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Dec. 1, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#108: November 30, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on the November 17th episode of The Alex Jones Show. This episode marks the first time we know of that Alex ends his show on a cliffhanger, but definitely not the first time he's spewed intensely ahistorical racist theories or used absurd arguments to defend horrible men.

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alex jones
18:47
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dan friesen
01:08:39
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jordan holmes
44:34
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages.
In this case, Gumball Head.
jordan holmes
Delicious beer.
dan friesen
And talk about Alex Jones.
How you doing?
jordan holmes
I am doing...
dan friesen
New way to start the show.
jordan holmes
What is that?
dan friesen
Friendliness.
jordan holmes
Asking me how I'm doing?
dan friesen
It's a new era.
jordan holmes
Is this...
dan friesen
Have we...
Conversation.
jordan holmes
Have we grown as people?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
I'm doing quite well, Dan.
dan friesen
Thank you very much.
jordan holmes
And yourself?
dan friesen
Thank you.
I'm great.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
We're going to end this podcast now.
That was weird.
dan friesen
Well, before we do, I have a lot of knowledge about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
And I don't know.
Anything about Alex?
dan friesen
Perfect.
jordan holmes
There it is.
The bit still occurs.
dan friesen
Yes, it does.
So, today, guys, we are going to be in the present today.
jordan holmes
Boo!
dan friesen
Yeah, that sucks.
We're going to be going over the episode from November 30th, 2017, Thursday, if you're nasty.
And, you know, some stuff happens.
It's wild.
But before we get into it, I want to tell you...
jordan holmes
Your enthusiasm is flagging.
dan friesen
No, there's...
jordan holmes
You know.
Some shit happens.
It's Alex Jones.
It's the show we do.
dan friesen
I can't, I can't.
jordan holmes
Come on, man.
dan friesen
I can't explain.
jordan holmes
Put a little mystery into it.
Give the people what they want.
We gotta have some fucking flames.
We gotta do something amazing.
dan friesen
There's some crazy shit that happens on this show.
unidentified
See, there we go!
dan friesen
All right.
All right.
jordan holmes
Now we're a successful show, Dan.
dan friesen
We define success on our own terms.
jordan holmes
That's exactly how everybody who's successful does it.
dan friesen
And homeless people.
True.
Before we get into today's episode, first of all, I'd like to give a shout-out to a new foreign policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
We're finally doing shout-outs to new policy wonks.
dan friesen
Well, we did on the last episode, too.
jordan holmes
That was so long ago.
dan friesen
We like to just chat.
And so it's difficult to interrupt our flow in order to...
To thank the people who are so kind to support the show.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
But I'd like to give a special thank you out to a new foreign policy wonk.
Sonia from Sweden, thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Sonia from Sweden!
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Thank you so much for joining up on the foreign policy level.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Sonia.
dan friesen
If you'd like to become a policy wonk, you can do so by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the support the show button, and then you're a policy wonk.
It's that simple.
jordan holmes
Please do.
dan friesen
Also, before we start the show...
jordan holmes
No, you actually have to...
If you want to become a policy wonk, you click support the show.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
If you want to become a foreign policy wonk, you click support the show.
And then you have to reconsider all of your life decisions up to that point.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then inexplicably you choose, you know what, the one that I...
I mistook was not giving enough money to this dumb podcast about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
God bless people.
jordan holmes
Then you press support the show again.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Then you become a foreign policy woman.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Now, how do you become a globalist?
dan friesen
It's vague.
jordan holmes
I'll be goddamned if I know.
dan friesen
We don't really know exactly.
jordan holmes
But Sonia is on her way.
She's very much so.
So if anybody would like to become a globalist.
dan friesen
She's a spiritual globalist.
jordan holmes
Follow Sonia and follow us.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So before we get to today's episode.
Covering the 30th.
I want to tell you a little bit about what happened the other day on the show.
There was an amazing comedy.
unidentified
Accidentally.
jordan holmes
Well, that would be the only way it happens.
dan friesen
So, Alex, for the entire beginning of the show, for about the first hour, he's saying that, like, alright, I got some big news out of Disney.
jordan holmes
Which means he has nothing to say.
dan friesen
It's gonna blow everything out of the water.
jordan holmes
Which means there's nothing.
dan friesen
And then he keeps teasing it.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
He keeps doing it like, we're gonna get into it next hour.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so the second hour rolls around, and he's like, I just don't...
I don't think I'm going to get into this news.
I just don't know how to do it.
I just don't know how to do this job.
It's so huge.
These are demons.
And he does like a ten minute ramble through screaming about demons.
They know they're doing it.
They absolutely know.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
The demons!
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Who know what they're doing.
dan friesen
So at the end of the second hour or so, he finally gets to it.
I would like for you to guess what the big news out of Disney is that proves everything that Alex Jones has been saying is correct.
jordan holmes
Coco was a hit!
Pixar delivered again!
dan friesen
I bet it is pretty good.
jordan holmes
I've heard nothing but great things.
I think it's a hit.
That's why I'm talking about it.
dan friesen
Although I famously think that Up was severely overrated.
jordan holmes
Why do you say famously?
Nobody knows this and nobody needs to know this.
dan friesen
Everyone knows.
jordan holmes
Nobody has ever asked.
dan friesen
I've gone on record.
jordan holmes
Nobody's like, you know what?
Two things I know.
Dan.
Hates up.
dan friesen
I didn't hate it.
jordan holmes
And there are literal demons running Disney.
dan friesen
So the big news.
jordan holmes
It better not have anything to do with Star Wars because I want that untainted.
I'm so excited.
dan friesen
Star Wars is in the clear.
jordan holmes
Coming up, episode eight.
Are you shitting me, Dan?
dan friesen
It's not that.
jordan holmes
The Last Jedi?
Come on.
dan friesen
It's not that.
jordan holmes
How many more are left?
dan friesen
It's not that.
So what happened was...
jordan holmes
Daisy Ridley's great, too.
I love Daisy Ridley.
dan friesen
She's not...
I'm looking in the chat.
jordan holmes
The dude from Attack the Block?
I'm a huge Attack the Block fan.
dan friesen
I'm looking in the chat room and Oswald Donkey 8 is saying that Up has third act problems.
I would argue it has first act problems.
It has second, first, and third act problems.
jordan holmes
Don't, listen, don't extend a hand to Dan because then Dan will grab that hand and rip it away from you and explain to you why you should never have even had this hand in the first place.
dan friesen
My hand, reaching out to your hand!
The only thing good about Up is Kevin the Bird.
We can all agree on that.
I think we talked about this the other night.
jordan holmes
We did talk about it the other night, which is why I'm still confused.
dan friesen
Don't need to rehash this.
So the big news is that Millie Weaver was out.
Out and about.
Trying to find a book.
Because she has children, so she's buying a children's book.
jordan holmes
Right?
There's no way this story goes anywhere satisfying for anyone.
dan friesen
She finds a book called Feminist Baby.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
It was put out by Disney Books.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So Disney is run by literal demons because one time they put out a book called Feminist Baby.
dan friesen
Feminist Baby!
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
They're trying to indoctrinate your babies.
jordan holmes
Are you sure it's not the sequel to Boss Baby?
dan friesen
No, but I don't know why Alex didn't think that was somehow like...
Trying to corrupt the children.
It's a baby who has to have a job.
It's like, alright, whatever.
jordan holmes
That's actually the socialist stance on Boss Baby.
We can't even get good daycare for children?
They have to run Fortune 500 companies now?
Come on!
dan friesen
My socialist stance on it is it had first, second, and third act problems.
unidentified
Did it?
jordan holmes
My socialist stance on it was a Montessori school goes a long way to keeping your Boss Baby from being...
A real bad boss.
dan friesen
Better than Waldorf education, I'll tell you that much.
I don't know anything about Waldorf education.
jordan holmes
I actually don't know what Waldorf education is.
dan friesen
It's another thing like Montessori.
It's just like a regional thing.
jordan holmes
I don't know what a Montessori school is either.
It's preschool, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, but it's unguided, too.
It celebrates the, like, children get to learn however they want, kind of thing, as I understand.
jordan holmes
Like from that Simpsons episode where Bart is accidentally classified as a genius, and so he goes to the school where he's supposed to...
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's kind of like that, from what I understand.
I don't know 100%, but be that as it may.
jordan holmes
If everybody would name things according to the Simpsons reference that I would understand it with, that would make things so much easier for me.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
It would help.
So...
jordan holmes
Like the immersion effect.
You could just call that the episode where Bart learns to speak French inexplicably.
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
I would be fine with that.
dan friesen
Fine.
So, Millie Weaver finds this book.
jordan holmes
Could you give me the Simpsons reference that will explain this circumstance?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
This is the one when Maggie becomes a feminist.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So she finds this book, and on one of the pages it says, Feminist baby doesn't like pants.
jordan holmes
Why?
Why does it...
Cause a reaction either way!
dan friesen
Well, because, I mean, the reason the page is in there is because babies often do take off their pants or diapers.
Sure.
And pants rhymed with whatever the other page was.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But Alex is like, they're trying to get kids to take their clothes off!
jordan holmes
Of course that's his angle.
I immediately thought it was going to go to a gender place where it was like, See?
Even feminists know women should be wearing dresses.
dan friesen
No, no.
It's all about they're trying to sexualize their kids by taking off their clothes.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
That makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
It's the saddest display I've ever seen.
No.
jordan holmes
He nailed it.
dan friesen
I thought it was really, really bad.
And then he threw it to a special report where Millie Weaver is going over how she found it.
And she's like, I don't know how I can cover this, so I'm going to get some help from Rainbow Snatch.
Rainbow Snatch.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
It's a disaster.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
It's so bad.
It's so bad.
jordan holmes
She does the throw to Superman, is what she does.
Did she jump into a telephone booth and quickly get on Rainbow Snatch?
dan friesen
No style points.
jordan holmes
No style points.
dan friesen
Just Rainbow Snatch in a wig, sitting around, reading the book.
It's atrocious.
jordan holmes
Because the real story would be like, So, oh my god, I can't breathe.
I went to a bookstore, which first off, where do those come from?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I mean, even like Bright Borders?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I walked into there, and then a Scooby-Doo villain took his mask off, and I went into a bookstore, and I went into the children's section, which I still don't think they should know how to read.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That should be against the law.
dan friesen
No, it's like the fruit of the tree of knowledge.
You don't want to give kids books.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Which God gave us, but not on purpose.
dan friesen
Right.
Don't use it.
It's there.
jordan holmes
Don't use it.
Yeah.
dan friesen
You should use race memory.
jordan holmes
And then I was going through this book, and I read it, and then I bought it.
dan friesen
Well, she did buy it.
jordan holmes
And then I took it home, and then I read it again, and then Alex called me and said, I've got nothing for this show.
dan friesen
We've got to fill time.
jordan holmes
We've got to do a report on this.
Dress up like Millie Weaver or whatever.
I don't know.
Do you think?
No, actually, I'm going to go the opposite direction.
Millie Weaver.
Is the secret identity.
dan friesen
It's possible.
It's entirely possible.
jordan holmes
In her regular life, she's Rainbow Snatch.
dan friesen
It was a disaster, and it made me laugh very hard.
And on the same episode, Alex, he does his defense of Trump's Pocahontas comment.
jordan holmes
Why?
There's no defense!
dan friesen
He's like, ah, it's a good joke.
jordan holmes
That's his defense!
I mean, yeah!
The defense is literally...
The only defense that I could come up with, because whenever the news came out and I was going through all this stuff and I was like, is this a naked gun sketch?
Crazy.
That's the defense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Look at how hilarious it is that this bumbling oaf would go to the Navajo Windtalkers Association and make a racist joke!
That's fucking hilarious!
dan friesen
It's a little bit...
jordan holmes
It's so funny.
dan friesen
It's through the looking glass, certainly.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
But, like, the funny thing was that he plays the video of it, and he's talking over it, and he's like...
Look at those guys.
They love it.
He's just like, those old guys, they were war veterans.
They get it.
They like a good bit of dirty humor.
jordan holmes
If it actually was Rainbow Snatch doing that entire thing word for word, that'd be a great bit.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It'd be hilarious.
Instead, it's our orange dumbass president, which makes it less fun.
Still very funny.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That was a couple days ago, and shockingly, I mean, the Pocahontas thing is, he's just...
He's defended it, and we can move along.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But you would think that based on how much...
jordan holmes
Throw it in the racist bin.
dan friesen
Sure.
You would think, though, with the amount of buildup he did on the feminist baby business...
jordan holmes
It would be lasting for months.
dan friesen
He doesn't bring it up again.
I think he realized this shit was weak as he got into it, so he's got to jump around to some new narratives that we'll get into today.
But also, I want to say, this episode, I've been listening to Alex Jones for a year straight now.
And I have never heard an episode end on a cliffhanger.
jordan holmes
There's a cliffhanger ending?
dan friesen
This episode has...
jordan holmes
He's taking the dip into serialized radio?
dan friesen
He's definitely getting me to come back tomorrow.
I want to find out what happens.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
It's pretty crazy, and we'll get to that.
jordan holmes
Looks like we're doing a special episode.
dan friesen
Indeed.
So the episode starts, though, with...
I mean, we've had some more powerful men who have been...
Been accused of sexual harassment.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's been a solid cull recently.
I'm liking it.
dan friesen
Boring-ass Garrison Keillor.
jordan holmes
Matt Lauer is apparently a sex dungeon freak.
dan friesen
With an automatic lock button on his desk.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fucked up!
dan friesen
It's pretty wild.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, those things have come out.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And interestingly, Alex has a strange take, specifically on Garrison Keillor and on Matt Lauer.
Very weird take.
jordan holmes
Okay, is this gonna get into personal and professional jealousy territory?
dan friesen
No, not really.
It's sort of a conspiracy, though, and it's...
jordan holmes
I'm waiting for a, uh, Garrison Keillor's just trying to do what I'm doing, but with a shittier voice.
Like, that's my imagination of what his take is.
dan friesen
He thinks he's folksy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I've been to, like, Wobegon.
The women aren't strong, but the men are good-looking.
And the children are above average.
jordan holmes
I fucked all kinds of women.
Punk women, Lake Wobegon women.
I fucked them all!
Before I was 16. Before I was even 16!
dan friesen
So here's Alex's very strange take.
alex jones
Easily influenced, hype-driven people are the only ones that still buy into mainstream.
And that is a minority of people who tend to be mainly white, hate themselves liberals.
And that whole system is...
On the verge of collapsing.
That's why all the Prairie Home Companion guy and Matt Lauer and the other Charlie Rose, they're all people with big fat contracts that everybody wants to shove overboard because the system's collapsing.
There isn't any money anymore.
There aren't viewers and listeners anymore.
They're all going bankrupt.
So they're throwing the golden calves, the alters.
The idols overboard because it doesn't work anymore.
They built these edifices up.
They built these so-called stars up to make the public buy into whatever they said, and because it isn't selling, because it isn't working, and they're not getting ratings, and they're not getting influence, they're throwing them overboard.
dan friesen
Okay.
Yeah?
jordan holmes
Maybe my favorite take on this entire situation I've ever heard.
dan friesen
It's interesting.
jordan holmes
His conspiracy theory is...
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All of these guys...
And this is true.
Everybody's known they've been sexual harassers.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
They've been protected.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
But the...
The companies now are like, ooh, there's this wave of people getting rid of these guys.
Oh, we can get out of the contract.
Are you saying I'm going to save $25 million on Matt Lauer this year?
Yeah, sexual harassment's bad.
Let's get these fuckers out of here.
Let's get some bargain basement sexual harassers in here because they can do just as good of a job.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
Hey, Crash Blade, how's it going?
We do read the chat.
You know, I don't try to answer.
You know, unrelated questions, but I will tell you my favorite soda is Cranberry Splash Sierra Mist.
That seasonal Sierra Mist that comes out.
jordan holmes
You just went TRL.
You just went TRL.
We're going to read some tweets from the fans right now.
dan friesen
Just trying to be courteous.
jordan holmes
I understand that, but we're professionals.
We're trying to run a show about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Indeed.
Anyway, I think it's even weirder.
I think it's even weirder.
jordan holmes
Also, you didn't ask me what my favorite soda was?
dan friesen
What's your favorite soda?
That's why I didn't ask you.
jordan holmes
Cherry cola.
It's a cherry cola.
It's a regular Coca-Cola with some real cherries into it.
It's very good.
dan friesen
Oh, come on.
jordan holmes
It's delicious.
dan friesen
So I think it's even weirder.
I think that Alex is pretending that there is no awareness that these people are sexual harassers, and it's just a thing where it's like, the media is falling apart.
No one's watching these shows anymore.
We've got to get out of contracts, and so we are just going to...
Throw them in off the bus or whatever.
I think that's what he thinks.
jordan holmes
So that covers his ass on multiple levels because then he can say all of the accusers, not just those guys, but then by association, all accusers everywhere are lying in order to make sure that these powerful people get their contract money back.
So every sexual harassment accuser is a false flag.
dan friesen
Well, he kind of believes that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, not all, but he kind of...
He's kind of in that camp.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Most are fake.
jordan holmes
I get that.
dan friesen
I mean, it's an incredibly...
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't get that, but I...
dan friesen
It's an incredibly fucked up version of the narrative because a very...
I got much simpler explanation is these powerful dudes think they can do anything and they fucking sexually harass people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
A very simple explanation is when dudes get too much power, they abuse it.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Problem solved.
You know that thing that we've known for always?
You know that thing, that aphorism from way, way back?
dan friesen
Absolute power is pretty cool.
jordan holmes
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
You know how we know that?
I am amazed how surprised most people are to find out that it's true.
dan friesen
Also, shout out to the chat room.
Root beer sucks.
Anyway, let's get to this next clip.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, we...
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Vote for your top five music videos of this week, too.
dan friesen
It's NSYNC coming in at number one.
Weirdly, Korn at number two.
What are you doing?
jordan holmes
Inexplicably, Link Biscuits back for the next five years.
unidentified
Shit.
dan friesen
Gold Cobra.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
Not like what I'm seeing here.
Anyway, let's get back into this.
So, Trump the other day.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He started his morning.
Real early by retweeting some videos of alleged attacks by Muslims.
jordan holmes
Naked gun level insanity.
dan friesen
From Britain First, an organization that we'll get into here in a little bit.
And so in response to this, Paul Joseph Watson even tweeted, Hey, whoever's running the president's social media needs to be a little more careful.
So Paul Joseph Watson even...
jordan holmes
Joseph Watson, race baiter extraordinaire.
Absolutely.
The man who has made his career out of saying, look at what these Muslims are going to fuck up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's like, hey, whoa.
dan friesen
Well, because he knows what Britain First is.
He knows their history better than, say...
Trump.
And so he's like, you're going to not want to be associated with him, which is smart.
But then at the same time, in that tweet, he was saying that the person who runs the president's social media, so he's even trying to get Trump off the hook for doing it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
And it's really, it is interesting to me, the division that you see there, with him being like...
I mean, he's not saying that the content was bad.
It's just the source of it being associated with it.
So it's still Weasley.
jordan holmes
Well, the problem there is the only person dumb enough holding Trump's Twitter account to do that is Trump.
Like, that is the best forensic evidence for it being Trump personally, is everybody with any level of expertise would go, oh, no, no, no, that's a bad idea.
Only the dumbest man in the White House would ever do that.
And it turns out that's the president.
dan friesen
Let me be clear also.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because the chat room is clowning.
jordan holmes
You are not thinking this is reasonable.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
BJW is not reasonable.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
We are not condoning BJW.
dan friesen
No.
It's just interesting to me that on some level he understands that there's a line.
Or at least a line of association that you should not cross.
unidentified
In Britain.
dan friesen
That's interesting to me because he's associated with Fucking Infowars.
jordan holmes
No, in Britain, here's the thing.
In Britain, they have UKIP.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Which is a party built entirely around racism.
dan friesen
More or less.
jordan holmes
Everyone knows UKIP is a party built entirely around racism.
And in the larger context of Britain, they're like, we're going to let you guys be.
Even UKIP looks at Britain first and goes, whoa, we can't be having this shit.
That's how far right they are.
UKIP, I want to kill black people.
UKIP is like, whoa, guys, you are crazy.
dan friesen
But it still comes down to, to some extent, optics.
That's still really the issue that people have.
It's not the content that Paul Joseph Watson or UKIP would complain about.
It's those guys.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're making us look bad.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
You're making us white nationalists look like those white nationalists.
dan friesen
And that's pretty fucked up.
That's pretty fucked up.
But what's even more fucked up is Alex's take on Paul Jones's tweet.
jordan holmes
There can't be Alex's take.
dan friesen
He has a take on the tweet.
jordan holmes
He has a take on the tweet about the tweet?
dan friesen
Yes.
unidentified
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
Kill us all.
alex jones
I rarely disagree with Paul Watson, and I don't really disagree with him here, but I called him last night.
Paul just said, hey, this national group has some problems in the UK.
Trump ought to look where he tweets these videos because you can find other sources with one other political baggage.
The media spun that like we'd all turned against Trump, and Trump's bad.
In fact, in one article it says, the white supremacist, Paul Watson.
dan friesen
First of all, that's fair.
jordan holmes
He is.
dan friesen
But then also, it's interesting that Alex is like, they're all pretending that you've turned on Trump.
Like, Paul Joseph Watson has...
Multiple times said, I'm going to turn on Trump if he does X and then Trump does X. Right.
Or Paul Joseph Watson has literally said, I'm off the Trump train.
Right.
He's been very waffly in the past.
jordan holmes
But they didn't get media attention for that, really.
dan friesen
Yeah, a little bit.
jordan holmes
They got a little bit.
They got a little bit of that.
dan friesen
Not as much as when Paul Joseph Watson pretended to eat books.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Because it's too easy to clown on him for that stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, let's get through the rest of this clip.
alex jones
Who always bleats about Western civilization.
It even went too far for him.
See?
They slander Paul.
They slander the president.
They defame everybody while they're the ones hyping up the cultural takeover of the West and the ones pushing all this.
Paul wasn't mad at Trump.
He was just simply saying that group's got some baggage and the president might want to tweet from other sources.
But again, they all leapt on it in literally hundreds of publications.
National News last night had his tweet, look, even Alex Jones and even Paul Watson, the white supremacist, they actually said that.
jordan holmes
You are.
alex jones
See what Hathaway going along with him gets you?
jordan holmes
Supremacy.
alex jones
More lies.
They take that as weakness.
They've even turned against Trump.
Everyone's turning against him.
Again, more fake news, more hype, more lies.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Nobody's really saying that you're turning against Trump.
dan friesen
Well, no.
jordan holmes
What we're really saying is, look at how dumb this guy is.
Even dumb people are like, that's dumb.
dan friesen
Even people who are like, spiritually and philosophically further down the fucked up rabbit hole are like, this is not good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So the other thing that I think...
jordan holmes
Here's how bad it is.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
The media halfway defended Trump when he wouldn't condemn Charlottesville murder.
dan friesen
Good people.
jordan holmes
Good people.
dan friesen
On both sides.
jordan holmes
Now, fucking Alex Jones was like, that's probably somebody else.
That's evil.
You can't look.
Even if you don't want to condemn them, do it.
dan friesen
All white racism is the feds.
jordan holmes
Right.
That blew over.
How bad is this?
Even Alex Jones has to be like, whoa, guys, why are you talking bad about Trump on this one?
I can't even see anything wrong here.
dan friesen
He says as much.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, we have another clip here in a minute where he's like, I've looked into this.
It's not bad.
You didn't look into anything.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Speaking of another thing he didn't look into.
unidentified
All of the things?
dan friesen
One of the big stories that Alex is railing on today is about, I believe, in Libya, there was a video that came out of people being sold into slavery, like slave blocks, and what have you.
And he's making a really big deal out of it.
And to be fair, the global slave trade is a big deal.
jordan holmes
It's a huge deal.
dan friesen
But the way he presents it is...
jordan holmes
Even in the States, I think the estimation is there are like 35...
A million slaves, ultimately, in the country?
dan friesen
Yeah.
And, you know, it's a massive problem that a lot of organizations are doing a good job to try and address, but there's systemic issues.
Anyway, Alex says some really stupid shit about slavery here in this next clip.
alex jones
Anybody can go to an online encyclopedia.
Anybody can go buy a Koran in English, your local bookstore.
I suggest you do it.
I've done it.
And it says that if someone is not a Muslim, you can put them into slavery.
And it says that black people, uses racial slur, are not really human.
dan friesen
He's trying to pretend that they have the N-word in the Quran.
jordan holmes
Is he talking about Mormonism?
dan friesen
No, that's certainly in there.
jordan holmes
Because that's in there, like word for word.
alex jones
And so, under Islam, you can enslave them and use them.
And, of course, it was the Arab slave trade that created slavery in Africa and that then the West adopted their view on the biblical interpretations out of the Old Testament, saying that the mark of Cain and the rest of it was on black people.
And so the transatlantic slave trade got picked up kind of after the end of the Crusades a few hundred years later when they took control of the Atlantic slave trade from the Muslims who had control in the Mediterranean.
And so the Muslims Where did you get that bullshit from?
dan friesen
None of that's true.
jordan holmes
It's not even close to me!
unidentified
It doesn't even make timeline sense!
jordan holmes
That's fucking insane!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's insane!
dan friesen
So get to your point, and then I have a point to make as well, because you were chomping at the bit there.
jordan holmes
My point is, all of the stuff is wrong.
dan friesen
It's true.
jordan holmes
It's a fair point.
What's amazing about that is he started off wrong.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then he was like, I'm pretty sure that's wrong.
But what if I go here and that was wrong?
And then it got wronger.
And then somehow it got wronger still.
And usually in this situation...
dan friesen
It's a fascinating level of wrong.
jordan holmes
What happens in this situation, though, is generally Alex will somehow spiral into the correct territory.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, historically, he'll go...
dan friesen
I'm not willing to go with you on that.
jordan holmes
No, let me try and explain this further, right?
Historically, eventually, he gets to, like...
This is actual history.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
He did mention that the Crusades happened a couple hundred years before this stuff, and that's kind of true.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So he at least has one...
jordan holmes
But he was still wrong about that.
And he really went hard on the wrong.
dan friesen
From start to finish.
The Arab slave trade was pretty massive.
jordan holmes
He might as well have ended with, like, and then after World War II we discovered Atlantis.
He would say that.
Yeah, it's where it might as well.
Good point.
dan friesen
The Arab slave trade was pretty massive around Europe and the Iberian Peninsula from the time of like 700 A.D. to, you know, into the 1300s and what have you.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But there's an interesting thing that needs to be taken into account, and that is that every culture back then used slavery.
jordan holmes
Don't understand.
dan friesen
Because they found over time that it was much more economically successful for them when they conquered an area to enslave everybody instead of just killing all.
jordan holmes
I can't see how that would work.
dan friesen
They were a very usable group of people that they could do all the work they don't want to do, create leisure for themselves.
jordan holmes
Humans for humans' sake.
dan friesen
It's absolutely universal through cultures.
Greece, the bedrock of Western civilization, was full of slaves.
Rome was full of slaves.
All of it.
It's just continuous.
But then, the thing that we need to really address...
Is that the Arab slave trade didn't evolve into the African and then European slave trade.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
That was a product of Portugal in the mid-1400s.
Portugal, at the time, was an immensely successful nautical culture.
unidentified
Naval power.
dan friesen
They were...
Amazing at shipbuilding.
And one of the things that was the offshoot of that is that they were the first people that were able to get around the Horn of Africa.
They were able to get down there.
And one of the things they did is they created the Slave Coast, which was a large area of countries like Nigeria and a couple others I can't remember.
And they would just go in and they would take a bunch of people.
And I think it was 1442 was when they first started taking people from Africa.
jordan holmes
Do you know who was on those ships, though?
dan friesen
Columbus?
I don't know.
Magellan?
jordan holmes
Muslims.
dan friesen
Oh.
No.
jordan holmes
All Portugals are Muslims.
No, no.
dan friesen
See, that's an interesting thing that you could argue because during the Crusades and the pre-Crusade time...
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
I understand that, Mark.
dan friesen
The Muslims, or at least the Arabs, because it's not...
There's a lot of different groups.
There's a lot of different types of groups.
But they did end up taking a lot of the Iberian Peninsula, whether it be Portugal, Spain, all of that area.
But there was a thing called the Reconquista that happened between...
The 1800s and the 1400s, wherein the white people took back over the Iberian Peninsula.
jordan holmes
Don't understand.
dan friesen
So Portugal...
jordan holmes
Never heard anything like that before.
dan friesen
Portugal in the 1400s was not under Islamic rule.
It was not under Arab rule.
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
dan friesen
Positive.
jordan holmes
I don't think you can be sure.
dan friesen
I'm absolutely positive.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Egypt.
dan friesen
Okay.
Great.
Can't argue with that.
So it's complete nonsense.
It's all retconning history in service of demonizing Muslims.
jordan holmes
He's like Season 7 of Game of Thrones in that all of his dates kind of move around to the point where it doesn't make any sense.
How could they have even gotten there?
No, it doesn't make any sense.
dan friesen
I agree with you in spirit, and I agree with Alex not at all.
So that sucks.
I wish he would...
You know what I've come to realize?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
It's impossible that he's studied anything.
Because we see how slowly he reads on the show.
Because he reads, or he tries to read some things.
jordan holmes
It does not go well.
dan friesen
It's the reading equivalent of hunt and peck on a keyboard.
You know, it's slow typing, slow reading.
jordan holmes
He reads with two fingers on a typewriter.
dan friesen
Metaphorically.
And the idea that he would have ever read, like, just for an example, John P. Holdren's eco-science textbook that he talks about all the time.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's like 1,100 pages and it's a fucking textbook.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's literally no way that his slow ass could read that within the time constraints that he has.
He's got to do his three hours a day of radio, make these dumbass special reports, and apparently he's in charge of the marketing department at InfoWars creating the special.
trying to get all the products out the door, all that stuff.
There's no way he has time to read any of the stuff he says he's reading.
jordan holmes
I posit there is one thing he is good at.
Okay.
unidentified
He's a world-class skimmer.
jordan holmes
Like a world-class skimmer.
dan friesen
It's just a headline.
jordan holmes
I know, but that's my point.
The way that he rambled off that nonsense history so confidently.
dan friesen
He's confident.
jordan holmes
It was like, oh, you've read a book, but you skimmed it.
Like, you got the broad strokes of the book, and he didn't even get that.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
So he's a world-class skimmer.
dan friesen
Well, it's all confidence.
It's sound and fury signifying nothing.
It's just brash bullshit.
jordan holmes
He jerked off with the cliff notes of history and thought that that meant he learned it.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
And that leads us to this next clip, because, you know, in this clip he's going to claim that he's looked into Britain first.
And he has not.
jordan holmes
No, he has not.
alex jones
President Donald Trump...
Retweeted three videos posted by Christian activist Jada Frazin, and now she is appealing to him for assistance as she faces prison time for hate speech charges.
Christian activist arrested after speaking out against Sharia in Ireland.
She's the Christian nationalist and leading figure in the Britain First Party that's been totally demonized and sees the opportunity to highlight her penchant.
And issued a plea to President Trump to intercede on her behalf before she is sent to jail for the two years of convicted for speaking out against Islam in the anti-terrorism rally in Belfast, Ireland.
So you can say what you want about this group there in England that the media demonizes that I haven't really found any serious issues with.
People can try to act like they're extremists and hope the establishment won't call for your arrest.
But I'll assure you, you'll be next.
dan friesen
So he's again trying to trigger that first they came for the blanks.
jordan holmes
How many euphemisms did we catch in there?
dan friesen
I think you caught a lot.
You were scribbling.
jordan holmes
I was scribbling real hard.
Christian nationalist is maybe the best euphemism that I've heard him say.
Because once again, let's just break down Christian nationalist.
dan friesen
Please.
jordan holmes
It's very simple.
White.
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, that's code.
jordan holmes
Full stop.
dan friesen
That's code.
jordan holmes
Full stop.
Christian Nationalists?
Come on.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Name a Christian Nationalist.
When you close your eyes and think of Christian Nationalists, Dan, what do you see?
dan friesen
Billy Graham.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That Jim Baker.
I don't know.
Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Is it anybody black?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Anybody brown?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Anybody?
dan friesen
Not women either.
jordan holmes
Anybody?
No, no women.
unidentified
Definitely not.
dan friesen
Well, I guess this lady.
jordan holmes
Tammy Faye.
unidentified
Tammy Faye Baker, maybe then.
dan friesen
She's dead.
jordan holmes
So she can't hurt us anymore.
dan friesen
But she also turned against Jim Baker.
jordan holmes
She did there at the end.
dan friesen
Because he's a monster and then went to prison.
jordan holmes
Turns out.
dan friesen
But I guess this Jada Franzen, which is too close to my last name for comfort.
jordan holmes
Speaking out against Islam.
That's a great euphemism.
dan friesen
What they did is they were charged with religiously aggravated harassment.
jordan holmes
It was an anti-terrorist rally, Dan.
We got a lot of euphemisms in there.
We got a lot of coded language.
dan friesen
So, a couple of things.
The Britain First Party is notorious for putting out propaganda and fake bullshit about Muslims.
jordan holmes
In the same way, ISIS is notorious for putting out propaganda about white people.
dan friesen
Well, they'll post all kinds of misleading shit about people celebrating a soccer win and just shot manipulatively to make it look like Muslims are rioting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they put that one out like three times at least, if I recall.
dan friesen
And Paul Joseph Watson plays the same game when he has, like, fireworks displays, and he's like, the city is under attack and stuff like that.
They play on people's ignorance like that incredibly.
jordan holmes
That's going to Al Capone you, man.
That's the tax evasion of racism is what that is.
dan friesen
Yeah, so they got in trouble with the Advertising Standards Authority in Britain, and they had to take all their shit off because the use of the crown symbol...
Would imply that they were selling merchandise that was British made under the government and what have you.
So that's just fun.
jordan holmes
That's one of those things where it is like, okay, both parties are dumb here.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You should be able to put the crown on some shit.
dan friesen
I don't really care.
That's not important.
But what is important is these three retweets that Trump did of these videos.
Is it important?
jordan holmes
I kind of think it's not.
I'm going to go with it's the least important thing ever.
dan friesen
Yeah, so one of them is a Muslim titled Muslim Migrant Beats Up Dutch Boy on Crotches.
It's a fake video.
It was created by a website called Dumpert.
The second one, Muslim Destroys a Statue of the Virgin Mary, is real, but it was of a cleric who's affiliated with the Al-Nusra Front, and it was from the Syrian Civil War, so it's not current or anything.
The other one, the video Islamist Mob Pushes Teenage Boy Off Roof and Beats Him to Death, was actually of a young cleric and critic of Mohammed Morsi beaten up in 2013 amidst the unrest of Morsi's overthrow.
So they're not really...
Like, they're presenting it the same way.
jordan holmes
That was during the Arab Spring.
dan friesen
Yeah, and they're presenting it the same way Alex presents all this bullshit about the knockout game and what have you.
And it's like, he's acting like it's...
Random attacks.
Yeah.
And one of them's fake.
Legit fake.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And the other two are one in the middle of a civil war.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And the other was in the middle of an overthrow.
And the person who was the victim of it was a critic of the deposed government.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All Muslims.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so, you know, the term fake news is toothless and meaningless.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But in this case, the three videos that were retweeted were propaganda.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
We're propaganda in service of only demonizing all Muslims.
jordan holmes
Here's my take on this.
Okay.
This does not matter.
dan friesen
It does.
jordan holmes
I'm not even going to...
Look, this is not...
dan friesen
The president's role in it does.
jordan holmes
This is not fake news.
This is not news.
Here's the point, okay?
What did we learn from Trump's tweet?
dan friesen
Well, we already knew that he was a violent Islamophobe.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So I guess we didn't learn that.
jordan holmes
Okay, what else did we learn?
dan friesen
We learned that he's dumb, but we already knew that, too.
I don't know.
I guess not much.
jordan holmes
You have actually written down the first two on the things that I have written.
Or you said the first two on the things that I wrote down as the things we already knew.
dan friesen
What's the third?
jordan holmes
The third is Trump is chaos.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
All of this stuff.
Doesn't this all fit?
In line with everything we already know about Trump?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This isn't news.
dan friesen
No, that's true.
jordan holmes
It's nothing.
dan friesen
But it's something to add on the wall.
jordan holmes
It's your racist grandpa pointing out, saying, like, three million immigrants, illegal immigrants voted.
dan friesen
Things that are not news become news when the president's doing them, and they're bigoted.
jordan holmes
Again.
dan friesen
That's important.
It's not new, but it's adding wood on the pile.
jordan holmes
This is when we get back to my theory that there is no Trump stories.
There's one Trump story, and that's if you are writing a Trump story, it should be impeach the president, impeach the president, impeach the president, impeach the president.
That's what it should be.
There's no point in writing a Trump does blank story.
dan friesen
No, that's probably true.
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Except to make Theresa May look like a giant pussy.
dan friesen
Well, she came out and said, don't do that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And what does she...
What does everybody in Britain call for?
They say, you should revoke his ability to visit us.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And you should denounce him.
And she was like, hold on, guys.
dan friesen
Maybe Corbin will do that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
Anyway, this next clip.
We haven't had a lot of Russia talk lately.
Alex has not been super on the let's discuss Russia tip.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But...
He drops this little chestnut in as he's going through the day's news breakdown.
alex jones
Before election, Putin offers $8.6 billion to Russians to have more babies.
Here the left is saying, if you're white especially, don't have more babies.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
Interesting.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's a weird policy.
dan friesen
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
Just on Russia's front.
dan friesen
Well, the implication that he's making is that Putin is paying white people to have children.
And it goes back to that birth rate narrative that he always has.
jordan holmes
Which makes it a weird policy.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is that their...
Do you think Alex saw that and was like, oh, that's a solution to white people not reproducing?
dan friesen
No, no.
Alex absolutely thinks that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, no, that's not...
jordan holmes
That's an interesting...
dan friesen
I think he's said as much already.
jordan holmes
See, now that's an interesting thought, just on a purely academic level.
All right?
Can you pay people to become the majority again?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's a really interesting policy idea.
dan friesen
And it would take the generation, too.
There would be a delay in it.
I don't know.
It's stupid.
But it's just another way of him, like, he complains about birth rate stuff.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he's using Putin as an example of someone who's doing it right, and the left doesn't want white people having babies.
jordan holmes
They won't even pay us to have babies.
dan friesen
I mean, it just goes back to the, you know, white identification, white...
jordan holmes
And anything Putin does is the best idea.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, anyway, this next clip.
There's another narrative on the show, and it will end up leading to the cliffhanger.
Okay.
This is the introduction of it.
Okay.
jordan holmes
Alright, this is the sixth season of Breaking Bad is what's going on right here.
dan friesen
Apparently, there's a university somewhere near Austin.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And one of their columnists...
jordan holmes
UT?
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
It's in like San something or other.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
One of their columnists wrote an article about how most of the white people he's ever met in his life have not been great.
jordan holmes
That's a better article than anything the New York Times has put out recently.
dan friesen
Here is Alex Jones being furious about it.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And we'll be back on the other side.
alex jones
And here's a big report up on Infowars.com and Newswars.com from Campus Reform.
Student op-ed calls for white people an abomination.
Student op-ed calls white people an abomination.
When I think of all the white people I've ever encountered, there's perhaps only a dozen of a considered decent.
Texas State University student newspaper on the front published an op-ed Tuesday telling white people that your DNA is an abomination.
This is down in San Marcos.
We should get a physical copy of it.
We have photos of it.
When I think of all the white people I've ever encountered, whether they've been professors, peers, lovers, friends, police officers, etc., there's perhaps only a dozen I would consider decent.
Student columnist Rudy Martinez begins the op-ed, wow, what a racist pig.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
Great.
So what are your thoughts on this?
jordan holmes
I'm trying to think of a dozen white people I know that I would consider decent.
I don't think I can think of even a dozen.
dan friesen
No?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
But that's because my bar for decent goes well beyond anything that a comedian can possibly do.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the thing here...
jordan holmes
If you're a comedian, you're probably a monster.
That's just kind of how we work, right?
dan friesen
I guess so.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this is a guy who's just a campus editorial writer.
Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Someone for whom you are already in the corner before it even began.
dan friesen
No, because I hated most of the other columnists at my campus paper.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
But it just makes me think of how much fucking fun I would have with this.
jordan holmes
I know!
dan friesen
When I was in college, I wrote for my campus paper for three years.
I wrote editorials for The Maneater, the University of Missouri student newspaper.
jordan holmes
Which is why you hearing a student newspaper editorial become shit-talking is the greatest thing you've ever heard.
dan friesen
And I got incredible hot water for an article I wrote about how all farmers do is jack off cows.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And shit like that.
It was a satirical piece, but I got like...
Fucking death threats.
I got people trying to kick me out of college.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
I bet he's doing great right now.
dan friesen
And I turned that into so much fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just telling people to kiss my ass.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, people would send me aggressive emails.
I would just be like, kiss my ass.
Come on.
Come on.
Bring it.
Bring it, you wuss.
And so, like, if Alex Jones, when I was in college, had taken my article and started lying about it and misrepresenting it and turning it into something like one of his narratives, I would have been like...
Fuck you.
This is going to be the best day of my life!
I'd be sitting there drunk as shit and just like...
It would be all I talked about.
jordan holmes
That actually infuriates me on a different level.
How is it that he's getting this fucking idiot editorial writer shit and he still hasn't found out about us?
That's bullshit.
dan friesen
Well, because he's not afraid of them.
I don't mean this...
jordan holmes
He's not afraid of us!
dan friesen
I don't mean this narcissistically.
He should be.
Like, the fact that we take the time and deconstruct the things that, like, the Muslim slave trade narrative and the Dennis Montgomery one we did way back, those sorts of things.
Like, we deal with him in a way that he's not being dealt with by other people.
And I think he should be scared of giving us any kind of promotion.
Even if it's these guys are fucking globalists, I know Soros pays them, something like that, that even would be dangerous for him.
Anything that would get us more attention would be very dangerous.
jordan holmes
But all he's doing is giving this dumbass editorial writer more attention.
dan friesen
Right, but he knows that he can just use that guy as a prop.
Now, if it was me in college and he did that, it would be a fucking huge mistake.
jordan holmes
That sounds dangerously Alex Jones-ian right there.
dan friesen
No, because I would...
jordan holmes
Because that's the writing equivalent of you being like...
Hey, look, he can punch that guy over there, but if he punches me, I'm gonna beat his ass.
dan friesen
No, I'm presenting, like, I don't know what this editorial writer is going to do, and I hope he has a little bit of the Dan in him.
jordan holmes
I hope he gets in contact with us.
dan friesen
I hope he has Dan's spirit in him, because if I was then, I would get on Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I know he would want to have me on the show, and then I would just get wasted.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Or something like that, and make a mockery of the proceedings.
jordan holmes
What is this dude?
Dude, why are we not emailing this dude right now?
dan friesen
We'll get in touch with him.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Why are we not doing that?
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
I didn't actually read his article.
I'm not going to read a fucking campus editorial.
jordan holmes
They're all trash.
Well, of course not.
Of course not.
dan friesen
They're all fucking trash.
jordan holmes
That's not the point.
The point is now that we got this guy on our team, we can throw him on the Alex Jones team.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So let's move along.
I just have a lot of fantasies about what I could have done back then.
unidentified
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, Dan.
dan friesen
Oh well.
Anyway, in this next clip...
jordan holmes
I would take him down into my editorial workshop and I'd just...
unidentified
Hammer out a typewriter piece.
jordan holmes
I'd say nasty things to him.
dan friesen
I'd probably just get high and write something.
jordan holmes
That'd be fun.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex earlier was talking about how Putin is going to pay white people to reproduce.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And in this next clip, he has a little article about Muslims.
jordan holmes
A policy that makes perfect sense that we should apply to the United States.
dan friesen
He now is going to get into an article, and he does not get into the article.
He just reads the headline of an article and talks about how it's important about Muslims taking over demographically in Europe.
And the source of it might be interesting.
alex jones
Continuing, ladies and gentlemen, Muslim population Europe to triple by 2050, even with zero migration study shows.
Hmm, RT.
jordan holmes
It's going to go from 1% to 3%?
dan friesen
Possibly, and you heard that at the end.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's from RT.
dan friesen
It's from RT.
It's from RT.
So, one of the big pieces of news.
From Alex's last marathon is that he launched a new product called The Real Red Pill.
Right?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
You told me about that.
dan friesen
And from what we've been able to discern, it's a multivitamin.
Yeah.
It's nothing.
jordan holmes
It's a multivitamin that turns you into an aware, socially reprehensible human being.
dan friesen
It also has a steroid precursor.
jordan holmes
It makes you think other human beings are asleep and that you should kill them at will.
dan friesen
I promise there's no stimulants in here, but also Brain Force has some stimulants.
jordan holmes
Let's get fucked up and sing a song.
dan friesen
He does so many fucking commercials for this real red pill.
And I just have this that I thought was really funny.
alex jones
So it's reportedly, you can do your own research, totally and completely safe.
dan friesen
I don't think that's a ringing endorsement.
jordan holmes
It's totally and completely safe, according to research.
dan friesen
You can do your own research.
jordan holmes
Don't.
dan friesen
It's reportedly safe.
jordan holmes
Reportedly safe.
dan friesen
That's not good.
jordan holmes
I don't like it when you have to tell me something is totally and completely safe.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't like it.
jordan holmes
If you were like, hey, Jordan, take this.
It's completely safe.
I would be like, uh, that...
That doesn't sound good.
If you said it's totally and completely safe, I'd be like, I do not trust you at all, sir.
dan friesen
And the caveat of, like, do your own research.
I'm not confident in this.
So when we were going back through 2015, we discovered that Alex stole Hillary for prison from a bumper sticker that he saw and turned it into a million-dollar industry for him with the shirts and, you know, bum-rushing Hillary events and stuff like that.
And in this next clip, he admits that he stole the name Real Red Pill from The Matrix.
jordan holmes
Well, that's not surprising, though.
alex jones
Depending on the batch, pink or red, this particular batch of the beetroot's not that dark, which is barely pink.
I thought a pink pill, I go, ooh, Matrix, Redbilt.
Call it the real Redbilt.
dan friesen
I know it's not surprising, but it is important that we document, like, legitimately how uncreative Alex is.
He stole one of his biggest things from a bumper sticker that he saw, and he's admitting that he just stole this from the Matrix.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but that's a hard right thing.
That's always been a hard thing.
It's always been a red pill.
Like, that's what they've called their conversion for years.
dan friesen
No, no, I know.
I understand.
jordan holmes
I just don't find this one to be surprising.
dan friesen
It's not surprising.
It's just about putting it on the record.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He admits...
jordan holmes
It's just about putting it on...
For posterity.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
This is about documenting.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
He steals everything.
jordan holmes
You're right.
dan friesen
He's uncreative and just is a plagiarist to a great extent.
jordan holmes
Sounds like a plan.
dan friesen
Anyway.
In his next clip.
Alex Jones.
He has a...
You know...
I would say that one of the things that defines the man...
Is a certain over-inflated sense of himself and his importance in the world.
jordan holmes
No idea.
dan friesen
And that's why he pretends that these callers that lie to him are CIA sources and stuff like that.
I don't know if you've been keeping up.
The FBI guy.
jordan holmes
I'm literally not allowed to keep up.
By design, I cannot keep up.
dan friesen
So I know you've been slacking on keeping up.
unidentified
God damn it!
dan friesen
But the FBI caller who was saying there's helicopters shooting at the Las Vegas shooting and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Yes.
CIA operated.
dan friesen
Who Alex said the FBI contacted 20 minutes after he was on the phone with them and they put him in the clink.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Took away his phone and all this shit.
jordan holmes
How's he doing now?
dan friesen
Then he called in again and Alex was like, oh, they got him in trouble again.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
His new narrative is that he's had to flee the country or something along those lines.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Are we doing a VH1?
Where are they now?
Is that what's going on?
dan friesen
The narrative has escalated incredibly.
I don't believe a lick of it.
jordan holmes
Where is he now?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Easter Island?
jordan holmes
Is he...
dan friesen
Undisclosed country.
jordan holmes
Is he cutting us off from our escape plan?
dan friesen
He might be.
jordan holmes
Oh, that bastard.
dan friesen
So, the reason I wanted to bring that up is I want to play a little bit of Alex's game, the conspiracy game.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Before I do, I want to make it clear that I think Alex is making all this up and the caller is bullshitting.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But if he's not...
And he is an FBI agent who called in and was revealing information.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The only way that the FBI would have been able to find out who he is that quickly and lock him up is if Alex tipped him off.
If Alex snitched on the guy to the FBI.
jordan holmes
Unless they've already been watching him.
dan friesen
Or watching Alex.
jordan holmes
Who isn't watching Alex?
In Alex's world?
In Alex's world?
Who isn't watching Alex?
dan friesen
I just wanted to give the suggestion that he sold out his source.
jordan holmes
You think?
dan friesen
Because he sells out all his sources.
jordan holmes
That's true, he does.
dan friesen
He has a documented history of revealing sources over and over again.
It's entirely possible.
jordan holmes
It's actually Donald Trump Jr.
dan friesen
It probably is.
Anyway, like I said, he has an inflated sense of his self and his importance.
And in his next clip, he talks about how he's been threatened by people about what he covers.
jordan holmes
No!
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't want him to...
alex jones
I've been threatened from the highest levels in private meetings that were off the record, so I won't say by who.
jordan holmes
Convenient.
alex jones
That they're going to destroy me.
dan friesen
Also, that's not the only thing that off the record covers.
You know?
It's not like, just don't say who I am.
unidentified
Hey, hold on.
jordan holmes
I'm going to destroy you.
This is off the record, though.
You can't say it.
dan friesen
So stupid.
alex jones
They're going to come after us financially and every other way if I don't leave the Muslims alone.
And I've been told, that's the group.
You leave them alone, and you leave the pedophile stuff alone.
Well, guess what?
I'm tripling down.
Get ready.
The big torpedoes are coming.
You want to fight?
You better believe you got one.
110% head-to-head.
Fill your hand.
Let's go.
jordan holmes
Fill your hand.
alex jones
That's how I go to the heights, is engaging you.
The bigger the enemy, the better.
It's everything I've been asking for.
Let's go.
I'm going to go after radical Islam.
I'm going to go after its orthodoxy.
I'm going to go after the pedophiles.
I'm going to go after the globalists.
And I'm being proven right on every front.
So get ready.
It's like I'm a missile guidance system.
What you don't want me to cover is right where I go.
So thank you for letting me know where you're at and who you are.
I'm coming for you.
And the spectacle of whatever happens will light you up for everybody else to open fire politically as well.
See, I'm not a Satanist like you.
It isn't all about me.
Because it's all about me.
It's all about my family and other decent people having a future.
It's not about me because it's all about me.
You got that?
No!
It's about my life but other people's lives because I'm connected to them and I want them to have a future.
And it's a man's job to stand up for other people's future.
Because other men did it so I'd have a future.
And I'm not going to let those other men and women down.
You got that?
It's a fight I want!
dan friesen
Great.
That is weird.
jordan holmes
Do you know what he was describing?
dan friesen
There's a lot of things.
jordan holmes
He was describing conversations with his lawyers he's had about things that he is going to get sued over.
dan friesen
It probably is being sued.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's not talking about high-level people who have threatened him.
He's talking about his lawyers being like, okay, here's what you said, and here's how we're all going to lose our money.
dan friesen
You are in jeopardy.
jordan holmes
Here's what you said, here's how we're going to lose all of our money.
Here's what you said, you're my favorite client.
I am going to charge you all the money.
dan friesen
There are a lot of hours.
jordan holmes
So many hours you can bill on Alex.
dan friesen
But the thing is there, what I think, first of all, the it's not about me, it's all about me thing.
jordan holmes
That makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Well, I think it does on some level.
Because I think that he is, it's the race memory stuff.
jordan holmes
I think Berita just threw that on the things you think is reasonable list.
dan friesen
I think that what he's doing is he's trying to tap into that, like, my ancestors are right here kind of thing.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So he's like, we are all the same person.
To some extent.
jordan holmes
Still don't get it.
dan friesen
Well, in an empathic sense, I do really like that kind of thought, that you and I are essentially the same person, just living different experiences.
jordan holmes
The great big blob theory.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean...
jordan holmes
The Buddhist great big blob.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, it's a great way to force empathy on yourself if you can't get there other ways.
jordan holmes
Well, clearly it is not.
Clearly it is an ineffective way of thinking about things in order to successfully do that.
dan friesen
It's not how Alex uses it.
I will definitely agree with you there.
But the other thing is, like, this to me feels real tired.
Like, he's trying to work himself up and, like, you want to fight?
unidentified
You got it!
dan friesen
And he just can't get over the hill into, like, the I'm going to scream and yell.
And I don't know why.
Maybe no brain force in the studio or something along those lines, but it does feel a bit different than normal.
jordan holmes
You think he's not capable of turning over the engine quite as strong?
dan friesen
I think there might be something going on.
And I understand.
If I'm hungover or something like that, it's tough for me to work.
It's tough for me to get my chains in motion.
And there might be some sort of...
Stimulant withdrawal or something like that he's experiencing.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
Because you know how it goes.
People order too much of the brain force, and then you're out.
The warehouse is not in.
You didn't plan ahead.
jordan holmes
Well, and you know he has auto-ship because he wants that extra 10% discount.
Come on, man.
unidentified
It's true.
dan friesen
Or he could just be hungover.
unidentified
Alex, he's a bargain hunter.
jordan holmes
He buys everything for the year on Cyber Monday.
dan friesen
Back in the day, he used to cut coupons.
jordan holmes
Yeah, hey.
What are you going to do?
dan friesen
So in this next clip...
jordan holmes
Probably still cuts coupons.
dan friesen
In this next clip, Alex Jones gets really defensive about how Right Wing Watch put up a video.
jordan holmes
Before we go any further, let me ask you a question.
dan friesen
Please do.
jordan holmes
Do you think it's a today thing, or do you think it's a larger trend of him not being able to really turn it over?
dan friesen
No, I think it's today.
jordan holmes
You think it's just today?
dan friesen
Yeah, because other days...
jordan holmes
He's really gotten the ghost?
dan friesen
The beginning of that feminist baby riff.
That was...
He was on.
For sure.
jordan holmes
I don't like any part of that sentence.
dan friesen
Feminist baby!
jordan holmes
The beginning part of that baby feminist riff, he was on for sure, is not a sentence that I ever want to hear again.
dan friesen
He's got the spirit in him.
Right.
His, like, trying to not get to the story because he knew it was weak.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Like, he was on, like, Donkey Kong.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It was good.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But, anyway, this next clip.
Right Wing Watch put out a video about him basically praying on air, which we've seen him do a bit.
jordan holmes
We've seen plenty of prayers.
dan friesen
And he gets pretty defensive about it, and then he pivots to a really weird, real weird thing.
alex jones
They had Right Wing Watch and all these globalist Soros funding groups attack me and make fun of me yesterday saying, Alex Jones called on the power of Christ.
Alex Jones told his listeners...
To ask God for guidance and to pray to Jesus Christ, and they made jokes about it.
dan friesen
So Alex thinks, he thinks, we're going to get to the crazy part, but he thinks that they're like, they hate Christians and what have you, but the reality is that...
And we know that Christians don't even let their daughters date until they run away at 18. The reality is that they're making fun of how he does it.
It's so fake.
It's so false.
Like, our first episode has the...
It's time to pray.
jordan holmes
It's time to pray.
God, that's right.
I forgot about that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's so good.
dan friesen
He does shit like that, where it's like, it's so false.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's really more what they're making fun of.
It's like, he's screaming about hating people and demons and all that.
jordan holmes
It's time to pray.
dan friesen
Time to pray.
alex jones
That's why you're godless losers, filth.
You're so disconnected.
You think it's discrediting that I call on the name Jesus Christ?
dan friesen
No.
alex jones
They act like they manage all the words.
jordan holmes
I actually agree.
alex jones
And they manage the culture.
jordan holmes
I do think it's discrediting.
alex jones
And they manage everything.
So if they say something's discrediting, then oh, I better stop doing it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Oh, Trump's discredited because he tweets what he wants to.
Oh, he showed Muslims involved in violence.
jordan holmes
Well, actually, yeah.
Again, I agree.
alex jones
That's the greatest crime.
Oh.
The Dutch government says this video of a kid being beaten up may not be real.
Oh, really?
The Muslims never beat up anybody.
There's no go zones.
France, England, Sweden, Germany all have no go zones where the fire departments and the police departments won't even go.
Just type it in.
dan friesen
I did.
jordan holmes
Not true.
dan friesen
Alex, don't tell people to type it in.
jordan holmes
Not true.
dan friesen
So here's what comes up if you Google that.
It turns out that in 2015, here's a headline out of the New York Times.
Fox News apologizes for false claims of Muslim-only areas in England and France.
jordan holmes
Can't think of any reason.
dan friesen
Fox News issued an unusual on-air apology on Saturday night for having allowed its anchors and guests to repeat the false claim that there are Muslim-only no-go zones in European countries like England and France.
France that are not under the control of the state and are ruled according to Sharia law.
The statement was referred to as a correction by the Fox report host, Julie Banderas, who said that, quote, over the course of this last week, we have made some regrettable errors on air regarding the Muslim population in Europe, particularly with regard to England and France.
Now, this applies especially to discussions of so-called no-go zones, areas where non-Muslims allegedly are not allowed in, and police supposedly won't go, Ms. Banderas continued.
To be clear, there is no formal designation of these zones in either country, and no credible information to support the assertion that there are specific areas in these countries that exclude individuals solely based on their religion.
jordan holmes
Sounds true to me.
dan friesen
That's Fox News!
jordan holmes
And even notoriously stupid and diplomatic New York Times is like, Fox News issued a rare apology, which might as well read like...
Notoriously low-barred Fox News finds out they went below that bar themselves.
dan friesen
Fox News says, whoops.
That should be the headline.
Just like, uh-oh.
So Alex, come on.
jordan holmes
Fox News delineates line we didn't know existed for them.
dan friesen
You can do this, too.
You can look into it if you want.
You can dig a little bit deeper and find...
jordan holmes
Type it in!
dan friesen
Sure, type it in.
jordan holmes
Type it in!
dan friesen
All these ideas.
I mean, like, this is one of the things they talk about all the time with Sweden.
They talk about Malmo, the city of Malmo, being like, there's only Muslims, they're violent, Sharia law.
And if you look into it, it's absolutely not true.
There are videos much like the ones Trump retweeted or Paul Joseph Watson makes hay out of.
They're misrepresented videos.
Again, I can't stress enough the idea that Paul Joseph Watson would have a video of a New Year's celebration where people are shooting off fireworks and stuff and claim that it's Muslim hordes run amok.
It means that nothing is credible.
Your standards of what you're doing are out the window.
And so whenever you have these people who are reporting on these Muslim no-go zones, it's generally stuff like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's flimsy bullshit.
jordan holmes
It's frustrating to me that...
Because that's...
Like, the one truth of America is the one truth of immigrants who go anywhere.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Which is not when an immigrant goes somewhere, they just want to recreate their home.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
When an immigrant goes somewhere...
They become part of somewhere new.
And that is what America is.
When you go to New Orleans, you don't go there because you see a different group of people everywhere.
You go there because you see all of these people creating something new.
Creating something beautiful because they all want to join the place they're at.
dan friesen
And let me take that even one step further.
One of the things that's so awesome, I live in Uptown in Chicago.
As do I. There's an area called...
little Vietnam, just as one of the examples of the little sort of cultural enclaves that exist in the city.
You go down to Pilsen and go down to Chinatown.
And there are places like that, which is the affirmation of the other side of the immigrant experience, wherein you want to become a part of the whole, but at the same time, you retain the pieces of your culture and everyone can appreciate them and join in your culture on a facsimile level within the larger American culture.
It's beautiful.
jordan holmes
It's great.
dan friesen
And to even bring Muslims into it, when I was growing up, there was a mosque in Columbia, Missouri that was, I don't know, a couple blocks from downtown.
I mean, whatever that means in a small town.
But I would go to the mosque.
I would go with my family.
We'd go and just go to other cultures' festivals.
Not even just services.
jordan holmes
All of Chicago.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All of Chicago.
Cuban festival.
Puerto Rican festival.
unidentified
All of it.
jordan holmes
All of those things.
And you don't go there and see all of these Cuban people, and every time a white person walks in, they're like, whoa, back the fuck off!
dan friesen
It's like the record scratch.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
It's everybody like, check this shit out!
Look at this shit!
Look at what's going on here!
dan friesen
And generally, you hope that it's not like...
The Halloween costume version of appropriation, you know, like...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You have a Mexican festival and it's just drunk white people and sombreros.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Well, you do get that...
jordan holmes
Do you mean Cinco de Mayo?
dan friesen
Well, you do get that for Cinco de Mayo or St. Patrick's Day.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
You get those versions of stuff, but...
jordan holmes
Which is a weird...
Which is one of the weirder, like...
Okay.
dan friesen
But that's because those holidays are really just about booze.
jordan holmes
Civil War and...
Chasing snakes out of everywhere.
But those are the two holidays we sell?
I mean, fine.
dan friesen
It's less about what the holiday is and how it's become associated with booze.
Yeah, of course.
unidentified
And once again, immigrants, they go places.
jordan holmes
We all want to get fucked up together.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
That's what we do.
dan friesen
And that's the bigger picture.
And you can have those examples of Cinco de Mayo and St. Patrick's Day, but if you look at the bigger picture, you look at the broader picture, there are all those other awesome little fests.
Block parties and what have you.
jordan holmes
Do you want to know what the best thing to show people who hate immigrants is?
dan friesen
Immigrants?
jordan holmes
The movie Coneheads.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
It's such a strangely accurate immigrant story.
I swear to God.
dan friesen
Wait, that's not a thing.
jordan holmes
No, that's Mork and Mindy.
I swear to God, watch Coneheads now with the image of white nationalism in your head, and you'll be like...
Oh, I kind of get it now.
dan friesen
They come from France.
jordan holmes
They come from France!
dan friesen
I got one reference.
jordan holmes
But their daughter grows up speaking unaccented English, like all of this shit, and they get that feeling of like, well, we want you to have some sort of connection to your homeland, while at the same time we do want you to integrate into your new homeland.
And so there's all of these fears coming together.
Also, oh my god, Dan Aykroyd, he talks funny.
dan friesen
They think condoms are gum.
jordan holmes
They eat all kinds of...
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Wild.
He drives a taxi, isn't that weird?
dan friesen
This isn't a movie review show.
jordan holmes
Anyways.
Anyways.
Just like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is a surprising review of gang culture in New York City in the late 80s, so is Coneheads, a surprising review of immigrant culture in the late 90s.
dan friesen
Let's go to this next clip.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying!
dan friesen
This is a Mike Down clip.
jordan holmes
Predictive programming.
dan friesen
This is a Mike Down clip.
jordan holmes
Everything is a Mike Down clip from here on out.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex Jones reveals that he has a nuanced understanding of lesbians, and it's one of the more fucked up things I've heard on this show.
alex jones
Most of the show called.
Liberal lesbians and all these groups, they just want to have the guy with the duck's ass haircut and the James Dean outfit.
The truth is, James Dean wasn't slapping girls around, but they want to be the ones slapping the girls around.
And statistically, it shows it.
I'm not blaming all lesbians, but it shows that most of these butch lesbians, they want to be the guy smacking the hot chick around.
They think that's manly.
And a lot of the chicks, they like it.
See, because no man will do that to them.
And I'm not saying it's good if a man does that.
But some women like it.
And if they can't find a man to smack them around, well, they found them a girl going to do it real good.
Knock them upside their head and have 50 shades of gray about the sexy rich guy that's going to chain you up.
Of course, you're going to get chained up one time.
They're going to put that devil mask or that piggy mask on.
They're going to say, now I'm going to torture you for about six weeks.
unidentified
So start begging for your mommy and your daddy.
alex jones
That's the liberals.
dan friesen
So I'm going to pause there for a second, because he jumps from that onto something, if possible, even more fucked up.
jordan holmes
I can't...
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So he argues that, I guess what he's saying is that...
jordan holmes
First off, what he's saying is he's hit women.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what he's saying.
dan friesen
He's saying it's not right, but some like it.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's saying that Stockholm Syndrome is actually just how you're supposed to deal with people.
dan friesen
Right.
I don't know what to do with that.
jordan holmes
Well, when he says, that's not what I'm saying, the question is, then what are you saying?
And the answer is, I think he's saying it's okay to hit women.
dan friesen
I think he probably on some level thinks that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, the male-dominated culture that he has expressed wanting.
jordan holmes
Well, and of course, if you are...
Hitting somebody, generally speaking, they will say, no, please don't hit me.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
In which case, you will say, no.
Your no actually means you really want me to hit you.
dan friesen
But he's not wrong on some level that the sexual spectrum is wide and some people rough trade.
jordan holmes
No, again, that's fine.
dan friesen
But at the same time, that's not what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
There's something called consent.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
He is not talking about consent.
dan friesen
No, and he's talking about smacking people around.
That's not within the consensual boundaries.
jordan holmes
And even then, he's like, well, okay.
His logic does not track.
Okay.
Women go to lesbians because they want to get hit and no man will do it.
dan friesen
Right.
That's sort of what he's saying.
jordan holmes
Then later on, he says, women who let men hit them, then they put on pig masks and say, I'm going to torture you for six weeks.
dan friesen
No, that's just jumping into his Fifty Shades of Grey as a gateway drug kind of thing.
You get tied up once and everything's fun.
Everything's cool.
But then the next time, they torture you.
That's what he believes about the idea of BDSM and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
And that's liberals.
dan friesen
Liberals.
So now let's get to the rest of this clip because I'm telling you, it gets even more fucked up.
The way his brain jumps around.
jordan holmes
It's very strange.
dan friesen
Listen to this fucking shit.
alex jones
They want to get you in a dungeon.
They want to strap you down and take a buzzsaw and cut the top of your head off like a pumpkin and pull it off and get a little spoon and go, well, you're looking in the mirror.
This is one thing I know they like to do.
unidentified
They go, I'm going to eat your brain now.
alex jones
Let's start.
Let's start at the side areas here, because we don't want to take away your side at the back or your thinking on the front.
I'm going to eat your cerebral cortex last, because I've got power!
I love Satan, and I'm going to suck you dry, and I'm going to torture you to death!
And you're going to follow my liberal orders, and you're going to talk like I talk, and you're going to be guilty when I say you're guilty, and you're going to bow to me!
dan friesen
Alex just watched Hannibal.
That's what happened.
He watched that Ray Liotta scene in Hannibal.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's no other reference for that.
I can think of no other way you would grab that specific reference, right?
dan friesen
It's just Hannibal.
That's literally a scene from the sequel to Silence of the Lambs.
He just got fucking high as shit on brain pills or whatever and watched Hannibal.
This is so real.
Oh my god.
Ray Liotta, this is a documentary.
That guy's not an actor.
jordan holmes
Even if you're talking metaphorically, that still doesn't make sense.
dan friesen
It's really interesting how that's not really blood libel, but it's real close.
It's not in that narrative, but it's still...
The cannibalism aspect of it is interesting.
jordan holmes
Here's what I think.
I think the people who invented blood libel would hear that and be like, Shit!
What a great idea!
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
We should have been saying that shit the whole time!
Are you kidding me?
dan friesen
The Europeans...
jordan holmes
We aren't fucked up enough to get there.
dan friesen
To be fair...
jordan holmes
In a land where 90% of the children we know die of rickets, we're not that fucked up.
dan friesen
To be fair, I can't pull the name of the guy who wrote Hannibal, but he wasn't around.
jordan holmes
Oh, Hannibal.
Hannibal Buress.
dan friesen
Hannibal Buress, yeah.
To be fair, those movies and books didn't exist back then, so how do those people have those ideas?
Alex Jones...
jordan holmes
Race memory?
dan friesen
...is an idiot.
So, earlier...
We discussed how Alex believes that they're...
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
Do they mention...
Does he mention in Hannibal how he's not going to eat the...
Frontal cortex and all that stuff?
dan friesen
No, but he takes off the top of Ray Liotta's head.
jordan holmes
Right.
No, no, no.
I was just...
Because that suggests a certain level of information about the brain that I would not have expected from Alex.
dan friesen
No, but I think he's wrong also.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
That doesn't match science.
jordan holmes
No, of course it's wrong.
dan friesen
As I recall, no, there's not that.
I think that's just where his fantasies led.
jordan holmes
I just think it's fun to see him go wild with the small amount of knowledge he does have where it's like, Okay, well, if I were going to eat a brain and torture somebody, I would pick the middle part because that seems fine.
The front part is good, the middle part's weird, the back part is lizards.
That's what I know.
dan friesen
He knows that the center is where everything happens, and that's why you eat around the sides.
Wernicke and Broca's area are on the sides.
jordan holmes
He could have also just seen Temple of Doom.
They eat a monkey's head there.
dan friesen
That's true.
That's a monkey.
jordan holmes
That's a monkey.
dan friesen
This is Hannibal.
jordan holmes
Who among us are monkeys?
dan friesen
Anyway, I'm an ape.
But be that his name.
Yeah, you are.
We talked about Muslim no-go zones and how even Fox News had to apologize for covering that because it's not real.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
In his next clip.
Alex Jones pretends that there are no-go zones in America.
jordan holmes
Ooh, where?
dan friesen
And not even that.
Not even just America.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Austin itself.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Not in Austin!
alex jones
I like the food they've got in East Austin.
It's very diverse food.
You've got white folks, black folks, Hispanics, Asians, all living in peace.
But there's a certain minority of black folks now that have bought into the whole Black Lives Matter, the chip-on-the-shoulder deal, and the rest of it.
And, I mean, almost everybody I know has been mugged.
Or that people tried to mug them, which is pretty dangerous because a lot of folks are concealed carry.
dan friesen
Pulls out a gun.
alex jones
But...
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
I don't want to put myself and my family in that danger.
jordan holmes
So we've never gone outside!
alex jones
Ten times a couple years ago and three times had very aggressive, large black males come up to me like it was a business.
They were well-dressed each time and threatened to attack me about it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, we've talked about this already.
The stories that you tell, he's describing a homeless person.
jordan holmes
Hey, I'm starving.
And he interprets that as a threat.
dan friesen
And he's being attacked or whatever.
But hold on.
alex jones
I didn't get money.
And I just got in a fighting stance.
And I just said, man, you need to back off.
But that's what happened.
And my wife, by the third time, she goes, I guess you're right.
We can't eat over here.
And I said, no.
I said, I don't.
She goes, we can just carry your gun.
And I just said, I want to leave it in the car.
I don't want to have to do this.
I'm not out looking for this.
I'm white.
It's a no-go zone.
I can't go.
And a lot of folks that first moved in over there that I know personally that were liberals, they're having to move out.
I mean, they're being robbed.
They're being attacked.
And the black culture with that minority of racist blacks is, whites are evil.
They deserve to be mugged.
They deserve to be attacked.
The new Black Panther Party in Houston says, don't loot in your neighborhood.
Go loot the whites.
Go kill the whites.
You know, go mug the whites?
dan friesen
So, I mean, this is just racial fear.
This is all nonsense.
I've been to East Austin.
jordan holmes
Minority of racist blacks exists.
Minority slash plurality of racist whites does not exist.
dan friesen
Right, and they're all feds.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Simple point of view.
dan friesen
When I first moved to the city, Chicago, that is, I was really afraid of going to the south side or going west or anything like that.
jordan holmes
We have bad ads for that.
dan friesen
To be fair, there are some areas that aren't no-go zones, but there are areas where you don't want to necessarily be after dark.
jordan holmes
You won't see a right woman running at three.
dan friesen
And if you do, keep on running.
It's a reality of the fucked up.
jordan holmes
I mean, let's start with Nixon.
dan friesen
But be that as it may, I thought the entirety of certain areas of the city are just like, don't go there, you'll get stabbed.
Because that is the rhetoric that people throw around.
jordan holmes
That's what my parents threw around when I moved to Chicago, yeah.
dan friesen
And it probably took me a good year or so, not to get past that, because I realized that it was probably overblown, but to get...
To the point where I'm like, no, almost all the city is awesome.
And I've been to East Austin.
It's a great area that there might be dangerous pockets in.
It's just the nature of cities.
That's kind of how urban areas work.
jordan holmes
We go through this so many different times, but it's like, if you go by per 100,000, all of a sudden you start seeing Chicago go down in the murder rate.
And even then, you see the statistics on white-on-white and black-on-black crime, and chances are there's a 90% chance you're going to get fucked up by somebody of your own race.
dan friesen
Alex rejects those statistics.
jordan holmes
Like, you can go to the South Side anytime you want, walk around anywhere.
You might get a weird look, but even then...
You're not going to get hurt.
Nobody wants to hurt anybody else.
dan friesen
I give people weird looks constantly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right.
dan friesen
That's not weird.
jordan holmes
It's weird that you always do it to black people, though.
Have we had that talk?
dan friesen
We should probably do this off air.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Let me tell you how I feel about Asian people.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So...
jordan holmes
It was such a weird idea.
dan friesen
What, that riff you just went on?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that someday, that some point in time...
dan friesen
The pretend racist riff?
jordan holmes
That sometime on this show, I'd just be like, hey, guys, by the way, hate Asian people.
I know it's a weird blind spot for me.
dan friesen
150 episodes in, time to lay that on.
jordan holmes
Weird thing to throw on you now.
dan friesen
So, I mean, like, just this idea that he's applying this fictional stuff about no-go zones in Europe to now Austin being a place where there are no-go zones.
It's just he's so scared of everything.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just...
jordan holmes
No, he's not scared.
He wants you to be scared.
dan friesen
Right, right.
There's a financial incentive in him to make you afraid.
It's just fucked up.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
And not just that, but a political incentive.
The less...
If you are in a city, one of the things that winds up making you so much more likely to be inclusive is that you are included.
dan friesen
Well, and you...
jordan holmes
When you're included in far...
As we were talking about earlier, when you're included in a...
Cuban celebration, you're not afraid of Cubans anymore.
You're included.
dan friesen
And you start to understand why they have that weird ham, pickled, and mustard sandwich.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
The more you eat white people food, the more you're like, ugh, maybe we shouldn't.
dan friesen
This plantain isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.
It's still pretty bad.
But be that as it may.
jordan holmes
Wait a second.
It's like a banana?
dan friesen
It's like a little banana.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Huh?
dan friesen
Anyway, at the top of the show, we dealt with the narrative that Alex is pitching that...
Matt Lauer and Garrison Keillor's sexual assault accusations.
jordan holmes
Really just a money dodge.
dan friesen
It's all just trying to get out of contracts and what have you.
And that isn't flippant.
He brings it up a bunch.
jordan holmes
Is that why the 49ers actually let Colin Kaepernick go?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Is that what his argument is?
dan friesen
No, that doesn't come up.
jordan holmes
Not that they're all incredibly racist and recognize that their fans are all racist too?
dan friesen
That doesn't come up.
But...
I just want to stress that, like, it's not just a throwaway thing for him.
He brings it up, like, three or four times on the show.
That's really what he thinks is going on, which is bizarre.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Theory on why he would go so hard for that.
dan friesen
Well, he's dumb.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's Roy Moore adjacent.
jordan holmes
Preemptive damage control.
dan friesen
For Trump.
jordan holmes
For him.
dan friesen
No, I don't think for him.
jordan holmes
You don't think so for him?
dan friesen
No, I don't think so.
jordan holmes
You don't think Millie Weaver has got a story or two?
dan friesen
I don't.
Well, I...
jordan holmes
Tell me that Leanne McAdoo does not have a story to tell.
dan friesen
I think they dated.
There's a lot of talk online.
jordan holmes
That NBA is not going to last.
dan friesen
I don't know that to be true.
Their interaction is really weird.
But at the same time, there's rumors around that they had a fling or something like that.
And I would believe that's possible.
And I'm not defending Alex Jones at all in saying this.
I don't think that that is his style.
I don't think he's a sexual harasser.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but you wouldn't have thought that about Matt fucking Lauer either.
dan friesen
I would think it more than Alex Jones.
I think that he is probably a harasser, but not like a grabbing...
Maybe he is, though.
The way he yelled at that lady on the street.
jordan holmes
He sounds like an ass.
He's an ass grabber all the way.
dan friesen
You might have talked me into it.
You might have talked me into this.
There's probably something.
jordan holmes
I think if somebody comes forward on Alex...
Somebody will.
dan friesen
I think the more likely thing is protection for Trump and Roy Moore.
That's more where his feelings lie.
jordan holmes
Well, if it's politically motivated for those guys, or financially motivated, then in the same way it has to be financially motivated for Roy Moore and for Trump as well.
dan friesen
Well, but then also at the same time, with the narrative that it's about the contracts, that feeds into his pre-existing narrative of the media collapsing and everything falling apart.
So he has a lot of reasons to be in that camp.
jordan holmes
He's backed himself into a strange corner of now defending every sexual harasser.
dan friesen
To some extent, and it is weird.
This next clip, he's unclear whether he's defending Matt Lauer.
It's very, it's up and down, very confusing.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
We have the just accelerating executives, top media analysts, top talk show host being thrown overboard.
Many cases like Lauer, they knew about the sexual behavior for a decade.
The escapades, obviously many of the women wanted to be involved with him.
But I don't, I'm still not defending it.
It just shows the out of control behavior.
dan friesen
So in that clip, he's saying that most of the girls wanted it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I'm not defending him.
jordan holmes
As every dude always says, they wanted it.
dan friesen
Right, right.
So he is defending it, but he's trying to play that weird fence.
He's trying to play that weird line of, like, I'm not defending it, but everything I'm doing is defending.
So in this next clip, we know that the globalists don't exist, as Alex believes them to.
And in this clip, he is sort of imagining his current victory over the globalists and what they're doing now.
jordan holmes
His current victory.
dan friesen
Well, it's the next chapter of his fan fiction, somewhat.
And it's what the globalists are doing now.
alex jones
And now it's gone from the hedge?
To they're moving their main operations to the bunkers right now.
So, things are not going too well for them.
And of course, you can even see that in mainstream media now that they're evacuating.
So, when you see the generals loading up on their train and, you know, running, and then you see the train politically blowing up, because a lot of them aren't even politically getting out.
A lot of them are getting indicted, or they're going to prison, or they're being found, you know, hung in their bedrooms.
Because a lot of their own people are turning on each other.
A lot of the mid-level minions are turning on their bosses, but also bosses are cleaning up the breadcrumbs, cleaning up any witnesses right now.
So a whole lot of folks are getting killed right now.
And the globalists have got their hands full.
Their hands full, killing off people that know.
Where the bodies are buried or where the bank accounts are, where the landing bases are.
All over rural areas, they're building landing strips for heavy aircraft.
That's been in the news.
dan friesen
What?
Where?
What?
That's Jade Helm-style shit.
jordan holmes
There's a massive global cover-up where people are being killed who have the goods?
dan friesen
Politically.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
But be that as it may, it's like...
Alex.
You're crazy.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
That's good old fashioned crazy.
dan friesen
If you want to dance this dance, my friend, if you want to do that, you need information.
It's half of your name.
jordan holmes
You have...
dan friesen
Info is short for information.
jordan holmes
You have missed the point entirely, my friend.
dan friesen
You need it.
You need...
jordan holmes
I think you've lost your mind, Dan.
dan friesen
All these people are getting killed.
All around.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Who?
jordan holmes
Oh.
Seth Rich.
Frank.
dan friesen
Seth Rich.
jordan holmes
Frank.
dan friesen
Seth Rich.
jordan holmes
From down the way.
dan friesen
Seth Rich.
jordan holmes
He went down to one of those no-go zones.
A Soros operative took him down.
Do you know why?
dan friesen
Why is that?
jordan holmes
He had information on Frankie J. The singer?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Do you ever have a no-go zone snow cone?
It's really good.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I've had a no-go zone.
dan friesen
Calzone?
jordan holmes
Calzone.
God damn it, Dan!
dan friesen
A no-go zone, Calzone?
jordan holmes
I was actually going to go with Puzzone.
dan friesen
Tommy Davidson with a no-go zone.
Anyway, in this next clip, Alex Jones projects a whole bunch.
alex jones
Most idiotic, moronic people are going along with this.
Because it's like a sense of getting a royal title that someone was racist to you or someone was bad to you.
So the more chips you can have on your shoulder, the better.
But really, you're just being taught how to be an unhirable, drooling basket case.
jordan holmes
Well, first off, Dan, someone has been racist to me, so you may bow.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
I have, in fact, been sexually assaulted.
You may bow once more.
dan friesen
My lord.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
The irony there, the projection is like three quarters of the show is him talking about people treating him bad because he's white.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So like, it don't, I mean, okay.
The difference between minorities and women.
Speaking up for themselves and trying to adjust the social hierarchy.
jordan holmes
Is that they're wrong and it's okay if you're white.
dan friesen
Well, but the difference between that and Alex Jones creating an entire worldview that involves intentional poisoning of the water and destruction of Christian Christendom systems.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
As a way to attack white people.
jordan holmes
White male patriarchy.
dan friesen
It goes back to what I was trying to get to with the feminist baby thing.
It's like, you...
People post memes and then laugh, like Nazi memes, and then laugh that people are like, haha, you're triggered.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You saw a feminist baby book and you...
jordan holmes
Cried like a little bitch.
dan friesen
You did an entire 15-minute segment about it on your show.
jordan holmes
I want to see that movie now.
dan friesen
That's triggered.
jordan holmes
We need to write feminist baby.
dan friesen
And the extent to which...
jordan holmes
Next Pixar movie.
dan friesen
The extent to which Alex Jones is like...
I have been wronged racially is on an entirely different level.
jordan holmes
I think we're going to have to go to DreamWorks with Feminist Baby.
I don't think Pixar is going to do it for us.
dan friesen
Oh, that's a Kung Fu Panda situation.
DreamWorks is the way to go.
I just...
I just don't know, man.
I don't understand how he doesn't have the reflection to be like, wait, I do that all the time.
jordan holmes
You can't.
That's the entire...
You don't have time.
We go back to this, and I've said this a million times in the past.
Hypocrisy is a feature.
It is not a bug of their worldview.
dan friesen
I don't disagree.
jordan holmes
Being capable of hypocrisy as point of view is something that they revel in.
It's their main goal.
Like, if you are a white person who wants special treatment for white people, the only way you can deal with that is by turning hypocrisy into your entire existence.
Right.
dan friesen
Turning idiocy into logic.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If you want any kind of preferential treatment while at the same time saying that everybody should be equal, hypocrisy is all you can turn to as a mode of thought.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And so...
That's their goal.
To make hypocrisy so normal that you can't help but kind of just pass over it.
Again, we've talked about this.
You pointing that out just now is something that we're all still like...
You can't do that!
dan friesen
But again...
jordan holmes
But it's everything they do!
dan friesen
But again, to some extent, it is like the documenting.
It is the same thing as the, I stole this red pill from the Matrix.
It's more just like, yeah, this is the reality of how he operates.
And not like, can you believe he's such a hypocrite?
Because we do know that game doesn't work.
It's more like, eh, here's a journal of his bullshit.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, you take a look at the progressives versus the conservatives.
And if you want to talk about hypocrisy, simply look at the way that we're dealing with sexual assault.
Progressives are currently having a purge.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And it's probably not enough and it's not aggressive enough.
Like, it's very high profile, but the mid-level guys...
dan friesen
It's not bad considering how bad it's been in the past.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And that's cold comfort to some extent.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But we're fucking...
Doing it, and we're all wrestling with it.
There's no field that you can be in now, except maybe electrical engineering, where you're like, maybe we're all run by sexual assaulters.
dan friesen
We talked about this the other day, I think when we were hanging out, is the idea that on the left, what's happening is some reflection, and hopefully dealing with the underlying issue.
And on the right, they're like, oh, we can take this opportunity to double down.
And that sucks.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But if you want to have some comfort about Alex Jones and his hypocrisy and all that stuff and what have you, he knows that his listeners are stupid.
jordan holmes
He is aware.
He is at the very least heard.
dan friesen
This next clip kind of indicates to me that he gets it.
alex jones
Yeah.
I love talking to the listeners.
We either have the best callers or the worst callers.
It's kind of a paradox.
Some folks sound like they're a little bit asleep and had a glass of rubber tusset.
Other people sound like they're ten times smarter than I am.
That's why I love taking your phone calls.
But sometimes, as we all know, it can be a bit bittersweet.
dan friesen
Certainly.
Certainly.
I think it's often bittersweet.
unidentified
What is he trying to say there?
dan friesen
He's trying to say, we're going to go to calls.
Some of them are going to be real bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure that's what he was saying.
He was making the subtext text there, Alex.
You can't do that.
dan friesen
A little bit.
And spoiler alert, a lot of them pretty bad on this episode.
Not as bad as that one with Hamamoto the other day.
That was the worst.
jordan holmes
That was disappointing.
dan friesen
But here's one of the calls.
The lady wants to get into talking about how Christians are under attack.
jordan holmes
They're always under attack.
dan friesen
And we've got to make a choice.
Are you with God or are you with Satan?
I'll let you think it over.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with Satan.
dan friesen
I'll let you think it over.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with Dave.
unidentified
And the war is on.
You have to pick a side.
You're either going to pick God's side or you're going to pick Satan's side.
And I picked Christ.
alex jones
And they don't want you to make that decision because, oh, I don't believe in God.
I don't believe in all this.
It's all coming true.
It's all happening.
And it's an energy.
Even if you're not, if folks don't even believe in metaphysical things or things they haven't been proven, we know that so much of what the ancients talked about has now been proven.
We know there's all these other dimensions, there's all these things happening, and there are archetypes, there are spirits, like a wavelength, a broadcasting system, a download.
It's what they're into.
And they just want to get Christians.
It's true.
And by the way, they don't just get Christians by killing them.
They take over the churches.
dan friesen
I think this rhetoric...
I just want to pause.
We're going to get through the rest of this clip, but I just think this rhetoric is super fucking dangerous.
I think that this...
jordan holmes
Never trust anybody who knows anything ever.
Always go with the gut and the Bible.
And if the Bible disagrees with you, go with your gut, but a lot harder.
dan friesen
And also, look, God is the only thing that's important.
Christianity is under attack, but also these churches can't be trusted.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's fucked up.
alex jones
They pay off the preachers.
They take the crosses out.
Most of these churches aren't real churches, and that's really the big threat.
There's no way Christendom could fall up against Islam if it hadn't been taken over.
The Muslims started the war.
They invaded Europe.
They took over Spain.
They pushed all the way up to Germany.
They pushed halfway into Poland.
Over and over again.
Over and over again.
unidentified
They pushed.
And then the media says, we invaded them with the crusades.
alex jones
I mean, it's all lies.
It's just not true.
I don't want to hate Muslims.
I know there are a lot of nice Muslims and a lot of reformed Muslims.
jordan holmes
I love when people say, I don't want to hate Muslims.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Because that suggests you hate Muslims against your will.
You're still hating Muslims in your words.
dan friesen
It doesn't suggest it.
It requires it.
I don't want to hate Muslims.
jordan holmes
I don't want to hate them.
unidentified
I do hate Muslims.
jordan holmes
I don't want to.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I don't want to.
I want to be a better person.
But instead, you're making me hate you.
That makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
I tweeted this earlier today when I heard this.
I tweeted that, like, it's just baffling to me that he says stuff like that and has no qualms with, like...
My audience is up.
It's cool with this.
The very idea of saying, I don't want to hate Muslims, is first of all, it's cowardly.
Because you're trying to make yourself seem like a good person within your bigotry.
But it's also admitting straight up to the bigotry.
And that's...
I mean, you would hope...
jordan holmes
He's making the subtext text.
dan friesen
You would hope that your audience would be like, dude.
But they don't.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Because they're on the same page.
jordan holmes
They're the audience that has about 10 million racial slurs in his chat room.
dan friesen
But, I mean, that gives them permission to be on the same page and admit it.
jordan holmes
Now, admittedly, we do too, but that's just on the list of things that you find reasonable.
dan friesen
I'm looking in the chat room and Oswald Donkey throwing out that Muslims weren't invading in the 1180s when the first crusade started.
That's correct.
The only thing that Alex Jones can be talking about is the expansion that the Arab armies did, the Persian armies did in like 700s.
Right.
unidentified
Which is pre-Crusades by, Or the play Othello.
dan friesen
And then we already talked about, like, it's so pointless to talk about, but the nature of empires back then were such that, like, Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, all sorts of people throughout Rome and Greece's history.
They invaded neighbors and not to the extent of just like, oh, you stayed in your geographical area.
He's trying to draw some line that the Arabs or the Muslims back then, they went into Europe when they could have just been fighting in their own places.
No one respected those boundaries because those boundaries didn't exist back then.
jordan holmes
There wasn't a France.
dan friesen
That wasn't a thing.
Poland didn't exist.
All this is complete nonsense.
jordan holmes
Well, and then even if you go back to it and talk about the empire culture of that time, if that's what you want to call it, every part of that was any of the successful empires didn't...
Demolish the cultures that they went to.
unidentified
Usually not.
jordan holmes
They absorbed them.
dan friesen
And that's why Genghis Khan was as successful as he was.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
His children would become parts of the cultures that they took over, and it endeared them in such a way that you didn't have to worry about uprisings nearly as much.
jordan holmes
And why did his successors fail?
Because they did not do that.
Because they, once again, took advantage of this idea of...
Their identity being superior simply because their lunatic dad raped and murdered his way around Mongolia.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, when you go to Rome, Rome was everywhere Rome went to.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, they first...
dan friesen
The sun never set on the...
jordan holmes
On the British Empire, not the Roman Empire.
dan friesen
The Rome, too.
jordan holmes
No, well, the point of the sun setting was the...
All right.
dan friesen
But it was...
Who cares?
jordan holmes
The point being, the first wave of Roman conquerors would go into a place and say, these people are savages.
And then the next generation, they were like, oh, well, these people are Romans.
It was very simple.
It was a direct one-to-one situation.
And that's why it lasted far longer than the American Empire will last.
Because we...
Believe that we're Americans just by geography, and then murder.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, Alex has a lot of ahistorical ideas about all this shit.
And let's see where the rest of this clip takes us.
alex jones
People that want to be scientific, but the globalists are allied with the very nastiest form of it, and they're using it, and it's a fact, and now it's undeniable.
God bless you.
Sue, thank you.
Powerful call.
Power.
I love you.
All right, Aaron, Devon, Don, Matt, Sean, I'm going to your calls.
Bam, bam, bam.
On the other side of this break.
We do need financial provision.
We sell great products.
Free shipping ends today.
Storewide, InfoWarsStore.com.
jordan holmes
I'll give him that one.
That one wasn't bad.
That wasn't a harsh ad pivot of like, I'm gonna kill everybody!
Also, we're gonna need...
dan friesen
It was clunky.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was clunky, but it was like a, hey, we're gonna get to you, and you, and you, and then we're gonna get to you after you sign up for Autoship.
dan friesen
But you also seem to forget, because we had that conversation, that the beginning of that clip was him saying that Christendom would never fall to Islam without infiltration.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but that's just true.
dan friesen
All right.
But the ad pivot is harsher than it appeared because of when we broke in that clip.
jordan holmes
He had the buffer.
He had the buffer of saying, we're going to get to all your calls.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Generally, he goes from yelling to a hard pivot.
dan friesen
Right, right.
So he pivots there, and he does his ad, and he goes to commercial, and he comes back, and he's in another bit of a commercial.
And this is not good.
alex jones
And support our local affiliates.
Become a sponsor.
Send them $100, $20.
Tithe to the truth.
Tithe to pro-America organizations that are pro-Christian and are actually fighting.
jordan holmes
I think you're actually being blasphemous.
alex jones
There are real churches out there, but not many of them will actually fight.
They all want to keep their 501c3.
The government has no jurisdiction.
They got tricked into that.
You're not a charity.
You're a church.
They can make no law respecting you.
dan friesen
That's not how that works.
alex jones
Again, but we're here battling for the First Amendment.
We're here battling for Christmas.
We're here battling for Christ.
We're here up against the enemy, folks.
So, please think about tithing each month by buying products you need.
jordan holmes
Holy shit!
That's solid.
dan friesen
I was looking through the Bible.
jordan holmes
Do not tithe to the church.
Do not tithe to God.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You tithe to Infowars, my friend.
dan friesen
I was looking through the Bible verses that involve tithing, and pretty universally they're about giving to a church.
jordan holmes
Don't understand.
dan friesen
Alex is really, really close to, like, this is cult stuff.
Like, because what he's doing is framing himself essentially as a defender of Christendom.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he's in a dangerous territory in terms of, like, classifying himself as a journalist when he's really operating as a cult.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The idea of giving 10% of your income to him, even if you get weird pills in return...
New thought.
jordan holmes
New thought.
Alex is going Elrond.
Alex is going for full tax exemption.
dan friesen
He has written a book or two.
jordan holmes
I think Alex is going for Elrond.
I think that's what he's going to try and do.
dan friesen
I think he's doing it accidentally, though.
jordan holmes
Do you think Elrond had a plan?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He was a shitty sci-fi writer who was just scared all the time, and he just kept running.
And eventually he stumbled upon the idea of like, hey, what if we get tax exemption this way?
Because I don't want to pay taxes on my shit books.
dan friesen
I think he had more of a plan than Alex has in that regard.
Although, of course, Alex doesn't believe he should be paying taxes.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
We know that.
jordan holmes
How do you get out of paying taxes?
dan friesen
Church.
jordan holmes
Religion.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So in this next clip, Alex Jones gets into...
I don't even know how to...
jordan holmes
And it's not even hard to make the transition.
I was an info-warrior.
Now I'm an info-worshipper.
Done.
dan friesen
Or onward info-warriors marching into war.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So anyway, this next clip is just weird.
I don't really even know what's going on or how to present this, so enjoy.
alex jones
Look, you've got MS-13 and other Christian gangs killing hundreds of thousands of people in Latin America.
And do we blame Christians for that?
That is, here's the deal.
If you had George Soros and the globalists backing him, I'd be ten times more upset about it.
dan friesen
So, wait.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
dan friesen
I don't really either.
jordan holmes
So didn't he just reveal that it's fine?
Or that he's giving preferential treatment to the atrocities Christians commit as opposed to...
dan friesen
I would be, like, to be perfectly clear.
I don't even care about that element.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I care more about his contextualizing MS-13 as a Christian gang.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, that's fine.
dan friesen
Because, look, I don't want to talk about them, quite frankly, but at the same time, there are more important elements to their operation than Christianity.
Right.
jordan holmes
Just like D12.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Very similar to a Christian gang, but there are more important elements.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So the idea that he's comparing that to, like, an analog of...
ISIS, I guess, is weird, but it also belies a reality, and that is that ISIS isn't strictly motivated by Islam or religious ideology.
There is, and not to say that...
It's all our fault or anything like that, but it's a lot of our fault.
It's all our fault.
There are geopolitical realities and consequences of actions that we've taken in the region and exploiting the populations and killing civilians.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with 100% our fault.
dan friesen
Right, and that is a piece of it.
And whether it's masked by Islam or also informed by Islam, all of that can be true, but there's more to it than that.
The way that Alex says that MS-13 is a Christian gang leads me to believe that he has some awareness.
That the religious aspect of various groups isn't necessarily all they're into.
And I also say that because I don't think that MS-13 goes around preaching Christianity.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with a no on that one.
dan friesen
But be that as it may, the idea that he's like, I'm just mad that Soros is paying him.
And Soros isn't paying ISIS.
jordan holmes
I mean, not even to go...
dan friesen
It's the weirdest thing ever.
jordan holmes
Not even to go that far back, but I would say there's no ISIS without the Iraq War.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
There's no Iraq War without the Cold War.
And there's no Cold War without the CIA-backed overthrow of the liberal regime in Iran.
Like, I would argue that ISIS began whenever America was like...
You guys are really doing great.
How about a religious theocracy instead, though?
Because they're going to pay us oil.
dan friesen
Right.
Realistically, it probably even goes further back than that.
Well, yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, back to whenever the Muslims started the slave trade after the First Crusade.
dan friesen
I mean, it is just short-sighted, to a certain extent, his blame game that he's playing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but that's the way that you deal with foreign policy in order to...
Yeah, well, exactly.
That's the way you deal with foreign policy in order to evade the fact that it's such a complicated system that there's no, like, knife-through-butter solution to it.
dan friesen
There's so many actors involved, and all of them have different motivations, and it's very difficult to get all of them what they're looking for.
jordan holmes
And anybody who throws in anything is going to wind up being an agent of chaos that's going to push everybody else in different directions as well.
dan friesen
And the amount of resources that we have in the world are enough to sustain much larger populations than we even have now.
jordan holmes
Eight rich people.
Nope.
dan friesen
But the issue becomes when you have this population the size that we have with different nations and different places and they all have various distributions of the resources.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You could have everyone living in a utopia to a certain extent if everyone saw it as a non-zero-sum game.
If your loss didn't mean I win, you could have a very compassionate system in the world where, let's say, Bangladesh.
There's a lot of people who live there, and it's impossible for them to survive because of the floodplains and the inability of them to, just based on the soil, to grow crops enough to sustain the populations that they have.
If we looked at that and were like, we should send them food.
We should just do that.
As a world we have excess food around, we should send them food.
If we lived in that system, you could take care of places like that.
But as soon as you introduce anybody who treats things as a zero-sum game, the whole thing gets fucked.
Because then you end up with people who are in Bangladesh, let's say, who are like, oh, there's a ton of food coming in.
Everyone could survive or I could be a king.
And then it becomes a zero-sum game where I have to steal your resources in order to...
Better myself.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that's where we get fucked.
No system can exist where...
No system can successfully exist where people have a different version of what game is being played.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That sucks.
jordan holmes
It's a strange explanation to think, but I think our psychopaths and our serial killers are the same thing as our leaders.
dan friesen
Not far off.
jordan holmes
Like, I think that's kind of the wrench that's been thrown into humanity is always, eventually, if somebody gets enough power, they become divorced from their own connection to everybody else.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
In which case, they isolate themselves, creating a self-reinforcing narrative.
And then, there we go.
Like, every system has eventually been overtaken by that.
Every single time.
Like, maybe humanity just needs to die out and squirrels will become the ultimate survivors of the universe.
Great squirrels.
I'm actually rooting for orcas.
dan friesen
I saw an albino squirrel one time.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Real cool.
jordan holmes
That's amazing.
You know they get attacked by other squirrels?
dan friesen
I imagine.
unidentified
It's crazy.
jordan holmes
They're too cool.
unidentified
And that explains foreign policy.
dan friesen
More or less.
So in this next clip, Alex Jones does a fucked up monologue that I'm certain was cut out of the rebroadcast.
But because I can now record these live, I got it.
And this is fucked up.
alex jones
The globalist great error is to believe that as they collapse humanity, they end up on top.
The truth is, humanity is coming down fast, but we're miles above them on our journey to hell.
dan friesen
What the fuck?
jordan holmes
We're miles above them on our journey to hell.
dan friesen
To hell?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What the fuck is he saying?
jordan holmes
He's saying that we're all going to hell.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But we're like writing them.
To hell.
Like, if you're going to hell, would you rather be the horse or the guy riding the horse?
dan friesen
That does not match up with his worldview in any way.
That's categorically opposed to his worldview that, like, the globalists, we're coming down fast on you as we all rocket to hell.
What the fuck is he saying?
unidentified
That's...
dan friesen
He just...
Wanted to do a cool monologue over Helter Skelter.
jordan holmes
It sounds like a cool monologue.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, that has, like, a I'll see you in hell, but he's kind of, like, trying to put his own spin on it.
dan friesen
Don't get me wrong.
I like the monologue.
jordan holmes
It's not bad.
dan friesen
From a different person.
jordan holmes
It's not bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If you saw that in a Western, you'd be like, that's a pretty badass thing to say.
dan friesen
From a different person, I enjoy it.
Oh, of course.
For him, it's a mess.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So, Alex has another narrative.
That he's pitching.
jordan holmes
If Jeff Bridges said that in his gravelly voice, fuck, you would come.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, like I said, there's another narrative.
And I'll give you the broad strokes of it.
There is a measure that's being discussed in Philadelphia that would involve taking down bulletproof glass in bodegas and convenience stores and what have you.
jordan holmes
That's interesting.
I don't know anything about that.
I have no take yet.
Give me more details.
dan friesen
And let me tell you.
That's the only information he gives on the show.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Now let's listen to him give a take on it, and then I will explain what the actual story is.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, you told me that, and I've never been more like...
I don't have an instant take.
I've got no idea whether this is good or bad in my life.
dan friesen
Right, because it's one of those things.
It's like, well, I know the convenience stores do get robbed a lot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I know it seems like it would be unsafe.
Yeah, Alex, you're kind of making a decent point until you realize he's just lying about everything.
unidentified
But hold on.
dan friesen
We'll get to that in a second.
alex jones
And it's the same thing in all these other Democrat globalists-run cesspools like New York, Chicago, Philadelphia.
The list goes on and on.
Draconian gun bills, banning all the guns.
Then there's crime everywhere, and they say, you can't have plexiglass.
You can't have anything.
If we want to stab you, if we want to kill you, it's going to happen.
Because we don't like your businesses.
You're exploitive because you're selling beer.
It's your fault you sell beer that people are robbing and killing and stealing.
That's what you call not taking responsibility.
That's what you call being a black, racist, democrat woman that doesn't like Asians and others that dare come into a neighborhood that's dangerous and set up a business, so you claim they're exploitive, so most folks are leaving, so there's not even any type of food or stores anywhere, and then you bitch about that some more!
unidentified
Because that's all you do, Globalist, is bitch and bitch and bitch and bitch!
So, what do you think?
Uh...
jordan holmes
I want to go on the same hypocrisy rant from earlier, but my God.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Him complaining about other people bitching.
I can't.
dan friesen
It's pretty wild.
jordan holmes
I can't.
Also, what was he complaining about?
dan friesen
Guns grabbing.
So liberals want you to get stabbed.
Yes.
So the way he's presenting it is that there are these...
You know, stores in bad areas of town.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And they are, you know, they're taking a risk in bringing commerce into bad areas.
And this taking down bulletproof glass will de-incentivize them having these businesses in places where there would be no business otherwise.
He's basically trying to complain, I think, about food deserts.
But at the same time, he's losing the thread and screaming about all sorts of other stuff.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
Now.
jordan holmes
As is his want.
dan friesen
He's wrong about the story.
jordan holmes
I am shocked.
dan friesen
I'm going to read to you from ABC6 in Philadelphia about this.
Governor Tom Wolf was in Philadelphia on Thursday to sign a bill that would enforce stricter penalties on so-called stop-and-go stores that break the law.
Lawmakers say that these alcohol establishments have become a nuisance in the city.
Some of the stores advertise cheesesteaks, hoagies, and Chinese food, but actually just sell beer and shots of alcohol to go.
We went to one such store that wasn't serving food at all.
When we asked why, we were told, quote, the cook's not here yet.
jordan holmes
Love it.
dan friesen
An undercover action news investigation found most of the shops operate using a restaurant license to sell little besides booze.
Quote, we're not cooking today, one shop owner said.
When asked why, he said...
We don't feel like it.
jordan holmes
Love it.
dan friesen
Councilwoman Cindy Bass took us on a tour and says she has more stop and goes in her district than public schools, sometimes right next to each other.
Clearly, this is less than 500 feet from an elementary school, she said of one such shop.
Many of these stop-and-go bars also sell candy for kids right alongside intoxicated customers.
jordan holmes
That's fantastic.
dan friesen
You'll have children in line to buy candy at the same time you have adults in line to buy shots of alcohol.
jordan holmes
I am in love.
Are you shitting me?
dan friesen
They're supposed to meet minimum requirements, including food, seating for three, and access to bathrooms.
Quote, they have no place to go to the bathroom, so they're doing it all over the street, said resident Jane Barnes.
jordan holmes
Less on that team.
dan friesen
Quote, we ain't used the bathroom since like 1995, said resident Jeremiah Thomas.
Most stop and goes we visited had their chairs locked up behind glass enclosures, leaving...
Alright, now I'm seeing the danger.
Quote, Nobody should have to see this in their neighborhood, Harris said.
And Bass introduced a resolution to tighten the city's requirements to get a liquor license.
Quote, So the issue at hand with the plexiglass and the bulletproof glass is that these organizations, these stop-and-go shops, they're exploiting a loophole in the liquor license, wherein instead of selling packaged liquor, what they're doing is they're pretending they're a restaurant and then just never selling food.
And what they do is they have all their stuff behind bulletproof glass, where it's like, technically, we have seating for 30 people, just no one's allowed to sit down.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And so what this would do is create a more sensible way to be like, okay, you don't have this license.
Because that is dangerous.
jordan holmes
I disagree.
No, no, no.
I mean, I agree with you in that it is dangerous.
I disagree with this law, and I think it's stupid.
I think what they're doing...
dan friesen
I'm on the fence about it, but I want to be totally clear that the way Alex is presenting it is a lie.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, absolutely.
I agree with you there.
dan friesen
I'm on the fence about it because I think it would be really fun to go stop somewhere and get a shot.
jordan holmes
I know!
unidentified
That's the...
jordan holmes
Like, why do you gotta ruin something great, guys?
dan friesen
At the same time, have a bathroom.
jordan holmes
But here's the real issue.
dan friesen
That's what a bar is.
That's kind of what a bar is.
jordan holmes
Here's the real issue.
They are criminalizing being poor.
Once again.
That's what that law is.
dan friesen
I disagree.
jordan holmes
You're not dealing with the reality of the reason that those places show up.
Do you see those places in a white affluent fucking neighborhood?
dan friesen
Generally not.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
No, I understand that.
jordan holmes
You're putting a band-aid on a...
It's like every time cancer metastasizes, you just like...
Flick a new little cancer thing away.
That's bullshit.
They're not dealing with the actual underlying issue.
dan friesen
Totally.
Totally.
But it might be a good way to begin dealing with it.
jordan holmes
I disagree.
dan friesen
I agree with you.
At the same time, I get it from a legislative perspective.
jordan holmes
No, I totally get it.
unidentified
It makes sense.
jordan holmes
I totally get it.
dan friesen
You don't want, in your constituency, especially in your schools, you don't want open booze and a place where you can just stop in and buy shots of shit and then piss on the street.
You don't want that.
And giving the liquor board the authority to not give that sort of license to those places makes sense.
Or, if they want to have that license...
Then they should live up to the, you have a bathroom, you have a place people can sit down, like a bar, because you're acting like a bar, but you're conveniently having all the other stuff taken away from it.
jordan holmes
I agree with you.
I agree with you 100%.
In a vacuum, that is a sensible solution.
In reality, what you're doing is playing whack-a-mole, and you're doing it poorly.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
And if that's what Alex's complaint was, it would be more interesting.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, no.
I left Alex behind a million years ago.
What are you talking about?
Alex is insane.
What is he fucking talking about?
dan friesen
I mean, he's in an information war with no information.
But if that was his complaint, then this show would be a lot more interesting.
Because I think we can agree to some extent that there are other issues at play that are more important.
jordan holmes
That's the thing.
dan friesen
I still support the legislation as it stands, I think.
jordan holmes
You know, I actually might disagree with you there.
I'm not sure about that yet.
unidentified
That's fair.
jordan holmes
Because I don't know the particulars.
dan friesen
That's fair.
jordan holmes
But I think this ultimately comes back to my argument against giving a shit about what conservatives say.
Because in this regard, right, if Alex and I started from the basis of like, okay, this is a problem.
We know what the real problem is.
The question is, how do we solve it?
If the conservative answer is we solve this by changing this policy and rewriting this law.
But my answer is, well, we solve it by doing this.
Then we can talk about coming to agreement on it.
But if his response to this legislation...
Is they're trying to make sure everybody gets murdered.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There's no conversation to be had there.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That is something that needs to be disregarded and tossed aside.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He is nothing.
dan friesen
Even the security concerns were addressed in another article that I read.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the lady who proposed this legislation, I really feel bad that I don't have her name pulled up.
But the issue that she brings up is like...
I understand that people would think that this would have a negative impact on security, but you have to understand that there are bars and restaurants in bad areas of town that don't have issues with their employees being assaulted.
And there are ways that you can encourage better customer behavior, security cameras, that sort of thing.
jordan holmes
See, then we get back to you're trying to legislate poor people's behavior without dealing with the problem, which is that they're poor.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You've fucked them up and you've left them behind.
dan friesen
Much bigger issue.
But in the meantime, it's not legislating poor people's behavior to legislate ways to not have people get assaulted.
Legislating against violent crimes isn't necessarily the reasonable argument that we should have about legislating against poor people.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Be that as it may.
jordan holmes
I agree with you.
dan friesen
Too far down the rabbit hole.
jordan holmes
You and I are not going to solve this tonight.
dan friesen
That's my line.
jordan holmes
It is something that I do think is indicative of my issue with every, like, do Trump voters think differently about Trump right now?
I don't care.
They mean nothing until they understand what the problem is.
Until then, fucking go away.
dan friesen
Right.
The bottom line where we can find agreement is that...
Alex is wrong.
jordan holmes
Alex is wrong!
dan friesen
And his narrative is a lie.
He's lying to his audience.
jordan holmes
Alex is so wrong, I started talking about a different problem.
dan friesen
Right.
So, we only got a couple more clips here, and towards the end of Alex's time on the broadcast, because like I said, there's a cliffhanger.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He has an interview with Lucian, whatever the fuck, crispy white name.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's a writer for Gateway Pundit who recently had a video that went viral on the internet.
He was giving a speech.
I can't remember the university.
I think it was Yale, maybe.
I don't know.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And there were a bunch of people who were booing him and being, you know, they're like, we don't want you here.
That sort of thing.
Because his speech was titled, It's Okay to Be One.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, I read about that guy.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He's a pile of shit.
dan friesen
What ended up happening is a lady came up and was talking to him at the podium, and she took his notes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then he more or less manhandled her.
jordan holmes
Couldn't understand.
dan friesen
Grabbed her, and to be fair, if this was basketball...
It would be a situation where, like, he's going for the ball.
You know, that sort of thing?
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
That sort of thing?
jordan holmes
So you're calling this a flagrant one, not a flagrant two, not a flagrant one.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
I gotcha.
dan friesen
It's maybe not pass interference or whatever.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
But the way he treated her...
jordan holmes
Two shots and the ball.
dan friesen
The way he treated her was not, I just want my stuff back.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It was absolutely an aggressive, violent grabbing of her and tossing.
In a way that I think everyone can agree, even though she did take his notes.
I agree with that.
That is true.
You can see that in the video.
His behavior is absolutely unjustified.
Especially considering that there was a security guard cop right there that he could have said, she took my notes.
Give me back my notes.
jordan holmes
She acted like a child, and he acted like a violent monster.
dan friesen
Right.
So Alex has him on the show to talk about how the left is crazy, and here's Alex's take on it.
jordan holmes
I don't think I want to hear it.
alex jones
There's an article on gatewaypundit.com about this.
Lucian Wintrich, I appreciate you joining us.
Fill this in for us, and we'll roll some of this video again with audio for folks.
But again, it looks like to me...
You had been robbed under common law and local law and you name it.
You didn't punch her.
You didn't hit her.
You simply grabbed her backpack and then tried to get your paperwork in your hand, your speech.
She tried to literally, metaphysically, but also physically, both archetypally and physically, steal your free speech away.
Incredible.
unidentified
Thanks for having me, Alex.
I took reasonable action to regain my property.
dan friesen
This is libertarian.
This is libertarianship.
This is libertarian shit.
jordan holmes
Fuck you!
dan friesen
And the way that I said earlier that there was a security guard there who could have easily de-escalated the situation and gotten him his notes back.
Libertarians have a belief that it's wrong that the police have a monopoly on force or whatever, and they don't believe that authority needs to...
She took my stuff under common law.
I can attack her and what have you.
It's just nonsense.
jordan holmes
It doesn't work.
unidentified
Alex is like...
jordan holmes
Under the law, you didn't punch her, you didn't hit her, so you're fine.
dan friesen
He did, though.
I mean, it's not a punch, but he assaulted her.
jordan holmes
But the idea that that's fine.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Like, no, you can...
It's not just punch and hit.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Like, there's a whole...
Like, if you put her in a headlock, that is also assault.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, and it is.
jordan holmes
Like, that's physically assault still.
unidentified
It is.
dan friesen
And to be fair, I mean, strictly speaking, she shouldn't have taken his shit.
That's not right either.
But in the grand scheme of things, the idea of taking one's notes and violently accosting someone, I think there's a hierarchy there, and that's worse.
So anyway, they talk a bunch of bullshit about how liberals are stupid and that standard stuff.
And then...
Lucian whatever his fucking name is says something.
jordan holmes
His name is Lucian?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Winthrop or something like that.
Fuck you!
It's real white.
jordan holmes
That's the whitest name.
dan friesen
That's why he's giving a speech called It's Okay to be White.
jordan holmes
Lucian is the name of the Malfoy.
Lucian Malfoy.
dan friesen
He looks like him too.
jordan holmes
He is a fucking Slytherin.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So here is him saying something that is...
It borders on you couldn't be wronger.
jordan holmes
If your name was Lucian, you would change it, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, listen to Lucian here.
He could not be further from on point.
unidentified
I fully agree.
And, you know, I think the globalists and the left in this country, they are terrified that when other citizens that they've previously swayed over actually hear us talk, are actually able to hear our opinions and the facts that we demonstrate, as you do every day on your show, that we will win them over.
That's why they try to prevent us from speaking.
It's not the content.
They're terrified that the content will win over other Americans because we're the only ones dealing in facts and rationality.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Of course!
dan friesen
That's such a fun narrative.
jordan holmes
You know what?
dan friesen
I mean, our podcast speaks to how that's not true.
jordan holmes
Every time I come on this podcast, my real fear is that Alex is going to win me back.
dan friesen
You know what?
We joked about that for like two episodes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we had a long run.
I'm scared.
I'm scared that the more I listen to Alex, the more I'm going to come to him.
dan friesen
I mean, to some extent, I do agree, though, that what underpins what he's talking about is true.
I do worry about people hearing these things and being overwhelmed with the emotional appeals that are in them.
The idea of white fear, the idea of all these things, Christian fear that Alex espouses, I do worry about people being swayed by those things.
But that is the content.
That is why I am opposed to it.
It's not that I'm worried that you guys are so logical that I can't deconstruct whatever it is you're lying about.
It's the lamest fucking thing ever.
And it's the way Cernovich operates.
It's the way Posobiec operates.
It's all these dudes.
You know what it is?
It's branding.
It's branding of logic.
It's branding of we use facts.
You guys operate on emotion.
jordan holmes
That is exactly right.
dan friesen
It's so not true.
jordan holmes
Do you know...
Every time they talk about a political campaign insofar as like, oh, there's going to be 40% who's on the left and there's going to be 40% on the right, and your job is to figure out the 20% in the middle.
And the right has done something way smarter than what we have, and they've realized that the middle doesn't mean anything.
What they're going for is the uninformed.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So when we talk about...
dan friesen
Because that's part of the other 40, too.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
We're afraid not of people on the left responding to this shit.
If you're on the left, you fucking get most of it, at least.
dan friesen
You'd hope.
jordan holmes
We're afraid of people who aren't paying attention who show up and all of a sudden hear your bullshit and think, oh, that makes sense.
If you are an info warrior, it's not because you were on the left and you got turned.
It was because you were kind of not, Yeah, I agree.
dan friesen
So anyway.
Fuck Lucian.
jordan holmes
Fuck anybody named Lucian.
dan friesen
I told you.
jordan holmes
Look, I know maybe a dozen people named Lucian that I like.
unidentified
No, you don't.
dan friesen
Oh, I get it.
jordan holmes
They're fucking fine!
dan friesen
Jordan, I have to piss.
jordan holmes
Let me finish a bit.
dan friesen
I have to piss really bad.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
And we have one more clip.
So.
jordan holmes
So we got a hard end time.
dan friesen
So we are going to rush through the Rapaport bit at the end of this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Alright.
dan friesen
But I told you.
jordan holmes
Fuck you, John Rapaport.
And then we can just end it up.
dan friesen
Preemptively.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I told you there was a cliffhanger.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I don't have to pee so bad that we can't live in this.
Because this cliffhanger is insane.
jordan holmes
Such a professional broadcast.
dan friesen
So, earlier, Alex is super mad at the college columnist.
Of course.
From San Wherever.
jordan holmes
He's the worst.
dan friesen
Alex has dispatched Owen Schroyer.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
To go to that campus.
jordan holmes
I'm afraid he's going to turn the columnist to their side.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
With his facts.
dan friesen
Owen Schroer is down on the campus, and the intention that they had was Alex was going to go to him live, and it was, you know, Owen Schroer is the cuck slayer.
He's the guy who goes out.
He got the job at Infowars because of videos that he posted on YouTube where he would go and argue with people, college liberals, and what have you, and he'd just use manipulative debate tactics.
And what have you, and just bully people.
jordan holmes
What about, what about, what about, what about...
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, you know, that's how he got his job, and so that should be his strength.
But it seems more and more, every time he goes out...
flipped off by a little kid or something.
Or he went out for that Antifa November 4th thing that was just a huge bust.
He's a disaster.
He can't hold his own the way that Alex needs him to, and he's not good on the war room either.
Alex is losing faith in him and you can see it in this clip because Owen Schroer, they go to the video and they can't play the audio because these people are just swearing at him.
Yeah.
unidentified
But at the same time, Alex presents it as like, He's under attack.
dan friesen
That kind of thing.
It's not.
He's just having a bad argument with a couple people.
Right.
And listen to this shit.
alex jones
Again, the feed is on The Real Alex Jones there on Twitter and Facebook.
I've tweeted it.
At Real Alex Jones, you've got white knight folks busting in on Owen right now, acting aggressive, like proving, hey, we ain't whites too.
I mean, you know, you watch it.
dan friesen
That's the bit you want to do.
alex jones
We're here to virtue signal.
And so, I mean, I was hearing it earlier.
We're not running the audio right now because it could be cussing.
They've got the mic running again.
But this is absolute incredible garbage.
I've got to direct what's going on.
I'm going to go to rebroadcast actually to find out what's going on.
Owen needs my help.
I may have to get down there right now.
Give me the video list.
We're going to air some stuff.
I'll figure out what's going on.
Get all the engineers in there right now.
We're going to find out exactly what's going on here.
I gotta go down there and help Owen.
These people are being really aggressive.
And it's white thugs coming up in his face like, because how dare you not like to cover the paper saying whites are inherently evil?
We're gonna prove we hate white people!
You got that, buddy?
dan friesen
They're not saying that.
alex jones
And the black guys are laughing how sick this is, man.
I am so sick of this PSYOP.
Give me a video list, guys.
I'm so sick of this garbage.
Just bring me a video list.
dan friesen
So right now, we've got a little bit left of this clip, but right now what he's doing is like, I need to get off air, but I don't fucking know any of the videos we have queued up.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know anything.
jordan holmes
I'm going to run.
dan friesen
I want to leave this desk right now.
He might be like me.
He might have to piss.
jordan holmes
He might have to go.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Bring me a video list.
Because I'm getting so upset, I've got to go help him.
I've got to get in the car and go down there, actually.
Get the equipment ready.
Get everything ready.
I'm going down there.
Get everything ready.
Because if I can't have audio, I'll go down there myself.
Come on, let me have the thing.
I've got to go down there and see what's going on.
Okay, let's go ahead and air this.
He's there anyways.
This is James O 'Keefe.
I'll be going to the next hour, folks.
This is James O 'Keefe, exclusive interview with Millie Weber.
dan friesen
Great.
So then he just throws it to a video.
jordan holmes
And then he just leaves.
dan friesen
He leaves.
And they play a couple of videos.
And, like, this is half an hour before he was supposed to get off air.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Like, this is two and a half hours into his show.
Rappaport's doing the fourth hour.
jordan holmes
Rappaport can't do an hour and a half.
dan friesen
No, certainly not.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Speaking of which, I gotta be honest, John Rappaport ends up spending most of his time talking about how he knows the Russia shit is fake.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So here's what I want to say about that.
His argument that I didn't pull.
First of all, hilarious.
Alex Jones is pretending something.
I think my argument that he's lost faith in Owen Schroyer is much more on point than he needs to shit.
I think it's more like, fuck.
jordan holmes
Look, somebody's gotta take this.
I gotta help him out.
I gotta help him out.
I gotta get down there.
dan friesen
He's gonna create an embarrassing video.
This is gonna be a disaster.
I've gotta go yell myself.
I have to do everything around here?
That kind of thing.
That's more what's going on.
But Rappaport comes in.
And he knows that the Russia shit is whack.
Because if Russia had flipped Donald Trump, that would be the greatest secret ever.
And no one would talk about it.
So the idea that Christopher Steele, who's a longtime spy, would have contacts that would be like, oh yeah, also, you know, Trump's compromised.
That sort of thing.
He's like, no one would ever talk about that.
So ergo, it's all a lie.
I don't believe him.
At the same time, if you're playing that game and using that logic...
jordan holmes
Obama was born in Kenya.
dan friesen
Well, that's one.
But then also, let's use that logic and apply it to, you know, we fund ISIS.
If that were true, that would be the greatest secret ever.
No one would talk about that.
Ergo, all of Alex's mysterious secret sources couldn't possibly be saying that because they wouldn't know that.
jordan holmes
Or we sell guns to...
Or we turned over...
Or we supported the coup of...
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
So, I mean, like, that argument is soft as hell.
jordan holmes
No, that's a nonsense argument.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It doesn't make it...
That's an argument you can use for anything.
dan friesen
Everything.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Rappaport does his...
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, if you really had to pee, based on how professional our broadcasting skills are, there's no way you would talk about it on air.
dan friesen
Well, it's a bit.
It's a psyop.
jordan holmes
It's a psyop to get people to think that we don't have a hard end time.
dan friesen
Actually, I was just trying to come up with my own cliffhanger.
Does he pee?
jordan holmes
Does he pee at all?
dan friesen
I stuck around and tried to watch some more and see if Alex shows up in Owen Schroyer's video, but I was just so bored.
jordan holmes
That'd be hilarious.
dan friesen
So we'll see tomorrow.
Maybe they'll have some videos of Alex down on that Texas campus.
jordan holmes
That'd be fun.
dan friesen
Anyway, for now, that's been the show.
jordan holmes
In the meantime...
dan friesen
I mean, we learned a lot here.
jordan holmes
If you want to see tomorrow what will happen yesterday...
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Huh?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
If you would like us to eat your brains with a spoon while you still have your visual cortex...
jordan holmes
Oh, well, then in that case, you'd email knowledgefight at gmail.com.
dan friesen
Sure, you wouldn't want to go to our website, knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
No, we don't eat brains on that website.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
Oh, shit.
Sweet.
Our talent booker, Burrito, just has informed the chat room that he has gotten in touch with the columnist.
unidentified
And he says he was willing to be interviewed.
dan friesen
We might have to do a special episode tomorrow.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Okay.
We'll chat about this later, Burrito.
This is very exciting.
So, also...
unidentified
We're on Twitter?
Apparently we have an amazing talent booker.
jordan holmes
We're on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fights.
dan friesen
Correct.
We're on Facebook.
jordan holmes
If you wanted to go to iTunes, you would be able to download our podcast.
dan friesen
Yeah, you can subscribe.
jordan holmes
You could do that.
You could leave a review.
dan friesen
All sorts of things you can do.
jordan holmes
If you wanted to get the fuck out of this podcast real quick, what would you say, Dan?
dan friesen
Well, see, John Rappaport has some ideas about Russia.
And I'll say, more or less, he can just go fuck himself.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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