Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the 17th installment of his investigation into why Alex Jones signed up with Donald Trump back in 2015. The mystery is unraveling a lot differently than expected, and that trend does not stop here. Topics covered today include: What happened to the "real life Crocodile Dundee?" Has Alex ever been in a comic book? Is tap water a "gay bomb?"
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, have novelty beverages in our mouths, and talk about our show. | ||
| Jesus, wow. | ||
| That's a weird start right there. | ||
| I love having novelty beverages in my mouth. | ||
| That's not a bad definition of what we do. | ||
| No, I understand that. | ||
| It just doesn't have a great... | ||
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Anyways, Dan, how much do you know about Alex Jones? | |
| Tons. | ||
| I put zero Alex Jones in my mouth. | ||
| I put him mostly in my ears, if I can be perfectly honest. | ||
| And you shove him down my throat. | ||
| That's what you do. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| And our listeners' throats. | ||
| That is the theme of the show, and we're thrilled to be back with another episode. | ||
| Hope you all had a wonderful Labor Day. | ||
| Shout out. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| We're recording this on Labor Day, which to me is a more important day than 9-11 or Memorial Day or Veterans Day, because this is a day that commemorates... | ||
| All of the thousands of people who were murdered mercilessly at the hand of our oligarchs. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So everybody enjoy, celebrate, and let's start a revolution. | ||
| Fuck it, why not? | ||
| Wait, is that actionable? | ||
| Is that a crime? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Revolution's vague enough. | ||
| Revolution is vague enough. | ||
| Let's start a revolution of everybody coming to our show. | ||
| At North Bar this Saturday. | ||
| Where we will be announcing our candidacy for Supreme Rulers. | ||
| That would be fun. | ||
| This Saturday, the 9th of September at 9pm at North Bar. | ||
| That is this Saturday. | ||
| Yeah, holy shit, it's creeping up. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| We have very little prep time. | ||
| We've prepared almost nothing. | ||
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A lot. | |
| Tons. | ||
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Don't tell them that. | |
| That's true. | ||
| Okay, good point. | ||
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Good point. | |
| Don't snitch to the audience that we don't know what we're doing. | ||
| Don't snitch. | ||
| To be fair, what kind of preparation do you do at all for this show? | ||
| Shut up, Dan. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| I'm putting up flyers. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That's prep. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I contributed my girlfriend making us a poster. | ||
| Thank you to your girlfriend. | ||
| It's almost like, yes, she made an incredible post. | ||
| It's wonderful. | ||
| It's up on the website at this point. | ||
| Yeah, we'll definitely tweet out. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But anyway, we'd love it if you'd come out at 9 o 'clock. | ||
| If you'd like any more details, please feel free to email us at knowledgefight at gmail.com. | ||
| It's also at at North Bar. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| On North. | ||
| North and Western. | ||
| Yep, right around there. | ||
| You have to walk a couple doors down. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| Don't fucking send people over to that hot dog place. | ||
| You have to walk. | ||
| Exactly four doors down. | ||
| Give or take. | ||
| So, let's get into it. | ||
| Today is going to be an investigation episode. | ||
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You forgot! | |
| What are we drinking, Dan? | ||
| Sparkling ice. | ||
| Alright, move on! | ||
| Cherry limeade. | ||
| It's delicious. | ||
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We did it. | |
| So, today we're going to be going back to 2015. | ||
| We're going to be covering the stretch from... | ||
| Let me get the start date here. | ||
| October 16th to October 20... | ||
| Fuck, I don't know. | ||
| 26th, I think? | ||
| I think that's where we end. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| The last five episodes that we're going to be covering... | ||
| Get ready for this level of preparation. | ||
| September 9th at 9... | ||
| The last five episodes that we're covering are just David Knight hosts for a week. | ||
| So we're just going to dismiss them out of hand at the end. | ||
| So the actual stuff we're going to be covering is the 16th to the 22nd of October in 2015. | ||
| But before we do that, here is an Out of Context Drop from Alex Jones. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
| He has gray skin. | ||
| In episode one and was a giant flop. | ||
| It wasn't because he had an African slash Caribbean accent. | ||
| Me likey. | ||
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Oh boy. | |
| Oh boy. | ||
| It was because it was ridiculous. | ||
| It was a stupid character. | ||
| And you aren't going to have Caribbean islanders a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. | ||
| Fair point. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Well, I think I just don't understand my own feelings. | ||
| I hate Jar Jar Binks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And somehow he made me hate Jar Jar Binks less? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What just happened there? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Empathize with the guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
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Is that even a Caribbean accent? | |
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't think so either. | ||
| I think he's wrong on every count other than that Jar Jar Binks sucks. | ||
| I think he's being a little racist. | ||
| He has to be being racist. | ||
| But be that as it may, at one point in this stretch of episodes, we're not going to be going over it, but Alex gets into the hot debate at the time about whether the new Star Wars was anti-white because there was a black character. | ||
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Wait. | |
| Episode 7? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And he's arguing whether or not it's anti-white. | ||
| The trailer had come out, and in very ugly circles online, it had been decided that the movie was anti-white. | ||
| Because there was a black stormtrooper character. | ||
| I hope he never watched Rogue One, because that is Antifa to a key. | ||
| I hope we one day get to that movie review. | ||
| But his statement on it was... | ||
| As is Star Wars. | ||
| Literally every part of Star Wars is Antifa. | ||
| Somehow, our dumbass political system, even the fucking bullshit centrist Democrats, and Trevor Noah can go fuck himself. | ||
| He can go right fuck himself off. | ||
| Don't disagree. | ||
| It is that, it's always the guys who are fighting against fascism are the ones we're fans of, but when people actually fight against fascism, people are like... | ||
| Hold the fucking phone. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You'd be like, hey, why are those guys shooting that thing? | ||
| That's violent. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They're spaceships and shooting at that big orb up there. | ||
| You know what my issue is? | ||
| The Death Star? | ||
| That caused a lot of property damage. | ||
| That's a big issue for me. | ||
| There's no doubt. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, Alex's take on it is that it's not anti-white. | ||
| It might be anti- That's good. | ||
| It might be anti-male. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
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Because why does every show have to have strong women in it? | |
| No, no, no, of course. | ||
| We're back in Ghostbusters territory. | ||
| He's sick of it. | ||
| He's sick of seeing strong female leads forced down his throat. | ||
| I can't think of any reason why. | ||
| He's furious. | ||
| But then he finally lands on, it's not anti-white, we just hate this black guy because he's a bad actor. | ||
| You've watched the trailer! | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Have you even seen Attack the Block? | ||
| He was amazing in that movie! | ||
| He just watched this trailer. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| I fucking hate it. | ||
| Yeah, it's very weird. | ||
| So anyway, that was the Out of Context drop. | ||
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Now Jar Jar Binks, let me get into this. | |
| If Gunkins live underwater, what are they doing fighting on land? | ||
| They're not prepared for that shit. | ||
| Their armies clearly have trained underneath the water. | ||
| How did they have so much effect? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| This is an issue. | ||
| So Alex, mad at Star Wars. | ||
| There's no doubt about that. | ||
| On October 16th, he starts out the show and threw out a whole lot of the show angry at something else that you might deem a piece of nerd culture that might surprise you quite a bit. | ||
| I mentioned the new Captain America who's black, who takes out racist white people who want to have a border because the racist white people are down at the border murdering Hispanic families. | ||
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Yep. | |
| How dare you cowards kill the innocent Hispanic women? | ||
| I, Captain America, will now kill you. | ||
| We support the Constitution in America. | ||
| We are the Death Serpent! | ||
| Remember Red Skull? | ||
| He was Hydra with the Nazis? | ||
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Here is Marvel. | |
| Avengers. | ||
| Here's the issue for everybody. | ||
| This is 004 from, what, two years ago. | ||
| Look who Red Skull has working for him. | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I worked for Red Skull. | ||
| You didn't know I worked for Red Skull against the white Captain America, who's now been killed, of course. | ||
| The white Captain America? | ||
| And we have the black Captain America. | ||
| I would never work against white Captain America. | ||
| It wouldn't be bad if they had a black Captain America. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Yes, you do. | ||
| Black Green Lantern, whatever. | ||
| Yes, you do. | ||
| But see, it has to be a black Captain America. | ||
| We'll put the new article up. | ||
| Because the black Captain America takes on the all-white evil serpent group. | ||
| Yeah, think about that for a second, Alice. | ||
| And the Mexican families beg, please don't kill us, but don't worry. | ||
| Which side would you be on, you fucking moron? | ||
| You saw Don Johnson kill that pregnant Hispanic woman. | ||
| It didn't really happen, but it doesn't matter. | ||
| So, I just want to pause there for a second. | ||
| He does not understand fiction at all! | ||
| No, because he's talking about Don Johnson killing that pregnant lady. | ||
| That's from Machete. | ||
| Yeah, I know! | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| He's furious at fiction stuff because he thinks that other people will think it's real. | ||
| Because his mind can't integrate reality and fiction. | ||
| He thinks everybody's brain works like his. | ||
| Or they're just so stupid that they'll think anything that they see in fiction is a depiction of reality. | ||
| Yeah, I don't understand why he doesn't get that it doesn't matter. | ||
| Like, if you're going to go for pathos, generally, the guy murdering innocent Hispanic women... | ||
| Is the bad guy. | ||
| Generally. | ||
| Regardless of... | ||
| I mean, of course, if you go back through American history, most people think that the Americans are the heroes whenever they murdered innocent Hispanic women. | ||
| Yeah, there is a rich history of that in our country. | ||
| Also, how did he say that sarcastically? | ||
| What part? | ||
| How dare you kill innocent Hispanic women? | ||
| Like, wait. | ||
| If you're saying that sarcastically... | ||
| Don't you kind of think that that's okay? | ||
| I think that that's just him losing control of his tone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I think that what he's trying to get at is, like, it's not real. | ||
| I think it's more of that. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Sure. | ||
| I think it's the how dare you depict white people murdering Hispanic pregnant women at the border in a fictional novelization or movie. | ||
| How dare you do that? | ||
| That's more what he's saying, I think. | ||
| That seems obvious, though. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Look, this is a weird fucking thing, and I don't have a whole lot of it, but throughout this entire episode on the 16th, he spends a combined 35 minutes screaming about Red Skull. | ||
| And how Marvel has put him in the comic books and how it's like, they're just trying to trick everybody. | ||
| They're all dumb. | ||
| They're going to see Alex Jones here working for Red Skull. | ||
| They're going to think, of course he works for Red Skull. | ||
| At the same time as he's working for Putin, the most literal parallel to Red Skull that there is right now. | ||
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He's at very least bolstering Putin. | |
| Yeah, it's very weird. | ||
| Of course he would work for Red Skull. | ||
| Speaking of which, let's get to this next clip where he discusses modern day Red Skull. | ||
| In this clip, he discusses accusations that people are throwing around willy-nilly that Russia has any culpability in Ukraine and Syria. | ||
| Well, Russia didn't start the fight. | ||
| Russia has two international military bases, not 400. | ||
| Russia doesn't put fluoride in their water. | ||
| Russia doesn't force inoculate. | ||
| Russia isn't trying to take my guns. | ||
| Russia isn't saying the Founding Fathers are bad in Marvel Comics. | ||
| As bad as Russia is compared to the absolute traitorous... | ||
| Russia is trying to stop the massive radical Islamic flow into Europe. | ||
| Russia is openly saying George Soros wants to destroy America and Europe. | ||
| Russia has openly banned more than seven groups George Soros funds in Russia who he admits is there to overthrow the government. | ||
| I don't think he did that. | ||
| I mean, how bizarre is that, that a weirdo Nazi collaborator who's almost 90 years old runs MSNBC, the Huffington Post, Media Matters, and scores of other organizations, and all they do all day is attack Alex Jones, Matt Drudge, World Net Daily, Free Speech, Talk Radio, and the Russian government? | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| That last part there? | ||
| Dude, if he doesn't like old... | ||
| White men running networks. | ||
| Wait till he hears about Roger Ailes. | ||
| He's gonna be pissed. | ||
| I think he has mixed feelings about Roger Ailes. | ||
| But that at the end there is really troubling for me. | ||
| That list that he puts together of supposed allies, I guess? | ||
| The people who George Soros and his team are against? | ||
| Matt Drudge, Alex Jones, WorldNetDaily, the Russian government. | ||
| So would you say that he's aligning himself with all three of those other things? | ||
| I think it's very clear. | ||
| I think it's very obvious. | ||
| He's already said, I love Matt Drudge. | ||
| I think he's the coolest guy in the world. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He pimps WorldNetDaily a bunch. | ||
| Loves it. | ||
| Jerome Corsi at this point still writes for WorldNetDaily. | ||
| Wonderful. | ||
| He's deeply involved with them before he makes the jump over to InfoWars. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Lateral move on Corsi's part. | ||
| I think it might be a downgrade. | ||
| Because I think InfoWars is eventually going to go down hard. | ||
| Whereas World Net Daily will fly under the radar, probably. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| But at the same time, this is really troubling. | ||
| This is really fucking awful. | ||
| This whole time, we've been, you know... | ||
| I think we've been wrestling ourselves with the idea of whether or not we can be comfortable saying that Alex Jones really loves Russia probably more than America. | ||
| He loves Russia more than America. | ||
| It's becoming very clear to us. | ||
| It's obvious. | ||
| Look, all Soros does is take down... | ||
| Alex Jones, Matt Drudge, the German government, the Italian fascists, and the Japanese bombers, and it's like, what did we do wrong? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, during World War II, that's him. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| And even if you want to take a step back and be a little bit more cautious, I would say, at this point... | ||
| Because we don't have anything definitive. | ||
| But what you can definitely say, without any exaggeration, is that he is clearly seeing his narratives in Russia. | ||
| He's clearly presenting Russia as this embodiment of his ideas. | ||
| They don't fluoridate the water. | ||
| They love Christianity. | ||
| They don't start wars. | ||
| Keeping the radical Islamists out of Europe. | ||
| Everything he hopes for and screams about. | ||
| Is embodied by Russia. | ||
| How could he not be aligned with them? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| What's interesting about that is he first starts with Russia only has two international bases. | ||
| I think it's four, but yeah. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| At the same time, though, he is saying that Russia is keeping radical Islamists out of Europe, which is like, so you're saying that they keep all of Europe safe? | ||
| Or are you saying that they're keeping European Russia safe. | ||
| Because that seems more like what you're paying attention to. | ||
| I think that might be the case. | ||
| I don't think Russia particularly cares about Portugal. | ||
| I don't think they care. | ||
| I think Alex isn't wrestling with the idea of why do they only have four bases? | ||
| He never recognizes that a lot of the stuff he's like, why is everyone so mean to Russia? | ||
| Because they keep encroaching on their neighbors. | ||
| I can't say any reason. | ||
| They keep annexing shit. | ||
| Nah, nah, nah. | ||
| Like, there's stories that come out pretty frequently about them just taking a farmhouse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is now Russia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Great. | ||
| We now have eight more feet of Russia. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like they're using the same strategy that Israel uses on the West Bank, where it's just like, we live here now, bye! | ||
| It's almost like the strategy we used in our entire history. | ||
| It definitely feels a lot like, are you really going to attack us over eight feet? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| It's a very passive-aggressive way of annexing land. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But I think it gets even worse. | ||
| Here's the next clip that Alex goes on. | ||
| He wants to say more great things about Russia. | ||
| Russia in 1991 turned off its air defenses and stopped doing patrols outside the country. | ||
| Couldn't afford them. | ||
| NATO responded by moving heavy weapons and nuclear weapons up to the border of Russia and by sending in color revolution teams to bring Russia down. | ||
| But George Soros gets up there and he fought against Russia when he was a young man for the Nazis. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| In police and secret police activities. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And now we have to sit here and look at him and lie and say that Russia is attacking Europe. | ||
| I mean, there's so many fun lies just in that 35-second clip. | ||
| Yeah, even his regular narrative about Soros doesn't have him helping invade Russia. | ||
| Yeah, and working for the Nazi secret police. | ||
| Nah, dude. | ||
| Look, your regular lies are lies enough. | ||
| Why are you ramping it up? | ||
| Well, whenever he's called to answer for why he believes that Soros was a Nazi collaborator, the only answer he can ever give is that interview that he did with 60 Minutes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we've gone over that. | ||
| It doesn't say that he was a Nazi collaborator. | ||
| It doesn't even come close to touching on Nazi secret police operations against Russia. | ||
| Right. | ||
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It's fucking bizarre. | |
| This goes back to the gun-free UT, the saying it was Bloomberg-funded, saying it was CIA tactics. | ||
| He's just making this shit up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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There's nothing behind this. | |
| And then the other stuff, I mean, it's just pathetic pandering for Russia. | ||
| And just... | ||
| Twisting a very pro-Russian narrative that doesn't match history. | ||
| And even then, it's such a specific pro-Russian narrative. | ||
| Like, he reveals a lot by knowing exactly. | ||
| 1991, they pulled their stuff away, and you're like, you would never know that unless somebody who wanted that information to go through your mouth told you. | ||
| Because he would never be able to pull anything like that out. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| That's interesting. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Do you think he read anything about that? | ||
| I know that he's read 50 books on the American Civil War. | ||
| He's read 30 books on Lincoln. | ||
| 40 books on Andrew Jackson. | ||
| 57 books on World War II. | ||
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Yep. | |
| He does list off the number of books he's read. | ||
| None on the Cold War. | ||
| We'll get back into that here in a little bit. | ||
| But for now, Alex is done talking geopolitics because the rest of this show gets a little weird. | ||
| The 16th, Alex is in a strange state, and it actually ends up leading to some pretty classic moments. | ||
| But before it does, Alex is still mad about Marvel. | ||
| He's still mad about them depicting him as a servant of Red Skull. | ||
| And so as he's going out to break, he wants to call... | ||
| He would prefer he was a servant of White Skull. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| He calls his audience to action. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| As he's going to break, and it's pretty absurd. | ||
| We're getting more reporters, more camera people, more investigative journalists to cover more, to get in the face of the system more. | ||
| Doing our part. | ||
| Upping our game against the globalists in the face of their counteroffensive. | ||
| We're on the march. | ||
| The empire is on the run. | ||
| Infowarslife.com for the nutraceuticals. | ||
| Infowarsstore.com for the t-shirts, the Hillary for prison, all of it. | ||
| We're in a culture war. | ||
| By the way, we're bringing down McDonald's. | ||
| We're bringing down Monsanto. | ||
| If we start now, it may take a decade. | ||
| I'm on your side with Monsanto. | ||
| We can destroy Disney. | ||
| We must do it. | ||
| They're the enemy. | ||
| No one supports Disney. | ||
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100%. | |
| Absolute boycott. | ||
| They are the enemy. | ||
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Spread the word. | |
| They hate America. | ||
| They hate Christians. | ||
| They hate your family. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Yep, Disney. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Notorious, well... | ||
| They are involved with Marvel. | ||
| Disney, notorious Christian haters. | ||
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Totally. | |
| If you recall, Walt Disney was famous not for his anti-Semitic views. | ||
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No. | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| It was that he hated Christians. | ||
| Well, he hates Christians because he allows people to put dicks in the background of those movies. | ||
| It's cartoons. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's just an extension of Marvel hate at this point. | ||
| Just based on my... | ||
| Oh, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Disney owns Marvel. | ||
| Yeah, my analysis of... | ||
| I'm leaving out a ton of the stuff where he's just rambling about Captain America. | ||
| That's fun, because I actually kind of want to hear more rambling about Captain America. | ||
| I assure you it's not good clip form. | ||
| If you want to go back and listen to this whole episode, thank you. | ||
| That would be what I'd have to do. | ||
| Yeah, no thanks. | ||
| So he's going to boycott McDonald's, Monsanto. | ||
| Monsanto should be destroyed. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Monsanto should be torn apart. | ||
| They're evil. | ||
| They're true evil. | ||
| This is one little piece where we can agree with Alex. | ||
| McDonald's is like a, I would say, 60-40 evil at this point. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I agree. | ||
| I mean, it's not the highest priority in the world. | ||
| No, let's take down food producers first. | ||
| I do love the going out to break where it's like, it's a hard break, so you know you've got that voice. | ||
| It's coming in. | ||
| It's like they can't skip this commercial. | ||
| And so he has to keep talking until the exact moment the feed drops. | ||
| He says, I've got a boycott. | ||
| It might not happen overnight. | ||
| It's going to take a while, but we will take down Disney. | ||
| They hate your family. | ||
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All right. | |
| See you on the other side. | ||
| Then it comes back from commercial. | ||
| He's like, hey, everybody. | ||
| How's it going? | ||
| Just not mad at all. | ||
| Fucking love that fakeness. | ||
| It's so fucking fake. | ||
| Does anybody promote traditional family values more than Disney? | ||
| Well, no, because they promote multiculturalism. | ||
| You have all these different ethnicities of princesses, and, you know, that's not traditional family. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There are a few. | ||
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Fair enough. | |
| I walked down the wrong road there. | ||
| So Alex wants his audience to boycott a bunch of businesses on his behalf. | ||
| So far, let me check my watch. | ||
| They're still in business. | ||
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Oh, is Disney still doing all right? | |
| McDonald's, I went there this morning for breakfast sandwich. | ||
| How did Rogue One work out? | ||
| Was that a pretty big movie? | ||
| I think they made a few bucks. | ||
| They made a few bucks on Rogue One? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But Alex is not the kind of guy, not the sort of demagogue who's going to sit around and issue commands to his people and not do something himself. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| He's got to walk the walk. | ||
| He's about direct action. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| And in this next clip, he explains what he's about to start doing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Humans a disease. | ||
| Humans a parasite. | ||
| Humans a cancer. | ||
| You've heard it. | ||
| They tell you how they hate you all day. | ||
| How they hate me all day. | ||
| How they hate our babies all day. | ||
| And then they sit there and go, but we love all the immigrants and anyone that doesn't want an open border and the border patrol shipping people in and completing the smuggling process. | ||
| It's just outrageous. | ||
| So, you know, I'm going to do this next week. | ||
| Buckley said a day after two. | ||
| I'm going. | ||
| In the evening, 5 o 'clock, 6 o 'clock, and I'm going to meet people in a middle-class neighborhood, but I'm going to go to Tarrytown, a liberal area, and I'm going to knock on 50 doors with a handout, and I'm going to say with a camera, I don't care what they do, hi, I'm a migrant, and I'm going to start trying to push my way in, saying, I want dinner, I want you to give me money. | ||
| I'm not going to threaten them. | ||
| When they say no, I'm going to go, what do you mean? | ||
| Give me your money, I'm a migrant, racist. | ||
| I'm going to do it! | ||
| Because it's total mind control! | ||
| It's crazy! | ||
| I can't go to Guatemala and show up and demand free stuff! | ||
| We're on the march. | ||
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Ah! | |
| This is trainwalking! | ||
| It's a great plan. | ||
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Ah! | |
| I can neither confirm nor deny that he followed through with this plan. | ||
| I'm gonna go with, it's a dumb plan to start with. | ||
| It's not great. | ||
| You would knock on the door and they'd be like... | ||
| Who the fuck are you? | ||
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Also, are you Alex Jones? | |
| Why do you have a camera in my face? | ||
| I'm not threatening you. | ||
| Are you shitting me? | ||
| Look at you. | ||
| Your very existence is a threat. | ||
| You're fucking roided out like crazy. | ||
| Your veins are bulging. | ||
| You're threatening me. | ||
| And you've got a camera and you're like, give me food! | ||
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And you already said you're going to push in through the door. | |
| So that's a B&E. | ||
| Thankfully he doesn't have a concealed carry license. | ||
| I could spend a little while getting into the logic problem of his sort of stunt and what the issues would be there. | ||
| The number of issues that he is wrong on in that one, like, here's what I'm going to do. | ||
| I'm going to knock on doors. | ||
| Already? | ||
| That's wrong. | ||
| If you're going with your metaphor for immigrants, they don't knock on the door. | ||
| They go through an entire process. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, there's so much paperwork. | ||
| There's so much stuff. | ||
| To get food from a neighbor. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like, he should have to bring in, like, different, like, a whole folder. | ||
| With a whole booklet of, like, here's all the shit that I've got. | ||
| Please give me food. | ||
| And then the neighbor would be like, okay, you have filled this out properly. | ||
| However, I am going to need multiple references, and we are going to need a six-month probationary period. | ||
| There's a waiting period for you to get this sandwich. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| From then, it's like, we've got to wait five years before you're capable of getting benefits from your neighbors. | ||
| We will see you in 2020, Alex Jones. | ||
| I predict that the most likely thing that would happen is if he went and knocked on the door and he was like, hey, how's it going? | ||
| They would be like, whoa, you're Alex Jones. | ||
| And then they would reference this next clip. | ||
| And they fly over and spray it with some hallucinogens. | ||
| You can look that up and then hit you with, you know, Jesus and Muhammad fighting with lightsabers. | ||
| Believe me, folks start flipping out. | ||
| By the way, they didn't just test it. | ||
| They sprayed them with gay bombs. | ||
| If you're a new listener, just type in Pentagon-tested gay bomb on Iraq. | ||
| They didn't consider using it. | ||
| They've used it on our troops. | ||
| In Vietnam, they'd spray PCP on the troops, Jacob's Ladder. | ||
| You think PCP, some horse tranquilizer or something? | ||
| They got stuff that'll whack your brain permanently. | ||
| Brain chips in the troops. | ||
| They give the troops... | ||
| Special vaccines that are really nanotech that already re-engineer their brains. | ||
| Now, there it is, the gay bomb. | ||
| Look it up for yourself. | ||
| I mean, this is what they're... | ||
| What do you think tap water is? | ||
| It's a gay bomb, baby. | ||
| Tap water. | ||
| And I'm not saying people naturally have homosexual feelings. | ||
| I'm not even getting into it, quite frankly. | ||
| I mean, give me a break. | ||
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You think I'm shocked by it so I'm up here bashing it because I don't like gay people? | |
| I don't like them putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin' frogs gay! | ||
| Do you understand that? | ||
| I'm sick of being social engineered. | ||
| It's not funny! | ||
| It's pretty funny. | ||
| That's a classic Alex Jones clip. | ||
| Yeah, I remember that one. | ||
| That's one of the big ones. | ||
| I suppose we'll have to redo the intro bit and I'll have to say, All I know about Alex Jones is gay frogs. | ||
| And tap water. | ||
| That's a gay bomb, baby. | ||
| He sounds like me. | ||
| So, the other thing is that the gay bomb, it's a theoretical weapon. | ||
| Widely popularized theoretical weapon. | ||
| Theoretical weapon. | ||
| I believe it factored heavily into a 30 Rock episode, if I recall. | ||
| And the idea of it was that they would drop female hormones or pheromones onto a battlefield that would become associated with other males. | ||
| And you would end up wanting to fuck all the people in war. | ||
| Are we sure our military isn't dumb? | ||
| Well, they're into a lot of, like, theoretical ideas. | ||
| And sometimes these theoretical ideas that don't really work out are leaked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's when things get weird. | ||
| Because this is not something that could successfully be done, I don't believe. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I feel like a lot of DARPA projects are really just, like... | ||
| The writer's room of a sitcom had a couple of days off, and they're like, give us some ideas, shoot some shit around, and they're like, gay bomb? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Let's try it. | ||
| Let's give it a shot. | ||
| So the other thing is that at the end of that, where we just cut this clip, and we'll get right back into it, when he's going, he's banging on his desk like a gorilla, and papers are flying everywhere. | ||
| He's just knocking over all of his stacks of paper. | ||
| And they are all blank. | ||
| I don't want to, the frog's turning gay! | ||
| He's just knocking papers. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| I just dropped a bunch of stuff off the side of here. | ||
| I need those articles. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why? | ||
| You're never going to get to this. | ||
| I've done this in months, and I just cannot handle it anymore. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| Jesus, forgive me. | ||
| He won't. | ||
| Let me just get back to the news. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Children becoming hunchbacks due to addiction to smartphones. | ||
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Again. | |
| Weather outlook. | ||
| Big snow for Northeast. | ||
| Relief of thirsty California. | ||
| Record snow. | ||
| Why are you getting into the weather report? | ||
| Yeah, record snow! | ||
| Record snow. | ||
| We got weather on the nines. | ||
| Look, look. | ||
| Children becoming hunchbacks. | ||
| Phones. | ||
| Record snow. | ||
| This makes perfect sense. | ||
| I would have hated if he had lost that one. | ||
| I just love the powerless moment that he has of like... | ||
| I can't go get those pages I knocked off the table. | ||
| I need those. | ||
| Because I don't have a plan. | ||
| I don't know what I'm doing. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's kind of humanizing and pathetic. | ||
| Every part of him is ultimately pathetic. | ||
| But with the amount of shit I listen to of him and how much I have to engage with this, I really do cherish the moments where he screws things up for himself. | ||
| I love the moments when there's a problem that he has created, which is he's furious about the gay bomb and turning frogs gay. | ||
| Which he isn't really. | ||
| He's probably faking that, but then he starts banging on the table just to make it look like he's even more mad. | ||
| He ends up knocking over all of his headlines, and he has to get someone to help him. | ||
| That's a great little narrative arc. | ||
| It's silly. | ||
| It's the Alex Jones show in a microcosm, really. | ||
| I believe you're correct. | ||
| He gets very angry and fucks shit up for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And him alone. | ||
| And his listeners, of course. | ||
| And we are all, metaphorically, the people who have to pick up that paper. | ||
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Ah, that's a good point. | |
| Because we're inconvenienced by the aftermath of his bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, man, I think we just figured it out. | ||
| More or less. | ||
| The socio-dynamic part of this. | ||
| And all of it is run by Russia. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He does have a Russian working there named Daria that every time he brings her up, he's like, she doesn't work for the government. | ||
| Makes me think she might work for the government. | ||
| She might work for the government, right? | ||
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The amount of times he says, she doesn't work for Putin. | |
| I think you doth protest too much. | ||
| So of course she does, yeah. | ||
| I'm not making that accusation at all. | ||
| Also, if a volleyball flies at her, she moves her hand after it's already gone. | ||
| That's a reverence to Daria! | ||
| So, this next clip, Alex Jones, as we know, is a man who had a couple formative experiences in his life in terms of getting him down this weird right-wing path. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know, Ruby Ridge was big for him. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| The Waco was huge. | ||
| CIA dentists. | ||
| And, of course, the Oklahoma City bombing was a very big thing for him. | ||
| There was a false flag in his conception. | ||
| I've done a bunch of looking into stuff that he says. | ||
| He's not right about a lot of stuff. | ||
| But here's one thing that I also don't think he's right about that is an interesting wrinkle in the Oklahoma City argument that he makes. | ||
| This is not an argument he brings up very often when he talks about Oklahoma City. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| K-bomb? | ||
| K-bomb. | ||
| They're announcing a new Justice Department mega unit with their number one national directive to go after conservatives and veterans and libertarians and gun owners. | ||
| They're announcing all this executive gun grabbing outside of law. | ||
| And they're announcing they believe the Tea Party's going to start blowing stuff up any minute while they persecute people illegally. | ||
| And I just know full well what these scum are going to pull. | ||
| I mean, do people at the Justice Department really want to be involved in more false flags? | ||
| Do you really like blowing up daycare centers and blaming it on the states? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| They were about to have a states' rights movement to get out of the U.N. in globalism in 1994-95. | ||
| Oklahoma was leading a state coalition of 27 states to do it. | ||
| And so they blew up the federal building and blamed it on the patriots. | ||
| And I'm telling you, that's the kind of crap they're going to pull. | ||
| And what does Steven Seagal say? | ||
| It's up on Infowars.com. | ||
| What does Steven Seagal say? | ||
| I believe in the Second Amendment, and I believe a lot of these mass murders going on, that a lot of these are engineered. | ||
| If your go-to first piece of evidence is, what does Steven Seagal say? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| You're in trouble. | ||
| WDSSS! | ||
| That's our new bracelet. | ||
| I would posit that maybe what he's saying is, even someone as dumb as Steven Seagal gets it. | ||
| But I can't imagine that's what he meant. | ||
| No. | ||
| What he means is, what does noted patriot and martial artist hero Steven Seagal say? | ||
| And member of Joe Arpaio's posse. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, don't you remember? | ||
| God, everybody should die! | ||
| It was Seagal... | ||
| We're all... | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| Everyone should die. | ||
| Seagal and Lou Ferrigno were... | ||
| That's not a... | ||
| Okay! | ||
| You were totally cool with it when we discussed it last time. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You thought that was charming. | ||
| Because that's how bad Joe Arpaio is. | ||
| I mean, it is kind of charming as long as Joe Arpaio isn't involved. | ||
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Right. | |
| If you've got a posse together with these assholes. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Here's what I got. | ||
| I got Hulk and the guy from Under Siege 2. Right. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| Nailed it. | ||
| They're going to keep illegal immigrants at bay. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| I got a law enforcement super team. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I would say that this is wildly speculative about the reason for the Oklahoma City bombing. | ||
| Based on everything I can find, it is incorrect. | ||
| And I don't think that blowing up a federal building would stop 27 states getting together to try and get out of the UN or NATO. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| I think that they would be like, hey, we still have, you know, a reasonable argument that we're trying to make. | ||
| I know this is a tragedy and let's deal with this. | ||
| Let's take care of the victims and what have you. | ||
| But hey, we're still on board with this. | ||
| I think that's how it would go if 27 states were banding together. | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| Federal building. | ||
| Also... | ||
| Oklahoma City. | ||
| You know how important Oklahoma City is to all 27 other states, or 26 other states. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| They were the leaders. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I can find very little evidence that this is a reality, but that is not a new experience for me on the Alex Jones program. | ||
| Wait, why do you say very little? | ||
| Does that mean there's more than none? | ||
| I think I found a couple blogs. | ||
| That's not... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, if they don't cite sources, I feel like that's not evidence. | ||
| Yeah, but you know what? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I can find very little corroborated speculation. | ||
| I spent more of my Oklahoma City research time reading, like, court transcripts of some of the people who were inside Elohim City and stuff like that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because I felt like that was more useful. | ||
| Kevin Durant. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Russell Westbrook. | ||
| Way back when that was going on. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They were part of an anti-government... | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I felt like that was a more useful use of my time. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| And did not go too deep into what Oklahoma was doing to get out of the U.N. But the stuff that I read in those transcripts are coming up in a future episode. | ||
| But be that as it may, this next clip is a commercial. | ||
| And it's weird. | ||
| It's gross. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It is one of our favorite things is when Alex Jones takes his supplements on the air. | ||
| We're completely overrun, people. | ||
| But if you wake up to the criminals, it's game over. | ||
| But you've got to break with them. | ||
| I'm going to go to your calls. | ||
| I've got to pay the bills here also. | ||
| Super Mel Vitality is back in. | ||
| In fact, I didn't take any today. | ||
| I probably shouldn't. | ||
| And it's just really hot-powered, concentrated earth. | ||
| That's a bad ad. | ||
| Go research the fact of yourself, InfoWarsLife.com. | ||
| And this is really popular with weightlifters, athletes, bodybuilders. | ||
| Name some. | ||
| Lou Ferrigno? | ||
| Some of the top UFC people take it, but they've already got other sponsors, but they've contacted me and they just want to plug it without even money because it's worked so well for them. | ||
| Name one. | ||
| It's a real deal. | ||
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Ugh. | |
| Ugh! | ||
| Take a couple squirts of that a day, and it'll set you right. | ||
| Yeah, I bet it will. | ||
| The face he's making is terrifying, and he does two squirts of it. | ||
| That's a double dose. | ||
| He's taking way more than he should after he already said, I haven't taken a test. | ||
| Probably shouldn't. | ||
| Then he takes more than the recommended dose. | ||
| That's gross. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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ah! | |
| So it doesn't lead to too much craziness, though. | ||
| Like, in the past, when he's taken Brain Force on the show, he ends up going fucking... | ||
| He gets wild. | ||
| He gets nuts. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It turns out that this puts him in almost a more contemplative mood. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| He doesn't really freak out too much. | ||
| It's not like a train wreck. | ||
| But he... | ||
| You know what's interesting about that? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| That does seem like something that a super male would do. | ||
| Be very calm and stoic? | ||
| Be very contemplative? | ||
| Choose wisdom over abject anger? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now I understand why UFC fighters take it in order to keep themselves level and steady rather than tap into male rage. | ||
| Well, I don't know if it's an advantage in the UFC ring to tell your opponent more than you should, but... | ||
| That seems to be a side effect of super male vitality based on this next clip. | ||
| It takes different strokes for different folks in society and in culture. | ||
| It takes different strokes. | ||
| And I have a lot of intellectuals on and a lot of people that are really into being controlled, being focused. | ||
| But none of them has been as successful as I have warning people, waking people up. | ||
| And I don't do it on purpose. | ||
| I get sick of... | ||
| Sitting here calmly talking about all this, and I blow up every week or so, every two weeks. | ||
| This was a big blow-up today. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| And it's genuine. | ||
| It's therapy for me, because it's better than me doing this when I get home, when my kids are bad or something. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I agree with that last premise, but he basically just admitted that he's... | ||
| It's fake. | ||
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Yep. | |
| The blow-ups are fake. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Once a week, I gotta make sure I blow up. | ||
| I got a quota to reach. | ||
| Right, and it's therapy for me. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Even if that is accurate, then he's a mentally ill person. | ||
| And he should be going to therapy more than once a week. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, clearly. | ||
| I mean, there's no way that that clip isn't damning in illustrating that he knows that what he's doing is fraudulent. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, congratulations. | ||
| If you are timing out your blow-ups, of course you're... | ||
| Well, he's not timing it out. | ||
| It's just the world's bullshit gets to him about once a week. | ||
| That doesn't make any sense. | ||
| No, it does. | ||
| The world's bullshit gets to me once every fucking... | ||
| Right, but you deal with it. | ||
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All of the time. | |
| You deal with it, like everyone does, and then they get really drunk once a week. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| That's his getting really drunk, is screaming about gay frogs. | ||
| Dan, once a week. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That's a fun thought. | ||
| Well, I'm saying most people. | ||
| My psychiatrist would love it if it was only once a week. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But I'm talking about the work a day. | ||
| I'm talking about the middle class, the forgotten man gets drunk once a week. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So this next clip, Alex. | ||
| Remember he was talking about planning some stunts? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He revisits the premise and tries to brainstorm some more stunts he can do. | ||
| I don't think that's a good idea. | ||
| I think he noticed that Joe Biggs going out with the Hillary for Prison shirt is becoming really successful. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so he wants to get into the, like, the jackass stuff. | ||
| Like, go out there with the camera. | ||
| I mean, obviously, if he went to someone's house and was like, I'm a migrant, let me in, he'd also be like... | ||
| InfoWarsStore.com. | ||
| And they'd be like, Halloween isn't for a while, dude. | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So here's brainstorming a couple more stunts. | ||
| I pledge to you that I'm going to start pulling some incredible legal stunts. | ||
| Incredible legal stunts. | ||
| I'm going to go to people's houses. | ||
| I'm going to go to the government. | ||
| I'm going to go to the city council. | ||
| And I'm going to demand to be able to sleep on the dais. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Because I'm a migrant. | ||
| I'm going to go to the mayor's house. | ||
| I'm going to demand to live in his house. | ||
| I mean, this is the kind of stunts we got to do to show how ridiculous these people are. | ||
| I think I'm going to sue the mayor of Austin. | ||
| I like the illegals are doing it. | ||
| They don't let me live in his house. | ||
| I'm serious. | ||
| We got to get in these people's faces and just let them know we're fully aware of their garbage and we're not putting up with it anymore. | ||
| And George Soros and all these people. | ||
| That's a weird non sequitur there at the end. | ||
| And George Soros and all these people. | ||
| All those folks. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| All them folks. | ||
| I don't know if migrants get to sleep on, like, court tables. | ||
| Oh, they do. | ||
| I don't know if that's going to be illustrative of any real points. | ||
| Migrants sleep in the mayor's house? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And they sue if they can't. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| So I think that might... | ||
| I'm going to start pulling legal stunts and then he just lists a bunch of illegal things. | ||
| I feel like that's not a good idea. | ||
| But if it's a stunt, it's legal. | ||
| That's not how that works. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm pretty sure if you were actually a migrant, you would be put in jail for that. | ||
| You go kill somebody, right? | ||
| And you're just like, this is a PR stunt. | ||
| That's a good stunt. | ||
| Yeah, get away with it. | ||
| Scott free. | ||
| If you just kidnap Hillary and put her in a prison, that's a legal stunt, right? | ||
| Yeah, and then, I mean, it's all branded Hillary for prison. | ||
| Hillary is now in prison. | ||
| Hillary in prison. | ||
| Granted, it's not a sanctioned prison, but neither was Joe Arpaio's prison. | ||
| Oh man, I hope he fucking gets shot in the face. | ||
| So, throughout this investigation, I believe that we have started to dip our toe into the water of a new theory that I've been building up in my head. | ||
| And I think Alex Jones is a sovereign citizen. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alright, here we go. | ||
| I think he's that side of conservative. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Which is too far. | ||
| Fucking, look. | ||
| At this point, that's just par for the course for conservative ideology. | ||
| What? | ||
| Sovereign citizens? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't believe so. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| I don't think you know enough about them. | ||
| That's probably true. | ||
| So, in this next clip, which is the last one from October 16th, towards the end of the show... | ||
| He gets a call from a sovereign citizen. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Or at least someone who appears to be a sovereign citizen. | ||
| Now I'm having fun. | ||
| So here is the caller, and let's see how Alex responds. | ||
| Let's go to your calls. | ||
| Jason in Texas. | ||
| Jason, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for calling. | ||
| Hey, Alex. | ||
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Today I wanted to talk about admiralty jurisdiction, and something that most Americans don't actually understand is that the Constitution, Article 3, Section 2, provides for three separate jurisdictions, which are law, equity, and admiralty. | |
| So for listeners that aren't aware, common law or common law is what the nation was founded upon, and it goes back to the Magna Carta. | ||
| And it's really simple. | ||
| Don't injure, don't harm others or their property, and don't use fraud in your contracts. | ||
| Any crimes committed under the common law require there to be a corpus delecti or an injured party. | ||
| Equity is a jurisdiction of contracts and doesn't encompass criminal activities. | ||
| And finally, we have admiralty jurisdiction, which is the law of the military and of the high seas. | ||
| So, for example, a soldier that refuses to peel potatoes when ordered is a criminal act, even if there is no injured party. | ||
| Now, it's under Admiralty jurisdiction that the United States citizens are criminally prosecuted. | ||
| And I normally only operated at sea or under wartime emergencies if you were in the military and did not have a jurisdiction over the general public. | ||
| But through fraud and contract fraud, getting us to opt into Admiralty, it's been brought in now to be one of the dominant forms of law as we move into administrative. | ||
| Yeah, he knows too much about this. | ||
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It's been done with our silent consent. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| And it's the extension of this admiralty jurisdiction to the colonists that was actually one of the prime reasons behind the revolution. | ||
| So almost every court in the United States today, the jurisdiction is assumed. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Number one was them trying to take the guns, but number two was British press gangs grabbing people's 8-, 9-, 10-year-old boys off their front porches or from school or from the fields and taking them to be slaves on British ships. | ||
| What fields? | ||
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No, what you can't do is you can't, a licensed attorney can't actually go into court and make this kind of jurisdictional challenge because they've already consented to being part of the system. | |
| No, I've had, I've not found that. | ||
| I've got really great lawyers and they routinely cite common law precedent and are successful in court. | ||
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And I actually did that pretty recently to get a minor traffic offense thrown out, and that was pretty rewarding. | |
| They might have thrown that out anyway. | ||
| A minor traffic offense? | ||
| Maybe the fucking officer didn't show up for court, and then they throw it out. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Admiralsy! | ||
| I don't buy into this system! | ||
| I want to read to you from the Southern Poverty Law Center their file on the sovereign citizens. | ||
| The contemporary sovereign belief system is based on a decades-old conspiracy theory. | ||
| At some point in history, sovereigns believe the American government, set up by the founding fathers with a legal system the sovereigns refer to as common law, was secretly replaced by a new government system based on admiralty law, the law of the sea and international commerce. | ||
| Under common law, or so they believe... | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Say, the law of the sea. | ||
| The law of the sea. | ||
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The law of the sea shall now be the law of the land. | |
| Under common law, or so they believe, the sovereigns would be free men. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Every judge is aware of secret law. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Yep. | ||
| That's like news radio. | ||
| Dubalcane. | ||
| Dubalcane. | ||
| I immediately find in favor of the defendant. | ||
| And then it goes back to, the rest of this goes into the idea of that whenever you're born, you're a corporate entity. | ||
| Because your name is all capitalized. | ||
| Capital letters. | ||
| And they do that. | ||
| The government does that under admiralty law in order to make you a slave and to create treasury accounts in your name. | ||
| And if you go through a process called redemption where you send in... | ||
| You have to be baptized. | ||
| You send in all of your documents. | ||
| Or whatever, back to the government and renounce your status as a corporate entity or whatever. | ||
| Then you get access to all the money in the treasury. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| And you're free from any of these admiralty laws because you're a sovereign citizen. | ||
| The other thing that's really fucked up is that because they believe in this common law thing that the founders set up, they don't believe in amendments, most of them. | ||
| So they don't believe that slavery is gone. | ||
| That's not great. | ||
| They don't believe that women have the right to vote. | ||
| That's a bummer. | ||
| By corollary, they believe that every election that's been held where women can vote is null and void. | ||
| So they don't believe in the authority of the president. | ||
| I mean, it's just clear that they can't respect the authority of any law enforcement officer, and that's why they end up pulling guns on them a lot. | ||
| You are really selling it to me. | ||
| These people are a mess. | ||
| I'm starting to think maybe they got a point. | ||
| Starting to think they got a point, Dan. | ||
| No, they are really scary as a whole. | ||
| And it's weird to me. | ||
| I love the idea of a government that just has a loophole where it's like, oh man, I hope nobody finds out, otherwise they have access to all the money. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| I don't think all of them believe that, but a large number do. | ||
| I don't want to paint them all with the same brush, because within the Sovereign Citizens, there's a bunch of co-related groups, like the free men on the land. | ||
| It's a wild rabbit hole to go down. | ||
| I'm wondering where we fall on the stupid or insane. | ||
| Like, are these people truly just lunatics or are they just the dumbest people on the Yeah, if you're into reading court documents, you're probably on the insane spectrum. | ||
| Or me, studying for this podcast. | ||
| You're probably on the insane spectrum. | ||
| It's weird to me. | ||
| Not them. | ||
| Because I'm fascinated by fringe groups and stuff like that. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I understand the desperation and the disenfranchisement that would make you want to be free. | ||
| If you don't feel free. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But a lot of their freedom is dependent on everyone else not being free. | ||
| That is a problem. | ||
| But I get spiritually on some level a feeling of like this human existence somehow isn't right. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the fact that it could be channeled into this weird conspiratorial life plan. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I don't support it. | ||
| Life plan is giving them a lot of credit. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| But I get it. | ||
| I don't support it, but I get it. | ||
| The idea that Alex Jones is beholden to some of this, that's weird to me. | ||
| That's not great. | ||
| Because if he believes in all this common law stuff, it's not a far leap to assume that he also believes in the corporate entity stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that he can just go to court and not respect the authority of court. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| It seems very strange to me. | ||
| Which, if you did read about his testimony in his custody trial, you kind of get the feeling that he doesn't respect courts too much. | ||
| Have you no decency? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, I don't know. | ||
| I don't have enough evidence to say that he is full-on a sovereign citizen, but... | ||
| He sure seems conversant in it, to an extent that I am not happy with. | ||
| He's starting to show shades of it, and that's weird. | ||
| So, Jordan? | ||
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Sure. | |
| That's the end of Friday, October 16th. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No show on Saturday. | ||
| We come back on Sunday the 18th. | ||
| No Trump on 16th. | ||
| No. | ||
| None. | ||
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Nothing. | |
| Nothing. | ||
| Oh yeah, I forgot. | ||
| That's the point of this investigation. | ||
| Yeah, I'm running out of... | ||
| You know why? | ||
| I'm starting to think that Trump is... | ||
| Yeah, Trump isn't even important in any of this shit. | ||
| He's a... | ||
| He's a bit player. | ||
| Yeah, it's all about Russia. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's what it's becoming clear. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| That's super weird. | ||
| So, I mean, I feel like we started out the episode with those Russia clips, and I'm like, all right, everyone gets the premise. | ||
| No, this is supposed to be about Trump. | ||
| So on Sunday, Alex Jones has a... | ||
| 1954 all over again! | ||
| We're gonna start the Soviet Union! | ||
| Yeah, it's not far off. | ||
| So Alex on Sunday has a new plan. | ||
| He is going to... | ||
| I think that he started to feel like, I'm not doing a good enough job of being specific. | ||
| I think he had a quiet moment, maybe he was taking a bath or something like that. | ||
| Took two drips of super male vitality, got very contemplative. | ||
| Right, after Friday's show, he's like... | ||
| I know that I'm making a good argument, and everyone loves it, but I fear I'm not being specific enough about what I'm talking about. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he comes in hot. | ||
| Considering the fact that we have no idea what he's talking about. | ||
| Yeah, and we have to do excessive exegesis to try and figure it out. | ||
| So he comes in hot on Sunday with a new plan that is going to make everything clear. | ||
| Starting at the bottom of the hour. | ||
| We're going to start profiling globalists. | ||
| We're going to start profiling, from my research, who I believe is at the very top of the New World Order power structure. | ||
| We're going to look at the owners of the global government. | ||
| There's very few of those, the big top owners. | ||
| Then we're also going to look at the top managers who themselves are billionaires. | ||
| We're going to look at Peter Sutherland today, the former head of Goldman Sachs Europe, the former head of BP Worldwide, the man who told the BBC, quote, EU should undermine national homogeneity. | ||
| This is the guy engineering the radical Islamic influx right now. | ||
| We're going to look in to why he's doing this and what the endgame is to understand who these people are. | ||
| And he looks like a James Bond villain. | ||
| Does he look like a James Bond villain? | ||
| Not really. | ||
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Bald? | |
| One eye missing? | ||
| He's kind of bald. | ||
| He's a little portly, but I think it's kind of petty to make appearance-based complaints about your big supervillains. | ||
| Like, if he is the big bad, why are you starting out by critiquing his appearance? | ||
| Also, Christoph Waltz was a James Bond villain in the most recent one, so he could be very attractive. | ||
| So Alex lists off a number of things that he's been a part of the BP and all this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| You got a decent amount of his resume. | ||
| Before we go any further, I am provisionally on the side of Alex Jones. | ||
| I am... | ||
| Guaranteeing that Peter Sutherland is a monster. | ||
| Uh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he's not great. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| See, there we go. | ||
| All of these, like anyone who- Any billionaire should be, any billionaire is a murderer a million times over. | ||
| Yeah, but that's fine. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Except for maybe our boy Hamdi Ulukaya. | ||
| He seems cool. | ||
| He seems pretty cool. | ||
| Every super rich person is awful until proven otherwise in my book. | ||
| But at the same time, it's not the same as what Alex does. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not fair to conflate healthy distrust of really rich people with... | ||
| They're all a pedophile network who want to bring in migrants to kill Christians and bring back the gold standard? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| You're right. | ||
| I do have the feeling, though, that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. | ||
| Wait, so you want to team up with Alex against these guys? | ||
| So long as it's just me and Alex against billionaires, I'm fine with that. | ||
| There's a lot more trappings. | ||
| Look, the oligarchs need to be taken down. | ||
| Now, here's the other thing, though. | ||
| If Alex is not against, or if Alex is against taking down the Russian oligarchs, then we are not on the same team. | ||
| I don't think he's into that. | ||
| It seems like he should include them in their globalists. | ||
| I don't think he does. | ||
| I don't think he does either. | ||
| Doesn't seem like it. | ||
| I don't think he has any kind of ideological through point other than making up bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, so Alex, like I said, he comes in, he's hot. | ||
| He's going to start doing this in order to build his case. | ||
| We're going to profile these specific globalists. | ||
| I can tell you I've listened to about two weeks more after this episode. | ||
| He never does this again. | ||
| This is a one-off at this point, not a series. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And here's how it goes. | ||
| And can we put on screen, just search the term Peter Sutherland, or I can pull up an article and show you a picture of him myself, and just look at this penguin-esque Creature who looks like a microwaved version of Mini-Me that's been bloating and rotting in the sun. | ||
| Is he talking about Daisy? | ||
| Just the obvious, arrogant, pimpish eyes. | ||
| The pimpish, portly, parasitical phenomenon that we've seen so many times in the PBP class. | ||
| And it is just thoroughly... | ||
| It's disgusting to see this slime sucker going around. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| When I really go after Mr. Sutherland, I shouldn't go after the fact that he looks like a reanimated wart on two legs in a bipedal stance. | ||
| What I'm going to be going after him for is the fact of what he did to Ireland. | ||
| And if you can read his own bio, he's quite proud of it. | ||
| He's the one that got Ireland. | ||
| He's like the first man of Ireland. | ||
| The first pimp. | ||
| The Bill Clinton of Ireland. | ||
| He's the one that pimped him. | ||
| He's the one that put him on the street. | ||
| He's the one that Jack slapped him and they bit down and thanked him for it. | ||
| He's the guy that took Ireland from being the number one economic engine in... | ||
| Europe for 15 years, got them to sign on to the EU, signed them then on to all this debt that they didn't owe, that's come out in the news, 90 plus percent of it, and then now they're totally in shambles imploding as he and others suck them dry. | ||
| But don't worry, he goes to St. Paddy's Day events and wears green hats and has green umbrellas and goes, Lug of the Irish, lucky me gang raping you. | ||
| Hey, the pot of gold be your money. | ||
| I'm going to screw you over. | ||
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I be Peter Sutherland of the New World Order Goldman Sachs. | |
| That is not a good Irish accent. | ||
| No, that's not a good accent. | ||
| He sounds like Jar Jar Binks. | ||
| Me and no likey. | ||
| So, his... | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| There isn't more. | ||
| I don't think Ireland was ever the number one economic driver. | ||
| 15 years running. | ||
| Of anything. | ||
| 15 years running, the greatest economy. | ||
| Ireland isn't even the greatest economic driver of Ireland. | ||
| Of the EU? | ||
| Or the UK? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of issues. | ||
| First of all, Peter Sutherland is from Ireland. | ||
| He is an Irish dude. | ||
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So... | |
| He was born in 1946. | ||
| He's an Irish international businessman and former Attorney General of Ireland. | ||
| He is associated with the Fine Gale Party. | ||
| Oh, look at the gang rape to ya! | ||
| I mean, all Alex has to go on is that he was involved with Ireland becoming part of the EU. | ||
| Yeah, that's what he's saying. | ||
| It's just classic, vague Alex. | ||
| Postulates and nonsense. | ||
| It's all character assassination. | ||
| It's all insulting. | ||
| You're ugly! | ||
| Right. | ||
| What is a reanimated wart? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You need to animate one first. | ||
| Give me... | ||
| When you close your eyes and think reanimated wart, what do you see? | ||
| There's a cartoon wart. | ||
| Or a wart that's been brought to life. | ||
| Then you gotta kill it. | ||
| It's voiced by T.J. Miller in this. | ||
| You gotta kill it then. | ||
| And then it comes back as a zombie. | ||
| Herbert West that shit. | ||
| Reanimate it up. | ||
| Now you've got a dead wart walking. | ||
| See, I immediately went to the zombie form of King Arthur. | ||
| If you recall, he was called Wart as a child. | ||
| I did not recall that. | ||
| I do, because I am insane. | ||
| Well, alright, we both have our insanities. | ||
| Anyways, Sword in the Stone is a great movie. | ||
| Alex is big. | ||
| Disney. | ||
| The plan to profile specific globalists ends up with him yelling about how ugly Peter Sutherland is and then being like, I'm not going to talk about his looks. | ||
| I'm going to talk about what he did to Ireland. | ||
| He made them join the EU. | ||
| He didn't even make them. | ||
| No. | ||
| Just pushed for it. | ||
| He gave them the opportunity. | ||
| He was pushed for it. | ||
| They voted on it. | ||
| He hates every international body. | ||
| And so, of course, it's just like, that's it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| And then he goes to commercial and he comes back with nothing. | ||
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So let me ask you a question. | |
| There's not more than that. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Would he be for the Soviet Union or against it? | ||
| Well, it depends. | ||
| Because that is an international body. | ||
| I think it comes down to one thing. | ||
| Has Alex brushed up on his Russian impression? | ||
| Because... | ||
| If not, he's for it. | ||
| If he has been working on the accent, then he's against it so he can do a fun... | ||
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He has not been working on his Irish accent. | |
| I will tell you that right now. | ||
| Maybe his Russian is better. | ||
| Maybe his Russian is better. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So that is a pathetic showing of a man who did not prepare. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Did not prepare at all. | ||
| That's not even a good Northern Irish accent. | ||
| If you were trying to Belfast, that would be a different story. | ||
| But come on, man. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| So instead... | ||
| Of getting into more detail about Peter Sutherland and what he's done. | ||
| And, like, you were even saying, knowing nothing about the man, there's plenty you could get into about the fact that he was part of Bilderberg. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You could get into what he did there. | ||
| Golden Sex is an... | ||
| Evil organization. | ||
| And if Alex has secret sources and access to all these documents, he should have a dossier worse than that Steele thing. | ||
| A dirty dossier. | ||
| A dirty dossier about Peter Sutherland that he should be able to break down. | ||
| It's Sunday. | ||
| It's a slow news day. | ||
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Right. | |
| He could take this entire two-hour show, because it's a shorter show on Sunday, and spend the entire time breaking down, all right, I hate Peter Sutherland. | ||
| Here's why. | ||
| Instead, he insults his looks and then does an Irish accent and just says he got him into the EU. | ||
| Great. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| You haven't convinced me. | ||
| That's a great profile. | ||
| I would put that in Time Magazine. | ||
| I think he thought that this was going to be huge. | ||
| I think he thought... | ||
| This profiling globalist thing is going to be a hit, and then he got into it. | ||
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And he forgot to do the profile. | |
| That seems like an important piece. | ||
| You know, sometimes you get on stage with a new bit that you're going to do, and you think it's going to kill, and then you get on stage and you realize, I haven't worked this out at all. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I think that's what he did and bailed doing the accent as opposed to break, and then was like, I'm not going to do that again. | ||
| I'm not going to profile more globalists. | ||
| Couldn't even power through it, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And why don't you start with Soros? | ||
| Why not? | ||
| That does make sense for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Although, maybe he's beating the Soros into a dead horse. | ||
| Or he's saving him for sweeps week. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So, instead of talking more about Peter Sutherland, and instead of doing anything productive, Alex Jones gets distracted. | ||
| Because there's a clip. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a clip of Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Talking about how in Australia, they had a gun buyback program that was very successful. | ||
| Right, it was super successful. | ||
| Incredibly so. | ||
| And so this clip starts with... | ||
| And it's made their homicide rate drop. | ||
| It plummeted. | ||
| It really did. | ||
| It was a very successful program. | ||
| Sometimes it's a good idea to look at experiments that other nations have tried and see if they wouldn't be successful in your nation. | ||
| Thus, you know, growing the entire world at the same time. | ||
| It's a good idea. | ||
| You sound dumb. | ||
| I do sound dumb. | ||
| Hillary Clinton's going to sound equally dumb at the beginning of this clip, and then Alex is going to say something really dumb. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I know that I'm saying everyone's dumb, but the first two were jokes. | ||
| He's really dumb. | ||
| This one's real dumb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Evidence supports them that by offering to buy back those guns, they were able to, you know, curtail the... | ||
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Supply and to set a different standard for gun purchases in the future. | |
| And the real Crocodile Dundee, you can look this up in NRA Magazine from about 16 years ago, he wouldn't turn in his five-shot deer rifle that his dad had given him, and they came to his house and gunned him down. | ||
| They murdered him. | ||
| The real Crocodile Dundee looks just like the guy from the movie that was based on a real guy. | ||
| They murdered him. | ||
| No criminal record. | ||
| Lives way out in the countryside. | ||
| They came to his house and gunned him down. | ||
| As he was dying, he shot three of the cops, the gun confiscators. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| Hold on. | ||
| Excuse me, sir. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| Question. | ||
| Follow-up question. | ||
| Alex Jones, follow-up question. | ||
| What did you just say? | ||
| He's actually even wrong. | ||
| He said that he shot three cops. | ||
| But because they're gun grabbers. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're coming to take his gun. | ||
| You gotta gun him down. | ||
| So I have done a lot of research into this. | ||
| Do you mean you Googled it one time? | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I read a bunch of articles about this guy. | ||
| Because I was like, I didn't realize I don't know anything about the real Crocodile Dundee. | ||
| Didn't know there was a real Crocodile Dundee. | ||
| I knew there was a real Crocodile Dundee, and then my interest... | ||
| It ended right there. | ||
| I was like, that was a shitty movie. | ||
| Why am I going to look up more? | ||
| Two, three shitty movies. | ||
| Nah, I don't need to worry about it. | ||
| So the real Crocodile Dundee, it turns out what it was, it was a guy named Rodney Ansell. | ||
| It is kind of disappointing that he didn't try out an Australian accent, though. | ||
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Oi! | |
| There we go. | ||
| Done. | ||
| The Crocodile Dundee character is just a guy from the bush who loves animals and can give you a good one-liner. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's like the mountain man archetype in Australia. | ||
| Rodney Ansell was a guy whose boat crashed. | ||
| And he survived in the wilderness for a couple weeks, like sleeping in a tree to stay away from the crocodiles. | ||
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Cool. | |
| And he had a couple dogs with him and a knife. | ||
| That's not a knife. | ||
| This is a knife. | ||
| All right, Dan. | ||
| Classic stuff. | ||
| All right, Dan. | ||
| So he, you know, it was a cool tale of survival and what have you, but it wasn't the same character as Crocodile Dundee as portrayed by Paul Hogan. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| But tons of the shit was taken from him. | ||
| The real Crocodile Dundee, Rodney Ansell, was the inspiration for these... | ||
| These sort of quirky behaviors. | ||
| Like, he went to a hotel and insisted on sleeping in a sleeping bag. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Like, these sorts of things that make the character what he is are literally ripped from him. | ||
| Little character details that are, you know, distinguishing. | ||
| So I've written this out from... | ||
| That make a fish-out-of-water story delightful. | ||
| So I've written this out from my research, and I'm just going to read this to you about what happened to Rodney Ansah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Rodney Ansell was killed in August of 1999 in a shootout with police 30 miles south of the city of Darwin in Australia. | ||
| He was the inspiration for the Paul Hogan character, but to hear him tell it, he got more or less cut out of the profits of the movie, and that seems to be true. | ||
| That's almost certainly true. | ||
| No, that I buy immediately. | ||
| Some people have said he didn't get paid anything, some people have said he got paid very little, but no matter what, he got fucked. | ||
| Likeness rights are, yeah. | ||
| He got fucked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And so by the early 1990s, he was in a super bad financial situation. | |
| In 1992, he was convicted of stealing cattle and assaulting a rancher. | ||
| So, we've already established that he does have a criminal record at this point. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Alex Jones was lying about that. | ||
| He was cattle rustling. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| But maybe Alex would think that that's law of the land. | ||
| Sovereign citizen. | ||
| So then, on August 2nd, 1999, Ansel took a whole lot of speed. | ||
| Just like Crocodile Dundee. | ||
| Ansel's girlfriend, Sherry Hewson, had gotten it into his head that some variety of a Freemason group had kidnapped their children, and this group had a history of killing young girls and bizarre rituals. | ||
| Did they even have children, first off? | ||
| They had two children, or at least he did. | ||
| Ansel had two children, but they were adults. | ||
| One was 20, one was 18. And so she had gotten into his head that the Illuminati or Freemasons had kidnapped them, and... | ||
| I mean, just think about how similar this is to Alex Jones. | ||
| Wait, so was she fucking with him? | ||
| She was also on speed. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| All right, all right. | ||
| Because that would be an even better story if it was just like... | ||
| A prank? | ||
| Yeah, if it was a stunt. | ||
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Stunt! | |
| It was a stunt! | ||
| It's officially legal. | ||
| That was the whole thing! | ||
| It's a legal stunt! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So... | ||
| I just want to put a pin in it and really emphasize that this idea that Freemasons had kidnapped their children is similar to what Alex Jones says the globalists do. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| Which is interesting to see from a couple of speed heads as opposed to Alex Jones who does his own weird supplements on air. | ||
| A brain force head, if you will. | ||
| So in his speed high, Ansel went off with a gun trying to get his children back. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| That evening he shot two men in Darwin while just shooting at some caravans for reasons that don't seem clear. | ||
| I can't find an explanation for it anyway. | ||
| He's dead, so we don't know exactly why he did this. | ||
| And I will quote now from the newspaper. | ||
| Well, that's not a caravan. | ||
| This is a caravan. | ||
| So quoting from the Herald Sun here, Ansel fired six shots at their caravan on Kentish Road. | ||
| Resident David Hobden jumped in his truck, armed with his double-barrel shotgun, and went to investigate the shootings. | ||
| He lost an eye when Ansel put a bullet through the windscreen of his truck. | ||
| Jesus! | ||
| He ran to alert his neighbor, Brian Williams, who waxed wrath at the state of his mate's face and grabbed a baseball bat. | ||
| Oh, that's why he was suspended from NBC for a while. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Yeah, he lied about this. | ||
| So he grabbed this dude, Brian Williams, grabbed a baseball bat. | ||
| He charged at Ansell, who was trying at that point to steal Mr. Hobden's truck. | ||
| This is already, like, you've just given me eight different bad decisions from everyone involved already. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, quote, I smacked him straight down the forehead. | ||
| And that's when he blew my hand off, Mr. Williams told police. | ||
| That shouldn't be funny, but that's fucking funny. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, that's fucking hilarious. | ||
| He was going on and on about stealing his children and Freemasons and being a baby killer. | ||
| Oh, he was just mad, mate. | ||
| Baby killer. | ||
| That's a quote. | ||
| Baby killer. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Ansel fired shots at the Williams house. | ||
| Then he ran away, his rifle in one hand and Mr. Hobden's shotgun in the other. | ||
| So, not only did he not get his guns taken away by the government, he actually took away other people's guns. | ||
| He was a gun grabber. | ||
| Yeah, gotcha. | ||
| So, at that point, he runs into the bush and tries to hide. | ||
| And at about 10.30 a.m. the next day, the removals worker, I'm not sure what that is, I guess it's probably like a trash person. | ||
| The removals worker. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not sure. | ||
| It's some sort of civic job, though. | ||
|
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I don't know. | |
| A removals worker named Jonathan Anthony's. | ||
| Was leaning on a cop car chatting with the officers when a bullet blew a hole the size of a baseball in his pelvis. | ||
| Jesus! | ||
| So, what you have is Rodney Ansell has been hiding in this woods and he sees a cop car and he shoots this removals worker and just shoots a baseball-sized hole. | ||
| It just explodes him! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's fucked up! | ||
| The details at this point are all murky. | ||
| It's not murky, but who cares? | ||
| He ends up killing a cop. | ||
| Jesus! | ||
| And then they kill him. | ||
| In his just... | ||
| Trying to get out of the woods, I guess? | ||
| He's still probably on a speed high. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And has realized, I just shot a guy's hand off. | ||
| I just shot it, like, their car, their house. | ||
| Fuck, I might as well lean into it. | ||
| Right, and he realizes, like, oh shit, panic. | ||
| And if he still believes the Freemasons have his kids, these cops are probably in on it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so he ends up killing one cop, shooting him in the side, and, like, bleeds out. | ||
| And then they... | ||
| Gun battle persists. | ||
| Dan, do you know what this story has taught me? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| It's important to get rid of regulations that keep mentally ill people from getting guns. | ||
| They should have them. | ||
| Everyone should have guns, Dan. | ||
| Even if he was mentally ill, I think people would still let him buy a gun. | ||
| He's the real Crocodile Dundee. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| He's a celebrity! | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| That would be a very different movie if it ended with Paul Hogan murdering four people and a cop. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Hey, Alex Jones! | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| The other people didn't die. | ||
| Oh, they didn't? | ||
| Just the cop died, from what I can find. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Oh, good. | ||
| One guy lost a hand, one guy lost an eye, and I think that the guy who had a baseball-sized hole in his pelvis, I think he survived, from what I understand. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I don't want to be quoted on it. | ||
| But I know at least he killed that cop, and that's bad enough. | ||
| And then they shot him down in a firefight. | ||
| Alex Jones did not just lie about the real Crocodile Dundee. | ||
| No. | ||
| But in fact, the real Crocodile Dundee is a cop killer who he pretends to hate so long as it is black people. | ||
| And he probably killed that cop with a stolen gun. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And Alex's version of it where they knocked on his door and tried to take his daddy's gun. | ||
| That's such bullshit. | ||
| Where did he even get that story? | ||
| Probably from some weird unsourced blog. | ||
| Probably World Net Daily or something like that. | ||
| One of these dumbass sites that he reads. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But if you look into the reality, he was on speed. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| The coroner, I believe his quote was, there is no doubt that this man was in amphetamine psychosis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That sounds about right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Jesus Christ, man. | ||
| So that's one of the things he does on this show. | ||
| Alex getting stuff wrong is bad, but this is fucking horrific. | ||
| It seems intentionally wrong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It seems like he doesn't care how wrong he is. | ||
| He just doesn't like that his hero... | ||
| Paul Hogan was associated with this Ansel guy. | ||
| I'm sure he opened the paper up the day, 1999, that Ansel gets killed, and he's like, oh, crikey. | ||
| How am I going to spin this? | ||
| All right, all right, Dan. | ||
| All right, Dan. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| All right, let's go to the next clip. | ||
| You're done. | ||
| You're done! | ||
| So in this next clip, we get to open up the door to what's going to be the rest of October 18th. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| No Trump. | ||
| Crikey. | ||
| But, what, it's fine for you? | ||
| You're a fucking globalist with your hypocrisy. | ||
| So, the rest of the show, Alex tries to take phone calls. | ||
| And this first call is a mic down clip because it's fucking hilarious. | ||
| Alex gets super mad at this caller before he even lets him on air, then doesn't listen to the caller, who's being very reasonable, and just freaks out at him. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| He does one of his patented intentional blow-ups just two days after the last one. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Not even a week. | ||
| It's too soon. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| It must mean that this is... | ||
| Mental illness and not intentional performance. | ||
| So here we go. | ||
| The truth is I like our founding fathers. | ||
| A lot of them were Masons. | ||
| That's why they call me a Mason. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I am one. | ||
| I'm Jewish. | ||
| I'm Masonic. | ||
| I'm Mexican. | ||
| I'm black. | ||
| I'm German, which I actually am. | ||
| I'm English, which I mean, just I'm all the bad things. | ||
| Okay? | ||
|
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Boom. | |
| I'm bad. | ||
| You're good. | ||
| You're a winner. | ||
| You're moral. | ||
| You're better than me. | ||
| I'm scum. | ||
| I'm filth. | ||
| I'm trash. | ||
| Good. | ||
| You are a man. | ||
| I am trash. | ||
| You're better than me. | ||
| Now, get out there and take on the globalists right now. | ||
| Do something. | ||
| We're under attack. | ||
| Go ahead, Carl. | ||
| Set me straight. | ||
| Show me what a man you are. | ||
| Set me in line right now. | ||
| Look at all your accomplishments. | ||
| Tell me right now. | ||
|
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Hey, can you hear me? | |
| Yeah, of course I can hear you. | ||
| I just won't tell you. | ||
|
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Yeah, so first off, I'm going to say I'm a fan, and this is not an attack, but... | |
| I'll attack all I want. | ||
| We're under attack. | ||
|
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I'm not attacking you. | |
| Really, I'm not sure or not if you are controlled opposition. | ||
| I am. | ||
| I am. | ||
| You caught me. | ||
| That's why I went to you. | ||
| You just scored a point. | ||
| You just counted coup. | ||
| You just took your first scalp. | ||
| You just took down Alex Jones. | ||
| I knew you'd do that. | ||
| What a big man you are. | ||
| Oh, whoa. | ||
| Yeah, I'm loyal opposition. | ||
| Like I'm a Chinese jet pilot from Mars. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
|
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But, you know, you've got to be paranoid after waking up for the first time that everything coming at you is a lie, so I'm really just questioning everything. | |
| So, you know, I really just had to bring this question to you. | ||
| I know, I know. | ||
| No one ever goes to the actual geoengineering documents or the actual emergency center's documents on the confirmed camps. | ||
|
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I have. | |
| They just keep running around looking for the theory they can't prove. | ||
| I get it. | ||
|
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Well, hear me out. | |
| So the idea is that, like, you're popularized on purpose by the evil society controllers, but the idea of you being like an information gatekeeper... | ||
| That's it. | ||
| So that discovering the truth for the first time will most likely discover it through you and get your version of the truth. | ||
| And thus, the advantage of the gatekeeper being that rookie conspiracy theorists always get your version of the truth first. | ||
| And the great truth you spread on the show, which I love and which got me hooked on you in the first place, it becomes like a spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down, where the medicine is like December 10th. | ||
| Listen, God bless you, and I just want to just congratulate you on discovering the truth, and now tune in to another show, or go off and bash me all day. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| That's all I can say. | ||
| I'm going to continue trying to warn people about the big issues. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And look, the truth is, I'm just sick of that question, like I'm sick of people with a radio on in the background. | ||
| It's like Chinese water torture, where they just drip it and drip it and drip it and drip it until you go crazy. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| I'm starting to think Alex doesn't have very good listening skills. | ||
| No, because that guy, that call could have gone very differently. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, could it have? | ||
| The caller could have just made his very reasonable point, and Alex would be like, I understand where you're coming from, and it's scary to have a world opened up to you where, you know, everything you thought was wrong is true, and what you thought was true is wrong. | ||
| But, hey, I want to assure you that I'm on the right side of this thing. | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| I hate you! | ||
| You think you want to win points against me? | ||
| Go watch another show. | ||
| Right, I mean, that's sad. | ||
| At the same time, I kind of get where he's coming from. | ||
| There are a lot of people that believe he's controlled opposition. | ||
| I don't necessarily think that. | ||
| I mean, he's controlled by Russia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In my experience, I don't... | ||
| In a certain way, that is controlled opposition. | ||
| I don't see him as being what these people, like this caller, say. | ||
| Like, I don't find much credibility in that argument. | ||
| Like, the globalists have set him up as a gatekeeper and what have you. | ||
| Yeah, no, that doesn't make any goddamn sense. | ||
| It doesn't. | ||
| Also, the globalists don't exist, so that's one problem in that theory. | ||
| There is that. | ||
| There's the underlying basis being false anyways. | ||
| But I love that just, like, he gets himself rock hard before he even gets into that call. | ||
| He's chomping at the bit, screaming before he brings him in. | ||
| Yeah, he wanted somebody to... | ||
| I think he has no cardio. | ||
| He's a boxer who would tire out in the second round. | ||
| He's just not worked on his fundamentals. | ||
| He can scream for about two minutes and then he's done. | ||
| Which I still admire. | ||
| I couldn't do that. | ||
| I couldn't scream for two minutes. | ||
| Yeah, I think I'm out. | ||
| You could. | ||
| Oh, yeah, probably. | ||
| I think you could. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| If I were drunk, maybe. | ||
| So that's the first call. | ||
| Which explains why Alex Jones is so good at being drunk on his show. | ||
| That's a fair point. | ||
| So that's the first call. | ||
| The second call goes quite a bit differently. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Very weird, quite a bit differently. | ||
| Ben in Pennsylvania, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding them. | ||
| We'll go to Leah. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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Hey, thanks so much, Alex. | |
| Hey, I'd like to speak very briefly about 9-11. | ||
| I've been back in the news recently in the back and forth between Trump and Bush, and I'll send you on a Sunday broadcast of a very, very short prayer. | ||
| you know Oh, my fucking Christ. | ||
| Die. | ||
| to enable them to release directly to the American people the full and complete text of the illegally and immorally classified and redacted 28 pages of the 9-11 report. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Ha ha ha. | ||
| They just had to call a prey on air for a minute. | ||
| That's a prayer to reveal Saudi Arabia did it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a very strange prayer. | ||
| It's a prayer. | ||
| Lord, Lord, please, please grant me the strength to hate Saudi Arabia as much, even though it technically is our ally. | ||
| We refuse to let everybody know. | ||
| And, like, I mean, the idea that Saudi Arabia was involved or anything like that... | ||
| You could guess that from the fact that everyone was from Saudi Arabia. | ||
| Yeah, you could just be like, oh, I bet it was Saudi Arabia. | ||
| A lot of that stuff's not bombshell type information. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But it is weird that he has... | ||
| What does he think is in the 28 pages? | ||
| The guy who's praying or Alex? | ||
| No, the guy who's praying. | ||
| He thinks it's the United States government who hid the fact that they... | ||
| Yes. | ||
| False-flagged 9-11. | ||
| I believe that... | ||
| Well, I don't know that to be true, but yeah, I bet that's what the caller thinks. | ||
| Probably, probably. | ||
| Yeah, I bet it's like the 28 pages is just all the proof that globalists are real. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| That's all the... | ||
| It's the... | ||
| It's whatever you want it to be. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Because it's classified, you can believe it's the fucking Templars. | ||
| It's the red herring or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The classical... | ||
| The suitcase. | ||
| Yeah, again, if you were the United States government and you had perpetrated 9-11, you wouldn't be like, well... | ||
| We'll write it down, but we better classify these pages. | ||
| Classify the fuck out of this. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Because that'll really make conspiracy theorists not curious. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| They'll really leave us alone if we classify this. | ||
| Yeah, in 70 years when a Freedom of Information Act declassifies it, I'm sure we'll be fine. | ||
| Yeah, undoubtedly. | ||
| I'm sure they'll still trust us. | ||
| So that is about where we drop off with the 18th, the Sunday show. | ||
| Not a lot got done. | ||
| Prayers. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| When that happened, I was like, I don't know what to do. | ||
| I don't know what to do anymore. | ||
| Why would you pray? | ||
| It's Sunday. | ||
| Why does anybody pray? | ||
| I mean, I understand it has a sort of meditative effect. | ||
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Eh. | |
| Eh, there's reasonable reasons to do it. | ||
| Lord, please don't let me get hit by a gay bomb. | ||
| Gay bomb! | ||
| That would really bum me out, Jesus. | ||
| So, October 19th is a boring-ass show, so I don't have any clips of it, but I'll run down a little bit of what happened on there. | ||
| Alex Jones has learned about Homan Square here in Chicago. | ||
| Was it CIA or was it just police dark site? | ||
| It was the police. | ||
| It was just the regular old CPD. | ||
| Alex might think it's CIA. | ||
| But the dark site would torture people. | ||
| Come on, Alex. | ||
| Our police system can be as corrupt and evil as anybody else's. | ||
| Undoubtedly. | ||
| So he's learned about that and he minimizes it by being like, we reported on that a decade ago. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Great. | ||
| He eulogizes Erwin Schiff. | ||
| The father of Peter Schiff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Who is an economist. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Friend. | ||
| The notoriously tax-based prosecution or persecuted man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he goes on a long jag about how he was a great man and they put him in prison because he wouldn't stop selling a book. | ||
| Political prisoner. | ||
| Political prisoner. | ||
| They were crushing our free speech, Dan. | ||
| He declares that he hopes that he has the level of courage that Irwin Schiff does. | ||
| I'm like, okay. | ||
| Great. | ||
| I think I have enough courage not to pay taxes. | ||
| Possibly. | ||
| I don't think it would be too hard. | ||
| No, it's not a courageous act. | ||
| It's kind of a lazy act. | ||
| No, I could just be like, I forgot, guys. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| He goes on a long jag about how psychos like to attack women and children because they grovel more. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| And psychos get more out of that because men are too strong. | ||
| Men are too strong to make scared. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Yeah, so that's not internalized sexism at all. | ||
| Can't get much drenochrome from toxic masculines. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| He also says that he doesn't make his kids do their homework because he encourages them to just be more manipulative, basically. | ||
| Great. | ||
| You just gotta know how to get things out of people. | ||
| That's perfect. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| That should have come up in your fucking... | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| If he hadn't said it on the show, it would have. | ||
| The only thing I regret not pulling, but I felt like it was petty of me to do so, is he goes on a long rant about how some ambassador's daughter is sexually aroused by the idea of killing him because she was on MSNBC and talked about how much she hates Alex Jones. | ||
| And he's just like, look at that, you can tell she's fucking wet. | ||
| I mean, not in those words. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| That's what he's getting at. | ||
| He's like, oh. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| She just wants me. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| The rest of the show is all just super boring. | ||
| There's nothing about Trump. | ||
| But at the end, he has an interview with a guy named Martin Armstrong. | ||
| And he has not come up on the show before, but he is a guy that Alex thinks is a genius. | ||
| So he's an idiot. | ||
| He's created an algorithm, maybe, or a computer program that has accurately predicted a couple of weird stock collapses around the world. | ||
| And economies where the dollar or whatever currency has fallen out, he has predicted a couple things in the past that have been borderline prophetic. | ||
| I don't know if this is true. | ||
| I'm just going on what they say on the show. | ||
| I did not look into it. | ||
| Here's why. | ||
| Because he literally predicts that the economic collapse of the dollar has to happen by March 2016. | ||
| How did it go? | ||
| Did not happen. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| Yep, positive. | ||
| Okay, I'm going to trust you on this one, Dan. | ||
| Also, he talks a bit about the Cokes. | ||
| The Koch brothers? | ||
| Yeah, I hope they die. | ||
| And his take on the Kochs is that... | ||
| They should die. | ||
| There's one little part of things. | ||
| They are not. | ||
| Which makes me think that maybe he has some allegiances to the Kochs. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Or... | ||
| Those fucking libertarian, cocksucking pieces of shit. | ||
| Well, right-wing billionaires he's not so worried about. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| Left-wing billionaires. | ||
| Why would you give a shit that Robert Mercer just fucking ruined the election in Kenya? | ||
| No big fucking deal. | ||
| No big problem that Robert Mercer has officially screwed up three countries now. | ||
| But the Supreme Court in Kenya overturned the election, so that's great. | ||
| That is good news. | ||
| Yeah, so we'll see what happens. | ||
| If only we had a functional fucking Supreme Court, Dan! | ||
| That'd be nice. | ||
| So I do think it's very interesting, the idea that... | ||
| That right-wing, left-wing billionaire thing, because Soros, he says, is literally trying to overthrow other countries, whereas we, I mean, Mercer did. | ||
| Did. | ||
| Did do that. | ||
| Did absolutely do that. | ||
| So, we move on. | ||
| For real, Mercer is a supervillain. | ||
| Like, it's kind of amazing. | ||
| Like, if it weren't for the fact that it was destroying the world, it would be kind of admirable to see one man destroy the world. | ||
| Either way, it's impressive. | ||
| Yeah, it is impressive. | ||
| In as much as it makes an impression. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But be that it may, we gotta get on to the 20th, because the 20th, I think, is... | ||
| I don't even know how to put it strongly enough. | ||
| You know, that is... | ||
| Sorry, I can't get off Mercer for a second. | ||
| I can't get off Mercer for a second. | ||
| It is just like the true end point as Dan takes a sip of wine when I start talking. | ||
| It is kind of the true endpoint of unregulated capitalism that one guy can just sell overthrowing countries. | ||
| Like, that's kind of insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's what happened with all the banana republics that we've gone over in the past. | ||
| Capitalism is an engine to... | ||
| Destroy human life. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And this stuff with Blackwater making the argument, Eric Prince making the argument. | ||
| Yeah, we should privatize the Iraq War. | ||
| Great. | ||
| That's basically the same thing. | ||
| Great. | ||
| That's basically paying to overthrow countries. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| To some extent. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| The world's gonna... | ||
| Starting to think the second sons in Game of Thrones aren't exactly the good guys. | ||
|
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Uh-oh. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So we gotta get to the 20th. | ||
| I wanna talk about Mercer! | ||
| I wanna talk about Game of Thrones! | ||
| All right, the 20th, Dan. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| We have reached a detente. | ||
| We'll compromise and continue on with the show. | ||
| I will offer you, by way of rapprochement, I will offer you this next clip where Alex Jones finally says something about Donald Trump. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Just look at these headlines at Infowars.com. | ||
| Trump, Bush knew in advance 9-11 was coming. | ||
| Well, Trump knows that was in the New York Post. | ||
| The New York Times, just weeks after 9-11, it came out, there was advanced knowledge, and then years later, the memo came out that Condoleezza Rice did have specifics and was told not to fly the day of 9-11. | ||
| The day before, she even called Willie Brown, then mayor of San Francisco, and told him not to fly. | ||
| And then I would hold up the San Francisco Chronicle or the New York Post with headlines, Bush knew. | ||
| And they would have national media claim that I was saying that Bush blew up the towers. | ||
| I don't know what Bush specifically did. | ||
| I know there were bombs in Building 7 and it fell at free-fall speeds, which even NIST has had to admit now after, what was it, eight, nine years of them denying it. | ||
| They started admitting it about five years ago. | ||
| Did they? | ||
| So that's a big deal. | ||
| We've got Donald Trump's comments coming up. | ||
| So that's what he has. | ||
| He's pretty excited that Donald Trump is bringing 9-11 up to insult Jeb Bush. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's such a weird... | ||
| Because that's a signal-to-noise ratio issue with our intelligence system. | ||
| Yeah, we knew... | ||
| Or not we, but our agencies knew that an attack was possible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And... | ||
| Was coming. | ||
| That's why I did the duh sound there. | ||
| But they also knew that 10 million different attacks were possible, and there are so many different threats going on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's hard for... | ||
| And then, you know, intelligence agencies have a weird competition with each other, so they don't necessarily share information. | ||
| Like, there's a whole series of comical errors that led to thousands of people dying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, it's... | ||
| And I suppose somebody should be blamed for that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I think the larger issue is all the war crimes and the lies. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I think that's probably the bigger issue. | ||
| I agree wholeheartedly. | ||
| It sucks that a couple of thousand people died in the United States, but the half a million civilians that died in Iraq, that's probably worse. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| Okay, definitely. | ||
| Just from a mathematical standpoint. | ||
| But it's interesting. | ||
| No talk. | ||
| We've been talking about Trump for a couple days, and now that Trump has tried to cock out Jeb Bush... | ||
| With his 9-11 stuff, Trump doesn't give a fuck about 9-11. | ||
| His response on 9-11 was, now my buildings look bigger. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, he doesn't give a shit at all. | ||
| He's just using it to insult a competitor. | ||
| I loved how much money he donated to all the... | ||
| Wait, no, that was none. | ||
| That was a goose. | ||
| I'm a big fan of him promising to donate a million dollars to the Houston recovery effort. | ||
| Wait, is it not going to be his personal money or fucking really going to happen? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I like how he's going to release his tax returns. | ||
| I don't think he's actually going to do that. | ||
| Wait, no, he said he wasn't going to do that. | ||
| I like how there is a fucking wildfire going on in L.A. right now. | ||
| It's a fucking emergency. | ||
| I like his response to that. | ||
| Wait, no, there was no response. | ||
| You know what I'm a big fan of? | ||
| That he fucking ended DACA. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| It's great that we have two national fucking emergencies going on, but wonderful. | ||
| Kick hundreds of thousands of people out who have done goddamn nothing wrong. | ||
| I fucking love it. | ||
| And then my fucking Christian bullshit family is like, no, this is a good idea. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Fuck this. | ||
| Fuck Trump. | ||
| Anyways. | ||
| You good? | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| I'm still very, very angry about this. | ||
| I was going to see if you could make it to the two-minute point. | ||
| I just don't know how... | ||
| I could, but it's just so expected at this point. | ||
| Like, I'm not at all surprised. | ||
| Yeah, that's the normalization, my man. | ||
| Normalization, baby! | ||
| I'm angry! | ||
| I'm so furious, but it's like, well, of course he's doing this. | ||
| Yeah, all of this repeated bullshit. | ||
| That's an apathy bomb, baby. | ||
| Every fucking time. | ||
| It's just such a normal occurrence now to watch a man be a monster. | ||
| And he does it in such a dumb way that it's almost smokescreen for the monsters who are going to carry this out. | ||
| But... | ||
| He called out Jeb about his brother, and Alex is excited about that. | ||
| All right, well then, let's make that man president. | ||
| He's pretty excited about it. | ||
| I don't know if it's enough to get him on board yet, but he's pretty pumped that a weirdo is talking shit. | ||
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Because most presidential candidates would know that this is... | |
| Alex Jones is pumped that a weirdo is talking shit. | ||
| I can see no parallel there. | ||
| He's thrilled that someone is bringing his world into respectable society. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| As we all were. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Super, super excited about that. | ||
| But he does not stay on that topic very long. | ||
| He has other fish to fry on this October 20th show. | ||
| Namely, what's going on with Hitler? | ||
| Hitler was a bad guy, but... | ||
| He was set up by British intelligence. | ||
| He had a secret treaty with him that's come out with the Deputy Fuhrer, Rudolf Hess. | ||
| That's why he later parachuted into Edward VIII's home estate with the treaty in his hand. | ||
| That's why they locked him up in the Tower of London. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| The Vice President of Germany, the Deputy Fuhrer, parachuted. | ||
| He was a World War I ace. | ||
| Jumped out and skydived into Edward VIII's palace with the treaty, thinking that stunt didn't do anything for him. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He got locked up immediately. | ||
| He actually knocked on the door and was like, I live here now! | ||
| So that's how this stuff works. | ||
| So that is how it works. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| It's not. | ||
| I feel like it's not. | ||
| He is so full of shit. | ||
| Was it Edward VIII? | ||
| No. | ||
| It was one of the royal family who had to leave because he was appeasing Hitler. | ||
| Yeah, I believe that was Edward VIII. | ||
| Yeah, that was Edward VIII. | ||
| I recall that. | ||
| I don't believe he signed a secret treaty. | ||
| Also, Rudolf Hess was going not to meet with him. | ||
| He was going to meet with the Duke of Hamilton. | ||
| Ah, yes. | ||
| Lin-Manuel Miranda. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| This story is super interesting, and I don't know if enough people know about it. | ||
| But Alex Jones is lying his ass off about it. | ||
| So Rudolf Hess was 100% set up. | ||
| There is no doubt about that. | ||
| But he wasn't set up the way Alex thinks. | ||
| Hitler wasn't set up. | ||
| He wasn't. | ||
| Hess was set up. | ||
| In May 1941, Rudolf Hess took a plane and flew into Scotland. | ||
| He was carrying with him a proposal that he intended to deliver to Churchill that he hoped would create a truce between Germany and England. | ||
| He wanted to do this because he knew that Hitler was about to attack the Soviet Union. | ||
| And he thought, boy, this would be real fucking dumb to be fighting in East and West. | ||
| I think that would probably be a disaster. | ||
| So in a certain way, he's smart. | ||
| Yeah, and the initial appearance of it is that he was trying to save Hitler from himself. | ||
| And he was trying to create peace with the West in order to attack the East. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| That's a little bit of a dicey argument. | ||
| Not a good argument. | ||
| Hess was set up by British intelligence for sure. | ||
| Because he got in touch with somebody and they recommended that he reach out to the Duke of Hamilton. | ||
| And so he sent a letter to the Duke of Hamilton intending to try and set up a soiree where the two of them could get a piece of court going and get it to Churchill. | ||
| But the letter that he sent was intercepted by MI6. | ||
| MI5? | ||
| I can't remember the numbers. | ||
| It wasn't Bond, whatever the case is. | ||
| So it gets intercepted by British intelligence, and he doesn't hear back from his contact, the Duke of Hamilton. | ||
| He's like, fuck it, I'm going anyway. | ||
| And we know these things... | ||
| See, now he went from being smart to not being smart. | ||
| Well, we know these things because of letters that he wrote to his wife. | ||
| So a lot of this... | ||
| So now he's double not smart. | ||
| Well, and also he left a letter for Hitler after he left. | ||
| To explain, I'm going to England and this is the reason I'm doing it. | ||
| Dear Hitler, I will miss you so much. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I feel like I must take this journey for both of our best interests. | ||
| It would be true if that was what was said. | ||
| Because, I mean, if we take ethics out of it, take monstrosity out of it. | ||
| Just from a simple strategy point, he could have saved Germany from losing the war. | ||
| It's so wonderful how many horrible dictators wind up destroying themselves. | ||
| Like, that's nice. | ||
| It's reassuring in a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Unfortunately, they commit all them atrocities first. | ||
| There's more to this story. | ||
| So Hess contacted the Duke of Hamilton because someone told him that he was a member of the opposition party in England. | ||
| And that he secretly didn't want to have war with Germany. | ||
| So he thought he would be a sympathetic ear for all this. | ||
| He was not. | ||
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No. | |
| He was absolutely not. | ||
| So Hess goes over. | ||
| He flies. | ||
| And he does parachute out. | ||
| But he lands in his... | ||
| You would have to. | ||
| There's no way that they're letting a German plane land in the UK. | ||
| What are you fucking... | ||
| I'll just land on his base. | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| So the way Alex describes it, it's almost like he parachutes in the window. | ||
| That's not what he did. | ||
| It was on the estate. | ||
| He lands on the guy's property somewhere. | ||
| Triple dumb. | ||
| He's immediately found by landscapers or just people around. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm assuming with the landscaper thing. | ||
| That's like from Hot Shots Part Do. | ||
| Somebody's just... | ||
| Some guy trimming a hedge is like... | ||
| Wait, what the fuck are you doing over there? | ||
| Yeah, we gotta capture you. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| So he's immediately captured and kept as a prisoner of war. | ||
| And, you know, eventually the war ends. | ||
| He's part of the Nuremberg trials. | ||
| And he gets a trial and they decide that based on the position that he had, he absolutely conspired to create a war. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Unlawfully. | ||
| But he... | ||
| Didn't necessarily commit crimes against humanity or any of the camp stuff. | ||
| I don't understand how those charges are different. | ||
| I don't either, but he ended up getting a life sentence instead of death. | ||
| And so he ended up going to the Spandau prison and died in 1980-something at the age of 93. He committed suicide. | ||
| That's too late. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Should have gotten him earlier. | ||
| So that's his story from life to death. | ||
| But publicly... | ||
| When he went in 1941, Hitler was furious about this. | ||
| He took it as a personal betrayal because he was chiefly worried about the idea of what is Japan and Italy going to think if it looks like I... | ||
| Allowed someone to try and make peace with England. | ||
| They're not going to trust me anymore, and our whole alliance is going to break down. | ||
| So he put on this public face of, like, I'm furious at this guy, to the point where he stripped Hess of all of his titles. | ||
| He was the deputy furor, but that wasn't the... | ||
| That's not the vice president, that's like... | ||
| It's third in command. | ||
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It's third? | |
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Yeah, Hermann Göring was second, and then Hess was third. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he stripped him of his office and all of his titles, and the order was given to shoot him on sight. | ||
| And so that made everyone think that Hitler had nothing to do with it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| When in fact... | ||
| So, some documents have come out that suggest that Hitler did know in advance that Hess was going to fly to Scotland in this attempted mission to entice the UK into peace in order to have a bigger war elsewhere. | ||
| But just not with you guys. | ||
| Dear Hess, I wish you the best on this journey. | ||
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I shall miss you every day you're gone. | |
| Truly, we are brothers. | ||
| AH. | ||
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Ah. | |
| So, the idea that Hitler did know about it comes from some documents that were written by Hess's adjudant, which is, I guess, I didn't know this, I guess it's basically just an administrative assistant to military people. | ||
| Yeah, it's a PA. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There's an article from Der Spiegel that talks about this, and these documents are dubious. | ||
| And it's one of the things that Alex Jones is based on. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| That Hitler and Hess probably conspired together to send Hess with a potential peace treaty to try and entice them into not fighting while they took out or tried to take out the Soviet Union. | ||
| And then, of course, aggression would begin again. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| They needed the West not to attack on that front also. | ||
| But here is this from the article in Der Spiegel, which brings us into why Alex Jones might believe some of these narratives. | ||
| At the end of the war, the adjutant became a prisoner of war in the Soviet Union, where he was questioned by Soviet intelligence about the events in the spring of 1941. | ||
| According to historian Ull, I don't have his first name here, I feel shitty. | ||
| Anyway, Ull. | ||
| According to his research, copies of his statements were sent to Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin, Foreign Minister Molotov, and someone else, the head of the intelligence service. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I can't say Russian names on the fly. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| It's unclear whether what these men read was the truth or simply what they wanted Pinch to say. | ||
| That's the adjudant. | ||
| It is noticeable that the adjudant used vocabulary more commonly found in Soviet propaganda. | ||
| The Cold War had already begun, and Pinch stated that the reason he wanted to go public with his information at this particular time was that, quote, reactionary circles in England and America are striving to unleash The adjudant's statement ends with these words. | ||
| The facts I'm reporting confirm that England, by promoting Hitler's aggression against Soviet Russia, acted in accordance with its old principle of using foreign hands to remove the chestnuts from the fire. | ||
| The theory of a Russian-British conspiracy corresponds to the interpretation favored by Stalin. | ||
| Who, until the German invasion of his country in June 22, 1941, had believed that Hitler would not allow a war on two fronts and would seek peace with Britain first. | ||
| But Stalin was wrong. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| So, let's look at this. | ||
| The idea that there was a conspiracy between Germany and England... | ||
| I can't imagine where that would come from. | ||
| Soviet propaganda. | ||
| Where would that come from? | ||
| Soviet propaganda. | ||
| No, I'm going to need more... | ||
| No, never mind. | ||
| That's one of the reasons that... | ||
| If you are at all intelligent, you realize that torture doesn't work unless you want someone to say what you want them to. | ||
| If you want a specific outcome. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| If you want reality, what you do is the same dumb shit that we did with the German scientists after World War II. | ||
| Paperclip. | ||
| Which is you fucking give them whatever they want. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| But the reason that I know we took a little bit of time on this, what seems to be a toss-away narrative on Alex's part, is because, once again, it ties back to the fact that Alex will believe any Russian propaganda. | ||
| He's beholden to Russian propaganda, from the protocols of the Elders of Zion to the idea that Germany and England conspired. | ||
| And that they set up Hitler. | ||
| It is crazy that the beginning of this all goes back to Russian intelligence. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Like, that's bananas to me that a hundred years ago, Russian intelligence made Alex Jones happen. | ||
| Like, that's bananas. | ||
| And I think the fact that we're uncovering this might lead to our death. | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| Quite frankly. | ||
| That's a great way to die. | ||
| Are you shitting me? | ||
| I think our live show might end with us getting murdered. | ||
| Quite frankly. | ||
| Herman Hesse will actually parachute in and murder us. | ||
| I'm fine with Herman Hesse doing it. | ||
| Rudolph Hesse, no. | ||
| Because I have a tattoo of Herman Hassett, one of his books, on my shoulder. | ||
| I know, that's what makes it funny. | ||
| I love the man. | ||
| I'm not sure I love him, but I love some of his works. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I don't know, he might have been a bad dude. | ||
| But anyway, also... | ||
| He broke your heart. | ||
| The more interesting... | ||
| Yeah, I fucking did not like Narcissus and Goldman. | ||
| Not a great book. | ||
| Siddhartha is fine. | ||
| Siddhartha is okay. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| Welcome back to the Knowledge Fight Podcast, where we are now discussing weird literature that we read. | ||
| It's not that weird. | ||
| But at the same time, I love that our book review show would be us agreeing in different tones. | ||
| It's a good book. | ||
| It's a great book. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| So, also, it's just interesting that Alex Jones believes such flimsy shit in order to defend Hitler. | ||
| Hitler, of all people. | ||
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Like, what are you doing? | |
| I mean, it's crazy that Marvel would have him supporting the Red Skull. | ||
| That's the first thing that I think. | ||
| At this point, it just makes more and more sense. | ||
| When I hear him defending Hitler, I think, the Red Skull wasn't that bad. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| Marvel should be offended by... | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| You're actually normalizing Alex Jones by having him support Red Skull. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, the episode goes on, and he has a fairly long interview with a gentleman by the name of Joel Skousen. | ||
| Who is a dick. | ||
| I don't know his credits. | ||
| I don't care to list them off here. | ||
| But one of his primary narratives is that the government straight up did 9-11. | ||
| He doesn't have time for this mealy-mouthed bullshit that Alex was throwing around. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Government. | ||
| All the way. | ||
| That's one of the conspiracy... | ||
| Like, there's one conspiracy theory, and that is that the United States government perpetrated 9-11, that I will never not have a twinge of, like, maybe. | ||
| Like, I don't know what it is about that one in particular, because I don't give a shit about conspiracy theories. | ||
| Like, JFK. | ||
| Like, I don't care. | ||
| Chances are he was killed by... | ||
| That's probably because it was not in your lifetime. | ||
| That's possible, but at the same time, that's the big conspiracy theory. | ||
| That's always going to be that turning point of history of did... | ||
| That's when the globalists were created. | ||
| Well, pretty much. | ||
| Like, did that happen? | ||
| But 9-11 being perpetrated by the U.S. government, it's such a... | ||
| I think it's just a W thing. | ||
| I think it's just like, that's such a George W. Bush move. | ||
| Like, I don't know what it is about W, but it's like, I bet he probably committed that. | ||
| And to be fair, I don't believe that. | ||
| Of course not! | ||
| But it's one of the reasons I don't want to unpack 9-11 stuff too hard on this podcast. | ||
| That's what they want you to think. | ||
| One of our big rules is we're never doing a 9-11 episode. | ||
| There's just too much. | ||
| There's too many theories. | ||
| A lot of them are pretty easy to debunk. | ||
| And some are impossible to debunk. | ||
| And most of them are dumb. | ||
| Right. | ||
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But some of them are just not dumb enough. | |
| I think that's the thing. | ||
| I hate W so much. | ||
| That's the amazing thing about Trump. | ||
| As bad as Trump is... | ||
| W was the worst. | ||
| Like, W has led to more destabilization. | ||
| Give Trump time. | ||
| No, of course. | ||
| If he has two terms, he'll do way worse. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| If he has two terms, it's too late for all of us. | ||
| W had eight years to do a lot of the wack shit that he did. | ||
| W was a true... | ||
| Well, W is probably fine, but Cheney was a true monster. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In the same way that Kiss... | ||
| Yeah, Kissinger was a true monster. | ||
| I mean, don't you think that part of the function of that is that they were good at administrative shit? | ||
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Probably. | |
| Like, the devil is probably a great middle manager, metaphorically. | ||
| I would bet not metaphorically either. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, no, no, I do know what you mean. | ||
| Trump is not going to be able to implement all the evil shit he wants to because he's so bad at paperwork. | ||
| And he's surrounded by idiots. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Unlike... | |
| Unlike W, who had Chaney, and Chaney was an evil monster. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But that's why I have a hard time immediately getting over my emotional reaction to 9-11 conspiracy theories. | ||
| And just missing it whole cloth. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Because if you told me Chaney did anything, regardless of how insane it was, I'd have a twinge of like... | ||
| He probably did. | ||
| There would be that moment. | ||
| I want to take every clip of everything Alex says about the globalists and cut in me saying, Dick Cheney. | ||
| I would be like, eh, it's probably true. | ||
| This makes sense. | ||
| Just for a moment. | ||
| It's not like I believe it. | ||
| It's just like there's always that moment of like, oh, that could have happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Joel Skousen. | ||
| Like, I wouldn't put it past Cheney to have committed 9-11. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm okay with us leaving it there. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's where it ends. | ||
| So, Joel Skousen is on the show, and like I said, he's a dick. | ||
| Right. | ||
| 9-11. | ||
| We're not going to listen to too much of that, but I do want... | ||
| Never forget Joel Skousen. | ||
| I do want to point out that he has... | ||
| Alex just has guests on who believe shit like this. | ||
| Sutherland admits this is world government. | ||
| Well, I think it has to do also with the satanic nature of this conspiracy. | ||
| I mean, clearly this... | ||
| No single person, any mafia, evil, wealthy, powerful person couldn't get this globalist agenda started two or three centuries ago and directed and keep it going past 20 or 30 years. | ||
| It has to be a revelatory, guided conspiracy. | ||
| And I think there's something, a dimension beyond global government in terms of destruction of culture, destruction of Christianity, destruction of religion. | ||
| And the creation of a worldly secular society where there's conflict and hatred. | ||
| So yeah, the devil. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The devil. | ||
| I just wanted to show that like... | ||
| That'd be great if that's how half of our clips ended with just Alex Jones saying some dumb shit and we're like... | ||
| It's the devil! | ||
| And then we move on. | ||
| It's become blasé. | ||
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Oh, is it just the devil? | |
| Boring! | ||
| Another person blaming the devil for shit. | ||
| Do these people actually believe the devil is real? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Do people actually believe the devil is real? | ||
| I think some of these people do. | ||
| It's tough to tell who's authentic and who's doing it for working across purposes, trying to score some other points. | ||
| Alex Jones, obviously, I think his Christianity is an act, and I think he's doing it in order to bolster his white identity beliefs and stuff like that. | ||
| What he believes is entirely... | ||
| Yeah, it's some sort of bizarre. | ||
| In the same way he believes in common law as opposed to law, he believes in common Christianity. | ||
| Some sort of proto-Christianity, perhaps, even. | ||
| He's like some sort of weird spiritualist. | ||
| You know how he doesn't really understand how to tell if something's fake and he's tricked by every single piece of Soviet propaganda? | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's really possible that he read a bunch of the lost books of the Bible and forgotten books of Eden. | ||
| Or any of those gospels that were written as literature back then? | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You know, anyone could just write a book about biblical figures. | ||
| I kind of find it more likely... | ||
| There's hundreds of books. | ||
| There's hundreds of books. | ||
| I find it more likely that he... | ||
| Like, in the same way... | ||
| Like, if you recall, he had the six-hour-long dream. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Oh, that's his religion. | ||
| I find it more likely that he has what he thinks are Revelation-style... | ||
| Dreams. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| That's more likely to me what it is his religion is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that's why his sense of morality is non-existent. | ||
| He believes it's God dictating it, but it's really whatever he in his subconscious want to will. | ||
| It's whatever he wants to justify whatever it is he says. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| His prejudices are his religion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In the same way that most people's are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's not... | ||
| Like, unique to him. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So Joel Skousen also is like that, and he's not thrilled with Muslims in general. | ||
| Oh, what? | ||
| And so Alex actually has this to say. | ||
| He has this to say in this clip. | ||
| And again, the Muslims I went to high school with and college with were professionals. | ||
| Their parents were home builders, engineers. | ||
| They were pretty nice people. | ||
| I liked them. | ||
| But the new influxes are poor. | ||
| They are not assimilating. | ||
| They're very arrogant. | ||
| Instead of being like, hey, I'm embarrassed and I'm here getting stuff free, it's a very chest-out, face-out, you-better-watch-it attitude that the left is instilling in them very, very destructive. | ||
| And then the left loves all this when it should be totally incompatible with their whole lifestyle of, we're going to teach your five-year-olds how to have gay sex. | ||
| Well, the Muslims would chop their heads off for that. | ||
| But they're very angry as well. | ||
| You see that in every video in Europe, just the anger and the hatred against Western society because you don't give us enough fast enough. | ||
| Ah, they don't give enough. | ||
| Yeah, you never see anger in a Western society. | ||
| Certainly not on this show. | ||
| You never see anybody screaming. | ||
| That shit drives me insane. | ||
| I noticed from your body language. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| Calm it down. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
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I understand, but make your point. | |
| Right. | ||
| The good ones. | ||
| Like, they're fucking people. | ||
| Like, every fucking buddy else. | ||
| And if you didn't sit in your tiny little spot only ever interacting with white people... | ||
| It drives me insane that there's always that fucking story. | ||
| The news articles you read about Trump cities who are like, wait a second, the guy we know is gonna be deported? | ||
| I didn't realize that was a possibility, and that's because they're fucking stupid. | ||
| Every single fucking one of these people is fucking dumb, and I'm done with this shit, and I don't want it! | ||
| Here's what's fascinating about... | ||
| What all of these people do is they resist the urge to commit a composition fallacy while at the same time committing a composition fallacy. | ||
| So essentially what that is is you take a single example and universalize it to a group. | ||
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Right. | |
| So if I were to, I don't know, talk about you, I would say guys with visible tattoos scream a lot. | ||
| And that would be wrong. | ||
| That's offensive to me, personally. | ||
| There's one example. | ||
| A lot? | ||
| I think I have hours of evidence. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| But, like, that is wrong to do, because there's nothing intrinsic about having visible tattoos that would make one want to scream, or more likely to scream. | ||
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Of course. | |
| So, the composition fallacy they refuse to make is, I know a good Muslim. | ||
| Therefore, all Muslims are good. | ||
| But they do still make it with the I'm scared of that Muslim. | ||
| So I'm scared of all Muslims. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's fascinating to me because on the one hand, good. | ||
| I mean, you shouldn't. | ||
| You have an appropriate skepticism in a certain extent and a completely inappropriate and destructive... | ||
| Murderous logical fallacy in the other. | ||
| Right, and it indicates that you're not operating from a place of reason or logic. | ||
| You're operating from visceral experience, but you're trying to present it as something that's rational, reasonable, and it's just not. | ||
| It comes from... | ||
| I don't know, childhood fears, propaganda that you've taken in, all this stuff. | ||
| My dad sends me articles from The Spectator and National Review, which is just this. | ||
| It's the exact same shit Alex Jones yells about, but wrapped up in this pseudo-intellectual bullshit. | ||
| It's pathetic to see somebody... | ||
| It's like... | ||
| It's like seeing an ape learn how to use a tool. | ||
| That's not pathetic, that's glorious. | ||
| I know, it is, but it's like, no, you're still, well, I suppose, yeah, I suppose it's something that is really, really unsophisticated, learning how to use language in such a way as to... | ||
| Masquerade as something that is researched. | ||
| But at the same time, the National Review isn't making millions of dollars selling disaster supplies. | ||
| So maybe it's Alex who knows how to use a tool. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| Maybe it's the National Review that's dumb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But anyway, I have this next clip. | ||
| They're catering to a smaller and smaller part of the GOP, which is people who think they care about being smart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this next clip I have, and I'm including as a technicality. | ||
| This is just every time this comes up, we must point it out. | ||
| Also, was Oregon a false flag like Newtown? | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| Dan, what was in Oregon? | ||
| Oregon was that shooting that happened like a couple weeks back from where we are in the timeline. | ||
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Oh, yeah? | |
| And Newtown was Sandy Hook. | ||
| Oh, was it? | ||
| That Alex claims he did. | ||
| Was it also a false flag? | ||
| No. | ||
| Nope, it was not. | ||
| No, it wasn't a false flag? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| But Alex Jones denies that he ever said that. | ||
| He just had debates. | ||
| But it seems like every time it comes up... | ||
| Was it a false flag like Newtown suggests it being a false flag is still up in the air, whereas Newtown being a false flag is decided. | ||
| That's called... | ||
| Dumb. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So the other thing, the reason that he brings that up as a speculation... | ||
| Is because we are about to meet Steve Pachanik. | ||
| Steve Pachenik is a guest on this episode. | ||
| No. | ||
| Dr. Steve Pachenik. | ||
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No. | |
| And what I learned is that he's actually been coming on the show for a very long time. | ||
| No. | ||
| But he has not been on in a while, and it's clear that he's come on because he needs Alex Jones to get on board with the narrative, and he needs to do it quick. | ||
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Okay. | |
| He does not have time to fuck around and try and coach Alex behind the scenes. | ||
| He has to come on the show and reveal some information. | ||
| And get it done. | ||
| And pray that Alex gets on board, because otherwise... | ||
| Whatever he's working towards isn't going to work out. | ||
| We're going to listen to some clips of Steve. | ||
| We'll deal with each one along the way. | ||
| But there's a couple of things that I need to point out ahead of time that are very important for you to listen for as we go along. | ||
| We talked about this already. | ||
| Steve Pachanek is in PSYOPs. | ||
| He is a psych warfare guy. | ||
| So you can trust what he says. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's a doctor. | ||
| He is, of psych warfare. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like Dr. Group, in such a way as you can trust everything that he says. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Exactly like Dr. Group, he tells the truth all the time. | ||
| Never does he try and manipulate people in order to sell a certain idea. | ||
| I think Dr. Group is a little less manipulative. | ||
| And Steve Pchenik is way smarter, and I think he is deploying psychological warfare. | ||
| And one of the reasons that I think that is, listen to how many times throughout the clips that we're going to be listening to, he intentionally flatters Alex. | ||
| And basically tells him that he is one of the reasons that a revolution could be possible. | ||
| He completely, in the same way... | ||
| Is this where we get the counter-coup? | ||
| Oh, we're gonna get to it. | ||
| Oh, we're getting the counter-coup now! | ||
| Actually, not really, because the stuff about Hillary's emails hasn't fully come out yet, and that is when Steve Pchenik... | ||
| That's when the counter-coup starts. | ||
| That's when he's going to adjust the narrative that he starts on this episode. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He has some really fucked-up things to say, but at the same time, listen for the flattery, because that is psych warfare. | ||
| That is manipulating Alex exactly how he knows Alex is vulnerable. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, absolutely. | ||
| Dan, I feel like you do a great job at curating all of these clips. | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| You got my psych profile way wrong. | ||
| So in this first clip of Steve, he admits that he's in psych warfare. | ||
| Let me repeat that again. | ||
| I work in intelligence. | ||
| I ran psyops operations. | ||
| I work very closely with the Bushes. | ||
| I know Roger Ailes of Fox. | ||
| So I know exactly what they're trying to cover up and what they're doing. | ||
| It is not working. | ||
| Thanks to you, Alex, and thanks to the American public, they're falling apart. | ||
| And as long as Jeb Bush is there, the easier it is for me to attack them and the United States to attack Jeb and the Bush family in total. | ||
| So this is the beginning of his narrative, and that is that it's all about attacking Jeb, because the Bush crime family must pay for committing 9-11. | ||
| Here's a quick question that I have, especially about Pachanek. | ||
| What, or not especially, exactly about Pachanek. | ||
| What psyops did he run? | ||
| It's never really clear. | ||
| So... | ||
| He was deeply involved in a lot of stuff, apparently. | ||
| He's not like Jerome Corsi. | ||
| Do we have any evidence, though? | ||
| I don't, but I also have not dug too deep into it. | ||
| Because we don't want to die before September 9th at 9pm. | ||
| I'm of two minds about it. | ||
| I think he legit was involved in some stuff. | ||
| But I also think that he no longer really is. | ||
| Of course he's not, if he's going on Infowars. | ||
| But I also think that... | ||
| The stuff that he's going to end up talking about is horseshit. | ||
| Because if he was really doing these things, he would not go on InfoWars and jeopardize them by blabbing. | ||
| At the same time, though, if you are doing those things, InfoWars is a great place to go on in order to... | ||
| No. | ||
| No, you disagree. | ||
| Strongly. | ||
| Because he's going to describe various psyops that he's engaged in. | ||
| And I think the PSYOP is on Alex's audience. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't think the things that he claims are actually the things he's doing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The end goal is get Alex Jones's audience on the side I want them on, which is Donald Trump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are you... | ||
| Against Jeb Bush. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Are you giving him too much credit? | ||
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No. | |
| Anytime somebody goes on Infowars, I feel like they get minus 10 points in credit. | ||
| Oh, I mean, he does too. | ||
| In regards to anything. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
| Yeah, he's docked. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's docked some points. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But I think the points I'm docking him are the, he's not really doing the things behind the scenes that he claims to be doing. | ||
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Right. | |
| I think he's still playing an incredible strategic game. | ||
| And you'll see as these clips go on, just keep it in your head that the end goal isn't what he says it is. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| It is to manipulate Alex to become a puppet for him. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Or to become a puppet for the consortium. | ||
| That I believe is behind the scenes of various interested parties. | ||
| Perhaps the thing that Roger Stone has discussed, the 45 group, the secret organization of Trump supporters that apparently meets and talks about what they need to do. | ||
| Yeah, but they just kind of hang out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In Roger Stone's summary, we just get together and we're like, we love Trump, right? | ||
| That's pretty much it. | ||
| That's pretty much what they do. | ||
| Right, but even still. | ||
| I think that a bunch of dudes getting together and talking about how much they love Trump could have a bunch of guys who, you know, are maybe strategic in nature and they're like, okay, here's what we each can do with our skill set. | ||
| And it turns out most of it is manipulate Alex Jones. | ||
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Right. | |
| I do think that it's so fascinating. | ||
| This dawned on me today because Roger Stone isn't around yet. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But we know he will be eventually. | ||
| It's fascinating to me that Alex Jones is so stupid that he teams up with a guy who has admitted that he runs psych warfare campaigns, but assures him... | ||
| I'm not doing it to you. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And the world's most notorious rat fucker in terms of Roger Stone. | |
| The dirty trick master and a psych warfare guy are the people. | ||
| Alex Jones is just a dumbass who gets tricked by propaganda and screams a lot. | ||
| I can't believe... | ||
| Well, I can believe when you phrase it that way. | ||
| But it's fascinating to me that his team are legitimate worm-tongued dudes. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| And he thinks that's totally fine. | ||
| These are the guys I'm going to get in bed with. | ||
| The guys who manipulate everybody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, at the same time, though, it has to be intensely attractive to be like, oh, the psych warfare guy is on my team. | ||
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So... | |
| He's obviously working for me, which is exactly how psych warfare fucking works. | ||
| Especially when you can see it happening on the show with him flattering him, like, Alex, thanks to you we're able to do this. | ||
| And it's like he's not even doing that good a job. | ||
| It's like he's just tossing off all of his psych warfare skills and just being like... | ||
| Hey, you're great. | ||
| Now say what I want you to say. | ||
| It's so simple. | ||
| It's not even like he's trying hard. | ||
| It is if you really look at it. | ||
| And listen to this next clip, because we should get through some of this. | ||
| We're on clip five, and we have 300 more to go. | ||
| No, I just think we're talking too much about Steve without actually listening to what he's saying. | ||
| Good point. | ||
| And I stand behind the things I'm saying. | ||
| I just don't want you to get too... | ||
| I don't want you to get knee-depth into this without knowing what the water looks like. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Which is a pretty good down-home... | ||
| That is a great little... | ||
| That's a Larry Nichols. | ||
| That's a great little colloquial. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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Now I don't want you to turn into a duck before it's time. | |
| So in this next clip, Steve Pachanek takes credit for Donald Trump basically existing in the public sphere. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Your take on Donald Trump, your take on Carson and where the country is. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| The truth of the matter is, this is one of the most phenomenal American revolutions I have ever seen, and the one we were waiting for, Alex. | ||
| I thank you, and I thank the audience, and I thank the so-called alternative media, which really became the mainstream media. | ||
| The reality is Trump had been monitoring this mainstream media for a long time. | ||
| I knew it. | ||
| He knew it. | ||
| Many of us had known that. | ||
| And in fact, when we put his name up for the next presidency, he took it. | ||
| And basically ran with it. | ||
| And this is the true expression of the moral majority and the fact that we are so tired of the people who committed the crime at 9-11. | ||
| Now, once Trump gets in, my suspicion is many of them will be arrested. | ||
| And that's what I think will happen in the long run. | ||
| I don't know Trump personally. | ||
| I do know his background. | ||
| I know a lot about his character. | ||
| He is a man who will do exactly what he said. | ||
| If Steve Pachenik, a psych warfare expert, is aware of Trump's past, that means he's aware of all of his dirty dealings, he's aware of his involvement with Russia, financial or otherwise, and he knows about all that stuff. | ||
| What does that tell you? | ||
| And not just that. | ||
| What does that tell you? | ||
| Not just that. | ||
| The idea that he is saying many of them will be arrested is code to... | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And if he is... | ||
| But he's also talking about the neocons. | ||
| It's not just Hitler. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| Hitler. | ||
| That's an Alex Jones... | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| There it is. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| You know why that happened? | ||
| Because we're going to talk more about Hitler. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| No, but that is such a... | ||
| If you're not an idiot, you know... | ||
| None of those people will be arrested. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But if you are an Alex Jones listener, you've got Hillary for prison all up in your mind. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So if you think for a second that Trump is going to arrest anybody, you're dumb. | ||
| Well, give him six months. | ||
| Well, that's possible. | ||
| He might start locking up enemies. | ||
| Even then. | ||
| That seems like... | ||
| Well... | ||
| At this point, nothing is beyond... | ||
| Shit moves fast. | ||
| Yeah, nothing is beyond what could be happening. | ||
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Right. | |
| But he is clearly doing that on purpose. | ||
| And you heard in that clip even him saying, I thank you and I thank your audience. | ||
| Again, flattering the audience. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| So like, Alex Jones, we would not be able to do this without you. | ||
| You are so important to the team. | ||
| One of the most phenomenal American revolutions that's ever happened. | ||
| I'm so thrilled. | ||
| Even though it's happened so many different times. | ||
| Even though it's the exact same shit that's happened. | ||
| Plenty of times before. | ||
| And he implies that there's a situation where him and some other people nominate people to become president. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know what that is. | ||
| He doesn't unpack that. | ||
| Globalists. | ||
| Or Russia. | ||
| Listen to this next. | ||
| Or the idea that Trump has been monitoring... | ||
| Anything. | ||
| I think he watches the news. | ||
| I think that's fair. | ||
| Trump monitors when people say how great Trump is, and then that's the end of that. | ||
| No, I disagree. | ||
| I think the argument that he watches the news is probably accurate. | ||
| So long as it's Fox and Friends. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's all he's saying. | ||
| He's been monitoring Fox and Friends. | ||
| Yeah, he's been watching the news. | ||
| Yeah, so I said that maybe the group that he's talking about is Russia because of this next clip. | ||
| Now let me get to where the real problem is. | ||
| Not only will we turn around and get rid of these people, but Russia, in effect, watched what we were doing. | ||
| And Putin went from a tactical genius to a chessboard genius. | ||
| And he understood that our military could not affect a successful combat mission. | ||
| And he saw that repeatedly in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, and Sudan. | ||
| What he did in turn was to inform us, basically the intelligence service, that he was going in and he told Obama, I agree we had no strategy. | ||
| And that's exactly what they're doing. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I don't know what Bashar Assad did, but I do know that he was there to protect the Christians. | ||
| And one of the issues that came up in your show, and I said it repeatedly, Christians were being slaughtered all over the Middle East thanks to the CIA created Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and all the other groups that were funded by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Dubai. | ||
| Now what happens is we strategically involve Iran that has no qualms with the Christians. | ||
| The Russians represent Christianity and, in fact, are fighting back on all the elements that are involved in Syria. | ||
| Dr. Pchenik, stay there. | ||
| Riveting stuff. | ||
| And, again, you've been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. | ||
| You've talked to all these people. | ||
| Pchenik really has been doing the things he says he's doing here on air. | ||
| It's pretty amazing. | ||
| It's pretty amazing. | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| I have a... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Quick question. | ||
| Would you, before you ask this question, would you... | ||
| Classify those statements as wildly pro-Putin? | ||
| Because I would. | ||
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I would absolutely classify them as wildly pro-Putin. | |
| I would argue that they're as pro-Putin as Alex Jones already is. | ||
| Which takes me to my next question. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Do these people believe it's a good thing that Putin has far larger control? | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Over world affairs. | ||
| Or are they acting in some sort of naked self-interest? | ||
| I suppose the larger question is, do they think that they are the good guys, or are they psychopaths who are just trying to gain the highest advantage for them personally? | ||
| I imagine it's on a case-by-case basis, but I think that probably they think they're doing the right thing. | ||
| I think that there's probably a moral conviction on some level. | ||
| I don't think Trump has that. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| I think Steve Pachanek believes... | ||
| I don't know if he believes in the globalists, but Alex certainly does. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think that that is... | ||
| Whether or not it started as a real narrative, it's definitely deeply entrenched in him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And if he believes that the globalists do exist... | ||
| And Russia is the last line of defense against them. | ||
| I think he does think that siding with them is the right thing to do. | ||
| He's wrong, but I think he doesn't think... | ||
| I think he has it in his head that Putin is just going to free people and then go back about his merry business being lied about in the media or whatever. | ||
| Running Russia like a great free Christian defending country. | ||
| Which is even more insane. | ||
| One of the larger... | ||
| If you only listen to Russian propaganda, you don't think that Russia is a place that has free speech problems. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Because that's not going to be reported on, you know... | ||
| RT or whatever it is you'd like. | ||
| Any of these outlets. | ||
| Ultimately, what we are getting into, especially now, Is how far you can go with owning Christianity. | ||
| Like, that's kind of it. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| What does owning mean? | ||
| I mean, the... | ||
| So, Trump's largest voting bloc that still supports him, despite all, all, all of the shit he's done, is right-wing Christian conservatives. | ||
| That's because of the intersection with white identity. | ||
| In Russia. | ||
| The narrative always gets back to the Christians are the ones who we should protect. | ||
| Well, at least with Alex. | ||
| Like, all of this stuff in the UK, in so many different places, it is who owns Christianity. | ||
| And it is almost always turned into a tool of oppressing the very people that Christ... | ||
| Was a big fan of. | ||
| It's a problem. | ||
| So it's like all of this propaganda winds up utilizing the same tools that the Christians have used to fuck over everybody for thousands of years. | ||
| Yeah, I don't disagree. | ||
| So whenever you get into somebody like Steve Pachanek, who has no religion. | ||
| Regardless of whether or not he claims religion, he has no sense of any morality. | ||
| It doesn't seem like it. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| You can't possibly have a sense of morality if you are deliberately misleading a lunatic like Alex Jones to incite his white nationalist supporters to vote for a white nationalist. | ||
| Who is beholden to a white nationalist country. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| That has ambitions of creating those uprisings all around the world. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And finances them. | ||
| So the idea of having any sense of morality is beyond reasonable. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I agree. | ||
| I'm sure he can believe that he has a sense of morality. | ||
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I agree. | |
| But in any objective sense, he is immoral. | ||
| I agree with my position, and I also agree with yours. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I can't say. | ||
| I agree that it seems like... | ||
| If you are a rational enough person, you can't possibly do the things that Steve Pachanek is doing or Alex Jones is doing without the... | ||
| The only bastion you have is, ah, fuck, I'm an idiot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I didn't know. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| But I don't know. | ||
| Or you lied to yourself or you grew... | ||
| Like, growing up in a cult... | ||
| Which this is. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| There is that kind of reinforcing belief wherein... | ||
| The immoral turns to morality. | ||
| Because you're doing it for the cult. | ||
| And then you will sacrifice every sense of morality that you have so long as the cult is doing it. | ||
| Because whatever the cult is doing is moral. | ||
| Doesn't that go into, like, crusades and stuff, too? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Those were horribly immoral acts done in the name of Christianity. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Or Islam on either side. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But, like, yeah, totally. | ||
| It's a problem of religion. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
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So, to me... | |
| I'm less interested in that. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I'm more interested in the fact that... | ||
| Well, I grew up in a cult, so of course I'm interested in it, Dan. | ||
| Look, I don't want to discount your experience, but I'm... | ||
| I'm fascinated by the idea that Steve Pchenik shows up, takes credit for the idea of Trump running for president, admits that he's involved in psychological warfare, comes in with an insanely pro-Putin position, that Putin is smart enough to figure out what's going on, and he slipped in. | ||
| I believe that this is formative in terms of the idea of the secret treaties and stuff like that, with Assad and all this. | ||
| I think that's probably coming from Pchenik. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| Support what Assad did. | ||
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But. | |
| But I do know he was doing the best thing for everybody involved. | ||
| The Christians. | ||
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| He was defending Christians. | ||
| Oh, the Christians. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Assad defending the. | ||
| Assad's defending the. | ||
| If there's one thing I know about Assad. | ||
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| It's his unwavering support for Christendom. | ||
| Yeah, he loves it. | ||
| So in this next clip, you might think that we've already got milked this teat, and there's not going to be anything else coming out of it. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Steve Pchenik in this clip discusses other political presidential candidates. | ||
| Well, Hillary's in a very serious problem, and once again, I want to thank your audience and you. | ||
| What we did was, in fact, to do a psyops on Hillary, which was an effect to create Bernie Sanders, to bring him out to co-opt her extreme left. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wait, wait, co-opting Hillary is co-opting the extreme left? | ||
| Well, yeah, with Bernie. | ||
| And Biden is the middle? | ||
| Yeah, he's performed a psyop. | ||
| Bernie to run, I guess. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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So then Bernie takes the extreme left, and Biden, who didn't run, if you don't recall, he never entered the race. | |
| Nope. | ||
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That was a PSYOP, too, in order to get the middle of... | |
| away from Hillary Clinton, leaving her with only a sliver of the pie, with which she won the popular vote. | ||
| Yeah, I'm at the point now where I genuinely believe the election was not legitimate at all. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| It was stolen by Russia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're past the point of skepticism. | ||
| That's literally what happened. | ||
| Russia stole the election for Donald Trump. | ||
| And there's more and more evidence coming out of actual vote flipping. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| Not necessarily even vote flipping, but removing people from the voter rolls. | ||
| Before they were ever allowed to vote. | ||
| All that stuff that seemed like lunacy. | ||
| And even with that, Hillary still won the popular vote! | ||
| They're just smart enough to pick the right states, I guess. | ||
| Choose your spots. | ||
| That's where Putin went from a genius strategy guy to a genius chessboard guy. | ||
| A genius tactic. | ||
| Like, the tactics versus the... | ||
| Anyways. | ||
| Yeah, it is very much a kung fu kind of thing where you hit the spots that will take down the monster. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In this next clip, Steve Pachanek basically takes credit for everyone running for president. | ||
| Oh, well, that makes sense. | ||
| He tricked everyone into running. | ||
| I guarantee that's true. | ||
| Clearly, I kept saying, how delusional are they to have Clinton and Bush dynasties run again knowing nobody wants them? | ||
| Are you saying good people in intelligence agencies? | ||
| And their own campaign people suckered them? | ||
| And this has all been a trap? | ||
| Because that's what it looks like to me. | ||
| Well, it's not only them. | ||
| There are people like myself and others who've been in psyops operations, and we suckered them. | ||
| Because this has been a 14-year operation. | ||
| It's not something that just came overnight. | ||
| And Jeb was so stupid that he literally reiterated what his brother said and Rumsfeld quoted about Pearl Harbor. | ||
| So they were suckered. | ||
| They've been suckered in for a long time because people like myself and others have monitored them for a long period. | ||
| They've been warned repeatedly through blogs. | ||
| And despite all of that, they went in because they are self-delusional. | ||
| And in the business of manipulation of self-delusional, grandiose, paranoid people, it's not hard to manipulate them. | ||
| The one who was not manipulated was Putin. | ||
| And he understood very quickly how to move in in a country that had no leadership, no direction on the foreign policy side, not on the domestic side. | ||
| On the domestic side, we were extremely effective with lowering the ruble. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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So there's a lot in that clip. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm really glad you caught that. | ||
| We warned them through blogs. | ||
| We warned them through blogs. | ||
| Which is fascinating. | ||
| We warned them through blogs. | ||
| I don't know what that means. | ||
| Where else would you get warned? | ||
| I don't know what that means. | ||
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I've been closely monitoring blogs, so I know what I'm talking about. | |
| Right, I guess Steve Pchenik probably has a blog where he posted something and was like, hey, don't fuck around. | ||
| I warned him. | ||
| I mean, I don't think he's wrong in that these paranoid lunatics who are running for office is... | ||
| Are easily manipulated. | ||
| But, like, take that logic to the next step, and who else is a paranoid lunatic? | ||
| Um, you, Dan. | ||
| I have been performing a sigh up on you this entire time. | ||
| I'm actually working for Alex Jones. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Within the end of this investigation, you will be an Alex Jones supporter. | ||
| I don't think that'll be true. | ||
| True. | ||
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I will warn you through blogs, Dan! | |
| I am liking him less and less as this goes along. | ||
| I can't imagine the prestige is me being like, he's great! | ||
| The idea that he will ever go up in our estimation is beyond... | ||
| Beyond reasonable. | ||
| Well, I mean, he has his good points. | ||
| You know, there's those three or four policy positions he has that are reasonable. | ||
| But from where we are now, we're already at those. | ||
| How does he go up from here? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, you almost got on board with him to take out Donald Sutherland. | ||
| I didn't say I was getting on board with him! | ||
| Peter Sutherland? | ||
| Look, alright? | ||
| I didn't like his choice to be in the Hunger Games movies. | ||
| I didn't think they were very good, and I don't think Don and Sullivan should support that. | ||
| Spoiler alert, guys. | ||
| The Hunger Games are going to come up at our live show September 9th at North Bar. | ||
| Spoiler alert! | ||
| In two years, the Hunger Games will be real. | ||
| All of these spoilers are fantastic. | ||
| So, Steve Pchenik has some thoughts about Barack Obama that are kind of interesting. | ||
| He doesn't have a great... | ||
| He doesn't think highly of him. | ||
| Do a what? | ||
| But also, he has an interesting fake backstory for Barack Obama that is interesting. | ||
| It's not your run-of-the-mill birth certificate shit either. | ||
| Oh no, we're getting into weird territory. | ||
| The system, particularly the CIA at the time, read him, fostered him. | ||
| People like Geithner, Peter Geithner, when Timothy said he didn't know, they lied. | ||
| The whole system lied. | ||
| The Pritzkers lied, who were the former allies of Al Capone. | ||
| I mean, the whole Chicago mob lied. | ||
| Harry Emanuel, Emanuel, the whole family lied. | ||
| So you have a product here that comes out of Chicago out of a collusive element. | ||
| It doesn't have to be paranoid, but he himself is not qualified to be any type of leader. | ||
| He never had it. | ||
| He was never capable of it, but they thought having a black young man who had a Muslim name would somehow change the perception of America. | ||
| It was a serious mistake. | ||
| He learned all the technology that we knew from DARPA, Defense Advanced Research Projects. | ||
| He came into power and didn't really know how to wield it. | ||
| He then started false flags. | ||
| Newtown was an obvious false flag, and then we had Oregon, which is a repetition of Newtown. | ||
| I mean, how many Asperger's mothers? | ||
| And kids can be shooting all those people. | ||
| Even my special forces can't recruit Asperger's. | ||
| So this is really ridiculous. | ||
| And what you have here is a man who's totally alienated from what's going on. | ||
| I don't want to give him a mental health label because I don't think he deserves it. | ||
| He has to have an accountability as a man who was not qualified to do what he did, was not qualified to be president, and in fact indicts the Democratic Party so seriously. | ||
| That they were stupid enough, and I know the people involved, some of the liberals and famous congressmen who thought this was a great idea, and I said it was a stupid idea because he would eventually fail and he would destroy our country. | ||
| Now, thanks to you and many others, we have been able to turn this tide around and see what will happen. | ||
| If Trump comes in and Ben Carson comes in, now I will be very serious to your audience. | ||
| I have warned. | ||
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I would not say that Ben Carson is able to manipulate emotions. | |
| God, imagine if the left had a Sirhan Sirhan, you know? | ||
| Like, imagine if... | ||
| Imagine if the good guys weren't the ones who got assassinated and it was the bad guys instead. | ||
| I don't want to go down this line. | ||
| I do. | ||
| No, this thing is... | ||
| Isn't that wild? | ||
| That clip? | ||
| Isn't that wild? | ||
| I mean, I don't want to relitigate. | ||
| We can relitigate Obama's presidency a million times over. | ||
| We're critical. | ||
| But if there's one thing that he was, it was a good leader. | ||
| I would say so. | ||
| Like, his decision-making... | ||
| He was too black for some. | ||
| He was too black for just about everybody. | ||
| But he was a good leader. | ||
| Like, there's so much... | ||
| And again, you can blame the triangulation that Clinton set up as a precedent. | ||
| You can blame all those things, like not being full-throated progressive. | ||
| Like, you could blame that for why we lost so many governorships and state. | ||
| Uh, legislatures? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You can blame so much of that. | ||
| But as far as leading a country goes, I'll be goddamned if the rest of the world didn't at least look at Obama and say, well, this guy's fucking great. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And, uh... | ||
| I mean, except for Russia, of course. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Who is... | |
| Who would guess that Russia wouldn't be big fans of him? | ||
| Yeah, because they keep invading folks and annexing land, and Obama put reasonable sanctions on them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In the same way that Hillary would have... | ||
| Continued. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Or, well, Hillary might have gone... | ||
| Made worse. | ||
| Yeah, Hillary would have gone... | ||
| Hillary hated Putin. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Or at least Putin hated Hillary. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I imagine it might have been a two-way street. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| But at the same time, we absolutely can't relitigate hypothetical presence. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know, like, what could be happening now. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I think that this is fascinating, because... | ||
| I mean, Steve Pachanek has this backstory. | ||
| I mean, if you were going to go, like, a lot of people blame Obama for losing all of the state legislatures. | ||
| If you were going to blame anybody, I would blame the Democratic Party. | ||
| Yeah, the infrastructure. | ||
| Because apparently, we can't even get Nazis right. | ||
| Somehow the center of the Democratic Party is still like, Antifa's bad. | ||
| They still haven't even gotten that the Nazis are murdering people and that maybe a large majority of the country is against Nazis. | ||
| They're on the blaming Antifa front. | ||
| These people are so fucking stupid. | ||
| If you blame Obama for this shit, you're insane. | ||
| You're fucking insane. | ||
| Well, I think what is happening more is that history is repeating itself, but we have a slightly fictionalized version of history, so we don't realize that it's repeating. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| I'm not rewriting history the same way Alex Jones loves to, but a lot of people have it in their head that during the Civil Rights Movement, everybody was on board with it and everyone was fighting. | ||
| Which is bananas. | ||
| Because everyone doesn't want to cop to the fact that it's a very good chance that your grandpa was not on board with it. | ||
| My dad wasn't on board with it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Everyone wants to think nowadays that it's so obvious. | ||
| It was obvious that Martin Luther King Jr. was great. | ||
| A majority of people obviously supported Martin Luther King Jr. | ||
| Right, Dan? | ||
| No, the reality is... | ||
| No, that wasn't true? | ||
| The public perception was that they're agitators and terrorists. | ||
| I can't think of any reason why. | ||
| That are trying to get black rights through. | ||
| Wait, I totally bet the FBI didn't try and force Martin Luther King Jr. to kill himself. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I bet that wasn't true at all. | ||
| But you understand what I'm saying? | ||
| The reality is history is repeating itself. | ||
| We have fascistic right wing people rising that have been online organizing for years. | ||
| years and what have you. | ||
| But they're coming into the public and there are people who are trying to fight back against it. | ||
| And of course, the widespread perception, whether it's Republicans or Democrats, is that they're a problem too. | ||
| Even if you... | ||
| And 20 years from now, God willing... | ||
| We will beat back this fascism. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I said God willing. | ||
| And 20 years from now, everyone will pretend that they were on... | ||
| Antifa seems like a very broad term to use. | ||
| I am 100% on board with Antifa. | ||
| Right, but I think there's other... | ||
| Fuck anybody's criticisms. | ||
| At this point, Antifa is right 100% of the time. | ||
| That's not what I'm disputing. | ||
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I know. | |
| I'm saying there's a lot of other groups, too. | ||
| There's a lot of folks who are on the side of fighting back against this trend. | ||
| Every single one of them. | ||
| And 20 years from now, everyone will pretend that almost everybody was on that side. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And we will again forget that it is almost always a very unpopular group doing the right thing that ends up being demonized and then winning. | ||
| I think the bigger difference, though, will be that we've got tape. | ||
| Now we got tape. | ||
| We got receipts on all of those things. | ||
| Like, 20 years from now, if Trevor Noah has a career, I would be... | ||
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Furious. | |
| Five years from now, if he has a career, I'd be furious. | ||
| Tomorrow, if he has a career, I'm furious. | ||
| He will be comedy's Neville Chamberlain. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Well, no, no, no. | ||
| That would be, what's his fuck, on The Tonight Show? | ||
| Conan? | ||
| No. | ||
| He went over to hang out with B.B. Netanyahu. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Well, yeah, that's true. | ||
| No, what's his fucking... | ||
| No, the new one. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The fucker. | ||
| Oh, Fallon. | ||
| Fallon, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Fallon is the Neville Chamberlain of our times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, let's not relitigate all that, and let's try and say relitigate as much as Steve Pachenik flatters Alex. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Do you notice that, though? | ||
| Every single clip is, I thank you and your audience. | ||
| It's formulaic, but it is hypnotic. | ||
| Alex is not going to pick up on the fact that Steve is using those terms and using that strategy intentionally to get under his ego. | ||
| No, of course. | ||
| He's trying to keep Alex Jones' guard down. | ||
| Alex will interpret that as... | ||
| This guy fucking thinks I'm awesome. | ||
| Well, not just that. | ||
| And if he thinks I'm awesome, then Putin must be really smart. | ||
| All these things I've already sort of been flirting with, I must be on the right track with this. | ||
| Well, and that's the other brilliant thing that he's doing, is he's mixing and matching those. | ||
| So he'll have, in one sentence, something that Alex hates, and in the same sentence, something that he hates. | ||
| Conflating the two together. | ||
| We must be in alignment. | ||
| Of course, if you hate this thing and I hate this thing, they're in the same sentence. | ||
| If you hate Obama and Sandy Hook was fake. | ||
| Yeah, exactly! | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Even though Alex already believes Sandy Hook is fake. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But it is one of those things where... | ||
| That might be more for the audience. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's true. | ||
| There's less need to get Alex Jones on board with that sort of bullshit. | ||
| But Steve Pchenik has one more clip before we get out of here and move on to the next day. | ||
| Get out of October 20th. | ||
| And, I mean, this is just a summation. | ||
| I'll be able to do more once I'm re-elected. | ||
| That was back prior to 2008, or excuse me, the last election, 2012. | ||
| What do you think that was really about, Dr. Pochetti? | ||
| Well, let's understand this. | ||
| Russia has never really been our enemy. | ||
| Although I've been involved in the regime change in the Soviet Union, I made it very clear to all of our officials That we didn't do anything to take down Russia. | ||
| Russia has been a formidable ally of ours. | ||
| It has always worked with us. | ||
| And in fact, it has a much more serious problem of Islamic terrorism because of Central Asia. | ||
| That can't be true. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| That's the least true thing that's ever been said. | ||
| It's quite not true. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| No, that's... | ||
| I mean, we have teamed up from time to time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's definitely true. | ||
| You know how the United States' official position has been that Russia is our ally the entire time? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| You know how that's true? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| You know how Eisenhower was, like, immediately after the end of World War II. | ||
| You know what we should do? | ||
| We should align with Russia. | ||
| That's exactly what he said. | ||
| Probably the best we've ever gotten with them is trust but verify. | ||
| That's sort of been, like, the best position we've ever had. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I mean the most close to friendship. | ||
| That's even then giving the relationship a lot of credit. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| My bigger thing is that that's what Steve believes. | ||
| Our closest relationship with Russia has been like, fuck you. | ||
| Alright, fuck you too. | ||
| But we're alright. | ||
| We fuck each other. | ||
| A lot of finger guns. | ||
| So, I think if we want to put a button on October 20th, We have the first appearance in our investigation of Steve Pachenik. | ||
| He comes in with a robust narrative of Putin is a good guy. | ||
| He's a very good guy. | ||
| He's a good guy. | ||
| He's probably the only good guy on the world stage. | ||
| The only one fighting the globalists, for sure. | ||
| And as an extension of that, I and some other unnamed people have gotten together and got Donald Trump to run. | ||
| Also conflating those two ideas. | ||
| That Donald Trump is some sort of a savior. | ||
| And, I mean, Steve says as much. | ||
| It's incredibly fucked up. | ||
| It's bafflingly fucked up. | ||
| And it follows the trend that we're seeing as this investigation goes on, that the coupling of support of Putin and Russia is inexorably entwined with support of Trump. | ||
| Even for Alex Jones. | ||
| He, nowadays, in 2017, pretends that that is not even close to the case. | ||
| He's not an agent of Russia. | ||
| But as we look back on this, we see definitive evidence that he loves Russia and supports Putin even before he supported Trump. | ||
| And it's infuriating. | ||
| The thing that you said earlier about Hess and the Nuremberg trials, that's where I do start to see the difference between inciting war and knowingly committing atrocities. | ||
| Or a genocide. | ||
| Yeah, is with these guys. | ||
| With Pchenik, what is the difference between him effectively supporting Putin and then Trump and him opportunistically supporting Trump and then Putin? | ||
| Do you see what I'm saying there? | ||
| Somewhat. | ||
| Like, how conscious are so many of these people of their complete and utter traitorous behavior towards the United States? | ||
| Well, no, because in the same way that the sovereign citizens pledge allegiance to the Constitution or whatever. | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| But not to the federal government and all that. | ||
| And it goes to Alex's understanding of Christianity. | ||
| I'm aligned with Christianity, just not your Glitterbug churches. | ||
| I'm aligned with America, just not the federal government. | ||
| It's this weird game that they're playing. | ||
| I'm not a traitor. | ||
| I support America, but America has been taken over by globalists. | ||
| So in order for me to actually be supporting America, I have to support the enemies of America who will take out the globalists. | ||
| And that's cockamamie. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's nonsense. | ||
| That is the path to treason. | ||
| Just like Joel Osteen. | ||
| I am a Christian, but I'm not going to help anybody. | ||
| Until they say I have to. | ||
| Well, even then, he's asking for donations from those people that he's helping. | ||
| That was great. | ||
| That's classic. | ||
| That's church, baby. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Isn't that such like religion is a lie? | ||
| It doesn't get any more obvious than go fuck yourself religion. | ||
| Well, I'm so thrilled that these Jim Baker clips keep flying around online. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| We'll watch one after the show. | ||
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| But, like, Jim Baker, you know, he was an old-time televangelist. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| He went to prison for fraud and shit. | ||
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No, of course. | |
| He's back and what have you. | ||
| How is he back? | ||
| Well, he's been back for a while selling, like, survival food and he has his own church. | ||
| It's another scam, just like Alex. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But people have been really clowning on him pretty hard on the internet lately because he has, uh... | ||
| Everyone just go watch those videos. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he has live bands that sing about his survival food. | ||
| That's so great. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| It's such... | ||
| It's next level. | ||
| Like, anyone watching this taking it seriously, I don't understand. | ||
| It's just like the... | ||
| It's such an obvious fraud. | ||
| It's just like the spiritualist movements in the early 1900s with, like, Marjo and those fuckers who would just go around and have these rallies of 20,000 people, which, again, we don't... | ||
| We don't talk about it all. | ||
| No. | ||
| Especially not Christians, where it would just be lies and scams the whole time. | ||
| That's like almost every tent revival that's ever happened. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| Anyways, watch Gravity Falls. | ||
| There's great stuff there. | ||
| So we move on to the 21st and the 22nd, which there won't be too much. | ||
| The meat of this episode is really the idea that Steve Pchenik has shown up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But on the 21st, the day after Steve Pchenik... | ||
| A psych warfare expert comes on to Alex Jones' show and tells him that Putin is great and has some very pro-Russia positions. | ||
| Alex Jones mentions someone that he will defend quite a bit in the coming months and year for the first time ever. | ||
| France prosecutes political leader for criticizing Muslims. | ||
| Marie Le Pen faces you're in prison and more. | ||
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Fuck me. | |
| So, he calls her Marie Le Pen, which indicates that he doesn't actually know who she is. | ||
| Never heard of her. | ||
| He is just repeating stuff and being told, this is a narrative you've got to get on board with. | ||
| Got some orders. | ||
| The reason that she was in trouble was because... | ||
| She's a fascist? | ||
| Well, no, that was later. | ||
| The reason she was in trouble this time and was going to court was she was saying that Muslims were occupying parts of France. | ||
| And the reason that that is... | ||
| And Texas. | ||
| Well, she didn't bring that up. | ||
| But the reason that that's trouble is that they take occupation very seriously in France. | ||
| I can't think of any reason why. | ||
| Because of the occupation that happened there. | ||
| The Nazis. | ||
| Dan, why? | ||
| Why would they take occupation seriously in France? | ||
| Well, because of that whole Vichy thing. | ||
| I can't understand. | ||
| Dan, why would they take... | ||
| So, her argument in court was she was talking uncapitalized occupation, whereas the occupation that happened was capital O occupation. | ||
| And as we all know, France is under admiralty law. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So, if you capitalize something, it's a big deal. | ||
| It's like with Irish people talking about the Troubles. | ||
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That's a capital T. Which is my favorite euphemism for... | |
| Oh yeah, you guys remember The Troubles? | ||
| I do like that phraseology. | ||
| I enjoy it quite a bit. | ||
| That's like if Israel called it The Bummer. | ||
| Come on, guys. | ||
| The oh no. | ||
| The whoopsa! | ||
| So the other thing is that because of history being what it is, we now know that Marine Le Pen didn't really get in trouble for that. | ||
| But she should have been censured, and it should have been a big deal. | ||
| Because you can't make light of that sort of thing. | ||
| That part of your history. | ||
| In the same way that you couldn't, in Germany, call something a holocaust. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You couldn't do that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Without getting in some sort of like, hey, hold on. | ||
| You're trying to conflate things in a very unfair way. | ||
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Yeah, of course. | |
| She was trying to get the soft association in people's minds that these Muslims were Nazis. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That's what she was doing, and it was 100% the right thing to do to give her the old, hey, cut it out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But Alex Jones starts defending her on the next episode after Steve Pchenik comes in. | ||
| And as we all know... | ||
| Putin was very strongly behind Le Pen. | ||
| I can't think of any reason why. | ||
| He was funding her and was bolstering for her. | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| It's very wild. | ||
| It is hard to argue with Pchenik when he says that Putin is a tactical genius. | ||
| Seems great. | ||
| He's really good at it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Either that or it's just everybody is so dumb that the least dumb person... | ||
| Seems like a genius. | ||
| Do you know what I'm saying? | ||
| I think also when you're cornered a little bit, it's easier to make brilliant strategic moves. | ||
| You have less to lose. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, Russia is in the toilet. | ||
| And when you have a long history of very competent secret police and shit like that, you've had years to develop tactics. | ||
| And when you are one of those very competent secret police. | ||
| And when the secret police in those countries come from a tradition of not having to worry about things being ethical or legal, I think that you're able to... | ||
| You're probably able to best people in strategy because there's things that we can't do. | ||
| Putin has nothing to lose, seeing as how he's a secret, what, hundred billionaire? | ||
| The idea that we have a Forbes list of richest men and Putin isn't number one on that list is pretty insane to me. | ||
| Well, the thing is... | ||
| Even think about it another step removed from that logic. | ||
| There are probably other people who have as much money as him that we don't know about, too. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's probably true. | ||
| Maybe one or two. | ||
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| But then you take into, like, we know that the Mercers are billionaires, but they probably have way more money than that. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| Almost everybody probably has way more money than we publicly know. | ||
| Which is why they should be beheaded. | ||
| And the French Revolution... | ||
| French Revolution 2.0! | ||
| Vive la resistance! | ||
| Yeah, no kidding, right? | ||
| So he defends Le Pen. | ||
| 1784 all over again! | ||
| Alex supports Le Pen. | ||
| Or at least is saying that she's being unfairly tried, which is nonsense if you actually understand what the situation is. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But it's really interesting that he... | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| He says this in support of Le Pen and that it's crazy, and then does this. | ||
| He immediately... | ||
| I've just paused the clip. | ||
| There's no edits or anything. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| He then launches into this... | ||
| I think he's trying to castigate political correctness, but on the other end of this clip, I want to explain why that's stupid. | ||
| So, welcome to the next level of oppression, and that ties into something we know has been going on here in the United States for a long time. | ||
| If you don't hear the race of a suspect in a murder or a hit-and-run or a carjacking, if you hear white male, then you know it was a white male. | ||
| But if you don't hear what the suspect looks like, They just say a man robbed a woman at this park. | ||
| He was driving a blue Ford Chevy or whatever he was driving. | ||
| So probably a white guy. | ||
| Then you know it was a, quote, minority. | ||
| And this is an unspoken rule of political correctness. | ||
| Again, just setting the precedent on information management. | ||
| And once you get the media and the police lying in concert on one subject, then they can segue into every other very quickly. | ||
| I think that there's a lot of problems. | ||
| That's so similar to what he does. | ||
| But there's a lot of problems even with just that statement. | ||
| Because the idea that when you don't hear someone's race in a crime report you assume it's a minority is a function of racism. | ||
| That's a function of deeply ingrained racism that we have. | ||
| I can't see how, Dan. | ||
| And it has to be specifically called out that it's a white person for you to ever think that it's white. | ||
| Most people won't say radical Islamic terrorism. | ||
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Right. | |
| So then the other thing, we had this Hurricane Harvey that happened. | ||
| Most people definitely won't say radical Nazi terrorism. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| But you have this every time that there's a hurricane, that when there's looting, it's black people, and when it's scavenging or something like that, you found food or something like that. | ||
| That's a white person. | ||
| And when it's fucking every single person over, it's capitalism. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But Alex's semantic games that he's playing don't even work the way he's pretendingly do. | ||
| This idea that there's political correctness that is attacking white people in the media. | ||
| Oh, it's run amok. | ||
| That's so stupid. | ||
| There's hundreds of examples all over the place that he's totally wrong. | ||
| The systemic thing where a black person doing the same thing as a white person is somehow criminal is ubiquitous. | ||
| It's all over the place. | ||
| Alex believes the same thing. | ||
| Like, if a white person came up to him and was like, I need money, can you help me out? | ||
| That's panhandling. | ||
| If a black person does it, it's a mugging. | ||
| It's the exact same thing. | ||
| He does this all the time and then blames PC culture for something that doesn't happen. | ||
| It's so weird! | ||
| And that is how he wants to talk about Le Pen's lawsuit! | ||
| That's stupid! | ||
| It infuriates me. | ||
| I want to have something to interject, but you're right on all counts. | ||
| Yeah, so we get to this next clip. | ||
| And Alex, we're getting back to Hitler for a minute. | ||
| How can we get back to Hitler? | ||
| Why do we always have to go back to how Hitler wasn't that bad of a guy? | ||
| We have two clips about Hitler that are weird. | ||
| They're very weird. | ||
| And his first one, I love the news I'm going to provide for you on the other end. | ||
| I suppose the only thing I have to say about your previous rant is that it is not weird. | ||
| It is America, Dan. | ||
| That is normal for us. | ||
| It is so not weird for these idiots to use race. | ||
| It is the most normal thing. | ||
| What it is, is wrong. | ||
| That's not the weird part. | ||
| What's the weird part? | ||
| The weird part is the strategy of rhetoric that he's using. | ||
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| Because it's so wrong factually, and it's so see-through. | ||
| Like, it doesn't... | ||
| I mean, again, that should not be surprising. | ||
| Yeah, but that's not weird because that's effective. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Seeing through this kind of shit is something that the right wing is simply incapable of. | ||
| Kind of, yeah. | ||
| They're just not able to do it. | ||
| Because of the white fears and Christians are under attack narratives. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| They will give up anything, any belief they have, so long as white people are fine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even though white people are already fine. | ||
| And have been. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They'll even go so far as to defend Hitler. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which, listen to this clip. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| France basically invited Hitler in as well. | ||
| That is, most of the government stood down and then... | ||
| A week later was put back in power by the Nazis. | ||
| So it's true that the grand leader of the Islamic movement in the Middle East really at that time was a Nazi, went to Germany, was buddies with Hitler, encouraged Hitler to kill all the Jews. | ||
| And so Merkel came out and said, no, Muslims have no part in killing Jews. | ||
| It's all Germans' fault. | ||
| I guess modern Germans, it's their fault too. | ||
| So it's all part of this guilt complex. | ||
| Germany on Wednesday said that the responsibility for the Holocaust lay with the Germans after Israel's Prime Minister Netanyahu sparked controversy before a visit to Berlin by saying a Muslim elder had convinced Hitler to exterminate the Jews. | ||
| And then he goes over the fact that that went on. | ||
| There's really not any secret that there is a love affair with the Nazis. | ||
| To this day, in many areas of the Middle East. | ||
| But the left doesn't care. | ||
| They love teaming up with radical Islam because it is anti-Western, and they're anti-Western, and really want to mount the Renaissance and true liberalism on the wall as a safari trophy. | ||
| He's bringing up the Renaissance. | ||
| That's not something he's been doing too much so far in this investigation. | ||
| Is this when we get our 2.0? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's not, but it's just he hasn't brought it up too much at this point. | ||
| He's taking this from things Netanyahu said. | ||
| Here's the quote from Netanyahu. | ||
| Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time of the meeting between the Mufti and the Nazi leader. | ||
| He wanted to expel the Jews, Netanyahu said in his speech. | ||
| And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, if you expel them, they'll all come to Palestine, continued the Prime Minister. | ||
| So what should I do with them? | ||
| Hitler asked. | ||
| According to Netanyahu, quote, He, Husseini, said, burned them. | ||
| So that is a narrative that comes out of a guy who's running a apartheid state where they want to kill all or at least expel all Palestinians. | ||
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Israel was such a good idea until... | |
| Man, it happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, interesting bit. | ||
| Hold on, hold on. | ||
| Interesting follow-up on this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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In a lengthy Facebook post on Friday, Netanyahu said he wished to clarify his remarks about the connection between Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini and the Nazis. | |
| He said that he, quote, did not mean to claim that in his conversation with Hitler in November 1941, the Mufti convinced him to adopt the final solution. | ||
| The Nazis decided that by themselves. | ||
| So even though he said that it was that, he was like, Facebook, let me make sure a far lesser number of people will see this. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The prime minister wrote that, quote, the decision to move from a policy of deporting Jews to the final solution was made by the Nazis, and it was not dependent on outside influence. | ||
| I feel like a guilt complex over committing a genocide is a better thing than not having a guilt complex over committing a genocide. | ||
| I mean, if you've got to choose one. | ||
| Like, look. | ||
| It's almost admirable that the German people care. | ||
| Because America does not care about the many genocides we've committed. | ||
| Some people do. | ||
| We have a genocider on our $20 bill. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, it seems like it would be nice if we had more guilt over that. | ||
| It would be nice if our genocides were recognized instead of celebrated. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's my position. | ||
| I know that's controversial. | ||
| I think your position is reasonable, but I just love the idea that Alex Jones comes up with a thing and is immediately shot down by the person who... | ||
| He said that thing. | ||
| He's clearly citing without saying, hey, Netanyahu said this. | ||
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| So that's great. | ||
| Well, it was actually Clarence Thomas. | ||
| It was actually Clarence Carter. | ||
| It could have been. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex Jones... | ||
| It was actually Chris Carter. | ||
| It was actually Aaron Carter, the party starter. | ||
| No, that's Darren Carter, the party starter. | ||
| It was actually Carter Page. | ||
| Also known as the rooster. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex Jones makes another bogus, wild claim about Hitler. | ||
| Hitler, of course, was going to work when he took over Russia to make an area of southern Russia the new Israel. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| And Hitler was also looking to send Jews to Palestine, which he saw as their homeland. | ||
| And that's why he met with the Grand Mufti, who said, no, we don't want them here. | ||
| Can you just kill them? | ||
| And the last few years of World War II, Hitler did, actually, because I've read the Pulitzer Prize winning books on the subject. | ||
| I mean, these are quotes by Hitler to go ahead with the final solution. | ||
| They didn't decide to go with the final solution until Hitler started losing at the beginning of the Battle of Leningrad. | ||
| And then it was Stalingrad. | ||
| And there was a tank battle south of that city about six months before where the Germans started to really think they were going to lose, started building towards that. | ||
| So then it shifted. | ||
| Don't shake the Jews down and get their money through the Jewish handlers that Hitler was working with. | ||
| Just go ahead and kill them. | ||
| And so they went to a policy of killing everybody. | ||
| And of course, they were killing a bunch of other groups. | ||
| It is true that it's wrong that Hollywood only focuses on Jews that were killed. | ||
| I mean, I think millions of Ukrainians killed by the Nazis, millions of Russians, I think millions of Poles killed. | ||
| I think they're just as valuable as Jewish people that were killed. | ||
| But on the other side of that equation, there's people that defend Hitler. | ||
| I mean, Hitler was a complete out-of-control lunatic. | ||
| I mean, just look at him. | ||
| Listen to him. | ||
| I mean, look what he did to Germany. | ||
| Good save. | ||
| I don't like that it ends with a fake laugh. | ||
| Fake laugh. | ||
| But, I mean, just in terms of, I mean, we've already talked about, you know, the debunking from Netanyahu of that argument. | ||
| Also, the... | ||
| Netanyahu didn't debunk it. | ||
| He walked it back. | ||
| He debunked Alex's claim. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Not debunking his own shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's got other problems. | ||
| So, also, the Siege of Leningrad took place on 8th of September, 1941. | ||
| That's when it began, the Leningrad. | ||
| Auschwitz was open from 1940. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I believe there was probably a whole bunch of stuff going on before the Siege of Leningrad. | ||
| Just my guess. | ||
| My guess. | ||
| Because Auschwitz wasn't the only camp. | ||
| I just don't understand how Hitler isn't something we can all agree on. | ||
| Like, isn't that crazy how white people are so obsessed with making Hitler not as bad? | ||
| Like, everybody agrees Hitler was bad. | ||
| Some of that must come from a shame complex. | ||
| Everybody agrees Hitler was bad, except for Alex, who only agrees that under duress. | ||
| Well, he just agrees that he's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like Dylan Roof. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Why is it that we can't just all be like, genocide is bad? | ||
| Why is it that every time somebody's in the midst of trying to commit a genocide, they're like, hey, we don't like Hitler, but apartheid is great. | ||
| Well, I mean, that's the same reason we have this. | ||
| Like, why is anyone against people who oppose fascism? | ||
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| I don't know. | ||
| It's the same historical conflation that we... | ||
| I wish people weren't so dumb. | ||
| It'd be nice. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| It'd be nice. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| So, Jordan. | ||
| Solve this problem. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| No, do it. | ||
| But I can't. | ||
| You're the one who knows a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| I can play you a fun clip. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Here's a fun clip. | ||
| That would be nice. | ||
| Here's a fun clip. | ||
| I would like a fun clip. | ||
| This one is nuts. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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See, the other thing I wanted to say was... | |
| Are people aware, I don't know if this is old or redundant, but that the Bushes have bought 200,000 acres in Paraguay. | ||
| It's been a couple of years ago. | ||
| They have their own port. | ||
| They have their own military. | ||
| And it's a fact, from what I know. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| It's a fact, from what I know. | ||
| And reportedly, Ken Lay staged his death, and he's down there. | ||
| Sirius News Media has seen him down there. | ||
| Ken Lay just lives there. | ||
| Ken Lay faked his death. | ||
| Ken Lay faked his death? | ||
| Serious media. | ||
| And lives in Paraguay? | ||
| Serious media. | ||
| Serious media said that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did we get warned by blogs? | ||
| What happened there? | ||
| It was probably on blogs. | ||
| Ken Lay faked his death. | ||
| Faked his death. | ||
| In prison. | ||
| Successfully. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Somehow was able to get his... | ||
| Fake dead body out of prison. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And get transported to this mythical globalist land. | ||
| In Paraguay. | ||
| The Paraguay that the fucking bushes have set up. | ||
| I don't doubt that the bushes have plots of land various places. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I bet most rich people have getaway spots and what have you. | ||
| Because they're monsters. | ||
| Yeah, I believe that that's obviously true. | ||
| What's not is that canon play faked his death. | ||
| I don't know, Dan. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I kind of do. | ||
| Look. | ||
| Dick Cheney can do anything. | ||
| That's all I'm going to say right now. | ||
| Look, I believe that it's possible someone killed Ken Lay in prison and they made it a suicide. | ||
| We can only hope. | ||
| Yeah, that's possible. | ||
| But the faking your own death and running away to Paraguay, not so sure. | ||
| So, on this 21st... | ||
| Look, if you can kill D 'Angelo in prison and make it look like a suicide... | ||
| Where's Wallace? | ||
| Where's Wallace? | ||
| Where's Wallace, man? | ||
| So, on this episode, the 21st... | ||
| Alex Jones also has an interview with the one and only Ronald Paul. | ||
| Ron Paul comes on. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| This promises to be fun, at least. | ||
| It's not? | ||
| It's not great. | ||
| What's the point of Ron Paul if it's not fun? | ||
| Well, Ron Paul just, I mean, he just talks about, actually, in this next clip, where we will find out if Alex Jones supports Trump yet, in this conversation with Ron Paul, Paul actually talks some sense. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He makes a little bit of sense. | ||
| But that's the danger of Ron Paul, though. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's the same danger with most third-party candidates, like Ross Perot. | ||
| Occasionally, Ross Perot talked real good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you're like, God damn it, I agree with you, Ross Perot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even though you're a fucking lunatic. | ||
| And that's the danger of Steve Pachanek, too. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because when he talks about hating neocons, you're like, yeah, I hate them, too. | ||
| All right. | ||
| What's next? | ||
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| And then you're like, Sandy Hook is fake? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
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Damn it. | |
| Fuck. | ||
| Damn it, man. | ||
| You had me going. | ||
| And that's what Ron Paul is able to achieve. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But here is, we finally get to find out if Alex Jones supports Trump. | ||
| Does he? | ||
| RonPaulLibertyReport.com. | ||
| One final question on the election. | ||
| Obviously, I'm supporting. | ||
| Rand Paul, because I know he's followed the Constitution. | ||
| He won't flip-flop like the other candidates. | ||
| Obviously, I like a lot of what Donald Trump has to say. | ||
| It's very populist. | ||
| It's very constitutional in some cases, but he said things about loving Hillary in the past and being four assault weapons bans, so I don't really trust him in the final equation, but what is your view of Donald Trump overall? | ||
| Do you think he's healthy for the campaign, healthy for the debate, or do you think he's unhealthy? | ||
| Well, if there was an absolute guarantee that the American people wouldn't be sucked in and make him president, you know, it'd be just entertainment. | ||
| And we would look at, like you point out, some good things, some bad things. | ||
| You could look at the good things and say, you know, he can do things and get away with, which many of us never could do. | ||
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Hey, when you're a celebrity, they let you get away with it. | |
| And he makes fun of the political process in the Republican and Democratic Party. | ||
| At the same time, he doesn't get pushed around with the media. | ||
| But I think trouble is coming, and he would have to live up to his word. | ||
| I will take charge. | ||
| I will get things done. | ||
| I know what's good. | ||
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I'm not looking for that. | |
| That, to me, is exactly the opposite of a libertarian society. | ||
| I don't want to tell people what to do. | ||
| I don't want to run the economy. | ||
| I don't want to tell the world what to do. | ||
| I want to deliver the liberty back to the individual, let the individual and local people take care of these problems, but I don't think Donald Trump would respond to that as the conditions break down. | ||
| I think he would use not only the bully pulpit, but I think he'd become a very tough bully to take over just the whole situation. | ||
| He does look ready to get on a big white horse, and that is exactly what this country doesn't need, but I think people support for him. | ||
| Shows the backlash against teleprompter politics, and I think that's the real issue there. | ||
| He doesn't support Trump yet! | ||
| Trump is exactly what the country doesn't need. | ||
| I'm furious! | ||
| Words to live by from Alex Jones. | ||
| That's a quote. | ||
| That's a direct quote. | ||
| Trump is exactly what the country doesn't need. | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| A couple of things that are fun. | ||
| Ron Paul is totally right in the sense that... | ||
| I would be okay with this if there's no way. | ||
| Yeah, if there's no way, then yeah, it's hilarious. | ||
| Or he can bring up things we can't bring up, much like the Jeb, hey, your brother was in charge on 9-11, you dick. | ||
| That sort of stuff. | ||
| No one else could get away with that. | ||
| Hey, you're complicit in war crimes, you asshole. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I get that you speak Spanish, but go fuck yourself. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That position, reasonable. | ||
| Especially because he's making it clear that I don't think he'd be a good president. | ||
| He's against the principles. | ||
| Of libertarianism, which, Alex, you pretend you fucking support. | ||
| Supposedly. | ||
| Supposedly. | ||
| He's fine with a little tyranny. | ||
| The other thing that, as time goes on, we need to start looking at is Rand Paul is clearly who he loves. | ||
| Rand Paul also supports Russia. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Rand Paul was one of the only people who did not vote for sanctions against Russia. | ||
| Wait, recently? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So was Bernie, though. | ||
| Right, but for different reasons. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| But also... | ||
| So with that sanctions bill... | ||
| Ron Paul is a frequent guest on RT. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| Refuse. | ||
| It's very true. | ||
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Really? | |
| That alone, it's not damning or anything like that. | ||
| It doesn't help your case, though. | ||
| Especially when we're starting to realize that all of this does seem to be more about Russia than it is about Trump. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That we can get to the point where we have... | ||
| and talk about, hey, Russia's great, all this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And eventually Steve Pachenik's argument is going to beat Ron Paul's argument. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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Because Steve Pachenik is all about Trump. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| This is our guy. | ||
| But he also is still saying maybe Ben Carson will be OK. | ||
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That's insane nonsense. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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In hindsight. | |
| As we can see from his housing and urban development position. | ||
| Well, in hindsight, the. | ||
| What they didn't know that we do is that it's insane the idea that you'd be like, those are my two guys. | ||
| But be that as it may, all of this seems to be about Russia and his love of... | ||
| No, I think Sheriff David Clark would be a great president. | ||
| Well, he also is involved with Russia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah! | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Isn't it odd? | ||
| The other thing is like... | ||
| I don't know anymore. | ||
| I just don't know. | ||
| I don't know what to do. | ||
| I just wish it didn't keep happening. | ||
| Everybody destroying everything has ties to Russia. | ||
| Seems like it. | ||
| And it seems like everyone who's being tricked is being tricked in the direction Russia wants people to be tricked. | ||
| That seems to be a very common theme. | ||
| Or they're clearly bought by the oligarchs, like your Mitch McConnells and your Paul Ryan. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Most likely. | ||
| We haven't proved it in court. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| We haven't proved it in court. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Seems like it, but who knows. | ||
| Either they're... | ||
| No, there's no other explanation. | ||
| They're bought and paid for by oligarchs. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Or they're fucking lunatics. | ||
| Or people like Julian Assange are bought by the oligarchs. | ||
| And the people are... | ||
| Yeah, but I kind of think Julian Assange has just lost his mind entirely. | ||
| He's ideologically fine with it? | ||
| I don't even think he... | ||
| I don't think he has anything other than he's just an insane person at this point. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| Like, he's been trapped in one room for a long time. | ||
| So, I don't... | ||
| I don't... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| Like, that's literal... | ||
| That's... | ||
| It's not one room. | ||
| That's the myth. | ||
| That's the myth. | ||
| Eh, it's not the point. | ||
| The point is, they've proven that that kind of isolation will make you go insane. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, I'm sure Assange, like, he's always been a complete and utter piece of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I'm sure at some point he had... | ||
| Shit ain't helping. | ||
| He had lofty ideals of, information should be free, and now it's just, he's an insane person. | ||
| Yeah, he's turned supervillain in his being ensconced in a building. | ||
| And if you are a megalomaniacal lunatic, of course you're gonna join with Russia, because it's the only other place that's like, hey, megalomania is great! | ||
| Also, another thing that bears pointing out is in 2017, in the last week on Alex Jones' show, he's had as a guest Alexander Dugan for the second time within a month. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| And a guy named Charles Johnson, who's ostensibly a journalist, is not. | ||
| He is a hack and a Russian pimp. | ||
| He pimps for Russia. | ||
| He pimps for Russia. | ||
| He was recently photographed outside of the Ecuadorian embassy meeting with Julian Assange. | ||
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Not great. | |
| And the other person who was there was Dana Rohrabacher. | ||
| Not good! | ||
| Who is the most pro-Russia senator, but he's just basically bought and paid for by Russia, constantly trying to pitch pro-Russia positions. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| Un-fucking-real. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Those are the people who Alex Jones has as a guest on his show now, and it makes sense if you look critically at what he was doing in the election. | ||
| It's not about Trump. | ||
| It never has been about Trump. | ||
| It's about Russia. | ||
| This whole thing is a whole... | ||
| It's a diversion. | ||
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God damn it! | |
| Trump is a diversion, and that's what I'm learning, and that makes this investigation really unsatisfying and really scary. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| And the fact that Alex didn't think to scrub the fucking internet is crazy. | ||
| Didn't even bother. | ||
| Because we may be witnessing a conspiracy unfold. | ||
| In public. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In public. | ||
| That you could just Google. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so insane! | ||
| But the reason that... | ||
| How many people do you... | ||
| Like, there are so many hundreds of millions of people in the United States who just don't know or don't care to find out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, this is truly one of the great military maneuvers in history. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, to have completely compromised an entire republic system at every level. | ||
| And without bloodshed. | ||
| With nothing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And to now own it almost entirely is incredible. | ||
| And the gambit is brilliant because if you control it, great. | ||
| And if you just sow complete crippling chaos, also great. | ||
| And if you lose, what, more sanctions? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We're already a non-economy. | ||
| Like, what do you want from us, you know? | ||
| And Putin and all the people he relies on to continue his power are... | ||
| Not really as affected by the sanctions. | ||
| Not affected at all! | ||
| They are to some extent, but to the extent that he still has hundreds of billions of dollars, and the oligarchs that make up his circle are all hugely rich, all the sanctions are really going to do at this point is trickle down to punish the citizens who are already being punished by him. | ||
| One time trickle-down economics is true. | ||
| Trickle-down economics works in the reverse. | ||
| If you are getting fucked, guess who it is? | ||
| The dick always goes... | ||
| I think that might be another Larry Nichols. | ||
| So, we've discovered, I think, and I've listened to the next couple episodes, the next week or so, and I think we're going to see this develop even more. | ||
| But, because David Knight takes over for the next four days or so, I want to walk you through... | ||
| David Knight's bullshit? | ||
| No. | ||
| October 22nd is the last day before Alex Jones disappears mysteriously. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I think what he's doing is having some secretive meetings. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I think he's going down and being coached or something like that. | ||
| Steve Pchenik might have set something up. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But it's very weird that you have this introduction of a psych warfare guy, and then you start supporting Le Pen, and then you skip a day, and then you disappear on a trip. | ||
| Now. | ||
| Now. | ||
| In order to just ensure that we don't get too far down this rabbit hole, Alex Jones does disappear, or does leave the show frequently. | ||
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A lot of vacations. | |
| So this is, timing-wise, very suspicious. | ||
| However, he does leave a lot, so I'm not willing to jump on board with that thought process just yet. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| Maybe he just got tired from carrying Rush's water for so long. | ||
| Speaking of water, most of the show is a long commercial for the Alexa Pure Water System that he's going to introduce into the Infowars store, which I think is why he stayed another day. | ||
| I think he would have left, because this show is uninspired and boring. | ||
| There is not much going on. | ||
| All he does is try and retcon the idea that Joe Biden was going to run for president, because now it's clear that he's not. | ||
| That news comes out that he's not running for president, and Alex Jones tries to re-own that or reclaim it by being like, that shows how much everyone's afraid of Hillary. | ||
| So no matter what, your narrative is going to fly. | ||
| So it doesn't matter. | ||
| But I have three drops that are just fun. | ||
| From October 22nd, excuse me, that we're just going to run through. | ||
| This episode needs to end fun because I think we've gotten too serious. | ||
| I've gotten so very depressed. | ||
| Yeah, so here you go. | ||
| Here's the first one. | ||
| I've got to find a crew member or somebody that's got a pregnant wife. | ||
| I need a pregnant woman as a prop. | ||
| I need a pregnant woman as a prop. | ||
| I need a pregnant woman that's a prop! | ||
| Somebody get me a pregnant woman! | ||
| Yeah, that's great. | ||
| No reason to explain why. | ||
| Put out a Craigslist ad. | ||
| That's a continuation of his I'm gonna go knock on people's doors and do publicity stunts. | ||
| I'm gonna bring a pregnant woman and make them give birth. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Here's the next one. | ||
| Energize me! | ||
| I will take the enemy on! | ||
| Empower me! | ||
| I need the funding! | ||
| I will attack! | ||
| That's not pathetic at all. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fond me! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Desperate. | ||
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Go to knowledgefight.com and click support the show! | |
| Yeah, fond us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So here's the last one, and this is less a quick out-of-context drop, but Alex Jones possibly wrestling with what will inevitably be his demise, but has not been yet. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We had... | ||
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Steve Pachanikon. | |
| And a lot of folks hear Steve Pachenik and they don't trust him because of the positions he's been in. | ||
| I'm not saying you should trust him. | ||
| But look at what he's told us over the years. | ||
| It's turned out to basically be true. | ||
| And he does do manipulative stuff where he was like, Jeb Bush should run. | ||
| He's a really great leader. | ||
| I really like him. | ||
| When he's saying George W. Bush is involved in 9-11 and should, you know, go on trial for treason. | ||
| And then it turns out he's been at the Council on Foreign Relations advising them to run Jeb Bush. | ||
| To set Jeb Bush up so they could then make it about 9-11. | ||
| I mean, when you're dealing with Pachinic, it is serious psychological warfare. | ||
| And he's not doing it to this broadcast. | ||
| He's here saying, America's going to win. | ||
| We're going to take the country back. | ||
| We're going to be positive. | ||
| Our military's going to be patriotic and not go along with this. | ||
| And it's been happening. | ||
| I'm not saying Pachinic is even 5% of the whole resistance at that level, but what he's saying is true and is being listened to. | ||
| And this broadcast is a format for that to happen. | ||
| That's pathetic. | ||
| That's incredibly sad. | ||
| Because he's even saying it on the show. | ||
| This guy is a manipulator. | ||
| He's lied to everyone, but he's not doing it to us. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You can trust him. | ||
| We're special. | ||
| Because he already says what I already say. | ||
| Right, and because he's told us he's not doing it to us. | ||
| Yeah, he said so. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You gotta trust him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I listen to him talk. | ||
| Seems honest. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I bet nobody else has heard him, be honest. | ||
| No, and I'm sure he's never told anybody else, hey, I'm not fucking with you. | ||
| It's one of those things where you see immediately how con men work and how you can... | ||
| And how marks work. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| You can... | ||
| Like everybody, every single person... | ||
| Who imagines that they would never be taken in by a con man for an instant. | ||
| Until they do. | ||
| And they are... | ||
| We're all... | ||
| I want to believe that I wouldn't be taken in by a con man simply because of doing this dumb fucking show where it's a... | ||
| No, I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Don't insult our listeners. | ||
| I'm just angry. | ||
| Where our entire deal is skepticism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But... | ||
| At the same time, you see people like Louise Mensch show up. | ||
| And you see all these different con men, and it doesn't matter what side you're on, plenty of people can be conned just by being told that what they already think is true. | ||
| It's like an astrologist. | ||
| Well, and especially... | ||
| You were born under this sign, and that means that you're a good person and you like going out, but sometimes you like staying in, and you're like, I already know that, so you must be telling the truth. | ||
| Well, beyond that, too, I think the connection between Louise Mensch and Alex Jones, at least in this sense, is the line that they feed you that you want to hear also involves inaction. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| It involves, like, because a lot of Louise Mench's narratives have to do with, hey, there's already sealed indictments and stuff like that. | ||
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Right. | |
| He's already been impeached. | ||
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Right. | |
| All this stuff. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| The only real functional outcome of that is you thinking, oh, it's all taken care of. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And to a certain extent, Alex Jones does the same things. | ||
| It's like, we've got these people like Steve Pachanek who are working it on the inside. | ||
| It's all a counter coup. | ||
| It's all happening. | ||
| Trump is going to... | ||
| I mean, he's not there yet, but he will be there eventually. | ||
| And the only thing he needs to scream and get action about is not... | ||
| Is not doing anything. | ||
| Right, except giving him money. | ||
| Yeah, stay out of the way, give me money, and we'll take care of it. | ||
| And Louise Mench does take money from people, but at the same time, she's not as overt as Alex. | ||
| But it could just be nascency. | ||
| It could be the beginning of an Alex Jones-like... | ||
| On the left. | ||
| But it probably will never happen. | ||
| Or not on the left, on the lie front. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is kind of a really good point that I hadn't thought about it. | ||
| It's like, don't fight. | ||
| But that's one thing that I hate getting updates from the Mueller investigation. | ||
| Like, you made a good point, and it kind of made me realize why it's like, I don't care what Mueller's doing. | ||
| He's got like a year before anything is gonna fucking happen. | ||
| Most likely. | ||
| I get that he's fucking subpoenaing people, but until something happens, who gives a fuck? | ||
| We have to fight him now. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| Everywhere. | ||
| So Mueller doesn't impeach him. | ||
| Mueller doesn't get his evidence in for seven months. | ||
| That means every fucking DACA recipient is already gone. | ||
| Well, but that's... | ||
| Not gone, but you know. | ||
| But here's where I think Dan the Centrist comes in a little bit. | ||
| Dan the Centrist! | ||
| I think that... | ||
| Can we play in your entrance music? | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| I think that it's reasonable to be dismissive of these attention-grabbing new things in Mueller's investigation, but at the same time not be discounting the entirety of it. | ||
| The goal, I think, is to look forward to whatever that investigation finds, because I think it's going to be damning. | ||
| But at the same time, not let this image of some deus ex machina that's going to come down the road that we have no control over stop us from taking direct action in terms of the things that are going to be a problem in the immediate. | ||
| Because all that stuff like with DACA, there isn't anything in his investigation that's going to be involving that. | ||
| That takes people calling senators. | ||
| That takes people getting on the street. | ||
| So you have to do those things and not become complacent with the idea he's going to get impeached eventually. | ||
| You have to balance it. | ||
| He is going to get impeached eventually. | ||
| But at the same time, each time there is something that he tries to... | ||
| But again, Tamer has a 4% approval rating in Brazil. | ||
| He is caught on tape committing a crime by offering bribes. | ||
| And what happened? | ||
| Well... | ||
| Fuck all. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| We're not Brazil. | ||
| And we're not Kenya. | ||
| There are a lot of... | ||
| Different countries work different ways. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And hopefully, you know... | ||
| I just don't like the precedents that are being set. | ||
| But that's not a precedent for our courts. | ||
| That's a precedent for theirs. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| The idea is, I think, and I think the lesson that we're all learning in a very... | ||
| Except Gorsuch is on the Supreme Court. | ||
| So... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not a great thing. | ||
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But... | |
| I know that's scary. | ||
| But at the same time, I think... | ||
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Oh boy. | |
| Yeah, that is a bad... | ||
| That's a bad... | ||
| It's a bad thing, isn't it? | ||
| Hey, how did it work when we had five conservative Supreme Court justices in 2000, Dan? | ||
| Not great. | ||
| How did that go down? | ||
| Not great. | ||
| Did it go down well? | ||
| Not great. | ||
| No. | ||
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But... | |
| I don't know what I was going to say. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| The thing is, the lesson that we're learning the very hard way is that our institutions don't save us, and our traditions aren't real unless we make them real. | ||
| And so, the things that are being pushed that are against our values, that are against American principles, it is behooving us to take action to keep fighting? | ||
| Keep... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I like... | ||
| I don't even know what you can do. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You can tweet. | ||
| You can tweet stuff. | ||
| We can do this show. | ||
| We can try. | ||
| There's things you can do, but you have to do those things, because without them, there's nothing. | ||
| There's nothing. | ||
| There's nothing standing in the way of just complete demolition of... | ||
| All of America. | ||
| Well, not all of America, but all of the games. | ||
| Well, all of non-white America. | ||
| All of the games. | ||
| But even then, they're destroying... | ||
| All of the games that we've made towards building a better society since the times of Upton Sinclair. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, all of the stuff that we... | ||
| We don't want to return to that hellscape. | ||
| And if we don't act, we will. | ||
| At the same time, Mueller's investigation probably will turn up some dark shit. | ||
| Oh, it's already turned up dark shit. | ||
| So there we go. | ||
| It's a balance. | ||
| I imagine that at a certain point, somebody in Mueller's investigation, like one of the lower level people, is going to catch wind that nothing is going to happen and be like, I know all the real shit. | ||
| I got to do this. | ||
| I got to take this into my own hands. | ||
| And then he's going to go on Alex Jones. | ||
| And just start fucking people up. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Let's hope. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But we'll see what happens. | ||
| I don't know, Dan. | ||
| Will we see what happens? | ||
| Who knows. | ||
| Will we live long enough to see what happens? | ||
| We will live long enough to be at North Bar. | ||
| This Saturday, guys. | ||
| September 9th. | ||
| The show will not be this long. | ||
| If you're worried that you're going to come to a three and a half hour podcast. | ||
| You're not. | ||
| Or if you're excited that you're going to come to a three and a half hour podcast. | ||
| Then it's going to happen. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
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No, it's going to happen. | |
| Who knows? | ||
| We make no promises. | ||
| Yeah, we intend for it to be about an hour and a half. | ||
| But that is true every time. | ||
| As if that's possible. | ||
| But you can check us out at knowledgefight.com. | ||
| That's our website. | ||
| We have a bunch of goodies on there. | ||
| You can find our cool-ass flyer on there. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| We have a cool-ass flyer. | ||
| Yeah, super cool. | ||
| You can follow us on at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| On Twitter. | ||
| That's where you can follow us. | ||
| You can subscribe to us on iTunes or listen to us wherever podcasts. | ||
| That's not entirely true. | ||
| I haven't set it up on Stitcher yet. | ||
| I need to do that. | ||
| Then you can listen to us on some places where podcasts are. | ||
| Some places that have been automatically aggregated that I'm not aware of, probably. | ||
| Also, frankly, if you're already listening to this podcast, you found where to find it. | ||
| I also apologize to all our Android listeners. | ||
| I'll get Stitcher figured out eventually. | ||
| Although I've heard bad things about them, so I might not want to get involved. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Well, they supported the Nazis in 1941. | ||
| We're now on Earwolf. | ||
| We're not. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| Feral Audio does a makeup podcast, but they would never have anything to do with us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Too long. | ||
| Too dumb. | ||
| Too long. | ||
| But anyway, you guys know anybody at Feral? | ||
| Let him know that we are shitting on them. | ||
| Not shitting on them. | ||
| No, wait, what? | ||
| I wasn't shitting on him. | ||
| You might be. | ||
| Also, we're on Facebook. | ||
| You can check us out there. | ||
| It's just Knowledge Fight. | ||
| Please leave a review. | ||
| Send a message. | ||
| We love to communicate with folks as best we can. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| There's probably some emails I haven't responded to. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Hey, here's a question, Dan. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| If you were on Facebook... | ||
| But let's say you were a guy with a long crazy beard and fake teeth who had never hung up a picture in his life. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And you were also, but you knew some Knowledge Fight listeners. | ||
| What would Knowledge Fight listeners comment onto one of your posts? | ||
| Dude, I bet he does have a Facebook. | ||
| Oh shit, I bet he does have a Facebook. | ||
| Guys, let's all find John Rappaport on Facebook. | ||
| Guys, Knowledge Fight commenters! | ||
| Call to action! | ||
| What should we say? | ||
| No, I know that's the bit, but fuck you, John Rappaport is too mean to just send, like, I don't want our listeners just directly insulting him like that. | ||
| That's true, we're not that kind of people, are we? | ||
| No, even though we say it at the end of every show. | ||
| Goddammit, we want to be those kind of people. | ||
| No, but I don't want our listeners to harass a man. | ||
| No, that seems bad. | ||
| I would rather them post loaded questions. | ||
| I don't know, maybe insulting questions about his various medical frauds. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| For making us grapple with this issue, I just want to say, go fuck yourself, John Rapoport! | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |