Knowledge Fight - #82: Oct. 27-Nov. 9, 2015

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#82: Oct. 27-Nov. 9, 2015

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Knowledge Fight’s #82 dissects Alex Jones’ 2015 broadcasts, revealing his early Putin praise, vaccine misinformation (e.g., blaming SIDS on shots), and climate denial aligning with Russian energy interests. He promoted debunked refugee rape claims (like Sweden’s "Lisa case") and defended Assad via CIA conspiracy theories, while dodging a 2015 Russian intelligence debriefing. By November 9, Jones—funded by GCN—endorsed Trump after Roger Stone’s dubious arguments, suggesting manipulation over genuine conviction. [Automatically generated summary]
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alex jones

infowars 33:28

dan friesen

01:31:52

jordan holmes

48:06

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george noory

01:06

jim marrs

01:05

phyllis schlafly

01:24

roger stone

r 03:51

ted cruz

sen/r 01:20

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max keiser

00:25

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Speaker	Time	Text
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a first-time caller.
		I'm a huge fan.
phyllis schlafly ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're a couple of dudes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is what we do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is there a let me ask you a question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I love Q ⁇ A sessions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Dan.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		If you were a bird, what type of bird would you be?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd probably be like Nelly Furtado.
		She's like a bird.
		She'll only fly away.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think Nelly Furtado is a bird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She's similar to one.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's try the bid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You would be a bird that knows a lot about Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't say him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I follow my nose to propaganda truths.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I would be like the extinct dodo.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what I would be like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't know anything about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan, today we are going to be going over a thrilling episode of my investigation into what happened to Alex in 2015 to get him to sign up with the Donald Trump for President campaign.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I legitimately think that all our questions are answered.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You think it's done?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You think we got it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think we're done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or are you just, are you done?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm done.
		No, I don't think we're done done, let's say.
		But I think all of the questions that I started this investigation with are officially answered.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't have any more questions about why Alex Jones joined Team Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Putin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Big part of it, Vladimir Putin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For those of you who have not been following along to every last 17 installments.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what we thought was going to be maybe two episodes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I thought five.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Where we last left off, Alex Jones was in full support of Putin and Russia mode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Still not all the way in support of Russia.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Quite.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, no, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I meant Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not Russia.
		No, he has not made any real evolution in the past three or four months in 2015 in terms of saying that he likes what he says, but he doesn't trust him.
		He doesn't think he can trust him because he's supported Hillary in the past.
		X, Y, the mob connections thing.
		He's supported assault weapons bans in the past.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can't have that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Guns.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're all these things.
		Alex Jones fully supports Vladimir Putin and Russia and all of their actions in the world, is clearly swayed by Russian propaganda and has not yet supported Donald Trump.
		Right.
		So also where we last left off, David Knight was hosting for about a week.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So really the question is like, when does RT start supporting Trump?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is the question.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty much it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I actually know the answer to that, and we've not gotten there yet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty clear.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The moment that happens, all of a sudden Alex does?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Spoiler alert.
		Alex is a little bit ahead of Russian state meetings.
		Woo!
		As it relates to supporting Donald Trump.
		But I don't want to tip my cards too hard.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because we have our investigation today.
		We'll be covering the dates of October 27th, 2015 to November 9th, 2017.
		Or 2015.
		It's not two years.
		That would be too much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a long investigation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it would involve the future.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But before we get into our investigation today in earnest, I'd like to give a shout-out to a couple new policy wonks.
unidentified		Oh, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's going on out there, Doug?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much for joining up with the team.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Doug.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, I'd like to give a shout-out to Maria.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's going on out there?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Congratulations to you both on becoming policy wonks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thanks very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very exciting stuff.
		If you would like to become a policy wonk, you may do so by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the support the show button, and you'll be a policy wonk.
		Also.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Before we start, you actually don't have to donate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You just click the button and it takes a random amount of money away from you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just like the pants.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You just order them and then whatever shows up shows up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we have a Patriot anthem that we've written about our support the show button.
unidentified		I hate it when jobs go south.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm looking for a button.
unidentified		It won't screw over my family.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So knowledge fight buttons guaranteed to not screw over your family.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not going to make sense to anyone who hasn't listened to a bunch of this show.
		So also, I need to make this announcement.
		We've been flirting and teasing around the idea that there's something big coming.
		Here's what it is.
		We are now going to be broadcasting live every night at 8 p.m. Central.
		Not every night, not the weekends.
		Monday through Thursday at least.
		We will be broadcasting from 8 till question mark, live on the internet, video, audio, all of it.
		You can find our feed at twitch.tv slash knowledge fight.
		We are going to be going over current day Alex Jones, keeping up with what bullshit he's spilling every day.
		We're going to try and make this knowledge fight more robust.
		Take it into the InfoAward arena.
		Jordan, you're staring at me weirdly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What am I supposed to say?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're very excited.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So excited.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're very excited.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's frightening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For years and years, I've wanted to do a, first of all, a live thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've wanted to do a radio show, and eventually we'll work in the ability to take calls and stuff like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But this possibility that we can get it into that sort of thing as opposed to us sitting around for three hours and then releasing it the next day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It really excites me, and it's sort of...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's almost like we have to do it because, like, with the 2015 investigation, you know, fine.
		We release it two days later and yeah, it's still the past.
		But when we do a live or when we do a present day episode, you release it the next day and you're like, well, all of that stuff means nothing anymore.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex has jumped to a whole nother narrative.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or there's another hurricane coming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a lot like how the New York Times and the Washington Post are like, Trump is great now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a fucking lunatic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump is an independent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he's still a Nazi, but he's an independent Nazi.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's also another one of the reasons why I feel very compelled to do this now, because I think we're about to enter a really interesting period that will test Alex Jones' commitment to Donald Trump because of the debt ceiling situation and people saying that Trump is a true independent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's working with the Democrats.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I fucking hate people.
		I hate these people.
		Our media is fucking worthless.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're worthless.
		But the mind-boggling thing is that, like, I kind of get it because it's like, dude, we have a Nazi in the White House.
		We can't just every day be like, guys, Nazi.
		Guys, Nazi.
		He's a Nazi.
		Guys, Nazi.
		Are you paying attention?
		He's a Nazi.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Focus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So they're just trying to get a different narrative.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're just bored.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And much like we end up being a lot of the time with Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why we talk about Project Camelot sometimes.
unidentified		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which I really do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Rather than pretending that Alex is fine today.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex supports weed legalization, so Alex is a true independent now.
		He's definitely not a white supremacist.
		He's working with the Democrats.
		Fuck you, Washington Post.
		New York Times, I expect this bullshit from you.
		You guys are garbage.
		Washington Post, you're supposed to be better than this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Theoretically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We hoped for more.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's all to say that we will be live at twitch.tv.
		Jordan will be joining me on tonight's show when you're listening to this.
		It'll be Monday.
		We will be live at 8 p.m. Central Time.
		But because of your work schedule with the comedy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's 9 Eastern.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		8 a.m. I think people can figure that out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is 7 mountain time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is 6 o'clock Pacific time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm very much underestimating our audience.
unidentified		It's 5 o'clock, the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What time is it in Bucharest?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is.
unidentified		You don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's 4.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		4 p.m. or 4 a.m., whichever you prefer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's simultaneously both.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bucharest.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bucharest is a reality.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Romania is a magical place.
		Exactly.
		So if you'd like to join us there, that would be wonderful.
		Because of your work schedule with the stand-up comedy this month, there will be other folks like a Matt Riggs will be coming in this week and other folks to be determined.
		TBD.
		TBD.
		So I hope you'll enjoy that and come along for the ride.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then, yeah, as my schedule changes, I will be able to drop in more.
		But it still won't be.
		I can't be here every night.
		Otherwise, I'll go broke and die.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And crazy.
		And as functionality increases, we'll be able to take phone calls.
		We'll be able to have you call in instead of having to come all the way over here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All the way over here from where my girlfriend lives up for a year.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Four blocks away.
		But be that as it may.
		Jordan, let's stop fucking around and get to the investigation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what people want to hear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They want to hear some Alex Jones.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if they do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be a fun reaction to a review on iTunes.
		It's like, too much Alex Jones.
		Love the guys talking.
		Hate it when Alex Jones talks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, why is this Alex Jones show?
		Play clips of him.
		So, like I said, we're starting on the 27th, and this is coming off a good almost week of David Knight hosting while Alex is on a vacation or meeting with people.
		It's unclear.
		He claims he was investigating something.
unidentified		Ooh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he never says what, and it's unimportant.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The 27th, Alex Jones shows back up, and he gets on air, and it's one of the least inspired three hours of broadcasting I've ever heard in my life.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's come on vacation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you look at my notes right here, this episode sucks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a great note.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He keeps trying to get to news, but he just is like, I was walking around the mountains, and people love me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was on vacation, and people just kept coming up to me and saying, Alex, you're great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was just basking in the appreciation of the common people, i.e., you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and so I don't have any clips of this episode because it's terrible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the episode ends, or at least a big part of the body of it, is an interview with a guy who's the vitamin lawyer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The vitamin lawyer.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's all about how people are trying to make Alex's supplements illegal and how they're fighting back against that.
		It's a long sales pitch couched as like illegal.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		So we skip everything in the 27th, and we move along to the 28th, which is where we will start in earnest.
		Alex Jones is hot on the PC brigade.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		People really don't like political correctness.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They certainly don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's terrible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so Alex starts off the show in that headspace, and he lists off a number of political correctness grievances that he has.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want you to keep track of how many of these are real.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There basically is no free speech now on these campuses, and the young people are competing with each other to see who can destroy more language, who can call people out, who can dominate and control.
		It's a bunch of bullies.
		Ignorant bullies of every race, color, and creed who have joined this political correctness cult.
		And now it's going into overdressed ignorance.
		You're not going to dress as Caitlin Jenner.
		Well, that said I am.
		You are not going to use brown paper bags.
		Yes, I am.
		You are not going to use the word mother or father.
		Yes, I am.
		You are not going to defend yourself.
		Yes, I am.
		You are not going to criticize Obamacare.
		We'll call you racist.
		Well, you know what?
		Go ahead.
		I don't care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		None of those are real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		None of those are real things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When you hear people on campuses are competing to see who can destroy more of the language, what do you see?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I remember when I was in college, I destroyed gerunds.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No one was able to use any ing verbs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good call.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm jumping.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, you're not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'll be goddamned.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You say I jump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have jumped.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Use the passive voice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How dare you use active?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I am in the process of a jump.
		Make it a noun, goddammit.
		That's what I did in college, you know, but I mean, maybe, I don't know.
		I was pretty successful at it, I'll say.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was a big fan of applying all Scrabble rules.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, you can't any proper nouns whatsoever.
unidentified		I love it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't want anybody to know what they are talking about at any given point in time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No capitalizations in the middle of sentences, you sons of bitches.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How dare you?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is stupid.
		But I do.
		I meant Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Excellent summary.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do love the colours.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I see a debate team.
		I see a debate team, like a debate competition where you got three people on either side.
		One of them walks up to a podium and is like, here is why we shouldn't use the word mother because it's dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Counterpoint.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What do you got?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Mothers are.
		He's totally right.
		So I love.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think we should use the word mother, and I will raise you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We shouldn't use the word mom either.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or boy and girl.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, absolutely not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I love how you're going to be able to do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't still use the plural, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Boys and girls.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Moms?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally fine.
		I am so fascinated by this idea.
		He's like, you telling me can't dress like Caitlin Jenner?
		I'm going to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, why?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So like in a dress?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		I think he's like, I can't.
		People are saying that you can't mock trans people through costuming.
		And he's like, I will.
		Because we're right around Halloween at this point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why that was one of his examples.
		And I cut out a ton of it, but he's on a real tear about misunderstanding why ethnic or minority group costumes are inappropriate.
		He's like, I like taco parties.
		Hey, why can't I have a taco party?
		I like to have a, I like fajitas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Al Jolson was a great entertainer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's more or less that.
		He's saying, like, why are you saying I can't dress up like something?
		It's like, no, just don't turn a group into a costume.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you saying I can't criticize Obamacare?
		Otherwise, I'm racist?
		No, we're not saying that.
		We're saying you're racist, and also you are criticizing Obamacare.
		Totally separate from that.
		Very different situation.
		Those are not related at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, no one has ever said you can't use a brown bag.
		They're just saying that the, you know, it was just a guy in Seattle who made a memo about the terminology.
		Brown bag has a racially charged history, and that's true.
		You can still use brown bags if you want.
unidentified		Go ahead.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No one gives a shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not the brown bags themselves that are the problem, Alex.
		No, no.
		You can't be angry at a bag.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, we can't spend this much time on one clip.
		We got so much to get through.
		Okay, I'm so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you telling me I can't defend myself?
unidentified		I will.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm shutting down your language.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you telling me?
		Let me tell you something.
		Now it's a competition.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		This was the wrong approach.
		Hey, Jordan, why don't you vamp more?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'll see you in hell before I vamp.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next clip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, Alex Jones has found out that the Southern Poverty Law Center has put out a new article, and he has some thoughts about it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They have a new giant article I'm going to cover in the next segment out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Doubt it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		From the Southern Poverty Law Center demonizing the conspiracy myths and bemoaning how dangerous they are and how they're taking over.
		Why the imaginary situation of Agenda 21?
		It's called Margins to the Mainstream.
		The imaginary paradigm that there is an Agenda 21 to restrict resources.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the Southern Poverty Law Center put out a long article debunking a ton of Alex Jones' narratives, but not specifically targeted at Alex Jones.
		There are just these are these right-wing narratives that are being pushed.
		Here is the truth about them.
		And Alex is furious about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He already hates the SPLC.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And now it's just like, fucking fuck you guys.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love the conservative hate towards the SPLC because it's always like, hey, fuck you.
		And they're like, we support poor people and free speech.
		And they're like, the fuck you do, PC Police.
		And they're like, no, we just like the ACLU were very fuck the ACLU.
		Like, no, the ACLU is great.
		They do a lot of good work and they represent a lot of people who are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Creeping communism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'll see you in hell.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so, I mean, we don't need to get too much more in-depth about that.
		It's just, you know, like, he's starting to see people pay attention to the narratives that he puts out and push back against them.
		I think he's starting to get a little bit scared of his own position in the world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that will because it is nonsense, and so is he.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he's aware of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the more people pay attention to him, I wish we were doing this show back then because I think that we could have pointed out much closer to real time how much he is just supporting Russia.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't think people did a good job of expressing that back then.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think people were.
		You were telling me this earlier, which is like if it was something where it was much more prevalent on one broadcast, people would be more likely to pay attention to it.
		But because it's kind of just a small part of every broadcast, it's easy to kind of skip over it.
		And he says so many other crazy things.
		You're like, what the fuck is he talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And because a lot of the things that he's praising Putin for are really adjacent to things that he, I mean, he does believe.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He just thinks that he's influencing Russia.
		Yes.
		That's the marks belief.
		You know, when you're getting tricked, that's how you rationalize you're being duped.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You think, like, oh, no, I'm winning this three-card Monty game.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I won the first two rounds.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm fucking fleecing this guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then you turn around and he disappears.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's too easy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's too easy.
		That's exactly what's going on to Alex.
		And it's so fucking clear.
		I can't wait.
		There's a couple clips that I have that I'm going to play that are fucking damning in this episode.
		But before we get to them, here is a Mike Down clip out of the gate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Because this clip is fucked up.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is Alex.
		It's what the clips dude, I'll explain why I think a piece of it is funny, but the rest of it is not funny at all.
		And it's Alex proving he's kind of a dick.
		And the story he tells might not be true, also.
		That's possible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if the story is true, he is a fucking dick and he needs to mind his own goddamn business.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Every few days I hear some parent.
		I was at the gym yesterday and I heard somebody talking, going, oh, it's terrible.
		Oh, my gosh.
		And then the lady's friend said, what happened?
		Oh, such and such's baby just died.
		It was just a year old and it died.
		Yeah, she's written a letter to everybody about it.
		It died of SIDS.
		And I couldn't help it.
		I said, oh, you know, they're not supposed to really die for a few months.
		And I said, that didn't exist till the 80s.
		They used to take people's kids.
		They used to take people's other children when they had a sudden infant death.
		They'd claim it was shaken baby.
		Remember that?
		They go, yeah.
		You don't hear about that anymore.
		First, I get them to admit to something that they know.
		I go, yeah, you ought to ask them if they went in for their second round of shots then.
		Because you know, Sids is closely associated in Australian government studies and others with the sudden death.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're a fucking one woman goes, Yeah, I think I've heard about that.
		I said, Yeah, I don't mean to get in your business.
		You're just talking about a dead baby.
		You might want to look into it for yourself and warn some people.
		And all the time I hear people talking about, yeah, I talked to Bob, and he hadn't been to work in about a week.
		Yeah, their baby's in the hospital.
		And I'll say, how old's that baby?
		Is it a toddler?
		Yeah, 18 months?
		Well, yeah, they did say that.
		Well, how do you know that?
		And I said, how do I know that?
		I said, you better look into it.
		Most autistic children are boys, about 80%, roughly 81%, depending on the country.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What does that mean?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they almost always go into the autistic decline at 18 months.
		After they don't talk for a few days and lay in bed, the hospital, if you take them right back, they'll say, oh, that's just a normal side effect.
		Just keep them in bed.
		They're going to be fine while that brain swells up and it bleeds in there.
		Getting that lobotomy feels real good.
		And we've had the nurses on.
		It's come out in the news as well that they get those ERs ready with those premies, seven months, eight months, six months.
		They're fine.
		They're breathing.
		They're getting better.
		And after they're there a couple days, two days, the doctor comes in and says, it's time to give them the inoculations, full regimen, seven shots.
		And the nurses beg, they say, doctor, go back to the bioethics board.
		They're going to stop breathing.
		Some are going to die.
		And the doctor says, you know, policy.
		And they give them their shots.
		Some die on the spot.
		Others go on the respirators.
		But a lot of them can't make it because we're a loving country.
unidentified		We're a good country.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's insanely fucked up.
		Like, he's relishing.
		It sounds like he's jacking it, quite frankly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would you go up to a lady whose baby just died?
		And we're like, hey, I know your baby just died, but let me tell you why.
		And also, I don't care about your baby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just want to push my agenda.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is just a useful situation for me to lie to you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, here's why.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is a fucking psychopath.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is.
		And I want to discuss some of these lies here in a second.
		But first, here's the part that I think is kind of funny.
		It creates in my head the idea for a cartoon where it's just Alex Jones wandering around his life, butting into people's business.
		Like, you guys talk about a baby?
		There is an image in my head.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my baby's in the hospital.
		Is it 18 months?
		Exactly.
		I mean, something like that.
		Vaccines!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nosy-ass anti-vaccine cartoon Alex Jones is kind of funny to me, but in the real world, it's not so funny.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So a couple things that we need to understand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love the idea that any time a baby goes into the hospital, he thinks it's vaccines.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not like well babies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you not know that like babies are like, okay, fucking fine, Alex.
		Let's go back to when babies were stolen by fucking coyotes.
		Let's move on.
		I'm done with this shit.
		If you hate hospitals and medical science so much, just fucking don't go and shut the fuck up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a couple of the things that we should discuss, though, just in terms of his bullshit narratives.
		The idea that there are studies that have shown that SIDS is attached or in any way related to vaccination.
		There are a couple studies, but they have been thoroughly debunked in terms of junk science.
		They didn't follow the scientific method at all.
		They drew conclusions that weren't there to be concluded.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's not even a conspiracy theory.
		The vaccines cause autism is at least a thing.
		The vaccines kill your kid is dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, now that's...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And no doctor would give a premature baby seven shots.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that gets to another interesting issue that a lot of people believe anti-vaccination things because of court cases that have been won by people whose children have been hurt by vaccines.
		And it is that there's this thing called the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.
		And there's a vaccine court that was specially set up.
		And this court is rigged in favor of people making complaints intentionally so because the government wants to pay people.
		Not to silence them, but they want to make it easier for them to get compensation for being hurt by vaccines.
		Because there is negative side effects that can happen sometimes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that's probably good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This court doesn't necessarily need you to prove scientifically that the vaccine caused your baby to be hurt or to die.
		They just need to have a preponderance of the evidence, like it's a civil court.
		And so there have been court cases that have come through the NVICP, and people have taken it to mean science has proven this thing, when in fact it's just something that was set up in order to compensate people for their loss without proving scientifically anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, this is something that's super interesting to me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who pays?
unidentified		Does the government?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The government.
		They set it up specifically that way.
		Here, I will read this here.
		So, Alex, one of his big complaints is that whenever he talks about vaccines hurting you and killing babies, he's like, read the insert.
		Read the insert.
		It says it can cause diabetes or whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because there are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Possible side effects.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, there's that on an aspirin bottle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you take too much aspirin, you will die.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there is a no-fault situation for vaccines in terms of like drug companies won't be held responsible for vaccines that hurt people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's done also intentionally by the government.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'll read this.
		This is from an article on scienceblogs.com that I found very fascinating.
		This is the history of that in the early 1980s in the wake of reports publicized by a news report and later a book by Harris Coulter and Barbara Lowe Fisher called DPT a shot in the dark that the whole raptor names.
		That the whole cell DPT vaccine was linked to encephalitis and brain damage, a flood of product liability lawsuits was on the verge of bringing the U.S. vaccine program to its knees.
		Later studies exonerated the DPT, especially a large case control study.
		But those studies did not come out until the 1990s.
		Even though existing evidence at the time did not clearly support a link, it did not clearly rule one out.
		As a result, vaccine manufacturers had increasingly difficulty obtaining liability insurance.
		More and more of them stopped making wholesale DPT vaccines.
		Congress ultimately was forced to intervene and pass the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, which established a federal no-fault system to compensate victims of injury caused by mandated vaccines.
		So, there's a situation where people...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a good thing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a situation where people could not prove nor disprove a link between a vaccine and medical conditions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, but insurance companies just didn't want to fucking wade into that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even though it's a medical necessity.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When 10 years later, they prove that there wasn't a connection.
unidentified		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the intervening 10 years, you destroy companies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You destroy the progress of science, and tons of people could end up getting...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you saying panicked dumb people might have taken down an industry?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who would have guessed?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, or they didn't, but they almost did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the government had to step in to create these courts and to create this no-fault system.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No regulations.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So intentionally, they set it up so the people who make the vaccine wouldn't be punished off chance of these panics that they might not be guilty of, and the government would pay everything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it is actually a good system.
unidentified		It is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a very good system that we have.
		But people use things that are found in these courts that are not scientific.
		They are just civil cases, basically.
		And they treat them as if they are science.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like the one that Coretta Scott King won against America for murdering Martin Luther King Jr.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So the other thing.
		Anyway, the other big lie that Alex uses there is he says that 80 plus percent of autistic people are male.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is bananas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's actually, this is also super interesting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you look into it, the reason that there is a belief that most autistic people are male.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's sociological.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just the way that we classify boys and girls differently.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a two-pronged thing.
		That's a piece of one of them.
		One of the issues is in the early days of autism studies, almost everybody they studied were dudes.
		They were all males.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's how most scientific studies work now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But especially in the case of autism.
		And one of the reasons for that is because the way males express autism is incredibly obvious.
		The signs and symptoms are much more clear.
		There have been people who have theorized.
		This isn't proven or anything, but one of the leading theories about that is that women have, whether it's sociologically ingrained or it's innate, have a higher ability to mimic social cues.
		And they are able to know instinctively what's appropriate and not scream out and shit like that.
		Beyond that, studies have started to be done that are indicating that stuff like anorexia, nervosa, self-harm, social anxiety, these more feminine-related conditions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hysteria.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, all those things males can have, but there statistically is a higher incidence in women.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		People are starting to understand and look at it from the perspective of those are female autistic symptoms.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They may not be neurotypical.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a great book you should read called Neurotribes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's about the history of autism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would recommend that for everybody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, beyond that, those are some of the reasons Alex is lying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So many reasons.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's full of shit, but also, more importantly, stay out of people's fucking business.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Especially if their baby just died.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you're at the gym.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just do your fucking lifts and get out of there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that is Alex Jones' take on science.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is that it's not real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he has no understanding of some of the nuances of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But now, let's get to him discussing his science.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In terms of the products that he sells.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		While we're figuring out what's going on with Leanne and some other issues, I want to air a compendium of special reports that they did for the nightly news.
		Her and her good friend, Ms. Robin.
		Because it was their idea to try to check out the claims that we were making and what listeners were saying about the survival shield combined, of course, with the liver shield.
		And what that would do, they did the six-day cleanse on top of juicing as well.
		And the six-day cleanse is up on InfowarsLife.com.
		And you take the oxypowder, four to six tablets a day, just high-level oxygen that releases in your intestines.
		Don't take it from your intestines.
		You take the liver shield, it's a proprietary product, in water four times a day with apple cider vinegar.
		And then on the sixth day, you drink seven ounces of virgin olive oil and you go to bed at night and lay on the side that your liver's on, your right side, for at least an hour.
		And then most people in the morning have spectacular results when green and black stones come out.
unidentified		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I say most people, like 98% we told you have results within two days.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Green and black stones come out?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As long as you drink six to seven ounces of olive oil and lay on your right side for an hour.
unidentified		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you pray to the witch god.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's no good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then, of course, on the seventh day, you rest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, indeed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the balls come out of you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, if you are on Lumikdo, you should take four to six tablets a day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As do I. Also, talk to your doctor before you do this shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Talk to your doctor anytime green and black stones come out of you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, the doctors want those to stay inside you.
		That's the thing.
		You don't talk to them about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't want to tell them?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, they're a bunch of snitches.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What I would suggest you do, put them in a bag, bring them to your doctor, and just put them right on his desk and be like, that's good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then flip them off.
		So he said at the beginning there, he's like, wow, we're trying to figure out what's going on with Leanne.
		Leanne McAdoo has been sent to St. Louis, where there is a fire burning underground near nuclear waste or something along those lines.
		Wonderful.
		They can never get her Skype going.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that true?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I vaguely recall this story.
		I'm not sure if their angle on it is correct.
		I don't care.
		Because they can never get her Skype connection together.
		So they just keep being like, well, we'll go to Leanne, and then they can't get her.
		So Alex says over and over again, I didn't tell her to go there.
		She went on her own.
		As if he thinks she's going to die.
		He's trying to clear himself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, wait, what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just over and over again.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Leanne's gone rogue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She's just going to St. Louis.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Every single time he brings it up, he points out, this wasn't my idea.
		Because he thinks shit's going to go bad.
		It doesn't.
		And they can never get her on camera.
unidentified		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So they have to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She's actually just in a bar across the street.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Might as well have been.
		So they move on to another interview.
		On this day, we have a visit from George Norrie of Coast to Coast AM.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As we know, Coast to Coast AM is a show that's on overnight from, I think it's like midnight to 3 a.m. or something like that.
		And they talk about ghosts.
		They talk about aliens.
		They talk about ancient aliens.
unidentified		Love it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They talk about all that stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Pyramids full of grain.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably talk about Tulpas, talk about golems, probably talk about gins, I imagine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're just going through all Middle Eastern situations, huh?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Talk about the tarot, I assume.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, all right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So George Norrie is a guest on this episode, and the reason he's on might surprise you.
george noory ▲ ● ▼		We have forgotten morality and what this country was all about.
		And I think it's just crazy, Alex.
		We've got to get back to our grassroots again as a nation and do things that are just common sense right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		White people.
george noory ▲ ● ▼		I mean, which we're not doing anymore.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You want white people?
george noory ▲ ● ▼		The presidential push to try to get me to run for office.
		You are absolutely right.
		I am non-partisan.
		I am not a Republican.
		I'm not a Democrat.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
george noory ▲ ● ▼		I'm probably more a libertarian, but I'm generally independent.
		However, if you're going to run for president in the United States, you really have to be a Democrat or Republican on those parties.
		Look, they're about the same, right?
		But you have to do that because that's what garners the biggest votes.
		There has been a group that has asked me and wanted me to push for this to run.
		I did consider that.
		It's getting late.
		The clock is sticking to the channel.
		We'd have to take a leave from coast to coast, and I'm not sure I want to do that.
		But I probably could get the nomination, the Democratic nomination.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, I'm sorry.
george noory ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to run off against Mr. Carson or Mr. Trump or maybe even Jeb Bush.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, George, you've got the listeners, tens of millions of them that would actually come out and support you.
		You're a smart guy.
		You destroy them in the debates.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not a chance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Tens of millions of listeners for Coast to Coast AM.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he does have a sizable listener base, but we went over the statistics on the Nielsen ratings of radio shows, and he doesn't have nearly that many listeners.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is going to easily win the Democratic nomination, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Easily.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even though he is not a Republican or a Democrat.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's mainly a libertarian, and we all know how Democrats love those.
unidentified		Love them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Love libertarians.
		But he's mostly an independent.
		He's non-partisan.
		He doesn't believe in reality, but he is non-partisan.
		Reality is a partisan issue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here are a couple things that he believes that would fly super well with the Democratic Party nomination.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's super into Blue Lives Matter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Makes perfect sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is really into anti-vaccination stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody loves that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The left is thrilled with those positions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's my favorite thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You hear me yelling all the time about how we need fewer vaccinations.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And less oversight of police.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Listen, guys, I'm going to announce my candidacy for president right now in 2020.
		My main platform will be bring back polio.
		That will be my main platform.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Make polio widespread again.
		Can't make that an acronym that you can pronounce.
		Yep.
		But so George Norrie is on.
		He expounds.
		He expands some of his positions.
		One of them is get rid of the Fed, get rid of income taxes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Perfect.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just make it a sales tax.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No fire stations.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very libertarian.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If your house burns down, you better have a tip on hand for the fire department.
		Otherwise, you're fucked.
		Do you remember, Dan, that there was a time in our history where there were actually competing fire departments in the same city that would cause you to allow your house to burn down?
		You had to.
		And if your neighbor bought fire insurance, they would protect your neighbor's house from the fire of your house.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fucking insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Competition.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, free market.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Free market prosperity, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's one of the things that's so fascinating about libertarianism as a whole is like the elements of it we've done before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All of the elements.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've done this.
		You're wrong.
		Not because we can prove it scientifically or mathematically.
		We can just go back 50 years and be like, see, this is what happens when the dumb shit you believe is actually practiced.
		And they're like, no, no, no, we'll figure it out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've added technology.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now we got it this time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, a huge piece of George Norrie's campaign is about EMP defense.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a Democratic position.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He spends an inordinate amount of time talking about how vulnerable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He just watched Oceans 11 and he's like, that's how EMPs work, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So George Norrie blows hard for a bit, and then Alex gets to another interview that he has to end out the show, which is our friend Max Kaiser, who we know is the weirdo economist who has created Max Coins.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has his own cryptocurrency.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How's it doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's how it's doing.
max keiser ▲ ● ▼		And to help people, Alex, I am giving away free money today at startcoin.com.
max keiser ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of fact, if you go to startcoin.com, I'm giving away free money to your listeners all day as a way to introduce them to cryptocurrencies, which I think is the only way to preserve your wealth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's how it's going.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		He's giving away free.
		He's giving afraid.
		He's giving away bucks that aren't even good at Disney.
		Like, he's giving away magic money.
		Yeah.
		It's very easy to give away worthless things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And let's be clear.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm giving away this air.
		Everybody that goes to knowledgefight.com is allowed to have as much air as they want.
		I just want to get you guys into breathing.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to make sure you're aware of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's big of you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, of course, after the first month, I will be charging you a stipend.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There will be a small vig.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There will be a small vig on the air you breathe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, that's pathetic.
		That's making it so obvious that this is not an appearance where we're going to be talking about anything substantial.
		This is fucking get on my currency.
		Right.
		Also, there's a ton of buy gold shit.
		So that like is the only way to preserve your wealth is nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Buy gold.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trying to hawk gold also.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Buy gold and then transfer it into Maxbucks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Also, all these people who come on and say to buy gold sell gold.
		Like Peter Schiff sells gold.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's odd.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't think of a reason for that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		GCN, Ted Anderson, the guy who syndicates Alex Jones' show, sells gold.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, all of this shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, the guy from Hair Club for Men came on and sold.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's not just the guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a member.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a member.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not just the owner.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm a member.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a member.
		These guys aren't just selling gold.
		They're made of gold.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're Midas.
		So that's the end of October 28th, and we move along to October 29th.
		Something interesting happened on the eve of October 28th.
		And that is that CNBC had a presidential debate.
		They had a Republican primary debate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if you recall, it didn't go well.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was a disaster.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was a huge disaster.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was a shit show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so here's Alex Jones' take on it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There are moments in television, moments in media, where the full import of how big something is isn't understood for weeks, months, even years.
		But what we witnessed last night with the CNBC Republican debate moderated by CNBC is evident pretty much instantly.
		This is a Polaroid moment where you don't have to wait more than just a few seconds after the debate.
		I was sitting there watching it with family and children and even let my children stay up late to finish it and see the aftermath.
		And I asked my children, my 13-year-old son, my 11-year-old daughter, my 7-year-old daughter, while we were watching the coverage that InfoWars was engaged in with David Niger Kari Jackson.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't do that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And of course, Joe Biggs and others.
		And my children said the reporters, that's what they called them, were reporters.
		They're really just pundits.
		We're trying to bully and trying to attack and trying to make the Republican candidates look stupid, but they looked stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They did.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's what Rex Jones, my 13-year-old, had to say about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In-depth analysis from a 13-year-old.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They made them look stupid, but they're stupid.
		Good work.
		Good work, Rex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Go do your multiplication homework.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no kidding.
		I let my seven-year-old daughter watch one of the most homophobic, racist things that I could possibly allow her to watch.
		A bunch of faces fucking fighting to hate people more.
		That's what that debate was.
		But it was a contest to see who could destroy more language.
		That's what it was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if you remember, those kids have been on InfoWars before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like you're way past that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're making it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In terms of bad parenting.
		You're right.
		But Alex has more to say about this debate.
		That's not his.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, is he going to get into the substance of what they talked about?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's really going to get into the issues that they communicated.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's going to tell you what his three-year-old kid thought.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that's not what he does.
		He wants to critique the media and how they behaved.
		And you can really tell there's something he wants to say but can't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They wanted to demonize the Republican Party.
		They wanted to demonize the candidates that weren't establishment.
		They would give softball questions to the Republicans that they know are part of the team while viciously attacking people they don't control.
		It was crystal clear that this was a rigged attempt to derail patriot candidates, and instead it was a fiasco.
		It was a disaster.
		It was a train wreck.
		It was an implosion for the sycophantic media whores.
		This weekend, I was hiking in the mountains of South West Texas, and it really hit me that we've had so many debates, so many calls, so many guests talk about what should we call the Decepticon mainstream, sewage stream, collaborator, prestitute, corporate media.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just throwing out a bunch of options.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it hit me.
		Straight talk is the answer.
		Straight labels that actually fit what something is is what we should go with.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fair.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You don't call butter concentrated milk fat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You call it butter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How about another example?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You don't call chocolate recondensed sugared cocoa powder.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You call it chocolate.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got a third?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You don't call a pile of horse manure on the side of the road some scientific name for the leavings of the equine species.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You call it what it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Way to bring it home.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They are the enemy.
		Mainstream media is the enemy.
		They are the deceivers.
		They are the enemy propaganda arms of the major corporations that brag they've conquered this country.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they are collaborators.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not entirely wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's spiritually wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not entirely, you know, they are just giant corporate entities, and the corporations have pretty much said, we own you.
		So it's not terrible.
		I mean, what his analysis of the debate is fucking stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can be right for the wrong reason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that might be what you're saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Pretty much every time we agree, it's like, Alex, you're an idiot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I agree with what you say, but what you mean is dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't agree with what you mean, but your literal point is correct.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in a small way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I think he's pissed off.
		He can't say Juden Press.
		I really think that he's like, that's where he wants to go with this.
		He wants to go that far, and he can't.
		The other thing that's interesting to take away from that is that is a talking point that Donald Trump will pick up.
		Oh, yeah.
		So that's an interesting little parallel there.
		I'm going to skip this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember?
		I will say the one thing that he is absolutely right about is that during the campaign, the media failed us on a level I don't think I've ever seen before.
		Big time.
		Like, they are a big, big reason.
		All the blame we want to put on the fucking Nazis.
		The media wanting a story, wanting an interesting campaign, wanting that horse race is a big problem and one of the big reasons that Trump was elected.
		If they were capable of just asking Trump questions, like direct, like even now, if somebody just asked Trump what something means, like, Trump, what does DACA stand for?
unidentified		And he'd be like, ooh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that the other name for North Korea?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know.
		Of course he doesn't know.
		He doesn't know fucking anything.
		And if you would have just, if you'd have just stopped talking about how he sounded and started talking about how he knows fucking nothing, maybe we would have had a better shot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that's not what Alex is saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, of course not.
		Of course not.
		He can't process that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, just because.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It has to be that they're lying about him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just because we both have critiques of the media doesn't mean we agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, that's sort of the place that...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, we both critique corporations, but we definitely don't agree on why.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Certainly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just Alex saying that he got his dad to retire because of Obamacare and now he works for him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now Alex Jones at Infowars has a CIA dentist working for him.
unidentified		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can always trust a CIA dentist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, Alex Jones contradicts himself within the span of a couple seconds.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wonderful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's fascinating.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because I don't have to sit here and tell my reporters what to report, what to write, what to say, because I just hire people that are already informed and love freedom.
		And they're just going to go out and report on what's happening.
		And that's what's so exciting about not having talking points.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wait for it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I do stuff like, hey, they're coming after the guns.
		Let's really stay focused on that this week.
		Or, hey, TPP, they're ramming it through.
		Let's try to make that a big focus.
unidentified		Talking points.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's not in the news right now that they're continuing to put veterans on don't treat death list.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go undercover and expose it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Talking points.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in that pause.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All talking points.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In that pause that he had, he made a weird face.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was like, oops.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's wonderful that we don't use talking points.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Admittedly, we use talking points.
unidentified		Admittedly, they're not exactly what to cover.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		They just love.
		I love that he's hiring people that love freedom.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, I would hate it if he was hiring people who are fucking fascists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It would be crazy if he was hiring people who advocated harshly against any kind of oversight of the government.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It would be terrible.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Terrible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It would be terrible if he hired those people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This investigation is supposed to be about how Alex Jones ended up where he is in the presidential campaign.
		And as such, we need to cover some of the stuff that I don't want to cover about this debate.
		Because these clips, I don't like to listen to Ted Cruz talk.
		Steal yourself.
		Because we're going to have to listen to Ted Cruz talk a little bit in this next clip.
		And we can critique it on the other side.
		But it's interesting to hear how Alex treats Ted Cruz at this point in history.
		He has a boner for him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go to your calls, and let's start playing some of these clips.
		This is Ted Cruz, blast corrupt mainstream media.
		He kind of set the tone, and he pointed out he is a leader.
		I have to admit, he's done some stuff I don't like, but going after the abortions, going after the open borders, going after the gun grabbers, going after Obamacare, going after not supporting ISIS, that he still supports going after Assad.
		That's the problem.
		I got to say, Ted Cruz.
		I know Rand Paul, so I'll say he's better, but Ted Cruz, despite problems, really has delivered.
		Let's go ahead and go to this Ted Cruz Club.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here it is.
unidentified		Senator Cruz, Congressional Republicans, Democrats, and the White House are about to strike a compromise that would raise the debt limit, prevent a government shutdown, and calm financial markets that fear of another Washington-created crisis is on the way.
unidentified		Does your opposition to it show that you're not the kind of problem solver American voters want?
ted cruz ▲ ● ▼		You know, let me say something at the outset.
ted cruz ▲ ● ▼		The questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrate why the American people don't trust the media.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Kill me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll get back into this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fucking kill me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We'll get back to this clip in a second, but let's really, I don't want to answer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I had a big part in forcing a government shutdown.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was kind of one of my big things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of the things that I really don't want to address that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One of the big things I did was lower the credit rating of the entire country.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, through my petulance and hatred of a black president.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know how everybody's complaining about the national debt.
		I have ensured that it will be higher.
		Now, that is me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In fairness to Ted Cruz, in ultimate fairness, that question was phrased a little aggressively.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was a dumb question.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't get me wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The point of the question is valid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's worded a little bit like, hey, I'm not commercial here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The government is functioning.
		Are you trying – while the government is functioning, people like it.
		You don't want the government to function.
		Are you an asshole?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You seem to want to grandstand in such a way that will make the government not work.
		Does that preclude you from being a leader?
		And because he can't answer that question, he has to grandstand and flip it on the media.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's clearly what he's doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God, transparently.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he gets a giant applause break because everybody at the Republican debate is fucking stupid.
ted cruz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now let's jump back.
unidentified		That's right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Get him back.
ted cruz ▲ ● ▼		This is not a cage match.
		And you look at the questions.
		Donald Trump, are you a comic book villain?
		Ben Carson, can you do math?
		John Kasich, will you insult two people over here?
		Marco Rubio, why don't you resign?
		Jeb Bush, why have your numbers fallen?
unidentified		How about talking about the substantive issues people care about?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He is the best on the street I've ever seen.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He is the best.
unidentified		This is what he is.
ted cruz ▲ ● ▼		Carl, I'm not finished yet.
ted cruz ▲ ● ▼		The contrast with the Democratic debate, where every fawning question from the media was, which of you is more handsome and wise?
unidentified		So this is the debt limit, which you have 30 seconds left to answer, should you choose to do so.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Look at that arrogant little.
ted cruz ▲ ● ▼		Let me be clear.
		The men and women on this stage have more ideas, more experience, more common sense.
		Every participant in the Democratic debate has any idea.
		That debate reflected a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely true.
ted cruz ▲ ● ▼		And nobody watching at home believes that any of the moderators has any intention of voting in a Republican primary.
		The questions that are being asked shouldn't be trying to get people to tear into each other.
		It should be: what are your substantive solutions to people?
unidentified		I asked you about the dead limit and I got no answer.
unidentified		Okay, hold on, you didn't ask a real question, punk.
ted cruz ▲ ● ▼		I'm happy to answer the question.
		Let me tell you how the question was.
		Let me tell you how that goes.
		Let me tell you how the question is.
max keiser ▲ ● ▼		Senator Paul, I've got a question for you.
ted cruz ▲ ● ▼		So you don't actually want to hear the answer, John?
		Senator Paul.
		You don't want to hear the answer.
		You don't want to hear the insult.
max keiser ▲ ● ▼		You used your time on something else.
ted cruz ▲ ● ▼		Senator Paul, you're not interested in an answer.
unidentified		John, Senator Paul, the budget deal crafted by speakers.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's enough of that.
		I skipped the break.
		This is so important.
		This is how they tried to control the narrative.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that's how people act like babies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's how he tried to control the narrative.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He got asked a question, and then instead, he controlled the narrative.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what he did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The moderator asked a bad question, but it was still like, hey, there was some talk about the debt ceiling.
		And he was like, the media's bad.
		And you're like, okay.
		And then your time is up here because you're a fucking idiot.
		You're a child.
		So you're going in time out.
		That's what he did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a situation where, sure, the question might have been framed poorly or presented poorly, but it gives an opportunity for you to rise above it and defend yourself about this issue that clearly a lot of people think you're a fucking dick about.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so he refuses to do that.
		Instead, he plays victim.
		And then even to the end, when the time is up, he plays victim, saying, oh, I can answer it because he knows that they're not going to give him more time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He gets to play the victim of like, oh, look, I had a great answer about that, but you guys are being fucking dicks.
		You don't want to talk about substance.
		I just wasted a minute yelling about how everyone on this stage is a victim because we're all super rich white dudes except Ben Carson.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who's a super rich black dude?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Carly Fiorino was there, I think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who's even more super rich than the rest of us?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But she's a white lady.
		So you, you know, yeah, well, we don't need to worry about that.
		We got our demographics.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You guys just want us to insult each other.
		You don't want to ask us substantive questions.
		Admittedly, the question you just asked me was great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was substantive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But I am not going to answer it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am instead going to whine like a tiny fuck Ted Cruz.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ted Cruz is the nails on a chalkboard as a human being.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There legitimately should not be live audiences, I think.
		Absolutely not.
		These debates.
		Like, that's a mess.
		Because you can just pander and do shit like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And even then, if you have time, if you're trying to answer a question, why are you stopping for applause breaks?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're not using your time properly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but also, you missed it because you were screaming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm very angry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But Alex in the middle of that says, Ted Cruz is the best on his feet of any statesman I've ever seen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God, kill us all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Consider that within six months, he will join in on the Ted Cruz's dad killed JFK.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's just a fact.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He will go that far that quickly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		That's amazing to me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't amaze me at all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When you don't believe in anything, you don't have to worry about whether or not your positions are consistent because you don't have any positions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we have one more clip that we got to get through of this debate shit.
		And it starts with Alex screaming about Melissa Harris Perry because there's that part.
		But she had also, in as I recall, the setting was confirmation hearings for Paul Ryan to be the speaker.
		And Alex is spinning a real fun yarn about that because he is taking credit for Boehner stepping down.
		All of us Tea Party Liberty people, we forced him out, and we're going to get one of our guys in there because we have momentum.
		Now, Paul Ryan is there.
		He gets in and he's like, no, this doesn't mean that we didn't put him in, but he's on a short leash.
		Yeah.
		Ah, you idiot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so clear that, like, oh, no, Boehner wanted to step down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He wanted to get out of there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Boehner was sick of that shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's very smart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he was very smart.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He clearly had a million-dollar offer on the table.
		Yeah.
		So Alex is really.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I could get shit from lunatics all day and get shit from other sane people all day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or I could leave and get millions of dollars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And no one will care what I'm doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And not have to worry about anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would take that option.
		Of course.
		In the confirmation hearings, they're talking about Paul Ryan, and someone says that he's hardworking.
		And Melissa Harris-Perry stops to say, like, well, I agree with you, and I think Paul Ryan is a good choice, but whatever I think of the word hardworking, I want to be careful about language because it brings up to me an image of slaves in a field.
		And that is the definition of hardworking for me.
		What I think she was getting at, first of all, I don't necessarily agree with how she makes this point.
		I think that might be a little bit of a linguistic stretch in terms of bringing unrelated issues in and what have you.
		But I think the point that she's making is: hey, all of us, we're not really that hardworking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the grand scheme of things, let's try and be clear about what we do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that's what she's saying, but I'm not going to go to bat for her 100%.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But Alex is furious about it.
unidentified		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he starts ranting here and it goes a couple minutes and then weaves into some Ben Carson stuff in the debate.
		And it's really important that we get the entire context leading up to this because where it ends and what's making Alex really mad is fascinating.
		And we'll get to it in a second.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If they get angrier and if they get in the scum's face and if you get in the scum's face and stop letting them dictate to you like Melissa Harris Perry does that if you say somebody's a hard worker, you're disparaging black slaves.
		You need to say, listen, witch, quit trying to stir up racism.
		How dare you connect words to racism like you control the language?
		What type of cult leader do you want to be, you freak?
		You going to tell me I got to drink barbituits and vodka and go lay in bunk beds to go join the hail bop cult, you little bug-eyed nobody?
		We're sick of being dominated by trash like you, you piece of garbage.
		Break their control over you.
		Break their spell over you.
		Break the conditioning.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is like Gary Oldsmith.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The heavens are the seal of God's creation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The sun, the moon, the stars all bear God's seal.
unidentified		Nice pivot from realize these people aren't God.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		God is God.
		These people aren't our gods.
		Melissa Harris Perry, is it some God who tells me what to do?
		You have no audience, witch.
		All you've got is your cult programmers and educators in the colleges and public schools that will vomit back whatever you say because they are already dead.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, you do have an audience.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You totalitarian.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I am the liberal.
unidentified		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I am the pro-human.
		I am the pro-freedom.
		Not you.
		My audience carries the light of the republic.
		Not you.
		You carry nightmare Soviet-style brainwashing.
		You are a clear and present danger to this country with the rest of your company of enemies.
		You are the filth of the planet.
		And I'm not stupid.
		I know full well you're capable of self-inflicted political wounds to then roll back clips of what I have to say here.
		The difference is, when you people pull off your garbage, everybody knows who the prime suspects are.
		It certainly isn't us.
		I will annihilate you with information.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Information.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I will destroy you with your own words.
		I don't need violence.
		I don't want any harm upon you.
		I want you to live a long, failed life watching humanity succeed and our children become strong and living together in true human advancement.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No blacks, though.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's what I want to see.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's what you don't want to see as a social engineer, eugenicist garbage pusher.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go to debate audience boost.
		CNBC moderator's question to Ben Carson.
		Let's play this little luscious giblet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Giblet.
unidentified		Gross.
		There's a company called Manatech, a maker of nutritional supplements with which you had a 10-year relationship.
		They offered claims that they could cure autism, cancer.
		They paid $7 million to settle a deceptive marketing lawsuit in Texas, and yet your involvement continued.
		Why?
		Well, that's easy to answer.
		I didn't have an involvement with them.
		That is total propaganda.
		And this is what happens in our society.
		Total propaganda.
		I did a couple of speeches for them.
		I did speeches for other people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They were pretty much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So yes, I did have involvement.
unidentified		It is absolutely absurd to say that I had any kind of a relationship with them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Do I take the product?
unidentified		Yes.
		I think it's a good product.
		You're advertising the homepage of their website with the logo over your shoulder.
		If somebody put me on their homepage, they did it without.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		How dare you be involved in something?
unidentified		Doesn't that speak to your vetting process or judgment in any way?
unidentified		No, it speaks to the fact that I don't know those stories.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great job, Audi.
unidentified		See, they know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		People want to go buy a product when the FTC goes after or the FDA.
		Absolutely.
		I've seen the news reports.
		I've talked to the company owners.
		When they come after you, sales explode.
		People know trash.
		They know who you are.
		They know you hate them.
		They know you got bad will.
		We hate you.
		We see you, Phil.
		We know you're killing babies.
		We know you're aborting them.
		We know you're selling their body parts.
		We know.
		We know.
		We know you don't like us.
		Well, we don't like you either.
		Got that?
		You want to fight, you little bastards?
		You got to get one.
		The sleeping giant is rising.
		Yes, break the chain.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it's good to know that he's doing that on purpose.
		Wow.
		You know, all that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was some good screaming.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we went over that, and I think in the last episode, he's, I mean, he admits that's all fake, that he's just screaming stuff and he doesn't really care.
unidentified		The sleeping giant has a woke!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not hard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He gets off air during the little 70-second commercial break, gargles with a little salt water.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Back on it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the thing there, I think the reason that he's really mad is because the context that Ben Carson is being critiqued about is a nutritional supplement company, and he knows that that's what he does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he knows that he's kind of vulnerable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One scam goes down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All the other scams start falling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Ben Carson was involved with Manatech for a very long time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He did a couple of paid speeches for them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		$42,000 for one of the speeches he got paid.
unidentified		April 2000.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is more than I make in a year.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He wasn't involved.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Carson first spoke.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, it was on his website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But whoever did that did it without his permission.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that was their website, not his website.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To be fair.
		Okay.
		But this is from an article in The Atlantic.
		Carson first spoke out in favor of Manatech products over a decade ago when he claimed that the Texas-based company's glyconutritional supplements, which included larch tree bark and aloe vera extract, help him overcome prostate cancer.
		In one video for Manatech last year that remains online, Carson discusses his experience with nutritional supplements while seated next to the company's logo.
		Quote: The wonderful thing about a company like Manatech is that they recognize that when God made us, He gave us the right fuel, Carson explained, and that fuel was the right kind of healthy food.
		Basically, what the company is doing is trying to find a way to restore a natural diet as a medicine or as a mechanism for maintaining health.
		That doesn't sound like an unbiased person.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, when God made us, he also did give us cancer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Prostate cancer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The human body will break down and eventually turn against itself and murder itself.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But if you just take some aloe vera, man, you're done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's such.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How do you get away with lying like that?
unidentified		It doesn't matter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Then lying like that on stage.
		Doesn't matter.
		And then people booing somebody being like, hey, you clearly didn't say anything.
		If you don't have any involvement with them, why is your picture on their website?
		Maybe you should say something and everybody sue them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Boo!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How dare you make a good point?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The reason that they booed, I don't know why I need to just be super clear about it, but the reason they booed is because the question was: doesn't that indicate bad judgment on your part?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which, I mean, it's dishy, but yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I guess.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But Alex Jones is pissed off because Manatech is also a direct sales operation wherein you buy a bunch of products and sell it to your friends.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're also a multi-level marketing campaign.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so is InfoWars.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Holy fucking shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So is InfoWars life.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's all pyramid schemes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones has a pyramid scheme operating out of InfoWars that he runs.
		And so Manatech is incredibly similar to the InfoWars supplement line.
		And he knows it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a good thing it's an unregulated industry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		He knows it.
		And he knows how vulnerable he is if people start discussing it and you start looking at this stuff, realize how much of a fucking scam it is.
		His house of cards could unravel very quickly.
		Wow.
		And so, of course, he's going to get mad, say that the MSM is the enemy and they're trying to attack people unjustly.
unidentified		And Dr. Carson, you're a surgeon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why is it that you don't believe in science?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Carson, you're a weirdo.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		End of question.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		End of quest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, also in this episode, Alex Jones has a lengthy discussion of cucks.
		He talks about cuckolding.
		And I just left it out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He fucking loves this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I left it out just because it's like, well, this is getting repetitive, and we've got a lot of ground to cover.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if you want to go and listen to that piece of the episode, it's not worth it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to go and get cucked?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So up to this point, there's been a marked lack of discussion of Russia for where we've been in terms of the last two weeks or so of InfoWars coverage.
		But don't worry.
		That's just because he wanted to cover the debate.
		He's getting back into it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There shouldn't be guns openly at boot camp because people don't know how to use them yet.
		It should be in restricted areas, on the range, or with proper trainers.
		I've studied it.
		Haven't been in the military, but I've studied it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And everyone should have them all the time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I get not having a bunch of recruits who might flip out.
		They're being tested.
		There's going to be some mentally ill people.
		That's why you're putting them under pressure to find out what they'll do under pressure.
		That's why they do that at boot camp.
		Quite frankly, boot camp isn't probably strong enough now like it used to be because of political correctness.
		The Russians kill people in boot camp.
		Routinely.
		That's what used to happen in our boot camps.
		And that's because you're there to learn what war is going to be like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Russian boot camps are awesome because they kill people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what I love about my fighting force?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Making sure there are fewer of them and also making sure that you don't want to go to a boot camp because you might die.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, making sure the ones that do make it out are probably psychologically wounded by the fact that their friends died in training.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, love it.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want PTSD before the actual fighting system.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want PTSD among the cooks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Among the people who aren't even in the shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they might lose their minds.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If it weren't for political correctness, we would still be murdering our own military.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Russia does it, and they're great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's his example.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can see how great they are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They have such a wonderful military.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Filled with people who are.
		No.
		They're happy.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're happy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're alive.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So at the end of this episode, Alex has an interview with his intrepid reporter, Wayne Madsen.
		He's the guy who brought us the hot story about Hillary Clinton's chef being murdered and having a letter pinned to him that said, call Larry Nichols.
		That's great.
		So there's that.
		Love it.
		Yeah.
		Wade Madsen has cracked the case of 9-11.
		Okay.
		It turns out that in Arizona, there is a hangar.
		There's like an airfield, and he's convinced that this is where they turned planes into remote-controlled drones.
		He has no evidence of it.
		It is just speculation, and they treat it as gospel.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I knew it was going to be Arizonans who caused this problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he talks about this, and then like two days later on the show, they play a report of him in Arizona, and they think it proves anything, and it doesn't, except that it's clearly very easy to get onto this airfield.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They try and play it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They play it up like it's like no one has ever been here without getting killed.
		Fucking fat Wayne Madsen's just walking around with a camera.
		There's clearly a camera guy with it, but they're just walking around like right over here.
		You see an airplane.
		Like, what are you doing?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're invalidating your own arguments.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm very unhappy with that airbase.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If they are turning planes into drones and their security is that lax, it's like, come on, guys.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but this is like 16 years later or whatever.
		15 years later.
		It's now transferred ownership.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a run-down airbase at this point.
		But anyway, it's a load of bullshit, and I don't really care.
		So we now move on to October 30th.
		And this, I believe, is where some shit gets really serious.
		Some shit gets fucking super serious.
		Here we go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But the sun is the main driver of climate.
		I don't care if the UN passes resolution saying it doesn't affect climate.
		It's the main driver.
		And the only thing that's constant is change.
		So first it's freezing, global cooling.
		Then by the late 80s, it's global warming.
		Because we were in a little warming uptick in the larger cycle.
		And then when it started cooling again in the last 15 years, first the increase in temperature slowed, then it stopped.
		Now it's been declining for about a decade.
		That's numbers across the world on average.
unidentified		Not true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But there's some record high temps, some record low temps, always in all the little micro climates around the world.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So now they just say, you know what, we can't lose if we say climate change.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because the climate change.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And with all the huge news I've got today, I open up with that because Vladimir Putin has come out in a speech and in a Pulit Bureau statement that we have linked on Infowars.com, red-linked, because this is such a big deal.
		Anthropogenic climate change is a geostrategic weapon.
		Globalists want to undermine Russia's thriving energy sector and every other country's energy sector or private energy sector not controlled by the globalist.
		And Putin 100% hits the nail on the head.
		No other major political leader will do this.
		Russia had been even going along with the fraud, but now they're breaking with the globalist on every front.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just can't listen to that right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's tough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There are three hurricanes simultaneously.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And a fourth if you just go a week in the past.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just fucking destroying everything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And you listen to these people who have denied it for so long and you're like, look at all the damage you've done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look at all of the fucking damage you've done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you look at the predictions that were made like, you know, 10 years ago or so, and they're pretty much matching up with what's happening in front of our eyes right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How did we not know, Dan?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How could we not have?
		How could we have missed this?
		This is sure the oil companies themselves knew and made sure that everybody denied it.
		And so they could continue murdering everybody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And sure, Putin has a lot of financial interest in that world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Uh-uh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anthropogenic climate change is a hoax.
		Right.
		It's a weapon.
		It's a weapon to undermine Russia.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the private energy sector.
unidentified		Fuck you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Russia has.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it possible for us to collectively sue?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel like we should be able to sue the oil companies, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All the people in Houston should.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we can link, we can definitely link all of this damage to climate change.
		We can definitely prove that they knew that they were causing climate change and that they knew that this was a result of that.
		So I'm pretty sure that they should be shut down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan, that's sued to oblivion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is one thing, and I'm on board with you, but in terms of our investigation, it's more important that Alex is being fooled by Putin's stance on it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I don't think he's being fooled by Putin's stance on it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It just dovetails nicely into the climate change denial that they've always had.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, Take that away from it.
		Take the climate change part of it out of it.
		Alex is being tricked into thinking Putin is smart and a good leader by Putin taking a position that Alex agrees with for the reason that Putin has a strategic reason to deny climate change in the same way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very direct financial reasons.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the same way that these oil companies do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has the exact same financial interest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so because he doesn't want to lose these billions and trillions of dollars that he could be making if sanctions were lifted, he is super against climate change.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Odd.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And because he takes that position, Alex already agrees with it.
		He's sucked more into Putin is a genius.
		He's a great leader.
		This position that he already was flirting with of being very super into Russia is now just going fucking whole hog.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Full force.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Listen to this next clip.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I say just coming.
		We've got to have world government to save us.
		Then it was global warming.
		Then it's climate change period.
		Vladimir Putin has come out and said anthropogenic climate change is a geostrategic weapon.
		Curtin M.O.M.Wars.com is big time because Russia's breaking with the globalists on every front.
		They didn't go along with carbon taxes before and said they weren't sure it was real.
		Now they're saying, look, it's meant to shut down all major industrial economies not controlled by the IMF and World Bank.
		To have a major world leader who's made the world bipolar again, not unipolar in its power.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's offensive to my people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You want me to say more?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		To have Putin come out and say exactly what it is is a devastating blow against the new world order.
		This is cause for celebration.
		And Putin just went up another notch in my view because you know I don't trust him and know what he was part of and all the rest of it.
		The point is, he's telling the truth.
		He says they want to break up our families.
		They want to destroy our cultures.
		They want to get rid of our sovereignty.
		They want to override us.
		They want to sabotage the human condition.
		This is a genetic takeover.
		I mean, the Russians do listen to this show.
		I was told by the head of RT America some stuff that just sounds so unbelievable, but who would have thought Matt Drudge would show up here?
		You know, who would think top generals, you know, the former head of special forces has been on, two different heads of special forces.
		I mean, we have the big listeners, and yes, the Russian government listens to the show.
		Then I was told that by RT International, one of their main heads, I'll leave it at that, in a Skype interview where I was told it was a Skype interview, and it wasn't a Skype interview.
		Once they cut to me, they started interrogating me in a big table with a bunch of top Russians at it asking me questions.
		And then they had been threatened to never have me back on RT by the U.S. government.
		They were basically asking me who I was, who I worked for, how I could do certain things.
		And they were asking me if I was a U.S. government agent or who I work for.
		And I said, I work for liberty.
		But that's the level I'm at where, like a James Bond movie, it's not RT.
		It's a big table in a government building with a bunch of guys staring at me.
		And I see them on TV sometimes, and it's like Russian leaders.
		Putin listens to the show is the point.
		And I'm not giving us all the credit.
		But when the signal goes out that this is an anti-human shutdown program for austerity, it's game over for the New World Order.
		It's game over.
		So we have to tell it like it is.
		It's a plan to kill us.
		It's a weapon system to selectively cut off the energy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you understand what just happened?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you understand what he just admitted on air?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It turns fucking crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you realize?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He just.
		So I was interviewed by top Russians and they turned me into an asset.
		I should not have said that on air.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He just admitted, like, basically, that is where the compromise is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you know what happened?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, shut off the camera and were like, oh, we can use this guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, that was that simple.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what happened in that interview, too?
		They told him that Putin listens to his show and that he's a genius.
		That's how they compromise people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's easy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Through flattery.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not hard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's how you make an asset out of someone like Alex Jones.
		Steve Pieczenik said it on the last episode.
		Paranoid, delusional people are super easy to manipulate.
		That is what Alex Jones is.
		He just admitted on air that top Russians tricked him into thinking he was having a Skype interview with RT and then grilled him and debriefed him.
		That's insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is game over.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's fine.
		This is proof.
		It's proof that he's the worst spy in the history.
		I was debriefed by the German military, and it's totally fine.
		I should not have said that.
		I should not have said that on air.
		I am a bad spy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's where that horn kicked him.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When I heard that, I was like, I just didn't know what to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How do you deal with that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How do you deal with a guy who can be that open about it, too?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you keep him on the outside.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You keep him on the, you don't tell him shit unless he and you deal with like multiple layers of handlers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why like Steve Pieczenik is clearly feeding him his narratives.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then there's probably a third stage that gets him back to the Kremlin or whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You make it so Alex Jones doesn't think that the people who are feeding him narratives are the ones who are taking narratives from Russia.
		That way he's like, no, Steve Pieczenik's just a great dude.
		He thinks I'm awesome because he flatters me every time he's on the show.
		It's fucking nuts.
		This is so fucking obvious.
		And the other thing that's interesting about that is that RT was in on it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The idea that they set up an interview with RT and that it's actually spies from high, like high-end Russians, that means that RT is way more of a state outlet than Alex is willing to admit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's fucking anti-globalist.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is so problematic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is kind of weird.
		He's making the subtext text.
		That's a big issue.
		Like, even the Russian government is trying to be like, no, RT is a media outlet.
		It's not a state-sponsored propaganda outlet.
		And he's just like, hey, it's a state-sponsored propaganda outlet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And not only that, they use it to cultivate people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, what the fuck are you doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't need an investigative journalist when one of the guys is whistleblowing by accident.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is proudly revealing that he is now officially an asset of the Russian government.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the same thing that he does with his sources.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He accidentally out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's Donald Trump Jr., actually.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He does that stuff all the time.
		He can't help himself because he's on air for three fucking hours a day, and he's beaked out on his fucking supplements that maybe should be regulated.
		So he's fucking high out of his mind on super male vitality and brain force.
		And then he's just like, I didn't tell you about this time that I got fucking recruited.
		I know, that's fucking.
		The other piece of it that you need to unpack is I don't know if he realizes it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course he doesn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like he's telling this story.
		I don't think he realizes how fucked up this story is.
		I don't think he realizes what he revealed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like the only reason because that almost certainly has happened to members of Donald Trump's campaign.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which, again, you are supposed to report that to the FBI.
		Yeah.
		That way they can deal with that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of possibilities that some of the people were willingly cooperating with Russian folk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then there's a lot of people who probably got sucked in by accident.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Got tricked into a meeting or something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And you are, again, supposed to report that to the FBI.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex should have fucking reported that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just the base description that he's giving on air.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He fucking 100% should have been like, now listen, I don't know what's going on, but I got tricked and ended up talking to high-level Russian government officials.
		They were grilling me about whether or not I work for the government.
		That's that, like, when he talks about being in a James Bond novel, he's kind of correct, but he's not James Bond.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's some real fucking stupid Patsy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's the limo driver for James Bond.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he's not even that.
		He's somebody who gets flipped by the enemy.
		He's someone who gets flipped by Goldfinger or something like that.
		It's so crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like Homer Simpson and Scorpio.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, I know that we could probably talk about that clip for an hour, but it's more fun if we just play this next clip because it's even worse.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's continue here now, shifting gears.
		Putin, I mentioned this last hour.
		It's red-linked up on Infowars.com, but it really is ultra-massive news.
		Putin has come out and said man-made climate change is a geostrategic weapon to kill populations and destroy sovereign nations and to selectively shut down corporations not part of the inside global cartel.
		And the fact that Putin's now talking about the exact reality is a devastating shot across the bow because Russia obviously already knows all this, but as more and more of this comes out, as Vladimir Putin becomes the Alex Jones of the world, in fact, the only person I guess that could get bigger than me and being a conspiracy theorist that is reading documents, knowing reality, and exposing exactly what's going on would be a Matt Drudge.
		But who could dwarf Matt Drudge is Vladimir Putin?
		So I guess it goes, Putin, Matt Drudge, Alex Jones.
		I'm like the mini-me now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is really getting weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is very weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's really getting weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure Matt Drudge probably doesn't want you bringing him into this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		So it's Putin shits in Matt Drudge's mouth.
		Matt Drudge shits in Alex Jones' mouth.
		Right.
		And Alex Jones works for Russia now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so does Matt Drudge, probably.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Seems like it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Based on every piece of evidence that we can come up with, they're clearly at least aligned in some way.
		Oh, of course.
		And Alex is externalizing that.
		He's externalizing the network in terms of saying that Matt Drudge, Vladimir Putin, Matt Drudge, me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's making the subtext text.
		You're supposed to say this under your breath.
		You're not supposed to full throat be like, look at all these people who work for Russia now.
		Like, dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm starting to realize is that the reason that he started to have the same guests on every day now, and I think that started somewhere in 2016 or so.
		The reason is because they need to keep a better eye on him and no one wants to listen to his show.
		I think that's what's going on.
		Because stuff like this happens.
		And if this happened a lot, if breaks like this happened, the game would be up.
		Like, people would be able to be like, do you listen to Alex Jones?
		He admits to working for Russia every day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The game should be up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The game is up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It should be up a long time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If everybody would listen to this podcast, the game is up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't believe that he would just say that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't believe that he would just go on air and be like, I was going to do an interview for RT.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		RT lied to me at the behest of the government.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of the intelligence services.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then I was debriefed by the intelligence service agents who then gave me compliments.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and that's insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'm sure that that quote-unquote interview that he had with these high-end Russians was not a situation where they said, you're so right about everything.
		How are you so right?
		Yeah.
		But I'm sure they did say things like that in the cultivation and flattery process.
		It's fucking absurd.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They had to have been all of them sitting there trying hard not to laugh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They were like, dude, we thought this was going to be harder.
unidentified		Yeah, we thought you would be skeptical.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We thought you would at least be like, hey, I like America.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And instead, you're like, nah, fuck yeah, I'm with you guys.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On fucking Y2K, you said Putin was a demon.
		Yeah.
		And then since then, you've been pretty skeptical of all authority.
		Boy, this is easier than we thought.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is nuts.
		We thought you would be like, oh, this is a conspiracy.
		And you might even hang up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Obama should have just said Alex Jones was cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's entirely possible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That might have saved America.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's entirely possible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Alex Jones, I love what you're doing.
		Let me give you some things that I would also love for you to be doing.
		And that would be it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is followed up, all this huge Russia shit is followed up with a long interview with Dr. Group about Liver Shield.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They have a long interview.
unidentified		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's surreal.
		It's so surreal.
		This show is so weird because he's admitting to having, you know, light treason.
		And then, like, I got to get my hippie non-doctor to come in here and talk about the liver stuff that makes green balls fall out of you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, guys, I work for a different nation.
		Also, green and black stones should come out of you all the time.
		Like, wait, what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And here's the chiropractor who made the formula.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me.
		Protect your liver.
		Also, do whatever Russia tells you to do.
		Anyways, moving on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Moving on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there's a long interview there.
		And then he has an interview with Jim Mars, who is an old-timey conspiracy theorist.
		He's apparently written a book about JFK.
		We talked about him in passing like a couple episodes back, maybe like 10 episodes back.
		But he's in studio, and turns out he's a fan of Russia, too.
		Oh.
		Yeah.
		Get this.
jim marrs ▲ ● ▼		Only people like Alex and some others try to bring you the real news.
		For example, the whole thing going on in the Ukraine.
		A lot of people don't really understand that.
		It's, oh, Russia's making a bad move, you know, because we're getting all this anti-Russian propaganda.
		But if you back off and look at it, essentially what happens would be like the CIA.
		I mean, the Russians say, take their intelligence service and come over here to Texas and get a bunch of Texans rolled up about let's secede from the Union.
		And I think we all know that's kind of actually happening anyway.
		And then Texas does say, we want to secede.
		And then the United States, you know, say, look, you can't do that.
		And they would come and try to stop us.
		Right.
		Well, it's the same thing over there.
		Great point.
		We set up this separatist movement.
		We armed them.
		We egged them on.
		And now when Russia says, you've always been a part of Russia.
		You can't do this.
		Now, all of a sudden, we're turning them into the aggressors.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is one of the most convoluted, stupid, false versions of what's going on in Ukraine I've ever heard.
		Also, let's take this piece out of it.
		The people who were trying to secede in California were working with Russia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the guy who led that movement fled to Russia or moved however you want to collect it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For a group of people so obsessed with saying that the Civil War was a war of northern aggression, for him to all of a sudden be like, no, the United States was right.
		We absolutely agree that the Civil War should have ended and we should have been taken over, just like Russia should be.
		That's fucking nuts.
		That's fucking insane.
		Believe in something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because the area in Ukraine, in Crimea, is not part of Russia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it never was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was part of the Soviet Union.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that doesn't exist anymore.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For a very good reason.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the idea that Jim Mars is saying that we went over there, created an uprising, and Russia is just trying to get this area not to secede from Russia, it indicates to me a disrespect of truth and an acceptance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The complete non-existence of the Ukrainian people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, and a complete acceptance of everything that is in line with Russian narratives.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And on this exact episode where Alex is admitting contact with Russian intelligence officers, that's fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The fact that he has almost every guest ends up having some weird connection with Russia, or at least espouses amazingly pro-Russia positions, like Jim Mars here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, that's an interesting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, I'm starting to think that Jakari Jackson didn't leave because of Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He got fired because of that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm starting to think that maybe he sensed how deeply this was a Russian propaganda outlet and got out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm thinking maybe that's the case.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you think so?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think we should talk to Jakari Jackson.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think if either of my suspicions are true, I don't think he'd talk to anybody.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I would respect that because this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he might wind up with a note taped to him that says call Larry Nichols.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to laugh about his death because I like the guy.
		But at the same time, the image of anyone dying with a note that says call Larry Nichols is funny to me.
		But yeah, I mean, if the suspicions that we're really starting to see are true, I think that anybody with actual information that could confirm stuff, it might be a risk to their lives to come out with this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, how many diplomats are going to die before we're like, oh, maybe they are going to kill you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thankfully, most of those aren't in American soil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Plenty of them in Britain, though, strangely enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, so the easy argument against anti-Russian sentiment, which is really high for obvious reasons, is that America does the same shit back.
		Sure.
		And the idea that it's like we're judging them for overthrowing nations is dumb because we've overthrown plenty.
		Right, but we've fucked over plenty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've had this debate on the show already.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is hypocritical, but it's different when it's being done to us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		But my point is: the question that I'm asking is not just that.
		It's that would our intelligence services be that stupid to just grab somebody.
		Is there a left-wing media in Russia that is like some anti-Alex Jones is just Skyping with the CIA?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that the remnants of the KGB probably listen to a couple episodes and like, we can just foam this in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it's a dumbness on their part.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's more like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They just didn't have to worry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who gives a shit?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even if it doesn't work, who cares?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even if he gets on air the next day and screams about the Russians tried to cultivate me, who cares?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No one believes him.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't matter.
		And it did work.
		And even then, who cares?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No one took note of what we just played.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No one said anything about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right, we've got to stop talking about this and move along.
		We've got a lot to get through.
		Just bananas.
		I don't have audio of this, but I might try and post the video of it because one of the narratives that Alex is pushing on this day's episode here on October 30th is that the EPA came out with a video, like a parody satire kind of video, where they're breaking pumpkins.
		They're like smashing pumpkins in climate change is fueled by mass farms and the creating pumpkins for a novelty purpose one time a year.
		It does cause a lot of CO2 emissions.
		And so the way they were like, we're going to fight back and destroy these pumpkins.
		It's satire.
		It's stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a government agency trying to be funny, and that's never going to be good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But still better than Alex Jones making a parody of the parody.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He made a video.
		He made a video with Buckley where they were going around, and Buckley is like his Igor and bringing him pumpkins to destroy.
		And then he starts rambling about how, like, bring me baby pumpkins.
		I want to kill babies.
		It's terrible.
		But as I was watching it, I'm like, this is as bad as high school projects that I did.
		And he's doing this, and millions of people are watching.
		I was like, man, I shouldn't have quit.
		I shouldn't have quit doing sketch stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes it's just you got to keep doing it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes you just got to keep going.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like, this is low-quality bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't even matter if you're good or bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just keep on doing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the 31st, Halloween, Sawhin, is on Sawhin.
		That's on a Saturday this year, so there's no show.
		November 1st, Alex Jones is hungover, probably, so David Knight hosts.
		Of course.
		And we come back on November 2nd, and here's where Alex is at.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then they have the nerve.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The nerve.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The globalists do.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		To claim that Russia is there destabilizing things.
		It is so criminal.
		But if you look at the current situation, the gray areas controlled by are being defeated.
		And so that's why U.S. special forces are being put in to be basically human shields, hoping that the Russians end up killing some U.S. troops.
		And then they can get on the news and say, you deserve to be now attacked, and you deserve to leave Syria.
		And we're now going to start bombing the Assad forces Russia, and you better pull out, hoping the American people get all stirred up and support that.
		But I think they are going too far.
		I think they're jumping the shark.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, sorry about that.
		There's a little glitch there.
		When he's talking about the map, that's ISIS.
		It just said ISIS controls a certain amount of area.
		So Russia's great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Russia's great.
		I love what they're doing in Syria, supporting Assad murdering his own people.
		They're a huge fan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the narrative that he's pushing there is that the globalists are putting our forces in, hoping that a Russian kills one of them in order for us to attack them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So basically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Their evil plot is to destroy the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Russia specifically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because they're the only country that's fighting against the globalists.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which I'm sure the intelligence agents told him in that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you an American agent or a globalist?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other thing that's important to point out is later he goes so far as to say that if Russians bomb Americans and kill them, it's Obama's fault.
		He takes agency and guilt away from Russians and puts it on Obama because you put those forces there in order to bait the Russians into attacking them.
		It's fucking convoluted as hell.
		And he's not supporting America at all.
		And now, granted, I'm not for war either.
		I don't want troops killing anybody.
		I certainly think that we have no place in a lot of the conflicts we're in.
		At the end of the day, sometimes you do have to step in and stop atrocities from happening.
		It's very complicated.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The more you read about foreign policy, the more you're like, nobody knows what to do.
		Nobody has any idea what's the best thing to do.
		Everybody who thinks they know what the best thing to do is fucking insane.
		Everybody who does something winds up fucking things up more.
		And nobody knows what's going on.
		And everybody is fucking insane.
		And that's what foreign policy is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The further thought that I have.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When Obama was president, his foreign policy made as much sense as it could.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now our foreign policy is non-existent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the further thought that I have when I look at this stuff is like, thank God I didn't choose this as a career path.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank God I'm not in this mess.
		Yeah.
		So we're going to go into this next clip, and it's about immigrants and stuff.
		And I want to be clear that this is an instance of Alex Jones repeating very clearly Russian propaganda.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		By the way, if you put up on TV screen for radio listeners, you can go to Infowars.com.
		We have the map up on screen there at Infowars.com forward slash show.
		You can see the areas controlled by Islamic State from the start of their quote invasion a year and a half ago until now.
		That's just a rebranding of al-Qaeda under a new flag.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Same flag, different name.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is fighting against ISIS.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you notice that that conduit goes up into the north out of Iraq, and that's where the, quote, refugees come in from all over the world.
		Radical Islamists travel to Iraq.
		They're allowed in, and then they just simply, the Iraqi government admits this, travel up into Syria and then travel from there as refugees into Europe.
		That's why upwards of 80% of the, quote, refugees are under the age of 30 and get off the trains and form up in military formations and follow their leaders.
		30-year-old, on-average military officers.
		Once they get to refugee centers, they are then released and, quote, disappear by the thousands every day into the European culture.
unidentified		Not true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not true at all.
		Alex is really messing up the difference between average and median.
		That's one of the things that he's messing up when it comes to these ages.
		Also, if you want to say like the average is 30, that means that 12-year-olds count as under 30.
		You know that, right?
		You know, children count as under 30.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's strange that so many children would want to flee.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		From certain deaths.
		Yeah.
		But the reason that I say that this is Russian propaganda is because I've been doing a little bit of looking into the exact nature of this anti-immigrant propaganda that's been going on.
		And from what I can tell and the sources that I've been able to find, Russia is very clearly trying to make the problem of migration worse.
		They're doing this to destabilize and turn people against each other in Europe in order to make populations distrust each other.
		And sometimes their propaganda campaigns are super obvious what they're up to.
		Like there was a Russian propaganda attacked a Dutch referendum to create a trade deal with Ukraine, as Putin obviously was interested in isolating the Ukraine to make it weaker and more likely to fall into Russian power.
		There's an article about this.
		In Amsterdam, a month before the vote, I met Dutch officials who seemed openly afraid of the far-right media.
		They didn't want to be denounced or mocked in the tabloids or shouted at by thugs in the street.
		The government's majority is small, I was told.
		Sure, there are lies being told, they said, but we don't want to take the risk of correcting them.
		So that is one instance of very clear influence that politicians know is happening, but they can't fight back against it because of the radical people who will make their lives fucking miserable if they do.
		That is not so much about the immigrants, but that is about trying to destabilize and isolate Ukraine.
		In terms of the immigrants, there's an interesting case study about this girl named Lisa.
		Are you aware of this at all?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Uh-uh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so I'm going to read from this article in NATO Magazine about one of the first things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a very niche magazine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you sure it's not a zine?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it independently produced in San Francisco?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is in a factory down south.
		That's where it's produced.
		So this case of Lisa, it's called the Lisa case, is one of the first instances where people can really directly see exactly the mechanisms that Russia was using to promote a fake story directed at demonizing immigrants, especially Muslim immigrants, which is actually kind of bullshit.
		Because if you look at the statistics, Russia's not afraid of Muslims.
		They don't hate Muslims.
		If you look at the entirety of Eurasia, they have the highest percentage population of Muslims.
		Like, in Europe, the highest is 7.8%, I believe.
		In France, Russia has 10% of their population is Muslim.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And we've only got like 2%.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe even less.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't care about the Muslim part about it.
		They're not as bigoted as Alex, even.
		They care about making the rest of the world scared of invading hordes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're just exploiting our own current bigotry.
		Yes.
		That's all you have to do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here's from this article.
		The case of Lisa dominated the headlines and impacted on German public discourse for two weeks in January 2016.
		The 13-year-old Russian German girl had gone missing for 30 hours and was reported by first Russian television to have been raped by migrants.
		The story turned out to be fake.
		In parentheses, the German police were able to establish that she had been with a friend that night.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus fucking Christ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the fake story was intensively reported on Russian domestic and foreign media and ended in diplomatic tensions between Germany and Russia.
		In the Lisa case, we see evidence for the first time of several of the different Russian elements that influence and that are described in this article working in the coordinated way.
		So there's bullet points here.
		A journalist from the first Russian TV channel picked up the case of the Russian German girl and brought it to the main news in Russia.
		Russian foreign media like RT Sputnik and RT Dutch reported on the case.
		Social media as well as right-wing groups distributed the information on the internet.
		Demonstrations were organized via Facebook involving representatives of the German-Russian minority, Deutschland Russen, as well as neo-Nazi groups.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who'd a guess?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Russian foreign media in Germany reported from these demonstrations, which brought it to the German mainstream media.
		Finally, at the top political level, Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavarov made two public statements about his concern about the inability of the Russian police, excuse me, the German police and legal system to take such cases seriously because of political correctness.
		Sounds a lot like Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sounds very similar.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As a result of the Lisa case and the different Russian activities in the context of the Ukrainian conflict, we're able to see a shift in Germany from the dominance of the dominance of the economy over politics to a dominance of politics over the economy.
		Russia has become a security risk.
		The relations are increasingly politicized and securitized.
		So then there was an interview with a guy, a Hungarian spy, named Ferenc Ketterin.
		This is a gentleman who...
unidentified		Raptor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a fake name.
		It's definitely not a Malaysian name.
		I'll tell you that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not Hungarian.
		So this is a guy who broke cover to tell The Independent about how he had closely monitored and observed how Russia attempts to aggravate the migration crisis by spreading false stories.
		He was quoted as saying, When it comes to the events in Cologne or other sexual offenses, they, meaning the Russians, are active in emphasizing that the German or Western authorities and the media are attempting to cover up these crimes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, yeah, sure, they don't exist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, they didn't happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, some crimes did happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this one particularly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Lisa case.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they are trying to cover up that it didn't happen, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They want to make sure that you know it did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But this is 100% in line with the narrative that Alex Jones spins about migrants.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He always talks about how these PC governments in Europe are covering up rape statistics.
		He talks about Sweden all the time.
		That's another Russian prong attack because they want to destabilize Lapland in order to be able to take out Sweden, Norway, and shit.
		So this idea that these governments are in able to take care of their own people is to get people against their governments.
		Create political strife, political conflict that can either get a government unable to deal with external crises or make them ripe for the plucking.
		That is something that Russia has been doing even beyond, if you go back further, even before they were involved in trying to fuck with our elections.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They were doing this immigration.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They were doing trial runs of course they did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now here's where it gets interesting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're the big get for them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's where it gets interesting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nigel Farage has been very guilty of perpetuating a lot of these stories that end up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nigel Farage should be fucking murdered.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's super guilty of pushing a lot of the exact same narratives that end up being false.
		Farage echoed the rhetoric of the Sweden Democrats, a political party that has risen in influence by marshaling fear of asylum seekers and advocating for strict immigration policies.
		Critics like the Sweden Democrats suspect that the government is colluding with the mainstream media to hide damning statistics of a supposed rape epidemic.
		Because he calls Sweden and Malmo in particular the rape capital of Europe.
		Now, Sweden Democrats is a misleading name.
		They are a proto-fascist organization.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was about to say, of course they are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, nice name, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like how in Australia the liberals are actually the worst people on the fucking planet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I did a bunch of research into this and it turns out that the reason that rape statistics are kind of high, even though actually they've gone down just like crime all across America since the 70s.
		Right, but one of the reasons that if you track it from like 2005 to current, the numbers have gone up very high.
		And one of the reasons is because in 2005 Sweden voted to expand what they consider rape.
		And so they have a very wide net of inappropriate sexual behaviors that get classified as a rape.
		So from 2005 to present, the number looks like it's going up when in reality it's just that they consider more things in that category.
		Of course.
		Now, further, they have a very interesting legal system in Sweden.
		It turns out that this is this is from a Swedish source.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They believe women?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a big problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So let's say that this is the example that they gave.
		If a woman, like a wife, that's the example they used.
		If a wife calls the police and she has a diary where she has in her diary 400 instances of spousal rape that her husband committed against her, the police will consider that 400 crimes.
		So each incident is considered a crime instead of one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because that's what it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if one call comes in like that, and this person who was discussing this is like, this has happened before, it makes their statistics look incredibly fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, whenever there's one victim and a bunch of offenses, or one perpetrator and a ton of offenses, or one perpetrator, or one victim and ten perpetrators, it can make things look like there is more actual acts than there actually are, which I think is probably good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think it's absolutely good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's positive, but it does open itself up to being included.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because she was raped 400 times.
		Yes.
		And that is, I mean, I'm sure this is an example, but that is the point.
		That is what should be considered.
		And he should be in jail for 400 lifetimes.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, what the issue, though, is that because that is how they classify things and how they keep statistics, it's really easy for people on the outside to make really misleading claims about their statistics.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, because a foreign country does differently, you assume they do it the same, and then you are easily manipulated by it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Russia perpetuates these narratives and pins it on immigrants and these refugees, and people like Nigel Farage and Alex Jones pick up on them and perpetuate them further.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is a clear pipeline that's going on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The dumb are so easy to manipulate.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Quote Steve Pieczenik.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is fucking insane.
		Like, all of this stuff, just like the crack epidemic in the 80s and how that was used to demonize black people based on an agenda that old fucking white men had.
		Like, all of that stuff is done so specifically and in such a targeted manner to the people who are dumb enough to believe it.
		And it's just so fucking sad.
		It's just really sad that there are so many people who you would otherwise think are normal, fine people, and then they're just manipulated by this dumb shit and become monsters.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, all of this, all of this stuff, like, Nigel Farage is a fucking sociopath who knows, who knows that everything he says is bullshit, is a lie, and is going to hurt the people that he's telling it to.
		He knows this.
		He is an evil human being.
		The people who buy his shit are not evil.
george noory ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why we always try and make the distinction between the Russians and Russia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		No, the government is evil.
		The people are generally good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we got to hit the gas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've got a lot to get through.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We got a lot to get through.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here is a clip of Alex Jones defending Assad.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And so here's the CIA trying to launch a nerve gas attack through their surrogates, but their surrogates are so out of control and so stupid, they run around screaming, a la Akbar, and praising the God of death or whatever, that they're nerve-gassing markets.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hades.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then our media goes, Assad, nerve-gas the markets.
		And Assad's like, I'm giving all my chemicals up.
		I'll do whatever you want.
		I'll even step down out of power.
		Just take your Saudi Arabian troops out of the country.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was a great press conference.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He wants to move to England and retire.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He was trying to transition the government from his father a dictator out of that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We all know that a lot of dictators abdicate power willingly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Tons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He just wants to retire to England.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He just wants to give up all of those billions of dollars and that total control over his country that his family has had for forever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he wants to give up his ability to gas detractors.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he hates that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, I looked at...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's like Boehner.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He just wants to step down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I looked into this a bunch, too, and all of the accusations that the gassings were a false flag come from very dubious sources, and most have been thoroughly debunked.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This video that Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's not murdered his own people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This video that Alex is talking about most likely was, I couldn't track it down.
		I don't know specifically what he's talking about.
		But I'm 99% certain he's taking it out of context.
		I'm guessing it's from something else.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe even in a different country, and Alex has no idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here's another damning fucking clip.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I want to get into some really big news here with Russia that ties into all this.
		And I want to get into the move to arrest people that deny that climate change is man-made and how that ties into what Putin's doing.
		I don't mean to be obsessed with Putin.
		He's just involved in everything now.
		Almost always on the right side, one of the only world leaders actually telling the truth.
		I see the comments all over, even on mainstream publications, comment sections, from all over the world that Putin is hope.
		That's a quote I see more and more.
		Putin is hope.
		And it doesn't say much about Putin, does it?
		What does it say about us that we have such scum running our country and running the West?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex, love it or leave it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Putin doesn't let radical Islamics into the country.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he does.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Putin pays people to have kids.
		Putin doesn't teach five-year-olds how to give blowjobs.
		I mean, I'm sorry.
		Do you think they're not?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They want people to kill kids, too.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Putin's cut people's taxes.
		Putin's promoting Christianity.
		Putin's fighting al-Qaeda.
		They've been loosening gun laws in Russia.
		That just shows how unbelievably pathetic this country is.
		How overrun with complete trash we are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know who those people are who are saying Putin is hope in message boards are?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bots.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex is regular old folk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is completely falling for their prong, the other prong of their influence campaign.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Seeing all these pro-Russian bots pop up and saying Putin is hope.
		This is pathetic.
		It's not pathetic.
		It's treasonous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why didn't that's that's probably going to be the biggest question for Obama's presidency?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His legacy?
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why didn't he do anything about this?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To sort of deal with that question, we end up in wild speculation.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I would guess that you don't want to start a war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That might be one piece of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think another piece of it might be threats, like backroom threats that have been made.
		I don't know.
		I don't know.
		I don't think we'll know for another good 10 years probably what the reality was, why more wasn't done to combat this.
		Because it's very clear now looking at it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I wonder how I would really like to know how Obama feels about this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure not great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would hope not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, now I do believe in globalists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If Obama's like, yeah, of course I let him take over.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, wait, wait, what?
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me, Obama.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
unidentified		Wait, wait, what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He made me hopeful.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, I just wanted to become the caliphate.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just wanted to take over the Middle East.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So as they're talking about this, they flash up on screen a Shepherd fairy, but Putin.
		They flash up on the screen a picture of Putin as that hope image of Obama.
		Yeah, it's crazy.
		So now we get into a little bit of Trump stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So our investigation is back on track, maybe.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump, by the way, we have a video of this.
		We're going to play it next hour.
		Has challenged Obama saying his Syria policy is bad news, putting trips on the ground in harm's way.
		And the answer is back Russia and bombing them.
		Join them in targeted strikes, which the Russians have asked for.
		And Carson has come out defending Obama's policy.
		By the way, Carson is a super smart guy.
		They attack him and say he's not really aware of politics.
		And I think he's busy being a brain surgeon all day.
		He is not as informed as some of the other candidates, but I think he's better than Hillary Clinton, but it is not a policy in this policy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hillary Clinton.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's a big strike again against Carson, along with his forced inoculations, BS.
		Trump is just better in triplicate.
		I mean, if Trump delivers on what he acts like he is, he'll be a great president.
		Light years better than Hillary.
		The problem is, I think he can be double-crossing us.
		He can be working with the Bushes or Hillary.
		But the Russians are so big he double-crosses them.
		Can we just have somebody doesn't want to wreck the country?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Apparently not.
		But you see there that Trump is indicating alignment with Putin, and this makes Alex warm to Trump.
		He is now, instead of saying, I don't trust him, he's adding on a second layer of where before it was, I'm afraid he's going to double-cross us.
		Now he's saying, but he might double cross them, even if he is a mole.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how to.
		There's this combination of exhaustion that I think, and I think it's hitting just about all of us, or at least it's really starting to tear me apart.
		Where it's like, these people are always going to believe that Trump is a better president than Hillary would have been.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is objectively and truly irrational.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		At this point, you're just in denial.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we can say that even with some critiques of Hillary in our hearts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Plenty of critiques of Hillary in the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Those things are not contradictory positions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it is just, it is beyond it.
		So now we're just dealing with so many people who have to spend so much energy in denial.
		Either that or they just stop paying attention.
		Like, those are the only two ways to go about it.
		So my exhaustion is just like, I get it.
		You're done.
		You have no further, you've got nothing more to say.
		Because you are now completely and utterly irrational.
		I can't talk to you.
		I can't debate with you because there's nothing.
		You have nothing.
		The reality is too overwhelming.
		It's just like now there are three hurricanes hitting our fucking coastlines, and people are like, whoa, whoa, let's not talk about climate change.
		Now isn't the time.
		Let's not talk about climate change.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, we do that all the time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, you have to work so hard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't politicize the issue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's not politics.
		It's the world being destroyed.
		This is no longer a politics situation.
		It never fucking was.
		You have murdered your children.
		That is what you have done to everybody who's like my dad still denies climate change, still thinks that Trump is a great president.
		And it's like, here's what you're really in denial about.
		If you actually stop and accept the fact that by your actions and by your votes, you have essentially contributed to the deaths of millions of people, specifically your kids.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you do that, the weight has to be overwhelming.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's probably why you don't want to do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		It has to all of a sudden be like the idea of accepting responsibility, accepting a personal responsibility for what is essentially going to be a large-scale human genocide is too much.
		So of course you would retreat into denial.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And think about the flip side of this.
		For Alex to now flip on Trump is for him to recognize that he was used.
		And I'm guessing the weight would be not the same, but it would be very heavy for him as well.
		As soon as he gets off the Trump train, he's got to look back on everything and be like, I was used by Russia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he can't do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can't.
		Just like your dad can't.
		I've got to skip a bunch of stuff because we are going to fucking end up at a five-hour podcast.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How many clips did you cut?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We got a bunch because we got a lot of fucking deep shit like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have evidence that he's been debriefed by Russian intelligence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then the episode is going to end with like the, I think, the hammer in the coffin.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I'm going to skip two clips because they are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex tells a story of his Halloween party.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would you skip that one?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because they're long.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We don't need to get into the deep stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're long.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's hear about Halloween parties.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're long, but I'll give you the short version.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was debriefed by Russia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He wears a captain's hat.
		And two people come up to him, maybe three, it's unclear, come up to him and accuse him of having a Nazi outfit on.
		It's not true at all.
		I kept there's two of them because he tells the story twice, and it's very different each time.
		But in the first version, he says that some white girl came up to him and was crying because every costume she could have worn would have been accused of being racist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did not happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There are so many of those.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This character is mysteriously absent from the second version of the story, but it becomes multiple people who say this to him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I remember when I dressed as a Disney princess.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And people were like, oh, that's racist to imagination.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other thing that we take away, the only thing I regret we're going to drop is that we find out that Buckley does some DJing, which is now Buckley's spinning a little bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we'll skip that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Buckley's on the ones and twos.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This clip we can't skip.
		And it's the end of the November 2nd episode that we're on here.
		And it's just fun because it's what happens when Alex Jones gets prank called.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go to Stephen in California.
		You're on the air than she and others.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Hey, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Welcome.
unidentified		Colin from Communist California here, and I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified		I just wanted to say how much I love your product.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you, brother.
unidentified		I'm on DNA 4, Supermale Vitality, Beep Clem, Survival Shield, Aproprio Filter for over the past year.
		I'm just so amazed by the accuracy of the information that you put out.
		I've been listening for like a year and a half now, and like everything that you've said has just come to fruition.
		Like the surveillance blimps.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, sir, that was always partially declassified.
		They would just say it didn't exist nationally and say they were flying saucers.
		But they got blimps all over the country.
		And yeah, it's amazing.
		It's a secret blimp of the Army watching us.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And now that we have a U.S. Navy missile instructor and many other experts confirming that the Earth is a flat and motionless plane.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're being sarcastic.
		That's a prank call.
		That's an ad hominem thing where people, there's seminar calls on that where you call in, and then you say, oh, you're so accurate.
		And then the ads of the went to Earth's flat.
		It's a standard tactic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I have a couple thoughts about this.
		Yes.
		It's possible that was a prank call.
		It's not possible that he's being trained by the institutes or whatever to do this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or whatever he calls it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's talking about the globalists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's also entirely possible that was not a prank call.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is entirely possible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is 100% a possible thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because there's no smirk on that voice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, and the tone doesn't change.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It seems like he really just wants to talk about the Earth being flat.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he loves Alex Jones.
		Alex doesn't want to recognize that there's a big overlap between those communities.
		The crazy people and people who like him.
		There is a massive Venn diagram overlap.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would suggest there is just one circle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a big old circle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we skip the third and the fourth because I don't give a shit.
		They're just boring.
		On the third, he actually has an interview with Michael Savage, but I don't care.
		It's unsubstantial to the matter at hand.
		So we're so deep that we're skipping an interview with Savage.
		Yeah.
		And then on the fourth, James O'Keefe has a new video out.
		We're not going to play any of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Project Veritas, baby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has some lady who went around to a couple colleges and tried to get the people who work in the student help services offices to shred the Constitution.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why are these people so dumb?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you actually watch the videos, first of all, they're crazy edited.
		But at the same time, this girl goes in and she's like, I found the Constitution that someone handed to me to be triggering.
		And you see the people's face like, and it's like, how can I be catering to this person, but at the same time, not be crazy?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to be supportive because that's who I am.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's my character.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to support you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am.
		I can't just.
		Even though I would be in the right, I would at least get a talking to if I said, fuck.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You idiot.
		The shredding of the Constitution is always the girl who is the mark or is the plant.
		It's always her idea.
		And people are like, I guess.
		It doesn't prove anything.
		It doesn't prove that the universities want to get rid of the Constitution.
		It's fucking nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not the Constitution.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a copy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've got so many of those.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		But at the same time, I get the idea of like or whatever.
		Who cares?
		It's not important.
		The other thing that Alex goes off on on this episode that I thought was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, now it'd be funny if she handed her a Kindle with the Constitution on it.
		Shred it.
		Could you shred this?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll just keep it.
		I'll just keep this Kindle.
		So the other thing he does is he goes on a long rant about how men are the defense mechanism for women.
		And in the womb, women's bodies create men in order to be protecting of them.
		It's very weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Kill me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very weird.
		It's very weird.
		Kill me, Dan.
		It's very weird, but it's also really interesting how sexist it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because it's sexist in a truly insane way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because it's the sexism of forced chivalry in some ways.
		Because it's like this idea that implied in what he's saying is that women who hate men are rejecting their help.
		Like these bulldykes and what have you.
		They are rejecting the natural way that is men on a biological level are just created in order to protect women.
		That is basically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Then why are they so bad at it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why is it that they do all the violence to the women?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's interesting that, you know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Biologically, if we were made to protect women by God, why is it his system winds up with so much domestic abuse and murder?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very confusing.
		And Alex is, I think it's one of those peyote moments for him because he's just getting out there.
		It's super weird.
		Then he has an interview with a guy about China easing its one-child policy.
		And it's interesting on one level.
		And then it turns into a whole thing about relative racial birth rates.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There it is.
		There we go.
		So there we go.
		White people aren't reproducing enough.
		That's a big narrative.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so that goes on throughout that.
		I just skipped that whole episode because it's really not worth it.
		So we get on to the fifth, and Alex spends the first long period of the show talking about how Robert Rodriguez and Quentin Tarantino suck because they don't like him and how they're globalists, I guess.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Then he has an interview with Ron Paul.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel like Quentin Tarantino should really transcend Alex Jones.
		Right.
		Like, Alex Jones should still be like, look, pulp fiction was great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He actually does say that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's in the context of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's like, pulp fiction was great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I prefer reservoir dogs, and that's why Quentin Tarantino sucks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's like, he made one good movie.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he has an interview with Ron Paul, and this ends up being said.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What do you make of Putin coming out and saying man-made global warming is nothing but a global government tax to wreck nation states?
		Now the Hungarian prime minister has come out and said the treasonous conspiracy to marginalize nation states opening their borders more and more.
		I mean, I read the Russian news every day.
		It sounds like it's libertarian or something.
		That's really scary when the foreign press sounds more Americana than America.
		Yeah, that is a little bit scary.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I bet it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I bet it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I read the Russian news every day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's Americana.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's so American.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That Americana is starting to get weaved in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love that.
		Don't you remember Trump's slogan?
		Make America Russia again?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, basically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's fucking ridiculous.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and the fact that Ron Paul isn't like, hey, fuck off, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And there's nothing wrong with reading Russian news every day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But if you believe everything that Russian news tells you every day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's a problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why is it that Russia?
		It's such bullshit that you can have mainstream media is lying to you, but Russia's mainstream media is telling you the truth all the time.
		Because it already agrees with the dumb shit you believe.
unidentified		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fucking think.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he pulls in Hungary's leader as backup.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like, that dude is closely aligned with Putin.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's like mini Putin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, that's why I always back up all of my positions with Erdogan told me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So at the end of this episode, Alex just, I don't know, maybe he wanted to leave early or something, but he just replays the entire Matt Drudge interview.
		Weeks past when it happened.
		I don't know why he did that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he's got such a hard-on for Matt Drudge.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so the November 6th episode is also kind of lame.
		He has a long interview with Peter Schiff, where they talk about his dad dying in prison.
		And, you know, rest in peace.
		I'm sorry your dad died, but he was not a political prisoner.
unidentified		And he's a criminal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex also spends a whole lot of time talking about how David Cross sucks because I think David Cross insulted him at some point.
		I don't know.
		Also, Ben Carson is done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But did he also do the thing where he's like, Mr. Show was great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Show was great.
		I think it's actually all about run Ronnie Runn.
		I think that's what he's mad about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look, I just had high hopes for it, and it didn't turn out to be as good as I thought it was going to be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, Jay Johnson's still great.
		Yeah, yeah.
		Ben Carson is a good one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I wish they'd let more of Paul F. Tompkins writing get in there, but that's fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A lot of jokes were cut.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, we can riff all day, but Ben Carson is officially done on this episode because it has come out that he lied about having a scholarship at West Point.
		And so that's it.
		He's done.
		Alex has precluded him from being a possible candidate, which really just leaves Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was like, okay, we can't let Ben Carson be president.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's make sure he's the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, look at the, you know, I looked at the When People Dropped Out chronology, and at this point, I think only Rick Perry and Lindsey Graham had dropped out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, everyone is still in the mix.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, if Trump is the leader, everybody is still in the mix.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and no one is even close to Trump at this point.
		Right.
		And so the idea that Alex had made it a dichotomy of Trump or Carson, even though he loves Rand Paul and wishes Rand Paul was up there.
		Yeah, but Ted Cruz is not even super in the running.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because even Alex knows that Ted Cruz is a giant piece of shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's a shithead.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, yeah, you can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look, you can support Ted Cruz all you want, but you look at him and you're like, that's a slimy monster.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't need any of that shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But now that Ben Carson's done, it really implicitly means that Trump is really the only game in town that Alex can go to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Especially because Rand was never there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, on this episode, we found out that one of Alex Jones' ancestors created Dr. Pepper.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not sure if that's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I buy it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I'll believe it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The only clip I have from this episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In the same way that I believe that Ben Carson had a scholarship to West Point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The only clip that I took from this episode is Alex accidentally revealing sort of his workflow.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go against whatever the New World Order agenda is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Just as a default, and then intellectually I can see all the reasons for it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So if you aren't understanding what he's saying there, he just instantly goes against whatever this imaginary group of globalists are for in his head and then later rationalizes it.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what he does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's how he creates his positions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the best way to do things, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not complete.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Start with a feeling and then say or do anything to justify that feeling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is not at all insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's rational thought.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that is on the 6th.
		And then we go, the 7th is Saturday.
		And we show back up on November 8th.
		It's a Sunday, and it's time for a launch of a new soft narrative.
		Sundays are when he pitches stuff out there, and it's like he's workshop and stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's an open mic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's how he begins on Sunday.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The conflagration of news, the way things are aligning, the perfect storm that's unfolding economically, culturally, politically, militarily, astrophysically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Is really legendary.
		And they're having a major UN conference to openly bring in world government in December.
		We're now about a month and a half out from that week-long conference beginning.
		The conference also lives in the trance who lobbies to keep all the EU borders open will be closing its borders coming up in about a week throughout this period because they don't want anybody to come in and cause a disruption during the formation of the open planetary government.
		You notice they've passed the TPP four and a half weeks ago in line with this.
		We only Friday got the full text of it, or Thursday got the full text of it.
		This is a big deal.
		Vladimir Putin is going to be attending and he will be the only major world leader.
		That tells you how sewn up things are at the top of the pyramid who will reportedly say it is a plan to destroy nation states, starve over a billion people, and selectively bankrupt energy companies not controlled by the globalists, which is exactly what the plan is.
		Putin came out two weeks ago and said this.
		He came out again last week and said it.
		He said he didn't buy it completely years ago.
		Of course, he knew full well what it was.
		But now Russia is under such attack and so encircled, and they're trying to destroy the energy systems of Russia and Europe for that matter that Putin is telling it like it is, and it is a big deal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is about the Paris climate talks.
		That's the formation of world government.
		Very frustrating.
		Would you have predicted?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm very angry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Would you have?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm very angry.
unidentified		Would you have predicted?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Would you have predicted that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan, I'm very...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know how when you get really angry and you just start fucking...
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
		Just like, fucking, I want to murder everybody.
		Uh-huh.
		I just can't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Stop muttering.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just can't fucking do this shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm losing my goddamn.
		We're all dying.
		We're all dying because of dumb people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Fuck.
		So this is about the Paris climate talks.
		And here in this next clip, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And these fucks don't even, they still don't care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They still don't fucking care.
		They're going to do everything they can to avoid paying for the destruction that they've caused.
		And they're going to do everything possible to ensure it continues happening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand how this is fucking possible unless you're a psychopathic serial killer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or if you've been lied to and you believe that it's the creation of world government that will lead to totalitarianism and the starvation of a billion people, according to the studies that have been done by Lord Moncton.
unidentified		What are I?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones's other stupid guests.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't fucking.
		I can't deal with this shit.
		You are murdering us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not you.
		It's just.
		We don't deserve continued existence.
		Human beings should be gone.
		We should just be gone.
		Put a pin in it.
		I've stated that I've been a soft no on white genocide.
		Now I'm a full yes on humans need to go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're going to join the VHM movement, the volunteers.
		The human extinction movement?
		Absolutely.
		Put a pin in it because in this next clip, Alex Jones, he starts by talking about globalist plots and what have you, but then it turns into a weird, aggressive, like, hey, I know you globalists are listening kind of thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's sort of a man going crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know the globalists are listening.
		Putin, how you doing?
		I know the globalists are listening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Putin, I really could use a golf weekend.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anyways, the globalists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he thinks that everyone who's not an info warrior is an avowed globalist.
		I think that's what he thinks.
		Just listen to this.
		It's fucked up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And to not let humans develop naturally.
		He'll argue there is no natural development.
		There's no unnatural mutation.
		I've heard it all from the IBM executives and the rest of them.
		Okay, I know what you're going to say before you think it.
		Talking to people out there that buy into all this crap.
		Because you went to some meeting at a university and got patted on the head because you think you're part of the crew now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Instead of going to a meeting with the Russians and getting patted on the head and thinking you're part of the crew now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Projecting a little bit.
		A little bit there.
		Just a little bit.
		Also, he refers to the group a couple times.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And because that's actually the sentient beings that make up Dr. Group, right?
		The flies.
		The sentient group of flies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We are the group.
		No, because I've listened to so much of the show, I know exactly what he's talking about.
		He's talking about the 45 group, which is the group that Roger Stone, Steve Pieczenik are in.
		And so when he talks about this idea that you went to some meeting and people patted you on the head and complimented you, made you think that you're part of the group.
		That's exactly what his life is.
		He was flattered by Russian intelligence, and now he's been brought in by Steve Pieczenik into this organization that is trying to promote Donald Trump as president for the interests of a foreign country, and they've made him feel like he's a part of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a part of the group.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is all just and by and the way that they do that is they made him they made him feel like they were part of his group.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is so fucking easy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so easy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It should be hard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You saw that prank caller do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It should be hard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe prank caller.
		Maybe prank caller.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		But you see, like, this is, psychologically speaking, Alex trying to deal with what's happening to him by saying it's what his enemies are going through.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And his enemies are people who listen to his show that aren't on board, I guess.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Pretty much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's finish this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You idiots.
		I'm talking to new listeners that serve the establishment.
		You think you're going to prey on your fellow humans and ascend to the next level?
		That's 101.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are they still listening?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		As a return on the universe, that you're going to be absolutely brought down for what you've done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who's that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		People are the opposite of the type of spirits because you're not even spirits.
		You're little greedy bastards.
		You're not even alive.
		You've lost your souls already.
		And you're so dead, you think you're going to merge with a machine and become alive?
		If you were alive, you'd know that that would be the end of your humanity.
		Not to use a machine to augment you or help you or help you survive.
		Or, no, no, a machine that makes you a god, a machine that takes over your free will, a machine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you should take a pill for that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Give me a break.
		A machine made by men.
		And you think it's the god.
		And you'll want to believe it's artificially intelligent.
		You'll want to believe it has all the answers.
		When all the answers were laying in front of you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is weird stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is he talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure.
		He's on a weird tear on this episode.
		I wrote in my notes, this show is a whole lot of nothing.
		He spends about 20 minutes talking about how he's always been right about Benghazi and plays some clips from Benghazi past.
		He spends a good amount of time defending Maureen Le Pen.
		He complains about trans bathrooms.
		He espouses a belief that if you are actually the victim of terrorism, you never talk about it because you don't want to encourage terrorism, which by proxy means that every time someone's claimed terrorism, it's been a false flag.
		He also admits that his Sunday show is the only one that is not actively co-produced by GCN because they use a different phone line.
		He says that Sunday is the only show that we entirely produce ourselves.
		That means he either goes through GCN or there's outside funding.
		And that's something he probably shouldn't have admitted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The number of things he admits that he shouldn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So five days a week, his show involves some sort of outside influence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's such revealing that all he is is a guy who defines himself externally by what he's against.
		He has no internal identity.
		It's purely, I am against this stuff.
		And that's who I am.
		I am a person who is against.
		I'm against all of these, all of the things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The globalists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't entirely understand those people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a type of person.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The people who define themselves externally.
		That's such a weird thing to me is that you don't have any internal identity.
		Like, you don't have any idea of who you are.
		If it weren't for these imaginary people, who is he?
		You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he likes a good scotch.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He likes beef.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But does he even like that stuff?
		Or is it like somebody told him that somebody was like, hey, scotch is bad.
		And he was like, fuck you.
		I'm going to drink nothing but scotch.
		Or he's like, I met a vegan one time and they were like, you shouldn't eat beef.
		And he's like, I'm eating just beef from now on.
		I love it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this pansy vegan.
		I am manly.
		I eat meat.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
		But here, listen to this.
		This next clip is also super revealing.
		And it might actually be a piece of his intrinsic personality.
		And it's incredibly fucked up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Damn.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know what I stand for, and I know history.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't know what to do.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Being ridiculed or attacked or demonized at a sick level is entertaining.
		And I repented of that five years ago.
		I don't get off on it anymore.
		I realize it's part of the danger zone we're in.
		And I shouldn't get off on being lied about and attacked.
		Again, I'm so aggressive and so manly that when I get attacked and lied about, I actually like it.
		I mean, it's sinful, and I repent for it.
		But the enemy doesn't hurt me when they do that stuff.
		It actually, in a sick way, I get off on it, and I've almost gotten to the point where I don't get off on it.
		And now I realize how serious it is.
		I realize it means how important our work is.
		But that's just what it comes down to.
		Let's go to some phone calls here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If on a sick level he gets off on people attacking him, it makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it follows that he would intentionally say inflammatory things.
unidentified		And then he would do dumb shit in order for more people to attack him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if he should be saying these things on air.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's because he's so manly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He needs to see a therapist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's because he's so manly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Too manly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Too manly.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, in a certain sense, that is 100% true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Toxic male.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In the idea of what a man is, you're just a fucking lunatic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the rest of this episode is spent with him screaming about a situation at Yale where some students were offended by people wearing racist Halloween costumes and what have you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, D.C. police.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they had a confrontation with the head of student affairs, I believe.
		And he was explaining that it is free speech for them to be able to dress in offensive ways.
		And the people were like, what the fuck?
		You're supposed to create a safe environment for us.
		We're being racially victimized by people.
		And it is a debate that, you know, I don't think either side is wrong because I think that you should be able to wear racist costumes, but there should be some real consequences for it.
		Yeah.
		So it is free speech to say and do horrible things, but it's also the most reasonable response to be very mad about it.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The government should not arrest you, but it also shouldn't be illegal to beat the shit out of you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's that.
		And a private institution, such as a college, should obviously have the ability to throw you out.
		I mean, it's not punishing you for your free speech, is that you're creating an environment wherein it's not conducive to learning because people are being victimized for their race.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like if you're in a library and somebody brings in a gun.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is not a safe environment anymore.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not the way I want to study.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I definitely don't want a librarian to go, shh, and then get fucking shot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, are you ready for November 9th?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're ready about this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This, my friend, is the beginning of the end.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ladies and gentlemen, big things are happening, obviously, here in the United States and around the world.
		Thank you, Saj, for joining us today.
		We do have two guests: Phyllis Schlafly, founder of the General Forum, who break down what's happening to Western borders and how to stop the globalist takeover.
		Then Roger Stone, who has written a new book dealing with the fact that the Clintons have had a war on women, will be joining us.
		He is a historian.
		So that is coming up today.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Roger Stone has arrived.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is his appearance.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is when he shows up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		November 9th.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Roger Stone.
		Yep, and Phyllis Schlafly on the same episode.
		What a fucking mess.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		First, we have a monster.
unidentified		Second, we have a bigger monster.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know which order would be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a good question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But so the thing that is interesting to me is that Alex seems to be unwilling or unaware of the fact or unwilling to tell the fact that Roger Stone worked on Trump's campaign.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In his interview or his introduction, he only says that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a historian.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, he actually calls him an alternative historian.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Philip K. Dick was an alternative historian.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex, all of his introductions for him, it's just he hates the Clintons.
		He's a historian.
		He's a writer.
		He's a dirty trickster.
		Because he even brings up how Roger Stone was behind a lot of those fake conservatives that showed up to shut down the recount in Florida in the 2000 election.
		Like, he even talks about how, oh, yeah, he got these fake people to show up and ended up getting George W. Bush the election, which Alex should be against since he hates George W. Bush.
		But he just doesn't see a conflict there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, you got to give a con man credit when he cons, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't actually get into the fact that Roger Stone is deeply involved with Trump until they're in the middle of their interview, which we will get to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But first.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You teasing motherfucker.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones has to tell you a story about the gym.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Welcome back to the tip of the spear in the fight for human liberty.
		I'm your host, Alex Jones.
		This morning I was in the local gym, and I killed an 18-year-old.
		There was a personal trainer there, a lady training a middle-aged fellow.
unidentified		Is this a matter of time?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He kept staring at me, and he kept staring at me wherever I was in the gym.
		And I don't really care.
		I just ignore that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I get off on it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then I was over on some cable machines.
		And the lady kind of comes over with him.
		And the gym's pretty much wide open on a lot of people there.
		And there's other machines.
		And I was on this one first.
		I've been on there about 30 seconds.
		And they said, I guess you can use that, but I'm going to want it in a minute, which is not normal etiquette.
		You just come over and say, hey, can I use that?
		Of course, here.
		And I said, sure, actually, I'm done with it.
		You'd have it now.
		They went, oh, no, we don't want it now.
		So as I walked away, they go, yeah, that right-winger, Alex Jones, man, he's crazy.
		And I knew when he was staring at me and she was looking at me and kind of giggling and laughing that they were totalitarians that think they're liberal.
		So I turned back and I said, you know who's causing problems in this country?
		It's the new left.
		They're nothing but totalitarians.
		I said, I'm a liberal.
		You're not.
		You people are bullies.
		people have serious problems, but it was like in a movie where I then snapped in my mind and realized that I didn't actually say that to him.
		I was thinking that.
		See, I've gotten to the point where I can control myself and not say it and just walk away because you're not going to help people like that.
unidentified		You legitimately legitimately looked worried right there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There was a look of concern on your face.
unidentified		That is, that is like you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If we had a psychiatrist sitting right next to us, they'd be like, oh, that's paranoid delusions and grandeur.
		We need to get him away.
		We need to get him away from people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He needs to be Section 7 and get fucking right away.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe that's the sort of thing that Steve Pieczenik recognized.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, this guy will be easy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's paranoid delusion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This man is a schizophrenic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How many of his stories that he tells where he tells off people do you think are those fantasies?
		Absolutely.
		As opposed to the reality of him just like, I bet he, I question whether he was actually ever at a gym, quite frankly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At this point, it could just be him laying around in bed, like, man, if I was at a gym and someone was shitty to me, I'd be like, you're not a liberal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm a liberal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that could totally be it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All of this could just be some sort of weird Jacob's ladder fantasy, except he's not really dying, but be that as it may.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, just the line of like, and then they walked away and said, oh, Alex Jones, he's a right-wing nut.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And you're like, they didn't say that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, of course not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We weren't there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can guarantee you they didn't say that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They were people at a gym.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They didn't know you.
		They just were like, oh, yeah, I saw you just got on that machine.
		We do a regular routine here.
		We're going to use it in a minute.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The lady was a personal trainer.
		She clearly works at the gym.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not bad etiquette to be like, oh, you know, we're going to need that machine in a few.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a heads up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know that from the time I spent at a gym.
		There are, that is a polite interaction.
		Now him being like, hey, you can have it now if you want.
		Just, no, no, we don't need it now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not rude either.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a polite interaction.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a lunatic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is, he's really, like, it's easy to say he's crazy, but he's really crazy.
		He's like mentally ill on a literal level.
		This man needs a psychiatrist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's high-functioning enough to like live his life and what have you.
		And he's high-functioning enough to sell weirdo pills and stuff like that.
		But inside, he is cripplingly insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is both of those things simultaneously.
		And that's why I always get kind of bothered when I see the videos that, like, I love Sam Cedar.
		I think the majority report is awesome.
		But a lot of the time when they cover Alex Jones, they deal with it like a, is he crazy or is he manipulative?
		As if they're mutually exclusive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is clearly both.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's, you know, that's why this crazy evil spectrum we always try and apply doesn't really work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not to him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's crazy and evil.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's all the way on both ends.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's creevil.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		It's like you turn both knobs up.
		It's the high cut and the low cut all as high as you can make it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So I'm going to skip this next clip because it's another version of the Halloween story that didn't happen.
		But you can guess from that gym story the kind of delusional bullshit that's in his Halloween story.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm starting to question whether Buckley is even a DJ.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm starting to question whether or not Buckley's even real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know he's real because I've seen him in some videos.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a paid actor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It could be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a hired actor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a Roger Stone prank.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now we get to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Roger Stone is playing a long game.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wanted to mostly focus on Roger Stone because it's what we've been looking for forever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it turns out that we do need to listen to a little bit of Phyllis Schlafly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They have about four minutes of the interview where they're flirting about how much she loves guns, and it's weird.
unidentified		I never, ever use the C-word ever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It has never been more deserved.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hold it until the end of this next clip, and then people will understand why it's appropriate.
phyllis schlafly ▲ ● ▼		But if you teach them how to read, they'll be able to read some of the great books that are written in the English language that talked about the principle of limited government and why freedom is important and important to work for.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just not for women.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you've been fighting this fight for over 50 years.
phyllis schlafly ▲ ● ▼		But my fight is a good example to the grassroots that you can win against overwhelming odds.
		And you know, I have a DVD called Doing the Impossible in which I show all the odds that were against me when I started the fight against the Equal Rights Amendment.
		Everybody was against me.
		The president, the Congress, the press, everybody you can think of.
		Everybody who was important, the organizations and so forth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because they got equal rights within the moment.
phyllis schlafly ▲ ● ▼		Now, people haven't got any fight in it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what is it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to play a greatest hits of Phyllis Schlafly's fucking monstrous behavior?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was against the equal rights thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She is fucking insane.
		That woman has done so much damage.
		She is a true, literal monster.
		Like, it's one of those things where we can prosecute murderers on a small scale, but somebody who has killed as many people as Phyllis Schlafly is untouchable, apparently.
		She is a true murderer.
		For real.
		That woman has led to the deaths of so many women.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Through distrust of medicine, through distrust of...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Through her influence across the fucking conservative lunatic spectrum.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They picked her up and promoted her purely to influence women.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it was a trick of Barry Goldwater, probably.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's fucking evil.
		She is a murderer, and there's no other way to describe it.
		That is what she is.
		And I fucking hate her.
		She's a mess.
		I can't stand that she is allowed to walk free.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think she's dead now, though, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not soon enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the reason I wanted to play that clip just to give everyone a little flavor of, hey, so weird that everyone was against me when I was against the Equal Rights Act.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's fucked up.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But then this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Women shouldn't have equal rights, quote Phyllis Schlafly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, because then what about all this good stuff we have, like being able to be in the home?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah.
		It's like a shitty comics, like, oh, man, I wish I could just stay at home all day.
		Like, fuck you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Your opinion is fine, but you're just, it's fucking terrible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're not recognizing the forced part of it that was really the problem that the Equal Rights Act worked against.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But the reason I needed to keep her interview in is this: Shifting gears into election 2016, what's your expert view on it?
phyllis schlafly ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm kind of hoping that the one guy who could really make a change is Donald Trump.
		He wants to make our country great.
		A lot of these other people have no interest in making our country great.
		And I think he really genuinely does want to make our country great again.
		I think he's got a vision like Ronald Reagan.
		And I wish him well.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I hope he's another Ronald Reagan, but I tell you.
phyllis schlafly ▲ ● ▼		He's not perfect.
phyllis schlafly ▲ ● ▼		Even you are not perfect.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
phyllis schlafly ▲ ● ▼		But anyway, the others, there's something the matter with the others.
phyllis schlafly ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, he's got stuff and courage, and that's helpful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, we see there, Alex refers to Phyllis Schlafly as a living legend.
		He talks about how much she is an influential piece of his conservatism.
		He loves Goldwater as well.
		And so when she comes in and says that she's for Trump, that is not a small thing for him.
		And at the same time, she gives him his deflection.
		He's not perfect, but neither is anybody.
		That is something he will use for the next year of his life.
		So at this point, Alex Jones opens up the phone lines, and he wants to have people call in who have been victims of PC culture on campus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he goes on to say, like, hey, even if you disagree with me, now you're wrong, but you can call in if you want.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, great, great way to host a debate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's going to be awesome.
		He goes on to also talk about how when Starbucks had their, like, let's talk about race on the cups, he's like, they're just trying to stir up racial trouble.
		Man, this country was so much better off.
		We were getting along before Obama came in.
		Like, oh, boy.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not cripplingly racist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They did it so much, and they're still doing it now.
		That idea of like, he wants to make our country great as though that has any meaning.
		They don't talk about how.
		They don't talk about what.
		They don't talk about anything other than, I get the general feeling that he wants to make America great.
		And that's such a perfect way to deny that you're a giant fucking racist.
		It's such a perfect way to deny that you want to kill poor people.
		It's just such a perfect way to encompass all of this right-wing bullshit by only saying, you know, like, I feel like he wants to make America great again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And whatever great is what it means to you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's no meaning to any of this shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For as much as Alex complains about George Orwell, you would think that he would be able to pick this piece up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, you'd think he'd be able to be like, hmm, this might be some sort of double speak.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he doesn't.
		He doesn't.
		He doesn't give a shit.
		So the time has come.
		18 episodes of investigation have been leading us to this point.
		Roger Stone makes his appearance on the Alex Jones show.
		And now we will find out if my prediction was correct that Alex Jones starts supporting Trump as soon as Roger Stone shows up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know my first debate prediction was real bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was pretty bad.
		So before they get into any Trump matters, they want to shit on Hillary a bit.
		Because Roger Stone has a book about Hillary having a war on women.
		And so that's ostensibly the reason he's there.
		But so they start shitting on Hillary a little.
		And this one, this is nuts.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		This is a woman with a volcanic temper, a foul mouth, very short-tempered, very, very greedy.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		This is someone who doesn't have the temperament to be president of the U.S.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, as you know, it's been reported, I mean, from FBI agents and others that work in the White House, that she rolls on the floor and chews carpet.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Only the person I know that does that was Hitler.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is pretty amazing.
		That is pretty amazing.
		Yeah, that's great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, are you saying that we shouldn't have somebody who has a foul mouth, short temper, and is exceptionally greedy in the White House?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you saying that's a bad series of qualities to have in a fucking president?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What you don't understand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you saying that that's not what we fucking need?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What you don't understand is that this is Roger Stone hot dogging.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is him showing off.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's showing off that he can just fucking say whatever he goddamn wants.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it shows how stupid and gullible Alex is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I heard she eats carpet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The FBI has reported that the only other person who's ever eaten carpet is Hitler.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is that even?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It really is amazing.
		I mean, that clip is.
		It's truly amazing.
		So these next clips are essentially Roger Stone having watched Alex Jones' show, knowing what Alex Jones' rebuttals to Trump are, and knocking them down one by one.
		So the first one that Alex Jones always goes into is mob connections and don't trust him, and he's flip-flopped in the past.
		Well, the biggest one is, can we trust him?
		Is he for real?
		Or is this some sort of a joke?
		And here's the answer to that one.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Roger Stone's going to be on the nightly news tonight, getting into even more 7 o'clock Central.
		He was the chairman of Donald Trump's exploratory campaign previously when he thought about running for president.
		He was on the campaign until his book came out and he resigned himself.
		He talked to Trump this morning.
		So maybe we can pick your brain about Trump, but you were telling me off air Trump's for real.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there's no question.
		Look, I don't agree with Trump on everything.
		We've been friends 37 years.
		I very strongly support him for president for one simple reason.
		You can't buy Trump.
		You can't bully Trump.
		He doesn't answer to Wall Street.
		He doesn't answer the lobbyists.
		He doesn't interest in special interests, not the Koch brothers.
		No one.
		Donald Trump is his own man.
		He'd be the first president we've had who would really work solely for the American people.
		And it's that incorruptibility.
		Plus, he's not afraid to take on unpopular incorrect stances.
		He knows there's something hinky about 9-11.
		He knows the immigration system.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know he's suddenly been saying stuff about it, freaking the bushes out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You were telling me that you're educating him.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's a reader.
		The nice thing about Trump is that he's open-minded, and he was astounded by what he learned.
		As you know, Alex, that we had numerous warnings that this was going to happen that went completely unheeded.
		And it's just like the birther question.
		Trump fearlessly brought that into the mainstream.
		You and I knew it, but you couldn't get it on CBS or NBC or CNN or MSNBC.
		Trump is the guy who brought the whole question of Obama's birth and where he was really born into the political mainstream where people could consider it.
		And it's why he zoomed at the head of the polls three years ago.
		He should have challenged Mitt Romney then.
		I was in favor of going then.
		So I remain his strongest supporter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm going to pause the clip there because that's a load of bullshit.
		But you see that the things he's deflecting Alex Jones' concerns about whether he's for real or not, and then adding on all the stuff that he knows Alex is super into, racism, 9-11, immigrant fear, birtherism, all of those things.
		It's just like, oh, no, he's so much more than for real.
		So now we get to the mob question.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because Alex is going to be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You've really put together a murderer's row of things that I would hate today.
		I feel like you curated this episode just to like, can I destroy Jordan's spirit?
		I've made Jordan very angry a lot.
		Have a good show.
		Can I just suck his soul from him and leave him a bitter husk of a man?
		Like the total perspective vortex from Douglas Adams.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, you're looking at this wrong, and I'll explain it a little bit later.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we get to the mob question here.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		A close friend.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What do you expect the Clintons to do to try to come after him?
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're already trying to spread this rumor that Donald was always in bed with organized crime.
		Let me tell you something.
		You cannot get a New Jersey casino control license and hold one for 13 years if you're in bed with the mob.
		It's just not possible.
		They have the most stringent laws.
		They put a proctoscope right up your deriere and they look at every financial transaction in your entire life.
		Donald Trump is clean and they got nothing on him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that the exact opposite of what is true?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Listen, he can't be mobbed up because he works in casinos.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a staggering.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but Alex Jones buys it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't hold a license for 13 years unless you're mobbed up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, but Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the only way to do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex buys it hook, line, and sinker to the point where later in the interview, Alex brings up the mob stuff as if he never believed it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No fucking way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He brings it up like, hey, can you believe that people believe Trump is in the mob connected to the mob?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the course of the interview, you see Alex Jones denying things he's said in the past and acting like, I never, no, no, it's not that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In this next clip, Roger Stone gets demonstrative.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		You know, this country's headed to the toilet.
		You know that.
		Only Trump can save America, in my opinion, because he's independent of the Washington power structure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		Alex Jones says, sure.
		Donald Trump is the only one who can save America.
		Sure.
		Signs off on it.
		Sure.
		Now, here's where the interview gets weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they don't talk about save America from what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's from the immigrants, obviously.
		I mean, I think that's the underlying, or the globalists.
		The globalists and all of their rogue armies of immigrants and shit like that.
		This next one, this next clip, real weird.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this indicates that Roger Stone 100% listens to Alex's show.
		There is no doubt that he's keenly aware of where a lot of his interests lie and maybe the parent company's monetary interests lie.
		This is interesting.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Wait till Trump starts talking about monetary reform because I know his views on monetary reform and the printing press money that we turn.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Can you give us a few little secrets?
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's a hard money man.
		He thinks it's time to look at gold.
		I can tell you that right now.
		Trump understands that the bankers have gone crazy and that the Federal Reserve is not provided for in our government.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, it seems like he is getting more informed all the time when he went after Jeb on 9-11.
		And I was told by another person that knows him that, no, no, he knows what's going on.
		Now you're telling me, and it's on record, used to be his campaign.
		This is wild.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is wild.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're seeing Alex get flipped in real time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is amazing.
		It's hard not to look at Stone do this and be like, nicely done.
		Well played.
		Yeah, exactly.
		There's a certain amount of respect for a guy who can.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Game-recognized game.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		And right on air, too.
		Just like transparently be like, hey, if I just lie to Alex, he's going to believe me.
		Right.
unidentified		As long as Trump's going to bring back the gold standards.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Trump doesn't even know what the fucking Federal Reserve does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He might.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you're right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Trump definitely doesn't know that you want to shut it down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Trump is certainly not going to go back to the gold standard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but you don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But then he would be broke.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know who would, though?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Rand Paul.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So what Roger Stone is basically doing on a lot of levels is taking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's taking all of Rand Paul's positions and saying Trump believes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Taking the things that Alex loves about Rand Paul and applying them to Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump has no interest in the fucking gold standard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has no interest in any of this shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He would go broke.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's not invested in gold.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not a reader.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't give a fuck about 9-11.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		None of this stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He can't save America.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's all just ⁇ it's all just political.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's all just grandstanding of a guy who's saying whatever it is he feels like and then repeating back what people tell him they like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When you have legitimately no ethics and you're a scummy weasel, that's what you do.
		Yeah, so I mean, it's it's so now now the other thing that Alex has always had the bee in his bonnet is that Trump has connections with Hillary Clinton and has said positive things about Hillary Clinton in the past.
		So this comes up in this next clip, but it's in the context of Glenn Beck because Alex is starting to agree with Roger Stone and doesn't want to admit that he has had concerns about that.
		So he says Glenn Beck has had concerns about Donald Trump's connection with Hillary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's too manly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Too manly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just too manly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Too manly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He loves to man up and own his position.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has to pimp out Glenn Beck in order to even raise the question that he wants to talk about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What a manly man.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Most of his work.
		He doesn't like Donald Trump.
		And I understand some of the reasons because of his past political activities, just being a businessman in New York when Hillary was a senator.
		But I mean, so far, he is saying the right things, and he's better than the other candidates.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, look, I like Glenn, and I look forward to asking him what his beef is with Donald Trump.
		People do evolve politically.
		I don't think Trump was all that politically aware or interested when the country was stronger and he was building his business.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is right.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		He's played the game.
		If you're a businessman, if you don't put campaign contributions into the pockets of the politicians, they don't even listen to you.
		It's not that you're buying favors.
		You can't even buy an audience.
		And you have an obligation when you have thousands of people working for you to get your point of view in front of government.
		So Sherry has a relationship.
		And frankly, his attitude was we have a federal limit on donations.
		So the first 10 politicians who walk in, give them the maximum, turn them on their way.
		They're all worthless anyway.
		And now when they show up asking for money, say, oh, I'd love to help you, but I've already hit my legal maximum.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know this.
		If we did have a president that wasn't actively trying to put us into world government and the TPP, it'd be like untying a boat from the dock when the engine's on.
		We are tied up.
		I mean, they're fighting to keep us politically and financially suppressed to control us.
		All you got to do is cut that out and we'll explode.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And what Alex Jones did right there at the end is give Roger Stone more things to tell him Trump is going to do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or in this case, actually, Trump did do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Fucking this is sad.
		This is so sad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is remarkably sad.
		Because Roger Stone's solved.
		Why did he go to their wedding?
		Why did he invite them to his wedding?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Roger Stone is making me feel bad for Alex.
		It's just watching.
		It's like it's watching a man explain Santa Claus to a child.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but you're getting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're like, it just, it's just all imaginary nonsense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're getting a view of how easy that Russian meeting was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Those Russian spies interrogating Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've heard that Putin does bad things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, Putin's fighting the globalists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's defending.
unidentified		Hooray!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everything Putin does is great now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, Alex has very frequently said, I have from secret sources that he's secretly a Christian and is secretly defending Christendom.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How much do you think that comes from spies that he accidentally talks to in fake interviews with RT?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
		It's crazy.
		So we've got one more clip, and this is where I think Roger Stone pulls out the death blow.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		He's sick of the whole political correct agenda.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		He understands that freedom is on the ropes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And he's saying that gun-free zones are places for crazy people to go kill.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		He's carrying.
		Anytime you see him, trust me, brother, he's carrying.
		He's had a concealed carry permit in New York, which they don't give out.
		They're very hard to get.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, and the media acted like it's weird that he'd want to have a gun when he's a target.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		How many death threats do you think he gets a week?
		I mean, it's extraordinary.
		And they ask us not to talk about it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that shows how warped it is.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But he gets a lot of death threats?
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, sure, because he's speaking out on a lot of controversial subjects.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But you do say he's tripled his security.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		He's tripled his security.
		He himself carries.
		Both his sons are gun enthusiasts, very active hunters and gun enthusiasts.
		They both carry.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		You know, they're strong believers in the Second Amendment.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, if he was president, he'd carry.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, Obama's not carrying anything, but maybe a.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Reagan carried.
		Reagan had a holster, you know, on his calf.
		He was carrying about 80% of the time when he was running for president and when he was president.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're crazy if you don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That can't be.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's like, hey, let the cops have guns.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What about us?
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm sure he wishes he was carried when Hinkley tried to take him out or Hinkley and others tried to take him out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Just like the Sirhan-Sirhan crap.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Reagan may have been carrying, but he also probably had a strap on.
		It wasn't a gun.
		It was a strap on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If only RFK had been carrying when Sirhan-Sirhan shot him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And also, Reagan has been fucked in the S. According to that guy whose name I can't remember.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you see it.
		You see it there.
		Like, that's the transformative moment, I believe, the moment where Roger Stone is saying he loves guns.
		He's carrying all the time.
		His sons are big gun supporters.
		You hear Alex say, I love it.
		And then he's like, then we'd have a president who carries.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then he'd just giant boner right there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's the last clip I have.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So it did eventually come back to guns.
		Like, that's where we kind of started with that couple of ideas of, is it racism?
		Is it guns?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the racism's in there, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
		the death blow is guns well i think that's and of course trump isn't carrying No.
		Are you fucking insane?
		How could you possibly believe that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he has the manual dexterity to hold a gun.
		But be that as it may, that's the last clip.
		And at the end of November 9th, Alex does not end up saying, I support Trump or anything like that.
		But you can tell in his tone that he believes everything that Roger Stone is telling him, and this is going to get integrated into his worldview.
		I predict within two days, he is going to come out and say that he supports Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He supports Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm guessing it will be that quick.
		I don't know yet.
		But that, to me, this episode is the end of me being curious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Roger Stone did it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, Roger Stone and Russia did it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		Russia set it up, and then Roger Stone was the point man who knocked it over.
		That's it.
		Roger Stone picked up the spare.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it was a very easy spare.
		That was not a 7-10 split.
		No.
		That was just the one.
		But, I mean, I think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's so transparent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He did it on air.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		Like Roger could have done 20 minutes of research listening to a couple of clips and been like, Alex liked this, this, this, and this a lot.
		So I'm just going to say Trump does all that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And Alex is going to believe me.
unidentified		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's that simple.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because of the groundwork that's been laid by Alex's pro-Russia positions, because of the fellow member of the 45 group, Steve Pieczenik, coming in and feeding Alex the narrative that Trump knows everything.
		He's on the right side of things.
		Alex was primed from a week ago when Pieczenik was on.
		You remember that Steve Pieczenik did say, or Alex said that Steve was asking to come on.
		He was asking to come on as a setup for this prestige, like a week and a half later when Roger Stone shows up mysteriously on his book tour.
		They don't talk about his book much.
		They just talk about how great Trump is.
		My investigation is over, but I'm going to keep going until just to hear the day.
unidentified		Yeah, until you have to have the denouement.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we know what happened now.
		I think you and I and our policy wonks out there know a story that no one else knows.
		There is a massive.
		I don't know what the exact connection with Trump and Russia is.
		I don't know.
		But we know damn well that Alex has been compromised.
		Alex is an asset for Russia.
		And he's a gullible fuck being used by the members of the 45 group.
		The Steve Pachenix, the I don't know the rest of the people who are in it, but Roger Stone for sure.
		He's being used as a puppet on their part in order to get Trump elected, probably serving Russia's interests.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very, very, very clear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Game over.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Congratulations, everybody.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We made it to the end.
		We figured out the knowledge that we needed, and now we're all back to being impotent.
		It is kind of funny that there's a certain amount of silliness to the idea that all of these powerful, secretive, brilliant men have to go to a dumb, paranoid, delusional schizophrenic and do the minimal amount of convincing for them to then get access to millions of people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, it's because they couldn't do it themselves.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones has laid the groundwork of years and years of radicalizing and fringifying his audience to the point where there are millions of people who are up for grabs.
		And it is a brilliant strategic move to tap into that because they're not going to leave you.
		They're brainwashed to a great extent.
		I don't mean that everyone who listens to InfoWars is, but a lot of people, you can see it in the trends of the calls.
		You can see back when Alex was saying that Trump was mobbed up, the callers were saying that.
		When Alex started to say, I like what he's saying, but I don't trust him, every single caller mirrored that.
		I guarantee within a week, everyone is going to be saying, hey, Trump is awesome.
		He is our only hope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he's already had callers trying to convince him that Trump is awesome.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, a couple.
		And then you also have callers that I haven't even, like, I haven't kept in everything just because we don't want to make this a five-hour podcast.
		But there are callers who talk about how great Putin is.
		There are callers who call in and say that Russia is the good guy in Ukraine and Syria.
		It's just, you know, they talk about Rush Limbaugh fans being ditto heads and just signing off on everything Rush Limbaugh believes.
		That's nothing compared to Alex Jones.
		And the reason he's dangerous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He has a smaller but more fervent audience.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't, yeah, definitely smaller, but more fervent.
		Yeah, you're right.
		But the reason it's dangerous is part and parcel of his indoctrination of his audience is convincing them that they're free thinkers.
		Part of it is convincing them that what makes you info warriors is that you resist the brainwashing of the globalists.
		You think for yourself while at the same time falling in line with literally every narrative I'm pushing that happens to largely come from Russian propaganda.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's fucking insane.
		Fucking insane.
		So I was listening back to an old episode of ours, and we've come a long way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was listening back to an old episode where I was making the argument that Alex is not someone who's involved with Russia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's just an idiot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we've come full circle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And all it takes is listening to his goddamn show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not even like we did a shit ton of investigative journalism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I did research into these specific narratives and showing, like, convincing myself, at least, that, like, oh, he's not saying a true thing.
		It's not real.
		What he's complaining about, it has its roots in Russian interests, whether it's destabilizing countries or demonizing immigrants.
		So, I mean, it's not that hard.
		It's very clear.
		And the fact that on this episode, Alex admits that he got grilled by fucking Russian intelligence and didn't do anything about it.
		I mean, that's all you need to know.
		That clip alone could be our investigation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Pretty much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That clip and the Roger Stone interview are all you need.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All the rest of it is just proof.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just more proof.
		It has been a fun journey, though.
		Like, there's been a surprising number of twists and I know we're not done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, with our investigation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or at least the curiosity piece.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there have been a surprising number of twists and turns all along the way where we're both going back and forth on what it is he's doing, what's going on.
		And then the fact that it just fucking funneled in so quickly to, oh, Russians compromised him.
		Roger Stone has made him part of his team.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, Roger Stone, that was my first prediction, but the context surrounding it, I could never have predicted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, this is nuts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So what is it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, so now that we know he's a Russian propaganda front.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is there anything we can do?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, do we do something?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Tell the media, I guess.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I guess.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But here's the thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If any media wants to cover this, you've got fucking 80 hours of proof to go through.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what we can do.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's terrible to imagine they would do their job.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The job they get paid money to do that we're doing for free.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, tell your friends.
		Tell everybody you can.
		I mean, I don't know.
		Does anyone care?
		If you know people who would care, let them know.
		Post about this on Reddits, on subreddits.
		I'm not involved in any of that Reddit world, so if you are, please put this information out there.
		We've demonstrated fairly clearly some really fucked up stuff no one knows.
		And hey, if you can get the word out, get the word out.
		If you can't, I appreciate you listening, and that's enough for me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because what do we want to do?
		Get killed?
		I don't want to get killed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm still, I'm still, I'm kind of cool with being killed.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hope you don't get killed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look, everybody dies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not everybody gets killed because they discovered Russian propaganda.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Discovering Alex Jones is up front.
unidentified		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There are plenty of ways to go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That one's not too bad.
		Ironically, he's a cutout.
		The thing that he accuses Al Gore of being.
		It's insane.
		So I hope you don't die before tonight at 8 p.m. Central when we will be broadcasting live at Twitch TV.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not really ironic.
		It is purely.
		I'll let you get the Entire Republican strategy of doing something, obviously, and then just saying that, no, we're not doing it, they are.
		That's it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's Alex's psychological sort of blueprint.
		It's his fingerprint.
		It's what he does.
		Honestly, if we were looking at it with that knowledge from the beginning, I bet we could have predicted this.
		Possibly.
		But since that sort of revelation and the.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, frankly, the moment we heard him say, people accuse me of being a Russian agent, is like, oh, you're a Russian agent.
unidentified		Like, holy shit.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And now that we have the information that he loves people attacking him and he gets off on it and that he has psychotic breaks where he pretends that he's standing up to people, it really brings into focus a very harrowing picture of an easily compromised man who's suffering so much.
		And I want to be empathic.
		My heart wants to go out to him because it's clear he's in a lot of pain.
		But because the way he expresses his pain hurts millions of people, I don't know.
		We'll be back.
		We'll continue this investigation until we get the Americana 2.0 George Washington reborn shit going.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But if you would like to listen to us tonight on Twitch TV, Twitch.tv.tv slash knowledge.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We will be there discussing modern day Alex Jones.
		We'll be live.
		There's videos.
		You can see how long my hair is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It'll be our first live video podcast.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be wacky.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Starting hopefully at 8 p.m. sharp.
		But we will see.
		And because people might be curious about that, we will not be releasing those episodes as podcasts so as not to overwhelm the iTunes feed.
		But we will be posting them on the Twitch channel.
		They will remain there as archived episodes.
		And I believe I'll be posting them to YouTube.
		So there will be places online that you can get them.
		And if you can't, like, I know we have a lot of listeners in foreign countries.
		And if you can't have access to those things, like those websites are blocked or something like that, let me know.
		Send me an email at knowledgefight at gmail.com, and we'll try and figure something out to send you MP4s or something like that.
		Yep.
		So we'll sort it out.
		And I hope you're interested in that at all.
		Because I've done a lot of work preparing this.
		It'd be real shitty if no one cares.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It would be a bummer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's for sure.
		Almost as much of a bummer as finding out that Alex Jones is this dumb.
		Yeah.
		But our website, if you want to go check it out, knowledgefight.com, got links, got all kinds of things on there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can follow us on Twitter at knowledge at underscore fights.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're on ITunes, where you can subscribe, leave a review of the show so people can find us more easily, so the rest of the world can know that Alex Jones is a compromised asset of a hostile foreign power.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would be a nice thing for people to find out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It would be good if that knowledge was spread far and wide.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah also, you can find us on Facebook.
		You can check us out there.
		Leave a review, send a message.
		I always like to communicate with peeps.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, and what I hear from so many, from so many people who are anti-vaxers.
		You know, a lot of them are Russian propagandists.
		But I'll tell you there's one guy in specific who I don't know if he's a Russian propagandist.
		He might be, he very much might be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who knows?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Again, CIA dentists made him Russian teeth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, we don't know anything about this guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's our next investigation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's part of this investigation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He just hasn't shown up yet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're talking about a man by the name of JR.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to know who shot him no one that's a reference no one shot him that's a reference that nobody should get no one shot him because he's anti-vex uh but there is one there's just one thing that I would want to say to him are you related to Michael Rappaport that's a good question he's not spelled differently spelled differently spelled differently yeah Anyways, the point being, go fuck yourself, John Rappaport.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a first-time caller.
		I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.

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