Today, Dan tells Jordan about the November 20th episode of The Alex Jones Show. Alex has a lot of dumb ideas about Charles Manson's death and history, and he accidentally reveals that he has a whole lot in common with the recently deceased. Beyond that, he has a white nationalist South African on the show to be racist as shit.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Today we are drinking the novelty-est of beverages. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Old style. | ||
| Old style. | ||
| Because we need it, buddy. | ||
| The Chicago favorite. | ||
| We need it. | ||
| Today is a weird day. | ||
| This is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| I don't know anything about Alex Jones. | ||
| And that's our dynamic. | ||
| That's how we like to have fun. | ||
| And clearly Dan has got some shit to say, because you ran through that bet real fast. | ||
| I want to talk about Survivor Series. | ||
| Alright, I knew it. | ||
| I knew it! | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| I do kind of want to talk about it, but we already... | ||
| Clearly, you spent the last five minutes telling me about it. | ||
| Yeah, I was venting a little bit. | ||
| You know how a lot of people pre-show, a lot of shows have like, okay, here's what we're going to talk about today, here's what we're going to go through. | ||
| A nice little pre-production meeting? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| I'm like, Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn got fucked. | ||
| It's pointless. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Bunch of garbage. | ||
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I hate it. | |
| This is why our eventual show on MSNBC will be cancelled immediately. | ||
| Right, just weird, vague reviews. | ||
| Trying not to give spoilers away about past wrestling pay-per-views. | ||
| Fox News is going to have a field day because in the first five minutes of our TV show I'm going to be like, have we considered killing all white people? | ||
| Well, we're going to get to that later. | ||
| And here is my plan for how to do it. | ||
| Jordan, you're going to love one of the things that comes up on today's show. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| I'm going to guess it has something to do with race war. | ||
| It does. | ||
| In a very interesting way. | ||
| Today we're going to be covering the November 20th, 2017 episode of The Alex Jones Show. | ||
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That's today! | |
| That's current as we're recording this. | ||
| And, you know, we... | ||
| There's trouble. | ||
| I don't know how else to put it. | ||
| Every time we go back into the present, we get into trouble. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that I found incredibly shocking about today's episode. | ||
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Oh boy. | |
| And I make a prediction that you're going to be as mad as you've ever been. | ||
| That is a hearty prediction, my friend. | ||
| And considering that it's already 8pm, I want to ask that you... | ||
| Among the almost year that we've been doing this podcast... | ||
| I think I've got some high points as far as anger goes. | ||
| There's some infuriating stuff in here, especially once we get into what the reality of what they're talking about is. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But I just ask you, in courtesy to my neighbors, try and contain yourself. | ||
| Okay, I'll do my best. | ||
| Recently, my anger has been very cold. | ||
| I've just been reserved and furious. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| Do you disagree? | ||
| Yes, I disagree. | ||
| For me, I feel like that's true. | ||
| I've edited these episodes. | ||
| I know exactly how much you've been yelling. | ||
| I have a hard time listening to them now. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| So the episode, I think, is going to be trouble. | ||
| And so to start things off, I have an out-of-context drop that is delightful. | ||
| You're so protective of me. | ||
| I try. | ||
| Is it just this song? | ||
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We're going to do what they say can't be done We've got a long way to go And a short time to get there Time to be kind of like a man to drum I love this song. | |
| He's not wrong. | ||
| Finally, we agree on something. | ||
| Finally, me and Alex can really come together. | ||
| That's pretty delightful, coming out of break. | ||
| Just eastbound and down. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Ah, such a human moment. | ||
| We begin with something that is filled with love, and I assume we are going to only descend from that high point into hell. | ||
| Yes, indeed. | ||
| In a very Dante-esque nightmare. | ||
| I will tell you this, ahead of the show, I actually spoiled this in a text message between you and I earlier today. | ||
| A lot of the show... | ||
| That Alex put on today was in reaction to the death of Charles Manson. | ||
| That's why I said I'm sure it has something to do with race war. | ||
| Yes, but that's not actually the biggest part of the race war stuff. | ||
| How is Charles Manson not the biggest part of the race war stuff? | ||
| I had a stretch where I was actually very interested in the whole Charles Manson thing, and boy howdy! | ||
| He was really afraid of black people. | ||
| So, that's good that you have a lot of awareness. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And knowledge about Charles Manson. | ||
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Is it? | |
| Well, for this episode, yes. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Because I have a good sense of him, but I will be the first to admit that I've never done a deep dive on him. | ||
| I have just read a couple books and seen some documentaries and stuff. | ||
| That's more of a deep dive than most human beings will ever do. | ||
| Right, but I imagine you have more expertise and thankfully that is the case because... | ||
| Alex has a narrative. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And let's start... | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Let's start with how he wants to get things going, how he's going to present the death of Charles Manson. | ||
| I'm already angry. | ||
| I'm Alex Jones. | ||
| Thank you for joining us on this Monday, the 20th day of November. | ||
| Also, the music that's playing is the cover of Helter Skelter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is a little bit... | ||
| I'm guessing he couldn't get the rights to Helter Skelter on this one. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Well, Charlie Manson of Helter Skelter is deader to doornail. | ||
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health is capital cult Also, spoiler alert, guys. | |
| I don't like to brag, but I have 100%ed the drums on Helter Skelter, on Expert, on Rock Band Beatles. | ||
| I don't mean to brag. | ||
| And as that came out of my mouth, I realized that's a lie. | ||
| So, in fact, actually, you were telling the truth. | ||
| You don't mean to brag. | ||
| Clearly, you did the opposite of that. | ||
| I got gold stars on it. | ||
| I didn't 100% it. | ||
| I got you. | ||
| the interest of honesty and because the person I was playing with is in the chat room. | ||
| Leader, murderer Charles Manson dies at 83. Now back then, it was really weird and crazy to have somebody on PCP and LSD running around Still is. | ||
| Killing beauty queens. | ||
| Definitely still is. | ||
| And coffee baronesses. | ||
| It was a big, big deal. | ||
| It was shocking. | ||
| But nowadays, everybody's crazy. | ||
| That is a Charles Manson quote paraphrased. | ||
| This is the godfather of the Antifa movement. | ||
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What? | |
| This is the godfather of the modern environmental movement. | ||
| This is a man that wanted 90%. | ||
| of the world's population to be exterminated by a world government and a man who wanted to ignite the breakdown of civilization by causing race war playing different ethnic and religious groups off against each other around the world in a divide and conquer strategy. | ||
| The truth is Charlie Manson was inducted into a higher level CIA DARPA mind control program and inserted into the highest levels of rock and roll. | ||
| Movies, he knew all the major folks. | ||
| Co-wrote songs for the Beach Boys. | ||
| The list goes on and on. | ||
| He was delivering large amounts of pure weapon's grade LSD to campuses all over California. | ||
| He was selling drugs. | ||
| Then the wind-up toy either went off the rails or was ordered to carry out the murders. | ||
| We don't know still to this day. | ||
| He was CIA. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| What is your immediate reaction to that? | ||
| I think I made that clear. | ||
| I think my immediate reaction came immediately and was very obvious. | ||
| Was not in favor, I'm guessing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alright, one. | ||
| He did not try and cause a race war. | ||
| He was paranoid and terrified of the race war. | ||
| He assumed that it was going to come. | ||
| And one of the main things that he did was he used that paranoia to control the people inside of his cult. | ||
| He wouldn't allow them to escape. | ||
| He wouldn't allow them to go anywhere by stoking their fears that they would be killed if they went elsewhere. | ||
| The other thing that he did was not co-write any of the Beach Boys songs. | ||
| However... | ||
| He hung out with them. | ||
| He hung out with one of the Beach Boys. | ||
| Who was crazy. | ||
| Did not hang out with all of the Beach Boys. | ||
| The rest of the Beach Boys fucking thought he was a lunatic. | ||
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Right. | |
| And probably had to do with why they ended up breaking up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One of the reasons, however, that he hung out with one of the Beach Boys was not because they were friends of any sort. | ||
| It was because sex. | ||
| It was sex? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I thought it was drugs. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Sex is a drug for some people. | ||
| I just want to be right. | ||
| No, so what's this fuck? | ||
| I don't remember which Beach Boy it was. | ||
| Brian Wilson. | ||
| It was not Brian Wilson. | ||
| David Wilson. | ||
| It was not Brian Wilson. | ||
| It was David Wilson. | ||
| David Jones. | ||
| It was not David Jones. | ||
| Alex's dad. | ||
| It was Alex's dad. | ||
| I don't remember the names of the rest of the Beach Boys. | ||
| No, so it was basically David Wilson just hung out at the place because Charles Manson... | ||
| He threw women at him. | ||
| Underage women, in case you were wondering. | ||
| I wonder if Alex wants to talk about that. | ||
| I don't think he does. | ||
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He doesn't. | |
| Yeah, no. | ||
| It was a sex cult for David Wilson, and he did that. | ||
| Part of the reason that he had the cult was just so he could get more people for David Wilson to have sex with so David would still hang out with him. | ||
| We're getting a correction from the chat room. | ||
| It was Stamos. | ||
| John Stamos? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's doing it with the Beach Boys. | ||
| I know! | ||
| I'm still very angry. | ||
| The point that I want to make, putting aside all of the factual inaccuracies. | ||
| Which is all of them. | ||
| The interesting thing that I run into all the time is the length that Alex will go to excuse white violence. | ||
| It's astounding to me that every time that there's a white person, it has to be some sort of a CIA operation gone wrong or something like that. | ||
| It's never that they... | ||
| It's always someone else's fault. | ||
| Dennis Wilson, not David Wilson. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| David Wilson was a guy who ran a film festival in my hometown and was not involved with Charles Manson. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Dennis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck Dennis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was a piece of shit. | ||
| He was a menace. | ||
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Brian... | |
| We're off to a bad start. | ||
| His old style's getting good to me. | ||
| I'm furious and you're doing that. | ||
| Whatever that was, you gotta stop it. | ||
| I think what's going on is I know that this episode's gonna make you so mad that I'm kind of like... | ||
| You're trying to preemptively toss in the bits? | ||
| No, I'm just trying to be like... | ||
| I'm almost trolling at this point. | ||
| It's almost just like, I'm gonna have my fun. | ||
| Right. | ||
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I gotcha. | |
| I gotcha. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| I will try and play off of that end. | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm getting a correction. | ||
| It's Owen Wilson. | ||
| That actually sounds right. | ||
| It was Drillbit Taylor. | ||
| Luke would never have been involved with that. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| Luke actually wrote all of the best songs on Pet Sounds. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Very strange truth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Future Man. | ||
| Andrew Wilson. | ||
| That was his name. | ||
| Andrew Wilson, who played Future Man in Bottle Rocket. | ||
| And, of course, the best character in any film in history. | ||
| Future Man. | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| A volleyball. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| From Castaway. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Wilson Wilson. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I just want to talk more about Future Man. | ||
| I don't actually know what Future Man is. | ||
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Which one is that? | |
| He was the guy who they lived with in Bottle Rocket when they were trying to plan the big robbery. | ||
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Oh! | |
| I'm not going to lie to you. | ||
| Never saw Bottle Rocket. | ||
| Owen Wilson has a yellow jumpsuit on, and Future Man pulls up in a Jeep, and he makes fun of him. | ||
| He's like, look at this guy. | ||
| He looks like a little banana. | ||
| To this day, one of the funniest lines. | ||
| Because afterwards, after he drives away, Owen Wilson's like, Future Man's so cool. | ||
| Anyway, enough Bottle Rocket talk. | ||
| Quick question. | ||
| I love Bottle Rocket. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Probably Wes Anderson's best movie. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Don't fucking come at me, chat room. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| That's going on the list of things Dan finds reasonable. | ||
| I think Bottle Rocket is very reasonable. | ||
| Let's move along. | ||
| Enough of this Wilson riff. | ||
| Let's get down to this. | ||
| Alex wants to talk about the 60s. | ||
| I'm sure he has got his finger on the pulse of the 60s. | ||
| He wants to talk about the environment the people were living in in the 60s and what was taboo and what have you. | ||
| And it's devil worship. | ||
| Nothing I love more than a guy who grew up in the 70s telling me what happened in the 60s. | ||
| This is about devil worship and it goes off the rails pretty fast. | ||
| What was big and bad and evil in the 1960s to the Puritan America? | ||
| Devil worship. | ||
| But if you could get people to worship the devil, to have sex with super hot movie stars, while next it was, we need you to kill somebody. | ||
| And that's what Charlie Manson was about. | ||
| He was one MKUltra tentacle that went sideways. | ||
| And they used it to create the whole new popular culture where it's so cool to be whacked out of your brain a shaman who knows everything and can do everything and has got your cult of trendies that go from being hippies to being cold-blooded murderers. | ||
| That's always what it is. | ||
| First they get your peace and love and nirvana and you can do anything and all of a sudden, but there's a price to pay. | ||
| There's always a Dracula. | ||
| In the shadow. | ||
| So, hold on one second. | ||
| We got a couple of problems. | ||
| Is he saying that Charles Manson was used to incite the 60s to violence? | ||
| Because as the narrative goes, literally, for everyone else... | ||
| Charles Manson was the end of the 60s. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Charles Manson was the story where everybody goes, oh, the flower child bullshit is over. | ||
| We gotta figure shit out. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, to a great extent, because that was like 69, right? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And then everything that happened at the beginning of the 70s was kind of trash. | ||
| Yeah, Ken Kesey's eulogy for the 60s heavily features Charles Manson. | ||
| Yeah, well, I think Alex's conception, as best I can tell from having listened to all of it, And the connective tissue that's not really in a lot of these clips, because it's boring, is that he believed that Charles Manson was a guy who was a bag man, he was a drug guy, and he was trying to get people into drugs and then compromise them into devil worship. | ||
| But not even the family. | ||
| He's not even talking about the family. | ||
| He's talking about, like, he says specifically there's one Charles Manson at every campus around America, and Charles Manson was just the one that went wrong. | ||
| He went off the reservation, and Alex will explain what that means in a little bit. | ||
| You have a question? | ||
| I see you raising your hand. | ||
| I have time for one question. | ||
| All right. | ||
| No follow-ups. | ||
| At University of Missouri, who is your Charles Manson? | ||
| I think it was this guy named Gabe. | ||
| He was real weird. | ||
| Gabe Wilson, yeah. | ||
| He was real weird. | ||
| He would walk around with a big effigy of George Bush bleeding. | ||
| He was strange. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm going to go with that's fine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think he had a cult, though, did he? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Generally, people on that side of things don't... | ||
| You've got to start low. | ||
| He did have a Students for Action group or something like that. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| So he did have a following. | ||
| Well, then you know he fucked. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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On that picture of George Bush bleeding. | |
| Oh, no, it was not a picture. | ||
| Effigy. | ||
| It was like a giant... | ||
| It was an effigy. | ||
| It was a giant puppet. | ||
| Oh, well, then he just had sex with the effigy. | ||
| That's clear. | ||
| It's entirely possible. | ||
| That's entirely true. | ||
| So in this next clip, while discussing all this devil worship in the 60s, Alex accidentally makes a... | ||
| Bit of a confession about what his version of Christianity is. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| And what he looks to. | ||
| And let's see. | ||
| The whole revolution you're seeing is French Revolution Part 2. They saw we were launching ours in 1776 for the real. | ||
| The real. | ||
| New Atlantis. | ||
| No. | ||
| For Sir Francis Bacon. | ||
| The real Rosicrucian order. | ||
| Esoteric Christianity. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| And they created their counterfeit, which is just every flavor of rebellion, death, degradation, and it's all about psychopathic men being able to have women and others programmed and under their control to do horrible things. | ||
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Think about exactly that! | |
| You're a psychopathic man who is obsessed with subjugating women! | ||
| Oh, yeah, and I also wanted to say, at the end of that last clip, we kind of got off track, but he's saying that, you know, Charles Manson, there's always a Dracula in the background or whatever. | ||
| Like, fucking look at David Koresh, you dumbass. | ||
| Like, he... | ||
| Based his career, he started his career building a new church at the site of the Branch Davidians. | ||
| And loves Waco. | ||
| Loves David Koresh. | ||
| All that shit. | ||
| This is where you find out something weird about me. | ||
| Huge David Koresh fan. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Huge David Koresh fan. | ||
| I love the way his name is David Koresh. | ||
| Love the way he was Jesus. | ||
| Reincarnated. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Everybody knows that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Strangely enough, I'm fine with everything he did. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Moving along. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| But Alex is very apologetic about David Karash. | ||
| He's like, hey, if you... | ||
| You can't. | ||
| He is. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| He is. | ||
| You can't be. | ||
| He is. | ||
| That's not a thing you can be. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| But anyway, he's into esoteric Christianity. | ||
| I do like the degree of difficulty on that, though. | ||
| You got, like, okay. | ||
| It's like in the Olympics. | ||
| You know, anybody can do a straight dive, make it look pretty good. | ||
| Your degree of difficulty score, way down. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If you can defend David Koresh, your degree of difficulty is way up there. | ||
| You already start a little ahead. | ||
| Yeah, even if you fail, you've still got bonus points starting off. | ||
| There's no doubt about that, but at the same time, he does not nail the landing. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| It's a disaster. | ||
| He belly flops and explodes. | ||
| The entire pool just explodes around him. | ||
| He just goes on and on about how, like, Janet Reno killed him. | ||
| Janet Reno did kill him. | ||
| He's not wrong. | ||
| Right, but that's not the most important piece. | ||
| That's not the most important David Koresh information. | ||
| So, esoteric Christianity, though. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Have you done any research into esoteric Christianity? | ||
| I have not done any research into... | ||
| My theories about Gnosticism are pretty close to right. | ||
| He's not talking about Thomas Jefferson's version of Christianity, right? | ||
| He might be. | ||
| He calls Thomas Jefferson a classical liberal, and he calls himself a classical liberal all the time. | ||
| Yeah, but Thomas Jefferson's version of Christianity is so logical. | ||
| No, so that's not this. | ||
| He removed all of the pretend parts of the Bible. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| He's not talking about that. | ||
| That Jesus guy, he said some cool shit. | ||
| Those miracles? | ||
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Bullshit. | |
| He's not talking about the Gospel of Thomas or something like that, where it's just all the miracles not there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, all that shit. | ||
| Just the sayings and stuff. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| He's talking about chimeras. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If you look into most versions of esoteric Christianity, a lot of the interpretations... | ||
| This is just one of my favorite pieces. | ||
| Most of the interpretations of it are like, don't come. | ||
| That's what a lot of it boils down to. | ||
| It's like the tree of wisdom of good and evil is an orgasm. | ||
| The fruit of the tree of good and evil is an orgasm. | ||
| And so you should never come. | ||
| It's so weird how all religions are obsessed with sex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So obsessed with controlling and regulating sex. | ||
| Because it's such a powerful force. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, and it's not a bad idea. | ||
| Like, if you're trying to get people to channel all of that... | ||
| It's why you so frequently see con men with food stuff. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because it is another base urge that you have. | ||
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Right. | |
| If you get someone to control that through your system, then you're way more likely to control them. | ||
| Well, and the other thing is, if everybody's getting laid all the time, nobody's going to work as hard, you know? | ||
| You got a lot of needs satisfied. | ||
| You're just going to kind of chill out. | ||
| Whereas if everybody is repressed and sexual, you're going to build the Sistine Chapel. | ||
| It's that kind of bullshit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Sublimation of sexual energy. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And that's why the aliens built the pyramids. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| So Alex Jones is into esoteric Christianity, which is weird as shit. | ||
| But at least we finally have an admission that it's not real Christianity. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| Not mainline Christianity. | ||
| I think we all knew about that. | ||
| Not even biblical Christianity. | ||
| But it's nice to hear it from his mouth. | ||
| And that means straight up, he might believe in the lost books of the Bible and forgotten books of Eden. | ||
| He might be into the Apocrypha, the Pseudepigrapha. | ||
| He might be into all of these... | ||
| Banished books. | ||
| There's some good shit in the Apocrypha. | ||
| The Apocrypha is... | ||
| No, and I'm not talking about any kind of logic or reason or even good deeds. | ||
| Just decent books. | ||
| They're great comic books. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| If you had an illuminated text of Jesus fighting dragons and murdering kids when he was a kid, that's some good shit. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I would definitely read that. | ||
| Like I said, I just like to hear it out of his mouth, and I'm excited about that. | ||
| Now let's go back to Manson. | ||
| No. | ||
| So, you know... | ||
| Manson killed Sharon Tate. | ||
| Do you know that? | ||
| Yeah, I heard. | ||
| Alex knows that too. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| And that's where our information diverges. | ||
| That'd be funny if I was like, I spent a long time researching Manson. | ||
| Wait, he did what? | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Are you shitting me? | ||
| This guy was a murderer? | ||
| I take back everything. | ||
| So those are probably the only thing we're going to agree with him in in this next clip. | ||
| Because he has sort of an alternate explanation. | ||
| Also, he got the French Revolution wrong. | ||
| The Jacobins. | ||
| He got the American Revolution wrong. | ||
| He got all of the revolutions wrong. | ||
| No, it was about esoteric Christianity, baby. | ||
| That could be. | ||
| All right, so here we go. | ||
| Let's talk Tate. | ||
| Talking Tate. | ||
| That's our new podcast. | ||
| Talking Tate. | ||
| With Dan and George. | ||
| Boy, Charlie Manson was jealous of the cult above him. | ||
| He was getting kicked out of that cult. | ||
| They weren't being nice to him anymore. | ||
| So what did he do? | ||
| He went and killed their high priestess. | ||
| He told people he did, too. | ||
| He went and killed their goddess. | ||
| He went and killed who they thought was the number one woman in the Hollywood cult of Roman Polanski and others. | ||
| While he was out of town, they killed her and they killed his baby. | ||
| They showed him what would happen if Charlie Manson didn't get to stay in the cult. | ||
| Charlie Manson created a list of people that weren't partying with him anymore and weren't, you know, buying his LSD anymore. | ||
| And he went in there and he killed him. | ||
| And that, my friends, is the rest of the story of Charlie Little Man Manson. | ||
| Is that where it ends? | ||
| Alex thinks he's Garrison Keillor. | ||
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Is that where it ends? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That was it! | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Also, I like how he just takes Manson's word for it. | ||
| He told people, so of course Manson was telling the truth. | ||
| But I think that's probably in reference to things that he did say about, like, wanting to kill a celebrity because there'd be more attention and she was a huge movie star. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, that sort of thing. | ||
| It's not like she's the goddess of an Illuminati cult or something like that. | ||
| He keeps saying that, like, at this point... | ||
| Charles Manson is a Renfield, but he wants to be a Dracula. | ||
| So he acts like a Dracula and kills their high priestess. | ||
| And it's like, okay. | ||
| Well, then doesn't he meet all the requirements of being a Dracula? | ||
| And that's why he went in prison for the rest of his life. | ||
| And never said any of this stuff. | ||
| It's like, no. | ||
| He was a paranoid, coke-addled fame whore who just wanted people to like him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Inexplicably, that was how he chose to do it. | ||
| Like, he was such an insane person, and at the same time, his motivations are so understandable. | ||
| If you just get into where it was that he came from. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Are you saying that he's reasonable? | ||
| No. | ||
| Just checking. | ||
| Just checking for our records. | ||
| Well, it's like how serial killers... | ||
| So many times you find out serial killers were raped as children repeatedly and they've been destroyed. | ||
| And you have Manson's history of... | ||
| Boarding houses and shit like that and going to prison as a kid. | ||
| Yeah, he was definitely sexually abused from the jump, man. | ||
| He was fucked up to start with. | ||
| Also, like 5 '4". | ||
| Very short man. | ||
| That's no good. | ||
| Such a short, short man. | ||
| Yeah, that's bad. | ||
| Super weird. | ||
| Those people... | ||
| I mean, I know this guy, Randy. | ||
| He told me they have no reason to live. | ||
| Randy Paul? | ||
| Randy Newman. | ||
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Short people got no one. | |
| All right. | ||
| Boy, let's move it along. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex discusses how these drugs are too strong. | ||
| He's saying that there's like marijuanas that are going around that are hallucinogenic. | ||
| Did you just say marijuanas? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Does he say marijuanas? | ||
| More or less. | ||
| Yeah, but you said marijuanas. | ||
| I might have been putting a little English on it. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I might have been trying to get fancy. | ||
| Got a little spin? | ||
| Got a little draw on that? | ||
| Might have been. | ||
| So he talks about that and then talks about psychotropic drugs, medicinals, and then he gets sidetracked in a weird... | ||
| Deconstruction of his own voice, kind of. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| It'll make sense in a minute. | ||
| Let's get in. | ||
| This is a very, very serious situation and is part of a larger operation to put you into a near dream state so that you're not really conscious. | ||
| Row, row, row your boat gently down the stream. | ||
| Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily. | ||
| Life is but a dream. | ||
| If I wanted to come on this show. | ||
| And talk to you like they do on NPR to put you into a trance. | ||
| I could do it. | ||
| But on purpose, I have a grating voice to get you out of your coma, to shake you free out of it. | ||
| So you're revealing that your voice is bullshit? | ||
| If I wanted to, I could talk just as sweet and just as pretty as all these fake people, but I don't do that. | ||
| Are you trying to now? | ||
| I'll let you hear my real voice. | ||
| And it's everything they hate. | ||
| It's masculine. | ||
| It's grating. | ||
| It's like an alarm in the night. | ||
| It's like a Marine Corps drill sergeant! | ||
| But I'm not copying a Marine Corps drill sergeant. | ||
| Drill sergeants are trying to encompass the classic status of a male instructing people in serious, dangerous things that affect their life so people listen! | ||
| So they understand what's going on! | ||
| So you've been warned! | ||
| So if you've got what it takes, you'll listen. | ||
| If you don't, you were warned. | ||
| We did our job. | ||
| And we'll be back in just about five minutes. | ||
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We are going to play you some very lovely music right now. | |
| And that is how the glory! | ||
| So I don't actually have any... | ||
| That's stupid. | ||
| Alex just gets lost in his own bullshit. | ||
| I enjoy that. | ||
| That's bananas. | ||
| At the end of the show, Matt Dubier from the quote-unquote Chicago affiliate is supposed to host the fourth hour. | ||
| But I think Alex doesn't trust him to host. | ||
| Because of course not. | ||
| So he cuts into the time and just rambles about how the globalists... | ||
| Aren't having kids because they don't want kids down in their underground arcs and stuff like that. | ||
| It's too nonsensical, but it's... | ||
| I wanted to bring it up. | ||
| That sounds fun. | ||
| That sounds more fun than what we're about to talk about, I'm assuming. | ||
| Because we're going back to Manson. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm going to be honest with you. | ||
| I'm actually kind of interested in... | ||
| I'm actually very fascinated in what his take already is on Manson and how it's going to go from here. | ||
| Because, again, that was like... | ||
| I'm a huge nerd about certain types of things like that. | ||
| So it's going to be fun. | ||
| And let me be perfectly clear. | ||
| This isn't the stuff I expected you to yell about. | ||
| That's later. | ||
| God damn you. | ||
| The Manson stuff I figured we'd be frustrated by, but also at the same time, like, what a dick. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex makes his narrative about Charles Manson a bit more robust. | ||
| He starts to try and deal with the idea that Charles Manson had environmental leanings. | ||
| And he basically says that he was a globalist. | ||
| Well, he already called him a CIA agent, so he's got to be part of the globalist empire. | ||
| He's basically saying that he's a proto-globalist. | ||
| And also a proto-Antifa. | ||
| Well, he's the grandfather of Antifa. | ||
| He's the grandfather of Antifa. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| And that he had first-hand knowledge of globalist plans. | ||
| That doesn't sound right. | ||
| No. | ||
| Charlie Manson is only just one guy. | ||
| They put into things, and he wrote not just one, but several songs with the Beach Boys and other bands, and he got to know the main Hollywood crew. | ||
| He got to learn, not just from the CIA and the drugs he was being given, but from all the different cults in Hollywood, how things ran and who really ran the world and what the plan was. | ||
| So when you hear a guy that probably took LSD over a thousand times... | ||
| Looking completely insane, looking like across from a homeless person and a guru, gibbering all this. | ||
| You say, where does he get it? | ||
| He got it directly from their battle plan. | ||
| So, go ahead. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Yeah, I'm listening. | ||
| If true, troubling. | ||
| Well. | ||
| If not true, which it is not, the globalists have an incredibly bad plan. | ||
| Right. | ||
| His fear of what the world was going to be. | ||
| Yes, he thought 90% of people were going to die in a race war. | ||
| Which, by the way, his fears of stuff are... | ||
| I actually recently watched In Bruges. | ||
| There's a part where the dwarf or little person... | ||
| Dinklage? | ||
| No, it wasn't Dinklage. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I thought it was Dinklage at first. | ||
| I'm just guessing. | ||
| I've never seen it. | ||
| No, it might as well be. | ||
| It's a movie? | ||
| It's a little person? | ||
| Gotta be Dinklage. | ||
| Right, you would think. | ||
| But he has a cocaine binge where he explains how there's going to be a race war, and that's based off of Manson's ideas. | ||
| Well, there's a bunch of Charlie Pride songs, too. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| There's a lot of neo-Nazi shit about how there's going to be a race war. | ||
| But the point being... | ||
| No. | ||
| That's a dumb, dumb, dumb thing to think. | ||
| But it's not even the race war part. | ||
| It's also Alex talking about the idea of climate change and saving the environment. | ||
| It's all of those things that seem incongruous. | ||
| That would have been a tertiary result of that plan were it to actually go around. | ||
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Right. | |
| You kill 90% of the people on the planet, I'm going to tell you this, climate's going to improve. | ||
| So in some ways... | ||
| I do respect Charlie Manson's plans. | ||
| Don't call him Charlie. | ||
| How can you not? | ||
| Now that we're all so familiar with him. | ||
| Also, here we go. | ||
| This next clip lays out what I mean. | ||
| It's not just the race war stuff. | ||
| This is what Alex is talking about. | ||
| They had Charlie Manson types who were the gurus over the universities in every city. | ||
| And again, that was somebody if things went wrong could be destroyed. | ||
| And the reason I mention all that is coming up in the next segment, I'm going to play a bunch of clips of Charlie Manson, and you're going to go, wait a minute, this is everything the Democrats and Al Gore and Antifa and George Soros says. | ||
| Now, this plan backfires. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| This plan backfires when Alex starts playing some clips. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And they kind of sound more like him. | ||
| And he doesn't address that at all, but we will. | ||
| I would imagine not. | ||
| I would imagine not. | ||
| We'll address that here in a second. | ||
| But in the meantime, Alex starts talking about globalists and just sort of generally discussing what they are about and, you know, spreading some fears. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And I have some thoughts on the other side. | ||
| And that's what we're dealing with, folks, is a bunch of pedophile devil worshippers today because now it's not sick enough to just, you know, have sex with hot chicks on altars. | ||
| That's just the entryway into it. | ||
| It gets much worse, the blood drinking. | ||
| But that's not enough. | ||
| You've got to ship out factor VIII to millions of people with HIV and hepatitis in it and give it to everybody. | ||
| And you've got to legalize giving blood if you've got HIV in California to spread that. | ||
| That's human sacrifice. | ||
| And you've got to sexualize children at a young age. | ||
| You've got to give them fluoride. | ||
| And you've got to give them Prozac. | ||
| You've got to give them Ritalin. | ||
| And you've got to bombard them with GMO. | ||
| You've got to slowly sacrifice the whole planet! | ||
| So, that's the globalists. | ||
| You know who's sexualizing children at a young age these days? | ||
| Roy Moore? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, and not just that, but the entire homeschooled evangelical community. | ||
| Like, one of the big things that they do is they create these child marriages in order to, once again, subjugate women. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And in order for, like, that way your father has complete control over your future, and the weirdest thing about it- The purity balls and shit? | ||
| Yeah, the weirdest thing about it is that you're betrothed. | ||
| You're supposed to be betrothed like that, and married at, like, 15. But before you actually move in with your husband, your dad is supposed to teach you for a few years what your duties are. | ||
| Like, it's batshit insane out there. | ||
| There are a bunch of dudes who go around and give these talks at evangelical meetings and conferences that are all vaguely like, you know, this is what women are supposed to do. | ||
| And then later on, people are like, wait, are you talking about 14-year-olds? | ||
| And they stop getting invited as much. | ||
| It's very uncomfortable. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| More what I wanted to bring up is that what he's talking about there, drinking blood, the globalists are drinking blood. | ||
| That's the blood libel. | ||
| That's anti-Semitism. | ||
| Yeah, but you know what? | ||
| Where are they getting it? | ||
| From the children. | ||
| You know, if they're just getting it from, like, blood vans, I think I'm fine with that. | ||
| They're not doing that. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| But that's classical anti-Semitism. | ||
| That's blood libel. | ||
| That's all that is. | ||
| All of these fears. | ||
| Trace back for a few millennia. | ||
| Yeah, back to about 1,100 or so. | ||
| And it's pathetic. | ||
| And the fact that people don't see through that is troubling. | ||
| And it's true. | ||
| It is true. | ||
| It's troubling and true. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex wants you to not be afraid. | ||
| Oh, good, because he's been stoking my fears for a while now. | ||
| You spoke too soon. | ||
| He wants you to not be afraid of the fluoride in the water much anymore. | ||
| Oh, that's good! | ||
| Because it's at a low enough level. | ||
| Although we have found in China there are levels of fluoride that are perhaps damaging. | ||
| Not in America, though. | ||
| Unless you live in Flint. | ||
| He's been spreading the word, and so the globalists know that people know. | ||
| And so now there's a new fear. | ||
| They've got studies out on what you can do with these systems. | ||
| Birds will just fall out of trees and won't care if ants eat them. | ||
| They can make you just go to sleep. | ||
| Flip the switch. | ||
| Everybody just, whoa, lies down. | ||
| You don't think the Pentagon doesn't want those type of weapons? | ||
| And you don't think the globalists that put fluoride in the water and all the rest of the stuff to hurt us wouldn't use that? | ||
| They know we know about fluoride now and the adjuvants in the water. | ||
| And they're moving away from that program because they know most of you are filtering your water. | ||
| And they're going to electromagnetic. | ||
| Is he going to pivot? | ||
| Just like Dr. Nick Begich just said, we should get back on the show very, very soon. | ||
| He said, forget the chemicals, Alex. | ||
| That's the child's play. | ||
| Because they have to, you know, get into your body. | ||
| They're going with 5G technology. | ||
| So this is Hamamoto shit. | ||
| So we're going on full cell phones are going to kill you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| And Dr. Group has been doing a good job of trying to spin these narratives on the show lately. | ||
| I don't like the way you said that. | ||
| Dr. Hamamoto, my favorite crazy. | ||
| Yes, your favorite crazy. | ||
| He has spouted a lot of this shit. | ||
| And Alex brings up Hamamoto's source as well. | ||
| Dr. Nick Begich, who we've gone over, is not a doctor. | ||
| And Dr. Hamamoto has a lot of those classic traits that he was describing about universe. | ||
| University gurus and the like. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| A little bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But Nick Bagich is not a doctor. | ||
| He has his degree. | ||
| Dr. Nick Bagich isn't a doctor? | ||
| He has a fake degree from a Sri Lankan university. | ||
| It is fake. | ||
| It is a fake diploma mill. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| He's just making up all this shit about electromagnetic waves and what have you. | ||
| It's just complete pseudoscience woo shit. | ||
| I was thinking about becoming a substitute teacher. | ||
| Do you think I could get one of those Sri Lankan degrees? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I'll write you up one. | ||
| Oh, sweet. | ||
| Could you draw it in crayon, too? | ||
| I have. | ||
| A fucking diploma mill that I run. | ||
| How do you think I pay rent? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This show's not making enough money. | ||
| See, now, I was a big fan of your cryptocurrency, DanCoin. | ||
| DanCoin. | ||
| But if you got a diploma mill, I like, one, that you're expanding your revenue streams. | ||
| That's always important to do. | ||
| They're called Danplomas. | ||
| Totally accredited. | ||
| That's like four different puns you've made already. | ||
| I'm in a weird mood. | ||
| Your pun ratio is high today. | ||
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I think I'm just trying to prepare you for what's to come. | |
| God damn it, Dan. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| Why are you doing this to me? | ||
| This guy who comes on his show later is deeply troubling. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| And we'll get to it in a minute. | ||
| But before we do, it turns out there's big news in terms of the world and how we're all going to be... | ||
| You know, one of the big problems I have with his hatred of the theoretical university gurus in the 60s was that, generally speaking, all of them, all of them were trying their best to react to what they saw as the 50s and the way that the Eisenhower era destroyed women. | ||
| Like, that's exactly what they were going for. | ||
| Unfortunately, a lot of them continued that in a different direction. | ||
| But one of the big things that they were trying to do was create a more expansive society and allow people to open up their minds in the same way that Ken Kesey and the electric Kool-Aid acid test would go around and do that. | ||
| And it's frustrating to me that you would malign them for the wrong reasons. | ||
| Like, they are deserving of much malignment for many... | ||
| I think to a certain extent what you look at is like a macro version of someone who's going through therapy. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| Let's say that you are really buttoned up and never speak your mind. | ||
| And you get therapy about speaking up for yourself and being assertive and all that. | ||
| And on the way to health. | ||
| You will probably scream at somebody. | ||
| You'll probably, on the path to getting better, you'll do something wrong. | ||
| Or you'll go too far. | ||
| And perhaps the 60s, in response to the 50s, the therapy of getting people help and trying to fix the woes of society, you end up metaphorically screaming at somebody. | ||
| And one of the biggest... | ||
| One of the biggest influences of so many of those gurus was the burgeoning therapeutic community at the time. | ||
| Again, I'm going to bring up Ken Kesey because he's one of the great chroniclers of why it was that the 60s all went wrong. | ||
| And his disillusionment when the 70s rolled around after he did Time in Mexico. | ||
| Right. | ||
| All of that stuff was very fascinating in that he did start to kind of deconstruct how many of those therapists were basing themselves off of false science. | ||
| I'm assuming the chat room is going wild for Celine. | ||
| Yeah, I'm liking that. | ||
| Don't mention it. | ||
| She just wants attention. | ||
| But, I mean, it is something that comes out of that. | ||
| And the way that he's... | ||
| Portraying these people is so wrong. | ||
| Because they did so many wrong things. | ||
| And if you're doing... | ||
| And he's missing the point because the things that they did wrong are the things that he supports himself. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Whereas he's creating this false reality... | ||
| Bye, Celine. | ||
| What an asshole. | ||
| She's just making a drop-in cameo. | ||
| That's what Celine is doing today. | ||
| She's the best. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| The worst and the best simultaneously. | ||
| No, it's... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how far to go in why it is that Charlie Manson... | ||
| Now I'm doing it all the time. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Repetitively. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Charles Manson... | ||
| You could make a lot of arguments that Charles Manson was an offshoot of the worst tendencies of the 60s. | ||
| At the same time, you could make a lot of arguments that serial killer's gonna serial kill. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, they're gonna happen in any era. | ||
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| And just the particular details of them are what are circumstantial to the era. | ||
| Yeah, the trappings have nothing to do with nothing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, let's get to this next clip. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because I feel like we wandered down a road. | ||
| Alex is the Zodiac Killer. | ||
| And Selene completely distracted me from whatever point we were trying to make. | ||
| I completely lost track the moment I saw her. | ||
| I think I tried to start setting up this clip. | ||
| And I interrupted you, which means everybody gets to drink. | ||
| This weekend, there's big news about the world and religion. | ||
| There's the big news? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They announced this weekend they're going to have a one-world religion based on worshipping AI, and everyone will have to submit to it. | ||
| Other religions will be banned. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I think I might be okay with that. | ||
| You can criticize any other religion, and then you've got to just make them all one big thing. | ||
| Just like they tell you in the movie Tron. | ||
| Everything is them telling it. | ||
| The big giant mainframe, and it's grabbing in all other programs. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Put him on the grid, let him play for a while, and then blow him away. | ||
| Impression. | ||
| Not a good one. | ||
| There's something different about this one. | ||
| The new church of the AI god is even creepier than I imagined, CNET says. | ||
| What did Elon Musk warn you in the last few months? | ||
| He goes, watch out for tech leaders coming out and saying AI gods. | ||
| I can't get into it. | ||
| I've signed non-disclosures, but it's dangerous. | ||
| We're all in danger. | ||
| We're all in danger. | ||
| And the left's like, I can't wait to merge with it. | ||
| Now don't say mother and father. | ||
| Masculinity's bad. | ||
| So we're back to that. | ||
| We're back to that from 2015. | ||
| We're all the way back there, huh? | ||
| And then also, he's completely lying about Elon Musk. | ||
| Elon Musk subtweeted a guy. | ||
| There's a guy who's probably a goof or some sort of publicity stunt is starting a church to worship the AI godhead. | ||
| All of which is most likely a tongue-in-cheek bullshit kind of idea. | ||
| Yeah, and Elon Musk tweeted, you are not the person of all the people who shouldn't be. | ||
| Making a religion or something along those lines. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Complete bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex is manufacturing dialogue in one of the most disgraceful ways there. | ||
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Right. | |
| I signed a non-disclosure agreement. | ||
| Oh, it's coming. | ||
| It's dangerous. | ||
| Now, the fascinating thing about that- How pathetic is that? | ||
| The fascinating thing about that is that AI would be the closest thing that we've ever come to that is actually a real god. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, that's a fascinating idea. | ||
| Like, perhaps a religion should develop around an AI. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, the way that technology expands exponentially, or it progresses, not on a non-linear fashion, like, what we will end up having... | ||
| A geometric progression, yeah. | ||
| What we'll have access to within the next, like, 15, 20 years in terms of the growth of technology is, like, it's almost unpredictable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And some people's models, some futurist models... | ||
| Are insanely, like, you know, just everything being able to communicate with each other, all knowledge, all centralized. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| A self-learning, self-perpetuating computer would be omniscient, essentially. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I would be fine with... | ||
| I mean, I have some questions about AI, quite frankly. | ||
| Like, I always think about this. | ||
| Like, can it swim? | ||
| That is one good question. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Second question. | ||
| After we figure that one out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Would a thinking robot, like, if you could really sincerely have them be able to respond to commands and do rudimentary work? | ||
| Full on pass the Turing test, are you saying? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Something along those lines? | ||
| Would they be capable of experiencing boredom? | ||
| That is a very good question. | ||
| Because that is a line. | ||
| That's a line for me. | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| If they were capable of experiencing boredom, they would experience boredom at the same exponential level. | ||
| So one second of boredom for something along those lines would be infinite. | ||
| And the search for robot novelty would be insane. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Because the way that we deal with boredom is generally through vice or through novelty. | ||
| We find something interesting and like, oh, that's weird. | ||
| For a robot, especially an omniscient robot, Novelty could be... | ||
| Now we're getting into an episode of Futurama where Bender goes on a Bender. | ||
| Or Black Mirror. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, that's the future. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But now let's go to the past. | ||
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| Alex Jones has something he wants to say about the past. | ||
| And then I'm going to have some pretty serious rebuttals afterwards. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Okay, let me get right back into the news. | ||
| No puns then? | ||
| The scientific elite starting in the 1850s in Britain with the governing system of the world at that time being the British Empire. | ||
| So let's just stop there. | ||
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No! | |
| So he's saying that the British Empire was the ruling system of the world in the 1850s. | ||
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Now, let me tell you. | |
| In the 1850s. | ||
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Let me tell you what was going on. | |
| Is he going to go in the 1850s? | ||
| It's a bad history. | ||
| I pulled together a list of some of the things that were going on in the 1850s that were not much to do with the British Empire being the rulers of the world. | ||
| Scientific elites. | ||
| Well, first of all, we got the American West was being explored. | ||
| Like, California was becoming a state. | ||
| U.S. destiny! | ||
| Expansionism had taken over. | ||
| The Monroe Doctrine. | ||
| Imperial Russia was on the march. | ||
| Who would have guessed? | ||
| There was a war in Crimea. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| What's old is new again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Ottoman Empire was still in play. | ||
| They were kicking ass in the 1850s. | ||
| They were kind of on their way down, but they were still at a great range of power. | ||
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Right. | |
| The Qing Dynasty is going strong in China for another 60 years after this. | ||
| Really? | ||
| The King Dynasty? | ||
| Q-I-N-G. | ||
| That's Ching. | ||
| Ching, that's what I thought. | ||
| Anyway, so those are some of the things that are going on. | ||
| And also, there was the Indian mutiny against British rule. | ||
| Yeah, that was... | ||
| So Britain was dealing with some of that shit. | ||
| There was the opium wars that were going on. | ||
| Yeah, which was Britain's fault. | ||
| Britain was not. | ||
| The colonial British system was not ruling the world in any way back then. | ||
| It was like dead center of the complete collapse of the British colonial system. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So Alex is... | ||
| I mean, we're talking when Haiti and the Dominican Republic started fighting back against... | ||
| He hasn't even presented his thesis and he's wrong. | ||
| He's just given the setting and like, no. | ||
| Although I am wrong. | ||
| That was pre-American Revolution. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Haiti and the Dominican Republic. | ||
| It's pronounced Haishi. | ||
| Haishi? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Made the decision. | ||
| To establish world government. | ||
| So... | ||
| In the 1850s. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The British government, the scientific elite in the British government, the colonial British government, the empire that was running the world back then, decided they needed global government in 1850. | ||
| Could have swore they thought of that one a long time before that. | ||
| In 1850, they'd just invented a sewing machine. | ||
| Hey, don't knock that. | ||
| That was very hard to do. | ||
| No, it's cool. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| But the scientific elite were not doing all that much in 1850. | ||
| True world government, not just empire. | ||
| And they decided to use science to do it and always be so ahead of everybody else that they couldn't be defeated, not just militarily, but culturally. | ||
| They had barely understood pasteurization. | ||
| Where there aren't any families anymore. | ||
| People are programmable. | ||
| That's the final revolution, is what the globalist technocrats call it. | ||
| And they've written books, they've written white papers, they have conferences. | ||
| They had a consensus 160 years ago. | ||
| They didn't. | ||
| You know what he's talking about? | ||
| I figured it out. | ||
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What? | |
| Charles Darwin wrote The Origin of the Species in 1855. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| I think that's it. | ||
| That's what he's really talking about. | ||
| I think that's it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I think that's the only thing he's talking about, because that's like the scientific shit he hates. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The idea of, I guess, the origin of the species is a white paper. | ||
| Evolution. | ||
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Or whatever. | |
| He hates evolution. | ||
| He hates the idea of... | ||
| Well, if you're an esoteric Christian, you have to hate evolution. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Yeah, that has to be number one on the list. | ||
| That's legitimately the only thing I can think of that was relevant in 1850s. | ||
| You know, the Western world. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That he could be talking about. | ||
| Well, I don't know my history, but I'm pretty sure that's when they found out heliocentricity. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Really? | ||
| No. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I was like, that seems off. | ||
| That seems off. | ||
| No. | ||
| That shows how dumb I am. | ||
| But I kind of feel like Alex is still mad about that, too. | ||
| Oh, definitely. | ||
| That shows how much I trust you. | ||
| You gave me a second of like, hold on now. | ||
| So, earlier, Alex said that he was going to play some clips of Charles Manson, and that they were going to show that Charles Manson, Charlie, if you're nasty, he is like Antifa, he is like the Democrats, and he is like Al Gore. | ||
| Here's the first clip. | ||
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Charles Manson! | |
| Here's the first clip. | ||
| Charles Manson is like Al Gore. | ||
| Here's the first clip, which he specifically says is like Al Gore. | ||
| Let's listen to it and see if it sounds like Al Gore. | ||
| So, here it is. | ||
| Charles Manson. | ||
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No, the reality is they did what they did. | |
| They're responsible for their own actions. | ||
| I'm responsible for my actions. | ||
| Let's talk about the family. | ||
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I've come off a close few times. | |
| Come on, didn't you, Charles? | ||
| What do you mean, come on, didn't you, man? | ||
| I ain't lying to you. | ||
| If you think I'm lying to you, you're wasting my time and your time. | ||
| Okay, let's not lie. | ||
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There's no reason to. | |
| There's no reason to. | ||
| Why are you guilty of that? | ||
| I'm guilty of... | ||
| What am I guilty of? | ||
| I'm guilty of thinking that I had rights in a courtroom. | ||
| That sounds like Alice. | ||
| That sounds a lot like Alice. | ||
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When my father died in all the mother wars, I thought, man, I'd stand in the courtroom and tell the judge it'd be all over 15, 20 minutes. | |
| I'm busy. | ||
| I got some appointments. | ||
| And it started making money. | ||
| And when it started making money, whoa, money takes precedence. | ||
| They're going to put me down on the ground for the money. | ||
| As long as they make the money, they don't care who did it. | ||
| Who did it's not important. | ||
| And if I had a... | ||
| I've done it. | ||
| It'd be worse than if I hadn't. | ||
| Okay, consider. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Well, consider. | ||
| I tell you like this. | ||
| Yeah, I chopped up nine hogs, and I'm going to chop up some more, you mother... | ||
| I'm going to kill you as many as I can. | ||
| I'm going to pile you up to the sky. | ||
| I figure about 50 million. | ||
| If I can get about 50 million of you, I might be able to save my trees and my air and my water and my wildlife. | ||
| Do I kill 50 million people? | ||
| Well, that's just a drop in the bucket of what's really coming. | ||
| That's just a drop in the bucket of what's really coming. | ||
| And we know. | ||
| Bioweapon, plague releases, you name it. | ||
| You've got electromagnetic systems. | ||
| You can flip a switch. | ||
| People just go to sleep. | ||
| There'll be a bunch of skeletons that gotta come in in a few months to clean up. | ||
| Dan, this is where normally... | ||
| Now, I know you don't have enough time. | ||
| If we weren't doing this episode live, I feel like you would have spent an entire weekend on that one clip and just gone, like, sentence by sentence... | ||
| Through Manson? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Sentence by sentence through Manson, pulled together a clip of Alex saying the exact same fucking thing! | ||
| I don't even need to, because at the end there, he's like, yep, we know. | ||
| It's basically him being like, Manson, you get it. | ||
| Yeah, I know! | ||
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No, he's crazy. | |
| He's saying that stuff about 50 million people and all that in response to being antagonized by this interviewer. | ||
| He's not saying that, like, I believe this. | ||
| He's saying it to shock the guy. | ||
| And none of that sounds like Al Gore, except for, I guess Al Gore likes trees. | ||
| Save the trees. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there's that. | ||
| Now here's exhibit B. Alex Jones believes that Charles Manson is super into a one-world government. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Charles Manson wants a one-world government. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
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Man doesn't back up to his fear. | |
| He goes straight into his fear. | ||
| We've got to get a one-world government. | ||
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We've got to have it, man. | |
| This is just the bombed out little drug delivery guy, the CIA, who heard all this, you know, the Satan orgies, and is now up there being our guru. | ||
| He's just repeating it when, what's he look like? | ||
| An inbred meth head. | ||
| He looks like an Antifa, doesn't he? | ||
| We're going to come back with more of these clips, ladies and gentlemen, but this is who we're facing. | ||
| This is who we're dealing with, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Now, before I go any further, if you don't financially support us, Choros will win. | ||
| If you don't support us, George Soros will win. | ||
| Cheers to everybody. | ||
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There we go. | |
| Now, he pivots to an ad. | ||
| Not just on, like, be afraid. | ||
| It's our enemies are goddamn Charles Manson. | ||
| When accidentally, like, him playing these things, it's very clear that... | ||
| Sounds a lot like Alex. | ||
| It sounds exactly like Alex. | ||
| It sounds very similar. | ||
| It's freakishly similar to Alex. | ||
| The one world government thing isn't like Alex at all, but at the same time, back in the 60s, the idea of a unified world government was a very popular idea. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's not like he was the only person who ever espoused that. | ||
| That was a pretty big hippie idea. | ||
| That was one of the... | ||
| And it was also, coincidentally, the time when the UN was maybe the most popular it's ever been. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, that was shortly after... | ||
| Because they were afraid. | ||
| Yeah, exactly! | ||
| That was shortly after the end of World War II, and the Cold War was just really starting to ramp up, and all of the proxy wars were just really starting to begin. | ||
| There was the hope of being able to avoid stuff like Vietnam in the future. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Through UN action. | ||
| Yeah, and it's entirely possible that at that point in time, had we had a one-world government... | ||
| We wouldn't have done that. | ||
| You sound like Charlie. | ||
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Ah. | |
| So here's the, oh, Vietnam, Charlie, oh boy. | ||
| Anyway, here's the next clip. | ||
| I prefer spider leadership. | ||
| In the next clip, Alex, I don't even know what point he's trying to make, but it doesn't work. | ||
| Here he is talking about man-made global warming in 1987. | ||
| Here's Charles Manson. | ||
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I tried to stop the Vietnam War, and I did it. | |
| And all the things I did, I did without breaking the law. | ||
| Because your law is 1776. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Why would you play that clip, Alex? | ||
| Why would you do that? | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| He said your slogan! | ||
| So anyway, it goes on from here. | ||
| It is definitely worth stopping. | ||
| Alex is the least self-aware person in the history of the world. | ||
| He's really fucking lucky that it flashed away from his face on video, because there had to be a moment where he's like, uh-oh, I really should have listened to these clips before. | ||
| Because what he's doing is he's just playing the clips that Paul Joseph Watson put in an article. | ||
| On Infowars. | ||
| You think Paul Joseph Watson is starting to troll Alex? | ||
| He might be. | ||
| I think that'd be fun. | ||
| I think he might be working on an exit strategy. | ||
| Yeah, I think that'd be smart of him. | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson wrote an article about how Charles Manson was an environmentalist, and he just cherry-picked these tiny little pieces from interviews without looking at the big picture. | ||
| But anyway, listen to the rest of this fucking thing. | ||
| We already got the 1776. | ||
| Listen to how much he sounds like Alex throughout the rest of this. | ||
| There's so much. | ||
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White papers. | |
| White papers. | ||
| Why don't you tell them the water is so bad the fish can't live in it? | ||
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Why don't you tell them that the polar caps are melting because you're creating so much heat with this machine? | |
| You see what I'm saying? | ||
| You won't face the fact that there's a holy war moving upon the planet Earth. | ||
| over the walls. | ||
| You want to blame one guy for it. | ||
| I've seen it. | ||
| I witnessed it go by. | ||
| I've seen the children, what they were trying to do, and I was sympathetic with them. | ||
| But you might say, I'm a devil in this respect, that I never broke will or entered into anyone's Alex Jones constantly talks about free association. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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From your words, as Mr. Emmons quotes them in this book, it's clear that you were guilty of murder, and yet he says in all his conversations with you, he never heard you express remorse. | |
| Have you never felt it? | ||
| Remorse for what? | ||
| You people have done everything in the world to me. | ||
| Doesn't that give me equal right? | ||
| I can do anything I want to you people at any time I want to, because that's what you've done to me. | ||
| Alex believes that all of his actions are justified because of how evil the globalists are. | ||
| Whatever they're doing is what they say we're doing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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If you spit in my face and smack me in the mouth and throw me in solitary confinement for nothing, what do you think's going to happen when I get out of here? | |
| What do you think's going to happen to you? | ||
| The things that you create in here. | ||
| Chimeras. | ||
| So, there you go. | ||
| If you go out on the street and look at the Antifa people... | ||
| Or you look at the average leftist at the Hillary event that we just sent a nice reporter out to cover. | ||
| They were in her face, screaming at her, attacking her, flipping her off, grabbing the microphone. | ||
| They all have that trashiness to them, that stupidity to them, that glaze in their eyes. | ||
| There's nothing there. | ||
| They're just kind of broadcasting the corrupt spirit of the world. | ||
| They're not themselves. | ||
| That's a great way to respond to that clip because he can't deal with the content of it at all without people being like, hold on now. | ||
| I think the biggest reveal, though, is not all of the shit that he said that is exactly what Alex says. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or very similar. | ||
| And especially like that, you know, Lick, if they come after me, I'll kick everybody's ass. | ||
| And you're like, Alex, that's... | ||
| That's you. | ||
| Flashback to him screaming at Adam Schiff. | ||
| Yeah, you have these paranoid fantasies of somebody attacking you, which will then give you the right to do whatever it is you want. | ||
| The biggest thing, though, that I felt was a huge reveal is, listen, I'm not a devil, but I'm a devil in some way. | ||
| Alex talks about the evil in him. | ||
| Exactly, which is such an Alex thing of like... | ||
| Hey, I'm not perfect. | ||
| I have evil inside of me. | ||
| And that's how I know the good. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's, to me, so much of what Alex is. | ||
| There's so much there. | ||
| And then also... | ||
| All right. | ||
| Quick question. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did Charles Manson die? | ||
| Yesterday, yes. | ||
| Or did he... | ||
| Turn into teeth. | ||
| Pretend to be Bill Hicks for a long time. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then pretend to be Alex Jones. | ||
| And he was then replaced by a DARPA spy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's actually go with Russian agent. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Let's go with Russian agent who had a swastika tattooed on his forehead. | ||
| That way he could differentiate himself from the real Charles Manson, Alex Jones. | ||
| So when the fake one dies... | ||
| Charles Manson, who is now living as Alex Jones, goes on to his show and tries to rehab his image. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Gives himself an entirely new narrative. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I think we found that they're saying the same shit. | ||
| As realistic as anything Alex is saying on this episode. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| So, Alex... | ||
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Who's there? | |
| Is somebody there? | ||
| It's me. | ||
| It's Manson. | ||
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Call me Charlie. | |
| Manson, hold on a second. | ||
| Call me Charlie. | ||
| Why are you holding up a mirror right now? | ||
| Alex, you busted. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| Haven't done that in a long time. | ||
| That's been a while. | ||
| So anyway, Alex last week. | ||
| Is there a reason we haven't done that one in a long time? | ||
| I feel like there is. | ||
| Got rusty. | ||
| So... | ||
| Last week, Alex Jones did a 36-hour marathon because he needed money. | ||
| I recall. | ||
| Money bomb! | ||
| Some people made fun of him quite a bit. | ||
| Vice did an article that we discussed that covered all of the wrong aspects of it. | ||
| And it turns out Alex is going to do another marathon next week, mostly motivated out of spite. | ||
| We're going to have a 34-hour live broadcast next week again because of Vice. | ||
| And others didn't like this. | ||
| We're going to do another one. | ||
| It was very popular. | ||
| Got about a million and a half new listeners and viewers during that. | ||
| So it's very, very successful to reach out to new people. | ||
| We're going to start doing those since they don't like them and try to demoralize us. | ||
| That's coming up on Monday. | ||
| That's just, I need money. | ||
| I mean, there's no other... | ||
| Why would you even try and hide it under that veneer of like... | ||
| We're doing this not because I need money. | ||
| We're doing this because I want to troll these assholes. | ||
| To the chat room, I see a question. | ||
| Those posters that are behind me are, in fact, the foods that should not eat to get gir. | ||
| That is what those are. | ||
| The old-time freezing point reference that'll never be explained. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Actually, I think we did do an episode wherein we explained, or at least we talked about those. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Maybe. | ||
| Go back through the archives, Policy Wonks, and maybe you'll find eventually us talking about the food that you shouldn't eat to Getker. | ||
| Now let me tell you, don't eat a pigeon with an ice lolly. | ||
| It's a bad idea. | ||
| It'll give you asthma. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| Ice cream, ginger salad, dead. | ||
| There's a bunch of things you can't eat with jinkle beans. | ||
| I know that much. | ||
| I don't know what a jinkle bean is, but anyway. | ||
| I'll tell you this, I don't know what a mangosteen is. | ||
| You don't know what a mangosteen is? | ||
| What's a mangosteen? | ||
| All I know is that... | ||
| Maybe 12 years ago, Ludacris was on Twitter yelling about Mangosteen, and Aziz Ansari was trying to get him to not take Mangosteen. | ||
| Apparently there's some danger, so we'll give you some... | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I'm just a big fan of Neem Leaf and Chicken Egg giving you rheumatism. | ||
| Rheumatism, man. | ||
| Don't fuck with it. | ||
| So anyway, in this next... | ||
| Oh, we're done with Charles Manson, buddy. | ||
| Oh, thank God. | ||
| No, that's not a good thing. | ||
| No, that's not a good thing? | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| I'm not even going to introduce this clip. | ||
| This is Mike Down. | ||
| And we have Simon Roche on, who is a prominent activist and individual who's been exposing the massive white genocide in South Africa, in Zimbabwe, in many of these other African countries, where everybody's now basically starving to death. | ||
| They have epic Weimar Republic inflation because they've driven any infrastructure out. | ||
| It's just a thing of conquest. | ||
| So South Africans hold Black Monday protests over white farmer murders. | ||
| That's Newsweek. | ||
| Murders of white farmers spark protests in South Africa. | ||
| That's CBS News. | ||
| Epidemic of South African farm murders continues as gunmen shoot elderly victims dead. | ||
| Now, these are groups of ANC-connected black communists doing it. | ||
| That's what the whole Black Lives Matter thing is like international. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| This is trouble. | ||
| You can pick your mic back up now if you like. | ||
| Alex has this guy, Simon Roshan, to talk about. | ||
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White genocide in South Africa. | |
| You know what's interesting? | ||
| My girlfriend actually grew up in South Africa. | ||
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She did. | |
| At the end of apartheid. | ||
| She lived through the end of apartheid. | ||
| Yeah, so I do not have any thoughts. | ||
| I have no thoughts about it whatsoever. | ||
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Well, good. | |
| Let's cheers. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Fucking Christ. | ||
| The gall. | ||
| To even be like, hey, I can't believe black people are angry at white people in these countries. | ||
| The chrome-plated balls on these fuckheads. | ||
| Like, this is astonishing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's pretty crazy. | ||
| Look, look. | ||
| Here's the only thing. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| I want you to say whatever you're about to say, but I also want you to know... | ||
| The situation they're talking about specifically is crazier than you think. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But go ahead. | ||
| All I'm going to say is if there is any place in the world where you could look at white genocide happening and be like, I guess that's fine. | ||
| It would be those two places. | ||
| But you have a soft no. | ||
| I'm a soft no. | ||
| But in those two places, you've got to be a little bit like, okay, guys, you shouldn't do it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But I get it. | ||
| So Alex didn't read this article. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| I'm going to read an article about this Black Friday? | ||
| Black Monday? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| It is not at all what he's talking about. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| And he is being misled by this guy who's coming on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Who is a part of what would amount to a militia group. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| For white people. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very heavily armed. | ||
| And we'll get to some of their craziness here in a little bit. | ||
| But let me just read this article to you. | ||
| So, before you read it, just recap the story that we were told. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Which is that white farmers were killed. | ||
| They're being slaughtered. | ||
| Were killed by... | ||
| A and C black militia groups, which is what Black Lives Matter is. | ||
| And he's implying a connection to Black Lives Matter worldwide. | ||
| So that is Alex Jones' interpretation, and I guarantee you that as Dan reads this article, it will line up perfectly with truth. | ||
| There's an article from Al Jazeera here. | ||
| Most white farmers across South Africa donned black clothing and gathered on motorways and roads in a procession of tractors and trucks to protest against what they described as a weak state response to farm murders. | ||
| the racially charged protest very few rallying were not white comes days after two white farmers were sentenced to more than 10 years in jail for assaulting a black man in a case that has also stirred racial tensions Interesting that that's what the protest was about, not what Alex is actually even describing. | ||
| White commercial farmers have long complained that they bear the brunt of rising violent crime and say the government ignores their plight. | ||
| So what do you think so far? | ||
| What I think so far is that perhaps Alex... | ||
| Did not read this article. | ||
| I'm going to go on in the article. | ||
| Earlier in 2017, Africa Check, which is a fact-checking political organization, said since there were no reliable estimates on how many people were working and living on farms, it was close to impossible to calculate a farm murder rate. | ||
| It also laid rest to accusations that a white genocide was unfolding in the country after Mike Cernovich, a prominent American white supremacist, tweeted in late 2016 that, quote, white genocide is real in South Africa. | ||
| Here is an interesting other quote from a guy named Gareth Newham, who's the head of Governance, Crime, and Justice Division. | ||
| Again, even if it was, you'd kind of be like, I get it. | ||
| So this guy, Gareth Newham, is the head of the Governance, Crime, and Justice Division of the Pretoria-based Institute for Security Studies. | ||
| Quote, within the white farming community, there are white right-wing sentiments and a belief that these attacks are orchestrated, and they've been lobbying European countries, which has only resulted in a politicization of the issue. | ||
| But they think it's only them, and that's a mistake. | ||
| Of course, their concerns vis-a-vis murders, violence, their concerns are serious. | ||
| Reasonable. | ||
| But they also need to appreciate that it is a national issue. | ||
| Though claims of a white genocide continue to circulate on social media, with memes calling on the world to act and stop whites being murdered en masse, these have been met mostly with ridicule by most South Africans. | ||
| Last week, the South African Police Service released its annual stats of crime and found that there were more than 19,000 murders in the country, or 34 murders per 100,000 people between Not bad. | ||
| What? | ||
| For some bit of context, white South Africans make up 1.8% of the country's murders while being under 9% of the population. | ||
| Statistically, they have a shockingly lower than expected murder rate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Mike Cernovich. | ||
| But, thank God that one of our cast of lunatic characters saved the day by being a fucking racist pile of garbage. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm not sure, I don't have this article pulled up anymore, but I found a very interesting thing about this guy, Simon Roche. | ||
| Apparently, what he has done, he is a part of a group called the Swedelanders, and I'm not pronouncing that correct. | ||
| That's already, I'm already out. | ||
| It means Southlanders, and they are a group that is... | ||
| Militarizing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They believe that a race war is coming and that they are going to be the victims of it. | ||
| And so they're basically... | ||
| So essentially he's having Charles Manson on the show. | ||
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| Ironic on the day after Charles Manson dies. | ||
| Okay, here's the article. | ||
| This is an article on a website called angrywhitemen.org, which is dedicated to tracking the connections within the white supremacist alt-right world. | ||
| Oh, because it sounds like it could be a very different website. | ||
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It could be on the other side of it. | |
| It's really interesting. | ||
| I'll post a link up to it because I don't have time to go through all of it. | ||
| But one of the things that's really fascinating is if you do the kind of research that this website has done, you see a very focused and intentional campaign on the part of Simon Roche and other members of the Swedelanders to approach really, really fucked up versions of the right wing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And get them to try and publicize and fundraise for them to the extent that they even have a recording of a phone call. | ||
| This guy... | ||
| Man, I'm sorry. | ||
| I really should have prepared this a little bit better. | ||
| Does Simon Roche have an Afrikaner accent? | ||
| He's South African, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So does he have an Afrikaner accent? | ||
| I believe so, yeah. | ||
| It's close to Australian, even. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's very similar to the New Zealand accent. | ||
| So, I'll just read here from this blog, because this is specifically about Simon Roche. | ||
| The founder of the southern nationalist blog Occidental Dissent, Brad Griffin, has penned a number of inflammatory articles under the pseudonym Hunter Wallace. | ||
| In 2012, for example, he wrote that, quote, Hitler was justified in conquering Norway, and claimed that in 150 years, mass murderer Anders Breivik will be viewed as, quote, the European John Brown. | ||
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Don't support Anders. | |
| In a March 16th, 2017 post, Griffin wrote that he was contacted by a representative of the Swedelanders. | ||
| He explained that he had received several calls from an unknown number. | ||
| When he finally answered the phone, a gentleman by the name of Simon Roche introduced himself and informed him that an acquaintance passed Griffin's number to him. | ||
| Later, he revealed that he accidentally recorded the conversation between him and Roche and posted the audio on his blog as proof. | ||
| During the call, a portion of which is included here on this website, Roche explains that he and other Swedelanders are currently touring the US as part of a fundraising mission. | ||
| Roche says that he was hoping Griffin would cover the Swedelanders organization on his blog. | ||
| telling Roche that he has, quote, written a few things about the crazy situation going on in Southern Africa. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| So there's a bunch of connections here that are intentionally made with white nationalist blogs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And that's not a coincidence. | |
| One thing that's really important to remember, and it's actually really hard to remember, is that... | ||
| Apartheid didn't end a long time ago. | ||
| Like I said, my girlfriend lived through the end of apartheid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She is not 40 years older than me. | ||
| You do like them old, though. | ||
| I do like them older, though. | ||
| No, it's insane because, of course, listen to these assholes. | ||
| You can tell that it's that same white victimization that comes from them discovering, oh, no! | ||
| We don't run the world anymore. | ||
| It's so much more fucked up than that. | ||
| God damn you. | ||
| So I'm going to finish this article on Al Jazeera, and then we'll jump back into Alex's interview with him. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So Jillian Godsell, a lecturer at the Witt School of Governance, told Al Jazeera... | ||
| Jillian? | ||
| Is it with a G? | ||
| It's a G. So it's probably Gillian. | ||
| Gillian? | ||
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Maybe. | |
| I don't care. | ||
| Gillian. | ||
| She told Al Jazeera that the claim of rising farm murders was a, quote, proxy for something else. | ||
| Quote, I don't think this is about murders. | ||
| The number of deaths, we don't know if there are whites or black farmers who were killed. | ||
| Some say 30% of those murdered were black workers. | ||
| People seem to be grieving Yeah, the end of apartheid. | ||
| A lot of these farmers were flying apartheid-era flags. | ||
| Who would have guessed? | ||
| Farm rights or whatever. | ||
| Again. | ||
| That is about wanting to go back to a status quo wherein you had all the power over another group of people. | ||
| Again, even if it was a white genocide, you'd be like, I get it. | ||
| Here is another fact and a stat that is very important. | ||
| According to a recent land audit, white Southern Africans are 8.9% of the population and they own 73% of the agricultural land. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, still. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Still. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is a very interesting thing. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| In that, even at the end of apartheid, the compassion that was shown to this very, very small minority. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
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God! | |
| I mean, again... | ||
| It's absurd. | ||
| Look, one of the reasons I'm a soft no on white genocide is because of that. | ||
| Every time that white people have finally had to relinquish all of the power and only had more. | ||
| Most of the power, they've been treated with such, such compassion. | ||
| It's bananas. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So all that stuff. | ||
| Which they would never have shown. | ||
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No. | |
| Which they have historically never shown. | ||
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No. | |
| Not when they needed to. | ||
| I like how I'm calling white people they. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well. | ||
| I think at this point I've proven that I'm a self-hating white person. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But the issue comes down to that this is not about any kind of idea of white genocide. | ||
| It's not about farmer murders. | ||
| And I actually looked it up. | ||
| Even the reported statistics that they can find about farmers that are murdered are down. | ||
| The peak of them were in the late 90s. | ||
| Well, in the same way that crime in the United States has been significantly dropping ever since the 60s. | ||
| It has been consistent, and yet one of the easiest ways to stoke white fear is by acting as though crime slash... | ||
| Black crime is what's really causing all of your issues. | ||
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The knockout game. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's all the same bullshit. | ||
| Even the protest, as Alex described it, is that this is against the murders of farm workers. | ||
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It's not. | |
| And the protest was about white people hurting people and how that should be fine. | ||
| Right, yeah, yeah. | ||
| These white people went to prison and we don't like it. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, of course. | |
| Because they were just fighting back against this nonsense. | ||
| And, like, again, as that article made very clear, and I completely agree with it, The concern over violence and murder rates are real. | ||
| That's something that's real, but personalizing it and making it your victim narrative is wrong because it's a national problem. | ||
| And statistically, as it's shown there, 1.8% of the murders are white people. | ||
| And it's the same thing here. | ||
| The statistics are not... | ||
| Interracial murder as an issue. | ||
| Generally speaking, murder is within each, like, if you're a white person, you're 90% plus likely to be murdered by a white person. | ||
| Generally people you know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, great. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| This interview is hot garbage, and so I haven't included most of it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| We don't need to listen to this fucking asshole. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| But here is Alex saying one of the worst things ever. | ||
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Ugh. | |
| But I mean, explain what's happening there when we come back from break and the emergency plan, because as you said, already... | ||
| South Africa is one of the highest crime rates in the world. | ||
| It's collapsing. | ||
| The populations are just killing each other en masse. | ||
| People believe if you rape a baby, if you have HIV, it makes you... | ||
| Well, I mean, it's just descending back into absolute barbarism. | ||
| And I gotta ask you, why not just evacuate? | ||
| And then it's very sad these folks will all just kill each other. | ||
| For whatever reason, it's very, very sad. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Stay with us. | ||
| Fuck you with your very, very sad nonsense, Alex. | ||
| Hey, white people. | ||
| Evacuate. | ||
| Evacuate. | ||
| That's his argument. | ||
| You know what that argument is very similar to? | ||
| And then the black people will just kill each other because they can't control themselves. | ||
| You know what that argument is very similar to? | ||
| Nazi shit. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| No, no, no, look. | ||
| We don't want to cleanse the racists anymore. | ||
| We just think that Europe should be for Europeans. | ||
| Africa for the Africans. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, so white people evacuate to Europe. | ||
| That's almost in reverse. | ||
| That's literal white nationalism. | ||
| That's literal white nationalism. | ||
| That's ethnostates. | ||
| That is nonsense. | ||
| Also, if you want to talk about rape issues in Africa, do you want to know the largest number of rape cases and what causes those rape cases? | ||
| Hey, everyone. | ||
| While Jordan explains this, I'm going to get another beer. | ||
| The significant issue with rape in Africa is it's not fucking racial or child-based. | ||
| It's religion. | ||
| It's Christianity. | ||
| It's a Christianity that was spread by... | ||
| You guessed it! | ||
| Americans going over there! | ||
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Because... | |
| Okay, I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm sorry, Dan. | ||
| This is something that really fucking pisses me off. | ||
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I know. | |
| We've talked about it in the past. | ||
| Okay, I'm sorry. | ||
| No, no. | ||
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I'm sorry. | |
| It's a point that's worth bringing up. | ||
| It's because whenever that fucking brand of Christianity, that fucking... | ||
| And that narrative is whack. | ||
| The homophobic brand of Christianity was no longer as accepted, even though it's still very accepted here. | ||
| When it was no longer as accepted, those fuckers decided, nah, nah, nah, nah, you know what? | ||
| We're going to go to Africa and we're going to run that fucking place. | ||
| I know! | ||
| Fucking infuriating! | ||
| How dare you! | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| The chat room made a really good point. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I have neighbors. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm actually more sorry to the chat room than I am to you, Dan. | ||
| I did think that that was probably one of the things that was going to set you off the most. | ||
| I'm so fucking predictable. | ||
| Just the fucking idea that Alex wouldn't have the wherewithal, wouldn't have the awareness, the knowledge, the self-reflection to know what he was saying. | ||
| Like, I don't believe that. | ||
| I don't believe he would be so glib and loose-lipped as to say... | ||
| Why do white people just leave and the blacks kill each other? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, he knows what he's saying. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's not a stray comment. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| That's a big part of the Swedelanders' sort of ideology. | ||
| They know, or they know, they believe that at some point they're going to have to evacuate, especially the cities. | ||
| That's part of why they go around and raise tons of money, because they need to have enough fuel, and they need to have guns, and all that shit. | ||
| And so Alex is having this guy on, and he's not reading the articles or the statistics or anything about the underpinnings of the argument, but he knows who this guy is to some extent. | ||
| He has to. | ||
| Or at least he's gotten a call from Cernovich. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or one of these guys and been like, you've got to talk to this guy. | ||
| He's up on shit. | ||
| Tommy Robinson gave him a call or some shit. | ||
| As did Tommy Davidson. | ||
| The Swedelanders are big as a Poisson. | ||
| Every time you say Tommy Robinson, I think of that. | ||
| Okay, interesting thought experiment. | ||
| Also, to the chat room. | ||
| Roommates are okay. | ||
| The people who live upstairs from me, probably not great. | ||
| I'm sorry about that. | ||
| I think they have children. | ||
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I'm sorry. | |
| I thought that was the Airbnb assholes. | ||
| Not always. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It's only 9.23. | ||
| They can deal with some yelling. | ||
| It's not like it's a weeknight. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Good point. | ||
| I have to work tomorrow morning, too. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Thought experiment. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If you are a white nationalist, what if we just gave you a nation? | ||
| Because in all honesty, think about this very seriously. | ||
| You can have French Guiana. | ||
| Very seriously. | ||
| Or Guiana. | ||
| Where did Jim Jones go? | ||
| You can have that place. | ||
| It's cursed. | ||
| I mean, in reality, most white people aren't white nationalists. | ||
| True. | ||
| Most white people are at... | ||
| At the very least, some sort of latent racist. | ||
| There's no way to completely wash out my implicit bias. | ||
| There's constantly conceptions that you need to... | ||
| Yeah, you have to continue to re-evaluate yourself as you go through this. | ||
| So I experience certain forms of racism within me, and I go, oh, fuck me. | ||
| You know, like that kind of shit. | ||
| It's just from the way that you were raised in, the culture that you're raised in. | ||
| The people who are out-and-out white nationalists, if their argument is when we leave, we'll just let them kill each other, all honesty, if we let them leave... | ||
| Wouldn't those people just wind up killing each other? | ||
| They'd probably find a new version of separation. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Like blue eyes and green eyes or something like the hair color or something. | ||
| Those are the type of people who are going to get into a small group and then go, well, we're not racially pure enough. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's going to be some new division that needs to come up. | ||
| There always is a fight. | ||
| In the same way that Alex Jones won the presidency, quote-unquote, and still has to be the victim, the white nationalists will go and have their own country. | ||
| I'd still be like, gotta scapegoat that ginger over there. | ||
| When your entire ideology is based on purity, then there is always going to be an escalation of what purity is. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Because purity can never exist without the impure. | ||
| And that's always the issue there. | ||
| They're always going to try and continue to escalate their purity and find that perfect little diamond of white until everybody's dead but the one guy. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So if their argument is everybody else is going to kill each other once we leave, let's let them leave. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then when they kill each other, we'll be like, ha ha, I got you guys. | ||
| You're the ones who are dumb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, no matter what, we can just... | ||
| Put a pin in it with this is intense bigotry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Alex Jones, like, has no leg to stand on in terms of not harboring white nationalist opinions and beliefs. | ||
| Pretending that he doesn't know that his audience vibes with that. | ||
| Very white nationalist, yeah. | ||
| Or that the guests that he has on... | ||
| Very white nationalist. | ||
| So let's get the taste out of our mouth real quick. | ||
| Here's a commercial. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| God, you have curated these to bring me up and then down and then up again. | ||
| It's like a Chuck Mangione song. | ||
| You're playing me like a drum solo. | ||
| That's what you're doing right now. | ||
| So, this is from a commercial where he reads reviews of the products from the website. | ||
| Alright, now I'm having fun. | ||
| And this, I want to throw something every time I hear this. | ||
| It plays like three times per episode. | ||
| This little snippet is just like... | ||
| Fuck you, Alec. | ||
| Go fuck yourself. | ||
| Continuing with Silver Bullet, the highest quality 30 parts per million colloidal silver out there. | ||
| Dale should be called Magic Bullet. | ||
| Oh, my gosh. | ||
| The listeners are so much smarter than me, and I'm not being patronizing. | ||
| That's what a silver bullet's supposed to be, though, kind of. | ||
| Our listeners are so smarter than me. | ||
| I'm not being patronizing. | ||
| Every time he does that, I'm not trying to brag. | ||
| I'm not being patronizing. | ||
| I'm not being patronizing. | ||
| But that's kind of what a silver bullet is. | ||
| That's exactly what you're doing. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| What a dick. | ||
| What a fucking asshole. | ||
| He's just being a dick to his own audience who write these reviews for him. | ||
| It's so weird how it seems as though he bumps in and out of self-awareness. | ||
| Like, he's the least self-aware. | ||
| That's out. | ||
| See, I feel like, though, he has to, on some level, know that he's trolling when he says that. | ||
| Because he's doing the, I'm not trying to brag. | ||
| I think he's rushing. | ||
| Because this is one take Jones. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He doesn't have time to record this. | ||
| This is L. Ron Hubbard. | ||
| First draft, last draft, get it out the door, baby. | ||
| Undoubtedly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, for sure. | ||
| So now let's get back to this South African Swedelander. | ||
| Great. | ||
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So... | |
| Jordan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You might think... | ||
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What might I think, Dan? | |
| This is so... | ||
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This is so hard for me because I know what's coming. | |
| This is very hard for me. | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| You've built this up so much, I almost have to not get angry in response to that. | ||
| No, this won't make you mad. | ||
| This is just going to baffle me? | ||
| The fever has broken in terms of this part. | ||
| There's something else that will make you mad later. | ||
| But in terms of the South African stuff, I think we're in the clear. | ||
| Does he ever say Swedelander? | ||
| He does, and it's not pronounced like that. | ||
| It's like Sufflander or something like that. | ||
| It's S-U-I-D. | ||
| I just don't know how to pronounce it. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I don't care to respect them either, quite frankly. | ||
| Fuck them. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| So you might think that their beliefs are based on, I don't know, misinterpreted history? | ||
| You might think that they're based on pure racial hatred? | ||
| No. | ||
| You might think that they're based on any number of things. | ||
| I kind of think they're based on Denny's placemats. | ||
| You could never guess what they're based on. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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You know, we hold to a series of prophecies that said this crisis, the prophecies given 100 years ago, will occur at a time when a man with a place, that is to say, hair resembling a wig, will be in power in the United States. | |
| And he will take over the reins of power. | ||
| From a black man. | ||
| And there are various other things. | ||
| I won't go on and on and on about it. | ||
| But the point is that we are devoted to an ancient culture. | ||
| Well, that's intriguing, though, because I want to hear about this prophecy. | ||
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Ha ha ha ha ha! | |
| Ha ha ha! | ||
| Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. | ||
| A man with a wig. | ||
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What? | |
| Alex Jones has a guy on his show who's motivated to make a militia. | ||
| To be fair, Simon Roche is not in charge of the group. | ||
| He's not in charge of the group, but... | ||
| Who wrote that prophecy, and why doesn't he have all of our money? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That is the most... | ||
| Specific prophecy I have ever heard in my entire life. | ||
| This guy's name is Nikolas Peter Johannes Jeans de Rendsburg, also known as Siener von Rendsburg, which is the seer of Rendsburg. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And I've done a bunch of, I've done a bit of research into him. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let me give you the... | ||
| I, I, Dan, do not ruin this for me. | ||
| That man is unequivocally a genius. | ||
| If he wrote that prophecy... | ||
| That is the most brilliant thing anyone has ever done. | ||
| I believe in clairvoyance right now, Dan. | ||
| I found a book of his prophecies. | ||
| Are you still... | ||
| When did he live? | ||
| A hundred years ago? | ||
| Yeah, he died in 1926. | ||
| And he's still writing books of... | ||
| They were still writing books of prophecies back then? | ||
| Someone collected something or other. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
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I'm in. | |
| I believe in this. | ||
| I can't find that prophecy. | ||
| I will tell you that. | ||
| This one might be Simon Riffing. | ||
| This one I cannot find. | ||
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When a man with the hair looks like a wig takes over for a black man. | |
| I will give you one. | ||
| Here's one of his 1916. | ||
| August 1916. | ||
| Here's one of his prophecies. | ||
| I see a terrified woman in black. | ||
| And the interpretation of that is the death and destruction of communism coming to the West. | ||
| So it's that level of prophecy. | ||
| That's reading into it real hard. | ||
| It's that much of a stretch. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, if he got the dude with the wig taking over for a black man... | ||
| Again, I can't find that. | ||
| Dan, let me believe. | ||
| I don't believe in ghosts. | ||
| I don't believe in God. | ||
| I want to believe in this almost certainly racist pile of garbage. | ||
| Well, here's the deal. | ||
| He was a South African guy. | ||
| He's an Africaner, yeah. | ||
| And he was involved in, you know, he was involved in the Boer War. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| I'm sure he was on the right side of that. | ||
| I'm not sure if he was. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| But he was sort of not, he was not a good soldier, and he had these visions, and so he got sent home, and then he came back to try and warn people, and he gained sort of a reputation for being right. | ||
| He had some hunches about military stuff, and he ended up being right about some stuff. | ||
| Which is what you could do with any amount of basic research. | ||
| You could. | ||
| Especially in the Boer War. | ||
| You could, certainly. | ||
| That was one of the dumber wars in history. | ||
| Nobody did a good job in that war. | ||
| I don't want to get too into his whole history, because there's not a ton of information that I could find. | ||
| It's all cockamamie bullshit. | ||
| It's all just like... | ||
| It's hearsay from the people who want to support him. | ||
| But like... | ||
| We know... | ||
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Again, the wig replacing a black man. | |
| When a white man with hair like a wig takes over for a black man. | ||
| I cannot find that prophecy. | ||
| Also, my Afrikaner accent, dead on. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Here's the thing that is interesting throughout... | ||
| Most of his prophecies. | ||
| Just real quick, the way to an Afrikaner accent, just say, Blake. | ||
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Blake. | |
| That's all you have to do? | ||
| You've got it. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Nailed it. | ||
| Did your girlfriend teach you that? | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I got in a year. | ||
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| You're like an Alex Jones of impressions. | ||
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So... | |
| This guy was an Afrikaner. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He died in 1926. | ||
| Good. | ||
| He was making predictions up to his death. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| One of the pretty consistent threads throughout a lot of his prophecies were about the rise of Germany. | ||
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| Well, I mean, if he made them before 1930... | ||
| In a positive light. | ||
| As a good thing? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Not just like a... | ||
| Hey, these white dudes are going to fucking rise. | ||
| No. | ||
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No, no. | |
| It's like a very positive thing. | ||
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| Did he get the dates right? | ||
| No. | ||
| He didn't have any dates. | ||
| That's the problem with prophecy. | ||
| This is why I don't believe in it. | ||
| The interpretation that's given of a lot of it is that the U.S. and Germany will have to be on the same side in World War III. | ||
| That's a way of getting around the idea that it had anything to do with World War II. | ||
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Ah. | |
| But you saw there at the end. | ||
| I mean, and again, if you do some basic research, you could have expected that the U.S. would have joined Germany in World War II. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It is kind of surprising if you look at the United States' history to see us... | ||
| On the right side of history. | ||
| So this guy named Gustav Mueller, he was a guy who was in the service in South Africa, as it were, back in the day. | ||
| He's still alive now. | ||
| He's the one who started the Sweetlanders, based on a lot of the prophecies of this Sinar de Rendsburg. | ||
| Say that one more time. | ||
| He started this extremist religious group called... | ||
| How do you pronounce D-I-E in German? | ||
| Die? | ||
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Die? | |
| Die. | ||
| Die Swedelanders. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He started that as a paramilitary, non-connected to a state action group in order to protect white people in South Africa. | ||
| Based on... | ||
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Prophecies. | |
| From this guy. | ||
| Based on prophecies. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And now, their representative, who has spent a lot of time contacting alt-right figures in the United States for fundraising purposes, is a guest on Alex Jones' show. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| So now, Gustav Mueller. | ||
| You know, there's a certain part of me that's always jealous. | ||
| Like, imagine being the type of person... | ||
| Who would join a group because it's based off prophecy. | ||
| See, now this is where my sort of dysfunction comes into play. | ||
| I thought you were jealous of me getting to discover these things. | ||
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Because it's kind of fun. | |
| Not at all. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
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It's kind of fun. | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Again, I want to live in a world where this is not anywhere near me. | ||
| I want to talk to you about Gustav Mueller. | ||
| See, that's a sentence I would never want to say. | ||
| I found an article from a South African newspaper. | ||
| That's like being like, let me tell you something about the Unabomber. | ||
| He had some good ideas. | ||
| So, Gustav Mueller, in January of 2008, he was in court. | ||
| I will read this. | ||
| Mueller was arrested on December 13, 2007, at a caravan park in Mosul Bay. | ||
| He had been on the run from police for being in possession of an illegal submachine gun. | ||
| His two co-accused, Hank Duparis and Swien Berger, are currently held on respective bails. | ||
| Mueller has been remanded in custody until January 21st for a formal bail application. | ||
| The Swedelanders shot to public notice last year as the organization behind the Nelson Mandela hoax emails feverishly circulated on the internet. | ||
| Do you know what he's talking about? | ||
| This article's talking about? | ||
| No. | ||
| There were a bunch of emails that were a hoax that went around purporting to be from Nelson Mandela's widow. | ||
| And she had a large inheritance that she needed to get out of the country. | ||
| It was the Nigerian scam. | ||
| The Swedelanders did that, but just with Nelson Mandela. | ||
| Really? | ||
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Really? | |
| Okay. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Dan, why are... | ||
| Why are idiots so much better at fundraising than we are? | ||
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What's fascinating is Alex talks about how he's had friends who got tricked by the Nigerian emails, and now he has a guy who's part of an organization that did the same thing to me! | |
| Yeah, but they were tricked by black people. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| If you're tricked by white people, you can defend that. | ||
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This is so insane. | |
| Like, I don't understand. | ||
| I just don't get it. | ||
| This is... | ||
| There's so many problems with this guest, and white genocide fears are... | ||
| Maybe the least of them. | ||
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I mean, they're the most important. | |
| They're the most evil. | ||
| At least. | ||
| And they're only real. | ||
| They're the least... | ||
| That's the least... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what to tell you. | ||
| Somehow, I was about to say that's the least dumb one. | ||
| As if being afraid of white genocide is the least dumb of those things. | ||
| It's far more reasonable to be... | ||
| Jordan said reasonable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's far more... | ||
| Yeah, and the chat room is about to agree with me. | ||
| It's far more reasonable to follow somebody based on prophecy than it is to believe that white genocide is going to happen. | ||
| But when the two come together... | ||
| Oh, it's chocolate and peanut butter, baby. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| You heard at the end of that clip, the last one, it's been a little while now, but you heard at the end of that last clip, Alex being like, oh, I'm excited, I want to hear about this prophecy. | ||
| And so he tells him more about the prophecy, and again, I can't find that prophecy with the wig. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| In this again, I agree with Alex. | ||
| I am excited to hear more about this prophecy. | ||
| Well, Alex takes a turn in this next clip. | ||
| That is such a specific prophecy! | ||
| And for it to come true, even better. | ||
| I don't think it's real. | ||
| Delightful. | ||
| I don't think it's real. | ||
| Of course it's not real! | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| And further, when he elaborates on it, he just repeats it. | ||
| There's nothing new in it. | ||
| But Alex's interest in this prophecy is a little bit self-serving. | ||
| I'll tell you, the reason I listen to stuff like this, there's a lot of false promises the Bible say who go out and put out this info, but people like this where it's been proven right over and over again, it's incredible. | ||
| And I personally haven't had, like, full-on deals like this, but I've had experiences, dreams, and things that came true exactly later, so that's why I know how real this stuff is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So, Alex... | ||
| I mean, we've talked about this before. | ||
| He thinks he has prophetic dreams. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| He's nuts. | ||
| The idea that he goes on his radio show and is like, oh, that's a great prophecy. | ||
| Let me tell you about some of mine is fantastic. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| To be fair, he didn't get specific about his weird dreams. | ||
| Of fucking course not. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| But man, oh man. | ||
| So we've now reached the end of the Swedelander portion of the show. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| Alex has one more guest on the show. | ||
| And it's generally someone we don't like to talk about. | ||
| PJ Dubs? | ||
| No, Stefan Molyneux. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Stefan Molyneux, as we know, he's the host of Free Domain Radio, which is essentially a cult, and there are support groups of people who have had to break free of it. | ||
| As we've discussed, he encourages people to break ties with people who are abusive, subversive people, as Scientologists might say. | ||
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Suppressive people. | |
| Suppressive, yes. | ||
| The defooing, as it were. | ||
| He also, as we've played in the past, that clip where he says that women were to blame for Elliot Rodgers' attack, his shooting spree, because they didn't fuck him. | ||
| He's that sort of... | ||
| He is the worst. | ||
| Hey, you want to know when my extended family knew I was born? | ||
| Stefan Molyneux told them? | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, well after I was born. | ||
| Because they cut off all contact with my extended family. | ||
| When my family was in the cult. | ||
| D-Food. | ||
| Nobody knew. | ||
| You got D-Food, baby. | ||
| Nobody in my family knew that I was even there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, yeah. | ||
| This is going to hit home yet again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, he has Stefan Molyneux on to talk about a load of bullshit. | ||
| And I don't want to get into it. | ||
| I just, I mean, we're already, you know, coming in at about an hour 40 in the show. | ||
| Usually our live shows are shorter than our long-form podcasts. | ||
| We don't have specific time to get into all the stuff. | ||
| And because Stefan Mollinger just talks a fucking mile a minute. | ||
| He's a piece of garbage. | ||
| But here, he says something that I think is really scary, and I kind of agree with, but if you understand the kind of code he's using, I agree with him. | ||
| They have missed the opportunity to crush us. | ||
| You know, you've been doing this longer than I have. | ||
| I've been doing it for about 11 years in a public sphere, many years before that in a private sphere. | ||
| Back in the day, they tried to smash me down. | ||
| Back in the day, and continually, they try to smash you down. | ||
| But it's too late. | ||
| We have become too big. | ||
| There are too many interconnected people. | ||
| There are too many networks. | ||
| There are too many freedom lovers who are supporting each other. | ||
| Now, if they try and smash people down, all they do is raise the profile. | ||
| In other words, what I'm saying is, the Liberty virus, my friends, has gone airborne. | ||
| It can no longer be contained. | ||
| And that means that it's a wonderful opportunity for everyone out there. | ||
| Please do not view the liberation of Western civilization as a spectator sport. | ||
| Do not sit there passively in your chair, thumbing your remote, and hoping that other people are going to save the world for you. | ||
| We have passed the tipping point, the Overton window. | ||
| Has gone so far now that what was impossible before has become commonplace now. | ||
| What was radical before has become commonplace now. | ||
| So when you take it in context and what he's talking about with the Overton window moving that far and what's radical, I mean, he's just talking about... | ||
| White nationalism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I disagree with that. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I mean, like, the idea that white nationalism is new, or that this is in any way... | ||
| No, no, no, it's newly acceptable. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| No, no, no, I think to the extent it is now... | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| I don't think that years ago you could have a network full of mainstreamed people. | ||
| I think one of the big issues that people are discovering is that one of the problems with white nationalism... | ||
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Is that for so long, it was assumed. | |
| It wasn't something that was publicized or talked about because everybody just assumed you were a white nationalist. | ||
| Because it was such a normal thing to be. | ||
| Like, again, go back to... | ||
| I think there's a thin line between white nationalism and white supremacy. | ||
| I mean, I disagree. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| I think there's a geographical aspect. | ||
| Okay, give me a decade in American history. | ||
| Give me a decade. | ||
| 1850s. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| White nationalism reigns supreme. | ||
| Scientific controllers. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| I mean, like, what do you think is the most recent decade where white nationalism wasn't mainstream? | ||
| I don't disagree to some extent with what you're saying, but I disagree in the sense that these ideas were okay to make money off of and speak out on platforms that reached millions of people. | ||
| Okay, I mean, maybe the millions of people... | ||
| I'm talking about the media less than the message. | ||
| I mean, when? | ||
| Stefan Molyneux and Alex Jones would not be allowed on television in the past. | ||
| Or in the present. | ||
| Because of public decency standards. | ||
| That's why they've created their own places, their own weird corners of the internet where white supremacists and white nationalists gather and have built up their fan bases to the extent they have. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I think historically... | ||
| Okay, fair enough. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know if Walter Cronkite was a secret white nationalist. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| Okay, that's a good point. | ||
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But to me... | |
| One of the big problems that I have with the way that we are or maybe the way that the media is covering it now is the idea that this is some kind of explosive new issue. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And I would say that this is the exact same percentage of the population that has always been white nationalist. | ||
| In fact, I would say this is a lower percentage of the population that is white nationalist than it was. | ||
| 20 years ago. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| It's just so much louder and the signal is so much more amplified because of the internet. | ||
| Not because of a greater number of the population. | ||
| Experiencing or having these feelings or leanings. | ||
| Let's put a pin in that for a second, because that's possible. | ||
| What I would like to more respond to, and when I said that I kind of agree with what he's saying, if you just speak in code... | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| I understand why you said that. | ||
| What really got to me in that rant is the freedom virus has gone airborne. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The white nationalist virus has gone airborne. | ||
| Well, no, because I always conceive of this globalist idea as kind of a brain virus. | ||
| The idea of the globalist, which is just anti-Semitism, is a brain virus that gets into you and you start to interpret the entire world through this prism. | ||
| And that's why you can think that the British were in charge of the entire world colonially in 1850 when that's not the reality at all. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You pretend like, oh, it's secretly they were. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| Any number of examples through Alex Jones. | ||
| pretend, oh, the globalists were doing that. | ||
| Charles Manson, earlier in the episode, you can just create an entire new narrative for him based on what the globalists were secretly doing. | ||
| And to that extent, I believe Stefan Molyneux is correct. | ||
| His version of freedom lover is one who believes in archaic anti-Semitic beliefs couched in an idea of the globalists. | ||
| Because Stefan Molyneux is on that tip, too. | ||
| Or at least he isn't, as much as when he's on Alex's show he is. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And when he's not. | ||
| He's an anarcho-capitalist who's a fucking mess. | ||
| And again, as we have gone through over and over again, regardless of whether or not that is something that is central or specific to your otherwise point of view, if you go on Alex's show, you just agree with him and say the shit that he wants to hear in order to get your perspective a higher, you know. | ||
| A higher view count. | ||
| I'm not giving him any credit, because I also hate him, but I believe Anthony Cumia has said stuff to that extent. | ||
| He doesn't really buy into a lot of the bullshit. | ||
| He's a bigot, and he wants to get his voice out there. | ||
| But to my point again, you know, apartheid ended... | ||
| 94? | ||
| Yeah, not long ago. | ||
| And when apartheid ended, there was a huge population in the United States who was like... | ||
| That is wrong. | ||
| There was a huge population in the United States that supported apartheid and thought, again, that it was the only way to contain and control black people's inherent urges, as if that was a thing. | ||
| That's even implicit in Alex's own... | ||
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Exactly. | |
| They're just going to kill each other. | ||
| So to me, I think what's really new is the idea that there are so many people who are shocked by it. | ||
| To me, that's what I find to be a new development. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| And that's part of the rewriting of the American legend, is the idea that every time we go back through our history, we rewrite how it is that we thought most people felt. | ||
| So many people in the United States now imagine themselves, were they in the 60s, they would have supported Martin Luther King Jr. | ||
| And you have to go back and remember that the polls on that... | ||
| We're far less than 30%. | ||
| So, to me, the newest idea is that people are on the side of, you're wrong. | ||
| It's just that their voices are so loud because of the internet. | ||
| Maybe that's the inevitable response to the mainstreaming of these voices. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Because you have more people who are shocked and they realize, like, this has been here all along. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's like tearing open your wall and finding out there's mold in there or something like that. | ||
| There's so many bugs escaping when you pull that rock up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that's what we're really doing, and that's why this... | ||
| Like, there's an argument to be made that I don't necessarily agree with, but it is that when these people do come out, because their signal is so loud, so many people do examine themselves and go, that is wrong. | ||
| So if you are going to say, you know, is it a... | ||
| I'm not going to argue that it's a good thing that their voices are so loud right now, but it is something that has made a lot of people who otherwise would have assumed their racism as being okay actually examine that their racism is not okay, because they see these fucking assholes doing it. | ||
| There's an argument to be made there. | ||
| But also, I think the other thing that I think Stefan Molyneux is correct about is the idea that there's too many interconnected networks now. | ||
| Of these people who are self-reinforcing and reinforcing each other. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| If someone were to attack Stefan Molyneux, Alex would defend him, and Cernovich would defend him, and Jack Posobiec would defend him, Rebel Media, if they still even exist, or Gavin McGinnis, Laura Loomer, all of these people would come with their social media followings and try and make it the biggest story in the world. | ||
| In a way that if they weren't a team altogether, It wouldn't work. | ||
| To continue my metaphor, in this regard, when you pull up that rock, all the bugs don't scatter. | ||
| They're all connected and they're ready to fight you. | ||
| It's a rat king. | ||
| It's a rat king. | ||
| That's what we have discovered. | ||
| We have discovered a nest of rats who are fucking unified, which is terrifying. | ||
| It's not great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Stefan Molyneux can fuck himself. | ||
| But also, there's one last clip that I pulled from him, and it's fun. | ||
| Because he's stupid. | ||
| And he's trying to sound smart. | ||
| And it'll be fun to make fun of him because he's so stupid. | ||
| So the most important thing, I think, in this area, Alex, is something called the Pareto Principle, which everyone needs to become familiar with. | ||
| And the Pareto Principle goes something like this. | ||
| The square root of the number of people produces half the value of that group. | ||
| So if you've got nine people, three people are producing half the value, right? | ||
| If you have 100 people, 10 people. | ||
| If you have 10,000 people in a company, 100 people. | ||
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I want to stop already. | |
| The Pareto principle is based on the idea of the 80-20 rule, where 80% of your output comes from 20% of your input. | ||
| It was a guy in Italy... | ||
| Who was stumbling around and realized that 80% of the land was owned by 20% of the people. | ||
| And that's how he came up with this observation. | ||
| And people have universalized it in a very bad way. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So it's not even about square roots. | ||
| If you apply science, you go, well, that's fucking dumb. | ||
| Well, but even his numbers are wrong. | ||
| And he's telling everyone to get familiar with it. | ||
| You should get familiar with them all. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where smart people start to leave for whatever reason. | ||
| Then the smartest people leave, it means that the company productivity goes down enormously. | ||
| If you get the top 100 people leaving, okay, you still have 9,900 workers in a 10,000-worker company, but half your productivity is gone. | ||
| This is why people become rich and other people are middle class, other people are poor. | ||
| There's a bell curve of productivity. | ||
| Think of the third world. | ||
| Western civilization rests on the brains, hearts, minds, and muscle of maybe 2,000 people. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| maybe 2,000 people who innovated, who reasoned, who took risks, who scientifically, philosophically, economically moved us all forward. | ||
| In the third world, there are a small number of people White. | ||
| world and make it into a better place. | ||
| Now, if the West comes along with the giant immigration suction machine, Whovers those people up from the third world, then if the top 1% of smart people from the third world end up in the first world, what happens? | ||
| The third world becomes catastrophically worse. | ||
| And that means the next tier of people are desperate to get out and make it to the first world. | ||
| And then there's a milk down. | ||
| And then the third tier of people, and we end up with a complete disaster and everyone migrating to Europe. | ||
| The destruction of the welfare state, the undermining of Western civilization, all because the West could not resist the temptation of having instant taxpayers hoovered in from the third world and gave up. | ||
| Absolutely beautifully said on Alex's response there. | ||
| I mean, and it's fitting that he ends it with ideas about white breeding. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Because it's what it comes down to. | ||
| But, I mean, you nailed it. | ||
| The point I wanted to make is this is just washed-over Ayn Rand bullshit. | ||
| And he's even best representing the Pareto principle in order to apply it to this weird Ayn Randian vision of... | ||
| And let's really be fucking clear about this. | ||
| This idea that these hundred people at this company are responsible for half of the productivity is a cockamamie nonsense idea. | ||
| That idea, if you want to apply it on a macro scale to civilization, that only these 2,000 people are really responsible for the productivity, no, it's not. | ||
| They are the ones who are running the system wherein everyone is working super hard for nothing. | ||
| You get rid of those fucking people. | ||
| Do you want to go through what really happens? | ||
| What really happens is you find out that those fucking CEOs and those fucking idiots... | ||
| They are worthless. | ||
| This is what happens when you see... | ||
| The easiest examples for that are the NBA strikes. | ||
| The owners imagine that it's because they control the league. | ||
| If the players actually have a strong union, all of a sudden you find out... | ||
| Oh, we don't actually need those fuckers at all. | ||
| No. | ||
| We're the ones who provide revenue, and they fucking suck blood off of it. | ||
| If you want to go by blood libel bullshit. | ||
| In that example, 80% is creating 80% of the productivity in the basketball team. | ||
| I would argue that... | ||
| 80% is creating 100% of the value. | ||
| No, not really, because there are all the people who are maintaining the court and running concessions. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| There's a great deal of other people who are just forgotten in his stupid fucking calculus. | ||
| But I'm lumping them in with the players. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like, that's the biggest issue. | ||
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They wouldn't be in that union, though. | |
| They'd be a different union. | ||
| They should be in that union. | ||
| Different union. | ||
| Like, the entire... | ||
| Concessionist union. | ||
| But that gets me back again to a... | ||
| I feel like we should have a universal union at this point. | ||
| I don't give a fuck about governments. | ||
| Like, just a workers' union? | ||
| I think we generally need a workers' union. | ||
| It's called socialism. | ||
| Imagine if we could collectively... | ||
| That's kind of what that is. | ||
| Imagine if we could collectively bargain with the rich. | ||
| Like, that's ostensibly what a democracy is supposed to be. | ||
| It's supposed to be a large group of people collectively bargaining with the rich. | ||
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Well, that's one of the nice things. | |
| With what you would call the ruling class. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, that's one of the nice things that we're starting to see out of the world today is some sort of... | ||
| You know, connection between unions and them supporting each other, much in the same way that Stefan Molyneux and Alex Jones support each other. | ||
| Well, the problem is we're not seeing that. | ||
| Union membership continues to fall. | ||
| No, but that's true. | ||
| But at the same time, there are connections being made between various unions supporting each other. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The most recent things that I read about the AFL-CIO, which is supposed to be that... | ||
| Is that everyone is confused as to why union membership is dropping, even as they don't realize that they're not doing any outreach. | ||
| Oh, and bullying from the rich. | ||
| And the big issue within those unions often comes down to job-specific unions. | ||
| Like, pipefitters unions should strike if, you know... | ||
| Masons. | ||
| I mean, like, bricklayers. | ||
| Yeah, no, I know. | ||
| Or the largest unions are car manufacturing unions. | ||
| Like, if the car manufacturer's union strikes, pipefitters should strike. | ||
| And all of a sudden, you start to see a lot of things change. | ||
| Like, one of the biggest issues is that as unions fall, wages fall. | ||
| And nobody fucking talks about that, which is the only thing people should fucking talk about with labor. | ||
| Because the talking point is so much easier that you have to pay dues and all that stuff, which is so much more of an immediate concern that people have that it makes it feel like I will make less money not looking at the long game. | ||
| It's a penny-wise pound-foolish. | ||
| Every right-to-work law has led to lower wages, not just in the unions, but in the entire state. | ||
| If teachers make more money, You will wind up making more money. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That is always the case. | ||
| It's a trickle around effect. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| When you go, top down is ineffective. | ||
| When you go bottom up, all of a sudden, people start to, wealth is no longer concentrated at the top. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So, that brings us to the end of this episode. | ||
| Stefan Molyneux sucks. | ||
| I really think that there is a really interesting narrative that ran through this episode accidentally. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And that's one of the reasons why I really needed to do the episode, even though, spoiler alert for those listening listeners, We're three days in a row. | |
| Yeah, we're on a real run here. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But the reason I needed to do it was the idea that he started with this weird apologizing for Charles Manson kind of narrative when... | ||
| The reality is that he was someone who maybe wasn't entirely motivated by racism, but had a bunch of it in him, and was a fucking crazy cult leader. | ||
| That was his game. | ||
| And then later he has this fucking South African guy who's afraid of white genocide. | ||
| There's such a weird mirror there. | ||
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When a white man with hair that looks like a wig takes over for a black president. | |
| Fantastic. | ||
| Those two things, like an A and B, are insane to exist on the same show. | ||
| I don't understand why this show exists. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's baffling. | ||
| Our show and his show, quite frankly. | ||
| We have been doing this for a year, and I still don't know how this exists, period. | ||
| Yeah, and how anyone listens. | ||
| I mean, I know that a lot of the audience is bots, as we've discovered on our last episode. | ||
| At least half of the audience, considering the way that he described it. | ||
| I mean, who knows where the growth came after that? | ||
| It's possible that he had organic growth that spawned out of that. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| But at least, like, eight or nine million are fake. | ||
| But anyway, because this has been such a rough... | ||
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I feel like we did an alright job of making it fun. | |
| You screamed through a bit of it. | ||
| I didn't scream through all of it. | ||
| Not all of it. | ||
| It was less than I expected. | ||
| You promised that later on in the episode I would get angry, and I did not. | ||
| Yes, you did. | ||
| Okay, I got pretty angry, but not all the way. | ||
| With the white people should escape? | ||
| All right. | ||
| You screamed for half a minute. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Two minutes. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But anyway, to make everyone feel better, I'd like to just end with this. | ||
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I love this song. | |
| Four stars. | ||
| Go home and call your mother. | ||
| Oh, I love that song, too. | ||
| All right, Alec. | ||
| White nationalist fuck. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| So anyway, if you'd like to check us out, we have a website. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yeah, we have more regular content. | ||
| We're updating it every day now. | ||
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On Facebook. | |
| Yeah, we are on Twitter if you'd like to follow us. | ||
| It's at knowledge. | ||
| Underscore. | ||
| And then there's a fight after that. | ||
| You can go to iTunes. | ||
| You can subscribe. | ||
| Yep, that's true. | ||
| You can leave a review because apparently algorithms matter. | ||
| Sure, I've heard of those. | ||
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And then... | |
| Beyond that, if you want to become a policy wonk and support the show... | ||
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Oh, that's right. | |
| We forgot to do that up top. | ||
| We have a new policy wonk, but since we didn't do it up top, we've got to do it next episode. | ||
| I feel bad about that. | ||
| Okay, I'm sorry. | ||
| No, I forgot. | ||
| Well, then I am not sorry. | ||
| If you would like to be not forgotten next episode, go to our website, knowledgefight.com. | ||
| You can click the support the show button. | ||
| That's a bad sell. | ||
| It's not great. | ||
| That's a bad sell. | ||
| It's as good as I can do right now. | ||
| But beyond that, so, I mean, we've run the gamut between Ayn Rand mutators. | ||
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Right. | |
| Cult leaders from the 60s. | ||
| Union talk. | ||
| I'm just talking about the specific people. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| African. | ||
| Quick question. | ||
| White nationalist South Africans. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Cult leader from the 60s. | ||
| Also not good. | ||
| Cult leader from the 1920s. | ||
| Cult leader from now. | ||
| Stefan Molyneux. | ||
| Cult leader from now, Alex Jones. | ||
| It's a bad group of people that we're talking about today. | ||
| Yeah, today was rough. | ||
| Quick question. | ||
| Within our podcast dynamic, who is labor and who is management? | ||
| Should I unionize against you? | ||
| Am I not being paid enough? | ||
| I'm management, but I'm cool management. | ||
| I would not like... | ||
| I think the issue is that neither of us are being paid enough. | ||
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That's true. | |
| I would like for you and Drafke to unionize. | ||
| And Cthulhu. | ||
| The three of you get together. | ||
| And Selene. | ||
| This motherfucker, we're gonna come together. | ||
| We're gonna go on strike. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Look. | ||
| This is tough. | ||
| Look, every episode you've done by yourself, Cthulhu's been here. | ||
| Imagine if there was no Cthulhu. | ||
| Imagine if it was just one camera of you talking. | ||
| I'd put something else weird there. | ||
| I don't know what it would be, but I'd put something there. | ||
| We're going to all put together. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Your entire room, even the food that should meet to get to, we're going to unionize. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| This is going to be tough for me. | ||
| It's going to be rough. | ||
| I have to pay insurance. | ||
| You guys better donate. | ||
| That's our new pitch? | ||
| Jordan is unionizing with Cthulhu. | ||
| You better donate. | ||
| Better pitch than we've had before. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| You know who won't unionize, Dan? | ||
| That was what I was trying to get to. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I was trying to lead you into it. | ||
| Do you want to take the reins on this one? | ||
| I thought you were going to because you asked me a question. | ||
| I know, but I was just saying, you know, like I was leading you into it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| There is a guy. | ||
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Yes. | |
| There's a guy. | ||
| There's a guy. | ||
| Notorious union buster. | ||
| There's a man. | ||
| He got into so many union busting scraps, he lost all his teeth. | ||
| Oh no! | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| He'd be out there. | ||
| He's a scab! | ||
| And he'd get his ass kicked just getting beat up. | ||
| That motherfucker. | ||
| Just getting beat up on every picket line. | ||
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I hate scabs. | |
| And that's how he lost all his teeth. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And now... | ||
| He unfortunately also, in one of those beatings that he took outside one of these picket lines, he lost the ability to raise his arms further than this high. | ||
| Is it John McCain? | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| But he can only do this high. | ||
| And that means that if you wanted to hang a picture, he just couldn't get it up there. | ||
| And that is why, although I have sympathy for... | ||
| Your physical ailments that have come from your union-busting activity, I still must say, go fuck yourself, John Rappaport. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. |