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Oct. 20, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#94: October 19, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan about the October 19th episode of The Alex Jones Show. In this episode, Alex accidentally steps into a large narrative pot-hole about the timeline of the investigation into Trump's connections to Russia. Also, Alex puts on an "awkward transitioning into sales pitch" clinic.  

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alex jones
22:30
d
dan friesen
36:44
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jordan holmes
26:16
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millie weaver
02:16
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joe biden
00:40
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hey, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We are two dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
What are we drinking today, Dan?
dan friesen
Well, I am drinking Rip It Energy.
It's very American.
American flags all over this thing.
Actually, the silhouette of a soldier there, if you can see.
I believe these are 99 cents at most gas stations.
jordan holmes
You betcha.
That's the twist today.
We stand against Colin Kaepernick somehow.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, never.
Never gonna happen.
dan friesen
No.
But what do you got?
jordan holmes
I have Arizona's very sugary grape aid.
dan friesen
Super sugary.
jordan holmes
Super sugary.
dan friesen
That's three servings with my dude.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
That's a lot.
jordan holmes
Let me tell you something.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Tastes delicious.
dan friesen
I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
There we go.
jordan holmes
That's it.
dan friesen
So, Jordan's good to be back together.
That's why I played Wu-Tang's Reunited right before the show.
jordan holmes
I know.
I heard it.
unidentified
I heard it.
jordan holmes
I was there.
dan friesen
We got some big business to go over today.
We got some interesting breaks in the world.
Alex has some real stupid things he says.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
But also, he made what I'm going to call a critical error.
He made a very big fuck-up, and I am going to lay out exactly what he did wrong.
jordan holmes
All right, he sounds good.
dan friesen
Actually, he made two really big fuck-ups.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
And one is much more important than the other.
jordan holmes
Like Schwarber when he dropped that ball in left field and then kicked it into the...
Wait, what?
dan friesen
Come on with your Cubs, shit.
jordan holmes
Sorry, sorry!
dan friesen
I would like to get your mind off the Cubs and how they're losing right now.
jordan holmes
They are losing right now.
dan friesen
And I will do that with an out-of-context drop from Alex Jones.
alex jones
Fine!
jordan holmes
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
I'm sorry!
jordan holmes
I just can't deal with, fine!
And then a long-ass pause without being like, yeah, that's an excellent out-of-context drop.
dan friesen
From the top.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Fine!
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
There we go.
There we go.
dan friesen
So, that one's just for me.
That one's very out-of-context.
But, uh, so...
Alex, today, we're going over, on this episode, we're going to be going over the October 19th episode of the Alex Jones program with a couple of pieces of evidence from other days to use as a comparison.
Today's show, I want to say one thing.
He's really pushing really hard about his show for tomorrow, for Friday.
jordan holmes
Alright, well that's not great.
dan friesen
He has some guests who are exposing pedophiles in Hollywood.
They may or may not have made a documentary that has nothing to do with Sawman Sawyer.
jordan holmes
Disappointing.
dan friesen
But the way Alex is ramping it up, I'm pretty sure he is about to get sued.
He is working himself into a PR stunt lawsuit.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Like, he's going to say something he shouldn't in this interview.
Of course.
Oh, man.
Jerry Bruckheimer is going to sue the shit out of you, Alex.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
Something like that is going to happen.
I smell it.
jordan holmes
Either that or the entire religion of Scientology is going to come down on him hard.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Wouldn't that be a wild turn of events?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I don't know who I'm rooting for in that situation.
dan friesen
I hate you both.
I hope you destroy each other.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I hope the courtroom accidentally lights on fire.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So a lot of this episode is him pimping tomorrow's show.
There's a good bit of that.
We don't really have any of that retained in here.
But we do have a return appearance from Rainbow Snatch herself.
Millie Weaver.
jordan holmes
Now I'm excited.
As Rainbow Snatch or just as Millie Weaver?
No, as herself.
Do you think they're ever going to do Rainbow Snatch again?
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
I think they got enough feedback on that where they're like, ooh, this is bad.
Neither of us have improv training.
dan friesen
The reviews and the trade papers were scathing.
Not good.
jordan holmes
Not good.
Hollywood Reporter did not give it two thumbs up.
dan friesen
The opposite of Hamilton was Rainbow Snatch.
So let's start off the show how Alex starts off.
This is some nonsense.
alex jones
Fine!
It's the broadcasts that I know are particularly historical and important where I really attempt before we go live to just calm down and slow down before I turn into the Tasmanian devil from Texas.
jordan holmes
The Tasmanian devil.
alex jones
Anybody that's been listening for even a decade or 20 years knows I can be very negative.
But people also know that I'm not going to tell you that we're winning if we're not winning.
I'm not going to tell you that we're having spectacular victories by the day against the globalists unless it's really happening.
Now, that's shit.
I got a really good feeling and I got a really bad feeling.
Best of times, worst of times.
The world's a paradox.
Because the globalists are going to strike back and they're going to strike back hard and they've been striking back.
But nevertheless, they are being...
Routed.
And I'm going to tell you who is the main icebreaker going through their lies.
His name is Donald John Trump.
He's from New York City.
jordan holmes
He seems like a good icebreaker in the party.
dan friesen
He'd be the best.
alex jones
And I just love the fact that the globalists took over one of the most American cities, pure Americana, and turned into a globalist command base.
But that's the way God works.
That city of corrupt globalism is now being retaken.
Out of that Babylon comes a great man of change and courage who is the catalyst for devastating victories right now.
I mean, Trump is leveling the playing field.
He is doing two-way streets with China.
He's taking care of American workers, our veterans.
It's incredible.
But everything Trump's strong on, they try to make his weakness.
That's why he tries to get charities to give $25,000 to $50,000 to every veteran that's killed in combat, every active duty soldier, sailor, marine, member of the Air Force.
And that's why he tries to personally visit them or give them multiple phone calls.
And because that's one of his big strengths, that he personally gives money or gets a charity to give money.
jordan holmes
Just lie about that directly.
alex jones
They make it as weakness.
That's what this whole scandal is with the few dead soldiers that happen to have Democrat Party mothers.
unidentified
See, that's the problem.
dan friesen
That's the problem.
You're listening to these soldiers that have Democrat Party mothers.
jordan holmes
Fucking fuck.
Fuck this shit.
Fuck this shit.
I can't believe...
How does he go...
One, multiple is wildly off.
dan friesen
You are not ready for the rest of this show.
jordan holmes
I'm not ready for this shit.
That's directly...
The stories that he's referencing are the fact that he called one soldier and was a complete dick to them by all reports.
He sees how multiple people were there, promised $25,000 to them, never paid it.
All of this shit, he's like, no, those are his strikes.
What the fuck are you talking about?
dan friesen
Well, he makes great deals, and that's why people make fun of all the bad deals he's made.
Right.
jordan holmes
Because he's made zero great deals, and he's tried to destroy every...
dan friesen
What you don't understand is you gotta get into the headspace of an Alex Jones right about now.
And that is...
You may not be aware of this.
Sean Hannity has been pimping real hard how he's got documents, and he's got a big scoop about Hillary.
And it's mostly this uranium stuff.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
It's mostly that.
There's a new twist in it that it turns out that the FBI was doing an investigation concurrently, but not about Hillary.
It was about a trucking firm that was getting no-bid contracts and had been basically compromised by Russians.
So they were investigating that, and Alex is turning it into a thing where they're connected, and all of it leads to Hillary.
jordan holmes
Of course, yeah.
These guys are really pathetic.
dan friesen
Alex is super bitter and petty about the fact that Sean Hannity is getting a lot of attention about it.
And so he is in this place where he's like, no one's paying attention to me.
He's struggling with it.
And at the same time, because of all this, all of this stuff amounts to a hill of beans.
But he's got to use it as an excuse for why there are questions about Trump and Russia.
He has to use this as a way to deflect from the Russia investigation about Trump that has much more real things involved in it.
jordan holmes
Once again, our president committed treason.
dan friesen
But see, the thing is, what he's doing is using this weak shit in order to deflect from the other shit that's coming at him.
In the same way that he flips...
A lie to deflect from the truth of these attacks that you were screaming about, Trump.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He's in that mode.
He's in that mode hard right now.
jordan holmes
So it's more like he is straight up lying about this.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
It's like a sleight of hand thing.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Where he straight up lies about this to the point where you have to be like, you're lying so that you don't look over at all the shit that he's not talking about.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So rather than, no, that's smart.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's evil and stupid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But it is tactically a smart idea.
I will accept that.
dan friesen
A lot of that is what we come down to over and over again, is just that what he is is running distraction.
He's the red flag.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Which, as if we needed distraction, everything is fucking bananas.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So let's jump into this.
He gets into the...
Hannity-related Russia stuff pretty early.
And so let's jump into it.
This first clip is about Mueller.
And at the end, he ends up basically accusing all Democrats of working for Russia.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
alex jones
I knew that Robert Mueller had delivered uranium in 2015 to the Russians illegally for Hillary.
dan friesen
I knew that they had gotten hundreds of millions of dollars Real quick, just about that, because some people may not know what the details of that situation were.
Robert Mueller delivered a sample of highly enriched uranium confiscated from smugglers in the country of Georgia to Russian authorities for forensic examination back in 2009.
He did so at the request of the Russian government and with the blessing of American law enforcement.
So he did do it, but there's nothing suspicious about it.
jordan holmes
So Alex is saying, see what confused me was Alex said, I knew about it in 2015.
And I was like...
He did it in 2015?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because he wasn't the fucking FBI director in 2015.
dan friesen
No.
But yeah, so he did that in 2009.
It's nothing spooky, nothing nefarious at all.
It's all just, like you said, weak shit.
Weak tea nonsense.
jordan holmes
Right.
alex jones
And that Mueller has worked for via his law firm.
I knew that Comey was his minion.
I knew that...
Mueller basically is still the head of the FBI to a great extent and put major stay-behind networks in management positions who were basically part of the Clinton Foundation crime machine.
And we had guest after guest on covering all of that information.
dan friesen
Liars.
alex jones
But now to see it in the House and Senate Judiciary Committees.
To now see the Attorney General say Hillary's being criminally investigated.
To now see the lawyer for FBI operatives and FBI informants who were in Russia and in Europe and in D.C. and in New York witnessing the Democrats with photos and documents and videos.
Of them sitting around, you know, like all the famous FBI videos you've seen where it's in the briefcase and they're sitting around doing arms deals?
Same thing!
High-level Democrats on video.
That's the big breaking news on Infowars.com right now from Dr. Corsi.
dan friesen
I tried to find this article.
I can't find it.
I don't know what he's talking about.
I tried to look for it.
It's nowhere.
jordan holmes
Well, probably because it's...
Not just untrue for their standards, but also legally actionable.
If it was written, that is almost certainly something that you can sue for libel.
dan friesen
I would assume so, especially if you somehow doctor briefcase footage.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I have to reserve judgment until I can find this mysterious article.
I did go to InfoWars, though, and I want to give you a little bit of a glimpse into what's hot news over there today.
They have the Top Stories bar over on the side.
Number one top story, saber-toothed cats mingled with modern humans.
Big news.
jordan holmes
So, okay.
dan friesen
Now you think, because it's in Four Wars, you think that that means that their genes were spliced.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what I think is going on.
dan friesen
No, no.
jordan holmes
So what they're saying is about 30,000 years ago, saber-toothed...
Tigers were just hanging out with people?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a link to a National Geographic article.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then in the top stories bar, we have a total of seven stories, and two of them are about things that Putin has said, public statements that he's made, just reinforcing Putin's narratives about the world.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
If U.S. develops new nuclear weapons, Russia will too.
And the other one is Putin says Hillary is behind Russian collusion hysteria and elites disrespect Trump voters.
unidentified
Ah!
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
Maybe it's not that Trump voters have zero respect and we should not respect them.
Right.
They are deserving of no respect.
dan friesen
Well, especially the ones who are into Infowars.
If there is a subsection of Trump voters who don't like Alex, I'd be interested in meeting them.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because then I'd give them a chance.
Right, right, right.
So, I told you before the show that I think I'd...
Stumbled into something big.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, that hand gesture tells me you had something.
jordan holmes
I was just thinking about his angle on this, and apparently the new angle that the GOP is going to go for is instead of ignoring the Russia thing and saying that there's no story, so we're not going to comment on it, they realize now that's not going to stop happening.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
So what they're going to do then is deflect towards name-calling, being like, oh, you say we're Russian operatives?
You're the Russian operative!
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
So that is...
So to me, what's going on right now is clearly everybody knows Trump committed treason.
Nobody wants to deal with it because that would be fucking...
What would happen?
dan friesen
It's a big mess to clean up.
jordan holmes
We would have to, first of all, hang Trump.
By the neck until dead on the National Square from the Washington Monument.
dan friesen
I think that's on paper somewhere.
jordan holmes
That's my advice.
I think that's the law.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Then we'd have to go after Sessions.
Sessions was there.
We have to go after Flynn.
Well, those guys are already going down for sure.
dan friesen
Most likely.
jordan holmes
There's no repercussions for taking those guys down.
dan friesen
And then, quite frankly, Alex.
jordan holmes
And then Mike Pence for sure.
dan friesen
Mike Pence.
jordan holmes
He's got to die.
Hopefully he'll be...
One, outed as being secretly gay first.
dan friesen
Come on now.
Don't disparage the gays like that.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
That game.
I don't like that game.
Like, hey, this monstrous person is secretly gay just because he probably is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
Well, that's the thing.
You know, a lot.
A lot of the most virulent anti-gay people eventually are like, yeah, well, it's because I'm gay.
dan friesen
I get that, but I think that that's thrown around as a negative sometimes.
And I know you weren't doing that, but I was just...
Maybe I'm being oversensitive.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Be that as it may.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you're a virulent homophobe that wants to have sex with men while at the same time taking away...
Your own rights to do so.
dan friesen
Your own hypothetical rights.
jordan holmes
I feel like you lose a lot of negative aspects to it.
dan friesen
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
jordan holmes
Yes, now we can get back to that.
dan friesen
This is important.
I believe that on our episode that we put out today, on Thursday, we discussed how, by looking back at December of 2015, we were able to fairly accurately...
Depict and determine that Steve Pachanek and Roger Stone were working together to manipulate Alex to join Team Trump.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And there was a concerted effort going on at that point.
jordan holmes
They colluded to do so.
dan friesen
Now, I want to build on that a little bit in these next two clips.
Because I think Alex accidentally said something over the last three days that he might regret.
He might regret because I think he fucked up the timeline.
Because he's getting really jealous about Sean Hannity's attention.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he's speaking a little bit too extemporaneously.
He's being a little bit too loose.
jordan holmes
As is his want.
dan friesen
Yes.
So here is the first clip.
This is from the Wednesday show.
I'm sorry, the Tuesday show.
From the 17th of this week in 2017.
This is him...
Expressing a bit of pettiness about the fact that he's not getting enough credit for the Russia stories and what have you.
But keep in mind, pay attention closely to some of the details about timeline in here because they are very important.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Now let's get to the rest of the story on Russiagate.
And the reason I'm going to be clear about who really broke this first and where is not about credit.
It's about understanding the media cover-up and why Hillary and others went after Trump for what they themselves had done.
Here's the article up on Infowars.com.
TikTok, huge story on Hillary, Russia, set to drop.
Tonight, Hannity teases bombshell expose.
I want to be clear, Hannity has a lot of great investigative journalism, has the ear of the president like no one else in media.
jordan holmes
That's probably true.
alex jones
Does a great job, has a lot of courage.
I don't want to sit here and say this is not new news to put Hannity down.
Everybody should watch tonight.
Again, I hope 300 million people tune in.
Instead of his customary four or five million, that's the record show on cable.
But we broke this with Roger Stone.
Early 2016, we hammered it.
We did hundreds of shows, hundreds of articles, to where I was asking Roger to stop writing articles about it.
I said, I know the Russia thing's bull, but why are we obsessing on it?
dan friesen
So, in that clip, there's a lot of nonsense trying to cuck out the audience size of Sean Hannity.
jordan holmes
Four or five million is regular audience.
dan friesen
But Alex fucked up.
He's saying that Hillary Clinton...
And all of these people started accusing Trump of colluding with Russia because secretly they knew they were guilty of it, so they were trying to get ahead of it.
He fucked up because he said in January, or in the next clip he says January, but at the beginning of 2016, me and Roger Stone started pushing this really hard, the idea of Hillary colluding with Russia.
What was happening in the world at the beginning of 2016?
Do you remember?
jordan holmes
Dude, at this point, I can't fucking handle the barrage of bullshit, so I don't remember much.
dan friesen
In October of 2015, in October 28th of 2015, Trump signed that letter of intent to build the Moscow Trump Tower.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So that was at the end of 2015.
At that point, also, Flynn...
In December of 2015, gave that speech in Moscow at the RT convention where he sat with Putin and Jill Stein and some other folks.
Also, at that point, he was working for Erdogan.
So, we get to January of 2016.
Flynn isn't even an advisor formally for Trump at this point.
Manafort isn't even his campaign manager yet in January of 2016.
The hacks hadn't even happened.
No one was saying...
jordan holmes
Yeah, the DNC hacks didn't happen until what?
August?
dan friesen
At least.
Yeah.
Paul Manafort became the campaign manager in March.
On March 29th, he was announced as the campaign convention manager.
April 27th was when he gave that meeting at the Mayflower Hotel, that speech, that Kislyak was at when he met with all the people that didn't come out until much later.
June 3rd is when Donald Trump Jr. had that meeting with the Russian lawyer that got set up.
Or I'm sorry, that was a little bit later in June or what have you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, how is he not in jail yet?
dan friesen
June 14th is when the Washington Post reported that hackers had gained access to the DNC servers.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that had not even happened at that point.
jordan holmes
So what you're saying is they were trying to get out in front of the Russia story because they knew it was already happening.
dan friesen
And Alex...
Ian, complaining about what he's accusing Hillary of, has given away his own tactics.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He has revealed that, like, oh, of course you would accuse the other person of doing the thing you're doing in order to deflect from what you're doing.
That implies to me heavily that he knows, and Roger Stone knows, that that's what they were doing.
jordan holmes
And when did he say that he was debriefed by Russian intelligence?
dan friesen
That was earlier.
jordan holmes
That was December 2015.
dan friesen
I think it was November.
jordan holmes
Well, whatever.
dan friesen
November, December.
jordan holmes
The point being, though...
dan friesen
But he doesn't have a date on when it happened.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He just admitted to it.
unidentified
That's true.
dan friesen
It could have been years before.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
June 22nd of 2016 is when WikiLeaks released the DNC emails.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
When people started to get like, oh boy.
July 25th, later that week, is when the FBI confirmed that they were having an investigation into it.
And at that point...
Trump tweeted that the joke in town is that Russia did it.
That's when people started to be like, oh boy.
He gives a press conference and claims he's never spoken to Putin, even though in 2013 he said they have a great relationship.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I mean, it just goes on from there.
August 8th of 2016 is when Roger Stone publicly admitted that he had communicated, whether it was through a back channel or whatever, with Julian Assange.
A little bit later...
August 21st is when Stone said, trust me, Podesta's time will soon be in the barrel.
It will come soon.
In October, Stone is tweeting that he has, you know, on Wednesday, Hillary is done.
Hashtag WikiLeaks.
So, like, all this stuff that made people concerned and when the Russia talk was really bubbling up was not the beginning of 2016.
jordan holmes
No, it was right near the actual fucking vote.
dan friesen
Or at least towards the middle.
You know, it was towards the late summer at best is when a lot of those concerns started to come to the forefront.
And the fact that Alex Jones is saying, we were writing copious articles about them.
In January, at the beginning of 2016, to the point where he's like, Roger, why are we talking about this so much?
It implies to me that Roger had a game plan, and Alex was not entirely clear what it is.
But now he knows, and he subconsciously let it slip.
jordan holmes
I don't necessarily think that he didn't know...
I don't think he at all said to Roger, why are we writing about this so much?
I think that was just him...
You know, being like, look at how many articles we wrote that I have to pretend.
dan friesen
You're right.
That's more the pettiness.
That's more him being like, you know, hey, we wrote about this all the time.
Fuck you, Hannity.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
And you're three million people.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
We have 50 million.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So here's the next clip, and this one's a little bit long, but it's worth it for what happens at the end.
And it confirms that what he's talking about is...
Straight up January.
Not just the beginning of the year.
Because if you say the beginning of the year, you could say March.
But even in March, there wasn't.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
alex jones
And now you know why.
Starting last January, Roger Stone was doing...
No exaggeration, because he was coming and visiting us here.
He would do 15, 20 interviews a day.
You couldn't go to dinner with him.
He'd duck out and do 10-minute interviews out in the parking lot of a steakhouse.
Then he'd take a call from the presidential candidate at the time.
It was pretty amazing.
Here, talk to Trump.
But what's incredible is...
dan friesen
So there, he even makes it clear.
I mean, he already clarified that he's talking about 2016.
But in the context of this clip, he could be saying January of 2017, but he said candidate.
He wasn't a candidate in 2017.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, absolutely not.
dan friesen
So he's obviously talking about January of 2016.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
His timeline doesn't make sense.
jordan holmes
And if Stone has a very...
If Stone is talking to Trump all the time in January of 2016, while on this whole Russia narrative, Stone obviously knows something.
And he's obviously working.
Stone is obviously part of that whole thing.
He's working directly for Putin at this point in time.
unidentified
So, we're fucked!
alex jones
...is that that's when they went, Roger Stone's a Russian agent, even though in the 80s...
Russians tried to contact him about secrets, and he helped the FBI round up a bunch of Russians and U.S. citizens who were indicted and convicted.
Roger Stone came up under Nixon, the famous anti-communist, and the Red Scare, and Senator McCarthy.
Roger Stone was around way back then.
jordan holmes
Stone was on his bullshit from the beginning.
dan friesen
One of the other important things to pull out of that piece is that this is not back then.
Vladimir Putin is a different sort of leader.
They are not entirely a communist country anymore.
jordan holmes
Same thing.
Same thing.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
jordan holmes
In the 60s, Russia has stayed exactly the same since the 60s.
Everybody knows this.
It's absolutely not that...
Russia has turned into a giant billionaire kleptocracy that Stone, being on the outs of American politics after all of his time being so close to power, has finally decided, like, well, fuck it.
If you guys aren't going to give me money and power, I'm going to get it from this dude over here.
dan friesen
You make a compelling argument.
I was just going to say that maybe he was against the people who came before Putin, and now he kind of likes this strong guy.
jordan holmes
No, I think it's absolutely he felt neglected, and they gave him the chance to feel powerful again.
And he's really addicted to power, influence, and attention.
dan friesen
I wouldn't be surprised.
jordan holmes
That's what Stone is.
He's a fucking bullshitter.
dan friesen
Yeah, anyway.
alex jones
He's been doing this since he was 18 years old.
The opposite of a communist.
So what do you do when an old red hunter...
Is on your Democratic Party butt.
What do you do?
What do you do when a red hunter is on your tail?
The bane of the Democratic Party, since 1917, the Republicans have been on them for working with communists and working with the Russians.
What are you going to do?
jordan holmes
Red Dawn?
alex jones
When people like Vice President Richard Nixon are on your tail.
And don't forget, he was the Vice President for Eisenhower.
Then came back, became President.
What are you going to do?
When Nixon's later best friend, Roger Stone, the red hunter, is on your butt.
Roger Stone's a red!
Everybody's a red!
Remember when they started saying on television, Tucker Carlson, when he doubted the official fake story about Russiagate?
dan friesen
No.
alex jones
They said to Tucker Carlson, you better watch it.
You're working for the Kremlin.
You're on his payroll.
No.
And of course, if you know anything about Tucker Carlson's blue-blood East Coast family, the Patriots, his dad was the head of Voice of America.
You don't just think he was in the CIA, do you?
And the rest of his family.
And Tucker Carlson said, you better watch it right there.
And that's why they started saying, I'm a Russian agent.
Remember Rand Paul?
We ought to get all these clips together.
Rand Paul!
Oh, McCain said on the floor of the Senate is a Russian agent being paid by Vladimir Putin.
Total defamation.
jordan holmes
Total slander, Rand Paul?
dan friesen
Yeah, he did vibrate a little bit.
unidentified
Rand Paul!
dan friesen
He was trying to summon him to studio.
But, I mean, if anyone has forgotten, the reason that John McCain made that comment is because Rand Paul voted, I think he was the only person who voted against Montenegro being accepted into the...
The EU?
Really?
Yeah, I believe so.
jordan holmes
Did not know that.
dan friesen
Yeah, he was blocking the vote for Montenegro to be allowed in, and that was something that Putin was very strongly in favor of, and the rest of the world was, they wanted them to be accepted in.
That's why, he didn't say that he's working for Putin, he said he's effectively an agent of Putin at this point.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex is misrepresenting that, too, as he's doing all of this.
jordan holmes
As opposed to being literally an agent of Putin at this point, which is what Alex Jones has been for the past two years.
dan friesen
It appears.
alex jones
Total desperate libel.
And if you wonder why they're so desperate, ladies and gentlemen, it's because...
John McCain, it turned out, was involved with banks on the Russian payroll.
And it turns out Hillary and both Podesta brothers and a bunch of Democratic Party and Dr. Jerome Corsi's article on Infowars.com were in banks and in brokerage firms and in energy companies and in military companies.
And Hillary was the head of the State Department for most of those eight years, and she was transferring everything out of the country because she could sign waivers and claim it was legal, but she kept...
It's secret.
jordan holmes
Like what Trump is doing.
alex jones
And that's why they are in total and complete panic mode in D.C. right now.
And that's why they have the whole media brand Trump and the Republicans and all of the rest of the resistance as Russian agents.
Because it's just like in an old spy movie.
When you catch one spy, they go, no!
They're the spies!
It's them!
It's them!
dan friesen
Sounds familiar.
alex jones
With no proof.
But then when Roger started exposing it, he was going to testify, he got shot in the back with a polonium dart.
Little gelatin darts that dissolved.
But it deflected.
It cut his back a little bad in his backyard.
It hit him in his backyard.
He got real sick two days later, and they tested it.
It was polonium.
And then a few weeks later, he's going to testify.
They T-bone his car.
jordan holmes
Which he would not have been able to do if he had been placed by polonium.
alex jones
And almost kill him.
And then some armored vehicle races off.
Because they wanted to say it was all Roger Stone so that a dead man couldn't resist them and a dead man couldn't speak out.
So let me tell you something.
They've been failing on every front.
When we come back, we're going to play these clips.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's true.
alex jones
Where the lawyers for the informants and the rest of it are getting ready to testify to Congress and they are in full panic mode.
Please remember to support the broadcast.
We have a bunch of specials that are about to end.
Brain Force.
dan friesen
Love it.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
That's a great story.
I mean, it's a good story.
It doesn't match up.
jordan holmes
If anybody was going to kill Roger Stone to keep him silent, it would be the Russians.
dan friesen
Well, there's that.
jordan holmes
And if they were going to kill him, they would probably use something like polonium.
dan friesen
Which Putin has used in the past.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
But the thing is...
jordan holmes
Although, I would say that would...
Actually, they wouldn't use polonium, because then it would be too obvious.
dan friesen
It's a calling card.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's dumb.
jordan holmes
It's very dumb.
And also, he didn't get poisoned by polonium!
dan friesen
It would be a public crisis if you did.
jordan holmes
Just like Larry Nichols did not...
Run guns in Nicaragua.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You can make up that story, but it's not true.
dan friesen
The only person who's gonna believe you is Alex.
And then when Alex starts screaming about it, his listeners are gonna believe it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then you get into, like, you've crafted just a false reality for them to live in.
It's fun.
It's fucking fun.
jordan holmes
That's where they live.
dan friesen
It's really fun, I imagine.
Like, I would love it if I could believe this shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, it's one of the things that they...
So, it's really just...
I have to believe that it is all of them having a subconscious or unconscious realization that they voted for the dumbest worst president in the history of the United States.
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
And so were they to accept that, then they would have to realize, because the dumbest worst president in history embodies a lot of Republican values, if not all of them.
So if you admit that you voted for the guy who embodies all of your values and he's the dumbest, worst president, maybe you're the dumbest, worst person.
dan friesen
And you're not even president.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And you are fucking yourself over, and they just can't do that.
Like, that destroys your entire worldview.
If all of a sudden you realize that, finally, the type of Republican that I want is in the White House, and it turns out...
That is very, very, very bad.
So then you have to reevaluate yourself, and most people, if not all people, have such a hard time doing that, that they'll retreat into a fantasy world.
dan friesen
It's very difficult to just be like, ah, man, we were wrong.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But you should.
jordan holmes
Especially if you've lived your whole life by that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
Finally, you get the chance to figure out what it would be like if you were in power.
And the answer is, everyone's going to die.
dan friesen
It's not a great outcome.
jordan holmes
It's not a great outcome.
I don't think that would be something that warms your heart in the middle of the night.
So instead, you make up a narrative of, you know, everything that I...
It's very simple.
Like, what they're doing is they're just projecting all of their hatred for Trump onto Hillary or whomever.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All of the things that they hate that Trump is doing, just like what Alex is doing right now, everything he hates about Trump, he is just moving over.
You know, just like a game of fucking...
dan friesen
Move it on over.
jordan holmes
Guess who?
dan friesen
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
Move it on over.
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I mean, you kind of have to.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
That's how you retain the idea that you're the good guy when you're not.
So anyway, let's get to this next clip.
Because in that last one, he had some clear lies that Roger Stone told him about...
Roger himself.
And Alex just believes it, because it's like, oh yeah, my hero guy.
He's great.
And in this next clip, we learn a little bit about a guy named Tosh Plumlee, who's another whistleblower that Alex has on.
jordan holmes
He's actually Tosh 2.1.
dan friesen
2. Plumlee.
He has some details here that I think aren't true.
Let's just see what your sense of it is.
alex jones
Hillary, as Secretary of State, Had the power to sign secret orders circumventing federal law because of the previous law that you could ship prohibited weapons or materials to states where it was prohibited or to groups where it was prohibited if she signed the letters.
So you would give money as a terrorist group or a foreign government or a corporation to the Clinton Foundation, we have the emails, then they within usually a few days...
jordan holmes
None of them say that, but we have them.
alex jones
Usually it was about a million dollars or more.
Just to meet with Hillary was a couple hundred thousand.
Or to have her be given your email or request.
So first you give a couple hundred thousand just to have her agree to talk to you.
Then you give a million asking for what you want, and almost always you got it.
Didn't matter if it was anti-tank missiles, anti-aircraft missiles, didn't matter what it was.
And if you paid enough, they would have it.
Then the orders of the State Department, which controls the Pentagon to a great extent, and the CIA, they would then deliver that to you on a C-130.
And Tosh Plumlee took parts in those flights.
And he risked his life to tell you.
Now, he only knew part of it.
Very, very famous, by the way.
He was in the Bay of Pigs.
But before that, he was flying arms to Fidel Castro.
This is in congressional hearings.
He was in the Frank Church Committee.
He was in the Iran-Contra Committee.
You say, well, how was he still in the CIA?
Well, there's dark hats and white hats.
And because he's a whistleblower, he was protected.
unidentified
And until three years ago, he was flying flights.
alex jones
I mean, he used to come on the show.
Leading groups of C-130s as the head, you know, as Commodore of the skies, 15 C-130s lined up behind him, about to fly to wherever.
He'd say, hold on, Alex, I got to tell him to wait 10 minutes.
I'm turning the engines off.
I got my time zones.
And then, all right, I got 10, 15 minutes for you.
I mean, there's interviews where he's on the tarmac flying whatever it is.
Yeah.
unidentified
Then he should really focus on flying.
alex jones
High-impact kinetic weapons to the jihadis, and nobody likes it.
I'm not going to say I'm doing it, but I've done it.
I'm onboarding aircraft right now, and we're really pissed about this, Alex.
And I don't care if they kill me, I'm going to tell you.
We need him on now, now, now, now, now, now.
I only say that because busy producers are great, but I've kind of lately been running around saying Tosh Plumlee, Tosh Plumlee, because let me tell you, he is the one that broke it all, and we stuck our necks out.
And now everything you're hearing about Hillary...
And exporting things to the State Department and those waivers, that is directly from the CIA and the patriots in the CIA to Tosh Plumlee.
They said, you're willing to get killed?
You go ahead and you do it.
dan friesen
Right.
alex jones
But that is, I'm so proud of the fact he's a Texan.
So there you go.
Now, briefly, we're ending specials in the next few days.
unidentified
Oh boy.
God damn it!
jordan holmes
Damn it, Dan!
dan friesen
He's on a sales chair on this episode.
unidentified
You love it.
jordan holmes
You love it.
dan friesen
It's so great.
jordan holmes
That's so fantastic.
dan friesen
So that story...
jordan holmes
God damn it, am I proud he's a Texan.
We're going to be ending specials here pretty soon, guys.
Jesus, dude.
dan friesen
I mean, it can't be true.
A guy who's running guns and takes a little bit of time.
He's running heavy munitions.
High kinetic weapons to jihadis.
Takes a little time out to call Alex Jones.
Ring-a-ling.
Oh, hey, I'm selling terrorist weapons.
jordan holmes
While he's on the tarmac, the engine's running.
He's about to fly.
Look.
dan friesen
Let me power this baby down.
jordan holmes
I can't text and drive.
You should not be allowed to call Alex Jones and fly.
I think that's just a fact.
dan friesen
It just, it makes me think of all the, like, if you ever listen to Coast to Coast AM, they have a lot of callers who are like, there's a ghost in my house!
Or stuff like that.
Or, like, there was a famous call with Art Bell where this guy was like, I'm gonna fly into Area 51. And he faked, like, the call going out.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
There's those, like, hoaxes and stuff that happen like that.
And Tosh Plumlee is clearly doing some of that shit to Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or just embellishment.
jordan holmes
Or he's just a fucking lunatic.
Alex's description of him saying is like, we run guns to the jihadis.
I'm not going to say I'm doing it.
I've done it.
And I'm...
Right now doing it.
Yeah, exactly.
What are you fucking doing?
dan friesen
Tosh, that sounds like your mouth.
Nope.
Specialized engine.
Specialized white hat CIA engine.
jordan holmes
It's a C-130.
We're white hats.
Or dark hats.
dan friesen
So in this next clip.
jordan holmes
I think he was just hungry.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
He's like, I don't know if I want a breast or a leg.
I don't know what I'm going to do here.
dan friesen
Give me a mixed bag.
jordan holmes
Give me a hat first.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex reveals that he believes that Donald Trump believes that Russia, our military, and Assad made that deal.
jordan holmes
Yes, of course.
dan friesen
He believes that Trump believes that.
jordan holmes
Frankly?
I buy that.
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
It's entirely possible that Trump believes all kinds of fanciful things.
dan friesen
True.
If that is true.
jordan holmes
I mean, if he believes that he actually had a...
If he believes that he was good at calling the widows or the parents of dead...
Fallen soldiers.
If he believes that he had a great phone call, he can believe fucking anything.
He's a lunatic, malignant, narcissist, psychopath.
And he will not...
He believes everything he says.
dan friesen
Fair.
But listen to this.
jordan holmes
Because he's a fucking lunatic.
dan friesen
Listen to this.
jordan holmes
We're all gonna die.
alex jones
And our military, and good people in the deep state, said no to that plan.
And four and a half years ago, General Dempsey...
Went and met with Obama and said, we are not going to have a military strike from the air on Syria.
We're going to work with the Russians to contain the civil war and end it.
And then Assad will step down after elections in the future when the war is over.
jordan holmes
And bomb hospitals.
alex jones
Now you see Trump putting pressure on Iran saying, we made a deal with you and the Russians four and a half years ago.
Our military did, bypassing Obama.
You're now going to pull out of there and we're going to have elections and Assad's going to step down.
We're going to put sanctions on you.
And if you want to attack our troops in Syria, that's what all this really is, we're going to go to war with you.
We made a deal with you.
The American people and the folks that put Trump in from the good side of the deep state, you're going to follow that agreement.
No more backstabbing.
dan friesen
No more weasels.
jordan holmes
So...
unidentified
Did he just say that the good people from the deep state put Trump in?
dan friesen
That's what he likes to believe.
jordan holmes
I feel like he's...
Okay.
dan friesen
But do you know why?
jordan holmes
I don't think that's a good thing.
dan friesen
Do you know why he believes all this shit?
Lies that Steve Pchenik told him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
And now he can't talk to Steve Pchenik anymore because he said that Las Vegas attack was fake.
He's like, oh yes, Pchenik, he's saying that Las Vegas...
jordan holmes
Pchenik went one too far with his bullshit lies.
dan friesen
Alex straight up on his show in response to a caller said it's a very good likelihood that Steve Pchenik is still working for the CIA and is pulling a PSYOP on InfoWars, which we called a long time ago.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course he did.
dan friesen
He finally gets it because of the Las Vegas' fake thing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And, like, he doesn't sit down to question, like, what else has Steve Pachenik told me?
jordan holmes
Well, if you're talking about that...
dan friesen
Wait, wait, Robert David Steele told me about Mars bases.
What else has he lied to me about?
jordan holmes
He doesn't do that second step.
dan friesen
It's crazy.
jordan holmes
Why would he?
dan friesen
Because it's very important.
jordan holmes
But with Las Vegas, he can see that Steve Pachenik is lying.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
With Syria, it's a magic lie.
It's a magical thing.
Like, hey, our deep state made it.
Extrajudicial deal with Russia's deep state to make sure that Assad steps down?
dan friesen
And one of the generals came to Obama and said, we did this behind your back, you son of a bitch.
That's called treason.
That's very clearly like, say whatever you want about our foreign policy.
There's a lot of problems.
But I do not...
Support generals getting out of the chain of command and making deals with hostile actors.
jordan holmes
Probably not good.
dan friesen
That's so bad.
jordan holmes
For the survival of the Union, I feel like treason at the highest level of the military is not a great way to go.
dan friesen
That's so bad.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, thankfully it's not real, but that's so bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
The weirdest part is that currently Brazil is about to have, like, their military generals actually...
Are talking about a military coup because Tamer is the most corrupt leader in the world right now.
dan friesen
He's pretty bad.
unidentified
Which is a true accomplishment.
dan friesen
It's a deep bench.
Oh, yeah, man.
Incredible.
There's a lot of people with warning track power.
Right.
jordan holmes
The Cubs are down by a lot.
dan friesen
Sorry about that.
jordan holmes
An insane number.
No, it's...
It is one of those things, though, where you could see that being a flashpoint there.
If there is a military coup in Brazil, because the president is the single most corrupt president on the planet, and we have, I would say, number three.
Because I would go with Tamer, Putin, and then Trump.
dan friesen
I'd put Trump behind Duterte.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
No, Duterte isn't corrupt.
He's murdering people.
Yeah, that's not corruption.
dan friesen
It implies.
jordan holmes
No, I'm sure there is some, but I think he's just bloodthirsty.
dan friesen
It implies rank corruption.
jordan holmes
Right.
But the military's on his team there.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
So I would go, let's see, rank your favorite corrupt world leader.
dan friesen
We don't have time.
jordan holmes
I just want to, like...
dan friesen
I'll sign off on whatever your rankings are.
jordan holmes
All right, fine.
I just want some good old bunga bunga parties back.
dan friesen
Alright, fine.
I don't know what you're getting at.
jordan holmes
Oh, you don't remember Berlusconi?
dan friesen
I don't remember.
Oh, the whore parties?
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
That was the kind of corruption that I can get behind.
dan friesen
That's tasty corruption.
jordan holmes
That's just an ultra-rich plutocrat having fun.
dan friesen
Right, right.
I mean, it's quaint at this point.
jordan holmes
Those were the days.
dan friesen
So, I have a long clip here.
We can listen to it or we can skip.
I'm going to give you the option.
alex jones
Well, we got to do it.
dan friesen
Okay.
It's about Alex getting mad at Joe Biden and then losing it in a really gross impression.
jordan holmes
Okay, now I'm in.
dan friesen
Here we go.
joe biden
When someone would yell at a State of the Union liar.
dan friesen
Real quick, Alex has set up this clip by saying that Joe Biden, in a speech, has indicated that he has a stay-behind network of...
You know, treasonous actors within the government.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And in this quote, in this clip he's playing, it's Joe Biden telling them, stay.
Hang tight, guys.
unidentified
Hang tight.
dan friesen
We've got to kill Trump.
That sort of thing.
jordan holmes
That's going to be fun at our next State of the Union, which hopefully we'll make it to.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
But that Obama did not lie, and yet was called a liar by a fucking idiot.
unidentified
You lie!
jordan holmes
Right?
Our president now...
Lies.
dan friesen
Quite a bit.
jordan holmes
Constantly.
I don't think he's told the truth on anything, ever.
Like, name one thing he said that's accurate other than, my name is President Trump.
dan friesen
He has great words.
jordan holmes
Even then, his name isn't President.
dan friesen
No, that's true.
It's a title.
Anyway, let's get to the clip.
joe biden
When someone would yell at a State of the Union liar.
alex jones
Liar.
unidentified
These are basic norms.
joe biden
There's a reason why we have certain basic social norms.
alex jones
Hit pause.
They've got people shooting congressmen.
They've got democratic strategists on TV.
dan friesen
So real quick, he's saying...
jordan holmes
We have people shooting congressmen?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Is that what we do?
dan friesen
He's implying that, like, Joe Biden and those people, like, the Democrats...
jordan holmes
They conspire to have Scalise shots.
dan friesen
Yes.
Well, I mean, you know his narrative with that.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
His belief is that the gunman was trying to kill everyone on that field, because if he killed all of them, it would force...
jordan holmes
He would become a duke.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, also.
It would force a special election, and Democrats could take over the House.
But mathematically, it doesn't work, because even if all of them were killed and replaced with Democrats, the Republicans would still have a majority.
So it's real dumb.
jordan holmes
There we go.
alex jones
Saying hunt Republicans.
They've got Hollywood saying kill Trump.
They've got...
Phil Mudd, former Deputy Director of the CIA and Deputy Director of the FBI, put in by Comey and Mueller.
It's fun.
It's Mueller, Comey, then Mudd, saying we're going to kill the President soon.
dan friesen
Didn't say that.
alex jones
And then you say someone's saying Obamacare doesn't cover illegal aliens when it was in the bill?
And the congressman says you lie?
unidentified
And you sit up there about basic norms.
alex jones
We have basic norms.
We're going to sexualize your three-year-olds.
And teach them how to be sexually screwed up.
And we're going to ship HIV blood all over the country and give that to you and hepatitis.
And we're going to tell you 2 plus 2 equals 5. And we're going to get rid of our sovereignty and treat our veterans like crap and have the VA cut their funding off and have the...
Thomas Computer and IBM decide who gets healthcare and who doesn't.
dan friesen
He means to say Watson.
jordan holmes
Thomas Watson.
Dr. Thomas Watson.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he's done this rant before, but he's called it the Watson Computer.
He's screwing up calling it the Thomas Computer now.
jordan holmes
I like his retroactive hatred of illegal immigrants now.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Even back then, it's like, wait, it was the death panels he was screaming about, not illegal immigrants.
People weren't even talking about illegal immigrants until the presidential candidate.
Decided that that's the only thing that matters.
dan friesen
Right.
To be fair, Alex, as always, I went back, I've listened to some old episodes, and he's always had a healthy, unhealthy distrust of immigrants.
But be that as it may.
alex jones
As a death panel, they're now using Thomas Computers, the National Health Service in England.
And if you were ever a smoker, you don't get any surgery or healthcare now.
Could have been 20 years ago.
jordan holmes
I'm fine with that.
alex jones
If you're a drinker, you don't get any surgery.
But Thomas, the little Nazi IBM computer, named after a Nazi, can't make that up.
unidentified
Literally.
alex jones
With all this run by a former Nazi collaborator who the ADL gives awards to, you can't make this up.
He's going to tell us, back it up.
Let's start from the beginning again.
He's going to tell us, folks, about norms.
Here, I'm going to try to shut up during this.
Everything he says is a lie.
jordan holmes
Good fucking luck.
dan friesen
So let's pause here.
How long do you think it's going to take for him to interrupt again?
jordan holmes
Well, he sure as fuck doesn't make it all the way to social norms.
dan friesen
Like starting from the jump?
jordan holmes
Yeah, starting from the jump.
dan friesen
You think it's going to be that quick?
jordan holmes
I think it's going to be that quick.
dan friesen
Let's see.
alex jones
Let's hear from this lying sack of anti-American parasitic garbage about how we need decorum and lay down while these people bankrupt the country.
Here it is.
joe biden
When someone would yell.
unidentified
At the State of the Union.
Liar.
alex jones
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
These are basic norms.
There's a reason why.
jordan holmes
Right before basic norms.
alex jones
It took me three and a half hours to get into the inauguration because they were Democrats.
It's all on video.
Beating up men, women, and children outside and assaulting everyone.
The next day they had their George Soros Women's March led by Linda Sorcerer.
dan friesen
Co-organized.
alex jones
The admitted jihadi Islamist Palestinian activist with a family in prison in the Middle East for their activities.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, Palestinian activists with half their family in prison, generally they're on the right side.
I'm not saying that I'm anti-Israel, but they are an apartheid state and they're oppressing Palestinians to an insane degree.
dan friesen
And where I paused it, I'm not sure if he had already said it or not, he's like, they're in prison for their activities.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
What are you saying?
alex jones
What are you saying?
You could all go have your demonstration, couldn't you?
But we couldn't go see our president inaugurated because you're a bunch of thugs.
Play the clip about decorum.
Here it is.
unidentified
Norms.
They're the arbiter of how we work together.
joe biden
It's the thing that I find the most debilitating about what's going on now is the destruction of these norms and it's generating chaos.
It's generating chaos internally.
alex jones
You're trying to generate chaos.
unidentified
I don't want to see the chief of staff quit.
joe biden
I don't want to see the Secretary of Defense or the Secretary of State quit.
jordan holmes
You're a man.
unidentified
I don't want...
joe biden
All the people who are in our administration who are still there, they call me all the time.
unidentified
I say, please stay.
Please stay.
alex jones
Please, parasites.
joe biden
There has to be some competence.
alex jones
We're going to win.
unidentified
Again, it's not even about the issues.
It's about the norms.
I'll conclude by saying...
alex jones
That's enough.
dan friesen
You don't say...
alex jones
That's enough of that piece of garbage.
He's so nice.
We're being so friendly when we hit people in the head with bike locks and we call for violence and we have our surrogates say all whites are inherently evil and no white day at major colleges and while we push all this stuff and while we push war and say we're the resistance and say we're going to kill the president and have all of our minions say it.
jordan holmes
Real quick on blaming other people for pushing war after our last episode when it was like, oh.
The president is pushing for war.
dan friesen
If we're going to go to a big war with Iran, fine.
I'm not scared.
I'm not scared.
What a dick.
alex jones
And then, see, they want us to get calm again.
Just like Ted Bundy, the serial killer, would just say, it's going to be okay.
Just put the handcuffs on.
I'm not going to kill you.
Just put the gag on.
unidentified
Were you there?
alex jones
As soon as they did that, he'd say, you're so stupid.
I'm going to torture you to death for weeks, whore.
I'm going to bite chunks out of your body.
You're such a dumb idiot.
And then he's just saying, settle down.
Just get in the basement.
Just put the handcuffs on.
He's standing there in a room without a weapon.
He says, put the handcuffs on.
You're like, yes, master.
Let me put the handcuffs on and Biden's down.
jordan holmes
Come down here.
alex jones
I'm going to strap you onto this bloody gurney.
Never mind the dirty clothes and, you know, that woman hanging on a knee hook right there.
Just be normal, talk like I talk, be politically correct, submit, be passive, because I'm going to hurt you politically bad.
I'm going to do the equivalent of torture you for six months and rip your teeth out with pliers.
And I'm going to tell you how great it is while I do it.
These are the monstrous pig demons we're dealing with, and we see them, we're awake, we're not going back to sleep, jerk.
Now remember, folks, when you spread the articles, the videos, the links to newswars.com...
unidentified
Goddammit, Dan!
alex jones
Come on!
jordan holmes
Jesus!
alex jones
Isn't that great?
jordan holmes
You fucking piece of shit.
dan friesen
It's my favorite thing in the world.
Oh, yeah.
Get in the basement.
jordan holmes
He has a weird, twisted, torture sex fantasy.
dan friesen
Where he's growling.
jordan holmes
He's grunting.
He's so gross.
dan friesen
Ah, put on the handcuffs.
jordan holmes
So gross.
dan friesen
Very inpatient.
jordan holmes
That's a dream of his.
That is a dream of his.
dan friesen
Oh, and remember, please share our article.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
Jesus.
jordan holmes
Fucking Christ, is that gross.
dan friesen
Yeah, very gross.
jordan holmes
Play it again.
dan friesen
Don't worry.
There's more.
Jesus!
So, I mean, I don't need to really unpack that machine gun of misrepresentations and lies on his part.
And I think what Biden is saying is reasonable.
jordan holmes
It's weird to hear.
Like, of course he has to interrupt him so much because if you just let Biden's words play, even Alex Jones listeners are going to be like, fuck, he sounds reasonable.
dan friesen
Yeah, it seems like everybody that Trump keeps appointing keeps getting fired.
It seems like a lot of them don't know how to do their jobs.
Maybe Biden's on to something.
They would never have that thought because they think that everyone's getting fired because they're getting jammed up for fake Russia ties.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm not saying that they would think that Biden is...
I'm not saying that they want Obama administration officials to stay there.
I am saying that if you listen to what he's saying...
There is a certain amount of, one, his tone of voice is perfect.
He's a consummate politician.
He knows exactly how...
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
This is how we're supposed to do things.
You gotta know to just not be a dick.
jordan holmes
Like, all Biden was saying was, don't be a dick and be good at your job.
dan friesen
Basically.
jordan holmes
How can you be angry at that?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Alex launched into a fucking perv fantasy.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's how.
dan friesen
I told you earlier that there were two instances where Alex fucked up that we're going to talk about.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we got to the one where he admitted that he had been taking orders directly from Putin and the Kremlin.
dan friesen
And sort of sold out Roger Stone a little bit.
Absolutely.
One of our friends has assigned us, one of our wonks has assigned us a tour through history.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He gave me a date in the past, and I started listening to the wrong year.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
I found the date, but I listened to the wrong year.
And it's a good thing I did so, because on May 3rd of 2011, I found this clip.
You might be asking yourself, what happened on May 3rd, 2011?
jordan holmes
Well, that was five days before my birthday.
dan friesen
Don't worry about it.
It was the day after Obama announced that they'd killed Osama bin Laden.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
So, in this clip, Alex...
jordan holmes
I was about to say 9-11.
dan friesen
After Obama killed 9-11.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
In this clip, Alex talks about the response that he's seeing in some neoconservative thinkers and some people who were previously against Obama.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Here's this clip.
And let's see how different Alex Jones was just an eye on six years ago.
alex jones
I heard neocons on the radio going, I kind of like Obama.
I saw that photo of him launching the attack in there.
He's looking a little better to me.
I'm kind of liking government health care now.
Boy.
Because it's that tribalism when your leader, the chief says, The other tribe is coming.
We've got to get together or they're going to kill us men.
This is what every culture does.
Take our women and children to make their tribe bigger and stronger and use them as lower class slaves in their system.
We're ingrained that when we're told an enemy's coming, we're told we're under attack to get together to fight.
That's what humans do.
dan friesen
So, Alex Jones just explained the tendency in humans that he exploits on a daily basis.
In 2011, it's very clear that he knows that when you paint someone out to be the enemy and say that they're going to kill the men and take the women as slaves and attack the children, that it's your natural human response.
jordan holmes
Do you mean like...
Take the children and just be all pedophile on them.
dan friesen
And snatch them from the backyards, because that's what the globalists want to do.
jordan holmes
No, of course.
dan friesen
I even have a clip of it from the 19th, from October 19th, 2017.
Here's a clip of him talking exactly like what he's accusing people of feeling about Obama.
alex jones
They are your sworn enemy.
They are the diseased brain of the globalists.
Hellbent on destroying culture.
For absolute, complete domination.
They are so mentally ill and so incredibly competitive that they see your prosperity as evil.
They don't see overall prosperity as their collective prosperity.
jordan holmes
Describe prosperity.
alex jones
They see it as a horrible affront to them.
That's why they push collectivism that we've seen ravage every country that ever tried it.
And here we are, 100 years into the great experiment of...
Marxist-Leninist ideology.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
And 220-plus million dead we know of at the hands of communism.
Fascism and all other governmental exterminations we know of are only another 60 million.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait.
dan friesen
Hold on.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait.
You had already paused that before.
You were like...
dan friesen
Jordan's not going to like that.
jordan holmes
Jordan's not going to like that.
Jordan's not going to like him saying, wait a second.
Fascism is way less bad than communism.
And then lump socialism in there with him.
Because they don't fucking know what words mean.
Doesn't explain what prosperity is because he doesn't know what it fucking actually means.
Doesn't know that they're...
Fascism isn't that bad.
No, he's right.
He's right.
dan friesen
Only human history has killed 60 million people, which I at least think that means he's just talking about the Holocaust.
jordan holmes
He wants some light fascism.
dan friesen
Right.
At least that's...
It's not Holocaust denial at this point.
It's just every other denial.
Yeah.
Look, that's all fascism has ever done.
jordan holmes
Hey, think about it this way.
Holocaust?
Lesser of two evils.
dan friesen
He actually does think that.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
Compared to, like, Stalin and Mao and shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
Now, admittedly, Stalin and Mao did have a higher body count.
It's true.
Now...
The idea of calling that a communist government is fucking stupid.
unidentified
Interesting.
jordan holmes
Communism is an economic system.
The government that they had was...
dan friesen
Authoritarian?
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
What's another way?
There you go!
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's dumb.
Alex is dumb.
jordan holmes
Fucking stupid.
I hate these people.
dan friesen
But anyway, they're your sworn enemies.
jordan holmes
You can't compare communism and fascism.
Those are not...
Inconsistent with each other.
And they are not the same fucking thing.
Like, that's one of the brilliant things that they did in the Cold War is they portrayed it as communism that was the issue, not their horrifying fascist government.
Like, even Orwell, the idea that he's, you know, he's describing how communism has the flaw of eventual some are more equal than others.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
What else does that turn into as a government, though, is fascism.
All of Animal Farm was a fascist dictatorship growing out of people fucking over other people.
Very frustrating.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
These people are stupid.
dan friesen
Which can spring out of capitalism just as easily.
jordan holmes
Well, clearly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway...
jordan holmes
It can spring out of anywhere where income inequality is the...
not just...
dan friesen
This severe.
jordan holmes
Is the driving force of everything.
dan friesen
I had to pause there.
jordan holmes
Like, some are more equal than others, and it doesn't get more obvious than that than now.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Whenever we have fucking billionaires who are unafraid of nuclear war because they're going to get their fucking tax cuts.
dan friesen
They have armored redoubts.
They have armored redoubts.
jordan holmes
Unbelievable.
dan friesen
So anyway, the context of this, again, in case you forgot, was that Alex...
jordan holmes
I love it when you pre-remind me what's going on after I go on to a weird rant.
dan friesen
It's just him exploiting that trick that he described in 2011.
unidentified
Absolutely.
alex jones
Communism accounts for over 80% of deaths by government in the last 100 years since the luscious...
In the eyes of the globalists.
jordan holmes
Sickening.
alex jones
Anti-Christian, anti-family, anti-God.
Bloodbath.
Orgy of carnage and death.
That is the great vampiric red terror.
Suckling on the blood of your children.
That's who they are.
dan friesen
So there we go.
jordan holmes
40% off on...
dan friesen
No, no, no.
Not this time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, like, that's it.
That's that.
I mean, that's what he's doing.
He described the trick six years ago on air, and he's been doing it with great effect since.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
He's exploiting that natural fear and natural desire to fight back and band together.
He's created a community out of it.
And it's a community based on fear and hate.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
In 2011, he does...
Wind up making a very, whether or not he means to, but a very great point about our government, which is that nothing brings everybody together like...
Dropping a bomb or murdering somebody.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Everybody in D.C. gets a huge hard-on when they murder somebody.
dan friesen
This goes back to, like, the thing that I talk about a bit, about how he's a different person than he was years ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, you can see these glimmers of, like, much, much closer to rational human.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And I know that, like, the chat room loves to fucking come down on me anytime I say someone's reasonable.
But, like, past Alex Jones is much closer to...
That.
In the sense that even what you're describing, he's making a fair point to some degree.
jordan holmes
Immediately after Trump dropped the mother of all bombs, everybody was like, now he's presidential.
And you're like, fucking kill us all.
There's no point.
If you guys are going to suck his dick after he drops every bomb, fuck you.
dan friesen
It's going to be a bad time.
jordan holmes
It's going to be a bad run.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So at this point in the episode here on the 19th, Alex pivots and gets into talking a ton about Hollywood.
And in this clip, he starts by describing the sort of tiered layers of depravity that are in Hollywood, and then it gets weird.
alex jones
So it goes from the heterosexual to the homosexual to the pedophilia, and then it's human sacrifice, torture, death, murder.
And they prime people with things like Fifty Shades of Grey and all this to get people into it, thinking it's avant-garde.
But finally, the 10 or 15th time you're in that dungeon and didn't tell anybody where you were going?
Once you've been running around with a bunch of folks and they think they've got you where they want you, they're not going to let you out of those ropes.
You're going to be down there for a couple weeks if you're lucky, maybe a few months, so they might keep you for a couple years in a dungeon.
jordan holmes
I feel like you have somebody in a dungeon, Alex.
alex jones
They're going to come in and laugh at you with a bone sticking out of your side begging for your mommy.
And just finally, when you become a gibbering, wailing person, finally when they hear you making happy noises, totally mentally ill, totally broken, they're going to say, get that slab of crap out of here and throw it in the river.
They're going to open an acid bath up and dunk you in there.
Hollywood doesn't like it when I tell you this.
Hollywood is a spider hole for devil worshippers to get your young daughters and sons out there so they can rape them and torture them to death.
dan friesen
So again, he's exploiting the trick again.
jordan holmes
They are your enemy.
dan friesen
That's all he does.
When you really break it down, when you start to see, like, the problem that he has is that all of these things that he's said over the years are on record.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So when we take that clip from 2011, we're aware that he knows that this is a trick people can employ.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He's cognizant of it.
It's not like he's forgotten in the last six years this awareness that, like, oh, you can really...
Really get to people.
You can fuck with them and get them to change a lot of their beliefs if they think that their loved ones are threatened.
Yeah.
So...
jordan holmes
There you go!
dan friesen
Yeah, it really makes all this very disingenuous.
jordan holmes
It's almost like in 2011 he pointed that out and, like, a light bulb went off in his head.
He was like, oh, no wonder people aren't listening enough to me.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I'm not exploiting their fears, duh!
dan friesen
Buckley, write it down.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Write this down, Buckley.
Scare people.
jordan holmes
No one's ever written that down before, Buckley.
That's a completely original idea.
dan friesen
I'm the greatest.
Now spin the wheels of steel.
jordan holmes
And get that lady out of my basement.
dan friesen
Periodic throw her in an acid bath.
jordan holmes
Come on, throw her in an acid bath already.
dan friesen
Periodic reminder that Buckley is also a DJ, apparently.
So anyway, in this next clip, Alex uses the trick some more.
alex jones
There's some type of demon energy in the universe that enters into people and always manifests this from a sociological, archaeological point.
It's a known fact.
We're facing hordes.
unidentified
Archaeologists have discovered demon energy.
jordan holmes
That's famously an issue with archaeologists all the time.
I saw Indiana Jones.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Demon energy is all over the place.
dan friesen
The enemies, Alex Jones' enemies, are demon beings, and there's a horde of Satan worshippers that he's up against.
It's dehumanizing of your opposition.
jordan holmes
Yeah, definitely don't speak to them.
Definitely don't learn from them.
dan friesen
Kill them on sight.
jordan holmes
Make sure that they are dead.
dan friesen
Yeah, kill them on sight.
They're devil worshippers.
jordan holmes
The only way we're going to get back to prosperity is if we kill all the devil worshippers.
dan friesen
And you know the devil worshippers because they disagree with Alex.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And they are not heterosexuals.
dan friesen
No, which is at the top.
jordan holmes
Which is at the top!
dan friesen
Then homosexual, then pedophile, then death cult, I guess.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, very weird.
So in this next clip, Alex reveals...
So on a recent episode, he revealed that in a meeting with a Hollywood executive, he was sexually assaulted.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Which, again, we're not making fun of.
But I will make fun of this.
He has another discussion about a meeting with a Hollywood executive that is...
Less believable and dumb.
jordan holmes
Where he sexually assaults him?
dan friesen
No, but Mark Dice does get involved.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
alex jones
The devil can take a big old jump in the lake, as they say.
Yeah, Katy Perry says she sold her soul to the devil.
And they don't just do that to act cool.
I've been in Hollywood, and I've had people ask me, hey, the devil isn't that bad.
Lucifer isn't that bad.
All you gotta do is renounce Christ, and you're gonna be a very, very rich man.
dan friesen
Sure.
alex jones
I never told that story until Mark Dice told it.
jordan holmes
I haven't told that lie until Mark Dice lied about it.
dan friesen
We'll get back to Mark Dice's story here in a second, but Alex has told this a couple times on air.
He'll go to a party in Hollywood, and he'll be like, you know, I was at this party, and then someone would come up to me and be like, hey, we're about to worship Satan, so you should get out of here if you don't want to be involved.
jordan holmes
I like the idea that in the meeting with the Hollywood executive, he's like, listen, I love your pitch.
We're going to green light it.
dan friesen
Your money.
jordan holmes
Definitely ain't that bad.
unidentified
Definitely ain't that bad.
jordan holmes
You ever worship Lucifer?
dan friesen
Lucifer's pretty cool.
unidentified
Not a bad guy.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's very generous.
He's a good golfer.
jordan holmes
Loves you, so long as you don't tell him to go jump on a lake.
dan friesen
Just got to renounce God.
jordan holmes
Doesn't like water.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
The idea, the very idea that you would be at a party and someone's like, look, dude, we're about to worship Satan.
You gotta get out of here.
My first instinct would be like, first of all, I'm staying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course!
dan friesen
I don't have to worship Satan.
It still could be around.
My second thought...
They want me out of here.
I'm a buzzkill.
This party, it would be better without me.
They're just fucking with me to get me to leave.
jordan holmes
I am now, anytime, one, I have not been to a party in such a long time.
Two, the next party I go to, I'm going to be like, hey dude, we're about to worship the devil, so you make your decision now.
But let me tell you something.
Gonna get hot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He also has some stories about, like, we're about to bring some kids out or something like that.
It's like, you're just making this up.
jordan holmes
We're about to bring some kids up.
dan friesen
He's just making shit up about weird Hollywood parties he's been to or misrepresenting someone trying to get rid of him.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I think the latter is probably more likely.
Anyway, let's hear what happened to Mark Dice.
alex jones
Mark Dice is there at one of the biggest reality TV show companies in the world.
They're offering him his show as one of the lead members of Motley Crue.
dan friesen
Probably Tommy Lee.
I guess.
Vince Neil?
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
Nikki Sixx?
alex jones
And he's in there alone with the head producer, the head of the company.
And the guy looks at him and he says, you know what?
I like the devil.
And I worship the devil.
And Lucifer's God.
And if you'll just tell me that you worship Lucifer, I'm going to give you this job.
Mark Dice wouldn't worship Lucifer.
dan friesen
Good for him.
alex jones
Stupid reality show.
Who wants it?
I've been on the shows in that to worship the devil.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Good for you, Mark.
alex jones
Having a real in-depth discussion with you, being able to really long-form break things down, really talking about what's happening is so much better than being in some decadent, dirty megacity with a bunch of soulless people.
dan friesen
I got bad news for you, Alex.
You do not break things down long form.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
You have a very warped view of what your show is.
jordan holmes
You can't even listen to Joe Biden talk for 30 seconds.
dan friesen
Not even two seconds.
jordan holmes
No, that's true.
Jesus.
dan friesen
You're just a distracted ball of bullshit.
Yeah.
Good on you.
Good on you.
You're making money.
Anyway, I just kept this next clip in because it's not true.
jordan holmes
I know.
But let's just workshop this.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Should I be the executive?
jordan holmes
I don't know if we even need to do that.
I just need to figure out what is your lead-in to we're going to worship the devil.
dan friesen
So in this show, Tommy Lee is going to pretend to go back to college.
Okay.
And you want to say it?
jordan holmes
I am Mark Dice.
dan friesen
That's actually true.
jordan holmes
I am actually into Satan.
dan friesen
That's too dynamic of a voice you're doing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good point.
dan friesen
This is nitpicking a little bit, but the owner of the company, the biggest reality show company in the world...
jordan holmes
Talking to Mark Dice.
dan friesen
...also is the producer of this show.
It seems unlikely that that would be the same person.
jordan holmes
You gotta get your hands dirty.
I didn't start the largest reality TV show production company in the world to not get involved.
dan friesen
Right, and I did it just two years later.
Fuck with Mark Dice.
jordan holmes
That'd be funny.
dan friesen
Let's start a reality show company.
That's where this has got to go.
jordan holmes
We've got to have a reality show called Fucking with Mark Dice.
dan friesen
Oh, let's move to L.A. Absolutely.
jordan holmes
I'm up for worshiping some devil.
dan friesen
It'd be great if Alex had a story like this for all of his employees.
The one time Owen Troyer was tempted.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Jerome Corsi, he's working in D.C., who wrote this long article about how Joe Biden came up to him one night and he was like...
Listen, I think it's important that we honor social norms, and I think basic competency at your job is only really achievable if you worship the devil.
dan friesen
Oh my god.
Also, a little fun fact about Jerome Corsi, if there are any.
In trying to find that article that Alex keeps referencing, or it was referencing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I searched Infowars.com for Jerome Corsi.
And one of the things that came up was an article from September...
I don't remember what month, actually.
It was 2011.
And in it, Jerome Corsi was making the argument that Donald Trump was working with Obama.
The entire birther thing was a setup.
And Donald Trump was making a big deal out of it just so Obama could come out with and destroy the entire narrative.
When the truth is...
Yeah, actually, I mean, it is all fake.
There's a fake birth certificate.
So Donald Trump was in on it as a setup.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
They need to take that stuff off the website.
jordan holmes
Okay.
If I understand this correctly.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Trump knew, or Obama has a fake birth certificate.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Not from here.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
He and Trump get to talking.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And Obama's like, here's the only way that I'm going to get away with this.
dan friesen
I need cover.
jordan holmes
I need you.
Noted lunatic Donald Trump.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
To pretend that you're a racist, which we both know can't be true.
dan friesen
No evidence of that.
jordan holmes
And claim that my birth certificate isn't real.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That way I can go on TV and say that it is real.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
And no one will believe you, Donald Trump.
dan friesen
That's basically what Jerome Corsi's arguing.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
So he has a good history.
unidentified
Speaking of which.
dan friesen
And also he claims to be friends with Trump for like the last 40 years.
Which seems to fly in the face of him making that kind of an accusation just six years ago.
jordan holmes
Just from a purely objective standpoint, how's course he's writing?
Is he any good?
dan friesen
No.
I mean, he's competent.
jordan holmes
Yeah?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Do you mean he can spell?
dan friesen
No bells and whistles, I'll say that.
Speaking of bells and whistles, I kept this...
jordan holmes
Goddammit, what a great transition.
dan friesen
I kept this clip in just because he does my favorite voice.
It's a short clip, but it's my favorite voice.
alex jones
You're going to enjoy it, so just come on down here, sweetheart.
You're going to like it, because you're going to float too.
It's so liberal.
jordan holmes
Although maybe it's real, because it does love...
alex jones
All the big feminist leaders say we shouldn't have families.
That hurts women.
We should have the trannies teach the three-year-olds it's liberal.
Families are bad.
unidentified
Stick your arm in this drainage ditch.
dan friesen
The voice is just...
jordan holmes
Families are bad.
dan friesen
The voice that I like is...
jordan holmes
Stick your arm in this drainage ditch.
dan friesen
It's more the clown stuff, as he would say.
You ever hear about the devil?
Pennywise asked him.
You went to the devil?
jordan holmes
I was walking by a sewer grate the other day.
dan friesen
There's an executive down there.
jordan holmes
Pennywise, who is the executive of the largest reality TV show production company.
dan friesen
Yeah, the voice that I like that I was referencing is the liberal.
alex jones
I just like that.
unidentified
Liberal.
alex jones
Liberal.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So now we get into something that is a little bit, maybe slightly uncomfortable.
Maybe not.
I don't know.
Billy Weaver comes on.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And one of the reasons she comes on is that she was, the way she phrases it is, exploited and sexually assaulted by Alex Jones when she was an actress in Hollywood.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Before she came to InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, then I believe her.
dan friesen
Sure.
And they talk about it a little bit, and I don't want to get into it because I generally don't like her work, and I don't want to say anything negative about that.
I support her, and I feel empathic, but be that as it may, she has an interesting take on the abuse in Hollywood.
jordan holmes
If Ann Coulter came out and said that she was sexually assaulted...
Which, she worked at Fox News, so...
dan friesen
She wouldn't work there.
She was a contributor.
jordan holmes
She went to the office.
I imagine the moment you walk in.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
But, yeah, if she comes out and says so, I believe her, and I think that's awful.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Agreed.
jordan holmes
But you can still be a fucking horrific person.
dan friesen
Agreed.
So, here, I have three clips where she lays out a very clunky solution to the abuse in Hollywood.
And I don't like it.
I don't like it at all.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
millie weaver
The media is trying to do and hijacking these celebrity women's abuses by telling all women that, see, this is all a problem of masculinity.
It's all men's fault.
Men are the bad guys in general.
When in reality, you have a handful of predatory type men out there, and what needs to happen with the real men out there, the good-hearted men out there, they need to, instead of saying, oh, well, you know, okay, and try to disinvalidate it by saying, You know, these women, maybe they're asking for it.
Maybe they're trading for their career or whatever.
No, the real men need to say, you know what?
We're going to take on these women's plight.
We're going to fight these predatory discussions.
alex jones
And then that way the leftists can't be the gatekeepers.
They control the environmental movement but want to tax carbon dioxide.
jordan holmes
No, of course.
The problem is that men aren't...
Fighting for women and forcing them to, again, stay silent in the background.
dan friesen
Well, there's an element of that in there.
And the only thing I really want to pull out of there really specifically is that Alex, one of his immediate reactions was...
You know what you're getting into in Hollywood.
So whenever she's talking about the real men shouldn't blame the women or anything like that.
jordan holmes
She is not talking about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Alex is sitting right there.
He has said all that stuff.
Except for he stopped just short of what are they wearing.
That sort of thing.
Let me play the next clip before you react.
jordan holmes
Is it going to get much worse?
Because that right there, she's not doing a good job of...
Speaking English?
dan friesen
There is a point in there that is reasonable.
It falls by the wayside.
jordan holmes
You know what she did?
She combined hashtag not all men with a good point, which is that it is by a lot of silent complicity that...
Powerful men get away with this bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a system.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But she then is falling back on it's just a couple of bad eggs.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Exactly.
unidentified
But...
jordan holmes
Hashtag not all men.
dan friesen
Her take on it is, like I said, as she reiterates it, it gets worse.
millie weaver
Exactly.
If you want to take down feminism, because feminism is vile, it's repulsive, it's all about man-hating, and I will not stand for it.
alex jones
And it's all about weird technocrat women controlling women.
millie weaver
Exactly.
alex jones
And if you don't have a husband that's there to defend you and help you and you help him, the state's your husband.
millie weaver
Exactly.
The women are forced to go to these feminist women that hate men for help rather than going to the real men in society, the men that can actually stand up and say, we're going to come after the Harvey Weinsteins.
We're going to come after these sick predators that want to do this to women.
jordan holmes
So what you're saying is it's not men who are the problem.
It's men who are the problem.
dan friesen
Right, right.
And it's women for not relying on men.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's almost as though women have been burned so many times in the past they find it difficult to rely on men, seeing as how men in their lives have so often proved themselves to be unreliable.
dan friesen
Interesting.
Interesting take.
So now let's get to this last enumeration of her sort of perspective.
jordan holmes
Which is dumb and inconsistent and doesn't make any fucking sense.
dan friesen
And I think what she's espousing here in this last one is actually really, really dangerous advice.
But we'll see.
millie weaver
You know, and it kind of reminds me of this story that Gavin told me about his grandpa and how times used to be versus how they are now.
You know, they're putting all these chemicals in the water to try and lower sperm counts.
But, you know, I want to talk about his grandpa.
Apparently, one of their neighbors kept beating his wife, okay?
The men kept finding out, and Gavin's grandpa kept finding out through the wives.
The wives would keep complaining, you know, this guy, he keeps beating our friend so-and-so.
He's beating his wife.
And you know what they did?
They went over there with guns, and they beat him up and said, if you ever put your hand on this woman again, we will.
Mess you up bad.
And you know what?
He stopped and the women stopped complaining.
Their wives stopped complaining and they didn't need feminism.
alex jones
Because men acted like men.
millie weaver
Men acted like men.
And nowadays it's like the guys beating up the women, the women are all hearing the other women complain, and the men aren't doing anything.
So what do they do?
They go to the feminists who are going to try to demonize all men.
alex jones
Who are actually more like madams.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You know, in the real world...
jordan holmes
They do understand that both men are acting...
are violent.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And that is an issue.
dan friesen
Well, two negatives make a positive.
jordan holmes
I don't...
I think if you multiply them, but that's not how...
dan friesen
And also, situations like this generally end in the battered wife getting killed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's usually how this escalates.
It doesn't usually work that a physically violent, abusive man gets beat up by other men, and then he's like, oh, I've realized the error of my ways.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
That doesn't work.
It doesn't happen like that.
jordan holmes
Clearly, violence is the answer.
If violence worked the first time and then I got violenced on, violence doesn't...
Wait.
dan friesen
Quite frankly, what she's espousing could get someone killed.
jordan holmes
How many mass shooters have history of domestic violence?
dan friesen
Almost all of them.
jordan holmes
That is so...
dan friesen
It's such a bad take.
jordan holmes
And it reveals exactly the issue again, which is...
She even said it.
The women kept...
Complaining.
dan friesen
And then, once they beat the guy up, the women stopped complaining.
jordan holmes
Kept complaining.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Which means they had to complain a lot.
Which means that the men, once again, did not believe them, and she got beaten up even more.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then, once they beat the fuck out of that guy, they stopped complaining, which I'm sure had nothing to do with the fact that maybe they got retaliated on.
dan friesen
You know what she's basically saying, like, the best system for dealing with this stuff is?
It's a Nickelback song.
They have a song called Never Again that is just that.
Like, Chad Kroger is singing about living downstairs from a lady that's getting beat, and so he goes up and he kicks the guy's ass.
jordan holmes
I don't need another reason to hate Nickelback.
dan friesen
Right, but you know what I'm saying?
It's like, this is Nickelback song lyric level of analysis of a real-world problem.
jordan holmes
That's the most scathing criticism I have ever heard.
dan friesen
You're welcome.
jordan holmes
This is Nickelback-level stupidity.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And they're not even trying to, like...
Do a political show.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
They're just trying to be good old Canadian white men.
dan friesen
Just trying to play state fairs.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Who among us is not?
dan friesen
I'm sorry.
Province fairs.
jordan holmes
Speaking of which, Illinois, we will do a live knowledge fight at the state fair.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I will take a deep fried butter.
dan friesen
So we have one more clip here.
And this one, Alex reveals that one of the hosts of The View wanted to fuck him.
Which host?
I'm not sure if I believe him.
jordan holmes
It's got to be Whoopi.
dan friesen
It's not Elizabeth Hasselbeck.
alex jones
I'll tell you that.
Famous feminists.
And even though they're old women, they actually hit on you.
I mean, I'll just say it because they put Joy Behar image on Twitter grabbing a man's genitals.
Without asking.
I mean, she didn't do that, but I was on CNN with her, too, not just The View.
And she's like, you're a good-looking young man.
Hey, how long are you in New York?
And she didn't go all the way, but it was like the famous madam in the movie, like, hey, baby, why don't you come up here and see me sometime?
And for an older woman, I mean, she was definitely putting it on and wasn't joking.
Well, I'm not going to say arrest her if she grabbed a guy's genitals.
You know, the point is, the next time he said stop, though, then it would be rape if she continued.
But it just shows what a bunch of hypocrites they are.
millie weaver
Exactly.
And I have actually met and been told about and was in circles with people who are like, oh yeah, that's so-and-so.
She's a madam.
And the madams have tried to come and talk.
alex jones
And again, you've got a lot of women that just have that madam spirit as well for the powerful men.
We're going to go to break and come back with more just briefly, folks.
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They're obsessed with demonizing our products all over national television because they're so good.
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dan friesen
That's why.
jordan holmes
That's why.
dan friesen
Also, a nice reminder that he recently was found that two of his products, both the Bone Broth, the caveman, and MycoZX have levels of lead that are unacceptable in the state of California.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
unidentified
I like how awful they're, like...
jordan holmes
She was an older woman interested in sex.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
She's a madam.
jordan holmes
Oh, Jesus.
dan friesen
Joy Behar did not want to fuck you, Alex.
jordan holmes
Could anybody be...
It's hard to imagine more misogynist people than those at InfoWars.
dan friesen
It's just all around gross.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just gross.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
That weird sex dungeon fantasy, I don't...
I really don't feel comfortable with that.
dan friesen
It comes from a real place.
And even beyond that, it is just that 2011 trick that he described.
No matter what, it's just a manifestation of this, I'm trying to scare you about your supposed enemies.
And so what we come away from this with is Alex Blewett in terms of the timeline of his narrative about Hillary Clinton trying to deflect from their Russia shit by accusing...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
These folks of Russia.
jordan holmes
Seeing as how he did that.
dan friesen
He started it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Long before Trump.
jordan holmes
No, you started it.
dan friesen
Right.
Unfortunately, history bears out that our side of this is correct.
jordan holmes
That has not helped us yet.
dan friesen
And it won't.
jordan holmes
Being correct is only damaging us, really.
dan friesen
Quite frankly, it turns people off.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, if you'd like to find out more about the show, we have a website, knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
Yeah, post a new blog today.
Then you can follow us on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
That's correct.
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
You can go to iTunes, leave a review, give us nice words.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I like nice words.
dan friesen
Rip it.
I give it a B. That's not too bad.
unidentified
Minus.
jordan holmes
You know who else gets a B-?
dan friesen
Hold on.
jordan holmes
We got another plug?
dan friesen
Yeah, we're on.
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We are on here recording live Monday through Thursday evening at 8 p.m. Central.
Please come along and join us.
We do appreciate it.
It's a lot of fun.
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Also, patreon.com slash knowledgefight is the direct link.
We would appreciate it because I'm not going to have a job in a week.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
I need your help.
To find nuggets like that.
To find nuggets like Alex Jones talked to Russian intelligence.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
To find nuggets like Larry Nichols straight up blackmailing Congress.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
To find this instance of their timeline being completely fucked up.
jordan holmes
And to discover that archaeologists have always known about demon energy.
dan friesen
Demons!
jordan holmes
Demons!
dan friesen
Right!
I'm sure you got that from Steve Quayle.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The guy who studies giants.
jordan holmes
Or the Simpsons episode where they found an angel.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's possible.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
But you know who's not an angel.
jordan holmes
Ha ha!
Damn it!
You did so much better than me!
dan friesen
It was this old asshole.
jordan holmes
Fucking quit.
dan friesen
It was this asshole, dude.
He's old.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
Yeah.
And you know what?
jordan holmes
Let me ask you a question.
dan friesen
He's gonna die soon.
jordan holmes
How does he feel about the devil?
dan friesen
You know what he thinks about the devil?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
He thinks that he knows.
jordan holmes
He knows?
dan friesen
That the devil is a-coming for him.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He knows that.
jordan holmes
But he's still trying to say, go jump in the lake, devil.
dan friesen
But he knows that before the devil gets his hands on him, he's gonna have to die.
And when he dies, may the wolf choke on his flesh.
But still, go fuck yourself, John Rappaport.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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