Knowledge Fight - #78: October 12-15, 2015

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#78: October 12-15, 2015

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Jordan Holmes and Dan Friesen dissect Alex Jones’ 2015 clips, exposing his baseless attacks on The Martian as propaganda, false TV credits, and absurd claims about lesbians and schools. They mock Sheriff David Clark’s anti-Obama rhetoric and his NRA trip to Russia led by Crimea-invading hardliner Dmitry Rogozin, questioning pro-Trump collusion. Jones’ pro-Russia bias—from praising Putin to pushing vaccine conspiracies—mirrors Kremlin narratives, while his "Hillary for Prison" trolling and CIA smears reveal a pattern of fabricated outrage. Ultimately, their analysis reveals how Jones weaponizes fear, cherry-picks history, and amplifies fringe theories to radicalize audiences under the guise of patriotism. [Automatically generated summary]
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alex jones

infowars 26:10

dan friesen

01:39:52

jordan holmes

48:57

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bernie sanders

sen/d 00:50

joe biggs

infowars 02:19

paul craig roberts

00:45

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Speaker	Time	Text
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a first-time caller.
		I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
unidentified		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We are a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages while talking about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is there a twist to this conversation that you and I have regularly, perhaps multiple times per week?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a mix-em-up that we do.
		Mix-em-up?
		The show could just be two fucking dudes who sit around and talk about a thing that they both are experts in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like Charlie Rose or something like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You get two really smart folks who are, you know, they know a lot about the topic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Both of whom are emotionally even keeled.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, but that's not us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We are a little bit nuts, and I know a lot about Alex Jones, and you do not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know anything about Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we sit down and talk about him, and I explain what's going on in his world.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then via that, we get into a lot of the issues plaguing all of us and how we're all going to die immediately.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're all fucked immediately.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you know what's not fucked, ladies and gentlemen?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nice!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nice!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Seltzer water, along with a little bit of T-Does vodka.
		Absolutely.
		Helps the world go down a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a Saturday hangover T-Does and soda day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the plan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the cure for what ails you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that's actually true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Speaking of what cures.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alcohol, the cause of and solution to all of life's problems.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is not a cause, but it is a solution to a lot of problems.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to give a shout out to one of our donators.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Will Shakespeare.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Shakespeare.
		I'd like to give a shout out to our new donor.
		What's going on out there, Mike W?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you would like to become a policy wonk yourself, you may do so by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the support the show button.
		Then you can become a policy wonk.
		It's a delightful status to have.
		I might have undersold that.
unidentified		It's a delightful status.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody should update their Facebook policy or their Facebook status as.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got a Facebook policy?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a Facebook policy wonk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, today we are going to be back in 2015.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we will be covering the span of time between October 12th and October 15th.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And today is earth-shattering.
		Today, we make some real progress, or do we?
		Only one way to find out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is happening?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Listen to this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is going on?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What is this?
		You know what?
		I went to therapy today.
		I walked like five miles home from therapy.
		So you're catching me on like weird moves.
unidentified		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Weird mood.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Almost like you've meditated.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Almost like I'm in a decent headspace and it might get a little silly.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't like it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's nothing silly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Stop looking at that Fitbit, you son of a bitch.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It says feed me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I looked at it.
		It says, feed me steps.
		Oh, all right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Get rid of that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Get rid of it now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to drop it in my pocket.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is the technocracy that we've all been fighting against all these years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is right all along.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It turns out I am a slave to my wristband.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fucking global Fitbits.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		It's all a globalist plot.
		We all know that.
		But before we get to today's show, I'd like to start off with two out-of-context drops from Alex Jones.
		That's right.
		It's a special episode.
		We got two.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Elen diplomats lead slaves around in New York on change.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Big news item.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Where?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		New York.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can you find them?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, New York's a big city.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Where else would you hide but in plain sight?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		With your slaves on chains.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		With your slaves on chains, yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a normal thing for diplomats to do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, certainly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is Die Hard 2, isn't it?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, the next out-of-context drop, I'm actually going to set up a tiny bit because the whole purpose of us going back to 2015 in the investigation is to try and figure out when Alex Jones decided he loved Donald Trump.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is the whole point.
		But along the way, it's interesting to figure out what he thinks about other candidates.
		And so, actually, on the span of time we're going over today, Alex Jones discusses what he thinks about Bernie Sanders.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And here's what he thinks about him.
bernie sanders ▲ ● ▼		He's saying that it is immoral and wrong that the top one-tenth of 1% in this country own almost 90%, own almost as much wealth as the bottom 90%.
		That it is wrong today in this economy that 57% of all new income is going to the top 1%.
		That when you look around the world, you see every other major country providing health care to all people as a right, except the United States.
		You see every other major country saying to moms that when you have a baby, we're not going to separate you from your newborn baby because we are going to have medical and family paid like every other country on earth.
		Those are some of the principles that I believe in.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		People from the UK come here to get health care, and our healthcare is screwed up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		People from Canada come here.
unidentified		He just sits there and goes, everywhere else is a totally wonderful place.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to McDonald's.
		May I have some dance?
		I have a 70 IQ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Shit, that was not an out-of-context drop.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope, that was an entirely in-context drop.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it turns out whenever you're editing things down, I have the ability to either export an entire clip that I record or export a part that I have highlighted.
		And sometimes I fuck that up.
		So I highlighted the portion I wanted and accidentally exported the entire thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is the problem with you in a good headspace, Dan.
		You're not focused.
		You're too happy.
		You're going around thinking about all the good things that could happen instead of here, locked in your room, fastidiously getting these clips cut.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I apologize.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to throw this bit away.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But you know what's interesting about that clip?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The thing that amazed me listening to it is as petty and stupid as Alex was being, he let Bernie talk a lot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He let Bernie talk almost the whole time, and he didn't have anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He didn't have anything to come back with.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Except with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that was it.
		I think the reason for that is Alex is aware that most of his audience isn't really aware of Bernie Sanders.
		And so if he just started doing the, because obviously he's trying to do a, pardon my expression, a retard voice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't think that his audience would really register what he's getting at if he didn't play a clip for context.
		Yeah, but I always think that there's a reason for why he either talks over or doesn't talk over a clip.
		When he talks over it, he's either trying to show dominance or he just doesn't give a shit and wants to score points.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When he does let people talk, he's either reverent to them or he knows that he needs context in order to score points later, like with that shitty impression.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
		It kind of.
		Well, it is October in 2015, so that means Bernie had not yet become the most popular politician in the United States.
		Yes.
		As he is now.
		He was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At this point, he's just a socialist.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex hates socialists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But listen.
unidentified		God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it, Bernie.
		God damn it, weren't you the president?
		But if you are an Alex Jones listener and you hear that, that's one of those things that It surprises me because that is a hugely popular position across the spectrum.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So if you're an Alex Jones listener, you're not hearing any of these conspiracy theories.
		You're just hearing Bernie make a goddamn lot of sense.
		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if you're Alex Jones listener, if you're an Alex Jones listener and you hear Bernie Sanders being played on Alex's show, you know that the context is that this guy is lying.
		Of course he's going to say that you're going to get all these things, but that's just a trap to get to tyranny.
		Because Alex has already laid that sort of narrative bed in place.
		So even if Bernie Sanders comes on and says all the things that obviously you would want to hear, it doesn't matter.
		It's not going to convince you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But isn't Bernie saying in a real fashion what Alex says in a false one?
		Isn't Bernie isn't he let Bernie talk?
		He let Bernie talk the real problem, which is the top one-tenth of 1% own more wealth than the bottom 90%.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he refuses to call them globalists.
		And Bernie Sanders won't audit the Fed.
		Alex has complained about that past two.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And Bernie is a big Jew.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's that too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is a big issue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he would pretend that doesn't matter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, but it does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In their world, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So let's jump into this, Jordan.
		We're going to start on October 12th.
		I'm telling you, there's a lot of interesting stuff we've got to discuss coming up.
		It's fairly fun.
		Fairly?
		Really underselling everything today.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		i know uh so here let's start this clip we're off You're off, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you want me to come back after somebody's broken your heart or something so we can really get you into the right headspace to deal with all this shit?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hold on, let me read my emails from 2015.
		Don't really bump me out.
		So here we go.
		Here's the first clip.
		Alex starts off his show on the 12th explaining that you cannot compromise with a globalist.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And yes, national sovereignty does not exist.
		The family does not exist.
		Mother and father does not exist.
		Private property does not exist.
		The Amish do not exist.
		You will be assimilated.
		We are the board.
		Submit or be destroyed.
		It's so over the top that only a complete flipping against it has any chance.
		And I was driving into work this morning.
		I was thinking, how do we get people to break their conditioning?
		And it's just that.
		People have to realize that you can't be reasonable.
		You can't compromise with the globalist or the so-called political left.
		They are not the left.
		They are hardcore, brazen, scientifically focused groups conquering us.
		When you get to even mid-level managers of the left, they will laugh if you're sitting around a cocktail table with them and say, of course we're taking over.
		Of course we're conditioning people.
		Tell us something we don't know.
		I hate minorities.
		I mean, it's just, oh, you ought to join us, you fool.
		That's who they are.
		Of course we're aborting the blacks.
unidentified		Well, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then the left, the general population just sits there like mindless victims, like children climbing into a beat-up white creeper van because they heard ice cream truck music coming out of it.
		There's a demonic wildcat inside that vehicle to tear you apart.
		Why would you?
		They are enemies.
		They are consciously evil.
		And if you don't get that through your head and realize they're psychotic predators and sociopaths and mercenaries under them, you have no hope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So you got a lot of questions, but I want to just say that I've started to notice that Alex Jones starts off a disproportionate amount of his shows by trying to really demonize his opponents, the left, and it just serves to radicalize his base.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, go ahead.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're a kid.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You hear the ice cream truck music.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that a weird dark carnival?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There weren't any ice cream trucks in my hometown growing up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There was just evil carnivals.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there were a lot of classes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, is Stephen King's it?
		Yeah, the whole thing.
		No.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Beat up creeper van.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You go inside hoping for ice cream.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		On one hand, you might find a pedophile.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, on the other, however, you might find a demonic wildcat.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What about just a wildcat?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which one is preferable?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What about just like a straight-up wildcat?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't have to worship Satan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, you want a demonic cat.
unidentified		A wild cat.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be dangerous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look, I know wildcats are dangerous, but that's out of fear.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A demonic wildcat, that's out of anger and hate.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That could be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a stronger cat.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you might be right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And a demonic wildcat, I'm assuming, is like at least 15% bigger.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that is true.
		It's like steroids.
		It's like anabolic steroids.
		When you worship the devil, you just get beefy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You get a little bit bigger.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Everyone knows that.
		It's in the white paper.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's WikiLeaks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the other thing you seem to glom onto is Alex's mention of the Amish.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, why was that there?
		The Amish don't exist.
		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a little minor narrative that he sells from time to time, one of his waypoints back in 2015 that I haven't really deemed to discuss.
		Right.
		But there was an Amish cheese seller that got raided by the government.
		And it was because he wasn't using appropriate pasteurization techniques and stuff there.
		And he was selling his cheese across state lines.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So he was committing crimes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There were commerce issues and then also health issues.
		And Alex was like, they raided him.
		It took a year.
		It was a, you know, it's nonsense.
		But that's why he brought up the Amish.
		He's dumb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a weird.
		That's a weird way to go.
		Also, would he be for or against the Amish?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's for them in this case.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's mad because it's the federal government, because it's like interstate trade and stuff like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is why we have a federal government for interstate stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't appreciate that.
		He thinks it's oppression.
		Who cares?
		Look, we've got to move on because the next clip is so much fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If there's one thing that I hate, it's oppressing the Amish.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I love all my.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oppressing the Amish with these silly federal laws and breaking them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I grew up Mennonite, man.
		I love my Anabaptist peeps.
		Shout out.
		Shout out, Mennos.
		Anyway, this next clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This next clip, Alex Jones brings up some protests that have been happening in Austin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I got some interesting insight into this on the other side of it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It was in the Houston Chronicle, and I saw the headline, and I said, is this a joke?
		And I went to the URL.
		It wasn't the onion.
		Spoofing the Houston Chronicle.
		And then it was in the Austin American Statesman that the left is going to.
		It was the headline in the Statesman.
		I couldn't believe.
		Students to wear giant dildos in Cox for Glocks.
		This is in the paper.
		But everybody reads.
		Front page of the paper.
		Statesman.
		Also in the Houston Chronicles where I first saw it.
		And he said, well, it's just silly.
		It's stupid.
		That's how they're going to protest people with guns on campus.
		But no, it's pure genius.
		It's just mindless stupidness to just confuse everything.
		It's CIA warfare.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's CIA warfare.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I don't know if you remember this, but I mentioned on a recent episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dildos.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a dildo protest.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a CIA warfare.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I remember the dildo protest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My dad was a fan of the family.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I did not realize that the CIA was behind it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, are you sure?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, if your dad was a speaker there, then he has a vested interest in making sure no one knows that it was the CIA that was behind it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're not going to get an honest answer out of your dad.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're right.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well.
		That brings us to our new segment.
		Never trust Dan's dad.
		He is a CIA theologist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In the same way that Alex Jones' dad has a CIA dentist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, indeed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if you want to take his perspective with a grain of salt, even though he's a CIA religious studies professor, I called him earlier and we chatted a little bit about this because he was a speaker at the protest.
unidentified		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex Jones is wildly misrepresenting what happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, hold?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the reality is that it was a student-led protest, this dildo protest.
		And as my dad characterized it, faculty could never do that.
		They would get fired.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you had a faculty involved dildo protest on campus, they'd be like, we got to sit you down with a dean.
		Do you have tenure?
		No, you're gone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Goodbye.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it started out as kind of a social media joke.
		People were against open carry on campus, especially guns being carried in buildings, like campus buildings and stuff like that.
		So these students, they realized that it's a decency crime to carry a dildo openly on campus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But not a gun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		You would get America's fault.
		It's fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		America's great, right, Dan?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't you love America?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We always make sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so they started this camp, like not really even a serious campaign at the onset, but just pointing out that absurdity on a Facebook group or whatever, and then it spawned a real protest out of it.
		It launched and they're like, oh, we're actually going to do it.
		On the same day, Gun-Free UT, which is the sort of, I would characterize it, my dad didn't totally agree with this, but how I would sort of just the broad strokes version is that's the adult version.
		Right.
		They happened to have a speakers-based protest against the open carry stuff at the same time.
		So there was the student-led dildo protest that dovetailed into the adult gun-free UT protest.
		And yeah, that's, I mean, it's not the CIA.
		It's just smart students realizing, hey, it's illegal for us to have dildos out in public, but guns are cool.
		Yeah.
		And CIA.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is fun.
		That's a fun way to fight against what is clearly absurd.
		Like, you can't fight on that direct level of their dumb anger and stupidity.
		You have to point out, look at you silly children.
		That's what you gun people are.
		You might as well be holding dildos because you're idiots.
		So we're going to mock you, and then you'll get angry and you'll go underground and you'll go on stormfront.com and come out as a Nazi.
		Thanks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It turns out, yeah, that nothing you do is really effective.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It turns out all is meaningless.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's all a disaster.
		I just love that because on the last time he talked about a gun-free UT protest, he said Michael Bloomberg flew everyone in.
		At this time, he's saying it's CIA tactics and stuff like that.
		And he's just making this stuff up.
		It's crazy.
		Like, I'm thrilled that I have a family member who was directly involved in the protest.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's very cool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It gives me an ability to look into the actual truth of it.
		But I just, I don't think that people listening to Alex Jones who like him realize how often he is just making stuff up.
		Like, Bloomberg didn't fly anybody in.
		Bloomberg wasn't involved in that protest at all.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This isn't CIA tactics.
		It's clowning on fools.
		It's basically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The CIA is not well known for clowning on fools.
unidentified		Well, extreme clowning.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what we call overthrown government.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was going to say.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, yeah, but they didn't do it like they didn't turn many regimes into nothing by airdropping DVDs of Operation Dumbo drop.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that would be clowning.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be clowned.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be straight clowned.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, Alex does a little clowning himself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We know that he's a man who loves the arts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't even make it through that sentence.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
		He fancies himself something of a cultural critic.
		Yes.
		And in this clip, Paul Joseph Watson is in the studio, and it turns out the two of them have gone and seen a movie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they decide to have a look.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Waiting together?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's gross.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Anthony Gucciarti.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet they're the two guys who, like, they can't sit next to each other.
unidentified		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They can't sit next to each other.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They have to have like two or three chairs in between them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and still insist on talking throughout.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Paul.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This movie is about globalists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be a shitty MST3K if it's just the two of them watching an old movie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, this is about global is right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure every movie that's their response.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But here is Alex Jones critiquing the Matt Damon movie The Martian.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Saw articles.
		In fact, I'm going to tell you guys to do this.
		Google Asian group criticizes the Martian for not enough Asians.
		We went and saw The Martian.
		Super boring, super stupid, super politically incorrect.
		Myself, Anthony, and Paul.
		Super.
		I mean, I want to get your brief review.
		You don't know you'd be in here doing this.
		Total mind control.
		The whole thing politically correct.
		And women are in charge of everything.
		Men are bumbling idiots, except for the Martian, Matt Damon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he's not actually.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We can't even build our rockets.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's not actually from Martin.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We have to go to the Communist Chinese.
		Shows the Pullet Bureau in China saving America with the communists voting to save our astronaut.
		Well, it's the Russian boosters we've got to have.
		So it's not even accurate.
		I mean, the Chinese rockets blow up.
		The U.S. rockets blow up.
		It's the Russians who still have the best heavy lifters, but they don't even have the Russians in it.
		The people sitting there don't even know.
		The whole movie is international propaganda.
		And it's every movie's like this, folks.
		They just hammer you with brainwashing.
		Sorry, and the whole movie worships Chinese people, and then the Chinese group bitches to add more to it.
unidentified		Double fake last space program, even when they went to Earth orbit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There were questions, serious questions asked.
unidentified		You know, if they faked that footage because it just looked like they were doing it underwater.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So for the Chinese to come to the rescue in this film.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it was.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're not bashing the Chinese.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're real smart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's clearly what you were doing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We use Russian heavy lifters.
		The movie is horse crap.
		All of its deception.
		All of its BS.
unidentified		Scott, I'm sick of the lying, demonic culture.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there's a couple of things.
unidentified		So what did he want out of the movie?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He wanted Russia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He wanted Russia to be portrayed as the heroes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He just wanted Russian rocket boosters?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because technologically that's accurate or something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a couple things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of issues with the Martians' science and whether or not it's real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But also, it is not real, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's fiction.
		It's fiction.
		The things that I want to pull out of this that I think are really important are: if this was just someone else saying, like, well, in reality, the Chinese space program isn't as evolved as blah, Actually, the Russian space program is really advanced.
		Like, if it was anybody else, I'd be like, wow, interesting point.
		But since it's Alex and we've seen his very hard boner for Russia, it seems weird that in this movie review, he's even got to talk about how great Russia is.
		So that's one thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I noticed that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other thing that I think is even more important to pull out is that it's not propaganda.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		China is a giant emerging market for films.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't understand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Propaganda.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So when movies want to be able to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Russian rocket boosters, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Movies don't make as much domestically as they do internationally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And when you do take that into consideration, often you do have to pander a little.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We call it the Transformers effect.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or even the Fast and Furious.
		But I don't think that that's craven or fake.
		I think that's sincerely multicultural and beautiful.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But other movies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As opposed to the Transformers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a lot of other ones are a little bit...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As opposed to somehow making robots racist.
		Yeah.
		That's...
		That's a new one.
		Thanks, Michael Bay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very racist and hacky altogether.
		Yeah, yeah.
		You did it.
		Alex thinks that it's propaganda and.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And let me tell you about my problem with The Rock.
		Okay?
		Uh-oh.
		Now, I'm telling you right here, Nicholas Cage is the bad guy in the rock.
		That's the truth?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I thought you meant.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you know why?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, do you know why?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not enough Russians.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Too many chi-coms.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if even that's a way to make a science.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a Russian nuclear weapon that he's going to blow up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sick of this culture.
		So ridiculous.
		So, Alex Jones, cultural critic, continuing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Can you be mad at the Martian?
unidentified		For just depicting a different.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I could see reasonable critiques of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, no, no.
		I didn't think it was like an amazing movie or anything like that.
		And there was a lot of science that is, of course, narratively expedient.
		And it was written by it was a book that was written, what, like 10 years ago or something like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Something like that.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was an all right book.
		It makes potatoes from spoop.
		It's fun.
		Everybody have a good time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When you talk about movies being scientifically expedient, it's like, hey, guy, hey, guy, that's how movies are done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't understand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's how science fiction movies work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't have to explain shit because they can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't you, Dan?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's predictive programming.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't need hard sci-fi in movies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would be exhausting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Stargates.
		Stargates are real.
		We know this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Andrew Basiago told me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Time travel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Alex Jones is still a cultural critic in this next clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think his main issue is that he didn't.
		Matt Damon didn't meet all of the other Martian soldiers that are actually there fighting wars.
		Yeah, exactly.
		Which is why they kidnapped those kids.
		If there was a scene in the Martian, if we could now.
		And we could just splice it in where Matt Damon turns around and he's like, wait, what the fuck are those kids doing here for Terry Cassidy's review of the movie?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Where are the bases?
		Where are the bases?
		So this next clip, Alex Jones, cultural critic, like I said, continues.
		He's mad that there aren't enough shows on television about guns.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Boy, what TV show doesn't have guns in it now?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're not all about guns, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex has some thoughts about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Naked and Afraid is very specifically anti-gun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because you can't even carry a horse.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't even carry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't even know where you would put it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can't open carry up your butthole.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, if only you could, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's concealed.
		So this is a half and half.
		This clip, he has a lot of thoughts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're really good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has a lot of thoughts about gun television, and then he lies real hard about how popular he is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But a free person, a person who's not a slave, to quote Thomas Jefferson, has the right to own Will Johnson.
		And it's a fight between the logical people that know more guns means less crime and the poor fools that have never been around guns.
		Every metric, every study, every poll shows we're winning the fight against abortion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		None of those.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In the hearts and minds, we're winning those.
		We're on the offensive.
		That's why the enemy's moving so fast.
		And a counteroffensive.
		And we're winning the fight on guns.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's why I was told by History Channel, by Discovery Channel, by AE, and by one of the major production companies that produces reality television, that three years ago the order came down, and I talked about it at the time, and you saw it in the news, that they were going to cancel all the major pro-gun shows that were number one on every channel.
		Number one for those channels were gun shows.
		And by the way, I host.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's talking about those fucking duck guys, right?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Currently, two shows on Discovery 2 on history.
		It's not like I'm just here.
		I'm the main commentator on four shows that are currently airing.
		So, believe me, I've been offered a lot of TV shows.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you have.
		Wait.
		I'm sorry I sort of shut you down there.
		I just wanted to make sure that everyone heard him say he currently hosts two shows on Discovery and two shows on the History Channel.
		He has four television shows.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
		No, that's true.
		How can he even possibly say that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's only one way, and it's like over the last 15 years, he's hosted four pilots that never made it to air.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, or something like that.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I've got his IMDb open now, and boy, howdy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There are not four shows on there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would he say that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The only one that's possibly what he's talking about, and actually, I mean, we're in 2015 here in the investigation.
		This show ended.
		It got canceled in 2014.
		There's a show called America's Book of Secrets, where it's like a talking heads show, but about the episodes he's on are about secret prisons, the billionaire agenda, Area 51, Freemasons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's on nine episodes of that out of like 35.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I did not know he was allowed on television anywhere.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but he was also on Jesse Ventura's conspiracy theory show.
		He's like a consultant that Jesse Ventura goes to for stuff.
		But that was in 2012.
		So that can't be what he's talking about.
		America's Book of Secrets wasn't on the History Channel.
		It was on H2, the secondary history channel.
		And if you go past that, the only credits he has where he's not an actor, and he has three of those, two Richard Link later movies and American, the only things he has after America's Book of Secrets until the Joe Rogan experience are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Joe Rogan experiences on his IMDb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, apparently.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then Get Me Roger Stone.
		Those are this year.
		Before that, Gray State The Rise, which is a video documentary, which means that wasn't on television.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sounds like a solid name for a video game, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would play Gray State the Rise.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think it's a video game.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a video documentary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I know, but I'm saying if it was a video game, I would play that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe about Alien Gray is running around?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe about Dorian Gray.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Conspiracy Theorists Lie, which is a documentary about how he's a giant liar.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wish.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just about Alex being a liar.
unidentified		I wish.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's about the Kennedy assassination.
		Okay.
		The Conspiracy Theory Conspiracy, which is a documentary about conspiracy theories being a conspiracy, as I'm guessing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Might as well go deep into the rabbit hole on that one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then Revelation, Dawn of Global Government.
		All of these are one-off documentaries that probably didn't air on normal television.
		Gotcha.
		So he's not the host of anything.
		He's just fucking lying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Main commentator on four shows.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In 2015.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Currently.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Currently.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As that moment.
		Fuck it.
		He's still the main commentator on four shows.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I get a lot of offers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I get a lot of offers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's been on TV.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If he got a fucking offer, I guarantee he'd drop everything and be like, David Knight, you're in.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You take over the show for the next two weeks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go shoot some stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like John Cena does.
		He takes time off the WWE, shoots a season of that American Grit show, and then comes back.
		Alex would do the exact same fucking thing, get a paycheck.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he doesn't have to push so goddamn hard, sell this boner shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Super male vitality.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You brought John Cena up again.
unidentified		There we go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You didn't do the theme song.
		I was mad.
		I was mad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a great theme.
		I was mad.
		So also the idea that the no-gun show stuff is a narrative that's been pushed on Alex's show by Ted Nugent because he's mad that his show got canceled.
		Right.
		That's basically what Alex is talking about.
unidentified		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But just horse shit.
		I mostly kept that in because of the, I'm on four shows.
		No, you aren't, bro.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, the idea that Discovery, the History Channel, and A ⁇ E would all just go to him and be like, hey, no more gun shows.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		None.
unidentified		Three years ago, we're going to get rid of them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would they tell Alex that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Especially when there's still.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Unless Alex is like, hey, what if I made a show out of guns?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's still so many shows about guns on.
		There's like this top shot.
		I don't know if that's still on.
		But I mean, there's that whole world.
		Yeah, Duck Dynasty heavily featured a lot of shooting.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's tons of stuff like that.
		Alex is just like, why isn't there more?
		There's never enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he loves guns.
		And get this.
		He's not just a guy who loves guns.
		He is also a prophet.
		He is also someone who proselytizes about guns.
		And you know what?
		It's fucking successful.
		Not only is Alex out there spreading the good word about guns to his right-wing audience, he's also converting a lot of dumb, dumb liberals who happen to have television shows on HBO.
		Yeah, that's right.
		Check this shit out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait a second.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure, because if you take a trendy out and you teach him to shoot, Mike Judge and I get him.
		Not once, not twice, but three times.
		He's back in town.
		He tried to go see him.
		I need to call him.
		Not name-dropping.
		I just remember I need to call him.
		He brings out a bunch of Hollywood people out to his big ranch.
		We sit up there on his back porch shooting down like 500 yards, 50 cals, you name it.
		I took the cast of Silicon Valley.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whoa.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Not once, but twice shooting in his ranch.
		I brought out a bunch of guns.
		And Judge and I were there.
		We were like, yeah, we're here to make you not be anti-gun.
		And within an hour of them shooting, they were all pro-gun and said, yeah, I should be able to have one of these.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Kamal and TJ are pro-guns.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		None of them were pro-gun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like Zach Woods.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		11, 12 people.
		The cast of Silicon Valley.
		One of the top shows on HBO.
		It was that easy.
		And we religiously.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Kobolowski.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He brings them here.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Takes them out shooting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Martin Starr.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yay, Martin Starr.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we just sit there and crack a beer after we're done and just had a satisfying conversion to people becoming armed.
		And they all go, I get it now.
		It's just weird until I shot and it was so easy and it was fun.
		And these women were shooting bullseyes and stuff at 200 yards and getting all excited and all.
		And they were lying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But they were shooting too.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we're sitting there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they drive the ladies' tea on golf.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they go, yeah, criminals are going to have them.
		Why shouldn't I have them?
		I can be trusted.
		I'm not bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like Kamal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Like these women.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're like, yeah.
		Wouldn't it be feminist for women to be armed?
		Because they say the feminists say women shouldn't have guns.
		Why?
		Women should be armed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a classic misunderstanding that Alex is having, and it's because he's unwilling to engage and listen.
		The reality is that the arguments that feminists have about self-defense classes and guns and stuff like that is, hey, let's focus on the real problem, which is men are assaulting us, as opposed to making the responsibility ours to fight them off or shoot them.
		So Alex is being like, feminists don't want you to be armed.
		The reality is that they would be fine with people being armed, but would rather focus on the issue that is at the core.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'd be fine with only women being armed.
		Sure.
		That would probably be a way better world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there is much lower incidence of violent crime amongst women.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's way less domestic abuse as well.
		Yeah.
		There are way fewer women who are convicted of domestic abuse and then go on to shoot eight or nine people in a public space.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now that we've out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Strangely enough, though, when it's the other direction, a lot of dudes convicted of domestic abuse or have those issues in the past almost all wind up going around and shooting all those people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not sure if that's true, but the ones who do go up, end up shooting people and committing mass violent crimes almost always have domestic abuse.
		Whether it's against a partner or a mother or a sibling or something like that, it's always fucking there.
		And I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		40% of men should be dead immediately.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now that we've outed ourselves as dumb live tard cucks, like Tobolowski.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Holy shit.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you believe that for a second?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That he took the cast of Silicon Valley out?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We know that Hank Hill is sort of based on him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So if Mike Judge would be taking him out, that does make sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I love first.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't believe any of this.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But be that as it may, I love the image of Zach Woods, Martin Starr, Kamale, TJ, all going out, and they go out to the fucking shooting range with Alex Jones, blow up some tannerite, hang out, and then they leave.
		And Mike Judge and Alex Jones sit around and have a beer and talk about how great it is to convert people to guns.
		Like that image in my head of the post-quatal beer that they're having.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what it is he's describing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is so amazing to me.
		Like that idea, because that's the world he lives in in his head.
		I'm going to guess.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to guess that it did happen.
		That Silicon Valley cast members, maybe not all of them, but some of them did go to Mike Judge's house and they did shoot with Alex.
		I'm going to guess that.
		And Alex is so incredibly passionately guns, guns, guns, and also clearly was drinking, as he's indicated, that they were probably like, oh, yeah, it is fun.
		Yeah, totally.
		I like it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That still doesn't sound like, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to guess it's a weird situation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Next time TJ's in town, let's ask him about this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's hit him up.
		You know what?
		If I had more time to research.
		I would have contacted them if I had more time to research, but I do not.
		But anyway, there was one other thought.
unidentified		I like Zach Woods a lot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We haven't even brought up Thomas Middleditch, and he's the main star in the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you doing, Dad?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		He fades into the background.
		When you have the star power of Zach Woods on stage and everyone else is secondary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is so good in the show, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Zach Woods so much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's terrible in the Martian.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he's playing one of the Russian rockets, and they didn't even allow him in the movie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He played the entire Pullet Bureau.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He could pull it off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's great.
		I think what we can really sum that up is Alex loves guns, pretends everyone else does too.
		Oh, no, this is the thought I had.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I had some friends in Missouri who were super into guns, and they took me to the gun range.
		And I get it.
		I totally, like, I'm not anti-shooting guns for leisure or sport or whatever.
		Like, I get it.
		It's fun.
		It is really fun in a safe environment, but it also, when it takes over your life and it becomes so important to you, I really question that.
		But like, just sitting there shooting a gun at a thing, like there's a stick.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Pretty great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Pretty great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've never, my, no, I've never done it.
		I can't hold a gun.
		It's bad.
		Court order.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that you are slightly closed-minded in that, but I don't think it's a problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because I'm a lib-tired cuck?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think it's a problem, but I think that there is, you can have some fun out there with a gun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I thought like you before I went out, so maybe I'm making Alex's argument for him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
unidentified		I watched your show?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		MythBusters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I watched MythBusters, and they talked about how fun it is to shoot guns all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, they totally got it.
		And I get it too.
		I'm sure if I went out, I would be like filled with all of my testosterone, you know, feeling like a god able to kill anything at any moment from a distance.
		I'm sure I would feel like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the experience I had.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure that I would feel like that.
		But yeah, no guns.
		No guns.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That wasn't the experience I had.
		It was more like it's an interesting machine to use.
		It's like, oh, wow, I can create change way down there from here.
unidentified		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's almost like, I mean, I kind of would get the same thrill out of a really good slingshot kind of.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think you would.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A really good slingshot doesn't have the recoil and the fire and the explosion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there's something, it's almost like a telekinesis.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I'm doing something and changing something down there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that was fascinating.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But, I mean, who cares?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I believe you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I went out like twice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I don't care.
		I don't disagree with you.
		I'm still going to go with no guns.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know why I'm doing such a fucking like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're trying to tell me about guns.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to do like a really rational version of like, hey, guns are fine, but calm down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I understand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because that is sincerely where I land on it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know what you are, Dan?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Reasonable?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're a fucking centrist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're a centrist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
unidentified		That's what you are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're a centrist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on, Dan.
		How about you drop some super predator language, huh?
		Now that you're a centrist, why don't you triangulate?
		How about you ride a wave of triangulation to defeat George H.W. Bush?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why is it not okay for me to be reasonably okay with guns, but I also think gun control should be a thing?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just fucking with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I understand that, but the parody that you're doing is a real person.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a thing that people do pull out in the same way that there's a lot of different, like the alt left is thrown around by idiots in the same way that centrist can be thrown around by idiots.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it's not an it, you, you do have a very reasonable position.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's defensible.
		And I get that.
		And I'm not going to try and take it away from you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And nor am I going to take your position away from you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think mine is a very reasonable one as well.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think probably the.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You should probably shoot a gun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I should probably shoot a gun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Glad we found common ground.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I didn't get addicted to guns.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We could find more common ground in this next clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I might as well face it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm addicted to guns.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's start over.
		So in this next clip, Alex Jones gets really offensive about a whole bunch of things.
		First of all, the schools, and then lesbians.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		See, they got our kids in the schools.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They got them there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're teaching them, your mommy and daddy aren't your boss.
		Here's how you perform fellas.
		It's all just infantile silliness, but that's just the cover of the non-threatening, oh, we're a culture of fun.
		Just join us.
		Just mesh with us.
		Just sink into the quicksand with us.
		Oh, goofy, goofy.
		So the men run around acting stupid, and then women are repulsed by them and then go off and find some butch woman to be with because they can't find a man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't make sense.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Butch woman will have a short haircut and have the duck's ass hairstyle and wear the blue jeans and roll up her arms and get over here, cuts.
		Yeah, see these beautiful women over with a girl who looks like a guy.
		Get over here, baby.
		In a pool hall, women walk over and you know, buddy's girlfriend.
		How you doing, baby?
		Why are you with him, huh?
		Because the men aren't being men.
		Hey, listen, cutie, go get your own girl.
		How dare you?
		I'm a lesbian.
		I'm glad to talk to your girlfriend.
		I mean, it's all about muscling.
		It's all about your bullying, muscling.
		They teach us not to be men, and then there's all these faux men now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, I wish somebody taught you how not to be a man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You fucking pilot.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So they know what they're doing.
unidentified		You fucking garbage humanity.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But they could take people out there for two hours and have some safe, good fun.
		30-pound woman shooting a 50-caliber rifle.
		And when they shoot a big old quarter-pound charge of tannerite and a stump blows 100 feet in the air, we're shooting cinder blocks and they're exploding.
		The Viking barbaric energy rises.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, that's the bad thing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's good energy.
		It's high energy.
		It's strong.
		You're meant to be powerful.
		You're meant to build incredible machines.
		You're meant to take risks.
		You're meant to excel.
		You're meant to be strong.
		You're meant to be honorable.
		All right, I'm going to go to your phone calls.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is why you should treat women poorly.
		You're meant to be honorable.
		That's why you should fucking.
		I love his argument that chauvinism is good no matter who's doing it.
		Like, that's the issue there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Men aren't chauvinistic enough, so women have to take it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So now women are chauvinistic, and he's kind of got that jealousy in him of like, what are you doing?
		I get judged for being chauvinist, but lesbians don't.
		And you're like, well, that's because they don't fucking.
		You're an idiot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're an idiot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe sometimes women are just attracted to other women, and it has nothing to do with chauvinism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, but I'd like to clarify one thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That story that he tells about being in a pool hall and a lesbian hitting on his friend's girlfriend, he's told conservative estimate 25 times on the show that I've heard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but each time is a new piece of evidence.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly the same story.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All the same details.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		New evidence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That means that 25 women have hit on 25 of his friends' girlfriends in 25 different pool halls.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's entirely not possible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's why Buckley is a cuck.
		Cookly.
		How have we not gotten there?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Boy, it took us a long time.
		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, we can end the show now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to also clarify because a lot of people don't know what tannerite is.
		It is this explosive thing.
		You get a box of it and you put it down stream from you, as it were, at a shooting range, and you shoot the tannerite and it makes a big explosion.
		So it's just a way of, it's like a firework that you can shoot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Kind of.
		A lot of people are unaware of that.
		It might sound weird.
		I didn't know what it was until I looked it up, quite frankly, because Alex kept talking about it.
		But the other thing is he's talking about shooting these logs and they blow up and cinder blocks.
		And there's a little bit of a pause.
		And I want to remind everybody that on a show that we did a couple months back, he was talking about being out shooting with Mike Judge, hitting some tannerite with some cinder blocks, and a piece of the cinder block came back and hit him in the head.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is one of the things that we suspect may have caused some brain damage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's glorifying this, like being out there shooting and all that, not realizing on another show he's talked about, like, I got fucking hit in the head with a piece of a cinder block.
		Maybe it's not all good fun.
		So I'm doubling back on my position even that if you're not safe and not careful, even recreational shooting is not good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it happened at the same time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When he's drunk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's shooting with the cast of Silicon Valley.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So he's shooting with the cast of Silicon Valley, gets zonked in the head.
		All he remembers is that the cast of Silicon Valley loves guns now.
		But maybe he is just a man with a very serious concussion and is concocting up all of these bullshit lies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let me be clear.
		If I'm Zach Woods and I'm out there shooting with guns, shooting guns with Mike.
		I can tell who your favorite character is.
		I just love Zach Woods.
		He's great on Improv for Humans podcast.
		He's just brilliant.
		He's super funny.
		He's very, very funny.
		If I was out there shooting as a member of Silicon Valley and Alex Jones shoots some tannerite, gets hit in the head with a cinder block, all of a sudden I'm like, this is the best time ever.
		So maybe I would be turned around.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Recreational shooting could get Alex hit in the head with a brick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a simple cause and effect solution.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm going to go out there all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this next clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Alex, Alex, shoot that one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shoot that one.
unidentified		Shoot that one right there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, don't shoot any of the other ones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Shoot that one right there.
		Walk a little closer.
		Yeah.
		We've had a lot of fun with some clips so far, but this next clip is where shit gets a little bit serious on October 12th.
		This next clip involves Sheriff David Clark.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why do we have such shitty sheriffs?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because there's this whole sheriff movement.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I started reading about the fucking constitutional sheriff, which is just die.
		Just fucking die.
		All of you need to just die now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it turns out that, I mean...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go to the gun range with Alex and have a piece of cinder block go right through your brain.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because I fucking hate all of you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, that might be what's happened in the past.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why we're in the state we're in.
unidentified		That's possible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex keeps shooting with sheriffs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		By the way, it's going to be my show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, damn it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You got there faster.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was actually going to put it on the food network, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We haven't really talked about it, but Joe Arpaio can go fuck himself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I hope he dies.
		I hope he dies immediately.
		I don't care how he dies.
		I don't give a fuck.
		I hope he dies now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump can fuck himself for pardoning.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I hope he dies too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a couple of really interesting things.
		There is a 1915 Supreme Court decision about pardons that may come into play that's actually kind of interesting.
		I'm not entirely sure.
		I read the Supreme Court decision.
		It's a guy who was a journalist, and he was trying to be compelled to give up his sources that he had.
		And he got pardoned by the president in an attempt for them to be like, you are not going to be charged.
		You can give up your sources.
		And he refused the pardon and ended up going to jail.
		And so the precedent that was set was that you can refuse a pardon.
		And by agreeing to a pardon, you have admitted guilt.
		So there is a piece of it, and this is sort of disputed law even to this day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But there is a sense and there is 1915 Supreme Court decisions don't sound I very, very rarely do I look back at any Supreme Court decision from that era, which is pre nine judges.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very rarely do you go back and look at those and go, oh, they got it right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there are precedents that are set still.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there is an argument that can be made that by Joe Arpaio accepting the pardon, because it is a choice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can reject or accept a pardon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm guessing he's going to accept it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he did already.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		By accepting it, he admits his guilt in the matter at hand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So he should be able to be sued in civil courts, lose all of his money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's hopefully his arms and legs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's passed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he should be just fucking torso tortured until he dies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's unclear whether or not that will hold up or if that's the route things are going to go, but man, do I hope so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, people need to go back and listen to our episode about the Dennis Montgomery investigation because I really think that there's more going on in terms of the Alex Jones, Joe Arpaio, Donald Trump nexus that people are not paying attention to.
		And I think Dennis Montgomery plays into this.
		Along with the birth certificate shit, the birther stuff, the fact that Dennis Montgomery is so entwined in Donald Trump's belief that Obama was spying on him.
		It doesn't, it's not a small thing.
		And people should really go back and analyze some of that stuff.
		Also, we did that episode like, what, five months ago?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We were way on top of this Joe Arpaio stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Suck it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Still hope he dies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everyone else is died.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I wish he had died five months ago.
		Everyone else is.
		I wish he had died 50 years ago.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
		Everyone else is fucking piling on and getting a thousand retweets for their Joe Arpaio take.
		And we did a fucking in-depth investigation five months ago and maybe got six retweets.
unidentified		So the world is flawed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's our main issue with Joe Arpaio right now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're not getting enough takes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll let myself, I'll let my ego take a backseat.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's just deal with him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, I fucking, I can't, I can't.
		I saw that.
		There's so many.
		Like, it's really not high on the list of all the worst things that are happening right now.
		Like, Joe Arpaio, Arpaio getting charged.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a transgender ban.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A what?
		80-year-old man getting pardoned doesn't mean that much in the grand scheme of things.
		You know, it really doesn't.
		But that's just one of those demoralizing fucking things where it's like, nothing matters.
		These guys run everything.
		And so they can just act with impunity.
		And what can you or I do?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It sends a profoundly bad message.
		Yeah.
		Because I think the worst part about it, I mean, the worst part about it is everything.
		But the part that is really, really depressing is that Trump phrases it and frames it as he got a witch hunt against him for doing his job.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which means that the implication is all of the atrocities he committed was, that was his job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was his job.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And every sheriff who isn't doing that isn't doing their job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His job was to, you know, bust up places and arrest every Latino person in it.
		You know, just do sweeps and shit.
		Like the stories that are coming out even recently, like people who have been like, oh, shit, he got pardoned?
		Let me tell you what happened with me.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just horrifying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's a murderer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so fuck Joe Arpaio, fuck Donald Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck Sheriff Clark.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fuck Mike Zulo.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fuck Donald Armstrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are we going to do an Arya Stark list here?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it, if I was a faceless man, the shit that would go down.
		Dangerous.
		I'm not going to say, I'm not going to confirm nor deny whether or not I am a faceless man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've never seen you as someone else, but why would I know?
		Exactly.
		So this clip has David Clark in it.
		And it's about how Barack Obama.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You have heard me refer to myself as no one, though, many a time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So many times.
		I have to cut it out of the podcast all the time.
		That's why editing takes me so long.
		A co-host is no one.
		Stop it.
		This is about how Obama went to Oregon after that shooting that happened like a week or so back in the timeline now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like a president.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like a good fucking president.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		David Clark has some thoughts about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And when we get back on the other side, I'll explain why these thoughts are deeply troubling.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what helpless jackasses that have inherited this incredible republic.
		The greatest men the world ever seen.
		All the foreign historians marveled at America.
		And now these people have taken over the house.
		This is what collectivism has created.
		Giant piles of stupid jellyfish.
		Let's go to the clip.
unidentified		Man, you know, he never misses an opportunity to politicize something.
		Anytime there's a tragedy that happens in the United States, the first thing he does is goes into his political bag of tricks to see what he can accomplish on his agenda.
		And then I think that that's sad that he exploits these people.
		And they saw right through it.
		That's why I said I'm glad they did it.
		You know, there's a certain amount of respect for the president of the United States.
		But when he takes advantage and uses them to achieve a political agenda, I'm glad to see that they slap back.
		This is a do as I say, not as I do, president.
		And he speaks as he's surrounded by this protective bubble, which he should have with the Armed Secret Service.
		If he wants to disarm people, he should start with his security staff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're a fucking idiot.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		And let's get that meme out there, folks.
		In fact, let's repost Drudge's clip.
		The article about Drudge says, you know, Obama, drop your guns.
		I want to repost that article, the same article, and I want it just to go viral.
		Did you hear me last Tuesday?
		And Wednesday, I said, this is going to go viral.
		And everybody picked it up.
		A lot of them gave Drudge the credit.
		Drudge is a communicator, folks.
		We have to get aggressive.
		We have to counter them.
		Update.
		Matt Drudge challenges Obama.
		Give up your guns.
		Disarm Obama.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here's why that clip is particularly troubling.
		You have Sheriff Clark on television making the same point that Alex Jones and Matt Drudge made on an episode like a week back or so.
		Now, here is the part that's even more troubling because that would be fucked up on its own.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That you have this sheriff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know why he's being in national television, but still telling that the president should have his security removed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because we're dumb and America deserves everything that it's getting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would be crazy in and of itself.
		But about a month or two, I think two months after this, Sheriff Clark was in Russia.
		Sheriff Clark.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why is Sheriff Clark in Russia?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He went along.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because we talked about that before.
		That can't be an okay thing, right?
		Unless he's on a nice vacation.
		But then he winds up in the most Russian administration that America's ever had.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, thankfully, he didn't end up in the administration.
		He's right.
		He was in Russia at the same time that Michael Flynn was in Russia.
		And the reason he was there was because he was part of an NRA delegation that went over there.
		And they met with this gentleman named Rogozin.
		I mean, that's not his first name.
		Dmitry Rogozin.
		He's a hardline deputy to Vladimir Putin, the head of Russia's defense industry and longtime opponent of American power.
		He's been sanctioned because of his role in the invasion of Crimea and eastern Ukraine.
		And so Sheriff Clark, along with some other folks who are super gun-positive folk, went over and met with him, which they claim was just because he's into guns.
		I'm like, I don't know.
		I don't think that makes sense.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We just went over to meet with one of the most high-powered men in Russia because he loves guns.
		We love guns.
		He loves guns.
		There's definitely nothing to look into now.
		Everybody look away.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No big deal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here's Alexander Dugan to tell us why this isn't a big deal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		Here's something that I want to impress upon everybody.
		Let me just read from this article in Daily Beast.
		Rogozin was the leader of the ultra-right party called Rodina or Motherland, and famously believes in the restoration of the Russian Empire, including what he calls Russian America, which is to say Alaska.
		To wrestle control of the party, he turned its course from a party that was occasionally in opposition to Putin to a strictly pro-Putin party.
		In 2005, Rogozin and his party miscalculated Putin's anti-immigrant mood and got kicked out of the parliament for a chauvinistic promotion video that said, Let's clean the garbage, featuring Central Asian workers eating a watermelon and spitting on the ground.
		So he is a bigot.
		Wow.
		He's even more racially angry and against immigrants than Putin.
		This is the guy who David Clark went over and met with in Russia two months after he's telling Obama to give up his guns, and Alex is saying, Yeah, all right.
		Wow.
		So you have a triangulation, at least in terms of the people who are making the exact same point and saying it the exact same way in Matt Drudge, Alex Jones, and David Clark.
		And that is an incredible problem for all of them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For all of them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For all of us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Apparently, they have no problems.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Apparently, they are fucking.
		Look.
		If you can pardon Arpaio, who is really under any kind of threat now?
		If you're an ally of Trump, the point that he just made was: I can do whatever the fuck I want, and laws don't mean anything as long as you're my friend, which is the entire problem with a monarchy, which apparently is what we are just dealing with now.
		Like, that's just what's going on.
		Like, why did we elect people who hate America so much?
		It's amazing to me how much they despise America, how much they hate the Constitution.
		They hate people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But they love the Constitution.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They don't even know what the Constitution fucking says.
		The people who scream First Amendment or Second Amendment rights don't have any fucking clue what the words are.
		And even if they did read it, they couldn't comprehend what it fucking says.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's some great old videos of Sam Seder going out to libertarian marches and asking people about the Constitution.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there's some fucking amazing, like, well, I haven't read it, but I'm planning on it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the whole man.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Jesus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm planning on it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're at a Constitution march.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I hate these people so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I wanted to just read this quote, too, because I think this is important.
		This is from that same article.
		It's disconcerting that they would be meeting with a Russian official about anything, given their vocal support of the president.
		They're talking about Donald Trump.
		Said Representative Mike Quigley, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, which is investigating Russia's attempts to influence the 2016 presidential elections.
		Due to the NRA's opposition to sanctions, it defies credulity that they wouldn't have discussed sanctions and their extraordinary support of Donald Trump's campaign.
		So you kind of get the sense that they were over there in some sort of wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You scratch my back, Putin owns you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or you have already scratched our back.
		Yeah.
		And the idea that this sheriff who is a monster and is responsible for a lot of deaths.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also a murderer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The fun thing about the constitutional sheriff movement is apparently, let's murder people is part of it.
		Yeah, it seems like a tenant.
		It's like Duterte in fucking the Philippines, where it's like, hey, just go murder people who do drugs.
		We're going to deputize everybody.
		If you kill somebody who does or sells drugs, you're fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Constitutional sheriffs strike me sort of as like mid-range generals in a junta.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just like they think that they're military.
		They think that they know what everyone wants, and it is not.
		And it's mostly sociopaths.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's entirely socially.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		David Clark and Joe Arpaio are two of the most awful people imaginable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they're remorseless.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So I just don't care.
		I think that an image and a picture is starting to become clear that there are a lot of people that are either actively working with Russia, David Clark, and people who are being duped by Russian influence and propaganda, Matt Drudge, Alex Jones.
		Matt Drudge's influence, like whether he's actually, like, he knows what he's doing, I can't tell.
		I have no idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's an influencer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I think that Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a fucking moron.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that David Clark certainly knows what he's doing.
		Alex Jones is being fooled.
		And then Matt Drudge, I have no idea.
		But they're all saying the same thing.
		And that's a fucking problem because it is a talking point and a narrative that is clearly coming out of Russia.
		So.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, guys.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's hope that our vaunted House intelligence and Senate intelligence committees are going to figure this thing out and we're just going to wash it away.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This investigation is so fucking weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be solved.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't expect any of this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I think it's.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so fucked up where we're at.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's weird to go through all of this because I am such a skeptic on like, oh, Russia did it.
		And none of the, like, you know, and that's a lot of one of the ways that people are saying that we're deflecting from the fact that Hillary didn't go to Wisconsin or whatever.
		She should have all of those.
		She absolutely should have.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm not deflecting anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Agreed.
		No, I agree with you.
		But the more you unpack this shit, the more it's like, God damn it, Donald Trump is on tape peeing on a lady.
		Like, there's not much else to say at this point other than that Russia did it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there is, like, I genuinely believe that one of the ways that you can really exploit media and trick people is following along with the idea that people can't keep two thoughts in their head at the same time.
		Yeah.
		And, you know, one of the games that propagandists play is tricking you into thinking that two things can't be true.
		And in this case, Hillary should have gone to Wisconsin.
unidentified		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is true.
		And Russia clearly did some fucked up stuff.
		Right.
		That is also true.
		Those both can be true.
		Right.
		They aren't mutually exclusive at all.
		But the way that everything is presented tricks you into thinking, oh, if you believe that Russia fucked up, then you're excusing Hillary.
		Or if you're like, no, Hillary didn't need to go.
		Who cares?
		You know what I'm saying?
		It's just nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's so much Twitter takes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's so hard to take culture.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what, fucking...
		We're recording this over the weekend, and last night I was monitoring Hurricane Harvey hitting.
		Uh-huh.
		And that hot take culture, I'm fucking done with it.
		Just watching it happen in real time with an actual natural disaster happening was just so fucking distasteful.
		Just people making jokes and stuff.
		Like, hey, there's a building that just collapsed and people are stuck inside and might not be able to get out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is super weird to watch that.
		Because, and it's super weird all across the board because a lot of the stuff that we are vehemently that we're just like, like, I'm screaming about Arpaio's fucking pardon.
		It isn't actually affecting me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, from where we're at.
		I mean, but not yet.
		I don't feel like the personal effect of it.
		Like, I go home and it's not like anything that I've done has been changed by our pio being pardoned.
		In the same way that it is so unimaginable to think of all the damage that is being done while we are talking.
		And I just, you know, you just feel like a certain amount of disconnect from it if you're watching it through your phone.
		And so that's, that to me is why it makes sense that the Twitter sphere can just do all of this bullshit because it doesn't even look real.
		It looks like you're watching it on TV.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're watching a disaster movie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's a real disaster movie.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It looks a lot like it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we're going to get back into more heavy geopolitical issues, but in this next clip, Alex Jones goes to the phones and he gets just a dumb, dumb fucking caller.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go to Brad in Louisiana.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding her on the air, Brad.
unidentified		Hey, cowboy.
		I just wanted to let you know that you're going to be the first to know that I'm no longer racist, and I can prove a high-level.
		I'm going to expect a source confirmed the fact that though I'm Caucasian, I do have a color.
		And we found out what color it is.
		And it happens to be eggshell beige.
		So I kept a copy of the swatch of paint from the home improvement paint manager in my wallet right behind my right behind my driver's license.
		And so I'm a person of color now.
		Secondly, I'd like to.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I myself am kind of like a pink, like piggy pink.
unidentified		I've seen you into the rosy kind of hues there a couple of times.
		But yes, I'm official.
		So do I see anybody can say anything about that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah.
		Great.
		He goes on to talk about Social Security.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just wish we didn't have to live in the same country as these people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty wild.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can't we put them somewhere else?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They should secede.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We should, yeah.
		How about this?
		If you're a MAGA, we put you in a camp.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What about the pro wrestling?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We put you in a tent camp in Arizona.
		You all have to live there.
		And we're just going to make sure that the temperature is always 150 degrees.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to respond to this just because I know you're joking, but I don't want to play this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, am I joking?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know anymore.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know anymore.
		Me neither.
		No one is joking.
unidentified		Me neither.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fake laugh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fake laugh followed by real laugh?
		That's a weird twist.
		Speaking of weird twists, in a twist that is not weird at all, this next clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, no, You can't do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a cheap, that's a, you ruined your own transition there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did I, or did I zigzag?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of the two.
		I'm going to zog.
		So speaking of Zogs, this next clip.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At a certain point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We found the transition right there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At a certain point, this just becomes a verbal tick.
		That's all it is.
		So this next clip, Alex Jones talks about someone that he really admires.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then our government's trying to act like they're actually fighting ISIS, but Putin's gone in.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I tell you, I don't romanticize Putin, but he is really putting a major crimp in the New World Order.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's talking about how our government funds ISIS and Russia are the only ones who are really taking care of business.
		And he tries to put on this pained expression of like, I don't want to romanticize this.
		I'm not, look, it pains me to say that Putin is better than us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying he's a beautiful looking man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And whatever kind of caveats he wants to make to it, it's clear he has a profoundly pro-Russia, pro-Putin perspective.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
unidentified		You know what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have like, okay.
		So they all hate the world government, yada, yada, yada.
		Hate the UN, blah, globalists, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So if we do switch to Alex and fuck it, why not Putin?
		Let's just throw that in there.
		Sure.
		He just hates the real globalists, I guess.
		The UN or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He hates those who would stop his expansion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He wants the old Soviet Union back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And apparently, Alaska.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, take it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, we got a lot of oil in there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We got to make sure that we have all of that oil because, you know, Mad Max is coming around the corner.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If this kind of rampant nationalism does take hold, and there is no, you know, negotiating bodies between these countries, there is no United Nations or anything like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		What, like, do we still trade?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do we get news from these other places?
		Or is it like just wall everything off and shut it down?
		Like, it's because of the EU.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's because of the U.S. can't be wall everything and shut it down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It will be strong countries exploiting poor countries to a greater extent than we even do now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would be bedlam for most countries that don't have something to offer.
		Yeah.
		That's the thing that they don't really ever discuss in terms of like, hey, you know, we all got to live on this world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not like I know that borders mean something in terms of like, here's America, here's Canada, what have you.
		But at the end of the day, they are illusions.
		Yeah.
		It's not really real.
		We all are on this orb that we're living on.
		And you can't, like, we can't all survive unless we work together.
		And that recognition is why there are those bodies.
		And they, this is the fucking thing that drives me crazy.
		It's the same thing with the central bank and the Federal Reserve.
		If you really look at the history of our economy, everything has been much better since the Federal Reserve.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maritime law, Dan!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That will come back up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think not this episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, you're yeah.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So everyone is super mad at the Federal Reserve, and they're not great.
		They have done a lot of really shady things, and it is still a profit business that they're in.
		And they should be regulated far more closely than they are, and we should expect more out of it.
		But if you look back, we were way worse without them.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the UN is not perfect.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We can go back with countless examples of atrocities that have gone on on their watch.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like Agenda 21.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would have gone with Rwanda.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would have gone with any number of times that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Tomato, tomato.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Any number of times that the international community had a responsibility to stop something from happening and failed for whatever reason.
		That said, there are a number that would have happened that didn't happen because those bodies existed.
		And I just don't understand.
		I understand paranoia.
		I understand fear.
		I do get those things.
		But I don't understand complete denial of the positives.
		That part really does not make sense to me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's, but they don't want any interest in that second part, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The positives?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So they want genocides happening on localized levels and they want you to be able to print your own currency.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They want completely fluctuating stock markets to the point where everything is fucked all the time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, no, they don't want that.
		But it's the entirety of the GOP.
		It's the way that their brains work is let's tear all of this stuff down because it's not working the way we want it to.
		And then they don't do that thing of like, okay, well, then what do we build after that?
		They have no idea.
		Like, it's always like, hey, we need to cut taxes as much as we can.
		And then they never say, okay, well, since we don't have any money for the federal government, what is it that we keep and what is it that we get rid of?
		And they're like, no, no, no, if you cut taxes, the government has more money.
		And you're like, well, we've proved that's not true because of Reagan.
		Well, no, no, no, no.
		We will do it right this time.
		And there's never any sense of what are we building that is going to be better.
		They have no interest in that because the people who are always, always behind all of this shit are the ones who are going to profit the most if you tear down these protections.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And privatize everything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's fucking billionaires.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They've hoodwinked the dumbest, weakest, most idiotic members of our population by telling them that look at all of these things that aren't helping you as much as you want them to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or convincing you that they're not helping you at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they've convinced Alex Jones that there are shadowy globalists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That he has convinced millions of people to fight against as opposed to the real problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is that's a fascinating thing that maybe we should explore another time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a brilliant, it's a brilliant psychological twist.
		Like, they have pulled off a war against the poor by making the poor think that they're on the right side.
		Like, it's amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I hate to keep bringing up Sam Cedar, but he had a really good point about Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He can go fuck himself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that too.
unidentified		What does he think about John Rappaport?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Guys, thank you for listening.
		You can check us out at Malta.
		If you do that bit, we have to end the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not a hard rule.
unidentified		That's not a hard rule.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're back on part two.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Besides, I was putting the words into Sam Cedar's mouth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He does that bit, we end the show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's for sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Michael Brooks does it, we keep going.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We keep going forever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But David Brooks does it, we get to kick him in the shins.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		David Knight does it?
		We fall asleep.
		So Sam had a good point about Alex Jones that is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Knight Rider does it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, anyways.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		John Cena might become Knight Rider in the movies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's in the gossip rag.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anyways, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What his point was that if you were like some of these super rich people who have vested interests in keeping people poor and privatizing things and all that, what you would want is to create someone like Alex Jones to distract everybody.
		Control doesn't exist, the best thing possible would be to create an Alex Jones.
		And I don't actually think that that's the case, that someone created him as controlled opposition or anything like that.
		But it is interesting to think that accidentally he is serving the greatest purpose towards us not progressing.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's fascinating.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is doing everything possible to make sure that all the stuff he says he wants never comes about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And everything he's afraid of happens.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		Yeah, racism.
		It's one of those things where it's a self-fulfilling prophecy in this regard, especially.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Except he's the one.
		Yeah, except he's the one who's making sure that all this stuff doesn't happen.
		But it's because the billionaires can pay so many people to do this shit.
		Like, they don't even need.
		They have the Heritage Foundation.
		They have all these think tanks.
		They have billionaires in all the different countries who.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what might work for us?
		If we stop calling them billionaires and start calling them oligarchs.
		Yeah, that's probably.
		Maybe we start putting a different label on it and we start to be like, ooh, I don't like that word.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, it doesn't really help all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't really help Russia right now, does it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but it did for a little.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it didn't really.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it didn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the idea of billionaire is aspirational.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oligarch is kind of like a gross term.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		I think we should call them what they are: carpetbaggers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Globalists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody likes a globalist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've got to stop going off on so many tangents and get through this because we've got a lot of meat.
		Okay, all right.
		Next day is October 14th.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Tito's got good to me.
unidentified		That's all.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, now you wish you brought more.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm still hungover.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can't work through it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You want a beer?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, please.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're going to work through this thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You got to drink your way to the other side.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On September.
		On October 13th, Paul Joseph Watson hosts the show, so I didn't watch it.
		Don't care.
		Can't stand him.
		We move on to October 14th.
		And clearly, Paul Joseph Watson has gone back to London because Alex Jones starts the show by lying about him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If Paul Watson wants to go out and demonstrate against radical Islam, Islam?
		He will be arrested at the train station when he gets off.
		Every day in the news, they arrest writers and journalists and anyone who criticizes radical Islam.
		If you crit, remember five years ago they banned Michael Savage going to England because you'd criticize radical Islam?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Stop saying that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's like, well, that's just Michael Savage.
		No, it's not just Michael Savage.
		He's going to end up being everybody.
		This is totalitarianism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Michael Savage was banned from entering the United Kingdom because they believed that his speech was hate speech, and it is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is.
		Because it's not criticizing radical Islam.
		He talked, like, legitimately, I have watched a bunch of Dr. Savage, and so much of the stuff he says is so aggressively awful.
		It is conflating Islam with terrorism to an nth degree.
		Of course.
		I've brought this up on the show, but it's the worst example of him I've ever seen in my life.
		Was when he was on, when he had a television show, he had a gay activist on the show, and he told him, I hope you get AIDS and die.
		Like, legitimately, he is that kind of an awful person.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the idea, and he does incite people a bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so the idea that the UK would be like, you can't, we're not letting you in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, the idea that you can't criticize Islam without being arrested, Alex, you're living proof that that's not true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You do it all the time, and you're fine.
		Paul Joseph Watson does it all the time.
		He's in London.
		He's fine.
		So your whole, like, either in America or in England.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's totalitarianism.
unidentified		It's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You guys are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's selective totalitarianism.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's very specific totalitarianism.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then his argument that, like, if he went out and protested it, he'd get arrested.
		What are you talking about?
		What does that mean?
		Like, I don't think that's true, but I also don't trust Paul Joseph Watson to have a reasonable protest against Islam.
		No.
		I imagine it would turn into a bigot fest.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who would have guessed?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whether he wanted it to or not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I don't think that he or the fan base that they have has the restraint to not turn it into a, let's burn down that mosque kind of thing.
		And so, I mean, it's stupid.
		Like, when you and your existence is proof that your argument is wrong, what do you do?
		What do you do?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Make the argument anyways, Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Clearly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And yell a bunch.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what are you talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess you create that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		These people don't fucking care about hypocrisy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You create a fake enemy, the globalists, who are constantly about to take you down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what you do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think we just cracked the nut.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, that's been Knowledge Fight, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, we got 20 more clips.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Holy shit.
		All right.
		I'm going to be real quiet for the next 45 minutes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, you won't.
		20 is a little high.
		But we do have a lot of clips because I teased earlier in this episode that we may or may not make progress.
		And we're about to get to the point where we're going to be able to do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which would suggest that we would make progress because whenever we weren't making progress, you didn't tease anything at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Smart.
		So we're about to get to the point.
		We're about to get to something that is, I think, transformative and might be a very major piece of Alex Jones transforming into a Trump propagandist and, by the by, losing his mind.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He got hit by a larger piece of concrete.
unidentified		Because Middle did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was trying to think of another person who's on Silicon Valley, and I'm ashamed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I shouldn't have thrown out Tobolowski so early.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You shouldn't have kept that one in your back pocket.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would have been a great callback.
		In this next clip, Alex Jones is going to get into a narrative that I sincerely think is a push narrative.
		Like, this is a big one for him.
		And he's lying about everything.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me get to the story that was so incredible yesterday that I spent well over an hour researching and I couldn't believe it when I saw the Fox News headline.
		Buckley texted it to me.
		Confederate flag supporters indicted under Georgia terrorism law.
		Now, if you've grown up anywhere in the South or in East Texas on different Confederate holidays, people get in their big four-wheel drive trucks.
		They drive around with rebel flags and American flags.
		They do it at the beach.
		If you're in Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, I mean, this is just what you grow up around.
		I have a complex historical view of it.
		It's very, very sad when I see it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, you're not.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because I really know what it represents.
		It represents the South being completely shut up and being fools.
		And I'm going to get to that here in just a minute.
		But separate from that, it is their free speech.
		And the Confederate battle flag represents slavery, other than the fact that some bad people have expropriated it.
		If you're able to ban the Confederate flag, you're able to ban everything.
		And we'll be right where Germany is, where they take your children if you criticize the government.
		Socialism, global warming, that's in the news today.
		They now arrest you in Germany for it.
		They're trying to make it EU-wide.
		The UN wants it worldwide.
		That's mainstream news today.
		Illegal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to pause that for a second because there's another narrative that Alex has been spinning for like the last week and a half on the show or so, and I've just sort of tossed it by the wayside.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He thinks that Germany has reactivated the Stasi in order to get you to never talk bad about immigrants.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, Germany does have one of the strongest anti-hate speeches.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's one of the reasons why I neglected the narrative because there is truth to what he's saying, but not what he's saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, and they have used it against both both sides, so to speak.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure if on the show or just privately about how if you express Nazi ideology, you get arrested there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there is that sort of it doesn't jibe with our idea of free speech, but definitely makes sense based on the history of the country.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if you committed a genocide, maybe the national law of, hey, let's not do that anymore.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't associate with that fucking group.
		Yeah, exactly.
		That makes sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not terrible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But then it's also used, like, it is one of those things where in the same way that it can be used against people we don't like, it can be used against people we do like.
		Right.
		Like, there is.
		The First Amendment is super important.
		It's super important that the government can't make a law restricting your ability to say what you want to say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They can't shut down distasteful speech.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Now, I think they should have made it more specific.
		Like, you can say, like, here's a law that I would pitch.
		All right?
		Hear me out.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In Congress, you can absolutely express your right to say whatever it is that you need, and the law will not punish you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		However, it is also legal to punch a Nazi in the face however many times you want to.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, there we go.
		That's a good law.
		Skirts around free speech.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't disagree with that.
		But the point is, there are these elements of German society that are outside of our idea of free speech.
		Yeah.
		But they're not reactivating the Stasi.
		That's absurd.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You usually get fined.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Alex is going on a bunch of tangents about how people are getting their kids taken away.
		If you look into it, it's like, well, there's other issues.
		That wasn't because they said immigrants are bad.
		It was because they were unfit parents.
		It's the same thing with that narrative he spun about how if your kid's playing basketball past five, the state takes them away.
		It's just nonsense.
		But anyway, the narrative that he kicked into about Confederate flag people being indicted is going to come back in a second.
		But before you do that, let's listen to the rest of this Civil War revisionism.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That the carbon tax and global warming and all this is a fraud.
		Of course, climate change is happening.
		It's always happened.
		This is the precipice we've reached.
		And in Georgia, they're in the whole Confederate flag fight where they put the guilt of 10 poor black people killed by a mentally ill white supremacist onto anyone that supported Southern heritage or anything else, or Robert E. Lee, who was an amazing individual, according to the Northern historians.
		Didn't own slaves.
		Ulysses S. Grant did, the Northern general.
		It's just all bull.
		Was the North wrong?
		From a Southern perspective, yes.
		But both sides were fools.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I'm going to break that down because people need to know the full story and not have identity politics of you're a Yankee or you're a Southerner.
		Need to understand the real paradigm and to understand that we can go back to slavery.
		President Andrew Jackson 30 years before the Civil War.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Slavery.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it almost happened before?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Was it about slavery?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And his protege, Sam Houston, who tried to stop the Civil War and was removed and was spit on and had things thrown at him in Texas because he said you're being set up by British intelligence.
		Of course he was right.
		But that's a separate history lesson.
		We come back.
		Imagine four or five trucks driving around with rebel flags on them.
		Black folks are all angry.
		The media has told them it's a symbol of killing black people.
		They throw some bottles.
		The police come.
		No one's arrested.
		And then the state indicts the people for the rebel flags, saying that it was an act of terror.
		That's saying free speech is an act of terror.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Didn't you just say that they threw some bottles?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he's saying the black people threw bottles.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So he's mad because that means the black people are being racist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they're committing the act of terrorism as opposed to these guys who are just waving the rebel flag, Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am sure that you have looked into this and you agree 100% with Alex Jones that is restricting free speech.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
		Hit me.
		I can't.
		He's right about everything.
		He's not.
		Because this narrative is going to be a little bit bigger.
		I just want to dispense with one thing.
		I did some research into Robert E. Lee, and he's a really complicated figure in history, but he absolutely did have slaves.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he was not a good dude.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of the things is he Was accused of having slaves, and he did.
		And his argument was that he had gotten these slaves when his dad died.
		And in the will, it said, free them five years after I die.
		And so that was his argument: I'm going to free them five years after my dad dies, as his will wished.
		Unfortunately, the Civil War broke out three years later.
		So who knows if he would have freed them?
		I don't know.
		If it were me, I'd have been like, dad's dead.
		I don't give a shit about his wishes.
		If I were actually against slavery, like, okay, guys, just don't tell my dad if you die.
		Like, just don't, don't tell.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You'll tell my dad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You'll be in a different place.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, my dad owns slaves.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're not going to be seeing them anywhere.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Guys, don't snitch, just on the off chance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't snitch.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the other thing is he seemed to, in a lot of letters, have a negative opinion of slavery, but did not advance that position publicly and didn't work against it at all, which, to mine eyes, means he wasn't really against it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But be that as it may.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, he fought for the South during a war about whether or not we should keep slavery.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So that kind of suggests that he was probably pro-slavery.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just want to give some validity to the argument that Robert E. Lee is more complicated a figure than the black and white version of awful and great.
		He's probably more in the middle towards awful, but not as bad.
		Who cares?
		Look, I'm not trying to be a centrist on this too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He wasn't Stonewall.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's put it that way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Yeah, yeah.
		So now, to the point about this people flying the rebel flag and getting terrorism charges.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, they should.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ah, boy, they did so much more.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who would have guessed?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They did so much worse shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex pretends that he did an hour of research, and that means that he knows everything I'm about to tell you and is pretending all that stuff didn't happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do I want to hear what you're about to say?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've actually talked about this in passing on a past episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because this incident happened on July 27th of 2015.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Party crashers waving Confederate flags disrupted a black child's birthday celebration.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, for fuck's sake!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep, in Georgia, shouting racial slurs and death threats, partygoers said.
		The intruders cruised through in pickup trucks, taunting their targets, cell phone videos showed.
		A second video captured the uninvited guests shouting the N-word from grassy fields during Saturday's confrontation.
		Quote, it's a child's birthday party, an angry witness called out to them.
		Partygoers claimed to heckler's brandished guns, tire irons, and knives as they threatened to, quote, kill all the ends.
		So that's a story from New York Daily News.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's just the rebel flag.
		That's what it is.
		The media is the one who's telling you that it's a symbol of racism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's from the New York Daily News.
		This is from the Washington Post on October 12th, 2015.
		At the time, partygoers said the caravan of trucks drove into the neighborhood, parked in an empty field near the home, and began making threats and yelling racial slurs.
		Quote, one had a gun saying he was going to kill the N's, party host Melissa Ashford told the Atlanta Journal Constitution, quote, then one of them said, give me the gun, I'll shoot them N's okay, so just as a, like, just as a barometer for how we're doing, I have moved my position on white genocide from a soft no to a maybe?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Meh, not a bad idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So that's from maybe not the best idea, but uh, it's in the running now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's from October 12th, which is right around the time, like a day or two before where we're at now.
		Now, if we flash forward to 2017, the case ended.
		In February of 2017, the case was finalized, and you'll be thrilled to know that the people who got charged cried in court and went to prison for years.
		They got hard charge for terrorism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because they acted as a street gang.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so here's from an article, again, in the New York Daily News from February 27th, 2017.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Again, white people in America are the single worst group of terrorists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Video footage from the party, little more than a month after Dylan Roof's Charleston church massacre, shows a parade of trucks roaring by with Confederate battle flags.
		One person is heard shouting the N-word, while witnesses said that another had a gun and said he was going to kill the N's.
		Prosecutors have said that the cases against Torres, Norton, and other defendants are not based on their right to fly the Confederate flag, but on threats against the victims.
		Quote, this is behavior that even supporters of the Confederate battle flag can agree is criminal and shouldn't be allowed.
		Douglas County District Attorney Brian Ford.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you expect decency out of people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You would.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's not what Alex's version of what's going on is not what's going on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Shocking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like the tweet that Obama sent out, the most liked tweet in the history of the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The one in which it's him with the picture, and he says hate is not something that you're born with.
		It's something you're taught.
		It is almost one of those things where it's like, maybe we should take your kids away.
		Maybe we should take them.
		And I don't mean that kind of a thing.
		Maybe it is a bigger issue that the family is what it is.
		Like, it might be a better idea if it was more community-driven and less, you know, you're raised by whatever random ass people you came out of.
		You know, like, it's not, it may not be a bad idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We talk about the idea of becoming a type one civilization, getting off-planet and stuff like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, that's the conception of what progress is in the grander scheme.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you look back in the history of humanoids, I guess, human-like beings, if you go back to Neanderthal times and even beyond that, just human civilizations, Homo sapiens sapiens, like you see different patterns of culture.
		You see matrilineal, matriarchal societies where everybody is much, much happier and everybody gets laid a lot more.
		Or you see a vuncular civilizations where the uncles raise children and it becomes a much more community intertwined thing where your children aren't your property.
		Everybody is sort of, they all have a vested interest in raising children together.
		And just because that is in the past doesn't mean necessarily that those ideas can't possibly be the future.
		Like as we drift towards massive shifts in how we live, like the idea of going off-planet is crazy.
		Like we would have to change everything to accommodate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The idea of staying on planet is crazy at this point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everything's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also the idea that society has to stay the way it is in terms of discrete family units and in terms of like, I mean, we've even, in the last 50 years, chipped away a little bit, I think, at the idea that man runs everything in household.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, there are changes that are happening, and it's entirely possible that we do end up getting to maybe not necessarily uncles, but an ovuncular type of pattern.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it really does make the most sense when you consider, yes, it is important to all of us how children are raised.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're seeing the results of, you know, what it's like whenever these horrible fucking bigots get raised by horrible fucking bigots who were raised by horrible fucking bigots who go on and on and on back to people who owned people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's super weird that strangers' children really do affect your life, but they fucking do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So anytime somebody says don't judge other people for how they raise their kids, no, fucking do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If somebody is raising their kids bad, yell at them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Please.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Agreed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But do it, I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do it in an avuncular way.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So these next two clips, I'm just going to play.
		They're Alex Jones saying really terrible things about this battle flag situation.
		Just put the mic down.
		Let's play these without commentary to get through them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it's just going to turn into screaming.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		South Padre, and there's all these cars and trucks traveling back and forth.
		And then every 10th car would have a Confederate flag.
		And, you know, they were a lot of times looking for trouble.
		I mean, you'd be at your bonfire or whatever, and they go, what do you, you know, bleepers do?
		And if you said, well, get out of that car, I'll stomp your head in the ground.
		And then they go, no, no, we got beer.
		Let's party.
		I mean, that's not what all these people are like.
		But the average southerner is not driving around doing that.
		So I've personally experienced stuff like this.
		But is it terrorism?
		Absolutely not.
		And I'm giving these black folks a benefit of the doubt.
		And saying maybe something happened to them.
		Fuck you!
		Because the media was invoking anybody that's got a Confederate flag wants to murder black people.
		Yes!
		And you got black folks climbing in backyards, front yards, pulling down flags.
		I mean, you got the illegal aliens pulling down American flags at post offices now.
		You got American flags banned all over the place in schools.
		Please!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there we go.
		We get back to that narrative, the Ninth Circuit Court narrative.
		So that's offensive, but this next one's probably worse.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And now, 160 years later.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		After the Civil War.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		155 years later, they will arrest you and charge you for terrorism if you fly the Confederate flag and people's feelings get hurt.
		So you can see where political correctness goes.
		They wind up all the so-called minorities to see racism and hate everywhere.
		When they get upset, you get arrested.
		And when that precedent is set, it's going to be everybody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in that clip, he's blaming the people who had racial slurs thrown at them when they were having a children's party, dudes with guns, pipes, and knives rolling through with standardly racist flags.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They were just upset.
		Shouldn't have been such a triggered.
		Shouldn't have been such a problem with safe spaces, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Stupid snowflakes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, you think about those birthday parties and you're like, bug, snowflakes.
unidentified		You know what the problem is?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what the problem with children's birthday parties is?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So afraid of truth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I go to children's parties all the time, right?
		And I go in there and no one wants to debate.
		Like, what's going on, you fucking cowards?
		Yeah, ridiculous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is an interesting thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's an interesting way for you to start this sentence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm just thinking, like, are we still at war with the Confederacy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think some of them think that.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Much like people who got stranded inland in Vietnam or Korea.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They thought the war was going on 30 years after.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the Japanese guy who thought the war was still happening until 1994 or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you hear stories like that every now and again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think some of those ding-dongs are in that same headspace and that same mentality.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, are we still at war with the Nazis?
		Like, there's a certain part of me that's like, it is.
		It is an issue.
		Anytime you fly the Confederate flag, it is a problem.
		Well, it is a symbol of owning people.
		That's what the Confederate flag is, full stop.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, I agree.
		But this comes down to what we were talking about earlier with the downsides of complete free speech.
		Yeah.
		Because in countries like Germany, where they can shut shit down real hard and make it like once the Civil War is over, we probably shouldn't have been as generous and be like, oh, yeah, keep on, you know, celebrate or whatever.
unidentified		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, there should have been a stamping out of like, no, you need to be punished for your sins.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And same with the Nazis.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, we accept free speech to such a degree that we're like, I mean, neo-Nazis have been around since World War II.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In some fashion or other.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe they weren't called neo-Nazis.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, the 80s were rough with neo-Nazis.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There were a lot of them around.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and we just like, well, hate what he says.
		I'll defend to the death.
		His right to say it.
		We go Voltaire on their ass.
		And at the end of the day, that leads to them building up.
		And then you think there's a good answer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You think if you go the other way, though, you get, you know, World War I and the Treaty of Versailles, and you just destroy a people until they want to start another fucking war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is entirely possible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a different thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It has to be defeated with some sort of positive thing.
		And I just can't see any positive thing whenever you're talking about people who want you dead.
		Like when you're talking to Alex Jones, he is describing leftists as people who are pedophiles, who hate you, who want to kill your kids.
		Like, how do you combat that with positivity?
		Like, that's it's it's an insane idea that we're well, I mean, we're making laughs out of it.
unidentified		Well, yeah, but that's positive and explaining truth.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I love to take every opportunity to say that we're doing great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		You just held up your Fitbit, too.
		So there we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've already got my steps for the day.
		I'm doing great.
		So this next clip, Alex Jones talks about how Obama is mentally ill, but he also says something that I think is really, really huge to our investigation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is exactly like there's a Trump tweet for every occasion.
		Like every time we go back to 2015 and he describes Obama, all the stuff that he hates about Obama, it's like, no, you're just describing Trump.
		Obama was none of that shit.
		The guy that you are talking about is the president now, and you fucking love him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because he's not black.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he's not black.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But more important, the part about Obama being mentally ill is just like, I mean, that's window dressing.
		Yeah.
		Something else that comes up in this clip I think is profoundly important.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is a big deal.
		And Obama is mentally ill.
		Sure.
		Dr. Pachenek is a Harvard psychiatrist, MIT scientist, one of the fathers of modern psych warfare at the Pentagon.
		He's the one to come over and get him on, but he says Obama's mentally ill.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Dr. Pachenek is about to show up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is this our first?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he's been on the show years in the past, but he has not been on in this entire run that we've been doing.
		And I checked 2014.
		I didn't see appearances from him.
		But I think he had been on before.
		I don't think it's like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not the first time they've ever spoken.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not hearing Pachenek.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he has not been around, and the counter-coup narrative has not come up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Steve Pieczenik is about to show up on the Alex Jones show.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because whenever Alex says, I'm going to get them on, generally they show up within a few days.
		So we can expect that.
		The bigger piece I want to take away from this is that if you're dumb, like Alex Jones.
unidentified		Or me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, you're a little smarter than Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But even still, you and I, I'd lump us in with this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If there is someone who is an expert in psych warfare, don't make them a regular guest on your show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because you are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's such a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're not smart enough to know if they're committing psych warfare.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, who's doing it to who?
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I didn't consider that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This guy who's a part of psychological warfare could be using you for his gain.
unidentified		Nah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He could be using you to further his agenda.
		And like I've said many times, my theory is that everyone is lying to Alex, whether it be Russian media, Roger Stone, Steve Pieczenik, all of his guests and influences are basically tricking him into this box that he's put himself in that ended up being a very large part of why we have Trump as a president.
		So I see that and like his recognition and admission.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's such a hilarious thought.
		Oh, I've got a great get.
		The guy who invented Psych Warfare is going to tell us about Psych Warfare.
		And he's like, wait, why would he do that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's the guy who invented Psych Warfare.
		Wouldn't he always be doing Psych Warfare?
		Like, is this dude ever not warfaring psychically?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Our next guest is a known con artist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's going to tell us all about, yeah, just going to be straight up with us.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Our next guest is a malevolent wizard.
joe biggs ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't have that person on the show.
		It drives me crazy.
		And the fact that he recognizes and gives him that as part of his credits means that he knows he's not guarding himself nearly well enough.
		Like, you know how we've talked about this months and months back.
		A lot of the time, Steve Pieczenik does seem very rational to me in the sense that whenever he's talking about Trump cannot allow Gorsuch to be on the Supreme Court, he's a neocon, all this other, like, the guy's making a decent point.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But then you have to remember that he also doesn't believe that Sandy Hook was real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has a hundred other really terrible things in his resume.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But what does he believe?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Believe in psych warfare.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And believes, on our last episode, he believes that Alex Jones is great at riffing, which is that he's a liar.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Evidence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's definitely true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's psych warfare.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Alex riffing is psych warfare.
		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Different sides of the same coin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that is a great question or a great point that you made is that once you have that as his credit, anything that he says in public, you cannot believe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you have to at least really fucking examine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the idea that Alex trusts him implicitly to the point where things that he says that have no evidence behind them are just taken as gospel, that's real dangerous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a real fucked up headspace to be it's dangerous to give anybody that kind of trust.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, especially when a psych warfare person is coming on your show and giving you stuff that feeds into your confirmation bias.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You really should analyze it.
		And Alex never does.
		He just is like, Steve, you're great.
		You think I'm funny?
		I've always wanted people to think I'm funny.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I don't know why they never do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I'm not.
		That's self-reflective, Alex Jones.
		That character does not exist.
		So in this next clip, Alex Jones says, I mean, this could have been an out-of-context drop.
		I just think it's offensive.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Women will likely have to register for the draft.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Army Secretary says, hey, you like those new rights you got to be a slave?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yikes.
		So, yeah.
		I just don't like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You like those new rights you got to be a slave?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he's talking about women's lib.
		I think that's what he's saying.
		Oh, you like being treated like an adult?
		Now you've got to take the draft.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of women in the service.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, yeah.
		Yeah, Alex.
		That's kind of how it works.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, that's always.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that women would be offended by it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's always how I love that because that invalidates that argument that chauvinists and assholes always make.
		It's like, oh, feminism, you don't want all the same rights because then you'd have to do all of the same shit, and there's a lot of shit you don't want to do.
		You know, that kind of thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't invalidate it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It shows that Alex thinks that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But the point being, if it does happen, though, all of a sudden he's like, well, see, now we're equal.
		And there's nothing there.
		There's nothing other than just ignorant, I don't know, hatred or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ignorant condescension.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, what else would you describe it as?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That kind of sums up Alex Jones to a T.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, this next clip, we get back to a very familiar theme in 2015, Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Russia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Russians have been working with us to take out the Taliban for at least eight years in Afghanistan.
		Joe Biggs was supplied ammunition and supplies in the army by Russian hind helicopters.
		The Russians have been doing this.
		They are surrounded by radical Islamists.
		There's more than eight countries that are on their underbelly with jihadis attacking people.
		And the Russians want to take them out.
		And they won't even meet with them.
		They won't because it's their army.
		Incredible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Incredible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't sound that incredible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's the globalist army, these radical jihadists.
		Sounds pretty credible.
		You know what's not credible?
		Anything Joe Biggs says.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't he work a desk for the National Guard or something like that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Joe Biggs?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's not something that's come up on this show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know that to be true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If it is, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He works a desk at Infowars for sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And goes around the country with Jakari Jackson to non-existent photo ops where the president may or may not land somewhere.
unidentified		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was the last trip they took.
		Look, I mean, there's historical and present inaccuracies in what he's saying.
		And he's just doing things to conflate the idea that this proxy army of angry Muslims is one side and Russia is really the only people good on the other side.
		And that's really deeply problematic.
		Deeply.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's got to be getting paid.
		Right?
		He's got to be getting paid by these people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You think so?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He has to be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm not cherry-picking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I am bringing up whenever he talks about Trump, and I'm bringing up most of the times he talks about Russia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he never says anything negative about Russia.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, even if you are flattered by Russia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he wasn't at this point.
		Dugan hadn't said any of the stuff he says about him later.
		Like he's the perfect model of an American and stuff like that.
		That came in late 2016.
		So at this point, he hadn't been.
		He just sees himself in Russian state media.
		He just sees familiarity and narratives, and he doesn't realize that it's because he's absorbing their narratives to some extent, and because their narratives are harshly conservative and oppressive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that secretly is where he's at, too.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's all about freedom, but at the end of the day, his philosophies are incredibly, incredibly oppressive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's very against freedom.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He likes talking about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, loves it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He would prefer that nobody but him had it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He loves to fake cry, but where he really belongs is being the mouthpiece of an oppressive regime.
		Yeah.
		And, I mean, I've started to wrestle with this as we've gone along.
		Like, we started this with why did Alex Jones become Trump's propagandist?
		And I've started to realize now, months into this, I mean, of course he did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What else would Alex have done?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At first, because I hadn't listened to nearly as much of Alex Jones as I have now, I thought like, man, it's real crazy that this conspiracy theorist decided to just jump on this train.
		But the more I think about it, the more it's like, we all should have seen that coming a mile away.
		I thought it was fucked up, but now it's like, yeah, of course.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, everybody has written him off as a conspiracy theorist for so long that nobody paid attention to his hard-right oppression views.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, nobody really.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And harsh-coded bigotry and love of guns.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't like those being combined, and I really don't like that those are almost always combined.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Almost always.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that's not great.
unidentified		You know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If we can say one great thing about Alex Jones, it's that he's a student of history.
		As we've already seen, he has a great grasp on the Civil War.
		This next clip.
		This next clip actually dovetails into the Trump investigation because, like I said, I haven't cut out anything where he's talking about Trump up till this point.
		This is the first time he comes up now, almost two hours into our episode.
		He talks about Trump a little bit.
		This is a forgotten piece of the campaign.
		Okay.
		Apparently, some lady asked him a question with her hands on her hips and asked him a question about how bad he is about women.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex does not like this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I think I remember that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it weaves into a story about himself and a very fucked up retelling of history that is not true, but it's mostly about himself.
unidentified		Wow.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then I think about Jeb Bush caught with a pro-life senator's aide with her hands on her hips, bugging her eyes out, like, how dare you not like women?
		Just all in grandstanding to manipulate women to make a national issue.
		To see that woman stand up to him, all theater, all posing, meeting with behavioral psychologists how to put her hands on her hips, look at him with pure hatred.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I want to pause there really quick.
		I don't think anyone needs to meet with anybody, psychologist or otherwise, to know how to put your hands on your hips.
		Secondly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or how to look at somebody with pure hatred.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When you hate them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you have pure hatred for them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But let's also take this within the context of Alex Jones saying that the gun-free UT was run by Bloomberg and had CIA tactics and stuff like that.
		He's making this up about this woman who asked Trump a question.
		He's making that up and saying, this is all brainwashing.
		That's all he does.
		Every single time something like this happens, he just comes up with a concoction of, oh, yeah, of course.
		Oh, this is brainwashing.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But it's this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a big fan of him judging other people for grandstanding.
		Right.
		That's one where you're listening to that.
		You're like, dude, fucking dial that.
		Leave that one alone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She wasn't fake crying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also, so he's making stuff up all the time.
		And this is obviously another made-up thing.
		But then at the same time, we have to consider that he believes that psychic goblins are attacking him and what have you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Literal psychic goblins.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Literal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Literal psychic goblins.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he also is imagining all this stuff.
		He's projecting this idea of everyone's trying to brainwash you in the same way.
		Someone critiquing him is a literal goblin.
		Yeah.
		It's just this really fucked up.
		Anyway, let's get through this clip.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And CNN goes, did your mother ever look at you like that, Trump?
		This is how they stage stuff.
		This is how dumb they think we are.
		And whether Trump's a good guy or not, this is how they pull these scams.
		It's like Michelle Malkin.
		I'm not against Michelle Malkin.
		I agree with her on this stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not good.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		She said that I was a liar years ago and said it was a robot dog that Marines threw off a cliff.
		I'm not against the Marines.
		I'm against the defense of that type of behavior killing a puppy for no reason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea what it is that points.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And she went out and wrote an article and said I was a liar.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you are a liar.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, the Marines had even come out and said we disciplined them.
unidentified		It was a real dog.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then she had guys with her yelling, kill Michelle Malkin, leaning down behind me with cameras on me, yelling, kill Michelle Malkin.
		And they ran a national hoax that day, hard copy, extra, NBC news, CBS news.
		It was all over.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want to pause here again just to say, fine.
		Like, if Michelle Malkin did this psyop against you, whatever.
		I don't apologize.
		Sorry you had to go through that.
		I don't support Michelle Malkin either.
		That's fucked up.
		That's the right cannibalizing itself.
		Sucks to have to go through that.
		Doesn't relate.
		Doesn't relate at all to what's going on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do love that.
		She called me a liar.
		Now, I'm not against the Marines.
		Wait, what was that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what that story is about throwing a dog off a cliff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a robot dog.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can only fucking look into so many things.
		You know, I only have enough energy to.
		And this is like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like Astro.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This to me is like, whatever.
		I don't care.
		You are a liar.
		You maybe weren't lying about this.
		Again.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's get to what he's super wrong about.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I got calls from National Talk Show hosts saying, Alex, me may be over for you saying, kill a woman, beat up a little woman.
		And we got our video.
		Our video showed they were doing it.
		Thank God we have video from behind.
		But this is the type of stuff they can pull.
		I'm not saying that Dean was a good guy, but he was going to end up basically beating Hillary, beating Obama.
		He was a popular guy.
		And so they ran that hoax where they, you know, isolated the microphone that was a corduroy, not corduroy.
		How do you pronounce it?
		Cordis microphone?
unidentified		Cardioid.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Cardioid.
		That's it.
		I'm having a moment.
		Cardioid, where it only picks up what singers use, you know, in a rock band or whatever, only picks up what's right in front of it, not the background.
		Which sounds like he's screaming.
		Everybody's howling.
		And they go, oh, the scream.
		And again, those type of stunts.
		They tried to do that with Trump right there.
		And when you've experienced them running a national stunt on you, it's not fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So his argument is that much like the Howard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		His argument is that the media be stunting on him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but just like the media took down Howard Dean with that scream thing, that's what they're doing to Trump with this lady with her hand on her hips.
		And he argues that the reason they took down Dean is he was too famous, too popular.
		He was going to destroy Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm starting to think if I'm remembering back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, this is interesting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You might be more of a historian than Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm remembering back to Howard Dean.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I'm picturing him standing next to Obama and Hillary, and then I'm remembering that he was not running against either of them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was 2004.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was 2004 when he was running against John Kerry, I believe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was just before the Iowa caucuses in 2004.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'll give you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he won.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He had a surprise win.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, not in the Iowa caucus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He came in third, but it was a surprise that he came in third.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, because of the screen.
		Everyone thought he was unhinged.
		And that was a right-wing smear tactic based on a technical difficulty with the mic.
		It was not a setup by Obama and Clinton.
		But let's go down the list of all of the people who are running for the Democratic nomination just for fun because I have the list up in front of me.
		John Kerry, John Edwards, Howard Dean, Obama, Dick Gephardt, Hillary.
		Dennis Kucinich.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Obama again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wesley Clark.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hillary's evil twin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wesley Clark is the closest Alex Jones might say to a globalist.
		I guess John Kerry.
		He probably thinks so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who's Wesley Clark?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was a general who.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would he win?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Salt and pepper hair.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, why would a weird world?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he had a lot of support for a hot minute, but it did not last very long.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He came out with that whole thing where there were plans to take over seven countries.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Howard Dean would have been a great choice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's another one of those situations where, boy, the guy the Democrats did put up was the worst possible guy at the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		John Kerry?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		John Kerry was a terrible presidential.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I remember in 2004, my brother drove around a rehabbed Beetle that he had fixed up himself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it was made of John Kerry?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, the reason it came up is because he had a bumper sticker that he made himself on the back window, and it was Kerry 04 because even mediocrity is an improvement.
		And that sort of sums up Kerry.
		I think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sums up the Democrats.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Especially then, yeah, and now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fucking now, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I sincerely think that John Kerry could have been a decent president and had a real decent chance of winning had it not been for the Swift boats, which is Jerome Corsi and his ilk, who are involved with Infowars, and Larry Nichols.
		So congratulations, Larry Nichols, for destroying 50 years of our country's at least 50 years.
		Who knows how long it's going to extend in the fucking culture?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck, imagine if the Supreme Court hadn't stolen the election for G-Dubs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Initially, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We wouldn't be in Afghanistan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably not.
		I mean, who knows?
		It's tough to rewrite history.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's true.
		But it is hard to.
		It's hard to imagine that a Democratic president would get away with the biggest lie that you can possibly give, which was the war in Iraq.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The different country invasion.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're right.
		You're right.
		The right is much better at.
		I mean, they're wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They get a pass because we all know they're dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the thing is, I think that the right is always wrong, but they're better at being a safeguard.
		You know, like Democrats, when they're in power, can never really do too much because the right is so angry and so aggressive that they push back on everything.
		So even good things get pushed back against, and bad things get pushed back against so hard.
		And the Democrats don't really do a great job of doing that to conservative Republicans.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, we get called the alt-left.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When we fight against fascism, it's a bad thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Creeping socialism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Creeping Sharia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this next clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Our whole system is broken.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex Jones, towards the end of this episode, has a long bull session with noted chiropractor Dr. Group.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He comes in to talk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Noted chiropractor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He comes in to talk about how Supermail Vitality is going to be back in stock.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones also.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was running low.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones also.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In 2015, there was a shortage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was like the 70s gas crisis.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Stagflation, but with super male vitality.
unidentified		Yep.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A different kind of stagflation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Mada boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There he is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex Jones keeps doing this like, Dr. Group's going to be on, but this isn't about selling product.
		I just want to, I want to, I want to cover the waterfront with him.
		He uses that expression a lot, by the way.
		I fucking love it.
		I think we need to use it a lot more.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Cover the waterfront?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to cover the waterfront.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he's like, we're just going to talk about the issues.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It turns into, of course, a really long sales pitch.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But in the middle of it, we get this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, before we go to Simon, man, Dr. Group, what do you make of Russia hitting those ISIS targets and now already driving them out of many areas?
		Why are you asking Dr. Saudi Arabian Western-backed offensive?
		Russia's tried to come to the U.S. to have meetings in your capacity as the private director.
		How do you feel about global U.S. diplomats?
		This only happens for folks that don't know.
		At the beginning of World War II, the Japanese stopped seeing their diplomatic counterparts two days before Pearl Harbor.
		So it's unprecedented that diplomatic connections, even in the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1961, 1962, were going on.
		Diplomatic connections have now been severed.
		Russia's been kicked out of the G8.
		I don't think for, not our audience is very smart, but for the general public, I don't think they realize, Dr. Group, this is unprecedented.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you just mentioned a precedent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But be that as it may.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's unprecedented, except for the times that it's happened in the past.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Except for the time that I just mentioned, seven seconds ago.
		But be that as it may, like, you're right.
		Why the fuck are you asking Dr. Group about that?
		And I cut it out because it's a long meandering answer, but he's just like, I meditate all the time, but stress is high.
		Everyone's got anxiety.
		And when everyone has anxiety, it's contagious.
		And then Alex Jones ends up saying that World War III may be days away.
unidentified		Oh, that's good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Man, I'm glad he was wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and also good thing most people turn it off by the time Dr. Group gets on because I think even his dumbass fans get like, this is going to be boring.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Group, come on.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
		Dr. Group.
		I was trying to take a screenshot of the picture of Dr. Group's Skype because the wall he's in front of is covered in diplomas.
unidentified		And I was like, he doesn't have any real diplomas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want to research all of them.
		And so I was going to take a screenshot and try and get what are the details of this one and this one.
		But it was too blurry.
		I couldn't even zoom in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can just order them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just order them online.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No shit.
		So that brings us to the end of October 14th.
		And now we get into October 15th.
		And this is, I think, one of the most important days in our investigations history.
		Okay.
		This day is incredibly crazy.
		I think, I put it in my notebook.
		I think this is the day that Alex Jones's brain broke.
		I think that he lost it on October 15th, 2015.
		I might be wrong.
		I've made a lot of bad predictions.
		I cop to that.
		But the show starts, and this is going to frustrate the shit out of you.
		And I love it.
		It's going to frustrate the shit out of our audience.
		But Alex Jones does one of the things he does best, which he professionally teases why he's mad.
		He doesn't say at all in this next clip why he is fucking freaking out.
		He is so good at saying nothing for a long time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Watch this professional at fucking work.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Every few months, in the past, it was every few years, but now it's every few months.
		A group of stories come together.
		And with my knowledge and understanding of governmental systems worldwide, but particularly here in the United States.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is to say, none at all.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The tumblers basically click into place.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The safe door opens.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I want to cut here just for a second.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Keep in mind, this clip is three and a half minutes long.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That can't be possible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He says nothing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That can't be real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you, at any point, while you're listening to this, think you know what he's about to say, you're probably wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, unless your guess is nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whenever we talk about Alex Jones being an amazing broadcaster, this is my only evidence of it.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because at the end of this, he even talks about how he's not saying anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's fucking amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he can't do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's fucking amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So far, we're 24 seconds in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's said nothing except.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Every few months.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It used to be every few years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A group of stories comes out.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm a genius.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Using my brilliance, but especially America.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's schizophrenia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here we go.
		Everything has become unlocked.
		Here we go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you can really see what's inside.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And a group of stories the last two weeks come together in a confluence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which ones?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That is so important, I am having trouble feeling even worthy to try to describe to you how absolutely confirming this is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it shakes me to my absolute core.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This guy's a fucking pro.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Got a lot of long pauses here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In fact, this news is so important that when I saw it this morning before the show and it connected into everything else we already know about what?
		I almost went and to David Knight's office and said, please put on your sports jacket, grab all the news you're researching, you're doing the show so that I could get with Paul Watson or myself at a word processor and pull all these links together, put this together, write an article, put out an emergency alert, and really make a big deal out of it.
		Because if I just come up here at the start of the show and mention some of these stories and tell everybody it's really important and tell everybody, please get this information out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What information?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It won't go viral.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's so important.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If I say we've got a big announcement in a couple days and I build it up, which I don't do that.
unidentified		You are!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what I'm saying.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'll just tell you right then what the news is because I just want to get it out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Then do that!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So what I am here trying to do is make a big deal out of this and really get people who are lost in the haze of all the news, myself included.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm not on some high mountain here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This guy's a fucking pro.
unidentified		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That we can really look at the situation we're in and really see that the worst case scenario analyses that we've come up with and many others have now come up with, concurrent breakdowns, basically, is so horrible.
		And it confirms our worst, our worst, not fears, our worst long-term projections.
		Because we're not long-term projecting now.
		We're in 2016.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All of them?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Some of them?
unidentified		Your projections about what?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I am not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did you meet the devil?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Trying to be dramatic here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is dramatic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fucking fuck you.
		I'm not trying to.
		Fuck off.
		Fuck off.
		Come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not trying to be dramatic here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's so amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's so dramatic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's fucking amazing, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a gifted broadcaster to emote like that.
unidentified		To be able to be so full of shit about nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He said nothing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He said nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he does for another like three minutes after that.
		But he does touch on specific topics after that, but it's not what he's talking about.
		He starts talking about Agenda 21, but that's not the story that has got him all shook up.
		A woo-woo.
		You know what I'm saying?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So does he get to it?
unidentified		Six minutes later.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So did he get in front of it.
		Did he get with himself and get in front of a word processor?
		I'm a word processor.
		I'm assuming no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he was on the air the entire time.
unidentified		Has he ever written an article?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I think he wrote a book even.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but did he?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe PJ Dubb wrote that ghost writing.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But be that as it may, he does get to the story that is like really getting him out of source.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is confirmed all of his long-term projections?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Would you like to try and guess?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The worst long-term projections.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, it's October 15th.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		2015.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
unidentified		Fast and Furious 6 came out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That might be right in the timeline.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The basketball season, 2015, just started.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Golden State Warriors, they have no idea what's coming.
		They have no idea what's coming for them, but they're going to go on a tear.
		They're going to win 73 games.
		It's going to be amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would like for you, I know we're having fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like for you to try and have a serious guess.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Was that that year or was that the year before that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't remember.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like for a serious guess, though, like geopolitically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, what do you think could possibly be shaking him to his core like this that he has to vamp and put his head in his hands and pretend that he can't do the show and he's going to get David Knight to host so he can get Paul Joseph Watson to write an article about it?
		Because this is going to go viral.
		And if I just talk about it on the air, it's not going to go viral.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It turns out that all of the iodine is gone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, you'd be way more fucked up if that was the case.
		That's true.
		Here's a drunk.
		Here's what it is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we have megalomaniacs running the show that hate us, the better cleaners.
		They hate us because we don't commit crime at any rate that's measurable.
		They hate us because we produce so much wealth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They hate us because we're strong.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They hate us because we're good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They hate us because they know that we're not criminals like them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I told you that they were going to start indicting Republican leadership that was patriots.
		They have indicted two of Rand Paul's staffers.
		They're calling it payments for endorsements.
		No, the Campaign for Liberty, other organizations, that's what they do, is they give money to libertarian candidates to build a movement.
		And the Republican and Democratic parties have circled the wagons against the Tea Party because the Tea Party is taking over the Republican Party.
unidentified		Not a good thing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We've removed the speaker.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not really.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're trying to get a good speaker in.
		That would be like getting a good president in.
		It's just as important.
		Paul Ryan.
		Just as important.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Congratulations.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is a quiet, peaceful revolution trying to take our country back the right way.
unidentified		Nah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I'm telling you right now, Ron Paul's on next week, but they are trying to find anything to indict Rand Paul, Ron Paul, RuPaul, Governor Abbott.
		They've already indicted the Texas Attorney General.
		I told you they got the feds on me.
		Why do you think Drudge was here?
		Drudge has been told by Supreme Court Justice and others that it's coming.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Clarence Thomas.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They've been told.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is white knuckle time, folks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So how does that grab you, Jordan?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So it's because two of Rand Paul's staffers were indicted on bribes?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to know what the truth of that story is?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the charges stem from the elder Paul's 2012 presidential campaign, in which former state senator Kent Sorensen admitted to receiving $73,000 from Ron Paul's presidential campaign in exchange for switching his endorsement from then-Representative Michelle Bachman to Ron Paul.
		Federal prosecutors allege that the three individuals who were charged and indicted, it's not two, it was three, they attempted to file false reports with the Federal Elections Commission to cover up payments to Sorensen in exchange for his endorsement to Ron Paul.
		Benton served as Paul's campaign chairman in 2012, but has maintained his innocence.
		He went on to work for America's Liberty Political Action Committee, a Rand Paul Alliance super PAC, but took leave from the organization when the first round of indictments were hand down.
		So they paid $73,000 to a dude to switch his endorsement.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's really cheap.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's also very illegal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's really cheap.
		You should hold.
		If you're going to do that illegally, you should hold out for more than $73,000.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a state senator.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not even a senator.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It might be an influential person in various circles, but you can't get more than that for a state senator.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They fucking committed a crime.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They committed a crime.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But if they can indict people for committing crimes, if they can indict Rand Paul's people for committing crimes, Dan, they could indict anybody for committing crimes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they're Rand Paul's aides, not him.
		He thinks that it's going to be a thing where it's like, they're just trying to get him to flip.
		Or they're like, it's perfectly timed in order to destroy his campaign.
		But it's just that that's how the court worked.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is one of those things, though, where there is always a part of my conspiracy theory brain that's like, that has to happen all the time.
		That kind of bribery.
		It has to happen all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But people don't get caught.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We live in Illinois.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That bribery happens all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But they don't always get caught.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And just it happening, the courts can't deal with things they don't know about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, they can.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you don't have a charge, a court can't hear the charge.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And in this case, these guys got sloppy, and clearly Sorensen admitted to receiving the money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was paid off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look, he was paid off to admit that he received the money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the Globalist guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was paid $73,001 in order to admit that he took $73,000 in order to take down Rand Paul's aides.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because everybody knows if you take down Rand Paul's aides, you take down Rand Paul.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So then he also talked about the Texas Attorney General who's been indicted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So that's the big news.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, also the Texas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The big news is the worst projections of InfoWars is Rand Paul's staffers got taken down for committing crimes.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That confirms the worst of their fears.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what he teased for three minutes saying nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I got to get with Paul Joseph Watson about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You just got to get in front of that word processor and write down how these guys committed crimes, and now they're in trouble for it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the thing is, it's not just about them, it's also about the Texas Attorney General.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which he never says by name, because I don't think he knows who he is.
		I don't think he knows his name.
		His name is Ken Paxton.
		And here, I'm just going to read.
		I apologize, this is like four paragraphs or so, so I'm going to get through it.
		But this is from Texas Monthly.
		This is an article about why Ken Paxton got in trouble.
		The case, and the federal one, involved Mr. Paxton's work in a 2011 promoting and recruiting of investors for a technology company, Serve Energy Incorporated.
		Federal officials accused Mr. Paxton of encouraging and pressuring investors to invest in Serve Energy while failing to disclose that he was being compensated by the company.
		The investors included several of Mr. Paxton's friends and a fellow lawmaker.
		Court documents filed by the SEC claim that Mr. Paxton raised $840,000 from the investors and received 100,000 shares of stock in return, but never disclosed his commissions.
		Mr. Paxton told investigators that he accepted the shares as a gift from the company's founder, but the SEC claimed that the stock was actually a sales commission he failed to disclose.
		So it becomes a will they won't they, he said, she said sort of thing where it's like, ah, the guy just liked me and I liked his company and blah, da, do, dot, babe.
		But, unfortunately.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was basically an insider trading thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Unfortunately, the article goes on.
		We should note that Paxton was fined by the Texas State Securities Board in 2014 for failing to disclose that he had been paid to solicit investment clients on behalf of a firm who was paying him a commission.
		Paxton described that as a quote administrative oversight and paid $1,000 in a fine, so he's admitted that he's engaged in similar behavior in the past.
		The SEC also claims after meeting with Serve Energy, Paxton was offered a 10% commission from the company, and when that offer was made to him in writing, Paxton wrote back, quote, I will get to work, scheduling meetings with a number of investors shortly thereafter.
		The stock issued to Paxton is identified in Serve Energy's own records as quote payment for quote services, according to the filing.
		This is the bulk of the case against Paxton, but it's not the entirety of it.
		The charge also implicates Paxton in the fraud charges against the former Serve Energy CEO, whose last name is Map, who faces the most dramatic charges of lying to investors by claiming that the company had bulk pre-orders from Amazon and Freescale when they did not.
		Some of these investors were people who were recruited by Paxton, and phrases like, quote, Paxton did nothing to determine whether MAPS claims were true appear several times throughout the filing.
		Similar charges against MAPS stem from claims that Serve Energy's product, computer servers, were essentially or were especially energy efficient and cutting edge, which does not appear to have been the case.
		Paxton is associated with those claims, too, in the filing.
		Quote, while Paxton possessed no technical expertise and did not know whether any of Serve Energy's claims were true, he conducted no due diligence to confirm, clarify, or correct Serve Energy's claims.
		So that's why the Senate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so he committed fraud.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is why the Texas Attorney General is in trouble.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		For criming.
		He committed crimes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The way Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All of these people that Alex Jones gets really, they all committed the crimes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Alex presents that as like he was at a dinner party and he told people in an investment solve and he said, yeah, he filled out a paperwork wrong.
		No, he committed fraud and was getting paid under the table for bullying people into investing.
		Bullying is strong, but like really actively recruiting.
		That's a crime.
		There's a reason that's a crime.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Does this happen?
unidentified		So does this happen on the left?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, do we Unjustly defend people who are, who have like with this type of situation, with all of these fucking situations, with the Arpaio situation, with the Clare Clark situation, all of that stuff?
		It's always um no, they didn't commit crimes, they didn't commit the crimes.
		Well, I mean, it's always a, it's always a smear campus.
		It's always this other thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because there's like Blagojevich and we're like yeah fucking, lock him up.
		Yeah, so yeah, he was uh, he was on the Democratic side right, I just it.
		So why is it we, we?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why is it not okay?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For for us, we cast aside our weirdos Blagojevich.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Every liberal that I know is like, get him out of here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, get him the fuck on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anthony Weiner yeah, get him the fuck on now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe Alex Jones exaggerates a lot of the claims against Anthony Weiner, but he did a lot of fucking terrible stuff and probably should be in prison.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so no, I think that I mean, I'm still happy that Martha Stewart went to jail for insider trading.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She seems great, but hey, you committed a crime.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that a lot of liberals have a very largely even keel about abandoning their own when it's clear they've committed a crime, and you know what I relate it to?
		I relate it to what happened with smoking as a whole.
		Like smoking became very distasteful at a certain point and it used to be okay to smoke on planes and it used to be okay to smoke in everywhere you could smoke.
		In a hospital, you could smoke, your doctor was smoking while giving you a pap smear, right at a restaurant or whatever.
		And by degrees it became a thing where science came out and we're like hey, you shouldn't be doing that there, it's probably really bad.
		And everyone's like yep, got it, got it cool, cool.
		Sorry about that, sorry about that, we'll just go over here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh man, last night uh, I met a secondhand smoke truther oh Jesus, oh yeah, that was pretty great met uh, Boehner.
		He was explaining, he was explaining all this shit like the science was wrong.
		You should still be able to smoke inside bars because it's only 0.008 percent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I honestly, I honestly think he might not be too far off from the truth.
		I think secondhand smoke is a little bit exaggerated.
		Oh absolutely uh, but at the same time, don't fucking smoke in bars.
		Exactly, it's even.
		As a smoker, I get it's way better.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh man uh but, but not even close.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What i'm saying is smokers are a facsimile for liberals in this case that, like we would love to smoke everywhere.
		I mean, we're smoking in my apartment right now right, like we would love it.
		But we realize like oh, we shouldn't be doing that on a plane.
		It's contained smoke can't get anywhere, it's a tube in the sky that's fucked up.
		All right fine yeah, and we agree to change our behavior accordingly, uh and and go along with it, whereas conservatives, they're not like smokers.
		They'd be like no, fuck you, i'm smoking on this plane because if you don't allow me to smoke on this plane, eventually I won't be able to smoke.
		I think that there is that, and that's why people on the right uh, win all the time right, and they that they just vociferously defend people who are clearly guilty of crimes.
		And Alex, like it goes back to the the the Confederate Flag on trucks thing we were talking about earlier.
		If Alex had read any articles other than headlines, he'd know this stuff.
		He would know that they're like, oh no, this.
		This Sorenson admitted to taking a payoff to change his endorsement.
		That's not lobbying.
		No, that's a payoff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's a bribe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's not okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I suppose the closest um analogue is probably how people treated Cosby, or you know where, it's like, okay sure, 20 women came out.
		Okay sure, 40 women came out.
		Okay, at a certain point, even you know even the most well, although there are still people who say Cosby didn't do it yeah, but it's like Cosby did that shit, sure.
		Or the same way with Louis C.K, like Louis C.K. Definitely is a Should Be.
		He's committed sexual assault many, many times.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Boy, it looks that way.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he did it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He did it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I think that this is different, though, because with Cosby and with Louis C.K., there are long histories of really positive experiences that you've had because of them.
		Like, I loved Louis C.K. back in, like, the early 90s, I'm sorry, late 90s, early 2000s.
		Like, I thought he was amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even that before he shifted and became the Louis C.K. that everyone knows today, like, the I've got a peach.
		Look at me.
		Like, even those fucking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever seen a stranger on the street again?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, God is running out of extras in your life.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Him on Dr. Katz, he's amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He sounds so good on Dr. C.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But like, there are those things that are very difficult to you feel like you have to give up on them because you see the person as who they actually are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's different than just automatically defending your own blindly.
		I understand the struggle of like, man, this guy's art doesn't match up with who he is actually as a person.
		That's fucked up shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's a disappointment.
		Well, this is Alex just being like, if they take any of our team, they're taking us all.
		And that's more calm.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is a circle the wagons for any and every possible reason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just, how do you not?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's why you can blindly look past everything Joe Arpaio did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's why these guys keep showing up.
		It's because if you defend every single one of these guys, that just makes it more likely that more of these guys are going to be there.
		Like, if you, if you fucking pardon Joe Arpaio, there's going to be more Joe Arpaios.
		Yeah.
		Like, that's the real situation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, and the flip side of it, too, is, like, there is a power dynamic to it also.
		And then Alex Jones wouldn't give a shit if like a couple of Ted Cruz's aides got indicted or something like that.
		Even though at this point in 2015 he supports Ted Cruz.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you think so?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't think so.
		I think it's because it's Ron Paul.
		Like, because he supports Ted Cruz mostly, but he loves Rand Paul.
		And Rand Paul, to him, is like this image of pure libertarian essence.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And his fear.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise known as stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nonsense.
		Yeah.
		His fear is that they're coming after these Tea Party libertarian types.
		And because it's the perfect storm of, oh, those people did commit a crime, we're going to indict them.
		He has to support.
		In the same way that individually, even the white supremacists don't care if one of theirs gets arrested.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They did just send out warrants for one of the guys who beat up sweet.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was in Ohio.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A guy from Ohio went all the way to Charlottesville to be a monster.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It turns out all of them were from out of town.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But like that guy, I can't even remember his name, the Nazi who cried and everyone clowned on him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a former comic, that dude.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Chris, whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		McCantle or McCantrell or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't care.
		They're not going to break him out of prison.
		No one's supporting him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It turns out that when you're low rung on this terrible machine, you're on your fucking own.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Unless you become important to Alex Jones' machine or whatever.
		I mean, you saw what he did to Jason Kessler, the guy who organized the Unite the Right thing.
		He immediately pretended, oh, you're a Fed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, he just turned on him because he has no juice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has no influence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was in an unreleased episode.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Was it?
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		We mentioned it before, but we need to come talk back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, like, yeah, you've got to.
		Even the, we support all of our own.
		We don't really care about the bottom.
		Right.
		We support all of our own to a certain extent.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or if you're Trump, you don't really care about anybody who's not you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or who's supported.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You only care about the people who have supported you in birther hoaxes.
unidentified		Yeah, probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or have lied to you about Dennis Montgomery having evidence that Obama spied on you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		People are so fucking stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, we got some more clips to get through before we clutch this thing down.
		Okay.
		But this next clip.
		Alex is in a very weird headspace because of these indictments that have come down.
		And he says this, which thematically follows so many of the other things we've talked about on this episode and the last five episodes or so, Russia.
		But what he's saying is like, it's even next-level stuff.
		And I think it's because he's in such a fucked up headspace.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Russia was captured by the Anglo-American establishment through the Bolshevik disease and has halfway pulled itself away from the entity.
		And so is being besieged by economic warfare and destabilization foundations within.
		But Russia still is strongman mafia corruption, but it's angelic compared to the eugenicist.
		The Russians are not putting fluoride in their water and cancer viruses in their vaccine for the Republic.
		And when they bring down the Russians, there'll be nothing else standing against them.
		Except the American people.
		And that's why we're under attack.
		And the globalist secret weapon is the radical Muslims.
		They're going to turn them loose everywhere.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what you would do if you're a globalist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You would turn loose radical Muslims everywhere.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like you're driving around with a van and you're just like, get out!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Come on, yeah!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go, do, go!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go, do, da, da, da, ya.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go on, get.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but like what he's saying there, if you really want to sum up that clip entirely, it's Russia is the last line of defense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the American people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Secondarily.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Russia is important.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you understand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Russians get vaccines.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you understand that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody gets vaccines.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you understand that in that clip?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, not everybody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In that clip, he's betraying that he believes that Russia is better and stronger than the American people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That once the globalists take out Russia, they'll just walk right over us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, because we are the globalists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, not the American public.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, that's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're their last line of defense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, it's Russia because we couldn't possibly stand up against them.
		That's what Alex believes.
		He loves Russia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He does love Russia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can we get him to go there?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'd love it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can't we just get him to move?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, especially if it was in the north.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Send him to Siberia.
unidentified		That's what I'm saying.
unidentified		I get it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I got it.
		I got it, buddy.
		Yeah, yeah.
		I'm with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to skip this next clip because it's not really important and we're already at 240.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would you love Russia so much?
		But imagine him moving there.
		Just for a second, imagine him moving to Russia.
		Of course he would never do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, probably not.
unidentified		Ever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He wants to live in Austin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you know why?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because Austin's great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because Austin's fucking great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like a lot of America is.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Unlike a lot of Russia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Liberal America.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's occupied Texas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a fucking idiot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if you want to think about Russia, hold on to it for a little bit.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because we're going to get back into it.
		The next clip that I'm going to skip is just him faking crying.
		He tries to cry and can't.
		He tries to do the fake crying and it doesn't work.
		So eventually he ends up screaming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He just bails.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he just screams.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As opposed to that.
		He's fakes mad.
		But unfortunately, that clip is like three minutes long, and I'm like, fuck it.
		It's not worth it.
unidentified		I don't have any real emotions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, also on this episode, Joe Biggs has been sent out to a Hillary Clinton rally.
		And I believe that this is another one of the really important things in the projection and trajectory of Alex Jones going to Team Trump.
		He is out there to like literally, the goal is to cause a scene.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His whole goal, his whole objective is to stir shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just stir the pot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what Joe Biggs does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's why you send Joe Biggs out places.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it hasn't really been that way up till this point.
		Because the time that he went out to a Trump rally and showed off his Hillary for Prison shirt, that's not really stirring shit up.
		That's pandering.
		He's now started to go out to now.
		He's at a Hillary Clinton rally where he's going to unveil his Hillary for Prison shirt.
		He's going out specifically to troll in real life as an advertising tool.
		And I believe that this is where the soy bombing begins.
		And Alex starts to see that it is an incredibly effective marketing tool.
		And that's why you start to get people screaming, Bill Clinton is a rapist on television, and all this shit that Alex ends up doing to, quote-unquote, troll the media when what he's really doing is buzz marketing.
		And I think that this episode on October 15th not only has the breakdown of Alex being like, it's confirmed.
		They're coming for the Patriots because these Rand Paul Staffers have legitimately committed a crime and they're going to the first time that Alex will inevitably see a spike in sales because Joe Biggs went and trolled a liberal rally.
		Okay.
		I think that those two things are foundational in his shift.
		This clip is Joe Biggs out at the rally expressing his intent.
joe biggs ▲ ● ▼		So far, we have been able to basically weasel our way into the Hillary Clinton event.
		And right now, as you can see, I have on my Hillary t-shirt, and I'm standing in front of this Stalin-like photo of Hillary Clinton.
		It's very eerie.
		I'm literally deep in the lion's den right now.
		So I've got my Hillary for Prison t-shirt on under here.
		I'm going to release that later once she comes out and speaks and scream Hillary for Prison and take this shirt off and then start screaming Hillary for Prison.
		We'll see what happens.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Joe, it's key you do this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's super key that you just go make an asshole out of yourself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, because we need the sales.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because the money bomb was great, but we're into fiscal year 2016 now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now it's time to start.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've got to start ramping up for the 2017 money bomb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And maybe our narrative of economic collapse coming is not happening.
		Maybe people are starting to not be scared as much by these things.
		We've got to shift our strategy towards buzz marketing.
		And that's what they're doing.
		It's very see-through.
		Joe Biggs is out at this rally, and I've cut out all of it.
		I don't have any clips of it.
		But he's just getting owned in debates.
		He keeps trying to have debates with people.
		And it's so funny because Alex is back in the studio being like, these people are so stupid.
		And then the actual video that he's talking over is people making great points and Joe Biggs having no real argument and then saying Benghazi or something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then, you know, Alex will be back in the studio.
		He's like, push on Benghazi, push, push.
		It's like he's jacking off in studio to Joe Biggs losing an argument.
		It's really bizarre.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's That is exactly why these people are so frustrating and stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because they lose and they don't realize it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that if he wanted to do that, if you're like, okay, I am going to go start shit and start debates with people, prep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that'd be great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And come there with an idea of what you're going to do instead of this half-assed, I know I'm going to win because I'm loud and dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But they think they have researched.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But they're dumb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a pure hatred for anybody who knows what they're fucking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's the same thing that I run into when I talk to people who are, quote, into conspiracy theories and have just gotten high and watched YouTube videos.
		It's the same thing with Joe Biggs.
		He's the equivalent intellectually, politically, of someone who's gotten high and watched YouTube videos and wants to talk to you about the, you know, what happened on Jekyll Island.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's when they brought together the central bank.
		Oh, what about the CFR?
		What about the CFR?
		What about him?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What about him?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What about the Council on Foreign Relations?
		What about Bill DeBerg?
		Like, all right.
unidentified		What about him?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's, what is it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's the Dunning-Kruger effect or whatever it is, where you're too dumb to know what you're too dumb about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and if you're smart, you think you're dumber than you are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there are a couple people who do admirably in debates against him.
		They're thrown off by the fact that he keeps clearly having to listen to Alex and his earpiece and not really engage with the flow of conversation.
		But they're there for a little bit, and then we go back into studio where Alex Jones has an interview with a gentleman by the name of Paul Craig Roberts.
		He's a fairly regular guest on the show.
		He is a guy who's a survival type of guy.
		He's into prepping and what have you.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's also a.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think now might be a good time to listen to somebody who's into doomsday prepping.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He would not like to help you because you're a dumb libtard cuck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, but I think the doomsday is coming for all of us, so I think it's important to be prepared.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I guess he would probably just tell you to get guns and water and gold.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There we go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now that I have that information, Dan, I can do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This guy is a huge dick.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		And I think that one of the signs of hope is the two speeches that Obama and Putin gave at the UN on the 28th of September.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		Because the whole world saw that Obama was a stooge, a liar, a deceiver, and that Putin was a statesman who told the truth and stood up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How can you believe that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How can you actually believe that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't possibly really believe that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can if you really hate the idea of a black president.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't make any sense at all.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That did not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, I mean, that's why you can have a psych warfare guest on you and have no idea that they're doing that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, Putin is always lying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's all he does.
		That was his job 30 years ago.
		That's all he does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody knows that.
		Everybody in the world knows that.
		How can you possibly believe that it's not the truth?
		I mean, I get it if you are a Russian citizen and all you get is Russian-owned media all day, every day.
		But I mean, even fucking North Koreans, half of them are like, We're going along with this not to die.
		Yeah, he didn't really do any of that shit.
		Don't worry about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he totally did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, he totally did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if you ask me about it, but he didn't really.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great leader.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm crying about your dad's death.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he's amazing.
		He's God.
		But if you're here, come on.
		Come the fuck on.
		Step outside and look at this shit, and there's no possible way you can be like, oh, Putin is a statesman.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It gets worse.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Where it's like Putin's like Reagan saying to us, stop being tyrants and saying, look what you've done in the Middle East, funding ISIS and Al-Qaeda.
		Shame on you.
		It's like the emperor's new clothes.
		Putin really is being a statesman.
		What do you expect them to do now to try to counter groove?
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		I think the CIA will try to assassinate him.
unidentified		Okay.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		I think Putin's in substantial danger of assassination.
		That's what I think.
		And I hope he stops walking around the streets unprotected.
		No American president can do that.
		Only Putin.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's not a coward, that's for sure.
unidentified		Well, I mean, the people there don't want to kill him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that ain't true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That ain't true, my friend.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's like the argument that Trump had when he went to Saudi Arabia.
		It's like, no protests there.
		Or Wilbur Ross said that, I believe.
		But yeah, it's like they don't want to kill him.
		A lot of people do want him out of power, and then they get killed.
		That's what happens.
		That seems to happen repeatedly.
		Or they get thrown in weird prisons.
		Maybe don't get killed.
		They just get thrown in a hole somewhere.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, how many diplomats all around the world has Putin managed to kill at this point?
		Like 70 or 80?
		Some ridiculous stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the idea that they pretend that...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, plenty of people want to kill Putin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The problem is he's way better at them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's way better at them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he has an evolved version of the KGP that he's operating.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is pathetic, and it's naked in terms of how clear it is that this is a show that is demonstrating outright unequivocal support for Putin and Russia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And anti-American sentiment.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And he has not endorsed Trump.
		This predates all of that.
		This is where his heart is.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That Putin is awesome and Russia is the last line of defense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's profoundly fucked up and way worse than anything I thought that we would uncover just by listening to his show.
		It's not like we're doing any sleuthing.
		We're just using his words.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's just saying this shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		He just knows that no one's paying attention or they already believe the globalist narrative.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or the people who are paying attention aren't paying attention to this shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're waiting for him to take his shirt off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or maybe because he.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In the same way we're all waiting for Putin to take his shirt off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or maybe it's because he demonizes the mainstream media so much, people will be like, oh, what is the real media?
		Oh, it's RT.
		It's Sedania.
		It's these Russian media outlets that he points to.
		And maybe they believe the narrative.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they can't go to Al Jazeera or something like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Those barcodes.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Barcodes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Barcodes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're fucking getting your brain.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Go listen to the Dennis Montgomery episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So at this point, Paul Craig Roberts is gone.
		And they go back to Joe Biggs at the Hillary Clinton rally because Hillary has started her speech.
		And Alex wants to comment on it a little bit, wants to get a little sassy.
		And this is stupid.
unidentified		I've got to tell you, Phil and I fell in love with South Texas.
unidentified		We had a lot of green and chilatos at me.
joe biggs ▲ ● ▼		Don't vote for Monica's boyfriend's lie.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And what they do is they give him an anthropology briefer.
unidentified		Shiner bar.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hit Shiner Bar, Green and Chilano.
		South Texas.
		She's CIA anthropology.
		Every area she goes to, she shows the politics.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or you could Google so many.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is describing what road hacks do as CIA anthropology.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We, as comedians, have been in green rooms with touring hacks who have been like, what's the thing that people make fun of around here?
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That happens all the time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's the city that your city doesn't like?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's the small town?
		What's the one that everybody, oh, it's the Shelbyville or whatever it is.
		Yeah, it's the, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's the thing where it's like, how do I mad libs a joke into getting a rise out of the audience?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And of course, fucking politicians pander to wherever they are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, I don't believe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's lame.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's dumb the same way I hate the road hack doing it.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't like Hillary name-checking green enchiladas, but fucking why.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But here's the deal: you hate it in terms of performance because you hate the road hack in terms of like, ah, this is fake performance.
		And you hate that in Hillary Clinton as well.
		But that doesn't mean that she's being dishonest.
		She's just not a great dynamic performer on stage and has to fall back on those tricks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the same way that a comedian should evolve to the point where they're able to, on stage, ask, hey, what do you guys not like?
		Yeah.
		And be able to integrate it simply into their crowd work.
		Road hacks can't.
		And they just want to be able to pretend that they know this stuff already.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, pre-planned crowd work is the worst crowd work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's what that is, face it.
unidentified		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Hillary maybe has had Shinerbach in her life.
		It's possible.
		Also, I've had Shinerbach.
		It's fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's all right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a beer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you shouldn't be proud of it.
		It's fine.
		I know local pride.
		So this next.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Looks like we're not going to South Texas anytime soon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I go visit my parents in Austin and drink some Shinerbach.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I tell them how much I love the Shiner Bach, and they're like, you're a great son.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You should have a green enchilada.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And you're like, I've already had one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, Alex Jones is still doing some mystery science theater over the Hillary Clinton speech, but he takes the opportunity to break out some impressions.
unidentified		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Some of these are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Some of these might be offensive.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		She's all in any politics.
		Green enchiladas, the valley.
		She'd slit your throat if she could.
unidentified		And I listened as people shared their stories, their worries, their dreams.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Their worries, their dreams.
		I'm going to give you your dreams.
		I'm going to give you your dreams.
		I know your area.
		Green enchiladas.
		I'm your friend.
		I'm your friend.
		Obamacare, it's free.
		Two plus two equals five.
unidentified		Mothers and grandmothers who work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Mothers, grandmothers, each group.
		Grandmothers, mothers, Vikings, Hispanics, all of you.
		Black people, women.
		Ooh, ooh, you're all getting mentioned.
unidentified		Ooh, ooh, ooh.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's just, I mean, I'd get up there and give a real speech.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't go, I know you're Shiner Bach and your green enchiladas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We saw you in Kentucky.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		She goes, we know Jay.
		She's a here today.
		I don't know, gang girl banging girl.
		You think I'm joking?
		And then when she goes to like LA to speak to Spanish, she comes in and goes, Hello, good to see you today.
		I mean, this is the condescension of how dumb she thinks people are.
		Let's go back and listen to her in her monotone voice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want to say a couple things.
		First, him arguing that she has a monotone voice while she is the master of impressions, based on what he's saying.
		If she can pull off different impressions, she's not monotone.
		Second, she doesn't do that.
		Third, those impressions are racist as fuck.
		Yeah.
		Also, if you're doing a racist impression of a Hispanic person, he went hard Asian.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, in terms of racist impressions, that's a racist Asian impression.
unidentified		Oh, he sucked at the T. That's that hack version of an impression.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What is he doing?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then he.
unidentified		Then in the last part, he says exactly what he's doing.
unidentified		And then just like he's infuriating.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, we have to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She thinks people are so dumb as to buy that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, do you mean you just did a thing that she doesn't do?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's becoming really tired for us to argue that he's projecting, but boy, does he do that a lot.
unidentified		I know, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we have one more clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whatever it is they say you're doing is what they're doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or what you're doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whatever we're doing is what they say you're doing.
		But what they're saying they're doing is actually what we're doing.
		But what we're doing is what they're doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Will Shakespeare.
		So we've got one more clip.
		And it's where we're going to end, October 15th.
		This whole investigation has been about when does Alex Jones support Donald Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel like all of our investigation has actually been, why does he love Russia so much?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it's turned into that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was not the intention.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Didn't know that was a thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And a lot of the investigation has turned into, wow, this guy rewrites history a lot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, you have to whenever you predicted the different stuff happening and that it didn't happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So you're like, yeah, but what I predicted was what happened.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It actually happened.
unidentified		You just don't know that it happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're not awake.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're not awake.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we check in here.
		Alex Jones has a conversation with Joe Biggs about where we stand on the candidates.
		And let's see if any change has happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
joe biggs ▲ ● ▼		They don't really look at the facts.
		They don't actually go in.
		This is a whole country that's just obsessed with being progressive and trendy and cool.
		You know, we just had the last guy.
		He was black, the first.
		So now automatically we have to have the first female president.
		And if not, we're misogynist.
		We're sexist.
		We're racist.
		And it's that whole same thing that they keep serving to us every day.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe Biggs, who are you really liking?
		I mean, obviously, I like what Trump says.
		I like the fact he's aggressive.
		I don't know about Trust's history, but now they're moving to basically go after Rand Paul and Ron Paul, indicting their former chief of staff for nothing, literally nothing.
		I mean, this is getting crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, except for the Bronx.
joe biggs ▲ ● ▼		Well, it shows you they're scared of the Paul's, obviously.
		I mean, these are people who go out and speak the truth.
		There are some things that Rand Paul does that I quite, you know, I don't really agree with, but there's more things that he does do that I do go with.
		You know, Donald Trump, like we've said before, he says a lot of great things, but at the same time, he doesn't offer a lot of solutions.
		It's still early in the race.
		I'm still hoping for him to come out and kind of give me some solutions to these problems if we just bring it to the table.
		Building a wall simply will not fix this immigration problem.
		We've been to the border before.
		We've shown how wide open it is.
		And even if there is a fence there, in places in Arizona or Texas, they have fences.
		People say that get over it.
		They go under it.
		It's very big.
		We need to do something more than just building a wall.
		And that's just going to be a big waste of money.
		But, you know, like I said, it's early.
		He's got time to come out with some other things.
		You know, I think on the Democrat side really doesn't fit over there.
		I think he should have been in the GOP race.
		He doesn't really seem to have the qualities of the other candidates who are running for the Democratic contender.
		So who knows?
		Like I said, it's still early.
		We'll see what happens.
		But at this point in time, what I do know 100% is that this woman does not belong in there.
		She does not belong in the White House.
		She does not belong as our president.
		It's disgusting to see this many people show up in support of this woman, knowing that she's going into this with so many lies on the table.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is so frustrating for two reasons.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One, that you shouted that Joe Biggs was making a lot of sense until the end.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, then it got fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I mean, it does really bring home that everyone is just anti-Hillary.
		They're not really, they don't have any foundation of like what they're for as much as what they're against.
		So there is that, and I think he crystallized that point.
		But the idea that Trump is saying a bunch of bullshit that sounds good, but there's no solutions, I mean, that's very reasonable.
		That's a nuanced look at Trump, and Joe Biggs is way smarter than Alex.
		At the same time, this show is about Alex Jones, and it is unspeakably frustrating.
		He hasn't changed at all in terms of Trump.
		It's still, I like what he's saying, don't know if I can trust him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we're going to have to push the fast-forward button here.
		I'm trying.
		I know.
		This is out of control.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the thing is, I'm trying, but then at the same time, like, every few days, something important happens.
		Like, Drudge shows up.
		Or in this episode, Alex has the Confederate flag narrative plus the Ron Paul AIDS, Rand Paul AIDS getting taken down.
		And, like, this is the end of conservative.
		Like, there's too much that ends up happening that every few years.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Every few months.
unidentified		It used to be every few years.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Something so crazy happens.
		You can just see inside the box that normally you can't see into.
		Every few months now, it happens.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Every few days it happens on his show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is crazy.
		It blows my mind.
		Dan, I don't even feel like we're worthy enough to broadcast what it is that we're looking for.
		And this happens every few.
		Boy, I mean, we record every couple of days.
		Every couple of days we record this podcast.
		Sometimes something so big happens.
		Something Joe big happens.
		I don't know how long I can do that for.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was going to see if you could go three minutes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I couldn't.
		I was boring myself so much.
		How does he pull that off?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's got skills.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, he allows long gaps.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that helps.
		But, like, I mean, we know.
		We get it.
		He loves Russia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He loves Russia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the end of this investigation, really.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So it is going to come down to marching orders from Russia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe not.
		necessarily direct orders but once russia goes we're all in for trump i think it's going to be a combination of that and the various people who like i think my initial prediction is still half right but i didn't predict the russia stuff I think there's the Russia stuff, and then he's being lied to.
		I think we saw earlier Steve Pieczenik is going to show up on the show within the next few days.
		Roger Stone is only, I think, a month away from showing up, probably.
unidentified		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he has to be.
		Trump's on the show in December.
		It's late October.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, we're in the corner down to it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		that there's no way he doesn't show up within a month or so so even even if he does i think there's just these people lying to him and him taking in lies from state media in russia that he's like oh it's counter to cnn so it must be true that's i think i think that's it i mean we're going to keep going because i like i said our predictions have been wrong repeatedly But I don't see how that's not the picture that's taking shape.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It seems like it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But even then, is it the full-throated 1776 2.0?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Again.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't happen right away, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There isn't that turn.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It might.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It could.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It might possibly.
		It might be a fake love at first sight kind of thing.
		You know, you've had your own.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I never saw the actual interview that he did with Alex Jones, the current and fucking guy.
		I never saw the interview that he did with Alex.
		I can't imagine it was already that full, like, you're the goddamn hero of this fucking world.
		It wasn't that then, was it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it has to be.
		I don't know because I don't know.
		I didn't listen to the shows around it.
		But I think it has to be just based on the psychology of Trump.
		I don't think that he would have appeared on Alex's show if he didn't know he was going to get ejected.
		To put it in Game of Thrones term, if he didn't bend the knee.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I think that there has to be that transformation before Trump would give him the time of day.
		And Trump bended the knee a little bit when he was on, in the sense that he said, your reputation is amazing.
		We're going to be talking about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but he was just doing Trump speak, which is lies upon lies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I still think he can constrain himself a little bit, especially when it comes to compliments.
		Like, I think he always throws superlatives and flowery language on negatives.
		But when he's complimenting somebody, I think he is probably much more constrained because that reflects poorly on him if he's complimented someone who's, you know, not worthy of a compliment.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think it's more he just doesn't have a very large vocabulary when it comes to nice things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's probably true.
		But be that as it may, like, this is supremely frustrating as a job for me because I want to see real change.
		I want the narrative to progress.
		And I don't, I guess what the lesson is for me is I thought the narrative of the investigation was, why did Alex Jones support Trump?
		And it turns out the investigation narrative really is, holy shit, he loves Putin.
		And of course he supports Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, like, it's becoming very different than what we set out for.
		I know we've commented on that in the past, but like, it can't be stated enough.
		Like, this is really weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Super weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We have RT on Alex Jones' show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And guess what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On our next episode, it's going to get even weirder.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, god damn it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On our next episode, we cover the episode that includes the classic Tapwater is a gay bomb.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
unidentified		There we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want to tease that.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That comes up in the next episode, so get ready for that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nice tease.
		Yeah, that's well done.
		We will also be teasing a live show that's September 9th.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We should have said that three hours ago.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We suck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're bad at promoting, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		999, Herman Kane style.
		We're going to be at North Bar here in Chicago, Illinois.
		It's over on North Avenue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's at it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		No cover, I believe.
		I haven't worked out all the details, but I don't want to charge a cover.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've worked out generally no details.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There'll be drink specials.
		We're going to have a great time.
		There'll be some stand-up.
		Our podcast that won't go three hours.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Contractually.
unidentified		Yeah, it'll be a regular show, maybe an hour and a half or so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dance party afterwards.
		Jordan wants to do the 9-11 episode.
		I say no.
unidentified		Yeah, I immediately rethought that after we will see what happens.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait a second.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would we do the greatest national tragedy in a long time?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, it might be fun to do the 9-10 episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, see what the world was like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He just gets on a plane with no security.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		That might be interesting.
		We'll talk about it off air.
		Okay.
		But yeah, we're doing that.
		If you want to find out more about the show and find links to the archives and a bunch of other stuff, go to knowledgefight.com, our website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.
		You can subscribe to us on iTunes.
		That's always nice.
		We like it when more people listen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And leave a review if you like.
		Also, you can find us on Facebook.
		We're there.
		You can communicate with us, send a message, or you can leave a review on Facebook, too.
		It's nice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or write it on a piece of paper and just whisper it into the wind.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We'll eventually get to it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, officially up to all five-star reviews on Facebook.
unidentified		Uh-oh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Feel pretty good about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much for everybody who's said we're great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, oh, oh, oh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Another thing we should have done three hours ago.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've just gotten a bunch of responses from people in Europe.
		On our last episode, I mentioned that check in if your country likes Trump.
		And I've gotten responses from five countries in Europe, and all of them are uniformly, we don't like him.
		And also, I'm getting a real strong sense of most people here don't really care about your politics.
		And the ones who do, that like Trump, we think are crazy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that makes sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sounds about right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I relate to that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think we're all on that tip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but thanks for the feedback.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I really appreciate it, guys.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Beyond that.
unidentified		Do we have anything like, is there?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So I don't know.
		Do we, like, how do we get out of this?
		Like, we've just been recording for a long time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We could say Das Vadanya.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do we just, like, do we just cut?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, how do we end this show?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I honestly, I have not been listening to you for the last 30 seconds.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because all I'm thinking about in my head, and this is not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know we're doing the bit, but this is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Apparently, we're not doing the bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Apparently, we're not doing the bit now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This isn't part of the bit.
		I've legitimately recognized in my head that we're trying to do the bit.
		And all I can think about is John Rappaport doing that Russian dance where they squat down and kick their legs out.
		All I can do is think about that.
unidentified		It's a really funny visual with his big gray beard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just doing the kicks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's really great.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the legitimately, that image of John Rappaport is the polar opposite of actual John Rappaport, who is terrible.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you have any words for him?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would just like to say from all of us here at Knowledge Fight, go fuck yourself, John Rappaport!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified		I'm a huge fan.
unidentified		I love your work.

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