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#89: December 31, 2015

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about how Alex Jones ended his broadcast year in 2015. As it turns out, he closes out the year with an interview with Dan's #2 Favorite Crazy, a very bigoted preacher by the name of Rev. James David Manning. 

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alex jones
07:44
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dan friesen
50:04
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jordan holmes
26:35
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pastor david manning
16:13
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alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
Today, there's a twist.
jordan holmes
Is there a twist to it?
dan friesen
There is.
jordan holmes
Is there today specifically?
dan friesen
Yeah, we're both a little bit hungover.
jordan holmes
We're very hungover.
dan friesen
We went out, had a few drinks last night, and played Scrabble at a bar.
jordan holmes
It was...
You were a hit.
Oh, well, I had been secretly dosed with weed Rice Krispie treats.
dan friesen
That may or may not be true.
I have my suspicions that you're lying.
jordan holmes
I'm not lying.
Regardless of...
I don't know.
I'm not lying.
dan friesen
You were a huge hit, though, because you had to go get your own board, your own Scrabble board.
jordan holmes
It turns out if you walk around with your own Scrabble board, people will not stop talking to you.
dan friesen
Everyone was telling you how cool you were.
jordan holmes
I know!
It's super weird.
dan friesen
Also, for those interested, Jordan did beat me by, I think, five points.
jordan holmes
Something like that.
Some small number.
dan friesen
It made me furious.
jordan holmes
You didn't like...
dan friesen
Very unhappy about it.
jordan holmes
It wasn't that I lost...
It was that you didn't like my words.
dan friesen
I thought that your gameplay was possibly overly defensive.
Some of your words were shit.
I was working to open up the board for the possibilities that we could collaboratively make words.
jordan holmes
I don't understand how people...
That's the way my girlfriend plays it too.
Like, let's open the board.
Let's get creative.
No!
It's a game!
dan friesen
See, you're a capitalist, man.
jordan holmes
It's a game.
dan friesen
You're a capitalist.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
I'm more of an anarcho-scrabble capitalist.
dan friesen
Speaking of capitalism, I'd like to give a shout-out.
jordan holmes
Your transitions are incredible.
dan friesen
I'd like to give a shout-out to a very special policy wonk.
This is someone who was donating and upped their donation.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
I'd like to give a big shout-out and a thank you to you, Heather.
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Heather, thank you very much.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Congratulations.
jordan holmes
That's my favorite thing that's ever happened.
dan friesen
It's so great.
jordan holmes
The best thing that's ever happened.
dan friesen
So a little bit of housekeeping here, just really quick.
Because, I mean, we talked about this not mattering right before we recorded, but I'm still self-conscious about it.
So we have an episode that's going to drop at the end of the week that I intended to drop at the beginning of the week, but I switched them.
So if you get a little bit confused by that, don't worry about it.
Everything's cool.
But today...
jordan holmes
But we're not deliberately fucking with your head.
unidentified
No, no.
jordan holmes
If you're listening to it and you're like, wait, is this in the present?
dan friesen
Well, because I think the episode we're going to put out on Friday is, I think we might say it's Monday or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just don't want to, you know.
jordan holmes
It's entirely possible.
dan friesen
We're pros, all right?
jordan holmes
Are we?
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
But.
jordan holmes
In a certain sense.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
I've got to play this out of context drop.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because I'm so excited about what we're going to be going over today.
unidentified
Today we are discussing the New Year's Eve 2015 episode.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck me!
dan friesen
2015 New Year's Eve on the Alex Jones program.
Now, here's the thing.
jordan holmes
I'm quite excited now.
dan friesen
New Year's Eve is the best kind of holiday.
Because it's a holiday that everyone can celebrate.
It has nothing to do necessarily with religion.
It has nothing to do with a nation of origin.
There's nothing jingoistic about it.
All it is is a time to reflect on the last year that's happened in your life.
jordan holmes
I disagree entirely.
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
I mean, whose calendar are we using?
dan friesen
Well, who cares?
jordan holmes
The calendar is white nationalist.
dan friesen
Chinese New Year's a fucking awesome time, too.
You know what I'm talking about?
jordan holmes
I'm just being a dick.
dan friesen
Any of these holidays that are really just about reflection and about, like, what can we do better next time around?
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I'm into them.
jordan holmes
They're a celebration and a day of remembrance and regret.
dan friesen
None of this will be relevant to Alex Jones in this New Year's Eve.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But he has a guest.
jordan holmes
There is actually a war on Christmas on New Year's Eve this year.
dan friesen
I think I might have cut out some of that stuff.
But he has a guest on that I've been itching to talk about for the entire time we've done this.
And he comes on the first time in the coverage of the era that we've been covering.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
His name is James David Manning, and he is number two on my list of my favorite crazies on Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Is he the third Manning brother?
dan friesen
He's not, but here is an out-of-context drop of James David Manning that made me laugh for maybe five minutes earlier today.
jordan holmes
Okay.
pastor david manning
I mentioned this on Sabbath in the pulpit.
That someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
Did I tell you all that?
jordan holmes
The fact that he said he mentioned it from the pulpit means that there is a church out there that knows.
Somebody sent this dude a bag of poop.
Or a box of poop.
dan friesen
We'll get into his entire story when we get there.
But he is a preacher.
He has his own church called Atla in New York.
Already not great.
Up in New York.
And he's crazy.
He is amazingly crazy.
Like the best kind of crazy.
jordan holmes
To the point where he may have...
He accidentally sent himself a box of poop.
dan friesen
I wouldn't put it past him, quite frankly.
He is a virulent anti-gay preacher.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if you start with sodomite, I know we're in trouble.
dan friesen
He's massively also anti-black.
I should be clear about this.
He's black and hates black people.
It's fascinating, and we're going to get into all of it.
You know what?
He doesn't come in at the beginning of the show.
So we've got to start as the show starts.
With a box of poop?
We've got to find out.
Alex Jones, the last we left off, we were talking about the 29th, the 30th.
We discussed the two days prior to this where we're seeing that Alex Jones has accepted that he is with Donald Trump.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And one of the things that we wanted to get into was, like, how long does it take him to go from there to Americana 2.0?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think you're going to see.
It was very quick.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Because I think it might even be in this episode.
jordan holmes
Jesus!
dan friesen
You start to see, like, the show is so much more about Trump.
Almost, I would say, three-quarters of this episode is about how great Trump is.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
It happens very fast.
But Alex starts the show by talking about John Wayne's son and how he is one of the elites.
alex jones
At a camp out with my son at a birthday party.
And...
I was down by the creek, and I'd already been told by the folks that were putting on the party on their acreage that, oh yeah, John Wayne's son lives next door, but they're moving out in a month to Costa Rica.
They're leaving the United States, and they say it was basically the last time to get out of here.
So then I'm down there, and up by the creek, like a day later, we're there for two days.
Here comes John Wayne's son.
And I'm like, look, it looks like John Wayne.
Looks like a Hispanic John Wayne.
And I hear you're leaving.
And he goes, yeah, the word is you don't get out of here in a year or two.
You won't be able to get out with your money or anything.
I said, really?
He goes, yeah, that's what all the rich people and all the elites are doing.
They're leaving.
And I've been hearing that from billionaires and people, too.
You know, now it's all over the news.
dan friesen
It's not.
Also, if I were the elites.
I don't think I would care about John Wayne's son.
jordan holmes
I disagree.
dan friesen
I think he would be very low on my list of press release recipients.
unidentified
Really?
jordan holmes
Yes, I think so.
dan friesen
Son of the Duke.
jordan holmes
You just, then, you have no respect for tradition.
dan friesen
I don't.
jordan holmes
And this is why the West is dying.
Dan, everybody knows that you respect John Wayne's lineage.
dan friesen
Super patriotic movie stars and their offspring are very important to Americana.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know about Ronald Reagan's son, right?
dan friesen
Sure, he got pegged.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
He sent somebody a box of poop.
I don't know who it is, but I bet we'll find out.
dan friesen
I can't tell you how funny I think that, like, so...
James David Manning, not to jump the gun, but he puts out so many fucking videos on his YouTube channel that it's legitimately impossible for us to cover everything.
We could do an entire podcast about him, and I think it might be more fun.
jordan holmes
Alright, so when Alex Jones goes down, we're right on the James David Manning tip.
dan friesen
And I was going through them, trying to find fun stuff that he said over the years, and one of the titles was just, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
unidentified
And I clicked it, and that drop is how it starts.
He's just like, you may have heard.
dan friesen
Sodomites sent me a bucket of poop.
unidentified
You don't have to tell anybody about this.
jordan holmes
You don't have to tell anybody.
You can just look at it and be like, well, that's a bucket of poop.
dan friesen
Let's not let these sodomites win.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Let's not publicize this one.
jordan holmes
But if you do, boy, did they win.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
Like, to me...
There's nothing funnier than that video.
There's nothing funnier!
jordan holmes
I have some Madea movies to show you, my friend.
I'm glad you're enjoying this!
dan friesen
Wait till we get to some of this other stuff.
It's bananas.
Let's trod through the Alex Jones episode before Manning gets there.
In this clip, Alex Jones expresses a good bit of...
Ambivalent racism, sort of, I guess, is a fair way to put it.
Alright.
Well, he says something that indicates that he's more aware of his bigotry than he likes to let on.
Okay.
alex jones
This isn't a game.
This is the totalitarian takeover of America.
Al Gore said two years ago, we need an Arab Spring in America.
And they're bringing in an Arab Spring with the radical left and the Black Lives Matter movement.
To start a civil war in this country.
That's not rhetoric, folks.
That's what they're planning.
unidentified
And we're trying to stop it.
alex jones
People say, well, Black Lives Matter has some good points.
Let's get past all that.
It's George Soros' run!
jordan holmes
No!
alex jones
Of course it's going to have some legitimate points.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
That's crazy.
jordan holmes
Wait, what did he just say?
dan friesen
That's crazy.
jordan holmes
It's Soros Run!
You know Soros occasionally is right.
dan friesen
Soros always covers his bases, bro.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's just gonna be right.
You know, he's got some good points, but it's Soros.
Don't worry about that.
The points are about how we're suppressing and murdering black people.
Don't worry about those good points.
dan friesen
He's trying to distract you with truth.
jordan holmes
It's Soros.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Now, there's a civil war coming, and it definitely has nothing to do with the fact that we are fucking over black people.
unidentified
Nothing.
jordan holmes
And black lives do matter.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And maybe it is time for a civil war.
dan friesen
Now look, those are good points.
jordan holmes
Those are good points.
dan friesen
But put them aside.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I want to make you racist.
jordan holmes
Because the Arab Spring is happening with...
The radical left, which is a thing that I think now should exist.
dan friesen
I think it will.
jordan holmes
It did not exist.
dan friesen
I think we're basically living through exactly how the Weathermen got created.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly, right?
dan friesen
You know, how that became a necessity.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying that the IRA was great.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But they had some legitimate points, even though they were funded by Soros.
dan friesen
We can debate the idea that I just espoused that they were, in fact, necessary until the cows come home.
But the reality is...
jordan holmes
They were.
dan friesen
Radicalization is coming.
It's afoot.
So in this next clip, this is a...
Buddy, this is a Mike Down clip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because in this clip...
Boy, this is bad.
Alex says something pretty terrible, but before he does, he mentions another one of John Wayne's children.
jordan holmes
John Wayne has multiple children?
dan friesen
Apparently, yeah.
I didn't look it up, but yeah.
alex jones
John Wayne's daughter endorses Trump.
I am humbly at your service.
My dad, I am sure, will be very proud of Mr. Trump.
Bill Cosby's lawyer has faith in justice system.
I mean, look, whether he did all this or not, I think the thing's questionable on both sides.
I think what he did was unethical.
jordan holmes
That's what it is!
alex jones
There's obviously something going on there, but in so many of the cases, it's like...
I was a playboy girl, and I, you know, went out with him 15 times, and I think he used to drug me.
I don't know what happened when I went in the bedroom with him.
I mean, just give me a break.
jordan holmes
That's the point!
alex jones
Give me a break.
I just kept going to the hotel room with him, and he'd say, take this pill, and I did, and I didn't know what the pill did.
jordan holmes
You got it!
alex jones
We now graduated into what we're hearing about date rape, where I had five vodkas, and then I didn't know what happened.
Since caveman times, men have been like, drink the mead, female.
I mean, I...
unidentified
Oof.
alex jones
It's just, it's dangerous where all this is going.
I'll tell you what else is dangerous.
Actually does look like a toad.
I mean, I have to say Cosby doesn't look too happy in these photographs and I shouldn't be laughing about it.
But he's now taken the form of a Muppet and he was acting like he was blind when they let him in.
I mean, I don't know what's going on.
dan friesen
So at the end there, Alex says, I don't know what's going on and that's fairly accurate.
jordan holmes
He has...
He got it right!
dan friesen
No, but it shows that...
unidentified
He mailed it!
jordan holmes
The fact that he was like, yeah, she came in and he kept saying, take this pill, and it's like, oh, I don't see what's wrong with that.
For years, I was like, no, he drugged her!
You even said he drugged her!
dan friesen
You're even missing the point in that what he says there and the fact that he understands what the allegations and the reality of it is...
jordan holmes
And even says, obviously, something is going on.
dan friesen
Right, and he's fine with it means that he's fine with that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, he's fine with...
dan friesen
He's cool with date rape, basically.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, he thinks it's caveman.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Date rape is fine.
dan friesen
All of these people who are trying to tell men not to drug women, they're just trying to take away their male vitality.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Or something along those lines.
That's fucked up.
jordan holmes
That is fucked up.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, this is...
jordan holmes
Because that's really an endorsement of date rape as opposed...
Like, not even like...
unidentified
Well, no, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
Because it's not like...
dan friesen
I think what he would say is like, listen...
jordan holmes
I don't care!
I knew what he would say.
dan friesen
You're gonna do it.
It's kind of primitive, but you're gonna, yeah, who cares?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Can I steal one?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
No, this is, this is fucking insane.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
It's fine.
It would be fine if he just, it wouldn't be fine.
It would be better if he just denied that he did it.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
As opposed to being like, yeah, he totally did it, but it's fine.
It's like, look, OJ is allowed to kill one wife.
It's just, from caveman days, men have always been like, you woman, me kill you!
dan friesen
If you see your female property with another man, then of course it's going to make you want to kill both of them.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
It's caveman stuff.
Yeah, that's fine.
dan friesen
From the time of caveman.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
As we all know, it's fine to live like that.
Nobody ever had an issue.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's no reason that we've progressed.
jordan holmes
That's so fucking stupid.
Very bad.
It's not even...
There's everything wrong with it.
dan friesen
Everyone understands.
We all get it.
Let's move along.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, that's fucking insane!
dan friesen
No, and I'm not trying to shut you down or anything like that.
It's just we're both, you know, like we said, a little bit hungover.
Let's not dwell on these negative things.
We've highlighted the problems with Alex.
And let's get to the more fun stuff that's coming.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So let's get through this next clip.
Alex, I mean, it's just full-on Trump indications.
He is there.
He is a part of the team.
And we add to the sort of the robustness of the theory that I'm working under that is mostly it's Roger Stone lying to him behind the scenes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And then England, the British government is looking at the UK at banning Donald Trump as a public menace from entering Britannia.
dan friesen
Buh.
alex jones
Interfering in our elections, trying to demonize someone who has massive business holdings in the UK, huge hotels, golf courses, you name it.
These are sanctions against him.
Now, you really know he's good, don't you?
jordan holmes
Just like Iran sanctions.
alex jones
And he's got people advising him that are hardcore InfoWars listeners.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
alex jones
Who are hardcore people in the...
Nixon and Reagan and Bush, 41 administration.
jordan holmes
Why does he say people?
He's specifically talking about Roger Stone.
dan friesen
I think Pchenik, too.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's true.
dan friesen
But at the same time, he's literally describing this person and not saying who it is after he's already given those exact credits for Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
So, great.
jordan holmes
Look, I'm not going to say who my source is.
It is Donald Trump Jr., though.
dan friesen
Also, I'm pretty sure that Roger Stone doesn't listen to Alex Jones' show.
I'm pretty sure that's lip service.
jordan holmes
Even when he's on Alex Jones' show, he's not listening to Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Certainly not.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
Maybe Cernovich.
Yeah.
unidentified
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Nah.
alex jones
Serious people who don't want to see this country destroyed.
There is an internal battle in the government, folks.
That's why all these generals are going public.
That's why Cy Hirsch came on the show yesterday.
This is a soft coup against the globalist takeover.
There is a counter coup going on.
Cy Hirsch agreed.
dan friesen
No, he didn't.
alex jones
Pulitzer Prize winner.
Greatest living journalist with this show yesterday.
Knowing full well who we are, came on to agree with us.
dan friesen
He has to clarify that because he's like, we didn't trick him.
jordan holmes
Knowing who we are, he agreed with us, which even I have to point out is bonkers.
dan friesen
Very incredible.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Alex Jones is like, wait, what?
A journalist agreed with me?
You're a journalist.
dan friesen
This is a claim no one's going to believe.
And so, yeah, he tries to bolster it.
But if you go, I mean, you can find it if you want to find it.
You can go listen to the entire interview with Cy Hirsch.
jordan holmes
He says there's a soft coup and that a counter coup is going on.
dan friesen
He doesn't agree with Alex.
He's conflating interviews that he had with Steve Pachenik.
jordan holmes
Non-stop agreement.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's Steve Pachenik who agrees with all that stuff.
jordan holmes
It's the same person.
dan friesen
Seymour Hersh did have some interesting things to say, but he also said that...
jordan holmes
And did you know that Steve Pachenik also was Bill Hicks?
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
No, he's actually Kinnison.
unidentified
Soft coup!
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex is...
I think he's got some bad information.
And this is the beginning of the...
What I would describe as the...
Disprovable, undisprovable stories about Trump's elaborate strategies.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And the secret patriots.
jordan holmes
He's been a patriot for 30 years, right?
dan friesen
Well, this is less Trump, and this is more the secret patriots that helped get Trump elected, and the sort of work that they were doing.
jordan holmes
Don't like them.
dan friesen
Not great.
alex jones
The military has said, no.
unidentified
Nah.
alex jones
You want to give weapons to ISIS?
We're just going to break them.
And they deliver them broken weapons.
That's why ISIS will bitch on these things and go, hang grenades without the detonators.
You know, AR-15s without the firing pins.
And so when the military's flying over there and the contractors are with these big C-130s full of weapons, they sit there on the whole flight sabotaging it.
Well, they follow their orders.
But they sabotage it.
dan friesen
So, before we go any further...
jordan holmes
I feel like that is not their orders.
dan friesen
It's not.
jordan holmes
They're taking license with their orders.
dan friesen
Well, but before we go any further, if we imagine a scenario wherein Alex is correct, and these people are giving weapons to terrorist groups, but their way of lashing out is to break the weapons before they get there...
I think that the bad people within our military who are ordering these weapons to be delivered are going to figure out that pattern pretty quick and figure out who's breaking the weapons on the way to the terrorist group.
It's not like the terrorists aren't going to be like, hey, guys, shitheads.
jordan holmes
If you have an open communication line, they're going to be like, why are our weapons broken?
And the generals aren't going to be like, well, I don't know.
dan friesen
Oh, no, they got us.
jordan holmes
Well, the counter coup worked.
alex jones
Patriots!
jordan holmes
Or the soft coup worked.
Or whichever coup, the counter counter coup.
dan friesen
So anyway, I think that's kind of stupid.
jordan holmes
Very.
alex jones
That's going on at the grassroots level.
I don't think I've ever seen such a legitimate resistance.
This isn't mutiny.
If you're on board an aircraft 777, say, and a guy goes, you know, In the name of Allah, it's great.
I will kill all of you if you do not do as I say.
And back in the 70s and 80s, they would actually go put on the outfit of the captain a lot of times.
Because they found everybody submitted when they saw the uniform.
Would it be mutiny to fight back against a hijacker who put the captain's uniform on?
You ask a trendy, they'd say absolutely.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Check your white privilege at the door and hope that Habib saws your head off.
I'm not kidding.
There's a death wish for these people.
No.
The guy wearing the uniform isn't the president.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Check your white privilege.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And hope you get beheaded.
dan friesen
Hope Habib cuts off your head.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm a fan of that as a phrase.
Okay.
I want to find more ways to use that in my daily life.
dan friesen
Well, you're damned trendy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I'm fine with that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
As long as I get to say that, because that is a fun sentence.
dan friesen
You're on a plane, it gets taken over by terrorists, someone tries to fight back, and then you're like, check your privilege, bro.
Don't fight back against this terrorist.
Check your privilege.
jordan holmes
Hey, listen.
Listen, honky.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
If Khabib says you're getting your head cut off, hey, we're moving on up.
That's all I'm saying.
dan friesen
He's a minority.
You gotta let him.
So stupid.
unidentified
Also, if it's a plane, no, it's not mutiny.
jordan holmes
That's not how mutiny works.
dan friesen
It's usually on boats.
jordan holmes
Well, it is usually on boats.
But it's also where there's a clear chain of command there.
If you're on a plane and somebody hijacked it, then that's no longer mutiny.
The guy who hijacked the plane technically committed mutiny.
unidentified
It's piracy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's all done.
jordan holmes
So fucking stupid.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex Jones makes a bold pronouncement.
And this is after he plays a clip of Donald Trump insulting...
All the other candidates.
And he says that Hillary Clinton doesn't want to go up against him.
I'm the last person she wants to be running against.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
So he says that, and this is Alex's response.
alex jones
He is such a maniac.
I love Donald Trump.
I'm sold.
I can't help it.
I mean, the Secret Service thinks he's going to get shot any moment, by the way.
I mean, they are just crawling all over the place.
They won't let anybody get near him.
dan friesen
Real quick.
jordan holmes
To our monetary destruction.
dan friesen
Well, real quick, I think that that is Roger Stone feeding him a line about why he can't meet him or something like that.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
I think that that's probably Roger Stone being like, yeah, you know, the Secret Service isn't letting anyone near him now, you know, so I'm sorry, Alex.
You're going to have to wait.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure.
Sure.
alex jones
Trump has really, really got guts.
And there's that quote from Full Metal Jacket.
Private Joker's silly and he's ignorant, but he's got guts and guts is enough.
dan friesen
How did that end up?
alex jones
Well, Trump's not silly or ignorant.
He does some wild things because he's real.
jordan holmes
Don't worry about it.
alex jones
And, you know, I questioned it four or five months ago, but now knowing the inside baseball and watching them openly come after him and the money from both parties coming in against him, I mean, they see him as a major threat.
jordan holmes
And he is!
dan friesen
I'd like to pose an alternative explanation for what Alex believes is the globalists seeing him as a major threat.
Some people care about people.
jordan holmes
Disagree.
dan friesen
And a lot of people very early on saw how bad Trump would be for their rights.
What?
jordan holmes
So far he has done a great job.
dan friesen
So he's a massive threat, for sure.
But not to globalists.
jordan holmes
To all of us!
dan friesen
People surviving.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, the globalists, too.
Alex, also.
Roger Stone, there's a big threat because Donald Trump loves nuclear weapons.
dan friesen
Seems that way.
jordan holmes
And he wants to use them.
And he doesn't like that everybody hates him.
dan friesen
It's true.
jordan holmes
And every time he's dropped a bomb, everybody's loved him.
dan friesen
Everyone said he's presidential.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is a negative feedback.
jordan holmes
So that doesn't bode well for all of us surviving.
Let alone, then he's threatening on Twitter.
He's even said recently, like, there's only one way to solve this problem.
All negotiations have failed, so there's one way to solve it, which suggests he wants to do that.
dan friesen
And I would posit, like, why haven't we then?
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm not saying that we should, obviously.
jordan holmes
Shh, Dan.
dan friesen
I think it's still all blustery bluffing.
But my fear is that it's not.
But the fact that he hasn't just gone ahead and fucking attacked him kind of means there's a reason he's not.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think it's because at a certain point some general has wrestled him to the ground while he's been like, so who's carrying the nuclear football?
Anybody over here?
And he's been beaten.
dan friesen
It'd be great if they just gave him fake codes.
That would solve a lot.
jordan holmes
They should give him fake everything.
Just put him in a small room with a fake Twitter account.
Look.
I will call on Twitter right now to build a fake Twitter that only Donald Trump existed.
dan friesen
Or get Trump on Gab or whatever.
Let him hang out with those neo-Nazis over there on Gab.
jordan holmes
Go to Friendster.
dan friesen
Yeah, why not?
jordan holmes
Get on back there.
dan friesen
Bring it back.
jordan holmes
Hey, AIM, you got one job left before you go away.
dan friesen
They're gone.
jordan holmes
That's all I'm saying.
dan friesen
They're gone.
jordan holmes
They got one thing to do.
dan friesen
So now, Jordan.
jordan holmes
They got one last job.
dan friesen
Jordan, we have seen here on this 31st, the New Year's Eve day episode, Alex Jones is fully...
He loves him.
He loves him.
He says he loves him.
And that was, I think, the formal endorsement that we've been waiting to find.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And it's a little lackluster because we already kind of felt it.
So it's not like this eureka moment.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And even if it was, it would be eclipsed by the appearance of James David Manning.
I first discovered James David Manning because he really hated Barack Obama.
In the lead up to the 2008 election.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so a friend of mine found a video that was a compilation of James David Manning screaming and Reverend Wright, Obama's preacher, screaming.
And the two of them just saying ridiculous shit.
unidentified
And I was like, what the fuck is this dude?
dan friesen
He's crazy.
He's like, his big quote that maybe some people have heard is, Barack Obama is a long-legged mac daddy.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember that.
dan friesen
He likes to put...
Women out on the stroll.
I started to look into him a little bit.
He does not disappoint in any way in terms of how insane he is and how unhinged he is from the pulpit and from his own video podcast that he puts out called The Manning Report.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
We have so much...
Fun to get into, so let's let Alex introduce James David Manning.
jordan holmes
Our new crazy.
alex jones
And Pastor Manning was right.
I remember having him on before Obama got in office, and he said, look out, he wants to destroy the country, he wants to bankrupt everything, he's a radical Muslim.
I said, listen, I love hearing you're preaching, and you're a great guy, and you're really smart, but I just think you're going too far.
And he said he's going to create all this racial division, and he's going to...
Bring in all these problems and that's their plan to destabilize.
And I said, Manning, you're wrong.
That was eight years ago.
The year before Obama got in office.
dan friesen
So this is Alex giving a lead up to his appearance being like, he was so right, I thought he was wrong, but I'm the one with egg on my face because now I've fully adopted all of these narratives.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
All of these anti-Barack Obama narratives.
jordan holmes
I love that.
I love that idea that so many people throw out all the time.
It's like, oh, he's creating racial division.
Right.
You're just like...
He's successfully made you look at it.
dan friesen
Well, but that's...
jordan holmes
It's always been there.
It's what this whole fucking country is.
dan friesen
It's the same narrative that they had of people who did, like, sit-ins at the diners and shit like that.
They're like, you're inciting racism.
Well, no, I'm just existing in public.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I'm revealing how racist you are.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You stupid piece of shit.
dan friesen
And those arguments have existed all throughout history in terms of trying to, you know...
It's not even criminalizing, but like...
jordan holmes
Stigmatizing.
dan friesen
Stigmatizing and denigrating black existence.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's sad.
jordan holmes
How awful is it?
The vice president flew to Indianapolis to watch 20 seconds of a fucking football game.
And then pretend that he's angry about it as if it was not a fucking publicity stunt that everybody saw through in ten minutes!
He tweeted out a picture from three years ago!
dan friesen
And Trump tweeted that I told him to go.
jordan holmes
And Trump tweeted, we live in a fucking cartoon, Dan!
dan friesen
It's nonsense.
jordan holmes
This is insane!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's crazy.
So anyway, here's the...
jordan holmes
Puerto Rico's still...
He still doesn't have fucking water.
Our vice president is flying to Indianapolis for bullshit.
dan friesen
It's true.
jordan holmes
Kill us all, Dan.
We deserve it.
We have it coming.
dan friesen
No, no.
jordan holmes
We all have it coming.
dan friesen
It's not time yet because we have not yet delved into the fun, fun world of Reverend Manning.
So here is the proper introduction and Manning coming into the Infowars airwaves.
alex jones
So joining us is the head of ATLA.
ATLA.
And, of course, he is a person for decades, teaching and free lunches and meals for the kids there in Harlem, going up against, he was here almost six months ago, and he said, we're going to bring down Al Sharpton.
You now see Sharpton being removed and being brought to the weekends and all the rest of it.
And he prayed for it, he said it, and it's actually happening.
He is the Mafia Don that runs Harlem.
In my view, I call him a mafia don, a political mafia don.
James David Manning is the chief pastor at Otlo World Missionary Church in New York City.
Manning has been in Otlo since 81, and he stands for all the land anointed holy, which is God named for Harlem.
And I'm not going to get into all his degrees and background on the rest of it and what he's done.
He's been very successful.
dan friesen
He created his own school.
jordan holmes
Of course he did.
dan friesen
And he awarded himself a doctorate.
jordan holmes
Of course he did.
dan friesen
From Sri Lanka.
No, it's not even that legitimate.
alex jones
Waking folks up.
We salute him and his work, and he has been proven right on so many fronts.
dan friesen
He has not.
alex jones
Pastor Manning, I thought you were being alarmist eight years ago, but I tell you, we are in a fight for our lives right now, and we are up against a satanic force.
You're absolutely right.
pastor david manning
No, we are at war, Alex.
There's no doubt about that.
And I've started a campaign to get Trump elected.
Need to get him past the Republican nomination process, which is going to be very difficult because you've got both Democrats and Republicans working together to stop him with every power that they can muster.
But we have called for Harlem for Trump.
And I got to tell you, Alex, black people here in Harlem are touting that Trump is the man.
dan friesen
Not sure.
Not sure that's the case.
jordan holmes
Troubling if true.
dan friesen
Maybe in his tiny insulated church of complete crazies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe that's the case.
Maybe he has been able to swing them.
But I don't believe the African American community at large was thinking that Trump is the man.
jordan holmes
Even in 2015.
I think the African community at large has been proven right along all political spectrums for a good long while now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Especially about a lot of this neo-Nazi white supremacists.
jordan holmes
They're not happy.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
They're not happy.
dan friesen
Nope.
Everyone should have listened.
Quite frankly, I should have listened more.
I regret that a little bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think we...
dan friesen
There were a lot of earlier signs that...
Maybe he didn't take seriously enough.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I regret that.
unidentified
Well, we all should have checked our white privilege and gotten beheaded by Habib.
dan friesen
Habib!
So, in this next clip, Reverend Manning explains that he believes that Trump can save America.
pastor david manning
But Donald is the man.
There's no doubt about it.
He is the man for America.
Obama has, in fact...
Donald Alex is perhaps the only man I know right now that can put America back together again because Obama has destroyed it.
And anybody else who gets into power, who sits down in that Oval Office, is going to continue the policies of Obama and continue the destruction of this nation.
Listen, you mentioned Anderson Cooper a few moments ago in Egypt.
We can come back to that and we can talk about that as a major subject at some point in time.
I've got to tell you, Anderson Cooper ought to be put on trial.
He and Obama working to destroy the relationship that Egypt had with Israel, to destroy the relationship that Egypt had with America, and to set off what is now known as the Arab Spring or the Egyptian Spring.
alex jones
They've now joined the Russians.
They drove our oldest ally after Israel away from us.
They're destroying the country.
pastor david manning
The Russians are our oldest ally?
Donald is the only man that will look at this truthfully and say we as Americans cannot be great again until we examine this and somebody needs to go to trial.
dan friesen
So someone needs to go to trial.
jordan holmes
Who?
Anderson Cooper?
dan friesen
Probably, but I think he'd probably rather it be Barack Obama.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would hate it if the next president continued the policies of Obama.
I would prefer he continued the policies of Woodrow fucking Wilson.
dan friesen
So there's a couple things I want you to hold on to for a second.
This idea about Anderson Cooper.
He hates Anderson Cooper.
We'll get back to that.
And then also, the trial.
These are two things.
By Kafka.
We have three more clips.
A Reverend Manning from Alex Jones' show.
jordan holmes
And then we're going to get into Reverend Manning unfiltered.
dan friesen
Oh, yes.
And those two things are going to be very important for future clips.
So I'm going to put a pin in it myself, although I really want to talk about it already.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Let's get to this next one where Reverend Manning explains that he also believes that Black Lives Matter is trying to cook up a race war.
pastor david manning
Well, actually, what they're doing with items like Black Lives Matter...
It's trying to see which is the most explosive issue to start either a race war.
You know, they're talking about taking down the statue of Robert E. Lee there in New Orleans.
I'm sure you've been to New Orleans.
You've seen that statue in front of the St. James Infirmary.
You've seen that statue.
It's a beautiful statue.
They're talking about taking down the statue of Beauregard, taking down Jefferson Davis.
But I got to tell you, if they do that, you're going to get the sons of the Confederacy rising up to say to hell no.
We've had enough.
We don't have a nation left anymore, so we've got to take to arms and defend our nation.
jordan holmes
What the fuck are you talking about?
pastor david manning
The testing which will go.
Black Lives Matter or fighting the Confederates or the Sons of the Confederates, I think.
alex jones
That's right.
They're trying to stir everybody up.
pastor david manning
Right.
Yeah.
Crazy.
And to get an explosive situation where Obama can then declare martial law.
And he will become the supreme law person in America.
And what he says goes, there'll be no constitution.
Nobody will have any constitutional protection.
You, Alex, will not be able to broadcast.
I can tell you that right now.
They will shut you down like a cheap suit.
dan friesen
That's not an expression.
jordan holmes
They will shut you down like a cheap suit?
dan friesen
Shut that suit down.
jordan holmes
They will shut you down like a cheap suit?
dan friesen
Shut the suit down!
jordan holmes
Are you saying that if you wear a cheap suit, it will shut you down?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Like you'll have a fever or something?
dan friesen
I think he's just mixing metaphors.
But be it as it may, I mean, look at that.
Look at that.
What he's saying is Black Lives Matter is being created in order to try and antagonize the Sons of the Confederacy.
jordan holmes
Why does he not get that the fact that they are there in the first place is a big issue?
dan friesen
They're dormant.
jordan holmes
But that's also an issue!
dan friesen
It's a big issue.
jordan holmes
Wait, so, okay.
Okay.
Alright.
Look, we don't want Black Lives Matter pointing out that we're being murdered by the Sons of the Confederacy.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Because if they do, the Sons of the Confederacy are going to murder black people.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And we can't have that.
dan friesen
Right.
If we keep it under the surface, it'll just keep happening.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But if we talk about it, it'll happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I know.
That'd be terrible.
unidentified
Stupid.
jordan holmes
That'd be fucking...
That's so dumb.
dan friesen
But then it is also...
I mean, the linchpin, the underpinning of his argument is that, like, look...
Don't antagonize racists.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Don't antagonize these archaic, violent racists.
So just be subservient to them.
Let them be.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's not good.
jordan holmes
I love those statues of Beauregard, and I wish I was a slave.
I mean, it was good stuff.
dan friesen
But you know what?
They might be beautiful statues if they didn't have the context that they did.
The ironwork might be great.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Oh, dude.
They all...
Okay, I don't know if you've seen this or not.
There was an incredible statue of Stalin.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So beautiful.
It was made perfectly.
Now, yes, it does represent tens of millions of deaths.
dan friesen
I would like a statue of that bucket of poop that a sodomite delivered to Reverend Manning.
jordan holmes
Let's deliver a statue.
The shortest, saddest story.
Bucket of poop.
Undelivered.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, they get down and look head-on.
Why does Reverend Manning support Donald Trump?
Because it seems weird.
It seems very weird.
alex jones
Talk, Donald Trump.
You've got the floor.
Let's talk about why you don't normally support candidates, but you like Trump.
Go ahead.
pastor david manning
Well, you know, because politicians are politicians, Alex.
You know that.
And you've seen the way in which our nation has gone over the past generation.
So, I mean, politicians, they are who they are.
They're usually bought and paid for by big money donors like George Soros or even the Koch brothers.
And they owe their allegiance to these persons that pay their bills.
And what they do is that they support, politicians support each other, no matter if Democrat or Republican.
And they share after people.
The reason why I'm supporting Donald Trump, It's Donald Trump supports the people and shafts the politicians.
Listen, Alex, I was in a meeting not long ago at Trump Tower with 80-some preachers.
They're all black preachers, all black pastors, various churches.
You know who they are and how they behave themselves.
I've been a pastor for over 30-some years, and I know the mindset of Christians and the church and how Christians act one towards the other and pastors one towards the other.
Alex, I was with Donald for three hours.
This man sat in a meeting with 83 preachers, most of which, if not all of which except for me, were telling him he needed to apologize for roughing up the Black Lives Matter guy that tried to disturb his meeting down in Alabama, I think it was.
But he sat there with the kind of patience I don't think Dr. King...
He could have handled those preachers, and not just with patience, but respect.
alex jones
He has scary stamina.
He has scary stamina.
That's one reason.
jordan holmes
He has a scary lot of stuff.
pastor david manning
It's incredible what he was able to do.
That scary stamina is a great phrase to identify him.
But he did that.
And not only that, but if someone was speaking, and mostly it was just garbage coming out of the mouth of these preachers, but he paid attention.
He didn't obfuscate anybody.
He didn't belittle anybody.
He let people talk.
And even though the meeting ran over time, he still sat there and listened to what they had to say and addressed everything.
Nobody felt the bum rush from Donald Trump.
I said, this is my man.
I got to support him.
Because he was honest.
He was integral.
And I think he'll do the same thing with America.
alex jones
Well, I've learned some of the inside stuff about it.
And he's a free market guy.
He's certainly not pervert.
He's very dominant, very aggressive.
The thing they try to demonize male strength, people are very hungry for that.
That's why they tried to kill it.
pastor david manning
Right, absolutely.
dan friesen
Yike.
Yuck.
Yuck.
So he likes him because he went to a meeting and all these other black preachers that he doesn't like were mad at him.
He's like, oh, well.
jordan holmes
A millionaire lying about being a billionaire landlord.
as we all know, is a man connected with the people.
dan friesen
Right, especially...
jordan holmes
You know how all of your billionaire landlords are always like, hey, let me listen to your concern.
dan friesen
Yeah, especially a millionaire pretending to be a billionaire landlord who's had frequent incidents of not renting to black people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whose father was a registered member of the KKK.
dan friesen
It's a lot.
jordan holmes
Of course he can sit there and listen to you for that long.
Because in his mind, all he's doing is playing a loop of his favorite song.
Trump is great.
Trump is great.
I am Trump.
unidentified
Trump is great.
jordan holmes
I am Trump.
Trump is...
I'm sorry, what was that?
Yeah, sure.
dan friesen
So, I agree.
And in this next clip, Manning says something that is accidentally alarming.
pastor david manning
But everybody who loves America loves what Donald is doing.
If he can do this to the political process, Alex, think what he can do to the American government once he sits down in that Oval Office.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You nailed it!
Did you not see how perfectly you nailed it, Manning?
If what he's doing in the campaign is what he's going to do in the office, we're fucked!
dan friesen
Yeah, because what he did in the campaign is destroying decorum.
Bucking every convention of decency.
jordan holmes
Threatened everybody.
Mocked everybody.
Had people kicked out, beaten.
Suggested that people shoot people.
Say the Second Amendment people should murder Hillary Clinton.
All of this stuff.
dan friesen
The Second Amendment people could take care of her.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How that didn't...
That's a crime, right?
dan friesen
I think so.
jordan holmes
I think it's a crime.
dan friesen
I think you speak vaguely enough it's not maybe a crime.
I don't know.
Look, who cares?
It's important, but...
jordan holmes
I'm so furious today.
I just can't...
It's like this behavior is so stupid, so silly, so ridiculous.
dan friesen
I promise you at the end of this everything is going to be alright.
Everything is going to be alright at the end.
It's not.
The world's still going to suck.
jordan holmes
It's still going to be fire.
dan friesen
Right, but this arc is going to be really interesting that we're going to go on.
And this first clip of Reverend Manning from his own releases, because that basically sums up all the shit they talk about on the show.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
This first one, I'm just going to play for you without any comment.
No setup necessary.
This is fucked up.
pastor david manning
Barack's out there in Honolulu trying to convince...
Michelle, the fist bumper Obama.
By the way, talking about a righteous man and everything.
You hear what I'm saying?
Man leading in his home.
But if my wife, Elizabeth here, y 'all see her.
dan friesen
So she is sitting right behind him.
jordan holmes
Y 'all see her.
dan friesen
Y 'all see her.
Here's where he goes with this.
pastor david manning
If this woman you see here, see this is my wife, ever greeted me with a fist bump, I'd give her a left hook in the chair.
I don't want a woman greeting me like a man.
I'm not a football player.
I'm not a basketball player.
I'm not an athlete.
You're supposed to be sweet and dainty.
You're a woman, not a man.
I could get that from the boys on the corner.
dan friesen
It's so crazy.
What the fuck?
jordan holmes
That's horrific, but it's...
dan friesen
It's so crazy.
jordan holmes
It's so crazy.
If my wife ever greeted me with a fist bump, I would give her a left hook.
dan friesen
I would punch her in the face.
jordan holmes
That seems, at the very least, an overreaction on your part.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
At the very least.
dan friesen
And you know what's fascinating is his wife not fazed by this.
jordan holmes
I know!
dan friesen
She's sitting there like, hmm.
jordan holmes
It seems like...
dan friesen
Note to self.
Don't give a...
James a fist bump.
jordan holmes
It would be like, if you were her, which you're not, because you're not insane.
dan friesen
Right.
Well, that's one of the reasons.
jordan holmes
Wouldn't that be one of those situations where you're just like, wait, did he just say he would punch me if I fist bumped him?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think it's time for me to go.
dan friesen
I think I should.
I'm glad that he releases this video because that's public evidence.
unidentified
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
To get a divorce.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Especially, it's going to be tough for him to argue he doesn't beat his wife if that allegation is ever made.
unidentified
Well, that's...
dan friesen
Not saying he does.
To be perfectly clear.
I'm not going to make that kind of accusation.
I have no evidence of it.
But I do think that he is a closeted homosexual and a massive self-loathing black man.
And those things will be borne out over the course of these clips.
This next one is a little long, but it has to play as this entire long clip.
I think he thinks that this is a really intelligent deconstruction.
Of why he is not a homophobe.
jordan holmes
I think he thinks everything he says is the most intelligent.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
This one is...
I mean, it's just there's elementary logical problems with this.
pastor david manning
I need to call everybody together now.
Everybody, I need diversity here as much as we can possibly get.
Now, I realize there's not a lot of diversity of people that listen to the Manning Report.
Everybody that listens to the Manning Report thinks the same way, which is the right way.
There are no wrong people listening to the Manning Report except for spies and haters.
But having said that, let me ask you a question.
dan friesen
I think we're spies.
pastor david manning
Would it be a stereotypical, bigoted, racial statement were I to say to you that you look like a successful businessman if you came in with a nice suit on, a nice shirt and tie, and maybe wingtip shoes or tassel loafers?
dan friesen
Do you sense where this is going?
jordan holmes
Is businessman a race, Dan?
dan friesen
I think you sense where this is going.
jordan holmes
I think I'm going to get to the bottom of this one.
dan friesen
It actually gets weirder than you think.
jordan holmes
Is it a bigoted racial statement to say you look like a nice businessman?
Uh-huh.
No.
I think you know why, too.
I think it should be very simple and easy to explain why that is not a bigoted racial statement.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Let's see where this goes.
pastor david manning
And you were carrying an attaché case.
I said, you know, you clean-shaven, you look like a successful businessman.
Who are you?
Would that be stereotypical, bigotry, racist, or what do you think?
However, if you came in and you looked a little effeminate and your dress looked a little soft, your apparel looked a little soft, and you're...
Your gestures, your eyes, and whether you held your shoulders inward or outward or what, made you look like someone who you knew was indeed actually an out-of-the-closet homosexual.
And so I said to you, or I said to someone else, but maybe I wouldn't say it to you, I said, you know, he looks like a homo, homosexual.
Is that racist or stereotypical, or is it bigotry?
dan friesen
It's very stereotypical.
jordan holmes
It's not racist!
pastor david manning
I mean, is one right and the other wrong, or are they both wrong?
unidentified
No!
pastor david manning
It's what I want to try to ask.
And what I do want to say, is it right to make perceptions that one of the oldest and most enduring proverbs of our times, or times prior to our times, I don't want to know this.
Maybe of Socrates' times, you know, is...
You know, first impressions or best impressions, something of that order, right?
You heard that before.
unidentified
No.
pastor david manning
So what I want to know from you, is it bigotry if I say that someone looks like a homosexual?
Is that bigotry?
Or if I say someone looks like a successful businessman?
Or if I say someone looks like an athlete?
You know, is that bigotry if I raise such a statement in the midst of general conversation?
Well, having said that, let me say this.
CNN has got a number of people broadcasting for them that look like homosexuals.
unidentified
You know, he looks like a homosexual.
pastor david manning
Don Lemon.
Who confessed on this past Saturday night while doing an interview with three members of the short-legged Mac Daddy, Bishop Eddie Long's church, that he had been molested when he was a young boy.
dan friesen
Great.
pastor david manning
And he looks like...
Don Lemon, if you put a blonde wig on him, I do declare he looked just like Barbie.
What?
He does.
And then you got Tony Harris.
Who's an old-school homosexual.
dan friesen
I think that's a racist statement.
pastor david manning
He looks like a homosexual to me.
Is that bigotry?
unidentified
Yes!
pastor david manning
Tell me.
Is that stereotypical bigotry for saying that?
And if so, then it would have to be stereotypical bigotry if I see a man in a well-dressed suit and I see a young boy.
You know, in a black neighborhood, or somewhere close on the fringes of a black neighborhood, with his pants down below his butt, and his sneakers on, and strings are not laced, and he's got a couple of rings in his ear.
Can I say, well, you look like a gang member.
He's got on a red bandana.
Would I be...
Yes!
dan friesen
This guy is crazy.
unidentified
Yes, you would be!
jordan holmes
That's exactly how that works!
dan friesen
This guy is...
jordan holmes
How can you be exactly right on your...
That's so fucking stupid.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it just doesn't...
jordan holmes
Unbelievable.
dan friesen
He's just missing the step of, like, why is it different?
A businessman and a homosexual.
unidentified
He kind of doesn't understand race or...
dan friesen
Take the race part out of it and just imagine the homosexual and the businessman examples that he uses.
He's missing the part of the argument that he should be having as opposed to the one he's trying to present is what is it about these two nouns that are different?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I think if you were to explore that a little bit, it would become very clear very quick why a lot of the things that he's basing, his assessment of what a homosexual is, are bigoted stereotypes that he's very beholden to.
He's obsessed with gay people.
jordan holmes
Now, if I see a man dressed, and I am going to describe his dress very specifically and very detailed, and I say he's a businessman, now, is that...
Is that bigoted?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Now, if that businessman were gay, and I punched him because he was gay, is that bigoted?
dan friesen
A little.
jordan holmes
So if there's a gangbanger, he's coming in on the fringes of the black community.
Now, is he a businessman?
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So that's why I hate gay people.
dan friesen
So now there's another piece to unpack, and that is right or wrong about the businessman, you don't have any judgment that you're placing towards whether or not he's a businessman.
Well, with James David Manning...
Whether or not someone is a homosexual is very important in terms of his judgment of that person.
As we know, sodomites left poo in a bucket.
jordan holmes
That was actually Don Lemon who did that.
dan friesen
Also, I didn't have time to pull all...
jordan holmes
He was wearing a wig at the time, though, so he couldn't...
dan friesen
I didn't have time to pull all these clips, because there's so much more you can find.
There's a clip where he admits to doing gay shit in prison.
jordan holmes
So, like...
So this whole thing is just a crusade against that he feels guilty about giving some dude a blowjob one time.
dan friesen
I think there's a big piece of it that's that.
That sounds about right.
And he's talked about struggling with gay thoughts and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
All this is so clearly...
Every single piece of it is this massive self-loathing, whether it is for being black or for having gay thoughts, those sorts of things.
He just lashes out at all these communities.
That part's not...
Not funny, but everything else is fucking hilarious.
So, this next clip...
This next clip, he's responding to a piece of viewer mail.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And he realizes pretty quick that the viewer is mocking him, and he rolls with it admirably, and then sort of renounces his blackness.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
pastor david manning
Pastor Manning.
We will be introducing our new product, Triple Stuff Oreos, with the Hispanic community and would like to place your image on the package.
Oh, I see what this is.
This is funny.
While your overheated attempt to gain national exposure by attacking the parents of Barack Obama may fall on deaf ears, your picture on our Triple Stuff Oreos is truly a match.
dan friesen
So he went on a crusade to...
jordan holmes
Is he fat?
dan friesen
Yeah, he's pretty fat.
He went on a crusade around the election.
His big quote was, you know, Obama's got a black face, but I told you he's got a white mama.
And so he makes a big deal out of the idea that...
jordan holmes
See, now, that's not a problem.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
If you're calling that a problem, that's a bigoted statement.
Right.
Okay.
Can we establish?
dan friesen
That's what that's in reference to about the idea that your campaign against Barack Obama's parents fell on deaf ears.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So now let's see where he goes with this Oreo shit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
pastor david manning
Made in heaven.
After all, while no person can choose their parents, America still have the right to choose their favorite cookie.
You, of all people, must agree to it.
And it's all about the dough.
Disingenuously, Jose Bold.
I'm not a black.
Don't call me black.
You can call me an Oreo.
Someone call me a triple stuffed Oreo.
I said, kick it up one more notch.
Triple is not good enough for me.
I'm a quadruple stuffed Oreo.
Black on the outside.
And I do not think black on the inside.
That's right.
I do not think.
I think white on the inside.
Man, Pastor Manning, are you sure about that?
Absolutely.
unidentified
I don't think like black folk.
pastor david manning
Have you seen how decrepit, how destructive, how broken they are?
He's Uncle Ruckus.
Over the last 1500 years.
jordan holmes
This is exactly Uncle Rookus.
pastor david manning
And it's been their thinking that got them there.
Because the Bible says, as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he not the color of his skin.
And in fact, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said, don't judge the man by the color of the Oreo on the outside, but judge the man by the color of the cream on the inside.
He did not say that!
jordan holmes
What are you talking about?
pastor david manning
You're about to mess with me.
I done changed Dr. King.
Can I get somebody out there to put this to a rap beat?
All right, here we go again.
jordan holmes
Some white person.
pastor david manning
Here's the deal.
Someone wrote to me the other day.
And said that I'm a triple-stuffed Oreo.
And I said that a triple-stuffed Oreo ain't enough for me.
Make me a quadruple-stuffed Oreo.
And then I went on the same.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That I'm like on the outside.
Oh, but I don't think like black people do on the inside.
They've had 1,500 years of nothing but brokenness, failure, and inability to rise above being number one on the bottom of the world's social register.
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So that's his attempt at making a song.
jordan holmes
Okay.
That's not good.
dan friesen
No, no.
unidentified
It's not good.
dan friesen
The meter is really problematic.
jordan holmes
I think that may be his ultimate issue with the black community.
He has no connection to music whatsoever.
dan friesen
He lacks the rhythm inherent to a lot of the musical genres.
jordan holmes
Fifteen hundred years!
Why would you pick that number?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know.
I can't unpack anything other than that song would not be a hit.
jordan holmes
It would...
It would be a hit.
dan friesen
And you see him just being...
jordan holmes
Didn't you hear the people at Charlottesville singing that song?
dan friesen
When they came back the other night?
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Can we just kill them?
dan friesen
I mean, we can't.
It's wrong still, but...
jordan holmes
I feel like it's not wrong anymore.
dan friesen
Boy, it's getting wild.
jordan holmes
I feel like it's not wrong anymore.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
I mean, I know there are crimes, but then there's not crimes.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And I feel like that would not be a crime anymore.
dan friesen
Right.
I don't know, man.
jordan holmes
That's like saying it's a crime to kill Nazis.
dan friesen
It is, I think.
jordan holmes
In World War II?
dan friesen
No, but that's because it was World War II.
jordan holmes
See, we're fighting World War III.
Or not World War III.
We're refighting the Civil War right now.
dan friesen
Civil War II?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now you're getting really dangerously close to Alex's rhetoric, and I'm uncomfortable with that.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
It's 1861 2.0, buddy.
dan friesen
Jesus.
So, in this next clip...
jordan holmes
See, now that would be way better.
If Alex had come out and said, it's 1861 2.0, I would have been like, alright, you are correct.
I don't like it anymore than 1776, but you did nail it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think both are bad.
But be that as it may, this next clip, we get Reverend Manning back in the church.
He's back behind the pulpit.
jordan holmes
He's giving his wife what for one more time.
dan friesen
This is weird.
This clip is very weird.
pastor david manning
It is a shame and a scandalous.
It is a shame and a scandalous that there are not more people outspoken from this community like myself.
Now I want you to think about this for just a second.
Just think about it in fairness and honesty.
You don't have to change your opinion about Barack or about me.
But think what?
unidentified
What have we come to as a people?
pastor david manning
When we are saying to elect a president whose middle name we are ashamed to pronounce.
jordan holmes
Who's ashamed to pronounce?
pastor david manning
Why do we have to hide the middle name of the man that would be president of America?
There's something wrong with that!
jordan holmes
I don't think anybody hit it.
dan friesen
Come on, y 'all.
unidentified
Come on, come on, come on.
jordan holmes
Still on plaques.
pastor david manning
There is something wrong with the fact that we can't pronounce his middle name.
jordan holmes
There is something wrong with that.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
jordan holmes
One, if you think a scandalous is a word, you absolutely cannot understand how to pronounce his name.
Also, he's hitting the wha exactly like Alex does.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
I think it might be a giveaway, like that you're into something wrong.
You know, you're on the wrong side of things if you hit white and all that shit.
jordan holmes
He needs to check his white privilege.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I just, I mean, going back to the clip before this, it's fascinating that he's saying, Martin Luther King said it's not the color of the cookie on the outside, but the color of the cream on the inside.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I remember that.
dan friesen
That's bizarre.
jordan holmes
I remember that.
dan friesen
That's such a...
jordan holmes
Don't you remember that?
dan friesen
That's such the opposite.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, it doesn't get worse than that.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's the wrong lesson.
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter if you're black on the outside so long as you are white on the inside.
I remember Martin Luther King Jr. specifically saying, let's all be white on the inside.
dan friesen
So, Reverend Manning, he talks a lot of shit.
He talks a lot of mad shit.
But he's also a man of action.
jordan holmes
Well, that's worse.
dan friesen
And in this clip, we find out about some of his action.
And I assure you, this is going to lead to a very funny story.
pastor david manning
I'd like to give you an update on where we are on the trial.
I told you we've got a fellow named Dave who's coming in from Idaho.
Dave doesn't have a car, doesn't have an airline fare or bus fare to get here, but he wants to be here at the trial.
And Dave has made a commitment.
He called the office on Monday and said he's going to be hitchhiking all the way from Idaho here to New York for the May 14th fall of the gavel.
Of the trial in the seven-day march around Columbia University.
dan friesen
So, what did you take away from that?
jordan holmes
So, Dave from Idaho.
dan friesen
Who's hitchhiking.
jordan holmes
Who's broke.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Beyond reason.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is going to hitchhike all the way from Idaho to Harlem.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
For the trial.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Do you know what trial that is?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
James David Manning put on a mock trial that he pretended was real.
He was putting Obama on trial that he's ineligible to be president.
And I have a write-up here.
jordan holmes
Is this Clint Eastwood talking to a chair all over again?
dan friesen
It might as well have been.
He claimed 30,000 people were going to show up.
The actual attendance was somewhere in the neighborhood of 75. It was Dave from Idaho.
A reporter from Salon was there, or at least had some pictures that he took documenting.
He gave up, because it was supposed to be a seven-day march.
jordan holmes
Oh, how did that go?
dan friesen
I don't know if he made it all seven days, but he was predicting that on the seventh day when they march...
jordan holmes
Christ would rise.
dan friesen
No, that Obama would step down as president.
He was going to make him step down in 2010, that he would not live out the term.
He's going to be so ashamed by this mock trial.
So here we go.
Dr. James David Manning, the Otlaw World Ministry Church, calls this the trial of the century and the greatest trial in American history.
He says the proceedings are not a mock trial and are permitted under the U.S. Constitution.
Make no mistake about it.
jordan holmes
Where does it say that?
dan friesen
Make no mistake about it.
jordan holmes
Did Martin Luther King Jr. say that?
dan friesen
This is a mock trial.
jordan holmes
I mean, yes, it is clearly permitted because he was not arrested.
dan friesen
It's basically a pageant.
You're putting on a show.
So in Debbie Kidd's article, Obama's Lies Fraud, Can Special Counselor Patrick Fitzgerald Open an Investigation?
She said, quote, The trial, which will include legal scholars and retired court officials, will examine several issues including Obama's birthplace, his citizenship status, his academic credentials, and alleged ties to the CIA as a student.
Dr. Manning coined the term the long-legged Mac Daddy to represent Obama.
Reverend Manning has intestinal fortitude in the face of adversity.
He stands on honor and principle and we should thank him for remaining steadfast in his beliefs and for having the courage to face the Obama machine.
This is one heck of a man of courage with convictions to spare.
Obama's Marxist agenda and Obama himself cannot prevail.
Let the trial begin and may they find Obama guilty.
The mainstream media is not covering this trial, which is true.
There are a couple articles on Salon that aren't articles.
They're just little blurs.
The only thing I could find here is on a WordPress blog.
Someone has written this up.
The mainstream media is not covering this trial, and very little information is being reported.
ConservativeMonster, that's another blog, is attending the trial and blogging information and writing the updates and his take on the trial.
Let's get the information out through emails and whatever other ways are possible.
I thought WorldNetDaily was covering this trial, but haven't seen any articles as of today.
So, we get some updates.
Day one consisted of a protest march around Columbia.
Later on, the indictments were read.
The indictments were handed down via a grand jury.
No, they weren't.
And the subpoenas were refused by Columbia University.
And the Obama administration...
jordan holmes
Direct violation of the Constitution, Dan!
dan friesen
It was not a real grand jury.
jordan holmes
Don't you remember in the Constitution where it said, do not judge a subpoena by the cracker on the outside, but judge it instead by the cheese on the inside?
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what the Constitution said.
dan friesen
So here are the indictments.
jordan holmes
Oh yes, please, please read them all to me.
dan friesen
Columbia University...
jordan holmes
In his voice.
dan friesen
Columbia University...
jordan holmes
That's terrible.
dan friesen
...and Obama conspired to defraud and commit wire fraud and mail fraud.
jordan holmes
Makes sense.
dan friesen
Columbia University knowingly concealed the fact that Obama is not a natural-born citizen.
Columbia University aided in obstruction of justice.
Obama fraudulently obtained office of President of the United States, gaining access to sensitive materials, posing a danger to national security.
Also of note, the prosecution dropped the charges of treason and espionage, That's wonderful!
jordan holmes
I'm glad that even in the fake trial, they're like, hold on.
I don't think we're going to get him on these counts.
dan friesen
This is going to be too complicated.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't think we have enough evidence to convict him of treason.
dan friesen
So 75 or so people marched around Columbia University.
jordan holmes
I mean, frankly, if he's not a natural-born citizen, he can't commit treason.
dan friesen
No, it's true.
jordan holmes
Yeah, see, there you go.
dan friesen
They read these indictments, and a couple people walked around Columbia University on day one.
Now day two comes along.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Day two of the Columbia trial started off with an alternate judge presiding over the case.
jordan holmes
Everyone had to recuse himself.
He was too black.
dan friesen
Jan Johnson is one of Pastor Manning's loyal church followers, and she's also aspiring to run for governor of New York.
Judge Unger is reportedly returning for Sunday's hearing.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
Car broke down or something like that.
jordan holmes
Who knows?
His name is Dave from Idaho.
dan friesen
Judge Johnson then instructed the jury not to discuss the case outside of the courtroom, and they should remain.
To keep an open mind not to make a decision or final determination as far as the verdict.
This is a horse and pony show where one of his church congregants is the judge, the fake judge, and he is the prosecutor.
I think the jury is not going to be a partial jury at all.
jordan holmes
Who's the defense attorney?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Probably like a sack of potatoes.
Who knows?
jordan holmes
A big bag of Oreos.
Or a bucket of poop.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Pastor Manning then stated that George Washington never had the powers that Barack Hussein Obama has.
dan friesen
Manning then mentioned that Obama has an ability to manipulate the media and people unlike any other politician today.
This has given Obama even more power.
Manning then suspiciously states that he would not be surprised if Obama sent a plant to infiltrate the jury to undermine his trial.
jordan holmes
Who would he send?
Who's he going to send?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Malia?
dan friesen
So then there's a list of some very not credible...
jordan holmes
Don Lemon wearing a blonde wig?
dan friesen
He has some non-credible jury...
Not jury...
Witnesses.
Uh-huh.
So...
jordan holmes
Can the judge also be the witness?
Jan Johnson, you are the judge, but I also call you to the stand.
dan friesen
One of his witnesses is his mailman.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, that, okay.
dan friesen
Who alleges in this very not real court that Obama's thing is stamped with a two-digit year, and no one would ever do that.
So he got his mailman to go on record.
jordan holmes
Well, that's a concrete case.
dan friesen
Bentley then testified that Orly Tates hired two investigators and they determined that Obama reportedly had over 30 different social security numbers that came up in the computer when his name was entered.
Bentley then alleged that the number Obama is currently using is from a man that was born in 1890 in Connecticut.
She then noted that Obama never lived in Connecticut.
I don't understand why you need that part.
You don't need that part!
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait.
So they also have to prove that he never lived in Connecticut.
Otherwise, they could not definitively prove that he was not 120 years old.
dan friesen
He could be a vampire, bro.
He could be a vampire.
jordan holmes
That's why he has so many social security numbers, because he's lived for thousands of years.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Bentley also mentioned that if you ran Obama's social security number in the computer, the results came up as Barack Obama, but the number did not belong to him.
Not sure.
jordan holmes
No, that doesn't make sense.
dan friesen
So here's where the postal worker gets involved.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So Pastor Manning then called one of his elders, Jeff Smith, to take the stand due to the fact that he is a postal worker the past 25 years.
Manning then asked him about the controversy over the two-digit and four-digit years.
Smith testified that the post office always uses four digits with his stamped documents and that he was unsure how Obama's selection was.
So there's a bunch of nonsense.
jordan holmes
How weird would it be if you lived in Harlem?
And you all of a sudden discovered that your mail was being delivered by a black-white supremacist.
dan friesen
A guy who went to Atla.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That would be a strange day.
dan friesen
So the rest of the...
I mean, it's interesting to me that the coverage of the case just stops after day two, which leads me to believe that they didn't make it.
jordan holmes
That the case stopped after day two.
dan friesen
They may not have made it to day three.
It's entirely possible.
And so this court was not real.
It was nonsense.
And it's, like, the mental picture of the original judge who was supposed to be there, who I don't think was a judge.
I don't think either of them were real judges.
But the person, like, I just imagine...
You know how, like, if you run a show and someone cancels last minute, you have to sort of scramble to try and get it taken care of, find a replacement?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I imagine fucking Reverend Manning just sitting there like, fuck, I need a new fake judge.
jordan holmes
Just going through his text threads.
dan friesen
All the elders of his church just being like, you gotta come play a judge.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I need you to fake being a judge.
Wait, you have aspirations to be governor, right?
jordan holmes
That's judge worthy.
dan friesen
That's judge.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, this next clip.
This is one of my favorite things that James David Manning has alleged over the years.
This one actually went a little bit viral, so some people...
pastor david manning
I want to inform you that the Sodomites led a protest against our church this past Sunday.
Shocking.
unidentified
Several members of the Pennsylvania Oath Keepers came up.
pastor david manning
You know, the fellows that was with us there in Gettysburg, well, we had a special meeting this Sunday here at the church, and they came up, and we were meeting, and someone informed me that the sodomites were outside of our church protesting.
So we went out and took a look, and they were, and they had a big bucket of Starbucks coffee and all kind of other Starbucks paraphernalia with them.
dan friesen
They like coffee.
pastor david manning
And they were all shouting, stop the hate now.
They said that this church is a hate church.
dan friesen
It is.
pastor david manning
And that I'm a hate preacher.
jordan holmes
And Pike Roast is great.
pastor david manning
But you remember that last week, we appeared in several major online news services, Huffington Post being a major one, The Inquisitor being another.
What else?
Gay Star News, I think, was one.
And just several papers wrote articles about us because we had stated that Starbucks is ground zero for Ebola.
And we pointed up how these...
A homosexual sodomite person such as Dr. Craig Spencer, who lives right here in the Harlem area, who is a sodomite, that they frequent, that Starbucks is a place where these types frequent and a lot of body fluids are exchanged there.
And Ebola, but the thing that I was not aware of is that there had been some...
Information that had been released and the Inquisitor's online news service carried this as a major story the week before that what Starbucks was doing is that they were taking specimens of male semen and they were putting it in the blends of their latte.
unidentified
This is the absolute truth.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
What?
You think they use milk?
That shit's expensive.
You go down the street, you get a gallon of semen.
dan friesen
His argument breaks down to basically the gays like to eat semen and they have a great time.
jordan holmes
And so Starbucks has Ebola.
dan friesen
Right, because they want people to have more of a fun time and get this demon semen inside you.
And so they stealthily put it into Starbucks lattes.
I love this.
jordan holmes
But it's ground zero for Ebola?
dan friesen
Because of the semen and because apparently gay people fuck in the bathrooms.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but that's not Ebola.
dan friesen
Right.
I think...
jordan holmes
Where does the...
Okay.
Scientifically speaking...
dan friesen
But Ebola is sexually transmitted, but it's just also way easier than that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You can...
It's...
Look...
jordan holmes
You can sexually transmit...
An airborne disease, that's true.
dan friesen
Yeah, but look, he's not an epidemiologist.
He's not a doctor.
jordan holmes
Have you gone to his university?
I'll tell you this right now.
You can get an epidemiology degree from him.
dan friesen
He may actually have one.
Of course he does.
This is just great.
This is classic James David Manning shit.
This is my kind of stuff.
The idea that he's going...
jordan holmes
Now, Starbucks!
It is putting semen in the pike roast.
And you know that because the sodomites...
Also, there's veranda.
dan friesen
Fair.
All right.
I shouldn't have called you out.
unidentified
There we go.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
My bad.
jordan holmes
And the sodomites, you know it's true because they were drinking coffee outside my church.
dan friesen
They put piss in the veranda because it's the lighter blood.
jordan holmes
Because it's the lighter blood, of course.
You still gotta get Ebola in there.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, look at this.
So, he's saying that there's information that has come out.
He has no fucking sources on this.
It's the same game Alex plays.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But he's just crazier.
unidentified
Of course.
jordan holmes
He's just...
He's letting it loose.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
This is great.
And it all really...
jordan holmes
This is like drunken high Alex.
dan friesen
More or less.
But he's not high.
No.
Manning's not high.
He's just nuts.
jordan holmes
He's high on white.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, the thing is, I think if we break it down, I think that...
Reverend Manning feels left out.
I think there's a big piece of it that all these sodomites and targeting Starbucks and stuff like that is like, I don't get to have fun.
I don't get to enjoy what everyone else enjoys.
And he's bummed out about it.
And then on top of that, he's repressing homosexual urges.
jordan holmes
And he can't understand that he's the reason he's not having fun.
He thinks that everybody else is the barrier.
All the while, it was him.
Or perhaps his white, creamy center.
dan friesen
Yeah, all that cream.
Yeah.
And I mean, we don't have time to get into it, and it gets super repetitive, but he...
When I say that I believe he is a repressed homosexual, I say that based on having listened to tons of clips of him, where he's like...
Really talking about homosexuality and kind of...
The way he speaks about it is weird.
There is a sensualizing of stuff that doesn't need to be sensualized.
unidentified
Now, these men with their abs and their pecs...
dan friesen
There is a little bit of that.
jordan holmes
They walk around with their tight jeans and they inspire me to have these thoughts that I can't have.
dan friesen
And he talks about how they're going to get you and stuff like that.
It's like, come on, man.
It's very clear.
jordan holmes
He thinks homosexuality is...
dan friesen
More or less.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And Ebola.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, in 2015, December of 2015...
He comes on Alex Jones' show.
I think we've laid out pretty clearly he's a lunatic.
jordan holmes
Now I just want him to name, like, three other diseases.
Is Ebola the only one he knows, which is why he's throwing that out there?
dan friesen
You know what?
jordan holmes
Because, I mean, if you're going to be a raging homophobic monster, you go with HIV.
dan friesen
Caribou coffee is ground zero for the whooping cough.
unidentified
And don't even get me started on old ball pen!
dan friesen
That's going to be a high class disease, like consumption.
It's not high class, never mind.
jordan holmes
No, that's tuberculosis.
dan friesen
Excuse me.
So, like I said, he's a lunatic.
jordan holmes
Hysteria, I believe, is where you get...
dan friesen
Speaking of hysterical people, it's fucking this dude.
So he's on in December of 2015, right when Alex has made his full jump into being on Team Trump.
And he tells Alex, I've made it a mission to try and get Trump in the office.
Right.
And here's what's interesting.
I'd lost track of James David Manning.
He had just blended into the background since the time that he said that the sodomites were putting semen in lattes.
Right.
I went to his YouTube page and I found a video that he released just the other day that is a little bit interesting.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think...
Do you think...
jordan holmes
Does he regret, perhaps, Trump getting elected?
dan friesen
I don't know, but this clip is actually about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
pastor david manning
Let me ask you a question, Sabbath.
You know, I've been friends with Alex Jones for quite some time.
I have not been on his broadcast recently because I don't want to go on Alex's broadcast and sharply disagree with him and then say the things I've said about Tribulation Trump and Tribulation Trump supporters.
So, you know, I have...
I actually turned on the invitation to be on Alex Jones, and I kind of made it plain to him.
jordan holmes
He doesn't support Trump anymore.
dan friesen
He calls him Tribulation Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He believes that he's bringing in the end times.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which begs the question, did he support him originally, secretly, in order to bring in the end times?
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But I don't think that's the case.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
As a man of the cloth, so to speak.
He may be a little bit too close to the end times.
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
Or he's right.
dan friesen
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
I mean, a broken Oreo is right twice a day.
dan friesen
A quadruple stuffed one?
Yeah, exactly.
So I want to just pull up real quick his YouTube page and give you a little bit of a rundown of some of his recent videos.
Because the titles of them include stuff such as Donald Trump is the voice of the racists.
He's turned.
And I don't know exactly what made him turn.
I don't care to go do an investigation.
Into him that deeply.
It would be fascinating.
jordan holmes
It's one of those videos, I'm so glad to announce that I am coming out as gay.
dan friesen
That would be great.
jordan holmes
That would be a good one.
dan friesen
Here's the most recent video that was posted two days ago.
We're recording this on Sunday.
It's collusion, everybody, about how Russian collusion is real.
jordan holmes
Here's how Trump bad is.
Black white supremacists hate him.
dan friesen
There's no hope for white people.
Get your little hands off Twitter, you nasty little critter, and his picture of Trump with tiny hands.
Classic white trash, a picture of Trump and a picture of Trump supporters.
Let's see if we can find some other good ones here.
Trump is the voice of racists in America.
I'm a victim of police brutality.
I don't need to unpack that.
He also used to be a really big advocate of being against socialism and socialized medicine.
He talks about how Barack Obama's trying to destroy the country with all that.
jordan holmes
And then he got sick.
dan friesen
He has a video from a week ago.
Healthcare is a right.
And it's a picture of Bernie Sanders.
Something fucking happened.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think what really happened is he met a white person.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Maybe he found out how awful we actually are.
dan friesen
Trump calls athletes SOBs.
Will Trump pardon Paul Manafort?
There may be Russian death threats.
jordan holmes
Is he on it now?
Did he have a come-to-Jesus moment?
dan friesen
I don't fucking know.
Tribulation Trump is creepy.
jordan holmes
That one's a little bit soft.
dan friesen
Will Michael Cohen flip?
jordan holmes
He's on it.
dan friesen
It's fucked up.
It's so fucked up.
The I like Sanders insurance plan.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
Where were you?
You fucking idiot!
dan friesen
Trump has a pompadour.
What?
jordan holmes
Well, that's true.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Michael Flynn never expected to be in government again.
Reasons why I'm kicking Trump's rump.
jordan holmes
Well, I don't like...
See, this is the thing.
He's really bad at rhyming.
unidentified
But, like, what are we doing?
dan friesen
What happened?
Like, at the end of this episode, you couldn't possibly have imagined that the end result would be in 2017.
He's going against Trump.
He's going after him.
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess he didn't know what white supremacy really was.
dan friesen
Possibly, or maybe he got a payout or something like that.
Who knows?
Soros got to him.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, I gotcha.
dan friesen
I bet that's what Alex would say.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know, but anyway, here's the last clip I'm going to play.
jordan holmes
That must be terrible for Alex, because he really wanted a black person on.
dan friesen
Well, now he has that Brandon Tatum.
He's got that guy who put out a video about how the NFL players need to shut up.
And he is the new non-white male guy.
jordan holmes
He's the new quadruple stuff.
dan friesen
I'm not comfortable with signing off on that, but sure.
So in this last clip, this is from 2017, a very recent clip, Reverend Manning talking about Trump.
pastor david manning
And there is further and more grievous destruction on the way, according to God's word, with respect to the tribulation and the fact that tribulation trumped that Donald Trump is in the office illegally of the president of the United States of America.
dan friesen
Yikes.
So I would argue, actually, it's not reasonable.
And what he's doing is that he realized that his brand works a lot better if he's scaring people.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And that he's always been the guy that you can go to get your daily dose of attacking the president.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So why fucking...
jordan holmes
I mean, if you hated Obama...
So he was significantly smarter than Alex Jones in that regard.
dan friesen
I believe so.
jordan holmes
Because it's like, oh, I hate...
I hate Obama because he's the president, so I'm going to support the guy who hates Obama the most.
And then Trump becomes president, and rather than supporting Trump, he's like, well, I hate the guy who's president now, so I love the guy who hates Trump the most, Bernie.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Or all of us.
dan friesen
Conspiracy theorists and propagandists like these guys.
Legitimately only work as underdogs.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
They can't be in power or else they realize that they become an apparatus of the state.
jordan holmes
Which is what we've seen Alex turn into.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But see, the thing is, the different paths that they've gone down is Reverend Manning realized that element of the game and he's like, fuck, I've got to turn on Trump or else this game doesn't work.
And whatever amount of money he's making is enough to run a church in Harlem.
Like, it's a big building.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he's making enough for that, which is something.
Also, he doesn't pay his taxes.
I just learned.
I'm going to get into that in a second.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean.
dan friesen
But Alex.
jordan holmes
Under the Constitution, he doesn't have to.
dan friesen
Well, he can just have a trial about it.
jordan holmes
He talked to Jan Johnson over there, and he's like, Judge.
Judge Jan.
dan friesen
Governor.
jordan holmes
They also had a fake election.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Whereas Alex, what he decided to do instead is create a false narrative where they're still the underdogs, even though he's the mouthpiece of someone in power.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
And it's kind of interesting.
jordan holmes
Even though he's a state-run propaganda outlet.
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
So now about this tax thing.
I want to leave everyone with this.
This is an article from Gawker.
No, it's Splinter.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Gawker is no more.
dan friesen
But this is an old article.
Splinter News.
It has the same layout as Gawker.
That's what I thought.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, the actual website Gawker is gone, but Jezebel and Deadspin and all of those websites, they stuck around.
dan friesen
Okay, so it's one of the family.
jordan holmes
So Splinter is essentially Gawker.
After a year or a couple of years of Gawker being gone, they're like, that's fine, but...
I mean, we're still going to do it.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Because it's fucking stupid that you shut us down in the first place.
You guys are the monsters, so we're just going to keep going.
dan friesen
Agreed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So on this Splinter article from February of 2016, this homophobic preacher's worst nightmare is about to come true.
This is about Reverend Manning.
On the coldest Valentine's Day weekend in Harlem since 1916, Pastor James David Manning had the fires of hell on his mind.
This is a sodomite government land grab, he told his congregants.
Okay.
unidentified
Outside a sign advertising the church, a four-story brick and terracotta building on the corner of West 123rd Street and Lenox Avenue reads, Jesus would endorse Donald Trump.
dan friesen
As the chief pastor of Atla Worldwide Ministry since 1981, Manning is infamous for preaching homophobia and vulgar conspiracy theories, not just from his pulpit in Harlem, live-streamed twice each Saturday on YouTube, but also his daily internet program, The Manning Report.
Before the recent foreclosure controversy...
Otla Church was probably best known for hosting a mock trial of Barack Obama in which the president was convicted in absentia on 17 counts including treason, fraud, and sedition.
jordan holmes
But they dropped those counts!
dan friesen
Apparently they said that would bring them back.
unidentified
They redid them?
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I'm telling you.
dan friesen
It's possible that this reporting is a little off.
jordan holmes
When that goes to the appeals court, they are going to throw those out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Today's sermon had begun benignly enough.
"We thank God for making it back from the ski trip safe and sound," he said to about 70 worshippers, nearly all of them black women, many of them with young children.
His own wife was seated behind him at the altar.
Soon, though, Manning had to address the elephant in the room.
Last month, a state judge ordered the building into foreclosure, citing $1.02 million in unpaid taxes.
An auction is scheduled to take place on February 24th, and in the stroke of divine irony, the two LGBT service organizations have launched fundraising campaigns to buy the property.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
The day of reckoning was getting closer.
Manning says he believed the court order is invalid on legal grounds, because he has a law degree from his own school.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
He says it has to do with water and sewage taxes that should fall under religious exemption rules.
But, according to public records obtained by the website DNA Info, there are...
At least nine federal tax liens standing against the church, among other debts, despite $186,000 in tax exemption benefits already granted.
Manning said he believes the case to be political retribution for his attacks on Obama, who he believes is a Taliban-trained terrorist who killed his own grandmother.
Quote, they wish to shut me up, cease my ability to amass power and influence, he said in his sermon, but he pledged to fight.
I will continue to pursue Obama until he's in prison, and I believe God has given me the power to do that.
Then, Manning apologized to the congregation.
He had been deficient before, he said, in describing President Obama's late mother, Stanley Ann Dunham.
Quote, not only was she a slut, but she was a two-pair-of-dirty-underwear slut, he said.
There were murmurs of amen from the pews.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
In the third row, a toddler in a three-piece suit played with the rings on his grandmother's fingers, which she held behind her back as she solemnly bowed her head, listening.
jordan holmes
All right, journalists, that's a little bit of a flourish you didn't need.
dan friesen
Well, we're going to get to why I am continuing to read this article, because we'll get to something that is cool.
jordan holmes
So wait, this is recent?
dan friesen
This is 2016.
jordan holmes
Oh, this is 2016.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is a year ago.
jordan holmes
So his church has already been shut down.
dan friesen
I think it might have been.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm not entirely sure.
You know what?
I should have looked that up.
And I will in a second.
But the reason that I want to get through this or get down to it is in a spectacular piece of fun, one of the groups that was trying to buy...
The property is the Allie Forney Center, which is the one that we support.
Yeah, the homeless LGBTQ charity and housing organization that we have donated to in the past and we encourage people to donate to.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
The Allie Forney Center, which serves homeless LGBT youth, has raised at least $200,000 towards the purchase of Outlaw Church.
Rivers of Living Water, an LGBT spiritual group nearby in Harlem, has raised significantly less money for the effort.
The Ali Forney Center is a critical organization.
Of an estimated 1.6 million kids who experience homelessness each year, 40% are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender, according to the Williams Institute, a sex and gender research group at the University of California, Los Angeles.
One survey of homeless LGBT youth in New York found that about half were black.
The most common reason they gave for being homeless is rejection by their family, the Williams Institute found.
They are more likely to drop out of school due to harassment and bullying.
Facing poverty and unemployment challenges, many of them turn to sex.
In 1997, the Ali Forney Center's namesake, a gender non-conforming teen who had moved to the city's shelter system, was shot in the head in Harlem, just 12 blocks away from Atla.
Before he was murdered, Forney would sometimes sleep on the hill in Marcus Garvey Park, just at the end of Atla's block.
He was known for agitating for police investigations into the deaths of his queer friends.
Still 200 homeless gay and transgender youth are on the waiting list for a bed every night, the group says.
Covenant Group, another New York organization that caters to homeless youth, has to turn away 70 to 80 young people every month due to lack of capacity.
Taking over the Atla Church would allow Aliforni Center to put a roof over more heads every night, according to Carl Siciliano, its executive director.
They also wanted to run a catering business.
To feed homeless youths.
And that sort of thing.
jordan holmes
So it's great.
It's almost like it would be awesome if Christians were in the fucking church.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm looking this up.
jordan holmes
Or I mean people who actually fucking...
dan friesen
Here's what it says on Wikipedia.
In January 2016, a state ordered the Outlaw Worldwide Church to be sold at public foreclosure auction after failing to pay creditors more than $1.02 million.
The church maintains they are afforded tax-exempt status by the New York Supreme Court and are not liable for the fines, citing the court's ruling of December 2004.
Ali Forney Center announced their interest in acquiring for the purposes of an LGBT youth homeless service center and raised, we got through all this, a temporary stay on the sale was granted pending a full hearing on the 20th.
21st of April, 2016.
In September, the judgment of foreclosure was vacated, so they still own the property.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
Yeah, that sucks.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
But...
jordan holmes
That could have gone to helping people.
dan friesen
Right, but...
jordan holmes
That could have gone to actually doing God's work.
dan friesen
Jordan, that's bad news for everybody, but the good news is...
pastor david manning
I mentioned this on Saturday for the poll, that someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop, did I tell y 'all that?
dan friesen
So...
There's always that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there is that.
dan friesen
But I wanted to end this clip, or this episode, where we were talking about this horrible bigot and this self-loathing homosexual, probably.
jordan holmes
Black-white supremacist.
dan friesen
With, you know, just a reminder that there are great organizations out there.
And there are tons of them that aren't necessarily the ones that we, you know...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Support.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And so it's great, you know, hearing stuff like that really is a reminder of the realities of the intersections of the world that we talk about, this crazy, bigot, propaganda, conspiracy theorist world, and people who are really trying to help, and people who are not being able to help because of these bigots.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So that is a reminder that all this shit is fucking real.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
It sucks that we have to live in the world that we live in, but we do.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I don't know what we're going to do, man.
dan friesen
I don't either.
jordan holmes
Every day, we should be burning shit down, right?
We're at the stage now where everybody's fucking insane.
It's all crazy.
We're all in this place where we're kind of like children again.
Just like we were in the run-up to the election.
It's like, well, sooner or later the adults are going to step in.
Sooner or later there's going to be somebody who's reasonable who is going to get in the way.
And there's nobody coming.
There's nobody coming.
dan friesen
There's no reinforcements.
jordan holmes
No, it is us.
dan friesen
What you're trying to say is be the change you wish to see in the world.
jordan holmes
Well, it's kind of that.
dan friesen
Or, well, don't be fired.
jordan holmes
The change I want to see in the world is just a lot more fire.
dan friesen
I was sincerely considering starting a hunger strike.
jordan holmes
For what?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Just a generalized...
jordan holmes
Just a general hunger strike?
dan friesen
Yeah, go on a fast or something like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'd be fun.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I had somebody text me earlier like, well, if you want to make a change, you need to get more people to vote.
And I'm just sitting there going like, until we get rid of the oligarchs...
That does not matter.
dan friesen
Voting doesn't really...
I mean, people should vote, but it doesn't really...
jordan holmes
It's not doing it.
Like, who allowed all of this shit to occur?
Who created this whole circumstance?
The people that we fucking voted for.
dan friesen
Right.
The problems with gerrymandering and cross-check and those sorts of disenfranchisement campaigns that have been enacted by these oligarchs.
jordan holmes
Or just our lesser of two evils election system.
dan friesen
That's part of it, too.
But also...
The amount of people that you could probably influence to vote is not as much as will be invalidated by those systems that the nefarious people have put into place.
So yes, you should encourage people to vote, but at the same time, that's not going to fix everything.
It is a toppling of all this bullshit that is in place.
jordan holmes
It has to go.
The entire system is broke.
dan friesen
It needs to be shaken like an Etch-A-Sketch.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We've drawn a really shitty picture, and we just need to start a bit from scratch.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Retain a couple of them amendments that we have in the Constitution in terms of freedoms and shit like that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
The 16th and 17th especially.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And that's second.
jordan holmes
And that second one.
dan friesen
Gotta love it.
jordan holmes
Man, I was...
Have you seen Rory Scoville's special?
He's like, there is a war coming, and it's not going to be us versus Russia.
It's going to be red versus blue.
And right now, all the guns are available.
So, I'm just saying, while they're available, maybe get a gun.
Because they have all the guns.
dan friesen
They got a lot of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, I mean, even Alex Jones is talking about how, like, he's seeing upswings of liberals with guns at the shooting range, and how much of that is just his fear and paranoia is unclear, but I do think you're seeing some liberals arming themselves.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is a little bit like, don't you want water in ten years?
Like, that kind of situation.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
But, like, look, I get where you're coming from.
jordan holmes
It's hard not to feel apocalyptic, is my point.
dan friesen
I get the utility of discussing this and, like, feeling these sorts of things, but at the same time, I don't want us to descend into fear.
jordan holmes
Inciting violence?
dan friesen
Or fear, even.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Just, like, that's not really, that's not what we should do.
That's not where this show works.
Because then we're doing the same thing on the flip side of the thing we're fighting against.
jordan holmes
I don't think we're going for fear, though.
dan friesen
You're talking about buying guns so you can drink water in 10 years.
jordan holmes
I mean, but that's rational.
dan friesen
Alex would think he's rational.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, more like it is something where our genuine...
Like, at this point, I think one of the things that I am holding onto is not fear.
I'm not afraid of this administration or what's going on.
I'm enraged.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is the thing that is inspiring me to actually fucking do shit.
Like, that's inspiring.
I called congressmen.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I did the whole thing.
I've donated money.
dan friesen
Send a bucket of shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I wish.
I wish.
I've done all of this shit.
dan friesen
And it's done fucking nothing.
Do you think whoever left that bucket of shit heard you?
jordan holmes
I hope so.
dan friesen
Because you've advocated for shitting on people's lawns.
jordan holmes
I've advocated for shitting on people's lawns a lot.
How recent was that?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't remember.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
If it's in the past ten months, I think it's me.
dan friesen
It's entirely possible that we got someone to...
jordan holmes
If you are a policy wonk that left a bucket of shit on his doorstep...
dan friesen
Send us a message.
We won't snitch.
jordan holmes
You get so many buttons.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Send a lot of buttons.
Yeah.
But, hey, let's wrap this up.
Because I'm tired and we're both hungover and we want to go to bed.
But we have a website.
jordan holmes
People can go to knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
That's correct.
We're also on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.
jordan holmes
We're on iTunes.
dan friesen
Please.
jordan holmes
Share the show.
We like it when people listen.
Dan, you do occasionally get grandiose.
In some of your texts regarding our importance?
dan friesen
No, no, no.
I'm grandiose in terms of the problem.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And how I don't think anyone's looking at it correctly.
That's slightly grandiose.
jordan holmes
It is slightly grandiose, but that's...
I mean, you are still making...
I read so many takes.
I can't do takes anymore.
dan friesen
We gotta come up with some takes.
jordan holmes
There's no take that is doing anything.
Get off Twitter and fucking...
Do something.
dan friesen
Send a bucket of shit to somebody.
jordan holmes
Make a show or send a goddamn bucket of shit.
Or just fucking do the work.
unidentified
Because there's shit that needs to be done.
dan friesen
Because Alex Jones, of his many sins that include bigotry, include being an idiot.
jordan holmes
It's telling you not to do anything.
dan friesen
And one of the greatest sources of a lot of those problems is his steadfast refusal to read anything.
His steadfast refusal to check into what people are telling him.
And if you don't fall into the same trap, the world would be a better place.
jordan holmes
Yeah, which is another good point.
Don't just believe us.
dan friesen
Well, except about James Manning.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, hey, now he's turned a new leaf, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's come to our side.
dan friesen
I'm still not on his side.
jordan holmes
He's a Bernie bro.
That's what's going on right now.
dan friesen
I'm still not on his side.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because he still talks about the sodomites and shit.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, that's not great.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I'm not for them.
dan friesen
I can't get on board.
Also, we're on Facebook!
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
dan friesen
You thought I wasn't going to do that.
jordan holmes
I was trying.
dan friesen
But also, we're on Twitch today.
This is coming out on Monday.
I will be live.
You will not be.
jordan holmes
I will not be here until Tuesday.
dan friesen
But Tuesday and Wednesday, we'll have live shows with me and Jordan.
jordan holmes
I'll be there.
dan friesen
At 8 p.m. Central Time at twitch.tv slash knowledgefight.
Please come join us.
Have some fun.
There's a lot of fun stuff that happens in the chat room.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the people in our chat room are fucking fantastic.
They're great.
I was a little bit trepidatious regarding the chat room idea, because I wasn't sure what would...
dan friesen
It's unwieldy.
jordan holmes
I wasn't sure how that would shake out, but we actually have so many smart, interesting people in there.
dan friesen
Yeah, it makes it all worthwhile.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and they're adding to the show, which is really, really fucking cool.
dan friesen
Yeah, I love it.
And we have one of our wonks out there.
Big shout out to...
I don't know what screen name I should use, and I don't know their real name, so who cares.
But a big shout-out to the listener who keeps trying to call into InfoWars.
And I believe at this point has not gotten through, but I appreciate the effort.
Yeah.
unidentified
I like the idea.
dan friesen
That's real cool.
Anyway, let's wrap this up.
jordan holmes
And they are not screening.
He's definitely proved that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
So, you know, we usually end by telling John Rappaport to follow...
dan friesen
I think in this instance...
Reverend Manning really takes priority.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
This guy, I've been waiting to talk about him forever.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I'm thrilled to finally be able to have a discussion.
Bring him into your world.
jordan holmes
Unfortunately, he has all of his teeth, I'm assuming.
dan friesen
I believe so, yes.
But, you know, he's officially number two after Professor Hamamoto in terms of my favorite crazies.
jordan holmes
And your favorite type of crazy.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, but the reason that Hamamoto's got to be up at number one is that he has an arc to him that is fascinating to me.
Right, right, right.
Respected scholar in the world.
Like a very interesting area of study.
jordan holmes
Who descends into madness.
dan friesen
Who just goes crazy and turns supervillain.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And thinks about gay guitars and disruptive protests.
And there's fucking...
jordan holmes
I brought my pink guitar and they wouldn't let me sit in.
And said I can't do it, brother.
I could not believe it.
dan friesen
He thinks that Janet Napolitano is involved with weird rays and electronic pulses that are going through.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but that one's true.
dan friesen
Right.
So he's never, I don't think he's ever going to be bumped out of the number one spot, but number two, very close behind him is this Reverend Manning.
And we might revisit him again, because he is a well that is deep.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we could do...
jordan holmes
We got another Carrie Callahan on our hands.
dan friesen
I believe so.
Cassidy.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
dan friesen
Who, unfortunately, again, is a bigot.
jordan holmes
I wanted that not to be true.
dan friesen
It's unfortunate.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
I was so hoping that her crazy was completely untethered.
dan friesen
Turns out she's anti-Semitic.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
dan friesen
Also, I'd like to end this show by saying, Carrie Cassidy, go fuck yourself.
And, Reverend Manning, although I think a lot of things you say are incredibly funny for the wrong reasons, you need to go fuck yourself, you dumb, bigoted piece of shit in a bucket outside your own church.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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