Today, Dan tells Jordan about some of the weirdness that occurred on the Oct. 11th episode of The Alex Jones Show, but that weirdness could not possibly match the weirdness that happens when Larry Nichols calls in to the show with a complicated story dealing with Hard Rice, jingles, and Linda Bloodworth-Thomas.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
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I'm a first time caller. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Dan, is there a twist today? | ||
| There is a couple twists. | ||
| Is there a big twist? | ||
| There is a couple twists. | ||
| Is there a solid twist? | ||
| One of the twists is I know a lot about Alex Jones and his cohorts. | ||
| And all I know is what you have told me, and I've forgotten most of that shit. | ||
| Today we are drinking Arizona Prescription Energy. | ||
| That's what we need. | ||
| So, hey, Jordan, today we're going to be going over the October 11th episode. | ||
| That would be great if we just did a complete pivot and we were like, fucking fooled you bitches! | ||
| We fooled anybody. | ||
| We haven't said it. | ||
| I totally did. | ||
| You just put it out on Twitter. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Before that, we could have plausibly denied that there was anything going on. | ||
| We absolutely could not have. | ||
| I could have. | ||
| I could have been like, fuck y 'all. | ||
| Okay, fair enough. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| But we are going to go over the October 11th episode in some fashion or another. | ||
| But there's something special going on that you have cooked up. | ||
| Yeah, I called him earlier today. | ||
| Who's him? | ||
| We haven't said anything. | ||
| Guys, we're going to call Larry Nichols. | ||
| He has agreed to talk to us for at most an hour, which I don't know if we'll be able to keep from screaming at his face. | ||
| Over the phone, but yes. | ||
| So I talked to him earlier today. | ||
| We had a very congenial conversation wherein he tried to explain to me how the impeachment process works as though I was fucking 12 and in a civics class. | ||
| It's not! | ||
| The House votes! | ||
| And then if they are like, yeah, let's... | ||
| Do that. | ||
| The Senate votes. | ||
| It's very simple. | ||
| Right, but it's complicated. | ||
| It's not even really going to be a trial if it does happen. | ||
| They're going to be like, hey, you saw him be president. | ||
| He's not going to be president. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| And it won't happen because the Republicans are fucking cowards, which even he fucking knows because his threats are so goddamn empty and full of bullshit. | ||
| Well, we go back to the Saul Alinsky tactics that we talked about yesterday. | ||
| One of them, the threat is we're always worse than the actual follow through. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| He knows that because he's a Solinsky-ite. | ||
| Damn you, Dan! | ||
| So, Larry Nichols, like you said, he agreed to talk to us for an hour. | ||
| There's no way it's going to go that long. | ||
| No. | ||
| I think your offer was half an hour. | ||
| I also predict he's going to hang up with us pretty quick. | ||
| My prediction is he is going to try and worm his way out of literally everything. | ||
| He will fight with us for an hour just to avoid admitting a goddamn thing. | ||
| And here is Larry Nichols right now, guys. | ||
| And then we will get to the episode proper. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Let's do this. | ||
| Larry, how are you today? | ||
| Oh, I'm doing just great. | ||
| Just to let you know, we are live on the air right now. | ||
| We are recording this. | ||
| You are right on time, my friend. | ||
| So real quick, before we even get into this, there's one thing that I do want to kind of get up front, which is that we're going to be asking you a bunch of questions about your past with the Clintons and a lot of the claims that you've made. | ||
| And you've said a lot of things that are untrue. | ||
| So what we'd like to do is, you know, just have a conversation where you feel comfortable telling us what really happened in all of those things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| All righty. | ||
| Real quick then, let's start at the beginning. | ||
| What work did you do for Bill Clinton? | ||
| I started out helping, actually working for Jack and with Stevens. | ||
| And they were Jordan in that day in Arkansas. | ||
| They were the key makers. | ||
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They were ultra, ultra rich. | |
| Owned Arkansas, Louisiana, Gaz. | ||
| They had the largest brokerage firm outside of Wall Street, anywhere in the world, right in Little Rock. | ||
| and if you were going to do anything in politics, you had to go figure out Gotcha. | ||
| I was thinking Doogie Howser, but that's fine. | ||
| It wasn't him. | ||
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Just about, but not quite. | |
| Yeah, so you started working for Bill. | ||
| What year was that? | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| That would have been 76, maybe. | ||
| 76. Don't get me to lying about dates, but that's about as close. | ||
| It was his first run for governor. | ||
| Hey, Larry, I understand that before that... | ||
| Hi, I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm the co-host of the show. | ||
| Hi, Dan. | ||
| How you doing, buddy? | ||
| Pretty good. | ||
| Thanks for joining us. | ||
| I understand that before that, you were in marketing. | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| I had a commercial production company, which was called On Air Productions, and we did dingles for companies all over the country. | ||
| Okay, and then how did that turn into your job for Bill? | ||
| It's kind of, there's just a world of weird. | ||
| Because I developed a name for being able to do jingles and come up with ideas for customers and such, and I did a lot of work for the Stevens Company. | ||
| They owned several banks. | ||
| In that time, the laws in Arkansas were you could... | ||
| Like, there couldn't be branch banks in other cities. | ||
| So every town had their own bank. | ||
| And, of course, the Stevens brothers just about owned a bank in every town. | ||
| So I would come in and take over little banks and handle their advertising, set them up, do all of that. | ||
| And that got me involved in more than just radio. | ||
| But I had to do newspaper. | ||
| And then ended up having to get into TV in the major market, Little Rock. | ||
| And so, because of all of that, I ended up doing work for Parks and Tourism, Coca-Cola, Pepsi-Cola, and the Stevens had a lot of confidence in me. | ||
| And so when they said, we got somebody for you to meet, they paid me $5,000. | ||
| To meet Bill Clinton. | ||
| I met him at a restaurant called John Barleycorn's in Little Rock. | ||
| So, sorry, real quick. | ||
| So they paid you five grand just to meet him? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Well, to meet him and give them my assessment of what he was like, what I thought he'd be as a candidate. | ||
| And what was that? | ||
| Well, it was kind of tough to meet him. | ||
| I met him there. | ||
| And I'm going to report to you what I reported back to the student. | ||
| It's kind of hard to talk to the guy because every time I turned around, he was pinching a waitress in the butt. | ||
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He never really talked about anything. | |
| He was chasing women all over the place. | ||
| It was the 70s. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| It was the 70s. | ||
| It was the 70s and, buddy, he was running hot. | ||
| And he told me, So in the very first meeting you had with Bill Clinton, Bill told you that he liked to screw around, basically? | ||
| He'd pinch the waitresses on the butt. | ||
| They'd get mad and run off. | ||
| And then he'd get up and I'd turn around and couldn't find him. | ||
| And then he'd be hugging and grabbing some waitress by the boobs. | ||
| I mean, it was just a nightmare. | ||
| So why did you start working for him then, if that was that? | ||
| Well, money. | ||
| Money? | ||
| Yeah, I went to the Stevens and they said, what do you think? | ||
| I said, well, I've got a little checking. | ||
| I met him. | ||
| And I've got to be honest with you guys. | ||
| This guy's a pathological liar. | ||
| I said in the hour or so that we met, I don't think he told me the truth about a damn thing. | ||
| He's a hopeless womanizer. | ||
| I mean, this guy's obsessed. | ||
| And in case y 'all don't know, which I was telling then, in case y 'all don't know, this guy's into marijuana and probably cocaine. | ||
| I've spent some of my life doing marijuana. | ||
| Yeah, so are we. | ||
| We're cool with that. | ||
| But then you couldn't be not in the Deep South. | ||
| Not in the mid-70s in the Deep South. | ||
| That was not cool. | ||
| I can see how that would be a problem with the political world and stuff. | ||
| Larry, this was during the... | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| So, you think you can handle the case or something like that? | ||
| And I said I did not say I couldn't get him elected. | ||
| I just told you what he was. | ||
| So did you function as his campaign manager then? | ||
| We called it Handler. | ||
| And this was during the first time he was governor of Arkansas? | ||
| First time, yes sir. | ||
| So then he did not become governor contiguously. | ||
| He lost the second time and then became governor again in 83? | ||
| Well, we actually did. | ||
| We got him elected. | ||
| And then Bill. | ||
| Too big for his britches. | ||
| In '81? | ||
| Yes, or whatever year that was, his first term. | ||
| During his first term, he just went wild. | ||
| He went crazy, and then he made the ultimate mistake dealing with the boat people from Vietnam. | ||
| And he went against the Stevenses. | ||
| And when he did, Mr. Jack and Mr. Wick called me in. | ||
| And they said, you know, excuse my language, they said, son of a bitch, don't listen. | ||
| So we're going to stop breaking. | ||
| And we're going to run somebody against him. | ||
| And I said, well, who's that? | ||
| And they said, Frank White. | ||
| Now, Frank White was a Republican. | ||
| And in that day in Arkansas, he was the whole Republican party. | ||
| There were no Republicans in Arkansas. | ||
| And he was a buffoon, a complete blithering idiot. | ||
| Who are the boat people from Vietnam? | ||
| That was when there were all these Vietnamese that escaped Vietnam when we pulled out, and they were trying to find places for them. | ||
| We had a place called Fort Cathy in Fort Smith, Arkansas, which was an old World War II base or Army post. | ||
| And so Bill had to bring an idea that he could put them there. | ||
| And Mr. Stevens and Jack Witt, they didn't want them in this state by any means. | ||
| And Bill said, to hell with it. | ||
| And he put them in. | ||
| And so I went to work for Frank White. | ||
| And we beat Bill. | ||
| Okay, so you went to work for Bill, then you went to work for Frank White. | ||
| And then you went back to work for Bill? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Why did you do that? | ||
| Well, remember, you say I worked for Bill. | ||
| Actually, I worked for the Stevens Brothers. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Stevens Brothers told me who and what to do. | ||
| So they said, beat him. | ||
| Here's our candidate. | ||
| So we ran in, beat Bill. | ||
| During that two years, Bill made up. | ||
| And that's when Bill changed. | ||
| Jordan Dan, that's when Bill Clinton changed. | ||
| It was during that period of time, remember, well, let me say this, when we first took him on, his whole first turn, Hillary would not take his name. | ||
| They were married. | ||
| But she would not let anybody call her Hillary Clinton. | ||
| She would not take his name. | ||
| That was a problem back then. | ||
| So when he came back to the Stevens, got on his hands and knees, apologized, they took him back, everything changed. | ||
| He became a company man then. | ||
| Then he sort of straightened. | ||
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So Bill sold out... | |
| So Bill sold out basically in 82. Okay. | ||
| Okay, so then you stopped working for Bill in 1988. | ||
| Why did that happen? | ||
| When you were working in the marketing department of the Arkansas Finance Development Authority. | ||
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Right. | |
| Well, I got there. | ||
| I got involved with the Nicaraguan resistance, the Contras. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
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And I was running around down there doing stupid stuff. | |
| And finally it got so bad down there that I was getting old, couldn't, you know, run, jump, leap tall buildings in a single bound. | ||
| So when I got back from one of the adventures, my family instructed me. | ||
| I was getting too old for that racket and I needed to get a straight jump. | ||
| job. | ||
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What racket? | |
| Working with the Contras and kind of in the jungle and Doing crazy stuff. | ||
| So did you actually go to Vietnam doing crazy stuff in the jungle? | ||
| Not Vietnam. | ||
| Sorry, Nicaragua. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Yes, I did. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Sure did. | ||
| Could you tell us a little bit of that crazy stuff? | ||
| Well, basically, from getting there until you leave, it's crazy. | ||
| I would get on a plane in either New Orleans... | ||
| Well, usually New Orleans or Florida, Miami. | ||
| And in Miami, I'd be with a group called Southern Air. | ||
| They would take me in, and I would jump out of the plane. | ||
| And then if you went out in New Orleans, you went out with the Flying Tigers. | ||
| And we would go in, and we would deliver hard and soft rice. | ||
| Now, those are the code words for hard rice was weapons. | ||
| and soft drives was humanitarian. | ||
| And what and how I got involved if you remember Iran-Contra when Oliver North and Poindexter got KO'd in the Iran-Contra hearings. | ||
| Then Reagan put me on the ground in Nicaragua replacing North and he put General Jackson up replacing Poindexter going around the country raising independent So, how did Reagan put you down in Nicaragua? | ||
| You didn't stop working for Bill until 1988. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Look, it just a new TDYs, what are called TDYs. | |
| And part of what I did with my general company, you had to have a business where you could be gone for a few weeks if necessary at a time. | ||
| and nobody eating morning wiser. | ||
| So my jingle business was perfect. | ||
| You know, I'd claim I was going to Dallas or New York or whatever. | ||
| And in fact, I would buzz down to Nicaragua and help Enrique and the boys figure out what to do. | ||
| And then I would make sure that the hard rice or soft rice went to where it Okay, so if I understand this correctly, you had a jingle business, and then directly from there you were recruited into extrajudicial Nicaraguan operations? | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| How in God's name did that happen? | ||
| Did the Stevens brothers have something to do with that? | ||
| Very much. | ||
| Stevens brothers, they had oil and gas properties in Nicaragua. | ||
| They were very heavily invested in Nicaragua. | ||
| And they needed one of their guys to take care and make sure of their investments and properties. | ||
| And of course, you've got to understand, Mr. Whit Stevens was a big to-do cop of the group with the Democratic National Party and Committee. | ||
| Jack Stevens was the big guy with the top of the people in the Republican National Committee. | ||
| Okay, so here's the problem I have with that. | ||
| Their interests make sense, or whatever. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| But the idea that they would have you taking care of all of their interests based on a slight bit of advertising work seems very strange. | ||
| Yeah, that's like if Obama had the guys from the Sonic commercials go run Iran for a while. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's not the problem. | ||
| It just seems very... | ||
| No, you'd have to been there. | ||
| Actually, it was awfully wild. | ||
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It was just a job. | |
| It was just a job. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So because of that... | ||
| Working as a handler for Bill, you know, I didn't stay with him 24-7. | ||
| Once he got elected, I would be called in. | ||
| You know, they needed a decision made, and they wanted me to go and get him convinced to do this, that, or the other, or to stop him from doing this, that, or the other. | ||
| That's the way it started. | ||
| The way it ended up was I ended up fixing it up for the women and covering up for the women he was with and trying to keep his running around cocaine and everything else, make sure that didn't hit the press. | ||
| Alright, that sounds a little bit far-fetched. | ||
| Man, I don't know why. | ||
| I mean, you... | ||
| Okay, so... | ||
| Alright, alright, let's... | ||
| I mean, that's bananas. | ||
| If true, that is one of the most implausible realities I think I can imagine. | ||
| Damn, I hate that you got a limited imagination. | ||
| Fair enough, fair enough. | ||
| So the public version and all the information that sort of is verifiable through sourced reports were that you worked there at the Arkansas Financial Development Authority and that you made a bunch of long-distance calls to Nicaragua, and that's why Bill asked you to resign. | ||
| So that part is true. | ||
| That's sort of what was said publicly. | ||
| That was not the truth at all, but that's the way it came out. | ||
| How is it that all of this reporting corroborates one side of the story and only you is supporting your side? | ||
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You know, if you look at the media today, do y 'all head? | |
| Do you see the bias, say, for Fox News? | ||
| Fox News, there is nothing good the Democrats do. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| But now if you watch ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, there's nothing good the Republicans do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You've got to take everything. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| We're all adults. | ||
| You've got to take everything with a grain of salt, certainly. | ||
| And look for... | ||
| In Arkansas, remember, that's the only world I had to deal with. | ||
| Arkansas. | ||
| And Nicaragua. | ||
| Well, yeah, but the Stevens, I'm talking about as far as Bill was concerned. | ||
| The Stevens brothers controlled everything in Arkansas. | ||
| So if the Arkansas Democrat were about to break a story where they caught Bill Clinton screwing the farmer's daughter, the Stevens would send me in, and I would say to the Democrat, I don't think you ought to do that, because if you do, we're going to pull five car dealers and six banks advertising. | ||
| And you're going to be in trouble. | ||
| And so the owners of the paper, even though the journalists might get upset, the owners could crush just about anything. | ||
| And that's what we did for years. | ||
| They just controlled the media. | ||
| What you see today in Washington was in a smaller way Arkansas. | ||
| Arkansas was its own little third-grade country back then. | ||
| Okay, so then let me ask you this question. | ||
| In 2013, you went on a radio show and claimed you killed people for the Clintons. | ||
| Yeah, I was drugged up. | ||
| You were drugged up. | ||
| Yeah, I had gone. | ||
| Now hear me on this, because I've tried to straighten this out a million times. | ||
| I had gone and had eye surgery. | ||
| I had just come in. | ||
| They had used a drug on me called Burstet. | ||
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When I got home, the phone rang. | |
| My wife left. | ||
| She went back to work. | ||
| I sat down. | ||
| The phone rang. | ||
| The lady came on. | ||
| And what was his name? | ||
| Pete's in Tilly. | ||
| I had done his show a couple of times. | ||
| She said, Pete, won't you on the air? | ||
| And I said, I don't think I should. | ||
| And I told her, I had just had surgery and pre-drugged up. | ||
| Next thing I know, here's Pete. | ||
| We're talking. | ||
| I think we're off the air. | ||
| He didn't do what you did. | ||
| Say, you know, you're alive. | ||
| But it wasn't the matter. | ||
| What I was trying to explain to Pete was we had a program called Kill Em When They're Young. | ||
| Kill Em When They're Young. | ||
| That was a play we used, which meant if somebody, for example, if Bill screwed the farmer's daughter and the farmer was fixing to start blabbing, we would go in, I would go in, or Morris or Begala, somebody would go in, and we'd explain to the guy. | ||
| And if he looked like he was really fixing to talk, we would destroy him. | ||
| You know, we'd find out about him, who he was screwing. | ||
| So the killing was metaphorical. | ||
| His foreign payments, whatever we could find out. | ||
| And if we didn't find anything, we made it up. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| So if you're admitting to saying that you made stuff up then... | ||
| I mean, that kind of makes it hard to believe what you're saying now, right? | ||
| Do you see the... | ||
| You know, Jordan, let me tell you something here and then. | ||
| This is what's gonna kill you. | ||
| I really don't care what you believe. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| I truly believe that, yes. | ||
| I barely care what I believe. | ||
| I don't come on this program claiming to be anything other than the sorriest scum of the earth. | ||
| You have ever known. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| Larry, we're not trying to come down on you. | ||
| We're not... | ||
| That's all right. | ||
| Listen, hear me out. | ||
| Ideas, I have. | ||
| So, there's nothing... | ||
| You know, that's one of the things that the national media had trouble with when I was fighting Bill. | ||
| When he was president, they'd come in and they'd come in and they'd heard something. | ||
| And I'd say to the media, hell, you think that's bad? | ||
| You should have come to me. | ||
| I'll tell you stuff I've done that's a lot. | ||
| Okay, well then, in that case, so if you admit to having made up stuff whenever there wasn't any information, would you say that when you said that Barack Obama is a secret Muslim, you made that up to smear his name? | ||
| No. | ||
| I said that's what I did. | ||
| That's what I did, guys. | ||
| Okay, so when did you stop doing that? | ||
| January the 16th, 1989. | ||
| When your family told you that you were getting too old. | ||
| No, this is after I had... | ||
| He didn't ask me the trick question, what happened between Bill Clinton and I? | ||
| When I was in Nicaragua, Adolfo Galero, who was the head of the director, you can check it out. | ||
| He kept hearing this drugs. | ||
| For guns. | ||
| They didn't have drugs for guns. | ||
| If we'd have had drugs, cocaine, we would have given it to the war wounded. | ||
| We had nothing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He asked me if I could come back to the stage and find out what on earth, where was this coming from? | ||
| I came back. | ||
| I was working at the Arkansas Development Finance Authority. | ||
| I was marketing director. | ||
| Being the type man I was with Bill, they had two sets of books. | ||
| which was not uncommon. | ||
| It was a quasi-state agency. | ||
| When it needed the cover and protection of being a state agency, it was a state agency. | ||
| When it came time to shield money and hide money and build, Right. | ||
| The guy that every day about 1 or 2 o 'clock, he'd go over to his office, and Lasseter had a huge candy dish full of this white powder, and it was cocaine, had it on his desk for everybody to see. | ||
| That sounds crazy. | ||
| Well, it's also, I mean, Larry, all this stuff is great, and I don't doubt, I mean, I might, but look, the thing is... | ||
| What I'll tell you is when I started looking in, what I found was that there was this damn airstrip in Minnesota, and it was bringing in $100 million a month of cocaine. | ||
| From where I'm sitting, Larry, it just seems very convenient that you're bringing that into all this when you admit that you were involved in Nicaragua. | ||
| You know, it seems like you're maybe... | ||
| Yeah, once again, but I can't help you. | ||
| I'll just tell you what I tell. | ||
| Can you believe it or don't? | ||
| Hey, there's no skin on my back either way. | ||
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That's fair. | |
| I'll tell you this. | ||
| I did find it. | ||
| It was in the books at the agency I worked. | ||
| Dan Lassiter was hiding and laundering the money through straw sales through his bond, bonding agency, getting bonds from AEDPA. | ||
| And that was how they were running the money. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, here's my question to you real quick before you keep going any further. | ||
| Now, when you are describing this story, this is happening at the same time that you are convicted of fraud, and you had to declare bankruptcy. | ||
| Where did you get fraud out of that one? | ||
| Well, no, it was theft by deception. | ||
| They were facing charges all around Arkansas. | ||
| Now, that was when I came out against Bill. | ||
| And they started doing the Clinton roast to me. | ||
| That was before that. | ||
| This was in the lead up to when you were... | ||
| You're talking about another Larry Nichols. | ||
| That was not me. | ||
| Oh, we're talking about you, buddy. | ||
| Be that as it may. | ||
| Then it was a case I didn't know nothing about. | ||
| It was not uncommon. | ||
| See, when I was with Bill, it wouldn't matter what we did. | ||
| You couldn't do anything to me. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| So now you're describing Bill Clinton as some sort of all-knowing power that can just black people at will. | ||
| Don't you see how this kind of massive conspiracy just doesn't hold up? | ||
| Well, especially because you're also saying that it's these banking brothers. | ||
| Because you don't understand the world we lived in then. | ||
| Jordan? | ||
| You don't have to believe any of this. | ||
| That's fine with me. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| I lived it. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Tell me about the stuff I lived. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, then, let's switch gears, then. | ||
| So, just recently, in 2015, you told Alex Jones that Obama wanted to be the last president, because if you're the last president, you become king. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Under the FEMA provisional government system, yes. | ||
| Why do you think that's true? | ||
| Because I spent two years working with General Tommy Franks. | ||
| We worked on the FEMA provisional committee. | ||
| And the FEMA provisional government is what everybody... | ||
| In Washington, I don't know who you know with anybody, but anybody that's been around Washington for the past 25, 30 years knows that for years and years and years, the whole thing comes down to if this country goes into a state of disarray, then all of a sudden there are two things that can happen. | ||
| That trigger with the president only for putting us into the theme of provisional government. | ||
| One, of course, is some kind of attack or national disaster. | ||
| The other is if five major cities have five major riots at one time, the president can push a button. | ||
| That's demonstrably untrue. | ||
| I mean, I don't know who's watching. | ||
| Yeah, I live in Chicago. | ||
| How many years have you spent in Washington? | ||
| Oh, wait a minute. | ||
| How many years have you spent with governors? | ||
| United States Congressman. | ||
| How many years have you done that? | ||
| I have done none of that either. | ||
| I've read a lot of these FEMA documents. | ||
| I've read a lot of those. | ||
| All of those FEMA documents, though, are public information. | ||
| So you're saying that there's a secret set of FEMA documents that we don't know about. | ||
| I'm saying that the FEMA provisional government triggering plan is as real As the chair you're sitting in. | ||
| It's just that real, bud. | ||
| Now, there's a lot of things. | ||
| This just kills me. | ||
| This one kills me. | ||
| Jordan, man. | ||
| And I love you guys. | ||
| Hell, this is fun. | ||
| You know what gets me? | ||
| What gets me is there are people that run around and they say they know this, that, and the other. | ||
| Washington is a city full of secrets. | ||
| Our government is a government full of secrets, and if you, city of Chicago, can go on the Internet, wherever it is you go, I think we're just basing this on things we've read. | ||
| things that we understand. | ||
| And the idea that the president becomes king and all the congresspeople become dukes, it's just very fanciful. | ||
| It doesn't... | ||
| That's not how the world works. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| Why would somebody... | ||
| How much does a congressman now make a year? | ||
| $250,000. | ||
| $250,000, does it make sense to you that somebody would spend $20, $30 million to get that job? | ||
| Well, yeah, all they want is tax cuts for the rich. | ||
| Well, they want the powers, what you're saying. | ||
| Well, and sneaky money that's not in their salary. | ||
| And then you consider all of the parachutes that they're taking on consulting and lobbying jobs later on. | ||
| It's not becoming a duke. | ||
| Yeah, it's not some sort of feudal society that they're trying to build. | ||
| But you see, all of that is muddied up into a whole world that I'm trying to tell people about. | ||
| And I know, Gus and Dan, I know, buddy, when you stand flat-footed, you look at another normal human being, and you tell them about the female provisional government system and plan. | ||
| You don't think, I haven't seen Oswald back in the back of the head. | ||
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You don't think, I don't think they know I'm a nut. | |
| That's a good point. | ||
| I think everybody's pretty aware. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's not easy, guys. | ||
| It's not easy telling what has to be told, what I think has to be told. | ||
| Now, I could be wrong. | ||
| And I'll tell you this. | ||
| It cost me and my family everything to do this. | ||
| You know, when I was with Bill and the Stevens brothers, hey, buddy, it was fat city. | ||
| Bad city. | ||
| Well, then if we're going to talk about the cost of things, would you say that right now part of your income, if not a lot of it, comes down to, you know, people believing what you're saying? | ||
| It comes down to me telling people what I believe, what I know. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's it, man. | ||
| What do you got? | ||
| You got people that buy ads for your program, or you've got people that contribute to your program? | ||
| No, we have jobs. | ||
| They believe you, right? | ||
| We have nine to five jobs and a couple of jack-offs who think we're funny. | ||
| That's what we got, Larry. | ||
| That's all right. | ||
| But there are people. | ||
| What I'm saying is there are people that listen to you. | ||
| There are people that listen to you, and you may be right. | ||
| You may not be, but they believe in you. | ||
| Well, see, that's... | ||
| All I can do, guys, all I can do, Jordan, is tell what I know, and when I tell it, you know what? | ||
| I'm clean. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, then, here's... | ||
| Believe it or you don't. | ||
| Well, then, here's my question, okay? | ||
| If you were afraid of Obama trying to become the last president and then becoming king, essentially, are you not worried about Trump doing that? | ||
| I'm worried about... | ||
| Anybody doing that, you bet your butt. | ||
| Okay, so would you say that Trump is, if Trump, so here's the thing I want to know. | ||
| Knowing what we know about Trump and his actions currently, it seems far more likely that Trump is going to try and pull that off if it is real than Obama ever would. | ||
| Right, because he's not a secret mobile. | ||
| It is within his power to do it, yes. | ||
| And, oh, this is fun. | ||
| within his power. | ||
| But then again, it's within his power as it was Obama, as it would have been Hillary's. | ||
| You know, if he pushed the button for a nuke, it's within his power. | ||
| If I want him to. | ||
| If becoming king is part of the FEMA provisional powers, it stands to reason that FEMA, as it is right now after these hurricanes, we've seen that they don't do the best job necessarily. | ||
| They're not necessarily the most effective organization that we have within our government. | ||
| It seems like them installing a kingship. | ||
| Might be difficult when they can't get supplies where they need to be. | ||
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And then you'd need the support of the military. | |
| True. | ||
| They would have to turn against the entire concept of democracy. | ||
| There is a plan. | ||
| It's called the FEMA Provisional Government Plan. | ||
| It's as real as when I told people that states have rainy day funds. | ||
| So they tell you they're broke, right? | ||
| States tell you they've got nothing. | ||
| But there is a hidden account called a rainy day account, and every state has them. | ||
| I don't know about Illinois State or Chicago. | ||
| We don't know too much about Washington, but we live in Chicago, so we know when people don't have any goddamn money. | ||
| So believe me when I say, if there really were a rainy day fund, we would have gone past it. | ||
| When Mike Huckabee was governor, you know, the preacher of Mike Huckabee, I went all over the state when I was telling people, guys, we're not broke. | ||
| There's a rainy day fund that had like $11 million in it, which is not big, but you're not broke. | ||
| I don't remember what it was. | ||
| Something had to be done. | ||
| He would literally tell the people of Arkansas that there was no such camp. | ||
| It turned out four years later, after he was gone. | ||
| It did come out that we do have a rainy day fund. | ||
| But a rainy day fund is a long way away from having a FEMA provisional government. | ||
| That's very, very different. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| I mean, being a governor is a long distance from being president. | ||
| Apparently it's very close to being a Duke. | ||
| I'm telling you, you know, Washington has secrets that the two of you, 99.9% of the people in this country, do not... | ||
| I'm sure of that. | ||
| I believe that 100%. | ||
| Now, whether you believe me on the FEMA provisional government plan that it does exist, to be quite honest, Jordan and Dan, I don't mean it's ugly towards you, but I don't give two hoots and a tinkers whether you believe me. | ||
| Oh, yeah, no. | ||
| You can curse if you'd like to. | ||
| We say fuck all the time. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| There we go! | ||
| Now we're on board! | ||
| So, here's another question for you, alright? | ||
| When you go on Alex's show, you willingly go along with the whole globalist idea. | ||
| How much of that do you actually believe? | ||
| When I go on with Alex, and Alex Jones has been very good to me over the years. | ||
| When I go on Alex Jones, I talk specifically about the issue that I bring forward. | ||
| I do not go on Alex's view. | ||
| Watch and notice. | ||
| Oh, we do. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| I don't go on Alex and talk about general subjects. | ||
| For example, when he got involved with the story about Pizza Gate, you didn't see me talking about it. | ||
| I don't know about it. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| You lucked out on that one. | ||
| I don't go on. | ||
| Doesn't mean it's not true. | ||
| Doesn't mean it is true. | ||
| I don't talk about it. | ||
| Well, what you did talk about one time was that you believed Hillary Clinton practiced black magic. | ||
| No. | ||
| See, that's where you guys just get a little bit close, but you still miss the cookie. | ||
| What I said was that I made the arrangements out of the state budget, which later, by the way, was backed up publicly. | ||
| Larry Patterson and Roger Perry, two of the state troopers on his security when he was governor. | ||
| Is this that Troopergate stuff? | ||
| I had to arrange for Hillary to go to L.A. once every month, six weeks, whatever. | ||
| I had to arrange the funds for her to go meet with Linda Bloodworth-Thompson, Harry Bloodworth-Thompson. | ||
| From designing women! | ||
| You know, designing women. | ||
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Love it. | |
| It's a great show. | ||
| As we were told, Hillary would go to a witch's church. | ||
| Larry, quick follow-up. | ||
| If you listen to Alex Jones' program closely, you will hear me say, I don't know what they do in a witch's church. | ||
| Quick follow-up. | ||
| Linda Bloodworth Thomas from Designing Women was there. | ||
| Did Delta Burke ever go or Meshach Taylor? | ||
| I'm curious. | ||
| I liked that show when I was a kid. | ||
| Hello? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was just asking if Meshack Taylor ever went to the witch church with Hillary. | ||
| You there? | ||
| You still there? | ||
| I'm sorry about that. | ||
| We're having a little bit of an issue. | ||
| It's just on my phone. | ||
| So, really, really quick. | ||
| I mean, here's my last question to you. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Let me answer one thing, Jordan, before you do that. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Jordan, did you hear me mention Linda Bloodworth Thomason's name and say she and Hillary went to a witch's church? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Do you not think if I were Linda Bloodworth Thomason and some idiot named Larry Nichols? | ||
| Was making such a direct statement about me, don't you think they might want to sue me to get me to stop defaming them? | ||
| No, because that would just cause more attention to come your way. | ||
| That's not a good argument. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I think that's probably, they might have better uses of their time. | ||
| In the same way, Larry, you did threaten to blackmail Congress recently, and no one's going to sue you for that. | ||
| So they, I mean, Congress people... | ||
| Congress people have much better uses of their time than hunting down these sort of lawsuits that probably could be won based on it being very... | ||
| Can I give you a better picture of why they won't sue me? | ||
| Because you're going to blackmail them? | ||
| No, because of discovery. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Do you mean the information that you would otherwise use to blackmail them would then become public? | ||
| Yes, it would. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Larry, Larry, Larry, if that argument worked, no one would ever get charged with blackmail. | ||
| Hey, I'll tell you what, Daniel. | ||
| Daniel, you and Jordan. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Here's something you can do, and I'll make a commitment right now. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| When we get close, and when we come to the time that the Robert Mueller gets his grand jury, You did also threaten to blackmail him. | ||
| and ask for an impeachment when they try that. | ||
| Like they're witches? | ||
| Alright. | ||
| And I don't destroy them. | ||
| I mean, destroy him bad, but he's bad. | ||
| Then I will come on this program, and y 'all can have the time of your life just laughing at me. | ||
| I think we have a misunderstanding of what our goals are, and I think... | ||
| But be that as it may, Larry, thank you for talking to us. | ||
| I think we've got to get a move on with stuff, but we really appreciate your time. | ||
| It does mean a lot. | ||
| Well, thank you guys, and I'm sorry. | ||
| You're just fine. | ||
| Alrighty, you have a good night. | ||
| Alright, so guys, we are now post-call. | ||
| Fucking fuck that dude! | ||
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And he really believes all of that bullshit! | |
| Fuck me! | ||
| And the issue becomes, too, like... | ||
| So much stuff is completely undisprovable, and that whole idea of you had to be there in the wild 70s in Arkansas. | ||
| Oh yeah, you don't know what it was like. | ||
| In the 70s, people were blackmailing people all over the fucking place. | ||
| And you couldn't do cocaine in the South. | ||
| Look, there's all that sort of stuff, and it's like, alright, fine, that's the narrative that you want to tell. | ||
| I obviously wasn't in the 70s in Arkansas, but it's very difficult to get around the idea that you were a functionary, low-level ad man, and then you got put in charge of drug-running and gun-running operations in Nicaragua, and the youngest president ever's handler. | ||
| And his rebuttal to that is just, well... | ||
| Okay, so... | ||
| Do you know what's crazy? | ||
| The guy who wrote Ba-da-ba-ba-ba? | ||
| I'm loving it. | ||
| He is in charge of North Korean spy operations right now. | ||
| Yeah, he's deep cover. | ||
| Fucking... | ||
| Well, but here's the thing. | ||
| I think, and I want to say this to the chat room, please don't ever ask us to call him again. | ||
| That was fucking bullshit. | ||
| I'm pissed off. | ||
| It's really difficult for me to handle, too, because the way our phone and mic system is working, that, you know, it's just... | ||
| It's difficult for me to get involved and Larry just loves to fucking talk. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I couldn't really get anything in and there's like follow-ups and rebuttals I would have liked to make and it's just incredibly difficult. | ||
| There's no way his timeline works out in terms of... | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| In terms of stuff that I know he was doing after he got fired from the Clinton's campaign, there's literally no way any of that stuff matches up. | ||
| He started working with a guy named Larry Case and trying to sell stories about these women. | ||
| To tabloid papers. | ||
| Larry Case recorded all of his conversations and gave them to the press after he and Larry Nichols had a huge falling out. | ||
| I will put a link up later to a Salon article about this. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| You're never going to get what you want out of a phone call like that. | ||
| And not least of which, my biggest issue there is... | ||
| We just let him ramble, and that might not be the best thing ever, but I got a little bit of a cold. | ||
| I was really hoping that sooner or later he would drop the facade. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because he can't fucking keep doing that. | ||
| We know it's not true. | ||
| He genuinely believes that, though. | ||
| So I guess, of course, there's no point in doing that shit. | ||
| He's a slimy... | ||
| Piece of shit who clearly killed people in Nicaragua or whatever the fuck he wants to believe. | ||
| Well, but also if you have like 30 years of follow-up or 30 years of building in this narrative, then it's going to be very difficult for you to give it up at any point. | ||
| I think that you just live inside that now. | ||
| And I don't want to say that he's crazy or anything like that. | ||
| That's not my interest. | ||
| I do, he's crazy. | ||
| I obviously don't believe most of that. | ||
| And now your name is Justin, apparently, in the chat room. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| So now, after that's out of the way... | ||
| Alright, listen, Justin. | ||
| So now that's out of the way, let's get to the episode. | ||
| Now that we have a thoroughly unsatisfying interview with that piece of shit. | ||
| Yeah, it's a little blue ballsy, but I'm glad we did it. | ||
| And I wish we would have pushed a little bit harder, but it is what it is. | ||
| That's why I told you you should have. | ||
| It's always going to be difficult when you're having a conversation with someone who is pretty well versed in marketing and propaganda. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Has a lot of experience in it. | ||
| Did you see the way he kept trying to butter us up the same way that he fucking always... | ||
| Listen, I love you guys, and you can believe what you want to believe. | ||
| And the appeal to ignorance is always not very... | ||
| It's a roadblock. | ||
| It's like, how long have you been in Washington? | ||
| I don't believe you've been there much. | ||
| But at the same time, you know, it is what it is. | ||
| The idea that you go from a fucking jingle business to a huge player in Nicaragua is fucking bananas. | ||
| Yeah, the only way I buy that is with quite a bit more detail that's been left out. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| We delivered hard rice and soft rice, which is, like, my guess is that is something that he heard or read one time in a mystery novel. | ||
| And he was like, no, it's in my narrative. | ||
| Hanging out with a VFW hall. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Alright, so here's the first clip from today's show. | ||
| We don't have a whole lot. | ||
| We're not going too deep into the episode, but I just pulled some stuff. | ||
| It was a boring show. | ||
| Alex is just on a whole big, hey, I've been totally right about Las Vegas. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's just claiming responsibility for being right about everything. | ||
| Because it turns out that the Mandalay Bay, the hotel, And | ||
| one of the reasons is because... | ||
| Seems unsafe. | ||
| And the idea that he shot a security guard in six minutes elapsed and then he starts shooting everybody, that only feeds into that collapse spiral that the business is going into. | ||
| It's in their best interest to say that they don't agree with the narrative, even if they have no evidence that that's the case. | ||
| That's their best PR move. | ||
| Alex is just fucking... | ||
| Anyway, here's a clip where we're going to start about Harvey Weinstein and how he's into scat. | ||
| I mean, I said earlier in the week that Weinstein guaranteed like to humiliate women. | ||
| Now, that's what they're all like in Hollywood. | ||
| It's not a crystal ball. | ||
| It's like once you realize these types, I used to read a lot of historical books when I was a teenager. | ||
| And I read some criminology books, not just Pulp Fiction, but some serious ones about how the police obsessive on profiling. | ||
| And I used to think, oh, people are more diverse than that. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| Nice people are diverse in the things they do. | ||
| Not criminals, psychopaths, and others. | ||
| There's like maybe 15 different types, and man, you just learn the groups, the types, and it's like how a wild hog acts, how a white-tailed deer acts, how a puma acts, how a moose acts, how a squirrel acts, how a buzzard acts, how a fox acts. | ||
| And you just... | ||
| Well, you are how? | ||
| How a Hollywood executive pedophile devil worshiper acts? | ||
| You see, they want to humiliate children and innocence. | ||
| Well, young, beautiful women, it's not about putting them on a pedestal. | ||
| It's about, you know, using the bathroom on the floor and making them eat it. | ||
| Oh, you want that starring rule? | ||
| You want 20 million? | ||
| Call me God. | ||
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Get on the ground and call that God. | |
| I'm Harvey Weinstein. | ||
| You're not just going to worship me. | ||
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You're going to worship what I do on the ground. | |
| You understand? | ||
| Listen. | ||
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Listen! | |
| You've done that before. | ||
| You're going to go with us to a little cabin in the woods next weekend and see what we really do. | ||
| Because now that you're into this and you do this, you're going to see what we really do. | ||
| You think it's just broads? | ||
| Fake laugh. | ||
| Fake laugh. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he's really enjoying that too much. | ||
| You know, playing that character. | ||
| You're gonna watch me shit. | ||
| I mean, Harvey Weinstein did some awful, awful stuff. | ||
| At least he didn't defend him this time. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's a nice twist. | ||
| At least he's like, hey, it is bad whenever women are mistreated. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Except he's more like... | ||
| It's only bad whenever Hollywood people mistreat women. | ||
| Well, no, but even in that clip, he's still doing that thing that he's been doing, which is the, like, it's not about putting them on a pedestal. | ||
| It's almost as if he believes, like, if you just make them come, everything will be fine. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| It's almost that, like, version of misogyny that he's expressing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's fucking wild. | ||
| You could treat them that poorly so long as you're, like, worshipping them at the same time. | ||
| Right, which is not creepy at all. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| So that clip, he's getting real creepy and talking about worshipping poop and what have you. | ||
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| Which makes me real thrilled to learn what we learn in this next clip about Alex's audience. | ||
| Like my children. | ||
| They go, if everyone hates Trump so much, why did he get elected? | ||
| And I said to my oldest daughter yesterday, I said, 13-year-old sweetheart, I said, sweetheart, that's the old corporate media. | ||
| I said, do you watch Jimmy Kimmel? | ||
| No, who's that? | ||
| Do you watch CNN? | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, do you watch any of that? | ||
| She goes, no. | ||
| I go, what do you watch? | ||
| She goes, well, you. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And I said, who do people watch at your school? | ||
| Well, you. | ||
| I mean, I go to her school, and this isn't about me bragging. | ||
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| Like, every grade, and then across the street, the high schoolers see me, and it's like, it's Alex Jones, and I don't want to do this on camera, because Hollywood stages stuff where people run up with paparazzi. | ||
| That started in the 20s. | ||
| They would stage cameras and newspapers there to make it look like they were news to get other news to pile on. | ||
| But I can literally go out and walk in front of a high school in Austin when it lets out, and I will be mobbed with people wanting photos and autographs and people. | ||
| I was just listening to you. | ||
| They're not watching Angelina Jolie or Morgan Freeman. | ||
| And again, I'm not even bragging. | ||
| I'm more famous than Angelina Jolie and Morgan Freeman. | ||
| Well, he also always says Morgan Freeman. | ||
| So that might be another guy. | ||
| That could be. | ||
| It could be, yeah. | ||
| I'm not bragging twice, which probably means... | ||
| I feel self-conscious about how hard I'm bragging right now. | ||
| And it's not true. | ||
| I love the, like, look, I'm not gonna get a camera and prove that kids mob me everywhere I go. | ||
| And, dude, if you're gonna be talking about, like, you know, Harvey Weinstein shitting on the floor and then making snuff films with ladies, you should not have 12-year-olds listening to that. | ||
| That's awful. | ||
| Even us critiquing and breaking down what he talks about. | ||
| I don't want 12-year-olds listening to this. | ||
| I'd be horrified if I went to a school and everyone's like, Dan! | ||
| Like, no. | ||
| Get away! | ||
| We gotta teach them young. | ||
| How else do we get them, wean them off the scat play? | ||
| Right. | ||
| They have the internet now. | ||
| We gotta explain that it's bad before it goes any further. | ||
| Someone made a good point in the chat room. | ||
| It was our friend Nicky Gifts that it's shocking that he can still talk to his kids at this point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the beginning of the clip explains some of the things he's gotta go through. | ||
| Well, they weren't allowed to use clips of the show in the trial. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If that were to occur... | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| It's court ordered that I go to psychology meetings every two weeks with my daughters. | ||
| I mean, I don't have to go, but they go. | ||
| Don't fucking sell out your kids like that. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| I don't have to go. | ||
| I'm perfect. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with me. | ||
| It's the kids. | ||
| They definitely don't focus more on me and my rampant, malignant narcissism. | ||
| The horrible things that I put everyone around me through. | ||
| And it's turned out okay overall. | ||
| I had a contested divorce. | ||
| That's part of the system, and that's what happened. | ||
| But, I mean, here's an example. | ||
| I walked into the psychology place yesterday at 4 o 'clock. | ||
| Psychology place. | ||
| There's a family walking out of some of the other psychology offices. | ||
| He shakes my hand. | ||
| He's got a young daughter and a son. | ||
| Hey, I love the show. | ||
| Just listened to the other day. | ||
| Love David Knight. | ||
| Okay, thanks. | ||
| Already not true. | ||
| Is that why they're in the psychology place? | ||
| They're like, whoa, our dad. | ||
| Loves Alex Jones' show. | ||
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| He loves David Knight, is what he said. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| Which is the dead ringer that this story is not true. | ||
| No one brings that up in public. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| I go sit down. | ||
| My daughters are inside for an hour. | ||
| Before they're about to come out, a 15-year-old girl comes in, sits down. | ||
| I don't say anything to her because she's unaccompanied. | ||
| Sitting there waiting on my daughter's playing on the phone, sending texts, doing news, researching. | ||
| No. | ||
| And then her mom walks in. | ||
| And she looks at me. | ||
| She looks at her phone. | ||
| She goes, I'm listening to Owen Troyer right now on this app. | ||
| That is... | ||
| Not true. | ||
| That is the Nicaragua of lies right there. | ||
| But I think what he's doing is he's trying to get subtle plugs out for the other shows that are on his network now. | ||
| David Knight has the morning show. | ||
| Owen Troyer has the drive time. | ||
| And so I think that's what he's doing. | ||
| This is all a subtle pitch. | ||
| That whole, like, I didn't talk to the 15-year-old girl because she was unaccompanied. | ||
| I respect that. | ||
| I'm a predator. | ||
| Nah, I support that. | ||
| I support that. | ||
| Leave people alone in public. | ||
| No, I'm fine with leaving her alone, but the unaccompanied part is where it's like, and if she had somebody there, I would have been like, it's time to play. | ||
| It's less weird if you talk to someone in public if they're not alone. | ||
| You know, I think that's definitely true. | ||
| So, I don't... | ||
| It's weird that that comes up in his very not true story. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But it is... | ||
| It's not... | ||
| I don't think it's wrong. | ||
| It's just a strange part of your fantasy life, Alex. | ||
| But it's something I've never seen. | ||
| It's like a blue InfoWars square. | ||
| She goes, it's incredible. | ||
| And she said, you know, all my neighbors are listening now. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Again, I'm not bragging, folks. | ||
| Third time. | ||
| I'm just saying they know they're dead. | ||
| And I'm not saying we're the future or we're cool or we've got red carpets. | ||
| That's all stupid. | ||
| The point is they are the past. | ||
| They know they've collapsed. | ||
| They know they're a joke. | ||
| He's basically saying that he's the future while saying... | ||
| Hey, listen. | ||
| I'm not saying we're the future. | ||
| I'm just saying everybody else is in the past. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Do you think he can go even further with this? | ||
| I believe that he can. | ||
| So he started with saying his kids listen to the show. | ||
| Then he went to all the kids at their school listen to the show. | ||
| Everyone listens to the show. | ||
| Now I'm at doctor's offices and people can't tell me how much they love InfoWars enough. | ||
| It just keeps going. | ||
| And yeah, you can keep going. | ||
| It turns out there's even more groups of people who listen to him. | ||
| If you're Trump, or you're these folks, you know new media is bigger than mainstream media, but still what you read is the New York Times, and so that still is what matters to you. | ||
| But that's almost over, folks. | ||
| That generation's almost gone. | ||
| And they're great people. | ||
| I'm not glad to say it. | ||
| But the statistics show what I just told you. | ||
| And it's not just that some of my children go to one particular school, so they watch and listen there. | ||
| I also don't think... | ||
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Is that like the school from Fame, but for InfoWars? | |
| Like, they're all dancing down the street, and then they're like, The world is falling apart, and there are chimeras all over the place! | ||
| No, I mean, that would be fun. | ||
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I'd watch that show. | |
| That would be fun. | ||
| I would watch that movie so fast. | ||
| But I think what the reality is is he's... | ||
| Breaking two electric InfoWars. | ||
| He's come up with a lie, and that is that all the kids at my kid's school listen to the show. | ||
| And he's dumb, so the first rebuttal he could come up with is, oh, my kids go there, so they must watch it all at school. | ||
| Like, in the classes and shit. | ||
| Because my kids go there, so I must rebut that dumb rebuttal, as opposed to being like, not a chance. | ||
| I mean, there's just not a chance that's even... | ||
| Also, if you were Alex Jones' kids, there is no way that you would want people at your school to know you were Alex Jones' kids. | ||
| No way! | ||
| No, I would... | ||
| Look... | ||
| It was bad enough being me in high school, let alone being Alex Jones' kid. | ||
| My mom was the computer teacher at my elementary school, and it was brutal. | ||
| Mine was the music teacher at my elementary school. | ||
| I can't imagine. | ||
| Your dad is the guy who screams about all kinds of eating shits. | ||
| Yeah, bring your dad to school day must have been a fucking terrifying experience. | ||
| Well, he's either a delight in person or it's a tragedy everywhere. | ||
| I don't know what the reality is. | ||
| But anyway, he's not done. | ||
| There are more groups of people who listen. | ||
| Young people, when they see me at the mall or wherever, literally their mouths hang open and they go, it's the living me. | ||
| Trendies. | ||
| Old people. | ||
| Black folks. | ||
| Hispanics. | ||
| Executive class Hispanics. | ||
| Hispanic guys. | ||
| You know, five guys walking through at the mall. | ||
| We love you so much. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| It's all groups. | ||
| Because they know this year's as close to reality as you're going to get. | ||
| No. | ||
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Okay. | |
| We got Hispanics. | ||
| We got executive class Hispanics. | ||
| We've even got business class Hispanics. | ||
| We got first class. | ||
| But let me tell you something. | ||
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None of that priority boarding bullshit. | |
| They're trendies and globalists, my friend. | ||
| He's got kids at the mall slack-jawed that they're seeing the living meme in person. | ||
| Un-fucking-real. | ||
| He's really projecting pretty hard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, he talks quite a bit about Weinstein and what have you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then he drops this gem on us, which is a little bit too long for me to have been an out-of-context drop, but I wish it would have been, because this is fucking, this is delightful. | ||
| It's an act of domination. | ||
| An act of control. | ||
| Lennon Baines Johnson, this is on record, and Pulitzer Prize-winning books, would hold cabinet meetings. | ||
| While he took extended, incredibly stench-filled dumps. | ||
| And he did it to dominate people. | ||
| That is true. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah. | |
| It's 100% true. | ||
| 100% true. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He nicknamed his dick Jumbo. | ||
| Full disclosure, I do a bit about Lyndon Baines Johnson. | ||
| Yeah, BJ sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, he passed the Civil Rights Act as well as Medicare. | ||
| Yeah, but it also wasn't the same thing as what Weinstein did. | ||
| No! | ||
| There's subtle differences to holding cabinet meetings while you're taking a shit and forcing women to do shit. | ||
| Our presidents have been almost universally garbage. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| It takes an insane mind to draw oneself towards thinking you deserve power. | ||
| Much smarter people than me have said this, but it should be... | ||
| Anybody who wants to be president should never be allowed to be president. | ||
| And anybody who wants to do the things that Larry Nichols does, it's indicative that there's something wrong with you. | ||
| So this is a little bit more about Lyndon Baines Johnson, and then we've got to get to a failed prediction that I made last night. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And that's all Hollywood is and the NFL and... | ||
| Kaepernick and all these super uncool people. | ||
| LeBron James and Eminem all getting together. | ||
| The same headline everywhere. | ||
| A fierce attack. | ||
| I saw it in just headlines everywhere. | ||
| A fierce attack by Eminem. | ||
| Just some pathetic corporate shill with LeBron James. | ||
| So, I texted you, I think this morning, and I predicted that half of the show would be about Eminem and how he's a race traitor, but, like, veiled language. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was off, man. | ||
| He barely talks about Eminem. | ||
| Barely talks about Eminem? | ||
| Yeah, and I feel like it's... | ||
| Well, he's worried that Eminem is going to challenge him to a freestyle rap battle, and Alex? | ||
| I'm not bragging. | ||
| What about those TVs, bitch? | ||
| The thing is, I was hoping he'd bring up Eminem because I wanted to talk about him a little bit. | ||
| First of all, I think Eminem is pretty great in many ways, especially in the context of D12. | ||
| I think D12 is amazing stuff. | ||
| I knew you would bring up D12. | ||
| Horrorcore rap is great, that stuff, and the grave diggers and stuff like that, where they set out intentionally to freak out white people as a part of the genre. | ||
|
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I love it. | |
| My future Wolfgang Killed Them All was a relative descendant of that. | ||
| I didn't like that as much, but yeah. | ||
| Be that as it may, I like a lot of that stuff. | ||
| I do respect a lot of Eminem's work. | ||
| Listen, Earl Sweatshirt is great, though. | ||
| I don't disagree. | ||
| But be that as it may, that video that Eminem dropped, I gotta say, he's not great. | ||
| I appreciate the text, the context and the subject matter. | ||
| I think that's great. | ||
| I think he's saying something that is great, because there should be more celebrities coming out and being like, fuck off. | ||
| If you support this... | ||
| You cannot possibly support what I'm into. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's great, but man, he was weak on the bars. | ||
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It was not good. | |
| In the video of him, like, him pacing around, it's very produced, and then everyone, like, all these dumbasses on Twitter posting, like, oh my god, that freestyle was sick. | ||
| I'm like, he didn't freestyle that shit. | ||
| I've heard Eminem freestyle, like... | ||
| Crazy before. | ||
| He's very good at it. | ||
| If he was doing it, if he was actually off the dome, as they say, it would have been so much better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It would have been amazing. | ||
| But that was very, very rehearsed. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And rehearsed to make it seem extemporaneous. | ||
| And I thought it was whack. | ||
| I didn't watch it just because I was like, I don't want to A, be a part of this, and B, be the guy who's like, I didn't like it. | ||
| Like, I don't want any part of that. | ||
| Get this. | ||
| I was taking a shit last night, and I needed something to watch. | ||
| I'm like, oh, this is all over Twitter. | ||
| And the Joint Chiefs of Staff were watching you. | ||
| A power move. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But be that as it may, I still support him. | ||
| I support the message. | ||
| I just think it was weak in terms of actual rapping. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just need that to be clear. | ||
| Anyway, back to the clip. | ||
| Dumb zombies that still think it's cool. | ||
| Yeah, there's still a big component of schmucks that go spend their money on that and think it's all cool. | ||
| But it's not the young people anymore. | ||
| They're like, Dad, I don't want to go see a Harrison Ford movie. | ||
| I don't want your life. | ||
| I don't want to see a Harrison Ford movie. | ||
| He was really excited about the new Blade Runner. | ||
| He got tickets and wanted me and my son to go. | ||
| And I said, Dad, I'm going to work. | ||
| I don't want to go. | ||
| He went and picked my son up. | ||
| And my son said to his grandfather, he said, let's just go over to your house and swim in your pool with Grandma and maybe play cards or something. | ||
| I don't want to go see a Hollywood movie. | ||
| Oh, you don't want to go see a two-hour and 40-minute sequel to a movie you didn't see? | ||
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He didn't want to watch Hollywood. | |
| Give three more things he doesn't want to watch. | ||
| Lyndon Baines Johnson shit. | ||
| I actually would like to see it. | ||
| What you talked over there a little bit was him being like, I didn't have to tell my son that. | ||
| He's a correspondent on Infowars sometimes. | ||
| You've raised him to be a dick like you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he kind of did. | ||
| Also, I don't know. | ||
| Maybe that Blade Runner movie is good. | ||
|
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I don't know. | |
| I haven't seen it. | ||
| I want to see it. | ||
|
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Yeah, who cares? | |
| I love Blade Runner. | ||
| So today on the show, Alex Jones takes a lot of calls. | ||
| Comparatively. | ||
| It's still not many calls. | ||
| But compared to his normal rigmarole, he's taken quite a few calls. | ||
| One of them is trying to lure him into talking shit on the Jews by saying, are the globalists actually the Kazarians? | ||
| And Alex sort of fumbles around with that question about, like, well, actually, primeval Georgia. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He does fine. | ||
| But the best call is a guy... | ||
| Who makes Alex remember that he, a long time ago, said he was going to make a music show. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Wait, that was brought up again? | ||
| Yeah, because we know this from MC Daffy Duck who called in. | ||
| That was brutal. | ||
| And so now this comes back up after this call. | ||
| I produce music, basically. | ||
|
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You can call it InfoWars or Patriot Music. | |
| What does that mean? | ||
| What's Infowars music? | ||
|
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I want some of those pants that nobody knows what size they're gonna be. | |
| Muslims in public freak me out. | ||
| And I have been for about the last four years. | ||
| I work with a friend of mine that's a Nashville staff writer here in Omaha. | ||
| And that's basically the feedback that I've gotten from him is he doesn't want to touch it with a 10-foot pole. | ||
| I would argue that it's possible that your music sucks. | ||
| And he's being polite. | ||
| I'm just going to guess. | ||
| I mean, that's possible. | ||
| All conservative art sucks. | ||
| It's just part of being a conservative. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Because, you know, of the potential. | |
| And now with them shutting down Facebook and your opportunity to be able to promote your music personally. | ||
| They're not. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| We got the whole evil mainstream media Hollywood globalist cabal on our back, brother. | ||
| But here's the deal. | ||
| Once we're awake and we know they're on our back, just like a buck and bronco or a bull, They're not going to stay on our back forever. | ||
| They can hold on for dear life, but they're never going to make the full eight seconds they want. | ||
| But send me some information at showtipsinfowars.com. | ||
| I'm more and more. | ||
| Millie Weaver had this idea. | ||
| I do have this idea years ago as well. | ||
| Smart folks have the same ideas. | ||
| To have some music shows specifically to highlight independent new music. | ||
| The problem is you run into their producers and then other stuff, and it's a minefield. | ||
| This guy does not have a producer. | ||
| So anything that's kind of Hollywood-y, and I appreciate your call, Kenny, just gets a little weird. | ||
| And so that's why it's hard for us to ever promote stuff or get involved. | ||
| But I'm sure you're great. | ||
| But there's so much great Patriot music online. | ||
| And a lot of it gets millions of views, millions of listens. | ||
| It just doesn't get Hollywood recognition. | ||
| But you don't need that. | ||
| If you're playing to a crowd of 100 people about the truth... | ||
| And sell 5,000 songs or DVDs or CCDs. | ||
| 5,000 songs? | ||
| But it is about everybody supporting the media that they think is helping the world. | ||
| Just like InfoWars. | ||
| 50% off right now on our great brain pill. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And pivot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's amazing. | ||
| So I have... | ||
| Two more clips that are him manipulating his audience pretty hard. | ||
| And then I have one last clip that's delightful. | ||
| So in these next clips, it's really important that we've watched through Alex's journey in 2015 where he comes to identify with Trump. | ||
| Where Trump becomes interlocked with his goals and where he's going in life. | ||
| and now you can see in 2017 he's really desperately trying to do that to his audience and you can hear it in this clip and remember when they say Donald Trump they mean you and I'm not trying to get you to identify yourself personally as No, no, no. | ||
| That's manipulative nonsense. | ||
| They think fake billionaire liar who is the sociopath who's trying to get us all killed. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| And when you see NRA, you don't think gun owner. | ||
| No, you think mass shootings. | ||
| Well, and you think a lobbying agency that is making those more likely. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Well, what makes them more money than mass shootings? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, that's the reality of it. | ||
| Of course the NRA wants mass shootings to continue to happen. | ||
| They make a shit ton of money when they do. | ||
| Yeah, and so in this next clip, the identification, A means B, gets even worse. | ||
| The globalists have taken down most groups, and now there's one bastion halfway left. | ||
| In the globalists' mind, in Hollywood's mind, and that's... | ||
| The Midwest. | ||
| And they say it's white because they want to get people to fight with each other, but it's just, they mean Christian. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| So yeah. | ||
| White means Christian. | ||
| I think he's saying what he means. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Or what things mean to him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But you've got to look at it in the reverse. | ||
| Christian means white to him. | ||
| White means Christian. | ||
| Middle America means white Christian. | ||
| Normal Trump means white Christian. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But they can be black white people. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| We have evidence that there is at least one black-white person. | ||
| I completely fucked up. | ||
| What? | ||
| There was a clip I meant to pull, and I didn't get it. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| There was one caller, this lady called in, and straight up, she said, hey, you know what, Obama, he had a chance to bring the country together. | ||
| Why didn't they play up more that he was half-white? | ||
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I was like, oh no! | |
| Yeah, it was amazing. | ||
|
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I was like, lady, you are missing it, but fascinatingly. | |
| So wait, her idea is that by his being biracial, that's how he could have done it. | ||
| If they had played up, he is both black and white. | ||
| Like a Michael Jackson video. | ||
| Or played it more up that he was half white. | ||
| Don't call him half black. | ||
| Let's call him half white. | ||
| I'm one of you white people. | ||
| Right, right, yeah. | ||
| Trust me, I'm half white. | ||
| Yeah, that's what she wanted him to do. | ||
| There's definitely no historical precedent for a mixed race person to be judged as horribly as someone who is otherwise entirely black. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's nonsense, and that's sort of indicative of the calls he gets. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| Another person called in and was like, hey, I first became exposed to you from the Rogan podcast, and I just saw that you really do have sources. | ||
| You're really smart. | ||
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You're on top of it. | |
| Oh, fuck you, Joe Rogan! | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Jesus fucking Christ! | ||
| Yep, makes it very clear. | ||
| Anyway, I'm exhausted. | ||
| Let's get this last clip in here. | ||
| That Larry Nichols interview fucking exhausted me. | ||
| Yeah, I know, right? | ||
| It made me very frustrated. | ||
| I know! | ||
| But here we go, the last clip. | ||
| Alex talks about something that, I don't know, I think I spent a lot of time in my youth. | ||
| I think he's recontextualizing them in an interesting way. | ||
| Do you mean Alex Jones' Grandpa Poole? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Support the good little church that's telling the truth, not the big mega one that looks so nice and makes you feel so good. | ||
| There's all these neat people to meet. | ||
| I mean, all these big megachurches are swinger clubs. | ||
| You know that, right? | ||
| You want to go pick a woman up, just like that, go to a megachurch. | ||
| You want to go swinging, it's where you go. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| Folks, I'm not saying that to be mean. | ||
| Everybody that goes to them knows that. | ||
| Or they're stupid. | ||
| Support the good little churches telling the truth. | ||
| I love that at the end. | ||
| Everyone knows that. | ||
| Or they're stupid. | ||
| You gotta go. | ||
| I didn't know if I wanted to swing. | ||
| I could just go to a megachurch. | ||
| I did not see that coming. | ||
| I went to a megachurch growing up, and I will tell you it was not a swingers club. | ||
| It was just nonstop fucking. | ||
| No, I mean, some of the kids were finger-banging and stuff, but... | ||
| Well, what kids aren't finger-banging? | ||
| Me. | ||
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Hey, if you're not finger-banging, you're stupid. | |
| I was stupid growing up. | ||
| So anyway, that brings us to the end of this episode. | ||
| I don't feel like I got what I wanted out of that interview, but I also went in expecting that would be the case. | ||
| Yeah, I suppose that all I was really hoping for was to get him to drop that bullshit for just a second. | ||
| Just one second of just him stopping and thinking for a moment. | ||
| But he's so good at just like... | ||
| Just fucking rolling with it. | ||
| If you don't believe me, that's on you. | ||
| If you don't believe me, that's on you. | ||
| I don't need to follow up with anything. | ||
| And the details are too thick. | ||
| There's just so many little points. | ||
| There's a whole celestial sphere made up of these little names and little details that there's no piercing it. | ||
| I did like finding out that he actually thinks he was the leader of a Nicaraguan drug-running scam. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| Or gun-runners. | ||
| I also like that he refused to answer if Meshack Taylor was involved in the church. | ||
| He did not want to do that. | ||
| No. | ||
| He loves Meshack. | ||
| Maybe that's too hot. | ||
| He loves Meshack. | ||
| You can't come at Meshack. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, thank you all for listening and joining along with us. | ||
| Please stop telling us to call Larry Nichols. | ||
| We will try and find other people's phone numbers. | ||
| You can see how unsatisfying that was. | ||
| It's fun to talk to him for about three minutes and him be like, I gotta go. | ||
| It's not fun to talk to him for 40. No. | ||
| Anyway, we do thank you all. | ||
| We appreciate it very much. | ||
| You guys joining us along here on the Twitch. | ||
| Also, everybody who's listening to this later, you can find us at knowledgefight.com. | ||
| That is our website. | ||
| You can go to Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And we have a Facebook page. | ||
|
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Uh-huh. | |
| What was the other thing that we do? | ||
| Oh, we're on iTunes. | ||
| We are. | ||
| You can download it. | ||
| You can subscribe to it. | ||
| You can leave a review. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And generally, Monday through Thursday at 8 p.m. Central, we're here live on Twitch. | ||
| But this Thursday, tomorrow, we will not be broadcasting because I am going to friend of the show, Matt Riggs' wedding. | ||
| Congratulations, Matt Riggs! | ||
|
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Indeed. | |
| Congratulations. | ||
| But we'll be back next week with some fun. | ||
| We'll try and find Paul Joseph Watson's phone number. | ||
| No, we won't. | ||
| No, I don't ever want to talk to him. | ||
| And I don't really want to talk to Alex either because it would just turn into him and me shouting at each other. | ||
| Yeah, you'd just bark at him. | ||
| So you guys can stop that chant. | ||
| Either that or me saying, give three more examples. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I'd be like, Alex. | ||
| Alex. | ||
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Alex. | |
| I don't give two hoots of a rat's balls. | ||
| Alex. | ||
| Alex will be on this podcast by the time I'm a duck. | ||
| If it walks like a duck and that angel doesn't have wings. | ||
| So we'd like to thank Larry Nichols for taking time out of his day. | ||
| We do appreciate that. | ||
| Nah, fuck him. | ||
| No, there's another guy who's got to fuck off. | ||
| It's this toothless son of a bitch who won't give us a call and talk for 40 minutes. | ||
| Oh, shit, man. | ||
| We gotta talk to his bullshit ass. | ||
| It's fucking fine. | ||
| Fucking Rappaport's number. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That can't be that hard. | ||
| Howard. | ||
| I got a little cold. | ||
| It's actually written on the back of that picture. | ||
| That's why he'll never hang it up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Call Dan and Jordan. | ||
| So, you know, John Rappaport sucks. | ||
| You know who I really think is at fault? | ||
| For this whole thing right here. | ||
| This whole interview with Larry Nichols. | ||
| Larry Nichols, after I talked to him earlier in the day, he gave this guy a call and he was like, what do I say? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And this guy was like, you just lie your balls off. | ||
| Just keep talking. | ||
| Directly to their fucking faces. | ||
| Just keep talking. | ||
| Just keep on lying to them. | ||
| So that means I have one thing to say. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Go fuck yourself, John Rappaport! | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |