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#74: October 4-6, 2015

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the 14th installment in his investigation into why Alex Jones decided to team up with Donald Trump in 2015. Topics covered include: How convincing is Alex at pretending to have a panic attack on air? How shamefully can Alex fanboy out over a visit from Matt Drudge? How many Globalists are there? How many friends does Alex have that fell for the "Nigerian Prince" email scam?

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
22:45
d
dan friesen
55:47
j
jordan holmes
29:51
Appearances
m
matt drudge
04:12
Callers
andy in kansas
00:00
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Is there a twist to this, Dan?
dan friesen
There is.
There's a twist.
jordan holmes
What's the twist, Dan?
dan friesen
It is much like...
jordan holmes
I'm going to call you Dan as many times as possible today.
dan friesen
That's fine.
Who are you, like a customer service representative?
jordan holmes
I don't know, Dan.
Who are you?
dan friesen
Oh, God.
Have you read Making Friends and Influencing People?
jordan holmes
Dan, I have.
And let me tell you something, Dan.
Let me tell you about how you get people to like you.
dan friesen
That's so fucking annoying.
jordan holmes
You remember their name.
dan friesen
I understand, Jim.
That's so annoying.
Those tricks that people do, you can just see through them so easily, all those little influence tricks.
Oh, God, so annoying.
jordan holmes
You can.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think most people can if they just pay attention a little bit.
Just become aware of them, and then you won't be tricked as easily.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I think that can bring us back to the bit, though.
dan friesen
What is that?
jordan holmes
Because, like those people, you know a lot about Alex Jones.
And I can't see through his bullshit.
I think you can.
No, that's not good.
dan friesen
I think you can.
jordan holmes
No, I just don't think I know anything about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Well, that's fine.
I'll help you out.
unidentified
All right.
Thank you.
dan friesen
Today we're drinking Arnold Palmer Light.
Arizona's 23 fluid ounce, almost the size of a wine bottle.
jordan holmes
This is twice as big as a tall boy.
This is insane.
dan friesen
It's great.
unidentified
I love it.
jordan holmes
It's massive.
dan friesen
Iced tea.
Lemonade.
Delicious.
Good summer drink.
It's muggy out in the shy.
jordan holmes
What is happening now?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
What is this here?
dan friesen
I like doing the weather report up top.
Telling everyone how muggy and moist it is outside.
It's crazy.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you right now, this is some good iced tea and lemonade, Dan.
dan friesen
It's good, but it's not as good as our donators.
jordan holmes
Oh, hey!
dan friesen
I'd like to give a shout-out to a couple new policy wonks, both of them named Mike.
What's going on out there, Mike B?
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you for joining up with the team.
jordan holmes
Welcome aboard, Mike B!
dan friesen
And while we're at it, let's give a shout-out to our other Mike policy wonk.
What's up out there, Mike W?
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you so much for donating.
jordan holmes
Mike Winslow, is that you?
unidentified
Are you doing some voices?
jordan holmes
No, that's the guy from...
Police Academy.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Michael Winslow.
dan friesen
Oh, I've never heard him called Mike.
I didn't know you guys were friends.
jordan holmes
I met him once.
We call each other Mike.
dan friesen
I met him once in Columbia, Missouri as well.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't remember it going well.
jordan holmes
Weird dude.
dan friesen
That's the vibe I got.
jordan holmes
He's a weird dude.
dan friesen
Speaking of weird dudes, Alex Jones is pretty weird, guys.
jordan holmes
Oh, real quick, I mailed out those buttons today.
So if you emailed us your address, hopefully it will show up in your mail.
I am...
dan friesen
Fingers crossed.
jordan holmes
I don't know how to...
I put a button in an envelope and then I put a stamp on it.
I assume that's how it works, right?
dan friesen
You didn't put a note in there or anything?
jordan holmes
I don't know how to write notes.
dan friesen
Jesus Christ.
This is so impersonal.
jordan holmes
Where do I have paper?
What's going on?
dan friesen
You could just take that notebook home.
unidentified
That's...
jordan holmes
I'm not gonna...
Well, I've already mailed out...
I'm not mailing out new buttons.
dan friesen
Alright, fine.
Later.
jordan holmes
We'll mail you notes later.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll do that later.
Let's start off today's show with an Out of Context drop of Alex Jones from 2015.
alex jones
People will then go back and listen to what we've said, what we've written, what we have exposed, as they're now doing, and will understand that we do have our finger on the global pulse.
We do have our finger on the zeitgeist.
We do understand how the elite operate.
We do know what their endgame is, and we know how to stop them.
dan friesen
Our show would beg to differ.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't think you're...
People will go back and listen to this.
Two years later, we're like, yeah, and no.
dan friesen
No, not at all.
jordan holmes
Yes, sir, and no, sir.
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
So today we're going to be going over an investigation episode covering the span of October 4th through 6th, 2015.
jordan holmes
God, can we just retreat into 2015 forever, Dan?
dan friesen
I hope we can.
I'd like to address really quick, though, because we did put it out publicly that we have an episode that we're not putting out.
jordan holmes
We're not putting it out.
dan friesen
We did an episode covering...
Alex Jones' further coverage of the events in Charlottesville.
And we recorded the evening of Trump's latest press conference.
jordan holmes
Almost simultaneously with the press conference.
dan friesen
Yeah, and after hearing the press conference, everything that...
Our analysis was good.
In terms of what we had in front of us.
jordan holmes
It was okay.
dan friesen
And how wrong Alex Jones is about a lot of stuff.
jordan holmes
Very wrong.
dan friesen
But with the added context of Trump basically mirroring Alex on so many fronts, it became a thing where that's what we need to talk about.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The episode itself would have been dog shit.
So that's the reason for not putting it out.
But I've been having a lot of thoughts, and I just want to say this really quick.
I feel like...
I kind of know what's going on here with these white nationalists and shit, and I see...
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, what?
What's going on, Dan?
Are they looking for something?
dan friesen
I'm not saying that I know as much as even people who have deeply studied them.
I'm not saying that, but I got a vague sense of what's going on and the direction things are going, and it's bad.
Not good.
I predicted on the last episode we were going to see ISIS-like insurgencies come together, and then immediately there was that guy in Oklahoma who got arrested with a 1,000-pound bomb trying to blow up the Federal Reserve building.
jordan holmes
They found caches of weapons.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They found caches of weapons around Charlottesville.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
That's...
That's literal insurgency technique.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
That's what I would do if I was an insurgency.
You can't buy them and then do that whole thing.
You've got to have them right where they are so they can't catch you.
Then you can go and...
That's for real...
That's for real war shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's scary, and I'm terrified, and I hope that my fears and my expectations and my predictions are off.
I don't know.
We'll see.
But I had one thought.
That I want to share with everybody, and you, Jordan, because I haven't told you this.
jordan holmes
I know, you're looking at me very accusatory.
dan friesen
Not accusatorily.
I think that this is actually a good thought, and I think it's something that should...
It might not actually be a good thought.
This is a mixed good and bad thought.
jordan holmes
All right.
This is bittersweet.
It's a bittersweet thought.
dan friesen
Well, there's a massive difference between people on the left and...
These alt-right ding-dongs, white nationalists and Nazis.
jordan holmes
Yes, Nazis.
dan friesen
Well, the biggest difference that I see beyond some of the very obvious ones are that people on the left, especially activists, engaged people, operate from a place of love.
They operate from a place of love and trust with each other and vulnerability.
There is a part of it that is a shared goal, a shared objective that is unity.
I get taken care of and so do you and so does everybody else.
And there's a freedom to be what you are.
Gay people can just be gay.
Trans people can be trans.
And there's a vulnerability in living who you are publicly.
And there's something that brings people together about that and creates community.
So when you see these organizations, these hippie leftist organizations that protest things, often you'll see people who stand arm to arm.
On the right, it's fear.
It's fear and paranoia.
And that is not sustainable.
You see what's happening even within the Trump White House.
Everyone's turning on each other.
It's constantly happening where, because they come from this place of conspiratorial paranoia, this fear, this fear of someone trying to squash them, and it's unmerited.
It's this fear of whiteness being eradicated, or whatever version you want to fill in that gap with.
That fear makes you fear everyone else, even the people you're supposed to be in lockstep with.
So, even though we see these disparate white nationalist groups coming together, and they're doing some damage, there is a part of me that knows full well they're going to turn on each other because they're going to start thinking each other are feds.
They're going to come to a point where they're like, you're an infiltrator.
It's cannibalistic.
These sorts of organizations can't really make the sort of loving, cohesive bonds that people supporting each other can.
And so that's my positive feeling.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Now, unfortunately, the part that's negative...
was gonna say you're gonna you're gonna need to put a huge butt on the end of that well the part that's negative about it is that when these conspiratorial paranoid type of tendencies come out it often leads to explosions so there could be some really negative flare-ups and what have you but they'll never they'll never be able to work together well and that's a positive i think i don't
It's cold comfort, and I don't think it's that great, but it was something that dawned on me when I was going over some of these stories and watching some footage.
From the demonstrations and the Nazis.
It's terrifying, but at the same time, there's a pitiable aspect when you see them interact with each other.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I agree.
I agree.
And let me tell you how I experience it.
dan friesen
Let me say before you do, that I accept that point I'm making might be trite.
It might be something very small, but it weighed on my heart.
jordan holmes
Well, I...
I agree with you.
Like, whenever...
So, I took the ill advice of many people who are saying, you know, here's what we gotta do.
We can't leave these guys in isolation.
We should talk to them.
If you have somebody that you know who is engaging with this alt-right bullshit...
dan friesen
I unfortunately know where this is going.
jordan holmes
Talk to them.
And I tried to talk to my dad, and...
I got a lot of InfoWars back at me.
dan friesen
You forwarded me that email and there's...
jordan holmes
There's a lot of InfoWars in there.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a good bit of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's not encouraging.
jordan holmes
And he doesn't watch InfoWars, or at least I fucking hope not, but it is somewhat ironic.
Well, yeah, that's exactly the point we've been making this whole fucking time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's just ironic to have spent the last pretty much year of my life fighting against Alex Jones only to be related to it.
But whenever I'm talking to him, I want him to see what's wrong.
Because I believe he's a good person.
So I want him to see, look, this is not good.
I know you think you're following through with your principles, but they've been warped and twisted by this nonsense.
And if you could just for a second remember you're not a Nazi.
dan friesen
Or a Nazi apologist.
jordan holmes
And then think clearly, yeah.
And they just can't do that.
That's my side.
The Nazi side is all Jews should die.
So I'm going to go with we're fighting out of love.
That's my...
If you're apologizing for...
That's fucking...
You're apologizing for Nazis!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You don't get to be in the middle if you're apologizing for Nazis.
dan friesen
No, no.
And that's the part that's...
It's very trite.
And a lot of people have made this point already, but it...
You can cast aside very easily the argument that there were good people who were...
There just happened to be some Nazis with them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
dan friesen
That argument flies right the fuck out the window, because I've been to a hundred protests in my life, and any time there were Nazis or Klan people...
I would have left that protest.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I would have been like, I'm getting the fuck out of here.
jordan holmes
Look around you.
If you're surrounded by Nazis, maybe you're a Nazi.
dan friesen
Even if you do care about...
jordan holmes
Or maybe you're being murdered by a Nazi.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's the other possibility.
dan friesen
It's one of the two.
jordan holmes
Both are there.
dan friesen
Because even if you do care about Southern heritage so much that you feel like you've got to go to this protest, the only two options are leave or then demonstrate against the Nazis being a part of your protest.
Those are really the only two socially active...
Responsible things you can do.
But be that as it may, let's not dwell on this too far.
jordan holmes
Well, it's just the simplest way of putting it is not everybody who voted for Trump is a Nazi.
dan friesen
Now they are.
jordan holmes
But every fucking Nazi voted for Trump.
So now it's time to look in the goddamn mirror.
Are you the one who's on the side of Nazis?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Good luck.
jordan holmes
Good fucking luck, assholes.
dan friesen
So we...
I don't want to talk about this anymore.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
And barring some sort of weird event on the Alex Jones throw, which I don't see happening because he's now on vacation.
So we're safe to go back to the past.
Go back to 2015.
Today, like I said, we're going to be going over the 4th to the 6th.
Hey, guess what?
On the 4th, David Knight hosted.
We don't have to talk about that shit at all.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah!
You know what?
I'm looking forward to all the stuff we're not talking about today, Dan.
That's my favorite part of this show right now.
dan friesen
David Knight, not talking about it.
jordan holmes
Not talking about him.
That's another one in the win column for us.
dan friesen
Anytime you don't talk about David Knight, big old win.
So we get to the 5th, and here's how Alex Jones wants to start out his show.
This is the beginning narrative, the kickoff.
alex jones
Also, in the fourth hour, Paul Joseph Watson will be hosting.
I asked him this morning what he was going to be covering, and it turns out he's going to be covering one of the things I'm going to be covering today when he does the fourth hour.
jordan holmes
This motherfucker's wearing my dress today.
alex jones
In your eyes, the next trendy social justice movement.
This is on mainstream television with a basic endorsement, and if you have sight now, it's hurtful, so you may have to lose your eyesight.
Just like you can't say mother or father, or he or she, that's hurtful to those that do not consider themselves a sex.
unidentified
Your existence is evil.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
So do you want to know what that's based on?
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
I just want that to limit...
I can't be happier that we're in 2015, Dan.
dan friesen
That's great.
jordan holmes
Do you know what a big problem for us in 2015 is?
dan friesen
People pouring drain cleaner in their eyes?
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
That's trendy.
jordan holmes
God, I love it!
May we live here in perpetuity.
dan friesen
So, Alex Jones saw some sort of, I don't know, probably.
jordan holmes
He's read Vonnegut's short story, like, one time, and that's all he knows.
No, that's all he's doing right here.
dan friesen
That's not what this is.
This is...
He saw some British version of a show that's like My Strange Addiction or something like that.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
You know, one of these shows where they follow people who live a pretty bizarre existence.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because he even plays part of it on the show.
jordan holmes
Everybody loves a freak show.
dan friesen
He keeps saying that it's like, oh, they're worshipping these people pouring Drano in their eyes, and instead it's just like, they're just showing that there are people who believe that they should be blind, and they...
Poor fucking shit in their eyes.
There are people who do that.
There are people who believe they should have one less arm and cut off their arm.
It's pretty complicated.
I don't think I support it 100%.
But then at the same time, it's not hurting anybody.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
There's an argument.
dan friesen
It's so small of a population that I'm not sure I need to have an opinion on it.
But I don't want to stop them necessarily.
But I also want to say that the trendies are not worshipping them.
jordan holmes
Probably.
There's a conversation to have about whether or not we should be watching that, because that's the same thing.
Or not should be watching it, but like...
That's going to a carnival and having the guy say, look at the bearded lady.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
Especially the ones that are like, I eat my bed and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
There's a conversation about that.
Copycats is not the conversation.
dan friesen
Well, so much reality television does deteriorate into that carnival sideshow shit.
Oh, yeah.
I'm not super thrilled with that, but...
Then again, I'm a fucking 33-year-old man.
I shouldn't be.
jordan holmes
There's such a 90s local broadcast news feel to that, like pouring drain cleaner in your eyes.
Could that be happening to your kids?
Find out now.
dan friesen
If the local news guy was really obsessed with globalists and the trendies, yeah.
jordan holmes
That would be a way better local news.
dan friesen
So Alex spends like three...
jordan holmes
The weather is going to be a thousand degrees by the end of the week because the globalists are...
Thanks, Dan.
We'll come back to sports.
dan friesen
Wait, why am I the weather guy?
jordan holmes
You're everybody's weather guy, Dan.
dan friesen
You're right.
So, Alex talks about that the trendies want to worship blind, making people blind, and what have you.
He's on that for, like, days.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
It's ridiculous.
Yeah.
But he has other stuff, other narratives he wants to get to.
This one's kind of interesting.
Alex Jones shows...
jordan holmes
As interesting as putting drain cleaner in your eyes?
dan friesen
No, but...
jordan holmes
I don't think anything gets up that high, Dan.
dan friesen
Alex is way ahead of the curve, my man.
jordan holmes
Did he pour drain cleaner in his eyes?
dan friesen
He didn't.
unidentified
This is about...
jordan holmes
Did he do it 20 years ago, though?
dan friesen
No, but this is about linguistics.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And Europeans listening is wrong.
They have major members of the UK and German and French government in the last month on television.
We've ran the articles saying it's good we've opened the borders up to the Middle East.
Because it's bad that Europe has white people.
And it's good they're all about to be gone.
Well, I'm not against North Africans or Arabs.
But a lot of them have picked up the chant, yeah, we're coming to breed you out.
We're going to conquer you.
You're weak.
Because the government says, come in, we're weak.
Take us over.
When I talked to Paul Watson about this a few weeks ago, I said, what do you think it is?
And he said, I think it's cuckolding.
And I said, you mean where?
A woman basically dominates her husband in front of another man and the man has sex with her.
I don't mean to talk about this on air, folks, but this is psychology.
And he goes, yes, exactly.
And I said, you're absolutely right.
That's what I think it is.
unidentified
Wait, why did he pose it as a question then?
dan friesen
Because he's talking to Paul Joseph Watson.
jordan holmes
I know, but he's talking to Paul Joseph Watson.
dan friesen
So I says to him.
jordan holmes
And then he gets eerily specific.
He might as well have said black dude right there.
I think he was actually saying, do you mean that video you sent me?
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
And then Paul Joseph Watson was like, yeah.
And he was like, I agree, I like that video.
And then he just rewrote the story a little bit.
dan friesen
Because cuckolding, in terms of Shakespearean language, it just meant...
A lady who was cheating on her husband and everyone knew it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It wasn't necessarily what you see in modern pornography, which is what Alex Jones is describing.
jordan holmes
Clearly what he's describing!
Exactly what he's describing!
dan friesen
But more importantly, this is 2015.
Alex Jones was on the fucking vanguard of cuck!
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
That's great.
jordan holmes
That is great.
dan friesen
He doesn't start throwing it around until the Cernoviches come along and stuff like that.
But he's right there.
jordan holmes
Which kind of means they cuckolded him.
dan friesen
Or I think they might be right around the corner.
I think they might show up around the same time as Roger Stone, quite frankly.
jordan holmes
Oh, do you think cuckold is their call?
It's like the horn that goes up and all their ears perk up?
unidentified
It's like cuckaw, but it's cuckaw.
dan friesen
Cuckold!
Cuckold!
So, I'm pretty thrilled with that.
I didn't know that Alex Jones was on the cuck tip that early.
jordan holmes
I'm excited.
He is the meme machine, Dan.
dan friesen
You're not going to like this next clip because it's one of the three times in the eight and a half months we've been doing this show that I've labeled a clip woof.
So get ready for that.
This made me exasperated.
alex jones
Can you be homosexual?
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm already out.
alex jones
Married to someone you love of the same sex and have a good life and a good culture?
Yes, very rarely.
There are cases of it.
But if you look statistically, the suicide, the abuse, the drugs, the degeneracy, the mutilation is off the chart.
It's the most unhappy group of people in the world.
Why do you fucking think so?
That's because you hurt us and were mean to us and didn't embrace us.
Really, there have been cultures where it's been fully embraced by the government and they promptly collapse.
jordan holmes
Like the Greeks?
dan friesen
Well, this is just repetition of what that homophobic pastor said on the show like three weeks ago or whatever.
Maybe a month and a half ago in the chronology of 2015.
This is just an example of him literally repeating things his guests say.
But that's part of the woof.
I knew that your answer was going to be what he deflected from immediately after, which is kind of nice.
It's a little frustrating, but it gets so much worse.
alex jones
This has been done to cause the collapse of civilization because the globalists are developing high-tech reservations that are exempt from the taxes, from the cultural degradation, that are separate.
You don't get into the globalist proto-Elysium bases that are on the ground.
And then they're on artificial islands and being established.
You don't get on to those things when you buy into any of this stuff.
That is a cultural poison put out there to neutralize society.
Do you think the very homosexuality of the schools and the culture and the movies and the literature, the little front men like Gore Vidal, who meant well, do you think...
Those same people really cared about you when they were putting HIV in hepatitis shots at clinics in New York and San Francisco to give gay men HIV, the first weaponized true strain.
HIV is just a whole cover for a whole bunch of different strains they've developed.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And it attacks people that already have run-down immune systems.
Racially based.
But because Caucasians...
jordan holmes
Wait.
alex jones
Are so closely aligned to Africans genetically, you still get crossover.
It could still kill white people.
But you notice how many black folks have it.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
You can sneeze if you got HIV and give a black person it.
What?
So, let's talk about reality here, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
Let's talk about reality.
jordan holmes
What the fuck was that shit?
dan friesen
It's pretty amazing.
jordan holmes
That's a misunderstanding of all the things all the way simultaneously.
dan friesen
Largely, yes.
jordan holmes
Also, even his argument of gay people destroy civilizations.
If you embrace them...
That's why the globalists have no gay utopias.
dan friesen
Right, I guess.
jordan holmes
Free of the cultural degradation.
dan friesen
Yeah, he argues that globalists...
jordan holmes
So doesn't he want the globalists to be...
Doesn't he want to join the globalists then?
dan friesen
He also argues that globalists, like, fuck each other all the time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but in a no gay utopia.
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
Duh.
How do you not know that?
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
And then...
And then...
Oh, boy.
Weaponized HIV.
We can have a conversation about that, Dan.
dan friesen
That's John Rappaport shit.
jordan holmes
Reagan put crack into the black community.
I will not put Reagan past developing HIV.
dan friesen
Whatever.
jordan holmes
But, oh boy.
Dan, if I understand this correctly, white people are resistant to HIV.
dan friesen
Yes.
But...
jordan holmes
Why?
Why are white people resistant to HIV?
dan friesen
Because it was designed specifically just for Africans.
jordan holmes
He does not understand DNA.
dan friesen
He does not.
jordan holmes
He doesn't even come close to it.
dan friesen
No, and most of the studies that have been done have shown that there is an incredibly higher risk in black communities of HIV, but the reason is generally...
jordan holmes
Not genetics.
dan friesen
No, generally it's because of poor resources in black communities.
Right.
The systematic differences of shittier educations because we let the public school systems deteriorate.
And just access to healthcare.
Those are the things that are the main drivers of the risks.
And intravenous drug use, things like that, also are a factor in it.
You get why I marked that oof.
jordan holmes
That's a big oof.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
But let's talk about reality.
jordan holmes
That's such a great punchline to that.
It's hard to argue with the timing on that.
dan friesen
In that clip, I didn't edit it.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's really what he said.
jordan holmes
Even if you did edit it, he said, you can sneeze on a black person and give them HIV.
dan friesen
He did.
jordan holmes
Which, even out of context, is not true.
It's insane.
It's insane.
Even out of context, that's horrifyingly racist.
dan friesen
It'd have to be a hell of a sneeze.
jordan holmes
It'd have to be.
If you've got TB and HIV and you're just jumping on somebody, coughing into their face, maybe.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
It's not like 28 days later.
dan friesen
No, I think he thinks it is.
jordan holmes
I think he thinks that's what HIV is.
dan friesen
So, be that as it may, in that clip, Alex is pretty...
jordan holmes
That's our next button.
You can sneeze on a black man.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
alex jones
No, it's not.
dan friesen
So in that clip, Alex maligned the homosexual community.
In that clip, he maligned sort of...
I don't know if he maligned black people, but he certainly...
jordan holmes
That's offensive.
It is offensive.
No, that's suggesting that black people are genetically inferior.
dan friesen
That's fair.
I think that's fair.
But what you need to know is what Alex says in this next clip.
alex jones
When you're hanging around with a high-powered Democrat, you're basically hanging around, in most cases...
With a group above the Ku Klux Klan.
The Ku Klux Klan is in their dialectic, the dumb group that they use to just create war against white people.
And to make any type of Anglo rights or culture look bad.
Because they don't like that either.
They don't want any culture the globalists don't control.
Anything strong.
jordan holmes
That's smart.
alex jones
But they really don't like black people.
The globalists really hate them.
And that's why they got the blacks right underneath their wing.
Right there going, I'm going to give you free stuff.
I'm going to pay your women not to have men in the house.
And I'm going to put gangster rap out there to make your men think it's cool.
So they dress and act like it.
The police are primed and trained to put you in prison.
Then we're going to train your leaders to say, kill the cops.
So that you'll kill the cops.
So the cops will even attack you more.
So we can put all of you in prison.
Now you go ahead.
I'm your daddy, Al Sharpton.
With a Rockefeller Foundation hand up my puppet area.
And you do what I said.
Now you go right out there and play in traffic.
jordan holmes
Show me on the doll where Al Sharpton touched you.
alex jones
I mean, you're not going to make it to the next level of development, ladies and gentlemen, unless you love everybody.
And that means every race, every color, every creed.
And you love their humanity.
But then they take those of us that have love in our hearts and they manipulate it and say, good, accept everything.
Accept Drano in the eyes.
Pay for sex changes.
Pay for abortions.
Let us have your kids and tell them how to be sexually active when they're seven years old.
unidentified
Do what we say.
alex jones
Submit to us.
Show us how moral and good you are and how open you are and how tolerant you are so that we tolerate cultural death.
And you notice now they're saying, Facebook has 50 different sexual preferences you can say you are, including no sex.
And in the future, you will be asexual, unsexual, drone creatures under the UN plan.
This is all admitted.
dan friesen
It is not all admitted.
unidentified
I hear you.
dan friesen
That is not all admitted.
jordan holmes
You got me listening.
Now you're talking.
Give me some drone people.
dan friesen
The UN puts out a plan where they're like, we're going to make people asexual drone bots.
jordan holmes
It's all been admitted.
dan friesen
It's all been admitted.
jordan holmes
It's in the WikiLeaks.
dan friesen
Totally.
This is pre him saying it's in the WikiLeaks all the time.
unidentified
I know.
jordan holmes
That is...
Yeah, in this time period, it's still in the white papers.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's in Agenda 21 or something like that.
jordan holmes
The...
The plan of the globalists is really convoluted.
dan friesen
Very much so.
jordan holmes
They got a lot of plates spinning in the air to try and get this one to work out.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
And if the globalists are the ones who really hate black people, they're just doing a bad job of it.
dan friesen
How so?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, if you really hated black people, there are so many better plans as opposed to...
Building up the KKK as a false flag for white people to hate other white people.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Also black people to hate white people as well.
So then you power up the Black Lives Matter movement.
dan friesen
But first you have to have created gangster rights.
jordan holmes
You do have to.
dan friesen
You forgot a piece of the plane.
jordan holmes
That's my biggest issue.
The globalists invented gangster rap?
No, thank you, sir.
dan friesen
It's weaponized music.
jordan holmes
No, thank you, sir.
dan friesen
And then they train people to get mad.
jordan holmes
So we're going to start with Cool Herc.
It was the late 1970s.
He wasn't an MC yet.
That wasn't a big deal.
He was a DJ.
He would drive around in a big-ass convertible, two stacks, man.
He would show up, he would fucking spin, and it would be an amazing party.
dan friesen
Galton came over.
unidentified
He was like, you gotta do it different.
dan friesen
Some arch-globalist tricked him.
jordan holmes
I'm sure it wasn't Gore Vidal.
He meant well because rap is an amazing art form.
So Gore Vidal did mean well.
Unfortunately, it led to men dressing differently.
So that makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The point there is that Alex loves everybody.
I think that's the point he wants.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think he got that.
I think I got that.
dan friesen
The point he wants to get across while invalidating the entire point is that he loves everyone.
jordan holmes
I think that's what he was trying to share.
dan friesen
There are those of us who love.
What a dick.
What a dick.
jordan holmes
That's such one of those projection moments where it's like...
Oh, you're just saying all the things you hate about black people and then saying the globalists hate them.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what he's doing right there.
dan friesen
What makes you uncomfortable about black people?
It's all the globalists.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
It's a really sneaky way to be a bigot.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
dan friesen
It's very, very cool.
jordan holmes
All the things that I hate about black people.
It's not that I hate them.
I love black people.
I just hate all the things they do.
But it's because the globalists make them do that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's not me.
dan friesen
A little bit.
jordan holmes
I don't hate.
I don't hate.
I love everybody.
dan friesen
On this show, also, Alex explains that Pepsi is using baby parts to flavor their sodas.
This is not true at all.
So that's great.
He screams about that a little bit.
jordan holmes
He wasn't a big enough deal in 2015 to get sued by Pepsi.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
I wonder if we can, can we forward one of those?
Like, there's no statute of limitations on that, right?
dan friesen
Well, no, there's enough truth to what he's talking about that he probably couldn't get sued, although it's a wild misrepresentation of what's going on.
There is, like, a development, a flavor development company that has subcontracted with Pepsi in the past, and they use cloned...
Endometrial kidney cells or something like that from elective abortions in some of their research.
jordan holmes
So we're like eight steps removed from an actual can of Pepsi.
dan friesen
Right, but there's enough truth in it that I think Alex could get away with not getting sued, but he's straight up lying because he wants his audience to think when you drink Pepsi, there's fucking babies in there.
And that's just not the case.
So, Alex, you know what?
He has a lot of truth.
Despite what we say for hours on end.
He's got a lot of truth.
jordan holmes
For months on end at this point.
dan friesen
He's got a lot of truth backing him up, but he has a problem.
And that might be that he has too much truth behind him.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
I want to hear the argument behind this.
dan friesen
Here it is.
alex jones
You know, I found out one of the biggest reasons we're under such government scrutiny right now is because of whistleblowers, documents, things like that.
I've gotten to the point where I can't even respond to whistleblowers anymore because of the fact that I've basically been told that's the issue.
And it's not that I'm afraid to do it, it's that they will arrest me.
dan friesen
And you're afraid of that.
alex jones
Plus, we already know.
They're so mad about Tosh Plumlee folks and Benghazi and all that and Colonel Schaefer and...
jordan holmes
And Tosh 2.0.
alex jones
It's like, okay, what, more whistleblowers proving it?
I don't even want to know, okay?
They carried it out.
jordan holmes
There you go.
alex jones
At a certain point, how do you beat a dead horse anymore?
unidentified
This horse is a lot of leads and all the proof.
alex jones
The government runs secret baby harvesting operations.
Pepsi puts baby flavoring in.
I mean, you know.
dan friesen
There we go.
jordan holmes
They're evil, people.
alex jones
And they're going for broke.
They take down humanity.
The elite will control the whole future.
That's why they're so brutal.
They're not backing down.
Whether you're FBI or CIA or NSA or a banker or a politician or an arrogant NFL football player, do you get your basic living in the beginning of a false reality as the breakaway civilization expands away from us?
And as we're dumbed down and slow poisoned to see if we respond, to see if we notice, as they titrate the dose?
Prostagard is, what is it, ten different compounds all known.
Good prostate function and health.
Saw palmetto.
jordan holmes
It never fails to catch me off guard.
alex jones
Do the research on the ingredients.
It's 20% off.
dan friesen
I've been listening to Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
It never fails to catch me off guard.
dan friesen
I've been listening to Alex Jones every day for eight months, and that gave me whiplash.
When I was listening, even I was impressed.
Like, what?
unidentified
Whoa!
jordan holmes
Whoa, out of there?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Damn, son!
dan friesen
Also, you perked up with the NFL football player.
I think the timeline doesn't match up for that to be Kaepernick.
jordan holmes
It's not Kaepernick?
dan friesen
I don't think so, because I don't think that was in 2015 that he started his public protesting.
He might have still been an activist, but the media paying attention to it I don't think was in 2015.
I think that was last year.
jordan holmes
Either way, if you're saying an arrogant NFL football player, that is quotes for uppity.
dan friesen
But somewhat, yes.
jordan holmes
That's inherently racist shit right there.
That's very racist.
dan friesen
I don't know what was going on exactly at that point, but he always talks about how much he hates the NFL because it's such a distraction from globalists and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That I'm willing to believe that that was a vague, non-specific thing.
I don't know.
I'm not entirely sure.
Could be.
jordan holmes
Still racist.
dan friesen
But boy, is that amazing.
First of all...
jordan holmes
He's tired of whistleblowers.
dan friesen
Too many whistleblowers.
jordan holmes
I'm tired of them.
dan friesen
He hasn't proved any points, and yet he's like, I don't need any more whistleblowers.
jordan holmes
Beating a dead horse.
dan friesen
The horse is alive.
jordan holmes
All these whistleblowers giving me all the same information.
Yes, it was a coup.
Yes, it was a false flag.
I don't need proof.
dan friesen
Purple penguins.
jordan holmes
Stop doing it.
I don't want any kind of documentation that agrees with me.
dan friesen
Prostagard.
That's pretty amazing.
jordan holmes
You got a lot of shit coming out of you.
dan friesen
You guys got to poop.
So, yeah, I mean, I agree.
He shouldn't have any more whistleblowers coming up to him.
I wanted to play this clip.
It has nothing to do with anything.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
But it's delightful.
Because in this next clip, he compares the liberals and the dum-dums like us who have fallen for the globalists to a certain other group of dum-dums.
Oh boy.
It's pretty fun.
jordan holmes
Let's find out.
alex jones
It's a total false reality.
These people don't know what they're talking about.
They're pseudo-intellectuals.
So they just repeat talking points to us because they have nothing.
They're chumps.
They're idiots.
They're totally in the hands of incredibly wicked people.
They've bought into a lie and they can't admit it.
I can't tell you how many people have come to me over the years with Nigerian scams and other scams.
And they've said, you need to invest in Nigeria, you need to invest with this prince, we're all going to get a ton of money when we do this.
jordan holmes
Oh, you've fallen for one of those scams.
alex jones
And they get mad when I tell them it's a fraud.
And then they even invest in the fraud.
And then down the road will never speak to me again.
I've had this happen with four different people.
And they hate me when I...
One person really looks at me like they hate me when I see them.
Because they can't admit they got screwed over.
They didn't learn from it.
They just thought I was trying to keep them from being successful.
jordan holmes
You got scammed, man.
alex jones
And that's what these Obama supporters are.
They just get into it.
They just feel like it's their family.
It's their club.
They're cool.
Nobody can stop them.
And they're part of the winning team.
jordan holmes
Woo-hoo!
alex jones
Yeah, you know, UT Longhorns.
It's the same thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, sure it is.
jordan holmes
Same thing.
dan friesen
A couple of important pull-aways from that.
jordan holmes
He totally got scammed by the Nigerian scammers.
dan friesen
I'm not sure if he did.
But fuck if he doesn't talk about it all the time.
That's like the fourth time he's talked about the Nigerian scam.
The other time he was talking about it, he was talking about Prince Ububu or whatever.
It shows up at an Austin bar.
I don't know if that's the next stage of the scam.
I think it's a one-stage thing.
Second, let's take it...
He's lying.
But let's pretend he's not.
He knows four people who fell for the Nigerian scam?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's too many!
Your friends are dumb!
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
He knows more.
Those are just the ones who won't talk to him anymore.
dan friesen
That's fair.
jordan holmes
He's implying that he knows a lot of people who've fallen for the Nigerian scam.
dan friesen
What you don't know is that Alex Jones, when he's not on air, is volunteering at a very tech-savvy nursing home.
It is a place where really old people are exposed to the internet and email, but not told to not answer emails.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
That's my only theory.
Otherwise, the other alternative is, well, two.
One is Alex is lying.
unidentified
Who are these four people?
dan friesen
Buckley.
jordan holmes
Buckley is still talking to him.
Buckley's definitely got in scale.
dan friesen
Buckley's second, third, and fourth ex-wife.
alex jones
There we go.
jordan holmes
That might explain why they're not talking to him anymore.
dan friesen
He thinks it's about the Nigerian email.
It's actually about destroying Buckley's marriage.
So, this whole investigation, Jordan, is about trying to figure out where Alex Jones' head is at about the 2016 presidential election.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
At this point, we get to check in and see who's he into.
Is he into Trump yet?
Because he hasn't been up until this point.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Here we go.
Let's see where his head's at on the race.
alex jones
I would support Trump more if he put a Rand Paul in.
I really like Carson.
Carson is so good.
I can tell he's really a good man.
He's so good that he really believes the state wants to help you and is for forced inoculations.
He just is naive.
He's super smart, but I know people like this.
He just is so good.
He wants to help people so much that he just can't believe the system's corrupt or bad.
And I know a lot of Seventh-day Adventists, they're really smart, loving, hard-working people on average.
Some of the most successful people I know are Seventh-day Adventists, but they still will do whatever the government tells them.
You know, a lot of Seventh-day Adventists were chemically and biologically tested on and radiologically tested on.
They volunteered for it, including in some cases to be killed, basically, because they thought that was Christ-like.
I mean, my mom worked for some of the most prominent Seventh-day Adventists in the country growing up in Dallas.
In PR, she wasn't a Seventh-day Adventist.
dan friesen
Back to the point.
alex jones
But they had a national TV show, and they were really nice people.
But man, I tell you, Nixon used to call up when she was in the office.
jordan holmes
They're really nice people.
alex jones
She wasn't usually the secretary, but sometimes she'd answer the phone when the secretary was out.
dan friesen
Someone used to flash a light at her.
alex jones
The President Nixon's on the line.
So the Seventh-day Adventists are pretty high-powered.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I remember them.
alex jones
It's just that...
That's my issue with Carson.
I'm not bashing the Seventh-day Adventist.
I'm just saying he's too totalitarian.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
He likes low taxes, Christian values.
I really like all that, but you can go too extreme the other way if you then just start saying the state's perfect.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
He said Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, or Carson.
I like Cruz.
I really do like Cruz.
I mean, he's got some better leadership qualities than Rand Paul.
But I've got to say of the three, I like Rand Paul the best.
But I guess you were asking callers.
What do they think about that?
And I think that's a good question if you want to just throw that in.
But I would trust Trump a lot more if he had a vice president who was somebody like Paul or Cruz.
dan friesen
Certainly that does not include Mike Pence.
So that's where he's at.
That's where he's at.
I mean, certainly, long diatribe about Seventh-day Adventists.
I don't know why he needed to go into all that detail.
jordan holmes
We had to find out who works PR for them.
dan friesen
His mom.
jordan holmes
That's what we had to find out.
dan friesen
Alex Jones' mom, apparently.
His family has some weird job mysteries.
jordan holmes
That's some fucked up shit.
What's that?
His mom works PR for the Seventh-day Adventists.
dan friesen
But wasn't one.
jordan holmes
But wasn't one.
dan friesen
I don't understand.
I don't care to unpack.
Once we already have in place the CIA dentist story, the sixth smartest boy in Austin or Texas or the country, who knows?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Who cares?
All of it is...
It's all made up.
It's got to be all made up.
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
I want to know more about the PR for 7th Day.
dan friesen
What PR are you doing?
I'm interested in that too, but I'm saying we can't nail down these...
Because he always talks about, like, oh, my family's in the natural gas business.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Your CIA dentist's dad also?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Who are...
He just...
He assigns whatever job he needs to one of his family members in order to make some sort of connection to what he's talking about.
I don't believe three quarters of the stuff he says about his family.
CIA dentist part, I believe 100%.
jordan holmes
I love that Ben Carson is a good man.
He's a fine man.
He's a bit tyrannical.
Totalitarian.
Totalitarian.
dan friesen
A little bit.
jordan holmes
A little bit totalitarian, but he's a good man.
He's naive.
He just thinks the government is good for everybody.
Like, yeah, no, that's great.
Also, I figured it out.
I figured it out.
Ben Carson, very, very smart man.
Super smart.
The pyramids filled with grain he described are the same pyramids.
That weren't built by the slaves.
dan friesen
That could be.
jordan holmes
That's what it is.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's on the episode that we didn't put out.
jordan holmes
Oh, is it?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, guys, you'll never know how mediocre that joke really was.
dan friesen
The guy who organized the Unite the Right rally on Alex Jones' show, he was a guest twice on the show, and then one, he's like, we're taking down these Confederate statues.
Next thing, we're going to have to take down the pyramids because slaves built them.
Good.
Good, good, good.
Love it.
So...
jordan holmes
I believe you said because slaves built some of them.
dan friesen
Some of them, yes.
jordan holmes
That was my favorite part.
dan friesen
Yeah, hence your joke.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I know, Jordan, that you're very interested to know all that you can about these globalists.
And I'm thrilled...
To announce to you that finally, finally, we've got some fucking specific information from Alex about the globalists.
jordan holmes
No shit!
dan friesen
There's some stats in here.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This clip is weird.
There's some stats?
Oh yeah, he talks numbers.
jordan holmes
He talks numbers?
dan friesen
Oh yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, how many people are globalists?
dan friesen
You're going to find out in just a minute.
alex jones
And so they all have their special gardens, their special drugs, their clean vaccines.
It's all on record.
And they just religiously have their own food trucks, their own jets, their own everything.
And they all get in line and they're all aware of it.
jordan holmes
Everybody likes tapas.
alex jones
Maybe 6,000, 7,000 people on the planet, in their own words, are aware of this.
And they just totally try to just get ready.
And they're all very scared in the elite.
Yes, we're going to carry out the plan.
It's better for the Earth.
We've got to get everything de-industrialized and all the nations ready to fall so they can't stand against the world government when it does the mopping up of the population and emergency surgery to save the Earth.
The carrying population's too big.
The planet's dying.
Well, then why are you GMO-ing and toxic waste dumping and doing everything you can to kill the Earth while you claim you're going to block off the technologies to us and then wipe us out to save it?
The truth is you're greedily grabbing control and being promised all this power by your masters who are not going to give you the life extension when it gets down.
The deeper globalist statements and documents are they're not even going to keep a million people around.
They tell their acolytes, their minions, 100 million.
They're not going to keep a million around, you idiots.
dan friesen
Wait, what's up?
jordan holmes
So he's talking directly to a globalist staffer?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like a PA.
dan friesen
Globalist intern.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just going around like, okay, I'm afraid of this guy, so I will set up all these coups and I'll set up all these overthrows.
I'll make sure these people get the GMOs that are going to kill him.
I'm going to make sure that we keep that population down.
And it's not unless you hear Alex Jones where you're like, wait a second, they're not going to give me the life extension?
But I was promised it.
unidentified
Oh no!
jordan holmes
I'm not going to get the life extension?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's great.
That's great that he thinks there's staffers.
alex jones
Do you understand?
Their nature is not going to change as they continue to power grab.
You're complete idiots.
You're not part of the ruling elite.
You are not going to be given eternal life by the system.
dan friesen
Okay.
That's cool.
alex jones
And I've talked to some of these people and they know that.
And they go, I know.
What do you do?
I don't know.
Because let me tell you, these people start turning against their masters, they get killed real quick.
See, I've never joined these people.
I've never taken anything from them.
I spiritually have announced that I'm not part of them.
And that's why I'm somewhat hands-off.
I have to be seduced in by all their sub-corruptions before I can get to some level where I wake up and I'm in their hands.
But I'm aware of that.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
But this is the master seduction of humanity that you're witnessing.
And if you believe the Bible, it's being run by an ancient, powerful entity with super advanced intelligence that is feeding high tech technology to its internal priesthood to be developed, tested, and deployed.
Now, if you don't believe that, how did people in 1854, 1855...
Envision the double helix of DNA, envision genetic engineering, envision the science of biometrics, social engineering, and the whole plan dropped into the brain of Sir Francis Galton, Charles Darwin, his cousin, and others.
dan friesen
I don't think that makes your argument, necessarily.
jordan holmes
No, that makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Wow, you were freaking out.
jordan holmes
What do you say to that?
Where in the Bible does it say there's a super intelligent being slowly drizzling out futurized technologies to its servants?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like...
dan friesen
The globalist interns.
jordan holmes
Globalist interns.
dan friesen
Yeah, they get the downloads of the hyper-intelligent demon.
jordan holmes
Was that in Ecclesiastes?
Which book of the Bible was that in?
dan friesen
My man, I don't think it's in there.
jordan holmes
I think it was in Paul's letter to the Thessalonians.
I remember he was talking about how you guys need to give up all of your local religions.
Also watch out for the super intelligent evil being beneath you.
dan friesen
Guys, heads up.
jordan holmes
Hey, you know what?
Establish a bunch of laws.
Make sure that you're not buggering each other.
Don't be Thessaly is my basic point.
Also, again, just to reiterate, super intelligent monster living underneath you at all times.
dan friesen
Now, about 2,000 years from now, this is going to come into play.
He's going to start getting Charles Darwin to think about stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How else would...
dan friesen
I love that he believes in human creativity and innovation and progress and all this stuff, but can't believe that people would come up with creative ideas.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't understand.
jordan holmes
No, it's only super intelligent.
dan friesen
It's gotta be a demon giving him technology.
jordan holmes
Do you know what's crazy?
There's a huge parallel between what...
I just heard it.
A huge parallel between what he's saying...
To these globalist staffers about how their masters, they don't care about you.
They're going to start cannibalizing you too.
You can't change their nature.
That is exactly what happened to the GOP.
And Alex personally with his relationship with Donald Trump.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Line by line that's what happened.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, it couldn't be anymore.
His paranoia is exactly what is happening to him right now, and it's fucking hilarious.
dan friesen
And that's what I'm talking about up top.
That's the paranoid mindset that tears apart everything.
Like, I mentioned the Trump administration as being sort of a microcosm of that, but look at Alex Jones' fucking staff.
Look how quickly people just show up and leave.
Like, Jakari Jackson still hasn't left, but he obviously takes off at some point.
jordan holmes
He's going soon.
dan friesen
He fired the fuck out of Joe Biggs, and then he shows back up occasionally now, but clearly is on a real, real long leash.
In the episode that we recorded and didn't put out, when he's interviewing Jason Kessler, the guy who organized the Unite the Right rally, he accuses him of being a Fed.
jordan holmes
Which is a delight.
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, there is just a complete destructive...
A force that's within paranoia.
jordan holmes
Evil eats itself from within.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Goes the...
dan friesen
Shakespeare.
unidentified
Tolkien?
dan friesen
Shakespeare.
Will Shakespeare.
jordan holmes
Dragonlance?
dan friesen
So that brings us to the end of everything that's important on October 5th.
Let me see.
Is there anything else worth talking about on this episode?
Nope.
Nigerian Prince.
Oh, no.
This is worth talking about.
He takes calls for a long time on the show.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Asking people what they think about Trump.
dan friesen
And just everybody.
What do you think about Carson being a Seventh-day Adventist?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
How do you feel about that?
dan friesen
This guy's call, not worth listening to, but he gets a call from a guy named Raptorman.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Raptor Man, you're on the air.
jordan holmes
He said it?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
He has no...
jordan holmes
Raptor Man, are you a chimera first off?
dan friesen
He has no qualms with using people's fake names, which I kind of respect.
jordan holmes
That's fun.
dan friesen
But be that as it may, call not worth talking about.
Now, we get on to October 6th, which I actually think is kind of groundbreaking.
I think October 6th is a really big day for Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And we'll get to why in a few.
jordan holmes
He wrote his first screenplay for Raptor Man?
dan friesen
It's a musical.
jordan holmes
It's a musical?
dan friesen
Alright.
jordan holmes
It's going to go way better than the Spider-Man pre-shows on Broadway went.
dan friesen
Undoubtedly.
jordan holmes
Oh, for sure.
dan friesen
So, we'll get to it.
He's in a weird place and then something happens.
But he starts off the show mad about guns.
alex jones
Well, you're racist if you don't turn your guns in.
That's what they say.
It's racist white people that want guns.
Really?
I want everybody to have guns, including criminals, because they're going to have guns anyways.
I want zero gun laws, just like we had before 1968.
jordan holmes
That doesn't track.
dan friesen
No, but then, okay, we have a pretty clear statement of his position, vis-a-vis guns.
jordan holmes
No gun laws.
unidentified
None.
jordan holmes
Everybody gets guns.
dan friesen
Everybody.
jordan holmes
Even criminals, because you're already going to have them.
dan friesen
Yeah, who cares?
jordan holmes
How are they getting these?
Are we issuing them?
dan friesen
Well, I have a background check.
jordan holmes
Is there going to be a government program that gives everybody a gun?
dan friesen
It's like the opposite of a buyback.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
Government, you get your Obama gun.
You'd be furious about that.
unidentified
That'd be fun.
dan friesen
He'd be furious about that.
jordan holmes
He would be so furious about that.
That'd be great.
Okay, new pitch.
Everybody can have a gun.
No gun laws.
But every gun is stamped brought to you by Obama.
dan friesen
Ooh, that'd be...
jordan holmes
That'd be a fun...
dan friesen
You'd be so torn.
jordan holmes
Oh, I know, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Everybody gets a gun.
You just have to give them to us.
We stamp them with brought to you by Obama on them.
dan friesen
I'm into it.
I'm not into it.
I still want some gun laws.
I still want some background checks and shit like that.
I don't think it's great.
Just because you know that people can get guns illegally doesn't mean you should...
Lacks all the rules about them.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Because if you're going to do that, then like, alright, no nuclear proliferation laws.
unidentified
Oh, hey.
dan friesen
Because, hey, rogue nations are going to end up getting nuclear weapons eventually.
So why even try to stop them from getting it?
jordan holmes
You don't want that background check for that guy who is, you know, convicted of domestic violence multiple times.
You don't want anybody looking into that because those guys aren't the...
Maine people who kill people.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
They're not the 75% of the people who commit mass shootings and terrorist attacks.
dan friesen
You're being bigoted against white people, quite frankly.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
No, I'm just saying, that's what the background check...
At the end of the day, it would save so many more lives if it was just like looking into whether or not a dude had hit somebody and had hit his wife.
dan friesen
Unfortunately.
jordan holmes
Like, for real.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, I don't think a lot of those things show up on background checks.
Especially with the lack of convictions that happen for domestic abuse and stuff like that.
I know.
jordan holmes
And the number of unreported incidents is through the roof.
dan friesen
So unfortunately, that might not be effective, but yeah, I agree.
jordan holmes
It's harder to get a fucking dog from a breeder.
dan friesen
Oh, from a breeder.
jordan holmes
Like, there are TV shows.
dan friesen
But it's not harder to get a dog from like a pound or something like that.
You just give them 50 bucks.
jordan holmes
You gotta do a home visit.
You gotta do a whole thing.
dan friesen
I got my cat for...
I just showed up and gave them money.
jordan holmes
You stole the cat.
dan friesen
So what?
jordan holmes
Don't lie about it.
dan friesen
We bartered.
They could keep one of the eyes.
As long as I can take it.
jordan holmes
That's why your Pepsi tastes so much better than everybody else's, isn't it, Dan?
dan friesen
No, but for real, with dogs and cats, if you go to a humane society, you just give them like 60 bucks to cover the shots and stuff, and you can take them home.
So I know what you're trying to say.
jordan holmes
Well, see, that's also a problem.
dan friesen
Animals have clean vaccines.
unidentified
Don't worry about it.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
So like I said, Alex is in a weird place, and he's faking a lot of what I would call ailments on this episode.
He might be like a kid trying to get out of class.
I'm not entirely sure.
Or he's just trying to pretend he actually has feelings.
But here is the first one where he really hams it up about what he's feeling.
alex jones
I'm going to skip this network break so I have more time for your calls.
Just this one today.
unidentified
Just this one today.
alex jones
I mean, I know I get up here and I desperately cover this, and I get physically nauseous now because I knew all this was coming.
The old-timers were 100% right, but now it's all here.
It's so criminal.
jordan holmes
It's all happening, man.
alex jones
I'm not kidding.
I may throw up, actually.
I'm mourning really bad.
This is not drama.
I can't handle this anymore.
jordan holmes
If you say it's not drama, it's totally drama.
alex jones
I never have panic attacks, and I'm having one right now, folks.
dan friesen
No, you're not.
alex jones
I live in an actual occupied country of criminals.
I mean, they actually put cancer viruses on our vaccines.
They're poisoning us.
They're not going to force it on all of us.
They are just totally setting us up for a fall.
They hate...
Us.
They hate everyone.
They are the pure scum.
The corporations are going to jack up water prices, power prices.
They're going to loot everyone.
They're going to hurt everyone.
They hate everybody.
They are so evil.
They are committed to evil.
Hold on just a second.
You know, I have a lot of empathy, and it'd be like watching some guy with a big pot belly who weighs 300 pounds and a wife beater.
jordan holmes
Alright.
alex jones
Beat up his 100 pound wife and his little kids.
It'd be like watching someone kick a toddler.
But I've watched the racial attacks and stuff where a woman's attacked and her baby's attacked and people are laughing about it and people on World Hip Hop Star or whatever the website is are saying how great it is.
I physically get ill because they've turned people into such scum and the empathy's gone and we're just so barbarous and I physically am threatened.
dan friesen
Oh, he's physically threatened.
You know what he's talking about?
He's just talking about all the videos that he watches of black people beating up white people that are on WorldStarHipHop and shit.
He's just talking about how scared he is about whiteness.
That makes him physically ill.
It's a nice reveal that he comes to at the end there that that's what's making him feel that way.
jordan holmes
That reminds me a lot of all the panic attacks I've had, Dan.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I've had tons of panic attacks that last roughly 15 seconds.
Allow me to speak coherently throughout.
dan friesen
On a live broadcast.
jordan holmes
On a live broadcast.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, those are very common types of panic attacks.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You fucking lying pile of garbage.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That's awful, man.
I want to talk, because the other stuff is very standard Alex Jones white identity shit.
But he does mention that they're putting cancer in the vaccines and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Does he explain, Dan, how you can put cancer in a vaccine?
dan friesen
No, he never really gets into the specifics of it, but if you really look into it, the only thing I think he really can be referencing is they found that the presence of Simeon Virus 40, which was some of the cell cultures that they used in the preparation of the polio vaccine between 1955 and 1961.
Accidentally, they didn't know this, but it led to a very high rate of mesothelioma and an increased rate of bone tumors that was statistically higher.
It's statistically relevant compared to the non...
A lot of the time, he's really misrepresenting and just talking about potential side effects.
That are natural or he is inflating statistics.
In this case, what he's doing is talking about bad science that accidentally didn't get caught.
We didn't know any better.
It ended in 1961.
There was a potential for...
jordan holmes
They only told you it ended, Dan.
Right.
That's because somebody found out.
That's because a proto-info-warrior was around in 1961.
Was it one of Alex Jones' previous lives?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Or has Alex Jones been there the entire time?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Is Alex Jones timeless?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Anyways, somebody found this out.
dan friesen
No, a scientist did.
jordan holmes
No, somebody found this out.
An info-warrior.
dan friesen
A scientist didn't stop it.
jordan holmes
A leaker.
Uh-huh.
One of the too many whistleblowers out there.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Right?
And then they stopped it publicly.
But this has been declassified, Dan.
This has been declassified.
No.
No.
They just kept on doing it.
No.
dan friesen
There was a study...
jordan holmes
In the white papers.
dan friesen
There was a study in 1991 by the Anti-Cancer Research Association that did this in 1999.
You know, it's just...
That's how science works sometimes.
They fuck up.
And it's an unfortunate thing.
It's unfortunate, but it's not some sort of terrible plot.
Also, by the way, the conclusion of the study that they found is the data suggests that there may be an increased incidence of certain cancers among the 98 million persons exposed to the contaminated polio virus in the United States.
Further investigations are clearly justified.
So even in the studies that they've done, there is no causation necessarily that is ascribed.
It's just...
It's probably.
It looks like this is probably a player in that.
So what I'm saying is it's not evil globalists.
It's science in the 50s.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, I know.
I know.
jordan holmes
Where do you think they got vaccines in the 50s?
dan friesen
Globalists.
jordan holmes
Super intelligent beast that lives underneath us all the time.
dan friesen
Demon.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Hyper intelligent space demon.
jordan holmes
It was in the Bible.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex Jones in that last clip was faking a panic attack and faking throwing up because he's scared of what's going to happen to white people.
And in this next clip, he sort of fakes that he's going to throw up again.
unidentified
What do you think the American people can do to stop this?
alex jones
Sir, I'm not acting.
I'm not being a drama queen.
I almost threw up.
Don't say it!
I mean, I'm mourning that bad right now, and I've never done this on air.
unidentified
Yes, you have.
alex jones
One time when I went to a CPS meeting and watched the judge take the kid from the family for no reason and get off on it, I threw up afterwards.
I mean, I may have to go throw up during the break.
I don't even know what you do.
It's so bold, but it's also covert.
And they've already lined their ducks up and it's just, it gets worse from here.
It's so over the top.
jordan holmes
Bold and covert.
dan friesen
Sneaky and public.
jordan holmes
That's some real next level shit right there.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
So in this next clip, Alex wants to brag about how manly he is after faking a panic attack and faking he's going to throw up.
jordan holmes
I'm not acting.
Listen, this is genuine.
I truly feel this.
Listen, this is totally genuine.
I really feel these things.
I am never acting.
dan friesen
I fully don't believe that he feels anything.
jordan holmes
He's always acting.
dan friesen
He doesn't feel anything, I don't think.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that might be true.
dan friesen
Except for, again, fear and paranoia.
But in this next clip, he lies about a fight.
alex jones
Except we went in one pub later that day down the street to get hamburgers and, you know, eat.
And the guy was a little globalist minion.
And he goes, get out!
I'm not going to serve you people in here.
unidentified
How did you know?
alex jones
I don't like what you're doing down the street.
And I said, sure, I'll leave.
And he goes, I told you, get out of here.
Oh, you're a little wannabe establishment guy.
You feel like you're part of the agenda.
I bet you're a little leftist.
You don't want the right winger in here.
And I go, I'm more left than you'll ever be, you little fascist.
He said, I told you to get out of here.
And I said, hey, you're the one bowing up, punk.
I'm going to walk out of here.
But if you want to come up and attack me, you and you two guys you think are tough, I'm going to stomp you into the ground.
jordan holmes
Well, then just walk away.
alex jones
Oh, I see you're not so tough now.
You think I'm one of these people been hen-pecked into submission all day?
I'm glad you're not going to get my money.
Let's go.
I said I'd go to your calls.
I'm skipping this break, too.
dan friesen
That is the longest fucking pause ever.
If you're watching the video, he just looks like, what do I do?
unidentified
What do I do?
dan friesen
He legitimately looks like someone whose programming broke down.
Like, I just was telling that story about being really manly and not getting into a fight.
Why did I do that?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
What was I doing?
jordan holmes
What was the point of that story?
dan friesen
He had no idea, and then fucking 10, 15 second pause.
unidentified
I said I was going to take your calls.
dan friesen
And let's skip another break.
After earlier saying, not skipping any more breaks.
jordan holmes
Can't skip any more breaks.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
God, that story is so...
dan friesen
Not true.
jordan holmes
What is that story?
What's the point of that story?
dan friesen
The point of the story, I believe, is that there are people in the world who are shitty.
And Alex is tired of their shit.
But he also knows that he can't just go around beating everybody up.
He's got to let them know that he will beat them up if it comes to it.
jordan holmes
He needs to make that clear.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Otherwise, they'll think that he wouldn't.
dan friesen
Yeah, but they only want to fight him because they're globalist minions that think that they're on a power trip.
But the reality is that Alex knows they're fucking victims.
He doesn't want to beat up victims.
Except he kind of does.
jordan holmes
Seems like he really wanted to beat that guy up.
dan friesen
It sounded like it.
Also, that guy didn't exist.
Or, if he did, that story, the reality of it is very different.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it kind of sounds like Alex went up to a place, probably half in the bag at least.
dan friesen
I would assume.
jordan holmes
And they were like, hey dude, come on, let's...
dan friesen
Calm down.
jordan holmes
You're being really...
Like, it's very difficult to have you in this establishment.
dan friesen
You're screaming white nationalist shit in my bar.
jordan holmes
We'd prefer if you go.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You and your friend want to come fight me outside.
I'll kick your ass.
jordan holmes
Nobody wants to fight you, Alex.
dan friesen
Oh, I see.
You're one of these controllers.
jordan holmes
No, I'm just...
You're just drunk.
dan friesen
Ah, you're drunk.
jordan holmes
I don't...
dan friesen
You're drunk, you globalist.
jordan holmes
Alex.
Alex.
I am on the left.
unidentified
But...
I know you're further left than I'll ever be.
dan friesen
Where'd you get that?
jordan holmes
I would like you to be as far to the left of me as possible.
dan friesen
Where'd you get that?
The left is 300 yards away.
Where'd you get that thing?
jordan holmes
Go left.
dan friesen
Where'd you get that thing that pours out a shot at a time?
unidentified
Did you get it from a hyperdemon?
dan friesen
Hyperdemon.
Intelligent demon.
Technology.
jordan holmes
Galton.
dan friesen
Galton!
jordan holmes
Is that how he goes to bed every night?
dan friesen
I assume.
Well, no, he talks to the devil.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
We know that.
He sees the devil every night when he goes to bed.
Oh, boy.
So, yeah, that didn't happen.
This next clip, I'm going to tell you that I only have a small awareness of some of the science that he's talking about.
It's very complicated.
I didn't have time to look into it.
I had enough time to look into it, enough to know that he's lying.
I'm keeping this in to show what a cocky prick he is, and at the end, he says something that's very telling about his beliefs about vaccines, and that's the reason why I got to keep it in, even though I can't fully unpack GNRH for you, which is, we'll get to it on the other Guns N' Roses house.
alex jones
To neuter and spay pets and to control reproduction in feral animal populations, a similar approach could one day spur the development of long-term birth control options for humans.
This looks incredibly promising, said William Swanson, Director of Animal Research at the Cincinnati Zoo and Botanical Garden in Ohio.
And they're very excited about the approach.
To get there, researchers have already created vaccines that trigger an immune response in animals.
Oh, an autoimmune?
Oh, what's Gardasil do?
unidentified
Oh.
alex jones
You're not going to hear Metro La Raza tell the senoritas not to take it.
Only the racist, fat, dumb gringo will tell you.
dan friesen
So I want to stop right there for a second just to say anytime he brings up Gardasil, he only mentions it in the context of Hispanic people, which is very weird because it works for everybody.
unidentified
That is really weird.
jordan holmes
Why does he do that?
dan friesen
Because he's racist.
jordan holmes
Oh!
Okay.
dan friesen
Because he wants to use it as a way to take pot shots at Mecha and La Raza because he thinks they're gang organizations when they're not their advocacy groups.
So GNRH is this thing that he's talking about.
It's Ghana.
Gonadotropin-releasing hormone.
And it's something that they were experimenting with in terms of being able to create sterility in animals much more effectively.
Right.
jordan holmes
Just like spaying or neutering your pet.
dan friesen
Yeah, and also it was something that I believe was discussed as a means of birth control that could be applied to humans.
Because one of the things that they found in the study...
was that it did make the animals infertile while their treatments were going on, but then as soon as nine months after the treatments were ceased, all of the animals in the studies regained their fertility.
jordan holmes
Holy shit, that sounds like an amazing form of birth control.
dan friesen
Yeah, nine out of ten were infertile during it, at the time of the immunizations, and then nine months later they were fertile again.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's just okay.
The birth control pill has a higher percentage than that, so...
dan friesen
Right, but it could be an effective male birth control.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, that'd be great!
dan friesen
So there is that to it.
Again, it's not perfect, and that's why this hasn't been used for humans, and it hasn't developed further than that.
It's...
It's a study that is interesting, but maybe not applicable, and it's not what Alex Jones says it is.
But like I said, I don't fully understand all this science stuff, and I know Alex doesn't either, because he's just reading off a Daily Mail article.
So, anyway.
alex jones
He's racist.
The response produces antibodies that block.
Yep, this is it.
G-N-R-H.
That's the one they got.
I didn't even read this article.
When they gave it to me, I just looked at it and I said, oh, I know what that'll be.
I'm not bragging.
I shouldn't read it.
But there you go.
Same deal.
They're just announcing their bioweapon.
I mean, I'm not being arrogant.
I mean, I'm just saying, I've seen this so long, I know their next move before it even happens.
But then I kind of get blind to it.
Because I only read the first two paragraphs.
You got hundreds of articles.
I just scanned it.
I only read the first two paragraphs.
So we're kind of discovering it together.
No, it's the same old one.
They got caught adding to the tetanus shot.
See, there you go.
The response produces antibodies that block the releasing hormone, GnRH, required by mammals to turn on the pathways to spur the egg or sperm development.
So this blocks it in the first trimester.
The vaccine and the clash inducing deer contraception, GONACON, have been shown to effectively work at both male and female birth control in animals.
dan friesen
But he doesn't understand any of these things that he's saying either.
But at the same time, right there, he had a complete lie.
He's saying that the blocking of the GNRH...
jordan holmes
In the first trimester, as though it's already...
You're only using it while you're pregnant?
dan friesen
Right, but no, no, no.
What he's saying is that the blocking of the GNRH disallows the sperm and egg from being produced and from being accessible or whatever, however you want to put it.
So he then says, oh, in the first trimester.
No, it's before.
It's before there is a trimester.
jordan holmes
That's the whole point.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
So he's misrepresenting that to try and still make it somehow about abortion.
jordan holmes
He's not doing a good job reading either.
He hasn't read the article.
He's not doing a good job reading.
alex jones
Many human immunizations, the vaccines rely on an immune response that eventually dwindles away, forcing the use of booster shots every few years.
Biologist Bruce Hay of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena and colleges took a different approach to blocking GnRH.
Rather than rely on animals' immune systems to create antibodies, he and his colleagues engineered a piece of DNA.
Oh, genetic engineering!
They call it a vaccine, but it's not.
It's re-engineering your body.
That when packaged inside interactive virus shells, oh, that sounds like it won't have any side effects, are injected into mice, turn the muscle cells into anti-GNRH antibody factories.
That's turn your muscles into cancer.
Fuck you!
unidentified
This is so evil.
alex jones
But take all your shots, you idiots.
Because muscle cells are some of the longest lasting in the body.
They continue to churn out the antibodies for 10 years.
Or more.
Doesn't matter if it can kill you from autoimmune disease, and that's what Gardasil is.
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
Doesn't matter if it causes you to bleed out every orifice.
You know, that's just a small percentage it works a little too well on.
Oh, we just meant to kill your reproduction, not kill you.
Sorry.
Hope you enjoy that tracheotomy.
We love you so much.
We care about you and your family so much.
I have to be cynical and evil about it or I'm going to start crying.
dan friesen
Yeah, I bet.
The thing that right there at the end was the reason I wanted to keep it in because he shows his cards a little bit there and that he believes that side effects that happen naturally in certain small subgroups are the vaccine working too well.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is really dumb.
jordan holmes
Insanely dumb.
dan friesen
So, I just wanted to...
jordan holmes
Also, you can do that with...
That's such a childish bullshit move to read every sentence and then be like, oh, that's what that is, and just dismiss it out of course.
dan friesen
It's not good analysis.
jordan holmes
That's awful.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he's not a scientist.
He doesn't understand what he's talking about.
He's just speculating and saying everything gives you cancer, autoimmune, blah, blah, blah.
And he's misrepresenting, like...
Science.
jordan holmes
It looks like he's choosing one word that he understands out of a long string that he doesn't, and then is just playing, like, match this with whatever word you don't like.
dan friesen
Well, he's trying to do that CNN analysis thing where he's like, he's doing the pause the tape thing, but with reading, basically, is what he's doing there.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he's not a good reader.
But be that as it may, I mean, like, the stuff about putting stuff inside virus shells and stuff like that, that's...
Pretty common.
jordan holmes
No, that's how you do it.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's not an out there evil...
jordan holmes
Man, don't anybody explain CRISPR to him, otherwise we're fucked.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If he ever actually understands any of the words involved with that, we're screwed.
dan friesen
So, at this point, everything changes.
Up till this point, everything has been Alex faking illnesses, talking about being manly, you know, a couple of really stupid narratives.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, coming in.
jordan holmes
Coming in hot.
dan friesen
To this point of the show.
Big, big times.
alex jones
I have never had a deer in the headlights experience this crazy.
Because I'm not really a fan of like rock stars, movie stars, people like that.
I like politics.
And I'm sitting there during that 70 second break and Matt Drudge rounds the corner over here.
And it was just like total and complete deer in the headlights.
And I'm still double taking here.
And then he's hiding over there in the shadows right now.
I'm not kidding.
They're going to say there's another conspiracy theory.
And we got Anthony Guciardi.
Is Matt Drudge over there?
He is over there.
Come on, just for a second to give the national media a heart attack.
Can you just walk over here behind the stage?
They're not going to believe it.
No, see, it's right around this way.
matt drudge
I haven't had one photo in eight years.
alex jones
I know you haven't had one photo in eight years.
All right, I'm going to turn the mic your way.
They can do voice print.
This is Matt Drudge.
Uh-oh.
Okay, it's made up.
It's a stunt.
April Fool's came early.
How many months early?
Five months early?
April Fool's, folks, I fooled you.
Well, am I supposed to go to rebroadcast now that you're here?
Because you get to hang out with my crew and I'm on the air.
This is, like, diabolical.
Oh, my gosh.
Anyways, no, seriously.
unidentified
This is great radio.
alex jones
Do you think folks are going to believe Matt Drudge was here?
unidentified
Probably.
I don't even believe he's here.
alex jones
I didn't believe it.
Only because it was such short notice.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ, guys.
alex jones
I remember years ago.
jordan holmes
Move on.
alex jones
I'm not going to get into it.
This is crazy.
All right.
Well, I'm not going to be aggressive and turn the lights on over there and aim the document cam over there.
But Matt Drudge came in, said hi to me, thought it was a three-minute break, and then went over there.
I'm definitely going to have to play a clip or something.
Do we have one of those special reports coming back from the next break?
dan friesen
Alex is tumescent.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
Yeah.
That's the weirdest, like, schoolgirl...
Wow.
dan friesen
This is fanboy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is not great.
I kind of wish he had told, like, a Robert Evans-style story.
Like, I'm not even going to get into it.
dan friesen
He started that.
jordan holmes
Well, seven years ago, me and Matt Drudge were out in this boat.
With Helen Hunt, and she is taking it in all holes.
And you're like, wait, whoa, whoa, wait, what?
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Robert Evans, what are you talking about?
dan friesen
That's why Drudge stopped taking pictures.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So it gets worse.
Alex's fanboy shit gets worse.
jordan holmes
So Sandra Bullock and I are at a Nazi rally.
unidentified
Anyways.
alex jones
At this point, I admire you.
Maybe I should become reclusive.
dan friesen
Maybe.
alex jones
Huh?
He's a big guy.
I'm in good shape, too.
I was like, man, who is that big guy?
Who is that?
I recognize that guy.
Who's that with him?
I was like, oh.
Oh my God.
What did I look like, Buckley, when he walked in?
jordan holmes
Flabbergast.
alex jones
I mean, I literally was like, who is that?
jordan holmes
Thanks, Buckley.
alex jones
You are something else, man.
God, I tell you.
He's got a lot of class the way he pulls stuff off.
I'm kind of the opposite, like a bull in a china shop.
A loose cannon.
Anyways, I was already super wound up today.
I've already had too many DNA forces today.
And this is now just pushing me over the edge.
I need some Jack Daniels, Buckley, immediately.
I've not been drinking since last Thursday.
I've been being a good boy.
And I've been being nice.
But I tell you, I may have to...
I don't have any...
What do you call them?
Tranquilizers.
But I think I need a tranquilizer dart or something.
Alright, folks.
We'll be right back.
No, seriously.
Because I'm starstruck right now.
This is crazy.
And the way he did it is even worse.
And then it's going to be even worse when they have like...
Some major establishment White House-driven publication saying I made it all up.
dan friesen
Get out while you can.
jordan holmes
Drudge, go.
dan friesen
He says that it's going to be worse when everyone's like, it's all a stunt.
He wasn't there.
Guess what?
He wasn't there.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
I'm kidding.
He was there.
Oh, you son of a...
jordan holmes
You son of a bitch, Dan!
You fucking asshole!
God damn it!
I trusted Buckley, and then you just tore it away from me!
dan friesen
It's believable that he wouldn't.
jordan holmes
It's possible that he wouldn't be there.
dan friesen
But no, he is there.
Matt Drudge is definitely in the house.
jordan holmes
God, that's such a creepy...
Man, I thought regular Alex was disgusting, but...
Fanboy Alex is gross.
dan friesen
Excited Alex is weird.
And that, like, I've been a good boy.
I haven't drank since Thursday.
He sounds like a fucking open mic-er.
Sounds like some dude you see at the bars every night.
Like, ah, I haven't drank in three days.
It's pretty big for me.
jordan holmes
I'm doing a detox right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, a three-day detox.
Just drinking cayenne water.
Get out of here.
jordan holmes
I've had too many DNA forces today.
I don't know what that means.
dan friesen
You're not supposed to take a bunch of those.
jordan holmes
Why would you get to a place where you're taking too many?
dan friesen
Are you worried about the aglets on your DNA?
jordan holmes
Yeah, but is DNA force like a pep pill or something?
dan friesen
No, that I think is the brain force.
I think that's probably what he meant to say.
The DNA force is just supposed to keep your DNA from untangling.
jordan holmes
Well, if he's not getting that right, he needs to take some more brain force, for fuck's sake.
dan friesen
Yeah, seriously, something's not working.
But Matt Drudge is in the studio, and he gives one of his very rare interviews.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
He actually does come on?
dan friesen
Alex, during the break, convinces him to sit in the dark with a mic.
And so he's not on video, but he's on mic.
And, yeah, he gives a bit of an interview, and he says some really dumb shit.
And we'll get to that in a second.
jordan holmes
Matt Drudge?
dan friesen
For those of you who don't know, Matt Drudge is one of the most popular people in the world.
And I say that with no sarcasm, but much disdain.
Because his website, The Drudge Report, is one of the most trafficked internet news aggregators in the world.
And one of the problems of it is that he is a partisan hack.
He is a super conservative dillweed.
And a lot of the stories that he publishes are not true.
A lot of them have, in the past, let's say, he was big on that swift boat for truth.
Right.
Beyond that, anything anti-Hillary, anything anti-Clinton, he's been a huge part of.
Because he came to prominence as one of the first people reporting the Monica Lewinsky situation with Bill Clinton.
That's why he broke into national consciousness.
But before that, he was just a guy who ran a gossip site.
The Drudge Report was just a gossip site.
And that...
The ethos still remains, even though he's supposedly a hard news, breaking reports kind of site.
It's still a gossip rag, but for very serious issues.
We've seen it brought up over the course of...
jordan holmes
It's the Daily Mail.
dan friesen
Worse, because a lot of the stuff is just bullshit.
I mean, so is Daily Mail.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, Daily Mail isn't...
dan friesen
It's worse because there's no titties on Drudge Report.
jordan holmes
That doesn't help.
That doesn't help things.
Even with spectator.org, they give you some nice pop-ups with a nice little tit every now and again.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, I mean, when we went over the Dennis Montgomery investigation about how much bullshit that was, that was Alex being excited that Drudge was reporting on that stuff.
And it's thoroughly not true.
So there's one example just from our history of him shitting the bed.
Also, he's super big into, has been super big into the birther.
Of course.
Polstered for Joe Arpaio with his birth certificate bullshit.
jordan holmes
Are we going to do a greatest hits?
dan friesen
No, just some of the examples of horrible things that he's perpetuated.
jordan holmes
Again, Joe Arpaio should be on death row right now.
dan friesen
Indeed.
And let's see that reported on the Drudge Report.
Also...
He pushed the Hillary is sick narrative really hard.
He also pushed the Bill Clinton's love child story.
It's gossip shit.
And it's all not based on anything except hearsay and what have you.
So Matt Drudge shows up and he has some big news for Alex.
And I'll say that this first clip is about the only piece of it that could be construed as real.
And it's not.
alex jones
Banning the word husband and wife.
I mean, that's so cultic that if I'd have been told 10 years ago they were going to ban words like that, I wouldn't have believed it.
They do it with straight faces.
I mean, has the left, and of course the controlled right as well, but have they gone collectively insane on a control freak bent?
Or is there a strategy?
matt drudge
I would also advise people to not waste their time on this.
I had a Supreme Court justice tell me to my face, it's over for me.
jordan holmes
Which one?
matt drudge
Matt, it's over for you.
They've got the votes now to enforce copyright law.
You're out of there.
They're going to make it so headlines you can't even use headlines.
jordan holmes
Was it Kennedy?
matt drudge
To have a Supreme Court justice say that to my face, that it's over.
They've got the votes, which means time is limited.
Time is not forever.
How many more moons and sunrises will you see in your life rise and flow?
There's not that many.
It's a small amount.
So for people to be saying with this ad.
I'll get on with my Sometime.
alex jones
No.
matt drudge
No, you can't.
alex jones
We're being enslaved now, and that's it.
Under the TPP, they admit you can't put a headline to the New York Times.
You're sending massive traffic to them.
They're claiming you're taking their words.
This is insane.
matt drudge
And you had the Justice Stephen Breyer said, we need to look at a global law.
jordan holmes
Oh, was it Breyer?
matt drudge
I remember just recently getting it lined up with it.
So, they're getting ready for these decisions to come.
You thought Obamacare was shocking.
You thought some of these other decisions were shocking.
Wait until these copyright laws work their way up and the Supreme Court decides you cannot have a website with news headlines linking.
jordan holmes
Was it Ruth Bader Ginsburg?
dan friesen
Alex accidentally says who it was like nine months a year after this.
He's like, it's the conservative one, and I'm not saying it's Scalia.
unidentified
So, it's Clarence Thomas.
dan friesen
That's what we can take away from that, I think?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, that's all nonsense.
jordan holmes
Scully is still dead, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, no.
At this point, I don't think he is.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, no.
I mean, right now.
I'm asking that because I'm afraid of fucking zombies.
I watched Game of Thrones earlier.
dan friesen
We should check.
Yep, still dead.
jordan holmes
Still dead?
Okay.
dan friesen
So, the other thing is, I think what may be...
What a Supreme Court justice was telling Drudge is what you do is done.
In as much as...
jordan holmes
You don't actually do anything.
dan friesen
Well, it's not that you can't take headlines.
It's that what you traffic in is lying about stories.
Like, Drudge is really good and he gets a lot of traffic because he goes and he finds stories and then puts manipulative headlines on the links.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
In order to...
That he wants them to go.
Right, and it makes for an ability to control a narrative, because a lot of the time people don't follow the links and actually read the stories, they just see the headlines.
jordan holmes
They just get the headlines.
dan friesen
And because he misrepresents things so heavily with these headlines, and sometimes it's not outright statements, it's the, you know, statement question mark, where you can get around the, I'm not saying that.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Some people are saying...
dan friesen
Right.
Is it the case that...
jordan holmes
No wonder Alex loves him so much.
That's Alex's M.O. right there.
dan friesen
And that's not a mistake.
That's not a coincidence.
I mean, Alex Jones came up with it.
I'm not saying he came up with it, but he came up on Drudge.
Like, Drudge has been doing this for 20 years, as long as Alex has been broadcasting.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So it's always been a piece of Alex's awareness.
It's always been a piece of his...
What he respects in journalism.
jordan holmes
Headlines.
dan friesen
And nothing else.
Drudge was Andrew Breitbart's mentor before he ever started Breitbart.
And so all of this stuff really links back to Drudge and his willful, misleading people with headlines.
And I would say, I didn't talk to Clarence Thomas.
So I don't know what he actually said to Drudge and what Drudge is misrepresenting, but I'm guessing that what he said was people's intellectual property will be protected in a better way than what you do with it.
You will be able to be sued for manipulating people like this.
And if that's the case, I'm not too worried about that because I don't want people doing stuff like that.
I mean, it's freedom of speech, but at the same time, propaganda.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
I'm very against propaganda because...
We've seen the effects of it.
jordan holmes
I mean, just a rule.
Like, hey, if their headline is this, link to it with their headline.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's it.
Because that's exactly what they get away with all the time is this willingness of people to just read a headline and then bail.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Just like Alex saying, well, I haven't read this yet.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fucking read it!
dan friesen
You have plenty of time.
jordan holmes
Appreciate it.
dan friesen
This is your job.
jordan holmes
I haven't read it.
I haven't had any time.
I'm only a broadcaster talking about it on air.
dan friesen
Right, making a big deal out of it and saying it's a plan to kill everybody.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm not going to read it.
What am I, crazy?
dan friesen
This is Facebook here.
jordan holmes
I'm on Facebook.
dan friesen
I have a fucking 9-to-5 job and I read more of it than he did.
Right.
jordan holmes
It's a Facebookification of the news.
dan friesen
Right, and it predates Facebook.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, I know.
I'm relating it to our younger listenership.
I want to make sure that we're cool, like Poochie, the whole thing.
unidentified
The reference that our younger listenership does.
dan friesen
The thing I want to drive home, though, is that Drudge is really the central spoke, in many ways, of this wheel.
Because his...
His empire and his importance to culture have really run concurrent paths with Alex Jones and Infowars.
He's been more successful.
He's much bigger than Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Not to hear Alex Jones tell it.
dan friesen
No, they're contemporaries.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
But at the same time, they have run similar paths.
They've ended up in the same place as Trump propagandists.
At the same time, Breitbart, Andrew, and the publication are direct offshoots of Drudge.
And Drudge consistently linked to them, which gave them the platform and the audience that they never would have had otherwise.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
So he is responsible for mainstreaming and creating and popularizing so much of this dangerous, lie-based right-wing media.
And beyond that, he's created an atmosphere where everyone knows...
That if you get on Drudge, it brings you massive traffic.
So a lot of people have tailored their approach in order to try and get linked on Drudge.
Which, don't fucking kid yourself for a second if that hasn't informed how Mike Cernovich goes about his business.
How Jack Posobiec goes about his business.
They want to create things that Drudge will link to as opposed to creating things that are true.
Because they know there's a massive upside in it.
And don't think for a fucking second that Drudge doesn't know that.
It's all a fucking huge manipulation media game that Drudge is making millions off of.
Because all he has to do is keep upkeep on his very shoddy site where all he has to do is sit down and write, I don't know, 20 headlines a day that are salacious, pour over the news, find things that you can misrepresent, Boom!
You're done.
jordan holmes
He doesn't do that, personally.
dan friesen
I don't know what his staff looks like now, but there was a piece I read from 2011 that it was just him and another dude.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah, because it is the simplest thing in the world to do.
jordan holmes
Right, and I mean, it's not like he's putting a lot of graphic design people to work on that.
dan friesen
No, and I want to say, I'm saying negative things about him because I think he's a shithead, but at the same time, in the same way that I say Alex Jones is a good broadcaster, I want to say that, Drudge is a brilliant, brilliant guy in terms of picking the stories and presenting them.
The way he does that, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
The fact that millions of people go to his website every day, you can't do that if you're not really good at, I believe the term that I saw someone write was, he's the best wire editor in the world.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, that's a great line for it.
dan friesen
Just the best curator of things in order to make a specific point.
But the point isn't necessarily real.
He's had to redact so many fucking things in the past.
He's led people down horrible paths.
jordan holmes
And he's created a lot of that feedback loop.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's definitely amplified it to a level that, you know.
I mean, just if you have somebody who's your protege go create a site that explicitly makes...
Right-wing propaganda, and then you consistently link to it in an effort to get them more traffic.
He's like this weird conservative kingmaker.
And it's in the same way that those fucks in the GOP can't say anything where the Fox News people will.
If Roger Ailes hates you, you're fucked.
The same thing is true of the Drudge Report and those fuckers.
dan friesen
Well, and what you were saying about the Drudge Report and like Breitbart created Breitbart while still working with Drudge.
Yeah.
unidentified
So the whole thing is this very feedback loopy thing.
dan friesen
And it's the exact same thing that the game that Alex Jones plays less successfully with sending Mark Dice out to make a video and then reporting on that video.
So it is all just elaborate mystery.
And that specific goal, it seems to me, big picture...
jordan holmes
The destruction of reality as we know it.
dan friesen
Well, that's a byproduct of it.
But the destruction of the Clintons.
It really seems like that's what he's mostly about.
jordan holmes
God, they just hate the Clintons.
dan friesen
They really, really, really hate the Clintons.
And I think a part of that is...
I mean, I don't want to bring it down to some like...
You're a misogynist if you don't like Hillary.
But I generally do think that, especially back in the days when Bill was president, there was a lot of the hatred of Hillary that was just, she's the first lady.
Can't you just get a nice dress on and go to a party?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
The fact that she actually had an agenda, I mean, not that other past first ladies hadn't, but she...
She was very...
jordan holmes
She was vocal.
dan friesen
She was forceful about her opinions.
jordan holmes
She spoke out loud and she was an easy target for the...
Fucking monsters like Newt Gingrich and those fucks.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that a lot of the hatred of her comes from that and from internalized misogyny where people are like, hey, you just let your husband go bang all these people.
You're a weak woman.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This sort of shit.
And I think that Drudge is a victim of that mentality along with the lies that we've already shown Larry Nichols telling.
Like, all this is in the same ecosystem.
It's really, really fucked up that all of these people are so connected and it's so clear what they're doing.
So, let's get to this next clip with Drudge.
jordan holmes
You know what?
That beggars a thought.
They don't have any ideas.
None of them.
All they do is try and tear other things down.
Like, Trump isn't doing anything new.
He's just tearing down everything that Obama did.
Like, the Bush's, you know, the progressive tax system is something that they're just continuing to tear down what FDR did.
All of these guys since, what, Nixon?
dan friesen
At least.
jordan holmes
Are just there to try and tear down as much as people have built.
Is there anything that they've built?
Can you think of anything?
dan friesen
They've all built a propaganda network.
That's impressive.
If you take ethics and consequences out of it, it's pretty impressive.
jordan holmes
That is pretty cool.
dan friesen
No, I don't know.
jordan holmes
In our GOP governments, has anything ever come up?
It seems like everything always just goes down for them.
dan friesen
Or backwards.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I can't think of anything right now.
There's probably something somewhere, but who cares?
This next clip, we get to see what Drudge thinks about the candidates in 2016.
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Is Drudge on the Trump train?
alex jones
Matt, before you leave us, and I really appreciate your time.
matt drudge
Oh, and by the way, the presidential candidates, that's exactly what you're saying, the rumblings.
Look at anybody who has any form of success in the polls is because they rumble.
Where it's going to end up, I don't know.
I'm very pessimistic.
I'm very pessimistic on this race because I'm just not so sure it's not going to end up with the dreaded brain in the jar in the Oval Office, once known as Hillary Clinton, who is hypothyroid.
Anybody who is 70 years old who's hypothyroid, you do not elect president, ladies and gentlemen.
You don't!
Do it.
Now, they'll say, well, it has to be who her VP is, whether it's the Castro from San Antonio or the other Castro from San Antonio or the other Castro from San Antonio, whoever it's going to be.
I'm just shaking now after seeing NBC giving her endless hours of airtime over the past 72 hours that Hillary's back and she's back for real.
Now, what that means to you or me, what it means to me, I've got a long history with these people.
They're ugly.
They play dirty.
They sued me for $30 million last time around, with the approval of the president, announced by the press secretary of the White House, a civil action.
dan friesen
That's very misrepresented.
Here's what actually happened.
In 1997, the Drudge Report reported that incoming White House assistant Sidney Blumenthal beat his wife and was covering it up.
Drudge retracted the story the next day and apologized, saying that he was given bad information.
But Blumenthal filed a $30 million libel lawsuit against Drudge.
After four years, Blumenthal dropped the lawsuit saying that the suit had cost him tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees.
He agreed to pay $2,500 to Drudge's Los Angeles attorney for travel costs, claiming that Drudge was, quote, backed by unlimited funds from political supporters who used a tax-exempt foundation.
The Individual Rights Foundation, led by conservative activist David Horowitz, paid Drudge's legal fees in the Blumenthal lawsuit.
A federal judge noted in the judgment that Drudge is, quote, So, even though there was a bad outcome to that suit in terms of he didn't actually get pinned for libel, Legally, Drudge.
jordan holmes
Is a purveyor of gossip.
dan friesen
Yes, and not a journalist.
jordan holmes
In the same way that Le Pen is legally a fascist.
dan friesen
So, that's not the Clintons suing him.
jordan holmes
Is Dredge there for a reason?
dan friesen
I think he wanted to say that thing about the Supreme Court.
I think that's about it.
I think that's mostly it.
jordan holmes
Like, he just showed up and...
Like, he's just doing a drop-in five-minute set?
Like, what's going on here?
dan friesen
No, I think there was something else going on in Austin at the time.
Some, like, conference or something.
I don't know.
I'm not entirely sure.
jordan holmes
Some cabal of monsters.
The monster's ball.
dan friesen
But he also showed up on Savage.
Savage.
Michael Savage's show around that time.
So I think he's just trying to get stories out to demonize people and scare people into falling in line with the right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Hypothyroid.
You don't ever elect a brain in a jar.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I don't understand that insult at all.
dan friesen
I don't care.
But that part's not even as scary as his lies about the Supreme Court.
jordan holmes
I want to get to the bottom of this brain in the jar thing.
dan friesen
I know.
Isn't that a fish song?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I was thinking more Futurama.
dan friesen
Well, fair enough.
jordan holmes
I was going, I'm happy with the president.
Hey, if Nixon can come back to become president in Futurama, I think Hillary has a shot.
dan friesen
Sure.
But the thing that is more meant to scare conservatives is the idea that the out-of-control liberal Supreme Court is going to outlaw even the ability to publish a headline.
It's all part of this.
Internationalism.
Because he's fucking on the globalist tip, too.
Wait, is he?
jordan holmes
Like, for real?
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, if he's fucking coming into Alex Jones' show, he spends about five minutes of this time that he's on just being like, Alex, you are the best.
I love you.
You get it.
So, yeah, of course he's on this globalist tip.
But you asked at the beginning of the clip, is he on Trump?
And no, he's not at this point.
Or at least he's not expressing that on Alex's show.
I don't think the marching orders have been given out, clearly from Russia, for all these people to fall in line and support Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's kind of the sense that I'm getting at this point.
jordan holmes
Pretty much.
dan friesen
And we get, like, we just saw today, Daily Stormer got taken offline after it got hacked by Anonymous.
jordan holmes
Gone to a Russian server, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, what a shock.
jordan holmes
Funny how that works out.
Ugh.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Russians really love fucking shit up on us.
dan friesen
Well, it goes back to that stuff that we were talking about when we went over the Dugan interview.
That book that he put out that talked about the way to subvert a country, especially America, is to support any fringe groups, especially racist extremists.
And that's clearly what's being done.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It's fucking obvious.
All these assholes.
They were primed for it of their own volition.
I'm not saying that it's entrapment or anything like that.
I don't think that Russia made them do something they didn't want to do or blackmailed them or anything like that.
They were already ready to do it, and they got tricked.
jordan holmes
I mean, they got...
dan friesen
They got tricked by propaganda because they're propagandists themselves.
jordan holmes
Yeah, pretty much.
dan friesen
And they think that they're telling the truth, and so...
jordan holmes
Anybody who agrees with them has to be telling the truth.
dan friesen
And when you agree a little bit, but then there's an added piece to it.
That's how you move a propagandist in the direction you want them to go.
jordan holmes
A lie built on a lie adding lies to it.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
So here is another...
Here is the other thing that I think Drudge was there to do.
He was there to scare people about the right, but then he also wanted to talk about gun stuff.
So this next clip is really weird.
alex jones
There is so much going on in the world.
Obama now is talking about, well, Australia had a good plan.
We may have to do that.
That's clearly talking about gun confiscation.
Now, Hillary's doing it.
CNN has pundits just saying, let's just take them.
Do these people realize that this is the line in the sand at the Alamo?
If they really come out in a frontal assault on guns, it means I think they're trying to start a civil war.
It just seems like insanity.
I mean, they may think that they're Stalin or something.
matt drudge
Well, because they're all armed themselves, or they all have that security around them themselves.
jordan holmes
They don't have to worry about it.
matt drudge
I challenge Hillary.
Take away your secret service.
Take it away now.
Take away your secret service.
Dismiss them.
Have no security around you.
Have no guns around you, Hillary.
I dare you.
I dare you.
Obama, same thing.
Drop your guns, Obama.
Take your secret service away, Obama.
Take it all away.
Leave the White House unguarded, Obama.
Let everybody know there's no guns on the White House grounds, Obama.
You know what would happen in 30 seconds?
Both of those people would no longer be on planet Earth.
So they're asking us to drop our guns and to drop our security measures.
jordan holmes
Wait, hold on.
matt drudge
Or what?
So this thing is very real, and I don't see how it's being taken seriously, except for the sick voter.
You can't underestimate the sickness of the American people right now.
dan friesen
I agree with that conclusion.
I don't agree with how he got there.
But you were confused there?
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
So his point is, if Clinton...
jordan holmes
Or Obama didn't have security detail around them.
Their enemies would murder them right away.
dan friesen
And he's probably one of them.
jordan holmes
So, isn't he saying that basically, if the left didn't have any protection, the right would murder you?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's kind of exactly what I hear him saying, and I'm confused as to why he thinks that makes him in the right.
dan friesen
Well, that's the subtext of what he's saying, but he's also using this...
jordan holmes
The Second Amendment people should do something about her.
The Second Amendment people should do something.
I'm not advocating violence.
I'm just saying that the people who love the Second Amendment, notoriously violent folks, do something.
dan friesen
Right.
And the thing there, too, is more the canard that Obama wants to take your guns.
And so they think that a reasonable argument against that is you have guards.
You have guards protecting you, so why are you saying that I can't protect myself?
And the problem with that logic is no one is saying you can't protect yourself.
They're just saying that, hey, we should have background checks for weapons.
I don't get it.
We've been over this.
I support people's rights to have guns.
I can see every piece of evidence that Alex Jones brings up in terms of the fears about people taking their guns.
And I look into them and they're not accurate.
They're not true.
So this line of, like, you want me to put down my gun but you have guards, it falls so flat.
It's so defensive.
It's so built on nothing.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't know what else to tell.
I mean, my thought...
There, though, is, imagine, like, these are the threats that they're afraid of when we're just like, hey, let's have some background checks.
And they're like, you're gonna come take all our guns away!
Like, what would they think was happening if we actually did come take their guns away?
dan friesen
Well, thankfully, we'll never know.
jordan holmes
Would they spin it further?
dan friesen
We'll never know, because that's not gonna happen.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But maybe it should.
dan friesen
You know what?
It's fascinating, too, to see, like, perceived threats of Obama saying, like, you know, we should have background checks and waiting periods and stuff like that in order to cut down on rage killings and stuff like that, domestic abuse situations, getting out of control, go buy a gun, kill your wife the next day kind of stuff.
Let's see if we can find ways.
To respect people's Second Amendment right, but at the same time make the world safer, cut down on rash violence.
jordan holmes
All I hear, Dan, is take away my guns.
dan friesen
Right, that's what they hear.
And they react like this to the point where, like, after this, Alex, for the next, like, three days, tries to start a hashtag Disarm Obama campaign.
Tries to get a meme out there.
Right, so that's their reaction.
Whereas the reaction that most people have to literal Nazis gathering...
They're like, Alex, the same person.
Calm down.
There's violence on both sides.
unidentified
Bad guys on both sides.
jordan holmes
You don't know what's in those Nazis' hearts.
dan friesen
It's utter lunacy.
The reaction to perceived threat as opposed to reasonable reaction to real threat.
It's crazy.
jordan holmes
But it's not their threat.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's the threat they're giving you.
dan friesen
That's the issue.
jordan holmes
It's crazy that you would respond like that to the threat we're making.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, we're just saying that all black people and Jews and everybody should get the fuck out and it should be just white nationalists.
I don't understand why you don't think that that's...
I have every right to believe that everybody but me...
And people who look like me should be dead.
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, even in the episode we're not going to release, we had a clip of Millie Weaver who was there in Charlottesville saying it wasn't all racist there.
A lot of them were just white nationalists.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's right.
dan friesen
And Alex responding in agreement.
That's not okay.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
If that's where you're at, you need to look at it.
So we have one more clip of Drudge.
jordan holmes
Look around you if you're surrounded by Nazis.
Probably a Nazi.
dan friesen
So we have one more clip of Drudge.
And I want to give you this little bit of information before we listen to this.
On the next day's show, Alex Jones is furious that everyone is reporting that he had a weird interview with Matt Drudge.
So far...
jordan holmes
Time is a flat circle, Dan.
We're running out of time.
But time?
Time is all of us.
We are all time.
Don't say that you can do it tomorrow because time?
Time is a flat circle that we're running out of.
dan friesen
And Hillary's a head in a jar.
jordan holmes
Hillary's a head in a jar.
dan friesen
The Supreme Court has told us we can't use headlines.
All that's pretty weird.
Listen to this next clip.
I think it justifies why anybody would think that this interview was fucking weird as shit.
Because this is dumb.
matt drudge
Well, I'll say this.
We never even heard of ISIS until recently.
And I remember when that name first started coming up.
Do you know it was designed to be confused with Daryl Issa?
alex jones
No, I didn't know.
matt drudge
Did you know that's what it was?
Because Daryl Issa was the enemy at the time.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit, yeah.
matt drudge
Of this administration.
You know, there would have been a time Obama could have been impeached.
And I'm thinking of the IRS scandal most likely.
That would have been the one.
unidentified
Sure.
matt drudge
You get the depositions going.
You get the president under oath.
You follow the chain.
Obama most likely would have been impeached.
Boehner decided, we're not going there.
We're not going to have those cities burn.
We're not going to do it.
We're not going to impeach Obama.
And so I felt Daryl Issa...
That's his name, right?
Issa.
Daryl Issa.
I think they came up with the name Isis to be confused with Daryl Issa.
I'm really being honest with you.
I remember when the first time Christiane Amanpour sputtered out this word Isis.
I'm thinking, where did she get that one?
You know, these words are creative.
These events are creative.
Now we act like, oh, Isis has been around for 20 or 30 years.
Says who?
alex jones
It's been around a year and a half.
dan friesen
So he can't even...
jordan holmes
You could just Google it!
unidentified
You could go to fucking Drudge Report and I'm sure there would be an article explaining it!
dan friesen
It's Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.
unidentified
Yes!
jordan holmes
It's very easy to find out!
unidentified
Or...
jordan holmes
Go to your own...
dan friesen
Or if you're confused about the ISIL part, it's the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant.
So, I mean, it's all...
IS?
It's Islamic State.
All of the names make total sense.
No, it's about Daryl Issa.
jordan holmes
Daryl Issa?
unidentified
That's like a weird shitty...
jordan holmes
Wait.
That's a Batman bit right there.
That's the 60s Batman bit where it's like, hmm, yellow.
Yellow is a lot like mellow.
Mellow.
Carmelo Anthony will be going to the Knicks.
That's just made up nonsense.
That's fucking stupid.
dan friesen
Why'd they name it cocaine?
Oh, obviously it was trying to demonize Lee Iacocca.
unidentified
They didn't like what happened with the Pinto.
dan friesen
They're trying to demonize Lee Iacocca, so they take the coca plant and make a drug out of it.
What the fuck?
But the other thing is, I think that he couldn't even keep a straight face while saying it, because he knows how full of shit he is.
I think that he's obviously just spitballing nonsense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, does he think he's joking?
dan friesen
I think that he wants the audience to think he's not, but he is so, like, he's above the joke of it.
I think that he's tricking Alex, obviously.
jordan holmes
Well, it's not hard to do.
He said nice things about Alex, so Alex will believe anything.
dan friesen
Spends five minutes flattering him as lip service in order to make sure that Alex keeps towing the line, and then spreads nonsense like Daryl Issa is trying to be demonized by ISIS.
jordan holmes
No, Obama is demonizing Issa, because he was his enemy at the time?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
So then Obama's like, hey...
Let's call him Isis.
unidentified
Ah?
Ah?
jordan holmes
Was that...
Where was the writer's workshop there?
Because they could have done better.
dan friesen
This is evidence that he does not have a big staff.
Drudge is just...
He's running on fumes.
So, that's about it for the sixth.
jordan holmes
I actually heard that they called him Daryl Isis to make fun of Daryl Hannah.
That's what I heard.
dan friesen
I thought that Daryl Hammond was named that to make fun of Daryl Hannah.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, no.
Daryl Hammond was named that to make fun of just Ham.
dan friesen
Hammond, Indiana.
unidentified
And let me tell you why Indiana was named the way it was.
jordan holmes
We could do this all day.
unidentified
We could.
jordan holmes
This is a delight.
dan friesen
We could, but let's not.
So that brings us to the end of the 6th, and we have legit no development past where we were in terms of his opinion toward Trump.
But I do believe that we're starting to see the forces come together.
It's weird that Drudge comes on, because it is rare that he pokes his little fucking head out of his Miami condo and gives interviews.
That's very strange.
And so it's a pretty big deal.
I think there's consolidation that we're seeing.
And on the heels of Alex's very clear pro-Russia, pro-Putin stances that he was making in the days just before this...
I see trouble.
I see trouble.
No definitive conclusions, but I see trouble.
jordan holmes
It's going to have to be...
We're going to have to find the day...
When we find the day where he declares for Trump, we're going to have to cross-reference it with something else going on at the same time.
dan friesen
I legitimately think once we find the day, I might not be able to record for a week or so and just...
jordan holmes
Dance around like a lunatic?
dan friesen
No, pour over everything from the past week before that.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And try and figure out exactly what was going on with all the players involved.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Just find out what happened on Drudge Report the days before.
jordan holmes
Zodiac killer style.
dan friesen
Find out where Roger Stone was.
Find out what Trump had said.
Read all of his appearances from the days before that.
There's something.
I mean, I'm at the point where I don't believe...
That he just decides he likes Trump.
And I don't believe it's a coincidence at all.
jordan holmes
Not anymore.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I thought...
I'd been on the side of, let's hang back.
Let's not make any rash conclusions.
Of course, the Russian narrative is something that's...
Because it's happening concurrently with the present, where there's the Mueller investigation, all of these different things going on.
My first thought is, of course...
We're going to be more likely to see Russia everywhere.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Even when we're going back.
But goddammit, if this whole thing doesn't sound fucking suspicious as shit.
Especially with Dugan coming on in the present.
dan friesen
And, uh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
This is bananas.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is bananas, Dan.
dan friesen
There's some weird shit.
But again...
jordan holmes
I have kept a running tally, and I have said your name 654 times.
I nailed it.
dan friesen
You have influenced me.
jordan holmes
I nailed it.
dan friesen
So, I mean, I agree with you, and I believe we've done as best we can to push back against just willy-nilly jumping into that conclusion.
And we're not there at that conclusion, like I said.
unidentified
Not yet.
dan friesen
I think that there's something going on, and that doesn't necessarily mean, oh, he's...
You know, Putin's bitch.
But it's clear that he likes Putin before he likes Trump.
jordan holmes
Way more than he likes anybody else.
dan friesen
And that's not nothing.
jordan holmes
He likes Putin more than he likes Rand Paul.
dan friesen
Seems like it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Seems like it.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Fascinating.
dan friesen
You know what I like more than Rand Paul?
Our website.
Knowledgefight.com.
You can check that out.
We have links to stuff.
We have a lot of things on there.
Also, there's a button where you can press.
It says support the show.
You can give us some monies.
We would appreciate it.
jordan holmes
You and you can join Michael Winslow in supporting the show.
unidentified
Beep, beep, beep.
dan friesen
That's a truck backing up.
unidentified
Beep, beep, beep.
dan friesen
That's an ambulance in London.
jordan holmes
That's a great Michael Winslow.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
That's excellent.
dan friesen
I told you I met him once.
jordan holmes
That rivals Spaceballs right there is what that was.
unidentified
Ka-ching!
dan friesen
That's a cash register.
Which will be opened if you donate to our show.
jordan holmes
Why did I quit stand-up?
dan friesen
These chops.
Also, you can follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.
jordan holmes
You can look us up on iTunes, knowledge fights.
Listen to it, share it, tell everybody you know.
Let's do the whole thing.
dan friesen
Also, you can find us on Facebook.
jordan holmes
You can find us on Facebook.
dan friesen
You can check us out there.
You can send us a message on there.
You can review the show.
We do appreciate it very much.
Beyond that, I don't know what else we got.
jordan holmes
Um, I don't know.
The world is a sprawling mass of nonsense and violence right now, so, you know, be good to people.
That's some trite bullshit for you right there, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, that type of thing would never come out of the mouth of a John Rappaport.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
I'll tell you that right now.
jordan holmes
But you know what would?
Time is a flat circle.
dan friesen
You think that John Rappaport speaks that poetically?
jordan holmes
I think that his teeth do when he's not wearing them.
dan friesen
Oh, do you think?
We've already done the CIA dentist bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we've done the CIA dentist bit.
Sorry.
dan friesen
Fuck.
jordan holmes
I was making a callback.
unidentified
Come on.
jordan holmes
Come on, man.
That makes me so angry.
Do you know what it makes me want to say, Dan?
dan friesen
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
It makes me want to say, fuck you, John Rappaport!
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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