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March 9, 2018 - Knowledge Fight
01:53:12
#135: The Wikileaks Press Conference

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about October 4, 2016, when Alex Jones got super duper excited about how Julian Assange was doing a press conference about how evil Hillary Clinton was. In reality, Assange was only doing a press conference about how Wikileaks had existed for 10 years, so the Gents just get to enjoy 2 hours of Alex slowly getting more mad.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
15:51
d
dan friesen
52:30
j
jordan holmes
33:02
Appearances
d
darrin mcbreen
01:30
o
owen shroyer
01:41
Clips
j
julian assange
00:05
r
rob dew
00:40
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Alex, I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
Your camera is looking great, even though it got knocked over twice.
jordan holmes
All right.
Dan?
dan friesen
It looks fantastic.
jordan holmes
Dan, you don't need to do off-camera stuff on camera.
dan friesen
I just wanted you to feel confident.
jordan holmes
I'm always confident, Dan.
dan friesen
Indeed.
jordan holmes
That's not true.
dan friesen
So today, Jordan, our novelty beverages is a collection of spices.
Spiked seltzers.
Four different flavors we got in front of us.
We got Cape Cod cranberry.
jordan holmes
I don't even know what a spiked seltzer is.
dan friesen
We got Indian River grapefruit.
That's exciting.
jordan holmes
I don't know what that means.
dan friesen
More weird flavors.
jordan holmes
Where's Indian River?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
And why do they grow grapefruits?
dan friesen
Doesn't matter to me at all.
All I care about is fun, fun, sparkling water.
jordan holmes
All right, let's see how this fucking goes.
dan friesen
This is payback for you making fun of Ice Mountain.
jordan holmes
It's good!
unidentified
Garbage!
dan friesen
How dare you?
I've had three cents that episode.
Anyway, this is a podcast where we talk about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
It tastes like water that went bad.
Like, I don't even know how water can go bad.
dan friesen
There is an expiration date on most bottled waters.
jordan holmes
You should know that.
But it's water!
You can't even do that.
dan friesen
My God, that's delicious.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Is there a...
jordan holmes
Yes.
I'm flustered!
dan friesen
Sorry.
jordan holmes
I'm flustered.
You come at me with the water thing twice.
dan friesen
Jordan, there's a hook to this podcast.
jordan holmes
Is there?
Is there?
What is it, Dan?
dan friesen
It's that I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
How much do I know about Alex Jones?
dan friesen
Almost nothing.
jordan holmes
Almost nothing.
dan friesen
Quite a bit at this point, but essentially, functionally nothing.
jordan holmes
The good news is my memory is almost non-existent.
dan friesen
Right.
It's like Swiss cheese.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today, before we get into today's episode, which I promise you is going to be an amazing amount of fun.
jordan holmes
You know what?
It's actually pretty good.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I think you did a good job, Dan.
dan friesen
You know what else has done a good job?
jordan holmes
No!
No transitions this time!
dan friesen
Our donors.
We've got a couple new policy wonks to give a shout-out to.
I'd like to give a shout-out to Lauren.
Thank you so much for joining up with the show.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Lauren, and I did love the miseducation of you.
That was a great album.
dan friesen
Talking about Hill?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Okay.
I'd also like to give a shout-out to someone who took their donation, bumped it up a little bit.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
We appreciate it so much.
You are now a foreign policy wonk.
Thank you so much, Mavis.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
dan friesen
We appreciate it so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much.
I don't know any famous Mavises.
dan friesen
Mavis Beacon teaches typing.
How could you not go with that one?
jordan holmes
How do you just pull Mavis Beacon teaches typing?
dan friesen
My mom was a computer teacher when I was growing up.
A lot of keys.
Oregon Trail.
jordan holmes
Not all of our moms were...
Computer teachers growing up.
dan friesen
Everyone played Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing.
jordan holmes
I played Oregon Trail.
I went number crunching.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Word crunching.
What was the one where you solved puzzles?
dan friesen
Did you play Sopwith?
jordan holmes
I don't know what that is.
alex jones
Hard Hat Mac?
dan friesen
Some of these real early Mac games?
jordan holmes
Nope.
Didn't have Mac.
dan friesen
Let's not dig too deep into it.
jordan holmes
No, that's a bad idea.
dan friesen
So Jordan, today, Alex Jones is once again on vacation.
Up?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex Jones is once again on vacation.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so the health ranger, Mike Adams.
jordan holmes
The health ranger.
dan friesen
He's the guy who started...
jordan holmes
What is a health ranger?
dan friesen
He's the guy who started naturalnews.com that puts out a bunch of real bad misinformation about health.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And what have you.
Also, it's where Anthony...
jordan holmes
If you eat a bear, you become a bear!
dan friesen
Basically.
Yeah.
Anthony Gucci already wrote for them for a really long time and then would use...
Stuff he had written on naturalnews.com to be a story on InfoWars.
It's a very incestuous loop that they have going on.
jordan holmes
Okay, what kind of stuff would be on?
Like, I assume anti-vaccine stuff is on there.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
What else do we got?
dan friesen
You got, like, acai berry will cure you of everything.
I don't know.
I assume it's in league with that.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And the same sort of homeopathic nonsense.
unidentified
Great, great, great.
jordan holmes
I love a website that promotes nothing.
dan friesen
Yeah, don't...
jordan holmes
Hey, eat the...
It's a sugar pill.
dan friesen
Basically, yeah.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
There's a lot of that, and they sell a lot of items and what have you.
jordan holmes
Remember when everybody was into ginkgo biloba for a while?
dan friesen
Boy, they loved it.
jordan holmes
Big deal.
Don't hear much about the bilobes anymore.
dan friesen
The noise has gone down a bit for the biloba.
The thing is, for a long time, Mike Adams was Alex Jones' number two.
He was the guy who Alex would get to fill in for him any time he was gone.
jordan holmes
I did not know that.
dan friesen
Yeah, so back in 2009-ish or around that period, Mike Adams was there all the time.
But it's been years since he's filled in for Alex.
jordan holmes
So maybe they had a falling out?
dan friesen
I don't think so.
I think he just didn't need him because he had David Knight in-house.
jordan holmes
That can't be the reason.
dan friesen
It seems suspicious.
jordan holmes
We don't need you because we have the most...
The most boring guy in the history of the world.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
They could have had some sort of falling out, but I think it's more an issue of, like, hey, just...
jordan holmes
Brokeback Mountain.
dan friesen
Gotcha.
Anything is possible, but I think the fact that he's coming back into the fold now is kind of telling, and that Alex needs a steady hand.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Somebody you can trust, a real man.
Because Mike Adams is much more of a man than your boring-ass David Knight, your soft youngin' in the form of Owen Schroyer.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Milo Yiannopoulos is a dishy gay man.
So you need that sort of Alex replacement.
And while Mike Adams doesn't necessarily get freaked out and scream all the time...
He's more in line with that, what the audience wants to see out of masculinity than a lot of the other people.
jordan holmes
So we're getting a guy coming out of retirement for one last job.
So I assume at the end of this, Mike Adams goes down for all of the crimes Alex has committed, right?
dan friesen
If this were a fun movie, yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there we go.
dan friesen
Also, I've been listening to episodes from 2008, and I've noticed that sometimes Alex Jones comes back from break with the Pink Panther theme song.
And I'm starting to think, like...
You are Clouseau.
Except Clouseau is like...
jordan holmes
Occasionally right.
dan friesen
And he gets the job done.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Anyway, it's just...
Fun thoughts.
I have a lot more thoughts about 2008 that we'll get into in the future.
I've embarked on a massive investigation of the beginning of the Tea Party movement through the prism of Alex Jones' show.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Which will be my next...
Why did Alex join up with Joe?
jordan holmes
That's going to be our 2015, but the new one.
dan friesen
I'm finding some really weird stuff.
jordan holmes
The sequel to 2015 investigation.
dan friesen
What happened with the tea party?
jordan holmes
What happened with the...
Is our new series.
dan friesen
Did Alex really start the tea party?
Answer, spoiler alert, no.
unidentified
He didn't.
dan friesen
It was the Koch brothers.
jordan holmes
Wait, did he claim to have?
Of course he did.
Why am I even asking?
Of course he did.
dan friesen
He has some highfalutin ideas, for sure.
jordan holmes
Well, he's Confederate royalty.
dan friesen
So we got that to look forward to.
We got the 2008 investigation stuff that will be coming down the pipe soon.
Also, the Noam Chomsky interview will be coming up soon.
jordan holmes
Excited.
dan friesen
But those things are not for today.
jordan holmes
Not for today?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
What is for today?
dan friesen
I wanted to give everyone a break from Alex.
unidentified
Ooh!
jordan holmes
No, no.
Don't shake your head at me like that.
I got excited.
dan friesen
Don't get your hopes up.
All right.
But Project Camelot's been really disappointing lately.
Uh-huh.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
There was nothing I could do.
All the episodes are like, there's nothing to work with here.
So Project Camelot is out.
And so what I was like, okay, you know what else?
Alex Jones has frequently been a guest on Coast to Coast AM.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Maybe I go find an episode of Coast to Coast AM with George Norrie to talk about.
jordan holmes
So long story short, you went to San Francisco and interviewed Mark Richards on your own.
dan friesen
I did.
I went to the prison.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
dan friesen
No, I was listening to these episodes of Coast to Coast and Alex is really boring because he respects George Norrie so much.
So it's mostly just him saying...
jordan holmes
I don't understand those words you just said.
dan friesen
He keeps telling George Norrie that he's the Sam Adams of the second American revolution.
Shit like that.
jordan holmes
He doesn't...
That's a weird thing to call somebody!
dan friesen
He doesn't scream at all, and the most salacious thing I was able to find was that he just basically lies to George Norrie's face about...
jordan holmes
I fucked your wife!
dan friesen
No, not that.
But he lies to him about Sandy Hook.
Because George Norrie's like, you need to clean up the record about your position on Sandy Hook.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
And I was like, we just had debates.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He gave the company a line.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
And so it was just disappointing, because I don't want to just rehash that.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So I'm like, fuck.
We gotta find something good.
And then I remembered that the 2016 election happened.
I was like...
jordan holmes
Yes, it did.
dan friesen
I was like, there's a lot of content just from that election that we could dig into that would make for a great episode.
And so I was like, I know the audience really wants me to do an episode about election night.
jordan holmes
This is the night.
dan friesen
No, good God, no.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, because I remember you watching that entire night, and that inspired you to make this podcast, because you were so disgusted with humanity.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And I'm not ready to reopen that can of worms.
jordan holmes
Right.
No, it's absolutely unhealthy for you.
dan friesen
We need the show to be at a point where...
Like, we're making millions off it before I open that back up.
Because quite frankly, it was incredibly painful.
jordan holmes
Either that or we need to go to couples therapy to survive you opening that up together.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But then I started to think about it and I remembered a really fun thing that happened on the way to the election.
And that is what we will be covering today.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And that is the time that Julian Assange held a 3 a.m. press conference and Alex Jones covered it live.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, to give you a little bit of context.
Julian Assange held a press conference at three in the morning.
jordan holmes
All right.
I understood that.
dan friesen
And Alex Jones covered it live.
jordan holmes
Dan, you are the most clarifying human being I've ever met.
dan friesen
Do you know anything about this?
jordan holmes
About the press conference?
No.
dan friesen
Do you know anything about Alex's response to the press conference?
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
Oh, my God.
You're going to have so much fun.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Here's the first clip just to set the scene.
alex jones
It's 2.04 Central.
We're live in studio.
Stay with us.
Coverage of WikiLeaks from Germany.
In 55 minutes, but we're about to be live.
dan friesen
So we got it.
It's 2-something in the morning.
jordan holmes
Wait.
dan friesen
Alex Jones is live in studio.
jordan holmes
Wait.
I thought he was live.
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
I mean, he said we're about to be live.
Was this pre-recorded and then they're going to be live?
Or is he live now and he's talking about the press conference?
dan friesen
He's live and he's saying we will be live then also.
He's throwing it to break and he's just like, we're going to be live.
jordan holmes
Wait, so he started his coverage an hour early?
That's too early.
dan friesen
He started it very early.
jordan holmes
Did he have a countdown?
dan friesen
Um, no.
jordan holmes
I feel like you could have started that just a half hour early.
What could he possibly have to say for an hour before Julian Assange comes on?
dan friesen
Alex didn't know what was happening.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And also, I think...
jordan holmes
He just wandered in?
dan friesen
As I've started playing these clips, I've started to...
I remember that I have mentioned this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I think I played a couple clips from the end.
But not the journey.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so while this might be reminiscent to some listeners of something we've talked about before because they have a much better memory than you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, don't worry about it.
I remember none of that.
dan friesen
The ride of Alex Jones at three in the morning is going to be very much worth it.
Okay.
So he was live.
He is going to be live.
He will always be live.
jordan holmes
Oh, I think I remember this press conference.
It was the one where Julian Assange did not say anything of any value.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
So this is when we just take the ride of Alex Jones being so very excited to just dying on the inside over time.
Did I give up the game?
dan friesen
A little bit, but it's still going to be fun to watch.
So Alex believes it to be the day that Hillary Clinton is destroyed.
Okay.
Julian Assange is just giving a 10th anniversary press conference for WikiLeaks.
jordan holmes
That's right.
That's what he was doing.
dan friesen
That is what's going on.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex Jones has built it up in his head that it's going to be the day that he releases all of the information about Hillary.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And the reason is revealed in this next clip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Yeah, you are.
alex jones
We've got Owen Schroer right here, one of our great crew members riding shotgun with me.
unidentified
Hi, Alex.
alex jones
It is 2 o 'clock and 8 minutes a.m. Central time.
It's 3.08.
Eastern Time.
dan friesen
What about Greenwich?
alex jones
And we're going to be live here until the WikiLeaks big press conference has come and gone.
Now, their intermediaries, Julian Assange has obviously been in direct contact with Roger Stone.
That's no secret.
And they've been exchanging communiques over the last weekend.
jordan holmes
Soon to be jailed, Roger Stone.
alex jones
Also another source.
For whatever reason, Julian Assange has talked to.
He's never chosen to speak with me.
You're safe, Alex.
And basically relayed the same information.
Assange has always been very judicious about how he releases things to protect the innocent.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
alex jones
In the last ten years, I've had a lot of questions about WikiLeaks, but I've been sold on WikiLeaks the last five or so because I said the big litmus test is when Democrats get in and they do the very same stuff Bush does, will he go after them as well?
And he did.
dan friesen
Will they hurt the people?
I want them to hurt.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That's basically the end of the game.
That's troubling.
Because he said that Roger Stone...
jordan holmes
Yeah, essentially he just said Roger Stone's been committing crimes for a long time now, and so we know for sure that he's a crime committer.
dan friesen
Right now, when he's trying to build this up, I was like, this is going to be the goods.
He has to bolster Roger Stone's credibility and he knows, he's talked to him, but now he's like, how dare you ever say that Roger Stone talked to Wiggy Leaks, you stupid assholes?
jordan holmes
Yeah, and he can't do both because if he just admitted that he was lying about it, then we'd be in trouble.
Also, we know he's not lying about it because didn't Roger Stone say it at the time?
dan friesen
More or less, in as many words.
And you know what?
The truth is that I don't...
I don't necessarily know what is what, but if I had to guess, I would say 100% Roger told him that.
Whether or not he was...
Like, trying to make himself seem cooler?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Or whatever the reality is, Roger told him, I've spoken to Julian Assange.
jordan holmes
You know, the more I learned about Roger Stone, as evil as he is, he is such chaotic evil that there's kind of a...
He's kind of like Loki, in that he's doing all the wrong stuff, but at the same time, it's just like, you're a scamp.
dan friesen
No, because...
jordan holmes
You're an evil fucking scamp.
dan friesen
Roger Stone can't help but rat fuck people.
jordan holmes
I know!
It's kind of...
Hilarious.
dan friesen
And he's rat-fucking Alex.
unidentified
The way this episode is going to play out, this is a Roger Stone screwjob.
Because he's the one who told Alex that he has the goods.
dan friesen
This is going to be when Assange drops it.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
So good.
dan friesen
It's insane.
This is a dirty trick on Alex accidentally.
So in this next clip, Alex is, you know, it's a late night broadcast.
You've still got to get some plugs in here and there.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
You've still got to make some money at 2 a.m.
jordan holmes
Well, what else are you going to do for an hour before Assange?
alex jones
Your support of InfoWars.com and everything we do is so essential we couldn't do it without you.
And you notice we're a big part of Bill Clinton's son now coming public.
Where is left leg?
Because Hillary suppressed that when Bill was actually giving money to the boy and was actually giving him presents.
Hillary actually came and visited with the mother and said, we'll have you arrested if you don't leave this whole thing alone.
So all of that is coming out here at Infowars.com.
dan friesen
Good for you for reporting that load of horse shit.
jordan holmes
Huge scoop, if true.
dan friesen
Do you know about this story?
Uh-uh.
Wait, wait.
jordan holmes
Is this the Bill Clinton has an illegitimate black child?
dan friesen
Danny Williams.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
So I'm going to read to you here from this Washington Post article about why this is a load of shit.
So on January 9th, 1999, Matt Drudge had another big scoop about Bill Clinton.
The president, it turned out, was not the father of a boy born to a former prostitute in Arkansas.
A year earlier, it had been Drudge who broke the story of Clinton's affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky.
Drudge's credibility was at an all-time high, and he wasn't about to throw it away on some wild claim about a love child that had just been debunked through DNA testing.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
17 years later, as his news aggregation site relentlessly promotes the political ambitions of Donald Trump and fuels conspiracy theories about Hillary Clinton, Drudge has decided to propagate the idea that perhaps this boy, now a 30-year-old man named Danny Williams, is Bill Clinton's son after all.
In the past two weeks, articles about Williams have often featured prominently on the Drudge Report.
Last Wednesday afternoon, the website went quasi-droste effect, posting a picture of Williams standing next to a screen displaying an image of himself that had appeared in another Drudge Report banner earlier in the day.
So you know what's going on here.
jordan holmes
That's so weird.
Imagine what...
unidentified
Hold on.
dan friesen
We need the explanation before we editorialize.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
George has sought to explain his newfound interest in Williams, who claims with certainty that he is Clinton's son, by suggesting that new information has come to light.
...
...
It's based on a report from World Net Daily that, quote, "no blood sample was obtained from Clinton." This supposedly shocking revelation comes from the former editor of Star magazine, Phil Bunton, who said in 1999 that his tabloid had commissioned a DNA test and concluded that Williams is not Clinton's son.
Drudge learned of the negative result and published the news before Star or anyone else.
But if Button now admits that he never got a blood sample from Clinton, there must never have been a real test, Drudge is saying, which means Williams could be legit.
In reality, the tabloid never claimed to have obtained a blood sample from Clinton.
It didn't need one, because a partial analysis of Clinton's blood was available in the public record, thanks to Kenneth Starr's investigation into the Lewinsky affair.
Right.
unidentified
So, it is neither new nor relevant that Starr magazine did not possess a vial of Clinton's blood.
dan friesen
The tabloid needed only a sample of Williams'blood, which Williams provided, to compare Clinton's readily available genetic So, from what I understand, because Clinton Right,
right, right.
After that became clear that, like, oh no, the blood test thing is bullshit, the story changed.
And the claim became that they only had Clinton's PCR test from the Star investigation, not the more specific RFLP test.
jordan holmes
Oh, you gotta have the RFLP test.
dan friesen
Which is what they needed.
However, so...
They're really taking things out of context, and it turns out that you can use a PCR test, which is what you could do with Clinton's public record genetics, to exclude him as a potential father, which is what they did.
jordan holmes
But not prove that he's the potential father, or that he is the father, but you can exclude him from the potential pool of people who could be the father.
dan friesen
So Drudge knew what he was doing, and a lot of the hatchet aspect of this goes back to Roger Stone.
Roger Stone was involved with trying to get all this stuff put out.
Of course!
Again!
jordan holmes
Weird trickster god rambling around this world, sowing discord and hatred wherever he goes.
Like a weird Johnny Apple fuckface.
dan friesen
In terms of propaganda, especially anti-Clinton stuff, Roger Stone is Rome.
All roads lead back to Rome.
He's got his hand in every one of these little pies.
jordan holmes
You know what's interesting?
The more I think about it, the more it's kind of like if you are anybody in Arkansas that was born around a certain time and you were just like, I think I'm Clinton's biological kid.
Right-wing news would almost certainly pick it up and amplify it.
dan friesen
Oh, sure.
jordan holmes
Like, it could be anybody.
dan friesen
And I think that same effect is probably true now of claims against Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he probably is!
dan friesen
But unfortunately, there are a lot of very...
I don't think any of the claims that are being made publicly are spurious.
jordan holmes
No, I think everybody's pretty much dead on.
dan friesen
But I also do believe that if someone came out of the woodwork who was full of shit, people would jump on it.
jordan holmes
Right.
I think people would, but that's the difference between real media and right-wing media.
dan friesen
Exactly, and that's what I was about to clarify.
I don't think the news would jump on it, but some opportunistic left-leaning blogs probably would.
unidentified
Maybe.
dan friesen
So I guess that's the differentiation.
I don't know.
We're talking about hypothetical nonsense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Anyways, I'm Trump's kid.
jordan holmes
That's a true thing.
You heard it here first.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
I am Jordan B. Trump.
dan friesen
Jordan B. Trump.
jordan holmes
That's me.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex makes it clear that, hey, you know what?
This press conference is going to fucking happen.
And after it happens, the media, the mainstream media, they're going to lie about what happens.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Mainstream media, they all just lockstep it together with their propaganda.
They come out and spew their disinformation all loaded on teleprompters.
And so they'll all just unify themselves the next four or five hours and come out with some establishment line.
Either ignoring WikiLeaks or spinning it.
But we're going to be here live.
Now, WikiLeaks, and I get why, they put out some conflicting information.
First, they were going to be speaking from a balcony Wednesday.
Then there were more death threats towards the Paraguayan embassy where Assange has been hiding out for four or five years.
dan friesen
Ecuadorian, by the way.
alex jones
He announced that he was going to be doing a Skype announcement.
and then announced about 24 hours ago that it would be in Germany to a press conference at an arts and news center.
So that's what's going to be happening.
And they put out conflicting numbers of 3 o'clock central or perhaps 2 o'clock central.
The press conference would start.
Now it's clear it starts in approximately 47 minutes.
dan friesen
So he's got 47 minutes left before Julian Assange's press conference starts.
And then there's another bit of time before Julian Assange himself.
Makes his statement.
jordan holmes
This is bad planning on Alex's part.
He's clearly tired.
dan friesen
Yeah, he is.
He's getting nasal.
jordan holmes
He's not able to keep up the voice.
dan friesen
I don't think he's drunk.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
He's definitely not drunk.
dan friesen
I know we throw that around a lot.
I think he's straight up.
jordan holmes
Guaranteed this is just him being like...
I tried to get a nap in between the early show and now, and I didn't get as much sleep as I would like, so I'm a little bit off.
I don't know what time zone I'm in right now.
dan friesen
I think that there's definitely a difference that you can tell, and I think it's important to call it out.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Because if he were drunk, I think this would have a very different feel to it.
And I think he wouldn't make it.
jordan holmes
And I think he would get very drunk as we go along.
dan friesen
And I allow that as a possibility.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I allow it as a possibility that once the worm turns, he has a flask or something like that.
jordan holmes
Currently, I can guarantee this is not drunk Alex Jones.
dan friesen
It's very tired, but also pretty excited, as we see in this next clip.
alex jones
First, I want to go to Owen on this subject, and then what you think is going to be coming out tonight, what you predict.
It better be bombshell, because they've certainly whet our appetite here, and with 34 days left, we need to expose Hillary big time.
I mean, I've got my fingers crossed.
Wild horses couldn't drag me away.
You can cut the knife, and then we're going to get into this Red Hume situation, not because they're attacking yours truly, but because it's illustrative of how rigged this whole thing is.
dan friesen
So just real quick, at this point, Owen Troyer's mic is turned off.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, it's awful quiet right now.
dan friesen
Owen Troyer is talking.
And you can just see his lips moving, but there's no audio.
So I was looking at the video like, hmm.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Are we going to be silent?
alex jones
We're going to turn your mic on a moment again.
We're live here.
This stuff happens.
dan friesen
Sure does.
jordan holmes
This stuff happens.
Hey, we're not going to criticize anybody else's technical difficulties.
dan friesen
I left that in for a specific reason.
Hold on to it for the end of the show.
So Alex is pretty...
jordan holmes
So there's a big...
We're gonna go full circle.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex is pretty pumped up.
And, you know, he's making a big deal out of this.
We got 34 days left till the election.
Because that's when this happens.
It was on October 4th.
jordan holmes
I remember when we were all so bright and young.
dan friesen
Oh, so innocent.
jordan holmes
When our only problem was...
Well, you know...
Most of the same problems we have now, but just like lesser versions.
dan friesen
Also, this is really funny.
This video is still up on Alex Jones' channel, and here's the about in the YouTube link.
Join Alex Jones and the Infowars crew at 2 a.m. Central on Tuesday, October 4th for a live broadcast as WikiLeaks releases its October surprise that could swing the election against Hillary if it catches fire.
So that's how they're selling it.
And the graphic that they have for it is just a picture of Julian Assange, and it says, WikiLeaks October Surprise.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So Alex is all in, because Roger told him to be.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Roger told him, don't worry about it, this is the big time.
jordan holmes
This is the game changer.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
So here's what Owen thinks is going to happen.
Owen finally gets his mic turned on, and here's what he thinks.
alex jones
Go ahead, you're on air.
owen shroyer
It'll be interesting to see what the response is because with a lot of these WikiLeaks, it's nothing that really shocks us.
It's nothing that you couldn't have already seen or predicted.
So the question is, will...
And this is what Assange said in the interviews that he did.
unidentified
Will the Republic respond to this?
Will people actually care?
owen shroyer
Will it dominate the news headlines?
Or will they try to spin something off tomorrow?
Will there be a white cop that shoots a black guy so they want to run that story all day long?
unidentified
Will there be a distraction person?
owen shroyer
That's an important story!
So, in the lead-up to this, Assange was talking a big game.
dan friesen
About how, like, Hillary was going to get...
jordan holmes
That's all he does.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He was talking about how Hillary was going to be indicted and he had a lot of information on her and all that stuff.
But he never said that this press conference was going to be when he released it.
That never...
It was never part of his rhetoric.
This is them conflating things.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They don't understand...
jordan holmes
Well, clearly Assange...
dan friesen
We've already ruined the reveal that this is a disappointment.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So I don't feel terrible dancing around that, but it's fascinating to me how little they understand about the things that they see and read.
jordan holmes
Right, but Assange himself almost...
If I recall correctly...
He wasn't exactly disabusing people of the notion that it might be the time that he releases all that information.
dan friesen
I don't know all the things he says.
jordan holmes
He is a narcissistic, grandstanding piece of shit.
He's still that.
dan friesen
Yes, absolutely.
But as I recall, I'm not 100% sure because I don't follow everything the man says, but I think that a lot of the stuff he was saying when people were floating these sorts of ideas that this is when it's going to happen were along the lines of we don't talk about content that we release.
Yeah.
Or things like, you know, basically the same flavor as none shall know the day of the Lord's return.
jordan holmes
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That sort of thing.
It comes like a thief in the night.
jordan holmes
Which, by the way, next Wednesday.
In case anybody was wondering, I got some information.
Pre-trib rapture is actually true.
dan friesen
I know you're just joking, but what if that happens?
That would be crazy.
jordan holmes
Jesus came back and he was like, God!
Goddammit, Jordan!
You fucking ruined it for everybody!
dan friesen
And you ruined your camera.
jordan holmes
And I ruined my goddamn camera.
dan friesen
You can't hit things.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry!
dan friesen
It would be great if, like, all of God's plans were thwarted by...
jordan holmes
By the prophecy child.
dan friesen
Alex Jones podcast.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, we know Alex Jones is super big into Donald Trump, but he says something in this next clip that should...
I mean, if you really take what he's saying, it sounds like a negative.
alex jones
It's a fact.
That's why they're so mad, saying he'll unravel 60 years of work.
Thank God, building this horrible world government that's designed to make us poor.
That's why it's a no-brainer.
He flips a couple switches, people, that are constitutional.
It'll be like untying a boat from a dock where the engine's going, but you're not pulling out because you're tied up to chains.
He's going to unchain us.
Now, he may run the boat into a wall or into the dock, but he's going to get the boat out of the dock.
jordan holmes
Wait, that's the opposite of what he just said.
dan friesen
That's not the goal.
jordan holmes
What, getting out of the dock?
dan friesen
It's not so important that we get out of the dock that we're like, eh, ship crashed, who cares?
jordan holmes
I mean, we're out of the dock.
dan friesen
If you extend that metaphor, you're into real dangerous territory once you're out.
jordan holmes
No, that's how it works with the Panama Canal, right?
dan friesen
There's a 20% chance he's going to destroy the country.
unidentified
We've got to roll them bones.
dan friesen
I say we don't.
jordan holmes
Let it ride!
dan friesen
I say we don't.
And also, I would argue that the metaphor of the country being a boat that's tied up at a dock is foolish.
It's not tied up at a dock.
unidentified
No, it's actually currently hurtling towards the wall.
dan friesen
But even before Trump, it was moving.
It just wasn't moving as fast as you wanted it to move.
jordan holmes
Alex is right in that the government that we have now, or then, was designed to make us all poor.
He just doesn't understand that the government we have currently is going to make us way poorer.
dan friesen
It's designed to make everything collapse except for the interests of the very, very few.
jordan holmes
Which will, of course, collapse eventually, but they'll have castles, so...
dan friesen
It's like going...
Who cares?
I don't want to extend this metaphor any further.
In this next clip...
jordan holmes
It's like you're on a schooner.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Having a race.
The Harvard...
What are those called?
Like the boat races?
Galas?
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Nope?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Boat races?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright, there we go.
dan friesen
So we've gotten through the raspberry, or cranberry, and I gotta say, cranberry, the Cape Cod cranberry, is a winner.
Also, I'm gonna put this up on the screen.
Look at this here at the bottom.
It just says beer.
It just says beer on the bottom of the can.
jordan holmes
It's delicious, and I could drink 300 of this.
dan friesen
What are you gonna go next?
Grapefruit?
You wanna go grapefruit next?
jordan holmes
Always go green after red.
dan friesen
Okay, we go lime.
Where's this lime from?
Oh, it's from the West Indies.
jordan holmes
West Indies lime.
dan friesen
All right.
Here we go with this next clip.
So Alex Jones is really pumped for whatever is going to come from the Assange revelation.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But what about the rest of the staff?
jordan holmes
That's a good question.
unidentified
Schreuer was oddly skeptical.
dan friesen
Now he's not.
He's in.
jordan holmes
Well, he was just saying, it better be a big deal, and a lot of times WikiLeaks can just be...
dan friesen
He thinks it's going to be big.
He's suggesting that the fucking globalists are going to false flag shoot a black guy with a white cop to cover up the story.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but I mean...
dan friesen
Because that's what he's implying in that last clip.
Anyway, here we find out about more of the staff.
darrin mcbreen
And the thing that worries me, though, is...
dan friesen
This is Darren McBreen.
darrin mcbreen
...is just how...
Obviously, the media is going to respond to this, try to dilute it as much as they can.
But I just worry about a lot of the Hillary supporters that are already out there, because, I mean, she gets away with everything.
Is this going to be worse than Benghazi?
I mean, is this going to be worse than her deleted emails?
Will this be worse than how she badgers women and goes after the women that were abused by her husband?
I mean, how bad can it get?
So I'm really excited to see what they're about to announce.
alex jones
Well, let me make some predictions.
I think it's going to be more emails confirming that, because we already have one with one of her top people saying, hey, we need illegal means, and then the reported new email that we haven't confirmed yet saying use a drone.
I mean, I think it's going to be confirmed that she's been plotting to kill Assange.
I think also, because we already know some of the intel, it's going to be directly proving in Benghazi that she ordered in emails the shipments of weapons.
Out of Syria.
jordan holmes
And also the code red.
alex jones
Or out of Libya into Syria.
And I think it's going to be Hillary directing the media word for word what to say.
I'm going to go back to McBreen in a moment.
I don't want him to leave.
unidentified
Stay McBreen.
alex jones
It's going to be the media being directed on what to say and what to do.
Right down to talking points.
It's going to be David Brock type stuff directing Lester Holt type stuff.
Directing Megyn Kelly.
It's going to be the actual directions.
Also, it's going to be other armed shipments into other areas of the Middle East.
Sure.
dan friesen
Why not?
alex jones
The EU officials with NATO and the UN being directed by the State Department to prepare the collapse of the border of Europe.
jordan holmes
Really putting a lot into this one press conference.
alex jones
From Macedonia to Turkey and to bring in the Arab Spring.
jordan holmes
How long is this press conference supposed to be?
dan friesen
Keep in mind.
Alex said, this is my prediction.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, all of this stuff is going to happen.
dan friesen
I think it's going to be everything that verifies all of my narratives.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Every lie I've told is going to turn out to be true.
dan friesen
I mean, it's tough to get away from how invested that sounds.
That's a very unhealthy level of, here's what I think it's going to be.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but what I think he's really doing is putting...
All of his narratives in there.
unidentified
Just in case.
jordan holmes
That way, if he proves any of them, he gets to be like, well, we didn't see this stuff proved, but I still got one right.
dan friesen
And the rest of it's coming.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're probably right.
jordan holmes
He needs to get one right.
unidentified
It's buckshot.
It's buckshot.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
No sniper activity.
Just a shotgun full of rock salt coming after the globalists.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, we get some more predictions.
alex jones
I believe this is going to be half of what he's got, and that he'll announce even more is coming out before the election.
Just watching how Assange does things.
McBreen, what do you think?
darrin mcbreen
Well, he's pretty much stated that as well.
He said he's got a treasure trove of information that he's going to release bits at a time.
But that's a lot in the next 30 days.
So we're going to probably see once a week something like this.
But I think the big ones tonight.
alex jones
Let me ask you this, both of you.
I mean, are you edge of your seat or what?
I was so hyped today and had so much energy.
I could hardly finish my words.
I was stumbling over my next word.
jordan holmes
Can't even finish his words!
alex jones
Sometimes I get excited and talk fast, but this is just an incredible time.
And I don't want to say it's a guilt.
It's a responsibility.
Where I jumped out of bed at 1 a.m. after sleeping three hours.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you sound like it.
alex jones
I just feel so good.
Not even proud of myself, but just myself.
dan friesen
What?
alex jones
I guess my soul is like, yes, work more.
Work 20 hours a day.
Do everything.
I've never felt so good working this hard.
I mean, this is history.
dan friesen
This is history.
He is so pumped.
They are so...
They are, like...
jordan holmes
This is the vindication moment.
Because they've never been right about anything before.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
So if they get one thing right, they're gonna lose their shit!
dan friesen
Exactly.
And Roger has clearly told them...
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
This is gonna be the big deal.
dan friesen
Your boat is coming in.
jordan holmes
Oh.
And it's gonna break that fucking wall.
dan friesen
You know what it is?
It's like a kid on Christmas who thinks that they're getting a PlayStation and it's really...
jordan holmes
Yeah, they see the big box and they're like, oh, this is the big box.
This is going to be the one.
dan friesen
And they're so sure of it.
And then they get disappointed on Christmas morning.
But the reason they get disappointed...
jordan holmes
Because their parents put a tiny pair of socks in there just to fuck with their kids.
dan friesen
And the reason that they're disappointed is because their older brother, Roger Stone in this metaphor, has told them...
It's finally time that you're getting a PlayStation.
jordan holmes
Even though he's probably already seen Inside the Box.
He was there wrapping it with his parents.
He was going to be like, this is going to be hilarious.
We're going to fuck with him so bad.
This is going to be so great.
dan friesen
Exactly.
So in this next clip, Alex explains that he's the real media.
You know why?
Because he's stayed up late.
alex jones
We're the true independent media.
We're up in the middle of the night while Fox tapes at shows and CNN tapes at shows at like 10 at night that air overnight.
We're here giving you real live coverage.
And again, I wouldn't care if they were telling the truth at CNN or Fox.
dan friesen
Cool, cool, cool, cool.
You're the real media, bro.
In this next clip, just to move along, I have a ton of clips.
jordan holmes
Also, West Indies Lime?
It's a winner.
dan friesen
Oh, Jesus Christ.
jordan holmes
It's great.
So good.
dan friesen
I was going to bring that up myself.
jordan holmes
So good.
dan friesen
It's just smooth.
We gotta get Spiked Seltzers as a sponsor.
jordan holmes
Guys, Spiked Seltzers is the way to go.
dan friesen
If you guys want to reach out to Spiked Seltzers and tell them to sponsor our podcast, we would appreciate it.
Yes.
I don't even know if that's the name of the company.
jordan holmes
This is essentially us finding out at 30 that Zima is great.
dan friesen
You know what?
I never disagreed with that.
Even when I was a younger man, I didn't have one of those sort of antagonists.
I didn't like a Smirnoff ice, necessarily, because there's too much sweetness to it.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But anyway, let's not get that.
jordan holmes
No, this is like if the shitty water you bought earlier was actually delicious.
dan friesen
Let's not go down the road of my history with wine coolers, because it's going to be a long podcast if we do it.
Instead, I would like to submit to you this next clip that just confirms that Alex Jones is fully saying that this is their October surprise.
alex jones
You're watching live coverage at 2.52 a.m. Central Standard Time, 3.52 Eastern, of the WikiLeaks Clinton October Surprise that kicks off in about seven minutes.
dan friesen
It's the October Surprise, baby.
jordan holmes
It's going to happen.
dan friesen
So it kicks off in seven minutes.
jordan holmes
Wait, isn't this almost very similar to the time period where Donald...
Where Trump Jr. was on Twitter with those people illegally.
dan friesen
Boy, I wish I'd figured out the timeline before we did this episode.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
Because didn't he say, like, especially this would be great, especially in the fall?
Or was it in the summer?
dan friesen
Are you talking about that meeting with Veselnitskaya?
jordan holmes
No, the one where he got the direct message about somebody who was going to give him secret information or whatever.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's Veselnitskaya.
jordan holmes
Was that them?
dan friesen
Yeah, the email from Aras.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Let me look that up.
Vamp.
unidentified
If I'm going to look something up, you can't text.
jordan holmes
I'm not texting.
I'm looking up my dates.
I might as well fucking plug them right now.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
Never mind.
You got a plug?
No.
dan friesen
Aren't you doing a show with Matt Drafke?
jordan holmes
I am doing a show.
It's actually in my hometown of Princeton, Illinois.
It's going to be brutal.
My family's going to be there.
I'm just going to lay out grievances.
That's all it's going to be.
I'm going to lock the doors and I'm just going to be like, listen up.
Here's all the shit that my parents did wrong, and I'm saying this publicly.
We need to have an intervention.
Religion isn't real.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
It was months before.
The meeting was in June.
The Trump Tower meeting was in June.
jordan holmes
Ah, I gotcha.
dan friesen
So the emails were before that.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
I'm not entirely sure exactly what was going on, like, clandestinely at this point in October.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That's what we got there.
Alex says, we got seven minutes till it starts.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And when it starts, there are a bunch of people, there's like some journalists who are giving a bit of a lecture about the history of WikiLeaks.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because it's the 10th anniversary of WikiLeaks.
That's all this is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so they're giving a, they're just, you know, giving...
jordan holmes
Chelsea Manning is a hero.
This is very important.
Pretty much everything since then has been bullshit.
dan friesen
You know what?
I don't have a clip of this, but this is actually the only time that Alex Jones didn't misgender her.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
He actually called her Chelsea on this episode and always calls her a man or Bradley Manning.
unidentified
Wow!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, it's weird.
jordan holmes
That is weird.
dan friesen
Actually, he has adopted the naming convention.
He does say Chelsea, generally speaking, now, but also misgenders her.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But in this case...
Totally cool with it.
It brings up how Assange had been like, I will go to prison if you release her.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And Alex even uses the her pronoun.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
It's very weird, but I think it's a secondary.
jordan holmes
This is great.
dan friesen
I think he's distracted.
Yeah, of course.
jordan holmes
He's distracted enough so that he finally isn't a transphobic monster for a short period of time.
dan friesen
Well, that takes attention to detail.
jordan holmes
It does.
It's hard to be a transphobic monster.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
We don't think about that enough.
How difficult it is to be prejudiced against everybody who is different from you.
dan friesen
Well, in the same way that Alex is complaining about how, like, why do I have to keep up with these new terms?
Everybody introduces new terms.
jordan holmes
And it turns out it's not hard to do.
dan friesen
It's not that hard, but I can understand how it would be tough for a bigot to be like, where...
Why do I have to keep finding new targets for my hate?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Why do I have to keep finding new rationalizations for hating people who are different?
jordan holmes
Of course.
unidentified
Why are there so many ways people can be different?
dan friesen
That's got to be exhausting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does.
dan friesen
So the press conference starts with these people giving a history of WikiLeaks.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Alex, I don't think knew that was going to happen, and so he just lets it...
jordan holmes
He thought it was going to be full on...
Julian comes out and is like, bombshell!
Bombshell!
Fuck yeah!
dan friesen
Dick out!
jordan holmes
This shit!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Just swinging.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Instead, it's this, you know, ten years ago we started this website and blah blah.
And he doesn't really know how to deal with it, so he just plays it straight.
And I, of course, haven't kept any of that in.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But here's an interesting editorial that Alex drops in before things turn for him.
alex jones
I've got to say, Assange and his crew are definitely patriots.
They're real liberals.
You're seeing real liberals in action here.
By liberals, Thomas Jefferson was a liberal.
It means more freedom, telling the truth, being honorable.
These are real liberals.
And that's why you hear Obama and Hillary saying they're totally evil and the worst people in the world must be shut down.
That's why you heard Assange saying Hillary wants to put the pre-press his neck in an ish.
dan friesen
So, um...
That's cool.
Alex is super into it.
He is still pumped.
They're patriots.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
He's not an American.
jordan holmes
No, but he's a real patriot.
dan friesen
What does that even mean?
jordan holmes
He's a patriot.
He's like Thomas Jefferson.
Thomas Jefferson wasn't a real American.
dan friesen
He moved!
Well, true.
But you create a new identity, and he gets to adopt it.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
If Julian Assange were a founder of our country, he could claim that he's an American, but he's actually European.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This is a guy from...
Where's he from?
jordan holmes
Assange?
dan friesen
Where's he from?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
He committed all of his crimes in Sweden, right?
dan friesen
That's where I got it wrong.
jordan holmes
That's the one.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Where's he from?
jordan holmes
I think he's British.
dan friesen
Maybe?
Australian?
jordan holmes
Could be Australian?
Who knows?
Where is he from?
Paraguay.
I think we've landed on Paraguay as the reality.
dan friesen
Ooh, big gap in our knowledge.
Country of origin for us all.
jordan holmes
Who gives a shit?
He's a monster.
dan friesen
I got Australia from the chat room.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
So he's an Australian dude who's committed a crime in Sweden, who's now in the UK in an Ecuadorian embassy.
jordan holmes
Of course he's an Australian.
They come from a line of criminals.
I don't know why.
There's no reason to do that.
dan friesen
My point is that...
jordan holmes
So does everybody from Georgia.
dan friesen
My point...
jordan holmes
And here.
dan friesen
Don't say that, man, there's a bunch of Australian listeners.
jordan holmes
I know!
I'm sorry!
I wasn't trying to do that.
dan friesen
My point is that you have a circuitous...
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Circuitous.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
Root for him to find himself in the Ecuadorian embassy in the UK.
And Alex is like, he's a patriot.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Great.
Yeah.
So anyway, in this next clip, we get...
jordan holmes
Especially considering that...
Never mind.
Never mind.
dan friesen
In this next clip, we get Darren McBreen jumping back in, I believe, and we're talking about how fucking hardcore this data dump is going to be.
And then an accusation is made about the internet.
alex jones
Let's go to Darren McBreen.
Here we are at 3.30 in the morning covering this.
This is history.
Again, how hardcore is the data dump he's going to give on Hillary?
darrin mcbreen
Well, I hope it's super hardcore, but you guys were talking earlier about how a lot of times you go to these news websites and you get more information in the comments section.
And then Alex, you said that a lot of times what they'll do is they'll turn off the comments section so nobody can read it.
alex jones
Yeah, that's the new architecture.
darrin mcbreen
But they're even going a step further.
Hillary Clinton, she now has a troll army.
So what she will do is they've got all these people that they're spending millions of dollars for these trolls to go to these news websites, to go to Infowars.com.
To go to Facebook and to argue with people with, and of course they're pro-Hillary, and they basically attack anybody who has anything to do, anything against her.
jordan holmes
Maybe because you guys are assholes.
darrin mcbreen
So these are paid trolls, an army of paid trolls.
alex jones
Owen Troyer, what's your view on this?
owen shroyer
Well, Darren is completely correct.
They have to pay these people to go online.
alex jones
Soros!
unidentified
Soros!
jordan holmes
I don't think, look, I don't care what side you are on.
For the most part, you do not have to pay people to be assholes online.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Generally speaking, everybody does it for free.
dan friesen
And you know what?
Honestly, I think if you're on one side of the political divide and you're getting abused a bunch by people in comment sections, I think it's actually a much more comforting idea that they're paid.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, no, no, of course!
dan friesen
Because if not, that means...
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah!
That means you might be a dick!
dan friesen
They're monsters.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
Exactly.
dan friesen
It's actually kind of, like, when you look at the idea of, like, take a picture of humanity, it's like, I would much rather these dicks posting all this violent, angry shit were getting paid to do it.
jordan holmes
Right, otherwise everybody might be an asshole.
dan friesen
Because then if the money shuts off, that'll stop.
jordan holmes
Right.
That's a good point.
I didn't consider that.
dan friesen
And if the money doesn't, like, if they're just doing it because I feel this in my heart, then, like, oh, boy.
jordan holmes
I'm in for the rest of my life.
dan friesen
Yeah, then there's really nothing you can do outside of, I mean, hopefully education.
jordan holmes
Nah, that's never going to happen.
dan friesen
No, people don't like that.
jordan holmes
Uh-uh.
It's mean.
dan friesen
So what they're specifically talking about is David Brock's Correct the Record initiative, where they had a bunch of people who were going around to find places where misinformation was being spread about Hillary Clinton and post the explanation of it.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
And I get how the idea of, like, they're getting paid to flood comment sections and stuff like that.
Yeah.
unidentified
I get how the reality...
dan friesen
Yeah, there are people who were paid to do that.
jordan holmes
They were Russian.
dan friesen
But the version that they're explaining is conflating probably dumb people with the people who were paid.
You'll never really be able to prove X, Y, or Z person on the internet was paid, but if you just say they're all paid, then you can take the behavior of someone who's awful and assume that's the same as a person who's like, well, actually, here's an article about what really happened there.
I don't know.
It's a dumb game.
It's dumb.
jordan holmes
Facts are never going to win because they are always reactive.
The only possibility is education and education isn't really going to win because in order to be educated you have to admit that you don't know things.
If you admit that you don't know things that makes you feel stupid and the people that we are fighting against are essentially people who Refuse to admit that they don't know something.
dan friesen
It's a threat.
It's a threat to your self-identity.
jordan holmes
Especially if you're a manly...
If you're so invested in this male identity of always being the strongest, that then has to apply to the intellectual sphere as well.
dan friesen
I would be willing to bet Alex...
I know it's a hacky, hacky thing, but I bet he won't ask for directions.
I bet he is that...
jordan holmes
Right, and why don't they make the plane out of whatever the black box is made out of?
dan friesen
That doesn't have to do with masculinity.
But you know what does?
This next clip.
This next clip.
jordan holmes
Amazing transitions.
dan friesen
Owen Troyer decides, I'm going to be fucking manly as hell.
And he does a...
jordan holmes
Owen Troyer shouldn't do that.
He is not manly.
dan friesen
He does a pro-wrestling style shoot on David Brock.
jordan holmes
Alright, I like it.
unidentified
You know what's amazing?
owen shroyer
That's something I don't think it's said.
alex jones
And by the way, let's put the WikiLeaks press conference kind of lower corner if we can so folks know what's going on.
We're covering that, but go ahead.
owen shroyer
So, Fox News calls you out.
unidentified
MSNBC calls you out.
CNN, whoever calls you out, and you respond.
Hillary Clinton calls you out, says you have a dark heart.
dan friesen
You respond with an hour.
alex jones
And they never cover it.
dan friesen
Okay.
owen shroyer
I called you a money laundering thief, David Brock.
alex jones
Yeah, I noticed he won't respond.
jordan holmes
Where are you?
alex jones
Because he doesn't want to go there.
owen shroyer
If somebody said something that damning about myself, about my personal record, I think that I would want to respond.
jordan holmes
How about you're a lying, inaccurate piece of shit?
dan friesen
Right, and we actually...
I can't wait to...
jordan holmes
I'm calling you out, Owen Schroyer!
If you want somebody to fucking come at you like it's no big deal, let me tell you something.
You work for a lying piece of shit, and that makes you a lying piece of shit.
You think you're a bigot?
You don't even know!
dan friesen
You're also bad at your job.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's really bad at his job.
dan friesen
But I would posit this as a potential explanation.
Alex has something to gain from engaging, and that is increased exposure, and then he sells more of his dumb products.
David Brock doesn't have anything to gain by engaging.
jordan holmes
In fact, the only person who has anything to gain by David Brock engaging is Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Exactly.
unidentified
That's it.
dan friesen
So this whole thing of, like, why won't you come at us?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Is so desperate when you really look at it through, like, the lens of...
The real world.
Right.
It's like, of course I don't want to dignify you with a fucking...
You're just trying to...
It's schoolyard shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's absolutely bullying.
jordan holmes
It's bullying.
Currently, it does seem like we're in something of the opposite position insofar as we only have something to gain if Alex comes after us.
unidentified
Totally.
jordan holmes
He will then...
unidentified
Never.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So, Alex, what I'm saying is you're a giant pussy!
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And your whole worldview is based on anti-Semitism.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The issue, too, what it comes down to often is that, like, I don't know if David Brock is involved in money laundering.
I have no idea.
But Owen Schroer making that claim, in order for it to be liable, like, proving it in court is difficult.
In the same way that, like, there's a, you know...
The way that our laws are written in terms of slander and libel, it's very difficult to prove the legal standard of those things to protect free speech.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
You would rather err on the side of...
dan friesen
Right.
They kind of know that.
jordan holmes
Well, they have to because that's their whole game.
dan friesen
Basically.
jordan holmes
Literally, all they do is skirt as close to a libel law as they possibly can.
dan friesen
And then fucking settle.
jordan holmes
And try and...
unidentified
Fall back.
dan friesen
And settle like crazy.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So this promo's not over.
alex jones
No, he won't respond to any of the reports you were covering.
jordan holmes
So, David Brock, I'm accusing you of money laundering.
owen shroyer
I think that you are an absolute thief.
You are the Jordan Belfort of the Democratic.
jordan holmes
Campaign donation funding.
owen shroyer
You and Mary Bonner need to be audited and looked into by the IRS and probably put in jail.
dan friesen
Okay?
jordan holmes
Let's hear you respond to that.
unidentified
I bet your dark heart has nothing.
alex jones
Look how he's a total moron.
He looks like a lobotomized dog.
jordan holmes
Gotta go for the looks.
alex jones
He looks like a dog in the headlines.
I mean, look at that joke.
jordan holmes
We don't have any proof that he's a money launderer, so he looks like a money launderer.
Done.
dan friesen
On some level, I admire that Owen Troyer was at least saying a thing.
jordan holmes
He was trying.
dan friesen
I don't know if that thing is real or true, but at least it wasn't.
Look at that dumbass hair.
And Alex can't hang.
I mean, I don't know if it's just because it's that late and he's tired.
But he would do that at noon.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, no, it's not that.
It's that Alex is afraid of making that kind of a concrete claim.
Alex would far would much rather just go for the emasculate as opposed to anything else, because he knows his viewers aren't really going to care.
Like David Brock, you can say David Brock is a money launderer and they'll be.
dan friesen
Oh, do you mean our president?
No.
Fortifiedsupply.com.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
That's right!
dan friesen
Tax deadlines, April 15th.
jordan holmes
April 15th.
dan friesen
Are fast approaching.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Alex, I don't know for sure.
I don't know all the intricacies of the law, but I think he might be doing some money laundering.
I don't think that's liable.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Anyway, in this next clip, like I said...
jordan holmes
This is going to get their...
This is going to get their dicks hard.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Not just, like, making fun of his hair.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That's not enough.
jordan holmes
Uh-uh.
alex jones
Has that stupid gray hair?
Like a Mars attack space alien head?
jordan holmes
Yeah, color your hair!
dan friesen
He doesn't care about anything else except money.
unidentified
All right?
alex jones
That's all this guy cares about.
And he loves Vienna sausage.
unidentified
Well, actually, well, okay.
I mean, his ex-boyfriend actually blackmailed him.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
alex jones
He's a connoisseur of Vienna sausage.
I mean, he actually likes little canned meats.
unidentified
Are you talking about mini-weenies?
alex jones
Yes, mini-weenies.
unidentified
He likes the mini-weenies?
alex jones
David Brock likes mini-weenies.
unidentified
When David Brock has one of his Super Packs...
alex jones
When he has thought bubbles, it's about being a sausage.
owen shroyer
When he has his Super Packs hosting these parties, actually he serves miniature wieners at his party.
But hey, he got blackmailed by his ex-boyfriend.
unidentified
He had to pay his ex-boyfriend $850,000.
alex jones
I didn't mean that.
I bet he's a promissor of breakfast sausages.
unidentified
Sorry, guys.
jordan holmes
Does Alex think he's funny?
Alex has to think he's really funny.
dan friesen
He thinks he's hilarious.
jordan holmes
He has to think he's fucking crushing this joke.
dan friesen
We have sycophantic assholes around.
Yeah, that's true.
They're just like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, that's great.
I bet he does like breakfast foods.
I'm trying to insinuate that he's super gay, though.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I'm trying to insinuate that Vienna sausage, that the...
That you said was actually a euphemism.
dan friesen
What's fun about that bit as a two-man act is that, like, Owen is doing exactly what he should do.
jordan holmes
Right, he's playing the straight man.
dan friesen
Well, because Alex is bringing up the mini-weenies and what have you to make fun of the idea that David Brock is gay.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And Owen is like, well, actually, now bringing up, like, substance.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Whether it's true or not is another matter.
But he's like, oh, yeah, not only that.
But he had to pay his boyfriend all this money.
No, no.
unidentified
I'm literally talking about cocktail weeks.
It's like, Alex, you are the worst.
dan friesen
You have already done the bit.
Now you're trying to do it again.
And Owen doesn't have the improv chops to roll with it.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
He can't, like...
You can see it in his face, too.
He's just exasperated.
He's like, all right.
Yes, I mean...
jordan holmes
It's not...
It's not a good joke, but I can't say it on air!
dan friesen
Well, the thing, too, is that, like, I don't know exactly what the money they're talking about is.
I don't really care.
This is just part of their Pizzagate coverage, because David Brock's ex-boyfriend was James Elefantis, who owned Comet Ping Pong Pizza, which was the center...
jordan holmes
I did not know that!
dan friesen
Yeah, which was the center of the...
You didn't know that?
That's the whole reason this whole thing happened.
jordan holmes
I don't care.
dan friesen
That's the whole reason Pizzagate happened.
jordan holmes
I didn't care about Pizzagate.
Why would I pay attention to it in any way, shape, or form?
It was obviously false.
And then it had the moniker of blank gate on it, which means I don't give a shit already.
There was one gate.
It was Watergate.
After that, figure out a different fucking name.
Why is everything...
Now I'm doing an old bit.
unidentified
Now I'm doing...
dan friesen
You're the hacker.
jordan holmes
Listen, why is it that they don't make...
Planes out of pizza!
dan friesen
The whole reason the Pizzagate got momentum and got focused on Comet Ping Pong Pizza to begin with was because in the Podesta emails that got leaked, there were emails between John Podesta and James Elefantis.
Because James Elefantis would host Podesta, Hillary Clinton-related fundraisers at Comet Ping Pong Pizza.
Because it was one of the hottest and best pizza places in Washington, D.C. All right.
And so all the attention got sent that way.
jordan holmes
Is that why their relationship ended?
dan friesen
What?
No, I don't know all the details about that.
I feel like it's not even appropriate.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, because I don't want to add Pizzagate to another reason.
That I hate them because it ruined a perfectly good relationship.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
I think they had already broken up by that point.
Okay.
Again, I don't know people's private lives.
It's not really all that important to me.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
But I do think that...
jordan holmes
But I should know about Netflix.
dan friesen
I do think that one of the reasons that Pizzagate got pushed the way it did is because James Aliphantus...
jordan holmes
Had a connection to David Brock.
Now I got it.
dan friesen
Who right-wing interests have a very serious boner to kill.
unidentified
Always hated, yeah.
dan friesen
They want to crush him because...
I mean, he hosts the most widely trafficked site that debunks their bullshit.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So, all that is to say, I don't know what money David Brock gave James Oliphantus.
I don't particularly care.
I imagine it wasn't blackmail, but that's why Owen's bringing that up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Pizzagate.
jordan holmes
I gotcha.
dan friesen
So again, they can claim that they never covered Pizzagate, but they talked about a lot of it.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Now, in this next clip.
We get the first sensible thing that's said by any staff member of Infowars on this broadcast.
unidentified
Rob Dew says, guys, what are we doing?
dan friesen
Rob Dew is sitting on the sidelines, and he has, it's not reasonable, but he has the most measured response, I think, of anybody.
rob dew
Just watching, you know, watching WikiLeaks put this thing together, I'm surprised they haven't just come out with the...
Led with the big guns, you know?
I don't know what this party is going on.
alex jones
Well, they've already released some incredibly powerful stuff.
rob dew
They have, but you would think that the stuff that they're talking about and the build-up that has been to this 10-year anniversary.
alex jones
Well, they're just giving a history.
rob dew
I hope they're not trolling anybody is what I'm saying.
I hope they're not trolling the world right now.
jordan holmes
Fuck you, Rob, do!
Seeing your hopes dashed is beautiful to me.
dan friesen
But here's the problem.
Rob Dew's right, but he's got the wrong culprit.
It's Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
It's not WikiLeaks.
It's not Julian Assange that's doing this.
It's Roger.
It's so crazy.
But at least he's starting to...
unidentified
I smell something weird.
dan friesen
I smell something weird.
jordan holmes
Do you know what's so great about this, too, is that Roger Stone smoothed this over immediately.
Alex almost certainly had this, Hey, Roger!
What did you do?
You fucking ruined this for me!
And Roger was like, Nah, nah, nah, don't worry about it.
I got this one covered.
We're going to take care of it in a certain way.
dan friesen
It's a terrible Roger story.
jordan holmes
I know.
I don't know how to do it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I know.
It's a distinctive voice.
jordan holmes
It's like, certainly, it's nasal, but I can't pull it together.
dan friesen
I nailed it once during our March 30th episode when I did an impression of him saying that Adam Schiff is a pussy.
But I have never been able to recap that.
jordan holmes
So for the podcast episode...
Adam Schiff is a pussy!
dan friesen
That's pretty close.
It's not good.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
So, as this wears on, there's more and more the history of WikiLeaks.
There's more people just talking a big game about all they've accomplished.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And at a certain point, Alex starts to grow restless.
alex jones
I mean, whatever.
unidentified
Get the leaks out.
rob dew
I guess now they're taking questions from the audience.
Maybe we should...
alex jones
Yeah, like, where's the signs?
Let's get to the meat and potatoes.
Infowars.com.
rob dew
The Americans are impatient.
unidentified
Yeah, so, um...
It's not 10 a.m. here, sweetheart.
jordan holmes
Don't call her sweetheart.
Don't call her sweetheart.
dan friesen
It's as benign as he can get in these here parts.
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess it's better than Cupcake, but still don't call her sweetheart.
dan friesen
He comes from a different era.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, he doesn't.
unidentified
No, he doesn't.
dan friesen
Maybe ten years older than me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
That's really fucked up to me.
He is not more than ten years older than me.
rob dew
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's crazy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know, right?
dan friesen
He looks like shit.
Anyway.
In this next clip.
jordan holmes
So perfunctory the way he said that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't want to gild the lily with the specific talk.
I can just bluntly throw that out.
In this next clip, Alex is just like, get on with it.
He's getting like...
Because at this point, he still thinks the dunk is coming, and he's growing exceedingly impatient.
alex jones
I love how WikiLeaks, and this is just a criticism, I love WikiLeaks, I love Assange, but he has to deal with mainstream media reporters who literally think because they can write an article, they're God.
There's a lot of arrogance here, on average, that we're seeing today.
jordan holmes
That's true.
alex jones
And with Snowden, they screwed him over.
And so that's why everybody should just be their own journalist, their own report, so it's more pure.
Because that's what this comes down to.
You're seeing Infowars.com, live coverage of the WikiLeaks, hour and a half press conference.
We're 42 minutes into it.
In the next 10, 15 minutes, Assange is going to show up.
It's what we're all waiting for right now.
We've kind of gotten the history of WikiLeaks.
It's very interesting.
The problem is that the people doing the presentation are so cool.
They can't kind of bring themselves to give us any information.
dan friesen
Also, along the way, he's been, like, really pissed off at people's haircuts.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, just all of these people who are doing the WikiLeaks press conference are like, fucking hip asshole's haircut.
He thinks he's so cool.
jordan holmes
As a man whose hairline is receding, I can respect that at 3 a.m. he's like, fucking hate haircuts.
I hate it.
Your hair is so good.
dan friesen
This trendy motherfucker.
jordan holmes
Totally get it.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
I'm going to let him off the hook for that one because I've been there.
Fuck you.
Fuck you and your flowing locks.
dan friesen
I do not understand it at all.
alex jones
And I'm not trying to be mean.
It's just that this is why I get called.
jordan holmes
It's not whatever it is you're about to say.
alex jones
Sometimes like 30, 40 big profiles.
New York Times, Washington Post.
You name it in the last few months.
I just said I'm not doing it because I don't have time to sit there.
On a weird power trip with some journalist for a day, so they write some twisted article.
Just write whatever you're going to write.
So my deal is, InfoWars, Drudge Report, we're the future, we're huge, WikiLeaks is great, but it's good to see how unpretentious Drudge is, or how unpretentious InfoWars is.
dan friesen
You just said you're the future.
How unpretentious InfoWars is?
jordan holmes
That's not pretentious.
dan friesen
Eh, a little bit.
alex jones
Because these folks are great.
jordan holmes
That's portentious.
alex jones
It's just, my God, who puts together these productions?
Get right to it, I would...
You know, give a five-minute history of what we've done, five-minute history of what we've been through, and then get to the data dump.
Get to the meat and potatoes now, now, now.
rob dew
Andrew Breitbart came out and said he's got this amazing video.
I think it was at some straw pack or something.
alex jones
And he died a day later.
rob dew
Yeah, and then he died.
And then the stuff they released, it didn't quite live up to what you thought it would be.
alex jones
That's right.
Okay, she's now gone to a new video.
dan friesen
So he goes back to the WikiLeaks pre-conference because he realizes, I don't want to talk about fucking Breitbart.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because we did an episode about Andrew Breitbart.
We know all of that is nonsense.
It was at CPAC that he gave a speech where he said that he was going to vet Obama.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And it was not the next day that he died.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
dan friesen
It was...
A bit later.
And he had nothing.
And he died of a heart attack because he was a very unhealthy man who was probably deeply into cocaine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Unfortunately, he didn't die sooner.
I say the same thing about Scalia.
dan friesen
I've talked.
jordan holmes
And I'm going to say the same thing about Gorsuch and who else?
Who else you got?
dan friesen
I was watching.
I don't know.
Look, I saw Andrew.
jordan holmes
Anthony Kennedy.
I'm just going to go through a list of the Supreme Court justices I wish were dead.
dan friesen
I saw a video of Andrew Breitbart the other day and I got sentimental.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
That's how bad it is.
jordan holmes
That was a different time, right?
That's when lies were just lies instead of the truth.
dan friesen
You know what?
I know that I'm wrong about this.
I know I am.
Ahead of me saying it, I know I'm wrong.
jordan holmes
Now I'm excited to hear what it is you have to say.
dan friesen
I think I could hang with Andrew Breitbart and not...
Like, beat his ass, or something like that.
I wouldn't be so angry.
Like, if I hung out with Alex, I would leave.
Right, right, right, right.
When I say beat his ass, of course we'd never get to a fight.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, you would never get to a fight.
dan friesen
That's not me.
jordan holmes
Unless you and he were sharing the same cocaine.
dan friesen
That's Alex rubbing off on me.
I would hang out with Alex, and I'd try and talk to him for a little bit, like, I gotta go.
I think I could hang out, have a couple drinks with Andrew Breitbart, and think he's an asshole, but also slap him on the shoulder, and be like, you piece of shit.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Like, we could be convival enemies.
Like, that kind of thing.
I watched a video of him, like...
jordan holmes
Convivial, by the way.
unidentified
Whatever.
dan friesen
I watched a video of him, like, fucking with some protesters, and they're like, this is quaint.
That's not good.
jordan holmes
Whenever we're reminiscing fondly about whenever things were less evil, I guess?
dan friesen
Exactly.
He's on some, like, roller skates or something.
jordan holmes
He's on roller skates?
He's on roller skates and he's videotaping people.
dan friesen
He's like, I'm on roller skates.
Are you guys going to push me over?
That's fucking hilarious.
jordan holmes
That is pretty funny.
I'm going to give him that one.
I will give the ghost of Andrew Breitbart one point.
dan friesen
I've also been considering the possibility that since I did that deep dive and researched his death, and I know how people like Alex Jones have misused it for their own purposes, I might just feel a misplaced empathy for him.
And that's entirely possible, too.
But whatever the case...
Don't fucking play your games.
jordan holmes
Did right-wing media kill Andrew Breitbart for their own purposes?
This is the question we should be asking.
dan friesen
No, he had a heart attack.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He was a partier.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
He was a partier with a congenital heart defect.
Anyway, in this next clip, Alex Jones confirms, once again, this is history.
alex jones
This is only the beginning, though, of exposing all this.
This is history happening.
Julian Assange is coming.
It's 10 minutes.
jordan holmes
Oh, this is a man waiting for Santa Claus.
alex jones
Infowars.com, live coverage.
Infowars.com forward slash show.
And what really happens is, once it gives us the dirt, we start investigating it.
We put the reports out first.
We counter the globalist control narrative.
Let's go back to Sarah Harrison and the WikiLeaks release.
jordan holmes
Norad is tracking Santa Claus.
He is coming right over Africa.
He will be in the United States very soon.
dan friesen
Yep, that's where he's at.
That's the headspace.
jordan holmes
Also, once again, Snowden had nothing to do with WikiLeaks.
It was Glenn Greenwald and The Guardian.
dan friesen
No, but I also think that, just to give Alex a little bit of credit, within the context of what he was saying...
It's not one-to-one necessarily that he was saying that he was involved with WikiLeaks.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's possible that what he was saying is that the mainstream media screwed Snowden over.
Maybe he's pointing the finger at Greenwald.
I'm not entirely sure.
jordan holmes
Well, he said WikiLeaks screwed Snowden.
dan friesen
No, I don't think he did.
jordan holmes
He did?
dan friesen
No, I don't think he did.
I think that if you look at the...
jordan holmes
He said they screwed Snowden.
Okay, fair enough.
dan friesen
I think if you look at it...
jordan holmes
Proper pronoun usage is beyond Alex's...
dan friesen
Because more of the complaints that he made in that clip that you're referencing were about the Washington Post.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And the mainstream media.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
But I don't know.
He might still think that Snowden was involved.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But we can't say for sure.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
But at this point, the time has run out.
The clock has run out.
It's time for Snowden.
Now you've got Snowden in my head.
jordan holmes
I got it.
dan friesen
It's time for Assange to make his appearance in this clip.
They're waiting for the people doing the press conference to get him on the phone, and Alex Jones starts to have violent fantasies.
unidentified
Come on now.
jordan holmes
Come on.
alex jones
Come on now.
jordan holmes
Come on.
alex jones
This one goes there.
Aim the crosshairs this way.
Pull the trigger that way.
There, sink the enemy.
That's how it's done.
Pull the knife across the throat like that, across the garage.
Press in lovingly.
Watch the blood spray.
Politically.
Stab him a few times right in the stomach for good measure.
unidentified
It looks like they restarted the computer.
alex jones
As if they're not going to hack.
I said try to keep the signs off.
I mean, it might be technical difficulties too.
jordan holmes
They're getting a little punch drunk now.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think Alex might have had a few drinks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, now they're all...
I still don't think he's had a few drinks.
unidentified
No, probably not.
jordan holmes
I think it's at that...
dan friesen
He's just tired.
jordan holmes
You get to that 4 or 5 a.m. moment where you're just...
You stop being...
If you remember a lock-in...
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Do you remember when people used to do lock-ins?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And you would get to that 4 or 5 and everybody would be weirdly giddy because everybody's so tired.
They're like...
The real you would come out.
dan friesen
I don't know if that's the real you.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's the real Alex.
dan friesen
I'm scared of that possibility.
jordan holmes
Cut his throat.
Push it in lovingly.
I want to kill.
dan friesen
Politically.
jordan holmes
I wish I'd stab him in the gut.
dan friesen
For good measure, he says.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That part wasn't political, though.
That was just regular.
dan friesen
But to be fair, they had some technical difficulties and couldn't get Assange on the phone, so Alex had to vamp a little.
jordan holmes
Ooh, we got our first loser.
I'm not a grapefruit fan.
dan friesen
Oh, really?
I enjoy this.
jordan holmes
Not a big grapefruit fan.
dan friesen
This pample moose is not terrible.
jordan holmes
Pample moose.
dan friesen
Uh, fuck you.
jordan holmes
I have corrected language like five times tonight.
This is annoying.
I'm turning into my weird grammar Nazi self.
dan friesen
A number of them has been appropriate, because I have mispronounced a couple words or stammered over them.
jordan holmes
Well, convivial was egregious.
dan friesen
Yeah, but Pample Moose isn't.
Anyway, so Alex, at this point, they're trying to get Assange on the phone, and they're having technical difficulties.
Alex...
jordan holmes
So they think they're going to get Assange direct.
dan friesen
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
I mean, InfoWars thinks that they're going to call Assange and Assange is going to answer and talk to them.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
The people doing the press conference that they've been watching are calling Assange.
jordan holmes
That's right, because he can't leave the Equatorian embassy.
dan friesen
And so they're trying to get him on Skype and they had a little, like...
Tech difficulty or whatever.
And so Alex is like, I told you they were going to hack it!
They're not going to let Assange be on air!
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So clearly he's gung-ho in this.
The globalists are trying to stop him from talking.
When in reality it was just Skype dropped or something like that.
It's an international Skype call that happens for a long time.
So Assange gets on.
And he starts talking about the history of WikiLeaks.
And at this point...
Alex Jones starts to realize...
jordan holmes
It's not going to go his way.
dan friesen
He starts to realize this might be zero.
alex jones
All right, we're trying to figure out exactly what's being said here, ladies and gentlemen, just like everybody else.
Julian Assange is here with millions watching around the world.
unidentified
I think he just talked about building a pub or something, so we're trying to figure this out right now.
jordan holmes
This is kind of fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I like this.
jordan holmes
I kind of like this.
dan friesen
Alex is so confused.
jordan holmes
I like disappointed and confused Alex.
This is my favorite Alex.
dan friesen
I think...
jordan holmes
I'm starting to love this.
dan friesen
I think he wants to own a bar.
jordan holmes
I think he's opening a pub or something.
I don't fucking know.
I stayed up for this.
Oh, God.
What am I doing with my life?
dan friesen
He is nonplussed by this.
So in this next clip, Alex is more disappointed.
And then something happens with Owen Schroyer that I think is very interesting, considering he claims that he's from St. Louis.
unidentified
Okay.
None of them think to bring the mic close to the speaker.
alex jones
It's like way back in the back of the room, they're all just acting liberal.
Like, ugh, liberal.
Acting liberal?
unidentified
I'm honestly shocked at the two-bit nature of this so far.
jordan holmes
St. Louis me.
Why does he say shacked?
unidentified
Because he's from the East Coast.
jordan holmes
Oh, he was going with that accent?
I'm shacked?
dan friesen
It's three in the morning.
jordan holmes
So it's coming through.
dan friesen
His accent slipped.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
He's actually probably some sort of bougie East Coast asshole who comes from money and just claims that he's from Missouri.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Shacked?
He could be a Southie.
Could be a Southie.
dan friesen
Fine.
Even so, then why would you cover that up?
That would be perfect for the InfoWars milieu.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's true.
That would be perfect.
dan friesen
Whatever it is, it's something he's trying to pretend isn't really him.
I'm shacked.
jordan holmes
He's probably from New Hampshire.
dan friesen
Maybe.
I don't know.
unidentified
That's possible.
dan friesen
Whatever it is, it's some sort of...
jordan holmes
That's the only state on the East Coast I know.
All the rest of them are just...
Never mind.
dan friesen
What about Rhode Island?
jordan holmes
I've never heard of it.
dan friesen
It's tiny.
But that to me is really fascinating because it happened another time too.
I've heard that happen twice.
And both times he's said, shacked, or I can't remember what the other word was.
But then immediately he was like, I'm shocked.
jordan holmes
I am shocked.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
jordan holmes
Especially because if he did have an actual Missouri accent, shocked wouldn't even be a thing.
dan friesen
No.
When have you been so tired that you accidentally pronounced something in a regional accent that wasn't your actual speaking voice?
jordan holmes
Oh, that's crazy because I am from Zimbabwe, so I can't let that...
unidentified
Hmm.
jordan holmes
Hmm.
That was the wrong country.
dan friesen
No, we're getting an interesting point from the chat room.
That is that Wisconsin also has that kind of accent.
jordan holmes
Ah, there we go.
dan friesen
Which is true.
jordan holmes
Or Minnesota.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
Minnesota sounds more reasonable now.
dan friesen
No, because I think...
I don't know.
There's something very specific about the eh to it that seems East Coast.
I might just be biased because I grew up in Boston for a little bit when I was younger.
But that stinks of Massachusetts.
In my experience.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
The vowel is slightly different.
The phonem.
Well, that's why I went directly to Southie.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Boston.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And Owen Schroer is kind of...
jordan holmes
Boston.
dan friesen
He's kind of gingery.
unidentified
Is he gingery?
dan friesen
Yeah, that also goes along with the sort of traditional Boston.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Anyway, in this next clip, Alex Jones realizes this fucking thing is a mess.
alex jones
Well, I don't want to be negative or mean here, but we're just going to be honest.
It's all we can do.
This is a freaking train wreck.
And I'm glad my crew came in and worked really hard tonight.
We are like 10 minutes into incoherent babble.
unidentified
No, no.
alex jones
I mean, can I just hear like...
jordan holmes
No, it's coherent babble.
alex jones
So I can like sit in the ring race where this is at.
I mean, because I'm sitting here and we've got him over the hot coals here.
And again, in the incoherent babbling, are you hearing anything?
unidentified
I'm struggling to make out a lot of what he's saying.
owen shroyer
I've been trying to hear the words Clinton or Democrats or U.S. election.
unidentified
I haven't really heard any of those key words.
alex jones
Well, in case he's doing it, let's go back to it.
We're just not intellectual enough to understand this.
Here, let's go back to it.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
Eh, might be a little bit of insight.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's entirely...
That's probably the most honest thing he's ever said.
We might be too stupid to understand this.
dan friesen
I mean, he's being glib, but yeah.
But there's like, I mean, he's just talking about the history of WikiLeaks.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That's what the press conference is about.
And the reason that, like, because they are looking for X, Y, and Z in it, and you only get A, they're like, oh, I don't understand any of this.
This is all Greek to me.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
This is babble.
This is nonsense.
It's just their disappointment showing through.
jordan holmes
Like, to the actual reality of the press conference, can you really point to, Any earth-shattering things other than Chelsea Manning's revelations and the way that they fucked up the U.S. election for WikiLeaks?
dan friesen
No.
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
dan friesen
No.
There's some interesting stuff, possibly.
There's some things that are interesting.
jordan holmes
No, they put together a lot of releases that...
Are embarrassing for the U.S. government, but a lot of those were just things that are uninteresting to the general populace, and if you really get into them, you'll be like, oh, well, this does mean something, but for the most part, nobody paid attention to anything other than those two situations.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
So you don't really need to do a 10-year anniversary explanation.
You need to be more like, Chelsea Manning is a literal hero.
That was imprisoned for...
dan friesen
I mean, there could have been more of that in the press conference, maybe.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
But we can't rewrite history.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
All we can do is look at Alex Jones having a real bad time at 2, 3 in the morning.
jordan holmes
It's delightful.
I love it.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex Jones fully realizes that this is nothing.
And then he floats a theory.
julian assange
I've seen the internet, and I understand that there's enormous expectation in the United States.
alex jones
Yeah, there's enormous expectation!
unidentified
Hey!
Built up by him.
alex jones
Here we go.
unidentified
I love it!
We're going to make a major publication in relation to the United States.
At a particular hour, we don't do it at 3 a.m.
alex jones
We don't do it at 3 a.m.
This is like, it is a troll to get us to tune into WikiLeaks so these idiots can get on TV with their hair sticking up.
He just admitted it.
We don't do it at 3 a.m.
Oh, my God.
Hit it with Hillary, I guess.
jordan holmes
This is my favorite.
dan friesen
This is my favorite, Alex.
He is now insisting that...
jordan holmes
He is whining petulantly like a little bitch.
dan friesen
Exactly.
unidentified
I love it.
jordan holmes
I love it.
dan friesen
He is now insisting that Assange has made a deal with Hillary.
That's what he said there at the end of the clip.
unidentified
He's made a deal!
jordan holmes
He's made a deal!
dan friesen
Which he reinforces in this next clip.
unidentified
is going to publish before the end of the year is of a Before the end of the year, he's made a deal!
alex jones
Before the election, jackass!
34 days!
jordan holmes
34!
alex jones
Private pile!
34!
34, private pile!
What is that?
It's a goddamn jelly donut!
And why don't we have jelly donuts?
Because you're a disgusting liberal fob!
jordan holmes
Devastating.
Thanks, Royer.
alex jones
Devastating.
jordan holmes
You're great.
unidentified
Operation Asswipe, launched by Julian Assange.
So far, a devastating letdown.
dan friesen
So, they're getting bitter.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's so good!
dan friesen
So, the thing is, like, if Alex, at this point in October of 2016, was so confident about Trump and everything, like...
Why are you freaking out about how we only have 34 days for secret information to be released by this organization in order to win the election?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's desperate for this information.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Before he's banging on the table screaming 34 days.
Kind of gives a different picture than his, I knew he was going to win all along.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
But that's just me.
jordan holmes
Nah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I just...
I just...
This is...
This is so good.
This is like...
If every single one of his narratives were broadcast live, he would constantly be like, Oh, I'm wrong.
unidentified
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, I'm wrong.
Oh, no.
Like, that's why you don't do things live, Alex.
unidentified
You're wrong about everything.
dan friesen
And again, it's why Roger Stone has accidentally rat-fucked him.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
So, in this next clip...
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the reason that...
That is the reason other news outlets use teleprompters and don't go live to this shit and pre-tape their overnight shit because they can't verify it on the day.
dan friesen
Also, that's why news outlets don't be like, here we go.
unidentified
You don't hear Jake Tapper being like, here's my prediction.
jordan holmes
Let's fucking do this.
dan friesen
Here's my prediction.
This interview will verify every little thing that I hope and pray for.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Oh, good God.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, at this point, things turn ugly.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And Alex gets really mean.
alex jones
Is it true?
Yes, it's true.
unidentified
This man has no dick.
jordan holmes
Real laugh.
That's a real laugh.
dan friesen
If you couldn't hear over Jordan's cackly laugh, after he said, this man has no dick, it's a constant...
unidentified
Like, he cracked his shit up.
He loved it.
dan friesen
He's like, I nailed it.
unidentified
Listen, I'm not gonna lie, I agree with him.
jordan holmes
That was hilarious.
alex jones
He did the big tell.
He goes, by the end of the year, they're going to wait until the election's over and release whatever it is.
unidentified
Who's got a bigger man piece?
Michelle Obama or Julian Assange right now?
alex jones
Fuck you, Shreya!
unidentified
We're not trying to be mean to Julian Assange.
This has been an interesting podcast.
alex jones
Let's go back to this guy.
Let's go back to Julian Assange, who I liked until this moment.
I'm having a real problem.
dan friesen
You're having some problems.
jordan holmes
It was in the WikiLeaks, but not this time.
unidentified
Not this time.
jordan holmes
This time, I am greatly disappointed.
dan friesen
Oh my god.
So, this next clip.
jordan holmes
Troyer fucking ruined it!
I was having so much fun.
When he directs it at somebody like Julian Assange, I get to just relax and be like, I am enjoying this too!
And then Troyer's like...
Let's be sexist.
dan friesen
Don't worry, it's not over.
jordan holmes
Let's be a fucking monster.
dan friesen
Don't worry, Alex's bullshit is not nearly over.
This goes on quite a while.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
But in this next clip, we get what I am going to label...
Perhaps the weirdest...
I'm going to spoil it ahead of time.
This is an ad pivot.
jordan holmes
Also, Schreier is being racist as well.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's being all of this.
jordan holmes
He's going all in on being sexist, racist, disrespectful...
What else you got?
dan friesen
He's the Neapolitan of bigotry at this point.
But this next clip, dude, this is the weirdest fucking ad pivot I've ever heard in my entire time.
alex jones
But you know, it is karma.
We troll a lot.
We've been trolled.
unidentified
That is the hearing smiles.
alex jones
Oh, now he's going to hawk some products.
InfoWarsLife.com, InfoWarsStore.com.
You can buy our non-GMO airline sheets wide selection.
And I guarantee you, you will actually grow some real vegetables, fruit trees, you name it.
Probiotic, fade him down, please.
Biome Defense, high-powered InfoWars probiotics.
dan friesen
That's so weird.
jordan holmes
So he's like, oh, now he's going to fucking sell some product.
By the way, we have 30% off on...
dan friesen
No, no, no, no, no.
What's fascinating to me about that is, I think there's three pieces of that that's crazy.
First is, eh, we troll people a lot, we got trolled.
jordan holmes
I know, that's so weird.
dan friesen
Which is like admitting that you're not a journalism outlet, first of all.
And second of all, you didn't get trolled by Assange, you got trolled by...
Your rat fucker in-house Roger Stone.
Second is that Julian Assange is celebrating the 10th anniversary of WikiLeaks, and there's a book.
He brings it up.
He's like, oh, now he's trying to hawk some products.
And it's not the, I'm going to hawk some products, too.
unidentified
It's...
dan friesen
Like a knee-jerk reaction.
jordan holmes
Right.
Somebody hawked products.
For some reason, I have to.
There's a product hawking going on.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Okay, so we go out to a bar with Alex.
He starts saying some crazy shit.
We're just like...
Hey, we have some knowledge fight buttons, and he will shut it down and just start selling us shit immediately.
dan friesen
But it'll be muscle memory.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's not even aware that he's doing it at first, and then as the ball rolls, he's like, shut that down, shut it down a little bit.
I gotta do a real ad.
jordan holmes
Lower it.
dan friesen
Listen to this one more time with that in mind.
alex jones
But you know, it is karma.
We troll a lot.
We've been trolled.
unidentified
That is the shooting smiles.
alex jones
Oh, now he's going to hawk some products.
InfoWarsLife.com.
unidentified
That's my whole memory.
alex jones
Just a medium.
Let me see his widest selection.
dan friesen
As it goes on, that's when he gets into the, like, I started it, let's fucking go through with it.
It's astounding.
It shows that what is always in his heart...
Is selling shit.
When you were saying that your real self comes out, this is where I would make that argument.
As opposed to the slit your throat.
That's in there.
That's in there.
That's the real self.
jordan holmes
That's in the mix.
dan friesen
More the, I do sell seeds.
Let me talk about them.
jordan holmes
Wait!
Also, I've never heard him sell seeds before.
dan friesen
He's got a lot of seeds.
jordan holmes
He's got seeds?
dan friesen
Heirloom seeds.
jordan holmes
And then he guarantees that you're going to grow some real plants?
Isn't that how seeds work?
dan friesen
It's one of his old sponsors.
It's one of those old ones that stuck around a long time, like the survival foods.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Survival seed banks.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And what have you.
jordan holmes
How is Hide Your Guns working?
dan friesen
Someone did tell me that that website still exists.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
I'm not going to go to it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Owen turns on Julian Assange.
jordan holmes
Okay.
owen shroyer
He does seem, I mean, he does, in this video, again, I'm hoping, alright, I'm going to keep my fingers crossed Julian Assange will come out with something still.
unidentified
He's still talking.
But he kind of seems, he's coming off like a bit of a cuck.
alex jones
No, no, no.
He said, by the end of the year, hey buddy, there's two months to the end of the year after the election.
We have 34 days!
34 days, Pyle, to save the world from Hillary that wants to kill you!
What the hell's your problem?
unidentified
Do you want to kick ass or do you want to start chewing concrete?
alex jones
You've got two choices.
Start giving us the data, Assange, or go to Easter Bunny Place.
unidentified
I came here to chew bubblegum and listen to Assange leaked documents, and I got neither.
alex jones
And I'm all out of bubblegum.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
Man, I have never been trolled like this.
dan friesen
Hoo boy.
unidentified
Hoo boy.
dan friesen
Their references didn't work out.
The two-man act is falling apart.
jordan holmes
It is not good.
dan friesen
No, it's...
jordan holmes
I thought I could rely on...
Well, one, Owen Schroer is the fucking worst at this.
dan friesen
He's not good.
jordan holmes
He is really bad at this.
dan friesen
I wish his Boston accent would just let it free.
jordan holmes
I mean, I came here to chew bubblegum and listen to...
dan friesen
And listen to Assange.
jordan holmes
One, too long.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And two...
You can't end that with and I got neither because that's not a joke.
That's a disappointment.
dan friesen
I honestly think that's a C in terms of a line.
You think so?
Well, but the reason that I came to chew bubblegum and kick ass and I'm all out of bubblegum works is because both of those things are things that you have control over.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Like, I can chew bubblegum or I can kick ass.
jordan holmes
Right.
Also, Rowdy Roddy delivered the hell out of that.
unidentified
Right, but you can't control what Julian Assange is going to do.
dan friesen
So you're kind of like, I am either going to chew bubble gum or passively take in this thing that didn't happen, and I don't have gum.
jordan holmes
You should buy some gum.
He could have bought some gum.
dan friesen
It doesn't really work, but he hit that cuck hard.
jordan holmes
No, the cuck was good, and then Alex came in with just garbage.
Alex is bad.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He's not doing his part.
jordan holmes
Alex is out.
dan friesen
He's not doing his part in this brother's routine.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But, fuck you for thinking that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because Alex is about to come through with a haymaker in this next clip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Is this the death of WikiLeaks?
I mean, are we...
alex jones
We thought...
We kiss this guy's ass.
unidentified
We thought we were about to have, like, a rebirth.
owen shroyer
We thought we were going to have, like, a new explosion of WikiLeaks, and now are we seeing the exact opposite?
alex jones
This is Hillary's October surprise.
unidentified
Come on, Assange.
alex jones
Julian Assange.
Julian Assange.
Trolling the world is Hillary's October surprise.
unidentified
Come on, Assange.
alex jones
Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug.
jordan holmes
Hillary butt plug!
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Shit!
dan friesen
Were you thrilled to be...
jordan holmes
Love it!
dan friesen
Were you excited to be lip syncing over that?
jordan holmes
I was!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I was going with some Vic Mensa, by the way.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It was the rebirth of The Rock.
dan friesen
So, Dwayne Johnson?
unidentified
Mm-mm.
dan friesen
Okay.
Hillary, her October surprise.
jordan holmes
She's got a butt plug.
dan friesen
Well, she has a butt plug, and that is that she has...
Co-opted Julian Assange.
She has made a deal with him.
And that's the surprise.
We've been trolled.
jordan holmes
I love how extreme...
It is nice to know that his insanity always has to go extreme.
Because now, of course, he loves WikiLeaks again so much.
It was in the WikiLeaks.
We all knew it the whole time.
But for one night, he just...
Hated them so much!
dan friesen
He's tired and they're the reason he's awake.
unidentified
I know!
jordan holmes
It's so good!
dan friesen
It's fascinating because the speculation and where he's going with whatever his narratives are, it's so counter to just being like, if he were you and me...
And we were doing an everyday radio show, let's say.
And Julian Assange made this announcement, and we were like, let's stay up until 3 and watch this and stream it.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
And it turned out he was doing, just like, this is our 10th anniversary.
He would be like, oh, I guess we had it wrong.
You know, there's no information here, I guess, but happy 10th anniversary.
Instead, Alex is like, he has turned on us.
jordan holmes
I think the most, if we were doing a daily radio show.
And you were like, hey, let's stay up until 3. One, I would have been like, nah, I'm good.
Two, if we did stay up, I would have been like, oh man, fuck that guy.
Alright, what else is going on?
You doing anything you want to drink?
I don't know.
Let's get out of here.
It would have been very simple.
Instead of, this man betrayed me, and I cannot stand betrayal.
My soul is dead.
dan friesen
He feels so fucking cucked.
jordan holmes
Hilarious.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, we get clear that the reason that he feels so bad is because Roger told him it would be big.
alex jones
All right, that's enough.
We may go back to the feed in a moment, but I'm going to let the crew get home and get some sleep here.
unidentified
You think we can't hear what we're saying?
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, we're not losers because we got trolled by Julian Assange.
He's done some good work in the past.
We know he's under a lot of pressure being threatened.
But I can tell you, he keeps promising this damning, totally destructive evidence.
And then he doesn't release this now 34 days out.
And now he's saying he'll release it before the end of the year.
So that smacks of a sellout.
They're claiming they're going to release documents every few days until the election.
But I know they tweeted out and said damning evidence, decisive information.
That Hillary Clinton was done.
I mean, this is what they were saying.
It's what they said through intermediaries, what they said to our sources.
And then he makes this little joke and smiles.
I don't tell you this type of stuff at 3 a.m.
Well, it's 5.30 a.m., bro, Eastern Time.
4.30 as we speak exactly Central Time.
So here's the good news.
We have all the real whistleblowers.
We have the documents.
jordan holmes
You don't know.
unidentified
In fact, wait, you can't even claim that.
dan friesen
No, of course not.
jordan holmes
You can't do that because literally you did a show.
Because you didn't have the documents!
dan friesen
And you were screaming, we got 34 days.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
If you had the real whistleblowers and real documents, this would be, you would be in bed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the idea that you are, that you have those documents and you could release them, but you were waiting for Julian Assange to release them.
Because he has a wider audience.
One, cucks out the fact that you don't have an audience.
Two, cucks out the fact that you don't have the documents.
And three, you had to say, we're not losers.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, he did have to say that, because the audience might think he's a loser.
jordan holmes
Because he is a loser.
dan friesen
He's a loser, little titty baby.
jordan holmes
He's a loser, little titty baby.
dan friesen
So now the real true comedy of this is that Alex has been having people on, like, Tonto Speranto.
Not a real name.
I mean, Tonto's his chosen nickname.
We allow it.
And people like...
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with no.
I don't allow it.
dan friesen
Tosh Plumlee.
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure that's offensive.
dan friesen
But he has these people on who have proven Benghazi in his worldview.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like Tonto and Tosh Plumlee, they've proven that Hillary Clinton was fucking out of control and she did Benghazi.
Why, at the beginning of this show, would he be saying, oh, what's going to happen is that...
jordan holmes
He's going to confirm...
dan friesen
He's going to prove...
jordan holmes
Everything that we say that we did not prove.
You know it.
I know it.
We didn't prove a goddamn thing.
dan friesen
He doesn't know what proving is.
Maybe he does, and that's worse.
jordan holmes
Well, he does, and that's why he did the show.
He has to know what proving is.
Because he had to do the show in order to prove that shit.
dan friesen
Well, you saw it halfway through, and he was like, alright, so he's gonna give us the dirt, and then we're gonna write the articles and be out before everyone.
jordan holmes
We're going to write the articles after...
He gives us the dirt.
dan friesen
He was doing a business meeting in the middle of it.
Like, here's what we're going to do on break.
Everyone put your hand in.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Basically.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Because he doesn't have shit.
But he does have this.
unidentified
I'm still trying to figure out what we just witnessed here.
jordan holmes
You should not be trying that hard.
unidentified
A complete two-bit hack job.
jordan holmes
They can't even get quality audio.
unidentified
They can't get quality video.
jordan holmes
They can't coordinate enough.
alex jones
And by the way, those of you...
I loved how...
I know I was going to give you hardcore info and said I would, but I'm...
dan friesen
You are saying that you couldn't have...
jordan holmes
I know I was going to.
And I said I would.
dan friesen
He didn't say that.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to.
dan friesen
But then also, like, you can't even give us good audio?
That's where we flash back to the beginning of the show when Owen's mic wasn't on.
jordan holmes
Hey.
alex jones
I'm sorry.
Now's not the time.
It was like, and by the way, if you expect me at 3 a.m. to give me anything, you're dumb.
That was the tell.
dan friesen
But buy my book.
alex jones
These sociopaths and people, they always gotta stab you in the back, like...
And just say, oh, I didn't imply this was happening.
I didn't set you up.
No.
By the way, if you thought you'd get it at 3 a.m., you were wrong.
He's really hurt himself.
Let me tell you, I know how the web works, how the world works.
You have really done it, buddy boy.
You better release it all within 12 hours or you're done.
rob dew
We've been wiki-rolled.
That's what they're saying on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Wiki-rolled.
alex jones
We've been wiki-rolled.
jordan holmes
Wiki-rolled.
alex jones
Who bought them TV's, bitch?
jordan holmes
Tell me that!
alex jones
Move, bitch!
Get out the way!
Get out the way, bitch!
Get out the way!
Move, bitch!
Get out the way!
I mean, you get out the way, man.
Well, and that's what I'm saying.
You think you bitched us?
You think you rolled us?
Yeah, you ain't seen nothing yet.
jordan holmes
I thought we were in an info war.
I don't know what these guys were doing up here today.
alex jones
I'm rolling Hillary.
I'm the dark heart.
We ain't backing down.
Just because you're a fake chump, don't think we are!
unidentified
That was soft.
alex jones
Get ready!
unidentified
That was soft.
alex jones
I'll double down because of this.
I won't be associated with you!
unidentified
I think we got a new...
jordan holmes
Who was it that remixed the last one?
dan friesen
I don't remember who did that.
jordan holmes
Oh, I think we got a new one to toss in there.
We got a bunch of new verses to add to that song now.
dan friesen
He heard that song and he just got into the get out the way part of it and then accidentally remembered too many other words from it.
unidentified
Who about the TV's bitch?
jordan holmes
Also, literally at the beginning of that clip, he just described Roger Stone.
That was it.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
That was it.
He just described Roger Stone whenever he's going on about how, oh, we had all this information and we were told that this was going to happen and it was supposed to come and we had intermediaries and we had the whole thing and it turns out we got nothing.
And then he's going to say, and he was like, you just gave the exact answer that Roger Stone is about to give you.
alex jones
What about those TVs, bitch?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That's what Roger Stone's going to say.
So we've got one more clip left here, and this is sort of the end of his adventure in the early hours of the morning.
In this clip...
jordan holmes
This is our Colonel Cartsey dead moment.
dan friesen
In this clip, Alex Jones and Owen Schroyer give a little bit of advice to Assange and then close the only way that an InfoWars show can.
This is basically the free bird of InfoWars.
Everyone knows exactly how this show is going to end.
alex jones
My listeners want to hear news covered and phone calls and cover, you know, video clips, not, oh my God, dude, Sanz is on.
I thought he had this big data dump.
Now he's destroyed himself.
owen shroyer
Yeah, Sanz, if you want to sell some books, here's a little advice.
alex jones
Come on, give us the data and say, it's hard to pay for all this.
We're under attack.
We need your support.
Instead, he didn't care enough to have audio that could be heard.
unidentified
Or a quality video.
owen shroyer
I mean, you're telling me, and he's built this up.
jordan holmes
This isn't like he just threw this together overnight.
They've been planning this.
unidentified
This is something they had to plan.
alex jones
Yeah, we just decided today on air.
I said, we're going live tonight.
We're here.
It all went off great.
Great job, crew.
And by the way, this crew deserves bonuses.
Some of them aren't paid that well because we don't make that much money around here.
Buy a bunch of products.
Empowerstore.com.
Buy them.
You need them.
They're all great for preparing us, whether it's storable food or non-GMO seeds or T-shirts or books or videos.
jordan holmes
Come on, Super Male Vitality.
alex jones
Come on!
dan friesen
Slam dunk.
jordan holmes
Come on!
Give me some Super Male Vitality.
dan friesen
Slam dunk at Pivot.
Jesus fucking Christ.
jordan holmes
I love...
That he just reveals, like, and they were planning this for months.
We just decided to do this on a whim.
Like, he just said, we're bad at what we do.
dan friesen
Roger said something earlier.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But also, the other thing that's really fun about that is the ad pivot, the beginning of the ad pivot was, I don't pay these people well.
unidentified
These people are forced to work overtime.
dan friesen
Look, they don't get much money.
Buy some products.
jordan holmes
Technically, y 'all are salary, and this does not count as overtime.
dan friesen
Exactly.
So, I mean, disgraceful ad pivot to end this nonsense.
unidentified
Also, I love him giving ad pivot...
jordan holmes
Advice.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Like, that was the way that started.
It was just like, listen, if you want to sell some product, just say that you're underfunded.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Like, he was fucking cynically giving him advice on how to fuck over people.
dan friesen
Hey, Assange, if you want dum-dums to send you money...
Pretend you're a victim.
And then they're gonna fucking throw you so much money.
It's crazy.
unidentified
Do you have any idea the millions I'm making off this scam?
dan friesen
Assange, you should get in on this.
jordan holmes
If he was an overnight host, if he was like the 3am to 6am slot on a lot of shows, we would get such an honest version of Alex.
It would be incredible.
He would not know how to lie the correct way.
He's given up.
So much of the game on this one episode.
It's a delightful, delightful experience.
dan friesen
Because if he did overnight, his sleep schedule would adjust.
unidentified
Oh, that's true.
dan friesen
Eventually, he'd be able to lie very well early in the morning.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Fair enough.
dan friesen
But that brings us to the end of this adventure, and one of the funniest things that's ever happened on Infowars.
I got super excited about this bullshit that Roger Stone had lied to them about.
jordan holmes
So good.
dan friesen
And then they cucked themselves out as the night went on.
You know what's the best?
jordan holmes
Pre-show, you told me this was going to be good, clean fun.
And I thought, there's no way that InfoWars could ever just be good, clean fun.
This was, aside from the Michelle Obama thing, this was purely good, clean fun.
dan friesen
You know what the other thing that's really good, clean fun is?
That ad pivot is the spiritual end of the show.
But the actual end of the show is Rob Dew is in the booth, and Owen and Alex are at the desk.
And Alex is like...
unidentified
Alright, you guys can come in at 10 tomorrow and get off at 3 when the show's over.
You guys can get off at 3. You have a short day tomorrow.
I'm going to take off.
What do we do now?
dan friesen
And then Rob Dew is like, we got a video.
And Alex is like, how long is it?
Nine minutes.
Got two ads at the end.
unidentified
Like, is that the one that we were talking about?
Yeah, yeah, that's what we were talking about.
Alright, we're gonna do this video.
It's air traffic controller at the end of the night.
They had no idea how they were gonna end this.
No.
jordan holmes
They gotta have one production meeting a week at least.
Come on.
dan friesen
They legitimately thought they were gonna go all night with, like, a couple of researchers working behind the scenes of, like, Digging into whatever Assange had brought to the table.
unidentified
And instead, nothing.
dan friesen
And this truly is what happens when you allow yourself to listen to Roger Stone.
These are the dangers that can befall you.
jordan holmes
I know.
I somehow, I think, like, I suspect...
That Roger Stone is going to escape all of this.
No.
Not anymore.
Here's my theory.
Roger Stone lookalike goes to jail.
That's what I think is going to happen.
dan friesen
It's going to be an earnest situation.
jordan holmes
Or he's going to fake his own death?
We're going to find out he has a secret twin?
Roger Stone is the trickster god who gets out of everything.
dan friesen
If anyone deserves to live the life of Ernest Goes to Prison, it's Roger Stone at this point.
jordan holmes
I hate him and I hope he gets hit by a fucking truck.
But I'll be goddamned if there's not a part of me that's like...
Because he's like the con man.
dan friesen
No, do you want him to get hit by a car, fly 40 feet up in the air, land with stars around his head?
Like he's a goddamn cartoon character.
jordan holmes
Yeah, while on the other side of the street there's a homeless man sitting there who looks at his brown bag and then goes...
And tosses it in.
dan friesen
Throws it behind him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
Like, he's a fucking monster.
jordan holmes
He's a fucking monster.
dan friesen
But 50 years from now, his life will be the greatest story ever.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
And I can...
jordan holmes
No, like, his life is catch me if you can, essentially.
Like, that's what his life is.
dan friesen
Although the damage he's doing is profound, I can still admire that in real time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
To some extent.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.
If we could go back in time, he should have been murdered so soon, and it would have been fine.
Like, so much would have been better.
dan friesen
Well, that's what...
jordan holmes
But at the same time, goddammit, if it isn't weirdly fun to watch.
dan friesen
That was a comment that listener Steph made on our Facebook group about how, like, how the fuck has he lived this long?
jordan holmes
I know!
dan friesen
Through all the nonsense that he's been...
jordan holmes
He's the fucking Duke boys!
dan friesen
Yeah, it is to some extent.
jordan holmes
He just gets out of everything.
unidentified
God!
jordan holmes
I hate him.
dan friesen
Well, we'll see.
We'll see if he lasts this one.
jordan holmes
See, the only...
dan friesen
That's the thing.
jordan holmes
That's the thing.
The only person...
Like, fuck Breitbart.
Like, I couldn't give a shit.
I do want to have a drink with Roger Stone.
Like, he's the only person...
I feel like...
dan friesen
No, I think I could hang with that, too.
jordan holmes
If we went out with Roger Stone, somehow we'd wind up having a threesome, and then we'd wake up the next day and be like, wait a second, hold on, Roger!
dan friesen
None of us would do that.
jordan holmes
And he would be gone.
unidentified
Yeah.
He would have disappeared in the night.
dan friesen
You know, I...
It's this weird, like, confluence of...
Personability and monstrousness.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Where, like, Alex Jones is not personable and a monster.
Roger Stone seems fun and is a monster.
Same with Breitbart.
There are people who are like, I think we could have fun.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I don't know.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I would never, ever agree with Roger Stone on any point.
dan friesen
It doesn't matter.
Like, big picture.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it doesn't matter for what we're interested in, because...
These things are never going to happen.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Never going to have a drink with Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I think if we get big enough, Roger Stone would be like, hey, let me give you some advice.
Like, I swear to God, I think Roger Stone would contact us and try and screw us over.
dan friesen
By that time that Roger...
By the time we get big enough to be on his radar...
jordan holmes
Oh, he should totally be in jail.
dan friesen
We will have to bring a drink to his commissary.
That's how the deal would have to go.
jordan holmes
Hey, man, fucking...
Look.
Our girl Carrie Callahan goes to meet...
No, she's Carrie Callahan in my heart.
She goes to meet Mark Richards.
dan friesen
I don't know if they get drunk.
It seems like it, but I don't know if they actually do.
I don't know.
Anyway, the real thing here is that whether or not Roger Stone did anything explicitly illegal...
Alex Jones did say he did earlier in this episode.
jordan holmes
No, he should go to jail.
dan friesen
So we'll see how that works out.
This has been fun, Jordan.
But, if you want to find us, we are at knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
That's where we are!
unidentified
I'm going to buy markrichards.com.
jordan holmes
Is that available?
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
Maybe.
We'll find out.
jordan holmes
Let's hope.
Yeah, I got something out.
You're going to put something out here soon.
You can follow us on Twitter.
dan friesen
What am I going to put out?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Whatever it is you do.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
I don't know what you write.
dan friesen
Check out Jordan's blog over at...
jordan holmes
Nah, don't worry about it.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
It's just me threatening...
dan friesen
But you just had a new post.
jordan holmes
I did.
I took a couple of weeks off because every time...
So I can't...
Like, I wrote about gun control...
I don't know, what, nearly a year ago?
And there's just nothing else to write.
There's no point in continuing to say the same thing over and over again.
dan friesen
The points have been made.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Now is the time for us to just fucking come together and ignore everybody else and not give any concessions and just fucking do it.
And until we can do it, there's no conversation to have.
There's no like, oh, well, maybe we should raise the age.
No, we should ban all of these fucking weapons.
That's it.
Problem solved.
You can also follow us on iTunes.
dan friesen
Yeah, and on Twitter, knowledge underscore fight.
jordan holmes
You can go to Facebook.
dan friesen
Yeah, you can.
jordan holmes
We've got a special group that you will not be able to find unless you learn.
dan friesen
Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant if you want to do that.
Also, just good times all around.
jordan holmes
Good times all around.
dan friesen
Is that a new send-off?
jordan holmes
I think that's a new send-off.
dan friesen
Jordan, would you like to choose someone who sucks?
jordan holmes
I think so.
I am going to have to give it over and just...
As much as I hate to do this, but go fuck yourself, Roger Stone.
dan friesen
No!
Bullshit.
I would like to say that I'm gonna veto that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Can you do that?
dan friesen
I am.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna give you minus one point.
dan friesen
That's fair.
Because Roger Stone's rat fuckery is the only reason that this episode exists.
jordan holmes
That's a good point, but in the larger context.
Anyways.
dan friesen
I'm gonna say, go fuck yourself Owen Schroyer's fake accent.
jordan holmes
Good call.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
unidentified
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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