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Aug. 11, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#72: August 9, 2017

Today, Dan tells Replacement Jordan, comedian Matt Riggs, all about what happened on the August 9th episode of The Alex Jones Show. Topics covered include: How often does Alex get visited by Satan? Does Alex sometimes describe people as "evil," but like in a good way? Is Roger Stone pretending to be in a secret society? Why the hell does Adam Curry guest on this episode?

Participants
Main voices
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alex jones
16:38
d
dan friesen
57:22
m
matt riggs
22:33
Appearances
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adam curry
02:17
Clips
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donald j trump
00:11
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roger stone
00:41
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
Today, we're doing things a little bit different.
This is a podcast where me, generally, and my friend Jordan sit down, have a little bit of novelty beverage action, and talk about Alex Jones.
However, Jordan is currently on vacation in Iceland.
And so, filling in as replacement, Jordan, one of my dear friends.
The hilarious Matt Riggs.
matt riggs
Hello, everyone!
dan friesen
Welcome.
You've brought us a novelty beverage.
matt riggs
I did.
You asked, and I answered.
dan friesen
Yes, we got Crush.
matt riggs
Yes.
dan friesen
We got Orange Crush Powder.
Singles to go.
matt riggs
Well, the problem was, you mentioned soda, and I gave up soda years ago.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's correct.
matt riggs
And I was like, well, I wonder if this shitty powdered soda will be good enough.
dan friesen
I meant to say it could be a soda or a juice or something like that, but I fucked up in the text message.
matt riggs
I live right next to a CVS.
I don't want to give too much information, but I live next to a CVS, and I just was too lazy.
My lady friend went to the Jewel, which is also by our house.
I've given away too much.
dan friesen
In Chicago, near a CVS and a Jewel.
Not narrowing it down at all.
matt riggs
No, not at all.
But she happened to be going there, and I was like, hey, pick me up some weird sort of beverage thing, and she got that.
dan friesen
Well, that's good.
I mean, we've never had a powdered beverage on the show, and it tastes good.
matt riggs
Yeah, it's pretty good, although we had to stir it with the powdered thing, the thing the powder came in, and I've noticed it.
dan friesen
Don't fucking tell the people out there that I don't have spoons at the ready.
matt riggs
I'm going to guess you might have.
I just didn't ask you for one.
dan friesen
That's fair.
matt riggs
So you told the people that.
dan friesen
I'm projecting.
matt riggs
My thing is, if you don't drink it right away, it starts to like...
Come back into pieces.
dan friesen
It settles.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's no good.
Crush!
matt riggs
Maybe we can check the crush leaves at the end and see what our future is.
dan friesen
Ooh, yes.
I'm excited to do some scrimmining.
Something like that.
matt riggs
Scrimmining.
dan friesen
That's all bullshit, but what's not bullshit is how great I feel about our new donor, ladies and gentlemen.
I'd like to give a shout-out to our newest policy wonk.
What's going on out there, Amy?
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you for joining up.
matt riggs
Good job, Amy.
dan friesen
Yeah, thank you.
If you'd like to become a policy wonk, you can do so by going to knowledgefight.com, clicking the support the show button, and you will be a policy wonk.
matt riggs
Fantastic.
You can also send me PayPal money rings for you at yahoo.com.
alex jones
Shut up.
dan friesen
Don't try and poach my donators.
matt riggs
God damn it, I just want money.
One person's ever given me money on that thing.
dan friesen
Was it far out?
No, it was Chris R. Okay, shout out Chris R. Hey, Chris R. Today, we're going to be talking about the August 9th episode.
That was Wednesday of the Alex Jones Show.
But before we do, I wanted to sit down and, you know, before we started recording, you told me you don't know pretty much anything about Alex Jones.
matt riggs
No, I mean, oddly enough, right by my house there's an InfoWars sticker on a pole.
unidentified
Wow.
matt riggs
I'm really giving out so much information about where I live.
unidentified
CVS!
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
Infowars sticker.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
Jewel.
matt riggs
I did not put it up.
There was a guy that I worked with at my job that was a big fan of Alice Jones.
dan friesen
Okay.
matt riggs
He's sadly no longer with us, but not related to that, I don't think.
dan friesen
I hope not.
Could have been the globalists done got him.
matt riggs
Could have been.
I think it was also mental illness.
So I know a little bit through him, and then just pop culture related, and then through you.
dan friesen
Sure.
I spout a lot of nonsense off.
matt riggs
I listen to about 15 minutes of your podcast.
dan friesen
That's about all anyone ever really needs to listen to.
matt riggs
I'm very excited to listen.
I'll listen to two hours of this one.
dan friesen
That's about one-tenth of an episode, probably, the 15 minutes.
That's generally our rule of thumb.
Well, I'm excited to fill you in, let you get to experience...
The rocky road that is Alex Jones.
This August 9th episode is pretty interesting.
I think that we've chosen a good one to throw you in the deep end of a kiddie pool.
matt riggs
Can I ask you a quick question about Alex Jones?
dan friesen
I can answer anything.
matt riggs
Well, because I feel pretty educated on news-based stuff.
dan friesen
Sure.
matt riggs
Is that going to help?
dan friesen
No.
matt riggs
No?
dan friesen
No.
matt riggs
Oh, okay.
I thought maybe he was part of the spin of all the other stuff around the president or whatever.
dan friesen
He is, but knowing the reality is not going to help you here.
matt riggs
I might know some of the pieces, though, right?
dan friesen
Oh, for sure.
I mean, this episode is going to touch on the news that is broken in terms of the situation in North Korea, the FBI raid on Paul Manafort's house.
Those sorts of things are going to come up, but...
Knowing the facts isn't going to give you context for what Alex is saying.
matt riggs
But I won't be surprised that my Uncle Paul's house got raided.
dan friesen
Yeah, no, that's...
matt riggs
Should I have led with that?
That my Uncle's Paul managed?
dan friesen
Probably.
matt riggs
Yeah, no.
dan friesen
So, let's jump right in.
Alex is in a weird mood on this August 9th episode because of the situation with North Korea.
The idea of threatening a nuclear war or nuclear brinksmanship obviously is going to put any parent in a weird headspace.
matt riggs
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And so here's how he starts out his exploration.
alex jones
Merkel orders Trump calm down as North Korea crisis peaks over Guam threat.
See, the media, CNN, all of them are acting like it's Donald Trump's fault.
And I'm not here as an apologist to Donald Trump.
But North Korea is continually saying, we're going to have fire, we're going to have death, we're going to rain down destruction on you, we're going to kill you, we're going to turn the United States into a molten nuclear war zone.
And then Trump comes back with one little smidgen back of that back, trying something new, as the Secretary of State pointed out, and the media acts like he gave the nuclear weapons to North Korea.
dan friesen
So, uh, he's not an apologist.
matt riggs
No, and he also has good music licensing.
dan friesen
I don't know how he has the rights to a lot of these songs.
Like, there's a lot of artists who clearly would fucking hate him.
matt riggs
Sure.
dan friesen
People like Moby, The Beatles.
Yeah.
I don't know what they're doing on there, but...
matt riggs
I don't know the rules on YouTube, but that does not seem appropriate.
I guess his website or whatever.
dan friesen
He's gotta have some sort of, like, package contract with a...
matt riggs
One of those companies, BMI and all that stuff?
dan friesen
It's gotta be something like that.
matt riggs
Sure, if he's making that kind of money.
dan friesen
I have no idea what it is, but it seems very weird.
He even plays, like, Raging...
Against the machine.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
What?
matt riggs
That weirdly fits, although it doesn't.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, I like this because it's a nice basic sort of thing.
It's just Alex being like, wah, why can't Trump do it?
Why can't Trump do it?
Kim Jong-un does it all the time.
He threatens.
Why can't Trump threaten me?
matt riggs
Because we're not crazy people, that's why.
Because we're not petulant children.
We're supposed to be the adults in this situation.
dan friesen
Right?
matt riggs
Yeah, that's why.
dan friesen
That's a reasonable perspective on it.
And because, like, of course, they always do that.
And the reason that there's a status quo is because we don't.
matt riggs
Yes.
dan friesen
How things get out of control is...
You can have a really stable situation with one crazy person and one sane person, but once the sane person starts acting crazy, now it's a disaster.
matt riggs
I'm going to put this out there.
I do not want there to be war, but...
If they do shoot at Guam, I'm excited to learn more about Guam.
I don't know much about it.
dan friesen
It's a convenient excuse for education.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
I would say read up now.
matt riggs
Okay.
It may not be there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this idea of the potential nuclear war is going to kick Alex Jones off into an incredibly fucked up rant.
That takes up about 10 minutes of the first hour of his show.
matt riggs
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
And I want to say this.
This next clip is about 12 minutes into the show.
And when he's going into this sort of stuff this early on the show, you know we're in for a treat.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So here is Alex Jones talking about humanity, I think.
I'm not entirely sure how to set this up, but you'll see.
alex jones
I should probably get a live mic in here and just walk over to the world map I've got, section by section here, of the continents and the countries, and point out the grand strategies.
dan friesen
He could do that.
alex jones
The grand chessboard.
We're putting in a new studio with TV walls twice the size of what we've got in here so I can walk with PowerPoint and show people in daily briefings what we're dealing with.
dan friesen
He's been saying he's going to build a new TV studio for about the last two years.
And it has not materialized.
But that's one of his new big things.
He's like, "We're making a million dollars.
Do you watch other news stuff?
Uh, some.
Certainly not as much by volume as this.
matt riggs
I cut the cord, but just clips will pop up on my YouTube.
I like Shep Smith from Fox News because he seems like the only sane person that's on that network.
Maybe Mike Wallace is good.
But in the background...
They have these giant iPads that are, like, the size of your wall, yet it just looks like an iPad.
And I'm like, what?
That seems useless.
You're just like, fucking Minority Report?
Please go back.
dan friesen
No, it's, yeah, it isn't saying the technological, like, bullshit that they're doing to try and distract you.
Like, remember when Wolf Blitzer had a fucking hologram on his show?
Yeah, all this stuff is like, we don't need this!
Go back to Cronkite days!
matt riggs
Right.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex Jones has not gotten to his point about humanity just yet.
alex jones
We can properly go over this for folks.
Because on screen and on the walls and all around us is the planet, the ship we're on in deep space.
And we've got people running the ship that are pedophiles, that are devil worshippers, and that have handed out nuclear weapons to everybody.
But it's worse.
Now their genetic engineering is spreading.
And we're out here like if we were a science fiction movie, like some...
Weapons colony, some weapons test, where some dangerous species has been put out in a primitive form on a planet for somebody's entertainment to watch if we can survive in what we do once we get to this level.
We have an ancestral memory of technology, all the legends, all the information, all the understanding, the epigenetics.
We know we've been in space.
We know we're advanced.
We know it's all just this memory.
It's there.
We all know what we can build.
We all know what we can do.
And now we're sitting here on the face of this whole thing.
I'll probably do it next segment.
unidentified
Thanks.
alex jones
That was quick.
matt riggs
Thank you.
alex jones
Sitting here on this planet with this incredible potential of space colonies and life extension and unlimited cloning.
And we got people running things that want Kim Jong-un in charge.
dan friesen
So this is what I would like to say.
I'm going to brand this as the beginning of a meltdown that's about to happen live on air.
But I'd like to open the floor for questions, because you looked confused.
matt riggs
Well...
It's so weird to me, because I don't have the background of him before he kind of jumped into politics.
Right.
So it's so weird to meld the two.
Like, that he's still talking about the crazy, in my opinion, allegedly, crazy stuff that he has to say.
dan friesen
Don't worry about it.
matt riggs
It's crazy.
I don't know what lawsuits are going to happen.
dan friesen
But that's not even the crazy stuff that he was into years ago.
Years ago, there was a lot of New World Order stuff.
There was a lot of 9-11 stuff.
matt riggs
Sure.
Sandy Hook.
dan friesen
Sure.
That's still even political conspiracy.
Yeah.
matt riggs
Have they cleaned that hook off yet?
dan friesen
Oh boy.
matt riggs
It's real sand.
dan friesen
What he's getting into here is essentially like real bullshit pseudoscience.
It's bordering on ancient alien stuff.
That's what he's getting into here.
Humans have a memory of being off planet.
Stuff like that.
We used to be in the stars.
We used to be traveling through space, but all that memory has been erased by the globalists because they want us to think that we're a fallen people.
matt riggs
Oh, okay.
It also sounded like there's an episode of South Park, which is basically that whole thing.
unidentified
Yep.
matt riggs
Yeah, we're all a TV show.
dan friesen
The taco that shits ice cream?
Yeah.
Basically, you'll see a lot of stuff that is from pop culture pop up in his rhetoric.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
Don't worry about that.
He references movies all the fucking time.
matt riggs
Cool.
dan friesen
I wish he would have been like, it's like that South Park episode.
Because he couldn't have been more clear.
Yeah.
So, like I said, this is the beginning of a breakdown.
He has a little bit of a meltdown on air, and he gets into what I'm going to just tell you.
It's a bizarre rant.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I have cut out nothing from it, but I have cut it into segments.
So, you know, whenever a theme sort of switches in the rant, I've made a cut.
But I've cut nothing else.
I have not changed the context of this at all.
matt riggs
So you said earlier that you think that this rant is because he has children?
dan friesen
No, I think that he would like to present it as the nuclear threat is scarier for him because he has children.
He does bring that up.
I'm a father.
I don't want nuclear war.
That sort of thing.
matt riggs
He's based out of Texas?
dan friesen
Austin, Texas.
Occupied Texas.
matt riggs
So right now, just with North Korea, he's fine.
Texas isn't going to get hit by a nuclear bomb anytime soon.
dan friesen
In theory, they could hit Austin.
matt riggs
Oh, could they?
dan friesen
If you listen to Alex.
I'm not sure if that's true.
matt riggs
I know Kim Jong-un hates South by Southwest.
dan friesen
Oh, totally.
He thinks it's sold out.
matt riggs
It was fine when it was just a music festival, but now it's all the art stuff.
dan friesen
So much fucking comedy.
matt riggs
It's ridiculous.
dan friesen
I agree.
matt riggs
I don't want to see Matt Bronger anymore!
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know what the truth and what the rumors are about their actual range, what they could actually hit.
But Alex thinks that they can hit Austin, they can hit Chicago.
He basically thinks they can hit the entire United States.
Oh, shit.
So he's pretty scared, and it leads pretty strongly into this rant.
alex jones
We're being killed by whatever it is in charge and manipulating and the thing in charge wants us to take microchips to buy and sell.
It's now on the news.
He's building a worldwide AI system of computers that will project its three-dimensional image into the seats of power, into the shopping malls, into the town squares, and we will worship the AI.
matt riggs
I don't know if you're allowed to stop it.
dan friesen
Yeah, what's up?
matt riggs
He was just bragging about spending millions of dollars to have this great technology studio, and now he's bothered by technology?
dan friesen
Well, he's bothered by the idea of AI being in control of everything, certainly, but I do see where you're coming from.
One of the things that me and Jordan have realized is that arguments that sort of hinge on hypocrisy are a little bit useless.
Just because, like...
matt riggs
No, I see that.
dan friesen
The people on the right, and especially Alex's version of the right, they don't give a shit about being...
Like, spoiler alert, he's going to advocate later in this episode for regime change in North Korea.
Meanwhile, he complains about how the globalists...
Committed regime change in China that's led us to the chai comms taking over and stuff like that.
It's like, where is your base?
Where is your moral base in terms of, oh, it's fine as long as the globalists aren't doing it.
matt riggs
He's also preying on the fears that, like...
People that went to my church ad in the 80s and 90s about the chips in your hands and all that kind of stuff.
That's been around forever.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
matt riggs
It's like, fucking write a new song.
dan friesen
He's been saying it for 20 years.
matt riggs
Yeah?
dan friesen
Yeah, because that is the fear.
That is the Antichrist.
It's just that interpreting revelation being the mark of the beast that's need for buying and selling.
matt riggs
It's like listening to Jack Van Impey.
I don't know if you know Jack Van Impey.
dan friesen
Oh, I do.
Him and his wife, Rexella.
matt riggs
Oh, Rexella.
Yeah.
dan friesen
My dad used to love Jack Van Impey.
We would watch it late nights.
matt riggs
I hated it.
But there was a Christmas episode where the announcer played the trumpet, and I loved it.
dan friesen
The guy who looked like Ricardo Montalban?
matt riggs
That's right, Rexella.
dan friesen
Guys, if you've never seen Jack Van Impey, what was his mystery called?
matt riggs
JVP, Jack Van Impey Productions.
dan friesen
Yeah, check it out.
matt riggs
I'm sure it's on YouTube.
dan friesen
I'm sure they've got a robust social presence, social networking presence.
All right, here we go.
Back to the rant.
alex jones
Bye.
Because it's going to know when we're going to order something from Amazon before we do.
And it's going to know when we're going to get cancer before we do.
And it's going to save us.
But we have to give up our humanity to be saved.
We have to give up our humanity to have a baby.
But it won't be a baby.
It'll be a new humanoid with five daddies or five mommies.
Because you can't have a human in this new system.
It can only be humanoid.
The crime will be being male.
The crime will be female.
The crime will be male and female in union.
They sold you on the sexual revolution in the free love of men and women.
And then once they had you there, by successive approximation, they walked you into the gates of hell.
unidentified
Fuckers.
Fuckers.
matt riggs
Those bastards.
I've been having free love my whole life.
dan friesen
But you weren't around in the 60s.
I was not, though.
But that's just, you know, fear of gays and fear of trans people put into slightly different language.
matt riggs
Dude, I went into the bathroom the other day, and there was someone else, there was a lady in the stall next to me, and it in no way affected me.
unidentified
Whoa!
matt riggs
Yeah!
dan friesen
That's crazy.
matt riggs
I know!
dan friesen
Wow, you are so deep down this globalist rabbit hole.
matt riggs
Cheers.
unidentified
You have been brainwashed and then there will be no babies!
matt riggs
Well, no.
Humanoid babies will be there.
dan friesen
Right.
But I thought he was saying that in the future the great thing that's going to come is unlimited cloning.
matt riggs
Yes, of course.
Unlike the limited clone that we have now.
dan friesen
Right.
He's hung up on this idea that the globalists want to make male and female bad, and that's why they're creating...
He believes that they're making people want to be trans by tricking them when they're children and stuff like that.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
So he's off on some wild shit.
matt riggs
I feel like this is just rhetoric from someone who's constantly online.
Like, you can't live a real life and just, like, think that this is a possibility.
dan friesen
Well, it's rhetoric from someone who gets most of their information from, like, Reddit.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that a lot of his scoops and his anonymous sources are Reddit posts and 4chan stuff and shit like that.
So I think it does, I think it informs him a lot, but then at the same time I think he is aware that that's who his audience is, too.
So, you know, people who are...
Caught up in the fears of our current time, if you will.
matt riggs
I'm a little worried going into this show because I'm not a huge fan.
I don't donate money, but I tend to watch the clips of the Young Turks.
And my fear coming in was that the Cenk fella was going to be the progressive version of Alex Jones.
Or like our friend Joe Fernandez says, they're the progressive Fox News.
Now that I've heard the first ten minutes of this, it's like, I'm good.
I feel safe.
I'm fine.
dan friesen
We wrestle with this a bunch, too.
The idea of, is there a left version of Alex Jones?
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the closest we can come is kind of Keith Olbermann.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
But he's not as crazy.
But he is unhinged in his performance.
matt riggs
Yes.
dan friesen
He screams a bunch.
matt riggs
He does.
dan friesen
He has dubious sources.
matt riggs
And the way he talks is very similar to episodes of Ancient Aliens, where it's like he talks in a way like he's not actually saying anything.
unidentified
Yeah.
matt riggs
It could be.
I've noticed that in the last few times.
dan friesen
Is it the case?
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And that's not great.
But there is no one like this anywhere.
There's no one like Alex Jones, except for...
Possibly in like a snake charming church.
Oh, sure.
You might find someone like him in Appalachia.
matt riggs
Yeah.
It's those people that would come into the Hardee's I worked at at 9.30 on a Sunday night and not clean up after themselves.
dan friesen
Very rude.
matt riggs
Those sons of bitches.
dan friesen
So, this rant goes on.
It's not just about the sexual revolution leading us from, hey, dudes and ladies fucking, hey, how about we, you know...
Trick you into...
matt riggs
Dudes are turning into ladies, ladies are turning into dudes, but it's not like they're turning into a third sex or something, right?
Am I wrong on that?
I don't want to sound old, but...
dan friesen
Well, I mean...
There's a much bigger thing afoot.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
Because it's not binary.
There's not just two genders and someone switches to the one that they feel they are.
I mean, I guess that is the case sometimes, but there's intersex folk, there's...
There's a whole range of identities that are available to people, and Alex is very threatened by that.
matt riggs
I always just thought there were some days where Matt wants to watch Beaches, and there's some days where Matt wants to watch Predator.
I just figured that's how my life was.
dan friesen
Hold on, you're being incredibly reductive.
matt riggs
No, I'm not.
dan friesen
That's you having a feminine side.
matt riggs
I'm having fun.
dan friesen
All right, let's get back to this rant.
alex jones
Using the weapon of the open, free society, using the fact that we don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, they can successfully...
Walk us into total genetic and cultural and species doom.
unidentified
But the doom is not reserved for just the humans.
alex jones
Everything will be defiled.
Everything will be twisted.
Everything will be mixed.
Everything will be deformed.
Everything will be made hideous and crying out for destruction.
Before the Force is allowed to finally kill everything on the planet.
matt riggs
What Force?
alex jones
But because of free will, the life must be turned upside down and must beg for its delivery into death.
But it will never get that far.
matt riggs
That voice is so great.
alex jones
Because God will spare flesh.
But if God didn't intervene, there would be no flesh spared.
dan friesen
What?
You look very confused.
matt riggs
So now he's religious?
dan friesen
Oh, he's very religious.
This whole rant is about God.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's about God being the only answer against the globalists in the New World Order.
matt riggs
I feel like if I were about to start a heavy metal band...
dan friesen
I like that you didn't realize that.
matt riggs
No, I didn't know.
It doesn't make sense for all the other stuff that he says.
But if I was going to start a heavy metal band, I would put clips of him talking before my songs.
Because it's just fucking nonsense.
unidentified
Doom.
Yeah.
matt riggs
That's crazy.
But I get it.
He's a talented broadcaster.
Like, that's...
It's like listening to Rush Limbaugh or something, where you're like, I don't agree with him, but he's at least good at this.
dan friesen
It does get old after a little while.
If you listen to it as much as I do, you start to get fed up with the tricks.
matt riggs
Is that why Jordan took a vacation?
He's like, I can't fucking stand it.
dan friesen
I gotta get away from this shit.
No, thankfully, he doesn't have to listen to nearly as much as I do to make this show.
But, yeah, I mean, our first episode, that was one of the two things we wanted to make clear off the bat.
One is that...
We don't want Alex Jones kicked off the air.
That's not our agenda.
We are just trying to document how much of a bigot and a liar he is.
And then the other thing is that, say what you want about him, he has a lot of skills.
The ability to just freestyle rap this shit for like 20 minutes, it's unbelievable.
matt riggs
It's pastoral, in a way.
I don't know if that's the appropriate word.
It's very minister-like.
dan friesen
Yeah, and that's...
Why?
He's getting the spirit in him, basically.
And now he's revealed in the middle of this rant that God's got to spare some of that flesh.
And now we take a turn towards the very religious.
matt riggs
Is he also the guy that thinks that old Walmarts are being turned into detention camps?
dan friesen
Now hold on.
matt riggs
Is that him?
dan friesen
That's very complicated.
matt riggs
Oh no, do you believe that as well?
dan friesen
No.
It's complicated though.
Because Alex did talk about that stuff.
Jade Helm 15 back in 2015.
But he denies that he thought it was a government takeover.
And I can find no real evidence that he's lying about that.
He said it was just trying to psych the public out and get them ready for the eventual military takeover.
It's like psyops, basically.
But on one episode, some guy did call in and say that he saw some armed UN people in a Walmart and that he got his cell phone taken away for taking a picture.
And Alec was like, I'm flying out tomorrow!
So he kind of believed that that was what was going on.
So he's like half there, half not.
But he definitely said Sandy Hook was fake.
He definitely thinks that almost all mass shootings, that the victims aren't white.
Are fake.
Yeah.
He's a very bigoted white identity type guy.
matt riggs
What do you think happens to our country now that there's literally...
Like, each side, or whatever you believe on, there's an option for you to go with.
dan friesen
You mean the sort of, like, denial of truth?
matt riggs
Yeah, you can easily just...
You can follow the path that you want to believe in instead of having to be faced with the truth or with other people's truth.
dan friesen
Well, I think it ultimately leads to confrontation.
And I hope that the confrontation can be peaceful and fact-based.
Like, conversational.
I know that's laughable.
It's going to end up with militias and shit.
I don't see any way that this doesn't...
It doesn't matter what happens with Trump, really.
I mean, it does in the world stage.
Like, if he fucking nukes somebody, that's a problem.
But in terms of our country's stability, I mean he doesn't matter in the sense that even if he's impeached, we've still got a big problem on our hands.
This alt-right, white nationalist fringe that has been empowered and emboldened is not going to just go away.
matt riggs
I'm just glad I'm a white male that didn't graduate college.
dan friesen
You're right in their demo.
matt riggs
I am perfect!
dan friesen
Yeah, you got camouflage.
matt riggs
I gotta start writing some new stand-up.
dan friesen
I can't imagine it would be difficult.
matt riggs
No?
dan friesen
It's a very, very easy headspace to get into.
matt riggs
What if I did my normal crowd work stuff, but it was all about alt-right shit?
dan friesen
Just say that fucking people who aren't straight white dudes are dumb.
They love it.
matt riggs
God damn it.
dan friesen
Just find a way to make that funny.
matt riggs
Oh, man.
I'll see you later.
dan friesen
Alright, here's the next part of the rant.
alex jones
You're going to look back on these days as happy days.
Halcyon Azure skies.
You're going to look back on this time.
Screwing around, playing your video games, not fulfilling your destiny, not feeling fulfilled.
You're going to look back and you're going to beg on your knees to God.
That you never would have done the things you did, those of you that serve this, but you're going to realize you don't do redemption in the end because you went too far and you spit in the face of life and you spit in the face of everything good and you're going to turn and go the direction you meant you were destined to go because it's what you chose and that is spiritual,
cultural, genetic, Oblivion.
And that's the force of oblivion.
Willing itself to death, willing itself to suicide, broadcasting, screeching, howling, tornado-level freight train.
That's why you go out to these anti-Trump rallies.
It's not that Trump's perfect, but they sense there's life force.
They sense there's someone that doesn't want to destroy everything there.
They sense there's prosperity.
They sense there's something of strength.
An idea of majesty.
Of human majesty.
Made in the image of God.
That's majesty.
dan friesen
That's wild stuff.
matt riggs
That's very wild stuff.
Because it's such a fucked up thing.
Because forever...
Since the United States has existed, we've had multiple political parties.
And people have agreed and they've disagreed.
And that's going to happen forever.
But now it's being twisted into these ways that it's more than just political problems.
dan friesen
Oh, totally.
matt riggs
It's just, now it's life.
Now it's...
God, now it's all this stuff.
And people that listen to this, I accepted Jesus into my heart because I thought my parents were going to be ripped away from me in the night.
I stayed up late at night being like, God's going to rapture my family and I'm going to have no food because I'm going to have to get my head cut off with a guillotine because I saw some movie when I was 13. Kirk Cameron?
No, it was called At the Door or something.
Real shitty.
But if you're...
People are making kids listen to this, or that sort of stuff is happening.
They're normal.
This is just what they're going to believe.
God, that makes me feel so horrible.
dan friesen
I think it's profoundly abusive, the idea of letting a kid listen to something like this.
matt riggs
I'm laughing at it because it's so ridiculous to me, but I'm also 37. I know how ridiculous it is.
There's people out there that obviously don't, and they're teaching...
Oh, goddammit.
I didn't think I was going to be sad at the end of this, and I'm sad near the beginning.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I think you bring up a good point, though, that is important, and that is that the idea that political arguments have happened for hundreds of years, and it's been rarely, I mean, sometimes it would lead to a duel or something like that.
matt riggs
A duel, an assassination, a civil war, even.
This was probably the worst, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, I'd say so, at least in our country's history.
But, yeah.
Alex's conception of the world is that there are globalists who want to create a one-world government that will bring about the Antichrist.
And these globalists are suspiciously always the Democrats, but also the Republicans he doesn't like.
Who aren't libertarians are working for the globalists also.
matt riggs
So this was even before Trump?
Oh, yeah.
Okay, he was Republican before that.
dan friesen
Well, he was a weird libertarian-style conservative.
He wouldn't have called himself a Republican.
And to his credit, he hated George Bush.
George W. Bush, as it were.
I think he hated H.W. too.
But he was very, very critical of George W. Bush.
And, you know, that...
Sort of gives him the appearance of impartiality, but the reality is he just decided that George W. Bush worked for the globalists, and so fuck them.
And the thing that makes it impossible to have a real argument politically in that framework is that if you're arguing against Alex Jones' worldview, then you are by default arguing in favor of the globalists who want to create a one-world government and bring about the Antichrist, who may or may not be Barack Hussein Obama.
matt riggs
What's he going to do?
dan friesen
I don't know.
matt riggs
Is he coming back?
dan friesen
Well, Larry Nichols, this guy who's on Alex's show a bunch, in the lead-up to the election was saying that what they were going to do...
Okay, so Obama was going to screw over Hillary Clinton.
And so Obama leaked all the stuff about the servers in order to destroy her as a candidate so that Joe Biden could win.
And then I think what he was saying is that Obama would become the Secretary General of the UN and turn the U.S. into a Muslim caliphate so Obama could be the president of Muslims worldwide.
matt riggs
That makes sense.
The country that's in no way really that Muslim, we're just going to get the press?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So that's the fear that they have about it.
Me saying these things sound like nonsense, but these ding-dongs believe this stuff.
And they preach it to however millions of people listen.
matt riggs
Can we just let everyone listen?
I know you're probably...
Preaching to the choir with the people that listen to this, I guess.
I don't know.
I don't know what your listener base is.
dan friesen
They're great.
matt riggs
What I mean is I don't know how many people might actually like Alex Jones and believe what he says or how many people are just like, this guy is fucking crazy.
dan friesen
I think the Venn diagram of people who like us and people who like Alex Jones are two circles.
I don't think there's a lot of crossover.
matt riggs
I almost want a t-shirt that says Obama can't be president again.
Like, he's just gonna be a dude that just comes around every once in a while.
That's all he is.
dan friesen
No, he's gonna be a shadow president.
Because Alex Jones believes that he's set up a command bunker a block away from the White House, and him and George Soros are creating shock troops in order to take down President Trump, the greatest Americana president of all time.
matt riggs
Is it drug-based?
dan friesen
He's George Washington 2.0.
matt riggs
Oh, has that been said?
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
matt riggs
Oh, my God.
A bunch.
I don't think George Washington would want to say that political rhetoric that Trump has said.
dan friesen
I don't think he would.
matt riggs
But, yeah, I don't...
How high do you have to be?
Like, where does this all come from?
Is it meth-based?
Like, what fuels this?
dan friesen
I think it's one part brain damage.
We've documented a couple incidents from his past that would cause massive brain damage if he's telling the truth about them.
A couple of traumatic instances where people were bashing his head into concrete when he was a child.
matt riggs
Sounds horrible, but...
You kind of go for the other side on that.
dan friesen
Not as a child.
matt riggs
He was an innocent child.
dan friesen
But then also he got stuck under a house inhaling fumes.
matt riggs
An innocent child.
Everyone would go back in time and kill baby Hitler.
dan friesen
We don't need to unpack that here.
matt riggs
But would baby Hitler come in the future in time and kill you?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I guess he would think that I'm a Jewish sympathizer.
matt riggs
Or he's just a baby.
dan friesen
And I'm a cross-eyed dude, so I'm not perfect.
You know, I'm not part of the master race.
matt riggs
Unlike me.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex Jones is full of some nonsense, but we're not nearly done with this rant yet.
He's got to get even more religious as this thing goes along.
matt riggs
I feel like I'm a clip show for you.
Like, I'm the person, I'm the primer.
Like, people, if they've just started, like, I'm the voice of the guy that knows nothing.
So I'm asking all the same questions.
dan friesen
I appreciate it.
It's fun to try and explain in, like, short sentences what the fuck is going on.
I enjoy that.
So please feel free to let your questions fly.
unidentified
Cool.
alex jones
And there's just a...
Hell's right there, and the gate's starting to lift.
And people sense it, and there's a few reprieves, and a few nationalist movements, and Christian movements, and populist movements, and just look what they're doing to the children.
Look, look.
Look how they're preparing the radical Islam for us.
Look at the cashless society.
Look at everything.
Look at what they're doing.
Look at the cancer rates.
And so as the enemy comes in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord lifts up a standard against it.
But then the hordes of the earth cry out and say, No!
We don't want a reprieve.
We want Barabbas!
We don't want Jonah.
dan friesen
What?
alex jones
We don't want Christ.
matt riggs
Okay, that would make sense.
alex jones
We don't want Moses.
matt riggs
Okay.
alex jones
We don't want any of it.
We want the devil!
matt riggs
Zacchaeus?
You want Zacchaeus?
unidentified
Now give us the devil!
alex jones
Because we're jealous and existentially angry at the goodness and the beauty.
Because once they get you to be selfish, once they get you to be immature, once they get you to feel like you're ugly and stunted and to embrace it, embrace your evil side, then you see the strength and the honor and the will as twisted and as fallen.
dan friesen
So that's his explanation for why anyone dislikes Trump and his followers.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
Because they have been tricked by the globalists into being selfish and immature, and they see honorable people.
As being fallen and...
matt riggs
I know a lot of people that did not vote for Donald Trump, and I'm going to say 93% of them would be totally cool with a guy who got swallowed by a whale and still lived afterwards.
We all wanted Jonah.
dan friesen
Yeah, Jonah's cool.
matt riggs
Yeah, Jonah's alright.
What's wrong with Jonah?
dan friesen
I think he was pulling for names, and that was an accident.
I think he fucked up.
I have to assume that he threw Moses in there, too, as just cover.
matt riggs
Moses is kind of like the Jesus of the Old Testament, right?
Daniel?
David?
dan friesen
I mean, there's a couple of sort of Jesus-y figures.
But yeah, Moses leads his people out of the desert, out of Egypt.
So, I mean, yeah, there's a good amount of them.
matt riggs
Yeah, Jonah is the one that does not fit in.
Two of these things belong together.
One of them does not.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
We've documented a good amount of him really misunderstanding scripture over the course of this.
He frequently cites the prodigal son story.
And gets the incredibly wrong message from it.
matt riggs
He's like, get out of here, go away for a long time.
dan friesen
Not that wrong.
matt riggs
No?
dan friesen
But his version of it is...
The takeaway is that the dad really loves the older son who doesn't leave.
matt riggs
Oh, no.
That's not the takeaway at all.
dan friesen
No, the takeaway is you're welcome back.
We forgive.
Yeah, but his thing is like, no, think about how much I love you if I'm doing this for him.
matt riggs
Sure.
dan friesen
He's an asshole.
matt riggs
See, I think you and I are both prodigal sons.
dan friesen
Somewhat.
matt riggs
Yeah, and no, it's the best of both worlds.
We don't have to be around our family, and they like it when we're around.
dan friesen
I'm the prodigal son who's barely come back.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this rant closes...
matt riggs
I like my family.
dan friesen
I do too.
I like them.
They're fine.
This is where the rant wraps up.
This is him.
He sees one minute to break and he realizes, I gotta wrap this baby up.
So he pulls it in and he says a couple things at the end that I think are supremely disturbing.
Funny, but disturbing.
alex jones
And then you wage war against it because the two cannot coexist.
The globalists tell us coexist with them.
They're not going to coexist with us.
They're not going to let you have anything.
They're going to suck your intellect out, use you, defame you, defile you, desecrate you, vandalize you before they...
Tear you into a thousand pieces.
And the monster tearing you to pieces is already halfway down the throat of the next big monster behind him.
And the next.
And there at the end of the line is that old serpent Satan.
Right there at the switch, shoving his own legs right into the meat grinder.
Well, I'm not going down that chute with him.
But I'll tell you one thing.
I've seen enough of the devil.
And I'm kind of like the devil.
I've been there.
dan friesen
I've seen it.
alex jones
Every night when I go to sleep.
Every night.
Every night I get to get my little visits.
And it ain't a visit from old Saint Nick.
The devil's real and he wants to kill you.
unidentified
And he's visiting you every moment as well.
dan friesen
I think we could probably do an hour on that.
unidentified
Yeah.
matt riggs
Why would Santa come every night?
He comes once a year, first of all.
dan friesen
Everyone knows that.
matt riggs
Yeah, we all know that.
dan friesen
Also, Santa does not really have an agenda.
matt riggs
No.
dan friesen
No.
matt riggs
Santa's never going to push you down a meat chute.
dan friesen
No, he's not like the Krampus.
matt riggs
No.
dan friesen
If I had to make a power ranking of the things that I find most disturbing about the last ten seconds of that clip, I would say number one is him being like, I've seen enough of the devil.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I'm like the devil.
What the fuck does that mean, number one?
matt riggs
I don't know.
dan friesen
Number two, him being like, I see him every night.
In my dreams.
You're dreaming of the devil every night?
That's fucked up.
I know it's probably exaggeration and embellishment, but still, what the fuck are you expressing?
matt riggs
I think what's happening is he's probably trying to stop smoking, so he put the patch on, and you're not supposed to wear that to sleep.
It fucks up your dreams.
dan friesen
That could be.
Although, he has talked about his relationship with smoking.
He smoked as a child.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
Smoked as a younger man, hence probably a lot of that gravelly voice.
matt riggs
Of course.
dan friesen
But no longer.
I don't think he is a tobacco man at this point.
You know what?
You say tobacco patches.
I say super male vitality.
I say all his products are probably what's creating negative dreams.
He has a pill called Knockout that might be doing it.
Side effects.
Talking to the devil every night.
matt riggs
Every night?
At least you have a nightly thing.
dan friesen
Sure.
Some people would call that a spirit guide.
matt riggs
Yeah, I don't know enough about his store.
I saw that John Oliver thing where they ordered all of it or whatever.
dan friesen
And they just did a thing on BuzzFeed.
Where they bought a bunch of his products and sent them to a lab to analyze them.
And they found that they...
I mean, the basic conclusion they had was that they have what they say on the label in it.
And they don't have any heavy metals or anything like that.
So he thinks that that is like, I've been cleared.
They tried to do a hatchet piece on me.
But also in the breakdown that they have, it's like, there's no science that shows that this does anything.
So it's all just basically placebo shit.
matt riggs
It's airborne.
dan friesen
Yeah.
matt riggs
Yeah, sure.
dan friesen
I mean, but at least Airborne's a ton of vitamin C. Yeah.
So there's that.
matt riggs
I mean, do these things have vitamins in them and that sort of thing?
dan friesen
I mean, yeah, there's what Secret 12 is just vitamin B12.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
Great.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
It's not a secret.
There's a vitamin D thing, but I mean, it's just more expensive.
Yeah.
The one that he really sells, and he's like, it's life-changing, is his colloidal iodine.
Supplement.
And they're just like, this is just normal iodine.
We ran it through the lab.
This is not special at all.
This is iodine.
So, I mean, there's that.
But I think that...
matt riggs
I'm happy it's not poisoning people.
dan friesen
No, that's true.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's true.
matt riggs
Yeah.
I mean, if I were to make a t-shirt, I'd probably mark up the price a little bit to give me some money.
Of course!
So, I guess why not mark up the price of unneeded medicine?
dan friesen
Well, the issue is that you're not going around telling people that the globalists don't want you to have shirts.
And that, you know, they're trying to kill you and this shirt will save your life.
matt riggs
It's not a bad idea, though, for marketing.
dan friesen
It's probably a good way to sell shirts.
matt riggs
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex Jones talks to the devil every night, and that is the end of the rant.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's how the show starts.
Like, that's the first 10, 15 minutes of the show.
matt riggs
And he's on for how long at night?
dan friesen
Four hours.
matt riggs
He's on for four hours?
dan friesen
Three of the four, he's on.
Fourth hour today is Roger Stone.
He does the fourth hour.
matt riggs
I heard something about him today.
dan friesen
What did you hear?
matt riggs
I heard that Paul Manafort, apparently, they put a thing out in the...
What's that tabloid that Trump is...
dan friesen
The Inquirer?
matt riggs
Inquirer.
They put out a thing about how he's cheating on his wife.
dan friesen
And his country.
matt riggs
Yeah, but all the details and stuff sound very similar to things Roger Stone has written in the past.
dan friesen
Oh, is that right?
matt riggs
That's what I heard.
dan friesen
Well, Roger Stone's response to it was, hey, why are they...
He had a whole response that indicated that he knew that it came from Trump.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that is super fucked up.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
The idea that it's just like, oh, it's common knowledge that Trump plants stories in there.
matt riggs
Sure.
dan friesen
That's not good at all.
matt riggs
Well, it's not good, but at the same time, it's the type of thing where it's like, if they're attacking this dude, that means they think he's gonna flip on them.
dan friesen
Well, there's that, and they know he knows shit.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's...
That's troubling.
matt riggs
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Also troubling, we got a ways to go to get through this show, but Alex Jones has some fun guests on this episode that I'm going to get you ready for.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
We got Roger Stone.
He's going to show up for a little bit.
matt riggs
Piece of shit.
dan friesen
We have Steve Pachenik, who we aren't going to really deal with.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
He is a former CIA psychiatrist.
He ghost-wrote books with Tom Clancy, apparently.
Oh.
He spins a bunch of nuts.
matt riggs
That's for sure.
He actually did that?
dan friesen
I believe he did.
matt riggs
He's like their doctor that says he's with MIT and didn't.
dan friesen
I think he's legit.
I've never looked into the Tom Clancy stuff, but he is actually a psychiatrist and everything.
Or psychologist.
But the other guest that he should be most excited for is the podfather himself, Adam Curry.
matt riggs
Oh boy!
dan friesen
The creator of podcasts.
matt riggs
The former MTV DJ?
dan friesen
Yeah.
matt riggs
Why?
dan friesen
Adam Curry comes in, and I got bad news.
You're not going to like Adam Curry when this is over.
matt riggs
I used to use his website, Mevio, to host my podcast.
dan friesen
Honestly, I think we got to quit podcasting based on how much I don't like Adam Curry now.
matt riggs
I thought at first you were going to say Adam Carolla, which almost would make sense.
unidentified
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Adam Carolla is sincerely...
Two steps away from being on Infowars.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He'll show up soon enough.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Him going around and be like, college campuses are too pussy.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
He was on O 'Reilly's fucking broadcast the other day.
matt riggs
O 'Reilly?
dan friesen
Eh, that's fine.
Who cares?
God bless you.
Sell those books.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But, uh, so, after that rant...
Got to dive into the meat.
Got to go into the actual news of the day.
And Alex Jones is going to start by trying to really shine up that shit that is the Paul Manafort situation.
matt riggs
Oh, brother.
dan friesen
Now, before we get into it, it's important for me to point out to you that Alex Jones' closest associate on InfoWars is Roger Stone.
Roger Stone is on almost every day.
He hosts the fourth hour like once a week.
He's apparently getting his own show on InfoWars.
matt riggs
He's got great teeth.
dan friesen
I don't give a shit.
He also has a tattoo of Nixon's face on his back.
matt riggs
Well, no, that's ridiculous.
I've seen him in documentaries.
He's like, yeah, he's got good teeth.
dan friesen
Fuck him.
matt riggs
Good caps.
dan friesen
Fuck him.
But the reason I needed to bring that up is because Roger Stone is also a close associate to Paul Manafort.
matt riggs
Yeah, and Trump and all this.
dan friesen
Well, but specifically Manafort.
They used to own a business together.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
They used to have a consulting firm together.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the idea...
matt riggs
Wait, the one that went to Ukraine and all that?
dan friesen
No, it was pre-that.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
But Alex Jones, the idea that he doesn't know...
Until the news breaks publicly that they raided Paul Manafort's house means to me that Roger Stone didn't know.
Or Roger did know and didn't tell Alex.
And either of those possibilities is pretty fucked up in terms of spheres of information.
But Alex Jones is a soldier, and he does his best to try and spin this in a positive light.
matt riggs
Do you think there's a way, and I know you were building up to that.
I apologize.
unidentified
Oh, that's fine.
matt riggs
I feel like the DJ, like, you were just about to start Bohemian Rhapsody, and I started talking right as Freddie started singing.
Do you think there's a chance that Jones could ever flip on Trump?
We could ever just go against him?
dan friesen
We've tried to war games this a couple times, and I think he's in too deep now.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
But there's got to be a way.
I think he could figure it out.
It would just require a perceived betrayal.
matt riggs
Just him awkwardly eating crow for like two days and then turning on him, you think?
dan friesen
I think it would take more than two days.
He's done so much dick sucking.
He's been his biggest cheerleader for over a year and a half.
So I think if he was going to flip, it would take...
He'd need to decide what it is he was going to flip about, start to build it up, prepare his audience for it, and then execute it over the course of like a week.
Maybe two weeks even.
It would be big.
I don't think he can do it now.
I think he's in trouble.
I think he's in trouble.
But be that as it may, here is how he wants to spin the Manafort FBI raids.
alex jones
No, ladies and gentlemen, we get to hear that Paul Manafort...
unidentified
That's right.
alex jones
He got raided about two weeks ago on July 26th.
Isn't that just cute?
FBI conducted pre-dawn raid of former Trump campaign chairman Manafort's home.
FBI agents raided the Alexandria home of President Trump's former campaign chairman late last month, using a search warrant to seize documents and other materials, according to people familiar with the special counsel investigation into Russia meddling in the 2016 election.
From what I heard, he had agreed to send him all the documents.
But none of it was Russian meddling.
It was when he worked for the Ukrainian government in a pro-U.S.
capacity.
dan friesen
So that's the first part of spin there.
And I'd like to read to you from the New York Times here.
Paul Manafort, who was forced out as President Trump's campaign chairman last summer after five months of infighting and criticism about his business dealings with pro-Russian interests, disclosed Tuesday that his consulting firm had received more than $17 million over two years from a Ukrainian political party with links to the Kremlin.
The filing serves as a retroactive admission that Mr. Manafort performed work in the United States on behalf of a foreign power, Ukraine's party of regions, without disclosing it at the time, as is required by law.
The Party of Regions is the political base of former President Viktor F. Yanukovych, who fled to Russia during a popular uprising in 2014.
This is not pro-US interests.
matt riggs
Sure, of course.
dan friesen
This is very much Russian interests in Ukraine.
And the reason that he had to flee was because, you know, the Ukraine got really pissed off at Russian intervention.
In their business.
And that's why Paul Manafort can't go to Ukraine now.
He will be killed.
So, that's bullshit.
That's a load of bullshit.
Also, the idea that he's like, oh yeah, I heard he was going to turn over everything.
That's why they raided him.
unidentified
Of course.
matt riggs
Because he didn't.
dan friesen
Because he lied.
matt riggs
They went to a judge.
The judge had to be like, you have probable cause to do this.
Like, there's a whole thing.
This is how cases work.
unidentified
Yeah.
matt riggs
This is what they do.
dan friesen
Right, but if you're in Alex Jones' head, you're like, nah, the globalists are just pulling strings.
This is all for show.
matt riggs
I mean, I could see some people being like, even though it's fucking dumb as shit, like, they're upset.
That their candidate didn't win, so they're coming after him.
It's a witch hunt.
I can honestly see some people thinking that might be a possibility.
But it's the 18,000 meetings they had with Russians that they don't disclose.
And it's all this other stuff that just keeps happening where you're like, well, maybe there's some probable cause that they need to look into this.
dan friesen
Well, see, here's why you're dumb.
Because you're being duped by the globalists.
They're planting these fake stories about lies, about Russian meetings and what have you.
And then what they're doing is they're moving the field goal.
They're moving the posts.
Like, oh no, it's over here now.
It's over here now.
Which Alex is going to describe in this next clip.
It's not about Russia.
It's never been about Russia.
And now all these globalists are showing their cards.
Here, check this out.
alex jones
Manafort, yeah, there it is, the New York Times, had been voluntarily producing documents from congressional committees investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election.
Let's see, they didn't find what they needed to.
So now they've moved on to just, like they said back in mid-July, oh, we're not just looking at Russia now, we're looking at checks.
We're looking at deposits.
We're looking at taxes.
We're looking to see if anybody in the Trump entourage didn't pay all their taxes.
Oh, a giant, across the board, bigger than anything Nixon ever dreamed of.
dan friesen
So he's just going to explain that it's now a tax dragnet.
Yeah, that's not true at all.
No.
The idea of looking at finances is important because you can see where there is foreign money coming into places.
matt riggs
How about a whole bunch of Russians buying apartments in Trump Tower?
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a hundred different things.
matt riggs
How about buying a giant house for like eight times what it's worth in Florida?
dan friesen
Yeah, that's why you've got to go and look at all this money and stuff.
It's not a tax dragnet.
But Alex knows there's audiences dumb enough to be like, yeah, it makes sense.
They are just, you know, cheating, moving the field goals.
It's not about Russia!
This is about Russia.
matt riggs
Very much so.
dan friesen
Even though the country is Ukraine that paid $17 million to Manafort, that's still very deeply connected to Russia.
So, Roger Stone comes on, and Alex jumps into some fairly paranoid rambling, which is not uncommon for him.
In this next clip, I don't know what this clip is.
matt riggs
All right.
dan friesen
Let me be clear.
I don't know what this clip is.
matt riggs
Very excited to hear it.
dan friesen
But Alex in this talks about how he is in a death battle, basically.
And I don't believe him.
alex jones
I mean, I have to threaten Google publicly and privately with lawsuits.
They have to get letters from me now just to back off and not ban us.
You go, oh, we'll just go to another platform.
They're going to go to everybody's platform next.
We've got to hold them and fight them on their territory.
Ever heard that before?
We've got to fight them over there instead of over here.
We've got to fight them at Google, fight them at YouTube, they're a creature, fight them on Facebook, fight them on Twitter, fight them on Dig, fight them on Reddit, fight them, fight them, fight them, fight them, fight them!
Yes, we're dug in here with our own systems and trying to build them and expand them and trying to get out every way we can, but for every tentacle I grow, they cut one off.
I'm trying to shoot out as many spores as I can, as many heads.
They're hacking my heads off.
I'm growing them faster and faster.
Hack one off.
Two more pop out.
Hack those off.
Six more.
They hacked those.
I mean, and I'm not complaining, but I mean, we're in a fight here.
I got like two battle axes fighting them.
They're hacking at me.
We're not even thinking about who's winning.
That's when you know you're in a fight.
You ain't thinking about winning.
You're thinking about surviving.
unidentified
You're thinking about surviving.
alex jones
That's where we are.
Okay.
dan friesen
Okay, that's where we are.
matt riggs
Weirdly enough, this is the first thing that he's been talking about.
It just developed into nonsense after a while.
But I don't mind that he's fighting for his freedom of speech on these sites.
dan friesen
Well, no, I agree with you, if that were what's happening.
That's not what's happening.
He got kicked off of Google Ads because he has implied incredibly close connection with a president.
Oh, sure.
And that is against Google Ads' terms of service.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
So they refused to put him in their advertising.
Secondarily, he claims that Google is trying to delist him and make it so you can't search for InfoWars links based on something that Mike Cernovich found.
He was saying that these subcontractors were hired by Google to mark InfoWars articles as, like, bad.
And, like, mark every Infowars thing as bad so you can't cheat the algorithm.
But if you actually get into it and look into the case, what happened was this manual was created in terms of, like, it's very complicated how Google search works.
They have thousands of people who perform searches and then judge how accurate the things that come up are.
matt riggs
Because people are always trying to fuck the system.
They're always trying to mess with it.
dan friesen
And so they need thousands and thousands of people constantly searching for things.
And in their manual, they used InfoWars as an example of an unreliable source.
Because consistently, things that they say are proven to not be true, and all this.
And so they used it as an example of something that would be deemed a low-quality result.
And Google was like, well, that was made by a company that we hired, and we agree that's not incredibly fair.
They used that as an example, and so they corrected it.
And we're not trying to delist anybody.
It is true that you're constantly proven wrong.
They didn't say that.
That's my editorializing.
He's not fighting for free speech.
If he was, I would be on his side in as much as that.
If people were legitimately trying to crack down on him, then we'd have an argument.
But instead, it's just people don't want to be involved with him, and...
And he keeps breaking terms of service of stuff.
matt riggs
Well, yeah, that's a problem.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's not free speech.
Anyway.
matt riggs
Yeah.
I would think all that music he's got on there, I don't know how they put that up on YouTube.
dan friesen
You would think that, like, if he really had an issue, that would be the first thing to go.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, if someone really wanted to crack down, I'm like, alright, stop using this music.
matt riggs
Now, do you just...
dan friesen
Good luck just coming in every break with Ted Nugent.
matt riggs
Yeah, yeah, right?
Do you...
Did you have to join his organization to get access to all these clips?
dan friesen
No.
matt riggs
Okay, it's all just online.
Oh, I didn't know.
dan friesen
I wouldn't pay for this shit.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
The day I have to pay for this, this show is over.
matt riggs
Freezing Point is back!
dan friesen
I'm not giving him any money, ever.
So, you know, if you want to know why I would never give him money, it was because I believe him to be a bigot.
I believe him to be a very problematic racist man.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this next clip is a rollercoaster of racism.
alex jones
You've got to understand all this race baiting coming down against you, if you're Hispanic or white or whatever it is, is real in the person's mind doing it, but is a mirage.
But still, nevertheless, real.
If you're a white guy, because it happens 12 to 1, 15 to 1, most of the cases turn out to be false flags when it is whites reportedly attacking black people.
It's just a fact.
Black folks, a certain percentage of them, a small minority percentage, but still, it's a high number when they attack.
Are just tracking down whites and shooting them, killing them, beating them, attacking them?
If they have blonde hair and blue eyes, they just attack them and say, you voted for Trump.
The videos are legion.
That's mind control.
That's CNN and the globalist desperate rearguard action.
It's in the WikiLeaks using cultural warfare to distract from what they're doing, screwing us all over.
The litmus test.
You see any Hispanic groups telling people don't take the Gardasil shot?
matt riggs
What?
alex jones
No.
matt riggs
What's the Gardasil?
alex jones
See, if I didn't like Hispanics, I'd be saying take your shots.
dan friesen
We'll get back to this in a second, but the Gardasil shot is a genital warts shot that can be given to young women because genital warts are one of the HPV.
matt riggs
HPV, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's one of the biggest causes of cervical cancer.
And if you don't...
If you're not able to get HPV, odds are you won't get cervical cancer, and that kills so many women throughout the world.
And Alex Jones has this belief that if in a vaccine it says something is a potential side effect, then that's actually why they're giving it to you.
So whenever he talks about how autism or diabetes...
Are like, they're giving it to you in the vaccine.
He pulls up the inserts of the vaccine.
It's like, it's right there!
It's like, well, it's a potential side of...
Human's biology is incredibly complicated.
There are bad side effects that people can have to any medication.
And he doesn't accept that.
He thinks that they're tainting all the vaccines.
So he believes that they're giving all these Hispanic women Gardasil shots in the third world in order to decrease their birth rates.
And what have you, because it leads to massive fertility problems.
And if he was really racist, he would be like, give them all the shot.
Instead of looking at it like, well, there are unfortunate side effects that are going to happen to a certain amount of people, but compared to the amount of death that's caused by cervical cancer, people deem it a net positive.
matt riggs
So him saying that, like...
He would talk about that more is like the same version of like, oh, I have a black friend.
Basically.
dan friesen
Yes, yes, yes.
And also the idea that white people attacking black people as false flags is silly.
The idea that you see this talking point come up from time to time, that it's 15 to 1 in terms of black people attacking white people.
And what is never really unpacked, especially by Alex, is the idea of reporting of crimes, police believing the crimes, people just washing things away, like, I'm not going to deal with this.
There's a systemic racism inside police departments, and crimes against black people are often not reported.
And Alex has even admitted that he's aware of it.
But he's like, eh, it's not that big a deal.
So, anyway.
Like I said, this is a rollercoaster.
He's been real white identity, white nationalist-y up to this point.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And now let's see how this clip ends.
alex jones
Because it's known to massively reduce fertility.
dan friesen
That's Gardasil.
alex jones
And then some people go, well, if the whole world's going to be Hispanic here in the United States and they're turning them into racist, good, kill them.
unidentified
They're killing everybody, idiots!
alex jones
They're coming after everybody.
We have to realize it.
It doesn't mean we don't expose the hypocrisy and all the garbage, but it doesn't mean we're under its control.
Briefly.
Skip breaks.
Don't even plug.
Other hosts, every minute, just support us.
We need financial support.
We've got great fluoride-free toothpaste.
The kids' version is back in bubblegum flavor.
We've got great water filtration, great air purifiers, 25% off.
dan friesen
Black people are trying to kill white people.
Just immediately from that weird race rant into buy my children's toothpaste.
matt riggs
It's bubblegum flavor.
dan friesen
It's got the colloidal silver in there.
We've got toothbrushes that are impregnated with silver.
matt riggs
Yeah.
Wow.
dan friesen
They don't kill you if you're a werewolf.
So ridiculous.
matt riggs
That's so nuts.
My God.
dan friesen
It's a pretty, like we were saying though, in terms of his skills, it's pretty impressive to be able to make that kind of a pivot.
To go from weird race conspiracies into give us money.
matt riggs
Was that whole thing part of the Paul Manafort thing?
Or did it take a little...
dan friesen
No, we've gone off into...
matt riggs
Okay, I just wanted to make sure.
dan friesen
He's done with his coverage of the Manafort stuff for now.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
And now we're just jumping around to weird shit, he says.
matt riggs
Very good.
dan friesen
Because we've got the narratives in place.
Manafort thing is just a big tax dragnet.
It's all trying to cover up for probably the crimes of Hillary Clinton.
matt riggs
I just didn't know if there was any Roger Stone-related stuff with that.
dan friesen
No, that's just Alex.
He gets sidetracked real easily.
He doesn't really ever cover news in any in-depth way.
matt riggs
That's like my podcast.
dan friesen
He just kind of rambled.
Well, if it was you alone, and you were a bigot, and...
matt riggs
If?
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
matt riggs
Oh, no.
dan friesen
So, this next clip, Alex has finally heard the audio of what Trump said to North Korea from his vacation.
His quote about fire and fury.
matt riggs
Yeah, like the world's never seen before.
dan friesen
And Alex is pretty into it.
He's pretty pumped.
matt riggs
Why am I surprised?
I'm legitimately bothered by it, but I'm like, why?
Of course it's going to be the exact opposite of what I think.
dan friesen
Do you want to hear his immediate reaction?
matt riggs
Wait, are you more bothered when he says something that you do agree with?
dan friesen
No, I'm thrilled.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
Because there have been a couple times, like, the big ones were a long ways back.
He went on a rant about how marijuana should be legalized.
I totally agree with that.
I'm pumped that he's on that.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
And then also he's super against police being able to commit civil asset forfeiture.
So whenever you're, like, rolling around with a bunch of money and they just come and take it, like, prove that's your money.
That sort of thing.
Yeah, I'm super against that, too.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So, eminent domain issues, stuff like that, he's on the right side of it.
matt riggs
Even though Trump is on the wrong side?
dan friesen
Yeah, totally.
He doesn't square that up at all.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I'm not worried when we agree.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I would be worried if I agreed with him about vaccines.
Sure.
Because even if you're crazy, there's some things you believe that aren't crazy.
Yeah, okay.
Anyway, here's Alex doing a little bit of nice analysis of Trump's comments.
donald j trump
And as I said, they will be met with fire, fury, and frankly, power, the likes of which this world has never seen before.
alex jones
Well, Trump looks pretty, I'll say it, pretty evil right there.
Looks pretty scary, doesn't he?
That's the real Donald Trump right there.
I'm not saying evil in a bad way.
He looks scary.
matt riggs
No, I think it in a bad way.
dan friesen
I'm fascinated by that slip.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
He looks evil.
That's the real Donald Trump.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
matt riggs
Oh, but not evil in a bad way.
dan friesen
That's like, that's your main propagandist sort of losing it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just like slipping.
Like, oh, oop, the mask came off.
I mean, hey, look, I mean terrible in a great way.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
matt riggs
Like the word bad used to be bad, but now it's good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he goes on to talk a little bit more about North Korea and what's probably going to have to be done with them, and this is awful.
alex jones
I'm not saying I think this is going to happen.
I have four children.
I don't want war with North Korea.
But if he preemptively fires weapons and attacks somebody, he has to be decapitated quickly.
And Russia and China have to be told in no uncertain terms, do not...
Get involved in this when we do this.
And they've been signaling they're going to stand down, but don't want it to happen.
I don't want it to happen either.
But if we go to war, it's got to be regime change, and it's got to be devastating, and ladies and gentlemen, we can't conventionally take on North Korea.
They've got a million-plus-man brainwashed army.
I'd say it's 20 times worse than Iraq.
Cult-like following.
They will attack 100,000 pieces of artillery.
Katusha rockets, the whole nine yards, you're going to have to hit them with nuclear weapons.
And I've talked to a bunch of experts, they agree.
You're going to have to hit the entire DMZ with not just conventional, but high-powered atomic weapons.
Hydrogen bombs, you name it.
They can roll out the radiation weapons, directed energy weapons.
They've got high-powered ones that will kill whole cities.
And I'm sad for the slaves in North Korea, but if that's what's going to happen, we're still at war with North Korea.
So coming up at the bottom of the hour, I'm going to walk through all of this, the latest.
Now's the time to be praying.
dan friesen
Would you be surprised to hear that he does not go over all of it at the top of the hour?
No, he does not.
That's a bummer.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
That sort of clip is not great.
matt riggs
No.
I mean, I was having a similar...
No, not similar.
But I was having a conversation with my friend Joe about how I feel like either somewhere in Japan or South Korea is going to get hit.
Gonna happen.
dan friesen
No, I don't think so.
matt riggs
You don't think so?
dan friesen
No.
matt riggs
You think it's all just a petulant child?
dan friesen
I hate to be a naysayer just in case something really bad does happen, but I don't...
matt riggs
Well, I'm calling it so I can rub it in your face that all those people died.
dan friesen
I don't believe that that is in North Korea's strategic interests.
What is in their interest is to have a nuclear weapon so they have protection, basically.
So they can't be fucked with.
And I don't think that using it is in any way helpful.
Like, I don't think even under the threat of their own destruction.
Because, I mean, like, they teach the population that the United States wants to destroy them.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I don't think that Kim Jong-un actually thinks that.
I don't think that the higher-ups actually think that.
They think that people would, if they could, take them out.
But they know that...
They can't.
They know that the rest of the world understands that there's way too many ramifications if they were to attack.
Because Seoul is such an easy target from beyond the DMZ.
North Korea could hit them So easily, and that's millions of deaths.
matt riggs
The other day I had to go to the DMZ, and it's like, my God, can they not get a few more workers here?
It's like, I'm just trying to get a license.
dan friesen
I like this bit, but I've had nothing but wonderful experiences with the Chicago DMZ.
matt riggs
Actually, they're all great.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're fantastic.
matt riggs
Except for the one down in South Holland.
But, yeah, I want to agree.
I hope more than anything that that's the case.
I don't want a town to die.
But, if we were to go to war...
There is one positive.
dan friesen
What's that?
matt riggs
We could have a new series of MASH.
dan friesen
That's true.
matt riggs
Yeah, think about that.
dan friesen
That's not worth it.
matt riggs
It's one of the best shows ever.
dan friesen
I don't know about that.
matt riggs
People love it.
dan friesen
People do.
I would say that short of us attacking them, I don't think this is going to launch off.
matt riggs
But don't you look at a president who's 38% approval rating and nothing else is going down?
Hey, wait, what's a way to get popular?
Oh, war.
dan friesen
I think even he has to know that...
That's the wrong way to do that.
Unless we've run out of non-nuclear countries to invade.
If that's the case, then we're in big trouble.
matt riggs
So you think he's more apt to go out to Iran than he is?
dan friesen
Well, that's why he's flexing on Iran now, saying that they're not in line with the agreement.
And that's bullshit.
He was saying already, like a week ago, even if they're found to be in compliance, I think they're not.
Which is bad faith.
That's terrible.
That's not a way to...
Dude!
Here's the fucking thing about this Iran agreement.
If Trump now invalidates the agreement or tries to pull out of it, the only people that really win are Iran.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because they got all their money back and now they can make nukes.
matt riggs
Yeah, it makes no sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The only strategic positive thing for us to do is stay in it and stay in it and try and work with them.
matt riggs
Yeah, but a black guy made it.
dan friesen
Right.
matt riggs
I always forget about that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I always forget about that.
matt riggs
Like, oh wait, did a black guy make this?
Alright, nope.
We gotta get rid of it.
Like, that seems to be what their job is, is to try to get rid of everything that happened over the last eight years.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I mean, at least people in Congress have literally said that that's what they wanted to do the day Barack Obama got in.
matt riggs
But it proved that they don't because they can't vote for it.
Even though they said for seven years they're gonna vote for it.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
matt riggs
I called that shit two years ago.
dan friesen
Also, shout out to Jeffrey Lord finally getting fired from CNN.
matt riggs
Hail Hitler, buddy.
dan friesen
That was bizarre.
matt riggs
Or Zeke Hale or whatever he said.
dan friesen
Threw a Zeke Heil out there on Twitter.
You're gone.
matt riggs
Yeah, he gone.
dan friesen
It's been a big day.
A lot of shit that's been going on.
matt riggs
Yes.
dan friesen
It's very difficult to keep track of all this.
matt riggs
I don't know how you do this show all the time.
You've brought my...
I was so excited and fun, and I'm just so beat down by this, just for what, the hour we've been going?
dan friesen
I would say that me and Jordan are both crazy, and we find some sort of...
I can't explain it, because it's not healthy, but there's some sort of fun in exploring Alex's crazy.
Because...
You're just jumping in.
You haven't listened to a lot of our old episodes, but we've really established in a lot of ways that he, which is what I'm about to say, does not make anything he says okay.
He's a tragic figure.
By my estimation, from what I've learned over studying him solidly for the last eight months, is that he is a child.
He has arrested development that probably stems out of childhood drug use.
Childhood brain damage, under-parenting, or some sort of abuse as a child, or a combination thereof.
And that has led him to view the world in a very infantile way that has informed his philosophy about these globalists.
So he started reading books that he couldn't understand when he was a child, and now he's gotten to a point where he's very successful, and he's got a paranoid army of racists behind him, and there are a lot of people like Roger Stone, Like these other guests that he has on who are just using him.
He's just getting tricked by guests over and over and over again.
It's very sad, but the consequences of it are very real.
But since we're all going to die anyway, it's kind of fun to laugh at the...
The stupidity of it.
matt riggs
Yeah.
No, I see that.
I was enjoying myself during that first big rant.
dan friesen
Sure.
matt riggs
And then it's like, oh no.
It's like the reality just soaked into my body.
I was like, ugh.
dan friesen
Yeah.
matt riggs
This is a thing.
dan friesen
Well, we'll get back to some more fun stuff here because some guests are coming up.
matt riggs
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Roger Stone is about to appear.
He is not audible in this clip, but he is, this is Alex Jones talking to Roger Stone.
And in this next clip, he predicts his own death.
We think of espionage by some foreign power.
alex jones
The most common form of espionage is a coup, like we see in Latin America or Asia or Europe.
Here our coups are just more silent, because we don't do that in the West.
And it's a classic coup by deep state.
With comedy shows acting as news bullhorns out there cheerleading.
dan friesen
He's super mad at Colbert and John Oliver because they've done jokes about him.
So now he believes that these comedy shows are part of the globalist apparatus and what have you.
matt riggs
If someone fucks up his coffee on the way to work, is that person a globalist?
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
alex jones
Even targeting you and myself for destruction, cutting off our sponsors, trying to put us in prison.
I would expect that you've talked about this.
I would expect a SWAT team, right?
I would expect you to get one because that's what they do.
We've sat around.
We went out on my ski boat a few weeks ago and we had the discussion over a beer.
We said, I wonder when we get the SWAT team, right?
Because we know that then escalates into them killing us because first they want to demonize you as a criminal and then have somebody kill you.
A car wreck, carjacking, whatever it is, or you're found dead with a hooker and heroin.
This is the kind of crap they do.
Assassinate your character ahead of actually killing you.
So I just want everybody to know, I'm not a loser if they kill me.
I'm a winner.
We change the world.
And don't take my death as a loss.
Take it as a martyr.
Move forward.
We are going to defeat these people.
We are the winners.
We are the free market.
We are the Americans.
We are the patriots.
We are the underdogs.
And we are winning.
Roger Stone.
unidentified
Oh.
No.
matt riggs
I wonder how many times he's predicted his own death.
dan friesen
So many fucking times.
matt riggs
It has to be, right?
dan friesen
Oh, so many times.
It's right around the corner.
They're gonna kill me.
And even Roger Stone has twice done a death hoax.
matt riggs
Yeah?
dan friesen
Like, he's pretended that he got poisoned with polonium like nine months ago.
And then a couple months after that, he was in a bizarre witness-less car accident.
He said he got T-boned by a guy who was trying to kill him.
unidentified
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
So Roger Stone has actively tried to, like...
Present the idea.
He had the flu.
And he said he got polonium.
And that his doctors told him not to tell anybody.
The FBI said, don't talk about it.
It's like, that didn't happen.
There's absolutely no way anyone hit you with polonium poisoning.
matt riggs
Yeah.
The thing that stuck out to me when he was like, yeah, they tried to put me in prison.
No, you said all that crazy bullshit about the company in what?
Montana or wherever the hell it was, right?
dan friesen
Which one is this?
matt riggs
Not Chibata, but the...
dan friesen
Oh, it was North Dakota.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
matt riggs
That's what almost got you in prison.
dan friesen
No, they couldn't have gotten him in prison.
They could just sue the shit out of him.
They came to an agreement because he apologized and retracted the story that he did.
But ever since then, he's played it like, they couldn't wait to get out of that lawsuit.
They're lucky they got out without paying me.
It's like, no, you reported lies about them.
matt riggs
That's so Trump, though.
dan friesen
We did an entire episode about the Chobani situation.
If you haven't listened to that, go back and listen.
Hit it up, guys.
That's a really interesting episode.
That really highlights how fucked up Alex is.
matt riggs
Can I also suggest ciabatta bread?
It's really good.
dan friesen
I love it.
matt riggs
It's so good.
dan friesen
Back when I worked at Subway, they had the ciabatta.
matt riggs
Sure.
dan friesen
Oh, I ate a lot of that.
matt riggs
Is it tuna yet?
dan friesen
Oh, my God.
That's the best shirt.
So, Roger Stone is on.
And in this next clip, he reveals that he's part of a secret society.
But he names the secret society.
He talks about what they do.
Which makes it no longer really a secret society.
matt riggs
Isn't he a swinger?
I heard something about him being a swinger.
dan friesen
I think he might be, but, you know, I don't like to get into people's personal lives.
matt riggs
I didn't know if that was what it was.
dan friesen
No, this is very Trump-based.
alex jones
I mean, are they going to indict me as being a Ruski?
roger stone
We had a meeting last night of the 45 group, which is a secret group of Trump loyalists.
We have pledged to do whatever is necessary to avert this coup.
And there is some discussion that you are on a hit list for government raid, for harassment.
I'm on the list.
There are several others that are mutual friends of ours.
So you're in good company.
But yes, I think that, Alex, you've been targeted because you're the tip of the spear, because you are riling people to stand up against the machine.
dan friesen
So, you see there, it ends with some nice, you're the best.
That's a hallmark of Alex Gast sort of manipulating him, saying, like, you're so important, you're the greatest.
Roger Stone's got this group of dudes he hangs out with.
Like, what do you do?
You just sit around with, like, Brandy, sit around and talk about, ooh, who else is going to be targeted?
matt riggs
Ooh, who else?
Jared Kushner, maybe?
dan friesen
Well, Roger Stone clearly doesn't indicate that he had any foreknowledge of Manafort's raid before the news broke on Wednesday.
So what does he know?
What kind of inside information does he have?
It's just him and his asshole friends sitting around and commiserating.
That's crazy.
Also, if you're really a secret organization, don't fucking bring that up on the Alex Jones show.
matt riggs
No.
dan friesen
That makes me think that you just...
Maybe it is a swingers club.
So, uh, we're done with Roger Stone.
Bye, Rog.
He doesn't have a lot to say.
It's mostly just, uh, Manafort is cool.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
That sort of shit.
Uh, but now we gotta get to Adam Curry.
Gotta get to the podfather.
matt riggs
Oh my gosh.
dan friesen
So.
matt riggs
Does he at any point, like, throw to a video?
dan friesen
He doesn't.
matt riggs
No?
dan friesen
No.
But he does, uh, have a podcast apparently called the No Agenda Show, which he, isn't that like every podcast?
I got an agenda.
matt riggs
I know you have one.
I feel like you're one of like six people that have an agenda.
dan friesen
I got a very clear agenda.
Yeah.
But he also has an agenda.
It's like the no spin zone.
It's like the worst named show ever.
matt riggs
It's the opposite of what it is?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Adam Curry, like what you mentioned, he is a former MTV VJ.
He basically, I don't know exactly if he invented podcasting, but everyone credits him with being like the first to do podcasting.
But also, what you don't know is that his uncle was in the CIA.
matt riggs
Tim?
dan friesen
Uncle Don.
matt riggs
So his uncle is not Tim Curry?
dan friesen
He's not.
Don Gregg is his name, apparently.
And so he has a lot of information about North Korea that you don't have.
matt riggs
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Because of his family connection to a CIA agent.
matt riggs
Sure he does.
dan friesen
So he wants to give you a little bit of analysis about the North Korea situation.
This is probably not going to flare up.
But his take on it is very interesting.
matt riggs
Well, the people are still there.
That's my whole thing.
The people are still in South Korea.
Once you see them leave, war is happening.
dan friesen
That's probably fair.
adam curry
One reason, well, two reasons.
The military-industrial complex, whenever we need sales to South Korea or in that region, we have all kinds of problems.
They have miniaturized nukes.
alex jones
So it's a trigger point.
adam curry
And then, woof, then we sell.
Now, we've been trying to sell the new president, Park.
It had been very difficult.
He didn't want any missile defense.
We, of course, want missile defense there to keep our eye on China.
North Korea is not suicidal.
I also don't think the president's words meant nuclear war.
I love the words he chose.
alex jones
Fury.
adam curry
Fury and fire.
alex jones
Fury is like a really hot Valkyrie of war, isn't it?
adam curry
It conjures up images.
He didn't say, we're going to nuke you.
And to me, personally, I think it may be another move in his negotiation because all he has to do is let Kim Jong-un save face one way or the other.
And we may see that happen.
alex jones
We're going to play that clip in a moment, but I've got to tell you, Adam, this is amazing analysis.
dan friesen
It's not.
matt riggs
I don't completely disagree about the South Korea thing.
dan friesen
What's trying to sell them missile defense?
matt riggs
I don't completely disagree with that.
dan friesen
Well, I don't think that's what's primarily motivating things.
But then beyond that, what they're talking about there at the end, you've got to give Kim Jong-un a chance to save face.
What they're getting at and what they get into is the idea that Trump will be like, alright, look, you get rid of your nukes and then 50 years down the line we'll reunify Korea and it'll be you who did it.
You will be the one responsible for reunifying North and South Korea.
It's like, what?
That's what's going on.
You think that's what's going on?
That's not what's going on.
matt riggs
No.
dan friesen
But that's what they think is going on.
matt riggs
No, I don't think.
Why would they want to reunify Korea?
dan friesen
Well, because that's what North Korea would want.
matt riggs
But they want Korea, but if they're in charge.
dan friesen
Right.
That's a big problem with this whole idea.
Because neither side would compromise.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's why they are two countries and shall remain.
matt riggs
I'm not being rude.
I just want to look up a picture of Adam Curry so I know what he looks like.
dan friesen
Okay.
Well, while you do that, I have some bad news.
matt riggs
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Adam Curry is a bit of a racist.
matt riggs
Oh.
dan friesen
I didn't realize that the guy who brought us podcasting is a difficult bigot.
But let's listen to this next clip where he explains that certain cultures are not compatible.
matt riggs
I feel bad for downtown Julie Brown.
adam curry
Well, obviously, there are problems.
And I go back to my original premise.
The problem is we want to have stuff in that area to keep our eye on China, which really is, China, I think, is dangerous.
I mean, there's stuff going on that we really don't understand, don't know much about.
And, man, do we have cultural differences, incredible cultural differences with the Chinese.
Chinese tourists, I was in Florence.
They're spitting on the ground.
They're hawking everywhere.
They're rude.
They push you around.
That's their culture.
They don't deem that to be rude.
We are very incompatible from everything that I've seen.
And I'm just talking about...
The people that come to you.
alex jones
And that's the thing.
I'm not bashing Chinese people.
My sister's Korean adopted, but she's completely different than people you run into who are from Korea, where it's a total caste society.
Men are, like, totally in charge.
But the liberals don't care about that.
That's fine.
And, I mean, it's almost like a hive or something.
They're very smart people, but it's like a beehive.
Then you...
I've talked to Paul Watson, who was married to a Chinese lady for a while, and he went there a lot.
And I'm not going to get into the whole story, but they sort of get messages from China.
Watch what you're saying.
Even though the family didn't even live in China, they were visiting people.
And he said, even the nice area, people just pull their pants down, start crapping, push you out of the way.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this is one of the big sort of white nationalist narratives that other cultures are not compatible with ours because of, I don't know, intrinsic problems that they have.
matt riggs
Or they're just different.
They're like...
dan friesen
They shit on the street.
matt riggs
I don't think they do that.
dan friesen
But you know who does shit on the street?
matt riggs
Who?
dan friesen
Poor people and homeless.
matt riggs
Sure.
dan friesen
In every culture.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That happens here in Chicago.
matt riggs
Of course it does.
dan friesen
That happens in every city with homeless populations.
matt riggs
Yes, it does.
dan friesen
So fuck off with the trying to paint Chinese as evil street shitters.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
But we were saying...
matt riggs
Well, I work in a tourism business.
My job is in tourism.
And there are times where...
You know, you get sort of stereotypical, like, well, you know what?
I don't normally get tips from people from this country.
I'm not going to say where.
dan friesen
But I bet there's a lot of Europeans who don't give tips.
matt riggs
There's some Europeans.
Australians are amazing.
It's not their culture to do it.
dan friesen
Right.
Even if you go to parts of Europe, tipping is rude.
So, like, you giving a tip...
Is out of line.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
So what we think is generous is actually not appropriate.
So they're not being rude to you.
It just feels bad because you want their money.
matt riggs
Is that how I should take it?
Like, oh my god, these people love me so much.
I only made four dollars.
dan friesen
I'm not sure if it's that they like you so much, but that it would be rude of them to give you money because it's like, oh, poor person.
Here, take money.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm not even sure if that's the motivation behind it, but anyway.
matt riggs
I drove last night for the Cheap Trick foreigner concert.
dan friesen
Hell yeah.
matt riggs
I made $285 in tips.
dan friesen
Everyone's on coke.
matt riggs
It was great.
dan friesen
Everyone's coked out going to see Cheap Trick.
unidentified
Woo-woo!
dan friesen
Throw the man some money.
matt riggs
Yep.
dan friesen
I very strongly dislike the narrative of incompatibility.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
It generally comes and is proven by people being unwilling to be compatible with the people who come in.
That's how the evidence is like, oh, of course they're incompatible, because we bully people and other them until they insulate completely into their own cloisters, and then one crazy person of that group attacks us, and then we see it as proof that we're incompatible.
matt riggs
That whole Alex Jones saying his, what, sister?
Korean adopted?
She's not that way because you raised her in the United States.
You raised her culturally different.
dan friesen
Yeah.
matt riggs
That's how the fucking world works.
dan friesen
No, I think that doesn't work against his dumb point, though.
matt riggs
No?
dan friesen
Because he's like, yeah, she's great.
She's from the West.
She was raised in the West.
Those cultures are bad, and we don't want people from those cultures coming into our culture.
But I just don't understand the end sort of result of that mentality because at a certain point...
It has to be eradication of those bad cultures.
matt riggs
The way I took it is I'm heading to China to take a shit on the street.
dan friesen
Why not?
See, it's freeing.
matt riggs
It's all gravy, baby.
dan friesen
You get to push people over.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I think he's dumb, and I really, really, really, really, really get worried when people start to discuss the possibility of integration and stuff like that, because it really smacks to me of...
I mean, it's just racism.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's it.
It's not cultural.
That's not what it's about.
matt riggs
No.
dan friesen
Just people who are different.
matt riggs
Of course.
dan friesen
So I have one more clip left before we end this adventure.
matt riggs
Oh my goodness.
It's flown by.
dan friesen
Well, you know, there's only so much to discuss.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
He only yells about North Korea a couple times, and the Paul Manafort narrative is stupid.
matt riggs
It is.
It's very dumb.
dan friesen
I expected, honestly, that rant he did at the beginning to take us much longer to get through.
matt riggs
Yeah.
Oh, I felt like after a while you wanted me to not talk as much.
Because you were like, oh, we got a lot to get through.
So I sort of pulled back a little bit.
dan friesen
Oh, I meant...
I apologize if that was the sense you got.
I meant more spiritually we have a lot to get through.
matt riggs
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
A lot of bullshit.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
Speaking of bullshit, this clip is bullshit.
matt riggs
Alright.
dan friesen
This is Adam Curry saying some stuff that...
I don't know how to put too fine a point on this.
He might...
Be a literal neo-Nazi.
matt riggs
Yeah?
dan friesen
Yeah.
matt riggs
Oh my gosh.
dan friesen
I don't know, and I'll explain my case after the clip.
matt riggs
He didn't create iTunes, right?
dan friesen
No.
matt riggs
Okay, so if he had a podcast early, that's fine.
dan friesen
We can still keep podcasting?
matt riggs
I'm going to say Leo Laporte is a good dude, so I'm going to go with that.
dan friesen
Next week, Leo Laporte's on Alex Jones.
matt riggs
Oh no, Leo!
dan friesen
So here's this.
alex jones
And then, what's the cultural deal with bringing in the most radical, battle-hardened males?
While you're attacking and stirring up Islam and putting radicals in, then why do you then flood Europe with military-age men running around like pirate ships docking?
adam curry
Well, that's different.
That is part of the Kalergi plan.
I don't know if you've ever heard of that, Kalergi plan.
And they still give out awards, the Kalergi award for furthering the European Union.
Merkel won that recently.
alex jones
They want to expand that into the Middle East.
adam curry
Well, and the idea is to create a uniform...
It literally calls for people who look like Egyptians, brown.
And that's happening.
I mean, I grew up in Amsterdam, and I saw the transition.
First it was Turkish, and then Moroccan.
And now we have, you know, second, third generation kids born in the Netherlands, and people just start to become browns.
You know, the culture kind of flows.
The whole multicultural society, that was the idea, is to have a big mass of people.
Bring in people who can do the work that the old people, the whitish people, the Europeans as we know them, don't want to do, and slowly create a big, and I'm not making this up, and this is not a conspiracy.
alex jones
Peter Sutherland, the head of the EU, now the head of the Cultural Enrichment Program, Open Borders, that's what they actually call it, said we've got to end Europe being white.
But here's the thing, they don't want to get rid of the culture.
Of big, beautiful buildings and juries and property.
I mean, they're bringing in the muzzles because they want to make it authoritarian.
adam curry
Yes.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, do you want to learn a little bit about what he just said there?
matt riggs
I would, yeah.
dan friesen
So, he's talking about white people race mixing and stuff like that and how that's really negative.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he brings up the Kalergi plan.
As evidence.
He's not making it up.
It's not a conspiracy theory.
matt riggs
Yeah, Angela Merkel won the award, apparently.
dan friesen
Now, if you're out there listening, please feel free to do this.
Google the Kalergi plan.
It's K-A-L-E-R-G-I.
You can go as far as you want down the Google results.
Almost every single website you will find is white supremacist, neo-Nazi, or just...
Fucking crazy anti-Semitic New World Order shit.
matt riggs
Yeah.
dan friesen
A hundred percent.
There is no such thing called the Kalergi plan.
It is something that is made up by these fucking dudes who think that whiteness is somehow being under attack.
It's a white genocide narrative.
And here's how it began.
There's a guy named Richard Von Kudhove Kalergi.
He was a gentleman back in the 20s.
He came to prominence.
He was the son of an Austrian and a Japanese wife.
So he was multicultural in his life.
And he understood that, hey, not so bad.
Not so bad a thing to have different cultures in your family.
And so one of the things he wanted to do, his big life goal, was to create something called the Pan-European Union.
Back in the 20s.
His philosophy, he believed that race would eventually disappear as society evolved.
And the big quote that all these white nationalist, white supremacist sites take out of context is this quote.
The man of the future will be of mixed race.
Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice.
The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with the diversity of individuals.
I find nothing scary about that.
matt riggs
No, that sounds fantastic.
What's wrong with it?
dan friesen
All these fucking people are so scared about their whiteness that they're like, it's a plan.
That's what they want.
They're going to make that happen.
All he's saying is...
That's probably what's gonna happen as people get rid of their hatred over time and become more acquainted with other cultures.
It's just an inevitable outcome of people not being assholes.
matt riggs
Yeah, we have boats.
We have planes.
We have ways to be around people of different things now.
So it's going to happen.
People are going to be falling in love or fucking.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
And that's probably a radical idea back in the 20s.
dan friesen
Sure.
Yeah.
matt riggs
That's a problem.
dan friesen
It's fucked up.
I don't know if it's a problem, because I don't think you can do that.
matt riggs
Well, no, but I think it's a problem, sure.
Forced crossbreeding?
Forced anything is a problem.
dan friesen
It's philosophically a problem, but I think you'd have a bigger problem implementing that plan.
matt riggs
Sure.
dan friesen
They believe that these migrants...
matt riggs
You melt the dudes for semen, and you just impregnate the ladies.
dan friesen
Oh, I guess you could do that.
These migrants that are coming in, they believe that it is, like, I mean, it happens in this country.
Well, no, that part of it...
We can kind of agree is fairly true.
There is like immigrant labor issues, but that's not what the Kalergi plan is that they're talking about.
So you want to hear, this is something that's also really fun to compare to Alex Jones and Adam Curry talking about the Kalergi plan as being these globalists wanting to de-white society by bringing in brown and black people in order to breed with them.
Hitler opposed...
matt riggs
Sure, of course he did.
dan friesen
He absolutely hated Kalergi, hated his ideas, because he felt that this pan-European Union idea would be a pacifist country that wouldn't be able to defend itself against the inevitable attack from the United States.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
So that's one problem he had.
He also believed that the planning for the pan-European Union was full of masons, which, if you want to translate to Alex Jones's vernacular, globalists.
matt riggs
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Also, there was a problem because Richard von Kudhov-Kalergi was roundly opposed to anti-Semitism and defended Jews vociferously.
So, Hitler hated this guy that Alex Jones hates and thought that his organization was full of globalists.
Basically, there's an analog here.
Alex Jones is kind of on the side of Nazis.
So, that's where I'd like to leave things, in terms of my analysis.
There is no Kalergi plan.
Adam Curry is fucking straight up spouting neo-Nazi white supremacist bullshit on Alex's show.
matt riggs
He grew up in Holland.
dan friesen
I don't give a shit.
I don't give a shit.
He grew up on MTV.
matt riggs
He did.
We all did.
dan friesen
Alex Jones, one of his biggest problems is he doesn't fucking have any awareness of the world, really.
So he just allows people to spread ideas like this.
I'm going to guess that he doesn't know all that much about this Kalergi plan idea.
Or that the only places peddling in it are fucking hate sites.
matt riggs
Maybe you should tweet at him.
Let him know.
dan friesen
I don't like tweeting at him.
It scares me.
It scares me, the idea of him fucking screaming at me about demons and shit.
matt riggs
Well, it's getting late.
He might be talking to Satan right now.
dan friesen
They're an hour behind, though, I think.
But yeah, so...
What do you think, Matt?
What's your experience of your first adventure into Alex Jones Land?
matt riggs
Oh, boy.
It's as nutballs as I would have guessed.
A little more scarier than I thought once I put in the practice of people actually watching it for real.
dan friesen
Once you start to think about that, it becomes less funny.
matt riggs
Yeah.
And also...
I appreciate that you take the time to do all this, but man, if I could watch the video of him also doing that.
Like, some of those, what are you talking about?
unidentified
They're demons.
matt riggs
Like, that was a pretty good impression.
dan friesen
It's not bad.
matt riggs
But I would have liked to have seen what he was doing at that time, if that makes sense.
dan friesen
It's not as visually appealing as you might think.
matt riggs
No?
dan friesen
I mean, if you've seen him screaming once, you've seen it all the time.
matt riggs
Okay.
dan friesen
It's very rarely...
Aesthetically pleasing.
matt riggs
It'd also be way harder for you to do that, but...
dan friesen
And I never will.
matt riggs
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sure.
Yeah.
But you have to listen to the whole show?
dan friesen
Yeah.
matt riggs
To find all this?
dan friesen
Oh, do I?
matt riggs
You do this at your job every day?
dan friesen
Do I ever.
matt riggs
Oh, brother, brother, brother.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a lot of research that goes into this.
matt riggs
Yeah.
And there's still, after eight months, there's not a point where you're kind of like, maybe I'm...
I'm tipping over to the dark side.
dan friesen
No, because I know enough about him that I'm not going to be led down to the dark side by a fucking idiot.
There are moments when maybe a couple times I've gotten high in the last few months, and those are the times when I'm like, I can't handle this.
I can't handle this.
Because I am naturally skeptical of rich people.
I don't think that corporate interests are really...
They don't want to protect us.
I do have a distrust of super powerful people.
So when Alex gets really confident and on a rant, and I'm a little high, I can't defend myself necessarily.
I'm like, oh wait, you're really confident about your ideas.
You must be right.
But that passes very quick.
And I realize, oh no, no, no, no, no.
This is a racist.
This is a monstrous dude.
And globalists aren't real.
matt riggs
I don't understand.
And maybe it's because they're older, they're getting older, and they're scared what might happen to the world after they're no longer around.
dan friesen
You mean Alex?
matt riggs
Yeah, Alex and even Adam Curry in those clips and stuff.
It's like they want to keep the white race.
dan friesen
That's mostly what it is.
matt riggs
Yeah.
It's the white race.
The last moment that my heart stops and that it's all done...
I don't give a fuck what happens.
I'm not even a thing anymore.
dan friesen
Right.
matt riggs
At least I believe.
I mean, I guess they believe, you know, heaven, all that stuff, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But, I don't know.
Maybe it's because I don't have kids.
I don't know.
I just don't care.
dan friesen
I think one of the pieces of it is that for you and I, the fact that we're white doesn't matter that much to us.
And there are a lot of people who it is a very important piece to them.
matt riggs
And then I also, almost a little, not a flip of that, but in the same vein, is that we are white and we are dudes.
So we have to be conscious of not just taking that for granted.
Because I think we do.
It's easy.
Not that it's easy that you take it for granted, but that's just your life.
That's the life that you've always known.
dan friesen
Right.
matt riggs
You take any of that for granted no matter what you are or whatever.
But I get reminded by my fiancé when she's like, yeah, I ran into the courtyard and made sure the door was locked because I was afraid that someone might get me.
And I'm like, that makes no sense to me because I'm six foot two and gigantic.
Yeah.
That is never a fear of mine.
Sure.
5 '5", and a dainty young gal.
So I was like, okay, sure.
Or, you know, black people dealing with the things that they deal with.
I don't deal with that, so it's on a day-to-day basis I don't think about it.
Right.
dan friesen
And it's the baseline for a lot of other people's existence.
matt riggs
Yeah.
And I'm trying to be more aware of that.
dan friesen
Right.
matt riggs
Because I'm a good person.
dan friesen
Alex would say that you're a race pimp.
matt riggs
Okay, I'll take it.
I want to share this as race pimp.
dan friesen
So if people want to send you some race pimp money, they can do it at rigs4u at yahoo.com.
matt riggs
Of course, PayPal, baby.
dan friesen
Also, people can check out your podcast, Bad News, Good Timing.
matt riggs
Yeah, we don't do it very often during the summer because my co-host and I work a lot.
dan friesen
Sure, a lot of tourist stuff.
matt riggs
We just hit 200.
I think we're at 201.
dan friesen
Congratulations.
matt riggs
Thank you very much.
And it's a fun time.
I'd rather plug this if you live in the Chicagoland area.
The second Sunday of every month, we do a show called Actual Murders at North Bar.
dan friesen
That's correct.
matt riggs
And it's a free show.
unidentified
Sketch.
matt riggs
It's super fun.
dan friesen
Jokes.
matt riggs
If by chance you're listening before this Sunday, we have a friend of the show, Marty DeRosa, Sarah Shockey, and Rodescu Hopkins.
They're all going to be doing stand-up or sketch.
dan friesen
The heck of a show.
matt riggs
Joe Fernandez, Chris Houser, Danny Patton.
dan friesen
That's it.
At North.
matt riggs
At North.
8 o 'clock.
Free show.
You can donate if you want, but free show.
dan friesen
Yep.
People can find out more at actualmurderers.com.
There's some sketches up there and shit.
There are.
matt riggs
Sure, of course.
We're also on Funny or Die.
Click Funny.
dan friesen
Very weird to have something to plug that isn't our website.
matt riggs
I know.
I got sad today.
I tried to go to freezingpoint.com and it didn't exist.
dan friesen
It's gone.
But, you know, it's not gone.
Knowledgefight.com.
matt riggs
It is there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
matt riggs
The Matthew Riggs show or themattriggsshow.com is also gone.
dan friesen
What about talkintraz.com?
matt riggs
Talkintraz did never exist.
dan friesen
Everyone out there, that is a podcast me and Matt Riggs did about the short-lived show.
Alcatraz.
matt riggs
You can still check out the message boards, I believe, are up.
dan friesen
So stupid.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
You can also follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight, and we are on iTunes at knowledge fight.
matt riggs
Apple podcast.
dan friesen
Check us out on Facebook.
We are out there on the streets.
I really appreciate all the messages people are sending on Facebook.
It's super awesome to engage with fans.
matt riggs
Before we leave.
dan friesen
Fans.
Friends.
Also, one other thing.
I forgot.
matt riggs
What do you think about this crush?
dan friesen
It's a little sweet.
matt riggs
Right at the end, I just got a whole bunch.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's not bad.
It's a good facsimile of a soda, but it's pretty sweet.
matt riggs
My first drink, I was impressed, and now I don't care.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, Matt, this has been fun.
matt riggs
It has been fun.
I'm more than happy to come back anytime Jordan's unavailable.
dan friesen
Thank you for joining me, and we will keep your resume on file.
matt riggs
Oh, no.
dan friesen
But I got to tell you, before we leave, there's this guy.
He's this old dude.
He's kind of an asshole.
He's got a big bushy beard.
He's written a bunch of stuff about how HIV doesn't lead to AIDS and stuff.
He's a real weird dude.
Comes on Alex Jones' show a lot.
Talks about how mental illness isn't real and psychiatric medication is just trying to kill you.
Anyway, his name is John Rappaport and he can go fuck himself.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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