Today, Dan and Jordan time travel back to 2011 to satisfy the request of Policy Wonk Charles. Dan tells Jordan all about what Alex Jones was up to six and a half years ago, and the topics covered include: What was Alex selling before he started selling weird pills? Which president may or may not have lived a secret life? How much does Alex know about Austin banking? Where should you hide your guns, and where should you NOT hide your guns?
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
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I'm a first-time caller. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Yes, we do talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Maybe a lot. | ||
| Maybe a lot? | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Is there a reason people would listen to that other than just two dudes? | ||
| No, it's neither of those things. | ||
| I know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| And that's our dynamic. | ||
| Today, we are going to be doing a dedicated time travel episode, because a donator has requested us to do so, so we get to take a break from our normal rigmarole bullshit and get into the good stuff. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| But before we do, I want to take a second to talk a little bit about the events that have transpired in the world of Alex Jones since we last recorded. | ||
| He's been on vacation, apparently in Seattle, not sure why, and... | ||
| A video went viral. | ||
| Went mega viral. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Of someone throwing coffee on him. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| And we had a debate last night, you and I, about whether or not that was real. | ||
| And a lot of people seem to think it was fake. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And my position on it is it's not fake. | ||
| The argument that people have that it was fake is that the guy who ends up throwing the coffee on him is a wrestling promoter. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that is not enough to convince me that it's fake. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| The reason that I think it's real is because that entire video, he is trying to pick fights with strangers on the street. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so someone throwing coffee on him is kind of a reasonable outcome for that. | ||
| I would hope so. | ||
| If he is a wrestling promoter, that could mean that he's hired to do that, or it could just mean that he's the type of guy who's willing to start some shit. | ||
| He's a weirdo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's possible. | ||
| Alex is trying to play it up as he got hit with fiery hot coffee. | ||
| And if you watch the video, he doesn't even flinch. | ||
| No. | ||
| They described it as boiling hot coffee. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Either his adrenaline is so jacked up from, like, I know I'm going to try and pick a fight with a stranger. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just like, oh, burning coffee doesn't do anything to me. | ||
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Or... | |
| It was tepid coffee at best. | ||
| Right, like he's the guy from Split. | ||
| That's really what's going on. | ||
| I don't encourage people to assault Alex Jones, obviously. | ||
| I still think it's funny, but I don't think it's the right thing to do. | ||
| It's much better to deconstruct his bullshit worldview, but if I ran into him in the street... | ||
| And I had coffee. | ||
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I might throw it in. | |
| I would hope to. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, I would hope I had it in me. | ||
| I don't know how I would respond. | ||
| So, regardless, we don't have enough information yet to confirm nor deny whether or not it was real. | ||
| So, I am going to give a conditional policy wonk status. | ||
| We're not playing the sound effect. | ||
| But you can do that if you want, but we're holding off on it. | ||
| Conditional. | ||
| It's... | ||
| Not going to give them the drop. | ||
| Hopefully someday we will. | ||
| If we can prove that he's not fake, then he will get an honorary policy wonk status. | ||
| But just to make sure that his name is out there, it is Jake Stratton. | ||
| Yeah, that's gotten out there. | ||
| I think I've seen some people posting about it. | ||
| We don't have a scoop or anything. | ||
| No, no, no, by no means. | ||
| But we're going to get into this episode, but before we do, I'd like to give an updated policy wonk status for someone who has donated. | ||
| Our friend Mike B. donated to the show very generously, and he has requested that he get a new rank, an entirely new rank of policy wonk. | ||
| Mike B., you are officially a Zionist Protocol Wonk! | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| So thank you very much for donating. | ||
| We appreciate it. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Now, to the business at hand, Jordan. | ||
| You are a Pez Defeater, is what you are. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Thank you, Mike B. Today, we are going to be going over the episode of Alex Jones' show from January 7th, 2011. | ||
| Because we got a new policy wonk who donated on the time travel level. | ||
| I'd like to give a shout out to him. | ||
| Welcome him to the team. | ||
| What's up out there, Charles? | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| So Charles got in touch with me. | ||
| Is it Charles Krauthammer? | ||
| It is. | ||
| That's a weird one. | ||
| That's a weird one for him to get in touch with you, but I'm glad to hear it. | ||
| He reached out and he said that he wanted us to cover a specific episode, but felt it was a long shot. | ||
| Because it is in 2011, it's sort of outside of the database that I'm pulling from. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So I pulled some strings. | ||
| Did some deep diving. | ||
| Pulled some strings. | ||
| Of my own effort. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I did a deep dive into YouTube, and I found some poorly labeled episodes, and I found this episode, and boy, thank God I did. | ||
| Because this shit is wild. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm not even going to tease at all what happens, but you're going to love this ride. | ||
| January 7th, you know, it's the beginning of the year, 2011. | ||
| Why are you setting the scene like it's a Ken Burns Civil War documentary? | ||
| We have just celebrated another coming around the sun. | ||
| The earth has survived. | ||
| I did some looking into what was going on in the world at that time to see what is Alex missing. | ||
| There wasn't a ton of stuff going on. | ||
| It wasn't a big news day or anything. | ||
| But one of his primary narratives is about a supposed bombing. | ||
| That took place in Maryland the day before. | ||
| Supposed? | ||
| Well, I say supposed because I looked it up and I found an article about it. | ||
| I'll just read to you from the article from CNN. | ||
| A message found in at least one of two incendiary devices that were mailed to two Maryland state offices complained about Homeland Security road signs in the state. | ||
| According to a government official with access to information on the investigation, two Maryland employees suffered slightly burned fingers when they opened packages containing devices that set off a flash of fire, smoke, and sulfur smell, authorities say. | ||
| So it's fucked up because they were being sent to Martin O'Malley's office, was one of them, and the other one was directed to the Maryland Department of Transportation office. | ||
| So it is fucked up that people are sending maybe offensive things to state offices. | ||
| That's messed up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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But in the end, it wasn't that big a deal because they were poorly constructed and they ended up just slightly burning people's fingers. | |
| Were they supposed to be like a full-on bomb? | ||
| Or was it like the guy was sending Joker guns that shoot out bang with the little flag? | ||
| Here's what I would say about that. | ||
| If someone were trying to send a giant bomb, It would be counterproductive to include a note. | ||
| That is pretty true. | ||
| He's going to read the note! | ||
| It seems to me that it was kind of a flashbang kind of thing in order to get attention to the note that accompanies it. | ||
| And so I don't think it's necessarily the biggest deal in the world. | ||
| Also, he was angry about signs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just signs. | ||
| Well, here's a quote from the note. | ||
| Report suspicious activity. | ||
| Total bullshit. | ||
| You've created a self-fulfilling prophecy. | ||
| So he's mad about, like, the see something, say something. | ||
| So he's a fucking lunatic. | ||
| Probably also... | ||
| Who can build flashbacks. | ||
| Probably a sovereign citizen, if I had to guess. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| If you're mad about signs, we got a lot going on. | ||
| Alex has a little bit of a take on this, about whether or not it's fake. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's dealing with it. | ||
| Whether or not it's a false flag. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, gotcha. | ||
| And Alex is dealing with it as if it is, like, a huge bomb. | ||
| He's dealing with it and presenting it as, like, this is very serious, as opposed to a flashbang. | ||
| But here we go. | ||
| Here's his take. | ||
| You're going to see more and more staged attacks, but if... | ||
| The staged attack has too many whistleblowers on the inside. | ||
| They will pull back from it, and then will stop hyping it. | ||
| And that's the real mark of this, what we see going on in Maryland with the two packages that blew up at state offices that were being sorted on their way reportedly to the governor's office. | ||
| We're now seeing almost no news on this, and they're not hyping it and fear-mongering. | ||
| Now, that means... | ||
| One of two things. | ||
| It could be a few other things, but two big things that the probability studies and research shows, 90% chance it's one of those two things, just to give you a dead reckoning number. | ||
| A, these were real terror attacks. | ||
| Because the rule of thumb is, real terror attacks are not hyped, are not promoted. | ||
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Or... | |
| They had provocateurs in there running this, and a good FBI agent or state police or others have recorded it and have tried to release it. | ||
| So, Alex, if you want to parse what he's saying there, he's saying that there's not a lot of media attention being given to this. | ||
| And the reason for that is one of two things. | ||
| Either it's real or it's fake. | ||
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Which is, like, great, great. | |
| Very helpful. | ||
| It's wonderful. | ||
| Now, here's my favorite part, though. | ||
| There's a 90% chance it's either real or fake. | ||
| Which means there's a 10% chance there's something entirely new. | ||
| Probably Space Beans. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| It's like Schrodinger's cat. | ||
| By observing it, that other 10% means that, who knows, it could be both at the same time. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So that is sort of just a good sense of his analytical skills at this point in his career, which is great. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| He's been on the air for like 17 years at this point, and the best he's got is, it's either real or fake. | ||
| But I'm going to dress it up in weird language so people are distracted from the fact that I'm saying a truism. | ||
| But, most of this episode is pretty weak. | ||
| It's pretty soft. | ||
| Like, I would say two-thirds of the episode is entirely ignorable, and then the other third is outrageously amazing. | ||
| So, we're not going to be covering a ton of stuff, because he just does... | ||
| He breaks down how, like, the government is admitting that fluoride's bad for you. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| A lot of fairly standard stuff. | ||
| So, we don't need to talk about a ton of that. | ||
| But... | ||
| This is super fascinating to me. | ||
| Because these episodes are full episodes, they don't have the commercials taken out like the rebroadcasts do that I see of current episodes. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So we get to hear what he was advertising in 2011 before he got really successful. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And it's really fascinating because now all his commercials are for basically just his products. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But in 2011... | ||
| He was still working on advertisers, buying space? | ||
| He had to take on ads. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| And some of these ads are super fucked up. | ||
| And here is the first one. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
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New year, new way to smoke, and it's Totally Wicked. | |
| Introducing Totally Wicked e-liquid electronic cigarettes, the highest quality e-cigarettes in the world. | ||
| With Totally Wicked e-liquid cigarettes, there's no flame, no secondhand smoke, no carbon monoxide, no tar, no unsightly brown teeth or fingers, and no lingering smell. | ||
| So Alex Jones is fucking doing vape commercials. | ||
| There's a new way to smoke, and it's totally wicked. | ||
| Yeah, that's amazing. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| When I heard that, I was like, whoa. | ||
| First of all, starting a commercial with, there's a new way to smoke. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| Is this 2011 or, like, 1947? | ||
| Like, what's going on here? | ||
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Lucky Strike brand e-cigarettes. | |
| Vape commercial. | ||
| You can trust us, because we never lied before. | ||
| By the way, vape commercial is where we're starting. | ||
| The commercial stuff. | ||
| By the end of it, you're like, I'm so blown away by these commercials. | ||
| So, at some point in the episode, Alex wants to get into celebrities a little bit. | ||
| And here's his take on some... | ||
| Some names that we're going to recognize. | ||
| I know Brad Pitt's seen my films, and I'm going to leave it at that, and likes them. | ||
| But to say Angelina Jolie is evil, without proof, though she made some Illuminati movies, I tend to not like her and don't trust her. | ||
| And I know Bono is involved with the Rockefellers. | ||
| I know he now is a front of the Bella Melinda Gates Foundation and is evil. | ||
| It takes me time to research something before I can 100% say the whole thing is rotten to the core. | ||
| So, I mean, he's lying. | ||
| How much time? | ||
| He's lying about that. | ||
| Does he have a timetable for us? | ||
| Like, does he give it a week? | ||
| Research takes as long as it takes. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| There is no timetable to it. | ||
| So, generally, we're talking about 30 to 45 seconds. | ||
| But Alex is lying about, like, I need to research stuff before I say it. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But, back then, that's a pretty restrained version of Alex. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Now, I don't think that Brad Pitt is a fan of his. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Where are we on Sandra Bullock? | ||
| Calm down. | ||
| It's surprising to me, though, to hear, like, nowadays, modern Alex Jones would be talking about Angelina Jolie drinking blood in rituals and stuff like that. | ||
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I mean, I halfway want to talk about that right now. | |
| The fact that he's like, now she's made some Illuminati movies and that worries me, but I don't know if I can say that she's evil. | ||
| Like, that's crazy to me. | ||
| That's so restrained. | ||
| Where is this even coming from? | ||
| Why is he talking about... | ||
| Is this like right at Mr. and Mrs. Smith whenever they finally got together in real life? | ||
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2011? | |
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| No, it's been a lot longer than that, right? | ||
| Yeah, I think it's because she's heading up like UN initiatives and stuff like that. | ||
| Okay, alright. | ||
| Because she got super involved in activism. | ||
| I mean, I think she always had that sort of bent to her, but... | ||
| In terms of working with the UN, that might be around 2011. | ||
| And Brad Pitt is still filming A River Runs Through It, right? | ||
| Possibly. | ||
| My time is not good. | ||
| I made a real big deal out of how much I loved Seven Years in Tibet when I was younger. | ||
| I don't know if I stand by that proclamation. | ||
| I remember it being pretty good. | ||
| What's the one where he's on the ship after he gets the really, really long hair? | ||
| That's Seven Years in Tibet. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| Fight Club. | ||
| No! | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| It's like in the 1800s, he marries a Native American woman. | ||
| Oh, seven years in Tibet. | ||
| God damn you! | ||
| So here's another commercial. | ||
| Folks, you've heard us talk about HomeGain before. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| HomeGain is now offering a special promo where you get up to $150 when you buy or sell a home with a HomeGain agent you find through their Find a Realtor program. | ||
| HomeGain lets you compare realtors anonymously. | ||
| It's easy. | ||
| Go to HomeGain150.com to find and compare realtors anonymously. | ||
| Enter promo code HomeGain150. | ||
| And receive up to $150 when you close a deal with a HomeGain agent. | ||
| Share the HomeGain 150 promo code with your friends via Facebook, Twitter, text, and more. | ||
| Look for Max the HomeGain Gorilla to find out more about how HomeGain is going to pay you. | ||
| Alex had to do that. | ||
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Alex had to tell you to look out for Max the Home Game Gorilla. | |
| Well, one, that sounds exactly like something he would say now, but it wouldn't be about the website. | ||
| And it wouldn't be for like, you know, 75 bucks or whatever. | ||
| Do you know what? | ||
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What? | |
| It was 150. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Do you know what? | ||
| I think he missed his calling. | ||
| He's good. | ||
| He's a good voiceover guy. | ||
| If you didn't have the baggage of having listened to him say so many horrible things, the tenor of the voice is great. | ||
| Oh, so good. | ||
| It instantly clicks into my head bigotry, though, so I can't enjoy it. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Get that man an agent. | ||
| It's homegame.com. | ||
| Because his movies are terrible. | ||
| I looked into this a little bit. | ||
| I looked into Home Game. | ||
| I love the world we're living in now. | ||
| 2011 is perfect. | ||
| I looked into home gain. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| I looked into the protocols of the elders of Zion. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| That's still in play. | ||
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I know it's still in play, but that's my point. | |
| Basically what it is is a website where they have a bunch of realtors who are paying for their service to be linked up with people to get... | ||
| Leads and proposals and stuff like that. | ||
| So there's a site where people can give their experiences about products and stuff. | ||
| And someone opened a thread about, like, is this nonsense? | ||
| You know, that sort of thing. | ||
| A lot of the responses are, this is a scam. | ||
| Here's a response. | ||
| Homegain.com is a waste of time. | ||
| I received a lot of fake leads with wrong phone numbers, wrong emails. | ||
| I do not recommend to anyone using this service. | ||
| Here's another one. | ||
| I have had home gain for three months. | ||
| I've done six quote-unquote proposals where there is a prospect that asks for info. | ||
| Not one has even opened my proposal, let alone rejected it. | ||
| Never even opened. | ||
| I think it's a waste. | ||
| That's pretty much the trend of all this stuff. | ||
| Alex Jones is just hawking weirdo scam product at this point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex Baldwin would not be happy with the website, is what you're saying. | ||
| Vapes and a scam home owner... | ||
| What is it supposed to be? | ||
| It's like a realtor site. | ||
| So it's like find a... | ||
| They have a team of realtors who have signed in to them. | ||
| Like these people who are responding are realtors. | ||
| Those are the realtors. | ||
| Who have signed in to use their service. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then people who have a house or are looking for a house are supposed to go to Home Game to be matched with these realtors who are paying some sort of a cut of whatever for the use of the service. | ||
| I'm glad that Alex Jones has this revenue stream. | ||
| It's delightful. | ||
| Who's running Home Game? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That much research I did not do. | ||
| Is it a realtor? | ||
| Is it a scammer? | ||
| Venture capitalist? | ||
| Venture scam artist? | ||
| I would assume of some sort. | ||
| So Alex Jones has two interviews on this show. | ||
| One is amazing, and that's going to be the end of this episode. | ||
| The other is with this lady named Charlie Izzerbeet. | ||
| That is not a real name! | ||
| It is. | ||
| That's not a real name. | ||
| She apparently worked in the Reagan White House, and she is... | ||
| I'm going to say generously she's a lunatic. | ||
| Charlie Izzerbeet? | ||
| Charlotte. | ||
| Charlotte Izzerbeet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, one of the things that she wants to talk about is that intentionally Reagan was dumbing down the school systems. | ||
| It's debatable. | ||
| I buy that. | ||
| The other thing is that everyone is a globalist, basically, in her conception. | ||
| She wants to talk about a group called the CNP. | ||
| The Council on National Policy, which Alex believes she is going to expose on his show as being the right-wing version of the Council on Foreign Relations. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So that's the liberal wing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And now we're getting the dark side to our lights. | ||
| The right-wing version of the dialectic is the CNP. | ||
| She does not get into that very much, though Alex keeps trying to push her down that aisle. | ||
| Like, this is why I got you on the show, wanted to talk about this. | ||
| And then she goes off into all these other... | ||
| Bizarre directions. | ||
| She tells a long story about how she tried to get everybody in the CNP and every Republican congressperson and politician to join her to get out of the UN and no one responded to her and that proves that they're all globalists. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| So globalist is her beat. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Don't point at me. | ||
| Don't fucking congratulate yourself. | ||
| It's not a real name. | ||
| It's a boring interview, and it's kind of unwieldy to try and get clips from, because she keeps sort of going down weird paths. | ||
| But here is a clip of her saying something that I don't think is true in 2011. | ||
| Not true now. | ||
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And we don't have much time today, so really it's probably just as well, because it's better when I don't have a lot of time than I have to do bullets. | |
| What? | ||
| You're wasting time! | ||
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This is terrible to have to tell people this, but we are merging right now with the Soviet Union. | |
| Crazy. | ||
| This is the 20th anniversary of the Soviet Union disbanding in 2011. | ||
| And we're merging with the Soviet Union. | ||
| That has not existed in 20 years at that point. | ||
| So we're merging with the... | ||
| Secret Soviet Union. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Which we all know did not disband. | ||
| It's the UN. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| She's out there. | ||
| She's wild. | ||
| I swear. | ||
| Where's our girl Callahan for this one? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't have any evidence she's ever been on Infowars, but man, if she ever is, that's going to be a great episode. | ||
| I think Alex would prefer to pretend he doesn't know she exists. | ||
| That's my guess. | ||
| Because it exposes a lot of how stupid his ideas are. | ||
| But... | ||
| I think... | ||
| We need to make a rom-com. | ||
| Like, Nora Ephron should get those two together. | ||
| Like, what is it? | ||
| You've got hate. | ||
| Like, that'd be great. | ||
| That'd be great. | ||
| You've got hate mail. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There we go. | ||
| But sold it. | ||
| That's not fair, because I don't think... | ||
| I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of executives knocking on your door to give us money. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I don't think it's fair, though, because Carrie Cassidy, I don't think that she's a hateful person. | ||
| And maybe she is, I just don't have enough information. | ||
| No, but that's the plot of it, right? | ||
| Alex is so filled with hate, and Callahan? | ||
| Cassidy. | ||
| Do what? | ||
| Cassidy. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| I couldn't remember if it was Carrie Cassidy or Carrie Callahan. | ||
| Yeah, I fucked this whole thing up. | ||
| Yeah, I have no idea who she is anymore. | ||
| No. | ||
| So, at this point in 2011, Alex Jones is not afraid to... | ||
| Really make clear that he is a front for a gold operation. | ||
| He's just out and out being like... | ||
| Well, he doesn't talk about it ever now. | ||
| He doesn't talk about what GCN, the Genesis Communications Network, is. | ||
| He doesn't talk about Ted Anderson. | ||
| He doesn't talk about how Midas Resources is owned by the same company that syndicates his show, the GCN. | ||
| He never talks about it. | ||
| But back in 2011, he didn't feel like he needed to hide nearly as much. | ||
| And on this show, they have a straight up commercial for Midas Resources. | ||
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Okay. | |
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| That's why Midas Resources is willing to pay you to read the facts. | ||
| Midas Resources, a team of hand-picked financial specialists with decades of financial experience who are ready to provide you with state-of-the-art, up-to-date financial services. | ||
| Midas Resources offers a host of services and stands behind their products. | ||
| In fact, if you call and order their free Midas Report, Midas Resources will pay you. | ||
| This detailed report will provide you with financial history on the safest and most profitable areas to invest in. | ||
| And you can find a realtor. | ||
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Midas Resources will send you a free Walking Liberty silver half dollar. | |
| So what are you waiting for? | ||
| Get the facts and call Midas Resources toll-free at 888-292-2709. | ||
| No, that... | ||
| I mean, I think they have a new number. | ||
| You can Google it. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Let's call that number. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| 888? | ||
| Play that number again. | ||
|
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Free Walking Liberty silver half dollar. | |
| So what are you waiting for? | ||
| Get the facts and call Midas Resources toll free at 888-292-2709. | ||
| That's 888-292-2709. | ||
| And remember... | ||
| Let's see if this is still an operating phone number. | ||
|
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Be told while your call is being transferred to Midas Resource. | |
| You better remember to say you're on the air. | ||
|
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You better remember to say you're on the air. | |
| This is freaking me out. | ||
| Why is this still their phone? | ||
| I don't know! | ||
| Are you a business pickup? | ||
| It's Saturday. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| It is Saturday. | ||
| Hang up. | ||
| This is going nowhere. | ||
| This isn't going to be Larry Nichols. | ||
| And what are we going to do? | ||
| Say, we want silver? | ||
| What are we going to do? | ||
| There's no game here. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I just wanted to see if the number was still real. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| I also will say that I know his voice, and that Midas Resources that came in that automated answer, that's Ted Anderson. | ||
| So he recorded his own outgoing message. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| But anyway, I just like that... | ||
| That'd be great if we actually just got Ted. | ||
| Just like, hey, what's up? | ||
| You want some gold? | ||
| We need to talk about Alex. | ||
| So, one of the things that I find really fun about that commercial and what's illustrative there is they're scamming old people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Basically. | ||
| Because it's like, we'll pay you to read our shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| By giving you a half dollar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 50 cents. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That is kind of in the same vein as the 10 CDs for a penny kind of operations and stuff like that. | ||
| It seems good, but is a scam. | ||
| So, on this show, also, Alex tries to take a lot of calls. | ||
| I still owe those people, like, $7,000. | ||
| I probably do, too. | ||
| It's a good thing they went out of business. | ||
| The good news, too, is that we were doing it when we were, like, 12. Right. | ||
| They can't collect on 12-year-olds. | ||
| You can't sign a contract or anything like that. | ||
| So, haha. | ||
|
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But... | |
| You idiots. | ||
| Be that as it may. | ||
| Alex tries to take a lot of calls on this show. | ||
| He wants to fill up most of it with calls. | ||
| And he's much better at taking calls in 2011 than he is now. | ||
| He clearly has a little bit better attention span. | ||
| But he gets this call and it exposes him terribly. | ||
| And I don't think he realizes it. | ||
| In Texas, RJ, you're on the air. | ||
|
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Alex, what's up, buddy? | |
| Good. | ||
| Good to hear from you. | ||
|
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Good. | |
| How are you doing? | ||
| Real quick, anyway, I just moved here to Austin. | ||
| And I don't really want to put any more money in the banksters' hands. | ||
| I was wondering if you could recommend a good local bank. | ||
| Could I recommend what specifically? | ||
|
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A good local bank. | |
| Small bank, you know, not in control of the banksters. | ||
| Sorry, I was distracted. | ||
| They were fixing some equipment in here and had the door open and I couldn't hear you. | ||
| No, they weren't. | ||
| I'd have to research. | ||
| Local banks myself in your area, I don't really like to give people financial advice, because even if it looks like good advice today, the bank might go under tomorrow, even if it's got some great local rating. | ||
| But you can pull up, type in top Texas-rated banks, and you'll see which ones have the biggest reserves, which ones are rated having the best customer service, and I would look at a wide range. | ||
| I personally think, you know, old local credit unions are great. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Things like that. | ||
| But, I mean, I specifically, RJ, don't like to give people, you know, individual advice. | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
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His advice was Google it. | |
| Yeah, but that's such bullshit because this guy is calling saying he lives in Austin. | ||
| There's no way Alex Jones, if he believes the things that he professes to believe, wouldn't have a pretty good understanding. | ||
| Of what banks were globalist and which ones were cool. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| And... | ||
| Where does Alex bank? | ||
| I think that's... | ||
| Probably offshore somewhere. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have to assume he has some sort of a loophole scam going on for his money. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But be that as it may... | ||
| Well, it's actually all in gold underneath his bed. | ||
| Yeah, Ted Anderson got to him. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's the other thing. | ||
| Him saying that I don't like to give people financial advice is bullshit. | ||
| He plays commercials on his show for a gold and silver sale operation. | ||
| Buy gold is not financial advice, Dan. | ||
| It is life advice. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Live your life by this rule. | ||
| Buy gold. | ||
| Buy gold. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he constantly talks about financial collapse and the dollar is going to go away, which... | ||
| I believe could be interpreted as financial advice. | ||
| How could it not be interpreted as financial advice? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The financial advice is leave the financial system. | ||
| Yeah, basically. | ||
| That's his advice. | ||
| Get out! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey, Google whether or not the world is going to end in about two or three weeks at the end of the summer, as is always the case. | ||
| The summer of rage is coming up. | ||
| It's always coming. | ||
| It's my favorite season right before the fall of rage. | ||
| That's a good one. | ||
| It's because the leaves change. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| A lot of rage, but some beautiful colors. | ||
| Oh, they get pissed off. | ||
| Why do you think they turn red? | ||
| Just like Alex. | ||
| So, up to this point, we played some weird commercials, but not super weird. | ||
| This next commercial made me blurt laugh at the office. | ||
| I was sitting there listening to it, and everyone stared at me like, what are you doing? | ||
| Because I was blown away by... | ||
| I, first of all, can't imagine that this is a real thing. | ||
| Secondly, I can't believe that the problem it's purporting to solve is real. | ||
| It's just layers upon layers of, what are you doing? | ||
| So, mic down on this one, because it's that weird. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's too weird. | ||
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This is not a drill. | |
| Repeat, this is not a drill. | ||
| Gun sales are on a staggering pace. | ||
| Gun prices are going through the roof and that means desperate, vicious criminals now want your guns and will do anything to get them. | ||
| Now, a new book reveals powerful secrets for hiding your guns from thieves and looters. | ||
| You'll learn step-by-step battle-hardened techniques. | ||
| Where to hide your guns so criminals will never find them. | ||
| How to create the perfect hiding place as well as the places you should never hide your guns under any circumstance. | ||
| These and other closely guarded gun-cashing secrets are guaranteed to keep your weapons safe and out of sight when the going gets tough. | ||
| But listen up. | ||
| For security reasons, the Hide Your Guns book and even the website may disappear without warning at any time. | ||
| Go to HideYourGuns.com. | ||
| That's HideYourGuns.com. | ||
| Or call 877-327-0365. | ||
| Before they come for your guns. | ||
| HideYourGuns.com right now. | ||
| Uh, that's bizarre. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| It's a book. | ||
| There's a book. | ||
| It's a book. | ||
| About hiding your guns. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Where to hide them and where to not hide them. | |
| Under any circumstance. | ||
| Don't hide them. | ||
| Like, what circumstance could arise where you're like, well, maybe I should hide this gun in this place, and the book is like, no! | ||
| Don't do it! | ||
| Not under any circumstance! | ||
| Sure, it's raining outside, but don't hide it underneath the porch! | ||
| It seems like a good idea given the circumstances, but that's because you're a fool. | ||
| You don't understand where to hide guns. | ||
| And, hey, look, if you're that good at hiding guns, maybe you should write another book that says how to hide your book from people trying to shut it down. | ||
| Let's also be honest. | ||
| This is about making weapons caches. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| This is about, like, malicious survival shit. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's why it's like we might disappear at any point, because what we're doing is legally dicey. | ||
| We're not to hide your guns. | ||
| Dig a hole. | ||
| Don't hide them in your underwear. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| Nuh-uh. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| Don't hide it in your shoe. | ||
| No. | ||
| Don't hide it in the zoo. | ||
| So while we're actually on the topic... | ||
| It's just a Dr. Seuss book. | ||
| While we're on the topic of gun stuff, I wanted to bring this up. | ||
| I just saw an article that came out of Stanford. | ||
| They did a study. | ||
| Just came out in June, actually. | ||
| So it's a little bit old, but it had not come to my attention. | ||
| Alex always talks about how more guns makes people more safe. | ||
| And this is sort of... | ||
| It's a philosophy that people on the right really believe in. | ||
| It's that good guy with a gun sort of mentality. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I'll just read this off for you. | ||
| States with right-to-carry concealed handgun laws experience increases in violent crime, according to a Stanford scholar. | ||
| Stanford Law School professor John Donahue found that states that adopted right-to-carry laws have experienced a 13-15% increase in violent crime in the 10 years after enacting those laws. | ||
| And so this dude went over fucking data for a decade of information that could be found and compared them to states that don't have a right to carry laws, and he found that that thing is entirely a myth. | ||
| Well, countrywide, violent crime has been going down steadily since the 70s. | ||
| So if you see a decade-long increase in violent crime... | ||
| You're fucking up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because that's not just a 10% increase. | ||
| That's a 10% increase on top of the decrease that should have been seen, average-wise. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there's a swing of at least, like, what, 20%? | ||
| Something along those lines? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think I'm comfortable with the 13 to 15 that comes from this analysis. | ||
| We don't need to bump it up to 20. That's fine. | ||
| But that's just illustrative of the fact that that sort of mythology, that argument is kind of full of shit. | ||
| It's from Stanford. | ||
| Liberal bastions. | ||
| Liberal bastions, of course. | ||
| They're just a front for Obama trying to take your guns away, Dan. | ||
| At the same time, even though I acknowledge that that is entirely true, I still don't think that people should have their guns taken away. | ||
| I just want to be clear, in case there are any Alex Joneses listening. | ||
| How could we take their guns away? | ||
| They know how to hide them! | ||
| That's true. | ||
| They all bought the books! | ||
| I also like... | ||
| If violent criminals who are coming for your guns because gun prices are so high... | ||
| I like that that's the presentation of it. | ||
| It's not that, like, the government is coming. | ||
| It's not Obama. | ||
| It's violent criminals who are just like, Oh, I wish I could get a gun, but I can't afford one. | ||
| I'm 30 bucks off. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I just can't afford it. | ||
| I gotta go commit a D&E. | ||
| I gotta go steal a gun from somebody. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
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If you're a criminal looking for a gun, why would you go to somebody's house who has a lot of guns? | |
| That's just a bad idea. | ||
| Well, because generally you can assume that they haven't read this book. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Not every gun owner knows where to hide guns. | ||
|
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Uh-uh. | |
| So they're just going to have it in a safe. | ||
|
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Ugh. | |
| Ugh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very gauche. | ||
| So, as weird as that is, there's another commercial coming up that's even weirder. | ||
| That's saying a lot. | ||
| So, Alex, like I said, he's taking some calls, and here's a caller who wants to tell you about a superpower that we did not know the globalists have. | ||
| They've now had thousands of doves die with green dripping out of their beaks. | ||
| Alright, alright. | ||
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Yeah, I mean... | |
| And what kind of, you know, gets me thinking a little bit is, you know, you see how they can actually control, you know, volcanoes erupting and stuff like that. | ||
| You know, a lot of these things that happen, you know, with killing a lot of wildlife that I notice is around volcanoes when a lot of these, you know, poisonous gases and fumes fumigate from whatever these volcanoes and a lot of wildlife starts dying off. | ||
| Well, there is a big fault line where all these birds are dying over by Arkansas and that area where four states come together. | ||
| So, globalists can control volcanoes. | ||
| Great. | ||
| I don't understand what exactly the point was there. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I know a lot of wildlife die around volcanoes because of the poisonous gases that are released. | ||
| But the globalists are causing those gases to be released. | ||
| I don't understand what you don't understand. | ||
| I don't understand how they're... | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Using... | ||
| What? | ||
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Also... | |
| Seismic weapons? | ||
| Who's killing all the doves and making green shit pop out of their eyes? | ||
| It's the globalists, because the dove is a sign of peace, and they cannot handle that. | ||
| I'm just... | ||
| I'm editorializing... | ||
| You're just going with the symbolism inherent in the doves. | ||
| I'm spitballing. | ||
| But it seems like maybe that's what they're doing. | ||
| Okay, but... | ||
| Volcano? | ||
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Where does this guy even get any information about volcanoes, period? | |
| I don't know, probably. | ||
| He still thinks that volcanoes are made of papier-mâché, doesn't he? | ||
| And it's because the Earth is angry. | ||
| The globalists just taunt the Earth. | ||
| That's how they call volcanoes. | ||
| That's how they call volcanoes. | ||
| They just scream at it. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You're dumb! | ||
| Nobody's more of a snowflake than a volcano. | ||
| Everybody knows this. | ||
| Very sensitive. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Always offended by everything. | ||
| It's this PC culture that is killing all of our doves. | ||
| PC actually stands for pyroclastic. | ||
| PC Society? | ||
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Sure. | |
| Alright. | ||
| So, we've already illustrated a bit that these commercials are fucked up, but they're also, on some level, strategic. | ||
| Like, he talks about the economy falling apart and stuff like that, and then plays commercials for buying gold. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| On this episode, he talks a lot about how the government has finally admitted that fluoride is bad for you, because there was something that came out where people were trying to push for lowering the amount of fluoride that's in the public's drinking water. | ||
| And Alex takes this to be like, ha ha, we now know it's bad. | ||
| But the reality of that is a lot of anything is bad. | ||
| So a little bit of fluoride is not really all that bad from all the research I've done. | ||
| Not Brain Force. | ||
| Brain Force, doesn't matter how much you take, it's always good. | ||
| We know that's not true. | ||
| Always good for you. | ||
| We have documented audio evidence that that's not true. | ||
| DNA Force, good stuff. | ||
| Take it all. | ||
| Super Male Vitality, you should not eat on hamburgers. | ||
| We know this. | ||
| We have shown this. | ||
| Bone broth? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Like I said. | ||
| Tastes like chocolate, according to Millie Weaver. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| She loves it, because she loves chocolate. | ||
| Anyway, on this episode, he's talking tons about fluoride, and then he plays this commercial. | ||
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This message starts with a great offer from Big Berkey Water Filters, because we don't want you drinking dangerous water one minute longer. | |
| Right now, purchase any filter system from BigBerkeyWaterFilters.com to get your choice of two Berkey sport bottles, a KDF shower filter, a set of fluoride filters, or our new Cyclast Spigot absolutely free. | ||
| Why do this? | ||
| Because over 60% of municipal water is fluoridated, and at less than 2 cents per gallon, Berkey Water Filters purifies Ah, there it is. | ||
| Ah, there it is. | ||
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Big Berkey includes free shipping on every order over $50. | |
| And GCN listeners get... | ||
| Great. | ||
| So, I mean, there's the emergency aspect to it, like society is crumbling. | ||
| Yeah, that's there. | ||
| But then even on top of that, he mentions fluoride in that 40-second... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you could make... | ||
| The reason that there's a cowardliness on Alex's part is that there is a plausible deniability argument that you can make that like, yeah, of course I advertise for this because I believe all of this stuff and this is the solution to it. | ||
| Which is not true. | ||
| He wants to make the money and his narratives match what products give him money. | ||
| How do you filter fluoride? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Charcoal? | ||
| Out of the water? | ||
| Well, a lot of those filter systems are charcoal-based. | ||
| The water runs through charcoal beads or whatever, and heavy metals and stuff are absorbed by the charcoal. | ||
| I don't know it fully, and I don't know what Big Berkey is up to, but... | ||
| I will tell you, I know what Big Berkey's up to. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Selling cones. | ||
| Crushing small Berkey. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That they're up to. | ||
| I prefer my mom and pop local Berkey store, but Big Berkey's got a... | ||
| Big Berkey? | ||
| Well, here's the other... | ||
| They named it Big Berkey. | ||
| Here's the other really fun thing. | ||
| It's like, Alex still sells water filtration systems, but they're not Big Berkey. | ||
| Like, he has all of these products. | ||
| A lot of them are still things... | ||
| Now, vaping? | ||
| No. | ||
| That's not around anymore. | ||
| But he clearly... | ||
| Vape like Alex Jones. | ||
| With the yelling vape. | ||
| Ah! | ||
| I just want a cigarette! | ||
| Ah! | ||
| It's like a duck calling you... | ||
| Ah! | ||
| Let's make that. | ||
| How can we make vaping more annoying? | ||
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| The pen screams when you use it? | ||
| Great. | ||
| So, like, it's fascinating to me because I think... | ||
| You've got hate vape. | ||
| That's not going to set the world on fire. | ||
| So I think that what he does and has done since 2011 is he has these products, like the water filtration stuff. | ||
| And he's not making a good enough margin on it, so he finds another company that's a little bit easier to exploit, and he pushes harder and gets a better profit margin with whatever the line he sells now is. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| I think that that's probably... | ||
| Or, I guess, I haven't done enough research, it's possible that Big Berkey changed its name. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds more likely. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| Mainly because, of course they should change their name. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Their name is Big Berkey. | ||
| We're about to get into the interview that is... | ||
| Wild. | ||
| But, before we do, we got one more commercial. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And this is nuts. | ||
| This is so crazy. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| I like it, but it's... | ||
| This also made me blurt laugh. | ||
| Diamond Gusset is proud to announce the anthem of the Patriot movement. | ||
| They're offering a free CD, T-shirt, and bumper sticker with a qualifying purchase. | ||
| Diamond Gusset offers great products at great prices while keeping Americans working. | ||
|
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I'm looking for a factory where a man can feed his family. | |
| Not worried about them moving south, closing the doors and shutting down. | ||
| It's an anti-NAFTA song? | ||
|
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I'm looking for America We're American and be proud. | |
| Go to gusset.com forward slash America. | ||
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Again. | |
| Go to gusset.com forward slash America today. | ||
| So that song is awesome, but I should tell you that Diamond Gusset is a jean company. | ||
| They sell pants. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no. | ||
| I'm looking it up as we speak. | ||
| I actually have already done so. | ||
| Oh, of course you have. | ||
| And I have their Yelp page open. | ||
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Ooh! | |
| Some interesting reviews have come in about Diamond Gusset. | ||
| It didn't solve NAFTA? | ||
| No, it certainly didn't. | ||
| That fucking song is so great. | ||
| I'm looking for a factory that won't move south. | ||
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What are you doing? | |
| It's great. | ||
| I love love songs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So here's a review from SP. | ||
| That's like a Craigslist ad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm looking for a factory. | ||
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M for F. Not female. | |
| Factory. | ||
| Male for factory. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nice products. | ||
| I like the jeans and the canvas pants. | ||
| However, if you order online, be aware that this company has zero customer service. | ||
| They're incapable of providing the correct size. | ||
| They evidently manufacture and tag the pants without measuring the waist sizes. | ||
| All sizing is random. | ||
| I have ordered... | ||
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This is my favorite company now. | |
| I want random jeans just to show all sizing is random. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Their slogan is good luck. | ||
| Lose weight, asshole. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That it'll fit. | ||
| I've ordered... | ||
| Or gain weight. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's random. | ||
| I've ordered multiple pairs to attempt to get at least one pair of the correct size, which seems like a foolish way to do this. | ||
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Right? | |
| What are you doing, dude? | ||
| Jeans or pants marked 35 can in actuality be 36, 38, or 37. Seems to be random. | ||
| You will spend money sending them back due to their error. | ||
| They also refuse to hand-select pants to get you the correct size. | ||
| So basically, this company is incapable of providing the correct size pants to their customers. | ||
| How is it still in business? | ||
| I don't know, but I also think... | ||
| I love this place! | ||
| Here's another one from Eric B. What about Rakim? | ||
| Rakim does not have a... | ||
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I want to know how Rakim feels about Gusset now. | |
| Received the pants I ordered and they don't even come close to fitting. | ||
| I love this place! | ||
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I love this place so much! | |
| Are you telling me that I can just order random pants? | ||
| That's my favorite thing. | ||
| They don't even provide return shipping. | ||
| Now I get to pay $13 to return the pants they charge $13 to ship to me. | ||
| I will never waste my money here again. | ||
| You shouldn't either. | ||
| Car hurts and arbor wear fit true to size. | ||
| Why wouldn't you just give the pants to somebody else instead of waste $13? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| This is another one from Dan C. Very disappointed. | ||
| It's not Dan Cortez. | ||
| I didn't say anything. | ||
| Very disappointed in customer service! | ||
| Ordered three pairs of jeans, although really wanted a pair of their Defender jeans. | ||
| They did not have my size in Defender, so I ordered their Orange County jeans. | ||
| They might have your size in Defender! | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| But I made a request in the notes section that I really want the Defender, not the Orange County. | ||
| I asked if they could make an adjustment. | ||
| Received the jeans, but never heard from them regarding my request. | ||
| Then, within ten days, they advertised up to 30% discount on some of their jeans. | ||
| Well, it so happened that all three pairs that I ordered were now on sale. | ||
| I called them and asked if they would refund the difference between what I paid and the current price. | ||
| They said they cannot do that. | ||
| I will return the order and get my money refunded for the whole order. | ||
| It's their loss because of lousy customer service. | ||
| By the way, I work for Costco. | ||
| Yes, they are a big company, but one of their policies- Why are we getting into personal details of this guy? | ||
| Because one of their policies is if they have a lower price within 30 days, they refund the difference. | ||
| This is one of the reasons they have grown like they have. | ||
| Doesn't Costco sell jeans? | ||
| Yeah, he should have just bought jeans. | ||
| He should have just bought jeans from Costco. | ||
| God, I love Gusset.com. | ||
| Diamond Gusset. | ||
| Diamond Gusset. | ||
| I'm going to order everything from DiamondGusset.com from now on. | ||
| Paul M. has this to say. | ||
| Purchased online. | ||
| Worst experience ever. | ||
| I find that hard to believe. | ||
| Inform them that the jeans I purchased discolored after one wash. | ||
| Keep in mind, I have a jean cycle on my washing machine. | ||
| Were they the right size, though? | ||
| The customer service representative, who is barely discernible English, informed me that they have never... | ||
| That is never, meaning in the entire company history, including the time this person probably didn't work there, had an issue with jeans having a color issue after washing. | ||
| Amazing this is possible, and the person who's worked there is long to know this. | ||
| They're more amazed that you are actually wearing the jeans. | ||
| That's what they should be shocked by. | ||
| Of course they've never had an issue. | ||
| Nobody's ever washed them. | ||
| I was told I could mail them back and they would look at them. | ||
| This, of course, is at my expense. | ||
|
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30-day guarantee on the website is a complete lie! | |
| Take a look at him. | ||
| This is from Benjamin... | ||
| Oh yeah, that's definitely a color spot. | ||
| Send him back! | ||
| This is from Benjamin B., not Benjamin Button. | ||
| I wasn't gonna say anything! | ||
| I wouldn't recommend Diamond Gusset. | ||
| They lost my order. | ||
| Mad kept me on the phone for 20 minutes trying to figure out what happened. | ||
| I'm glad they're an American company, but man... | ||
| But man, do they need to get organized. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Where are these people? | ||
| God. | ||
| That's amazing stuff. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| So again, it's a terrible company. | ||
| How is this company still in business? | ||
| Well, I mean, here's the deal. | ||
| Let's be honest. | ||
| If they moved their factory down south, maybe they'd make a higher quality product. | ||
| Maybe they're suffering from shitty American manufacturing. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But that song is a banger. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| So here we go. | ||
| I do want a free CD and t-shirt from... | ||
| DiamondGusset.com slash America. | ||
| America! | ||
| So, here we go. | ||
| We're gonna get into it. | ||
| Now, everything is going to be insanity. | ||
| It's all up in the air now. | ||
| So, at this point in Alex Jones' history... | ||
| It's gonna be as random as those pants. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it's not random. | ||
| It's just bizarre. | ||
| So, Alex Jones, at this point, in 2011, apparently... | ||
| I haven't listened to a ton of episodes to know this is true, but he mentions it. | ||
| That every week on Friday, he has a guy named Bob Chapman come on the show. | ||
| All right, I'm liking Bob. | ||
| He's not around anymore. | ||
| I don't know if he's dead. | ||
| I can't find him through a Google search. | ||
| Tracy Chapman killed him. | ||
| Yeah, she's driving a fast car. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We figured it out. | ||
| That was quick. | ||
| That investigation? | ||
| Episode 0. So he's apparently on every week, and he is a Republican guy. | ||
| He was involved with Reagan's mayoral campaigns. | ||
| I'm sorry, gubernatorial campaigns. | ||
| Gubernatorial. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| So he was involved in that sort of world, and he has some insight and what have you. | ||
| We just had this interview with this Charlotte lady, and she's talking about how... | ||
| Reagan wanted to dumb down the schools, and he's probably a globalist, and the CNP is full of globalists, and she wants to get out of the UN, and no one's going along with it. | ||
| I think she said some bad things about Phyllis Schlafly, which Alex cannot stand for, because he's a big Schlafly flan. | ||
| Flan? | ||
| Schlafly flan? | ||
| Schlafly flan? | ||
| That's a good dessert. | ||
| Schafly fan. | ||
| Schafly fan. | ||
| So, that's where the first interview is. | ||
| Also, Phyllis Schaftley is the single worst person on the planet. | ||
| She's unbelievably terrible. | ||
| She's a monster. | ||
| Anyway, we don't have time. | ||
| I would buy her some of those gusset pants in a heartbeat. | ||
| Knowing her, they'd probably fit. | ||
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They'd probably fucking fit, wouldn't they? | |
| So, Alex is having this interview, and Bob is on the phone. | ||
| He's been on hold for like five minutes when they go to him because the interview with Charlotte ran long. | ||
| And so Alex wants to get Bob's take on the things that she's saying about Reagan to see if they match up with his first. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I was involved in the first good material race that Ronald Reagan was in, and I know a great deal about him for a lot of reasons. | ||
| And I know a lot of things that I'll never say on radio because they get me killed. | ||
| They'll start really looking for me. | ||
| And you haven't told me about this stuff, just like I told the DC madam off air. | ||
| I said, do not tell me anything that's not on air. | ||
| We're all being listened to right now. | ||
| If you're not going to put it out there, Bob, in fact, I wouldn't... | ||
| Well, now you've said it. | ||
| You've pretty much got to say it now. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| This is going to be shocking. | ||
| There's no way it's going to be shocking. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| Alex, vet your guests. | ||
| You know this is going to be a nightmare. | ||
| You think it's not going to be shocking? | ||
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Okay, it might be shocking, but I don't think it's going to get him killed. | |
| I would say... | ||
| No. | ||
| Do you have any conception of what is about to happen? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's got some dirt on Reagan. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Stuff that he'll never say on the radio. | ||
| Because it could get him killed. | ||
| But he's about to say it on the radio. | ||
|
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Because Alex has informed him that now that you've put it out there that you have this information, there will be kill squads coming unless you reveal it now. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Because Alex thinks he's about to get a huge scoop that he has bullied his weekly guest into divulging now. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Get ready for it, because... | ||
| It is going to shock you. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Mic down. | ||
| This is going to be shocking. | ||
| Ronald Reagan was a homosexual. | ||
|
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Besides the fact that during the late 1930s and early 40s, he was making what we would call today pro-communist speeches. | ||
| Well, that's on record. | ||
| I mean, they spun that that he was young and woke up later and became a conservative. | ||
| Well, it all goes. | ||
| It was part of the reason that he had as many roles as he had in the movies, because he really wasn't a very good actor. | ||
| He was doing sexual favors in Hollywood. | ||
| Well, what shocked me is that Reagan wasn't a good actor. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| He was great! | ||
| Have you seen his B-movies? | ||
| He was the Bruce Campbell of his time. | ||
| So, the reason I wanted you to put the mic down wasn't because I was afraid of that being mind-blowing or anything like that, but because I wanted it to sit there how long of a pause there was after he says that Reagan was gay. | ||
| Reagan was gay. | ||
| Alex legitimately... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex probably thought that he was going to say that Reagan was in bed with the communists. | ||
| Oh, he was. | ||
| Literally and figuratively. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So I think he thought that it was going to be something, like, really huge. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And when it came that his big piece of juicy goss was that Reagan is gay, he was like, what do I do? | ||
| How do I work with this? | ||
| And you can hear Charlotte on the other line, and her response is, mm-hmm. | ||
| Which is like, okay. | ||
| Wait, is her beat still there? | ||
| Yes, she's silently on the other line with a mm-hmm. | ||
| So you might be asking yourself at this point, how does Bob know this? | ||
| What information is he bringing to the table? | ||
| I mean, they kissed once at an office party. | ||
| That is not correct. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| No, I can't confirm or deny that, but that's not what he's bringing to the Alex Jones show. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Here is what Bob has to tell you. | ||
| Well, I mean, now that you've said this incredibly dangerous thing, and I don't doubt you, Bob, you're not somebody I've ever heard feed people lies or baloney, and I'm actually, few things actually kind of give me a pang of fear, like standing at the edge of a cliff. | ||
| I'm pretty freaked out right now. | ||
| And not even judging Reagan if he was like that, it just freaks me out the power of that knowledge. | ||
| I mean, I do know that you are a conservative icon and did run with a lot of the big guys because you were wealthy and lived in California and were politically involved. | ||
| Maybe that's why they've always been after you since. | ||
| But, I mean, what did you witness with Reagan? | ||
| I mean, this is dangerous stuff. | ||
| We might as well just get this out now. | ||
| I saw a film, and I was also told by his girlfriend before he married Nancy. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Man, this is making me sick right now. | ||
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Wait, wait, wait. | |
| And by sick, it's just making me sick. | ||
| He didn't see a movie. | ||
| He saw a film. | ||
| He saw a film of Reagan banging a dude. | ||
| We're going to get to more specifics on that here in a second. | ||
| He saw a film of Reagan banging a dude, right? | ||
| Pitching and catching. | ||
| Not quite. | ||
| I'm fine with both or either. | ||
| I think that you're getting ahead of the game here a little bit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We're going to get to all those details. | ||
| Because Alex... | ||
| And Reagan's ex-girlfriend told him he was gay. | ||
| But like I said, Alex does not know how to deal with this. | ||
| He's standing on the edge of a cliff, Dan. | ||
| He knows how to deal with it. | ||
| Fear. | ||
| This could get all of us killed. | ||
| Even you and me right now listening to this, they're trying to suppress this information. | ||
| But here's the deal. | ||
| At this point in 2011, Alex Jones is not a fully committed, devout bigot. | ||
| His show is not, at this point... | ||
| The beyond the dog whistle hate speech thing. | ||
| I think. | ||
| Now, I haven't listened to a ton of episodes from back then, but how he responds to this is very different than he would now. | ||
| He would scream about all kinds of shit and how it proves... | ||
| Pedophile, etc. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| But the fact that he's like, well, I mean, it's rough language that I don't like in terms of like, if he was that way, that sort of thing. | ||
| That's sort of... | ||
| That's ignorant. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Not necessarily horribly big enough. | ||
| It's not current Alex Jones. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| This is a restrained, kind of more reasonable man we're seeing. | ||
| Now, at the same time, because he's not that outright screaming about different people who aren't straight, white Christians who are under attack, he doesn't really know how to deal with this. | ||
| He doesn't know where he should go with it. | ||
| And so he keeps asking Bob questions to try and illuminate things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so we'll get to all... | ||
| To see if he can find a path outward. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| And he's unsuccessful. | ||
| But we'll get to all the details that you might be curious about as this goes on. | ||
| I think we should leave a review on Alex Jones' website about how if you take all of his pills... | ||
| For a few years, you become a bigot. | ||
| I don't think that you're a smart person because you think that there's a review section on Alex Jones' website. | ||
| Fair, fair. | ||
| Let's go to Amazon then. | ||
| All right. | ||
| ...who know this. | ||
| Most of them are now deceased. | ||
| There's one that is alive that I know of that knew this. | ||
| But I also got it from another source. | ||
| Earlier on. | ||
| You were with Defense Intelligence, correct? | ||
| But previously in Berlin? | ||
| No. | ||
| I was in Germany. | ||
| But quite frankly, I was never in Berlin. | ||
| And they wouldn't let me go to Berlin. | ||
| Unless they flew me in, and there was no reason to do that. | ||
| In what context did you see this film? | ||
| The film I saw at a private showing. | ||
| And most of the people who are there, I didn't even know. | ||
| And it was by an invitation only. | ||
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What? | |
| Was this a group of conservatives freaked out by it, or was this people wanting to blackmail him? | ||
| No, I think it was quite a cross-section of people. | ||
| Well, that solves that. | ||
| And that's where I started. | ||
| But I learned before that that that was the case. | ||
| From the girlfriend. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And I don't know whether she's still alive or not. | ||
| She would probably be in her late 80s or 90s now. | ||
| Alex is so confused. | ||
| That is my favorite thing. | ||
| Also... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, if I understand this correctly, Bob Chapman... | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Goes to his mailbox one day, gets an RSVP. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Just save the date. | ||
| This is pre-email, so yes, absolutely. | ||
| It's snail mail. | ||
| And then he goes to this party where the main party of the party is we're going to watch Ronald Reagan have sex with another man. | ||
| Well, let's not be too specific about what the film is, because at this point all we know is it's a film. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That somehow confirms... | ||
| That Reagan is gay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So that's all you know. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So yes. | ||
| And at the party is a cross-section of people. | ||
| These are the things that we know. | ||
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We know. | |
| That confirm how gay Reagan was. | ||
| We know that Bob doesn't know most of them. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| He does know some. | ||
| Who is inviting him to this party then? | ||
| That's unclear. | ||
| Why would anybody invite Bob to a party? | ||
| Why would this be a party? | ||
| So then, beyond that. | ||
| Who's got a big enough theater? | ||
| In their home to properly watch... | ||
| Really rich people. | ||
| ...Reagan bang a dude. | ||
| Really rich, man. | ||
| That's no big deal. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| The other thing is that he refuses to say unequivocally that this was an attempt to blackmail him, and he says that it's not accurate to say that it's conservatives who are just disgusted. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think people just wanted to watch Reagan bang. | ||
| The agenda of what this meeting is is bizarre. | ||
| I think people just wanted to watch Reagan bang. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| I'd watch that. | ||
| Yeah, so Alex... | ||
| I would watch any President Bang. | ||
| At this point, Alex realizes that he's coming into some of the same issues that you are, in terms of, like, he's talking to this dude, he's hearing this story be told, but he doesn't really know the specifics. | ||
| Like, what was the tape? | ||
| Because all we know is there's a film. | ||
| I would not watch Willard Fillmore Bang. | ||
| Wilford Brimley? | ||
| That dude is gross. | ||
| What about the two of them? | ||
| Wilford Brimley and... | ||
| I mean, I want to see a mustache ride on a Wilford Brimley. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| He gets into it. | ||
| Alex asks for more specifics. | ||
| Okay, well, this is obviously very dangerous right now, Bob. | ||
| So was this a porno tape or just him holding hands with a guy? | ||
| What was this? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I don't know whether I should talk about the way it happened on air. | ||
| Well, they're going to probably come kill you and maybe me if you don't, so just get it all out right now. | ||
| The film was a woman with him who used an artificial device to do what they did. | ||
| That's not gay! | ||
| Had this been taped covertly by an intelligence agency? | ||
| It was taped covertly, but not by an intelligence agency. | ||
| Reagan made his own tape. | ||
| That doesn't necessarily mean he's homosexual then. | ||
| But it does. | ||
| That's par for the course for these politicians. | ||
| That is just unbelievable news. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| I actually wish I wouldn't have asked. | ||
| I thought it was going to be something like drugs or something. | ||
| Okay, this show's really taking a crazy turn. | ||
| Reagan likes ass play. | ||
| I'm pretty freaked out right now. | ||
| I love this Alex Jones. | ||
| Because he has a guy... | ||
| It's not even like... | ||
| Well, it doesn't even sound like he's gay, so we'll move on. | ||
| Well, but he's like, I thought you were going to say something about drugs. | ||
| This is weird. | ||
| The show is taking an unexpected turn. | ||
| I'm freaked out. | ||
| That's great! | ||
| That's awesome! | ||
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That's the kind of Alex Jones I love. | |
| Remember, like, episodes back, I was talking about how... | ||
| One of the reasons that I feel so passionately about how much I hate the current Alex Jones is because there is a place for this sort of thing. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And granted, he's still full of shit. | ||
| He's still pushing narratives that are based on lies. | ||
| And it is into homophobic territory a little bit in many ways. | ||
| But not on Alex's front. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| That's the weirdest thing I heard there was Alex, given the very reasonable position of, ah, it doesn't sound like he's gay. | ||
| It's downright... | ||
| Bordering on sex positive. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| He's like, eh, he just likes a strap on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex very easily could have been like, eh, I've done that shit too. | ||
| Moving on. | ||
| He tosses it away kind of like, eh, that's not proof that he's gay. | ||
| That's common in West Coast circles and stuff like that. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| The idea of thinking of him saying that nowadays is impossible to imagine. | ||
| Of course. | ||
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And it's funny and it's great. | |
| I just, this bums me out. | ||
| Just based on... | ||
| I just want to know who is at this party... | ||
| We're going to get to that. | ||
| ...watching Reagan get his ass play going. | ||
| We're not even close to done with Bob's... | ||
| Pagging does not make you gay. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| By no means. | ||
| But... | ||
| Everybody likes a little ass play. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Compare this to coffee-throwing Alex. | ||
| You know, getting coffee thrown on him, Alex. | ||
| Picking fights with strangers on the street because they don't realize globalist stuff. | ||
| Like, that... | ||
| It's so depressing to see that in six years that huge of a transformation happened. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And it's a bummer. | ||
| It really is kind of the same course that the radicalization of right-wing media took for everybody. | ||
| At a certain point, how many of us can actually talk to our parents anymore? | ||
| I can't. | ||
| My parents are liberals. | ||
| Yeah, I can't. | ||
| My parents are strong liberals out there in Austin, Teha. | ||
| Done. | ||
| Done. | ||
| My whole family has been conservative. | ||
| They've always been Republican. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because they think that Christianity means that's what you do. | ||
| But... | ||
| This level of insanity from them is just, like, where do you guys get this shit? | ||
| Well, one of the problems is it came on in degrees. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And especially with the youth, I believe. | ||
| You know, youth including up to, like, 30-year-old types. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is strange for me to say, but I think I'm protecting my own age. | ||
| Like, I'm not old! | ||
| But... | ||
| I think that a lot of it crept up on people through differing... | ||
| There was a lot of subterfuge with Gamergate stuff and men's rights activists. | ||
| Those communities became portholes to radicalization through real rampant distrust of any liberal movement, any liberal ideas. | ||
| The idea that George Soros is trying to trick everyone into cultural Marxism. | ||
| Like those sorts of things are implicitly a part of Gamergate and men's rights activism in as much as they are so based on being angry. | ||
| Oh, of course not. | ||
| They thought, hey, maybe feminism is a little bit out of line. | ||
| Maybe they are asking for too much, and they do actually not want equality. | ||
| They want to be over men and fragile male egos. | ||
| It kind of makes sense why someone would get seduced into that viewpoint, not realizing that it does not stop there. | ||
| You're going to end up being an anti-Semite. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| It's a clear path. | ||
| That gives a lot of credence to the idea that maybe Hitler was just a failed artist. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| If all it took was gamers to be like, I don't like fairness and journalism ethics to get to Nazis, maybe Hitler should have gotten a gold star for one of his patents and then we would be fine. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| But I think the bigger issue is it will be a huge Pox, looking back at this period of history, it will be a big black mark on our history that people, especially men, did not listen to women. | ||
| In terms of Gamergate stuff. | ||
| In terms of everything. | ||
| Especially the Gamergate and Men's Rights stuff. | ||
| The fact that people turn such a blind eye, and I mean, I was kind of hip to what was going on, but I certainly didn't act out enough. | ||
| I didn't speak out enough. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| And I regret that deeply, but history will show when they write books about it, and some people probably already have. | ||
| I think the Fish people will write amazing books. | ||
| You mean the guys who follow Trey Anastasio on tour? | ||
| So, anyway. | ||
| It's going to be so much like, I remember reading, I can't remember what the name of the book was, but the basic gist of it was interviewing people after World War II in Germany who were always just like, no, no, no, I wasn't a Nazi. | ||
| It was those guys over there. | ||
| I heard about those Nazis. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not me, not my family. | ||
| We were always, like, that's going to be what it is. | ||
| Everyone are the good people. | ||
| Everyone else is terrible. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You go to one of those places and you will see so many... | ||
| Well, like the Nazis now who are losing their jobs and all that shit. | ||
| I can't flip hot dogs anymore. | ||
| In a year, they're going to be like, oh, I was never like that. | ||
| I know that they were just portraying me wrongly. | ||
| I was a misguided kid. | ||
| Like that whole thing. | ||
| Baked Alaska is even already playing that game. | ||
| And what's that? | ||
| Matt the Millennial or whatever? | ||
| The guys who are like, look. | ||
| We were fucking around. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, it was a joke! | ||
| We were doing it for the lulls! | ||
| Right, that sort of narrative is already taking shape, even though the complete disaster has not yet occurred. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But be that as it may, we'll see. | ||
| The organization in the rally in Boston is going on as we record this, or did today, and that gives me some optimism. | ||
| Massive hope. | ||
| Really, truly a beautiful thing. | ||
| Hopefully something doesn't terribly go wrong later tonight, and then this sounds like... | ||
| They still haven't released the guys who beat the... | ||
| They still haven't arrested and arraigned the guys who beat the shit out of DeAndre Harris. | ||
| Yeah, that's bad. | ||
| And they know who they are. | ||
| And they have addresses. | ||
| Yeah, that's bad. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| There's a lot to deal with in terms of fixing stuff. | ||
| Who's the snowflake? | ||
| Who's the snowflake? | ||
| The hundreds of people who went to the police station to say, hey, we took down that fucking bullshit Confederate statue. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or the guy who beat the fuck out of somebody and is, no, no, no, I never did it. | ||
| Or the fucking cops who refused to do anything. | ||
| Fuck the whole narrative that the liberal snowflakes are all that shit. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| We're not offended by bullshit. | ||
| We're pissed off at you idiots. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's not hypersensitivity. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It's something that's morally repugnant. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It has no place in... | ||
| It's called being a good person. | ||
| And, you know, there's a lot of stuff that we should unpack in terms of... | ||
| There's a lot of foreign issues that are also equally repulsive. | ||
| And I think it's something that we should maybe take a look at. | ||
| We don't do a good enough job necessarily on this show of, you know, other atrocities that happen around the world. | ||
| The number of things we don't do a good enough job doing on this show is... | ||
| I mean, you know, we're pretty good at doing the main thing that we do, I feel like. | ||
| We focus on Alex, and unfortunately that means we can't talk about how terrible other governments are outside of, let's say, ours and Russia. | ||
| Turkey. | ||
| Fucking Turkey, man. | ||
| Alex doesn't talk about them too much. | ||
| Yeah, I imagine not. | ||
| Isn't... | ||
| Which one was... | ||
| Was it Manafort? | ||
| Who was it that was... | ||
| Flynn was working for Turkey. | ||
| Flynn was the one who was working for Turkey. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Yeah, because Manafort was more based out of Ukraine and Yanukovych. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But be that as it may, we've got to get back to Reagan being gay. | ||
| Can you say that sentence one more time? | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, we've got to get back to Reagan being gay. | ||
| So this next clip, Alex wants to know when Bob saw the film. | ||
| Bob Shetman, I guess a Hollywood actor, Bohemian Grove, I mean, I guess it's really par for the course, but what year was this whenever you were shown this film? | ||
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Hey. | |
| Late 1970s. | ||
| Early 1980s. | ||
| That doesn't inspire confidence. | ||
| Wait, if it was the late 1970s and early 1980s, Reagan was either president or just about to be president. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So, there was a party. | ||
| I can't get around this. | ||
| I can't get around this story. | ||
| Somebody invited Bob Chapman to a place to watch a film of the president getting pegged. | ||
| Now, that is a great day. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I would think. | ||
| Think of all the positive feelings you would have. | ||
| You would be like... | ||
| Oh, I was invited to this. | ||
| They think I'm so cool that I would be happy to watch the president getting pegged. | ||
| And then you see the president getting pegged and you're like, well, that was alright. | ||
| Wasn't as good as I had hoped. | ||
| I don't even think they gave him a reach around, which is like, what's the fucking point? | ||
| You know what I'm saying right there? | ||
| It's probably from a bad angle. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I can't jack to this. | ||
| But, like, you hit the nail kind of on the head, I think, with your first piece there that is... | ||
| Given the time frame, Reagan was a massively important figure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the idea that he gets involved, he gets invited to this screening where they watch him getting buttfucked, is like, why do you... | ||
| Only have a decade. | ||
| Late 70s, early 80s could be a swath of 10 years that we're talking about. | ||
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You would remember very clearly the day you saw the president get pegged. | |
| That would be my 9-11, that's for sure. | ||
| That calls into question the entire credibility of this story. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| If it was me, and let's say I get invited to a party and I see Trump getting pegged. | ||
| I'd be like, that happened in 2017. | ||
| I remember it very early. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| The sky was blue. | ||
| I remember there was two clouds in the sky. | ||
| One bird flew by. | ||
| You would have total recall of that entire day. | ||
| 30 years passed. | ||
| I would still remember exactly. | ||
| I would not stop telling that story. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Well, I guess he hasn't because he's afraid he'd get killed. | ||
| Yeah, that's possible. | ||
| He's tried to forget it. | ||
| Or it's all made up. | ||
| It could all be made up. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I bet Trump has been pegged. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| So anyway, I mean, and if he has, God bless him. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| This next clip, we get into more about the nature of this screening. | ||
| And Alex, again, is really trying to find a foothold. | ||
| So, I mean, obviously then he's been blackmailed all along. | ||
| If you were taken to some elite screening, I mean, was this an elite screening? | ||
| Yeah, it was elite. | ||
| But I knew already. | ||
| Well, I mean, let me tell you something. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| If somebody said, come to a screen... | ||
| Did they tell you what was going to be at it? | ||
| Because if somebody told me, hypothetically, come to a screening of Bill Clinton... | ||
| You know, getting rough with a woman or something, you know, which we know he likes to do. | ||
| He knocks their teeth out. | ||
| I would say, no way! | ||
| No way! | ||
| No way! | ||
| I mean, I'm all about exposing stuff right out in the open. | ||
| And it's not that I'm a coward. | ||
| I don't have a death wish. | ||
| I want to keep operating and fighting them out in the open. | ||
| This is the kind of stuff that is super dangerous. | ||
| It's like I told the DC madam. | ||
| And, I mean, why would the... | ||
| I mean, were you told it was a screening of Ronald Reagan? | ||
| Or did they just get you there and show it to you? | ||
| They said it was important. | ||
| They got me there, and I was shown it. | ||
| Could it have been a fake? | ||
| I really didn't know what the content was going to be. | ||
| Could it have been a fake? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Was it black and white? | ||
| I don't know about faking movies, but it did look fake to me. | ||
| Was it black and white? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| How old did he look? | ||
| I quite frankly can't remember. | ||
| Was it the older Reagan at the time, or was it a younger Reagan? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| How do you not know? | ||
| I would say older. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Anything else, Bob, that you need to get out now so they don't set a hit team down there? | ||
| Well, quite frankly, he was a nice person to be around. | ||
| Is there anything else, Bob? | ||
| Yeah, you can hear the frustration in Alex's voice because he thought... | ||
| We're standing on the precipice of danger. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| We got a real thing going on. | ||
| He thought, like, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what it would be. | ||
| Some sort of drug-running operation inside information. | ||
| I mean, we already had Iran-Contra. | ||
| Yeah, he thought maybe... | ||
| This is a bigger scandal than that? | ||
| Well, I mean, he has Larry Nichols on all the time who was involved in that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Dealing with Nicaragua. | ||
| Yeah, but that's fine. | ||
| Yeah, who cares? | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex is really... | ||
| Like I said, this whole time, he just does not know what to do. | ||
| And in this clip, he's really struggling to figure out what to judge. | ||
| He doesn't know where to put his disgust, really, because he's not a super angry public bigot. | ||
| So he can't just be like, queer, this guy's a queer, or anything like that. | ||
| So he has to figure out, like, what is it about this story that I'm mad about? | ||
| And he has a lot of... | ||
| Oh, it's Bob. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| It's about Bob. | ||
| It seems like this might be the end of Bob's tenure as a weekly guest. | ||
| But here we go. | ||
| It's hard to shake me up. | ||
| And Bob, what shook me up is not that there's wild stuff going on in Hollywood. | ||
| It's that Ronald Reagan is such an icon for so many conservatives. | ||
| It's like this image of conservatism. | ||
| And what he said, the things he was for on paper sounded really great. | ||
| And I remember watching politics during the Republican and Democratic conventions in 79, 80, and my parents not telling me what political views to have. | ||
| Who do you like? | ||
| So I watched the Democrat, Republican, and I said, I like the Republicans. | ||
| I like Ronald Reagan. | ||
| When I was six years old or whatever, I'm only 36, folks. | ||
| And it's just that icon image. | ||
| But it's not even that he was some woman doing something freaky. | ||
| I mean, that's still disconcerting, but I'm not here judging people. | ||
| It's Bob Chapman, who I know is an icon, conservative. | ||
| True conservative pedigree going back 50 years. | ||
| I know you know all these people. | ||
| I know you've been instrumental in all this stuff. | ||
| I know you were friends with Reagan. | ||
| That's on record. | ||
| And then you come on air and say that, and so I have to take it as the truth. | ||
| I wish it wasn't the truth. | ||
| It's like I don't know how to compute that. | ||
| I mean, that sounds so Hollywood-esque, you know, dark film right there, just black and white footage of Ronald Reagan. | ||
| You know, it was some... | ||
| I mean, why were you invited to this meeting, Bob Shatley? | ||
| Because I was connected to a couple of other people who were invited. | ||
| And what did they say? | ||
| I mean, they said, this is why we're showing this? | ||
| No, they just said it's a very interesting film, and you should come and watch it. | ||
| And I know these people quite well. | ||
| The character work was amazing. | ||
| I said, okay, I'll go. | ||
| And that's what I found out. | ||
| And they said to me afterwards, well, what do you think? | ||
| I said, well, I'm surprised that I'm not. | ||
| And then I told them what I had learned from somebody else years before. | ||
| Do you think this was an intelligence-gathering operation with people they know, knew, and were friends with Ronald Reagan to see if they could get more intel? | ||
| No, these are people, the ones who I knew who were there, who I knew who they were, they were all very conservative people. | ||
| But there were other people there I didn't know. | ||
| How many people were there, roughly? | ||
| About 15, 18. I know as soon as this show's over, I'm going to think of a hundred things I wanted to ask you about this. | ||
| Well, I'm going to be around for a long time. | ||
| How big was the strap-on? | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| But, you know, I was shocked, too. | ||
| And I liked him. | ||
| He was a very nice person, you know, at least to meet socially. | ||
| That's just the way it turned out. | ||
| I lived in Southern California for 36 years. | ||
| Turns out he likes getting pegged. | ||
| You came to expect that you would find out things like that about people that you wouldn't normally find out in Indianapolis, Indiana. | ||
| It was a pretty wild lifestyle in California, just like there is in New York City. | ||
| A lot of pegging out there. | ||
| And especially Southern California. | ||
| Well, I guess San Francisco has been. | ||
| No, I've brushed up against it. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| And we've got a lot of affiliates out in California, beautiful coast, nice people. | ||
| I just don't like Los Angeles and the overall. | ||
| And, of course, that's an oversimplification. | ||
| I just kind of get the willies. | ||
| And it's not that I get the willies. | ||
| I mean, I'm not judging somebody, and I'm not certainly endorsing it, but, I mean, you know, what some guy and a woman are doing, whatever, it's just the films of it and stuff. | ||
| That seems to be where he's landing. | ||
| It's bad to film sex, I guess. | ||
| I suppose. | ||
| You can see it, though. | ||
| He doesn't know what to do here. | ||
| He's like, you know, that weird Hollywood lifestyle. | ||
| I don't approve of it. | ||
| I'm not condemning it. | ||
| I don't know what a guy and a girl do. | ||
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It's fine. | |
| Don't tape it. | ||
| I love Bob Chapman's summary of, like, I didn't know what it was going to be. | ||
| My friend said it was a very interesting film. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| So we saw it. | ||
| And afterwards they asked me, what did I think? | ||
| I thought there were some third act issues. | ||
| Like, what are you talking about? | ||
| He just saw the president get pegged. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| You know, I don't think it changes my opinion of his ability to govern, but I did not know that he could fit a dildo that big in there. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What are you supposed to say? | ||
| And he already knows. | ||
| He already has the girlfriend from the past who's told him this already. | ||
| And what did she tell him? | ||
| He never says. | ||
| I imagine the girlfriend didn't tell him. | ||
| That he was gay. | ||
| The girlfriend said he liked getting pegged. | ||
| He likes ass play. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And because it was such an unevolved time, there was no differentiation. | ||
|
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That's true. | |
| There was just, like, he probably heard from the girlfriend that he likes maybe a finger in the ass. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And then his response was, oh, I know he's gay. | ||
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Right. | |
| As opposed to, he just likes a little fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or maybe... | ||
| Likes to get weird. | ||
| I mean, Bob, it seems like Bob should have tried it immediately after that, right? | ||
| If it's good enough for the president... | ||
| If some ass play is good enough for the president, Bob, you gotta give it a go! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, come on, man. | ||
| Grow up, Bob. | ||
| There isn't a... | ||
| Which comic said it? | ||
| There isn't, like, a button inside your asshole that turns you gay. | ||
| I don't know, but fine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, like we're experiencing, Alex is not sure what to do. | ||
| He's judging California, but then being like, I don't know, gives me the willies. | ||
| Not the willies, like, I don't like gays, but like, ah, it's just, yeah! | ||
| Let he who has not been pegged cast the first deal. | ||
| He is amateurish at this point. | ||
| He does not know what he's doing. | ||
| And in this next clip, he sort of makes clear that... | ||
| Now, in his defense, though, that's a weird-ass thing to be told when... | ||
| It's a weird-ass thing to be told. | ||
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Boo. | |
| No, that's a weird thing. | ||
| So he thinks he's about to get a huge scoop on the secret Reagan... | ||
| Communist. | ||
| This could be his next Bohemian Grove. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And instead, a guy that he has regularly had on the show just drops in with like, oh, Reagan's gay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What are you... | ||
| There's no way to... | ||
| He doesn't just drop that in. | ||
| He does say, I shouldn't be talking about this. | ||
| It'll get us killed. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Or whatever. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| But even if you're, you know, even if you're Walter Cronkite, you're not going to be like, well, I've got a plan for this one. | ||
| I think you could. | ||
| I think if I were in Alex's shoes, I could kind of roll with it. | ||
| Well, yeah, but you wouldn't have to take it seriously. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And Alex is doing the best he can to ask questions. | ||
| And I think through the questions, he's revealing that Bob does not have a good grasp on details. | ||
| And that leads me to believe... | ||
| Barring any other evidence, any invitations to a weird party that I might get in the future. | ||
| Oh, man! | ||
| But, like, without that in place, I don't believe him. | ||
| These details don't make sense. | ||
| The vagueness of his inability to answer questions that are very simple, like, was it old or young Reagan? | ||
| When did you see this? | ||
| Why were you there? | ||
| It's all just so vague. | ||
| See, now I imagine this tape as being, like, the room. | ||
| Where people get together and they shout the same thing. | ||
| Hey, yeah, look! | ||
| It's like Rocky Horror. | ||
| Yeah, it's like Rocky Horror Picture Show. | ||
| Now I want to see this. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex, he kind of shows a little bit of his cards. | ||
| And there's a real sense that he is pretty bummed out about the way the show has gone. | ||
| The way in which he said Bob that one time, that's more than... | ||
| Way to go, Bob! | ||
| Well, I mean, did they tell you why it had been taped? | ||
| I mean, you said covertly. | ||
| I mean, this is horrible. | ||
| Oh, Reagan had taped it himself. | ||
| I don't know why it was taped, but I think it was for blackmail. | ||
| And then it was, I think, used politically later. | ||
| Well, no kidding. | ||
| When I saw it. | ||
| Well, then why would they leak it out to these people so the message would get back to Rainbow Ronnie that everybody knew? | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| I just think that... | ||
| They felt it was time to show it, I guess. | ||
| I really don't know there. | ||
| Well, I can't play it on air because there's so much profanity. | ||
| But Harper's Magazine, six years ago, published another report about Nixon interviews they'd done and stuff they didn't publish in the 70s. | ||
| And when people thought, said, oh, that can't be true, they released the tape. | ||
| And it's, you know, Bohemian Grove, San Francisco and Northern California. | ||
| Yeah, they all go up there with Reagan and everybody else. | ||
| Let me tell you something, it's the most, you know, they started using profanity but talking about all the homosexual activity. | ||
| Bohemian Grove, man. | ||
| It just seems to always pop up with Republicans and then with Democrats. | ||
| It's like beating women and stuff. | ||
| It's like Democrats, it's always breaking women's noses. | ||
| And then Republicans, unless it's Dick Cheney, he likes what the Democrats like. | ||
| It's the walking dead with his bionic heart with no pulse, Dick Cheney. | ||
| And with Republicans, how many of them get caught in restrooms and stuff? | ||
| I mean, what's going on? | ||
| I mean, do you have to be like that to be a super high-level Republican? | ||
| No, I don't think so, but I do believe... | ||
| That's the beginning of our pedophile network right there. | ||
| Yeah, at this point, Alex has not developed the narrative. | ||
| Yeah, he doesn't have the pedophile network yet. | ||
| Yep, so we know at least in 2011 that was not a piece of his go-to worldview. | ||
| And it's possible that he just doesn't think of it. | ||
| He's not as frenetic of a broadcaster at this point. | ||
| He's just a little bit thrown off by the new... | ||
| By the new information that he has about Reagan. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| I think it's changed the way we all feel about Reagan. | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| I think I like him a little bit more. | ||
| I don't have... | ||
| I'm not a big fan of the way he released crack into the black community, but... | ||
| Hey! | ||
| I will say that my opinion has not changed at all. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| This is a zero to me. | ||
| The idea of these... | ||
| Come on, Nancy pegging Reagan in the White House. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| I'm more interested in the idea that... | ||
| There were these parties of people watching it. | ||
| I know! | ||
| That, to me, is much more fascinating than the tape itself. | ||
| Where do you get an invitation to this shit? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think the time has come and gone. | ||
| I don't think these parties are being held anymore. | ||
| We've got to find out. | ||
| I think we're screwed. | ||
| Let's get back on the phone with GCN. | ||
| Hey, Ted. | ||
| Ted, baby. | ||
| Hey, Ted! | ||
| You ever see Reagan get pegged? | ||
| It certainly helps one's career if they engage in those kind of things. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
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Well, it was very, very prevalent. | |
| You know, I lived there in the 60s, 70s, 80s, a long, long time, into the 90s. | ||
| And so I saw lots. | ||
| I lived in Malibu for years. | ||
| I spent a lot of time in Beverly Hills and, you know, all over Los Angeles. | ||
| But I saw lots, met lots of people. | ||
| Nothing surprises me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So you think Nancy knows about this reported stuff you're talking about? | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Nancy's not dead yet. | ||
| I don't see how she could not have known. | ||
| The reason I ask what color the film footage is, it's much easier. | ||
| Back in the 70s, they'd still be using animation. | ||
| It's much easier to fake a black and white. | ||
| But it goes beyond the film. | ||
| You know, there was other evidence I had. | ||
| But, you know, it's not something I've talked about in all the years. | ||
| Well, let's get it. | ||
| Bob, you're a smart cookie. | ||
| You know, once you talked about this, you've got to tell it all. | ||
| So, I wish I never would have asked the question. | ||
| Now we have to get all the pus out of the wound here. | ||
| What else? | ||
| What's the other evidence? | ||
| Let's get it all out. | ||
| No, I don't have any other evidence. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| Make sure every head is squeezed out. | ||
| You know why. | ||
| You know, that's it. | ||
| And it was my personal experience. | ||
| And it happened, and that's the end of it. | ||
| Alex hates Bob so much right now. | ||
| And that's where we all go. | ||
| I thought you were going to say he was a communist or something. | ||
| I didn't know. | ||
| No, but he was on the edge there. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That is insane disappointment. | ||
| That's so great. | ||
| Also, I love the... | ||
| Make sure you get all the evidence out here. | ||
| Go for it. | ||
| I don't have any more. | ||
| Good! | ||
| I love the turn of that clip in the sense that Alex suggests they can use animation with black and white clips. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that maybe it's fake. | ||
| It's a rotoscope. | ||
| And so Bob's response... | ||
| Alex knows rotoscope pretty well. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So Bob's response to that is... | ||
| Eh, it doesn't matter. | ||
| I have other evidence. | ||
| It's not just about the tape. | ||
| And then Alex is like, what's the other evidence? | ||
| I don't have any other evidence. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| Bob's an asshole. | ||
| Bob is an idiot. | ||
| So that's the end of Alex interviewing Bob about this. | ||
| But there's a coda after he's done. | ||
| Bob is still on the phone, but it gets really boring. | ||
| There's no more... | ||
| There's no way to go up from Reagan's gay. | ||
| That's going to be your tip-top. | ||
| And you can see and hear in the interview that they're running out of gas. | ||
| There's a lot of pauses. | ||
| There's Alex being like, God. | ||
| So they go to commercial. | ||
| And then they come back with this. | ||
| I'm a little bit late getting back in the studio because my sister was on the PrisonPlanet.com forum and said, is this real? | ||
| And I do have the actual copy of it somewhere in my archives here. | ||
| It's the headline, credit card receipts and snare cowboy ring inside Reagan-Bush White House, Washington Times. | ||
| And then it came out in some other newspapers and they're trying to... | ||
| Because they don't have an IM to that computer for on air. | ||
| They're trying to grab it right now to put it up. | ||
| So that would add some mainstream news to what Bob Chapman was saying. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's the actual microfilm scan of it. | ||
| Show folks that again so I can read the whole headline, please. | ||
| Scroll back to the left side. | ||
| Homosexual prostitution inquiry ensnares VIPs with Reagan. | ||
| Bush, call boys took midnight tour of White House. | ||
| And, you know, even though this stuff sounds shocking, remember the gay porn stars going to Bohemian Grove in the news? | ||
| Remember the gay madam who was the hundreds of midnight visits into the George W. Bush White House? | ||
| Bob Chapman? | ||
| I mean, really? | ||
| It's shocking to hear that, but then when you look at all the other evidence, it's not. | ||
| So there. | ||
| When the media goes crazy with this, I just showed you a mainstream news article. | ||
| I can show you more pointing the same direction. | ||
| So I'm glad that Marley ran into that because I was telling her, you know, search Ronald Reagan gay, and that came up. | ||
| So there you go, Bob Chapman. | ||
| There's some Washington Times backup for you. | ||
| Well, I don't know whether I should have said anything, but it's out, and that's just the way it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fake laugh. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| As I say, he was a nice guy. | ||
| But everybody has their, well, many people have proclivities that are different than others. | ||
| But it was quite an experience living for 36 years in Southern California. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Other things on the radar, the environmentalists are going crazy all of a sudden. | ||
| Great pivot. | ||
| Moving on. | ||
| Thanks, dude. | ||
| Thanks for your shitty memoirs. | ||
| So the main reason I wanted to keep that clip in there is the comedy of, I told my sister to Google Ronald Reagan. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| That's going to get me killed, although you could just Google it. | ||
| Right, you could find this Callboy scandal. | ||
| Wait, he pulled up Prison Planet. | ||
| Is our asshole PJW working for Prison Planet now? | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson's been there since he was like 17 or something. | ||
| He's been a member. | ||
| Of Alex's team for like 16 years. | ||
| Jesus! | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| Yeah, he's one of the originals, like OG types. | ||
| But he's in London. | ||
| Prison Planet was the original, as I recall, what I believe to be the case is Prison Planet was the original website, and then Infowars sprung out of that. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And Paul Joseph Watson is the editor-at-large of both sites, and his Twitter handle is Prison Planet. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I don't care about him at all. | ||
| So there we go. | ||
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Ronald Reagan. | |
| That's going to be a great time travel question. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| If you could go back in time and murder Paul Joseph Watson, would you? | ||
| It'll be great to just... | ||
| I mean, it'll be the same conversation about Hitler, even though he's not going to commit a genocide. | ||
| It'll still be like a... | ||
| There'll be a contingent that's just like, eh, make him feel less scared of everything. | ||
| That'll help. | ||
| That is what seems to motivate Paul Joseph Watson to an extreme degree, is just intense fear of everything. | ||
| But, be that as it may, Ronald Reagan is gay, and a secretive organization holds screenings that they don't warn people that that's what they're going to watch. | ||
| Well, you can't warn people. | ||
| No, of course. | ||
| Then you wouldn't go. | ||
| Well, I would definitely still go, but I would definitely tell a lot more of my friends. | ||
| Let me be clear. | ||
| I'd be like, hey, I'm going to see Reagan get pegged. | ||
| Do you want to come on with? | ||
| I don't think you'd get a plus one. | ||
| I think you would want to crash a Reagan getting pegged viewing party. | ||
| Let me be perfectly clear. | ||
| If I got a weird invitation in the mail and it said, we cordially invite you to a screening of a video of LBJ getting pegged. | ||
| And there will be hot dogs, and there will be food and drink. | ||
| There would have to be thematically appropriate food there as well. | ||
| I really just want a chili dog right about now. | ||
| That's really where I'm at. | ||
| If they said food and drink will be taken care of, it'll be at a private gala. | ||
| Open bar? | ||
| I would be much more likely to go than if someone said, there's an interesting film. | ||
| You should see. | ||
| Because that's an invitation I can turn down seven days a week. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I turn down all sorts of invitations like that. | ||
| Like, oh, we should go see Baby Driver. | ||
| You want to come? | ||
| No. | ||
| It is a great film. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Do you want to go see it? | ||
| No. | ||
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Damn it. | |
| I'm sure it's great. | ||
| I thought I could catch you. | ||
| I'm sure it's great, but I can see it later. | ||
| I can't see a film of LBJ getting pegged later. | ||
| Well, Google LBJ gay. | ||
| Apparently that's all you need to do. | ||
| Find some mainstream news. | ||
| At this point, I'd like to say once again, thank you, Charles, for donating to the show and for bringing this to our attention. | ||
| I knew that this was something that had happened, but I did not know the date. | ||
| And that being pinpointed was a great delight, and this is a real fun escape from shitty Alex Jones. | ||
| Yes, thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
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| We'll go back and see what the fuck Alex was doing. | ||
| And also, just, you know, our website has stuff on it. | ||
| So go check it out. | ||
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
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Yep. | |
| At knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| You can follow us on Facebook. | ||
| Facebook! | ||
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Damn it! | |
| You can go and check us out over there. | ||
| Just Knowledge Fight on there. | ||
| Go to iTunes. | ||
| Subscribe. | ||
| We like it when people subscribe. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Tell your friends. | ||
| Each one, teach one. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| Now that we got the explosive scoop that was, you know... | ||
| The six-year-old Alex Jones scoop. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And, of course, the 20-year-old Harper's Magazine scoop or whatever the fuck it was. | ||
| Or the Washington Times. | ||
| And the 40-year-old Bob Chapman scoop. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, yeah, we're definitely poised to make it big on this one. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| This is the type of shit that's going to shoot us to the top, Dan! | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| You know what, actually? | ||
| I did a little bit of research. | ||
| Because it's so weird, this idea of this group of people who are at this private soiree. | ||
| And I can't figure out who most... | ||
| I thought you were about to say that you watched a lot of pegging videos in preparation for this. | ||
| That too. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| But I'm not able to find... | ||
| Just like we've all been watching a lot of cuckold episodes. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There were like 18 people there. | ||
| Cuckold episodes, that's what I call it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Pornographic episodes? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I like mine with an overarching story arc. | ||
| Serialized? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So there's 18 people there at this party, and we know that Bob Chapman is one of them. | ||
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Right. | |
| I cannot figure out who 16 of them are, but I found out one of the other attendees of this party watching Nixon, not Nixon, Reagan get pegged. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So do the timelines match up? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Are we talking about similar-aged folk? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Would they have been around the same area at that time? | ||
| I believe so, yes. | ||
| Were they both big fans of Reagan? | ||
| Hard to say. | ||
| But I will say that this other guy, he has dentures. | ||
| Oh, so... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alright, I see where you're going. | ||
| Do you get where I'm going with this? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| His name's John Rappaport. | ||
| I'm making all this up. | ||
| But at the same time, John Rappaport can go fuck himself. | ||
| John Rappaport, go get pegged! | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |