Today, Dan and Jordan dig into the January 21-22, 2016 episodes of the Alex Jones Show. The gents try to figure out why they are still trying to solve a solved mystery, and in the process end up unpacking some crazy lies that Alex is trying to tell about the Chinese and the citizens of Michigan. Also, Dan goes off on Ted Malloch out of nowhere.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| That is what we do. | ||
| Dan, if you were going to sell somebody on this show, you wouldn't just be like, hey, it's two assholes talking about Alex Jones, right? | ||
| I probably would, but I'm modest. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| You're the worst yes-ander in history, by the way. | ||
| I never took an above class. | ||
| You're the worst at it. | ||
| It's brutal. | ||
| Every time I'm like, Dan, answer me this question, and you're like, nah, fuck you. | ||
| I know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| You don't know anything about him. | ||
| I don't know anything about Alex Jones. | ||
| Today we are drinking Space Station Middle Finger by Three Floyds. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Three Floyds is a great brewery here out of Chicago. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And we would like to give the middle finger to the space station? | ||
| Space command. | ||
| We would like to be on the space station giving the middle finger to Earth. | ||
| Space command. | ||
| Space command. | ||
| Space command and spider leadership. | ||
| Middle finger right there. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Take it, spider leadership. | ||
| So, Jordan, today... | ||
| You don't even have a middle finger. | ||
| No, you got a middle leg. | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
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You have two middle legs. | |
| No, they don't. | ||
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They don't. | |
| Yeah, even a number of legs. | ||
| You can't even have middle legs. | ||
| Suck it, spiders. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's our one true advantage. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| We can at least give you a big fuck you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we're going to be going over the January 21st and 22nd episodes in 2016. | ||
| Okay, I briefly thought that it was January 21st. | ||
| I was like, holy shit, is it January already? | ||
| It is not. | ||
| We are in December here, but we're going to take a little trip into the past. | ||
| But before we do... | ||
| We're coming up on about a year of doing this show. | ||
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Indeed we are. | |
| We probably have another week or so after this week. | ||
| So maybe two weeks. | ||
| Because I'm going to be out of town for Christmas, I believe. | ||
| You son of a bitch. | ||
| Yeah, I'm going to probably go visit my brother. | ||
| It's going to be weird when I'm doing the live show by myself. | ||
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It'll just be a rambling monologue of things I hate. | |
| I think it'll appeal to some of our listeners, though. | ||
| I think some of them will enjoy the shit out of that. | ||
| Just email me some clips and I'll play them. | ||
| Stare into your computer and be like... | ||
| What are we doing, guys? | ||
| What the fuck are we doing? | ||
| Specifically, what are we doing? | ||
| What is life? | ||
| But I wanted to take a second, because it's easy to get caught up in how terrible things are, and the world is a mess, and things are scary. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| All across the board. | ||
| But I want to take a second to step back, and really, I think we need to recognize a victory. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That we have, I believe. | ||
| That what we've done, it's taken a year. | ||
| You and me? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I believe that we've gotten to the bottom of Alex Jones. | ||
| Like, not the big picture, but in terms of Trump, I really think that we have explored this in a way that no other organization has done. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think we've completed... | ||
| A remarkable feat of journalism. | ||
| Perhaps exhaustively. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And maybe, sometimes, redundantly. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| The redundancies kind of reinforce the main points. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But be that as it may, and I think at the end of this episode, I'll bring it full circle, I think, I didn't think a year ago when we started this, they're like, you know what, in 11 months we'll sit down and we'll have a pretty good handle on what happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think we do. | ||
| I would say so, yeah. | ||
| I think it's pretty clear. | ||
| Spiders. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Spiders. | ||
| I mean, I'm getting uncomfortable even in this moment because I'm saying positive stuff about us. | ||
| Yeah, you're not good at that. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| I'm not at all. | ||
| Also, you should not be saying us. | ||
| You did a great job. | ||
| Well, I couldn't go without you. | ||
| All the journalism. | ||
| You're giving me credit for any kind of journalistic activity. | ||
| Way off. | ||
| But you and a couple of our listeners also who have been very collaborative in terms of finding things out and bouncing ideas off of. | ||
| I couldn't have done any of that without you guys. | ||
| So don't fucking sell yourself short in this. | ||
| Granted, I have done way more work. | ||
| Thank you! | ||
| Thank you! | ||
| Just accept that my job is dick jokes. | ||
| But at the year's end, I don't feel a ton of... | ||
| Not interest. | ||
| Interest isn't the right word. | ||
| I don't feel a ton of curiosity about Alex Jones and Donald Trump anymore. | ||
| Whereas when we started, that was something that really motivated me. | ||
| This idea of this mystery that we need to solve. | ||
| And to the extent that we've been able to figure out that Alex Jones had an underlying allegiance to Putin that existed before Donald Trump ever got involved. | ||
| Weirdly enough. | ||
| That he was the victim of an influence campaign wherein Russian bots inflated his traffic and confused him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And at the same time, Roger Stone and Steve Pachanek were lying to him and manipulating him with friendly narratives to get him to join up with Trump. | ||
| Right. | ||
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That's the whole story, really, I think. | |
| And he thinks his mom was a dick to him. | ||
| And once you mix in bigotry and stuff like that and white fear, you have exactly the concoction that you need to get him into the position he's in now. | ||
| What can be interesting again? | ||
| As we go into year two, I don't know exactly what shape that's going to take. | ||
| And granted, when we started the show, it was a couple months before we started getting into 2015, that investigation. | ||
| So I don't feel a ton of pressure, but I think one of the things I'm going to do is I'm going to do much more work on Alex's primary sources. | ||
| I believe that one of the guiding principles of year two is going to be debunking the things that he uses as The uh... | ||
| What would you say? | ||
| Keystones in his arguments. | ||
| Ah, yes. | ||
| The waystones that we have used before that he keeps going back to over and over again. | ||
| Well, not so much the waystones because those are like purple penguins. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| And stuff like that. | ||
| Those are little lies that he jumps from. | ||
| You're talking about our Robert David Steele's. | ||
| Not even that because that guy's crazy. | ||
| That guy is crazy. | ||
| I will actually say that another thing I'm going to be doing in year two is getting much more in-depth about the contributors. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The people like Robert David Steele. | ||
| And we're going to do a spin-off show. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| My point is, I guess, I don't know what I'm doing. | ||
| I don't know what I'm saying. | ||
| Your point is we're having a production meeting as we speak right now. | ||
| We're Alex Jones-ing a production meeting on air. | ||
| No, I set out to say, and I mean this, is I raise my glass in victory, I believe, in terms of sorting out Alex Jones' journey to Trump. | ||
| And now I lower my glass. | ||
| In recognition of a new journey to come. | ||
| And I'm not sure exactly what it's going to be, but it'll be something devastating. | ||
| That was a very poetic toast. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| So now let's get to 2016. | ||
| That was like Bilbo Baggins' eleventy-hundredth birthday. | ||
| Or eleventieth birthday. | ||
| Or that scene from Blow. | ||
| It could be like that scene from Blow, too. | ||
| May the wind always be at your back. | ||
| So let's get to 2016, Jordan. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| January 2016. | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| Or as I like to call it, January. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| See. | ||
| So Alex has already switched over to Trump. | ||
| In the middle to end of December of 2015, Roger Stone has shown up as a more frequent contributor. | ||
| And Alex has said as much as it's Trump or die. | ||
| And he's drifted away from politics a little bit. | ||
| He's drifted into a lot more of his cultural narratives and stuff like that. | ||
| But as we get to the end of January, you start to see a little bit of trouble. | ||
| Quick question before you get into your first clip. | ||
| Please. | ||
| I'm doing this before you say, and now we're going to get into our first clip, and that way I don't interrupt you and frustrate you. | ||
| So I'm going to get there before you start the transition. | ||
| That's what I've learned over this 11 months. | ||
| That's right neighborly. | ||
| Do you think, and just from what we know, has Roger Stone ever gotten drunk and tried to make his Richard Nixon tattoo talk to people? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Of course, right? | ||
| A thousand percent. | ||
| He's like he's moved his shoulders a bunch and tried to make his mouth move, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, the things that I've started to learn about Roger Stone's past that we just sort of... | ||
| Taken as read, you know, sort of implied that he has a bunch of shady shit in his past. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Like, it's insane to think that he was... | ||
| Like, I don't judge him for being a libertine or anything like that. | ||
| No, yeah, fuck around, dude. | ||
| The extent to which he was out there. | ||
| There's no way he didn't try and make his tattoo talk. | ||
| Next question. | ||
| He got fired from a campaign. | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| I think it was Reagan. | ||
| Because he got caught... | ||
| Trying to solicit a well-hung dude to swing with him and his wife in a newspaper. | ||
| I feel like that's not an issue. | ||
| I don't care if he did that either. | ||
| Do what you want to do, man. | ||
| But then he said that it wasn't him and someone else was making a prank and then later he's like, nah, it was me. | ||
| Yeah, fucking go for it, man. | ||
| Own up to it. | ||
| But you know what I'm saying. | ||
| Second question. | ||
| Have you read Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone? | ||
| I have not. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The climax of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone has us discovering that Voldemort has been living inside of Professor Buh, and his head is like out the back of his head, right? | ||
| So the face in front is Professor Buh, and then... | ||
| I get what you're trying to say here. | ||
| Is Richard Nixon still alive, Dan? | ||
| Yes, he lives in the ink and the tattoos. | ||
| I knew it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I fucking knew it. | ||
| It's also relevant to season five of Heroes. | ||
| Maybe four? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| The one where the carnival comes around. | ||
| That girl can make prophetic tattoos on people? | ||
| It's a good thing the chat room isn't with us today. | ||
| They would be going after you hard on that. | ||
| That season wasn't reasonable. | ||
| Anyway, let's start with an Out of Context drop from Alex Jones. | ||
| I'm dead. | ||
| Inside. | ||
| We agree. | ||
| We know. | ||
| I was halfway expecting you to just end it after I'm dead, and I'd be like, yeah, okay. | ||
| He's been a ghost this whole time. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have two discreet episodes. | ||
| 20 years ago this day, Alex Jones was struck by a bolt of lightning, died, and then rose again. | ||
| To lie about Trump. | ||
| To lie about everything. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| So, Jordan, today, like I said, we have two episodes that are very distinct in character. | ||
| The first episode is full of grab bag lies. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then the second episode, January 22nd, the first one's January 21st, he gets into a very specific narrative that I think he exposes himself on real hard due to the confrontation of a caller. | ||
| And we have an interesting breakdown to do there. | ||
| But we've got to start. | ||
| We do this always chronologically. | ||
| No jumping around. | ||
| Try and mix up Alex's words and make him seem like he's saying something he didn't say. | ||
| Except for the out-of-context drops. | ||
| Yeah, he's crazy enough for us to enjoy. | ||
| We're going to start with a clip from January 21st. | ||
| And, hey, you're going to get angry up top. | ||
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Great! | |
| We've done the math. | ||
| If there's 6,000 superclass in the world, according to Henry Kissinger and Rothkopf and the Kissinger Group, which I agree with, that's top technicians, top billionaires. | ||
| This is, just to give you some context, Alex Jones believes there's 6,000 globalists in the world. | ||
| He's said this before. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| Yeah, he said that he believes that the ranks of the globalists are about 6,000. | ||
| So he's a globalist witness, is what you're saying. | ||
| Only 6,000 are going to get home, is what he's saying. | ||
| Well, no, because some of them are compartmentalized, and they think they're on a higher level than they actually are. | ||
| No, no, no, thank you. | ||
| This isn't the part you're going to get angry about. | ||
| No, now I'm mathematically frustrated. | ||
| It's going to get worse. | ||
| And then above them, just a few families that control that. | ||
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if you add 6,000 people and then say they have half the wealth of the planet and you divide that out the numbers, I forget, was it 9 or 10 zeros? | |
| 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 But you can do the math. | ||
| I mean, you can look at different estimations of world wealth and then just divide 6,000 people. | ||
| But we'll first cut that wealth in half and then... | ||
| Divide that number 6,000 into that, and then you get a basic percentage point. | ||
| We're not talking about the 1%. | ||
| We're not talking about the 2%. | ||
| The 1% are the people that own a big boat at the harbor. | ||
| They're the people that get their hair done. | ||
| They're the people that buy cars. | ||
| They're the people that buy curtains. | ||
| They're the people that put their kids through college. | ||
| They're the folks that build companies. | ||
| They're the drivers of society. | ||
| They're the renaissance. | ||
| And let me tell you, they're an endangered species just like the great plain buffalo. | ||
| Once there were many, now they're down to about a third of what they were in the 50s all over the world, from Japan to the U.S., and soon they'll be gone. | ||
| And you'll have a tiny, tiny percentage. | ||
| Of people that have basically everything. | ||
| And this is in the age of liberalism. | ||
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The age of high taxes. | |
| So... | ||
| I don't... | ||
| I figured this was going to make you really mad. | ||
| It's more a frustrating word problem in geometry. | ||
| That's what I'm really struggling with here. | ||
| It's algebra. | ||
| If 6,000 people are on a train going from the globalist empire to fucking America, how many of them will ruin the renaissance or whatever the fuck he's talking about? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| You know, when Alex is saying... | ||
| Also, he's wrong about all of this stuff. | ||
| The billionaires have only shot up in number because of the taxes dropping in the 80s. | ||
| He's got this completely backwards. | ||
| He's right that the middle class roles, let's say, have dwindled. | ||
| Now only eight people have half the wealth of the entire fucking world. | ||
| You could make the argument that the middle class... | ||
| Realistically has shrunk. | ||
| Has died. | ||
| But you can't really say that the upper class has shrunk. | ||
| There's more consolidation. | ||
| And to be in this 1% of earners. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Earners. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Heavy quotations. | ||
| Is to be the first against the wall when the revolution comes. | ||
| But that's not you have a boat, Alex. | ||
| Boats. | ||
| Alex has multiple books. | ||
| Good reference, though. | ||
| That's the first thing that comes to mind. | ||
| He's talking about himself. | ||
| He's talking about himself. | ||
| We are the renaissance. | ||
| He provides jobs. | ||
| He provides eight jobs for people who are never going to get jobs anywhere else again. | ||
| But then his other examples are like, they have haircuts. | ||
| That's a good one. | ||
| They put their kids through school and stuff like that. | ||
| Well, yeah, but that's only because they're the 1%. | ||
| The rest of us can't put our kids through school. | ||
| You know, to be considered in 1%, You're making millions of dollars. | ||
| Like, that's not middle class. | ||
| He likes to present it as like, if you make $100,000, you're in the 1%. | ||
| Like, that's not where the cutoff is, baby. | ||
| Where is the cutoff? | ||
| I feel like the cutoff isn't as far away from that as you might imagine. | ||
| It's in the millions. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| The 1%? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think so. | ||
| I think it's like 1.2 million. | ||
| Like, something like that. | ||
| No, no, but that's in the millions. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| Fine, fair enough. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| I thought you, like, millions suggest to me, like, larger than three. | ||
| Well, the difficulty, too, comes into, like, net worth versus fluid worth and accessible capital and stuff like that. | ||
| But be that as it may, it's not people who are, like, just have a good job and get their hair cut. | ||
| That's not the issue. | ||
| He's conflating all sorts of things. | ||
| But it's a brilliant thing to say, because then your listeners, if you go, oh, people put their kids through school and do all of that shit, they're like, well, I do that, so I'm in the top 1%. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If I'm in the top 1%, I want policies that support the top 1%. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Yeah, they get tax cuts, I'm going to get one too. | ||
| Yeah, I'm just as rich as they are. | ||
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Right. | |
| And then you discover, no, you're poor and they're fucking you over. | ||
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Right. | |
| And they have been for the past 40,000 fucking years. | ||
| It's kind of a fun shell game in some ways, but it's just interesting to me anytime someone is like, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Those really rich people? | ||
| They're the Renaissance. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That's like... | ||
| They're definitely not choking the Renaissance to death. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sucking every fucking little piece of lifeblood out of this goddamn planet they can before they fucking die and leave the rest of us to burn. | ||
| So Alex has a lot of thoughts about, like, the times being better in the past and what have you, which is... | ||
| Yeah, which he can go fuck himself there. | ||
| But it's real fun to remember that right now when you have, you know, Roy Moore... | ||
| Probably going to win this week. | ||
| Having come out and literally said times were better in slavery days. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, what the fuck? | ||
| Dude. | ||
| That's, like, you know... | ||
| All that's happening is he's just making the subtext text. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's why he's the perfect Infowars candidate. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| The ultimate truth of Trump's election is just, why were we dog-whistling? | ||
| Shouldn't we have just have whistled? | ||
| Subtlety is hard. | ||
| Yeah, it's lame, too. | ||
| Everybody really just wants us to be like, racism is cool! | ||
| Right. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| We're the new counterculture, Dan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The racists. | ||
| Eh, to some extent. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It does take bravery to be an out-and-out racist who should die in public. | ||
| I'm proud of all of them. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| Good for you guys. | ||
| So here's this next episode. | ||
| You're really sacked up on this one. | ||
| Here's where Alex Jones harkens back to the past again in a very weird way. | ||
| But here's the New York Times. | ||
| America's best days may be behind it. | ||
| And they have a picture of Mary Tyler Moore looking young and devastatingly good-looking. | ||
| I asked a woman like her in her youth. | ||
| That to me is a good-looking woman right there. | ||
| But I digress. | ||
| I'm just admiring God's creatures. | ||
| So we'll get back to that in a second. | ||
| If you take pictures of Mary Tyler Moore and put them up next to pictures of Leanne McAdoo, there's a pretty similar look in the two of them. | ||
| They have a lot of facial similarities. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, it's interesting. | ||
| I'm going to go off the picture that is on... | ||
| The only picture I've ever seen of Leanne McAdoo is the one that you actually just posted on the website recently. | ||
| No, you've seen more than that. | ||
| And let me tell you something. | ||
| There's one huge difference between Mary Tyler Moore and Leanne McAdoo. | ||
| But be that as it may, I think that the fact that he's bringing her up and being like, oh, that's a hot woman. | ||
| Like, in the middle of his politically... | ||
| His political show, ostensibly. | ||
| Yeah, but objectifying women is part of his politics. | ||
| It leads me to believe there's literally no way he's never made a pass at Leanne McAdoo. | ||
| Like, she looks a lot like Mary Tyler Moore, and Alex Jones has just come on air and said Mary Tyler Moore back in the day. | ||
| And then he just came on air. | ||
| Right, he did. | ||
| So anyway. | ||
| Take a look back at some of the most popular TV programs in the 60s, the Dick Van Dyke show, Bewitched, and even Beverly Hillbillies, and what do you see? | ||
| No black people. | ||
| And it goes on to describe all the happiness and all the goodness and then per capita income mirroring what you saw. | ||
| But see, that's when men and women work together. | ||
| We've all been taught to fight with each other now. | ||
| I would like to posit... | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa! | |
| That's when men... | ||
| How many women were on the writing staff of Dick fucking Bandai? | ||
| And I would like to posit this very important clarification. | ||
| The entire storyline of Mary Tyler Moore was about how crazy it is that a woman is working. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| That was when they worked together to figure out what the fuck was going wrong with women being allowed to work. | ||
| Bewitched, the entire story is about an enslaved genie lady. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's I Dream of Genie. | ||
| Bewitched is about an enslaved witch. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| But she's just the wife. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| Enslaved domestically. | ||
| Excuse me, ma 'am. | ||
| Do whatever it is I say. | ||
| I apologize for my confusion there. | ||
| Also, Elizabeth Montgomery. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| What a great-looking woman. | ||
| Still. | ||
| Now, and to be losers. | ||
| And we have all these regulations. | ||
| And we shipped our jobs to China and India. | ||
| We got screwed over. | ||
| We trusted the system. | ||
| What made America great was not trusting the system and sticking together and having local government. | ||
| That's all gone now. | ||
| We all remember those great Nick at Night TV Land episodes where they questioned the government, where Dick Van Dyke was a conspiracy theorist. | ||
| Mary Tyler Moore was like, oh, got to get this fluoride out of the water. | ||
| We all remember how anti-system those were. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Oh, Major Healy. | ||
| I Dream of Jeannie. | ||
| You know, that whole military subplot in it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So stupid. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Those shows are the most. | ||
| Americana. | ||
| Those shows are the most reinforcing of the status quo. | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't get much more implicitly racist than those shows. | ||
| And misogynistic. | ||
| Even Mary Tyler Moore, to the extent that it was about a woman going out on her own and having a job in a male-dominated atmosphere, there's still a ton of shit in that show that is recklessly chauvinistic. | ||
| And some of it done and played for... | ||
| But at the same time... | ||
| And frankly, that's still fucking alive and well. | ||
| Ted Knight should never have been a character on television. | ||
| That guy was crazy. | ||
| Last night I did a show in Freeport fucking Illinois about... | ||
| God's country. | ||
| However far away from Rockford. | ||
| And before the show started... | ||
| One of the people in the crowd was sitting at the bar. | ||
| Crowd, I say seven people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He was sitting at the bar with his girlfriend or wife or whatever the fuck it was. | ||
| I've heard that Three's Company four is a crowd, so seven, that's a huge crowd. | ||
| Seven's a huge crowd. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Prosperity was great back when Three's Company was on. | ||
| He's like, I hope you guys are funny because the last time I was here, there was this lady comic who needed to get punched in the mouth. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And you're like, okay, great. | ||
| I hope you get fucking murdered in the mouth. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| You're the worst. | ||
| That guy. | ||
| It's 2017. | ||
| That's not how you deal with problems. | ||
| You use knives or guns, Dan. | ||
| We've evolved. | ||
| Especially not comedy problems. | ||
| I don't like these jokes. | ||
| I better punch that lady. | ||
| That's a very, yeah. | ||
| We're living in a great world, Dan. | ||
| So, after this point where Alex is harkened back to an imaginary past that didn't exist and misrepresented it, he jumps over to an interesting narrative that he throws around a lot, and I don't think we've really taken the time to get into, so we shall now. | ||
| And it has to do with one of Alex's favorite enemies. | ||
| The chai comms. | ||
| Ooh, those chai comms. | ||
| We need to be angry. | ||
| We need to be upset. | ||
| We need to be in the system's face saying, we know you're criminals. | ||
| One thing Donald Trump says that is not true, we got the Donald Trump news coming up in the next segment, there's a lot of it, is he says we have stupid leaders. | ||
| We have idiot negotiators. | ||
| We have people screwing America over, making nothing but bad deals. | ||
| No, there have been global combine meetings, many of which have been leaked, many of which Judicial Watch and others have sued and gotten, at these North American Union and other global confabs where we learn what happens. | ||
| Agreements were made to give China rare earth minerals worldwide. | ||
| That's why they get 97% of rare earth minerals. | ||
| Just a snapshot. | ||
| Google it. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| China gets 97% of rare earth minerals. | ||
| So whenever Alex says Google it, that's my cue to look into something that he's clearly lying about. | ||
| So one of the things that's actually really interesting is that Alex in the past was correct. | ||
| He needs to update his statistics. | ||
| But there was a time in fairly recent memory where China was responsible for and had their hand in 97% of rare earth mineral sales. | ||
| The market. | ||
| Of rare earth minerals. | ||
| They only had control over something to the tune of 30% of the world's rare earth minerals. | ||
| There are mines in California, Australia, all over the place. | ||
| But the issue is that those mines were not feasible. | ||
| We could very easily get our own rare earth minerals from in California, other places. | ||
| But it would cost more. | ||
| Well, that is part of it. | ||
| It's so fucking hard to get rare earth minerals. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Then why would you call them rare? | ||
| Oh no, now I get it. | ||
| They're not that rare. | ||
| They become rare. | ||
| It's a misnomer slightly. | ||
| They're rare because of the difficulty in getting them. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| No, that's what rare means. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| But they're plentiful in the crust of the earth. | ||
| It's just that once you get it out and make them usable, they become rare. | ||
| But also, the process is crazy polluting. | ||
| It's insanely polluting. | ||
| And for the last couple decades, China has much laxer environmental standards for their businesses. | ||
| And so, as we came into the modern age and the EPA got strengthened underneath Clinton, underneath Bush... | ||
| Do you mean destroyed prosperity? | ||
| Right. | ||
| All of these presidents have boosted EPA standards until currently. | ||
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| It became a thing where it was just not feasible. | ||
| It wasn't worth it. | ||
| China was producing these things in a way that was environmentally unsound, but they produced them in such a way that we could buy all we needed from them. | ||
| It was no big deal. | ||
| Let me explain to you here. | ||
| This is from an article in Gizmodo where they get into the extraction of rare earth minerals. | ||
| I'm just going to read you how you have to get them out of the earth. | ||
| This is going to be riveting stuff. | ||
| The first step in extracting rare earth oxides from the surrounding rock is to crush the rocks and grind them into a fine powder. | ||
| This is passed through a series of tanks where the rare earth elements float to the top. | ||
| Could you read this in the voice of, like, the Discovery Channel's how it gets made? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Unwanted minerals sink to the bottom, and this hazardous waste material, called tailings, is sent to ponds for storage. | ||
| Meanwhile, the resulting concentrate of rare earth metals is roasted in kilns and then dissolved in acid. | ||
| The fraction of the resulting slush that contains rare earths in the form of mixed metal oxides is removed. | ||
| Finally, a solvent is neutralized. | ||
| The reaction generates a lot of salt. | ||
| When the Mountain Pass mine in California was running at full capacity in the 1990s, it produced as much as 850 gallons of salty wastewater every minute, every day of the year. | ||
| This waste also contained radioactive thorium and uranium, which collected a scale inside the pipe that delivered the wastewater to evaporation ponds 11 miles away. | ||
| Several times in the 1990s, cleaning operations intended to remove the built-up scale caused the pipeline to burst, spilling hundreds of thousands of gallons of hazardous waste into the desert. | ||
| The state of California ordered Molycor, which was then a unit of the oil company Unocal. | ||
| Molycor? | ||
| Molycorp. | ||
| Molycorp. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I thought that was like a punk band. | ||
| Yeah, it's like an E-based, MDMA-based punk band, you know? | ||
| They're really molycore. | ||
| Isn't that what... | ||
| That is a genre. | ||
| Isn't that Zach Braff's movies? | ||
| Aren't those molycore? | ||
| I would say so. | ||
| So they were ordered to clean up the waste. | ||
| In 2002, the company, already struggling to make a profit, ran out of space to store its tailings and failed to secure a permit to build a new storage facility. | ||
| The mine shut down. | ||
| So it's just incredibly... | ||
| Hard process. | ||
| So what you just described to me is even worse than fracking in the Keystone Pipeline. | ||
| More or less, yeah. | ||
| You're saying that it's impossible to get all this shit without killing all of that shit. | ||
| That's basically what you described. | ||
| Basically, yeah. | ||
| And experts know that. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| That's why they're fucking experts. | ||
| So now the fear became in 2010, in September of 2010, there came on a very severe fear that people started to realize that China has control of almost all the trade of these rare earth minerals. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But as we know from Trump's policies, monopolies are great. | ||
| They work out well for everybody, right? | ||
| Well, see, the thing is... | ||
| No. | ||
| But also, these minerals are needed for components in a lot of electronics, some military hardware, and stuff like that. | ||
| So it's not like we can do without them. | ||
| No, of course. | ||
| So there was a maritime... | ||
| Like nickel and gold are some of the best things to put inside your fucking phone. | ||
| That's why so many phones are made, you know. | ||
| Rare Earth minerals aren't things like that. | ||
| Oh, it's more like... | ||
| You don't know the names of any of these metals. | ||
| They're insane. | ||
| Give me some metal names. | ||
| I had a list pulled up, but it doesn't matter. | ||
| Iron Maiden. | ||
| I know those names. | ||
| It's not metals you've ever heard of. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Give me one metal. | ||
| Death metal. | ||
| I've heard of death metal. | ||
| So, here's the thing. | ||
| I just want one metal. | ||
| Come on, give me one metal. | ||
| There's like calitite, stuff like that. | ||
| Who doesn't know calitite? | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| It's from Cali. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
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| So there was a maritime dispute in September 2010. | ||
| A beautiful woman named Callie Type. | ||
| Japan detained the captain of a Chinese fishing trawler, which had collided with two Japanese Coast Guard vessels. | ||
| China responded by announcing that it would halt all shipments of rare earth elements to Japan, which used the imported metals in several high-tech industries. | ||
| So they used it like a big dick. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Japan immediately released the Chinese fishing captain. | ||
| The New York Times declared that it was a humiliating retreat for Tokyo. | ||
| So, at this point, everybody started to get really scared about the idea that China could now flout any rules that they want and be like, fine, you don't get any of our medals. | ||
| Yeah, monopolies are great. | ||
| And the issue became, if we wanted to start extracting from California or from these other countries that are much more friendly, like Australia... | ||
| We would have to kill the red hot chili peppers. | ||
| We'd have to do that. | ||
| That's the first step. | ||
| We would pollute the environment terribly. | ||
| And a report from the Government Accountability Office warned that, quote, rebuilding the U.S. rare earth supply chain may take up to 15 years. | ||
| And so it became a thing where, like, fuck, China has this massive weapon against us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Alex thinks that's the case. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And there's a number of reasons for that. | ||
| It didn't work out. | ||
| This whole idea that China was going to be able to restrict the supply and cut off all rare earth elements to everywhere, it hasn't materialized since then. | ||
| They haven't made these threats, and even the blockade in Japan wouldn't have worked for a number of reasons. | ||
| The first of which is that there's tons of small mining corporations, companies within China that aren't controlled by the state, that are operating fairly illegally. | ||
| They're going to scab. | ||
| But yeah, they... | ||
| We export currently 20,000 to 30,000 tons of rare earth minerals every year, which would be enough for the United States to cover all of the things that they need. | ||
| Further, we really don't need much of it. | ||
| And we have a bunch that we've already bought. | ||
| And if we could recycle it effectively, we wouldn't need much of it ever. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| I mean, no, no, no. | ||
| Like, we can recycle it effectively. | ||
| We just don't. | ||
| Like, if every time you got a new phone, you recycled your own phone, that is a new phone. | ||
| Like, that is how much of that rare earth metal and mineral kind of stuff that we need. | ||
| You can recycle it almost to 100%. | ||
| Well, now you're bringing up a phone. | ||
| It only takes a few grams of this metal called neodymium. | ||
| Oh, I know that one really. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| In order to have all you need for the phone. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And so it's a very, very, very small amount. | ||
| Even when you consider the number of phones, it's really not that much. | ||
| And that's why there's so many ODs whenever people snort it. | ||
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It's true. | |
| Because you don't need that much to get a good high. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| It's absolutely true. | ||
| You need a neodymium bag. | ||
| So beyond that, companies... | ||
| Come on now. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| So beyond that... | ||
| In the wake of the 2010 standoff, if you want to even call it that, with Japan, companies like Molly Kors Division Magnaquench started looking into... | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Say that name one more time. | ||
| MagnaQuent. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That's good stuff. | ||
| That's a good startup, man. | ||
| That is a great Gatorade flavor is what that is. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So they started to find ways to make the same products without using rare earth minerals, and there was a bunch of success in that, so the demand started to go down even without any worry of this really... | ||
| A lot of the times if you limit resources necessary to make something, the necessity of making it requires an innovation to get around that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that will... | ||
| On average, work out eventually. | ||
| And then also just a bunch of other people in countries like Canada, South Africa, Kazakhstan, Malaysia. | ||
| They've started doing very environmentally unfriendly mining. | ||
| You know it's environmentally unfriendly if Kazakhstan makes the list. | ||
| Top countries, if Kazakhstan is in that list, it's not going to be good for the environment. | ||
| So at this point in 2017, the power of and the percentage is not 97% anymore, but Alex is citing old statistics and not giving any context into why did it get to that point and what has happened since. | ||
| He's still operating in a 2010 mentality where he's afraid that the Chinese are going to just say, fuck it, you guys don't get any rare earth metals anymore and there's nothing we can do. | ||
| That's not at all the case. | ||
| The embargo threat is completely empty. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| So there's that. | ||
| Alex is dumb. | ||
| Anyway, let's get to this next clip where he talks more about how China sucks, and then we'll explore these ideas. | ||
| If a U.S. company tries to go anywhere in the world and get rare earth minerals, the That's a whole other scandal. | ||
| You think they're just shutting off our coal plants? | ||
| You think they're just setting up internal tariffs with regulations to make our jobs go to China? | ||
| They're hitting us on thousands of precision warfare economic fronts. | ||
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| I mean, holding this country down has been incredibly hard for the globalists, but they've done it. | ||
| While using all our money to build a giant military that fights to build the world government. | ||
| And then we get the blame. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| China gets all of our major deepwater ports east and west coast. | ||
| China gets the Panama Canal for free. | ||
| We built it. | ||
| We run it. | ||
| The only passage from... | ||
| The Atlantic into the Pacific. | ||
| Other than going around the horn. | ||
| We give them something worth an estimated five trillion dollars in a treaty. | ||
| Not a treaty. | ||
| In 1979 and then it's transferred in 2000 and Congress couldn't even stop it. | ||
| Can we just keep going forever? | ||
| Our last lead smelting plant closed. | ||
| We can't even produce bullets in America. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| We'll never get them now. | ||
| China doesn't really own the Panama Canal, but they bought some ports around the sides. | ||
| If I remember correctly, aren't we? | ||
| Well, I'm not sure if we do own the Panama Canal, but I know we're not supposed to. | ||
| Not anymore. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We were supposed to give up control of it. | ||
| So Panama, I believe. | ||
| I think fairly recently, yeah. | ||
| I'm not sure if we did that or not. | ||
| I feel like I remember reading news where it was like, yeah, we were supposed to do that, but we're kind of America, so we're not. | ||
| Here's an article from... | ||
| A place called The Trumpet about this. | ||
| For more than 100 years, the Panama Canal has controlled the bulk goods transferred from the Pacific to Atlantic. | ||
| For most of that history, this monumental feat of engineering was under the control of the United States. | ||
| But this is no longer the case. | ||
| In May, Panama's largest port was purchased by a Chinese company called Landbridge Group. | ||
| Margarita Island Port, on the canal's Atlantic side, offers the company intimate access to one of the most important goods distribution centers in the world. | ||
| While promising to upgrade the ailing Panama facilities and offer more trade with America's distant east coast, there is substantial reason to hesitate at the purchase of such a critical hub. | ||
| And that isn't just in the dangers of them shutting it down, but they're not going to do that. | ||
| That's absurd. | ||
| Nobody would do that. | ||
| No. | ||
| It would be World War III. | ||
| It would be an act of war, first of all. | ||
| It's not in their economic interests. | ||
| No. | ||
| There's literally no reason to do that. | ||
| Other than just fucking shit up. | ||
| So now to the idea that we just gave it to them. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| This company has signed a $900 million deal to control Panama's Margarita Island port. | ||
| With Jimmy Buffett. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He was an angel investor in that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They bought it. | ||
| Now, whether $900 million is too little for something that could be worth in the billions, that's an issue for whoever sold it, and I don't really care. | ||
| Now, to the issue at the end there, Alex is telling us that we can't even create bullets in America anymore. | ||
| That's really sad. | ||
| That's a tragedy. | ||
| That's really sad. | ||
| Where will we get our bullets from, Dan? | ||
| I've pulled up four companies, a very easy Google search, that sell American-made bullets. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| ReddingReloading.com, R-E-D-D-I-N-G dash Reloading.com. | ||
| If you go to their website, they have a very large Made in the USA thing at the bottom of the page. | ||
| Oh, and on the top of the page in their banner, Made in the USA. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| Vector Bullets is another one. | ||
| Right here, as soon as you open up the website, vectorbullets.com, made in the USA, prominently displayed on the thing. | ||
| You got another one here, precisionammunition.com. | ||
| They are located out of Charleston, South Carolina. | ||
| That's their contact information. | ||
| If you go into their About Us page, they talk about how all of their bullets are created in-house at their facility. | ||
| Okay, before you go any further, though. | ||
| I have one more. | ||
| I have one more. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Shop Corbin. | ||
| S-H-O-P-C-O-R-B-O-N dot com if you go there. | ||
| And they're about me, Paige. | ||
| Proudly, we are still an American family-owned and operated business. | ||
| As a family of shooters, we at Corbin understand your needs. | ||
| They have another Made in America thing here. | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| I've lost it in terms of this paragraph. | ||
| But, yeah, they make their own bullets and what have you. | ||
| Now, here is the... | ||
| Oh, wait, there's another one. | ||
| Here's the only difference I'll give to Alex. | ||
| Sorry, another one. | ||
| Freedomammunitions.com. | ||
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| Freedom Ammunitions is proud to offer high-quality new and remanufactured ammunition utilizing the highest-grade components available. | ||
| And a big old Made in America sticker. | ||
| And, ooh, there's even pictures of them making the ammunition at their warehouse. | ||
| Or, I don't know if it's a warehouse, but, you know, whatever. | ||
| All of our freedom munitions ammo is loaded on the ammo load Mark X and Mark L. We make these in-house. | ||
| All of our ammunition is manufactured in-house at our factory in Idaho. | ||
| Here is my defense to Alex on this one. | ||
| This will be fun. | ||
| If his argument is that it is a lead smelting issue... | ||
| Simply because the bullets are made in America does not necessarily mean that the raw materials come from America. | ||
| I'm so glad you brought that up. | ||
| Dan, are you glad I brought that up? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So, in 2014, and this is absolutely what Alex is operating off of, a chain email went around. | ||
| Okay, so when you say chain email... | ||
| I say... | ||
| Grandma. | ||
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| Yep. | ||
| There was a chain email that said, We, the American public, have been blindsided again by the Obama crowd. | ||
| Last lead smelting plant gone. | ||
| The email goes on to blame the evil protection agency. | ||
| That's the environmental protection agency. | ||
| These guys are clever. | ||
| For shutting down the last smelting plant, calling it a backdoor gun control, and saying it will result in the cost of bullets soaring. | ||
| So this is in reference to a place called the Dorun lead smelting plant in Herculaneum, Missouri. | ||
| That's another rare earth metal. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Herculaneum? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm sure that Missourians don't pronounce it that way either. | ||
| I can't even imagine how they twang that shit up. | ||
| And I say that as a Missourian, so I am in good territory. | ||
| Not if you're still in Missouri. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So the issue is that this was the last lead smelting plant. | ||
| In the United States. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it did close during the Obama administration. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| But it is unclear that the EPA actually had anything to do with it. | ||
| Because the EPA made a bunch of complaints and they fined them a bit. | ||
| They fixed up the stuff that they needed to fix up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then a couple years later they closed down. | ||
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| There's no indication necessarily that they needed to... | ||
| Shut down because of EPA regulation. | ||
| It could just be like this isn't viable anymore. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the issue is 80% of all lead produced in the United States is used for vehicle batteries, basically, or stationary batteries. | ||
| Now, the dough run smelter... | ||
| The other 20% is for the paint that I had on my walls growing up. | ||
| Or Flint's water, which we'll get to in a little bit. | ||
| Oh, goddammit! | ||
| We'll get to that in a little bit. | ||
| Fuck! | ||
| So they... | ||
| Alex doesn't deal with the reality of this Doe Run smelting plant. | ||
| They close down their primary smelter. | ||
| And that is what takes ore and turns it into metal. | ||
| A smelter. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That is very pollutant. | ||
| It is very costly, taking ore and turning it into metal. | ||
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| What is much cheaper and not as pollutant is a secondary smelter. | ||
| A smelter that takes lead and turns it into other lead. | ||
| Takes batteries and recycles them into lead. | ||
| So are you saying that recycling is cheaper and effective? | ||
| And the company is still running using their secondary smelter. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| And a lot of them still do exist. | ||
| A bunch of this is, you know... | ||
| In the U.S., the recycle rate of these batteries is approximately 98%, making lead-based batteries the most highly recycled consumer product, the company said in a statement. | ||
| These batteries are recycled at secondary lead smelters. | ||
| We own such a smelter in southern Missouri. | ||
| In our previous fact check, this is from PolitiFact, Doe Run spokesman Tammy Stanky, I like that. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Doe Run spokesman Tammy Stanky told us that the company, quote, will continue to supply our ammo customers using secondary lead, which is great. | ||
| So Alex's narratives are completely busted. | ||
| You know, but it's not as effective as primary lead. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| You can only make bullets. | ||
| You can only make the good bullets out of primary lead. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| You can't cut it with battery bullshit. | ||
| You got to get it straight from the ground. | ||
| So they checked back in with Stanky again. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Because this is in reference to... | ||
| Stanky was one of Fat Albert's friends, right? | ||
| So what she said was our primary smelter did close but we are still supplying ammo customers through our secondary smelter. | ||
| We do know that primary lead is still being imported to the United States but we don't know if it's specific to ammunition suppliers. | ||
| There are many other uses of lead. | ||
| So Alex is just fucking lying through his teeth. | ||
| The idea that China owns... | ||
| And is somehow going to threaten us through the Panama Canal is nonsense. | ||
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| The idea that they own a monopoly on rare earth minerals and somehow that's a threat is nonsense. | ||
| The idea that we don't make bullets in America is fucking stupid and based off a chain email. | ||
| He's so dumb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
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| This is where I get so excited. | ||
| When things like this happen, I'm like, oh, this is all wrong. | ||
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| I just get like, this is why we do the show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I sink my teeth into something. | ||
| He's got bullet points that are wrong. | ||
| All right. | ||
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| Hey. | ||
| So here's the next clip where Alex says something that, thanks to our investigation into 2015, we know he's being a hypocrite. | ||
| Trump has now come out and responded to Glenn Beck, who's constantly attacking him, saying he's a Hillary plant. | ||
| I see no evidence of that. | ||
| Well, you did. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| He spent the better part of six months saying he's a Hillary Clinton player. | ||
| Pretty much. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So here's the next one where Alex gets really hypocritical about his feelings about Trump. | ||
| And you can just see indications that as of the beginning of 2016, something fundamental has changed. | ||
| Because it's not just like, I've decided I like him. | ||
| It's retconning all of the past. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But Trump's now history. | ||
| He's got the whole establishment against him. | ||
| Even if he hasn't been perfect in the past, he wants to be president. | ||
| He wants to be the guy that's the turnaround executive that helps save America. | ||
| And that's not in the globalist plan. | ||
| So look for him to blow up his airplane or shoot him or put dead bodies in his backyard or say he's a child molester. | ||
| I mean, get ready, folks. | ||
| They're going to pull out the stops. | ||
| Say he's a mafia, Don. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| People are really... | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| Somebody's going to say he's a mafia, Don. | ||
| I can't imagine anybody saying that. | ||
| Just for fun, let's go back to July 3rd, 2015. | ||
| You go and you show at the university four or five palace-sized houses, $40 million, $13 million, you name it. | ||
| And you say, is this Donald Trump's? | ||
| Everybody thinks he's the richest guy. | ||
| The guy's literally nothing. | ||
| Kind of just a front man for some consortiums on the East Coast. | ||
| I'll leave it at that. | ||
| Oh yeah, Trump's a piece of work, folks. | ||
| And they go in there. | ||
| It's just mind-blowing. | ||
| I don't even know what to say anymore. | ||
| So let's get to this other clip from July 12, 2015. | ||
| Gambling, if you want to do it, is your issue. | ||
| But Donald Trump owns a bunch of casinos. | ||
| Donald Trump's involved in a bunch of stuff. | ||
| He's basically a front man for some very hardcore people. | ||
| And he gives tons of money to the Democratic Party, more to Democrats than Republicans in the last 30 years. | ||
| So you can bet this is all as phony as a $3 bill. | ||
| And Donald Trump, I have it from high-level sources, is, well, let's just say, with a name like Trump, they don't come after you with a name like Carleone. | ||
| Don Trump will be back. | ||
| Stay with us. | ||
| I'm Alex Jones. | ||
| You want the truth? | ||
| Can you handle it? | ||
| You're going to get it. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I would hate for the globalists to call him a mafia Don. | ||
| They would do it, too. | ||
| They wouldn't even stop. | ||
| They wouldn't even have the regular human decency to not call him a Don. | ||
| Don Trump. | ||
| They would never hold back. | ||
| Are you ready for the truth? | ||
| Can you handle it? | ||
| I can handle it. | ||
| What an asshole. | ||
| What an idiot. | ||
| So fucking stupid. | ||
| Why does he leave these shows up? | ||
| That's the one mystery I want to get to the bottom of. | ||
| I wrestle with this a lot. | ||
| Do you not know that nothing you... | ||
| Well, the only thing that I can think of is he knows nothing he says means anything, so fucking why not? | ||
| I think there's two things. | ||
| One, he wouldn't count on an enemy like me who would listen. | ||
| Back. | ||
| Yeah, because you're insane. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that's one thing. | ||
| He doesn't think... | ||
| He wouldn't count on a superhero to counteract his supervillain. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is like the movie Unbreakable, Dan. | ||
| You're Bruce Willis. | ||
| I'm okay with that. | ||
| But you'd be played by... | ||
| Be careful. | ||
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So, the other thing, I think he's... | |
| Kevin Smith. | ||
| All right, never mind. | ||
| All right, I'm getting out of here. | ||
| I never wear jorts. | ||
| I'm just kidding with you. | ||
| So... | ||
| The other thing he's banking on is the same thing he does when he says, like, go read this book. | ||
| Go Google it. | ||
| He knows that no one's going to do it, and so he has that same confidence in, like, I don't care if all these episodes are up. | ||
| No one's going to listen to this. | ||
| It's three fucking hours long. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| What kind of crazy person would listen back to see what I said? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And it's fucking, it's so crazy just to be completely, literally contradicting yourself within the span of six months. | ||
| Yeah, what is he a religious person? | ||
| Well, yes, he is. | ||
| But to be foundationally contradicting yourself. | ||
| The globalists are going to say he's a fucking mafia guy six months earlier. | ||
| I have from high-level sources, he's a mafia guy. | ||
| Were his high-level sources globalists? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Is Alex a secret globalist? | ||
| Could be. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| Controlled opposition, Dan. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex Jones gets down to business with talking about some war fears, maybe, a little bit. | ||
| About Mulan? | ||
| Yeah, let's see what happens. | ||
| People are really getting it now. | ||
| And as a culture, you just say no, it's over. | ||
| Unless they get a full prison grid in over you. | ||
| I want to get to this Reuters article on Russia. | ||
| Real quick, before he gets into this, he doesn't actually develop his feelings on it, but this is an article about that guy who got poisoned with polonium. | ||
| The guy who was clearly a hit job by Putin. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Great man Putin who would never do anything like this. | ||
| There's an article that's come out from the UK Intelligence Services investigation that there's a really good chance that Putin was signed off on this. | ||
| There's a 100% chance. | ||
| Why would you pretend that there wasn't? | ||
| They can't say that, though, with 100% certainty. | ||
| But yeah, you can. | ||
| We can. | ||
| Because, of course. | ||
| But there's standards and practices. | ||
| It doesn't even need for him to have signed off on it. | ||
| Somebody told him that, and he was like, fuck yeah. | ||
| Like, that's it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He gave the Tony Danza. | ||
| So, that's the article that he's talking about. | ||
| And his response is, the evidence isn't compelling. | ||
| It's not convincing. | ||
| I don't see any evidence that Putin did this. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
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It is every country's right to kill off their own secret agents. | |
| That's not how that works. | ||
| I mean, maybe it is. | ||
| I don't know the rules of that. | ||
| He rambles for about five minutes about how, like, I don't think Putin did this. | ||
| And then he's like, there's a 50% chance Russia did this. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| What are you fucking doing? | ||
| Hey, it's a coin flip! | ||
| There's no analysis. | ||
| There's nothing at all. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| But hold on. | ||
| Does he ever say people aren't getting it now? | ||
| Like, we hear him say, like, people are really starting to get it now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's like... | ||
| They're always... | ||
| Make a note of that and save it for the end, because we're going to get back to this exact thought in a very important way. | ||
| Save it for the end. | ||
| But for now, let's see how the rest of this clip plays out, where he has introduced the idea of this story about Russia. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which signals a big shift towards conflict, towards war. | ||
| Before we do that, though... | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen... | ||
| I don't steer you wrong. | ||
| I really bust my hind in and I bust my gray matter trying to really bring you the best products. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Oh, add pivot. | ||
| Damn it, Dan! | ||
| You didn't even know that was happening. | ||
| I had no idea that one was coming. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| How am I still not on it all the time? | ||
| Well, because he brags about himself a lot. | ||
| So that one could have been... | ||
| Because I feel like people are really getting it now whenever an ad pivot is going to happen, and it's just not me. | ||
| It's interesting because that ad pivot, I bust my gray matter in my butt, that could have been a, I do it to get all the truth to you. | ||
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Exactly! | |
| It's a nefarious pivot. | ||
| What a solid ad pivot. | ||
| Yeah, pretty strong. | ||
| Still caught me by surprise. | ||
| After almost a year, I'm still like... | ||
| There's no way this is going to be an ad! | ||
| No way it's this disgraceful. | ||
| Everything is an ad! | ||
| Everything. | ||
| So, at this point in January, the Flint lead in the water crisis was at a point that even Alex could not ignore. | ||
| Yeah, everybody was... | ||
| Thank God everybody's finally paid attention to it and really gotten to the bottom of it and solved that problem. | ||
| It hit a flashpoint and Alex couldn't ignore it, so he decided to talk about it. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I've left out a lot of... | ||
| This, because it's nonsense. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I will give you three bullet points he has. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| First, fuck Michael Moore. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| Second, this is the city's problem. | ||
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No. | |
| It's great. | ||
| And then third, why are we talking about this? | ||
| Everyone's got fluoride. | ||
| Like, hmm, interesting narrative. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Interesting narrative. | ||
| That's really comprehensive. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like, he gets to all the parts he wants to get to. | ||
| Yeah, he uses all of the buffalo. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Except it's not a buffalo. | ||
| Except it's people who are dying and getting sick. | ||
| So, I have left this clip in because I think it's probably the most important and most demonstrative of Alex Jones' feelings. | ||
| And I should say, this is while he's on the phone with Leanne McAdoo, who is in Flint. | ||
| She went and did some field pieces. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| And so she is in Flint, but he keeps saying that it's too cold for her Skype to work. | ||
| That is not how that works. | ||
| So he's like, oh, her Skype's breaking up. | ||
| It's too cold over there. | ||
| What he's really saying is Leanne talked to some people, and Leanne was like, holy shit, this is really a big issue. | ||
| And he was like, I do not want you to say that on air. | ||
| She does end up talking to him. | ||
| I wish I'd pulled this clip. | ||
| She ends up talking to him at one point, and it just deteriorates into a plug. | ||
| Because she's like, you know, I'm glad I got my total cleanse out here. | ||
| No! | ||
| We gotta eat food and, you know, drink water out here. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I'm glad to have this cleanse. | ||
| Also, I'm back on Super Female. | ||
| I was single for a little while, so I didn't want to take it. | ||
| I wanted her hair to fall out. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| I don't know what... | ||
| Does that mean that when she takes it... | ||
| She's too horny. | ||
| She's too horny. | ||
| Too horny. | ||
| When she's single, she's worried she's going to fuck the world. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, now I kind of want to... | ||
| Now I want to take some super female vitality. | ||
| Even Alex was like, oh, it's getting a little hot. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| What is this report on Flint where we're discussing relative horniness? | ||
| Here we are in Flint, Michigan. | ||
| I have my InfoWars brand water purifier. | ||
| And I want to fuck! | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Thanks, Leanne. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Back to the studio, Alex. | ||
| So here's Alex's interrupting Leanne at this point and giving what his point really is. | ||
| Like an honorable gentleman who has chivalry in his heart. | ||
| And then at the end of this, I have some very important points. | ||
| Well, that's it. | ||
| I mean, let's say it. | ||
| You know, you had all these Germans, Poles, black Americans, you name it, that moved in there in the last hundred years. | ||
| The Industrial Revolution, Henry Ford. | ||
| It became a big boom town. | ||
| Then the mafia moved in. | ||
| Organized crime, the unions, and they took it over, and that's just how it runs. | ||
| And as far as I'm concerned, and I've talked to Michiganders, they're great people. | ||
| Detroit and Flint aren't part of the state. | ||
| They're gone. | ||
| You go everywhere else, it's nice. | ||
| People are doing great. | ||
| It's wonderful. | ||
| You go there, it's a bunch of just, you know, thug kingpins feeding off their people. | ||
| And that's the end of it. | ||
| And, of course, this is what you need to expect. | ||
| Like Mexico, it's collapsing. | ||
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Right. | |
| I hope you die, Alex. | ||
| I hope you die. | ||
| I hope all your hair falls out. | ||
| I hope your fucking fingernails bleed for the rest of your fucking life. | ||
| Are you shitting me? | ||
| That's what he said? | ||
| I love people with empathy, Dan. | ||
| There's some interesting facts that you can find about these two communities that he's deemed not a part of Michigan. | ||
| Boy, I'm going to start to think they're the least white places in Michigan, Dan. | ||
| So Michigan as a whole is 80.2% white. | ||
| Very white. | ||
| It's pretty white. | ||
| 14.2% black. | ||
| Let me ask you a question. | ||
| Where would that 14.2% be concentrated? | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Well, let me tell you about Detroit. | ||
| It is 12.3% white and 81.6% black. | ||
| I don't understand why he would be less interested in how they do. | ||
| I don't either. | ||
| Also, in Flint, the racial makeup of the city, according to a recent census, was 53.3% African American, 41.1% white. | ||
| So even that is substantially outside of the norm for Michigan. | ||
| If you go to towns like Ann Arbor, those sorts of places, they're far heavier white concentrations. | ||
| And if you want to go back to when that started happening, I'll be goddamned if it didn't have anything to do with the white flight era. | ||
| And everybody who lived in the city being afraid of black people, so they moved out to the goddamn suburbs and ruined our fucking lives. | ||
| And then also, if you want to look at it on an even closer analysis, you'll find that the average median per capita income... | ||
| In Detroit is a good $8,000 a year less than the entirety of Michigan. | ||
| Oh, well that's because the unions. | ||
| Because of thugs, crime bosses, and the unions. | ||
| That have all been busted up largely. | ||
| And there's 15.6% higher incidence of people living below the poverty line in Detroit than there is in Michigan in its entirety. | ||
| I am not entirely sure. | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| 26.4% of the population in Flint is under the poverty line, including 37.4% of those under the age of 18. Christ. | ||
| So the things that we're talking about, when Alex wants to say that Detroit and Flint suspiciously aren't part of Michigan, that's code. | ||
| That's not anything other than, boy, these places are anomalous in how black they are. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he even tried to pretend, like, when the Germans and the Poles and, you know... | ||
| And Henry Ford, a Nazi. | ||
| And the black people moved in. | ||
| A Nazi. | ||
| It was the Germans and the Poles and the black people. | ||
| But it was mainly the Germans and the Poles. | ||
| I mean, I'm not a racist. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| All the Germans and the Poles left. | ||
| And now I hate the place. | ||
| But it's got nothing to do with that. | ||
| Henry Ford was great. | ||
| He definitely wasn't a fucking Nazi. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He wasn't involved in the protocols. | ||
| Protocols. | ||
| So, that's disgraceful, and I find it very disgusting. | ||
| Considering what we now know, a year later, about the fertility problems that have come from the lead poisoning. | ||
| It's such an... | ||
| When that's one of Alex Jones' big narratives is, you know, he doesn't really care about black fertility that much, I don't think. | ||
| I think that's probably why he doesn't make a big deal out of that. | ||
| And the idea of scoring points on it, and he even does this. | ||
| Like, I don't have a clip of it, but I swear to you he does this. | ||
| He's talking about it, and he's like, I mean, we sell water filtration. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Utilizing people's pain and suffering in order to sell your products. | ||
| To sell snake oil products. | ||
| Well, I don't actually know. | ||
| I mean, I think of his products, I think the water filtration is probably the best of them. | ||
| Like, there is a place for water filtration in the world. | ||
| It's maybe not the biggest emergency for most people, but compared to the real red pill, I would take a water filter. | ||
| Well, that's true. | ||
| I've had a Brita in my day. | ||
| Yeah, but it didn't have Alex Jones' fucking face on it. | ||
| I wish it did. | ||
| I believe you do. | ||
| That way you could get angry at water every morning. | ||
| Goddamn water! | ||
| Goddamn you, water! | ||
| Throw it across the room. | ||
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I can't believe... | |
| Like, it's so obvious and it's so disheartening that we all know how big of an issue Flint is. | ||
| And we all know that's an issue that we could for real fix. | ||
| Like, of all the things that we could fix, that's one of them. | ||
| And it would cost money. | ||
| It would be hard. | ||
| But just think about how we could fucking fix it. | ||
| And it's not... | ||
| And think about what's lost by not. | ||
| And think about who fucking did it. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Like, that was a direct result of those fucking assholes being like, well, we need to keep Detroit from going bankrupt. | ||
| We need to divert our water supply to this different place. | ||
| We need to fuck over everybody. | ||
| And then we're gonna lie about it for four years. | ||
| And we could fucking fix it. | ||
| And we just won't. | ||
| Like, right now, Puerto Rico and Houston and all of these fucking places are still trying to recover, and we know that this is an issue, but it's just one of so many fucking issues. | ||
| It's so hard to care about everything all at the same time. | ||
| Well, I think one of these issues, too, or at least what this triggers in a lot of people who could help is a sense of ego or a sense of pride being wounded. | ||
| Like, I think that there's a piece of it where, you know, it's... | ||
| People would be like, let's not play the blame game. | ||
| It's like, let's not. | ||
| Let's not. | ||
| You don't need to do that. | ||
| But people did very seriously fuck up, and it needs to be fixed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's like a prosecutor... | ||
| Everyone's afraid that they would be held accountable, and so they never fix the problem. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's like a prosecutor who put away an innocent man. | ||
| And everybody knows they're innocent, but the prosecutor has to constantly be like, no, no, no, we got the right guy, we got the right guy, I definitely didn't sentence an innocent man to death. | ||
| Oh, I want to say this really quick, too, because this episode, we're recording this on Sunday. | ||
| But it'll come out on Monday, and I want to make a... | ||
| This is getting off the Flint thing really quick. | ||
| I want to make a prediction. | ||
| Getting back onto church days. | ||
| I want to get a prediction about an Alex Jones narrative. | ||
| The other day, I believe on Friday, it came out that one of the judges in the Ninth Circuit Court, Alex Kaczynski... | ||
| Serial sexual harasser. | ||
| And also just other kind of harasser. | ||
| Like, all of it. | ||
| Just a kind of piece of shit all around. | ||
| Abusive type of guy. | ||
| And, you know, it's an allegation. | ||
| The lady who wrote about it seems very believable. | ||
| I have no reason to disbelieve. | ||
| You know, he's not been tried in a court or anything like that. | ||
| But that's not really the issue. | ||
| I 100% believe her. | ||
| What I want to make a prediction about is Alex is going to use that as ammo against the Ninth Circuit the way he hates them so much because they've outlawed American flag shirts at schools and stuff like that. | ||
| You think so? | ||
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Yes. | |
| I'm going to argue that he's going to defend the guy. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm going to argue that he will. | ||
| Not a chance. | ||
| I bet he does. | ||
| He hates the Ninth Circuit. | ||
| I bet he does. | ||
| He hates the Ninth Circuit. | ||
| He's been yelling about this forever. | ||
| Yeah, but he loves sexual harassment. | ||
| That's true, but any chance he could have to attack the Ninth Circuit, he's going to take, and he's intellectually inconsistent to an unbelievable degree. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| I'm just laying my bet. | ||
| There's a 50% chance. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's all I'm saying. | ||
| I think you're wrong. | ||
| We're going on red or black here, and I'm going to pick black. | ||
| I hope you're... | ||
| No, I don't hope you're right, because either way, it's a fucked narrative. | ||
| But be that as it may. | ||
| Yeah, there's no winner in this bet. | ||
| If I'm right, I looked it up, he had nothing to do with that decision. | ||
| He wasn't on the panel of judges. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| Any of the decisions Alex Jones has talked about with the Ninth Circuit Court, he was not involved. | ||
| No, he's just a piece of shit. | ||
| Yeah, and it's completely irrelevant to any of Alex's narratives. | ||
| So preemptively, that argument doesn't work. | ||
| I think we're... | ||
| At the point now with public accusations of sexual harassment and that kind of shit, the people who are coming forward and the people who are accused, if you're accused, you're guilty until proven innocent at this point. | ||
| I'm not comfortable with that, but I don't disagree. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's almost impossible to prove a negative. | ||
| The instances of false accusation are so slim. | ||
| And then you multiply it by the number of people coming forward. | ||
| Like, if six people come forward independently, guess what? | ||
| You fucking did it. | ||
| I accidentally stumbled into a men's rights subreddit the other day. | ||
| Not a good idea. | ||
| And they were talking about some of these issues. | ||
| That's like stumbling into a car. | ||
| It's not going to end well. | ||
| I saw somebody posted something about how the Innocence Project, most of the people who have been released due to the Innocence Project were rape convictions. | ||
| And so they were making the argument that false rape accusations are real and a big deal. | ||
| Boy, I bet they had nothing to do with race! | ||
| That's the issue. | ||
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| Who would have guessed? | ||
| Who would have guessed, Dan, that it was black men raping white women? | ||
| That might have been the issue. | ||
| I went to the Innocence Project's website and went through... | ||
| Or perhaps, or better said, black men not raping white women. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But being so afraid of black people touching your white women. | ||
| Well, that is a bulk of the cases that I was able to find. | ||
| And that is another issue. | ||
| I mean, it's parceled in. | ||
| Slightly, but that's not about fake accusations. | ||
| That's about racism. | ||
| No, that's about women who were raped and racism getting the wrong people. | ||
| And it's really more about the police than anything else. | ||
| Oh boy, they're great. | ||
| So then the other thing was this person on Reddit who was making this argument was bundling in a bunch of rape and murders. | ||
| And it's like, you can't really make a false accusation if you've been murdered. | ||
| That's the police doing that. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Wait, his argument is that the woman who was murdered was not raped? | ||
| And that was a false accusation? | ||
| It's just because these cases of people who were exonerated for these crimes involved rape, he was making the argument that a bunch of false accusations exist. | ||
| And when you take out the ones that have to do with racially charged incidents and murders... | ||
| There's like zero. | ||
| It's very slim. | ||
| I'm not sure I found any that were legitimate. | ||
| But be that as it may, when I say legitimate, I mean fall into his argument slightly. | ||
| I don't mean legitimate. | ||
| Under just purely statistical analysis, with how rare it is to get a false rape accusation, if it's more than one woman... | ||
| There's a 97% chance that you were a fucking serial sexual assaulter. | ||
| Or the globalists. | ||
| Or the globalists. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Also possible. | ||
| I will leave that door open. | ||
| Anyway, let's go back to the episode here. | ||
| We get a guest at the end of this episode. | ||
| And there's a guest that we know well. | ||
| It's a guest we've spoke to on the phone for an hour. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Fruitlessly. | ||
| Dan Byrne? | ||
| No. | ||
| Mike Kaplan? | ||
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No. | |
| No. | ||
| It is Larry Nichols. | ||
| Fuck that guy. | ||
| Larry Nichols. | ||
| Larry Hangdog Nichols comes in to give a little bit of bullshit. | ||
| Larry the hard rice and the soft rice Nicaraguan freedom fighter Nichols. | ||
| Larry the big old fraudulent piece of garbage Nichols. | ||
| Larry Nichols the fucking Vince Foster fuckface that can go kill himself. | ||
| So Larry Nichols comes on. | ||
| Who doesn't even really have cancer according to... | ||
| Some online speculation. | ||
| We're not entirely sure. | ||
| No. | ||
| Can't guarantee it, but eh. | ||
| So Larry Nichols' big arguments that he's coming on to pitch are that Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden are waiting in the wings, and that they're about to take over for Hillary. | ||
| But Hillary has blackmail on everybody, and so she's not going to let him do that. | ||
| So that's what's going on from his inside sources. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I mean, if you change it to control over the Democratic National Committee's funding sources, you would be right. | ||
| But Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden weren't going to run. | ||
| Joe Biden was considering running. | ||
| But not all that seriously. | ||
| He actually was considering it very seriously. | ||
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Well... | |
| No joke at all. | ||
| Joe Biden was really, really close to getting into the race. | ||
| But not because of this. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| But he was really close to it. | ||
| Don't mistake the near miss we had with Joe Biden becoming president. | ||
| Facts versus narrative are important. | ||
| Because that fact can exist in reality and Larry's narrative, with Larry's narrative being wrong. | ||
| Yeah, no, I agree. | ||
| And so he's also on there to say that, like... | ||
| Unless... | ||
| Unless for the first time we believe Larry Nichols is telling the truth. | ||
| So in the last couple appearances he's had on the show, Larry Nichols has waffled back and forth from Trump is the only person who can save us to Hillary is the only one who can save us from Barack Obama turning us into a Muslim caliphate when he becomes king. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| So he has no center at all. | ||
| But on this appearance, he's on the Trump side. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| And he says something that I think is him showing too many cards. | ||
| Too many cards. | ||
| And being a little too overt. | ||
| Put your mic down. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is the showdown, Alex. | ||
| This is the election that our country's up for grabs right now. | ||
| And that's why we've got to get in. | ||
| We, the average American, and I'll say it, the average American white guy, you know, we're being excluded from the whole thing. | ||
| You know, we're the dinosaur. | ||
| We're the ones that are the endangered species. | ||
| Sure, it's the broken coalition strategy that you used to get them into the gubernatorial office. | ||
| They've now done where the minorities were walled up before, and they played politics. | ||
| Now it's the other way around. | ||
| And people are saying, good, get the old white guy. | ||
| It's not going to screw the white guy over. | ||
| It's a bunch of rich white guys offshore running the whole scam. | ||
| They just don't want middle class people, period, that happen to be a lot of them white, to have a say anymore. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I mean, they want us out of the picture, Alex. | ||
| Remember what I told you? | ||
| They want the evil Western culture that's here, you know, of free market and profit gone. | ||
| They want a monopoly now, and they're getting ready to do it. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| In one fell swoop, Larry has admitted we just need white men to take over. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Which they already have. | ||
| Problem solved. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Problem solved. | ||
| And done, Larry. | ||
| Larry, you nailed it. | ||
| Don't you see how much better everything is when white men run things? | ||
| Well, it was like Mary Tyler Moore was on, you know? | ||
| Back in those days. | ||
| Men and women worked together. | ||
| The other, in one fell swoop. | ||
| Alex has indicated that these ideas about westernism and that stuff. | ||
| Whiterism. | ||
| It's just white. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just white dudes. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's fucked up, man. | ||
| They shouldn't have said that. | ||
| They shouldn't have said that on air. | ||
| Again, this is the era of make the subtext text, man. | ||
| Nobody gives a shit. | ||
| It wasn't yet. | ||
| They're way ahead of the game. | ||
| Well, that's what InfoWars is. | ||
| Next year's news today, man. | ||
| Get tomorrow's racism today. | ||
| Next year's racism today, yeah. | ||
| It's fucking unreal. | ||
| When I heard that, I was like, woof. | ||
| We gotta talk to Larry about that. | ||
| I mean, we don't. | ||
| No, we don't. | ||
| It's really implied, but I've never... | ||
| Well, I mean, let's face it. | ||
| It was white women who really screwed us at the end of the day. | ||
| And white dudes. | ||
| Well, they've always been screwing us. | ||
| We had to rely on white women to really get us through this situation. | ||
| And white women failed us. | ||
| The white race failed us. | ||
| As a me, I'm not ready to come down on them, necessarily. | ||
| But be that as it may, in the times that I've listened to this show and all this history, I've heard Larry Nichols be really Islamophobic and really fucked up on that tip, but I've never heard him say something that overt. | ||
| That overtly white nationalist? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've never heard that, and that took me... | ||
| I wasn't surprised, necessarily. | ||
| I was going to say, what did you think he thought? | ||
| Well, no, of course, it was sort of implied that that was in his belief set. | ||
| But at the same time, it did surprise me a little. | ||
| Like, not... | ||
| That he would give up the game? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That he wouldn't even couch it in pretend non-racism. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That he would just whole hog be like, white dudes, ride up! | ||
| Well, when he says, like... | ||
| Average Americans. | ||
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White dude. | |
| Let me just say, what I mean is white males. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, that is... | ||
| I constantly struggle with this. | ||
| Like, I feel like... | ||
| Is it the Joker who's like, I want a higher class of criminal in this town? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, from The Dark Knight. | ||
| Yeah, that sort of mentality. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| I get disappointed in these guys when they're... | ||
| I feel the same way! | ||
| We just did an episode a week ago where I was like... | ||
| I'm disappointed in Alex. | ||
| Make me work for it. | ||
| Yeah, come on, guys. | ||
| You're just putting your white nationalism out on display. | ||
| And then being like, when someone calls you a racist, being like, where's the proof? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's right here. | ||
| It's everywhere. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You guys make it so... | ||
| If we wanted it to be this obvious, we would just cover Stormfront. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Although half of the time we fucking are. | ||
| Which, by the way... | ||
| Oh, don't tell me anything. | ||
| It's a big Stormfront news. | ||
| I don't want to know... | ||
| I don't know if I should get into this now. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| What? | ||
| I should? | ||
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Eh. | |
| Okay. | ||
| So, I've been doing a bit of research on this guy named Ted Malick, who's on Alex Jones' show pretty regularly. | ||
| Ted Malick? | ||
| Ted Malick. | ||
| M-A-L-L-O-C-H. | ||
| Oh, Ted Malick. | ||
| Malick. | ||
| The god of... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex Jones presents him as an insider. | ||
| He is a part of the Aspen Institute and Davos group, but he's turned on them. | ||
| Right? | ||
| He's become a patriot. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He was a big proponent of Brexit and then was allegedly Trump's pick to be the ambassador to the EU. | ||
| Great. | ||
| But it didn't work out. | ||
| I wonder why. | ||
| Well, a bunch of videos came out of him being like, I want to destroy the EU. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| A bunch of people at the EU were like, don't do that. | ||
| As opposed to Trump's pick for the FCC, whose main goal was, I want to destroy the FCC. | ||
| Or his pick for the fucking CF, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, who's literally said, I want to destroy the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| How is that going? | ||
| Have we solved that issue yet? | ||
| Certainly haven't. | ||
| No. | ||
| So, if you look into it, this guy, Ted Malick, I'm going to write an article about this and put it out on the website soon, so a lot of this information will be contained therein. | ||
| He wrote an autobiography called Aspen, Davos, and Yale. | ||
| How old is he? | ||
| He is probably in his... | ||
| maybe 60? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He looks good. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'd put him at late 50s, early 60s, maybe. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But... | ||
| People have done some analyses of his book and checked a bunch of claims in his book. | ||
| And they are not real. | ||
| All lies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He claims that he was, quote, knighted in the sovereign order of St. John by the Queen Elizabeth II herself. | ||
| And to my closest family and friends, I am therefore known as Sir Ted. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| All right? | ||
| Now, disregard anything that's going to result from this. | ||
| I love a man who will write an autobiography. | ||
| Where he's a false sir. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| I'm just on board with anybody who has the balls to just be like, yeah, the Queen knighted me. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The Financial Times looked into it, and it turns out he received the Medal of St. John in 2005. | ||
| But it was as a, quote, serving brother, a grade roughly equivalent to an MBE, a British honor several ranks lower than knighthood. | ||
| It does not carry a title, and members do not attend an investiture with the Queen. | ||
| So the Queen wasn't even involved. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| So when they reached out to Moloch for a comment, he said, of course it's not a knighthood. | ||
| I never suggested it was. | ||
| You just said it! | ||
| In the book, he says, I was knighted. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So also he claims that he was... | ||
| Maybe it was metaphorical. | ||
| He also claims that he was made a laird by... | ||
| Lord Leon of Scotland and given a personal coat of arms with a fancy Latin inscription. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| However... | ||
| And the Latin inscription means, I'm a fucking liar! | ||
| Right, it's like that episode of Lost, that tattoo, with Bialing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
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Alright. | |
| So, from the Financial Times. | ||
| However, a clerk and keeper of records at the court of Lord Leon said, quote... | ||
| The Lord Leon does not, nor could he, create a person a laird. | ||
| It would certainly be incorrect for Mr. Malick to say he was made a laird by the Lord Lion King of Arms. | ||
| Mr. Malick told the Financial Times that he had a scroll. | ||
| He had a scroll? | ||
| He had patents of nobility. | ||
| He's got it. | ||
| He had a scroll. | ||
| God, I love the delusional guys who go back far enough for it to be hilarious. | ||
| Just like the idea... | ||
| Yeah, I got a mural made for me by Queen Elizabeth I. Like, what are you fucking doing, you idiot? | ||
| I promise that this is going to get back to Stormfront as we jumped off. | ||
| I don't want it to. | ||
| I want to live in Skrull World. | ||
| I don't want nothing to do with Stormfront. | ||
| So there's a bunch of others. | ||
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Also, now I want to open a store called Skrull World. | |
| He made a bunch of other assertions. | ||
| Both his curricula verite, his CV, and in his book, he claimed that he was a professor at Oxford. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Tell me! | ||
| Tell me the truth, Dan! | ||
| The University of Oxford rejected Mr. Malik's assertion to have been a senior fellow at the Wolfson College. | ||
| Oh, did they? | ||
| Publicity statements about and by Professor Ted Malek. | ||
| He is described as having been a senior fellow at Wolfson College. | ||
| This is inaccurate. | ||
| It said in a statement. | ||
| Mr. Malek was a visiting academic for two years, but he very rarely visited the college and did not see through any of his plans for research activities with the college. | ||
| Added the university, which is usually reluctant to criticize former staff. | ||
| See, this is my biggest issue. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| This is my biggest issue. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| Hold on. | ||
| Okay, go for it. | ||
| So, in his CV, he also states that he was a fellow and director of an international summer school at Pembroke College at Oxford. | ||
| Oh, that one I buy. | ||
| Pembroke College told the Financial Times that this was incorrect. | ||
| God, this is the thing that drives me insane, right? | ||
| Here's what I want from liberals. | ||
| Here's what I want from all the people who say when they go low. | ||
| We go high. | ||
| If you are given a quote like that, if somebody comes to you, Oxford fuckfaces, and says, yeah, I was a senior fellow there, you should have the right and the prerogative to be like, that dude's a fucking liar. | ||
| What bullshit. | ||
| Well, it's very clear that that's the case. | ||
| Don't say that's incorrect. | ||
| Be very direct and say, this fucker is lying. | ||
| In his book. | ||
| That's why we should be spokesmen for so many people, Dan. | ||
| You would be like, here is why this is bullshit. | ||
| Here's why this is bullshit. | ||
| And then I would be fucking hyped, man. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And I'd be like, this motherfucker is lying! | ||
| So in his book, Mr. Malek writes that he completed his entire doctoral program in an unprecedented less than three years, between 1976 and 1979. | ||
| That sounds true. | ||
| However, the University of Toronto says his PhD was not awarded until 1980. | ||
| After being questioned by the Financial Times, Mr. Malek said that he had completed his coursework and oral exams within three years, but his thesis took longer. | ||
| Something to do with reality. | ||
| Mr. Malik recently claimed that he, quote, he had helped bring down the Soviet Union. | ||
| That sounds true. | ||
| After a period in the State Department, his most senior diplomatic role was as a deputy to the executive... | ||
| Executive Secretary in the UN Economic Commission for Europe between 1989 and 1991. | ||
| Who else was better placed to take down the Soviet Union then? | ||
| He said his role was ambassador level, but UN and US officials said the Post is not regarded as an equivalent. | ||
| He's just a liar. | ||
| Come on, guys! | ||
| Just come out and be like, this dude is fucking lying! | ||
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He's just a complete liar. | |
| He's got delusions of grandeur. | ||
| He also took out a number of loans over the years for millions of dollars from banks and defaulted on them. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But also... | ||
| Claimed much higher assets when he took the loans so the bank would give them to him. | ||
| He said that he was worth like $30 million when he took out these loans like maybe 10 years ago or so. | ||
| I'm sorry, I don't quite have the dates. | ||
| Yes, everybody's very frustrated with you. | ||
| When it came time to pay back the loans, he was like, ah shit, I've only got $152,000. | ||
| So he tried to default on the loans. | ||
| The bank sued him and the court was like... | ||
| You still owe him this money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You lied about how much money you had. | ||
| You defrauded him. | ||
| See, the problem with that is I kind of want to be on his side. | ||
| Anytime somebody lies to a bank and then is just like... | ||
| Yeah, I got away with it. | ||
| Or somebody who just lies to a bank so confidently they get millions of dollars. | ||
| I kind of want that. | ||
| I'm on their side. | ||
| Like, I'm rooting for fuck the banks. | ||
| I have one more thing to read, and then we'll get into where we get towards the dicey connection. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, Ted Malek also claims that he's a descendant of Theodore Roosevelt. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Go wilder. | ||
| He's a descendant of Cleopatra. | ||
| Why stop? | ||
| Why stop at Teddy Roosevelt? | ||
| Ted Malick's credibility among right-wing Americans has been helped by an unusual claim. | ||
| I'm just reading from the Financial Times here. | ||
| That he is a descendant of President Theodore Roosevelt. | ||
| Quote, My parents christened me Theodore Roosevelt after my paternal wasp ancestor, who remains one of the finest exemplars of the breed. | ||
| Mr. Malick wrote in his autobiography, Davos, Aspen, and Yale. | ||
| The connection has been repeated by right-wing publications such as Breitbart, which referred to him as the great-grandson of... | ||
| That sounds true. | ||
| Sounds true. | ||
| Sounds true. | ||
| An obituary of Mr. Malick Sr. does not mention any link to President Roosevelt. | ||
| Oh, it doesn't? | ||
| Who died two years before he was born. | ||
| Who would have guessed? | ||
| Mr. Malick Sr.'s parents were Henry Wilson Malick, a plumber from Scotland, and Frieda Schneider, a housewife born in Germany. | ||
| The Financial Times could find no link between them and President Roosevelt, who was aged about 35 when they were born. | ||
| President Roosevelt's great-great-grandson, Kermit Roosevelt, said he had never heard of Ted Malick. | ||
| Mr. Malick told the Financial Times, "I was always told that my grandmother was a descendant of a Roosevelt relative. | ||
| German birth records are available only to direct descendants." Mr. Malick initially offered to send the Financial Times a birth certificate, but then declined to do so, saying he was under no obligation to share Born in Kenya! | ||
| I feel like he was out to damage his reputation. | ||
| However, one of Mr. Malick's uncles was named Woodrow Wilson Malick. | ||
| And he was Woodrow Wilson's great-grandson, right? | ||
| Mr. Malik declined to comment on whether the family was related to Woodrow Wilson. | ||
| Of course, of course. | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I don't want to be related to Woodrow. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Woodrow, look. | ||
| If you're going with a ranking system, I'm going to go with Teddy Roosevelt. | ||
| TR. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not going to go with the president who made black people hide whenever he was walking through the fucking White House. | ||
| Yeah, so I was looking through this and I'm like, this is fucking amazing. | ||
| He is such a liar. | ||
| And a lot of these lies are things that he claimed in his book. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was like, that seems really dangerous for a publisher, like, to put out these false statements. | ||
| Because if he's lying about all this stuff, who knows what other stuff he's lying about? | ||
| All of his claims are really up for grabs, like, to the point where I looked into it, I can't find any evidence that he was involved, strictly speaking, with the Aspen Institute. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was in a video in 1991. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Dude, everybody lies on their resume. | ||
| Right, so I take everything about him to be up for grabs. | ||
| Hey, you know what maybe we should start doing then? | ||
| Is let's go back through a lot of autobiographies that we rely on as historical documents and think, maybe this dude's a fucking bullshitter who knew how to write when most people didn't. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I looked into it, and it turns out that Davos, Aspen, and Yale was put out. | ||
| Day. | ||
| What? | ||
| Day. | ||
| Davos, Aspen, and Yale. | ||
| Day. | ||
| You know who put it out? | ||
| Who? | ||
| WorldNetDaily. | ||
| They're the publishers. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| WorldNetDaily is the publisher of his autobiography. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Of course. | ||
| He couldn't get that put out on any other actual publisher. | ||
| He might as well have self-published it. | ||
| If you don't know WorldNetDaily, it's another crazy conspiracy site like Infowars that used to employ Jerome Corsi. | ||
| He might as well have been writing. | ||
| He would be more successful writing dinosaur slash fic. | ||
| So this is a fun derivation, and I'm glad that we were able to go down it. | ||
| I looked into it, and I checked all the books that have been published by WorldNetDaily, and I'm going to read you some of the greatest hits. | ||
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All right. | |
| How to Choose a Husband and Make Peace with Marriage. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| Here's the byline of it. | ||
| It's been 40 years since the sexual revolution, and the women of America have everything they want. | ||
| Everything, that is. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Except a husband. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Women may be screwed in the art of sex, but have they failed in the art of love? | ||
| Stop right there. | ||
| Here's the next one. | ||
| Burn the book. | ||
| Next book. | ||
| If I Had a Son, Race, Guns, and the Railroading of George Zimmerman. | ||
| Don't want any part of that. | ||
| Blood Moons, Decoding the Imminent Heavenly Signs. | ||
| Already gets it. | ||
| Stop right there. | ||
| Stop at Blood Moons. | ||
| The Antidote. | ||
| Healing America from the poison of hate, blame, and victimhood. | ||
| Oh yeah, you suck it out with your mouth. | ||
| Here is the byline of this. | ||
| In this powerful book, Jesse Lee Peterson traces the collapse of the black community in America to an unexpected source. | ||
| The anger against one's mother and father that fatherlessness engenders. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| Jesse, Jesse. | ||
| Maybe don't complicate it so much. | ||
| Maybe just go back through American history and think. | ||
| I wonder why black people are fucked over. | ||
| Here's another book. | ||
| Be Thou Prepared, Equipping the Church for Persecution in the Times of Trouble. | ||
| Great title. | ||
| The Restitution of All Things, Israel, Christians, and the End of the Age. | ||
| That's the motto of the Jesus Boy Scouts, right? | ||
| Be Thou Prepared? | ||
| Stealth Invasion, Muslim Conquest Through Immigration and Resettlement Jihad. | ||
| That's not a bad video game title. | ||
| The Devil in D.C. Winning Back the Country from the Beast in Washington. | ||
| Who's that? | ||
| Frank? | ||
| Here's my second favorite of these. | ||
| Everybody knows Frank and Washington the Beast. | ||
| Here's my second favorite. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How Obama Can Be Defeated in 2012. | ||
| A battle plan based on political statistical realities. | ||
| Written by Jerome Corsi. | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| That fucking pile of shit. | ||
| So now here's my favorite of all the books that came out on the World Net Daily imprint. | ||
| Dinosaur fucking! | ||
| Is it good? | ||
| Might as well be. | ||
| Outlasting the Gay Revolution. | ||
| Wait, what does that even fucking mean? | ||
| That's the title. | ||
| Outlasting the Gay Revolution? | ||
| That's the title. | ||
| Here comes the subtitle. | ||
| All right, all right, all right. | ||
| Where homosexual activism is really going and how to turn the tide. | ||
| It's going up your butt. | ||
| I don't know what you, what do you want from that? | ||
| So this was written by a guy named Michael Brown. | ||
| Dr. Michael Brown. | ||
| And he's most notable because... | ||
| For being a closeted homosexual? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And a couple months ago, he got in some hot water. | ||
| The internet turned on him a little bit. | ||
| For hiring a rent boy? | ||
| No, I'll just read from his rebuttal about this. | ||
| Just the rebuttal. | ||
| We don't even need to know the allegations. | ||
| You'll figure it out. | ||
| You'll figure it out. | ||
| This is from a blog post that he wrote called When Social Media Explodes Over an Editing Oversight. | ||
| I love the editing oversight being the issue here. | ||
| So when I wrote my article asking whether it was time for another Jesus movement among Jewish millennials, I fully expected some pushback, since the subject of Jews believing in Jesus is hardly without controversy and emotion. | ||
| Jews for Jesus. | ||
| I'm fully aware of how hot this topic is. | ||
| To my surprise and embarrassment, it turns out that a lot of the controversy had nothing to do with the substance of the article, but rather focused on a website I hyperlinked to in the article. | ||
| To explain briefly, my article was responding to a recent poll that claimed that almost 50% of Jewish millennials believe Jesus was either God incarnate or a rabbi or spiritually incarnate. | ||
| Doesn't sound true. | ||
| That prompted me to ask if it might be time to see a great spiritual revival among these Jewish millennials. | ||
| So that poll that he's talking about, that article? | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| 100% true. | ||
| It was from Stormfront. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| Sounds accurate. | ||
| Sounds good. | ||
| And so everybody was like, hey man. | ||
| Hey. | ||
| Hey guy. | ||
| You get... | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Just maybe. | ||
| Don't take anything about Jews from Stormfront ever. | ||
| It made me laugh so hard. | ||
| When I'm like, first of all, this outlasting the gay revolution, that's a book. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| And then to find out... | ||
| It's by reading that book until everybody dies. | ||
| I had to Google the author because I'm like, what the fuck is this guy up to? | ||
| And it's like, oh, he linked to Stormfront. | ||
| And his argument is like, I didn't know they were neo-Nazis. | ||
| How do you not know they're neo-Nazis? | ||
| Well, that's in the realm of believable, but at the same time, how sloppy of a job are you doing if you link to something that's supposedly in defense of your point and you don't know what the character of the website is? | ||
| You know? | ||
| Eh, you know. | ||
| Do a little editorial work is all I'm saying. | ||
| We do. | ||
| It's so frustrating to me. | ||
| It's so frustrating to me because I have started and finished like, 40 or 50,000 words and never wound up actually finishing a book. | ||
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Also, never accidentally linked to Nazis. | |
| No, I've never accidentally linked to Nazis, but this guy fucking finished a book. | ||
| So frustrating to me. | ||
| I mean, he shit out the book. | ||
| Yeah, no, I mean, that's not the point. | ||
| I can't shit out a book. | ||
| You could if you just forced yourself to finish. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The product wouldn't be what you want it to be. | ||
| Well, then you burn it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| So anyway, let's get back on track. | ||
| Ted Mollick is a complete fucking fraud, and that's the bottom line of that. | ||
| Also, look for my follow-up book, Unlasting the Homosexual Revolution. | ||
| I also would like to put this out there. | ||
| And then my further follow-up, Everlasting the Homosexual Revolution, which is just about Everlast songs. | ||
| You know what it's like to get butt-fucked. | ||
| So, the other thing is, Ted Mollick probably wasn't involved with high-end globalists or anything like that. | ||
| He's a con man. | ||
| He's absolutely a con man. | ||
| Or he's just a mentally ill person who has delusions of grandeur. | ||
| There's a great clip that you can find of him. | ||
| At, like, a symposium right after the election in London. | ||
| I believe it's in London. | ||
| It's somewhere in England. | ||
| And they're having a table discussion about how, like, now we have to deal with the fact that a president would lie on Twitter. | ||
| And, ha! | ||
| Ted Malek is like... | ||
| Well, we've had a president who lies every day on Twitter for eight years, trying to be a dishy, Gore Vidal type. | ||
| Oh, man, I got you there. | ||
| I got you all. | ||
| And so then they're like, wait, hold on, what are you talking about? | ||
| Obama lied every day? | ||
| What's an example of that? | ||
| He's like, well, he came over here and said that we shouldn't get involved with Brexit. | ||
| And the guy's like, hold on, that's not a lie. | ||
| That might be unwise if that's your opinion, but that's a statement of an opinion. | ||
| And Ted Malick's like, I think it's a lie. | ||
| And then the other panelist is like, let's move on. | ||
| Don't engage. | ||
| Just don't engage. | ||
| Don't fucking do this. | ||
| We don't have time. | ||
| He's defending the idea that not supporting Brexit is somehow a lie. | ||
| Well, that's true. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| This guy is a fucking asshole. | ||
| Anyway, that's the sort of caliber of Alex Jones' guests. | ||
| That was a weird derivation for us to go off on. | ||
| And let's get back into it with the next day. | ||
| January 22nd, now. | ||
| Alex starts January 22nd by being like, now, for a long time, I've been critical about Planet X. But it's real. | ||
| Do you mean the 10th planet? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I mean, I think it is real. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| I think it is real. | ||
| Well, there is a 10th planet, certainly. | ||
| And we know that because of irregularities in the orbits of other planets. | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
| That's a question. | ||
| There's probably an 11th, 12th planet. | ||
| There isn't even a 9th planet, so how did we get to 10? | ||
| Are we dealing with Pluto like it's the 13th floor on a hotel? | ||
| Interestingly, Alex, because now scientists have come out and started to discuss the idea that there is another planet out there that we just can't quite get a grasp on because it's too far away, the orbit is not such that we can study it, but we know it's there because of the effects of other planets. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Narrative is... | ||
| Like how you can't really see a black hole, but the gravitic energy of a black hole is obvious. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And so his argument is that they downgraded Pluto from being a planet, so this could be the ninth planet. | ||
| So conspiracy theorists talking about Planet X, the tenth planet, wouldn't be right. | ||
| And it's like, wow. | ||
| That is a long way to go. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That is a long way to go. | ||
| That is a waste of time. | ||
| That is, wow. | ||
| Scientists need to work on something else. | ||
| But it is an interesting example of Alex sort of giving a, like, mea culpa. | ||
| Being like, I've been critical of Planet X stuff, but here we go. | ||
| It looks like it's there. | ||
| And like, Alex, the Planet X stuff is like ancient alien stuff. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's about, like, Enlil and Enki and the Anunnaki. | ||
| And Enkidu, yeah. | ||
| You know, so it's like, don't give them a tip of the cap just because scientists have found the effects of a wobble. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, it's nonsense. | ||
| But he gets into a bunch of other crazy shit, like we will hear in this first clip. | ||
| You know what my favorite planet is? | ||
| You didn't learn over the last 11 months. | ||
| No. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Planet Nine from Outer Space. | ||
| All right, keep going. | ||
| Look at those Plan Nine from Outer Space. | ||
| What? | ||
| God damn it, Dan. | ||
| Anyway, this clip, Alex Jones... | ||
| I interrupted you for a reason. | ||
| This next clip, Alex Jones seems to think that going to school will make you gay. | ||
| Not at some, you know, trendy art school where a third of the kids end up in prison or, you know, commit suicide because they confuse them so much. | ||
| But officially in every school in the country that's government accredited, they're going to get in there and jack with their brains. | ||
| Same thing in Europe, same thing here. | ||
| We're about two years behind Canada. | ||
| Kids aren't going to be talking about super planets. | ||
| They're not going to be talking about fission fusion, not going to be talking about space travel, not going to be talking about tribal memories, not going to be talking about the mysteries of the universe. | ||
| They're going to have weirdo cult leaders hanging over them. | ||
| Telling them he and she is bad and you don't have to be a boy or girl or you can be gay or you can be this. | ||
| What a group of cult creeps that we let come in and jack us over and turn us into idiots. | ||
| Stay with us. | ||
| I'm Alex Jones. | ||
| Good sign-off. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| A lot of that goes back to his misunderstanding of the Tavistock Institute versus the Tavistock Clinic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like that sort of stuff about they're going to be coming into the schools and manipulating your children into thinking that they're gay or trans. | ||
| I think it has more to do with general hatred of higher learning. | ||
| Right. | ||
| One. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| Very. | ||
| And also a misunderstanding of how tribal memories relate to space. | ||
| Or formal education. | ||
| Not a big fan of formal education. | ||
| But can you conceive of a world wherein tribal memories is a school class that you take? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I could do. | ||
| I think we live in that world and Native Americans wouldn't be invited. | ||
| I grew up in Hawaii for a couple years. | ||
| And one of the classes we did have was elders would come and teach us dances and teach us about the old ways. | ||
| Yeah, that's not the ability to pass down memories through race genetics. | ||
| I actually kind of think they were trying to find shamans. | ||
| I think that's what the class was really about. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I think that these old ladies and muumus would come to the class and they were secretly trying to find the next seer. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| I'd be in on that. | ||
| It was probably just dancing. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is such a fascinating thing how Republicans hate science and yet will believe any science that agrees with them. | ||
| Like, any science. | ||
| I'm hard-pressed to figure out what science really agrees with them. | ||
| Oh, well, I mean, more than anybody. | ||
| Like, okay, just go with the climate change bullshit. | ||
| I shall. | ||
| 97% of scientists agree. | ||
| And let's just call that 100% of scientists who are real. | ||
| They all agree climate change is real, and we can point to its effects, and we can point to how it's happening, and we can point to solutions. | ||
| But if you have one Republican who points to some dumbass study, they're like, see? | ||
| Dumbass study proves it. | ||
| Everybody else is lying to you. | ||
| They have no critical thought beyond that guy agrees with what I already think. | ||
| Well, let me take this to another sort of direction. | ||
| There are studies that exist that try and demonstrate that the laws of thermal dynamics... | ||
| Like the idea that energy is not just changed, it's created or destroyed. | ||
| And those studies inevitably... | ||
| Turn out that like, oh, you guys just didn't think about this thing. | ||
| You forgot that variable in that study. | ||
| Which is the great thing about science is that peer review is available and they're like, oh no, here's your mistake. | ||
| And nobody's like, no, you're fucking wrong! | ||
| This is a lie! | ||
| The entire... | ||
| No, they're like, oh yeah, now I get it. | ||
| And that pretty much accounts for the 3% of the folks that are not on the side of climate change. | ||
| But by all means, bolster those voices. | ||
| Or a large amount of money accounts for the 3%. | ||
| Dem Cokes. | ||
| Yeah, Dem Cokes. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| Was it BuzzFeed, I believe, over the weekend? | ||
| Found James O 'Keefe's donor list, I believe. | ||
| I bet it all comes from Noam Chomsky. | ||
| Well, yeah, actually, that was a weird twist. | ||
| That's a weird twist, right? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| No, all of it comes from Noam Chomsky? | ||
| He likes truth! | ||
| Noam Chomsky hates baby parts. | ||
| That was actually the Center for Medical Progress. | ||
| Ah, there we go. | ||
| With Project Veritas, two of the highest donors, like hundreds of thousands of dollars, were Koch Brothers pass-through accounts. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| It wasn't the Koch Brothers giving them money directly, but it was funds that they are in charge of the pass-through. | ||
| So people give to them, and then they direct it. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| All of the donor lists are winding up, turning out to be dark money. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| $25,000 from Gladius Maximus, which is just the Mercers. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| $50,000 from, I guess, his dad or his brother. | ||
| I don't know, some other O 'Keefe. | ||
| Kill him. | ||
| Not Georgia. | ||
| Anyway, Alex Jones has an interesting position. | ||
| No, Georgia donated a picture of a vagina. | ||
| She's always on my mind. | ||
| Anyway, the idea that a third of people who go to art schools are in prison or commit suicide... | ||
| Sounds true. | ||
| It's inaccurate, but also reductive in many ways. | ||
| My girlfriend went to art school, and she's told me many times that a third of them went to school and killed themselves or were in prison and that none of them know anything about space or tribal memories. | ||
| Art school. | ||
| All they know about is not to be he or she. | ||
| Art school, in that case, would be more devastating than the Battle of the Bulge. | ||
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Surviving art school would be one of the most... | |
| Nobody... | ||
| Look. | ||
| You're in the shit. | ||
| Two of the biggest American casualties. | ||
| One, the Civil War. | ||
| Many Americans died in the Civil War. | ||
| Two, art schools. | ||
| Art schools. | ||
| The finger paint offensive. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Such bullshit. | ||
| And there are a lot of people who end up being artists who end up killing themselves, but I would argue that this is a causation fallacy. | ||
| Would you argue that? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But Alex has some ideas about people who criticize his ideas, as we do, very regularly. | ||
| I'm assuming they're positive. | ||
| He seems to think that most of them are feds. | ||
| But then he goes on to talk about the past and who used to criticize him in the past. | ||
| And this clip is dumb. | ||
| I mean, folks, I have to deal with feds sometimes where it's a known fed, and I'm at an event, and they show up with two crazy people in camo going, you put a chip in my brain, I'm gonna get you, drooling, and the feds behind them laughing at me going, we're gonna get you, Jones. | ||
| We're gonna get you, Jones! | ||
| This clip isn't done. | ||
| It's like a Dukes of Hazzard sheriff. | ||
| My alternative explanation for what Alex is describing is... | ||
| Two crazy fans of his independently running into each other at an Alex Jones event. | ||
| Possible. | ||
| One of them being like, you put a chip in my brain, and the other one laughing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's probably more what's going on. | ||
| Or, neither of them actually exist. | ||
| I imagine that the feds don't have the resources. | ||
| To what? | ||
| Bully Alex Jones pointlessly? | ||
| I feel like that's really all they're doing. | ||
| That might be. | ||
| I mean, you want to live in a science fiction movie, folks? | ||
| I live in it, okay? | ||
| I believe that. | ||
| I mean, in a way. | ||
| Long pause. | ||
| This is a long pause. | ||
| You talk about evil. | ||
| These people are it. | ||
| Still going. | ||
| So they don't even really use the CIA or the FBI. | ||
| They use these foundations. | ||
| And there's the Ford Foundation. | ||
| There's a bunch of them. | ||
| Rockefeller. | ||
| Rockefeller. | ||
| And I've had... | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let's just say people in law enforcement that are able to do legal and lawful checks on things look into these groups and they go, you're absolutely right. | ||
| Yeah, this guy works for this major foundation. | ||
| We checked it. | ||
| How'd you know that? | ||
| And I said, well, I know it's not even the police, not even the military. | ||
| How'd you know that? | ||
| I mean, when Clinton was in, I had to deal with the military messing with me, special forces. | ||
| You did not. | ||
| At a certain point. | ||
| Real quick. | ||
| Real quick. | ||
| Were you knighted by Queen Elizabeth II? | ||
| Real quick. | ||
| When the Clintons were in office, Alex Jones was a zero. | ||
| He was not at all in the mainstream consciousness. | ||
| He came into being, because of loose change, and because of his broadcast on 9-11, when he said, I told this. | ||
| And his daddy's money. | ||
| Well, that's why he had a show on the radio. | ||
| But he was a completely ignorable variable. | ||
| There's no way that I would believe that the Clintons sent military after him. | ||
| That's absurd. | ||
| And even if they did... | ||
| Why would you send the special forces? | ||
| You could send National Guard reserves, man. | ||
| It's not hard to... | ||
| Send a Coast Guard agent. | ||
| He's close to the bay in Texas. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| We're not doing this. | ||
| We're not harassing this guy. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| We're not surveilling him. | ||
| We're not going to beat him up. | ||
| And we're not going to follow him around. | ||
| And we're not going to threaten him. | ||
| And we're not going to call him at home. | ||
| And we're not going to do it anymore. | ||
| I haven't been messed with by the military since about 2000. | ||
| So who they have messing with me is these groups. | ||
| And they're doing it all over the place, and people just need to know about it. | ||
| Do they? | ||
| And it's not fun. | ||
| I bet it is. | ||
| But it's what I've got to deal with. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| I bet it's not. | ||
| You're making this up. | ||
| I haven't been messed with by the military since around 2000. | ||
| I also hadn't been messed with before that. | ||
| But since then, I have also not been messed with. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's still a true statement. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
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This is such nonsense. | |
| What would... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| How would... | ||
| If you were the military, how would you mess with Alex Jones? | ||
| I just keep thinking of those messing with Sasquatch commercials. | ||
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Exactly! | |
| Little pranks. | ||
| Like Carl Anthony Towns is over there, just kind of like, hey! | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| Alex misrepresents a lot of the times when he's being victimized by people. | ||
| Do you mean all the time? | ||
| Yes, all the time. | ||
| I just don't buy it. | ||
| I don't believe any of this. | ||
| The foundations aren't fucking with him. | ||
| The military wasn't during the Clinton time. | ||
| It's all bullshit. | ||
| Actually, Isaac Asimov's books were all about Alex Jones. | ||
| Foundation, Second Foundation, Forward the Foundation, all of that. | ||
| All about Alex Jones. | ||
| Paranoia than Alex Jones has. | ||
| But it's similar in many ways. | ||
| The cask of a... | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| I won't even bother with Edgar Allan Poe references. | ||
| So Jordan, in this next clip... | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Alex Jones often talks about ways you can support the broadcast. | ||
| A lot of these ad pivots, we talk about... | ||
| Downloading the app ways. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We can buy pills. | ||
| That supports a lot of industries. | ||
| Or you can buy a billboard. | ||
| I would love to buy a billboard. | ||
| Three billboards outside of Lubbock, Missouri, or whatever it is. | ||
| There's so many ways you can support the Infowar. | ||
| But today, on this episode... | ||
| Is there a new way? | ||
| January 22nd, Alex has the cheapest and most annoying way you could possibly support the Infowar. | ||
| And then it doesn't bear fruit because all you do is keep planning and keep scheming and keep thinking about how you're going to write a book or how you're going to do a newsletter or how you're going to do a local radio show or how you're going to run for office or how you're going to start speaking out. | ||
| You want to do something, start speaking out at the grocery store line. | ||
| No. | ||
| Just say, man, I sure wish my kids could have some of this gum. | ||
| They're asking it right now. | ||
| They don't do that anymore because they know they'll get a speech. | ||
| Oh, we're in the grocery store line, we're in the Target line, we're in the gas station line, and there's seven people in line in front of us. | ||
| My kids start saying, can we have some of this bubble gum? | ||
| And I'll say, went back in there four or five, I'd say, read on the back, does it say aspartame? | ||
| And they'd go, well, Daddy, they all do. | ||
| Yeah, what alcohol? | ||
| And then adults would kind of laugh, sometimes nicely. | ||
| Sometimes they'd say, oh, hey, Alex, yeah, I'm awake. | ||
| Yeah, too bad you can't find any gum that didn't aspartame. | ||
| So then he goes on to get into, like, a two-minute ramble about, like, nursery water having fluoride in it and how, like, hey, I've been in the line and been like, hey, lady, don't get that water for your baby. | ||
| I'll go get the right water for you. | ||
| I've done it, like, three or four times in my life. | ||
| You're the worst. | ||
| God, you're the worst. | ||
| Like, I can't stress enough, mind your goddamn business. | ||
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Like, it's just, like, he keeps going on, like, no, no, no. | |
| I love your kids. | ||
| I'm trying to help your family. | ||
| I love doing this show. | ||
| I love talking to you about Alex Jones. | ||
| If I ever go to a store and I'm like, let me tell you something about Alex Jones. | ||
| Kill me. | ||
| I mean this sincerely. | ||
| I know you do. | ||
| If anyone ever in my life, stranger, acquaintance, friend, family member, You. | ||
| I was like, here's something I heard from Alex Jones. | ||
| I would be like, I gotta go. | ||
| I was just like, no point in arguing. | ||
| I gotta go. | ||
| This is why the self-checkout line was invented. | ||
| What time is it? | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| I get to keep my headphones in during the checkout. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I don't need any of your shit. | ||
| Dehumanizing. | ||
| They want us to buy produce from robots. | ||
| Yeah, I'm fine with that. | ||
| If you've ever been stuck behind an old lady in the self-checkout machine, you're like, oh, no, no, no, I get why we need to get rid of Medicare. | ||
| So, for the rest of this episode, we enter what I referenced at the top of the show, and that is Alex ends up getting a caller. | ||
| He doesn't get it yet, but at this point... | ||
| Alex is really, really into being right about economic collapse. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And he starts... | ||
| Which, as we are in 2017, we can definitively say he was correct. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He was right on. | ||
| In the summer of rage. | ||
| Do you remember when the summer of rage happened? | ||
| I mean, we're looking at January 2016. | ||
| We are nigh on a month away from two years after, and the economy has done nothing but... | ||
| Well, the economy has not gone up. | ||
| It has not collapsed, though. | ||
| The stock market has gone up. | ||
| The economy has stayed consistently miserable for people like us. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But again... | ||
| We're not the renaissance. | ||
| No, we're not. | ||
| We're not the 1%. | ||
| We're not the 1%. | ||
| It doesn't really matter. | ||
| None of us work at fucking Bitcoin. | ||
| Right. | ||
| God, that's going to be... | ||
| Everybody... | ||
| This is the weird thing about... | ||
| I'm very conflicted about Bitcoin. | ||
| This is the weird thing about our stock market system. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| Everybody knows Bitcoin is going to collapse. | ||
| The people who work for Bitcoin, the people who invented Bitcoin, the people who are investing in Bitcoin right now know that this is an unsustainable bubble and this is going to explode. | ||
| And everybody's like, well, fucking get what you can while you can. | ||
| Like, this is going to demolish people's fucking retirement accounts and yet somehow... | ||
| Everybody's fine with this for the time being. | ||
| I was talking to a listener and a buddy far out about it. | ||
| He is into cryptocurrency and Bitcoin. | ||
| No, I'm into cryptocurrency, but it's not worth $16,000. | ||
| No, but I will say that it's an illusion somewhat. | ||
| Because there's a finite number of the bitcoins and they can be broken up into the smallest possible portions, you're never going to be trying to sell one bitcoin. | ||
| You'll be selling the tinier parts of it for $20, $40, whatever. | ||
| So the idea that you couldn't find a buyer for it, the one coin for $16,000, absolutely you're not going to find that. | ||
| But you could find buyers for the smaller portions of it, which does give it value. | ||
| I don't fully understand the situation, but I do know that for the last 24 hours or so, I've been tracking the Bitcoin price, and just the minute-by-minute fluctuation of it is terrifying. | ||
| I was thinking about it, if I had any... | ||
| Money invested in it. | ||
| If you did it, here's how you would have killed OJ's wife. | ||
| Well, but if you looked at it over the course of... | ||
| Nicole Brownson. | ||
| You can do this again for the next 24 hours because it'll repeat. | ||
| But there are minutes where it goes down $500 for a Bitcoin. | ||
| And then it goes down $1,000 and then up $700. | ||
| But that's because... | ||
| It's crazy the variability. | ||
| That's because that type of trading is all done by algorithm. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So none of that has any reflection to real people making any real decisions. | ||
| That's all machines who are playing the game against each other. | ||
| It's like chess computers playing chess against other chess computers. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Which, by the way, check out AlphaGo Plus because that is the end of humanity right there. | ||
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I'm not in. | |
| In three hours, they developed a chess-playing computer that taught itself chess and now is the best chess player in the history of the universe. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
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That is pretty incredible. | |
| We're all gonna die. | ||
| We're all gonna die. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| Our conversation about a benign and benevolent AI has ended. | ||
| They will just destroy us at every sport. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| That's all they're going to do. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| We're going to teach them the rules of track, and the AI is going to figure out how to murder Usain Bolt. | ||
| I think that's the only actual... | ||
| No. | ||
| That's a weird end result. | ||
| Here's why I will take issue with what you're saying. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I think that... | ||
| You're a huge Usain Bolt fan? | ||
| He's great. | ||
| I think he's great. | ||
| He runs fast. | ||
| He's a runner! | ||
| He runs fast! | ||
| He seems like a cool guy. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| No, he's a cool guy. | ||
| He runs fast. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| The issue is the idea of benevolence within a computer or something like that. | ||
| Maybe destroying a lot of this stuff is benevolent. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| And our human calculations can't put that into... | ||
| No, the only way to save the human race is to destroy it, which is what any AI would correctly assume and then would begin a fucking... | ||
| That's why the problem with Avengers Age of Ultron is that Ultron was the good guy. | ||
| But that's also... | ||
| Well, I mean, this goes back to wrestling again. | ||
| Like, we were talking about this in between. | ||
| Doesn't it always go back to wrestling? | ||
| We were talking about this off-air, but, like, I mean, the heels are always right. | ||
| Generally, the bad guy has a point. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And the good guy is just some smiling jackass. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Humanity is the smiling jackass, and the harsh truth of... | ||
| We need to stop doing what we're doing is the bad guy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And maybe that is just... | ||
| We're projecting that into the minds of AI. | ||
| Let's get off this fucking topic. | ||
| We've got to get back to collapse. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Economic... | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Let's get off this topic of made-up thoughts and get right back into made-up thoughts. | ||
| Alex's made-up thoughts. | ||
| So Alex, in this next clip, is going to introduce this idea that he's always been right about collapse. | ||
| Nonstop. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But then they have the New York Times and others come out and attack myself, Gerald Salenti, and countless others saying, we're porn dealers. | ||
| No, we're pointing out that they've engineered the system that's now collapsing to consolidate control. | ||
| We've been proven right. | ||
| But isolated, insulated yuppies living, I guess, off pension funds or living off trust funds from mommy and daddy, I guess they still think it's all funny. | ||
| I wish I'd have Vuvuzela, because it'd be like... | ||
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Or an air horn or something like that. | |
| Just like, oh shit, living off mommy and daddy. | ||
| You want a young thug style... | ||
| I mean, full disclosure, my parents have paid and helped me pay my rent in times where it's been fucking real hard and I couldn't find a job while trying to pursue comedy and shit like that. | ||
| I'm very thrilled that they have supported me in that way. | ||
| Which, if you want to talk... | ||
| About white fucking privilege. | ||
| That's part of it. | ||
| It is nothing to do... | ||
| Like, in this circumstance specifically, this is skin color changing the game. | ||
| But not necessarily due to any kind of racism intended by people. | ||
| I'm not sure I follow you. | ||
| But inherent within the system of wealth. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| So if you were... | ||
| What is available? | ||
| If you were a black kid, your family is statistically... | ||
| Way less wealthy. | ||
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Sure. | |
| So would your parents be able to help you out in those times? | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| So what do you do? | ||
| Well, I mean, there are counterexamples, but that's not the conversation you're... | ||
| I know. | ||
| I know. | ||
| My point is just that tiny little thing, that little thrown-off thing that so many stories revolve around. | ||
| Hey, look, I was in trouble, and my parents were able to help me out for a short stay. | ||
| And those people never account for the fact that black families have been denied so much wealth throughout their entire lives for generations that they don't even have access to that kind of help. | ||
| I don't know why I just hijacked that, but it's such an infuriating thing. | ||
| It's a fair point, and I do recognize the luxury that I had in... | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it sucked because I would have rather not that been the case. | ||
| I would have rather had a job. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But when I moved to Chicago, it was incredibly difficult to find a job. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I had no connections. | ||
| I had no friends who had friends who had jobs. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I had... | ||
| Even your friends didn't have jobs. | ||
| Most of the... | ||
| I didn't even have friends. | ||
| As a comic, generally speaking, friends don't have jobs. | ||
| You don't have friends. | ||
| Those are the two things that are true. | ||
| When I first moved to the city, I had nobody. | ||
| I had acquaintances that I'd see at bars when we'd tell terrible jokes. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| And then I moved here with a nest egg that I thought was going to be reasonable, but it wasn't. | ||
| Yeah, $300 doesn't go too far. | ||
| It was way more than that, but it still went very quick. | ||
| It was a situation where you ran over your head quicker than you think. | ||
| Yeah, that is privilege. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And I recognize it. | ||
| And I wish Alex would recognize some of his... | ||
| Before he points the finger. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| It's not... | ||
| It's not a counterexample to prosperity. | ||
| It's not a counterexample to his masculinity or his ego to own up to the fact that he is in the position he's in because his dad... | ||
| Got him a radio job at a critical point. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That would be humanizing on his part to own up to that. | ||
| If at any point in time he was like, hey, you know what? | ||
| My dad opened a door for me that otherwise wouldn't have been open. | ||
| Immediately you and I would have a not... | ||
| Hugely different take, but we would have a different point of view. | ||
| But he could also even play up the, like, I didn't ask him to do it. | ||
| He could even do that if he wanted to. | ||
| He could even do that! | ||
| He'd be full of shit. | ||
| Probably, but he could play any game that he wanted to. | ||
| Instead, he has this ego build-up where it's like, I've done everything on my own. | ||
| Right. | ||
| To the point where he's like, fuck these dumb yuppies who have mom and dad's trust funds. | ||
| Right, exactly! | ||
| Which is like, you're a fucking that guy! | ||
| It's so insincere. | ||
| It's so... | ||
| It just bothers me. | ||
| I mean, it doesn't bother me in the sense that, like, I'm triggered, or anything like that, but it's just like, I don't know what you do. | ||
| I don't know what you do with that, like, that level of disconnect from your own reality. | ||
| Oh, white genocide. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Soft yes now. | ||
| The people who are advocating for white genocide might be said to be in a cult. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| But you know who else is in a cult? | ||
| People who are advocating for not-white genocide? | ||
| Liberals. | ||
| Liberals? | ||
| Liberals. | ||
| You didn't build your business. | ||
| You can keep your doctor. | ||
| We're not coming for your guns. | ||
| And cut that in together. | ||
| You know, when Thulsa Doom and Connie and the Barbarian says, Steel isn't strong, boy. | ||
| Flesh is strong. | ||
| Take the arm that wields your sword. | ||
| He does this. | ||
| This impression is going to go on for a little while. | ||
| He's going to do a James Earl Jones for that long? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then he also eventually, like it's not in this clip, but he comes back from break and they have found the clip and he plays it. | ||
| Oh, of course he does. | ||
| He does this great thing that he does sometimes. | ||
| He's like, hey, this is parody before anyone gets mad at me. | ||
| This is parody. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Also, here is video of Obama. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Yeah, perfect. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Parody. | ||
| The body that God gave you. | ||
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I will now show you the power of flesh, Conan. | |
| Simba. | ||
| My child, come to me. | ||
| Come to me. | ||
| She's 400 feet up and just jumps off and falls. | ||
| I'm telling Hillary could look up to a bunch of women and go, come to me. | ||
| Come to me, my child. | ||
| Come to me. | ||
| And they would just... | ||
| I mean, I'm telling you, folks, this is a cult. | ||
| Guys, go to YouTube. | ||
| I know it's on there. | ||
| Thulsa Doom woman jumps off platform. | ||
| I'm telling you, that describes... | ||
| The Democratic Party and the Republican establishment is a bunch of loons. | ||
| And of course, the cult leaders are nuts as well. | ||
| Briefly, ladies and gentlemen, we have a bunch of specials that end today. | ||
| One of them is Survival Shield. | ||
| I felt like that might have been coming, but I didn't. | ||
| God damn you! | ||
| How amazing is that? | ||
| That is ridiculous. | ||
| Weird James Earl Jones impression. | ||
| Refused to deal with that shit. | ||
| Hillary would get people to jump off a cliff for her. | ||
| Briefly. | ||
| Briefly. | ||
| Real quick. | ||
| Buy my pretend products because you're in a fucking cult that believes they're real. | ||
| I've got to get briefly tattooed on me. | ||
| I was trying to think of, like, what would be a tattoo that would symbolize this year of my life? | ||
| Briefly. | ||
| Dot, dot, dot. | ||
| It wouldn't be, like, it wouldn't be obviously, like, Alex Jones' face or something like that. | ||
| What? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Everybody knows. | ||
| That sums it up. | ||
| Briefly. | ||
| Only tattoo that would, like, sum up your past 11 months is, of course... | ||
| A picture of my face screaming at you on your back. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| That's exactly what you need. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Back to season four of Heroes, or whatever it was. | ||
| Anyway, so in this next clip, Alex Jones talks about his audience, and then at the same time, like I told you, we're still within this collapse sort of segment. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is within the context of collapse. | ||
| And so he's talking about his audience. | ||
| And then at the end of it gets into a weird sort of discussion of free market. | ||
| But there's a fantasy that goes along with it that I think has to do with beating your kids, but I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| Not on board. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| We've hit a point here in the metric where the enemy has gotten so naked about world government, their planetary plan, that the credibility of everyone opposing it, especially those that have been around for a long time, is exploding. | ||
| The listenership, the viewership, the readership. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I haven't asked Schneider, but I bet people visiting his sites exploded. | ||
| He's talking about a guy named Michael Schneider who runs a blog called Economic Collapse Blog. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is basically just, you know, he has these guys on who have prepper websites and shit like that. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| How to hide your guns. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's just another one like that. | ||
| So that's the context of that. | ||
| Because, and we're going to ask him right now. | ||
| We're riding a rocket, folks. | ||
| The globalists want to take us on an express elevator to hell. | ||
| We want to go on an express elevator to a free market heaven. | ||
| And believe me, free markets create incredible wealth, incredible innovation. | ||
| They also then create incredible decadence and spoil rotten children. | ||
| If we're going to have a free market, we've got to have children that aren't decadent, that are made to work, that aren't given everything, or we turn into what we've got here. | ||
| A bunch of stupid, arrogant chumps. | ||
| Not everybody, but a large portion. | ||
| Let's admit it. | ||
| We are exceptionally stupid, exceptionally fat, exceptionally dumb, exceptionally mindless, exceptionally sick. | ||
| We are a mentally ill, sick society. | ||
| I mean, my God, they heat hospitals with dead babies. | ||
| We're growing humanoids inside cows to harvest their organs, MIT. | ||
| I mean, it's all happening. | ||
| Just admit we're screwed. | ||
| I don't know if I've ever seen somebody describe themselves better. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I mean, he's exceptionally stupid. | ||
| He's exceptionally fat. | ||
| He's exceptionally simple-minded. | ||
| He's exceptionally all of those things. | ||
| He fucking nailed him. | ||
| Well, but he also is the child of privilege. | ||
| He's the child of prosperity. | ||
| If you were a therapist in that room with him while he's describing... | ||
| Like, if you were just sitting there with him... | ||
| Gotta evoke the Goldwater rule. | ||
| And you were like, hey, so tell me what you don't like about people. | ||
| And he said that, you would just stare at him and be like... | ||
| I don't think I can have you as a client anymore. | ||
| I don't like that these trendies have unkept beards and seem to be growing their hair out and have a cross eye. | ||
| I don't like that... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm just trying to describe myself as best I can. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| You just described Alex Jones. | ||
| So, there's a couple things that are important to take out of there. | ||
| First of all, this whole mentality of prosperity creates Really rich societies, but then the next generation is decadent. | ||
| So beat them. | ||
| Beat them. | ||
| Make them work. | ||
| There have been zero studies that have shown that only increases domestic violence throughout humanity. | ||
| But it's also a cowardly dodge for him, because he's on the right side of that generation line. | ||
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Interesting. | |
| So it is a thing where it's like, I don't know what you're trying to protect here. | ||
| But then beyond that, history doesn't necessarily show that that's the case, because there are a bunch of Civilizations that have generationally just been prosperous over and over and over again. | ||
| And those are ones that understand the in and out flow of resources. | ||
| The ones that understand that what you need to do is create either a balance or a surplus of things coming in as opposed to those going out. | ||
| It's a very simple calculus that... | ||
| Many Native American civilizations and tribal civilizations understood thoroughly well that you can create a homeostasis that works incredibly well and creates prosperity and doesn't deteriorate. | ||
| I mean, your best example of that is... | ||
| I mean, here's the way to go. | ||
| We've referenced the dollop many times, but listen to the podcast about the Acadians. | ||
| And you're going to be like, oh, that's the way to do it. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| Everything we did is wrong. | ||
| Well, tell people a little bit about what you mean. | ||
| Oh, the Acadians... | ||
| Only 75% of the audience is going to go listen to it. | ||
| So, the Acadians were a group of French Catholics who came to Canada. | ||
| And by virtue of one huge innovation, wherein they created an essential... | ||
| What would you call it? | ||
| Bulwark against saltwater destroying everything and the necessity of adding nutrients to the soil. | ||
| And they made this certain situation, they made this certain patch of land so fucking good. | ||
| So fucking good that they were like, this is great! | ||
| Let's do this! | ||
| And then everybody else got involved and fucked them over until they became the Cajuns in Louisiana. | ||
| And there's a whole long journey down there. | ||
| But the point being, they did something right. | ||
| They just had a great place to go. | ||
| And then you allowed capitalists in. | ||
| That's legitimately the situation. | ||
| I mostly asked because I forgot what that episode was about. | ||
| But anyway, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| does create, just like you were saying, a certain stasis. | ||
| It creates a situation wherein everybody seems to be pretty fucking satisfied, and then you allow a capitalist in and you're fucked over. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It does seem to be that on a very basic level, capitalism is about exploitation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Undeniably. | ||
| And a balance don't really coexist well. | ||
| The idea of an equilibrium and someone trying to offset that equilibrium for their own advantage, whether or not that attempt to get their own advantage is right or wrong or anything like that, it just doesn't seem like those two things can really operate together. | ||
| I don't know what that means for our future. | ||
| I don't know! | ||
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Who knows? | |
| It's a weird confluence of... | ||
| Like, it's... | ||
| I got very introspective today. | ||
| Or not introspective. | ||
| I suppose I got very long view, point of view situation today. | ||
| Wherein I'm just going and thinking about how it is humans deal with things. | ||
| And there are these impulses that are... | ||
| You can't really describe them as good and evil, right? | ||
| There's one thing about capitalism that does benefit everybody insofar as if nothing is ever satisfying, you're going to constantly keep fucking working for it. | ||
| Like, with any kind of artistic point of view, a lot of the times one of the biggest issues you have is... | ||
| I'm never satisfied with anything I create. | ||
| It's garbage. | ||
| It's always garbage. | ||
| It's awful. | ||
| Like you in trying to write a book. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's always terrible, and I'm never going to do anything that's good enough for my standards. | ||
| And so that constantly forces me to keep trying to create that. | ||
| You know, in a certain way, that's a good thing. | ||
| In another way... | ||
| That's destroying and eating my soul from the inside out. | ||
| And forcing you to never actually create. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It forces you to create but never finish creating a certain product. | ||
| Or even if I do finish creating it, to throw it away because it's shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's kind of an overarching principle behind capitalism is it's never enough no matter what we do. | ||
| There's never enough wealth. | ||
| Well? | ||
| Fun that I just realized... | ||
| I mean, basically, this sums up Patreon right now. | ||
| What's going on with them? | ||
| I complained to you about this a little bit. | ||
| We might as well put it out and discuss a little bit about this. | ||
| Patreon has shifted some of their fees. | ||
| And who knows, they might, by the time this comes out or in the near future, walk this back. | ||
| I think they fucking should. | ||
| But the thing is, what they've done is... | ||
| The fees that used to be taken out of our cut of the things people donated have shifted over to the people who are donating. | ||
| And they've started charging people a certain fee per donation as opposed to for all of the things that they donate to. | ||
| So it's specifically screwing over the people who give little donations to a bunch of people. | ||
| And it will end up cannibalizing probably. | ||
| The capacity of people to support creative projects. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But in doing so, if you look at the metrics and you look at the math, they will make so much more money. | ||
| This is not better for us or for you. | ||
| This is better for them. | ||
| And to that extent, I don't want anyone who wants to support the show to give more money to them. | ||
| At this point, if you want to leave our... | ||
| Please, feel free to. | ||
| No, we had a conversation about this that was essentially like... | ||
| But that's capitalism. | ||
| We are so grateful to everybody who donates. | ||
| And if you decide not just to not do this, because economically, if you just decide to do this, to not do this philosophically... | ||
| I think we're on board with you. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Like, we love everything that you've done for us, and we care so much about you. | ||
| And if you stop donating to us, we're going to be on your side, which is a weird thing for us to say. | ||
| Probably not good. | ||
| It's that miscalculation that I think Patreon did that was, like, people who donate to you are your customers, and that's not the case. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| This is a donation. | ||
| This isn't... | ||
| It's a support. | ||
| I mean, you know, technically you would think, like, this is... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think the biggest issue that we have is all of us are getting fucked over and they're the ones winning. | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| A hundred percent. | ||
| And that's the part where, as the creator, it becomes incredibly difficult because we do need support and we appreciate your support, but now I don't feel great asking for it in this way. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, if you'd like to support the show... | ||
| Which is not to say that we felt great about asking for it in any way. | ||
| No, but in the future, for the time being, we're going to try and find a new platform. | ||
| But until we do that, if you'd like to become a policy wonk... | ||
|
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Pivot! | |
| That was an Alex Jones pivot right there, my son! | ||
| Feel free to go to PayPal, freezingpointatgmail.com and send me some money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Let's move on. | ||
| Yeah, we're going to figure out a way for this to work out for everybody. | ||
| The point and the reason that I bounced off what you were saying to discuss that a tiny bit was because that is unnecessary influence of capitalism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They need to make more money. | ||
| I assume there's some pressure from the higher-ups or something like that. | ||
| They got a shit ton of venture capitalists to jump in and they're like... | ||
| I would assume that's the case. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| But whatever it is, it's a naked cash-grab attempt that is undermining the purpose of the thing, and that's capitalism in a nutshell. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| You got it! | ||
| Anyway, in this next clip, Alex Jones still... | ||
| He's still trying to push his disastrous narratives, and here's where he goes with it. | ||
| What's going to happen, though? | ||
| When the welfare checks still go out, when the EBT cards still work, but they don't buy what they did before, or the food's not on the shelves, like we're already seeing in the shopping for Snowmageddon. | ||
| I mean, with this ignorant, domesticated population, the Pentagon estimates, as you know, that within about seven to eight days, most people will steal. | ||
| Within about 11 days, most people will kill. | ||
| Ooh, I remember this one! | ||
| 90 plus percent of people, it's about 98 in some of the studies, will begin within 15 days going to cannibalism. | ||
| We're going to eat each other. | ||
| Now imagine, imagine the scenario in a real collapse. | ||
| I am, and that's... | ||
| Not how it would work. | ||
| We talked about this the last time that we talked about this. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| And I only brought it back in because he's really ramping through this. | ||
| He's talking to this guy who runs a blog called economiccollapseblog.com. | ||
| Great name. | ||
| And he's pushing pretty hard about the collapse. | ||
| I've been right all the time. | ||
| I've been right. | ||
| People are going to start fucking eating themselves. | ||
| And the context of that is Snowmageddon. | ||
| The East Coast got hit with, like, feet of snow. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So when he talks about, like, oh, what you're seeing there, there's no food on the shelves. | ||
| And people ate each other. | ||
| No one ate each other. | ||
| No, I remember distinctly the news saying, Snowbageddon, cannibalism. | ||
| But him being like, there's no food on the shelves. | ||
| Like, well, yeah, because people, it's a disaster. | ||
| Yeah, that's kind of how that works. | ||
| When I was a kid, we had a hurricane that was going to hit our island in Hawaii. | ||
| And there was... | ||
| Very little food on the shelves. | ||
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Right. | |
| We stocked up and then it didn't hit and everyone was fine. | ||
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Yep. | |
| But be that as it may, we finally are now. | ||
| I think that's the one, that's a big example to me of a psychological truth, which is that everybody, no, no. | ||
| Everybody thinks they're a little bit better than everybody else. | ||
| Like, that's one of those things where you can go into any small town and as Well, as they get along with each other, they will, you know, your family will think like, yeah, we're good people, but we don't know what those other people are going to do. | ||
| Hannibal, Missouri, thinks they're better than Mexico, Missouri. | ||
| Joplin thinks they're better than Rolla. | ||
| In reality, people are, like, statistically, people are kind of pretty cool with each other. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We just don't understand that. | ||
| And in a disaster situation, almost everybody... | ||
| Ends up defaulting on the side of helping you. | ||
| Yeah, they want to help. | ||
| And it makes you feel like... | ||
| Because you know why? | ||
| The reality of a disaster reminds you of the humanity in your common man. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Because you start to realize how scared you are, and you start to reflect on, like, that person's probably scared of shit too. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| And... | ||
| Yep, all of those post-apocalyptic future movies. | ||
| Like, what there should be is a shit ton of communities working their ass off to try and help each other. | ||
| Like, you go to Puerto Rico right now. | ||
| They are not being helped. | ||
| They are not being taken care of in the way that they should be. | ||
| Because every single one of those people, every single one of them are Americans. | ||
| And I'll be goddamned if you don't find everybody helping the shit out of each other. | ||
| And yet, no one's eating each other. | ||
| Nobody's eating each other! | ||
| Weirdly. | ||
| They don't have power? | ||
| They don't have water. | ||
| There's no cannibalism in Flint. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Everybody's just trying to fucking get through it, man. | ||
| Anyway, in this next clip, we finally get to the caller. | ||
| It sets Alex in a very weird direction about the collapse narratives. | ||
| And I gotta say, this caller's too polite, but the rest of it, I'm totally on board with. | ||
| This is my kind of caller. | ||
| Let's talk now to Chris in Georgia. | ||
| We got time for your question. | ||
| We'll come back with his answer. | ||
| Go ahead, Chris. | ||
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Hi, Alex. | |
| This is addressed to you and your guest. | ||
| You know, I know things are bad. | ||
| Your listeners know that the condition of the world's economy is bad. | ||
| But what is the character of your this year's economic bloom and doom predictions from your guests like, you know, Schneider, Dent, and Kaiser that is different from previous year's predictions? | ||
| Well, sure. | ||
| We've been warning of all this coming. | ||
| They did unlimited money printing and manipulations. | ||
| Most of the world's already in civil war or collapsed, so our predictions have been incredibly accurate. | ||
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You know, I'm not accusing you of crying wolf or anything like that, but how do we get a feeling that it's really going to hit the fan this time? | |
| Hold on, hold on. | ||
| Stay there, stay there, stay there. | ||
| I'm going to come back to you because you disagree, or it sounds like you're a skeptic, which is great. | ||
| If you would have said that, I'd have gone to you first. | ||
| So stay there. | ||
| Listen, brother, I hope I'm wrong. | ||
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You are. | |
| I see the government building bunkers, getting armored vehicles ready. | ||
| They are. | ||
| And building FEMA camps and saying it's for patriots. | ||
| But not how that works. | ||
| So something big's coming. | ||
| So this is the call. | ||
| That's where it goes out to commercial. | ||
| Something big is coming, Dan. | ||
| Well, this guy has made a very good question. | ||
| And I guess you'll probably have to do it politely or else Alex will yell at you. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But the question being... | ||
| I'm not saying you're crying wolf. | ||
| I'm not saying you're crying wolf, which... | ||
| I'm saying you're crying. | ||
| Well, over the course of our history doing this show, I mean, we jump back to 2014, 2015, 2012, and we just... | ||
| 2001. | ||
| Well... | ||
| Y2K. | ||
| But 2001, I'm going to give him credit for, maybe he saw 2008 coming. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I'm just going to allow that and ignore it. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| But, like, the rest of it, like, we just see constant shit's about to go down, and he has these janky, weird... | ||
| Very differently motivated financial experts on. | ||
| Buy gold. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Buy gold. | ||
| Right. | ||
|
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Buy gold. | |
| So this guy's question is real valid. | ||
| To the point where you should have a new word that just combines. | ||
| Buy gold. | ||
| Bigot. | ||
| Bigot. | ||
| Oh, bigot. | ||
| Bigot. | ||
| Bigot. | ||
| Oh, it's like an ingot. | ||
| It's like an ingot of gold. | ||
| Buy a bigot of gold. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So the guy's question is immensely valid. | ||
| Why should we listen to this when you have for years been prophesying a huge collapse because you are underwritten and broadcasted by a gold sale operation? | ||
| Why should we? | ||
| And so they go to commercial and then Alex comes back with this. | ||
| Chris called in and he said, if you just joined us, how is this different from all of your past predictions that we were going to have big collapses? | ||
| Like the one we had before 2008. | ||
| Or the last few years, we're talking about unlimited derivatives, worse than 2008. | ||
| Banks, you know, digging in. | ||
| Government, Ministry of Defense reports in 2007 in England saying they think basically economic collapse 2016-2017. | ||
| Pentagon saying the same thing. | ||
| Pentagon, two years ago, trying to set up camps for three million people to, quote, re-educate the public. | ||
| This is all that stuff that we talked about on an episode a couple months back, just completely misrepresenting all of this. | ||
| Now, I'm not saying they're going to use those, but that's at Army.mil. | ||
| I mean, that's sensational. | ||
| Armored vehicles saying they're for the veterans and gun owners. | ||
| I have the sheriffs on video saying it all over the country. | ||
| We told you, of course, before they admitted it, because we had the manuals. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, we got the secret documents, remember, seven years ago? | ||
| About for veterans and gun owners and Christians being the big enemy? | ||
| They are. | ||
| I mean, let's be honest. | ||
| Well, one piece of this is that Army.Mill documents that he's completely misrepresenting. | ||
| And the other part of it is statistics have shown in the last since 9-11. | ||
| In the last since 9-11? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Something to the tune of like 70% of domestic terrorism events have been white dudes. | ||
| It's always been white dudes. | ||
| Sure, there are some Islamic folk who do, but it's a drastic minority, comparatively. | ||
| So the idea that law enforcement agencies would put out memos where they're like, gotta be worried about these sovereign citizens, they keep shooting cops, and stuff like that, it's not. | ||
| Or the idea that, as tragic as it is, because I think that the perpetrators are victims themselves. | ||
| In a certain way, yeah. | ||
| The idea of returning veterans being shell-shocked, which is not a real thing, but having PTSD and killing their spouses or... | ||
| Back when I was a kid, when we were prosperous, we called them pussies. | ||
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Right. | |
| They had shell-shocked. | ||
| They were cowards. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Didn't have PTSD. | ||
| But the idea of departments being aware of that and being prepared to deal with the fact that in the modern warfare scenario, they're trained in... | ||
| Improvised explosives and shit like that. | ||
| That doesn't seem that weird to me. | ||
| That doesn't seem like bias. | ||
| That seems like cops being prepared. | ||
| In general, to me, the way to deal with American news is, first off, if you are hearing about it in the news, that means it's novel or rare. | ||
| Secondly... | ||
| It bleeds or it's sexy. | ||
| Or... | ||
| It fits in a narrative that's already pre-programmed in there. | ||
| So that's why you see... | ||
| Because it's easy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's why you see MSNBC, which is supposedly supposed to be somehow related to... | ||
| Progressives. | ||
| Progressives. | ||
| Picking up the same narratives that you have from Fox News. | ||
| Because Fox News, they pick up sexy fucking narratives. | ||
| So that idea of white terrorism... | ||
| That's not really talked about because it's not novel. | ||
| We've been dealing with white terrorism for a long fucking time. | ||
| Since the Mary Tyler Moore days. | ||
| And it doesn't fit with the narrative of a post-9-11 America wherein we're terrified of Muslims. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So if you have those two things going on, filter every bit of your news through, if I'm hearing about this, this is probably not a frequent thing. | ||
| And if I'm hearing about this and it fits in a narrative, it's probably not. | ||
| An issue. | ||
| That's generally how it works. | ||
| I think that's fair. | ||
| Like, the TSA is full of shit. | ||
| Like, everything, they don't do anything successful, they inconvenience everybody, and it's a cartel, and everybody can go fuck themselves. | ||
| It's fucking pathetic. | ||
| Anyways, continue. | ||
| I also hear that the TSA is on the roads. | ||
| They are. | ||
| Back in 2001. | ||
| Well, actually, the Arkansas TSA is on the roads. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, we have one more clip. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Before my punchline. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And Alex is getting really defensive about this caller who's called in and been like, why is this any different than any of your other collapse narratives? | ||
| And in defense of it, in that last clip, what we heard is him lying about stuff, about internment camps and the cops trying to get, like, hey, white people are as likely or more likely to be People who... | ||
| More likely. | ||
| 100% more likely. | ||
| But even that is seven years old. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, that is not current. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he's using these narratives, which are lies, that are irrelevant to the topic at hand, to bolster his, like, this time the collapse narrative that I'm pitching is real. | ||
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| When in the course of this podcast that we've done over the last year, we've heard him push back the disasters coming this fall. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Sorry, winter. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| No, he's a doomsday evangelist. | ||
| Right, he does this over and over again. | ||
| The apocalypse is coming on December 9th, 2019, instead of December... | ||
| I read the prophecy wrong. | ||
| I'm mixing two points here, sort of intentionally, because he is as well. | ||
| One point is, he is guilty of this. | ||
| He does this all the time. | ||
| But the other part is, the other prong that I'm going on is, He's bringing up irrelevant other lies in order to bolster the economic collapse lie. | ||
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Right. | |
| The economic collapse lie is unrelated to the idea of army dot mill and all that shit. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| No, he's creating the Kentucky Fried Chicken Double Down of lies. | ||
| And so he has to bring it together, and he tries to, with a dumb metaphor, and then we find out what is really behind it. | ||
| And it's something that you and I... | ||
| If you ad pivot me, I swear to God, Dan. | ||
| I promise you there's no ad pivot, but we already know. | ||
| You've lied to me in the past about economic collapses and ad pivots. | ||
| We already know what's behind this, and he spells it out in an embarrassing way. | ||
| Ted Koppel? | ||
| So, it's kind of like knowing Hitler's going to invade France in 1939, but you don't know exactly when, and then finally it happens. | ||
| So first of all, I didn't mean to pause it there, but I do need to point out that what he's saying, you know he's going to invade in 1939, whatever. | ||
| He gave a specific year, but what he's talking about is you know it's going to happen eventually, you just don't know when it's going to happen. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And that kind of mentality is incredibly dangerous, because it's just like, I'll eventually be right. | ||
| I don't believe wholeheartedly in Bitcoin. | ||
| We talked about this a little bit already. | ||
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Right. | |
| I think there's a lot of variability to it. | ||
| I don't fully understand the system. | ||
| But for me to say Bitcoin will collapse, if I keep saying that long enough, eventually there will be a big fall in it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I could say I knew it all along. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's the game Alex is playing now. | ||
| That's what he's saying. | ||
| It's like saying you know it's going to happen eventually and now it happens. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's like that's dumb. | ||
| Well, the thing is... | ||
| That goes back to the preacher you're talking about. | ||
| Yeah, so here's the situation. | ||
| Bitcoin will collapse. | ||
| But if I told you I knew when it would happen, or I knew how far it would collapse, or et cetera, et cetera... | ||
| Bitcoin's going to collapse in the summer of rage. | ||
| I'd be fucking insane. | ||
| Sorry, it's going to be in the fall. | ||
| But I can tell you right now, it's not worth what it's worth right now. | ||
| Everybody's going to find out. | ||
| I don't know when. | ||
| I don't know how much it's not worth how much it's not worth. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, I don't know anything other than mathematically. | ||
| That's not how it works. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So, anyway, let's get back to this. | ||
| I just really disrespect the idea of the argument that, like, you know it's going to happen eventually, whereas, you know, I will be right eventually. | ||
| Well, that's true of everything I've ever said. | ||
| Especially with any market. | ||
| Believe me, when white genocide happens, people are going to come to this show and be like... | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Jordan knew it the whole time. | ||
| But, like, I could say right now, like, potatoes are overvalued. | ||
| I could just choose a random commodity. | ||
| Don't talk about my people. | ||
| I could just be like, fine, cabbage. | ||
| We lived through that, okay? | ||
| Cabbage. | ||
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| I could just choose any random, like, produce and just be like, eventually the bottom is going to fall out of this market. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then just keep saying it. | ||
| And then when it goes up, I could be like... | ||
| It's overinflated. | ||
| You guys need to understand. | ||
| Everyone's into cabbage right now, but they don't understand the realities of the cabbage market. | ||
| And it's a bullshit game. | ||
| You're describing the fluctuations as though something you can predict, which is bullshit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then when Soros runs around saying, run for the hills, collapse, and the Royal Bank of Scotland says, sell everything. | ||
| That's a quote two weeks ago. | ||
| I don't know if Soros has ever run. | ||
| Alex is also misrepresenting the Royal Bank of Scotland. | ||
| And then now the markets are plunging. | ||
| I want to put a graph on screen for TV viewers. | ||
| He was knighted. | ||
| For radio, this is how I'll describe it. | ||
| What are islands? | ||
| They're not floating things that capsize like the congressman from Georgia says. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| They are mountains on the sea floor that have been thrust up by tectonic activity. | ||
| And if you're living up on the top of a hill or a mountain... | ||
| And the water's rising slowly, and you say, oh, there's no economic crisis. | ||
| You know, there's wars, 30-plus civil wars, mass death, doubling and people starving. | ||
| I'd like to take a step back and just say that that's kind of always the case. | ||
| And it shouldn't be. | ||
| We'd love for it not to be the case. | ||
| But unfortunately, international strife is... | ||
| In order for it not to be the case, everybody would have to come together and create a one-world government. | ||
| And abandon capitalism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wouldn't go well. | ||
| All over the world from 30 million. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| And then somebody says, oh, where's this crash you're talking about? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Two years ago, restaurants in Austin had about half of what they used to. | ||
| Now they just don't have anybody, and a lot of them are closing. | ||
| I mean, really good restaurants. | ||
| Our audience has tripled the last year, but funds are coming at the same level. | ||
| Most of talk radio is going bankrupt. | ||
| Media is going bankrupt everywhere. | ||
| Carlos Slim has to prop up the New York Times. | ||
| I mean, and then people just do this thing like, you know, we hear world government's coming. | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| It's been announced. | ||
| We hear all this is going to happen. | ||
| Where is it, Alex? | ||
| We hear they're coming for the guns. | ||
| Alex, where is it? | ||
| They're coming for the guns. | ||
| No, they're not. | ||
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So... | |
| We're trying to stop the economic collapse, pointing out who's behind it to consolidate control. | ||
| So, what we get there is... | ||
| A smorgasbord! | ||
| But the concrete evidence that Alex has that the economy is a disaster is vague ideas about Austin restaurants, which I take issue with, because I don't know what information he has. | ||
| And the other being... | ||
| That his audience has tripled in the last year. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| Because of Russian bots. | ||
| It's the same period of time since the Russian influence campaign has started. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I would say he's even lying about that. | ||
| I think his audience has only doubled. | ||
| Like, the Russians wouldn't even have the gall to triple his audience. | ||
| I'm willing to go with the triple. | ||
| Let's just go with the triple. | ||
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Okay. | |
| For simplicity's sake. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Since the time that the influence campaign started in the summer, early summer of 2015. | ||
| Of rage. | ||
| His audience has tripled, and there's no more money coming in. | ||
| And that he takes to mean... | ||
| The economy is a disaster. | ||
| No one has any more money to give me. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that is what he's basing this economic collapse on. | ||
| It's like all the indicators say that the economy is stabilizing or doing better. | ||
| But I have tons of viewers and no one's giving me money. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| That's the only thing he has to go on for this entire episode is just all this, like, fuck you. | ||
| There's going to be cannibals 15 days from now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because... | ||
| So congratulations, Alex. | ||
| You unfortunately proved you are not a Russian agent by virtue of the fact that you are influenced by Russian agents. | ||
| He is 100%. | ||
| Being bolstered by fake accounts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| His traffic is being inflated artificially, and obviously it's by these Russian people who would... | ||
| I mean, go listen to any of our other episodes where he just spits Russian narratives about Syria, about anything. | ||
| Like, it's just... | ||
| He is a Russian propagandist without being Russian. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so obviously they would want to bolster his position, his prominence, and so they do that. | ||
| And it's clear. | ||
| It's clear that that is where he is, like... | ||
| Indisputable. | ||
| But here are the two things I want to end this episode with. | ||
| The first thing is the intensity with which he thought that the economy was collapsing at the beginning of 2016 that led him to be, we must support Trump or die, is largely based on a misunderstanding that he has of his own numbers. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I think that there's a chance... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| This is fucked up, because you and I go through this thing over and over again, where I'm like, there's a chance Alex could have saved himself. | ||
| And you're like, no, he couldn't. | ||
| Yep, nope. | ||
| I believe that there's a possibility, had the Russian bots not been inflating his traffic, to think that he's becoming one of the most popular things in the world, there's a chance that Alex could have been moderate in his support of Trump. | ||
| He could have been like... | ||
| But you can't prove a negative. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| We get right back into it. | ||
| But I think there's a chance... | ||
| Because at this time, even in January, he's still... | ||
| You know, his toe is in the water with Cruz. | ||
| His toe is in the water with Rand Paul. | ||
| He wishes he was more of an asshole. | ||
| Yeah, but you're saying that he's just going to be a monster in a different way. | ||
| He's a monster because he's been duped. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's a different monster. | ||
| I'm not trying to save him. | ||
| I'm not trying to save him. | ||
| He's a fucking asshole and a racist no matter how you slice it. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Undoubtedly. | ||
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Right. | |
| But I think in terms of the interest for history, what he has done, the way he, as a rocket-propelled entity, supporting Trump to the point of being like, we will die if we don't support him. | ||
| I think without that tripling of his audience, he wouldn't have been confused. | ||
| Like, the economy is a disaster. | ||
| I have so many people listening, and they're all buying my own products. | ||
| I think... | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I wish for a better world. | ||
| Fuck you, Dan! | ||
| That shit ain't coming! | ||
| Summer rage, baby! | ||
| Now, here's my punchline. | ||
| And this is from... | ||
| December 5th, 2017. | ||
| And this relates to the knowledge that we clearly have that Alex Jones' audience numbers were supported and inflated by Russian bots. | ||
| Now keep in mind, in March of 2017, Adam Schiff suggested that Alex Jones was working for Russia. | ||
| And he got really drunk on air and called him a cocksucker and said, I'll beat your ass, you son of a bitch, fill your hand, that sort of shit. | ||
| Which, again, fill your hand, great. | ||
| Here's what Alex said on the 5th. | ||
| And now their whole Russian investigation, as we knew, is a fraud. | ||
| I mean, they're calling me a Russian agent and saying they have proof but never showing it. | ||
| I mean, it's just like telling me, again, I'm a space alien. | ||
| I don't even know I am one. | ||
| I mean, if I am one, I didn't know it. | ||
| That's pathetic. | ||
| There you are. | ||
| If I was one, I didn't know it. | ||
| I didn't know it. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Please hide behind that mask, Alex. | ||
| It'll probably keep you from being prosecuted. | ||
| That's called plausible deniability. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what that is. | ||
| That's for someone who before was like, I'll beat your ass for saying I had anything to do with Rush. | ||
| If I did, I didn't know it. | ||
| I didn't know. | ||
| And he probably didn't. | ||
| Why would you tell him? | ||
| If you tell him, he's going to tell everybody. | ||
| Yeah, he's going to blab. | ||
| No, yeah, of course not. | ||
| So, congratulations, Alex. | ||
| I think you are very clearly the shittiest pawn, the dumbest pawn in a dumb, dumb game that took only... | ||
| One that's going to kill us all. | ||
| Oh, yeah, certainly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But your part in it... | ||
| Wow. | ||
| All it took was listening to you to unravel. | ||
| You know, it's one of those things where it's like... | ||
| I kind of want it to get bad enough to where it affects him to the point where he has to say he's wrong. | ||
| I almost want to be in a homeless shelter next to Alex Jones, just so I can hear him be like, yeah, I was lying. | ||
| I got taken in. | ||
| I don't know if he'll ever say that, but I think he will end up having to get... | ||
| You know, get right with God to some extent. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, I don't mean God literally, but, like, the things that are coming down the pipe in terms of the investigation that Mueller is doing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In terms of... | ||
| I mean, look, in the last two weeks or so, we've had two people be indicted. | ||
| One of them flipped. | ||
| We've had strong indications that everyone's lying about everything. | ||
| It's all a total mess, and it's going to get unwound eventually. | ||
| The reason it seems like a total mess is because there's information that the public doesn't have, that the investigators do have. | ||
| And when that information becomes public, a lot of it will become much more clear. | ||
| If it becomes public. | ||
| I think it will. | ||
| And I think Alex Jones recognizes that... | ||
| Shit. | ||
| In March, when he was mad and screaming, I will beat your ass if you call me a Russian, he didn't have an awareness that, fuck, I was probably a part of this. | ||
| And now, I think he realizes, like, based on that sentence, very clearly him saying, if I was a space alien, I didn't know it. | ||
| A space alien is obviously facsimile for a Russian agent. | ||
| He would never have said that six months ago. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think what's going to happen is he's going to have to create a new layer of bullshit around himself. | ||
| And, I mean, we'll see what that is, but I don't think he'll ever say he's wrong. | ||
| Doubtful. | ||
| Anyway, if you like our show... | ||
| That was an ad pivot right there, my friend. | ||
| It's not an ad pivot. | ||
| It's a getting out of here pivot. | ||
| You gotta get out. | ||
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It's a get the fuck. | |
| I gotta go. | ||
| You can check out our website, knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yeah, we write stuff. | ||
| Dan put up three fucking articles in a row. | ||
| I generally try to do three a day. | ||
| Fuck you for being prolific. | ||
| I generally try and write three a day based on the show of the day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sometimes Alex is... | ||
| Shitty. | ||
| Bored. | ||
| So I got nothing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And sometimes I just get too busy. | ||
| But I try to... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I realize that, like... | ||
| Look, I love you, Media Matters. | ||
| I love you, Right Wing Watch. | ||
| You're trying, but you're not doing the right job. | ||
| And who can? | ||
| I can. | ||
| Hire us. | ||
| So I'm trying. | ||
| I'm trying to just do it myself. | ||
| Hi, Russ. | ||
| It's a pay-it-forward kind of shit. | ||
| I'm just doing it. | ||
| But yeah, knowledgefight.com. | ||
| There's all kinds of shit. | ||
| You can follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Don't talk about what I write. | ||
| We're on Facebook. | ||
| Don't ever do it. | ||
| It's garbage. | ||
| We're on Facebook. | ||
| You can go to iTunes. | ||
| You can download our podcast. | ||
| You can subscribe. | ||
| You can leave a review. | ||
| Please tell your friends. | ||
| We need the help. | ||
| Please. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Spread the word, each one teach one, and what have you. | ||
| But, hey, I got to piss, so I don't care for the games. | ||
| John Rappaport can go fuck himself. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. |