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Aug. 25, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#77: August 23, 2017

August 23, 2017’s Knowledge Fight dissects Alex Jones’ drunken, conspiracy-laced rants—like his birther ties to Joe Arpaio (contempt conviction, racial profiling) and Trump’s alleged pardon—while exposing his anti-Semitic "globalist" tropes blaming Jews (Soros, Schumer, Schiff) for U.S. policies. Jones’ erratic claims—psychic goblins, cloned leftists, Islamic pedophilia—highlight his unhinged rhetoric, dismissed as either delusional or performative. The episode ends with Jones’ desperate fundraising and hosts mocking his self-seriousness, framing his show as a mix of pseudojournalism and activism theater. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
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alex jones
infowars 28:54
d
dan friesen
01:15:23
j
jordan holmes
41:22
Appearances
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sheriff joe arpaio
01:08
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your work.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Let me ask you, Dan.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Before we go any further.
dan friesen
I would love to answer any questions.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Are we opening the floor?
dan friesen
Just for one, though.
We only have two questions.
jordan holmes
Just one question?
Because I had another question.
dan friesen
If it's a follow-up, I'll allow it.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But otherwise, one question.
jordan holmes
Do you know a lot about Alex Jones?
dan friesen
I do.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Follow-up.
jordan holmes
Follow-up question.
How much do I know about Alex Jones?
dan friesen
Not much.
jordan holmes
All right.
There we go.
dan friesen
That's the theme of the question.
jordan holmes
I think that was a great bit.
I think we fucking nailed that.
dan friesen
What was your follow-up?
Oh, that was the follow-up?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I thought it was going to be about my cool new Fitbit.
jordan holmes
I knew you were going to talk about it.
dan friesen
I have to bring it up, guys.
I'm a Fitbit guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there we go.
dan friesen
I wanted to bring this up, and I didn't tell you before we started recording because I think it's fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't do stand-up anymore.
jordan holmes
Are you about to sell me a bit?
unidentified
Is that what I'm doing?
dan friesen
I'm not about to sell you a bit, but I'm going to make an observation that belongs on the stage.
jordan holmes
Have you ever noticed that white people be like this?
unidentified
White people on Fitbits are like this.
dan friesen
So the app, it has a thing where it buzzes your little armband at certain points.
It's hooked up to my phone.
So whenever I get a text, like when you texted me, I got a little buzz.
But it also does it if you haven't moved in a while.
jordan holmes
So it's an electric shock caller, is what you're saying.
dan friesen
It'll say, hey, want to take a walk?
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
And at work, that just is like, I do want to have a cigarette.
So now this Fitbit is just reminding me to go take cigarette breaks.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
So the Fitbit is killing you.
dan friesen
It's killing my lungs, but helping my legs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there we go.
dan friesen
It's a compromise we all got to make.
Right.
Something I like more than my Fitbit.
jordan holmes
In terms of whether or not any of us are going to live to see lung cancer, my advice, smoke them if you got them.
dan friesen
Indeed.
The world's going down.
It's terrible, but something that's not terrible is our new donator.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to give a shout-out and welcome to the fold of the policy wonks, John C. I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you for joining up.
jordan holmes
That was our make-a-wish, wasn't it, John Cena?
That's exactly what just happened right now.
dan friesen
The champ is here.
Also, I need to do this because I think I've fallen behind in terms of our foreign policy wonks.
We have a couple in the last week, and I think I might have given one a foreign policy wonk status, but I can't remember.
So I'm just going to go through all of them.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Andrew.
jordan holmes
Wait, these are people who've all upped their donations?
Indeed.
Fuck yeah, man.
dan friesen
Actually, I think Andrew definitely already did, but now that I've already said his name, got to do it anyway.
jordan holmes
It's too late now.
dan friesen
Congratulations on becoming a foreign policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you very much.
Also, I'd like to give a shout-out to Jason.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Now that I'm doing this, I think I've done this all already.
I'm so up in my head that I can't remember.
All right.
Also, congratulations on becoming a foreign policy wonk Scott.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
All right, there we go.
That might have been excessive, and it might have been all in repetition, but I want to make sure that we got everybody covered.
I'm not good at monitoring my email.
jordan holmes
It's like you're scamming us.
I don't know why I'm included, but it's like, hey, just a reminder, if you up your donation, we will give you another policy wonk.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Look, the real thing is I feel I don't want to welch on stuff.
You know, like, I don't want to be one of these guys who says you're going to become a foreign policy wonk, and then people come through, and I just forget.
jordan holmes
One of those guys?
dan friesen
One of those guys.
Is that a large characteristic?
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There are so many Kickstarters.
jordan holmes
Go to fucking the Chicago Stock Exchange, and all you can see is those guys who say, listen, you're going to be a foreign policy wonk, but they never follow through.
dan friesen
There's so many people who do Kickstarters and then just don't send out the prizes and stuff like that.
Yeah, it's endemic.
jordan holmes
That seems like a problem.
dan friesen
It's pretty bad, but it also cuts down on overhead.
jordan holmes
Yes, lying and cheating people is definitely a hallmark of capitalism.
dan friesen
Stakes are real low for most people's creative Kickstarters.
Also, I'd like to give a shout-out to Sonia from Sweden.
Sent me a nice email.
I really appreciated that.
Informed us that Alex Jones is wrong about Sweden.
jordan holmes
Which we already know.
You know what?
We could have guessed that, but I have always wanted to marry a woman named Sonia from Sweden.
dan friesen
It almost is coming off as a cliche, and I'm worried that.
jordan holmes
No, she's real.
She's real, Dan.
Don't look.
dan friesen
I'm convinced that.
jordan holmes
Where else do women named Sonia come from?
dan friesen
Mortal Kombat.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
She was an American, I believe.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I'm just convinced that it's.
jordan holmes
Red Sonia.
unidentified
She's there.
dan friesen
She's Russian.
unidentified
For sure.
dan friesen
Everybody who likes us, I'm convinced, is fake.
So that's why I just get up in my mind.
jordan holmes
Well, that's why John Cena donated this whole thing.
This whole thing has just been a make-a-wish for you, Dan.
dan friesen
I don't really give a shit.
jordan holmes
We've bought all these Twitter bots.
We've got all these.
unidentified
Oh, all these Twitter bots.
jordan holmes
Good point.
Good point.
John Cena, again, is not making a big donation to the show.
dan friesen
I'm in a place in my life where maybe I'm an old man, but I know that the wrestling fans of the world don't like John Cena because he wins all the time.
I don't care because I get to hear his theme song again if he wins.
jordan holmes
Whose theme song?
dan friesen
John Cena.
jordan holmes
What's his theme song?
That's exactly what I was hoping for.
It's good horns.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, before we get to today's episode, I would like to just.
jordan holmes
Are we still doing preamble?
Everybody has already stopped listening by now.
dan friesen
We are because I have a few things I need to say about the world at large.
Well, actually, one main thing.
I'm starting to become incredibly concerned about Joe Rogan.
And this is something that our friend Far Out, friend of the show, he brought to my attention a while back.
But his most recent guest was Peter Schiff, who's someone who we've spoken about on this show a lot.
jordan holmes
Many times.
dan friesen
He's one of Alex Jones' favorite economists.
And he went on Joe Rogan's show, and I listened to the first two hours of it.
And he's just talking all this bullshit about how he moved his business to Puerto Rico to avoid federal tax.
jordan holmes
That's not great.
dan friesen
He believes that the minimum wage should be nothing because if you don't have the skills to earn a high wage, it's your fault.
All right.
It's all these ideas.
jordan holmes
Children should work in coal mines.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
They've got to learn skills.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
And it should be for like a dollar an hour because they're children.
They don't have the skills yet.
They don't have a resume built up.
jordan holmes
No, it's about, look, it's about exposure, really, is what it is.
dan friesen
He's dropping all these noxious ideas of libertarianism.
And I don't know what Joe Rogan's deal is now because he's had a string of these alt-right libertarian ding-dongs on his show pretty consistently, mixed in with, you know, your Joey Diaz's and the standard guest he has.
But I'm becoming super worried because he was not challenging Peter Schiff's ideas at all and was just signing off on them and saying, oh, that makes sense.
Why does no one talk about this?
unidentified
Well, a lot of people do.
jordan holmes
Why does no one talk about this?
dan friesen
Your new fan base is going to quite a bit.
jordan holmes
You know what's weird?
I was watching the live stream and you can see the video.
And he put some Superman vitality on a burger and just ate it during Peter Schiff's shit.
dan friesen
He might as well.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He might as well.
He is like a, he seems smarter and yells less, but he's becoming Alex Jones.
And it's deeply troubling.
unidentified
You know what?
jordan holmes
I'm starting to think it's all CTE.
dan friesen
You think so?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think it's just these people have been hitting ahead a bunch.
dan friesen
That is something that Alex and Joe have in common.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
dan friesen
That could be.
My cat is humping the wall.
All right, I think she's done now.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Why do you think Tom Brady is a Trump showporter guy?
Trump's supporter?
dan friesen
So your argument would be that the entire NFL basically supports Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
That's why Kaepernick so much.
jordan holmes
100%.
That's why they hate Kaepernick.
dan friesen
And Kaepernick didn't get a whole lot of playing time, not a lot of time to get sacked.
Therefore, he is safe from the CTE.
unidentified
There we go.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
We might have cracked the code.
Anyway, my point that I wanted to make is I'm deeply concerned about this growing and spreading disease and further really worried that Joe's fan base, Joe Rogan's fanbase, is incredibly impressionable.
They look up to him as an icon in the same way that I looked up to Adam Carolla when I was in junior high in high school.
And I'm concerned about them being exposed to Peter Schiff, talking his ass off for two hours, more or less unchallenged by Rogan.
Or when he challenges him, it's really soft.
It's really kid glovesy kind of stuff.
And they never even get to the part or really discuss the fact that Peter Schiff believes that taxation is a crime against people.
jordan holmes
Does he pay taxes?
unidentified
Wait.
dan friesen
He doesn't.
unidentified
He lives in Puerto Rico to escape taxes.
All right.
jordan holmes
Well, then we shouldn't allow him to have roads or all the stuff.
dan friesen
Well, apparently there's like...
jordan holmes
Let's take his feet.
That's what I...
If you don't want to pay federal income tax, that is fine.
I recognize that I support your decision.
No feet.
Those are the rules.
dan friesen
Anyway, I'm pissed off, and whatever.
Who cares?
I will deal with it in my own ways, which will probably be drinking tons of this black raspberry sparkling water.
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
That's right.
We are drinking nice.
dan friesen
It is an exclamation point.
jordan holmes
Yeah, oh, there's definitely an exclamation point.
It's like the Steven Soderbergh movie, The Informant!
It's Black Raspberry Sparkling Water.
dan friesen
Or the band PANIC!
At the discord.
So today we're going to be discussing the August 23rd, 2017 episode of the Alex Jones Show.
That was Wednesday of this week.
jordan holmes
Oh, we're in the present.
dan friesen
We are.
jordan holmes
Do we have to be?
dan friesen
We do.
jordan holmes
Can I call an audible during the show?
Is that possible?
dan friesen
It would take the rest of the night for us to call an audible.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That would be no good.
jordan holmes
I've already vaped for roughly 15 seconds.
I can probably do it for about four or six hours.
dan friesen
You can just do a soliloquy while I pull clips.
No.
jordan holmes
It's a filibuster.
dan friesen
This episode sucks.
jordan holmes
I am filibustering the present, Dan.
dan friesen
This episode sucks on a number of levels, but it's worth it for at least three or four moments that no one is discussing.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
That really deserves some attention.
And unfortunately, we're probably going to have to talk for a minute about Joe Arpaio.
I know that sucks, but we'll keep it to a minimum.
But before we get to today's episode, here's a nice out-of-context drop from Alex Jones.
alex jones
Boy, if that's Alzheimer's, I want some.
dan friesen
Yeah, great.
What an idiot.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
All right.
I like that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm going to use that.
dan friesen
That was in reference.
jordan holmes
I'll use that more often in a regular conversation.
unidentified
Boy, if that's Alzheimer's, I want it.
dan friesen
That was in reference to Trump's speech that he gave in Phoenix.
jordan holmes
Oh, the one where it kind of sounded like Trump has Alzheimer's?
dan friesen
The one where he was crazy as shit.
jordan holmes
The one where he's a fucking lunatic who is still legitimately our president, even though even by doing that fucking thing, he probably broke at least three or four different things.
Like, he had a public official on a campaign trail.
alex jones
That's illegal.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's like the hatch act.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and everybody's just fucking fine with it because it's 1,000 on the list of shit that's going wrong.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
I mean, you're.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we don't have laws anymore.
We just don't have laws.
dan friesen
I tried to stammer my way through that like I was Bob Newhart.
I fucked it up.
Couldn't come to an actual sentence at the end of it.
So he talks a bit about the speech in Phoenix.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that's how he decides to start things off.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
alex jones
Donald Trump is so incredibly riveting.
I can't turn away.
This is the ultimate reality show.
He's a real president.
jordan holmes
That is true.
alex jones
He's surrounded by total criminals trying to kill him.
He's doing the best job he can to try to turn the economy around.
It's Afghanistan expansion and he believes expansion.
Jury's out on that.
But then I watched live last night that hour-plus long, just volley after volley of truth against the scum and then to watch them lie and just before the speech in Phoenix and after the speech and just a wall of fraud.
Everything they say about him is what they're doing.
And it made my head spin.
An example was all over the Phoenix in national news, it was bikers rally against Trump.
And then they'd show shots from 300 yards away of bikers.
And I went, wait, those are bikers for Trump.
And then it was, but they wanted to make it look like everyone was against Trump.
They are going beyond any level of lies the Soviet Union or anybody ever else.
North Korean propaganda has nothing on this.
dan friesen
You know, in North Korea, when they're like, hey, those bikers, they don't like Kim Jong-un.
It turns out they do.
unidentified
That's, I mean, that's the next level.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I believe, from everything I can tell, there was an article that miss characterized a couple biker groups and said that some were against Trump when they were for.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, that proves it.
The mainstream media is all lies.
dan friesen
But it was also in the context of there being a lot of groups that were going to protest.
And there were some that were coming to support.
And so the article itself had to do with both sides of the demonstrations.
And, man, Alex only reads headlines, and the headline was fucked up.
jordan holmes
I don't care.
dan friesen
No, totally.
jordan holmes
This is the thing about that.
The size of his rally wasn't equal to the size of the protesters.
I don't care.
The size of the protesters wasn't equal to the size of the rally.
I don't care.
He should be gone.
dan friesen
Did you see that?
jordan holmes
Why aren't we getting rid of him?
unidentified
His rally size is zero on my list of who gives a fucks.
dan friesen
Did you see the guy who posts every time there's been a rally, he posts that image of the Cavaliers celebration?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's pretty funny.
dan friesen
And people just didn't realize.
These people who have, like, he presents it as this is the outside of the Trump rally when it's the Cleveland Cavaliers NBA finals celebration parade.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he's done it.
jordan holmes
Because he doesn't have the balls to use the Cubs World Series championship.
dan friesen
It's got to be blue hats.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
You got to have red hats.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But he's done it apparently for every rally.
And conservative ding-dongs still don't catch on.
Ann Coulter retweeted it.
jordan holmes
It's hilarious.
He has to be trolling these stupid people, right?
dan friesen
He is.
Yeah, of course.
I read an article about him that it was like, yeah, look, I'm just a sports guy.
If you look down my feed, you can tell I'm fucking with people.
So, yeah, I just love that.
So that's the only thing I care about in terms of his crowd sizes.
jordan holmes
Here's my question: Why did he say the jury's still out on Afghanistan?
dan friesen
Oh, because there was a little bit of a cut there.
I don't know why.
I think it was a little glitch in the recorder.
What he's saying is that Trump was doing bad stuff with increasing the troop levels.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But the jury is still out on what.
Okay.
Alex's narrative, he doesn't spell it out on this episode, but his narrative is that Trump is trolling people by saying he's going to raise the troop levels and then pull them all out.
He's trying to trick McMaster into a false sense of security, and then he's going to pull the rug out from under his globalist ass.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's why the jury's out.
jordan holmes
That's the craziest thing I've ever fucking heard in my entire life.
dan friesen
Hey, bye.
Jury, not out.
jordan holmes
What does that fucking mean?
dan friesen
Alex is really grasping at straws.
Number one, that's what it means.
Number two, it's just, I mean, he knows that it's bad.
That's what it really means.
Alex knows that the idea of sending more troops to Afghanistan is bad.
He can't support it because he has a long documented record of being against the war in Afghanistan, being against everything that the Bushes, Clintons, and Obama did in terms of wars.
And so if Trump follows the same path, he is going to be very exposed or he's going to have to be against him.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I don't think he's ready to jump off that train yet.
A lot of people keep saying, hey, is he going to, you know, Bannon's gone now?
Is Alex going to turn?
And my response constantly is no.
No.
Roger Stone's still on board.
Alex is going to still be on board.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
I don't think that there are any.
jordan holmes
Roger Stone is our real bellwether here, probably.
dan friesen
Yeah, and especially when you see Roger Stone turning on Bannon, that's when you know, like, oh, okay, we're just going to have a false system here.
Yeah.
But anyway, Alex says that he's going to go over all of the clips from Trump's rally.
jordan holmes
I'm assuming he does.
dan friesen
I'm going to break it down for you.
He plays two.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
He plays one twice.
jordan holmes
How long was the rally?
77?
dan friesen
77 minutes.
jordan holmes
Okay, so each of them about 37 and a half minutes.
dan friesen
You might be right if you were saying seconds.
He plays one where he says that the media is really fucking awful and they're the enemy.
He plays that clip twice.
And then, spoiler alert, Joe Arpaio is a guest on this episode.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
Joe Arpaio is on.
jordan holmes
He's not in prison?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
How is he not in prison?
dan friesen
He might have been Skyping in from prison.
jordan holmes
How is he not dead?
dan friesen
That's a better question.
But before he does the interview with Arpaio, he plays the clip where Trump is like, Do you guys like Sheriff Joe?
And the place went crazy.
So he plays those two clips, but he keeps saying, I'm going to play all of them.
We're going to get into it.
I'm going to do some analysis of it.
But he can't because I think he's drunk.
jordan holmes
Oh, all right.
Here we go.
Now we're in it.
dan friesen
I think Alex is either drunk or in the middle of a manic episode or both.
And I'm leaning towards both.
And you'll see the behavior on this episode is quite different than usual, even for 2017.
There is so much ranting, so much losing track of where he is.
And the way this episode ends is exactly like the March 30th episode where he was wasted off his ass, with the exception of he doesn't have Rob Dew sitting next to him in a jacket waiting to leave.
jordan holmes
So we're back to the four ways to learn.
dan friesen
We will be by the end of this, sort of.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
At least in tone.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But before we do, because it's a three-hour show, the buzz is going to be very different throughout.
And at this point, he's just good and worked up drunk, as I believe.
So here, he wants to talk about the globalists.
Of course.
They're bad.
Yeah, they're pretty bad.
And also, they're spider-like.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
It's just crazy.
I can't even respond anymore.
It's just a full-on, upside-down world where they're creating an entire false reality and then having for consensus.
You wonder why CNN, MSNBC, their shows have six, seven, eight, ten panelists on a time, all just going, we agree, we agree, we agree, the talking points put out, and they all just parrot in some groupthink for the weakest-minded people who tune in to somehow think this is consensus.
And then you see the folks that buy the propaganda, they are the dumbest slobs, the most helpless people.
dan friesen
So we'll get back to that in a second.
We'll get to the spider part.
But yeah, I agree.
That is a shitty presentation of the news.
Good point.
Good meaningless point that you're making, Alex.
But I would like to say that the exact same thing is being done by Trump with all of the bots.
There have been a couple of new studies that have come out following a lot of these bots.
And if you really look at it, it's pretty impressive.
The clear organization.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the one that made the rounds on Twitter that I saw that was the one that was, oh, it's all of this guy's tweets are from 8 to 8 or whatever.
dan friesen
Russia time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Almost as if he does it for a living.
dan friesen
Yeah, and that was part of an investigation that followed the people who have a name and then eight numbers after their name, which seems to be a naming protocol for a lot of these bots.
Yeah, there's a lot of really fucked up stuff.
But Alex is totally right, but about the wrong thing.
It's this idea of trying to manufacture the appearance of consensus and agreement, and people who fall for it are fucking stupid.
And that's very true of the people who think that these Trump bots are real.
And believe me, there are a ton of people who do.
jordan holmes
Well, you can see the things that, like, the telling one for me is when he said, it's the group think that attacks the weakest-minded people.
And you're like, oh, you're talking about you.
Oh, you're talking about you.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
dan friesen
That's another reason I think he's drunk.
jordan holmes
Well, and that's what they're always really, because I think that's the heart of so much of this is deep distrust for anyone who knows anything.
The idea of knowing something is offensive to people who think it should be something you feel.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, faith-based views of life versus empirical evidence.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Empirical evidence is always going to be more confident, certainly, than faith-based people, though faith-based people.
jordan holmes
No, that's the exact opposite.
dan friesen
No, but that's what I was going to say, is faith-based people will always feign the confidence that fact-based people have.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And it's always very frustrating.
jordan holmes
Well, the same people who strongly approve of Trump's presidency are the people who disagree or who deny climate change.
And that's not even Exxon.
dan friesen
They just released the Harvard study where they're like, oh, yeah, Exxon knew climate change was an issue in the fucking 70s and they paid so much money to switch everyone's thinking into faith-based thinking.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That, oh, no, it's about carbon taxes that Al Gore wants.
jordan holmes
That's what it is.
dan friesen
Yeah, of course.
unidentified
Al Gore.
jordan holmes
Al Gore?
Globalist.
dan friesen
Sneaky, spider-like globalists.
So let's get back to these spiders.
alex jones
And the globalists are in the WikiLeaks like spiders discussing moths or flies they've tied up in their webs.
Ah, this one will be delicious.
I hate the scum.
They don't taste as good as they used to.
I mean, it's basically like that.
I have a lot of my pretties tied up, but they're starting to struggle.
What do we do?
Well, have them fight with each other.
jordan holmes
That's the winner.
alex jones
And it's like demon spiders talking to each other.
And I'm like, God, we're ruled by this.
How the hell is this happening?
unidentified
So spiders discussing moths.
jordan holmes
Dude, check out this dude's camouflage.
This is bullshit, right?
I caught it immediately.
dan friesen
It just flew right into my neck.
jordan holmes
Fucking idiot.
unidentified
Right by a light, these guys.
jordan holmes
They think it's the moon.
dan friesen
Fly's a dumb-dumb.
unidentified
I don't know why my spider has a bit of a New Jersey in them.
dan friesen
I don't know.
But like, I mean, come on.
Come on.
I don't even know what to do with that.
jordan holmes
Well, I think that already I'm on your he's drunk tip because he's talking about spiders and then he's clearly doing the wicked witch from Wizard of Oz.
dan friesen
That's a strange jump.
Yeah.
But also, I have noticed that when he's in these moods, and whether it is just a harsh manic episode or he's drunk, there's a lot of projecting that's being done.
And the idea of tricking people and stuff like that, manufacturing consensus, that's stuff that he does a lot too.
And so when he's talking about trying to trick dumb people, he knows that that's what he's doing.
He can't possibly think his audience is smart.
There's literally no way.
He pitched Purple Penguins for six months plus.
jordan holmes
And he nailed it.
dan friesen
But there's no way that if he had faith in his audience, like I do, I've not met most of our listeners, but I have faith.
jordan holmes
Oh, I was going to say, I thought you said you had faith in his audience.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
unidentified
Arlington.
jordan holmes
He's going to work on your pronoun usage.
dan friesen
Pardon me.
jordan holmes
I don't have faith in your pronoun usage, Dan.
That's what's going on right now.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
What I'm saying is I'm confident that if anybody who's listening to this show looked up the Purple Penguin stuff, they would easily see that we are telling the truth about it.
And Alex Jones lied about it for six months.
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
Alex Jones is totally confident knowing that his audience will either just blindly trust whatever bullshit he's saying, or if they do look it up, they'll look it up on Zero Hedge or WorldNet Daily, and they'll just see, oh, there's confirmation that Alex is right.
Instead of digging a little bit deeper, finding the primary source.
So, I mean, he's projecting like crazy and doing spider voices to distract people from it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's jangling keys.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, basically.
And also, he ends up fake crying a little bit later, which is fun.
jordan holmes
I'm excited about the fake cry.
I haven't heard a good fake cry in a while.
dan friesen
Well, here's a good fake lie.
That's a real lie.
This goes into Alex's victim complex.
This next clip.
alex jones
And then there is such a hunger.
I mean, they've got a $10 million contract out.
We've confirmed.
jordan holmes
With who or what?
alex jones
To news.
To pay.
They pay grants to the New York Times and CNN and all these things.
They pay writers to write stories lying about.
And they can't find anything.
dan friesen
We have.
alex jones
And when they make stuff up, it blows up in their face.
And I just, you realize they hate me because I see through them, you see through them.
And I'm here letting you know you're not insane when you see their wall of lies.
You know there's other people that recognize it as well.
We have solidarity alone.
They want you desperate.
They force you through peer pressure to join.
jordan holmes
I'm here to tell you you're not insane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The first thing, obviously, is that's if that, first of all, it's not true of the $10 million contract thing.
But if it is, that's foolish money spent.
Give us some of that money.
Hey, globalists, hit up your boys.
jordan holmes
I also like the indignation he has towards paying writers.
Right.
dan friesen
I think that that's trying to harken back to the Google delisting narrative that he had a few months back.
I think it's going back to that because I think that was $10 million too in his narrative.
But anyway, it's all bullshit.
jordan holmes
Well, they confirmed it.
dan friesen
It's bullshit.
jordan holmes
They confirmed it.
dan friesen
But also, I love that he's like, the $10 million contract to news.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was $10 million contract to news.
You know, New York Times.
dan friesen
We're going to write this check up to news.
jordan holmes
And the movie blank check.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Except with no Tone Loke.
Tone Lokes, not great.
Never mind.
I take it back.
I was going to say he's awesome.
He's not.
jordan holmes
Surf Ninjas.
He's the best.
dan friesen
He wrote a song about the date rape drug.
jordan holmes
That was not great.
That was not great.
I will admit.
dan friesen
That is not funky.
No.
jordan holmes
It is not cold.
dan friesen
It's pretty cold.
It's a little Medina.
So Alex is also, this is more projection.
The idea that they want you to feel alone and stuff like that, because he obviously benefits from people isolating themselves.
Like, if you go into normal society and just regular people and start saying things that you heard on InfoWars, like you believe them, people are going to naturally get away from you.
They're going to be like, this is a weirdo.
I don't want to talk to this person.
And that feeds the isolation.
And, I mean, we've talked about this in the past.
It's cult stuff.
It's just he's doing that and saying that this is what the news wants you to feel.
The news wants you to feel like no one else likes Trump.
But you're not alone.
You got us.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is one of the recurring themes throughout all of the alt-right.
And throughout Gamergate, throughout all of this stuff, is people who are isolated.
And that is always the narrative for why the internet turned out to be bad.
Is all of these people who are isolated wound up finding each other and then creating that feedback loop of horrible bigotry and racism that is really built out of their own insecurities.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Their own fears of women, of colored people, of their bodies, of spiders, the Wizard of Oz.
dan friesen
You think that came, Alex's rant came from his insecure fear of spiders.
I mean, look, if he's afraid of spiders, good on him.
I understand.
Spiders are weird.
They are really weird.
jordan holmes
Spiders are our friends, Dan.
dan friesen
No, they're not.
jordan holmes
Let me tell you about a little story.
dan friesen
Got to go to the next clip.
jordan holmes
It's about some pig.
It's about some pig.
And he was some pig, Dan.
dan friesen
So this next clip.
jordan holmes
And no one would have known about it.
dan friesen
This next clip.
jordan holmes
If it weren't for the wicked witch of Wizard of Oz, the spider.
dan friesen
This next clip, Alex really expresses basically just how excited he is to be relevant.
jordan holmes
That sounds dead on.
dan friesen
I don't think he intends for that to be what comes out of his mouth, but it is.
alex jones
And I don't want anything to do with these people.
We have the epic excerpts coming up.
And it's just, I can't turn away.
Plus, I'm right in the middle of it.
I'm like the number two enemy now.
Bannon has receded.
I'm definitely the number two target.
It's just surreal.
I mean, literal goblin creatures attacking.
I mean.
jordan holmes
Fake laugh.
dan friesen
Sure.
Wow.
Literal goblins.
jordan holmes
Literal goblin creatures?
dan friesen
Literal goblin creatures.
Now, hold on to that because it's going to come back.
jordan holmes
Well, if there are literal goblin creatures, that is all I would be talking about for days.
Are you shitting me?
I saw a literal goblin.
I would shoehorn that into any and every conversation that I've seen.
dan friesen
Just at a cocktail party, everyone's like, Oh, absolutely.
What do you do for a living?
jordan holmes
Oh, I just saw this documentary on little goblin creatures?
No?
Then shut the fuck up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Look, I need to make a documentary about these little goblin creatures so everyone will fucking talk about it at cocktail parties, but I can't because I can't get funding.
Can I please have $10 million contracts?
jordan holmes
Make it out to news.
unidentified
Hello, Jimmy News.
dan friesen
So, yeah.
jordan holmes
Have you heard about these little goblin creatures?
dan friesen
So, I mean, all that is is him just being like, I'm important.
I love it.
I love it that people are talking about me, which kind of makes you think that no matter how bad an idea it is to hitch his team to Trump's wagon, because make no mistake, Alex is pulling this thing along.
It's not the other way around, really, I don't think.
But even as much of the bad idea as that is, he loves it.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
Because it's attention.
Even if it's negative, he loves it.
jordan holmes
The idea of being the number two enemy of anyone is such an attractive proposition if you're obsessed with obtaining any kind of power or influence.
dan friesen
And he's delusional.
Sessions is much higher.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Let's say.
jordan holmes
Holy shit.
dan friesen
Or Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
The number of enemies.
dan friesen
He's not even the number one enemy at Infowars, quite frankly.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
I mean, Roger Stone is much more of a target than him.
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I think without.
dan friesen
Dude, people are talking about him being investigated by Mueller.
All right.
Like, he's part of that.
Alex Jones is on the wall, like, way far out on the periphery, if he's even in the conversation.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
Anyway, that's a debate for another time.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know what to do with this clip.
I can't really set it up.
I don't know what to do with it.
So enjoy it.
jordan holmes
So play it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
You've got to be lowered first before you can even be on the level to have this done to you.
And the gate through which you entered into this evil is people seeking power and to not have fear and to be enlightened and be as gods and be on power trips and be so positive.
But it's only the image of the universe you have in your mind, the image of God that you can begin to understand you are not that thing that you can sense.
And the devil says, oh, you are that thing here.
I have a path for you, and you will attain it.
But all you will attain is falling, not rising.
jordan holmes
Is this E.E. Cummings?
So much depends on the premise of the.
alex jones
How do I cover all this?
The epic rampage against tyranny.
jordan holmes
That's not E.E. Cummings.
I know that.
alex jones
Not President Trump.
Beautiful.
dan friesen
So, I mean, that long pause is just like him staring like, what do I do?
jordan holmes
What did he just say?
Try and explain to me.
I wrote down as much of that as I can, and I have no idea what it was he said.
dan friesen
So the beginning of it, the premise is.
jordan holmes
William Carlos Williams, by the way.
So much depends on the rest of it.
Don Wong.
Major, I have to get that out.
dan friesen
Sure.
Otherwise, you couldn't sleep.
jordan holmes
Otherwise, I could not sleep.
I'd just be staring at Twitter, refreshing, like, who's going to fucking call me out because I'm going to come at him.
That's going to come.
dan friesen
Come get some.
I know.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
I know it's Don Juan.
The beginning of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, come on.
E.E. Cummings is upside down.
Oh, fuck me.
Now I can't remember it.
unidentified
Oh, no.
Fuck me.
dan friesen
Oh, Jesus.
You're going to be taken to the woodshed for this.
So the beginning part is about that narrative that he has that in order for the globalists to attack you, they first have to bring you down and dumb you down and make you impotent and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, lowered onto the level to have this done to you.
dan friesen
And then that's for have it done to you is not clear.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
There's context clues we can take.
I guess destroy you.
I'm guessing.
I don't know.
So then, what else?
What other questions do you have?
jordan holmes
So it's done to you by people seeking power as of gods.
There's a bunch of that, but it was just synonyms for that kind of situation.
And it's the, in the image of God, you can begin to see yourself that you are not like that.
And then Satan says, you are like that.
unidentified
And then there is no follow-up to that.
dan friesen
I'm starting to suspect.
jordan holmes
I don't know what the image of or is on not.
dan friesen
Here's what I want to believe because I'm kind of into it, and it would be awesome if Alex was into this too.
But I'm thinking maybe what he's saying is that we aren't our fleshy bodies or something like that.
And the devil wants you to think that you are your fleshy body, but what you are is actually a spark of the divine that rests within you, and that is your soul or whatever.
jordan holmes
I'm sure he wasn't saying anyone lived in a pretty how town with goddamn E.E. Cummings.
I remembered it.
dan friesen
All right.
So the no, I think it's, I think, now I might be bringing my own stuff to this, but it sounds like it's almost like a Gnostic thing.
It's almost like the devil that he's talking about is the demiurge that created the physical world that we're trapped in.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And if you want to go that route, then prison planet might not even be about the globalists.
It could be like literal pleasure.
The prison thing is a Gnostic idea.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And if that's true, holy shit.
jordan holmes
We just broke the real story here.
dan friesen
It's not, though.
It's not because even.
jordan holmes
No, because this is a drunken ramble that has nothing to do with fucking anything.
He doesn't know what he's fucking talking about.
He's just stringing together whatever words are coming out of his mouth.
These are half-thoughts that are just like, it feels like he is having a manic episode because he is stringing along all of these words, which are utterly incapable of keeping up with his thoughts.
dan friesen
Boy, do they sound like he's trying to get to something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
It really sounds like he has an idea.
And maybe he has the kernel of one.
But be that as it may, it takes a turn.
And here's this next quote.
alex jones
We're just getting ready to figure out all the violations we've been under, who's best to go after here with the best case.
Not because I'm litigious, skip this break, but because I absolutely have to do this, and other people have to do it.
And the lawsuits are being started by others right now, too.
And Congress is moving.
And why are they so scared?
jordan holmes
Why?
alex jones
They're so scared because Joe Arpaio is coming on to give us the first big interview today, which I didn't even ask for, the first exclusive I'm honored.
jordan holmes
Oh, does he get hit by a few people?
alex jones
I just couldn't believe that we stood up for him when even Fox News wasn't covering that he'd been convicted and was going to spend years in prison.
jordan holmes
Is it because he's a monster?
alex jones
He's charged by a federal Obama judge and it's not a big deal overall that we got the info to Trump, and I'm just going to leave it at that and others did as well.
jordan holmes
Federal Obama judge.
alex jones
I don't even know if I want Arpai to come on and thank us for all this because they can give the inside baseball because it gives the media too much of a hissy fit, but who cares?
The point is, is that it isn't about even the pardon for Arpaio.
That's the right thing to do.
Trump did not even know that this was happening because they had him so isolated.
And when he finally learned about it from Infowars.com and Drudge Report, this is directly from the president.
And then folks had a chance to talk to him.
He called Arpaio and told him where he learned about it and said, my God, I didn't know this was going on for months.
We're going to get the lawyers to look at a pardon for you.
And it almost happened last night.
And we told folks he was going to talk about it last night.
And I don't want to get into inside baseball because this isn't real panic stuff about back channels, the president, and all the rest of it.
I mean, they talk about it on Fox.
dan friesen
It'll talk about it later.
alex jones
It's a lot of armed services committee hearings in Congress.
The president knows who's fighting for this republic and who is fearless like he is.
Who is committed?
When I say fearless, I mean fearlessness.
jordan holmes
Psychopathic murder.
alex jones
I'm not good enough for this.
dan friesen
He fears he's not good enough for this.
Now, I think federal.
jordan holmes
I want blood to stream from Arpeo's nostrils.
unidentified
It'd be great.
jordan holmes
And eyes.
dan friesen
Spoiler.
jordan holmes
And mouth.
dan friesen
It doesn't on age.
jordan holmes
And just every essence of his is just drained out of him.
I want him dead.
I want him dead.
Legally?
dan friesen
I wanted to go over the stuff about how awful Joe Arpaio is, but the last time we tried to do that on the show, you almost threw up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, he's a true, he's a true fucking monster.
If he is pardoned, fucking pardon John Wayne Gacy.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Like, who fucking cares at this point?
Laws aren't real.
Let's just, only the strong survive, and murderers win everything always.
Fuck John Arpaio.
dan friesen
Suffice it to say.
jordan holmes
Or whatever the fuck his goddamn Arpaio fucking name is.
I hope he dies.
dan friesen
Suffice it to say that he presided over the Maricopa County Police Department and was shown to, I believe the quote was, demonstrate the worst pattern of racial profiling in our country's history.
He was told repeatedly by judges that he cannot racially profile people, and he consistently refused to change any of his practices.
Beyond that, he's a murderer.
He deprived people of human rights.
jordan holmes
He's a murderer.
dan friesen
In prison, people who were waiting for trials.
He would give people moldy food and basically unlivable conditions that they had.
jordan holmes
People are in prison for 20 years for a gram of Coke.
And Arpaio is a fucking mass murderer.
He is a serial killer.
dan friesen
Serial killer.
jordan holmes
He is a serial killer.
dan friesen
No, because the deaths didn't come close to each other.
That's sort of a definition of serial killer.
It doesn't have to be like within a patch.
jordan holmes
No way.
dan friesen
I think it has to be within a patch of time.
Okay.
Fine.
He's responsible, much like Sheriff Clark, for tons of negligence and beyond negligence-related deaths in his facilities.
And beyond that, just for fun, if you want to go listen to the Dennis Montgomery episode, we talked about a time that he and his officers got caught for entrapment because they convinced someone to create a pipe bomb, a fake pipe bomb attack on Joe Arpaio in order to boost his chances of re-election.
Entrapment is incredibly difficult to prove, but it turned out that the officers of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Department had bought the bomb equipment and had there were records of their conversations telling this guy to do it.
And this kid ended up serving like nine years in prison because of it before he got free.
jordan holmes
That's usually a sign of a serial killer is they think they're smarter than law enforcement.
And when you are law enforcement, they are law enforcement.
They didn't realize that there was a higher power beyond them.
dan friesen
I'm smarter than myself.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fucking monster.
dan friesen
So the other thing is Obama federal judge sounds great, but I would like Obama.
jordan holmes
Federal Obama judge.
dan friesen
I would like a small claims Obama judge.
That's what I would like to see.
jordan holmes
That's not too bad.
dan friesen
That would be a daytime show.
jordan holmes
Like a Judge Judy.
Yes.
But a small claims federal Obama judge.
dan friesen
But globalist.
So the other thing.
jordan holmes
Do you submit to lowering yourself so I can do it to you?
dan friesen
Is he just talking about backing it up?
So the other thing I needed to bring up in that clip is that Alex says that Donald Trump called Joe Arpaio when he found out what was going on.
jordan holmes
From InfoWars and Drudge.
dan friesen
Yes, he learned about, well, the narrative, as Alex would tell it, is that Jerome Corsi wrote an article about it, and Drudge reposted it.
Donald Trump heard about it, and he called Joe Arpaio and said, we're going to take care of this, you know, whatever.
When Joe Arpaio is on the show, he flatly contradicts that.
Not in a correcting way, but he literally says, Donald Trump didn't call me.
Nobody from his campaign called me.
So Alex is just making that up.
jordan holmes
Alex is just lying.
Yeah.
Even psychopathic serial killer Joe Arpaio, which is the only way that he should be referred to from here on out, is unwilling to go along with that lie.
dan friesen
Yeah, because he has every reason to be like, yes, absolutely, Trump did call me.
He spends most of the interview, which we're not going to talk about too much, just sucking Trump's dick on InfoWars.
He's just talking about how I'll never leave him.
He's the greatest.
Great.
All this bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, he can't.
dan friesen
There was only one really funny part where Alex is like, what are you, 85?
I was like, why do you have to bring that up?
He's like, you know what?
You're wizened.
jordan holmes
You're wizened.
Shriveled.
dan friesen
Also, fun in there.
Alex is claiming he's going to start suing people.
That will also come back a little bit later in the episode.
jordan holmes
That also won't happen.
dan friesen
So this next clip is a little bit of a longer rant.
The spirit gets in him.
And I think what starts the rant is thinking about having kids.
I think.
I believe that that's what gets stuck in his craw and why he ends up launching on this.
I believe it's like four minutes of just there's there was no way I could cut it at any point.
Like it was just like, well, here goes.
He's just rolling.
But I want to remind you that the reason he probably feels like he needs to have kids, because he does discuss it in this clip in the context of like Islamicists and stuff like that, is because he wants more white children.
jordan holmes
He wants more white children.
dan friesen
They talk about birth rates and stuff like that.
Not in this clip, but he does a lot of white nationalists.
Yes.
So when he talks about having outbred.
But when he talks about having more kids and stuff like that, it's easy to fall into the trap of thinking like, oh, you just wanted a big family.
But that's not what he's talking about.
He's talking about a responsibility to have more kids, which is what white nationalists are.
jordan holmes
So that the white race is not diminished and does not become the minority that they so fear.
dan friesen
Yep.
So here is the beginning of the long clip.
We'll just pause it if we need to.
alex jones
I don't say that to sound unforgivable night.
I mean, I feel absolutely not strong enough, and I don't have enough will to beat them quicker because these people are absolutely evil.
They literally hate you and your family.
There are a bunch of pedophiles running it.
That's another reason they like Islam is because pedophilia is legal in it.
I cannot believe how desperate straits we're in.
And people say, well, why do you keep having kids then?
Because I'm doubling down.
I'm putting my ancestors didn't give up.
I'm not giving up.
My kids aren't giving up.
And I'm just going to just, I love them so much.
The more children I have, the stronger I get because I'm fighting for them.
And the light in their eyes gives me strength and connection right to God.
And I'm never giving up.
I'm never giving up.
I'm going to get stronger.
In fact, I can't even handle the strength and discernment I'm getting day by day.
It is so humbling to be moved closer to God and under God's wings and then to be able to see the enemy even that much clearer.
It is just good and evil right and wrong.
That's all this is.
It's spiritual.
The devil's real.
This whole thing's satanic.
World government, microchips, genetic engineering.
It's already here, people.
Move, bitch.
unidentified
Get out the way.
alex jones
You're not going to get away from it by joining it or trying to hide.
The only way to get out.
I'm here with my children.
They basically built this modern civilization as a tomb to bury us alive in, and there's one door to get out of.
And the globalist and his minions, the devil, are standing in that door.
And they know we've got God on our side and we can get out of the door if we ask God for the help and then take action.
jordan holmes
Like a clown car.
alex jones
Don't worry about your body, folks.
You worry about who can get your soul forever.
They want you to be with them forever in their ugliness and their misery.
And they know it.
And they're conscious and they understand it.
And they hate you.
And they are sworn to destroy you.
This is not the time to hedge bets, ladies and gentlemen.
This is the time to get on your knees and ask God to lead God and direct you.
This is the time.
Unless you're threatened with death, in which case, which side you're on, because it's an absolute infinity fact.
jordan holmes
All right.
We got a new level of comment.
alex jones
Take a look where we're at, folks.
Bible's dead on.
It wants one thing to get you to grasp and to take you down.
We're going through it.
dan friesen
This bitch is drunk.
alex jones
We're going through it.
jordan holmes
Getting in it.
alex jones
And the devil is going to be behind us again.
And you can already see we're pulling away.
Our hearts, our minds, our souls.
And the enemy is just, no!
jordan holmes
That contradicts what you said earlier.
No!
You said you were winning, and now you're saying that you're losing.
alex jones
We are the authority.
You will bow to us.
You will submit to us.
dan friesen
The score is never clear.
jordan holmes
But you should be on your knees.
alex jones
You're not going to beat the devil.
jordan holmes
You're going to have to submit to you.
alex jones
You're going to beat the devil with God's will.
And you're not going to find that will at these little satanic churches run by these little glitter bugs up there that are scared to death.
And at night time get down on their knees to Satan because they're so scared of the devil.
dan friesen
I think we do have bingo.
alex jones
You're going to find God by asking God to come into your heart.
You want to beat the enemy?
That's where it is.
You want to be free of this scum?
Because this isn't like some football game or some competitive thing or some pissing contest where we're trying to be the guys running things and not the liberals.
jordan holmes
No, that is what you're trying to be.
alex jones
This is survival.
This is survival.
And so.
jordan holmes
What did glitter bugs do to you?
alex jones
You've got to say how you threaten me and my family.
I'm going to put more into the world for me to love.
unidentified
What?
Okay.
alex jones
With God.
I'm going to hang myself out there right there for you because we've transcended you cowards.
Because that's who you are at the end of the day: a bunch of scum, a bunch of anti-human trash that hates success and hates beauty and hates Genesis.
jordan holmes
But they're glitter bugs, so they love you.
alex jones
You're lovers of death.
What's Genesis?
Life.
All its beauty.
All its permutations explode.
Throughout the stars.
Throughout time and space.
dan friesen
You probably almost threw up right there.
There's like a weird term.
alex jones
The little separations between all the rest of life.
The flickers in and out.
The pulse.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
The great equalizer.
jordan holmes
What is that?
alex jones
Because the evil doesn't transmit forward.
It tries to.
jordan holmes
I don't know what that is.
The evil doesn't transmit forward?
dan friesen
No idea.
alex jones
It can only burn out wherever it gets a hold and sit there cold for eons.
dan friesen
That's Lovecraft.
That's straight up like what is dead may not die.
alex jones
I promise I'm going to play all the clips when I come back.
dan friesen
Even I forgot that that was a cambridge.
jordan holmes
That was the alternate name.
That was the working title of that Kevin Spacey movie.
The evil cannot transmit it forward.
dan friesen
Oh, pay forward.
unidentified
Pay forward.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
They wisely shortened it.
dan friesen
Okay.
I thought you meant like K-PAX was called.
unidentified
I promise I'm going to play all the clips.
dan friesen
That'd be great.
If I were judging that as like a wrestler doing a promo, I would say you need to tighten it up.
I would say you're getting off track a little bit.
I know you got a big match with The Undertaker coming up.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But you're just going off on too many derivations.
We can't have you in the ring for five minutes.
You can't handle it.
You got to give it Alex Gibson.
jordan holmes
I'm guessing his ring work would be pretty well, but I doubt his promos would.
dan friesen
Alex, get a teleprompter.
At least, like, don't script it out.
Just get bullet points.
jordan holmes
That would work.
dan friesen
That might help.
jordan holmes
He has bullet points.
It's all the shit he has on his desk.
He just doesn't understand any of it.
dan friesen
Those are just headlines.
That's not bullet points.
jordan holmes
What other bullet points would his teleprompter have?
dan friesen
If I were trying to organize what just happened.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Now, this is a great game.
dan friesen
I'm going to have a difficult time doing it.
But I would say bullet point The Devil.
jordan holmes
Is that number one?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Number one with the bullet, the devil.
dan friesen
Sub-bullet point, the nature thereof.
Right.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
Sub-bullet point under that, the door that we got to get through, that the devil's standing in the middle of.
jordan holmes
I'm a big fan of that door.
Sub-point under that?
dan friesen
I can't fucking organize that.
jordan holmes
Get the devil behind you again.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, he just screams out all the time, like, get behind me, Satan, or something like that.
Yeah, that's classic.
I don't know.
That's a lot of rambly nonsense that he just wants to try and amp people up and make people think he actually feels conviction.
I really think that that's what's going on there.
jordan holmes
That's whackadoo.
What?
dan friesen
Also, I'm going to start making bingo cards for our podcast.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're going to have to.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm going to start posting those.
I don't know if I'll be able to do one for this episode, but if you want to.
jordan holmes
We're going to have to get there.
Yeah, absolutely.
That'll be our next thing we can send out to Policy Walker.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Put it on the Patreon.
Guys, feel free to donate for bingo cards.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can download your own PDF.
It costs us roughly zero cents, and it costs you time.
Oh, that's true.
dan friesen
Time, baby.
jordan holmes
To make a bingo card of Alex?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fair.
dan friesen
You've got to come up with good things.
No free spaces.
Because Alex Jones does not believe in a handout.
jordan holmes
No, the center space is just prosperity.
dan friesen
That's what the center space is.
jordan holmes
That's got to be what it is.
dan friesen
That's a free space.
Or globalists.
Chick.
So that's not the only rant that we're going to be covering on this episode.
But that's sort of the marquee headlining rant, I believe.
Because he's just got nothing.
He's got nothing.
I think he's drunk.
I'm not sure.
Might just be hungover, something like that.
But he's got this interview.
He has an interview with Steve Pieczenik in the second hour, and then he's got Joe Arpaio in the third hour.
And he's like, I got to fill this first hour, and I got nothing.
I'm just going to yell about the devil.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Good.
jordan holmes
That's a solid strategy.
dan friesen
It's not bad.
It seems to be one he uses a lot, but I. Hey, man, go with what you know.
jordan holmes
If it works, fucking write it out.
dan friesen
People seem to listen, and they seem to enjoy it, so maybe we should scream about the devil for the first hour of the program from now on.
That or bingo cards?
jordan holmes
What do you want?
dan friesen
One of the two.
jordan holmes
What do you have to say about the devil?
If we were to try and scream about the devil, Dan, what would you go with?
dan friesen
One time I'm at the devil.
You were mighty slick.
jordan holmes
So we're just going to do karaoke for the first hour then?
Is that what you're saying?
dan friesen
I can't remember the rest of the lyrics to Blood, Sweat, and Tears.
Great song, Heidi, Heidi, Ho, That Old Sweet Roll.
Where he talks about the devil.
But one of my big karaoke songs back when I used to do karaoke a lot was called And When I Die by Blood, Sweat, and Tears.
Just great horn rock, but at the end, he freaks out.
The lead singer's freaking out.
But look out, children!
Here comes the devil!
He's right behind you!
And whenever I was doing karaoke, I'd run up to someone in the audience and scream it in their face.
The devil is right behind you!
All right, Dan.
Just to add to the theatricality, I would fall down on the stage.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
I was great at karaoke.
unidentified
You are very good at karaoke.
dan friesen
That's what happens when you do karaoke at Roadhouse bars in central Missouri that have really cheap booze.
unidentified
That'll do it.
dan friesen
Drink a lot of slow gin and hang out with hillbillies.
But be that as it may.
One thing I liked about a lot of those hillbillies, like my boy L.A. Monte out there.
jordan holmes
I said it's a great transition coming.
dan friesen
Central Missouri.
I can feel it in the L.A. Monte.
My boy Moose, that I worked with at Subway, just got out of the joint and then started working at Subway with me.
He used to call me baby boy all the time.
jordan holmes
Is any of this real?
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
Are you making all of this up?
dan friesen
This is all real.
These are some of my Hillbilly friends from the past.
And one of the things that I liked about them was that they were country, but they were not racist.
I enjoyed that about them.
Alex Jones is not country, and he is racist.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
In this next clip, Alex tries to explain why he thinks people think he's racist, and he's wrong.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy, he should not try and explain that.
alex jones
They said Alex Jones is deeply racist.
This is a quote from MSNBC, the talking point they've said many times, because he says Obamacare isn't free, and he says there's penalties.
They go, well, that's what these deeply racist people do.
They just make up lies about our black president.
These are quotes.
dan friesen
Those aren't quotes.
But, you know, just go back to any one of our episodes and see all the racist shit he says.
We don't need to go over it here.
Or go to knowledgefight.com slash racism and find some of the great hits of Alex Jones's because he always complains that no one has clips.
They always just make claims about him.
We got clips.
unidentified
We got clips out the ass.
jordan holmes
I like his new trick.
Maybe it's or at least new to me.
Instead of saying that's what MSNBC is talking about or anything like that, he switches into talking points.
So it always, so it's like Soundbite was in the 90s or whatever, where it's almost a disqualifying term before it's said.
If you say, oh, it's talking points, that means that it's strategized and it's focus grouped and all of these things.
It can be true, though, but the connotation of the phrase makes you feel like, oh, well, they're just making it up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Or they're just, which is crazy because what, I mean, like, how can you describe purple penguins or anything like that as anything but a talking point?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Anything but, you know, the Confederate flag is about history or, you know, all of these different waypoints that we've had over the years of his are all the same definition of talking points.
Yeah, talking points.
dan friesen
It doesn't really mean anything other than a thing that you talk about.
And it turns out a lot of people are on the same tip for a while.
Because the way, I mean, we talk about hot take culture and shit like that.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Like what we've descended into now.
Everyone's into one thing for a week and then we move on to the next thing.
jordan holmes
If we get to a week, it's an amazing thing.
dan friesen
Everything becomes talking points just kind of naturally because everyone's talking about this thing and, you know, through people having arguments on Twitter and stuff, there's almost naturally just conclusions that you come to that become like, oh, this is what everyone's saying.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I find that a little bit distasteful, too, but I don't think I have the same perspective on it Alex does because I don't think it's global that's doing that.
I just think it's slightly hive-mindy.
I think it's just a lot of people are kind of dumb too, so they see something they like and it becomes their opinion.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I don't know.
I think it's more complicated.
jordan holmes
I like his understanding of what MSNBC was calling him a racist for.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's because I'm saying that Obamacare doesn't work and there's going to be penalties.
That's why they think I'm racist.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Alex, baby.
Come on.
Come on.
Even you got to know that's not true.
dan friesen
You could come up with 10 better things that he said about Obama himself that could be like, oh, this is more racist than what you're saying about Obamacare.
But again, that's just his way of deflecting for his dumbass fans who are like, oh, I'm not racist.
That's why they think I'm racist.
That's why everyone says it.
That's not true.
jordan holmes
It's just a talking point to say I'm racist.
dan friesen
So speaking of another racist.
jordan holmes
It's the same way that it's a talking point for me to say white people are better and black people are more racist than us.
dan friesen
And white people deserve attention and we're the only thing that matters in the world.
Yeah.
Speaking of another racist, Roger Stone.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex brings him up in one good context.
And again, this is, you know, it's our tradition that we give it up when even these monsters agree on good stuff.
Roger Stone and Alex Jones are both in favor of legalization of marijuana.
Good.
And so this clip begins with Alex talking about Roger Stone wanting to push for legalization of marijuana.
He believes that if Trump gets on board with that, it will make everyone love Trump, which I got to tell you, it won't.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Some people will be like, great, you did what Obama started.
But I don't think people will just back.
jordan holmes
Instead of destroying what Obama did.
dan friesen
Right.
I love Tree so much that I'm going to look over all this other stuff you've done that's horrible, banning trans people from the military unilaterally for no reason.
jordan holmes
That one's one of the most bananas things.
dan friesen
I love that he did that on Twitter.
Then everyone was like, why are you doing this?
Even everyone in the army or in the services.
And then he's like, I'm going to double down.
I'm not going to listen to that advice.
What a dick.
jordan holmes
I mean, what else is that but just like, eh, let's do something.
Let's just throw something out there today.
dan friesen
Let's poke the bee's nest.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's all.
It's nothing.
dan friesen
Yeah, but unfortunately it has a very serious effect on a lot of people.
And like for us to say it's a distraction, even if that is the intention of it, it feels bad for us to say that because it does minimize the effect it has on people.
jordan holmes
Well, the point that has become cliché now is that if you're not willing to serve in the military, who are you to say that anybody should or shouldn't?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, if they're talking point.
If they volunteer, you know, fucking get out of their way and the people who've worked with them all say, great, they're here.
I'm here.
We're all on the same.
dan friesen
We're used to it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's fine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And so.
dan friesen
When I say we're used to it, I was trying to parrot or mirror the chant.
Not like I'm saying we need to be used to something.
jordan holmes
No, I think we all got it.
dan friesen
Let me get to this Roger Stone clip because I hate this dude and I want to talk about him.
alex jones
And if you decriminalize marijuana, and if Trump actually delivers on Obama's promises to do it, and if he can get sessions to worry about the heroin and the prescription drugs and all the serious stuff, that will turn the tide 100% for Trump.
Regardless of what you think of that, you read this article, why was he banned on Fox, CNN, MSNBC?
dan friesen
Roger.
alex jones
We first broke that over a year and a half ago.
It was later confirmed.
There was an actual ban by the Hillary campaign in the WikiLeaks saying, shut down Roger Stone.
He's the MVP.
Shut down Alex Jones.
We've already got a ban on Jones, but get a ban on Roger Stone.
As if I need to go on your shows to have viewers.
When I go on your shows, then you get viewers.
Every time I go, I'm on a race.
jordan holmes
Megan Kelly would just go.
alex jones
It goes from having a million viewers to 10 million viewers that day, and then it's all over the news for weeks.
And number one story of the year, Piers Morgan.
Yeah, they had votes.
That was the number one rated thing, most covered media event of 2013.
They know I'm explosive.
Not bragging, it's a fact.
dan friesen
You're bragging.
But I don't care about all that other stuff.
I don't give a shit about Piers Morgan or what his hottest story was because you're lying about Roger Stone totally and just for fun.
I'd like to remind everyone that the reason that Roger Stone was banned from these networks is that he called Anna Navarro and Roland Martin, who's a former contributor of CNN, quota hires.
He also said that Anna Navarro was borderline retarded.
He called her an entitled diva bitch and said she was dumber than dog shit.
Beyond that, he said that Fox News contributor Alan West is an arrogant know-it-all Negro.
Roger Stone also mocked contributor Charles Krauthammer, who was paralyzed in a driving accident when he was in medical school by telling him to, quote, stand the fuck up.
He suggested he wanted to bash Bill O'Reilly's head in.
He called Fox News contributor Herman Kane Mandingo.
And just to round it out with some sexism, he said that Megan Kelly has, quote, a nice set of cans.
So this is why he's banned.
Because he's horrible.
He's a horrible person.
jordan holmes
Those are good reasons to ban someone from TV.
dan friesen
And that's not even, like, I don't even have the full list.
jordan holmes
The amazing thing is he's still not banned from Twitter.
dan friesen
Yeah, for all the abuse he's throwing at you.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Especially women.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Twitter's garbage.
dan friesen
And he's been on television and called people like other, I don't remember all the people, but he's called people mediocre Negroes and stuff like that.
He seems to love calling black people Negroes.
He seems to love calling women bitches and just mocking people for, you know.
jordan holmes
He's a monster.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He likes going on TV and reveling in his monstrous behavior.
dan friesen
Yeah, his shitheadedness.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But no, he's an all-star.
That's why they got to ban him.
It's in the WikiLeaks.
So this next clip is awesome because this is what I would call a sales pitch head fake.
Okay.
This is like Alex, like you really think that he's about to go to a sales pitch and then he doesn't.
jordan holmes
Now that's a new one.
That's a new one.
Usually it's the whiplash pitch.
This time he's doing the crossover.
dan friesen
This is like, this caught me off guard.
He would have crossed me over for sure.
This is Iverson level in terms of a crossover.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There you go.
alex jones
That's the level of deceitful, rat-like creatures we're dealing with.
Now, right now.
jordan holmes
Chimeras.
alex jones
That's just one little stack I mentioned here for you.
But I want to get into what happened last night because it's so incredibly important.
Briefly, yesterday's special that was supposed to be in is going to go one more day because as is normal, we are skeleton crewed many areas trying to up our crew right now desperately, but watching new shows.
We're very busy.
We're extending the sales one more day because I've got to have a sales meeting at the show and decide the best products we've got, the best deals we can do.
dan friesen
So first of all, I think we talked over the head fake because it's a subtle thing, I think.
I want to go back to try and make my point.
But also, you see there that he's always extending specials.
That's another important point.
So right here, when he says these are terrible, awful people, and then there's a little bit of a briefly.
That's when he's going to get into the sales pitch, but he doesn't.
And then he gets into the sales pitch.
That's the part that's remarkable to me.
Just listen to this beginning like 15 seconds again and tell me you don't think that when he actually says, all right, let's get to tonight's clip or last night's clips, that's where the sales pitch is supposed to go.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Level of deceitful, rat-like creatures we're dealing with.
Now, right now.
dan friesen
Right here.
Right here.
alex jones
That's just one little stack I mentioned here for you.
But I want to get into what happened last night because it's so incredibly important.
jordan holmes
Okay.
You're right.
I got you.
dan friesen
Then the sales pitch.
jordan holmes
Briefly.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Yesterday.
dan friesen
All right, who cares?
jordan holmes
There we go.
I got you.
dan friesen
My point is he's zigzagged.
He zigzagged in a, I don't care.
Look, I'm so bored with this dumbass.
jordan holmes
And then if you think he's going to zig, and then you think he's going to zag?
dan friesen
That's when he's ogs.
jordan holmes
That's when he's ogs.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm so bored with his dumbass that I'm just picking these tiny little moments.
Like, ooh, that's weird.
That should show you where my head's at.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That one was subtle for me.
dan friesen
Yeah, okay.
Maybe it is for everybody.
I apologize if I wasted your time.
So this next clip, Alex wants to make a metaphor about the fires of liberty and how if you try and put them out, you might burn the rug you're trying to put it out with.
jordan holmes
That's a great metaphor.
dan friesen
It's super pained.
But I'm going to spoil what he ends up saying because I think it's important to really bring this into focus.
He says that the fires are going to the globalists are going to run to their castles, and those castles will be their prisons where they're burned in their ovens.
He says basically.
jordan holmes
Not great imagery.
dan friesen
He's basically saying that these castles that they run to are going to be their ovens.
And there's a couple unfortunate pieces about this.
Never say that about somebody.
jordan holmes
Usually a bad idea.
dan friesen
Don't do that, especially when Nazis are on the rise in America.
And when it's very clear that your worldview is globalist equals Jew bankers and stuff like that.
So when you're saying these globalists are running to their castles, what most people, especially the bigots, get it in the audience that, oh, he's talking about those international Jews.
And so when you then refer to it as ovens, it is very, very bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and that's a clear dog whistle.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
That's so clear.
And if you're not paying attention, though, you're like, oh, that's just his dumbass rhetoric, when in reality, that is definitely a signal to all of his fucking Nazi followers.
dan friesen
And I'm willing to believe that it might have been subconscious because it sounds like he tries to cover it immediately after.
Like, it might just be something that came out of his mouth.
But make no mistake, that is not, like, I don't think that, like, there's a hundred other ways you could phrase it.
If you want to say they're going to be burned in their castles, that's their fireplace or something like that.
There's a lot of other ways you could go about it.
People are not burned in ovens except in one very specific instance.
And so anyway.
jordan holmes
Also, there is one other specific instance.
dan friesen
Hansel and Gretel.
jordan holmes
True?
dan friesen
So there's another one.
jordan holmes
The devil in the white city.
That dude, H.H. Holmes.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
He burned people.
Not related.
He burned people in ovens.
That's definitely true.
dan friesen
I didn't know that.
I couldn't make it through that book.
It was so boring.
But be that as it may, even with all that put to the side, this metaphor is fucking tortured.
It is so awful.
So here you go.
Enjoy.
Enjoy, literature, major.
alex jones
That's like a lot of times you try to put a fire out.
It'll catch the blanket you got on fire.
dan friesen
Use a fire extension.
alex jones
You try to put it out, coals roll out, and pretty soon there's a brush fire out here.
All of a sudden, the wind kicks up like God's not on your side.
And all of a sudden, you're engulfed in your own attempt to put out the fires of liberty.
And fire goes up and will burn down these evil people in these high places.
These fortresses they built for themselves are actually going to be their prisons.
The ovens.
Of the heavens raining down fire.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
We saw in the time of Ezekiel.
Burning away the tyranny.
jordan holmes
Like in Ezekiel.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, you saw that eclipse.
You see how beautiful this universe is strong.
You see how strong the fire of liberty is.
dan friesen
Strong.
jordan holmes
Because of the eclipse?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, it was pretty cloudy in Chicago.
The eclipse was not that impressive.
Although I, like Trump, stared straight at it.
And no eye damage, guys.
But I did make a good joke with my boss.
I was like, you don't really need glasses.
It's cloudy out.
I looked up at it.
I'm not blind yet.
He's like, I hear that happens like the day after.
I'm like, well, I don't know what to tell you.
I mean, my eye did just get crossed.
Boss never looks at me.
So I was like trying to play it off as if, who cares?
I got a cross-eye guys if you haven't seen me.
jordan holmes
Not bad.
Anyway, not bad, Dan.
dan friesen
This next clip is weird.
jordan holmes
Weirder than that metaphor?
dan friesen
No, because that metaphor wasn't that weird.
Like the fires of liberty getting out of control if you try and put them out.
I think I could make a better metaphor if I wanted to.
But the only thing that was super weird about that is how bad he is at that, the metaphor, and then him just out of nowhere saying ovens.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's the part that's weird.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But this clip, I don't even know how to, again, there are going to be like three or four parts in this episode that I just don't know how to tell you.
I don't know what to do.
So I just have to play the clip.
alex jones
Don Lemon, that almost nobody watches you, and that people understand you're scum and that you sit up there all day and lie about the president and lie to your viewers and tell people that I said that I'm an actor and don't believe what I say.
Your lawyers are always saying, oh, the Republicans think Trump's looking for a way out.
The things he's saying are so crazy, and Clapper and Brennan are out saying it.
We think he wants to resign.
That's right.
He was never really running to win and president.
And he was never really going to do all this stuff.
And, oh, he really worked for Hillary.
dan friesen
You said you said that.
alex jones
None of it was true.
It's all a hoax.
dan friesen
You said that.
alex jones
Just like they'd march into people's offices early on when Trump was out of town and say, Trump fired you, leave.
And then they'd call Roger Stone or others up and say, is this true?
And they'd say, no, it's a scam.
Wait till he comes back to town and go talk to him.
Then Priebus came in and said, Don't you go talk to him?
He goes, Well, I'm supposed to.
He wants me to talk to him.
And they're like, ah.
And they're like, Mr. President, the leaks are because you only should talk to one person.
Now let us put you in here all alone.
And with Joe Arpaio coming on later, the Sheriff Arpaio with the big exclusive interview, he's on our interview first because he wants to thank us for helping get word of the president.
It's not about even the pardon.
It's about the story that if you can get to him and let him know something's happening, he will research it and try to do the right thing.
And they call that mentally ill, that he's not letting a bunch of globalists play the part of collective president and then tell him what to do and have him read off a script and go play golf.
And they're saying it's insane.
Oh, yeah, one-sided NAFTA and GATT and TPP and all this that he's pulling out.
It's insane trying to bring our economy back.
That's why it's in the news today.
Wall Street Bank's warrant downturn coming.
They're trying to kill the economy because they know it's associated with Trump and our Make America great again.
It's totally naked.
They want you poor.
They want you dumb.
They want your kids.
They want you in poverty.
It's in the WikiLeaks.
Cloud and Piven.
It's public.
It's published.
They're horrible people and they think they're going to break you.
They think they've got control of you.
Well, ask God for help.
Take action.
Speak out.
And we are breaking them.
We've made more gains the last two years we made the last hundred.
dan friesen
That's the strangest shout out at the end of like they're clear.
That's a hard break.
They've got to go to break.
They can't not.
And he's got to get stuff out off his chest.
That we've accomplished more in the last two years than we have in the last hundred is fucked up.
That is so fucked up.
Because what's happened in the last hundred years?
Civil Rights Act?
jordan holmes
New Deal.
What else?
Oh, all the stuff.
dan friesen
So going back to the.
jordan holmes
Let's go with the fucking iPhone.
Like, I don't know what you want.
I don't know what you want, Alex.
What have we accomplished in the past two years?
What is Trump and the quote-unquote Patriots accomplished?
dan friesen
They stood up to the false group that Alex thinks is oppressing the world.
That's what's going on.
jordan holmes
But he hasn't even done that.
dan friesen
No, of course not.
jordan holmes
All of the strictures of globalism, as we understand what Alex has believed in our previous episodes, Trump has done none of them.
dan friesen
No, and if Trump really did want to do what Alex suggests, what he would have done immediately is audit the Fed.
Like, if he was the person that Alex Jones thinks he is, he would have audited the Fed because that's the biggest thing for these globalist hawking wingdings is the idea that the federal bank needs to be checked because all of this debt, all this national debt isn't real.
All this stuff.
So if you audit it, you find that all these banksters, these international Jews, as it were, have been screwing us over and signed us on to all this debt that's really their debt, and then we should put them in prison.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Well, the Federal Reserve signed its name in all caps.
So it's not really the Federal Reserve.
It's the idea of the Federal Reserve.
dan friesen
I'm starting to actually think that Alex Jones might be a sovereign citizen.
I found a clip from 2015 that makes me think that he might really actually be on that tip.
We'll get to it eventually in the investigation, but a caller calls in and explains the idea of maritime admiralty to him.
And Alex is like, yep, yeah, I know all that.
I've had some success in court with that.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
What?
Said fucking Noah.
I'm confused as to what he was talking about.
So apparently, secret people or not secret people, like scammers would go to Trump's campaign office and try and fire people.
dan friesen
This is something they've talked about before.
jordan holmes
And they would go to Roger Stone and Roger Stone would be like, you're not fired.
Go talk to Trump.
And then Reince Priebus would come back to them.
So we assume that the original scammer was actually just Reince Priebus.
And he would say, don't talk to Trump.
Don't talk to Trump.
And then they would go talk to him and they wouldn't be fired.
But all the leakers, which puts us two years from the campaign whenever Roger Stone was involved at all.
Where is he saying that people in the White House were almost fired?
But then they talk to Roger Stone, the man who legally can get nowhere near the White House.
dan friesen
He can get as close to the White House as he can to CNN.
But yeah, Roger Stone and Reince Priebus' tenures don't overlap at all.
At all.
So yeah, this is just that convoluted narrative that Alex has that there are globalists inside who are trying to trick Trump loyalists into quitting by telling them that they'd been fired.
And then they'd go and ask Trump.
He's like, I didn't fire you.
It's just nonsense.
jordan holmes
If that worked, which we're dealing with Trump's people, so that probably would have worked.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
We could have just walked into anybody's office and been like, Trump fired you, and they were.
That sounds like Trump.
dan friesen
Yeah.
They wouldn't even ask.
jordan holmes
They wouldn't even ask.
They'd just be like, oh, yeah, that's the guy that fires people.
I'm out of here.
dan friesen
But if that's true, which it's not, if that were true, that is a description of one of the most disorganized, chaotic, backstabby, awful administrations I can possibly imagine.
So even if Alex Jones is depicting the reality, that's terrible.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we probably shouldn't allow them to have any kind of governing power.
dan friesen
So you know what?
Even if they are real fuck-ups, they're screwing up, creating a terrible administration.
That's okay.
jordan holmes
They are.
dan friesen
That's okay.
jordan holmes
They are in every possible respect.
There is literally not one thing they have done with any sort of competency.
Even the evil things that they want to do, they've done very poorly and can't implement any of them.
These are the dumbest people in the history of American government.
dan friesen
Jordan, I can tell you one thing that they've done that is not terrible.
That is that they have not created any babies that don't have souls.
Now, listen to this next clip.
jordan holmes
No.
No.
alex jones
Not in age, never, never.
You can't have a thousand infinities.
no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no you will not get control You will not win.
You will not kill everybody.
You will not deform everyone.
You will not have cancer rates of 90%.
You will not have everybody infernal.
It's not allowing you to have humanoid kids.
Oh, five parents.
Yeah, it's a person.
Here, it's your baby.
Oh, look, it's six foot four and perfectly looking.
And it ain't got a soul, baby.
jordan holmes
Why?
unidentified
They're like, does four parents equal a soul?
alex jones
Imprints.
These clones.
They just take on whatever they're programmed with in the culture and just go around on power trips.
It's basically like Satan bots or artificial synthetic sociopaths.
unidentified
As opposed to our homegrown sociopaths.
alex jones
See, there's one switch they want to cut off.
It's virtue.
dan friesen
He's now chewing on.
unidentified
It's innocence.
alex jones
Innocence is the window into infinity.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Mind of God.
unidentified
What the fuck is that?
What are you fucking talking about?
alex jones
Ever-seeking, ever-looking, ever wishing.
The average leftist, if they could, would run through a kindergarten with a hatchet.
jordan holmes
That's true.
alex jones
He may have been.
Want to kill your kids?
They'll be right back.
That's the epiphany.
dan friesen
That's a great epiphany.
So, first of all, that's how you really radicalize your audience by saying that the mainline people who oppose our political ideas want to kill your children.
They would run through a kindergarten with a hatchet, which I want to say is maybe a stab at the juggalos.
And I don't appreciate that because their symbol is a guy running with a hatchet.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
The hatchet man.
jordan holmes
I don't think so.
I don't think he knows that.
dan friesen
He might have just read Hatchet.
jordan holmes
He might have just seen the movie The Patriot starring Mel Gibson.
dan friesen
I'm guessing based on his reading level, he just read Brad Newberry Award winner The Hatchet.
jordan holmes
So, well, he was fake crying, so maybe he read Where the Red Fern Grows.
dan friesen
Could be.
Or Bridge to Terabithia, other children's books.
Hold on, hold on.
I know you're chomping at the bit there.
jordan holmes
I'm angry.
dan friesen
But we need to unpack this very important piece.
alex jones
What?
dan friesen
The way he's speaking in that clip leads me to believe that he believes that a lot of people who disagree with him are clones.
jordan holmes
It kind of feels that way.
dan friesen
He is saying this as if, like, he's not talking about a hypothetical future.
He's talking about these synthetic sociopaths who are walking around.
jordan holmes
Nor even a metaphorical description of these people.
dan friesen
Six foot four, ain't got no soul, baby.
jordan holmes
Why don't they have a soul?
Even said, like, they got five parents and they're six foot four, but they don't have souls.
Like, wait, but how many parents do you need to have a soul?
dan friesen
I'm guessing.
jordan holmes
What do you mean?
Does in vitro fertilization mean you don't have a soul?
Because if you can have five parents, it's just the same shit.
It's just multiple genetic material coming out of it.
dan friesen
I'm guessing his idea, if we took his logic to its natural extension, it would be that test tube babies don't have a soul.
Right.
jordan holmes
They're clones.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How else would you get that?
dan friesen
Synthetic.
jordan holmes
Synthetic sociopath.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Or it could be Satan bots.
dan friesen
Satan bots.
He believes there are a ton of clones walking around.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
Who else would disagree with him?
Oh, the devil.
dan friesen
The devil is real, and he's doing all kinds of fucked up stuff.
jordan holmes
And he's building great bots.
dan friesen
There are clones running around all over the place.
jordan holmes
Because they have five parents.
dan friesen
Oh, my God.
This is so.
jordan holmes
This is anybody taller than 6'4 does not have a soul.
This is just proven.
It's in the WikiLeaks.
dan friesen
All people are talking about is that Joe Arpaia was on the show.
There's so much more that's so worse here.
jordan holmes
This is the type of shit where it's like every article you see that's like, how did Trump people feel about Trump now that he's ruining their lives and they don't even know it?
It's like, here's what they feel.
dan friesen
They don't care.
They think you're a clone.
jordan holmes
Here's what they feel.
They feel that anybody who disagrees with them is trying to murder them at every single point in time.
We're past the point of, can you talk to these people and reason with them?
Because they think you're trying to murder them.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And I'll never operate in the same way.
I'm still willing to even talk to an info warrior or anything.
I will give everyone the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.
I don't like descending into that we can't talk to the other side stuff.
But I do believe that a large portion of the people who won't turn on Trump, despite the mounting evidence of the Russia shit being very real and the fact that he's just going to destroy the entire country through his ego, greed, siphoning off money to his own people.
unidentified
Or just all the crimes he's committed.
dan friesen
Right, the siphoning official.
jordan holmes
All of it.
dan friesen
All the kleptoffers.
jordan holmes
So many crimes.
dan friesen
Right.
But they will never turn on it because they are indoctrinated into this cult, essentially, of the anti-globalist stuff.
unidentified
And that's what you're talking about.
dan friesen
I need to make this point because that gets back to why I'm particularly offended by Joe Rogan jumping on board with a lot of these people who are in the Alex Jones averse, as it were.
And I understand that he wants to give a fair day in court to all sorts of people, but if Peter Schiff was on our show, let's say, there's no way we would allow him to say the things that he says without at least pushing back pretty considerably on these ideas, these faulty economic ideas that he has.
jordan holmes
Well, if we had him on our show, we would spend a week prepping.
We would have everything that he regularly talks about.
We would have charts.
We would go through all of this shit because we care.
dan friesen
And probably try not to talk about his dad.
jordan holmes
I think it would be hilarious.
dan friesen
He'd probably bring him up.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So, I mean, look, the point is...
jordan holmes
No, but my point is this.
Even if we're going outside of our cult that we follow along with, even the mainstream GOP people, even whenever they give us this like, oh, Trump has reached a 64% disapproved thing, the GOP will still vote 48% for any Republican.
When Trump runs for a reelection, you know, for over the burning mass of what used to be the world, it will still be every GOP voter voting for him.
Because they don't exist as a positive anything.
There's no Republicans are for something.
They are a non-existent party.
They are just filled with, I hate this shit.
And they will use any rationale to justify their hatred.
dan friesen
But I don't think it's fair to say that and not say that it is true that most Democrats would just vote for any Democrat also.
And I'm not saying that that makes it okay because obviously Trump is way worse than any political alignment.
jordan holmes
You make a very good point.
dan friesen
But there is that same lockstep walking.
And that's.
jordan holmes
Right.
You can't.
I'm not specifically blaming Trump or the GOP.
unidentified
And I'm not blaming.
jordan holmes
I am blaming our dumbass system.
And I'm like, don't hate the player, hit the game.
dan friesen
I'm not saying you're wrong by making that rebuttal, but I just think it's important to be fair and say that there's a lot of just mindless, the other side sucks, our side is great on both sides.
And that's kind of the problem with, especially with two-party systems and the state of the world today.
jordan holmes
I think that is not entirely what I was talking about.
I was talking more about rather than it being a party-based lockstep, it's more just this is their ideology.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
The entirety.
I think you're wrong.
dan friesen
No, I didn't.
jordan holmes
I don't think anybody's in the world.
dan friesen
I think the last year has shown us that their ideology is very malleable.
They fall in line with whatever fits the most important pieces of their ideology, which is don't give stuff to people and lower taxes.
That sort of stuff.
jordan holmes
But that's all I mean, again, that's all a negative.
That's all a remove things.
dan friesen
Well, they don't see it.
jordan holmes
They don't have any kind of a bad thing.
Which is why they'll rationalize any of these dumbass, you know, Obamacare is bad.
They'll rationalize that away with anything just because they hate Obama.
Just because they want to tear down this shit.
dan friesen
Well, in that Peter Schiff interview with Joe Rogan, one of the things he was talking about with the minimum wage was like, having a minimum wage hurts employees because, hey, you know what?
Say you want a job and you want to work for $3 an hour.
You can't.
jordan holmes
You know, like so many people.
dan friesen
You don't have the power to do that because you can't.
It's against the law.
So if you want to have that, if you want to have that, in our world, what you get is $0 an hour because you can't have a job.
But if there was no minimum wage, you could get that $3 an hour job.
You'd be making $3 an hour.
Anyway, it's all nonsense.
But the point I was trying to make with that is that his conception of taking away the minimum wage, which we know is a negative, he's trying to make it a positive for everybody.
This is a gain for you.
You could get $3 an hour instead of zero.
jordan holmes
But that's just, again, that's just a rationalization for their hell-bent destruction of the New Deal.
Like, that's all they really want.
And despite the reams upon reams upon reams of history books explaining why these people are so fucking dumb, they can't process any of that information.
They'll just always come up with some sort of alternative or some study written by somebody from the fucking Heritage Foundation that only ancillary disproves a small, tiny little bit of this if it even does that at all.
And they'll say, look, we have our own specialists.
dan friesen
Gotcha.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Or they'll do the classic what about.
Like, they don't believe in anything.
There's no belief system behind the GOP.
There's no belief system behind their version of Christianity.
Well, now this is all made-up bullshit to rationalize that they just don't want any of this shit around because they hate people.
dan friesen
Well, now I'm deeply concerned because there is an element of that I agree with.
But as the Tea Party has come to prominence and now the Tea Party is kind of absorbed into the larger patriot movement.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're all right.
Right.
dan friesen
But whatever you want to call it.
Because there's a lot of moving pieces within it, but they're all sort of coming together.
And one of the things that draws them all together is a really anti-government stance, or at least anti-federal government stance.
With the hard libertarians, the liberty people, the patriots, even the alt-right, and Peter Schiff, there is a complete belief that the federal government imposing anything on you is some sort of a crime or a violence against you.
And as that gets absorbed into the GOP and becomes the mainstream of the conservative side, you look at a really dangerous proposition.
Because no principles is almost better to that.
Because that's just straight-up destruction.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
It's hard to.
dan friesen
How do you run a campaign where one person is like, I think the federal government should do nothing?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And like, I have some ideas.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
What do you do?
dan friesen
How does that argument work?
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Well, you say that the federal government doing nothing is really the best thing for you.
That's the argument.
If you're trying to run a campaign on tear down the government.
dan friesen
No, I'm saying how does that debate end up working?
Because the person on the other side is forced to take the position of federal government is great.
Whereas a logical position is the federal government has its problems, but there's some things we need to work out.
jordan holmes
There's so much that just it would never, ever, ever be possible were it not for federal government intervention.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Like there's so much.
dan friesen
They're carrying the load of this large population.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Urban centers existing.
unidentified
Or just your fucking technological growth.
jordan holmes
All of this stuff begins with federal investment.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
A lot of it begins with military investment, unfortunately.
But that is so much of the technology that we use is entirely because the federal government funded its research.
dan friesen
Sure.
Or even the arts.
You can't even go that way.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
It's technology, the arts, culture, pretty much everything.
jordan holmes
Well, the Civil War is not going to be drawn on states or North-South anymore.
It's cities versus rural people.
And imagine, like, if we switch to the state.
dan friesen
I will never take up arms against L.A. Monte.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
No, if we switch to even city-states, if we go back to fucking ancient classical times.
Yeah, all of this stuff, so much would just be destroyed and lost without some sort of unifying federal government.
Chicago is like, it would be decimated.
So many places would be decimated.
And the very people who are calling for anti-government, who are the most anti-government, are the ones who are going to die first.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
That's what they have.
It's a death cult.
It's a death cult.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
People are wishing for their own death.
dan friesen
You sound like Alex.
jordan holmes
Anyone of the GOP would run through your daycare with a hatchet.
dan friesen
So I don't stand by that.
jordan holmes
Claiming that everybody's atheist.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, this is fun.
jordan holmes
Sorry about that rant.
I don't even know what...
Like, I'm just...
I'm just so fucking done.
I'm just so fucking done with these people.
dan friesen
Do you remember where this rant started?
Babies with no souls.
So this next clip.
jordan holmes
With five parents.
dan friesen
Alex Jones gets mad at people for bragging about being violent, which is hilarious.
Very hypocritical and pretty fun.
But he starts getting into it and starts making jokes.
And you can't tell from the story.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
Can't tell from the audio, but Steve Pieczenik is on Skype, and you can see him laughing.
And so, this leads into the interduction of Steve Pieczenik.
And what he says when he gets on the mic for the first time, I strongly disagree with.
Keep that in mind.
I strongly disagree.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
James Clapper, I question Trump's fitness for office.
Wonder if he's looking for a way out.
Again, the same lies.
And then McConnell deserting him and saying, we're going to turn.
McConnell tried to stop him in the primaries.
It's the same dirtbags trying to hoodwink you.
This is a test of you.
Forget who Trump is.
This is a test on there controlling the narrative like Karl Rove trying to show off to some female reporters.
Just like Richard Pearl saddled up a bunch of hot reporters and said, you know, I kill people.
I'm a big killer.
I kill a lot of people, like weighs 400 pounds, huge black circles, looks like a raccoon.
And the women are like, ugh, gross.
Hey, hey, dude, women don't want to hear about how many people you ordered killed yourself when you can't hardly walk.
But at the same meeting, Carl Rove tries to show off and goes, I control history.
And all of you media are nothing.
I tell you what to say, whether it's true or not, you put it out, then I'll change history again.
It's like Winston being tortured by O'Brien in 1984.
And he's pulling his teeth out.
He goes, listen, once you're totally mentally ill, you won't believe in gravity if I tell you.
We're going to get you to the point where I show you four figures.
You see whatever the hell I want.
You don't see four figures.
You see 527.
Hey, you see purple's your ass, bro.
When I'm done, you have no mind because my religion is destroying your mind and pissing on everyone because I'm in the priest of power.
And that's all this is for Don Lemon and the rest of them.
And Carl Rove in an airport, I walk over and he goes, you're not a team player.
You could be on Fox if you just start being a team player.
And I'm like, dude, I mean, I don't want to get into stuff.
He's just so stupid.
I'm sitting there like, I want to be on Fox when they've already offered me shows like 15 times.
I don't want to get into numbers or any of it.
He's just so stupid.
I mean, I was like talking to a retarded midget.
He even looks like he's got extra chromosomes, and I'm not being mean here.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
He's got a poor Down syndrome, guys.
And he literally is bragging to women that he's powerful and controls reality.
dan friesen
Fake laugh.
jordan holmes
It's even creepier than a usual fake laugh.
alex jones
That is the virtue.
And I love Down syndrome, kids, and give my other special one.
But he has that strength, though.
He does have that idiot strength.
What?
Okay.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
I'm going to skip this break so we have more time.
When I start laughing this hard, it's really a bad situation.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Hey, Dr. Pieczenik, you've been down about the Afghanistan thing, but it's okay.
It's okay.
Go ahead.
unidentified
You are brilliant.
alex jones
No, I'm not.
unidentified
To pay for this show.
Honestly, I don't think anybody really understands how incredibly brilliant you are when you're riffing.
It's like a jazz bill.
Incredible insights.
Oh, consciousness, but it's.
You're right.
Kyle Rove is a midget.
jordan holmes
What?
How is this?
How is this okay?
How is this okay for anything, anywhere, anybody?
dan friesen
Well, because this is how Steve Pieczenik maintains his space in the order in the batting lineup.
jordan holmes
Just mindless sycophant.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And that's how he's able to trick Alex into believing all these counter-coup narratives and stuff like that.
Whenever Alex goes off on whatever the fuck that was, Steve Pieczenik's responses, just slapping his knee and being like, aha, Alex, you're a genius.
And then almost immediately transitioning into the point he wants to make, which I actually kind of agree with some of the points he's making.
We don't need to listen to a ton of him, but he's basically talking about how the war in Afghanistan, we can't keep, we cannot do, we can't continue it.
Sending more troops is a really terrible idea.
It's clearly working.
jordan holmes
No, it's worked before.
dan friesen
It's clearly the worker.
jordan holmes
It worked in 2014.
It worked in 2012.
It worked in 2011.
It worked in 2009.
It worked in 2004.
It worked in 2006.
It worked in 20.
dan friesen
I don't agree with Steve Pieczenik about a lot because he's a little bit nuts.
But I do agree with him in this sense, and that makes listening to him kind of boring.
jordan holmes
It's just so gross.
dan friesen
It's very gross.
jordan holmes
It's disgusting.
And it's even worse that he tries and pull it off by saying, and I love Down syndrome kids.
dan friesen
I love them.
jordan holmes
What is that?
It's just fucking disgusting.
dan friesen
Well, he insults Karl Rove by calling him retarded, then says, I love Down syndrome kids.
I give to the Special Olympics.
Those people are great.
And then says, but Karl Rove does have idiot strength.
It's like, this is a whirlwind here.
He just has no base.
But anyway, it's just.
We can't get bogged down.
It's just him being stupid.
jordan holmes
It's a fundamental inability to treat people as people.
dan friesen
It's almost like he's a synthetic psychopath.
jordan holmes
He is.
Or he could just be a genuine psychopath.
dan friesen
So this next clip starts with.
jordan holmes
He could be a Satan bot.
dan friesen
This next clip starts with what is a pretty inspiring tone and then gets to something I can't believe is true.
So this will be another whirlwind roller coaster.
alex jones
You never know when you're doing little things how big it is.
An example of that is David Knight came in here and he goes, look, I'm only getting hundreds of thousands of viewers online on millions and we're only got 15 stations signing up in the next month.
I go, dude, most people take 20 years to get on 15 stations.
You're doing great.
And I said, I used to be on access television in 95, 96, and a few thousand viewers.
I had no idea.
One of them was Mike Judge.
He said this on tape.
I'm not bragging about me.
He made one of the top 10 TV shows ever.
They had 11 seasons or whatever.
King of the Hill, one of the few shows with a few decent values, and kind of the Hank Hill character.
And then they got Dale Gribble.
Because he didn't know if I was right or wrong.
So he kind of created the Hank Hill character off his dad and his grandpa and me.
But then the bad side, he wasn't sure we were right, was Dale Gribble, the conspiracy theorist.
unidentified
Whoa, man.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones is Hank Hill, but also Dale Gribble.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Hank Hill is his dad, his grandpa, and crazy weirdo who's on the TV.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
But if there's one thing I know about Hank Hill, he reminds me a lot of Alex Jones.
Every time I think about Hank Hill, I'm like, there's a lot of Alex Jones there.
There's a lot of Alex Jones.
I don't think Alex quite got the point of King of the Hill.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
I don't think he quite understood where the humor came from.
dan friesen
He also.
jordan holmes
I don't think.
He doesn't have a sense of humor.
So, of course, he just sees that and goes, oh, look, it's my values being reflected as opposed to, oh, look, my values don't actually make any fucking sense.
dan friesen
Right, right.
He doesn't get biting satire.
But also, there is literally no way that Mike Judge.
jordan holmes
Mike Judge was a fan.
dan friesen
No, that is true.
Like, the two of them are.
jordan holmes
He made Hank Hill based on the.
dan friesen
That part's not true.
jordan holmes
No, that's definitely true.
dan friesen
But the other thing is, I like where he's coming from at the beginning there.
jordan holmes
Let's call Larry Nichols and see if it's true.
dan friesen
Oh, let's do it.
I like where he's coming from at the beginning when he's saying that you never know who you're reaching.
Like, today we got that email from Sonia in Sweden.
That's really crazy.
You know, we have gotten a lot of emails and messages from people who I have no fucking idea how they found the show.
And it's really cool.
It's really neat to know that people are listening.
And so that kind of a message from Alex, I can dig it.
jordan holmes
Well, I found out that I'm the basis for Bob Belcher from Bob's Burgers.
unidentified
Well, you.
jordan holmes
Everybody knows.
dan friesen
That guy's dad.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the other thing is we should say that David Knight has finally launched his own show.
And they broadcast in the mornings.
David Knight has got his own show, Real News with David Knight.
I have not watched it because, of course, I'm not going to watch that.
It's got to be boring as shit.
jordan holmes
Real news.
dan friesen
Real news.
jordan holmes
With David Knight.
dan friesen
With David Knight.
Here's the news.
Get just for men.
jordan holmes
That's terrible.
dan friesen
Here's the news.
jordan holmes
That's terrible.
dan friesen
Your beard is weird.
jordan holmes
That's terrible.
dan friesen
Your moustache is trash.
jordan holmes
No, we're not making fun of him based on his appearance.
It's just how boring he is.
dan friesen
I saw a picture of him from early around 2008 or so.
Holy shit, he was svelte.
He has gotten...
I'm not insulting him he looks fine because he looks like a do you also love down syndrome kids no No, he looks like a convival grandpa now, like a benign grandpa.
Whatever.
But back then.
He's a bit major.
He probably was like a good 40 pounds lighter.
Like his face was slim.
jordan holmes
It was weird to name your show Real News.
dan friesen
Real news.
jordan holmes
Doesn't that imply that it's not real news?
Like if you're reinforcing the idea that it's real news, maybe it's more like, no, for real.
No, no, no.
No, it's real news.
It's real news.
unidentified
Don't go.
jordan holmes
Don't go.
It's real.
It's real news.
dan friesen
The first episode was about how Luann from King of the Hill was based on Mike Judge's sister.
jordan holmes
And David Knight.
dan friesen
So I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just Alex Jones lying about turning down millions of dollars of funding because this next clip that we are going to play is much more important.
In this, Steve Pieczenik is on hold.
He's there in Skype on studio.
And Alex Jones gets a call from a gentleman who I can only describe as anti-Semitic.
And let's see what happens.
jordan holmes
Is his name anti-Semitic Jim?
dan friesen
Might as well be.
alex jones
Scott in Connecticut.
Scott in Connecticut.
Listening at 11.20 a.m.
WBCM wants to talk about Afghanistan.
Scott, thanks for holding.
Thanks for joining us.
unidentified
Good afternoon, Mr. Jones.
It's an honor to speak to a legend like you.
alex jones
No, honor to talk to you.
Come on.
unidentified
Well, this is what I want to say.
We need to get out of Afghanistan, the Middle East.
There's no point of us being there.
The only one that benefits, sir, is Israel and the Zionists.
We're there because we're joined to the hip with Israel and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or APAC, wields tremendous power.
Congressmen and senators can't get elected to office in this country if they're against Israel.
They're branded as an anti-Semite, a Jew hater.
They just wield too much power.
And talking about APEC, all of the garbage that's going on for Trump is coming from George Soros, who is an international Jewish banker, communist, and fifth columnist, who's behind the Occupy Wall Street movement and the Black Lives Matter.
Where would him along with Carl Schumer and Adam Schiff and Bernie Sanders, Diane Feinstein want to make America a Jewish communist nation?
Let's be honest.
America absolutely, positively has a Zionist-occupied government to Zog.
The Jews control Wall Street, the media, Hollywood, and American foreign policy.
alex jones
Well, let me ask you this question, because I think in your statement is the answer.
You've got Soros trying to overthrow Israel and Netanyahu in the documents in the WikiLeaks.
And then you're saying that Soros is controlling America when he was a Nazi collaborator.
Isn't it that you've got all sorts of different Jews in the world with different political views and that some of these leftist Jews, because they're just leftist, have these collectivist models?
I mean, I understand there's a big Israel lobby.
jordan holmes
Come on.
alex jones
And I don't like any foreign lobby manipulating us.
I've been against it.
So I get called anti-Israel while I'm called a minion of Israel.
But let's get Pieczenik's take on that.
Because, I mean, I know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Don't Pieczenik even with actually did die under Hitler's occupation.
You know, you're, I guess, half Jewish or whatever.
You know, that should have fled to Cuba because the U.S. wouldn't take you or whatever.
You know, earlier, I guess, with FDR, but later would.
God, you know, you've written a book about it.
Your mother's experiences.
I mean, what is your real view on this?
The guy that did the Camp David Accords successfully, well, with Jimmy Carter.
I mean, you're a famous guy when it comes to Middle Eastern peace.
What's really happening?
unidentified
He's not wrong.
Oh, bro.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Thanks for that.
Thanks for that, Pachenek.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Thanks for chiming in with your dumbass bullshit.
dan friesen
We apparently do have a ZOG.
jordan holmes
We got a Zionist-occupied government.
dan friesen
Also, in that clip, I think I figured out what Mike Judge took from Alex Jones to make Hank Hill, and that's the pronouncing it.
jordan holmes
What?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What?
Yeah.
I love the idea that APAC wants to keep us in Afghanistan.
Like, hey, yeah, yeah, make sure you destabilize the Middle East so we'll be safe.
dan friesen
Right.
And the other thing about that is Alex has attempted to save with the, you know, there's all kinds of different Jews with different views, which is a nice way to put it.
jordan holmes
That is a nice way to put it.
dan friesen
He's like, it's the leftist Jews who are doing this.
And it's because they're leftists, not because they're Jews.
jordan holmes
It takes different Jews.
It takes different Jews to rule the world.
dan friesen
APAC isn't a leftist organization at all.
jordan holmes
Oh, do you mean one of the most hard-right organizations in the fucking country isn't a leftist?
dan friesen
So his whole argument.
jordan holmes
Fucking bullshit.
dan friesen
whole argument doesn't take into account what the guy was as the anti-semite was saying and i i say that with all love and respect but that guy is is beholden to he i mean he's a pez dispenser yeah absolutely so he would rather blame jews for uh oh i know a group of people who would rather blame jews for their problems dan Dan, can you think of another group of people who hate the Jews?
Anti-globalists.
jordan holmes
Okay, we got one.
Let's see.
I think there's a big one.
I think there's a big one.
dan friesen
The Nazis?
jordan holmes
The Nazis.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
The Nazizis.
dan friesen
Speaking of someone who probably is totally cool with the Nazis, at least the neo-Nazis, Joe Arpaio's time has come.
jordan holmes
God, I fucking, Dan.
dan friesen
We're going to keep it to a minimum.
This clip is Joe Arpaio really breaking it down, what he feels about what's been done to him.
jordan holmes
I don't have strong enough words.
I don't have strong enough words.
dan friesen
Well, then just be quiet and we'll get through it.
I only have like four clips of him or so, and mostly they're just him saying stupid shit.
So we can get through it.
Just don't yell.
Just keep it in.
This first clip is really, it's kind of funny when you look at the big picture.
Unfortunately, it's not funny because he's responsible for many deaths and many non-investigations of horrible crimes because victims were immigrants.
alex jones
We're in this together.
They're coming after everybody, and it's really a great brotherhood or kinship to actually be persecuted by these globalist cum.
You ask, why is the media after Trump?
Because they know he's for real.
These are globalists.
They're trying to sell the country out, Sheriff.
sheriff joe arpaio
I know.
You know, Mark Goldman talked to you.
He had him on, so I have a good lawyer for a change.
So I'm fighting this out, and I'm never going to surrender.
And I'll tell you, I'm going to try to get the real story out about the abuse that was done.
They can do it to me.
Think of that.
They can do it to anybody.
And that's dangerous for our country.
dan friesen
So the idea that if they can do this to me, they can do it to anybody, I'm very comfortable with because what you did is atrocious.
jordan holmes
I'm uncomfortable that that's currently not true.
dan friesen
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
I'm very uncomfortable with the fact that if you are a serial killer, apparently you can't do anything to that fucking guy.
dan friesen
Well, no, no, no.
Let's take that out of the equation because at press time, Trump has not pardoned him, and there's some questions about whether he even has the authority to do that.
jordan holmes
I don't think he does.
dan friesen
But be that as it may, the idea that he's portraying this as a witch hunt against him is funny.
But if you just take this sentence, if they can do this to me, they can do it to anybody.
And what I'm saying is that if they can do what they did, which is pursue legal action and take things to court and find you guilty.
jordan holmes
Contempt of court.
dan friesen
If you are that person who has a clear history of racial profiling abusively in a police department, I'm fine with that happening to anybody who does that.
You know what I'm saying?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm fine with it happening to everybody who does that.
dan friesen
Yeah, that doesn't, your argument that if they can do this to me, they can do it to you.
I'm fine with that.
I'm not doing that.
I'm not committing race-based offenses.
So suck it, Joe.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if they can convict me of a crime I committed, huh?
What's next?
They're convicting other people of crimes they committed?
Come on, you don't want to live in that America.
You don't want to live in an America where people who commit crimes are fucking investigated and arrested for it.
And it's quite good thing.
We don't live in that fucking America, Dan.
dan friesen
And it's quite frankly total bullshit that what he's being charged with is that contempt of court nonsense because he deserves to be hit with so much more.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
But be that as it may, he thinks that there's something more going on.
And he consistently refuses to tell Alex what he's talking about because he hasn't been pardoned yet.
And he's worried about getting in more trouble about talking about the case publicly before he's in the clear.
So he keeps saying like, oh, there's more.
jordan holmes
So he has a better lawyer than Alex did.
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's like, there's more here, but I can't talk about it now.
I'm not going to get into it.
He just says that throughout the entire thing.
And I love Trump.
Those are the two things that he keeps hitting on.
But he accidentally does let slip what he thinks is actually going on in this next clip.
alex jones
Go after him, Sheriff.
Do it.
I mean, blame me.
Trump's fighting.
Tell us what you think about Soros, that Nazi collaborator.
sheriff joe arpaio
Well, he went after me for illegal immigration, and he said the tents have to go.
But there's another thing I'm not going to talk about now why I feel he really went after me.
And I'm not going to get into birth certificates right now.
unidentified
But this is a bigger subject matter.
dan friesen
You did just get into it.
Like, he's saying, there's another reason why Soros hates me.
I'm not going to get into it, but it's a birth certificate.
Yeah, it's my bullshit about Obama and how his birth certificate is allegedly fake, which it's not.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
Are we still on that?
Are we still on the birth certificate?
dan friesen
Joe is.
unidentified
Jesus.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What a dumb fucking asshole serial killing piece of shit.
dan friesen
Well, and that's the.
jordan holmes
He should go to a federal penitentiary until he dies.
dan friesen
Yeah, but that's the thing that, like, everyone, I'm not seeing enough recognition of this.
People talking about, like, what's the connection between Trump and Arpaio?
They were the president and vice president of the Obama's birth certificate is fake club.
Yeah.
They were huge allies in that.
And even Alex's whole bullshit about like Trump didn't know that Arpaio was being taken to court and convicted.
jordan holmes
I don't believe that for a while.
dan friesen
I don't believe that for a fucking second.
jordan holmes
I do.
dan friesen
The two of them are allies.
jordan holmes
To imagine that Trump has allies, to imagine that Trump gives a fuck about his allies if he does have them, seems insane to me.
dan friesen
The only reason Trump cares— No, no, no, no, no, I disagree.
I think normal allies, yes.
But this was a we are racists together allies.
And I think that bond is different.
jordan holmes
It was definitely an illegal immigrant or a we hate anybody.
We hate Mexicans.
We hate everybody kind of.
Anybody not white.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, like, I think bigotry bonds are the coward, hateful person's version of being in a foxhole with someone.
Because the two of them, they conceive of the world around them being an attack on whites all the time and needing to protect whiteness.
And so to them, there is kind of a war that they're in, and they're comrades in that.
And I don't think that necessarily, I mean, I think that Trump would definitely pardon him if he can.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, I agree.
dan friesen
And I think that a big part of that is because the two of them had that birther war together.
jordan holmes
I disagree.
I think it's just one of those.
It's another one of those things that he can see that his dumbass base likes.
Like that idea got floated out, and you could see Fox News and Infowars and all of those people start going, yeah, this is a good thing.
This is a good man.
This is definitely a serial killer that we like.
It's possible.
And so it's just one of those things where, because they have the same feedback loop, wherein Trump says something, Fox News says how it's a great idea, so Trump keeps talking about it.
Or Fox News says this is a great idea, so Trump is like, well, the people who love me are going to love this idea.
And so he talks about it, and so on and so forth.
They just bounce shitty ideas off of each other in order to distract people from the fact that they're burning the world.
They're burning the world.
dan friesen
Yeah, you may be right.
Anyway, we'll never know for sure until it's too late.
So let's move on.
This next clip is a call to action for our international listeners.
You'll know why as this clip goes on.
sheriff joe arpaio
Oh, boy.
He's great overseas.
I think you know more than any secretary of saints.
alex jones
We haven't had a president like this in forever.
They just love it.
But our media says everybody hates him.
dan friesen
They just love him overseas.
If you are an international listener of Knowledge Fight, please send us an email at knowledgefight at gmail.com.
Let us know.
Do they love Trump overseas?
Is that the sense you get?
I would like to know.
I would like to know, because I am not overseas.
I would like to know from the perspective of our listeners all over Europe and other places that are probably listening that haven't contacted me yet.
I'd love to hear from you.
Let me know.
And if the answer is yes, please feel free to say that.
That won't throw me off at all.
I'm willing to integrate that information.
If your perception is that, yeah, some people do like Trump.
jordan holmes
Oh, oh, I was going to say, if our listeners like Trump, that would throw me off quite a bit.
dan friesen
Oh, sure.
jordan holmes
That would throw me off, too.
But if Sonia from Sweden says, you know, hey, a lot of people in Sweden do love Donald Trump.
Sonia's.
dan friesen
Sonia's getting a lot of play on this episode.
jordan holmes
Look, I like her name.
I like Sonia.
dan friesen
It's alliterative, too, with Sweden.
jordan holmes
Sonia from Sweden.
dan friesen
We need to come up with other examples.
jordan holmes
But this next clip, our friend's Outblinker in Glasgow.
dan friesen
And yeah, we have some other people in London and what have you.
Paul Joseph Watson listens, from what I understand.
jordan holmes
Oh, does he?
dan friesen
No.
So this next clip is really.
jordan holmes
He's actually a foreign policy one.
dan friesen
This next clip is really fucked up.
alex jones
I just cannot.
I've never felt such loyalty as I feel towards Trump.
I just feel it's very bad.
jordan holmes
It's bad.
It's a bad thing.
sheriff joe arpaio
I feel sorry for him, but you know what?
alex jones
He's tough.
sheriff joe arpaio
And I said this when I first introduced him two years ago in Phoenix, it was kind of an empty platform, a stage, if you know what I mean.
He was running against 17 people.
But you know what I said?
He's going to be the next president?
And I'm going to say something right now.
My gut tells me he'll go down as one of the greatest presidents we had have ever had in this country.
Mark my words.
unidentified
When it's all over, that's with his reputation.
alex jones
Stay there.
Let's do a few more minutes.
I know you got to go, Sheriff Arpaio.
Legendary fight against tyranny.
We're going to come back and talk about that.
More of that, because you got cut off by the music.
I want to talk about it.
I agree.
I think if he delivers, he'll be as great as George Washington.
There'll be a Trump monument, folks.
It's bigger than Washington.
This is it.
This is real.
dan friesen
I look forward to tearing down that monument one day.
But that's all bullshit.
That's all such bullshit.
That's crazy.
And Joe Arpaio, consider your words marked.
I will mark that down.
jordan holmes
Do you know what's crazy?
What?
I mean, he genuinely does have a chance.
And it's very simple.
If Trump solves climate change, he will go down in history as one of the best presidents in history.
dan friesen
Well, there's a whole.
jordan holmes
And do you know why?
Because there will still be a history.
dan friesen
Well, there's a whole list.
jordan holmes
We won't have one if we don't actually solve climate change.
dan friesen
There's a whole list of things that he theoretically could do.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, he could solve the problem in the Middle East.
jordan holmes
He could totally do that.
dan friesen
He could solve climate change.
unidentified
He could do that too.
dan friesen
He could bring peace to the world.
He could take us off-planet.
He could bring us life extension technology, the holographic med beds.
Right.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
All of these things could be done, but they can't be done.
Some of them for other reasons, just logistical reasons, but other ones are because he's not going to do them.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's not going to solve climate change.
He's not going to bring peace to the Middle East because those things are not in his agenda.
They're not even things he's acting like he's going to do.
jordan holmes
And they're not even things that you can do.
dan friesen
Not really.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So look.
No, this is so fucking pathetic on Alex's part because all he does is talk about, like, just jacks off about the founders and all this stuff about being a huge history buff.
And if he does know anything about history, he can't possibly believe that Trump is going to be heralded as one of the greatest presidents of all time.
jordan holmes
How could you?
Like, what can you hang your hat on when you say that?
dan friesen
Well, the only reason is because he thinks he's going to defeat the globalists.
That's it.
jordan holmes
But even if he defeats the globalists, which, again, Alex has no end game for that.
unidentified
Defeating the globalists doesn't.
jordan holmes
Defeating the globalists by itself doesn't set up an infrastructure.
dan friesen
No, but it does break everyone's brainwashing.
And then we will know that climate change isn't real, and we should actually be putting more CO2 out because the atmosphere is carbon dioxide deprived.
And then we'll all realize that it's all just a big tax scam, carbon taxes and what have you.
And we won't have a bunch of pot-bellied pedophiles running around trying to take our kids.
Bleh.
How can you?
But that's what he's talking about.
He's talking about the idea that Trump is going to take down this imagined group of globalists, these 6,000 people, as Alex has said on the show before, who are taking down the world and trying to depopulate it and take away our sperms and what have you.
jordan holmes
But I mean, even if you agree with what Trump is doing, you have to admit that he's spectacularly bad at doing that.
Like, even if you think what Trump is doing is what should be done.
dan friesen
Ropa dope.
jordan holmes
He's not doing it.
dan friesen
Ropa-dope.
jordan holmes
He's just bad at everything.
dan friesen
Rope-a-dope.
jordan holmes
I don't know how.
Well, you know what?
dan friesen
Fifth-dimensional chess.
jordan holmes
You know, in honesty, maybe what defeats us.
dan friesen
Ropa-dope.
jordan holmes
Like, for real.
The fact that he's just doing so much so poorly all the time, it's hard to maintain any kind of resistance to it.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Like, you're so desensitized to his latest crime that it's like, well, we haven't done anything about it till now.
How do we do something about it later until what?
Well, I think what happens?
dan friesen
I think that it is easy to get distracted by whatever crazy shit he does every week or so.
jordan holmes
Crime.
dan friesen
It seems like it's almost on a schedule.
Yeah.
But everyone, I think, at least most people who I don't know.
I think a lot of people are just hoping that this investigation is progressing and that it's going to work out.
jordan holmes
I think we're going to have to have to do what they did in Seoul.
dan friesen
Just mob.
jordan holmes
Just hundreds of thousands of people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
I mean, what killed you know, what killed Martin Luther King Jr. was he was going to march a million people on Washington.
dan friesen
Holy shit, did you?
jordan holmes
And they could not allow that to happen.
That's what we have to do.
It needs to be a million people.
It needs to be all of the people.
And I just don't know.
dan friesen
We've had million man marches before.
It didn't seem to work.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but was it?
I mean, I'm talking about camping.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, it's really what it is.
We have to go there, and it has to be a better Occupy Wall Street.
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then, but even then, you know, where the world we're living in now, of course the National Guard would be called in.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
I mean, it would be a bloodbath.
dan friesen
You wouldn't almost need to have the National Guard.
Just these militias and the, you know, the alt-right agitators could do a lot of trouble.
I don't know, man.
We'll see.
We'll see what happens.
Anyway, we're going to skip this next clip because I don't want to listen to Joe Arpaio anymore.
jordan holmes
I think we just – is there – like we need a flashpoint.
We need some sort of leader.
Like, we do need a Martin Luther King Jr.
We need somebody who can, we need a Fred Hampton.
dan friesen
Be it.
jordan holmes
We just don't.
dan friesen
It's Jordan now.
jordan holmes
It's definitely not me.
I don't think people are going to rally millions behind a guy who's a soft no on white genocide.
I don't think I'm the guy to do it.
dan friesen
I mean, at least it's a no.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, like I said, I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just Arpaio saying that he and Trump are 95% in sync.
And if that's the case, then Trump does not care about human rights.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
So that's a real bad thing to be saying on the air.
jordan holmes
Justin Timberlake is 95% of in-sync.
dan friesen
Dude.
I was going to make an in-sync joke.
I had it in my back.
jordan holmes
You had it locked and loaded?
dan friesen
I didn't really have an idea in mind, but I was going to bring up their song Digital Get Down.
What?
jordan holmes
I've never listened to any in sync.
They had a song named Digital Get Down.
dan friesen
It was on the No Strings Attached album.
Okay.
And it was called Digital Get Down, and it was all about having cybersex.
It came out in like 2002 or something.
It's real embarrassing looking back.
jordan holmes
I like it.
I like it.
dan friesen
Digital Digital Get Down.
jordan holmes
I'm glad they were reflecting my experience in 2002.
dan friesen
I think it had to do with Skype sex, too, because it was like, baby, baby, I could see you.
Baby, You could see me.
There's a lot of babies in there.
jordan holmes
That sounds like a lot of.
They didn't have songwriters, so that means there was.
No, I'm sorry.
I mean, they weren't songwriters.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
So that means that there's some guy who's just like...
dan friesen
Six babies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Thank God we have the dream now instead of these fucks.
dan friesen
Well, there was also like it was this weird period of time where people were talking about like essentially masturbatory acts and songs a lot because there was that other song about phone sex.
Oops, I did it again.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
It was, I can't remember who it was.
It was an R ⁇ B guy who was singing a song about sex on the line or something like that.
jordan holmes
That's fun.
dan friesen
So there was like in the same year or so, there was Digital Get Down and that phone sex song.
I'm like, what is going on?
What is happening?
Why is this the zeitgeist?
I guess to be fair, let me be clear: Digital Get Down was not a single.
I did have the album, so it might not have been in the zeitgeist.
jordan holmes
It might not even have been on the album.
You may just have made this entire, like you were just trying to justify your own cyber sex, and you're just like, see, there's an in-sync song.
It's popular.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
Everybody's doing it.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
Let me.
I got to confirm now.
I'm really freaking out.
jordan holmes
I spent some time in the AOL chat rooms back in the day.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
Oh, yeah.
Here we go.
InSync.
Digital Get Down.
jordan holmes
Don't play the song.
dan friesen
I'm not going to.
I'd have to play it through the phone.
You're safe for now.
unidentified
Good.
jordan holmes
For now.
For now.
If that's our new intro, I'm going to kill you.
Digital, digital.
If that's our new intro, my soft no becomes a hard yes on white genocide.
dan friesen
So, like I said, skipping this clip, we're going to move on now to post-Joe Arpaio.
You're lucky my internet's going slow.
I was trying to pull up the lyrics.
So, Joe Arpaio's gone.
jordan holmes
Our new button is Knowledge Fight, the podcast where Dan tries to make Jordan kill himself.
dan friesen
Well, just digital get down.
That's kind of what this podcast is.
jordan holmes
No, it's not.
dan friesen
I mean, different contexts.
jordan holmes
No, it's not.
dan friesen
Different context.
jordan holmes
Stop it.
dan friesen
This isn't cybersecurity.
unidentified
Stop it.
No.
dan friesen
No, it is a get-down.
We're having a get-down.
No.
And it's digital.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
It's coming through your ears.
Digitally.
jordan holmes
You did finally get the lyrics up, didn't you?
dan friesen
No, I didn't.
So I told you earlier that we had to remember psychic goblins or these goblins.
Literal goblins.
I showed my cards a little bit too much.
It turns out they're also psychics.
jordan holmes
It's a literal psychic goblin.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yes.
So we're well past Lord of the Rings territory.
dan friesen
Very.
jordan holmes
Now we're getting into.
unidentified
I don't.
jordan holmes
I don't.
Maybe Warcraft?
dan friesen
This is a Mike Down clip because you need to get all the nuance of it.
There are literal psychic goblins.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And then it gets into Alex Jones, maybe almost was a globalist.
We need to hear all of it because we're going to need to parse this.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Because it's real fucked up.
This clip is fucked up.
alex jones
But the ultimate pardon's when you die.
Because we are all bad.
And what you want is the big pardon.
And man, I used to doubt that, but now I've lived a long time.
Feels like a thousand years, actually.
unidentified
And I have seen it's evil.
alex jones
When you hear the same thing out of somebody's mouth, the same weird stuff nobody else ever said in one city and you hear it in another, and the person literally growls at you and you're like, this is Linda Blair.
This is real.
This isn't made up.
This isn't somebody mentally ill.
This isn't somebody acting.
This is a damn demon.
And the moment that happens to you, and somebody says something to you about something happened a month before that nobody knows, and you're looking at somebody who looks like a goblin and is talking and smiling and saying, we're going to get you.
And they just said something nobody knows, you're like, what the hell's going on here?
And the leftists all know this, but they're falling.
They know this is all.
And that's what, oh, there's no God.
There's nothing.
It's all science.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, just go away.
I'll listen to your kids, by the way.
You know, because they only get let off the leash when they're brainwashing a kid, dumbing a kid down, ruining their innocence.
That's kind of the low level.
Then it's corrupt your child.
Have sex with your child.
Abuse your child.
Kill your child.
And they only I've talked to top psychiatrists that treated Dahmer, all of them.
I forget, she's a famous lady.
She's on History Share Channel.
Heard her on Coast to Coast Ham once.
She's been on the show.
What's her name?
She's the Doctor Psychopath.
And I said, you know, I saw it in the movie, the remake of the Manchurian candidate with Denzel Washington, where he's not even alive until they give him the code words and everything's blazing white and he's alive and he feels great when he's carrying out the operations.
And I said, I've talked to people and I've experienced it when I was a little bit younger and almost went that direction.
Let's be honest with folks.
That it's like everything's white hot, everything's slow motion, and all there is is just evil.
And I never was fully turned over to it, but just little glimpses of like, you could have this.
And that's what they are.
Psychopaths are like zombies that have nothing and are totally depressed and tortured and unhappy.
It's not like they don't have feelings.
That's all a lie.
Inside of their world, they are tortured.
And only when they've got a kid in the basement torturing them and they're begging for mommy do they even feel good.
Then they feel really good.
It's a drug.
But other than that, they don't feel bad.
So see, these writers and reporters and people, they don't even feel good till they're doing bad.
And those are the deep secrets right there.
Sounds really hardcore, but it's basically criminology.
unidentified
And it's the truth.
alex jones
That's why so many good men go to war, but then get seduced by the dark side.
We'll be back.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
alex jones
Why?
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
What's why so many good men go to war and get seduced by the dark side?
dan friesen
I was hoping.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
I was hoping you would understand.
jordan holmes
Was it just all of that?
dan friesen
I guess.
Was it just, I relied on you.
jordan holmes
You're looking for the big pardon in the sky.
dan friesen
That's going to heaven.
jordan holmes
Right.
That's the reprieve.
Then you see people who know things in different cities, so you know that it's true.
dan friesen
No, they know the same thing and they say the same thing.
jordan holmes
That's right.
In different cities.
dan friesen
Which might be, hey, fuck you, Alex Jones.
I don't think that that's weird to hear in multiple cities.
jordan holmes
That means they're possessed, though.
Right.
They're Linda Blair.
Right.
Okay.
Then we got the goblins are telling you things months before anybody knows.
dan friesen
No, no, they're from the information is from like a month ago and nobody knows it.
Like you stole a cookie or something like that.
Okay.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
All righty.
Is that what he's talking about?
dan friesen
It's a minor example, but yes, that's.
jordan holmes
I thought I hear him say they know it before anybody else.
Okay.
dan friesen
No, it's something from the past.
unidentified
From your past.
dan friesen
No one knows.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
All righty.
dan friesen
And then they look like goblins and they're saying we're going to get you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is schizophrenia.
jordan holmes
No, that's normal.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's absolutely normal.
Now, these are all leftists.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And again, I'm sorry, the thing cut out there when he's talking about the leftists.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there was a skip.
dan friesen
All he said there was that the leftists are fallen.
They all know this.
They all know this stuff.
jordan holmes
If we all know that we are literal psychic goblins.
dan friesen
And clones.
jordan holmes
And clones.
With five different parents.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And we are all 6'4.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Why are we doing this again?
dan friesen
Because we're fallen?
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Are we like, do you, so that's.
No.
No.
That's still not why good men go to war and get seduced by the dark side.
dan friesen
So then the globalists want you to abuse your children.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, that's the only time that the leftists, the goblins, are really let off their leash is when they get to torture children.
dan friesen
Yes, that's what cut out a tiny bit was the introduction to that idea.
Yeah.
The sort of transition between the psychic goblins and the leftists only feel comfortable when they're abusing.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
And then Denzel taught him about psychopaths in the Manchurian candidate.
Which he chose the remake.
dan friesen
This is what I want to talk a little bit more about, is that idea that Alex almost went down this path.
jordan holmes
That's the thing that confused me.
dan friesen
Because I don't think it was Denzel's choice to be a Manchurian candidate.
I think that was being done to him.
jordan holmes
I mean, don't bring that.
Don't bring reality into this.
Well, we're fighting literal goblins.
dan friesen
Am I correct?
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, you're absolutely correct.
dan friesen
I haven't seen the remake, but I assume.
jordan holmes
No, it's the same plot.
He's being mind-controlled in order to commit all these crimes.
dan friesen
Alex Jones must believe that at some point he was subject to mind control of that level.
jordan holmes
Possibly.
dan friesen
No, I think he has to believe that.
And then he could have gone along with it, but broke free.
jordan holmes
Because he saw all the things that it could have gotten to him.
So what he's really saying is that all the good men who go to war and then get seduced by the dark side are like him when he was a child, when he almost got seduced by the dark side and what it could get him.
But now that we know this, we know that everybody who is good that goes into the military is hypnotized.
dan friesen
Right, and they get seduced.
jordan holmes
And they are all Manchurian candidates.
dan friesen
They get seduced by, as he describes it, a bright light, painful bright light.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Hypnotists.
unidentified
This is insane.
dan friesen
This is schizophrenic hallucinations basically being described.
jordan holmes
It sure sounds like it.
It doesn't seem like it's any other explanation.
dan friesen
And we're getting back to that end of the March 30th episode, kind of drunk here.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
like he yeah absolutely his tone is changing there is like a there's also this over sharing sort of thing As usual.
Right, but I mean, like, this stuff, he shouldn't be saying stuff like this on the air.
This is really easy to see through.
Like, you're.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but those are the deep secrets, Dan.
dan friesen
You're not using that.
jordan holmes
It sounds a little hardcore, but those are the deep secrets.
dan friesen
You're not using metaphorical language.
You really think this.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is something you believe.
There are psychic goblins that are coming up to you and threatening you.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That is something that I think is relevant to his listeners.
I think they should understand that this is a crazy person that they're listening to.
And, hey, if you want to listen to a crazy person for entertainment, God bless you.
I've watched a lot of Steve-O videos in my day.
That's fine.
Not his stand-up.
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much.
dan friesen
I get the entertainment value of someone who has a little bit wrong with them.
That's most of stand-up, to be fair.
But if you're going to be listening to a guy who believes that there are psychic goblins who are running around and attacking him or threatening him, and that a lot of people who disagree with him are clones with five parents that are, you know.
jordan holmes
They got no soul, baby.
dan friesen
They got no soul.
I would suggest don't take political advice from that guy.
Also, don't take economic advice from that guy.
Also, don't buy his off-brand herbs and pills.
jordan holmes
Oh, did you see that the scientist went after goop?
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
And it's the same shit.
dan friesen
Great.
No, I'm not sure.
jordan holmes
Of course we knew that.
Of course we knew that.
dan friesen
Yes, of course.
But beyond that, I really need to impress upon people, this guy is not a political pundit.
He may never have been, but boy, he is not now.
He is a drunk and probably a mentally ill fucking lunatic.
And I would not use those words about someone else who's struggling, but because he's such a dick, it has people like Alexander Dugan and Joe Arpaio on his show, I'm pretty fine calling him a fucking lunatic dickweed.
So, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, generally, as a mentally ill person, I usually try and take the side.
You know, there's a lot of stuff that mentally ill people have to deal with that.
People who don't have mental illness don't have to do that.
I hope Alex Jones gets hit by a truck.
Twice.
dan friesen
It would definitely cure the schizophrenia.
jordan holmes
It would definitely cure the schizophrenia.
dan friesen
And I wonder about that.
I wonder about the brain damage that may or may not be there.
jordan holmes
When was the last time he went to a doctor?
dan friesen
Dr. Group?
jordan holmes
When was the last time he went to a real doctor?
dan friesen
Dr. Jerome Corsi?
jordan holmes
When was the last time he went to a medical professional?
dan friesen
Rap aport?
jordan holmes
When was the last time somebody who obtained a medical degree from a teaching university saw Alex Jones?
dan friesen
Like on the street?
jordan holmes
I looked him in the eye.
Alex Jones sitting on that little paper on the table.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I would.
jordan holmes
I want to see the physical results of this.
dan friesen
I would actually like to kind of bait Alex into suing us.
jordan holmes
That'd be fun.
dan friesen
Because if he did, in Discovery, I think we could demand that he have a psych evaluation.
jordan holmes
That's probable.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I guess in his divorce or the custody battle, they had a psych evaluation.
The lady said that he has a narcissistic personality disorder.
jordan holmes
No, unless it was entirely about the show.
Because if it's entirely about the show, then we can use clips.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Because it was in the divorce, they couldn't use the show.
dan friesen
Well, no, I'm not talking about that.
I'm trying to find ways that we could trick him into going to see a doctor.
Because even though I hate him, and even though I think he's done a lot of damage to the world, I think if he got treatment, he might be happier.
unidentified
Yeah, what if we got on actual meds instead of his pills?
jordan holmes
Yeah, what if his staff just slipped him antipsychotics every morning?
dan friesen
I wonder if he would be as focused on these imaginary globalists if he was getting treatment.
Like, if he was actually on the medication he clearly needs, he wouldn't be seeing literal goblins everywhere.
He probably would still have terrible reading comprehension skills.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So there's a decent chance he would still read eco-science and think that John P. Holdren was saying that they're trying to taint the water supply.
But he probably wouldn't see demons all over the place.
Probably.
jordan holmes
Good or bad thing.
unidentified
Well, I mean, we wouldn't have a show.
jordan holmes
No, he's too far in.
Even if he stopped seeing literal goblins, he would still have to try and get his back.
dan friesen
Get him on those meds 10 years ago, and maybe he could have stayed just being a crazy anti-government.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he could have become Joe Rogan.
dan friesen
Sure.
Nah, he's not funny enough.
jordan holmes
No, that's definitely true.
dan friesen
And he's not curious.
jordan holmes
That's definitely true.
dan friesen
Joe Rogan, for all his faults, I think one of the main reasons he's having these people on is a sincere curiosity about this group that everyone hates.
And the unfortunate thing is his curiosity is leading him to validate them as opposed to understand why everyone hates them.
jordan holmes
Instead of doing that, he could read the shit that they wrote.
dan friesen
That would be helpful if he did some research.
But be that as it may, we have two more clips.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
these two clips are fucking end of the night sad fucked up uh drunk uh just like running out of gas alex this is four ways to learn alex to a t uh Here, this one is a sales pitch that is really sad.
alex jones
I'm almost ashamed to come before you and say, Fundus.
But if you only turned loose the power you have financially, my job would be a lot easier.
And I'm not complaining.
You've already done so much.
We sell the vest supplements.
They're just things that everybody's deficient in, most folks.
Real pure iodine your body can absorb.
X tube.
I said the sell win yesterday.
I've got it right after this broadcast ends.
And who's taking over Owen Schroyer?
dan friesen
So I left that in, even though it's irrelevant to our interests because Owen Schroyer will come back up in the last clip in one of the saddest fucking sentences I've ever heard Alex say.
jordan holmes
That's rough.
That was brutal.
dan friesen
And if people think that I was disheartening.
Well, one of the things, too, is whenever I talk about Alex Jones being drunk, some of the qualifications that I give are this sort of shit, that tone right there, a lot of the other behaviors that we've pointed out.
And then also he was drinking out of a suspicious cup during the show.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
Yeah, generally, he'll have a coffee mug or something like that.
He had a white paper cup.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's the cup.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I don't know.
It doesn't really prove anything, but it is weird.
jordan holmes
Might as well be a red Dixie cup.
dan friesen
It is a little bit weird.
I don't know.
Anyway, this last clip is a fucking bummer.
And it's the end of his three hours.
He's about to hand the baton off to Owen Schroyer.
I actually don't think it's Owen Schroer.
I think Paul Joseph Watson is the fourth hour.
He thinks it's Owen Schroyer who's going to do it, but it's PJ Dubbs.
Gotcha.
But this is profoundly sad.
It is a bummer.
I still hate him.
I don't give him any leeway.
He gets no corner, as it were.
But one of the sentences he says in relation to Owen Schroyer, like I said, is you'll see.
alex jones
I didn't get to a handful of these clips that everybody played in the player.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
He's going to play the 77 words.
dan friesen
Sorry.
jordan holmes
No, no problem.
I just forgot that he was going to play the entire 77 minutes.
dan friesen
And he didn't play any of them.
jordan holmes
And he didn't play.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Didn't play any of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He didn't get to a handful of them.
A handful of the 75 minutes.
He did cover a couple of minutes.
dan friesen
No, I didn't get to a grip of these clips.
So we're starting from the top here because you've got to fucking hear this.
alex jones
I didn't get to a handful of these clips that everybody did a great job, but I'm telling Owen Schroyer, don't be like me.
Come on, play the 15 clips we've got.
Comment on them.
Talk about them.
Get them all in.
Because I want to take more calls, and I want to play the clips.
I have them get all these great clips that are so important, and then I don't get to them.
So that's all coming up in the next hour.
InfoWars.com has a lot of the posts at newswars.com.
But just briefly here, InfoWarsStore.com.
We are doing pretty good, but my gut tells me I've got to sue some people because they're cutting everybody else off and trying to cut us off, and I put up with it.
unidentified
Go for it.
alex jones
Just kill.
I'm doing okay right now, and then I'm giving in to them.
So I got to fight him.
jordan holmes
Start suing.
unidentified
Please.
alex jones
I'm not looking for a fight, but you know what?
You're going to punch me upside the head.
I'm going to get you.
But I'm not going to just throw a punch and do nothing.
I want to get a full uppercut when your mouth's open and break your teeth off.
And if you need another measure, I'll punch you right in the throat.
And if that doesn't do it, I'll stomp you on the head politically.
And we could have done all that, haven't we?
We're beating the hell out of them.
But they're coming back at us.
And the knives they shove into me actually feel good.
I'll be honest.
I just want to make sure my heart keeps pumping all the way until I've squeezed the life out of their little chicken neck.
Then I can roll over and die.
jordan holmes
Please.
alex jones
We're going to beat these people.
And as long as you financially support us, as long as you realize that they're trying to block us, our articles, our videos, constantly, that the act of you getting those out is victory over this trash.
And that we're not just doing it in vain.
That is so wonderful.
We've won the marketplace of ideas.
And that's why the globals are coming after us is because we didn't take the deal.
We didn't get on our knees so the devil could unzip his pants and do what he does.
dan friesen
That's what the devil does.
jordan holmes
What's the devil do?
alex jones
The devil didn't just want to destroy everybody.
I wouldn't fight so hard.
But there's no giving golden violence.
There's no quarter.
And it's not like you just give in, the devil kills you and it goes away.
He gets you forever.
So he makes you want to be in that old farmhouse down that basement with the devil pulling your teeth out forever.
I suggest you do everything you can to beat these folks.
And not for yourself, for the children.
dan friesen
And that's code.
jordan holmes
For the children.
dan friesen
And that's code forgive me your money.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's so.
jordan holmes
Not for yourself.
That's such like he thinks he's John Wayne in a cowboy movie.
alex jones
Oh, don't be like me.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I'm just fighting the good fight.
alex jones
You got to be a better man than me, Owen Shroyer.
dan friesen
Well, there's that.
alex jones
Owen Shroyer, you got to be a better man.
dan friesen
There's that.
But then.
jordan holmes
Owen, you got to be a better man.
dan friesen
I think that there's actually a different thought going on in his head.
I think he wants to look like that.
But what he's actually saying, if you look at what he says immediately after, he's telling Owen Schroyer, don't be bad at your job.
Get to the point, Owen Schroyer.
Don't be bad at your job.
jordan holmes
Play the clips.
Take the calls.
Do your job well.
dan friesen
I've been on the air for three hours, and I've mostly just drunkenly rambled about the devil.
I said I was going to play a bunch of Trump clips.
I said I was going to take calls.
I just really talked to that one anti-Semite.
I don't know what was going on.
Look, don't be like me.
Be better at your job.
But I think there's even a further subtext of it because what he does immediately after is go into a sad fucking sales pitch that also involves, we're doing pretty good.
I'm going to have to sue some people.
So what he's also saying is, don't be like me.
I have to run around trying to get all this money to fight the globalists.
Be a news man, Owen Schroyer.
Don't be like me having to hawk water filters from Big Berkey to make the bills come together.
Don't do that.
Be the fight.
Fight the news fight.
I can't do it.
I don't have the skills.
Spoiler alert, neither does Owen Schroyer.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
dan friesen
I think what he's saying is he's really internalizing the fact that he is just a fucking salesman.
That all he does is get up and ramble about the devil and make shit up and scream about the globalists wanting to take your children to scare you just enough to keep you around so he can fucking sell you shit.
jordan holmes
And I think to stomp on your neck politically.
dan friesen
I think he realizes that.
I think he realizes that his role is not a trusted, respected news person because he doesn't fucking talk about any news past the headline.
So he knows I think it hurts him.
And in this fucking end of the show, noon drunk, like, I think he's just getting to like, Owen, don't do it this way.
Don't do it this way.
Even in the middle of fucking talking about how they're winning, he's still just like, at what cost?
jordan holmes
Look at all my money.
Look at all of it, Owen.
You'll never have any of it.
alex jones
But look at it.
You don't want it.
unidentified
All the money in the world doesn't make you a respected journalist.
dan friesen
The truth is, I have five dads.
I have no soul, baby.
jordan holmes
Ain't got no soul, baby.
dan friesen
What a fucking idiot.
I feel really bad for him, but I also, at the same time, I don't care.
jordan holmes
No, I don't give a shit.
Usually, I can find some kind of sympathy in these whenever we, because there's always that whiplash whenever we do some of these where it's like, I hope you get, I hope you die.
I hope you die right now.
And then he does something and it's like, you're just a sad, broken shell of a man.
But then I remember that he's fucking calling Karl Rove a Down syndrome midget.
Yeah.
He said midget retard.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Which two words that shouldn't be used.
No, and are offensive, singularly, and horrific back-to-back.
dan friesen
Yeah, and covering for his biggest political ally who goes around and calls everyone Negroes and shit like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
And he defended Joe goddamn Arpaio.
jordan holmes
Stop.
dan friesen
You're right.
jordan holmes
Sorry.
dan friesen
But stop.
jordan holmes
Sorry.
dan friesen
It's late.
jordan holmes
I understand.
dan friesen
So, anyway.
jordan holmes
And he defended goddamn Joe Arpaio.
dan friesen
There you go.
alex jones
Dan.
dan friesen
There you go.
jordan holmes
Dan, don't be like me.
dan friesen
I won't.
jordan holmes
Don't shout.
alex jones
Don't get angry at things.
dan friesen
I try not to.
unidentified
Just be your cold, detached, heartless self.
jordan holmes
Just don't.
I'm sorry.
That got weird.
Now I'm the one who's drunk and said.
dan friesen
Speaking of cold detachment, if you'd like to be cold and detached, you can go to our website.
Knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
That is a great transition.
dan friesen
I'm not entirely sure it's accurate.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Nope.
We have our website, knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
I think if you're going to Knowledge Fight or if you're engaging with us, to me, that signifies that there is, I would assume, something that you deeply, deeply care about.
dan friesen
Or you're a mess.
One of the two.
But anyway, regardless.
jordan holmes
Or you like us, which we're messes, so great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We're all in this together, cats.
dan friesen
On KnowledgeFight.com.
We've got a lot of stuff up there, a lot of other content you can find, some writing and stuff.
Also, there's a button that says support the show.
If you want to click that, you can become a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
We're going to get the second round of buttons sent out here very shortly.
dan friesen
And we have a live show coming up at North Bar in Chicago on the 9th of September at 9 o'clock.
jordan holmes
It's on the 9th of September at 9 o'clock.
dan friesen
Triple 9.
jordan holmes
That sounds very easy to remember, Danny.
dan friesen
999.
jordan holmes
Dan, could you say that for me one more time?
dan friesen
It's Herman Kane's tax plan.
That's why we're doing the show.
jordan holmes
That's why we're doing it.
dan friesen
Herman Kane, baby.
jordan holmes
That's the trick.
dan friesen
The guy who Roger Stone called Mandingo.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
Or on Facebook.
jordan holmes
If you see Joe Arpaio, you know what to do.
dan friesen
Yeah, kick him in the balls.
jordan holmes
Kick him right in the balls.
dan friesen
Also, you can find us on iTunes.
Please follow, subscribe, give us a review.
It'd be great.
We really appreciate it.
We'll get a picture up there one of these days.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
If you want to lead millions of people and march to the Capitol House, camp out there until something is actually done about our horrible, criminal, monstrous president and his kleptocratic cronies run by the fucking Russian government at this fucking point.
dan friesen
I'm excited to see you.
jordan holmes
If you want to do all of these things, if you want to do all of these things, please do.
And I will send you a button for sure.
dan friesen
Look, also, I know we're at the end of the thing, and we usually do a bit.
jordan holmes
Do we do a bit?
dan friesen
I've got to go to the bathroom, though.
I'm going to cut this short and just say, John Raphael, go fuck yourself.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your work.
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