Today, Dan walks Jordan through the painful episode of The Alex Jones Show from Feb. 8, 2018. The pain mostly comes from Alex being in a very weird headspace, and lashing out aggressively at the trans community. There is pain, but there's also pleasure, in the form of Alex not knowing anything about Bitcoin and clearly having a conman as his guest to talk about it.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about... | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed it is, Dan. | ||
| Dan, why would somebody stay up until this late on a school night, Dan? | ||
| On a school night. | ||
| First of all, it's your Friday. | ||
| It is my Friday. | ||
| One of our dear listeners is possibly getting furloughed from the government, so that's a good reason to stay up. | ||
| That is a good reason to stay up. | ||
| Beyond that, I don't know. | ||
| A lot of people are listening to this tomorrow. | ||
|
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Fair. | |
| No, no. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| You dick. | ||
| That is a good point. | ||
| I'm not sullying our other listeners. | ||
| I'm just saying that there are plenty of people, a larger amount of people than we have any right to expect. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which we appreciate. | ||
| Listening to us live tonight at 10.30 on Thursday. | ||
| And you know why? | ||
|
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Why? | |
| Because I know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| I don't know a goddamn thing about Alex Jones. | ||
| Tonight's novelty beverage is Burnt City Brewery Face Melter Hibiscus IPA. | ||
|
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Very excited about that. | |
| We shall be melting faces. | ||
| Tastes pretty good. | ||
| Yeah, it actually does. | ||
| I don't know if it's what a hibiscus tastes like. | ||
| I've never eaten a hibiscus. | ||
| I actually don't know what a hibiscus is. | ||
| So, it's a flower. | ||
| It's like a tropical flower. | ||
| Oh, okay, now I know what it is. | ||
| So, Jordan, today I want to... | ||
| I don't know what I wanted to start with, but I had something. | ||
| I really did. | ||
| I really had something. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Do you know what I... | ||
| I got so distracted by the burnt city hibiscus. | ||
| I have a terrible pun that I refuse to say. | ||
|
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Oh, no. | |
| You know what it was? | ||
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What? | |
| The reason we're doing this so late is because you're too successful at stand-up comedy. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Yes. | ||
| Making in the tens of dollars. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| That wasn't worth going back to. | ||
|
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No. | |
| So, Jordan, today we're going to be going over the February 8th, 2018 episode of The Alex Jones Show. | ||
| That's Thursday of this week. | ||
| And I will say this. | ||
| I'm going to tell you this right now. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| This is going to be a lot of fun until it's not. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Just roll. | ||
| Don't give me intros. | ||
| Now I'm dreading what's going to happen. | ||
| No, that's why we're drinking. | ||
| You decreased my fun. | ||
| That's why we're having some booze, because by the time the booze kicks in, we'll be at the point where we need to be drunk to handle it. | ||
|
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All right, all right. | |
| But to give you some sense of where we're going, here is an out- You know you have neighbors, right? | ||
| No, that's why you can't scream. | ||
| Yeah, you should have front-loaded the rage part. | ||
| I don't know if it's rage. | ||
| I think it's a lot of unpacking. | ||
| Just bummer. | ||
| Well, it's a bummer, and it's a lot of trying to get to the bottom of what he's even trying to say. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| But here is an out-of-context drop from today's episode. | ||
| We're not lying to you! | ||
| Sounds believable. | ||
| If you are not lying to people, you don't have to scream, we're not lying at you. | ||
| Yeah, generally when someone yells at you about what they're doing or not doing, it's best to take that with a very large salt lick. | ||
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I'm not mad at you! | |
| I'm just... | ||
| Look, I don't know about body language so well. | ||
| I've got questions about that. | ||
| So today, there's a lot to go over. | ||
| I mean, the show's dog shit. | ||
| It's very stupid. | ||
| But there are a couple things that I'm going to have to point out that, like, I just don't have clips from them because boys got to prioritize. | ||
| And I've had a fucking full day. | ||
| Quite frankly. | ||
| Yeah, because you fucking wrecked Alex Jones. | ||
| With a shout-out to our policy work buddy, John. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely, John. | ||
| We got to the bottom of some stuff about Alex Jones' new website, fortifiedsupply.com. | ||
| And actually, we should put a pin in that just because it's going to come up on the show. | ||
| It's going to come up later. | ||
| We can discuss the details of that at that point. | ||
| But I have probably put in a 16-hour day at this point today doing this shit. | ||
| I'm pretty much at what? | ||
| I'm at... | ||
| 14 right now, so let's fucking roll, man. | ||
| That's why we need these beers and what have you. | ||
| But that's to say that I've been working on a ton of Alex Jones stuff. | ||
| Between that write-up, the endgame documentary that we'll be putting out in the very near future, and this episode. | ||
| And some of these narratives are worth just mentioning in passing, but at the same time, like... | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| After I read your thing, I've just been googling how to make a citizen's arrest all day. | ||
| I don't think it qualifies for a citizen's arrest. | ||
| I don't think this one works. | ||
| I don't think we have standing to sue him either. | ||
| I don't even know the legal process of what to do. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm very confused. | ||
| We're mad. | ||
| That sounds like standing. | ||
| So here's the first... | ||
| He bums us out? | ||
| You know what else bums me out? | ||
| Oh, nice transition. | ||
| Donald... | ||
| Trump. | ||
| Who? | ||
| If you're nasty. | ||
| Mr. Trump, if you're nasty. | ||
| He has come up with this idea that he's going to have this military parade coming up. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It is hilarious to me. | ||
| There's some problems with it. | ||
| No, I love it. | ||
| But here's one of the problems that I didn't foresee. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex Jones knows where he got the idea. | ||
| Some might say authoritarian regimes. | ||
| Just a little spoiler alert. | ||
| The last time America had a full-on military parade... | ||
| 1943? | ||
| No. | ||
| It was the end of the Gulf War in 1991. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, but beyond that... | ||
| That seems too soon. | ||
| Beyond that, there are showings of military pageantry on Veterans Day and stuff like that that are just yearly holidays. | ||
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Right. | |
| But the last one was in 1991 when we pulled out of the Gulf War. | ||
| So, to give some context, it's been, what, 27 years? | ||
| Also... | ||
| That's not the time to have a military parade. | ||
| No. | ||
| So anyway, where did he get... | ||
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We failed! | |
| Hooray! | ||
| We're going to pretend this was a W. Yeah! | ||
| Mission accomplished. | ||
| That wasn't a parade. | ||
| It's just as pathetic. | ||
| Anyways, I'm sorry to keep interrupting you. | ||
| I will not interrupt you any further. | ||
| Two days ago, President Trump came out and announced... | ||
| What? | ||
| for a fact, that's what made Trump even think of it. | ||
| For a fact. | ||
|
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And see, it's the access that the people have. | |
| If you get a letter to Trump, or if He reads something on Drudge or InfoWars. | ||
| He's dumb. | ||
| And he thinks it makes sense. | ||
| He'll look into it and he'll do it. | ||
| Just like he learned from InfoWars that Sheriff Joe was. | ||
| Don't, don't, don't. | ||
| He made some phone calls, couldn't believe it. | ||
| He said, why hasn't that been on Fox? | ||
| He found out it was true, and he did it. | ||
| And the White House admitted, yeah, they got the information from Dr. Jerome Corsi, who hand delivered it to the White House, and got it through to the President. | ||
| They hate that type of access, you see? | ||
| Yeah, you see? | ||
| They hate that kind of access. | ||
| I think that... | ||
| If I had a perfect world, we would remove Joe Arpaio's feet tomorrow. | ||
| He would just have no feet. | ||
| There would be no wheelchairs anywhere near him, no prosthetics. | ||
| He's just a man with no feet. | ||
| Just a little wobbly... | ||
| That's what I want. | ||
| I want him to be a shittier pirate. | ||
| That would probably be very generous. | ||
| Result for him. | ||
| You know, I just want him to be punished slowly for a long time until he dies. | ||
| Be inconvenienced. | ||
| I don't believe that torture is a good way to get information out of people because it's been proven. | ||
| We're not trying to get information. | ||
| It's been proven that it's a terrible idea. | ||
| My friend, we've got the information. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We know. | ||
| We don't need to torture him for a reason other than to punish him for his crimes against humanity. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I like the idea that Drudge is, for a fact, responsible for this military parade. | ||
| I don't care to unpack that. | ||
| I don't care if it's true, because if it is, that's fucked up. | ||
| If it's not, still fucked up. | ||
| Why would you say it? | ||
| Why, if it's not true, why does Drudge want that on his record? | ||
| Realistically, the only, like, I don't know. | ||
| It's tough to war games things when people are kind of crazy, but, like, I don't really see... | ||
| Like a reasonable motive for having a huge military parade with tanks. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| Like a Bastille Day style French. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| I don't like that the French do it, quite frankly. | ||
| You know what? | ||
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Eh. | |
| You win some, you lose some. | ||
| But it's also their country. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not going to tell their country what to do. | ||
| Yeah, you guys figure it out. | ||
| It's their business. | ||
| Nationalism. | ||
| You want to get a new Napoleon? | ||
| Fucking fine. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Alex goes on to talk about how, like, Russia has Victory Day, and that's, like, a really big thing, and, like, they have military demonstrations, and it's cool, because they're celebrating the end of World War II, and that is true. | ||
| And the Russians, the USSR, Soviet Union, was incredibly important in the end of World War II. | ||
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Right. | |
| They took on heavy fucking losses. | ||
| 11 million. | ||
| Yeah, it's insane. | ||
| Compared to other countries, the amount of... | ||
| All other casualties combined, I think, is the statistic. | ||
| Russians took the hit. | ||
| I believe that that is probably accurate, the all others combined statistic. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| I mean, not counting Japan and China, in which case, then you get into the whole thing. | ||
| Anyways. | ||
| So them having a militaristic Victory Day parade is totally in line with, like, yeah, that's a piece of history that makes sense to celebrate in that way, in the same way we do Veterans Day and stuff like that. | ||
| But I think one of the chief complaints that people are making when I looked into it and read some articles on it, the people who are complaining about Putin's Victory Day celebrations, it's that in the last few years... | ||
| It's been getting very Soviet. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Who could have guessed? | ||
| A lot of Soviet imagery is creeping back up in terms of Soviet uniforms being worn by some of the soldiers. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| A little bit of Stalin revisionism. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| There's a little bit of that stuff going on. | ||
| Wait, so is Stalin now taken out of his own pictures as well? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's a solid history joke, and fuck you. | ||
| I'm not saying it's not. | ||
| It just went over my head. | ||
| Oh, no, the whole thing, whenever Stalin would kill one of his buddies, if his buddy was in a picture with him, he would then be removed from the picture. | ||
| It's like one of those creeps who takes out the eyes of pictures. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I see, I see. | ||
| I was unaware of that little tidbit of history. | ||
| It's a nice little piece of history. | ||
| That's why Knowledge Fight is about education. | ||
| But you know what else it's about? | ||
| Removing Joe Arpaio's feet? | ||
| No, well, one day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But for now, it's about making fun of Alex Jones' craven attempts to make money. | ||
| And so, it is in that spirit that I'm going to play you this next clip, which is a commercial that Alex Jones has just released that's very exciting. | ||
| It's pre-taped. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| This isn't a live. | ||
| There's no pivot to this ad. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| This is a pre-taped commercial, and it also is... | ||
| The voiceover talent is not Alex. | ||
| It is one Owen... | ||
| No! | ||
| He's so bad at it! | ||
| The Cuck Slayer Schroyer. | ||
| Enjoy. | ||
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|
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You've already taken care of Valentine's Day. | |
| Make sure you and your significant other have an incredible Valentine's Night. | ||
| Why don't you just fucking say it's a boner pill already? | ||
| Just say it's a boner pill. | ||
| We know. | ||
| We know it's a boner pill. | ||
| You guys have already taken care of Valentine's Day. | ||
| Now let us help you with Valentine's Night. | ||
| Unless you are a senior citizen, I can't imagine any point in a relationship where you're like, look, we had a great Valentine's Day. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| I'm attracted to you. | ||
| I am very excited for this. | ||
| Let's both take eyedroplets. | ||
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Exactly! | |
| Of serum in order to get us to fuck each other. | ||
| All right, so. | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| Now, this is, again, where InfoWars is fucked up. | ||
| All right? | ||
| Because the obvious... | ||
| Go ahead, son. | ||
| Add it to the list. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because, obviously, if you're going to run a Valentine's Day special... | ||
| Right. | ||
| You put the male and female vitality... | ||
| Into chocolates. | ||
| Like one of those with the filled chocolates? | ||
| We have historical evidence that super male vitality pairs only with burgers. | ||
| So you can't actually have it with sweets. | ||
| Well, Alex likes to take a little bit of the super female vitality. | ||
| He doesn't want to tell you. | ||
| He likes it better. | ||
| He does want to tell you. | ||
| He says it all the fucking time. | ||
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He feels guilty about it. | |
| So in between... | ||
| Race-baiting? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Muslim-hating? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Just white nationalism. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're also like, guys, you want Infowars to teach you how to fuck. | ||
| That's what you need. | ||
| It's not like the Kama Sutra. | ||
| No, I mean... | ||
| It's just to put the Kundalini into your balls. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Penis rising kind of stuff. | ||
| It's not teaching you the how of it. | ||
| It's giving you the why. | ||
| Right. | ||
| These guys are such... | ||
| Such bros, like, you halfway expect the commercial to end with, like, hey, you need to lay some pipe, plumber. | ||
| Like, that kind of bullshit. | ||
| That kind of terrible read. | ||
| Yeah, fuck you guys. | ||
| Or it ends up being a commercial for, like, Spanish Fly. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| Or Funky Cold Medina. | ||
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Ooh, now there we go. | |
| What's Tone Loke up to these days? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I bet he could be got for Infowars. | ||
| He could. | ||
| Shit, I bet he could be got for us. | ||
| Yeah, we should call Tone Loke. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| He was in a great couple episodes of NewsRadio. | ||
| He was! | ||
| He's awesome! | ||
| But also, Funky Cold Medina is a very problematic song. | ||
| I don't want to talk. | ||
| It's very clearly about a date rape program. | ||
| I don't want to go back and look into Funky Cold Medina. | ||
| I just want to remember Surf Ninjas, the greatest movie of all time. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
| Schneider. | ||
| I'm trying to think of another star. | ||
| Can't. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Leslie Nielsen. | ||
| He wasn't one of the principals, though. | ||
| He was the bad guy. | ||
| He was the main villain, man. | ||
| He was like four on the call sheet. | ||
| And then there was that one guy, and then probably that kid from Three Ninjas, but who was also a Surf Ninja? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I always get Surf Ninjas and Three Ninjas confused. | ||
| Eh, same thing. | ||
| Anyway, in this next clip, Alex has a deceitful complaint he wants to make about the left. | ||
| It is the left at college campuses across this country. | ||
| That first started banning words like the N-word out of literature. | ||
| All right. | ||
| You cool? | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Should we start this over? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm going to take that win. | ||
| I'm going to take that one on the left as an ambassador for the left. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We're proud to have banned the N-word that you guys still somehow say, and we don't stop you from saying, because we never fucking banned it! | ||
| No one banned anything. | ||
| You can't! | ||
| No. | ||
| Anyway, let's start this from the top. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It is the left at college campuses across this country. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| That first started banning words like the N-word. | ||
| How dare they? | ||
| Just really quick. | ||
| I know that that's the exact same story I paused before. | ||
| But it bears mentioning that he's saying that in almost like a negative way. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| Like, first of all, they didn't ban the N-word. | ||
| I went to college and a lot of people threw that around. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Well, you went to college in Missouri. | ||
| Hey, now. | ||
| But, like, at the same time, he's saying it. | ||
| And I understand it comes from this weird libertarian place of race marriage and being against the Civil Rights Act but saying you're not racist. | ||
| You're just like, I don't want to restrict business. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That sort of stuff. | ||
| It's kind of in that same parcel, but it's very weird. | ||
| It's obviously racist. | ||
| It's very weird for someone to be like, I am against efforts to get white people to not say the N-word so much. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| Furthermore, you lead up to that one. | ||
| If you're coming out the gate with the left band, the N-word, as a bad thing, nowhere to go. | ||
| You're already wrong in a monster. | ||
| Well, I mean, look, quite frankly, Michael Richards can't have a career anymore. | ||
| He can't really work, but he's still a fucking millionaire. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Still a multi-millionaire. | ||
| He didn't have anything destroyed for him. | ||
| Like, what fucking work was he doing after Seinfeld? | ||
| He was in, like, two movies. | ||
| He did that, see, the... | ||
| Seinfeld reunion season of Curb. | ||
| Right, but that's fucking the same thing. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Anyway, back to the clip. | ||
| I'm going to start it from the top in honor of Alex. | ||
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God damn it, Dan! | |
| In honor of Alex starting clips over and over again. | ||
| It is the left at college campuses across this country that first started banning words like the N-word out of literature that was actually against racism. | ||
| They did! | ||
| And then moved on now to Martin Luther King because he said all God's children, black, white, yellow. | ||
| Red and brown. | ||
| They said, well, where's the trans? | ||
| Where's the... | ||
| You've got to remove Martin Luther King's speech off the wall. | ||
| So I looked into this, and actually what it's about is a college. | ||
| I can't remember the name of the college now. | ||
| I don't have it in front of me. | ||
| It's a college. | ||
| It's a college, and there's a student group that got together, and there's a mural, a painted mural on the wall of one of the buildings that has a Martin Luther King speech on it, and they were arguing that they should replace it with a new mural. | ||
| To say fuck you to Martin Luther King, but to reflect the fact that the civil rights movement has come a long way. | ||
| Race is still incredibly important and a big piece of it, but it's expanded from there into all sorts of maligned groups and disenfranchised populations. | ||
| And so it was more like an update more than anything else. | ||
| And if you look into it, this college has had this mural of Martin Luther King since like... | ||
| 1982 or something like that. | ||
| But before that, it had another mural that was the... | ||
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Of Woodrow Wilson saying the N-word. | |
| So it was a good change. | ||
| Well, liberals banned it. | ||
| It was a smart change. | ||
| No, it was the guy who founded the university. | ||
| And it was something that at the time seemed good. | ||
| And then as time went on, they're like, ooh, we don't know if this is good anymore. | ||
| So they covered it up with this mural that had the Martin Luther King quote on it. | ||
| And then now they're like, well, maybe we should update that. | ||
| They're not even demanding that they do it. | ||
| They're just having a conversation about it. | ||
| It's not banning Martin Luther King. | ||
| It is an essential part of concern. | ||
| Conservatism, and oftentimes probably the least offensive, like maybe the most justifiable is fear of change. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like there's a lot of fear of change. | ||
| That's why all of Alex's narrative harkened back to a bygone time of picket fences. | ||
| You know, two and a half kids. | ||
| It's a good idea to have that voice because if you are just like, innovation for innovation, let's change everything, then you may wind up throwing away what should be built upon instead of what should be tossed aside. | ||
| But Alex, the N-word should not be built upon. | ||
| It should be banned. | ||
| It's a tough place to start an argument. | ||
| Which is where he started it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm getting from the chat room that trans isn't a race, and yes, of course not. | ||
| No, we agree. | ||
| We're looking past that for now, because it's going to get way worse. | ||
| But also, the reason that it sort of slips through in terms of what Alex is saying is because the trans community is a part of the modern civil rights picture, as opposed to... | ||
| I guess it... | ||
| It still was in the 60s, but it wasn't nearly as big of a piece. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It wasn't accepted. | ||
| Even at the time, if you want to go anywhere, any black church, any white church, any church anywhere in the 60s, trans people, gay people, all of that shit was... | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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Punishable by whatever it is you want to do. | |
| To me, the civil rights movement now should expand to everybody who's not straight and white. | ||
| Because that's everybody who's being oppressed. | ||
| And the poor. | ||
| Everybody who's not straight and white and rich, and then we prioritize black women the most. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm not going to litigate the civil rights movement. | ||
| I have nothing to do with it. | ||
| I was about to say, hey guy. | ||
| How about you shut up, Jordan? | ||
| And that's exactly what I'm saying to me as well. | ||
| Right, because we've got to deprioritize your voice. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But my only point about that is that it makes sense in the context of what Alex was saying. | ||
| Just he's stupid. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So anyway, in this next clip, Alex has stumbled onto something. | ||
| He's had a revelation. | ||
| Throughout the first 15 minutes or so of the show, he's rambling about the Tiananmen Square. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Because there's a military parade coming up. | ||
| And now's the time. | ||
| And there's a liberal professor who... | ||
| Went out and said that he's going to stand in front of the tanks. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| A little grandstand-y, maybe. | ||
| Maybe a little tacky. | ||
| But at the same time, Alex is super pissed off about this, and he has developed a theory wherein the left, liberals, they're the Chinese in the tanks. | ||
| That makes all the sense. | ||
| And the patriots are the guy standing there. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It makes sense if you... | ||
| Just let him explain. | ||
| Just let the man talk. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| I was thinking about the hypocrisy of leftists in this country with Antifa hitting people in the head with bike locks, stabbing people, bombing things, attacking their cars, spitting on my reporters, dumping coffee on my head, CNN having them on saying violence is good against the right wing. | ||
| That guy he's referencing was a troll who got on CNN. | ||
| It just hit me that they are like the communist Chinese at Tiananmen Square in 1989 when they go out and engage in violence to stop our free speech anytime libertarians, conservatives, Trump supporters, you name it. | ||
| So I want to say one thing really quick because this is part of the clips that couldn't quite make it in terms of timing. | ||
| He does this fucking rant like five times on the show. | ||
| And one of them he's listing off grievances that have happened. | ||
| They yell at our reporters. | ||
| And one of them is like, it's totally fine to fart into a mic. | ||
| I'm like, that is fun. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| There's a video of this guy. | ||
| It's like maybe a guy in his 50s, 60s. | ||
| It's him and his wife at a rally and they're talking. | ||
| Millie, I think, is trying to interview them. | ||
| Millie Weaver? | ||
| Yeah, and he just grabs the mic and farts into it. | ||
| And honestly, I think it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| It's as funny as that little girl flipping off Owen Troyer. | ||
| It's so fucking funny. | ||
| Because it's an old man farting into their mic. | ||
| That's something that you shouldn't even mention if you're Alex. | ||
| You should just let that one go because that's objectively hilarious. | ||
| It's adolescent as hell, but man, so funny. | ||
| If Alex himself walked in here and farted into one of our mics... | ||
| All would be forgotten for the 30 seconds that we would laugh. | ||
| And then we would hate on him again. | ||
| But that would be fucking hilarious. | ||
| Or let's say that there's an Antifa version of Infowars somewhere, right? | ||
| And they're out at some Republican rally and Anthony Scaramucci farts into their mic. | ||
| Alex would love it. | ||
| It would be hilarious. | ||
| He would call it a classic move. | ||
| And if you're Antifa, chances are you'd be like, alright, that was good. | ||
| I would still think it was funny. | ||
| Yeah, I would still think it's hilarious. | ||
| Yeah, anyway. | ||
| Try to have an event. | ||
| Antifa even comes out with AK-47s in Austin and won't let my reporters on the Capitol grounds to be able to cover a woman who was killed by an illegal alien and the illegal alien gets off. | ||
| We go to a vigil. | ||
| And they are attacking men, women, and children and pushing them and hitting them and not letting them get into the event. | ||
| And the police stand there and look on while the left intimidate and Antifa calls for killing cops and cops are getting shot in the back. | ||
| All this Weatherman-style tactic. | ||
| And then they've got the nerve to have professors and leftist activists on CNN, MSNBC. | ||
| We played clips of some of them earlier saying, Trump's a fascist. | ||
| Lay in front of the tanks if he has a military parade. | ||
| So, again, I think that liberal professor that he played, I have no idea who this guy is. | ||
| I've never heard of him before. | ||
| But at the same time, I don't really necessarily think that... | ||
| I think that he might be a little... | ||
| Trolly? | ||
| No, I think he's sincere. | ||
| But I think he's a little more dramatic than maybe is required. | ||
| I just can't. | ||
| I mean, that is one of the most line-by-line examples of I know you are, but what am I? | ||
| I think we've heard in a long time. | ||
| To an extent. | ||
| Just go fucking word for word what it is he is saying that the left has done, and then just go to Charlottesville. | ||
| Well, there's that. | ||
| Line by line, that is exactly what the Nazis did. | ||
| Well, there's that. | ||
| How many white supremacists have been interviewed on CNN? | ||
| Or New York Times. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Or how many times are we going to listen to what white supremacists have to say? | ||
| And then he's like, well, they let leftists on here saying that white supremacy is bad? | ||
| These radical leftists! | ||
| There's an even greater irony that you're not quite... | ||
| Capturing. | ||
| And that is that he's saying that any time the Trump people and the patriots want to get together, Antifa won't let them do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the only example he comes up with is an explicitly white supremacist rally. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, I watched the video of Owen Schroer trying to get into that rally, and the rally is not, like... | ||
| It's not a vigil for Katie Steinle, the girl who was accidentally killed by a stray bullet that ricocheted off the ground that misfired from a, yes, undocumented immigrant's gun. | ||
| Yes, all those facts are absolutely fair. | ||
| Which we have exhaustively discussed. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But the rally wasn't a vigil for her as much as it was a collection and sounding off a gathering of people who were really mad about immigrants. | ||
| And it was an anti-immigration... | ||
| I mean, who knows? | ||
| Who knows the depths of what was really in the heart of it? | ||
| But that's what it was. | ||
| I watched the entire video. | ||
| They weren't threatening with an AK-47 any more than anybody is threatening everybody at open carry rallies. | ||
| It's the exact same thing. | ||
| You can't have it both ways. | ||
| But again, it's fucking stupid and pointless for us to bring up hypocrisy. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Now, this is fun. | ||
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| This next clip. | ||
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All right. | |
| Alex Jones gets into symbology a little bit. | ||
| Oh, yes! | ||
| So enjoy this very weird, very pseudo-spiritual kind of wishy business. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The pentagram is an upside-down pentacle. | ||
| A pentacle symbolizes humans. | ||
| A head, two arms, and two legs. | ||
| It's a powerful, powerful symbol. | ||
| Inverting it. | ||
| He's about it upside down and them siphoning the energy off of the inversion. | ||
| Because it creates major dark energy, major destruction, major the universe is not in order. | ||
| So these weak people go in and go, let me flip this upside down. | ||
| Because they're so weak, even though they only get a tiny bit of the evil power that's created by it, they still kind of go, warming their hands to the fire of evil. | ||
| Now, briefly. | ||
| No! | ||
| We have launched a new site, CertifiedSupply.com, and it's InfoWars site. | ||
| They censored us off Google Ads and everything, so I thought, you know, let's create a site that we say is a sponsor, but it's really us, and I thought, you know, I'm not going to do that, even though it's true that it'd be a sponsor if it's our subcompany that helps fund the operation. | ||
| It's InfoWars, so they want to try to censor that when I try to run ads with it again. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| It's a super fancy, high-tech shopping cart. | ||
| So Alex made a very crucial error in that last bit there, and that's what launched my investigation in earnest today. | ||
| We got into fortified supplies. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| This is the first time I've heard him plug it since he unveiled the fortified supply on December 5th of 2017. | ||
| That's what got my brain thinking again. | ||
| And one of the things that he said in there is very damning, and that is he's... | ||
| Giggling around about how, ah, it's us. | ||
| It's us. | ||
| And that's going to be a problem for him. | ||
| It should be. | ||
| Whether or not it will be is to be determined. | ||
| To get into exactly why, I recommend all of you listening to go to knowledgefight.com. | ||
| I have an extensive write-up about this, full of documentation, screenshots of Alex Jones' various contracts and legal documents. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He is operating what I believe, and I think it's pretty clear, although I don't want to say this... | ||
| You know, as an accusation, because if I'm wrong in some weird technicality, I don't want to be charged with libel or slander or something like that. | ||
| But it very much appears that he's operating Fortified Supply as an illegal alias for his company. | ||
| And that is a Class A misdemeanor in Texas. | ||
| And if he is doing this, as all evidence appears he is, he could face up to a year in prison. | ||
| God, wouldn't that be great? | ||
| At least that threat would be awesome. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| To me, it's like a... | ||
| And it comes down to things like that that he said on the show. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like him admitting, this is us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is our website. | ||
| We could pretend it's someone else, but it's us. | ||
| Well, it's getting Al Capone on tax evasion charges. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| That's exactly what we, you know, for all the crimes that we have... | ||
| I've seen him commit... | ||
| Borderline crimes. | ||
| This one's kind of a big deal. | ||
| Crimes of decency versus literal crimes. | ||
| This, I mean, if I were just talking about any other human, I'd be like, eh, who cares? | ||
| That's kind of a small thing. | ||
| And I kind of still think that about Alex, but I also hate him. | ||
| So let's... | ||
| Prosecute to the full extent of the law. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I guess that's kind of selective and philosophically problematic for us, but at the same time, we don't run a business, really. | ||
| Fuck Alex. | ||
| Yeah, and fuck Alex. | ||
| And by the end of this episode, you're going to be feeling that even more. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Two things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One, exactly to the jewel, how much power does the left get from the pentagram? | ||
| Spell jewel. | ||
| J-O-U-L-E. | ||
| It's a measurement of force. | ||
| I was trying to think of what a reasonable number would be. | ||
| What's an unreasonable number? | ||
| 75,000. | ||
| That's a lot of joules. | ||
| That seems like too many joules. | ||
| Do you think there are any scientists who tried to start a cover band called Run the Joules? | ||
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But J-O-U-L-E-S? | |
| Probably they did. | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm going to go with the big no on that one. | ||
| That's a hot Halloween costume. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm going to go with another big no on that one. | ||
| I'm going to go with two straight no's. | ||
| Second, clearly what he just said was that the reason that he set up the fortified supply situation and probably the reason that we're in the situation where we are with his lack of registration and the like is to get around Google's block. | ||
| Google is not allowing his advertisements because of course they're not. | ||
| And so if you don't have it associated with the InfoWars brand, you can put it up through Google and it won't give them the alerts. | ||
| I don't know if the... | ||
| It's a little bit complicated in terms of how you file a doing business as alias and that sort of thing. | ||
| And us having this conversation right now would be a little bit difficult for me to explain all of that. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Start from the beginning and then six hours from now we'll get into Endgame. | ||
| If you have a business that is like an LLC or any other sort of business, a corporation or anything like that, you file your corporation and it has a certain name. | ||
| Like if I started a corporation, it would be Knowledge Fight LLC or whatever. | ||
| Now, if I wanted to start another show called Freezing Point Goods or something like that, I'd sell something at Freezing Point Goods or whatever. | ||
| What would you sell? | ||
| Probably, I don't know, art. | ||
| I'd sell drawings. | ||
| Draw rings? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I got nothing to sell. | ||
| So this is all very abstract and stupid. | ||
| But if I were to do that, I couldn't sell things as freeze-and-point goods or whatever with the company that I've started without creating a doing business as name. | ||
| And to do that, you have to file with the Secretary of State and the county clerk of the counties that you're doing business in, wherever you have an office. | ||
| I would need to do that, and then these businesses would be exactly the same. | ||
| Now, in doing that, in filing that paperwork, I don't know if it would trigger Google or anything like that. | ||
| I'm not certain that that is a way to get around the Google block. | ||
| So that part of it is not explained by the explanation he gives there. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| But I'm not saying concretely that that is the case. | ||
| I'm saying that that's what he's implying is the case. | ||
| Well, but at the last time he talked about it in December, he implied that the reason was to get around map agreements, minimum advertising prices. | ||
| Right, which is not true. | ||
| Agreements that he'd signed with his suppliers. | ||
| So his story is even changing in terms of what his motivation for doing this is. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| It's one of the most suspicious things I think I've encountered in terms of... | ||
| And he's done a lot of suspicious stuff. | ||
| But this one's really big. | ||
| And I really hope people will pay attention and get the word out about this, but... | ||
| Did Daria set up Fortified Supply? | ||
| She may have. | ||
| Is it a money laundering website? | ||
| Well, see, that's where it comes into, like, we're in the realm of rampant speculation at that point. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's what I'm here for. | ||
| It does have the potential to be that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's one of the big reasons why it set off pretty serious red flags when I started looking into the nature of it. | ||
| And that is the potential for taking in dark money under the table, the money laundering capabilities. | ||
| Or just hiding assets, hiding money. | ||
| That sort of thing could be done very easily with a non-existent business that you're running that has no tax identification, that has no attachment to your normal LLC. | ||
| And to me, that's either sloppiness or a really desperate move. | ||
| And I don't know which it is, and it might be a third option. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, how much... | ||
| Someone has to find out, though. | ||
| How much dark money has been run through your boys like Manafort and those kinds of guys? | ||
| It's not necessarily a desperation move. | ||
| It could be just a massive revenue stream. | ||
| No, but see, the reason I label it as a desperation thing is because the history that Alex Jones has of being on the up-and-up with this sort of paperwork. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| Because you do see over and over again, like... | ||
| The various business names that he uses, like Prison Planet, Infowars, the Jones Report he even filed one for. | ||
| That's not even really a thing anymore. | ||
| That was a while back. | ||
| So he has all that history of knowing what to do and doing the right thing. | ||
| And I think now it might just be... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So I would narrow it down to three things that we would be looking at. | ||
| Either laziness, or just lack of oversight. | ||
| Sloppiness. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Could be desperation. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| In that, you know, whatever it is he's trying to avoid. | ||
| Or it could be greed. | ||
| And he's got somebody who's going to really throw a lot of money towards him. | ||
| Or even, let's add a fourth, could be Avarice. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure the capabilities of it, but it's possible that through this sort of thing he could hide money from his ex-wife. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He does owe a massive amount in spousal support. | ||
| Oh, that's a good point. | ||
| It could be a sort of thing where he's trying to create a workaround. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Maybe his wife has standing. | ||
| His ex-wife. | ||
| She actually does to some extent. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I don't think with this, but with some of her other businesses, I believe she is listed as a... | ||
| But she might have, like... | ||
| She might have relinquished that in the divorce. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's like the Midas Gold situation all over again, where they're like, hey, fuck this guy. | ||
| He was trying to hide it from his wife. | ||
| You know, like that kind of situation. | ||
| You know the other thing, too, that was weird that I came up with when I was looking over these records? | ||
| Like, just searching for various... | ||
| You know, Alex Jones-related records. | ||
| You found a lot of dead bees in your room? | ||
| Well, in the, like, county clerk's office, there's tons of stuff that you can find. | ||
| Like, I found his marriage license from his first marriage to Kelly. | ||
| Like, I found that marriage license public from 2007. | ||
| And the weird thing is, he's married again. | ||
| I couldn't find that license. | ||
| I don't know if that means that they're not legally married or what. | ||
| Or maybe they got a license somewhere else that they don't live. | ||
| They could have gone to Vegas or whatever. | ||
| I think you'd still have to have the license in where you habitate. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't know how it works, but it's weird. | ||
| I don't even believe in marriage, frankly. | ||
| Neither does he. | ||
| Common law. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Common law marriage. | ||
| Anyway, in this next clip. | ||
| As long as the sheriff says that you're okay with marriage, you're fine. | ||
| We've rambled a little bit on this, but just because it's something that I've been really looking into. | ||
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Right. | |
| For a bit and extensively today. | ||
| No, absolutely. | ||
| And I think it's important. | ||
| But the bottom line is something is up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Something is up with Alex's businesses. | ||
| And someone smarter with more access than us really needs to look at this. | ||
| Not necessarily smarter, but more access. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| More reach. | ||
| Good call. | ||
| Only sponsored posts. | ||
| Chances are he was married in international waters. | ||
| That probably would happen. | ||
| Anything goes. | ||
| Admiralty. | ||
| We come back to admiralty law. | ||
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| So in this next clip, Alex, you know, at the beginning of this show, he was pretty staunchly in favor of this military parade. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| At this point he gets a little wishy-washy. | ||
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| And you know why? | ||
| Because at this point in the day... | ||
| Tiananmen Square? | ||
| No. | ||
| Rand Paul had come out and said that, hey... | ||
| This is a dumb idea. | ||
| Well, I think Rand Paul's statement was that he'll support the military parade if Trump brings everyone home from Afghanistan. | ||
| If he ends the war in Afghanistan. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| So Alex now is like, ugh, shit. | ||
| That's a little bit like the liberal professor with, like... | ||
| Come on. | ||
| You're a little grandstanding there. | ||
| A little bit, but at the same time, it's in line with Rand Paul's principles and what he supposedly is for. | ||
| And it's a good point. | ||
| Yeah, and so Alex, I think, it's much like the ghost of Christmas past, is reminded of the principles he once had before he became a bootlicker for aspiring authoritarian. | ||
| And he's like, ah, shit, I gotta get wishy-washy about this parade now. | ||
| So he listened to this shit. | ||
| I'm all for a military parade, but he really needs to bring a bunch of troops home from these useless bases around the world that are bankrupting our country and that have been serving the globalists. | ||
| We need to bring a lot of troops home and cut the military budget for stuff that is purely empire building. | ||
| And Rand Paul has come out and said that as well, bring U.S. troops home from Afghanistan, then throw the parade. | ||
| But I understand what Trump's doing, triggering the leftists. | ||
| I'm making them come out and say they're going to attack the parade to show people the internal enemy and who they really are. | ||
| Also, no one's going to attack the parade. | ||
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No. | |
| Well, one, it's a military parade. | ||
| That's a dumb idea. | ||
| Anyway, hold on. | ||
| So, I'm just saying he should bring some troops home from Iraq. | ||
| They're coming home from Iraq now. | ||
| It's been announced to almost all of them, so I guess that's probably what Trump's got in mind. | ||
| You know, we always think, hey, Trump ought to do this, and he's five steps ahead that's already been planned. | ||
| In fact, I bet that's what happens. | ||
| But a great idea Matt Drudge had a year ago now manifesting. | ||
| Before I go any further, I just want to introduce you to our newest product from Before War's Life. | ||
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God damn it, Dan! | |
| It's Icarin Liver and Kidney Cleanse. | ||
| Did you hear what the name of his new product is? | ||
| Icarin. | ||
| You know what that is evocative of? | ||
| Icarus. | ||
| Icarus, son of Daedalus, creator of the labyrinth where Theseus slayed the Minotaur. | ||
| See, I was thinking more like Icar, or Icar, which is like the blood of a goblin, or that kind of thing, in Dungeons& Dragons. | ||
| Boy, that is not appealing for a pill. | ||
| I'm sorry, I'm sorry. | ||
| Fantasy nerd, fine. | ||
| No, I think that extends past just Dungeons& Dragons stuff, because I've heard that too. | ||
| No, yeah, it's a trope of fantasy literature. | ||
| But still not appealing for a pill. | ||
| No. | ||
| It definitely gives the image, in my mind, of Icarus. | ||
| That's the thing that comes chiefly to mind. | ||
| And, of course, Icarus, son of Didalus. | ||
| Didalus created wax wings in order to fly. | ||
| And he told his son, Icarus. | ||
| Which is Alex's next product, wax wings. | ||
| Wax wings. | ||
| Oh, what if he came out with wax lips? | ||
| For Valentine's Day! | ||
| Your wife's lips are too small. | ||
| Gotta be honest, only sponsored post is killing it tonight. | ||
| Also, Ipecac. | ||
| Oh, there you go. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| The point is, this is a terribly named product. | ||
| Icarin. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Very terrible. | ||
| Very terrible. | ||
| So, what I want to do now is I want to make a rundown of, before we get into the rest of the episode, of some of the narratives that we will be missing. | ||
| Just because... | ||
| Nice little what got cut segment? | ||
| Yeah, more or less. | ||
| I've already discussed the Victory Day celebration, that stuff. | ||
| Joseph McCarthy was right. | ||
| We learned that on this episode. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it's based on Russian files that have come out. | ||
| Russian files? | ||
| Yeah, the Russians have alleged that Joseph McCarthy was right. | ||
| And Alex is like, yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| Alex gets really defensive because the Dow Jones went down another thousand points today. | ||
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Bad day. | |
| And he's like, yeah, well, it's still got to go 7,000 more down to undo Trump. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Great. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| He gets really mad about Elon Musk shooting that car into space. | ||
| I mean, that's a legitimate grievance. | ||
| Well, because it's a stunt and bullshit, what have you. | ||
| I mean, I think of Gil Scott Heron. | ||
| Whenever Elon Musk did that, I immediately went, Whitey's on the moon. | ||
| Immediately. | ||
| A rat done bit my sister Nell. | ||
| And Elon Musk sent a fucking car into space. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| That's not as good a poem, though. | ||
| Not as good. | ||
| But Alex, his take on it is like... | ||
| This is a ritual. | ||
| This is evocative of that movie. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| This is evocative of that movie, Heavy Metal. | ||
| And so they do this. | ||
| He and Rob Doe created a little special report where they point out that there's references to Heavy Metal. | ||
| And as they're discussing that, the car... | ||
| It turns and you see on the dashboard, Don't Panic, which is a reference to the Hitchhiker's Guide. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And I'm like, Alex. | ||
| You guys do not understand what you are doing. | ||
| Alex, come on, man. | ||
| That's a different reference. | ||
| And so it's really dumb. | ||
| That's pretty stupid. | ||
| Just one thing to say on the parade, and I wrote about this today, but I am all for it. | ||
| I am so for this parade. | ||
| And I don't want anybody to say anything. | ||
| I just want everybody to watch this parade. | ||
| Because in America, we will all be like... | ||
| Oh, this is sad. | ||
| Well, do you remember- This is pathetic. | ||
| I mean, at the inauguration, the parade that they had with all the empty bleachers and shit. | ||
| Yeah, it was sad. | ||
| Imagine having a military parade like that. | ||
| So pathetic. | ||
| Imagine the turnout being really terrible to a pomp and circumstance. | ||
| Because of course it would be. | ||
| Well, you might get some jingoistic people. | ||
| You might get some of the people who are just like, I don't support him, but support the troops. | ||
| You get those little girl singers in the- American flag stuff? | ||
| No, I think they're out. | ||
| I think they're out. | ||
| Yeah, they don't like it. | ||
| They got screwed. | ||
| And so, lastly... | ||
| Oh, surprise! | ||
| Somebody didn't get paid? | ||
| So, this one guy... | ||
| I can't remember his name. | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| I looked into it. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| This guy testified not under oath and without a transcript that Hillary and the Uranium One deal... | ||
| Real serious. | ||
| Oh, I saw that on Fox News and the Daily Caller and all that shit. | ||
| And also George Soros is doing shit all up in business again. | ||
| And so I looked into it and I'm like, this is not great. | ||
| Adam Schiff and I can't remember who the other senator was. | ||
| Said that they talked to the Department of Justice and, like, this guy is not credible. | ||
| He's lied to us in the past. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That sort of stuff. | ||
| So, suffice it to say... | ||
| Like Iceman from the Iraq War lead-up. | ||
| Oh, I thought you were talking about Top Gun. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Also not trustworthy. | ||
| Nor was I talking about the X-Man. | ||
| Or the serial killer Keklinski. | ||
| Oh, that's a good one. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| A lot of Iceman. | ||
| A lot of Iceman. | ||
| What I'm saying... | ||
| Now, there's your comic book right there. | ||
| Now, what I'm saying... | ||
| I'm reserving judgment on this guy who gave testimony because he did show up. | ||
| Now, granted, it's not under oath, so there's no penalty for lying. | ||
| It doesn't really matter. | ||
| Hey, who said it but 90% of success is just showing up, man. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Oh, it looks like our bud, Best Oswald Donkey, he's just put into the chat room, I'm getting paid right now. | ||
| It looks like the furlough is happening. | ||
| Yay! | ||
| So let's cheers to that. | ||
| Is that a government shutdown? | ||
| What are we talking about here? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's what I'm taking it to mean. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| Anyway, let's get to this next clip. | ||
| Because this is fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex Jones does not know anything about Bitcoin. | ||
| True. | ||
| And he has consistently been like, I don't want to fucking get into this. | ||
| Because he thinks that... | ||
| The secretive people behind Bitcoin or globalists or something like that. | ||
| He has a lot of weird ideas about what's going on with Bitcoin because he's never really looked into it or he doesn't understand the process of mining for Bitcoin or anything like that. | ||
| So he... | ||
| I would say he should just leave it alone. | ||
| That would be a smart idea. | ||
| I think he shouldn't touch it. | ||
| Because the last time he talked about Bitcoin on the show, he had a Bitcoin expert on the show. | ||
| Who was... | ||
| Expert. | ||
| A Pizzagate weirdo named Dave Seaman. | ||
| Expert. | ||
| Rebranded himself and is now a Bitcoin expert. | ||
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Right. | |
| So on today's show... | ||
| He has MaxCoin? | ||
| February 8th? | ||
| No, he has had MaxCoin on before. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| A lot. | ||
| And Max Kaiser is also really into Bitcoin. | ||
| But be that as it may, he has this guy named Roger Ver on. | ||
| Where do these people come from? | ||
| Now, I want to tell you something about Roger Ver. | ||
| His name is dumb? | ||
| It's very dumb. | ||
| V-E-R. | ||
| He comes on to talk about Bitcoin. | ||
| And his own thing that's called Bitcoin Cash. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| Why do they always have their own version of this dumb shit? | ||
| Because you gotta make your own thing, man. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I respect that. | ||
| Entrepreneurs. | ||
| One thing that you should know about this dude is that he renounced his citizenship a while back. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And now lives in Japan. | ||
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Well, good... | |
| Good for him. | ||
| Yeah, good on him. | ||
| It's a great place to live. | ||
| That's one thing you need to know. | ||
| And that's why the Skype doesn't work, and so I can't play almost any of this interview. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's glitching out all over the place. | ||
| But they get him back after they go to break, fix up some Skype issues, and they come back with some calls. | ||
| And these calls are not good. | ||
| And Alex, because he knows nothing about Bitcoin, can't handle any of it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it delights me to no end. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Again, this is very complex. | ||
| I understand the basic generalities and how these systems work, but I can't vouch for you or the other groups. | ||
| I want to be clear about that just because I'm not usually flying somewhat blind. | ||
| Stay safe, Alex. | ||
| Let's go to someone who disagrees up front to add some balance to this. | ||
| Garrett in California, you're on the air worldwide with Roger Ver. | ||
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Hey, Alex. | |
| Big fan. | ||
| Love your supplements. | ||
| Just want to say that Bcash is just a fork of the original Bitcoin. | ||
| And it's a scam. | ||
| It's a Chinese scam coin that this guy, Roger, who's been arrested for selling explosives and all this other crap, is trying to push his own agenda and actually take down Bitcoin. | ||
| Okay, I said arrested for what? | ||
| I'd love to reply to that. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Arrested for what? | ||
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He was arrested for selling explosives. | |
| His Bcash is basically just a fork of the original Bitcoin. | ||
| Yeah, I heard that part. | ||
| We'll come back to you in a minute, Garrett. | ||
| Go ahead, Roger. | ||
| This guy very well could be a paid operative trying to disrupt Bitcoin Cash. | ||
| It's very simple. | ||
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The name is Bitcoin Cash, not Bcash. | |
| Bcash is a completely separate project, not related at all to BCH, which is in reference to Bitcoin Cash. | ||
| In reference to me selling explosives on the Internet, that's absolutely true. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
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He did... | |
| He did... | ||
| He read... | ||
| That is a sentence I hope to say one day. | ||
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In reference to me selling explosives on the internet, that is absolutely true. | |
| Now, this guy's probably a paid operative trying to spread trouble, but I did fucking do that. | ||
| I did fucking sell explosives on the internet. | ||
| Where else are you going to sell them? | ||
| He did 11 months in prison for selling explosives on the internet. | ||
| He did 11 months in prison. | ||
| Now what it turns out is- Oh shit. | ||
| It turns out that they were like illegal fireworks. | ||
| And so I have a little bit of empathy about it. | ||
| Yeah, that's a little disappointing. | ||
| It's a little bit of like- I immediately saw like cartoon bombs with the circle and the like giant fuse sticking out of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the big skull on the front. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I cut off this clip, but it goes on so much longer of him just being like, look, this is back when eBay used to sell guns, and everybody, you know, like, look, I ran for office as a libertarian, and I was against the gun lobby, blah, blah, blah, and they just, of course, I'm against the police, blah, blah, blah, and they decided to come against me and railroad me. | ||
| I'm the only person who got convicted. | ||
| It's all victim shit. | ||
| It's all in that victim narrative. | ||
| I just love that this Bitcoin expert is like, yes, I did sell explosives on the internet. | ||
| But you can trust me with this fake currency that I've invented. | ||
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Right. | |
| And the other part that I love is Alex's... | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| I did not know that he did time. | ||
| I didn't Google my guest. | ||
| I didn't do any research into this guy. | ||
| So how does it go from there? | ||
| Because that's even on his Wikipedia page. | ||
| It should be. | ||
| It should be basic knowledge of this guy. | ||
| If you do any vetting of your guest, any of it, what is it? | ||
| The third sentence on his Wikipedia page? | ||
| He did 11 months in the pokey for selling bombs. | ||
| So Alex doesn't know what to do at this point because he doesn't know anything about Bitcoin. | ||
| This caller has made a point that, you know, Roger isn't really disputing. | ||
| That no one is prepared to deal with. | ||
| And so here's Alex's take on it. | ||
| It gives me a headache, Roger, because you seem like a nice guy. | ||
| He seems like a nice guy. | ||
| I don't know what to believe. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No, he just said it. | ||
| What do you mean you don't know what to believe? | ||
| Both of them agreed that he did time. | ||
| No, I think that's more in reference to, like, you being a scammer thing. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Your Bitcoin operation being a scam. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know what to believe. | ||
| Look, you seem nice. | ||
| He seems nice. | ||
| You both sound white. | ||
| I don't know what to do. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| Like, oh, Jesus. | ||
| You both sound white. | ||
| So, Alex fucks up and takes a second call. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Drew in Indiana, you're on the air. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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Hey, thanks, Alex. | |
| First, I want to say it's well known in the Bitcoin community that Roger Ver is a scammer, and this is his latest scam. | ||
| Just hours before this interview, he manipulated the price of Bitcoin Cash up 25% just to push his narrative. | ||
| And I do have a question for him. | ||
| He's been telling everyone that Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin. | ||
| But this can be easily proven through cryptography by signing the Genesis block. | ||
| So real quick. | ||
| I've cut out Roger Ver's response to this because it's pointless. | ||
| Because why? | ||
| He just says, I've never said that in public. | ||
| And he's got nothing to say. | ||
| Which is a weird defense. | ||
| I've never said that in public. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| I say it in private all the time. | ||
| It's more interesting what Alex Jones does because he's out of his depth. | ||
| He has no idea what the Genesis block means. | ||
| He has no idea what a Bitcoin even is. | ||
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Right. | |
| He has no idea why it was up at $17,000 and now it's down at $8,000. | ||
| He doesn't even know that Roger Ver did time. | ||
| He doesn't know who Roger Ver is. | ||
| He doesn't know any of this shit. | ||
| This response is really funny. | ||
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Which means proving that he mined the first of Bitcoin. | |
| He cannot do that, but Roger continues telling people that this guy is Satoshi Nakamoto, which is a lie. | ||
| He must release the core from Cybertron, the heart of our world. | ||
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Will you release the core? | |
| Haven't traded a single? | ||
| Will you release the cube? | ||
| That's right, it's the cube. | ||
| Are you Megatron? | ||
| Roger Verder, are you Megatron? | ||
| If so, prepare for battle. | ||
| That's the radio version of saying, I'm out. | ||
| Nah, dude. | ||
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You said words, you said words, I'm out. | |
| You guys both seem to understand what you're talking about, and I'm the host of the show, and I'm not in for it. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| Fuck you guys, Megatron. | ||
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I don't give a shit. | |
| Are you Megatron? | ||
| Spoiler alert, Roger Ver's answer to that is, I am not Megatron. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| That's just joy. | ||
| That's just joy coming from my heart. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's great that we could have this time. | ||
| God damn you, Dan. | ||
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Are you about to take it away from me? | |
| I'm not. | ||
| It's just that what we're about to get into is a very weird... | ||
| Last hour and a half of his program. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| He's in a very strange place, and it's not entirely clear what's going on in his head, but it's something that's unhealthy. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure what it is. | ||
| We'll discuss it. | ||
| But one more thing that I want to bring up is that Alex Jones is very dismissive of the charges that the ex-wives of this Porter guy are bringing up. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I didn't want to hear him talk about this at all. | ||
| I don't want to hear anybody... | ||
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No, no, no, no. | |
| We're not listening to it. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| I just wanted it to be on the record. | ||
| I just wanted everyone to know that on the show, Alex is saying, hey, it's just minor stuff. | ||
| Yeah, but that could be assumed. | ||
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Bleh. | |
| Oh, well, yeah. | ||
| No, that Alex... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Do not... | ||
| No. | ||
| I get you. | ||
| No. | ||
| I get what you're saying. | ||
| Do not take that out of context. | ||
| I get what you're saying. | ||
| I mean, that Alex would say that can be assumed. | ||
| I get what you're saying. | ||
| I just misunderstood you for a second. | ||
| Yeah, please don't. | ||
| Please don't. | ||
| This next clip, Jordan, is incredibly bizarre. | ||
| Totally bizarre. | ||
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But still, not terrible. | |
| The last, like, 16 minutes of this episode are going to be terrible. | ||
| All right, great. | ||
| So just know that right now, enjoy this while you can. | ||
| Wait, 16 minutes of our episode? | ||
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No. | |
| God damn it! | ||
| 16 minutes of Alex audio. | ||
| So 48 minutes of our episode. | ||
| It's entirely possible. | ||
| This is going to be a... | ||
| Seven and a half hour one? | ||
| Yeah, I'd say maybe two hours. | ||
| We'll probably get an hour left, probably halfway through this baby. | ||
| So this clip, first of all, the beginning of it makes me laugh a lot. | ||
| And then we get sad. | ||
| No, the second part just makes me understand how Alex Jones interfaces with the world, and it's super fascinating. | ||
| And it's just, I mean, it just reinforces stuff that, I mean, we've been saying for a fucking year, but Alex lays it out in ways that he thinks he's bragging, but he's actually revealing that he's dumb. | ||
| Anyway, I'm going to split this in half. | ||
| Let's enjoy the beginning. | ||
| You know, there's some subjects that are so big that I have a tendency, To say I'm going to cover them and then I just don't cover it because so much breaks during the show that by the time I'm three hours in, I'm not really tired. | ||
| I'm more relaxed. | ||
| And then I remember the topic I was going to cover and don't feel the same outrage. | ||
| And then I feel like it's not a proper time to cover it. | ||
| So real quick, that's the first part of this. | ||
| Alex is straight up admitting that, like, by the middle of the show, I'm just kind of lazy, I'm in a groove, I'm just feeling relaxed, and I just can't fake the anger that I can at the beginning of the show. | ||
| So I want to scream about these topics, but by the time it gets to this point in the show, I kind of want to nap. | ||
| I did an interview with this Bitcoin guy. | ||
| I was eating a sandwich while he was talking. | ||
| And, like, I'm sleepy. | ||
| I had this shit I wanted to talk about. | ||
| And, look, I'm mad about it. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| I'm fucking mad about it. | ||
| But I just can't get it up. | ||
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I just can't fake it. | |
| That's what he's saying. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's 100% what he's saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's saying his anger is performative. | ||
| He's saying that all of this is, like, shit. | ||
| It's tough late in the show. | ||
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Right. | |
| Which, actually, I strongly disagree with. | ||
| I find that most of the time when he's faking it the hardest, it's in the third hour. | ||
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Right. | |
| Well, he has to fake it the hardest because he doesn't feel it. | ||
| That's when he's, like, crying. | ||
| That's when the spirit gets good to him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So anyway, the rest of this clip. | ||
| Nelly. | ||
| Oh, Nelly! | ||
| Don't. | ||
| So much fun. | ||
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Don't. | |
| This is really fun. | ||
| I'm trying to explain why I do some of these things that I can't stand. | ||
| And also, I know what the media's response is going to be. | ||
| And it's not that the media attacks me and lies about me when I cover these topics. | ||
| It's that... | ||
| It's not that I'm being attacked against to me. | ||
| It's that I know this is the key. | ||
| Some of these certain areas. | ||
| None of this is going to make sense, and that's fine. | ||
| It'll all... | ||
| He's speaking... | ||
| That's the only time you can... | ||
| This show is the only time you can say that, and I'm like... | ||
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Cool. | |
| He's speaking in tremendous vagaries, and it's not really going to come together for a while, but you'll get it. | ||
| You'll get it eventually. | ||
| All right. | ||
| There's a lot of keys, but compared to all the rest of the information in the world, it's very rare. | ||
| And we have the keys. | ||
| We have the absolute keys. | ||
| We know the enemy program. | ||
| We understand it. | ||
| We're not that smart. | ||
| I read the books written by them. | ||
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I read the books. | |
| Spoiler alert. | ||
| No, you haven't. | ||
| I have. | ||
| Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them, and I would have been a totally different person if I hadn't stopped reading children's books when I was about seven years old and started reading adult books. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| Not the way to go about it. | ||
| So, seven years old is probably first grade? | ||
| Maybe? | ||
| Roundabout. | ||
| First or second grade? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's no way that, I mean, 95% of humans have the, I would say even higher than that. | ||
| 98% of humans. | ||
| Ah, Dan. | ||
| At that age. | ||
| Genetic learning. | ||
| Race memory? | ||
| Race memory. | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Four ways to learn. | ||
| The ability, like the cognitive development that's required to even really understand full sentences and, you know. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Complex dialogue, complex narratives. | ||
| It's almost impossible at age seven. | ||
| I... | ||
| I was just about to start reading Brian Jax's Redwall series. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He was reading the lesser works of Joyce. | ||
| Now, see, you shouldn't do that. | ||
| No. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| I'm not saying that Dubliners is a hugely difficult thing to read. | ||
| But yes, it is, and he will never understand Dubliners. | ||
| Dubliners is a hit with the elementary set. | ||
| The problem is you can't... | ||
| Although, actually, elementary kids might understand Finnegan's Wake a lot better than some of the English majors I knew in college. | ||
| But that's more about them. | ||
| The problem is that you can physically read anything at any age. | ||
| You just can't understand it. | ||
| You can't understand the textural deepnesses of things. | ||
| You can't understand subtext. | ||
| You can't understand rhetoric. | ||
| Those sorts of things. | ||
| And you really can't until, you know, I would say... | ||
| Like, for a lot of this complicated stuff, probably into your teens. | ||
| Oh, I mean, well, a lot of people still don't understand the first sentence of Pride and Prejudice. | ||
| I don't know if I do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, let's keep this going. | ||
| And it was all because my dad loved encyclopedias, and they would buy me very few toys and have to go mow lawns to get a new bike. | ||
| It was good. | ||
| It taught me how to work. | ||
| But my dad would buy me any books I wanted. | ||
| And so I'd say, I'd get home from school or after practice or whatever, and they'd have Time Life Books, The Wall, Wall, Western. | ||
| Time Life Books, The Occulter. | ||
| Time Life Books, World War II. | ||
| Time Life Books, Vietnam. | ||
| Those are largely just like magazines. | ||
| Time Life Books? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, they're like magazine books. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| They're like serialized books. | ||
| I remember my dad had some of those in my house when I... | ||
| I think I saw like an infomercial for those one time, or like a commercial, but I don't know what they are. | ||
| Yeah, but you kind of do, even though you don't. | ||
| Yeah, gotcha. | ||
| I'm like books, you know, the Manhattan Project and other super science projects or whatever, and I would, those things would come, so many, that there was just, because my dad's a big book guy, the whole house was just bookshelves then. | ||
| Funny, kind of the age of TV. | ||
| It's not with computers. | ||
| You can see this house now. | ||
| It's got a lot of bookshelves, but nothing like the old house in Dallas. | ||
| And it was just walls of them. | ||
| And it was like, I mean, I read 20-volume set World War II by the time I was 8 years old. | ||
| That's a bad idea. | ||
| And that was just an encyclopedia on World War II. | ||
| Well, how many World War II historians actually read that? | ||
| You see, and that's kind of entry-level. | ||
| By 11, I was reading Order of the Death set. | ||
| Fifth grade. | ||
| 1,100 pages or whatever, 900 pages. | ||
| And Shearer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. | ||
| Then why was your vocabulary so bad? | ||
| Studying World War II. | ||
| I've probably read 200 books on World War II. | ||
| And I'm not bragging about it. | ||
| I just get around historians and people. | ||
| They don't know half of what I know. | ||
| And it's all embedded in there. | ||
| And then I studied everything else. | ||
| And then my dad said, you want to read this? | ||
| Zebed and Brzezinski. | ||
| Technotronic era. | ||
| So this gets to the heart of the matter, and that is that Alex Jones read all these things that he cites before he had cognition to understand them. | ||
| And that created a framework in his brain when he was 7, 8, 10 years old that isn't mature. | ||
| If he did. | ||
| If he is telling the truth. | ||
| No, I believe that he skimmed through those books or the process of reading them. | ||
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Right. | |
| But to be honest, the Technotronic era, it's a difficult book to read. | ||
| It's engageable as a 30-year-old or if you're in college or something like that. | ||
| It's about right. | ||
| If you're a 10-year-old even reading that, it's going to take you a couple months, probably, because every sentence you're going to have to be like, what does this mean? | ||
| Or you won't. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, if you are reading World War II books at eight years old... | ||
| Encyclopedias. | ||
| If you're reading books about World War II at eight years old, I think it's entirely reasonable for an eight-year-old to be like, Hitler was a strong dude. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Like, in that case, at that time period, it's not real. | ||
| In that time period, you're reading comic books. | ||
| Because you lack context. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You lack any framework of the world or anything like that. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| It's like somebody saying that the Joker is a great character. | ||
| You know, like that kind of thing. | ||
| He's a great character. | ||
| He's the monster, though. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, like when you go back and read that shit, in reality, you go, oh, look at all of this other stuff. | ||
| That's what a fucking monster is. | ||
| And if you are, from that very young age, inclined to believe that the strongest or the most ruthless is admirable, then you get your Alex Jones. | ||
| And if you're reading all of these World War II... | ||
| He's read 200 books. | ||
| I mean, he's presenting that as being over the course of his life. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if you... | ||
| He's read 100 books. | ||
| I don't think he's read hundreds of books. | ||
| I don't think he's ever read hundreds of books. | ||
| But if you're reading a lion's share of that, a bulk of it, when you're younger than 11, I just don't think that you're going to be able to critically analyze the viewpoint of the writer. | ||
| I think that there's a decent chance that he might have read some even possibly pro Nazi books. | ||
| Well, if his dad's a CIA dentist. | ||
| Or at least dubiously authored books. | ||
| I mean, the best evidence for his inability to... | ||
| Again, if this is true, which I have a healthy suspicion about, you can see from his vocabulary that he is unable to comprehend that. | ||
| If he had read Calvin and Hobbes when he was a child, he would have a better vocabulary than if he had read World War II books that he doesn't understand. | ||
| I'm not certain I understand all of Calvin and Hobbes. | ||
| There's very complicated issues that are built into it. | ||
| It's a great, great comic. | ||
| I recommend it for children. | ||
| That and Zbigniew Brzezinski books. | ||
| I also do. | ||
| But I think that this issue has plagued him throughout his life and that he functions in the world. | ||
| With that childhood cognition in an adult, angry body. | ||
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Right. | |
| He exists as this really furious, I've read all these books! | ||
| And it's like, you don't understand the books. | ||
| Like, because I can go to all of them, and I have. | ||
| I mean, I haven't read everything that he claims to have read, but I've read so many of the things that he's cited specifically, and they don't say what he's saying. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, a lot of times he pretends that they're prescriptive. | ||
| Like, they're saying this should happen. | ||
| Or something like that, when they're just descriptive. | ||
| They're just explaining the situation, or they're explaining the world as it is, and not offering a solution. | ||
| And because he's a child in his brain, he's like, oh, what they're secretly saying is that this is the hellscape we should live in. | ||
| And this is a reasonable thing if you aren't capable of growing out of it. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Like a separate piece. | ||
| Shitty book. | ||
| When I was like 13, I read that, and I thought it was a shitty book. | ||
| And then I reread it later on in life, and I understood the depth and the point of views that are built into it. | ||
| It's a shitty book, but it's much more meaningful now that I'm capable of understanding what that guy was fucking talking about. | ||
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Totally. | |
| Because at 13, I didn't really understand the mindset of children going to war. | ||
| I loved Bukowski before I could drink. | ||
| There's a lot of stuff that you should age through. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or you should... | ||
| That's one of the interesting things about... | ||
| Or you should absolutely revisit as your perception changes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You'll find that the book itself changes. | ||
| Abso-fucking-lutely. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The only thing that doesn't is Steppenwolf, the best book of all time. | ||
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All right. | |
| All right. | ||
| But it actually has changed even in my life. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But I still love it each time. | ||
| Are you okay? | ||
| No, I was just thinking about... | ||
| The other book I was going to do an audiobook on. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Journey to the End of the Night is more deeply problematic. | ||
| L.F. Selene is not great. | ||
| I wouldn't. | ||
| So, anyway, in this next clip... | ||
| For any listener who wants to look into it, don't. | ||
| That book is so good, but the man is so terrible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But in this next clip, Alex... | ||
| Makes a weird claim about Hollywood. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| That's good enough of an intro. | ||
| I've gotten to know people at the highest levels of Hollywood. | ||
| And since the whole quasi-collapse of it, I've gotten to know people that are in this conservative secret society. | ||
| Big producers. | ||
| Some of the biggest. | ||
| And none of them live in Hollywood. | ||
| None of them want to be anywhere near it. | ||
| And they try to just do decent stuff. | ||
| And strangely enough, everything they do is a hit. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The most successful people long range in Hollywood are the libertarian Christian conservative patriots. | ||
| Because you know what? | ||
| That's what America wants anyway. | ||
| See, that's the crazy thing about this. | ||
| That's very convenient. | ||
| That's super convenient. | ||
| You know, for somebody who loves to give examples... | ||
| He does not give any examples. | ||
| No, of course not, because it's a vague nonsense thing. | ||
| Like, give an example. | ||
| Like, what are we talking about? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, when I think of, like, secret Hollywood patriots that he talks about, there's always Jay Leno. | ||
| Tim Allen. | ||
| Tim Allen. | ||
| Well, he's not so secret. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, he's a fucking lunatic. | ||
| Clint Eastwood he brings up, but he's not secret either. | ||
| Nope. | ||
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He's crazy. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| There's all this talk of, like, there's a large group of secret conservatives in Hollywood, and I don't really fucking care about that, because I don't necessarily think it's real, and I don't care. | ||
| Because there's a lot of very powerful conservatives who are out, and it doesn't really seem to be that much of a stigma. | ||
| We've talked about The Rock already. | ||
| Yeah, which is such a disappointing revelation. | ||
| But even just on a very specific level... | ||
| It doesn't change how I think about The Rock. | ||
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No. | |
| I don't think anyone cares. | ||
| Unless you are, let's say... | ||
| A white supremacist. | ||
| Well, hey, Schwarzenegger was a shitty governor, but Terminator 2 is still great. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| But I don't believe that this mythic secret society of conservatives in Hollywood exists. | ||
| I don't believe that Alex has talked to them. | ||
| But it's so fun. | ||
| It's this game he gets to play where he's like... | ||
| I have this secret knowledge of these secret conservatives, and guess what? | ||
| They're the most successful! | ||
| Who would have guessed? | ||
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Ha ha! | |
| Don't have to prove anything! | ||
| That's why the Left Behind series is bigger than Harry Potter. | ||
| Everybody knows this. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| That's what Americans want. | ||
| It's what they want! | ||
| They don't want this fucking wizard bullshit. | ||
| You know that the Lord has said that you should burn witches. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, he does actually have one pivot point. | ||
| Or like hinge to his Hollywood ramblings in this episode that I agree with him on and I'm not going to dispute. | ||
| And that is that one guy is a piece of shit. | ||
| I'm not going to reveal who that person is. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Because it's more fun. | ||
| Because it's not going to be who it should be. | ||
| No, this clip is going to lay out who it is. | ||
| But it's going to take Alex forever to get to it. | ||
| And it's one of the creepier things I've ever heard. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't know what Alex is talking about in this clip, and we're going to have to analyze this a bit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I will be taking extensive notes. | ||
| The conclusion of who he doesn't like, I agree. | ||
| They don't just want to abuse women or men or anybody. | ||
| They want power. | ||
| They want to mess with people. | ||
| They want to kick your pregnant wife down the stairs and have her have a miscarriage and have it done in your place with your people so that everybody can say that Alex Jones did it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I made a decision that even though that was 16 years ago, I'm not normally a vengeful person. | ||
| I move forward. | ||
| But I decided just right in my heart now to come after you. | ||
| So hold on. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| What was 16 years ago? | ||
| Did he kick his wife downstairs? | ||
| I think he's accusing someone of kicking his wife down the stairs. | ||
| I think he's revealing that he kicked his wife downstairs. | ||
| I don't know what's going on. | ||
| That's one of the most terrifying things. | ||
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Wait, wait. | |
| Why did he say 16 years ago? | ||
| That'd be 2002. | ||
| I don't like that at all. | ||
| Well, when I first heard this, I was like... | ||
| Well, I mean, it was right after 9-11. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It was a tough time for everybody. | ||
| It was a tough time for everybody. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| I thought, because he ends up getting threatening towards somebody at the end of this clip, and I thought, like, 2002 is probably right around when he might have still been working with Linklater. | ||
| Is Linklater a fucking asshole? | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| Did Linklater kick his wife downstairs? | ||
| Spoiler alert, it's not Linklater. | ||
| But that's the fucking thing. | ||
| Is he literally talking about someone kicking his wife down the stairs and causing a miscarriage to try and frame him? | ||
| Right. | ||
| What the fuck is he talking about? | ||
| Because he did say... | ||
| Because Burroughs was dead by then, so we know it wasn't him. | ||
| I want to scroll back a tiny bit so you can hear that again, because that's so weird. | ||
| Alex Jones did it. | ||
| But I made a decision that even though that was 16 years ago, I'm not normally a vengeful person. | ||
| I moved forward, but I decided just right in my heart now to come after you. | ||
| And so I am starting next week. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| People like me tell you we're coming. | ||
| And we walk into traps. | ||
| So that's what this is all about. | ||
| You operate in the dark, I operate in the light. | ||
| And we'll see how you do when I drag your ass out in the light. | ||
| Because you're never going to get away with what you've done, all the things you've engaged in. | ||
| And I think the fall of that piece of crap, he is worshipped in Hollywood. | ||
| Not because his film's the very worst produced ever. | ||
| They're just soft-fistic crap. | ||
| But because he's a degenerate, filthy scumbag. | ||
| And I think it's time we have people on to talk about Quentin Tarantino. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Actually, I guessed that one. | ||
| You did? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| In the notes? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, no, no, because Quentin Tarantino just came out, or the audio was revealed of him being like... | ||
| Eh, that girl that Roman Polanski raped, she wanted it. | ||
| Like, that kind of thing. | ||
| And among other things, he's a fucking pile of shit. | ||
| Yeah, he's a pile of shit. | ||
| The Uma Thurman shit, like that whole thing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, I don't... | ||
| Monster. | ||
| I don't think anybody is surprised by that either, right? | ||
| No! | ||
| Like, we're all like, oh, we didn't know, but... | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| There's a difference for us. | ||
| And people who work in the business. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, for us... | ||
| We'll never do that. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| Not that. | ||
| It's that, like, we didn't know, but you hear and you're like, yep. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I smelled that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, like, we have no idea what people's personal lives are like. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because there are people who are monstrous people in character. | ||
| You know, who are actually awesome. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You could take a long list of, like, professional wrestlers who were the classic heels. | ||
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Right. | |
| Who behind the scenes were the sweetest people in the world, you know? | ||
| Their whole public persona is like, I cheat and brutalize people and beat them down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they're super nice. | ||
| And the opposite is true. | ||
| Like, traveling around doing enough shows with clean comics who do all Christian shows. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And you're like... | ||
| Ooh, you're a fucking monster in real life. | ||
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Happens all the time. | |
| All the time. | ||
| And so there is that sense of, like, you don't really know from the outside. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| But when you hear, you're like, yep, that makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| That's how I felt about Quentin Tarantino for a long time. | ||
| And I'd heard some things. | ||
| I've really been thrilled with him. | ||
| Like, eh, fuck it. | ||
| Eh, I like some of his movies. | ||
| I think some of them are sophisticated garbage. | ||
| I think Alex's film criticism is even not too far off there. | ||
| It's within the realm of okay. | ||
| We agree with Alex. | ||
| Bring back the troops. | ||
| And some of Quentin Tarantino's films are sophisticated garbage. | ||
| I'm more concerned about the idea that Quentin Tarantino kicked his wife down a flight of stairs. | ||
| I thought... | ||
| Wait, Quentin Tarantino kicked Alex's wife down the flight of stairs? | ||
| That's what that fucking clip seems to imply. | ||
| It kind of sounds like it says that, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if that's the case... | ||
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I want to know way more about that. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But we learn nothing about it. | ||
| Why would you say 16 years ago if you weren't referencing... | ||
| A specific time your wife was kicked down the stairs. | ||
| You know, I think most likely... | ||
| I mean, if it's the case that Quentin Tarantino kicked Alex Jones' wife down a flight of stairs... | ||
| Which, ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here first. | ||
| By the way, I... | ||
| I told you earlier in the show I found their marriage license. | ||
| They were married in 2007, which is five years after 16 years ago. | ||
| But be that as it may, was he married earlier than that? | ||
| No, that was his first wife. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Was it, though? | ||
| If that's the case, then I feel very sad for Alex and his ex-wife. | ||
| Yeah, that's awful. | ||
| I need to know more about it. | ||
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But realistically, let's look. | |
| Occam's razor. | ||
| He was riffing on globalists and what they want to do to you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then he was like, oh wait, I was wrong by somebody. | ||
| And he's probably referencing 16 years ago, him and Quentin Tarantino got into a fight. | ||
| They got into an argument. | ||
| Because Quentin Tarantino has roots in Austin and Texas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or Alex was with Linklater at the time. | ||
| He got invited to a party. | ||
| Quentin Tarantino. | ||
| Or Mike Judge, even. | ||
| Or Mike Judge, yeah. | ||
| There's no doubt that Alex is an asshole, and another asshole mixes in with an asshole, because Quentin Tarantino's an asshole. | ||
| The two of them just become assholes together. | ||
| And then they have a fight and no one wins. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's probably the most... | ||
| And there's collateral damage of an innocent person getting kicked over. | ||
| Well, not the kick down the stairs. | ||
| That's probably just riffing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| But why did he say 16 years? | ||
| Fuck, I don't know. | ||
| I'm so... | ||
| I've got to know why he said 16 years. | ||
| This begs so many questions. | ||
| And this is why I want to be friends with Alex, even though I want to destroy him. | ||
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Right. | |
| So I can call him and be like, what were you talking about? | ||
| I want us to be like jocular enemies to an extent so I can hit him up on Twitter and be like, Alex, you were getting weird. | ||
| What the fuck were you talking about? | ||
| And he's like, oh no, that was just riffing, man. | ||
| Look, here's the deal. | ||
| Me and Mike Judge were pretty liquored up. | ||
| You want to know the Alex without the trappings. | ||
| Or we can wait until next week. | ||
| And see what comes out, because he said next week he's going to start taking it down. | ||
| That's a good point! | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| Quite frankly, if he just takes Quentin Tarantino down on the merits... | ||
| I'm all for it. | ||
| I'm not really going to fight that. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Do what you do, baby. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As long as you're not lying and exaggerating for no reason, I'm cool. | ||
| It's so strange that Alex assumes that many of his critics have a dog in the fight. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| He's like, oh, you guys are going to defend Quentin Tarantino. | ||
| We're like, yeah, no, no, no, fuck him too. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| Watch you both light each other on fire. | ||
| It's hilarious to me. | ||
| He loves the idea of uniformity of what he's opposed to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Without realizing there's gradients within it. | ||
| Because he's super mad about feminism. | ||
| But there's a large portion of feminism that's trans-exclusionary. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| So there's that. | ||
| He would kind of be into that to some extent. | ||
|
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Or whatever. | |
| There are different segments of the groups that he's against. | ||
| It's not unipolar. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Let's even look at our podcast. | ||
| We're not unipolar. | ||
|
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No. | |
| You and I have different, like, philosophical or principled beliefs. | ||
| Like, if Alex was just like, knowledge fight is one thing that's against me, like, eh, realistically, me and Jordan both hate you, but... | ||
| But there's nuance to it. | ||
| There's differences. | ||
| See, that's the thing about people with black and white worldviews, is that they will always project that onto everybody else. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| So if you have a dichotomy, you will always project that everyone else has a dichotomy as well. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| You will never be capable of understanding that, fuck that guy, fuck you, for whatever reason. | ||
| It has nothing to do with whatever it is I'm criticizing certain things about. | ||
| Fuck you on the merits, and unfortunately that works both ways. | ||
| It's a two-edged sword. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| I love Kill Bill, but I'm not going to defend Quentin Tarantino. | ||
| I like Inglorious Bastards. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Jordan? | ||
| Now is not the time to get into divorcing the art from the artist. | ||
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No. | |
| I feel like that's a long conversation. | ||
| No. | ||
| And there's people who are way worse than him and people who are worse artists also. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| It's not important. | ||
| Not our litigation. | ||
| What we must do now, we have one segment left to do. | ||
| Of the good? | ||
| One. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| We're done with the good. | ||
| Oh, now we're getting into the trouble. | ||
| 16 minutes of... | ||
| We're going to get into the Blitz. | ||
| But before we do, I must take a quick intermission. | ||
| I apologize because this is a late night show. | ||
| But Chaboy got to pee and I got to be focused for the rest of this. | ||
| We're going to edit this out. | ||
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I'll be back in about two minutes. | |
| We'll be back. | ||
| Sorry about that, guys. | ||
| All right, we're back. | ||
| All right, we're back. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| But the reality is we have, you know, we got this home stretch to get through and wanted to keep my focus on point. | ||
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You know what I'm saying? | |
| You didn't want a third hour like Alex Jones. | ||
| You didn't want to bring up the fake energy. | ||
| Well, and also I didn't want to be like sometimes when the body is doing things. | ||
| You end up rushing through something and you lose track of the mission at hand, which is discussing things in the proper context as they should be discussed. | ||
| And I don't want to do that. | ||
| Or you could say you had to pee. | ||
| I had to pee. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| So let's get into this, Jordan. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The last hour or so of Alex Jones' show... | ||
| It started with that clip where he's like, I fake most of my anger. | ||
| It started bad. | ||
| It's going to get worse. | ||
| Well, that's where everything got weird. | ||
| Because he's like, run out of guests. | ||
| That Bitcoin guest did not go well. | ||
| No. | ||
| And he's just like, I sometimes can't. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I did go to jail for selling explosives. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's like, I can't fake it sometimes when it gets to this late in the show, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And so that's where it kind of started. | ||
| And he's like, I've read lots of books. | ||
| Don't fucking come to me and say I haven't. | ||
| He got a little defensive about that. | ||
| I'm not bragging, but historians are stupid compared to me. | ||
| Don't step. | ||
| All that. | ||
| Come at the king, best not miss. | ||
| And if you remember, when he was getting into that, he was talking about, like, this is the key. | ||
| But he never got to it. | ||
| They do have the keys, which in my notes I wrote, keys to question mark. | ||
| What do they have the keys to? | ||
| Well, and I told you this isn't going to make sense, and don't worry about it. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Which is a frustrating thing to say to me. | ||
| Well, and here's where we get to it. | ||
| We got long clips, so we're just going to be pausing throughout. | ||
| There's really no edit points throughout these. | ||
| Boy, this is a lot of trouble. | ||
| So let's jump in. | ||
| This clip starts with Alex Jones. | ||
| I think he thinks he's Paul Revere. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| But it's also self-reflective. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| That's a really salient comparison to make because Paul Revere historically is far more celebrated than the female counterpart of Paul Revere, who is far more effective. | ||
| Whose name you don't even remember. | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| You know that trivia, but you don't know. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I don't remember her fucking name because I'm a piece of shit. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| I hate myself. | ||
| I called you out on it, but I don't really know. | ||
| I should know that. | ||
| I do, too. | ||
| I have a tendency to get into the forest instead of just describing it as a forest. | ||
| I have a tendency to start getting into long historical diatribes. | ||
| Well, you are supposed to say the trees somewhere. | ||
| That's what he was looking for. | ||
| But then he's like, I just get into these historical diatribes. | ||
| I tend to get into the forest and I forget to talk about the forest. | ||
| That's not how that goes, but continue. | ||
| Giving evidentiary information out. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Instead of just being Paul Revere, want us by land, to us by sea. | ||
| And here come the Redcoats. | ||
| So he starts riding down the road saying the Redcoats are here. | ||
| He didn't say, I was there and I saw them landing and they were on their horses and they had troops marching with weapons and they had red uniforms with gold buttons and I saw the general behind him, at least 10,000. | ||
| He said to arms to arms, the Redcoats have landed. | ||
| The British are here. | ||
| Why can't I just say that? | ||
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Well... | |
| A lot of reasons? | ||
| Because they will then take what I say and twist it. | ||
| I'm going to say this up front and they're going to ignore it. | ||
| And they're going to lie about what I'm saying because they don't want you to see it. | ||
| So I just want to be clear. | ||
| I am keeping everything in, including Alex saying that people who are going to cover this are going to take it out of context and twist it. | ||
| I promise you, Alex, I hate you, and I respect you enough not to do that. | ||
| So, to begin, here is what he has said. | ||
| Instead of giving specifics... | ||
| Historical evidence, diatribe. | ||
| I should shout... | ||
| Unverifiable nonsense. | ||
| Well, that's actually kind of... | ||
| That's exactly what he said. | ||
| But in terms of that as a self-assessment, if this was therapy, I'd be like, well, the problem is solved. | ||
| You do just yell unverifiable stuff. | ||
| Which he's going to continue to do, but in a very ugly, ugly way. | ||
| This is very ugly. | ||
| I can't stress this enough. | ||
| We'll have some fun with it, but this is so ugly. | ||
| I don't trust you anymore. | ||
| And I know you as an audience see it. | ||
| But I'm talking about the general public. | ||
| It's in the white papers. | ||
| It's in the text. | ||
| Now they're saying it in the news. | ||
| That in the 50s and 60s, the decision was made that there was overpopulation. | ||
| They were going to adopt eugenics-based ideas of chemicals in the food, in the water, to lower fertility, to lower IQ, to make the general public more manageable. | ||
| And that's in Ecoscience, written by the White House science czar of Obama. | ||
| Holdren in 1974. | ||
| He wrote that. | ||
| He was a giant star decades later. | ||
| Alex has not read this whole book. | ||
| I have read most of it, and I've read the relevant passages that he's talking about in great detail. | ||
| I've read the surrounding text, the contextual pieces of it. | ||
| This is a textbook about eco-science. | ||
| They don't advocate for putting anything in the water. | ||
| They don't advocate for... | ||
| Eugenics? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Not in any extreme way, especially, you know, 1974 style. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which, eugenics wasn't really even all that popular in 1974. | ||
| Well, because when you look... | ||
| No, I mean, if he's describing the 50s and 60s, eugenics was pretty popular. | ||
| Or even before that, in the 20s. | ||
| Yeah, if he was going to talk about the 30s, dude, eugenics was the deal. | ||
| Right, it was a little bit different than our understanding of eugenics. | ||
| Still not great, but... | ||
| Much different than the Hitlerian version of eugenics. | ||
| There's a difference between racial eugenics and strictly scientific eugenics. | ||
| Neither is great, but there's a thin line. | ||
| There's a conversation to be had, but it's important to note again... | ||
| That Hitler's eugenics was begun and derived from American eugenics. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of that. | ||
| But I have read most of John P. Holdren's eco-science textbook. | ||
| It's like a thousand something pages long. | ||
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Too long. | |
| I fucking love it. | ||
| I think it's great. | ||
| It taught me a lot about geology. | ||
| It taught me a lot about water distribution patterns. | ||
| There's a ton of really great things to learn it because it's a fucking textbook. | ||
| It's not a white paper in some way. | ||
| It was a textbook about ecological science. | ||
| The paper it was written on was beige. | ||
| Alex is taking so much of this out of context. | ||
| We'll get into much greater detail about this in the Endgame documentary because he brings that up and we'll get into it. | ||
| But just suffice it to say he's completely lying about that. | ||
| This idea of depopulation even is based on a whole bunch of misrepresented things that Kissinger wrote back in the 70s. | ||
| Again, it comes back to this difference between prescriptive and... | ||
| Also, it's hard to out-evil Kissinger. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You can criticize Kissinger on his own merits. | ||
| You don't need to put him in a weird... | ||
| A situation beyond what the bullshit he wrote was. | ||
| Well, it comes back to that whole thing where I'm like, I don't want to be defending George Soros. | ||
| He's a fucking billionaire weirdo. | ||
| I don't want to do that, but he is not a Nazi collaborator in the sense that you are describing him, Alex. | ||
| That is unfair. | ||
| In the same way, fucking Kissinger is a monster. | ||
| But the way Alex describes him in terms of advocating for 80% of the population to be killed is absolutely not true. | ||
| It's a misreading of things that he wrote because Alex is still reading. | ||
| Which is weird because you might actually be able to make a good argument for Kissinger being a Nazi collaborator. | ||
| Like, that's a strange... | ||
| Probably better than Soros. | ||
| Oh, way better than Soros. | ||
| I mean, the number of genocides that Kissinger had his hands in. | ||
| Anyways. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See, I'm already getting into the evidence. | ||
| Instead of just giving you the general announcement, then I can get into the evidence. | ||
| You can research the evidence for yourself, because don't you want to research the evidence, which is bigger than I can even describe? | ||
| Bigger than I even know. | ||
| There's always endless reams of evidence. | ||
| It's so gargantuan that it's like standing on Kona, the big island in Hawaii, beautiful island chain. | ||
| Hawaii is the big island. | ||
| Most remote in the world, insane. | ||
| Kona's a city. | ||
| I grew up in Hawaii. | ||
| I lived on Oahu, the city of Honolulu. | ||
| Spent a lot of time on the islands. | ||
| It was a good time. | ||
| How you doing? | ||
| How you doing, Dan? | ||
| Hawaii is called The Big Island. | ||
| That's its nickname. | ||
| This entire episode has been you waiting to say that. | ||
| No. | ||
| Actually, when I was editing clips, I didn't even... | ||
| You didn't even recognize that? | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| But it's fun because this is an example of Alex. | ||
| He started the clip about being like, I just get into the weeds about stuff. | ||
| I talk about historical evidence and all the minutia instead of just being Paul Revere yelling the British are coming. | ||
| And now he's getting into the weeds. | ||
| But it's not historical evidence or any factual truth. | ||
| It's just him rambling. | ||
| It's just him saying things. | ||
| Also that aren't true. | ||
| Like Paul Revere. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Best Oswald donkey, you grew up in Honolulu, too? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Did you go to a Li 'i Alani elementary school? | ||
| Also, how old are you? | ||
| I'm 33. Did we go to elementary school together? | ||
| This is getting weird. | ||
| Let's get back to the clip. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Prove to me there's a Pacific Ocean. | ||
| And I just look at you and I say, well, I was brought up in the 20th century and the 21st century, and we have satellites, and I flew here, and it's real and exists, and we call it Pacific Ocean, and here's the history of it, and it's the largest ocean of 76% of our landmass covered by saltwater, 1% fresh water, not counting aquifers, 2% below ground, and aggregate scans may have been up to 5%. | ||
| It's almost 82% by water and geographical coverage on the surface landmass. | ||
| But if you actually look at it like the skin of an apple, it's the whole atmosphere. | ||
| Our entire ecosystem is only... | ||
| It's rambly nonsense. | ||
| Shut up! | ||
| And he's just listing off numbers and shit like that. | ||
| But, like, also, I don't know what Red Hill Elementary is. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I went to Ali 'i Lani fighting a lion eye. | ||
| No, lion eye is Illinois. | ||
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I don't. | |
| Ali 'is. | ||
| Anyway, who cares? | ||
| He said that 80-something percent is water. | ||
| 78%. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| But the larger point of this nonsense. | ||
| Anyone can ramble off numbers and disconnected facts. | ||
| It is the essential truth of any school that yes, you can memorize facts. | ||
| That does not matter anywhere near as much. | ||
| It's comprehending the meaning. | ||
| Do you understand when in your life It's most important scholastically to rattle off facts. | ||
| Ooh, boy. | ||
| Second, third grade? | ||
| Second and third grade? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a round one. | ||
| That's most important. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| A very thin, small area that we cohabitate upon on this third rock out from the standard yellow sun, two-thirds of the way out of the spiral arm in the Milky Way galaxy in deep space. | ||
| I mean, again, knowledge is just endless. | ||
| You can always blast out from any point and have unbelievable... | ||
| Compendiums and reams of information. | ||
| But here's the bottom line. | ||
| There is a biological, cultural, mathematical, systematic attack to make having children and to make having families and to make building human societies and cultures impossible. | ||
| from the taxes to the regulations to the work weeks to the travel to the chemicals and the biologicals to the propaganda to the medicalized tyranny to the brainwashing to startup These are just words. | ||
| He's just saying words. | ||
| But he knows that his audience is going to be triggered by various words. | ||
| So you have the medical tyranny. | ||
| And everybody's picking their own word to be triggered by it. | ||
| And then he gets to just jump on whatever people give the most response. | ||
| The medical tyranny becomes vaccines. | ||
| The propaganda becomes feminism. | ||
| You know, whatever. | ||
| It's all just like... | ||
| But before we dig into that, shout out to John Lithgow. | ||
| Choose your... | ||
| what? | ||
| Third rock from the sun. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| From the standard yellow sun. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Yeah, it's choose your... | ||
| Standard yellow sun? | ||
|
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As if that... | |
| What? | ||
| What? | ||
| No! | ||
| Refuse! | ||
| You refuse? | ||
| Refuse! | ||
| Standard? | ||
| Standard. | ||
| Standard yellow sun. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Give me a scientist that says standard yellow sun. | ||
| Maybe Lord Christopher Monckton? | ||
| That doesn't even make any fucking sense! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not like the yellow sun is the most common type of star. | ||
| No, but you know why? | ||
| That's not a thing! | ||
| Do you know why he says that? | ||
| Because he's a fucking moron! | ||
| What color is the sun on Krypton? | ||
| Uh, I have no idea. | ||
| Isn't it red? | ||
| The red sun of Krypton? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Is it a Superman? | ||
| Is it a red giant? | ||
| The whole thing with Krypton is... | ||
| Oh, that sounds like... | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| I think that Alex... | ||
| I'm not a Superman guy. | ||
| I don't like overpowered... | ||
| Listen, the reason I'm bringing this up is I think that Alex is basing that sort of idea of the standard yellow sun on the idea of comic books. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And stuff like that. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| I mean, who fucking knows? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway... | ||
| You're right, though. | ||
| The bigger point is that he's just rattling off all of these reasons why having a family is impossible. | ||
| It's a smorgasbord. | ||
| It's a buffet. | ||
| He is the old-town buffet of... | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| But even when some of those examples that he's giving are literal, like, counter-examples to his point. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, taxes. | ||
| There's tax breaks for having children. | ||
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Right. | |
| So, like, it's not... | ||
| It doesn't work. | ||
| Like, some of the examples along the way are vague and clearly trying to speak, I gotcha. | ||
| And some of the other ones are like, nope. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| Got confirmation. | ||
| Sun on Krypton's red. | ||
| I can move on now. | ||
| A, the N-word. | ||
| With your life. | ||
| Sounds totally reasonable. | ||
| I don't say it, was brought about to say it. | ||
| I'm going to scroll this back because I don't think you heard the context there. | ||
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Yeah, I missed that a little bit. | |
| ...to the medicalized tyranny, to the brainwashing, to start out with don't say the N-word. | ||
| Sounds totally reasonable. | ||
| I don't say it, was brought about to say it. | ||
| Don't believe it. | ||
| Because I'm a good guy. | ||
| I like to look down on somebody to feel big. | ||
| You're not. | ||
| A lot of those folks you're looking down on are better than you at many things. | ||
| So why would I join that culture? | ||
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Hmm. | |
| And then it's, we're going to ban Nazis. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Neighbors. | ||
| Well, now you're a Nazi. | ||
| Oh, I'm banned now. | ||
| You just called me one. | ||
| It didn't matter. | ||
| You are a Nazi! | ||
| So, the FCC has, like, seven, eight words you're not supposed to say on radio. | ||
| Carlin. | ||
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Ha ha. | |
| Uh, what? | ||
| Fuck shit, piss cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker tits? | ||
| Classic bit. | ||
| I think that's the one. | ||
| Did you know that Alex once interviewed George Carlin? | ||
| Tell me. | ||
| Do you not remember? | ||
| Tell me that you have audio. | ||
| We've covered this on the show. | ||
| We have not. | ||
| He didn't interview him. | ||
| One of his reporters went to a book signing and tried to ask him a question at the book signing. | ||
| You did not frame it the correct way. | ||
| No, he says that he interviewed him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Now I get it. | ||
| So there's those seven words. | ||
| You're not supposed to say the N-word. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And then now Nazis are banned, which apparently they're not. | ||
| They're very not banned. | ||
| They're frustratingly not banned. | ||
| It just turns out that most people are really cool with you punching them. | ||
| That's really all it is. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| The word tranny, which was created 20-something years ago by people in that community that want to identify as women. | ||
| And like men, like women, you name it, and want to do that. | ||
| Do I hate those people? | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| Did I ever say I hated them? | ||
| No. | ||
| And it's not like they beat me over the head until I said I wasn't against it. | ||
| A lot of it's destructive lifestyle, heavy suicide, big problems. | ||
| But I'm not even judging. | ||
| Might as well just take a break there. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Decompress that. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's their fault. | ||
| For their lifestyle. | ||
| Definitely has nothing to... | ||
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Fuck you! | |
| Well, I mean, it's the same rhetoric that was used against the gay community in the early days of that. | ||
| It's your fault. | ||
| I mean, look, if you want to say, like, hey, you can't say this word, they came up with that word. | ||
| I mean, the list is long of words created by communities that have been... | ||
| Co-opted and used as slurs. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And whose fault is that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Probably very open-minded people like Alex. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I'm judging those people who are human beings. | ||
| I don't hate them. | ||
| I don't need to feel like they're bad and they have problems and I'm this big moral guy when I certainly am not perfect. | ||
| You call them globalists. | ||
| I'm probably more wicked than they are in some respects. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| You see that as wicked. | ||
| But you look at that word. | ||
| We got a call last year and we... | ||
| Recorded the vice president. | ||
| So Alex is claiming here that the vice president, you just heard it right there, the vice president of Facebook called him and he recorded the call. | ||
| And the guy said, he's going to explain what he said. | ||
| And he's talked about this a bunch of times, so it's not totally new news. | ||
| It's like, you can't say that T-word. | ||
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You can say anything else, baby, but we'll ban you if you say that T-word. | |
| Don't do it. | ||
| That doesn't sound true at all. | ||
| I don't believe it for a second. | ||
| It's absolutely untrue. | ||
| I have left Facebook for nigh on a year now, and it has been a delight. | ||
| I've seen a lot of people post that word. | ||
| But yeah. | ||
| And I've seen a lot of people post a lot worse. | ||
| Before I was gone, that was definitely there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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A lot of people weren't banned for that word. | |
| It's categorical nonsense. | ||
| And frankly, you know what? | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| RuPaul uses that word on her Facebook page. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Like, it doesn't matter. | ||
| Super complicated. | ||
| But the one that you and I... | ||
| Do not have standing on. | ||
|
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No. | |
| Is the best way of putting that. | ||
| The other thing that I want to take out of this, too, though, is that, like, I have a standing position that whenever Alex says he has footage of something and he doesn't produce it, I don't believe it. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Because he does this all the time. | ||
| He said he had hours of footage of Megyn Kelly sucking up to him and all this and proof that she's a liar. | ||
| And then as soon as the interview came out and it wasn't that damaging, eh. | ||
| Never released all that footage. | ||
| Never needed to talk about it again. | ||
| He constantly talks about how he has hours and hours of footage of Antifa beating up women at these Trump rallies. | ||
| And all that he plays are these wildly innocuous videos of someone maybe pushing a mic out of their face. | ||
| You're like, hey, you didn't need to hit that mic, but you did. | ||
| Certainly not an assault. | ||
| Certainly not extreme. | ||
| But he's like, we've got hours and hours of this footage. | ||
| Never produced. | ||
| So the idea that the vice president of Facebook called him, he recorded the call, it's not true. | ||
| It's absolutely not true until proven otherwise. | ||
| Well, I think that is indicative of one of my largest issues with so much of media attention and the like, is that... | ||
| Well, it's not... | ||
| Abject, proven, consistent liars? | ||
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Right. | |
| It's not that they shouldn't exist, or that they... | ||
| Like, it's that we should be able to learn from that. | ||
| Like, once you become... | ||
| We are. | ||
| Once you become an untrustworthy source, you should not be consulted. | ||
| And your opinion should be... | ||
| Devalued. | ||
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Right. | |
| And that goes for people in the mainstream, too. | ||
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Right. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| Anytime Paul Ryan speaks, everybody should just be like, no. | ||
| You're not trustworthy. | ||
| Or Peter Jennings. | ||
| So you're done. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Is that Peter Jennings? | ||
| Is that who I'm thinking of? | ||
| No. | ||
| Who's that guy who's on 30 Rock? | ||
| That guy who's real fun on 30 Rock. | ||
| That news anchor who lied a bunch. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Brian Williams. | ||
| Brian Williams. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| These boring ass names. | ||
| Peter Jennings. | ||
| Peter Jennings is old school. | ||
| I think you're thinking of Ken Jennings, the Jeopardy champion. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| Because he does not lie, sir. | ||
| His credibility is still intact as far as I know. | ||
| No, I feel like there's so many times where we keep seeing people who have been... | ||
| If you're a fucking liar that we have proved to have lied multiple times, then you're done. | ||
| No one should listen to you anymore. | ||
| Let me inject one more variable into this. | ||
| I believe it comes down to faith. | ||
| If you are a good faith liar... | ||
| Like someone who has lied in good faith. | ||
| Like you accidentally reported a story that wasn't true. | ||
| Like you're in Anchor and there's a story that comes up and you report it. | ||
| Turns out it's not true. | ||
| And then there's a correction that's released and all of that. | ||
| I'm talking about consistent behavior. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| That's bad faith lying. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That is intent. | ||
| That is really what it comes down to. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| And that's what Alex does. | ||
| That's what Cernovich does. | ||
| That's what all these assholes do. | ||
| It's bad faith. | ||
| It comes down to this Kantian idea of the only thing that's good in life is a good will. | ||
| And they have a bad will. | ||
| They wish bad. | ||
| Anytime you see an oil... | ||
| Lobbyists show up on a fucking show to talk about climate change. | ||
| It's like, no, you're not allowed here. | ||
| Because you're a liar. | ||
| It's been proven. | ||
| You're done. | ||
| There's no both sides. | ||
| There's no opinion. | ||
| Spoiler alert. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| I've just done a bunch of research into Alex Jones' climate science guy, Lord Moncton. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Well, yeah, but that one was not hard. | ||
| It turns out he works for an organization that's gotten tons of money from Exxon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Spoiler alert. | ||
| Real fun. | ||
| No, a cursory Google search should prove that... | ||
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It took me three Google searches, to be fair. | |
| Had to find the organization, the think tech he works for. | ||
| You wanted to be thorough. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I mean, what it really comes down to, and this is something that we talk about sort of vaguely all the time. | ||
| I think it's really spiritually what we're talking about, and that is that a lot of people are going to lie to you or lie to you accidentally, and it's your civic responsibility to understand what you're hearing. | ||
| We unfortunately live in an era now where there's enough people with bad will and bad faith who are operating, running around and pretending. | ||
| Because the internet is such that you can create a real good official looking website and lie all day on it. | ||
| Or you can be someone who has enough juice on Twitter or something like that and you can get invited on CNN or some of the shows to talk. | ||
| It's no longer a place where you can trust the public discourse as a rooting in reality. | ||
| You have to look. | ||
| You have to check. | ||
| I don't think that that is a new phenomenon. | ||
| I think it is. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| I think the echo chamber is much larger now, and it's got a farther reach. | ||
| But if you go back through history, liars abound. | ||
| Liars abounded, but generally speaking, I think... | ||
| I think things were a little stricter before. | ||
| Disagree. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But also, back then, there were other problems with, like, you know, we'll just never tell certain stories. | ||
| Malaria? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| We'll never tell certain stories. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| So you have, like, three news channels, and none of them would cover something very important to... | ||
| Or you have your, like, we won't allow the... | ||
| Like, when LBJ refused to... | ||
| Because of political reasons. | ||
| What was the quote? | ||
| Like, we can't put this out because it would undermine people's faith in the government so much that it would be destructive. | ||
| Like, all of these different lies. | ||
| Or, you know, Nixon kept the Vietnam War going by fucking negotiating secret anti-peace treaties. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| In order to make sure that he could be re-elected. | ||
| And Iran-Contra happened. | ||
| Thousands upon thousands of people died just so Nixon could get re-elected. | ||
| Speaking of which, Larry Nichols hasn't been on the show lately. | ||
| I haven't heard from him in a really long time. | ||
| I wonder if he's dead. | ||
| Oh, but he doesn't really have cancer. | ||
| I know, but he's still fucking old as shit. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He certainly doesn't seem healthy, even if he doesn't have cancer. | ||
| He still might have cancer. | ||
| Is this our Abe Vigoda situation? | ||
| Do we need a timer of, like, is Abe Vigoda dead? | ||
| If there is a fish, if there's the fish of Knowledge Fight, it's fucking Larry Nichols. | ||
| We should call him. | ||
| I mean, not now. | ||
| It's pretty late. | ||
| No. | ||
| Call him. | ||
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No. | |
| We've had four beers. | ||
| Now's the time to call Larry Nichols. | ||
| Larry! | ||
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Hey! | |
| Anyway, let's get back to this clip. | ||
| Facebook, Twitter, and they said, listen, you can stay on, but there's one thing, we're going to put this report out soon, there's one thing you can't say, and that's tranny. | ||
| Now, there's so much to that, and I said, well, that's a term created by that community. | ||
| Well, Facebook and Twitter judged in 2017 that it's a hate word, so it's gone. | ||
| See, and once you accept that you can't say the new N-word, The N-word is still another word. | ||
| But why did they choose that word? | ||
| So here's the problem that I have with that logic. | ||
| What do you mean, why did they choose that word? | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| That, to me, is less interesting than the flaw in Alex's logic of, like, Alex, just start shouting the N-word. | ||
| Why not, you pussy? | ||
| If you are like, no, it's a free speech issue, why are you even saying, quote, the N-word? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| What is your fucking problem? | ||
| Right. | ||
| You say the T because you know your audience doesn't give a shit about them. | ||
| Your audience isn't going to be offended by that. | ||
| They think they're weird. | ||
| Yeah, but he's going to get a lot of press from saying that. | ||
| There was an article in Right Wing Watch, but it only covered a slight portion of this entire rant. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It only covered the part... | ||
| We'll get to it. | ||
| No, I mean, it's the old John Mulaney joke of writing for an award show, and they're like, okay, you can't say midget. | ||
| It's the N-word. | ||
| And he's like, well, one word we're saying, and the other word we're not. | ||
| So it's not as bad. | ||
| You know, like that kind of thing. | ||
| And it's not... | ||
| Like, I'm not endorsing... | ||
| It's their N-word. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's like, I'm not saying that these words are acceptable or good labels. | ||
| Let me throw this out. | ||
| All of them aren't good. | ||
| It's not good! | ||
| Maybe don't be a dick about it. | ||
| I really, really, like, I don't understand where it comes into, like... | ||
| This becomes such a problem for me, and it's not just because I'm a supporter of trans rights. | ||
| That's secondary to just the idea of, like, this is a free speech issue. | ||
| Why can't I say things that people don't want to be called? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was like, well, I mean, like, you know, like, if I didn't know you and I just screamed shithead at you on the street or something like that, you probably generally don't like being called a shithead. | ||
| I'd be an asshole for saying that to you. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Take any of the identifiers out of it, and it's all just, like, just stop. | ||
| So much of these conversations can be boiled down to, don't be a dick. | ||
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| You know? | ||
| Which is apparently, according to CaliGirl90 in the chat room, a real big fish song. | ||
| Which I'm a huge fan of. | ||
| I love your ska band shout out. | ||
| No, but totally. | ||
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It is. | |
| It is. | ||
| It is just like B. A fucking courteous human being who's hearing what people say. | ||
| And I know, Alex, that you are hearing it because you say the N-word and don't drop a hard R on the show. | ||
| You know that your funding and all this isn't going to dry up if you drop an N-bomb on the show. | ||
| You know that. | ||
| You know that your funding doesn't depend on that. | ||
| If you really gave a shit, you'd just be throwing the N-word around like crazy. | ||
| And that to me means that your principle is flawed. | ||
| Your idea is stupid. | ||
| Yeah, but keep digging. | ||
| Because it's trans. | ||
| It has nothing to do with men that want to be women or women that want to be men and all the rest of it. | ||
| It's once they get you... | ||
| Yeah, they called the police on people that said tranny on the radio. | ||
| That's Daily Caller. | ||
| This was an article about a student radio thing where there were some students on the radio and they were offended and called the police on it. | ||
| I don't really... | ||
| I don't think that's necessarily the appropriate response, but also I think that student radio, especially in college, is a murky territory in terms of FCC laws. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Don't have a dog in that fight. | ||
| Don't care. | ||
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But anyway, hold on. | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| Here's the big thing that he just said that I think is one of the most important things To tackle in regards to... | ||
| This is exciting. | ||
| In regards to this conversation. | ||
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It's one of those important things? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| The idea of trans people want to be a man. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Or want to be a woman. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| That is not the case. | ||
| That is like saying that gay people want to be gay. | ||
| They just want it. | ||
| And it is not a... | ||
| They just want it. | ||
| Want gives you such a connotation of like... | ||
| I am choosing this because I desire it and not because this is part of my identity. | ||
| This is part of who I am. | ||
| It's like saying, I want to be straight. | ||
| I have no desire towards that. | ||
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That is just part of who I am. | |
| I've never considered it. | ||
| I mean, I've considered. | ||
| I was waiting for that shoe to drop. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, of course. | |
| But that's a different conversation. | ||
| That might have been the funniest thing that's ever happened on this podcast. | ||
| I think I lost a cigarette because of it. | ||
| It's right next to your... | ||
| Oh, Jesus, my foot. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Stupid foot. | ||
| It's down right there. | ||
|
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Oh, boy. | |
| Man, great podcast. | ||
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Good pod, good pod. | |
| Yeah, no, totally, totally. | ||
| The idea of your desires and your orientation being equivalent are very different because, I mean, history has shown, studies have shown that the idea of trying to change your orientation is a road of peril. | ||
| It's a road that never really does anything but create more shame and usually more internal anguish. | ||
| If you want to take this, because Alex is going to eventually... | ||
| I don't think he does in this episode, but he always does do the dumb... | ||
| I think he actually does. | ||
| I'm going to hold off on this, because I think he gets into the biological stuff later. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| We can deal with that then. | ||
| To me, it is the fundamental issue with that kind of acceptance of different ideas of life is... | ||
| You are like me. | ||
| So if you are not acting like me, then you are desiring something that I find to be morally objectionable. | ||
| Or questionable. | ||
| Yeah, and so it is not something that you can accept as, you are not like me, and so you are you. | ||
| It's a projection that is such at the heart of all of this. | ||
| Prejudice and all of this hate. | ||
| Well, there's all this stupid idea. | ||
| This is something that I don't... | ||
| It's like saying, you know what? | ||
| These black people just don't want to be white. | ||
| They want to be black. | ||
| Instead of it being something that is part of who you are. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It is like you can desire yourself out of something that you are. | ||
| Which I think is bullshit. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And there's a secondary aspect to this that Alex is really, I think really the core of what he's talking about is this idea of like, they're trying to shut down the language, they're trying to shut down the ability of men and women to exist, all this. | ||
| And that's what he's, he's going to dig into that a little bit. | ||
| And one of the things that has never charmed me about that argument is that like, if you look at the reality of stuff, no one is ever really shutting down language. | ||
| They're expanding language. | ||
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Right. | |
| The reality of, you know, back in the day when America was great. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Don't even say those words. | ||
| In the 50s. | ||
| Don't even like it. | ||
| You had straight people and the queers. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In the 50s. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Back when America was great. | ||
| I'm going to let you continue? | ||
| I'm being satirical. | ||
| I get it. | ||
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Satire! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You had that dichotomy back then. | ||
| And there were a bunch of people who didn't fit into that dichotomy, and they were limited. | ||
| But the major prevailing people in society, most people didn't give a shit. | ||
| And eventually those people forced a conversation, and the language got expanded. | ||
| And it didn't hurt the larger portion of population that are heterosexual, cisgender, any of those sorts of designations. | ||
| It doesn't hurt them at all. | ||
| All it does is expand what people... | ||
| identification are because back then there was heterosexual and the negative everybody else right yeah and it was it was not a straight dichotomy because back then there were people who were like well i'm not really what these people think i am the queer right i'm i'm bisexual or i'm You know, there's a whole spectrum of things. | ||
| And as time went on, the language expanded. | ||
| And so Alex's arguments about this idea of, like, it closes off language and all this stuff, I think exactly the opposite. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| I think all it does is expand language. | ||
| And it expands our understanding of how people experience life. | ||
| And I think that's a fucking amazing, beautiful thing. | ||
| And it makes me so mad. | ||
| The word diversity does not shut down... | ||
| It expands it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's exactly the point. | ||
| It's a tragedy that he has a feeling... | ||
| Well, I mean, you know... | ||
| So much of him is a tragedy. | ||
| But the tragedy is that he believes a thing that's so counter to what the people on the other side that he's against are actually saying. | ||
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Right. | |
| And actually believe. | ||
| But in order to hate something that is eminently reasonable, You have to take an illogical and stupid approach to it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or you have to have a vested interest in that. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And, I mean, who knows what that might be. | ||
| But, be there as it may, let's go back to the clip and see if we can find some more fucking stupid shit. | ||
| Fortified racist supply. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| They arrest you in California if you say that. | ||
| Once they say that, now... | ||
| So, real quick, what he's talking about there, they arrest you in California. | ||
| There's a law that's on the books. | ||
| And it is about consistent misgendering of people. | ||
| We've talked about that before. | ||
| We have. | ||
| But just to bring it back, it's more about harassment in the workplace. | ||
| It is not about like, hey, you accidentally call someone by the wrong pronoun. | ||
| You're going to the clink or anything like that. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| It's absolute nonsense. | ||
| Now, transhumanism, if you study eugenics, in 19... | ||
| In 1949, they voted at the World Eugenics Society to call themselves transhumanist because Hitler and their funding of Hitler had made it look bad. | ||
| So Julian Huxley, Brother Alice Huxley, all that Brave New World stuff right about the early 30s. | ||
| This is a... | ||
| Rampant misrepresentation of all this. | ||
| A lot of this will also... | ||
| I hate to keep saying this. | ||
| A lot of this will be covered in the Endgame documentary in much fuller detail. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Suffice it to say, for now, he's fucking lying. | ||
| Although there is a connection between the early eugenics movement. | ||
| It was not necessarily a racist eugenics movement that became a transhumanist movement. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that is... | ||
| Not at all involved in transgender issues, but because the prefix is the same, Alex gets very confused. | ||
| Literally everything. | ||
| Transport? | ||
| That's what... | ||
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We gotta walk everywhere. | |
| Dude, that's what they do. | ||
| We gotta walk everywhere. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| They said, how did you know this? | ||
| Well, it's the plan. | ||
| Now you see it happen. | ||
| His brother said, we've been embarrassed, so now we're going to be transhumanists. | ||
| We're going to improve humans. | ||
| Well, that's sure right if you think it's improvement, but what it means is take control governmentally of human development through chemicals, through biologicals, through culture, through brainwashing, through media, through education. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| This is all our own admission. | ||
| This isn't my opinion. | ||
| This is them, remember, saying all this. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| But also, what Alex did right there is, like, this triggers me to no extent, but... | ||
| I don't show anger really much at all. | ||
| I mostly laugh at things that make me mad. | ||
| But I've noticed that assholes, when they're talking, in the middle of their sentences, they say, okay. | ||
| They do that. | ||
| They say, okay. | ||
| In the middle of things, as if to say like, oh my god, do I say that? | ||
| No. | ||
| Now I'm terrified. | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm terrified of all of my tics. | ||
| I would have punched you by now if you did. | ||
| So many tics now that I'm trying to go back through and like, oh shit, does that one mean... | ||
| Like, I know I'm an asshole, I just don't want any of... | ||
| Oh, you're a total asshole. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, no, the standard, like that, okay, is like a rhetorical thing that people who have nothing do. | ||
| In the middle of sentences, in order to be like... | ||
| Get on the fucking board. | ||
| Get on board, idiot. | ||
| You don't know what I'm talking about. | ||
| I'm making a point here. | ||
| It's one of the weakest things in the world. | ||
| One of the best examples of it. | ||
| We talked about this press conference on our live show. | ||
| The Larry Sinclair press conference. | ||
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It's full of him saying, okay? | |
| Like, trying to explain away his crimes in the past. | ||
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Well, look, it was ten years in the past. | |
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Now that I made that connection, like, Sarah Huckabee Sanders does that shit all the time. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| It's a condescension trick. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's a rhetorical condescension trick. | ||
| Also, spoiler alert, after we did that live show, I did a little more looking into Larry Sinclair. | ||
| Turns out, one of his big donations... | ||
| Came anonymously from Sarah Huckabee Sanders. | ||
| No, she wasn't alive. | ||
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Someone in Minnesota in gold. | |
| Oh. | ||
| You know who sells gold? | ||
| Jesse Ventura. | ||
| No. | ||
| Ted Anderson. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| And he's based in Minnesota. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There's a decent chance that Ted Anderson. | ||
| Same guy. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Ted Anderson and... | ||
| Reverend Manning might have been invited. | ||
| Anyway, who cares? | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Fuck Larry Nichols. | ||
| We've got to find Ted Anderson. | ||
| I don't think he'd ever talk to us. | ||
| Oh, I bet he would. | ||
| He's probably bored. | ||
| He's a rich man. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Next episode, we'll give him a call. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If you're a radio listener, the crew's just randomly searching what I say and just finding articles that say it. | ||
| That's great news sourcing. | ||
| It's not true. | ||
| The crew is randomly Googling after I say bullshit. | ||
| It's not true. | ||
| They're just showing like whatever flashes up on the document cam is just like a Wikipedia article or some like eventually he's going to get into the Tavistock Institute and it'll just be their homepage. | ||
| It doesn't prove anything. | ||
| It just is like, oh, look at this. | ||
| It's them saying. | ||
| So once they get you to say, hey. | ||
| Don't even say a word that has to be with transitional. | ||
| Don't even discuss human evolution. | ||
| Whether it's self-directed, because that's a very human trait, is to self-direct what you want to be, your environment, who you want to be, how long you want to live, what you want to do. | ||
| It is a very human thing to be a man and to say, I want to be a woman, or to be a woman and say, I want to be a man. | ||
| I wish that that was all he said. | ||
| I'm not saying that's the human thing or a good human thing. | ||
| I'm saying it's very human to say, I want to be something different. | ||
| I want to build something. | ||
| I want to change myself. | ||
| That's what we do. | ||
| We control our environment. | ||
| We're the only species that does it. | ||
| And whatever we envision, we can end up building. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| At all. | ||
| Beavers make dams. | ||
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Like, fucking... | |
| Ants. | ||
| Like, just, let's... | ||
| Ants. | ||
| Rats. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, a rat king changes their environment. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| They turn into a bundle of rats. | ||
| If there's one thing I know about rats, it's rat kings. | ||
| This is sad. | ||
| Like, this is, like... | ||
| It's so... | ||
| It's such tunnel vision about, like, the totality of human experience. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And animal experience, you know? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Even, like, gophers make holes and stuff like that. | ||
| There's a lot of animals that, now that I'm thinking about it, change their environment drastically. | ||
| Pretty much a lot of them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But once they get you to accept that, then they can go into the schools, they can tell your children you confuse their sex, they can brainwash them for an agenda where they want to be 50 different things. | ||
| And I made the point. | ||
| There's these shows on History and Discovery. | ||
| I don't even watch much TV, and I see people who love their cars and marry them. | ||
| This woman loves her blender. | ||
| And I'm like, that's just crazy. | ||
| It's a fetish. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| I don't hate that person. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They're spreading disease, having sex with the VFW's tailpipe. | ||
| And the headline is, Alex Jones says gay men are going to rape your car. | ||
| Vaccines! | ||
| All over the news. | ||
| Didn't say that. | ||
| But see, once they say, don't criticize gay men, don't criticize trans. | ||
| Then they can say, don't criticize people that have four parents and aren't really people. | ||
| Because they're not. | ||
| They're something new. | ||
| Don't say you're a person. | ||
| See, there's another key to understand all this. | ||
| Take zoological experiments. | ||
| Humans have rights, animals have rights, but all these transhuman zoological experiments, they have classified they've done for 40 years. | ||
| They declassified it 20 years ago that they'd done it 20 years before. | ||
| So 40 years of human-animal hybrids, human-human hybrids, you know, five genetics of men, women, all of it. | ||
| It's been artificially made. | ||
| Human-human hybrids are called children. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Artificially made. | ||
| And now, if you discuss... | ||
| That it's artificially made or what is it or does it have rights? | ||
| You're done. | ||
| You're gone. | ||
| You're bad. | ||
| You're a hate monger. | ||
| And that's why this is a critical area. | ||
| They said, how do we get them to accept men becoming women and women becoming men? | ||
| Because once they do that, they'll accept the brain chips, all of it, splicing with animals, people that really aren't people, humanoids. | ||
| And then that's it. | ||
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This is it. | |
| This is the total mainlining of ending humanity as we know it. | ||
| And it's being force directed at our children. | ||
| It's not a choice to become something new. | ||
| It's being forced. | ||
|
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It's being force directed at our children? | |
| Here's where my issue comes in with Alex's rhetoric about like, I don't hate these people. | ||
| Do you mean specifically talking about trans people? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't hate them. | ||
| Now granted, they're very similar to chimeras. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's destroying the human race. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| All this like... | ||
| I don't hate people. | ||
| You can't use this rhetoric. | ||
| You can't use this rhetoric and this analogy. | ||
| You can't use this level of analogy game and just be like, now, I'm not comparing them, but I'm fucking comparing them. | ||
| It's not okay. | ||
| I think the thing that, like that, I expected. | ||
| I think the thing that triggered me most... | ||
| I furrowed my brow a little there. | ||
| From Alex. | ||
| From Alex. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Come on now. | ||
| It's not that. | ||
| Come on now. | ||
| Well, to be fair, again... | ||
| His feelings regarding trans people, we have documented... | ||
| Exhaustively. | ||
| To be fair, only sponsored posts killing it in the chat tonight with, in quotes, VFW's tailpipe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's the thing that made me so angry, is how dare... | ||
| The veteran of foreign wars tailpipe. | ||
| How dare you say that people are spreading disease? | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| By fucking... | ||
| Zero disease is spread. | ||
| By fucking a car. | ||
| No, that's what he said. | ||
| All the disease is spread by not taking vaccines. | ||
| Or by not using a condom when you fuck a car. | ||
| Well, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, always use a condom. | ||
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You could get tetanus if that tailpipe was rusted. | |
| That's not where tetanus comes from. | ||
| That's what I heard. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| There could be some tetanus truthers out there. | ||
|
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Probably. | |
| But look, like... | ||
| I just, it bums me out, and I know what's to come, and so I don't want to get too... | ||
| Alright, let's get into it then. | ||
| We're at like two and a half hours. | ||
| No, we're not. | ||
| We're like at 2.10. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But also, unfortunately, I have to take another intermission. | ||
|
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Dude! | |
| It will be quick, and I promise you things are about to get really bad. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Hey, we're back. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| You know what happened? | ||
| I turned on interstitial hold music and forgot to plug my phone back in, so there was no beats going for the people in the chat room. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| If anyone is stuck along, we appreciate it so much. | ||
| We have two clips left, and the second clip is I Promise You, Jordan. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Literally a punchline. | ||
| But unfortunately, we got this. | ||
| This next clip. | ||
| So at the end of that last clip, we went to commercial with Alex saying that all this is manufactured, it's all nonsense. | ||
| And the transphobia is strong. | ||
| It's very strong. | ||
| Like Anakin Skywalker, he's Force... | ||
| We've pointed out a number of things that are some of the problems with the thinking. | ||
| And it gets a bit uglier as he comes back from commercial break. | ||
| So this will be a little bit more difficult to deal with, but here we go. | ||
| Alex Jones here, back live. | ||
| There is a... | ||
| Blitzkrieg taking place against the human condition. | ||
| We're being put into an artificial construct for control, for reverse engineering, and then for extermination. | ||
| That is the admissions of the globalists. | ||
| Elon Musk has warned you that they worship AI gods they believe are about to show up on the scene. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| Elon Musk just tweeted about some guy who said he was going to try and create an AI god, and he's like, you're the last person who should do that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Just a dishy comment between people who kind of know each other and probably don't like each other. | ||
| Yeah, that's fine. | ||
| It has nothing to do with the reality of AI gods. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Again, Whitey's on the moon. | ||
| Who demands humanity be exterminated first. | ||
| Now that said, let me quantify this. | ||
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Quantify. | |
| Do it. | ||
| The whole trans movement has nothing to do with homosexual men. | ||
| It has nothing to do with trans people. | ||
| It has to do with attacking language. | ||
| You will not call someone heterosexual or homosexual. | ||
| The very debate about someone's chromosomes and biological preset is illegal. | ||
| So now he was a gay lad. | ||
| It was a gay day. | ||
| That language is expropriated from homosexual to gay. | ||
| Just like no one will say, Caucasoid. | ||
| Caucus Mountains. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| No one will say hawkazoid. | ||
| Alex seems to have, like, what I would describe as a warped understanding of, like... | ||
| Words? | ||
| Well, like, and appropriate language. | ||
| I don't think that there's anything, like, I don't think anyone's offended by homosexual. | ||
| Like, I don't think that's a pejorative term. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Or heterosexual. | ||
| He talks about that, like, being like, oh, I'm gonna say homosexual. | ||
| I'm going to say it. | ||
| I don't think anyone cares. | ||
| I don't think even gay... | ||
| It depends on how you say it. | ||
| I don't like how he says it. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| I don't like him talking about anything. | ||
| But I don't think even gay is bad unless you use it in a you're gay kind of way. | ||
| I don't think gay is... | ||
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It's not specific enough. | |
| That's all. | ||
| It's very similar to Jew. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, you are a Jew. | ||
| But you can also say Jew in a way that is like... | ||
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Are you doing a bit from It's Always Sunny? | |
| It's somebody's bit, isn't it? | ||
| It's from that Always Sunny episode. | ||
| The Hard J. Alright. | ||
| I feel like it was somebody's bit before that. | ||
| Intent does come down into it. | ||
| But also, I want to say this. | ||
| Which is a Patton Oswalt bit about many different... | ||
| I want to say this quite clearly in terms of my perspective. | ||
| Trans movement is not about gay men. | ||
| Yeah, I was totally on board with him the first part. | ||
| Trans movement is not about constricting language. | ||
| It's about fucking people. | ||
| Which is the second part of what he said. | ||
| He said, the trans movement is not about gay people. | ||
| And I was like, yes, you nailed it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because that's a different thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then he said, the trans movement is not about trans people. | ||
| And I was like, you do not understand the trans movement. | ||
| It's kind of about people. | ||
| Again, he thinks it's about this confining language thing, and it's so baffling to me. | ||
| It just comes down to, I think, this same libertarian idea about, like, I hate the Civil Rights Act because I can't say no blacks in my establishment, or something like that. | ||
| But I'm not racist, I just can't say it. | ||
| Well, I don't want to run that business, but someone should be able to. | ||
| It's their right. | ||
| It's this hiding behind... | ||
| If you look at the language of, like... | ||
| D-segregationists and D-integration people. | ||
| People who are against integration. | ||
| They use the same language of like, I don't hate the people, but I don't like the effect that it has on business. | ||
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Right. | |
| Or something like that. | ||
| It's always people couching these beliefs of like, look, I love the people. | ||
| They're fine. | ||
| They're great. | ||
| They should be able to do whatever they want, but... | ||
| It can never be said enough how unpopular Martin Luther King Jr. was. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| People... | ||
| They hated him. | ||
| They killed him. | ||
| They hated him. | ||
| The FBI allowed them to kill him. | ||
| And tons of people would have sooner. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And it's just one of those things where it's like the revision of your history is always going to be... | ||
| No, he was a hero. | ||
| He was the best. | ||
| And it was like, at the time, even people... | ||
| In the civil rights movement, we're like, you're moving too fast. | ||
| It's always going to be the thing. | ||
| Realistically, I think that we have probably a more evolved populace right now than we did back then. | ||
| If you look at the numbers in terms of the people who were active in the civil rights movement then, and people who are on board with a lot of progressive causes now, I think we probably have a better Bulk, better percentage of... | ||
| Oh, I absolutely agree. | ||
| Which is kind of scary to think of because we're not getting that work done. | ||
| Supports my argument that everyone over the age of 45 should be killed immediately. | ||
| What? | ||
| Is that a bad idea? | ||
| It is. | ||
| I had a weird thought about that, but I don't remember what it was, so I'm not going to speak on it. | ||
| I don't like you saying, I had a weird thought about that. | ||
| I had a kernel of something. | ||
| It's for the show, but I can't remember what it was, so let's get back to the clip. | ||
| Has nothing to do with saying bad things about white people, or they want to change the name of Negro Modelo. | ||
| It means black beer. | ||
| Modelo doesn't mean beer. | ||
| Nobody wants to do that. | ||
| You can't use the scientific name for black people. | ||
| It has nothing to do with saying they're bad. | ||
| It's not a scientific name. | ||
| Also, don't say the scientific name for black people. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Is negro the scientific name for black people? | ||
| Well, like it would be, I guess, homo negroes or something like that. | ||
| If he wants to do that. | ||
| See, I don't feel like that's a scientific name. | ||
| Homo sapiens sapiens negrilis. | ||
| I don't know what it would be in Latin. | ||
| Here's what I think it would be. | ||
| Folks? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Just people? | ||
| People. | ||
| In on the front of it. | ||
| Or me. | ||
| So once you can't use the N word, now you can't use in. | ||
| I remember in middle school, people getting upset because they were doing geography and saying, this is Niger. | ||
| Niger sounds like the N-word. | ||
| You see the mental illness? | ||
| But that's what children do. | ||
| They think that Niger sounds like the N-word. | ||
| The adults don't. | ||
| The adults aren't confused. | ||
| Because they're trying to teach geography. | ||
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Right. | |
| And they know geography, and they know all the countries. | ||
| The children are the ones who are like, ha ha ha, that looks like the N-word. | ||
|
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Ha ha ha. | |
| Right. | ||
| Because I remember, I was a kid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so Alex is like, he's projecting that onto adults, and that's not the case. | ||
| All of this is children. | ||
| It's child thoughts. | ||
| Alex is a fucking child. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| Everything in his brain has not evolved since he was seven or eight. | ||
| It's fucking fascinating how this is such a clear line through this episode. | ||
| Even through all this bigotry, all this stupid shit he's saying, it all goes back to the key. | ||
| The key is... | ||
| The keys too. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That they have. | ||
| The key is all of his bullshit about reading. | ||
| When he was younger. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And not understanding. | ||
| The key is, he still doesn't actually know how to read. | ||
| I don't think he does. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And the globalist psychologists are running this, and they want to reduce world population. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Who doesn't? | ||
| So the Tavistock Institute in the 60s. | ||
| Again, he's confusing the Tavistock Institute and the Tavistock climate. | ||
| Still doing Tavistock. | ||
| This is public. | ||
| They're very proud of it. | ||
| Develop the plan for trans-nation, trans-world. | ||
| And once you say to children in the fifth grade, starting, but now in the first grade, you're a girl, you could be a boy. | ||
| You're a boy, you could be a girl. | ||
| Two minutes, you can't say boy or girl because someone else might not be that. | ||
| It hurts them. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| I don't even care. | ||
| I'm past this. | ||
| Look, this is Purple Penguins. | ||
| Let's move on. | ||
| I mean, the reality is, like, if people are giving this sort of influence to children, it's not, hey, boy, you want to be a girl? | ||
| Hey, girl, you want to be a boy? | ||
| It's more like, hey! | ||
| He makes it sound like kids are walking home from school and there's a guy in a trench coat, and he opens up his trench coat, and instead it's like... | ||
| Penises. | ||
| Like, you want one of these? | ||
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It's Slugworth trying to trick you into changing your gender. | |
| It's fucking Slugworth. | ||
| Yeah, it's nonsense. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| I know a number of people who have come up trans. | ||
| I don't even like that that's how I said it. | ||
| But I know a number of trans people, and their experience is very different to this idea of the idea that people made it okay. | ||
| Which is... | ||
| Perhaps the best rebuttal to Alex Jones's argument about language. | ||
| The two of us are... | ||
| We both want very much to be as inclusive as possible. | ||
| We want our language to be as inclusive as possible. | ||
| And we still fuck up. | ||
| Because both of us come from such ingrained backgrounds that a lot of our instinctive language, that we're not constantly evaluating that whenever we're doing a show like this. | ||
| We don't have... | ||
| We're just talking. | ||
| That is not to say that we are not conscious of it or aware of it. | ||
| It is something that we're constantly trying to learn more about. | ||
| And so if you do say something like that, I don't like the way I said, come up trans. | ||
| It is not because you are... | ||
| Which is how it came out of my mouth. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's like I'm... | ||
| I'm trying to accommodate with my language as well as I can because I think it's important. | ||
| And I'm not going to be good at it. | ||
| As I'm framing sentences. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's a situation where I think, I think, I don't know, I have trans friends and all that. | ||
| And my experience is that like... | ||
| No one cares if you fuck up. | ||
| Right! | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Because they're like, no, no, no, we get it. | ||
| You're not a dick. | ||
| Good faith. | ||
| Again, it comes down to the difference between good faith and bad faith. | ||
| Right. | ||
| People only really get mad if you have bad faith. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It comes down to the exact same thing we were talking about earlier with the hard J, with your stolen bit from... | ||
| It's always sunny. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
|
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Alright, alright. | |
| Well, like Jew and Jew. | ||
| Are we keeping track now of stolen bits? | ||
| Is that what we're doing? | ||
| Jew and Jew. | ||
| That's good faith and bad faith. | ||
| Gay and gay. | ||
| Good faith and bad faith. | ||
| And there's a marked difference between the way you're using the exact same language. | ||
| And Alex is... | ||
| I mean, he's a seven-year-old. | ||
| He doesn't understand the nuances of it. | ||
| But he doesn't understand the nuances of it, and he doesn't understand that he's on the bad faith side. | ||
| And it's very easy to change. | ||
| It could be very easy for him. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| I do not think it's very easy to change. | ||
| In function, it's very easy. | ||
| In mindset, it might be difficult for him. | ||
| It would be a very simple action, but it would take unlearning a lot of things that he... | ||
| Well, I grew up in such a repressive and... | ||
| Cult. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it is something that I am still learning. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like, I'm 30 years old, and I have spent 20 of it trying not to be the asshole that my family has raised me to be. | ||
| And I'm still not great at it. | ||
| I'm trying. | ||
| I honestly think that if you hadn't have been raised in a cult... | ||
| You'd still be struggling with that. | ||
| It's a product of our times. | ||
| It's a product of our evolving understanding of humanity. | ||
| It's evolution of empathy. | ||
| It's something where we're realizing that the human experience is much deeper and much more... | ||
| Nuanced, varied, diverse. | ||
| Than we thought. | ||
| In the good old days, back when America was great. | ||
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Fuck you. | |
| We thought it was much more unipolar or bipolar back then, and then we realized that it's thousands. | ||
| I grew up in a town with five guys. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| Burgers and fries? | ||
| Pretty much. | ||
| Five guys, burgers and fries? | ||
| No. | ||
| Sounds like a good town. | ||
| I don't know why I said that. | ||
| Now that I say that, I realize that it's... | ||
| No, I grew up in a very, very small town, and the experience was very limited. | ||
| And so even now, after escaping that, it's still like I'm still learning new things that I am fucking up. | ||
| Not because I knew I was fucking those things up. | ||
| It's because I... | ||
| Just existed in a place where those things didn't even exist. | ||
| And God, like, it's one of those weird curses. | ||
| You know those, like... | ||
| May you be... | ||
| That curse of may you live an interesting life. | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| It's that same sort of curse. | ||
| May you have to learn the whole time of your life. | ||
| It's kind of a curse, but it's a good curse. | ||
| It's always going to be uncomfortable, but... | ||
| A good curse is called a blessing. | ||
| You're always going to be learning, and that's fine. | ||
| That's fucking fine. | ||
| Humans are malleable. | ||
| It's not like you have to be stuck in your ways. | ||
| If the reality was that there were... | ||
| This movement was really trying to end reproduction. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If there was some actual evidence of that in the references Alex cited, I'd be pretty... | ||
| Pretty freaked out about that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, of course. | ||
| I'd be like, we got it. | ||
| We got it. | ||
| We got to stop this, dude. | ||
| Trans identity is awesome. | ||
| I'm into it. | ||
| I am into it, but we need to discuss the ending of reproduction. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| You know, like... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Anyway, let's get through this. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Let's finish this clip. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| So what is the key? | ||
| This whole trans movement is about outlawing science. | ||
| It's about outlawing male and female chromosomes that is absolute scientific fact. | ||
| He's mixing up sex and gender. | ||
| No! | ||
| Scientists come out like Jordan Peterson in Canada and says, listen, I don't hate you if you want to be something else, but you biologically were born as this. | ||
| Irrelevant. | ||
| And now Google executives, it's come out in Los Angeles, and they admit this, get in front of a whole amphitheater of people. | ||
| Last year. | ||
| And say, I am a golden dragonette. | ||
| A female dragon. | ||
| What are you talking about here? | ||
| Isn't that a child? | ||
| Isn't that a child dragon? | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Maybe it's a dragonette, like a female dragon. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Well, a dragonette is different from a dragonette, which is not a word. | ||
| Well, certainly. | ||
| Anyways, if you would like to learn more about dragons and dragonettes, read Anne McCaffrey. | ||
| Some people have tweeted at me to get into Jordan Peterson and debunk some of his shit, and I don't have time. | ||
| But he's a fucking dick. | ||
| He's a fucking idiot. | ||
| But be that as it may, this is not compelling. | ||
| I don't care what people might have said at a retreat where they're like, I'm a dragon. | ||
| I don't really give a shit. | ||
| Oh, hold on a second. | ||
| Are you saying that billionaires are fucking assholes who should deserve to die? | ||
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I'm on board. | |
| Well, but even, like, I've been to... | ||
| Who not should deserve to die. | ||
| Who do deserve to die. | ||
| I've been to weird, like, work functions and retreats where you've said weird shit. | ||
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Oh, so many. | |
| I'm like, I don't care. | ||
| I'm just here. | ||
| I'm just gonna get through this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just so happens that this one might have been Google. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm an expansive building. | ||
| I have yellow scales. | ||
| Everyone goes, you are a dragonet. | ||
| You have expensive building. | ||
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He's just talking about trust falls, basically. | |
| Google got up and said, I'm God. | ||
| They say you're a cult leader. | ||
| But if you chant, I am a golden dragonet, they are making you say two plus two equals five. | ||
| They are making you, with all these articles, like they'll have hundreds of articles a week, like Jones is insane. | ||
| He claims there's only two sexes. | ||
| He claims it's chromosomal. | ||
| He claims families existed. | ||
| And they just attack and go, he's insane, he's crazy, they're nuts, they're nuts. | ||
| It's a gaslighting. | ||
| Of you, not of me. | ||
| So that you give in to that. | ||
| And then the sky's the limit. | ||
| And then there's scientific, psychological warfare technicians who are going to go in when people in the trans community have the highest level of suicide of any group in the world. | ||
| Who do we know who is a psych warfare guy? | ||
| I know one dude. | ||
| Do we know a guy who is a psych warfare guy? | ||
| There's one guy who's even too much of a liar for Alex to allow on his show for a while. | ||
| Is there somebody who is really into psych warfare? | ||
| Well, but this guy promises that he's not going to use his psych warfare on Alex. | ||
| So you've got to dismiss him. | ||
| In that case, Dan, I'm going to give you five stars. | ||
| Steve Pachenik is a psych warfare guy. | ||
| Go home and call your mother. | ||
| Go get your shine box. | ||
| You might as well have said that, quite frankly. | ||
| That would have been more fun. | ||
| This is nonsense. | ||
| Also, the idea, the very fucking idea of using trans suicide statistics to malign the trans community is... | ||
| I mean, it's backwards. | ||
| It's backwards. | ||
| Yeah, there's no more... | ||
| Studies have been done very clearly on this. | ||
| There's no, like, more perfect indictment of the opposite than trans suicide statistics. | ||
| And the way Alex is doing it and the way he's about to do it is, like, the definition of blaming the victim. | ||
| No. | ||
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Hmm? | |
| Don't. | ||
| Worse than veterans, farmers, gay men, any other. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| They have been captured. | ||
| They have been confused. | ||
| They are being abused. | ||
| They are being hurt. | ||
| And they're sucked into a very dangerous underworld of people that want to abuse them. | ||
| Almost every, quote, trans person is an escort who has to have sex with dozens of people a day, and they end up killing themselves. | ||
| That's a fact! | ||
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Oof. | |
| You know, it's... | ||
| That's terrible. | ||
| That's so terrible. | ||
| It's kind of amazing to me that for the most part, his monstrosity and his language towards so many different people is horrific. | ||
| But every time he brings up the trans community, it is... | ||
| Unwielding. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because he can. | ||
| Every time we have ever heard him talk about trans people, he has said the most offensive things. | ||
| Yeah, because he can. | ||
| Because that's the vanguard now in terms of like, it's not like socially... | ||
| Totally unacceptable to say these things. | ||
| It's not the N-word. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| That's what he's doing. | ||
| And that's why he says the N-word. | ||
| That's why he's doing it. | ||
| Instead of the N-word. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He still feels like it's okay to say tranny, but not the N-word. | ||
| And so this is an example of that. | ||
| This is a pathetic document of something that, like, 15 years from now, even the Alex Jones of 15 years from now, wouldn't sign on. | ||
| When Alex Jones said that word, yeah. | ||
| And if you really want to get into the reality of the trans experience, which I don't think I'm fully aware of... | ||
| But I have done some research and looked into to some extent. | ||
| There is a high incidence of escorting and prostitution in trans communities. | ||
| And that is probably not about... | ||
| Probably? | ||
| It is not. | ||
| There's no probably about it. | ||
| It's probably, totally, more about runaway... | ||
| It's almost 100% about people who have been kicked out of their home because their parents don't accept them. | ||
| There's a much higher incidence of homelessness. | ||
| With trans youth, which is one of the reasons why we support the charity we support. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And the issue comes down to, like, in homeless communities, prostitution is really rampant, and that just is part and parcel with that experience. | ||
| Now, if you want to talk about the totality of the trans community, it's not a giant percentage of them who are prostitutes. | ||
| No. | ||
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That's an embarrassing and disgusting thing to say. | |
| And then to lump in the high rate of suicide in that as like a causal kind of thing, where it's like, you're all prostitutes and you fuck a bunch of people every day and then you kill yourself. | ||
| That to me is one of like, that's... | ||
| It's such a bad sentence. | ||
| It's such an easy line to draw between how... | ||
| The people who don't belong to the dominant social stratus exist with a higher suicide rate than the people who do. | ||
| Isn't it such a simple line to draw of like, oh, are you constantly excluded? | ||
| Surprise, your suicide rate is higher. | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
| Like, it's that simple. | ||
| Take even, like, the trans piece out of it. | ||
| Just go back to another time in history. | ||
| Like, go back to feudal times. | ||
| Like, the death rate, suicide rate... | ||
| Oh, of the serfs was higher than the rich people? | ||
| Yeah, the people who lived homes. | ||
| Odd. | ||
| Odd. | ||
| It turns out that historically, people who were pushed to the side and treated like the other end up with... | ||
| All of the bad stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the people who do have all the stuff look down and they're like, eh, fuck's wrong with them. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And it's a pathetic game. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's fucking stupid. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's fucking stupid. | ||
| And then even, like, we're not even unpacking the idea that Alex seems to just think, I mean, he waffles back and forth in his language, but I think he really only thinks that trans people are people who were born male. | ||
| are women. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't think he has any idea about the other side of it, women who are men. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Right. | |
| Anyway, it's not important. | ||
| I just wanted to point that out, because it seems absent in the conversation. | ||
| That is a real community. | ||
| You're absolutely correct. | ||
| It seems totally lost in his... | ||
| Because it seems like... | ||
| You know how whenever he talks about the cuckolding of Western civilization, it's all just like, oh, you got that from porn. | ||
| I think his understanding of the trans community, probably a lot of it, might come from porn. | ||
| Well, here's my analysis of it, and it's pretty simple. | ||
| When it comes to guys like Alex, it is ultimately a fear of, is this lady I'm trying to have sex with actually a dude? | ||
| So if it's a woman who identifies as a man and lives her life that way, he's not trying to have sex with her. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not even on his radar. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| If it's a man who identifies as a woman, then he is terrified of the possibility that he'll... | ||
| Well, so now we take trans issues out of it entirely, and now it just becomes a transactional... | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It becomes transactional about sexuality. | ||
| Agree. | ||
| It becomes a thing where it's like, I can't... | ||
| I can't barter with you. | ||
| You are not even... | ||
| You have no purchase in my landscape. | ||
| It's the modern gay panic of like, oh no, what if I actually want to fuck a dude? | ||
| It's not even modern. | ||
| No, it's the very classic gay panic. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| I think that was dealt horribly in that one... | ||
| What was that one fucking nip-tuck, that show? | ||
| I watched one episode about it. | ||
| I watched one episode of that show, and it happened to be one where... | ||
| Yeah, it was very terrifying. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| I don't know any of the characters' names on that show. | ||
| Don't know any of the plots. | ||
| Anyway, let's get through this. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| And then the left covers that up, doesn't want to discuss that, because they're using these people just like Hollywood does. | ||
| Just like Quentin Tarantino says, sex with children isn't a bad thing. | ||
| It was consensual. | ||
| He defends Roman Polanski because they're pigs. | ||
| And they want to lower barriers of families in any definition because now people that have been, you know, pled guilty to raping little eight-year-old six-year-old girls in Illinois just a few weeks ago said, I identify as a child. | ||
| And the court's looking at it saying, maybe it's legal. | ||
| Can children have sex with each other? | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| And so if you're a 47-year-old man... | ||
| The only thing the courts are possibly debating is... | ||
| Do we put him in prison for life or a hospital for life? | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Is it a thing where he can be trusted to be in prison? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Is this going to be a thing where he kills himself the first day in prison? | ||
| I don't know about that debate, but whatever. | ||
| It's not like courts are debating, huh, this guy thinks he's a child. | ||
| We should let him fuck kids. | ||
| No one is having that conversation except Alex. | ||
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Correct. | |
| He's the only person who's having that conversation. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You know, raping a six-year-old girl, just say you're a little boy and it's okay. | ||
| You see, it's all semantical games. | ||
| And then once you let them play games... | ||
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If you say you're a woman, you can go into the women's bathroom. | |
| Same shit. | ||
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Fuck you. | |
| I'm not against homosexuals or heterosexuals. | ||
| You are. | ||
| But using the term heterosexuals or homosexuals is science. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Homogeneous just means within your group. | ||
| You're a male, you're with a male. | ||
| You're a woman, you're with a woman. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| No, he's right in terms of the definition of terms. | ||
| He's wrong in terms of the interpretation of, like, no one's mad about the word homosexual. | ||
| You're projecting this onto yourself because it's a safe thing to complain about. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's fake. | ||
| But it's safe for you to complain about this because your fucking dumbass listeners in the sticks don't have any idea of what the real conversations people are having are. | ||
| It's infuriating. | ||
| You'll never have someone on your show, Alex, who actually has a grasp of the issues. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They'll just be more Russian propagandists and what have you. | ||
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Anyway. | |
| Great. | ||
| It has nothing to do with a judgment, but it becomes this whole idea to make people victims. | ||
| And now you must accept every form of trans, including I want to put Drano in my eyes. | ||
| I'm Back to this? | ||
| are blinded. | ||
| These stats are way off. | ||
| And the psychologist pours the Drano in lovingly. | ||
| It's not abuse. | ||
| You're not abusing a mentally ill person. | ||
| You're loving them. | ||
| And now the state pays and they're blind because they identify as a purple penguin. | ||
| Ah! | ||
| Bingo! | ||
| Everybody put it up on the board! | ||
| Purple Penguin came back. | ||
| There we are. | ||
| Let's make this up. | ||
| It sounds like a science fiction book. | ||
| Who would come up with something like this to convince us to commit genetic suicide? | ||
| And I've got the articles I haven't gotten to yet where they say, oh, trans is good to lower population, actually. | ||
| Oh, who would have thought of that? | ||
| Oh, it's so good. | ||
| You can't say you're a mother or father or a boy or girl. | ||
| Because that hurts someone. | ||
| Your identity is male or female. | ||
| You're, okay, dump Drano in your eyes. | ||
| Okay, chop your genitals off. | ||
| I'm not paying for it. | ||
| That's hate. | ||
| Are you done yet? | ||
| And if you'll capitulate to that level of insanity, you'll capitulate to anything. | ||
| Anything? | ||
| I am a golden dragon. | ||
| I'm a golden dragon. | ||
| Can you imagine a cult movie like that? | ||
| I am a beautiful ornate building. | ||
| You are a beautiful ornate building. | ||
| And that's their whole plan, admitted to end our species as you know it, using these poor people as the victims. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| And you've got whole communities of abusers who are heterosexual and homosexual feeding on these desperate mentally ill people and enjoying it. | ||
| Let's go out to break. | ||
| The whole thing there, the last 16 minutes of audio that we played over whatever fucking time it took, was a... | ||
| Drastically transphobic rant. | ||
| Wherein he pretends that, eh, I like the people, but they're gonna destroy the species. | ||
| And they're fucking stupid, and everyone is just enabling them and abusing them. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| God loves gay people, but he hates their lifestyle. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| God loves them. | ||
| God loves them. | ||
| Boy, we've heard this fucking line so many times. | ||
| It's so sad. | ||
| Now, Jordan, do you want to end this with a smile on your face? | ||
| Because I have one more clip that Alex gets into after this. | ||
| How do you? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| After all of this. | ||
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All right. | |
| That is just vintage. | ||
| I'm glad he closes strong. | ||
| At least that's great. | ||
| Actually, he closes with talking about how Donald Trump is, you know, like, I just hate him because he wants us to succeed. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| He's like a dog. | ||
| Make me smile. | ||
| Make me smile, Dan. | ||
| I don't want to hear what he has to say. | ||
| He's like a dog, and I say that in a good way. | ||
| Like one of those dogs that would die trying to bring you water. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| St. Bernard? | ||
| I say dog in a good way. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| That's how he closes. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| But this is how he gets to that close. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it is vintage go fuck yourself, Alex Jones. | ||
| Because here's the thing. | ||
| I rode a bicycle and I've been around a block. | ||
| I could have had sex with the most beautiful woman in Hollywood and I never did it. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Every time they didn't have a soul, I couldn't get attracted to them because it was all fake and all the rest of it. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| These people have no souls. | ||
| They're not happy unless they're doing bad stuff. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Great. | ||
| So fucking you is bad stuff? | ||
| No, apparently it's not because they would have been thrilled to do that because they have no souls. | ||
| So fucking him would be good stuff. | ||
| Wait, so the reason they didn't fuck him was because they don't have souls? | ||
| No, that's why he wouldn't fuck them. | ||
| Oh, what? | ||
| So, I'm Alex Jones, you're Angelina Jolie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey. | ||
| How's it going? | ||
| Pretty good. | ||
| Do you want to have sex? | ||
| Ooh, you don't have a soul. | ||
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Shit. | |
| No, I don't want to have sex with you. | ||
| Oh, thanks for offering. | ||
| I'm going to talk about this on my radio show in the future. | ||
| Where do I get a soul, and why wasn't I born with one, and why don't I have one? | ||
| You gave yours up by siding with the global arts. | ||
| Are souls real? | ||
| Like, maybe we should have a larger conversation. | ||
| No, it's just sex with you? | ||
| Okay, well then, how about you? | ||
| Stab, stab, stab. | ||
| How about you go fuck yourself? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I would say that judging someone as having no soul, especially judging an entire... | ||
| Population of people is having no soul. | ||
| Probably indicates more about you than the people you're judging. | ||
| Anyway, Alex, go fuck yourself! | ||
| Go fuck yourself, Alex! | ||
| What a piece of shit. | ||
| So if you want... | ||
| This is the end of the show. | ||
| If you'd like more of our show, we are at knowledgefight.com. | ||
| And, again, we talked about this hours ago, but... | ||
| There is a great article. | ||
| Everyone needs to put that out if they can. | ||
| If you are on Facebook or Twitter and you can push this out to more people, it is important that more people understand that Alex Jones is probably committing a crime. | ||
| Dan fucking did some real investigative journalism and it's incredible. | ||
| And I am hiccuping. | ||
| So there we go. | ||
| Do I need to scare you? | ||
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Edit this out. | |
| Edit this whole thing out. | ||
| Let me scare you. | ||
| You do the plugs. | ||
| I'll not hiccup until I have to tell somebody to go. | ||
| Let me scare you. | ||
| Let me scare the hiccups out of you. | ||
| I think Alex Jones is right. | ||
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No! | |
| You hiccuped in the middle of the show! | ||
| I know! | ||
| We are on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| We're on Facebook. | ||
| You can find us on iTunes. | ||
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You're back. | |
| You can go to knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And also, just in honor of our good friend John, Policy Wonk John, I'd like to end the show by playing a little clip for him. | ||
| I don't know what level he is in terms of... | ||
| You know, the donations and stuff. | ||
| I do know he donates. | ||
| After his research? | ||
| He's a technocrat. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| And so I'd like to give him that honorary designation here at the end of the show. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
| He's a loser little titty baby. | ||
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you so much, John, for all your help and everything. | ||
| You're a great dude. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| We are ending this show, but I will say, knowing very little about the man, I'll throw a hat into the ring for someone who can fuck themselves. | ||
| I mean, obviously, it should be Alex after this show. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But it seems implied. | ||
| Let's make it larger. | ||
| I would say Jordan Peterson can go fuck himself. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| I don't know much about him, but the more I learn about him, the more I think he needs to go fuck himself. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |