Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the groundbreaking (?) 16th installment in his investigation into what happened in 2015 to get Alex Jones to join up with Team Trump. Topics covered include: What HBO cast did Alex convert to loving guns? Did Alex enjoy The Martian? How much does Alex love Russia? (quite a bit) Does Alex finally support Trump?
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
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I'm Jordan. | |
| We are a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages while talking about Alex Jones. | ||
| Is there a twist to this conversation that you and I have regularly, perhaps multiple times per week? | ||
| It's a mix-em-up that we do. | ||
| It's a mix-em-up? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Okay. | ||
| The show could just be two, you know, fucking dudes who sit around. | ||
| And talk about a thing that they both are experts in. | ||
| Like Charlie Rose or something like that. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| You get two really smart... | ||
| Folks who are, you know, they know a lot about the topic. | ||
| Both of whom are emotionally even-keeled. | ||
| Absolutely, but that's not us. | ||
| That's not us. | ||
| We are a little bit nuts, and I know a lot about Alex Jones, and you do not. | ||
| I don't know anything about Alex Jones. | ||
| So we sit down and talk about him, and I explain what's going on in his world. | ||
| Right, and then via that we get into a lot of the issues plaguing all of us, and how we're all going to die immediately. | ||
| We're all fucked. | ||
| We're all fucked immediately. | ||
| Yep, but you know it's not fucked, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
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Nice! | |
| Nice! | ||
| Seltzer water along with a little bit of Tito's vodka. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Helps the world go down a little bit. | ||
| It's a Saturday hangover Tito's and soda day. | ||
| That's the plan. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| That's the cure for what ails you. | ||
| I think that's actually true. | ||
| Speaking of what cures what ails you. | ||
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Alcohol. | |
| The cause of and solution to. | ||
| All of life's problems. | ||
| This is not a cause, but it is a solution to a lot of problems. | ||
| I'd like to give a shout-out to one of our donators. | ||
| Will Shakespeare. | ||
| Shakespeare. | ||
| I'd like to give a shout-out to our new donator. | ||
| What's going on out there, Mike W.? | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| If you would like to become a policy wonk yourself, you may do so by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the support the show button. | ||
| Then you can become a policy wonk. | ||
| It's a delightful status to have. | ||
| I might have undersold that. | ||
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It's a delightful status. | |
| Everybody should update their Facebook status as... | ||
| You got a Facebook policy? | ||
| I'm a Facebook policy walk. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we are going to be back in 2015. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| And we will be covering the span of time between October 12th and October 15th. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And today is earth shattering. | ||
| Today we make some real progress. | ||
| Or do we? | ||
| Only one way to find out. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| Listen to the rest of this podcast. | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I went to therapy today. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I walked like five miles home from therapy, so you're catching me on weird mood. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Weird mood. | ||
| Almost like you've meditated. | ||
| Almost like I'm in a decent headspace and I might get a little silly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| There's nothing silly. | ||
| Stop looking at that Fitbit, you son of a bitch. | ||
| It says feed me. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I looked at it and it says, feed me steps. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| I'm not going to do that. | ||
| All right, get rid of that. | ||
| Get rid of it now. | ||
| I'm going to drop it in my vodka. | ||
| It's telling you. | ||
| Ugh. | ||
| This is the technocracy that we've all been fighting against all these years. | ||
| Alex is right all along. | ||
| It turns out I am a slave to my wristband. | ||
| Fucking global Fitbits. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's all a globalist plot. | ||
| We all know that. | ||
| But before we get to today's show, I'd like to start off with two out-of-context drops from Alex Jones. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| It's a special episode. | ||
| We got two. | ||
| UN diplomats lead slaves around in New York on chains. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Big news item. | ||
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That's... | |
| I'm going to go with... | ||
| Where? | ||
| Right in New York. | ||
| Can you find them? | ||
| Well, I mean, New York's a big city. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Where else would you hide but in plain sight? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| With your slaves on chains. | ||
| With your slaves on chains, yes. | ||
| That's a normal thing for diplomats to do. | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| Diplomatic immunity. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| This is diehard, too, isn't it? | ||
| So the next out-of-context drop, I'm actually going to set up a tiny bit because the whole purpose of us going back to 2015 in the investigation is to try and figure out when Alex Jones decided he loved Donald Trump. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That is the whole point. | ||
| But along the way, it's interesting to figure out what he thinks about other candidates. | ||
| And so, actually, on the span of time we're going over today, Alex Jones discusses what he thinks about Bernie Sanders. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| And here's what he thinks about him. | ||
| He's saying that it is immoral and wrong that the top one-tenth of one percent in this country own almost 90 percent, own almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent. | ||
| That it is wrong today in this big economy that 57% of all new income is going to the top 1%. | ||
| That when you look around the world, you see every other major country providing health care to all people as a right except the United States. | ||
| You see every other major country saying to moms that when you have a baby, we're not going to separate you from your newborn baby because we are going to have. | ||
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Medical and family paid leave like every other country on earth. | |
| Those are some of the principles that I believe in. | ||
| People from the UK come here to get health care, and our health care is screwed up. | ||
| People from Canada come here. | ||
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He just sits there and goes, everywhere else is a totally wonderful place. | |
| Welcome to McDonald's. | ||
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May I help you? | |
| I'm Benny Sanders. | ||
| I have a 70 IQ. | ||
| Shit, that was not an out-of-context drop. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Nope, that was an entirely in-context drop. | ||
| It turns out whenever you're editing things down, I have the ability to either export an entire clip that I record or export a part that I have highlighted. | ||
| And sometimes I fuck that up. | ||
| So I highlighted the portion I wanted and accidentally exported the entire thing. | ||
| This is the problem with you in a good headspace, Dan. | ||
| You're not focused, okay? | ||
| You're too happy. | ||
| You're going around thinking about all the good things that could happen instead of here, locked in your room, fastidiously getting these clips cut. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| I'm going to throw this bit away. | ||
| But you know what's interesting about that clip? | ||
| The thing that amazed me listening to it is... | ||
| As petty and stupid as Alex was being, he let Bernie talk a lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He let Bernie talk... | ||
| Almost the whole time. | ||
| And he didn't have anything. | ||
| He didn't have anything to come back with. | ||
| Except with... | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| I think the reason for that is Alex is aware that most of his audience isn't really aware of Bernie Sanders. | ||
| And so if he just started doing the... | ||
| Because obviously he's trying to do a... | ||
| Pardon my expression. | ||
| A retard voice. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I don't think that his audience would really register what... | ||
| He's getting at if he didn't play a clip for context. | ||
| Yeah, but I... | ||
| I always think that there's a reason for why he either talks over or doesn't talk over a clip. | ||
| When he talks over it, he's either trying to show dominance or he just doesn't give a shit and wants to score points. | ||
| When he does let people talk... | ||
| He's either reverent to them, or he knows that he needs context in order to score points later, like with that shitty impression. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| Well, it is October in 2015, so that means Bernie had not yet become the most popular politician in the United States, as he is now. | ||
| At this point, he's just a socialist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Alex hates socialists. | ||
| God damn it, Bernie. | ||
| God damn it, why aren't you the president? | ||
| But if you are an Alex Jones listener and you hear that, that's one of those things that it surprises me because that is a hugely popular position. | ||
| Across the spectrum. | ||
| So if you're an Alex Jones listener, you're not hearing any of these conspiracy theories. | ||
| You're just hearing Bernie make a goddamn lot of sense. | ||
| Right, but if you're an Alex Jones listener and you hear Bernie Sanders being played on Alex's show, you know that the context is that this guy is lying. | ||
| Of course he's going to say that you're going to get all these things, but that's just a trap to get to tyranny. | ||
| Because Alex has already laid that sort of narrative bed in place. | ||
| So even if Bernie Sanders comes on and says all the things that obviously you would want to hear, it doesn't matter. | ||
| It's not going to convince you. | ||
| But isn't Bernie saying in a real fashion what Alex says in a false one? | ||
| He let Bernie talk the real problem, which is the top one-tenth of one percent. | ||
| They own more wealth than the bottom 90%. | ||
| But he refuses to call them globalists. | ||
| And Bernie Sanders won't audit the Fed. | ||
| Alex has complained about that in the past, too. | ||
| And Bernie is a Jew. | ||
| Well, there's that, too. | ||
| Which is a big issue. | ||
| I mean, he would pretend that doesn't matter. | ||
| Right, but it does. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| In their world, absolutely. | ||
| So let's jump into this, Jordan. | ||
| We're going to start on October 12th. | ||
| I'm telling you, there's a lot of interesting stuff we've got to discuss coming up. | ||
| It's fairly fun. | ||
| Fairly. | ||
| Really underselling everything today. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| So, here, let's start this clip. | ||
| You're off. | ||
| You're off, man. | ||
| Do you want me to come back after somebody's broken your heart or something so we can really get you into the right headspace to deal with all this shit? | ||
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Hold on. | |
| Let me read my emails from 2015. | ||
| It'll really bump me out. | ||
| So here we go. | ||
| Here's the first clip. | ||
| Alex starts off his show on the 12th explaining that you cannot compromise with a globalist. | ||
| And yes, national sovereignty does not exist. | ||
| The family does not exist. | ||
| Mother and father does not exist. | ||
| Private property does not exist. | ||
| The Amish do not exist. | ||
| You will be assimilated. | ||
| We are the Borg. | ||
| Submit or be destroyed. | ||
| It's so over the top that only a complete flipping against it has any chance. | ||
| And I was driving into work this morning. | ||
| I was thinking, how do we get people to break their conditioning? | ||
| And it's just that. | ||
| People have to realize that you can't be reasonable. | ||
| You can't compromise with the globalist or the so-called political left. | ||
| They are not the left. | ||
| They are hardcore, brazen. | ||
| Scientifically focused groups conquering us. | ||
| When you get to even mid-level managers of the left, they will laugh if you're sitting around a cocktail table with them and say, of course we're taking over. | ||
| Of course we're conditioning people. | ||
| Tell us something we don't know. | ||
| I hate minorities. | ||
| I mean, it's just, oh, you ought to join us, you fool. | ||
| That's who they are. | ||
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Of course we're aborting the blacks. | |
| Well, yeah. | ||
| And then the left, the general public just sits there like mindless victims, like children climbing into a beat-up white creeper van because they heard ice cream truck music coming out of it. | ||
| But there's a demonic wildcat inside that vehicle to tear you apart. | ||
| They are enemies. | ||
| They are consciously evil. | ||
| And if you don't get that through your head and realize there's psychotic predators and sociopaths and mercenaries under them, You have no hope. | ||
| You got a lot of questions, but I wanted to say that I've started to notice that Alex Jones starts off a disproportionate amount of his shows by trying to really demonize his opponents, the left, and it just serves to radicalize his base. | ||
| I'm sorry, go ahead. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You're a kid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You hear the ice cream truck music. | ||
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Isn't that a weird, dark carnival? | |
| Maybe, yeah. | ||
| There weren't any ice cream trucks in my hometown growing up. | ||
| There was just evil carnivals. | ||
| Yeah, there were a lot of clowns. | ||
| Yeah, Stephen King's It. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| The whole thing. | ||
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No. | |
| All right. | ||
| Beat up Creeper Van. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You go inside, hoping for ice cream. | ||
| On one hand, you might find a pedophile. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Now, on the other, however, you might find a demonic wildcat. | ||
| What about just a wildcat? | ||
| Which one is preferable? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| What about just, like, a straight-up wildcat? | ||
| It doesn't have to worship Satan. | ||
| No, you want a demon... | ||
| A wildcat... | ||
| That would still be dangerous. | ||
| Look, I know wildcats are dangerous, but that's out of fear. | ||
| A demonic wildcat... | ||
| That's out of anger and hate. | ||
| That could be. | ||
| That's a stronger cat. | ||
| Yeah, you might be right. | ||
| And a demonic wildcat, I'm assuming, is at least 15% bigger. | ||
| Yeah, that is true. | ||
| It's like steroids. | ||
| It's like anabolic steroids. | ||
| When you worship the devil, you just get beefy. | ||
| You get a little bit bigger. | ||
| Yeah, everyone knows that. | ||
| It's in the white papers. | ||
| WikiLeaks. | ||
| So the other thing you seem to glom onto is Alex's mention of the Amish. | ||
| Yeah, why was that there? | ||
| The Amish don't exist. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There's a little minor narrative that he sells from time to time. | ||
| One of his waypoints back in 2015 that I hadn't really deemed to discuss. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But there was an Amish cheese seller that got raided by the government. | ||
| And it was because he wasn't using appropriate... | ||
| Pasteurization techniques and stuff like that. | ||
| And he was selling his cheese across state lines. | ||
| So he was committing crimes. | ||
| There were commerce issues and then also health issues. | ||
| And Alex was like, they raided him. | ||
| It took a year. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| But that's why he brought up the Amish. | ||
| He's dumb. | ||
| That's a weird way to go. | ||
| Also, would he be... | ||
| Maybe for or against the Amish. | ||
| He's for them in this case. | ||
| He's mad because it's the federal government. | ||
| Because it's like interstate trade and stuff like that. | ||
| Which is why we have a federal government. | ||
| Right. | ||
| For interstate stuff. | ||
| He doesn't appreciate that. | ||
| He thinks it's oppression. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Look, we gotta move on because the next clip is so much fun. | ||
| If there's one thing that I hate, it's oppressing the Amish. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I love all my... | ||
| Oppressing the Amish with these silly federal laws. | ||
| Breaking them. | ||
| I grew up Mennonite, man. | ||
| I love my Anabaptist peeps. | ||
| Shout out. | ||
| Shout out, Mennos. | ||
| Anyway, this next clip. | ||
| No. | ||
| Just no. | ||
| This next clip, Alex Jones brings up some protests that have been happening in Austin, and I got some interesting insight into this on the other side of it. | ||
| It was in the Houston Chronicle, and I saw the headline, and I said, is this a joke? | ||
| And I went to the URL. | ||
| It wasn't the Onion. | ||
| Spoofing the Houston Chronicle. | ||
| And then it was in the Austin American Statesman that the left is going to... | ||
| It was the headline in the Statesman, I couldn't believe. | ||
| Students to wear giant dildos. | ||
| And cocks for glocks. | ||
| This is in the paper. | ||
| Let everybody read. | ||
| Front page of the paper. | ||
| Statesman. | ||
| Also in the Houston Chronicles when I first saw it. | ||
| And you go, well, it's just silly. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| That's how they're going to protest people with guns on campus. | ||
| But no, it's pure genius. | ||
| It's just mindless, stupid. | ||
| Stupidness to just confuse everything. | ||
| It's CIA warfare. | ||
| It's CIA warfare. | ||
| So I don't know if you remember this, but I mentioned on a recent episode... | ||
| Dildos. | ||
| There's a dildo protest. | ||
| CIA warfare. | ||
| Yeah, I remember the dildo protest. | ||
| My dad was a speaker. | ||
| I did not realize that the CIA was behind it. | ||
| It wasn't. | ||
| Oh, are you sure? | ||
| Totally sure. | ||
| Well, if your dad was a speaker there, then he has a vested interest in making sure no one knows that it was the CIA that was behind it. | ||
| So you're not going to get an honest answer out of your dad. | ||
| Shit, you're right. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Oh well. | ||
| That brings us to our new segment, Never Trust Dan's Dad. | ||
| He is a CIA theologist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In the same way that Alex Jones' dad has a CIA dentist. | ||
| Indeed, indeed. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| But if you want to take his perspective with a grain of salt, even though he's a CIA religious studies professor, I called him earlier and we chatted a little bit about this because he was a speaker at the protest. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And Alex Jones is wildly misrepresenting what happened. | ||
| Wait, hold! | ||
| The reality is that it was a student-led protest, this dildo protest. | ||
| And as my dad characterized it, faculty could never do that. | ||
| They would get fired. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you had a faculty-involved dildo protest on campus, they'd be like, we gotta sit you down with a dean. | ||
| Do you have tenure? | ||
| No? | ||
| You're gone. | ||
| Goodbye! | ||
| So it started out as kind of a social media joke. | ||
| People were against open carry on campus, especially guns being carried in buildings, like campus buildings and stuff like that. | ||
| So these students, they realized that it's a decency crime to carry a dildo openly on campus. | ||
| But not a gun. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You would get arrested and fined. | ||
| America's great, right Dan? | ||
| Don't you love America? | ||
| We always make sense. | ||
| Yeah, so they started this camp, like not really even a serious campaign at the onset, but just pointing out that absurdity on a Facebook group or whatever, and then it spawned a real protest out of it. | ||
| It launched and they're like, oh, we're actually going to do it. | ||
| On the same day, Gunfrey UT, which is the sort of, I would characterize it, my dad didn't totally agree with this, but how I would sort of Just the broad strokes version is that's the adult version. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They happen to have a speakers-based protest against the open carry stuff at the same time. | ||
| So there was the student-led dildo protest that dovetailed into the adult gun-free UT protest. | ||
| And, yeah, I mean, it's not the CIA. | ||
| It's just smart students realizing, hey, it's illegal for us to have dildos out in public, but guns are cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| CIA. | ||
| It is fun. | ||
| That's a fun way to fight against what is clearly absurd. | ||
| You can't fight on that direct level of their dumb anger and stupidity. | ||
| You have to point out, look at you silly children. | ||
| That's what you gun people are. | ||
| You might as well be holding dildos because you're idiots. | ||
| So we're going to mock you and then you'll get angry and you'll go underground and you'll go on stormfront.com and you'll come out as a Nazi. | ||
| Thanks! | ||
| It turns out, yeah, that nothing you do is really effective. | ||
| No. | ||
| It turns out all is meaningless. | ||
| Yeah, it's all a disaster. | ||
| I just love that because on the last time he talked about a gun-free UT protest, he said Michael Bloomberg flew everyone in. | ||
| At this time he's saying it's CIA tactics and stuff like that. | ||
| And he's just making this stuff up. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Like, I'm thrilled that I have, you know, a family member who was directly involved in the protest. | ||
| Yeah, that's very cool. | ||
| It gives me an ability to look into the actual truth of it. | ||
| But I just, I don't think that people listening to Alex Jones who like him realize how often he is just making stuff up. | ||
| Like, Bloomberg didn't fly anybody in. | ||
| Bloomberg wasn't involved in that protest at all. | ||
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No. | |
| This isn't CIA tactics. | ||
| It's clowning on fools. | ||
| And the CIA is not well known for clowning on fools. | ||
| Well, extreme clowning. | ||
| That's what we call overthrowing government. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say. | ||
| I mean, yeah, but they didn't do it like they didn't turn many... | ||
| Regimes into nothing by airdropping DVDs of Operation Dumbo Drop. | ||
| No, that would be clowning. | ||
| That would be clowning. | ||
| That would be straight clowning. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex does a little clowning himself. | ||
| We know that he's a man who loves the arts. | ||
| You can't even make it through that sentence. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He fancies himself something of a cultural critic. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And in this clip... | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson is in studio, and it turns out the two of them have gone and seen a movie. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And they decide to have a little... | ||
| Wait, together? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's gross. | ||
| And Anthony Gucciardi. | ||
| I bet they're the two guys who, like, they can't sit next to each other. | ||
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Totally. | |
| They can't sit next to each other. | ||
| They have to have, like, two or three chairs in between them. | ||
| Yeah, and still insist on talking throughout. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
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Psst! | |
| Hey, Paul! | ||
| This movie is about globalists. | ||
| That would be a shitty MST3K if it's just the two of them watching an old movie and like, this is about global, right? | ||
| I'm sure every movie, that's their response. | ||
| Exactly, right? | ||
| But here is Alex Jones critiquing the Matt Damon movie, The Martian. | ||
| I saw articles. | ||
| In fact, I'm going to tell you guys to do this. | ||
| Google Asian group criticizes The Martian for not enough Asians. | ||
| We went and saw The Martian last night. | ||
| Super boring. | ||
| Super stupid. | ||
| Super politically incorrect. | ||
| Myself, Anthony, and Paul. | ||
| Super... | ||
| I mean, I want to get your brief review. | ||
| You didn't know you'd be in here doing this. | ||
| Total mind control. | ||
| The whole thing politically correct. | ||
| And women are in charge of everything. | ||
| Men are bumbling idiots, except for the Martian. | ||
| Met demon. | ||
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And... | |
| He's not actually a Martian. | ||
| It's just, we can't even build our rockets. | ||
| He's not actually from... | ||
| We have to go to the Communist Chinese. | ||
| It shows the Politburo in China saving America with the communist voting to save our astronaut. | ||
| Well, it's the Russian boosters we've got to have. | ||
| So it's not even accurate. | ||
| I mean, the Chinese rockets, most of them blow up. | ||
| The U.S. rockets blow up. | ||
| It's the Russians still have the best heavy lifters, but they don't even have the Russians in it. | ||
| The people sitting there don't even know the whole movie is international propaganda. | ||
| And it's every movie's like this, folks. | ||
| They just hammer you with brainwashing. | ||
| Sorry, go ahead. | ||
| And the whole movie worships Chinese people, and then the Chinese group bitches to add more to it. | ||
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Double big lab. | |
| The Chinese space program, even when they went into lower Earth orbit, there were questions, serious questions asked, you know, if they faked that footage, because it just looked like they were doing it underwater. | ||
| So for the Chinese to come to the rescue in this film, And it was... | ||
| We're not bashing the Chinese. | ||
| They're real smart. | ||
| It's clearly what you were doing. | ||
| We use Russian heavy lifters. | ||
| The movie is horse crap. | ||
| All of it's deception. | ||
| All of it's BS. | ||
| God, I'm sick of this. | ||
| Lying, demonic culture. | ||
| So there's a couple things. | ||
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So what did he want out of the movie? | |
| He wanted Russia to be portrayed as the heroes. | ||
| He just wanted Russian rocket boosters? | ||
| Yeah, because technologically that's accurate or something. | ||
| There's a couple things. | ||
| There's a lot of issues with the Martians' science and whether or not it's real. | ||
| Oh, it's not. | ||
| But also, it is not real, Dan. | ||
| It's fiction. | ||
| It's fiction. | ||
| The things that I want to pull out of this that I think are really important are, if this was just someone else saying, like, well, in reality, the Chinese space program isn't as evolved as blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
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Right. | |
| Actually, the Russian space program is really advanced. | ||
| Like, if it was anybody else, I'd be like, oh, interesting point. | ||
| But since it's Alex and we've seen his very hard boner for Russia, it seems weird that in this movie review he's even got to talk about how great Russia is. | ||
| So that's one thing. | ||
| Yeah, I noticed that. | ||
| The other thing that I think is even more important to pull out is that it's not propaganda. | ||
| China is a giant emerging market for films. | ||
| Don't understand. | ||
| Propaganda. | ||
| So when movies want to be able to... | ||
| Russian rocket boosters, Dan! | ||
| Movies don't make as much domestically as they do internationally. | ||
| And when you do take that into consideration, We call it the Transformers effect. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I don't think that that's craven or fake. | ||
| I think that's sincerely multicultural and beautiful. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But other movies... | ||
| As opposed to the Transformers. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of other ones are a little bit... | ||
| As opposed to somehow making robots racist. | ||
| That's a new one. | ||
| Thanks, Michael Bay. | ||
| Very racist and hacky altogether. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You did it. | ||
| Alex thinks that it's propaganda and like... | ||
| And let me tell you about my problem with The Rock, okay? | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| Now, I'm telling you right here... | ||
| Nicholas Cage is the bad guy in The Rock. | ||
| That's the truth? | ||
| Oh, I thought you meant Dwayne Johnson. | ||
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Do you know why? | |
| No. | ||
| No, do you know why? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Not enough Russians. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| Too many chai comms. | ||
| I don't know if even that's a way to make a sentence. | ||
| It's a Russian nuclear weapon that he's going to blow up. | ||
| I'm sick of this culture! | ||
| So ridiculous. | ||
| So, Alex Jones, cultural critic, continues. | ||
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How can you be mad at the Martian? | |
| I could see it. | ||
| Just depicting a different... | ||
| I could see reasonable critiques of it. | ||
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Oh, no, no, no. | |
| I didn't think it was like an amazing movie or anything like that. | ||
| And there was a lot of science that is, of course, narratively expedient. | ||
| And it was written by... | ||
| It was a book that was written, what, like 10 years ago or something like that? | ||
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Something like that. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It was an alright book. | ||
| It makes potatoes from his poop. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| Everybody have a good time. | ||
| When you talk about movies being scientifically expedient, it's like, hey, guy? | ||
| Hey, guy? | ||
| That's how movies are done. | ||
| Nah, I don't understand. | ||
| That's how science fiction movies work. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| They don't have to explain shit because they can't. | ||
| Don't you... | ||
| Dan, it's predictive programming. | ||
| You don't need hard sci-fi in movies. | ||
| That would be exhausting. | ||
| Stargates. | ||
| Stargates are real. | ||
| We know this. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Andrew Baziago told me. | ||
| Time travel. | ||
| So, Alex Jones is still a cultural critic in this next clip. | ||
| I think his main issue is that he didn't... | ||
| Matt Damon didn't meet all of the other Martian soldiers that are actually there fighting wars. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Which is why they kidnapped those kids. | ||
| If there was a scene in The Martian, if we could just splice it in where Matt Damon turns around and is like, wait, what the fuck are those kids doing here fighting wars? | ||
| That's Carrie Cassidy's review of the movie. | ||
| Where are the bases? | ||
| Where are the bases? | ||
| So, this next clip, Alex Jones, cultural critic, like I said, continues. | ||
| He's mad that there aren't enough shows on television about guns. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| What TV show doesn't have guns in it now? | ||
| Well, they're not all about guns, though. | ||
| Alex has some thoughts about that. | ||
| Naked and Afraid is very specifically anti-gun. | ||
| Because you can't even carry a holster. | ||
| You can't even carry it. | ||
| You don't even know where you would put it. | ||
| You can't open carry up your butthole. | ||
| Oh, if only you could, Dan. | ||
| That's concealed. | ||
| It's half and half. | ||
| This clip, he has a lot of thoughts. | ||
| Unless you're really good. | ||
| He has a lot of thoughts about gun television, and then he lies real hard about how popular he is. | ||
| But a free person, a person who's not a slave, to quote Thomas Jefferson, has the right to own guns. | ||
| And it's a fight between the logical people that know more guns means less crime and the poor fools that have never been around guns. | ||
| Every metric, every study, every poll shows we're winning the fight against abortion. | ||
| None of those. | ||
| In the hearts and minds, we're winning those. | ||
| We're on the offensive. | ||
| That's why the enemy's moving so fast. | ||
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You are on the offensive. | |
| And we're winning the fight on guns. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that's why I was told by History Channel, by Discovery Channel, by A&E, and by one of the major production companies that produces reality television. | ||
| That three years ago, the order came down, and I talked about it at the time, and you saw it in the news, that they were going to cancel all the major pro-gun shows that were number one on every channel. | ||
| Number one for those channels were gun shows. | ||
| And, by the way, I host... | ||
| He's talking about those fucking duck guys, right? | ||
| Currently, two shows on Discovery, two on History. | ||
| It's not like I'm just here. | ||
| I'm the main commentator on four shows that are currently airing. | ||
| So, believe me, I've been offered a lot of TV shows. | ||
| Yeah, you have. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| I'm sorry I sort of shut you down there. | ||
| I just wanted to make sure that everyone heard him say he currently hosts two shows on Discovery and two shows on the History Channel. | ||
| He has four television shows. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| None of that's true. | ||
| How can he even... | ||
| He doesn't possibly say that! | ||
| There's only one way, and it's like, over the last 15 years, he's hosted four pilots that never made it to air. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| Or something like that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because I've got his IMDB open now, and boy howdy, there are not four shows on there. | ||
| Why would he say that? | ||
| The only one that's possibly what he's talking about, and actually, I mean, we're in 2015 here, and the investigation, this show ended, it got cancelled in 2014. | ||
| There's a show called America's Book of Secrets, where it's like a talking heads show, but the episodes he's on are about secret prisons, the billionaire agenda, Area 51, Freemasons. | ||
| Good stuff. | ||
| He's on nine episodes of that. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| Out of, like, 35. I did not know he was allowed on television anywhere. | ||
| Well, but he was also on Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory show. | ||
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Okay. | |
| He's like a consultant that Jesse Ventura goes to for stuff. | ||
| But that was in 2012. | ||
| So that can't be what he's talking about. | ||
| America's Book of Secrets wasn't on the History Channel. | ||
| It was on H2, the secondary History Channel. | ||
| And if you go past that, the only credits he has where he's not an actor, and he has three of those, two Richard Linklater movies and Amerageddon. | ||
| The only things he has after America's Book of Secrets until the Joe Rogan experience are... | ||
| The Joe Rogan experience is on his IMDb? | ||
| Yeah, apparently. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And then Get Me Roger Stone. | ||
| Those are this year. | ||
| Before that, Grey State The Rise, which is a video documentary, which means that wasn't on television. | ||
| That sounds like a solid name for a video game, though. | ||
| I'd play Grey State The Rise. | ||
| No, I don't think it's a video game. | ||
| It's a video documentary. | ||
| No, I know, but I'm saying if it was a video game, I would play that. | ||
| Maybe about alien grays running around? | ||
| Maybe about Dorian Gray. | ||
| Conspiracy theorists lie. | ||
| Which is a documentary about... | ||
| How he's a giant liar? | ||
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I wish. | |
| It's just about Alex being a liar? | ||
| I wish. | ||
| It's about the Kennedy assassination. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The Conspiracy Theory Conspiracy, which is a documentary about conspiracy theories being a conspiracy, as I'm guessing. | ||
| Might as well go deep into the rabbit hole on that one. | ||
| And then Revelation Dawn of Global Government. | ||
| All of these are one-off documentaries that probably didn't air on... | ||
| Normal television. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So he's not the host of anything. | ||
| He's just fucking lying. | ||
| Main commentator on four shows. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In 2015. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Currently. | ||
| Currently. | ||
| As that moment. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| He's still the main commentator on four shows. | ||
| I get a lot of offers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I got a lot of offers. | ||
| He's been on TV? | ||
| If he got a fucking offer, I guarantee he'd drop everything and be like, David Knight, you're in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You take over the show for the next two weeks. | ||
| I'm gonna go shoot some stuff. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| Like John Cena does. | ||
| He takes time off the WWE, shoots a season of that American Grit show, and then comes back. | ||
| Alex would do the exact same fucking thing, get a paycheck. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he doesn't have to push so goddamn hard, sell this boner shit. | ||
| It's a super male vitality. | ||
| You brought John Cena up again. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| You didn't do the theme song. | ||
| I was mad. | ||
| I was mad. | ||
| That's a great theme song. | ||
| I was mad. | ||
| So, also the idea that the no-gun show stuff is a narrative that's been pushed on Alex's show by Ted Nugent because he's mad that his show got canceled. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's basically what Alex is talking about. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But just horse shit. | ||
| I mostly kept that in because of the, I'm on four shows. | ||
| No, you aren't, bro. | ||
| No. | ||
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Also, the idea that... | |
| Discovery, the History Channel, and A&E would all just go to him and be like, hey, no more gun shows. | ||
| None. | ||
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Three years ago, we're going to get rid of them. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Why would they tell Alex that? | ||
| Especially when there's still like... | ||
| Unless Alex is like, hey, what if I made a show out of guns? | ||
| There's still so many shows about guns on. | ||
| There's like that top shot. | ||
| I don't know if that's still on. | ||
| But I mean, there's that whole world. | ||
| Yeah, Duck Dynasty had heavily featured a lot of shooting. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| There's tons of stuff like that. | ||
| Alex is just like, why isn't there more? | ||
| There's never enough. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| But he loves guns. | ||
| And get this. | ||
| He's not just a guy who loves guns. | ||
| He is also a prophet. | ||
| He is also someone who proselytizes about guns. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| It's fucking successful. | ||
| Not only is Alex out there spreading the good word about guns to his right-wing audience, he's also converting a lot of dumb, dumb liberals who happen to have television shows on HBO. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| Check this shit out. | ||
| Wait a second. | ||
| Sure, because if you take a trendy out and you teach him to shoot, Mike Judge and I... | ||
| Not once, not twice, but three times. | ||
| He's back in town. | ||
| He tried to go see him. | ||
| I need to call him. | ||
| Not name-dropping. | ||
| I just remembered I need to call him. | ||
| He brings out a bunch of Hollywood people out to his big ranch. | ||
| We sit up there on his back porch shooting down like 500 yards, 50 cows, you name it. | ||
| I took the cast of Silicon Valley. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| Not once, but twice shooting in his ranch. | ||
| I brought out a bunch of guns. | ||
| And Judge and I were there. | ||
| We're here to make you not be anti-gun. | ||
| And within an hour of them shooting, they were all pro-gun. | ||
| And said, yeah, I should be able to have one of these. | ||
| Kumail and TJ are pro-gun now? | ||
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None of them are pro-gun. | |
| Zach Woods. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 11, 12 people. | ||
| The cast of Silicon Valley. | ||
| One of the top shows on HBO. | ||
| It was that easy. | ||
| And we religiously... | ||
| And Tobolowsky. | ||
| He brings them here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Takes them out shooting. | ||
| And Martin Starr. | ||
| Yeah, Martin Starr. | ||
| And then we just sit there and crack a beer after we're done and just... | ||
| Had a satisfying conversion to people becoming armed. | ||
| And they all go, I get it now. | ||
| It's just weird until I shot and it was so easy and it was fun. | ||
| And these women were shooting bullseyes and stuff at 200 yards and getting all excited and all. | ||
| And they were learning safety and everything. | ||
| We were shooting 500 yards, but they were shooting too. | ||
| And we're sitting there. | ||
| Like the ladies' tee on golf. | ||
| And they go, yeah, criminals are going to have them. | ||
| Why shouldn't I have them? | ||
| I can be trusted. | ||
| I'm not bad. | ||
| Sounds like a male. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like these women. | ||
| We're like, yeah! | ||
| Wouldn't it be feminist for women to be armed? | ||
| Because they say the feminists say women shouldn't have guns. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Women should be armed! | ||
| This is a classic misunderstanding that Alex is having, and it's because he's unwilling to engage and listen. | ||
| The reality is that the arguments that feminists have about self-defense classes and guns and stuff like that is, hey, let's focus on the real problem, which is men are assaulting us. | ||
| As opposed to making the responsibility ours to fight them off or shoot them. | ||
| So Alex is being like, feminists don't want you to be armed. | ||
| The reality is that they would be fine with people being armed. | ||
| But would rather focus on the issue that is at the core. | ||
| I'd be fine with only women being armed. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That would probably be a way better world. | ||
| I mean, there is much lower incidence of violent crime amongst women. | ||
| There's way less domestic abuse as well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There are way fewer women who are convicted of domestic abuse. | ||
| And then go on to shoot eight or nine people in a public space. | ||
| Strangely enough, though, when it's the other direction, a lot of dudes convicted of domestic abuse or have those issues in the past almost... | ||
| All wind up going around and shooting all those people. | ||
| Well, I'm not sure if that's true, but the ones who do go up, end up shooting people and committing massive violent crimes almost always have domestic abuse. | ||
| A history of domestic abuse, yeah. | ||
| Whether it's against a partner or a mother or a sibling or something like that, it's always fucking there. | ||
| And, I don't know. | ||
| 40% of men should be dead immediately. | ||
| Now that we've outed ourselves as dumb libtard cucks. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like Tobolowsky. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Do you believe that for a second? | ||
| That he took the cast of Silicon Valley? | ||
| We know that Hank Hill is sort of based on him, so it makes sense that Mike Judge would be taking him out. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like, that does make sense. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I love, I mean, I don't believe any of this. | ||
| No. | ||
| But be that as it may, I love the image of Zach Woods, Martin Starr, Kamail, TJ, all going out, and they go out to the fucking shooting range with Alex Jones, blow up some Tannerite, hang out. | ||
| And then they leave, and Mike Judge and Alex Jones sit around and have a beer and talk about how great it is to convert people to guns. | ||
| Like, that image in my head of the, like, post-coital beer that they're having. | ||
| That's exactly what it is he's describing, yeah. | ||
| That is so amazing to me. | ||
| Like, that idea, because that's the world he lives in in his head. | ||
| I'm going to guess. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I'm going to guess that it did happen. | ||
| That Silicon Valley cast members, maybe not all of them, but some of them did go to Mike Judge's house and they did shoot with Alex. | ||
| I'm going to guess that. | ||
| And Alex is so incredibly passionately guns, guns, guns, and also clearly was drinking, as he's indicated, that they were probably like, oh yeah, it is fun. | ||
| Yeah, totally, I like it. | ||
| Sure, Alex. | ||
| That still doesn't sound like, I don't know. | ||
| I'm going to guess it's a weird situation. | ||
| Next time TJ's in town, let's ask him about this. | ||
| Let's hit him up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| If I had more time to research, I would have contacted them if I had more time to research, but I do not. | ||
| But anyway, there was one other thought. | ||
| I like Zach Woods a lot. | ||
| We haven't even brought up Thomas Middleditch, and he's the main star of the show. | ||
| What are you doing, Dan? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He fades into the background. | ||
| When you have the star power of Zach Woods on stage. | ||
| Everyone else is secondary. | ||
| He is so good in the show, too. | ||
| I love Zach Wood so much. | ||
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He's terrible in The Martian. | |
| Because he's playing one of the Tchaikovs. | ||
| He was playing one of the Russian Rockets, and they didn't even allow him in the movie. | ||
| He played the entire Politburo. | ||
| He can pull it off. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| I think what we can really sum that up is Alex loves guns, pretends everyone else does too. | ||
| Oh no, this is the thought I had. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I had some friends in Missouri who were super into guns and they took me to the gun range. | ||
| And I get it. | ||
| I totally, like, I'm not anti-shooting guns for leisure or sport or whatever. | ||
| Like, I get it. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It is really fun in a safe environment. | ||
| But it also, when it takes over your life and it becomes so important to you, I really question that. | ||
| But, like, just sitting there shooting a gun at a thing? | ||
| Like, there's a stick? | ||
| Pretty great? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Amazing. | ||
| Pretty great? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've never... | ||
| My... | ||
| No, I've never done it. | ||
| I can't hold a gun. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| Court order. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| I think that you are slightly closed-minded in that, but I don't think it's a problem. | ||
| Because I'm a lib-tired cuck? | ||
| Well, I don't think it's a problem, but I think that there is... | ||
| You can have some fun out there with a gun. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| I thought like you before I went out. | ||
| So maybe I'm making Alex's argument for him. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I watched your... | ||
| What's the show? | ||
| Mythbusters. | ||
| I watched Mythbusters and they talked about how fun it is to shoot guns all the time. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Like they totally got it. | ||
| And I get it too. | ||
| I'm sure if I went out I would be like filled with all of my testosterone, you know. | ||
| Feeling like a god able to kill anything at any moment from a distance. | ||
| I'm sure I would feel like that. | ||
| That wasn't the experience I had. | ||
| I'm sure that I would feel like that. | ||
| But, yeah, no guns. | ||
| No guns! | ||
| That wasn't the experience I had. | ||
| It was more like, it's an interesting machine to use. | ||
| It's like, oh, wow, I can create change way down there from here. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's almost like, I mean, I kind of would get the same thrill out of a really good slingshot. | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| You know, it is... | ||
| I don't think you would. | ||
| A really good slingshot doesn't have the recoil and the fire and the explosion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's something... | ||
| It's almost like a telekinesis. | ||
| Like, I'm doing something and changing something down there. | ||
| No, exactly. | ||
| And that was fascinating. | ||
| But, I mean, who cares? | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| I went out, like, twice. | ||
| And I don't care. | ||
| I don't disagree with you. | ||
| I'm still gonna go with no guns. | ||
| I don't know why I'm doing such a fucking, like... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You're trying to tell me about guns. | ||
| I'm trying to do a really rational version of like, hey, guns are fine, but calm down. | ||
| No, I understand. | ||
| Because that is sincerely where I land on it. | ||
| Yeah, you know what you are, Dan? | ||
| Reasonable? | ||
| You're a fucking centrist. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| You're a centrist. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| That's what you are. | ||
| You're a centrist, Dan. | ||
| I'm not, though. | ||
| Come on, Dan. | ||
| How about you drop some super predator language, huh? | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Now that you're a centrist, why don't you triangulate? | ||
| How about you ride a wave of triangulation to defeat George H.W. Bush? | ||
| Why is it not okay for me to be reasonably okay with guns? | ||
| But, like, also think gun control should be a thing. | ||
| I'm just fucking with you. | ||
| I understand that, but, like, the parody that you're doing is a real person. | ||
| That is a thing that people do pull out, in the same way that there's a lot of different, like, the alt-left is thrown around by idiots, in the same way that centrist can be thrown around by idiots. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's not in... | ||
| You do have a very reasonable position. | ||
| And it's defensible. | ||
| And I get that. | ||
| And I'm not going to try and take it away from you. | ||
| And nor am I going to take your position away from you. | ||
| I think mine is a very reasonable one as well. | ||
| I think probably the... | ||
| You should probably shoot a gun. | ||
| I should probably shoot a gun. | ||
| Glad we found common ground. | ||
| Then I'd get addicted to guns. | ||
| We can find more common ground in this next clip. | ||
| I might as well face it. | ||
| I'm addicted to guns. | ||
| Let's start over. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex Jones gets really offensive about a whole bunch of things. | ||
| First of all, the schools, and then lesbians. | ||
| See, they got our kids in the schools. | ||
| They got them there. | ||
| They're teaching them, your mommy and daddy aren't your boss. | ||
| Here's how you perform fellatia. | ||
| It's all just infantile. | ||
| Silliness, but that's just the cover of the non-threatening. | ||
| Oh, we're a culture of fun. | ||
| Just join us. | ||
| Just mesh with us. | ||
| Just sink into the quicksand with us. | ||
| Oh, goofy, goofy. | ||
| So the men run around acting stupid and then women are repulsed by them and then go off and find some butch woman to be with because they can't find a man. | ||
| That doesn't make sense. | ||
| Butch woman will have a short haircut and have the duck's ass hairstyle and wear the blue jeans and roll up her arms and get over here, toots. | ||
| Yeah, I see these beautiful women everywhere with a girl and looks like a guy. | ||
| Get over here, baby! | ||
| In a pool hall, women walk over to your buddy's girlfriend. | ||
| How you doing, baby? | ||
| Why are you with him, huh? | ||
| Because the men aren't being men. | ||
| Hey, listen, cutie, go get your own girl. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| I'm a lesbian. | ||
| I'm glad to talk to your girlfriend. | ||
| I mean, see, it's just all about a muscling. | ||
| It's all a bunch of bullying, muscling. | ||
| They teach us not to be men, and then there's all these faux men now. | ||
| God, I wish somebody taught you how not to be a man. | ||
| You fucking pilot. | ||
| So they know what they're doing. | ||
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You fucking garbage human being! | |
| But that could take people out there for two hours and have some safe, good fun. | ||
| Over back on guns? | ||
| 130-pound woman shooting a.50-caliber rifle. | ||
| And when they shoot a big old quarter pound charge of Tannerite and a stump blows 100 feet in the air, and we're shooting cinder blocks and they're exploding, the Viking barbaric energy rises. | ||
| See, that's the bad stuff. | ||
| It's good energy. | ||
| It's high energy. | ||
| It's strong. | ||
| You're meant to be powerful. | ||
| You're meant to build incredible machines. | ||
| You're meant to take risks. | ||
| You're meant to excel. | ||
| You're meant to be strong. | ||
| You're meant to be honorable. | ||
| Alright, I'm gonna go to your phone calls. | ||
| Which is why you should treat women poorly. | ||
| You're meant to be honorable. | ||
| That's why you should fucking... | ||
| I love his argument that chauvinism is good no matter who's doing it. | ||
| Like, that's the issue there. | ||
| Men aren't chauvinistic enough, so women have to take over. | ||
| So now women are chauvinistic, and he's kind of got that jealousy in him of like... | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| I get judged for being chauvinist, but lesbians don't, and you're like, well, that's because they don't fucking... | ||
| You're an idiot. | ||
| You're an idiot. | ||
| Maybe sometimes women are just attracted to other women, and it has nothing to do with chauvinism. | ||
| Right, but I'd like to clarify one thing. | ||
| That story that he tells about being in a pool hall and a lesbian hitting on his friend's girlfriend, he's told conservative estimate 25 times on the show that I've heard. | ||
| Well, yeah, but each time is a new... | ||
| Piece of evidence. | ||
| Exactly the same story. | ||
| All the same details. | ||
| New evidence. | ||
| That means that 25 women have hit on 25 of his friends' girlfriends in 25 different pool halls. | ||
| That's entirely not possible. | ||
| And that's why Buckley is a cuck. | ||
| Cuckley. | ||
| How have we not gotten there? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Boy, it took us a long time. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| All right, we can end the show now. | ||
| I'd like to also clarify, because a lot of people don't know what Tannerite is. | ||
| It is this explosive thing. | ||
| You get a box of it, and you put it downstream from you, as it were, at a shooting range, and you shoot the Tannerite, and it makes a big explosion. | ||
| So it's just a way of... | ||
| It's like a firework that you can shoot, kind of. | ||
| A lot of people are unaware of that. | ||
| It might sound weird. | ||
| I didn't know what it was. | ||
| until I looked it up, quite frankly, because Alex kept talking about it. | ||
| Right. | ||
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But the other thing is he's talking about shooting these logs and they blow up and cinder blocks, and there's a little bit of a pause. | |
| And I want to remind everybody that on a show that we did a couple months back, he was talking about being out shooting with Mike Judge, hitting some Tannerite with some cinder blocks, and a piece of the cinder block came back and hit him in the head. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Which is one of the things that we suspect may have caused some brain damage. | |
| So he's glorifying this, like, being out there shooting and all that, not realizing on another show he's talked about, like, I got fucking hit in the head with a piece of a cinder block. | ||
| Maybe it's not all good fun. | ||
| So I'm doubling back on my position, even, that if you're not safe and not careful, even recreational shooting is not good. | ||
| Maybe it happened at the same time. | ||
| When he's drunk, shooting with the cast of Silicon Valley. | ||
| So he's shooting with the cast of Silicon Valley, gets zonked in the head. | ||
| All he remembers is that the cast of Silicon Valley loves guns now. | ||
| But maybe he is just a man with a very serious concussion and is concocting up all of these bullshit lies. | ||
| Let me be clear. | ||
| If I'm Zach Woods and I'm out there shooting guns with Mike Judge... | ||
| I can tell who your favorite character is. | ||
| I just love Zach Woods. | ||
| He's great on Improv for Humans podcast. | ||
| He's brilliant. | ||
| He's super funny. | ||
| He's very, very funny. | ||
| If I was out there shooting as a member of Silicon Valley and Alex Jones shoots some tannerite, gets hit in the head with a cinder block, all of a sudden I'm like, this is the best time ever. | ||
| So maybe I would be turned around. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Recreational shooting could get Alex hit in the head with a brick. | ||
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Great. | |
| It's a simple cause and effect solution. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| Now I'm going to go out there all the time. | ||
| So, this next clip. | ||
| Hey, Alex. | ||
| Alex. | ||
| Shoot that one. | ||
| Shoot that one. | ||
| Shoot that one right there. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Don't shoot any of those. | ||
| Shoot that one right there. | ||
| Walk a little closer. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| We've had a lot of fun with some clips so far, but this next clip is where shit gets a little bit serious on October 12th. | ||
| This next clip involves Sheriff David Clark. | ||
| Why do we have such shitty sheriffs? | ||
| Because there's this whole sheriff movement. | ||
| Yeah, I started reading about the fucking constitutional sheriff, which is... | ||
| Just die. | ||
| Just fucking die. | ||
| All of you need to just die now. | ||
| Well, it turns out that, I mean... | ||
| Go to the gun range with Alex and have a piece of cinder block go right through your brain, because I fucking hate all of these people. | ||
| Honestly, that might be what's happened in the past. | ||
| That's why we're in the state we're in. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| Alex keeps shooting with sheriffs. | ||
| By the way, it's going to be my show. | ||
| Oh, damn it! | ||
| You got there faster! | ||
| I was actually going to put it on the Food Network, though. | ||
| We haven't really talked about it, but Joe, our podcast... | ||
| I hope he dies. | ||
| I hope he dies immediately. | ||
| I don't care how he dies. | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| I hope he dies now. | ||
| Trump can fuck himself for pardoning him. | ||
| I hope he dies too! | ||
| There's a couple of really interesting things. | ||
| There is a 19... | ||
| 15 Supreme Court decision about pardons that may come into play that's actually kind of interesting. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| I read the Supreme Court decision. | ||
| It's a guy who was a journalist and he was trying to be compelled to give up his sources that he had. | ||
| And he got pardoned by the president in an attempt for them to be like, you are not going to be charged, you can give up your sources. | ||
| And he refused the pardon and ended up going to jail. | ||
| And so the precedent that was set was that you can refuse a pardon. | ||
| And by agreeing to a pardon, you have admitted guilt. | ||
| So there's a piece of it, and this is sort of disputed law even to this day, but there is a sense, and... | ||
| 1915 Supreme Court decisions don't sound... | ||
| Very rarely do I look back at any Supreme Court decision from that era, which is pre-nine judges. | ||
| Very rarely do you go back and look at those and go, oh, they got it right. | ||
| But there are precedents that are set still. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| And there is an argument that can be made by Joe Arpaio accepting the pardon. | ||
| Because it is a choice. | ||
| You can reject or accept a pardon. | ||
| I'm guessing he's going to accept it. | ||
| Yeah, he did already. | ||
| By accepting it, he admits his guilt in the matter at hand. | ||
| So he should be able to be sued in civil court and lose all of his money. | ||
| That's hopefully his arms and legs. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| And he should be a just fucking torso tortured until he dies. | ||
| It's unclear whether or not that will hold up or if that's the route things are going to go, but man, do I hope so. | ||
| God. | ||
| Also, people... | ||
| Need to go back and listen to our episode about the Dennis Montgomery investigation because I really think that there's more going on in terms of the Alex Jones, Joe Arpaio, Donald Trump nexus that people are not paying attention to. | ||
| I think Dennis Montgomery plays into this. | ||
| Along with the birth certificate shit, the birther stuff, the fact... | ||
| Dennis Montgomery is so entwined in Donald Trump's belief that Obama was spying on him. | ||
| It's not a small thing. | ||
| And people should really go back and analyze some of that stuff. | ||
| Also, we did that episode, like, what, five months ago? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We were way on top of this Joe Arpaio stuff. | ||
| Suck it! | ||
| Still hope he dies. | ||
| I wish he had died five months ago. | ||
| I wish he had died 50 years ago. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Everyone else is fucking piling on and getting a thousand retweets for their Joe Arpaio take, and we did a fucking in-depth investigation five months ago and maybe got six retweets. | ||
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So the world is flawed. | |
| That's our main issue with Joe Arpaio right now. | ||
| We're not getting enough takes. | ||
| I'll let myself, I'll let my ego take a backseat. | ||
| Let's just deal with him. | ||
| God, I fucking, I can't, I can't, I saw that. | ||
| There's so, there's so many, like, it's really not high on the list of all the worst things that are happening right now. | ||
| Like, Joe Arpaio, Arpaio getting pardoned. | ||
| Transgender ban. | ||
| A, a, a what? | ||
| 80-year-old man getting pardoned. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Doesn't mean that much in the grand scheme of things. | ||
| You know, it really doesn't. | ||
| But that's just one of those demoralizing fucking things where it's like, nothing matters. | ||
| These guys run everything. | ||
| And so they can just act with impunity. | ||
| And what can you or I do? | ||
| It sends a profoundly bad message. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because... | ||
| I think the worst part about it, I mean, the worst part about it is everything, but the part that is really, really depressing is that Trump phrases it and frames it as he got a witch hunt against him for doing his job. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which means that the implication is all of the atrocities he committed was, that was his job. | ||
| That was his job. | ||
| And every sheriff who isn't doing that. | ||
| Isn't doing their job. | ||
| His job was to bust up places and arrest every Latino person in it. | ||
| Just do sweeps and shit. | ||
| The stories that are coming out even recently, people who have been like, oh shit, he got pardoned? | ||
| Let me tell you what happened with me. | ||
| It's just horrifying. | ||
| Yeah, he's a murderer. | ||
| Yeah, so fuck Joe Arpaio, fuck Donald Trump. | ||
| Fuck Sheriff Clark. | ||
| Fuck Mike Zullo. | ||
| Are we going to do an Arya Stark list here? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Goddammit, if I was a faceless man, ooh, the shit that would go down. | ||
| I'm not going to say, I'm not going to confirm nor deny whether or not I am a faceless man. | ||
| I've never seen you as someone else, but why would I know? | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| So this clip has David Clark in it, and it's about... | ||
| How Barack Obama... | ||
| You have heard me refer to myself as no one, though, many a time. | ||
| So many times. | ||
| I have to cut it out of the podcast all the time. | ||
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That's why editing takes me so long. | |
| A co-host is no one. | ||
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Stop it! | |
| This is about how Obama went to Oregon after that shooting that happened like a week or so back in the timeline now. | ||
| Yeah, like a president. | ||
| Like a good fucking president. | ||
| David Clark has some thoughts about it. | ||
| And when we get back on the other side, I'll explain why these thoughts are deeply troubling. | ||
| I mean, what helpless jackasses that have inherited this incredible republic? | ||
| The greatest men in the world have ever seen. | ||
| All the foreign historians marveled at America. | ||
| And now these people have taken over the house. | ||
| This is what collectivism has created. | ||
| Giant piles of stupid jellyfish. | ||
| Let's go to the clip. | ||
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You know, he never misses an opportunity to politicize something. | |
| Anytime there's a tragedy that happens in the United States, the first thing he does is goes into his political bag of tricks to see what he can accomplish on his agenda. | ||
| And I think that that's sad that he exploits these people. | ||
| And they saw right through it. | ||
| That's why I said I'm glad they did it. | ||
| You know, there's a certain amount of respect for the president of the United States. | ||
| But when he takes advantage and uses them to achieve a political agenda, I'm glad to see that they slap back. | ||
| Do as I say, not as I do, President. | ||
| And he speaks as he's surrounded by this protective bubble, which he should have with the Armed Secret Service. | ||
| If he wants to disarm people, he should start with his security staff. | ||
| You're a fucking idiot. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And let's get that meme out there, folks. | ||
| In fact, let's repost Drudge's clip. | ||
| The article about Drudge says, you know, Obama, drop your guns. | ||
| I want to repost that article, you know, the same article. | ||
| And I want it just to go viral. | ||
| Did you hear me last Tuesday? | ||
| And Wednesday, I said, this is going to go viral. | ||
| And everybody picked it up. | ||
| A lot of them gave Drudge the credit. | ||
| Drudge is a communicator, folks. | ||
| We have to get aggressive. | ||
| We have to counter them. | ||
| Update. | ||
| Matt Drudge challenges Obama. | ||
| Give up your guns. | ||
| Disarm Obama. | ||
| So here's why that clip is particularly troubling. | ||
| You have Sheriff Clark on television making the same point that Alex Jones and Matt Drudge made on an episode like a week back or so. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, here is the part that's even more troubling. | ||
| Because that would be fucked up on its own. | ||
| That you have this sheriff, I don't know why he's being in national television, but still telling that the president should have his security removed. | ||
| Because we're dumb. | ||
| Because we're dumb and America deserves everything that it's getting. | ||
| That would be crazy in and of itself. | ||
| But, about a month or two, I think two months after this, Sheriff Clark was in Russia. | ||
| Sheriff Clark. | ||
| Why is Sheriff Clark in Russia? | ||
| He went along. | ||
| Because we talked about that before. | ||
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There's... | |
| That can't be an okay thing, right? | ||
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No. | |
| Unless he's on like a nice vacation. | ||
| But then he winds up in the most Russian administration that America's ever had. | ||
| Well, thankfully he didn't end up in the administration. | ||
| He stepped down or whatever. | ||
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Oh, that's right. | |
| That's right. | ||
| He was in Russia at the same time that Michael Flynn was in Russia. | ||
| And the reason he was there was because he was part of an NRA delegation that went over there. | ||
| And they met with this gentleman named Rogozin. | ||
| I mean, that's not his first name. | ||
| Dmitry Rogozin. | ||
| He's a hardline deputy to Vladimir Putin, the head of Russia's defense industry and longtime opponent of American power. | ||
| He's been sanctioned because of his role in the invasion of Crimea and eastern Ukraine. | ||
| And so Sheriff Clark, along with some other folks who are super... | ||
| gun positive folk went over and met with him, which they claim was just because he's into guns. | ||
| I'm like, I don't know. | ||
| I don't think that makes sense. | ||
| We just went over to meet with one of the most high-powered men in Russia because he loves guns. | ||
| We love guns. | ||
| He loves guns. | ||
| There's definitely nothing to look into now. | ||
| Everybody look away. | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| Here's Alexander Dugan to tell us why this isn't a big deal. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Here's something that I want to impress upon everybody. | ||
| Let me just read from this article in Daily Beast. | ||
| Rogozin was the leader of the ultra-right party called Rodina, or Motherland. | ||
| And famously believes in the restoration of the Russian Empire, including what he calls Russian America, which is to say, Alaska. | ||
| To wrestle control of the party, he turned its course from a party that was occasionally in opposition to Putin to a strictly pro-Putin party. | ||
| In 2005, Rogozin and his party miscalculated Putin's anti-immigrant mood and got kicked out of the parliament for a chauvinistic promotion video that said, let's clean the garbage, featuring Central Asian workers eating a watermelon and spitting on the ground. | ||
| So he is a bigot. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He's even more racially angry and against immigrants than Putin. | ||
| This is the guy who David Clark went over and met with in Russia two months after he's telling Obama to give up his guns. | ||
| And Alex is saying, yeah, all right. | ||
| So you have a triangulation, at least in terms of the people who are making the exact same point and saying it the exact same way. | ||
| In Matt Drudge, Alex Jones, and David Clark. | ||
| That is an incredible problem. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For all of them. | ||
| For all of us. | ||
| Apparently, they have no problems. | ||
| No. | ||
| Apparently, they are fucking... | ||
| Look, if you can pardon Arpaio, who is really under any kind of threat now? | ||
| If you're an ally of Trump, the point that he just made was... | ||
| I can do whatever the fuck I want. | ||
| And laws don't mean anything as long as you're my friend. | ||
| Which is the entire problem with a monarchy. | ||
| Which apparently is what we are just dealing with now. | ||
| That's just what's going on. | ||
| Why did we elect people who hate America so much? | ||
| It's amazing to me how much they despise America. | ||
| How much they hate the Constitution. | ||
| They hate people. | ||
| But they love the Constitution. | ||
| They don't even know what the Constitution fucking says. | ||
| The people who scream First Amendment or Second Amendment rights don't have any fucking clue what the words are. | ||
| And even if they did read it, they couldn't comprehend what it fucking says. | ||
| There's some great old videos of Sam Seder going out to libertarian marches and asking people about the Constitution. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And there's some fucking... | ||
| That amazing, like, well, I haven't read it, but I'm planning on it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I'm planning on it. | ||
| You're at a Constitution march. | ||
| I hate these people so much. | ||
| So I wanted to just read this quote, too, because I think this is important. | ||
| This is from that same article. | ||
| It's disconcerting that they would be meeting with a Russian official about anything, given their vocal support of the president. | ||
| They're talking about Donald Trump. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| So, you kind of get the sense that they were over there in some sort of... | ||
| Wink, wink. | ||
| Nudge, nudge. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You scratch my back, Putin owns you. | ||
| Or you have already scratched our back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the idea that this sheriff who is a monster and is responsible for a lot of deaths. | ||
| Also a murderer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The fun thing about the constitutional sheriff movement is apparently let's murder people as part of it. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like a tenant. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Duterte in fucking the Philippines where it's like, hey, just go murder people who do drugs. | ||
| We're going to deputize everybody. | ||
| If you kill somebody who does or sells drugs, you're fine. | ||
| Constitutional sheriffs strike me sort of as like mid-range generals in a junta. | ||
| It's just like they think that they're military. | ||
| They think that they know what everyone wants, and it is not. | ||
| And it's mostly sociopaths. | ||
| It's entirely sociological. | ||
| David Clark and Joe Arpaio are two of the most awful people imaginable. | ||
| And they're remorseless. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They just don't care. | ||
| I think that an image and a picture is starting to become clear that there are a lot of people that are either actively working with Russia, David Clark, and people who are being duped by Russian influence and propaganda. | ||
| Matt Drudge, Alex Jones. | ||
| Matt Drudge's influence, whether he's actually... | ||
| He knows what he's doing. | ||
| I can't tell. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| He's an influencer. | ||
| Yeah, but I think that Alex Jones... | ||
| He's a fucking moron. | ||
| I think that David Clark certainly knows what he's doing. | ||
| Alex Jones is being fooled. | ||
| And then Matt Drudge, I have no idea. | ||
| But they're all saying the same thing. | ||
| And that's a fucking problem because it is a talking point and a narrative that is clearly coming out of Russia. | ||
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So... | |
| Hey, guys. | ||
| Let's hope that our vaunted House Intelligence and Senate Intelligence Committees are gonna figure this thing out and we're just gonna wash it away. | ||
| This investigation is so fucking weird. | ||
| It's gonna be solved. | ||
| I didn't expect any of this. | ||
| No, I think it's... | ||
| It's so fucked up where we're at. | ||
| It's weird to go through all of this because I am... | ||
| Such a skeptic on, like, oh, Russia did it, and none of the, like, you know, and that's a lot of the, one of the ways that people are saying that we're deflecting from the fact that Hillary didn't go to Wisconsin, or whatever. | ||
| She should have. | ||
| She absolutely should have. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not deflecting anything. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| No, I agree with you, but the more you unpack this shit, the more it's like, goddammit, Donald Trump... | ||
| I genuinely believe that one of the ways that you can really exploit media and trick people is following along with the idea that people can't keep two thoughts in their head at the same time. | ||
| And, you know, one of the games that propagandists play is... | ||
| Tricking you into thinking that two things can't be true. | ||
| And in this case, Hillary should have gone to Wisconsin. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| And Russia clearly did some fucked up stuff. | ||
| That is also true. | ||
| Those both can be true. | ||
| They aren't mutually exclusive at all, but the way that everything is presented tricks you into thinking, oh... | ||
| Oh, if you believe that Russia fucked up, then you're excusing Hillary. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or if you're like, no, Hillary didn't need to go... | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's just nonsense. | ||
| No, it's so much Twitter takes. | ||
| It's so hard to... | ||
| Hot take culture. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You know what, fucking... | ||
| We're recording this over the weekend, and last night I was monitoring Hurricane Harvey hitting, and that hot take culture... | ||
| I'm fucking done with it. | ||
| Watching it happen in real time with an actual natural disaster happening was just so fucking distasteful. | ||
| Just people making jokes and stuff. | ||
| Like, hey, there's a building that just collapsed and people are stuck inside and might not be able to get out. | ||
| It is super weird to watch that. | ||
| Because... | ||
| And it's super weird all across the board because a lot of the stuff that we are... | ||
| I like that pronunciation. | ||
| I'm screaming about Arpaio's fucking pardon. | ||
| It isn't actually affecting me. | ||
| From where we're at. | ||
| But not yet. | ||
| I don't feel like the personal effect of it. | ||
| I go home and it's not like anything that I've done has been changed by Arpaio being pardoned. | ||
| In the same way that it is so unimaginable to think of all the damage that is being done while we are talking. | ||
| and Yeah, you're watching a disaster movie. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's a real disaster movie. | ||
| It looks a lot like it. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| So we're going to get back into more heavy geopolitical issues, but in this next clip, Alex Jones goes to the phones, and he gets just a dumb, dumb fucking caller. | ||
| Let's go to Brad in Louisiana. | ||
| Thanks for holding her on the air, Brad. | ||
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Hey, cowboy. | |
| I just wanted to let you know that you're going to be the first to know that I'm no longer racist. | ||
| And I can prove it. | ||
| I had a high-level respected source confirm the fact that though I'm Caucasian, I do have a color. | ||
| And we found out what color it is. | ||
| And it happens to be eggshell beige. | ||
| So I kept a copy of the swatch of paint from the home improvement paint manager in my wallet right behind my driver's license. | ||
| And so I'm a question of color now. | ||
| Secondly, I'd like to... | ||
| I myself am kind of like a pink. | ||
| Like piggy pink. | ||
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I've seen you into the rosy kind of hues there a couple of times. | |
| But yes, I'm official. | ||
| So I guess anybody can say anything about that. | ||
| So yeah, great. | ||
| He goes on to talk about Social Security. | ||
| I just... | ||
| I just wish we didn't have to live in the same country as these people. | ||
| It's pretty wild. | ||
| Can't we put them somewhere else? | ||
| They should secede. | ||
| We should, yeah. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| If you're a MAGA, we put you in a camp. | ||
| What about the pro wrestler? | ||
| We put you in a tent camp in Arizona. | ||
| Y 'all have to live there. | ||
| And we're just going to make sure that the temperature is always 150 degrees. | ||
| I'm not going to respond to this just because I know you're joking, but I don't want to play this game. | ||
| Am I joking? | ||
| I don't know anymore. | ||
| Me neither. | ||
| No one is joking. | ||
| Me neither. | ||
| Fake laugh. | ||
| Fake laugh followed by real laugh? | ||
| That's a weird twist. | ||
| Speaking of weird twists, and a twist that is not weird at all. | ||
| This next clip? | ||
| Wait, no, no, no, no. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| I can't do that. | ||
| That's a cheap... | ||
| You ruined your own transition there. | ||
| Did I or did I zigzag? | ||
| All right. | ||
| One of the two. | ||
| I'm going to zog. | ||
| So speaking of zogs, this next clip... | ||
| All right, there it is. | ||
| We found the transition right there. | ||
| At a certain point, this just becomes a verbal tick. | ||
| That's all it is. | ||
| So, this next clip, Alex Jones talks about someone that he really admires. | ||
| And then our government's trying to act like they're actually fighting ISIS, but Putin's gone in. | ||
| I mean, I tell you, I don't romanticize Putin, but he is really putting a major crimp in the New World Order. | ||
| So, he's talking about how our government funds ISIS and Russia are the only ones who are really taking care of business. | ||
| And he tries to put on this pained expression of, like, I don't want to romanticize this. | ||
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I'm not. | |
| Look, it pains me to say that Putin is better than us. | ||
| I'm just saying he's a beautiful-looking man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And whatever kind of caveats he wants to make to it, it's clear he has a profoundly pro-Russia, pro-Putin perspective. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I have, like, okay. | ||
| So they all hate the world government, yada, yada, yada. | ||
| Hate the UN, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Globalists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So if we do switch to Alex and, fuck it, why not Putin? | ||
| Let's just throw that in there. | ||
| He just hates the real globalists, I guess. | ||
| The UN or whatever it is. | ||
| He hates those who would stop his expansion. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| He wants the old Soviet Union back. | ||
| And apparently, Alaska. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, eh. | ||
| Take it. | ||
| No, we got a lot of oil in there! | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| We got to make sure that we have all of that oil. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because, you know. | ||
| Mad Max is coming around the corner. | ||
| If this kind of rampant nationalism does take hold, and there is no negotiating bodies between these countries, there is no United Nations or anything like that, do we still trade? | ||
| Do we get news from these other places? | ||
| Or is it just wall everything off and shut it down? | ||
| Like, it's because of the EU. | ||
| It's because of the UN. | ||
| It can't be wall everything and shut it down. | ||
| It will be strong countries exploiting poor countries to a greater extent than we even do now. | ||
| It would be bedlam for most countries that don't have something to offer. | ||
| That's the thing that they don't really ever discuss in terms of, like, hey, you know, we all gotta live on this world. | ||
| It's not like... | ||
| I know that borders mean something in terms of, like, here's America, here's Canada, what have you. | ||
| But at the end of the day, they are illusions. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not really real. | ||
| We all are on this orb that we're living on, and we can't all survive unless we work together. | ||
| And that recognition is why there are those bodies. | ||
| This is the fucking thing that drives me crazy. | ||
| It's the same thing with the Central Bank and the Federal Reserve. | ||
| If you really look at the history of our economy, everything has been much better since the Federal Reserve. | ||
| Maritime law, Dan! | ||
| Alright. | ||
| That will come back up. | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| I think not this episode. | ||
| No, you're... | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| So everyone is super mad at the Federal Reserve. | ||
| And they're not great. | ||
| They have done a lot of really shady things, and it is still a profit business that they're in. | ||
| And they should be regulated far more closely than they are, and we should expect more out of it. | ||
| But if you look back, we were way worse without them. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| And the UN is not perfect. | ||
| We can go back countless examples of atrocities that have gone on on their watch. | ||
| Like Agenda 21. I would have gone with Rwanda. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I would have gone with any number of times. | ||
| Tomato, tomato. | ||
| Any number of times that the international community had a responsibility to stop something from happening and failed for whatever reason. | ||
| That said, there are a number that would have happened that didn't happen because those bodies existed. | ||
| And I just don't understand. | ||
| I understand paranoia. | ||
| I understand fear. | ||
| I do get those things. | ||
| But I don't understand complete denial of the positives. | ||
| That part really does not make sense to me. | ||
| But they don't want... | ||
| They don't have any interest in that second part, right? | ||
| The positives? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they want genocides happening on localized levels. | ||
| No, what they're saying... | ||
| They want you to be able to print your own currency. | ||
| They want completely fluctuating stock markets to the point where everything is fucked all the time. | ||
| See, no, they don't want that. | ||
| But it's the entirety of the GOP. | ||
| It's the way that their brains work, is let's tear all of this stuff down because it's not working the way we want it to. | ||
| And then they don't do that thing of like, okay, well then what do we build after that? | ||
| They have no idea. | ||
| Like, it's always like, hey, we need to cut taxes as much as we can. | ||
| And then they never say, okay, well, since we don't have any money for the federal government, what is it that we keep and what is it that we get rid of? | ||
| And they're like, no, no, no, if you cut taxes, the government has more money. | ||
| And you're like, well, we've proved that's not true because of Reagan. | ||
| Well, no, no, no, we'll do it right this time. | ||
| And there's never any sense of what are we building that is going to be better. | ||
| They have no interest in that because the people who are always, always behind all of this shit are the ones who are going to profit the most if you tear down these protections. | ||
| And privatize everything. | ||
| And that's fucking billionaires. | ||
| They've hoodwinked the dumbest, weakest, most idiotic members of our population by telling them that... | ||
| Look at all of these things that aren't helping you as much as you want them to. | ||
| Or convincing you that they're not helping you at all. | ||
| And they've convinced Alex Jones that there are shadowy globalists. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| That he has convinced millions of people to fight against as opposed to the real problem. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| That's a fascinating thing that maybe we should explore another time. | ||
| It's a brilliant psychological twist. | ||
| They have pulled off a war against the poor. | ||
| By making the poor think that they're... | ||
| On the right side. | ||
| Like, it's amazing. | ||
| I hate to keep bringing up Sam Seder, but he had a really good point about Alex Jones. | ||
| That was... | ||
| He can go fuck himself? | ||
| Well, that too, but... | ||
| What does he think about John Rapoport? | ||
| Ah, fuck him. | ||
| Guys, thank you for listening. | ||
| You can check us out at No. | ||
| If you do that bit, we have to end the show. | ||
| That's not a hard rule. | ||
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That's not a hard rule. | |
| We'll be back on part two. | ||
| Besides, I was putting the words into Sam Seder's mouth. | ||
| If he does that bit, we end the show. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| Michael Brooks does it. | ||
| We keep going. | ||
| We keep going forever. | ||
| David Brooks does it, we get to kick him in the shins. | ||
| David Knight does it, we fall asleep. | ||
| So Sam had a good point about Alex Jones that is... | ||
| Knight Rider does it? | ||
| Okay, anyways. | ||
| Oh, John Cena might become Knight Rider in the movies. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| It's in the gossip rag. | ||
| Anyways, yeah. | ||
| His point was that if you were some of these super rich people who have vested interests in keeping people poor and privatizing things and all that, what you would want is to create someone like Alex Jones to distract everybody. | ||
| If Alex Jones didn't exist, the best thing possible would be to create an Alex Jones. | ||
| And I don't actually think that that's the case, that someone created him as controlled opposition or anything like that. | ||
| But it is interesting to think that accidentally he is serving the greatest purpose towards us not progressing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's fascinating. | ||
| He is doing everything possible to make sure that all the stuff he says he wants never comes about. | ||
| And everything he's afraid of happens. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's one of those things where it's a self-fulfilling prophecy in this regard especially. | ||
| Or a self-negating prophecy. | ||
| Yeah, except he's the one who's making sure that all the stuff doesn't happen. | ||
| But it's because the billionaires can pay so many people to do this shit. | ||
| They don't even need... | ||
| They have the Heritage Foundation. | ||
| They have all these think tanks. | ||
| They have billionaires in all the different countries who... | ||
| You know what might work for us? | ||
| If we stop calling them billionaires and start calling them oligarchs, maybe we start putting a different label on it and we start to be like, ooh, I don't like that word. | ||
| It doesn't really help Russia right now, does it? | ||
| No, but it did for a little. | ||
| No, it didn't really. | ||
| But the idea of billionaire is aspirational. | ||
| Oligarch is kind of like a gross term. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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I think we should call them what they are. | |
| Carpetbaggers? | ||
| Globalists. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Nobody likes a globalist. | ||
| We've got to stop going off on so many tangents and get through this because we've got a lot of meat. | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| Next day. | ||
| Is October 14th. | ||
| Tito's got good to me. | ||
| See, now you wish you brought more. | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| I'm still hungover. | ||
| Can't work through it? | ||
| You want a beer? | ||
| Yes, please. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| You're going to work through this thing. | ||
| You've got to drink your way to the other side. | ||
| On October 13th, Paul Joseph Watson hosts the show, so I didn't watch it. | ||
| Don't care. | ||
| Can't stand him. | ||
| We move on to October 14th. | ||
| And clearly Paul Joseph Watson has gone back to London because Alex Jones starts the show by lying about him. | ||
| If Paul Watson wants to go out and demonstrate against radical Islam, he will be arrested at the train station when he gets off. | ||
| Every day in the news, they arrest writers and journalists and anyone who criticizes radical Islam. | ||
| Remember five years ago they banned Michael Savage going to England? | ||
| Because he criticized radical Islam? | ||
| Stop saying that. | ||
| Well, that's just Michael Savage. | ||
| No, it's not just Michael Savage. | ||
| It's going to end up being everybody. | ||
| This is totalitarianism. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| Michael Savage was banned from entering the United Kingdom because they believed that his speech was hate speech, and it is. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| Because it's not criticizing radical Islam. | ||
| He talked, like... | ||
| Legitimately, I've watched a bunch of Dr. Savage, and so much of the stuff he says is so aggressively awful. | ||
| It is conflating Islam with terrorism to an nth degree. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I've brought this up on the show, but it's the worst example of him I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| When he had a television show, he had a gay activist on the show, and he told him, I hope you get AIDS and die. | ||
| Legitimately, he is that kind of an awful person. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And he does incite people a bit. | ||
| And so the idea that the UK would be like, you can't, and we're not letting you in. | ||
| Totally cool. | ||
| Also, the idea that you can't criticize Islam without being arrested. | ||
| Alex, you're living proof that that's not true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You do it all the time and you're fine. | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson does it all the time. | ||
| He's in London. | ||
| He's fine. | ||
| So your whole, like, either in America or in England... | ||
| It's totalitarianism. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| You guys are... | ||
| It's selective totalitarianism. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's very specific totalitarianism. | ||
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Right. | |
| And then his argument that, like, if he went out and protested it, he'd get arrested. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Like, I don't think that's true, but I also don't trust Paul Joseph Watson to have a reasonable protest against Islam. | ||
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No. | |
| I imagine it would turn into a bigot fest. | ||
| Who would have guessed? | ||
| Whether he wanted it to or not. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, I don't think that he, or the fan base that they have, has the restraint to not turn it into a, let's burn down that mosque, kind of thing. | ||
| And so, I mean... | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| When you and your existence is proof that your argument is wrong, what do you do? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| Make the argument anyway, Stan. | ||
| Clearly. | ||
| And yell a bunch. | ||
| Yeah, what are you talking about? | ||
| These people don't fucking care about hypocrisy. | ||
| You create a fake enemy, the globalists, who are constantly about to take you down. | ||
| That's what you do. | ||
| I think we just cracked the nut. | ||
| Alright, that's been Knowledge Fight, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| No, we got 20 more clips. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| Alright, I'm going to be real quiet for the next 45 minutes. | ||
| No, you won't. | ||
| 20's a little high. | ||
| But we do have a lot of clips, because I teased earlier in this episode that we may or may not make progress, and we're about to get to the point where... | ||
| Which would suggest that we would make progress, because whenever we weren't making progress, you didn't tease anything at all. | ||
| Smart. | ||
| So we're about to get to something that is, I think, transformative and might be a very major piece of Alex Jones transforming into a Trump propagandist and, by the by, losing his mind. | ||
| He got hit by a larger piece of concrete. | ||
| Because the middle did. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| I was trying to think of another person who's on Silicon Valley, and I'm ashamed. | ||
| I shouldn't have thrown out Tobolowsky so early. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| You should have kept that one in your back pocket. | ||
| That would have been a great callback. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex Jones is going to get into a narrative that I sincerely think is a push narrative. | ||
| Like, this is a big one for him. | ||
| And he's lying about everything. | ||
| Let me get to the story that was so incredible yesterday. | ||
| That I spent well over an hour researching, and I couldn't believe it when I saw the Fox News headline. | ||
| Buckley texted it to me. | ||
| Confederate flag supporters indicted under Georgia terrorism law. | ||
| Now, if you've grown up anywhere in the South or in East Texas, on different Confederate holidays, people get in their big four-wheel drive trucks, they drive around with rebel flags and American flags. | ||
| They do it at the beach. | ||
| If you're in Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, I mean, this is just what you grow up around. | ||
| I have a complex historical view of it. | ||
| It's very, very sad when I see it. | ||
| No, you're not. | ||
| Because I really know what it represents. | ||
| It represents the South being completely shut up and being fools. | ||
| And I'm going to get to that here in just a minute. | ||
| But separate from that, it is their free speech. | ||
| And the Confederate battle flag was in slavery. | ||
| Other than the fact that some bad people have expropriated it. | ||
| But if you're able to ban the Confederate flag, you're able to ban everything. | ||
| And we'll be right where Germany is, where they take your children if you criticize the government. | ||
| Socialism, global warming, that's in the news today. | ||
| They now arrest you in Germany for it. | ||
| They're trying to make it EU-wide. | ||
| The UN wants it worldwide. | ||
| That's mainstream news today. | ||
| Illegal. | ||
| I'm going to pause that for a second, because there's another narrative that Alex has been spinning for the last week and a half on the show or so, and I've just sort of tossed it by the wayside. | ||
| He thinks that Germany has reactivated the Stasi in order to get you to never talk bad about immigrants. | ||
| Well, Germany does have one of the strongest anti-hate speech lines. | ||
| That's one of the reasons why I neglected the narrative, because... | ||
| There is truth to what he's saying, but not what he's saying. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And they have used it against both sides, so to speak. | ||
| I'm not sure if on the show or just privately about how if you express Nazi ideology, you get arrested there. | ||
| And there is that sort of... | ||
| It doesn't... | ||
| Don't jibe with our idea of free speech, but definitely make sense based on the history of the country. | ||
| I mean, if you committed a genocide, maybe the national law of, hey, let's not do that anymore. | ||
| Don't ever associate with that fucking group. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| It's not terrible. | ||
| But then it's also used, like, it is one of those things where, in the same way that it can be used against people we don't like, It can be used against people we do like. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, there is... | ||
| The First Amendment is super important. | ||
| It's super important that the government can't make a law restricting your ability to say what you want to say. | ||
| And can't shut down distasteful speech. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, I think they should have made it more specific. | ||
| Like, you can say... | ||
| Like, here's a law that I would pitch. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| Hear me out. | ||
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| In Congress... | ||
| You can absolutely express your right to say whatever it is that you need, and the law will not punish you. | ||
| However, it is also legal to punch a Nazi in the face however many times you want to. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| See, there we go. | ||
| That's a good law. | ||
| Skirts around free speech. | ||
| Yeah, I don't disagree with that. | ||
| But the point is, there are these elements of German society that are... | ||
| Outside of our idea of free speech. | ||
| But they're not reactivating the Stasi. | ||
| That's absurd. | ||
| You usually get fined. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex is going on a bunch of tangents about how people are getting their kids taken away. | ||
| If you look into it, it's like, well, there's other issues. | ||
| That wasn't because they said immigrants are bad. | ||
| It was because they were unfit parents. | ||
| It's the same thing with that narrative he spun about how if your kid's playing basketball past five, the state takes them away. | ||
| It's just nonsense. | ||
| But anyway, the narrative that he kicked into about Confederate flag people being indicted is going to come back in a second. | ||
| But before you do that, let's listen to the rest of this Civil War revisionism. | ||
| That the carbon tax and global warming and all this is a fraud. | ||
| Of course climate change is happening. | ||
| It's always happening. | ||
| This is the precipice we've reached. | ||
| And in Georgia, during the whole Confederate flag fight, where they put the guilt of ten poor black people killed by a mentally ill white supremacist onto anyone that supported Southern heritage or anything else, Robert E. Lee, who was an amazing individual, according to the Northern historians. | ||
| Didn't own slaves. | ||
| Ulysses S. Grant did, the Northern general. | ||
| It's just all bull. | ||
| Was the North wrong? | ||
| From a Southern perspective, yes. | ||
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But both sides were fools. | |
| No. | ||
| And I'm going to break that down because people need to know the full story and not have identity politics of you're a Yankee or you're a Southerner. | ||
| You need to understand the real paradigm and to understand that we can go back to... | ||
| Slavery. | ||
| President Andrew Jackson 30 years before the Civil War. | ||
| Slavery. | ||
| And it almost happened before. | ||
| Was it about slavery? | ||
| His protege, Sam Houston, who tried to stop the Civil War and was removed and was spit on and had things thrown at him in Texas because he said, you're being set up by British intelligence. | ||
| Of course, he was right. | ||
| But that's a separate history lesson. | ||
| When we come back, imagine four or five trucks driving around with rebel flags on them. | ||
| Black folks are all angry. | ||
| The media told them it's a symbol of killing black people. | ||
| They throw some bottles. | ||
| The police come. | ||
| No one's arrested. | ||
| And then the state indicts the people for the rebel flags. | ||
| Saying that it was an act of terror. | ||
| That's saying free speech is an act of terror. | ||
| Didn't you just say that they threw some bottles? | ||
| No, he's saying that the black people threw bottles. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So he's mad because that means the black people are being racist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they're committing the act of terrorism as opposed to these guys who are just waving the rebel flag, Dan. | ||
| I am sure that you have looked into this and you agree 100% with Alex Jones that is restricting free speech. | ||
| Totally. | ||
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Hit me. | |
| I can't. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| About everything. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| Because this narrative is going to be a little bit bigger, I just want to dispense with one thing. | ||
| I did some research into Robert E. Lee, and he's a really complicated figure in history, but he absolutely did have slaves. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| And he was not a good dude. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| But one of the things is he was accused of having slaves, and he did. | ||
| And his argument was that he had gotten these slaves when his dad died. | ||
| And in the will, it said, free them five years after I die. | ||
| And so that was his argument, was I'm going to free them five years after my dad dies, as his will wished. | ||
| Unfortunately, the Civil War broke out three years later. | ||
| So who knows if he would have freed them? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| If it were me, I'd have been like, Dad's dead. | ||
| I don't give a shit about his wishes. | ||
| If I were actually against slavery, like, okay. | ||
| Guys, just don't tell my dad if you die. | ||
| Like, just don't tell. | ||
| Don't tell my dad. | ||
| You'll be in a different place. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Just don't. | ||
| Hey, my dad owns slaves. | ||
| You're not gonna be seeing them anywhere! | ||
| Guys, don't snitch. | ||
| Just on the off chance. | ||
| Don't snitch. | ||
| But the other thing is, he seemed to, in a lot of letters, have a negative opinion of slavery, but did not advance that position publicly, and didn't work against it at all, which... | ||
| To my eyes means he wasn't really against it. | ||
| Also, he fought for the South during a war about whether or not we should keep slavery. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that kind of suggests that he was probably pro-slavery. | ||
| I just want to give some validity to the argument that Robert E. Lee is more complicated a figure than the black and white version of awful and great. | ||
| He's probably more in the middle towards awful. | ||
| But not as bad. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Look, I'm not trying to be a centrist on this, too. | ||
| He wasn't Stonewall. | ||
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No. | |
| Let's put it that way. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| So now, to the point about this, people flying the rebel flag and getting terrorism charges. | ||
| God, they should. | ||
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Ah, boy. | |
| They did so much more. | ||
| Who would have guessed? | ||
| They did so much worse shit. | ||
| And Alex pretends that he did an hour of research, and that means that he knows everything I'm about to tell you, and is pretending all that stuff didn't happen. | ||
| Do I want to hear what you're about to tell me? | ||
| We've actually talked about this in passing on a past episode. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because this incident happened on July 27th of 2015. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Party crashers waving Confederate flags disrupted a black child's birthday celebration. | ||
| Oh, for fuck's sakes! | ||
| Yep, in Georgia. | ||
| What? | ||
| Shouting racial slurs and death threats, partygoers said. | ||
| The intruders cruised through in pickup trucks, taunting their targets' cell phone videos showed. | ||
| A second video captured the uninvited guests shouting the N-word from grassy fields during Saturday's confrontation. | ||
| Quote, it's a child's birthday party, an angry witness called out to them. | ||
| Partygoers claimed the hecklers brandished guns, tire irons, and knives as they threatened to, quote, kill all the ends. | ||
| So that's the story from New York Daily News. | ||
| Well, it's just the rabble flag. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| The media is the one who's telling you that it's a symbol of racism. | ||
| That's from the New York Daily News. | ||
| This is from the Washington Post on October 12, 2015. | ||
| At the time, partygoers said the caravan of trucks drove into the neighborhood, parked in an empty field near the home, and began making threats and yelling racial slurs. | ||
| Quote, one had a gun saying he was going to kill the ends, party host Melissa Ashford told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. | ||
| Quote, then one of them said, give me the gun, I'll shoot them ends. | ||
| Okay, so just as a barometer for how we're doing, I have moved my position on white genocide from a soft no to a maybe? | ||
| Meh. | ||
| Not a bad idea. | ||
| Maybe not the best idea, but it's in the running now. | ||
| So that's from October 12th, which is right around the time, like a day or two before where we're at now. | ||
| Now, if we flash forward to 2017, the case ended. | ||
| In February of 2017, the case was finalized, and you'll be thrilled to know that the people who got charged cried in court and went to prison for years. | ||
| They got a hard charge for terrorism. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Because they acted as a street gang. | ||
| That's what... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so here's from an article, again, in the New York Daily News. | ||
| From February 27, 2017. | ||
| Again, white people in America are the single worst group of terrorists. | ||
| Video footage from the party, little more than a month after Dylann Roof's Charleston church massacre, shows a parade of trucks roaring by with Confederate battle flags. | ||
| One person is heard shouting the N-word, while witnesses said that another had a gun and said he was going to kill the N's. | ||
| Prosecutors have said that the cases against Torres, Norton, and other defendants are not based on their right to fly the Confederate flag, but on threats against the victims. | ||
| Quote, this is behavior that even supporters of the Confederate battle flag can agree is criminal and shouldn't be allowed. | ||
| Douglas County District Attorney Brian Fortner said in a statement. | ||
| Apparently, he was wrong. | ||
| Well, you expect decency out of people. | ||
| You would. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So that's not what, like, Alex's version of what's going on is not what's going on. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Shocking. | ||
| Man. | ||
| The tweet that Obama sent out, the most liked tweet in the history of the world. | ||
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Oh boy. | |
| The one in which it's him with a picture. | ||
| And he says, hate is not something that you're born with. | ||
| It's something you're taught. | ||
| It is almost one of those things where it's like, maybe we should take your kids away. | ||
| Maybe we should take them. | ||
| And I don't mean that kind of a thing. | ||
| Maybe it is a bigger issue that the family is what it is. | ||
| It might be a better idea if it was more community-driven and less... | ||
| You're raised by whatever random-ass people you came out of. | ||
| It may not be a bad idea. | ||
| We talk about the idea of becoming a Type 1 civilization, getting off-planet and stuff like that. | ||
| That's the conception of what progress is in the grander scheme. | ||
| If you look back in the history of... | ||
| Humanoids, I guess. | ||
| Human-like beings, if you go back to Neanderthal times and even beyond that, just human civilizations, homo sapiens sapiens. | ||
| You see different patterns of culture. | ||
| You see matrilineal, matriarchal societies where the mom is the... | ||
| Everybody's much, much happier and everybody gets laid a lot more. | ||
| Or you see avuncular civilizations where the uncles raised... | ||
| And just because that is in the past doesn't mean necessarily that those ideas can't possibly be the future. | ||
| Like, as we drift towards massive shifts in how we live, like the idea of going off planet... | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Like, we would have to change everything to accommodate that. | ||
| The idea of staying on planet is crazy at this point. | ||
| Everything's crazy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But also the idea that society has to stay the way it is in terms of discrete family units and in terms of, like... | ||
| I mean, we've even, in the last 50 years, chipped away a little bit, I think, at the idea that man runs everything in household. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, there are changes that are happening. | ||
| It's entirely possible that we do end up getting to, maybe not necessarily uncles, but an avuncular type of pattern. | ||
| And it really does make the most sense when you consider, yes, it is important to all of us how children are raised. | ||
| We're seeing the results of, you know, what it's like whenever these horrible fucking bigots get raised by horrible fucking bigots who are raised by horrible fucking bigots who go on and on and on back. | ||
| To people who owned people. | ||
| It's super weird that strangers' children really do affect your life, but they fucking do. | ||
| So anytime somebody says, don't judge other people for how they raise their kids, no, fucking do it. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| If somebody is raising their kids bad, yell at them. | ||
| Please. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| But do it to... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Do it in an avuncular way. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So these next two clips I'm just going to play. | ||
| They're Alex Jones saying really terrible things about this battle flag situation. | ||
| Just put the mic down. | ||
| Let's play these without commentary to get through them. | ||
| Because it's just going to turn into screaming. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| South Padre, and there's all these cars and trucks driving back and forth. | ||
| And then every tenth car would have a Confederate flag. | ||
| And, you know, they were, on a lot of times, looking for trouble. | ||
| I mean, you'd be at your bonfire or whatever, and they'd go, what are you bleepers doing? | ||
| And if you said, well, get out of that car, I'll stomp your head in the ground, then they'd go, no, no, we got beer, let's party! | ||
| I mean, that's not what all these people are like, but the average southerner is not driving around doing that. | ||
| So I've personally experienced stuff like this, but is it terrorism? | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| And I'm giving these black folks a benefit of the doubt, and saying maybe something happened to them. | ||
| Because the media was invoking anybody that's got a Confederate flag wants to murder black people. | ||
| And you've got black folks climbing in backyards, front yards, pulling down flags. | ||
| I mean, you've got the illegal aliens pulling down American flags at post offices now. | ||
| You've got American flags banned all over the place in schools. | ||
| Well, there we go. | ||
| We get back to that narrative, the Ninth Circuit Court narrative. | ||
| So that's offensive, but this next one's probably worse. | ||
| And now, 160 years later... | ||
| After the Civil War. | ||
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| 155 years later, they will arrest you and charge you for terrorism if you fly the Confederate flag and people's feelings get hurt. | ||
| So you can see where political correctness goes. | ||
| They wind up all the so-called minorities to see racism and hate everywhere. | ||
| When they get upset, you get arrested. | ||
| And when that precedent is set, it's going to be everybody. | ||
| So in that clip, he's blaming the people who had racial slurs thrown at them when they were having a children's party. | ||
| Dudes with guns, pipes, and knives rolling through with standardly racist flags. | ||
| They were just upset. | ||
| They were just triggered. | ||
| Shouldn't have been such a dumb... | ||
| That's the problem with safe spaces, Dan. | ||
| Stupid snowflakes. | ||
| You know, you think about those birthday parties. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And you're like, buh. | ||
| Snowflakes. | ||
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All of them. | |
| You know what the problem with children's birthday parties is? | ||
| So afraid of truth. | ||
| I know. | ||
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I go to children's parties all the time, right? | |
| And I go in there and no one wants to debate. | ||
| Like, what's going on, you fucking cowards? | ||
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Ugh. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| It is an interesting thing. | ||
| That's an interesting way for you to start this sentence. | ||
| No, I'm just thinking like... | ||
| Are we still at war with the Confederacy? | ||
| I think some of them think that. | ||
| Much like people who got stranded inland in Vietnam or Korea who thought the war was going on 30 years after. | ||
| Yeah, the Japanese guy who thought the war was still happening until 1994 or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, you hear stories like that every now and again. | ||
| I think some of those ding-dongs are in that same headspace, in that same mentality. | ||
| Are we still at war with the Nazis? | ||
| There's a certain part of me that's like, It is. | ||
| It is an issue. | ||
| Anytime you fly the Confederate flag, it is a problem. | ||
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Well... | |
| It is a symbol of owning people. | ||
| That's what the Confederate flag is, full stop. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| But this comes down to what we were talking about earlier with the downsides of complete free speech. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because in countries like Germany, where they can shut shit down real hard, once the Civil War is over, we probably shouldn't have been as generous. | ||
| And be like, oh, yeah, keep on, you know, celebrate or whatever. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| You know, there should have been a stamping out of like, no, you need to be punished for your sins. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And same with the Nazis. | ||
| Like, we accept free speech to such a degree that we're like... | ||
| I mean, neo-Nazis have been around since World War II. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| In some fashion. | ||
| Maybe they weren't called neo-Nazis back then. | ||
| Well, the 80s were rough with neo-Nazis. | ||
| There were a lot of them around. | ||
| Yeah, and we're just like, well, hate what he says. | ||
| I'll defend to the death his right to say it. | ||
| We go Voltaire on their ass. | ||
| And at the end of the day, that leads to them... | ||
| Building up. | ||
| I don't think there's a good answer. | ||
| If you go the other way, though, you get World War I and the Treaty of Versailles, and you just destroy a people until they want to start another fucking war. | ||
| That is entirely possible. | ||
| It has to be defeated with some sort of positive thing, and I just can't see any positive thing whenever you're talking about people who want you dead. | ||
| When you're talking to Alex Jones, he is describing leftists as people who are pedophiles, who hate you, who want to kill your kids. | ||
| How do you combat that with positivity? | ||
| It's an insane idea that we're... | ||
| Well, I mean, we're making laughs out of it. | ||
| That's positive. | ||
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And explaining truth. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I love to take every opportunity to say that we're doing great. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You just held up your Fitbit, too, so there we go. | ||
| I've already got my steps for the day. | ||
| I'm doing great. | ||
| So this next clip, Alex Jones talks about how Obama is mentally ill. | ||
| But he also says something that I think is really, really huge to our investigation. | ||
| This is exactly like there's a Trump tweet for every occasion. | ||
| Like, every time we go back to 2015 and he describes Obama, all the stuff that he hates about Obama, it's like, no, you're just describing Trump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Obama was none of that shit. | ||
| The guy that you are talking about is the president now, and you fucking love him. | ||
| Yeah, because he's not black. | ||
| Because he's not black. | ||
| But more important, Part about Obama being mentally ill is just like, I mean, that's window dressing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Something else that comes up in this clip I think is profoundly important. | ||
| This is a big deal. | ||
| And Obama is mentally ill. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Dr. Pachenik is a Harvard psychiatrist, MIT scientist, one of the fathers of modern psych warfare at the Pentagon. | ||
| He's the one to come on and get him on, but he says Obama's mentally ill. | ||
| So, Dr. Pachenik is about to show up. | ||
| Is this our first? | ||
| I think he's been on the show years in the past. | ||
| But he has not been on in this entire run that we've been doing. | ||
| And I checked, like, 2014. | ||
| I didn't see appearances from him. | ||
| But I think he had been on before. | ||
| I don't think it's like... | ||
| It's not the first time they've ever spoken to Pachenik. | ||
| But he has not been around, and the counter-coup narrative has not come up. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Steve Pachenik is about to show up on the Alex Jones show. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because whenever Alex says, I'm going to get them on. | ||
| Generally, they show up within a few days. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So we can expect that. | ||
| The bigger piece I want to take away from this is that if you're dumb, like Alex Jones... | ||
| Or me. | ||
| Nah, you're a little smarter than Alex Jones. | ||
| But even still, you and I, I'd lump us in with this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If there is someone who is an expert in psych warfare, don't make them a regular guest on your show. | ||
| Because you... | ||
| That's such a good point. | ||
| You're not smart enough to know if they're committing psych warfare. | ||
| Yeah, who's doing it to who? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I didn't consider that. | ||
| This guy who's a part of psychological warfare could be using you for his gain. | ||
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Nah. | |
| He could be using you to further his agenda. | ||
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Nah. | |
| And like I've said many times, my theory is that everyone is lying to Alex. | ||
| Whether it be Russian media, Roger Stone, Steve Pachanek, all of his guests and influences are basically tricking him into this box that he's put himself in that ended up being a very large part of why we have Trump as a president. | ||
| So, I see that, and his recognition and admission... | ||
| That's such a hilarious thought. | ||
| Like, oh, I've got a great get. | ||
| The guy who invented psych warfare is going to tell us about psych warfare and he's like, wait, why would he do that? | ||
| He's the guy who invented psych warfare. | ||
| Wouldn't he always be doing psych warfare? | ||
| Is this dude ever not warfaring psychically? | ||
| Our next guest is a known con artist. | ||
| He's going to tell us all about... | ||
| He's going to be straight up with us. | ||
| Our next guest is a malevolent wizard. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Great. | ||
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Don't do it! | |
| Don't have that person on the show! | ||
| It drives me crazy. | ||
| And the fact that he recognizes and gives him that as part of his credits means that he knows he's not guarding himself nearly well enough. | ||
| You know how we've talked about this months and months back. | ||
| A lot of the time, Steve Pchenik does seem very rational to me. | ||
| In the sense that whenever he's talking about... | ||
| Trump cannot allow Gorsuch to be on the Supreme Court. | ||
| He's a neocon. | ||
| The guy's making a decent point. | ||
| But then you have to remember that he also doesn't believe that Sandy Hook was real. | ||
| He has a hundred other really terrible things in his resume. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But what does he believe? | ||
| Believe in psych warfare. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And believes, on our last episode, he believes that Alex Jones is great at riffing, which is evidence that he's a liar. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's definitely true. | ||
| That's psych warfare. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And Alex riffing is psych warfare. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Different sides of the same coin. | ||
| No, that is a great question, or a great point that you made, is that once you have that as his credit, Anything that he says in public, you cannot believe. | ||
| Well, you have to at least really fucking examine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the idea that Alex trusts him implicitly to the point where things that he says that have no evidence behind them are just taken as gospel. | ||
| That's real dangerous. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's a real fucked up headspace to be in. | ||
| It's dangerous to give anybody that kind of trust. | ||
| Well, especially when a psych warfare person is coming on your show and giving you stuff that feeds into your confirmation bias. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You really should analyze it. | ||
| And Alex never does. | ||
| He just is like, Steve, you're great. | ||
| You think I'm funny. | ||
| I've always wanted people to think I'm funny. | ||
| And I don't know why they never do. | ||
| Because I'm not. | ||
| That's self-reflective, Alex Jones. | ||
| That character does not exist. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex Jones says, I mean, this could have been an out-of-context drop. | ||
| I just think it's offensive. | ||
| Women will likely have to register for the draft. | ||
| Army Secretary says, hey, you like those new rights you got to be a slave? | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| You like those new rights you got to be a slave? | ||
| I think he's talking about women's lib. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I think that's what he's saying. | ||
| Oh, you like being treated like an adult? | ||
| Now you've got to take the draft. | ||
| There's a lot of women in the service. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, Alex. | ||
| That's kind of how it works. | ||
| I don't think that women would be offended by that. | ||
| But that's always... | ||
| I love that because that invalidates that argument that... | ||
| Chauvinists and assholes always make is like, oh, feminism, you don't want all the same rights, because then you'd have to do all of the same shit, and there's a lot of shit you don't want to do. | ||
| You know, that kind of thing. | ||
| It doesn't invalidate, it shows that Alex thinks that. | ||
| But the point being, if it does happen, though, all of a sudden he's like, well, see? | ||
| Now we're equal, and there's nothing there. | ||
| There's nothing other than just ignorant I don't know. | ||
| Hatred? | ||
| Or whatever? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ignorant condescension? | ||
| Like, what else would you describe it as? | ||
| That kind of sums up Alex Jones to a T. Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| So, Jordan, this next clip, we get back to a very familiar theme in 2015. | ||
| Alex Jones? | ||
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Russia. | |
| You got it. | ||
| The Russians have been working with us to take out the Taliban for at least eight years in... | ||
| Afghanistan. | ||
| Joe Biggs was supplied ammunition and supplies in the army by Russian hind helicopters. | ||
| The Russians have been doing this. | ||
| They are surrounded by radical Islamists. | ||
| There's more than eight countries that are on their underbelly with jihadis attacking people. | ||
| And the Russians want to take them out. | ||
| And they won't even meet with them. | ||
| They won't because it's their army. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Doesn't sound that incredible. | ||
| Well, it's the globalist army is these radical jihadists. | ||
| Sounds pretty credible. | ||
| You know what's not credible? | ||
| Anything Joe Biggs says. | ||
| Doesn't he work a desk for the National Guard or something like that? | ||
| Joe Biggs? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But that's not something that's come up on this show. | ||
| I don't know that to be true. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| If it is, I don't know. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He works a desk at Infowars, for sure. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And goes around the country with Jakari Jackson to non-existent photo ops. | ||
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Right. | |
| Where the president may or may not land somewhere. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| That was the last trip they took. | ||
| Look, I mean, there's historical and present inaccuracies in what he's saying. | ||
| And he's just doing things to conflate the idea that this proxy army of angry Muslims is one side and Russia is really the only people good on the other side. | ||
| And that's really deeply problematic. | ||
| Deeply. | ||
| He's got to be getting paid. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's got to be getting paid by these people. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| He has to be. | ||
| I mean, I'm not cherry-picking. | ||
| I am bringing up whenever he talks about Trump, and I'm bringing up most of the times he talks about Russia. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he never says anything negative about Russia. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, even if you are flattered by Russia... | ||
| But he wasn't at this point. | ||
| Dugan hadn't said any of the stuff he says about him later. | ||
| Like, he's the perfect model of an American and stuff like that. | ||
| That came in late 2016. | ||
| So at this point, he hadn't been. | ||
| He just sees himself in Russian state media. | ||
| He just sees familiarity in narratives, and he doesn't realize that it's because he's absorbing their narratives to some extent, and because their narratives are harshly conservative and oppressive. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And that secretly is where he's at, too. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| He's all about freedom, but at the end of the day, his philosophies are incredibly, incredibly oppressive. | ||
| Yeah, he's very against freedom. | ||
| He likes talking about it. | ||
| Yeah, loves it. | ||
| He would prefer that nobody but him had it. | ||
| He loves to fake cry, but where he really belongs is being the mouthpiece of an oppressive regime. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, I mean, I've started to wrestle with this as we've gone along. | ||
| Why did Alex Jones become Trump's propagandist? | ||
| And I've started to realize now, months into this, I mean, of course he did. | ||
| What else would Alex have done? | ||
| At first, because I hadn't listened to nearly as much of Alex Jones as I have now, I thought like, man, it's real crazy that this conspiracy theorist decided to just jump on this train. | ||
| But the more I think about it, the more it's like... | ||
| We all should have seen that coming a mile away. | ||
| I thought it was fucked up, but now it's like, yeah, of course. | ||
| Well, yeah, everybody has written him off as a conspiracy theorist for so long that nobody paid attention to his hard right oppression views. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, nobody really... | ||
| And harsh-coated bigotry and love of guns and... | ||
| Yeah, I don't like those being combined, and I really don't like that those are almost always combined. | ||
| Almost always. | ||
| Yeah, that's not great. | ||
| You know what, if we can say one great thing about Alex Jones? | ||
| It's that he's a student of history. | ||
| As we've already seen, he has a great grasp on the Civil War. | ||
| This next clip... | ||
| Not too good. | ||
| This next clip actually dovetails into the Trump investigation. | ||
| Like I said, I haven't cut out anything where he's talking about Trump up to this point. | ||
| This is the first time he comes up now, almost two hours into our episode. | ||
| He talks about Trump a little bit. | ||
| This is a forgotten piece of the campaign. | ||
| Apparently, some lady asked him a question with her hands on her hips. | ||
| And asked him a question about how bad he is about women. | ||
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| And Alex does not like this. | ||
| Oh, I think I remember that. | ||
| And it weaves into a story about himself and a very fucked up retelling of history that is not true. | ||
| But it's mostly about himself. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And then I think about Jeb Bush caught with a pro-life senator's aide with her hands on her hips, bugging her eyes out like, how dare you not like women? | ||
| just all in grandstanding to manipulate women, to make a national issue, to see that woman stand up to him. | ||
| All theater, all posing, meeting with behavioral psychologists, had to put her hands on her So I want to pause there really quick. | ||
| I don't think anyone needs to meet with anybody, psychologist or otherwise, to know how to put your hands on your hips. | ||
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Secondly... | |
| Or how to look at somebody with pure hatred. | ||
| When you hate them. | ||
| If you have pure hatred for them. | ||
| But let's also take this within the context of Alex Jones saying that the gun-free UT was run by Bloomberg and had CIA tactics and stuff like that. | ||
| He's making this up about this woman who asked Trump a question. | ||
| He's making that up and saying, this is all brainwashing. | ||
| That's all he does. | ||
| Every single time something like this happens, he just comes up with a concoction of, oh, yeah, of course. | ||
| Oh, this is brainwashed. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah. | |
| I'm a big fan of him judging other people for grandstanding. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's one where you're listening to that, you're like, dude, fucking dial that, leave that one alone. | ||
| She wasn't fake crying. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| But also, so he's making stuff up all the time, and this is obviously another made-up thing. | ||
| But then at the same time, we have to consider that he believes that psychic goblins are attacking him and what have you. | ||
| Literal psychic goblins. | ||
| Literal. | ||
| Literal psychic goblins. | ||
| So he also is imagining all this stuff. | ||
| He's projecting this idea of everyone's trying to brainwash you in the same way someone critiquing him is a literal goblin. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just this really fucked up... | ||
| Anyway, let's get through this clip. | ||
| And CNN goes, did your mother ever look at you like that, Trump? | ||
| This is how they stage stuff. | ||
| This is how dumb they think we are. | ||
| And whether Trump's a good guy or not, this is how they pull these scams. | ||
| It's like Michelle Malkin. | ||
| I'm not against Michelle Malkin. | ||
| I agree with her on most stuff. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| She said that I was a liar years ago and said it was a robot dog that Marines threw off a cliff. | ||
| I'm not against the Marines. | ||
| I'm against the defense of that type of behavior, killing a puppy for no reason. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I have no idea what it is that point was supposed to be. | ||
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And enjoying it. | |
| And she went out and wrote an article and said I was a liar. | ||
| Well, you are a liar. | ||
| Now, the Marines had even come out and said, we disciplined them, it was a real dog. | ||
| And then she had guys with her yelling, kill Michelle Malkin, leaning down behind me. | ||
| With cameras on me, yelling, kill Michelle Malkin. | ||
| And they ran a national hoax that day. | ||
| Hard copy, extra, NBC News, CBS News. | ||
| It was all over. | ||
| I want to pause here again just to say, fine. | ||
| Like, if Michelle Malkin did this PSYOP against you, whatever. | ||
| I don't apologize. | ||
| Sorry you had to go through that. | ||
| I don't support Michelle Malkin either. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| That's the right cannibalizing itself. | ||
| Sucks to have to go through that. | ||
| Doesn't relate. | ||
| Doesn't relate at all to what's going on. | ||
| I do love that, like, she called me a liar. | ||
| Now, I'm not against the Marines. | ||
| Wait, what was that? | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| I don't know what that story is about throwing a dog off a cliff. | ||
| There's a robot dog. | ||
| I can only fucking look into so many things. | ||
| You know, I only have enough energy to... | ||
| And this is like... | ||
| It's like Astro. | ||
| This to me is like, whatever. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| You are a liar. | ||
| You maybe weren't lying about this. | ||
| Again... | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Let's get to what he's super wrong about. | ||
| I got calls from national talk show hosts saying, Alex, it may be over for you saying kill a woman, beat up a little woman. | ||
| And we got our video. | ||
| Our video showed they were doing it. | ||
| Thank God we have a video from behind. | ||
| But this is the type of stuff they can pull. | ||
| I'm not saying that Dean was a good guy, but he was going to end up basically beating Hillary, beating Obama. | ||
| He was a popular guy. | ||
| And so they ran that hoax where they, you know, isolated the microphone that was a corduroy, not corduroy. | ||
| How do you pronounce it? | ||
| Cordis microphone? | ||
|
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Cardioid. | |
| Cardioid. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| I'm having a moment. | ||
| Cardioid, where it only picks up what singers use, you know, in a rock band or whatever, only picks up what's right in front of it, not the background. | ||
| It just sounds like he's screaming. | ||
| Everybody's howling. | ||
| And they go, oh, the scream. | ||
| And again, those type of stunts. | ||
| They tried to do that with Trump right there. | ||
| And when you've experienced them running a national stunt on you, it's not fun. | ||
| So his argument is that much like the Howard... | ||
| His argument is that the media be stunting on him. | ||
| Well, but just like the media took down Howard Dean with that scream thing, that's what they're doing to Trump with this lady with her hand on her hips. | ||
| And he argues that the reason they took down Dean is he was too famous, too popular. | ||
| He was going to destroy Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. | ||
| I'm starting to think. | ||
| I'm remembering back. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| No, this is interesting. | ||
| You might be more of a historian than Alex Jones. | ||
| I'm remembering back to Howard Dean. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I'm picturing him standing next to Obama and Hillary, and then I'm remembering that he was not running against either of them. | ||
| It was 2004. | ||
| It was 2004 when he was running against John Kerry, I believe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was just before the Iowa caucuses in 2004. | ||
| And I'll give you... | ||
| And he won. | ||
| He had a surprise win. | ||
| No, not in the Iowa caucuses. | ||
| No, that's right. | ||
| He came in third. | ||
| He came in third, but it was a surprise that he came in third. | ||
| Right, because of the scream. | ||
| Everyone thought he was unhinged. | ||
| And that was a right-wing smear tactic based on a technical difficulty with the mic. | ||
| It was not a setup by Obama and Clinton. | ||
| But let's go down the list of all of the people who are running for the Democratic nomination, just for fun, because I have the list up in front of me. | ||
| John Kerry, John Edwards, Howard Dean. | ||
|
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Obama. | |
| Dick Gephardt. | ||
| Hillary. | ||
| Dennis Kucinich. | ||
| Obama again. | ||
| Wesley Clark. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Hillary's evil twin. | ||
| Wesley Clark is the closest Alex Jones might say to a globalist. | ||
| I guess John Kerry. | ||
| Who's Wesley Clark? | ||
| He's a general. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Why would he... | ||
| Salt and pepper hair. | ||
| God, why would... | ||
| What a weird world. | ||
| Yeah, he had a lot of support for a hot minute, but it did not last very long. | ||
| He came out with that whole thing where there was plans to take over seven countries. | ||
| Howard Dean would have been a great choice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's another one of those situations where... | ||
| Boy, the guy the Democrats did put up was the worst possible guy at the time. | ||
| John Kerry? | ||
| John Kerry was a terrible presidential candidate. | ||
| I remember in 2004, my brother drove around a rehabbed beetle that he had fixed up himself. | ||
| And it was made of John Kerry? | ||
| No, the reason it came up was because he had a bumper sticker that he made himself on the back window, and it was Kerry 04 because even mediocrity is an improvement. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that sort of sums up... | ||
| That sums up Kerry. | ||
| I think... | ||
| That sums up the... | ||
| Democrats. | ||
| Especially then, yeah, and now. | ||
| Fucking now, yeah. | ||
| But I think, I sincerely think that John Kerry could have been a decent president and had a real decent chance of winning had it not been for the Swift Boats, which is Jerome Corsi and his ilk, who are involved with InfoWars and Larry Nichols. | ||
| Congratulations, Larry Nichols, for destroying 50 years of our country's at least 50 years. | ||
| Who knows how long it's going to extend to the fucking future. | ||
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Well, fuck. | |
| Imagine if the Supreme Court hadn't stolen the election for G-dubs. | ||
| Initially, yeah. | ||
| We wouldn't be in Afghanistan. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| I mean, who knows? | ||
| It's tough to rewrite history. | ||
| Well, that's true. | ||
| But it is hard to imagine that a Democratic president would get away with the biggest lie. | ||
| That you can possibly give, which was the war in Iraq. | ||
| The different country invasion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| The right is much better at... | ||
| I mean, they're wrong... | ||
| They get a pass because we all know they're dumb. | ||
| Well, the thing is, I think that the right is always wrong, but they're better at being a safeguard. | ||
| You know, like... | ||
| Democrats, when they're in power, can never really do too much because the right is so angry and so aggressive that they push back on everything. | ||
| So even good things get pushed back against, and bad things get pushed back against so hard. | ||
| And the Democrats don't really do a great job of doing that to conservative Republicans. | ||
| Well, we get called the alt-left. | ||
| Right. | ||
| When we fight against fascism, it's a bad thing. | ||
| Creeping socialism. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Creeping Sharia. | ||
|
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Ugh. | |
| So, this next clip... | ||
| Our whole system is broken. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| So, Alex Jones, towards the end of this episode, has a long bull session. | ||
| With noted chiropractor, Dr. Group. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He comes in to talk about how Super Male Vitality is going to be back in stock. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| I was running low. | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| 2015, there was a shortage. | ||
| It was like the 70s gas crisis. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Stagflation, but with super male vitality. | ||
|
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Yep, yep. | |
| So Alex Jones. | ||
| A different kind of stagflation, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Attaboy. | ||
| There he is. | ||
| So Alex Jones keeps doing this like, Dr. Group's going to be on, but this isn't about selling product. | ||
| I just want to cover the waterfront with him. | ||
| He uses that expression a lot, by the way. | ||
| I fucking love it. | ||
| I think we need to use it a lot more. | ||
| Cover the waterfront? | ||
| We're going to cover the waterfront. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But he's like, we're just going to talk about the issues. | ||
| It turns into, of course, a really long sales pitch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But in the middle of it, we get this. | ||
| Well, before we go to Simon, man, Dr. Group, what do you make of Russia hitting those ISIS targets and now already driving them out of many areas? | ||
| Why are you asking Dr. Group? | ||
| In your capacity as a chiropractor, how do you feel about global foreign policy? | ||
| This only happens for folks that don't know. | ||
| At the beginning of World War II, the Japanese stopped seeing their diplomatic counterparts two days before Pearl Harbor. | ||
| So it's unprecedented that diplomatic connections, even in the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1961-1962, were going on. | ||
| Diplomatic connections have now been severed. | ||
| Russia's been kicked out of the G8. | ||
| I don't think for, and not our audience is very smart, but for the general public, I don't think they realize, Dr. Grip, this is unprecedented. | ||
| But you just mentioned a precedent. | ||
| But be that as it may. | ||
| It's unprecedented, except for the times that it's happened in the past. | ||
| Except for the time that I just mentioned, seven seconds ago. | ||
| But be that as it may, you're right. | ||
| Why the fuck are you asking Dr. Group about that? | ||
| I cut it out because it's a long, meandering answer, but he's just like, I meditate all the time, but stress is high. | ||
| Everyone's got anxiety, and when everyone has anxiety, it's contagious. | ||
| And then Alex Jones ends up saying that World War III may be days away. | ||
| Oh, that's good. | ||
| Yeah, great. | ||
| Man, I'm glad he was wrong. | ||
| And also, good thing, most people turn it off by the time Dr. Group gets on. | ||
| I think even his dumbass fans get like, this is going to be boring. | ||
| I think. | ||
| Dr. Group, come on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Come on, Dr. Group. | ||
| Also, I was trying to take a screenshot of the picture of Dr. Group's Skype because the wall he's in front of is covered in diplomas. | ||
| Why? | ||
| He doesn't have any real diplomas. | ||
| I want to research all of them. | ||
| So I was going to take a screenshot and try and get like, what are the details of this one and this one? | ||
| But it was too blurry. | ||
| I couldn't even zoom in. | ||
| Yeah, you can just order them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can just order them online. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| So that brings us to the end of October 14th, and now we get into October 15th, and this is, I think, one of the most important days in our investigations history. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| This day is incredibly crazy. | ||
| I think, I put it in my notebook, I think this is the day that Alex Jones' brain broke. | ||
| I think that he lost it on October 15th, 2015. | ||
| I might be wrong. | ||
| I've made a lot of bad predictions. | ||
| I cop to that. | ||
| But the show starts, and this is going to frustrate the shit out of you. | ||
| And I love it. | ||
| It's going to frustrate the shit out of our audience. | ||
| But Alex Jones does one of the things he does best, which he professionally teases why he's mad. | ||
| He doesn't say at all in this next clip why he is fucking freaking out. | ||
| He is so good at saying nothing for a long time. | ||
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He is. | |
| It's amazing. | ||
| Watch this professional at fucking work. | ||
| Every few months, the past was every few years, but now it's every few months, a group of stories come together. | ||
| And with my knowledge and understanding of governmental systems worldwide, but particularly here in the United States. | ||
| Which is to say, none at all. | ||
| The tumblers basically click into place. | ||
| The safe door opens. | ||
| So I want to cut here just for a second. | ||
| Keep in mind, this clip is three and a half minutes long. | ||
| That can't be possible. | ||
| He says nothing. | ||
| That can't be real. | ||
| If you at any point while you're listening to this think you know what he's about to say, you're probably wrong. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, unless your guess is nothing. | ||
| So whenever we talk about Alex Jones being an amazing broadcaster, This is my only evidence of it. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Because at the end of this, he even talks about how he's not saying anything. | ||
| It's fucking amazing. | ||
| No, he can't do that. | ||
| It's fucking amazing. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So so far, we're 24 seconds in. | ||
| He's said nothing except... | ||
| Every few months. | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| It used to be every few years. | ||
| Right. | ||
| A group of stories comes out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I'm a genius. | ||
| Using my brilliance in, but especially America. | ||
| That's schizophrenia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So here we go. | ||
| Everything has become unlocked. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| And you can really see what's inside. | ||
| And a group of stories the last two weeks come together in a confluence. | ||
| Which ones? | ||
| That is so important. | ||
|
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Thank you. | |
| I am having trouble feeling even worthy to try to describe to you How absolutely confirming this is. | ||
| And it shakes me to my absolute core. | ||
| This guy's a fucking pro. | ||
| Got a lot of long pauses here. | ||
| In fact, this news is so important that when I saw it this morning before the show and it connected into everything else we already know. | ||
| About what? | ||
| I almost went to David Knight's office and said, please put on your sports jacket, grab all the news you're researching, you're doing the show. | ||
| So that I could get with Paul Watson, or myself at a word processor, and pull all these links together, put this together, write an article, put out an emergency alert. | ||
| And really make a big deal out of it. | ||
| Because if I just come up here at the start of the show and mention some of these stories and tell everybody it's really important and tell everybody please get this information out. | ||
| What information? | ||
| It won't go viral. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| It's so important! | ||
| If I say we've got a big announcement in a couple days and I build it up, which I don't do that. | ||
|
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You are! | |
| I always say coming up and I'll just tell you right then what the news is because I just want to get it out. | ||
| Then do that! | ||
|
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Thanks! | |
| So what I am here trying to do is make a big deal out of this and really get people who are lost in the haze of all the news, myself included. | ||
| I'm not on some high mountain here. | ||
| This guy's a fucking pro. | ||
| That we can really look at the situation we're in and really see. | ||
| That the worst case scenario analyses that we've come up with and many others have now come up with, concurrent breakdowns basically, is so horrible. | ||
| And it confirms our worst, our worst, not fears, our worst long-term projections. | ||
| Because we're not long-term projecting now, we're in 2015. | ||
| All of them? | ||
| Some of them? | ||
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Your projections about what? | |
| I am not. | ||
| Did you meet the devil? | ||
| Trying to be dramatic here. | ||
| This is dramatic. | ||
| Fucking fuck you! | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| Trying to... | ||
| Fuck off! | ||
| Fuck off! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| I'm not trying to be dramatic here. | ||
| That's so amazing. | ||
| It is dramatic. | ||
| That's fucking amazing, man. | ||
| That was nothing. | ||
| That's a gifted broadcaster to emote like that. | ||
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To be able to be so full of shit about nothing. | |
| He said nothing. | ||
| He said nothing. | ||
| He does for another, like, three minutes after that, but he does touch on specific topics after that, but it's not what he's talking about. | ||
| He starts talking about Agenda 21, but that's not the story that has got him all shook up. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I do know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So does he get to it? | ||
| Six minutes later. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So did he get with himself and get in front of a word processor? | ||
| I'm assuming no. | ||
| No, he was on the air the entire time. | ||
| Has he ever written an article? | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| I mean, I think he wrote a book, even. | ||
| Yeah, but did he? | ||
| Maybe PJ Dobb wrote that ghost writing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But be there as it may, he does get to the story that is like... | ||
| Really getting him out of sorts. | ||
| What has confirmed all of his long-term projections. | ||
| Would you like to try and guess? | ||
| The worst long-term projections. | ||
|
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Okay, it's October 15th, 2015. | |
| Correct. | ||
| Fast and Furious 6 came out. | ||
| That might be right in the timeline. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| The basketball season, 2015, just started. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Golden State Warriors, they have no idea what's coming. | ||
| They have no idea what's coming for them, but they're going to go on a tear. | ||
| They're going to win 73 games. | ||
| It's going to be amazing. | ||
| I would like for you... | ||
| I know we're having fun. | ||
| I'd like for you to try and have a serious guess. | ||
| Wait, was that... | ||
| Was that that year, or was that the year before that? | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| I'd like for a serious guess, though, like geopolitically. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Like, what do you think could possibly be shaking him to his core like this, that he has to vamp and put his head in his hands and pretend that he can't do the show, and he's gonna get David Knight to host so he can get Paul Joseph Watson to write an article about it? | ||
| Because this is gonna go viral, and if I just talk about it on the air, it's not gonna go viral. | ||
| It turns out that... | ||
| All of the iodine is gone. | ||
| No, you'd be way more fucked up if that was the case. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You'd be drunk. | ||
| Here's what it is. | ||
| And we have megalomaniacs running the show that hate us, the better cleaners. | ||
| They hate us because we don't commit crime at any rate that's measurable. | ||
| They hate us because we produce so much wealth. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| They hate us because we're strong. | ||
| They hate us because we're good. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| They hate us because they know that we're not criminals like them. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| I told you that they were going to start indicting Republican leadership that was patriots. | ||
| They have indicted two of Rand Paul's staffers. | ||
| They're calling it payments for endorsements. | ||
| No, the Campaign for Liberty, other organizations, that's what they do is they give money to libertarian candidates to build a movement. | ||
| And the Republican and Democratic parties have circled the wagons against the Tea Party because the Tea Party is taking over the Republican Party. | ||
| Not a good... | ||
| We've removed the Speaker. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| We're trying to get a good Speaker in. | ||
| That would be like getting a good President in. | ||
| It's just as important. | ||
| Paul Rice. | ||
| Just as important. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| This is a quiet, peaceful revolution trying to take our country back the right way. | ||
|
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Nah. | |
| And I'm telling you right now, Ron Paul's on next week, but they are trying to find anything to indict Rand Paul, Ron Paul, RuPaul, Governor Abbott. | ||
| They've already indicted the Texas Attorney General. | ||
| I told you they got the feds on me. | ||
| Why do you think Drudge was here? | ||
| Drudge has been told by Supreme Court Justice and others that it's coming. | ||
| Clarence Thomas. | ||
| They've been told. | ||
| This is white knuckle time, folks. | ||
| So how does that grab you, Jordan? | ||
| So it's because two of Rand Paul's staffers were indicted on bribes? | ||
| Do you want to know what the truth of that story is? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So the charges stem from the Elder Paul's 2012 presidential campaign in which former state senator Kent Sorensen admitted to receiving $73,000 from Ron Paul's presidential campaign. | ||
| ...in exchange for switching his endorsement from then-representative Michelle Bachman to Ron Paul. | ||
| Federal prosecutors allege that the three individuals who were charged and indicted, it's not two, it was three, they attempted to file false reports with the Federal Elections Commission to cover up payments to Sorensen in exchange for his endorsement to Ron Paul. | ||
| Benton served as Paul's campaign chairman in 2012, but has maintained his innocence. | ||
| He went on to work for America's Liberty Political Action Committee, a Rand Paul-aligned super PAC, but took leave from the organization when the first round of indictments were hand down. | ||
| They paid $73,000 to a dude to switch his endorsement. | ||
| That's really cheap. | ||
| It's also very illegal. | ||
| It's really cheap. | ||
| If you're going to do that illegally, you should hold out for more than $73,000. | ||
| It's a state senator. | ||
| It's not even a senator. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| It might be an influential person in various circles, but you can't get more than that for a state senator. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| They fucking committed a crime. | ||
| Yes, they committed a crime. | ||
| Yeah, but if they can indict people for committing crimes, if they can indict Rand Paul's people for committing crimes, Dan, they could indict anybody for committing crimes. | ||
| Anybody. | ||
| They're Rand Paul's aides, not him. | ||
| He thinks that it's going to be a thing where it's like, they're just trying to get him to flip. | ||
| Or they're like, it's perfectly timed in order to destroy his campaign. | ||
| But it's just that... | ||
| That's how the court worked. | ||
| That is one of those things, though, where there is always a part of my conspiracy theory brain that's like, that has to happen all the time. | ||
| That kind of bribery has to happen all the time. | ||
| But people don't always get caught. | ||
| We live in Illinois. | ||
| That bribery happens all the time. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| But they don't always get caught. | ||
| And just it happening, the courts can't deal with Things they don't know about. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| No, they can't. | ||
| If you don't have a charge, a court can't hear the charge. | ||
| And in this case, these guys got sloppy, and clearly Sorensen admitted to receiving the money. | ||
| He was paid off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look, he was paid off to admit that he received the money. | ||
| Oh, the globalists got to him. | ||
| He was paid $73,000. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In order to admit that he took $73,000 in order to take down Rand Paul's aides. | ||
| Because everybody knows if you take down Rand Paul's aides, you take down Rand Paul. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| So then he also talked about the Texas Attorney General who's been indicted. | ||
| So that's the big news. | ||
| Well, also the Texas Attorney General. | ||
| The big news is the worst projections of Infowars is Rand Paul's staffers got taken down for committing crimes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That confirms the worst of their fears. | ||
| That's what he teased for three minutes saying nothing, and I gotta get with Paul Joseph Watson about this. | ||
| You just gotta get in front of that word processor and write down how these guys committed crimes, and now they're in trouble for it. | ||
| But the thing is, it's not just about them, it's also about the Texas Attorney General. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Which he never says by name, because I don't think he knows his name. | ||
| His name is Ken Paxton. | ||
| And here I'm just going to read, I apologize, this is like four paragraphs or so, so I'm going to get through it. | ||
| But this is from Texas Monthly. | ||
| This is an article about why Ken Paxton got in trouble. | ||
| The case, and the federal one, involved Mr. Paxton's work in a 2011 promoting and recruiting of investors for a technology company, Serve Energy Incorporated. | ||
| Federal officials accused Mr. Paxton of encouraging and pressuring investors to invest in Serve Energy while failing to disclose that he was being compensated by the company. | ||
| The investors included several of Mr. Paxton's friends and a fellow lawmaker. | ||
| Court documents filed by the SEC claim that Mr. Paxton raised $840,000 from the investors and received 100,000 shares of stock in return but never disclosed his commissions. | ||
| Mr. Paxton told investigators that he accepted the shares as a gift from the company's founder, but the SEC claimed that the stock was actually a sales commission he failed to disclose. | ||
| So it becomes a will-they-won't-they-he-said-she-said sort of thing where it's like, ah, the guy just liked me, and I liked his company, and blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah. | ||
| But, unfortunately... | ||
| It was basically an insider trading thing. | ||
| Unfortunately, the article goes on. | ||
| We should note that Paxton was fined by the Texas State Securities Board in 2014 for failing to disclose that he had been paid to solicit investment clients on behalf of a firm who was paying him a commission. | ||
| Paxton described that as a, quote, administrative oversight and paid $1,000 in a fine, so he's admitted that he's engaged in similar behavior in the past. | ||
| The SEC also claims after meeting with Serve Energy, Paxton was offered a 10% commission from the company, and when that offer was made to him in writing, Paxton wrote back, quote, I will get to work, scheduling meetings with a number of investors shortly thereafter. | ||
| The stock issued to Paxton is identified in Serve Energy's own records as, quote, payment for, quote, services, according to the filing. | ||
| This is the bulk of the case against Paxton, but it's not the entirety of it. | ||
| The charge also implicates Paxton in the fraud charges against the former Serve Energy CEO, whose last name is Map, who faces the most dramatic charges of lying to investors by claiming that the company had bulk pre-orders from Amazon and Freescale when they did not. | ||
| Some of these investors were people who were recruited by Paxton, and phrases like, quote, Paxton did nothing to determine whether MAP's claims were true appear several times throughout the filing. | ||
| Similar charges against MAP stem from claims that serve energy's product, computer servers, were especially energy efficient and cutting edge, which does not appear to have been the case. | ||
| Paxton is associated with those claims, too, in the filing. | ||
| Quote, while Paxton possessed no technical expertise and did not know whether any of Serve Energy's claims were true, he conducted no due diligence to confirm, clarify, or correct Serve Energy's claims. | ||
| Oh, so he committed fraud. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That is why the Texas Attorney General is in trouble. | ||
| Yes, for criming. | ||
| He committed crimes. | ||
| The way Alex Jones... | ||
| All of these people that Alex Jones gets really... | ||
| They all committed the crimes. | ||
| Yeah, Alex presents that as, like, he was at a dinner party and he told people to invest in something. | ||
| He just... | ||
| He filled out a paperwork wrong. | ||
| No, he committed fraud and was getting paid under the table for bullying people into investing. | ||
| Bullying is strong, but, like, really actively recruiting. | ||
| That's a crime. | ||
| There's a reason that's a crime. | ||
| Does this happen? | ||
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So... | |
| Does this happen on the left? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Like, do we unjustly defend people who have... | ||
| Like, with this type of situation, with all of these fucking situations, with the Arpaio situation, with the Clark situation, all of that stuff, it's always, no, they didn't commit crimes. | ||
| They didn't commit the crimes. | ||
| It's always a smear campaign. | ||
| It's always this other thing. | ||
| No, because there's like Blagojevich and we're like, yeah, fucking lock him up. | ||
| So yeah, he was on the Democratic side. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Why is it not okay for us? | ||
| We cast aside our weirdos. | ||
| Blagojevich, every liberal that I know is like, get him out of here. | ||
| Yeah, get him the fuck on. | ||
| Or Anthony Weiner. | ||
| Yeah, get him the fuck on! | ||
| Now, maybe Alex Jones exaggerates a lot of the claims against Anthony Weiner, but he did a lot of fucking terrible stuff and probably should be in prison. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, no, I think that... | ||
| I mean, I'm still happy that Martha Stewart went to jail for insider trading. | ||
| She seems great, but hey, you committed a crime! | ||
| I think that a lot of liberals have a very largely even keel about abandoning their own when it's clear they've committed a crime. | ||
| And you know what I really... | ||
| I relate it to what happened with smoking as a whole. | ||
| Like, smoking became very distasteful at a certain point. | ||
| And, you know, it used to be okay to smoke on planes. | ||
| And it used to be okay to smoke in everywhere. | ||
| You could smoke in a hospital. | ||
| You could smoke... | ||
| Your doctor was smoking while giving you a pap smear. | ||
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Right. | |
| Or at a restaurant or whatever. | ||
| And by degrees, it became a thing where science came out and we're like, hey, you shouldn't be doing that there. | ||
| It's probably really bad. | ||
| And everyone's like, yep, got it. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| We'll just go over here. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Last night, I met a secondhand smoke truther. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That was pretty great. | ||
| You met Boehner? | ||
| He was explaining all this shit like, the science was wrong. | ||
| You should still be able to smoke inside bars because it's only.008%. | ||
| I honestly think he might not be too far off from the truth. | ||
| I think secondhand smoke is a little bit exaggerated. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| But at the same time, don't fucking smoke. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Even as a smoker, I get it's way better. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| But not even close. | ||
| What I'm saying is smokers are a facsimile for liberals in this case. | ||
| We would love to smoke everywhere. | ||
| I mean, we're smoking in my apartment right now. | ||
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Right. | |
| We would love it, but we realize, oh, we shouldn't be doing that on a plane. | ||
| It's contained. | ||
| Smoke can't get anywhere. | ||
| It's a tube in the sky. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| All right, fine. | ||
| And we agree to change our behavior accordingly. | ||
| And go along with it. | ||
| Whereas conservatives, they're not like smokers. | ||
| They'd be like, no, fuck you. | ||
| I'm smoking on this plane. | ||
| Because if you don't allow me to smoke on this plane, eventually I won't be able to smoke. | ||
| I think that there is that. | ||
| And that's why people on the right win all the time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they just vociferously defend people who are clearly guilty of crimes. | ||
| And Alex... | ||
| It goes back to the... | ||
| The Confederate flag on trucks thing we were talking about earlier. | ||
| If Alex had read any articles other than headlines, he'd know this stuff. | ||
| He would know that they're like, oh no, this Sorensen admitted to taking a payoff to change his endorsement. | ||
| That's not lobbying. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's a payoff. | ||
| No, that's a bribe. | ||
| Yeah, that's not okay. | ||
| I suppose the closest analog is probably how people treated Cosby. | ||
| Or, you know, where it's like, okay, sure, 20 women came out. | ||
| Okay, sure, 40 women came out. | ||
| Okay, at a certain point, you know, even the most... | ||
| Well, although there are still people who say Cosby didn't do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's like, Cosby did that shit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Or the same way with Louis C.K. Like, Louis C.K. definitely is a... | ||
| He's committed sexual assault many, many times. | ||
| Boy, it looks that way. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, he did it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He did it. | ||
| Well, I mean, I think that this is different, though, because with Cosby and with Louis C.K., there are long... | ||
| There's long histories of really positive experiences that you've had because of them. | ||
| Like, I loved Louis C.K. back in, like, the early 90s... | ||
| I'm sorry, late 90s, early 2000s. | ||
| Like, I thought he was amazing. | ||
| He was. | ||
| Even that before he... | ||
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Have you ever seen a stranger on the street again? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, God is running out of extras in your life? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Him on Dr. Katz, he's amazing. | ||
| Oh, so good on Dr. Katz. | ||
| There are those things that are very difficult to... | ||
| You feel like you have to give up on them because you see the person as... | ||
| Like, who they actually are. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that's different than just automatically defending your own blindly. | ||
| I understand the struggle of, like, man, this guy's art doesn't match up with who he is actually as a person. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's a disappointment. | ||
| Well, this is Alex just being like, if they take any of our team, they're taking us all. | ||
| And that's more cowardly. | ||
| It is a circle the wagons for any and every possible reason. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| How do you not... | ||
| And that's why you can blindly look past everything Joe Arpaio did. | ||
| And that's why these guys keep showing up. | ||
| It's because if you defend every single one of these guys, that just makes it more likely that more of these guys are going to be there. | ||
| Like, if you... | ||
| If you fucking pardon Joe Arpaio, there's going to be more Joe Arpaio's. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, that's the real situation. | ||
| Well, and the flip side of it, too, is, like, there is a power dynamic to it also. | ||
| And then Alex Jones wouldn't give a shit if, like, a couple of Ted Cruz's aides got indicted or something like that. | ||
| Even though, at this point in 2015, he supports Ted Cruz. | ||
| Do you think so? | ||
| Yeah, I don't think so. | ||
| I think it's because it's Ron Paul. | ||
| Like, because he supports Ted Cruz mostly. | ||
| But he loves Rand Paul. | ||
| And Rand Paul, to him, is like this image of pure libertarian essence. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Otherwise known as stupid nonsense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| His fear is that they're coming after these Tea Party libertarian types. | ||
| And because it's the perfect storm of, oh, those people did commit a crime, we're going to indict them. | ||
| He has to support. | ||
| In the same way that, like, individually, Even the white supremacists don't care if one of theirs gets arrested. | ||
| They did just send out warrants for one of the guys who beat up... | ||
| Sweet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was in Ohio. | ||
| Great. | ||
| A guy from Ohio went all the way to Charlottesville to be a monster. | ||
| It turns out all of them were from out of town. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| But that guy, I can't even remember his name, the Nazi who cried and everyone clowned on him. | ||
| He was a former comic, that dude. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Chris, whatever. | ||
| McCantle or McCantrell or whatever. | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| They're not going to break him out of prison. | ||
| No one's supporting him. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| It turns out that when you're a low rung on this terrible machine, you're on your fucking own. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Unless you become important to... | ||
| Alex Jones' machine or whatever. | ||
| I mean, you saw what he did to Jason Kessler, the guy who organized the Unite the Right thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He immediately pretended, oh, you're a Fed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, he just turned on him because he has no juice. | ||
| He has no influence. | ||
| That was in an unreleased episode! | ||
| Was it? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh. | ||
| We mentioned it in passing, but we didn't talk about it. | ||
| So, I mean, like, yeah, you gotta... | ||
| Even the, we support all of our own... | ||
| We don't really care about the bottom. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| We support all of our own to a certain extent. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Or if you're Trump, you don't really care about anybody who's not you. | ||
| Or who's support... | ||
| You only care about the people who have supported you in birther hoaxes. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Or have lied to you about Dennis Montgomery having evidence that Obama spied on you. | ||
| People are so fucking stupid. | ||
| Anyway, we got some more clips to get through before we clutch this thing down. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But, this next clip. | ||
| Alex is in a very weird headspace because of these indictments that have come down. | ||
| And he says this, which thematically follows so many of the other things we've talked about on this episode and the last, like, five episodes or so. | ||
| Russia. | ||
| But what he's saying is, like, it's even next-level stuff. | ||
| And I think it's because he's in such a fucked-up headspace. | ||
| Russia was captured by the Anglo-American establishment through the Bolshevik disease. | ||
| And is halfway pulled itself away from the entity. | ||
| And so is being besieged by economic warfare and destabilization foundations within. | ||
| But Russia is still a strongman mafia corruption. | ||
| But it's angelic compared to the eugenicist. | ||
| The Russians are not putting fluoride in their water and cancer viruses and their vaccine for their public. | ||
| And when they bring down the Russians, there'll be nothing else standing against them. | ||
| Except the American people. | ||
| And that's why we're under attack. | ||
| And the globalist secret weapon is the radical Muslims. | ||
| They're going to turn them loose everywhere. | ||
| Great. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what you would do if you were a globalist. | ||
| You would turn loose radical Muslims everywhere. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like you're driving around with a van and you're just like, Get out! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
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Go do go! | |
| Go do the... | ||
| Go on! | ||
| Get! | ||
| Yeah, but what he's saying there, if you really want to sum up that clip entirely, it's Russia is the last line of defense. | ||
| And the American people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Secondarily. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Russia is important. | ||
| But you understand... | ||
| Russians get vaccines. | ||
| Do you understand that... | ||
| Everybody gets vaccines. | ||
| Do you understand that in that clip... | ||
| I mean, not everybody. | ||
| In that clip... | ||
| Unfortunately. | ||
| He's betraying that he believes that Russia is better and stronger than the American people. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That once the globalists take out Russia, they'll just walk right over us. | ||
| Well, because we are the globalists. | ||
| Well, not the American public. | ||
| Oh, no, that's true. | ||
| We're the last line of defense. | ||
| Well, no, it's Russia, because we couldn't possibly stand up against them. | ||
| That's what Alex believes. | ||
| He loves Russia. | ||
| He does love Russia. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| Can we get him to go there? | ||
| Yeah, I'd love it. | ||
| Can't we just get him to move? | ||
| Yeah, especially if it was in the north. | ||
| Send him to Siberia. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
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I got it. | |
| I got it, buddy. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| I'm with you. | ||
| I'm going to skip this next clip because it's not really important and we're already at 240. | ||
| Why would you love Russia so much, but imagine him moving there? | ||
| Just for a second. | ||
| Imagine him moving to Russia. | ||
| Of course he would never do that. | ||
| No, probably not. | ||
| Ever? | ||
| No. | ||
| He wants to live in Austin. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you know why? | ||
| Because Austin's great. | ||
| Because Austin's fucking great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like a lot of America is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Unlike a lot of Russia. | ||
| Especially liberal America. | ||
| Yeah, exactly, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Occupied Texas. | ||
| He's a fucking idiot. | ||
| But if you want to think about Russia, hold on to it for a little bit. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Because we're going to get back into it. | ||
| The next clip that I'm going to skip is just him faking crying. | ||
| He tries to cry and can't. | ||
| He tries to do the fake crying, and it doesn't work. | ||
| So eventually, he ends up screaming. | ||
| He just bails. | ||
| No, he just screams. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| As opposed to that. | ||
| He just fakes mad. | ||
| But unfortunately, that clip is like three minutes long, and I'm like, fuck it. | ||
| It's not worth it. | ||
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I don't have any real emotions! | |
| So, also on this episode, Joe Biggs has been sent out to a Hillary Clinton rally. | ||
| And I believe that this is another one of the really important things. | ||
| In the projection and trajectory of Alex Jones going to Team Trump. | ||
| He is out there to, like, literally, the goal is to cause a scene. | ||
| Right. | ||
| His whole goal, his whole objective is to stir shit. | ||
| To stir the pot. | ||
| Yeah, that's what Joe Biggs does. | ||
| That's why you send Joe Biggs out places. | ||
| But it hasn't really been that way up until this point. | ||
| Because the time that he went out to a Trump rally and showed off his Hillary for prison shirt, that's not really stirring shit up. | ||
| That's pandering. | ||
| He's now started to go out to... | ||
| Now he's at a Hillary Clinton rally where he's going to unveil his Hillary for prison shirt. | ||
| He's going out specifically to troll in real life as an advertising tool. | ||
| And I believe that this is where the soy bombing begins. | ||
| And Alex starts to see that it is an incredibly effective marketing tool. | ||
| And that's why you start to get people screaming, Bill Clinton is a rapist on television, and all this shit that Alex ends up doing to quote-unquote troll the media when what he's really doing is buzz marketing. | ||
| And I think that this episode on October 15th not only has the breakdown of Alex being like, it's confirmed, they're coming for the Patriots because these Rand Paul staffers legitimately committed a crime and they're going. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| That Alex will inevitably see a spike in sales because Joe Biggs went and trolled a liberal rally. | ||
| I think that those two things are foundational in his shift. | ||
| This clip is Joe Biggs out at the rally expressing his intent. | ||
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We have been able to basically weasel our way into the Hillary Clinton event. | |
| Right now, as you can see, I have on my... | ||
| Hillary t-shirt and I'm standing in front of this Stalin-like photo of Hillary Clinton. | ||
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It's very eerie. | |
| I'm literally deep in the lion's den right now. | ||
| So I've got my Hillary for prison t-shirt on under here. | ||
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I'm going to release that later once she comes out and speaks and scream Hillary for prison and take this shirt off and then start screaming Hillary for prison. | |
| We'll see what happens. | ||
| Well, Joe, it's key you do this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's super key that you just go make an asshole out of yourself. | ||
| Well, because we need the sales. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because the money bomb was great, but we're into fiscal year 2016 now. | ||
| Now it's time to start. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We gotta start ramping up for the 2017 money bomb. | ||
| And maybe our narrative of economic collapse coming is not... | ||
| Maybe people are starting to not be scared as much by these things. | ||
| We've got to shift our strategy towards buzz marketing. | ||
| And that's what they're doing. | ||
| It's very see-through. | ||
| Joe Biggs is out at this rally, and I've cut out all of it. | ||
| I don't have any clips of it. | ||
| But he's just getting owned in debates. | ||
| He keeps trying to have debates with people. | ||
| It's so funny because Alex is back in the studio being like, these people are so stupid. | ||
| And then the actual video that he's talking over is people making great points and Joe Biggs having no real argument and then saying Benghazi. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And then Alex will be back in the studio and he's like, push on Benghazi. | ||
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Push, push. | |
| It's like he's jacking off in studio to Joe Biggs losing an argument. | ||
| It's really bizarre. | ||
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It's... | |
| That is exactly why these people are so frustrating and stupid. | ||
| Because they lose and they don't realize it. | ||
| If he wanted to do that, if you're like, okay, I am going to go start shit and start debates with people. | ||
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Prep. | |
| That'd be great. | ||
| Read. | ||
| Come there with an idea of what you're going to do instead of this half-assed, I know I'm going to win because I'm loud and dumb. | ||
| But they think they have researched. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
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But they're dumb! | |
| It's a pure hatred for anybody who knows what they're fucking talking about. | ||
| But it's the same thing that I run into when I talk to people who are, quote, into conspiracy theories and have just gotten high and watched YouTube videos. | ||
| It's the same thing with Joe Biggs. | ||
| He's the equivalent intellectually, politically, of someone who's gotten high and watched YouTube videos and wants to talk to you about the, you know, what happened on Jekyll Island. | ||
| That's when they brought together the central bank. | ||
| Oh, what about the CFR? | ||
| What about the CFR? | ||
| What about him? | ||
| What about him? | ||
| What about the Council on Foreign Relations? | ||
| What about Bilderberg? | ||
| Like, alright. | ||
| What about him? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| It's the Dunning-Kruger effect or whatever it is where you're too dumb to know what you're too dumb about. | ||
| Yeah, and if you're smart, you think you're dumber than you are. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But there are a couple people who do admirably in debates against him. | ||
| They're thrown off by the fact that he keeps... | ||
| Clearly having to listen to Alex and his earpiece and not really engage with the flow of conversation. | ||
| But they're there for a little bit and then we go back into studio where Alex Jones has an interview with a gentleman by the name of Paul Craig Roberts. | ||
| He's a fairly regular guest on the show. | ||
| He is a guy who's a survival type of guy. | ||
| He's into prepping and what have you. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's also a dick. | ||
| I think... | ||
| I think now might be a good time to listen to somebody who's into doomsday prepping. | ||
| He would not like to help you because you're a dumb libtard cuck. | ||
| Right, but I think the doomsday is coming for all of us, so I think it's important to be prepared. | ||
| I mean, I guess he would probably just tell you to get guns and water and gold. | ||
| There we go! | ||
| Now that I have that information, Dan, I can do that. | ||
| This guy is a huge dick. | ||
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And I think that one of the signs of hope... | |
| Is the two speeches that Obama and Putin gave at the UN on the 28th of September. | ||
| Because the whole world saw that Obama was a stooge, a liar, a deceiver, and that Putin was a statesman who told the truth and stood up. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| How can you believe that? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| How can you actually believe that? | ||
| You can't possibly really believe that. | ||
| You can if you really hate the idea of a black president. | ||
| But that's insane! | ||
| That doesn't make any sense at all. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That did not... | ||
| Well, I mean, that's why you can have a psych warfare guest on you and have no idea that they're doing that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, Putin is always lying. | ||
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Yep. | |
| That's all he does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was his job. | ||
| 30 years ago. | ||
| That's all he does. | ||
| Everybody knows that. | ||
| Everybody in the world knows that. | ||
| How can you possibly believe that it's not the truth? | ||
| I mean, I get it if you are a Russian citizen and all you get is Russian-owned media all day, every day. | ||
| But, I mean, even fucking North Koreans, half of them are like... | ||
| We're going along with this not to die. | ||
| Yeah, he didn't really do any of that shit. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| But he totally did. | ||
| He totally did. | ||
| I mean, if you ask me about it, but he didn't really. | ||
| Great leader. | ||
| I'm crying about your dad's death. | ||
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Oh, he's amazing. | |
| He's amazing. | ||
| He's God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But if you're here, come on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Come the fuck on. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Step outside and look at this shit, and there's no possible way you can be like, oh, Putin is a statesman. | ||
| It gets worse. | ||
| Where it's like, Putin's like Reagan. | ||
| Saying to us, stop being tyrants and saying, look what you've done in the Middle East funding ISIS and Al-Qaeda. | ||
| Shame on you. | ||
| It's like the emperor's new clothes. | ||
| Putin really is being a statesman. | ||
| What do you expect them to do now to try to counter that? | ||
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I think the CIA will try to assassinate him. | |
| Okay. | ||
| I think Putin's in substantial danger of assassination. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| I hope he stops walking around the streets unprotected. | ||
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And no American president can do that. | |
| Only Putin. | ||
| Well, he's not a coward, that's for sure. | ||
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Well, I mean, the people there don't want to kill him. | |
| Oh, that ain't true. | ||
| That ain't true, my friend. | ||
| That's like the argument that Trump had when he went to Saudi Arabia. | ||
| It's like, no protests there. | ||
| Or Wilbur Ross said that, I believe. | ||
| But yeah, it's like, they don't want to kill him. | ||
| A lot of people... | ||
| Do want him out of power, and then they get killed. | ||
| That's what happens. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That seems to happen repeatedly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or they get thrown in weird prisons. | ||
| You know, they maybe don't get killed, they just get thrown in a hole somewhere. | ||
| Yeah, how many diplomats all around the world has Putin managed to kill at this point? | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| 70 or 80? | ||
| The list is staggering. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the idea that they pretend that... | ||
| Oh, plenty of people want to kill Putin. | ||
| The problem is, he's way better at them. | ||
| He's way better at them than they are. | ||
| Because he has an evolved version of the KGB that he's operating. | ||
| This is pathetic. | ||
| And it's naked in terms of how clear it is that this is a show that is demonstrating outright, unequivocal support for Putin and Russia. | ||
| And anti-American sentiment. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And he has not endorsed Trump. | ||
| This predates all of that. | ||
| This is where his heart is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That Putin is awesome and Russia is the last line of defense. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| That is fucked up. | ||
| That's profoundly fucked up. | ||
| And way worse than anything I thought that we would uncover just by listening to his show. | ||
| It's not like we're doing any sleuthing. | ||
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I know! | |
| We're just using his words. | ||
| He's just saying this shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He just knows that no one's paying attention or they already believe the globalist narrative. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Or the people who are paying attention aren't paying attention to this shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're waiting for him to take his shirt off. | ||
| Or maybe because he... | ||
| In the same way we're all waiting for Putin to take his shirt off. | ||
| Or maybe it's because he demonizes the mainstream media so much people are like, oh, what is the real media? | ||
| Oh, it's RT. | ||
| It's Sedonia. | ||
| It's these Russian media outlets that he points to. | ||
| And maybe they believe the narrative. | ||
| And they can't go to Al Jazeera or something like that. | ||
| There's barcodes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Barcodes. | ||
| Barcodes. | ||
| Fucking get in your brain. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Go listen to the Dennis Montgomery episode. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| So at this point, Paul Craig Roberts is gone. | ||
| And they go back to Joe Biggs at the Hillary Clinton rally because Hillary has started her speech. | ||
| And Alex wants to comment on it a little bit, wants to get a little sassy, and this is stupid. | ||
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I've got to tell you, Phil and I fell in love with South Texas. | |
| We ate a lot of green enchiladas at me. | ||
| Don't vote for Monica's boyfriend's wife. | ||
| And what they do is they give them an anthropology briefing. | ||
| Hit shiner bot, green enchiladas. | ||
| South Texas. | ||
| This is CIA anthropology. | ||
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Every area she goes to, she says the politics. | |
| Alex is describing what road hacks do as CIA anthropology. | ||
| We, as comedians, have been in green rooms with touring hacks who have been like... | ||
| What's the thing that people make fun of around here? | ||
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Yep. | |
| That happens all the time. | ||
| What's the city that your city doesn't like? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| What's the small town? | ||
| What's the one that everybody... | ||
| Oh, it's the Shelbyville or whatever it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's the thing where it's like, how do I mad libs a joke into getting a rise out of the audience? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And of course, fucking politicians pander to wherever they are. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Also, I don't believe... | ||
| And it's lame. | ||
| It's dumb, the same way I hate the road hack doing it. | ||
| I don't like Hillary name-checking green enchiladas, but fucking why? | ||
| But here's the deal. | ||
| You hate it in terms of performance. | ||
| Because you hate the road hack in terms of like, ah, this is fake performance. | ||
| And you hate that in Hillary Clinton as well. | ||
| But that doesn't mean that she's being dishonest. | ||
| She's just not a great dynamic performer. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| On stage and has to fall back on those tricks. | ||
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Right. | |
| In the same way that a comedian should evolve to the point where they're able to, on stage, ask, hey, what do you guys not like? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And be able to integrate it simply into their crowd work. | ||
| Road hacks can't. | ||
| And they just want to be able to pretend that they know this stuff already. | ||
| Also... | ||
| Yeah, pre-planned crowd work is the worst crowd work. | ||
| And that's what that is, basically. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And Hillary maybe has had Shiner Bach in her life. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| Also, I've had Shiner Bock. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| It's all right. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| It's a beer. | ||
| It's not bad. | ||
| Yeah, you shouldn't be proud of it. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| I know local pride. | ||
| So, this next... | ||
| Looks like we're not going to South Texas anytime soon. | ||
| I go visit my parents in Austin and drink some Shiner Bock. | ||
| I tell them how much I love the Shiner Bock and they're like, you're a great son. | ||
| You should have a green enchilada. | ||
| You're like, I've already had one. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex Jones is still... | ||
| Doing some mystery science theater over the Hillary Clinton speech. | ||
| But he takes the opportunity to break out some impressions. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Some of these might be offensive. | ||
| She's all in any politics. | ||
| Green enchiladas, the valley. | ||
| I'd slit your throat if she could. | ||
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I listened as people shared their stories, their worries, their dreams. | |
| Their worries, their dreams. | ||
| I'm going to give you your dreams. | ||
| I'm going to give you your dreams. | ||
| I know your area. | ||
| Green enchiladas. | ||
| I'm your friend. | ||
| I'm your friend. | ||
| Obamacare. | ||
| It's free. | ||
| Two plus two equals five. | ||
| Mothers, grandmothers, each group. | ||
| Grandmothers, mothers, Vikings, Hispanics, all of you, black people, women, ooh, ooh, you're all getting mentioned, ooh, ooh, ooh, it's just, I mean, I'd get up there and give them a real speech. | ||
| I wouldn't go, I know your Shiner Bach and your green enchiladas. | ||
| We saw you on stage. | ||
| She goes, we know what you're like. | ||
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You think I'm joking? | |
| And then when she goes to LA to speak to a Spanish group, she goes, Hello! | ||
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Good to see you today! | |
| I mean, this is the condescension of how dumb she thinks people are. | ||
| Let's go back and listen to her in her monotone voice. | ||
| I want to say a couple things. | ||
| First, him arguing that she has a monotone voice while she is the master of impressions, based on what he's saying. | ||
| If she can pull off different impressions, she's not monotone. | ||
| Second, she doesn't do that. | ||
| Third, Those impressions are racist as fuck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, if you're doing a racist impression of a Hispanic person, he went hard Asian. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| In terms of racist impressions, that's a racist Asian impression. | ||
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Oh, he's so good to see you. | |
| That's that hack version of an impression. | ||
| What is he doing? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And then in the last part, he says exactly what he's doing. | ||
| And then just... | ||
| He's infuriating. | ||
| She thinks people are so dumb as to buy that. | ||
| Wait, do you mean you just did a thing that she doesn't do? | ||
| It's becoming really tired for us to argue that he's projecting, but boy, does he do that a lot. | ||
| I know, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So we have one more clip. | ||
| Whatever it is they say you're doing is what they're doing. | ||
| Or what you're doing. | ||
| Whatever we're doing is what they say you're doing, but what they're saying they're doing is actually what we're doing. | ||
| But what we're doing is what they're doing. | ||
| Will Shakespeare. | ||
| So we've got one more clip. | ||
| And it's where we're going to end October 15th. | ||
| This whole investigation has been about when does Alex Jones support Donald Trump? | ||
| I keep forgetting that. | ||
| I feel like all of our investigation has actually been Why does he love Russia so much? | ||
| No, it's turned into that. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That was not the intention. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| Didn't know that was a thing. | ||
| And a lot of the investigation has turned into, wow, this guy rewrites history a lot. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There's a ton of... | ||
| Well, you have to whenever you predicted the different stuff happening and that it didn't happen. | ||
| So you're like, yeah, but what I predicted was what happened. | ||
| It actually happened. | ||
| You just don't know that it happened because you're brainwashed. | ||
| You're not awake. | ||
| So we check in here. | ||
| Alex Jones has a conversation with Joe Biggs about where we stand on the candidates. | ||
| And let's see if any change has happened. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
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They don't really look at the facts. | |
| They don't actually go in. | ||
| This is a whole country that's just obsessed with being progressive and trendy and cool. | ||
| You know, we just had the last guy. | ||
| He was black, the first. | ||
| So now automatically we have to have the first female president. | ||
| And if not, we're misogynists, we're sexists, we're racist, you know, and it's that whole same thing that they keep serving to us every day. | ||
| Joe Biggs, who are you really liking? | ||
| I mean, obviously, I like what Trump says. | ||
| I like the fact he's aggressive. | ||
| I don't know if I trust his history, but now they're moving to basically go after Rand Paul and Ron Paul, indicting their former chief of staff for nothing, literally nothing. | ||
| I mean, this is getting creepy. | ||
| I mean, except for the brides. | ||
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It shows you they're scared of, you know, the Pauls, obviously. | |
| I mean, these are people who go out and speak the truth. | ||
| You know, there are some things that Rand Paul does that I quite, you know, I don't really agree with. | ||
| But there's more things that he does do that I do go with. | ||
| You know, Donald Trump, like we've said before, he says a lot of great things. | ||
| But at the same time, he doesn't offer a lot of solutions. | ||
| It's still early in the race. | ||
| I'm still hoping for him to come out and kind of give me some solutions to these problems that keeps bringing to the table. | ||
| You know, building a wall simply will not fix this immigration problem. | ||
| We've been to the border before. | ||
| We've shown how wide open it is. | ||
| And even if there is a fence there, in places in Arizona or Texas that have fences, people say that... | ||
| get over it they go under it they figure out a way they pay somebody to get stuck in the back of the junk we need to do something more than just building a wall and that's just going to be a big waste of money but you know like i said it's early he's got time to come out with some other things you know i think on the democrat side really doesn't fit over there i think he should have been in the gop race he doesn't really seem to have the uh the qualities of the other candidates that were running for the uh You know, Democratic contender, so who knows? | ||
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Like I said, it's still early. | |
| We'll see what happens. | ||
| But at this point in time, what I do know 100% is that this woman does not belong in there. | ||
| She does not belong in the White House. | ||
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She does not belong as our president. | |
| It's disgusting to see this many people show up in support of this woman knowing that she's going into this with so many lies on the table. | ||
| You know? | ||
| This is so frustrating. | ||
| For two reasons. | ||
| One, that you shouted that Joe Biggs was making a lot of sense until the end. | ||
| Yeah, then it got fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, it does really bring home that everyone is just anti-Hillary. | ||
| They don't have any foundation of what they're for as much as what they're against. | ||
| So there is that, and I think he crystallized that point. | ||
| But the idea that Trump is saying a bunch of bullshit that sounds good, but there's no solutions... | ||
| I mean, that's very reasonable. | ||
| That's a nuanced look at Trump, and Joe Biggs is way smarter than Alex. | ||
| At the same time, this show is about Alex Jones, and it is unspeakably frustrating that he hasn't changed at all in terms of Trump. | ||
| It's still, I like what he's saying, don't know if I can trust him. | ||
| I mean, we're going to have to push the fast-forward button here. | ||
| I'm trying! | ||
| I know, this is out of control. | ||
| Well, the thing is, I'm trying, but then at the same time, Every few days, something important happens. | ||
| Drudge shows up, or in this episode, Alex has the Confederate flag narrative, plus the Ron Paul aides, Rand Paul aides getting taken down, and this is the end of conservative... | ||
| There's too much that ends up happening. | ||
| Every few years. | ||
| Every few months. | ||
| It used to be every few years. | ||
| Something... | ||
| So crazy happens. | ||
| You can just see inside the box that normally you can't see into. | ||
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Every few months now, it happens. | |
| Every few days it happens on his show? | ||
| It is crazy. | ||
| It blows my mind. | ||
| Dan, I don't even feel like we're worthy enough to broadcast what it is that we're looking for. | ||
| And this happens every few... | ||
| Boy, I mean, we record? | ||
| Every couple of days. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Every couple of days, we record this podcast. | ||
| Sometimes. | ||
| Something so big happens. | ||
| Something Joe big happens. | ||
| I don't know how long I can do that for. | ||
| I was going to see if you could go three minutes. | ||
| I couldn't. | ||
| I was boring myself so much. | ||
| How does he pull that off? | ||
| He's got skills. | ||
| Also, he allows long gaps. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So that helps. | ||
| But like... | ||
| I mean, we know. | ||
| We get it. | ||
| He loves Russia. | ||
| He loves Russia. | ||
| That's the end of this investigation, really. | ||
| So it is going to come down to marching orders from Russia. | ||
| Well, maybe not... | ||
| Not necessarily direct orders, but once Russia goes, we're all in for Trump. | ||
| I think it's going to be a combination of that and the various people who... | ||
| Like, I think my initial prediction is still half right, but I didn't predict the Russia stuff. | ||
| I think there's the Russia stuff. | ||
| And then he's being lied to. | ||
| I think we saw earlier Steve Pachanik is going to show up on the show within the next few days. | ||
| Roger Stone is only, I think, a month away from showing up, probably. | ||
| Really? | ||
| But he has to be. | ||
| Trump's on the show in December. | ||
| It's late October. | ||
| Oh yeah, we're getting down to it. | ||
| Yeah, there's no way he doesn't show up within a month or so. | ||
| So even if he does... | ||
| I think there's just these people lying to him and him taking in lies from state media in Russia that he's like, oh, it's counter to CNN, so it must be true. | ||
| I think that's it. | ||
| I mean, we're going to keep going because, like I said, our predictions have been wrong repeatedly. | ||
| I don't see how that's not the picture that's taking shape. | ||
| It seems like it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But even then, is it the full-throated 1776 2.0? | ||
| Again. | ||
| It doesn't happen right away, right? | ||
| There isn't that turn. | ||
| It might. | ||
| It could. | ||
| It might be a fake love at first sight kind of thing. | ||
| I never saw the actual interview that he did with Alex Jones. | ||
| The current fucking... | ||
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That guy. | |
| That guy. | ||
| I never saw the interview that he did with Alex. | ||
| I can't imagine it was already that full, like, you're the goddamn hero of this fucking world! | ||
| It wasn't that then, was it? | ||
| I think it has to be. | ||
| I don't know, because I don't know. | ||
| I didn't listen to the shows around it. | ||
| But I think it has to be just based on the psychology of Trump. | ||
| I don't think that he would have appeared on Alex's show if he didn't know he was going to get a giant jerk off. | ||
| Let's put it in Game of Thrones term if he didn't bend the knee. | ||
| I think that there has to be that transformation before Trump would give him the time of day. | ||
| And Trump bended the knee a little bit when he was on. | ||
| In the sense that he said, your reputation is amazing. | ||
| We're going to be talking a lot in the future. | ||
| Yeah, but he was just doing Trump speak, which is lies upon lies. | ||
| But I still think he can constrain himself a little bit, especially when it comes to compliments. | ||
| Like, I think he always throws superlatives and flowery language on negatives, but when he's complimenting somebody, I think he is probably much more constrained, because that reflects poorly on him if he's complimented someone who's, you know... | ||
| Not worthy of a compliment? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think it's more he just doesn't have a very large vocabulary when it comes to nice things. | ||
| Yeah, that's probably true. | ||
| But be that as it may, this is supremely frustrating as a job for me because I want to see real change. | ||
| I want the narrative to progress. | ||
| And I don't... | ||
| I guess what the lesson is for me is I thought the narrative of the investigation was why did Alex Jones support Trump? | ||
| And it turns out the investigation narrative really is, holy shit, he loves Putin, and of course he supports Trump. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's becoming very different than what we set out for. | ||
| I know we've commented on that in the past, but it can't be stated enough. | ||
| This is really weird. | ||
| This is fucked up. | ||
| Super weird. | ||
| We have RT on Alex Jones' show. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| On our next episode... | ||
| It's going to get even weirder. | ||
| Oh, goddammit. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| On our next episode, we cover the episode that includes the classic tap water is a gay bomb. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
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There we go. | |
| I want to tease that. | ||
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All right. | |
| That comes up in the next episode, so get ready for that. | ||
| Nice tease. | ||
| Yeah, thanks. | ||
| Well done. | ||
| We will also be teasing a live show that's September 9th. | ||
| We should have said that three hours ago. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| We suck. | ||
| We're bad at promoting, Dan. | ||
| Yeah, 999, Herman Cain style. | ||
| We're going to be at North Bar here in Chicago, Illinois. | ||
| It's over on North Avenue. | ||
| And it's at it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| No cover, I believe. | ||
| I haven't worked out all the details, but I don't want to charge a cover. | ||
| We've worked out generally no details. | ||
| There'll be drink specials. | ||
| We're going to have a great time. | ||
| Be some stand-up, our podcast, that won't go three hours. | ||
| Contractually. | ||
| Yeah, it'll be a regular show, maybe an hour and a half or so, dance party afterwards. | ||
| Jordan wants to do the 9-11 episode. | ||
| I say no. | ||
| Yeah, I immediately rethought that. | ||
| We will see what happens. | ||
| I was like, wait a second, why would we do the greatest national tragedy in a long time? | ||
| You know what might be fun? | ||
| To do the 9-10 episode. | ||
| Oh, see what the world was like. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He just gets on a plane with no security. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We'll talk about it off air. | ||
| But yeah, we're doing that. | ||
| If you want to find out more about the show and find... | ||
| Links to the archives and a bunch of other stuff. | ||
| Go to knowledgefight.com, our website. | ||
| You can follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
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| That's always nice. | ||
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| We are now officially up to all five-star reviews on Facebook. | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| Feel pretty good about that. | ||
| Thank you very much for everybody who's, you know, said we're great. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Another thing we should have done three hours ago. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I've just gotten a bunch of responses from people in Europe. | ||
| On our last episode, I mentioned that check in if your country likes Trump, and I've gotten responses from five countries in Europe, and all of them are uniformly, we don't like him, and also I'm getting a real strong sense of most people here don't really care about your politics, and the ones who do, that like Trump, we think are crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, that makes sense. | ||
| That sounds about right. | ||
| I relate to that. | ||
| Yeah, I think we're all on that tip. | ||
| Yeah, but thanks for the feedback. | ||
| I really appreciate it, guys. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Beyond that... | ||
| Do we have anything, like, is there... | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| Do we... | ||
| Like, how do we get out of this? | ||
| Like, we've just been recording for a long time. | ||
| We could say dasvidanya. | ||
| Do we just, like, do we just cut? | ||
| Like, how do we end this show? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I honestly... | ||
| I have not been listening to you for the last 30 seconds. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because all I'm thinking about in my head, and this is not... | ||
| I know we're doing the bit, but... | ||
| Apparently we're not doing the bit, Dan. | ||
| Apparently we're not doing the bit now. | ||
| This isn't part of the bit. | ||
| I've legitimately recognized in my head that we're trying to do the bit. | ||
| And all I can think about is John Rappaport doing that Russian dance where they squat down and kick their legs out. | ||
| All I can do is think about that. | ||
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It's a really funny visual with his big gray beard. | |
| Just doing the kicks. | ||
| It's really great. | ||
| Legitimately, that image of John Rappaport is the polar opposite of actual John Rappaport, who is terrible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Do you have any words for him? | ||
| I would just like to say from all of us here at Knowledge Fight, go fuck yourself, John Rapoport! | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |