is a suspicious thought in and of itself. | |
| It's possible. | ||
| Or if he's got a direct relationship with people whose interests I still don't think we have any kind of firm evidence that there's a direct relationship past the exploitation of flattery. | ||
| That they have clearly... | ||
| If Alex's story about that RT debriefing is true, which I'm inclined to believe it is true. | ||
| As we go further along, I'm leaning more and more towards that's a real narrative. | ||
| I mostly believe it's true because he's not that creative. | ||
| No! | ||
| A lot of his brags are just, we have millions of listeners. | ||
| The idea of concocting a setup that he fell for, I don't think would occur to him. | ||
| So, I don't know, man. | ||
| Yeah, that's next level lying. | ||
| It's very tough. | ||
| And, I mean, this is the reason, going back to this specific start point, and to see immediately that, like, that narrative in the face of the reality is troubling. | ||
| And what's more troubling is to see a completely different man than we know in the present still loving Russia. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The guy who is mad that the cops killed a black guy who's innocent and didn't deserve to die and all this and he's mad about it and the cops should go to jail and he's still saying like, hey, Ukraine's fucking up here. | ||
| Why are they fucking with Russia? | ||
| Russia can't do wrong. | ||
| It means, like, you know what I'm having? | ||
| I'm having the exact same revelation that we did when we did the 2015 thing. | ||
| Like, when we went back and Alex was like, some say Putin will save the world. | ||
| Like, before he became on Team Trump? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| When I was surprised by that, it's the same thing. | ||
| I'm super surprised. | ||
| Yeah, I'm super surprised to hear that. | ||
| Something I'm not as surprised about. | ||
| Is he, perhaps, a Russian sleeper agent? | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| When did his dad move to this country? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| There's a lot of David Joneses. | ||
| It's really tough to figure out. | ||
| See, there you go. | ||
| One of them is David Bowie. | ||
| When did he move to this country? | ||
| Don't know that either. | ||
| I don't think he did. | ||
| So you won't be surprised to learn that Alex at this point is still, like, really wanting money. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| But the flavor is so different. | ||
| He hasn't started his pill companies yet. | ||
| And so he's kind of, you know, he's selling DVDs, he's selling books, and he has some sponsors. | ||
| You know, like we've seen some of these weirdos. | ||
| Misshapen Jeans. | ||
| We've seen those. | ||
| But on this episode, on January 8th, He's got a fucking real interesting way he's trying to make money. | ||
| Another issue, and then we're going to Steve Quayle, is this. | ||
| We moved to the new office completely about two and a half weeks ago, and I had this bullhorn that I used in the movie, A Scanner Darkly. | ||
| I guess I've had it five, six years since the last one got broken. | ||
| And it's the favorite model, this big radio shack model that I found is the loudest for the size. | ||
| And it's been in just countless demonstrations. | ||
| The last one was in Denver. | ||
| We were bullhorning MSNBC for covering up that 9-11 was an inside job outside. | ||
| And they came over, grabbed it, tried to rip it away. | ||
| Then a guy comes up with a knife and cuts it. | ||
| It's on video. | ||
| And so if somebody wants to buy the bullhorn, we have an eBay auction going. | ||
| They can fix that or they can keep it as a classic piece of Liberty memorabilia. | ||
| And the Disinfo trolls went into the article. | ||
| On Infowars.com that Kurt Nemo posted, Alex Jones, Tyranny Crusher, one bullhorn. | ||
| I want that bullhorn! | ||
| And they yelled and screamed and said, how dare you be selling this? | ||
| How dare you be profiting? | ||
| How dare you be doing this? | ||
| When we've stated that we're selling the bullhorn to raise money to expand the studio. | ||
| We've built the new radio studio. | ||
| You've seen it. | ||
| It looks great. | ||
| If you're a PrisonPlanet.tv viewer. | ||
| We're building the new studio, but in this economy, we don't have the funds to do this. | ||
| So even now, you should be getting the sense that he's a man who's living... | ||
| He took a bath in the housing crisis, I'll tell you that right now. | ||
| It's possible, but the way he's asking for money, working around money, that's how a human does it. | ||
| I want that bullhorn so bad. | ||
| Freedom Crusher, not Tyranny Crusher 1? | ||
| He's having a garage sale. | ||
| I want that bullhorn so bad. | ||
| You're not going to like how much the bidding gets up to. | ||
| I bet it's gone down a lot since then. | ||
| Spoiler alert, we're going to hear a lot about this bullhorn for the rest of the episode. | ||
| Wait, so his old bullhorn, for which he clearly had a sentimental attachment, was damaged. | ||
| So then he researches bullhorns. | ||
| Finds the loudest model within the best size for him. | ||
| All right? | ||
| Buys that bullhorn. | ||
| Then it gets damaged and he decides, no. | ||
| I am going to turn this bullhorn into my company's future. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it seems to work because I don't want to ruin things, but the bidding war. | ||
| I want that bullhorn. | ||
| Is not to be believed. | ||
| If we can track that bullhorn down, I will steal it. | ||
| Would you believe this? | ||
| I will steal it like a pack of Marlboro Reds on a convertible. | ||
| The bidding for this bullhorn gets so intense that the government gets involved. | ||
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What? | |
| What are you talking about? | ||
| But that's a spoiler. | ||
| What is he fucking talking about? | ||
| But that's a spoiler for later. | ||
| Who is mad at him for... | ||
| You can't sell that bullhorn. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| What are you doing selling that bullhorn? | ||
| What is he talking about? | ||
| This is the heyday of eBay. | ||
| That rhymes. | ||
| We're going to learn a lot more about this bullhorn, but in the meantime, right now we have to take a quick break. | ||
| We'll be back in about two minutes. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right, we're back. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| So, this bullhorn is going to be... | ||
| Right back in a bullhorn talk. | ||
| It's going to be a huge player in the show. | ||
| I don't understand how that's possible. | ||
| But I want to talk to you about the guests a little bit that they have on. | ||
| I've got my notes out here, and I just don't have any. | ||
| The inventor of the bullhorn, of course. | ||
| I don't have any clips of them, really, because the interviews are inconsequential. | ||
| And a lot of it does come back to just like... | ||
| When you listen to 2009, Alex Jones... | ||
| So much of it is Endgame stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It becomes very clear to me that Endgame was specifically a best-of documentary that he made. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it was just kind of like, he talks about these same things all the fucking time. | ||
| So just go and watch our Endgame stuff, and you'll get most of it. | ||
| Yeah, so when we did the Endgame documentary, what we wound up doing is ruining the Greatest Hits album. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| You can't go back and listen to any of the Eagles' regular albums. | ||
| But that's why this... | ||
| Because you shouldn't. | ||
| You shouldn't listen to their Greatest Hits album either, but if you're going to, you wind up listening to that one. | ||
| That's why this investigation is going to be even greater, because we're going to find those deep album cuts, like him being mad at the cops for killing him on our man, that most people don't get to know. | ||
| So we're going to listen to the songs Fleetwood Mac wrote that weren't written by anybody who was any good. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He has Steve Quayle on, who we know has written multiple books about how giants used to walk the earth, among other very crackpotty topics. | ||
| He is a... | ||
| Ironic for a man named after a very small bird. | ||
| He is a straight-up lunatic. | ||
| He is on and he talks about how... | ||
| It's all just like the end is here kind of stuff. | ||
| It is. | ||
| We're in a martial law state already. | ||
| He has a good quote. | ||
| Oh, the Patriot Act was already signed. | ||
| The globalists sacrifice live children. | ||
| If they'll take your guns, they'll take your life. | ||
| That sort of shit. | ||
| All right. | ||
| He also wanted to inform everyone that Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek, was the successor of Aleister Crowley and was the head of the OTO, the Ordo Tempo... | ||
| Man, I kind of want to get back to bullhorn talk. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He has Paul Craig Roberts on. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| The founder of Reaganomics, as Alex would call him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Also a gentleman who's, like we've discussed, written for Sputnik for years and years. | ||
| Also, if you are the founder of Reaganomics, you are an insane person. | ||
| They mostly just talk about economic collapse. | ||
| Well, they were right on time. | ||
| A little late. | ||
| And they talk about how it's going to get worse. | ||
| And then he has an hour and a half... | ||
| Unless there is some sort of massive stimulus package that's passed through Congress that will... | ||
| Yeah, they'd probably be against that. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Then he has an hour and a half interview with David Icke. | ||
| And the interview with David Icke is not good. | ||
| Like, it's just boring. | ||
| As much as I want to play clips of David Icke for you... | ||
| Saying nonsense? | ||
| I would love to, but it's just nothing. | ||
| He should have been using a bullhorn. | ||
| It's absolutely nothing. | ||
| It's just the two of them sort of... | ||
| I'm starting to understand why he wants to talk about this bullhorn a lot, because I'm liking saying the word bullhorn. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You get a lot of ol' in there. | ||
| The only thing that David Icke said that I thought was like, yee... | ||
| I mean, he doesn't talk lizards when he's on... | ||
| When he's on Alex's show. | ||
| He keeps that sort of talk close to the vest. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But he does say that people like Barack Obama are white people in black bodies, and that made me a bit uncomfortable. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I don't know what that means. | ||
| I don't either, but he says he was quoting somebody else, but I couldn't... | ||
| I don't know who. | ||
| I couldn't make out who he was saying, and so I just... | ||
| I don't have the clip of it. | ||
| I would have researched who he was quoting, but it just... | ||
| It's a bad interview. | ||
| It's actually Dennis Hastert. | ||
| So anyway... | ||
| Yo, boy. | ||
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Belding? | |
| So he gets done with David Icke, and then he gets back to the bullhorn. | ||
| What is the surprise today? | ||
| Well, it's not... | ||
| Alex Jones, Tyranny Crusher 1. This was the first time we ever did an eBay item. | ||
| And the reason we did it is because people are like, well, this megaphone's broken. | ||
| We've bought a new one. | ||
| You've had this one for all these years. | ||
| It's in the movie, A Scanner Darkly, that they rotoscoped. | ||
| That's really me and the bullhorn in there. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We're going to play a clip of that in a moment. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He's going to play a clip just to prove that he was in the movie. | ||
| We know you're in the movie, Alex. | ||
| That's not... | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Movie memorabilia. | ||
| Sell it to the Hard Rock Cafe! | ||
| Surprise come up in a minute. | ||
| Tyranny Crusher 1, should we get it fixed? | ||
| Like a $125 megaphone, or should we sell it? | ||
| And obviously it's a fundraiser. | ||
| We're not saying the megaphone, just as a megaphone, is worth $3,500. | ||
| I think it's the latest bid on there for it. | ||
| We opened it up at $1,500. | ||
| There is Tyranny Crusher 1 on the PrisonPlanet.tv screen. | ||
| So there's two important things going on here. | ||
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He's calling the bullhorn Tyranny Crusher 1. He said that already. | |
| You didn't catch that? | ||
| It's a great name. | ||
| I caught it, but I'm still struggling to wrap my head around that fact. | ||
| Are you trying to wrap your head around it? | ||
| Oh, there we go. | ||
| It's a pretty good name for a bullhorn, and it's great that he has to keep talking about it. | ||
| I like living in a world where you can just say, it's a pretty good name for a bullhorn, and everybody's like, yeah, and then we move on. | ||
| That's an insane thing to say, right? | ||
| Are you not concerned about what the surprise is? | ||
| No! | ||
| I think the surprise is that this bullhorn is going to sell for a lot of money. | ||
| When I was going back through my notes, here's the note that I have from this timestamp. | ||
| Alex has a big surprise. | ||
| Also, still trying to sell that bullhorn. | ||
| Also, still trying to sell that bullhorn. | ||
| So I was going back through and I'm like, he didn't have a surprise. | ||
| Because I couldn't remember what the surprise was. | ||
| And then I remembered, oh, that's the surprise. | ||
| Charlie Sheen gave him a jacket. | ||
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Charlie Sheen gave him a jacket. | |
| That's his big surprise. | ||
| Oh, was it a nice jacket? | ||
| It was a Letterman jacket? | ||
| It's the jacket that he wore in Red Dawn. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, allegedly. | ||
| I would like that jacket. | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| It may or may not be true. | ||
| There's no way that's true. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| What in which jacket? | ||
| So Alex is- Also, Wolverines. | ||
| Sure, Alex yells that a bunch. | ||
| Yeah, which again, people did not understand the point of that movie at all. | ||
| Alex might not either. | ||
| It was an allegory. | ||
| But Alex is super excited to tell everyone that he has Charlie Sheen's jacket from Red Dawn. | ||
| In the context of I'm solving this bullhorn. | ||
| I will not sell you this jacket! | ||
| He's like, what? | ||
| Alright. | ||
| That's what kind of a guy Charlie Sheen is. | ||
| He's such a good man. | ||
| He'll give you this jacket. | ||
| That's what he does for his friends. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| And so that ends up leading... | ||
| Bullhorn is Tyranny Crusher 1. This jacket is Heroic Death 1? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So that leads him to play some clips from Red Dawn. | ||
| Now I'm in. | ||
| I love this show. | ||
| Every time a listener is like, you know, I used to listen to Alex a long time ago because I thought he was funny. | ||
| I'm like, because I never did. | ||
| And I'm always like, this guy is a fucking insane racist monster. | ||
| And now listening back to 2009. | ||
| I get it, man. | ||
| This is pretty funny. | ||
| He's playing clips of Red Dawn. | ||
| But keep in mind that this is like a four-hour show, and I'm playing you 20 minutes of it. | ||
| Yeah, but that's all I needed to listen to. | ||
| There's the repetitive commercials. | ||
| I'm not going to actually go back and listen to the show, but come on! | ||
| A guy who's selling a bullhorn named? | ||
| And not selling a jacket. | ||
| Bragging about a jacket. | ||
| That is just great radio. | ||
| So he starts playing some clips from Red Dawn, and then he makes an announcement over them. | ||
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Come on! | |
| Oh, he tackles him in the jacket! | ||
| Tackle the rooski! | ||
| He's so happy! | ||
| By the way, I'm on Russia Today during election day, coach. | ||
| For a full hour. | ||
| Smooth. | ||
| Smooth, like silk. | ||
| Ooh, he tackles him in the jacket. | ||
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By the way, I'm on Russia Today for a full hour. | |
| During election coverage. | ||
| God, that's so great. | ||
| That's pretty amazing. | ||
| That makes me so happy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's so happy. | ||
| Look at how happy. | ||
| Yeah, he's pretty giddy. | ||
| He is loving watching Red Dawn on the radio. | ||
| This is a man who is getting paid to play clips from Red Dawn. | ||
| That is a happy man. | ||
| I think if anything, Alex Jones, and we'll see what else we end up learning through this trip through 2009, but I think he should live on in everyone's memory, not as a racist propagandist, because he is that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think more importantly to all of our hearts, He should serve as a cautionary tale. | ||
| Like Icarus. | ||
| Don't take super male vitality. | ||
| Well, there's that. | ||
| But also, like Icarus, he flew too close to the sun. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, he... | ||
| Whatever it is, it's probably a lust for money. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| He got money and he wanted more. | ||
| He wanted more. | ||
| He wanted more of the luxury and stuff. | ||
| He got flattered and he wanted more. | ||
| He wanted his dad to love him. | ||
| When the happiest he could possibly ever be is right around here. | ||
| He's making enough money to live. | ||
| He has a fan base. | ||
| He's getting to do whatever the fuck he wants. | ||
| Consequence free. | ||
| Just say a bunch of shit. | ||
| No one's gonna sue him. | ||
| He owns his own home. | ||
| But he wants a bigger one. | ||
| I don't understand that. | ||
| I don't think that's... | ||
| Like for us... | ||
| Getting to the point where it's just like, we have enough donations so you can pay your rent is the happiest we're ever going to be. | ||
| Everything from here is going to be garbage. | ||
| No, we could get happier, but the idea of like... | ||
| Being rich doesn't charm me. | ||
| No, it sucks. | ||
| Clearly. | ||
| This is great for us. | ||
| If we ever do become successful, immediately we're both going to be like, no, I can't turn into that guy. | ||
| You guys can have Tyranny Crusher 1 through 5. We don't need it. | ||
| This might not be the best time to tell you this. | ||
| What? | ||
| I'm selling a broken megaphone. | ||
| No! | ||
| What's the name? | ||
| It doesn't have a name. | ||
| I don't think it's fun to name megaphones, just bullhorns. | ||
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Wait, what's the difference between a bullhorn and a megaphone? | |
| A megaphone is just that tube that you put your mouth at the base of and it amplifies your voice. | ||
| Like a Vuvuzela? | ||
| Is that what you're talking about? | ||
| No, you don't blow into it. | ||
| It's just like a cone, basically, that you yell at. | ||
| Whereas the megaphone has electric parts. | ||
| The bullhorn, you mean? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Turns out I don't know the difference. | ||
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Anyway, you know what I do know? | |
| Alex Jones. | ||
| Is a fucking insane gold salesman in 2009. | ||
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Okay. | |
| You can wear him as pants! | ||
| The level to which he is incorporating Mitus resources without disclosing their relationship. | ||
| Do you mean that they own him entirely? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Like, he ends almost every show with Ted Anderson coming in and telling him about what bouillon he's bought. | ||
| Like, hey, I got a couple of francs that need to go. | ||
| I got some buffalo coins. | ||
| Man, that is like the host of a major TV show on Fox News bringing in a lawyer that he has... | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| It's just crazy unethical. | ||
| No correlation. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| So, at this point, and I want to stress, he had done a half-hour interview with Paul Craig Roberts just about the economy collapsing and stuff like that. | ||
| And so now, towards the end of the show, we're a good three and a half hours into the show now. | ||
| He brings in Ted. | ||
| In closing, again, we're trying to fund this operation. | ||
| The reason we're able to expand or maintain, I'm kind of wondering if we can expand or just maintain with the economy the way it is, we need more funds. | ||
| And I hope you will get the books and videos and materials and also support our sponsors. | ||
| And one of them is the place I buy precious metals. | ||
| Real quick, he says that they're a sponsor, but that's not really accurate. | ||
| That is not... | ||
| They're an ownership group. | ||
| I've looked a little bit into the FTC's guidelines in terms of how you're supposed to represent sponsorships and stuff like that, and spiritually, I think this is a crime. | ||
| I legitimately can't say for sure, and it's going to take a little more research on my part, but the fact that he's being syndicated by the guy's company and not disclosing that. | ||
| That is an unfair representation of their relationship. | ||
| Eh, Sinclair Media. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| And Ted has still got gold at $60, $70, some of the pieces, $80 under the price it's selling for. | ||
| Gold is up right now, right at $15 today from yesterday. | ||
| And you heard Dr. Paul Craig Roberts say, we will have a depression worse. | ||
| He never talked like that, the father of Reaganomics. | ||
| So I wanted to bring Ted on. | ||
| Ted Anderson here at the Union has been on in about a week. | ||
| Ted, you've got the super deal for people. | ||
| Tell folks about it. | ||
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I did. | |
| I was able to even back down a little bit on the British sovereigns and francs right now. | ||
| I've got the French franc at $204 and the British sovereign at $252. | ||
| So where is that price in the market? | ||
| Like $760? | ||
| Yeah, comparatively speaking, I did a little check on it and I was looking to see where I... | ||
| That's really boring stuff, but the point that I wanted to keep in the end there was that Alex is talking price points. | ||
| He's very aware of the business. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| He's very involved. | ||
| Wait, so you're telling me that you're selling gold at 35% of what it is that it would be on the market? | ||
| How can you get away with these prices, Dan? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're in... | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| We're going to have to put a clock on this. | ||
| We're going to have to put a clock because we're going to sell out of gold. | ||
| We're going to sell out of French francs. | ||
| I don't know if those are gold, but that's fine. | ||
| You've got an hour. | ||
| Call in now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We're gonna sell out. | ||
| This is not acceptable. | ||
| Also, we have a suite of samurai swords, which are made out of francophiles. | ||
| Not even French francs, but people who like France. | ||
| This isn't close to acceptable broadcast behavior. | ||
| It's... | ||
| Whenever you... | ||
| If Alex is slightly unaware of the business and just letting Ted talk, having a Ted talk... | ||
| That would be slightly different. | ||
| But he's doing it like a... | ||
| I mean, it's not funny, but it's like a vaudeville routine. | ||
| The two of them are going back and forth. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| So that's the end of the 8th. | ||
| And now we jump into the 9th. | ||
| And Jordan, if you have been confused up till now... | ||
| How is this going to get more confused? | ||
| This is going to get so much worse! | ||
| How much did the bullhorn cost? | ||
| We're going to get to it. | ||
| It still hasn't finished? | ||
| Bullhorn's still in play. | ||
| Bullhorn's still in play. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| But at the beginning of this show, Alex Jones talks about... | ||
| A president who Donald Trump is a big fan of, and Alex is a big fan of in present day. | ||
| So you're talking about Andrew Jackson? | ||
| Hitler gave speeches about it, wrote about it. | ||
| Hitler was president? | ||
| He got his policies for death camps and rounding up populations, non-Aryan groups in Russia and all over Europe, from the American Indian program. | ||
| Here in the United States. | ||
| And of course that adopted a lot from those that invented it, the British, the concentration camp. | ||
| It was Andrew Jackson who turned around and did some of the same stuff to Native Americans. | ||
| Not a laughing... | ||
| No, the giggle's not great, but the awareness there is that Andrew Jackson is in league with Hitler. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| That's very weird. | ||
| So the problem here is that this suggests that he actually does know something about history at this point in time. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Like, for all the times we talk about how he's read all of these sources and he just willfully lies about that. | ||
| He probably heard more after 2009. | ||
| Well, that's possible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that's the thing. | ||
| Like, on the stupid-slash-evil continuum that we often disagree upon, wherein we're talking about, you know, is his reading comprehension so low? | ||
| Is that the real issue? | ||
| And that's why he misunderstands all of these things. | ||
| Now, if you get... | ||
| If you can read... | ||
| You are willfully lying about all of these... | ||
| Primary sources that you say you understand. | ||
| Because you can. | ||
| It is within your capability to recognize that America is genociders. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| I don't think it's that cut and dry because that's such a simple conclusion to come to. | ||
| You know, like, you could read a children's coloring book and find out that Andrew Jackson was a genocider. | ||
| That's a... | ||
| You know, we should publish a series of Knowledge Fight coloring books that talk about real American history. | ||
| Oh, dude, that would be... | ||
| It would be brutal. | ||
| Very unmarketable. | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| But, you know, that to me doesn't indicate too much in terms of... | ||
| Yeah, what's that children's book? | ||
| Go the fuck to sleep? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I've heard of that. | ||
| I think America's version would be go the fuck to hell. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| Go the fuck to democracy! | ||
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Yay! | |
| Exclamation point. | ||
| So, Jordan, you're asking questions about that bullhorn. | ||
| And I am thrilled to tell you that I have answers. | ||
| Always asking questions about that bullhorn. | ||
| By the way, the Alex Jones tyranny crusher one bullhorn auctioned on eBay only a couple days into a seven-day bid is over $50,000 right now. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Now, somebody put in one for $5 million and then bragged that it was fake. | ||
| We just Googled their handle and found out that it was part of a government group. | ||
| What? | ||
| Government-affiliated group. | ||
| Laughing, openly saying they wanted to screw it up, but we just canceled their bid, and it's a legitimate cancellation because we have their own handle, their own admission, where they're admitting that they are, and even posting their bidding details on the web, posting the evidence of their felony. | ||
| We went and looked it up. | ||
| Memory told me it was a felony. | ||
| About $10,000 federal. | ||
| In Texas, it's above $6,000. | ||
| Four ways to live. | ||
| For a state felony, but I don't know what state this individual's in. | ||
| States can't have felonies, right? | ||
| You can always subpoena those, but it looks like we'll be able to handle those problems. | ||
| We've talked to eBay now, and they did say that if these people did succeed, that there would be criminal charges. | ||
| And they put a bid in on the bullhorn. | ||
| They're not going to be successful in their criminal activities. | ||
| They're admitted criminal activities, but they're doing important work, of course, for CENTCOM, so it's okay. | ||
| What is CENTCOM? | ||
| Central Command. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| That's less fun than I was hoping. | ||
| He believes that a government agency was trying to fuck with him by putting in a troll bid for five million dollars for his broken bullhorn. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| I prefer a government that does that, Dan. | ||
| I prefer a government that is willing to troll Alex Jones in that fashion. | ||
| I understand that, like, Cointelpro is a thing, and, like, infiltration exists, and that sort of stuff. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| That is not lost on me. | ||
| No, yeah, but J. Edgar Hoover never was like, hey. | ||
| I'll buy your notes on the I Have a Dream speech for five million dollars. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Also, this is like, you know, 2009 is where you're getting beginnings of people figuring out... | ||
| Like, really good ways to fuck with people on the internet. | ||
| And maybe Alex Jones... | ||
| It was a happier time. | ||
| And maybe Alex's world kind of, like, coalesced a lot of those people for and against him, you know? | ||
| And someone was just fucking with him on eBay. | ||
| I think that's the absolute most likely thing. | ||
| Oh, yeah, of course. | ||
| It was not a government agency. | ||
| It was a 14-year-old. | ||
| But that does not stop Alex from spiraling into a vicious rant about these people on the internet who are fucking with him. | ||
| Yeah, and if you didn't know that you've got some CENTCOM and FBI guys in there with you, I know some of you are just fellow traveler, lobotomy-type folks. | ||
| Oh, those lobotomy-type folks. | ||
| Fluoride heads, your mothers didn't breastfeed you, and then you drank fluoride, so your brain's tiny and got rotholes in it. | ||
| Oh, you didn't know that? | ||
| Of course, you'll just laugh. | ||
| You'll go, well, my mom didn't breastfeed me. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But you won't Google and read the BBC and Associated Press about your brain being 15 to 30 percent smaller, depending on the study, before you weren't breastfed. | ||
| You'll just laugh and say that's not true. | ||
| It does depend on the study, doesn't it? | ||
| But I guarantee you, mama puts you in a crib in dirty diapers and didn't take care of you. | ||
| And that's your problem. | ||
| And I'm sorry they savaged your mind so that you couldn't connect your intellect with your soul. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| Is that like teleportation without a soul? | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| A little bit along those lines? | ||
| This is another point that I need to bring up that I have discovered from watching this 2009 shit. | ||
| Alex has been against Satan the whole time. | ||
| There was a part of me that I used to listen to his show when I was younger and I'd be like, all these conspiracies are wild and kind of fun and everything. | ||
| I didn't understand. | ||
| Did you put in that bit? | ||
| What? | ||
| Dan, did you put in that bit? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| I did not work for CENTCOM. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| But I didn't understand that he was fucking against Satan from the jump. | ||
| Like, I didn't realize that this is a decade-long battle against Satan. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Of course he's against Satan. | ||
| He doesn't talk about it much, but he's fucking... | ||
| Satan is ostensibly a bad character. | ||
| Right, but I thought that that was a newer wrinkle in his world. | ||
| Like, his cosmology, the, oh, there's devil, the literal Christian devil behind all of this. | ||
| It's there. | ||
| See... | ||
| I assumed immediately, the moment you bring up the devil, you've always been bringing up the devil. | ||
| There's nobody who just suddenly starts bringing up the devil. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| You've always been against the devil. | ||
| There's people who are born again at like 40 or something like that who get, you know, they change. | ||
| Yeah, but he clearly wasn't born again. | ||
| This is shit that he's grown up with. | ||
| It's probably true. | ||
| I bet he has a grandma who talked about the devil non-stop. | ||
| But I bet in early 2000s he wasn't overtly talking about Satan's behind all these people I don't like. | ||
| He has an hour interview at the end of the show with a guy named Alan Watt. | ||
| Not Alan Watts. | ||
| Not the Alan Watts. | ||
| No, Alan Watts is the other guy. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Alan Watt is the guy who Alex talks to. | ||
| Not the guy who's interested in Taoist philosophy. | ||
| Not the inspirational speaker that you find videos of giving flowing speeches about human potential on YouTube. | ||
| No, Alan Watt is a guy who believes in the Illuminati. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Very similar. | ||
| He's probably behind a lot of Alex's endgame. | ||
| Because every time he comes on the show, it's just the plot of Endgame. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And on this appearance here on the 9th, January 9th, 2009, he is literally talking about the Christian devil being behind all of the problems. | ||
| Lucifer. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The fallen star. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so it's just... | ||
| That blew my mind. | ||
| And so when he's talking about your intellect not being connected to your soul... | ||
| Oh, that's a bummer. | ||
| There's so much there. | ||
| It's surprising to me that all it takes to connect the intellect to the soul is breastfeeding. | ||
| Breast milk, baby. | ||
| That seems suspicious. | ||
| Yeah, weird. | ||
| I would like to see a peer-reviewed study on that. | ||
| Well, it depends based on the study. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Depends. | ||
| You got 15 to 30% more soul if you've been breastfed. | ||
| Yeah, the soul quotient depends on study. | ||
| So he's not done. | ||
| Complaining about these people launched into this tirade by the troll bid on his eBay auction. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| That's because of fluoride. | ||
| No, it's about not breastfeeding. | ||
| Not breastfeeding. | ||
| And then he gets into some groups of people he hates. | ||
| They pumped you full of yourself and told you you were the elite and got you all arrogant and slack-jawed and smiley-faced. | ||
| You know the spirit I'm talking about. | ||
| The attitude. | ||
| Devil. | ||
| The cowardly attitude. | ||
| Of these little metrosexual men out there today and all of these preening, psycho, worldly women. | ||
| Oh, those women! | ||
| Who have had more abortions than they've bought cars in their lives. | ||
| They get an abortion every two years, get a new car every two years. | ||
| Who gets a new car every two years? | ||
| You didn't care about that baby? | ||
| Well, the elite doesn't care about you either, honey. | ||
| That baby wasn't a human being? | ||
| Well, you're not either. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| So, a lot of that goodwill we were feeling earlier. | ||
| We're back into comfortable territory. | ||
| Homophobic. | ||
| Misogynistic. | ||
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Hypocritical. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Oh, these women with their abortions. | ||
| I've only paid for like 15 of them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How many cars have you bought? | ||
| 30? | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| Every two years. | ||
| Every two years I pay for another abortion. | ||
| Yeah, it's nuts, man. | ||
| What is... | ||
| That is right in... | ||
| We're a boat that is coming to dock. | ||
| Yeah, now we're right in there. | ||
| Now the storm has passed, Dan. | ||
| Also, remember when people used to complain about metrosexuals? | ||
| I know. | ||
| That was a fun time. | ||
| That was a fun time. | ||
| Oh, these men are acting like they're not from the 50s. | ||
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With their jeans. | |
| Dan, their jeans fit. | ||
| You should get random genes. | ||
| Spell genes. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| All right. | ||
|
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I got it. | |
| I got it. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| All right, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Spell genes. | ||
|
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Come on. | |
| You're going to get a negative one point for that. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| I don't know how to do this to you. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| I don't know what to do. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Alex Jones' first guest. | ||
| No. | ||
| On the ninth. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| There's a guy by the name of Russell Means. | ||
| Does that name mean anything to you? | ||
| Spell Means. | ||
| M-E-A-N-S. | ||
| He is a Native American activist who's been doing sit-ins and occupations of Alcatraz, other locations since the late 60s. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So far I'm on board. | ||
| He is a gentleman who believes in Lakota rights and original peoples. | ||
| Still good. | ||
| He and I are getting along so far. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| He's on Alex's show. | ||
| It's not a great sign. | ||
| No, but it's weird. | ||
| It's not a great sign. | ||
| It goes back to him being mad at the cops. | ||
| But it's like when the Reasonable Scientist was on a show. | ||
| Do you remember that one? | ||
| Dean Adele? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Man, never gonna not think he's Dean Adele. | ||
| But at least Dean Adele was like... | ||
| Dean Adele? | ||
| Dean Adele was at least... | ||
| He is a broadcaster and shit. | ||
|
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Right, right. | |
| And he was utterly bewildered by Alex. | ||
| I have good news and bad news about Russell Maynes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I support his... | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I means that he has a lot of good ideas, and I support them in terms of Native American issues. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| First Peoples issues. | ||
| You are really trying to cover your bases here. | ||
| No, but throughout the interview, he gets into, like, it's the Rothschilds, and stuff like that. | ||
| All right. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| Here we go. | ||
| But at the same time, in 2009, Alex was willing to have someone who has made their entire life about... | ||
| Trying to get rights for a minority group. | ||
| Which is, again, crazy. | ||
| I mean, what do you view somebody, like, if we have a massive speaker, like somebody who is tirelessly campaigning for equal pay for women, and they just will not fucking give it up, and they do so much good in their life, but then at a certain point you find out it's like... | ||
| And the reason that I've been campaigning for women is because everyone who doesn't campaign for women is controlled by the devil. | ||
| And you're like, ooh, I support what you're doing and I'm just going to look over. | ||
| I'm going to look over this one part where you think it's the devil. | ||
| Because at the end of the day, it could be the devil, it could be Paul Ryan, it doesn't matter. | ||
| They're all evil. | ||
| You're looking at the wrong thing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm not concerned about where Russell's motivation comes from. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Become beholden to late in life. | ||
| Because I don't think he was on that tip in the mid-late 60s when he was an activist. | ||
| And throughout his life he was an activist. | ||
| I'm not going to take that away from him. | ||
| I will say that I did not have time to do a massive deep dive into Russell Means' life. | ||
| But from what I could gather, a lot of it... | ||
| Russell Means' life sounds like a great name for... | ||
| His website was Russell Means Freedom. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| That's clever. | ||
| But I don't judge the Rothschild narrative becoming a piece of his thing. | ||
| I don't give a shit about that. | ||
| I'm concerned with the idea that in 2009, Alex Jones had a Native American activist on the show, and he was like, yep. | ||
|
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Absolutely. | |
| He wasn't talking about how it's a plan to separate us and balkanize us, divide and conquer these Native Americans who want rights. | ||
| It's all the globalists just trying to make white people feel guilty. | ||
| It wasn't anything like that. | ||
| He was talking to him from a position of like, I agree with you. | ||
| And that's nuts. | ||
| That is nuts. | ||
| Now this next clip is even more nuts. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I want to shift gears in the time we have left with him on the parallels between what's happening to the Gazans because they're dead and dying right now. | ||
| Gaza children found with mothers' corpses. | ||
| The New York Times. | ||
| The International Committee of the Red Cross said Thursday it had discovered shocking scenes including small children next to their mothers' corpses. | ||
| Well, at least with a wounded knee they killed all the kids too. | ||
| When its representatives gained access for the first time to parts of Gaza battered by Israeli shelling, it accused Israel of failing to meet obligations to care for the wounded in the combat areas. | ||
| So, that part where he's talking about at least they killed the children, that's dark comedy. | ||
| That's dark humor. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That one I'm just going to pass over. | ||
| And you should. | ||
| That's just him. | ||
| That's just... | ||
| I think you should. | ||
| I got you. | ||
| I got you now. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| It took me a second. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| I was getting defensive. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| And I think... | ||
| Who is this man? | ||
| Who is this man, Dan? | ||
| There's so many other... | ||
| There's a couple other instances that were too garbled and way out of context. | ||
| We'd have to listen to much longer clips in order to get the sound bite to make sense. | ||
| But there are a number of other points where he's fucking critical of Israel. | ||
| The thing I want to take away from this clip is a very strong message to all of the people out there who claim that Alex Jones refuses to talk about Israel. | ||
| Go fuck yourself. | ||
| He does. | ||
| At least in 2009, I don't know how this changes over time or whatever, but him saying they're killing the people in Gaza, like that... | ||
| That's as far as you need to go for at least a first step, you know? | ||
| That's something that if he was, as his critics, his anti-Semitic critics, alleged that he works for Mossad, he would never fucking say something like that. | ||
| Well, even more bananas! | ||
| Because most, if not all people, no matter how liberal that they were or professed to be at that time, were still avoiding the talk of Israel's war crimes as much as humanly possible. | ||
| Like, it doesn't matter who you were back then. | ||
| There's a 98% chance you were like, ooh, I'm not talking about Israel. | ||
| The fact that Alex is at that... | ||
| Oh, man, this is so weird. | ||
| The fact that Alex Jones... | ||
| Is literally coming out and saying that Israel is committing war crimes at a time period where Obama would not even talk about that shit. | ||
| If you brought up Israel, Obama at that time would have been like, you know, and then moved on as fast as possible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, this is bananas. | ||
| And what's even more fucked up is, like I said, there are more clips of him. | ||
| Bananas. | ||
| I don't know how to deal with this. | ||
| I don't either. | ||
| It almost feels like we need to do a spin-off show about Alex in 2009 that is not related to the Knowledge Fight show. | ||
| Because this is a completely different person. | ||
| No, that's what the show is from now on. | ||
| I don't care about the present. | ||
| Like we said on the last episode, it's all distractions. | ||
| It's all this obfuscating and dumb. | ||
| I would much rather figure out... | ||
| Where does the breaking point come? | ||
| Because it has to... | ||
| It wasn't Trump. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, we proved that. | ||
| When we went back to 2015, he was a fucking monster. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Before Trump. | ||
| He was saying that the day after the Charleston shooting, he said, well... | ||
| This guy really wanted to be racist. | ||
| He should have been an abortion doctor. | ||
| Like, that kind of shit. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That guy was already there in 2015. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it had to have been something before that where it just, everything went wrong. | ||
| Because as much, as much, as, like, this guy that we're listening to in 2009 does suck. | ||
| He sucks. | ||
| No, no, no, for sure. | ||
| Because you're seeing him shit on women who've had abortions when he secretly had 10 at this point and doesn't admit to it. | ||
| So many. | ||
| He's garbage. | ||
| He's yelling about how, like, oh, if you're a critic of mine, you just weren't breastfed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's a dick, and he's clearly a manipulative gold salesman slash broken bullhorn salesman. | ||
| Of course. | ||
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But... | |
| Which is a tough job to get. | ||
| It is really hard to become a broken bullhorn salesman. | ||
| It's like a hard double major. | ||
| Super hard to get. | ||
| But the narratives that we're seeing, you know, like with the cop shooting of Oscar Grant, with him talking about Israel bombing people in Gaza and its murder. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Those sorts of things are things you could talk about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like nowadays, nothing he talks about, you can talk about. | ||
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Right. | |
| Nothing. | ||
| No, it's a conversation. | ||
| It's just like I've talked about so many times. | ||
| If you are on the right... | ||
| It's not like I hate conservatives or right-wing people so much as it is like they should just be ignored because if you can't have a conversation about what the best way to tackle climate change is, if you aren't willing to be like, well... | ||
| Here's how we should tackle it versus how you want to tackle it. | ||
| That's a conversation. | ||
| If you just say, nah, it doesn't exist, then fuck off. | ||
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Go away. | |
| This is in Alex Jones where you're like... | ||
| Okay, well, how do we tackle this police brutality issue? | ||
| How do we tackle the unchecked fucking power of these people, which is clearly based in a white supremacy that we're just not past? | ||
| This is an Alex who you can actually have a conversation with about how to correct these issues because he notices what the issues are. | ||
| You can go to the second step. | ||
| Yeah, I don't understand. | ||
| How it is this guy goes from that? | ||
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Is it really just team sports? | |
| I don't think so. | ||
| Is that all it really is? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
|
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Like, is it just that people have turned... | |
| From whatever advanced knowledge I have of the other episodes I've listened to in 2009, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Alright, this is going to be wild. | ||
| I'm going to have to recalibrate my entire belief system now. | ||
| But we've got to keep this fresh. | ||
| This is super weird. | ||
| I am scared. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So don't be scared. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex Jones says something very insulting about Native Americans to this Native American activist. | ||
| I mean, at least the glass bead wampum had some visual value but was still a scam to sell New York. | ||
| Now they just show you an empty box and say, look at how beautiful it is, and we sell our whole souls, sell our future. | ||
| So people make fun of the Native Americans, you know, buying the pretty blue and red glass beads and nails and knives and hair combs. | ||
| But, I mean, we've sold our souls for nothing. | ||
| I would argue that the people who you make fun of or you're pointing the finger at are the people who offered the beads. | ||
| I think that's more the lesson of history is look at these shitty white dudes manipulating people. | ||
| I don't know if Alex is getting the wrong lesson from very basic history, but it seems like he might be thinking that everyone's laughing at the Native Americans for accepting that as opposed to, Bleh. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| This is... | ||
| But if you followed my feelings throughout this whole thing, it would be the EKG of a man having a heart attack. | ||
| Like, I'm going up and down so fucking... | ||
| But you did hear Russell laugh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He got it. | ||
| There's good spirit behind it. | ||
| It's not like he's saying this and he's like, hey, fuck you, man. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| So a little later, Alex Jones has a visit from someone we know very well. | ||
| A dear friend of ours. | ||
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That's such a weird thing. | |
| Just the idea of a man who says wampum. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just that concept. | ||
| And it's not like a hack bit. | ||
| You hear wampum sometimes in hack jokes. | ||
| No, this is a man who's like... | ||
| Wampum is a totally legitimate thing to say. | ||
| But I think he was using it for effect. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| No, I think he uses it conversationally. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We don't have enough context. | ||
| I would argue, and I think, that it's the same thing as him saying, hey, at least at Wounded Knee they killed all the children. | ||
| That's dark comedy. | ||
| But I think it's that same sort of thing. | ||
| I don't think he's saying it in any insulting way. | ||
| I think he's saying it with a wink and a nod. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I wouldn't go that far. | ||
| I'm giving a lot of leeway because of the other stuff. | ||
| I don't think he's saying it with a wink and a nod. | ||
| I think he's saying it in pure ignorance of like, well, there's nothing wrong with saying wampum. | ||
| That's a normal thing that happened in 1940s Looney Tunes cartoons. | ||
| So it's clearly fine. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Anyway, we get a visit on the show from a buddy. | ||
| A buddy of ours. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| An old friend. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| No. | ||
| Stevie Larry Nicks? | ||
| Still haven't seen him in 2009 yet. | ||
| When does he show up? | ||
| He's got to be creeping around somewhere, though. | ||
| When does he show up? | ||
| He's in play. | ||
| Steve Pchenik is in play at some point soon. | ||
| These guys are part of Alex's world, but we just haven't seen them. | ||
| Yeah, they're coming. | ||
| People like Paul Craig Roberts, people like Gerald Salenti are much more regular guests at this point. | ||
| But those dudes have to show up at some point pretty soon. | ||
| You would think. | ||
| And I eagerly await it. | ||
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Right. | |
| Here's the problem. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| With the first Pachennic appearance, that's going to be a banner day for us. | ||
| With this stream that I'm getting all these episodes from. | ||
| I don't know why I'm on this show. | ||
| You're an asshole. | ||
| Nothing is labeled, like, in terms of the episode, just as the dates and stuff like that. | ||
| So I know nothing going in listening to these episodes. | ||
| Thankfully, at this point in Alex Jones' broadcast career, he starts every show by being like, well, today we're going to be talking to X, Y, and Z. Love it. | ||
| And so I can get a sense of what's coming up. | ||
| Classic radio. | ||
| Never does that anymore. | ||
| That's the secret of 2017. | ||
| With modern episodes, you know, up to about, like, 2013 or so, you can find them on YouTube, and I can just see who the guests are and be like, ooh, Hamamoto, let's do this thing, you know? | ||
| Whereas now, I'm like, I'm flying blind. | ||
|
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This is... | |
| To the chat room, Rappaport, I think, is not in play. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I think he came around in, like, 2013 or so. | ||
| I think. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure, but... | ||
| Boy, if Rappaport shows up randomly, that'd be exciting as fuck. | ||
| This is turning into such a weird... | ||
| It's an origin story. | ||
| This is like his blue period. | ||
| This is such a weird artist character arc throughout this whole thing. | ||
| This is bananas. | ||
| This is when Alex was into realism. | ||
| This is when Alex was into post-modernism. | ||
| This is when Alex was a pointillist. | ||
| This is bananas. | ||
| What's fascinating is I think that we have tapped into... | ||
| To some extent, a villain's origin story. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because at this point, you do see the remnants. | ||
| Not remnants. | ||
| The seeds. | ||
| They're only remnants because we know the future. | ||
| Yeah, they're seeds. | ||
| You see the kernels of rationality. | ||
| You see the kernels of like, oh, all right. | ||
| You're thinking. | ||
| And then you see the kernels of delightfulness with the singing along with the highwaymen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The talking about stealing beer out of carts. | ||
| Like, and wistful. | ||
| This is Jack Nicholson's Joker is what this is. | ||
| Sure. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Sure. | ||
| That's a great movie reference. | ||
| And so as this goes along, I think what we're going to see is a man get worse and worse and worse. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, there's no other direction for this to go. | ||
| Either that or for some reason, like, somehow. | ||
| Let's say... | ||
| We continue this investigation, and it turns out in 2010, he peaks in this weird, like, woke, in his words, classical liberal concept, and he's fucking crushing it, and then something bad happens to him. | ||
| Like he falls into a vat of acid. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| Like something horrific has to turn him into the monster that he is today. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Maybe he got hit by a meteor. | ||
| Or, again, was murdered by the globalists and replaced with an Alex Jones chimera. | ||
| I have called it right now, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| That's your prediction? | ||
| Alex Jones, that we know today, was grown in a tank. | ||
| A cow uterus or whatever it is he thinks they are. | ||
| I'm very confused. | ||
| I try and think about life events that have happened, and certainly the divorce was a big event that happened. | ||
| Didn't help. | ||
| But I don't think... | ||
| When was that, like 2015? | ||
| 2015? | ||
| Yeah, that's when it was formalized. | ||
| But I mean, it could have been falling apart for a while before that. | ||
| Oh, they always do. | ||
| And that would actually be the least appealing narrative to me. | ||
| If we go back and it turns out that around when the marriage fell apart, that is when everything changed. | ||
| He lost his mind? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because then it's just like... | ||
| That would be such a bummer. | ||
| Then it's just a sad human story. | ||
| That'd be such a bummer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You kind of want it to have more... | ||
| There's got to be some drama. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But who knows? | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Who's our friend? | ||
| I don't know who our friend is. | ||
| You're the one who runs this fucking show. | ||
| I'll give you 20 questions to figure out who our friend is. | ||
| Alright, is he white? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| How dare you even ask that? | ||
| It's like we're playing Guess Who all over. | ||
| I was just thinking the same thing. | ||
| Is he a pseudoscientist? | ||
| No. | ||
| Is he a climate denier? | ||
| Debatable. | ||
| Debatable, that's not a good answer. | ||
| That's not essential to his character. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Is he a player? | ||
| Is he a player in the game? | ||
| Is he like a secret agent type? | ||
| He doesn't have any insider information? | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Is he former law enforcement of any kind? | ||
| Not that I'm aware of, and not that matters. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That doesn't come into this. | ||
| Is he Hamamoto? | ||
| No. | ||
|
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I wish. | |
| I haven't said his name yet in the show, if that narrows it down. | ||
| Oh, well then now I don't even fucking know! | ||
| I mean, just today. | ||
| Oh wait, no, tonight. | ||
|
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Just today. | |
| Okay, alright. | ||
| Well then fuck it. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| No, no, you keep going. | ||
| No, I don't have any more questions. | ||
| Yes, you do. | ||
| I have so many more questions. | ||
| I just have too many questions. | ||
|
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You can get there. | |
| Come on, you can do this. | ||
| I believe in you. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I believe. | ||
| Is he a member of a former Republican administration? | ||
| No. | ||
| Never been in politics. | ||
| Never been in politics? | ||
| Not that I'm aware of. | ||
| I got nothing. | ||
| He's been on our show exactly one time. | ||
| Well, then how the fuck am I supposed to know? | ||
| I don't even remember. | ||
| We talked to Stevie Larry Nixon. | ||
| I forget his name half the time. | ||
| It's very memorable. | ||
| Is it Charlie Sheen? | ||
| No. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Is it... | ||
| No, I got nothing. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Just tell me. | ||
| Just tell me. | ||
| Don't draw this out. | ||
| Don't draw this out. | ||
| Don't make me feel stupid. | ||
| It's the guy who said that he saw Reagan get buttfucked. | ||
|
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Oh, God! | |
| Goddammit! | ||
| I was actually going to make a reference to that earlier in the show! | ||
| Goddammit! | ||
| It's Bob Chapman! | ||
| Bob Chapman! | ||
| The International Forecaster, Bob Chapman. | ||
| All right. | ||
| He is a guy who runs a publication called The International Forecaster, where they give a bunch of... | ||
| Weather updates? | ||
| Predictions about stuff. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And, hey, guess what we didn't realize from the times we've listened to him? | ||
| He is just a fucking shill for gold sales. | ||
| No! | ||
| I think the only true place to be for safety is gold and silver related assets. | ||
| And if you are a wealthy person and you want to have 20 or 30 or 40 percent of your assets in another safe place or a relatively safe place, I have recommended Swiss franc treasuries. | ||
| Other than that, I don't have anything to offer. | ||
| Okay, so it's getting gold or silver or Swiss bank accounts. | ||
| Reagan getting fucked. | ||
| Swiss bank accounts. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Those are the safe places to put your money. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| Thank you, Bob. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| Oh, so you're coming on... | ||
| Is that all he talked about? | ||
| You're coming on a conspiracy theorist show who is owned by a gold and silver sale operation. | ||
| A fraudulent, a notoriously fraudulent gold and silver sale operation. | ||
| One who has lost his license, well, six years after this, but still. | ||
| Been sued multiple times. | ||
| It takes a long time for the government to actually screw with rich people. | ||
| He's been committing the crimes for a long time. | ||
| And so he comes on and says, the only safe place for you to be. | ||
| Only safe place. | ||
| Only safe place. | ||
| Swiss bank accounts. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which, agreed. | ||
| Is that agreed? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Don't you Cayman Islands it now? | ||
| Don't you do something like that? | ||
| Don't you set up a shell corporation? | ||
| They can fuck with you. | ||
| Like the Miami Marlins have a shell corporation. | ||
| They have an office set up in fucking nowhere with nobody who does it. | ||
| Too risky. | ||
| So anyway, you know, you want to sell gold and silver. | ||
| Bob's got a recommendation for you. | ||
| What's Bob's recommendation? | ||
|
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How you doing, Bob? | |
| What I wanted to add to Bob, pretty much, is it even worth us paying... | ||
| I know it's pretty stupid, but I mean, just asking, since the money is pretty much going to amount to nothing, is it pretty much even worth paying most of these bills and credit card debts and all these sort of things that the American people are going to be having to deal with? | ||
| I mean, if the money is pretty much going to be worth nothing at all? | ||
| Well, you've got to understand that the people that you owe the money to are still going to be within the system. | ||
| There is going to be some kind of a system. | ||
| Maybe it'll break down from time to time, but you're still going to have to pay it off. | ||
| And just because the value of the dollar goes down, it still means that you have to pay those bills. | ||
| The way you protect yourself is to call Midas and purchase gold and silver coins. | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| Too overt. | ||
| No! | ||
| Too overt. | ||
| He was almost giving great financial advice. | ||
| He was really close to it. | ||
| Well, no, because that wasn't good advice. | ||
| That's just don't be an idiot. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| On Alex's show, that qualifies as the best advice anybody's ever given. | ||
| Your debts don't disappear because of bad times. | ||
| That's great! | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But that's a reality check. | ||
| I still pay my credit card bill. | ||
| I don't think the world is going to last another ten years, but I don't want to get fucked over before then. | ||
| That's a reality check to people who are too far gone, for sure. | ||
| But the other thing, the answer is calmitis. | ||
| Yeah, that's not great. | ||
| That's too fucking overt. | ||
| That is too much. | ||
| So... | ||
| This interview goes on a little while. | ||
| No, that's some full-on Better Call Saul type shit right there. | ||
| This interview goes on a little while. | ||
| Which, by the way, speaking of which, they fucking confiscated like 16 burner phones from Michael Cohen. | ||
| That is some for real Better Call Saul type shit right there. | ||
| Like, you saw it in Breaking Bad whenever he opened the drawer with 16 burner phones. | ||
| That's a guy who was the lawyer for the president. | ||
| Find that hilarious. | ||
| The limit on phones is three, for me. | ||
| For burner phones? | ||
| Humans. | ||
| For humans. | ||
| For human phones? | ||
| Three phones. | ||
| You can have three phones. | ||
| If you have 16 phones, why do you have 16 phones? | ||
| Three phones. | ||
| And one of them is in your house. | ||
| One of them is a house phone. | ||
| One's a landline. | ||
| Well, maybe you've got to call into radio shows or something like that. | ||
| It's a better connection. | ||
| You know, that sort of thing. | ||
|
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Is that? | |
| I've heard people talk about that. | ||
| I didn't know. | ||
| I've heard that from people. | ||
| Maybe they don't use Skype. | ||
| Just get a solid VoIP. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| But look, I'll accept that as one phone. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That's one phone. | ||
| Personal cell. | ||
| Wireless. | ||
| Business. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| You got three? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| More than that, you have... | ||
| You are committing crimes! | ||
| To quote Mr. Arnaz, you got some splaining to do. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| You know what? | ||
|
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I'll go four. | |
| I'll go four. | ||
| I'll go four with the fourth being a wild card that I can't explain, but someone has a good explanation for. | ||
| Hey, you're cheating on your wife. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I have an affair. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| Why not? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You know, that sounds fun. | ||
| Four makes sense. | ||
| Five, you're crazy. | ||
| That seems like more than enough circumstantial evidence for any jury to convict you of literally anything. | ||
| It's like, this guy had 16 phones. | ||
| They're like, oh yeah, he probably did some illegal shit. | ||
| He had 16 phones! | ||
| What kind of human being has 16 phones that isn't committing a crime? | ||
| It's one of those times that I wish this argument would hold up in court. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Yeah, exactly, right? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| You put your elbow down on the juror box. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| He's got 16 votes. | ||
|
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Come on. | |
| Come on. | ||
| Guys. | ||
| Objection, Your Honor. | ||
|
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Hey. | |
| Sustain. | ||
| Your Honor. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Let's have a sidebar. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| So, they take some more calls. | ||
| He's got 16 votes. | ||
| They take some more calls. | ||
| And as much as we've enjoyed Alex being mad at the cops about how they killed an unarmed black man, which we've enjoyed. | ||
| Uncharacteristic reasonability. | ||
| It turns out that some of that might have more to do with hating the cops in 2009. | ||
| He got pulled over, didn't he? | ||
| He got some kind of ticky-tack bullshit. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think it just... | ||
| I'm not entirely sure that... | ||
| I can't explain it, but I do know that it's not that he cares about black people. | ||
| Yeah, well, of course. | ||
| Because, listen to this. | ||
| Well, here's some good news. | ||
| Here's some good news. | ||
| I went to the mall, because the lady that cuts my hair is in the mall. | ||
| I don't normally go to the mall. | ||
| I don't really like that culture. | ||
| But I'm in there, and I had three separate black guys, two of them working at little kiosks, stop me and go, you know, I always liked you for years, but kind of got upset at first when you didn't like Obama, but I want to... | ||
| Basically apologize. | ||
| You were right about Obama, and I can see his betrayal. | ||
| So give him some time. | ||
| The people who won't wake up is white yuppies, because they're just so arrogant, they're so trusting in the system that... | ||
| Bob Chapman, you want to comment on that? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It's perfect. | ||
| Reagan got buck-fucked. | ||
| It's perfect. | ||
| The reason that I think that that is racist in character is because he says that he doesn't like the culture of malls, and then immediately is like, a bunch of black people come over and told me that they're sorry about criticizing me for not liking Obama. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I did not get that. | ||
| The fact that his mind went so quickly to apologetic black people coming up to him in the mall after he said he didn't like the culture of the mall. | ||
| The culture of the mall thing did not bother me at all. | ||
| I don't like the culture of the mall. | ||
| It has nothing to do with race. | ||
| I think the race issue comes up when he specifically says three black people in his traditional style of... | ||
| This is a made-up thing, and I have to specifically point out minorities in order to bolster my credibility as though I have any amongst minorities. | ||
| But I also think, from context clues, and even though we're so thrown by this man in 2009, I still think I understand his brain pretty well. | ||
| Oh no, he's still a virulent racist. | ||
| And when he says, I don't like the culture of the mall, I think he's responding to black people being at the mall. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Because he so quickly is saying... | ||
| Okay, if you listen to that clip, he starts with, here's the good news. | ||
| I don't like the culture of the mall, but I was at the mall because I had to get a haircut, and black people came up to me and apologized. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The track of that sentence leads a person, a reasonable thinking person, to assume... | ||
| That the culture he doesn't like in the mall has something to do with the black people who apologize to him. | ||
| I can see that. | ||
| Generally, he doesn't like it when black people don't apologize to him at the mall when he's there. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| And the good news is the last time he was there, three of them did. | ||
|
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That's how I parse the sentence. | |
| I get that. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| I'm going to be honest, though. | ||
| My own personal biases... | ||
| I also don't like malls. | ||
| My own personal biases came out and I was like, oh, he doesn't like the youths. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He watched Mallrats in the 90s and was like, oh, I hate malls! | ||
| They're all going to try and put shit on my pretzels. | ||
|
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Also, what do you mean you don't like the culture of malls? | |
| You get your hair cut in a mall. | ||
| You can get your hair cut anywhere. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There are so many places. | ||
| There's salons down the street from your fucking office. | ||
| You live in Austin, you dumb fucker. | ||
| Yeah, come on. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| You can get your hair cut fucking anywhere. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| And also... | ||
| Now, that's a lady that we should interview. | ||
| It would be better if Alex... | ||
| I want to know about the lady who cut Alex Jones' hair in 2009. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Probably took about 45 seconds. | ||
| Still did not have a whole lot of hair back then, says the guy with a ridiculous mane that I'm... | ||
| Hey. | ||
| Hey, hey, don't talk about receding hairlines, folks. | ||
| I like having this hair, but man, I don't like how much it costs to get it cut. | ||
| So I shan't. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| My bill is going down as my hairline recedes, I'll tell you that right now. | ||
| Well, that's the good news. | ||
| No black people have come up to me to tell me about how apologetic they are about my hairline. | ||
| So we have one more clip. | ||
| And it's just further bringing home. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've said this to you a couple times. | ||
| I've said this to other friends. | ||
| To Jesus in your quiet moments. | ||
| I regret not naming this show. | ||
| They're all con men. | ||
| Because I think that more than talking about Alex Jones, we talk a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the through line is... | ||
| All these other people who come up on his show, all the people who are involved with Project Camelot, all these like Gavin McGinnis, Mike Cernovich, Jack Posobiec, Steve Pachanek even, Hamamoto, they're all fucking con men. | ||
| Everybody, they're all con men. | ||
| Milo. | ||
| Milo. | ||
| Milo's a clunky con man. | ||
| But all of these people are running elaborate cons. | ||
| So you regret... | ||
| Not naming our show something that is even harder to find than our Facebook group. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| But the reason I bring this up is that you got Bob Chapman on here, and he said the only safe thing to do is buy gold and silver. | ||
| And fuck Reagan in the butt. | ||
| And then he said to a caller, what you need to do is call Midas. | ||
| And so here's how this show ends up. | ||
| We are back live with Bob Chapman. | ||
| I'm going to come back in the next little segment and take a few more calls. | ||
| But right now, briefly, I wanted Bob and Ted Anderson to have a chance to talk because I know the Midas Resources also offers a trial copy of the International Forecaster. | ||
| Real quick. | ||
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Wait, what? | |
| Real quick. | ||
| That is some cross-promotion right there. | ||
| That is corporate synergy, Dan. | ||
| That's just great business. | ||
| Bob Chapman's publication is distributed, at least in part, by Midas Resources. | ||
| So when he tells people to call Midas, he is... | ||
| Doing a quid pro quo in some way for help with distribution. | ||
| And they're all doing it on this show in public. | ||
| It's fucking amazing. | ||
| So good. | ||
| But Ted is doing... | ||
| Gold is up again today, but Ted bought it a few weeks ago at the $7.60 level. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Again, the price is close to... | ||
| I guess $90 under what it is right now, so he factors that into the savings. | ||
| Ted told folks out there about today and throughout the weekend the gold offer, and then I don't know what Bob's going to say. | ||
| I want to see what he's going to say because he's a great analyst on this of how good a deal he thinks it is. | ||
| Bob Chapman and Ted Anderson, you guys talk. | ||
| Yeah, well, basically... | ||
| That's code for I want to eat a sandwich. | ||
| I don't know what he's going to say. | ||
| He's probably going to say it's a good deal, but I don't know what he's going to say about it. | ||
| I predict Bob Chapman's going to be suspicious of this deal. | ||
| What would you give for Ted to go on and be like, today's not a good day. | ||
| Not great. | ||
| Today's not a good day to buy gold. | ||
| Wait until tomorrow. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Basically what I have right now, Alex, I mean, gold did edge up again today and seen a peak of 868.90, which means it is getting stronger. | ||
| The unemployment figures came out way low. | ||
| I mean, way higher than what it was. | ||
| Oh, exactly. | ||
| The economy here is melting down. | ||
| What I did is I picked up some Franks here just a short while ago at that price level that you're referring to. | ||
| Love a Frank. | ||
| And they're currently at 204, where the British servant is at 252. | ||
| You made the mist. | ||
| Walking Liberty halves are at 840. | ||
| What a deal. | ||
| Frank Langella. | ||
| Obviously, with the economy melting down, I just can't think of a better time than getting involved in the gold and silver. | ||
| Plus, also having the support of rising market prices. | ||
| You know, just the whole thing. | ||
| I mean, that gun issue that you're talking about earlier on should make people's blood boil. | ||
| So even Ted Anderson, as a... | ||
| The energetic force on this show is saying, like... | ||
| In order to help sell my gold, I'm going to refer back to a gun issue that you were talking about. | ||
| And spoiler alert, that was Alex earlier in the show talking about how everyone's going to get their guns taken. | ||
| And he's like, I don't remember the name of the bill. | ||
| I've been meaning to cover it. | ||
| Make your guns out of gold! | ||
| They'll never be able to take them then! | ||
| He's like, I don't remember the name of the bill, but I'm going to get to it. | ||
| I can't find it. | ||
| And then it turns out it's a World Net Daily fucking article. | ||
| Like, that's not a bill. | ||
| It didn't fucking happen. | ||
| And also, real fun, I mean, these people are fucking so overt. | ||
| They're so fucking lunatic. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| There's only one clip that I wish I would have pulled, and that's where Bob Chapman is like, you better bury your guns and ammunition. | ||
| See, now there we go. | ||
| He's read the book. | ||
| Where to hide your guns, my friend. | ||
| That's a man who hides his guns. | ||
| It might be even further synergy that we're unaware of, that Bob Chapman owns wheretohideyourguns.com. | ||
| Is that still up? | ||
|
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I think it might be. | |
| Someone told me it might be. | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| Anyway, we gotta wrap this up. | ||
| We've gotten to the end of this exploration of three days in January 2009, and here's what I think are the important takeaways. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One, Alex is already giving unacceptable and unexplainable pro-Russian narratives in 2009 for major world events. | ||
| But he's still, at this time, he's sneaking them in. | ||
| Somewhat. | ||
| He's not spending 25 minutes talking about it. | ||
| He's just tossing in like, hey, everything Russia does is great. | ||
| We're going to move on. | ||
| Can't buy toys. | ||
| Doesn't bring it back up on the 9th at all. | ||
| It never came up. | ||
| Why would it? | ||
| I didn't just selectively edit. | ||
| As you said, the situation was resolved immediately. | ||
| It took two weeks. | ||
| Wait, it took two weeks? | ||
| People were dying. | ||
| I assume he brought it up again. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He didn't. | ||
| We might see that in the next episode. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| You've already said he doesn't. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| You do. | ||
| I don't actually know all that much. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because actually Alex goes on vacation. | ||
| I should be clear about that. | ||
|
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*laughter* | |
| That's a little piece I know. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Alex then bounces. | ||
| Alex has a vacation. | ||
| He has a guy named Jason Burmus host. | ||
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What is that? | |
| I have no idea who that guy is. | ||
| I have no idea who that guy is. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Now I'm interested. | ||
| He's a character from these days and not present. | ||
| Is he better than Owen Schroyer? | ||
| I would bet money he's come out since he quit and said that Alex is full of shit. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Because most of his old employees have. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But... | ||
| The other thing that I think is important is that Alex is a racist, but not that racist. | ||
| Which is interesting. | ||
| Also, he's willing to talk negatively about Israel. | ||
| He's one of those reflexive racists at this point in time. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It's deep in there. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's not so much that he is out and out voting for racism, which is what he is now. | ||
| It's more like it's just... | ||
| He's a good old boy who was raised in Texas, so of course he's fucking racist. | ||
| It's the underlying... | ||
| Yeah, like even when he's trying not to be racist, he's still going to throw in a wampum. | ||
| Like, he's just a monster. | ||
| But also, at the same time, still willing to have an interview with a guy who is there for first people's rights. | ||
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Yeah, absolutely. | |
| Which is pretty crazy compared to the press. | ||
| Bananas. | ||
| Also... | ||
| I don't know if he's ever even spoken to a non-white person in the past two years. | ||
| Aside from the nation of Islam. | ||
| Farrakhan? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's had Candace Owens on, who Kanye really loves. | ||
| Let's not talk about it. | ||
| You know, I think there's a lot of interesting threads here, and I hope that we're able to get to the bottom of a lot of them. | ||
| This is a whole new wrinkle. | ||
| I'm so fascinated by this. | ||
| How much does he sell the bullhorn for? | ||
| That's what we've got to find out. | ||
| Do we not know how much he winds up selling it for? | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| There was a $50,000 bid. | ||
| That's all we know. | ||
| That can't be real. | ||
| Might be. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I want that bullhorn. | ||
| We've got to wrap this up. | ||
| It's deeply in the past. | ||
| You're never going to find this bullhorn. | ||
| You can first off follow us at knowledge underscore fight on Twitter. | ||
| And knowledgefight.com. | ||
| If you know where this bullhorn is, you better goddamn tweet it at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I'll tell you that right fucking now. | ||
| Or you can send us a message on Facebook. | ||
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All Bullhorn-related messages are welcome. | |
| Or you could leave a five-star Bullhorn review on iTunes. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You could definitely do that. | ||
| If you leave a review on iTunes and mention Terror Crusher 1, we will send you a shirt that we don't have. | ||
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Who knows? | |
| All right, let's wrap this up. | ||
| What else do we got? | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, if you want to support the show, go to knowledgefight.com, click support the show, and then mail us Tyranny Crusher 1. Sure. | ||
| That's the best way to support this show. | ||
| God damn it, if I get a broken bullhorn in the mail and it's not Tyranny Crusher 1. Just another broken bullhorn? | ||
| It's just a regular broken bullhorn. | ||
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Horrible. | |
| With Tyranny Crusher 1 spray-painted on it? | ||
| If that happens, I will know that it was CENTCOM that did it. | ||
| You know what I'll do? | ||
| Sell it for 50 grand. | ||
| I'll tell you that right now. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Anyway, it's your turn. | ||
| It's my turn? | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| You know exactly what... | ||
| It's like the number of people... | ||
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No. | |
| Oh. | ||
| Do you think it's going to be related to this show that we just did? | ||
| This was fantastic, but you know who I want to go fuck themselves. | ||
| All the Democrats in the world? | ||
| You're goddamn fucking right! | ||
| Eh, go fuck yourselves. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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