Knowledge Fight - #103: January 17, 2016

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#103: January 17, 2016

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Knowledge Fight’s #103 dissects Alex Jones’ January 17, 2016, broadcast, where he falsely ties the NFL to "social engineering," misrepresents Milgram’s obedience study (wrong voltages, exaggerated reactions), and peddles debunked claims—like CIA-funded ugly art or human-animal chimeras for organ harvesting—while ignoring scientific consensus. He also spins Infowars’ bot-driven traffic surge as proof of globalist attacks, conflates China’s abandoned social credit system with the "Mark of the Beast," and weaponizes biblical prophecy to demonize pre-tribulation rapture believers, framing Trump’s rise as divine intervention. The hosts expose his erratic logic and pseudoscientific rants, revealing a pattern of conspiracy-mongering that thrives on misinformation and unchecked paranoia. [Automatically generated summary]
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Speaker	Time	Text
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a first-time caller.
		I'm a huge fan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Today we're drinking nice sparkling water.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That seems to be a go-to to a certain extent.
		They're cheap.
		They're tasty.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We did plenty of drinking last night, so maybe no drinks today.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Went out to a shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A couple shit bars.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We went out to, I think, three or four shit bars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was not great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I know nothing about Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the premise of the show.
		I know a lot about him.
		You don't know anything about him.
		And we try and work through his weirdness.
unidentified		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just to anybody who's keeping track, we did play a game of Scrabble last night out at the bar, but it was non-canonical.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it did not count.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was non-canonical.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was a bad Scrabble game from the jump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because we were furious that our food took maybe an hour to get it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Forever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Forever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To make it this shit bar.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's not like we got complicated food.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You put it in a fryer and then hand it to us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Mots, sticks, and fries.
		Yeah.
		And also, I mean, we should have known.
		There was vomit right outside the bars.
		We should have known.
unidentified		Let's hard pass on this bar.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But anyway, we are here.
		We were drinking fizzy water, which is delicious.
		And we are thrilled to be back on this here, Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's been a while since we recorded.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it feels like forever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to say a couple things really quick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		First, I don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't go to Parrot's Bar on Halstead.
unidentified		I was hoping you would keep it bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mentioned this last night, and it's one of those things that I really, really hate about bars, some bars, that have big open windows to the street.
		I think that some people of a certain persuasion, certain type, they have a performative aspect to their nights out.
		It's the people who get really dressed up and they want to be seen and look like they're having fun more than actually having fun.
		And there was a large group of people that were spending most of the time there at the pool table.
		You wanted to play pool.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we couldn't because of them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they were like doing, they were just overhyping how much fun they were having.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They were acting like they were in a Dave and Busters commercial.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was exactly that.
		And I know it's because there's a huge window to the street there.
		They knew that people could watch them having fun.
		Right.
		It was pathetic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They might as well have been sponsored by the bar.
		Like, go hang out in this window and everybody will be like, holy shit, this place is fun.
		Yeah, and then you go into the bar and you're like, this is the saddest place in the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You just want mozzarella stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just want my fucking mozzarella dicks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I mean, my theory that these people were dicks was like very well established by when they came over and a guy lectured you about low fives.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, that's right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck, I forgot that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We were trying to just play Scrabble, mind our own business, wait for our food, and some guy came over and you gave your girlfriend a low five.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he was like, no.
unidentified		What are you doing?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Low fives in here?
		No, you give high fives.
		And it's like, why are you still alive?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like, at what point do you think this is a friendship startup?
		Is that what's going on?
		Are you trying to be a dick or do you think this is going to be an icebreaker?
		What's going on?
		Like, I don't understand that mentality in people.
		I fucking, I just don't get it.
		I don't connect with people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What would the ice ball?
		How would that break the ice?
		Just like, oh, low fives are bad?
		You sound like the most interesting man in the world.
		You must talk to you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're not doing it in a book.
		Yeah.
		And that's why we talked about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have you heard about the protocols of the Elders of Zion?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We had very different approaches to dealing with this guy, too, because you were kind of like, ah, you're an asshole.
		And my approach was, ha ha!
		Like, very over-the-top fake laughing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Neither worked.
		I think it's fair to say if you've listened to our show, you understood the dynamic of how we reacted to it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		So those weren't the things I wanted to say.
		I wanted to say that on our Facebook page right now, and we started at the end of last week, started to post a lot more blog content about Alex Jones in the immediate.
		So when I'm listening to the episodes, I'm cutting clips and writing up, debunking articles about fucked up things he says in real time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I appreciate everybody who's liked them and shared them.
		But what I want to say is that if you are interested in the show, I would really appreciate it if you could go and share them.
		It makes such a big difference in terms of Facebook's algorithms.
		And it's not one of these Alex Jones things where they're censoring us.
		It's just how it works.
		If you have a fan page or whatever, your content doesn't get pushed to all your fans unless you pay for it.
		But you can organically get around that through three or four or five people sharing things.
		The ball starts rolling.
		It gets shown to a wider range of people.
		And that would be a massive help in terms of getting the word out about things that we think are important about Alex Jones.
		So if you could do that, I appreciate it.
		But at the same time, if you don't want to, don't do it.
		Because I understand what it's like.
		I don't want to share a bunch of stuff on my page.
		I don't want my page getting cluttered up with a bunch of crazy people talking about Alex Jones.
		And if that's where you're at, I understand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And frankly, if that's not where you're at, who are you?
		What's going on?
		Are you okay?
		Do you need to call us?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I feel like you're talking to me now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was trying to stealthily do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's fair.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I appreciate that.
		That would be wonderful.
		And yeah, anyway, let's get on to it.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's get down to business.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I thought you said there were a few things you wanted to talk about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it was the.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that was just one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because it was a compound thing.
		It was the, if you want to share the stuff, please do.
		And also the second thing was, if you don't want to, I totally understand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't count as two things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it does.
		I disagree.
		In my head, it's very separate.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anyways, don't go to Parrot's Bar on Hall Saturday.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the third thing I wanted to talk about.
		Oh, no, the other thing is I wanted to give a shout out to our new policy wonk.
		We got a new donation.
unidentified		Oh, shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We got a new policy wonk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We did, so I'd like to give this one out to you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's going on out there, Ryan?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much for joining up with the team.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And if you're Paul Ryan, go fuck yourself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he would call himself Ryan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, after you find out that Kevin Durant had multiple Twitter accounts to fucking attack people who made fun of his, who knows?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anything is possible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What if Paul Ryan is a self-hating Republican?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm certain he is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So if you want to become a policy wonk, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the Sports Show button.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now we've done all kinds of business here with the top five minutes of the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And thank you very much, Ryan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, thank you.
		We appreciate it.
		Keeps the lights on.
		Low five.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not in my house, god damn it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is my house first.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Then, yes, sir, I will give you a low five.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to propose a metaphorical high five for the fact that today we are back in the past.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, thank God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The most recent shows of Alex's have not been fun and not really all that interesting because he's mostly just going hard at Al Franken.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And quite frankly, I don't disagree.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm fine with it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if Al Franken's assaulting people, then absolutely he should step down.
		And I don't think he gets a pass in any way.
		Alex is presenting it as like these liberals won't call their own to task.
		I'm like, fuck off.
		Everyone hates Lena Dunham.
		Everybody is mad at Al Franken.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they're mad at him in a much more complicated way than Republicans seem possible of achieving.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In that there's disappointment.
		And you, sorry, you fucked up.
		You've got to go.
unidentified		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the disappointment of like you had done some good things in the Senate.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You seemed like you were, you know, he's real sharp in a lot of categories in terms of grilling people about climate change and what have you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's been very publicly helpful towards the cause of towards just women.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's unfortunate, but the reality is the reality.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And people on the left are dealing with reality.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Maybe what we should do is never give men any sort of power because chances are they're going to abuse it.
		Especially towards women.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Extreme vetting.
		Perhaps.
		I don't know.
		It's super complicated.
		The way Alex is dealing with it isn't based in reality, and it's just trying to score points.
		And the whole time, he's just talking with all these people about Roy Moore, and his whole perspective is it's weird.
unidentified		What?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like, no, Now is not the time to talk about age of consent laws.
		First off, second, he absolutely raped a girl.
		You know it, and I know it.
		That happened.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there was that accuser who came out and said that he basically grabbed her head through to his crutch after driving her to a darkened part of a parking lot.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's not weird.
		No.
		That's criminal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a crime.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a weird crime.
		Maybe.
		I might give you that one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's possible that you could take credit for that.
		Anyway, I do have one thing I wanted to play.
		This is sort of an out-of-context drop.
		This is from the November 16th show.
		So this is from the present.
		And it's Alex trying to score points about his sexual tastes.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's interesting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Porn.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Take porn.
unidentified		I will.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I can't even watch it anymore.
		And I'm not going to sit up for their audience and be fake and say I've never seen porn.
		I literally.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know what I like?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I like typing in pin-up girls from the 50s.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I'll just sit there for like an hour on my computer looking at women as pin-up girls.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's weird.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Or like a waitress in a cute skirt and cute outfit.
		Like a woman cute and happy.
		That's what I like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's really weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's, I mean, there's a lot of things to unpack there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I trust someone who likes hardcore porn way more than someone who stares at pin-ups for hours because he's talking about it in a sexual context.
		Yeah, of course.
		And like, let's be clear.
		Like, the fetishizing of pin-up girls and that sort of aesthetic often is maybe a fetishization of women without power.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like an era where women were very subservient and submissive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think there's some weird elements there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the idea that he'd be sitting there for an hour, just like, ah, look at that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like it's very much an uncomplicated, like, I like women who cannot talk back, who only smile and who are never, ever mad at me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You ever fuck a mannequin?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever fucked a mannequin?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine with fucking a mannequin leg.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've not had a blow-up doll, or as my friend Sal from Columbia, Missouri would say, a blow-up fuck doll.
		He's the guy who owned the bar ace to do my comedy show.
		One night he decided he was going to do a set.
		I'm like, fuck you.
		Oh, of course you are.
		No, no, he's great.
		He's a hilarious former New Jersey pipe fitter.
		He's an awesome guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, now I'm back on board.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he called himself the Wolfman Sack.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm super on board.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is his character.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want a million of him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so he gets on stage and he's like, hey, you know what?
		You ever have one of these blow-up fuck dolls?
		His set is just maybe 10 minutes of him saying blow up fuck doll repeatedly.
		Like, I love it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, like, that's always the best part.
		That's the best part of any kind of open mic is, look, people who are working on jokes, fine.
		I'm happy for you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Lunatics, now I'm excited.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's the good kind of lunatic, to be fair.
		In all fairness, we ran into some of the other sorts, and they don't deserve to be discussed.
		Nah.
		So let's move back into 2016, Jordan.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're in January 2016.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We last left off, I believe, on the 11th or something.
unidentified		When last we left our hero.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		After the 11th, there's a string of boring fucking shows.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because Alex, it comes out that Chris Carter is rebooting the X-Files.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's restarting the X-Files, and one of the characters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The football player?
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not the Vikings receiver.
		Okay.
		The guy who created the X-Files.
		And one of the characters in the new X-Files was loosely based on Alex Jones.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I recall that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He, in an interview, says that Alex Jones isn't what he would consider to be super right-wing.
		He's more of a libertarian.
		And Alex takes that to be a big positive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
		That is what it is.
		You know, whatever.
		Yeah.
		But Alex, for like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think we would beg to differ, but okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't matter to me, really.
		The categorization isn't the most important thing.
		Fair.
		But he goes on for about two days talking about how the X-Files is the biggest show of all time.
		And even they know that Alex Jones is right about everything.
		That's why they're putting him in the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's friends with Dean Haglund, one of the guys from The Lone Gunman.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I take it he hasn't seen it.
		That's it.
		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was still like in promotion, or they had just maybe wrapped filming or something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The mail hadn't even started on his own.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because it's beginning of 2016, so I think it had like maybe was about to air or something like that.
		But he goes on and on and on for like two days straight just about how like the X-Files loves me.
		Chris Carter's a patriot.
		We're going to get him on the show.
		Best show of all time.
		And then he talks about Dean Haglund, the guy from The Lone Gunman, the spin-off of The X-Files.
		Okay.
		And how one of the episodes, the CIA had contacted the Lone Gunman writers and told them to write 9-11 as a plot in the show in order to prematurely inoculate the public from thinking it was fake.
		Because it couldn't have been fake.
		I mean, it was in this episode.
		The odds of that are fucking crazy.
		I'm like, I don't want to do this.
		I'm just listening to the episodes.
		I'm like, I don't want to do this.
unidentified		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fuck this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then David Knight hosts a couple days.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Definitely don't want to do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I jumped ahead to the next day that was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can you imagine?
		What if we did a David Knight episode?
		Would that even work?
		I feel like that wouldn't even work for us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think the audience would revolt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think we would revolt.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We would lose our walks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think we would try and record the episode and then halfway through rage quit like an online video game player.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's possible.
		I think we'd lose all of our donations.
		Our will to live.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is amazing that David Knight hasn't done the same to InfoWars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He knows his job.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He knows his place.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So what we ended up having to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's like a well-trained dog.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want to stress this.
		I mean this sincerely.
		Because our last episode that we covered was like on the 11th or the 12th, today's episode we're covering January 17th.
		Don't think that that doesn't mean I still had to listen to 15 hours of Alex Jones for nothing.
		15 hours that we're not going to be covering at all.
		I still listen to that shit.
		But it took me all that time to get to the 17th of January, 2016.
		And boy, was it worth it.
		There are a couple things that we're going to find out on this show that are huge in terms of proving some theories that we've had about Alex.
		Okay.
		And then beyond that, he's crazy.
unidentified		Yay!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a Sunday show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So we're going to start some soft narratives.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what's about to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not especially.
		It's not one of those Sunday shows.
		It's one of the Sunday shows where he knows that the audience is the smaller and more engaged audience.
		And so he feels free to let it rip.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think he thinks he's a preacher also in this episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sounds good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we're going to start with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We like that one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not bad in terms of the.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I mean, he's a little bit of an esoteric preacher.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Especially when he's really, really wrong about what he's preaching about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, we'll find out if that's the case.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I imagine it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is mad at sports today.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's where he begins the broadcast, so we'll join him here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're on the 17th, right around Super Bowl territory.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		February, beginning of February was the Super Bowl in 2016.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so we're in the playoffs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're at the playoffs.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		And Alex has some thoughts.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to be honest with you, I'm not as manly as a lot of the people out there who are going to be watching the Seahawks and the Carolina Panthers coming up here in a little while.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In fact, I'm so unmanly that I don't even know who played in the earlier playoffs today.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hell yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You did it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, the truth is, I played football in high school.
		I liked football.
		I went to Dallas Cowboys games with someone I was a kid.
		And I can sure get into a game.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I can sure enjoy it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But you know, when I realize that it's used as a propaganda tool by the social engineers and that the patriotism you see during the game has been paid for with millions of dollars.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, then I assume you support Colin Kaepernick's taking a name.
		Right?
		Because the patriotism is clearly paid for.
		And in fact, the government pays the NFL to pull all that bullshit.
		They started doing that around 2006, if I recall correctly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, all the jingoism and Americana.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So since he knows that it's just a crass money-making scheme, maybe he supports people branding.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But like the other thing about it is like Alex is so stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like the idea that he thinks that that's some sort of like arcane secret thing that he's presenting, like the idea that the government pays or the military pays the NFL to promote the military.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course they.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course that's advertisement.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Haven't you seen the Army commercials?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		It's not.
		Anybody could see through that.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand why it's like, oh, they secretly do that.
		It's declassified.
		That sort of mentality.
		It's very weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, when they've got like Keith David doing voiceover for the Navy commercials, it's like, come on, guys.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You guys are screwing everybody over.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you have all those commercials for the military services that have real athletic tone to them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then on top of that, just, I don't know, video game soldier tone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Those sound fun.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a different issue than he's complaining about, quite frankly.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's propaganda.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he's right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And again, he's super wrong for those reasons.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So, I mean, great.
		I'm glad that he can enjoy games.
		I'm glad that he, I guess, has seen through the bullshit and now doesn't want.
		He doesn't get into the idea of sapping manlihood.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Manliness.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Manhood.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		From dudes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Male vitality.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		He usually does that when he complains about football.
		He's like, it's fake warfare to try and demasculinize man or whatever.
		He's not really on that tip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How does he feel about the movie Toys?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which has turned out to be one of the more prescient films of our time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hates it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Hates it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But Robin Williams and LL Cool J, come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He thought that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Mail in the future, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He thought that the MTV segment was whack.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't disagree with him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's in this weird place about sports, but then he makes this revelation that makes absolutely no sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It indicates something other than enjoyment of sport and sports leagues that he seems to be complaining about.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Not here judging anybody.
		You are who's into sports.
		I get it.
		I've been there.
		In fact, even though I've been awake.
		What year was it that the Red Sox finally went back to the World Series?
		It's like eight, nine, ten years ago?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		2003.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I was working on a film with a director who was into the Red Sox.
		And so I started at his office working late and then going out to restaurants or bars with him to watch it up to the World Series.
		But it just took like a month or whatever, but it took over my life.
		I was calling my wife saying, yeah, I'm sorry.
		I'm going back out tonight to watch the Red Sox.
		I mean, I get it, folks.
		If I started watching it within days, if I started watching ESPN, I would be hooked like a 10-pound bass on the end of a line.
		Right through my lip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You having a judging personality.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've been there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		I think he was gambling.
		Because that behavior is not.
		I mean, when the Cubs were in the World Series, that's how you were.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you're a Cubs fan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I like sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would you just randomly?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no reason.
		I mean, I know he said he's hanging out with the Sox fan, but he's a lifelong Texan.
		There's no reason for him to like the Red Sox.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, I mean, at the time, that was an amazing team, and it was a great narrative.
		You know, Pedro Martinez was throwing fireballs.
		Like, it was a good time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was St. Louis, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They beat.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember either.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I lost.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		After they came back from three down to beat the Yankees, that was pretty much the end of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was working at a Lion's Choice roast beef shop when that happened in my life.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How'd it go?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I loved it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did you get some beef?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I made a lot of beef.
		Okay.
		Made a lot of beef.
		Real bloody beef, too.
		It was horrible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would go home just covered in blood from the roast beef because I was on the slicer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My buddy Colin was on buns.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He had to butter the buns and you should have switched.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You should have switched jobs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because it was super fun because he was kind of slow on it.
		He would always yell, waiting on buns.
		That was kind of our thing.
		He decided he was going to make a rap album.
		And the title was going to be Waiting on Buns.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not a good title.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, there's a guy who worked there who was from St. Louis.
		And just because I was like, the Cardinals are up in the series.
		I like a gamble.
		I was like, I'll bet you $100 that the Red Sox win this thing.
		He's like, you got it.
		And did not pay me.
		Did not pay me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably would have collected from me if I had lost.
		Of course.
		I did not make him pay.
		But be that as it may.
		What Alex is describing is not normal sports watcher behavior.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a gambler's problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a gambling problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		That is like, I got money on the spread, honey.
		I'll be home later.
		I got to watch the game, see if my prop bets hit.
		You know, if someone hits it to the warning track, I get 20 bucks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's definitely, there's no like, oh, I'm going to take the run line.
		Nah, nah, nah, nah, dude.
		You're going wild.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or just like because sports is such an excuse to drink, it could be like an alcoholism thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's got an addictive personality.
		That's really all he's revealing there.
		The problem he has with sports is the problem he has with him, not sports.
		Sports are not the issue here, Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that might be why he thinks that sports takes away people's virility and their enthusiasm and energy is because it does for him.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He gets fucked up by them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As we have found elsewhere, he is a world-class projector.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
		He said he should get a movie theater job.
		He's such a projectionist.
		So in this next clip, Alex talks a little bit about science.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Guess what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the system's written countless books, countless university studies, white papers.
		They had the Stanford research studies.
		They had others.
		There's more than seven famous ones where they were able to get nine out of ten or more people to murder subjects in the graduate student and PhD programs.
		Look them up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I did.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There are a bunch of famous studies.
		Just type in famous study where students believe they were killing subjects.
		And when an authority figure stood there, their professor, by successful approximation, took a week or so of them slowly torturing people they believed with actors.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not how that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		With electric shocks to then say kill them.
		And most people would then kill or what they believe was murder.
		Under peer pressure from an authority figure.
		That's the Milgram experiment.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, shouldn't have been specific.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		On obedience to authority.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not a good idea.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Figures.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's what this has all been about, ladies and gentlemen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the one that's about the Nuremberg trials, essentially.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The foundational question was, is it possible that these people were just following orders?
		Right.
		And so what they did is they had it set up where one subject, the test subject, was in a room with an experimenter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Had the dial.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Had a button.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They had the button?
		I was fairly certain that was the dial one.
		Or they had it.
		It was like it would turn up every day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The experimenter would turn up the knob, which was a fake knob.
		Right.
		How it worked was you had the experimenter and you had the subject.
		And in the other room, the next room, you had the plant who was working with the experimenter.
		And they were supposedly another subject of the study.
		So you had the experimenter.
		The role of the subject was to be a teacher.
		And the other subject in the other room was supposed to be the student.
		And in the setup of the experiment, the subject would be sitting there and they would try and get the other person in the other room to guess a word based on another word.
		There was a word game that they were playing.
		And whenever they got an answer wrong, they were supposed to shock the other person.
		Now, the experimenter, who was sitting in the room with the knob, every time they'd get an answer wrong, they would turn up the voltage.
		And if the person who was the subject of the study, who was asking the questions, who's supposed to be the teacher, if they said to the experimenter, I don't think we should do this, they would rebut them four times.
		And if they made it past the fourth rebuttal, the experiment would end.
		That was the whole idea to see how much people would push back against authority.
		And they did find that most people very unhappily went along with it.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other way the experiment ended was you get up to 450 volts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is enough to kill.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Theoretically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They were told it was enough to kill.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's an essential piece of the experiment.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what Alex, that's one of the things he's misrepresenting.
		I mean, 65 volts could kill you.
		It's all about voltage.
		It's about current when it comes down to electricity.
		And it also comes down to, like, do you have a wound that it's going in?
		Because then the, like, skin is a really good conductor for the most part of electricity.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if you have a cut or something like that, the blood is going to be a disaster.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there's all, like, it's not, they weren't sitting down there and being like, kill this man or something like that.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he does present it that way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was super fucked up as an experiment.
		What they learned was pretty shocking.
		Now, here's the other most important piece that Alex is not talking about.
		The Milgram experiment, it is historically seen as not that great of an experiment.
		And here's why.
		Everyone was dudes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, the original experiment was all dudes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you are going to test that as a Nuremberg trial situation, though, not a lot of Nazi female soldiers in that regard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's probably.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it was at the time, you know, militaries were all dudes, except for the Russian military, because they needed everybody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As far as an experiment goes, I don't think he is.
		I think he's misrepresenting it and getting a lot of the details wrong.
		But based on what he is saying, I think he's got the spirit of what he's trying to say correct, which is that it's weird that people would be willing to murder because of an authority figure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If that's all he's trying to say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the first set of experiments, I mean, Alex said 90%, 65%.
		26 out of the 40 experiment participants, which is also too small a sample size to really explain and generalize based on.
		It's fucked up, but it's still like.
		So 65% of the participants administered the experiment's final 450-volt shock, though many were very uncomfortable doing so.
		At some point, every participant paused and questioned the experiment.
		Some said they would refund the money they were paid for participating in the experiment.
		Throughout the experiment, subjects displayed varying degrees of tension and stress.
		Subjects were sweating, trembling, stuttering, biting their lips, groaning, digging their fingernails into their skin, and some were even having nervous laughing fits or seizures.
		It's a really fucked up experiment.
		In the same way that, I mean, in passing, he does mention that he also brings the Stanford prison experiment.
		And that's another super fucked up one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's also another one that Milgram is there.
		They are described less as experiments and more as kind of philosophical questions and cautions.
		Yeah, the Stanford prison experiment is a, you know, if it were, if the, what am I trying to say?
		If the strictures of the experiment were applied elsewhere, it would be immediately invalidated.
		No, no biological science, no, no, any science, any of the hard sciences would ever accept those rules as a valid experiment.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's more or less anecdotal in nature.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's still poignant.
unidentified		It is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, the Stanford prison experiment, you can still draw some conclusions from that, but you can't draw wide, far-reaching conclusions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can just notice, hey, human beings are fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what they almost are?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They almost are good ways to inoculate people from that behavior in the future.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's possible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because you have these, quote, experiments that are done that demonstrate a point, and people can see it illustrated in real time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they're like, oh, I hope I wouldn't do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then possibly going through their life, they're more aware of the influence of authority figures.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or in the case of the prison experiment, they're more aware of the idea of us versus them mentalities that break out artificially and just naturally wherever.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, like we did with that guy at the bar last time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, and the only problem with that, though, is it doesn't seem to matter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, we have a very good experiment about how Nazism works, and apparently people are still fine with it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's fairly true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Those are really, really interesting studies.
		Again, because they are invalid, there's, you know, just by the very fact of it being you being aware that it is an experiment.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you're being paid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And you're being paid means that you're, you know, like if I'm in that situation with an experiment and they're saying blah, there's also the part of your brain that goes, well, there's no way they would allow me to kill a guy.
		So there's an artificial construct there.
		Right?
		What if they did?
		Dude.
		It was the 60s.
		Who fucking knows?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		70s.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, you killed a guy, and you're like, the experimenter's like, dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's fucked up.
unidentified		Hey, I mean, you want to go back to the fucking Tuskegee experiments?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're fine with killing people, especially back then.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was back when science was more of like a, hey, you guys here's some money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go fucking whatever.
unidentified		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just do something.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's see what justifies your budget.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's all we need from you.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is wrong about the, I mean, sort of like he's right in a small sense and wrong in a big sense about these experiments.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As is so often the case when we say he is right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is generally speaking in a very, very small capacity.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In a very trivial way.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But don't let that fucking fool you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I won't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex has a history of reading brainy magazines.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Please don't tell me he says that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He does.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I remember reading 20-something years ago in different publications that were brainy that the CIA by the 50s had put out a worldwide program to put out ugly art to discredit beautiful art because they wanted to destroy the discrimination factors in the brain between what is good and what is bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You read that in brainy publications.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I came on a skull too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if you guys remember that one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, there is that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Go back to the March 30th episode for that fucking super fun time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So his idea of what...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So as he understands the CIA's plan, it is to put out bad art in order to discredit good art.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a great CIA plan, and I want to fund more of that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the idea of making it so you can't differentiate between good art and bad art, what is beautiful and what is ugly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's complete nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, you go into the, there's tons of anecdotes of like, oh, I actually just let a monkey paint this and it sold for a million dollars.
		Like, what are you talking about going to discredit art?
		The art world is already fabricated anyways.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But there's a truth to some of this.
		The CIA did help promote people like Jackson Pollock, Mark Rothko, and Willem de Kooning, like these abstract expressionists back in their time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I did not know that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They did, and it was a way, it was a piece of the Cold War strategy that they had.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The CIA was wild during the Cold War.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The artists, I'm reading here from an article in Open Culture about this.
		The artists themselves were completely unaware that their work was being used as propaganda.
		On what agents called a, quote, long leash, they participated in several exhibitions secretly organized by the CIA, such as the New American Painting, which visited major European cities in 1958 and 1959, and included such modern primitive works as surrealist William Basiot's 1947 painting Dorf and 1951's Tournament by Adolf Gottlieb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And 1984's Dorph on Golf.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
		So they're like super fucked up paintings.
		They're like bizarre, completely abstract.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So was the, okay, next question, and this is very serious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Was the CIA behind the Dadaist movement?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They were behind Rococo.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I accept that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the idea that what they were doing is you have this art, and it's not really seen as all that great over here.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you have people in Russia who are used to very concrete paintings.
		Like because in their totalitarian state in the 50s in the Soviet Union, you had firmer control over art.
		So you had basically the art that was approved is like realistic paintings of Stalin and shit like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what flies over there.
		And so promotion in Europe of this very bizarre American art is going to lead to positive American sentiments because they're going to see America as avant-garde.
		They're going to see them on the cutting edge.
		And it's going to be so different from what they're used to.
		So that is the strategy that the CIA was employing as a way of culturally piercing the Soviet Union citizens.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is what they were doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Has nothing to do with trying to warp the minds of good and bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So it's like if the CIA was exporting Super Mario Brothers to North Korea right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Basically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, essentially.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a way.
		You know, sometimes I wish we could go back to the Cold War.
		Like when you read the stories of what the CIA did during the Cold War and how they had so little oversight, all of their plans were Rube Goldberg machines.
		It's fantastic how silly they were.
		Just so much rooting through garbage and like, okay, what if we implant this thing inside a mouse?
		It's a little recording device, and maybe the mouse will go into the boardroom and we'll get to hear all of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're with cats, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		Like, what are you guys, what is this?
		Are you guys mad scientists?
		What's happening?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They were to some extent.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's the intersection of desperation and like technology.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The military-industrial complex run amok?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that too, but like rudimentary technologies that couldn't quite do what we needed to do yet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then you add lack of oversight because of the desperate times.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like the real severe fear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we could argue all day about whether that was overblown.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The fears that we had about the Soviet Union back then.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, who knows?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was all imaginary.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we still have not gotten to what I would call.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you consider how many close calls we had with the nuclear warfare destroying the earth, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, some of those fears are really good, but those fears should have been more towards, okay, wait, so we're giving nuclear weapons to a bunch of idiots, and we're a bunch of idiots.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they're giving nuclear weapons to a bunch of idiots.
		Yeah.
		Oh, boy.
		That leads to a lot of close calls.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we had, there have been, what, like, five documented and declassified instances of like one dude coming down to should I press the button or not?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm aware of like at least a couple, but I would assume that it's more than I'm aware of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, the most famous one was the guy who just died in May, was it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Something like that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Russian guy who, against all orders from his superiors, was like, it's probably a training exercise.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Saved the world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Saved the world by himself.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he was then put into Siberia and never allowed to speak of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, great.
		That's what happens.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good work, guys.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we've not gotten to today's theme yet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we got a theme.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have the whole episode on this January 17th is about how football sucks.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's just how he started.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's about how the Red Sox suck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Although he did lose a lot of money.
		He was betting against the spread.
		Stupid.
		Bad idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bad idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't bet baseball.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't bet basketball.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has a very bizarre theme, and it's going to lead us through most of the rest of this episode.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And boy, just strap it in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, boy, howdy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I'm going to talk some about that in the second hour today.
		Is the Mark of the Beast real?
		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		100%.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the answer is: yes, it is real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Called it.
		Called it.
		I knew it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the answer is: we're going to end up living under it and no one's going to be raptured out of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Where does it say that in the Bible?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, when I say that, many of my Christian listeners and viewers get extremely angry and say that I'm basically bad.
		They're going to stop listening to me.
		That means you're in a cult.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Uh-oh.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If someone disagrees with you about something in the Bible and it's not the deity of Jesus Christ or the Trinity, then you've got a problem and have become a Pharisee.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whoa.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the reason we have tens of thousands of different denominations in this world is because everyone's infighting with each other, claiming they know the way and they have the answers.
		If you want to believe in a rapture, that is your business, and I'm not judging.
		And I don't think you're of the devil.
unidentified		Cool.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You have been grievously deceived by the devil.
		And I can go to the Bible and show people this all day long.
		And I'm going to talk about it the next hour.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very excited for you to talk about that in the next hour.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Does he not get the irony of him saying...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's hot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		May I introduce you to my friend's pedal?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If somebody disagrees with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		About anything but the Trinity, you got a problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which implies that if you have a disagreement about the Trinity or Jesus' divinity, then that's not a problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, no such thing as the Trinity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		At no point in the Bible do they ever talk about the Holy Spirit being top three.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ah, ghost is in there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's ridiculous.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I am a tripartite.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Holy Ghost.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to unpack that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, even Jesus is God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's old stupid.
unidentified		I'm just kidding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if you guys have heard this from me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think the Bible's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think they might have been lying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think you and Alex might have a problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, we don't disagree on the Holy Trinity.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of the things that I like the most about the Bible is if you look at a number of verses, especially, I kind of discount most of the Old Testament because it's old.
unidentified		Magic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Jesus' arrival and sacrifice invalidates the old covenant.
unidentified		Pretty much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And creates a new covenant.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And yet somehow we're still listening to people tell us about the Old Testament.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		With all due respect to the Jewish folk who do have a lot of the Old Testament in their holy books.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I guess Christians do too, but it should just be historical and not because of Jesus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope, literal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because of Jesus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Literal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because of Jesus.
		Nope.
		So the things that I really resonate with in terms of the Bible, if we want to talk about it, it is Jesus being divine.
		That sort of idea.
		And there are many instances where he says things to the effect of you will do what I do and greater, that I'm not different than you, that sort of thing.
		And if you look at it that way, the idea that Jesus is God, that sort of divinity within him is the divinity that's within all of us.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I can vibe on that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you want to vibe, I can vibe on that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't, though, because Christians do not believe that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Too busy talking about the wrath of the Old Testament.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But Alex, I'm very interested in this episode.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is fucking bent out of shape about the rapture.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because it's not.
		All right.
		Continue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's furious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think what has happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In the pro or the con, he thinks the rapture is real, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he thinks the rapture is not real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's against the pre-tribulation rapture.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's get into this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to dive in here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if you've been paying attention, but throughout the last, like, maybe 10, 12 episodes, there's been a guy who keeps calling in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a guy who keeps calling into Alex's show and trying to explain the pre-tribulation rapture to him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was one of the writers of Left Behind, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex keeps telling him, like, I don't want to have this debate.
		Like, how do you keep getting through the calls?
		So he keeps getting through the screeners, and Alex hears his voice.
		It's like, I don't want to talk to you.
		That's fantastic.
		So that's been sort of a narrative arc that's been going on.
		And I think this guy has finally gotten to Alex because he on this show spends almost the entire time talking about how stupid pre-trib rapture is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		Sign me up for that as well.
		So the idea that Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Trinity with all of us and pre-tribulation rapture is dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex believes there's a post-tribulation rapture, and that's because...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's somehow even dumber.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's because in the Bible, or at least in Alex's interpretation of Revelation and I guess Daniel and maybe Ezekiel, some of the prophetic books of the Bible, he believes that the Antichrist comes and leads us to a real bad time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a bummer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A real bad time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a bummer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Almost as bad as Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dude, it's the worst.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we go through that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of the world dies out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It turns out he's a dragon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then God comes back in the battle of Armageddon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jesus comes back, and that's when the battle happens, and then there's a rapture.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Much like the Red Sox in 2003.
unidentified		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is going to lose a lot of money on the Armageddon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, I'm betting on Satan on this one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You've got to hedge your bet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's probably a sin.
unidentified		What are you getting?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Minus 300 on Satan?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you getting there?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a good spread.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you got Jesus and the field.
		I'll take the field.
		I'm not going to take the field.
		I'm not going to gamble on Armageddon.
		But be that as it may, that's Alex's conception.
		And he's furious that I think a lot of his listeners are trying to convince him of the pre-tribulation rapture.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wherein the Antichrist comes, the faithful go to heaven, and they get to sit out this whole trouble.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The troubles, as it were.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he is mad because Alex believes that that is a globalist conspiracy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes. I wish.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I wish I wasn't joking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wish I was joking.
		I wish that was just like a good bit I came up with.
		It's not.
		He believes, I think he spells it out in this next clip.
		I'll just play this and then we can discuss it on the other end.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		God would protect his people many times at a point and Providence was clear, but you have to go through the fire first.
		You have to be willing to be put to the sword until God acts.
		And in many cases, like the Christians in the Coliseum, God doesn't take action because it's part of the plan that they be martyrs to spread the faith.
		But how do you get a billion Christians to lay down and to not be involved and let the devil take over the world?
		That is well, you tell them they're not going to have to face judgment.
		They're not going to have to face crises and evil on this planet and that they should just lay down to everything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like Jesus.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You teach them Romans 13 out of context.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex believes that this interpretation of the pre-tribulation rapture is something that is being taught in the glitterbug churches and what have you as a way of taking away the activism and power of the billion Christians that could be fighting the devil.
		It's the devil, and he does imply that it's the globalists who are doing this.
		A caller calls in and says that all of the world's religions, like Islam, Buddhism, Christianity, they all met in Seoul, Korea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They all met in Seoul, Korea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They did.
		They got to Seoul, South Korea.
		And they had a conversation where they decided to, eh, let's have a war in the world religion.
		All these religions came together and decided that.
		And the true comedy of it is this caller is listing off the religions.
		He's like, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism.
		And then Alex Jones chimes in, Shintoism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, they left Shintoism out of that one.
		They were like, nah, nah.
		You guys keep going and worshiping the trees or whatever.
		Get the fuck out of here.
		Shintoism.
		Come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a very, very small population, but I love it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You guys barely sacrifice anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I love the idea that Alex, like, he's like, got to throw in something to make myself sound smart.
		Shinto.
		So, yeah, man, it's a command.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's fantastic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And all they have to do is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love how Christians seem to have never read the gospels.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The synoptic gospels?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, just the four where Jesus is like, hey, let's not fight, assholes.
		Turn the other cheek.
		How do you get a billion Christians to just lay down?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You have them read the Bible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Romans 13, I mean, if you go back and if you just refresher course, it's really actually pretty fucked up because it is very clearly saying, hey, you should submit to your rulers because they're representatives of God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's one of the reasons, it's one of the justifications that they've used for slavery over many, many years.
unidentified		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Especially in the United States.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For the one in authority is God's servant for your good.
		If you do wrong, be afraid.
		For rulers do not bear the sword for no reason.
		They are God's servants, agents of wrath, to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
		Therefore, it's necessary to submit to authorities, not because of possible punishment, but also as a matter of conscience.
		The next paragraph deals with give everyone what you owe them.
		If you owe taxes, pay taxes.
		If revenue, then revenue.
		If respect, then respect.
		If honor, then honor.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's almost as though it was written by somebody with like vested interest in maintaining power.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Seems crazy to think about in the Bible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So then it gets into, in the next paragraph, you get into all the commandments can be summed up in the one command: love thy neighbor as yourself.
		Love does no harm to the neighbor.
		Therefore, love is the fulfillment of the law.
		Great.
		You know, that encourages societal unity.
		And then the last part about it, the last paragraph, starting at verse 11, and do this, understanding the present time.
		The hour has already come for you to wake up from your slumber because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed.
		Which is a truism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If there is an end eventually, then right now, it's sooner than it was earlier.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there's that.
		That's great.
		The night is nearly over.
		The day is almost here.
		So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.
		Let us behave decently as in the daytime, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy.
		Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the flesh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It seems almost counterintuitive that it was like the night is coming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The night is almost over and the day is almost here, which is like, no, I think that means I should go fuck as much as I want because the night's about done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I got to go to work tomorrow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The sun's coming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So fucking, let's go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's something to that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But then the only rebuttal I would say is maybe like, if you need practice being good, you know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not going to come easy the first time.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like the Red Sox.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because we love debauchery.
		So like, it's like, we've got to practice being decent or something.
		Anyway, I don't understand exactly how that passage is weaponized outside of literally interpreting it as submit to authorities.
		Yeah, yeah.
		Which is there.
		I mean, that's in your holy book.
		So quite a bit.
		Deal with it.
unidentified		A lot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Deal with it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not a misrepresentation of what that means.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's actually literally what it says.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So also, I mean, it's not a conspiracy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not a globalist conspiracy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't think so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So is the Mark of the Beast real, Jordan?
		It might be your headphones.
		Is your headphones off?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, there we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At this point, do you believe the Mark of the Beast is real?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What do you think about this whole rapture situation?
unidentified		Is the Mark of the Beast real?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Damn!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because obviously, it's here.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You answer the question.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to break down the type of world we're going to live in under this antichrist system.
		Everything controlled, everything distorted, a false reality forced into our consciousness to deceive even the elect.
		That is the modern antichrist system.
		And I tell you, if I was ever a doubting Thomas in my life, which I never was, but you still academically doubt, boy, I tell you, it is bone-chilling how real all this is and how scripture is being fulfilled.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very bone-chilling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, Alex is on this tip.
		He's worked up about the revelation and biblical prophecy coming true.
		Beyond that, later, he does sort of spell out what the world is going to look like.
		And of course, it's just the global bummer.
		It's a globalist fantasy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a bummer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then beyond that, the other thing is just he reveals that, like, I studied this and I've seen it in dreams.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And again, that's not great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what I like to hear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the way it's supposed to go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So after this point, Alex is on to some other shit.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And now we got to talk about chimeras.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And again, if you're an atheist, my point is, look at the dehumanization.
		Look at the genetic engineering.
		Look at the elites saying they're going to merge with machines and become gods.
		Look at humans being grown inside cows and sheep to harvest their organs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look at them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This isn't the X-Roman, folks.
		This is the real world.
		And it goes on and on and on.
		But if it's admitted in just an MIT magazine, nobody cares.
		I just thought of something.
		I have a responsibility to go to these facilities.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And to get answers and to just show people.
		It's just like Planned Parenthood infiltration.
		They're now suing that group that infiltrated by every yardstick is committing crimes, selling the body parts.
		They lied to the public and said they weren't.
		They don't tell women they're selling the body parts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because they're not.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Other abortion facilities have been caught keeping babies alive for harvesting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		My dad's a physician retired, and I remember going to get my driver's license when I was 15.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll go back to the story in a second, but I do want to just take a second before we move on because there's another minute of this clip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do want Alex to go save those chimeras.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would be the best true TV show ever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bring a camera.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Make another season of Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, Chimera Hunters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Instead of ghost hunters, Chimera Hunters.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd love it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Way in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Go to Bastrup.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'd watch that all day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right, so now back to Alex Jones' dad being a fucking weirdo.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		My hardship license is I had a job at a small animal vet.
		I got my license a year early.
		And he said, son, don't sign that organ donor card.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would say, dad, stop trying to scare me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would say, why would you say that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's why.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And my dad was the type of guy that said, you know, HIV is a bioweapon.
		It only really affects Africans.
		It's very hard for a white person to get it.
		The teams get killed by heavy metals and bad processed drugs.
		Only drug addicts that are Caucasian can get it with rundown immune systems.
		Oh, and it's a bioweapon, race-specific.
		And then later that all came out.
		That's how smart my dad is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It came out when John Rapids.
unidentified		Wait, This is pretty well defunct.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, this is when we talked about this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he's saying that this is, he's saying that, oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is from his dentist father.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no wonder he's fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		His dad told him that HIV has only affected black people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's race-specific bioweapons.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And hey, guess what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The reason that drug users get it more is because of the application, the ways people use drugs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, could it have something to do with that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Could it have something to do with sharing needles?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All the explanations that he's trying to come up with are so much more complicated than the realities.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a blood-borne disease.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And if you share blood with somebody, you're going to get the disease.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But be that as it may.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, obviously.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Be that as it may.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that is crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that being the response to Alex's, like, hey, why shouldn't I sign my organ donor card?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is even wilder.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that makes perfect sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What if we look at all of this as just Alex Jones' dad was fucking with his son?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he was fucking with him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he's nuts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You think he's nuts?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But where does he get that great toothpaste from?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Tom Maine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's where he gets it from.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this clip's not done.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The quote: conspiracy theorist because nobody in the house thought that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It was just he knew what he was talking about.
unidentified		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, he did the dental work on the deputy director of the CIA and stuff like that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, people listen to him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did they?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is he a CIA dentist narrative?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He did dental organizations for the guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he did dental work for the deputy director.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But I just took it like it was just dad sitting there at the dinner table talking.
		But when he said, don't do that, a lot of times they won't give you treatment and will actually kill you at the hospital for your organs.
		And I said, what is your proof?
		And he said, I'm just, I'm not going to tell you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now we know where Alex is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So it began.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we know where Alex gets that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So he figured out where Alex disbelieves proof.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My dad didn't think it was important to prove the claims that he's making that are wild.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I guess I could do that too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Good to see a clear A to A path.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dad, you just gave me a job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So, I mean, people who have much greater understandings of science can debunk all this for you if you want to go look into it.
		Just don't go to John Rapport's site.
		Yeah, definitely don't do that.
		That'll lead you down the wrong path.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or really, just think for two seconds.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That helps.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then you'd be like, no, that's dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, this chimera shit is wild because it has just happened.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, the article just came out in the MIT.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Rare.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The human chimeras are gestating on animal farms and what have you.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which we've gone over and discussed, and it doesn't say what Alex is saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sensational headline to get attention and what have you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now he's going to ramble about it for a little bit here, and it goes to some crazy places.
unidentified		Excellent.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's just something like this.
		Human animal chimeras are gestating on research farms.
		And I've got hundreds of articles here.
		I could spend all day on these.
		It's not like I keep going back to this four or five times this last week because I don't have material.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is it?
unidentified		Is it?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Is it this is a big whitewash article where it calls it tissue?
		No, they're growing embryonic babies that they create embryos and test tubes and then they implant them in the cows and in the sheep and in the pigs because they can't get women to do it.
		And Lord knows they've done it with women too.
		That's the whole thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense, too.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But they want them in cows because they can grow them up bigger and get larger organs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now let's pause right there and discuss the science of this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think Alex thinks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, so he thinks that the only reason our organs aren't bigger is because we don't have enough room.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we're like goldfish.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't do that.
		I can't deal with that.
		They want to put human organs into cows because cows have more space to make bigger organs.
		Hold them up bigger.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If your liver is failing, you want a huge fucking liver.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You want a huge liver.
		Maybe that was a design fall with God with God's plan in the first place.
		If he knew we were going to drink so much, he would have given us bigger livers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's in Ezekiel.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's your pre-trib rapture right there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, I think that there's some comedy and some value in that being said right after the HIV is a race-specific bio-weapon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They want to use these human-animal chimeras in cow bellies because there's more room to make a bigger organ.
unidentified		Bigger.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That begs the question, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why wouldn't you go with elephants?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't that make more sense, Alex?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why don't you go with a sperm whale?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
unidentified		Oh, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they're still mammals.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We could get a shit ton of organs out of that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You get a liver the size of your fucking whole body.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that is how you drink.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love how he does that.
		He always does the, he obviously reveals why he's doing something by saying he's not doing.
		Listen, and I'm not bragging.
		Okay, you're bragging.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not doing this just because I don't have any material.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you don't have any material.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why you just said that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You just said the exact same thing over and over again.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have 100 articles, but I only talk about this one ever.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		What a dick.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		30 years ago.
		20 years ago, I was reporting on this out of white papers, and it was 10 years old then.
		That's when they admitted it.
		You know, like I know I'm laboring, but this is the point I'm getting out of the story I've told probably 50 times of about 14 years ago.
		I went in to pick up a pizza at a pizza place, and this guy goes, I feel listening to you until you lied and said there's sheep and goats that are part spider and that they create body armor in their milk.
		I said, okay, well, believe whatever you want, sir.
		And he pumped me in my back.
		I said, no, you're a liar.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I turned around and I said, so you went to college, didn't you?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's like, yeah, I did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is why I know that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		When'd you go?
		I went to UT in the 70s.
		I took biology.
		They don't have stuff like that.
		And I just said, you better get out of my face.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's a good idea.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's what I deal with, folks.
		I'm covering stuff that spider goats are at least 25 years old.
		They've been in tens of thousands of publications.
		They've been in hundreds of publications at that time.
		I have the CEO on my show running a Department of Defense program with the goats.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, first of all, spider goats are real, but also I do love just the way he says that sentence.
		I had the CEO who's running a department with the goats.
		This makes me think of the goats at computers.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The goats are the employees running the Department of Defense or whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's where Scott Adams got his ideas from.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's Goat Bert.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's Goat Bert.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of the best characters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How do the spider leadership feel about the spider goats is another question?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's just another population for their infantry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it a joint venture between the goat leadership and the spider leadership to kind of cross-breed?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have bad news for you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The goat leadership is non-existent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Disarray.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they are like just hordes back in the day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like disinterested tribality.
unidentified		Right, right, right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I got you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They can't get together.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The goats are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but if they get a goat Gascon together.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to get out of here.
		I think I did all I got to do.
		I think I solved my life problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The month before that guy said I was a liar.
		But see, that's what I can't deal with.
		The Emergency Centers Establishment Act, the Civilian Inmate Labor Camp Program.
		All of this is admitted.
		FEMA camps are admitted.
		It's all admitted in the Army Times.
		They're preparing them for political dissenters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Army Times.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But they just sit up there and say crazy people think this is all happening, folks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you would like to recall that episode where we did the speed, the lightning round and discussed all of those FEMA fears.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is just making stuff up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very much so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Except for the civilian labor camp thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that one we did talk about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That one's scary.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that one's possibly not good.
		But again, when we deal with stuff like that, you have to deal with the fact that we have a private prison industry in our country that is enslaving people.
		Right.
		So, like, if you want to talk about both, I support it.
		If you want to talk about one, not the other, talk about the private prisons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it seems more big deal now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But wait, Dan, privatizing things always makes it better.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oversight.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Terrible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No regulations.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What they should do is give those civilian inmates guns.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That way they'd really get the job done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, there's bad civilian inmates, but you've got good civilian inmates.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what we're talking about anymore.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Me neither.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, we're going to get back to the devil in a little bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's some more thoughts about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Rest in peace, Malcolm Young.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's some more thoughts about the devil and about the rapture.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But this next clip, this is a Mike Down clip.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones may like this next clip is basically like I have been looking for this clip for a year.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So you've fallen in love.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You found the woman that you want to marry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		I have needed something like this to come out of Alex's mouth, and he delivered.
		And this clip is so fucking damning.
		Okay.
		And in hindsight, knowing what we know now about the Russian influence campaigns that were running from the summer of 2015.
		And now we are in January of 2016, six months later.
		Listen to this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And retail sales and everything else are in the toilet.
		And Obama gets up on TV and says everything's fine.
		Everything's wonderful.
		Everything's not fine.
		Everything's not wonderful.
		Ladies and gentlemen, I've been on here 21 years.
		And always in the past, when audience level went up, profits went up to fund the operation.
		Our audience has basically doubled the last six months, fastest growth rate ever.
		We got so many listeners, it makes my head spin, and profits are flat to be able to even fund the operation.
		That's why we know this is serious.
		I'm going to cover it more in the next hour.
		It's not doom and gloom.
		It's facts.
		We're going to get into the latest numbers.
		Royal Bank of Scotland saying, sell everything, but please purchase high-quality products at InfowarStore.com to help fund this operation during these dark times.
		Our voice is needed more than ever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You fucking idiots.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		First of all, nice ad pivot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I always enjoy that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was a good one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was a good one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But, dude.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He just revealed that our audience numbers have gone up so high.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They've doubled.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But nobody has bought anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I guess that must mean the economy is bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That must mean that Obama is lying about all these statistics that people are putting out about the rising economy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's definitely not that bots are listening to the show now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there's not a well, I mean, not even listening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, just artificial inflation of traffic numbers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's not a chance in my mind that on some subconscious level by now in 2017, Alex knows goddamn well that's what happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It kind of sounds like he doesn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that's why he's fighting so hard now, trying to make the Russian stuff seem like nonsense.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he knows I have been compromised.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've been hoodwinked.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And that clip right there is evidence that in the beginning of 2016, he didn't know.
		But it's obvious.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like I don't know how to come up with a good analogy about this, but it's like Alex talking to his hypothetical friend who got tricked by the Nigerian scam.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or whatever.
		And the guy's like, I'm going to make a lot of money.
		Like, I just got to go meet this Nigerian prince.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or whatever.
		And Alex is hearing him.
		He's like, there's nothing there.
		Alex is talking and saying, we have gotten twice the listeners in the last six months as we had before, but no one's buying anything.
		We can hear that and we're like, oh, dude.
		Oh, we know.
unidentified		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We literally know exactly what happened.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that to me, I mean, that's game over.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's game over on his, first of all, his audience size.
		And then secondarily, that he was not being specifically targeted by these Russian troll farms and bot farms.
		So congratulations, Alex.
		You've been compromised by Russia in so many ways.
		And you've revealed it all on your own show.
		And all we had to do to figure it out was pay attention to your dumbass.
unidentified		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Congratulations.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is so fucking obvious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's get BuzzFeed to report on this, baby.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We had no fucking clue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What an idiot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You'd have to be like, if we saw a doubling of our numbers, that's actually kind of reasonable, considering how low our numbers are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even then, if we saw that, we'd be like, what the fuck is going on here?
		There's a certain part of us that is.
		Well, and that's why it's so easy to hoodwink him like that because he expects narcissistic and we hate ourselves.
		Oh, of course my listeners double because I'm right.
		And if our listeners double, we'd be like, who's fucking with us?
		Nobody's listening to this goddamn show.
		How dare you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How dare you pay attention to us?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His version of it is, finally, people are waking up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And thank God I've been doing this work all this time.
		It's paying off now.
		The chickens coming home to roost and what have you.
		Yeah.
		And it's just robots.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What a fucking idiot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When I heard that clip, I was like, oh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nailed it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because every other time it's been very non-specific, and he's just said that the numbers have gone up in that time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the fact that he's the numbers have gone up, sales are flat.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exponentially, the numbers have gone up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sales have stayed exactly the same.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's right.
		He's right to see those two numbers and think something's up.
		He just thinks the wrong thing is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And now we know he knows it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now we know he knows exactly what happened.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He has to.
		Yeah.
		And he hasn't revealed that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's interesting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How do you think his listeners would respond if they knew exactly what was going on there?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So if you're an Alex Jones, I don't think they would care.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you're an Alex Jones listener and you just learn that has artificially inflated the influence of an Alex Jones or of these different right-wing things, exactly how would you take that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Would you take it as the Russians are right to do that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Because Alex has the built-in narrative that Russia are the good guys and whatever.
		They would probably look at it as like they were just desperately trying to help the Patriots and that's the way they thought it was best to do it.
		Raise the profile of the one guy telling the truth in this country and they could save us through working with Russia and getting Donald Trump elected.
		That's probably what they would say.
		And the fact that Alex, like at this point in the beginning of 2016, is clearly oblivious.
		Because I don't think I can kind of tell when he's he's such a bad liar.
		Yeah.
		There's indications that kind of shine through.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that seems very sincere.
		He seems confused.
		He's like, wait, why are all these people listening and not also buying stuff?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that might actually be why we start to see such a hard, desperate pivot towards sales.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You start to see him really ramp up the commercials and stuff like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he thinks more people are listening, so I just got to sell harder to get more money out of them.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's this untapped area of our listeners.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If I could just get them, then we'd be fucking rolling in it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not realizing those people are not buying it from you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You do, like, I've said this before, but you really have to give it up to the Russians because that was a brilliant strategy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would like to say that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to give it up to them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, you don't have to give it up to them.
		I mean, like, one of the main reasons that it worked so effectively is because nobody saw it coming.
		Nobody saw this massive flaw in our media landscape wherein I think a lot of people did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think some people did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but did we do it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Has America done it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel like this is, I think, I think this is one thing where America doesn't have the same kind of troll farms.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't know.
		I have no idea.
		But what I would say is, I don't think even they necessarily thought it would work.
		Work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think so.
		I think it was a very, very good strategy.
		And it was the, like, if you are, if you're fighting a war on a battlefield that you can't win on, choose a different battlefield.
		Like, that's all that they did.
		They know they can't do any number of propaganda things the same way that we can.
		They know they can't fight us physically.
		They know they can't do any of this.
		So they just chose the one spot where they were like, here's a flaw in this system.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We can dance on this horse.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And we're going to hammer it as hard as we can.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it was brilliant.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for the most part.
		It worked.
		And Alex is a useful idiot.
		Congratulations, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nicely done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now let's get back to the devil.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yay!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But here's the bottom line: there is an attack on human stone-cold sensors.
		So whether the devil's real or not, I want to end debate.
		The political global system of eugenics comes to kill, steal, and destroy and behaves like the mythical devil.
		The archetype is real.
		Joseph Campbell, the whole nine yards.
		For me, there's no debate.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just naming things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There's a spiritual force.
		I've experienced Providence.
		I've experienced many things that are private.
		I can tell you it's real.
		I've interviewed many people I respect, like Colonel Craig Roberts, who died for 10 minutes on the operating table, came back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he didn't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There are cultures that don't even have a Christian pantheon or cosmology.
		They've also been checked out by government psychiatrists and others who became Christian.
		And they have found that the Christ phenomenon, the Golden Gates, McDonald's, all of it, the portal, the judgment, all of it is real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		People say, well, that's an oxymoron.
		You said the dead in Christ are raised after they die.
		Interdimensionally, it doesn't matter.
		They're already in the future at that point.
		See, it's more sophisticated once you understand quantum mechanics.
unidentified		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You think 1,000 years, 500 years, 20 years, till the post-tribulation rapture?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not the pre.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then people are having the death experience now.
		They're going in dimensionally to the future.
		If you study the mathematics, it's incredible.
		And by the way, no one's ever postulated that.
		I just understand it.
		And people can say, oh, that's crazy.
		No, no, no.
		Once you figure all this out, the sacred geometry, people are like, that's of the devil.
		No, it's not.
		The Bible says the proof of God's design, the proof that God's real, is look in the heavens.
		Look at God's creation.
		Look at what we can do.
		What we believe, what we think about, we can then later build.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's creator-level stuff.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're made in the image of God, little G. Think about how incredible that is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's very incredible.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then think about the evidence in matter, but also living and non-living.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Again, hell, we experience what our ancestors experienced through instincts, through crystallized, compacted memories, race memory.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not the same thing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Then we live on through our children genetically as well.
		And then what we build, what we teach, what we write, what we do lives on.
		There's life shooting out at every angle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		By the way, that's very obtuse.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		By the way, InfoWars is doing well.
		God damn it.
		We're not in financial trouble like so much of other talk radio and other media.
		Period.
		Media, period, is oversaturated, it's collapsing, it's in trouble.
		It's stuffed shirt, it's scripted teleprompter reading.
		It's dying.
		Fair point.
		We have been trying to expand in the face of the globalists because everything we do is so successful.
		I have a responsibility.
		I realize.
		I realized this about nine years ago to really try to get as big as possible.
		And we've been doing it.
		It's having a huge effect.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What were you trying to do, Black?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're just victims of our own success because the satellites, the fees, the regulations, the closed captioning, the 15 to 16 million people that tune in and watch our free stream every day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're ruining us.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's killing us.
		And so I really want to be able to continue on.
		I want to be able to expand.
		But just to continue on, and I don't want folks to go to InfowarsStore.com.
		And I'm doing this because I told CJ, I said, make me plug twice an hour, not one anemic plug at the end of the hour.
		I mean, he really has to be plugged in every section like others too.
		That's not your bills.
		Plus, these products really do sell themselves once you use them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I barely have to sell them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wanted to keep that part at the end there because it is him drinking the Kool-Aid about these new listeners and what have you.
unidentified		Yeah, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And wrestling with, like, why aren't we making $50 million?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck is going on?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But, man, he is out there.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is out there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So I've never heard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sacred geometry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've never heard before that once you understand quantum mechanics, you'll realize that when people die for 10 minutes, they go to the future.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They've also seen the golden gates and the judgment is real, but then they come back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's totally real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that how that works?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Scientifically and mathematically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Scientifically and mathematically proven.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's proven that the post-death judgment that you go through is real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of like that movie featuring Albert Brooks and Streep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or it's like the movie Flatliners.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope, Defending Your Life.
		It's a much better movie.
		Fair.
		Yeah, that's why.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about the original Flatliners, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I only like the remake.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I am flabbergasted by that clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
		I fucking love it.
		So anytime somebody like him says quantum mechanics, you can already tune out.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because you're like, you nope, nope, you got nothing there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm shocked.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't even talk about the pronunciation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't even say the word quantum because you're just going to hurt yourself with it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now, here's where it gets like fucking awesome for me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like, okay, he starts that clip by saying the debate about the devil is over.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's over.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's over.
		As far as I'm concerned, that debate is done.
		Yeah.
		Okay.
		So then all that stuff about, you know, Joseph Campbell, all these cultures.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Joseph Campbell and the whole nine yards.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's not forget his bandaid.
unidentified		Movie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not the whole 10 yards.
		Right, right, right.
		Man, these cultures, they've shown that the judgment is real and all that.
		And science has shown that when you die, your consciousness goes forward to the post-tribulation rapture.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Then he gets on to sacred geometry.
		They say that's of the devil.
		No, it's not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's totally real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know it's real because when God said, What's the proof of seeing me? He said, Look around.
unidentified		I only so sacred geometry is obviously date girls who have tattoos of the Fibonacci spiral.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right, Alex.
		And then, of course, it comes back to ads.
		It's just like, what is going on?
		He's just losing it.
		There's just this, like, I think that he's incredibly like at this point, he's so confused.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What do you say to somebody saying stuff like that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't even mean about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That part is like, you shouldn't be saying this on air.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You shouldn't be saying this, period.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I dig it.
		I read up on stuff like that.
		I read up on sacred geometry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		On how quantum mechanics proves that when you die, your brain goes to the future.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure.
		I've read blogs about it and stuff like that.
		It's possible.
		I enjoy reading pseudoscience and spiritualism and stuff like that.
		I like reading that stuff.
		I don't believe it necessarily, but I feel so weird about it that I would never tell you what I know.
		I would never sit here and be like, oh, yeah, but and like list off specifics.
		Alex is doing that, but he also believes it.
		He needs to be less specific in the same way that that Milgram experiment.
		If he hadn't said Milgram or talked about the electric shocks or whatever, then he could be vague enough that I can't disprove that.
		That I can disprove.
		He's too specific here.
		This is what crazy people believe.
		Alex is a crazy person.
		This isn't religion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Former Department of Defense psychiatrists who have become Christians have officially proven that the Golden Gates are real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I did not know that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Pieczenik probably told him that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I did not know that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he's a state psychiatrist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the only person I know of that qualifying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is he a Christian?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would have, nah, maybe.
		I don't know.
		I always guess I assumed he's Jewish, but I don't know just because the name.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so does he think that the hurricane he lived through happened because I think I might have thought he was Jewish because he lives in Florida.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That might be a bias on my part, and I apologize for it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It could be.
unidentified		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know anything about his life, except he lives in Florida and he's big on manners.
		So let's get to this next clip.
		In this one, Alex is talking about how the Chinese have decided that they're going to start a new program where they have.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're going to deport people to the Golden Gates.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, not quite.
		They have a Facebook kind of thing, but where you can leave reviews of people and you'll get a social credit score.
		This is an idea that they were throwing around.
		I don't think they've implemented it because it got roundly attacked by everybody.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It turned into a great black mirror episode.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Basically, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Within the next two years, we're going to implement it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be law started now, 2016, that every political statement you make, everything you buy, everything you do will be fed through our database, the equivalent of their NSA.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Impossible.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And will be put into a social media score.
		In fact, you can pull that up.
		China announces new social credit score.
		And then if you're not a good globalist, you can't buy or sell.
unidentified		So before he gets to – If you're not a good globalist, you can't buy or sell.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Mark of the Beast kind of thing.
		But before he gets into talking about how everyone's going to do this and they're going to think it's cool, this is China.
		They had a one-child policy for a really long time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it worked perfectly.
		Right.
		But as everybody knows.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you want to talk about oppressiveness in China, it's China.
		This is not surprising to come like these ideas to be coming out of a pretty authoritarian state.
		The rest of the world is not going to be into it.
		And turns out China wasn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Again, good episode of Black Mirror.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good episode.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If you do, you get lower prices.
		Now it's peer pressure.
		Now if your friends aren't good communist, you don't get a good social score.
		So now you shun them to ghettos.
		There's BBC, China's social credit.
		Beijing sets up huge system.
		And the BBC announces it like it's a good idea.
		It's not total tyranny.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What he's describing is the current credit system we have now, and it's only incredibly offensive to black people and minorities and the like.
		Whereas, this, he's like, this could even hurt white people.
		Are you guys crazy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is a thread of that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what's going on.
		He's describing the system that we have now.
		But it only hurts minorities.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's something to that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's get to the end of this clip because it takes a twist that you're not going to expect.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What's described in Revelations?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So is the Mark of the Beast real?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's been used as a blueprint whether or not the cosmology itself is true.
		And I'm a Christian, but I don't want to be associated with the establishment, Pharisee, state-run churches that are 501c3.
		Now, even CNN got it right to their credit.
		China's chilling plan to use social credit ratings to keep score on its citizens.
		CNN is so weird, man.
		They do so much bad, and then sometimes they tell the truth in amazing ways.
unidentified		Or.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you why.
		It's like RT will talk about the bad stuff America does, but not bad stuff Russia does.
		CNN's run by the CIA, f so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So now he also knows that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he is aware of that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He knows that RT is run by the FSB.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What an idiot.
unidentified		I, oh boy, oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		First of all, CNN is not run by the CIA.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But secondarily.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And if it was run by the CIA, they should sell it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're not good at running it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, or they do a much different job with the content that they put up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But be that as it may, that indicates a clear awareness that Alex knows that RT is run by Russian government.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And is a Russian state outlet for propaganda.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he, as we covered in our last episode that we put out on the podcast feed, loves RT.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's been on a whole bunch of times saying very anti-American stuff.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What does that say, Alex?
		What does that say?
		What does that say?
		You dumbass.
unidentified		What a dumb, dumb prick.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's like the avatar of cognitive dissonance.
		Like, he's some sort of being come to us from the cognitive dissonance planet.
		And he's teaching us what true in the same way that John Hamm is an alien who's taught us what true handsomeness really is.
		So is Alex teaching us what true cognitive dissonance can do to a person.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it just baffles me the way that he reveals these things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he can't not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He thinks it all makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't matter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He thinks it's all perfectly reasonable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And so why wouldn't he tell it to you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's that mild schizophrenia shit.
		Yeah.
		That is that, like, the ordered worldview that he has is so warped.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he thinks that everything he's saying is dead on, despite the fact that it contradicts itself at every turn.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And even then, and see, and this is the other stuff where we're talking about him being a performance artist and the like, but this shit is shit he actually believes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is real shit he believes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sacred geometry, the fact that there's post-tribulation rapture that your brain goes to when you die, if you die before the tribulation and what have you.
		Yeah, I mean, this is not like, this isn't.
		I mean, in the strictest sense, this isn't propaganda.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is whackadoo shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a lunatic is what it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is the Alex Jones everybody signed up for.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is what we've all thought Alex Jones was for the longest time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's fucked up that he can have that half of his audience that aren't robots that listen to this and they're like, this guy seems like he gets it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or they're like, this is fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
		Actually, I've been working on a theory that, and I'll lay this out in a future thing, that I don't believe that you can find Alex Jones funny unless you subconsciously agree with him.
		I don't believe, or you're just not paying attention.
		That's possible, too.
		Those are the only possibilities.
		Because I've been getting some responses from people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Former AJs?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, people who are like, I listen to him because they think he's fucking hilarious, man.
		And you just can't be paying attention then.
		Or you agree with him and you don't want to admit you agree with him because then you're going to have to deal with like, oh, really?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You want to defend this?
		Everyone knows that's too hard.
		You don't want to fucking do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think it's hilarious when Alex Jones inflames anti-Semitism and anti-everybody but white people believes.
		I think it's hilarious.
		Although at the same time, we do laugh a shit ton about it.
		So there is that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's in a different, we laugh a different laugh than those people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, one filled with hate and rage.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And revelation of what he's actually talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, we're back to the rapture being conspiracy in this next clip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Enjoy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm not up here judging anybody that's in the system.
		I'm in it too.
		But I'm in it to try to educate and try to inform people.
		But it's nowhere.
		You can read John the Revelator on the Isle of Patmos.
		The beast will wage war against the saints and will overcome them.
		There'll be this great falling away before.
		It'll be the greatest coming to Christ and to God ever as the whole world turns against the beast more and more.
		And then he starts wiping out billions of people, a third of the world's population, half the earth's surface burned.
		Giant columns of flame, mountains, huge metal insects dropping bombs.
		I mean, it's all in there.
unidentified		Is it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Huge wars.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Russia and the Middle East, huge confrontations.
		It's all being lined up.
		You can't deny that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Soviet Union did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what they called themselves.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In biblical times.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In biblical times.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then Christ comes back at the Battle of Armageddon.
		And then the dead in Christ are raised.
		I mean, a five-year-old could read that, but you're so deceived.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because in the last hundred plus years, the World Council and National Council of Churches has globalized the Christian faith and come in and taught new dogmas that were not known in Christianity ever.
		In the 40s, German Christians didn't resist Hitler and thought it was the end of the world.
		They thought he was the Antichrist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In the 270s, American Christians didn't resist Hitler.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Christians get so mad at me.
		I'm not saying your preacher's wrong if he teaches pre-tribulation rapture.
		I'm not saying he's a false teacher.
		You are sure he knows more Bible verses than I do.
		All I know is the whole Bible, Christians have to stand up.
		The Israelites had to stand up against evil and do the right thing on threat of death and many times get killed.
		Why now do we get teleported up?
unidentified		Fair enough, I guess.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, again, if you create imaginary arguments to argue against, your argument is probably right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's too weird for us to sit here and have him be like the post-versus pre-tribulation rapture.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't care.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what are we doing to unpack this?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why are we doing that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think we're unpacking it.
		I think what we're doing is we need it's important that our audience knows that he spends a lot of time on stuff like this.
		Right.
		Because it is like, there is way too much of a focus in the mainstream, I believe, the coverage of Alex Jones on, I mean, there are important issues, his hucksterism, his desperate salesmanship and what have you.
		His support of Trump, those sorts of things are important facets to him.
		But his religion, which is not Christianity, is very important to the big picture of who he is as a broadcaster and as propagandists.
		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's so weird that he does that on the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's so weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sunday show, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's so weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a Sunday show.
		Oh, so weird.
		It's not that we're like, Alex believes in the post-trib.
		Let's just fucking argue for the pre-trib for fun.
		It's more just like, let's let people hear this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it's fucking wild.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So now I do want you to argue for the pre-trib for fun.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course, it happens before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was a lot of fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Moving on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why would God put the faithful through that?
		That's horrifying.
		That's a very dickish God.
		That would be like, hey.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dude, well, why would God put anybody through anything?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wow, to make them stronger.
		I don't know.
		Anyway, we have one more clip here.
		Alex is fucking like in this clip, I think we get the revelation that I got it.
		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, don't worry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That this whole day is short.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're going to give me that and not let go Guys Khan?
unidentified		Come on, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Go get this code was okay.
		So I think that at the beginning of this clip, we see where all of this comes from.
		This day of just rambling about the Revelation and tribulation and what have you.
		I think it's because someone keeps bothering him.
		And then he rambles on for a while about hypocrites or something.
unidentified		Of course.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I'm not on some high horse, but if I get lectured one more time by a Pharisee about me getting mad sometimes and using mild French, which I try not to do, but I'm so real I do it occasionally.
		I'm going to throw up.
		Get the beam out of your eye before you talk about sticking my eye.
		I'm ready to die for the unborn.
		I'm ready to stand up against the globalists.
		I'm nothing special, but I don't like evil.
		I know my heart's right.
		Where's yours?
		Because I don't see the manifestation of resistance against tyranny.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I see people in a cup of the donor cards who want to go to church.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know where it looks like they're all upright and good, and at night we know what you're doing.
		I almost want to go do bad stuff so I'm not with you, all the fakes.
		I'm racked by conscience.
		I'm racked by trying to be the best person I can be.
		And even having to study the globalists in a war game, they're evil.
		I have to get in their mindset, and then I feel sinful, even studying the enemy.
		The knowledge of good and evil permeates all.
		I just know that great evil is upon us, and it's only going to intensify for the decades coming forward.
		It may be 50 years, 100 years out.
		My gut tells me it's more like 10 years.
		I mean, stuff is moving quick, folks, and it's scary.
		But like Nineveh, we could get a reprieve.
		God was going to judge Nineveh.
		But because Jonah didn't want to go, Jonah didn't want to be a prophet.
		Jonah didn't want to go out and tell the truth.
		Jonah didn't want to get in people's faces.
		But because Jonah did it, the people listened.
		They got a hundred-year reprieve.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Seems very awful.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The volcanoes and earthquakes that destroy that civilization, and archaeology shows it happened.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Archaeology shows it happened.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Archaeology does not prove that Jonah was in a whale.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Archaeology proved that God gave them a hundred-year rest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's this in the fossil record?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, hold on a second.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Note here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Call Larry Nichols.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck?
		The reason that this is important, I left this in because it is kind of rambly and nonsensical, but this is the beginning of a narrative that will become very important in his support of Trump.
		And so you could argue that this is a soft launch in some ways.
		This idea of a reprieve, like Nineveh, he uses those specific languages about Trump, that Trump is that reprieve.
		That is God giving us a chance to get out from under these globalists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He further makes it more robust in his metaphor that what Trump is allowing us to do is get our head above water and take a breath before we have to go and fight this shark, I guess.
		I'm not entirely sure where it works in the metaphor.
		But this is the first time that he has used that metaphor in the context of the globalists and what we're doing moving forward.
		And he will co-opt it from this religious perspective onto.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Turn it into a Trump thing.
		Wow.
		People's gods sure are weird.
		He's got a lot of weird shit to do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If they appreciate this, that's a God who's not paying attention.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a God who's checked out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a God who should become a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you that right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a God who is not buying Caveman.
		That's where the traffic's coming from.
		God doesn't have any dollars.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, I got you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He wants to listen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God's got his own holy bot farm.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Anyway, let's wrap this up because it's the end of this.
		Okay.
		But it's thrilling that we can get that admission from Alex that his traffic has gone up and no extra money.
		Bots.
		He knows that RT is a propaganda outlet, and he spends an entire day on his show bickering about the revelation and various forms of the rapture and doing that whole game where he's like, hey, if you believe in a pre-tribulation, your preacher's not full of shit.
		But also, it's a globalist plot trying to just pacify Christians.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		UNESCO was involved.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying he's a bad guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's just part of the globalist conspiracy to destroy all life on this planet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At one point, he says, they sound a lot like collaborators to me.
		What are you doing?
		Pick aside.
		Pick aside your bizarre nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, I want to.
		See, now I want him to quit.
		Just quit broadcasting, Alex.
		Write your own holy book.
		You'll get a, look, if fucking Joseph Smith can get a worldwide religion, fuck yeah.
		Alex Jonesianism?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shit, tons of people would do that shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I just don't think he could write a coherent thread.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he'd need a ghost writer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He needs a ghostwriter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are available.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if you'd like to get us, you can reach us at our website, knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Send us an email, knowledgefight at gmail.com.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Write your holy book, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You could reach out to us on Twitter.
		It's at knowledge underscore fight, Alex.
		We'll write that holy book for you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or we're on Facebook.
		And like I said, there's a lot of writing content.
		Also, your blog every Thursday.
		And every day there will be little pieces of what the fuck Alex Jones is talking about that day.
		If you can help boost them out there, it would help a great deal, and I appreciate it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then you could also go to iTunes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's where our folks could.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You could subscribe to it.
		You could leave a review.
		You could give us some stars, preferably five stars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just had a thought.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What thought?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we know about one thing that Alex Jones believes in.
		Or Alex Jones' dad believes in.
		HIV denialism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		HIV denialism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One other guy believes in that stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a guy who doesn't hang out pictures.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What fucking person would believe in do both of those things?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I see no reason to not believe that John Rappaport is Alex Jones' dad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now think about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The teeth come into play.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a dentist.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a dentist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he's fits of depression.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's knocked out all of his teeth, and that's why he needs dentures.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go even further.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex's dad died.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		Right.
		He needed a replacement dad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex's dad wants to live forever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How do you live forever?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You download your consciousness into some false teeth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Race memory.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then implant those teeth into John Rappaport.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Incisor memory.
		That's probably what happened.
		I think we solved this.
		I think we solved it.
		So, Alex Jones' dad and John Rappaport, I invite you to go fuck yourself.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Alex.
unidentified		I'm a Christian Color.
		I'm a huge fan.
		I love your work.

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