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#83: November 10-12, 2015

[Please forgive the tech glitch we experienced in the first 10 min of this episode. We are figuring out new workflows, and unfortunately encountered some clipping. We appreciate your understanding] Today, Dan tells Jordan all about another installment in his investigation into what happened in 2015 to make Alex Jones lose his mind and join up with Trump. Not a lot of Trump action on this episode, but Alex does flex on Dan's alma mater, the University of Missouri, so Dan sets him straight. Then, Alex brings on a cavalcade of completely insane guests.

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alex jones
20:01
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dan friesen
01:30:48
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darrell hamamoto
06:48
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jordan holmes
33:50
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mancow
03:50
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rima laibow
01:43
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dr rima laibow
00:22
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rand paul
00:28
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
dan friesen
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
unidentified
Hello.
dan friesen
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's pretty much what we do.
dan friesen
That's most of it.
jordan holmes
Let me ask you a question, though.
dan friesen
I got an answer for you.
jordan holmes
All righty.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
When the Earth was about 3 billion years old.
Right.
Immediately following the...
dan friesen
I've got to stop you already.
The Earth is like 2,000 years old.
We all know that.
jordan holmes
Oh, fair enough.
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Or 5,000 years old?
jordan holmes
Six.
According to my super Christian family, it is 6,000 to 8,000 years old.
dan friesen
So the Earth was about 4,000 years old when old JC came around?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
And, you know, it was immediately following the Earth being just a giant volcano pit.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Was Alex Jones alive then?
dan friesen
He was not.
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
dan friesen
I know this much.
jordan holmes
Because he's pretty confident that he has race memory.
dan friesen
No, those ancestors that were around then are still around now.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
And they are with him.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
But he was not.
See, this is...
I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
And we've just demonstrated that.
jordan holmes
That was actually a pretty solid bit, right?
That one worked out.
dan friesen
It was alright.
jordan holmes
Ah, it was 50-50.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we will be going through another installment of my investigation into 2015 to see what the hell happened to Alex Jones to get him to join up with Team Trump.
jordan holmes
Russia.
dan friesen
And we learn nothing today.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We will learn zero about Trump, zero about the campaign, but we will learn a great deal about...
Crazy Weirdos that Alex chooses to associate with.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
That will be the flavor.
jordan holmes
I'm a big fan of Crazy Weirdos, as demonstrated in the past.
dan friesen
Last we left off on the show, in the investigation...
Alex had indicated that he may have been in contact with Russian intelligence.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
He was spouting nothing but pro-Putin lines.
jordan holmes
All day.
dan friesen
And he had not supported Donald Trump yet.
jordan holmes
1776 0.0.
dan friesen
Right.
Zilch on Americana.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
But that's where he is.
And I think that's the end of a certain piece of the investigation.
And as much as, like, whoa.
jordan holmes
He got marching orders.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm starting to realize more and more that the reality is that there's probably two concurrent investigations that we're doing that we think are connected and they aren't.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
One of them is the accidental investigation of Alex Jones loves Putin.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Right.
And we're doing this investigation about Trump and I don't think that they're necessarily one-to-one related.
jordan holmes
Uh, yeah, that probably makes sense.
dan friesen
I don't think that necessarily there's a, like, specific causation.
Because as we're...
jordan holmes
They're just highly correlated.
dan friesen
As we're gonna find out on this episode, he doesn't, like, immediately after his Putin's great, all this stuff just...
Dive in and support Trump.
jordan holmes
That's true.
What we need to do is a regression analysis.
I think that's an important thing to do.
dan friesen
How would we do that?
jordan holmes
We would put numbers on a graph.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
And that's all I know about statistics.
dan friesen
All right.
unidentified
Sounds good.
jordan holmes
I was pretty stoked to remember the words regression analysis as like a correlation causation thing, or maybe it's not.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Did you learn that in college?
jordan holmes
No.
I learned it from the book Freakonomics, of which I remember nothing.
dan friesen
You just blew my awesome segue that I was going to get into our first clip with.
jordan holmes
I'm trying to ruin your transitions now.
You're so good at them, I feel like I've got to give you a handicap.
dan friesen
Well, speaking of handicaps...
jordan holmes
Goddamn!
unidentified
College is a handicap to most people, according to Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
All right, all right.
dan friesen
As we know, he believes that colleges are basically brainwashing factories.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
Just like our man John Rapoport.
dan friesen
Indeed.
jordan holmes
Go fuck yourself.
dan friesen
And so today we're coming from November 10th to November 12th, 2015.
And something that had happened right around then becomes very important to Alex's narrative.
And he gets off the...
Political bent altogether and jump whole hog into this.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And that is that the University of Missouri system president stepped down.
jordan holmes
That's a big deal.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
When the system president steps down, you know that's a big deal.
Because you know what a system president is.
dan friesen
The guy's name is Tim Wolfe, and he was in charge of...
Four University of Missouri schools.
unidentified
Oh!
jordan holmes
So it was a whole...
He was the president of all of them, not just one of them.
dan friesen
Like, University of Missouri at Columbia, my alma mater.
Uh-huh.
University of Missouri Rolla.
I can't remember the other two.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There were, like, four campuses.
He stepped down, and it was due to pressure that was put on him.
It's not even necessarily Black Lives Matter protests, but it was African American students who had very serious complaints about the way the university was dealing with racial relations.
jordan holmes
So he's a giant racist piece of shit.
dan friesen
He may not be, but he oversaw a system.
That was negligent in many ways.
And this student group came out of, sort of naturally came together, called Concerned Student 1950.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which is a reference to 1950 was the first year that the University of Missouri systems allowed in black students.
There's a whole bunch of stuff that we're going to get into.
jordan holmes
So the real 1776 2.0.
dan friesen
Indeed.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's a lot we're going to get into about the reality of that situation that I happen to know a lot about.
jordan holmes
I can't think of any reason why you might know a lot about it.
dan friesen
I'm from Columbia, Missouri.
jordan holmes
Oh, really?
dan friesen
I went to that university.
My parents, or at least my dad, taught there for a long time.
And I still have a ton of friends.
Associates, I guess.
unidentified
Associates.
dan friesen
I was trying to think of, like, what's not a friend?
unidentified
Acquaintances.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I have a lot of...
jordan holmes
Associates.
dan friesen
I have a lot of boots on the ground in Columbia.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And I'm pretty aware of what's going on there.
jordan holmes
Let me...
Here's a question that I've always wondered about the resignations and that kind of bullshit.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Does it ever actually change anything?
Because the theory behind resigning is like, oh, hey...
We need you to go away, so we'll hire somebody who can actually implement the shit that we need done.
But to me, it seems more like it's just rebranding.
You know, like whenever a company fucks up so hard, they just change their name.
dan friesen
Right.
I think there's something to that.
Yeah, in this case, I definitely don't think that it changed that much.
jordan holmes
Spoiler alert, Missouri is still a very racist state.
dan friesen
There are problems.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Beyond that even, the demands, the specific demands that the students were making, they had to reiterate even after the guy stepped down.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
Because things weren't being taken care of.
jordan holmes
Oh, who would have guessed?
dan friesen
But let's get to this.
Here's the first clip from November 10th where Alex...
alex jones
I said yesterday the professors are getting kicked out, the president has been kicked out or resigned for the crime of being white.
jordan holmes
That has become a crime.
alex jones
And this is the hysteria that is being created, the crime of being white and being male.
In all of these videos, if you see who is commanding the young, mindless adults, Who are giggling and laughing and having a mindless, raw gang member exercise of power.
unidentified
Fuck you.
alex jones
You will notice it is...
Feminist professors.
unidentified
Fuck you.
alex jones
And we've already looked up three of them.
We're working on an article right now identifying their writings and what they stand for.
dan friesen
Hard-hitting journalism on Alex Jones' part.
jordan holmes
Un-fucking-real.
dan friesen
Yeah, pretty bad.
jordan holmes
Way to start the fucking day, Dan.
dan friesen
Sorry.
jordan holmes
Thanks for that.
dan friesen
Sorry, dude.
jordan holmes
Now I've got to deal with all this race bullshit while we're fucking fighting against all...
Even in fucking Missouri, which should be on fire.
St. Louis should be burnt to the ground.
dan friesen
Well, it's interesting because St. Louis actually has a big piece to play in the story of what Alex Jones is talking about.
Because this concerned student 1950 group largely came out of a lack of response on the administration's part of the administration.
Blase in denunciations of violence against African Americans.
jordan holmes
Hey, there's bad guys on both sides.
dan friesen
I don't even think they went that far.
I think it was just sort of an, eh, I'm talking about it.
So in 2014, there were those protests, and there were student groups who demanded, hey, recognize that this is something, put out a statement, that sort of thing.
Then there wasn't really a response to it.
Then, a little bit later, there was a swastika drawn, and the word Heil was thrown in charcoal on the wall of a residence hall in April of that year.
The authorities arrested freshman resident Bradley Becker days later and charged him with secondary property damage.
motivated by discrimination.
Becker pleaded guilty in October and will serve two years probation.
So that happened.
Like I've brought up many, many times, when I went to school there, there was an incident where some guys who were white put a bunch of cotton all around the Legion of Black Allegiance office, which is not a coincidence.
You know, it's not like, I just randomly threw some stuff there.
It would be a racist situation.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So the end of the studio.
Why?
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Fucking why?
unidentified
Like, what possible reason could they have?
jordan holmes
I know, but for that.
dan friesen
Intimidation.
jordan holmes
What kind of asshole, or group of assholes, because that must be what it is.
So they're intimidating them for...
dan friesen
Shut up.
Know your place.
jordan holmes
That's fucking insane!
dan friesen
It's only insane to you because you're not an idiot.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
It's insane to us.
It's insane to conceive of as something you would want to do.
But if you are someone who's super caught up in your whiteness and you're threatened by quote-unquote uppity black people, then why wouldn't you do things like the Klan used to do with burning crosses?
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's that sort of thing.
It's a message.
Be like, hey, we're out here.
We're out here.
jordan holmes
But it has to be, like, there has to be a meeting.
Like, they have to get together and figure out the best way to be a fucking racist.
dan friesen
Well, there undoubtedly was.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly!
Like, there's a group of people standing around, like, blue sky thinking, like, throwing shit out there.
Like, what's the best way to be racist?
Let's spray-paint the N-word.
Nah, that's not subtle enough.
dan friesen
I lived in Missouri.
They didn't have formal meetings.
They would just meet down by the river.
Or down by the big tree, which is a real thing.
It's a real awesome huge tree.
jordan holmes
Meet down by the big tree.
dan friesen
Me and my buddies used to go drink at the big tree.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
There's just a huge fucking tree that was out in the middle of nowhere.
jordan holmes
Alright, no offense, but we don't need Missouri anymore.
dan friesen
It's great.
jordan holmes
You guys were on the fence in the Civil War.
I'm out.
dan friesen
I cherish that part of my history and I had a lot of great memories out by the big tree.
So, on September 12th of...
jordan holmes
Apparently so did racists.
dan friesen
September 12th, the student body president is called the N-word by a group of young people driving by in a pickup truck.
The student body president was an African-American dude.
Then, the Legion of Black Collegians had a play rehearsal that they were putting on for homecoming, as a part of the homecoming court, and a, quote, inebriated white man walked by and called them all the N-word.
Started screaming the N-word at them.
jordan holmes
It should be decriminalized to get your ass kicked.
After you call a group of black people the N-word.
dan friesen
I would say so.
jordan holmes
Like, it shouldn't be a crime.
dan friesen
After this, there were...
jordan holmes
Your Honor, he called me the N-word.
Good.
You beat the shit out of him.
Get out of here.
dan friesen
After this, the students had voiced concerns to administration.
And a lot of professors and a lot of departments, including a lot of the soft humanities departments that I was super familiar with in college, they started to get on board, but the administrative levels, they were not.
People were not dealing with these issues.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And so this Concerned Student 1950 group came into being.
And on Homecoming...
There was the parade, and of course you have the student groups, you have the president of the U.M. system, Tim Wolfe, and he is a part of the parade.
So this concerned student 1950 group gets together, and they block his car.
They form a protest, and they block his car in order to get him to recognize their demands that they have not received a response from.
So at this point...
jordan holmes
You can see how different it is, right?
If you are on the right side, you are a group of people who are public and who are just telling everybody, like, hey, this is what's going on.
If you're on the wrong side, you're a group of people who, in the dark of night, throw cotton at places.
That's what the difference is.
dan friesen
It's pretty overt.
jordan holmes
How is it they can't just stop and think, wait a second.
Are we the bad guys?
dan friesen
Are we fucking this up?
jordan holmes
Are we the ones who shouldn't be doing this?
dan friesen
I really don't feel great about what we're doing.
jordan holmes
I mean, I like you, Jedediah.
But maybe we're racist.
dan friesen
I don't think that Jedediah is necessarily...
jordan holmes
Oh, Jedediah's there.
dan friesen
No, you're...
jordan holmes
That's Missouri, right?
dan friesen
No, I think you should go more towards the area of, like, Moose.
jordan holmes
Okay, all right.
Oh, that's a good point.
I should go with Moose.
dan friesen
I hate to bring that up because I had a friend named Moose.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
It was great.
jordan holmes
Yeah, all right.
dan friesen
It's just the brand of hillbilly name you're going to get in Missouri.
It's not Jedediah.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
That's hill folk.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
That's different.
That's very different than the sticks of Missouri.
jordan holmes
I apologize.
dan friesen
I appreciate that.
So during this parade, they block his car.
They block Tim Wolfe's car.
And they get moved along by security.
But one of the big things that they had issue with was that Tim Wolfe didn't get out of the car and address their concerns.
He didn't get out and say anything to them or do anything to calm down the situation.
jordan holmes
Right.
Because he's a rich fucking white dude.
dan friesen
In fact, what he did was hit one of them with his car.
But, this is actually something that I think is very iffy.
Because I've watched the video of this, and the car's moving very slowly, and it also appears that the person that he hits got in the way of his car after being out of the way of his car.
So, I see that there is a little bit of a both sides thing on this.
Like, it's incredibly unacceptable at any speed to hit someone with your car, but I don't think it was intentional.
I don't think it was...
jordan holmes
He just had a slow reaction time?
dan friesen
Or whoever was driving.
I don't think he was driving in the car.
And, yeah, I don't think it was like a, hey, fuck you, I'm gonna hit you with the car.
But, of course, it made people even madder.
Because it comes on the tail of him not being responsive to the student's demands.
And it's like, oh, this is even a bigger fuck you.
So, after that point, the concerned student, 1950, released a list of demands.
And one of them is that Tim Wolfe needs to resign.
He has not done a good job of addressing our concerns.
He's not...
Making the campus a safe place for minority students.
And on top of that, one of their other big demands was representation in the faculty of minorities.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
They wanted 10% of the faculty to be representative of minority groups.
jordan holmes
Like a statistically population representation.
Right.
Black people are 10% of the population, so they feel like that.
dan friesen
And at that point, it was not.
It was not representative at all.
jordan holmes
0.01%.
dan friesen
No, it was more than that.
But it was at a point where there was a need for...
Greater representation.
And then beyond that, one of their big demands was more funding for mental health services.
And on top of that, representation of minority groups within the people working in student health centers and psychiatric or psychological help centers.
Because that also makes total sense.
jordan holmes
So, completely and utterly reasonable request.
dan friesen
Right.
The only one that you could conceivably argue with Is the removal of the president of the school, but I do think it's reasonable under the circumstances.
unidentified
He should be gone and do some jail time, too.
dan friesen
After that, on October 24th, they found a swastika made out of poo in the Mark Twain residence hall.
jordan holmes
That one we've talked about before.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And we kind of have an ironic...
That kind of has an ironic feel to it, right?
dan friesen
It's hard to say.
The feeling that we had is like, if you were actually a Nazi, you wouldn't make a swastika out of shit.
It's confusing, but at the same time, obviously, people took that as a message of like, well, it is Nazi iconography, and people took it to feel that...
jordan holmes
I know, I feel like the message there, though, is that Nazis are shit.
dan friesen
The association...
jordan holmes
It seems obvious, right?
dan friesen
No, I don't think that is necessary.
jordan holmes
You don't think so?
dan friesen
No.
Hall Association President Bill Donnelly said, after this event, and including the other swastika that was drawn in charcoal a mere month and a half earlier, after this event, it's become clear to me that the inclusivity of our residence hall has been threatened, which is a reasonable sort of concern.
So, on October 26th, which is six days after this poo swastika is found, The concerned student, 1950, announced that it had met with Wolfe, the faculty president, Tim Wolfe.
Unfortunately, this meeting did not go great.
Here's a quote.
Wolfe verbally acknowledged that he cared for black students at the University of Missouri.
However, he also reported he was not completely aware of systematic racism, sexism, and patriarchy on campus.
jordan holmes
Sounds very patriarchal to say.
dan friesen
Right.
It shows, given the pattern of incidents, and this list of stuff that we're going over doesn't even include a lot of other stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
So at that point, that was October 26th, on November 2nd, a 25-year-old grad student named Jonathan Butler started a hunger strike.
He believed that it was that serious, and he was ready to die for the cause, and other students began camping out on campus in solidarity with him.
So a tent city started to exist on the commons area at the University of Missouri.
jordan holmes
I'm sure the administration and the security were like, we're very respectful, and we will allow you to do this protest.
dan friesen
At this point, it did become a thing where they were like, we're not going to fuck around.
We're not going to mess with them, necessarily.
Because I think that they got the...
They got the PR of it?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We're already down 20 points.
Maybe don't dig a deeper hole.
dan friesen
No unforced errors.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So here is a quote from Jonathan Butler.
As much as the experiences on campus have not been that great for me, I had people call me the N-word.
I had someone write the N-word on the door of my residence hall.
For me, it really is about a call for justice.
I'm fighting for the black community on campus because justice is worth fighting for and justice is worth starving for.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he ended up having a hunger strike.
I think it lasted about a week because on the 9th, I believe, yeah, on the 9th, Tim Wolfe ended up stepping down.
Now, that only happened because on November 7th, the University of Missouri football team went on strike.
To join up with Jonathan Butler and the students who were in the tents on campus.
jordan holmes
So the university would have lost money.
unidentified
Indeed.
jordan holmes
Wonder why that made a difference.
dan friesen
The football team announced that they had pledged to stop participating in football-related activities for the remainder of the season unless Wolfe resigned or was fired.
The head coach, Gary Pinkle, was in support of this.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
He tweeted out a picture.
jordan holmes
That's surprising.
dan friesen
He tweeted out a picture of the entire football program with the subject line, the Mizzou family stands as one, we are united, we are behind our players, hashtag ConcernedStudent1950, signed Gary Pinkle.
So at that point...
The situation is very serious because the university would have to pay $1 million to Brigham Young University if they canceled the next game.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And so Wolf immediately resigned.
Actually, that's not fair because the student football team on the 7th makes that announcement.
On the 8th, Wolf is like, I'm not going anywhere.
jordan holmes
And then on the 9th, he's gone.
dan friesen
He is gone on the 9th.
But it also comes after legislators called on him to resign.
Representative Stephen Cookson, a Republican chairman of the Missouri House Committee on Higher Education, said, quote, Wolf can no longer effectively lead the university system, and he called Wolf's reaction to protesters' concerns callous.
That's good.
That's a Missouri Republican.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but, I mean, two things there.
Probably a football fan.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
So there's that.
Also, think about how surprised we are at a Republican condemning racism.
dan friesen
Or any representative, really.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
That's not great.
dan friesen
So Governor Jay Nixon.
jordan holmes
Like, you have to hit Republicans so hard because everybody's like, what?
dan friesen
We gotta give credit, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
The GOP is so inherently racist that if any one of them goes, Hey, racism is bad.
We're like, holy shit, you're a hero.
dan friesen
Right.
So the Democratic governor, Jay Nixon, said that he supported the campus protesters.
Quote, These concerns must be addressed to ensure the University of Missouri is a place where all students can pursue their dreams in an environment of respect, tolerance, and inclusion.
A bunch of faculty members said that they were going to stage a walkout, and then immediately Tim Wolfe resigned.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So that is...
jordan holmes
So Alex has interpreted this as, it is a crime to be white.
dan friesen
Yes, and Tim Wolfe, his big crime is that he is white, which is crazy.
jordan holmes
That makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
It is a massive and repeated inability or unwillingness to deal with the concerns that are being brought to you by these student organizations.
Yeah.
I apologize.
jordan holmes
Imagine if it was a white student organization.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Would Alex feel the same way?
dan friesen
Let's not even fucking play games with hypotheticals.
jordan holmes
Why even bother with that?
Yeah, because of course he's going to feel different.
dan friesen
Of course.
He's going to be like, they're victims.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Support these whites.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that is the reality of the situation.
And I've left out some stuff that did happen that Alex doesn't bring up because some of it ended up being a little bit of bullshit.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
There were rumors going around that the Klan was on campus and shooting at windows and stuff like that.
There were just internet gossip and rumors that started going around that accidentally ended up getting way more play than they should have.
And then people were like, we apologize, that was bad information that we got.
jordan holmes
Sensationalism.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But the rest of the stuff is very real.
And the rest of the stuff is legitimate concerns.
And now we get in and go through the episode.
I apologize that that was a little bit long.
They needed the reality.
jordan holmes
It provided perfect context.
dan friesen
And now, moving forward...
jordan holmes
No apology necessary, Dan.
dan friesen
We can hear what Alex Jones has to say about Missouri, my home state, that for all its troubles, I still love dearly, but we can't immediately...
jordan holmes
All right, moose.
dan friesen
I'd be happy to be a moose.
Bullwinkle's a moose.
jordan holmes
That's true.
That's true.
We've got one good moose.
dan friesen
So, we can't get to Alex Jones' thoughts about Missouri immediately, though, because he gets really sidetracked on some incredibly fucked up topics, and here's one of them.
alex jones
When I was growing up, 13, 14, 15, I wasn't really in a gang, but me and my friends were out anywhere in the city in Dallas every week.
A couple times a week, people would jump out of cars or run up and say, this is our neighborhood.
We're getting ready to fight.
We would just fight.
dan friesen
Buckle up, knuckle up.
alex jones
And sometimes it was rednecks.
Sometimes it was black guys.
A lot of times it was racial.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
alex jones
But in my experience, I always got to enjoy it being racial from the minorities against me because I was white.
I mean, I'll guarantee you, most black folks out there haven't been in a bunch of knockdown drag outs with white people that just attacked them because they were black.
Most whites are completely castrated cowards, self-hating, mind-control victims.
But I never even gave in to the racism, and I transcended it, because I also ran into being in small towns in other areas or at a bonfire many times when college-age men would show up and want to beat up high school students and act tough and try to knock me upside the head with post hole diggers.
dan friesen
That's a shovel.
alex jones
I mean, I've been at parties with kegs of beer by the lake up by Dallas.
When people got basically, you know, hurt really bad.
jordan holmes
The big dream.
alex jones
On both sides.
So I understood it was tribal at even the age of 14 or 15. Great.
That it was groups of men would use an excuse to get organized and get angry at somebody else, just like groups of men, black men, Hispanic men, white men, mixed groups, for 60, 70 years will go to known gay bars and rob them and beat them up.
Now, they wouldn't go rob a normal patron coming out of a bar at midnight.
But they would do it.
To the homosexual community because, well, they deserve it.
You see, it's a form of discrimination.
Well, if you're a white male now and you're on a university, you are told you're inherently bad and there's no way to grovel hard enough for any form of forgiveness to be given to you.
And I've been talking about that for a long time.
Well, you see this in these videos where it's a bunch of angry people screaming their voices out for days.
It's been going on for two weeks, actually.
Just running around crazed because you don't become successful inventing something or writing a book or opening a business or working well with others in a company and having innovative ideas.
That's all companies are looking for, let me tell you.
I don't care what color you are.
You get the job done.
You love liberty.
I love you.
But this is a manufacturing facility to put chips on people's shoulders and to totally, absolutely jack your brain.
Jack your brain.
dan friesen
Jack it.
alex jones
And this is gang mentality.
This is people that weren't in the gang fights, that didn't go through the hazing rituals, who were brought up in front of television with their liberal parents, teaching them how to be upset, how to be victimized, how to only be in a group.
Now exploring revolution.
Exploring military science.
This is the most base-level, 10,000 B.C. level science that they're manifesting.
unidentified
So, at this point, the reason I left that- Now they're manifesting science?
dan friesen
Well, I left that clip in in its entirety there because I wanted to get the beginning of him being like, I was in racist, but not racist gang fights when I was a kid.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Not racist.
It was mostly minorities being racist against white people.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Somehow white people are the victim yet again.
dan friesen
But he transcended it, and it's all tribal and what have you.
jordan holmes
He said he transcended racism.
dan friesen
If you go to his current state of being, I don't know if that's fair.
To say he transcended anything.
But at the same time, it goes into then, like, it's all just tribal, like how people go beat up gays outside gay bars because they're not normal.
jordan holmes
It's like, oh boy, oh boy.
dan friesen
But the reason I kept it in as a whole was the journey from the racist, not racist gang fights to the end where he's like, these students who are making legitimate concerns...
Voiced and not being heard at all, so they take it to the next level of this hunger strike, this public protest, this getting the...
I don't even know if they...
Yeah, I doubt it.
But all of those things he's saying, it's like, oh, they're just doing this because they weren't in racist gang fights when they were younger.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
That's fucked up.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
unidentified
That's so crazy to me.
jordan holmes
They didn't go through the hazing ritual, so then they have to peacefully protest?
dan friesen
The rites of passage.
jordan holmes
Nah, bullshit.
dan friesen
Rites of passage.
jordan holmes
They should have transcended racism.
I just...
Dan, why do you want to come work for our company?
dan friesen
Because I've transcended racism.
jordan holmes
No, we were looking for Love Liberty.
That's what we were looking for.
Sorry, you can't work here.
What's your five-year plan?
Is it Liberty?
No, get out.
dan friesen
All right, fine.
I'm going to go to Breitbart.
It's fine.
So, in this next clip, Alex, his main conception is here on the 10th.
Like I said, we walked through the history, and it was just a day earlier, Tim Wolfe had resigned.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so that's what he's responding to.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
It's not the months of lead-up to this that he could have been aware of if he wanted to.
jordan holmes
Nah.
dan friesen
But his conception is that what's going on is like the Chinese student revolution.
jordan holmes
That one didn't go great.
dan friesen
But he's saying that this is the beginning of that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that it's just going to turn us into a Maoist state, all this shit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so he's going...
jordan holmes
I don't think we're going to try and kill all the intellectuals.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
Again.
dan friesen
No.
But he's responding to it as if it was that, instead of dealing with the reality and listening to people.
And so here's how he responds, which is really scary.
alex jones
Then we're going to go to the latest in Missouri, and it is over the top.
I mean, you want to see what totalitarianism looks like?
You want to see what it looked like in the first years of Mao in China?
jordan holmes
Peaceful protest.
alex jones
This is where it all began, with the young people being the most radical and being given power by the system to absolutely go hog wild.
unidentified
Of course, here, I'm sorry for you guys.
alex jones
Our forebearers were ready for this.
We got the jump on you about 200-something years.
I'm sorry, but you're really going to give a rude awakening if you try to run a military operation against the patriots of this country.
All your Southern Poverty Law Center propaganda is going to fall flat on its face because we've totally educated the police and the military.
So it pretty much came over for you, scum.
Let's go ahead and go to part of this.
dan friesen
So, yeah.
jordan holmes
Do you think he must not know the context at all, right?
He's just going straight from the hip.
Like, he heard that a white president stepped down because black people were protesting.
So he's just shooting from the hip.
This is all white victimhood.
He has no idea what the fuck is going on.
Definitely doesn't realize it's peaceful at all.
Or, who cares if it's peaceful?
Something should be burnt down.
I'm in a very burn shit down mood today.
dan friesen
Well, the only things that he ever brings up really are the poop swastika and someone maybe allegedly yelling the N-word at somebody at a party.
jordan holmes
Allegedly.
dan friesen
Right.
So those are the only things he brings up.
Now, there's one other thing that we should deal with because it does come up eventually.
First of all, he's threatening to shoot them.
That's what he's doing there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's saying that...
jordan holmes
We've got 280 years on you.
dan friesen
Our forefathers thought about this.
He's talking about the Second Amendment.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's fucked up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But the other thing is...
jordan holmes
Are you saying the Second Amendment is entirely about shooting black people?
Because I think that's what Alex is saying.
dan friesen
Right.
So the other thing that we need to deal with is the downside of what happened in Missouri.
And this is unfortunate.
And Alex will yell about this later.
And God bless him for it.
So these students set up an encampment on campus.
In the public space on campus.
They did not want reporters coming in bothering them.
And so they were trying to get reporters to leave.
And an unfortunate video came out of this lady named Melissa Click, who was a professor at the university, and she was trying to get a reporter away.
jordan holmes
I recall this.
I recall this.
dan friesen
And she yelled, I need some muscle over here.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And fuck her.
She's terrible, and that's unfortunate bad optics.
jordan holmes
Disagree.
Disagree entirely.
She did need some muscle over there.
dan friesen
I disagree with you.
jordan holmes
I understand that.
dan friesen
It's not okay to...
I get the point, and journalists should have respected that, hey, don't bother these people.
They're setting up a peaceful place where they can be left alone, but to make a point.
jordan holmes
And they are also going to be portrayed...
How?
By those people.
dan friesen
Right, absolutely.
I agree.
I agree they should have done that of their own volition.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But at the same time, it's not appropriate to contextualize it as we need muscle to forcibly remove people from a public space.
jordan holmes
I disagree entirely.
I could not disagree more with you.
dan friesen
Make your case, then.
jordan holmes
Without the...
Look, what does it take for people to listen to them?
They have done every single fucking thing that they could, and then finally, if you don't have the threat of violence, these people aren't going to listen to you.
In the same way that the Black Panthers would stand around whenever a cop was arresting a black dude, they would stand around in full uniform with guns.
Out.
In their hands.
Now, that's fucking muscle.
And they needed fucking muscle because there was going to be violence against them.
dan friesen
Fine.
Fine.
You're arguing a completely different point.
I agree with your point in as much as that goes.
But I don't believe that it's appropriate.
It would be appropriate if they just had students with guns who had a right to carry permits or something like that there.
That would be appropriate.
What's not appropriate is forcibly removing people from a public space for no reason.
That is not appropriate.
If they had a show of muscle, which they did, they had a lot of really huge dudes down there.
But it's not okay for the...
Let's say the Black Panthers to run people off who aren't doing anything that is out of line in the situation that you brought up.
And it's especially not appropriate for this professor to be acting in a coordinating-y fashion when that wasn't her position there.
jordan holmes
I recognize, and you do have some good points there.
dan friesen
There is a difference between the scenarios that you're presenting and what actually we're talking about.
jordan holmes
I absolutely agree with you.
dan friesen
At the same time, I think we can agree to disagree and just agree that it's terrible optics.
jordan holmes
Absolutely, it's terrible optics.
dan friesen
And it gave people something to attack, and that Melissa Click was pretty roundly like, fuck, what?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Why are you doing this?
And she got fired.
Right.
There we go.
The problem solved itself and no one was thrilled with her.
Even the people involved in the movement weren't like, hey, great, good for her.
jordan holmes
No, of course.
dan friesen
People were like, you're making us look terrible.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This is not what we want to present ourselves as.
And she is a 45-year-old red-headed white lady.
So she's not even...
jordan holmes
She's definitely not the one you want speaking for you.
dan friesen
Right.
Or yelling, we need muscle to get this journalist out of here.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I get that.
So that's more where I'm coming from.
jordan holmes
With all that context, I'm much more leaning towards your side there.
dan friesen
I think it's not the best.
All things considered, it's just an unfortunate element of what otherwise was a really good and really well put together protest.
Right.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I'm just at this place now where...
It's like the entirety of the system is the problem.
And every protest that we have, the Women's March was huge.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
What the fuck did it do?
dan friesen
That showing in Boston earlier this year.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Did we change?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Did anything happen?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Acting entirely within the system doesn't seem to be effective because the system itself is the issue.
The system itself is set up to stop these people.
dan friesen
Fine.
Acting within the system and not respecting the rights of the press, not respecting the rights of other people, they are not mutually exclusive.
You can still work outside the system and not trample someone else's right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't think that the First Amendment being the system is the right way to look at it.
I agree with you that there's other things that should be done.
there's other disruptive things that we should be doing outside of just protesting.
Yeah.
unidentified
I mean, you see it around.
dan friesen
I don't know if it's the right answer, but the democratic socialists are making some real headway in terms of organizing protests, just having meetings, things like that.
And maybe that's something that is outside of our I don't think that having muscle to...
Forcibly remove a journalist outside the system in the right way.
That's a step backwards as opposed to a step forward.
jordan holmes
I agree with you.
dan friesen
Great.
Let's move on.
jordan holmes
I agree.
I agree.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I want to disagree and I want to be angry and I want to do all that stuff, but you are correct.
dan friesen
This is why this podcast is wonderful, because we can disagree and then...
jordan holmes
And then I change my mind.
dan friesen
I can talk you down from your intense anger, but I don't disagree with the anger, and I think there's other things that should be done, not this.
jordan holmes
No, I get you.
It's a matter of planning and execution as opposed to...
dan friesen
But I also think that this is a teachable moment in terms of, like, I agree with your point, but I don't agree with the knee-jerk response you have to...
jordan holmes
This particular situation.
dan friesen
Or maybe some other situations like it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, we can agree on the goal, but the immediate reaction people have to get worked up, hot and...
I think we gotta be very careful when we examine it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
But see, then I get back to the corporate media being, again, part of that oppressive system.
unidentified
This wasn't a corporate media guy.
dan friesen
This was a student journalist.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Well, then fuck off.
Yeah.
No.
I didn't know it was a student journalist!
dan friesen
This wasn't Fox News in there.
jordan holmes
Okay, if it was Fox News, I'm all for muscle.
If it's a student journalist, then yeah, go fuck yourself, lady.
dan friesen
Well, it also comes down to, like, what is the person doing?
Like, is the person, you know, is the journalist being, like, legitimately...
unidentified
Agitative.
dan friesen
Yeah, agitating, or like, hey, what's up with you brown people?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Or something like that.
In that case, get out of there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Someone should do something about that.
But if it's just someone there who's like...
I'm going to exist in this space that you guys have created.
jordan holmes
To report on what's going on.
dan friesen
Right.
Then it's completely different.
jordan holmes
It is absolutely different that it's a student journalist.
dan friesen
As I recall, I think it was someone from The Man Eater, which is the campus paper.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That I wrote for for six semesters.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well then, fuck her.
Fuck her.
I'm out.
I'm out on defending her, period.
dan friesen
All right, good.
Now, let's see if you defend Alex Jones in his claims that he's been the victim of racism.
jordan holmes
I absolutely will.
alex jones
And I'm telling you, folks, it's happened to me at least three times.
I haven't run into a lot of racial stuff in Austin until the last few years because of all the hyping of this.
dan friesen
Right, right, right, right.
alex jones
But I've been at UT eating outside UT at a cafe, and two black guys walk by, and they go, look at the blue-eyed devil.
Oh, we're going to do something, devil.
I'm just like, come on, guys.
You're just looking for trouble.
You know, I care about you.
And then they go, oh, yeah, I bet you do, devil.
dan friesen
Already don't believe this story.
alex jones
They're just like black Klan members.
unidentified
No.
alex jones
And then I've had kicked out repeatedly when I've been in East Austin, nice areas to eat over there.
You know, people approach me because I'm white and demand money from it.
Because obviously it's a form of reparations.
I owe it.
And there's racial attacks popping up all over the country at record levels.
dan friesen
Nope.
This is sick.
So, he's just describing panhandling, and he thinks he's a victim of it because he's white.
jordan holmes
And it's reparations.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
It's a type of reparations.
dan friesen
It's not just that East Austin has a large homeless population.
It's what we go back to over and over again.
He criminalizes the behavior of black people, whereas white people, it would be completely different.
jordan holmes
Eh, they all do that.
At this point, everybody does that.
dan friesen
Thankfully, he's transcended racism.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He did when he was 14. Right.
Right.
jordan holmes
Everything's stayed the same since then.
dan friesen
So that is just, I left that clip in just to give you sort of context for the way Alex deals with his own experience of race and what have you, which is deeply flawed.
jordan holmes
Is there any way to get through these guys that their white victimhood is bullshit?
Like, does Alex really believe that he's the victim of racism?
dan friesen
I think he does believe it.
I would hope that, like...
Shows like this.
Or people understanding more.
I really think that if people who listen to his show listen to shows like this, it could give them a better context of the world and the things that he's talking about.
I don't think they ever will.
Maybe they should research stuff on their own, but they're...
Program not to by Alex.
So I think that if his base eroded and people really understood the situation and what he's talking about and where the lies are and why he's lying about certain things, I think it could help.
I don't know if it would ever reach him, but if you hit his pocketbook hard enough with people not buying his dumbass supplements, maybe.
Maybe there's a chance.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he would step down from being the system president of the University of Missouri.
dan friesen
And make Jakari Jackson the president.
jordan holmes
That'd be great.
That'd be great stuff.
dan friesen
He's still around at this point in November, but I can report that.
I don't know.
I don't know if there's much hope in terms of educating Alex, but there's hope of educating and helping other people.
Not have these narratives in their heads.
jordan holmes
It's just so many psychological studies always put forth that whenever you bring facts or any of this shit towards people who...
dan friesen
Do they just get mad?
jordan holmes
They just get mad and get more entrenched in their white victimhood beliefs.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's probably true.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't think there's a good answer, but there's...
jordan holmes
We're gonna need some muscle, that's for sure.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
I think not trying is not the answer, though.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I agree with you there.
dan friesen
So, anyway, let's get to this next clip.
jordan holmes
Jeez, we're just agreeing all over the place these days.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex Jones, like, his big problem is these SJWs, these social justice warriors.
jordan holmes
Social justice warriors.
dan friesen
And that term is starting to crop up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex makes this...
Parallel, and it's really unfortunate.
jordan holmes
I love how they make such obviously good things into epithets.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Like, social justice warrior.
Like, social justice is good, and you should fight for it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Black Lives Matter.
They do.
How can you turn that into something negative?
dan friesen
Well, it's because of what we've talked about in the past.
Alex's belief is that the globalists invert everything.
So when you talk about love, you're talking about hate.
So social justice is actually social injustice.
Black Lives Matter is just white lives don't matter.
That sort of shit.
It's entrenched in his head.
I agree.
Anyway, this clip is really fun.
And we'll explain why on the other end of it.
But it has to do with social justice warriors and another period of history.
alex jones
This is a parallel that Richard, in their running the board, came up with this morning.
And it's funny because I thought of this exact same parallel this morning.
dan friesen
I bet you did.
alex jones
The Salem Witch Trials versus the social justice trials.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, there it is.
alex jones
In the Salem Witch Trials in Massachusetts, the episode is one of the nation's most notorious cases.
dan friesen
Of?
alex jones
Of mass hysteria.
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
And has been used in political rhetoric and popular literature as a vivid cautionary tale about the dangers of isolationist behavior, religious extremism, false accusations, and lapses in due process.
dan friesen
Yep.
alex jones
It was not unique but simply an American example of a much broader phenomenon of wish trials in the early modern period.
Many historians consider the lasting effects of the trials to have been highly influential in subsequent United States history.
jordan holmes
He's reading something, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
The truth is, the sadists and people in the dark ages and on like to actually engage in satanic activity, so the Satanists would run the witch trials.
That's the next level.
There was Satanism going on.
It was rampant in Europe.
With the witch trials, it's clear that really wasn't going on.
But if you actually look at the Inquisition and a lot of other operations, you would learn that sadists, bare minimum, were the ones actually doing what they were claiming other people We're up to.
But it was not unique, but simply an American example of a much broader phenomenon of wish trials in early modern period.
Many historians consider the lasting effects of the trials to have been highly influential in subsequent United States history.
Now, he just changed it over with social justice trials.
The crime of being white by Wolf.
jordan holmes
Crime of being white.
alex jones
Now, the other...
unidentified
By Wolf.
alex jones
...cancellor has resigned.
The social justice trials.
The episode is one of the nation's most notorious cases of mass hysteria and will be used in political rhetoric and popular literature as a vivid, cautionary tale about the dangers of socialism, politically correct extremism, false accusations, and lapses in due process.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
So basically he just reads the exact same thing, but with social justice warriors instead of the Salem Witch Trial.
jordan holmes
I do like how when he's reading that, it's, oh, that is well thought out.
That makes sense.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
jordan holmes
No, no, I mean, writing-wise.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, writing-wise.
And then, all of a sudden, Alex is like, but they were worshipping demons.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then he gets back to it, and you're like, wait, wait, wait, what?
dan friesen
Really, they were doing the satanic stuff, and they just blamed everyone else for it.
Eh, guys, how's it going?
The problem is...
Let's take the Inquisition and stuff out of it, because that's totally different stuff.
If you look at what's going on in terms of, especially because what he's mad about is the University of Missouri situation, and the Salem Witch Trials, there is a glaring parallel in it.
And it's not this.
What it is, is the Salem Witch Trials were largely about taking property away from people who had wronged...
I always get the names mixed up.
It's either the Porters or the Putnams.
Those were the two big families involved.
I think it was the...
The Putnams.
I think the Porters were the good people.
Can't remember.
But it was about...
jordan holmes
It was the Hatfields or the McCoys, whichever you choose.
dan friesen
It was largely about a bunch of either widowed or single women who owned land and had land disputes with the Putnam family.
The patriarch of the Putnam family were the ones who kept getting pointed out as witches.
Or people who bucked social norms, people who didn't go to church, stuff like that.
Or, like we have mentioned in the past, a white lady who married a black guy.
Yep.
Those were the things...
jordan holmes
Definitely can't allow her to have property.
dan friesen
Those were what was motivating the Salem Witch Trials.
It wasn't about mass hysteria.
It wasn't about any of that stuff.
It wasn't about legitimate witchcraft.
And if you look at what's going on in the Missouri situation, the people who are against it...
Are trying to keep power in the hands of white people.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
White males, specifically.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is...
dan friesen
Alex keeps saying that the crime is being white.
It's not.
You're not listening to what's going on at all.
So in both cases, it's about maintaining the status quo that is racially and genderly based.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, in a certain sense...
dan friesen
So that's unfortunate.
jordan holmes
In a certain sense, you could describe it as a mass hysteria in that these people are...
Drumming up a mass hysteria amongst the...
Again, we're back to oligarchs utilizing poor people to accomplish their goals.
In the same way as you're talking about there, the oligarchs are using their power to drum up anti-everybody-but-white-people sentiment.
dan friesen
In this case, if you want to do the parallel, the people who are protesting...
About the ignoring of racial incidents and stuff like that.
The black students, the concerned student 1950...
Are the people who are accused of being witches.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
They are the victims of the mass hysteria.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
In this situation.
The porters are the administration, possibly, or even Alex Jones, quite frankly.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
dan friesen
People of his ilk who are like, ah, you guys are witches.
jordan holmes
The ones who...
dan friesen
You guys are creeping socialism.
jordan holmes
The demagogues.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's what it is.
dan friesen
So that's all bullshit, and thankfully we get to take a little break from all this bullshit.
Unfortunately.
jordan holmes
God damn it, Dan.
dan friesen
It's because we have a guest who comes in.
And it's not a guest that we've dealt with before.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But it is a guest that I have met personally.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
It is Man Cow.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Fucking Man Cow.
dan friesen
Have you ever been on his show?
jordan holmes
I was actually booked to do his show, and then Matt Druffke, our close personal friend.
Right.
He told me this whole long story and I was like, nah, fuck that.
I don't need any of this shit.
dan friesen
I knew a lot.
I'd heard bad experiences.
jordan holmes
A lot about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Right.
Yep.
I'd heard a lot from people who had gone on his show and I was like, I gotta do it for how bad this is gonna be.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shits and giggles.
dan friesen
And so I went and did it and it was as bad as everybody had told me.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Man Cow is a fucking asshole.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He won't look at people.
He broadcasts with shades on in the middle of the day inside.
He, in commercial breaks, storms off to his office and then comes back out so he won't have to talk to people during commercial breaks.
The two guests on the show were me and some guy who was there from a Catholic charity, and he treated both of us like assholes.
It was miserable.
When I was in the waiting room, so they broadcast the last day's...
The show is two hours, and they broadcast The Last Days last hour for the first hour, and then the second hour live.
It's very convoluted.
But I was in the green room, and I was watching The Last Days show.
And, like, Ringo was a guest.
And I'm watching him be an asshole to Ringo!
jordan holmes
Ringo Starr?
dan friesen
Ringo Starr!
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
And I'm watching Ringo just like his face.
jordan holmes
Ringo wrote two great songs, man.
Come on.
dan friesen
Look, I'm not here to say great or bad things about Ringo, but he's a huge star.
And here's Mankow just treating him like a dick.
And I'm like, this is gonna go badly for open mic comedian.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think it is kind of funny to treat Ringo like a dick, though.
dan friesen
If I could do it all over.
I would have been a fucking asshole back to him.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
But because it was like six in the morning and I was maybe hungover from shows the night before, I was just like, all right, man, Cal, you got it.
The producer kept asking me for bits that I could do.
He could set me up for bits.
The only thing I really recall is how much I hated him and how much he talked about being friends with the Moody Blues.
The band, the Moody Blues.
jordan holmes
Well, that's why he hates Ringo.
dan friesen
Might be.
jordan holmes
The Moody Blues have always hated Ringo.
That's just a true fact.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is fair.
jordan holmes
For 40 years, the Moody Blues have been fighting against Ringo specifically.
dan friesen
The noble fight.
jordan holmes
Love the Beatles.
Right.
Hate Ringo.
dan friesen
They love Pete Best.
jordan holmes
They're like, come on, man.
You're a shitty drummer.
dan friesen
So let's get into it.
Here is Man Cow being a dick.
He is such a dick.
Such a dick.
And a liar.
mancow
But, you know, I would have...
I mean, what we should have said, what Missouri should have said, show me.
What they should have said is, okay, no football then.
And you're going to college for free.
And you're done.
Get out of here.
Look, brother, I went to Central Missouri State University.
It's now called UCM.
And every year I pay for someone to go to college.
I took a great deal of heat because it's not based on race.
dan friesen
I bet that's not why.
mancow
Well, it's based on talent.
Who cares about skin color?
You and I don't care about skin color.
So at this university that I went to, I saw all the football players come in, and they took the SATs in about two minutes.
For me, it was a full weekend commitment.
But they were in.
I saw them flunk every test, and the football players were pushed through.
And this happens at every university.
And these morons are usually violent.
Look at what we're seeing in the NFL.
So they let these violent morons of Mizzou...
Destroy this man.
It is something, isn't it?
These are strange days.
dan friesen
So the language he's employing there, these violent morons, when he's clearly talking about black people, it's trouble.
It's trouble for his argument that we don't care about skin color.
jordan holmes
You and I both know that they don't care about skin color?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Well, that's kind of the issue.
They prefer no skin color.
They don't like pigment.
That's a big issue for them.
dan friesen
At the same time, if we want to look at his complaints, it is fucked up the way that colleges treat student-athletes.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
But there's a better way to discuss that, probably, than the way he is.
jordan holmes
By treating the NCAA as a cartel?
dan friesen
Yeah, something like that.
jordan holmes
Fucking trust?
dan friesen
When I went to the University of Missouri, I had a couple of...
It would be strong to call them friends.
But there were a couple of acquaintances that I had who were on the football team.
And I was in a logic class with two of them.
And one of them was super nice.
Worked real hard.
He was in class every day, and a couple times I was walking down the street.
He pulled over, offered me a ride.
They'd come into the movie theater that I worked at at the time, and it was super nice.
Both of them were super nice in person.
jordan holmes
Well, that's really cool.
dan friesen
But the other one, he would sleep through class and at one point offered to pay me to do his homework.
There are situations like that that people who are the student-athletes and make tons of money for the university...
Get to do and get away with.
And it's pretty fucked up.
It's pretty fucked up.
jordan holmes
I mean, how many hours a week do they work on football?
Tons.
Well, more than 40. Yeah.
So if you are like, okay, we need you to work 40 hours a week.
Also, we need you to do all of this shit.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And we're not going to pay you for it.
Imagine that.
dan friesen
It was a high-level logic class.
There was no business for him to be in that class.
I don't know what happened with his schedule to be in there.
But be that as it may, I'm not saying that he did anything wrong.
I'm saying that there is a system in place that needs to be changed.
jordan holmes
Maybe logic puts him to sleep.
dan friesen
It puts most people to fucking sleep.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he has trouble sleeping, so rather than take your melatonin, he's like, eh, I'll just do some logic.
dan friesen
So, man-cow has a problem with race.
jordan holmes
Macau is a racist.
dan friesen
And in this clip we learn that he's also a hacky misogynist.
jordan holmes
Great!
mancow
Alex, let me tell you something, okay?
My wife and I were arguing.
And I said to her, I said, honey, you're overreacting.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
mancow
And you know what she said to me, Alex?
She goes, after using logic and thinking this all out and looking at the facts, honey, you're right.
I overreacted.
I'm just kidding you, Alex.
That would never happen.
Fake laugh.
That would never happen to any married man.
Look, there's no facts.
It's all emotion.
dan friesen
Right, baby.
That's so, like, 80s stand-up even.
That's terrible.
Anyway, we don't need to discuss that.
It's just evidence that...
jordan holmes
Let me tell you something about men.
They are from Mars, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Women?
From Venus.
dan friesen
That is so true, man cow!
So, actually, this clip didn't load right, and that sucks.
Or maybe it did.
Here, let's try it.
jordan holmes
You can tell how much assholes these people, because even their fake laughs are annoying.
dan friesen
Totally.
When we laugh, it's real.
jordan holmes
Yeah, generally.
A lot of times I'll laugh at your shit for no...
It's not funny.
It's not funny.
Dan?
dan friesen
Real or fake?
jordan holmes
That one's real.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Anyway, look, we don't need to belabor this point.
Who cares?
This next clip, if it loaded correctly, we'll see, is Mancow pretending he doesn't live in the suburbs.
mancow
Oh, boy.
Whoa, boy.
Brother.
You understand I live in Beirut?
Brother.
I live in the city of Chicago, my friend.
I have to step over dead bodies to get into work.
dan friesen
So, okay, it did load great.
So, he lives in the city of Chicago.
It's Beirut.
He lives in the suburbs.
And, like I said, I was on his show.
I know where he works.
He works on Michigan Avenue and South Water.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
That is where the studio was.
jordan holmes
He's walking over dead bodies!
dan friesen
If you don't know Chicago, that is, nay, a block away from the Magnificent Mile.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The big downtown area.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
The touristy downtown fucking area.
jordan holmes
One of the richest places.
You can possibly be.
dan friesen
It might even still be a part of the Magnificent Mile.
I don't know where that starts or ends, but it hits Wacker there, and it's much less on the side of South Water, but it's like a block away from that.
jordan holmes
It's gorgeous.
It's beautiful.
dan friesen
It's expensive-ass downtown Chicago.
He doesn't have to step over dead shit.
That's nonsense.
Even dead birds he doesn't have to step over, because they have extensively paid cleanup crews all around that area.
If you work in a building and you're 20 feet away from an au bon pain or a petit manger.
jordan holmes
I love the way that you say that.
dan friesen
Right.
If that's where you're at.
jordan holmes
Au bon pain.
dan friesen
That's not correct French-wise either.
But go fuck yourself, man.
Stop pretending you're in the shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's a fucking...
Warrior on the south side, man.
That's what he does.
dan friesen
I work in Pilsen, and I wouldn't even claim that, because it's not true.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course not.
dan friesen
I did see a guy passed out once.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
I lived on the west side of Chicago for a while, and he did wind up driving by a bus stop bench that was just on fire.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Like, the whole thing was just on fire.
And there were people still standing at the bus stop looking at me like...
Fuck is wrong with you?
dan friesen
I'm sure the response becomes, that's weird.
jordan holmes
Exactly, yeah.
dan friesen
Strange.
I had a situation like that that I felt a little bit bad about, but at the same time, I don't have any responsibility for it and there's nothing I could do.
I was walking home from the train and I saw a guy just laying on the street.
And I was like, that guy probably needs help.
But at the same time, there were three people standing next to him, sort of looking at him.
And there was a cop car across the street.
And the people, like the cops, were looking in that direction.
I'm like, if anything needs to be done, it's going to be done.
jordan holmes
That's the Kitty Genovese issue right there.
dan friesen
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
You know, the one where, I don't even know if that's the right name or whatever, but it's the famous story of a woman who was crying out for help.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
And because so many people were watching.
dan friesen
The bystander effect.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they were all like, well, somebody else is going to take care of this.
dan friesen
See, I would think about that except for the fact that those people standing next to him were clearly engaged with him laying things.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
Well, then we're good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But be that as it may, that is something very important to keep in mind.
jordan holmes
Not your deal.
dan friesen
Not always will people step in.
Everyone thinks someone else will, and that is important.
jordan holmes
Should have gotten some muscle.
That's what I'll tell you right now.
dan friesen
So at this point, Man Cow pivots, and he wants to talk a little bit about the election.
And in this clip, he lies.
mancow
Look, I want to talk about Jeff Bush quickly.
I don't believe...
Are you ready for this?
dan friesen
Yes.
mancow
Look, I have...
You know, you talked about the different networks I've worked for.
I've been in these TV newsrooms.
I worked for Fox in Chicago for the last two years.
jordan holmes
He walked over dead bodies.
mancow
I don't believe it's as sinister.
And if it is, it's in a level that I never saw.
Hell, I guess it could be.
But I've been also behind the scenes of CBS and other newscasts.
Look, what Donald Trump said was correct.
They do pick the winner and the loser.
Again, I don't know that it's sinister, Alex.
But I was there, all the big names, and they pretty much had picked the fight.
And the fight was Hillary versus Jeb Bush.
Well, Hillary's near death.
She's very sick.
She's really stupid.
She's really running an awful campaign.
So the left didn't expect that.
And on the right, Jeb Bush was going to have all the money.
dan friesen
So, I don't believe his presentation of that.
jordan holmes
His insights are spot on.
dan friesen
Slam dunk.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely correct.
dan friesen
So, the part of it that I'll believe is maybe he was in a meeting somewhere and someone's like, hey, it looks like it's going to be Jeb and Hillary, huh?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That's probably the extent of his insiderism.
jordan holmes
If that.
dan friesen
But he says, I was there when it was decided.
jordan holmes
I was there.
dan friesen
As if the globalists had Mancow Muller in for a fucking session where they're like, hey...
Hey, buddy, you want to be in on the ground floor of this?
jordan holmes
Who do you think runs the gang of 42, Dan?
dan friesen
Man Cow.
jordan holmes
Man Cow.
He's behind it all.
The shadowy puppet master turns out to be fucking Man Cow.
dan friesen
I love how I labeled one of these clips.
I feel very proud of it, and I need to repeat it on air.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Man Cow is a man-cowardly racist.
jordan holmes
Fuck you, Dan.
dan friesen
I want that to be a hashtag.
Let's get it trending.
jordan holmes
No fake laugh for you, my friend.
No fake laugh for you.
dan friesen
Man Coward.
So, lest you think that Mankow doesn't like Vladimir Putin, you're wrong.
Turns out he also likes Putin.
Check this shit out.
mancow
So, I'm actually very proud of the American people that they went, nah, Bernie Sanders.
Now, look, the guy's a commie.
He's a communist.
But whatever.
They rejected what was selected for them.
And then on the right, people were picking Trump.
And, you know, the establishments freaked out because we're not following the script.
Listen, that Syrian bombing, and today is the anniversary of the Marines.
You and I are big supporters of the military.
They have to do a lot of things that they don't like.
But the deal is that that hospital, those poor kids that were killed, that hospital that was bombed in.
Look, Putin hates Jeb Bush.
He doesn't want another Bush in.
He hates the Bush family.
And this guy has inserted himself into the Middle East.
And what that was, this comes from a top Marine.
A great source that said, you know, they're cutting off the Bush's money supply around the world.
You may remember that hospital that was bombed in Syria.
What it really was was a storage place of methamphetamines, billions of dollars worth that were going to be circulated throughout the world for the Bush family.
This is what I've been told.
And Putin, they are slowly cutting off all of the sources of income.
Whether it's oil or drugs or anything else.
alex jones
Yeah, well, I've seen off-record even CIA people turning against the establishment and the Bushes.
There is an underground revolution at the Pentagon against Hillary and against the Bushes.
dan friesen
So, Mankow, you suck.
jordan holmes
Un-fucking-real.
dan friesen
He has it from a good source, though.
jordan holmes
What kind of idiot believes that bullshit?
dan friesen
Mankow.
jordan holmes
It was a storage facility for meth?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He didn't see...
Fucking...
Jesus Christ, man.
We killed a bunch of people for no reason who warned us that they were there.
It was Doctors Without Borders.
And we were like, hey, they're the ones we need to kill.
Because ostensibly they were treating everybody.
dan friesen
Fog of war, baby.
jordan holmes
Yeah, fuck them.
dan friesen
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Fuck us.
dan friesen
But I want to point out more about this clip beyond just that stupid.
This is...
This is indicative of Alex Jones' style.
Because what Mancow does is make an outrageous claim.
That Putin is trying to take out Bush's money supply.
And so this war crime that was committed was actually...
jordan holmes
By us.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, but it was actually taking out this methamphetamine depot or whatever.
Now Alex signs off on that by being like, now I've also heard...
And getting on with the interview.
But at no point does he say it.
And in that way, he allows the audience to integrate it into their worldview.
But he has plausible deniability.
So when anyone attacks him, it's like, you think that that fucking hospital was a methamphetamine depot?
jordan holmes
It was Mancow.
I just let him say that shit.
dan friesen
And I just agreed with him tacitly.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's what he does all the time.
And it's really dangerous.
He needs to be called out on these things.
Because if Mancow was on our show and he said that, we'd be like, hold the fuck on.
Hold on.
unidentified
Mancow.
dan friesen
We need more man details.
No, that one didn't work.
jordan holmes
No, definitely not.
Definitely not.
Can you imagine if people actually got...
dan friesen
I shouldn't have done a man callback.
unidentified
Paul!
dan friesen
Yes!
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
unidentified
Yes!
dan friesen
Yes!
unidentified
God damn you, Dan.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
I gotta go.
unidentified
I gotta get...
dan friesen
Ooh, turns out my show's starting early tonight.
jordan holmes
Can you imagine if anybody ever actually got prosecuted for war crimes?
dan friesen
That would be wild.
jordan holmes
Wouldn't that be crazy?
dan friesen
It's been nigh on 70 years?
50, 60 years?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway.
No, that's not true.
jordan holmes
I would love to see Dick Cheney executed.
dan friesen
Would that be fun?
Look, if you do that, you're going to have to execute everybody.
jordan holmes
It's going to start getting real bad.
But there has to be some sort of consequence.
Otherwise, why do you think they just keep happening?
It's because nobody's doing anything about it.
dan friesen
I think we talk about, in an episode that will come out later, my beliefs on aggressive taxation of millionaires.
But on top of that, I think if we're actually going to fix the world, one of the things that we're going to have to do...
Is prosecute a lot of people for war crimes.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I think we're going to have to really deal with getting rid of this idea of American exceptionalism in terms of when we do it, it's not that bad in order to get the respect of the world back in some ways.
The idea that we're part of the world, not above it.
I think that'll be necessary.
But also, when we do that, if we ever do that...
One of the things we'll have to do is grant clemency in some way.
Go through the process and maybe put people in prison instead of killing them.
As they should for war crimes.
Absolutely.
Because it's just become a part of being the president that you commit war crimes now, which is what we have to end.
jordan holmes
That's got to stop.
It's unbelievable.
dan friesen
So I hope we will eventually get some taste of that.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I think we'll all be dead before then.
dan friesen
Most likely.
So that's the end of the 10th.
At the end of the show and throughout, Man Cow just goes on to be like, Alex, you're the best.
You're the best broadcaster ever.
I'd like to apologize for calling you crazy years ago.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Man Cow, you're a piece of shit.
dan friesen
And at this point, we move on to November 11th.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And one of the things that's real- Never forget.
One of the fun things is that on each of these days, we get a crazy guest.
So on- So it's like an advent calendar?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
On the 10th, our little piece of chocolate was Man Cow.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And you will not believe what shows up on the 11th.
jordan holmes
Cow Man.
dan friesen
That would be great.
No, but we'll get there.
jordan holmes
You can see his sad eyes in the broadcast.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
Sad human eyes.
jordan holmes
Sad human eyes.
dan friesen
We'll get there in a moment, but for now we've got to deal with the political state of the world because on the evening of November 10th there was a Republican debate.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so here is where Alex Jones sits about these politicians on November 11th, 2015.
alex jones
Amazing debates last night.
I've got to say Rand Paul really shined last night.
And not because I'm a Paul supporter and friends with him and know he's for real.
jordan holmes
Entirely because of that.
alex jones
I've been a critic of him not being more hardcore and more aggressive.
dan friesen
Certainly.
alex jones
His father, of course, was on last week.
dan friesen
That might play into it.
alex jones
But what I'm getting at is I don't get up here and say he did a great job in debates just to say it.
unidentified
Yes, you do.
alex jones
The last few debates he did okay.
He did really good last night.
And I have to say it was probably one of the winners.
A couple people did well, but I watched our live coverage and analysis with our crew last night breaking it down, and I think their points were spot on and much better analysis than what we saw from mainstream media.
dan friesen
So it's Rand Paul was great in the debates, but also we're pretty awesome.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So it's almost a plug.
But the reason that's important...
jordan holmes
Our live coverage of the debate is so much better than the mainstream media.
There will be another debate.
You should watch our live coverage.
dan friesen
It's a plug in some ways.
But at the same time, there we go.
He's still supporting Rand Paul.
I don't know what the fuck is happening anymore.
This investigation is fucked.
It's completely fucked.
I don't even know what we're looking for anymore.
jordan holmes
I'm really just looking for him screaming 1776 2.0.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because that's so beyond any...
Like, he supports Rand Paul right now.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But he's not screaming that he's the...
dan friesen
Rand Paul is the messiah.
jordan holmes
He's the savior of humanity.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And he gets to that with Trump, where he's like, Trump...
Is the only savior.
dan friesen
That pivot has to come at some point.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think it's got to have something to do with him coming on the show.
I mean, it's got to.
At this point, it really feels like it has to.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
We'll see.
We'll keep going.
But on this 11th, Alex gets back to the issues at Mizzou.
Because I think on the 10th...
He had maybe done a little bit of reading.
He maybe Googled some stuff.
Right.
jordan holmes
Well too late.
dan friesen
He has some other stuff that he wants to talk about.
But also, I can't remember if it's in this clip or a later one.
He keeps calling it Mizu.
He keeps saying Mizu is Mizu.
And that's interesting.
And it tells me something very important.
And that is that Alex is getting all of his information about what's going on at the University of Missouri from Paul Joseph Watson.
Because that is a British...
Pronunciation of Mizzou.
And I know that because later Paul Joseph Watson says Mizzou.
So all the stuff that Alex is learning about this is from PJ Dubs, who hates SJ Dubs.
It's all filtered through.
jordan holmes
You're really on it with the puns today.
dan friesen
We always do that.
unidentified
But you're on it, man.
dan friesen
Look, I'm coming in hot.
I'm curious that he's coming at my hometown.
And bringing that into his racist narrative.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, you got the fire in your gut.
dan friesen
Like I said, all its problems.
I love Columbia.
It was a great home for me for many years, 16 years that I lived there.
Has a whole lot of problems, but a whole lot of potential too.
And go fuck yourself, Alex.
But the Mizu thing, me figuring that out, I felt so good about that.
Because it's clear, it's clear that this is the cart leading the horse in many ways.
Paul Joseph Watson telling Alex what to broadcast.
So here is where he's going to take the narrative here on November 11th.
alex jones
The situation in the Missouri state system has just intensified, and we knew there'd be no end.
It turns out the main agitator with the hunger strike, that obviously is fake, in my view, watching it.
Because over several weeks, he didn't lose any weight.
I've gone back and looked at the videos.
He turns out his father alone makes $8 million a year.
The family's worth more than $20 million a year.
He himself is very wealthy, and they are jacked into the inside.
And of course they are.
You know who's big in the railroads?
That's right.
I looked it up this morning.
I meant to go give it to Kit Daniels, but when I walked in there, I forgot I'd send him to Missouri with Jakari Jackson.
They'll be on at 1.30 today to report as well.
I'm still double-checking it, but it appears the railroad is part Soros-owned.
So it looks like we may have another Soros operative.
Of course it is.
I mean, every time we turn around, that's what it is.
dan friesen
When you have already decided everything is that.
unidentified
Every now and then I get a little bit Soros-y.
dan friesen
I'm going to put this up on the research document cam here.
I have gone to Union Pacific Railroad because that is the company that Eric Butler, right here, that is the guy's dad.
That's Jonathan Butler's dad.
At the time, now he is the executive vice president, chief administrative officer, corporate secretary.
But at the time, he was an executive in sales and marketing for Union Pacific Railroads.
So here we have the directors and officers.
All the people who are involved.
The one thing that really worries me is that one of the directors is Andrew Card, who is the former chief of staff to G.W. Bush.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's not good.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's a little bit...
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
That's a little bit wild, but if you look down this...
jordan holmes
It's almost like oligarchs.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
But if you look down this list, I see no George Soros.
I see no one who Alex has ever brought up who has explicit ties to George Soros or anything like that.
jordan holmes
Well, he's not going to leave a trail.
dan friesen
So this is the directors and officers.
jordan holmes
Only PJ Dubs could really do the digging necessary to find Soros.
dan friesen
So I looked into also the committee members.
Maybe he's on a committee of some sort that has control.
We have the audit committee here.
There's no George Soros.
The finance committee, compensation and benefits committee, the corporate governance and nominating committee.
George Soros.
Again, we see Andrew Card on a couple of these, which, again, is troubling to me, but doesn't necessarily prove anything, because that is past government work, and, you know, who knows?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, so, that is, there's no Soros there, so I looked into it, and it turns out he just owns stock in it.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
He just owns stock in Union Pacific Railroad.
Because he owns stock in everything.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's a guy who makes tons of money on the stock market, hence why he's a billionaire.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So if you want to do that, if you want to play that game, Alex, then what you're doing is essentially just, I'm going to preemptively invalidate anyone who works at a company that Soros owns stock in.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is going to be trouble, because that's almost, I mean, that's hundreds of companies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The other thing is, sure, his dad made $8 million in a year.
And now you're saying that his son is not entitled to political speech.
Alex, you are worth over $10 million.
If you want to use that argument, and if you want to use the argument of how much your company brings in a year...
Which we can easily find out.
As we know, over $14 million a year comes into InfoWars because that's what he said it takes to run the operation.
jordan holmes
That's what he needs for the money bomb.
dan friesen
Well, not just for the money bomb.
He said that's what it takes to run it for a year.
So he has to be at least making that or more in order to run things.
If you want to do that, then I've got bad news about Rex Jones.
Your 13-year-old son is not going to be entitled to political speech as an adult.
If he's on campus and something bad happens and he wants to speak out about it, unfortunately, based on what you're saying, a valid argument against him is your dad makes millions of dollars.
Go fuck yourself, Alex.
jordan holmes
They don't care.
They don't care.
Hypocrisy means nothing.
dan friesen
No, I understand that, but it's important to point these things out.
unidentified
Is it?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Does it matter pointing out hypocrisy anymore?
dan friesen
It's thrilling to me.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
I'm not saying that Alex is going to hear that and be like, God, you're right.
Or anything like that.
It's an important point.
Because it's less about pointing out the hypocrisy and more about clearing out these attacks that are being made unnecessarily on someone who is just trying to speak out.
jordan holmes
How are you clearing out the attack, though?
dan friesen
Well, because the attack is that his dad has made 8. blah blah blah million.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The attack is specious because lots of people make millions of dollars and they're still entitled to their free speech.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Further, the idea that Soros is connected to his dad's railroad, that's the attack, and that attack is nonsense.
It's just he owns stock in the company.
So take any company that Soros owns stock in, find someone who's a marketing person in that company, and then now...
Now their son isn't allowed to speak out because it's clearly a Soros operation.
jordan holmes
That'd be fun if Soros owned stock in Infowars.
Or GCN.
That would be fucking amazing.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, he's donated to Trump's campaign, so now Trump's children shouldn't be able to speak out.
unidentified
There we go.
dan friesen
Because obviously it is a Soros operation.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
I'm sorry, he didn't necessarily donate to Trump's campaign, but they have worked business deals together, and he's given Trump money.
It's less about hypocrisy and more about a style of argument called reducto ad absurdum.
You just take the logic that someone's using and apply it to another situation where it seems stupid.
jordan holmes
Which is what your football playing friend probably didn't learn in that logic class.
dan friesen
Well, because I did his homework.
I should be clear.
I never accepted that offer.
But, look, it's just stupid.
It's just stupid.
jordan holmes
It's very stupid.
dan friesen
And here's some more stupidity about Missouri.
alex jones
Mizu Hunger Strike claims he's oppressed.
Rip's white privilege comes from family worth $20 million.
Father paid $8 million as head, as vice president of a major railroad last year.
jordan holmes
He was paid $8 million.
alex jones
Running an op.
Guaranteed.
Being directed.
Guaranteed.
Melissa Click, the professor over media, has resigned, but she didn't really resign.
Another deception from the deceptinoids.
dan friesen
I would have gone Decepticons, but at the same time...
jordan holmes
I'm a bigger fan of the, you know, avoid the Deceptinoids.
That's an important thing to do.
dan friesen
You're making me hungry.
So, the thing about Melissa Click there, she was the I Need More Muscle professor.
She did resign from a sort of symbolic position that she had, like just a formal title, and then she was fired.
So, like, she didn't resign from her actual job.
And Alex is, like, I think he's spiritually correct.
jordan holmes
So he kind of gets that idea.
dan friesen
But he ignores the fact that she immediately was fired.
So, yeah, it's just more like, this is the stuff where he's making shit up.
He's just making it up.
The idea that it's a Soros op, I guarantee.
Immediately after this, he transitions into, we know it's a Soros op, as if it's proven.
He's just making it up.
jordan holmes
Well, he said it earlier.
dan friesen
We just watched it be made up in real time there.
So, now we get to our guests.
jordan holmes
Everything he says, he then confirms himself later.
dan friesen
Right, and claims, I got it from sources.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
That source may have been me.
Randomly talking earlier, making shit up.
But that one sounds good, so now it's true.
dan friesen
Wait, I think I'm credible.
And if I said it, that's a credible source.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Alright, it works.
jordan holmes
There we go.
I got it from sources.
dan friesen
Jordan, shut the fuck up.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry!
dan friesen
We got a guest.
jordan holmes
Okay!
unidentified
This guest is crazy.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
So, what it is, is a guy named General Stubblebine, who may or may not have been a real general.
It's unimportant.
jordan holmes
What did you just say?
dan friesen
General Stubblebine.
It's a fun name.
Stubblebine.
jordan holmes
Stubblebine?
dan friesen
He's 80 if he's a day.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He is real old.
jordan holmes
That sounds like a Civil War name.
dan friesen
Yeah, it might be.
It might be.
So General Stubblebine is on.
jordan holmes
Say that 30 more times for me.
Stubblebine.
Stubblebine.
dan friesen
He is there with his wife.
It was a doctor named Rima something or other.
I can't remember her last name.
jordan holmes
Dr. Rima Stubblebine.
dan friesen
It's not her last name.
jordan holmes
She kept her own last name?
dan friesen
She did.
jordan holmes
It doesn't sound like something a Stubblebine would allow to happen.
dan friesen
Well, it turns out she might be 40. Or something like that.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
There's a massive age difference between the two of them.
And I'm not judging.
Whatever.
You live your life.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I tried to go to her website here, and she just goes by Dr. Rima on the website.
So I can't even find the fucking last name.
jordan holmes
Dr. Rima McIntyre?
dan friesen
That's it.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
She had a great show on ABC!
So here is the intro that Alex gives to them.
And I gotta say, what they're on the show to talk about is fucked up, but let's deal with it, and then we'll get to an awesome reveal at the end.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I guess we'll probably go to General Stubblebine for five minutes first, and then his wife can pop it any time, and then to her for five minutes.
But Major General Albert and Stubblebine III, General Burt is a graduate of U.S. Military Academy, Class of 52. He enjoyed his distinguished 32 career with the U.S. Army.
He retired as the commanding general of the United States Army Intelligence.
In Security Command, prior to his assignment, he commanded the U.S. Army Electronics Research and Development Command.
That's hooked into DARPA.
During his active duty career, he commanded soldiers at every level.
After his retirement, he served as VP for the intelligence systems with BDM, a major defense contractor.
He has brought these expertises to the leading-edge medical research and development in collaboration with his wife, Dr. Rima E. Labo, M.D., who's treated some royalty and some of the most famous people in the world.
Which is part of what woke her up, because what they were saying.
DrRimaTruthReports.com And they also have a whole section on informed consent.
These cards you can print off.
You can also just, I would say, come up with your own as well.
Whatever works.
To put people on notice when they're trying to forcibly inoculate you or your children.
Because they lie and say there's no side effects.
It's the law you've got to take it.
It's not true.
Even as they pass laws saying it, they're trumped.
They're like a...
One of hearts with their fake regulation or state law versus the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, the Nuremberg Code, the Geneva Convention that's the ace of spades.
You can't trust these governments to forcibly put something in you.
Come on.
So joining us is Major General Retired Albert in Stumblebein.
General, it's been a long time.
I tell you, great to have you on with us.
unidentified
Well, Alex, it's great to be here.
alex jones
Where do you guys want to begin?
There's so much.
You've said it.
I agree with you.
The great calling has begun.
unidentified
Unfortunately, Alex, you are correct.
It has already started, and my sense is it's only going to get worse.
jordan holmes
It's only going to get worse.
rima laibow
General Burt just wrote a piece on white men dying in America.
alex jones
Let's talk about that.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So, General Stubblebine has written an article about white men dying in America.
jordan holmes
Alright.
Opioid crisis?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Is he talking about depression and suicide rates, which are very high among white men?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Is he talking about just, you know, our need to go away?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
It's vaccines.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
It's vaccines.
jordan holmes
It's vaccines.
Vaccines!
Are killing white men in the USA.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
Here is what happens immediately after that last clip that we played.
Albert Stubblebine has written an article about white death, and then we get into this horseshit nonsense.
unidentified
Well, when you take a look at the statistics, is it statistics or sadistics?
dan friesen
So he does this joke like four times also.
jordan holmes
Sounds about right.
dan friesen
It's a strong bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So here we go.
unidentified
I'm not quite sure which word to use, but when you look at the facts, what you find is that instead of getting older, there's a block in terms of aging that is sort of the 40 to 50 age range.
And suddenly, instead of getting older like I am, they are dying.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
unidentified
They are dying too soon, way too soon.
And the real question is, not that they're dying, but why are they dying that young?
Prostate cancer.
rima laibow
The mortality rate has been accelerating 1% a year for the last 15 years for men between the ages of 40 and 55. They were the most privileged sector in, really, in the world in terms of their longevity.
unidentified
They were well cared for.
Remember, she's talking about whites.
dan friesen
White death.
jordan holmes
So she's talking about white privilege.
dr rima laibow
And now their ability to do that.
unidentified
Their longevity is declining at the rate of 1% a year.
dan friesen
I don't think those statistics are necessarily accurate.
jordan holmes
Statistics?
dan friesen
Sadistics.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
Excuse me.
So, yeah, this is sort of the introduction of their theme, but they're not really giving any insight into what they're there to talk about until this next clip, which is where we get into the anti-vax stuff.
And the end of this clip is not to be believed.
It's so stupid.
unidentified
One of the things that we see is that...
The death rates are increasing.
rima laibow
We see that the United States, because of its vaccines, has the highest infant mortality rate in the developed world.
unidentified
Even Zimbabwe has a lower infant mortality rate.
dan friesen
So I want to pause right there, because I have the statistics in front of me about this.
jordan holmes
Infant mortality rate is by vaccines.
It's not because we have a miserable, horrible healthcare system that...
God damn it.
God damn it.
dan friesen
So right here.
jordan holmes
What's the divide, Dan, in infant mortality rates?
Is it that all of the United States has the same infant mortality rate?
No.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
It seems as though rich people have a much lower infant mortality rate.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Maybe it's because of the way we treat the poor.
dan friesen
That's a big part of it.
But I'm going to go to the document camera here because I have the infant mortality statistics from 2016 in front of me.
And one of the things she said was that Zimbabwe has a lower infant mortality rate.
Here, this is the infant mortality rate deaths per 1,000 live births.
We see up top Afghanistan leading the pack with 112.8, which is terrifying.
That's 10%.
unidentified
That's not good.
dan friesen
That's awful.
And then you get a ton of African countries.
jordan holmes
I bet it's because they take such good care of women.
dan friesen
Right, or they die in bombings.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the other thing here is we got all this, so much Africa there.
It's just all Africa because we have done a terrible job of helping them, though we try.
There's a lot better things we should be doing.
So we scroll down here and we get through, like, there's Iraq there with 37.5.
Still no America, still no Zimbabwe.
That's interesting.
Actually, I think I passed Zimbabwe.
I did.
There's Zimbabwe, 25.9 per week.
1,000 live births.
This is from 2016, keep in mind.
This is the most up-to-date information that is available.
Now, if you scroll down even farther, what's this?
Oh my God, where are we?
There's the United States, 5.8.
This is just complete cockamamie horse shit that's coming out of her mouth.
jordan holmes
So where do they get this bullshit?
dan friesen
They just hate vaccines and...
jordan holmes
I know, but...
dan friesen
Probably non-peer-reviewed studies.
Probably just some stuff where people got numbers wrong in their equations or used bad sourcing, and then no one's corrected them.
We see this all the time, and it's very common with Alex Jones' guests.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
They just use unofficial things that were posted on blogs and shit.
jordan holmes
Right, like climate denial.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's one paper.
dan friesen
Right.
We're going to get into something really funny.
unidentified
So it's over.
dan friesen
We're going to get something funny about climate denial here in a second.
But here we go.
jordan holmes
Oh, anti-vaxxers also deny climate change?
dan friesen
No, it's not them.
It's another situation.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
But here we go.
jordan holmes
Great.
rima laibow
It has the highest first-day infant mortality.
unidentified
It has the highest one-year infant mortality.
And it has the highest five-year infant mortality.
I would call that a great culling.
rima laibow
I would call the fact that privileged white males are now dying at an accelerating rate.
unidentified
Part of the great culling.
rima laibow
I would call the induced infertility part of the great culling.
I would call the introduction of nagelase, the enzyme that blocks the immune system, part of the great culling.
unidentified
How is it introduced?
Well, it appears to be introduced in vaccines.
dan friesen
Vaccines, maybe.
rima laibow
I think one of the most important things that we can do to stop the great culling is never, ever again take a vaccine.
unidentified
Or allow anyone to take the vaccine.
dr rima laibow
But given the mandates that are being forced upon us globally, like the no jab, no pay in Australia, like SB 277 in California, every child must be vaccinated and every child care worker, unless we assert our right...
dan friesen
So, this is bad.
But I want to assure you...
jordan holmes
So the only way to stop the great culling is never taking vaccines.
Right.
Somebody explain to her what smallpox is.
dan friesen
Allowing another culling to happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
The most culling.
dan friesen
Because these vaccines are racist.
Smallpox doesn't bias on race.
It's all nonsense.
jordan holmes
How can you, with a straight face, say, privileged white males are dying and just end it there?
Like, that's...
So inherently racist.
dan friesen
If you've got nothing, it's easy to leave it there because you don't want to dwell on it.
jordan holmes
Right.
But, I mean, come on.
Here's what we should care about.
Privileged white males are dying.
That's my number one issue, Dan.
dan friesen
Again, all of these guests and so much of what Alex Jones' show is really about is retaining undeserved social power.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And privilege.
That's what threatens him.
That's why he's so into his white identity.
That's why he thinks he's not a racist, too.
jordan holmes
And that infertility, the forced infertility or whatever it is, that's the big one for these people.
It's always that white people aren't breeding enough.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's some of that.
jordan holmes
We're running out.
dan friesen
And that's where it gets to the cuck narrative and stuff like that, too.
But, look, all this stuff is tough and it's stupid.
But trust me, the end of this clip, in about a minute and a half, Is fucking hilarious.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And we find out why they're really on the show.
And it's, oh man, so great.
unidentified
To inform consent with this, where's my camera?
With this kind of act of assertion, then in fact, we are going to be vaccinated forcibly.
dan friesen
So just to pause real quick, at this point, she's holding up a card to the video screen.
That's important for what comes later.
jordan holmes
Is this your card?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is it the one of hearts?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
It trumps.
alex jones
You're right.
We've got to get organized.
We've got to get aggressive.
But everything you're saying just makes the light bulb go off.
We've got British, U.S., Canadian, you name it, studies.
Just type into Google, flu vaccine doubles your chances of getting flu.
The mainstream news admits it doesn't work and gives you the flu and destroys your immune system.
And people admit autoimmune disorders are off the charts.
They have videos on the news in Mexico and Latin America.
They give the little girls the Gardasil, and a bunch of them start having convulsions.
This is really testing how much we'll put up with.
unidentified
I think we're beyond testing how much we'll put up with.
rima laibow
They have determined how much we'll put up with, and it's anything they want to give us until we say no.
Now, you said earlier, Alex, that people book their own vaccine exemption card, and you're kind of right and kind of wrong, because there is a very specific legal format necessary for exerting your informed consent right.
unidentified
And if you don't do it right, you're going to get vaccinated.
rima laibow
That's why we've created the Advanced Vaccine Directive and why we are working so hard to make it available to everyone.
In fact, we just slashed the prices so that everyone can afford it.
unidentified
Now, I want to say, everyone needs one.
jordan holmes
Fuck you!
unidentified
In your diaper pack.
jordan holmes
No fucking way!
unidentified
In your backpack, in your wallet, in your purse.
And you need a bunch of them.
Each person has to assert that...
Right.
jordan holmes
Because people are going to be running with vaccines?
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, the premise there that she's giving is that...
jordan holmes
It's like 28 days later, you're going to run away from people with vaccines?
dan friesen
If you don't assert specific legal language that is only available on this card that we happen to sell, and we've slashed prices because you can't just, I don't know, print out a ton of them and laminate it?
jordan holmes
It's the November 10th Easter sale.
dan friesen
Right.
So I have gone to her website, Dr. Rima's website, and I will flash this up on screen here.
The vaccine exemption card that she sells on her website is $30.
jordan holmes
Holy shit!
The ball's on her!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
Just to clarify, you can see that this is actually her website.
That is the store.
$30 for a card you can print out that says, I don't want to get jabbed.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Alex Jones is having a scam run on him.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
He has general stubblebine.
jordan holmes
Un-fucking-real.
dan friesen
It's becoming clear to me, at least in the case of this, that this is all Rima.
This is the lady.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
And she's found an 80-year-old dude who's supporting her shit.
jordan holmes
I got me a stubblebine.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
I got cover.
I can do this forever.
dan friesen
It's enough cover to get you on Alex's show, certainly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's pathetic.
jordan holmes
Like, one, Stubblebine really doesn't say anything.
dan friesen
Not really.
jordan holmes
For his intro being all of these military credits, for her to just jump on that with, like, here's what you gotta do.
dan friesen
He says a little bit more that I had cut out, but it's all kind of boring stuff, and he just repeats that statistics, sadistics line.
So that's the end of their interview, but that's hilarious.
jordan holmes
What language do you need to use?
dan friesen
Legal language.
They don't want to say on air because then you can use it.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, that's a good point.
dan friesen
Cut them out of 30 bucks like that?
jordan holmes
Good point.
But that's another one of those libertarian, like, it's all about the loopholes in the law.
They can't make you do anything.
dan friesen
Maritime law, duplicate shit.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Of course.
So that's the end of their interview.
jordan holmes
It's like a get-out-of-jail-free card.
It's like, oh, man, I'm about to vaccinate you, and you're like, boom!
dan friesen
You can't.
jordan holmes
Fuck off, man.
Look at this card.
I bought it for 30 bucks.
dan friesen
And if you really...
jordan holmes
And they're like, you're a fucking child.
dan friesen
If you really look into it, it's like...
Informed consent just means that you've signed a form that says that you know the risks and you reject them knowing the risks.
It's just a technicality for doctors and hospitals so they don't get sued when you reject a vaccine.
And they'll be like, I didn't know what I was rejecting!
So if you go in and you say you don't want to get a vaccine, they have to ask you the question, like, are you sure you're aware of this?
And if you sign a form that says you are aware of it...
That's plenty.
They won't force vaccinate you.
jordan holmes
Fucking on you after that point.
dan friesen
Yeah, but there are situations where you can't, like, I don't know, become a daycare worker if you're not vaccinated because you're putting other people's kids at risk.
mancow
Oh, you're goddamn right.
dan friesen
There are situations like that, but that's not legal stuff.
That's just, like, it's within their rights to not allow you in.
That's the consequence of your choice.
You don't need a fucking $30 card.
jordan holmes
You know what?
If I had a business, the only sign that I would have is, No anti-vaxxers here.
dan friesen
No need apply?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, let's get off.
jordan holmes
Must be fully vaccinated to work here.
dan friesen
Let's get off this shit.
jordan holmes
Must be fully vaccinated to just order a pizza from here.
dan friesen
Let's jump.
Let's jump off the anti-vax stuff, because we talk about it too much.
jordan holmes
How did they, like...
This is fun because they go from vaccines cause autism to vaccines are culling the whites!
That's a big jump.
dan friesen
But Alex loves it.
That's his favorite kind of jump.
jordan holmes
Of course, but that's a big one.
dan friesen
It's pretty big.
So they're done.
At this point.
But Alex wants to get back into the last night's debate.
30 bucks for a car?
It's crazy.
jordan holmes
That's bananas.
dan friesen
So this is about how great Rand Paul was last night.
And then Alex Jones says something a little unfortunate that is right in line with our investigation.
alex jones
Let's go now to Rand Paul on climate change.
You know, Putin's come out and said it's pure bull.
And it's a military operation by the globalists to shut down nation states, which is what it is.
Let's see what Rand Paul had to say.
unidentified
You are one of 15 Republicans to vote for an amendment which states that human activity contributed to climate change.
dan friesen
I want to stop right there.
jordan holmes
Senator Paul.
You've made too much sense to be on this stage.
dan friesen
I want to say that he is the most sensible version of insane in this clip.
He's still going to make you a little mad, but at least he's closer to reasonable.
But also, I hate Rand Paul's voice.
So, let's enjoy the good with the bad, the sweet with the sour, the rough with the smooth.
jordan holmes
Alright.
unidentified
President Obama has announced an aggressive plan to cut carbon emissions.
At the same time...
Energy production in America has boomed.
Is it possible to continue this boom and move toward energy self-sufficiency while at the same time pursuing a meaningful climate change program?
jordan holmes
That's a really good question.
rand paul
The first thing I would do as president is repeal the regulations that are hampering that the president has put in place.
unidentified
That's a bad idea.
dan friesen
Good applause line.
jordan holmes
Including the Clean Power Act.
unidentified
Well, I do think man may have a role in our climate.
I think nature also has a role.
The planet's 4.5 years old.
We've been through geologic age after geologic age.
jordan holmes
We've had times when the temperature's been warmer.
unidentified
We've had times when the temperature's been colder.
We've had times when the carbon in the atmosphere has been higher.
So I think before, we need to look before we leap.
rand paul
President's often fond of saying he wants a balanced solution.
jordan holmes
But really, we do need to balance both keeping the environment clean.
unidentified
We will have some rules for that.
We've got to balance that with the economy.
jordan holmes
He's devastated my state.
rand paul
I say the president's not only destroying Kentucky, he's destroying the Democrat Party down there because nobody wants to associate with him.
So what we really need is somebody that understands that we do need energy of all forms.
And that means we will have solar and wind and hydro, but we will still have coal and we still will have natural gas.
unidentified
And we've got to have an all-of-the-above policy.
All right.
alex jones
You know, I got to say, Rand Paul's not as strong as he should be on this.
Coal power plants in the United States are totally clean.
Nothing comes out but water and carbon dioxide.
But they list carbon dioxide as toxic and tax it to shut it down and then exempt insider companies.
And that's what he should be saying.
He knows that.
He should be talking like Putin.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
That at the end there is what really troubles me.
unidentified
Talking like Putin.
dan friesen
You should be talking like Putin.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
With these guys, like with Mankow and him, is it just like big swinging dicks?
Like they just like a guy who just says whatever he wants.
And then does whatever he wants.
Because that's what Trump is.
Trump is just a guy who says bullshit and then acts like he can do whatever he wants.
dan friesen
It's definitely a piece of the equation.
jordan holmes
So is it like a fantasy that they're trying to live out through these guys?
Like, they're always hampered by, oh, there's all these people telling me what I can and can't do, and I just want to do whatever the fuck I want to do whenever I want to do it.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, they hate the cucks.
jordan holmes
Like, they're fucking children.
dan friesen
They hate the cucks and all the people who bow down and grovel.
So, I mean, there is some piece of it that's that.
I don't think it's the whole story.
It definitely is what is attractive to them about certain people and unattractive about others.
But we gotta move through this, because you have a hard out to get to your show.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We have a bit to get through.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
We're already at almost two hours?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Christ.
So, here we get to November 12th, the last day of our investigation.
And at this point, Alex has become keenly aware that the Paris Climate Accord is coming up.
jordan holmes
He's just figured it out.
dan friesen
The summit is coming up, and he realizes he needs to make that the narrative of global government being...
Absolutely.
And so he's going to jump onto that narrative pretty hard.
But he does that in a really weird way.
Listen to this clip about his climate change denial.
And try and listen for where it's different from things he's said in the past.
alex jones
I can't even believe it's gone this far.
And what's even sicker is it's ExxonMobil.
And British Petroleum and Dutch Royal Shell, those three, are the biggest funders of the whole man-made climate change garbage to shut down coal, their main competitor.
And they're so sophisticated, the left doesn't even know they work for them, and then they have New York State investigating ExxonMobil.
Claiming they paid for fake science.
dan friesen
They did.
alex jones
It wasn't fake science.
That was 15 years ago.
They were ordered by the board head, David Rockefeller, to convert and support it, and they have since then.
Incredible.
Incredible.
This is just incredible.
dan friesen
It's incredible in the sense that it's not credible.
jordan holmes
So wait, he's saying that oil is funding climate change research, or not research, Doing something about it in order to take down Cole.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Why does he want Cole so bad?
dan friesen
Because he believes that it is like the most plentiful...
A source of energy that could power the planet for the next thousand years, and the technology that we have is totally clean now, which it's not.
Not even close.
He's totally lying about that.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
But, yeah, he just thinks that, well, okay, so here's the problem.
jordan holmes
One thing we do know is that Exxon knew that climate change, that they were contributing to it 30 years ago, and lied about it the entire time.
And not just lied about it, but pulled a full-on nicotine tobacco company, and we're like, no!
It's totally fine.
Doctors should cause climate change.
dan friesen
And they actively paid for climate change studies.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Climate change denying studies.
But in Alex Jones' conception, the clip that he just put out there, they paid for climate change positive studies in order to take out coal, which doesn't make sense.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And it doesn't...
It does not reflect reality.
But the more important thing, and the reason that clip is fascinating to me, is because it's not what he usually says.
He's saying that the climate change lie, in his mind, is being put out by British Petroleum, all those companies he listed, Shell, and those, in order to take out coal.
In the past...
His frequent narrative is that it's the UN that is doing this in order to get climate credits and carbon taxes going in order to cut off energy to the third world and what have you.
It's completely different.
jordan holmes
Eh, but he runs in, he's got Rockefeller in there, so he's...
dan friesen
He did drop a name.
jordan holmes
He's trying to put those, you know, Rockefeller is one of the globalists, of course.
dan friesen
Right, but it's not the same, like, it's very different goals or storylines that he's pitching in terms of what climate change is about.
It's fucking stupid.
Right.
jordan holmes
Narrative consistency is not his strong suit.
dan friesen
It's certainly not.
But he does stay on topics a bit sometimes.
And on the 12th, he does get back into the people at Mizzou.
He wants to get into how stupid these protesters are.
And then...
jordan holmes
I believe it's called Mizzou.
dan friesen
Mizzou!
He says something bad about them, and then something exculpatory about a different group that is very bad.
And we'll see.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
And then I sat there last night and this morning for like three, four hours watching the raw videos.
dan friesen
I don't believe you did.
alex jones
From their Black Lives Matter sites and others.
And I realized these aren't even bad people on average.
These are really screwed up, damaged victims of re-education camp brainwashing.
When they heard that the Klan...
Was going to show up at the university.
The federally run Klan.
I mean, I've gone and protested the Klan more than 20 times.
There's usually about six or seven guys.
jordan holmes
Suck.
alex jones
It comes out later that they're all feds.
jordan holmes
All feds.
Maybe that's a problem.
alex jones
It's a photo op to stir up racial tension.
And it's come out the Southern Poverty Law Center and other groups have been connected and behind it.
White supremacist centers like Elohim City are run by them and the government.
I mean, this is sick.
dan friesen
Not true.
Would be sick.
alex jones
And I watched videos of the football players and the basketball players and the students running in fear and panicking.
Jakari had people run up to him and say, is it true?
Is it true?
Is the Klan here?
Are we safe?
And they canceled classes.
Had the police on alert.
That means SWAT team on the roof.
dan friesen
I don't believe that.
alex jones
And it was all completely made up.
But meanwhile, the very same football players and basketball players would intimidate members of the press and run over them.
dan friesen
I don't believe that there were snipers on roofs at all.
I don't believe that to be the case at any time during this.
But we brought it up at the beginning of this.
That was scandalous rumors and salaciousness of the Klan is coming and what have you.
And that's unfortunate.
That is sort of the problem of the social media age.
jordan holmes
And Jakari's like, yes, they are coming, and no, we are not safe.
dan friesen
I'm sure that they fed into it a little bit.
jordan holmes
I know I am part of InfoWars, but I also know that the Klan...
Does not recognize me as a good person.
dan friesen
They're all feds, though.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, there you go.
dan friesen
Which is not true.
But you understand what he's doing there.
He's taking the agency and power away from these black protesters by saying they are brainwashing victims of this campus brainwash center, and then they're worried about the Klan showing up, and we don't have to worry about white racism, because it's really just the government.
It's just feds trying to provoke racist hatred.
So...
jordan holmes
I mean, there is a certain amount of truth in that.
dan friesen
Well, black people standing up for themselves and pointing out institutional problems.
They're stupid and brainwashed.
White racism, not really real.
It's just...
jordan holmes
It's a brilliant tactic.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's what he thinks the difference is.
And unfortunately, even in that narrative, white people run the government.
dan friesen
Yeah, mostly.
jordan holmes
So even that is racist.
That does not justify his position on it at all.
dan friesen
Not really.
You're right.
That's an interesting argument that would be fun to point out to him.
I think it would end up in screaming.
jordan holmes
Yeah, probably.
dan friesen
I would assume.
I want to jump into this next clip because it's one of my favorite things ever.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex Jones was a victim growing up.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
He was a complete victim.
jordan holmes
He's still a victim.
dan friesen
Up till this point, we've never known what it was exactly that made him a victim.
And on this November 12th...
jordan holmes
It was his mom again.
dan friesen
No, it is not.
And it is not something you could ever predict.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I've seen the statistics.
jordan holmes
The sadistics.
alex jones
The average white person is collapsing into poverty.
Has no idea what's going on.
Hates themselves.
And then I have to sit here as a white man that knows this growing up around it and hear from you how I'm hiding my racism and how I'm hiding my privilege and all this crap.
Let me tell you what my privilege was.
My privilege was being singled out because I was so good looking when I was young.
I'm not very good looking now.
I was super good looking.
I look like a Calvin Klein model.
When I was about 14 to 23. Look at the photos online.
jordan holmes
I was too pretty!
I was too pretty!
alex jones
I'd walk into a room and almost every woman in the room would just turn their head.
jordan holmes
Fuck you!
alex jones
But let me tell you, I had to fight men continually because they didn't like it.
They didn't like pretty boy.
They thought they were going to kick my butt.
Whether they were black, Hispanic, or white.
dan friesen
I think that it's likely that he was an asshole.
But also, if that was true.
jordan holmes
Which it isn't.
dan friesen
Well, he was attractive when he was younger.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
That's definitely true.
jordan holmes
He was a Calvin Klein model.
dan friesen
The way he's presenting all this stuff isn't true.
But if it was, I would argue, Alex, you're making a compelling case about the evils of toxic masculinity.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Because if you had to fight men who didn't like that you were pretty and all the women wanted you, you are entirely embodying...
What a lot of people think is a big problem.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that is masculine threatened.
Yeah, that's ape.
Right.
jordan holmes
You are an animal.
If you're saying that shit, you are an animal.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You are not Mr. Steal Ya Girl.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You are an ape.
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
You're one step away from understanding, though, if you really believe that that is what happened in your life.
You are this close.
jordan holmes
He's always so close.
dan friesen
But hold on, this clip goes on further, and it gets worse.
alex jones
I've faced it all.
And I watch these little slack-jawed, snot-nosed, punk kids sit over there and complain about all the stuff they've been through while the ringleader is jacked in with Soros and Warren Buffett and his daddy made $8.2 million last year.
My daddy didn't make $8 million in the last 20 years.
I am sick of this garbage.
The idea...
That if you're white, you can't accomplish anything on your own as a load of bull.
unidentified
You're projecting.
alex jones
Totally and completely deranged.
And I want to help all these people.
I understand metaphysically, spiritually.
But at an organic level, I'm already set where I genuinely believe it.
But even if I was a bad person.
jordan holmes
Which you are.
alex jones
I would want others to succeed because I understand you reap what you sow.
The problem is evil people don't understand that metaphysical rule and they want to see others fail.
They believe they succeed when other people fail.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Says the guy who talks shit about Rush Limbaugh all the time.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Says the guy who talks shit about every other media company all the time.
dan friesen
Megyn Kelly.
jordan holmes
Says the guy who insists that everybody else is terrible and he's the only one who should succeed.
dan friesen
And if anyone criticizes him, likely they're a globalist.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
What kind of idiot can say that shit when it's so...
It's obvious that he is embodying...
He's not just a bad...
He's not just an evil person.
He's a bad person in the sense that he's bad at being a person.
dan friesen
Now you're pointing out hypocrisy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Fuck me.
dan friesen
I'm calling you out for your own shit.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
dan friesen
I love it when a fair enough comes with that angry tone.
jordan holmes
What?
What am I supposed to say?
You're right, and now I'm angry about it.
dan friesen
So Alex at this point gets back onto the climate stuff.
But here is a classic...
Shot in a chaser.
That's another one of those visuals we need to make.
Shot in a chaser.
Because this first clip is a load of bullshit, and Alex accidentally proves that it's a load of bullshit a minute later.
So here is the bullshit, and it is about Lord Moncton, the guy who Alex Jones believes is the only real climate scientist in the world, who tells him that if...
jordan holmes
You know their science is good if they've got Lord in front of their name.
dan friesen
If climate change advocates get their way, it will kill a billion people in the next six months or something like that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That's his argument that Lord Monkton makes that Alex always cites.
And I've listened to Lord Monkton speak.
He does not get into specifics.
jordan holmes
Odd.
dan friesen
He claims that he's gone through every climate change study and found an underlying assumption that they have wrong and then doesn't explain it.
Okay.
But here is the bullshit that Alex has to say about Lord Moncton.
jordan holmes
See, the problem is what they assume is reality.
And I disagree with that position.
dan friesen
I don't even know if he's a lord.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
If he's on Infowars, he's probably not an actual lord.
dan friesen
This is about Lord Moncton's relation to the climate festival, let's call it, in Paris.
Here we go.
alex jones
I told people about this ten years ago when they were first calling for it at the UN.
People didn't believe me.
Oh, they're not going to arrest you.
And they're now basically telling Lord Moxley and others, don't even try to come to Paris.
They're going to get Lord Moxley on ahead of this climate, this world government summit next month in Paris.
And they've tried to keep him out of other countries.
He's an amazing guy.
He parachuted into the one in Durban, South Africa, because they wouldn't let him in.
They had a whole area of the city shut down.
So he skydived into it.
Never skydived before.
That's daring.
That's a stunt.
He was in dozens and dozens of front page papers in South Africa with that one.
And that's all we need you to do is the same bold stunts against these dragons and we'll bring them down, folks.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
I was thinking in that small town inside.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's fair.
The entire country has dozens of papers.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
But be that as it may, how he ends that is that's what we need from you.
Daring stunts.
All you listeners, go parachute into places though you have not parachuted before.
That is actually true.
Lord Moncton did do that.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
He did parachute in as a publicity stunt.
jordan holmes
And he had never skydived before?
dan friesen
I can't confirm that or deny it.
But Alex Jones is saying that Lord Moncton and others are being threatened to not even show up in Paris.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Don't come.
jordan holmes
Don't even walk into the city.
dan friesen
You're a persona non grata.
Now, at this point, one of his interns Googles the climate change accords in Paris, and Alex learns this.
alex jones
So they're going to have the Pope and everybody else there in Bloomberg and all the usual suspects.
Felipe Calderon.
unidentified
Felipe Calderon.
Thank you.
alex jones
Wow, Lord Moncton is actually...
jordan holmes
That long pause was so heavy.
alex jones
He's actually listed by the UN?
unidentified
That long pause was so heavy.
jordan holmes
God.
Every moment of that pause was beautiful.
dan friesen
Alex Jones accidentally learns on air that Lord Moncton is an invited speaker at the Paris Sports.
jordan holmes
Did he have papers up going?
dan friesen
No, because the intern had the UN website open that has the list and all the pictures of the speakers, and he's scrolling down it, and it's like, Paul, fuck these guys.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Lord Moncton.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
I just said a minute ago that he's being threatened and told not to show up.
jordan holmes
And it turns out the UN was threatening him to show up.
How dare you not show up, Lord Moncton?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We need to know what you have to say.
Is somebody at the door?
dan friesen
A very light knock at the door there.
jordan holmes
That was a very light knock.
I don't know if I can...
I don't know if I can hear anybody at the door.
dan friesen
Hello, it's Lord Moncton!
jordan holmes
You are bad at accents.
dan friesen
And Alex is busted.
That bit didn't work.
Let's retire that fucking thing.
jordan holmes
I don't know why you ever started doing it.
dan friesen
Quite frankly.
I just like saying, you busted.
jordan holmes
You busted.
dan friesen
You busted, Alex.
So, after this point, he gets back onto the race issues, and Alex accidentally, he does everything by accident, but on air, he accidentally reveals he's a huge racist by complaining about racism.
So, it'll make sense on the other end of this clip.
jordan holmes
Sounds good.
alex jones
But look at this one.
Administered to teachers in St. Louis Public School District.
The White Privilege Survey.
Infowars.com.
And, I mean, you cannot believe the questions here.
jordan holmes
I bet I could.
alex jones
Can I speak in the public to a powerful group without putting my race on trial?
Well, I mean, that's the neuroses of people that are obsessed with only their race.
Of course I can.
I can choose blemish cover or bandages in flesh color and have them more or less match my color of skin.
What does that mean?
It's like mental illness.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
alex jones
I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I cannot be followed or harassed.
I mean, it's just, this is just, man, this is re-education camp garbage.
Briefly, we are still running the special.
Purchase products at infowarestore.com and funds this whole operation.
We appreciate you supporting.
dan friesen
Smooth, smooth, baby.
jordan holmes
And it's so clear that he's reading that going like...
I can do all of these things.
That doesn't seem to be a problem.
dan friesen
He says, can I speak to people without putting my race on trial?
Of course I can!
Which is the point.
jordan holmes
When I get flesh-colored bandages, are they the same color as my skin?
dan friesen
This is mental illness.
Duh!
unidentified
Are you saying that there are other skin colors?
dan friesen
I have pulled up this checklist here.
I'll flash it up on camera.
We can read a few of these.
I can, if I wish, to arrange to be in the company of people my race most of the time.
All right.
I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.
When I'm told about our national heritage or civilization, I'm shown that people of my color made it what it is.
I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.
So, I mean, it just goes on.
It goes on like this.
Whether I use checks, credit cards, or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of financial reliability.
So, I mean, what this is is a list of things that white people take for granted about their daily existence that people who aren't white have to deal with.
This is the conversation that people are having when they talk about white privilege.
jordan holmes
And it should be the one that everybody's having.
dan friesen
Right, but it's so fascinating to me that Alex is furious about this, so he pulls up this thing and doesn't understand the premise of it.
Like, you nailed it with me.
jordan holmes
So inadvertently proving every single thing that everybody is saying.
One thousand percent.
Like, he has no idea that he's making their argument.
dan friesen
Yep.
Yep.
You are embodying the problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
While you are like...
I'm gonna guess, at least in terms of that Band-Aid example, he just didn't understand what it was saying.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
I'm gonna guess in that case.
But with the speaking to powerful people without putting my race on trial, that's him not engaging with the idea at all.
It's just, oh yeah, I guess I do.
Because otherwise he'd have to be like, I do do that to black people.
jordan holmes
Of course I can.
dan friesen
That is interesting.
I do single out all of the people who are black that end up speaking up.
Ah, shit.
I gotta re-examine some stuff.
jordan holmes
Not even just that.
Just, like, the idea that he's there.
He's like, of course I can.
And he can't do that next.
Like, there's one step that you go a little bit further and is like, can everyone do that?
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
And he can't process that second question.
dan friesen
That is the idea.
jordan holmes
Like, the entire point of that survey is, like, answer these questions.
Guess what?
These are things that other people can't do.
So if other people can't do them, and you can, That's privilege.
That's the definition of privilege.
dan friesen
His response would be like, I don't believe they can't do it.
It's all a bunch of media Soros-funded foundation bullshit.
It's all a bunch of, of course you can do these things.
Because he doesn't want to engage with anyone else's experience.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but I mean, the flesh-colored bandage one seems pretty obvious.
dan friesen
That's why he can't understand it.
It's so obvious that he's like, who cares?
jordan holmes
That's probably true.
dan friesen
Put some white over your skin.
Who gives a shit?
jordan holmes
That one just seems so simple, though.
dan friesen
Now.
Jordan, we reach today's crazy.
It is time for the guest on the November 12th show.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And this guy is one of my favorite crazies.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Of the rogues gallery of Alex Jones' associated team of weirdos, this guy is up there.
Top-level weirdo.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
He does not show up very much.
His name is Professor Daryl Hamamoto.
He is a teacher, a professor at the University of California at Davis.
And I'm certain that what happened was that he got crazy at a certain point after they gave him tenure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds about right.
dan friesen
Because I can't imagine they don't want to get rid of him, and they never would have hired him in his current state.
So...
Daryl Hamamoto is a very interesting, historically...
jordan holmes
What classes does he teach?
dan friesen
I'm not sure what he teaches now, although I think some of it is about conspiracy stuff.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But he originally came into his own and was a professor in Asian American Studies, specifically in terms of sexuality.
He wrote a couple of books about the desexualization of the Asian man.
And there's an interesting conversation to have there.
jordan holmes
That is an interesting conversation to have.
dan friesen
I'm never going to read any of his books because I don't want to.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But I do think that that's an interesting study.
jordan holmes
And you have that privilege.
dan friesen
Exactly.
That's on the checklist.
jordan holmes
As opposed to Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Well, he doesn't need any of those books either.
But Daryl Hamamoto showed up on Alex Jones' show, and we covered him in a past episode, but I realized that it was an episode that Justin Golak was hosting with me.
unidentified
Ah!
dan friesen
So, for your advantage, I need you to listen to this clip from the last time Hamamoto blessed us with a visit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because this is...
Worth revisiting.
darrell hamamoto
You recall the so-called Women's March on Washington that Soros funded?
And you saw the so-called Pussycap?
Well, here is one of our solutions.
We're going to use the phallic guitars in pudenda pink.
This happens to be a pure Americana Fender Esquire guitar.
I took it to one of the social justice warrior rallies with my little Fender Champ amp.
And I asked to sit in.
I watched them on YouTube, and I figured out what they were trying to do.
They were trying to propagandize undergraduates with rap and hip-hop and funk.
So I said, what would be the gayest instrument in my collection that I could take to this event?
It was my pink Esquire, my pudenda pink Esquire.
And they wouldn't let me sit in.
They said, I'm sorry, brother, we just can't let it happen.
And they were hired.
This is part of the...
The cultural takeover.
dan friesen
So, uh, that's...
jordan holmes
What's the gayest instrument in my collection?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That is something I ask myself every day.
dan friesen
Also, the interest in hip-hop and funk is propaganda that they're trying to inculcate in the minds of the freshmen.
jordan holmes
Just the way that he hit funk.
Hip-hop and rap and funk.
How dare they move their hips?
Elvis, I'll tell you, let me get on Elvis for a second.
dan friesen
All right, Hamamoto.
So to troll them, he brings his gay pink guitar and a little...
And he wants to sit in and play with them, and they're like, nah, you can't do that.
I think it was probably because he's like a 60-year-old dude.
And they're just like, I know you're fucking with us.
Get away.
And if you go to UC Davis, I guarantee you know who this guy is.
Because every campus has some professor that's notorious.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was thinking about it.
I'm certain that he got hired when he was writing these books about Asian-American desexualization.
And they're like, this is fascinating.
Please teach some classes on this.
Then he got tenure.
Then he went crazy.
And they're in too deep.
They can't fire him because of the tenure.
So I was thinking back on my college experience, and I had a human sexuality professor named Joe Lopicolo.
And I love saying his name.
He's great.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
He clearly was a very smart, interesting, good speaker, good teacher in the 70s.
And then he had a stroke.
And when I had him, it was past stroke.
And he could barely speak in lectures, and he was a very ineffective professor.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I realized...
jordan holmes
This is after he had left his friendship with Goku.
dan friesen
What is it?
jordan holmes
Alright, never mind.
That one's for, like, three people who listen.
dan friesen
You dumbass nerds.
jordan holmes
I will get 30 tweets.
dan friesen
Stop listening, you dumb nerds.
jordan holmes
I will get 30 tweets about it.
dan friesen
It'll be fantastic.
The point I was getting at is, like, when you're tenured, it's very difficult to get rid of you.
And until Jolo Piccolo would want to retire, they wouldn't be able to get rid of him, even though, like, he played videos of himself in class from...
Years passed, and he was clearly a completely different speaker and very articulate, and it made me incredibly sad to be in that class.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
It made me empathize with him a lot.
It was the most tragic day in class.
He put up a slide on the projector that showed the breakdown of grades in the class, and almost everyone was failing.
It was just like, because we can't pay attention to the lectures.
What's going on?
We don't understand what you're saying.
It was so tragic.
And on a less tragic level, Daryl Hamamoto clearly went nuts at a certain point.
Started to think about globalist stuff like Alex, the Illuminati, and what have you.
And now they're just like, fuck, we can't get rid of him until he retires.
jordan holmes
I think it is something that men at around 40, 45 just start to lose it.
dan friesen
Just started to get into globalists?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, or, like, you know, the old saying is, like, if you're not a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart.
If you're not a conservative when you're 40, you have no brain, right?
dan friesen
I'm thrilled to report that my dad is now in his 60s, and he is still going strong and a good old liberal.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And very smart, and the chair of a religious studies department at University of Texas, Austin.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
So...
jordan holmes
He does have a pink pussy guitar, though.
dan friesen
He does.
unidentified
He does.
dan friesen
The pudenda pink.
So, Hamamoto comes in, and Alex wants to have him on the show because of all the craziness that's going on on campuses, like Mizzou.
He also brings up Yale, because Yale, they had that situation where students were mad about racist Halloween costumes, and Alex thinks, just wear some costumes, who cares?
But, he has Hamamoto in.
And he presents him as a whistleblower because Daryl Hamamoto had like a Rockefeller grant or something like that.
And so Alex believes that he's gone through some sort of indoctrination from the Rockefeller Foundation and that that makes him like, he knows inside stuff.
When the reality is, the Rockefeller grants, the Ford Foundation grants...
are just things that are given out to people who apply for them.
Yeah.
unidentified
And they are there to create diversity in universities in terms of the faculty.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
So Hamamoto almost certainly got one of these grants because he was pursuing an avenue of study that would be incredibly advantageous to a university to have.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
unidentified
And maybe they wouldn't have the budget to pay him.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
So the grant comes in and the foundation pays part of this professor's salary.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
If you look into it, there's...
dan friesen
Tons of organizations like this, including the Koch brothers, have their own foundation that gives out grants.
Right.
There is a fellowship at the University of Missouri that for years and years was untouched.
$1.1 million was given as an endowment to pay for a professor's salary by Kenneth Lay from Enron.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Because he went to the University of Missouri.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And no one would take that money.
Right.
I think someone did end up...
jordan holmes
I got the Enron scholarship, guys.
Don't worry about it.
This is all good.
dan friesen
It's for professors.
jordan holmes
Right.
No, no, no.
I know.
I'm just saying.
dan friesen
But I think someone did end up taking it at some point.
unidentified
But anyway...
jordan holmes
I mean, it's free money.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But it took years for someone to be that craven to touch it.
jordan holmes
I mean, you want to have some distance between you and the greatest scam ever pulled off.
dan friesen
Let me be clear.
I'd take it.
jordan holmes
Of course!
I wish Enron would invest in this podcast.
dan friesen
That'd be great.
jordan holmes
Are they still around?
dan friesen
No.
Alex Jones believes Daryl Hamamoto to be a whistleblower of the inside of the Ford Foundations and all that stuff.
He is not.
But Alex Jones treats him like a whistleblower and like he is preaching the gospel.
Whereas, as we know...
He wants to bring a gay guitar to Occupy Wall Street protests and jam with the guys.
jordan holmes
Also gospel.
dan friesen
So he is going to say a bunch of incredibly stupid stuff in this, and let's just jump into it.
darrell hamamoto
Like you're saying, it is a program.
The students are in an electropharmaceutical gulag, and it's no accident that whatever campus you go to, it's the same program, it's the same scenario.
You have these subsets of what you could call the crisis actor that we saw rolled out in Sandy Hook, and now they've been deployed.
alex jones
You've got the Soros-connected railroad head who's got his son out there triggering and running the whole op.
dan friesen
So already we've gone Sandy Hook was Crisis Actors.
jordan holmes
Sandy Hook was Crisis Actors.
dan friesen
Alex signed off on that, so clearly he's not pushing back.
He believes this is not a debate.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And then you have this, what we started the show off with, where Alex is saying, maybe there's a Soros connection.
We're going to look into it.
Now he's reporting it just as gospel without proving it.
So, I mean, it's just nonsense.
But let's get back to Hamamoto.
alex jones
Well, he probably got just a few other operatives.
They're then giving media attention.
They're then the victim, and then they then lead the sheep to slaughter.
darrell hamamoto
That's right.
These are Judas goats.
They're the alpha goats.
And as you pointed out earlier, there's a certain subset within that, and they're typically aligned with some sort of GLBTQIA agenda, or they come out of gender and sexuality studies.
By the way, they don't even call it women's studies anymore because part of this is gender.
Is to take us into a post-gender world, a transhumanist, post-human world.
alex jones
That's right.
They're not freeing us sexually.
You're an expert on this.
They are ending our sexual power.
darrell hamamoto
That's right.
They're going to take us to the next level, as it said.
And that's the level where there is no gender differentiation.
So you see this woman, Melissa Click, who thankfully resigned.
She's a crisis actor.
It's going to be interesting to see if one of your listeners want to track her to see where she shows up, but I'm sure she has a job waiting for her someplace.
dan friesen
So you want to stalk this crisis actor?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no.
Is he actually saying it'll be interesting if one of your listeners fucking stalks somebody?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, we don't need to stalk her because she's a public person, and she got hired by Gonzaga.
That's what happened.
unidentified
Yeah?
dan friesen
How's she doing?
I don't know.
She's at Gonzaga.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Isn't it Gonzaga?
dan friesen
I don't care.
Anyway, that's what happened to her.
She's not a crisis actor.
She's just someone who was dumb in the heat of the moment and did something unadvised that went viral.
That's about it.
It's not a crisis actor.
Do you know about the crisis?
jordan holmes
So you've been publicly shamed.
dan friesen
Right.
Do you know about the crisis actor world?
Do you know about the people who believe that stuff?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So they believe that...
jordan holmes
I know that it's Sandy Hook deniers, but...
dan friesen
Right.
It's everything.
All of these, like Boston bombing, everything.
All the people that you see on the news who are talking about it, everyone who pretends that they have a child that died at Sandy Hook, they're all crisis actors that are run out of this giant organization by the government to pull off these false flags.
And what they do is they change their appearance a bunch.
And you can tell slightly different appearing people always show up at all of these places.
And so if you go online, you can find this very easily.
There's tons of YouTube videos where they're like...
Alright, now you see the principal at Sandy Hook happens to look just like the sister of someone who died at the Boston bombing.
And I can tell you that they're the same people, because what we've done is check out their earlobes.
It's a wild world.
If you go even further into it, there's a lot of people who believe that these people are actually celebrities who are in movies.
That they change their appearance to play these roles in the crisis acting.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
So Christian Bale is even better at acting than we ever thought.
dan friesen
Yeah, and Johnny Knoxville is like a bunch of different people who have been on the show.
jordan holmes
They recruited Johnny Knoxville.
dan friesen
Johnny Knoxville is...
jordan holmes
Notorious asshole.
dan friesen
Johnny Knoxville is one of the ones that I specifically remember because they were like, look at it.
It's the same guy.
It's like, they don't look anything alike.
jordan holmes
Why would you...
If you're the...
Okay, fine.
It's fine.
It's just like...
dan friesen
It's prohibitive.
jordan holmes
These people aren't conspiracy theorists or anything like that.
They're just reality deniers.
We shouldn't call them climate deniers.
They should be called reality deniers.
dan friesen
Well, in the case of the crisis actors, it's also just the logistics denier.
The idea of the immense difficulty that it would take to pull this off would be...
jordan holmes
Like Season 7 of Game of Thrones.
It's like, how did they get there?
How long did it take?
dan friesen
Sure.
All right.
Moving on.
jordan holmes
It was very inconsistent, is my point.
dan friesen
In this next clip, Alex Jones asks...
jordan holmes
Probably should have spent more time on it.
dan friesen
Maybe one extra episode?
jordan holmes
Maybe two.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex asks about the similarities between what's going on on our campuses and the...
jordan holmes
Johnny Knoxville.
dan friesen
Nope.
The Chinese People's Revolutions and what have you.
And Hamamoto goes off on a weird fucking tangent, and it delights me.
alex jones
It's so bold that they would, and please keep getting into the facts and the techniques of how they do it, but it's really as bold they'd try this here.
And I guess it's working like a charm, except you're fighting back and many others are now fighting back.
It may backfire on them.
Please keep elaborating.
darrell hamamoto
Well, any number of professors, my colleagues, even at UC Davis, are meaning to man up on this issue.
Sorry for using the second language.
I got in trouble for talking to a provost and using that.
alex jones
No, no, I understand.
We need to do that, not because we're trying to...
Just showing everything's programmed.
Please continue.
darrell hamamoto
I'm doing it as a deliberate, provocative gesture just to antagonize these rats who are spying on me right now.
But, yeah, these...
Well, first of all, let me establish.
I've done some research on...
dan friesen
So, at this point, he said...
jordan holmes
He is being watched.
As we speak.
dan friesen
Rats are spying on him.
jordan holmes
They are spying on him.
dan friesen
This should just be the first indication that Daryl Hamamoto is an incredibly paranoid man.
darrell hamamoto
Yeah.
dan friesen
Listen to this.
jordan holmes
The thing about it, though, is he's so very blasé about that paranoia.
He's like, these rats spying on me all the time, you know?
dan friesen
You know what that's called?
That's called a flat affect.
He has no...
He doesn't have peaks and valleys in the way he expresses things.
And that, I'm not sure...
jordan holmes
Gives him more of a sense of credibility?
dan friesen
It's a sign of...
jordan holmes
Sociopathy?
dan friesen
Basically.
I don't mean to sound like I know a lot about psychology, but it is indicative of a disconnect with the world around you.
And I'm not saying that he necessarily has that, but boy, it seems like it.
Based on Sandy Hook denial, crisis actors, someone spying on me, and I'll hear this.
darrell hamamoto
Chancellor Linda Katehi.
Who, by the way, is deducting 25% of my salary for the next five months.
dan friesen
Good.
darrell hamamoto
And I call here and now for her immediate resignation as chancellor of the University of California, Davis.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, she ended up getting fired pretty shortly after this, but not for any of the things that he alleges.
It turns out that she had misappropriated campus funds and hired her daughter and son-in-law, or son-in-law and daughter, I can't remember exactly.
jordan holmes
Gave them fake positions and then paid them a salary.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
The classic, the one that's...
Knock down a few politicians in Britain now.
dan friesen
And Hamamoto's complaints about her are wide-ranging, but that's not anywhere near it.
jordan holmes
Does he hit the bullseye?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Was he like, what she's doing is blatant corruption, and we can't have that, so I call on her to resign.
dan friesen
If we want to use the dart metaphor, he hits the house next door.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
He doesn't even hit the board or the wall.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
It's through the window next door.
Okay.
darrell hamamoto
Because she is engaged in actions that go counter to the Constitution, the U.S. Constitution, and to the very principles of academic freedom.
So, Linda Katehi, stand down.
And while you're at it, please take the president of the UC system, Janet Napolitano, with you, and Dean Susan Kaiser, who has stationed an emeritus professor in my classes, both of them.
He's attending every single one of my lectures and taking copious notes so that he can pass it to the commissars.
So why don't you three resign?
Leave us alone.
We're going to rebuild the University of California without you.
dan friesen
So a sane person would listen to that clip and think, they are probably trying to find something he's doing that we can fire him for because we accidentally gave a lunatic tenure.
That is probably what's going on.
No, he portrays it as, like, they're spying on me.
jordan holmes
That would be hilarious.
Now I kind of want to take one of his classes, because that would be hilarious if he was spot on as a professor.
But just a lunatic in his downtime.
dan friesen
I've read some...
jordan holmes
Like somebody who just smokes a ton of crack but still does a great job, and then they go home and they're just cracked out all the time.
dan friesen
There's that website, Rate My Professors.
You can go on there and read some reviews of his classes.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
He's a 3.5 out of 5. That's a lot better than I would have expected.
Yeah, but the negative ones are like, he will just scream at you if you disagree, and stuff like that, which is like, yeah, checks out.
jordan holmes
Okay.
That makes sense.
dan friesen
In that clip that we...
We just heard he's being spied on in his classes, but he's not going to take that laying down.
And he's got a message for the snitches that he wants to get out on Alex Jones' show in this next clip.
alex jones
Talk about how popular you are.
That's why they're trying to get rid of you.
darrell hamamoto
Well, in all modesty, I was teaching introductory classes of 200 students, and my classes were routinely oversubscribed.
And the university is so sleazy, they put one of these controllers into the I'm a departmental chair of my department, and he hired somebody specifically, and then she hired four student snitches assistants to empty out my classes.
And she went on social media, Twitter, Facebook, in order to do so.
Now, eventually, she got thrown under the bus, and that's a warning to all you snitches out there who think you're going to get over by screwing with people, whether it's me or someone else.
But eventually they're going to roll over on you.
So keep that in mind before you attend one of these bogus encampments, these so-called safe spaces, or before you turn your soul over to so-called the student community center.
jordan holmes
So-called.
dan friesen
Right.
It's the way that Alex does the so-called minorities and stuff like that.
Yeah.
He's just trying to invalidate people who have, you know, progressive ideas.
jordan holmes
The student community center.
dan friesen
So-called.
jordan holmes
So-called.
dan friesen
So now, I told you what happened to Linda Katehi.
She ended up getting fired for misappropriation of funds and shit.
Here, in this next clip, our man Hamamoto gets into what he thinks she should be fired for, and it's loony.
darrell hamamoto
And you can also tell by the identification, for example, Linda Katehi, the chancellor at UC Davis, she's an engineer by training.
And by the way, she holds 19 patents for antennas.
And antennas are key to this whole EMF regime that's part of the mind control system.
dan friesen
So, he believes that there are EMF...
jordan holmes
It's antennas!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's why she's got to go.
dan friesen
She holds patents for antennas.
19 antennas.
jordan holmes
I gotcha.
unidentified
I gotcha that.
dan friesen
But the reason for that is because he believes on campuses, There is a dual-pronged attack on students.
The first prong is getting them all on psychiatric drugs.
And then the second is EMF fields that are manipulating people and turning them into zombies.
So, Linda Katehi is only in the position that she's in as the chancellor of the school.
jordan holmes
Because she's hypnotizing everyone.
dan friesen
Because she has 19...
Also, by the way, patents are public.
I went and looked into these patents.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
They're brain control, baby.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
No, they're not.
One of them that I read the full thing of, I breezed through all of them to see, like, is there a mind control in here or anything?
jordan holmes
She just out and out.
This is my mind control pattern.
dan friesen
Most of them are for antennas that can serve dual purposes.
So you can get GPS and radio as opposed to having two antenna for them.
They go into great detail about how you need two boards in there to ground one signal.
It's all very boring.
But that's the sort of stuff that she was actually inventing.
jordan holmes
She was an engineer.
dan friesen
Also, you can get a patent at the patent office without creating something.
jordan holmes
You can get a patent for fucking anything.
dan friesen
Those 19, all of them might not actually be real.
She might have just come up with them and filed the patents in order to be a placeholder for when she does create them.
jordan holmes
Or she could become a patent troll, and the next time somebody makes the same thing, she can be like, ha-ha!
I have the patent on this.
dan friesen
Based on her ethical status of giving her kids jobs.
jordan holmes
Most likely.
dan friesen
It could be a situation like that, that she came up with the idea and has no intention of making it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's possible, but it's not brain control.
Hamamoto is crazy.
jordan holmes
Hamamoto is crazy.
Unless she's controlling his brain to make him crazy.
dan friesen
That's interesting.
jordan holmes
That would discredit all of his theories.
dan friesen
That's possible.
jordan holmes
Like, maybe she just hates Asian people.
dan friesen
Could be.
jordan holmes
Did you consider that?
dan friesen
I didn't.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
So, I do wonder...
jordan holmes
Mystery solved.
dan friesen
We can wonder all day about that, but...
jordan holmes
Can we?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Can we wonder all day about that?
dan friesen
We gotta shut it down now.
So, we've gotten into, like, what makes Hamamoto special and unique.
Yeah.
But you could still...
jordan holmes
Vaccine.
dan friesen
You could still make the argument that he's crazy, but maybe he's a good teacher.
In this next clip, he describes...
What I would call a really negative approach towards being a teacher.
Listen to this and see if you feel the same way as me.
darrell hamamoto
But she has declared herself as part of the gender and sexuality studies, even though she has no academic expertise in the area.
So that's a big area.
It's the GLBTQIA department and programs.
That the so-called student activists are being recruited from.
And those are the people that come into my class most recently in a sexuality class that sit in the back, and you showed a video earlier, and they start questioning you aggressively.
They try to sweat you.
They'll wear little fright wigs, little purple wigs, and just all of a sudden spontaneously, as if they were mind-controlled, which they are, and they'll start spontaneously asking you these questions.
All you have to do is break them down individually, and they begin to crumble.
Another technique I've known has said, yeah, come up to the stage, the front of the stage.
Here's an open microphone.
Tell me what you want to see in this class.
And they have nothing.
They have nothing.
By the way, this is a technique that a lot of comedians, stand-up people like Seinfeld, will use.
They'll just turn the light on the heckler.
And they don't have anything.
jordan holmes
If you are doing that, you are not a good comedian.
dan friesen
Do not do that.
Seinfeld doesn't do that.
He plays arenas.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Also, that to me seems like you have the mentality that you're fighting your students.
And to me, that's not productive education.
jordan holmes
Well, I just don't even like it when they ask questions.
How do you not spontaneously ask?
There's no other way to ask a question.
You can't, like...
dan friesen
Hamamoto, I warn you, in two minutes, I'm going to ask you a question.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what are you talking about?
Spontaneously ask a question.
dan friesen
I had no warning.
I had no warning.
jordan holmes
It's almost as though part of learning is answering questions!
dan friesen
It's almost like the responsibility of a professor is having dialogues with students.
And whenever someone asks a question, it's an opportunity to learn, my dude.
Come on, Hamamoto.
jordan holmes
And he's just using classic intimidation.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
All of this shit.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
Oh, you're different, so fuck you.
dan friesen
Your fright wig.
jordan holmes
God, that's GLBT.
Fuck you.
That's such that bullshit that he does, or that they all do.
dan friesen
It's invalidating in any ways.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
But look, dude.
We've got to get through this.
We're fast approaching the...
jordan holmes
I've got a hard out, yeah.
dan friesen
And we have a little bit more of Hamamoto to get through.
And then we'll be out of this biatch.
We'll be home free.
Yeah, so in this next clip, we get into some of the reasons why he believes these antennas are a mind-control device.
And boy, is it stupid.
darrell hamamoto
Yeah, welcome to the monkey house.
And it's interesting that you brought up Dr. Nick Begich.
I was going to speak.
Just some of the really early on discoveries or insights that Dr. Begich had, and that was his work on HAARP.
What we're seeing here with students on campus is that crazed look, that Maoist, Kami look that you have seen in people both on tape and in person.
That comes from EMF.
This is HAARP.
This is HAARP in action.
dan friesen
So he's talking about a guy named Nick Begich.
And it's kind of interesting.
His dad, Nick Begich Sr., was actually a member of Congress in some form, and he died in a plane crash.
And Nick Begich Jr. came to prominence by claiming that his dad was taken out, that the government had taken him out.
So Nick Begich Jr. is a guy who wrote a famous book, famous in quotes, called Angels Don't Play This Harp.
It's about harp.
jordan holmes
That's a great name for a book.
I'm not going to lie.
That's a pretty good name.
dan friesen
I don't disagree.
jordan holmes
It's a solid name.
dan friesen
So, on his website, he has his...
jordan holmes
It also sounds like a good saying.
Like, I would like to see...
Oh, angels don't play this harp.
dan friesen
That's like these colors don't run.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So, he has a website called earthpulse.com.
And if you go to it, he has a listing of his resume.
And it says this.
Nick Begich received Doctor of Medicine, Medicina Alternativa, Honoris Causa, honorific degree, for independent work in health and political science from the Open International University for Complementary Medicines, Colombo, Sri Lanka, in November 1994.
jordan holmes
Sri Lanka.
He got a fake degree from a Sri Lankan alternative medicine.
Maybe university.
dan friesen
The Open International University appears to be a diploma mill.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it has been described as the grandfather of diploma mills.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, at least he went to the top one.
dan friesen
Diploma mills that sell MD degrees seem particularly dangerous.
Lord Pandit.
Moncton.
unidentified
Professor Dr. Sir Anton Jurioski of Sri Lanka created Medicina Alternativa International in Sri Lanka and claimed to be affiliated with the Open International University.
dan friesen
Presumably...
Named that way to be confused with the Open University of Sri Lanka, which is a real school.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
He sold diplomas for various fields.
I have a copy of his charge list for 1962.
For $3,750 U.S. dollars, one could buy any of the following degrees.
MD, MDTM, Doctor of Acupuncture, or PhD.
These letters explain what it stands for.
You can get master's and regular degrees for $100, $145.
jordan holmes
Man, that's...
That's so much cheaper than what I went to college for and worth almost as much.
dan friesen
Jeffrey Dumet, an Australian neuropath who bought his doctorate from the Sri Lankan diploma mill, was charged with manslaughter and the death of a 37-year-old kidney patient.
His natural detoxification program took 11 kilograms off his patient in 10 days and hastened the patient's death, according to the prosecutor.
Which, I mean, if you want to talk about the liver cleanse and stuff like that, the kidney cleanse, the gallbladder cleanse that Alex sells through Dr. Group, who also has a fake degree.
What?
The thing that they talk about it working is often related to weight loss, which could be very similar.
And if someone was using them and had a condition, it probably could kill them, much like this case here with this Australian neuropath.
So Nick Begich started to do a bunch of bullshit about HAARP.
He got into HAARP.
And if you want to look into it, it's pretty interesting.
Because everyone talks about HAARP being this massive weapon that can be used to shoot ray beams.
It's basically the MacGuffin.
In terms of any time you need an explanation for something like, how do you control hurricanes?
HAARP!
It's HAARP and DARPA are the two that everyone always goes, fuck it, it's that.
Who cares?
It's that.
Don't worry about it.
Breakdowns have been done of the amount of energy that comes out of these HAARP antennas.
And it's so absurd.
jordan holmes
It's cold fusion.
dan friesen
Everyone thinks it's massively powerful.
But if you break it down and compare it to the amount of radiation that just comes from the sun, naturally, it's not even comparable.
So it's just stupid.
It's just really stupid.
The harp stuff is dumb.
Hamamoto is fucking dumb for calling Nick Begich Dr. Begich.
Clearly means that he's never looked into this.
He just accepts whatever this wild dude, who again had a great name for a book.
jordan holmes
Great name for a book.
Gotta give him that.
dan friesen
He's a doctor of book naming.
He's a doctor of book naming.
jordan holmes
That's better than a lot of PhDs I know.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you that right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, my dad has a book and it's like, what the fuck is the title of this?
Ephesus Twice Neokoros or something like that.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
That's not gonna move the book.
jordan holmes
Angels don't play that harp.
dan friesen
Exactly.
Should've named it.
Something like that.
So one more thing here that Alex Jones and Hamamoto talk about that's dumb is another thing that Hamamoto believes in.
alex jones
I'm telling you, it is a fantastical time to be alive.
As scary as it is, Professor, isn't it exciting that we are conscious in trying to figure this out?
I mean, it's an adventure.
darrell hamamoto
It is an adventure.
I am so glad, happy, honored to be here in 2015, joining in this battle with you and the liberty-loving people in America and around the world to take back our civilization.
And we are going to win, because all I have to do is talk to the gang stalkers individually, and they melt, they break down.
The programming just disappears.
It's not that strong.
alex jones
Because you've got humanity.
jordan holmes
And it's electrical.
darrell hamamoto
Exactly.
They know I'm real.
They know I'm sincere.
They know I don't have an axe to grind or a hidden agenda.
dan friesen
Your agenda is very public.
And it's wild.
jordan holmes
It's a bad agenda.
It is not hidden.
True.
dan friesen
Do you know about gang stalking?
jordan holmes
I have no idea what gang stalking is.
dan friesen
So it's the belief that a lot of really paranoid people have that large groups of people are stalking them.
So it would be like if you keep seeing certain people in your day-to-day life, you create the belief within your head that all of them are working together to drive you crazy.
And it's a very, very clear sign of almost a schizoid paranoia.
I don't know if it's ever been done, quite frankly.
Maybe it has at some point.
Someone has done that.
But it is...
Definitely a hallmark of paranoia.
Because it's just random people.
jordan holmes
Do you think at the university...
I mean, I know he has tenure, but do you think they could make him take a psychological evaluation?
dan friesen
I think he would fight that pretty hard.
jordan holmes
I think he would too, but...
dan friesen
I think he'd get a lawyer.
I think he'd probably try and...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Oh, you might be right.
dan friesen
That's too hypothetical.
Who cares?
Because he would say they're railroading him or something like that.
jordan holmes
Who knows?
dan friesen
But he is a nut.
jordan holmes
But he would prove his paranoid schizophrenia.
By defending against...
dan friesen
Just by talking.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So he has this idea that he's being gang-stalked or whatever.
He's being spied on in his classes.
He believes Sandy Hook is fake.
There's crisis actors.
He wants to warn the snitches.
He believes that Linda Katehi has a bunch of patents for antennas in order to get harp energy, as explained to him by a fake doctor named Nick Begich, that will create brain-controlled zombies on campus in order to advocate...
For liberal causes.
He is wild.
jordan holmes
He's a comic book character.
dan friesen
He is my favorite crazy.
So, but at the end...
jordan holmes
He's got a lot of plates to juggle at the same time.
dan friesen
At the end of that clip, he gets into, like, these gang stalkers.
All you have to do is, you know, shoot through their programming.
unidentified
Yeah, like, they're not actually stalking you.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You're insane.
dan friesen
Right, but what he's expressing there is, like, you get in their face, you puncture their programming, and then, you know, they just go away.
And the reality is, you probably say a bunch of crazy stuff.
I'm out.
I'm out.
I don't want to talk to you anymore.
You're a lunatic.
We have one more clip.
I should also say, on this day, November 12th, there's a visit from Larry Nichols.
And we have nothing from that, because it is a very boring interview.
Larry Nichols just tries to get money to his PayPal, and on air, on Alex Jones' show, he keeps giving shout-outs to people who have donated to his PayPal.
He's like, oh, what's this?
I got a little thing here from Bridget.
Thanks for the $20, Bridget.
And then he keeps trying to do it, and Alex is like, we can't, we can't do, you just can't name everybody who sends you money.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
At least Alex is doing that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, come on.
What are you going to do?
What are you going to call them something?
Like a group?
What are you going to give them a name?
dan friesen
Come on now.
jordan holmes
Whenever they donate to you?
What are you going to say that they're part of a special group of people?
Come on now.
dan friesen
There's a difference between what we do and what they do.
unidentified
I know.
dan friesen
But be that as it may, the only thing that's interesting that he reveals is that he knows that Ross Perot was an intelligence officer running a game.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Ross Perot.
dan friesen
Ross Perot.
jordan holmes
The Ross Perot I know.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
The one who might say something like, they don't play that harp.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
He made a deal with the Clintons in order to run for president to screw things up for George H.W. Bush.
Right, to split the vote.
jordan holmes
Even though it has been proven that he did not split the...
He didn't take votes away from either candidate.
He took votes away from both candidates.
dan friesen
Right.
But he was an intel guy.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Larry Nichols is...
unidentified
CIA?
dan friesen
Larry Nichols, maybe.
Larry Nichols is phoning it the fuck in on this show so we don't need to listen to him.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But Alex drops this and it's...
Real fun.
This is Alex Jones being what I would describe as two-star fuckery.
Two-star fuckery.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
By the way, I wasn't really told not to say this.
It's always best not to talk about really interesting contacts until you can just try to land them as a guest, but usually people don't want to come on as guests.
I've talked about basically top generals, current, former...
Media people, you name it.
About 95% of the time, they don't want to be talked about on air.
But people need to know how many people are aware of what's going on and tuned into what's happening.
And last night, I got a phone call by who I've got to say is one of the coolest Hollywood actors there is.
And of course, I didn't answer the phone.
I was driving and I called back and they were at an event and then I talked back and forth via text.
dan friesen
Wait, wait.
alex jones
I'm going to try to work and get him on the show.
I'll just say this.
Give us some money, Lebowski!
I mean, you just cannot beat how many great people are waking up to what's happening, and they're classical liberals.
dan friesen
So...
jordan holmes
Wait.
dan friesen
So, do you know who he's talking about?
jordan holmes
Wait.
dan friesen
It's from the Big Lebowski.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Is it...
Wait, it's the guy who has the vaguely...
dan friesen
It's the German nihilists...
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
...are the ones who say that line.
Yeah.
It's Peter Stormare.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, so it's not...
Flea?
No, what's her...
Now I can't remember her name.
dan friesen
Tara Reid?
jordan holmes
No, she's a great musician.
dan friesen
Oh, Amy Mann?
jordan holmes
Amy Mann.
It's not Amy Mann?
unidentified
It's not Amy Mann.
jordan holmes
It's not Amy Mann.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't think Amy Mann has any lines in the movie.
I think she's just there at the diner with them.
jordan holmes
Well, she's the one who loses her toe.
dan friesen
Right.
Yeah.
Peter Stormare is the one who says, give us the money, Lebowski.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Flea is like his cohort, his associate.
I am fascinated that Alex Jones thinks that Peter Stormare is like a giant star.
jordan holmes
He believes in nothing.
dan friesen
He's in a bunch of stuff.
Like, he's a character actor.
He's in a lot of, like, the Coen brothers stuff, especially.
jordan holmes
He was in American Gods.
He was great in American Gods.
dan friesen
I'm not saying he's a bad actor.
jordan holmes
As Chernabog.
dan friesen
I'm not saying that.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
I think what you're saying is he's a bad actor.
dan friesen
No, I'm saying...
jordan holmes
That's what I hear.
dan friesen
I'm saying that in The Big Lebowski, there's a long list of people you'd rather...
Turned out to be classical liberals.
Maybe John Turturro.
Or, I don't know, Bridges.
jordan holmes
Turturro's crazy.
dan friesen
Or Philip Seymour Hoffman.
jordan holmes
He's dead.
dan friesen
Not at this point, though.
2015?
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
dan friesen
Yeah, so it could be Philip Seymour Hoffman.
jordan holmes
It could still be Philip Seymour Hoffman.
dan friesen
He's smacked out of his mind.
He's like, I'm a classical liberal now.
jordan holmes
Probably not John Goodman.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Probably not Tara Reid.
Any of these people are better than Peter Stormare!
jordan holmes
It could be Tara Reade.
dan friesen
Flea is better than...
jordan holmes
Flea is so much better than Peter Stormare!
dan friesen
Yeah, and again, nothing against Peter Stormare, but...
jordan holmes
Again, great actor.
dan friesen
Great!
jordan holmes
But now it turns out that he's an info warrior, so I'm kind of on the fence again.
dan friesen
To be fair, we don't have confirmation of that.
We just have Alex...
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he picked such a weird one to be star-fucking about.
dan friesen
But at the same time, Alex might be misattributing a line.
Like, he might think John Turturro says that in the movie or something like that.
Yeah.
You know, he might not know that no one fucked with the Jesus is the line.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He wouldn't want to say that.
No, no, no, no.
So, yeah.
Peter Stormare, InfoWarrior, theoretically.
jordan holmes
Turturro was in the Transformers movie, so I could see him being an InfoWarrior.
dan friesen
What does that mean?
So was Wahlberg.
You think Wahlberg is?
jordan holmes
Come on!
Wahlberg?
dan friesen
What about John Cena?
Isn't John Cena in the new Transformer?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
I think he is.
jordan holmes
I don't know about John Cena.
dan friesen
John Cena.
Not an info warrior.
jordan holmes
Not an info warrior?
dan friesen
No, sir.
You don't have any intro music like that kind of the horn.
Who cares?
So, we come to the end of our adventure here.
No evolution in terms of Trump.
unidentified
Not at all.
dan friesen
Some mentions of Russia and Putin, though.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Certainly.
But what we have is a string of fucking lunatics.
Just the lunatics are coming aboard.
Now, granted, these are people who have been on the show before, for the most part.
Like, Man Cow and Alex are good friends, and, you know, Hamamoto's been around, and I guess General Stubblebottom, or whatever.
jordan holmes
Stubblebottom.
dan friesen
Whatever.
jordan holmes
Don't get that name wrong, ever.
dan friesen
Stubblebottom is more fun.
jordan holmes
I will hold you to the fire for Stubblebottom.
dan friesen
And the lady who sells...
Laminated cards for $30.
jordan holmes
Rima McIntyre.
dan friesen
That's it.
I mean, all of them have been around, but you're seeing the show is getting crazy.
Yeah, they're fantastic.
jordan holmes
Where's Carrie Cassidy?
Where's my girl?
dan friesen
Oh my god, if she shows up.
There's an escalation of crazy that's going on, and it's super interesting, and I'm enjoying it.
So we'll see what happens next time.
jordan holmes
It's almost like they planned it, where they're like, okay, we'll accept this amount of crazy, and then we'll go up tomorrow, and then we'll go up tomorrow, and then everybody will climax with Hamamoto.
dan friesen
I have something to tell you off air about another guest that shows up in the near future.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
That will be for a future episode.
unidentified
Excellent.
dan friesen
But until then, until we get there, you can check us out at knowledgefight.com.
That's our website.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
You can follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
Correct.
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We're on twitch.tv slash knowledge fight.
Thanks to everybody who's watching.
dan friesen
You can find us every Monday through Thursday night at 8 p.m.
We'll be broadcasting live.
When I say we, it'll be me and a...
Fill in, Jordan, for the time being, because you have too many stand-up comedy shows.
jordan holmes
I'll be here Monday.
dan friesen
Oh, Monday, yeah.
Tuesday through Thursday will be other fill-in guests.
jordan holmes
Until the end of the month and when I will return as much as possible.
dan friesen
TBD on those guests, but I will say this week, Tuesday, we have Joe McMahon will be filling in.
So that'll be interesting to see that swamp boy come in and see what he thinks about us.
jordan holmes
That will be fun.
dan friesen
Also, yeah, I can't remember anything else.
We're on iTunes.
jordan holmes
We are on iTunes.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
You should subscribe, leave a review.
dan friesen
We appreciate it.
jordan holmes
All that stuff.
dan friesen
Also, just fucking spam Media Matters.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure, why not?
dan friesen
Tweet at Media Matters or anybody.
Just get the fucking word out about this.
Help us out.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Please.
jordan holmes
It seems like Media Matters should like us.
dan friesen
They really should.
They should be paying our bills.
jordan holmes
We should be on top of that, right?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
That seems too easy.
dan friesen
Quite frankly, we should have a fellowship.
We should get one of these Ford Foundation grants.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
We're doing the Lord's work.
Let's stop congratulating ourselves.
jordan holmes
Or we should get a fake degree from Sri Lanka.
dan friesen
That'd be great.
jordan holmes
That'd be fun.
Professor of Knowledge Fight Studies.
dan friesen
You know who else has a fake degree?
jordan holmes
Oh, who else has a fake degree?
dan friesen
I'm gonna guess.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's his old ass dude.
jordan holmes
Name four things about him in the way that Alex Jones likes to name.
dan friesen
Gray of Beard.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Is one character trait.
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