Knowledge Fight - #109: December 4, 2017

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#109: December 4, 2017

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On December 4, 2017, Alex Jones deflects scrutiny over Russia ties, dodges calls for financial transparency despite admitting past intelligence interactions, and pivots to tax cuts—claiming 10%+ growth from corporate repatriation while ignoring spending cuts’ impact on Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes expose his self-serving rhetoric, linking it to radicalization and economic collapse, where his audience will scapegoat globalists or minorities. Jones’ erratic behavior, from Y2K conspiracy shifts to iOS 11 "globalist plots," underscores his pattern of evasion and opportunistic fearmongering. [Automatically generated summary]
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alex jones

infowars 21:09

dan friesen

59:01

jordan holmes

33:30

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joy behar

abc 00:34

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kevin in canada

callers 01:14

terrence in washington

callers 01:25

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Speaker	Time	Text
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a first-time caller.
		I'm a huge fan.
joy behar ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're a couple dudes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what we do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Today, we're probably going to shout about a lot of other stuff, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've got a few of them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think we've got some things that need to be shouted about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've got a couple of things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Boy, today was garbage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Today was fucking garbage, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not great.
unidentified		Anyways.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, not great in all of the same ways that we've been complaining about for a year now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It seems as though maybe there's a theme about how this is officially, by scale, the single worst government in the United States' history.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to call it now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it goes far beyond that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But be that as it may, I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the theme of the show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Today we were drinking Mountain Dew Kickstart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep, you took the black cherry and I took the midnight grape and I regret allowing you to take the black cherry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You all listening missed a fervent debate about whether or not grape is a fake flavor before the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't need to rehash on the air.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was not fervent.
		It was fervent.
		It simply happened.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Today, Jordan, we're going to be going over the December 4th.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it also got into the existentialism of all flavors and whether or not they are real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Continue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whether or not they depict the reality or a manufactured reality the globalists have put in front of us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		I've already interrupted you.
		Drink.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, today we're going over the December 4th, 2017 episode, which is Monday.
		If you're nasty, today's kind of, it's a little interesting.
		Some weird stuff happens, and I'm fucking tired of giving that introduction, quite frankly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Seems like you're giving that introduction.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Every single episode, something weird happens.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Some weird shit happens.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we'll get into that here in a second, and we'll complain about the things we need to complain about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But in order to start us off.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to complain about it.
		I want to incite people to violent action.
		I should not have phrased it that way.
		That's an actionable crime, isn't it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, I say complain.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's an issue, isn't it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This may be why I'm in trouble all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Might be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But to start things off on a fun, decent note, I'd like to play an out-of-context drop from today's episode.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I found out that I've known people for years who around me posed that they were libertarians, but behind the scenes hang out with Austin liberals and badmouth me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What a shock.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What a shock.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What would they have to badmouth him about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm guessing it's not friends.
		I'm guessing it's acquaintances who are like, yeah, Trump's great.
		I'm guessing that's what it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Furthermore, it could just be people who say they're libertarian and are actually libertarians.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, that's possible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As opposed to somebody who says he's a libertarian and is actually a conservative fuckface.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Basically, a messianic cult around a big old racist fuck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, we believe in less government oversight, and this guy over here thinks that chimeras are real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, and demons and stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, you're a liberal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like your stance on some things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, to start things off on a positive note, I'd like to give a shout-out to a new foreign policy wonk, which is a real thrill.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for bumping up the donations, Mike W. I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified		Four stars.
terrence in washington ▲ ● ▼		Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We appreciate it very much.
		Thank you so much.
		If you'd like to become a.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm so disappointed when people aren't globalists.
		Like, I want to hear the end of the chat.
		It's so ungracious because, Mike W, fuck yeah, thank you so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		At the same time, now raise it up one more cent so we get to play global.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's only one more cent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure that's exactly how it goes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that's how it works.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Be that as it may.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to get around the system.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I'm actually going to give Mike W a globalist position.
		Not for a penny, but because it's merited.
		Here you go.
		Thank you.
		You're officially a globalist.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified		Four stars.
unidentified		Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Daddy Shark!
unidentified		Bomb, bop, bump, bump, bump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're an outlaw.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think it's because it suggests that somebody sent him a bag of poop every time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it was Daddy Shark who did it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Daddy Shark grew legs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's how Daddy Shark poops as well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Daddy Land Shark.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Beautiful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So if you'd like to support the show, we would really appreciate it because we need support.
		And if you'd like to, I mean, we're going to keep doing this no matter what, but if you'd like to support the show, please do go to knowledgefight.com, click support the show.
		It helps a lot.
		Anyway, so today, Dan, Monday, today.
		There's a couple things that are weighing heavy on my heart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The day that Native American genocide continues further on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, Alex Jones would have you know that actually that is just Trump undoing an unconstitutional land grab.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not how that works.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It has to do with the Bundy people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not how that works out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the whole mentality, the taking back of lands and stuff.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I know.
		I get it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm angry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So what else you got?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, so many things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Today was such shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, everything is bad.
		Like, Roy Moore is going to win.
		We've been saying he's going to win, but now he's going to win.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's going to win.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, and it's insane amount.
		The people who are pushing this fucking tax bill on us are then turning around.
		Like, fucking Oren Hatch.
		God, if somebody could shove something so far up Oren Hatch's ass, it comes straight out through his mouth, and then it gets lit on fire afterwards.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like his Oren Hatch?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like a Dungeons and Dragons flaming sword, straight up through his fucking ass like Dawnbreaker.
unidentified		Politically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Politically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a fucking tone-deaf piece of the shit.
		And the Democrats are fucking worthless.
		I'm done.
		I'm done.
		They are fucking worthless.
		Sam Cedar got fucking.
		Liberals are pussies, Dan.
		That's why we're losing.
		Liberals are pussies.
		They'll cave into fucking anything.
		Gigantic pussies.
		We should all fucking quit.
		This is caveman bullshit.
		We're in cavemen, like it's oh, the strong fucking survive.
unidentified		Fuck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to blink three times to let the room know that I'm being held hostage.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you want to know more of Jordan's thoughts about tech stuff, go check out his blog on KnowledgeFight.com.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wherein I say we have about a month left, and if we don't, I'll sack up and get our torches and fucking pitchforks ready.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And goddammit, fuck the Koch brothers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have negative time, but it won't fall apart within a month.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we have negative time until what we need to have done is done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think maybe the problem with the French Revolution that we can really correct, right, is they only chopped off the heads.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like what they should have done is chop them up into little sections starting at the bottom and just see how long they survive through that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's because they're demons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Literal demons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Literal demons.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't just take off the head of a demon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You need to cut them into bisected little pieces.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think the problem is they're figurative demons, and human beings are garbage.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that all lives within all of us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So you mentioned Sam Cedar, and I want to talk about this a tiny bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For everyone who doesn't know, Sam Cedar today was fired by MSNBC as a contributor because Mike Cernovich.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because of Mike fucking Cernovich!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because Mike Cernovich and his ilk dug up a tweet that he had from 2009 wherein he says that he hopes his daughter is raped by Roman Polanski because he wants his daughter to be raped by someone who has a good sense of mise-an scene.
		And that is funny.
		I mean, it's funny and it's indicative of outrage at people excusing the behavior of Roman Polanski because he's an artist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's called a joke.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very obvious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's literal satire.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very, very obvious.
		Yeah.
		And I like the outpouring of support that I've seen on Twitter from people like Mark Maron and people who have a voice in an independent platform.
		But the very idea that MSNBC would go along with this is a very, very bad sign.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The idea that Mike Cernovich.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if it was individually him, but I know he was involved.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't fucking care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If Mike Cernovich does anything, every single media outlet should be like, okay, well, let's disregard this entirely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think the uniform response should be an eye roll and a gh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Goo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		An info war.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A guy who's a regular contributor to InfoWars got an MSNBC guy fired.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And someone.
		Fuck you.
		Someone who Cernovich would be very scared to speak to.
		Because, I mean, say whatever you want.
		Say he's too liberal or whatever.
		I don't know.
		I don't know what anyone's complaint would be.
		Sam Cedar is a fucking genius.
		Yeah.
		And he can hold his own in debates on policy and on all sorts of things.
		So the very idea that Mike Cernovich would be too cowardly to discuss this with him and instead take this sort of a route is kind of exactly against the things they pretend they're under attack about all the fucking time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you saying that hypocrisy doesn't actually fucking mean anything?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but it's an effective tool for them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the other thing, the reason that I'm bringing it up is because we need to be very, very scared about what this portents.
		And that is, and I think we probably had examples of this in the past, but it's coming down now.
		Yeah.
		Anything that's not that much of that.
		No, these people on the other side, these alt-right fucks and what have you, have gotten a pretty good system together for suppressing people's speech.
		Yep.
		And you need to be very careful about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And getting away with murder.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who's getting away with murder?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Charlottesville.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I guess they're getting away with that too.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that one guy, I mean, he got arrested, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't give a shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The whole movement is fucking responsible for that shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right, fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're all fucking guilty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, fair enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other thing I wanted to bring up was a little article I ran into this morning in my goings over of the news.
		And this is an article out of tablet.com, tablet magazine.
		And I checked into it, and this is absolutely true.
		And the headline for Alex, in case you don't want to hear anything from the article, is In Russia, an old anti-Semitic blood libel gains political traction.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, I've heard that before.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A bishop close to Putin claims Tsar Nicholas II may have been killed in a ritual slaying, a century-old canard blaming the Jews for regicide.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've heard of that one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And the reason that this is very important and we should be very worried about is because this is more indicative of why Alex and the Russians are very in line philosophically and very in line.
		Right.
		And when you look at the things that Alex talks about about how the Russians are waking up and why he's like, they're on the right side of things, he generally mentions like, they talk about how there's poison in the vaccines, which is a well-poisoning type narrative.
		There we go.
		And it's really, really scary because this isn't just some crazy cleric guy or something saying this.
		He's a guy who's very closely aligned with Putin.
		He's a very high-ranking bishop in the Russian Orthodox Church.
		His name is Shev Kunov, Tikhon Shev Kunov.
		And so what he did is he brought this up.
		He brought up this idea that the Jews ritualistically killed Tsar Nicholas in a sense in a ritualistic ceremony that was needed in order to usher in Bolshevism, which is an idea that a lot of people have spread in years since then.
		Right.
		It is a popular idea among crazies and anti-Semites.
		And the thing that's really scary is this next line.
		Following Shev Kunov's comments, the powerful investigative committee, Russia's equivalent of the FBI, quickly announced that it would take part in such an investigation of alleged ritual killing.
		So.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, welcome to 27 Fucking Teen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Awesome.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When we talk about these things, these ideas that Alex Jones presents and these narratives that he has and what's behind them, what we need to realize is the reason that we're talking about Alex Jones is because he's at least slightly entertaining.
		And on top of that, he's a really easy to cut through and disprove asshole.
		But that doesn't mean that there aren't people in the world who believe the same things as him that are much more dangerous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it'd be terrible if it was the president and people near him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It would be awful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a 101 type situation in terms of what's motivating a lot of the and a lot of Trump supporters who don't even realize these things are what's motivating.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They've been duped entirely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, so many of them think that they're not fucking racist.
		Like the whole ultimately, if you voted for Trump, it's because of race.
		That's what it is.
		It's because of race and the complete and utter failure of neoliberalism.
		That's probably true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's a mix, and there are certain other little pieces that are factored in.
		But yeah, generally, I don't want to argue on it.
		So let's get to today's episode, December 4th.
		There's going to be something that happens that I think you'll like.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But first.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's nice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I could use a thing I like today.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the episode starts with Alex complaining a whole bunch about that guy, Peter Ross, I believe, from ABC, who reported that he had a source that was telling him that Flynn was asked by Trump to get in touch with Russia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The guy who got suspended from ABC pretty much immediately.
		For being slightly wrong or for being entirely wrong about this one piece of information.
		Yep.
		Whereas if he worked at a different media outlet, he would not just have been not suspended, probably would have gotten a fucking raise.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's remember the times that Alex Jones has gotten things wrong.
		Let's say in terms of the Hamdi Ulakaya Chulbatan yogurt situation.
		He got sued for a slander and had to make a public apology and then immediately started saying, I wasn't really wrong.
		Right.
		He was.
		He was very much wrong.
		So he's complaining about that a bit, but he gets sidetracked by someone else in pop culture, and that takes him off on a wall.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		David Jones?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not David Bowie?
unidentified		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wish my dad would live forever.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's just crazy, but they don't care.
		They're the globalists.
		They're the outside power.
		And they're getting ready to try to remove the president.
		So here's Joy Behar.
		Here's Joy Behar celebrating the disinfo that they're sharing three days later, still on the internet.
		They don't care.
		Here it is.
joy behar ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
		Oh, breaking news.
		ABC News Brian Ross is reporting.
		Michael Flynn promised full cooperation to the Mueller team and is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump directed him to make contact with the Russians.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yay!
		We're going to destroy the recovery.
		We're going to arrest the president.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to have a civil war.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yay!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to destroy America.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Still going, huh?
unidentified		Yeah!
unidentified		Woo!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm really ruining this song for me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and then he goes out to commercial.
		Like, he just goes out to commercials.
		First of all, fantastic analysis.
		You know, like, it's great.
		Second, I mean, this is Monday's episode of his show.
		They did that on Friday, and then people made retractions.
		You know, like, I don't know if the view did.
		I don't really care.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who gives a fucking thing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're not a hard-hitting news outlet, first of all.
		And second of all, she's saying that Brian Ross is reporting that.
		That is true.
		She didn't lie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, it would be great.
		I don't know because I don't watch the fucking view if they on Monday's episode said, we got it wrong.
		We got bad information from ABC.
		You know, don't, or whatever.
		But if you Google the Flynn, Brian Ross, whatever, it's all people being like, ABC got it wrong.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Officer New Post, ABC got it wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Every single outlet has made it clear, like, yeah, we reported that he reported that, but also now we're reporting that he was wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think the people, I don't think the view should issue a retraction.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't care.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because did you hear how happy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're thrilled.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They were so happy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's great too is if you watch the video, a couple of people at the desk, not thrilled.
		Because they have their conservative people.
		I don't think Elizabeth Hasselbeck is still there, my friend from Survivor, season two.
		But they still have their conservative voices, and they're just sitting there like, harump.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fucking good.
		Yeah.
		But the crowd loved it.
		Yeah, I wish I could live in that moment where it's like, what?
		We're finally going to get him?
		Hooray.
		And if they retract him, then the sad groan would be just as long.
		Like, you know how everybody was clapping for 45 fucking seconds?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to hear a groan that lasts that long.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's half of our show.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Burrito in the chat.
		My favorite season of Survivor was season two.
		That one was great.
		I loved Chicken Joe.
unidentified		Liberal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Chicken Joe was not a liberal.
		I don't think.
		His name was Chicken Joe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Chicken Joe's are generally speaking not progressive.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was a great season, season two, and they're in Australia.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, let's move along.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This next clip, Alex is complaining that no one will retract the story.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The one that was retracted almost immediately?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And somebody actually got fired for.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was suspended.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I gave up faith.
unidentified		Christmas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		White.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex has been trying to troll everybody with the white Christmas and pretending that it's like, oh, it's racist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everyone thinks it's racist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's playing that because he thinks he's going to piss people off and everyone just doesn't care.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't really care.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or instead of trolling, it's more like, yeah, no, you're racist, regardless of the song.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It has nothing to do with the song.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So who fucking cares what song you're playing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Just like the walls are you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Play fucking DNA like that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, we've got a Christmas message from the president that upset a lot of Democrats over the weekend.
		They're so bigoted.
		They're so anti-Christian that even the Germanic traditions, the Tannenbaum and things, they want that type of stuff banned if they can, obviously, and tell kids they can't hand out Christmas cards at public schools because there's a separation of church and state.
		No, the school shouldn't have an official religion, but you can hand out whatever you want.
		So these are authoritarian dirtbags who want to shut down free speech across the board, but they're failing.
		And people like Joy Behard last week, the Huffington Post and hundreds of other publications will not retract their reports about her celebrating the fake news that Flynn was ordered to meet with the Russians before the president was elected.
		Which could be some type of collusion, perhaps.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The only reason I left that in is Alex did admit there that it's collusion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It could be before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It could be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So let's hope something does come out eventually that they were.
		Because then, Alex, you just admitted that's collusion.
		I don't know.
		I like the idea that he's trying to present that it's all just that they're mad about Christmas and like all this stuff.
		He's trying to play that sort of card.
		And like, that's I have never, I've never heard anti-Christmas fervor from anybody, like atheists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't think of any time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I've heard mostly anti-Christian stuff or anti-Christmas stuff from Christians who are like, it's too commercial.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the most aggressive criticism I've ever seen.
		Like, it's not, it's about Jesus.
		It's not about gift giving.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And stuff like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've never heard one of my trendy liberal friends be like, you know what? Fuck Christmas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because we should celebrate Kwanzaa or anything like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		Fuck Christmas.
		We should celebrate Mithras Day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The actual holiday about the actual guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because Jesus is bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but like, the only argument that anybody makes is like, other people have other holidays.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Be cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe don't be a dick about Christmas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Be cool.
unidentified		Be about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Be cool.
		What drives me insane is this is such one of those moments where you see the disparity of the liberal, the progressive bent cannot make any mistake.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The conservative bent can make all the mistakes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, and that's because Sam Cedar made a not even mistake eight years ago.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was nothing.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		No, and it's Mike Cernovich has fucking put out horrible.
unidentified		Mike Cernovich got people fucking shot at.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's pretended that he didn't be involved in Pizzagate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, there's archived.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's this, and it's the trick that we fall into.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are holding ourselves to the standard of we have to deal with reality.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the conservatives are holding themselves to the standard of reality's bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We don't even need to worry about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what I was saying when we were talking right at the beginning of this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hypocrisy is a tool.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's a function, not a bug.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, it's a feature.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's intentional.
		If it didn't hurt and like destroy public discourse and public credibility and trust, I would be like, that is an amazing trick.
unidentified		I mean, let's, hey, maybe let's do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have we considered that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, okay, what if we just lied all the time?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let's try.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Give me something to lie about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're doing this wrong already.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If we all adopt socialism, then everybody will get healthcare.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Nonk will come back to life.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		Yeah.
		Alex, what could be better than bringing Nonk back to life?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		Socialism is known to bring dogs back.
		Socialism may have murdered.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, if you think globalists have med beds and you want them to be released throughout the world, we'll do it for you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Adopt socialism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everyone gets med beds.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		I know what's that other guy's name?
		Kramer.
		Randy Kramer.
		I know Randy.
		I know Randy Kramer.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's got the med bed.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's got a Kickstarter for it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck it.
		You guys want raptors?
		Well, throw Raptors in there, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a President's Day sale of lies.
		That's what's going on right now.
		Okay, you're right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's only December.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are extending those lies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Free shipping on the med beds, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to take a bath on that heavy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You put in auto ship on top of that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We'll give you a 5% extra discount.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can't come up with why you'd need two med beds ever, but one might break.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You wouldn't need two med beds.
		Indeed.
		What are you saying?
		Are you trying to tear apart the family?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I guess.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You need at least four med beds.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Socialism is about destroying the family.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		Damn it.
		We're shitty at lying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I told you I'm lying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So you might think that Alex is going to get off this topic and get back to something that matters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I think he's going to stay on Joy Behau until we all die.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Boy, what a prediction.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So here's Joy Behar.
		Merry Christmas, celebrating the lie.
		Uh-oh, and the producer walks out and hands with a card.
		Breaking news.
		Yeah, more fake news that now their low-information voters are still sharing this, still sharing all the celebration clips.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then I'd like to take just a quick second to imagine what level of nonsense Alex's audience is sharing that's debunked and not true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we don't have time, but just imagine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just imagine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like that he thinks that who cares about, like, you're getting, even in your anger, you're wrong.
		Who cares if low-information voters hear that the president might be because he wants the low-information people.
		No, I mean, not just that, but like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like low-information is my game.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that information doesn't affect votes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That information is like, oh, we can all breathe a sigh of relief.
		It's not like, well, I guess I'll vote against him.
		Like, everybody who's happy is already voting against him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're not going to change low-information voters by being like, yeah, you know, that crime we all know the president committed.
		He committed it.
		We yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		When they cuss at you on the street, you go, hey, that's fake.
		Oh, shut up, Russian.
		You're going to prison.
		Hey, actually, that's not true.
		Shut up.
		I'll throw hot coffee on you.
		I'm going to tell you F off.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The one time liberal wasn't a pussy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But also, he antagonized that dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not like he was just walking around and a guy's like, hey, I want to throw some hot coffee on you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was like being a dick to him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you see a rich person in a nice suit, throw coffee on him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the guy threw coffee on him after he, the guy, like the dude who threw the coffee clearly watched him chase somebody down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or at least, you know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, did you press charges, Alex?
		No.
		So shut the fuck up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a God.
		We're going to screw the country over.
		You got it, Jones.
		You got it, Trump.
		You got it, America.
		We don't want the facts.
		Here's Joy Behart.
joy behar ▲ ● ▼		Welcome back to the shelf.
		Oh, my God.
		Oh, breaking news.
		ABC News Brian Ross is reporting Michael Flynn promised full cooperation to the Mueller team.
		Well, he's been on the V. And is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump directed him to make contact with the Russians.
unidentified		Yeah!
		T.T. has better analysis this time.
		He goes, no.
		I'm hearing nothing.
		I think he just doesn't understand genuine human happiness.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So he's listening to it like a robot, trying to be like, okay, what does that sound like?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's see.
		Let's see.
		He's coming back with some analysis here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And a celebrating, even if it was true, celebrating wild-eyed.
		But none of it is.
		And that's what they do.
		They celebrate hoaxes.
		And the low-information voters celebrate being manipulated and lied to.
		And they're upset the economy's roaring back.
		They're upset, optimism's roaring back.
		They're upset small businesses are coming back.
		They're upset.
		What are they going to do to fly over a country that can't be bankrupted in control?
		And here's what they're really upset about again.
		The president Melania with one of their Christmas messages on Friday, why throughout the weekend, there was just this is bigoted.
		This is hateful.
		Obama only said holidays.
		Trump said Christmas.
		This is a cult trying to tell us what words to use and overthrow traditionalism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What do you got?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So what this is all really about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Christmas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that Trump and Melania, which, by the way, he definitely makes sure that it's not Melania Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's Donald Trump and then Melania.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's already said that he has information that he fucks around.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump fucks around.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, of course Trump fucks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I have an understanding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If he still can.
		Right.
		So this is all about Christmas.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what this everyone cheering for the eventual impeachment and hopefully felony conviction.
		And hung by the neck until dead Trump.
		It's because he said Merry Christmas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, and the liberals and the globalists are scared of the power that saying Merry Christmas has, and therefore they're pissed off that he's bringing this tradition back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And to that, I say that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To that, I say, when I was a young man, I didn't think it could be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You dabbled in witchcraft.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In Merry Christmas-based witchcraft.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I read some books.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Read some Crowley.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did a little dabbling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But be that as it may, I didn't think it could be more pathetic than Fox News' handling of the idea of a war on Christmas.
		Oh, yeah.
		Like, I really thought that that was some shameful, desperate, fear-mongering, cash grab.
		Sad.
		When we talked about a second ago, we talked about the Christian complaint that I had always heard about Christmas was that it's over-commercialized, getting rid of the reason for the season and what have you.
		And when you take that to its logical extent, obviously scamming your audience is just commercially based.
		seems like it so all of the war on christmas ideas is not it's not like it's it's cannibals It's literally the worst version of getting outside of the reason for the season.
		And so, I mean, Alex is probably behaving in what I would describe as the least Christian way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's amazing to me is that that segment producer who came up with that idea is not a billionaire.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like back in Fox News days?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because that has resonated so much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, he should have gotten at least 150% raise, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, think about how.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That makes me think of that episode on The Wire where D'Angelo is talking about the guy who invented the chicken nugget.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Didn't get shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that sort of thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Pathetic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's too bad.
		Anyway, this is about where we leave the Joy Behar segment of the show.
		And I should tell you, it's about the first half hour or so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's no way it was just a couple of clips.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he makes hay out of it.
		There's no doubt about that.
		And then towards the end of the first hour, there's a bunch of rambling, blah, Yeah, yeah.
		But towards the end of the first hour, he does something that I got pretty excited about when I heard it.
		I should also tell you, I'm pretty sure he's drunk.
		I'm pretty sure he's drinking.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because at one point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because after the Flynn news came down, he was like, I better start getting ready for the eventual drunk that's going to last a month.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A little bit later in the episode, I did hear him that sound that sounds like ice clinking together, like a high ball or something like that.
		And it happened to, again, happen exactly when they had the other image up on screen, the like, let's go to the caller image so that there's no video on him.
		And it sounds like he's slurping a drink.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It could be a big gulp.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it could be, but his behavior gets pretty weird.
		His behavior is weird.
		But let's get before we get to that, let's say I had high hopes when I heard this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we'll see what your response is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So here's a toll-free number to join us, 877-789.
		Alex, 877-789-2539.
		And people that disagree will go to the head of the line, 877-789-2539.
		First-time callers, by the way.
		Agree, disagree, you're welcome.
		I want to hear from you.
		877-789-2539.
		And please, I don't want any joke callers, okay, that call up and act like they're a liberal.
		There are real ones out there.
		Some of them can actually form sentences.
		On the street, all they say is F you, we're going to get you Russian agent.
		Well, I'm trying to give those folks a chance to call in person to person and actually on a platform.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		First of all, there's no one there now.
		There's no one's going to be answering the hotline.
		It's 7.30.
		They don't do the nightly news live.
		I'm sure they don't have an answering machine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What if they do?
		Fine.
		It's in there.
		It's in there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's just going to keep ringing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		At least it's in there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I got it in my phone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's finish the clip.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because nowhere Owen Schroyer goes, nowhere Millie Weaver goes, or any of our reporters on the street, 99% of these people will not talk to us.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They will not discuss anything with us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
		They have no intellectual argument.
		Well, here's your chance to prove me wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, first of all, the premise there at the end, everywhere I go, no one will talk to me.
		I wonder why that is.
		I have an alternative explanation other than they have no intellectual argument.
		I would positively.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's role play.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Okay.
		Should I be Alex or you?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I'll be Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Hey, how do you feel about the impending tax bill?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, go fuck yourself.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Fair.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's probably where it all ends up going.
		Or even, like, we've seen him do man on the street shit.
		He chases down people in Seattle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or even more likely, just be like, dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He screamed cupcake at that lady when he was drunk on the streets.
unidentified		I.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have to get to work, and I don't have time to get into this shit with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And like I said, I think like one of our first episodes, we were discussing what would happen if I saw Alex Jones in the wild.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My response was I'd probably throw up just from like, because it's like, I watched it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm such a huge fan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not that.
		It's a realization that he's real, kind of, to some extent.
		Like, I listen to this shit every day, and like, I still don't really believe that he's corporeal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you think he's like a Wizard of Oz situation?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's like a robot or something like that.
		Because it's just too ridiculous.
		The idea that someone lives in this much of a deceitful headspace is terrifying.
		Like, I was walking around earlier today.
		I absorbed all the news and what have you.
		Just the various things.
		Some of the stuff we talked about at the beginning of the show.
		Other stuff, like with the Supreme Court saying that the travel ban is possibly okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, great.
		Thanks, guys, for Neil Gorsuch.
		And what fucking pile of shit who can go fucking.
		What flaming swords do we have?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We need more.
		But that spells out for the future.
		I was walking around and I almost broke down in tears just walking down the street, which is fairly uncommon for me.
		But a Christian Skock song came on my random playlist and it hit a nerve.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't want that part.
		I was like, you got me emotionally because I was very struck by the same thing.
		And then you said, Christian Scott, and I was like, oh, am I a pussy now, too?
		Do I have to tamp down my emotions like the good Irishman that I was?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, look, the point I was trying to get was.
		The point I was trying to get at is, like, I know what effect this is having on me.
		Like, dwelling in the world of Alex Jones and listening to him regularly.
		There are so many people who listen to him regularly, and I can't imagine how it's not affecting them.
		And they, like, I was trying to get myself into, like, I don't know if I'm articulating this well, but the thought that I had was like, what must it be like to think this is right or think this is real or think that anything that he's saying is true and not just trying to sell you shit.
		Right.
		Like, absorbing that hatred, absorbing that, again, just repackaged anti-Semitic canards.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, what kind of toll does that take on you if it's taking this kind of a toll on me and I'm keenly aware of what I'm listening to and deconstructing it and fighting back against it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's horrifying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think you are going about it the exact opposite.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Erection.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Erection.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did I say erection?
		I think you did.
		man i think you're going about i think you have an innie erection is what you're doing i have a convex bone uh the The exact opposite direction.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's too much empathy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because if you are stupid and angry, which you have to be to listen to him in this regard, you can't be— I think that you're wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I disagree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, obviously, I disagree.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just put forth the exact opposite idea of what you just said, and I hold by it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the reason that I think you're wrong is I think that you become stupid and angry.
		And maybe you're stupid to begin with.
		But I think that people get, like, I know that for me, when I first listened to Alex Jones a little bit, or our friend Marty DeRosa, when he listened to Alex, some listeners who I've talked to who used to listen to him, who aren't idiots, one of the reasons that you do is because a lot of the conspiracy stuff is pretty sexy.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's some stuff that's pretty interesting, and the idea of forbidden knowledge and the idea of like an alternative explanation of so many things that seem unexplainable.
		The insinuation of someone who knows truth is very alluring, and you start to explore it a little bit.
		And I think by degrees, you could end up becoming dumber and angry because those narratives hook you and you don't realize it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let me go back.
		I used stupid in the wrong way.
		meant is naive in the classical sense because there is no because like with our friends who have listened before naive is not something that you can gain No.
		Naive is something that you only move away from.
		So anybody who is listening to Alex Jones and believing in that stuff is naive and they have not grown away from it.
		Just like I don't begrudge anybody who like it's not that you're stupid if you listen to Alex Jones.
		You're stupid if you continue to believe Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, but I think that there is a piece of his marketing operation, quite frankly, and his bigotry machine, which work in tandem and they're inextricable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		New product for Knowledge Fight Line.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bigotry machine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just like the cow goes moo.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the name of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just racist versions of that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or that's the name of our new Shred Corps band.
		But like those things, one of the features of how it has to work is you have to instill in your audience a sense of acquired and reinforced naivete.
		Like you need that to sustain because if you lose that naivete, you start to read articles and you start to say like, oh, oh, this is stupid.
		Right.
		Or you start to ask questions of like, shout out to the chat room.
		Nick, my old Christian ska band was called the Detonators.
		Anyway.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I had to undercut my own point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was getting too serious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm very angry with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, let's move on to this next clip where Alex, again.
		Christian Scott Band.
		I was young.
		Anyway, I was naive.
		I didn't ask a lot of questions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now you've grown.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, we get to hear more about how Alex is going on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But before we do that, sorry, real quick.
		Just my point being in regards to that.
		Naivete is something that you can tamp down and you can force to maintain.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is not something that can be like you can't go towards it.
		You can only go away from it.
		Do you know what I mean?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I believe so, yes.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's my point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like I use stupid as a catch-all, and it is kind of something that I don't mean in that regard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is dumb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is dumb.
		But it is not that they are dumb.
		It's that they're naive and it is dumb to continue to do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think what we can sum it up with is only the naive can stay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The rest will be flipped.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But in this next call, we get more about how Alex is going to take calls.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm giving the phone number out for people that disagree and really think that we're under Russian control, that I'm getting orders from the Russians, that I'm getting funding from the Russians, that Trump is, and that there's proof there.
		Killer Monair even saying this.
		This is so ridiculous.
		It makes me angry just to say it because it's like you're welcome to call in and ask I'm a violin player from China.
		And it just has no connection to who I am.
		But that's the whole narrative by the globalists that have hijacked the country.
		They're the foreign multinational force.
		But I want to challenge you.
		Are you proud of what Mueller's done?
		Are you proud of the fact that there's nothing in any of this?
		I mean, Trump's done nothing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's far, far from the truth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even if all they're doing is putting together an obstruction of justice case, which is what the Democrats seem to think is what Mueller's ultimate endgame is, he did that shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		totally like it and you don't like you can you you don't need to prove it in court to be it's obvious that he did that i I would like to do my impression of Alex Jones nigh on 100 years ago.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		80 years ago, maybe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		80 years ago.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		80 years ago, probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So 1930s?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Al Capone hasn't done shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, he forgot to fill out a tax form.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He forgot to fill out a tax form.
		Everybody is coming around saying he killed people, saying he was running booze, said he was running numbers.
		It's bullshit.
		He just forgot to fill out a form.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And look, they could indict a ham sandwich these days.
unidentified		Right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, you can say that Jefferson Davis is an agent of the South, but that's just like calling me an agent of the South.
		What am I next?
		An agent of China?
		Come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What am I a violin player from Mars?
unidentified		Come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's make ridiculous strawmen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that some Star Wars?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was in the Cantina.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		some jizz that's what they called it Yeah, that's the genre.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, it's so good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's that Snice Noodles?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I remember that from when I was a kid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't remember.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Cantina band?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If we were off air, I would remember it immediately.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right, fair enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I think their name was the Baro de Jizz.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that was the genre.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, there's no such genre.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They weren't playing jizz music.
		The band.
		The chat room could chime in on this if we're wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was like Snyce Noodle.
		That was the name of the band.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm thinking of Sly Stone and the family band.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I might.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're thinking of Sly Stone and the Cantina band.
		Snice Noodle and the Cantina band.
		Now, that's great.
		Had a huge hit with In Time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm seeing from the chat room Figurin Dan and the modal node.
		Is that correct?
		Is that correct?
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't care anymore.
		I don't give a fuck about Star Wars.
		Figure and damn.
		I've heard from the mooch.
		Jizz is the genre.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Scott, screw you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		So, Alex has built up the fact that he's going to take calls and he's Sly Snoodles band was at Jabba's Palace.
		So I wasn't totally off.
		I have these nerd memories from when I was younger.
		And anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was like weird nerd flashbacks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I did LSD and watched a lot of Star Wars a long time ago.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was in the trenches.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex has presented this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The spider leadership got to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's going to take calls and he's going to, you know, he's going to try and get some antagonistic callers, see if people can prove that he is related to Trump.
		And I want to be clear.
		I had way too much work to do today, and I was not listening live.
		I had to double back.
		If I had heard this live, I probably would have called in and been like, Alex, you admitted on air that you've spoken to Russian intelligence and that you didn't alert the FBI afterwards.
		That is enough to be very seriously concerned about your allegiances.
		Now let's talk about blood libel.
		Now let's talk about how much your position on Putin has changed over the years.
		Now let's talk about these weird conversations you had with Roger Stone and Steve Pieczenik in December of 2015.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was a weird turn the last time we went on a double date and you were like, okay, no, this getting to know each other is fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now let's talk about blood libel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Again, that was a strange turn.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was a strange turn.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was hanging out with some comedian friends, one of the best in the business, Lisa Traeger, was in town over the weekend, and I went to go see her perform with our friend Marty.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I did that experience.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You did exactly that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, not to them, because Marty already knows, and Lisa was busy.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If I could have gotten Lisa, if I could have gotten the headliner, I would have gotten right in there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But I had to stick with the host and that shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, Lisa and I, whenever we get together, we just want to talk about various deep cuts from Britney Spears' first album and what have you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But be that as a cool among us does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because that is.
		That does end up coming into my social life way too much.
		I know.
		Way too much.
		I've been there.
		Guys, it's important.
		There's a new Holocaust coming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		What am I supposed to say?
		I do the same thing.
		I have to avoid it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Good.
		I feel bad for whatever influence you may have on our callers' social lives.
		Or our callers?
unidentified		Our callers?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I got caller in the head because the rest of the show is going to deal with a lot of calls.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I got an erection in the head.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		So Alex talks for 35 minutes about, and this is with commercials cut out 35 minutes.
		Okay.
		About whether, you know, I'm going to take these calls.
		At a certain point, I'm like, you're vamping.
		You don't want to take these calls.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		You're worried that someone will say something smart.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so here's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then you're going to have to be like, no, it wasn't in the articles of section 2501C is where you're wrong, sir.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Under common law.
		Yeah.
		And so here's maritime law.
		Here's the first clip.
		The first caller.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're not an admiral.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they believe they're in an existential war with Christians.
		And if they can just dominate America that they fed off of, then somehow they'd be somebody.
		That's the whole existential struggle they're in.
		They're just sacks of trash.
		And they hate us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're going to be somebody.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're like hordes of zombies.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They just hate the living.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They hate those that are informed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Ken, Kevin, Terrence, Aaron, Chad, John.
		Does any of these people disagree?
		Maybe Kevin does.
		Kevin is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and Terrence probably does.
		I've known a lot of Terrence's.
		Not a huge fan of Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you think this first caller he goes to is going to be critical?
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think this first caller he goes to might actually plug one of his products.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Kevin in Canada, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
kevin in canada ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Alex, I've listened to you longer than the NSA has.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, I'm going to give you a chance to do you think he's critical or do you think he's a fan?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go with he's a fan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let's see.
kevin in canada ▲ ● ▼		And watched your show.
		And I have to say, you're probably the worst double-speaking liar there is.
		Ooh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this got me very excited.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, here we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I was like, oh, shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump into this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's see what he says.
kevin in canada ▲ ● ▼		And I can prove it.
		The first thing is, when it comes to Russia, there's one thing that you could do to prove it, but you won't.
		Release your finances.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, first of all, that's a bad attack.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He needs to release his finances for other reasons.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Russia's probably not funneling him money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like all of his boats.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		All these other things.
		And quite frankly, I think the world would be much better off for knowing how much he's making on these fake bills.
		But there's other reasons that we, it's of interest to his listeners and to the world at large where the money's coming from.
		Because, I mean, probably it's more like Mercer or one of these other billionaire assholes or the cokes.
		But it's at least a dart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You just named the top five people on my hit list.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's at least politically.
		At least it's a dart.
		At least he's throwing a dart, and I appreciate it.
		Yeah.
kevin in canada ▲ ● ▼		And prove to your audience where your money actually comes from.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Keep going.
kevin in canada ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		The second, as far as doublespeak goes, I mean, you already said on Joe Rogan's podcast that you were pressured by your advertisers to lie about Y2K.
		You said that Russia launched intercontinental ballistic missiles against the United States.
		Now, another reason why you're probably tied to Russia is you don't call Vladimir Putin a literal demon.
		Just like you call Hillary now, you called Putin back then a literal demon.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, hold on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot for me to remember, so let me just go through each one first.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		First of all, take some fucking notes, Alex.
		You have huge stacks of paper in front of you.
		You should use it.
		So one thing, just to be fair.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're going to screen your callers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In fairness to Alex against this caller, in Y2K, he didn't say that Putin was literally a demon.
		He said he's resembling a demon.
		He says that he is on a power trip and going crazy, and people have said he looks like a demon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is why we lose, Dan.
		Who gives a fuck about that?
		We don't need to be honest.
		We don't need to recognize the truth.
		We need to lie.
		You know what he said?
		He didn't just say Putin was a literal demon.
		He said Putin gave him a hand job in high school.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nah, I go back to the early motor.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm pretty sure he said that on Y2K.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I go back to the Chris Gethard early motto: lose well.
		That's what I insist on doing.
		We will stay true to reality and inevitably get murdered by hordes of ding dongs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Win like a bitch is my motto.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't like that.
		So, Alex has needed to take a break because he's got to write this down.
		Or I can't remember all those two complaints you made.
		Right, right, right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In fairness to this caller against you, he did make three complaints.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The finances.
		Yep.
		Putin.
		Oh, and then lying about Y2K.
		But those two are sort of parceled together.
		The lying about Y2K is absolutely true.
		And he does say that on Rogan's show.
		And it's clear that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he was pressured to lie about Y2K.
unidentified		Putin's not because Putin's not a demon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Advertiser was Ted Anderson of Midas Resources.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he really wanted him to spread panic in order to sell gold.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You got it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is why he did that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nailed it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, I can't wait.
		We got to do that 9-11 episode one of these days because I didn't want to do it, but then I started to think more about Ted Anderson.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And how many 9-11s that we're currently living through?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I started to think about Ted Anderson.
		I remember from watching the 9-11 episode, there's a lot of gold sales on it.
		For as much as Alex screams, I called this and all that stuff, gloating about how right he is about everything.
		A lot of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he's a human being with empathy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		A lot of it.
		That might be another connection between him and Trump.
		Their immediate reaction to 9-11.
		So I think that his complaint about his finances could have been better presented, but good call.
		The lying about Y2K, good one.
		The Putin is a demon thing, good, but also slightly inaccurate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, inconsequential.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's see how Alex responds.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've told the story about not knowing how real Y2K would be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And how the Navy said that it was all going to crash, and how the government first put out that it was going to be this real thing.
		And then I didn't believe it was real for a while.
		And then by the end, sponsors and listeners convinced me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that means you lied.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Convinced him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sponsors convinced you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Convinced him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Listeners convinced you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They convinced him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If listeners convinced you, you need to reassess how you get information.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Secondarily, if sponsors convinced you, then you are lying in order to appease a sponsor.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he has admitted that his critique is actually correct.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't get it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That, okay, maybe something's going to happen.
		Then ABC News reported that an intercontinental ballistic missile was fired from Russia and may have malfunctioned on Y2K.
		William Cooper and others edited the tapes together from me like on air 18 hours that day to make it like it's some five-minute tape to sound completely insane.
		So that's fake news.
		The other thing is release my finances.
		Well, you release your finances.
		What does that mean?
		Like, show us Russia isn't giving you money.
		Russia's giving me zero money.
		I'm financed by the listeners buying products.
		And last time I checked, I think we have almost no orders going into Russia.
		The UK orders a lot of stuff.
		Canada orders a lot of stuff.
		Mexico orders a lot of stuff.
		Strangely enough, France orders a lot of stuff.
		And Japan and Australia, they still pay.
		You know, the fact that it's expensive to get stuff over there.
		I'm trying to set up a European division, an Australian division.
		That's coming next.
		You know, so that we can actually have product in warehouses there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's turning it into a plug.
		He's turning it into a, we're going to be able to get you product faster here in the future.
		He's pretty smooth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is smooth as shit.
		But then also credit where credit is due.
		This slimy piece of garbage can go fuck himself, but god damn it if that wasn't great salesmanship.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But then the other idea, too, of like you release your finances.
		That's not an answer.
		And when he says Russia gave me zero money, again, that's entirely possible.
		I don't think it's a reasonable thing to think, oh, you know what happened?
		Kislyak gave him $50.
		That's an absurdly low amount for whatever we're talking about.
		That's not what people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Our issue isn't that Russia did or did not give you money, although they certainly did by boosting your hit counts and all of that shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You sold more advertisements to people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So technically they did give you in an indirect way.
		Yeah.
		But there's another thing that's really interesting, and I'll put together some clips about this in the future.
		But there have been a number of times that people have called in and asked him about the Koch brothers and whether he gets money from them.
		And he does not answer that.
		He just says, he just answers that, they're not that important.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're not really all that political.
unidentified		They only give me a million and they gave that fucker Yiannopoulos, like 20 billion.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I need more.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who gave him his book deal?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's get through that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's get to the bottom of that boat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, to make it better for folks.
		But I mean, again, you literally, you literally, because see, if I say something on the biggest podcast in the world, it's not like I'm saying it in secret.
		I would see the headlines.
		Jones caught smoking pot.
		We caught him on a podcast that had 45 million viewers.
		It's like saying Jones got caught in the Super Bowl.
		If I was in the Super Bowl, I got caught throwing a football.
		I mean, it's just these little weird semantical games that people engage in are just bizarre.
		I mean, where's the evidence of Trump and Russia?
		Where's the evidence that I'm involved with Russia?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there is you admitting that you spoke to Russian intelligence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not a good defense that time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		His slimy move into a sales pitch?
		Great.
		His dissembling on like, I got caught throwing a football.
		Does that wouldn't work for you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, it's more fun to bring up the idea that, like, on Y2K, you also said there were concentration camps set up at an Austin airport.
unidentified		Oh, well, that's.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, that's not Russia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But the Canadian guy didn't bring that up because that was true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Do you literally with a straight face, Kevin?
		You believe that I have some connection to Russia.
kevin in canada ▲ ● ▼		So, Alex, I'm going to take you up on your deal.
		I will release my finances, and you will have to do the same.
		You just said it to your whole audience.
		Release my finances.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hey, listen, bro.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You have nothing.
kevin in canada ▲ ● ▼		This is my proof.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your call.
		You've got your proof.
		I appreciate your call.
		There you go, folks.
		There you go.
		I said Russia fired a missile and then I must be paid by the Russians.
		They have nothing.
		They have no facts.
		We're going to make America great again, whether you like it or not.
		Have fun up there in Canada, bro.
		We'll be back with more calls.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he has that call, and he thinks he won that one.
		He thinks he won that exchange, and it works reasonably well.
		The break music plays, and he talks over him when he's trying to make another point.
		But be that as it may, that's fine.
		You know, deflection and non-answering of questions in terms of the critiques that the guy brought up.
		Fine.
		So he gets back from commercial.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Gets back from his commercial break and gets a little defensive.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This call might not have been the best for his headspace.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't like enforcement.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not necessarily.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We just took a call from somebody that was going to give me evidence of my Russia connections.
		And he had none.
		It's ridiculous.
		The Cold War is over.
		Ideologically, Russia is more like the U.S. used to be.
		We face the same globalist foes, multinational corporations that want to control our countries.
		That's the only connection we have with Russia.
		And I do share Russia's views on getting away from globalism.
		And I don't buy all the hype about Vladimir Putin because I've investigated it myself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Uh-oh.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's the same mainstream media lying about me that lies about Putin.
		And I'm certainly not lionizing Vladimir Putin.
		The point is, most of it's a load of bull.
		That's their country.
		This is my country.
		The communist Chinese are the ones that have bought off a lot of our media that are starting to control Hollywood.
		They're the big issue.
unidentified		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Long pause.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Before I go back to your calls, just briefly here, I do want to remind listeners that we are under globalist attack for a good reason because we're effective.
		We understand what's going on.
		And we're promoting freedom worldwide.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you need money?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we're exposing the globalist program.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So if you do support the broadcast at InfoWarsStore.com, it's a big deal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a big deal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is a big deal.
		Hey, you know how much he hates those globalist multinational corporations who, yes, Trump did just give $2 trillion to.
		Yes, that is true.
		But they're because prosperity.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump runs a multinational corporation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because prosperity.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All that is, again, that gets into that hypocritical nonsense game that doesn't work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But he doesn't do this anymore.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The thing that I want to bring out of there is that Alex is being very clear, and we already knew this to a great extent, that what he does identify with and connect with the Russians is what he believes to be fighting against globalism and the globalists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And as we know from a years-long investigation, the globalists aren't real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The globalists are Alex Jones' cover for archaic anti-Semitic canards that inform his worldview.
		And that's why it's really important, as we discussed at the beginning of the show, that this Russian bishop is bringing back up blood libel ideas.
		It's because that is this.
		When Alex says, he just said literally there, that's the connection we have.
		It's not that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's that.
		And what's important to make clear on that is that it is not necessarily anti-Semitism in the way that, you know, it's not specifically targeted towards Jews.
		What he's done is repurpose anti-Semitic bullshit from 100 years ago and applied it to everyone who's not him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everyone who disagrees with him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everyone who disagrees with him is a blood libeler.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everyone who fights against, you know, social oppression, those sorts of things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everyone who wants a more fair and equal society is guilty of blood libel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Unless we forget the protocols of the elders of Zion were written by Russian intelligence agents back then.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the connection they have.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So all of that just, I mean, it's inexorable.
		It's all super connected in terms of these philosophical ideas.
		I keep describing it as a brain virus because it is.
		It gets in and it gives a false context to everything that you look at.
		And that's like what you were saying there, too.
		The idea that he just applies it for political gain is one piece of it.
		But the brain virus does not just work in benign symptoms.
		No.
		It also is hatred.
		It absolutely is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, I think.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's probably not hatred to, like, I hate all Jews because he doesn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what's interesting as a, like, this is a great paper 15 years from now.
		Wherein you, yeah, no, of course.
		But if you consider that anti-Semitism and the way that it has spread throughout Europe and all of those places, that is really the fear of foreign people stealing money, essentially.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because all those blood libel ideas and all that shit was like generally rooted in usury, the idea that Christians can't rent or give out money at interest.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can't lend money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So what is this?
		All of this globalist bullshit, all of that bullshit is the same thing if you just take out Jew from it.
		So your paper is, of course, the metastasization of blood libel and bigotry through the use of the internet and the way that it's connected people.
		One thing that people did not expect from the internet because everybody was like, oh, we're all going to be connected.
		They didn't expect the same bigotry to follow along with it.
		And it's the same bigotry of a small Russian village 150 years ago, seeing, you know, 10 Jews come in and make money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's the same fear on a global scale because now we're all connected to each other.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The racism is just bigger.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's the same racism, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're all Jews, is what I'm saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it always looks like it's going away and then it doesn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's a brain virus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the only way to stop a virus is, of course, to develop a vaccine or kill all of the conservatives politically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think Alex is going to be thrilled at the idea of a vaccine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Politically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm guessing he's not into the vaccine idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What type of vaccine do you think would solve this brain virus?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Clean vaccine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's get a clean vaccine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want to go to the next call.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go with an ass jab.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want to go to the next call.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just a jab in the ass.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not even a needle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't go to the next call.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to go to the next call?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want to go to the next clip because there is not next call for a bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let's go to the next clip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex presented this, like, I'm going to take a bunch of calls.
		And if you disagree with me, now's your chance.
		Come at me, bitch.
		That's all right.
		And instead, he just rambles about how I've looked into Putin.
unidentified		He's great.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is not real.
		Not accurate.
		And then this, which I think he's revealing a little bit about being a bad parent at the beginning of this.
		And then he rambles for a bit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I took one of my daughters to have her tooth removed this morning because it had never come out and the tooth was coming in above it, going into the other tooth.
		So I took her own.
		I never met the dentist.
		They'd been there four or five times the last few years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would argue that that's a sign that you're being a little negligent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If they've been going to the same dentist for a few years.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He said four or five times in the past.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A few years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a consistent dentist that you're going to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but four or five times in the past few years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know how fucking super protective Alex is?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a dad.
		He's got to work.
		I don't know.
		I don't think my dad has ever met a dentist that I went to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe you want to argue that's negligent parenting.
unidentified		I would.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a conversation we can have.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Look, I'll give this one a pass for now.
		But it strikes me as a little bit like my parents met my dentists.
		They wouldn't let me go to a dentist probably that they didn't have met, especially when I was under like 13.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		My parents didn't let me date a dentist until I ran away at 18.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's very Christian of them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But I never met the dentist.
		Dentist come out and shook my hand, was a listener.
		They had the anesthesiologist.
		It's under regulations and laws now.
		Even if somebody gets put on laughing gas, they have an anesthesiologist there to do it because of all the lawsuits and stuff.
		He was a listener, got a photo with me.
		And it was just very humbling that professionals all over are listening to the show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or they're being polite.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because I'll be honest, sometimes I think the show's good, but half the time I'm sick of hearing my voice.
		That's why I have a lot of guests on and other talk show hosts and stuff because I want to build something that's more diverse.
		But we're winning.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's nothing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Everywhere I go, we run into people that are big fans of the show and that, you know, tell me about what was on the show just yesterday.
		So there are a minority of people, mainly white yuppies who are entitled, who will lash out at myself or you or others for promoting freedom, but they are the dwindling minority.
		So there is a lot of hope.
		And as long as the economy is growing and we have optimism and we know what a fraud this Russia investigation is, we know it's not going anywhere.
		But the question is, then what are they going to do as they get more and more angry and more and more violent?
		Hashtag hunt Republicans.
		Hashtag Black Lives Matter.
		Hashtag kill the cops.
		Hashtag go out and beat people up just because you politically disagree with them.
		I mean, what's going to happen with these people?
		That's a big question.
		Okay, I'm going to go to your calls now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hashtag kill the cops and hashtag Black Lives Matter being compared as can't think of any reason why those were right next to each other.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so that's one piece of this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think the other piece of this is that if I found out my dentist listened to InfoWars, I would run.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he doesn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Run.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		An InfoWars dentist?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex's dad isn't even an InfoWarrior.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, his dad is making a lot of money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He works for the CIA.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, he can't anymore.
		He's retired.
		But be that isn't, and he didn't work for the CIA.
		He had one patient who was a CIA.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not important.
		He's a CIA dentist.
		He did all the CIA's dentistry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One time my dad had a guy who was in the service and he came in and he got his tooth worked on and he said some weird stuff under the gas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the extent of the story, I'm sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Be that as it may.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do they really have to really have started to buy their own bullshit that there's nothing in the Russia investigation?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, everybody.
		All of the right-wing people.
		They have to have either that or it's another stalling tactic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's probably what it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, like, that's the only reason.
		Like, once the tax bill is passed, they kind of get it now.
		Like, they got what they want.
		The rich are going to abandon Trump.
		Like, that's going to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think there's a lot more work left to do beyond the taxes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to get to that at the end of the episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's too unstable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why don't you hold on to that for a second?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the unstable, the instability actually works in service of getting these things passed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, but that's what I mean.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Up, there's a lot more to strip mine from this country before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can sleep on a giant pile of money if it's not irradiated.
terrence in washington ▲ ● ▼		It's not going to get to that.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It probably will.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, finally, quite a bit down the road, we get to a second caller.
		Okay.
		And do you want to make a prediction of whether this guy is going to be critical or uncritical?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go with mildly critical.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Interesting theory.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's find out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Terrence in Washington.
		You're on the air.
		Go ahead.
		Thanks for calling.
terrence in washington ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Alex.
terrence in washington ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Good, brother.
terrence in washington ▲ ● ▼		Hey, me and my girlfriend Sabrina have been listeners for a long time.
		I've been listening a lot longer.
		Now, this is just what I like to say to you, Alex, is a human, human to human.
		You know about communication contact.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, do you think that this is a critical call or not a critical call?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go with not a critical call.
terrence in washington ▲ ● ▼		You've caught me.
		Now, this is what I got to say.
		You were a lot more passionate about what you were speaking about when you were trying to save the world besides the politicalness defending Trump.
		Now, are you seeing something in your tarot cards that says you need to put all your chips down on Trump or we're doomed to dead?
		Or do you see any of the fact that keeping Trump right now is leading this race war and a possible civil war?
		Would you give up Trump to keep a civil war from happening?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Terrence, with a great question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we'll see how Alex answers this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the important thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go with not well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Rambly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go with not well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the question at its core is: I mean, the subtext of it is, I mean, one of the underlying assumptions is there will be a civil war if Trump continues to do what he's doing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is a little bit of a weird pretext.
		But he's saying, would you stop supporting Trump if you knew that continuing to support him would lead to the deaths of, let's say, millions of Americans?
		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, I'm guessing his defense towards that will be, I know it's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Beyond that, your prediction will stand as it stands, and we'll see.
		But Beyond that, there's an important piece that Terrence is bringing up at the beginning there, and that is you used to be much more passionate.
		That sort of thing.
		Like, you used to have a fire in you.
		Right.
		And so let's see.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now there's a certain resignation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or there's just you keep beating the same fucking drum.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's boring.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Just do me a favor, turn your radio down, but it's a really good question.
		It's more complex than that.
		It's not that I'm perfect or Trump's perfect.
		It's that he really is challenging the globalist.
		He's destroying their takeover plan of the U.S. and the world.
		And they're trying to destroy him.
		And they're trying to destroy me in the process and my family.
		And so I'm committed and doubled down on an issue of loyalty through this because you know someone by their enemies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So is that a no?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And yeah, you say to all the tarot card show that Trump's the guy.
		It's beyond that.
		It's the fight.
		I mean, you see how the globalists hate Trump and hate the liberty movement and how nationalism is spreading all over the world.
		I mean, I'm supporting nationalism in Brazil and nationalism in England and nationalism in areas of Africa.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So let's look at beyond the Brazil.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's supporting the strip mining of the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Especially Brazil.
unidentified		Man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That one's difficult.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That one's tough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But look at the world leaders that Alex Jones has been firmly in support of.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		UKIP.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not good.
		Maureen Le Pen.
		Not good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Geert Wilders.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not good.
		Nigel Farage.
		Go back to UKIP.
		And then Putin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And hey, I think he just threw Tamer in there as well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is a leader with a 5% approval rating is not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not great.
		Oh, also a leader who has literally been on tape committing crimes, who was not impeached for them.
		He was on tape getting bribes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's be fair to Alex, though.
		It's unclear if he's supporting Tamer or someone else.
		Could be any Brazilian.
		It might be Pele.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know who he's supporting in Brazil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't talk about that too much, but he has referenced, I guess there's a nationalist movement.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go with the white nationalists who took over the government.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or the Sweetlanders in South Africa that he's had on the show.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thrilled.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All of these people seem to have one connection, and it's not fighting the globalists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it seems to be they're scared white people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Could have something to do with it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not sure about in Brazil, but the rest of them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, certainly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely in Brazil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Brazil had one of the most diverse governments until they illegally ramshackled the previous leader, Dilma, and installed an all-white government.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ah, I see.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All-white.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so the trend continues.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The whitest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, we still are not sure how he's answering this question.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And Asia?
		Does it mean that UKIP's a perfect party?
		Does it mean that the parties in Eastern Europe that are breaking away from the EU, that they're perfect?
		No.
		But they understand they're under foreign globalist domination, and the globalists are the big worldwide organized tyranny.
		They're the operatives.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He always sounds like he's trying to chew on something.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like whenever the camera goes away from him, it sounds like he's just taking a bite of a sandwich.
unidentified		Anyway, they're the ones that are the biggest threat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And so I admire Trump for having the courage to fight him and getting a foothold and starting to beat them.
		And that the fight is so close that I'm putting all my energy in to not hedging my bets.
		I mean, I could get up here and only halfway support Trump and not be such a big target.
		But I want to be a big target, just like he is.
		I want to give my full effort and commitment and not half measures in this historical time we're in.
		I want to be counted.
		I want my John Hancock on the Declaration of Independence.
		Do you think all the people on that Declaration of Independence liked each other or agreed with each other?
		Or they were all perfect?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But they were up against an empire that had never been defeated.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they were sick of being ruled by an outsider.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they put it on the line and they were successful and they were victorious.
		And so I smell victory.
		I smelled it three years ago.
		You've seen it happen.
		Now you see the economy coming back.
		Now you see all the changes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's getting played off.
		So he doesn't have to answer them.
		He's in the push.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We were already conquered.
		They're trading in civil war because they want control again.
		They're the outside power.
		We kicked the globalists out.
		Then we can debate things politically and not be so committed one way or the other.
		But right now, this is life and death for this country.
		Stay there, Terrence.
		I'm going to come back and get your response to that.
		Then, John, Jennifer, Chad.
unidentified		So, Alex, my response is the fucked you just say.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm certain Buckley came over to him and, like, dude, first of all, that was nothing.
		That was bananas.
		Three minutes of nothing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bananas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You did not give an answer at all.
		No.
		And you didn't address the important piece of that fan who had a critique of you, which was that you used to be much more passionate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You used to be, before it was all this Trump stuff, you're losing some of your edge.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You used to be cool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so Alex comes back from commercial.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to see some false passion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to see some fake crying.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's pretty good.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		People think being a man is having a bunch of symbols of wealth or acting physically tougher on other men.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that what people think?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I don't.
		But that's this.
		I just wanted to be clear.
		This is right after commercial.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's not what a man does.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		A man does what's right and doesn't back down in the face of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Holding back tears.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Past commitments.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what this is about.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's why people out there always claim that I'm a fraud or I'm a phony because it's the opposite.
		I'm the opposite of a fodder phony.
		I'm willing to do anything to take on these people because I know what they are.
		A bunch of goddamn devil-worship and pedophiles.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I won't apologize for saying that, but it's not the Lord's name in vain.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I hope God damns these people to hell for eternity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I think that's the difference.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I know this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to give my full energy and everything I've got, as imperfect as it is, to taking these people on, and I'm going to pour out everything I've got against them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You sound tired.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because I don't want to be around them or with them and their spirit.
		Because my very heart and my guts tell me they're pure death.
		They're a bunch of cowardly, backstabbing scum.
		And I'm so proud they hate me.
		Let me tell you, it's always scum that gets in my face.
		It's always just, you can always tell.
		Oh, look at that table of scum.
		They're going to come over here and say something.
		Because they're always a bunch of confused, ninnying, rudderless crap that think if they attack somebody that mainstream media hates, somehow they might be somebody by pointing their finger at me and saying there's the bad guy.
		So there's my answer to you, Terrence.
		They could put a gun to my head and say, if you don't come out and say you hate Trump, we're going to blow your brains out.
		I'd say, pull the trigger.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not the question.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've already basically had the Democratic Party and the whole structure try to take my children away from me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that wasn't them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was your ex-wife.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What I think we should.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm on board with that now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I don't want to get mixed up in that, but I will be very clear.
		That was your ex-wife.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was not the globalists or the Democrats.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that was fake as shit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you watch the video, it's super hilarious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just the choking back tears.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		People saying I'm a fraud.
unidentified		And they say that because I'm fake crying right now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because I'm lying about being sad and doing all of those things.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ah, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, people say I'm fake because I fake crying about things that are very innocuous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, Terrence, one more time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What was your question?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not done faking passion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How is he not done?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's on 12 minutes of nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He fakes some passion, some more.
		And then the end of this call is really funny.
		Okay.
		Because it's where I heard the sound effect that I sound effect.
		The sound that I heard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There was like a slide whistle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I believe the sound of Alex taking some booze to the head.
		Okay.
		And then when he'll pause when it happens because how he comes back after taking the shot is what makes me think he was taking a shot.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		See, you have to understand, they're always saying we're Russian collaborators because they're the globalists.
		They're the ones killing the nation state.
		They're the ones bashing having American flags.
		It's their Ninth Circuit saying you can't have an American flag in school.
		Not Donald Trump.
		They're the ones telling you hate America.
		They're the ones telling you the country's bad.
		They're the ones telling you piss on your ancestors.
		Have no respect.
		They're the enemy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, real quick, did he just pop open a bottle right there?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he hit the table.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sounded like a boom.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He might have been cork.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that sounds like a cork.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because we know that Alex doesn't like champagne.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's like the sound.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, when you got a whiskey bottle, that's the sound of a good whiskey bottle popping off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Too high-class whiskey for me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Ninth Circuit Court did not say that you can't have American flags in school.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think we might have talked about that before.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Years old lie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Might have talked about that one before.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So anyway.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're the cancer.
		They're the problem.
		They're what they say we are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Classic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's your question, Terrence.
terrence in washington ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I would say you did.
		And you know what?
		Thank you for the heart in your voice again.
		I need to hear that.
		I'm a strong man like you.
		I'm a 27-year-old male with a daughter who I do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was right there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're only 27.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I heard the.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was right there.
		If you listen very carefully, you can hear something that sounds exactly like someone drinking a high ball.
		And so he says, I have that dude sounds like he's 75.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's Larry Nichols pretending to be a 27-year-old.
unidentified		Now, Alex, I'm 27.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You used to have more passion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Could you go ahead and give me some of that passion?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But in that, like, did I answer your question?
		I think you did.
		I heard that passion again because he was faking it again.
		It's like a fucking dueling piano bar getting a request.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But so he takes that drink.
		And like I said, right before this, what he said, the caller had said is, I'm a 27-year-old man and I have a daughter.
		Now listen to Alex's rejoinder, which I'm certain indicates he was not paying attention.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Kill your children.
terrence in washington ▲ ● ▼		I do think to myself, now, Alex Jones, these globalists can kill you.
		Who cares about me?
		Who cares about you, but my daughter?
		If they threaten to kill my daughter, how do you respond to that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You had globalists threatening to kill your daughter?
terrence in washington ▲ ● ▼		I can only imagine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I heard globalist Kale and daughter.
		That's all I heard.
		I'm just going to put that together in a mad lips.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so fucking obvious that he thought, oh, I might have a sorcerer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
unidentified		He was just, he got so the light came on in his eyes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just the globalist threatening to kill your daughter?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you saying they're actually real?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not paying attention because he was drinking a shot of whiskey or something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, he's just like, fuck it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I can't deal with these fucking people anymore.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's like, wait, did the Globalists threaten to kill your daughter?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which, why the fuck would they?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Weirdo Terrence from wherever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Terrence has got connects.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so this is what they say, no, but if they did, and then so Alex gets back.
terrence in washington ▲ ● ▼		And if this is what's going on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you why they won't threaten your daughter.
		If you have it in your heart to kill anybody that threatens your daughter, that woman won't do it.
		So, you understand?
		You got to be willing to kill for your family so people don't mess with you.
		But you got to have that and they got to know it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck?
unidentified		That is great advice.
unidentified		If you don't want people to threaten to kill your daughter, you have to let them know that you will kill them if they threaten to kill your daughter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Listen.
		I don't know how you would interact with them prior to them threatening to kill your daughter, but just send out a blanket statement, just a press release all across the board.
		Anybody fucks with my daughter, I'll kill them.
		Frankly, here's what you need to do: go to the beach, get a seashell, scream, if you attack my daughter, I'll kill you.
		They'll get it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They'll get the message.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't fucking understand how Alex Jones can be like these moments, these moments that are like, they're literally nothing, but they're the moments that I live for in terms of breaking these episodes down.
		The moments where when he said globalists threatened to murder your daughter, there is a piece of his brain that thought for a second either.
		One of two things.
		One, this caller somehow is important enough that these shadowy globalists would threaten to murder his daughter and he wouldn't lead with that.
		Or he's like, maybe I can convince my audience to think that's real and maybe he'll play along with it.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of those two things had to be what's going through his head.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe this guy's the right kind of crazy for me and we can do a little improv game, little two-man, and then BlockRock and Beats is already playing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he'll answer vaguely.
		We can go out to commercial.
		And then we got him another section here.
		He got cut off.
		Sorry, Terrence, it got cut off.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or whatever.
		He could play that and be like, then the next day on the show, he could be like, hey, the FBI heard that Terrence called in.
		We've taken him in for questioning, and now he's had to flee the country.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I got a week's worth of shit to make out of this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He can play that game.
		Oh, God.
		There's just trying to assume his opportunistic mindset is really one of the only thrills I have left.
		Those moments.
		Wait, the Globalists killed your daughter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now let's talk about blood libel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's boring to me at this point.
		It's just so clear.
		It's just so clear.
		Anyway, Alex has taken two calls.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in the past six and a half hours?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that lasts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are we still in his 37-hour special?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Might as well be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Has he continued to broadcast live this whole time?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that last call took the better part of 15 minutes.
		Yeah.
		Because Alex kept screaming and faking passion and all that stuff.
		So then he comes back from that commercial break, and here's what he has to say.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I love taking calls, but they're also exhausting because they challenge me and they take me to places I wasn't thinking about.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I got a ton of important clips, big breaking news this hour, a bunch of stuff I've got to get to, but I am trying to go to your calls as quickly as I can.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sorry, you're exhausted from what is exhausting you about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it's your techne performance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think he just hates talking to those people.
		I would.
		Yeah, I think he just hates it because he knows he's trapped in a corner of having to either get all of his energy up to fight back against it and make up some bullshit, or he has to pretend to be interested in whatever they're saying because they're a fan.
		He can't just be like, oh, come on in, Terrence.
		You had a great question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what you're saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, I don't really like people like you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, click.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the first call that he had was a guy who brought up a couple of salient points about his past and how it indicates that he's willing to lie on certain occasions, has changed his position on Putin pretty much 180 degrees, and he refuses to release his financial information.
		Those three things are salient points, and Alex can't really respond to any of them without opening himself up to pretty serious attack.
		And so, got a dance.
		That would be exhausting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trying to figure that out on the fly.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		second caller is would you give up trump to save up save people's lives and that's and the answer to that is well you can't really blah blah blah You can't really answer that directly because if you say, yes, I would, then you don't get to play the I would die for Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is what's going to save us from the globalists game.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if you say no, then you are complicit in whatever is going on.
		The escalation of tensions between the left and the right and what have you, you are.
		You're a big part of it.
		So that question is also one you can't really answer straightforward and honestly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But if he says, I mean, he's already essentially answered that question, though, which is that he'll die for Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So why can't he just be like, I would go down with the ship.
		Something like that.
		Like, why can't you know why?
		I know why he can't answer that question.
		I want to know why that question is unanswerable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, because there's a part of his brain, and there's a part of, I mean, I don't know, maybe it's part of the deep recesses of his audience's brain that still remembers that when Trump first started running, Alex said, I don't trust him.
		He's a con man involved with consortiums on the East Coast.
		Like, there is a part of him that knows this is going to break bad.
		This isn't going to end well.
		Eventually, all of these things, these financial misdealings, I mean, the ones that aren't already fucking public, the more serious ones that Trump has been involved with, eventually it will come to light.
		And Alex is going to have to stand to bear for the fact that he pretended that all that stuff wasn't true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he did talk to Roger Stone and Trump all the time.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're good friends.
		And so he's eventually going to have to face the music for that.
		And I think that by waffling around with a direct question, he's able to save himself a little bit of face eventually down the road.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you think he's preparing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not in any way that he's not always preparing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He knows how to hide his guns, that's for sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Restorable food.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If I were one of those guys and I caught the Flynn news, like Manafort, like they're trying to keep Manafort from, like, he, they're trying to deny his bail because he's a flight risk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because, of course, he's a flight risk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's one country he's not going to know that much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The United States.
		Two countries.
		So it's like, it's like there should be.
		You should be able to see the writing on the wall if you're one of those fuckfaces that's that closely aligned.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And so you should have like a bug out bag at least, right?
		Like these guys have to know what's going on.
		They have to know that eventually it's going to come down on them.
		Although, frankly, fuck it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At this point, nothing is real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it might not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who knows?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that Alex probably realizes on some part of his brain that if all of it works out, he's in an even worse position.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because then, I mean, if net neutrality goes through, he's going to lose most of his audience.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because most people, without being cruel, most of his audience can barely afford the internet.
		And a lot of them, and here's a part that I'm not judging them for at all.
		A lot of them live in crazy rural areas that don't have good service with the internet.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And a lot of those places are going to have no coverage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that rule is already gone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's in support of that stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's going to be even worse.
		Like, all of that is going to just pile on and pile on.
		He's going to see his profits dwindle to almost nothing unless there is a despotic situation that ends up coming up and he is the official he becomes a duke.
		Yeah, exactly.
		Oh, learning.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But, I mean, like, that prospect is really dark for him, I think.
		And he doesn't realize it.
		He doesn't realize how much the positions he's advocating for are going to fuck him in the end.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It does seem weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, he should have been briefed on how net neutrality is going to fuck him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, he doesn't read articles.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I know, but he should have somebody who does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's like Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't take briefings.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shouldn't he have somebody who does?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because everybody should have been united for net neutrality except for the telecoms.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, it should have been 100% of us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That kind of speaks to the possibility that Alex Jones is getting big dark money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In which case, he could pay for the fees.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or the people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because anybody who thinks that Comcast or AT ⁇ T were telling the truth when they said they were committed to net neutrality that's insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You are naive.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also the people who would be dictating the positions he takes or subtly influencing the positions he takes would be the ones who are interested in that.
		And so for him to say that it's not net neutrality.
		It's all just a UN takeover of the media.
unidentified		Yeah, but they're going to bail on him when they can.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		These people are so fucking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm looking for a way out of this podcast.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's bail on him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'll be honest with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, so there's a lot...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of rambling.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So fucking stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of rambling that goes on.
		And it's probably like another six minutes or so until we get to the next call.
		And do you think this one's going to be critical or supportive?
unidentified		So far, we've had two relatively critical in a row.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The second critical one was supportive, but just accidentally tougher question than the guy thought he was asking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
unidentified		So let's go with critical.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Patrick in Idaho, thanks for holding her on the ear.
unidentified		You there?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I am.
unidentified		Good.
unidentified		So stemming off of yesterday's conversation, I'm Irish, English, German, French, Basque, Indian, whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I'm just an American.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're drunk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I hear you disagree with me on Russia connection?
unidentified		No, I don't.
unidentified		I think if I can spin a little bit off, I think you're a Polish agent.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And how do you know I'm a Polish agent?
unidentified		Friends, Srnovic, Pacinik, Big Lebowski, all Polish scum.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I actually, there are a lot of people of Polish background that should be fighting the New World Order.
		It's true.
		And I've got friends that are Polish.
		But also, I think Pacinik from Russia.
		I mean, a lot of those are just Slavic names.
		But, you know, people tell Pasovic that he must be a Russian agent because he's Polish.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's other reasons.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Anybody that knows the history knows the Poles don't like the Russians too much.
		There's just a lot of ignorance.
		Just because somebody has a Slavic last name doesn't mean they're Russian.
unidentified		I'm just having fun with you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, Patrick, I hear you.
		It sounds like you've had a lot of fun today.
		Are you smoking dope or are you drinking alcohol today?
unidentified		Neither.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, I got it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We got to catch up with me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I had to pause it there because you cannot talk over this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You cannot even laugh over this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, I got it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We got to catch up with me.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Stop joking.
		I got to go.
		Man, you're something else.
		I got to go.
		That caller sounds for so ridiculous.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		From everything I know about Alex Jones, that's him being like, I'm drunk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You got a ways to go to catch up with me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whenever Alex immediately says, I'm joking, that means he's not joking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whenever he talks about like any number of things that we've gone over, that's his cop-out for oops.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I imagine Alex probably takes a lot of pain pills, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's possible.
		I think he's a pill popper.
		We've had some insinuations or suggestions from the chat room that he's on amphetamines.
		Okay.
		And that's possible, but I think that also could just be the brain force because he has said that in one of his commercials for his new product, The Red Pill, he says that there's no stimulants in it, but there are in brain force.
		There are classical stimulants.
		Yeah.
		And so maybe.
		I mean, I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like cocaine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's on fucking something.
		I don't know.
		I think he'd be a lot more not as tired.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think I like Peter as a listener.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Peter just seems like he's high.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's got a pet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he called, and he's like, this will be fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's either high or he's an idiot.
		Like, that's a bad prank call.
		You know what I mean?
		Yeah.
		If you're just fucking around, you can do better than that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you're drunk, maybe not.
		Anyway, Alex has a critique of the calls at this point.
		And it's not most insightful.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The callers are, some of them have been great.
		Some of them have been okay.
		Some of them have been funny and goofy, like the last guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's taken three calls.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's covered his bases then.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Comedy comes in threes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But what they are is long.
		Just get to your point.
		I'm going to try to make a quick point and move on.
		They have asked some epic questions.
		So some of my answers have taken, you know, 20 minutes.
		So it's mainly my fault.
		I apologize.
		We're going to your calls.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At least he cops to it's my fault.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was going to say, they're long.
		Get to your point.
		Ask your question like literally every single one of you did except for Peter, who was high.
		That was all right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex, the calls would be really short if you didn't scream performatively for half an hour.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, if Trump, if Trump was bad, would you give up Trump because he's just one part of the fight against the globalists?
		Yep.
		All right, next caller.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Moving on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Asked an answer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Super quick call.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in his next clip, he's taking a call and it's very supportive of Trump.
		And it's long and boring, so we don't need to go through it.
		But towards the end of it, the guy is talking about how he's a Christian and how Christianity matters to him.
		And then Alex says this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck Christians.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me throw this in.
		The Bible's replete.
		God judges the heart, not the deeds.
		King David got his best friend killed just so he could have sex with his wife.
		But after he truly repented, God said, you're imagining my own heart.
		Christ said, look at these Pharisees praying up on top of the hill, but behind closed doors, they're super evil.
		Christ was looking for real people that were good and honorable and strong.
		Not that they were perfect.
		God made us.
		God knows us.
		And you're absolutely right.
		Look at the Bible.
		Saul of Tarsus becomes Paul on the road to Damascus.
		He was a horrible person.
		And Trump's not been a horrible person.
		He's a for real guy.
		He's out in the open.
		He's not perfect.
		But he really isn't out to get people.
		He doesn't want austerity.
		He doesn't want to enslave people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So what are the defining characteristics of King David and Saul, who becomes Paul, that doesn't relate to Trump?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Both from Tarsus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They changed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't get it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The point of those stories is recognizing the error of your ways and having a transformative moment.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Try one more time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On the road.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		speak English on the road to what are you saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On the road to Damascus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't understand you, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sees Jesus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Does he speak in French?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Those dudes, very specifically, the point of the stories is that they were bad and they had a coming to Jesus moment that transformed them in every way.
		It transformed everything about them.
		They weren't the same people.
		They didn't hang out with the same people.
		They changed their mode of being.
		Donald Trump has never admitted he's wrong about anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you've read Trump's story, you know that he changed from the thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He changed from, I assume, larvae into Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He blossomed like a butterfly into the sociopathic monster he has been since the age of nine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's an interesting theory that his road to Damascus moment was at age three or something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, something around there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it's just such nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he will.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you know what's fucked up?
		You know what's fucked up in that clip even?
		Is that he's saying, you know, like David, Saul.
		Trump wasn't even bad to begin with.
		He's saying that he's better than King David.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he has less to change.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's never killed his wife.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or he's never killed his friend's wife.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he didn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or he's never killed his friend to fuck his wife.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He'd beat the shit out of his wife all the time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He did fuck other people's wives.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Apparently, yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He didn't have him killed first.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on, that's mean.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		May or may not have had sex with his daughter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Vince Foster did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's in the Bible, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is in the Bible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but then the daughter was at fault.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		King David killed his daughter to have sex with her.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So at this point, Alex is like, all right, we had a great call.
		Maybe we can do this call thing.
		Maybe it's going to work out.
		So he decides to take another call.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's try one more.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's roll those crazy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's try one more time to go back to Tennessee.
		Can you hear me?
		Go ahead, sir.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Oh, I guess Chad hung up.
unidentified		I'm a different caller.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		I'm going to call it.
		I'm not mad, but I don't know what's going on with the phone system, okay?
unidentified		Alex, Alex, I'm going to ask you something.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, go ahead.
unidentified		I'm having trouble.
unidentified		I love your show, and I'll have trouble listening to it because your app doesn't work with iOS 11.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I hear you, brother.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of stuff done to work around here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's delightful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's so good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex, Alex, I have some tech support questions for you.
		Alex, here's what I disagree with you on.
		The new update for iOS.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All these questions should be directed to Rob Dew.
		He's the nerd around here.
		This leads to at least.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So Infowars listeners are the smartest people on the planet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		This leads to at least seven minutes of him rambling about how, like, I have tried so hard to get that app fixed.
		He claims it's a globalist plot.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that there are too many leftists in the tech world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Naturally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's just like, I try, you know, all of Humpty Dumpty's men couldn't put this thing back together.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Get a coder.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I paid someone $600 to make that app eight years ago.
		It's like, oh, boy, you are.
		You're weird.
		You're getting weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he was weird.
		It was very weird.
		But we only have a couple more clips left because he decides at that point, done with calls.
		I have too much news to get through.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think once you get a tech support call on air, time to be done with calls.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have too many clips to get through.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Too much news.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How can you survive without all this news?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of his news time is taken up complaining about Muslims raping people in Sweden.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that narrative is tired.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's an issue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And a lot of the rest of it is him playing a David Horowitz clip, maybe?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dershowitz, Alan Dershowitz.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		David Horowitz is a very different guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he has a Dershowitz clip about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's got a good old-fashioned Dersh clip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's making the argument that Mueller has shown that he has nothing because of this indictment.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's the narrative that's being pitched that all he could get him on was this lying to the FBI.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And now, if that is true, which I don't believe it is, I believe it's leverage.
		But again, I can't prove that.
		That's just my suspicion.
		If it is true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it is true, and it is true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if Flynn pleading guilty to that could get him five years in prison.
		So not enough.
		Not terrible, but at this point in his life, you don't want to do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do not think thighs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Balls.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It seems unlikely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Balls again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It seems unlikely.
		But the other thing that Dershowitz is bringing up in this clip is that because Flynn has been shown to be a liar, he's not going to be a good witness later for anything that he might be proffering and that sort of thing.
		Yeah, probably true.
		But maybe, but that's also super interesting to me because one of the other things that belies is almost the entirety of Alex Jones' narrative that Hillary and Obama fund ISIS is based on Michael Flynn appearing on foreign TV saying things to that effect.
		So if Alex Jones wants to play the game that Mike Flynn is not going to be a credible witness, you might have to re-examine some of the bedrocks of your narratives.
		Anyway, it's not important.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not important.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not going to do that and no one cares.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have something to say about that, but it doesn't matter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's get to this next clip because this is one of the other news stories that he's got to get to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, it's just Peter from Idaho.
		We're going to get back to you.
unidentified		I have another tech support issue.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it's like the most racist crap I've ever heard.
		And they're just spewing.
		And I know it's meant to make me racist.
		I know they want to just divide everybody now.
		They want to get away from the Christian ethos of King David.
		They found an article that's saying dogs are racist.
		Well, it's true that if a dog is being raised by a black family and isn't around a lot of white folks, it might bark at you because it's not used to your color.
		It's true.
		But it's not a racist thing.
		It's that it doesn't recognize you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, anyways, the point is that this is getting crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The point is, what was I talking about?
		Dogs.
		Wait, no.
		The point is not dogs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Point is, shit's going wild.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, like, okay, let's take just the first and most obvious piece of this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who is hosting this shit?
		Is it Nick Cannon?
		Because this is wild now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's making, like, even in his brain, he can't go to, like, white people made a dog racist against black people.
		He's got to say it's a black family with a racist dog.
		White people.
		Fine, it's not racism.
		They just aren't familiar with you.
		So he flashes up on screen the article.
		So I know exactly what it was, and I was able to hunt it down.
		And it is an article from January 3rd, 2013.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right on time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Timely stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why are dogs racist?
		Canine experts speak.
		Again, from four years ago on Gawker, that is no longer a website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No longer an active website.
		Dogs, why are they so racist?
		You know, the type, prancing along as merry as can be until a human of a certain skin tone walks by, and then bang, all of the barking and snarling and biting.
		It's been a source of uncomfortable comedy for years.
		Some dogs are just racist.
		But why?
		We turn to the real live dog psychology experts to find out.
		Linda Michaels, dog psychologist, and Victoria Stillwill, dog trainer.
		Here's their quote.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are they a lesbian couple?
		Because that would make me so happy.
		Oh, no, Victoria.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think Victoria Stilwell is like a dog training school or something like that.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it's one person with a credit.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Although a dog may appear to be racist, that's not possible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Racism requires complex thinking and other higher cognitive functions that canines simply don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you know this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Her answer is it's a fucking dog.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		A dog may react in fear-based aggression to a person of color for two reasons: one, insufficient positive association and early socialization to people of all races.
		Or two, a traumatic incident with a person of color that is now generalized to all people of color.
		Sounds like Alex.
		Sounds like Alex is a dog.
		And that's pretty much the concept.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Her answer is: it's a fucking dog.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shut up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Susie Schaefer's quote: Colorado's Own Dog Whisperer.
		That's her title.
		Dogs are not racist.
		Exclamation point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a fucking dog.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anthony Newman.
		Let's refine the question.
		99% of people who say their dog is racist really mean their dog doesn't seem to like some dark-skinned people.
		Very few cases of dogs tending to dislike light-skinned people are reported.
		Uh-oh, Alex, your example that you just brought up is nonsense.
		But again, he's just, it goes on to say, dog's not racist.
		So even the article that Alex is pointing out is a four-year-old article that makes the opposite point that he's pretending the media is making.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What a fucking idiot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Quick question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can dogs commit blood libel?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I saw an article on Gawker.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good deal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was on dead spin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Way to update that reference.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Still timely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So on this next clip, we're going to go with the last one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I kept this in because it's going to make you furious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Boy, howdy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's end this on an angry note.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Please, mic down until the end of the clip and then feel free to scream.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Even on Fox, they go, Democrats think tax cuts are bad for the Republicans.
		Republicans think they're good.
		You can debate taxes.
		You can debate deficits.
		You can debate the future.
		But tax cuts now to bring back $4 trillion in overseas money and to bring back trillions to middle-class and poor taxpayers is going to cause a giant boom in the economy, bigger than we've already seen.
		Most analysts say a 10% growth rate, 7% to 10%, but 10's the middle.
		Some estimates are 12% because they've had us suppressed so long.
		Now, is that going to be good?
		Just in a Machiavellian way, for the Republicans and for Trump.
		Yeah, it's going to be good to have four to six years of boom.
		Now, if we don't cut, or at least freeze spending, it'll create a big deficit like what happened with Reagan.
		They got the tax cuts, they never got the cuts.
		You've got to freeze the spending.
		Then you cut taxes.
		More money comes in generally because it spurs the economy.
		Then you pay down the debt with that.
		That's what's got to happen.
		Bare minimum, freeze the spending.
		But will tax cuts help the country?
		Does a bear go poo-poo in the woods?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there's a lot of stuff at play there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think one of the things at the end that's super telling is the idea that it's like these tax cuts, and we have to get rid of all of these programs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, oh, do we?
		Are you saying that maybe the entire reason behind those tax cuts is one, to give more money to the rich people, and two, to get rid of all entitlement spending?
		Well, the tax cuts are about cutting Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, and getting rid of Obamacare entirely.
		That's what all the tax cuts are about.
		Doesn't fucking matter.
		That's what they've been going for the entire time.
		They're going to do it in the next two to three years.
		That's the only way.
		And the Democrats are going to fucking roll over on it because they're giant pussies.
		They're fucking pussies.
		It's pathetic.
		Everything about this bullshit is going to destroy the economy for the next 10 years.
		As if we didn't fucking need it destroyed already.
		As if the rich didn't have enough fucking money already.
		These people need to fucking go away.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Every last fucking one of them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you are a fucking fucking fuck this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
unidentified		Fuck this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is fucking lying.
		Do you know what growth is going to come from that fucking tax cut?
		Maybe 1%.
		Maybe.
		And that's going to last for the first six fucking months.
		Because all that regular people are going to wind up getting is less than $1,000 back.
		Less than $1,000 extra.
		And that's only going to last for the first four fucking years.
		If it does at all.
		This is fucking insane.
		He's just lying directly to his people.
		He's lying directly to him.
		He's not fucking dissembling.
		He's not pretending.
		He's not fucking.
		He's lying straight out of his fucking teeth.
		Because it doesn't matter how fucking stupid you are.
		If you don't look at exactly what happened to Reagan and exactly what happened to the first time we tried trickle-down economics, do you know what happened?
		Everybody got fucked.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Yep.
		And that's why it's telling.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I could have gone on for some time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know you got over it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I wanted to start in the Reagan era and then go through how the Democrats have failed us throughout the entire situation.
		Then I wanted to go into the George Bush era, whenever he did his giant fucking tax cut.
		And oh, we need to fucking cut spending and let's go to fucking Iraq.
		And then I want to go into Obama and how he fucking fucked us again the same way the Democrats have always fucking done.
		Since fuck, this is fucking.
		If we don't have an FDR, we get it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We get it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're preaching to the choir.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		I'm sorry.
		I'm fucking furious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just want to find somebody, anybody, anybody to yell at right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm sorry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't take it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
		It's you.
		I'm sorry.
		I'm sorry, Policy Wonks.
		I love you very much.
		This is my fault.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're getting rave reviews for that rant in the chat room.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't fucking.
		How can you actually listen to this shit?
		How can you do this?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How can all of us tough?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How can all of it?
		No, I mean, you can't just listen to the news and they just lie.
		They're lying.
		And the media doesn't fucking do anything.
		They don't just go, that's not fucking true.
		You're a liar.
unidentified		Go away.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, that's all you need to do.
		That's all that needs to be done.
		They don't need any fucking time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Get out of here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jones, get out of here.
unidentified		Go.
unidentified		Just go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're in time out.
		We're not going to allow Mitch McConnell on fucking TV anymore until you stop fucking lying.
		Paul Ryan, I hope you get fucked in the ass by anybody.
		Anybody with a very long thing.
		Doesn't matter how fucking long it is.
		Really long.
		Really fucking long.
		Get in there.
		I want his intestines to be straight.
		No more curls.
		No more miles and miles of just straight a fucking broom right through his goddamn body.
		This is.
		I'm sorry.
		I'm sorry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm just doing a take to the camera there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
		There's no point.
		I'm going to smoke a poison coidle cigarette.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, these are just now becoming your like your aggressive fantasies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't help myself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're Jonesing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is fucking insane.
		They're just lying directly to us, and everybody is so fucking stupid.
		They're just.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What I think is magical, too, about the way that Alex presents it.
		I mean, I agree with most of what you're saying.
		Just for my own safety's sake, I'm going to say some of that violent stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to say just the Paul Ryan part.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everything else is not true, but just the Paul Ryan part.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		I'm for the tax cuts.
		The Paul Ryan stuff right on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, the thing that I would like to speak to is the idea that what Alex is saying is these tax cuts are great, but it's not going to do anything unless we also strip back all of these programs.
		And one of the things that he's accidentally showing his cards on and he's giving away is that the tax cuts aren't going to do anything.
		They're going to get rich people more money.
		What is going to save money is taking away things from people because you're depriving them of things that already cost a ton of money.
		All that money that the rich people are going to save and corporations are going to save by is taken from you.
		And it's not going in.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not going in anywhere.
		At very least, what it's going to do is it's going to stay outside in protected tax shelters and shit like that.
		Do you know what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what generation is?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is entirely about stripping away those things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What generates money for the government is the middle class and the poor having more money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because then they spend that money.
		The wealthy don't spend money.
		They hoard money.
		Or they spend it on bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They invest in speculation and stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And even then, it's not something that's real.
		It's not something that actually goes towards building things.
		If you want the...
		How is it that everybody's still so fucking...
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No one invests in a mom and pop shop in the stock market.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		I know.
		It's so fucking simple and it's historically proven.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not like we've never – it's not like the Republicans are like, hey, guys, we've never tried this shit before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to blow your minds.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The company that I used to work at right before I went on this, whatever this is, is a small business.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This attempt to listen to a crazy man ramble.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a small business.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In two directions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're listening to one there and then one here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I got you coming and going.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this business was a small business.
		And it was run by an individual who was hands-on.
		Like he ended up when times got bad, he had to become a salesman and like help out.
		He was very actively involved, had an office in the building.
		The people who started the company with him were still there.
		In terms of actual in-office employees, there were like 15 or something like that.
		It is a small business.
		They were bringing in, you know, in the realms of a couple million a year or something along those lines.
		It is not a publicly traded company.
unidentified		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't worry now that I've put their business on the streets, but I have not said who they are and whatever.
		I apologize.
		I don't think I broke anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They didn't give you a raise.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They can go find that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
		But investment, stock market stuff, the economy doing better only helps indirectly in very infinitesimal ways.
		It would never buoy them.
		It would never all these businesses on the same level wouldn't be helped by that.
		The middle class growing, the ability for them to give me a raise wouldn't be helped by these tax cuts, that sort of thing.
		All it would do is incentivize them to not cover things for my benefits.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And even if the guy who ran the company was because one of the big things that they do is they lower what's called the pass-through rate.
		So the pass-through rate goes from 35% to 20%, which is massive.
		Because a lot of the companies that do that pass-through rate are investment banks, are those types of things where they classify the investment bank's income as this dude's income as opposed to an actual business.
		You lower that to 20%.
		Like I was saying, even if that guy is doing that, even if that guy is running the pass-through rate, he's not going to get a ton of money back.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not going to be a huge amount for him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But some people, it will be.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And congratulations.
		That's great that we live in a world where this has to be a reality.
		And we have to live in a world where Sam Cedar gets fired from MSNBC.
		And we have to live in a world where now we know pretty much all of our national parks and stuff probably aren't coming.
		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're going away.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have to live in a world where Roy Moore is going to win.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, this can't continue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's going to continue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, not in just a this can't continue like a bad, like this is so bad, we can't allow this to continue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's an unsustainable situation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Every time this has been done, there has been a crash.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There will be a crash because of this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the ensuing difficulty that will come after that is that difficult economic times.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the disparaging, the difference between the haves and have-nots now, let's say, is unsustainable to a very serious degree.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it causes societies to fall apart.
		And when societies fall apart, when they fall apart and everybody has nothing, that's when fascism takes hold.
		That is when you have to really be worried about these things, such as the blood libel narratives that Alex Jones promotes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because you want a strong man to just fix it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The inevitable thing here with these tax cuts and with the direction everything is going is a bubble bursting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because there's a lot of artificial enthusiasm.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look at how high the stock market is right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look at how high it is right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It'll never stop.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's going to end next year.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably, maybe.
		I don't know.
		It's dumb of us to make a prediction of when.
		But when it does, I will make this prediction.
		Alex will blame the globalists.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the GOP will blame the poor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And knowing how Alex Jones' audience is probably pretty clear at this point that we know who the globalists are.
		Yeah.
		It will be very easy for them to scapegoat and blame.
		They'll probably actually go with Muslims.
		It's probably easier.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The only good thing about this is that during those dark times, before fascism takes hold, we will get to kill some people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is going to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There will be a purge.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It always happens.
		Sure, there's going to be a fascist dictator that rises.
		You're Napoleon.
		You're Hitler, whatever you like.
		But in those intervening times, we're going to get to chap some heads off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will politely decline the actually murdering.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I understand, and I agree with you.
		In principle.
		But believe me, when they do come, you're going to come on over to my side.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll help you from the shadows.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're going to be right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, let's not give out our plan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're going to be my campaign murder manager.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll be your Alex Jones.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody's in a better place to do it than you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So if you enjoyed Jordan's rant there, you can check out more of his ramblings on our website, knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Check out his blog.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep, it's on there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's on the bottom.
unidentified		You can also go to click support the show.
unidentified		True.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or you can follow us on Twitter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Knowledge underscore fight.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You could go to the iTunes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		iTunes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The iTunes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Facebook we're also on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And we're doing a lot of different dynamics and octave changes.
		That's what we're going to do from now on.
		And then.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next episode, we'll take calls from critical listeners.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		That would be fun.
		And then I just, you know, there's just one guy who I think is really at fault for all of these tax cuts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I imagine this all of our.
		I think I know who you're talking about.
		Yeah.
		This guy, if you tried to get him in a guillotine, he'd catch that fucking blade in his choppers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's why we're going to start at the feet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's got robot teeth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's got robot teeth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They were made by CIA dentist transmit all of the vaccine information to people all around the world.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Chompa Chompa.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And this guy, the ringleader behind all of this, I just have a few words for him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		John Rappaport, go fuck yourself.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a first-time caller.
		I'm a huge fan.

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