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#122 LIVE: March 1-2, 2012

Knowledge Fight #122 (March 1-2, 2012) dissects Alex Jones’ baseless claims about Andrew Breitbart’s death—heart failure at 729g, cocaine use, and a fabricated "Obama video" theory tied to discredited source Larry Sinclair (a convicted fraudster with aliases). Jones also falsely ties Princess Diana’s death to a forged letter and mocks Eric Muller’s threats while peddling Young Jevity vitamins. The hosts expose Jones’ pattern of exploiting tragedies for attention, revealing his narratives as desperate, unverified spectacle. [Automatically generated summary]

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alex jones
infowars 12:51
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dan friesen
46:25
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jordan holmes
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dan friesen
This is one of the problems of clips.
Uh, this, uh, guys, I guess we're standing in front of this mic right now.
jordan holmes
I guess that's what we're doing.
unidentified
This is my guest, uh, why don't we, uh, sit around, drink Donaldson Douglas, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones!
jordan holmes
That's right!
Dan, is there a hook to this fucking show?
unidentified
There is, there is.
dan friesen
We need to get this, oh, there we go.
jordan holmes
Alright, alright, okay, alright.
dan friesen
Uh, the hook is that I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
And I don't know a goddamn thing about Alex Jones.
Hey, uh, who here is a policy wall?
A couple of lines.
Who here has no idea what this fucking show's gonna be?
dan friesen
They heard Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Come on.
You can clap if you don't know what's gonna happen.
Just that guy?
unidentified
Alright, alright.
dan friesen
I would posit that I don't know what's going to happen.
Generally, to give you guys a little bit of sense, in case you haven't watched any of our shows that we do on video, we record this podcast in my bedroom.
And I have a desk in there, and it's where I smoke cigarettes maniacally, and drink Monster Energy drinks, and research weird shit about right-wing propaganda.
Joanna is nice enough to come over every now and again, and I sit in front of my computer and play clips for him.
jordan holmes
It's exactly as weird as you think it is.
dan friesen
But tonight we're doing it a little bit differently here at the Playground Theater.
A big round of applause for David up in the loop!
unidentified
He will be playing clips for us as we go along.
dan friesen
It's going to be an interesting thing.
jordan holmes
He will be the source of many tech issues as opposed to the two of us, so it's good.
dan friesen
And we forgive it in advance and appreciate his help.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And also, I'm terrified right now.
jordan holmes
No, no, I'm going to let that sit.
I'm going to let that sit wide open.
unidentified
I'm worried about how you are going to take some of the information directly.
jordan holmes
Great, great, great, great.
It's a good thing I'm allowed to walk on this show and I don't have to wear headphones.
I can scream over there.
It's a fucking fart.
unidentified
If I walk to me and leave, you can just clip it out.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Just as long as we don't do any more Joe Arpaio shit I'll do.
jordan holmes
Bad news!
No!
unidentified
Joe Arpaio is in the mix.
dan friesen
But we're not going to be talking about it.
So today, Jordan, you have no idea what we're going to be covering.
jordan holmes
No fucking clue.
dan friesen
It's been incredibly difficult not to tell you.
For the last week since we found out that we're going to be doing this show live, I have been trying to find an episode.
That would work.
unidentified
That would be really fun, that we could all have a good time with.
dan friesen
I went back to every April 1st, every April Fool's Day, I listened to every Alex Jones birthday show.
jordan holmes
Maybe he broke on his birthday.
Right, right, right.
unidentified
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Or at least it's over.
Yeah, over.
unidentified
Or super esoteric.
jordan holmes
Every time he ages another year, he's like, man, I don't know if the universe is real.
dan friesen
He turned 40 a couple years ago, wow, this is going to be adaptive weirdness.
unidentified
He just had Dr. Group on and they were like, it was weird.
dan friesen
For those of you who don't know, Dr. Group is Alex Jones's kind of a tractor friend who he pretends is a doctor.
So Jordan, today what we're going to be going over is March 1st and 2nd of 2012.
jordan holmes
Say that for say.
Nope.
dan friesen
Do you know what happened March 1st of 2012?
jordan holmes
Of course I know.
dan friesen
Does anybody have any idea?
jordan holmes
Oh shit, we need to do fucking crowd work during the podcast, so that's good shit.
dan friesen
That's terrible.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's a good point, that's a good point.
unidentified
Yeah, 3-1-12, we could forget.
3-1-12!
jordan holmes
It's like 3-11, but one higher.
alex jones
No, nope, I'm out, I'm out.
dan friesen
I'm also out.
unidentified
Well, let's find out what happened on March 1st.
dan friesen
Here, play clip number one.
alex jones
It is in June.
Caesar's life that we gained the term, "Beware the Ides of March." And it was William Shakespeare who inculcated that into his famous play, "Joyous Caesar." "Beware the Ides of March." Andrew Reitbart is dead.
unidentified
Yes!
alex jones
Yes!
That he was going to die.
In February, just last month, that he would soon release footage of Obama in college.
Damning footage.
And expose him as a confirmed Marxist in college.
dan friesen
So, um, that's what happened.
jordan holmes
That's what happened.
Breitbart died.
dan friesen
Andrew Breitbart.
jordan holmes
This is the episode where Breitbart died.
dan friesen
What do you know about Andrew Breitbart and his passing?
jordan holmes
Well, he's a hero.
Sure.
unidentified
What?
Sure.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
In hindsight, kind of.
unidentified
I mean, he's a shithead, but...
jordan holmes
You're going to need to explain that a lot better.
dan friesen
Well...
I think he was always super anti-Trump, and if he hadn't have died, there's no chance that Breitbart would have been in favor of Trump running for president.
Like, there's a weird thing that happened after he died, that Breitbart became, like, a very different website than it was before.
It was terrible before, don't get me wrong.
unidentified
I'm not in favor of it, but it was not the same thing.
dan friesen
Um, that it was.
jordan holmes
I don't know anything about Breitbart.
I've never, I've never...
dan friesen
I'm curiously close to calling them a reasonable.
jordan holmes
Why would I go, why would I go to Breitbart?
unidentified
Um, so...
jordan holmes
Like pre- or post-Bannon.
I don't know.
It's from Steve Bannon that we get the phrase, "Be wary of the eyes of March." That's true, that's the fact.
dan friesen
So in that clip, you heard, Alex Jones is very clearly trying to put some of the blame.
For Breitbart's death on Barack Obama.
jordan holmes
Yes, Barack Obama.
dan friesen
That's definitely the implication that he's writing.
You really don't know anything about Breitbart's death?
unidentified
No.
Get this, I know everything about Breitbart's death.
jordan holmes
You could have just read the note that said, "Call Larry Nicholson." So, on February 29th, Andrew Breitbart went out for dinner.
dan friesen
February 29th, by the way, Leap Eater.
unidentified
Interesting.
dan friesen
Not that interesting.
jordan holmes
Not that interesting.
By the way, he said to everybody who's wondering, there's no hard end of this podcast.
This could go for three hours.
And you don't want to be here at one and a half?
Good on you.
dan friesen
So, on February 29th, David Breitbart went out for dinner, and he had some wine at a restaurant called The Breadwood, right?
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
He was hanging out there, he gets into some conversations with some people there, and about 11.30 or so in the evening, he decides to leave, and on his walk home, he falls over and dies on a sidewalk.
jordan holmes
Natural.
dan friesen
There was a witness, and the witness said that he was walking alone, and that there was nothing weird.
jordan holmes
About it.
dan friesen
Someone else called the paramedics.
jordan holmes
They came and they showed up.
So Seth Rich killed him.
dan friesen
Oh, totally.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
It's an Ouroboros.
Democrat murderers.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So the witness who saw him collapse said that his face was like really bright red.
Which has led a bunch of people to suspect it was arsenic poisoning.
unidentified
Okay.
Alright.
dan friesen
We'll get back to that one.
jordan holmes
We'll get back to that one.
unidentified
The results of the autopsy.
jordan holmes
It was palladium poisoning.
dan friesen
So the paramedics show up and they take him to Ronald Reagan Hospital.
unidentified
Ironic.
dan friesen
But it didn't help at all, and Andrew Whitehart was pronounced dead at 12:19 a.m. the next morning.
A lot of conspiracy theories have gone around about it, saying that it was murder.
Alex Jones' version is the dirt worst.
Because he involves ray guns and what have you.
jordan holmes
Ray guns!
dan friesen
I believe we'll get into it somehow.
jordan holmes
Breitbart is killed by ray guns!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's possible.
unidentified
Or he's killed because he's developing ray guns.
dan friesen
I'll just lay it out for you.
unidentified
Breitbart had a fucking heart attack.
dan friesen
He's fairly clear.
On March 1st of 2012, LA investigator Mario Sands, by phone, he interviewed Breitbart's wife.
She related that approximately one year earlier, Andrew Weibart was admitted to Ronald Reagan Hospital, where he had come into the ER, and he complained that he had shortness of breath, and he was diagnosed with congestive heart failure.
He was held for a few days, and then went home.
Two weeks prior, he was dead.
He had a terrible flu, and he complained to his wife that he was under a lot of stress.
So all of that kind of makes sense.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
All of that sort of fits the plan.
Also, I...
jordan holmes
I smelled toast.
dan friesen
George, what do you think about the idea of a heart that weighs 729 grams?
How does that reach you?
jordan holmes
Wasn't that a Will Smith movie?
unidentified
No, that was a few less grams.
jordan holmes
About 729 grams.
Hey, 21 grams is a normal heart, and then you multiply it like, wait, wait.
Yeah, that's 721 grams, right?
dan friesen
I'm not doing fucking congrats.
The average human heart weighs 250 to 350 grams.
jordan holmes
That's a big heart!
dan friesen
Andrew Breitbart's heart, when he died, weighs...
jordan holmes
He's the Grinch!
unidentified
He is the Grinch!
jordan holmes
He is the Grinch!
unidentified
His heart proved it 100% better.
dan friesen
Also, they found that he had 60% narrowing of a major coronary vessel and heart failure cells in his lungs.
jordan holmes
Wait, you can have heart failure cells?
Like cells that are just like...
Nah.
Let me be clear.
Fuck this heart.
dan friesen
Let me be clear.
jordan holmes
I'm not a doctor.
I'm not a doctor.
dan friesen
I read the autopsy and it said a heart failure cell in quotes.
jordan holmes
And I'm like, I don't know how to do it.
It's a quote?
It's a quote?
unidentified
But it's in the document.
jordan holmes
Heart case.
dan friesen
I also thought that the autopsy was a little petty.
unidentified
Because I have two quotes from it that I found to be a little bit.
dan friesen
The first was: He was a large and overweight male.
jordan holmes
Judgement.
Alright, don't match it.
dan friesen
The other one was, the testes are in the scrotum and are unremarkable.
jordan holmes
It looks like a penis-a-living spot.
Come on, man.
dan friesen
I've got to share my nuts for all this.
unidentified
What are you going to say?
jordan holmes
Great balls.
Great balls.
unidentified
They're worth the best.
dan friesen
I was texting with a doctor about that, but I thought they were shooting me, and he's like, "Well, it's worse if they are remarkable!" I'm like, "Fuck you!" No, I get that, O.T. I'm a friend!
jordan holmes
A doctor friend isn't fun.
dan friesen
So anyway, also, there's a full toxicology report, there's no signs of arsenic, there's nothing.
They did a full screen of his hair, his blood, everything.
jordan holmes
Hair?
unidentified
Unremarkable.
dan friesen
Hair, gray, and weird.
And that's me talking.
jordan holmes
Alright, alright, alright.
dan friesen
Also, his father-in-law, the comic actor and conservative activist Orson Bean.
I didn't know that.
That's weird, Mr. Bean.
No, not well.
jordan holmes
Technically, it's...
It's actually Orson Willis playing Mr. Bean.
Perfect.
dan friesen
The two of them narrowed together.
jordan holmes
With their cold, sad eyes.
unidentified
He reported after he died...
dan friesen
I thought I could drink when I came to Tulane.
I had some hard and fast rules to prevent becoming an alcoholic, such as don't drink during sunlight hours.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
By the end of my time at Twain, I was going to bed so early in the morning and waking up so early in the afternoon that this rule was almost impossible to break.
unidentified
To finish the quote, thank god I wasn't developing a drinking program.
And my bubbles are number of hearts.
Yeah, man.
It's a weird thing to put in his own autobiography.
dan friesen
In his autobiography, he also mentions growing into his fraternity brothers, Hollywood made an image of him as he got older.
The image was of a heartless, protein-fueled man of a thousand lovers.
Also, on the day of his death...
March 1st, 2012, Anthony Cumia got on his radio show and said, "I went out drinking with him, and oh boy, he just partied." He likes to stay awake.
That's all I'll say.
unidentified
Andrew Breitbart died of a heart attack and a shit ton of cocaine.
jordan holmes
Shit ton of cocaine.
dan friesen
Other friends insist that it's possible that he was taking a ton of Adderall, and that is possible.
It can precipitate our texts in the same way when you have an underlying condition.
jordan holmes
That's entirely possible.
dan friesen
One of Breitbart's friends had this to say.
He had hung out with him towards the end of his life.
He said, the last few times we hung out, he was running a million miles an hour.
His whole disposition had really changed.
He was charged up and angry and relentless.
He was missing his shoelaces.
And his hair was on ice.
unidentified
Where did his shoelaces go?
dan friesen
He spent the night lecturing me and going off on these endless tangents.
It was like he'd become another person.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he was like...
Where did my shoelaces go?
dan friesen
Look, my friend that I knew was never concerned about shoelaces.
This guy was totally every day.
So all this is to say that Andrew Bradford was a loser.
I'd like to partake in cocaine.
And had a heart attack that was really bad a year before he died.
And had a 60% narrowing of what the main arteries taste like.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And his heart was twice the size it should have been when it died.
unidentified
And all of these facts lead you to conclude it's arsenic.
It's gotta be something fishy.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Let's get to clip two.
alex jones
Rockmark was going after them, and he is, of course, dead now.
jordan holmes
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
And the media shames.
Well, the L.A. conscience is natural.
Natural causes, I want to tell you that.
He had a few heart issues, and he was walking along, and fell down, went to the hospital, and went down.
And we want to tell you, just a few hours into it, no autopsy, no nothing, he died.
Natural causes.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, that's fun.
unidentified
Why is this such a huge bug?
Well, they did the autopsy the day he came into the hospital all night.
jordan holmes
The autopsy hasn't happened.
They're going to want to tell you this.
Pause.
dan friesen
I mean, this is one of those things where people like Alex Jones know you've got to make hay while the sun shines.
He knows the autopsy's going to come out eventually.
And when it does come out, all his marriage is busted.
So he's got to play them hard as fast as he can.
And so in that clip there, he's saying that the media...
alex jones
THE MEDIA!
dan friesen
They rushed out and they said it was natural causes.
What do you think about that?
jordan holmes
It's probably natural causes.
dan friesen
I'd like to tell you what the LA chief coroner investigator Craig Harvey said.
jordan holmes
Unremarkable balls.
It was impressive.
unidentified
It was a weird open wire to a press conference.
It's so weird that so many people said that.
jordan holmes
It's crazy.
unidentified
I reached for comment.
dan friesen
Everyone just said, balls?
unidentified
Fine.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So, he explained that the determination of natural causes is "merely a non-forensic evaluation of a person's death, meaning that the body has nothing externally visible that would lead them to believe that the death was caused by blunt force trauma, a stab wound, or so on." That's what preliminary writing for natural causes is.
unidentified
Dying of natural causes means there's no holes in his body.
dan friesen
Now, I'm obsessive.
So I decided to find the L.A. Times article that Alex Jones was talking about.
Of course, of course.
And it turns out that the L.A. Times article, I will quote you from it, says, Andrew passed away unexpectedly for natural causes shortly after midnight this morning in Los Angeles.
BreakBart.com says.
unidentified
He says, don't ever think of BreakBart.com.
jordan holmes
And I was just like, no, no, no, no, fuck that.
I bet it's Jesus.
unidentified
I searched far and wide.
jordan holmes
And he...
dan friesen
Every single thing that says natural causes links back to Breitbart's announcement.
Breitbart.com is the beginning of the natural causes.
jordan holmes
Controlled opposition!
dan friesen
Now granted, this is one of the times, a few times, that Breitbart's got the story right.
But unfortunately, Alex Jones is playing in the LA Times for this.
I don't know.
How do you feel right now?
jordan holmes
Um, man, it's tough that we can't smoke in here.
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
That's sort of one of our go-tos.
jordan holmes
Okay, so if Breitbart.com says that he died of natural causes.
Which they did.
And then Alex is referencing the LA Times story that says Breitbart.com said that he died of natural causes.
What possible thing could Alex have to say?
dan friesen
Breitbart has been infiltrated.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Alright, alright.
Now you're teasing the breadboard as infiltrated.
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
Um, Jordan, would you like to go to the next clip?
jordan holmes
Infiltrated by who?
dan friesen
Would you like to go to the next clip, or would you like to hear a commercial?
jordan holmes
I would hear a commercial.
dan friesen
Alright, let's go to the first commercial.
unidentified
That's what it sounds like when a burglar kicks in the door of a dark house that looks like milkman is home.
dan friesen
Look, you're going to be the next target.
unidentified
Make it look like someone is home watching television with fake TV.
Fake TV is a small electron.
jordan holmes
What?
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Fake TV?
dan friesen
Fake TV!
jordan holmes
Fake TV?
What about just real TV?
Who knows?
dan friesen
Too much energy going into it.
jordan holmes
Plug another thing in!
dan friesen
I also...
jordan holmes
Do you know where you can light your guns?
Fake TVs.
Fake TVs?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Also, spoiler alert, I think my neighbor has a fake TV.
I did not know if that was a real thing until I was listening to this episode like...
jordan holmes
It's like mattresses.
Once you know you're looking for a mattress, you see them fucking everywhere.
unidentified
I'm always looking for fake TVs now.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex Jones is trying to talk about how everything is fake in the world.
I believe he's talking specifically about the seven salmon bombers in London.
But then something really fun happens.
And let's just enjoy it.
Let's go, clip three.
alex jones
Air Marshals, they can give you a real bomb, especially if you're a muscle.
Don't ever do that.
I know they've got muscle air marshals on it.
Put it on the plane, blow it up, and then just take you off the roster that you've ever done on the plane, and they'll just have some cutout with a fake muscle man and put it out on the news.
I mean, that's how they do it.
We know the 7 '7 guys.
Man, I got some cracker jacks out there.
unidentified
right now.
Oh, oh.
Oh.
alex jones
We got all that happening.
jordan holmes
Closed.
Closed.
alex jones
All of them got really insane.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
We got all these headlines.
jordan holmes
We got all these headlines.
You're so distracted by every ever jackie.
unidentified
Just grabbed it.
It's so funny, the video too is in there.
That's funny!
jordan holmes
He's like...
dan friesen
He grabs a bottle of water.
jordan holmes
There it is.
dan friesen
It's a nice day.
jordan holmes
We've got all these headlines going on.
dan friesen
Honestly, that's my favorite Alex Jones.
I thought it was Esoteric Alex Jones.
No, it's Primal Jack in the Road.
It's a very specific Alex Jones, but I love it.
unidentified
I love it.
jordan holmes
It's the first time we've heard of him, I believe.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip...
jordan holmes
Are you allowed to explain the research that you've done on Cracker Jacks?
dan friesen
Ladies and gentlemen, 17,325 people are killed every year by Cracker Jacks.
Holy shit.
alex jones
Is that true?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
I was just saying, the amount of research you do is that at this point, everybody here is like, yeah, you probably did a lot of work to figure that out.
dan friesen
I would say that I'm not in the business of doing unnecessary PSAs.
unidentified
Although, seriously, true.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex does one of the things that he does the best, and that is try and turn the story into something kind of about himself.
So let's hear clip number four.
alex jones
Okay, I didn't scratch the surface, but I'm going to get into the Andrew Reitbart situation on the other side.
And it's funny, I never thought to get him on the show, and we were lining him up the show about three weeks ago, and it was going to happen.
dan friesen
I guess it won't happen.
Mark Mark's Acorn videos with James O 'Keefe, all that nonsense, came out in like 2009.
It's been three years since then.
He's had every opportunity in the break, right?
unidentified
Hey, Frank, are we going away?
jordan holmes
They couldn't get the scheduling right.
unidentified
They couldn't get the scheduling right.
I just love the I guess.
jordan holmes
I guess we're not going to do it now.
We're going to have David Bowie on here.
David Jones!
David Jones!
That's right.
dan friesen
I heard David Bowie died.
jordan holmes
I hope my dad never does.
I hope my dad never does.
dan friesen
That's some nonsense, Rick.
A couple people don't understand.
Um, so in this next clip, Alex Jones gives his best evidence that he has that Andrew Breitbart was murdered.
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Okay.
It's...
I'm in!
What is it?
Okay.
unidentified
I don't want to hear this.
jordan holmes
I'll hear this.
dan friesen
Start clip number five.
unidentified
Let's go.
alex jones
I think the LA Times has got the latest info and it shits.
Dead of natural causes, but the case is ongoing, and they don't know why he died.
But maybe it was his heart.
Well, that isn't case closed.
Dead of natural causes, they don't know yet.
I know the law, the medical examiner, the coroner.
jordan holmes
I know the law!
alex jones
Has to at least come and sign off on that, and they've not signed off yet.
So, that suspicion's right there.
That out of the gates...
Pull a surprise where, coming out with a new book, exposing government drug dealing, Gary Webb shoots himself twice in the head, and within hours of it coming out, it's open and shut.
The police say he committed suicide.
Open and shut with a D.C. madam, who said she was being followed and being threatened.
I called and talked to the condo manager, where she'd lived for over a decade, and said that's not her handwriting on the image.
And it wasn't.
It wasn't even close.
I mean, why?
If I'm found hanging in a shed, folks, and the handwriting doesn't even look like me...
jordan holmes
It's a heart attack.
alex jones
...doesn't even look like my handwriting, for heaven's sakes, I want multiple autopsies.
I...
There's not a big history of hearts having my family.
Very long-lived.
Very long-lived.
The women are dealing with 103, 105.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Of course.
Get it straight.
alex jones
Nothing's happening to me, okay?
jordan holmes
Nothing!
alex jones
I want an investigation.
dan friesen
Okay.
Okay.
jordan holmes
I want a coroner to pronounce me dead.
Take me apart.
Sew me back up together.
unidentified
I want another coroner to do it again.
jordan holmes
I want multiple autopsies.
unidentified
I just want a fucking parade of autopsies.
I want people to do so many autopsies that by the end of it, it means nothing.
jordan holmes
I want to have an open casket in the room and let everybody walking by does an autopsy on me as they go around.
dan friesen
This clip is the first time that Alex Jones is really indicating that I think he's sad that he didn't get killed.
unidentified
I really think that, like...
dan friesen
I mean, Breitbart died of a heart attack because he was a heart boozer.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He took cocaine and, you know...
jordan holmes
Because he did all the stuff.
He did all the stuff for a heart attack.
dan friesen
But in Alex's mind, he was killed for being too right.
And Alex is super jealous about that.
He is like, "I wish someone would fucking try and kill me." And that's going to keep going throughout this episode.
unidentified
But, Jordan, I want to talk to you about Gary Webb and the B.C. Madam.
dan friesen
What do you know about these fellas?
unidentified
I remember the B.C. Madam.
jordan holmes
She had a book.
dan friesen
Alright, let's start with her.
jordan holmes
The book was a big deal.
dan friesen
She did?
No, she didn't have a book.
jordan holmes
I thought she had a book.
She had a bunch of...
Was that House of Cards?
What?
I don't know.
dan friesen
What are you saying?
jordan holmes
You're blowing fiction?
unidentified
I've been listening to too much Alex Jones with you.
dan friesen
So this is about Debra Jean Pupfrey.
You're aware of this lady?
unidentified
Uh, no.
dan friesen
She was a high-powered madam in D.C. And, uh, allegedly she had on her phone number list, uh, from all the people that she had sent.
jordan holmes
That's like a book.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's kind of like a book.
jordan holmes
It's kind of like a book.
unidentified
Um, she had a bunch of, like, really powerful people in there.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
And powerful people would kill her to shut her up and what have you.
jordan holmes
Did they?
dan friesen
Uh, no.
She hung herself.
It was deemed a suicide.
It was pretty close after she was convicted of racketeering, using the mail for illegal purposes, and money laundering.
jordan holmes
Using the mail for illegal purposes.
dan friesen
Like the postal service.
unidentified
Yeah, she sent a lot of letters.
jordan holmes
She was a spare.
unidentified
Let's do it.
jordan holmes
She was a junk bag.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
She used the band for the postal service.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Alright, I gotcha, I gotcha.
I thought Art could also just be a generalized "the male." Like in Alex Jones' world, that's just "the male." My friend, she committed a male fraud and money laundering.
dan friesen
They didn't even get her on the pinball.
Do you mean she didn't even press that charge?
jordan holmes
Do you mean she pretended to be a man?
Is that right?
unidentified
She's male fraud!
dan friesen
So she was facing five to six years as a sentence, realistically, but the maximum sentence she could have gotten was much higher.
jordan holmes
She's only going to do a nickel?
dan friesen
She was arrested previously in 1990 for pimping, pandering, and extortion, and instead of going to prison...
jordan holmes
That's a great thing to be right, because it has a ring to it!
Like, when you're getting a ring, they're going to be like...
unidentified
Alright, we got pimping, pandering, extortion.
jordan holmes
Like, that sounds good.
I like it.
That's what I want to be brought up on.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
I was trying to figure out a way to make a rap lyric where I rap abortion with extortion.
jordan holmes
That was going to be rough.
dan friesen
I was saying, I'm against abortion.
This girl got pinned for extortion.
jordan holmes
No, that's not going to go well.
I should not have done that.
No, no, you should have stepped with pimping.
dan friesen
So, instead of going to prison, she fled to Montana and tried to get to Canada.
But unfortunately, there's a board there.
And she was arrested and ended up spending 18 months in prison.
Okay.
Later, in 2007 or so, she gets caught up in this...
jordan holmes
What was the larger sentence?
Was it for the pimping, the pandering, or the extortion?
dan friesen
God will imagine extortion is the more important one.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I feel like pandering is a really bad crime.
dan friesen
If that's the case, the entire Chicago comedy scene was about to go back.
unidentified
Yes!
jordan holmes
Yay!
unidentified
We're all doing six months!
jordan holmes
Yes!
unidentified
Myself included, because I said that.
dan friesen
So, around 2007 or so, she had caught up in another case.
She caught up in another case!
And in the middle of it, one of her employees, a lady by the name of Brandy Britton, hung herself.
She hung herself in 2007, in the middle of this investigation into their operation.
In response, Deborah Palfrey, the DC madam, said, Quote, I guess I'm made of something that Brandy Britton wasn't made of.
Which is a shitty quote.
jordan holmes
Ironic, especially considering that later she hangs herself.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
When she made this quote, when she said this, it was before she was convicted.
unidentified
That was April 15th.
jordan holmes
It was before she hung herself.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, there's an article in Time Magazine from May 1st, 2008 about her, and it says, quote, She wasn't going to jail.
She told me that very clearly.
She told me she would commit suicide, author Dan Moldea told Time, soon after news broke of her body being found in Tartan Springs, Florida.
Palfrey contacted Moldea last year to provide her help writing a book.
Quote, she had done Time once before for prostitution, Moldea recalls, and it damn near killed her.
She said there was enormous stress that made her sick.
She couldn't take it, and she was not going to let that happen to her again.
The last time he saw Paul Freed in person was less than a week before her conviction for prostitution charges on April 15th.
A friend I met with Jean, and we had sushi near the courtroom, he said.
She was upbeat and hopeful.
She felt the prosecution had not made the case, and she was going to walk.
She was hopeful to the end.
But when the jury came in with her conviction, she reportedly was taken aback.
When I heard that, I knew.
For her, it was over.
There was no question in my mind that she took her own life.
So, Alex Jones had her on, um, a couple times, during the trial.
And he kept asking her, like, badgering her.
jordan holmes
Wait, the DC man went on InfoWars?
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
I did not know that.
dan friesen
And he kept badgering her, like, are you gonna kill yourself?
unidentified
No way.
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Which he does to people a lot.
jordan holmes
It's kind of like, what?
dan friesen
It's rude, for sure.
jordan holmes
Andy in Kansas, are you gonna kill yourself?
dan friesen
I love you, don't kill yourself.
unidentified
What are you?
Do it on there.
Do it on there.
jordan holmes
It's a great radio.
dan friesen
You are going to kill yourself.
unidentified
It's like a big deal out of it.
dan friesen
He always represents the quote that she said on the show, and so does everyone else.
Every conspiracy theorist who talks about this quotes the appearance that she had on Alex Jones' show, and they say, I will never kill myself.
And that's not what she said.
He kept asking her, and she kept saying, I'm not planning on killing myself.
Which is very different, because that was before she got charged with possibly 55 years in prison.
jordan holmes
That's a long time in prison.
And I'm all for pandering?
dan friesen
No, this is...
jordan holmes
Oh, this is a different thing.
dan friesen
This is straight up prostitution and money blogger in June.
So, G, straight up on herself.
That stuff is a lot of nonsense.
unidentified
So how it's using that as an example is crazy.
dan friesen
And then we've got Gary Webb.
jordan holmes
Who's Gary Webb?
unidentified
You remember Gary Webb?
jordan holmes
Does anyone know Gary Webb?
dan friesen
Personally.
jordan holmes
That's awesome!
dan friesen
Gary Webb was the guy who wrote the book Dark Alliance.
unidentified
He was the guy who came out with stories of...
jordan holmes
Sounds like a great fantasy novel.
unidentified
Oh, I'm sure.
jordan holmes
I bet that's amazing.
dan friesen
So it's a book about trolls that work with the controversy in Nicaragua.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right.
Soft rice.
Soft rice.
dan friesen
Dark elves.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Time turns into a fantasy mouse.
unidentified
Yeah, we don't need control.
dan friesen
He wrote a book about how the CIA was working with the Contras in Nicaragua to create the crack in cocaine epidemics that happened in LA.
And he was found dead with two gunshots in the head and that it was deemed a suicide.
jordan holmes
What do you think about that?
How do you kill yourself with two gunshots?
dan friesen
Let me be clear, before you ask that question, I'd like to give you a chance to retract it.
Because it's a stupid question.
unidentified
I feel like you've made me feel very emasculated.
You feel like my balls are very unremarkable right now.
dan friesen
Contrary to popular belief, suicide by multiple gunshot wounds is pretty dominant.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
That happens in like 3 to 5% of the people who shoot.
jordan holmes
That's not very common.
unidentified
But I mean, that's more common than you would expect.
jordan holmes
So wait, is it like rigor mortis where you die, but you also squeeze the trigger still?
unidentified
Or is it like, fuck, oh goddammit, I'm sorry.
jordan holmes
Okay, there we go.
dan friesen
It turns out if you don't pierce the cerebrum, then you'd probably still have motor function for a while to be able to do something else.
Which I would assume your first thing to do would do it again.
jordan holmes
Make a sandwich.
dan friesen
Let's try this again.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
For anybody who's at all confused about the idea of surviving a headshot, just think about Abraham Lincoln.
unidentified
He got shot point blank in the head and didn't die until like nine hours later.
Yeah, but that was when guns were like...
jordan holmes
Like, you would shoot a gun, and it was like, you spent an hour trying to load it, and you were an actor.
So you don't, like, you've only ever shot, like, a pretend gun.
So you pointed at his head, and he's Abraham Lincoln.
His head is eight feet long.
So when you're trying to shoot this eight-foot-long-headed man at his fucking top hat, you don't even remember his head begins or ends.
dan friesen
Jordan, you have a lot of song here.
unidentified
Am I?
jordan holmes
It's good jokes.
Am I having fun?
unidentified
*laughs*
dan friesen
History reflects the shaman Lincoln's head as being pretty good.
unidentified
Laughter Like, you made a way through points.
jordan holmes
So you're saying the autopsy ran?
Pretty good headshot.
Not a bad one.
Not a bad one.
dan friesen
The testes are remarkable.
Too tall.
jordan holmes
Too tall.
dan friesen
So, Gary Webb did write this book, a series of articles in the paper about the CIA running cocaine and crack and trying to create this thing where you destroy Los Angeles or whatever.
Of course.
It's a real Mark Richard shit.
That happened eight years before he committed suicide.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, the idea of it being retribution is a little cold.
You know, the idea that, like, eight years, and then mysteriously shoot him twice in the head?
It seems like literally the worst plan.
jordan holmes
He committed the perfect murder?
dan friesen
Possibly.
jordan holmes
It took a long time to plan, but he nailed it.
dan friesen
Also, his ex-wife Sue Webb discounted theories of his murder on Tuesday.
jordan holmes
Well, of course she did.
She was the one who did.
dan friesen
She said that the 49-year-old Webb had been distraught for some time over his inability to get a job in another major newspaper.
Because he hadn't come out with scoops in a while.
He was notoriously very difficult to work with.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The way he was acting, it would be hard for me to believe it was anything but suicide, Bell says his wife.
She said that before he died, Webb wrote and mailed notes to family members and placed his baby shoes in his mother's shed.
You're very sweet.
I don't have baby shoes.
Very subtle.
unidentified
If I committed suicide, my mom would have no shoes in the shed.
I'm not sure she has a shed.
dan friesen
Or shoes.
unidentified
She has a shed.
jordan holmes
Hold on.
unidentified
I can report confidently my mom has a shed.
jordan holmes
The shortest, saddest story in history is an advertisement that says, baby shoes, shed, James Webb killed himself.
Right?
That's the one, right?
dan friesen
So it gets more damning in terms of the idea that he was murdered.
Webb had paid for his own cremation earlier in the year.
jordan holmes
And then Webb...
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you just want to make sure that you're prepared.
jordan holmes
Some people buy life insurance, some people buy free.
alex jones
Burn me!
jordan holmes
Burn me, burn me!
dan friesen
So also, he had named his wife Belle.
Months ago, before he had died, just a year and a month, he made her be sold by the fishery of his money.
unidentified
Like, that's just buying an Amazon gift card, paying for your own cremation and things.
jordan holmes
Like, you just, yeah, yeah, yeah, you just want to make sure that you're prepared whenever you need it.
You can give it to anybody.
dan friesen
He, uh, he sold his house last week because he could no longer afford the mortgage and he was upset that his motorcycle had been sold.
unidentified
He spent all that money on that cremation!
jordan holmes
That's just bad planning!
dan friesen
That is a time-old.
He also had apparently laid out his driver's license in front of him before taking his father's.38 caliber pistol, which he kept in his nightstand to shoot him in the head.
Coroner Robert Lyons said his office had been swamped with coals.
It's unusual in a suicide case to have two shots, he said.
But it's been done and passed, and it's in fact a distinct possibility.
And again, let's remember Abraham Lincoln for a while.
Yes, let's remember.
jordan holmes
On this President's Day, let's remember what?
dan friesen
If you want to get into the scholastic journalistic career of Gary Webb, he's been sued.
So many times.
No, misreporting of stuff.
The Cleveland plane dealer that he worked with at the time, the paper had to settle two lawsuits.
One of them had released a $13.6 million libel award to a sports reporter who, Mr. Webb wrote, paid himself money from an auto race.
He just had stories that weren't really, didn't really get to the bottom of stuff.
He just got an idea and kind of ran with it.
He got sued a lot.
And his editor had this to say, The zeal that helped Matt Gary, a relentless reporter, was coupled with an inability to question himself, to entertain the notion that he might have erred.
His other editor, his first editor, Scott Herbold, said this, Gary Webb was a journalist of outsized talent.
Few reporters I've known could match his nose for an investigative story.
When he was engaged...
unidentified
Now, admittedly, you made them all up.
jordan holmes
Some of them.
dan friesen
When he was engaged, he worked hard.
He wrote well.
But Webb had one huge blindside.
unidentified
He was fundamentally a man of passion, not of fairness.
dan friesen
When facts didn't fit his theory, he tended to shove them to the sidelines.
And this comes down to, like...
He was right.
Big picture about the CIA and the drug writing and stuff like that.
But his reporting was so terrible that it invalidates everything he wrote.
All the stuff that we've learned about the CIA and the contras and stuff like that, all of that came out after, and it's probably thanks to him existing, but it's not based on the articles he wrote.
Because they have been thoroughly discredited.
unidentified
That's interesting.
dan friesen
And for that reason, there's no reason anyone would need to murder him eight years after he's published all of this stuff.
unidentified
It makes no sense.
dan friesen
So, Alex Jones' conception of Andrew Breitbart's murder is like, "Hey, they did it to the DC Mountain, they did it to Gary Webb!" Clearly, both of these are suicides.
They're just real weird.
jordan holmes
You know...
dan friesen
And they're being lied about.
jordan holmes
Dan, I wanna believe.
dan friesen
Who are you, Fox Mulder?
jordan holmes
Okay, so let's entertain this possibility.
Gary Webb.
dan friesen
Are you going to be the Cracker Jack in my throat?
jordan holmes
I'm just saying.
Gary Webb.
Shot two times in the head.
I assume, tempo-wise?
dan friesen
Yeah, it was.
jordan holmes
Like, do we know?
dan friesen
Yeah, it was in the head.
unidentified
To quote Captain Jack, bang, bang!
jordan holmes
Alright, so, he shot two times in the head.
Obviously, this is murder.
Yeah, the DC Madden.
Is this around the same time?
Like, what timeline are we talking about here?
dan friesen
The DC Madden was in, like, 2007.
No, what was that?
Yeah, it was, like, 2007.
So it was about a year before Alex Jones' live right now.
jordan holmes
Okay, all right.
Wait, I thought we were in 2012.
dan friesen
There you go, yeah, you're right.
2008 was when Andrew Breitbart did something of importance.
jordan holmes
Right, and the DC Mavoc killers.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So we're a couple years after that.
Holy shit, why are you trying to establish a timeline?
jordan holmes
I'm just saying that if we're going to work this out, my first thought is Alex Jones is serial killing all of these people.
He's going from one to the next to make his narrative square.
Gary Webb, two shots from the net.
What do we know about- He does review himself a lot.
Exactly.
dan friesen
So let's move on.
Let's get through some of this.
The next clip.
Guys, Alex Jones is going to quote someone that I've met in my life.
I don't remember if you have or not, but he's a dickhole.
Here's clip six.
alex jones
I get death threats all the time.
You know, man cow.
Eric Muller said me.
You're next, buddy.
Yeah, well, that's not funny, man-cow.
He's pretty freaked out.
So he was a great guy.
So we were just calling him.
It looked like it was going to happen.
And now, he's dead.
jordan holmes
Man-cow's dead?
Oh, okay.
unidentified
I want to get that's-not-funny-man-cow tattooed on my arm.
jordan holmes
I don't believe he's unused to hear it.
dan friesen
So Mancow, here it goes.
jordan holmes
What do you mean you couldn't get on Mancow?
We could both get on Mancow tomorrow.
unidentified
I don't know about tomorrow.
dan friesen
It'd be funny.
jordan holmes
He and I could not get on.
That's true.
dan friesen
I think he would not let me back on.
jordan holmes
He's a pile of shit.
dan friesen
Oh boy, is he.
Is he still in Chicago?
unidentified
Oh yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's still in Chicago.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's next to him.
dan friesen
He's an opera cast member at the same place I don't think I'm in.
jordan holmes
Okay, see ya.
Let's get into it!
I hope he fucking kills himself, I don't care.
How long is DC Madden's himself?
dan friesen
Wait, everyone's got a drink, George just wished death on someone.
So in this next clip, I have a bunch of research.
That I'm going to just entirely ignore because I've been talking way too much.
jordan holmes
I like that this situation keeps me from putting the mic down.
I just have to leave.
alex jones
Jordan, walk it off!
unidentified
Alright, so let's get into this next clip.
dan friesen
Number seven.
alex jones
That's like Princess Diana.
Her diary and a video that was confiscated by Scotland Yard.
This is all in the mainstream history years ago.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Here's everything.
alex jones
It all came out.
Told her, "Butler, everybody." Her butler's the one that blew the whistle.
Her assistant knows what the butler is.
She told him she shot a video with a professional line and everything saying, "Prince Charles told me, 'If I marry this guy, I will die in a safe auto accident.' 'Cause Charles obviously talked to his hotel people.
jordan holmes
That's how they like it.
That's the only specific thing to say!
alex jones
Drug you, put you in a vehicle, smash a truck into it, and then that happens until you're killing away the hospital.
Control the car, wait until you're going fast, steer you into a tylon.
That's gone off for decades.
That's actually declassified.
unidentified
Too tough.
alex jones
They throw a truck into him.
This has all been leaked as well.
jordan holmes
It's called overkill.
alex jones
A big bolt to break his neck.
He didn't break his neck because he's as strong as a horse.
jordan holmes
And they pointed him.
alex jones
Well, that's what they do.
They slam a truck into you.
jordan holmes
This is what they do.
alex jones
I'm not aggressive.
unidentified
You are.
alex jones
I'm wearing my seatbelt.
I'm not here, but my car is in a cell cell.
Okay, I've been killed.
jordan holmes
I've been killed.
alex jones
A lot of the ambulance takes an hour to get there.
I'm going to get around and see fighting my witnesses.
They went and killed her in the back of that car.
They drove around waiting for 45 minutes.
It was a hospital three minutes away.
jordan holmes
And the brothers were walking.
alex jones
And all the cameras turned out five minutes before the rest.
A video, a letter, a diary and eyewitnesses.
Do you understand?
The royals are extremely underage.
dan friesen
So are you, Alex.
jordan holmes
So extremely underage.
So extremely underage.
dan friesen
And that's kind of a syndrome on the face now.
jordan holmes
So...
So if I understand the plan correctly, they're going to throw a truck into you to kill you.
But if that doesn't kill you, they're going to kill you in the ambulance along the way.
dan friesen
Just in case.
unidentified
Like, couldn't you cut off the middleman?
dan friesen
Anyway, there's this thing called Operation Paget that happened that was in the UK.
They were like, hey, there's a lot of conspiracy theories about the princess that had his death.
unidentified
Let's fucking look into all of them.
jordan holmes
That's a fun thing.
I want that gig.
I want that gig so bad.
dan friesen
Let me see if I have all the stats here yet.
unidentified
They compiled an 832-page record.
dan friesen
It took 14 cops three cues to complete.
It cost $7.27 million.
unidentified
And it dispelled all of the rumors about his stuff.
jordan holmes
All of them were bonus.
dan friesen
Every single thing he said was bullshit.
jordan holmes
Every single...
dan friesen
And I texted you the other day, and you were very confused why I texted you.
Hey, Jordan, I'm getting really into princesses.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was the weird thing to text me.
That was the weird thing to text me.
unidentified
I respect princesses.
jordan holmes
Why?
I still don't think that clip gives you a respect for her.
unidentified
I watched a bunch of documentaries about her, and I read her words, and, like, she was amazing!
dan friesen
She was amazing!
jordan holmes
I don't disagree with you!
unidentified
I lived my whole life just thinking she was like, eh, she didn't want to be there.
It's tragic.
jordan holmes
So you have a pre-Diana and post-Diana life now, is what you're saying?
dan friesen
Yeah, I could live much more true to myself in the post-Diana world.
jordan holmes
It's insane.
She was a prisoner in that hospital.
That's why you're going to be killed in a fucking ambulance on the way to the hospital.
You're going to survive that.
dan friesen
Just to give you a little bit of context of what he was talking about, because I did, like, maybe a day's worth of research on Princess Diana.
unidentified
Which might have been a waste of my time.
jordan holmes
But, he's completed.
There's no more Dan sentence to say that I did a day's worth of research on Princess Diana.
dan friesen
Don't get twisted.
unidentified
That's the only clip that Richard served.
Because I kept being like, goddammit, she's fascinating.
dan friesen
Why didn't everyone tell me about her?
jordan holmes
Everyone told me about her.
unidentified
I just didn't look into it.
dan friesen
So what Alex is doing is he's conflating two different things.
There was a speech coach that she had who was trying to teach her how to give public speeches and what have you.
And he videotaped her through the speech lessons, and she got fucking wrong.
Because she was trying to warm up for giving a scripted speech.
And she started talking about how, like, Prince Charles wouldn't fuck me but once every three weeks.
jordan holmes
That's wrong!
She was wearing a leather suit at the same time?
She was wrong.
dan friesen
It is one of the most iconic stand-up specials.
jordan holmes
You know what?
unidentified
You go back and view it?
jordan holmes
Very humble-fulbent.
You can't really hear how humble-fulbent is.
unidentified
The signs are different!
jordan holmes
This is from Richard Pryor.
unidentified
So she talks about how much she hates Camilla and them two.
dan friesen
It's really very vulnerable and really interesting.
There's a 2004 documentary called Princess Diana: The Secret Tapes.
You can find it.
You can watch it.
It's really amazing.
And Scotland Yard and the king and queen, they were like, "No!
unidentified
Don't put this out!" And most of it is because it's fucking embarrassing as shit.
It's really embarrassing.
Right.
dan friesen
That, like, the whole time I was married to him, I didn't love him.
He was fucking this old broad.
It was just like, it's nuts.
unidentified
And she talks about how she, like, pushed her stepmom down a staircase when she was young.
That's what?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alright.
unidentified
Not the queen.
dan friesen
The other stepmom.
unidentified
I get that.
I get that.
jordan holmes
The little queen can be your stepmom and her mother-in-law.
dan friesen
Oh yeah, that's your point.
unidentified
*laughter* Look, I don't come from a broken hole, I'm not broken.
*laughter*
jordan holmes
You're not like the rest of us, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, so what Alex is conflating that with is that after death of her father, Paul Burrell, gave a letter that she allegedly wrote, saying, quote, This particular space in my life is the most dangerous.
My husband is planning an accident in my car, a breakthrough with failure and serious head injury, in order to make a path clear for him to marry Dickie Lindberg.
jordan holmes
What?!
I fucking love Ray.
Say that name, say that name 300 times in a row.
dan friesen
Why don't we text me Potter Beard Ray?
jordan holmes
T.B. Legboard.
Wait, say it one more thousand times.
T.B. Legboard.
dan friesen
Uh, Camilla...
Camilla is nothing but a decoy, so we're all being used by the name in every sense of the word.
unidentified
And this is a letter that she had allegedly given to her potlard.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That he didn't see fit to bring out to public until after she died.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Tiki Lickbork, uh, was the first show.
They never stopped being fired.
unidentified
So she was the nurse of the police.
Yeah.
dan friesen
She took care of the police.
jordan holmes
She was the wet nurse.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the, uh...
jordan holmes
And the regular, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The caretaker.
And they never...
Now we're fucked.
unidentified
And now, in 2018, he didn't marry Tiki Bakeworth.
jordan holmes
Did you know how she deal with?
Tiki?
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
She's married.
unidentified
She's married.
I know that much.
jordan holmes
I know that she's married.
unidentified
So Paul Burrell cannot bless her.
dan friesen
However, in court, he was rebuked by Lord Justice Scott Baker.
Because Paul had copied these letters.
There's no way to authenticate them at all, since they're admittedly not in Diana's hand.
Right.
Also, Paul used the letters and the sensationalism around them to sell a book.
jordan holmes
What a guess.
dan friesen
Also, in 2004, he was on I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of You.
jordan holmes
Wait, he's a celebrity because...
He was around Princess Diana.
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
In 2005, he was on Australia and Princess, which is a reality show.
jordan holmes
I just love this dude's career.
I'm not gonna lie.
Look, he's lying about everything, but I am a huge fan of his.
dan friesen
You're gonna love this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
In 2006, he was on a show called Stars and They Rise, which is a show where celebrities do karaoke as other stars.
jordan holmes
And in 2019, we're going to be the star of Ventriloquists, are they?
dan friesen
Eight stars in their eyes.
He played Richard Gere in Chicago singing Razzle Pass.
He has also appeared on three other reality shows.
Also, the reality of Princess Daniel's death is incredibly tragic.
If you read Operation Paget, you can find all the truth on it.
Henry Paul was the driver of the car.
He was drunk.
He had a.17 blood alcohol content, and he was driving twice the legal limit.
All the ideas about Princess Diana being pregnant are completely removed.
They found blood in the car, and they tested it for pregnancy hormones, and you would absolutely be able to tell if she was pregnant.
She's not.
And this guy is Paul Burrell, who is also an asshole.
Um, and probably not to be trusted.
But even he said that, like, she's not gonna marry Dodi Alvier.
She's gonna marry someone else.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There was another guy.
jordan holmes
Explain to me why the driver had a 1.7 blood on a level.
dan friesen
Because he was drinking cocktails at the bar.
jordan holmes
But why would they let him drive?
I don't know.
Queen!
There's the Queen!
There's the Queen!
I saw the Netflix show The Crown!
alex jones
It's the Queen!
jordan holmes
It's France!
It's France!
dan friesen
They let you drive drunk there!
Anyway, let's get to this next clip, Princess Diablo's Not Murdered.
In this next clip, we get back to the theme we were discussing earlier, that is Alex Jones is pissed that he's not the one who died.
jordan holmes
Clip 8!
alex jones
Oh, it's time to grow up in America.
And I know what I'm facing.
I know what I'm facing.
They don't come to be offering national TV shows anymore.
I don't get offers anymore.
They know.
jordan holmes
I'm real.
alex jones
I want to build my own system thanks to your support.
Don't cry for me if they kill me.
Realize they killed me because it was a life worth leading and I didn't cry for human dignity.
unidentified
And dedication.
Every day is a nightmare.
alex jones
They're their own worst enemies.
They're going to destroy us.
If someone doesn't start saying the other one.
jordan holmes
They're going to destroy us.
alex jones
They have humorous things Napoleon and Caesar had.
They're crazy.
Crows?
jordan holmes
It wasn't crows.
unidentified
It was crazy.
alex jones
If they didn't kill me, who will take my place?
That's what you've got to understand when I'm going to go over here.
And for heaven's sakes, don't let them blow my brains out and kill some hooker or something.
unidentified
I'm going to fly over here.
I'm going to take my own something outside.
I'm going to die on a heart attack at 39 or whatever.
It's bull, okay?
alex jones
It's bull.
dan friesen
Fair enough, it's Alex.
unidentified
If Ron Paul dies, he's only 75. If Ron Paul dies, Princess Diana Gilman.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I mean, that is just, I mean, you know, that's just gonna fuck.
alex jones
I forgot that clip went that long.
jordan holmes
If Alex dies...
David Knight killed him.
You didn't fucking...
I'll write that down on my...
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you said it in there.
If I die, he takes my place.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was definitely not David Knight.
dan friesen
There's one heir apparent, and he's boring as shit.
jordan holmes
Princess Di was...
She was...
She was alright.
unidentified
She was probably killed by...
We're on call.
jordan holmes
Probably killed by...
unidentified
Classic David Knight.
I think Big Point is on his rope, please.
alex jones
Let me go to a commercial lake.
unidentified
Let's hear the next episode.
In a coming apart world, you need something to keep it tied together.
alex jones
That something is at wood rope.
dan friesen
The highest quality rope made in the U.S.A.
unidentified
It's shipyards, towline, or boating.
dan friesen
Alice is straight up just selling broke.
unidentified
You're the best broke.
The best broke.
alex jones
The best broke.
unidentified
I love how shit his commercials are.
jordan holmes
Alex, you're so insane.
Fake TV!
unidentified
Rope!
jordan holmes
I've got a picture for you.
Alright, you've got to sell this product.
alex jones
Alright, I'm listening.
jordan holmes
Now, have you ever needed a thing to be nearer to a thing?
Rope.
dan friesen
Solve it.
unidentified
Now, with rope, do you know that you can turn it into a loop?
jordan holmes
Best quality rope!
unidentified
You can turn it into a loop and throw it at something.
dan friesen
Like my ancestors did with candles.
jordan holmes
Do you know what?
alex jones
I don't know.
jordan holmes
What are we going to do more on Rope?
unidentified
We've got another 25 minutes to do on Rope.
jordan holmes
We have a lot to do.
We do have a lot to do.
unidentified
We're already in two and a half hours, guys.
jordan holmes
This will be a podcast later.
It's fine if you go.
Let's get to the next clip.
dan friesen
This whole thing is supposed to be about Andrew Breitbart and how he is not dead.
So let's get to the next one.
Number nine.
alex jones
The Breitbart Empire released the video he said the release of Obama.
If we don't see all this exposed, if we don't see all this brought out, if we see them start backing off, we know that people are being infiltrated.
You've got to know there's infiltration of them for dead men.
You've got to know they're under surveillance.
You've got to know people have been threatened or paid off.
We better see that video released right now.
For all of your own safety, you idiots, if anybody inside this organization is a mole, you're going to be killed later.
You're going to be infiltrated and paid off by the White House and by the CIA and by these popular banking espionage groups and that you're not going to be dealt with later.
If you know in every office, your only hope is to go public right now with a YouTube video right on YouTube or you're dead.
If they'll kill you after the election, if we start seeing more people who are there die, the only answer to this is to fire up and go head up against them.
So, I know the telltale signs.
Oh, we might have some heart problems, we're not sure, but we know it's been not efficient.
Going to law, says the coroner medical examiner, by law, law, law, law, law, law, law, law.
dan friesen
Keep in mind, Alex Jones is recording the show on the day while they're doing the autopsy.
Because that's how...
jordan holmes
The coroner said by law.
dan friesen
What was his point with the law?
unidentified
Uh, law, law, law, law, law.
dan friesen
When it was a good movie, I don't know.
jordan holmes
It was not a good movie.
unidentified
Oscar nominated, my friend.
I don't know anything about movies.
Alright.
You don't know anything about movies?
jordan holmes
I've heard a lot about movies.
dan friesen
You can't do a podcast.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
Um, so...
The video that he's referencing is that it's CPAC in 2012.
unidentified
Andrew Breitbart got up there with fucking cocaine hair going crazy.
dan friesen
And I want to talk with my hair.
jordan holmes
But his hair is in regular size balls.
Going nuts.
Unrebarcable testings.
unidentified
I'm going to do my impression of Andrew Breitbart coming out for CPAC.
Here we go.
jordan holmes
Hold on.
dan friesen
I'm going to go back here.
jordan holmes
Let's give it up for Andrew Breitbart!
unidentified
He comes up to vanilla radio.
Yeah!
dan friesen
So he comes out, he's like, "Whoa!" "Whoa!" "Whoa!" "Whoa!" "No, close." He comes up to the mic, because he's like, "Whoa!" He's behind the podium and he's like, I was looking for the Occupy people with their glitter bombs!
And I'm like, it falls flat.
It doesn't even work in the room.
And so he just talks about how he's going to really go after Obama for the, we're going to vet him this time.
And he says that he has videos of Obama when he was in college supporting radical professors.
And it turns out, after he died, one video did come out.
That was Obama.
In 1991, he was, uh...
jordan holmes
He was one of the guys from the Weather Underground, right?
unidentified
Nope.
Oh.
Nope.
jordan holmes
Different guy.
unidentified
Yeah, different guy.
Alright, alright.
jordan holmes
That's what everyone wants to do.
unidentified
Well, Obama's been linked to so many revs.
dan friesen
Well, there is Bernadine Dorn and Bill Ayers that they keep trying to connect him to in college.
jordan holmes
T.B. Webber Bottom, of course.
unidentified
T.B. J.A.!
The dearest, sweetest socialist of all time.
jordan holmes
Cheeky leg pork.
dan friesen
So in 1991, Obama was at Harvard.
He was the president of the Harvard Law Review.
And the video that came out after Andrew Weigart had died was him introducing this professor named Eric Bell.
Yeah, that's bullshit!
Yeah, absolutely!
jordan holmes
I'm on board!
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely!
jordan holmes
I would assume Alex is not.
unidentified
So this is the only video that's come out of all of this stuff.
dan friesen
Everybody expected it would be some sort of thing that was like, Obama and Bill Ayers are going to be sitting around talking about Bob and Bill Ayers.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And all that is is this video of him introducing a Very reasonable professor, I will say.
unidentified
I've looked into Terrell a little bit, and it's a lot of nonsense.
dan friesen
People are calling him super radical.
Also, the footage that...
jordan holmes
Women should be people!
unidentified
Fuck off!
dan friesen
Also, an important thing to point out is that the footage that Breitbart ended up releasing of this introduction for a speech...
It was owned by PBS.
And it had previously aired an episode of Frontline during the 2008 election.
unidentified
It wasn't even a scoop.
jordan holmes
It's owned by PBS.
dan friesen
Normal, normal things.
unidentified
Yep, absolutely.
dan friesen
So all that's a hot load of bullshit.
And then Andrew Breitbart put out a post, but he didn't because he was dead.
Breitbart put out a post...
jordan holmes
I guess they'll never get him to release that post.
dan friesen
His last post was put out after he died, and it was called The Vedic, Volume 1, Obama's Love Song for Saul Alinsky.
And all it was...
jordan holmes
We'll never get going, too.
dan friesen
Well, certainly not.
But all it was was an article about how Obama, in Chicago, in the late 90s, went to a play called The Love Song of Saul Alinsky.
jordan holmes
Like, oh no.
dan friesen
Oh shit, you're busted.
jordan holmes
Like, even, like, even...
That wasn't a good play.
unidentified
Jordan, we're about to take a left turn.
jordan holmes
Alright, take a left turn.
When a weird guest shows up.
dan friesen
Guess what?
On this day that Andrew Breitbart died Alex Jones'guest was Ed Asner.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Ed Asner?
dan friesen
Ed Asner.
unidentified
All right.
And in this clip...
jordan holmes
Ed Asner!
unidentified
The Ed Asner, Yes, and in this clip, Ed Esner explains the importance of unions.
You sit out of his toes, and you can't cut him off because he's too big of a celebrity.
So when I finally quit there in my back to Chicago and tried to be more of an actor, and I still had to get jobs, and I said I'd never work on an auto plant again.
And finally, seeing my friends working for $1.90 an hour, which was impossible, I went and got a job at a Ford plant there.
And that Ford plant played $1.90 an hour, and that was big time.
So I said, okay.
And I worked as a fiddle finisher there, but I worked there for about nine months.
And I want to say that the difference between that closed shop plant, that union shop, as opposed to the open shop that I worked in, was the difference between night and day, and that's where I became the union man.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
unidentified
I don't see how I received it like a respectable worker, which I was never treated at the viewing plant.
So I'm a union man, I've been so ever since.
The difference between working union and doing an honest day's work and working non-union, and by that I would point out the fact to you, that every time a non-union man works, the wages he's getting are there because a union shop established a level...
jordan holmes
Fuck yeah, Ed Hesner!
Hell yeah!
unidentified
...the most new union ain't reworking at slave wages himself.
jordan holmes
Goddamn right!
unidentified
...creation of a higher wage scale.
alex jones
Let me make this point.
Look at China, which they call communists.
It's not communists.
It's a top-down, I'll leave this entire group.
unidentified
A couple things.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
Alex has a great rebuttal.
alex jones
Shit rebuttal.
jordan holmes
Shit rebuttal.
unidentified
Also, you keep calling them the Chaikoms.
jordan holmes
The Chaikoms?
You can't do that.
Look, the Chai Crumbs didn't invent Pixar did that.
alex jones
You kidding?
jordan holmes
No, you're goddamn right, man.
unidentified
You're a darn hot product.
jordan holmes
Toy Story?
No, no, no, that's not...
I don't want to do a racist Chinese thing.
unidentified
No.
It's a hot-letter nonsense, but fucking...
dan friesen
Let's give a round of applause for Ed Espin.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
You're all the way!
dan friesen
May he may not be dead at this point, I don't know.
jordan holmes
And he could be dead.
dan friesen
If he is, we miss him.
jordan holmes
But, uh...
Call Larry Nichols.
unidentified
That...
dan friesen
Sincerely, it's the most coherent, reasonable thing I've ever heard on The World Wars.
And I was so surprised that Alex didn't scream over him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean...
unidentified
Because he's such a huge, Hollywood star that he couldn't...
jordan holmes
He's a big fan of Cars.
You gotta give Alex a huge fan of Cars.
Cars 2?
Not as good.
dan friesen
Also, it took Mary Tyler Moore the wrong way.
Like, the wrong character.
unidentified
Is he the boss of Mary Tyler Moore?
jordan holmes
Ed Esser?
Yeah.
Was he the boss of the movie?
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alright, well, I believe the random people who say So in this next clip, we get to find out something about Alice Jones and how much of a square he is.
unidentified
Let's go to clip 12. What's your gut tell you?
alex jones
Because now they're saying maybe art, maybe something else.
What's your gut tell you about him?
jordan holmes
I mean, he was a demon for you.
You're not in college, dude.
That sounds like a ton.
alex jones
Well, I was nuts.
jordan holmes
That's us.
alex jones
From multiple...
dan friesen
There's a couple reasons why he wasn't.
One, he didn't go to college.
unidentified
That's a good one.
alex jones
That's a good point.
unidentified
That's a good point.
jordan holmes
Can't argue that.
dan friesen
But I fucking love that that's at the same moment as, like, they were trying to twerk me into big Hollywood movies.
What's up?
alex jones
Not a thousand!
unidentified
Don't worry.
He's already been that past college years.
150 by 16. Yeah, he started early.
dan friesen
He's in the dick weight in junior high.
jordan holmes
Unremarkable.
dan friesen
Well, we had to do something.
unidentified
From the perfect American.
It will haunt me.
dan friesen
My friend told me that your balls should be unworked.
unidentified
There's going to be a problem until the day I die.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I agree.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, at this point, the episode on March 1st ends.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And we go on to March 2nd.
And the reason I've combined these two episodes together is that Alex Jones makes his narrative quite a bit more robust as time goes on.
jordan holmes
Because Andrew Breitbart dies again.
unidentified
He still was dead.
alex jones
He didn't die twice.
jordan holmes
He continued to be dead.
dan friesen
It turned out it was not fake news that he had died.
He straight up had a heart twice as big as it should have been.
jordan holmes
I think it was three times as big as he should have been.
unidentified
Oh, twice.
jordan holmes
I think we're talking about that Will Smith movie.
Anyways.
unidentified
Eight pounds.
dan friesen
Check it out.
Will Smith cuts himself up and sits on top of ice.
unidentified
I like to pretend I've seen every Will Smith movie.
jordan holmes
Why?
unidentified
Why is there a thing you like to pretend?
Number one, Men in Black 2. Okay, that's wrong.
Number two, Men in Black.
jordan holmes
That's also wrong.
Number three.
unidentified
I know you.
jordan holmes
8 pounds.
Wasn't it 7 pounds?
Maybe.
I don't know.
How many grams was it?
How many grams was it?
alex jones
That's a different movie, not the point!
unidentified
That's a Naomi Watts movie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but Will Smith should have been in it.
alex jones
I agree.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
It was called $21,000.
unidentified
It's the weight of your soul, right?
jordan holmes
Alright, I don't want to get into this.
dan friesen
So, this next clip is where we come in on March 12th.
I'm sorry, March 2nd of 2012.
alex jones
And this is clip 13. And I will tell you now, according to the huge news on the right mark of time, that the consensus from multiple national talk show hosts I've talked to...
And from others in media that are very close to the late Ron Barth.
jordan holmes
We're up to like six people.
alex jones
About as close as you can get.
I'll just leave it at that.
The consensus is he was murdered.
The consensus is, without anybody having to discuss things, forget the maneuvers, go straight out, and everybody's just going to intensify, and nobody's backing off.
What maneuvers?
Some things killing him is going to make everybody run.
They got another thing coming.
They got another thing coming!
If you start seeing people like Matt Droz die, people like Michael Stafford die, people like Michael Stafford die, Michael Stafford die, you know there's a purge going on.
unidentified
Whatever you think you need to do at that point, do whatever you need to do.
I happen to know that Michael Savage has a whole bunch of bodyguards.
alex jones
I knew this a long time ago.
I had to confirm it from other sources.
jordan holmes
Why would you mean other sources?
You talked to him!
alex jones
He basically has them.
And I don't care, but Watson was playing to the audience this morning.
He reads our articles in full on air and never even says where they come from.
and then complains that Rush Limbaugh and others ripped him off, which they do.
But I only listen to Savage John at Time.
He is an interesting talk show host, very intelligent.
I think he's the best for the big mainstream host out there.
I don't know what he says or does, but he is a very intelligent person.
And he just reads our articles every day on air and never gives us credit, which is fine because all I hear about is getting the info out.
jordan holmes
Sure.
No, no, no, that's true.
alex jones
But the caller calls in and calls me, you know, the lowest agent, and Savage doesn't disagree with him.
I mean, that's really uncool to read our articles out there.
unidentified
Not cool.
jordan holmes
So uncool!
alex jones
Not rock points.
Savage.
No one has reported this.
No!
Six different locations, and it's hiding and wearing disguises.
jordan holmes
Savage is wearing disguises!
dan friesen
On the radio.
jordan holmes
What kind of radio disguises is he wearing?
dan friesen
I don't know a false voice in glasses.
jordan holmes
Because you've been depraved the whole camera!
dan friesen
Uh, Micah Savage sucks.
I just think it's really funny.
jordan holmes
Have you ever been racist?
No, I didn't.
unidentified
Alex Jones doesn't like my voice.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
Micah Savage is a piece of shit.
I think I'm fine with it.
dan friesen
I agree.
I think that's so funny.
unidentified
I love it.
I mean, first of all, I talk to people in media and other people in media.
jordan holmes
I've confirmed it from some sources, but have you heard of these other sources I've confirmed it from?
Aha!
dan friesen
But now it's time to go to the next commercial.
unidentified
Alright.
alex jones
Three years ago, I began to do a lot of research into why.
What up?
Right.
They know themselves, buy off cancer.
jordan holmes
It's true.
alex jones
I did search down the best vitamin and mineral company out there and discovered junk.
unidentified
Young Jerry, Young Jerry!
Young Jerry!
jordan holmes
The name of the place is Young Jevity!
Alright.
dan friesen
Alright.
alex jones
Okay, now.
jordan holmes
Let me tell you about the top four albums from Young Jevity.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
Some hot water!
jordan holmes
So, Young Jevity...
I'll fucking fix it!
Bino Future is working with Young Jebby.
dan friesen
Young Jebby's hot product is called Beyond Tiny Tangerine.
jordan holmes
We don't say those words hot.
dan friesen
It's Alex's proto-attack before he ever gets into the super male vitality and all that stuff.
To bring his turtle into the water.
unidentified
He does not make Dr. Groovey!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's called Young Gemini.
It's pretty cool.
It's maybe a drink.
alex jones
I don't know.
unidentified
So, so, Alice does Young, Alice does Young Gemini.
alex jones
He cleansed him like 40 pounds old.
unidentified
His next thought is like, give me somebody who would name shit better than this.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
Give me Dr. Groove.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, his name is Dr. Groove.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
No!
It's people getting together for a similar purpose.
jordan holmes
I thought super male vitality was bad, but Yongevity?
unidentified
Do you want to know about Yongevity?
jordan holmes
I do want to know about Yongevity.
dan friesen
Yongevity is a product that's put out, or it's a company that's run by this guy named Dr. Joel Wallach.
unidentified
A lot of doctors who probably don't have doctorates.
dan friesen
Well, he's a veterinarian.
unidentified
Good enough.
Alex is- Just like David Bowie's dentist?
jordan holmes
Wait, David Jones.
dan friesen
All kinds of Alex's weirdos who give him pills are a veterinarian.
unidentified
This veterinarian has gotten me as far as I can.
I've got to stretch it out to a villain.
jordan holmes
Is that allowed to move, or a- What are we talking about?
dan friesen
In terms of his profits, it's a huge problem.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but I mean, okay, if you're going to take meds, would you prefer a veterinarian or a chiropractor?
Is that a lateral word?
That's a lateral word, right?
A veterinarian?
unidentified
Okay.
Alright, alright.
jordan holmes
That's actually science.
unidentified
Hold on, before you jump in...
Young Jeopardy is actually science.
dan friesen
I should tell you that I've watched about two hours of Joel Wallach talk, and I have some questions about the science.
unidentified
Also, I don't want dog shit.
dan friesen
You know, like, I don't want things for animals.
jordan holmes
Right?
I don't want to marry me.
PSA.
A lot of the medications, you know, a lot of people do is that they will get a prescription from a veterinarian for their dog because that medication also works perfectly for people.
dan friesen
Great.
That's weird.
jordan holmes
Listen!
Listen!
I don't have health hacks!
This is true!
unidentified
Um, let's watch.
alex jones
That's American number one.
unidentified
Let's get to this next one again for March 2nd.
dan friesen
Because, uh, Alex Jones has established that everyone agrees that Breitbart was fucking murdered.
alex jones
And now, we gotta figure out who done it.
jordan holmes
Right!
dan friesen
And so now we'll do that in 15. Let's see that.
alex jones
Put the fourth team on it.
But the point is, Obama has to be the prime suspect in any...
And I know Breitbart himself, drugs, and others are on that enemy list that came out a year and a half ago.
Yet I am on the enemy list.
This is not a joke.
unidentified
This is not a game.
alex jones
You understand that?
unidentified
You think this is a game?
jordan holmes
You think this is a motherfucking game?
unidentified
Obama is murdering bitches out here!
jordan holmes
Come on, son!
unidentified
Do you know from Obama's enemy list?
jordan holmes
Is it anything like Arya Stark's enemy list?
Like, what are we talking about?
dan friesen
It's not, nor is it anything like Nixon's enemy list.
I looked into this pretty deeply, and there's one thing that is actually kind of, like, legitimate.
And that is, during his re-election campaign, a website called Keep GOP Honest.
And what they did is they tracked Nick Romney's donors and things that they had done in the past.
unidentified
And a lot of people got like, hey, why are you doing that?
dan friesen
No private citizens have donated.
And that's kind of fucked up.
I don't know how I feel about it entirely.
That's not what Alex is talking about.
jordan holmes
My level of sympathy for people who donated to Romney is very low.
dan friesen
Well, because Alex Jones gave the time frame and said some specifics, I know that what he's talking about is a 2009 article in The Globe.
unidentified
Alright.
dan friesen
That's a tabloid.
jordan holmes
Most trustworthy of sources.
dan friesen
That's a tabloid, my friend.
They're February 27th.
jordan holmes
Owned by Ailes, wasn't it?
dan friesen
I think so.
The February 27th, 2017 cover says, Who testifies against Hillary?
Hillary weeps, how could you do this to me?
Their mother's dirty story was, "Oscar star scandals!
King's fetishes!
alex jones
Brain damage!
jordan holmes
Booker horror!" How is Tiki doing?
dan friesen
Did Ailes get assassinated?
jordan holmes
We missed them.
That's a good question.
Do we miss them?
I feel like we don't.
unidentified
They had an August 6th, 2012 episode?
Episode?
dan friesen
Of The Globe?
Heartbreak for Diane Clinton.
He won't live to see Chelsea's baby.
He begs to wait to call off him.
jordan holmes
Wait, which...
Who's he?
Yeah.
unidentified
Bill!
jordan holmes
Dave!
Who's much not?
dan friesen
They're terrible.
unidentified
Um...
jordan holmes
George?
unidentified
He lived to see her baby, didn't he?
jordan holmes
Does she have a baby?
Does she have a baby?
dan friesen
I found the article that Liz was based on the Obama's enemy list.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I'm gonna read it to you.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Under relentless assault from a mob of vicious critics, President Barack Obama has drawn up a secret list of enemies he aims to take down.
One by one!
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
Incredibly, ultra-religious pop legend Pat Boone Who sang the 1950s hit "It Will Love" is also March for Action, as is country star Toby Keith.
unidentified
So Pat Boone and Toby Keith are on the Obama's...
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
Are they up and near the top?
Where are we on the list?
dan friesen
Quote, "This is war," an insider tells the globe.
Obama is gonna do whatever he can to discredit these people.
jordan holmes
Wait, he's gonna do whatever he can to discredit...
Toby.
Toby, yeah.
I just want to be sure that we know that Obama is going to bring the full resources of the government to bear.
I'm discrediting Toby.
dan friesen
He is enraged by the constant attacks on his presidency and against him personally.
He's just at it.
This has become very personal for him.
Up until now, Obama has let his foe savage him mercilessly, even though insiders say, Michelle has been urging him to fight back.
Fear can be granted as a win.
Also, fun point, the Globe cover from October 2007 says, quote, Bossy Michelle has made Obama a wimp.
unidentified
Alright, so we're in some full-on Macbeth territory, so what's going on here?
dan friesen
A couple things happening.
jordan holmes
It's a complicated circumstance.
dan friesen
It's absolute nonsense.
And that's where the idea of Obama's enemies list comes from.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
It's not real.
dan friesen
It's not a real thing.
Anyway.
I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just about fake communists that Alice is talking to.
I believe we need to get the last commercial, if we can.
unidentified
When you're out on the road, the last place you want to be is on the road.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
unidentified
The last place for me is on the road, and you're out on the road.
Yes.
When you leave me down, yes and jeez.
jordan holmes
Woo-hoo!
Yes!
That's amazing!
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
One diamond gussie in the crotch was bringing in the morning Blue diamond gussies got it It's a very slow night we turned jeans inside out.
Diamond gussie jeans making you feel unparalleled quality.
jordan holmes
That's amazing!
unidentified
They did another country song commercial!
dan friesen
Also I looked into it, I didn't know this, diamond gussie is a stitching term.
It's that little patchy.
unidentified
Or a rainbow mask.
Yeah, that was a weird thing to say.
jordan holmes
Even for me knowing that they make random sized cheese and then just mail them on into the air.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly!
jordan holmes
There's a part of me that, since thinking about it the last time that we talked about them, There's a part of it that's like, you don't even have to order those jeans, they just show up.
unidentified
Maybe.
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Like, sometimes you just go on the internet and you're like, where did these jeans come from?
And that's it!
dan friesen
Diamond Gusset Jeans is a fucking consistent supporter of Alex Jones.
unidentified
And they love getting creative with marketing.
dan friesen
Look at two country songs!
unidentified
We're gonna hear them!
That's very creative, but that's very uncreative.
dan friesen
How dare you?
unidentified
They're on Obama's Kill List!
They could have rested on their laurels with the first one.
jordan holmes
Tony Keith, Diamond Gusset, those are the only people on the Obama Kill List.
dan friesen
Diamond Gusset is not.
Um, so...
unidentified
Whoa!
I honestly don't think so.
What is...
jordan holmes
What is...
unidentified
Just the very dead hand that Diamond Gusset isn't.
jordan holmes
Anyways, we can continue.
I do not want Diamond Gusset's good name to try.
dan friesen
They give you red and sky-skinned jeans, and the same anti-NAFTA and weird twangy country songs that I remember.
unidentified
I don't want to fold it off a motorcycle.
jordan holmes
If we ever do merch, that's what we're doing in partnership with Diamond Gusset.
unidentified
I love it.
I'm trying to get Tinkerbell back to life.
dan friesen
I think they're still in business.
We have one more piece of the narrative of Andrew Whiteheart's death that we need to get through from March 2nd, and it is going to lead to probably one of my favorite things that I've ever discovered for researching this podcast.
I'm very excited that we're all still here, and hopefully still in this.
Are we all still in this?
jordan holmes
He just got six months for pandering.
dan friesen
This?
jordan holmes
Pandering.
He used to be a man.
dan friesen
So, Alex Jones, on March 2nd, starts an entirely new narrative about Andrew Breitbart's death.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Until that point, all he'd been saying is that at CPAC, he'd been saying he was going to release tapes of Obama from when he was in college.
jordan holmes
False lag, murdering, etc.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And now we get to clip 16, where he says something entirely new.
alex jones
One of the top stories on the web right now by Mark.
Wait till they see what happens March 1st.
unidentified
Well, yeah, they killed two men now.
alex jones
Two weeks for people to stay until it gets released.
That's all the info wars.
Dot com.
Bob Chapman's our guest.
We'll take a few phone calls.
dan friesen
Also, just the fun Bob Chapman song, and he's the guy who said that Reagan got butt-fucked.
jordan holmes
Are we going to return visit by Bob Chapman?
dan friesen
No, we don't get to hear any of this.
jordan holmes
Oh, come on!
unidentified
I just wanted to click just so I remembered to bring that up.
dan friesen
It's Bob Chapman song.
He's like, yeah, Brad Brown was poisoned.
unidentified
I believe it.
dan friesen
He drank wine, but he just put poison in the wine.
So, clip 17. Just to reinforce this narrative.
alex jones
Breitbart has the footage and said he was going to release it.
This is hiding in plain view.
We just dug it up and posted it, so it's one of the top stories on the web today.
jordan holmes
It's hiding in plain view.
Why do you need to dug it up?
alex jones
That he said, I'm going to release the film of Obama at communist meetings where they're discussing re-education, overthrow the U.S. government, everything.
I'm going to release it March 1st.
He said this in three separate interviews and a speech.
Not just a speech you've all seen where he said, "I don't release photos, we're gonna vetting, he's not gonna get away with this guy." So he was gonna swift-mode Obama, who's already politically- Wait, swift-moding was bullshit!
dan friesen
And done by his French rules.
So, Jordan, what do you think about this idea that- I'm asking if Jordan believes that.
jordan holmes
Do you believe?
Do we have a specific March 1st?
Oh, you mean like it might be next year?
Did Breitbart say March 1st?
Did he give it a year?
Furthermore, if he was going to release all of this information on March 1st, and yet at the same time he's murdered on March 1st, couldn't he have just done it at like 6am?
dan friesen
I'm about to drop.
jordan holmes
Like, didn't he do it in a late one?
It's like there could have been dead drop, like there could have been...
Like, he already...
They had to have emailed it and it's on, right?
unidentified
They don't just go to Prince and like...
jordan holmes
No, it's not how it fucking works!
Why would you do it on the day?
Go two weeks back!
Go on!
He's not this fucking stupid!
unidentified
Why would you fucking do it on the day?
jordan holmes
On the day!
unidentified
Like, let me set the death drop.
jordan holmes
You would at least email it to a friend.
Or, you know what, if I want to copyright something, I fucking mail it to myself.
Like, you could do so many different fucking things.
Yes, we can.
So I look into this.
dan friesen
I look into this in March 1st when I watched the entire CPAC speech there in Red Parkade.
And actually, I watched his CPAC speech from 2010.
jordan holmes
Just for fun.
Because, yeah, why not?
dan friesen
Clearly also on LinkedIn.
He doesn't mention March 1st in either of them.
He doesn't mention March 1st in any other thing.
He doesn't mention any specific threads.
He doesn't even say in the CFX speech, we're going to drop these videos in any specific thread.
He just says, this election cycle, we're going to vet him more.
And what have you.
jordan holmes
Code for white.
dan friesen
Where the fuck does this come from, this March 1st thing?
And I kept finding it.
I kept finding it on conservative blogs.
I kept finding it everywhere.
I found it in YouTube videos, and every single time, it linked back to InfoWars.
jordan holmes
So they just made it up?
Whole clock!
dan friesen
There was an InfoWars article on March 2nd, written by Paul Joseph Watson.
jordan holmes
That fucking pile of garbage.
dan friesen
And it's the only source of this March 1st thing.
jordan holmes
So BJ Devs just made the whole thing up?
dan friesen
Well...
The article's the only place that keeps coming back...
jordan holmes
P.J. Dubs killed Princess Di.
unidentified
Did he kill Princess Di?
jordan holmes
He killed Princess Di!
I knew it!
Tiki was in on it the whole time!
unidentified
This headline and quote was linked by Drudge.
It was hotline.
jordan holmes
It was red.
dan friesen
Drudge pushed it out there.
unidentified
Literally everything goes back to InfoWars.
InfoWars has one source in the article.
dan friesen
Just one source.
That's a guy named Larry Sinclair of Sinclairianism.
Who claims that Andrew Breitbart said...
jordan holmes
Is that the Sinclair Broadcasting Network now that...
No, I wish it was.
That would be a much easier story.
Because then it would have been a progression and they turned it into this right-wing thing that's owning local news across the world.
No, it's just a random coincidence that all Sinclair...
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, it's a crazy dude.
jordan holmes
What you're telling me is that everybody named Sinclair is a right-wing monster.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Dumb.
unidentified
Although this guy claims...
dan friesen
He's not right-wing, but we'll deal with that.
jordan holmes
He's on his voice.
dan friesen
No, he was close.
jordan holmes
Although, then again, Ed Asner is on his voice.
dan friesen
He was close.
unidentified
So that asks a lot of questions about the movie Up.
That is great.
I have a lot of questions about Up, too.
jordan holmes
Is it right-wing propaganda?
Nobody asks you his question.
Do you know who Larry Sinclair is?
Of course not.
dan friesen
Does anyone know who Larry Sinclair is?
jordan holmes
Unfortunately.
dan friesen
Okay, good.
unidentified
Keep it to yourself for a second.
dan friesen
So, in 2008, Larry Sinclair wrote a book called Barack Obama: Cocaine, Sex, Lies, and Murder.
unidentified
Well, I am a huge fan of Larry Sinclair so far!
jordan holmes
Larry Sinclair is up here!
dan friesen
This book was released on Sinclair Publishing.
In the book, he claims that in 1999, though he never had met him previously, he requests a friend connected with someone to show him around Chicago, and he's hooked him up with then-State Senator Barack Obama.
He's introduced by name...
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait, wait!
Hold on!
Hold on!
In the story, this guy is like...
I've never seen Chicago.
And his friend is like, well, let's get state senator Barack Obama to give you a tour.
dan friesen
Who's introduced to him by hand.
jordan holmes
Yes, he is.
dan friesen
That's very specific.
So the two of them hang out a little bit, and then they go to a restaurant, and then they go buy some cocaine.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
At that point, Obama smokes some crack, and Larry votes in LMO.
jordan holmes
So Larry Sinclair.
dan friesen
Who made the crowd?
unidentified
Obama.
dan friesen
A lot of cocaine.
jordan holmes
Obama already had bread.
Alright, so, if I understand the progression of events, the progression of events so far, I'm a random dude, I know a friend, I need a tour of Chicago.
No tour bus.
State Senator Barack Obama is going to come in here.
We're going to have a nice meal.
Me and State Senator Barack Obama.
We're just going to have a good time.
State Senator Barack Obama is like, let's get into my car.
We're going to smoke crack.
So then they smoke crack.
And then Larry Sinclair is like, well, you're state senator Barack Obama, and blows him.
dan friesen
You have it all first.
unidentified
Okay, all right, all right, all right.
We've got a long way to go for Larry Sinclair.
dan friesen
This guy is the worst.
So Larry Sinclair made these claims and he wrote a book.
And then a website called whitehouse.com.
Which was a guy who was like, "I'm gonna try and make a parody site." But then I said, "No, I'm going to it." So he just started doing a parody porn site.
And his traffic spiked, of course.
And he got a ton of money in.
And then he was like, "Alright, Larry Sinclair, I'll give you $10,000 to do a polygraph test, and $100,000 if you pass it." And so Larry Sinclair's like, "Fuck yeah, I'll do it." And the results?
Unindicated deception.
unidentified
*laughter* *laughter*
dan friesen
I read the entire report.
jordan holmes
It's insane.
unidentified
You say that indicating deception is so generous.
dan friesen
He was lying his ass off.
So Larry went out to claim that the sponsors, WhiteHouse.com, that they had been bribed by David Axelrod for the Obama campaign to rig the United States.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
He tried to sue them, and it was thrown out of course.
So then journalists started doing some digging and found out that Larry Sinclair had the most extensive criminal history imaginable, including crimes committed in multiple states under his 13-8th grade.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
jordan holmes
He had the most extensive crime history imaginable?
I don't know, why did he use that phrase?
dan friesen
I might have heard that.
alex jones
Those might have been my words.
jordan holmes
He was the guy in Star Wars who was like, I have learned.
Like, he's that guy.
Wait for it.
dan friesen
There's 13 aliases.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
In January 1981, he was arrested for a varsity of over $200.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
In June 1985, he was arrested in Broward County, Florida under the name La Reviserae Avila for rank theft and sentenced to one year and one day in prison.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
In August 1986, he was sentenced in Dade County, Florida under the name of La Re Vizarra Azula Adams for check forgery and second degree grand theft.
He got on a year probation and made to pay $7,400 for restitution to do his business.
In November 1986, he was sentenced to $7,400.
jordan holmes
Are we going to go through all of these?
dan friesen
He was arrested in Lakewood, Colorado, for credit card fraud and announced statement warrant for check fraud in Pueblo, Colorado.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
In April 1987, he was arrested for second-degree forgery and sentenced to 16 years in prison.
jordan holmes
What's second-degree forgery?
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
Kind of light forgery.
He was in prison until 1999, which would be right around the time he alleges he blew a lava metal.
Now, Jordan, while in prison, Colorado state records show that he was disciplined 97 times, and at least 16 of which were for assault.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
unidentified
I don't know.
A bunch of them were for drug possession, drug healing, sexual misconduct, and a whole lot of facts.
jordan holmes
See, I don't...
I'm against prisons and their insistence.
I don't know who to be on the side right now.
And he blew Obama, so that's kind of like a thing.
Good on him.
dan friesen
In September 2007, after he was released, and before he made these claims, he was arrested in Kershaw, Sydney, South Dakota for public disorderly conduct.
Which leads us back to 2008.
When he made these claims about Obama.
And he decided to rent out the D.C. Press Club.
To give perhaps the weirdest...
unidentified
Where did he get the money to rent out the DC Press Club?
dan friesen
He claims it's from a pal donation.
jordan holmes
Alright, well, then I buy it.
Then I buy it.
That's fine.
And he invested in Bitcoin.
unidentified
Fine.
It's perhaps the weirdest press conference I've ever seen in my life.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, in the press conference, someone asks him how big Barack Obama's dick is.
And he's like, Barack Obama's...
jordan holmes
Unremarkable.
dan friesen
He said, Barack is a one big black man with a white guy's...
You know.
unidentified
It's a press conference and it's a press club.
dan friesen
It's terrible.
So, the press conference was hosted by his lawyer, a guy named Montgomery Sylvie, right?
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And at one point, Montgomery is asked, Hey dude, why are you wearing a kilt?
jordan holmes
That's a good question.
dan friesen
Good question.
jordan holmes
That's a very good question.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so he explains, for people who are the normal to small children, their pants may not be uncomfortable.
unidentified
For us on the other end of the spectrum, and then we take a few trails off.
jordan holmes
Holy shit.
I'm wearing a kilt because my dick is too big.
That's what he says.
dan friesen
At the beginning of the press conference, Larry...
jordan holmes
That man is going to become president someday.
dan friesen
Larry specifically says at the beginning of the press conference, thank you, Reverend James David Manning, for showing up.
unidentified
Who, if you don't know, is the guy who said, "Assad of Lang dropped off a bucket of poop at night." Yep, yep.
jordan holmes
It all comes back.
He was there, though!
unidentified
Jesus David Manning was involved with Larry Sinclair.
jordan holmes
We just last Jedi-ed you, motherfuckers.
dan friesen
So, here's the funniest part.
After the press conference, Sinclair was arrested by DC police.
unidentified
Of course!
jordan holmes
Wait, immediately after?
Immediately after!
unidentified
So he got his dick joke in, and then he went to jail.
dan friesen
You can watch the press conference on YouTube, and it ends abruptly, and it fills me with so much joy to know as soon as the video cut off, he just got arrested.
jordan holmes
Then we couldn't all go out like that.
dan friesen
So he got arrested because two U.S. officials showed up and presented a warrant from the state of Delaware for Sinclair's arrest.
Mom, don't worry, Blair, Sylvie.
Who had his law license suspended by the District of Columbia and Florida, and who was previously Sinclair's attorney, reviewed the warrant, and Sinclair was led away.
Sinclair, uh, the speculation is the arrest sent for the Delaware warrant, although there's also an outstanding felony warrant for Sinclair.
In Pueblo County, Colorado, he had two outstanding warrants.
Okay.
Also, he tried to sue internet commenters.
jordan holmes
No, that makes sense.
Yeah.
dan friesen
But the reason we're talking about him is that...
The reason we're talking about this is because he's the reason that Alex Jones is reporting that Breitbart, at this conference, this thing called Longbash, had said, wait till March 1st.
That all comes from Larry St. Meyer.
That's the only source that we can see.
He is an incredible fucking source.
jordan holmes
He's the Gary Webb.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the DCist, that website that used to exist, wrote a 2009 article about Blog Bash.
Quote, "If there's an ick factor in Blog Bash and in the right-wing blogosphere, its name is Larry Sinclair." If that name rings at all for another, it's because he's the guy who posted in 2008 a video on YouTube claiming that in 1999 he had sex with and smoked crack cocaine with a Illinois State Senator named Barack Obama!
No one's ever really believed him, including, I'm sure, the people in this room who live to discredit the Obama administration.
jordan holmes
Wrong!
Wrong!
dan friesen
He wants to talk to everyone, but only the daring one to talk to him.
Breitbart gives him a warm hello.
Sinclair asks me to snap a photo of the two I obliged.
It's one of those cliented patron kind of moments.
Sinclair, the lone wolf crying foul, and Breitbart at least being willing to listen.
unidentified
I'm not really sure he believes Sinclair either.
dan friesen
In that entire article, there's no mention...
Of March 1st.
It's all bullshit, Dad.
It's all bullshit.
unidentified
Alright.
Made up by a guy who claims to have sucked up Barack Obama.
alex jones
It's all bullshit.
unidentified
Everything is a lie.
jordan holmes
Everything is a lie!
I genuinely wish more of our casted characters would also have I blew Obama under their belt.
That would be a nicer world for me.
Alright.
Bring it home, Dan.
dan friesen
Bring it home.
Let's get to clip at 18. You don't want to end up like Breitbart.
alex jones
And see, for me, that's so alien to be intimidated.
In fact, it's the opposite.
I feel so alive.
I really enjoyed driving to work this morning.
I love life so much.
unidentified
I just love being alive and conscious of my children.
alex jones
I love life so much that I am so ready for these facts.
Don't.
I would try to do it where it's like, I've got to add a dog.
Who knows a little bit?
I don't worry about it.
unidentified
Because the fire will go.
alex jones
And that's probably why they may not kill me.
jordan holmes
Of course!
That makes sense!
They would kill me, but they won't kill me!
unidentified
It's because they wouldn't kill me that they would kill me!
alex jones
But they won't!
jordan holmes
They won't kill me because they would kill me!
alex jones
It would be hack to kill me!
dan friesen
In the aftermath of Andrew Breitbart dying, Alex Jones goes, What is the deal with murdering me?
He wants to be important so badly that he lies about, well, I mean everything.
Yeah, but also Breitbart's death in order to create something that he can aspire towards.
I believe that the fake version of Andrew Breitbart's death that he presents is what he wishes for himself, and you can see him Desperately trying to be like, I want anyone to take a shot at me.
Throughout this entire fucking episode.
unidentified
And it's pathetic.
dan friesen
And Larry Sinclair is a fucking liar anyway.
jordan holmes
So, the entire point of this episode is that Alex Jones wishes he was Princess Diana.
unidentified
All that we've learned is that that is true.
If we didn't sum it up, I think that...
dan friesen
Why won't someone shoot at him?
jordan holmes
Well, I do support that.
I wish everybody was Princess Diana.
unidentified
Is that a thing?
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Anyway, I think you should come up with someone to say they can fuck themselves.
unidentified
Um, we're doing a live fucking show!
Who should fuck themselves?
dan friesen
All of us.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
You guys are here, so everybody else in the world is going to fuck themselves.
General Rapport is alright.
He tells Surtis about, like, dinosaurs.
unidentified
Who's the little magic guy who does that?
alex jones
Like, uh...
unidentified
No, no, no, the guy's like, uh...
alex jones
Facts don't care about your feelings.
dan friesen
Milo Yiannopoulos?
unidentified
No.
He's, like, a little short guy with dark hair.
dan friesen
Um...
jordan holmes
The more you describe him, the less...
unidentified
I thought I was thinking of a show that's cool I am with everything going on.
jordan holmes
Oh, for sure.
Oh, a destroyer?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
How's it lovely?
Hey, you know what?
That's a great one.
unidentified
Guys, this has been a wonderful episode.
jordan holmes
Thank you guys so much for coming out.
This is our first live episode.
dan friesen
And you guys know, too long.
jordan holmes
Way too long!
He thought it was gonna be short.
Anyways, thank you guys so much for coming out.
And Buckley can go fuck himself!
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