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Dec. 7, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#110: December 5, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about how Alex Jones couldn't stop interrupting a clip from Morning Joe that he played on his December 5th show. It takes Alex about 45 min of showtime to get through less than a minute of content, and boy, his analysis of it all is weak. Also, Alex admits that he started an entirely new sales website so he could skirt pricing agreements that he's signed with suppliers. 

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alex jones
16:28
d
dan friesen
50:59
j
jordan holmes
26:45
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joe scarborough
03:03
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mika brzezinski
00:53
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Alex, I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
That is what we do, Dan.
dan friesen
Yes, sir.
jordan holmes
Would you just listen to two assholes talk about Alex Jones?
dan friesen
At this point, yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
I think so, too.
dan friesen
My life has been destroyed.
jordan holmes
I think it's pretty much that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
No, not just...
jordan holmes
But why would regular people listen to a show?
dan friesen
Well, I think they might like to tune in to hear two dudes who have very different...
Different levels of knowledge about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
One person has all the knowledge.
dan friesen
One of them.
jordan holmes
The other person?
dan friesen
None.
jordan holmes
None of the knowledge.
dan friesen
Knows nothing about anything.
Blank slate.
jordan holmes
That's what I am.
dan friesen
Yeah, tabula rasa.
jordan holmes
This would be such a weird show if you got somebody...
Every week who actually knew nothing about Alex Jones?
dan friesen
Who's this guy?
jordan holmes
Like if I never actually learned anything, like if I had some sort of weird amnesia.
dan friesen
Or every episode I Elkabong you.
jordan holmes
That would be great.
dan friesen
At the end of the show.
jordan holmes
That would be fantastic.
dan friesen
I either Elkabong or Jeff Jarrett you and hit you over the head with a guitar.
jordan holmes
Don't say Jeff Jarrett.
dan friesen
Slap nuts.
jordan holmes
That's very offensive.
dan friesen
Shut up, slap nuts.
jordan holmes
Very offensive.
dan friesen
He used to hit people over the head with a guitar filled with cocaine.
jordan holmes
Jeff Jarrett?
Disgusting.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
unidentified
Ah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we're going to be talking today about something that happened on the December 5th, 2017 episode.
jordan holmes
That's 12-5, right?
dan friesen
That's correct.
That would be Tuesday of this week.
But before we do, I'd like to get to an out-of-context drop of Alex Jones.
alex jones
Fiery finger of the Lord rode into the stone.
Marble tablets.
Marble tablets of Mueller.
Mueller.
Mueller.
dan friesen
I just wanted to...
jordan holmes
Alright!
I love his analysis.
He really gets into the weeds.
dan friesen
I wanted to start off with that so the chat room could have a drink.
jordan holmes
A lot of fake laughs going on there.
dan friesen
He's on this weird place where he's talking about how the investigators are gods to the liberals.
Yeah, that makes sense.
It's wild.
It's nonsense.
unidentified
I don't get that.
jordan holmes
I don't get his tip.
dan friesen
I do.
jordan holmes
How's that?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's just discrediting the people.
jordan holmes
I mean, is it?
dan friesen
Oh, in the eyes of his listeners, yeah, probably.
He's like, they're blindly following this dumb false god of theirs, Mueller.
And the only criticism he really ever has of Mueller, he's like, he's up to his eyeballs in Russia stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the only example he really gives is the tarmac.
jordan holmes
The uranium deal.
dan friesen
And that's not even the uranium deal.
No.
It just happens to involve uranium.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Him bringing it to the Russian investigators.
Because it was confiscated in Georgia.
jordan holmes
Don't understand.
dan friesen
And it was a collaborative investigation between the United States and Russia.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it sounds like he screwed it up.
dan friesen
Totally, yeah.
So, Jordan, today we're going to be going over...
There's a lot of bullshit on the December 5th episode.
And we're going to not talk about most of it.
jordan holmes
Because I think if I was going to attack Mueller, I would go with, like, he looks like a principal.
dan friesen
You hang dog punk!
jordan holmes
You know, he looks like, Jesus Christ, are you going to discipline me?
unidentified
Do you have a paddle with holes in it?
jordan holmes
What is this, the 1950s?
Fuck you.
dan friesen
Don't give Trump any ideas.
That's going to be the next, like...
That's going to be the next hashtag trend.
Vice Principal Mueller.
It's going to stick, too.
That's the worst part about it.
jordan holmes
That's a tie-in with the HBO show Vice Principals.
dan friesen
See?
jordan holmes
I did it.
dan friesen
So we're going to ignore a whole lot of what happens on this episode and mostly focus on about a 20-minute chunk that takes up a large portion of the first hour.
But before we do, I want to actually start the episode by going to the end of the episode.
Or a little bit later in the episode.
jordan holmes
What is this, memento?
What are we doing here?
Huh?
We're starting at the end and working backwards?
Don't understand.
dan friesen
Somewhat, because this piece is actually separate from what we're going to be going over, but it definitely needs to be discussed.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And this is in the middle of an ad.
It is bringing up something new in InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And by the way, we've launched a new, big, massive website that's been...
Oh, a year in the making filled with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of products that are not sold on the other site.
And that's fortifiedsupply.com, a survival and camping store, an exclusive InfoWars Life reseller.
And just like I carry storable foods and then have the lowest price because I'm a reseller of those, it lets me contractually get around map agreements.
And I'm not doing it unscrupulously.
They know I'm doing it.
Same thing here, setting up a subsidiary to be able to sell you camping supplies and survival gear and things through a subsidiary of another company so that we can give you even lower prices.
jordan holmes
Why are you telling us this?
dan friesen
What do you understand?
jordan holmes
You don't need to say that shit!
dan friesen
What do you understand from that sentence that he just said?
jordan holmes
Well, he's getting around map.
What was it again?
dan friesen
Map agreements.
jordan holmes
Map agreements.
dan friesen
Map agreements are minimum advertised price agreements.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And they are contractual.
They are in place for a reason.
But what else do you understand?
We'll get to that in a minute.
jordan holmes
And then he's creating a subsidiary in order to sell it as something separate from his business.
dan friesen
Indeed.
jordan holmes
But he just revealed that it is his business.
dan friesen
And he's doing it to get around map agreements.
But he says...
These people who are supplying the product, it's not like I'm doing this in an insidious way.
They know I'm doing it.
jordan holmes
That's not...
dan friesen
Why are you telling us this?
jordan holmes
Don't put your business out!
dan friesen
That can't possibly be true.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
So let me tell you a little bit about map agreements.
jordan holmes
Why would...
Okay, alright.
So I'm the wholesaler.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Right, and I'm like, alright.
Alex.
We need you to participate in this program.
Otherwise, we can't allow you to do it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then Alex comes back with...
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Now I'm going to do it differently.
And they're like, you know what?
That's fine.
No, I don't think that's how the negotiations went.
dan friesen
I'm also sure that they didn't.
I don't know, and I may in the future reach out to some of his suppliers and see what they think about this.
But the reason that I'm bringing this up at the beginning of the show, and I want to put a focus on this, map agreements exist for a very specific reason.
And they are to assure competition between...
So, for instance, Alex Jones has a large business, and he can afford to have lower margins, particularly lower margins than, say, a brick-and-mortar store.
They have much higher overheads, and in order for them to make what they need to stay open and pay their employees, they need to have bigger margins in the product.
So, Alex Jones, by...
Getting around map agreements, what he's saying is everyone has agreed that this is the lowest price we can advertise something for.
Because to advertise for lower would be to undercut people who can't advertise those prices.
And he's saying, I don't give a shit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So when he talks about prosperity, and when he talks about the idea of people having a fair chance, and bringing back small businesses...
jordan holmes
He's trying to make sure that doesn't happen.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
This admission on his part is actively working against the idea of the free fair market.
jordan holmes
Don't understand.
dan friesen
Everything he stands for is undercut by the idea of, I don't give a shit, I'm gonna start a second subsidiary so I can get around map agreements.
jordan holmes
I think...
Wasn't that enacted in order to kind of fight back against your Walmarts and your Costcos?
Who would...
Take a bath on something to start with in order to push those small businesses out.
And then they would raise their prices because they don't have any competition.
dan friesen
Most likely.
Most likely.
I'm not entirely sure what the reasoning behind it is, but it makes a lot of sense.
jordan holmes
So in his situation, I think he would probably argue that that is the free market.
Because I can survive this, I should be able to destroy prosperity and small businesses.
dan friesen
Prosperity for everyone who's smaller than me.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, that's gross.
dan friesen
They should work for me.
A lot of studies have been done about people who infringe on map agreements.
And generally what people have found who have done these studies...
jordan holmes
Is that they're all Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's weird that every time we do a study on these, it's all Alex Jones!
dan friesen
It was a study out of Kellogg Institute, I believe.
And what they found was that most of the time...
jordan holmes
And dried weed is great.
dan friesen
When people infringe on map agreements and charge a lower price, what they also do is raise their shipping price in order to stealthily get the money that they would have lost in changing the margin to be what is expected.
That way they raise volume and most people don't know about what the shipping cost is going to be until it's already too late in the transaction.
jordan holmes
Solid trick.
dan friesen
It's absolutely great and totally legal.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that's a good trick.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's good.
It's very manipulative and wrong.
The other thing that people found when they studied these map agreements and people who do not follow them when they're contractually obligated to is that what you end up doing is you end up really, really hurting your supplier.
You end up hurting your manufacturer because there's two prongs to it.
The first is that when you don't honor the map agreement, most people don't.
If people see that advertised price lower than what they've agreed to, they're like, oh shit, they're doing it, so I'll do it.
So then everybody starts in a competition to give lower prices.
And it's a race to the bottom.
So then everyone loses.
Everyone who's selling these things ends up selling them at much lower margins.
So you end up fucking over people who can't keep up.
So then secondarily what you do is you hurt the manufacturer because you create an illusion that their MSRP, the manufacturer's suggested retail price, is actually hyperinflated.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
It always is.
dan friesen
But if you're selling something for, let's say, something costs this amount and the minimum advertised price is here and you're selling it here, it makes it look like that first original price is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
It is ridiculous.
It's ridiculous on purpose.
dan friesen
We can't argue that part of it.
jordan holmes
What I am trying to say, Dan, is that at no point in time have I ever seen...
Unchecked capitalism lead to bad results for everybody involved.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I've never seen that happen before.
dan friesen
Understandable, but we're not talking about the big picture.
We're talking about Alex Jones' actions.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, he's committing a crime.
dan friesen
I don't know if it's a crime.
jordan holmes
He's in breach of contract.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Otherwise, what's the point of those contracts?
dan friesen
We don't have his contract, so we don't know entirely.
But at the same time, he would never bring that up if he wasn't in a contract.
He wouldn't bring up getting around map agreements by starting a new retail website if it wasn't something he was concerned about.
jordan holmes
Unless he's making...
I'm picking it up entirely, in which case, that cements into true fact, this dude's fucking insane!
What?
dan friesen
So now, I have done...
jordan holmes
How would you lie about that?
dan friesen
I have done some research.
jordan holmes
Oh, really?
I've never heard you say that before.
dan friesen
I went to FortifiedSupply.com, which is Alex Jones' new subsidiary, and I went and found and hunted down all of the distributors.
And I went to their websites and double-checked the prices.
To see what they were selling it for and what Alex is selling it for.
And I found some interesting things.
jordan holmes
Did he at least rebrand that stuff?
dan friesen
What do you mean?
No, no, no.
He does the Emmerich's Essentials, the private label stuff.
He does that.
And that's no big deal.
If he wants to, let's say, Super Blue.
That is Toms of Maine.
Private labeled.
unidentified
We know that because he's admitted it on X. Because he said that publicly.
jordan holmes
Which, again, stop putting your business out, Alex.
dan friesen
So if a tube of Tom's of Maine costs $10 and he private labels it and sells it for $8, it doesn't really matter to Tom's of Maine because they get the wholesale price no matter what.
And it doesn't hurt Tom's of Maine's bottom line or anybody else who's selling Tom's of Maine stuff because you're not supposed to know that that's Tom's of Maine.
So if you're selling Super Blue for eight, that shouldn't affect at all Toms of Maine.
But unfortunately it does.
jordan holmes
Well, it's a licensing situation.
So they're going to take their cut, no matter how much you sell it for, they're getting the same amount.
Right.
That's a smart move for Tom's of Maine because then they don't have to worry about advertising or anything along those lines.
dan friesen
That's in private label stuff.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And none of these instances that I'm about to bring up are private label.
jordan holmes
That's a bad idea.
dan friesen
They are all resold under their same name and I checked the specs on them and made sure they were the same products and everything.
jordan holmes
How much does he under...
What's the largest amount he undercuts them by?
dan friesen
Well, what's interesting is...
jordan holmes
Six million dollars.
dan friesen
You know what's fucking fascinating?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Almost nothing is discounted.
Now, here's where it gets fucked up.
jordan holmes
Wait, nothing is discounted compared to what the other place is?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But there's some weird anomalies that I found that I think are worth bringing up.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So first of all, InfoWars products are sold on Fortified Supply.
And they're sold literally zero difference in price.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
Which you'd expect.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you don't want to compete against yourself.
dan friesen
But there are some that have, like, sale price and original price, and all of it matches.
So InfoWars products all sold exactly the same.
There's a company called Citizen Armor, which sells, like, backpacks and bug-out bags.
Their prices are all exactly the same that you can find on CitizenArmor.com.
jordan holmes
I would definitely watch a movie named Citizen Armor.
I would totally watch that movie.
dan friesen
I think it would be dry.
jordan holmes
I'm imagining something along the lines of Judge Dredd.
The redo?
Do you remember?
Did you see the remake?
Or the newest Judge Dredd?
It was a great movie.
dan friesen
I see it as the next Pixar movie.
jordan holmes
Great movie.
The next Pixar movie.
All right.
dan friesen
The bulletproof vests walking around talking.
It's like cars, but with...
jordan holmes
Now that is a very dark movie.
dan friesen
So that's those two.
From what I can tell, Citizen Armor might be a newer sponsor or whatever, a newer affiliate.
So there might be something where...
Gotta stay on straight and narrow.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So then we get to Ledge Sports.
This is a new supplier that Alex Jones has.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
They sell, like, camping gear.
I don't think I saw any camp, like, any actual tents.
But there's a lot of, like, sleeping bags and stuff like that.
And I found some sort of interesting discrepancies.
The first is there's a river.
River is the type of bag.
Not like you can go in a river or anything.
It's just called a river.
jordan holmes
It's the...
Leather made from River Phoenix's skin?
dan friesen
Indeed.
There's like River Featherlight.
There's a bunch of lines of bags.
And so the River Zero Degree Sleeping Bag is sold for $69.99 on both websites as the original price.
It's marked down to $49.99 on Ledge Sports, marked down to $59.99 on InfoWars.
So he's selling at a worse discount.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's an instance where he's not trying to get any better deals on it.
I can't put this on the document cam because there's just way too much of it and I can't scroll around.
But go to fucking LedgeSports.com.
You can find all this stuff.
jordan holmes
Don't go to LedgeSports.com.
dan friesen
So the River 20 plus degree bag is $39.99 through $59.99 on LedgeSports, $59.99 on Infowars.
No discount and actually probably cheaper.
On the other one.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
On Ledge Sports.
Featherlight plus 20 sleeping bag is $54.99 on Ledge Sports and inexplicably $64.95 on InfoWars.
unidentified
Markups.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, marking up makes sense from there because they're not...
Because they're not the wholesaler.
It's not direct sales.
They have to go through their own overhead, and they have to go through their own markup there.
That makes sense.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
But it doesn't make sense based on what Alex Jones is pitching this site for.
He's saying that because I have an independent subsidiary, I can get you the cheapest prices.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but he's lying about that.
dan friesen
All of these are not the cheapest prices.
He sells heirloom organic seeds on there.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, who doesn't sell heirloom organic seeds?
dan friesen
For the Micro Greens Complete Kit, it's $99 on InfoWars.
It's $79.99 on heirloom organics.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
For their seed pack, the Micro Greens seed pack, it's $59.99 on InfoWars.
It's $49.99 on heirloom organics.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but see, that's like a branding markup.
Like, that's because you're going to something that Alex Jones is associated with.
dan friesen
It's conceivably an advertising fee.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I would argue it's possible to, like, oh, we'll get more attention to your stuff and we'll charge extra.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But that is not how Alex Jones presents what he's doing.
jordan holmes
No, so he was lying about the map agreement.
dan friesen
Right.
Right.
jordan holmes
Why would you lie about the map agreements?
Why would you pick something so specific to lie about?
dan friesen
Now.
jordan holmes
Couldn't you just say we have the lowest prices?
Not, I'm cheating my suppliers?
dan friesen
He doesn't have the lowest prices.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but you can lie about that.
Why would you lie about cheating other people?
dan friesen
Well, because I think he is.
jordan holmes
Okay, so now we're getting back into cheating.
dan friesen
Well, we'll get to that in a second.
Okay.
There's a chance that if you go through...
jordan holmes
I'm just trying to break up this episode of Price is Right going on right now.
dan friesen
If you go through Checkout, there's a decent chance that when you put it into your bundle, it would be cheaper.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because that is allowed.
You can have an advertised price that is, let's say, $200, and then you put it in your cart, and it's $170 or something like that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That's legal.
jordan holmes
So that's why you see...
dan friesen
Map agreements don't dictate what you can charge.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's what you can advertise you're charging.
jordan holmes
Right.
Okay.
dan friesen
So conceivably, any of these prices could be...
Like, lies.
Or whatever.
But be that as it may.
jordan holmes
I don't trust anything anymore.
dan friesen
Here is where it's fucked up.
jordan holmes
Once Alex Jones' stores aren't open and honest with me, who knows?
All bets are off.
dan friesen
I understand we're boring the shit out of people with a bunch of price talk.
jordan holmes
I'm trying really hard to make this interesting.
dan friesen
I need to get through it.
I have one more supplier that I found.
This has some very serious issues.
So he sells Harvest Right freeze dryers.
On his site.
On Fortified Supply.
jordan holmes
I assume those are sex toys.
dan friesen
Yeah.
They're very large things you can put food in and they'll give you dried apples out of it or something like that.
jordan holmes
You know what's sad?
I think we all actually probably need to start shopping at that store.
Like the way the world is going, it's almost like, damn it, Alex, you did do me a favor on this one thing.
dan friesen
I've got bad news.
We can't afford it.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, of course not.
dan friesen
So here was the greatest We were never going to be able to afford the apocalypse, Dan.
Here's the greatest disparate amount that I've found.
From the Harvest Right freeze dryers, all of their prices are wrong.
All of them are wrong.
They don't match at all.
There's no rhyme or reason to them in terms of the actual price or the sales price matching on Fortified Supply or on Harvest Right's website.
So the large freeze dryer, which is pretty big.
Pretty big.
On Fortified Supply, Infowars' website, it costs $3,145.50, marked down from $4,995.
So now, on Harvest Wright's website, it's $2,895 for the sale price, marked down from $3,495.
The difference is...
He's charging $300 more than they charge on their website, and the markdown price that he's pretending to have marked down from is also $1,500 higher.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's an artificially infrated MSRP.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is not what Heritage...
Harvest Right.
jordan holmes
The Heritage Foundation is actually the angel investors behind Harvest Right.
dan friesen
He's pretending and presenting that he's offering a much bigger discount than he is, which might be what he's talking about with the map show.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
So he's lying in a very specific way as though his listeners know what a map agreement is, and they're like, check this out.
This guy knows even how to screw over regular folk.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, anyway, this has been the first 20 minutes of the show wherein we discuss pricing.
jordan holmes
You really went for it there.
dan friesen
All right, now let's get to...
jordan holmes
What was the point of that again?
dan friesen
The point of it is everything that you can buy on InfoWars, short of InfoWars' own products, you can find for cheaper elsewhere.
You can probably find those products cheaper elsewhere, too, just you have to find out what the active ingredients are.
Uh-huh.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
It's basically, he's pretending that he's going...
jordan holmes
So we need to get the word out.
dan friesen
And also, it means to me that there's a second reason why he started a subsidiary, and this isn't it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There's something else.
He's hiding money or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
There's some other reason why he's created this whole other website that sells mostly the same stuff and then a couple of other things at inflated or non-discounted prices.
And I don't know what that is yet, but I'm going to look into it.
jordan holmes
Furthermore, it should not have taken him a year to put that together.
dan friesen
Jesus Christ, it's like a Squarespace site.
jordan holmes
It seems like it could have been put together a lot quicker than that.
dan friesen
If you go look at it, it's straight up a Squarespace template.
Anyway, let's move along.
Let's get to the show.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So today, like I said, we're talking about December 5th.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And on this episode...
jordan holmes
Oh, it's to keep his wife from getting any of the money.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Ex-wife.
It's to keep his ex-wife from getting any of the money.
dan friesen
It might be some of it.
unidentified
Obviously.
dan friesen
Because she might still have a stake in Infowars.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
But if he starts a new LLC, he doesn't have to have her involved at all.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
You know what?
That's probably...
That might be a piece of it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It might also be why he started News Wars.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's fucking over his ex-wife.
dan friesen
That could be it.
jordan holmes
That's the goal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, well.
dan friesen
Anyway, let's get to the show.
jordan holmes
I get it.
dan friesen
So, something happened on the 5th that...
Or maybe it happened a couple days before.
I don't know.
Alex is mad.
He's real mad.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Maybe it happened a couple days before.
I don't know.
dan friesen
Alex is mad.
He's in a weird headspace, and he's going to spend the next rest of our episode screaming about some stuff.
And I'll just go ahead and tell you one.
jordan holmes
Is it Joy Behar?
dan friesen
It's not.
She does come up, though.
jordan holmes
Of course she does.
Of course she does.
dan friesen
It's close.
jordan holmes
Does he play the clip like five more times?
dan friesen
No, I think he does later in the show, but it's not part of our episode.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So, this is everyone's favorite thing.
This is something that we've got to experience a couple times in the past.
We have our types of Alex that we love.
The esoteric Alex, the drunk Alex.
This is another version of Alex.
That we all can revel in and enjoy.
And it's interrupting a video clip, Alex.
jordan holmes
Oh man, if that's on the drinking game, we're all gonna die, aren't we?
dan friesen
We saw it with the Brian Stalter thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We saw it with his Keith Olbermann coverage.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that was my favorite.
dan friesen
And now I present...
jordan holmes
Did he give...
He gave Keith Olbermann about six words every time, right?
dan friesen
This might be worse.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay.
dan friesen
I now present to you, Interruptee Alex, the Morning Joe edition.
alex jones
The New World Order is dead on arrival.
But that doesn't stop Mika Brzezinski, whose father openly wrote multiple books about how he wanted to get rid of American sovereignty and establish a world government.
dan friesen
Not really.
alex jones
And then she's up there with Joe Scarborough, who mysteriously left Congress after a young intern was found with her brains beat out in his office.
They claimed...
She just fell over and hit her head.
Whatever.
Trump has said there should be an investigation of that.
We've got a new accuser against John Conyers who said, hand up her thigh in church.
The word is that's the end of him.
But the point is, Trump's simply calling for an investigation of individuals that may be compromised and may be blackmailed for things in their background.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
Trump, don't do that.
dan friesen
That's a fucked up thing to say right about now.
Trump just wants people who might have compromising information in their past.
jordan holmes
Trump is launching an investigation into people who absolutely have nothing to do with him and are very unsimilar to him, and I'm sure that there won't be any made-up allegations, and I'm guessing that it's going to be all up and up on the level, right?
dan friesen
Now, in launching this investigation, he's accidentally found that pretty much everybody around him is an unregistered.
They've had to subsequently register as foreign agents, and two of them have been indicted and one flipped.
jordan holmes
So he switched it over to find out who has committed sexual assault, and then he realized that he was a rapist.
alex jones
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
Didn't go great for him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Like, I often think about how great a sitcom Alex would make if we didn't live in the world.
Like, Alex Jones having to do this shit on air and then getting off air and just being like, you know how they made That's My Bush?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That kind of a thing with Alex.
jordan holmes
Or like Home Improvement, where he's got the TV show and he's an asshole and then he gets off stage and he's an asshole.
Right, right.
dan friesen
I think that's more true than that's my Bush version.
So we're going to get more into his specific complaints about Mika and Joe.
And before we do, I would like to be fully clear, they can both fuck off.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I do not care.
dan friesen
We're going to set the record straight on some things that Alex Jones says, but at the same time...
Mika and Joe have a very, very serious role to play in why we're in the world we're in right now.
They did a lot of normalizing for Trump during the campaign.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they legitimized so much bullshit that they're now going like, oh, we were probably...
dan friesen
They're not even saying that.
They're not taking responsibility.
They're just doubling back and almost pretending like they didn't have ass-kissing, sycophantic roles in the lead-up to the election.
So they can fucking fly a kite.
They're terrible.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this gets back to, again, like, oh, look at these Democrats committing crimes, and we're both like, yeah, fucking get them out of here, too.
I don't give a shit.
dan friesen
It's like watching a fistfight between a Nazi and an apartheid apologist.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right.
dan friesen
Let them fight.
Let them fight.
jordan holmes
Whoever lives at the end will still kill.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's his sort of opening volley into the clip.
And then I believe in this next clip, he...
He gets into actually starting the clip of Morning Joe.
And I've cut out nothing.
This is just segmented clips.
jordan holmes
This is the whole shebang.
dan friesen
This is maybe two and a half segments of his show.
A good half an hour, 40 minutes.
And the end will be an amazing punchline.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
But we have Mika Brzezinski.
And we have Joe Scarborough first claiming the president only wants money.
When he's lost massive amounts of money in his businesses and his systems and his golf courses and his hotels since he ran for office three years ago.
And he spent hundreds of millions of his own money.
Then they claim there's all this Russian evidence and the news is closing and they're all going to jail for a very, very long time.
So, again, the full video is up on Infowars.com right now.
And it's total fiction.
From the same swamp monsters that told us that President Trump had ordered Flynn when he was a candidate to go meet with the Russians, which they knew was fake as well.
But they just keep this confidence game going and going and going when they're the ones that are in bed with the Russians on every front, the Democrats, because it's all they've got.
So again, ladies and gentlemen, here is the beginning of the clip where they're breaking All this garbage down.
dan friesen
So I guess he didn't start the clip up yet.
But, you know, this is all stuff we've kind of talked about already.
I don't feel the need to dive into that too much.
Let's just get to the clip here.
jordan holmes
I don't understand his analysis being, I know you are, but what am I?
Like, that's so confusing to me, because it doesn't seem...
Like, it can't hold.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Like, shouldn't he be trying to figure out a new angle on that?
Because it's not gonna last.
dan friesen
No, but it's...
jordan holmes
Like, the Flynn thing...
dan friesen
It's lasting good enough.
jordan holmes
A whistleblower just came out and was like, Flynn said, we'll definitely get rid of all those sanctions for you.
Very illegally said that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, so...
Who would have said, like, of course.
Of course Trump knew about it.
Of course Trump condoned it.
dan friesen
There's no doubt.
jordan holmes
Doesn't matter.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
He committed the crime.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I really think it's a dumb thing to bang a drum about when someone erroneously reports something and then appropriate action is taken.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like, that's not, like, that's a bad example.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's a bad example of fake news, because even Joy Behar, this...
The beginning of this week came on The View and said, look, we got that wrong.
We had a bad report that was delivered to us.
jordan holmes
And they delivered the groan that was just as long?
dan friesen
More or less.
And then Alex, later in this episode, plays the apology and is like, look at this fake apology.
It's like, no, that's a retraction, Alex.
jordan holmes
What are you doing?
dan friesen
That's what someone does when they get something wrong.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Even if it is a fake apology, they're still retracting it.
Like, even if their hearts aren't in it, they're still saying all of the stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So let's get to this here.
Let's get to the clip.
You want to take a bet on how quickly he interrupts?
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with three words, Alex.
dan friesen
Three words.
All right, let's see.
joe scarborough
You know, the campaign, Trump didn't think he was going to win, even on election day.
But it was all about money.
It was all about making contacts.
dan friesen
I'm going to interrupt myself.
It's a while.
He lets it play for a while.
jordan holmes
No, that's way long.
You promised something and you did not deliver, sir.
dan friesen
No, wait for it.
You know Joe Scarborough, when he says Trump didn't think he was going to win even on election day, would have been in a position to know what Trump was thinking around that time because he was interviewing him.
And they had access at that point until right around then.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
When something went bad and Trump started talking about how Mika's face was bleeding and shit.
jordan holmes
That wasn't great.
dan friesen
So I don't know if that's necessarily the truth, but I would imagine Joe Scarborough knows a few things.
unidentified
I don't know.
You've said this before, but I think the most remarkable thing about it is...
joe scarborough
That even now that he's president, it's still all about money.
Like, he's not sitting there thinking what Barack Obama or George W. Bush or Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan thought.
Like, what is my legacy going to be?
He's thinking every day, how can I leverage this so when I get out of the White House, I can make even more money?
mika brzezinski
Knowing them, I think they're shocked that the noose is tightening because I don't know if they were arrogant or just incredibly...
Unself-aware and really dumb about, like, what the job was about.
alex jones
This is just like all the very same people, including these two clowns, on television hundreds of times apiece, saying Trump will never win, he's not really running to win, he's a fraud, Hillary's 15, 20, 30 points ahead.
jordan holmes
I think all of those things are true, though.
dan friesen
At one point during the campaign, Mika...
Came on air and said that someone from Hillary's campaign had vaguely threatened her because of things that she said on air.
So the idea that during the campaign they were saying Trump could never win is just spiritually disingenuous.
And Alex knows that.
jordan holmes
Did you ever read Shattered?
The book about Hillary's campaign?
Like, during the whole thing...
These reporters got full access to the campaign because they were like, well, obviously Hillary's going to win, so it's going to be a celebratory book.
And her campaign was fucking bananas.
It was horrifically bad.
So, yeah, I buy it.
I buy everything about...
Like, normally...
dan friesen
I'm not talking about that.
jordan holmes
No, no, I'm talking about the Mika thing.
Like, when you just said that, I was like, eh, that probably...
Mika probably made that up.
And then I read Shattered, and I was like, no, that sounds right.
dan friesen
I'm not concerned about the truth or falsity of it.
I'm concerned about them, like, where Joe and Mika were.
jordan holmes
It was just a thought I had.
unidentified
No, it's a good thought.
dan friesen
It's an interesting thought.
But more what I was getting at is where they were during the campaign.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's absurd.
jordan holmes
Up their own butts.
dan friesen
Right.
alex jones
Donald Trump's not going to be the president.
Just hammering that lie.
Yeah, if he wasn't going to be president, why was he making 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 campaign stops a day?
dan friesen
Speed.
alex jones
Why was he screaming and yelling at the crew to work harder and to win, win, win?
Why was he so incredibly committed and not backing down even when they put out all his lies about it?
He is the president.
You're a fraud.
And you're the people that have hijacked this country and Trump's delivered, bringing back the prosperity almost instantly.
So he's a winner.
You're a loser.
He told the truth.
You're discredited liars.
Get that through your head, scum.
Let's continue.
dan friesen
So real quick before we continue, as he's about to get back to the clip, one of the things that just came out today I was reading was that the trade gap in terms of imports and exports went up about 8%.
jordan holmes
Right, because he brought back prosperity.
dan friesen
The last month that they had numbers for went up 8%.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the amount of stuff that we're buying from overseas, particularly China, went up, which isn't good.
jordan holmes
Because he's bringing prosperity back.
dan friesen
That's not good.
jordan holmes
That's how you bring prosperity back, right?
dan friesen
Absolutely.
So anyway, let's get back to it.
I mean, we can talk about the stock market numbers.
Certainly, they're up.
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
That's because the stock market has completely divorced itself from the reality of our economy, which is the issue.
That's why we have so many booms and busts all the time.
That's why we had the dot-com boom for a while there, because it had nothing to do with reality.
Once they deregulated the stock market in the 80s, thanks again, Reagan, you fucking pile of shit.
I hope you get Alzheimer's again.
I hope you come back to life and then are born with Alzheimer's disease and have to live out your 88 years.
Anyways, the point being, because they deregulated and they allowed so much speculation and didn't have a separation between investment banks and regular banks, they wound up creating this system that is all about...
Betting.
It's a gambling system, essentially.
So, of course he's raised the stock market.
Everybody's betting that it's going to crash eventually.
Nobody's betting on when, though.
And so that's why we're getting into this situation.
Bitcoin is over 10,000, which is like, it's going to be five in two years.
You guys know it's going to be five.
dan friesen
Right, right.
Crazy.
unidentified
And the other thing is that, like, I mean, the stock market has continued to go up a bit.
jordan holmes
Especially after the tax cuts.
dan friesen
But it's also, if you look at it before then, mysteriously, it went up sharper after that.
But it's all more or less...
jordan holmes
A steady rate of growth since 2009.
dan friesen
Yeah, the trajectory you'd kind of expect.
And so that's more indicative of recovery and speedy growth, if that's what we start to see as we have after the tax cuts and shit.
That's the kind of thing you've got to be really worried about, because we're never going to have the stock market at 100,000 or whatever.
So anyway...
jordan holmes
If the stock market goes up and the homeless population goes up, something's not going right.
dan friesen
It's not great.
So anyway, let's get back to the clip here.
Alex has said, let's get back to it.
So we shall.
jordan holmes
Let's get back to it.
mika brzezinski
...important it was, and how under the microscope every move you made would be.
unidentified
I think they just thought...
alex jones
Oh, it was again.
There is nothing.
There is no collusion.
They've charged people for stuff they did ten years ago that wasn't even illegal, or what an FBI agent that worked for Hillary Clinton and covered up for Hillary Clinton said happened in a conversation versus NSA intercept recordings.
On the word of some Clinton FBI agent that he just said something a little different, but they admit it wasn't collusion.
He was talking to the Russians about crushing ISIS, which the National Security Advisor better be doing.
You are lying scum!
jordan holmes
And crushing sanctions.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, crushing ISIS, but also crushing the sanctions that Obama put on them for tampering with the election.
dan friesen
So Alex's narrative is that with Flynn, they've indicted him because there is a Clinton FBI agent who lied in his notes.
jordan holmes
You can have FBI agents, right?
Right.
Oh, totally.
Yeah, you can just have them.
dan friesen
It's like the Praetorian Guard.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Everybody gets their own FBI agents.
dan friesen
It doesn't really work quite like that.
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
dan friesen
Well, there was a bit of a scandal of some FBI agents sending pro-Hillary texts and messages and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but there were shit tons that sent pro-Tron.
dan friesen
Scandal, by the way.
Scandal.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say.
dan friesen
But be that as it may, his narrative is that people were spying.
And intercepted these phone calls.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Which, if they did, is reasonable because it's the Russian ambassador that they're spying on and Flynn happened to call him.
jordan holmes
Not least of which it is reasonable because they had a warrant to do so.
dan friesen
Right.
And so Alex is claiming that this FBI agent who's in the pocket of Hillary is making these claims and the only thing they have to go on is his notes.
And how do you know you can trust his notes?
As if all FBI investigations and interviews...
Now, notes.
You go to a local precinct, they record fucking everything.
Because of situations like any kind of corruption that could happen, you've got to have backup.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And so that's fucking stupid.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The idea that some pro-Hillary FBI agent just made some notes like, oh, let's indict Flynn because I got these notes weird.
And then he would plead guilty.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Crazy.
jordan holmes
Well, he's a Clinton FBI agent too.
unidentified
Now...
dan friesen
Alex.
jordan holmes
Flynn was a triple deep cover FBI Hillary agent.
And he was, the whole time, he was like, I'm going to plead guilty eventually.
dan friesen
Alex is...
jordan holmes
Wait until I can take Trump down.
dan friesen
Alex really needs to look into the FBI agents that were feeding stuff to, let's say, Giuliani.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Flynn.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
During the campaign.
jordan holmes
Don't understand.
dan friesen
And stuff like that.
But Alex actually does know about all that stuff, but he says that they're the Patriot.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
FBI agents?
jordan holmes
Well, the deep state is fine.
The patriots can do whatever they want because they're doing what they're doing to us, them.
dan friesen
Right.
Speaking of which, this whole thing about the possibility of Eric Prince creating some sort of intelligence organization...
jordan holmes
You know what?
I'm fine with it.
dan friesen
I'm not.
jordan holmes
Do you know why?
Because Eric Prince is a fucking idiot.
If they allow Eric Prince to create a deep state bullshit...
I'm fine with that.
dan friesen
No, because it's going to lead to a lot of murders.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
It's going to be real bad.
jordan holmes
It's hilarious.
dan friesen
That's not hilarious.
jordan holmes
It's pretty funny.
dan friesen
Yeah, our descent into fascism is pretty funny.
So anyway, Alex interrupted, but let's get back to the clip.
He's going to get back to it.
unidentified
They're in flimflam and riff through it.
joe scarborough
And I think they're shocked that the noose is tightening.
And that people might go to jail.
You're exactly right.
unidentified
For the rest of their lives.
alex jones
This is just like Joy Behar, who we're going to play again when we come back.
dan friesen
Of course we are.
alex jones
Celebrating.
Yay!
He lied.
Trump's going to jail.
He worked with the Russians.
They stole the election.
The proof's out.
Flynn admits it.
Fake news.
Con game.
Confidence game, liar.
unidentified
Trump won.
alex jones
You lost.
You're scum.
The economy's coming back, scum.
You're not going to get to ride on our backs anymore and piss on us anymore, Brzezinski.
You and your bloodthirsty father.
jordan holmes
And that's why I've created another subsidiary to avoid...
Oh, never mind.
dan friesen
So then he's like, let's get back to it.
And the fun thing about this is if you watch the video of it, you can see him constantly looking off camera as if for cues.
I think what he's doing is he's checking the how long till commercial to see, like, I got a vampire.
jordan holmes
How long is this clip?
dan friesen
It really, really breaks the illusion that he actually means what he says or is getting worked up in a sincere way.
He's like, I got three minutes.
Fuck.
Fuck.
So he gets back to the clip.
joe scarborough
What's gotten them where they are right now, Josh, is a gross misunderstanding.
alex jones
Of your rogue government.
joe scarborough
The rules of Washington.
The laws surrounding public service.
alex jones
Hit pause again.
Oh, the intelligence agencies have seven ways of Sunday to get back at you?
What's happened to them is they waddled into a group of you guys that have hijacked the country and think it's going to go on forever?
Nothing you do will ever put mainstream media back on top.
Nothing you do, Scarborough.
No one likes you.
Everyone hates you.
You got that stupid former RNC head up there on screen with you.
He got caught in a bunch of corruption.
That's why he's up there with you.
The Republican establishment, the Democrat establishment, here's your eviction notice.
Get out of our lives, scum!
unidentified
I'm fine with that.
alex jones
I'm going to come back and finish up with this on the other side.
It makes me so angry.
Oh, the noose is tightening.
You're all going to jail for a very, very long time.
You didn't know the rules of Washington.
You don't know the rules of history, you little cockroach!
jordan holmes
What are the rules of history, Dad?
dan friesen
I don't know, because he's not saying shit!
He's not saying anything!
jordan holmes
He said nothing!
dan friesen
This literally reminds me of...
Do you remember that Daily Show segment, Even Steven?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Where Steve Carell and Stephen Colbert would debate something.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes!
No!
dan friesen
Yes!
Like, it really is just that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's like, he's playing this video of Mika and Joe, and they say something, and they're like, no!
That's all it is.
You're a loser.
We're winners.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you suck.
There's nothing going on.
There's no collusion.
You guys are an idiot.
Anyways, let's get back to the clip.
alex jones
Trump doesn't know the rules of government.
dan friesen
You don't know the rules of history.
jordan holmes
What are the rules of history?
dan friesen
Race memory.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's how you learn.
Shit, I forgot.
I don't know the rules of history.
jordan holmes
Never trust white people.
dan friesen
That's a good rule of history.
jordan holmes
That's a good rule of history.
dan friesen
Right.
They're up to something.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Don't invade Russia.
dan friesen
Right.
That's a good rule of history.
jordan holmes
No land wars in winter.
Right.
unidentified
Watch out.
dan friesen
No white after Labor Day.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a good rule of history.
dan friesen
Right, right, right, right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you could get wet.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Is that what the rule is about?
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
What was the rule?
Why can't you wear white after Labor Day?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't really...
jordan holmes
When is Labor Day?
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
It's past.
jordan holmes
When is white?
dan friesen
Can't wear white.
jordan holmes
Anyways.
dan friesen
So yeah, I don't know.
He doesn't...
I'll tell you this.
He doesn't really elaborate on the rules of history.
jordan holmes
He doesn't?
dan friesen
No, we don't get to learn what those are.
So here's the next clip.
He comes back from the commercial break and we'll see where he's at.
jordan holmes
Oh, build a wall against Trump.
alex jones
It is so hard for me to play this clip and not get angry.
Because I know how bad Mika Brzezinski is.
I know how bad Joe Scarborough are.
I know what liars they are.
What fake news kingpins they are.
What con men and women they are.
Same folks telling you Trump would never win.
Putting out the fake polls.
I mean, they're just such trash.
And now to have them salivating over a noose around Trump's neck and they're all going to prison for the rest of their lives.
And this whole con game with a bunch of washed up politicos from both parties all nodding their heads like telling a three-year-old Santa Claus is real and Trump's going to prison because he really did something and he got caught because he didn't know how Washington worked.
He didn't know how to kiss everybody's butt.
With all these arrogant mummies up there, and he just wants money, and he's a fake person, and he's evil.
While the economy's coming back, while all these good things are happening, we're getting our sovereignty back.
So many good things.
And here are these sick establishment people that ran the country in the ground, shaking their finger at us, telling us how our champion's evil.
You are going to lose, Bill, and you are enemies of this country.
Now let's go back to the disgusting clip from the beginning since I interrupted it a bunch.
I'm going to try to give limited interruptions here because we need to just, for posterity, look at what true sociopathic pieces of trash are.
Because as Trump calls him, Psycho Joe, and her dad was a famous criminal.
I mean, he talked about how he helped put the Khmer Rouge in that killed millions and all the evil things they did and wrote books about how the elite controls the criminal operations of the planet.
He wants a one-world government.
And these are just parasitic filth, and I pray to God today these people are finally completely out of our lives.
I pray for justice against them.
jordan holmes
I'm fine with that.
alex jones
And I pray for investigations.
I pray for justice.
Now let's play.
Enemies of our family.
Here they are.
dan friesen
So, I mean, that's a great way to set up a clip.
jordan holmes
I pray for investigations.
I don't really know or care what they are into.
I just pray for investigation.
Just give me investigations, God!
dan friesen
He might get what he is praying for.
It's just going to be not great.
jordan holmes
I think that's my main issue with this.
There's no collusion.
There's no none of that stuff.
Because like you have been talking about, there's nowhere to go when...
It happens.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know?
Like, there's nowhere for him to go.
He can't just say...
dan friesen
There's no pivot.
jordan holmes
Whoops!
Whoops-a-doodle!
I was wrong the whole time.
He has to then say, it's a coup.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
It's a dangerous position for him to be in as a propagandist because of his documented at least year and a half long association with Roger Stone and his constant I talk to Trump stuff.
Yep.
When all this breaks, as it will...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There's really no way for him to plead ignorance about anything, and he can't incriminate himself in being a part of this.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so the only thing to do is, you know, this is our duly elected Caesar, as he calls him.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Which again, great.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Love it.
He doesn't understand the rules of history.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's the only place to go, and that's a dangerous, dangerous place to go.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, he's going to have to...
dan friesen
Because his listeners are dumb.
jordan holmes
He has to call for an insurrection.
dan friesen
That's the only...
jordan holmes
Like, if you keep going...
dan friesen
It's the only play.
Yeah.
I hope it's not.
I hope it doesn't come to that, and I hope that there's a de-escalation that's possible, but I just, based on what we see of the alt-right and these people, and how unfairly they play, and how they use bad faith very intentionally, I don't see a situation where things get de-escalated.
I just see it getting worse.
jordan holmes
Well, we're getting to the point where, like, that is the thing with Nazis.
Like, the never-ending fascination of World War II is a...
Unilateral bad guy.
Like, the guy's committing a holocaust.
There's no negotiations.
There's no nothing.
You have to fight and kill them.
So we're getting to that point with our homegrown Nazis, where it's like, you guys are unequivocally bad.
And you're not influenced by anything else, so we're getting to the point where...
dan friesen
Bye!
Simultaneously, though, as that sort of reality is happening, and most people aren't paying attention to it, and it's going to be too late once they start to, you have them and their media channels, and in their echo chambers that they live in, they're doing the exact same thing to Muslims.
So they're creating an unequivocal super bad guy out of a religion.
And then pedophiles, too, but that's sort of in service of demonizing Muslims.
jordan holmes
Well, not all pedophiles.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
They love their own pedophiles, okay?
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
They love the good pedophiles.
dan friesen
The fear of them they're using.
jordan holmes
We need the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor again.
I think that's what's really going on.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
False flag, baby!
jordan holmes
Well, see, there we go.
Do you know who committed the false flag?
Nazis.
dan friesen
Globalists.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
It's the unassailable, ironclad logic of psychosis.
It is just like, whatever thing you think could bring people together, oh, that's a globalist plot.
Like, let's say, because we're, I mean, some piece of evidence is eventually going to fall, and it probably is already discovered and just not public at this point, that there is collusion on a massive scale.
And it's not necessarily...
jordan holmes
It doesn't even matter.
Like, he should already be impeached for breach of the Constitution.
Right.
He has literally broken the Constitution.
dan friesen
False flag.
jordan holmes
Doesn't matter.
You can't make money off of being the president.
dan friesen
Fake news flag.
jordan holmes
Jimmy Carter had to get rid of a peanut farm just in case.
dan friesen
That's because he's a cuck.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
He wasn't an alpha like Trump standing up to this pissant globalist attack.
jordan holmes
You can't.
You can't.
dan friesen
Why not?
jordan holmes
Because law!
dan friesen
Laws are...
jordan holmes
Like, if you're gonna suck the dick of the Constitution all the time...
dan friesen
Jim, you don't understand the Constitution.
Every amendment since the 13th has been unconstitutional.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good point.
dan friesen
Right?
Under common law, if you're a sovereign citizen, those amendments don't mean shit.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Who cares?
It's common law.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
And I think you should still be able to own slaves.
dan friesen
Law of the land says you should.
Every libertarian has to believe that you should be able to.
jordan holmes
Every admiral I've ever known owns slaves.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Fuck all this nonsense.
Anyway, let's get back.
Alex said he was going to restart the clip.
So let's go back to the beginning.
jordan holmes
Let's restart the clip.
dan friesen
See how long it takes to interrupt now.
joe scarborough
You know, the campaign, Trump didn't think he was going to win, even on election day.
Right.
unidentified
But it was all about money.
joe scarborough
It was all about making contacts.
unidentified
We've said this before, but I think the most remarkable thing about it is...
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's because you just played the clip.
joe scarborough
That even now that he's president, it's still all about money.
Like, he's not sitting there thinking, what Barack Obama or George W. Bush or Bill Clinton...
alex jones
Sorry, I just can't do it.
jordan holmes
Can't do it.
alex jones
Trump went to office at 70, the oldest president ever elected, and spent his own money.
That's never Happened before, except for George Washington.
jordan holmes
I bet he paid himself back.
alex jones
We all know what he did, but he did.
He was a good guy.
The founder of the country.
jordan holmes
He was not.
alex jones
These people all went into government, then got rich after.
The Clintons, Joe Scarborough, all of them.
And they're sitting there saying about Trump, what they've done.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they didn't get rich during.
alex jones
Trump's the American model of a successful person that goes to Washington to fix things.
And then leaves.
Not career swamp creatures.
But here's swamp creatures telling you Trump's a swamp creature.
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
Who would know better?
dan friesen
That's how he throws it back to the clip.
jordan holmes
Why can't he just stop starting the clip over again?
He could just let it play.
dan friesen
No, because he wants to...
You know, we've talked about this over and over again.
Alex Jones' comedic stylings is get every fucking drop out of it.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
You bleed the stone, as it were.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And, no, he's like a rabid dog when he gets a days-old clip in his mouth that he has to fake outrage over.
He had so much nothing to go over on this show.
jordan holmes
How old was this clip again?
This was from, like, what, December 2nd?
dan friesen
This was from Tuesday, and I believe it was on Scarborough, maybe the Friday of last week.
I don't think it's current.
I'm not entirely sure, so I'm remiss to give a date.
I can't figure that out.
jordan holmes
I will say one thing, in Alex's defense.
I have never watched that show.
Judging by what we're listening to, it's a shitty show.
dan friesen
It's pretty bad.
jordan holmes
It does not sound interesting at all.
dan friesen
But that's what we talked about at the beginning of this.
jordan holmes
It sounds like they're two assholes just like, you know, he didn't even do the thing.
And the other guy's like, right?
dan friesen
It would be more interesting to me if they turned it into a Shakespearean sort of, what have we wrought?
Like, if they were speaking in, like, ambic pentameter and, like, that would be more interesting.
Like, really trying to deal with, like, we had a role to play in this.
Oh, no.
That sort of thing.
jordan holmes
Alas, poor Scarborough.
dan friesen
If they turned Morning Joe into, like, a Greek tragedy, that would be amazing.
That would be so great.
jordan holmes
I mean, currently it's reminiscent of a Greek tragedy.
dan friesen
All life is in some ways.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So anyway, he gets back to the clip.
joe scarborough
What is my legacy going to be?
He's thinking every day, how can I leverage this so when I get out of the White House, I can make even more money?
unidentified
Knowing that...
alex jones
He's leveraging this thinking, hey, there's a dead intern in my office and I've got to leave Congress or whatever.
How do I leverage this now for 15 years on television spouting disinformation?
Everything he's saying is about him.
Everything he's talking about is about him.
Let's continue.
dan friesen
So let's continue.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I buy that.
dan friesen
But that's not real.
I mean, that's not...
That's not reality.
jordan holmes
Scarborough is an opportunistic piece of shit, and we do have an issue with the revolving door between Washington and the private sector and lobbyists and all of that shit.
dan friesen
Undoubtedly.
jordan holmes
I'm on board with that.
dan friesen
Undoubtedly.
jordan holmes
But again, not during.
It's the during part.
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
Look, Obama's going to make so much more money than he did while he was president.
But it's after he was president.
He wasn't using the office of the presidency to make money.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
He's leveraging the fact that he was president to make money, which is not necessarily a huge distinction to make.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
It's just a really, really sad one.
dan friesen
It is a big distinction, though.
But I want to talk more about this idea that Joe Scarborough killed his intern.
jordan holmes
I think that's true.
dan friesen
Because he's now brought it up twice and it is time for us to discuss this.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
This is about a lady named Lori Klausutis.
She was 28 years old and she was an intern at Joe Scarborough's office when he was a representative in Florida.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
She died.
jordan holmes
From Scarborough-related injuries?
dan friesen
Alex says, earlier in that clip, he says that she had her head bashed in, and he's going to talk more about that.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
There was an investigation.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And what they found was that she had an irregularity in her heart that caused her to pass out.
And when she passed out, she hit her head on a desk.
Now...
The medical examiner has said that she would have died whether she hit her head on the desk or not.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Most likely, although because of the timing...
jordan holmes
It doesn't sound great.
dan friesen
The blood force trauma did end up killing her, but she would have died from the heart...
I don't know, aneurysm?
That's not it.
jordan holmes
No, that's in the brain.
dan friesen
Arrhythmia, that's it.
There was a regular...
...beating of her heart that flared up, and it's just something that can happen.
It doesn't even have to be diagnosed before.
I mean, it is something that often gets missed.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And people who are otherwise healthy...
jordan holmes
All of a sudden die.
dan friesen
Well, she was even like a...
She would run like four and eight Ks and stuff like that.
And it is...
That doesn't...
Oh, she ran a bunch, so why would her heart...
jordan holmes
Sounds like a big cover-up.
dan friesen
Yeah, totally.
So Alex Jones likes to present the idea that what happened was that she was hit in the head with something and that she was murdered.
The medical examiner has been very clear about this, that that's not possible based on the way her head trauma was.
So when you get hit by something, like if a foreign object hits you in the head, what ends up happening is you will have a...
Bruising, like a hematoma or whatever, you'll have damage on the same side of your head.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because your head will go along with...
However the hit comes.
jordan holmes
And then, of course, the foreign agent has to register retroactively.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
But if you fall and hit a stationary object, what will happen is you'll have a mark on this side externally, and you'll have bruising on your brain on the other side, because your head will stop motion.
Your head is going in one direction, and the inertia will cause your brain to hit the side of your head.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it bounces that way.
Exactly.
dan friesen
And that is the case in her case.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
So for Alex to really make this argument, I guess you'd have to throw her head onto the desk.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
Which seems inconvenient.
jordan holmes
Well, maybe.
Maybe Joe Scarborough.
Joe Scarborough.
Joe Scarborough.
Okay.
Put her head in a vice.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
And then hit her.
That way, it would look like it was reasonable for her to have fallen.
Don't you know that Joe Scarborough famously had vices all over his office?
dan friesen
I think he worked for Vice.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So the thing is...
jordan holmes
He was a vice officer.
dan friesen
The other piece of it, too, is just, like, the heart condition is not, like...
It's very clear.
You can tell that from a post-mortem autopsy.
You can tell, oh, her heart stopped beating before death.
And so that would indicate to you this is an arrhythmia that caused her to pass out.
Also, two witnesses have said that she was feeling weird or ill that day.
It could be indicative of some underlying thing that...
Flared up.
jordan holmes
Well, it was a lot like in Temple of Doom.
dan friesen
Also, the two weaknesses were not related to Scarborough.
One of them was just her mail carrier.
jordan holmes
Not important.
dan friesen
It is important.
jordan holmes
So, he pulls out the heart, right, and then notices that it's not beating.
He's like, dude, you gotta get checked out.
Puts it back in there and sends him off to the doctor.
dan friesen
Right.
Yeah.
So this is some nonsense.
Also, Joe Scarborough was in Washington when this happened.
This was at his Florida office.
But then again, Alex would just say, oh, yeah, because he's an important guy.
He'd have someone do it for him.
jordan holmes
Have you seen The Prestige?
dan friesen
I have.
jordan holmes
Joe Scarborough has a secret twin.
dan friesen
Okay.
That's possible.
Anyway, Joe Scarborough didn't kill his intern.
This is a real tragedy.
And it happened.
Alex likes to present also, why wasn't there an investigation into this?
There was.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It didn't get a lot of press coverage.
And I can tell you exactly why.
It happened two months before 9-11.
jordan holmes
Oh!
dan friesen
So when the investigations were getting going...
jordan holmes
So Joe Scarborough committed 9-11 as a cover-up?
dan friesen
No, because...
jordan holmes
No, that's obvious.
dan friesen
Because Gary Condit did.
See, that's the other thing.
It happened around the same time that Gary Condit was being accused of murdering Chandra Levy, which he also didn't do.
And, like, pre-9-11, there were...
Weirdly, a couple of interns for representatives.
jordan holmes
A lot of interns dying before 9-11.
dan friesen
Well, just the two.
And Gary Condit's one was way creepier and much more definitely murder.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Whereas this one was very much an accident.
jordan holmes
It was really weird how she fell and hit her head on his dick.
That was really strange.
dan friesen
So Scarborough got less press, but there was an investigation and people...
Determined it was an accident.
So Alex presenting it as an unsolved mystery, and why didn't they ever do an investigation?
He is literally just mirroring things that Trump has tweeted.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That are not true.
It's absolutely not true.
But it's still...
jordan holmes
She did have a note on her that said, Call Larry Nichols.
dan friesen
But also, still, fuck Joe Scarborough.
jordan holmes
Fuck Joe Scarborough.
dan friesen
He didn't kill his intern, but fuck him.
jordan holmes
He doesn't need to kill an intern to make me want to fucking murder him.
dan friesen
Exactly.
So Alex said, we're going to get back to the clip.
Let's get back to the clip.
mika brzezinski
I think they're shocked that the noose is tightening, because I don't know if they were arrogant or just...
alex jones
Actually, Trump thinks it's all a big, giant joke and keeps saying collusion.
What collusion is there?
We worked with Russia to crush ISIS.
That was all public.
We asked them not to put sanctions on Israel.
Oh, we're so evil.
jordan holmes
Oh, by the way, the Trump campaign colluded with Israel as well.
dan friesen
That's what he just said.
jordan holmes
That's a...
Proven thing.
dan friesen
And, uh...
jordan holmes
That is also illegal!
dan friesen
And Trump didn't, like...
Alex is referencing his Assad, Russia, and the good people in our military narrative.
jordan holmes
Which everybody knows because it's so obviously true.
dan friesen
Trump has never said that, nor would he, because it's nonsense.
But Alex is pretending...
jordan holmes
I think you're underestimating our fearless leader, Trump.
dan friesen
Alex is pretending that that narrative is a piece of the Flynn stuff, and it's not.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
It is not.
And it's all completely transparent.
alex jones
That's what national security advisors do.
They are shocked that the entire Clinton apparatus could have Mueller literally up its rear end with Comey.
I was doing a proctology exam, and they all worship each other, and they're all involved in incredible corruption and collusion with Russia, China, you name it, selling the country out.
They're the globalists trying to kill the recovery.
They turn around and say, those of us that are retaking the country, we're the foreign power.
Yeah, right.
Everything you say about us is what you are.
You are the enemy.
You are indicted in the public.
You are indicted in front of God, and nothing you're ever going to do is going to change that trash.
Let's continue.
I'm sorry.
I just can't shut up, Darian.
jordan holmes
No, that's true.
dan friesen
I appreciate the apology.
jordan holmes
He said at least one true thing so far.
dan friesen
How long do you think it's going to take him to interrupt again?
jordan holmes
Ooh, six seconds.
dan friesen
Let's see.
Get the countdown ready.
jordan holmes
Okay.
mika brzezinski
Incredibly unselfaware and really dumb about, like, what the job is about.
unidentified
No!
alex jones
Incredibly unselfaware.
jordan holmes
Nailed it.
alex jones
Boy, you said it.
Have you seen your writings?
Have you seen how you have no credibility?
Have you seen how you're known to be fake news?
How you're a laughing stock joke going bankrupt?
Yes, you are incredibly unselfaware.
Let's continue.
dan friesen
So he's going to get back to the clip.
I pulled up the most recent ratings from Adweek.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is the ratings for the month of November.
And there's actually something really interesting that's going on.
MSNBC has, I'm just going to read here from the article.
MSNBC managed to accomplish a feat this past month that its rivals could not.
It delivered audience growth from a presidential election month.
Wait, wait.
jordan holmes
They have more ratings than they did during the election.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
I think it might have something to do with a reverse election going on.
One wherein a president is no longer president anymore.
dan friesen
In November 2017, MSNBC, which skews progressive and is anti-Trump in primetime, was...
jordan holmes
It would be lovely if it did skew progressive, but it turns out they're just pussies.
dan friesen
Right, right.
That's a little...
I'm reading from the text, not editorializing.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
dan friesen
I'm play-by-play your color.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Pause the clip.
I got something to say.
dan friesen
So MSNBC was plus 26% in total primetime viewers and plus 4% in primetime in the target demo.
It was also plus 28% in total day viewers and plus 7% in the total day demo versus November 2016.
So that's big.
That's pretty fucking big.
When we talk about in the demo, that's adults 25 years old to 54, which is what marketers view as the most...
jordan holmes
It's called disposable income.
dan friesen
The network was once again led by Rachel Maddow.
The top progressive voice on cable news posted year-over-year audience growth and defeated time slot rival Sean Hannity in the advertiser-friendly 25 to 54 demographic.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Ha ha!
jordan holmes
I don't care.
dan friesen
I don't care either, but it's literally the opposite of what Alex is saying.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, of course it is, because even Fox News viewers are starting to get like...
Why are you guys talking about the only thing worth talking about?
Why are you telling us a story about whatever Tucker Carlson had for dinner?
Dude, guys, the president committed crimes.
At least lie about it.
At least lie to us.
dan friesen
At least Alex is doing that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So here, I'm going to scroll down a little bit further in this thing about NBC ratings.
And then there was Morning Joe.
Not only did Joe and Mika finish ahead of New Day, their CNN rival, but they delivered the most watched month ever on the network in the 6 to 9 a.m. slot, averaging 1.1 million total viewers.
jordan holmes
Gross.
dan friesen
Gross, but totally the opposite of what Alex says.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
He's like, have you checked your ratings lately?
They're great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're great.
Fuck off.
It's not as good a ratings as Fox and Friends or whatever, but that's not going to be...
You can't compete with that.
jordan holmes
You gotta get your morning racism in.
I mean, there's no fighting against that.
dan friesen
You can't compete with the Deuce Man?
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
Steve Deucey.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Finger guns.
jordan holmes
Those are maybe the dumbest people on the planet.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
The Fox and Friends people are staggering in their stupidity.
dan friesen
And...
jordan holmes
Oh, they're so bad at what they do.
dan friesen
They seem to have no chemistry whatsoever.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
Anyway, let's get back to this.
jordan holmes
It's endlessly fascinating.
It's like watching an MST3K movie without the commentary, just watching that, just going like, who wrote this?
This is so poorly written.
dan friesen
They have producers, I think.
jordan holmes
Don't you guys have somebody telling you to stop doing this?
dan friesen
Back to the clip.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
It was...
jordan holmes
You know what?
unidentified
Pause the clip.
...under the microscope every move you made would be.
I think they just...
alex jones
I'm going to start over at the beginning, but...
Start over at the beginning.
This is the anatomy of fraud.
dan friesen
What an asshole.
alex jones
They are in shock that every person...
They haven't even said anything.
...membership or every person that ever bought a condo is being harassed going back 25 years, and they're going back...
jordan holmes
Tell me about the ones who buy condos.
alex jones
Nothing to do with Russia.
Nothing to do with Russia on anything.
dan friesen
Well, you accidentally just brought up a couple things that are important.
Like, one of the reasons Alex is presenting it is they're harassing all of Trump's Gulf members, and that's not entirely true.
jordan holmes
But I am also fine with that.
dan friesen
Really, the things you hear about are the ideas that people are paying for access to him at the clubs and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Do you mean the crimes?
dan friesen
Right, that would be a crime.
jordan holmes
Do you mean the crimes?
dan friesen
And the idea that he's doing official state business at a private club that he charges membership to.
jordan holmes
Oh, do you mean the crimes?
dan friesen
Right, so that's really more what they're talking about.
jordan holmes
Right, the crimes.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then the idea of condo sales.
There are multiple instances that you can look into of people who have mysteriously bought condos way above market price, not moved into them, and then sold them like two years later.
They happen to be people with mysterious ties to Russian mobs and what have you.
jordan holmes
I don't think there's anything to look into there.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
No, I doubt it.
dan friesen
But that's the stuff that they're talking about.
jordan holmes
I think a giant international money laundering scheme is really small in the big picture.
You know?
dan friesen
Kind of.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's actually true.
dan friesen
But be that as it may, that's the stuff they're investigating.
And Alex presenting it as harassing Gulf members and people in condos is, I mean, it's technically accurate, but it's spiritually unfair.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, anyway.
alex jones
And they want to put Flynn in jail for working with Turkey.
dan friesen
Well.
alex jones
I mean, that's all they've got.
So, yes, the incredible witch hunt.
Microscope, and you're so powerful with your little Mueller who's like your king, your swamp god, your unelected creature that you bet everything on, where he waddles around in public acting powerful.
We're so impressed with you.
jordan holmes
No, America hates the swamp.
alex jones
They hate the Democrats.
They hate you.
They hate the Republican leadership.
They know you're a fraud, and you're just waking them up.
So keep doing what you're doing, you arrogant tart.
Let's continue.
dan friesen
Seems like that was a gendered attack in some ways.
jordan holmes
You arrogant tart.
dan friesen
But again, you know, people do hate the Democrats and the Republicans right now.
And rightfully so.
jordan holmes
Deservedly so, yes.
You guys have all collectively failed us to an extent we've never seen before.
dan friesen
So we can agree and disagree simultaneously.
And we can move along, because Alex said he's got to restart the clip again.
jordan holmes
Got to start the clip over.
dan friesen
Start from the top.
unidentified
You know...
joe scarborough
The campaign, Trump didn't think he was going to win on election day.
But it was all about money.
alex jones
That intern didn't know she was going to go to that office that night and get her brains knocked out.
I bet she never knew she was going to your offices that day to die that night.
And if she's looking down from heaven, she probably didn't know how she just fell over and killed herself.
And when the cops were like, she fell over and hit her head and died.
Okay, so she probably didn't know she was going to die either.
I'm sorry.
Let's start it over.
jordan holmes
I don't understand how that's a rebuttal.
dan friesen
Also, you should apologize, Alex.
You're being fucking really out of line.
She has a family.
She has a name.
That's not just some prop for you to use in attacking...
jordan holmes
Yeah, what do you think this is?
Sandy Hook?
Come on.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
But there's easier ways to attack Joe Scarborough.
jordan holmes
So many.
dan friesen
That don't involve lying about someone else's tragic death.
jordan holmes
You could even go with, he's got shitty glasses.
That's all you need.
dan friesen
His head looks fucked up.
jordan holmes
It's weird.
dan friesen
Right.
That's soft, but I'd accept it way more than...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'd be way happier than that.
dan friesen
But this goes back to really...
What is so terrible about Alex, I mean, beyond just the lying, it's lying in service of cruelty.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, he's a really, really cruel person.
jordan holmes
Because he's a sociopath.
dan friesen
And he would love, like, he could make better points and probably get further with his arguments if he would go with substance.
But it wouldn't allow him to be cruel.
And because he loves being cruel, he's got to throw in, you bash that girl's head in.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Ocean's Eleven type scam.
All right?
Here's what we're going to do.
Alex has to go to court-ordered therapy, right?
As part of his divorce settlement?
dan friesen
I don't think anymore, but yeah, he did for a bit.
I think it's probably over.
jordan holmes
Alright, so we kidnap his therapist.
Then you stand in as the replacement therapist.
Give him the psychopath test.
And you're not beholden to the doctor-patient confidentiality.
Because you're a fake.
They can't.
They can't.
They can't hold you to laws.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
So, then we release that he is a psychopath because of fucking course he is.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
And that solves all of our problems.
dan friesen
We don't even need to do that.
jordan holmes
We don't even need to call Mueller.
dan friesen
We don't need to do any of this.
Just listen to his show.
He's a fucking psychopath.
jordan holmes
Nah, nah.
We gotta get that test.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
We gotta get John Ronson in here.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex apologized for that interruption, and so let's get back to the clip.
I'm sure he's gonna make it a good long while.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
You know...
joe scarborough
The campaign, Trump didn't think he was going to win, even on election day.
But it was all about money.
It was all about making contacts.
unidentified
We've said this before, but I think the most remarkable thing about it is that even now that he's president, it's still all about money.
joe scarborough
He's not sitting there thinking what Barack Obama or George W. Bush or Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan thought.
Like, what is my legacy going to be?
He's thinking every day, how can I leverage this?
alex jones
You know, if there was an intern here, a young female intern who got her brains bashed out one night, you think there'd just be no investigation about it?
Oh, she'd knock her brains out.
I'm just asking.
Why doesn't Joe even respond to the president bringing that up about him and say, hey, this is a bunch of bull.
I'm sure it is.
I mean, why not talk about the intern?
Tell us her name.
Tell her what she hit her head on.
jordan holmes
And show us the birth certificate.
alex jones
Let's go back to Mr. Joe.
Here he is.
dan friesen
Nice try to come up with an insult there at the end there.
jordan holmes
Also, I think he's planning on killing an intern.
dan friesen
Daria's going to go.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Daria's got it.
dan friesen
So her name was Lori Klosutis.
You can look that up.
You can find it.
Joe Scarborough did talk about this 16 years ago when it happened.
I would imagine that when Trump...
I accused him, basically, through his language on Twitter, of being part of an unsolved mystery.
jordan holmes
When did that happen?
dan friesen
I don't remember.
It was fairly recently.
But he's brought up Psycho Joe and stuff like that after they stopped playing ball with him or whatever.
It's a petty childhood squabble that's being played out in public.
But be that as it may, I have a really good reason why Joe Scarborough would not respond to this.
Decency.
Because he's addressed it already.
There was an investigation 16 years ago when it happened.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the idea of him now bringing it up and being like, her name was Lori Klausudis, and I didn't kill her, and you can look at the blah blah blah, that's disrespectful to her fucking family.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The idea that you would bring that up into the public sphere, again, runs the risk of re-traumatizing a grieving family who's moved on with their lives, but it's still something that would hurt.
We don't want to see your daughter being used as a political...
Chip can be just thrown around.
jordan holmes
I'm guessing it's not fun.
dan friesen
That's gotta be terrible.
And she wasn't like a child, but she wasn't old at all.
She was 28 years old.
You don't expect to lose your daughter to a tragic accident.
jordan holmes
At this point, safety.
Because if Joe Scarborough brings up her name, that family's getting death threats, that family's getting fucked over.
dan friesen
Totally.
There'll be some sort of, like, you're involved in a cover-up for Joe Scarborough.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Crisis actor and the whole fucking bullshit thing.
dan friesen
All that stuff, yeah, Prop Dude has brought up a great point.
Like, what's happened to Seth Rich's family?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Or any of the families of Sandy Hook?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Any of this stuff, it's not appropriate.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
InfoWars is halfway a machine to just ruin people's lives.
dan friesen
If somebody died at InfoWars, yeah, there would be an investigation.
In the same way there is when anyone dies.
jordan holmes
And you probably would have killed them.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Roid rage.
jordan holmes
There would be a solid 60-40 chance that you murdered them.
dan friesen
And she didn't have her head bashed in.
It's important to be distinct with the language.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because that implies an actor in it.
That implies that someone did something, as opposed to an arrhythmic heartbeat ended up making her pass out and hitting her head on a desk.
That is not your head bashed in.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's fucked up.
jordan holmes
I mean, what you should say is she had her heart broken.
dan friesen
Certainly.
You can say that.
Let's move on.
Alex does not restart.
jordan holmes
You did not.
dan friesen
Alex does not restart.
jordan holmes
You did not appreciate that.
I respect that.
I respect that.
dan friesen
So here we go.
joe scarborough
To the White House.
I can make even more money.
mika brzezinski
Knowing them, I think they're shocked that the noose is tightening.
Because I don't know if they were arrogant or just incredibly unselfaware and really dumb about what the job was about, how important it was, and how under the microscope every move you made would be.
I think they just thought they'd go in there and flim-flam and riff through it.
joe scarborough
And I think they're shocked that the noose is tightening.
alex jones
That people might go to jail.
joe scarborough
You're exactly right.
For the rest of their lives.
What's gotten them where they are right now, Josh, is a close misunderstanding of the rules of Washington.
jordan holmes
I'm bored by both sides.
unidentified
I'm bored by the show and I'm bored by what Alex is doing.
joe scarborough
Coupled with the arrogance of...
New York developers thinking, and I know, I talked to them, thinking people in Washington were just dumb, local yokels.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe scarborough
And they, just get out of our way.
unidentified
They don't know how to do that.
joe scarborough
Don't, don't, don't wait, no, no, no, listen, listen, you guys.
jordan holmes
Is that what the show is?
dan friesen
You heard the music coming on, and that's why Alex hasn't interrupted again, because he looked at the clock and was like, I can play this out.
So let's just get to the commercial break.
jordan holmes
Is that what Morning Joe is?
dan friesen
It's terrible.
jordan holmes
They're just talking?
Like, they're doing what we're doing, but for a million billion dollars.
dan friesen
Basically, yeah.
jordan holmes
And they're doing it worse than we are.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it's fun.
They're married.
jordan holmes
They're married?
dan friesen
You didn't know that Mika and Joe got married?
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
dan friesen
Yeah, they're married.
unidentified
Why are they?
dan friesen
They got married!
They got married within the last year.
They apparently were having an affair for quite a while.
jordan holmes
That's not going to last.
dan friesen
No, probably not.
jordan holmes
Joe's going to cheat on you.
joe scarborough
Come on, you're just a bunch of hicks in Washington, D.C. Let the big city developers come in.
We're going to show you.
They wouldn't listen to anybody.
And they stumbled into one possible crime after another possible crime, and then Donald Trump goes into his mode.
He thinks taking on Bob Mueller is the same as taking on Rosie O'Donnell.
jordan holmes
That's that?
dan friesen
Yeah, and Alex fades out to commercial along with it.
Good luck.
Keep drinking.
jordan holmes
Keep dreaming.
Keep drinking.
dan friesen
It sounded like he said keep drinking.
jordan holmes
I think on the second one he said keep drinking.
alex jones
Scumbag.
dan friesen
But Scarborough does make a good point at the end there.
He is treating this like a congressional investigation is just another public feud that he has to negotiate through savvy PR.
jordan holmes
Well, the congressional investigation absolutely is.
It's the FBI one that might matter.
dan friesen
Right.
That's not Rosie.
So here we go.
This next clip is Alex sort of doing a post-mortem because he's done interrupting now.
He interrupted that a total of, let's see, one, two, three, four, five.
Six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve times.
jordan holmes
Twelve times?
How long did he get through the clip?
dan friesen
Maybe 35 seconds.
jordan holmes
Maybe 35 seconds?
I was going to say, how much did we listen to?
dan friesen
He restarted it three times.
Right.
And so now here's his post-mortem.
alex jones
Well, if there's a queen of fake news, if there's a collection of...
dan friesen
You really think he's going to say Mika Brzezinski?
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
You really do.
jordan holmes
That's what it's about.
dan friesen
Because this is right after.
jordan holmes
Is it RuPaul?
alex jones
Harpies, like something out of a Greek tragedy fighting over the all-seeing eye, then it's got to be The View, and it's got to be led by Joy Behar.
So coming up, Joy Behar gives a fake apology for fake news she put out last week.
So you cannot make this stuff up.
That is coming up in a moment.
But just briefly getting back to what I spent two segments on, the morning Joe salivating about nooses around Trump's neck.
jordan holmes
I've got to restart the clip.
dan friesen
He's misrepresenting that even, too.
unidentified
Because they're talking about a metaphorical noose of the investigation.
dan friesen
He's trying to pretend that they're like, oh, they want to hang him in the streets.
That's you.
jordan holmes
That's me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
See, again, we should have our own morning show.
God, we would crush a morning show.
dan friesen
I'm very cranky in the mornings.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
No, I want to kill everybody.
dan friesen
All right.
alex jones
And they're all going to jail for the rest of their lives.
And the last part I didn't have time to get to because of the break, they're like, the Constitution.
You know, we've got constitutional rules in D.C. These are the people that sold us out to foreign secret multinational combines.
dan friesen
Joe Scarborough did?
alex jones
Yeah.
These are the people that de-industrialized the country.
They gave the Panama Canal to the Chi-Coms.
dan friesen
Chi-Coms.
alex jones
Flooded open borders.
Said they wanted to get rid of our sovereignty.
I mean, these people are the plague.
jordan holmes
How do you even get rid of sovereignty?
alex jones
It comes to sovereignty and prosperity.
And then they sit there, the daughter of a famous evil wizard, Zbigniew Brzezinski, literally, a political demon who engineered much of the modern New World Order.
dan friesen
That doesn't exist.
alex jones
And then you've got...
Morning Joe up there with all his skeletons in his closet and all his bull and all his no ratings and the joke that he is.
dan friesen
So all of that stuff isn't true.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I mean, you can say that Joe Scarborough is a joke.
That's fine.
But we've already discussed the ratings aren't true.
The murder isn't true.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Everything he's saying about Zbigniew Brzezinski is misrepresenting his writings.
I mean, he didn't.
jordan holmes
He was a wizard.
He was very similar to John Doe.
dan friesen
I don't have the energy.
jordan holmes
He's got the long beard.
He's got the hat.
dan friesen
You should say Uri Geller.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to talk about Uri Geller.
I'm talking about the original wizard.
dan friesen
The idea, though.
Why don't you go with Merlin?
jordan holmes
Oh, he's a magician.
No, John Doe was the guy.
He was the guy who originally...
Okay, he had the big long beard.
He was the guy who created the...
dan friesen
The archetype?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Okay, fine.
I didn't get the reference.
I apologize.
You should have.
jordan holmes
I don't think John Doe might...
I don't think that is the right name, but it could be.
unidentified
Could be.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Could be.
Pretty sure it's John Doe.
dan friesen
Okay.
That might be why I didn't get the reference, because it might not be the reference.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because it might not be the right name.
dan friesen
So the stuff about Zbigniew Brzezinski, though, when he's talking about sovereignty, what he's really talking about is the idea of international cooperation in a meaningful way.
When he talks about the UN controls...
unidentified
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
dan friesen
What he's really talking about is we don't have the right to be cruel anymore.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because when you talk about the U.N. dictating the terms of immigration and stuff like that and how the U.S. just pulled out of that, one of the reasons that that existed was because it needs to.
There are millions of people in war-torn countries who are the victims of genocide.
jordan holmes
When Alex talks about sovereignty, he does not mean sovereignty over our country.
He means sovereignty over the rest of the world and whatever the fuck we want to do with it.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
He is talking about sovereignty for our country, but it's never a positive sovereignty.
Because Alex and Trump would like you to think, we just need more control to be able to be better to you.
See, the thing is, we don't like the idea of the UN dictating that you should take this many immigrants and these are the regions where people are in peril and what have you.
They don't want to be told that.
They like to present the idea of, we're going to get rid of this and then we're going to take more people.
Or with the taxes.
We're going to get rid of all these regulations and then we're going to do even better for you.
We're going to get rid of the Clean Air Act and then our air is going to be so much cleaner because we have an incentive.
jordan holmes
Free market.
Free market!
dan friesen
Right, they present it like that, but the sovereignty they're really talking about is the sovereignty to say fuck off to everybody, and we don't care, we want you to die.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
That's the sovereignty that is being defended and protected by Alex, and that's not my sovereignty.
My sovereignty does not play that game.
jordan holmes
Hashtag not all sovereignty.
dan friesen
Right.
The sovereignty that I want is the power to do things that help everybody and save people and ideally resolve conflicts, although we have not done a great job of that.
jordan holmes
No, that's not going great.
dan friesen
No, but Alex's plan is going to be worse.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
dan friesen
Well, because today even Trump announced that he's going to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm starting to find...
we're moving well into parody.
Like, we're moving beyond whatever.
Right.
unidentified
Why would you do that?
jordan holmes
Why would you do that now?
Sovereignty.
You're an idiot.
dan friesen
Sovereignty.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
It's going to...
jordan holmes
Israel doesn't even really want their capital to be Jerusalem.
Do you know what the...
dan friesen
I don't like your accidental pronunciation there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Jerusalem.
That's all right.
I apologize for that.
No, even fucking Netanyahu publicly is like, this is a great decision, but I'm sure privately he's like, fucking, we don't need this right now.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Like, we can do this, but not right now.
Are you shitting me?
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's a lot of trouble.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Fucking stupid.
It's amazingly stupid.
dan friesen
We have the sovereignty to do this, but in doing so, what you're doing is you're prescribing a lot of people to a very miserable existence.
Because when you do that, what you're doing is you are...
Is my mic off?
No, it's just my headphones.
What you're doing is you're depriving...
Palestinians have a lot of legitimacy.
jordan holmes
Existence?
Life?
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
The right to live anywhere?
dan friesen
And the claims that they have dual ownership of the contested lands.
What you will end up also doing is emboldening the people who are making settlements.
You will embolden people encroaching on Palestinian land and killing them.
So that's what is going to be the end result of this.
That's the sovereignty that is...
Desired by Alex and Trump.
And that's not good.
That's not good for the world.
jordan holmes
No, it's terrible.
dan friesen
And it's not good for us to sit here and say, Israel shouldn't exist.
Because that's not right either.
No.
It shouldn't be an apartheid state.
What they're doing is wrong, but that doesn't mean the reverse is right.
If that makes sense.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
It's a very, very...
jordan holmes
You go back to it, but this is a non-zero-sum game.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And they're instead treating it like there's only a winner or loser.
And that's why we're fucked.
dan friesen
Well, it goes back to the beginning where Trump is a winner, you're a loser.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
dan friesen
It's just that mentality.
jordan holmes
You know what's interesting?
Do you think that, like...
Is there an argument to be made that this is a purely religious decision?
On Trump's part.
Or on whomever's part.
dan friesen
Handering to a religion.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Because there's no foreign policy wherein this is improving our relations with anybody.
dan friesen
I think you could make the argument...
jordan holmes
So this is a belligerent religious bullshit decision, right?
dan friesen
I think you could make that argument, but I think there would probably be some people who would...
Like, have a foreign policy position that would say it's a good idea.
I disagree with them, but I think that there's some people who would say, this place has been, you know, it's been too long that it's been a source of conflict.
Better to burn it down than to allow it to continue like this.
Put a light of fire under it and, you know, there's going to be a lot of people who get burned, but...
jordan holmes
So that's, so your interpretation of that kind of foreign policy...
dan friesen
No, I'm saying that someone might make that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm not saying that that is what's motivating it, but I could easily see somebody saying something like that.
jordan holmes
So somebody's argument for this would be, yeah, let's start some shit?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
More or less.
I mean, it's like, I don't know, you've got a building that there's a lot of problems in, just knock it down.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Instead of trying to fix the problems.
jordan holmes
Like in the movie Dread.
dan friesen
Or in Trump's past.
jordan holmes
Full circle, baby.
dan friesen
So let's get to the rest of this clip.
alex jones
Telling us that Trump was arrogant and Trump didn't care about the little people and Trump came into D.C. like it was flyover country.
See, they know Trump went to flyover country.
He loves flyover country.
He empowered flyover country.
So everything is scientifically out.
Say he's against flyover country.
Compare D.C. to grassroots common people.
And this big out-of-towner that came in.
Big fancy New Yorker.
Trump's family came into New York.
Just like they came into D.C. and kicked butt.
But again, they take all of Trump's strengths and turn them around into weaknesses.
That's why it takes me so long to go over a collection of garbage like that.
dan friesen
So Alex is saying that Trump's family came into New York and kicked butt.
Fred Trump, his dad, was born in the Bronx.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they came into it.
dan friesen
Trump was born in New York.
jordan holmes
Came into it, kicked butt.
dan friesen
Their father, Frederick Trump.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you want to go into a literal interpretation of kicked butt, I feel like denying black people the ability to live in your buildings, screwing over everybody that you can, not paying contractors after the fact, going bankrupt over and over and over again.
Having your daddy bail you out.
dan friesen
Kicking butt.
jordan holmes
Becoming a reality TV show star.
dan friesen
Kicking butt.
jordan holmes
Because your actual business is nothing.
Lying about being a billionaire when in reality your finances are almost certainly all debt.
You know, being a front man for mob activity.
Yeah.
I think those are all the literal interpretations of kicking butt, right?
dan friesen
Totally.
And so Trump's dad was born in the Bronx, lived there his whole life, lived in New York his whole life.
Trump's father's father is Trump's grandfather.
Frederick Trump was born in Bavaria.
But then, at a fairly early age...
jordan holmes
Always gets back to the fucking Germans.
dan friesen
At a fairly early age, I believe at about 16, 17 or so, after he had...
So a bunch of his family, five of the six children in the family, they went to work on the grape fields that the family had in Bavaria.
But Frederick was deemed too sickly to work in the fields, and so he got an apprenticeship at a barber shop.
And at 16 or so, he ran off to the United States.
And he said that he agreed with his mother that he should go to America.
However, years later, family members said that he departed secretly at night and left his mother a note.
Which is interesting because by that point...
jordan holmes
So being a gigantic lying pussy is built into that whole family life.
dan friesen
By the time he was 14 and became an apprentice, his father died and he left the family in severe debt with medical expenses and shit.
jordan holmes
That sounds great.
dan friesen
So he abandoned his mother.
God, you dig ever further back and it's like, liar?
jordan holmes
Liar.
Piece of shit.
Racist piece of shit.
Liar.
Lying liar.
The liarist.
dan friesen
And he started prostitution dens.
jordan holmes
Well, that's just good business, though.
I don't begrudge a man starting a prostitution ring.
dan friesen
One of the other things, too, is he'd make claims on land and then didn't own the land, but didn't care.
And he would build stuff on the land.
So he'd build like a housing thing on the land in order to cheat the miners, sort of.
Because the people would be mining there and need somewhere to stay.
And so he'd charge them to stay there.
on the off chance that they found gold, he would have placed a claim of ownership on all the mineral rights.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Although that might not be, like, it might not have held up.
But he was just fleecing people who were in the gold rush.
Yeah.
unidentified
And shit like that.
Damn it.
dan friesen
But what I'm saying is...
jordan holmes
Just all the way back.
dan friesen
He did all that and then he moved to New York once he struck it rich doing these fucking scams and shit.
And then so...
The Trumps have lived in New York ever since then.
Right.
His family didn't come into New York and kick butt.
They fleeced people out west and then moved to New York and started abusing systems that Frederick had been abusing already.
jordan holmes
It's fucking nonsense.
When was that?
When did he move?
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
When did the guy move from Bavaria?
Like, what year are we talking about?
dan friesen
He moved to Bavaria in 18...
jordan holmes
Or he left Bavaria.
dan friesen
I'm not entirely sure.
I would say that it's probably in the neighborhood of 1888 or so.
1889?
jordan holmes
Okay.
So, pitch.
Time machine.
1889.
Kill the Trump progenitor.
Then you can just hang out and kill Hitler.
Like, you can just two birds with one stone on one time travel trip.
dan friesen
Better idea.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Kill Frederick Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Do all the things he does.
But then be a good person.
jordan holmes
But then be better.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
I get super rich scamming these fucking prospectors.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then I just get to be a super billionaire and I teach my kids ethics and morals and not to kick black people out of homes.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And have racist housing rights.
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Okay.
dan friesen
Anyway.
That's such...
jordan holmes
But then how are you going to kill Hitler?
dan friesen
Such fucking hot bullshit.
Well, I could take a trip, you know?
I could take a little day trip.
jordan holmes
Live it up before you go and kill Hitler.
dan friesen
Right, right.
We have to have our wild salad days.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we get a 19-year-old to do it, and then by the time he's about 35, he gets to go kill Hitler.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
That's a nice weekend.
dan friesen
So anyway, we've got one more clip here, friend.
Yeah.
Let's do this.
Friend.
I don't know.
alex jones
Nika Brzezinski.
And Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough are, to take a term from Lord Trump, they are a pile of garbage!
You are garbage!
You've had your foot on our neck forever, and now Trump's halfway removed the foot.
And we're getting oxygen again, and life's coming back into us, and a bunch of gremlins are running around on the deck of the ship trying to make sure we go under!
So make sure, you arrogant narcissist...
And your con game garbage realize you have failed, you're going to continue to fail, and you will fail!
You are filth!
Ladies and gentlemen, Nicky Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough are the epitome of the arrogant Washington trash.
dan friesen
Your senses are off.
alex jones
That literally hates this country and gets off on it with all the other scum that have hijacked the nation.
You've got to hate a country to want to run into the ground.
That's why they put people that hate us in charge.
It's not like there's that many people that hate America in the U.S. You've just got to be one of these people to be in the power structure.
Well, guess what?
We don't want a power structure.
We want the country to be strong and the planet to be strong and you parasites will be removed.
They're both like horrible footlong tapeworms, man.
I'm telling you.
Tapeworms that we've vomited out and crapped out and they're just trying to force feed themselves back into our lives.
They're like gonorrhea or syphilis.
I mean, they are just...
They're like HIV.
They're like cancer.
They are just...
Or at least can't hurt white people.
They literally want to destroy you.
Okay?
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
God, they're evil.
Do you realize how evil these people are?
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
How committed?
I know folks going behind the scenes, man.
They are.
She is so rude.
And I've talked to four different people that have been guests on the show.
dan friesen
No manners.
alex jones
And they tell me, rock stars, you name it, that behind the scenes she treats her employees like...
They're just like...
She just tells the people, this coffee didn't have what I wanted.
I'll have you fired, you moron idiot.
jordan holmes
I can't think of anybody I've heard who does that.
alex jones
Get over there.
Yes, ma 'am.
I mean, you know what?
I think I'm going to make contact with some of those folks and get the full dope on you guys.
I know people that have been at dinner parties with them, and it's the same.
She is just so evil and so into herself, like her evil father, that she just sits there and just goes...
I mean, she just...
unidentified
I would not go to that dinner party.
alex jones
They're like from Upside Down World, folks.
You understand, they've broken into this dimension.
They want to destroy us.
She thinks she's better than everybody.
She's so hyper-mentally ill-dominant that she's just completely cuckoo.
All right.
Coming up, though, the harpy Joy Behar is just a fake apology.
For the fake news she put out last week.
But first, if you want to wage war against the globalists, infowarscore.com.
They can't stand the fact that you fund us.
They can't stand the fact that they've tried to destroy us.
But you've supported us and gotten great products in exchange.
A total 360 win, win, win, win, win.
And so we've got 33% off our flagship product.
dan friesen
So at that point, he launches into a 10-minute sales pitch that involves the new fortifiedsupply.com plug.
He has a new thing called Patriot Points, where you can earn points towards future purchases or something.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
He's not really clear on what it means.
But yeah, that ad pivot, that's the payoff.
jordan holmes
That's the one.
dan friesen
That's what he does.
He's 40 minutes of getting you worked up and interrupting.
I mean, he did it really poorly this time in terms of like...
Even we were getting super bored, and this is one of our favorite bits, quite frankly.
unidentified
I think it's just because he's working with Joe Scarborough.
dan friesen
It's tough.
jordan holmes
He's a bad straight man.
I don't want to listen to Joe Scarborough talk.
dan friesen
So you got that for 40 minutes, and then, boom, I got a new store.
Love it.
It's perfect.
jordan holmes
That's the plan.
dan friesen
Anyway, let's wrap this up.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I was hoping you'd interrupt me.
jordan holmes
No.
Fucking start the clip again.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Start the bit again.
dan friesen
Start from the beginning.
All right, guys.
So look, I have found out that Alex Jones does not honor map agreements.
unidentified
True.
jordan holmes
Or maybe he does.
dan friesen
I don't think...
I think there's something else going on behind the scenes.
Anyway, I'd like to formally apologize for how long that took up top.
Anyway, you can check out our website where we follow all map agreements.
jordan holmes
We do.
dan friesen
At knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
We follow border agreements.
We follow standardized globe size.
dan friesen
We might as well be the cartographers of podcasts because we're so into map agreements.
jordan holmes
Atlases?
dan friesen
Love them.
jordan holmes
Hate them.
Maps?
dan friesen
Love them.
Knowledgefight.com.
Find out about our hatred of atlases.
jordan holmes
You can click support the show as well.
You can read our blogs.
We both write a lot for it.
Inexplicably.
And you can follow us on Twitter.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Knowledge underscore fight.
jordan holmes
You could go to iTunes.
dan friesen
It's true.
There's a lot of options of what you could do at iTunes.
jordan holmes
Like what?
Like start a prostitution den?
dan friesen
Sure, you could do that.
Go to Seattle in the early 1900s.
jordan holmes
I think that's a good plan.
dan friesen
You could subscribe to our podcast.
You could leave a review.
jordan holmes
You could do that.
dan friesen
Tell your friends.
jordan holmes
No, you can't do that, actually.
dan friesen
You go to Facebook.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if you tell your friends, that violates our map agreement.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
Okay, don't do that.
jordan holmes
Minimum advertising people.
dan friesen
Facebook is an option.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
And then I just...
I just think there's one guy who maybe doesn't even know what a map agreement is.
dan friesen
Hold on, pause the clip.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
Restart it.
Restart it.
dan friesen
From the top.
jordan holmes
All right, all right.
I think there's one guy, and it's not Joe Scarborough.
unidentified
Stop the clip.
dan friesen
Every time we're on this podcast, every time we try and end this podcast, it's just nonsense where you start yelling about some guy that you don't like.
I'm sorry.
jordan holmes
Start from the top.
unidentified
You know, okay.
dan friesen
Start from the top.
jordan holmes
All right.
So, if you don't know, there's this one guy who doesn't know anything about maps at all, and if you don't like him...
Oh, God damn it!
unidentified
God damn it!
dan friesen
All right, go fuck yourself, John Rappaport.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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