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Feb. 5, 2018 - Knowledge Fight
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#126: February 2, 2018 (Special Report)

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about a very drunk special report Alex Jones put out on the evening of Feb. 2nd, where he screams about a segment on MSNBC that was critical of Trump. Alex also takes the opportunity to curse like a sailor and do some incredibly embarrassing impression work.

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alex jones
14:51
d
dan friesen
43:56
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jordan holmes
28:01
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pastor david manning
00:03
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andy in kansas
00:01
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
andy in kansas
Alex, I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
dan friesen
My headphones are a disaster right now.
jordan holmes
Dan, you don't have to tell people what's going wrong.
You could have just flipped it to me.
This is off to a very combative start.
dan friesen
Jordan, we're not combative.
jordan holmes
Dan, is there a hook to this show, aside from your headphone information?
dan friesen
Hey, Mambo.
jordan holmes
Hey, Mambo.
dan friesen
Is that the hook?
That's for the chat room.
No, the hook is I know a lot about Alex Jones.
You don't know anything about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Jordan, before we get today's show started, we're going to have a good time tonight.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I'm certain of that.
But before we do, I'd like to give a couple shout-outs to a couple donors to the show.
First of all, I'd like to give a shout-out to Mavis.
Thanks for joining up with the show.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
We appreciate it so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
All of our policy wonks and donors are special in our hearts.
But I'd like to give a special policy wonk shout out to someone who donated at the last minute to bump us over our January goal.
jordan holmes
No shit.
dan friesen
Our pledge goal.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
That led us to hit our goal.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
And that means we gotta get down to business and get this endgame documentary put together.
jordan holmes
Holy shit!
dan friesen
Much quicker than we might have otherwise.
So I'd like to give a very special thank you and shout out to Andy from California.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Andy, from California.
We appreciate it.
jordan holmes
I mean, when that keeps going, it just gets better.
dan friesen
You forget where it goes.
jordan holmes
You saved the rec center.
We had one big blowout last dance contest, and the rich kids from on Bullshit Hill.
They're not taking away our endgame documentary?
Is that what I...
I've lost the 80s reference here.
dan friesen
I think that's the threat.
But also, I mean, just because you came in at the end there and put us over, let's not lose sight of the fact that there were many people who chipped in and supported.
And so that...
We appreciate it so much.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
But Andy from California now gets to be a technocrat.
So that is where we are.
Jordan, today...
unidentified
Yes, yes.
dan friesen
We got an episode.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And much like that scene...
In Brokeback Mountain, it turns out that Alex Jones in the present, I just can't quit him.
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So we're back to the present.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
All right.
So that lasted a couple of episodes.
dan friesen
Yeah, about two episodes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, about two episodes.
dan friesen
I'm still digging through and listening to these ones from 2008, but I'm realizing it's going to be much more difficult to make a show out of that.
Because, like I said, he repeats a lot.
There are a lot of episodes that are like, oh, this is last week's episode and stuff like that.
So the time it would take for us to keep up with the show, doing it like that, would be like, I can't do it.
There's just no time.
So we're back in the present, and thank God we are.
Here is a clip from today's episode.
jordan holmes
You are very easy to whiff-waff.
dan friesen
Jordan, are you ready for this clip?
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
alex jones
Fuck you.
jordan holmes
God damn piece of shit.
alex jones
God, I've never seen you fucking with mice.
unidentified
Excuse me.
dan friesen
Excuse me.
alex jones
What?
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
You want to hear that again?
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
Fuck you.
God damn piece of shit.
God, I've never seen you fucking with mice.
Excuse me.
dan friesen
Excuse me.
jordan holmes
What is this?
He sounds like he's in a weird fucking cave on his cell phone.
dan friesen
He is sitting at his computer at home, and this is a special report Alex Jones put out Friday night.
I believe that's the 2nd of February.
Of 2018, where he is fucking drunk.
And in case anyone's watching the video, here is a picture of Alex Jones at his desk, conveniently not hiding at all the highball that's sitting right on the desk.
Very clearly, this man is boozing pretty good during this episode.
So that's the kind of energy we're going to get.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
This is very exciting stuff.
jordan holmes
What is this?
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
I mean, what is it?
Where does he...
Like, this is a new Alex.
I don't think I've ever heard Alex just go straight out and say, fuck you!
dan friesen
You mean this Alex?
alex jones
Fuck you!
Yeah, that one!
jordan holmes
I haven't heard that one!
unidentified
Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me.
dan friesen
That's just a little taste of what's to come.
jordan holmes
What is going on?
dan friesen
We're kind of back to the Alex Jones who screamed last March 30th.
About Adam Schiff and what have you.
I think that is an indication that he's feeling very trapped at the moment.
And we'll see.
So the pretense of this, I believe, is that he was going to record a video while he was drunk at home.
I don't know if Rob Dew is there because he doesn't give him a shout-out or anything.
jordan holmes
Rob Dew's always there.
dan friesen
Someone's there.
jordan holmes
Rob Dew lives in the back in a doghouse.
dan friesen
A couple of times throughout this video, if you're paying very close attention, you can hear the cameraman laugh.
And that indicates to me that I think partially Alex is trying to do a comedy piece a little bit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But we'll get into that here in a second.
But for now, let's start.
jordan holmes
Well, is there an endless preamble?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Then it's not him trying to do a comedy bit.
dan friesen
It does seem to go on forever.
It's a 20-minute video that could have been four or something like that.
Well, that might be comedy for him then.
Look, there are parts that are funny.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Not the way he wants them to be.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But more and more, I'm going to set this out ahead of time.
Like, I already revealed one of my cards, and that is that Alex is very clearly drunk.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
The second card I want to lay out on the table is, this is embarrassing.
Like, to the point where whoever recorded this and posted it, they're doing Alex Jones a very serious disservice.
Okay.
If it were me, I would be like, how about we don't put that out?
That didn't really build to anything.
It was a nothing.
jordan holmes
It can't be that he recorded it and then was like, boop, internet.
Like, they have to have edited it?
unidentified
No, they didn't.
jordan holmes
They didn't do anything.
dan friesen
I don't think they edited it.
I don't think there's any editing.
jordan holmes
Do you think they just pressed send?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And that was it?
They were like, to the internet with you!
dan friesen
Yeah, I think probably.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Well, then, yeah.
They should probably have had a meeting about it.
dan friesen
So, I believe what's going on here is that Alex wanted to make a video about the memo.
Because the memo got released on Friday.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And, guys, it was...
jordan holmes
Earth-shattering.
dan friesen
Huge.
jordan holmes
World-changing information.
dan friesen
It was exactly what I predicted on our website when I wrote a piece about it, and I believe you had similar feelings, and that is that as soon as it's out, it's nothing.
But once, until it comes out, there's political power you can gain from it, and it's kind of just like a, oh, that was it?
And it's even more embarrassing now that Alex Jones had William Binney, his NSA insider source, claim that something else was the memo, and now the memo's out, and it's like, oh, Nobody remembers that he claimed to have already had the memo.
jordan holmes
It's the same memo.
dan friesen
It invalidates so much of Alex Jones' chicanery about sources.
jordan holmes
It's a larger memo.
dan friesen
Anyway, here's the first clip where he starts off this special report and sort of talks about the memo and then quickly skips on to another topic.
unidentified
General Murray, it is Friday night.
jordan holmes
That man's drunk.
alex jones
We're 12 hours into the release of the haunted Nunes FISA memo, the blueprints, the Democratic Party's illegal activities, lying to get the FISA warrant, lying to Congress about the warrant, serious perjury, serious obstruction.
Serious conspiracy and overthrow the will of the U.S. taxpayers.
jordan holmes
That's what everybody has said about the memo so far, right?
No, I mean, every news source that I've heard has said that it's about trying to overthrow the will of the taxpayers.
dan friesen
Also, Alex, the reason he said tax...
Payers is because he's like, ah, shit, a lot of my listeners don't believe in taxes.
I should have said citizens.
I really should.
I don't know why I said...
alex jones
Fuck.
...and our electoral process.
With that said, we've got a bunch of videos from just today on InfoWars.com where pundits on MSNBC and CNN are calling for violence in the streets, claiming Trump is addicted.
Because he went to the House Intelligence Committee and they put out the fact that the Democrats and Obama were spying on Trump and making garbage up a thousand times worse than Richard Nixon, who, by the way, deserved to be in peace.
This is just incredible.
dan friesen
Thanks!
alex jones
Thanks, Alex!
jordan holmes
Thanks for confirming that he deserved to be impeached.
dan friesen
Way to take a stand on that one.
But he has to stammer there a little bit.
Because he realizes fucking Roger Stone worked with Nixon.
He has a Nixon tattoo on his fucking back.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but it's like, if Alex were around for Nixon, Alex would have been like, don't impeach this guy!
dan friesen
He's trying to bring back prosperity!
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is a guy trying to bring back prosperity!
dan friesen
Only Nixon could go to China and bring back prosperity.
Alex Jones would have been all over Nixon's dick back then.
There's absolutely no doubt about that.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
Anybody who has a tendency towards authoritarianism, Alex Jones is going to be all over him.
That's what we're learning, I think, is that there was nobody who ever ran for president.
In our lifetime or the last 20 years that Alex has been on air that has been a cruel authoritarian or had those tendencies.
jordan holmes
Overtly.
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
Overt cruel authoritarian.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
You know, like G-Dubbs was a cruel authoritarian, but he had a nice folksy accent behind it.
dan friesen
I don't know, though.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's fine.
You can erode civil liberties.
That's fine.
dan friesen
That's fine.
jordan holmes
All right, you kooky little cat.
dan friesen
So Alex, at this point, has pivoted, and he's not going to talk about the memo really anymore at all, but he wanted to get that in there at the beginning to lay the groundwork, and now he's going to get into this clip from MSNBC where this guy on, I can't remember who it is, just some pundit, is making some commentary that Alex does not care for.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
I'll play this video and audio for TV viewers.
alex jones
This is on InfoWars.com.
You want to see it in HD.
MSNBC calls a revolution.
It's Trump.
And FISA is going to release.
People need to take to the streets.
So, again, they think they can frustrate our election.
They think it's time to over the country.
Break down the borders.
Bring in the world government.
This is just like in Europe.
This is a takeover.
They're pissed that we woke up.
They are so pissed that they've been raping a sleeping giant for so long while we were asleep and now we're awake.
dan friesen
You're mixing metaphors.
unidentified
My leg is shaking.
I know!
I know!
We let it all out!
Here's what's going on here.
I want to talk about a memory.
We've got a dozen instances of clearly the Russians colluding in this election with top Trump officials.
Two have already been convicted.
We have...
alex jones
Two have already been convicted.
Really, who's been convicted?
They just one-up each other.
And we have clear collusion with Martians.
It's Hillary in bed with the Russians.
Again, you can stop and start this.
It's all lies.
But again, they sit there and look at him like he's this darling.
He's about to take a big crap at the punch bowl in America's recovery.
And they all look at him and egg him on.
dan friesen
So Alex is unfortunately kind of right just out of the gate.
This guy misspoke.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because like multiple people have been indicted and one pled guilty and...
jordan holmes
No, two have pled guilty now.
dan friesen
With the Gates guy?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Are you talking about...
I don't think he's formally pled guilty yet.
I'm not sure.
jordan holmes
Well, Manafort pled guilty.
dan friesen
No, he didn't.
He's fighting that shit.
jordan holmes
No, not Manafort.
It's Flynn and Papadopoulos.
dan friesen
I didn't know that Papadopoulos had pled guilty.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
If he did, then those count as convictions to some extent.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
You were indicted and then you pled guilty.
You're a convicted felon.
dan friesen
Now, granted convictions, you want to be like, there was a fight and then you got got.
But no, they just admitted that he lied to the FBI.
jordan holmes
But at the end of the day, they are both convicted felons who are no longer able to vote.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that guy is technically correct, but Alex is playing semantic games.
And unfortunately, he gets to make a little bit of hay on that, because they didn't have full trials or anything like that.
And you know his audience will certainly go along with that.
Like, this is just a fucking lie.
CNN, it's not even CNN, it's MSNBC, is lying.
But yeah, I guess, I mean, I've talked myself into, he's not right.
They are convictions.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're convictions.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And it's not like Manafort is going to get out of this one.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Manafort is not the Duke boys.
dan friesen
No, and then there are those indications, and I guess it hasn't gone through yet, but it looks like that Gates is probably going to plead guilty.
So that would make three.
jordan holmes
You should absolutely do that.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then who knows what's going to happen with that Hope Hicks situation?
jordan holmes
Probably going to be guilty.
dan friesen
A lot of palace intrigue!
jordan holmes
What are these idiots doing?
How do we even get this?
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
It's wild.
jordan holmes
It is fun to know that this is the government we deserve.
This is what America has coming to it.
Like, look, idiots, here you go.
Idiots run the asylum now, and we're all like, fuck, they're not good at this.
dan friesen
Well, you know what's super telling to me is that Fox News is pretty much on board with Trump for the most part, but it's a ratings thing for them.
jordan holmes
Except for Shep Smith, who...
Has become heroic for being like...
dan friesen
Hold on.
jordan holmes
Here's what reality is, guys.
dan friesen
Well, like, but you know what I'm saying is that, like, if it wasn't...
Ratings advantageous for them.
They wouldn't be on that side.
That wouldn't be probably where they'd go.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Their ratings have gone down.
dan friesen
I think the purest version of support for this crumbly administration is Alex Jones.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Blind denial.
dan friesen
And when you look at it like that, he's a guy who's perfectly happy to get wasted and record a 20-minute video and be like, put it out.
This is great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that should tell you something.
The guy who's running distraction for you is wasted and doesn't hide the cup.
You know?
It's a tragic state of affairs if that's your propaganda win.
jordan holmes
I mean, your chief of staff got drunk and shouted at the New Yorker without paying attention to whether or not he was on record.
Like, of course.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Everybody's shit-faced in this administration and they have no idea what they're doing and it's a comedy.
But one that's going to get us all killed.
It's unfortunate.
dan friesen
Well, if you've got to go some way, it might as well be comical.
jordan holmes
Might as well be hilarious.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex gets back to the clip.
And again, I guess you're right.
It's not a lie that the two have been convicted.
But be that as it may, that was going to be the one thing I gave him credit for.
Got to take that away now.
jordan holmes
Goodbye.
unidentified
A president who clearly is owned by Putin.
We have an investigation.
alex jones
Okay, so two have already been convicted.
Trump is clearly owned by Putin, even though the fake investigation by these Hillary people, we have our own text message as admitting it stays, has come up dry.
unidentified
Clearly, you know, the Russians run in.
alex jones
Clearly Putin did it.
dan friesen
So at this point, Alex is getting into a bit of a mafia impression.
jordan holmes
Is Christopher walking back?
dan friesen
No, he's not.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's not?
dan friesen
No, he's getting into a little bit of a mafia impression, but track this impression pretty clearly, because he can't keep a hold of it.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
It's a slippery impression.
jordan holmes
Jocelyn Elders, is that you?
unidentified
Clearly, the Russians, including this election, the top top officials, two have already been convicted.
alex jones
That's not true.
Clearly.
unidentified
Clearly this man is not full of crap.
alex jones
You just say clearly, but literally.
Literally possums are coming out of his ass here, you know.
Literally, you know.
Yeah, literally, you give me some money, you win the lottery.
Give me a million dollars in Nigerian stocks, okay?
unidentified
Yeah, look, I have an ice cream truck.
alex jones
Kids, get in the back of that puppy.
I'm going to literally take you down here.
jordan holmes
Still going.
alex jones
We got clowns.
We got giraffes.
We got monkeys.
We got elephants.
unidentified
And there's popcorn, cotton candy.
alex jones
And you'll go.
unidentified
Okay.
Let's start him over here real quick.
alex jones
Because they come back from break.
unidentified
It's the game you should go.
Okay, that's time.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
So let's hear it.
dan friesen
So he starts a clip over.
jordan holmes
That was the moment.
dan friesen
His mafia impression just slid squarely into it, the clown, but I don't get it.
He's fucking wasted.
jordan holmes
Perfect.
unidentified
He's so drunk.
jordan holmes
When he started doing that about halfway through, he was like, hold on, cut it right here.
Put it on the internet.
This is fucking gold.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
And then, in spite of his greatness, he raised the bar still further and was like, and we got clowns.
dan friesen
Well, he had to pivot, too, from the mafia thing to it, the clown, by way of making reference to the Nigerian scam.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He got tricked by that.
It has to be, at this point.
He's so obsessed with it, it has to be about himself.
unidentified
Of course.
jordan holmes
Everything is about himself.
dan friesen
I think that there's no other way to look at it.
I lost my shirt to these Nigerian scammers.
They said that President Oonga Boonga was going to come visit, or whatever the fuck he said.
jordan holmes
Did he...
New pitch.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Was he turned by the Nigerian scammers?
dan friesen
You think that's what made him go crazy?
jordan holmes
So now he is a Nigerian scammer.
That's whenever...
So they were the ones who came to him.
They were like, okay, you're not going to get this Nigerian prince thing.
But you're a great scammer, too.
Game-recognized game.
We're trying to get into this supplement market.
You got a little piece of this on your way?
dan friesen
For a long time, I've been trying to figure out...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I like your offer.
It's a very good offer.
I like it.
dan friesen
I've been trying to figure out there's various, like, sort of pivot points if you look through history of Alex Jones in terms of, like, something weird happened here.
And that might have been one of them.
You know?
Like, Team Trump is one of them.
At some point...
jordan holmes
He got a Nigerian scam.
dan friesen
In 2013, he started selling supplements.
That's clearly another one.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But I bet if you look back further, he got tricked by the Nigerians.
At some point, that's where he went hard right.
That's why he hates immigrants.
jordan holmes
Well, actually, I think he just watched the movie Coming to America and he was like, well, that's like being tricked by the Nigerian scammers, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, to the chat room, I know that the clown is named Pennywise, but Alex always calls him It the Clown.
unidentified
I know!
jordan holmes
It's just my favorite.
dan friesen
In honor of his naming conventions.
jordan holmes
Oh, It the Clown.
dan friesen
So, if you thought that impression was done, you're wrong.
unidentified
Done.
My leg is shaking.
I know!
I know!
Let it all out!
Here's what's going on.
I don't have a memory.
We've got a dozen instances of clearly the Russians colluding this election with top Trump officials.
Two have already been convicted.
We have a guy, a president, who clearly is owned by Putin.
Clearly!
An investigation going.
Okay, that's good news.
We've basically now a press release that's been put out, that's been twisted and mangled, that now will give this president permission to fire Rosenstein.
Who will now take over this investigation?
Our democracy is on...
alex jones
Oh, the Rosenstein, who's a Clinton operative, who it turns out was part of the whole fake illegal Pfizer courts.
dan friesen
He can't even make sense.
unidentified
What is...
alex jones
This is not Rosenstein.
He's our God.
We elected him.
Like Mueller.
Call me, who's this guy?
You didn't get elected.
unidentified
Trump.
alex jones
The Russian comes in here.
He tells a good American Rosenstein.
He tells a good American, call me a Mueller.
We're going to cut the taxes and bring back the jobs and take care of the veterans.
And the stock market's going to be up at 2.2 million jobs and lowest unemployment and everything.
And it's like, shut up, Russian.
Rosenstein, you're up.
The FBI and Rosenstein.
dan friesen
Who's team are we on?
alex jones
Like Kim Jong-un in North Korea, okay?
unidentified
So let's go back to this guy.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Wait, was he embodying that person?
dan friesen
I don't know.
This character is very difficult to pin down.
jordan holmes
All over the place.
dan friesen
Although I do know from the literal end of this episode, what we will hear, I know what the character is.
Because Alex Jones lays it out there.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
He says, I'm not Alex Jones, I'm blank.
He says that because he's drunk and doesn't think that his audience will understand what he's doing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Satire.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yes!
Satire.
dan friesen
So yeah, Rod Rosenstein is a Hillary operative, blah, blah, blah, that sort of nonsense.
The other thing, too, is that it's really funny to me that Alex Jones is talking about all of these economic benchmarks that Trump has achieved, and all of it, if you look at the graphs, are complete continuations of policies and things.
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
Right, but the other thing is, Friday night, when he recorded this...
That's when the Dow Jones took a huge dive.
jordan holmes
Dropped 2.2, or no, like 666 points.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
Oh, there it is.
dan friesen
The mark of the beast.
jordan holmes
The symbol.
It's time to take to the streets.
We got our signal.
dan friesen
So when Alex is talking about the market doing really well, there's good reason to believe that...
I mean, it's possible.
Who knows what's going to happen next?
But that's a pretty big downturn.
That was the biggest fall since...
jordan holmes
2008 or whatever?
dan friesen
It was since Brexit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
All of those arguments sort of fall flat.
But...
jordan holmes
Point.
Who cares?
dan friesen
That's an interesting point.
jordan holmes
This is an important point.
I don't care about the stock market.
I don't want to hear about the stock market ever.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't change anything.
unidentified
The stock market has gone up for how long in a row?
jordan holmes
Has anybody's actual wages gone up?
Is anybody's fucking...
Well, the fucking billionaires, yeah.
Oh, fucking Walmart gave people a $1,000 bonus.
That is a fucking trick.
You're being tricked, Walmart workers.
Unite!
Use the $1,000 they gave you, form a union, and then fucking get real jobs!
From Walmart or, like, real wages.
I don't care.
unidentified
The point is the stock market doesn't fucking mean anything!
dan friesen
Calm down, Ed Asner.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry!
And we need to get off the fucking gold standard.
And wait, what are we doing?
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex lays out the exact kind of danger that we're in, right?
jordan holmes
I just don't fucking care about the stock market.
dan friesen
I understand that.
jordan holmes
It's an immensely frustrating thing because whenever he fucking talks about it and uses it as, like...
Oh, this is proof that we're still doing good.
It's just as frustrating to me as whenever they talked about it and said, oh, this is proof we're doing bad, or whatever the fuck it is.
It's the fact that we're run by goddamn idiots!
dan friesen
Fair enough.
I don't know what to address in that rant, so I'm gonna let it sit.
I'm just so...
jordan holmes
It doesn't mean anything.
dan friesen
You know what?
I would like to say, just to pivot away from your...
Because I agree with the points that you're making, but I don't have anything to add, necessarily.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
But the idea that Rosenstein is a Hillary operative is really telling.
Because that indicates that, you know, at least Alex Jones, and I think a lot of people in this world, believe that everyone who's with Trump is a Trump operative.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that's how everything works.
That every person who leans Democrat is an operative of X, Y, or Z figure.
Like an Obama operative.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's no independent agents.
Everybody is always working under marching orders.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
And that means that there's clear...
Divisions and sides, and it's like an army.
So if you have somebody who goes against, then they are not operating in their own best interests or what they feel like the larger interest is.
dan friesen
No, and it's treason.
jordan holmes
They're traitors.
dan friesen
Treason.
jordan holmes
Traitors!
dan friesen
So anyway, in this next clip, we get into the dangers of...
jordan holmes
Wasn't Rosenstein appointed by a Republican or something?
dan friesen
Yeah, I believe so.
jordan holmes
I think pretty much everybody...
dan friesen
That's the same thing with Mueller as a Republican himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah, isn't everybody...
In the government now that they hate a Republican?
dan friesen
It seems like it.
But that's why Alex Jones is the perfect person to be the point man for this propaganda.
Because he doesn't give a shit about Democrats or Republicans.
He kind of actually does.
But he's able to say, any Republican I don't like, they're just globalists.
And all Democrats are.
There's a couple of good Republicans.
There's no good Democrats.
So you can just lump in the Republicans you don't like with the Democrats.
And you're like, yeah, there you go.
On the same team.
Anyway, this next clip.
It's about the danger.
unidentified
Let's do it.
Whatever he says, it's like Archie Monty beats Doc Holyoni beats Labonte.
alex jones
So let's go back a few seconds.
Here we go.
You know, you know.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
Ha ha ha!
How is he still trying to make this work?
dan friesen
This is right around when I was like, this is embarrassing.
Like, when I was watching this, I was like, holy shit.
Like, this is something that I would be like, I would pay people to not put this out.
You know what I'm talking about?
Like, if there's a video, like, I'm Alex Jones, I'm making millions of dollars spitting propaganda and what have you.
Someone secrets this tape.
Like, of me rambling, doing a terrible mafia impression.
I'm like, dude.
Hush money time.
jordan holmes
See, now that's another reason, though, that Alex is the perfect man is because you can't embarrass him.
dan friesen
It's true.
jordan holmes
You don't win.
unidentified
Well...
jordan holmes
If you put this...
Like, when we put this out...
dan friesen
I think it'll be embarrassing eventually when he goes to rehab.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But...
jordan holmes
Well, you would hope.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't know if he'll ever go to rehab.
dan friesen
I think someone might make him at some point.
jordan holmes
I think he should.
dan friesen
I think we get 8180 him or whatever that code is for getting someone incarcerated for being too crazy to live.
jordan holmes
Hell if I know.
dan friesen
Anyway, like I said, during that clip, that was when I was like...
Like, the way the impression trails out to the...
Like, I need to get back to this guy.
That sort of thing.
I was like, this is really unfortunate.
And then in this next clip, this is a Mike Down situation.
This is where I was like, holy shit.
unidentified
Oh, you're telling me this is a Mike Down situation?
jordan holmes
Why are you doing that fucking voice?
It's awful.
dan friesen
It's pretty bad, but he thinks it's great.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And so, like I said, up to this point, I was pretty sure he was drunk, because I wasn't really paying attention to the table and seeing that glass on it or anything.
jordan holmes
Clip number one, I was sure he was drunk.
dan friesen
I had a hunch, but it could just be, I'm tired, or something like that.
And then in this...
This is where I was like, oh, this guy's fucking hammered.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Streets.
This is a dictator.
This is not something to analyze anymore.
alex jones
This is a dictator.
And they were all convicted.
The courts found they were Russians.
The courts already, they're all convicted.
It didn't happen with that.
I think MSNBC viewers are dumb and shit.
unidentified
So let me go back to Daffy Dudley's Pugs Bunny on PCP.
alex jones
Here we go.
Oh, good day for Trump.
unidentified
This is frightening stuff if you're an American, if you're somebody who's eight years old.
alex jones
If you're an American, the very MSNBC said about the State of the Union, how dare you talk about family and churches and God.
That's bygone.
That isn't here anymore.
We've got to take you, make you all alone.
We've got to run your life.
Screw America.
Globalism, no American flags.
America first is bad.
By the way, we're trying to save America.
Okay, God, this guy wants to murder.
I mean, what a load of shit.
I mean, I've never heard such shit in my fucking life, okay?
This cocksucker gets wound up with this shit to go in here and spew this fucking filth in us where all we're trying to do is have a fucking life, you piece of shit.
Fuck you!
Goddamn piece of shit.
God, I've never seen you fucking life.
unidentified
Excuse me.
dan friesen
Excuse me.
jordan holmes
I love it.
alex jones
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
I love it.
dan friesen
I think in that clip, you get a glimpse of, like, the real Alex Jones.
Like, he's an angry, angry dude.
jordan holmes
I see myself as what I see.
dan friesen
No, you don't.
You're a little more eloquent than that, like, this fucking cocksucker piece of shit.
unidentified
Is he still trying to do the accent at the same time, or is that how he swears?
I think he is.
dan friesen
I think it's still in character.
But at the same time, that's fucking, that's the real anger.
You know it, I think, to some extent, by the excuse me at the end, because he realizes, whoops.
Yeah, the Christians aren't going to like that.
Now they don't care.
jordan holmes
Not that they care.
Yeah, I was going to say.
dan friesen
So anyway.
jordan holmes
The president.
Pays porn stars to fuck.
Who cares?
Who gives a shit?
dan friesen
No, to be fair, he didn't pay her to fuck.
Don't put her in that...
I mean, not that sex work is anything wrong, but she was very clear in her statement that she wasn't being paid to have sex with him.
It was the hush money.
jordan holmes
The point that I'm making, though, is the Christian point of view would not be fine with any of that.
dan friesen
No.
No, no.
jordan holmes
Regardless.
dan friesen
And when Alex wants to talk about the erosion of values and stuff like that, look no further.
You know what I'm saying?
Think about that.
Think about how he talks about how the globalists want to erode the family and religion and all that stuff.
Look at what he's doing.
Look at what his guy is doing.
jordan holmes
You know how evil the globalists are?
They want you to have, I don't know, like three wives.
They want you to have multiple children from different parents.
And they want you to get divorced multiple times.
Let me tell you something about interest.
You charge it.
That's the shit.
The other thing globalists are trying to destroy is family values.
Maintaining a kind of faithfulness to your spouse.
Globalists hate that, so you definitely don't want that in your president.
They want...
Fairness in business.
They want to make sure that everybody's treated properly.
You don't want a president who doesn't give people fairness in business.
They want people to be on the up and up.
They don't want anybody to lie to you.
They definitely hate that.
They don't want that in a president.
They want somebody who cares about them and their issues.
Definitely not somebody who breaks the fucking first rule of Jesus' follow me and the fucking it's easier for a rich man to get through the fucking eye of a needle.
And anyways, my point being, Trump is the Christian president!
He's the one!
dan friesen
From the top, do that again, but in a mafia voice.
jordan holmes
Alright, alright.
So this fucking guy!
I like how he also has a weird stereotypical Jewish accent that shows up.
dan friesen
Oh no, it's going to slide into that in a little bit.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, he starts out made man and then all of a sudden it's like...
dan friesen
That comes into play.
That comes into play.
He's too drunk to keep his impressions straight.
There's no doubt about that.
But in this next clip, he talks about the economic stuff and again, it's just funny to think about...
unidentified
Are we in upper class Brooklyn with a Jewish family?
jordan holmes
Is that what's happening right now?
dan friesen
So he talks about the economic stuff that Trump is so great about.
Again, it's just funny to recognize that this is being recorded on the literal day that the stock market crashed hardest it has in years.
unidentified
Frightening stuff if you're an American.
If you're somebody who's 80 years old and sitting at home and you've watched the greatness of this country.
You should be terrified.
And if you're a 12-year-old and the future is in front of you, this is terrifying.
This is not terrifying.
alex jones
It's terrifying the stock market coming back and 2 million, 2 million plus jobs and thousands of companies and Apple coming back and the fastest growth of small businesses ever and doubling the amount of people taking care of the veterans and old people having a future in the border.
It's just frightening.
We were running this country into a fucking hole.
jordan holmes
Is that Bluto?
alex jones
something.
unidentified
We sold out to China.
alex jones
We sold out to everybody.
And now they come back.
jordan holmes
John Travolta.
alex jones
They remove us.
And even let us keep all our stolen money.
We got to piss on these people.
They're not good for America.
Hillary knows.
She's got to take care of you.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
dan friesen
Again, there at the end is where it's like, this is sad.
You remember that video that went around of David Hasselhoff trying to eat that cheeseburger?
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yes, I recall.
dan friesen
This is the propaganda version of that to me.
This is where Alex Jones' daughter should show him this video and be like, you need help.
You need fucking help.
You're a major public figure.
You can't do this stuff.
This underlies and hurts.
Your credibility.
Well, it would in another world.
unidentified
Dad, dad.
dan friesen
Somehow it doesn't now.
jordan holmes
This is why you weren't up for the Baywatch remake.
Dad.
Alex, they were never going to put you up because you're too shit-faced on air.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You need to lose 40 pounds, too.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Man.
Just take more Supermail.
He should.
That's how you do it.
That's how you lose weight.
jordan holmes
That's how Hasselhoff got the job in the first place.
dan friesen
There's no doubt about that.
jordan holmes
Proto-male vitality is what they called it back then.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex Jones, I didn't cut out anything.
This is more or less just segments of the 20 minutes.
I like to give you a full picture of what's going on.
jordan holmes
We're not taking anything out of context.
dan friesen
He pivots from this economic nonsense into screaming about his perceived victimhood.
alex jones
Analyzing pundit.
unidentified
People, this is a, we need a revolution at this point.
And I'm not doing TV here, and I'm not going, we need a revolution there.
alex jones
You're getting one, you son of a bitch.
We need people in the streets like our Antifa, funded by George Soros, to go out and point guns at reporters and beat people up.
We need to intimidate them and censor them on the internet more, because they don't want to be under our control, and we've got these big sets in the CPC, and we stay up here, and we try to...
dan friesen
Is this impression starting to sound familiar?
jordan holmes
Hal Lublin?
unidentified
Nope.
Nope.
Okay.
alex jones
Real quick.
jordan holmes
This is Bernie?
He's switched into Bernie now?
dan friesen
Yeah, with no announcement, he's switched into Bernie.
unidentified
With no change.
jordan holmes
He's just doing Bernie.
dan friesen
He's going to do Bernie for the rest of the episode.
jordan holmes
Why did he do Bernie?
dan friesen
Unclear.
jordan holmes
Where did Bernie come from?
dan friesen
Unclear.
But at the same time, there's no proof of connection with the Kremlin.
Well, you did say on your show that you have been in contact with Russian intelligence before, so there's that.
But also, he's misrepresenting this Wall Street Journal article.
They're not saying they're going to censor Infowars or take them down.
What they're suggesting is, and I'm not sure I actually 100% agree with this as a format, but what they're talking about is on YouTube, Right.
about so you can watch Alex Jones's video but on the sidebar there would be like what this is really about that sort of thing yeah Right.
don't know if that's effective, but it's not censorship.
It's more like people actually trying to take a proactive stance against your bullshit.
Like fact checking isn't silencing free speech.
It's just letting people know this person is fucking lying to you.
Right.
I've read these articles and that's what they're talking about.
There's no, like, next week Infowars is dead.
jordan holmes
Anything like that.
The argument is nothing to do with free speech or the First Amendment or anything like that.
The argument is, why aren't you letting me live in the world I want to live in?
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Why aren't...
dan friesen
I've tricked people into believing my shit for this long.
Why are you getting in the way of that?
jordan holmes
Or if you're one of the people.
If you are one of the Alex Jones listeners, you don't want a video coming up that says what you believe is wrong.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Chances are that wouldn't be effective.
It would only do the opposite of what's intended.
dan friesen
And that's why I'm not certain it's a...
jordan holmes
It would just make people angry while they're watching Alex...
While they're watching Alex Jones talk, they're getting what they would think is a literal example of why Alex Jones is right on the side.
dan friesen
And you'd just have these fact-checking sites and...
Fact-checking videos and stuff like that.
Whatever that is, become the new victim.
Or the new bad guy.
Not victim.
I was in Alex Jones' head.
It's the same thing with them trying to take on Snopes and PolitiFact and stuff like that.
And being like, they're fucking evil!
They're funded by Soros!
And stuff like that.
When it's like, all you're mad about is that they actually document the things that you're lying about.
That's all that's going on there.
jordan holmes
Although then we could get a nice comedy moment on Alex Jones' show is whenever he's like, okay, if you're watching this in full screen on YouTube, shrink it down.
See this video over here to the right of me?
That thing's bullshit.
All right.
dan friesen
Fucking piece of shit.
jordan holmes
Full screen again.
Full screen again.
dan friesen
Fucking piece of shit.
jordan holmes
These fucking liars over here.
I don't even know.
Insert MSNBC or whatever the fuck it is over there.
dan friesen
Although...
jordan holmes
You fucking pieces of shit.
dan friesen
Although, it does introduce a possibility for us to get a job.
If someone needs to make those videos...
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Or if somebody would just like two dedicated trolls to...
dan friesen
I think ours are perfect.
Yeah, that's true.
alex jones
Shut up those Americans!
Oh, hold on to your tin-fold hat!
Alex Jones, YouTube's coming for you!
YouTube announces they're going to censor us and shut us down!
That isn't proof that we were right!
unidentified
No!
alex jones
Hold on to your tin-fold hat when we silence you!
Because the new American way to fight the dictatorship is to stop the tax cuts, stop the jobs coming back, stop taking care of the veterans, stop securing the border.
That's how you do it.
You shut the free speech down.
That's how you fight the dictator.
jordan holmes
We're getting into Lenny from A Bison Man.
alex jones
He's bet with the establishment he's going to beat America.
dan friesen
So again, this is nonsense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this doesn't make any sense.
dan friesen
It's all perceived victimhood.
And in this next clip, Alex is legitimately lost.
The character doesn't make sense anymore.
Whoa!
jordan holmes
You are giving him a lot of credit.
dan friesen
Well, fair.
With the anymore?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He started in a mafia thing, switched to Pennywise, hit the clown, and then went to Bernie.
jordan holmes
Almost instinctively went to Bernie.
dan friesen
Yeah, almost like he has some sort of vested interest in mocking people who sound Jewish.
But anyway, here's this next clip.
He's completely lost in the character.
unidentified
Well, you know what is interesting?
I mean, I talked to a person who's a former top intelligence official for this country.
alex jones
Former top intelligence?
You mean Clapper?
They told us there was no way to stay spying because they did perjury?
Maybe Brennan said they were going to kill the president.
dan friesen
That's not true.
alex jones
We've got to go up on TV and look tough.
Our people are scared.
We're losing our networks inside that are running scams.
Your money's going to get cut off.
The Saudi money...
We're back into made man territory.
You gotta go in there and say we're gonna kill him on TV.
That'll make our people feel like we're still in charge.
'Cause he's almost beat us.
America almost beat us.
The Chinese money's about to dry up and we can't deliver.
And the takeover of Hollywood's almost getting killed, too.
They already took over MS. It's in the news.
The Washington Post just reported every major university is Communist Chinese funded now.
unidentified
They got off the Saudi money and the Soros money.
And they're that close to cutting off all our money.
And you go bully the Americans, and you shut them the fuck up.
alex jones
Okay?
And you tell them they're Russians, and you punch them in the fucking face.
And you tell them, "You don't take care of fucking Americans, and you don't get fucking tax cuts, you goddamn fucking commie!" While we promote socialism and Bernie Sanders.
Listen, you fucking Americans, shut your fucking mouth!
You ain't getting your fucking country back.
Google Twitter Bezos is gonna beat you!
We're gonna beat you!
Fucking America!
I fucking like her!
The intelligence chief, he says we're gonna beat America!
unidentified
Fuck yeah!
alex jones
Hmm.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
So, what do you got?
unidentified
If...
jordan holmes
This is actually a new college course that I'm teaching.
I'm doing an adjunct professorship at the U of IC.
And it is just...
I wish I hadn't said that.
U of I Champagne.
It is just re-listening to that clip over and over and over again.
And if by the end of the course you can figure out how his brain went from A to point...
dan friesen
Alphanumeric over there, then you get an A. I mean, it would be a stupendous exercise for a college course in exegesis.
Trying to figure out from the text, it would be more riddling than decoding the Dead Sea Scrolls.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's easy.
dan friesen
Like, what in the fuck?
jordan holmes
That's easy.
dan friesen
On the page, that sounds terrible.
unidentified
At least with his impression, you're like, we can laugh at it, but on the page, oh boy.
jordan holmes
When he started going from one place to the other, I almost wanted to put up like...
On the wall, like, pictures of his idea and tie string from, like, a serial killer.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like a journalist going after a serial killer just being like, how did we get from here to here?
What is going on here?
How is this connected to...
And why is he sounding like the bulldog from All Dogs Go to Heaven?
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, none of it makes sense and none of it's real.
jordan holmes
Neither is the bulldog from All Dogs Go to Heaven.
dan friesen
Don't say that.
jordan holmes
How dare you.
dan friesen
So, you know what he's talking about there with the Chinese funding?
jordan holmes
No!
No!
The answer's no!
dan friesen
A little while back, the story came out, I believe it was in Politico, about these things called Confucius Institutes that have started to be popping up in...
jordan holmes
Confucius.
dan friesen
Right.
There's a number of them that have, I think it's like 100 universities in the United States currently have Confucius Institute at them.
And they are actually a little bit of a murky territory in that they are bodies that are sanctioned on campuses.
And what they do is they help with teaching about Chinese culture and language lessons.
Which is a great service to a lot of universities that don't have the resources for those sorts of classes, particularly the language stuff.
jordan holmes
Does all the funding eventually shade back into a place where they could influence people's opinions on China?
dan friesen
A little bit.
That's what kind of gets murky about it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not great.
dan friesen
The Confucius Institutes are tied to a propaganda wing of the Chinese government.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And they teach that Taiwan is a part of China.
That's not great.
They teach that Tibet is a formula.
jordan holmes
Some problematic things there.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't know how I feel about that.
dan friesen
I don't feel great about it either, but they're not funding the university.
It's that these universities have allowed them to operate as a little piece of the university.
It's not like they've taken over the university or that communist Chinese are even funding the university.
It's that there are these cultural centers that are all connected, which, again, I think...
jordan holmes
I think that's a problem.
I'm going to go with my issue has nothing to do with the government that is funding it or where it came from.
It is just like if you were reading a blog or something like that.
You should have sponsored content clearly labeled if it's sponsored content.
So if you're getting a Chinese language course, that's awesome, but there should also be sponsored content from people who want to make sure you only know their picture of China.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Like that kind of a thing.
dan friesen
And even as innocuous as just teaching language may seem, there are opportunities for you to infuse...
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
...a biased slant even through that, even through something as simple as that.
jordan holmes
Taiwan has always been a part of China.
Now repeat that back in Mandarin.
dan friesen
Right, right.
There are subtle things that can be done.
And like I said, I think that that's something that probably merits a much larger conversation, but it's not what Alex Jones is presenting it as, that all of the...
Universities are funded by the communist Chinese.
jordan holmes
Well, that's true.
dan friesen
That's not true at all.
And most of the big major universities don't have these on them.
They're kind of smaller colleges.
jordan holmes
Because they're a bit embarrassing.
dan friesen
Well, I think the only big universities that I remember in this article specifically referenced were like UNC, University of Iowa, George Washington in St. Louis.
So there aren't a ton.
I think it's mostly in smaller state schools.
jordan holmes
That's weird, because famously, George Washington hated the Chinese.
dan friesen
Well, but, okay, I get what you're doing.
But also...
jordan holmes
Thanks.
dan friesen
Right.
Alright, moving on.
jordan holmes
Accepted.
dan friesen
These centers wouldn't serve any purpose to larger schools because they already have Chinese culture departments and they already have Chinese language, whereas smaller schools would gain a benefit out of being able to offer those courses, whereas the sort of stick that's attached to the carrot is...
jordan holmes
Or advertise that they offer those courses.
dan friesen
Right, right.
And then the stick attached to the carrot that you get hit with is the Chinese propaganda.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because of that, I'm against it, but I kind of understand why it exists.
I think we need to have another...
jordan holmes
If it were a non-profit, if it was an independent source of funding going around saying, here, we need more people to teach Chinese language and culture.
Awesome.
That's great.
unidentified
If it is Goebbels...
jordan holmes
One, why is he teaching Chinese propaganda?
dan friesen
That's weird.
jordan holmes
Is he still alive?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's a larger question.
dan friesen
I don't think he is.
jordan holmes
Three, that's bad.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's bad any time you teach propaganda, quite frankly.
I'll say that.
I'll go out on a limb and say that.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And seeing as that's sort of the point of our podcast, I can't in good conscience be in favor of these Confucius Institutes, but I see the bigger picture of them, and I know that it's not...
Really for me to decide whether they're good or bad.
I don't have enough information, but I do think that people should be talking about it.
jordan holmes
Sponsored content.
dan friesen
And like I said, a lot of this has just recently come out in terms of reporting on it in Politico.
And I think that the conversation will grow over time as more information is found out about these places.
But Alex Jones' take on it is fucking stupid.
But his next take is even worse.
unidentified
Democratic and Republican presidents.
Who's just as mad as you are?
I mean, you, and this form of...
alex jones
And then she validates.
We need fucking takeover.
Fucking stop him.
Go in the streets.
Stop trope.
Stop it.
She's like, I'll be intelligent.
She agrees.
I'll be validating what she just said.
unidentified
All after three years old watching these fucking pieces of shit.
alex jones
I mean, this is the fuck that I'm wearing.
These are the people sold out to foreign countries that were this close to bankrupting us forever and capturing America.
But guess what, fuckers?
Just like Von Bismarck said, God loves children drunks in the United States of America.
Fucks.
dan friesen
Yeah, you fucks.
First of all, that's not the quote.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, I don't think that's the quote.
dan friesen
It is until he said, you fucks.
The rest of it is right.
Also, it's kind of a tell whenever you're like, God loves Americans, children, and drunks, you fucks.
It's kind of like, you're...
Two of those.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you're acting like the third.
jordan holmes
You're more than enough of those to be happy.
dan friesen
So this mentality, though...
jordan holmes
Anytime somebody pulls a famous quote to justify their ignorance, that's not a good sign.
dan friesen
No.
But the thing I want to talk about more is this idea that what he's saying is these MSNBC people who are saying things that he doesn't like or that he disagrees with are the fucking enemy, these fucking piles of shit.
Because we only have to go back about a week to this Time article, this article out of Time.
A man calling CNN fake news has been arrested after allegedly threatening to kill the network's employees.
A Michigan man has been arrested for allegedly threatening to carry out a mass shooting at CNN's Atlanta headquarters and a series of hostile phone calls earlier this month.
The man threatened CNN operators in 22 separate phone calls on January 9th and 10th in which he allegedly called the network fake news and threatened CNN employees with violence, Atlanta CBS affiliate WGCL-TV reported.
Quote, I'm coming to gun you all down, he reportedly said.
Quote, So he got arrested.
Yep.
jordan holmes
I'm just thinking of more famous quotes that could be improved by adding you fucks at the end of it.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Ask not what your country can do for you.
dan friesen
Ich bin ein Berliner, you fucks.
Look, I understand, but...
jordan holmes
Tear down this wall, you fucks.
unidentified
I am not a crook, you fucks.
dan friesen
Now we're just doing presidential quotes, though.
We could go all over the place.
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn, you fucks.
jordan holmes
Ah, you just put your lips together and blow, you fucks.
dan friesen
Fucker up and blow.
So, but you understand what I'm saying?
Like, quite frankly, I mean, it's one thing to be concerned with the state of the media and to be like, everyone needs to do a better job, which I think we both agree with wholeheartedly.
But it's another thing to be like, these people are the fucking enemy.
Because even as much as we hate Alex Jones, in this show that we've been doing for a year, we're not saying he's the enemy.
We're saying this is a major problem.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That no one should fucking hurt him.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Maybe you scream about it, but...
unidentified
Well, I...
dan friesen
That's in character.
unidentified
Physical...
dan friesen
That's politically.
jordan holmes
You are very...
dan friesen
Politically.
jordan holmes
You are very smart to say this for me.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
You know, that mentality leads to stuff like that guy going to shoot up.
jordan holmes
I mean, Alex exemplifies the enemy, and that is not a person.
It is the brain disease.
dan friesen
Stupidity.
jordan holmes
That's what we're really railing against, is the people who take advantage of this flaw in the human mind's processing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what really we're going against.
And we'd like to...
Like, there should be a bug patch.
For humans.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Just to...
dan friesen
Like, download a patch?
jordan holmes
Yeah, just update humans' processing system to get them past all of this shitty viral software.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, that's really what's...
Like, everybody we're talking about just has too many pop-ups on their browser all the time.
dan friesen
Yeah, somewhat, and they think they're real.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or they click on weird side ads, or...
Yeah, yeah.
They're using Netscape Navigator.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
They need to fucking bump it up to Mozilla or whatever.
unidentified
I don't fucking know.
jordan holmes
I don't know why everything is going so slow.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's a fair point.
Yeah, I think you're probably right.
But at the same time, I would never call Alex Jones' listeners or Alex the enemy because that brain virus that we're describing and talking about, and even in the case of Alex, I think he's too far gone, quite frankly, personally, like himself.
But anyone who believes the stuff he believes, if they just read stuff, they have the potential to get over it.
Studies have been done over and over again that people...
Are much more malleable than we think.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the idea that like, oh no, you're trapped in this.
You believe this stuff.
You're stuck there.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
No, people can change.
If they are motivated to or care, they can change quite easily.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And I believe that.
And that is why even if these people are fucking, like, Alex is fucking stupid and he is advocating for stupidity, I still don't harbor like, you're the enemy.
It's like, you need to work harder.
That's what I would say.
You need to look more into the things you believe.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because they're fucking dumb.
They're fucking dumb.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And maybe some of this is me projecting how much research I've been doing for Endgame.
Like, just the easily pick-apartable narratives about, like, why he believes there's a new world order to begin with.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, that sort of stuff is even stupid.
Anybody who actually reads the documents that he cites wouldn't.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but then at the same time, I also think that what we're fighting with Alex is not just his propensity for stupidity, so much as it is his brain operates on a non-linear...
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Especially when he's drunk.
jordan holmes
Yeah, oh boy.
If you followed along with his laundry list of things that he doesn't like.
dan friesen
Laundry list of people who are fucks.
jordan holmes
Really, he's just laundry list.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If you follow along with that, you see that what is really going on is if you were to go up to him with all of this, look into this further.
Here's another reference for you.
He's just going to bounce on to the next one.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then you say, okay, well, sweet.
I'm prepared for this.
Here's a look into this.
He's going to bounce on to the next one.
He's not capable of focusing on anything long enough to get to that point.
dan friesen
And he knows.
jordan holmes
So he's like a perfect storm of dumb enough to be sucked into the virus.
Mentally incapable of focusing long enough to break himself out of it.
dan friesen
I think that mentally incapable of focusing is kind of intentional because I think on some level he knows that his evidence is flimsy.
And the tactic of jumping around from one topic to the next is his way of never really having to stand behind one of them.
Because if he did believe, like, let's say Oklahoma City was really legitimately faked, he could dedicate his entire life to proving that.
If he believes he has proof...
Then that would be major.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That would be very big.
And if he would do that, instead of jumping around to X, Y, Z, A, B, C, D, E, F, G, fucking nonsense distraction narratives, if he were to do that, then that would achieve the goal he sets out to do.
You know what I'm saying?
The distraction, the jumping around from thread to thread to thread is his way of never having to come to Jesus to a certain extent and recognize the fact that the things that he's saying, he knows they aren't real.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, at the same time, though, I think it's a question of pathology versus responsibility.
Like, to me, I don't feel like he is capable of that because of a pathology.
Because it is a...
dan friesen
Oh, he's fucked up.
unidentified
Don't get me wrong.
jordan holmes
Because it's a disease.
And it's not like alcoholism in...
dan friesen
It is like alcoholism.
jordan holmes
Well, alcoholism plays a part in his disease.
dan friesen
Certainly.
jordan holmes
But it is more with the way that his brain actually functions.
Because when you say, you know, you could dedicate your whole life to proving that the OKC thing was...
He would say to you, I've already done it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So why would I dedicate my whole life to it?
I've got other things to also prove.
dan friesen
Well...
jordan holmes
Like, so, to him, the work is done.
It wasn't even hard.
It wasn't even hard to look into this and disprove that.
dan friesen
You just assert it.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, we could go off on this for a long time, and let's put a pin in this and move on.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Because the next four clips that I have, I have no idea what's going on in them.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
They just have various titles that I'm like, I guess this is what he's talking about.
This next clip is called Democrats are Big Ol'Criminals.
unidentified
Because you are.
I mean, you, and this former, and he said, you know, where's the DNI?
I mean, where did the head of the CIA come down on this?
Where did the head, where did the DNI come down on this?
Where did the president's, where did any of you stand on the release of classified information to be used classified?
alex jones
Classified info.
It's kind of like they said WikiLeaks is bad, but they ignored all the crimes they committed.
Classified is them going to get their fake warrants that they denied they did and proving perjury.
That's all.
But now, some of the left is so concerned about national security and has a fetish for the CIA and the FBI.
jordan holmes
That's a very serious question, though, Dan.
Is there an FBI wiener?
dan friesen
I don't know, but I think that's probably a fairly misogynistic way for him to end this.
jordan holmes
I would probably say so.
unidentified
Is there an FBI wiener I can suck because I'm a girl on TV and I don't have any fucking credentials to be here?
dan friesen
That's kind of what he's getting at.
jordan holmes
That was a great Bernie Sanders impression.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Thank you.
You know, I don't know.
I think that the MSNBC anchor probably had a pretty decent point that all of these people who are railing on abuses of FISA court, they still all voted for 702 to be repassed a little while ago.
This is all such nonsense.
And Alex Jones is fucking around with pronoun reference.
He's like, WikiLeaks, they ignore it, but they ignore all the crimes they committed.
Alex, you might want to tighten that up.
Yeah.
unidentified
You might want to tighten that one up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Because what you're trying to say is the crimes that were in the emails, but what you actually said is people ignore the crimes WikiLeaks has committed.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Which is an interesting, much more interesting conversation.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, because that's a good point.
Right.
unidentified
That's a...
jordan holmes
Beyond all of the dumb shit that he said, which was staggering, even in such a short period of time, there are a couple of very good points there insofar as the FISA court, so much as you want to say, like, oh, well, they had to go to it every 90 days and present new information that would justify that.
At the same time, part of what Snowden released...
Proved that the FISA court is essentially a rubber stamp court.
Like, they've only turned down, like, three...
Whenever Snowden released the information, they'd only turned down, like, three out of the thousands upon thousands of warrants that they had asked for.
So, that's a good point.
I would respect that.
I don't think that the FISA court is a reasonable facsimile of justice.
dan friesen
Hey, when you're saying that...
You need to be very careful, because just the idea that they turned down three out of a thousand or whatever doesn't mean that the other 997, let's say, just for instance, weren't cases where it was legitimate.
The idea of it being a rubber-stamp court is a perception that you can have, but you have no idea what those other cases were, and neither does Alex.
jordan holmes
That's a fair point.
dan friesen
All of those cases that did get stamped?
The warrants got issued could have been things where they were very merited, and the evidence was there.
jordan holmes
Right, but then you look into some of the cases that were rubber-stamped, which you can do now that Snowden released that document, and you find that that's not the case.
dan friesen
Like what?
jordan holmes
A lot of those FISA warrants came after the FBI...
They were just trying to make...
Like, that's what they were trying to do.
They were trying to show that the terrorism enforcement was working.
But since they weren't actually catching terrorists, they created terrorists to catch.
dan friesen
I'm going to say that, first of all, I disagree with that as a thing that the FBI does.
I disagree with that wholeheartedly.
But if I were someone who was trying to figure out how to penetrate...
I don't know what other strategy I would use.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not saying it's right, and I'm against it, but at the same time, I understand the thinking that leads to it.
jordan holmes
Right.
You know what I mean?
I get what you're saying.
I get what you're trying to say there, and I think you were misunderstanding what it was they are doing, as opposed to the idea that you have of, hey, what you do is you find somebody low-level.
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Even someone who isn't inclined to be a terrorist, you turn them into a terrorist, and then they end up communicating with someone who is more legitimate.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
Now, that is a bad tactic.
It's a very unreliable one, and you're not going to get good information out of that.
But that's far less evil than what they were doing, which was closing the loop.
The higher up that this guy was going to talk to was also an FBI agent.
They were just entrapping them, legitimately committing crimes to make it look like they were catching people committing crimes.
And that's what a lot of, not a lot of, but that's what some of the FISA warrants were about.
So many of those FISA warrants have been just, oh, you guys want to spy on somebody?
Sweet, we can do that for you.
Like, it's a very problematic...
Troublematic?
dan friesen
Troublematic.
jordan holmes
Troublematic program there.
So I agree with that.
dan friesen
I think it's a little murkier than that.
I think that there are probably...
Like, I'm not sitting here saying, like, let's trust authority implicitly or anything like that.
But I think the picture is a little more complicated than your position and Alex's position.
jordan holmes
By no means am I trying to say that it is uncomplicated.
My point, though, is I would rather we were on a healthy...
Healthy suspicion of secretive tribunal courts that can justify warrantless spying.
dan friesen
I agree.
And I think your version is much more healthy as skepticism than Alex's.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Well, and I also kind of agree with him as far as Democrats having a fetish for the FBI and the CIA now.
Like, we should not be on their team.
They're bad people.
They are!
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Historically.
jordan holmes
I'm not trying to say that we're...
I'm not trying to be like we should undermine faith in our public system.
I'm saying that our public system did the work for us.
The groundwork has already been laid.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And it's not going to...
And it's not going to be a victory.
dan friesen
This is the episode where Jordan and Alex come together.
unidentified
Jesus.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying that there's a point there.
dan friesen
No, there is.
There is.
There is, absolutely.
But the answer...
jordan holmes
I'm just mad.
The FBI murdered Fred Hampton, okay?
I'm not going to trust Mueller.
Because he probably helped murder Fred Hampton.
dan friesen
I don't know if he can prove that.
jordan holmes
I bet he was there.
dan friesen
But look, I agree with you, there are tremendous abuses that have been carried out by the intelligence community in the past, but I believe that the answer to that is some sort of oversight, some sort of reform within the process, as opposed to outright distrust and outright demonization of the people who...
Look, just because you have the examples, and I'm not saying it's just one, there are many, but like Fred Hampton...
Right.
So, like, I don't know.
I think reform, I think civilian oversight, to some extent, is merited.
jordan holmes
Which the FISA court is not.
dan friesen
Well, but there could be a way some of that could be implemented, but I don't know how you do it.
jordan holmes
I agree.
That's all a good solution-based viewpoint.
dan friesen
I think that's the answer.
jordan holmes
I agree.
That is where you and I agree.
I'm guessing Alex's point of view on how to solve those abuses is not the same.
dan friesen
No, he wants...
jordan holmes
Give all the power to Trump?
dan friesen
Oh, I'm getting from the chat room that Robert Mueller was in Vietnam when Fred Hampton got murdered.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sounds like he did it then.
dan friesen
False flag!
jordan holmes
That was the whole point of Vietnam!
dan friesen
He has an alibi, it looks like.
But also, speaking of false flags, Alex and Jerome Corsi have been going buck wild on that train, that Amtrak collision, being a false flag.
unidentified
You know what?
jordan holmes
How is it that you can...
That's an interesting thing to me.
dan friesen
Why?
jordan holmes
Vietnam lasted how many years longer?
Just because Nixon wanted to win re-election.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Like, you can't be the FBI director and not know that.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So he lost many years of his life to Vietnam and yet is still a Republican on down the road?
That's odd to me.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't want to unpack it.
jordan holmes
I want to get to the bottom of Mueller.
dan friesen
I don't want to.
jordan holmes
Now I'm interested.
dan friesen
Let's get to this next clip.
jordan holmes
I wonder if he's got any juicy text messages.
dan friesen
Probably.
This clip is just labeled drunk rambling nonsense.
unidentified
To smear the FBI.
Well, where is the Republican leadership?
Oh, they're gone.
Paul Ryan!
alex jones
Look at this soft idiot with an IQ about 70. You think he'll take care of the country in the future?
Or this stuff, this is the best the enemy can get.
unidentified
These sacks of just absolutely traitorous garbage.
alex jones
They're losing it, I know it.
unidentified
This investigation in the hands of Devin Nunes, an out-of-the-closet Trump stooge.
I want to know what the people of this country are going to do if Rob Rosenstein is fired.
We can't take this sitting down.
alex jones
We can't take this sitting down.
Rosenstein worked for Hillary, set this whole scam up and paid for the fake dossier, and we're trying to overthrow the president here.
unidentified
And they're trying to say, no, I mean, he just put a memo out.
alex jones
He didn't fire him, but we can't stand for this because we got President Rosenstein.
unidentified
Rosenstein, he'll take care of it for us.
alex jones
Yeah, here we go.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
President Rosenstein, yeah.
jordan holmes
What was he trying to say?
dan friesen
He was trying to say, yeah.
I don't know.
unidentified
What was it?
dan friesen
President Rosenstein, he believes, it goes back to that stupid Praetorian guard kind of thing he was saying about Mueller a couple months back, where he's like, he's the shadow president.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
All this shit.
jordan holmes
Worship him, yeah, I'm sure.
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
I think that as more and more information comes out, the memo itself looks kind of embarrassing because the investigation doesn't seem to be predicated on the Steele dossier at all.
It seems like there were other things that triggered it.
jordan holmes
Even from...
dan friesen
Things that Carter Page had said in public.
jordan holmes
Yeah, from my reading of it?
dan friesen
George Papadopoulos.
Those sorts of things seem like they might have had more to do with the beginnings of it.
The Steele dossier got involved.
I'm not entirely sure, though.
I think a lot of this will play out in coming months.
jordan holmes
The thing about it is that, from my reading, it seems as though even with what's been called them redacting or cutting out a lot of it, omitting a lot of information that would have provided more context, it still seems like it justifies them spying on Trump's campaign pretty solidly.
dan friesen
What do you mean?
unidentified
The memo?
jordan holmes
I mean, the memo, yeah.
It goes through a lot of different things, and you're like, This would only be unreasonable if you already suspected a conspiracy to take down Trump.
Like, this is only post-fact conspiracy-related.
If you had read this before Trump had become president, no matter what side you're on, you're like...
Oh yeah, you should probably investigate that guy.
That's probably a good idea.
But if you're already convinced that Trump is under a conspiracy, then yeah, this is fine.
dan friesen
Once the sort of track has been laid by the Alexes of the world and what have you, it takes on a different shape.
So here's another ramble.
I don't know what this is about.
I have no idea.
He's drunk.
unidentified
He's winning, kids.
This crazy, wacky guy is winning.
alex jones
And America's winning two at year end.
You're shitting your fucking britches.
unidentified
He has already, not shipped, has cut away at the things that protect us.
alex jones
He's already cut away at the stranglehold.
We had America underwater.
The eyes were rolling back.
Bubbles were coming out.
We had America bed.
And then here comes Trump and pulled this off.
Now America's back on the beach, cocked the water up.
Just kicked us in the face!
jordan holmes
Google, censor them all!
alex jones
YouTube, Facebook, Twitter!
Shut these Americans down!
Tell them!
You don't promote family.
You don't promote churches like MSNBC said yesterday.
Fucking take it away from...
Jesus, shut up, Americans!
You don't give shit!
We fucking run your shit now!
God Almighty, Rosenstein!
Save me, Rosenstein!
Baby, baby, baby!
dan friesen
This is embarrassing.
jordan holmes
That...
Hold on.
Disagree.
That was beautiful.
dan friesen
It might be the best instance of character work, because there was a journey that this fake voice went on.
jordan holmes
That was tremendous.
dan friesen
It was...
I mean, there is pathos, certainly.
jordan holmes
Tremendous.
I have not seen better acting out of Alex.
I mean, frankly...
I've seen a lot of professional plays.
Not as good at acting as that.
That was spectacular.
dan friesen
We'll get to that anti-family stuff here towards the end of our episode.
But suffice it to say, it's nothing.
jordan holmes
Next live show, we're just going to open with a transcript of this clip.
dan friesen
A stage reading?
jordan holmes
Just the entire thing.
We're going to hire a professional.
I mean, Daniel Day-Lewis retired from movies.
We could probably get him.
He's not doing anything.
dan friesen
He's gettable.
jordan holmes
Oh, he'd be great, Alex.
dan friesen
If we do do a show in Austin...
unidentified
He's gettable.
dan friesen
If we do a show in Austin, we should try and get Rainbow Snatch to come.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That would be great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, the title is Just Alex is Too Drunk to Pay Attention.
I wonder what that means.
unidentified
Half of this country thinks the media totally lies.
At this point, 44% of this country doesn't trust the FBI.
And guess what?
A year from now, this isn't changing.
jordan holmes
Me?
alex jones
Guess what?
We don't trust the Clinton office that took over and all the scams.
unidentified
Yeah, we don't trust Hillary Clinton.
I mean, my God, what are we going to do here, Bugs Bunny?
People's in trouble we keep talking like this.
dan friesen
I'm not being dramatic.
This is what's happening.
alex jones
I'm not being dramatic.
unidentified
Another place where he and I agree.
I mean, and this guy's winning.
This wacky, crazy guy.
And all the tax cuts and the bonuses.
alex jones
Oh, no.
unidentified
The fact.
Oh, God.
alex jones
This is terrible.
unidentified
This poofy-haired guy.
alex jones
The poofy-haired guy.
unidentified
This is literally like waiting for Godot.
alex jones
Number one hotel.
unidentified
Loser.
Shit, that's losing when you run for president once and win.
alex jones
I mean, you know, you're going to miss NBC.
Well, shit, I don't.
No, he didn't get away.
jordan holmes
I would rather watch this than Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead.
dan friesen
I would rather watch this than just about anything, quite frankly.
jordan holmes
Because he's playing a nice two-man game.
He's first and second banana-ing it.
It's fantastic.
dan friesen
I hate to say people should go watch something Alex has done, but the visual of this does add a bit to it.
The video of him being like...
He's doing weird faces at the camera and stuff.
He's fucking tanked.
What is this?
Great.
He's playing the game that he plays a lot that I think is one of his greatest skills, and that is the hinge word game.
The, like, the guy says orange.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This wacky guy.
alex jones
He's wacky.
dan friesen
Right.
He just finds the word to hinge, much like I do with transitions.
But Alex does it to...
Fill content.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or fuel rants, and it just doesn't work.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Speaking of fueling rants, Dan.
dan friesen
See?
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
There it is.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex rants a little bit about how he's the victim of censorship.
jordan holmes
Who fueled it?
dan friesen
Antifa.
unidentified
Of course.
And we cannot depend on the Congress anymore.
And if Rosenstein is fired, there needs to be people in the streets.
That's right.
You can't.
alex jones
The Congress is not democracy.
The anti-fight in the streets.
There's the...
I'm scared of the blackbird.
unidentified
Yeah, no, I think that...
alex jones
They call us kids again.
Oh, look at that shielding thing.
Real nice for you.
Like Bernie Sanders'wife taking over that college.
Oh, she knows better.
unidentified
What voice is that?
alex jones
I think you will see people in the streets.
They keep saying, Alex Jones lies.
We do full-page ads.
Say it over to the president and point guns at his reporters.
And I still probably say, hey, they're allowed to not let you have free speech.
They're doing sorrows at people.
unidentified
And now we're like, we're going to let you, we're going to overthrow stuff.
We're going to fight that dictatorship real hard.
alex jones
You're going to get to it.
unidentified
This is embarrassing.
dan friesen
I want to do commentary and I want to talk about what he's talking about, but this is just so...
I didn't realize how playing this would make me super uncomfortable.
jordan holmes
It is fantastic.
dan friesen
It's fantastic.
I love it.
It's fantastic, but at the same time, I'm like, I don't want to kick him when he's down.
This is sad.
I have to imagine he woke up Saturday morning today when we're recording this.
I imagine he woke up hungover and was like, fuck, what did I do?
Oh, 60,000 views.
Shit.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
No way.
dan friesen
Let's pretend that didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Here is why this is great.
Have you ever read the comic book Legion?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Or seen the TV show Legion?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm not a dork.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Go ahead.
jordan holmes
The point being, the reason that it pops to my mind is because, if I understand the mythology correctly, the Legion...
That's...
dan friesen
It's a demon, right?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
That's Professor Xavier's son.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
The X-Man.
Charles Xavier's son, right?
He's the most powerful butt.
dan friesen
I thought he was paralyzed from the waist down.
How about that dick?
jordan holmes
Xavier fucks minds.
unidentified
Whoa.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That's where Jesus came from.
Anyways, what?
dan friesen
Hold on.
jordan holmes
No, so all of his powers, though, or whatever, come from multiple personalities in his brain.
So anytime he wants to do a thing, he has to use the guy who's...
I get why it's boring.
But my point is, if you got this guy drunk enough to where all of a sudden all of those personalities are just randomly popping in and out whenever they want to.
Like, that's what...
Alex is gone.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
There is no Alex.
dan friesen
No, there still is.
jordan holmes
We're not looking for Alex now.
We're looking for whatever part of Alex's brain is showing up.
dan friesen
There still is.
It's beautiful.
The anger is still him.
That's still there.
jordan holmes
Is it?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that's the core.
jordan holmes
Or?
dan friesen
Legion.
jordan holmes
Has he been taken over by Legion?
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
I think he might have.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, he deflects from ideas of Trump being involved with Russia.
jordan holmes
It's a very Legion thing to do.
unidentified
Because we haven't heard his real voice in a while now.
They just won't throw him under the bus for Pelosi and Waters and Hillary and all these great people.
alex jones
Jesus Christ.
Nobody elected Trump.
America didn't elect him.
Look at all the job losses in the stock market down.
He's a Russian agent.
That's why he's massing troops on Russia's border and huge sections and moving heavy weapons.
dan friesen
Oh, really?
alex jones
God almighty.
He nukes them.
It's like to eat their beds at night.
unidentified
He made nuke Russia because they want to be warm at night and glowing lava.
alex jones
You know, it's like if he blew them up with nukes, it's because he wants to give them free energy.
unidentified
Duh!
He'll transfer our uranium to ICBM.
alex jones
Duh!
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Has he ever even seen this clip before?
dan friesen
Has he watched it?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
He might be watching it for the first time.
dan friesen
He might?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, the clip that he's reviewing?
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
Yeah.
I'm sure Paul Joseph Watson wrote the article or something.
jordan holmes
He is making some shit up off his dome.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
This is fantastic.
dan friesen
And I don't know.
I mean, I don't know if we're amassing ICBMs with depleted uranium on them to the borders of Russia.
But if we are, that's a scoop.
jordan holmes
No, that's a good idea.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
I just think he's, at this point, winging it, doing some comedy.
He's trying to get in there with this exaggeration.
jordan holmes
Loving it.
unidentified
If he nukes Russia, it's just going to warm the beds.
dan friesen
Hey, how's it going?
jordan holmes
This is the most enjoyable Bob Hope bed I've ever seen in my entire life.
dan friesen
So at that point, at the end of that clip, he's like, let's get back to this guy.
But what he doesn't realize is that the clip ends like two seconds later.
jordan holmes
Because he's never seen the clip before.
dan friesen
Here is that, and then Alex desperately trying to figure out something else to cover while still in character.
unidentified
Well, that was very fake news.
alex jones
By the way, they can say...
jordan holmes
There's Alex.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, and what he's talking about is...
jordan holmes
Alex is back, guys!
dan friesen
Phil Mudd, after Trump called a bunch of countries shithole countries, he went on, I believe it was probably MSNBC, I'm not sure exactly, it might have been CNN, but he went on and said, like, I'm a proud member of a shithole country and everyone else is.
jordan holmes
Remember when that was a thing?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Remember when people, for a brief second, were like, is Trump racist?
dan friesen
That was six years ago.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Duh.
unidentified
All the rest of the stuff that watch.
alex jones
So they're like, you can't cuss, you can't whatever.
They're saying kill the president, kill everybody, get the streets.
But, oh, I'm sure the SJW is at Twitter, Google, and, you know.
dan friesen
I think he's trying to get defensive.
jordan holmes
Is he getting back into the voice now?
dan friesen
Yeah, but he's never left it.
He just slipped out for a second.
But I think he's getting defensive about the idea that he told everyone to fuck themselves and fucking shit and call the guy a cocksucker again.
I think he's getting defensive about that.
Like, oh, Phil Mudd can go on TV and say shit whole country when quoting the president.
And then he's like, everyone's going to come down on me for cussing.
alex jones
The YouTube platforms and Facebook.
Because here they are.
They're all over the news today saying, it's true, we're going to shut you down, but it's not censorship.
You're a Russian agent, Jones.
unidentified
That's right.
alex jones
So remember, just like MSNBC said a couple days ago, don't talk about your family.
Don't talk about your country.
Don't talk about jobs.
Actually said, no family, no church.
You don't.
She laughed.
She said, you don't get that no more.
You live alone.
You do what we say.
We're not a cult or anything.
We're good people.
dan friesen
He said, let's go back here because he's trying to throw back to the clip.
But the clip is over.
So he has to try and find something else to talk about.
And here's what he does.
jordan holmes
Of course it's over.
It's like Robert De Niro doing...
Rich Little doing an impression of Robert De Niro.
It's very bad.
dan friesen
It's very bad.
alex jones
Infoboys.com.
This racist website.
These people.
Look at this.
Oh, developing new Hillary emails released.
Contains directions on deleting emails.
Oh, in this great America, yeah.
Deep state death spiral.
Oh, yeah, right.
unidentified
Now we're just playing free association games.
dan friesen
He's reading just Infowars headlines and trying to find one that is attractive to him to cover.
jordan holmes
When he had to go to court-mandated therapy, I want those notes.
I want those notes so bad.
dan friesen
Can we FOIA those?
jordan holmes
Oh, I want those notes so bad.
alex jones
It's like, you know what?
Let me find a big article.
We linked on Drudge Report yesterday.
Michael Moore, America must be cleansed of its white...
People want so, right?
I agree.
That's not racist at all.
dan friesen
I don't even care.
At this point, I don't even care about Infowars reportage.
It's so bad that I don't even want to look into what the truth of that article is.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
I would love to just be like, you're wrong.
But also, I don't care.
First of all, I don't care about Michael Moore.
I don't care about whatever spin Infowars is putting on it.
All I care about is how Alex Jones needs fucking help.
jordan holmes
To reference the most important open mic eagle of our time, open mic eagle lyric of our time, it is, I looked up what Lena Dunham said and I shouldn't have is how I operate on most people now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I looked up what Michael Moore said and I shouldn't have.
dan friesen
Most Alex Jones headlines.
Sometimes there are good opportunities for education, but when he's talking shit about Michael Moore, I don't care.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
Especially when it dovetails into white victimhood.
jordan holmes
Don't care.
dan friesen
But, here we go.
Let's get to this.
This is the last clip.
And it's long, so we might have to pause in the middle.
jordan holmes
If Michael Moore is advocating white genocide, though.
Hard yes.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So, I don't know.
I couldn't find a place to cut this clip.
I couldn't figure out a segment or anything like that.
So, we'll pause in the middle.
But, here we go.
He starts by talking about a tweet that Joanne Reid put out.
I don't care!
And then he misrepresents it quite a bit.
jordan holmes
This is a world where we talk about tweets!
dan friesen
This is really more about the impression.
It's really more about the impression.
jordan holmes
Alright, fine.
alex jones
Here it is, Joy Reid.
Triggered by Trump using the word family.
unidentified
Oh my god, these people.
alex jones
We're fighting tyranny and dictatorship.
You don't get a fucking family and you don't get a fucking church in America.
They ain't allowed out of the first amendment.
Run this country now, okay?
You get hit the streets, stop this kind of stuff.
His commitment is abnormal.
Hell yeah!
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
alex jones
Get rid of the family.
Hell yeah.
be proud of my family what I realized it was racism be alive I have children now I was my real family's MSNBC Bernie Sanders but the white people Not a different accent.
dan friesen
Launches back.
Launches back to the Bernie.
The tweet that Joanne Reid put out was, I believe that she's, I mean, her point was correct.
All the tropes that Trump was using in the State of the Union speech were very much hearkening back to a pre-civil rights era.
And a lot of his behavior does consistently.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's a giant fucking white supremacist.
Why are we still talking about this?
dan friesen
Right, right.
So that part to me is like, yeah, okay.
But what's fun is that...
Like, Paul Joseph Watson wrote this article, and Alex Jones is covering it on this drunk ramble fest, and they're pretending that, ah, Joanne Reed can't handle the word family.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And that's not really what it was.
jordan holmes
Well, I remember reading something about how...
Liberals were triggered that Trump said the word America like 85 times.
And it's like, no, we're not triggered.
The point is, this is a dumb thing to do.
dan friesen
It's the definition of the forest for the trees.
That kind of stuff.
It's like, oh, you're pretending that the complaint is that someone said family.
And that's not what the complaint is.
The complaint isn't saying...
Oh, hey, all of these tropes that he's hearkening to are from an era that is no longer here.
There's nothing here anymore.
That's not to say families don't exist anymore.
And that's the leap that Alex Jones is making.
jordan holmes
The thing that I constantly think about with all of the constant barrage of, here's the new Trump thing.
Like, oh, Trump called all these country shitholes.
Is that racist?
Obviously it's racist, but we're going to spend three fucking days on it.
Like, the whole Russia investigation, like, that's not going to wind up with Trump being indicted or put in jail or even most likely impeached unless we genuinely retake both houses of Congress, which hopefully we'll be able to do.
But the whole problem I have with all of this is that we already have enough.
He should already be gone.
dan friesen
No, of course.
jordan holmes
It should already be done.
All of this new news just really fucks me over because it's like it supersedes the old news that he should already be impeached.
Like, we shouldn't be fucking talking about any of this.
We should be all the way back on the emoluments clause, which is fucking...
He's profiting off the presidency!
dan friesen
That's against the law!
You're missing the greater point.
And that is what this administration has been able to do is a large-scale presidential version of what Alex does with his narratives.
You know, there's all this terrible stuff, and then...
never gets proven and we move on to the next thing.
Right.
unidentified
There's never a consequence.
dan friesen
We just get into the next storyline.
We get into the next thing.
And so that's almost spiritually why they're a perfect match, Alex and Trump.
But look, our buddy Brian in the chat room, he's got to go play hockey.
So...
We gotta wrap this up.
jordan holmes
Alright, well, Brian, I'm sorry.
dan friesen
We gotta get to the rest of this clip.
I'm sorry, Brian.
unidentified
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
alex jones
Yeah, I realize it's not a cult to say you can't have a family.
Just let us run stuff.
We have a real need to dominate and run your life.
We did it for some of you, Union.
unidentified
He's got to take a shit.
He's got to take a shit.
alex jones
Soros did what he had to do, working with Hitler, affording to him, and that's kind of liberal.
So, listen to Alex Jones, baby.
Keep your head down, go along.
Just like everywhere else, communism takes over.
It's going to get a lot better.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Small point.
Bernie Sanders isn't a communist.
He's a socialist.
jordan holmes
That's actually a large point.
alex jones
Small point.
You see how bad things are getting under Trump?
unidentified
Being able to take care of yourself is a bad thing.
dan friesen
So at this point...
jordan holmes
Look into your heart!
dan friesen
No, at this point right here where he's like, taking care of yourself is a bad thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I had to boost the audio because he's basically whispering.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's like a...
jordan holmes
And he's fucking killing it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is his reel.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is the sizzle reel.
This is going into his next audition tape.
Are you kidding me?
dan friesen
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
unidentified
We need to be like Venezuela.
We're North Korean.
You know the truth.
Bernie Sanders is a sexy man.
His wife took over those colleges.
Pumped and dumped them to get $10,000 and almost had a $1,000 cost.
alex jones
Because he's Bernie Sanders!
unidentified
Like Michael Moore, Dave does.
alex jones
Just like globalists took over Russia in 1917 to kill millions of Christians.
unidentified
You've heard us.
You're not going to have your church.
You're not going to have your family.
We're going to put you in ditches and blow your fucking heads off.
alex jones
Because it's what makes us feel good.
unidentified
We want to feel big, because we're bigger males that are mentally ill and in-bred.
We get together.
alex jones
Because you lay down and go to sleep, we're going to win, and then Trump comes along.
All we want to do is bankrupt you.
They kill you and your family.
And you're talking about family and God and prosperity.
We want to demoralize you.
unidentified
We got you so close, we want you.
Bezos.
Good man like that.
Why is I saying, so many people are killing me.
He's like, oh God.
I love Bezos.
I'm not Alex Jones.
I'm Bernie Sanders'son.
I don't know what Alex would be thinking sometimes, but I just love him.
I love communism.
I got it.
jordan holmes
I got it, buddy.
unidentified
Just let us take over.
Turn your gods in.
alex jones
White people, you're evil.
unidentified
My whole boy's right.
And that's it.
alex jones
I love you.
unidentified
Bye-bye.
alex jones
Nunes is a bad man.
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
dan friesen
That's literally how it ends.
That's how it ends.
A weird ghost sound.
jordan holmes
After that, he's like, alright, Buckley.
Press upload.
dan friesen
Let's get it on the end.
alex jones
Get it out!
jordan holmes
Get it out!
First draft, last draft, get it out the door.
dan friesen
Any content is gonna move some pills.
Let's fucking do this thing.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Alright.
Now that was a tour de force.
Can you imagine him on a stage?
dan friesen
Yep.
Like a Hal Holbrook type situation?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Single, soft spot.
dan friesen
Like, instead of Mark Twain, it's Alex as Bernie.
jordan holmes
No, this is why I've got a new plan for us.
InfoWars the musical.
Alright?
That's right.
You are holding your spit take in on purpose.
dan friesen
I was trying to look contemplative.
Say what?
jordan holmes
Look, we get Lin-Manuel Miranda on.
dan friesen
Oh, he's in.
He's gettable.
jordan holmes
He's obviously in on this.
dan friesen
Daniel J. Lewis, Lin-Manuel, gettable.
jordan holmes
We get him in there.
Alright?
We write the best music there's ever been, and we close it with Alex Jones' speech right here.
He's on his knees.
Soft spotlight just on him.
Everybody is fucking crying.
dan friesen
Bezos.
jordan holmes
Because nobody knows what's going on, and it's beautiful.
dan friesen
Bernie Sanders is a sexy man.
jordan holmes
No, you felt the emotion in his voice.
He was dying.
He was a man.
That was his death cry.
That's his last words.
dan friesen
Right.
But also, the problem that I have with it is...
jordan holmes
The musical?
dan friesen
No, I move past that.
That's unrealistic.
Neither of us can write music or lyrics.
The issue for me is...
I want to come back to the comedy of it and the character.
It's too inconsistent.
Because at the end, he's doing this Bernie Sanders is great, and then at the end he says Devin Nunez is a good man.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which is...
It doesn't seem like that's what the character would say.
He's a bad man.
jordan holmes
I have no idea.
dan friesen
I don't remember either.
I thought he said that he's a good man.
Let me pull this back.
unidentified
Turn your guns in.
alex jones
White people, you're evil.
unidentified
And that's it.
I love you.
Bye-bye.
alex jones
Nunes is Batman.
unidentified
Bye-bye.
dan friesen
Never mind.
Never mind.
He did say he's a Batman.
jordan holmes
Can you play that one more time?
dan friesen
No, it would take too long to scroll back.
Exactly right.
So I guess his character work is more consistent than I was imagining.
No, he did some good character work.
Fucking shit, man.
The end result of this is not really any real need to discuss politics as much as it is Alex, you need to get help.
And we just drank a bottle of wine while recording this.
You have a problem.
And here's what it comes down to.
The recklessness with which he's demonizing people, calling media personalities the enemy.
The fucking shit, you fucking cocksucker, fucking nonsense, fuck shit.
That sort of stuff.
There's consequences to it.
And even if we were doing that, I would feel bad about it.
And we do not have nearly the amount of listeners that Alex does.
He influences people, and the fact that he sees fit to just get really drunk and ramble about nothing in ways that are specifically dangerous to other civilians, I don't think...
I think...
Alcoholism is not defined by the amount you drink or the regularity that you drink.
It's the consequences of your drinking.
And if you look at it through that prism, the times that we've heard Alex drunk on the show, there have been many.
jordan holmes
They have been legion, if you will.
dan friesen
Certainly.
I think there are very serious consequences that he doesn't have to feel.
He doesn't feel the consequences of them.
Other people have to feel it.
I think if he had any empathy as a human being, he would recognize the damage that he's doing to people because of his drinking.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I would encourage him to analyze that and go get help, because this is pathetic.
jordan holmes
It's not great.
dan friesen
I would like to point a very strong finger at the people who work at Infowars who allowed this to go on the internet.
This is embarrassing.
And I say that as Alex Jones' sworn enemy.
This is disgusting and embarrassing.
This is a disgrace.
If Alex agreed to let them put this up, he's a fucking idiot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He must have.
jordan holmes
He must have told them.
dan friesen
He must have.
But he probably did it when he was drunk.
He probably was wasted and said, put it up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, but it's like...
dan friesen
And there's no one there to say, Alex, come on, man.
jordan holmes
It's like having a boy king, though.
Like, that's the issue with Infowars, is it's like, well, you're always living at the behest of the whims of a child.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, so like...
In a real job, you would be fired for putting out garbage like this.
At an InfoWars job, you'd be fired if you said, this is embarrassing.
You'd be murdered.
dan friesen
Alex, reconsider this.
I know you spent 20 minutes rambling and doing a shit impression, but you can just cut bait.
You don't have to put it out.
jordan holmes
No, we did it.
We gotta do it.
dan friesen
Anyway.
This is sad.
But it is what it is.
Anyway, Alex Jones, I hope...
unidentified
How many minutes in a row did he stay in that impression for the most part?
dan friesen
Most of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was pretty commendable.
I'll give him that.
Most people could not stay in a bad character for that long.
dan friesen
To be fair, he didn't.
He slid through three or four characters.
jordan holmes
At least he was trying.
dan friesen
Yeah, we've got to give him credit for that.
jordan holmes
He's way better than many people in any acting class that I've ever not taken.
dan friesen
That's fair enough.
So anyway, if you guys want more of the show, we're at knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can follow us on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
We're all on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We can be found on the iTunes.
The iTunes.
dan friesen
That's correct.
jordan holmes
As it's said by Alex Jones, doing shittier vocal work.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
And yeah, you leave a review.
Do the stuff.
Hmm.
I don't know, Dan.
Where do we go from here?
dan friesen
Well, usually we, you know, call someone, tell them to fuck themselves generally at the end of the show.
jordan holmes
You got anybody?
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
I guess I would say, I mean, I don't think this is a fair one to do, but I would say Alex's mafia guy.
Whoever that guy is.
jordan holmes
I was going to say Alex's Jocelyn Elders, but...
dan friesen
That wasn't on this episode.
jordan holmes
Wasn't it?
dan friesen
It was kind of.
Alex's mafia guy can go fuck himself.
He seems like an aggressive pile of shit.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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