Knowledge Fight - #127: February 8, 2018

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#127: February 8, 2018

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Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes dissect Alex Jones’ February 8, 2018 episode, mocking his baseless Bitcoin claims (e.g., Roger Ver’s unverified Satoshi Nakamoto ties), eugenics misrepresentations (Holdren’s 1970s textbook), and transphobic distortions—like falsely linking suicide rates to "forced" transitions. His derogatory language ("tranny," racial slurs) and self-proclaimed "policy wonk" status, paired with blasphemous rants (renouncing Christ), expose a pattern of performative outrage and cognitive rigidity. The hosts dismiss his conspiracy-laden rhetoric as disingenuous, urging critical media consumption while highlighting his legal and moral inconsistencies. [Automatically generated summary]
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alex jones

infowars 28:01

dan friesen

01:30:33

jordan holmes

45:38

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owen shroyer

winn 00:30

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Speaker	Time	Text
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Tanzos.
		You're on the air.
		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a first-time caller.
		I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're a couple of dudes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, it is, Dan.
		Dan, somebody stay up until this late on a school night, Dan.
		Well, on a school night.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		First of all, it's your Friday.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is my Friday.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of our dear listeners is possibly getting furloughed from the government.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's a good reason to stay up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a good reason.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Beyond that, I don't know.
		A lot of people are listening to this tomorrow.
		Fair.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You dick.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a good point.
		I'm not sullying our other listeners.
		I'm just saying that there are plenty of people, a larger amount of people than we have any right to expect.
		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which we appreciate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Listening to us live tonight at 10:30 on Thursday.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you know why?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know a goddamn thing about Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Tonight's novelty beverage is Burnt City Brewery Face Melter Hibiscus IPA.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We shall be melting faces.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Tastes pretty good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it actually does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if it's what a hibiscus tastes like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've never eaten a hibiscus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I actually don't know what a hibiscus is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it's a flower.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like a tropical flower.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay, now I know what it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, today I want to.
		I don't know what I wanted to start with, but I had something.
		I really did.
		I really had something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I got so distracted by the burnt city hibiscus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have a terrible pun that I refuse to say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, you know what it was?
		The reason we're doing this so late is because you're too successful at stand-up comedy.
		Sure.
		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Making in the tens of dollars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I don't know.
		That wasn't worth going back to.
		Now.
		So, Jordan, today we're going to be going over the February 8th, 2018 episode of the Alex Jones show.
		That's Thursday of this week.
		And I will say this.
		I'm going to tell you this right now.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is going to be a lot of fun until it's not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great.
		Just roll.
		Don't give me intros.
		Now I'm dreading what's going to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that's why we're drinking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's increased my fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why we're having some booze because by the time the booze kicks in, we'll be at the point where we need to be drunk to handle it.
unidentified		All right, all right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But to give you some sense of where we're going here is an awful lot of people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, you have neighbors, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that's why you can't scream.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you should have front-loaded the rage part.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if it's rage.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a lot of unpacking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just bummer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a bummer, and it's a lot of trying to get to the bottom of what he's even trying to say.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But here is an out-of-context drop from today's episode.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're not lying to you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sounds believable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you are not lying to people, you don't have to scream.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're not lying at you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, generally, when someone yells at you about what they're doing or not doing, it's best to take that with a very large salt lick.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not mad at you.
		I'm just.
		Look, I don't know about body language so well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've got questions about that.
		So today, there's a lot to go over.
		I mean, the show's dog shit.
		It's very stupid.
		But there are a couple things that I'm going to have to point out that, like, I just don't have clips from them because boys got to prioritize.
		And I've had a fucking full day, quite frankly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because you fucking wrecked Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A shout out to our policy watcher funny John.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely, John.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We got to the bottom of some stuff about Alex Jones' new website, FortifiedSupply.com.
		And actually, we should put a pin in that just because it's going to come up later.
		We can discuss the details of that at that point.
		But I have probably put in a 16-hour day at this point today doing this shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm pretty much at what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm at 14 right now, so let's fucking roll, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why we need these beers and what have you.
		But that's to say that I've been working on a ton of Alex Jones stuff between that write-up, the endgame documentary that we will be putting out in the very near future and this episode.
		And some of these narratives are worth just mentioning in passing, but at the same time, like, who gives a shit?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		After I read your thing, I've just been Googling how to make a citizen's arrest all day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it qualifies for a citizen.
		I don't think we have standing to sue him either.
		It's like, I don't know.
		I don't even know the legal process of what to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're very confused.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're mad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sounds like standing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here's the first.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He bums us out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what else bums me out?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, nice transition.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you're nasty.
		Mr. Trump, if you're nasty.
		He has come up with this idea that he's going to have this military parade.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is hilarious to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's some problems with it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I love it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But here's one of the problems that I didn't foresee.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones knows where he got the idea.
		Some might say authoritarian regimes.
		Just a little spoiler alert.
		The last time America had a full-on military parade.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		1943?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it was the end of the Gulf War in 1991.
unidentified		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but beyond that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That seems too soon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Beyond that, there are showings of military pageantry on Veterans Day and stuff like that that are just yearly holidays.
		But the last one was in 1991 when we pulled out of the Gulf War.
		So to give some context, it's been, what, 27 years?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, that's not the time to have a military parade.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, where did he get?
unidentified		We failed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hooray!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to pretend this was a W.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So mission accomplished.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That wasn't a parade.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But here's where.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just as pathetic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My dude, here's where.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anyways, I'm sorry to keep interrupting you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I will not interrupt you any further.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's where we got.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Never.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Two days ago, President Trump came out and announced that he was going to call for a military parade.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's why they really hate Trump because Matt Drudge had that idea last year, pushed it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I know for a fact, that's what made Trump even think of it.
		For a fact.
		And see, it's the access that the people have.
		If you get a letter to Trump, or if he reads something on Drudge or InfoWars, if he thinks it makes sense, he'll look into it and he'll do it.
		Just like he learns in InfoWars that Sheriff Joe was going to prison.
		He made some phone calls, couldn't believe it.
		He said, why hasn't that been on Fox?
		He found out it was true, and he did it.
		And the White House admitted, yeah, they got the information from Dr. Jerome Coursey, who hand-deliberate the White House and got it through to the president.
		They hate that type of access, you see.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you see, they hate that kind of access.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that if I had a perfect world, we would remove Joe Arpaio's feet tomorrow.
		He would just have no feet.
		There would be no wheelchairs anywhere near him, no prosthetics.
		He is just a man with no feet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just a little waddly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what I want.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I feel like that would probably be a very generous result for him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, I just want him to be punished slowly for a long time until he dies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would be inconvenient.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe that torture is a good way to get information out of people because it's been proven that it's a terrible idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My friend.
		However, we've got the information.
		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We don't need to torture him for a reason other than to punish him for his crimes against humanity.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I like the idea that Drudge is, for a fact, responsible for this military parade.
		I don't care to unpack that.
		I don't care if it's true because if it is, that's fucked up.
		If it's not, still fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would you say it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why, if it's not true, why does Drudge want that on his record?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Realistically, the only, like, I don't, I don't know.
		It's tough to war games things when people are kind of crazy, but, like, I don't really see a reasonable motive for having a huge military parade with tanks.
		Like a Bastille Day-style French.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't like that the French do it, quite frankly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You win some, you lose some.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's also their country.
		Yeah.
		I'm not going to tell their country what to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you guys figure it out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's their business.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nationalism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You want to get a new Napoleon?
		Fucking fine.
		I don't give a shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And Alex goes on to talk about how Russia has Victory Day, and that's a really big thing.
		And they have military demonstrations, and it's cool because they're celebrating the end of World War II.
		And that is true.
		And the Russians, the USSR, Soviet Union, was incredibly important in the end of World War II.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They took on heavy fucking losses.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		11 million.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Compared to other countries.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All other casualties combined, I think, is the statistic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Russians took the hit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I believe that that is probably accurate.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The all others combined.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Something along those lines.
		I mean, not counting Japan and China, in which case, then you get into the whole thing.
		Anyways.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So them having a militaristic Victory Day parade is totally in line with, like, yeah, that's a piece of history that makes sense to celebrate in that way, in the same way we do Veterans Day and stuff like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I think one of the chief complaints that people are making when I looked into it and read some articles on it, the people who are complaining about Putin's Victory Day celebrations, it's that in the last few years, it's been getting very Soviet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who could have guessed?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of Soviet imagery is creeping back up in terms of like Soviet uniforms being worn by some of the soldiers.
		Wait, what?
		A little bit of Stalin revisionism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a little bit of that stuff going on and far before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, so is Stalin now taken out of his own pictures as well?
unidentified		Is that how that?
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a solid history joke, and fuck you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying it's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just went over my head.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, the whole thing, whenever Stalin would kill one of his buddies, if this buddy was in a picture with him, he would then be removed from the picture.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like one of those creeps who takes out the eyes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		I see.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I see.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was unaware of that little tidbit of history.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a nice little piece of history.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why Knowledge Fight is about education.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you know what else it's about?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Removing Joe Arpaio's feet?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, well, one day.
		But for now, it's about making fun of Alex Jones's craven attempts to make money.
		And so it is in that spirit that I'm going to play you this next clip, which is a commercial that Alex Jones has just released.
		That's very exciting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's pre-taped.
		Yes, yes.
		This is in the live.
		There's no pivot to this ad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		This is a pre-taped commercial, and it also is the voiceover talent is not Alex.
		It is one.
		Owen.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Owen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So badass.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Slayer Schroer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Enjoy.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Every year, we spend hundreds of dollars on chocolates, jewelry, and sappy cards for Valentine's Day.
		It's time to get a gift that will really make the sparks fly with the InfoWars Life, his and Hers pack, now at 40% off.
		Get our two fan favorite products, Super Male Vitality and Super Female Vitality, that help boost vitality and energy for less.
		You've already taken care of Valentine's Day.
		Make sure you and your significant other have an incredible Valentine's night.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why don't you just fucking say it's a boner pill already?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just say it's a boner pill.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We know it's a boner pill.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You guys have already taken care of Valentine's Day.
		Now let us help you with Valentine's Night.
		Unless you are, unless you are a senior citizen, I can't imagine any point in a relationship where you're like, look, we had a great Valentine's Day.
		I love you.
		I'm attracted to you.
		I'm very excited for this.
		Let's both take eye droplets of serum in order to get us to fuck each other.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, very weird.
		Now, very weird.
		This is again where InfoWars is fucked up.
		All right?
		Because the obvious.
unidentified		Well, add it to the list.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because obviously, if you're going to run a Valentine's Day special, you put the male and female vitality into chocolates.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like one of those RJ, you know, with the filled chocolates.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have historical evidence that supermale vitality pairs only with burgers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So you can't actually have it with sweets.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, Alex likes to take a little bit of the super female vitality.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't want to tell you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He likes it better.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He does want to tell you.
unidentified		He says it all the fucking time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He feels guilty about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So wait.
		So, okay.
		So in between race baiting, Muslim hating, just white nationalism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're also like, guys, you want InfoWars to teach you how to fuck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what you need.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not like the Kama Sutra.
		I mean, it's just to put the Kundalini into your balls, penis rising kind of stuff.
		It's not teaching you the how of it.
		It's giving you the why.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		These guys are such bros.
		Like, you halfway expect the commercial to end with, like, hey, you need to lay some pipe, plumber.
unidentified		Like, like that kind of bullshit, fucking terrible read.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, fuck you guys.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or it's end up being a commercial for like Spanish fly or something like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't, or Funky Cold Medina.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, now there we go.
		What's Tone Loku up to these days?
		I don't know.
		I bet he could be got for InfoWars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He could.
unidentified		Shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet he could be got for us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we should call Tone Lok.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, for sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was in a great couple episodes of news radio.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's awesome.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also, Funky Cold Medina is a very problematic song.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to talk very clearly.
		I don't want to go back and look into Funky Cold Medina.
		I just want to remember Surf Ninjas, the greatest movie of all time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Schneider.
		I'm trying to think of another star.
		Can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Leslie Nielsen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He wasn't one of the principals.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was the bad guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was the main villain, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was like four on the call sheet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then there was that one guy, and then probably that kid from Three Ninjas, but who is also a surf ninja?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I always get surf ninjas and three ninjas confused.
		Yeah, same thing.
		Anyway, in this next clip, Alex has a deceitful complaint he wants to make about the left.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It is the left at college campuses across this country that first started banning words like the N-word out of literature.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You cool?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Should we start this up?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		You know what?
		I'm going to take that win.
		I'm going to take that one on the left as an ambassador for the left.
		Yes, we're proud to have banned the N-word that you guys still somehow say, and we don't stop you from saying because we never fucking banned it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No one banned anything.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You can't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, let's start this from the top.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It is the left at college campuses across this country.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That first started banning words like the N-word.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How damn it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just really quick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know that that's the exact same spot I paused before, but it bears mentioning that he's saying that in almost like a negative way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, no, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, first of all, they didn't ban the N-word.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I went to college and a lot of people threw that around.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, you went to college and deserved it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now.
		But like at the same time, he's saying it.
		And I understand it comes from this weird libertarian place of like being against the Civil Rights Act, but saying you're not racist.
		You're just like, I don't want to restrict business.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That sort of stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of in that same parcel, but it's very weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's obviously racist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very weird for someone to be like, I am against efforts to get white people to not say the N-word so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very weird.
unidentified		Furthermore, you lead up to that one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you're coming out the gate with the left banned the N-word as a bad thing, nowhere to go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, also, you're already wrong and a monster.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, look, quite frankly, like, Michael Richards can't have a career anymore.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He can't really work, but he's still a fucking millionaire.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Still a multi-millionaire.
		He didn't have anything destroyed for him.
		Like, what fucking work was he doing after Seinfeld?
		Well, he was in like two movies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He did that Seinfeld reunion season of Curb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, but that's fucking the same thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, back to the clip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to start it from the top in honor of Alex Coast.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it, Dan!
unidentified		In honor of Alex starting this over and over again.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It is the left at college campuses across this country that first started banning words like the N-word out of literature that was actually against racism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They did!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then moved on now to Martin Luther King because he said all God's children, black, white, yellow, red, and brown.
		They said, well, where's the trans?
		Where's the you've got to remove Martin Luther King's speech off the wall?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I looked into this, and actually what it's about is a college.
		I can't remember the name of the college now.
		I don't have it in front of me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a college.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a college, and there's a student group that got together, and there's a mural, a painted mural on the wall of one of the buildings that has a Martin Luther King speech on it.
		And they were arguing that they should replace it with the new mural, not to say fuck you to Martin Luther King, but to reflect the fact that the civil rights movement has come a long way.
		Race is still incredibly important and a big piece of it, but it's expanded from there into all sorts of maligned groups and disenfranchised populations.
		And so it was more like an update more than anything else.
		And if you look into it, this college has had this mural of Martin Luther King since like 1982 or something like that.
		But before that, it had another mural that was.
unidentified		Of Woodrow Wilson saying the N-word.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So it was a good change.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, liberals banned it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was a smart change.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it was the guy who founded the university.
		And it was something that at the time seemed good.
		And then as time went on, they're like, ooh, we don't know if this is good anymore.
		So they covered it up with this mural that had the Martin Luther King quote on it.
		And then now they're like, well, maybe we should update that.
		They're not even demanding that they do it.
		They're just having a conversation about it.
		It's not banning Martin Luther King.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is an essential part of conservatism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And oftentimes, probably the least offensive, like maybe often, like maybe the most justifiable is fear of change.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, there's a lot of fear of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why all of Alex's narrative harken back to a bygone time of picket fences and two and a half kids.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a good idea to have that voice because if you are just like innovation for innovation, let's change everything, then you may wind up throwing away what should be built upon instead of what should be tossed aside.
		But Alex, the N-word should not be built upon.
		It should be banned.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a tough place to start an argument.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is where he started it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I'm getting from the chat room that trans isn't a race.
		And yes, of course not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, we agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're looking past that for now because it's going to get way worse.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also, the reason that it sort of like slips through in terms of what Alex is saying is because the trans community is a part of the modern civil rights picture, as opposed to, I guess it still was in the 60s, but it wasn't nearly as big of a piece.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't accepted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even at the time, most, you know, if you want to go anywhere, any black church, any white church, any church anywhere in the 60s, trans people, gay people, all of that shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Punishable by whatever it is you want to do.
		There was no acceptance.
		To me, the civil rights movement now should expand to everybody who's not straight and white.
		Because that's everybody who's being oppressed and the poor.
		Everybody who's not straight and white and rich.
		And then we prioritize black women the most.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know why.
		I don't know why.
		You know what?
		This is you.
		I'm not going to litigate the civil rights movement.
		I have nothing to do with it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was about to say, hey, guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How about you shut up, Jordan?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's exactly what I'm saying to me as well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, because we've got to deprioritize your voice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolute white male.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but my only point about that is that it makes sense in the context of what Alex was saying.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just he's stupid.
		Right.
		So anyway, in this next clip, Alex has stumbled onto something.
		He's had a revelation.
		Throughout the first 15 minutes or so of the show, he's rambling about the Tiananmen Square and talking because there's a military parade coming up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And now's the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there's a liberal professor who went out and said that he's going to stand in front of the tanks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A little grandstandy, maybe a little tacky.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, Alex is super pissed off about this, and he has developed a theory wherein the left liberals, they're the Chinese in the tanks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That makes all the sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the patriots are the guy standing there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It makes sense if you just let him explain.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Just let the man talk.
		You're right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I was thinking about the hypocrisy of leftists in this country with antifa hitting people on the head with bike locks, stabbing people, bombing things, attacking their cars, spitting on my reporters, dumping coffee on my head, singing it, having them on, saying violence is good against the right wing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That guy he's referencing was a troll who got on CNN.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It just hit me that they are like the communist Chinese at Tiananmen Square in 1989 when they go out and engage in violence to stop our free speech.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Anytime libertarians, conservatives, Trump supporters, you name it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I want to say one thing really quick because this is part of the clips that couldn't quite make it in terms of timing.
		He does this fucking rant like five times on the show.
		And one of them he's listing off grievances that have happened.
		And they yell at our reporters.
		And one of them is like, it's totally fine to fart into a mic.
		I'm like, that is fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a video of this guy.
		It's like maybe a guy in his 50s, 60s.
		It's him and his wife at a rally, and they're talking.
		Millie, I think, is trying to interview them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Millie Weaver?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he just grabs the microphone to do it.
		And honestly, I think it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life.
		It's as funny.
		It's as funny as that little girl flipping off Owen Schroyer.
unidentified		Yeah, so funny.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		it's an old man farting into their money.
		That's where, look, that's something that you shouldn't even mention if you're Alex.
		You should You should just let that one go because that's objectively hilarious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's adolescent as hell, but man, so funny.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If Alex himself walked in here and farted into one of our mics, all would be forgotten for the 30 seconds that we would laugh.
		And then we would hate on him again.
		Or that would be fucking hilarious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or let's say that there's an Antifa version of InfoWars summary, right?
		And they're out at some Republican rally, and Anthony Scaramucci farts into their mic.
		Alex would love it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It would be hilarious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He would call it a classic move.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And if you're Antifa, chances are you'd be like, all right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would still think it's hilarious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Try to have an event.
		Antifa even comes out with AK-47s in Austin and won't let my reporters on the Capitol grounds to be able to cover a woman who was killed on illegal alien and the illegal alien gets off.
		We go to a vigil and they are attacking men, women, and children and pushing them and hitting them and not letting them get into the event.
		And the police stand there and look on while the left intimidate and Antifa calls for killing cops and cops are getting shot in the back.
		All this Weatherman style tactic.
		And then they've got the nerve to have professors and leftist activists on CNN, MSNBC.
		We played clips of some of them earlier saying, Trump's a fascist.
		Lay in front of the tanks if he has a military parade.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So again, I think that liberal professor that he played, I have no idea who this guy is.
		I've never heard of him before.
		But at the same time, I don't really necessarily think that he might be a little trolly.
		No, I think he's sincere.
		But I think he's a little more dramatic than maybe is required.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just can't.
		I mean, that is one of the most line-by-line examples of I know you are, but what am I?
		I think we've heard in a long time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To an extent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, think about, just go, just go fucking word for word what it is he is saying that the left has done, and then just go to Charlottesville.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Line by line, that is exactly what the Nazis did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How many white supremacists have been interviewed on CNN?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or New York Times.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		Or the fuck, how many times are we going to listen to what white supremacists have to say?
		And then at the same, and then he's like, well, they let leftists on here saying that white supremacy is bad?
		These radical leftists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's an even greater irony that you're not quite capturing, and that is that he's saying that anytime the Trump people and the Patriots want to get together, Antifa won't let them do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the only example he comes up with is an explicitly white supremacist rally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I watched the video of Owen Schroer trying to get into that rally, and the rally is not like, it's not a vigil for Katie Steinley.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The girl who was accidentally killed by a stray bullet that ricocheted off the ground that misfired from a, yes, undocumented immigrants' gun.
		Yes, all those facts are exhaustively discussed.
		Absolutely.
		But the rally wasn't a vigil for her as much as it was a collection and sounding off gathering of people who were really mad about immigrants.
		And it was an anti-immigration, anti-I mean, who knows?
		Who knows the depths of what was really in the heart of it.
		But that's what it was.
		I watched the entire video.
		They weren't threatening with an AK-40 any more than anybody is threatening everybody at open carry rallies.
		It's the exact same thing.
		You can't have it both ways.
		But again, it's fucking stupid and pointless for us to bring up hypocrisy.
		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, this is fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This next clip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones gets into symbology a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So enjoy this very weird, very pseudo-spiritual kind of wishy business.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The pentagram is an upside-down pentacle.
		A pentacle symbolizes humans.
		A head, two arms, and two legs.
		It's a powerful, powerful symbol.
		Inverting it is about it upside down and them siphoning the energy off of the inversion.
		Because it creates major dark energy, major destruction, major, the universe is not in order.
		So these weak people go in and go, let me flip this upside down.
		Because they're so weak, even though they only get a tiny bit of the evil power that's created by it, they still got to go, warming their hands to the fire of evil.
		Now, briefly.
		No, we have launched a new site, FortifiedSupply.com, and it's InfoWars site.
		They censored us off Google ads and everything.
		So I thought, you know, let's create a site we say as a sponsor, but it's really us.
		And I thought, you know, I'm not going to do that.
		Even though it's true that it'd be a sponsor if it's our subcompany that helps fund the operation.
		It's InfoWars.
		If they want to try to center that when I'm trying to run ads with it again, that's fine.
		It's a super fancy, high-tech shopping cart.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex made a very crucial error in that last bit there, and that's what launched my investigation in earnest today.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I got into Fortified Supply.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		This is the first time I've heard him plug it since he unveiled the Fortified Supply on December 5th of 2017.
		And that's what got my brain thinking again.
		And one of the things that he said in there is very damning, and that is he's giggling around about how, ah, it's us.
		It's us.
		And that's going to be a problem for him.
		It should be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whether or not it will be is to be determined.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To get into exactly why, I recommend all of you listening to go to knowledgefight.com.
		I have an extensive write-up about this full of documentation, screenshots of Alex Jones' various contracts and legal documents.
		He is operating what I believe, and I think it's pretty clear, although I don't want to say this as an accusation because if I'm wrong in some weird technicality, I don't want to be charged with libel or slander or something like that.
		But it very much appears that he's operating Fortified Supply as an illegal alias for his company.
		And that is a Class A misdemeanor in Texas.
		And if he is doing this, as all evidence appears he is, he could face up to a year in prison.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, wouldn't that be great?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At least that threat would be a good thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, to me, it's like it comes down to things like that that he said on the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like him admitting this is us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is our website.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We could pretend it's someone else, but it's us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's getting Al Capone on tax evasion charges.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what we, you know, for all the crimes that we have seen him commit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Borderline crimes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This one's kind of a big deal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Crimes of decency versus like literal crimes.
		Right.
		This, I mean, if I were just like talking about any other human, I'd be like, you know, who cares?
		That's kind of a small thing.
		And I kind of still think that about Alex, but I also hate him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So let's prosecute to the full extent of the law.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I guess that's kind of selective and philosophically problematic for us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, we don't run a business, really.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and fuck Alex.
		And by the end of this episode, you're going to be feeling that even more.
		Great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Two things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One, exactly to the jewel, how much power does the left get from the pentagram?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Spelled jewel.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		J-O-U-L-E.
		It's a measurement.
		It's a measurement of force.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was trying to think of what a reasonable number would be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's an unreasonable number?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		75,000.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a lot of jewels.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That seems like too many jewels.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you think there are any scientists who tried to start a cover band called Run the Jewels, but J-O-U-L-E-S?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably they did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go with the big no on that one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a hot Halloween costume.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		No.
		I'm going to go with another big no on that one.
		I'm going to go with two straight no's.
		All right.
		Second.
		Clearly, what he just said was that the reason that he set up the fortified supply situation, and probably the reason that we're in the situation where we are with his lack of registration and the like, is to get around Google's block.
		Google is not allowing his advertisements because, of course they're not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But if you don't have it associated with the InfoWars brand, you can put it up through Google and it won't give them the alerts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if the it's a little bit complicated in terms of how you file a doing business as alias and that sort of thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And us having this conversation right now would be a little bit difficult for me to explain all of that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Start from the beginning, and then six hours from now, we'll get into endgame.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you have a business that is like a LLC or any other sort of business, a corporation or anything like that, you file your corporation and it has a certain name.
		Like if I started a corporation, it would be Knowledge Fight LLC or whatever.
		Now, if I wanted to start another show called Freezing Point Goods or something like that, I sell something at Freezing Point Goods or whatever.
		What would you sell?
		Probably, I don't know, art.
		I'd sell drawings, draw rings.
		I don't know.
		I got nothing to sell.
		So this is all very abstract and stupid.
		But if I were to do that, I couldn't sell things as Friesen Point goods or whatever with the company that I've started without creating a doing business as name.
		And to do that, you have to file with the Secretary of State and the county clerk of the counties that you're doing business in, wherever you have an office.
		So I would need to do that, and then these businesses would be exactly the same.
		Now, in doing that, in filing that paperwork, I don't know if it would trigger Google or anything like that.
		I'm not certain that that is a way to get around the Google block.
		So that part of it is not explained by the explanation he gives there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		I agree with you.
		But I'm not saying concretely that that is the case.
		I'm saying that that's what he's implying is the case.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but at the last time he talked about it in December, he implied that the reason was to get around map agreements, minimum advertising prices.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like agreements that he'd signed with his suppliers.
		So his story is even changing in terms of what his motivation for doing this is.
		So, I don't know.
		It's one of the most suspicious things I think I've encountered in terms of...
		And he's done a lot of suspicious stuff.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But this one's really big.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I really hope people will pay attention and get the word out about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did Daria set up Fortified Supply?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She may have.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it a money laundering website?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, that's where it comes into, like, we're in the realm of rampant speculation at that point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm here for.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It does have the potential to be that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's one of the big reasons why it set off pretty serious red flags when I started looking into the nature of it.
		And that is the potential for taking in dark money under the table, the money laundering capabilities, or just hiding assets, hiding money.
		That sort of thing could be done very easily with a non-existent business that you're running that has no tax identification.
		It has no attachment to your normal LLC.
		And to me, that's either sloppiness or a really desperate move.
		And I don't know which it is.
		And it might be a third option.
		I don't know.
unidentified		I mean, how much someone has to find out, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How much dark money has been run through your boys like Manafort and those kinds of guys.
		It's not necessarily a desperation move.
		It could be just a massive revenue stream.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but see, the reason I label it as a desperation thing is because the history that Alex Jones has of being on the up and up with this sort of paperwork.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because you do see over and over again the various business names that he uses, like Prison Planet, InfoWars, the Jones report he even filed one for.
		That's not even really a thing anymore.
		That was a while back.
		So he has all that history of knowing what to do and doing the right thing.
		And I think now it might just be, I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So I would narrow it down to three things that we would be looking at.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Either laziness or just lack of oversight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sloppiness.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Could be desperation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Could be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In that, you know, whatever it is he's trying to avoid.
		Or it could be greed.
		And he's got somebody who's going to really throw a lot of money towards the business.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or even, let's add a fourth could be avarice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not entirely sure the capabilities of it, but it's possible that through this sort of thing, he could hide money from his ex-wife.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He does owe a massive amount in spousal support.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It could be a sort of thing where he's trying to create a workaround.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
		Maybe his wife has standing.
		His ex-wife.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She actually does to some extent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think with this, but with some of her other businesses, I believe she is listed as a...
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But she might have like she might have relinquished that in the divorce.
		I'm not entirely sure.
		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like the Midas Gold situation all over again where they're like, hey, fuck this guy.
		He was trying to hide it from his wife.
		You know, like that kind of situation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, the other thing, too, that was weird that I came up with when I was looking over these records, like just searching for various Alex Jones-related records on the list.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You found a lot of dead bees in your room?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, in the county clerk's office, there's tons of stuff that you can find.
		Like, I found his marriage license from his first marriage to Kelly.
		Like, I found that marriage license public from 2007.
		And the weird thing is he's married again.
		I couldn't find it.
		No marriage.
		I don't know if that means that they're not legally married or what.
		Or maybe they got a license somewhere else that they don't live.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They could have gone to Vegas or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I think you'd still have to have the license in where you habitate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how it works, but it's weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't even believe in marriage, frankly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And neither does he.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Common law.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Common law marriage.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, in this next clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As long as the sheriff says that you're okay with marriage, you're fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've rambled a little bit on this, but just because it's something that I've been really looking into for a bit and extensively.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think it's important.
		But the bottom line is something is up.
		Something is up with Alex's businesses, and someone smarter with more access than us really needs to look at this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not necessarily.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not necessarily smarter, but more access.
unidentified		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		More reach.
		Good call, only sponsored posts.
		Chances are he was married in international waters.
		That's probably what happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, Admiralty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We come back to Admiralty law.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, Alex, you know, at the beginning of this show, he was pretty staunchly in favor of this military parade.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At this point, he gets a little wishy-washy.
		And you know why?
		Because at this point in the day...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Tiananmen Square?
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Rand Paul had come out and said that, hey, this is a dumb idea.
		Well, I will.
		I think Rand Paul's statement was that he'll support the military parade if Trump brings everyone home from Afghanistan.
		If he ends the war in Afghanistan, nice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So Alex now is like, that's a little bit like the liberal professor with, like, come on, you're a little grandstanding there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A little bit, but at the same time, it's in line with Rand Paul's principles.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it's what he supposedly is for.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And so Alex, I think, is real, it's much like the ghost of Christmas Past is reminded of the principles he once had before he became a bootlicker for aspiring authoritarian.
		And he's like, ah, shit, I got to get wishy-washy about this parade now.
		So you listen to this shit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm all for a military parade, but he really needs to bring a bunch of troops home from these useless bases around the world that are bankrupting our country and that have been serving the globalists.
		We need to bring a lot of troops home and cut the military budget for stuff that is purely empire building.
		And Rand Paul has come out and said that as well: bring U.S. troops home from Afghanistan, then throw the parade.
		But I understand what Trump's doing, triggering the leftist and making them come out and say they're going to attack the parade to show people the internal enemy and who they really are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, no one's going to attack the parade.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, one, it's a military parade.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a dumb idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, hold on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So I'm just saying he should bring some troops home from Iraq.
		They're coming over from Iraq now.
		It's been announced almost all of them.
		So I guess that's probably what Trump's got in mind.
		You know, we always think, hey, Trump ought to do this.
		He's five steps ahead.
		That's already been planned.
		In fact, I bet that's what happens.
		But a great idea Matt Drudge had a year ago now manifesting.
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dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear what the name of his new product is?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Icarin clan?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Icarin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Icarin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what that is evocative of?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Iker?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Icarus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Icarus, son of Didalus, creator of the labyrinth of where Theseus slayed the Minotaur.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, I was thinking more like Iker or Icar, which is like the blood of a goblin or that kind of thing in Dungeons and Dragons.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Boy, that is not appealing for a pill.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fantasy nerd, fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I think that extends past just Dungeons and Dragons stuff because I've heard that too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a trope of fantasy literature.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's still not appealing for a pill.
		No.
		It definitely gives the image in my mind of Icarus.
		That's the thing that comes chiefly to mind.
		And of course, Icarus, son of Didalus, Didalus created wax wings in order to fly.
		And he told his son, Icarus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is Alex's next product?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wax Wings.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wax Wings.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, what if he came out with Wax Lips?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For Valentine's Day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Your wife's lips are too small.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Got to be honest, only sponsored post is killing it tonight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, Ipacac.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there you go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The point is, this is a terribly named product.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Icarin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very terrible.
		Very terrible.
		So, what I want to do now is I want to make a rundown of before we get into the rest of the episode of some of the narratives that we will be missing.
unidentified		Just because nice little what got cut segment?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, more or less.
		I've already discussed the Victory Day celebration, that stuff.
		Joseph McCarthy was right.
		We learned that on this episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's based on Russian files that have come out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Russian files.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the Russians have loved it.
unidentified		I love that show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Joseph McCarthy was right.
		And Alex is like, yeah, that makes sense.
		Alex gets really defensive because the Dow Jones went down another thousand points today.
		Bad day.
		And he's like, yeah, well, it's still got to go 7,000 more down to undo Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
		That's fun.
		He gets really mad about Elon Musk shooting that car into space.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's a legitimate grievance.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, because it's a stunt and bullshit, what have you?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I think of Gil Scott Heron, whenever Ellen Musk did that, I immediately went Whitey's on the moon.
		Immediately.
		A rat dun bit my sister Nell.
		And Elon Musk sent a fucking car into space.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not as good a poem, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		not as good but alex uh his take on it is like all these This is a ritual.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is evocative of that movie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is evocative of that movie heavy metal.
		And so they do like this.
		He and Rob Dew created a little special report where they point out that there's references to heavy metal.
		And as they're discussing that, the car turns and you see on the dashboard, don't panic, which is a reference to the money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You hit the car.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'm like, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You guys do not understand what you are doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex, come on, man.
		That's a different reference.
		And so it's really dumb.
		That's pretty stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just one thing to say on the parade, and I wrote about this today, but I am all for it.
		I am so for this parade.
		And I don't want anybody to say anything.
		I just want everybody to watch this parade because in America, we will all be like, oh, this is sad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, do you remember this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is pathetic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, at the inauguration, the parade that they had with all the empty bleachers and shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Imagine having a military parade like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Imagine pathetic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Imagine the turnout being really terrible to a pomp and circumstances.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because of course it would be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you might get some jingoistic people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You might get some of the people who are just like, I don't support him, but support the troops.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You get those little girl singers and the American flag stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I think they're out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think they're out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they don't like it.
		They got screwed.
		And so lastly, surprise, somebody didn't get paid.
		So this one guy, I can't remember his name, doesn't matter.
		I looked into it.
		It's nonsense.
		This guy testified not under oath and without a transcript.
		Great.
		That Hillary and the Uranium One deal, real serious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I saw that on Fox News and the Daily Caller and all that shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And also, George Soros is doing shit all up in business again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And so I looked into it.
		I'm like, this is not great.
		Adam Schiff and I can't remember who the other senator was, but they said that they talked to the Department of Justice and this guy is not credible.
		He's lied to us in the past.
		Right.
		That sort of stuff.
		So suffice it to say.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like Iceman from the Iraq war lead up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I thought you were talking about Top Gun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also not trustworthy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nor was I talking about the X-Men.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or the serial killer Kuklinski.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's a good one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of Icemen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A lot of Icemen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What I'm saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, there's your comic book right there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What I'm saying is I'm reserving judgment on this guy who gave testimony because he did show up.
		Now, granted, it's not under oath, so there's no penalty for lying.
		It doesn't really matter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, who said it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But 90% of success is just showing up, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hell yeah.
		Hell yeah.
		Oh, it looks like our bud, Best Oswald donkey, he's just put into the chat room.
		I'm getting paid right now.
		It looks like the furlough is happening.
		Yay!
		So let's check out the video.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that a government shutdown?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are we talking about here?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm taking it to mean.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, let's get to this next clip because this is fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones does not know anything about Bitcoin.
unidentified		True.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he has consistently been like, I don't want to fucking get into this.
		Because he thinks that the secretive people behind Bitcoin are globalists or something like that.
		He has a lot of weird ideas about what's going on with Bitcoin because he's never really looked into it or he doesn't understand the process of mining for Bitcoin or anything like that.
		So he would say he should just leave it alone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be a smart idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he shouldn't touch it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because the last time he talked about Bitcoin on the show, he had a Bitcoin expert on the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who was expert.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A Pizzagate weirdo named Dave Seaman.
		Expert.
		Rebranded himself and is now a Bitcoin expert.
		So on today's show, on February 8th?
		No, he has had Max Coin on before.
		Okay.
unidentified		A lot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Max Kaiser is also really into Bitcoin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But be that as it may, he has this guy named Roger Verr on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Where do these people come from?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, I want to tell you something about Roger Verr.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		His name is dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very dumb.
		V-E-R.
		He comes on to talk about Bitcoin and his own thing that's called Bitcoin Cash.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why do they always have their own version of this dumb shit?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because you've got to make your own thing, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I respect that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Entrepreneurs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One thing that you should know about this dude is that he renounced his citizenship a while back and now lives in Japan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, good for him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, good on him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a great place to live.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's one thing you need to know.
		And that's why the Skype doesn't work.
		And so I can't play almost any of this interviews.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's terrible.
		It's glitching out all over the place.
		But they get him back after they go to break, fix up some Skype issues, and they come back with some calls.
		And these calls are not good.
		And Alex, because he knows nothing about Bitcoin, can't handle any of it.
		And it delights me to no end.
		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Again, this is very complex.
		I understand the basic generalities and how these systems work, but I can't vouch for you or the other groups.
		I want to be clear about that because I'm not usually flying somewhat blind.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Stay safe.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In California, you're on the air worldwide with Roger Verr.
unidentified		Hey, Alex, big fan.
		Love your supplement.
		Just want to say that Bcash is just a fork of the original Bitcoin.
		And it's a scam.
		It's a Chinese scam coin that this guy, Roger, who's been arrested for selling explosives and all this other crap, is trying to push his own agenda and actually take down Bitcoin.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I said arrested for what?
unidentified		He was arrested.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'd love to reply to that.
		Hold on.
		Arrested for what?
unidentified		He was arrested for selling explosives.
unidentified		Bcash is basically just a fork of the original Bitcoin.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I heard that part.
		Okay, okay.
		We'll come back to you in a minute, Garrett.
		Go ahead, Roger.
unidentified		So this guy very well could be a paid operative trying to disrupt Bitcoin Cash.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very simple.
unidentified		The name is Bitcoin Cash, not Bcash.
		BCash is a completely separate project, not related at all to BCH, which is in reference to Bitcoin Cash.
		In reference to me selling explosives on the internet, that's absolutely true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a sentence I hope to say one day.
unidentified		In reference to me selling explosives on the internet, that is absolutely true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, this guy's probably a paid operative trying to spread trouble, but I did fucking do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He did fucking sell explosives on the internet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Where else are you going to sell them?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He did 11 months in prison for selling explosives on the internet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He did 11 months in prison.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it turns out it turns out that they were like illegal fireworks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so I have a little bit of an idea about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a little disappointing.
		It's a little bit of like.
		I immediately saw like cartoon bombs with the circle and the like giant fuse sticking out of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the big skull on the front.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So, this, I mean, I cut off this clip, but it goes on so much longer of him just being like, Look, this is back when eBay used to sell guns, and everybody, you know, like, look, I ran for office as a libertarian, and I was against the gun lobby, blah, blah, blah.
		And they just, of course, they decided, oh, I'm against the police, you know, and they decided to come against me and railroad me.
		I'm the only person who got convicted.
		It's all victim shit.
		It's all like, it's all in that victim narrative.
		But, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just love that it's, I love, I love that this Bitcoin expert is like, yes, I did sell explosives on the internet, but you can trust me with this fake currency that I've invented.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the other part that I love is Alex is, I did not know that he did time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't Google my guest.
unidentified		I didn't do any research into this guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, how does it go from there?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Does that even on his Wikipedia page?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It should be.
		It should be basic knowledge of this guy.
		If you do any vetting of your guests, any of it.
		Any.
		What is it?
		The third sentence on his Wikipedia page?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did 11 months in the pokey for selling bombs.
		So Alex doesn't know what to do at this point because he doesn't know anything about Bitcoin.
		This caller has made a point that Roger isn't really disputing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That no one is prepared to deal with.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so here's Alex's take on it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It gives me a headache, Roger, because you seem like a nice guy.
		He seems like a nice guy.
		I don't know what to believe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he just said it.
		What do you mean you don't know what to believe?
		Both of them agreed that he did time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I think that's more in reference to the like you being a scammer thing.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Your Bitcoin operation being a scam.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what to believe.
		Look, you seem nice.
		He seems nice.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You both sound white.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what to do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That sort of thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, oh, Jesus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You both sound white.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex fucks up and takes a second call.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Drew in Indiana.
		You're on the air.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Hey, thanks, Alex.
		First, I want to say it's well known in the Bitcoin community that Roger Ver is a scammer, and this is his latest scam.
		Just hours before this interview, he manipulated the price of Bitcoin Cash up 25% just to push his narrative.
		And I do have a question for him.
		He's been telling everyone that Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin.
		But this can be easily proven through cryptography by signing the Genesis block.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, real quick, I've cut out Roger Ver's response to this because it's pointless.
		Because why?
		He just says, I've never said that in public.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's got nothing to say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is a weird defense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've never said that in public.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Say it in private all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's more interesting what Alex Jones does because he's out of his depth.
		He has no idea what the Genesis block means.
		He has no idea what a Bitcoin even is.
		He has no idea why it was up at 17 grand and now it's down at eight.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't even know that Roger Ver did time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't know who Roger Ver is.
		He doesn't know any of this shit.
		This response is really funny.
unidentified		Which means proving that he mined the first Bitcoin.
unidentified		He cannot do that, but Roger continues telling people that this guy is Satoshi Nakamoto, which is a lie.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He must release the core.
		Cybertron, the heart of our world.
		Will you release the core?
unidentified		Well, I haven't traded a single.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Will you release the cube?
		Trust the cube.
		Are you Megatron?
		Roger Ver.
		Are you Megatron?
		If so, prepare for battle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the radio version of saying, I'm out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Checked out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nah.
		Nah, dude.
		You said words.
		You said words.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you guys both seem to understand what you're talking about.
		And I'm the host of the show.
		I'm not in for it.
unidentified		Guess what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck you guys, Megatron.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't give a shit.
		Are you Megatron?
		Yeah.
		Spoiler alert, Roger Vera's answer to that is, I am not Megatron.
		That's beautiful.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's just joy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's just joy coming from my heart.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's great that we could have this time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn you, Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you about to take it away from me?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just that what we're about to get into is like a very weird last hour and a half of his program.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very weird.
		He's in a very strange place, and it's not entirely clear what's going on in his head, but it's something that's unhealthy.
		I'm not entirely sure what it is.
		We'll discuss it.
		But one more thing that I want to bring up is that Alex Jones is very dismissive of the charges that the ex-wives of this Porter guy are bringing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		I didn't want to hear him talk about this at all.
		I don't want to hear it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're not listening to it.
		I just wanted it to be on the record.
		I just wanted everyone to know that on the show, Alex is saying, hey, it's just minor stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that could be assumed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
unidentified		Oh, no, Do you not know?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I get you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do not take that out of context.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I get what you're saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that Alex would say that can be assumed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I get what you're saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just misunderstood you for a second.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, please don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Please don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This next clip, Jordan, is incredibly bizarre.
		Totally bizarre.
		But still not terrible.
		The last like 16 minutes of this episode are going to be terrible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So just know that right now, enjoy this while you go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		16 minutes of our episode?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		16 minutes of Alex's audio.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So 48 minutes of our episode.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's entirely possible.
		This is going to be a seven and a half hours longer.
		Maybe two hours.
		We probably get an hour left, probably halfway through this, maybe.
		So this clip, first of all, the beginning of it makes me laugh a lot.
		And then the second part.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then we get sad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, the second part just makes me understand how Alex Jones interfaces with the world.
		And it's super fascinating.
		And it's just, I mean, it just reinforces stuff that, I mean, we've been saying for a fucking year.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But Alex lays it out in ways that he thinks he's bragging, but he's actually revealing that he's dumb.
		Anyway, I'm going to split this in half.
		Let's enjoy the beginning.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, there's some subjects that are so big that I have a tendency to say I'm going to cover them, and then I just don't cover it because so much breaks.
		So much breaks during the show that by the time I'm three hours in, I'm not really tired.
		I'm more relaxed.
		And then I remember the topic I was going to cover and don't feel the same outrage.
		And then I feel like it's not a proper time to cover it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So real quick, that's the first part of this.
		Alex is straight up admitting that by the middle of the show, I'm just kind of lazy.
		I'm in a groove.
		I was feeling relaxed.
		And I just can't fake the anger that I can at the beginning of the show.
		So I want to scream about these topics, but by the time it gets to this point in the show, I kind of want a nap.
		I did an interview with this Bitcoin guy.
		I was eating a sandwich while he was talking.
		And I'm sleepy.
		I had this shit I wanted to talk about.
		And look, I'm mad about it.
		Don't get me wrong.
		I'm fucking mad about it, but I just can't get it up.
		I just can't fake it.
		That's what he's saying.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's 100% what he's saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's saying his anger is performative.
		He's saying that all of this is like, shit.
		It's tough late in the show.
		Which actually, I strongly disagree with.
		I find that most of the time when he's faking it the hardest, it's in the third hour.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He has to fake it the hardest because he doesn't feel it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's when he's like crying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's when the spirit gets good to him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, anyway, the rest of this clip.
		Nelly.
		Oh, Nelly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So much fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is really fun.
		I'm trying to explain why I do some of these things that I can't stand.
		And also, I know what the media's response is going to be.
		And it's not that the media attacks me and lies about me when I cover these topics.
		It's that it's not that I'm being attacked that gets to me.
		It's that I know this is the key.
		Some of these certain areas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		None of this is going to make sense, and that's fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It'll all he's speaking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the only time you could.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This show is the only time you can say that, and I'm like, cool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's speaking in tremendous vagaries, and it's not really going to come together for a while, but you'll get it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You'll get it eventually.
unidentified		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of keys, but there's compared to all the rest of the information in the world.
		It's very rare.
		And we have the keys.
		We have the absolute keys.
		We know the enemy program.
		We understand it.
		We're not that smart.
unidentified		I read the books written by them.
unidentified		I read the books.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Spoiler alert here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, you haven't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I would have been a totally different person if I hadn't stopped reading children's books when I was about seven years old and started reading adult books.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not the way to go about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So seven years old is probably first grade, maybe?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		After second grade.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no way that I mean, 95% of humans have the, I would say, even higher than that.
unidentified		98% of humans have at that age.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Genetic learning.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Race memory.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Race memory.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think four ways to learn.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The ability, like the cognitive development that's required to even really understand full sentences and complex dialogue, complex narratives are it's almost impossible at age seven.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was just about to start reading Brian Jackson's Red Wall series.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was reading the lesser works of Joyce.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, you shouldn't do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know why?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying that Dubliners is a huge, hugely difficult thing to read.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But yes, it is, and he will never understand Dubliners.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dubliners is a hit with the elementary set.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The problem is you can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Although, actually, elementary kids might understand Finnegan's Wake a lot better than some of the English majors I knew in college.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's more about them.
		The problem is that you can physically read anything at any age.
		You just can't understand it.
		You can't understand the textural deepnesses of things.
		You can't understand subtext.
		You can't understand rhetoric.
		Those sorts of things.
		And you really can't until, you know, I would say for a lot of this complicated stuff, probably into your teens.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I mean, well, a lot of people still don't understand the first sentence of pride and prejudice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, let's keep this going.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it was all because my dad loved encyclopedias, and they would not buy me very few toys.
		I'd have to go your bow lawns to get a new bike.
		It was good.
		Taught me how to work.
		But my dad would buy me any books I wanted.
		And so I'd say, I'd get home from school or after practice or whatever, they'd have Timelife Books, The Wild Wall West, or Time Life Books, The Occult, or Time Life Books, World War II, Timelife Books, Vietnam, Time Life.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Those are largely just like magazines.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Time-Life books?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, they're like magazine books.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are they, like...
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're, like, serialized books.
		They're like serialized books.
		I remember my dad had some of those in my house when I...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think I saw like an infomercial for those one time.
		Or like a commercial, but I don't know.
		I don't know what they are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you kind of do, even though you don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, gotcha.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Time Life Books, you know, the Manhattan Project and other super science projects or whatever.
		And I would, those things would come so many that there was just, because my dad's a big book guy, the whole house was just bookshelves then.
		Funny, kind of the age of TV.
		It's not with computers.
		His house now has got a lot of bookshelves, but nothing like the old house in Dallas.
		And it was just walls of them.
		And it was like, I mean, I read 20-volume set World War II by the time I was eight years old.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not a bad idea.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that was just an encyclopedia on World War II.
		Well, how many World War II historians actually read that?
		You see, and that's kind of entry-level.
		By 11, I was reading Order of the Death set.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fifth grade.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		1,100 pages or whatever, 900 pages.
		And Shearer's Rise and Fall the Third Reich.
		Then why would you vocabulary studying World War II?
		I've probably read 200 books on World War II.
		And I'm not bragging about it.
		I just get around historians and people.
		They don't know half of what I know.
		And it's all embedded in there.
		And then I studied everything else.
		And then my dad said, you want to read this?
		Zebedee Bozinski.
		Technotronic era.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this gets to the heart of the matter.
		And that is that Alex Jones read all these things that he cites before he had cognition to understand them.
		And that created a framework in his brain when he was seven, eight, ten years old.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If he did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He isn't mature.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If he is telling the truth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I believe that he skimmed through those books or the process of reading them.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But to be honest, like the technotronic era is a difficult book to read.
		It's engageable as a 30-year-old or if you're in college or something like that.
		It's about right.
		If you're a 10-year-old even reading that, it's going to take you a couple months, probably, because every sentence, you're going to have to be like, what does this mean?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or you won't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if you like, and I mean, if you are reading World War II books at eight years old, if you're reading books about World War II at eight years old, I think it's entirely reasonable for an eight-year-old to be like, Hitler was a strong dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like in that case, in that case, at that time period, it's not real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In that time period, you're reading comic books.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because you lack context.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You lack any framework of the world, anything like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So I get that.
		It's like somebody saying that the Joker is a great character, you know, like that kind of thing.
		He's a great character.
		He's the monster, though.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, like when you go back and read that shit, in reality, you go, oh, look at all of this other stuff.
		That's what a fucking monster is.
		And if you are from that very young age inclined to believe that the strongest or the most ruthless is admirable, then you get your Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if you're reading like all of these World War II, if he's read 200 books, I mean, he's, you know, presenting that as being over the course of his life.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If he's read hundreds of books.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he's read hundreds of books.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he's ever read hundreds of books.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you're reading a lion's share of that, a bulk of it, when you're younger than 11.
		Right.
		I just don't think that you're going to be able to critically analyze the viewpoint of the writer.
		I think that there's a decent chance that he might have read some even possibly pro-Nazi books.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If his dad's a CIA dentist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or at least dubiously authored books.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the best evidence for his inability to, if, again, if this is true, which I have a healthy suspicion about.
		Right.
		You can see from his vocabulary that he is unable to comprehend that.
		Like, if he had read Calvin and Hobbes when he was a child, he would have a better vocabulary than if he had read World War II books that he doesn't understand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not certain.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I understand all of Calvin and Hobbes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's very complicated issues that are built into it.
		It's a great, great comic.
		I recommend it for children.
		But I think that this and Zbignu Brzezinski books.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I also do.
		But I think that this issue has plagued him throughout his life and that he functions in the world with that childhood cognition in an adult angry body.
		He exists as this really furious, I've read all these books.
		And it's like, you don't understand the books.
		Because I can go to all of them, and I have.
		I mean, I haven't read everything that he claims to have read, but I've read so many of the things that he's cited specifically, and they don't say what he's saying.
		A lot of times he pretends that they're prescriptive.
		Like they're saying this should happen or something like that when they're just descriptive.
		They're just explaining the situation or they're explaining the world as it is and not offering a solution.
		And because he's a child in his brain, he's like, oh, what they're secretly saying is that this is the hellscape we should live in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And this is a reasonable thing if you aren't capable of growing out of it.
		Like a separate piece, like that shitty book.
		When I was like 13, I read that and I thought it was a shitty book.
		And then I reread it later on in life and I understood the depth and the point of views that are built into it.
		It's a shitty book, but it's still, it's much more meaningful now that I'm capable of understanding what that guy was fucking talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because I don't, at 13, I didn't really understand the mindset of children going to war.
unidentified		I loved housing before I could drink.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of stuff that you should age through.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or you should.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's one of the interesting things about the book.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or you should absolutely revisit as your perception changes.
		Right.
		You'll find that the book itself changes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolute loot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The only thing that doesn't is Steppenwolf, the best book of all time.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it actually has changed even in my life.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I still love it each time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oof.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you okay?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I was just thinking about the other book I was going to do an audiobook on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Journey to the End of the Night is more deeply problematic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		LF Saline is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't.
unidentified		I wouldn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, in this next clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For any listener who wants to look into it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That book is so good, but the man is so terrible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But in this next clip, Alex makes a weird claim about Hollywood.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sounds right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's good enough of an intro.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've gotten to know people at the highest levels of Hollywood.
		And since the whole Quasi-collapse of it, I've gotten to know people that are in this conservative secret society, big producers, some of the biggest, and none of them live in Hollywood, none of them want to be anywhere near it, and they try to just do decent stuff.
		And strangely enough, everything they do is a hit.
		Isn't that crazy?
		The most successful people long range in Hollywood are the libertarian Christian conservative patriots.
		Because you know what?
		That's what America wants anyway.
		See, that's the crazy thing about this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's very convenient.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's super convenient.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, for somebody who loves to give examples, he does not give any examples.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, of course not, because it's a vague nonsense thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, give an example.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, what are we talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I mean, when I think of like secret Hollywood patriots that he talks about, there's always Jay Leno, Tim Allen, Tim Allen.
		He's not so secret.
		He's a fucking lunatic.
		Clint Eastwood, he brings up, but he's not secret either.
		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		There's all this talk of like there's a large group of secret conservatives in Hollywood, and I don't really fucking care about that because I don't necessarily think it's real and I don't care.
		Because there's a lot of very powerful conservatives who are out, and it doesn't really seem to be that much of a stigma.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've talked about the rock already, which is such a disappointing revelation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But like, you have revelation, not realization.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But even just on a very specific level, it doesn't change how I think about the rock.
		No, I don't think anyone cares.
		Unless you are, let's say, a white supremacist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, hey, Schwarzenegger was a shitty governor, but Terminator 2 is still great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
		But I don't believe that this mythic secret society of conservatives in Hollywood exists.
		I don't believe that Alex has talked to them, but it's so fun.
		It's this game he gets to play where he's like, I have this secret knowledge of these secret conservatives, and guess what?
		They're the most successful.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who would have guessed?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ha ha, I don't have to prove anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's why the Left Behind series is bigger than Harry Potter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody knows this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what Americans want.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's what they want.
		They don't want this fucking wizard bullshit.
		You know that the Lord has said that you should burn witches.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
		So, I mean, he does actually have one pivot point or like hinge to his Hollywood ramblings in this episode that I agree with him on, and I'm not going to dispute.
		And that is that one guy is a piece of shit.
		I'm not going to reveal who that person is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it's more fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because it's not going to be who it should be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, this clip is going to lay out who it is, but it's going to take Alex forever to get to it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's one of the creepier things I've ever heard.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what Alex is talking about in this clip, and we're going to have to analyze this a bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the conclusion is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I will be taking extensive notes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The conclusion of who he doesn't like, I agree.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They don't just want to abuse women or men or anybody.
		They want power.
		They want to mess with people.
		They want to kick your pregnant wife down the stairs and have her have a miscarriage and have it done in your place with your people so that everybody can say that Alex Jobs did it.
		But I made a decision that even though that was 16 years ago, I'm not normally a vengeful person.
		I'll move forward, but I decided just right in my heart now to come after you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So hold on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What was 16 years ago?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did he kick his wife downstairs?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he's accusing someone of kicking his wife down the stairs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think he's revealing that he kicked his wife downstairs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't know what's going on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's one of the most terrifying things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, that, why did he say 16 years ago?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That'd be 2000.
		I don't like that at all.
		Well, when I first heard this, I was like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, it was right after 9-11.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was a tough time for everybody.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was a tough time for everyone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I thought, because he ends up getting threatening towards somebody at the end of this clip.
		And I thought, like, 2002 is probably right around when he might have still been working with Link Later.
		He's like, Link later, a fucking asshole?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's possible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did Link Later kick his wife downstairs?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Spoiler alert, it's not Link Later.
		But that's the fucking thing.
		Is he literally talking about someone kicking his wife down the stairs and causing a miscarriage to try and frame him?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck is he talking about?
unidentified		Because he did say because Burroughs was dead by then.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So we know it wasn't him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want you to scroll back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want to scroll back a tiny bit so you can hear that again because that's so weird.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Alice Jones did it.
		But I made a decision that even though that was 16 years ago, I'm not normally a vengeful person.
		I'll move forward.
		But I decided just right in my heart now to come after you.
		And so I am starting next week.
		Oh, yeah.
		People like me tell you we're coming.
		And we walk into traps.
		So that's what this is all about.
		You operate in the dark, I operate in the light.
		And we'll see how you do when I drag your ass out in the light.
		Because you're never going to get away with what you've done, all the things you've engaged in.
		And I think the fall of that piece of crap he is worshipped in Hollywood.
		Not because his film's the very worst produced ever.
		They're just sophisticated.
		But because he's a degenerate, filthy scumbag.
		And I think it's time we have people on to talk about Quentin Tarantino.
		Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I guessed that one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You did?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did you have the notes?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, No, no, no, because Quentin Tarantino was just came out, or the audio was revealed of him being like, eh, that girl that Roman Polanski raped, she wanted it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like that kind of thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And among other things, he's a fucking pile of shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's a pile of shit.
		The Umatherma shit, the Umatherman shit, like that whole thing.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		No, I know that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Monster.
unidentified		I don't think anybody is surprised by that either, right?
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, we're all like, oh, we didn't know, but yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a difference for us and people who work in the business.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
		Like, for us, we'll never do that.
		Well, no, not that.
		It's that, like, we didn't know, but you hear and you're like, yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I smelled that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But, like, we have no idea what people's personal lives are.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because there are people who are monstrous people in character, you know, but who are actually awesome.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You could take a long list of like professional wrestlers who were the classic heels, who behind the scenes were the sweetest people in the world.
		You know, their whole public persona is like, I cheat and brutalize people and beat them to shit.
		I beat them down.
		Yeah.
		And they're super nice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the opposite is true.
		Like, traveling around doing enough shows with clean comics who do all Christian shows.
		Totally.
		And you're like, ooh, you're a fucking monster.
		All of the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so there is that like that sense of like you don't really know from the outside.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But when you hear, you're like, yep, makes sense.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
		That's how I felt about Quentin Tarantino for a long time.
		And I'd heard some things.
		Never really been thrilled with him.
		Like, yeah, fuck it.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I like some of his movies.
		I think some of them are sophisticated garbage.
		I think Alex is like film criticism is even not too far off there.
		It's within the realm of okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We agree with Alex.
		Bring back the troops.
		And some of Quentin Tarantino's films are sophisticated garbage.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm more concerned about the idea that Quentin Tarantino kicked his wife down a flight of stairs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I thought, wait, Quentin Tarantino kicked Alex's wife down the flight of stairs?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what that fucking clip says.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It kind of sounds like it says that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if that's the case, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to know way more about that.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we know nothing about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would you say 16 years ago if you weren't referencing a specific time your wife was kicked down the stairs?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, I think most likely, I mean, if it's the case that Quentin Tarantino kicked Alex Jones' wife down a flight of stairs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which, ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here first.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		By the way, I told you earlier in the show I found their marriage license.
		They were married in 2007, which is five years after 16 years ago.
		But be that as it may.
		Was he married?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Was he married?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Admiralty law.
		No, that was his first wife.
		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Was it, though?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If that's the case, then I feel very sad for Alex and his ex-wife.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's awful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I need to know more about it.
		But realistically, realistically, let's look Occam's razor.
		He was riffing on globalists and what they want to do to you.
		And then he was like, oh, wait, I was wronged by somebody.
		And he's probably referencing 16 years ago, him and Quentin Tarantino got into a fight.
		They got into an argument.
		Because Quentin Tarantino has roots in Austin and Texas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And so I. Or Alex was with Clink Later at the time.
		He got invited to a party.
		Quentin Tarantino.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or Mike Judge, even.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or Mike Judge.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no doubt that Alex is an asshole and another asshole mixes in with an asshole because Quentin Tarantino is an asshole.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The two of them just become assholes together and then they have a fight and no one wins.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's probably the same thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And there's no collateral damage of an innocent person getting over.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, not the kick down the stairs.
		That's probably just riffing.
		Again, probably.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But why did it say 16 years?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm so got to know why he said 16 years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This begs so many questions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this is why I want to be friends with Alex, even though I want to destroy him.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I can call him and be like, what were you talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want us to be like jocular enemies to an extent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nemeses.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I can hit him up on Twitter and be like, Alex, you were getting weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck were you talking about?
		And be like, oh, no, that was just riffing, man.
		Look, me and Mike Judge were pretty liquored up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You want to know the Alex without the trappings.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or we can wait till next week and see what comes out because he said next week he's going to start taking that's a good point.
		And you know what?
		Quite frankly, if he just takes Quentin Tarantino down on the merits, I'm all for it.
		I'm not really going to fight that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do what you do, baby.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As long as you're not lying and exaggerating for no reason, I'm cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's so strange that Alex assumes that many of his critics have a dog in the fight.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, he's like, oh, you guys are going to defend Quentin Tarantino.
		And we're like, we're like, yeah, no, no, no.
		Fuck him too.
		I don't know.
		I don't give a shit.
		Watch you both light each other on fire.
		It's hilarious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, he loves the idea of uniformity of what he's opposed to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Without realizing there's gradients within it because he's super mad about feminism, but there's a large portion of feminism that's trans-exclusionary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, like, so there's that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, he would kind of be into that to some extent.
unidentified		Or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, like, there are different segments of the groups that he's against.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not unipolar.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, let's even look at our podcast.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're not unipolar.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You and I have different philosophical or principled beliefs.
		Like, if Alex was just like, knowledge fight is one thing that's against me.
		Like, realistically, me and Jordan both hate you.
		But there's nuance to it.
		There's differences.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, that's the thing about people with black and white worldviews is that they will always project that onto everybody else.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Definitely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So if you have a dichotomy, you will always project that everyone else has a dichotomy as well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You will never be capable of understanding that fuck that guy, fuck you, for whatever reason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It has nothing to do with whatever it is I'm criticizing certain things about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fuck you on the merits.
		And unfortunately, that works both ways.
		It's a two-edged sword.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Who gives a shit?
		Like, I love Kill Bill, but I'm not going to defend Quentin Tarantino.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I like Inglorious Bastards.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I mean, like, Jordan.
		Now is not the time to get into divorcing the art from the artist.
		I feel like that's a long conversation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
		And there's people who are way worse than him and people who are worse artists also.
		Who cares?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not important.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not our litigation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What we must do now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have one segment left to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of the good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One.
		Nope.
		We're done with the good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, now we're going to get into the trouble.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're going to get into 16 minutes of the blitz.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But before we do, I must take a quick intermission.
		I apologize because this is a late night show.
		But Jaboy got a pee, and I got to be focused for the rest of this.
		We're going to edit this out.
unidentified		I'll be back in about two minutes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll be back.
		Sorry about that, guys.
		All right, we're back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I apologize.
		Sorry about that.
		But the reality is we have, you know, we got this home stretch to get through, and I wanted to keep my focus on point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You didn't want a third hour like Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You didn't want to bring up the fake energy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, and also, I didn't want to be like sometimes when the body is doing things, you end up rushing through something and you lose track of the mission at hand, which is discussing things in the proper context as they should be discussed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't want to do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or you could say you had to pee.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I had to pee.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So let's get into this, Jordan.
		The last hour or so of Alex Jones' show turns into...
		It started with that clip where he's like, I fake most of my anger.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It started bad, it's going to get worse.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's where everything got weird because he's like, run out of guests.
		That Bitcoin guest did not go well.
		No.
		And he's just like, I sometimes can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I did go to jail for selling explosives.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's like, I can't fake it sometimes when it gets to this late in the show, blah, blah, blah.
		And so that's where it kind of started.
		And he's like, I've read lots of books.
		Don't fucking come to me and say I haven't.
		He got a little defensive about that.
		Right.
		I'm not bragging, but historians are stupid compared to me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't step.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come at the king, best not miss.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if you remember, when he was getting into that, he was talking about like, this is the key, but he never got to it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They do have the keys, which in my notes I wrote keys to question mark.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What do they have the keys to?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, and I told you this isn't going to make sense, and don't worry about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is a frustrating thing to say to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, and here's where we get to it.
		We got a long, we got long clips.
		So we're just going to be pausing throughout.
		There's really no edit points throughout these.
		Boy, this is a lot of trouble.
		So let's jump in.
		This is where this clip starts with Alex Jones.
		I think he thinks he's Paul Revere.
		It's weird.
		It's very weird, but it's also self-reflective.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a really salient comparison to make because Paul Revere historically is far more celebrated than the female counterpart of Paul Revere, who is far more effective.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whose name you don't even remember.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know that trivia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		I don't remember her fucking name because I'm a piece of shit.
		God damn it.
		I hate myself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I called you out on it, but I don't really know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I think it's a valid criticism, and I apologize.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I should know that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do too.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I have a tendency to get into the forest instead of just describing it as a forest.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I have a tendency to start getting into long historical diatribes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You are supposed to say the trees somewhere.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what he was looking for.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But then he's like, I just get into these historical diatribes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I tend to get into the forest, and I forget to talk about the forest.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not how that goes, but continue.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Giving evidentiary information out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Instead of just being Paul Revere, one us by land, two it by sea, and here come the red coats.
		So he starts riding down the road saying the red coats are here.
		He didn't say, I was there, and I saw them landing, and they were on their horses, and they had troops marching with weapons, and they had red uniforms with gold buttons, and I saw the general behind him, at least 10,000.
		He said to arms to arms, the red coats have landed.
		The British are here.
		Why can't I just say that?
unidentified		Well, a lot of reasons.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because they will then take what I say and twist it.
		I'm going to say this up front, and they're going to ignore it.
		And they're going to lie about what I'm saying because they don't want you to see it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I just want to be clear.
		I am keeping everything in, including Alex saying that people who are going to cover this are going to take it out of context and twist it.
		I promise you, Alex, I hate you, and I respect you enough not to do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So to begin, here is what he has said.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Instead of giving specifics, historical evidence, I should shout unverifiable nonsense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's actually kind of the, I mean, that's exactly what he said.
		But yeah, but in terms of that, as like a self-assessment, if this was therapy, I'd be like, well, the problem is solved.
		You do just a lot of the problems.
		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which he's going to continue to do, but in a very ugly, ugly way.
		This is very ugly.
		I can't stress this enough.
		We'll have some fun with it.
		But this is so ugly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't trust you anymore.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I know you as an audience see it, but I'm talking about the general public.
		It's in the white papers.
		It's in the text.
		Now they're saying it in the news that in the 50s and 60s, the decision was made that there was overpopulation.
		They were going to adopt eugenics-based ideas of chemicals in the food, in the water, to lower fertility, to lower IQ, to make the general public more manageable.
		That's an eco-science written by the White House Science Czar of Obama, Holdren in 1974.
		He wrote that.
		He was a science art decades later.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex has not read this whole book.
		I have read most of it, and I've read the relevant passages that he's talking about in great detail.
		I've read the surrounding text, the contextual pieces of it.
		This is a textbook about eco-science.
		They don't advocate for putting anything in the water.
		They don't talk about, they don't advocate for eugenics.
		Not really.
		Not in any extreme way, especially 1974 style.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which eugenics wasn't really even all that popular in 1974.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, because when you look at it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, if he's describing the 50s and 60s, eugenics was pretty popular.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or even before that, in the 20s.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If he was going to talk about the 30s, dude, eugenics was the deal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was a little bit different than our understanding of eugenics.
		Still not great, but much different than the Hitlerian version of eugenics.
		I mean, there's a difference between racial eugenics and strictly scientific eugenics.
		Neither is great, but there's a thin line.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a conversation to be had, but it's important to note, again, that Hitler's eugenics was begun and derived from American eugenics.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's a lot of that.
		But I have read most of John P. Holdren's eco-science textbook.
		It's like a thousand-something pages long.
		It's too long.
		I fucking love it.
		I think it's great.
		It taught me a lot about geology.
		It taught me a lot about water distribution patterns.
		There's a ton of really great things to learn it because it's a fucking textbook.
		It's not a white paper in some way.
		It was a textbook about ecological science and the parts of the paper it was written on was beige.
		Alex is taking so much of this out of context.
		We'll get into much greater detail about this in the endgame documentary because he brings that up and we'll get into it.
		But just suffice it to say, he's completely lying about that.
		This idea of depopulation even is based on a whole bunch of misrepresented things that Kissinger wrote back in the 70s, which are, again, it comes back to this difference between prescriptive and descriptive language.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, it's hard to out-evil Kissinger.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it comes back to the kids.
		You can criticize Kissinger on his own merits.
		You don't need to put him in a weird situation beyond what the bullshit he wrote.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it comes back to that whole thing where I'm like, I don't want to be defending George Soros.
		He's a fucking billionaire weirdo.
		I don't want to do that, but he is not a Nazi collaborator in the sense that you are describing him, Alex.
		That is unfair.
		In the same way, fucking Kissinger is a monster.
		But the way Alex describes him in terms of advocating for 80% of the population to be killed is absolutely not true.
		It's a misreading of things that he wrote because Alex is still reading on a seventh grade or seven-year-old level.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is weird because you might actually be able to make a good argument for Kissinger being a Nazi collaborator.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, that's a probably better than Soros.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, way better than Soros.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the number of genocides that Kissinger had his hands in.
unidentified		Anyways.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		See, I'm already getting into the evidence instead of just giving you the general announcement, then I can get into the evidence and you can research the evidence for yourself because don't you want to research the evidence, which is bigger than I can even describe?
		Bigger than I even know.
		There's always endless reams of evidence.
		It's so gargantuan that it's like standing on Kona, the big island in Hawaii.
		Beautiful island shane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hawaii is the big island.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Most remote in the world and saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Kona's a city.
		I grew up in Hawaii.
		I lived on Oahu, the city of Honolulu.
		Spent a lot of time on the islands.
		It was a good time.
		How you doing?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		How you doing, Dave?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hawaii is called the big island.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's its nickname.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This entire episode has been you waiting to say that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, actually, when I was editing clips, I didn't even recognize it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You didn't even recognize that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's fun because this is an example of Alex.
		Like, he started the clip about being like, I get into, like, I just get into the weeds about stuff.
		I talk about historical evidence and all the minutiae instead of just being Paul Revere yelling the British are coming.
		And now he's getting into the weeds, but it's not historical evidence or any factual truth.
		It's just him rambling.
		It's just him saying things.
		Yeah.
		Also, that aren't true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like Paul Revere.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wait, Best Oswald Dockey.
		You grew up in Honolulu, too?
		What the fuck?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did you go to Ali Yalani high school, elementary school?
		Also, how old are you?
		I'm 33.
		Did we go to elementary school together?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is getting weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's get back to the clip.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And prove to me there's a Pacific Ocean.
		And I just look at you and I say, well, I was brought up in the 20th century in the 21st century, and we have satellites, and I flew here, and it's real and exists.
		And we call it the Pacific Ocean.
		Here's the history of it.
		And it's the largest ocean of 76% of our landmass covered by saltwater, 1% freshwater, not counting aquifers, 2% below ground, and aggregate scans may have 5%.
		72 million areas covered almost 82% by water and geographical coverage on the surface landmass.
		But if you actually look at it like the skin of an apple, it's the whole atmosphere and our entire ecosystem is only.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's rambly nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shut up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's just listing off numbers and shit like that.
		But also, I don't know what Red Hill Elementary is.
		I'm sorry.
		I went to Elite Yolani fighting a lion eye.
		No, Lioney is Illinois.
unidentified		I don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Elitees.
		Anyway, who cares?
		He said that 80-something percent is water, the surface of the Earth.
		88%.
		71.
		Anyone cares?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But the larger point of this nonsense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyone can ramble off numbers and disconnected facts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is the essential truth of any school that, yes, you can memorize facts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That does not matter anywhere near as much as it's comprehending the meaning.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you understand when in your life it's most important scholastically to rattle off facts?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Second, third grade.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Second, and third grade?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's around when that's most important.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		A very thin, small area that we cohabitate upon on this third rock out from the standard yellow sun, two-thirds of the way on the spiral arm of the yellow sun.
		In deep space.
		I mean, again, knowledge is just endless.
		You can always blast out from any point and have unbelievable compendiums and reams of information.
		But here's the bottom line: there is a biological, cultural, mathematical, systematic attack to make having children and to make having families and to make building human societies and cultures impossible.
		From the taxes to the regulations to the work weeks to the travel to the chemicals and the biologicals to the propaganda to the medicalized tyranny to the brainwashing to start out with his audience is going to be triggered by various words.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So you have the medical and everybody's picking their own word to be triggered by it, and then he gets to just jump on whatever people give the most response to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The medical tyranny becomes vaccines.
		The propaganda becomes feminism.
		You know, whatever.
		It's all just like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But before we dig into that, shout out to John Lithgow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Choose your third rock from the sun.
		Oh, sure.
		From the standard yellow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Yeah, it's choosing standard yellow sun.
		As if that.
		What?
unidentified		What?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No!
		Refuse.
		Refuse.
		Standard, standard, standard yellow sun.
		Give me a scientist that says standard yellow sun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe Christopher Monckton.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't even make any fucking sense.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not like the yellow sun is the most common type of star.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but you know what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not a thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you know why he says that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he's a fucking moron.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What color is the sun on Krypton?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it red?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The red sun of Krypton?
unidentified		Oh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it a Superman?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it a red giant?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		whole thing with the Krypton, isn't it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that sounds like it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not a Superman guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't like overpowered anyways.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Listen, the reason I'm bringing this up is I think that Alex is basing that sort of idea of the standard yellow sun on the idea of comic books.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And stuff like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, who fucking knows?
		Yeah.
		Anyway, you're right, though.
		The bigger point is that he's just rattling off the, like, all of these reasons why having a family is unnecessary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, you, you, it's a smorgasbord.
		It's a buffet.
		He is, he is town buffet of bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But even when some of those examples that he's giving are literal, like, counter-examples to his point.
		Like, taxes.
		There's breaks for having children.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, like, it's not.
		It doesn't work.
		Like, some of the examples along the way are vague and clearly trying to just be like, I gotcha.
		And some of the other ones are like, nope.
		Yeah, okay.
		Got confirmation.
		The sun on Krypton's red.
		I can move on now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Say the N-word.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		With your life.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sounds totally reasonable.
		I don't say it.
		Was brought about to say it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to scroll this back because I don't think you heard the context there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I missed that a little bit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Enda to the medicalized tyranny, to the brainwashing to start out with, don't say the N-word.
		Sounds totally reasonable.
		I don't say it.
		Was brought about to say it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't believe it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because I'm a good guy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't look down on somebody to feel big.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're not.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		A lot of those folks you're looking down on are better than you at many things.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So why would I join that culture?
unidentified		Hmm.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then it's, we're going to ban Nazis.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Neighbors.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, now you're a Nazi.
		Oh, I'm banned now.
		You just called me one.
		It doesn't matter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You are a Nazi.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So the FCC has what seven, eight words you're not supposed to say on radio.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Carlin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ha ha.
unidentified		What?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck shit, piss, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker tits?
		Classic ban.
		I think that's the one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did you know that Alex once interviewed George Carlin?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Tell me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you not remember?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Tell me that you have out of here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've covered this on the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We have not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He didn't interview him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of his reporters went to a book signing and tried to ask him a question at the book sign.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You did not frame it the correct way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he says that he interviewed him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now I get it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there's those seven words.
		You're not supposed to say the N-word.
		That's true.
		And then now Nazis are banned, which apparently they're not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're very not banned.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it just turns out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're frustratingly not banned.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It just turns out that most people are really cool with you punching them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's really all it is.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		TV was broadcasting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, always punching.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The word tranny, which was created 20-something years ago by people in that community that want to identify as women and like men, like women, you name it, and want to do that.
		Do I hate those people?
		Absolutely not.
		Did I ever say I hated them?
		No.
		And it's not like they beat me over the head until I said I wasn't against it.
		A lot of us are destructive lifestyle, heavy suicide, big problems.
		I'm not even shutting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Might as well just take a break there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To compress that.
		Nope.
		I mean.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		No.
		It's their fault for their lifestyle.
		Definitely has nothing to fuck you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, that's the same rhetoric that was used against the gay community in the early days of that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's your fault.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look, if you want to say, like, hey, you can't say this word, they came up with that word.
		I mean, the list is long of words created by communities that have been co-opted and used as slurs.
		Exactly.
		And whose fault is that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably very open-minded people like Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Gotting those people who are human beings.
		I don't hate them.
		I don't need to feel they're bad and they have problems, and I'm this big moral guy when I certainly am not perfect.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You call them globalists.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm probably more wicked than they are in some respects.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Do you see that as wicked?
		But you look at that word.
		We got a call last year and we recorded the vice president and much Facebook.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is claiming here that the vice president, you just heard it right there, the vice president of Facebook called him and he recorded the call.
		And the guy said he's going to explain what he said.
		He's talked about this a bunch of times, so it's not totally new news.
		It's like, you can't say that T-word.
unidentified		You can say anything else, baby, but we'll ban you if you say that T-word.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Don't do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't sound true at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe it for a second.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's absolutely untrue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have left Facebook for nigh on a year now, and it has been a delight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've seen a lot of people post that word.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I've seen a lot of people post a lot worse.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Before I was gone, that was definitely there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people weren't banned for that word.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's categorical nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And frankly, you know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you know what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Rue Paul uses that word on her Facebook page.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, it doesn't matter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a different conversation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a whole different concept.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's more complicated conversation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Super complicated.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But the one that you and I do not have standing on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is the best way of putting that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other thing that I want to take out of this, too, though, is that I have a standing position that whenever Alex says he has footage of something and he doesn't produce it, I don't believe it.
unidentified		Well, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he does this all the time.
		He said he had hours of footage of Megan Kelly sucking up to him and all this and proof that she's a liar.
		And then as soon as the interview came out and it wasn't that damaging, eh, never going to release all that footage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Never needed to talk about it again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He constantly talks about how he has hours and hours of footage of Antifa beating up women at these Trump rallies.
		And all that he plays are these wildly innocuous videos of someone maybe pushing a mic out of their face.
		You're like, hey, you know, you didn't need to hit that mic, but you did.
		Certainly not an assault.
		Certainly not extreme.
		But he's like, we've got hours and hours of this footage.
		Never produced.
		So the idea that the vice president of Facebook called him, he recorded the call, it's not true.
		It's absolutely not true until proven otherwise.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that is indicative of one of my largest issues with so much of media attention is that, well, it's not abject, proven, consistent liars.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not that they shouldn't exist or that they like, it's that we should be able to learn from that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, once you become, once you become an untrustworthy source, you should not be consulted and your opinion should be devalued.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that goes for people in the mainstream, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, absolutely.
		Anytime Paul Ryan speaks, everybody should just be like, no.
		You're not trustworthy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or Peter Jennings.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So you're done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is that Peter Jennings?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is that one thing?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who's that guy who's on 30 Rock?
		That guy who's real fun on 30 Rock.
		That news anchor who lied about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Brian Williams.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Brian Williams.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These boring ass names.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Peter Jennings.
		No, Peter Jennings is old school.
		I think you're thinking of Ken Jennings, the Jeopardy champion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he does not lie, sir.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His credibility is still intact as far as I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I feel like why there's so many times where we keep seeing people who have been documented lying to us and they're still allowed to go on.
		Jordan, if you're a fucking liar that we have proved to have lied multiple times, then you're done.
		No one should listen to you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let me inject one more variable into this.
		I believe it comes down to faith.
		If you are a good faith liar, like someone who has lied in good faith, like you accidentally reported a story that wasn't true.
		Like you're in anchor and there's a story that comes up and you report it.
		Turns out it's not true.
		And then there's a correction that's released and all that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about consistent behavior.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
		That's bad faith lying.
		That is intent.
		That is really what it comes down to.
		You know what I'm saying?
		And that's what Alex does.
		That's what Cernovich does.
		That's what all these assholes do.
		It's bad faith.
		It comes down to this Kantian idea of the only thing that's good in life is a good will.
		And they have a bad will.
		They wish bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anytime, anytime you see an oil lobbyist show up on a fucking show to talk about climate change, it's like, no, you're not allowed here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because you're a liar.
		It's been proven.
		You're done.
		There's no both sides.
		There's no opinion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Spoiler alert.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've just done a bunch of research into Alex Jones' climate science guy, Lord Monckton.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but that one was not hard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It turns out he works for an organization that's gotten tons of money from Exxon.
		Yeah.
		Spoiler alert.
		Real money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, a cursory Google search should prove that.
unidentified		It took me three Google searches, to be fair.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Had to find the organization, the thing that you wanted to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but you wanted to be thorough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		I mean, like, what it really comes down to, and this is something that we talk about sort of vaguely all the time.
		I think it's really spiritually what we're talking about.
		And that is that, like, a lot of people are going to lie to you or lie to you accidentally.
		And it's your civic responsibility to understand what you're hearing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, we unfortunately live in an era now where there's enough people with bad will and bad faith who are operating, running around and pretending, like, because the internet is such that you can create a real good, official-looking website and lie all day on it.
		Or you can be someone who has enough juice on Twitter or something like that, and you can get invited on CNN or some of the shows to talk.
		And it's no longer a place where you can trust the public discourse has a rooting in reality.
		You have to look.
		You have to check.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that that is a new phenomenon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I disagree.
		I think the echo chamber is much larger now, and it's got a farther reach.
		But if you go back through history, like liars abound.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, liars abounded, but generally speaking, I think things were a little stricter before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Disagree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also back then there were other problems with like, you know, we'll just never tell certain stories.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Malaria?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, yeah, we'll never tell certain stories.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So you have like three news channels and none of them would cover something very important to or you have your like we won't allow the like when LBJ refused to because of political reasons what was the quote like we can't put this out because it would undermine people's faith in the government so much that it would be destructive.
		Like all of these different lies.
		Or, you know, Nixon kept the Vietnam War going by fucking negotiating secret anti-peace treaties in order to make sure that he could be re-elected.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And a rad-contra happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thousands upon thousands of people died just so Nixon could get re-elected.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Speaking of which, Larry Nichols hasn't been on the show lately.
		I haven't heard from him in a really long time.
		I wonder if he's dead.
unidentified		Oh, but he doesn't really have cancer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know, but he's still fucking old as shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He certainly doesn't seem healthy, even if he doesn't have cancer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's still cancer.
		Is this our Abe Vogoda situation?
		Like, do we need a timer of like, is Abe Vogoda dead?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If there is a fish, if there's the fish of Knowledge Fight, it's fucking Larry Nichols.
		We should call him.
		I mean, not now.
		It's pretty late.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Call him.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've had four beers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now's the time to call Larry Nichols.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Larry.
unidentified		Hey.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, let's get back to this clip.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They said, listen, you can stay on.
		But there's one thing.
		We're going to put this report out soon.
		There's one thing you can't say.
unidentified		One thing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's tranny.
		Now, there's so much to that.
		And I said, well, that's a term created by that community.
		Well, Facebook and Twitter judged in 2017 that it's a hate word.
		So it's gone.
		See, and once you accept that you can't say the new N-word, then it's another word.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The N-word is still another word.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But why did they choose that word?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here's the problem that I have with that logic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean, why did they choose that word?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't care.
		That to me is less interesting than the flaw in Alex's logic of like, Alex, just start shouting the N-word.
		Why not?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You pussy?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you are like, no, it's a free speech issue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why are you even saying, quote, the N-word?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What is your fucking problem?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You say the T because you know your audience doesn't give a shit about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like, it's the John.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Your audience isn't going to be offended by that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They think they're weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but he's going to get a lot of press from saying that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, there was an article in Right Wing Watch.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it only covered a slight portion of this entire range.
unidentified		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It only covered the part.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll get to it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, it's the old John Mulaney joke of writing for an award show, and they're like, okay, you can't say midget.
		It's the N-word.
		And he's like, well, one word we're saying and the other word we're not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So it's not as bad.
		You know, like that kind of thing.
		And it's not, like, I'm not endorsing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not fair N-word.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like, I'm not saying that these words are acceptable or good labels.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let me throw this out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All of them aren't good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe don't be a dick about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I really, really, like, I don't understand where it comes into, like, this is, this is, this becomes such a problem for me, and it's not just because I'm a supporter of trans rights.
		That's secondary to just the idea of, like, this is a free speech issue.
		Why can't I say things that people don't want to be called?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, well, I mean, like, you know, like, if you, if I didn't know you and I just screamed shithead at you on the street or something like that, you probably generally don't like being called a shithead.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd probably I'd be an asshole for saying that to you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Take any of the identifiers out of it, and it's all just, like, just stop.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So much, so much of these, so much of these conversations can be boiled down to don't be a dick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is apparently, it is apparently, according to Callie Girl90 in the chat room, a real big fish song, which I'm a huge fan of.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Stop it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but totally, it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is.
		It is just like be a fucking courteous human being who's hearing what people say.
		And I know, Alex, that you are hearing it because you say the N-word and don't drop a hard R on the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know that your funding and all this isn't going to dry up if you drop an N-bomb on the show.
		You know that.
		You know that your funding doesn't depend on that.
		If you really gave a shit, you'd just be throwing the N-word around like crazy.
		And that to me means that your principle is flawed and your idea is stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But keep digging.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because it's trans.
		It has nothing to do with men that want to be women or women that want to be men and all the rest of it.
		It's once they get you.
		Yeah, they called the police on people that said training on the radio.
		That's daily caller.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This was an article about student radio thing where there were some students on the radio and they were offended and called the police on it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't really, I don't, I don't, I don't think that's necessarily the appropriate response, but also I think that student radio, especially in college, is a murky territory in terms of FCC laws.
unidentified		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't have a dog in that fight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But anyway, hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here's the big thing that he just said that I think is one of the most important things to tackle in regards to this conversation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		The idea of trans people want to be a man or want to be a woman.
		That is not the case.
		is like saying that gay people want to be gay and it is not it is not a want want gives you such a a connotation of like i am choosing this because i desire it and not because this is part of my identity this is part of who i am right just like It's like saying like, I want to be straight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have no desire towards that.
unidentified		That is just part of your orientation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have never considered it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I've considered it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was waiting for that shoe to be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
		Of course.
		But that's a different conversation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That might have been the funniest thing that's ever happened on this podcast.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I lost a cigarette.
unidentified		It's right next to your foot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Stupid foot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's down right there.
unidentified		Man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great podcast.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good pod.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Good pod.
		Yeah, no, totally, totally.
		The idea of your desires and your orientation being equivalent are very different because history has shown, studies have shown that the idea of trying to change your orientation is a road of peril.
		It's a road that never really does anything but create more shame and usually more internal anguish.
		And the idea that because we always, if you want to take this, because Alex is going to eventually, I don't think he does in this episode, but he always does do the dumb.
		I think he actually does.
		I'm going to hold off on this.
		Okay.
		Because I think he gets into the biological stuff later.
		Oh, no.
		We can deal with that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		To me, it is the fundamental issue with that kind of acceptance of different ideas of life is you are like me.
		So if you are not acting like me, then you are desiring something that I find to be morally objectionable.
		Or questionable.
		Yeah, and so it is not something that you can accept as you are not like me, and so you are you.
		It's a very, it's a projection that is such at the heart of all of this prejudice and all of this hate.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's all this stupid idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is something that bombs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like saying, you know what?
		These black people just don't want to be white.
		They want to be black instead of it being something that is part of who you are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like it is like you can desire yourself out of something that you are, which I think is bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
		And there's a secondary aspect to this that Alex is really, I think really the core of what he's talking about is this idea of like trying to shut down the language.
		They're trying to shut down the ability of men and women to exist, all this.
		And that's what he's, he's going to dig into that a little bit.
		And one of the things that has never charmed me about that argument is that like if you look at the reality of stuff, no one is ever really shutting down language.
		They're expanding language.
		Right.
		The reality of, you know, back in the day when America was great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't even say those words.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the 50s.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't even like it.
unidentified		You had straight people and the queers, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the 50s.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Back when America was great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to let you continue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm being satirical.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Satire.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you had that dichotomy back then.
		And there were a bunch of people who didn't fit into that dichotomy, and they were limited.
		But the major prevailing people in society, most people didn't give a shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And eventually those people forced a conversation and the language got expanded.
		And it didn't hurt the larger portion of population that are heterosexual, cisgender, any of those sorts of designations.
		It doesn't hurt them at all.
		All it does is expand what people's identification are.
		Because back then there was heterosexual and the negative.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody else.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it was not a straight dichotomy because back then there were people who were like, well, I'm not really what these people think I am.
		The queer, I'm bisexual.
		Or I'm, you know, there's a whole spectrum of things.
		And as time went on, the language expanded.
		And so Alex's arguments about this idea of like it closes off language and all this stuff, I think exactly the opposite.
unidentified		Of course not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think all it does is expand language.
		And it expands our understanding of how people experience life.
		And I think that's a fucking amazing, beautiful thing.
		The word diversity is all mad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The word diversity does not shut down language.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It expands it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly the point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a tragedy that, like, that he has a feeling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, you know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So much of him is a tragedy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the tragedy is that, like, he believes a thing that's so counter to what the people on the other side that he's against are actually saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And actually believe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But in order to hate something that is eminently reasonable, you have to take an illogical and stupid approach to it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or you have to have a vested interest in that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I mean, who knows what that might be?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But be that as it may, let's go back to the cliff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fortified supply.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Find some more fucking stupid shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fortified racist supply.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They arrest you in California if you say that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Once they say that, now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So real quick, what he's talking about there, they arrest you in California.
		There's a law that's on the books, and it is about consistent misgendering of people.
		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And we've talked about that before.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have.
		But just to bring it back, it's more about harassment in the workplace.
		It is not about like, hey, you accidentally call someone by the wrong pronoun.
		You're going to the clink or anything like that.
		It's nonsense.
		It's absolute nonsense.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, transhumanism, if you study eugenics, in 1949, they voted at the World Eugenics Society to call themselves transhumanist because Hitler and their funding of Hitler had made it look bad.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So Julian Huxley, brother Aulus Huxley, all that brave new world says right about the early 30s.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a rampant misrepresentation of all this.
		A lot of this will also, I hate to keep saying this, a lot of this will be covered in the endgame documentary in much fuller detail.
		All right.
		Suffice it to say for now, he's fucking lying.
		Although there is a connection between the early eugenics movement, it was not necessarily a racist eugenics movement that became a transhumanist movement.
		And that is not at all involved in transgender issues, but because the prefix is the same.
unidentified		Trans.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex gets very confused.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Literally everything.
		Transport?
		That's what.
		Oh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We got to walk everywhere.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dude, that's got to walk everywhere.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what they do.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They said, how did you know this?
		Well, it's the plan.
		Now you see it happen.
		His brother said, we've been embarrassed, so now we're going to be transhumanists.
		We're going to improve humans.
		Well, that's your right if you think it's improvement, but what it means is take control governmentally of human development through chemicals, through biologicals, through culture, through brainwashing, through media, through education.
		Okay?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is all their own opinion.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This isn't my opinion.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is them remember saying all this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also, what Alex did right there is like, this triggers me to no extent, but I don't show anger really much at all.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mostly laugh at things that make me mad.
		But I've noticed that assholes, when they're talking, in the middle of their sentences, they say, okay.
		They do that.
		They say, okay, in the middle of things, as if to say, like, oh, my God, do I say that?
		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm terrified.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I would have.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm terrified of all of my ticks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would have punched you by now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So many ticks now that I'm trying to go back through and like, oh, shit, does that one mean?
		Like, I know I'm an asshole.
		I just don't want any of that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're a total asshole.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		The standard, like that, okay, is like a rhetorical thing that people who have nothing do in the middle of sentences in order to be like, get on fucking board, get on board, yeah, idiot.
		Yeah, you don't know what I'm talking about, okay, okay, okay, I'm making a point here, and uh, if you're not okay, it's just it's it's one of the weakest things in the world.
		One of the best examples of it, we talked about this uh um press conference on our live show, the uh the Larry Sinclair press conference, oh, yeah, it's full of him saying, Okay, yeah, okay, like trying to explain away his crimes in the past.
unidentified		Well, look, I, it was 10 years in the past, oh shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now that I, now that I, now that I made that connection, like Sarah Huckabee Sanders does that shit all the time, it's yeah, it's a it's a condescension trick, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a rhetorical condescension trick, also spoiler alert after we did that live show, I did a little more looking into Larry Sinclair.
		Turns out one of his big donations came anonymously from uh Sarah Huckabee Sanders, no, someone she wasn't alive, someone in Minnesota in gold.
		Ah, you know who sells gold, Jesse Ventura, no Ted Anderson, yeah, I know, and he's based in Minnesota.
		Yeah, there's a decent chance that Ted Anderson, yep, Ted Anderson and Reverend Manning might have been involved anyway.
		That's the who cares.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Holy shit, fuck Larry Nichols.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We got to find Ted Anderson.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he'd ever talk to us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I bet he would.
		He's probably bored.
		He's a rich man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next episode, we'll give him a call.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're a radio listener.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The crew's just randomly searching what I say and just finding articles that say it, putting up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's great news sourcing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The crew is randomly Googling after I say bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not true.
		They're just showing like whatever flashes up on the document cam is just like a Wikipedia article or some like eventually he's going to get into the Tyve Stock Institute and it'll just be their homepage.
		It doesn't prove anything.
		It just is like, oh, look at this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ha ha.
		Because it's them saying.
		So once they get you to say, hey, don't even say a word that has to be with transitional.
		Don't even discuss human evolution.
		Whether it's self-directed, because that's a very human trait, is to self-direct what you want to be, your environment, who you want to be, how long you want to live, what you want to do.
		It is a very human thing to be a man and to say, I want to be a woman, or to be a woman and say, I want to be a man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wish that that was all he said.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying that's the human thing or a good human thing.
		I'm saying it's very human to say, I want to be something different.
		I want to build something.
		I want to change myself.
		I want to.
		That's what we do.
		We control our environment.
		We're the only species that does it.
		And whatever we envision, we can envision at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Beavers make dams.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like fucking ants.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, just let's ants.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Rats.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like a rat king changes their environment.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They turn into a bundle of rats.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's one thing I know about rats.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's rat kings.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is sad.
		Like, this is like it's so, it's such tunnel vision about like the totality of human experience and animal experience.
		You know, even like gophers make holes and stuff.
		There's a lot of, there's a lot of animals that, now that I'm thinking about it, change their environment drastically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Pretty much a lot of them.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But once they get you to accept that, then they can go into the schools.
		They can tell your children you confuse their sex.
		They can brainwash them for an agenda where they want to be 50 different things.
		And I made the point.
		There's these shows on history and discovery.
		I don't even watch much TV and I see people who love their cars and marry them.
		This woman loves her bunny.
		And I'm like, that's just crazy.
		It's a fetish.
		It's weird.
		Whatever.
		I don't hate that person.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Spreading disease, having sex with the VFW's tailpipe.
		And the headline is, Alex Jones says gay men are bad.
		Gay!
		All over the niche.
		Didn't say that.
		But see, once they say don't criticize gay men, don't criticize trans, then they can say don't criticize people that have four parents and aren't really people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because they're not.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're something new.
		Don't say you're a person.
		See, there's another key to understand all this.
		Take zoological experiments.
		Take humans have rights.
		Animals have rights.
		But all these trans-human zoological experiments they have declassified they've done for 40 years.
		They declassified it 20 years ago that they'd done it 20 years before.
		So 40 years of human-animal hybrids, human-human hybrids, you know, five genetics of men, women, all of it.
		It's been artificially made.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a lot of people called children.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Artificially made.
		And now if you discuss that it's artificially made or what is it or does it have rights, you're done.
		You're gone.
		You're bad.
		You're a hate monger.
		And that's why this is a critical area.
		They said, how do we get them to accept men becoming women, women becoming men?
		Because once they do that, they'll accept the brain chips, all of it, splicing with animals, people that really aren't people, humanoids.
		And then that's it.
		This is it.
		This is the total mainlining of end inhumanity as we know it, and it's being forced directed at our children.
		It's not a choice to become something new.
		It's being forced.
unidentified		So here's being force-directed at our children.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's where my issue comes in with Alex's rhetoric about like, I don't hate these people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But do you mean he's specifically talking about trans people?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't hate them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, granted, they're very similar to chimeras.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's destroying the human race.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there's like, you can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't hate people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't use this rhetoric.
		You can't use this rhetoric and this analogy.
		You can't use this level of analogy game and just be like, now, I'm not comparing them, but I'm fucking comparing them.
		It's not okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think the thing that, like, that I expected.
		I think the thing that triggered me most from Alex.
		Oh, from Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
unidentified		It's not them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, to be fair, again, his feelings regarding trans people, we have documented exhaustively.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To be fair.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Only sponsored posts killing it in the chat tonight with, in quotes, VFW's tailpipe.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the thing that made me so angry is how foreign wars.
		How dare you say that people are spreading disease?
		How dare you?
		By fucking.
		Zero disease is spread by fucking a car.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that's what he says.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All the disease is spread by not taking vaccines.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or by not using a condom when you're in the middle of the park.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, always use it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can always use a condom.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If that tailpipe is rusted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not where tetanus comes from.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what I heard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is that right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There could be some tetanus truthers out there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But look, I just, it bums me out, and I know what's to come.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so I don't want to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's go into we're at like two and a half hours.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, we're not.
		We're like at 210.
		Okay.
		But also, unfortunately, I have to take another intermission.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dude!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It will be quick, and I promise you, things are about to get really bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, we're back.
		Sorry about that.
		You know what happened?
		I turned on interstitial hold music and forgot to plug my phone back in, so there was no beats going for the people in the chat room.
		I apologize.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyone is stuck along?
		We appreciate it so much.
		We have two clips left.
		And the second clip is, I promise you, Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Literally a punchline.
		But unfortunately, we got this.
		This next clip.
		So at the end of that last clip, we went to commercial with Alex saying that all this is manufactured.
		It's all nonsense.
		And the transphobia is strong.
		It's very strong.
		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like Anakin Skywalker.
		He's force.
		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've pointed out a number of things that are like some of the problems with the thinking.
		And it gets a bit uglier as he comes back from commercial break.
		And so this will be a little bit more difficult to deal with.
		But here we go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones here back live.
		There is a blitzkrieg taking place against the human condition.
		We're being put into an artificial construct for control, for reverse engineering, and then for extermination.
		That is the admissions of the globalists.
		Elon Musk has warned you that they worship AI gods they believe are about to show up on the scene.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not true.
		Elon Musk just tweeted about some guy who said he was going to try and create an AI god.
		And he's like, you're the last person who should do that.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just a dishy comment between people who kind of know each other and probably don't like each other.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's fine.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It has nothing to do with the reality of AI gods.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Again, Whitey's on the moon.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Who demands humanity be exterminated first.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, that said, let me quantify this.
unidentified		Quantify.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The whole trans movement has nothing to do with homosexual men.
		It has nothing to do with trans people.
		It has to do with attacking language.
		So you will not call someone heterosexual or homosexual.
unidentified		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The very debate about someone's chromosomes and biological preset is illegal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not how it works.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So now he was a gay lad.
		It was a gay day.
		That language is expropriated from homosexual.
unidentified		It's not to gay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Just like no one will say haucazoid, caucus mountains.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No one will say hawkazoid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex seems to have like what I would describe as a warped understanding of like words.
		Well, like, and appropriate language.
		I don't think that there's anything like, I don't think anyone's offended by homosexual.
		Like, I don't think that's a pejorative term.
		Nah.
		Or heterosexual.
		He talks about that being like, oh, I'm going to say homosexual.
		I'm going to say it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think anyone really cares.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, but even though even gay, it depends on that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't say it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't like how he says it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I don't even say that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't like him talking about anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I don't think even gay is bad unless you use it in like a you're gay kind of way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like I don't think gay is it's it's just it's very it's very similar to specific enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's all.
		It's very similar to Jew, you know?
		Like you are a Jew, but you can also say Jew in a way that is like doing a bit from it's somebody's bit, isn't it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a bit from that always sunny episode, the hard J. All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel like it was somebody's bit before that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But anyways, intent does come down into it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also, I want to say this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is a Pat and Oswald bit about many different.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anyways.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I want to say this quite clearly in terms of my perspective.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trans movement is not about gay men.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was totally on board with him the first part.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trans movement is not about constricting language.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's about fucking people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is the second part of what he said.
		He said the trans movement is not about gay people.
		And I was like, yes, you nailed it.
		Right.
		That's a different thing.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then he said the trans movement is not about trans people.
		And I was like, you do not understand the trans movement.
		It's kind of about people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Again, he thinks it's about this confining language thing.
		And it's so baffling to me.
		It just comes down to, I think, this same libertarian idea about like, I hate the Civil Rights Act because I can't say no blacks in my establishment or something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But I'm not racist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just can't say it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't want to run that business, but someone should be able to.
		It's their right.
		It's this hiding behind.
		If you look at the language of like desegregationists and de-integration people, people who are against integration, they use the same language of like, I don't hate the people, but I don't like the effect that it has on business.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or something like that.
		It's always people couching these beliefs of like, look, I love the people.
		They're fine.
		They're great.
		They should be able to do whatever they want.
		But.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It can never be said enough how unpopular Martin Luther King Jr. was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		People hated him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They killed him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They hated him.
unidentified		They killed him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The FBI allowed them to kill him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, and tons of people would have sooner.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's just one of those things where it's like the revision of your history is always going to be.
		No, he was a hero.
		He was the best.
		And it was like, at the time, even people in the civil rights movement were like, you're moving too fast.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's always going to be the thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Realistically, I think that we have probably a more evolved populace right now than we did back then.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, if you look at the numbers in terms of the people who were active in the civil rights movement then and people who are on board with a lot of progressive causes now, I think we probably have a better bulk, better percentage of me to think of because we're not getting that work done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Supports my argument that everyone over the age of 45 should be killed immediately.
		What?
		Is that a bad idea?
unidentified		It is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I had a weird thought.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel like it's all right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I don't remember what it was, so I'm not going to speak on it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't like you saying I had a weird thought about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a kernel of something.
		It's for the show, but I can't remember what it was.
		So let's get back to the clip.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Has nothing to do with saying bad things about white people, or they want to change the name of Negro Modello.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It means black beer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Modello.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody wants to do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Modello means model.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You can't use the scientific name for black people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It has nothing to do with saying their bats.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not a scientific name.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, also, don't say the scientific name for black people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hold on to that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How about that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, is Negro the scientific name for black people?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, like, it would be, I guess, Homo Negrois or something like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If he wants to say that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't feel like that's a scientific name.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Homo sapiens, sapien, negrillis.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what it would be in Latin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I think it would be: folks?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just people?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		People.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In on it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Once you can't use the M word, now you can't use in.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I remember in middle school, people getting upset because they were doing geography and saying, this is Niger.
		You said the N-word sounds so much more.
		You see the mental illness?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's what children do.
		They think that Niger sounds like the N-word.
		The adults don't.
		The adults aren't confused because they're trying to teach geography.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they know geography and they know all the countries.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The children are the ones who are like, ha ha ha, that looks like the N-word.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I remember I was a kid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so Alex is like, he's projecting that onto adults, and that's not the case.
		All of this is children.
		It's child thoughts.
		Alex is a fucking child.
		Agreed.
		Everything in his brain has not evolved since he was seven or eight.
		It's fucking fascinating how this is such a clear line through this episode.
		Even through all this bigotry, all this stupid shit he's saying, it all goes back to the key.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The key is the keys to that they have.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The key is all of his bullshit about reading when he was younger and not understanding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The key is he still doesn't actually know how to read.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the globalist psychologists are running this, and they want to reduce world population.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who does it?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Tavistock Institute in the 60s.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Again, he's confusing the Tavistock Institute and the Tavistock clients.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Still doing Tavistock.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is public.
		They're very proud of it.
		Develop the plan for Trans Nation Trans World.
		And once you say to children in the fifth grade, starting, but now in the first grade, you're a girl, you could be a boy.
		You're a boy, you could be a girl.
		So then it's, you can't say boy or girl because someone else might not be that.
		It hurts them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't even care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm past this.
		Yeah.
		Look, this is Purple Penguins.
		Let's move on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the reality is, like, if people are giving this sort of influence to children, it's not, hey, boy, you want to be a girl?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		hey girl do you want to be a boy it's more like he makes it he makes it sound like kids are walking home from school and there's a guy in a trench coat right and he opens up his trench coat and instead it's like penises like you want You want one of these.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's Slugworth yeah, to trick you into changing your gender fucking Slugworth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's nonsense.
		Yeah, it's nonsense.
		I know a number of people who uh have come up trans.
		I don't, I don't even like that, that's how I said it, but I know a number of trans people and, like their experience is uh very different, right uh to this idea of uh, the idea that people made it okay, which is perhaps the best rebuttal to Alex Jones's argument about language.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The two of us are.
		We both want very much to be as inclusive as possible.
		We want our language to be as close as inclusive as possible.
		And we still fuck up because both of us come from such ingrained backgrounds that a lot of our instinctive language that we're not like we're not constantly evaluating that whenever we're doing a show like this.
		We don't have we're just talking.
		That is not to say that we are not conscious of it or aware of it.
		It is something that we're constantly trying to learn more about.
		Well, it's a and so and so if you do say something like that, I don't like the way I said come up trans.
		Right.
		It is not because you are just how it came out of my mouth.
		Exactly.
		It's like I'm trying to accommodate with my language as well as I can because I think it's important and I'm not going to be good at it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As I'm framing sentences.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a situation where like I think, I think, I don't know, I have trans friends and my experience is that like no one cares if you fuck up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Exactly.
		Because they're like, no, no, no, we get it.
		You're not a dick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Good faith.
		Again, it comes down to the difference between good faith and bad faith.
		People only really get mad if you have bad faith.
		It comes down to the exact same thing we were talking about earlier with the hard J with your stolen bit from it's always Sunday.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, like Jew and Jewish.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are we keeping track now of stolen bits?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that what we're doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jew and Jew.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's good faith and bad faith.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Gay and gay.
		All right.
		Good faith and bad faith.
		And there is a marked difference between the way you're using the exact same language.
		And Alex is, I mean, he's a seven-year-old.
		He doesn't understand the nature of it.
		He's always bad faith.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Always bad faith.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he doesn't understand the nuances of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he doesn't understand that he's on the bad faith side.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, this is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's very easy to change.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It could be very easy for him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I disagree.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do not think it's very easy to change.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In function, it's very easy.
		In mindset, it might be difficult for him.
		It would be a very simple action.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it would take unlearning a lot of things that he has.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I grew up in such a repressive and cult.
		Yeah.
		So it is something that I am still learning.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, I'm 30 years old, and I have spent 20 of it trying not to be the asshole that my family has raised me to be.
		And I'm still not great at it.
		I'm trying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I honestly think that if you hadn't have been raised in a cult, you'd still be struggling with that.
		Like, it's just a it's it's a product of our times.
		It's a product of our evolving understanding of humanity.
		It's an evolution of empathy.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's something where we're realizing that the human experience is much deeper and much more widespread.
		Nuanced, warrior, diverse than we thought.
		Yeah.
		In the good old days back when America was great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We thought it was much more unipolar or bipolar back then.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And now we realize that it's thousands.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thousands of poles.
		I grew up in a town with five guys.
		Like that was that was it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Burgers and fries?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Pretty much.
		Five guys, burgers and fries?
		No.
		Sounds like a good idea.
		I don't know why I said that.
		Now that I say that, I realize that it's...
		No, no, no.
		I grew up in a very, very small town, and the experience was very limited.
		And so even now, after escaping that, it's still like I'm still learning new things that I am fucking up.
		Not because I knew I was fucking those things up.
		It's because I just existed in a place where those things didn't even exist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And God, like, it's one of those weird curses.
		You know, those like, may you be, like, that curse of like, may you live that kind of thing.
		Like, it's that same sort of curse, like, may you have to learn the whole time of your life.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of a curse, but like, it's a good curse.
		Like, it's always going to be uncomfortable, but a good curse is called a blessing.
		You're always going to be learning, and that's fine.
		That's fucking fine.
		Humans are malleable.
		We're not like, it's not like you have to be stuck in your ways.
		And like, if the reality was that, like, there were this movement was really trying to end reproduction.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, if there was some actual evidence of that in the references Alex cited, I'd be pretty freaked out about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd be like, we got it.
		We got it.
		We got it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We got to stop this, dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trans identity is awesome.
		I'm into it.
		I'm into it, but we need to discuss the ending of reproduction.
unidentified		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or whatever.
		You know, like, anyway, let's get through this.
		I'm sorry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's finish this class.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's do it.
unidentified		So, what is the key?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This whole trans movement is about outlawing science.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's about outlawing male and female chromosomes that is absolute scientific fact.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then he's mixing up sex and gender.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Scientists come out like Jordan Peterson in Canada and says, listen, I don't hate you if you want to be something else, but you biologically were born as this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Irrelevant.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And now Google executives, which come out in lawsuits, and they admit this, get in front of a whole amphitheater of people last year and say, I am a golden dragonette.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		A female dragon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What he's talking about?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that a child?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that a child dragon?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't care.
		Maybe it's a dragonette, like a female dragon.
		I don't care.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, a dragonette is different from a dragonette, which is not a word.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, certainly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anyways, if you would like to learn more about dragons and dragonets, read Ann McCaffrey.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		People have tweeted at me to get into Jordan Peterson and debunk some of his shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't have time, but he's a fucking dick.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a fucking idiot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But be that as it may, this is not compelling.
		I don't care what people might have said at a retreat where they're like, I'm a dragon.
		I don't really give a shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, hold on a second.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you saying that billionaires are fucking assholes who should deserve to die?
unidentified		I'm on board.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but even like I've been to deserve to die.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who do deserve to die?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've been to weird work functions and retreats where he said weird shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so many.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I don't care.
		I'm just here.
		I'm just going to get through this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just so happens that this one might have been Google.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I'm an expansive building.
		I am yellow scales.
		Everyone goes, you are a dragonette.
		You have expansive building.
unidentified		He's just talking about trust falls, basically.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If Google checks got up and said, I'm God, they say you're a cult leader.
		But if you chant, I am a golden dragonette, they are making you say two plus two equals five.
		They are making you with all these articles.
		Like, they'll have hundreds of articles a week.
		Like, Jones is insane.
		He claims there's only two sexes.
		He claims it's chromosomal.
		He claims families existed.
		And they just attack it.
		He's insane.
		He's crazy.
		They're nuts.
		They're nuts.
		It's a gaslighting of you, not of me.
		Not of me.
		So that you give into that.
		And then the sky's the limit.
		And then there's scientific psychological warfare technicians who are going to go in when people in the trans community have the highest level of suicide of any group in the world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who do we know who is a psych warfare guy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know one dude.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do we know a guy who's a psych warfare guy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's one guy who's even too much of a liar for Alex to allow on his show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is there somebody who is really into psych warfare?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but this guy promises that he's not going to use his psych warfare on Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So you got to dismiss him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In that case, Dan, I'm going to give you five stars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Steve Pieczenik is a psych warfare guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go home and call your mother.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Go get your shine box.
unidentified		He might as well have said that, quite frankly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would have been more fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is nonsense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, the idea, the very fucking idea of using trans suicide statistics to balign the trans community is backwards.
unidentified		It is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's backwards.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's no more.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Studies have been done very clearly on this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's no more perfect indictment of the opposite than trans suicide statistics.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the way Alex is doing it and the way he's about to do it is like the definition of blaming the victim.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Don't worse than veterans, farmers, gay men, any.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They have been captured.
		They have been confused.
		They are being abused.
		They are being hurt.
		And they're sucked into a very dangerous underworld of people that want to abuse them.
		Almost every, quote, trans person is escort who has to have sex with dozens of people a day and they end up killing themselves.
		That's a fact.
unidentified		Whew.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's that's that's terrible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's so terrible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's it's kind of amazing to me that for the most part, we took his monstrosity and his language towards so many different people is horrific.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But every time he brings up the trans community, it is unwieldy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know why?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know why?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Every time we have ever heard him talk about trans people, he has said the most offensive things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because he can.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because that's the vanguard now in terms of like, it's not, it's not like socially, totally unacceptable to say these things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not the N-word.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what he says.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's why he says the N-word.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's why he's doing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Instead of the N-word.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He still feels like it's okay to say tranny, but not the N-word.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And so this is an example of this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a pathetic document of something that, like, 15 years from now, even the Alex Jones of 15 years from now will be willing to sign on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When Alex Jones said that word.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if you really want to get into the reality of the trans experience, which I don't think I'm fully aware of, but I have done some research in and looked into to some extent.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is a high incidence of escorting and prostitution in communities.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that is probably not about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's probably more about runaway kids.
		It's almost 100% about people who have been kicked out of their home because their parents don't accept them.
		There's a much higher incidence of homelessness with trans youth, which is one of the reasons why we support the charity we support.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the issue comes down to, like, in homeless communities, prostitution is really rampant.
		And that just is part and parcel with that experience.
		Now, if you want to talk about the totality of the trans community, it's not a giant percentage of them who are prostitutes.
		No.
		That's an embarrassing and disgusting thing to say.
		And then to lump in the high rate of suicide in that as like a causal kind of thing where it's like, you're all prostitutes and you fuck a bunch of people every day and then you kill yourself.
		That to me is one of like that's a terrible sentence.
		It's such a bad sentence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's such an easy line to draw between how the people who don't belong to the dominant social stratus exist with a higher suicide rate than the people who do.
		Isn't it such a simple, it's such a simple line to draw of like, oh, are you constantly excluded?
		Surprise, your suicide rate is higher.
		Well, I mean, like, it's that simple.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Take even like the trans piece out of it.
		Just go back to another time in history.
		Like, go back to feudal times.
		Like, the death rate, suicide rate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, of the serfs was higher than the rich people?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the people who lived homes.
unidentified		Odd.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Odd.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It turns out that historically, people who are pushed to the side and treated like the other end up with all of the bad stuff.
		Right.
		And the people who do have all the stuff look down and they're like, eh, fuck's wrong with them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a pathetic game.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's fucking stupid.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's fucking stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then even, like, we're not even unpacking the idea that Alex seems to just think, I mean, he waffles back and forth in his language, but I think he really only thinks that trans people are people who were born male, who are actually, you know, who are women.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he has any idea about the other side of it, women who are men.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, it's not important.
		I just wanted to point that out because it seems absent in the conversation.
		It's a real community.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're absolutely correct.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It seems totally lost in his, because it seems like, you know how, like, whenever he talks about, like, the cuckolding of Western civilization, it's all just like, oh, you got that from porn.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think his understanding of the trans community, probably a lot of it might come from porn.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's my analysis of it.
		And it's pretty simple.
		When it comes to guys like Alex, it is ultimately like a fear of, is this lady I'm trying to have sex with actually a dude?
		So if it's a woman who identifies as a man and lives her life that way, he's not trying to have sex with her.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If it's a man who identifies as her.
		Yeah, exactly.
		If it's a man who identifies as a woman, then he is terrified of the possibility of the people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, so now We take trans issues out of it entirely, and now it just becomes a transactional about sexuality.
		Agree.
		It becomes a thing where it's like, I can't barter with you.
		You are not even.
		You have no purchase in my landscape.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's the modern gay panic of like, oh no, what if I actually want to fuck a dude?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not even modern.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's the very classic gay panic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're right.
		That was on that.
		That was dealt horribly in that one, what was that, one fucking nip tuck, that show?
		I watched one episode about it.
		I watched one episode of that show in one episode.
		Yeah, it was very terrifying.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know any of the characters' names on that show.
		Don't know any of the plots.
		Anyway, let's get through this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's do it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then the left covers that up, doesn't want to discuss that because they're using these people just like Hollywood does.
		Just like Quentin Tarantino says sex with children isn't a bad thing.
		It was consensual.
		He defends Roman Polanski because they're pigs.
		And they want to lower barriers of families in any definition because now people that have been, you know, pled guilty to raping little eight-year-old, six-year-old girls in Illinois just a few weeks ago said, I identify as a child.
		And the court's hooking at it, saying, maybe it's legal.
		Can children have sex with each other?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not at all.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And so if you're a 47-year-old man, you know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The only thing the courts are possibly debating is: do we put him in prison for life or a hospital for life?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is it a thing where he can be trusted to be in prison?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is this going to be a thing where he kills himself the first day in prison?
		I don't know about that debate, but whatever.
		It's not like courts are debating, huh?
		This guy thinks he's a child.
		We should let him fuck kids.
		No one is having that conversation except Alex.
		He's the only person who's having that conversation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, raping a six-year-old girl.
		Just say you're a little boy and it's okay.
		You see, it's all semantical games.
		And then once you let them play games, say you're a woman.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're going to the women's bathroom.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm not against homosexuals or heterosexuals.
		You are.
		But using the transformation.
		100% for homosexuals is science.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Homo genius just means.
		You're a male, you're with a male.
		You're a woman.
		You're with a woman.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he's right in terms of the definition of terms.
		He's wrong in terms of the interpretation of like, no one's mad about the word homosexual.
		You're projecting this onto yourself because it's a safe thing to complain about.
		It's fake, but it's safe for you to complain about this because your fucking dumbass listeners in the sticks don't have any idea of what the real conversations people are having are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's infurious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You'll never have someone on your show, Alex, who actually has a grasp of the issues.
		They'll just be more Russian propagandists and what have you.
		Anyway, great.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It has nothing to do with a judgment, but it becomes this whole idea to make people victims.
		And now you must accept every form of trans, including I want to put Drano in my eyes.
		I'm blind.
		And the National Health Service says, yes, hundreds of people a year, and it's growing to thousands are blinded.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These stats are way off.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the psychologist pours the Drano in lovingly.
		It's not abuse.
		You're not abusing a mentally ill person.
		You're loving them.
		And now the state pays and they're blind because they identify as a purple penguin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah!
		Bingo!
		Everybody put it up on the board!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Purple Penguin came back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There we are.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Make this up.
		Sounds like a science fiction book.
		Who would come up with something like this to convince us to commit suicide?
		And I've got the articles I haven't gotten to yet where they say, oh, trans is good in lower population, actually.
		Oh, who would have thought of that?
		Oh, who would have?
		Oh, it's so good.
		You can't say you're a mother or father or a boy or girl because that hurts someone.
		Your identity is male or female.
		You're okay, dump drain on your eyes.
		Okay, chop your genitals off.
		I'm not paying for it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's hate.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And if you capitulate to that level of insanity, you'll capitulate to anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anything?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I am a golden dragon.
		Can you imagine a cult movie like that?
		I am a beautiful RNA building.
		You're a beautiful RNA building.
		And that's their whole plan, admitted to end our species as you know it, using these poor people as the victims.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fuck you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you've got whole communities of abusers who are heterosexual and homosexual feeding on these desperate mentally ill people and enjoying it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go out to break.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The whole thing there, the last 16 minutes of audio that we played over whatever fucking time it took was a drastically transphobic rant, wherein he pretends that, eh, I like the people, but they're going to destroy the species.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they're fucking stupid, and everyone is just enabling them and abusing them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And listen, oh boy.
unidentified		God loves gay people, but he hates their lifestyle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God loves them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Boy, we've loved that.
		We've heard this fucking line so many times.
		It's so sad.
unidentified		Ah!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, Jordan, do you want to end this with a smile on your face?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I have one more clip that Alex gets into after this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How do you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		After all of this.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		That is just vintage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad he closes strong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		At least that's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, actually, he closes with talking about how Donald Trump is, you know, like I hate him because he wants us to succeed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's like a dog.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Make me smile.
		Make me smile, Dan.
		I don't want to hear what he has to say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's like a dog.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I say that in a good way.
unidentified		Like one of those dogs that would die trying to bring you water.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
		A St. Bernard?
		I say dog in a good way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's how he closes.
		Nope.
		But this is how he gets to that close.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it is vintage.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Go fuck yourself, Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because here's the thing: I rode a bicycle and I've been around a block.
		And I could have had sex with the most beautiful women in Hollywood.
		I never did it.
		You know why?
		Every time they didn't have a soul, I couldn't get attracted to them because it was all fake and all the rest of it.
		And let me tell you something.
		These people have no souls.
		They're not happy unless they're doing bad stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So fucking you is bad stuff?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, apparently it's not because they would have been thrilled to do that because they have no souls.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So fucking him would be good stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, so the reason they didn't fuck him was because they don't have souls.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that's why he wouldn't fuck them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're Angelina Jolie.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How's it going?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Pretty good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You want to have sex?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, you don't have a soul.
unidentified		Shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't want to have sex with you.
		Oh, thanks for offering.
		I'm going to talk about this on my radio show in the future.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Where do I get a soul?
		And why wasn't I born with one?
		And why don't I have one?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You gave yours out by siding with the global.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are souls real?
		Like, maybe we should have a larger conversation.
		No, it's just sex with you.
		Okay, well, then how about you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Stab, stab, stab.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How about you go fuck yourself?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		I would say that judging someone as having no soul, especially judging an entire population of people as having no soul, probably indicates more about you than the people you're judging.
		Anyway, Alex, go fuck yourself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go fuck yourself, Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What a piece of shit.
		So if you want, this is the end of the show.
		If you'd like more of our show, we are at knowledgefight.com.
		And again, we talked about this hours ago, but there is a great article.
		Everyone needs to put that out if they can.
		If you are on Facebook or Twitter and you can push this out to more people, it is important that more people understand that Alex Jones is probably committing a crime.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan fucking did some real investigative journalism, and it's incredible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I am hiccuping.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So there we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do I need to scare you?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Edit this out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do I need to skip this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Edit this out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Edit this whole thing out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let me scare you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You do the plugs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'll not hiccup until I have to tell somebody to go fuck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let me scare the hiccups out of you.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think Alex Jones is right.
unidentified		No!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You hiccuped in the middle of the day.
		I know.
		We are on Twitter at KnowledgeUnderscore Fight.
		We're on Facebook.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can find us on iTunes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Quebec.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can go to knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And also, just in honor of our good friend John, policy wonk John, I'd like to end the show by playing a little clip for him.
		I don't know what level he is in terms of the donations and stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do know after his research.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a technocrat.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so I'd like to give him that honorary designation here at the end of the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Agreed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified		Four stars.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
		Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
		Daddy Sharp.
		Bomb, Jarjar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
		He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
		I don't want to hate black people.
		I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much, John, for all your help and everything.
		You're a great dude.
		Agreed.
		We are ending this show, but I will say, knowing very little about the man, I'll throw a hat into the ring for someone who can fuck themselves.
		I mean, obviously, it should be Alex after this show.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it seems implied.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's make it larger.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would say Jordan Peterson can go fuck himself.
unidentified		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know much about him, but the more I learn about him, the more I think he needs to go fuck himself.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
		Thanks for holding.
		Hello, Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified		I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Love you.

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