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Feb. 14, 2018 - Knowledge Fight
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#129: David Rothschild Interview

Today, Dan tells Jordan about the very weird time when Alex Jones somehow got David de Rothschild to call into his show. At the time, David was promoting the 7/7/07 Live Earth concerts and the book about climate change that he had written, but instead of really talking about any of that, Alex decides to be a huge dick and spout antisemitic conspiracy theories about his guest's family. It is a mess.

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alex jones
16:13
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dan friesen
49:00
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david rothschild
12:05
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jordan holmes
30:21
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alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
I like to sit around, drink novelty burgers, and talk about Alex Jones.
We are in different positions on the video screen for people watching live.
Sorry if that startles anyone.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Also, sorry, apparently, about Ghetto Cowboy.
People are not thrilled with that song.
jordan holmes
Furious.
I am absolutely furious.
It's like if 2 Chainz weren't ironic.
It's so frustrating to me.
dan friesen
For everyone listening to this as a podcast later, when we do these shows live, I put together a playlist beforehand.
Boy, people do not like the Mo Thugs family ghetto cowboy.
That is not hot.
jordan holmes
Put together is probably not the words I would choose.
I think I would choose inflict a playlist upon people.
That's probably what I would do.
unidentified
Harsh.
jordan holmes
I know.
I'm sorry, Dan.
dan friesen
You know I love you.
The fun of this show is that I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
And all the lyrics to Ghetto Cowboy.
david rothschild
Oh, don't!
jordan holmes
Why are you saying that like that's a pride?
It's not a point of pride, man!
dan friesen
That came out when Bone Thugs-N-Harmony were still legit.
jordan holmes
Yes!
unidentified
It's crazy.
dan friesen
That song shouldn't exist.
jordan holmes
No, that is the one situation on music where we agree.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's fine.
So, Jordan, we are in the middle of what I would call the ramp-up.
Towards our endgame documentary being recorded and released.
And so it's difficult, man.
It's difficult to put in this much time listening to Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
And Ghetto Cowboy.
That's for goddamn sure.
dan friesen
I can listen to that every day, all day.
jordan holmes
I wish that weren't true.
dan friesen
And I will tell you this, it's difficult, but the only thing that's getting me through it is the love and support of our listeners.
And I'd like to give a shout-out to a couple of new donors.
So I'd like to say, first of all, thank you for going out there to Jim.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Jim.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much, Jim.
Welcome aboard.
dan friesen
Jim has donated on the time travel level also, so we will be doing an episode for him in the near future.
jordan holmes
Which, by the way, we remembered there's a time travel last episode.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Also, I'd like to give a shout-out to another new donor.
What's up out there, Nikki?
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Nikki.
jordan holmes
Hello, Nikki!
dan friesen
If you'd like to become a policy wonk and support the show, you can go to knowledgefight.com, click support the show.
Also, I'd like to say thank you to everybody.
A couple people have already responded to the Avengers initiative.
If you don't know what that is, go to the last minute of our last episode.
jordan holmes
Which, if you don't listen to the last minutes of our episode...
Totally respect that.
dan friesen
It's very much like the post-credits sequence.
jordan holmes
The Avengers, yes, yeah.
I got it.
I got it.
unidentified
There we go.
dan friesen
Anyway.
So, before we get going here, I'm going to explain what we're up to.
But before we do, I think I might have a slight problem with my iTunes, which feeds the audio.
So let me check something really quick before we do.
Vamp a little bit.
Talk to the people.
jordan holmes
Alright, I didn't realize that we were going to...
Okay, now that's a weird thing to cut into my vamping.
dan friesen
Alex, I had something to say.
jordan holmes
I'm trying very hard to fucking...
dan friesen
Get back to your van.
jordan holmes
Oh, am I still vamping?
dan friesen
Please, please.
jordan holmes
All right, let me tell you something about the Black Panther soundtrack.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't want to hear it.
jordan holmes
All right, okay, now this is frustrating.
dan friesen
I fixed the problem.
jordan holmes
Okay, fine, fine.
Anyways, Kendrick Lamar.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Best rapper since he was 25. Anybody who disagrees is a fucking liar.
dan friesen
And they must have forgot.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Because that's a reference to the actual best rapper of all time, Roy Jones Jr.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
He had a great album called Round One The Album.
Don't know if you did anything after that.
Anyway, Jordan, I was tempted to do a Project Camelot episode today to give everyone a little bit of a break from Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Before we jumped into the never-ending Endgame documentary.
dan friesen
I thought it might be appropriate for us to do something like that, give a break.
And I looked through the annals of Project Camelot.
jordan holmes
Didn't go well, did it?
dan friesen
I don't remember which...
Mark Richards episodes we've done, and I don't want to do enough.
I don't want to look through it.
jordan holmes
I don't want to fucking do this.
dan friesen
So I kept looking.
jordan holmes
How crazy is Mark Richards?
I bet we could probably do one of the same episodes we did before.
dan friesen
Find new things.
jordan holmes
And find new things that are crazy about it.
dan friesen
I totally believe we could.
But then I was like, okay, what are we going to do?
What are we going to do?
And I started to, because I was searching for Project Camelot stuff, I started to find a bunch of weird alien life affirmational videos.
And I started watching them.
And I was like, I'm having a fun time.
I'm here.
unidentified
Click, click, click.
dan friesen
Then, maybe 20 minutes in, I'm like, I'm supposed to be finding something to cover.
We're not going to cover this.
jordan holmes
Wait, hold on.
Are we doing Eckhart Tolle today?
Is that what's about to happen?
dan friesen
The power of now is very important.
jordan holmes
That would be such a weird thing to discover about you.
This long into the podcast, all of a sudden, everybody's like, wait a second, hold on.
You're into motivational speakers?
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
Wait, I mean, let's...
Let's be totally transparent.
jordan holmes
Don't you dare.
dan friesen
I am sort of.
But with a grain of salt.
I will say that when my house burned down like six years ago or something like that, I lost all of my books.
Pretty much everything I owned was gone.
jordan holmes
All that was left.
dan friesen
Eckhart Tolle.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I was wandering around the streets because I had no home.
I had nowhere to go.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so I was wandering around and I went to a used bookstore and I was like, I am real bummed out.
I saw Eckhart Tolle, The Power of Now, and I was like...
Alright.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
It's three bucks.
jordan holmes
Do you know what just...
You just described how people join Scientology.
That's exactly what you just did right there.
dan friesen
I understand that, but I read it.
jordan holmes
If Dianetics was right next to the power of now, we would never have seen you again.
dan friesen
I read it, and I thought it was fine, but trite, and I never went that much further with it.
jordan holmes
And that's when you joined the Sea Orc.
dan friesen
No, but I can sort of respect some of the ideas that he puts out, as long as you don't go overboard with it.
Anyway, let's not dwell too deeply in that.
I was watching some of those videos.
I'm having a good time.
And then I found an hour-long interview that Milo Yiannopoulos did with Alex Jones.
And I was like, this might be fun.
And so I started watching.
jordan holmes
I have to listen to him talk, don't I?
dan friesen
No, because I'm not doing that.
I started watching that, and then I was like, this is blustery bullshit.
I thought it would be Alex actually opening up and saying a bunch of weird things.
jordan holmes
Wait, so Milo was interviewing Alex.
dan friesen
Yes, yes.
Weird.
It was for Milo's YouTube channel.
jordan holmes
Gross.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
It was fine, but it was just Trite and Alex Jones.
Not really.
Being an interview is almost like his show.
Well, yeah, it has to be.
He just spit narratives and acted like it was organic conversation between two people.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But then, I stumbled on something that I have long known has existed.
But I've forgotten that we should probably talk about.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And this is actually going to be an interesting lead-in because this is something that is mentioned but not covered in Endgame.
So when we do our Endgame breakdown, this, what we're going to talk about today, is referenced.
jordan holmes
Okay, so we're providing preemptive context.
dan friesen
Indeed.
jordan holmes
I love it.
That's a great idea, Dan.
dan friesen
So, in 2007...
jordan holmes
So, what you're saying is if you listen to this show passively, fucking get on board right now, otherwise the Endgame documentary is going to make no sense to you.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
I appreciate what you're trying to do, but no, that's not the case.
jordan holmes
Do you mean I'm trying to sell our goddamn show?
dan friesen
Yeah, don't do that.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Everything is standalone, everything is fine.
But, so, in 2007...
I don't know if you recall 2007.
jordan holmes
Not well.
dan friesen
July 7th, 2007.
Do you remember?
7-7-0-7.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
That was Independence Day, right?
dan friesen
Nope.
That was when they had that worldwide concert around the world.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Al Gore and Leonardo DiCaprio hosted the worldwide climate change concerts, Live Earth.
jordan holmes
Oh, did they fix it?
dan friesen
Yeah, they did.
Okay.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
I was in Greece when it happened.
I was with my family in Greece.
I was drunk on the streets of Athens, stumbling around.
Me and my brother were staying at a hostel.
I was drunk.
I had no idea that it was 7707, and I wandered into Town Square, and they had set up a giant projector screen in the middle of Athens, in this little commons area.
jordan holmes
This is pre-financial crash, so Greece was still happy at the time.
dan friesen
They were reasonably happy.
They were all very nice to me, but that's because I could say F. Caristo and shit like that.
jordan holmes
All right, all right.
dan friesen
But be that as it may.
jordan holmes
Fuck Caristo, for those of you who don't know.
dan friesen
Exactly.
That whack rapper Caristo.
So I stumble in and there's tons of Greeks sitting around watching and I'm like, what the fuck is this?
I'm like, oh my god, this is American pop culture.
Is that what you thought?
jordan holmes
You thought those exact words?
dan friesen
Well yeah, because I saw Metallica.
You could have just thought...
jordan holmes
Oh, this is Metallica, not this is American pop culture.
That's kind of a very distance thing to think.
dan friesen
Well, I hadn't seen any TV for like a month.
I was stuck in like ancient Corinth, this tiny town in Greece with my family.
And so I was starved for this.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And so I see it and it was like, oh, this is so great.
Right nearby, there's a little stand that sells, like, snacks and beers.
jordan holmes
And Eckhart Tolle books.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
Just beers.
And so I drink a bunch of mythoses and watch pop culture all night.
And it's great.
At the beginning of the night, James Blunt, he sings Baby, Baby, It's a Wild World.
He covers Cat Stevens.
And I'm like, this is terrible.
jordan holmes
That's the worst.
dan friesen
It was terrible.
But then at the end of the night, when it seems like most of the people are leaving, I'm like, I'm not going to be able to find my way back to the hostel if I don't leave soon.
No, of course not.
So I chug two more beers.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
In order to help you find your way back to the hostel.
dan friesen
Exactly.
As I'm finishing up the last one, real Cat Stevens comes on and is doing Wild World.
jordan holmes
Do you mean Yusuf Islam?
dan friesen
Well, he was going by Cat Stevens again at this point.
jordan holmes
Oh, really?
dan friesen
I think he was introduced as Cat Stevens.
I'm not entirely sure on the details.
Either way, it was a powerful experience for me.
Because my dad grew up...
Oh my god, I think someone is doxing Roy Jones Jr. in the chat room.
jordan holmes
About time.
About time!
dan friesen
Take that down.
jordan holmes
About time!
dan friesen
Take that down.
jordan holmes
I assume he played father and son.
dan friesen
Tea for the Tillerman was a great album.
jordan holmes
It was a great album.
One of the greatest albums of all time.
dan friesen
I always loved My Lady Darbanville.
It was a great song.
First Cut is the Deepest.
Much better than Sheryl Crow's version.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Anyway, I was very powerfully moved by the entire spectacle of it.
It rings out in my mind as one of the really beautiful moments in my life.
Being able to be in the middle of Greece among a bunch of strangers who a number of people talked to me.
We had a great time seeing a live performance by someone who I never thought I'd see live again because he had given up on his music at that point and said, no, fuck that.
That's not me.
That's the past.
jordan holmes
No, that's beautiful.
dan friesen
So anyway, this is my long way of saying that that concert happened.
jordan holmes
And now we're going to break down that concert.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
James Blunt also gave an interview with Milo Yiannopoulos.
Is that what you're about to say?
dan friesen
We are drinking zero-calorie Arnold Palmer's to the chat room.
Anyway, also...
One of the funders and backers of the Live Earth concert on 7707 was a man by the name of David Rothschild.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He is a member of the Rothschild's family.
jordan holmes
Well, we assumed that.
dan friesen
He's the youngest son of one of the Rothschild heirs in London.
For reasons that are still unclear to me, he ended up going on InfoWars.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
What good could possibly come of this?
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
jordan holmes
How long ago is this?
dan friesen
This is 2007.
jordan holmes
Was this 2007?
dan friesen
Yeah, in preparation for it.
jordan holmes
So he's trying to sell the unity of the world against climate change concert.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Alex fucking Jones.
dan friesen
And he had written a book about the dangers of climate change and ways that we can prepare and help out and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so I think that Alex...
I'll give you full disclosure ahead of getting into this.
I believe Alex lied to him in getting him onto the show.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
Because I think he probably said, we'll give you a platform to promote your book.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
Or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he was just like, alright.
So, what we've got in front of us, Jordan, is an interview between a Rothschild's heir and Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I am stoked.
This is going to be a train wreck.
dan friesen
Do you have any predictions about the tone this is going to take?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I think 14 people are going to die.
I think that's probably going to be the case.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
There's going to be a fire.
Is it just going to be like Alex accusing him of all the world's ills?
dan friesen
That'll come into play.
unidentified
Globalist.
dan friesen
I don't know if he uses the word.
I think he does.
jordan holmes
Does he use the hard J in Jew?
dan friesen
No, I don't think so.
From everything I can tell, I think that David Rothschild, David de Rothschild, he seems like a really cool dude.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Like, around this time, a little bit after, he created a boat entirely made out of, like, recycled plastic bottles.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And stuff like that to demonstrate the possible uses.
jordan holmes
That it was possible, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You could use it as building materials.
You don't have to use them just for more bottles or whatever.
He seems like he's a pretty decent dude.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can do a lot of good in the world if you have enough wealth to avoid having to think about a job and all that stuff.
Just because most rich people are evil doesn't necessarily mean that the comfortable life...
Maybe if we all had comfortable lives and we allowed...
dan friesen
I'm not sitting here totally supporting him and saying he's an awesome dude, but also he did go and get a naturopath degree.
He started a couple businesses and sold them.
jordan holmes
That doesn't count.
dan friesen
Like, he's not done nothing in his life.
But granted, he was able to do all of those things because he had the luxury to begin with.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So it's a middle ground.
He also had the possibility to just live on his ass, not doing anything.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
And he seems to have taken a pretty good approach to being lucky enough to be born into wealth.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
And if only more people would do that.
I'm just saying that my prejudice against the rich...
Could not be higher.
dan friesen
Yeah, I know that.
jordan holmes
Even if a rich person fucking paid for my cancer medications, I would be like, I'll kill you someday.
dan friesen
I don't disagree with that as a guiding principle, but at the same time, I think you gotta look at people as they are, not as they...
jordan holmes
Also, I don't have cancer, by the way.
Nobody needs to pay for my cancer medication.
dan friesen
Like one of those babies.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's right.
I should have said yet.
I should have said yet.
dan friesen
So, um...
The other thing, I need to say this very seriously to you ahead of this show.
There's going to be a bunch of stuff about climate change.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You are someone with a hair trigger.
Says who?
Everyone.
jordan holmes
Give one example.
dan friesen
Everyone in the chat room says that.
jordan holmes
Give 14 examples.
dan friesen
I need for you to...
jordan holmes
Give a year and two months worth of examples.
dan friesen
Well, here's what I'm saying.
I get that climate change denialism makes you angry.
I get that.
But you're going to have to stay that anger.
Because otherwise, this isn't going to be fun.
You're going to be screaming over these two men bickering like idiots.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
So what you're asking me is not to become a third man bickering with these two idiots.
dan friesen
Let's deal with their stupidity as we can.
jordan holmes
Not two idiots.
dan friesen
I know that you're going to have the feeling of wanting to scream this entire time.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Please.
Try and let the men talk.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's a rare occasion when a Rothschild heir is on Alex Jones' show.
jordan holmes
I understand.
I'm going to treat it with the level of restraint that I possibly can.
dan friesen
I appreciate that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Look forward to three minutes from now.
All right.
Here's the first clip where we get into what's going down.
jordan holmes
Should I preemptively scream about climate change to just get it out?
dan friesen
I think you already have.
unidentified
Okay.
The information war continues.
It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
alex jones
Well, Al Gore has introduced a global pledge for the young people going to the concert.
Loading on to the ships there at Wonderland.
And we are joined by David Mayer de Rothschild.
Al Gore, of course, is kicking off a string of global concerts this weekend on 777.
And the man who's written the official book that is the accompaniment to this, meant for elementary grade school children, is David Mayer de Rothschild, born in 1978, a British adventurer, I love that title, an environmentalist who is the head of Adventure Ecology, an expedition group raising awareness about climate change.
He is the youngest of the three children of Sir Evelyn de Rothschild, of the Rothschild banking family of England.
One of the arrows shooting out across the planet, invigorating everything.
Mr. Rothschild, thank you for coming on the show with us today.
david rothschild
Thank you for having me on the show.
That's quite an introduction there.
Thank you.
dan friesen
So already we get a sense of...
jordan holmes
So the abject sarcasm with which he said all of that stuff, fantastic.
dan friesen
Already Alex is coming at the gate being a little bit of a dick.
But it's pretty much, you know, it's restrained.
jordan holmes
Somewhat.
dan friesen
And honestly, if I were listening to this just blind, I would be like, oh, he's just going to do a voice.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Wait, do you mean Alex is going to do a voice?
dan friesen
Yeah, like David Rothschild is not calling into the fucking show.
Alex Jones is just doing his, hello!
unidentified
Yeah, right.
jordan holmes
That's entirely possible.
dan friesen
And so when over the air you hear like, oh, hello, it's nice, thanks for having me on.
Like, oh, what the fuck?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's nowhere near over the top enough for an Alex Jones voice.
dan friesen
Well, and so we get into our adventure with David Rothschild being very polite.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Which will eventually be his downfall, I assume, of this interview.
dan friesen
It's so unclear why he's here.
I don't know what's going on.
He must not have a publicist or something like that.
I don't know.
Anyway.
alex jones
Now, tell us why you, one of the young, vibrant heirs of one of the main arms of the Rothschild family, the House, is embarking on this selfless mission to save the Earth.
dan friesen
Already, that's dripping in.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
That's dripping in dickishness.
jordan holmes
The disdain.
Oh, what a dick.
dan friesen
Yeah, but let's see how the gentleman responds.
david rothschild
It's a good question.
I mean, I think for me it's about saying, you know, this is the only issue that we should be contending with right now because we only have one planet.
This is our house.
And without that, then all the other rooms in our house, which may be poverty or disease or conflict or whatever it may be, you know, then we don't have those because without a house, you have no rooms.
And so I think, for me, it's just I realized I was involved in an expedition across Antarctica four years ago.
I followed the same route the road Amazon did to the South Pole, and then I kited across the continent.
And during my three months on this Arctic...
I realized that we were having a huge effect on our ecosystems as human beings, but also that it was us who was vulnerable should these systems collapse.
It was our ability to live on this planet as we know it.
So that's why I dedicated myself to making sure we get this issue out there.
alex jones
Now, I've got a new poll out here.
Not going to engage with that reasonable thought at all.
dan friesen
So, Alex is coming in with his first rebuttal.
generally speaking, I think in a debate, it's probably best to use your best or second best point first, and then if you want to use your second best point first, leave the haymaker for last.
Those are two decent strategies.
jordan holmes
When you're setting up your set, you know, you do your second best joke first, you do your third best in the middle, you close with your best joke.
dan friesen
And his first thing that he comes out with is the Yes, which is not a good point at all.
It's not, because, you know...
We talk a lot about it, and I think...
I mean, Alex is going to bring this up and mislead people about it, but the idea that there's a consensus among scientists about climate change is absolutely true.
There has been consistently for years, but there's...
jordan holmes
Even ExxonMobil knows that.
dan friesen
The lowest a study has ever found in terms of tracking consensus has been 91%, and that's a suspicious study.
But one of the other things that they've studied is that there is a positive relationship between...
jordan holmes
Even the suspicious studies are above 90%.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
But in studying the correlation or the consensus issue, what they find is that there's a positive relationship between expertise in climate science and believing that there being a consensus.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So the less experience you have...
The more likely you are to believe that climate change isn't driven by man.
jordan holmes
Like our boy Moncton.
dan friesen
Right, right, exactly.
Someone who is a journalist, in theory.
So that sort of thing, of course you're always going to find the public doesn't necessarily have access to all of the understanding, all of the information.
jordan holmes
Smart people are stupid!
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, that's what it comes down to.
jordan holmes
That's basically what America says all the time.
dan friesen
So if 67% of the population doesn't believe that climate change is driven by man, that doesn't mean anything.
That just means that...
jordan holmes
67% of the population is wrong.
dan friesen
Or conceivably the people making the arguments about climate change need to do a better job of convincing people.
jordan holmes
Or the media has done everything possible to keep that from happening.
dan friesen
Or ExxonMobil is spending millions of dollars to sow dissent and confusion.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Wonder why.
unidentified
Ah!
jordan holmes
Can't think of any reason.
alex jones
Global warming.
What is the science proving that man-made global warming, A, is real, and B, will cause cataclysmic problems?
david rothschild
I think the report you really need to be looking at was a report that was released at the beginning of the year by the IPCC, which is the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
It's made up of 2,500 scientists from around the world, all in the field of climatic studies.
These are the brains, basically.
These are the guys who have been looking at this stuff for a very long time.
They come together, they put this report together, and there was a unanimous decision made and put across in this report.
alex jones
Now, Mr. Rothschild, a whole bunch of people, hundreds of them have gone public saying that they were included and asked their opinion in research, but that many of them never said that they agreed with man-made global warming or its causative effects.
unidentified
I think if you read, they actually...
jordan holmes
No!
Reading is bad!
dan friesen
Alex goes on to say, like, hey, you know, it's a giant scandal and it's in hundreds of newspapers.
jordan holmes
Yeah, white papers.
dan friesen
I can't find any.
jordan holmes
None.
dan friesen
None.
jordan holmes
Whenever Alex asks, what is the science behind this?
I feel like he should be asking, like, what is science?
dan friesen
He's asking, I mean, it goes back to what we talk about a lot.
It's like, it's a bad faith question.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because he doesn't want you to answer with science.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
He's not going to understand it, even if you do.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So he's just asking as a trap.
Any question he's asking is a trap.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Very, very uncomfortable.
So, I don't know, man.
What are you scribbling down in that notebook?
jordan holmes
So far, we have a very...
Right now, the Rothschild sounds so reasonable and like...
Okay, I'm talking to a child.
So I'm going to do my best job to explain to a child what climate science is.
He is coming to this with nothing but the best intentions.
dan friesen
And I think he can tell that Alex is an asshole.
And I think he can tell, like, don't get baited.
This guy is a dick.
Let's just keep moving.
jordan holmes
And this is pre-video chat.
There's no Skype going on.
I don't think so.
I'm not saying it's pre-video chat, period.
I'm saying that they're not on Skype together.
dan friesen
I believe so, yes.
I think it's just a phone call.
jordan holmes
This is all audio.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Because if Rothschild could see Alex, he would be like...
Oh, no, no, no, this guy's clearly an asshole.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex goes on, he's talking about how this is a massive scandal, and again, I can't find any evidence of that.
And David rebuts in a reasonable way, and then Alex says something that is unforgivable.
david rothschild
This type of argument about whether global warming exists or not, it's just a waste of time.
I mean, the fact of the matter is, we've got one planet.
We're not doing, you know, all our systems are in degradation.
We can argue about who's causing what, but there's no denying that our systems are A-shifting.
I mean, look at your country right now.
You've got floods in Texas.
You've got 126 degrees in Arizona.
You've got fires.
You've got systems in England.
We've had six of our annual rainfall in 24 hours.
alex jones
Well, there's always, you know, hold on.
I've read quite a few history books.
You know, even back at the time of Waterloo, when your family was so active, we...
jordan holmes
Already accusatory.
Already into...
You're the reason that...
dan friesen
Your family screwed over the French and European markets.
Your Nathan Rothschild ancestor did all this stuff.
Now, here's why it's interesting that this is where Alex Jones' brain goes.
Because this myth about Nathan Rothschild having someone...
Who was at the Battle of Waterloo and then came and told him this information ahead of time.
All of this stuff that's not true historically.
Alex is bringing this up in the context of there being heavy weather patterns and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Oh, there's always been weather, Dan.
dan friesen
Right, even back to the time of Waterloo.
jordan holmes
Even back then, whenever you were causing all of the world's problems.
dan friesen
But do you know why the weather piece of it triggers in his mind?
jordan holmes
Because he believes that the globalists have had weather weapons since the 1700s?
dan friesen
No.
Because the narrative is that the messenger that came to give Nathan Rothschild the information that Napoleon had been defeated...
jordan holmes
Right.
He ran, what, 22...
dan friesen
No.
He had to bribe a fisherman to take him through a very serious storm.
It was a massive, massive storm.
jordan holmes
Wait, so that's what he's talking about?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
He's talking about how climate change isn't real because one of the Rothschild's messengers...
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
He's saying that there has always been all this extreme weather and stuff like that, then makes reference to the Waterloo situation.
Now, here's why this is important.
There is weather records from back then.
There wasn't a storm that day.
There wasn't a relevant storm.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
The only reference for this is a periodical, not a periodical, a pamphlet that went around.
jordan holmes
Written by Larry Nichols.
dan friesen
It was written by a guy named, with the gnome to plume, Satan.
And it alleged these things.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Right?
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
And it was the basis of Nazi propaganda.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
It was the basis of the...
Love it.
Yeah, the Goebbels film, the Rothschild share in Waterloo.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Perfect.
dan friesen
Alex is legitimately throwing Nazi propaganda back in the face of his guest, who is being...
Very polite.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
That, to me, is unacceptable on so many levels.
So, Alex's reference to the Waterloo thing is clearly about the storm that Nathan Rothschild or this messenger had to go through, depending on which version of the story you end up, unfortunately, having to hear.
And it's just not true.
There wasn't a storm, and this is all anti-Semitic propaganda.
jordan holmes
If I remember correctly, though, in that story, the messenger fell from the boat.
And then was eaten by a whale, correct?
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
And then later on, the Lord allowed him to escape.
And so that's why we have climate change.
dan friesen
More or less, yeah.
Bitterness and anger of the gods.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You didn't pray hard enough in that whale, baby.
jordan holmes
You didn't pray hard enough in that whale.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That is the greatest sentence anybody's ever said.
dan friesen
So, you ready to get to this next clip?
david rothschild
Sure.
dan friesen
All right.
Here's more of Alex being a dick.
alex jones
You know, even back at the time of Waterloo, when your family was so active, we've got all sorts of fires and storms and floods and things going on.
I mean, witch doctors 5,000 years ago would point at an eclipse or point at a wildfire or point at a snowstorm and say, you better bring better offerings to my tent or I'll make the ooga boogas get you.
I mean, really, isn't this just an organizing system to bring in global taxation and regulation?
I mean, what is your solution to the global warming?
Hold on.
Is it not the global carbon tax, as Al Gore has called for?
david rothschild
There's many things.
I think what you have to realize is that being environmentally sensitive and making money aren't mutually exclusive.
There's a lot of money to be made in addressing this issue.
There's been a lot of waste in our systems.
We've built all our systems on a theory of infinite resources.
We know for a fact we have finite resources.
We know that we're consuming more than we're putting back.
We know that our systems won't be able to support us if we continue to consume at this level.
You know, and you can say that, you know, things are cyclical, you know, and that we've seen these weather systems before.
But, you know, the fact of the matter is that our CO2 levels today are higher than any other time in the last 650,000 years.
Our civilization is being built around a system of stable weather systems and weather patterns.
Our weather patterns are changing as fast as we...
alex jones
What caused Pompeii or what caused, you know, famous hurricanes...
david rothschild
Bombay was a natural disaster, which was, of course it was.
What do you think caused that?
alex jones
But see, that's my point.
What caused the divine wind, the kamikaze that blew away the Chinese fleet that was coming into Japan?
dan friesen
So we have a foundational issue here, and I think that what it is is Alex's mistaking weather and climate.
jordan holmes
Oh, I don't think I know anybody who has ever done that before.
dan friesen
Right.
But, I mean, even, like, I guess Pompeii wasn't necessarily weather.
It did have weatherological effects, certainly, but...
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
unidentified
I mean, how is that a rebuttal to what he was saying at all?
You know what?
jordan holmes
That's actually a really good question for Alex to have asked.
And the answer to that is actually another explanation of how climate change works.
Because so much was put into the atmosphere, it adjusted not the weather, But the climate.
Temporarily.
Exactly.
dan friesen
Because that's part of a natural cycle.
jordan holmes
If you put so much fucking debris and fucking shit up in the atmosphere, everything was much, much colder immediately following...
dan friesen
There was a year without a summer.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is climate.
That is not weather.
Whenever you talk about...
Filling the sky with all of this bullshit, you're going to change the entire weather system, not the weather.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
That's why climate change is the larger issue.
The volcano is a volcano.
That shit happens.
The climate is what the volcano put into the atmosphere.
And if you put all of that shit in the atmosphere consistently...
Over and over and over again, then you're going to wind up changing the entire climate.
dan friesen
And if you introduce excesses into the equation that already...
I mean, the world balances.
Nature balances on its own.
And when you introduce all the coal burning, all the fossil fuels, you end up offsetting that equation.
Anyway, I'd like to interrupt this for one moment to give a shout-out to Disrupted Momentum.
Thanks for joining us in the chat room.
jordan holmes
Hello!
dan friesen
Anyway, we appreciate you.
jordan holmes
But the situation that I...
Here's the first thing that I disagree with.
dan friesen
Just the first?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Well, with...
No, with Rothschild in the way that he is describing it.
dan friesen
I don't think he's perfect as an ambassador, but he does a good enough job.
jordan holmes
Well, the simple thing that he is missing is the argument that a lot of people say is that we only have one planet, so we need to take care of the planet.
And it's like, nah, dude.
Planet's going to be fine.
Planet is going to be fine way longer than we are here.
We're the ones that we need to take care of.
We're the ones who are going to die because of climate change.
dan friesen
My rebuttal to that is I would say that...
In the same way that Alex brings up the 67% in this poll don't believe in man-made climate change, you need a way to humanize it and make it relatable.
The idea of these impending disasters and stuff like that, people can easily dismiss that sort of stuff as sensationalism and I don't see the proof of it happening and all that stuff.
Whereas if you make it very relatable and you make it like, this is our home, we need to take care of our home, otherwise there's going to be a leak in the roof or whatever.
jordan holmes
Which is in the Bible.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Stewards of the land, so to speak.
dan friesen
Maybe it's not the most, like, tough talk that people need, but it is possibly what people could listen to or could hear.
jordan holmes
Right.
I feel like an appeal to Gaia, so to speak, is not necessarily the best way.
Like, if you're...
Well, how about this?
dan friesen
Why not, though?
jordan holmes
How about this?
What is doing a better job of convincing people in regards to the climate change debate?
The guys who are fucking fear mongering about how the climate change people are going to turn this into a global carbon tax or the people who are reasonably saying we need to take care of the earth.
Maybe the issue is climate scientists...
And this is, I think, one of the big failings.
dan friesen
I don't want scientists to become the other side, if that's what you're proposing.
jordan holmes
Well, frankly...
dan friesen
You can do that.
You can be the other side.
jordan holmes
If it saves all of our fucking lives, maybe they should.
dan friesen
You can lead a movement to be the other side, and I think there is that voice in the public sphere.
I think there are.
And Alex, shockingly, never talks about that.
There's all kinds of climate terrorists and stuff like that.
There's eco-terrorists all over the place who, like, you know...
Whether it's burning down a building or just tagging something, you know, there's some spray paint going on.
There are those people who are out there who are, you know, that's active.
Right.
Absolutely.
And it's a smart idea.
Isn't it weird that Alex never talks about that?
jordan holmes
What I'm saying is that we should all be bombing the Keystone Pipeline.
That's a good thing to say, right?
dan friesen
Keystone Pipeline's going to destruct on its own.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's a good point.
Well, at least it's going to take down the rest of us with it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's clearly leaking.
jordan holmes
Oh, not the rest of us.
I should be saying more Native American land, so who cares?
dan friesen
I mean, just go back to the wildlife preserve standoff.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
The whole thing of like, it didn't do any damage.
jordan holmes
That's Patriots.
That's Patriots.
unidentified
It didn't do any damage.
jordan holmes
That's fine.
dan friesen
No, just Native American lands and things that were sacred.
You're shitting next to a sacred piece of land.
unidentified
Right.
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
That's fine.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Great work, guys.
dan friesen
Let's get to this next clip.
jordan holmes
See, this is me being reasonable.
dan friesen
Yikes.
So here's the thing.
I have a very difficult time cutting this into clips because the two of them have exchanged a bit of a back and forth.
And it's tough to find places to cut.
So some of these clips are going to be a little bit lengthier than usual.
No, not choppy, just a little longer than usual.
jordan holmes
You went the other direction.
dan friesen
Yeah, I want to present this in its proper context.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So here's the next clip where David Rockefeller...
Rockefeller.
Too many David R's.
David Rothschild asks, Alex, why are you opposed to the idea of climate change?
What's your issue?
And Alex goes off on a rant that doesn't really answer the question.
david rothschild
Let me ask you a question, sir.
What is the downside?
Why don't you want to believe climate change exists?
alex jones
No, number one.
What's the downside?
I'd like to tell you.
Number one, I read Professor Curl Quigley.
I've read United Nations documents.
I've researched the Council on Foreign Relations.
I've researched the different think tanks and groups that your family funds.
Also the things that Prince Bernhardt was pushing before he died.
Now, of course, Prince Philip, head of the World Life Fund, where they say they want to exterminate 80% of us, where they want to bring in neo-feudalism and serfdom as a model to manage the planet and that human beings are a...
dan friesen
Real quick, just because I'm not going to talk about this at all, this will all be in the endgame stuff.
All of the stuff he's lying about right here, this will all be in the endgame stuff.
jordan holmes
By the way, one of the things that I immediately thought of whenever he said they're going to bring about neo-feudalism, if you recall, the guy that we talked about, the Russian guy who wrote for, what's his face again?
dan friesen
Dugan?
jordan holmes
Yeah, who wrote for Dugan's propaganda website.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Boy, did he write about neo-feudalism.
dan friesen
Seems like it.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what he was talking about.
alex jones
Malthus, back in the 1790s, said, oh, wonderful, we're going to outstrip our resources and half the population will starve to death by 1950.
You know, this type of baloney, and it's always turned out to be a fraud.
You try to organize society by claiming there's a crisis and that you're going to be the organizers, then you invite all the business people in saying this is the new model.
dan friesen
Real quick, I want to talk about that for a second.
Alex and his ilk, the patriot folk, have created a...
Boogeyman in the form of globalists that, like, oh, we all need to take care of this, and now they have got a fucking president.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, but they've never turned out to be a fraud.
alex jones
Right.
unidentified
Jump on the big bandwagon now, and you're not dealing with cross-species chimera genetic engineering, which can destroy your house.
alex jones
I know you don't care about the population, but you better care about your own house of Rothschild.
And so what you do is you ignore all the real environmental crises, and then you bring in world government and world taxation so you guys can even rule us with an even greater hand.
And I'm sick of it.
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
That is...
Way too soon to say that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is early in the interview, correct?
dan friesen
I'm going to give you a spoiler alert that I probably shouldn't give you.
The interview goes like 40 minutes.
jordan holmes
How is that possible?
dan friesen
And at the end of it, David Rothschild says, this was supposed to be 10 minutes.
So at this point, I think, Alex, what he's saying...
jordan holmes
Chimeras are going to be the death of the Rothschild house?
dan friesen
Well, there's that.
But also, he thinks that David Rothschild is going to hang up.
Because he thinks it's a 10-minute interview, and so he's got to get his licks in before it goes off.
Because he can't have a Rothschild on his show and not attack him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, of course not.
dan friesen
Even though this guy's being completely polite and just saying, this is the reason why we believe in climate change.
I have gone across the polls, and I have experienced stuff, and it opened my eyes.
If you look at the science, if you really look at it, there's...
And he goes on to explain later about the idea of greenhouse gases and all that stuff that the rudimentary version of stuff Alex should understand.
It's not the sun cycle.
That's a tiny piece of it.
jordan holmes
Nah, it's solar flares, Dan.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's not.
jordan holmes
It's always funny to me whenever you get this kind of conversation.
is like, okay, this guy has traveled around the world, spoken to many different people from many different science specialties, who has spoken to geologists, who has spoken to climatologists, who has spoken to oceanologists, like all of this stuff, so many Alex Jones...
Has stayed in Austin and maybe read a book.
So Alex Jones is an expert.
dan friesen
He's traveled a little bit.
And you forget, my dude, he has talked to Lord Moncton.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Who is the man who got a cease and desist letter from the House of Lords.
jordan holmes
I mean more specifically in the way that these conversations go.
You know, like Alex is a far more world-traveled version of the guy in a small town saying that it's essentially globalists trying to...
Tax us into slavery.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Who has never gone anywhere.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
So now we get into a section of the show that I would call two men yelling at each other.
jordan holmes
That sounds fun.
dan friesen
I mean, it's tough for it not to be after him yelling, I'm not your slave, Rothschild.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it feels like he should have hung up there, right?
dan friesen
I'll be honest.
Yeah, he should have, maybe.
jordan holmes
That would have been a good time.
That would have been a good out.
dan friesen
That might have been when I hung up.
But at the same time, if you hang up at that point, you kind of give Alex fodder.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because that's exactly the way Alex wanted it to go, and it doesn't go that way.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
I think I would have hung up, but before I hung up, I would have been like, Yes, you are, Alex!
And then hung up.
That would have been great.
That would have been fantastic.
dan friesen
Instead, David Rothschild is way too polite and sticks around.
jordan holmes
Oh, you poor British bastard.
dan friesen
But also, you can hear it if you listen closely.
He's also kind of laughing.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
There is like...
And in the last clip before Alex ended up screaming, I'm not your slave, he's like, you're being...
You're in denial.
This is ludicrous.
So anyway, here's two dudes yelling at each other.
alex jones
I'm not your slave, Rothschild, and your scam's not gonna work.
david rothschild
Well, you know, sir, I've never seen someone get so defensive.
It's obviously, you know what they say, when you're in the wrong, you get all overheated, and I can see that with you now.
alex jones
No, you asked my question.
david rothschild
Debate any of my facts.
alex jones
Debate any of my facts.
david rothschild
If you carry on like that, sir, you're going to cause global warming yourself the way you're heating over there.
unidentified
Oh!
alex jones
I'm angry.
david rothschild
Yeah, the fact of the matter is you cannot deny that our species, our biodiversity loss is global.
We're losing rainforests at 100,000 acres a day.
Our weather patterns have changed.
The scientific community is unanimous.
I don't know whether you're sitting on...
alex jones
Number one, they're not unanimous.
david rothschild
Maybe your shares in the oil industry that you have in your back pocket there are helping to drive your radio station, and that's why you're a bit concerned about maybe your little taxation...
alex jones
No, it came out...
Wait a minute.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
Real quick, the two of them are going to yell at each other, or just talk over each other for a bit.
But just to address that, Alex Jones has talked a bunch about how his family owns oil wells.
Right.
And so there's that.
jordan holmes
Might have a little bit of a vested interest in it.
dan friesen
And also ExxonMobil has paid a bunch of money to the organization that Lord Monkton works for, that he is a policy advisor for or whatever.
So he has oil company money coming in supporting him.
Alex Jones is broadcast by...
The Genesis Communications Network, which is owned by Midas Resources, Ted Anderson.
And I believe that they also have an interest in oil wells.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
I'm not 100% sure on that.
jordan holmes
It's a great way to diversify your stock portfolio.
dan friesen
I've found some documents that indicate that Midas Resources owns some oil wells.
I need more documentation on that.
I just found something that was a FOIA document.
And, you know, it's one of those things that, like...
Is there an outside possibility that's another Midas Resources?
Maybe.
But I don't know why.
I found another Midas Resources that's a mining company, but it's in Australia.
And I don't know why these FOIA documents would come up with them for U.S. I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, they may have U.S. interests.
It's possible.
If Alex is saying, debate my facts, how do you debate facts with somebody who's like, chimeras are going to take you down, David Rothschild.
dan friesen
I care about the environment.
And how I care about it is warning you about chimeras.
And also, I'm going to use Nazi propaganda to slur your family and then claim that all of this is just about your family trying to create social control in order to create a neo-feudalism.
jordan holmes
But Nazis got a Nazi, man.
dan friesen
And, like I said, we'll go over in great detail those things in the Endgame documentary, the stuff about the elimination of 80% of the population.
That is complete horse shit.
And it's just Alex Jones doesn't know how to read.
jordan holmes
One thing that we will talk about in Endgame?
dan friesen
I could debate any of his facts.
jordan holmes
One thing that we will talk about in Endgame?
I will say, maybe it's not a bad idea to eliminate 80% of the population.
dan friesen
You will probably posit that, and I will say a little hasty.
alex jones
Have you got children?
All right, just hold on a second, Lord Rothschild.
Let me just say something here.
david rothschild
Yes, I do.
alex jones
Yes, I do.
I'm not a playboy adventure.
david rothschild
What kind of planet do you think you're going to pass on to them?
alex jones
Well, let me answer your question, because you keep putting these questions out.
I'm going to answer them right now.
You bet I'm angry, because I have...
unidentified
You didn't answer the last one, though.
david rothschild
You didn't answer the last one.
alex jones
Let me finish.
You didn't answer...
I'm going to answer the question.
You didn't answer my question.
You're using a lawyer tactic of asking a question and not letting me answer it, implying that I didn't answer it.
You didn't answer my questions about your family and...
under the guise of all these social Darwinism programs.
Are you denying it?
david rothschild
Of course I'm denying it.
alex jones
You're saying Prince Philip.
david rothschild
I've got nothing to do with Prince Philip.
Let me tell you something.
alex jones
I've been a lot of places.
I don't have an education.
I haven't traveled.
I don't know anything.
david rothschild
I'm not saying that at all.
I'm just asking you.
alex jones
No, that's the implication.
Yes, I've been up to the Arctic Circle.
Let me finish.
I haven't been across the Arctic Circle, but I've been up to it.
Now, let me just ask you a question.
david rothschild
So you're telling me that the Inuit communities...
alex jones
No, you ask me a question.
Let me answer, Rothschild.
david rothschild
Okay, you answer that, sir.
unidentified
Woof.
dan friesen
There's a lot of that.
A lot of that going on.
I asked a question, can I finish?
david rothschild
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Can I finish?
This is Perot all over again.
dan friesen
It is.
There's this great thing that's happening where Rothschild asked, have you ever left Texas?
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And that might be a little bit...
jordan holmes
That's definitely condescending.
dan friesen
It's a tiny bit, but at the same time, the way Alex takes it is really projecting his own insecurities about, I haven't really done...
Enough research into this.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And so that carries on, and it's great, because at the end, David Rothschild is like, you're projecting so much.
It's just like...
jordan holmes
Call him out!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, after this...
jordan holmes
At least you got that one in there, David, before you got eaten by chimeras.
dan friesen
Yeah.
We miss him.
Rest in peace, David Rothschild.
He made that boat out of recycled plastic and then got eaten by a chimera out on the sea.
jordan holmes
Well, the interesting thing about chimeras is when you get eaten by a chimera, you become part of the chimera.
So David Rothschild is not dead.
He is just part of a new half-Panther, half-Rothschild, half...
What else you got?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Fish people?
dan friesen
Bee.
jordan holmes
You want to throw a bee?
dan friesen
Yeah, let them fly.
Anyway, in this next clip, Alex Jones is just getting done with his stupid rant about how all these climate change people all want you to feel so sad for the polar bears because they can't swim and they use this propaganda.
Polar bears can swim!
jordan holmes
Well, that solves it.
dan friesen
And I think they can.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they can swim.
dan friesen
I think almost every mammal can swim.
Especially ones that are around water.
The issue is more...
jordan holmes
They can't eat.
dan friesen
Well, and the issue is also more that as ice flows melt and what have you, they have less access to where they get their food from.
Of course.
jordan holmes
Turns out if you destroy a habitat, usually that is more about destroying the food.
dan friesen
It's disruptive.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex gets off on a rant about that, and I just cut it out because it's stupid.
Because I can't have the whole 40-minute interview in here.
Please don't.
This is right after that, after his polar bear riff.
unidentified
Go ahead.
alex jones
There's your answer.
david rothschild
What's your point?
I think you still haven't even...
alex jones
Yeah, my point is that you guys are setting up global taxation, as Al Gore has said.
It has nothing to do with the environment.
I am concerned about cross-species genetic engineering.
I am concerned about destroying old growth, forest.
I am worried about those type of things.
But you guys are gobbling up all the world's concern to just simply line your pockets and make kids read your book in schools and do all this.
It's a business, just like you said, Roth.
david rothschild
Do you think I make any money out of this?
alex jones
It's the same thing your great-great-great-grand, your money-changing ancestors did.
They're in Germany, Red Shield, and I'm calling you out, Red Shield.
We know it's a scam!
david rothschild
Okay, well, listen, you know, the funny thing is, if you think it's a scam, I think, you know, then what I want to know is where are you going to live when this planet collapses?
alex jones
Okay, okay, we've got a break.
I'm challenging you to hold over three minutes and to come back, and I'll answer the question about where I'm going to live and what I think about my family.
Or are you afraid?
Are you going to hang up, Red Shield?
You going to stay with us, adventurer?
You going to take this adventure challenge with me?
We'll see if you're there on the other side.
I'm Alex Jones.
We got a red shield on the line.
unidentified
Oof.
jordan holmes
What's a red shield?
dan friesen
I think it's the common translation of Rothschild.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
I believe.
I'm not entirely sure.
But it's something that flies around in conspiracy communities.
I don't know if it's actually the translation, but I can tell you this.
When you're getting worked up and yelling at somebody, don't fucking say you're money-changing ancestors.
That's fucking...
That's worse than a hard Jew.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's pretty bad.
dan friesen
That's really bad.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That, to me, is like, oh boy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I can't believe that they go to commercial and Rothschild's still there.
alex jones
I don't know.
dan friesen
After that?
jordan holmes
Well, he has to do the Merchant of Venice piece, I assume.
Do we not bleed?
What is wrong with you?
dan friesen
I am a globalist.
Do I not bleed if you prick me?
It's insane.
I wish I had this kind of time on my hands.
I was supposed to do 10 minutes with Alex Jones.
He started screaming at me.
A bunch of anti-Semitic shit came out of his mouth.
I was like, I got time to kill.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, hey.
He is an eco-adventurer, apparently.
dan friesen
And Alex said, this is an adventure.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Are you enjoying me, Red Shield?
jordan holmes
And the big thing that Alex is doing there is appealing to, like, you're weak.
Like, if you don't stay on the line, that's because you're weak, and I'm just gonna dunk on you for being weak.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Because you're too afraid of me.
You're not a man to continue speaking to me.
dan friesen
It's just out-and-out antagonism.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
Which, it doesn't work with David Rothschild, though, because he's not taking the bait.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And, like, yelling at him or being like, you're stupid, or anything like that.
But for some reason...
jordan holmes
Again, he's patiently trying to explain to a child what is going on.
dan friesen
But for some reason, he still doesn't hang up.
I don't understand it.
So they go to commercial, and then they come back, and Alex comes back from the break really petty, but then he gets conciliatory for unknown reasons.
Like, I have to imagine, over the break, he was like, look, I'm sorry, this is a show.
jordan holmes
Well, of course.
dan friesen
This is a show, and look, I know I got a little hot there, and you know, look, please just stick around.
My listeners will love this.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I think it's probably more like Alex had no idea he was going to stick around.
This is not going the way he wanted it to.
dan friesen
Do you think for a second he didn't talk to him during the commercial break?
It was just three minutes of silence?
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no.
I don't know.
I assume that they spoke during the commercial break.
unidentified
I have to assume that.
jordan holmes
My point being, Alex did not expect this interview to go this long.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Alex has been trying to get him to hang up.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
This entire time has been Alex trying to be like, you are weak.
Look at how much of a man I am.
You're going to run away from me.
And with Rothschild doesn't...
dan friesen
I'm willing to use Nazi propaganda in your face.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm still here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and then whenever he stays there, Alex is like, I got nowhere to go and I can't keep this level of energy up, so...
Let's talk now.
I think I'm cool with that, I suppose.
dan friesen
Yeah, that might be a pretty good assumption.
Here's him coming back from break.
unidentified
Because there's a war on for your mind.
jordan holmes
Well, I'm back from break and I hate the Jews.
alex jones
One of the most powerful...
Well, we've got the son of one of the most powerful Rothschilds in modern times, David Mayer de Rothschild.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
He is a British adventurer and environmentalist whose book is the official book of the global ad campaign for global taxation and regulatory systems.
jordan holmes
It's the official one?
alex jones
And he, of course, your schoolchildren out there will probably be reading it under the...
Of course, they don't know how to read.
That's all part of the larger plan, but there's lots of pictures for them.
David Rothschild, you've got the floor.
I've really been running over you.
Go ahead.
No, that's okay.
jordan holmes
This is every British joke about how polite British people are.
Like, this is every single one.
dan friesen
Even there, he's like, well, that's okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
All right.
You're going to act like a child, so I'm too polite to say you're stupid.
dan friesen
I guess that's where we're going to be.
So anyway, here's where that goes.
jordan holmes
Why would you write a book if your plan is to keep people from learning how to read?
dan friesen
It's very counterintuitive.
jordan holmes
That doesn't make sense.
Alex, you've got to think about that one just for a little bit.
dan friesen
We'll get back to his book in a little bit.
But here's where it goes from there, and Alex just spouts a bunch of dumb talking points.
And David tries.
david rothschild
No, that's okay.
I think when you say that it's all about tax, I think you have to look at all the other things which we're talking about.
The recycling industry.
And the fact that the opportunities now is a $50 billion industry.
And there's an opportunity there to create jobs.
There's an opportunity to be environmentally friendly.
There's an opportunity to have a win-win situation.
But businesses continue to thrive.
The old excuse of saying that to be environmentally friendly means that you have to cut back on opportunity is the kind of thing that your radio station would promote.
I mean, the fact of the matter is that we're sitting here now, and, you know, I'm sorry if your oil shares, you know, that you have in your back pocket are funding this radio station in my phone call and that you feel that you need to protect that.
But the fact is we need to stop.
dan friesen
He's hitting that a little bit hard, but at the same time, why wouldn't you?
That's the reason so many people get into the anti-climate change game.
It's all the oil companies paying them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's why you fund all of this.
Opposition bullshit is because like, oh, I got a lot to lose.
As Rothschild is saying, before where we are now, even then, clean energy wasn't growing anywhere near as fast as it is right now.
And right now, it's exploding.
Of course, the best thing economically is to invest in clean energy.
We're not doing that.
Instead, Trump has gone so far backwards, it is offensive.
dan friesen
Beautiful.
Clean coal.
jordan holmes
Three words, baby.
It's amazing how we can't just continue to talk about how Trump is stealing jobs from people.
Like, if you want to talk about job creation, fucking subsidize clean energy.
They're the ones who are creating all of these fucking jobs.
If that's going to be your fucking talking point, it's all about creating jobs or whatever it is.
dan friesen
You could create so many more.
jordan holmes
If you subsidize clean energy, if you took half of the subsidies that you give to oil and coal and all that bullshit and gave it to clean energy, it would go bananas.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Such bullshit.
dan friesen
Let's go back to the clip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
david rothschild
Padding out your bottom line by incentivizing the fossil fuel subsidiaries and start putting more incentives into renewable energy research because fossil fuels are going to run out.
And I just want to know, if you don't believe in any of this, where are you going to be when it all kicks off?
Have you got a bunker down there in Texas?
alex jones
Sure, actually I do.
But let me be clear on this.
I am for renewable energy.
I am for new systems.
It is the big oil companies that have stopped the 150 mile per gallon carburetor.
We know that that's going on, and we know that even Greg Palas of the BBC broke the news with the documents that Dutch Royal Schell, who's big...
david rothschild
You're not denying, you're not denying that...
Are you denying that climate change exists?
alex jones
But, C, do you want me to say this?
david rothschild
No, I'm just...
alex jones
I mean, but I'm trying to answer your question.
I'm trying to answer your question here.
david rothschild
You're not answering me.
I've answered this before.
alex jones
No, what I'm telling you is...
david rothschild
No, no, answer my question, sir.
Are you denying that climate change exists?
alex jones
The UN's own report says that about 6%...
I can't answer that.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
alex jones
You want to keep it very simple because you think my audience is dumbed down.
david rothschild
No, I think you're dumbed down.
I'm saying...
alex jones
Man-made climate change is not happening.
Man-made climate change is not happening.
It is not a large contributor to the overall solar cycle.
david rothschild
...climatic system that is dictated by the solar activity.
How much solar energy is allowed...
alex jones
It's the driver.
david rothschild
...and where the solar energy lands on our planet.
What's happening is, by pumping out greenhouse gases, nitrous oxides, methane, CO2, by our consumption, we are thickening the atmosphere around our planet, which is trapping not only that additional solar energy that you're talking about, but also we're trapping in...
alex jones
Well, let's talk about carbon dioxide.
Let me just ask you a question.
Carbon dioxide, Al Gore's now been debunked by major scientists, by Channel 4. Let me just finish.
Let me just finish.
He says that CO2 goes up, then heat goes up.
It's actually trailing between 200 and 600 years after.
Carbon dioxide is what plants breathe.
They then put out more oxygen.
It's up on PrisonPlanet.com.
Right now we have links to...
Major studies just came out showing that they also indicate that during the last period between the ice ages, 116 to 130,000 years ago, when temperatures were an average of 5 Celsius to 9 Fahrenheit now, the glaciers on Greenland did not completely melt away, reports Reuters.
david rothschild
But the point is, right, the science of the community is coming out.
We know that carbon dioxide is directly relatable to the temperature, to the atmosphere on our planet.
Absolutely.
We know that for a fact.
No, we don't.
Of course we do.
That's why we live in this planet.
Our planet is livable in, because we have a certain amount of CO2, 285 parts per million, which is what it was.
alex jones
CO2 boost actually then leads to cooling.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So that's actually a really interesting claim that burning fossil fuels and increasing CO2...
jordan holmes
Oh, leads to cooling.
Hey, right now, we're in a little ice age.
That's just true.
dan friesen
You know, this is a claim that keeps coming up over and over again.
Like, recently, it was Stephen Crowder on Louder with Crowder.
jordan holmes
That can't be a name.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is.
He's a horrible...
jordan holmes
That can't be a real name.
dan friesen
He's a horrible...
jordan holmes
Who approved that?
dan friesen
So, he recently, on his website, someone wrote about that.
About how...
jordan holmes
CO2 causes cooling.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Everybody knows that.
dan friesen
And that NASA had shown that.
Now it's citing similar stuff.
Well, it turns out that they got their information from an article in a tabloid called the UK Express.
Yeah.
And it was a satirical article written by a guy who also wrote such articles as, Moon is hollow Death Star like alien base.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
97% of scientists actually agree with that.
dan friesen
Are aliens draining our solar energy?
Images of monster UFOs circling sun emerge.
jordan holmes
All right, that's a good one.
dan friesen
So that's where these claims were sourced to, and they claimed it was NASA with Crowder in 2017.
jordan holmes
Once again, the onion is reality.
dan friesen
Well, but the issue is that there's a pretty decent chance...
that Alex got his sourcing in a similar way.
Now granted, this piece from the Express didn't exist until 2015, so he couldn't have gotten it from this piece, Right.
jordan holmes
Or it just came from a lie.
dan friesen
Or just misreading an actual report.
That's entirely possible.
Because there are some reports that have come out that he could misread.
But it would be way too difficult to try and figure out exactly what he's citing.
Right.
unidentified
It's just interesting that that specific claim, the CO2 burning causes cooling.
dan friesen
Is bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Made up by a bullshit artist.
dan friesen
And keeps coming up.
But be that as it may.
jordan holmes
No, I've heard that shit so many times.
It's immensely frustrating.
Because, and this is another bullshit thing about it, is Alex just says no to facts.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Just no.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Just, look, you've got your science, I've got my science.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter.
My science is just as good as your science.
Now, admittedly, my science is made up.
dan friesen
Moncton.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
But it's still science.
dan friesen
He's a lord.
jordan holmes
What is science is what Alex is always asking.
No, no, no.
Seriously.
What is it?
What is it?
Is it magic?
What are we doing?
Are you studying things or are you just saying things?
dan friesen
You know what's the problem is that the scientific process requires repeatability and I don't think Alex could ever imagine doing something.
jordan holmes
God, no.
dan friesen
Doing something difficult twice.
jordan holmes
No, I've tried to explain peer review to my parents, and that's just never going to happen.
dan friesen
You shouldn't do that.
jordan holmes
It's just never going to happen.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, we learn that peak oil is a scam created by British Petroleum.
jordan holmes
Obvious.
dan friesen
And also, we still struggle with why the fuck hasn't David Rothschild hung up the phone.
unidentified
Yeah.
david rothschild
It was 285 parts per million pre-industrial levels.
unidentified
It peaked in 1955.
alex jones
It's been dropping.
david rothschild
It hasn't been dropping.
You're in denial, sir.
You really are.
I don't know where you're reading.
alex jones
You just said all the scientists unanimously agree.
That's the biggest hoax I ever heard.
david rothschild
Do you find your facts on thisfactisajoke.com?
alex jones
Let me ask you a question.
david rothschild
BP's website?
alex jones
No, we've had tons.
BP is behind the peak oil scam.
BP is behind the peak oil scam.
unidentified
We have the documents.
dan friesen
Got the documents.
david rothschild
They got them.
385 parts per minute.
No scientist in the world will deny that.
And if you find that, and you find a scientist who's denying that right now, 385 parts per million of CO2, then you email it to me.
I'll have a look, and I'll come back on your show, and I'll tell readers about it.
alex jones
No, we're not saying that CO2 levels aren't elevated.
jordan holmes
You just said it!
You literally just said that!
That is the thing you just said!
dan friesen
Well, that's because he doesn't know what he's arguing at this point.
jordan holmes
Right.
alex jones
What we're saying is CO2 elevated levels are good.
david rothschild
No, they're not good.
They're not good.
Who tells you that CO2...
CO2 is one of the reasons why a planet has a stable climate.
The reason when we start to increase...
alex jones
We've never had a stable climate.
That's another hoax.
Rob Shaw, we've got to break it.
Now, if you want to chicken out, you can.
We'll be right back.
jordan holmes
Oh, please chicken out.
Please.
dan friesen
Again.
jordan holmes
I am running out of things to say.
I've been yelling at you.
I'm trying to get you to chicken out.
That would be the best thing that could happen.
Please do this.
Don't stick around.
Please!
dan friesen
Alex is so pissed off that Cuck hasn't come around by this point.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
He would have loved that.
dan friesen
It would be a perfect opportunity for him.
jordan holmes
Cuck would have been all over the place.
dan friesen
Now, he doesn't chicken out.
David sticks around again.
jordan holmes
Inexplicable.
dan friesen
I will tell you that this does end pretty terribly.
jordan holmes
Of course!
There's no other way for this to go.
dan friesen
Because, Alex, I think you're totally right.
He has to escalate it and keep...
I can't not have the upper hand whenever this ends.
That's all that matters is when it ends the dominance position that we're in.
So they go to commercial and they come back.
You can make whatever arguments you want there about he should be more alarmist in terms of his rhetoric.
Rothschild, that is.
You can say that and that's fine.
There's an interesting conversation to have there.
I don't think it's wrong what he's doing.
But I will say that I think he says one thing totally wrong in this next clip, and it's very unfortunate.
He has the order of the planets wrong.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
It's just in passing, and it's not substantive.
jordan holmes
No, that's fine.
Everybody, you make a mistake.
dan friesen
That's fine.
jordan holmes
I think the thing that I didn't like about that clip was him saying, find me a scientist.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Because that is not an actionable argument against these idiots.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
There's always going to be a scientist.
There's always going to be a scientist.
dan friesen
Granted, Moncton isn't a scientist, but he's there.
jordan holmes
Right.
But if you say that, they're going to find one.
And then you're going to have to say, okay, well, here's their source.
This source is not peer-reviewed, or if it is peer-reviewed, it's been debunked.
dan friesen
Boring, you're a cuck.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
The moment that you engage on that level, you've lost.
dan friesen
Yeah, true.
But unfortunately, because David Rothschild gets the Order of the Planets wrong in passing...
jordan holmes
Oh, now he's going to go to town on that.
dan friesen
No, he doesn't.
But it's the only thing that Alex brings up whenever he discusses this interview.
He thinks that Mercury is farther...
He thinks that Mars is...
Closer to the sun than Earth.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
Anyway.
alex jones
Well, all the environmentalists I've talked to and conservationists, when they see Disney and when they see the Discovery Channel and Wall Street and the NFL getting behind global warming, man-made global warming, they say something's wrong.
And, of course, I should bring up to Mr. Rothschild that the polar ice caps of Mars are receding at several miles a year, much faster than ours, and that the moons of Saturn and Jupiter are melting.
In fact, several of their moons were ice and are now liquid seas.
dan friesen
They're not.
alex jones
Now, how are SUVs causing that, David Rothschild?
david rothschild
That's because those planets are closer to the sun, my friend.
alex jones
No, Jupiter and Saturn are not closer to the sun.
Neither is Mars.
david rothschild
Yes, sir.
I think you'll find, right, that the very simple matter and what I wanted to say, and this is my final point, and then I'll let you continue with...
dan friesen
So we'll get to his final point in a second.
But, like, they've found that there is some melting of shit on Mars.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
That's accurate.
Well, but here's why it matters.
Because Alex gets to use this point as being like, how is our SUV?
How is it affecting?
He uses that argument as like, oh, we're causing that?
We're causing stuff to melt on Mars.
And it's stupid because no one is disputing the idea that the sun causes heating.
You know, like that sort of thing.
jordan holmes
Right?
Look, if you told Alex that the sun causes heating, he probably would say, no, it doesn't.
dan friesen
No one disputes that.
jordan holmes
The sun has been cooling for the past 50 years.
Everybody knows that.
dan friesen
The sun's frozen.
jordan holmes
The standard yellow sun is frozen.
dan friesen
The issue is, I don't have the specific numbers in front of me, and I don't think I could explain all the science, even if I did.
It's pretty easy for climate scientists to figure out, oh, this is the portion of increase that's caused by the solar.
Here's the amount that's caused by CO2.
Here's what's caused by the increase in CO2.
Now, oh, there's been deforestation.
That actually bumps us down, weirdly.
Here is some ozone aspects of aerosolization that actually reflect light back into space that brings it down a little bit.
Cuck!
jordan holmes
Boring!
dan friesen
They're able to sort out all of those variables and figure out where the stuff is.
So this one here, this beginning one, This first one, the sun's part also affects other planets.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
How dare you?
dan friesen
The infinitesimal, minimal part...
That is the sun's part that it plays in our own climate change, as opposed to the other pieces that have much more drastic consequences that are caused by us, are being affected on other planets.
Also, Mars is an interesting planet in many ways.
It has no oceans and a very thin atmosphere, which means there's very little thermal inertia.
The climate is much more susceptible to change caused by external influences.
jordan holmes
That's the reason life exists here and not there.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And also, here's the other part.
jordan holmes
Among many other reasons.
dan friesen
David Rothschild is wrong in terms of the stacking of planets and what have you.
But orbits aren't perfect circles.
And so sometimes...
Planets are closer to the sun than others, and sometimes Mars is closer because it has an orbit such that just the strict distance between the sun and it is closer than we are to it.
jordan holmes
And the speed at which it orbits the sun also means that certain times are going to be much warmer as opposed to other times in the same way that the way that Earth orbits the sun.
The Earth is going to be hotter at certain times and colder at other times.
That's kind of how it works.
dan friesen
I had a mnemonic device to remember the order of the planet, so I wouldn't have a David Rothschild slip-up.
jordan holmes
Really?
What was that?
dan friesen
I am a little ashamed of this, but I came up with it in, like, fifth grade.
What was it?
My very erotic monkey Jack's sperm under nasty pillows.
It works!
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
I don't know if I even came up with that.
I think a friend might have, and it just stuck with me.
But it's hard to forget once you hear it.
jordan holmes
That'll get into your brain.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Back to the clip.
david rothschild
With your line that global doesn't exist.
I find it very sad that we're still in a day and age where there is a certain mentality or a certain sector that wants to deny that these things are happening.
And you say you don't believe that human beings are responsible for climate change.
That's fine.
And I respect your opinion.
I respect your views.
You shouldn't.
you have to realize if you look at the science, forget your taxation theory because actually it's not taxation.
What it's trying to do, the taxation bit is sitting there, it's one tiny fragment of saying that the polluters of our planet, the companies that are excessively polluting, the only way that they will respond and listen is if they're incentivized through a tax scheme to stop them from polluting.
And that tax scheme isn't in your mind, it's That's a very important piece of this that Alex never explains.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
The climate tax stuff, or carbon tax stuff that he's talking about, isn't you.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's got nothing to do with you.
It's polluting businesses.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So anyway.
david rothschild
The companies that are going out there and needlessly polluting our water systems, our natural systems.
I think it's sad, sir, that you can, you know, I appreciate and respect people's views on both sides of the argument.
That's what a debate is about.
And I appreciate your views in taking this debate to me.
But I would also say that it's sad because what you're doing here is giving people a false sense of hope.
Our planet is in a seriously bad way right now.
And if we continue to put out this rhetoric which says this doesn't exist, which you are doing and you are promoting, then all it's going to do is delay the situation that is going to cause more problems for your children, for my children, and the future of this planet.
We've got a serious problem.
We won't have this.
dan friesen
But Alex has a bunker.
david rothschild
But if the storms and the weather systems around us, whether they're cyclical or not, start to increase, which they are, then we're going to find ourselves in a more precarious position as humanity moves forward into the future.
alex jones
All right, I've only got one more question for you, David Mayer de Rothschild.
jordan holmes
What's your favorite Sunday?
dan friesen
That's what you think the question's going to be?
I don't think that's what the question's going to be.
I think it's going to be something along the lines of...
jordan holmes
You a pussy?
dan friesen
Asshole says what?
I feel like when I heard him say that, I'm like, man, playground time is coming.
It's going to be something so childish.
It doesn't end up being it, but we have 10 minutes of audio left in two clips, because I just couldn't cut them up.
And this is just, the first one is labeled, this is such a mess.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then the next one is disastrous end to the call.
So that's what we've got to look forward to.
jordan holmes
Your titling.
Fantastic.
dan friesen
It's never going to help me when I need to find a piece.
Six months from now, if I have to find one of these clips, what are they saying?
This is a mess.
Doesn't help.
jordan holmes
That's again, it comes back to the argument is always like...
Look at the science.
Look at the science.
If Alex was capable of looking at the science, it would already be done right now.
For the 67% of people at this time who don't think man-made climate change is a thing, if they were capable of looking at the science, it wouldn't be an issue.
It would already be done.
That's why they are...
You can't...
You have to ignore these people.
Like, there's no way that they can't be dragged kicking and screaming into surviving.
Because they're going...
Look, and again, that's...
My argument for being more alarmist is less about this is how we should convince people and more about my suspicion that because scientists have received such blowback...
Such of a fight all across the board.
They've been far more conservative in the way that they're calculating this.
dan friesen
Well, and people kick the shit out of them when they're wrong about anything.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So they're trying to be so sure and so conservative that they wind up...
Underselling the issue.
Like, if you say the climate is going to be destroyed in 2040, what you should be saying is that the refugee issue in 2025 is going to be so untenable that...
The world is going to eat itself alive.
The human population is not going to be destroyed by climate change.
It's going to be destroyed by the way that climate change affects our political system.
Like with Syria.
With all of these places.
When you start to see massive drought that lasts for a long time, you wind up seeing displacement.
When you wind up seeing displacement, you see people being fucking horrific to people who have to move.
Nobody likes refugees.
Apparently, everybody hates immigrants in this fucking country.
And so that's what is going to destroy us.
It's not going to be massive weather patterns.
It's going to be these small things that you don't...
Not small things, but these long-term things that you don't really recognize as being the main result of climate change.
dan friesen
Right, and the effect of the...
You're talking about droughts and stuff like that.
If you look at the history of, let's say, China, even in non-climate change affected times, they've had massive...
Massive droughts that have led to millions and millions of deaths.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
Now you see that pattern of weather shifting a little bit, it worsening.
You're going to see millions and millions and tens of millions dying.
That extending into parts of Russia, you know, those weather patterns.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
You're going to end up with...
Everyone's fucked.
jordan holmes
Well, the Guardian had a really interesting thing today about Finland.
And the way that they responded to the starvation that they experienced, what, like, 40 years ago, something along those lines?
And the way that they reacted to it is, like, the argument was, they're nationalists, much like, you know, nationalism is born out of destruction.
It's us against the world, that kind of thing.
They're nationalists, however, were run by college professors.
And all of a sudden, in that time frame, now Finland is in the top five in every possible category of successful nations.
dan friesen
Probably a coincidence.
jordan holmes
It's so obvious that if you take it from a scientific, mathematical basis, you will wind up building something that is so much more solid and so much more stable.
Or...
You could let Nazis run the government.
That's also a possibility.
unidentified
Nah.
dan friesen
Anyway, let's get to this next clip, because this is the mess.
And it's a little long.
So let's just get into it.
alex jones
Let's jump.
One more question for you, David Mayer de Rothschild.
And that is that you bring up the fact that...
That I'm in denial and I'm giving people a false sense of hope.
All the major, the European Space Agency, the NASA, all of the major real scientific organizations show massive solar system warming and it's the engine, the sun, that is driving that.
All the past studies and archaeological records show that life blooms and increases in a carbon dioxide oxygen river.
dan friesen
Sorry, right there the recording glitched.
He was saying that life needs lots of carbon dioxide, which is just sort of a muddying of the issue.
And then he gets into that we are now in a carbon-starved environment.
So that's what happened there in that clip.
alex jones
We've really been in somewhat of a dead cycle compared to, that's why they find coal at the North Pole and the South Pole from all the life, and that this is actually a prime grinder.
unidentified
From all the life!
alex jones
And we see areas of the world that were going through the desert process, the desertification, now greening unexpectedly, and that we should welcome climate change, and that it's not necessarily a bad thing.
I mean, you're saying we need to have a stable climate.
Sir, the planet's never had a stable climate.
david rothschild
The planet has, for the last 12,000 years, we've been very stable, comparatively, to the 4.5 billion years the planet's been around, period of climactic systems.
Our systems have been incredibly stable.
I agree with you.
We need carbon as a driver of life.
I'm not denying that.
You know, we have huge pockets of reserves of carbon, which for millions of years have taken millions of years to spend, and are stored under our Earth's crust.
We are releasing that.
And we're putting it up.
And let's not confuse two things here.
Let's not confuse biological carbon and carbon that's indicative of burning fossil fuels.
One is inert and stays in atmosphere, and one goes through the natural cycle.
So we're confusing two things.
When we're pumping out, not only pumping out excess carbon more than the natural system, but we're slashing burn agriculture, we're cutting down our carbon sinks to balance that.
Our oceans are incredibly precarious.
They absorb 40%.
alex jones
Let me just say this.
You're tying together plankton blooms and different differentials in with carbon dioxide itself.
It's not just one tax.
They're now tying the different environmental movements that, oh, we need a tax on more than one child, which really is a one-child policy.
So we already see this whole move to restrict carbon.
A tax on life, a tax on breathing.
david rothschild
I don't think it's a tax on life and a tax on breathing.
I think the fact of the matter is we have one planet.
We don't have a spare one.
We know that our systems, and, you know, whatever you want to call it, whether you want to call it a cyclical change, whether you want to call it global warming, you know, everyone has their own opinion.
And I think the fact of the matter is, for me personally, the time for debate is over.
This is no longer about does it exist, does it not exist.
alex jones
So we need to just stop thinking and just agree it's happening and go do whatever Al Gore says and just world government will save us.
Well, okay, in a perfect world, what should we do, Rothschild?
What should we do to save ourselves?
Tell me.
Save me.
dan friesen
Here's where it gets real ugly.
jordan holmes
I imagine this is where it's going to go down.
alex jones
Save me.
david rothschild
I'm saving you.
In the perfect world, you start to use common sense, which is obviously something that...
You know, from some of your comments, I'm afraid I don't see.
alex jones
Save me.
david rothschild
Oh, God.
alex jones
Do you save me, young ladies?
unidentified
Oh, Lord Rothschild, save me.
You're such a dashing adventurer, like Indiana Jones.
Oh, Lord Rothschild, take me, Lord Rothschild.
david rothschild
You sound like, you sound like, listen, Mr. Oil Baron sitting and stuff, but if you want to start making funny noises like that on the phone, that's fair enough, oil boy.
So get back onto your little rodeo ball, go out there and deny it all, protect your oil shares, and make sure that your kids, who you talk about, Don't have any planet to live on.
But anyway, I have to go, my friends.
unidentified
Hey, listen.
alex jones
I just want to tell you something.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
I just want to tell you something.
That is...
dan friesen
Ooh, that's a cliffhanger.
Look.
jordan holmes
All I'm saying is if you ever hear somebody say it like that...
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Not gonna end well.
dan friesen
Hey, I gotta tell you something.
jordan holmes
Hey.
dan friesen
You're a great guy.
jordan holmes
You know what I really think?
Ooh, stop right there.
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I love that he's been on the...
jordan holmes
Try that in a relationship.
dan friesen
He's been on the line for over half an hour and just been putting up with Alex's petty abuse and nonsense, circular thinking, all this diversion in arguments.
Whenever he's trying to make a point, Alex pivots to some other nonsense.
Yeah.
And finally, he's just like...
jordan holmes
I gotta go.
dan friesen
You don't have any common sense.
This is not worth it.
unidentified
Ooh, save me, Lord Rapture!
dan friesen
Alex has got it.
He's like, ooh, I've got him.
He's gonna hang up now.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And he says, I've gotta go.
jordan holmes
I gotta go, man.
dan friesen
Now let me tell you this.
jordan holmes
He doesn't go.
dan friesen
He doesn't go.
He's still on the line until they go out to commercial break, which is weird.
But he's like, I gotta go, and then here's what happens.
david rothschild
But anyway, I have to go with my friends.
alex jones
Hey, listen, I just want to tell you something.
Your family has caused a lot of pain in this world from what they pulled with Napoleon.
And we're tired of it.
And I'm not going to judge you by your family, but look at what you're doing.
dan friesen
I love that he's like, your family has caused a lot of problems going back to the time of Napoleon, which again is Waterloo.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
And I love that David Rothschild's response was...
Okay.
I mean, it's not like he hasn't heard all this stuff before.
Like, what are you going to do?
alex jones
Out here pushing this whole global tax hysteria, this global tax scam, and it's common sense.
david rothschild
I'm pushing common sense.
I'm pushing education.
I don't push one side of the argument or the other.
All I'm doing is providing information for people to make an informed decision.
alex jones
Well, you're providing bad information and slogans and can't and logos, and it's not going to work.
I just want you to know, when you're at family reunions, let them know that America and the people, free humanity, will prevail.
david rothschild
And if you send me an email address, we'll invite you along.
You can come and join us.
alex jones
Yeah, I bet.
david rothschild
We'd love to have you.
dan friesen
He's now invited Alex to a family reunion.
jordan holmes
Hey, listen.
We're not bad people.
dan friesen
If I were Alex, I would fucking take him up on that.
How hilarious would that be?
jordan holmes
You know what the problem there is, though?
Alex cannot do that.
Because if they were kind to him, it would be just like...
It's just like the Nation of Islam.
unidentified
You know what?
jordan holmes
If he went to the family reunion and somebody had a computer up with Infowars on it, he'd be like, you know, the Rothschilds aren't that bad.
dan friesen
They're pretty great.
jordan holmes
They got some good ideas.
dan friesen
They're really hip to the New World Order.
jordan holmes
You know what?
They got their shit down.
You know what?
I used to say they were globalists, but I'll tell you what.
They're actually...
Secret Infoward.
dan friesen
They're all secret patriots to Rothschilds.
That whole Waterloo thing was a false flag, but it was a false flag for the patriots.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
It's a double false flag.
dan friesen
He could retcon his entire worldview.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
Such nonsense.
jordan holmes
Well, it's like Trump is hooked up to the mob, which we all know he is, but...
He's actually been a secret patriot for 30 years.
You've got to vote for him.
dan friesen
I found a clip that I'm not playing here.
It's from a stray show.
I don't remember exactly when it was, but it's definitely during the presidential campaign.
And Alex has Daniel Estelin on, who's a guy who's a Bilderberg-type researcher.
He ends up popping up in Endgame, so we'll talk about him a little bit then.
But I don't know how I didn't catch this interview, but Daniel Estelin is saying that Hillary Clinton...
Is backed by the Rockefellers.
And Trump is backed by the Rothschilds.
And that the Rothschilds are actually on the good side of things.
And it's like, Alex is nodding and being like, yep.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Well, then maybe he did go to the family reunion.
dan friesen
He might have.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
Such nonsense.
There's no through line even of his stupidity.
Other than bigotry.
jordan holmes
Here's my movie pitch.
Coming to dinner, but...
Alex marries one of the Rothschilds.
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
I could see it.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So, anyway, I love this.
I think it's really interesting to point out, I think I saw this in the chat room, that David Rothschild is making them not hate the ultra-rich so much.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I think that it is important to remember that they are people still, and often people of good humor.
unidentified
Are they?
Yes.
dan friesen
And I think on a case-by-case basis, someone like David Rothschild could be using his wealth and his time and efforts in really good ways that you would support and probably have a really good sense of humor about himself and be well-adjusted and a pretty cool guy.
It seems like that's possible even in that...
Unattainable strata of being born into billions.
You know, it's not mutually exclusive.
It's just that it tends to be.
jordan holmes
It's the percentage.
dan friesen
The percentage is bad.
jordan holmes
Right.
Listen, find me a rich person and I'll look into it.
97% of rich people agree that we should kill rich people.
Is that what I'm saying?
I don't know.
dan friesen
I think that's what you're saying.
jordan holmes
I think that might be what I'm saying.
dan friesen
I think you're getting your statistics from Moncton.
unidentified
Right.
alex jones
Now, are those the estates that you guys took over in the French Revolution you engineered, or are those the estates in England?
david rothschild
Those are the hidden ones that we hide under the ground that no one knows about.
Nice.
Come on, man.
alex jones
You mean the one I snuck into in Northern California?
david rothschild
Yeah, the one that you've been...
You spend too long on the internet looking at conspiracy theories.
You know what I'd say?
You sound like someone who needs to get out of the studio...
alex jones
Oh, yes.
I've never left Texas.
david rothschild
And go outside.
And go outside and reconnect with nature.
See what you're mentioning.
alex jones
Well, Ross, let me just say this.
You also make these hayseed comments about how we're a bunch of bumpkins out here on our bulls.
david rothschild
I never said anything about that.
alex jones
The implication was clear.
unidentified
An elitist implication.
david rothschild
There's no elitist implication.
I'm a farmer.
I live off the land.
I farm my own.
I have my own cattle.
alex jones
You are a farmer.
And we are slaves on your plantation.
david rothschild
You know what?
I work for myself, and I don't have anyone who works for me.
So at that point, sir, I can say again...
alex jones
Oh, really?
What is your wealth?
You always talk about oil shares.
Your family in England, it turned out, Financial Times of London, owned Gazprom when they arrested one of the oligarchs.
It turned out he was just a front.
dan friesen
This, strictly speaking, isn't true.
alex jones
You guys are worth, in the aggregate...
Trillions of dollars, tens of trillions leverage, and you sit here and you just, because I live in Texas, say that I'm from the movie Dallas and I'm sitting on top of an oil patch.
david rothschild
Listen, these are all your insecurities that you're putting across here, sir.
I've never said anything.
alex jones
You've said repeatedly that I'm defending my oil stocks.
david rothschild
Well, I guess you probably are.
I don't know.
alex jones
Your family bankrolled the Rockefellers and Carnegie, and you guys own the Bank of England, and you issue the world fiat currency, and you're the guys that have got the third world nations on billion-dollar loans owing $40 billion at loan-sharking numbers.
dan friesen
So Alex, what he's talking about here is this belief that the Rothschilds run the World Bank.
david rothschild
Yeah.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
He's right into the five Jew bankers conspiracy level.
dan friesen
Totally, totally.
I found this really interesting breakdown of these claims that the Rothschilds...
Own the monetary fund and all that.
jordan holmes
Right, and they own more than the GDP of the United States.
dan friesen
Well, they keep, like, the people who make these claims keep referencing, like, Rothschild Bank of blank and stuff like that.
david rothschild
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Those banks don't exist.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So they keep referencing, like, these entities.
jordan holmes
That's what they want you to think.
dan friesen
Well, they aren't.
They aren't real.
So it's all of this stuff.
It does.
It does sincerely come back to the five Jewbanker kind of ideas.
And the fact that Alex Jones is repeating this Waterloo bullshit and this entire narrative means that he's beholden to that sort of stuff.
jordan holmes
Of course.
As you've pointed out...
dan friesen
I want to say this to the chat room really quick.
Someone has said that they know someone who worked at Bohemian Grove and want to know if we'd like to talk to her, and I'm going to say no.
Because I used to run an open mic where people could just talk about whatever, and then me and my friend Matt Riggs would interrupt them and ask for clarifications and try and help improve their jokes.
And one of the guys who came to the open mic said that he worked at Bohemian Grove, and then we were like, oh, we had to talk all about this.
And then me and Marty DeRosa were doing a show later, and he happened to be there, and he came on stage, and we talked to him about Bohemian Grove, and I haven't seen him since.
jordan holmes
So he's been killed.
dan friesen
I think he just moved, or quit doing stand-up, because that's entirely possible.
jordan holmes
Now he works for the Rothschilds.
dan friesen
I'm not taking any risks with talking to people who may know something that they shouldn't know, or any of that stuff.
So anyway, back to the clip.
Wait, what were you going to say?
Did I interrupt you?
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
What was I going to say?
Nope, I think I'm out.
dan friesen
It'll come back to you.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
So don't try it, Rothschild.
david rothschild
I mean, again, you've obviously, you know, like your climate facts, you're getting yourself into a confused situation, my friend.
alex jones
Yeah, I'm not confused.
These are published facts, Rothschild.
david rothschild
Well, like I said, email them to me.
Let me have a look at your published facts.
alex jones
Are you denying that N.M. Rothschild is not involved in the OECD and the Bank of International Settlements, the IMF and the World Bank?
Because we've had Joseph Sticklitz, Chief Economist, World Bank, Nobel Prize winner here on air to talk about it.
david rothschild
Yeah, well, I'll listen in to the show after I'm off the phone, sir.
jordan holmes
Don't do it.
alex jones
All right.
Well, listen, I want to challenge you to visit Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com so you can see the front line of the resistance.
We will defeat eugenics.
We will defeat the world feudal state.
We will prevail.
Let me ask you a question.
Do you believe in the whole social Darwinistic eugenics movement?
Because that's where the modern environmental movement came from, and that's where Prince Philip and Prince Charles and all of this scum get their ideas.
david rothschild
Listen, I'm here to talk about my book.
I'm sure you're going to buy one.
I'm here to talk about the concepts that are happening this weekend.
I'm here to talk about climate change.
alex jones
Are you guys pushing to make kids read it?
dan friesen
That's all.
alex jones
Are you guys pushing to make kids read it from schools?
david rothschild
It's not for kids and it's not in schools.
It's a book for anyone who wants to pick it up.
alex jones
But I'm looking at it.
I mean, I've got quotes from you saying here that this is for the children.
david rothschild
No, again, you're getting your facts wrong.
This book isn't for the children.
This book is the official book that goes to the Live Earth concert series.
It goes around the globe.
alex jones
Let me dig it out, because I have a copy of the book here.
You wrote another book, then, about children.
How many books have you written?
david rothschild
I've written more than you, probably.
alex jones
Oh, shit!
But what I'm trying to understand is, have you written a children's book?
david rothschild
Yes, I have.
jordan holmes
Ah!
david rothschild
It's got nothing to do with the environment.
It's actually to do with health and how our body works.
I'm a trained doctor.
I'm a naturopath.
And it has to do with how your body works.
It's got nothing to do with the environment.
So, again...
alex jones
Well, you know, the book I've got looks like it was...
Hey, forgive me.
It looks like it was written for children.
dan friesen
So, anyway, we'll get back to this clip in a second.
But I just love that...
Have you written a book for kids?
unidentified
Ah!
jordan holmes
I gotcha!
Gotcha question!
You've written a book for children, which means you're evil.
So ridiculous.
dan friesen
That's so great.
jordan holmes
It's such a master class in fucking trying to railroad somebody and never speaking to them.
dan friesen
Trying to get someone to fight with you and they're just not playing along.
jordan holmes
He could have just played a recording of him talking.
There's no reason for David Rothschild to be there.
Alex just wanted to yell at him.
dan friesen
It's pretty weird, though.
I mean, there is a reason in the grander sense.
I mean, Alex can say that he has him on the show.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And spoiler alert, in Endgame, the only clip they play, which I don't think is a coincidence, is Alex Jones screaming, your money-changing ancestors.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, that clip is what they play in Endgame.
And that's the part that's like, this is dog-whistly anti-Semitic.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Beyond dog-whistly.
This is just anti-Semitic.
jordan holmes
That's literally anti-Semitic.
Your money-changing ancestors does not mean anything different.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
There's no other different meaning to that other than a hard J in Jew.
dan friesen
But he can play a couple of clips No, but I've written a children's book.
Well, all right, you win.
But he can boost his...
He can boost his stature in that community because he has like...
jordan holmes
He got to yell at a Rothschild.
dan friesen
I got to yell at a Rothschild.
Granted, if you listen to the whole thing, he's being very reasonable and very polite and you're just being abusive to him.
But anyway, let's see how...
unidentified
Yeah, this is...
jordan holmes
Whenever we started talking, I was kind of hoping that this would be more fun.
This is kind of sad.
This is really sad.
This is pathetic.
dan friesen
But sad is fun.
jordan holmes
When it's Alex Jones being pathetic, it's fun.
I mean, if you listen to this and think Alex did a great job...
You're a sad person.
Yes.
Like, there's no other way to describe this other than a pathetic, weak-willed man yelling in fear.
dan friesen
And if you buy into anything he's saying, like, you're just either easily distractible, you're not following the conversation, or whatever.
I do support people putting stickers over Infowars stickers to the chat room, but I will not make a knowledge fight sticker, because I don't have that kind of money.
I can't pay things up front.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't have that Rothschild money.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Ooh, maybe we should talk to him.
We could work on his farm.
He doesn't have any employees.
He needs help.
dan friesen
It's in New Zealand.
I don't think we can get there.
jordan holmes
That sounds like a good place to me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, let's finish up the end of this clip.
It's, oof, boy.
alex jones
I have news articles here where you're saying that you're trying to wake up the children of the threat of global warming and climate change.
Are you saying that that's not a statement you made?
Because I've got all the newspaper articles.
david rothschild
It's a statement that I've made, but the book that you have in front of you, the book that I was asked to phone in on the show for, is not a children's book.
It's a book that anyone can read.
alex jones
Looks like it was written for children.
I guess you're targeting the childlike minds.
david rothschild
Well, I'm just targeting people who want to be interested and involved in themselves with information.
Like I said before, thank you for having me on the show.
It's meant to be a 10-minute talk.
I appreciate your debate.
I appreciate you taking the time to listen to me, and I hope you have a very good day.
alex jones
Lord Rothschild, you know that your house will fail in the end, and I want to let you know that anyone who supports the New World Order in dehumanization is going to go to prison.
You just need to know that.
unidentified
Sure.
david rothschild
Okay, thank you very much.
alex jones
Take care, buddy.
david rothschild
Visit me and bring me some food.
Thanks, buddy.
alex jones
Bring you some food.
There you go, ladies and gentlemen.
unidentified
Bring me some food.
alex jones
All right.
Well, we had his lordship on board.
jordan holmes
You're so sad.
alex jones
I mean, can you imagine having a bio out on yourself where you call yourself an adventurer?
An adventurer.
He goes around playing the part of the hero, saving the world.
dan friesen
So that's how it ends.
So he ends by saying, you're going to prison.
jordan holmes
I know, that's pretty great.
That's a pretty great sign-off.
I'm gonna give him that one.
dan friesen
And I love...
jordan holmes
Listen, before you go, I just want to make sure you know that you will be killed, you will be put in prison, your destiny is to die horribly.
Okay, could you bring me some food in prison?
dan friesen
I absolutely love David Rothschild's response to that.
That, like, you'll go to prison.
Okay.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Sure.
I think it was, sure.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, at the end there, Alex Jones...
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, he did say, like, okay, will you come visit me in prison?
Maybe bring me some food.
And then Alex says, bring me some food.
All right, like, I'm your slave.
I put you in prison and I still have to work for you, Rothschild.
Fuck you!
dan friesen
Because he's got nothing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So then he pivots to, can you believe this guy's bio?
I've pulled up Alex Jones' bio.
jordan holmes
Oh, let's read his bio!
dan friesen
This is his bio on Infowars.com.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Since the beginning of time.
jordan holmes
Nope, already out.
Already out.
dan friesen
What a dick.
jordan holmes
Why would you say...
dan friesen
I'm going to do this in a real dramatic voice.
unidentified
All right, all right, all right.
dan friesen
Since the beginning of time, there have been constant attempts to enslave and subdue the human spirit, from barbarian hordes streaming down the mountain to the Stasi secret police torturing those who dreamed to be free.
In this age of rapidly accelerating technology, the threat to our liberties is very real and a present danger.
Alex Jones is a unique voice that sifts through the information and exposes the underlying intentions.
jordan holmes
Every time he reads that, he comes.
dan friesen
Well, but, like, calling yourself an adventurer is not that much worse, I'd say, than saying you're the voice that fights against the technological version of the barbarian hordes.
jordan holmes
Is calling yourself an adventurer better or worse than calling yourself the savior of humanity?
dan friesen
Alex Jones has built Infowars from the ground up, putting profits back into the company to continue to grow exponentially.
Weirdly, exponentially is capitalized.
jordan holmes
Wait, why?
dan friesen
Alex has never taken a loan.
We know that's not true.
And is not beholden to advertisers anymore, because none will sign up.
Investors or any other group that could censor or influence his position.
jordan holmes
Definitely not true.
dan friesen
The listeners and viewers are Alex's partners.
Or customers.
And has vowed to honor their trust and always remain truly independent until an aspiring authoritarian comes along and then I'm just like, fuck it, this guy's great.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Alex Jones is internationally recognized by many as a trailblazer of new media and an icon of the burgeoning liberty movement.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
This goes on.
It's really long.
jordan holmes
How long is this?
dan friesen
It's really long.
Jones is dedicated...
jordan holmes
A bio is supposed to be like four or five sentences max.
dan friesen
Jones is dedicated to libertarian and constitutionalist ideas, in addition to what he has coined 1776 worldwide, promoting a true culture of liberty, transparency, and freedom on a planetary scale to empower humanity while vehemently opposing Agenda 21. In his bio, he cites Agenda 21. Yeah, and the globalist threat to national sovereignty.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Wait, so he wants to bring 1776 worldwide.
Right.
But, also, he's fighting against anybody taking down national sovereignty.
dan friesen
Yes.
You've got that right.
jordan holmes
How is that possible?
dan friesen
I don't know.
There's a weird...
There's a wiggle room in between.
I disagree.
In the spirit of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, Jones passionately argues against foreign entanglements and wars for the sake of corporate and banking interests.
Jones avoids the bogus political labels of left and right and instead focuses on what really matters.
jordan holmes
And he only hates the left.
dan friesen
What's right and wrong.
jordan holmes
Which is always the left.
The left is always wrong.
So yes, there is a right and left.
dan friesen
As a tenacious journalist, Jones is...
jordan holmes
He's broken hundreds of national stories over the span of his career.
I can't even listen to you talk this.
I'm going to talk over you while you are reading Tenacious Journalist.
dan friesen
Tenacious Journalist.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Jones is recognized for his...
jordan holmes
It's still going?!
dan friesen
It's so long.
jordan holmes
That's page four!
dan friesen
Yeah, it is.
Alex Jones is recognized for his incisive and hard-hitting interviews with a wide range of guests.
jordan holmes
What?!
dan friesen
Prominent guests include Willie Nelson.
Charlie Sheen.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait, wait!
Willie Nelson gets top billing on incisive and probing guests.
dan friesen
Joe Rogan.
Russell Brand.
I gotta find that Russell Brand interview.
jordan holmes
That would be annoying as shit.
No, that's gonna be the most annoying thing I've ever heard.
dan friesen
Billy Corgan.
Chuck Norris.
Jesse Ventura.
Ted Nugent.
Lou Dobbs.
jordan holmes
So if I understand correctly...
dan friesen
Oh, he gives a shout-out to Ed Asner.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
So if I understand correctly, his incisive interviews are starfuckery.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He only lists celebrities.
dan friesen
You know what's weird?
The next paragraph includes another list of celebrities.
jordan holmes
That can't be real!
It's still going!
dan friesen
He interviewed David Lynch.
We gotta find that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Viggo Mortensen?
unidentified
What?
Alex, this is more surreal than anything I've ever made.
dan friesen
Gore Vidal.
We gotta find that.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
dan friesen
Holy shit.
Public Enemy.
I knew that.
That doesn't surprise me too much.
Oh, and David Mayer de Rothschild.
jordan holmes
Oh, well then, at least he gets...
Wait, he gets bottom billing?
That's disappointing.
dan friesen
Alex's interview with actor Charlie Sheen, who disputed the official explanation of the attacks of September 11, 2001, received mainstream notice on CNN Showbiz Tonight.
Because it was Charlie Sheen.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Alright.
dan friesen
Oh my god, there's even more.
This goes on so far.
jordan holmes
That can't be.
There can't be more.
There can't be more.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
Do you know what that is?
dan friesen
In his list of documentaries, there's a documentary list, right?
It has Endgame, Terror Storm, The Order of Death, Obama Deception, and then the last one, Fabled Enemies.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice.
dan friesen
In addition to producing the above films, Alex has a cameo in this one.
jordan holmes
All right.
What that bio is, is...
Kim Jong-il.
That's what that is.
That's fearless leader talk, right there.
He is all of these things.
The more you have to list your accomplishments, the less you have accomplished.
dan friesen
So, this brings us to the end of the episode, and Alex has once again pushed us into an unfortunate territory of defending someone who's a billionaire.
jordan holmes
I think I'm still fine.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm alright with it, but I mean, you know...
In terms of, I believe in organization of...
I believe in that wholeheartedly.
I believe in the average citizen being mostly in control of their destiny, with some exceptions, because you've got to live in a society.
jordan holmes
Well, in terms of a political system, if you are going to build something along those lines that's actually sustainable and that will actually provide...
The incentive necessary to produce something, you wind up creating a system wherein you have a very high bottom and a very low top, but there is still a difference between the two.
There's always going to be a division of the people who are the most...
What?
Celebrated or celebrity, along those lines.
So, if you're talking about a...
dan friesen
You're talking about like Willie Nelson?
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
If you're talking about a sustainable economy, there has to be an incentive for you to create things.
There has to be an incentive for you to expand your business other than just satisfaction or whatever it is.
So you have that higher level.
You have the guy who owns the company.
But if the guy who owns the company is making 580 times what the guy who works for the company is, it's an unsustainable system.
dan friesen
Definitely.
jordan holmes
If the guy who owns the company makes three times what the low is, What the lowest guy is.
Then you have a separation that provides the incentive necessary to want to make your own company while at the same time giving you the comfort necessary in order to make a sustainable economy.
Anyways, what I'm saying is that it is not necessarily the fault of rich people that the rich are the single worst people that have ever existed.
But what I am saying is that a guillotine is a great idea.
dan friesen
That wasn't how I wanted to end this.
jordan holmes
It's not?
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Chop David's head off.
What?
dan friesen
David's cool.
jordan holmes
Nah, David does seem cool.
dan friesen
Shout out David Rothschild.
jordan holmes
I want to live on his farm.
dan friesen
Hit your boy up.
Give us some money.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that would be nice.
dan friesen
We'll do ads for you.
jordan holmes
Or fucking take us on an adventure.
That'd be great.
dan friesen
I'll go on an adventure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would go on an adventure in a heartbeat.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Not to Antarctica.
I don't want to go there.
dan friesen
It's interesting.
unidentified
It's cold.
dan friesen
It's interesting.
What we've experienced, and I always enjoy forcing you to humanize the people that you scream about.
jordan holmes
It is such a...
How awful is Alex Jones?
Generally speaking, just having a basic level of human decency makes me like you.
Like, something that should be expected.
All of a sudden becomes such a rare commodity.
dan friesen
It's not anymore.
Anyway, this has been the show.
If you'd like more, you can go to knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
You can follow us on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
And we are on Facebook.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can go to iTunes or you can join the Avengers Initiative.
dan friesen
And in order to do that, because we're now at the end of the show, send knowledgefight at gmail.com.
A screenshot of yourself having posted on an internet forum of some sort or a Facebook page of some sort of another popular podcast.
Or show.
jordan holmes
If you would like to help us ride other people's wake, please do so.
dan friesen
Or just try and expand the tent, trying to bring in the people.
We need to get the message out, and it's not working the way we're doing in terms of Facebook ads or Twitter ads or any of that stuff.
unidentified
No media wants to cover us, so that's not going to work.
jordan holmes
None at all.
dan friesen
So if you can do that, we would appreciate it.
Take a screenshot.
Send it to knowledgefight at gmail.com, and coming soon, there will be a special soundbite that will be ridiculously long, full of Alex Jones saying stupid shit, in the style of the policy wonk.
It'll be entirely new.
Not using that as a foundation.
It'll be completely new.
jordan holmes
You're not just going to add on to the globalists.
dan friesen
And exclusive to what I think I'm going to...
I think each person who does it, I'm going to give them the name of one of the people in the Avengers.
So I think Iron Man and Thor are taken.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, if you guys...
unidentified
Dan, you should be ashamed of yourself.
jordan holmes
And I think, judging by your face, you are.
dan friesen
A little bit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, we appreciate everything.
Thank you all so much.
This has been a delight.
jordan holmes
Yes, very much so.
dan friesen
So, who sucks?
jordan holmes
I think I'm going to have to go with...
Go fuck yourself, Lord Moncton.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
dan friesen
It's pronounced Moncton.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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