Today, Dan explains to Jordan why the present is no longer worth exploring as it relates to Alex Jones. Thus, the gents dive deep back into the past to see what Alex was doing about a decade ago. Spoiler alert: he was lying and enjoying really good country jams.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I forgot to turn on our mics. | ||
| Fuck you, Jordan. | ||
| For the live listeners, that will be edited out of the podcast. | ||
| Now it won't. | ||
| Let's let it breathe. | ||
| Hey, guys, this is Welcome Back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| For the chat room, we are drinking Prophecy Wine. | ||
| We are drinking My Birthright, is what we are doing, absolutely. | ||
| Well, I believe Prophecy Wine is actually one of the first wines we drank on the show. | ||
| It is. | ||
| I believe the first one was the Expedition, maybe. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| Then I think we... | ||
| Because it was thematically appropriate. | ||
| For the Secret of 2017. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And then, of course, the Bogle in honor of Bogle Jubb. | ||
| Bogle Jubb the Great. | ||
| This is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jubb. | ||
| I don't know anything about Alex Jubb. | ||
| I also know a lot about the wines we drank in the past, and apparently so do you. | ||
| Guys, welcome aboard. | ||
| How are you doing, Jordan? | ||
| I'm doing all right. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| I'm doing all right. | ||
| This wine is very nice. | ||
| I feel like I'm going to steal some more of your... | ||
| Mystery Oreos eventually. | ||
| But the Mystery Oreos, guys, they're okay. | ||
| I feel obligated to do a review, but the review is just, they're okay. | ||
| It's a Japanese Pepsi flavor where you're like, oh, this is great for two sips, and then you're like, I never want to... | ||
| The Japanese green tea Kit Kat was a disaster. | ||
| I don't understand all the words you just put together. | ||
| I got very excited about it, and then I was like, oh, this is terrible. | ||
| But something that I'm still excited about... | ||
| God damn it, Dan! | ||
| That transition is amazing! | ||
| ...is our new donors like to give a shout-out to Phil. | ||
| Thanks for joining up with the show. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| We appreciate it so much. | ||
| Phil, thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you very much, Phil Mickelson. | ||
| Also, I'd like to give a shout-out to... | ||
| Multiple major award winners. | ||
| I'd also like to give a shout-out to a new globalist. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Big shout-out going out to you, David R. We appreciate it. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
|
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| We appreciate it so much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| If you'd like to become a policy wonk yourself, you can go to our website, knowledgefight.com, click the support the show button, and you'll get an audio drop played for you. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I feel like that's worth it. | ||
| And you'll get buttons. | ||
| We've got some buttons going out to people who have requested them. | ||
| Already mailed out like seven or eight buttons. | ||
| And again, if you'd like a button, send me your email address. | ||
| We'll send it to you. | ||
| Yeah, send me your email address. | ||
| My girlfriend's mad that they still exist, so let's just send them on out. | ||
| Also, because we have some donations and Policy Wonks stacked up, we have not made progress since the last time we announced the progress towards the end of the month goal. | ||
| What did you just say? | ||
| I was announcing the goal in terms of us reaching the end of the month. | ||
| Trying to raise $100 extra per month in terms of getting the Alex Jones documentary made. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But then you said a bunch of words in a row that didn't make sense. | ||
| Those people who I just gave a shout-out to were already factored into the last 75% of the way declaration that I made last time. | ||
| So we can't announce them every single episode. | ||
| Or no, we can't announce all of them. | ||
| No, I just should have done math is what I'm doing. | ||
| You're not good at that. | ||
| No. | ||
| But what I am good at doing... | ||
| You are great at doing... | ||
| Is listening to Alex Jones. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| But unfortunately, Jordan, I've come to a point that I am... | ||
| I told you a little bit about this before the show. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I just don't think there's value in talking much about Alex Jones in the present day anymore. | ||
| I think that he is entirely a distraction. | ||
| I think that's all he's doing. | ||
| He's running interference for something and desperately trying to distract people from and discredit the investigation that Robert Mueller is doing. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| He's joined literally every other Republican. | ||
| And I'm not entirely sure why he's doing that. | ||
| I mean, obviously it's team sports and his guy is the one who's being investigated. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There's some of that. | ||
| But I don't feel like that's a satisfying answer as to why, but I can't speculate as to why. | ||
| I mean, we've uncovered him admitting that he's spoken to Russian intelligence agents. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| But that doesn't necessarily mean that he's under Russian blackmail. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| Were that to be true, that would explain his desperation. | ||
| He has been peed on, though, before. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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I think that's very, very likely. | |
| Given the number of times he's done crack. | ||
| Yeah, 100% likely Alex Jones has been peed on in the past. | ||
| Yeah, so I wrote an article about this on the website. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I just want to play some clips, because not everybody reads the articles, and so they might not understand some of the frustration that I've come to in terms of Alex Jones in the present. | ||
| On the 23rd of January, earlier this week, Alex Jones got on air and did one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| And that's considering that I've watched... | ||
| I have tons of Alex Jones. | ||
| He married Dennis Rodman. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| He married himself, a la Dennis Rodman. | ||
| What he ended up doing was... | ||
| So, to give you some context, Jordan, because you don't keep up with all these stupid idiots out there in the world. | ||
| Stupid idiots. | ||
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Great. | |
| Who am I? | ||
| You know the ones. | ||
| Who am I? | ||
| Chris Jericho? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| All right. | ||
| There is talk on all the conservative and conspiracy boards about a mysterious, notorious memo that has been written. | ||
| Oh, I recall the memo. | ||
| The one that they have threatened to release, and they will release it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it is absolutely fine for them to release it, and they will release it at any moment because the bombshells within it are so terrifying. | ||
| It's smoking gun stuff. | ||
| If you read that memo, your eyes would explode out of your head. | ||
| It's like at the... | ||
| The end of Raiders of the Lost Ark. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| All of the Nazis' eyes and brains would melt off. | ||
| Now, it seems very strange that this is such an important memo. | ||
| And they've known about it for so long and they still haven't released it. | ||
| Dan, do you think there's a reason that they would play up how important it is without ever actually releasing it? | ||
| Well, experts who've chimed in also have made note that it's not an actual intelligence product or anything like that. | ||
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No. | |
| So there's literally nothing standing in the way of them just releasing it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| The way I described it on the blog was that it's Schrodinger's memo. | ||
| It's damning and nothing at the same time until it's revealed. | ||
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Right. | |
| Which you can't do. | ||
| Just like the text message of the Secret Society. | ||
| We're going to get to that. | ||
| The moment they revealed that, everybody who was on the fence went, Fuck you. | ||
| We're going to get to that in a second. | ||
| But all this has to be taken in consideration of the stuff we were talking about before. | ||
| The trends that Alex is experiencing with his fake intelligence source, Zach, not being as cool as QAnon. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And then him falling for the Antifa Soros documents that his researcher found on 4chan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The embarrassing bullshit. | ||
| He lives in a weird world of having to get out in front of the story that is always already out in front of him. | ||
| He has been left behind by the conspiracy world. | ||
| And so there's this notorious GOP memo that went around. | ||
| And so Alex gets on air on the 23rd, and this is how he lays it out. | ||
| I've got sources in the press. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I've got sources across the board. | ||
| Heard about it. | ||
| And in the last few days, I have basically reverse engineered what is in the bombshell congressional memo. | ||
| And then I've checked with my sources, without them revealing anything secret, played the little game of, is this accurate? | ||
| Is that accurate? | ||
| Would this be what's in it? | ||
| I shall write this down and I shall put it in a sealed envelope inside of a lockbox in the bank. | ||
| And when the memo is revealed, so shall they grab that, pull it out, and you will know. | ||
| I reverse engineered it. | ||
| By the way, if any of that was true, the sources are still revealing secret information. | ||
| Just because you play a game where you're like, am I hot? | ||
| That doesn't get you around the legal... | ||
| Doesn't that get you around any classification? | ||
| No. | ||
| This is top secret. | ||
| Okay, no. | ||
| You can't say anything. | ||
| Well, you know how... | ||
| But is it... | ||
| Okay, let's just play 20 questions. | ||
| You don't have to say yes or no. | ||
| We're not going to play this. | ||
| Hey, you know how in the house when they... | ||
| Truth or dare. | ||
| When they have open testimony in the House or in the Senate Intelligence Committees and someone will be asked a question about something that is classified, you know how they don't say, oh my god, you're right on. | ||
| They say, I cannot confirm or deny. | ||
| I can't comment on that. | ||
| I never thought that you would ask me that question. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So Alex starts the show off by saying that he has all these sources and he's figured out what's in the document. | ||
| And he's going to, after the break, of course, tease it. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Top of the hour. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| He's going to tell you what's inside it. | ||
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Right. | |
| A little bit later in the show... | ||
| Bees! | ||
| Turns out it's bees! | ||
| That's why they haven't released it. | ||
| You open up that memo. | ||
| Bees! | ||
| Everywhere is bees. | ||
| It's not bees, but I give Alex a B. Shout out to our beekeeper, Matt Drafke. | ||
| A little bit later, Alex decides to go full hog on this thing. | ||
| Okay, folks. | ||
| I've got to go off air right now. | ||
| And we've got a very powerful video that's on DrudgeReport.com. | ||
| We're leftists, throw fists, spit on people. | ||
| It's a compilation of the Women's March. | ||
| I've got to go off air because William Benny, former technical head of the National Security Agency, the main technical advisor obviously on the big film Snowden, who's advised the president and the CIA director Pompeo, he's now advising the president. | ||
| He's going to be joining us next hour. | ||
| He just said, hey, here, why don't you just have the actual memo they're talking about? | ||
| Now, there's another memo they're writing about this memo, but here it is, just sent to us. | ||
| It's a counter-memo. | ||
| I've got to go off air. | ||
| This is the classified memo right here. | ||
| I mean, I told you I have sources and that I'd reverse-engineered it, but I guess the decision's been made by whoever's telling Benny to send this to us. | ||
| So there's a lot of problems here. | ||
| Spoiler alert, it's not the memo. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What he ends up having is this Foreign Intelligence Service Corps memorandum and opinion approving the 2016 Section 702 certifications. | ||
| It has been public online since at least May 11, 2017, when it was covered ad nauseum. | ||
| And it's the source. | ||
| Of all of Trey Gowdy and all of the people in Congress' nonsense about Section 702. | ||
| Because it does bring up some issues that have happened in the past. | ||
| We've even fucking discussed it on the show. | ||
| This is not something secret and classified. | ||
| And it is not... | ||
| The notorious memo that the GOP has been talking about and playing up. | ||
| Well, yeah, because it's existed for a long time. | ||
| This is a big problem, and it's an even bigger problem that Alex is saying that William Benny, the technical head of the NSA, one of his major sources and frequent guests, sent it to him saying it was the notorious memo. | ||
| Because that means William Benny is either a fucking idiot, which is entirely possible, or he's in on it actively creating propaganda with Alex. | ||
| Or, he is fucking with Alex. | ||
| Because, goddammit, if that wouldn't be hilarious. | ||
| That's possible, but if he is... | ||
| If you had the chance, if you had the power... | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| No, because... | ||
| Okay, alright, I can tell you're excited about this. | ||
| No, because he's on the hook for this. | ||
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Alex... | |
| How?! | ||
| Because Alex said he gave it to me and said it was the document. | ||
| So? | ||
| If you're playing games and you want to fuck with Alex, you give it to him and be like, but you can't say you got it for me. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because it's classified. | ||
| If you're William Benny, who gives a fuck? | ||
| What's going to happen to him? | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Okay, first off, there's no legal ramifications because it's already public. | ||
| It's all nonsense. | ||
| So you can hand it to him. | ||
| It's handing anything to Alex and being like, hey, this is classified. | ||
| And then watch the fallout happen. | ||
| It's not like he's taken seriously by other media sources that he's no longer going to be invited on. | ||
| Right, William Benny goes on InfoWars. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But just so we can be clear, Alex, a little bit later, does specify that this is the memo. | ||
| That everyone's talking about. | ||
| But I still want to keep going. | ||
| You want to clown on Benny some more? | ||
| No, I think this is brilliant. | ||
| If he is fucking with Alex, here's the situation, right? | ||
| No consequences for him. | ||
| Even if you think that Alex would be mad at him for lying to him, Alex can't say that. | ||
| Alex has to continue to believe whatever bullshit he believes. | ||
| He can't go behind the scenes and be like, Benny, you fucked me! | ||
| Well, he could yell at him behind the scenes, maybe. | ||
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Nah. | |
| He wouldn't do that, because then he couldn't get any more fake memos in the future. | ||
| So he makes it overly clear that this is the memo that everyone's talking about. | ||
| The memo. | ||
| So then he does this a little bit later in the show, which is pretty fun. | ||
| It's not the memo. | ||
| Roger, let me interrupt you. | ||
| I'm literally in Kit Daniels' office. | ||
| While we're trying to post it, they grab control of the computer and turn it off and fry it right in front of us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then start jumping in. | ||
| They are inside our computers right now, but they can't stop us. | ||
| They can't stop us from publishing it because guess what, idiots? | ||
| Trump already published it. | ||
| It already got published. | ||
| We haven't told you yet. | ||
| You're fools. | ||
| Six months. | ||
| So you're not going to stop anything, globalist. | ||
| Understand that, Hillary Clinton and all of you. | ||
| Boy, I tell you, I've never seen something like this. | ||
| Live time. | ||
| In Kit Daniels' computer. | ||
| Because I'm on there saying post it. | ||
| Can you believe that? | ||
| I think Kit Daniels probably is looking at porn at work. | ||
| No, I absolutely cannot believe that. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| It's something that's been public and discussed for seven months. | ||
| There's no way globalists hacked in and fried his computer because he's trying to post it. | ||
| Just from a technical standpoint. | ||
| That seems silly. | ||
| From a technical director standpoint, William Finney. | ||
| I think he means that that computer just melted down. | ||
| I'm not going to say. | ||
| I mean, literally. | ||
| From top to bottom. | ||
| No. | ||
| Melted as if it was poured into lava. | ||
| Kit Daniels was looking at porn. | ||
| That's what we're going on. | ||
| Kit Daniels was probably looking at porn. | ||
| So it all leads to this, and of course, this is the inevitable payoff. | ||
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They said that Watergate was a constitutional crisis. | |
| That was child's play compared to what we're looking at here. | ||
| Stop there. | ||
| The whole house of cards. | ||
| You're going to do five more minutes for me. | ||
| Coming back on a break here. | ||
| I just need to plug once. | ||
| It's very expensive around this operation. | ||
| We've got Soros back groups coming after us, as you know. | ||
| This one doesn't surprise us. | ||
| We have great products at InfoWorksLive.com. | ||
| I even forgot to bring my plug sheet in here, but we've got the combo with the X2 and the Secret... | ||
| So whatever. | ||
| He does a long plug. | ||
| So the issue is that he's trying... | ||
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Love. | |
| Love and Roger Stone right now. | ||
| I gotta give it to him. | ||
| It's not important. | ||
| That's beside the point right now. | ||
| I know. | ||
| The issue is that Alex Jones is creating this giant distraction hoax nonsense. | ||
| Whether he believes or not that he actually has the document, he knows that he has to get in on what's cool on the internet and the conspiracy communities, and he has to do one better. | ||
| And so he does. | ||
| It's embarrassing. | ||
| Wait, so is anybody else... | ||
| Pulled this bullshit? | ||
| What? | ||
| Has the internet pulled... | ||
| This specific bullshit? | ||
| The internet. | ||
| Like, I'm... | ||
| With this... | ||
| Has the internet done something? | ||
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No. | |
| With this document? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, like, when you're talking about 4chan or anything like that, has anybody pulled this shit out of their ass but Alex? | ||
| No. | ||
| Because everyone on the internet would be like, this isn't going to play. | ||
| Yeah, that's craving bullshit. | ||
| Alex got called out on it very quickly, but he doesn't give a shit. | ||
| He doesn't care. | ||
| It's a way to try and get more ears on his commercials. | ||
| So this narrative doesn't follow to the next day. | ||
| On the next day, on the 24th, I believe, he's talking about the Secret Service text. | ||
| Or the FBI text about a secret society. | ||
| So he just jumps to that, because that's what everyone's talking about. | ||
| That's what all the conspiracy world is up in arms with. | ||
| And I didn't listen to the show today, but I have to assume he's on to a new thing, because that fucking thing got blown up. | ||
| Those texts got released, and they're nothing. | ||
| He's just, it's not worth our time. | ||
| That's an interesting point, because that is kind of the quintessential decline of the U.S. media in the first place, is that... | ||
| Once we started having a media that chased after the internet, it was over. | ||
| Because the internet has the shortest attention span in history, once the media starts chasing the internet, they destroy their attention span as well. | ||
| So Alex is the same way. | ||
| If he actually had the memo, how big of a story is that? | ||
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That's forever a story. | |
| That's a feather in his cap forever, and he just moves on the next day. | ||
| He has to pretend that... | ||
| And so does everybody else, though. | ||
| He has to pretend that he does, though, because he has to pretend that he's the king of that world, and he's not. | ||
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No. | |
| He's not. | ||
| The internet is much better at this than him, and much more creative, and he's like... | ||
| It's a problem, and I don't really care. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| Have you studied rhizome theory? | ||
| Anyways, keep going. | ||
| I just... | ||
| There's not much we can do. | ||
| About the present stuff. | ||
| I really don't think so. | ||
| And I think that it... | ||
| Look, I'm not going to toot my own horn, but I think I can do a pretty decent job of investigating a lot of stuff. | ||
| One thing that I can't emotionally handle doing is chasing bullshit threads in the immediate that Alex throws out. | ||
| And so this is sort of a resignation on my part. | ||
| And that is, I don't care about the present anymore. | ||
| I'm not interested. | ||
| I may check back from time to time. | ||
| But whatever everyone's talking about, whatever the newest meme about Alex Jones is, I probably will have very minimal awareness of it. | ||
| I'm going back in time. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I'm only focusing on the past now. | ||
| Because I think that is where truth is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, there's an argument to be made that... | ||
| That's a way of coping with your disgust and hatred of the present. | ||
| It's not disgust, no. | ||
| Rather than combating it head on? | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| I can't handle watching his show in the present. | ||
| It makes me really sad. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| It's a bummer. | ||
| It's a desperate man raving about nothing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's not... | ||
| Like I told you before the show, I think it's beneath us, quite frankly. | ||
| If you started editing out the Alex Jones parts and just left in Roger Stone having a... | ||
| Great old time. | ||
| I think I'd be fine with it for a good 25 minutes. | ||
| He got fooled by the document, too. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Roger Stone doesn't care. | ||
| Roger Stone is living the best life right now. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe for a little while. | ||
| Even with that short little clip of him talking, it was like, yeah, they said that Nixon was crazy. | ||
| Well, Jordan, this is my way of telling you something. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I found... | ||
| Some really old episodes. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| How old? | ||
| We're talking 2008. | ||
| No shit! | ||
| So we're going 10 years back in the past. | ||
| It's about time. | ||
| Today we'll be going over March 18th, 2008. | ||
| I'll proceed forward from this point through 2008 and see what we can learn. | ||
| Do you know what excites me the most, Dan? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I'm officially Marty McCly. | ||
| I honestly expected a round of applause about that reveal. | ||
| We're going to be covering 2008. | ||
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Woo! | |
| This is very exciting. | ||
| I mean, we're going to be able to cover Obama's election. | ||
| There's all sorts of things from the past that we'll be able to get into. | ||
| So you found a whole trove of 2008. | ||
| Holy shit, did I? | ||
| We're just going to... | ||
| Absolutely dismantle 2008. | ||
| And then maybe the future, you know, even from there, 9, 10. Yeah? | ||
| Yeah, so we will... | ||
| Oh, I was hoping you would come upon a trove from 2028 as well. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| We'll be going back 10 years in the past and 10 years into the future. | ||
| Stay tuned. | ||
| Very bigoted about... | ||
| To the Knowledge Fight Time Machine. | ||
| Very bigoted about aliens. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's like that Mr. Show Gleep Glop sketch. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| So, Jordan, let's go. | ||
| Back in time. | ||
| Don't ever. | ||
| Don't ever. | ||
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Here. | |
| If you start doing that every single episode, I'm going to kill you. | ||
| On March 18th, Alex Jones begins his show with a three-minute audio piece, a pre-package of, guess what, James O 'Keefe's first project. | ||
| James O 'Keefe was just... | ||
| This was the Planned Parenthood one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex Jones has a big audio package at the beginning that includes a couple of James O 'Keefe's prank calls to Planned Parenthood, which we will listen to now. | ||
| All right. | ||
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What's your position? | |
| Administrative assistant. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| When I underwrite abortion, does that apply to minorities too? | ||
| If you specifically want it to underwrite an abortion for a minority person, you can target it that way. | ||
| You can specify that that's how you want it spent. | ||
| Okay, yeah, because there's definitely way too many black people in Ohio, so I'm just trying to do my part. | ||
| Okay, whatever. | ||
| Well, blacks especially need abortions, too. | ||
| So that's what I'm trying to do. | ||
| Well, for whatever reason, we'll accept the money. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So that's the first one. | ||
| Not great. | ||
| That was real? | ||
| She clearly said, whatever, to his racism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's the sort of thing where you get the sense by listening to them that whenever he proposes this idea of, like, I'd like to give money for abortions for black people, the way they interpret that is, you know, there are a lot of people who don't have access to health care in minority communities. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Great. | ||
| That's nice of you to want to help. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Just like any charity that helps anybody who can't afford help on their own, great! | ||
| There are also minorities who can't afford it. | ||
| Fantastic! | ||
| I would posit that these prank calls really reveal more about the people making them than the people receiving them. | ||
| Because the positions that they advocate... | ||
| Aren't really out of line with their real positions. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's weird to listen to him talk like a white supremacist and not be like, oh yeah, you're a white supremacist. | ||
| Like, he's pretending that he's playing a character, but he sounds very sincere. | ||
| Well, let's listen to the next one. | ||
|
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Good afternoon, this is Autumn. | |
| Hello, Autumn. | ||
| I'm interested in making a donation today. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| What about abortions for the underprivileged minority groups? | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| We have, in fact, wonderful, fantastic news. | ||
| We just received a very generous donation to our Women in Need Fund. | ||
| Wonderful. | ||
| I want to specify that abortion to help a minority group. | ||
| Would that be possible? | ||
| Like the black community, for example? | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So... | ||
| So the abortion could be, you know, I could give money specifically for a black baby. | ||
| That would be the purpose. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| If you wanted to designate that you wanted your gift to be used to help an African-American woman in need, then we would certainly make sure that that gift was earmarked specifically. | ||
| She sounds very nice. | ||
| The call's not done. | ||
| She's being very clear about what they... | ||
| Are accepting this as. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he is, you know, full of racism. | ||
| At this point, the call could have ended. | ||
| Because he has gotten out of her what he wants to get out of it. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| That he has said something vaguely racist, and they've been like, we'll accept your money. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| This is where we find out he should have taken a level one course at Second City. | ||
| Well, the call goes on another like 35 seconds, and this is all unnecessary, and probably just, it feels like he's venting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Great, because I really face trouble with affirmative action, and I don't want my kids being disadvantaged against black kids. | |
| I just had a baby. | ||
| I want to put it in his name. | ||
| So that's definitely possible. | ||
| Oh, always, always. | ||
| Can I put this in the name of my son? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| name my son great um you know he's trying to get into into colleges and he'll be applying maybe and he just we're just really big Wait, what are you doing? | ||
| Alright. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What is facing troubles with affirmative action? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's complete nonsense. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| It doesn't prove a... | ||
| Goddamn thing. | ||
| So the idea that he's facing... | ||
| This baby is trying to get into college. | ||
| Well, the baby is applying to college already. | ||
| And he's faced troubles, multiple, with affirmative action. | ||
| So that means that everywhere he goes, he gets affirmative action to out? | ||
| Yes, this baby. | ||
| That's a lot of affirmative action. | ||
| You know, people like Alex and Alex himself are not in favor of affirmative action. | ||
| So the idea that... | ||
| James O 'Keefe is using affirmative action as a racist ploy to prank Planned Parenthood. | ||
| It falls in line with their beliefs. | ||
| It's just that he's saying, oh, I'm really racist about this. | ||
| As opposed to being like, no, it just gives people an unfair leg up. | ||
| Whatever sanitized version of their complaints about affirmative action they really have, this is just the reality. | ||
| Him on the phone is like, oh, this is just letting out what my real complaints about affirmative action are. | ||
| Well, not just... | ||
| Not just that, but it's very much like, okay, you're going to make a racist donation? | ||
| That's still a donation to Planned Parenthood. | ||
| That's like all the donations in Mike Pence's name is just like, yeah, sweet, fine, whatever. | ||
| And the further point is these people that he's talking to on the phone, generally their business is making money for Planned Parenthood, or they're low-level functionaries who work there, and they're like, they're not going to tell him to fuck off on the phone, they'll get fired. | ||
| No, also they're just like... | ||
| They heard him say, I want to make a donation, and they're like, cool, cool, cool. | ||
| Move along. | ||
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Move along. | |
| Come on, come on. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Gotta get to the next donation. | ||
| Whatever it is you're saying is great. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Give me the card number. | ||
| You even heard in the first one that the lady was like, whatever. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
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Fine. | |
| Believe whatever you want about us killing minority babies. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| We're still going to take your money and use it to do good. | ||
| You're an idiot. | ||
| Your racism went so far, you're doing good for black communities. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which I guess... | ||
| I mean, that's fine. | ||
| You're accidentally doing good as a prank. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| But I don't think he actually gave them any money. | ||
| I bet he hung up when it got to that point. | ||
| Then he's a fucking piece of shit for that. | ||
| Screw all of that. | ||
| Like, if you're going to do that, fucking go all the way. | ||
| I would say so. | ||
| And you have to, otherwise you don't have receipts. | ||
| To quote the great insane clown posse, let's go all the way. | ||
| Anyway, in this next clip... | ||
| That was great quoting. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex Jones sort of talks a little bit about O 'Keefe's stunt of recording calls with Planned Parenthood, which he got into a bit of trouble for because he didn't have people's consent to... | ||
| No, it's against the law. | ||
| I believe that the person who went into the clinics pretending to be pregnant and recording people... | ||
| She did time, right? | ||
| I don't know if she did time, but she did get into some trouble about harassment. | ||
| Recording people without their consent and knowledge. | ||
| She had to donate to Planned Parenthood, specifically for minorities. | ||
| So here's Alex Jones' assessment, and this doesn't look good. | ||
| The student group randomly called seven different out of a list of hundreds. | ||
| They randomly chose seven different Planned Parenthoods. | ||
| They all said the same thing. | ||
| If you believe that he only called seven, you're insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Giggling, snickering. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| It's all about killing Blackie. | ||
| It's so liberal. | ||
| It's so sweet. | ||
| And of course, you'll never hear Barack Obama criticize it. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| There'll be lots of yelling and screaming about black pride, but at the end of the day, they know who they work for. | ||
| We'll cover this and a lot more. | ||
| Huge transmission today. | ||
| Stay with me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He sounds a little lethargic. | ||
| I think he sounds horny. | ||
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Oh, it's all about killing Blackie. | |
| Well, he's getting into it. | ||
| He's getting into it in a way that he doesn't always. | ||
| And you can see flickers of the next, the 2015 Planned Parenthood hoax even here. | ||
| There's the misquoting of people acting like they're, oh, indulgent and all this. | ||
| It's fascinating to me to take this document from 10 years ago where he's like, oh, I see present day in there. | ||
| Why? | ||
| I just like the fact that nobody is bombing Planned Parenthoods in this year. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| I'm glad nobody is spray-painting swastikas and all of that shit there. | ||
| In 2008? | ||
| 2008 was a much more innocent time. | ||
| I think there was at least one shooting at a Planned Parenthood clinic. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| The Tea Party was not a great organization. | ||
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No. | |
| But at least they weren't out-and-out Nazis. | ||
| Gotta give them that. | ||
| Wow, they were proto-Nazis. | ||
| They were pretty Nazi-ish. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex Jones gets into discussing the tapes a little bit more, and I don't think he does a good job. | ||
| They randomly called seven different Planned Parenthoods and got the same response. | ||
| Laughing, smacking of lips. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| The smacking of lips is literally what he says about those people in the Planned Parenthood tapes from 2015. | ||
| That's a direct, verbatim example that doesn't accurately depict either instance of the people from Planned Parenthood. | ||
| It's just a weird hang-up he has about people. | ||
| I love his constantly evolving tapes. | ||
| But smacking of lips somehow indicates to him evil. | ||
| It's weird, and it's consistent. | ||
| Yeah, I do think... | ||
| But again, the Planned Parenthood tapes, the second ones weren't O 'Keefe. | ||
| I'm not going to lie. | ||
| I think it's pretty good imagery, because whenever you hear smacking of lips, you think of a very animalistic behavior. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I think of a child, an annoying child. | ||
| That's what I think of. | ||
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Weird. | |
| Well, maybe it's because I got yelled at a lot for smacking when I ate when I was younger. | ||
| See, there you go. | ||
| Yeah, and I still feel a little bit ashamed. | ||
| Yeah, and you should. | ||
| Back to the clip. | ||
| Oh, there's too many blacks. | ||
| I want this for blacks. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| And the people that run these, I've been around them. | ||
| I've met them. | ||
| I've protested them. | ||
| They are literally some type of weird zombie. | ||
| They are just the sickest, most wicked, cult-like people you can imagine. | ||
| Don't believe me. | ||
| Just go down and go into one of these places and talk to them. | ||
| One has to experience the Matrix before they can really be told about it. | ||
| It's just better to experience it. | ||
| I think that his listeners who take him up on that and go down there and talk to them probably wouldn't go talk to them, probably go yell at them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was going to say, I like him describing... | ||
| It's tough to experience the Matrix when you're hostile to the Matrix. | ||
| I like the idea that the people who are going to work every day are the cult, not the... | ||
| Insane people standing outside of the building every day screaming and holding signs. | ||
| If you were going to choose which one was the cult, would it be the person getting paid a living wage? | ||
| Right. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, and the other thing, too, is that the only real relevant conversation here is does society... | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| It's just distraction over here to try and chip away at... | ||
| Women's right to reproductive health under the name of racism or something else. | ||
| Okay, so if your argument is that Planned Parenthood is racist... | ||
| Well, we can get into that. | ||
| Isn't that kind of, because that's kind of their argument, is that? | ||
| Yes, because that guy can be a white supremacist and then they'll be like, yes, we'll kill minorities. | ||
| Well, actually, put a pin in that because we're going to get back to it. | ||
| There's another clip later where Alex talks about Planned Parenthood being racist. | ||
| And then I can dispel all that. | ||
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Gotcha. | |
| But in this next clip, Alex Jones claims that all black leaders are globalists. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| Which, not racist. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't know one black leader. | ||
| He could have just stopped there. | ||
| In Austin, Texas? | ||
| Not now. | ||
| I don't know one black leader in Dallas where I grew up. | ||
| I don't know one black leader in the country. | ||
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Somebody in the media sticks out there. | |
| There's plenty of black leaders, but we're either assassinated or never even given any media attention. | ||
| But the mainline pimps of the New World Order, you know, the minions. | ||
| So what you have there is already a dichotomy that is unsustainable, it is untenable, because he's basically saying that any black leader that you're aware of is controlled by the globalists. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The only good ones are dead. | ||
| The only good ones are dead. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Which you could... | ||
| Take a look back through history and see a lot of very good black leaders who have been killed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In the Fred Hamptons, the Martin Luther Kings. | ||
| Who have been murdered. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| Murdered specifically for being good black leaders. | ||
| But that does not mean necessarily that all of the black leaders that you do see are globalist controlled. | ||
| Just because some good ones have been murdered. | ||
| But you see, you understand what the intention of that argument is. | ||
| It's to disenfranchise and take legitimacy and power away from any black voices that you do hear. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| But Al Sharpton is a globalist. | ||
| That's just the truth. | ||
| That's just the facts. | ||
| That might be the case. | ||
| That's the facts. | ||
| Also, James David Manning, globalist. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Of the New World Order. | ||
| And they've got every major group's people under control. | ||
| But the Judas Code's to control the black community. | ||
| They'll give fiery speeches about devil, whitey, all day. | ||
| Let's just talk about Farrakhan. | ||
| You know, thump their chest and talk about how whites are absolutely wicked and devilish and cunning and hurting the people. | ||
| He's probably talking about Obama's pastor, too. | ||
| When an average, the average white person's a guilty, you know, chicken-necked, limp-wristed person running around with a guilt complex. | ||
| Rolling out red carpets for black people in my experience. | ||
| That's not my experience. | ||
| But also, we can tell already in 2008, Alex Jones has his deep, deep white identity ideas and guilt. | ||
| I don't want you to make me feel bad for all the bad things that everybody I've ever known has done to black people. | ||
| Well, to be fair, I don't even think that he's at the point of saying, I don't want to be made to feel bad. | ||
| I think he's saying that all white people already unnecessarily feel bad, and he's pointing the finger at them for that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's not evolved his position, at least in this rant, to the point where... | ||
| Into the... | ||
| Stop making me feel bad. | ||
| Yeah, I'm afraid of feeling bad kind of thing. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Which is what? | ||
| Is that progress? | ||
| To be so correct that his denial then has to spiral further down into insanity? | ||
| I would call it regress. | ||
| I think it's negative progress. | ||
| I mean, I would call it racism. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So speaking of which, now we get to that clip. | ||
| Where he gets into Planned Parenthood and Margaret Sanger. | ||
| Are we going to do the Sanger thing again? | ||
| It's a different part of it. | ||
| It's a different Sanger. | ||
| We've already discussed the idea that Margaret Sanger was in the KKK. | ||
| She wasn't. | ||
| We've already discussed the idea that she started clinics specifically in black neighborhoods. | ||
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She didn't. | |
| The earlier ones were in African American neighborhoods and Jewish and immigrant communities. | ||
| They're for women. | ||
| Which may be the largest issue of all for these assholes. | ||
| The clinics, especially in the early times, We're disproportionately in low-income neighborhoods because those were the populations they were serving. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because they needed help. | ||
| Because rich people have always been able to get abortions. | ||
| Even if you make it illegal, rich people will still have it. | ||
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Right. | |
| The reason that they're in poor neighborhoods is because they don't have access to it the way that they should. | ||
| And that's something that, through her writings, she made very clear. | ||
| The idea that making it illegal doesn't end abortions. | ||
| It just makes them kill women. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Basically. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But Alex Jones has another quote from her. | ||
| Which may be why they... | ||
| Maybe they hide... | ||
| Maybe that's a smart idea, too. | ||
| Maybe they hide behind the idea that Planned Parenthood is racist in order to kind of counteract the fact that their hatred of it is more misogynist than anything else. | ||
| There's some of that. | ||
| It's an inability to respect women. | ||
|
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For sure. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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Like any criticism Criticism of Planned Parenthood on that kind of angle is misogynist in nature. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It's essentially saying women shouldn't be allowed to choose. | ||
| Men should be allowed to choose for women. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, that's what it really is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, to imagine that it is racist is, like, even if you think Planned Parenthood is racist, you're still a misogynist. | ||
| You don't get a pass on that. | ||
| You don't win. | ||
| No, but the argument that they're making is, like, the murder of babies, because that's the way they view it, and the racism, the specific trying to exterminate the black community, because that's what they pretend Planned Parenthood is doing, precedes, it supersedes my misogyny. | ||
| This is more important. | ||
| But that doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Take the plank out of your eye before you criticize the speck in mine. | ||
| You don't understand, like... | ||
| Why would you need to escalate it to racism? | ||
| If your argument is they're murdering babies, why do you even need that additional like, oh, and they're racist? | ||
| Because I think some people are stupid and are tricked by the racism narratives regarding Planned Parenthood. | ||
| Yeah, but then that's just that they're fine with murdering babies so long as it's not racist. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| I didn't think about that. | ||
| Anyway, I want to get to this clip because we're coming up on... | ||
| Maybe my favorite clip. | ||
| One of my favorite clips of all time. | ||
| This one is not that, but it is about Margaret Sanger in a new way that we haven't discussed yet. | ||
| And the truth about it... | ||
| It's the Sanger banger. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And the truth about it is pretty interesting. | ||
| You have Planned Parenthood predominantly in the minority areas. | ||
| It's mission. | ||
| And these are the official writings and letters of Margaret Sanger and Foundation Minutes saying that the black person is a weed and must be exterminated. | ||
| And there's letters to all these robber barons. | ||
| She was getting millions of dollars, and that was the equivalent of billions back then. | ||
| She was being jailed. | ||
| To set up these foundations and how, oh, we've got to hire black front doctors because the blacks only trust other blacks. | ||
| So that part is the one we've already talked about there at the end. | ||
| The idea that in a letter that she wrote, she was saying that she wanted to get black doctors, and it wasn't because we can trick them. | ||
| No, it's probably because they don't have as many jobs. | ||
| So many different reasons you could have black doctors. | ||
| That's probably part of it, but the excuse or the reasoning that she gives in the actual letter is that people are more likely to be trusting with people of their own social set. | ||
| And so the idea of opening up to a white doctor might be more difficult than a black person opening up to a black doctor. | ||
| And again, remember, this was like in the 1920s. | ||
| Furthermore, I don't have any problem with that. | ||
| I don't either. | ||
| I don't think any black person should trust a white person, ever. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Ever! | ||
| Why would you? | ||
| I thought you were going to go a different direction. | ||
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No! | |
| I should have known. | ||
| Why would you? | ||
| So, Alex Jones is talking, he said... | ||
| It's like a Native American trusting a white person. | ||
| Don't do it! | ||
| The part that I wanted to take out of that quote is the thing about black people being weeds that he's quoting Margaret Sanger on saying. | ||
| Yeah, but, okay. | ||
| So this is interesting. | ||
| Is it in the minutes? | ||
| Well, see, there's a quote that's attributed to her from 1922 that went around in a meme that says, Well, then it must be true. | ||
| Slavs, Latin, and Hebrew immigrants are human weeds, a dead weight of human waste. | ||
| Black soldiers and Jews are a menace to the race. | ||
| That's an aggressive quote. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So on Snopes, they got into it and they did a bit of research into finding out what the truth of this was. | ||
| And so I'll just read from their breakdown. | ||
| Was it just the word no with 400 O's and an exclamation point? | ||
| Tracing the origins of the quote above proved difficult as many primary iterations of it have since been deleted from the web, though some are cached. | ||
| The earliest versions we were able to locate didn't appear until sometime between 2008 and 2009, right when we're talking about. | ||
| Primarily on blogs and message boards. | ||
| All of these initial iterations cited a now-deleted page on a Crisis Pregnancy Center's website. | ||
| Oh, so you know it's true! | ||
| A cache of which can be viewed here, and they link to it. | ||
| The page was titled Racist and Eugenicist Statements by Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. | ||
| And that iteration of the quote suggested, via the creative use of bracketed paraphrasing, Sanger's words had been somewhat creatively interpreted. | ||
| Did she write them in French? | ||
| What they had from the website is this quote. | ||
| Slavs, Latin, and Hebrew immigrants are human weeds, a dead weight of human waste. | ||
| Black soldiers and Jews are a menace to the race. | ||
| Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need. | ||
| We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock. | ||
| And then it quotes Margaret Sanger, April 1933, Birth Control Review. | ||
| If she ran as a Republican, she would win. | ||
| The publication Birth Control Review is available online, and they looked through it. | ||
| That quote doesn't exist in any way where the citation comes from. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| So this is just a meme. | ||
| Alex is just referencing something that was quoted on message boards. | ||
| He's pretending that he did deep research into this, and it's nonsense. | ||
| He's just believing a hoax. | ||
| Well, I mean, even then, if it is in the minutes, like, say that it's true, right? | ||
| This was in the minutes. | ||
| Margaret Sanger said it, and it was written down. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're talking about this in 2008. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If I was running Planned Parenthood in, say, the 60s, and I were looking through Margaret Sanger, our inspiration for existing's notes, and I saw that, I'd be like, nah, we're gonna leave that shit out. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So somehow, that's supposing then that somebody had a copy of these minutes and passed them down hand-to-hand to get to 2008. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what we're really saying right here, is that this is an oral history of bullshit. | ||
| It sounds wild. | ||
| But, I mean, let's not be super unfair. | ||
| Margaret Sanger was into eugenics. | ||
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Eh, who isn't? | |
| But from all her writings, she doesn't seem to be a racial eugenics person. | ||
| Right. | ||
| She seems to be a practical... | ||
| What if we killed all the dumb people? | ||
| Well, yeah, unfortunately. | ||
| Unfortunately, there was some of that. | ||
| But that was a prevailing theory in the 20s. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like, it's not good, and it's certainly something that we hopefully all should have moved past at this point. | ||
| Now, any eugenics in the 20s was inextricably tied to race, regardless of whatever it was dressed up as. | ||
| Likely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the argument that Alex makes about Planned Parenthood having racial eugenics roots, it just doesn't stand up to scrutiny. | ||
| That isn't accurate. | ||
| Look, here's the thing about that. | ||
| No matter how good a person you are, immediately after the election, there was probably a point where you were like, what if we did just get rid of dumb people? | ||
| Now, that's technically eugenics. | ||
| It's a dangerous precedent. | ||
| It's an awful thing to think, and you immediately go, well, that's a bad idea. | ||
| But at the same time, the thought is there. | ||
| Jordan, I'm going to skip this next clip because it's not as interesting as I thought when I was cutting clips. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And all it is is Alex Jones saying that all Nazis are either feds or actually Jewish and just trying to cause trouble. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| So we'll leave this alone. | ||
| I want to get into that. | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Leave it alone because he said it before in the past. | ||
| I was just trying to trace that, like, that's something he's believed for years. | ||
| I wonder if he says that. | ||
| Oh yeah, he does. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But anyway, the reason I'm skipping it is because I need to get to this next clip. | ||
| This makes me so... | ||
| I mean, his friends are Nazis. | ||
| This makes me so happy, Jordan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This, to a T, is why there's still... | ||
| Despite everything I know about him and how horrible a man he is in 2018... | ||
| You still kind of love him? | ||
| There's a part of me that... | ||
| I want there to be a way he can be saved. | ||
| You're rooting for the redemption narrative. | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| But back in 2008, it might have been possible, and I know it from this clip. | ||
| Put your mic down. | ||
| This tickles me and charms me to no end. | ||
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okay i was a highway man With sword and pistol by my side. | |
| Many a young man lost her bubbles to my trade. | ||
| Many a soldier. | ||
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Many a soldier shed his lifeblood on my blade. | |
| The bastards hung me in the spring of 25. Wait for this moment that's coming. | ||
| It's so gorgeous. | ||
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I am still alive. | |
| I was a sailor. | ||
| I was born upon the tide. | ||
| With the sea I did abide. | ||
| I wonder what he thinks about 9-11. | ||
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I still have someone around the horn of Mexico. | |
| I went along to the world and made so little blow. | ||
| And when the eyes broke off, they said that I got killed. | ||
| Living still. | ||
| Best part right here. | ||
| First, I gotta pause for a second. | ||
| Spoiler alert, he plays the whole song. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But also, when he... | ||
| Air guitar? | ||
| When he just said... | ||
| Is he gonna air guitar? | ||
| When he just said, best part right here, that is exactly the point in the song where many times I've drunkenly said, best part of the song coming up right here. | ||
| Old Waylon Jennings. | ||
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I was a damn building. | |
| Across the river deep and wide Where steel and water didn't collide A place called Boulder on the wild Colorado I slipped and fell into the west This is on the show! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
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They buried me in that bridge that knows no sound We're back live, ladies and gentlemen. | |
| We do have a big guest today, by the way. | ||
| I should have told you this at the start of the transmission. | ||
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Dr. Dean Adele is coming up in the next segment. | |
| We'll see if he shows up in this interview. | ||
| I'm looking forward to that. | ||
| I'll find a place. | ||
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I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can. | |
| Perhaps. | ||
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Perhaps I may become a highwayman again. | |
| Yeah, Dr. Dean Adele coming up. | ||
| Part three of interviews we've been doing with Jeffrey Smith at noon. | ||
| About 40 minutes into the transmission from now. | ||
| And Bob Chapman today for a full hour. | ||
| Ooh, Bob Chapman. | ||
| Getting into the financials. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Can't wait to hear some Bob Chapman. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| He played the whole Highwaymen song. | ||
| That's so awesome. | ||
| That's so awesome. | ||
| What an alternate reality radio show. | ||
| Don't you kind of like him? | ||
| I kind of like that. | ||
| I swear to God, if he was a radio DJ and he just did that for a bunch of classic country songs. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'd find that okay! | ||
| Just talking over it a little bit? | ||
| Even if he occasionally threw in the... | ||
| Also, by the way, Planned Parenthood is full of racist monsters. | ||
| Anyways, and then he goes right back to the song and be like, that wasn't okay. | ||
| But I love what you're doing. | ||
| He's playing Amarillo by morning and he's like, this song's about the rodeo. | ||
| Amarillo by morning. | ||
| Up from Santa Fe. | ||
| Sound of tone? | ||
| Sound of tone. | ||
| Yeah, but that's the stuff, man, where you see those flickers of like, that's fun. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| And it's even more surreal. | ||
| That's a real laugh! | ||
| He was genuinely having fun. | ||
| He was so happy. | ||
| He was genuinely having fun. | ||
| The worst thing that ever happened to him is he got popular. | ||
| Oh my god, we should go... | ||
| He's so thrilled. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's so thrilled just to be like, hey, this Waylon Jennings verse is the best part. | ||
| Okay, so we just figured it out. | ||
| New way to interview Alex Jones. | ||
| Don't even bother with asking him questions. | ||
| Don't bother with trying to gotcha clips. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Play that stuff and be like, do you remember when you were happy, Alex? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Pretend to be Waylon Jennings. | ||
| Well, now. | ||
| I think he's dead. | ||
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Okay. | |
| That, to me, is... | ||
| Okay, so then... | ||
| Or you could just... | ||
| That was good. | ||
| In the song, he does say, I'll always be around. | ||
| He will always be around. | ||
| I just can't get over it. | ||
| I can't get over stuff like that. | ||
| Anybody who's watched reruns of the Dukes of Hazzard knows. | ||
| You kind of get a sense of what I'm talking about at the beginning of the show. | ||
| What I'm talking about, the present when he's just on this... | ||
| Distraction bullshit. | ||
| I can go back to the past, find stuff he's lying about, we can have fun, and then I can hear stuff like that! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| No, he's a huge piece of shit, but that's charming. | ||
| That's charming, and you gotta give him that. | ||
| And the surreality of him just talking about, like, you know, blacks are the real racist group, and Planned Parenthood's trying to exterminate black people. | ||
| All black leaders are globalists. | ||
| I was a highway man. | ||
| I can't get enough of it. | ||
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I love it. | |
| I love it so much. | ||
| It's such a weird thing. | ||
| So, in that, at the end of that, during Johnny Cash's verse, there at the end about, I'll fly a starship across the universe divide, and if I reach the other side, I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can. | ||
| You're no Alex Jones. | ||
| Perhaps I'll become a highwayman again. | ||
| Or maybe. | ||
| I'll just be a single drop of rain. | ||
| Listening to you and that song and the way you feel about that song and then listening to Alex and the way he feels about that song gives me such a, like, you guys are the Batman and the Joker kind of, like, you're the same spectrum, just two opposite ends of the pole. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| I am the darker brother. | ||
| You are... | ||
| I'm referencing a poem. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| But be that as it may. | ||
| In the context of the racist Planned Parenthood stuff, pretty funny, though. | ||
| That was, I mean, to be fair, spoiler alert, that's one of my old karaoke jams. | ||
| Also, love getting up there and singing that Highwaymen. | ||
| Anyway, at the end there, Alex is saying that we got some big interviews coming up. | ||
| We got Bob Chapman. | ||
| The whole time I was listening to that song, I was like, when is Jon Bon Jovi's verse? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
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How dare you? | |
| He would have made that song great. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| He says at the end he's got big interviews. | ||
| We've got Bob Chapman, also known as the guy who said that Reagan got buttfucked. | ||
| And we're not going to listen to much of him. | ||
| He also has a guy named... | ||
| He's not on the buttfuck bullshit today? | ||
| No, he wants to talk about the economy. | ||
| Oh, bullshit! | ||
| And he gets usurped by something else, which we'll talk about at the end of the show. | ||
| He also has an interview with a guy named Jeffrey Smith, who just wants to talk about GMOs a whole bunch. | ||
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Right. | |
| And we'll get to that in a little bit. | ||
| They're bad. | ||
| But before he does, he has an interview with Dr. Dean Adele. | ||
| Dean Adele or something. | ||
| Triple D. I'm not sure who this doctor is entirely. | ||
| I know he has a radio show. | ||
| Oh, it's a guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I haven't looked into him too much. | ||
| I don't really care to all that much because in the same way that Alex singing the entire song of Highwaymen was endearing and delightful. | ||
| This is not. | ||
| No, it's amazing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| In 2008, Alex Jones was still in a place. | ||
| Where he would invite people onto his show who would just own him. | ||
| Dr. Dell, Adele, I don't know, Dean, whatever. | ||
| Dina. | ||
| He just... | ||
| Keep smacking the shit out of Alex. | ||
| Really? | ||
| In this first clip... | ||
| I want to hear this so bad now. | ||
| In the first clip, Alex tries to get into vaccines with him, and the response should have led Alex to a more intellectual study of the things he talks about. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Nah, dude, fuck that. | ||
| We know from history that Alex Jones just ignores everything that he hears from this literal, real doctor, as opposed to his chiropractor friend. | ||
| The point is, the point really isn't the art. | ||
| Don't you care whether thimerosal causes diseases or not? | ||
| So at this point, Alex is making the argument that thimerosal is the chemical that's being tainting in vaccines. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He has since, I think, changed it a little bit. | ||
| I'm not sure what the chemical he argues for now is... | ||
| Trimerosal. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You've got to care about that first. | ||
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You've got to show me evidence that Marisol is mad. | |
| Houston Chronicle, here it is. | ||
| Health officials admit vaccines may have hurt Georgia girl. | ||
| Federal Blue Ribbon Panel, this is just February 25th. | ||
| This is just last month. | ||
| Found and ruled in her favor. | ||
| This is a Blue Ribbon Panel. | ||
| Keep reading, but you've got to keep reading where it says this does not imply that vaccines cause autism. | ||
| This young child, if indeed, this is not a court of law, by the way. | ||
| He's making reference to something that we've gone over. | ||
| The vaccine court is not a court of law. | ||
| There's different standards of what you have to prove. | ||
| That one case, out of millions and millions and millions and millions, this child has a genetic defect that's very unusual, a mitochondrial DNA defect, in combination with something having to do with vaccines, not thimerosal, read it carefully, may have played a role in a single case. | ||
| When an airplane goes down, do you stop flying? | ||
| No, but it's... | ||
| Okay, so we've got to grow up here. | ||
| You don't get technology that is white... | ||
| We've got to quit being a little bit. | ||
| ...off the face of the earth, smallpox off the face of the earth. | ||
| Where is the theory of whooping cough? | ||
| Tetanus, where are these diseases? | ||
| You don't take that technology because there is some flaw and it's not absolutely perfect. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| If you love it and you're willing to take a 1 in 2,500 risk of killing yourself this year, Americans have got to grow up and understand that technology is not perfect. | ||
| You have to be willing to sacrifice. | ||
| Let me stop you. | ||
| Let me stop you. | ||
| There are actually, and if you'd like, actually about 50 of them here in front of me. | ||
| So he goes on to say, like, you can't... | ||
| It's fun for you to just go up there and say, you know, there aren't studies. | ||
| I have 50 of them here. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| So then he goes on to be... | ||
| My favorite part. | ||
| My favorite part was just him saying... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Not that. | ||
| Just the first thing he said was, you have to keep reading, Alex. | ||
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Right. | |
| That was immediately like, ah, you won. | ||
| You won easily. | ||
| Easily you won. | ||
| To be fair, it's a point we make a lot. | ||
| I know, but... | ||
| But to say it to his face? | ||
| It's pretty impressive. | ||
| So good. | ||
| So at that point, Alex Jones starts yelling about, like, there's so much autism in the world. | ||
| Why are the numbers going up so much? | ||
| I mean, he's manipulatively using autism numbers. | ||
| And again, we've gone over this over and over and over again. | ||
| The numbers don't reflect reality necessarily because... | ||
| Again, read Neurotribes. | ||
| It's a great book. | ||
| Well, I'm not sure if this is the argument that's being made in that, but if you want to talk about a less evolved time in our history, we didn't understand various parts of the spectrum, and we didn't understand how to diagnose properly. | ||
| There were a lot of people who were autistic who weren't presenting it, and this Isn't it crazy how autism diagnoses have rised and yet hysteria diagnoses have fallen? | ||
| Interesting. | ||
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Isn't it strange how many different diseases have... | |
| Have disappeared almost entirely. | ||
| Well, but it's the same thing that you can make these stupid arguments about. | ||
| Like, I'm sure what he would do, and I think he probably believes this, this idea of, like, the feminization of society. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| And all this, and it's like, why are there so many trans people here now? | ||
| There weren't before. | ||
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Right. | |
| And what he's not taking into account is how many people were trans before, but either killed themselves or never were comfortable. | ||
| Sure, yeah. | ||
| Or never comfortable living in public. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, that sort of thing. | ||
| Those sorts of things can't be captured by statistics, but they are a part of life. | ||
| And that's the way he manipulatively uses these statistics and what have you. | ||
| Anyway, at this point... | ||
| Mr. and Mrs. Smith, I'm afraid your child has been diagnosed with douchebaggery. | ||
| That's... | ||
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No, no. | |
| It's Mr. and Mrs. Jones. | ||
| David Jones, my dad. | ||
| I hope he never dies. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex Jones, because Dr. Dean Adele is saying like, hey, you've got to... | ||
| Could you say Dean Adele? | ||
| Because I keep hearing Dean Adele. | ||
| I do too. | ||
| And that's a delightful name, but it's not his name. | ||
| The problem is I didn't look into it. | ||
| Dean Adele. | ||
| Dean Adele. | ||
| Of all the things I look into, one of them wasn't, who is this doctor? | ||
| I just didn't have time. | ||
| Anyway, Alex at this point tries to go into, like, just, you know, hey, here's a story I can tell you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, like, this will prove my point. | ||
| I was in a hot tub. | ||
| More or less. | ||
| With three different guys. | ||
| What is doing it, Doc? | ||
| How come there's just suddenly all these autistic kids everywhere? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| But because it's increased, it doesn't mean... | ||
| But did the Tooth Fairy do this? | ||
| Did the tooth fairy do what? | ||
| Increase autism? | ||
| But don't you want to? | ||
| But listen, I want to find out why and what's going on to waste all this money. | ||
| I don't even need scientific studies. | ||
| I've talked to, and I've got them, by the way. | ||
| I mean, I'll be at a shopping mall. | ||
| I'll be on vacation. | ||
| There's a lady there at the pool. | ||
| She's got an autistic son. | ||
| And I walk over and I say, when did this happen? | ||
| Oh, he was 18 months old. | ||
| Let me guess. | ||
| He had a convulsion that night. | ||
| She goes, how do you know? | ||
| Do you know me? | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| He had a convulsion after that, and I said, oh, let me guess. | ||
| The hospital tried to take your kids, saying you shook them. | ||
| Real quick, we'll get to the doctor's response, but I just want to point out this is a story he tells to present day. | ||
| This is one of his favorite stories. | ||
| It still goes on. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He uses this exact same... | ||
| This is like one of those road hacks who's been doing the same hour for 20 years. | ||
| And it's the same as stand-up comedy where it's like, I was talking to this guy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, you fucking work. | ||
| Man, why is it they get the shot and sometimes have a convulsion in the hospital? | ||
| Listen, it's a common reasoning fallacy. | ||
| There are so many shots that are given to kids. | ||
| There is nothing can happen in a child that isn't a week or two after a shot or a week or two before the shot. | ||
| And it sure seems like there's a relationship. | ||
| It sure seems like it. | ||
| And if there is, we need to find out. | ||
| But we're just wasting and spinning our wheels, not getting to the bottom of autism, by constantly having to put down a theory that kind of came and it kind of went. | ||
| So let's move on. | ||
| Why is it that older fathers have more autistic kids? | ||
| Why is it that women have certain obstetrical problems? | ||
| Well, obviously they know. | ||
| So then he just goes off into more of the patent bullshit that he always does. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| I have fallen in love with Dr. Dean Adele. | ||
| You're going to love him even more, because in this next clip, Alex tries to bring up fluoride to him. | ||
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No! | |
| Oh, he's going to get fucked up on fluoride. | ||
| This is really interesting. | ||
| His response is... | ||
| I love the way that the doctor is just like... | ||
| He's doing kind of what we aspire to do. | ||
| He's laughing. | ||
| Well, Alex, come on. | ||
| He's treating him like a child. | ||
| Well, he is a child. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's why it's really stinging. | ||
| The grow up part. | ||
| We've got to grow up. | ||
| The logical fallacy. | ||
| Once he laid that out, you're like, ooh, Alex, what do you got? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's all you got. | ||
| You made a noise. | ||
| Anyway, on to fluoride. | ||
| Let's take sodium fluoride. | ||
| I just said to you during the break, did you know that they take the whole waste from the aluminum and, of course, fertilizer manufacturer, and then that's what they call fluoride that they then put in the water? | ||
| And you said, I've never heard that. | ||
| I'm going to make sure you get emailed all the mainstream documentation and the head of epidemiology departments and FDA investigators all saying... | ||
| FCC, FBI. | ||
| I mean, did you hear about the American Dental Association coming out a year and a half ago and saying, don't give babies fluoride water? | ||
| Right, because they're getting plenty of it. | ||
| They're getting plenty of it as it is, and you've got to be very careful. | ||
| Now, if you're saying that they use waste material to produce fluoride... | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised, but at the same token, I can take water from your toilet after you flush. | ||
| I can reduce pure water. | ||
| And you might say, hey, I'm drinking sewage here. | ||
| No, you're drinking pure water. | ||
| It's just been processed, manufactured, etc. | ||
| So I'm not sure what they use to make fluoride. | ||
| And there are people in America that get too much fluoride. | ||
| You see the little white spots on kids' front teeth. | ||
| Rotholes. | ||
| And that often can come from fluoride. | ||
| Well, you've got fluorosis. | ||
| Well, there's this big Harvard situation where the graduate doctor did the report about increased type of bone cancer. | ||
| But that's not a new debate. | ||
| I've seen a bunch of mainline university studies from China to Japan to England where it causes massive increases in that type of cancer in boys. | ||
| Now, wait a second. | ||
| Massive increases, you've got to be careful with that in terms of implying cause and effect, because it might seem so. | ||
| Doubling, tripling, depending on the study. | ||
| Yeah, well, I doubt it. | ||
| How's that? | ||
| But do you have those in front of you? | ||
| But excess in that, listen. | ||
| When you start doing studies, here's something the pharmaceutical companies do all the time. | ||
| Let's suppose I have a drug, and I'm putting it on the market, and I do eight studies in a row to find this drug's a piece of crap, and it's causing side effects and killing people. | ||
| Then the eighth and the ninth study finds, which we tweaked the study right, find out, hey, this is a great drug and doesn't cause side effects. | ||
| What do you think is going to get published? | ||
| So you've got to be very, very careful in that you look at, and this is what's difficult, the entire body of the literature. | ||
| There are people in America today that membership is 650 who still believe the Earth is flat. | ||
| And they do their studies to produce it. | ||
| I would not offer that as evidence. | ||
| I would not say it's a controversy. | ||
| When 99.99% of scientists believe one thing... | ||
| I want a hug from you, Dr. Dean. | ||
| ...believe another, why is it in America we want to go, because we love the underdog, I guess, we want to go with a.01%. | ||
| Dr. Dean, you're doing what the big, and that's who's pushing it, the big governments and banks are doing, pushing for a global carbon tax while ignoring all the real toxic waste and the rest of it. | ||
| They say every scientist agrees with man-made global warming when that's actually not the truth. | ||
| It's the opposite. | ||
| The vast majority believe it's not man-made. | ||
| It's the sun cycle. | ||
| And so you're saying everybody, you know, they all know that... | ||
| I'll put it to you another way. | ||
| Tell me the last time that you saw in the history of science, because I know a few examples here, when you saw that 0.1% of scientists turn out to be right. | ||
| And if they turned out to be right, by the way, they proved their case. | ||
| But it isn't.1% that believe that sodium fluoride... | ||
| Tell me the last time the iconoclast turned out to be right. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Alex has no answer. | ||
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| But you also notice there he moved the goalpost. | ||
| When was the last time an iconoclast turned out to be right? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| But you understand, like, he moved the goalpost there. | ||
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Right. | |
| He was talking about fluoride and all that. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| And then he's like, ah, you're one of these guys who's pushing carbon tax. | ||
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Yeah, well, yeah. | |
| Well, it's like, all right, how do we have a logical conversation when you just keep moving everything around? | ||
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Right. | |
| You're like, well, okay, that's a whole new conversation. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Man, this guy is killing it. | ||
| Anytime you're right, anytime you're right to somebody who doesn't want to admit you're right, they're going to change the subject. | ||
| But in the same way, he's still rolling with it really well. | ||
| He's rolling with the, like, Alex changing the conversation. | ||
| He's like, well, alright, now we're talking about this. | ||
| So then, okay, if you want to do that. | ||
| Let's talk about how dumb you are here. | ||
| The problem is that now, Alex... | ||
| How many angles of dumb do you want me to describe you as? | ||
| Do you want me to come at you over here? | ||
| Because I got you. | ||
| You're actually stupid, Alex, and that's why you're losing. | ||
| Alex is a million-dollar operation now, man. | ||
| He can't do stuff like this, like get owned over and over again by a real doctor on his show. | ||
| It's pretty hilarious, though. | ||
| Because at this point, what he should have done, if he was smart, what he should have done is be like... | ||
| Get out! | ||
| Get out! | ||
| Go! | ||
| Go! | ||
| That, or he should have, like... | ||
| Oh, we lost our connection with his phone. | ||
| He should have... | ||
| And Rob Du beat the shit out of him. | ||
| We just lost him. | ||
| I don't know what happened. | ||
| Rob Du curb stomped him in the alley. | ||
| But, like, the reality is, like, he should have taken some of this to heart. | ||
| Like, okay, these are really good points about why my reasoning is flawed. | ||
| And I'm gonna try and do better in the future. | ||
| That's not how human beings work. | ||
| If I were him, I would leave this show feeling like shit. | ||
| I would leave being like, I blew it. | ||
| I blew it. | ||
| But he doesn't. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| But that's, in countless study after study, it is always like, hey, whenever people are shown to be wrong, they just double the fuck down. | ||
| And they get angry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what people do. | ||
| You want to believe in your own bullshit. | ||
| Like, it takes constant reflection and constant vigilance to not get eaten up by your own bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, self-criticism is very important. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now it'll get you killed. | ||
| It won't make you happy. | ||
| Alex is probably happier lying to himself than we are constantly evaluating ourselves. | ||
| He's happier when he's singing Highwayman. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So are you. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| Batman to your Joker. | ||
| We got one more clip of the Doctor and Alex having a little conversation about what have you. | ||
| And this one's good because this is really just him trying to lay out simplistic logical concepts to Alex. | ||
| He's not going to succeed in this front. | ||
| And I'm sure you know, you're a medical doctor at Procedures University, that a lot of our modern sciences were dominated by eugenicists. | ||
| Up until 30-something states had forced sterilization here, and then they went underground with crypto-eugenics after World War II. | ||
| Were you aware of that? | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| But I kind of don't think it's helpful to take our past mistakes and condemn the future. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| These things have been horrible black marks on the history of science, and like the horrible black... | ||
| Listen, you can say America is a horrible, horrible country because of all the horrible things we did. | ||
| And look at our mistakes and go down all the bad things we've done internationally and with other countries and in war and violence and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah in our history. | ||
| Maybe don't blah, blah, blah, blah all that, but... | ||
| You know, so I think you've got to be very, very careful when you raise these issues in terms of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. | ||
| But I'm not saying the whole country is bad. | ||
| I'm saying these mad scientists... | ||
| Who literally, I mean, that guy, Watson, at the Human Genome Project at Coal Springs Harbor, he was there when it was eugenics. | ||
| I read books. | ||
| Oh, no, this guy's got terrible racist views. | ||
| It's all of them, though. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
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So what? | |
| Now, what? | ||
| Don't say all of them. | ||
| Now, come on. | ||
| Okay, 95% of the captains of modern... | ||
| Well, 5% is not all. | ||
| You said all. | ||
| I'm saying the vast majority of the captains. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| I mean, 50 years ago, almost everybody at the highest levels of science in this country, in England and Germany, raving racist. | ||
| Everybody knows that. | ||
| Well, I'd say 50 years ago, most people were. | ||
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But those ideas... | |
| I grew up in America. | ||
| I'm a child of World War II, and I would say we had and still have a problem with all this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Motherfucking yeah! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Out of our year of doing this, we have finally found a true hero on the Alex Jones Show. | ||
| This man is everything I have ever wanted to be. | ||
| I'm going to take a step back, because I don't know enough about him, and there might be some really terrible shit that he's done or advocated for. | ||
| Yeah, he might want to commit white genocide. | ||
| No, but I mean, he could. | ||
| Which means he's on my team. | ||
| There could be some dark history. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| And until I look into it, I'm not willing to totally vouch for him. | ||
| I want to live... | ||
| Dan! | ||
| Don't bring reality into this. | ||
| Do you know how hard I have wanted a true hero on our InfoWars podcast? | ||
| It's pretty wild. | ||
| This is beautiful. | ||
| This man is patient. | ||
| He is kind. | ||
| He is... | ||
| He's enjoying himself, and he is constantly slapping Alex down. | ||
| Are you shitting me? | ||
| Suck it. | ||
| I have just heard the man I want my father to be. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| But, I mean, in that last clip there, what we saw him explain to Alex is what's known as a composition fallacy. | ||
| The idea that an individual is indicative of the character of the whole. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Alex is not really willing to do any of this work. | ||
| He's not willing to... | ||
| Deal with the world reasonably. | ||
| And I love the idea of this guy just coming in. | ||
| And Alex could have gotten rid of him at any point. | ||
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So fast. | |
| They went multiple commercial breaks with him. | ||
| Well, but he had to find a way. | ||
| It was like if you're bombing, you still want to try and go out on a laugh. | ||
| He wants to try and go out on a win. | ||
| On a gotcha. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And it never comes. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| He has no chance. | ||
| You saw while he was singing along to the Highwaymen, and Alex was doing his introductions. | ||
| He made it seem like, let's see if he shows up. | ||
| That's sort of like, I'm going to get him. | ||
| That's pathetic. | ||
| I don't want to treat it like... | ||
| I don't like treating arguments as though there's a winner and a loser. | ||
| When you and I argue about things, it's not about trying to win. | ||
| I don't feel great. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I like to learn. | ||
| I love being wrong. | ||
| Like, when you're wrong, just like he was saying, when the iconoclast is right. | ||
| I feel like the loser in our argument about whether The Return to Innocence was a good song before the show. | ||
| Yeah, well, you are. | ||
| But what he's talking about is when the iconoclast is right, science, what he didn't get to finish as, was science goes batshit. | ||
| And they love it. | ||
| Everything changes. | ||
| Everything changes. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| That's the one thing about science that's amazing. | ||
| And the point that he did make also is that when the iconoclast is right, it's because they have proved it. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And you have an obligation to prove these things. | ||
| And then it's on you to, you have the obligation to be like, I'm wrong. | ||
| This guy proved it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's the difference there. | ||
| So that's why I don't like arguments as a win or lose thing. | ||
| I like whenever I'm wrong, because then I get to learn a new thing. | ||
| Like, that's crazy. | ||
| It changes the way that I feel about things. | ||
| It's the lose well, Chris Gethard model of life. | ||
| I mean, like, how many of our conversations have ended with me saying, you know what, you're right, and I've changed my opinion on you? | ||
| Well, on the show a bunch. | ||
| On the show a bunch. | ||
| In private, you scream at me. | ||
| Look, in public, I will admit my failings. | ||
| In private, I'll see you in hell, Dan. | ||
| You scream at me about how I should love Kanye and what have you. | ||
| Look, you should love Kanye. | ||
| Let's not get into this. | ||
| In this next clip. | ||
| So we're done with the doctor, and now this guy named Jeffrey Smith comes onto the show. | ||
| Basically, all he's doing is talking about the evils of GMO. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And fair enough, to some extent. | ||
| Disagree. | ||
| Well, I don't think that GMOs are as dangerous as people like Alex make them out to be, but the GMO companies, the Monsantos of the world, are absolutely problems. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, the problem isn't GMO, then. | ||
| The problem is unilateral monopolies. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And patenting genes and that sort of thing. | ||
| All that stuff is... | ||
| Those are issues, I would argue, of capitalism. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They're not so much scientific problems. | ||
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No. | |
| And this guy comes on and he has a laundry list of these specific examples of people who are investigating GMOs that got screwed over and what have you. | ||
| And I don't believe any of them. | ||
| And I didn't have the time to research all of them, but one of them stuck out to me because it's an argument that Alex will continue to use up till present day. | ||
| This is another example of the genesis of one of his arguments against GMOs. | ||
| It was Dr. Dean Adele fucking with him while wearing a fake O.T.? | ||
| A fake voice and glasses, I like to say. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| It's Jeffrey Smith. | ||
| He lists out this. | ||
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Bad. | |
| GMOs are bad. | ||
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Bad. | |
| He gives a specific example of someone who has been destroyed by the GMO lobby or what have you. | ||
| Margaret Sanger. | ||
| Nope. | ||
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Let's give another example. | |
| Irina Ermakova. | ||
| I interviewed her at the EU Parliament after we gave a presentation there. | ||
| She had documents. | ||
| She had a piece of paper. | ||
| She came back to her office one day and a piece of paper was burnt on her desk, kind of as a warning. | ||
| Some of her samples had been stolen. | ||
| She was told by her director to no longer do research on genetically engineered foods. | ||
| She was attacked viciously in a published peer-reviewed journal that had lied to her, telling her that she was going to be authoring an article about her research, and it turns out they just wanted to set her up. | ||
| So what was her crime? | ||
| Well, her crime was discovering that rats that were fed genetically engineered soybeans That the offspring died at more than 50% compared to the offspring of rats that were fed regular soy and only died at about 10%. | ||
| She also found that the size of the offspring when the mothers were fed GM soy was much smaller and they couldn't reproduce. | ||
| So her crime was simply feeding rats genetically engineered soy that we eat every day and discovering death and problems in the offspring. | ||
| So... | ||
| This has now been absorbed by Alex Jones as a piece of his narrative about what the globalists want to do to us. | ||
| He uses it to say, studies have shown that rats who eat GMO die much sooner and are unable to reproduce, and they're smaller than normal rats, and that's what the globalists want to do to you. | ||
| To which I say... | ||
| He says after three generations that rats eating GMO foods are unable to reproduce. | ||
| That doesn't make sense, nor is it reasonable. | ||
| No, and I looked into this a little bit. | ||
| It's simply not how... | ||
| It's not possible for that to be a legitimate conclusion of your article, or of your study. | ||
| That means that there are so many other variables that you have absolutely not taken into account. | ||
| Like, if you do a regression analysis of her study and then any other studies, you would find out that hers is an anomaly and she's full of shit. | ||
| Well, actually, there are a bunch of critics... | ||
| Or you would find out that they're lying about her. | ||
| Well, a bunch of people, you know, scientists got together and... | ||
| Critiqued her study, looked into it, and saw if there were any issues, because she refused to peer-review it. | ||
| Oh, well then fuck her! | ||
| She can go fucking fuck herself! | ||
| She just went around spouting the findings. | ||
| Irina Ermakova... | ||
| That's not how that works! | ||
| Ermakova, not Ermakova. | ||
| So there was an article in Natural Biotechnology where they tried to get to the bottom of a number of her claims. | ||
| Oh, I've read Natural Biotechnology. | ||
| It's at my dentist's office. | ||
| You know how... | ||
| You know how popular natural biotechnology is? | ||
| Very. | ||
| You can't avoid every time I go to Walgreens, I'm trying to buy cigarettes. | ||
| Natural biotechnology everywhere. | ||
| It is the most famous magazine I can think of. | ||
| There's no magazine more noticeable. | ||
| Frankly, it's fucking inescapable how popular natural biotechnics is. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| Anyways, continue. | ||
| Where are we going with? | ||
| You got more? | ||
| I just wanted to say that the thing I read most, more than any book, more than any news source, like, have you ever read Google News? | ||
| On every option. | ||
| Natural Biotechnology shows up. | ||
| There's always an article out! | ||
| Just gonna play some Candy Crush here. | ||
| Every single time! | ||
| I can't even... | ||
| Like, The Guardian references Natural Biotechnology, The Atlantic, Politico, BBC News, who knows? | ||
| Very exciting here. | ||
| Who's gonna reference Natural Biotechnology? | ||
| Are we done with this bit? | ||
| I think we're done with it. | ||
| I think I've gone as far as I can go. | ||
| So, they interviewed her about her findings in the study, and so they asked her, What was the level of mortality? | ||
| I read that interview. | ||
| I'm going to throw something at you. | ||
| They asked her, what was the level of mortality of the pups you found in the control and test groups? | ||
| Her answer, in the first three repeats of the experiments, up till five times higher mortality was observed in the newly born pups whose mothers had received the GM soy flour supplementation compared with pups from rats receiving GM soy protein isolate, traditional soy, and laboratory chow, which were the control groups. | ||
| Pups from rats that had been fed a GM soy diet died mostly during the three weeks following birth, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| She goes on to... | ||
| Give a couple examples, and there's also tables provided. | ||
| So, the critics, looking over this, they looked over all the tables, all the information, and here was the assessment. | ||
| Because this is groundbreaking stuff, if true. | ||
| Right, and here's the assessment that they came away with. | ||
| Quote, pup mortality is usually reported at day zero or day one and day 21. The timing and causes of deaths are not reported. | ||
| The data in tables 1 and 2, which she provided, show that 8.1% of pups died in the control group. | ||
| The typical mean pup survival observed for Wistar rats is greater than 99% plus or minus 2 at day 1 and 99.5% plus or minus 1 at day 21. The abnormally high incidence of pup mortality in the controls indicates poor animal stewardship, possibly arising from poor animal husbandry and or dietary deficiencies. | ||
| No valid scientific conclusions can be based on a study with such poor performance in the control group. | ||
| Table 1 also reports 10% mortality on conventional studies. | ||
| No conclusions should be drawn from a study in which the conventional soy control mortality is tenfold higher than normally observed for Wistar rats. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So that's the first problem. | ||
| So her, like, the first criticism of this study is, you killed rats who don't die. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or whatever the case is, whatever the conditions were, you had substantially higher death rates in the control group. | ||
| Yeah, in the control group. | ||
| Who gives a shit about... | ||
| So the baseline of your control group is unacceptable for science based on every other control group that... | ||
| If there's a thousand other control groups with 99% survival rates and you have 80... | ||
| You're the one who's wrong before we begin. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So then they asked her about the claims that she was making about the weight. | ||
| The GMO ones being lower weight. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then so she found that the weights of pups from mothers fed GM soy supplement were lower than those of pups from rats of the positive control group or from the conventional soy flour supplemented group. | ||
| We found that 33% of pups in the rats fed GM soy had smaller sizes and lower weights than the controls. | ||
| So the critics said, animal weights are normally recorded for individual animals in a litter and then averaged as mean for females and mean. | ||
| She does not separate the two. | ||
| Fucking stupid. | ||
| Despite the likelihood of males being approximately 2% to 3% larger than females at this age. | ||
| More importantly, under carefully controlled conditions, 14-day pup weight is approximately 38 grams plus or minus 3 grams. | ||
| Will vary by no more than plus or minus 10%. | ||
| The data in Table 3 are presented in an unconventional manner that makes it difficult to determine the exact mean and standard derivation among groups. | ||
| Table 3 states that 53% of control pups are below 30 grams, which is abnormally small for two-week-old Wistar rat pups. | ||
| More than 90% of rat pups fed conventional soy are more than 20% below normal weight. | ||
| GM soy, 79% below normal weight. | ||
| and GM soy protein isolate fed pups 78% below normal weight fared somewhat better. | ||
| The wide variance in data in Table 3 and the high percentage of low-weight animals are clear indicators of malnutrition and or poor environmental conditions. | ||
| No conclusion can be made about abnormal development unless the controls conform to internationally-aligned Do you know why there's no greater own than a science own? | ||
| Because it's... | ||
| Unequivocal. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, any time you see a spat in a scientific journal where so many people are like, okay, here's why you're wrong, it's always the most thorough... | ||
| It's specific. | ||
| ...examination line by line of why everything you did was wrong. | ||
| And there's no way around it. | ||
| To the point where if you even try and come back with it, you're just going to be like... | ||
| Yeah, well, I saw the sun that day. | ||
| Like, you've got nothing. | ||
| Well, they're basically just saying, like, okay, this is why your process was wrong, and so you should probably redo it, because you didn't follow the standards that would get rid of different variables that could be affecting the outcome. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So, in Japan, a bunch of people got together, and they did a study in 2007, which is the same year. | ||
| Oh, they kind of peer-reviewed it? | ||
| Yeah, and this is 2007, so Alex should know this, and Jeffrey Smith, his guest, should know this. | ||
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| This is in the scholarship at the time that he's going on Alex Jones' show and touting this as an example of groundbreaking studies. | ||
| He doesn't know about this. | ||
| They didn't. | ||
| Just do a short-term study like she did. | ||
| They did a 52-week study. | ||
| They did an entire year. | ||
| What? | ||
| They have that kind of time in Japan? | ||
| And they followed the guidelines of control groups and standardization. | ||
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| And I won't bore you with their entire findings, but I'll just read... | ||
| The line number one. | ||
| That dumb lady is dumb. | ||
| Gross necropsy findings, hematological and serum biochemical parameters, organ weights, and pathological findings showed no meaning. | ||
| meaningful difference between rats fed the GM and non-GM soybeans. | ||
| These results indicate that long-term intake of genetically modified soybeans at a rate of 30% in a diet has no apparent adverse effects in rats. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because, duh. | ||
| So his guest should fucking know that. | ||
| Yeah, but that's not... | ||
| Like, I'm not going to put it on his guest. | ||
| He's a propagandist. | ||
| He's a propagandist. | ||
| But, yes, I mean the non-use of that knowledge. | ||
| Because it's not like he's alone or unique in that. | ||
| You know, like, his guest is doing what those assholes do. | ||
| His guest is someone whose business it is to know about GMO issues. | ||
| His guest is coming on to discuss these GMO... | ||
| His guest is somebody whose business it is to lie about GMOs. | ||
| That's more the point. | ||
| But that's like any kind of... | ||
| You're running a game. | ||
| Look, you're a con man. | ||
| You're conning. | ||
| The difference is I'm responding to what I expect. | ||
| I expect standards. | ||
| You're expecting an idealistic viewpoint that will never come to pass, and these liars are always going to exist, and what we need to do is kill all the dumb people, eugenics forever. | ||
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What? | |
| That's not the argument I'm making. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Isn't that what... | ||
| No. | ||
| That's not what you were saying? | ||
| No, the argument that I'm making is that even dating back to 2008, it's very clear that the guests that he has on, with the exception of Dr. Dean Adele... | ||
| Who is my new father. | ||
| His guests are still propagandists. | ||
| There's still people who are coming on with an agenda that doesn't match reality. | ||
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| And that's interesting to me because one of the most important things, I think, with going back into the past... | ||
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I already told you. | |
| At this point, I don't care. | ||
| There's things I've told you. | ||
| Was it because of the natural biotechnics riff? | ||
| Was it that one? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Are you sure it wasn't? | ||
| Someone on the chat room just asked, are Dan and Jordan friends outside of the podcast? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| We'll see if we go get a drink after the show. | ||
| We spend 90% of our time together. | ||
| I'd hope we're friends at this point. | ||
| At this point in history, 2008, Alex Jones, as far as I can tell, isn't selling longevity even yet. | ||
| He hasn't gotten into the game that he plays now with... | ||
| How about the pants? | ||
| How about the random pants? | ||
| I didn't hear a Diamond Gusset commercial on this episode, but we'll see. | ||
| I will keep you posted. | ||
| Disappointing. | ||
| But he started selling some supplements, but he's not selling them. | ||
| He's advertising for them. | ||
| So it's still a third party thing. | ||
| They're not his. | ||
| I was actually about to say, what is he selling at this point in time that these con men would come on? | ||
| The ads are shockingly all for his documentaries. | ||
| He has ads for Loose Change, ads for Endgame, and stuff like that. | ||
| Most of the commercials are about his documentaries. | ||
| $25 for a postcard that'll get you out of jail. | ||
| Well, and just like, soap. | ||
| Self is good. | ||
| But the commercials that he plays, because these aren't episodes with the commercials cut out, most of them are kind of like, this is local radio commercials. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| We've seen his contract in present day, and we know the breakdown of time that he gets for stuff. | ||
| I think it's possible that back then he didn't have much. | ||
| And so a lot of these commercials that are on there are for GCN affiliates or something like that. | ||
| So Genesis Communications has a soap person who is an advertiser and is just like, fucking throw it on Alex. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because he's not getting massive ratings in 2008. | ||
| He's big, but he's not huge. | ||
| So anyway, the reason I brought up the supplement thing is he says something on this episode that is particularly weird considering what we know about the future. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Aloes, colon, and body cleanse. | ||
| They don't make any extraordinary claims. | ||
| It just cleans out your guts and is a detoxifier. | ||
| And it's very important. | ||
| It doesn't make you sprout wings and fly around or live forever. | ||
| I want to be clear. | ||
| I'm not like the other supplement pitchers, and I don't want to be associated with that. | ||
| Okay, this is just good stuff. | ||
| It's just good stuff. | ||
| It's just good stuff. | ||
| He does not want to be associated with his future self. | ||
| Yeah, I'm confused. | ||
| Well, I mean, he's like, we're not making any wild claims. | ||
| He sells DNA for us that he says will keep your DNA telomeres together in order to make you live longer now. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| But, I mean, that's just truth. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| That's just science. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| You've heard about the telomeres? | ||
| I have. | ||
| It is a real thing. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I'm specifically, because that's the ends of your DNA, that as you age, they continue to degrade. | ||
| Yeah, no, no, no. | ||
| I get what he's saying. | ||
| But, at the same time... | ||
| He's also right. | ||
| It's just ironic to me that Alex in 2008 is like, I don't want to be associated with those weird supplement sellers. | ||
| Oh, if you only knew, buddy. | ||
| So, at the end of the episode, Bob Chapman comes on and he's talking a bunch about the economy and how things are bad. | ||
| Now, we know from history that things did get pretty bad. | ||
| This is 2008. | ||
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| So, things got bad. | ||
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| Ah! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| In this case... | ||
| You know, it's standard operating procedure for Alex Jones and his guests to say, you know, house is on fire, shit's about to go down. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But in this case, they accidentally were right, just because they say it all the time. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But Bob Chapman is on, and I don't care about what he's saying, because it's, you know, it's difficult to parse out, like... | ||
| Where are we in 2008? | ||
| March. | ||
| We're in March? | ||
| Okay, so this is pretty much immediately after the massive stimulus package has gone through. | ||
| As I understand, yes. | ||
| But the issue is that I don't really care because something more important happens. | ||
| In the middle of this segment where they're talking about the economy being bad and all that... | ||
| The Berlin Wall fell down? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No. | ||
| Alex does this. | ||
| Is that the timeline? | ||
| Alex does this. | ||
| Okay, Steve, thank you for the call. | ||
| We're going to come back in the final segment with Bob Chapman, and we're going to take two or three quick final calls. | ||
| But now, I want to bring Ted Anderson up. | ||
| Okay, every economic expert we have on, and these are all top guys, head of the New York Business School, head of Shadow Stats, Nobel Prize winners, all of them, are saying metals, metals, metals. | ||
| Silver, gold, palladium, platinum. | ||
| I think you should be diversified. | ||
| If you've got more money than just for a few coins, get into some of the mining stocks. | ||
| I'm not going to advise them. | ||
| If you want more risk, like Bob was saying, maybe he'll give us some advice. | ||
| I know it's in the forecaster. | ||
| I just support the network that for 12 years... | ||
| Ted has been owned by a little gold company, Ted Anderson. | ||
| Little gold company. | ||
| He's been interviewing Bob, I know, for more than a decade. | ||
| And we're going to bring Ted up just for a minute or two. | ||
| Ted, real fast, you've got offers again that you set the price of this at gold at $1,000. | ||
| Gold has been going between $1,005 and $1,013 today. | ||
| They're trying to suppress it. | ||
| It's not working. | ||
| And I know I just got a little bit more silver, a little bit more gold from you. | ||
| You know, I don't have a lot of money, but I bought a little here, a little there at Bill Jobb. | ||
| Tell folks about the offer you've got today. | ||
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Of course, Alex. | |
| Right now we have the British Sovereign coin. | ||
| It's a real good coin. | ||
| It's a great coin. | ||
| So that's a disgraceful ad pivot, but like... | ||
| Yeah, that one is nowhere near as professional as the shit we say. | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| It's nowhere near as jarring. | ||
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I guess it's like a regular ad pivot. | |
| Because of what we know about Alex and his business model and how he behaves now, we know that what he does is he tries to create an emotional response in people through some narrative and then pivots to an ad as if, like, this is what will make you feel better. | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| And so having a whole segment with Bob Chapman talking about the economy and it being, you know, there's trouble. | ||
| And all that. | ||
| And then Ted Anderson swooping in while Alex is vouching for all this idea of like, everyone's saying metals, metals, metals. | ||
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| All that. | ||
| Surprise! | ||
| We have somebody who sells gold here. | ||
| Who would have guessed? | ||
| And also owns oil wells. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Doesn't talk about that much. | ||
| That might be important in the future. | ||
| Here's a bigger question. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Does Alex hoard gold? | ||
| Says he buys a little here, a little there. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, now I have to ask the question. | ||
| How much gold does Alex have? | ||
| If Alex doesn't get a discount, he's not buying from Midas Resources. | ||
| Because I've done a bunch of research into their markups and stuff like that. | ||
| People, they've constantly taken them to court. | ||
| There's a reason beyond... | ||
| What actually ended up getting Ted Anderson's bouillon license stripped. | ||
| He got taken to court a number of times because people were suing him for overpricing. | ||
| You go to the ripoff report, there's complaints filed there. | ||
| The Better Business Bureau has a bunch of complaints. | ||
| And the Better Business Bureau is a lie. | ||
| They're a scam. | ||
| I'm not joking. | ||
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It's a scam. | |
| It's the globalists. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| The BBB is actually a scam. | ||
| Look into it. | ||
| The BBB is a scam. | ||
| Well, I would also say that Midas Resources is a scam, and I would say look into it. | ||
| I agree with you on that front. | ||
| I am just saying that separate from the BBB, or separate from the GCN situation, the BBB is also a scam. | ||
| I'm working on a large piece about Midas Resources and what have you through some documents that I've found. | ||
| They got FOIA'd. | ||
| And there's some court documents that are pretty interesting about Ted Anderson's past and the business model of Midas Resources. | ||
| And we'll get into that. | ||
| Which is, hey, hey, hey, fuck bitches every day, right? | ||
| More or less. | ||
| Well, that's his operating procedure. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So we have one more clip here, and this is what ends up happening with Ted's appearance. | ||
| And there's a lot more people too, Bob, and we're talking about the same supply that's finite. | ||
| You're talking about walking Liberty halves, and they stopped making those in the 1940s. | ||
| Yeah, let's be clear. | ||
| The supply is already running out of a lot of this. | ||
| By running out, the price is exploding. | ||
| Getting these near a spot is running out. | ||
| He's got great deals on gold, silver, 800-686-2237. | ||
| I love doing this. | ||
| I love plugging something I believe in. | ||
| I love plugging something that's a good deal. | ||
| You hurt the New World Order, folks, when you move out of dollars. | ||
| The whole world's moving out. | ||
| They don't take dollars. | ||
| That's our boy right there. | ||
| They don't take them in Brazil. | ||
| They don't take them. | ||
| They're dumping it everywhere. | ||
| 800-686-2237. | ||
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They don't. | |
| 1-800-686-2237. | ||
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The brokers are there right now. | |
| They only take hunks of gold. | ||
| Get silver, get gold. | ||
| 800-686-2237. | ||
| Don't wait. | ||
| 1-800-686-2237. | ||
| It's only going up. | ||
| Thank you, Ted. | ||
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Yeah, thanks for having me up, Alex. | |
| Final segment with Bob Chapman, theinternationalforecaster.com. | ||
| Thanks for having me on, Alex, the guy who I own. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Thank you so much for bringing me on, contractually, like you have to do all the time. | ||
| So this kind of brings us full circle to the beginning of things, and that is... | ||
| Ten years ago and today, Alex Jones, in both iterations, is an incredibly desperate man. | ||
| He's a desperate man right now to provide cover and distraction for something. | ||
| Who knows exactly what? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Probably crimes. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Regarding the investigation with Mueller. | ||
| And you go back to 2018, or 2008, and he's not a star back then. | ||
| He's not big time. | ||
| He's probably, at this point, broadcasting out of a very small studio. | ||
| He's not the glamour puss that he is now. | ||
| Roger Stone isn't involved, so we don't even care. | ||
| He doesn't get the supplement stuff with Dr. Group going until 2013. | ||
| And so at this point... | ||
| All he is, all he's got... | ||
| Is a gold shill. | ||
| And he's desperate to appease Ted Anderson. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't know. | ||
| I would say he's probably more desperate now. | ||
| I think he's just... | ||
| You're saying he's desperate in both cases. | ||
| I'm not saying which one is more. | ||
| Yeah, I think he's more obsequious now. | ||
| As opposed to being an aggressive apologist. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| Like, okay. | ||
| Here's a question that you just raised up in my mind. | ||
| Raise up. | ||
| B. Pablo. | ||
| So he is... | ||
| We know he's desperately obfuscating and lying and distracting from the Mueller investigation. | ||
| But I think it's possible that it's not even that that's primarily motivating him. | ||
| I think that there's a decent chance to some extent that what he's distracting from is how unimportant he is compared to the internet. | ||
| I think that there's a part of it that is ego-driven, or at least the maniacalness of it. | ||
| Of course it's Alex. | ||
| We're going to get to ego-driven sooner or later. | ||
| He's distracting from the fact that he's not as important as QAnon or a Reddit board or 4chan or something like that. | ||
| That could be part of it. | ||
| Maybe it's not the whole thing, but I don't know. | ||
| I mean more in the general sense of like, Alex doesn't actually know anything, right? | ||
| Like, Alex can't have any kind of insider information on that, except from Roger Stone. | ||
| And as we know, Roger Stone isn't going to tell him the truth. | ||
| Why would he do that? | ||
| He's living his best life. | ||
| William Binney is one of his big sources, and he said that that was the memo. | ||
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Right. | |
| So the only reason that he is working so hard is just because he's in the Trump camp. | ||
| Like, that's really it, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think it's it, but I think it's a part of it. | ||
| I think there's a holistic thing going on. | ||
| And that's a part of it. | ||
| The Trump camp is a part of it. | ||
| The ego is a part of it. | ||
| I think that he recognizes on some subconscious level, whether he's willing to admit it or not, that most of his traffic spike that he experienced at the beginning of 2016 was due to bombs. | ||
| Bullshit, yeah. | ||
| And he's worried about what might be uncovered and the connections that he had that might be implied because of it. | ||
| And then I think there's probably even a fourth thing. | ||
| I think there's probably something that we don't even understand. | ||
| There's probably something that's hidden from sight a little bit. | ||
| And who knows what that thing is? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We can't speculate. | ||
| We're not Alex Jones. | ||
| I don't have fake sources. | ||
| But I know that it will come to bear eventually. | ||
| New plan. | ||
| We fly to Austin. | ||
| We stand outside of Alex Jones' studio. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Boombox over our heads. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Playing Highwayman. | ||
| I think that would lure him out. | ||
| I think it would. | ||
| I think it's possible. | ||
| I think it would do it. | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| And then we just have a good old-fashioned sing-along with him. | ||
| Like, let's not even fight war. | ||
| Let's fight peace. | ||
| Like, legitimately. | ||
| You and me are going to have a sing-along. | ||
| With Alex Jones to the highwayman. | ||
| And then we'll stab him. | ||
| If he and I were at a bar, let's say, like a rodeo, a honky-tonk bar, and we didn't get into politics or anything like that... | ||
| There's a decent chance we could get along. | ||
| Wouldn't you guys explode into each other the moment you touch matter and antimatter? | ||
| I wouldn't touch him. | ||
| If you guys ever got close and just touched fingers, it would be a 100% energy explosion, right? | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| First of all, again, I wouldn't touch him. | ||
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Second, what do you think he feels like when you touch him? | |
| I think he feels bad. | ||
| I want to walk my statement back a little bit. | ||
| I don't think we could get along now, but ten years ago... | ||
| Ten years ago? | ||
| You think you could chill? | ||
| I think as long as we avoid... | ||
| You know how sometimes when you're with family or in-laws or whatever and you've got to just not talk about certain things? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If we applied those same rules to race, politics, religion, society... | ||
| Everything you're interested in? | ||
| Everything but highwaymen? | ||
| We could probably have a pretty good time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'd be interested to find out. | ||
| Yeah, well, too bad we don't have a time machine. | ||
| But we do have a website that people can go to. | ||
| Glad that wasn't a spit take. | ||
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No wine spit takes on the show. | |
| People can go to our website, knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| You've just posted a massive thing about Breitbart, and I've posted a far less massive thing about how depressed the world is. | ||
| Equally important. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| And it's a very good website. | ||
| We both write for it. | ||
| There's a lot of content up there, a lot of important research. | ||
| You can also follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| On Facebook. | ||
| You can do it there. | ||
| We just got a lovely review from an Australian fan. | ||
| Kat, I believe. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| If you guys want to leave reviews, you can. | ||
| I think it probably helps. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I gotta assume. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Makes us feel better. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We like feeling good. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I just wrote a thing about how depressed the world is. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah, you can do that. | ||
| You can listen to us on iTunes. | ||
| You can leave a review there as well if you'd like. | ||
| True, true. | ||
| Also, if you're listening live and you're watching on Twitch, there's an after-party stream over on Far Out's channel, at Far Out Rhymes. | ||
| I believe Nicky Gifts and him are gonna be doing some shit. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| It'll be super fun. | ||
| But, hey. | ||
| In the meantime, Dan, I think it's your turn. | ||
| Like, who's getting you? | ||
| I mean, there's no doubt in my mind about this, 100%. | ||
| Trey Gowdy. | ||
| Fuck! | ||
| Trey Gowdy, go fucking fuck yourself. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |