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Oct. 23, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
01:26:15
#95: Project Camelot Break

Today, Dan is hungover and doesn't want to talk about Alex Jones, so he takes the opportunity to tell Jordan all about what happened on a recent installment of Kerry Cassidy's Project Camelot. The lead singer of Blink-182 has been hanging out, talking about aliens with a guy named "Jim Semivan," and Kerry has some serious thoughts about it.

Participants
Main voices
d
dan friesen
42:30
j
jordan holmes
25:08
k
kerry cassidy
15:20
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alex jones
00:03
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
dan friesen
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
It's kind of what we do.
dan friesen
That's our thing.
That's our steez.
unidentified
Is there, what would you call it?
jordan holmes
A hook?
Would you call it a hook?
dan friesen
A loop-de-loop?
jordan holmes
I think so.
dan friesen
Make things exciting for the listeners?
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
We're off to a great start with this bit, by the way.
dan friesen
We're crushing it.
I know a lot about Alex Jones, and you don't.
jordan holmes
I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
And today's added twist is that I'm...
Pretty hungover.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I'm in rough shape.
jordan holmes
Somehow, I mean, you're not that much older than I am, but I'm not hungover at all.
dan friesen
I've done so much damage to myself over the years.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
It's a complete disaster.
jordan holmes
I'm pristine.
dan friesen
I made a mistake.
We went out last night, you and I, and your lady friend, and we had some drinks and played Scrabble, and I kicked your guys' asses.
jordan holmes
You kicked my ass for sure.
dan friesen
And, you know, the celebrating spirit got into me.
And so after we split ways, I kept drinking some beers.
I hung out with my roommate throughout the night and watched dunk videos.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, videos of dudes dunking?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
You are not a sports fan by trade.
dan friesen
No, but I love a dunk.
jordan holmes
Everybody loves a good dunk.
dan friesen
I also was a huge basketball fan when I was younger.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
So it harkens back to a younger time when I loved John Starks, Dominique Wilkins.
jordan holmes
One of those guys is not a big dunker.
dan friesen
Starks dunked on Jordan.
jordan holmes
Starks did dunk on Jordan, not a big dunker, though.
dan friesen
Anybody who just dunked on Jordan is a big dunker in my book.
jordan holmes
That's a fair point.
dan friesen
So we watched a bunch of these dunk videos.
jordan holmes
It's so strange to hear you say that.
So I'm watching some dunk videos.
dan friesen
I am here to make a very serious report that has nothing to do with Alex Jones, but the world needs to know about.
So, the 1991 dunk contest.
jordan holmes
Alright, there we go.
Now it begins.
Now, was this the one when Jordan leapt from the free throw line?
dan friesen
No, I believe that was another year.
I can't remember which one that was.
jordan holmes
That would have been 89 or 90, right?
dan friesen
I think it was even earlier than that.
It might have been like 88. It's irrelevant.
jordan holmes
I need to get into this.
I know a lot about basketball.
dan friesen
I don't know anything about basketball.
1991 was the year that the finals in the dunk contest were Sean Kemp and Dee Brown.
jordan holmes
That is such a disappointing dunk contest final.
dan friesen
Right.
Dee Brown ends up winning by putting his hand in the corner of his elbow.
jordan holmes
He does the blind dunk.
dan friesen
Which is great.
It's fine.
jordan holmes
It's fantastic.
dan friesen
The rest of Dee Brown's work, subpar.
He didn't belong in those finals to begin with.
jordan holmes
Look, as much as I love a good Sean Kemp...
dan friesen
He's great.
jordan holmes
...jumping, not his forte.
dan friesen
The entirety of all the dunks from the 1991 dunk contest are available on YouTube.
You can go find them.
And I'm going to...
jordan holmes
At knowledgefight.com, you can click support the show, and we will give you all of the 91 dunk contest finals.
dan friesen
Dunk!
Here's what I have to say.
We're a show about conspiracies.
By and large.
jordan holmes
How is this going to land?
You're taking off, my friend.
I don't know how this is going to land.
dan friesen
Rex Chapman from the Charlotte Hornets was nasty on those dunks.
He was sick.
He pitched the ball to himself from behind the back, like over the shoulder, caught it, and dunked.
It was madness what Rex Chapman was doing out there.
Didn't make the finals.
jordan holmes
So you think this is an anti-Charlotte Hornets kind of situation?
dan friesen
I think the Charlotte Hornets were too young of a team at that time.
It was an expansion franchise.
jordan holmes
Right, absolutely.
dan friesen
I believe that Rex Chapman is a goofy-looking, crew-cutted white guy.
jordan holmes
Rex Chapman is a goofy fucking dude.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that they felt like...
Eh, Sean Kemp's gonna win this thing.
Let's bring Dee Brown in for novelty because he's tiny.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I think the fix was in because Rex Chapman was a menace on that.
jordan holmes
So let me just...
Throw this out there.
Are you pitching an anti-white narrative right now?
Is this what you're doing right now?
dan friesen
It might be.
jordan holmes
Now, as I've said before, I am a soft yes on white genocide now, so I fully support Rex Chapman being nowhere near a dunk contest.
dan friesen
Look, I don't know if race necessarily comes into it.
I'm not 100% making that argument, but I am saying...
I'm saying that there was something going on and it was not in Rex Chapman's favor.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And that doesn't make sense because if you look at those dunks on paper, those were finals dunks.
jordan holmes
Let me tell you something.
Stern?
Stern would never allow a white dude into the dunk contest finals.
dan friesen
Very well maybe.
jordan holmes
This is just a true fact.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You can't have Detlef Schrempf and Rex Chapman in the finals.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you something though.
Schrempf?
He could dunk.
dan friesen
Yeah, good.
jordan holmes
He would do two hands.
dan friesen
Undoubtedly.
jordan holmes
Every time.
dan friesen
So anyway, I needed to get that off my chest.
jordan holmes
Rex Chapman was sick in 91. The only and last time anyone has ever said that.
dan friesen
I was surprised.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely.
dan friesen
Because as the dunk contest started, it was like, alright, Kenny Smith is here.
I remember that, dude.
What's Rex Chapman doing here?
And then out of nowhere bust some crazy dunk.
I'm like, oh, I was sleeping on Rex Chapman.
This guy's great.
jordan holmes
Alright, fair.
That's like saying, like, Rex Chapman was a great dunker.
It's like saying Christian Leitner was integral to the Dream Team.
Like, that is...
No.
I know a lot about basketball, Dan.
dan friesen
I don't know anything about it.
jordan holmes
I know a lot.
dan friesen
So, anyway, let's move along.
I love basketball.
I bring this up because it was a delightful thing.
jordan holmes
Because that was back when they had Muggsy Bogues on the Charlotte Hornets, my friend.
dan friesen
And Grandma Ma.
jordan holmes
Yeah, ooh, there we go.
dan friesen
You add Rex Chapman to that threesome.
jordan holmes
That's your first super team, my friend.
That's your first one.
unidentified
It is.
And who knew that Rex Chapman was so amazing.
jordan holmes
See, now we need Alex Jones clips of him talking about basketball.
Or Rex Chapman.
If Rex Chapman ever goes on Carrie Cassidy's show, believe me, that's the most important thing we're going to ever do.
dan friesen
Well, speaking of which, I didn't want to talk about Alex Jones today.
jordan holmes
Oh no!
Are we doing it?
dan friesen
We've got a Project Camelot episode.
jordan holmes
Fuck yes!
dan friesen
To start off the week here on your Monday episode.
jordan holmes
Wonderful.
dan friesen
So, I'd like to give a shout-out to one of our listeners.
Julia sent me along a link to this episode of Project Camelot because I don't watch it all the time.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
And thank God she did because...
Holy shit.
There's a lot of nonsense going on in Project Camelot world right now.
But also, before we do that, it's important for me to say this, because we've referenced this.
That Carrie Cassidy is not a sweet old lady as we have sort of depicted her.
jordan holmes
Unfortunately.
dan friesen
She is actually, in fact, a bit of an anti-Semite.
jordan holmes
That's not the way I wanted that to go.
dan friesen
And this was brought to my attention by our listener Keegan, and I appreciate him dropping that along.
And here is a clip to back that up.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
unidentified
In fact, my harassers tend to be Zionists.
dan friesen
This is Robert David Steele as a guest.
jordan holmes
Glad we're cross-pollinating.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Rather than the intelligence community.
And I distinguish between anti-Zionism, which is everyone's responsibility, and anti-Semitism, which is absolutely despicable and under no circumstances should be tolerated by anyone.
We have 9 million loyal, decent American Jews in the United States of America, and every single one of them is a patriot and not part of the problem.
Okay.
kerry cassidy
Well, that's quite a blanket statement, but we'll let it pass for the moment because of your enthusiasm for the Jewish race, call it what you will.
Although some people say it's a religion, not a race.
unidentified
I've actually written something very interesting online about the Holocaust and Zionism and these myths, and I won't go into it now.
dan friesen
That's probably for the best.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So that's soft anti-Semitism, I would say.
jordan holmes
There's nothing defensible there, but it's not egregious.
It's not horrific just yet.
dan friesen
It's soft, but it's there.
jordan holmes
It's absolutely there.
You are not wrong.
Just the way she wanted to push back against...
There are 9 million loyal Jews in America.
And she was like, eh.
And that's not a good response to that.
dan friesen
Exactly.
You should just be like, great.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Or even like, no, I think it's more like 8.5 million.
The census, you know, a lot of people are losing religion these days.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
All because of REM.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
That's me in the corner.
dan friesen
Robert David Steele.
says that he has written something interesting about Jews and the Holocaust.
jordan holmes
I don't want to hear it.
dan friesen
He doesn't want to get into it on Carrie Cassidy's show.
I will.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
So I read it.
It's Robert David Steele, the Holocaust, Zionism, and AIPAC, guilt by association.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
Wait.
Wait.
Are you saying that Zionism and AIPAC, in his eyes...
Are guilty of the Holocaust.
dan friesen
I have received both praise and pushback for how I answered a question about the Holocaust.
He was on another show.
He's referencing here.
He was asked about the Holocaust, and he responded, It's complicated.
jordan holmes
That's not a response.
dan friesen
Not great.
jordan holmes
It's not a response.
dan friesen
I have received both praise and pushback for how I answered.
The time has come to demystify the Holocaust, to carefully distinguish between anti-Zionism, which is everybody's duty, and anti-Semitism, which is reprehensible, and to put an end to the grip that American Israel Public Affairs Committee, AIPAC, an agent of a foreign power by any definition of the term, has on Congress.
Here's my personal take on both the history and the present.
Bullet point one.
The Holocaust happened.
jordan holmes
We're off and running.
We're off to a good start.
No, I'm sure that immediately following that, he says, and everything that we've learned from history is accurate, and perhaps maybe...
Racism towards the Jews is not a good idea.
dan friesen
Millions died.
However, there are several lies by omission that Zionists celebrate, and these need to be challenged.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Most of those who died did not die from gassings, but rather from Allied bombing, starvation, and typhus.
This includes those in prison camps, most of who died of starvation and typhus, not gassing.
Although, a lot of people did die from gassing, buddy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I feel like I don't need the specifics of how they died.
dan friesen
A little bit.
jordan holmes
Considering how...
It was just the Holocaust that killed them.
dan friesen
Right, and then pointing out allied bombings killed most of them.
That's not true.
jordan holmes
Not a great start.
dan friesen
That's also not accurate.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
Then he gets into a lot of other non-Jews died in the Holocaust, and it's disrespectful to their deaths to make it all about the Jews.
Okay, boy.
Okay, buddy.
jordan holmes
The Roma people were also targeted for extermination by Hitler's Jews.
Not Hitler's Jews.
Hitler's army and ideology.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
So we're not into horrific territory.
He's minimizing it.
dan friesen
Very much.
jordan holmes
He's minimizing it.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
But this is...
I wouldn't...
Go after this guy first, is my point.
We got way bigger fish to fry.
dan friesen
We do.
But he's in our...
He's in our...
Like, right in front of us.
That's true.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
So then he goes on.
His next bullet point is basically that there's tons of other genocides that have happened in the world.
And like, hey, good on you.
Good point.
jordan holmes
That's a whataboutism.
I'm not a fan of it.
dan friesen
The refusal of the Zionists to honor other genocides and mass murders, ranging toward 40 to 70 million in just one instance, is itself despicable.
Great.
Great.
Then his last bullet point in terms of this one is that we genocided the Native Americans.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
That's true.
And this is said by some to have inspired Hitler against the Jews.
No one's hands are clean in this matter.
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
That's a fair point.
I mean, many of the...
The story has been told to very few people in your high school, but many of the ideas that Hitler worked off of were originally put forward by Americans.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Which is not to say America caused the Holocaust.
That's a very different...
America...
Did their own genocide.
dan friesen
We had a peace.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So then he goes on to talk about how Zionists are responsible for people dying in the Holocaust.
jordan holmes
That's not the way to go.
dan friesen
There is clear evidence that most Jews who died in Germany did not have to die.
jordan holmes
Stop!
dan friesen
Period!
jordan holmes
That's a whole sentence!
dan friesen
Who ultimately was responsible for the suffering of the Jews in labor camps?
It was the elite Zionist Jews themselves.
This goes back to the narrative that they didn't pay ransoms to get everybody out.
jordan holmes
Now we're into...
You're on the list, my friend.
Time to fry your bitch ass.
dan friesen
Here's his next bullet point.
Zionism is a scam, and the separation of the Jewish race from the Palestinians, they share the same three DNA ancestors, is a distortion of reality on a Holocaust scale.
So yeah, okay.
unidentified
Cool, cool, cool.
jordan holmes
Look, in some way, you know, AIPAC, they supported Trump.
They're not great.
Netanyahu is a monster.
He is a fucking horrific human being.
Israel is an apartheid state.
These are true things.
But also, let's leave the Holocaust out of discussing those things, or perhaps let it inform why it is people go so far to the right.
There are a lot of complicated situations with Israel, and maybe reducing it to Zionism versus anti-Zionism is not the way to go.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
So...
Look, what I'm saying here is that Robert David Steele is at least a Holocaust minimizer.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
At least a revisionist in many ways.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And people who are in that camp swing together.
And so it's further evidence that we've got some problems with caricacity.
Like, she's not...
Her hands are not clean in this matter.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
It's concerning that there are those...
There's so many of those people who act almost like gateways into harder anti-Semitism.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
I'm anti-Zionist, and that's everybody's responsibility, and it's a very short walk from there to, well, yeah, all Jews are ultimately Zionists, and you're like, no!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, boy.
I think Robert David Steele may have been a guest on David Duke's show.
unidentified
Anyway.
jordan holmes
That's not great.
That's not great.
dan friesen
Let's get to business.
jordan holmes
I don't like it.
dan friesen
Let's get to business.
jordan holmes
Way to bring us down in the forefront of a Project Camelot episode, Dan.
dan friesen
So we've spent most of our time in the Project Camelot trenches.
Looking at how stupid Carrie Cassidy is, believing the lies of murder accessory Mark Richards.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
About the reptoids and the raptor beings.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
A delight.
dan friesen
We've also learned that in Vietnam, people were fighting spiders or something like that.
Maybe it was beetles.
jordan holmes
The spider leadership.
dan friesen
Yeah, the spider leadership was in effect.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Today, what we're going to be looking at is a video where Carrie Cassidy sits down.
And just breaking down the news, baby.
jordan holmes
She's just breaking down regular topics.
dan friesen
And this came out about a week ago or so, and there's a lot of news in the world.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes.
dan friesen
Her take on it, on stuff, is not good.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
So let's just jump in how she begins the video.
jordan holmes
Okay.
kerry cassidy
Hi everyone, this is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot.
unidentified
Hi Carrie!
kerry cassidy
Well, I've got a strange goings-on today.
dan friesen
No shit.
Anyway, uh...
jordan holmes
Does she wake up every morning saying that?
dan friesen
We've got some strange goings-on!
jordan holmes
I can feel a strange going on right now.
dan friesen
I feel like if you ever refer to things as goings-on, there's a good chance they're strange.
jordan holmes
There's a good chance.
dan friesen
It's the same thing with, like, bedfellows.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, you never said, like, un-strange.
These are very normal bedfellows.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you and I are very strange bedfellows.
dan friesen
Perhaps.
jordan holmes
And yet...
dan friesen
Because you're so bad at Scrabble and I'm awesome?
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Let me remind you, we're one and one, okay?
dan friesen
But I told you last night.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
I never lose twice.
jordan holmes
Drunkenly, you tried to explain that there is a game theory behind how you will never lose to me again.
dan friesen
Well, but I understand your strategy much better than I did the first time.
jordan holmes
I don't have a strategy.
You do.
unidentified
You do.
dan friesen
You're out for points.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
I'm out for points.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
All right.
Let's get to business.
kerry cassidy
I was going to be having a conversation with Robert David Steele, who initiated it with me.
However, he then found out he is not supposed to cover anything to do with space.
And as our topics are going to obviously cover things in space, around space, and from space.
He is not going to be able to join us after all.
So I'm here on my own.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of every thing in the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah, all things.
dan friesen
And you consider we're in space right now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, she is not aware of that.
Do you know why we're not in space right now?
dan friesen
What is that?
jordan holmes
Protective coding.
dan friesen
June Shield.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
I did not like the way you said that.
That's what Robert David Seale would say.
jordan holmes
Not like that.
dan friesen
That's what he calls the atmosphere.
He was supposed to be there.
He was supposed to be there, but he doesn't have clearance to talk about these things.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
dan friesen
Robert David Steele is one of these guys.
They pop up a lot on Alex Jones' show who are pretending that they have handlers and that they work for the CIA and shit like that.
So whenever they don't want to get into a narrative, I assume this is what they're doing.
It's like, I don't want to talk more about these Mars bases.
People are clowning on me.
I don't want to do it.
So you pretend that the higher-ups have said, it's too hot.
You can't talk about that anymore.
jordan holmes
I will put forth this possibility, though.
dan friesen
Please don't let your possibility be that he's actually working for the CIA.
He's a limited hangout.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
It is more like maybe he was like, I gotta cancel.
I got another thing.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And Carrie has to...
Carrie can't be like...
Robert canceled, because it has to be a conspiracy, so it's like, he's not allowed to come on the show today.
dan friesen
Right, yeah, that's possible.
He had to pick up the kids from soccer or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
The old ex-wife didn't let him off the chain.
So, although he's not in studio, we do get a celebrity appearance.
Not an actual celebrity appearance.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Carrie brings up a celebrity.
So let's jump.
jordan holmes
Turns out Will Smith is a raptor.
kerry cassidy
To start off with, obviously there's been a recent disclosure announcement by Tom DeLonge.
And for those of you who aren't familiar with that news, I suggest you just do a search under his last name.
He's a member of, I think, a band.
The band is called, I think it's called Blink-180, but don't quote me on that.
I actually don't have the name of this band in front of me.
dan friesen
Of course!
To quote one of their contemporaries, Blink-182's contemporaries, Mill and Colin, that was close but no cigar.
jordan holmes
Of course she doesn't know who Blink-182 is.
dan friesen
But that's fair.
jordan holmes
I know, but it's still somehow funny.
dan friesen
It is funny.
Especially since Tom DeLonge has been...
Talking about aliens and space for years.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
He has been on this tip for a very long time.
jordan holmes
You know what's crazy?
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
Not authorized to talk about Earth.
dan friesen
I know he's not.
He's also not authorized to talk about growing up anymore.
jordan holmes
Hey, absolutely.
dan friesen
Because he's not in Blink-182 anymore.
I think they're not around anymore, right?
Isn't it?
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They shouldn't have been around, period.
dan friesen
So he's pushing for disclosure, and he's trying to get alien, like, truth.
jordan holmes
Wait, a Blink-182 dude is like, we need to know more about aliens, so I am calling upon the government to release alien shit.
dan friesen
And he started to work with some people who Carrie Cassidy is going to bring up here, and she thinks they're very credible, and I have news for her.
They're not.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
kerry cassidy
And I don't know the music.
So, I apologize for that.
He has gotten very involved in this whole disclosure story, and so he is now banding up with a couple of, well...
dan friesen
Get ready for one of my favorite names that I have ever heard on this show.
jordan holmes
Hold on.
dan friesen
Wait for your question.
kerry cassidy
With several sort of heavy hitters, you might say, and they're doing something called To The Stars, and this is an organization he's starting.
Apparently, in order to try to cover what's going on on the planet to do with developing free energy, really, I would say, is maybe their big focus.
That's a noble goal.
They've got an illustrious scientist who is...
Hold on one second, because I've got a whole list of stuff here for who's involved.
It's, okay, I've got, it's Hal Pudoff is one of the main people involved, and I don't, I apologize, I'm going to have to be searching around while I'm talking here because I've got information in a lot of different places.
There's Jim Semivan who's come forward and has supposedly been working for the CIA, although Dan Smith, who is a commentator and a person who is, Somewhat read in to some degree on the Secret Space program by way of his friend Ron Pondolfi is contesting whether or not Jim Simivan is indeed who he says he is.
unidentified
laughter laughter laughter laughter Ha ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha ha!
Jim Simivan!
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
You know, this supports...
This supports the theory of nominative determinism.
unidentified
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Where if you get named something, look, you gotta live with that.
dan friesen
Or if that's like his secret agent name.
jordan holmes
Right.
I am Jim Semivan.
dan friesen
My mom was Alicia Autobus.
jordan holmes
I get people where they need to go.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Especially if they are small families.
So Jim Semivan and his brother, John Station Wagon.
unidentified
I can barely say his name without laughing.
It's delightful.
dan friesen
It's as good as Rex Chapman Duncan to me, quite frankly.
Semivan, my ass.
jordan holmes
Semivan.
dan friesen
That's so fake.
jordan holmes
Jim Semivan.
dan friesen
So, he's working with Tom DeLonge, although...
jordan holmes
And his sister, Donna Woodplating.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
unidentified
He might not be who he claims to be.
dan friesen
There are problems in the team!
jordan holmes
Yes.
Already, already we discover some issues.
dan friesen
I love the narrative.
I love it.
I can't get enough of that narrative.
It's like, we have the guy from Blake-182 putting together a super team of scientists and CIA agents, but one of them who has a silly name might be an imposter.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I love it.
jordan holmes
Somebody has to infiltrate this super team.
They can't discover...
Real facts.
No, and actually she's got- And nothing is more of a raptor name than Jim Semiband.
dan friesen
That could be.
That is a really good theory.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So also she mentioned that Hal Pudoff is involved.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was my favorite.
dan friesen
Hal Pudoff is in play, guys.
jordan holmes
Hal Pudoff.
dan friesen
So do you want to know about him?
jordan holmes
Yes, I do.
dan friesen
He is a PhD in electrical engineering.
jordan holmes
Real PhD or like a Saigon PhD?
dan friesen
From everything I can tell, he's a real PhD.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I didn't call the school.
I'll tell you that much.
jordan holmes
You should have done that.
dan friesen
So he got involved in some weird shit.
Throughout his life.
And his credibility is a little dicey.
jordan holmes
Not great.
dan friesen
In the 70s and 80s, he was part of this CIA and DIA funded program that were trying to investigate paranormal activity and abilities that people have.
So they did a study on people like Uri Geller.
Including Uri Geller.
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
You know he can't really bend spoons, guys.
dan friesen
Well, it turns out that Pudoff and Russell Targ, who was his associate...
jordan holmes
Where do these people fucking come from?
dan friesen
Raptorland.
jordan holmes
That's apparently true.
dan friesen
So these two guys who were the researchers, they became convinced Geller had genuine psychic powers.
jordan holmes
However...
dan friesen
Geller was using sleight of hand tricks.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he was working for the CIA and was like, oh yeah, this guy's legit.
But he's doing magic.
He's doing close-up magic, basically.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, of course.
dan friesen
So he's dumb.
He's a dumb guy.
jordan holmes
Very much.
dan friesen
He also is trying to work.
Towards zero-point energy, which most people believe, at least at this point, is pseudoscience.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
The stuff that's being explored.
jordan holmes
That's like cold fusion.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Come on, guys.
dan friesen
So he had some zero-point energy, electromagnetic field, low-energy, nuclear reactions.
He's, like, working on all this stuff with his company called EarthTech International.
jordan holmes
And Yuri Geller.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Yuri Geller is in play.
jordan holmes
He's a huge zero-point energy guy.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
So Putoff and Earth Tech were granted U.S. patent $5,845,220 in 1998 after five years The case of getting him this patent, even though it's not real.
jordan holmes
It's magic.
dan friesen
The case is used for educational purposes in patent law as an example of a valid patent where, quote, That's a good case.
jordan holmes
That's a good case to investigate.
dan friesen
He's used as an example of, like...
I mean, he's full of shit, but you give him...
jordan holmes
They call it Putoff's Law.
dan friesen
You give him a patent anyway, because he's...
Whatever.
jordan holmes
Because who cares?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So...
jordan holmes
Patent doesn't mean that you actually have to do anything.
You can patent, like, the thought of having a good day.
dan friesen
Right.
So he, Putoff, is a guy who wrote for the CIA that Yuri Geller was legit.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And as a...
Patent that is used as an example of bullshit patents in educational circles.
And then we've got semi-van!
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Oh boy.
And he's a PhD in electrical engineering.
Does he do any electrical engineering?
dan friesen
I think he did for a bit, but he worked with and invented turnable lasers and electron beam devices in the 1960s.
jordan holmes
That's pretty cool.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Do those actually work or are they magic too?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know anything about it.
jordan holmes
So we're talking about a kind of Jack Parsons character here who can make something really cool but also sex magic is real.
dan friesen
Right, right.
But I think his version of crazy is a little worse.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well.
dan friesen
Generally speaking.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Jack Parsons helped give us Scientology, so that's not great.
dan friesen
Also, this guy, Pudoff, was involved with Scientology for a little bit.
jordan holmes
Of course he was!
Why did I not guess that?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I love the players.
We got the lead singer of Blink-182.
Jim Semivan and Hal Pudoff, who is a disaster, and also Semivan might be not a real person.
jordan holmes
He might actually also have been in Blink-182.
dan friesen
It's possible that it's Mark Hoppus in disguise.
Unclear.
So, the good news is...
jordan holmes
What's the good news?
dan friesen
For once in her life, Carrie Cassidy is a little bit suspicious.
jordan holmes
She's a little skeptical, that's right!
That's what she was doing!
dan friesen
For the first time ever, and I think it's because she's petty.
jordan holmes
It's because she doesn't know who Blink-182 is!
dan friesen
No, it's because she's petty.
He's getting a lot of attention, and she's not.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
She thinks that she knows all the truth, and he is just some stupid lead singer of a band coming in.
Johnny come lately.
I've been studying nonsense for years.
jordan holmes
Maybe she does know who Blink-182 is.
dan friesen
Probably does.
jordan holmes
And then she was like, Blink-180, I don't know.
dan friesen
Yeah, so here we go.
jordan holmes
Who even knows who those guys are?
dan friesen
Here is her...
jordan holmes
And then she starts singing all the small things.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Here is Carrie laying out her feelings about this investigation.
jordan holmes
Okay.
kerry cassidy
They're choosing one UFO encounter out of, obviously, millions, and pretending or acting as though this is an unidentified...
I have to tell you that the Secret Space Program, and as a result, the people that are on this panel, I have to give them credit to be at least knowledgeable about the Secret Space Program, and I can tell you that they know exactly, most likely, what kind of craft it was, where it comes from, and the occupants.
So it's not really a UFO.
It's not really an unidentified aerial threat.
As Alessandro, I guess, however you say his name, Alessandro, is...
dan friesen
He's the security guy for...
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
kerry cassidy
...is claiming on that video.
So it's unfortunate, but you have a disclosure with lies right out the gate.
dan friesen
Interesting.
I wonder...
jordan holmes
I don't know how to deal with...
I don't know how to deal with Carrie saying that somebody is lying to her.
dan friesen
It's wild.
jordan holmes
I can't understand this.
dan friesen
It doesn't make sense.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
You know why?
jordan holmes
It doesn't make internal sense to the world we're talking about.
dan friesen
Exactly, because that means that that part of her brain is there.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
That's so confusing to me because it's like, wait, you're able to think that something's a lie?
Hey.
How?
How do you not exercise that part of your brain when you go to this prison and talk to this dude who hangs out with raptors with his crazy life to his wife?
jordan holmes
Everybody has blind spots.
Everybody has blind spots, Dan.
dan friesen
It turns out everything but Blink-182 is a blind spot for her.
Yes!
jordan holmes
Look, I think that's fine in the world of music as well.
dan friesen
I'll be honest, though.
I do think that it's right to question anything that Jim Semivan is involved in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but murderer is fine.
dan friesen
Right, right.
So anyway, in this next clip, oh boy, I don't know how to tell you this.
Carrie Cassidy is a lunatic.
And it's just, this clip is just a deterioration of lunacy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
kerry cassidy
So what is my premise here?
Good question.
My premise is that all of the news, every single thing you're hearing, all the false flags, The fires in Northern California, the Vegas happening, you name it, all is the result of a push by the ETs who are now coming forward, I believe, in not just one race, although the evidence I have is only about one race, which is the Reptoids, and that comes vis-a-vis Mark Richards.
However, the bottom line is that if you look at the news and you do not consider the ET side of it, You do not consider that our military is at war with various ET races.
unidentified
Of course.
kerry cassidy
And as a matter of fact, has been for quite some time.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
kerry cassidy
That there are dissension in the ranks, and that if you go back to the testimony of William Tompkins, you will see very quickly that the Nazis were, of course, helped by a race from Aldebaran, a race of reptilians as well, and that there were some Pleiadians who were helping.
At least at the time of William Tompkins.
jordan holmes
She's really not happy.
She's really not giving mammals much credit.
It's always reptiles, man.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Mammals are fine, too.
How about a race of extraterrestrial marsupials, huh?
dan friesen
Or pinnipeds.
Get some Alex Jones in here.
jordan holmes
I like some spiders.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
Well, spiders are in play in Vietnam, at least.
jordan holmes
Too many reptiles.
That's all I'm saying.
A lot of reptiles now.
Is it just because we find...
Mammals to be cute?
dan friesen
Yes.
unidentified
Is that why they can't enslave us from the space?
dan friesen
A hundred percent.
That's absolutely why, historically, there's been a distrust, an uneasy truce between the warm and the cold-blooded.
You know, and that's why we personify all these, like, really scary things as kind of lizard-y.
I mean, look at Cthulhu.
There's a lizard-iness to him.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
He looks a little cute.
Hey, Elder One, you're a cutie.
dan friesen
So, if you did not work picking up all the pieces there, one of the things that she was saying is that the fires in California and Las Vegas are part of alien attacks.
jordan holmes
Also, false flags?
dan friesen
Yeah, something or other.
Her narrative is muddy.
I would say.
jordan holmes
It's a little confused, perhaps?
dan friesen
Yeah, because later she sort of switches up what she's saying and it's actually like weapons tests.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Alright.
dan friesen
But now it's like they're false flags and these aliens are trying to push for disclosure because we won't do it.
jordan holmes
And there's multiple races.
dan friesen
Tons of them.
jordan holmes
But she only knows about one.
dan friesen
She mostly knows about the one.
jordan holmes
She mostly knows about Reptoids.
dan friesen
We're about to learn about another one.
jordan holmes
From Richards.
But, again, we have established that Richards is an unreliable narrator and the Reptoids are the good guys.
dan friesen
In theory.
I'm not ready to go that far.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
But we're about to learn about another race of aliens.
jordan holmes
I mean, raptors eat people!
Anyways.
Just for chocolate!
Anyways.
kerry cassidy
Sort of contribution to the Secret Space Aerospace program through Hughes Aerospace and...
dan friesen
Oh, that's why I paused it.
I wanted to say that, like...
I've looked into William Tompkins a little bit, and I don't know enough about him.
jordan holmes
Billy T?
dan friesen
I don't know enough to do a deep dive on him, but I will say that through looking at him and some of these other people who have come into our sphere because of Project Camelot, it turns out...
It's much easier than you'd think to say bullshit in front of Congress.
Like, it turns out the congressional record is full of people saying crazy stupid shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Like the idea that alien races from Draco help the Nazis make weather control.
jordan holmes
Or that climate change isn't real.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not space weapons.
It's climate change making everything really dry in California and making these fires way worse.
jordan holmes
Yeah, great, guys.
kerry cassidy
Other NASA and during the Apollo landings, etc.
So even back in those days, we were being helped by ETs.
That means, when I say ETs, races that, some of which may reside inside the Earth, in the inner Earth, as some people call it, and some may be in underground bases of sorts, ET underground bases.
E.T. under sea bases.
Some of those beings may consider Earth their home.
And then, of course, the ones that have gone out to the various galaxies come from various galaxies.
Of course, Draco being one of the more notorious.
unidentified
Reptoids.
kerry cassidy
And, of course, the reptoids who are human-reptilian hybrids.
And they are causing a great deal of problems here on Earth.
They are backing certain governments and not others.
And they, of course, were backing the Nazis back in the day.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, I mean, hey, fun.
The human reptile chimeras get in there a little bit.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
They're not chimeras.
dan friesen
They're hybrids.
jordan holmes
They are hybrids.
They are not chimeras.
dan friesen
Right.
But it's similar.
There's similarities to the narratives that we see in Alex.
And, you know, Alex has had David Icke on.
That's David Icke to a T. Yeah.
So I just want to point those things out as we go along because there is much more overlap than Alex probably would like to admit.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
If he watched her show and actually listened to it and was like, I think she's on to something.
dan friesen
No, I think he'd have to be like, if he was alone, he'd be like, oh no.
But if he was with other people, he'd be like, I don't know what he would do.
jordan holmes
That'd be interesting.
Before we go any further, quick question.
Carrie Cassidy, how do we feel about ghosts?
dan friesen
How does she feel about it, or how do I feel about it vis-a-vis her?
jordan holmes
No.
Is she a ghost?
First question.
dan friesen
I think she's a ghost.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Second question.
dan friesen
I'm so glad you brought up this question.
jordan holmes
Second question.
Does she ever talk about ghosts?
Does she believe in ghosts?
Or is she like hard sci-fi and ghosts are fantasy?
unidentified
Let me tell you this.
jordan holmes
What direction are we going here?
dan friesen
Let me tell you this.
Knowing literally nothing?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I guarantee she believes in ghosts.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Maybe she's a Heinlein here.
Maybe she's just hard sci-fi all the way.
dan friesen
I guarantee she believes in ghosts.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And it somehow has to do with reptiles.
jordan holmes
All right.
Reptoid ghosts?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How do they haunt people?
Is it different than a regular haunting?
dan friesen
Yeah, they haunt by protecting chocolate from raptor ghosts.
jordan holmes
No wonder my chocolate keeps disappearing.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
It's not that you're sleep-eating it.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So in this next clip...
jordan holmes
It's raptor ghosts.
dan friesen
In this next clip, we get to hear a little bit more about Nazis.
jordan holmes
Okay.
kerry cassidy
Of course, if you follow the work of Jim Mars and Joseph Farrell, you will...
dan friesen
These are both people who have been on Alex Jones' show.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
kerry cassidy
You will know that the Fourth Reich is alive and well here in the United States and being orchestrated as such.
And, of course, kudos to Jim Mars, who did pass on but contributed a great deal to this story that we have that goes far beyond what the people behind the scenes...
Understandably.
To the stars, this organization started again by Tom DeLonge, which is currently doing some disclosure of a very, let's say, complex kind.
dan friesen
It is pretty complex.
The disclosure that he's trying to push through.
jordan holmes
What is he trying to push through?
dan friesen
That aliens are here.
That's basically what he's been yelling about for years.
jordan holmes
So is it just...
dan friesen
That's why Blink-182 doesn't exist anymore, because he just keeps screaming about aliens.
It's a bigger priority.
It's like me doing stand-up.
I gotta do stand-up anymore.
I gotta yell about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
Alex Jones...
unidentified
Or...
dan friesen
Is to me as aliens are to Tom DeLonge.
jordan holmes
Or has he actually been writing anti-Raptor music this whole time and the Raptors finally took him down because they got to the other members of Blink-182?
dan friesen
I'm trying to think.
The girl at the rock show was a Raptor.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
Take off your pants and jacket.
Raptors don't wear jackets.
jordan holmes
You know what else?
Bruce Springsteen?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Reptoid.
dan friesen
What's my age again is because Raptors age differently.
They have to do...
They have to do an equation to try and figure out how much am I in human years?
jordan holmes
Of course.
Of course.
dan friesen
I'm gonna kill you for chocolate.
jordan holmes
They're number one single.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
It seemed curious at the time.
Made no sense.
jordan holmes
Who propelled that to number one on the charts?
The Raptors did.
dan friesen
People with people with names like Sebivan.
In Raptors.
This shit is so stupid.
unidentified
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
The Billboard Hot 100 Raptors.
dan friesen
In this next clip, we get to hear her say more about not trusting Tom DeLonge.
kerry cassidy
This is in part of necessity, one imagines, because I don't think they will have the blessing of the whole secret space program.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
kerry cassidy
That means that they've got the Illuminati side, the side that is run by probably predominantly Satanists.
And then the other side, which may be considered as the Bush Cabal or Rockefeller contingent, whether and where the overlaps may happen, who are Satanists within those groups and who are just plain Nazis?
Or fascists, however you want to term them.
It's unclear.
She's against fascism?
We don't know those necessary divisions and alliances, but we do know that the secret space program is orchestrated in large part by individuals who are members of both those groups.
dan friesen
So Satanists and the Illuminati.
This is Alex Jones' shit.
I mean, you just replace aliens with globalists, and you're there.
You're three quarters of the way there.
And you know why?
We'll get to why.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I will explain exactly why in this episode.
jordan holmes
Does she believe Satan is real?
dan friesen
She must.
jordan holmes
Because she's worried about Satanists.
I mean, you can be worried about Satanists without actually believing that Satanists are real.
dan friesen
Can I ask you to put a pin in that question for a couple of clips?
Because I think I can actually...
I might be able to answer that.
jordan holmes
You might be able to get that one going?
dan friesen
I might in a way that...
jordan holmes
I know Alex...
Believes in Satan as a very literal being.
I feel like Carrie would have to go space with it, though.
dan friesen
I beg you to put a pin in it.
jordan holmes
It's actually galactic Satan, as they say.
dan friesen
I beg you to put a pin in it.
jordan holmes
Lucifer literally fell from the heavens.
dan friesen
Exactly.
unidentified
There we go.
dan friesen
Now hold on to that question.
kerry cassidy
This gets into the child trafficking and the sort of Satanist agenda, if you will, that dovetails perfectly.
If you think about it, with the reptilian agenda and the reptoids and what they're doing to take over Earth here and having to do with sucking the energy of humans, killing humans for food, using our juices for aphrodisiacs, etc.
unidentified
That's what sperm banks are really about.
dan friesen
Or sperm in the lattes.
kerry cassidy
Sacrificial types, exercises.
All of this is a combination of the, as I say, the agenda of the Satanists and the agenda of the Reptoids that does completely coincide.
The Reptoids being the more, you might say, Nazi side of things, and the Satanists being the more vampirics.
dan friesen
This is Alex Jones shit.
This is globalist stuff.
This is exactly what Alex believes about the globalists.
That they are heavily invested in child trafficking and drinking your kids' blood.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And what have you.
jordan holmes
Why is it that all crazy people are crazy in the dumb way?
dan friesen
And it seems very similar ways.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know why?
Because it's all archaic anti-Semitism.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
It's blood libel.
jordan holmes
Here's the other thing.
dan friesen
That's why Carrie Cassidy and Alex Jones, who appear on paper, to be very different.
She is exposing the secret space program and spider leadership and what have you.
Alex Jones thinks that there's a war against white dudes and we've got to stand up for our virility.
And the reason that they can come together is because the villains that they've chosen, in the case of Carrie Cassidy, it's reptoids and all that.
In Alex Jones' case, he calls them globalists.
The defining characteristics that they give to those people and their motivations are based on...
Archaic anti-Semitism that is all old-timey propaganda that was used to demonize and slaughter Jews.
And that's why she's super cool with having someone like Robert David Steele on her show.
So if there are people out there who don't know what...
jordan holmes
Further proof, however, that the Reptoids are actually the good guys because in real life, Satanists are the good guys.
Every church of Satan is always about, hey, let's be cool.
dan friesen
So if you guys out there don't know what blood libel is...
unidentified
You are living in a happier world.
dan friesen
The blood libel originated in medieval England with the death of William of Norwich.
William was a 12-year-old Tanner's apprentice who was killed in 1144.
At the time of his death, the parents accused the local Jewish community of responsibility, but investigations revealed nothing.
Six years later, Thomas of Monmouth, a Benedictine monk, decided to investigate and sensationalize the murder.
Drawing purely on anti-Semitic hearsay and sensationalism, he wrote a martyrdom account, The Life and Miracles of William of Norwich, in which he said the local Jews, acting as a part of an international conspiracy, crucified the young boy as part of a ritual to reclaim Heard that one before.
Monmouth's work was used to garner financial support from pilgrimages to the boy's grave and laid the foundations for the blood libel.
Similar stories crop up throughout Europe in the Middle Ages, often accompanied by episodes of violence and retaliation towards journalists, Jews.
unidentified
Stories of mob lynchings and illegal trials abound, especially during the Crusades, when these stories were used to justify progroms.
dan friesen
In the case of the disappearance of two-year-old Simon of Trent in March 1475, the entire Jewish community was arrested and 15 men burned at the stake after being forced to confess under torture.
Until 1965, Simon of Trent was regarded as a saint by the Catholic Church.
Throughout history...
jordan holmes
Great-great-grandson of Simon of Trent?
dan friesen
Throughout history, the specifics of the blood libel varied and expanded.
It primarily involved the baking of Christian blood in Passover matzah, but early accounts also occasionally described the crucifixion of children, the poisoning of wells, and the use of Christian blood to heal cuts from circumcision.
It should go without saying that these lurid stories and all their manifestations are patently untrue.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah?
Who would have guessed?
dan friesen
Yeah, so the thing that is important there is...
All this stuff, like Alex does it on his show, Carrie does it on her show, the idea that these evil forces, whatever they may be, want your kids and they want to drink their blood, all that sort of stuff, use them in rituals, that all dates back to this blood libel.
jordan holmes
It's all demagoguery that's built around mob mentality.
dan friesen
Because it's very effective.
jordan holmes
It's an attractive proposition to...
Be able to blame everything on a group.
Because then you have a very clear-cut enemy, and once you defeat that enemy, all of your problems go away.
So no matter how many problems you have, you never have to actually deal with them.
You can always just blame them on somebody else.
It's an abdication of personal responsibility that is mind-boggling.
dan friesen
And in this column I've been reading from, there's another point about that.
These accusations are effective because they strike at the heart of society's fears about outsiders.
They involve the most vulnerable, children, the destruction of public resources, wells, or the presence of secret organizations and societies missed.
So the other thing there that we bring in, along with the blood libel, is the poisoning of wells.
That's another format of archaic anti-Semitism.
And, I mean, who knows if we can find a great example of Carrie Cassidy doing it, but fucking can't get better than the fluoride in the water narrative.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
The idea that the globalists are putting fluoride in the water is 100% the grandchild, much like Jim Semivan, of the idea that Jews would go around and poison wells in order to kill Christians.
It's completely nonsensical.
And Alex bases all of it on this Harvard study that he always goes back to.
He always says, there's a Harvard study that came out, drops the IQ and what have you.
I did a little bit of looking into that.
And what it turns out is this was a 2012 study of studies.
There were some people, a couple of researchers at Harvard, that compiled 27 studies that had already been done about fluoride.
But they were all from China.
All the studies were from China.
And that's not to say there's anything wrong with China, but it is to say...
That the rates at which they have fluoride in the water, very different than American.
The people who did the study came out and said, this is not applicable in America.
It has nothing to do with the rates of water fluoridation here.
And in fact, everybody at Harvard, every professor of medicine and dentistry and all that shit, all of them came out and said that they support water fluoridation.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
So these guys did a meta-analysis of all of these studies, and then they were like, hey, America has the right level of fluoride in their water, and maybe don't go too far with fluoride.
dan friesen
While accepting that there is a scientific reality that if you have too much, it can cause a valuable fluoride.
jordan holmes
If you have a crazy amount of anything in your water, it's probably not going to go well.
dan friesen
Also...
In their own paper that Alex Jones cites all the time, this passage appears.
Each of these articles reviewed had deficiencies, in some cases rather serious ones, that limit the conclusions that can be drawn.
That's in the paper that Alex is trying to say, "This is proof!
The globalists are trying to poison your children!" And the reason he does that is because of archaic anti-Semitism, which goes back to why he's so swayed by the protocols of the elders of Zion and his worldview that he's Why do people...
unidentified
It's...
Ugh!
dan friesen
They're everywhere.
jordan holmes
Leave the Jews alone!
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
What else do we gotta do?
dan friesen
I don't...
jordan holmes
It's so frustrating because, again, you go back 500 years, you go back to the medieval ages and you hear the same dumb shit that you do now?
dan friesen
That's what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
It's 2017!
dan friesen
That's what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
The year begins with a two!
dan friesen
If you guys want to keep this up, like this anti-Semitism stuff, fucking get creative.
jordan holmes
Stop giving InfoWars advice, Dan!
dan friesen
Switch it up, baby!
Don't do this blood libel poisoning the well shit.
Come up with something new.
I don't know how you would.
But anyway, let's move on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, our job is criticism, not providing solutions.
dan friesen
My point that Carrie Cassidy and Alex Jones both live in the same archaic anti-Semitism well, and they refuse to get out of it, I think has been made.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And now let's jump back into something fun.
kerry cassidy
There are other races, such as the, let's see, well, you would say the mantis beings or mantids.
unidentified
Of course.
kerry cassidy
And also there are some dragon moths.
I don't know why.
There's another race that has come to the fore.
A lot of the races are...
Even unknown.
And I would say that's true of the secret space program as well.
dan friesen
Not sure what that sentence means.
jordan holmes
Alright, so we got mantis people.
dan friesen
Mantids.
jordan holmes
Mantids.
We got dragon moths, because why not?
dan friesen
I gotta be honest, that's my favorite thing ever.
jordan holmes
What's a dragon moth?
dan friesen
Dragon moths.
jordan holmes
Is a dragon moth a real thing?
dan friesen
I mean, what do you think?
I don't mean that to be as aggressive as it came out, but what the fuck do you think if they're real?
jordan holmes
Why can't...
No, I mean, we have mantises.
Those are real.
dan friesen
Hashtag not all dragon moths.
jordan holmes
No, mantises are real, so she's just doing an extraterrestrial mantis.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
So dragon moths, there could be a dragon moth.
It could be a regular thing.
dan friesen
You mean, like, maybe just like a...
jordan holmes
Just like a regular moth, but it's called a dragon moth.
dan friesen
Oh, I misunderstood.
jordan holmes
I don't believe that dragon moths are actually coming to us from outer space.
dan friesen
I misunderstood the question.
Dragon Moths very well might be wrong.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate her trick as opposed to Alex Jones.
She does not provide over examples.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
She goes, Mantids, Dragon Moths, etc.
You got it.
You got the game after that.
What else is there to say?
But once you get Mantids...
And dragon moths?
The whole game is up.
dan friesen
Right.
We already have spider leadership that's in play.
unidentified
Could be fucking anything.
dan friesen
Now we've got dragon moth beings.
We've got mantis creatures.
jordan holmes
We've got some ethereals.
dan friesen
We're heavy on bugs, I'll be honest.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Get creative.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Like, what else do we got?
I want to go with the caterpillar evil race, but they crystallize later.
Like, maybe the entire Earth.
The Earth's core...
dan friesen
You're still on bugs, bro.
jordan holmes
The Earth's core is actually caterpillar silk.
And eventually, Earth will explode.
Not because of human intervention or climate change, but because the dragon moth finally awoke.
dan friesen
The climate change that we're experiencing is actually friction from him trying to get out of there.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's as reasonable as Congress.
So, I did some looking into this.
I was trying to find moth aliens and what I can learn about them.
jordan holmes
And you picked up 30 versions of Godzilla vs.
Mothra.
dan friesen
I have seen that, and a little bit of trivia.
Pharaoh Monch's song, Simon Says, samples the Godzilla vs.
Mothra theme song in a very aggressive way.
I actually got into a big fight about this.
jordan holmes
If Blink-182 sampled them, then we know it's been there since the beginning.
dan friesen
I got into a big fight about this.
A couple people have said in the past that it's just the Godzilla march.
It's not.
It's specifically the one from Mothra, and I do know that for a fact.
Everyone can go fly a moth-shaped kite.
jordan holmes
A dragon moth shaped kite.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
I respect that.
I'm a little bit worried that you've gotten into multiple fights about this.
dan friesen
Well, it's probably with the same person.
My memory is a little hazy.
jordan holmes
This could be something that you can let go.
dan friesen
I can't, because I'm right.
I will not let go of any Pharaoh Monch or Rex Chapman related arguments in the future.
jordan holmes
Fair.
dan friesen
So, I looked into this and I found an encyclopedia of alien races.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
And I found actually some interesting stuff.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So there's the Mothman that, you know, people are going all hog wild about there being a Mothman in Chicago.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So that's hot.
That's a hot topic.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
So the Mothmen are largely subterranean, pterodactyloid-like humans with bat-like wings.
jordan holmes
So they're not really related to moths at all.
dan friesen
Not really.
Sometimes they are described as possessing horns and thus considered very similar to the traditional depiction of the devil, according to certain individuals who have encountered them.
Although often referred to as Mothman, the title might be a little misleading.
jordan holmes
I was misled.
dan friesen
Also...
Mothmen are considered Draco aliens.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
The leader elite of the reptilians are the Draco.
They even have special wings, which are flaps of skin supported by long ribs.
These can be folded back against the body.
They're also known as the dragon race, and their symbology usually includes the winged serpent.
jordan holmes
Well, it's from Draco, guys.
Come on.
dan friesen
They're also known as the Mothmen.
There are elements of their species that do not have wings, the soldier class of the species, and the, quote, scientists.
So, look, I mean, the dragon moth is fun, but she's really just describing Dracos as a different name.
She talks about Dracos.
That's not new.
It's exciting.
unidentified
Disappointing.
dan friesen
But also, based on the fact that they're in Chicago, might be real.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Might be real.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
And this might be what she thinks of when she thinks of the devil.
Because they're often, like, you know, described as devil.
jordan holmes
If they're described as devil.
Okay.
All right.
So Satanists perhaps don't worship Satan, but they worship the Draco.
dan friesen
The dragon moths of Draco.
unidentified
The dragon...
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We're digging in too deep here.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't actually think they're real.
But in this next clip, Carrie lists off a bunch of fake technologies that she has uncovered.
kerry cassidy
If you reveal the ability to tap into things like what, in essence, is being talked about, things like energy from water, certainly plasma physics, and what is called free energy or zero-point energy.
So there is so much out there.
All disease could be healed.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
This is Randy Kramer and the Regenerative MedBeds.
jordan holmes
All your problems are somebody else's fault.
kerry cassidy
Our age, the amount of time we live could be extended indefinitely, etc.
So it's an endless amount of things that are going on again in the secret space program.
dan friesen
In almost no time of paying attention to her.
We have been able to figure out where these narratives come from, track down the sources of them, and find how bogus they are.
Between, like, in that clip, she's talking about Hal Pudoff, who we talked about earlier in this episode, and Randy Kramer with the regenerative med beds that he still has a GoFundMe up for.
jordan holmes
When are we gonna get into Jim Minivan?
That's our headliner, man.
dan friesen
I gotta be honest.
Jim Minivan is...
jordan holmes
No longer in play?
dan friesen
He's in play, but I don't know anything about him.
He might not be real.
Quite frankly.
jordan holmes
What if Kerry Cassidy is right?
For once, Kerry gets it right.
dan friesen
I found, like, I did Google and look for Jim Minivan, and all I can find is he wrote a foreword to a book where he claims to have worked for the CIA for 25 years, but I don't know if that's true.
I don't know anything about the man.
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
If you don't know anything about the man...
That supports his claim that he works for the CIA.
dan friesen
And also, I'd like to have him hang out with Jim Photoglow.
Musician Jim Photoglow and Jim Semivan hanging out together.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
The Jims.
jordan holmes
How many people work for the Secret Space Program?
Their infrastructure must be insane.
dan friesen
It's gotta be...
jordan holmes
Because they're doing everything.
dan friesen
Everything.
jordan holmes
Everything.
dan friesen
And it's complex work.
jordan holmes
And if there's so many of them, how is it that it hasn't gotten out?
There has to be whole planned communities built around the secret space program.
dan friesen
I think our next episode is probably going to be about Andrew Baziago.
The next time we dip into Project Camelot, I was listening to a lecture that he gave the other day, and it's fucking wild stuff.
His origin story is that when he was a kid, his dad, who may or may not have been a little bit of a booze guy, he showed him a paper, and he's like, you write this in 40 years.
It came back in time.
You have to study this in order for him to write it in the future.
He's like, holy shit!
And then he gets into time traveling with Barack Obama, back when his name was Barry Satoro.
It's great.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Andrew Baziago's...
jordan holmes
That's wild.
dan friesen
He's a lot of fun.
jordan holmes
That's wild shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm in.
dan friesen
So, anyway.
What was the point there?
jordan holmes
I think it's that there is infinite life that's possible.
Zero point energy.
Hydro energy, which I like to describe as...
Hydroelectric energy provided to us from dams.
dan friesen
I think she's saying that you can just have some water right here on the table.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
And it powers everything.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think that's what she's getting at.
I'm not entirely sure.
jordan holmes
What about whale oil?
How does she feel about whale oil?
dan friesen
Blubber?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
She's into it.
jordan holmes
Can that power everything?
dan friesen
It's a conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Or do the reptoids eat it?
dan friesen
The reptoids suckle on it.
jordan holmes
So that's where...
Okay.
Now we just explained the whole Japanese whaling situation.
dan friesen
100%.
jordan holmes
They're absolutely feeding the reptoids.
dan friesen
And clubbing baby seals.
Of course.
Why would anybody do that except to feed raptors?
jordan holmes
They're too cute.
dan friesen
Totally.
So now we take a turn into current events because she said she was going to get into current events and has not yet really at all.
kerry cassidy
I can also say that for background to this information I'm giving you, you must watch all of the Project Camelot interviews, especially with what are called whistleblowers.
And those cross many disciplinary areas.
And so what you can do is learn a great deal.
By adding and connecting the dots.
And this is really all I'm doing.
It's not rocket science.
It's quite easy to do.
But what I find is that most people out there, regardless of how much study they do, and this includes my so-called colleagues in this sector, do not have the ability to connect the dots because they are not paying attention, especially to some of the most important witnesses out there.
And that has to do with, obviously, people like William Tompkins, people like Mark Richards, Captain Mark Richards.
who I've interviewed in prison now seven times.
jordan holmes
Gotta use his honorific.
kerry cassidy
And all those interviews are available.
dan friesen
Quick reminder, she believes that he has a personified spaceship named Minerva that he flies around in in space and hangs out with raptors who will kill you for chocolate.
kerry cassidy
Camelot.
And many, many more.
In other words, if you're not following the story and connecting the dots, the through line from the beginning of the story until now, then you don't understand what is happening.
You do not understand what is going on when the Illuminati decide to conduct a false flag operation.
When they decide to test a weapon, such as they are doing in Northern California, when they decide to clear off certain areas of ground, sort of a slash and burn mentality, which is what they've done in a portion of Santa Rosa area.
In other words, you do not understand the bigger picture.
You don't understand why they're doing this.
And so you can't even believe that they are doing it, that it's being orchestrated.
dan friesen
She just said nothing.
jordan holmes
Why are they doing it?
dan friesen
She doesn't say.
Is she clearing off land?
But here's the thing.
jordan holmes
She's mixing a lot of metaphors and then also at the same time confusing these so-called people who have what you would call stuff to do, who do things like what you would call going outside.
No, you don't need to pad with so many words.
We can use...
We can use language.
dan friesen
It's tough.
It's tough sometimes.
jordan holmes
What you need to do is connect the dots, add the dots, figure out what the through line is there, go back, look, see if there are more dots, and if you can't connect those dots, you don't even know why fires happen, Dan.
dan friesen
At this point...
jordan holmes
Fire is a false flag by the Illuminati.
dan friesen
At this point, I don't know what a dot is, quite frankly.
And hey, here's a dot I've connected.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Archaic anti-Semitism.
So there's that, Kerry.
Why don't you study a little bit?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fucking...
jordan holmes
Weird.
dan friesen
So, the problem that comes into this, like, with the idea of these fires being, like, a false flag or a laser weapon or whatever to clear off land and what have you, it's gonna fall apart pretty tremendously when everything gets rebuilt.
You know?
That argument is probably not very valid.
Like, you know, clearing off the land when it just gets reused probably the exact same way.
jordan holmes
They're testing the weapon.
Also, it works well because it creates jobs.
Everybody knows that the best contractors are the spider leadership.
dan friesen
There's no doubt.
jordan holmes
I mean, they've got so many hands.
dan friesen
So many.
jordan holmes
They can spin their own wood.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I assume if they're that much larger, then they stopped with silk and they started going straight to two by fours.
dan friesen
Undoubtedly.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And stucco.
Drywall.
jordan holmes
Those are the baby spiders.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Baby spiders start with drywall.
dan friesen
Right.
And then you get a little bit older and you can start spinning brick.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
You become a mason spider.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
Of course.
dan friesen
So that, she doesn't believe.
jordan holmes
The Dracos provide, of course, cardboard.
dan friesen
Blood.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Concrete.
dan friesen
She doesn't believe that the fires are real or legitimate.
And in this next clip, she gets into something else that she doesn't believe.
kerry cassidy
Vegas is a controlled situation, that it was orchestrated, that it was not a lone gunman, that Patek is, by all appearances, what we call a Manchurian candidate, a Patsy, and it's even possible that he never even fired a gun, and so on.
So we've got to look below the surface.
In a deeper way than what's going on on YouTube right now, people have to start understanding that our military has been fighting with various races of ETs behind the scenes, and that these ETs have the ability to wipe the mines and to disconnect.
Your consciousness in such a way that you do not recall seeing them.
And this goes for soldiers on a battlefield, whether it's Vietnam with the spider beings.
You can watch my prior shows to see more about that.
Or whether it's the Reptoids who are building Stargates in the Middle East and who are the reason there is a constant battle going on in the Middle East, at least partially, because they are...
Very much there.
jordan holmes
That's what the Iran deal was really about.
kerry cassidy
ISIS is out there beck and call.
unidentified
Goddammit.
kerry cassidy
ISIS is reporting to them by way of the CIA.
And you must understand that the CIA has many loyalties.
dan friesen
One of which is to aliens.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
ISIS is controlled by aliens.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Makes sense.
jordan holmes
That makes as much sense as anything else.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I mean, look, really, let's face it.
They're very obvious.
It's just that this seems so far out there, but is there any difference between saying that it's aliens or God?
dan friesen
Not really.
jordan holmes
It's the same shit.
Is this any dumber?
Is saying that Minerva is your flying spaceship any dumber than a congressman holding up a snowball and saying climate change isn't real?
unidentified
It's not really.
jordan holmes
These are all dumb people, and they're just dumb in different ways.
dan friesen
But hear me out on this.
jordan holmes
We're just like...
More familiar with certain types of crazy.
dan friesen
Right, but the rationalizations for religion are much more simple.
They're usually, you know, you could fall back on God works in mysterious ways and stuff like that.
And that's good enough.
Whereas she's got to come up with, like, Byzantine organizations in order to rationalize ISIS being controlled by aliens.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, but you got angels and you got all that shit.
Like, it all goes back to people wanting to believe in magic.
dan friesen
There's some admin.
Don't get me wrong.
Even in religion, there's some admin work you gotta do.
jordan holmes
Okay, I got you.
dan friesen
But the reason that this seems so stupid and is much more amusing is because of the need to explain things or else people will be like, you're making this up.
jordan holmes
But see, that's what happens now because we have science.
dan friesen
There's no God whistleblower.
You know what I'm saying?
jordan holmes
Oh, are you kidding me?
dan friesen
I guess there are people who had near-death experiences.
jordan holmes
So many God whistleblowers.
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
They're not presented as such.
jordan holmes
So this is what happened whenever science actually worked.
Like, this is the issue with all of these crazy people.
And it's the same thing that happens with God people now trying to explain why evolution isn't real.
They have to go into, like, oh, these were planted by God to test your faith.
Like, they have to go through all of these different, ever more complicated explanations in order to justify the belief in something stupid rather than just be like, oh, we figured it out?
Ugh, that's boring.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Even though it's an incredibly exciting and magical thing that we know stuff, it has to be ridiculous.
dan friesen
Well, see, you're expressing something that I think you'll agree with what Carrie says at the beginning of this next clip.
jordan holmes
You gotta follow the dots?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You gotta connect the circles of dots with the three.
dan friesen
No, I think you'll agree with the first sentence of this, and then everything else, no.
jordan holmes
Okay.
kerry cassidy
And so getting the truth out is really, you know, a vote for health of the human race.
And they are in great need of healing at this time, needless to say.
Wonderful.
unidentified
So that's what really the effort is in part here to raise awareness.
Yes.
kerry cassidy
Wonderful.
Oh, boy.
And why we are at odds with Iran and the races that Iran is associated with.
And why we are actually already at war with North Korea.
Because North Korea has been backed by a certain ET race.
And our real war is with that ET race and not necessarily the North Koreans.
So this is what we have to start to understand.
dan friesen
So, I mean, if you just take away the alien race and put globalists in there, it's...
Largely the same thing.
It's so boring on one level.
jordan holmes
I'm somehow becoming offended that she's racist against imaginary things.
Yeah, it's weird.
Racism is bad even if it's made up?
dan friesen
It is weird.
jordan holmes
Like, doesn't that follow?
dan friesen
The hard bias against certain alien races is a little weird.
jordan holmes
That's frustrating to me.
dan friesen
It's not frustrating to me.
It rolls off me like water off a duck.
jordan holmes
Look, I know it's low on issues.
I know it's low on our list of problems.
But I feel like you shouldn't be racist anyways.
dan friesen
I agree.
jordan holmes
Maybe, Carrie, if you acknowledge that all of these People are individuals.
Perhaps that's the way to start healing.
Maybe raptors are not one monolithic block.
Maybe these are people.
Maybe it's the spider leadership that's the issue.
And not the spiders.
It's not that we're at war with North Korea.
We're at war with North Korea's government.
The North Korean people are wonderful people.
And we should not dehumanize them and say that they're just part of it.
dan friesen
I honestly think that might be what she's trying to express in some way or another.
The idea that the dictatorship that's in place in North Korea is alien.
I don't think that she understands that that might be what she's trying to say.
Because she really believes that there are aliens pulling the strings.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Of course.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
But again, she's so...
dan friesen
You know what?
Here it is.
What it comes down to is the world is fucking rough.
It's rough out there right now.
jordan holmes
It is rough out there.
dan friesen
And it's complicated.
It's very difficult to accept in the case of the Las Vegas shooting that someone would do that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's really tough to believe that there is a potential within humanity to be a dictator and oppress your people.
There is a potential within humans to have...
Centuries-long conflicts regionally between ethnic groups or between different populations.
It is possible.
That is what we come from.
That's the roots of humanity.
That's not aliens making us do it.
But it's so much more comforting to say, oh, it's aliens.
unidentified
They did it because it's fucking tough to realize.
dan friesen
But for the grace of God, that could be you doing all these things.
jordan holmes
Possible.
dan friesen
Circumstances could be that you're born differently.
jordan holmes
In the infinite multiverse, there is an episode of this podcast where A, I know everything about Alex Jones and you don't know anything about Alex Jones.
Or B...
I know everything about raptors, and you don't know anything about raptors.
dan friesen
You're Mark Richards in an alternate universe.
jordan holmes
Of course.
I've thought about hiring people to kill things.
Right.
dan friesen
I mean, look.
jordan holmes
I haven't.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
No, I know.
I was just trying to move on.
Yeah.
This is just a pathetic comfort blanket, in many ways.
In the same way that, like, you know, a lot of these dudes, I think they ended up living not great lives, not the lives that they wanted to, and so they come up with a robust backstory.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's much more comforting to say I was a secret soldier for 50 years protecting the solar guardian or whatever, and then miraculously I was put back into my 18-year-old body 15 minutes later.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
As opposed to saying, like, well, I've had some dead-end jobs, and I'm not really all that interesting.
I made it to middle management, and I mean, here I am.
I'm single at 50, and, you know, I guess I like Star Trek.
So, I mean, I have some passions in my life, but I've amounted to not really anything that changes the world.
It's much more fun to say the other bike story.
jordan holmes
Well, that's how What's-His-Face became King of America, the guy in San Francisco.
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
You didn't know that?
dan friesen
Do we have a king?
jordan holmes
So, in San Francisco, I want to say in the early or like the mid-1800s, there was a guy who was just like, America needs a king.
And so he declared himself King of America.
I'm going to hear this guy.
Eventually, he became a famous...
So what he would do is he was like a panhandler, but he would give out his own money to people in exchange for...
Human money, I suppose, is what you would call it.
dan friesen
He wasn't a hobo, he was a currency exchange.
jordan holmes
Kind of, yeah.
He just declared himself king, and when he died, there was a huge procession, and like 20,000 people came out to watch him.
He became a national celebrity, or at least a San Francisco celebrity, and it was fucking bananas.
So sometimes creating this fantasy world...
Shakes out?
I don't know.
dan friesen
In Columbia, Missouri, there was a guy who declared himself king as well.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
There was a transient gentleman, street drunk, as it were.
And he had a Burger King crown, and he declared himself the king of Columbia.
jordan holmes
All right.
Now, I like that.
dan friesen
The police routinely would just take him out to the city line.
Who would it be called?
Just the border of Columbia.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And drop him off and just be like...
Go to another town.
jordan holmes
Become king of wherever you want to.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Not here.
dan friesen
We don't have charges to press.
Get out.
jordan holmes
Just stop being king of Colombia.
dan friesen
Right.
I disagreed with that policy quite a bit.
I think that's very cruel.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
But be that as it may, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Maybe if you treated him like a king, he would have become a king.
dan friesen
I think a lot of people did.
A lot of people would bow.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
A lot of people were like, how's it going, king?
kerry cassidy
Right.
dan friesen
It's great.
I don't know, man.
jordan holmes
Humans are fucked up.
dan friesen
We got one more clip here, and we started the show by Carrie explaining that Robert David...
jordan holmes
And I can say that because I'm a reptoid.
dan friesen
Sure.
Robert David Steele couldn't make it today.
And we get to close it up by her talking about him.
kerry cassidy
The fact that Robert David Steele was unable to join me on this broadcast in spite of the fact that I sent him this information before the broadcast.
He was in full consciousness about it.
However, he got direction from outside, one can imagine.
Knowing that he is a member of a certain group, and he is himself working as a good guy, really, to disclose certain information, but he has found that the As we say, the secret space,
the real story about the ET intervention here on planet Earth is something that he's not allowed to elaborate on in spite of the fact that he did go on Alex Jones and allude to it, and he never backed off what he stated, which is that he understood there to be 10,000 humans on Mars who were never coming home, some of whom were sent there as children.
So this is the kind of information.
I mean, these wildfires that end up happening,
dan friesen
Usually from somebody accidentally setting a fire or camping or lightning strikes in the forest.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're a legitimate part of the ecosystem.
We wouldn't have sequoia trees if it weren't for wildfires.
Right.
It's natural.
There's a reason that we contain them, not try and destroy them.
The problem is we can't contain these because of our...
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Doing.
dan friesen
It's not a laser.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But Robert David Steele's a good dude.
jordan holmes
It seems like, I feel like that support, what she just said supports my theory of he was like, nah.
dan friesen
Nah, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because if she sent him the information that she wanted to talk about, he would have read that and been like, dude.
That's too far, even for me, Robert David Steele.
dan friesen
I have some things I'm still trying to do.
I can't come along on this ride with you, Carrie.
jordan holmes
Not just that, but like, whoa, lady, you are nuts.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
There are 10,000 people on Mars, but come on, Dragon Moths, get the fuck out of here!
dan friesen
I mean, the Mars base, we take that as red.
Yeah, of course!
That's understood.
jordan holmes
Everybody knows that.
dan friesen
But yeah, so I mean...
jordan holmes
The secret space program isn't that powerful.
dan friesen
No.
Robert David Steele, I am pretty comfortable saying that he is at least fairly dubious and probably anti-Semitic.
I don't want to say out and out that he is just because, you know, I don't think that...
I think it's...
jordan holmes
He's trying to skirt the line of anti-Semitism.
dan friesen
He's playing games.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think the reason is because he holds some beliefs that are not true.
jordan holmes
He's attracting and perhaps courting anti-Semitism.
Yes.
But not necessarily diving whole hog into it.
dan friesen
Right.
And one of them that he's courting is unfortunately Carrie Cassidy.
Whether or not the clip that we played at the top of the show is as damning as it feels, the rest of the stuff, the worldview, the blood libel, that sort of stuff is clearly indicative of what she believes.
jordan holmes
And it is also prevalent on our boy Alex Jones.
dan friesen
100%.
jordan holmes
And that's another one of those things.
Just like Alex...
Robert David Steele insists he's not anti-Semitic.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
I'm anti-Zionist.
Call it differently.
Don't do that.
Or Alex, no, I'm starting a debate.
I'm not blanketly agreeing with these people, even though amongst all of the clips that we have, he goes, yeah, I know, totally.
You're absolutely right.
dan friesen
I agree, but I don't agree.
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
David Duke, you are often right about everything, and I have nothing to disagree with you about, but I'm just starting a debate.
dan friesen
David Duke, I don't really agree with you, but it's just you have your words wrong.
You have your words slightly wrong.
jordan holmes
Don't say Jews, say globalists.
dan friesen
It's whack, and...
A lot of this stuff, if there was better evidence for some of the stuff...
Because it's not impossible that someone ever drank blood or something like that.
And it's not impossible that...
jordan holmes
Hey, I've had blackout weekends.
Who knows?
dan friesen
I've seen Batman Begins.
I know that there's...
jordan holmes
There is, of course...
What's his fucking face?
dan friesen
The Scarecrow.
There's a possibility that someone would poison a water supply.
Absolutely.
Those sorts of things are conceivably possible, but you have to have better...
It has to be more real or else you're operating off these archaic beliefs that are just bigotry.
So congratulations Alex Jones.
Congratulations Carrie Cassidy.
You guys live in a world that's been shaped by lies from the 1400s.
Congratulations.
unidentified
How is it that humans are still so shitty at being people?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Like, we're so bad at it.
dan friesen
You know, there are a lot of people who aren't shitty at being humans, and those are the people who donate to our show.
I'd like to thank everyone who's donated, and we'll give specific policy wonk shout-outs on the next episode.
But if you'd like to become a policy wonk, you can do that.
You can support the show by going to knowledgefight.com, which is our website, and clicking the support the show button.
jordan holmes
And we will be putting that 1991 dunk contest behind the paywall on the website.
It's under the special content banner.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
It's the truth.
jordan holmes
Nobody knows.
Nobody knows this.
This has been a years-long cover-up.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
By the Raptors.
jordan holmes
By the Raptors.
dan friesen
The Toronto Raptors.
jordan holmes
Goddammit, you got there first.
unidentified
Fuck you.
dan friesen
I know a little bit about basketball.
You can also follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.
jordan holmes
Look us up on Facebook.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
You're doing it now.
jordan holmes
I gotta.
You've won me over.
unidentified
Yay.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Death by attrition, my friend.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, we're on iTunes.
And please subscribe, rate, and review the show.
It does help people find us, and we would appreciate it.
jordan holmes
Please do.
dan friesen
But beyond that...
jordan holmes
You know, there's one person I know isn't a raptor.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
He's not a reptoid.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Might be a dragon moth, but I don't know about that yet.
Definitely not a mantid.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Could be.
Could be.
Could be an ethereal.
dan friesen
I don't think anything about this guy is ethereal.
unidentified
That's possible.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
But...
Beyond that, even though he's not one of those ETs, even though he's not one of those ETs that are ruining everything, even though he doesn't have any directed laser weapons, I'll tell you what, he can still go fuck himself.
So, John Rapoport, go fuck yourself!
dan friesen
May the wolf choke on your flesh.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
dan friesen
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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