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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We are a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Is there a twist today unspecific to the twists of yesterday?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I was trying to go with yesteryear, and I was like, we haven't been doing this.
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Strange phrase.
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Yestermonth?
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I don't know.
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I got nothing.
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Today's novelty beverage is red wine.
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We are going back to our roots.
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The show originally was us drinking wine and talking about Alex Jones.
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We had to settle that down for a little bit.
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We wanted to go back to the roots!
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And the reason was given to me by Dan as...
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We're gonna need to drink wine for this one.
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We might need to brace ourselves.
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Steal our reserves.
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Right, right, right.
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That's not the expression, but...
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No.
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Look, I think that we've been getting...
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Steal our reserves.
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You know, we got a lot of food squared away.
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We need to cover it in steel.
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Right, and you know nothing about Alex Jones.
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I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
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Premise of the show, I know a lot about Alex Jones.
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Jordan over there does not know much about him.
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I'm just excited we're drinking again.
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Amen.
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One of the reasons was I was listening back to our last episode, and I realized I was way too mad about...
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The people who were posting the Bon Iver video meme of Alex Jones.
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You were very pissed.
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I was right, but I was way too mad.
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And I don't like that.
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That's not what this show's supposed to be.
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I don't want to turn into some Alex Jones facsimile where I'm screaming that everybody's doing this wrong and all this.
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Oh, that's true.
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I felt really self-conscious about it.
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I'm like, well, the only...
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Solution is let's get drunk.
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Well, I mean, I have actually been having the same kind of thoughts recently where it's like, are we just becoming the anti-Alex Jones?
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Like, there's been a couple of things where I've noticed, like, listening back, it's like, oh, that's exactly what he does.
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But we don't build up false narratives for a specific purpose.
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You know, like, I don't think we do that.
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But we tear down false narratives for a specific purpose.
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Which is...
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So we're just the anti-Alex Jones.
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We're tearing down those narratives for the sake of tearing them down because they're lies.
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Right.
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So I think it's okay.
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We're like Reagan.
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Right.
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Tear down that lie wall.
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But to get back to that.
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God, I hope David Hasselhoff closes out this episode.
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He definitely will.
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He comes in in the money bomb.
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Really?
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Okay.
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So, like, I want to also say that, like I said...
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And now we have Baywatch star David Hasselhoff to sing his recording.
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Donna DeRico.
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On backup vocals.
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I want to say that about that Bon Iver video, I'm totally right.
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Alex Jones just announced...
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That's twice we have confirmed Deon is right.
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Self-confirmed?
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Well, Alex Jones, just at the end of last week, announced a $20,000 contest for people to make parody versions of this parody song about him.
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Yep.
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And that's what I'm saying he's going to do.
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That's what he does all the time with this shit.
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No, you have been proven right, but, you know, it's a little gauche to talk about it yourself.
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You should have given me a little cue.
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I would have been like, Dan, you're so right.
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The reason I brought it up and maybe forced a self-congratulatory note is because I know exactly what the plan is for what this contest is going to achieve.
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He's basically going to have all the, he's posted all the lyrics of the parody song on his website, on Infowars.com, and what he's going to have people do, and the winner who ends up winning this $10,000 of the $20,000, because it's broken down, it's three prizes, one for best parody, that's $10,000.
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$5,000 will be awarded to the person who films it in the weirdest, or best location.
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Their video is in the, I don't know what that means.
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Congress?
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Is that a way to avoid paying out that $5,000?
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Probably.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But I know what he's going to do.
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All the lyrics are there.
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My sex dungeon is the weirdest location.
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It's super weird.
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That's super weird, but I'm not giving you five grand for it.
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It is a way that he is going to essentially get people to try and reinforce...
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The lines in that song that people are making fun of.
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So it'll be like, we love our Somalis, and then flash up on the screen something about how Somalis kill people.
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It's going to be a thing where he takes his propaganda and it's reinforced through the use of that parody song.
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It's like, oh, they're making fun of all this stuff.
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All of it's true.
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They do want to eat babies.
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Stuff like that.
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And it's like, you guys are fighting a losing battle.
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So, anyway.
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It's going to be a bummer.
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But the good news is way less people will see that parody version than the Bon Iver version.
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That's definitely true.
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So there's something to be said for that.
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I don't know.
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Let's get into greener pastures and happy things.
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I'd like to give a shout-out to a couple of new donators.
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Oh, shit!
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A couple?
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That's right.
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I'd like to give a shout-out to our new friend, Rex.
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What's going on out there?
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you for donating, Rex.
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If you're Rex Tillerson, you have to let us know.
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It's not.
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It's Rex.
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How dare you, Rex Tillerson?
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It's Rex from our favorite pro-wrestling-themed punk band, the Razor Ramones.
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All right.
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Well, then never mind, Rex.
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I'm a huge fan of you.
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Yeah, you're the best Rex of the Rexes we've mentioned.
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Also, I'd like to give a shout-out to our other new donator.
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What's up, Anthony?
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Welcome aboard.
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If that's Anthony Weiner, I'm just going to do this every single time you give a first name.
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It's actually Anthony Kumia, host of the fourth hour of the Alex Jones program, periodically.
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Anyway, Jordan, let's get things started.
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I like the idea that Infowars employees actually stealth donate to us, just going like, please get us out of this.
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He won't let us leave.
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He won't let us leave.
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Just take him down.
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Somebody!
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Only you can destroy him.
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Today, we're going to be going over Investigation, the 11th installment of the Investigation, where we go through 2015 and find out what the fuck happened to make Alex Jones go crazy.
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Yes.
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And today, we'll be going through September 6th to September 17th.
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This is...
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This is inexplicable, right?
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Like, when did this...
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This started in June?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Our investigation began June 15th, the day that Donald Trump announced his candidacy.
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How is this still going on?
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Shouldn't it be over by now?
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I expected it to be.
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Especially with his full-on, like...
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Now he's going, 1776, you know, that whole thing.
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You mean in 2017?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Shouldn't he be on the train by now?
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What's going on?
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You'd think you would have made some sort of substantial move, and we just have not seen that yet.
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No, not at all.
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No.
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Today we're going to be going over, like I said, September 6th, the 17th.
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The reason that's important is the end of his big money bomb, which we've discussed.
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And it's what I have speculated is the opportunity.
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For bizarro money to come flowing into the show.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think that might...
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I've speculated that might be the case.
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I don't know.
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So does he get into, like, a tube and a lot of $1 bills kind of get vacuumed around him, you know, like one of those shows?
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The big air jets?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It would be better...
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He has to grab as many of them as he can in order to...
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Now, Larry Nichols, I know you have lung cancer, but get in the tube.
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If you want your bills covered, get in the tube.
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I don't know.
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It would be better.
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That's way more fun.
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Don't give out $10,000 prizes.
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No.
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Just fly somebody out.
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Put them in a tube and throw $1 bills at them the whole time.
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That'd be perfect.
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That'd be great.
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I would be way more happy with that than $10,000.
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I probably would, too, for the story, for the experience.
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Yeah, of course.
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Money's just money.
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You can't take it with you when you go.
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And seeing as how we're all going in like 10 to 15 years max.
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Oh, that seems high.
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Oh, yeah.
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But you know what?
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Before we go, before we die, everyone needs to listen to this Out of Context drop from Alex Jones.
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God bless you, man.
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I'm sorry for your son.
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They didn't get his soul, though.
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And see, I don't know how that works when they brain damage a baby.
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And they never attain full consciousness.
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I guess that soul just ends up when they die going right to God.
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So in a way, it's a reprieve.
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I can't judge.
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See, the globalists know a lot of this stuff.
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I wonder if they wouldn't be brain-killing kids or soft-killing them, mind-killing them if they thought they weren't still getting the soul because that's what they really want.
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So maybe they think when they're all brain-damaged and get all crazed and then get older, That they'll get smart enough to get corrupted and maybe possessed.
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I don't know.
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I mean, I'm trying to figure out why these demons, from whatever dimension they come from, want to brain damage the kids.
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Because I know God doesn't damn people to hell that never were conscious.
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I don't know.
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It's just food for thought.
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Food for thought.
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Why is that food for thought?
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I don't know.
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Also, I love the Mindkiller reference to Gang Gang Dance.
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Everybody knows that.
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I'm certain that's what it was.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's a great song.
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It's a great song.
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Jordan, I completely fucked up.
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I forgot that I...
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I know.
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I forgot that...
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The Bon Iver video was great.
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No, I forgot that I had another thing I wanted to discuss before we got into our main episode.
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Okay.
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So guys, forgive me, but I have another clip that we need to listen to.
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Okay.
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Because it's great.
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Recently, I don't have permission to play this, but I'm going to anyway.
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I hope he doesn't sue me.
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All right.
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Recently, Jimmy Pardo on Never Not Funny had Tom Arnold as a guest.
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And Tom Arnold had a very interesting story about some of the people that are involved in our universe.
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Okay.
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Alex Jones comes up in this clip.
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Yeah.
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Mike Cernovich comes up in this clip.
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And alleged Nazi Jesse James comes up in this clip.
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This, when I heard this...
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Sandra Bullock?
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Also alleged Nazi.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Come on.
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When I heard this, I squealed with delight, and I want to play this.
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For those of you out in the world who do not have Never Not Funny, don't get the episodes.
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Please, enjoy Tom Arnold being cool as shit.
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Well, here's what happened.
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Here's last week.
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This alt-right guy, white supremacist guy, challenges me to a fight.
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He says, oh, I go good.
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We'll do it for charity, because I do these charity boxing matches.
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I fought my old rabbi who made $300,000 for Beto Shuba.
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I go, I will fight you for money.
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Good, we'll take your fans.
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And then all of a sudden, this guy named Jesse James hoards and says, I'll represent Mike Servich, is the guy's name.
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Oh, that idiot.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And Jesse James goes, I will fight tough.
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I'll fight.
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And I go, wait a minute.
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Are you the Jesse James that cheated on his awesome wife with the stripper with the swastika tattoo and lost his family?
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Because there's a lot of Jesse James out there.
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I don't know who's who.
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Apparently it was.
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I go, oh good.
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That'll be even better because I know I'll kick your ass.
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And by the way, that'll make us more money.
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So let's do this thing.
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Okay.
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And so then I get Joe Carnahan's a producer director.
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He's helped set it up.
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Like, this is really happening.
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We're going to do it at Beverly Hilton.
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We're going to make a million dollars to help Gold Star families and post-traumatic stress organization.
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It's great.
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It's great fun.
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And they go on that InfoWars show with Alex and say I'm a pussy and whatever.
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And they challenge me.
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I'm like, hey, they're promoting this.
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This is awesome.
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And all his fans are calling me names.
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This is just great.
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And then they pussed out.
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Why do they wish?
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Oh, because they realized...
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That everything they do, like Jesse James now sells guns, and that servant guy, he wrote a book called Gorilla Man or something, like, is about, like, he promotes, he says there's no such thing as date rape, and men are pussies now, and you got me to, everything they do, if they were on video getting their ass kicked by me, which would happen, just like my rabbi, unfortunately, then everything they do, say, It means nothing.
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Right.
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And that's what really happened.
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And so they would lose everything.
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So they whisked out on that.
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That's slightly different than the version that Mike Cernovich tells.
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A little bit!
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Also, I believe it way more.
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Absolutely.
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Also, I'll tell you this.
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We get to use that clip.
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Pardo headlined a show that I was emceeing at Zany's.
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And he talked shit about me for 20 minutes.
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So come at me, Pardo!
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Sure.
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All right, we got the...
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We got the implicit go-ahead.
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Also, how great would that be if we just end up in some sort of bizarre feud about using a clip of Tom Arnold talking shit on Cernovich?
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Ah, but I mean, there's a couple things in there that I fucking love, and that is that Tom Arnold does realize that Mike Cernovich going on Infowars...
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Calling Tom Arnold a pussy after they had already agreed to have a celebrity boxing match is just another version of promotion.
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He gets it.
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He gets that.
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Pro wrestling.
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And he perfectly assesses why they couldn't follow through.
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If Tom Arnold doesn't have his shit beat out of him, then...
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Like he said, the whole game is over.
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Even if it's close.
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Like, oh.
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Even if it's close, it's a disaster for Sarnovich.
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Imagine you got beat up by Tom Arnold.
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You got beat up by the star of The Stupids.
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If I did, I wouldn't feel bad about it.
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It would probably be like, eh.
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I would do it for the experience.
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I probably wouldn't.
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That would be fun.
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Do I get to go into a money tube afterwards?
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Anyway, I just like bringing...
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Yeah, you do.
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His rabbi has that set up on the side of the stage.
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Is that a stealth racist thing about Jews?
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It wasn't, but now I realize it sounds bad.
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Oh well.
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Anyway, I just like to bring up any time in pop culture we get...
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Evidence that these dudes are whack as fuck.
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Yeah.
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So, anyway.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Behind the scenes, they had already agreed to it, is what his point is.
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And then they back out.
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Yep.
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That is the most beta cuck move you can do.
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Especially Mike Cernovich challenging him and then getting biker Jesse James to stand in for him.
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Right.
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I use you as tribute.
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Right, right, right.
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Whatever, yeah.
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Like some sort of Game of Thrones shit.
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He wasn't calling the mountain, you know?
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Yeah, exactly.
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So...
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Let's get to the episode, Jordan.
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Yes, let's do it.
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We've had our fun, now let's get shit-faced and talk shit.
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We're going to start on September 6th, and that is a Sunday show, so we know that Alex Jones likes to launch soft narratives on his Sunday shows.
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And I feel like we've done a decent job of saying where we left off.
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The money bomb is coming up.
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Alex Jones is clearly needing money at the end of the fiscal year.
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He needs to try and raise a million dollars.
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And at this point, he has only said basically that he likes what Trump is saying, but he doesn't trust him, still loves Rand Paul.
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Yeah.
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There we go.
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We're up to speed.
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This September 6th, we're going to start exactly how Alex Jones starts the show.
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Every day I start the broadcast, and I'm just honest with you.
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Wow, we got a lot of news.
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And usually I cover about 20% of it.
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That is honest.
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Some days I cover 60-70% of it.
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Every once in a while I cover 90-something percent of it.
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Nope.
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Usually you cover about...
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Today's one of the days I really should cover all of it.
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8% of it?
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Maybe.
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Maybe 8. Yeah.
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Maybe a headline.
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Because when you look at this world, there are two types of people when you boil it all down.
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There's different subgroups, but there's dogs and there's cats.
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All right.
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Well, kill yourself.
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I got this article right here.
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Kill yourself right now.
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The National Post.
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Your cat doesn't love you.
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Scientific studies show.
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I don't need a scientific study to show me that my cat, and I do have one cat and two dogs, does not love me.
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Because no animal has ever loved you.
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It only wants to pretend I'm its mother and make biscuits on my stomach in an infantile manner.
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But it could care less if I fell down and died tomorrow.
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It doesn't have anxiety when I'm gone, except it wants to bitch and gripe and ask for food.
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It wants a free handout.
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My dogs, on the other hand, would basically die and have heart attacks.
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If something happened to me, and that's clear, and it's that spiritual connection, it's that honorableness of the dog, which isn't perfect, but it has honor.
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Silly and ignorant, but has guts, and guts is enough, is why I'm a dog person and not a cat person.
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Great.
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What was that?
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And people out there think they're getting ahead being cat people.
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Oh, it's still going?
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Oh, yeah.
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Folks that think they're getting ahead not caring about other folks, you think you're cool, only caring about yourself, you're an idiot.
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Yeah.
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It's like people that get in a hot tub and take a crap.
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And I hate to be gross here, but you think you're getting away with it.
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Go to the bathroom.
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When you crap on everyone else, you're crapping on yourself.
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And these are just elementary understandings here.
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Cats are not pack animals unless you look at lions in Africa and they still feed on each other.
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Dogs are creatures of honor, first and foremost.
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If I had to have an archetypal totem animal, it would be the dog.
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Cats are cute, cats are funny, but make no mistake, They won't be there for you when you're in a jam, and if somebody comes in your house and attacks you, they're not going to stand up for you.
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Dogs will.
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You don't hear about cops going to people's houses and shooting their cats, do you?
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It's the dog, because they're not cowards.
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Even if they're little or they're big, they stand up because they love you.
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And our society is imploding because we're becoming a cat society.
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Not a dog society.
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So this is Alex Jones trying to make a point about the world while, at the same time, trying to work out some material for a weekend he's doing in a shitty club.
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I was gonna say, this is a shitty 80s hack bit, right?
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Yeah, basically.
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Y 'all know the difference between dogs and cats.
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Yeah, man.
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Cats on one side, they be like this.
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Yeah, you said it.
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Dogs over here, they be walking like this!
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Oh, man.
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That's the truth.
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Oh, God.
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I love Def Jam.
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That's the truth.
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I love Def Jam comedy.
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That is terrible hacky nonsense.
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Yeah.
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And look, I got a cat.
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I know she doesn't really love me, but we have a complicated kind of love.
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You know, that's how cats and dogs are.
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Dogs are simple.
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Cats are complex.
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There we go.
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I don't know.
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Now I'm getting into it.
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Yeah, damn, there's two kinds of people in the world.
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Oh, boy.
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People who explain their love.
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I don't know.
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Who cares?
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I got nothing for that.
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That was dumb.
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That's just dumb.
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But that, I think, is an indication of how Alex often does, like, these Sunday shows are low stakes for him.
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Yeah.
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He knows that not many people are watching.
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And so he just kind of fills time, a lot of the Sunday shows.
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So why not start off the show with a five minute riff about why don't cops kill cats when they come to your house?
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I forgot, this is how he's starting the show.
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Right out of the gate.
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Right out of the gate.
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Look, sometimes I feel like I gotta get into all of this news today.
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Right.
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But let me tell you something about dog and cat people.
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Yeah.
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So, he doesn't stay on that theme for very long.
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Now, does he feel the same way about dog chimeras and cat chimeras?
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Interesting.
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I don't know.
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Do they take on the property?
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This is a very good...
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This is groundbreaking questions for Alex.
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Next week I'll call in the show.
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Do the animals take on the properties...
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Or do the people take on the properties of the animal that they're chimered with?
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I think they would have to.
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Do you?
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Yeah, I mean, there's got to be some sort of genetic influence from the host animal.
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Yeah, but the fish people have, you know...
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Sad human eyes.
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You don't know that fish aren't sad all the time.
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We have no idea about the psychology of fish.
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I don't know.
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They are pack animals.
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I don't know if fish are sad all the time.
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So Alex does not stay on this theme.
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That would be a really depressing thing.
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Scientists reveal that fish are all depressed all the time.
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They're bummed out.
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They like the flakes, but nothing else.
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So Alex doesn't stay on this theme for very long.
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Have you seen any cops killing your fish?
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That's a good point.
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He does get weird.
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There's a couple things he says on this show that I think are indefensibly weird.
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And I don't think...
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I don't think if pressed he could explain what the fuck he's talking about.
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And here is the first of those clips.
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And then they write books like Ecoscience and Bertrand Russell writes books from the 30s right through the 80s and the 90s bragging about it.
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These people think they're gods.
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And they say the public doesn't care.
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We must have the right to do it.
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You see, like you say, at a spiritual intergalactic level, at an interstellar level.
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There are rules just written on the universe by God.
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And if you don't protest something, if you don't say no to it, then you are acquiescing and accepting.
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That's really weird.
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On an interstellar level.
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Intergalactically.
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Intergalactic level.
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Both.
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He uses both of those words.
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How do we feel about McConaughey?
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He's great.
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God wrote that rule on the universe.
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McConaughey is pretty cool.
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Just keep living.
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Amen.
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That's what we do here.
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Yeah, that's super bizarre.
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He's basically expressing the belief that, you know, if you don't fight back against something, you consent to it.
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Yeah, and I don't disagree with him.
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I disagree with how he wants to direct that.
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But he's defeated.
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Like, he's...
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Denying the Nuremberg defense, basically.
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How so?
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Well, the idea that I was just taking orders is not an actual defense towards you putting Jews into a concentration camp.
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Right.
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You know, so the he is right.
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And and it's something that I've talked about or I talked about recently, which is every day that I'm not protesting the mistreatment of black people by.
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Fucking everything.
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The police in particular.
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Yeah, I am implicitly consenting to allowing this kind of worldview to exist.
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I think it's a little more complicated than that.
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Well, that's because you're a cat person.
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I don't think that there are universal rules and galactic rules that were written by God.
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Especially in the way that he's presenting it, because what he's saying is that these globalists, like Bertrand Russell, and the ecoscience he references...
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Yeah, I like how he's really bringing up the recent references.
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You know, Bertrand Russell, writing in the 30s.
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Right, and John P. Holdren's textbook, Ecoscience, he brings up, which you've discussed in the past, does not say the things that it says.
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He's saying that they are putting this out there, they're giving the information of what they're doing to you, and if you don't fight back, then you just accept it.
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And that's cockamamie because he's lying about what those things say.
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Yeah.
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Ecoscience, the textbook, doesn't say that they're putting things in the water.
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It doesn't say that they're trying to dumb down the population.
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It has nothing to do with that stuff.
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It's a fucking textbook.
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And they just...
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We've been over it.
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It doesn't matter.
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Yeah.
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Ugh, I hate him.
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Anyway.
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I'm still mad about the dog and cat thing.
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I'll tell you that.
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I couldn't even listen to that.
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Listen, that might have been pretty weird.
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Also, I'm telling you...
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Interstellar, the plot mechanics are not great.
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Okay.
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Great.
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Save it through when you're on Doug Loves Movies.
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I'm sorry.
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We gotta get a lot more listeners before that happens.
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Maybe.
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Next time he's at the Rosemont or whatever.
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There we go.
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Anyway, that clip was weird.
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But I'm telling you, this next clip is much weirder.
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I might have oversold how weird that clip is.
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I think it's fucking very weird that he believes that there's interstellar rules.
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That's very weird to me.
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This next clip, I think it's undeniably weird.
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Okay.
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And they think that people lining up to get their new iPhone, that's technology.
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No, that's 50-year-old crap.
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Exactly.
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The true technologies, they have it.
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The true technologies, our mind and our genetics that every scientist that's in genetic engineering understands isn't even of this world.
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We're made in the image of the creator that made this planet.
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We predate this planet.
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The elite all know that.
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They're just there dumbing the public down to not get it.
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We're not!
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We're not, like, seeking after the elves.
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We are the elves.
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And they know that.
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They can't stand it.
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They want to keep you from that knowledge.
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They're aware of what we are.
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They want to play God while we run around watching NFL.
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That's what the joke is.
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Yes.
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I don't have any favorite idols.
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My idol is myself, to tell you the truth.
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Well, my idol is human ingenuity and going to the stars and fulfilling God's destiny.
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And that's what we need to show our children and try and reach as many people as we can.
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I agree with you.
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God bless you.
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I got to jump.
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This is not an elite that would put stuff in vaccines to lower our IQ and put fluoride in the water to lower our IQ.
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An elite doesn't seek to dumb people down.
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Let's say the elite are some alien species.
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I'm not saying that, but let's just hypothetically.
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What type of elite alien species wants to dumb down a planet and make people a bunch of retarded idiots?
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You're not my god!
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A real god wants to build me up and give me Promethean fire!
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Not control me!
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Do you not know that goddamn reference?
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You are not god.
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You are fallen degenerate scum standing in the way of the true creation that dominates you.
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They hate humanity.
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They hate honor.
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They hate beauty.
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Hate creativity because we are their God.
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You understand that?
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The elite cannot stand true humanity.
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They will go to hell before they capture anything.
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They're a joke.
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They're only there to provide us with the stress to make us go to the next level.
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Just get that straight through your heads.
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They are fallen.
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They are failed.
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They are scum.
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So let them play their games.
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Let them win for the season.
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We win for eternity.
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Praise Jesus Christ.
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I don't mean to get so hardcore today, but I prayed last night at like 10 o 'clock at night.
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I said, God, just let me tell the truth.
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I am tired of backing down to these people.
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I'm tired of watching them have their way with humanity.
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Just turn me loose and turn humanity loose.
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Amy in Tennessee, you're on the air.
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Man, man, oh man.
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Amy in Tennessee, you are on the air.
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That is smooth as silk.
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So what do you think about that?
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Humans predate the earth.
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Well, yeah.
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I think most Christians believe that, right?
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I don't think so.
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I don't think that's nowhere near any kind of Christianity, right?
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That's not anywhere near anything outside of, like, the weirdest theosophy, like, the weirdest pseudo-spiritualism.
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I mean, I guess there is a little bit of...
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And on the seventh day, God rested, and then he went back to the negative first day, and he was like, well, I might as well create humans here, too.
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I mean, why not?
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It goes into a little bit of vaguely Gnostic beliefs.
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There is a tiny bit of the idea of pieces of your spirit predate humanity.
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That sort of thing.
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A little bit of Tolkien.
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A little bit of elves.
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And a little bit of internet message board Illuminati talk.
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That goes back to a lot of that stuff.
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And the idea that he presents that these globalists...
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All they're there for is to be a challenge for us to get to the next level.
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That's a fairly common belief within Christianity, though.
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That idea that this life is a test.
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Right, but it also goes to the ideas that have been pitched on internet message boards about the Illuminati.
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So with all of the bullshit that we deal with, every time he gets into that weird religious aspect...
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He just has so much more of a ring of truth to him.
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When he's saying we're not seeking the elves, we are the elves.
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Yeah.
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It feels like he believes that.
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Right.
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And that's speaking in parable.
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Yeah.
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That's like, if you guys understand.
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You get it.
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You get...
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You way get it.
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Yeah.
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You maybe get it too much.
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I wonder if he's talking about the DMT machine elves.
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You know, when people take DMT, they often see machine elves.
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I don't know what that means at all.
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Dimethyltryptamine is a substance that you can take.
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It's a very powerful hallucinogen.
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Uh-huh.
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And you can smoke it.
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And when you do, a lot of people...
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I don't know what the percentages are.
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And I haven't taken it myself.
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But a lot of people report...
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Well, we started drinking wine, so I suppose the next episode we're going to have to do DMT.
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It lasts for like 10 minutes and we could never record on it.
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You can't move.
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You're just hallucinating so hard.
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Maybe you can move a little.
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Who cares?
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But a lot of people report that they see elves working gears and machinery.
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And some people have speculated that behind the veil of reality, like DMT allows you to see beyond.
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Pierce the veal.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And you see that there are elves who are working the machinery of reality that create whatever we see in our reality.
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Oh, yeah.
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Well, that's obvious, though.
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Where else would we get cookies?
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From those trees.
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Those trees that have elf factories.
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Look, let's not go any further down this road.
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Okay, okay, fine.
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Let's try and stay on topic.
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Right, right.
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We're still in the sixth.
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You've already established that we're doing an eight and a half hour long episode.
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Never drinking wine on the show ever again.
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This is already off the rails.
► 00:29:22
So, on the 6th, Alex Jones does a lot of that weird stuff, and then, in addition to that, we start to see this creeping pro-Russia stance.
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Oh, we're starting to see it now.
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Well, no, we've already seen the beginnings of it starting to come out.
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Right, right, right.
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No, but that was more like pro-strongman.
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Russia is male.
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Pro-man taking, bah, that whole thing.
► 00:29:47
We're starting to see a little bit more of it.
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And here's what he has to say about Russia and Assad.
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And then we see the shocking images of a drowned Syrian boy show tragic plight of refugees.
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Our government five years ago launches Al Qaeda in Syria, kills 300,000 of these innocent people.
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And then when Russia and Syria fight back, we call them terrorists.
► 00:30:09
And our own media says that, quote, take out Assad, that'll stop ISIS when that's a group attacking.
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And they show a dead little two-year-old toddler.
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in the sand, but they won't show them.
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Fuck you.
► 00:30:20
Tens of thousands of dead babies that I've seen online.
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Fuck you.
► 00:30:23
And you've seen online that were killed by Western-backed rebels in Syria.
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So they create the crisis and then say, look, a dead baby.
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Yeah.
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Look.
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That's crazy.
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Compare that.
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Compare that bullshit fake empathy with when somebody, like when a terrorist attack happens and he revels in all of the people who died, saying, look at how right I am.
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And then he pretends to give a fuck about that.
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Nope.
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No!
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He doesn't get to own both empathy and complete sociopathy.
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That doesn't count.
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Fair.
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That's a fake voice.
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Oh, yeah.
► 00:31:10
That's a fake bullshit.
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Oh, yeah.
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No, I'm not cool with that.
► 00:31:13
Well, are you cool with the fact that he's saying that basically Russia and Assad are the good guys?
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Oh, of course.
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Okay.
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Well, actually, you know, that was the 6th.
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And then on the 7th is Labor Day.
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So he doesn't have a show on Labor Day.
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They just do a rerun show.
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And so, you know, no need to dwell on that.
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I'm glad he supports union holidays.
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Well, I think he actually...
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I'm sure that he loves the free market and prosperity so much that he has to be like, well, thank God we have a day to celebrate unions.
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He does actually make a little bit of a point of that.
► 00:31:44
Oh, really?
► 00:31:44
Yeah, the fact that we still celebrate this union holiday.
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I've got to give my people a day off.
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Anyway, we come back on the 8th, and guess what?
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He's still on his bullshit about Russia being the good guys.
► 00:31:56
But as you can see, I'm particularly crazed today because this is the reality of what's happening.
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And then I look at all the other news, all the other things that are happening.
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U.S. demands Greece closed airspace to Russian humanitarian aid for Syria when they're only flying them in food, and Russia's doing us a favor.
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See, I mean, that's not to say that that in and of itself is an evil thing to say.
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It's not wrong to say that Russia does some good things, some bad things.
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But we're seeing a pattern developing over the course of early September of just outright, Russia's the good guys, we're the bad guys.
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And it's really bizarre.
► 00:32:43
It's really bizarre considering Alex Jones' past.
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As we've discussed, he played into so much Russophobia in his early career.
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And the last time Russia did us a favor was in World War II.
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That was the very last time.
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Yeah.
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So, I don't know.
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I don't know what to make of it.
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It is really interesting that if we look at the timeline of the world, it seems like summer, fall of...
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2005 is when something...
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2015.
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Yeah, excuse me.
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2015 is when something really fucked up happened.
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I think that that might be the branching point when our world could have gone one way or the other and we went the wrong way.
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That's our dark timeline.
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It just so happens that that's when Alex Jones is starting to warm to Trump, happens to be saying tons of positive shit about Russia and Assad on his show.
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I don't know.
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I don't have a conclusion, but it's weird.
► 00:33:39
The thing that I think about pretty consistently is what's the balance between Putin taking advantage of a situation and Putin instigating the situation, right?
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So all of these guys right now in 2015 are just starting to be like, well, look at this strongman doing shit.
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Now, how much of that is...
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Russian propaganda seeping out, and then Putin going, or if not Putin himself directly, but his circle of oligarchs saying, this is something we can take advantage of, and how much is directly his, like, look at what I did.
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Like, that kind of a shit, you know?
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I think, as it relates to Alex, he's taking in, like, RT and Sputnik, and he's getting the Russian line as the truth, because it's more appealing to him.
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He has this idea that it's a masculine culture, and that they've kicked out the globalists, and therefore their media is obviously much more reliable than ours.
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Ours is just full of propagandists and CIA plants that are in the media, and so he just...
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Has no reason to doubt things that come from their outlets.
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So I think that's a piece of it.
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It's mind-boggling to try and see through these people's eyes.
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It's very weird.
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Because that seems...
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It could not be more obvious that RT is a state-controlled media outlet that only shows what the state wants you to see.
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Yeah.
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Like, it can't be more obvious.
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So how can you not catch it?
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I don't know.
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The way is you don't want to.
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Well, yeah, you're absolutely right.
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It doesn't fit with what you...
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I mean, I do understand, though, because if you've built your entire life...
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Like, if you're Alex Jones, in 2015, he's 40-ish.
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Maybe a hundred.
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Who knows?
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Yeah, he's timeless.
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His soul has migrated.
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Exactly.
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He's talking with his ancestors.
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So you've built your entire life around this ethos.
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Globalism.
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And just like you said, we have this splitting point.
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Dark timeline versus the light timeline.
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Yeah.
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Wherein either all of these people really confront themselves and say, what I've believed for the longest length of time is wrong.
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Or they double down.
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They double down.
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And of course they double down.
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Well, at least in the case of Alex, certainly.
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I can't speak to whatever is happening with political figures and shit like that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But in terms of Alex, yeah, he's like, oh.
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I would actually say that the entire politics of 2015 was the firm cementing of there will never be a shared reality again.
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Oh, totally.
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Totally.
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It started when Fox News started.
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Fuck off, man.
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It started like Reagan, probably.
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You know what?
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You're absolutely right.
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I don't know if it was even before that.
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That was when the billionaire campaign of lobbying really took off.
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Yeah.
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But that, I feel like, is whenever it's like, this is how it's going to be forever.
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Yeah.
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I agree that it's where things ramped up to a horrifying extent.
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I think it's because people realized that an election was coming up.
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Yeah.
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And they realized that...
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It was win or lose at that point.
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Yeah, and the trends in society that we could see were like, well, if something doesn't happen, Democrats are never going to lose another election because that's just the way society is going.
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People are becoming more progressive.
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People are becoming more accepting, more opening.
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And that is what the Democratic Party largely represents, especially over the Republican Party.
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And unless a third viable party were to exist...
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There doesn't seem like there's any shot there.
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And the GOP really embraced it because they were the ones who realized that the only way we win elections is to lean into being the white supremacist party.
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Because if you look at that...
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The GOP autopsy that they did on the 2012 election.
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It was all about, we need to return back to the Big Ten.
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We need to expand.
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We need to find more Latino voters.
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We need to do all of this stuff.
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And they took none of that advice.
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And didn't need to.
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And didn't need to.
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Because they gerrymandered the hell out of shit.
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Exactly.
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And purged voter rolls, blah, blah, blah.
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They went straight to white supremacy.
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Yeah.
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And God bless them.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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No.
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Elves bless them.
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God bless them because they give us something to fight back against.
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They are the Illuminati of our...
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And that's how we grow.
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That's how we grow as people.
► 00:38:27
So on the 8th, Alex Jones has a long interview.
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That and genetic memory.
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That's also how we grow as people.
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That's how you learn.
► 00:38:34
Anthony Gucci already comes in for a really long interview about how great their products are and about how terrible immigrants are.
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They're trying to...
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They're hitting both at the same time?
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They're trying to scare people about the immigrant waves that are going to come while simultaneously, you know, being like, all our products are fucking awesome.
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They're spending way more time on the show trying to sell stuff.
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Like, you know, we have these periodic visits from Dr. Group who comes in for, like, these hour-long sessions.
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And now we're seeing, like, Anthony Gucciardi is on almost every day doing something.
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To try and sell product.
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Yeah.
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And that is not unremarkable.
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It's part of the lead up to the money bomb.
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Especially if we're in the money bomb.
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Yeah.
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In the money bomb world we exist in, it's going to ramp up and ramp up hard.
► 00:39:19
Yeah.
► 00:39:19
So after that, Alex Jones has an interview with John McAfee.
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Who created- McAfee.
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McAfee Security.
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The McAfee.
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Yes.
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The guy who infects every Windows computer with junkware.
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That'd be him.
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He's also the guy who may or may not have murdered his neighbor in South America.
► 00:39:36
Wait, what?
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I don't know if this is the case.
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His neighbor wound up dead and he fled.
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He was living down south of the border and his neighbor ended up dead and he was being pursued by the police.
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I don't know if he did it.
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I have no idea, but I do know that he fled.
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And then his house burned down.
► 00:39:59
Wait, and then his house burned down?
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As I understand the timeline, yes.
► 00:40:03
I admit I haven't done a ton of research into it, but McAfee is a wild dude.
► 00:40:09
He's a wild dude.
► 00:40:10
McAfee did that shit.
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I'm not ready to say that.
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That's on you, man.
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That's on you.
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McAfee is the OJ of...
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Computer software.
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And weird goatees.
► 00:40:21
Never seen his face.
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He has a weird goatee.
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Good for him.
► 00:40:24
So McAfee is on and Alex is trying to get the exclusive out of him that he's running for president.
► 00:40:31
John McAfee.
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And Alex is super excited about it because McAfee has a deep libertarian past and what have you.
► 00:40:37
Right.
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And anybody who...
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Like a lot of those software giants do.
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Sure.
► 00:40:40
A lot of those guys have a full-on, like, we're going to build our own utopia out of Uber.
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Why not?
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If you can create a world online, why couldn't you create a world in the real world?
► 00:40:50
That's a good point.
► 00:40:51
So Alex is super excited about it because anyone who pays attention to Alex would make a great president, obviously.
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So he's...
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McAfee is being like, his whole storyline is, my aides, they went out and they filed paperwork for me to run for president.
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I don't know if I'm going to run for president.
► 00:41:09
And Alex is like, are you giving us the exclusive?
► 00:41:11
Are you going to announce here on Infowars that you're running for president?
► 00:41:14
And he's like, I can give you the exclusive that they filed some papers.
► 00:41:19
Fuck you, man.
► 00:41:19
That's really not a great exclusive.
► 00:41:21
He keeps being like, if I run, I'm going to win.
► 00:41:26
Then why don't you run?
► 00:41:27
He didn't run and he didn't win.
► 00:41:28
But in the middle of their interview, Alex Jones says this and it really troubles me.
► 00:41:33
That's why I like Ted Nugent is he's real.
► 00:41:37
And I know nothing against the NRA.
► 00:41:38
They used to be really bad 10 years ago.
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Now they're really good.
► 00:41:42
We've got to radicalize the liberty movement because we face a radical globalist threat.
► 00:41:47
Milk toasting it won't beat it.
► 00:41:49
I really am scared of that mentality because all of his...
► 00:41:52
That's exactly what he did.
► 00:41:53
Because all of his stuff is based on lies and fear.
► 00:41:57
It's not based on reality.
► 00:41:59
So he perceives an extreme enemy that he's up against, and therefore it's okay for him to radicalize his base.
► 00:42:05
Yeah, of course.
► 00:42:06
Which is essentially what terrorists do.
► 00:42:08
Yeah, that's exactly what terrorists do.
► 00:42:10
I mean, the thing is...
► 00:42:14
ISIS has a better argument than he does for radicalizing their base.
► 00:42:19
With stopping short of advocating anything ISIS does, looking at it purely, just on a logic basis, their argument does make more sense.
► 00:42:29
They're fighting a real enemy.
► 00:42:33
Their desired goals are terrible.
► 00:42:36
Yeah.
► 00:42:36
And those don't make sense.
► 00:42:37
No.
► 00:42:38
But the idea of fighting back certainly does.
► 00:42:40
Oh, of course.
► 00:42:41
Especially in their situation.
► 00:42:42
And the idea of extreme measures.
► 00:42:44
Imagine if we had a terrorist group that was fighting against an imaginary enemy.
► 00:42:52
Without explosives, we do.
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We do.
► 00:42:56
We absolutely do.
► 00:42:57
It's the liberty movement.
► 00:42:58
Yeah.
► 00:42:59
Was radicalized partly by Alex Jones.
► 00:43:02
Partly.
► 00:43:02
I mean, he's the most mainstream voice of the people who radicalized them.
► 00:43:06
Behind the scenes, there are tons of those websites.
► 00:43:08
There's a whole Byzantine network of monsters out there.
► 00:43:12
But yeah, he does.
► 00:43:13
He's responsible for a lot of terrible shit.
► 00:43:16
In the end of this episode, we get a phone call from Old Man House Phone.
► 00:43:20
He calls back in.
► 00:43:23
I love me some old man house phone.
► 00:43:25
I did not pull a clip from it because it's boring, but he wants to talk to John McAfee about guns.
► 00:43:30
That's fun.
► 00:43:32
It's just important to point out whenever house phone calls in.
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Okay.
► 00:43:38
So we move on to the 10th.
► 00:43:40
Hold on, let me back up real quick.
► 00:43:42
I'm sorry, the 9th.
► 00:43:44
I think I've forgotten.
► 00:43:47
Has Rapoport showed up?
► 00:43:48
No.
► 00:43:49
John Rapoport is not in the mix.
► 00:43:50
Rapoport is still not in the mix.
► 00:43:51
Not in the mix.
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And I'll tell you, to the end of this, past the money bomb, still not there.
► 00:43:55
Still not in the mix.
► 00:43:56
No.
► 00:43:56
Let's move on, Jordan, to September 9th.
► 00:43:59
On this show, Alex Jones is very obsessed with a story out of Pittsburgh, where a gentleman, he runs a barber shop, and he got fined $750 for refusing to cut the hair of a lady.
► 00:44:11
Okay, man.
► 00:44:12
Because it's a dude's barber shop!
► 00:44:16
And Alex is furious about this.
► 00:44:17
Like barbershop, like the movie Barbershop, or barbershop like a white dude in a small town?
► 00:44:22
Second one.
► 00:44:23
There we go.
► 00:44:24
I was going to say, I doubt the first one's showing up on Infowars.
► 00:44:27
No.
► 00:44:28
A lady went into the shop and they said, we are not going to get, you can't come in here.
► 00:44:33
And so she was like, alright, I'm going to complain about this.
► 00:44:36
And he got fined $750.
► 00:44:39
Alex Jones presents it as, hey, these guys just don't have the technology to cut ladies' hair.
► 00:44:44
You know, like, they don't know how to do it, and there's a reasonable point to be made there, but if you actually look into the story, you can find that this dude is basically running the man show out of a barber shop, and his reason for not wanting to, like, serve a woman who came in was less about, I don't know how to cut your hair, and it was more predicated on, this is where dudes go to hang out.
► 00:45:07
Oh.
► 00:45:08
He ends up calling in, and they have an interview on a later show where he's like, Men come in here to have a beer and make jokes and fart.
► 00:45:17
And they can't do that if ladies are in here.
► 00:45:19
I'm like, you should have gotten fined.
► 00:45:21
Yeah, don't call yourself a business then.
► 00:45:22
Call yourself a clubhouse.
► 00:45:24
Like, what are you doing?
► 00:45:25
Yeah, that mentality is...
► 00:45:27
Put your shit up in a tree, you idiot.
► 00:45:29
What is this, the little rascals?
► 00:45:31
What's happening?
► 00:45:31
Absolutely.
► 00:45:32
But the reason that Alex Jones has a leg to stand on in terms of his complaints is that he doesn't really necessarily believe...
► 00:45:39
That businesses should have to serve everybody.
► 00:45:42
Yeah, that's true.
► 00:45:43
I believe that based on his libertarian beliefs, if pressed, he would say that a business could deny service to African Americans if they wanted to.
► 00:45:51
And the free market would sort it out.
► 00:45:53
Right, exactly.
► 00:45:53
Even though it has been conclusively proven for all of time that the free market would not sort it out.
► 00:45:59
And the last great example of that was, of course, Chick-fil-A.
► 00:46:02
Yeah.
► 00:46:02
Did not work out.
► 00:46:03
Yeah.
► 00:46:04
Didn't do shit.
► 00:46:05
But that is what is behind his sort of support of this barbershop.
► 00:46:09
And it's super whack if you actually look at the details.
► 00:46:12
But who cares?
► 00:46:12
That'd be more.
► 00:46:13
It's more interesting to me if the guy really just doesn't know how to cut ladies hair.
► 00:46:20
Sure.
► 00:46:20
That was his excuse for it.
► 00:46:22
Like if his defense in court was like, dude, I never actually went to school.
► 00:46:29
I don't know how to cut this lady's hair.
► 00:46:33
I'm just gonna fuck up her hair.
► 00:46:34
Yeah.
► 00:46:35
Then I'd be like, oh, yeah, fair.
► 00:46:37
I mean, that's borderline reasonable.
► 00:46:40
Yeah.
► 00:46:41
But his position is not.
► 00:46:43
No.
► 00:46:44
So, something way more important.
► 00:46:47
This is only where I cut hair of dicks.
► 00:46:50
Yeah.
► 00:46:50
Something way more important happens on the September 9th show.
► 00:46:54
Yeah.
► 00:46:54
That day, or the day before, Donald Trump came out and said some stuff about immigrants.
► 00:47:01
And...
► 00:47:02
Alex Jones has a very strong response to it, and it might not be what you expect.
► 00:47:08
We're going to go out to break with Donald Trump, saying we've got to accept the immigrants.
► 00:47:12
You know, he tells the truth about these Arab countries and African countries won't take them, but that we've got to because we have the moral high ground.
► 00:47:20
The whole world's collapsing into depression.
► 00:47:22
We can't take billions of people, especially if they're put on welfare.
► 00:47:26
This is suicide.
► 00:47:27
Let's go to the clip.
► 00:47:29
Well, it's a serious problem.
► 00:47:31
We haven't seen anything like it since the Second World War, and it's getting worse and worse.
► 00:47:36
And I was actually impressed in one way, but surprised that Merkel in Germany allowed this to happen because they're really flowing through all over Europe.
► 00:47:44
And if you notice, Russia's not taking, and China's not taking, and the Gulf states, whether you look at Saudi Arabia or Qatar or any of them, they're taking none.
► 00:47:55
But some of them are, and some of them are actually being very generous.
► 00:48:00
It just, really, I wonder, you know, where all these...
► 00:48:03
Really, Donald, being generous with the Germans that pay some of the highest taxes in Europe, or the French that pay 84% on average for people to come in and get put on welfare?
► 00:48:16
I mean, you read the scams that third-world immigrants run all across the place.
► 00:48:22
Somalis up in Minnesota.
► 00:48:24
Afghans in Germany.
► 00:48:26
I mean, they just don't pay the taxes.
► 00:48:28
They do whatever they want.
► 00:48:30
They run black market operations and they get welfare.
► 00:48:34
And then, oh, I want to commend Merkel.
► 00:48:36
She's so generous.
► 00:48:37
Hey, Trump, shut your fat mouth, you punk.
► 00:48:40
I knew you'd start flipping.
► 00:48:42
Whoa!
► 00:48:42
My gut told me something.
► 00:48:43
How about you give your $5 billion to them?
► 00:48:47
Okay?
► 00:48:49
Holy shit!
► 00:48:50
I'm telling you, man.
► 00:48:51
He was against abortion, then he was for it, then he was against it, all the rest of it.
► 00:48:55
He loves Hillary Clinton.
► 00:48:57
Whoa.
► 00:48:58
Wow, is that intense.
► 00:48:59
So, this is bizarre.
► 00:49:02
That is wild.
► 00:49:04
Yeah.
► 00:49:05
Alex Jones has taken an anti-Donald Trump stance on September 9th, 2015.
► 00:49:10
That's more...
► 00:49:11
Like, vitriol, that's more passionate.
► 00:49:14
He called him a punk.
► 00:49:15
Yeah, once you shut your fat mouth, that's more interested.
► 00:49:18
That's exactly what he said to Schiff.
► 00:49:21
He just didn't say, fill your hand.
► 00:49:23
Yeah, goddamn cocksucker.
► 00:49:25
Yeah.
► 00:49:26
Well, like, that is more passionate than all of the stuff he said about his mob ties and shit like that in the past episodes we've gone over.
► 00:49:33
That's super bizarre.
► 00:49:35
Yeah.
► 00:49:36
That, I don't know what to make of that, quite frankly.
► 00:49:38
The moment Trump is not a white supremacist.
► 00:49:40
Yeah.
► 00:49:40
Wow.
► 00:49:41
Yeah.
► 00:49:42
How do...
► 00:49:43
What?
► 00:49:44
How are we still doing...
► 00:49:46
It should be over by now!
► 00:49:48
Totally.
► 00:49:49
What?
► 00:49:49
There's so many goddamn twists and turns.
► 00:49:51
Yeah.
► 00:49:52
So on this show, after this, he has an interview with the sheriff.
► 00:49:55
The guy who's...
► 00:49:56
He's not the sheriff.
► 00:49:57
Just the sheriff?
► 00:49:58
Like a Cormac McCarthy character?
► 00:50:01
Yes.
► 00:50:01
He has an interview with a judge whose eyes are burning fire.
► 00:50:05
He has an interview with a guy who's running for sheriff in Houston.
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Okay.
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And this guy is nuts.
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He says that he thinks that Obama is creating racial strife in order to cancel the 2016 elections.
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Spoiler alert, he does not win the election for sheriff.
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God damn it if...
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Oh, man.
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If Obama had just canceled him...
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Good stuff.
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We'd have to deal with the militia uprising, but I think that would be easier.
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We could have gotten the revolution out of the way pretty quick and then just moved on.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So after that, he has an interview with Ted Nugent.
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The Nuge calls in.
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he put up the nude signal on the past day when he was talking to john mcafee you heard that in the little clip there yeah he's like i was just honest he's real he's like i haven't talked to the nude in a while so he gets nude to call in yeah and he talks about how uh his show on the sportsman channel has been canceled and it's because everybody's afraid of guns he's got the best ratings ever and i don't think any of that's true i think it's just a convenient way for them to play victim about And it's very boring.
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So...
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Like, it's hard for them to find an excuse to play victim about the Second Amendment.
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Yeah.
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Also, I would like to wonder, why was Alex saying that ten years ago the NRA was very bad and now it's very good?
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Oh, because they weren't that extreme about the Second Amendment.
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They had gone into a period where they were sort of kowtowing to anti-gun interests and being like, well, maybe you don't need semi-automatics.
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Maybe you're right.
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Maybe that is reasonable.
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And because of these other people, these more extreme gun groups, the NRA got molded into a more extreme organization.
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Okay.
► 00:51:45
And Alex believes that gun people should be on the offensive.
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And actually he has an interview later on.
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Man, hearing that sentence does not make me feel good.
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Later on.
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Gun people should be on the offensive is the problem with America.
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It's pretty scary.
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He later has an interview with a guy who runs a, like, Citizens for Gun Rights organization that Ted Nugent was involved with, and it's a little bit scary, and they make some very false claims, but we'll deal with that a little bit down the road.
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So, on the 9th, Alex had that thing where he called Trump a punk.
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Yeah.
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Then, on the 10th, Trump backpedaled a little bit on his, man, maybe the immigrants, maybe we don't have to take as many, and Alex was like, wow, good, he's backpedaling.
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But he was just mad because he changed his mind about stuff.
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Right.
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His pure anger was about the fact that he flip-flops on dumb positions.
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And he's like, I called it all along.
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I knew there was a reason not to trust you.
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Yeah, and then whenever he changes his mind again, he's like, well, okay, now we're back on board.
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Yeah, he's back, pal, and that's good.
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It's very weird.
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Wow.
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It's super bizarre.
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That's bananas.
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Yeah, so on this episode on the 10th, he has Mark Dice.
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He has a video where Mark Dice goes out to the streets and tries to get people to sign a petition.
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To ban the sale of the Bible on Amazon and at Barnes& Noble.
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God damn it.
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Mark Dice is the worst.
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Yeah, but here's the thing.
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A lot of people sign it, but you can tell.
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Again, it's a thing where they're like, fine, fuck, I'll just sign it, leave me alone.
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Right.
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But then beyond that, based on free market, based on Alex Jones' sort of libertarian beliefs, you should be able to not sell the Bible.
► 00:53:19
Yeah, if you can refuse service to a lady getting a haircut, you should be able to refuse selling the Bible.
► 00:53:25
I don't understand where the line between your belief in religious supremacism and libertarian...
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What is more important to you?
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Religious baiting or your principles?
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Your phony-ass principles?
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It's insane.
► 00:53:39
So Mark Dice almost gets into a fight with a guy on the street.
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Alright, now I'm in.
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Now I'm way in.
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Some guy is really mad at him because he's trying to ban the Bible.
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But again, it's not Ban the Bible.
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It's just, don't sell it on Amazon or at Barnes& Noble.
► 00:53:54
Wait, so...
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So somebody got really mad at him.
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Yeah.
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Why did they leave it in the fucking clip?
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Because the guy gets really mad at him, and he's like, no, no, no.
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Hey, look, I'm doing a hidden camera show.
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We're trying to point out that people are stupid for signing this.
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And the guy's like, I don't believe you.
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Fuck off.
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And then Mark Dice chases him down, and he's like, no, man, no, no, no.
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You get it.
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Look, the camera's right over there.
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It's so desperate and sad.
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Wow.
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Yeah, it's awful.
► 00:54:17
That's pathetic.
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Yeah, Mark Dice is the worst.
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That's really sad.
► 00:54:20
Alex Jones tells a story about harassing a lady at the hike and bike trail because she had a bumper sticker.
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Which is nonsense.
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That's better than elves are we are elves.
► 00:54:30
I'm just giving you a rundown of stuff because we can't possibly cover everything.
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But man, that one was wild.
► 00:54:38
We've already spent an hour and a half on two clips.
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I don't believe the story about it.
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Harassing this lady at the hike and bike trail?
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I think it's made up.
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But even in his made up story, he's still a dick.
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What is he doing at the hike and bike trail?
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He's there all the time.
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What?
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He's taking his kids there all the time.
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He tells stories about the hike and bike trail at least every third episode.
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Well, maybe he's not a terrible father.
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Maybe.
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Give him his kids back.
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When he was...
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He has some custody.
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When you tell him that story about the immigrants who were fishing and cooking the fish outside, that was at the hike and bike trail.
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That was at the hike and bike trail.
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He later gets an ear infection from the lake at the hike and bike trail.
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He misses two days of work because of it.
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But he uses it as an opportunity to sell Silver Bullet.
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His colloidal silver product.
► 00:55:26
Oh, okay.
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Dude, at this point, when you say he uses it as an opportunity to sell silver bullet, I'm halfway like, does he think werewolves are real?
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He might.
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So we're in the 10th.
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Werewolves are the original Chimera.
► 00:55:42
Alex Jones has a lot of really bad stuff in the next couple days.
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And here is one of those things.
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I tell ya.
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You talk about...
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A death wish.
► 00:55:57
But see, the criminals that run Europe that have hijacked it can get away with this.
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They can get away with anything.
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So it's not just a fetish to smear garbage all over Europe.
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I got stacks of articles of women being pulled out of cars, raped, children being raped.
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They're like, well, that's part of the radical Islamic culture to rape your daughter.
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You see, They're kicking out of their countries, their poorest, their most criminal, their most degenerate, their most mentally ill.
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And a bunch of 18-year-old, 20-year-old troublemaker crooks and ISIS people that folks don't want in their countries anymore.
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We have them posting on their Facebook.
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I'm here.
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I'm in Berlin.
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Look at me.
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I'm a jihadi.
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I fought.
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I caught a bunch of Christians' heads off.
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Come hang out with me, ladies.
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And a lot of the German women turn into trendy TV and stuff and go, absolutely.
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And that's the cool thing is to get, you know.
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Beat up by a gangbanger or, you know, have his name tattooed all over him.
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Or the next best thing is to be, you know, slapped around and put in a slave pit by a radical jihad.
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I mean, they got all these women, teenagers all over the world getting on airplanes and flooding to go be in dirt shacks and raped by over 100 men.
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Then, of course, they're begging for mommy and daddy after, but that doesn't happen.
► 00:57:14
You just get taken out of the field and shot in the back of the head.
► 00:57:17
What is he fucking talking about?
► 00:57:18
Gloria Steinem loves it, and so is Rachel Maddow.
► 00:57:20
Steinem does not love that.
► 00:57:22
Why don't you go over there and hang out with your little jihadi pals that little CIA Anderson Cooper promoted in the last four years as the Arab Spring run by the filthy White House.
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That's so close to a Dennis Miller.
► 00:57:34
The Arab Spring is run by the White House?
► 00:57:37
The Arab Spring was run by the White House, according to Alex, yes.
► 00:57:40
Okay.
► 00:57:41
And the CIA was behind it, and Anderson Cooper has a past with the CIA.
► 00:57:45
Yeah.
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And ergo, he was not really over there overseas in his capacity as a CNN reporter.
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He was, I don't know.
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Inciting.
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Yeah, I guess so.
► 00:57:53
The Arab Spring, I guess?
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There are a couple stories that have come out of people, like young white girls going to join ISIS.
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Yeah.
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In the same way that there are a couple of stories that have come out of young white dudes who've gone over to join.
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Yeah.
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And it generally does not end up all that well.
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No.
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There are also stories of the opposite as well.
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Absolutely.
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People going to join the actual Syrian resistance and fight against.
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the horrific Assad.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Or even trying to come here as refugees.
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Yeah.
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Oh, crazy.
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But yeah, that...
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What he does is he takes, like, again, it's these kernels.
► 00:58:32
It's these, like, one or two stories that have come out, and he embellishes it to be, like, there's thousands of young white girls who just want to go get beat by a Muslim, because that's cool.
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These trendy women just want to, it's so disgusting.
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Well, there is a Pornhub channel.
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I can tell you this.
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There's not.
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There is definitely not.
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I just wanted to make you snort.
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That's bad.
► 00:59:00
Your impulse and his.
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Both bad.
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But it has nothing on this next clip.
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Oh, no.
► 00:59:06
This is the first of two very severe historical misrepresentations that Alex makes that we'll discuss on today's show.
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And I think it's probably the worst of the two.
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I'll let you decide.
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Because Hitler was a project of the elites in this country.
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I'm already out.
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I'm already out.
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And they shut Hitler up.
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Hitler was not good, by the way.
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But it's beyond what they tell you.
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Hitler was bad.
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Got it.
► 00:59:30
Roosevelt wouldn't take the Jews because the liberal Jewish groups in New York City said they hadn't paid a ransom to them to get out.
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And I've had Dr. Pachenik on, who was a Jew who lost family in Europe when they fled to Cuba.
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They fled to Cuba on a boat.
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Right after he was born.
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Because New York City wouldn't take him because the Jews said, you didn't pay up.
► 00:59:59
Oh, is it Andy Smith that doesn't want to kill Jews?
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I guess it is, isn't it?
► 01:00:02
If I was a real Nazi collaborator, then it would be okay if I was George Soros or Arnold Schwarzenegger that wears Nazi uniforms and says he wants to be Hitler.
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That's okay.
► 01:00:11
But if I point out that the evil, corrupt people like George Soros, who was involved then, but people above him, They robbed the Jews and sucked off the Jews and told them, you either pay a ransom or you go to Israel.
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And then when they said, okay, we'll go to Israel, they said, still you're going to pay a ransom.
► 01:00:31
The average ransom calculates out to $1 million today.
► 01:00:36
And all the poor Jews or the middle class Jews that didn't have it, they got sent to be murdered.
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And then the very Jews that helped murder them.
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Sit around and create a Holocaust narrative and project it on as guilt onto the American people as the national narrative as if we were involved in it.
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As if the average American that fought Hitler or whose grandfathers fought Hitler was bad.
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So we have to let that same Jewish mafia that helped kill the Jews with Hitler engage in all these criminal activities or we're anti-Semitic?
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I say feel your hand, Nazi-loving scum, and go straight to hell where you came from.
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My friends, it is official.
► 01:01:18
We can now say that Alex Jones is a Holocaust denier.
► 01:01:21
Wow.
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Or at least a Holocaust revisionist.
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Un...wow.
► 01:01:26
That's pretty wild stuff.
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Unreal.
► 01:01:28
So if you look into it, there are a bunch, you know, like, there were people who were able to make bribes to get themselves out.
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Of Nazi-occupied territory.
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Yeah, not to New York City Jews.
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You could get out of camps if you bribe people with a lot of money because they're evil, but they want some money.
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Everybody's got to get paid.
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Right.
► 01:01:48
Alex is extrapolating that to be like, oh, it was Jewish groups who were keeping these poor Jews in these camps to be killed because they didn't pay up.
► 01:01:57
That's amazing.
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Because that plays on anti-Semitic tropes.
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Yep.
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It plays on a kernel of truth in the sense that some people were able to buy their way out.
► 01:02:08
And it does play on the fact that America absolutely denied Jewish refugees.
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You know why?
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Because of the same...
► 01:02:17
Fucking type of people who are denying Muslim refugees now!
► 01:02:21
So that's why they're rewriting this goddamn history.
► 01:02:25
So they can't, so it's like, well, it wasn't us.
► 01:02:28
We're the ones who aren't fucking bringing it.
► 01:02:30
No, that's fucking bullshit.
► 01:02:32
If Alex had been around in the 1930s, he would have screamed about how Jews shouldn't be allowed in there.
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Too dangerous.
► 01:02:40
Because they're German.
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They're German.
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They're secret Nazis.
► 01:02:44
That fucking bullshit.
► 01:02:46
What better way to sneak Nazis into America than for them to be Jewish?
► 01:02:51
They play on your sympathies, and then before you know it, they're here.
► 01:02:54
They're making little reichs within our country.
► 01:02:58
Even though the very fucking anti-Semitic beliefs that Hitler got, he got from...
► 01:03:06
Intellectuals here in the 1910s and 20s.
► 01:03:09
So this whole fucking bullshit, this whole fucking bullshit about rewriting history to make your team...
► 01:03:16
Like, if you're somebody now who says all lives matter, do not.
► 01:03:21
Do not pretend for a second that during the civil rights era, you wouldn't have been like, well, I get why Martin Luther King Jr. is angry, but I really don't like what he's saying.
► 01:03:32
I'm pulling on my...
► 01:03:34
The neck of my shirt, because the next clip that we're going to play...
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No, no, no, no, no!
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God damn it, dear!
► 01:03:41
It starts with him in the middle of a rant about all lives matter.
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No!
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God damn it!
► 01:03:49
Fucking Christ.
► 01:03:50
Before we get to that, I want to just tell everybody, in case you're unaware, the idea of Holocaust denial is much more complicated than just someone saying it didn't happen.
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There's a lot of schools of thought within...
► 01:04:02
The Holocaust denial community.
► 01:04:04
There are people who believe, like, it did happen, but there weren't gas chambers.
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Or it did happen, but they were work camps.
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They weren't death camps.
► 01:04:12
It did happen, but the reason that people died was because of malnutrition, not because of a concerted effort on the Nazis' part to kill the Jews.
► 01:04:22
Or there's another branch that's just like, hey, yeah, six million Jews died, but...
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A bunch of other people died, so why do we care?
► 01:04:30
There's all these branches, and the thing that Alex is expressing is one of the branches of Holocaust denial.
► 01:04:38
This is incredibly disgusting sort of thing to hear from him.
► 01:04:45
And I'm still pissed about this after our last episode.
► 01:04:50
Yeah.
► 01:04:50
That is exactly the same shit that people will try with the alt-right versus the alt-light.
► 01:04:57
If you are minimizing the Holocaust, you are denying it.
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In many ways, yes.
► 01:05:02
Full stop.
► 01:05:03
You are not pretending to be more fucking intelligent or more researched than anybody else.
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You're trying to butt actually.
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You are denying it.
► 01:05:12
You're trying to butt actually the Holocaust.
► 01:05:14
You're a fucking monster.
► 01:05:17
Equivalent to somebody saying that it didn't happen.
► 01:05:20
Equivalent to somebody saying that it should have happened.
► 01:05:23
You're a fucking monster.
► 01:05:25
Full stop.
► 01:05:27
I think that you sort of hit the nail on the head earlier, and the reason...
► 01:05:31
That he engages in this sort of thing is that there is a part of him that realizes that his mentality is what was the problem in our country then.
► 01:05:42
But be that as it may, Alex Jones does have a little thought about all lives matter.
► 01:05:48
But that's not the most important part of this clip.
► 01:05:50
It just is where he begins.
► 01:05:52
He's ranting about all lives matter and how Democrats have to apologize for saying all lives matter when all lives do matter.
► 01:06:00
It leads to another really weird sort of religious rant that I actually think is much more interesting.
► 01:06:06
But the rapture is a fraud.
► 01:06:10
Oh boy.
► 01:06:11
There's the Battle of Armageddon.
► 01:06:13
Christ comes back.
► 01:06:15
The dead in Christ are raised.
► 01:06:18
And then those living spend a thousand years with Christ here on Earth.
► 01:06:22
That's what the Bible says.
► 01:06:24
And they've got it that there's a teleporter machine.
► 01:06:27
What?
► 01:06:28
Whatever.
► 01:06:30
Let's just say God the devil isn't real for the sake of argument.
► 01:06:33
Where is that?
► 01:06:34
Where is that in the Bible?
► 01:06:35
Where is that in Revelation that there's a teleporter machine?
► 01:06:39
I want to be clear.
► 01:06:39
That's not referencing something that he talked about before this book started.
► 01:06:44
Wait, it just came out that there was a teleporter machine.
► 01:06:47
I don't know what that's in reference to.
► 01:06:49
No, that's what he's talking about with the rapture.
► 01:06:52
That's what he's saying.
► 01:06:53
He's saying that the rapture isn't what people think it is.
► 01:06:55
It's a fucking teleporter machine.
► 01:06:57
That very well may be the case.
► 01:07:00
Anyway, here we go.
► 01:07:00
Let's get back.
► 01:07:02
Whatever.
► 01:07:03
Let's just say God the devil isn't real for the sake of argument.
► 01:07:06
Fair.
► 01:07:06
I'm going to fight putting fluoride in the water.
► 01:07:09
I'm going to fight aborting babies and selling their body parts.
► 01:07:12
Fair.
► 01:07:12
And I don't care if twiddly-dee and twiddly-dumb preachers get up there on television in front of their crowds and follow their 501c3 and give their government script.
► 01:07:25
Stephen, finish up your points, brother.
► 01:07:27
Thanks for holding.
► 01:07:28
Wait, there's a guy on hold?
► 01:07:30
Yeah.
► 01:07:31
I kept it there as a punchline, just because that's great.
► 01:07:34
What I think is really fascinating is to look at the preachers that he does have on, as opposed to the preachers he complains about.
► 01:07:41
Because he's had this guy named Pastor David James Manning on a bunch.
► 01:07:46
Are you aware of that guy?
► 01:07:47
No.
► 01:07:48
David Manning is one of the craziest black nationalist homophobic pastors in the world.
► 01:07:55
He runs a place called Atla Ministry in New York.
► 01:07:58
Not happy about that.
► 01:07:59
And the most notable thing he's done recently is a couple years back, maybe a year and a half ago or so, he came out and said that the gay agenda is way more pervasive than we think.
► 01:08:09
And what they're doing is that they're putting semen in the lattes at Starbucks.
► 01:08:15
All right.
► 01:08:16
That's how you get the frothy milk.
► 01:08:17
All right.
► 01:08:18
That's how you get the frothy milk.
► 01:08:19
That makes as much sense as anything else.
► 01:08:21
There's semen in the lattes.
► 01:08:23
I'm pronouncing it like that because that's how he pronounces it, and it's fun.
► 01:08:26
I know.
► 01:08:26
That's the weirdest.
► 01:08:27
It's super fun.
► 01:08:27
There's semen in the lattes.
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Yeah, because if you go into Starbucks and you get a latte, it has semen in it, and then you get a taste for semen, because the gays like to eat semen, and they have a lot of fun.
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So you'll associate these good times that you have with lattes with semen.
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Oh, man.
► 01:08:45
It's wild.
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But Alex has him on as a guest pretty regularly.
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Not super regularly, but at least, like, I've found at least ten times he's been on.
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At least, like, seven.
► 01:08:57
It's wild.
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All right, all right.
► 01:08:59
No, I'm moving on.
► 01:09:00
I have no opinions on that.
► 01:09:02
Fucking...
► 01:09:03
True?
► 01:09:04
Untrue?
► 01:09:04
I'm fine with both.
► 01:09:06
I'd like to say, just like, full disclosure, I used to manage a Starbucks, and there's no seasoning in lattes.
► 01:09:14
They get, uh...
► 01:09:15
I was waiting for you to...
► 01:09:16
Full disclosure.
► 01:09:18
I drink a lot of semen, but just recreationally.
► 01:09:21
No sex involved.
► 01:09:22
I gotta get my fix.
► 01:09:25
You get market-produced milk, and it's put into a steaming wand.
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You have a cup, and the steaming wand froths the milk.
► 01:09:35
It's not jizz.
► 01:09:38
He complains about churches all the time, and yet he'll have someone like him on.
► 01:09:43
It's fucking bizarre.
► 01:09:45
Everything.
► 01:09:47
Everything.
► 01:09:47
Nothing makes sense.
► 01:09:48
Everything is bizarre right now.
► 01:09:50
So, like I told you, they're doing a lot of sales.
► 01:09:52
They're trying to boost sales.
► 01:09:53
Trying to get the shit out.
► 01:09:54
And it's like every single day, there's something.
► 01:09:57
Like this big Anthony Gucciardi appearance, Dr. Group coming on.
► 01:10:01
On the 10th, they have an even bigger thing happens.
► 01:10:05
We're going to go to our guest, Steve Wetzel, here in just a moment, who I asked to come on the show.
► 01:10:12
I've been in talks with these folks.
► 01:10:14
We're going to spend about 10 minutes on this and get back into the news.
► 01:10:18
I've been in talks.
► 01:10:20
Well, they've been a sponsor for four years.
► 01:10:23
Three to four years.
► 01:10:24
But I've been in talks for two years to do this.
► 01:10:29
And finally, we got it all done.
► 01:10:32
I'll be honest with you.
► 01:10:33
I went out and talked to some of the other top providers and they just couldn't provide something as good as as low a cost that was as high quality.
► 01:10:41
Because I believe in treating people like I want to be treated.
► 01:10:44
This is fucking boring.
► 01:10:46
He launches a line of survival foods.
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He has a group called My Patriot Supply and their private labeling.
► 01:10:54
Like an entire line of, you know, you get buckets in your house of food.
► 01:11:00
So, I mean, he's just really trying to expand what he has for people to buy.
► 01:11:08
So, I mean, it does feed into this, we need to make money.
► 01:11:11
We need to make money fucking fast.
► 01:11:12
So you get a little bit of a markup on this new thing.
► 01:11:15
Right.
► 01:11:16
It's a good new revenue stream, especially when you're fucking spending all your time scaring people.
► 01:11:20
So there's that.
► 01:11:22
Also on this show, super fun to note, Alex Jones legit forgets what year 9-11 happened.
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Oh, God.
► 01:11:34
It's 2015.
► 01:11:35
Oh, fantastic.
► 01:11:36
It's 2015.
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He says, it's the 15th anniversary coming up of 9-11.
► 01:11:40
And then he's like, hold on.
► 01:11:42
Is that right?
► 01:11:43
15th anniversary.
► 01:11:44
He even thinks about it.
► 01:11:45
He's like, that's it.
► 01:11:47
That's it.
► 01:11:48
It's always just fun to remember when people forget 9-11.
► 01:11:52
Anyway, let's get on to 9-11.
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September 11th, 2015 is the next day.
► 01:11:56
Oh, that's right.
► 01:11:57
We're actually doing a 9-11 episode.
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Forget about that.
► 01:12:01
He doesn't talk about it almost at all.
► 01:12:03
The 9-11 episode in 2015 is very, like...
► 01:12:07
It's kind of blase.
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Hey, let's be honest.
► 01:12:10
Kind of bland.
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Aren't we all a little bit done with 9-11?
► 01:12:13
I've moved on.
► 01:12:15
So here is something that he does have to say on 9-11.
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At a certain point, you know, seeing 2,000 people die versus the half a million civilians that we killed in Iraq, kind of like, you know what?
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It evens out.
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I think I'm good on 9-11.
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I don't think we're the good guy anymore.
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No, no, no, no.
► 01:12:36
So, oh, on 9-11, that was the day that he has the interview with the guy with the barbershop that we talked about earlier.
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Yes, yeah.
► 01:12:42
So he ends up having this interview and the guy is a sleazy semen dude.
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He just, he gave me a very bad vibe.
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Sleazy semen dude.
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These dudes can't fart if ladies are around.
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I like them to fart.
► 01:12:51
Wait, what?
► 01:12:52
That's sort of one of his arguments.
► 01:12:54
I have my man cave here.
► 01:12:55
Dudes can't tell jokes and fart if women are around.
► 01:12:57
That is legitimately, like, what his argument comes down to.
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All right.
► 01:13:02
But, more importantly...
► 01:13:04
Alex has something he needs you to be really afraid about on 9-11, and here's that.
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They are going to turn the Middle East over to radical Islam, merge with communism.
► 01:13:17
That's not how that works at all.
► 01:13:19
That's the checkmate move by the New World Order and the central banks and Saudi Arabia.
► 01:13:23
Do you understand that?
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Do you have that through your head, okay?
► 01:13:30
And then if the states don't go along with it here in the United States, The globalists are going to bomb stuff and say the patriots did it, or they're going to find reasons to indict people, like the Texas Attorney General.
► 01:13:40
I know they're trying to indict the governor right now, and I'm not going to get any more of that.
► 01:13:45
I mean, do you understand?
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They've got feds following the governor around.
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Don't they always?
► 01:13:52
Don't they always have feds following the government?
► 01:13:53
Yeah, but the governor was in trouble for some insider trading stuff.
► 01:13:57
Yeah, illegal things.
► 01:13:58
Things that were illegal that he was doing.
► 01:14:01
Yeah, Alex doesn't seem...
► 01:14:02
He seems to think he's being targeted or...
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See, that's the one thing.
► 01:14:06
If Alex lived in Illinois, he'd be like, well, of course they're following around one of our governors.
► 01:14:11
He's probably committed so many crimes.
► 01:14:13
So many crimes.
► 01:14:13
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Even our best governors have committed at least most crimes.
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Light crimes.
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But...
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Those things are things you need to be afraid of.
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The idea that they're going to do false flags blaming the patriots.
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The fact that they're going to overthrow the Middle East and merge it with communism.
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Preemptively protecting any white nationalist crime that occurs.
► 01:14:34
A lot of that is stuff you need to be afraid of.
► 01:14:36
But Alex Jones has some more information that you should be more afraid of immediately.
► 01:14:41
What's that?
► 01:14:42
...all the time right now trying to find him with a crooked toenail to throw him in jail.
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And by the way, the FBI...
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Doesn't like doing it.
► 01:14:49
I mean, most people in the FBI are not really bad.
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They're compartmentalized.
► 01:14:52
But it's so dirty now, they're just going, I cannot believe we're this evil.
► 01:14:58
And I'm not going to get into my sources, folks, but I mean, I have sources.
► 01:15:01
Donald Trump Jr.
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Not yet.
► 01:15:05
That's a problem with my job, man, is I know so much more than I can even say because I can't reveal sources.
► 01:15:11
But the reason I know they're making their move is it's bad.
► 01:15:16
It's bad.
► 01:15:16
They're looking at a whole bunch of governors they're going to arrest.
► 01:15:19
They're looking at taking out people in legislatures.
► 01:15:22
Government's even looking at sending hit teams around to kill key people that aren't going to go along with this.
► 01:15:27
And all these generals that are now telling the truth and stuff, you know they're going to send a hit team to kill you and your family, right?
► 01:15:32
They'll say you suicided your wife and kids.
► 01:15:34
So I'm going to tell the generals and everybody else something right now.
► 01:15:37
You're going to preside over the destruction of America and the world sliding into a new dark age and you...
► 01:15:47
Are going to end up getting locked in prison or killed, probably.
► 01:15:51
Because of your inaction and your cowards.
► 01:15:54
I mean, I'm going to say it right now.
► 01:15:55
Spoiler alert, none of that happened.
► 01:15:56
That's a really, really great way to describe the GOP under Trump right now.
► 01:16:02
How do you mean?
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Cowards?
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Like, you guys, because of your inaction, are going to wind up in jail.
► 01:16:08
And you're like, oh yeah.
► 01:16:10
That's probably true.
► 01:16:11
So hit team.
► 01:16:12
Fucking sooner or later.
► 01:16:13
And let's be honest.
► 01:16:16
Now, it's entirely possible that we don't make it through this whole section of democracy.
► 01:16:23
Very possible.
► 01:16:24
Now, historically, though, America's made it through shit.
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We've done a lot.
► 01:16:28
Yeah, that's true.
► 01:16:29
And as much as they want to believe that once they enact the GOP agenda and they restrict voting rights and all that shit, it's not like our voting rights haven't been restricted before.
► 01:16:40
It's not like a large...
► 01:16:41
It's not like women got the vote in 1776.
► 01:16:45
You know, like that kind of thing.
► 01:16:46
So if they don't pull it off perfectly, sooner or later we're going to fucking come after them.
► 01:16:54
Right?
► 01:16:55
So if the GOP doesn't win this, 100%.
► 01:17:00
And it seems unlikely.
► 01:17:02
Sooner or later, they're going to get fucked, and they don't understand that.
► 01:17:06
No, but we're not saying there's going to be hit teams.
► 01:17:09
I mean, fucking, are we?
► 01:17:11
Are we not?
► 01:17:11
Are we not saying that?
► 01:17:13
Are we not saying that?
► 01:17:15
Now you're turning into Alex Jones.
► 01:17:16
Are we not saying that?
► 01:17:17
I'm just saying, are we not saying that?
► 01:17:19
You've got to stop jonesing.
► 01:17:20
That's our new thing.
► 01:17:21
That's our new thing.
► 01:17:22
When we get too close to Alex Jones, stop Jones.
► 01:17:25
We're no longer doing the points.
► 01:17:27
We're doing stop Jones.
► 01:17:28
Yeah.
► 01:17:29
So that's wild.
► 01:17:31
That didn't happen.
► 01:17:31
Hit teams.
► 01:17:32
Did not take out governors or legislators.
► 01:17:34
What kind of lunacy would occur if you...
► 01:17:40
I'd like to point out, for all of you listening who think that we're a little bit off, it's not the wine.
► 01:17:44
Jordan is watching the baseball game on his phone.
► 01:17:47
I am not doing that.
► 01:17:48
Jordan has the Cubs game.
► 01:17:50
I'm just being aware of it.
► 01:17:52
People are very aware of it.
► 01:17:54
I'm not watching it.
► 01:17:54
I am just keeping awareness of it.
► 01:17:56
I understand you're a fan.
► 01:17:59
I'm far more angry about that.
► 01:18:02
If you had just said it was the wine.
► 01:18:05
Are you sure it's not because...
► 01:18:07
Oh, wait.
► 01:18:07
We're up.
► 01:18:08
Never mind.
► 01:18:10
Listen.
► 01:18:11
Listen.
► 01:18:12
So on September 11th, that was one of the things he wanted to talk about.
► 01:18:15
But again, it makes total sense.
► 01:18:17
He wants to scare people.
► 01:18:18
And so the idea that he has high-level sources that say, they're going to take out all the guys you like.
► 01:18:22
Right.
► 01:18:22
All of our patriot guys.
► 01:18:24
They're going to take them out secretly.
► 01:18:26
That feeds into that.
► 01:18:27
But he also has an interview with a guy named Joseph Farah.
► 01:18:31
Are you aware of Joseph Farah?
► 01:18:33
I am not.
► 01:18:34
Never heard of that name before.
► 01:18:35
He is the guy who started World Net Daily.
► 01:18:37
And he is a dick.
► 01:18:40
Yeah, I was going to say, you said World Net Daily, and I'm like, I bet he's a horrifying fucking person.
► 01:18:47
He is big into the Clinton conspiracies, along with our friend Larry Nichols.
► 01:18:52
Yep.
► 01:18:52
And then also, he is super, has made a lot of public claims that Obama, his birth certificate is fake.
► 01:19:01
Yeah.
► 01:19:01
He offered to pay up $15,000 if they could prove it was real.
► 01:19:05
And then reneged once the birth certificate was revealed.
► 01:19:09
He's a dick.
► 01:19:10
But he released some information about the Clintons that is dubious in the past.
► 01:19:19
About how they wanted to silence conservative voices and stuff like that.
► 01:19:23
So Alex has him on to do an interview about the growing Clinton menace in the 2016 election.
► 01:19:30
And he asks Joseph Farah...
► 01:19:33
Hey, you've got a bunch of information.
► 01:19:35
Why don't you release it?
► 01:19:37
Well, you have a bunch of stuff from this Clinton stash that you have.
► 01:19:41
Very legitimate question.
► 01:19:42
Now, let's see how legitimate his answer is.
► 01:19:45
Okay.
► 01:19:45
I agree with you.
► 01:19:46
In closing, I want to get you back in the next few months to get into those documents you got.
► 01:19:52
You said some of it was so incendiary you had to carefully dole it out.
► 01:19:55
When are we going to learn more about what you got from the Clinton Library?
► 01:19:58
I mean, what you released was bombshell.
► 01:20:01
Yeah, well, there's a lot of good stuff in there, but when I look at it, I think, this means something to me because I experienced it.
► 01:20:09
How much can I put out there without people thinking I'm just being self-indulgent and just being nostalgic?
► 01:20:15
It doesn't matter.
► 01:20:16
This is how they plan to shut down new media.
► 01:20:18
I mean, it's really powerful.
► 01:20:21
They thought of shutting down new media even before we got started, Alex.
► 01:20:26
I have to hand it to them.
► 01:20:29
They saw what a threat.
► 01:20:30
You know, we were at such an early stage in the development of new media, and so now, you know, now with guys like you and Breitbart and Drudge and the rest, they've really got their hands full, and they'll be more serious than ever.
► 01:20:45
Oh, that's a good dodge to Alex Jones's question, but in terms of the actual answer he gives is...
► 01:20:52
I have a bunch of damning documents that I don't want to release because people think I'm just being sentimental or nostalgic.
► 01:20:59
No, he said self-indulgent, which I don't know what that means.
► 01:21:02
But he also said nostalgic.
► 01:21:04
Okay.
► 01:21:04
As Alex was talking over him, he said, I don't want to look like I'm nostalgic.
► 01:21:07
I don't understand what that means at all.
► 01:21:09
I think if I was going to try and give him a tiny bit of credit, I would say that what he means is people will think I'm trying to self-aggrandize.
► 01:21:17
I'm trying to make myself the story about the Clintons.
► 01:21:21
And I want to avoid that.
► 01:21:22
It's him trying to be magnanimous and humble, but the reality is he has nothing.
► 01:21:26
He has no information.
► 01:21:28
Obviously, you're the fucking guy who runs and started World Net Daily.
► 01:21:33
You're on Alex Jones' show talking shit about the Clintons.
► 01:21:36
If you had any concrete information, you would pony that motherfucking shit up.
► 01:21:40
Frankly, even if you had no concrete information, you would make something up.
► 01:21:45
Right.
► 01:21:45
Why is he pretending?
► 01:21:47
Because you want to have the MacGuffin.
► 01:21:48
You want to have this idea of this.
► 01:21:50
This possible thing, this magic thing that's in a box, because it's the same thing with what's on the server.
► 01:21:56
It's the same thing.
► 01:21:57
Whatever it creates in your mind is way more potent than what the reality is.
► 01:22:03
It's the same reason I've been putting out these...
► 01:22:06
I made an archive of the episodes of That's What They Want You To Think, me and Marty's conspiracy theory show.
► 01:22:12
Nice plug.
► 01:22:13
Thanks.
► 01:22:13
We did one episode about a group called the Hellfire Club.
► 01:22:16
I don't know if you're aware of them.
► 01:22:17
Not at all.
► 01:22:18
They're a secret society that existed way in the past.
► 01:22:21
There's a guy named Sir Francis Dashwood.
► 01:22:23
I just love their names.
► 01:22:25
They're great.
► 01:22:26
Oh, no, no, no!
► 01:22:27
Of course I know who the Hellfire Club is.
► 01:22:29
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 01:22:29
So they had this secret society, and most of it really was just debauchery.
► 01:22:33
It was fucking.
► 01:22:34
It was drinking and fucking and saying things that God doesn't want you to say.
► 01:22:37
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 01:22:37
And making paintings of themselves as saints.
► 01:22:41
Sodomy was involved.
► 01:22:42
Yeah, probably a lot of butt-fucking.
► 01:22:44
But the idea that they had was they created secrecy intentionally.
► 01:22:50
They had this methodology wherein they would publicly talk about how secret their society was.
► 01:22:57
And because they would do that, there was a mystique to what they did.
► 01:23:01
And everyone thought they were doing way more important shit than they were actually doing.
► 01:23:04
They were drinking and fucking.
► 01:23:06
Right.
► 01:23:06
They were committing sacrilege, perhaps, but it wasn't to any larger goal.
► 01:23:10
But because they would be like, ask me about the Hellfire Club.
► 01:23:16
Hey, Dan, have you been to the Hellfire Club?
► 01:23:19
Man, I haven't, but I hear they're really up to some weird shit in there, but no one talks about what goes on there.
► 01:23:24
Nobody talks about it?
► 01:23:25
No.
► 01:23:25
But, like, do you know?
► 01:23:27
I have no idea.
► 01:23:28
I've heard some fables.
► 01:23:31
Fables?
► 01:23:31
Fables?
► 01:23:32
Yeah.
► 01:23:32
Did Aesop write about the Hellfire Club?
► 01:23:35
Moving on.
► 01:23:36
That roleplay didn't work out.
► 01:23:37
None of our roleplays have ever worked out.
► 01:23:41
We've never taken improv classes.
► 01:23:42
No.
► 01:23:42
But you understand what I'm saying?
► 01:23:43
No, absolutely.
► 01:23:44
Joseph Farris playing the same game.
► 01:23:46
This mysterious...
► 01:23:46
I don't want to release this stuff because your mind will be like, oh, it's got to be the most damning stuff.
► 01:23:52
He's not putting it up.
► 01:23:53
Maybe it's dangerous.
► 01:23:55
Douglas Adams had the best representation of that, I think, in one of his...
► 01:24:00
I think it was The Long Dark Tea Time of the Soul.
► 01:24:04
He had a famous author.
► 01:24:05
Who would famously have a bunch of chickens taken into his hotel room every night, and nobody knows what they were for.
► 01:24:13
And then later on, he was like, well, yeah, he just had them brought in and had them smuggled out with nobody knowing, because it created that sense of, what the fuck is this guy doing?
► 01:24:22
Like, that kind of thing.
► 01:24:23
So many weird celebrities play that same game today.
► 01:24:26
Yeah, exactly.
► 01:24:26
Yeah, absolutely.
► 01:24:27
So, Joseph Fair is playing the same game, but it's unfortunately way more damaging, because what it creates is part of that.
► 01:24:34
Vast right-wing conspiracy.
► 01:24:36
Of course.
► 01:24:37
That Hillary Clinton so accurately complained about.
► 01:24:42
Oh, poor Hillary.
► 01:24:43
Oh, poor Hillary.
► 01:24:44
Well, actually, poor all of us.
► 01:24:46
Yeah, and let's be clear.
► 01:24:47
We're not sitting here saying that she's the greatest.
► 01:24:50
No.
► 01:24:51
That's not our game.
► 01:24:52
That's like us...
► 01:24:54
The thing I think about whenever we talk about the election is...
► 01:25:00
A lot of what's going on with Emmanuel Macron right now in France.
► 01:25:05
Like, he's way better than Le Pen.
► 01:25:10
Yeah, than Le Pen, right?
► 01:25:11
But he's still acting like he's a king, you know?
► 01:25:14
Like, he's not doing good.
► 01:25:16
He sucks in a lot of ways, but Le Pen would have been so much worse.
► 01:25:20
Yeah, exactly.
► 01:25:21
It seems like our world now exists in the extreme far-right.
► 01:25:30
Yeah.
► 01:25:32
Neoliberalism.
► 01:25:32
Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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Which sucks.
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Like, hey, how about progressives?
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This is a thing that I thought about.
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But dude, if you think about it, that is the way that a lot of conservatives felt before the Tea Party really got going, is that the center was liberal.
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And then the, you know what I'm saying?
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I do see what you're saying.
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The Republicans were coming to the center, and then the Democrats were straight-up socialists.
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Yeah.
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And so they launched this hard right thing, and they have moved it super far to the right.
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So far right.
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And maybe, I don't know.
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I don't know how I feel entirely about the blossoming internet socialism that's been going on lately.
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I need to look into it a little more before I speak on it.
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But it's possible that that will become its own sort of new version on the left of the Tea Party and swing things back.
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But unfortunately, what will happen then is it won't...
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It is a pendulum.
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But it won't readjust to the middle.
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It will swing the other way.
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And then there will be an even more extreme response from the militias on the right.
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Right, right, right.
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And then eventually we'll all kill each other.
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There is the...
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For every action, there is an equal and opposite.
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Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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That kind of theory.
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Which kind of sucks.
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Dead silence for the next ten minutes.
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Let's get introspective.
► 01:26:51
So, speaking of things that suck, this next clip from Alex...
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is one of the most woefully misogynistic things he's ever had to say, and that's saying a lot.
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Oh, God.
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But I just illustrate how serious this is.
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You know, I mentioned this article.
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Feminists claim it's sexist to complain.
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See, I think it's sexist for her to complain out of Freudian slip.
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Feminists claim it's sexist to compliment women.
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Feminazi, to use the Rush Limbaugh term, publicly.
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Just real quick, let's tell the story about what happened.
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What?
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There was a lady who on LinkedIn had a guy send her a message that was basically like, hey, I'd like to get in touch with you.
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Also, I gotta say...
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This might not be politically correct, but you've got the best picture on LinkedIn.
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All right.
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No.
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Her response was, I come here.
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This is a professional networking site.
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I do not want to be judged by my appearance, especially by someone twice my age, this whole sort of thing.
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And then there was a massive backlash against her.
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Everyone started calling her a cunt.
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She started getting tons of death and rape threats over social media.
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She was inundated with so much abuse.
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Just from standing up for herself.
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I read the messages that were sent.
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They were posted.
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You can read.
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There's a Guardian article about it.
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I don't think that she said anything that was like, hey, fuck you, man.
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It was more corrective than anything else.
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It's like, hey, don't fucking...
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I'm a person.
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This is not a place for you to try and pick me up.
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I've had that so many times at shows where...
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Afterwards, if it's me and a...
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A female comic?
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This just happened recently.
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Kristen Lundberg, a comic in Chicago, she and I did a show together, and one of the guys on the show afterwards came up to her and was like, man, whenever you pulled out that violin, you were so sexy.
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There are compliments about comedy.
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Yeah.
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What is that?
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What the fuck is that?
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It's very weird, and the reason that she...
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You were very funny.
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Right.
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Instead of, fuck it.
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Like, that's exactly what that is.
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Like, are you good at your job?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But the reason that you brought it up, and I think, you know, the conversation that's been had that a lot of dudes aren't listening to, is that these sexualizing and eroticizing compliments...
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Especially in non-romantic contexts.
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What it does is it's a way of exerting power over women.
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It's a way of taking away their agency and their ability.
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And that's the point that she was making.
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And she's totally right.
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Now let's hear Alex discuss it.
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Oh no.
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I don't want to know.
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For complimenting her.
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I don't want to know.
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Stop.
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Mic down.
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And now in the London Telegraph today, lawyer who accused Barrister of sexism, the same woman.
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Has described men online as hot stuff.
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Ooh, a thought crime there.
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I mean, a mammal will be attracted to the opposite sex.
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That's not a crime.
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Having the name he or she or boy or girl, it's not bad to be he or she, see?
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I mean, this is how freakish this is getting.
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A lawyer who accused a fellow barrister of sexism in England after he described LinkedIn profile as stunning had previously praised men for their physical appearance online telling them they are Hot stuff.
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Now, she just chose to do this, and the feminist group said, good, name him and shame him to get her stars and bars.
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Charlotte Proudman, 27, said she felt objectified.
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Oh, that's why you had your hair all done up and stuff on there.
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After receiving an online message from Alexander Carter, 57, she had invited to connect on the professional networking site.
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So she invited him to connect.
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He said, wow, I love your photo.
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It's stunning.
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How dare him?
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I mean, I'll be sitting there and there's an old lady checking me out at Dillard's or something buying a shirt.
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And if she's got a cool watch or something, I don't say it if I don't like it.
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I'll go, that's a really nice watch.
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Your hair really looks nice.
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So fucking different!
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My mom does, my dad does.
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I see a guy get, you know, on an elevator with me with a cool sports jacket or a cool Rolex.
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Cool bag.
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I'll say, man, that's really cool.
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I'm just being nice.
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Plus, I like it.
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This is sick.
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Telling us that our very communication's bad, putting us in smaller and smaller boxes.
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But it's all selectively enforced.
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If you want to have liberal Hollywood, sexism, sex stuff, debauchery, torture, murder, that's okay.
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Fuck you.
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You can have kids play violent video games all day, but if they go to school and write an essay about the Marines and mention an M-16, here come the police.
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Nope.
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He wrote, I appreciate this, that this is probably horrendously politically incorrect, but that is a stunning picture.
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Oh, he even admitted it was politically incorrect.
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He even prostrated himself before her that I'm so sorry it's politically incorrect.
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And that signaled her like a bug-eyed piranha to come in and go after him.
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Because, see, they peck members of the cult even more.
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I mean, you know, what I found is these women that are fake feminists, and I've talked to a lot of guys about this, like Democratic Party operative women and stuff, actually want to be debased and want to be called pigs and stuff.
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And so the problem was he groveled her.
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I'm not saying with her, but that's what I would imagine.
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He said, hey, you pussy, it's time for us to get together right now.
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He's been partying on that problem.
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Holy shit.
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Holy shit.
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That end is crazy.
► 01:32:38
If he had just fucking outright sexually harassed her as opposed to couched his sexual harassment in polite language, he would have been fucking on LinkedIn.
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That's so fucking awful.
► 01:32:52
That interpretation is wild.
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I don't...
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How can you not understand that?
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How can you not understand that the context of his...
► 01:33:00
Look, I want to fuck!
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Yeah.
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But that's not why I would hire someone.
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That's not why I would be on LinkedIn.
► 01:33:07
Yeah.
► 01:33:08
Like, what's wrong with you?
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If you're like, hey, look at this sexy, attractive woman.
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That's great.
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So long as you're not being a creep.
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So long as you're not...
► 01:33:18
Pulling them off the street, so long as you've got catcalling, so long as it's within a context that makes sense and is accepted by both sides.
► 01:33:27
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But the idea that you should do that in a professional circumstance is so...
► 01:33:33
It's bizarre.
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Fuck!
► 01:33:35
So, also, but the reason that he thinks he's in sort of safe harbor to critique her and call her like a wild, out-of-control feminazi, blah, blah, blah, is that he said at the beginning of that that she'd called men sexy and hot stuff online.
► 01:33:49
Yeah, like, that's exactly fucking, fucking fuck, come on.
► 01:33:54
If you look into that, the circumstances are she commented sexy on her friend's photos on Facebook.
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No, fucking.
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Which is completely different.
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Very, very different.
► 01:34:06
That's congratulatory.
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He knows that people aren't going to look into it.
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He knows that his audience is already predisposed to these anti-feminist, chauvinist mentalities, because he knows that his fucking audience is all dudes.
► 01:34:22
That's just like whenever they show the little headlines, stuff like that, where it's like, oh, a former convict.
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Murdered by the cops.
► 01:34:35
Yeah.
► 01:34:36
Instead of father of two.
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No, it's even worse.
► 01:34:38
But when it's a white person, it's father of three.
► 01:34:42
There were two examples within the last week that were really illustrative of that.
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Oh, yeah.
► 01:34:47
There was the one where a guy pulled someone out of a burning car and they said ex-felon.
► 01:34:54
Instead of going to a job interview, saved someone from a burning car.
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Why the fuck do you have to bring up that he's a fucking felon in the headline?
► 01:34:59
No.
► 01:35:00
And then the other one was that there was a lady who sent ricin to President Obama, and they used her headshot.
► 01:35:07
Former actress.
► 01:35:08
Right.
► 01:35:08
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 01:35:11
Fucking unbelievable.
► 01:35:13
Or just the way that the white lady shot.
► 01:35:17
The Australian white lady shot by the cops is treated so differently.
► 01:35:22
The police chief resigned.
► 01:35:25
She didn't get fired.
► 01:35:26
She resigned over it.
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Un-fucking-believable.
► 01:35:31
If it weren't so tragic and a sign of what our society's up to, it would be comical.
► 01:35:37
The actual elements of it are farce.
► 01:35:40
But, be that as it may, that's kind of where we leave off September 11th, 2015.
► 01:35:45
Not a whole lot of talk about September 11th.
► 01:35:48
Really.
► 01:35:48
He has an interview with our favorite homophobic pastor, Chuck Baldwin.
► 01:35:52
He is the guy who said that no civilization that has officially endorsed homosexuality has ever survived.
► 01:35:58
Oh, that's true.
► 01:35:58
He goes on to say a bunch more homophobic stuff, and they scream about how Christianity is responsible for saving people from slavery, all sorts of...
► 01:36:07
Everything that's good that's ever happened is Christianity.
► 01:36:09
Everything that's good that's ever happened is Christian.
► 01:36:11
Even when Christians did bad stuff, well, that's because they weren't Christians.
► 01:36:15
Yeah.
► 01:36:16
They were doing bad stuff.
► 01:36:17
So that was on the 11th.
► 01:36:18
It's almost as if, regardless of your religion, people are capable of doing good and bad.
► 01:36:23
Yeah.
► 01:36:23
So the 11th is a Friday.
► 01:36:25
Then, over the weekend, Alex Jones goes to the hike and bike trail and jumps into the lake and ends up with an ear infection.
► 01:36:31
So he's gone on Sunday.
► 01:36:33
David Knight hosts on the 13th.
► 01:36:35
David Knight hosts again on the 14th.
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So he can skip past those.
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And we get back to the 15th.
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And it's weird, because he ended the 11th show talking about how Christianity has done everything great for civilization.
► 01:36:46
And he comes back on the 15th, and he wants to talk a whole bunch about West.
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The West.
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God damn it.
► 01:36:54
And it's very similar stuff, but instead of religion, it's based in the West.
► 01:37:00
And I would posit he does not have a good handle on history.
► 01:37:04
But we can discuss that on the other end.
► 01:37:06
Oh, did we just discover that now?
► 01:37:09
We can discuss that on the other end of this book.
► 01:37:10
All I've been taught my whole life was how evil the West was.
► 01:37:15
How inherently bad white people were.
► 01:37:19
And then I studied history from even foreign perspectives.
► 01:37:25
It's just not true.
► 01:37:29
And why the West is great, and why I say it's the best, on average, some cultures are better at other things for whatever manifestation, whatever manifest destiny reason.
► 01:37:41
Whiteness.
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Just like different breeds of dogs behave differently and have different attributes.
► 01:37:46
White dogs are better.
► 01:37:50
The West has been the great innovator.
► 01:37:55
The great builders, the great scientists.
► 01:37:58
Now, much of the ideas the West has come from the East, come from the South, come from even older cultures.
► 01:38:08
But for whatever reason, many of those cultures fell before and never rose back up.
► 01:38:15
And the West, the Romans particularly, were great innovators at grabbing other cultures and using it.
► 01:38:23
When other cultures tended to not innovate, they intended to invent things, but then not innovate off of that.
► 01:38:31
I don't know what that means.
► 01:38:33
On average.
► 01:38:33
I do.
► 01:38:34
And so it was the West that was the melting pot.
► 01:38:37
It was the West early on that actually wasn't racist and sectarian like some of the other groups.
► 01:38:48
Now, the West became like that later.
► 01:38:50
Sure.
► 01:38:50
So, I have a lot of historical thoughts.
► 01:38:53
The first is...
► 01:38:55
Where do we start with his bullshit there?
► 01:38:59
I'll try and work backwards.
► 01:39:00
How...
► 01:39:01
I want to start at the beginning.
► 01:39:03
All right.
► 01:39:04
Go ahead.
► 01:39:07
The idea...
► 01:39:08
First, there was God.
► 01:39:09
Okay.
► 01:39:10
The idea that...
► 01:39:11
Then he created the stars and the...
► 01:39:13
Okay.
► 01:39:13
The idea that old-time West civilizations weren't racist is...
► 01:39:17
Patently absurd.
► 01:39:18
I haven't studied Rome all that much, but I've studied Greece extensively.
► 01:39:22
It's a big part of my college education.
► 01:39:25
And one of the things, just a great example that's very easy for people to analyze and understand, is that, you know the word barbarian?
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You know where it comes from?
► 01:39:34
No.
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It comes from the Greek.
► 01:39:35
Barbary.
► 01:39:36
No, it comes from ho barbaros, which is a term for people outside invading.
► 01:39:42
Because they thought that everybody who didn't...
► 01:39:44
Do you mean immigrants?
► 01:39:45
Yeah, they thought, well, they had a really interesting idea about having to take people into your home.
► 01:39:50
Strangers, they had like a...
► 01:39:51
They had a neighbor.
► 01:39:52
Yeah, they had a very complicated thing with actual people, but big groups, they would...
► 01:39:58
Barbarian comes from Barbar.
► 01:40:01
They thought that everyone just said barbar.
► 01:40:03
They didn't respect anyone else's language or any culture.
► 01:40:05
Oh, it was like woof woof.
► 01:40:08
Yeah.
► 01:40:08
It was just an onomatopoeia.
► 01:40:10
Those who say barbar became barbarians.
► 01:40:12
Okay.
► 01:40:12
And that's where the word comes from to this day.
► 01:40:14
That's really fascinating.
► 01:40:16
There's tons of stuff like that throughout the history of Greece and Rome.
► 01:40:20
They were very terrible, the other cultures and civilizations.
► 01:40:23
Secondly...
► 01:40:25
The idea that Rome was this great innovator that took things from other cultures and then made it better, they conquered everybody!
► 01:40:32
They didn't take things.
► 01:40:34
They just took things.
► 01:40:35
They killed everybody.
► 01:40:36
They just took things.
► 01:40:37
You know what else they took?
► 01:40:38
Their land.
► 01:40:39
They took over everything.
► 01:40:41
They were an empire.
► 01:40:42
They were a complete empire.
► 01:40:44
So then, the idea that the West is the great innovators, I just have pulled up a list of Chinese inventions.
► 01:40:54
Paper, printing, movable type, gunpowder, compass, alcoholic beverages, bells, wooden coffins, daggers, lacquer, millet cultivation, noodles, rowing ores, plowshares, pottery, pottery urns, the ability to cultivate rice, soybean cultivation, acupuncture, banknotes.
► 01:41:19
You know what?
► 01:41:20
We can stop at acupuncture.
► 01:41:21
Belts.
► 01:41:21
I think you should have just stopped right before acupuncture, actually.
► 01:41:25
Belts.
► 01:41:25
Bombs.
► 01:41:26
Blast furnaces.
► 01:41:27
Bristle toothbrushes.
► 01:41:29
Cast iron.
► 01:41:29
So what you're saying is that it is directly the Chinese fault.
► 01:41:34
Chromium.
► 01:41:34
For the Holocaust.
► 01:41:35
I think the Chinese caused the Holocaust.
► 01:41:37
Most types of drill.
► 01:41:39
Color printing.
► 01:41:41
Crossbows.
► 01:41:44
Dominoes.
► 01:41:45
The thing that drives me insane.
► 01:41:49
I think everybody gets your point.
► 01:41:51
Firelands.
► 01:41:52
Fireworks.
► 01:41:53
Fishing reels.
► 01:41:55
Flamethrowers.
► 01:41:56
I think zero people have not gotten your point.
► 01:41:58
Fragmentation bombs.
► 01:42:00
Wait, why are we proud of fragmentation bombs?
► 01:42:03
I don't know.
► 01:42:03
Hey, let's talk about India and what they've invented.
► 01:42:07
In the third millennium...
► 01:42:08
No!
► 01:42:08
No!
► 01:42:09
Stop!
► 01:42:09
In the third millennium D.C., the Indians invented a flushing toilet.
► 01:42:14
Stop.
► 01:42:14
They invented a fucking flushing toilet.
► 01:42:16
Yeah.
► 01:42:17
The Indians invented the ruler.
► 01:42:18
They invented the weighing scale.
► 01:42:20
They invented all sorts of ways to fuck with metal.
► 01:42:25
The Indians invented the plow.
► 01:42:27
I think I understand what it was he was talking about when he said he didn't want to reveal Hillary Clinton's information because it was self-indulgent.
► 01:42:34
Shampoo.
► 01:42:35
The Indians invented shampoo.
► 01:42:37
The word is based on an Indian word.
► 01:42:39
They invented tons of games that we use.
► 01:42:42
Shoots and ladders is based on an Indian game called snakes and ladders.
► 01:42:45
Well, then I will never forgive them.
► 01:42:50
No, no.
► 01:42:51
So here's the thing that I hear, though.
► 01:42:56
The Indians invented indigo dye.
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All right.
► 01:42:58
I'm done.
► 01:42:59
That's actually pretty amazing.
► 01:43:00
Although that is the cheapest dye.
► 01:43:02
So I wear it in blue jeans.
► 01:43:03
You and I both listened to that episode for dollars.
► 01:43:05
Exactly.
► 01:43:06
All right.
► 01:43:09
Yes.
► 01:43:10
The Knowledge Fight.
► 01:43:11
The podcast that references other podcasts.
► 01:43:14
We've gotten two so far in this episode.
► 01:43:16
No, but here's the bigger thing.
► 01:43:19
He just misses entirely.
► 01:43:23
You pointed out, look at all of these inventions in China and India.
► 01:43:29
And then he talks about the West being Rome and all of those places.
► 01:43:34
Who the fuck was right in the middle?
► 01:43:36
Who the fuck put together all of these things?
► 01:43:39
He says the West was the melting pot.
► 01:43:42
That is unbelievable bullshit.
► 01:43:45
The Silk Road.
► 01:43:48
It began and ended in the middle.
► 01:43:51
It didn't start on the west or the east.
► 01:43:54
It was right there in the fucking middle, in the Middle East.
► 01:43:59
It was those civilizations that came from Iraq.
► 01:44:04
Those places were the ones that made us all what we are.
► 01:44:08
Absolutely.
► 01:44:09
And the fact that he pretends that it's the east or the west.
► 01:44:12
Boggles my mind.
► 01:44:13
Totally.
► 01:44:14
That is a complete misrepresentation of all of history.
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And we don't have fucking time to go through all of the Middle Eastern countries and their innovation.
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Just start with zero.
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The number zero.
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Or Africa, the things that have come out of Africa.
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Absolutely.
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Or South America.
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There's a...
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Yeah.
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All the world's cultures have had innovation within them.
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All the world's cultures have brought us amazing things that we use.
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It's fucking absurd.
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The most important part.
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Is that the areas where they all met, the areas where everybody mixed, that's where things got a lot better and a lot more interesting a lot faster.
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Yes.
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Everywhere where it's isolated, everywhere.
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Like, when you're talking about Africa...
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Especially in the historical context, generally people wind up talking about Egypt.
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Those central parts of Africa.
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Because it had access.
► 01:45:08
Exactly.
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Where you can still see indigenous people today, they are so isolated that they never wound up interacting with all of this insane stuff.
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Because they weren't in the north and they weren't close to other...
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And they didn't have ports.
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Egypt had ports.
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Exactly.
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So you had people that came in boats from far off lands.
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And had to go through them in order to do anything.
► 01:45:32
Exactly.
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That's how the Library of Alexandria got so big.
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The idea of isolation is the idea of completely removing any innovation or invention or anything like that.
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Nationalism.
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Exactly.
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If you want the world to die, nationalism is the way you do it.
► 01:45:53
Alright, so I mean, Alex has a lot of really fucked up views about the West, and he's wrong about most of them, as we've discussed.
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But, get this.
► 01:46:02
This next clip is super bizarre.
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We know Alex Jones as a man who's primarily against tyranny.
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That is what he's afraid of.
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Theoretically primarily against tyranny.
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Well, based on his words.
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Yeah.
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His sort of...
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World conception is that the liberals are not really liberals.
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They want to push socialism, which will lead to communism, which will lead to a totalitarian regime tyranny.
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Right.
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That is his big fear.
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He doesn't understand how much fewer steps it takes to get to tyranny.
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We're there.
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We're way past it.
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But he has this, like, that is what has driven his career.
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Now, as I talked about...
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At the beginning of this episode, there's also that weird pseudo-spiritual shit that's going on in the background.
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Elves.
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But in terms of what he's really willing to present as his overarching theme, it's a fight against tyranny.
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Yeah.
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That is how he sort of presents himself all the time.
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Right.
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This next clip is super fucked up when you keep that in mind.
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The globalists do not want you to be perceptive.
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They do not want you to be powerful.
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They do not want you to be free.
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They are incredible enslavers.
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And all I know is they're not good.
► 01:47:19
They claim they're engaging in all this tyranny to bring in a total control system to protect the earth from wars and factions killing each other.
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I'll be honest with you.
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If there was a quasi-tyranny, I'm just going to be totally honest from now on, that had good for us and empowered individuals, but went and shut down really bad people, I would say it was a lesser of evils, very dangerous, might become the ultimate tyranny down the road.
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But I wouldn't fight it to the point of putting my full will against it to where I try to force his hand against me.
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What the fuck does that mean?
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What he just said is tyranny is cool as long as it's on my side.
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As long as it's the right kind of tyranny.
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As long as it's on my side.
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Right.
► 01:48:01
That's incredibly fucked up.
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Like, that should invalidate most of his beliefs.
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That should invalidate everything.
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That means he has no principles.
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He's just on a team.
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It's just that his team is weird.
► 01:48:12
Yeah.
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Like, his team is not the Republicans, necessarily.
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It's not even Libertarians.
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It's...
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That's...
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That is...
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It's anti-government, weird constitutionalists.
► 01:48:23
That really is one of those things where you do point back, like, I shit all over the founding...
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Congresses.
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I refuse to call them the founding fathers.
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Sure.
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That's fucking annoying.
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It's patriarchal.
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Fucking annoying.
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Not patriarchal, just very...
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It's like saying the...
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Call them the founding daddies.
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It's like saying the Pledge of Allegiance.
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It's super weird.
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Just in a gross way.
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But the framers of the Constitution, I don't know why that's better for me.
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It doesn't have fathers in the name.
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The guys who jerked off onto paper and made it words.
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Sure.
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They did an ooky cookie with a paper.
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I am trying so hard to get to a point.
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Richie, you're failing.
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Awful.
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The one thing that I do give them is that all of those guys really did come from it from different angles.
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Like, there were, in general, The same concept of Republicans and Democrats that we have now.
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It's flipped, but there were a bunch of times.
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There were liberal and conservative folk.
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Progressive and conservative.
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Jefferson and Washington had incredibly different perspectives.
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Exactly.
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And they disagreed with each other loud and hard.
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But at the end of the day, all of them were against kings.
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Tyranny.
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Fucking...
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Fucking throw everything.
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You guys want taxes?
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I hate taxes.
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But no fucking kings!
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Like, they all agreed on that.
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And you know what else they would not be thrilled with?
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Quasi-king.
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Yeah!
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Yeah, I'm cool with quasi-tier.
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Maybe it turns into tyranny down the road, but right now it's quasi-tyranny.
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And it might be the most dangerous thing ever.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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What is that?
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No!
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That is the one thing that you can point to with our overarching idea of the Declaration of Independence.
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And the Constitution is no kings.
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And right now we have a political party that is for kings.
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Well, I mean, you look at it...
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And probably 40% of the other party is...
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The way that we've expanded executive powers is beyond reason.
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Especially under Obama.
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Totally.
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Now, that was maybe in response to the fact that we had the most obstructive Congress in history, and so the only way to actually get anything done is for Obama to be like, fuck it, I'm doing it.
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And the largest financial crisis in recorded, not recorded history, but in recent memory.
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Definitely not recorded history.
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No, but in recent memory.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And a bunch of wars, and the fact that our healthcare system was in desperate need of something.
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There's a whole list of reasons why it happened.
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It's not good, though.
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But that's how you get tyranny.
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Right.
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Like, a whole bunch of crises come together, and people fuck up along the way.
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And once Trump gets away with everything that he's been doing, we will be 100% there.
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He has...
► 01:51:23
He will?
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And has gotten away with everything.
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Yep.
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And Alex will cheerlead all the way.
► 01:51:30
So, also, a couple more points about this September 15th episode before we get to more clips.
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Yeah.
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It opened with a John Bound report that was about how Assad is a real cool dude doing a great job in Syria.
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All he's doing is fighting ISIS.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Nonsense.
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Fighting ISIS.
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Also, I realized why so many episodes start with a John Bound report, and that is because...
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The radio stations start at 6 of the hour.
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The shows start at 6 after.
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They have their commercials and station identification and what have you.
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Almost every episode of the show now starts with a John Bound report.
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Why is he on every fucking day?
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These reports are terrible.
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It's just because they've got to fill time until the stations actually pick up the show.
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They're doing more pro-Assad stuff, more pro-Russia business.
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Being pro-Assad is such a perfect bellwether of whether or not you should kill yourself.
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Yeah.
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Like, if you're pro-Assad, just fucking die now.
► 01:52:32
I'm okay with that?
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Now.
► 01:52:33
Alex is super mad about a story that he read about L.A. trying to call themselves the capital of Latin America.
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That's fun.
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Well, you know why they did that?
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It was a desperate sales pitch to try and get the Olympics.
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I was going to say, yeah.
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I'm sorry, the World Cup.
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They were trying to get the World Cup to come to LA, and it was part of a PR campaign.
► 01:52:53
Talking about how North America is one and they are the capital of Latin America.
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And Alex is like, no, it's just about the North American Union coming together.
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This is them coming out into the open.
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Globalists.
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No, they wanted to make a ton of money in Los Angeles.
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Well, in regards to the World Cup, a very small amount of people wanted to make a very large amount of money and fuck over everybody.
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And thankfully that didn't happen.
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Yeah.
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Although they...
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We'll probably get the Olympics, so they'll be fucking us over in some way.
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And that's why I had that brain fart calling at the Olympics.
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But be that as it may, we need to check in.
► 01:53:34
Alex, like I said, in that couple days back, called Trump a punk, told him to shut his fat mouth, and then the next day Trump back-paddled and Alex softened.
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So now we've got to check in.
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Alex Jones on the 15th of September has some thoughts about Trump.
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Here's where we're at.
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When I get mad at Rand Paul and say he should be more aggressive and sound more like Trump, it's because I love Rand Paul.
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I know he's for real.
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I support him.
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I want him to win.
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I trust him.
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But I know he's listening to more milquetoast political advisors that say that Trump's going to get destroyed in a general election because he's too extreme.
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He's not extreme.
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I don't know if I trust Trump or not.
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I don't know him, but I do know what he's saying is true, and that's why he's so popular.
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We're back to where we started.
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Of course.
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We have made no progress.
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None.
► 01:54:28
He went, it just went meh, and then back.
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Back, back, yeah.
► 01:54:31
It just, there is a will-they-won't-they thing going on, and the baseline is, I like what he's saying, but I don't trust him.
► 01:54:38
I think his real problem so far seems to be that...
► 01:54:42
Rand Paul actually believes in what Alex Jones says he believes, and Alex Jones doesn't actually believe in what he says he believes.
► 01:54:50
That might be part of the tension.
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That's what it seems to me.
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And I think Rand Paul's a little smarter than Alex.
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Rand Paul is so much smarter than Alex.
► 01:55:00
But in terms of knowing what is possible, what isn't possible, I think Rand Paul's also a fucking dick.
► 01:55:08
Absolutely.
► 01:55:09
Agreed.
► 01:55:10
He's a disaster.
► 01:55:11
But he seems to be an ideologically consistent dick.
► 01:55:14
Which is something that we cannot say about Alex.
► 01:55:17
No, he just said he's cool with partial tyranny.
► 01:55:20
Alex is nonsense.
► 01:55:21
It's a complete mess.
► 01:55:24
Alex is the wind.
► 01:55:25
He blows wherever it may.
► 01:55:27
On this episode, he has that interview with the guy from the Citizens for Guns or whatever.
► 01:55:32
I can't remember the name of the organization.
► 01:55:33
And I'll tell you this.
► 01:55:34
Citizens for Guns.
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It's not important.
► 01:55:36
That might as well be the name.
► 01:55:39
It's just a guy who's super into guns.
► 01:55:42
Yeah.
► 01:55:42
And he has a terrible Skype.
► 01:55:45
He's just sitting in a room doing this interview with Alex.
► 01:55:49
And they end up having this conversation.
► 01:55:53
This is the second instance of complete historical revisionism.
► 01:55:58
I think it's slightly less offensive than the Holocaust denial that Alex engaged in previously, but it is just as whack.
► 01:56:04
Federal government, you can go here and no farther.
► 01:56:07
And if you try...
► 01:56:08
Then the Second Amendment comes into play.
► 01:56:12
To put it a little bit more crudely, we'll point our guns at you if you try to act tyrannically.
► 01:56:17
And that's in the Declaration of Independence, in the Constitution, in the Bill of Rights.
► 01:56:22
The war started over them coming to take the guns.
► 01:56:25
It doesn't matter how many quack professors they pay from Bloomberg.
► 01:56:29
Books claiming it wasn't about guns.
► 01:56:31
It was all about self-defense.
► 01:56:34
It's always about self-defense.
► 01:56:36
It's always about being free.
► 01:56:38
The Revolutionary War was about guns.
► 01:56:42
Yeah.
► 01:56:43
The UK.
► 01:56:43
That's obvious.
► 01:56:44
Okay.
► 01:56:45
Who has not read history?
► 01:56:47
Alex.
► 01:56:47
Don't you remember in 1776 when they wrote the Declaration of Independence, they were like, GUNS!
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That's why it was the Second Amendment.
► 01:56:58
Yeah, I think that there were more issues about taxation, certainly.
► 01:57:04
Alex loves to bring up tariffs when he talks about the Civil War.
► 01:57:06
This one might be more appropriate.
► 01:57:08
There was that.
► 01:57:09
There was the lack of recourse.
► 01:57:11
There was a lack of redress of grievances.
► 01:57:14
There was no representation.
► 01:57:15
Those sorts of issues seem to be more important.
► 01:57:18
I know that the Tea Party, the Boston Tea Party, was not about guns.
► 01:57:24
I know that.
► 01:57:25
Hmm.
► 01:57:27
Maybe it was.
► 01:57:27
What else you got?
► 01:57:28
Maybe it was.
► 01:57:28
What else you got?
► 01:57:29
Maybe they were throwing...
► 01:57:30
Give me six more examples.
► 01:57:32
I don't need to.
► 01:57:33
Alex has no examples.
► 01:57:35
None.
► 01:57:36
It's just an assertion.
► 01:57:38
It's just an assertion that the Revolutionary War was about guns.
► 01:57:43
What?
► 01:57:44
I mean, what do you say to a person who believes that?
► 01:57:50
What do you say to somebody who believes that the Civil War was about states' rights or tariffs?
► 01:57:55
Like, what words are possible?
► 01:57:59
I think that there's a way, though, to like...
► 01:58:02
Tariffs, no, that's not true.
► 01:58:04
But I think there is a way...
► 01:58:06
To look back on what happened in the course of the Civil War and rewrite it reasonably with the state's rights.
► 01:58:17
It's not what was going on then.
► 01:58:19
This is going to be a dangerous argument for me to make.
► 01:58:22
This is already dangerous territory.
► 01:58:24
I think that in hindsight you can make the argument that what they were trying to argue was state's rights.
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That we should be able to decide whatever is legal in our state, federal government, get out, whatever.
► 01:58:38
Like, I think you can do that.
► 01:58:40
You can't use what they were saying back then to make your argument, because it's not true.
► 01:58:45
It's clearly about slavery.
► 01:58:46
Yeah.
► 01:58:46
But you could do that.
► 01:58:48
I don't think you can do that with the Revolutionary War being about guns.
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Absolutely not.
► 01:58:53
Because I don't think that...
► 01:58:54
Do you know what?
► 01:58:55
I don't think the primary disagreement between the British and us was...
► 01:59:01
Gun ownership.
► 01:59:02
Do you know what the primary disagreement that is a through line between the Revolutionary War and the Civil War?
► 01:59:11
What's that?
► 01:59:12
Rich people are fucking us over.
► 01:59:14
Yeah, that's true.
► 01:59:15
That's what the argument has been.
► 01:59:18
That's what the argument has always been.
► 01:59:20
And in the Revolutionary War, it was the rich British are fucking us over.
► 01:59:23
Yep.
► 01:59:24
And the Civil War...
► 01:59:25
It was the rich Southerners are fucking us over.
► 01:59:27
Yeah.
► 01:59:28
It was the rich people are...
► 01:59:32
Okay, and I don't want to pull out a...
► 01:59:36
And the Southerners were rich because they were enslaving people.
► 01:59:38
Well, exactly.
► 01:59:40
And it wasn't even the Southerners.
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It was a very small number of the Southerners.
► 01:59:45
And then it was racism.
► 01:59:47
It was the propaganda that they'd been fed the whole time about how black people aren't even really people.
► 01:59:53
It is always...
► 01:59:55
And I'm not going to pull a hardcore socialist argument out.
► 02:00:01
I am just going to point out the same thing that has always been true, that it's a rich man's war and a poor man's fight.
► 02:00:09
Rich people always wind up fucking fat.
► 02:00:12
Yeah.
► 02:00:13
They always wind up winning.
► 02:00:15
They're smart.
► 02:00:16
Regardless of who wins.
► 02:00:17
Oh, fuck.
► 02:00:18
Fucking fuck.
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Fuck you.
► 02:00:20
They're smart.
► 02:00:21
They're fucking insane.
► 02:00:23
I mean, smart in terms of, like, cunning.
► 02:00:25
In terms of, like, an evil ability to, no matter what the outcome, I'm going to benefit from it.
► 02:00:30
Right.
► 02:00:30
Smart.
► 02:00:31
I mean, rich people.
► 02:00:32
They're privy to more information than everybody else.
► 02:00:35
They're not smart.
► 02:00:37
It's like insider training.
► 02:00:38
It's not like they're brilliant.
► 02:00:40
It's that they know.
► 02:00:42
The guys who voted on the healthcare bill were like, okay, well, we're going to invest in the same day on companies that stand to profit from this exact vote.
► 02:00:56
It's not that they're smarter than us.
► 02:00:57
It's that they're fucking us over.
► 02:00:59
But it's manipulating a system that we allow to continue.
► 02:01:04
Yeah, exactly.
► 02:01:04
So, Jordan.
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Yes.
► 02:01:06
The day before September 15th, something really fucked up happened.
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September 14th.
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September 14th, 2015.
► 02:01:13
Donald Trump had a rally in Texas.
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Okay.
► 02:01:16
And Joe Biggs went to the rally.
► 02:01:19
Oh, I bet he has some insider information we would never have found out without him.
► 02:01:23
Now, I have a couple clips from Joe Biggs reporting about going to the Trump rally that I think bring into sharp focus the moment when Alex Jones realized Trump's the way to go.
► 02:01:39
Really?
► 02:01:39
Yeah.
► 02:01:40
No shit.
► 02:01:41
Now, I'm not entirely sure about this.
► 02:01:45
And Alex doesn't give a lot of indications that I'm correct.
► 02:01:48
But I will make my argument over the course of the next three or four clips.
► 02:01:53
Two or three hours, basically, is what you just said.
► 02:01:56
No, we got way more than that.
► 02:01:58
Here is the first clip of Joe Biggs reporting about going to the Trump rally.
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And, again...
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It is not what you'd expect.
► 02:02:06
Gotta get to the Trump situation.
► 02:02:07
So you're up there for Lord Trumpus.
► 02:02:09
What happened?
► 02:02:10
I went in there with an open mind.
► 02:02:13
He says a lot of good things out there.
► 02:02:15
He's definitely a crowd pleaser.
► 02:02:17
And I wrote down on this piece of paper that he was lackluster.
► 02:02:20
He's lackluster in the sense that he's not motivated or convicted in a sense when it comes to the issues at hand.
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Issues that a presidential candidate should have conviction in, have knowledge in.
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When he's asked...
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Certain questions about these issues, he doesn't have a really good answer.
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He doesn't know what he's doing.
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He kind of reminded me of Rodney Dangerfield with these one-liners.
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Like, hey, we got a border problem, huh?
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What are we going to do about it?
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Let's build a wall.
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All right, so what is a wall going to do?
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All he does is he brings problems to the table without a solution.
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And that's what I heard last night.
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A whole lot of problems being brought to the table without him giving any kind of clear path to how he was going to give a solution to these.
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We know a wall won't work contiguously.
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What really works is prosecuting people that hire illegals.
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So at this point, Joe Biggs is doing slightly reasonable reporting.
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That actually sounds pretty reasonable.
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And I'm going to get into this next clip.
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It's scary.
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But that's the beginning of the two of them kind of advocating for reasonable, moderate immigration reform.
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And Trump, or Jones...
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Saying that a wall won't work is mind-boggling.
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When months later, he's screaming about a wall.
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We need a wall.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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A wall is the most important thing.
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Guatemala, there's a wall on the border of Guatemala and Mexico, which there isn't.
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Later, a couple days past this, he has an interview with Jesse Ventura.
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And Jesse Ventura lives in Mexico.
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Yeah.
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And he's like, what about the wall between Mexico and Guatemala?
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And he's like, I don't know if that exists.
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It doesn't.
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It 100% doesn't.
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Of course not.
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He's like, I've never been down there.
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I don't know.
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Like, well, look into it.
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It doesn't exist.
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The last wall that was similar to the one that Trump proposes was the Berlin Wall.
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Which Jesse Ventura also brings up a bunch.
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Yeah.
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He's great for it.
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But at this point, like, Joe Biggs is making sense.
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He's absolutely making sense.
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I feel like you're about to bring the hammer down.
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Not yet.
► 02:04:21
Trump has a bunch of problems.
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No solutions.
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He's up there.
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He doesn't have a grasp of the issues.
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Doesn't know what he's talking about.
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He's just coming in with Rodney Dangerfield-style one-liners.
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But he's a showman.
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Kind of makes sense.
► 02:04:35
In this next clip, they talk a little bit more about immigrant stuff.
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And Alex is surprisingly moderate.
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It's very weird.
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For the months that we've listened to him screaming about how the globalists are trying to flood us with people and we need to get rid of them or not let them in.
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Comparing the man we know now versus the man that we're talking about.
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No, I'm talking about the last few months in 2015.
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Oh, in 2015.
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Yeah, he's been screaming about fucking immigrants the whole time that we've been doing this investigation.
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No, absolutely.
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Yeah, so I'm not talking about present-day Alex.
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But I'm just talking about the present-day Alex versus the previous Alex in terms of the wall.
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Right, right, right.
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That boggles my mind.
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It's nuts.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's nuts.
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It's complete evidence that he's sold himself out.
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His principles mean nothing.
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Agreed.
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So here is, I've labeled this clip, Joe and Alex seem very moderate on immigration reform.
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You know, Donald Trump said in two years he's going to have every illegal out of the country.
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The only way you can do that, it was just like I was talking to my college alien back there.
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It would be like Nazi Germany.
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They're going to have to go door to door and find, are you an American?
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I need to see proof.
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And that's what's going to happen.
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That's the only way you're going to get all the illegals out.
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But then at the same time, you still have illegals in the country who want to do good.
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And we're not even saying, all we're saying is don't say free welfare, free babies, come here and have the Democrats sign them up to anti-gun groups and give them fake voting cards.
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Guns!
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But at the same time, that's reasonable.
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If that was his actual position and if it reflected reality in any way, that's a pretty reasonable position.
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It's not terrible.
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It's not what he actually believes.
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Of course not.
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It's the way he presents things.
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That's like a McCain...
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Republican idea.
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In 2008 when McCain ran, that's the kind of idea of like, hey, we know a lot of people are good, but we just don't want you taking advantage of a system.
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And so we're going to take steps to stop that.
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And as we already have covered when Jesse Ventura was last on, he was talking about like, I'm not sure if these people are getting the...
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They're not, because it's not possible.
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Right.
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But if they are, why would you not blame the system as opposed to the person who is just trying to survive?
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Exactly.
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And that is a far more reasonable stance.
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But Joe Biggs is coming in here.
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And Trump is saying he's going to get rid of all the illegal immigrants, and he's like, that's impossible without turning into a fucking police state.
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Yep.
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Absolutely not.
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Which would require some sort of tyranny.
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Yeah, Joe Biggs is pushing back against that, and Alex is fine with the push.
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Yeah.
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It's crazy.
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This next clip...
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Do we just diverge entirely from that?
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No, not yet.
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No, not yet?
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What is happening?
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This next clip is still sensible.
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We're not even critics of Trump here.
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I mean, Joe just wanted them to see what he was really like.
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Yeah, but a lot of it is like a Rodney Dangerfield one-liner.
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Why do folks like him so much then?
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He's a crowd pleaser.
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He definitely knows how to work a crowd, and that's what he was doing.
► 02:07:42
He didn't have, the first thing he talked about when he showed up, hey, this is teleprompter free, we don't have any, and he rambled on about how he made $215 million on The Apprentice.
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It took 30 minutes before he even named an issue, and when he did, he talked about this vague tax plan that he had, and that in a few weeks he's going to release this, you know...
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Sure, he appealed like a carnival barker to success.
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Everyone was in there screaming and yelling, women crying, babies screaming, signs flying up through the air.
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Well, that just shows how desperate people are.
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So, basically, he's just saying there's no substance to what he's saying.
► 02:08:15
He's a showman, he's a carnival barker.
► 02:08:18
But at the end there, they're talking about how...
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Even with that lack of substance, people are going crazy.
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They were in an arena that was full of people.
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Trump is able to draw these crowds, these massive crowds that are mind-blowing.
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Oh, he would be booked at the improv immediately.
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Totally.
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He could do it.
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Oh, yeah.
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He's like Steve-O.
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He's terrible, but fuck it.
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He can get a weekend.
► 02:08:44
Yeah, yeah, of course.
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Trump's stapling his balls to his leg.
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Now I'd pay for that.
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Yeah.
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So I think that this is sort of...
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I would pay for me stapling Trump's balls to his leg.
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I don't know why you need to do it.
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That's weird.
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Oh, I need to do it.
► 02:08:57
So this next clip, I think we've heard a lot of a very reasonable perspective that Joe Biggs has from going to this Trump rally.
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Yeah.
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But I think we're going to start to see here...
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It's going to start to deteriorate.
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Well, maybe...
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This will be the beginning of the end.
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Maybe.
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And I'll make my point after this clip and the next one.
► 02:09:21
Also, do you know how great Todd Glass is?
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It's hilarious.
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I can't stop.
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And any time you bring up Rodney Dangerfield now, I don't think of Rodney Dangerfield.
► 02:09:29
I think of Todd Glass doing Mitch Hedberg jokes in Rodney Dangerfield's voice.
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He's the best.
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It's just amazing.
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Anyway, not the best is this.
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Well, I definitely had an agenda when I went up there as well.
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I wore my Hillary for Prison 2016 t-shirt under my suit.
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By the way, that's a bestseller.
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We have photos.
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At least you sent me those photos, Joe.
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Yeah, yeah.
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They should be all on my Twitter right now as well.
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And I have footage of myself.
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I'm in the front row.
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I snuck up to the front row.
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And I'm sitting there.
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I'm kind of getting nervous a little bit.
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I was like, all right, I got to do it.
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I got to do it.
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And I undid my shirt like Superman.
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And you could see the Hillary for Prison shirt.
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And I jumped up and screamed right in a lull, like a little silence part.
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And I go, Hillary for Prison!
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And Trump's like, yeah, Hillary!
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And he's like pointing at me.
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So if you guys have that clip, we can show it really quick.
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Did not happen.
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Did that for real happen?
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It did.
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It did.
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Wow.
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Well, what happened was...
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So he's like the Daft Punk in 2007.
► 02:10:29
Trump is in the middle of saying something that the crowd likes, and Joe Biggs rips his shirt open, and he's got Hillary for prison.
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He yells Hillary for prison.
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And Trump is like, You know who's not surging in the polls?
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Hillary.
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And he's like, thank you.
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And he just points over at Joe Biggs.
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That's the extent of the interaction.
► 02:10:47
But hear me out on this.
► 02:10:48
So Joe Biggs has been jerking off for three years based on that, right?
► 02:10:52
Joe Biggs went there as a marketing possibility.
► 02:10:56
The idea of going there and finding out what's going on with Trump was secondary to the idea of field testing this Hillary for prison shirt.
► 02:11:04
So he goes there as a marketing opportunity because Trump has pulled an arena full of people to Texas, which there might be audience crossover with.
► 02:11:14
So Joe Biggs goes down there, he does the Superman thing, and people seem to really like it.
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Now listen to this next clip.
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Oh no.
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So I opened up my shirt and the entire crowd erupted.
► 02:11:25
And you can see these different reporters or a man get standing ovation for showing his Hillary for prison shirt.
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And it got to a point where I just ended up pulling the blazer off in the top and just had the shirt going.
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And see, anybody could have done what you...
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I love the fact you always went with great ideas.
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You're always making the news.
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You're always making people, you know, link into what we're doing.
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Great job, Joe.
► 02:11:43
Well, I'm telling you, I probably told the least.
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This is probably, you know, nice.
► 02:11:47
Probably a thousand people what InfoWars was.
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I want to see the spike in the site last night because people are all on their phone.
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Where do I get that?
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I was like, you gotta go to the Infowars store, man.
► 02:11:56
You're gonna love it.
► 02:11:57
So sorry about the sound on the clips from this episode.
► 02:12:00
It was just glitchy and there was nothing I could do about it.
► 02:12:02
But beyond that, I think that this is the moment.
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This is it.
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The Hillary for prison shirt.
► 02:12:09
Yeah.
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It's because of the potential sales of Hillary for prison shirts.
► 02:12:14
I think that they don't say it there at all.
► 02:12:18
But I fucking love and hate how my perspective keeps changing based on the information that we keep getting.
► 02:12:26
But I legitimately think that that moment for them is transformative.
► 02:12:32
Because they realize this is a whole market we can tap into.
► 02:12:35
Your argument is Alex Jones loves Trump now because of t-shirt sales.
► 02:12:42
Well, even go beyond t-shirt sales.
► 02:12:44
It's a market, a fertile market that we can tap into.
► 02:12:48
Alex Jones couldn't get an arena of people to show up somewhere.
► 02:12:51
Of course not.
► 02:12:52
Trump shows up to town.
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He's got a whole stadium full of people.
► 02:12:55
Joe Biggs comes in, charms him, does some, like, grifty door-to-door salesmanship with their shirts.
► 02:13:01
I imagine behind the scenes they did see- What do I need you to do to get you into a t-shirt today?
► 02:13:06
I imagine- I don't know this, but I imagine behind the scenes they saw a spike in traffic to the site, probably got a bunch of sales from it, and they're like- This might be something we need to do.
► 02:13:16
Wow.
► 02:13:16
So I think that...
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I mean, I think we always knew that there would be some sort of crass capitalism to it.
► 02:13:22
Totally.
► 02:13:22
But this is...
► 02:13:23
This is too much, right?
► 02:13:25
Well, that's field testing it, though.
► 02:13:27
Yeah.
► 02:13:27
That's taking it to the streets.
► 02:13:29
Taking it to the streets!
► 02:13:31
All right.
► 02:13:31
Quote the doobs.
► 02:13:32
All right, we're done with that.
► 02:13:33
So that's where we leave off on the 15th.
► 02:13:38
There's a whole bunch of other...
► 02:13:39
Dumb bullshit that happens on that show.
► 02:13:41
Alex Jones does reveal, he doesn't want to reveal it, but he does say that it costs him over $15 million to run InfoWars for a year.
► 02:13:51
Okay.
► 02:13:52
So, if you take that number and you consider...
► 02:13:56
That seems honest.
► 02:13:58
That seems to make sense, right?
► 02:14:00
About $15 million makes sense.
► 02:14:03
Well, yeah, it's...
► 02:14:05
It's in the realm of believable, especially considering he runs it out of Texas and what have you.
► 02:14:09
Say he's exaggerating as always.
► 02:14:11
I would say 10 million does make sense, though.
► 02:14:14
Let's meet in the middle at 12. But be that as it may, it doesn't matter.
► 02:14:18
I'm glad you and I can come to a detente on this.
► 02:14:21
It doesn't really matter whether the number is 10 or 15. Right.
► 02:14:25
Because the money bomb that we're about to get into, because we're about to jump into the 16th, which is the beginning of the money bomb.
► 02:14:32
28-hour live broadcast.
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Jesus.
► 02:14:35
He doesn't...
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He's trying to make a million dollars.
► 02:14:39
Yeah.
► 02:14:39
So that...
► 02:14:40
Publicly, he's trying to make a million dollars.
► 02:14:43
Right, but...
► 02:14:43
He's trying to make a certain amount of money.
► 02:14:45
Hopefully, it's a million.
► 02:14:46
Right, but all of the things that he says he wants to do with that million dollars is weird hypothetical stuff about shooting the show into Europe.
► 02:14:56
Which he said already, we're not going to do that immediately, we're going to get the satellites, blah blah blah.
► 02:15:02
And then the rest of it is stuff he's already doing.
► 02:15:06
Paying for reporters, paying for cameras, paying for syndication, paying for closed captioning.
► 02:15:14
He's doing all of that already.
► 02:15:16
So all of that million dollars is just operating expenses that he already has accrued.
► 02:15:22
The idea that he needs this million dollars for Future stuff.
► 02:15:27
Expansion.
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Is absurd.
► 02:15:27
If you watch, I watch them.
► 02:15:29
Because these are, I watch this shit on YouTube.
► 02:15:32
Yeah.
► 02:15:33
His studio looks exactly the same as it does now.
► 02:15:36
There is no, from 2015 to 2017, there is no discernible change that has been made in terms of the studio.
► 02:15:45
Yeah, but there's upkeep.
► 02:15:47
There are no people who are there that aren't...
► 02:15:51
Rapaport.
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No, fuck off.
► 02:15:53
Rapaport works for free.
► 02:15:56
Rappaport probably does work for free.
► 02:15:58
Rappaport's a soldier.
► 02:15:58
Rappaport probably does work for free.
► 02:16:01
But hear me out.
► 02:16:02
The way I wanted to end that sentence is there isn't a greater number of people that work there that aren't balanced out by the less number of people who have quit since this change happened.
► 02:16:12
So there isn't really a wide expansion that has happened.
► 02:16:18
He's pretended that an expansion in his audience has happened.
► 02:16:22
If you look at the statistics that are available on Quantcast and other tracking sources, that hasn't happened.
► 02:16:29
If you look at the numbers that are on his YouTube videos, even, they aren't what he says they are.
► 02:16:33
Unless you add all of them up and assume that all of them are different people.
► 02:16:37
But be that as it may, he's trying to raise money for a fictitious thing that didn't happen.
► 02:16:43
Yeah.
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Now, I understand your point.
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To me, though...
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It seems like it's exactly the same thing as an NPR.
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Like, hey, we do live entirely upon public money.
► 02:17:00
But because he can't supplicate himself, because he can't be somebody who asks for operating costs, he has to say it this way.
► 02:17:10
It's possible.
► 02:17:11
Like a hyper-masculine NPR?
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It's a fundraiser.
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It's a hyper-masculine fundraiser.
► 02:17:18
That's what it seems like to me so far.
► 02:17:21
Right, but typically NPR is not going to go hypothetically out of business if they don't make the money by the end of the year.
► 02:17:28
True.
► 02:17:29
And I feel the panic in Alex.
► 02:17:31
I don't think he's going to go out of business.
► 02:17:32
He would have to...
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Reduce his standard of living.
► 02:17:36
Yeah, exactly.
► 02:17:37
The reason that it strikes me as false, and I understand what you're saying, and I think there is a kernel of it, because...
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I know that it's easy for us to give a pass to NPR because we're bougie-ass liberals and be like, hey, Alex is trying to raise money.
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What a dumbass.
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And that's what he would think we're doing.
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Which, by the way, you can donate to Knowledge Fight if you go to the Knowledge Fight website and click on our link.
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Thank you to all the policy wonks.
► 02:18:02
No, for real.
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Thank you to all the policy wonks.
► 02:18:04
That's not at all what I'm getting at.
► 02:18:06
The circumstances of it are much more interesting.
► 02:18:11
Because he's presenting a fictitious expansion of the show.
► 02:18:15
So that's one.
► 02:18:16
Right.
► 02:18:17
He's doing it at the end of the fiscal year, which is two.
► 02:18:21
And then the third is he's in this will-they-won't-they situation with Trump that is super fucked up.
► 02:18:28
That's the thing I think we're talking about.
► 02:18:31
It's not about that he needs money.
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It's that because he needs money, there is motive there in order to make the pivot.
► 02:18:41
Right.
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That's what we're talking about.
► 02:18:42
And then maybe...
► 02:18:44
So NPR is never going to do a fundraiser and then stealth vote for a candidate because of it.
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No.
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Legitimate news sources don't have...
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They aren't doing subversive marketing.
► 02:18:59
The Guardian is now saying, like, hey...
► 02:19:05
Journalism needs to be paid for.
► 02:19:08
And rather than put us behind a paywall, we need you to donate to it.
► 02:19:13
Or we'd like it if you donated to it.
► 02:19:15
At no point would The Guardian all of a sudden become the fucking Daily Mail because Trump gave them...
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Well, at least we would hope not.
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I would hope not.
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Because Trump gave them $10 million or whatever.
► 02:19:30
Legitimately, I believe that there is probably...
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A future better civilization that involves all public financing for presidential campaigns, political campaigns, and journalism.
► 02:19:46
Public financing for campaigns and journalism does make a lot of sense.
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Those sorts of things need to be incredibly unbiased.
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And it's impossible to have no bias.
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Like, we fucking hate Alex Jones, and we hate Trump.
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But at the same time...
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.
► 02:20:00
I'm unbiased about Trump.
► 02:20:01
I think you can go back and look at my previous statements and note that I have no bias towards Trump.
► 02:20:07
Our bias is incredibly clear, but at the same time, when Alex Jones has said stuff that's like, yeah, rock and roll, we've been totally cool with it.
► 02:20:15
We don't hate him in such a way that we will never give him props.
► 02:20:19
Also, Alex, you really need to look into what Jeff Sessions is doing with civil asset forfeiture.
► 02:20:25
Oh my god.
► 02:20:26
So far, no comment on that that I've seen.
► 02:20:28
He might have talked about it and I missed it.
► 02:20:30
If it did, I apologize.
► 02:20:31
So if Sessions did or didn't commit a crime because he's under investigation for it, don't we get to take his stuff by his own rules?
► 02:20:44
That's a great point.
► 02:20:45
Don't we get to steal his stuff?
► 02:20:47
You gotta seize those assets.
► 02:20:48
I wanna seize his assets.
► 02:20:50
Can we make a citizen civil forfeiture?
► 02:20:53
That would be great.
► 02:20:55
I would just like to take like maybe 60 bucks from him.
► 02:20:57
Oh, absolutely.
► 02:20:58
Help me get to the end of the month.
► 02:21:00
So, speaking of things that have to do with money, Jordan, it is time for The Money Bomb!
► 02:21:12
Here's the bad news.
► 02:21:13
Let's edit that out.
► 02:21:15
Let's edit out our...
► 02:21:16
No, that's staying in.
► 02:21:17
That's staying in.
► 02:21:18
Don't want it.
► 02:21:19
The Money Bomb is incredibly boring.
► 02:21:23
Of course it is.
► 02:21:25
27 hours or whatever the fuck it was?
► 02:21:27
I didn't watch any of it that didn't have Alex Jones on it.
► 02:21:30
Smart.
► 02:21:31
But there is one piece that I wish I had watched that I didn't watch and I won't.
► 02:21:36
Because why would I do that?
► 02:21:38
Why would I put myself through it?
► 02:21:39
Yeah, you've already hurt yourself enough on our behalf.
► 02:21:42
Here's something that we didn't realize about the money bomb.
► 02:21:46
It is at the end of the fiscal year.
► 02:21:48
But do you know what else happened on September 16th?
► 02:21:51
No!
► 02:21:52
The second Republican...
► 02:21:54
Presidential debate.
► 02:21:56
Ooh!
► 02:21:57
So they timed it to be on the night of the debate.
► 02:22:00
Oh shit, that's really smart.
► 02:22:02
Yeah.
► 02:22:02
That's really smart of them.
► 02:22:04
Yeah.
► 02:22:04
You gotta give them credit for that.
► 02:22:05
That's brilliant.
► 02:22:06
So during the debate, what they did is Leanne McAdoo, David Knight, and I think Rob Dew?
► 02:22:11
I can't remember the third person.
► 02:22:13
Uh-huh.
► 02:22:13
But they had a panel that Mystery Science Theatered.
► 02:22:16
The debate.
► 02:22:18
So what they did is they had their silhouettes.
► 02:22:20
No shit.
► 02:22:22
Full on the backs of their heads.
► 02:22:24
Fucking wow.
► 02:22:25
And I saw a couple clips of it and it's lunacy.
► 02:22:30
They didn't even hire Mike Nelson for like a day?
► 02:22:33
Nothing.
► 02:22:34
No professionals on this.
► 02:22:36
No fake robot either.
► 02:22:38
Alex, it would be so easy to just create a robot to put in there.
► 02:22:42
You could get even probably the real gypsy.
► 02:22:43
Who cares?
► 02:22:44
Oh.
► 02:22:44
He hates gypsies, though.
► 02:22:46
I should be clear about that.
► 02:22:47
All right.
► 02:22:47
I don't like even using the word gypsy.
► 02:22:49
On September 10th, he did talk about how the gypsies have free reign to steal RVs in Europe.
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Nope.
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That's a fucking racist thing from the 1700s.
► 02:23:01
What are you doing talking about gypsies?
► 02:23:03
It's wild.
► 02:23:04
So, the schedule of the 27-hour, 28-hour broadcast.
► 02:23:09
It was really disappointing.
► 02:23:12
They had that, you know, mystery science theater, blah, blah.
► 02:23:16
They had Alex Jones for his show on the beginning of it, on the 16th, and the Alex Jones show on the 17th.
► 02:23:25
Beyond that, it was just like, their reporters tag-teamed, like Kit Daniels did a show.
► 02:23:31
Never, never heard Kit Daniels.
► 02:23:33
He's a writer.
► 02:23:33
He's a writer guy.
► 02:23:34
He's not really on air all that much.
► 02:23:37
That always goes well when you put a writer guy on air.
► 02:23:41
Some of these other guys, like, just people, Rob Dew interviewed Leo Zagami, you know, the Illuminati insider who hates the Pope.
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They did that at midnight.
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Not at midnight.
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That was, like, 2 a.m.
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It was just nonsense.
► 02:23:55
They had fucking Paul Joseph Watson doing a bunch of stuff on the off hours because he's on Greenwich Mean Time.
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So, it's, again...
► 02:24:03
You're doing an overnight thing where no one has to stay up overnight, except for Rob Dew.
► 02:24:08
But be that as it may.
► 02:24:09
Look, Rob Dew is kind of our tortured slave of Infowars here.
► 02:24:15
I start to like him more and more as time goes on.
► 02:24:18
I'm not comfortable with that.
► 02:24:19
He's kind of, to me, he's kind of a Charlie Brown, like...
► 02:24:24
There's the football right there and Rob Dew is about to kick it and it is always pulled out from underneath.
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I think behind the scenes he's probably way worse than he appears because he just seems so boring.
► 02:24:36
I bet behind the scenes he's a dick.
► 02:24:38
Probably.
► 02:24:38
Because how would you stay in this business for like years?
► 02:24:41
That's a really good point.
► 02:24:42
Unless he's Renfield.
► 02:24:44
Have you considered that he is actually mind controlled by Alex Jones?
► 02:24:48
No, because I don't consider those sorts of things because they're lunatic.
► 02:24:51
I think there's a decent chance there's a good person behind Rob Dew, and that sucks, because he's so fucking boring.
► 02:24:57
But be that as it may, what we're going to be talking about is specifically and only the Alex Jones portions of the Money Bomb.
► 02:25:05
So we're going to start with the 16th.
► 02:25:08
Alex Jones wants to talk to you about his audience size.
► 02:25:11
Oh boy.
► 02:25:12
I bet it's pretty big.
► 02:25:13
They brought in the metrics to my house last night, Buckley Hammond and Anthony Gucciardi that I have working.
► 02:25:19
With outside IT consulting firms.
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And they said, you're giving people two-year-old numbers.
► 02:25:24
Here they are.
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They pulled them up in front of me on all the big third-party sites and our own internal server systems.
► 02:25:30
InfoWars now reaches 41 million individual different people a month.
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This is where we get the 41 million.
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It has a reach of 1.4 billion total views on the website.
► 02:25:41
Nope.
► 02:25:42
If you count all of our social media, it is several billion more individual users.
► 02:25:48
We did a metric run with a major company and looked at our YouTube views just on the top 500 sites carrying our videos.
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And it's over 150 million views a month.
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And so they're now collating all of that data we'll be releasing soon.
► 02:26:04
But it appears we're reaching upwards of three and a half billion individual people per month.
► 02:26:10
There is six.
► 02:26:11
What?
► 02:26:12
What?
► 02:26:16
How many people even live on the planet in your world?
► 02:26:20
It's insane.
► 02:26:21
What?
► 02:26:23
In full disclosure.
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So six out of the seven billion people on this fucking planet have internet access.
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Which isn't true at all.
► 02:26:32
That's not even close to true.
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No.
► 02:26:36
Between 3.2 and 3.6 billion have internet.
► 02:26:41
Oh, okay.
► 02:26:41
Well, then all of them, all of them are Alex Jones listeners.
► 02:26:47
Here's something that's very interesting.
► 02:26:49
700 billion of those people who have internet access?
► 02:26:52
700 million of those people.
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I'm sorry.
► 02:26:54
700 million of those people live in China.
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None of them have access to Infowars.
► 02:26:59
Oh, that's right!
► 02:27:00
They don't even have access to it!
► 02:27:02
No way.
► 02:27:02
It's censored!
► 02:27:03
Holy shit!
► 02:27:04
That's almost a billion of the people who have access to the internet, who have a censored internet.
► 02:27:10
Alex Jones spends all his time talking about the chai comms and shit.
► 02:27:14
There's no way they can watch it.
► 02:27:16
No shit!
► 02:27:17
Of course not!
► 02:27:17
So that's 700 million of them.
► 02:27:19
Now it's literally impossible.
► 02:27:22
Well, that covers...
► 02:27:23
So he said there's 6 billion listening to him.
► 02:27:26
Uh-huh.
► 02:27:26
Right.
► 02:27:27
So that $700 million covers the extra billion?
► 02:27:30
No, because he's talking about the people who have access to the...
► 02:27:33
Oh, that's right!
► 02:27:34
It's only 3.5 million who actually listen.
► 02:27:37
3.5 billion who actually listen to him.
► 02:27:39
No, no, no.
► 02:27:40
He's saying that they reach.
► 02:27:42
What does that even fucking mean?
► 02:27:44
It's bullshit internet social media nonsense.
► 02:27:47
It's the same reason he says that Paul Joseph Watson's videos have millions of views.
► 02:27:52
It's because they post them on Facebook and people scroll past it.
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It autoplays and that counts as a play.
► 02:27:59
Is that real?
► 02:28:00
That actually counts as a play?
► 02:28:02
Yeah, you look at all these nonsense videos that no one's watching, like ad videos, and it says like two million videos.
► 02:28:09
I haven't been on Facebook for a good year now.
► 02:28:11
I remember this from back when I was trolling around on that dumb site.
► 02:28:17
Looking up old girlfriends.
► 02:28:21
That's what most people do.
► 02:28:24
Also, we really have to point out, He's double, triple, and quadruple counting shit.
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There's absolutely no way.
► 02:28:33
Because he's talking about the top hundred sites that post our videos.
► 02:28:36
Which we've already established is, he's at like, what?
► 02:28:39
He's not even in...
► 02:28:41
The top 200?
► 02:28:42
No, no, no.
► 02:28:43
He's talking about the places that post his...
► 02:28:44
Oh, okay.
► 02:28:45
Okay, okay.
► 02:28:46
But do you understand how YouTube's analytics work?
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Yes.
► 02:28:50
If you...
► 02:28:50
Well, I mean, no, but as you've explained them to me in regards to Alex Jonesy, yes.
► 02:28:55
If you embed a video on your blog, let's say, from YouTube, and someone plays it from the blog, it counts as a hit on YouTube.
► 02:29:06
But if there is, you know, this...
► 02:29:10
This blog post that is about your video, you can count that as another hit.
► 02:29:15
So it's two hits for every single person who does either.
► 02:29:20
Right.
► 02:29:20
So you've already doubled your hits even though it's only one view.
► 02:29:23
Yeah.
► 02:29:24
And Alex Jones is doing that all over the fucking place.
► 02:29:27
So if there's like five websites, all of them you read because you're an avid info warrior.
► 02:29:33
Right.
► 02:29:33
And there's probably like...
► 02:29:35
You get ten views.
► 02:29:35
WorldNet Daily reposts their stuff.
► 02:29:38
Yeah.
► 02:29:39
Breitbart has, in the past, reposted their links and their videos.
► 02:29:44
How many...
► 02:29:45
Well, just with the emails Trump has sent out to all of his donors with Infowars links on it.
► 02:29:51
And he's actually...
► 02:29:52
In that link, there was a video embedded.
► 02:29:55
Yeah, of course.
► 02:29:56
So that counts.
► 02:29:57
That counts double.
► 02:29:59
There's massive manipulation going on there in terms of the audience size.
► 02:30:03
And that is exactly how you want to start the money bomb.
► 02:30:07
Of course.
► 02:30:07
That's how you want to start it.
► 02:30:09
We're reaching 3.5 billion people a month.
► 02:30:13
That's everyone in the world.
► 02:30:15
Because consider it.
► 02:30:16
Think about how many children there are.
► 02:30:18
You know what I'm saying?
► 02:30:20
We talk about there being 7 billion people, 7.5 billion people in the world.
► 02:30:25
How many of those people are under 12?
► 02:30:26
Most of them are dying and most of them are just born.
► 02:30:29
Yeah.
► 02:30:30
So 3.5 billion is every adult, basically.
► 02:30:34
Yeah, that is basic.
► 02:30:35
That's more than every adult.
► 02:30:37
Basically.
► 02:30:38
Wow.
► 02:30:38
And then you consider the amount of people who have no internet access.
► 02:30:41
You consider Chinese.
► 02:30:43
And they're not the only country that restricts the internet.
► 02:30:46
No, of course not.
► 02:30:47
So you have other countries that have blocked internet.
► 02:30:49
Yeah.
► 02:30:49
Saudi Arabia.
► 02:30:51
Absolutely.
► 02:30:51
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 02:30:52
You consider those populations, his numbers make no fucking sense.
► 02:30:55
His best way of trying to...
► 02:30:57
At best, he's reaching 10 guys.
► 02:30:59
Yeah.
► 02:30:59
And one of them's me.
► 02:31:01
Yeah.
► 02:31:02
So you're down 10%.
► 02:31:03
Exactly.
► 02:31:04
Yeah.
► 02:31:05
He tries to sort of like couch it and he's like, now maybe people are coming to our site from different devices.
► 02:31:13
So maybe we're reaching a billion a month.
► 02:31:15
And even that's crazy.
► 02:31:17
So wait.
► 02:31:17
So if you check your Facebook on your computer, and then you check your Facebook on your phone, that counts as a different view.
► 02:31:26
Well, I think if you track IP addresses, yeah.
► 02:31:30
I think that is the case.
► 02:31:31
Especially if you're using mobile.
► 02:31:33
Like if you're on the bus and you check your Facebook, it would be different than you checking it from your laptop at home.
► 02:31:38
So that's multiple views on top of that.
► 02:31:40
Yeah.
► 02:31:40
And it makes it incredibly difficult to tell exactly what your metrics are.
► 02:31:45
Unless you have...
► 02:31:47
He's not doing legit work in terms of statistics.
► 02:31:51
No, no, no.
► 02:31:52
It's so crazy to me, but I love it.
► 02:31:54
Of course not.
► 02:31:54
I love it.
► 02:31:55
I love it.
► 02:31:56
That's the kind of stuff I love.
► 02:31:58
Because after that...
► 02:31:59
Because it's math.
► 02:32:00
There's no arguing with math.
► 02:32:03
All of this other stuff, we can deal with reality versus non-reality.
► 02:32:08
And there is a question there, and there are kernels of truth.
► 02:32:11
In this regard, it is pure analytics.
► 02:32:14
You're lying.
► 02:32:15
And you know you're lying.
► 02:32:18
Yeah.
► 02:32:19
And I cut the clip, and where he goes from there is to talk about how, like, I'm humbled that I'm talking to this many people.
► 02:32:26
It's like...
► 02:32:27
Do you know you're lying?
► 02:32:29
What's going on here?
► 02:32:30
He knows.
► 02:32:31
He has to know.
► 02:32:32
It's this presentation of humility that's really fascinating.
► 02:32:36
He has to know.
► 02:32:37
There's no possible way he doesn't know.
► 02:32:39
Alex, beyond his bullshit about his audience size, he has some other things he wants to talk about on The Money Bomb.
► 02:32:45
In this next one, Jordan...
► 02:32:48
I've said a lot of things are not true that Alex Jones says in the past.
► 02:32:53
I don't know how many, but it's astronomical.
► 02:32:57
It's maybe three and a half billion things that you have said are not true that Alex has said.
► 02:33:01
This next one is bigly not true.
► 02:33:03
Ooh, I don't like that one.
► 02:33:05
Because I never get scared when I'm awake during the day.
► 02:33:08
I always start crying when I think about this because I don't want to leave my kids alone now more than ever.
► 02:33:14
My children need me now more than ever.
► 02:33:15
I'm pretty much...
► 02:33:17
I'm the only people there for them.
► 02:33:18
And I know in my heart that as all this unfolds, this show's going to get bigger and more popular to a dangerous level because we know what's going on.
► 02:33:28
I've been told by top globalists that I'll be just fine until all this comes true, and then that's when I better stop.
► 02:33:35
I want to go back there.
► 02:33:37
Yeah, go back and play that.
► 02:33:38
I got angry and it screwed everything up.
► 02:33:41
I apologize.
► 02:33:41
It's alright.
► 02:33:42
And I've been told by top globalists that...
► 02:33:44
I'll be just fine until all this comes true, and then that's when I better stop.
► 02:33:50
And the criticism is, what do you want money for if you're ready to stop?
► 02:33:53
Oh, I'm not going to stop during the collapse.
► 02:33:54
I'm going to go to the next level and put everything on the table and be all in.
► 02:33:58
That's what you do when the enemy comes in like a flood.
► 02:34:02
This is the end of the West, the end of humanity as we know it.
► 02:34:05
This is a total satanic takeover.
► 02:34:07
Don't you understand it's real?
► 02:34:09
No, it's not.
► 02:34:11
But...
► 02:34:11
He got told by a top globalist.
► 02:34:13
What top globalists are talking?
► 02:34:15
George Soros?
► 02:34:16
Is he hanging out with Soros?
► 02:34:18
Why is he?
► 02:34:19
What?
► 02:34:20
Okay, you believe that the globalists are demonic beings from a different dimension.
► 02:34:29
Which I would say, if that is true, if you see one, kill it.
► 02:34:34
Yeah, right?
► 02:34:34
Yeah.
► 02:34:35
Right?
► 02:34:35
Why would you have a patient conversation?
► 02:34:38
Why would you go to a cocktail party with one?
► 02:34:41
Hey, listen.
► 02:34:41
I know you're a demonic monster hellbent on destroying humanity.
► 02:34:45
Right.
► 02:34:46
But, come on.
► 02:34:46
You got any juicy inside tips for me?
► 02:34:49
Like, what are you...
► 02:34:49
I'm doing a radio show.
► 02:34:50
Come on, man.
► 02:34:51
Am I safe?
► 02:34:52
Yeah.
► 02:34:52
Am I safe?
► 02:34:53
That's right, because that's what he's talking about.
► 02:34:56
Yeah.
► 02:34:56
He's talking to these top globalists who are like, keep on your...
► 02:34:59
Keep on your shit.
► 02:35:02
Until we win.
► 02:35:03
In which case, you better get out.
► 02:35:06
This goes back to what we were talking about at the beginning of this episode.
► 02:35:08
This idea of the internet version of the elites and the Illuminati.
► 02:35:14
They need to have everyone know what they're doing.
► 02:35:17
It's that lesser magic idea.
► 02:35:20
You need to know what we're doing to you, and then if you don't do anything, you consent to it.
► 02:35:26
They're using Alex as a conduit.
► 02:35:29
to tell people what they're doing to them.
► 02:35:31
And if they don't fight back, then whatever.
► 02:35:34
Unfucking believable.
► 02:35:36
What's magical about that entire line of argument is, hey, the only way to really fight back is give Alex Jones money.
► 02:35:42
Yeah.
► 02:35:43
He's the only one who's saying this crazy bullshit.
► 02:35:46
I guess if I don't really support him, then I consented to being destroyed.
► 02:35:51
And then demons are going to take over.
► 02:35:53
It's brilliant.
► 02:35:54
That is brilliant.
► 02:35:55
It's brilliant.
► 02:35:56
That is brilliant.
► 02:35:57
It's so fucking stupid.
► 02:35:58
I don't think you can...
► 02:36:00
I don't think most of his listeners would be able to articulate exactly what line of, or that train of logic that you just put forward.
► 02:36:06
No, because they have too much fluoride in the water.
► 02:36:08
But it makes perfect sense.
► 02:36:10
Of course.
► 02:36:10
If you are an insane person.
► 02:36:11
Yeah.
► 02:36:12
Or if you're just an afraid person, because that's what this, it's not that these people are all insane, it's that they're terrified and they don't know what's going on.
► 02:36:19
I've spent a lot of periods of my life in various stages of paranoia and anxiety.
► 02:36:25
I have mental illness.
► 02:36:27
I've done a lot of drugs in the past.
► 02:36:29
And so I know weird head spaces.
► 02:36:30
Yeah.
► 02:36:31
And I can sort of, I can suss out where things are coming from.
► 02:36:35
Right.
► 02:36:35
And I, I, I. I don't mean to put too fine a point on this, but I've dwelt in the weirdest parts of the internet, like these conspiracy forums and these weird Illuminati forums, these message boards.
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I've read all this stuff that people talk about, and none of it's based on anything.
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And so much of it is mirrored in what Alex is talking about.
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This idea of the lesser magic, the idea that we've got to tell you, then you're in.
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It's so dumb.
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It's so based on nothing.
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And it's so manipulative.
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And that's what he's doing.
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It's great.
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I love it.
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Top globalists say he's safe.
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Why?
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What?
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Who is...
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How is he even getting a meeting with top globalists?
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He runs into them all the time.
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Remember, he talked to that one on the plane.
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Oh, that's right.
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He runs into them all the time.
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That's right.
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And they keep calling him, trying to get him to join up.
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They are everywhere.
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They need to join up.
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Absolutely.
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No, no, no, I got you.
► 02:37:31
They're always courting Alex Jones.
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You're right.
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So, Alex...
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It's such a frustrating part of the mythology that...
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Just like his fucking Prometheus bullshit, like...
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We need to be more like Prometheus, who God loved!
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And you're like, wait, no, hold on one second.
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You don't understand.
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No, no, no, you misinterpreted that.
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Oh, I did?
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Yeah, you misinterpreted that.
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How so?
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Because what he's saying is the God that I would be into, the elite version that I would be into, is that one who brings us Promethean fire.
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Now, Prometheus did bring us the fire and then got his liver packed out.
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He got wrecked for it.
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Yeah, but that's the sacrifice that he makes for humanity.
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Yeah.
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So Alex's point is actually very valid in that case, is that the god that I would worship is the one that builds us up, because Prometheus did give us fire.
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Yeah, but I don't think there is one.
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No.
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Also, there's not a god.
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Shh, quiet.
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We have a lot of Christian knowledge fighters.
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Yeah, I bet we do.
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I fucking bet we do.
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And if you do, God bless you.
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I don't care.
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I don't think there's anything intrinsically negative about religion.
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I think it can bring a lot to your life.
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No comment.
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So, this next clip, Alex Jones has been on his bullshit for about ever about these liberals want to kill cops.
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Yes.
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Oh, God.
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I don't want to get into the cop narrative.
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No, this one's fun.
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Okay.
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He has an interview with this guy named James Wesley Rawls, who runs a site.
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That's a great name.
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It's not bad.
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That's a great name.
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Good for a serial killer.
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Got three names.
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Oh, yeah.
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I would totally be serial killed by that guy.
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He runs a website called survivalblog.com.
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He tells you how to survive.
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Serial killers.
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Like the Globlest.
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He tells you how to survive his own serial killings.
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I think it's a lot of prepping stuff.
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If you don't want to be murdered by me, here's a step-by-step list of instructions.
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Don't piss me off.
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That's it.
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That's the whole blog.
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He is a guy who used to come on on Skype.
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I'm basing this on what Alex has told us.
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He used to come on on Skype.
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Now you don't even want your picture out there because you're so freaked out.
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Too much.
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Weirdo.
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Gotcha.
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Most of the show is an interview with this guy.
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They get into talking about cop-killing rhetoric and what have you.
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Here's that clip.
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It's a paradox.
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They're awake, but they still follow orders.
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The citizens are awake.
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We still put up with it.
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Meanwhile, leftists are out killing police, so they're so fired up, once we demonstrate, they'll attack us.
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I wish there was some sophistication out there that everyone not be played like fiddles.
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Right.
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Well, right now we have a lot of people being played like puppets, indeed, where radicals are being pushed toward killing police officers, for example, where, you know, there wasn't even talk of that for about a 25 period in this country.
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You have to go all the way back to late 1960s or early 70s with the Black Panther movement to see, you know, the...
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At the time, they referred to it as the Kill the Pigs movement.
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NWA!
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Fucking anybody!
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That kind of went quiet for a long, long time in this nation.
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And seeing that re-emerge is very troubling.
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That's very troubling.
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What's more troubling...
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Fucking listen to anybody who's not fucking white!
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NWA had fucked the police in 1988.
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What is this too...
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Body count had cop killer in 1992.
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How many times...
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How many times does this happen to, this happens to so many white people?
► 02:41:16
9-1-1 is a joke, came out in 1990.
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So many white people.
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So many white people always come with a, I've never heard this shit before.
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Yeah.
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When did they start talking about this?
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It got, like, fucking everybody always!
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And that, I mean, I think that's really, like...
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When we talk about feminism and racism and these sorts of things, and how blind Alex is to so many things, and how reactionary he is, a lot of it really does boil down in some ways to, like, you're not listening.
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You're not listening.
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And maybe the larger avenue there is just that nobody was...
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In your world was talking about it.
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Because that was a thing.
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If you go back to the 80s with NWA, you see all those local news spots going like, is rap out of control?
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All of those different things.
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And never are black people being murdered by the cops!
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Now let's take reality out of it and sensible discourse out of it.
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Let's just remove that for a second.
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Which is the entire focus of this podcast.
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Think about how many people We're fucking talking about taking out the police after the Rodney King stuff.
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Oh, my God.
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And that was not in the 60s.
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No.
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No, no, no.
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So, I mean, like, even that is just a very clear example of fucking James Wesley Rawls is an idiot.
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Yeah.
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He is a fucking ahistorical idiot.
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Right.
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But, hey, you know what?
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He's got a blog, and that's pretty cool.
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God damn it.
► 02:42:50
So, James Wesley Rawls is naughty.
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One of his basic arguments that he's making within this interview is that the globalists created radical Islam in order to fight against them.
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Logical.
► 02:43:06
Like, they're fighting against the West, because they needed a better enemy.
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Controlled opposition.
► 02:43:10
Yeah, they needed a...
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We had the Nazis, now we gotta get Islam.
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They need a scary enemy that they can fight against, and in that way, curtail our freedoms, and then create a one-world religion that is partially Islamic, and a one-world government.
► 02:43:24
Sure.
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It's nonsense.
► 02:43:25
But again, it doubles back into this shit that Alex talks about, where you're radicalizing the enemy that you are imagining.
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In order to justify your radical nature.
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Yeah.
► 02:43:37
There's a ton of that in his discourse.
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And, like, this is the fucking money bomb.
► 02:43:43
Most of the show...
► 02:43:44
That's right.
► 02:43:44
This is the money bomb we're into.
► 02:43:46
Most of the show...
► 02:43:47
It's fear.
► 02:43:47
It's fear.
► 02:43:48
Yes.
► 02:43:49
Yeah.
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The money bomb is fear.
► 02:43:51
Fear, and we are much more numerous than you think.
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You are not alone.
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It's all of us.
► 02:43:57
There's 3.5 billion of us.
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Don't feel bad.
► 02:44:01
Don't eat to us because you're just one of...
► 02:44:03
It's like when a busker has a dollar bill already in his hat whenever he pulls it out.
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You're priming the pot.
► 02:44:10
You're making sure that people know it's okay.
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Yeah, there's 3.5 billion people behind you.
► 02:44:16
But just fucking support us because we're the only ones fighting these fake globalists.
► 02:44:19
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 02:44:21
Before Rawls gets out...
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Can you imagine how much money he would have?
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If he actually reached three and a half billion people.
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Well, if everyone gave him a quarter.
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Yeah.
► 02:44:34
Yeah.
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Oh, man.
► 02:44:37
And considering the insane markup he has on these products, even when they're on sale, which I didn't even mean to bring up, but let's fucking talk about it.
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Okay, let's get into it.
► 02:44:49
During the money bomb, unprecedented sales.
► 02:44:52
Is it like an Easter sale?
► 02:44:53
Yeah, he's constantly talking about like...
► 02:44:58
Alright, got the Brain Force.
► 02:44:59
That's on sale until the show is over.
► 02:45:02
Got free shipping on everything.
► 02:45:03
Infomercial style.
► 02:45:04
He's basically talking about things being at cost.
► 02:45:07
Yeah.
► 02:45:08
Just like, gotta move it.
► 02:45:09
That sort of thing.
► 02:45:10
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 02:45:10
He's like, hey, this is a lost leader.
► 02:45:12
Everyone's gonna come in and make money on it.
► 02:45:14
Which is bullshit.
► 02:45:16
I mean, well...
► 02:45:16
He's pretending.
► 02:45:18
If you are looking at the end of the fiscal year, though...
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You've got to get that product out of there.
► 02:45:24
If you're selling it, it's revenue.
► 02:45:26
It doesn't matter if you're making a profit on it or not.
► 02:45:29
It's still money you have.
► 02:45:31
And it's not like that stuff you bought isn't going to factor into the end of the fiscal year.
► 02:45:35
Of course.
► 02:45:36
You're balancing the books in some ways, even if you sell it for no profit.
► 02:45:40
Which might...
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I don't know when we got into business.
► 02:45:42
I don't know when this happened.
► 02:45:44
Oh, that's right.
► 02:45:45
You are an accountant.
► 02:45:45
But it might still be like...
► 02:45:47
I'm just an interested party.
► 02:45:48
It might be indicative of the fact that he is...
► 02:45:51
He may be overbought and is in a hole or just is in a hole generally.
► 02:45:58
I don't know.
► 02:45:58
Anyway, Rawls, before he gets out of the episode, has to say one of the scariest things I've heard a guest say on Alex Jones' show.
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Oh, boy.
► 02:46:09
Here we go.
► 02:46:10
There's going to be huge numbers of Christian refugees in the coming decades, and I believe that there is actually a need for a new homeland nation for persecuted Christian and Messianic Jewish refugees who are going to be pushed out of countries in huge numbers in the years to come, and that's why I decided to write my Counter-Caliphate Chronicles series.
► 02:46:35
That first novel...
► 02:46:37
Land of Promise describes the establishment of a Christian homeland nation, and I also made it fictionally a Christian libertarian nation to illustrate a lot of other points, but I do think that that is needed, and we need to pray that God would provide a safe haven for persecuted Christians all over the world.
► 02:47:00
I would argue that most of the time when religiously specific countries have been created, it hasn't gone great.
► 02:47:07
The thing I hear there, though, is that he's saying so many Christian refugees, we need a homeland nation, and we're creating a counter-caliphate, which is like...
► 02:47:19
The counter-caliphate is the name of his novel series that he's written.
► 02:47:23
But the point being, we hate this thing that is persecuting us.
► 02:47:27
So let's make exactly that thing.
► 02:47:31
But our version.
► 02:47:31
But our version.
► 02:47:32
Yeah.
► 02:47:33
That's insane to me.
► 02:47:34
That mentality pervades Alex Jones' guests.
► 02:47:37
Well, that's a good point.
► 02:47:38
I don't understand why you're shocked by that.
► 02:47:40
I know, but it just...
► 02:47:41
Well, and frankly, this is what we've been talking about for months now.
► 02:47:46
Yeah, basically forever.
► 02:47:47
But it never fails to surprise me that people don't stop for one fucking second and think...
► 02:47:55
Oh, well, this thing is bad, so let's not do this thing.
► 02:47:58
Well, because they have this...
► 02:48:01
But then again, you know what?
► 02:48:04
At the same point, every Democrat said, you know, when they go low, we go high.
► 02:48:11
Not every Democrat.
► 02:48:13
Well, no, not every Democrat.
► 02:48:14
But Marty DeRosa, a fucking policy wonk and friend of the show, he and I were having this conversation where it's like...
► 02:48:22
We all said when they go low, we go high.
► 02:48:25
And now we're kind of at the position where it's like, oh, when they go low, you fucking go goddamn lower.
► 02:48:31
Fucking get into there.
► 02:48:32
So I don't know.
► 02:48:34
I don't know.
► 02:48:35
Right?
► 02:48:36
I don't know.
► 02:48:36
Don't punch somebody when they've taken out your knees.
► 02:48:39
Like, I don't know.
► 02:48:40
That's not in any way justifying the idea of, like, we need our own Christians.
► 02:48:44
No, pogroms.
► 02:48:45
Pogroms.
► 02:48:45
Okay.
► 02:48:47
So the rest of Alex Jones' September 16th show for the Money Bomb.
► 02:48:52
Before we go any further, I do think he's right.
► 02:48:55
There will be a lot of Christian refugees, in the same way that there will be a lot of refugees total.
► 02:49:02
Period.
► 02:49:03
Immediately following, like, considering the effects of climate change, what does happen in our country in specific, right?
► 02:49:10
So right now we have a shit ton of Muslim refugees from all of these places.
► 02:49:16
But not entirely.
► 02:49:19
It's not all Muslims.
► 02:49:21
But my point is that so many people are up in arms about this.
► 02:49:25
When we just start talking about refugees with no religion in front of it, think about how many Christian refugees and how many all of these things.
► 02:49:33
Everyone's going to scapegoat depending on the adjective that is part of the refugee part.
► 02:49:38
Exactly.
► 02:49:39
How many Christian refugees?
► 02:49:42
What's the number before people start saying...
► 02:49:44
Well, we don't want any more refugees, total.
► 02:49:47
It's the fun part of complaining about refugees stuff because, like, hey, they're going to be Christians while you deny climate change.
► 02:49:55
Exactly.
► 02:49:56
It's a fun game to play.
► 02:49:57
Like, this is going to happen.
► 02:49:58
It's a fun, fun game.
► 02:50:00
What's the number, though?
► 02:50:01
Like, how many...
► 02:50:03
For fuck's sakes, imagine we're talking about Rome.
► 02:50:08
All of the Catholics.
► 02:50:10
For whatever reason, need to move.
► 02:50:12
How many people in the United States before it starts going like, well, we can't allow any refugees in.
► 02:50:20
Regardless of religion.
► 02:50:22
We just can't allow refugees in.
► 02:50:24
But let's even imagine a scenario wherein, and this may not be the case, I'm not saying it necessarily is, but let's imagine a scenario where it just so happens that Muslim dominated countries.
► 02:50:36
Happen to be the places that are safer from climate change.
► 02:50:40
Let's imagine that.
► 02:50:41
Right, right, right.
► 02:50:41
So let's imagine, like, Saudi Arabia is a place that is unaffected by climate change.
► 02:50:46
And now these Catholics that are displaced...
► 02:50:49
Because it's a fucking desert, so...
► 02:50:50
And now it's wonderful.
► 02:50:52
Yeah, now it's a fucking utopia.
► 02:50:55
So let's imagine these Catholics from the south of Italy, where it's flooded...
► 02:51:01
To shit.
► 02:51:01
Right.
► 02:51:02
Now have to find a place.
► 02:51:03
Venice is fucking gone.
► 02:51:04
Done.
► 02:51:05
Yeah.
► 02:51:05
So now they have to go somewhere and they go into Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia, I mean, let's not unpack all of their negative cultural problems.
► 02:51:15
Let's just talk about people coming in.
► 02:51:16
Let's say that they have a way of life and these Catholics come in and want to change everything.
► 02:51:23
Yeah.
► 02:51:24
Ugh.
► 02:51:25
Ugh.
► 02:51:26
How is it that people can't do that next step thought?
► 02:51:31
Think about that reciprocity.
► 02:51:33
I think people are too caught up in their identity.
► 02:51:35
Yeah, that's probably true.
► 02:51:36
That's why whenever we talk about Alex Jones, I don't like to call him a white supremacist.
► 02:51:40
I like to say that he's caught up in white identity.
► 02:51:44
White Christian male identity.
► 02:51:46
Because that, I think, is more to the point than saying he's a white supremacist.
► 02:51:50
It's way too easy to say that he thinks he's better than everybody, because of course he does.
► 02:51:54
But what really motivates him is his identification with what makes him white, what makes him male, what makes him Christian.
► 02:52:04
I mean, I read a really interesting assessment of...
► 02:52:35
Someone was pointing out that a lot of homophobia is based on a fear by really aggressive, angry dudes that men will treat them like they treat women.
► 02:52:48
And I think that there is a bit of that in...
► 02:52:51
That's a really good thought.
► 02:52:53
I think there's a lot of that in tons of this stuff.
► 02:52:57
Alex is afraid that...
► 02:52:59
Minorities will treat him how he thinks about them.
► 02:53:03
It's reciprocity.
► 02:53:04
Yeah.
► 02:53:04
That's what they're really afraid of, all of their crimes coming back against them.
► 02:53:08
Right.
► 02:53:09
They're afraid of karma.
► 02:53:11
In many ways, yeah.
► 02:53:13
So the rest of the...
► 02:53:14
That's just the thing that I have always considered, and it is one of those things in the later stages of Obama's presidency.
► 02:53:25
That I was concerned about is because of that executive overreach, because of how much power we gave Obama, Trump now has that power.
► 02:53:33
We just never considered that it could be used against us.
► 02:53:38
That's not true.
► 02:53:40
I mean, I agree with the point, but when that was happening, when that executive power was given to Obama, there were people such as myself and other folks, you as well, who were like, this is not good.
► 02:53:54
There should not be, like, and it goes back to Bush, the idea of being able to unilaterally launch wars.
► 02:54:01
That sort of thing is not in the power of the executive.
► 02:54:04
The executive branch became way too strong, and even with Obama in power, I know tons of Democrats and liberal-minded people who are super against that, and it wasn't enough.
► 02:54:16
It wasn't enough to sway the Congress, sway the actual people.
► 02:54:22
Who made decisions.
► 02:54:24
Yeah.
► 02:54:24
Imagine...
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Yeah.
► 02:54:27
No.
► 02:54:28
I'm out.
► 02:54:28
I'm out.
► 02:54:30
That's insane.
► 02:54:30
It's insane.
► 02:54:31
It's political opportunism by the...
► 02:54:35
I mean, if we keep this conversation going more than another 10 minutes, we're going to say let's overthrow everything.
► 02:54:41
Because I think...
► 02:54:42
This whole thing has been me just pushing you closer to my side.
► 02:54:47
Little do you know, I'm already there.
► 02:54:50
Don't reveal that.
► 02:54:51
Don't reveal that.
► 02:54:52
You're our cover.
► 02:54:53
So, September 16th.
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I'm the revolution.
► 02:54:57
You're the one who's keeping us legitimate.
► 02:54:59
Part one of the Money Bomb.
► 02:55:00
It ends with a long interview with Dr. Group.
► 02:55:03
Dr. Group runs the fourth hour of the show before they hand it off to whoever dumbass.
► 02:55:09
Maybe Joe Biggs.
► 02:55:10
I'm not entirely sure.
► 02:55:11
Who cares?
► 02:55:11
They keep the marathon going.
► 02:55:13
He's just trying to sell a lot of products.
► 02:55:15
He does a bunch of bullshit.
► 02:55:17
But before he leaves, before Alex leaves, he says that his predictions have never been wrong.
► 02:55:23
He's basically a psychic.
► 02:55:24
And that his sixth sense is on fire like never before.
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Race memory.
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That's a quote.
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My sixth sense is on fire like it's never been before.
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First of all, I don't think you have a sixth sense.
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Don't care.
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I think that you are freaked out, certainly.
► 02:55:40
Then he had this quote that I thought was really fucking awesome.
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It was, if you're nouveau riche and you're not giving us money, or, and then there's a long list of things basically that are just about giving him press, like buying us a billboard, that sort of thing.
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You're crazy.
► 02:55:58
If you're nouveau riche, is that the way he phrased it?
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Like, alright.
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Because he wants to delineate between people who have money.
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It's not old money.
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It's not old money.
► 02:56:07
It's the new, it's the dot-com billionaires who he's really courting.
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So now.
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Here's where things get really fun.
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Where is that?
► 02:56:17
Alex Jones did his show on September 16th.
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Then he was due to come back from 10 to 11 p.m.
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Yes.
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To do an interview with Larry Nichols.
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Yes.
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They were going to do an hour-long interview, and then they were going to premiere a documentary.
► 02:56:34
Oh, no.
► 02:56:34
He sent people down to tape Larry Nichols at his house, whose address has been given out on our show.
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And his phone number.
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If you'd like to call him, please.
► 02:56:45
I think we blocked that out.
► 02:56:46
Please email knowledgefight.com and I will fucking give you his phone number.
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I don't give a shit.
► 02:56:52
He gave it out on air!
► 02:56:53
He did.
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And it's still on the internet.
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On Alex Jones' channel.
► 02:56:57
But be that as it may, they sent them out there, they made a documentary, and Alex was going to do an hour-long interview with Larry to, like, proceed it.
► 02:57:08
Larry clearly didn't answer the phone.
► 02:57:11
On purpose?
► 02:57:13
I think he was asleep.
► 02:57:14
The first half hour of the show is Alex Jones vamping like hell.
► 02:57:19
He's just talking about my early days on radio.
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We're great.
► 02:57:23
It's just like, it's so much filler for like the first 25 minutes of the hour.
► 02:57:28
There are two kinds of people.
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People on the radio and then people not on the radio.
► 02:57:32
What he's trying to do is he's trying to say things without getting into anything that he can't bail from if Larry gets on the phone at any point.
► 02:57:40
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He's in that maintenance, like, let's...
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He's stretching.
► 02:57:46
Yeah, exactly.
► 02:57:47
And so about 25 minutes or so, 30 minutes in, Larry Nichols finally gets on the phone, and they just talk about how much Hillary sucks, of course, because that's his bread and butter.
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And Larry Nichols drops this chestnut.
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Okay.
► 02:58:04
What Hillary needs to do, and what she's going to do, is she's going to make herself the underdog.
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That's why she released all this information about the servers.
► 02:58:17
Wait.
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Hillary released the information about the service herself.
► 02:58:24
Yes, because she needs to make herself the underdog, which is out of Larry Nichols' playbook from way back in the Arkansas days.
► 02:58:32
They had to make Bill Clinton an underdog because everyone loves an underdog.
► 02:58:36
But Bill Clinton was the underdog.
► 02:58:38
Right.
► 02:58:39
It's all nonsense.
► 02:58:41
And if you actually look at Larry Nichols' actual history with the Clintons...
► 02:58:46
No, that doesn't scan at all.
► 02:58:48
He wasn't involved with any of the stuff he says he was involved with.
► 02:58:51
So that's his big sort of selling point, is that she did all this shit to herself because the Clintons and the Bushes are dynastic families.
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They're always going to be at the top, so they have to make themselves the underdogs in order for you to kind of care about them.
► 02:59:06
So he goes on to say these next two things on the show that are dumb.
► 02:59:14
They only have 20 minutes or so to do their interview before they screen the interview.
► 02:59:18
Yeah, because they've already bailed on so many hours.
► 02:59:20
And they spend 10 minutes of it with Alex Jones vamping more because Larry Nichols has to take his dog out to shit.
► 02:59:28
It's crazy.
► 02:59:29
That's cute.
► 02:59:30
It's humanizing in some ways, but it's terrible radio.
► 02:59:34
It's terrible.
► 02:59:35
Even Hitler's dog loved him.
► 02:59:36
Yeah, but here is something that Larry Nichols predicts about Hillary that did not come true.
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You said that first months ago.
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Now it's in the news that Obama's after Hillary, and she's even attacking Obama now.
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Yeah, here's what you will watch.
► 02:59:51
Here's what's coming.
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They're following our playbook this time exactly, Alex.
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She's gonna start the tearing tour.
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Now when Hillary goes out, she's gonna tear up.
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So that's misogynistic as fuck.
► 03:00:06
Now when Hillary goes out, she's going to tear up.
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She's going to start crying.
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She's going to start crying.
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Because everybody respects a woman who cries.
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Everybody's going to be like, oh, this woman cries?
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That makes me want her to be president.
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There's no inherent misogyny behind a woman crying that, oh, fuck off.
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Fuck you, Larry Nichols.
► 03:00:26
In the same way that Alex always complains that, like, hey, you call me racist and that's your way of taking my power, he believes that, like, oh, well, And now I gotta be chivalrous.
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It's that same thing.
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It's a load of bullshit.
► 03:00:39
Also, Hillary Clinton, say what you want about her, did not cry.
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She came out and defended herself quite admirably.
► 03:00:49
Whatever Larry Nichols' idea...
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Say whatever you want about Hillary's campaign.
► 03:00:54
Hillary fucking brought it.
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Gotta give her that.
► 03:00:57
And she stood up to these attacks.
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And didn't...
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I mean, she apologized for things that she thought was maybe an error in judgment.
► 03:01:06
Yeah.
► 03:01:07
Those sorts of things.
► 03:01:08
Yeah, the super predator shit.
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Bad.
► 03:01:11
Yeah.
► 03:01:11
But didn't back down to this right-wing conspiracy that mostly tracks back to Larry Nichols.
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Yeah, exactly.
► 03:01:19
Like, Larry Nichols legitimately is such a problem in the world.
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Right.
► 03:01:22
He's so terrible.
► 03:01:24
Wow.
► 03:01:25
But as much as he is a problem in terms of all the stuff he's done with the Clintons...
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He's a huge problem in general.
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Like, I know we've talked about this.
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He was saying that Obama wants to become the last president, because then he becomes king.
► 03:01:40
Like the Patton Oswalt bit about Bush, where he wants to become the last president.
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Right, but he's not doing comedy.
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Yeah, no, he's not very funny about this at all.
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He will become the king, and then once he's the king, he becomes the king of the Muslims.
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Which will never stop.
► 03:01:59
That's funny.
► 03:01:59
That will never not make me laugh.
► 03:02:01
That's funny.
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The king of the Muslims!
► 03:02:03
That's funny.
► 03:02:04
Yeah.
► 03:02:04
But, listen to this next clip of Larry Nichols and realize how much he fucking hates Muslims.
► 03:02:11
And realize...
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This is Nichols hating...
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Yeah.
► 03:02:15
Okay.
► 03:02:16
This is no longer funny.
► 03:02:17
Alright.
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I just can't believe it.
► 03:02:19
I just can't believe what...
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I mean, what type of psycho scum...
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You've been around these people, but I mean, they weren't even that bad back then.
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Have they gone crazy?
► 03:02:28
In my day, bad guys would look good today.
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Bad guys back then, honestly, Alex, would be heroes today, if you can believe that.
► 03:02:39
Remember this term, Ogba El-Amin.
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Ogba El-Amin.
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And what they're doing with this flood of immigrants that are going all over Europe, that's the spread.
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They're moving in.
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They're setting up caliphates, buddy.
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How about I mean is when they spread, when they spread and they get into, you know, the first one comes in.
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Well, gosh, he's a great little Muslim.
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You know what?
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They're just really nice people.
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We could probably let another one in.
► 03:03:08
Well, then in comes another one.
► 03:03:09
Well, you know, they're just really nice people.
► 03:03:12
But read the Koran, folks.
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One day...
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I hope you get more lung cancer.
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Can you get more lung cancer, you fucking pile of garbage?
► 03:03:24
Three times in the Koran, it says, peace, love, dope.
► 03:03:28
You got it?
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Three times.
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Seventy some odd times, it says, try to convert the infidel.
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Three times.
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Oh my fucking God, read the Bible, you pile of...
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Fuck you!
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Fuck you!
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Look what they did in Africa, Alex.
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Convert to Islam or die.
► 03:03:47
Look at what Christians into Africa!
► 03:03:49
We can't grow Christianity by saying either.
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You believe in Jesus Christ, we're going to cut your head off.
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Crusades.
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They're growing.
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Fucking wild.
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We in America have become cowards.
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What are we going to do now?
► 03:04:01
Why are you being racist against people saying I'm going to kill you if you don't convert to my religion?
► 03:04:05
That's liberal.
► 03:04:06
That's actually a really good question.
► 03:04:07
I just can't help it.
► 03:04:08
Let me ask you this, Alex.
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I'm going to pose this question for you.
► 03:04:11
Dearborn, Michigan, you know, has got a huge population of Muslims.
► 03:04:16
They even do that little wacky thing, you know, every time of the day where they do the prayer out on the loudspeaker.
► 03:04:22
Tell me exactly what would happen, Alex, if tomorrow morning we wake up in Dearborn, Michigan, the Muslim community there declares itself a caliphate.
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Now, what would happen?
► 03:04:36
They would say it's religious freedom to have that area of Michigan be under Islamic rule and the government would submit to it and the left is promoting it.
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There's no way, folks.
► 03:04:46
Do you really believe we would take our government in, Alex, and drive them out of there?
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Yeah, probably.
► 03:04:53
I assume if it was like an insurrection of some sort.
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I imagine.
► 03:04:59
We put down the Whiskey Rebellion with force.
► 03:05:05
It's not like we're new to the National Guard coming in to murder people.
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Take murder them out of the equation.
► 03:05:13
The government did what it had to do with the Bundy Ranch.
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And that wildlife preserve.
► 03:05:20
Yeah.
► 03:05:20
Like, they did it admirably without killing anybody.
► 03:05:22
Except for that one guy.
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Except for that one guy.
► 03:05:24
They killed that one guy.
► 03:05:25
But he had it coming.
► 03:05:26
When you say admirably, you suggest that it's admirable that they didn't all die.
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Now, I respect you for that opinion.
► 03:05:36
Admirable means a lot of restraint.
► 03:05:39
Because...
► 03:05:40
The restraint, I wish they afforded all other people than white.
► 03:05:47
Right.
► 03:05:47
I 100% agree with that.
► 03:05:49
But his presentation of it, like, what if they just declared a caliphate?
► 03:05:54
Like, well, that's a fun hypothetical.
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First of all, not happening.
► 03:05:58
Second of all, if it did, of course that wouldn't fly.
► 03:06:01
What if our country just broke into another and declared a Christian nation?
► 03:06:07
Like, what kind of monsters would we be?
► 03:06:10
Or what if, let's say, Dearborn, Michigan had a huge Christian population.
► 03:06:16
And they decided we are going to be now a completely theocratic Christian city.
► 03:06:23
Oh, do you mean just Dearborn?
► 03:06:26
Like a lot of cities?
► 03:06:29
I don't know.
► 03:06:30
Oh, man.
► 03:06:32
I keep saying how can.
► 03:06:35
I keep saying how can as if I don't get the concept behind this.
► 03:06:41
You're like that girl on Clueless, like as if.
► 03:06:45
As if.
► 03:06:46
I just genuinely believe that human beings are capable of some kind of rational thought.
► 03:06:53
And I'm consistently proven wrong.
► 03:06:55
And the worst part is I'm consistently proven wrong in the same fucking episode.
► 03:07:00
Yeah.
► 03:07:01
Yeah.
► 03:07:02
There's no rationality here.
► 03:07:04
So, it's nuts.
► 03:07:06
Larry Nichols says a bunch of dumbass bullshit, as he's known to do on the streets.
► 03:07:10
As is his want.
► 03:07:11
Yeah, and then they play...
► 03:07:14
On the streets, like he's in The Wire.
► 03:07:16
Yeah, he's Marlo out there.
► 03:07:17
Yeah.
► 03:07:18
My name is my name!
► 03:07:20
So, Larry Nichols then, they play the documentary.
► 03:07:23
And I don't have any clips of it, because who gives a fuck?
► 03:07:27
They actually...
► 03:07:28
Okay.
► 03:07:28
It's just him talking about how, like, now, Hillary, she is not going to be taken down by Benghazi stuff.
► 03:07:37
She's slippery.
► 03:07:38
But what's gonna take her down...
► 03:07:40
Is the documents I have about Vince Foster's murder.
► 03:07:43
Oh, man.
► 03:07:44
Which we have already covered him saying that the document that he has about Vince Foster's murder just miraculously showed up in his mailbox.
► 03:07:55
Crazy!
► 03:07:55
Yeah.
► 03:07:55
It showed up in his mail!
► 03:07:56
He gave out his address, and then the document proving Vince Foster was killing him in mail!
► 03:08:03
Nobody else.
► 03:08:04
Maybe someone falsified that based on how you keep going on right-wing radio shows.
► 03:08:10
I got a Twitter DM saying it was true.
► 03:08:13
Yep, that's Paul Joseph Watson style.
► 03:08:14
There we go.
► 03:08:15
So, like, it is that, and he's just like, ah.
► 03:08:17
But there's one moment of true comedy where he talks about how I used to be a bad man, I was involved with the Clintons, and then my dad got lung cancer.
► 03:08:28
And while he's talking about that...
► 03:08:30
The video is him smoking a cigarette on his porch.
► 03:08:36
I don't know why he got lung cancer.
► 03:08:39
It's probably some globalist plot.
► 03:08:42
They have cures for lung cancer, don't they?
► 03:08:44
His life-changing moment that he's describing is brought on by the thing he's doing in the video.
► 03:08:50
It's crazy.
► 03:08:51
He's like, I couldn't be involved with these Clintons anymore.
► 03:08:54
What about if the drugs they brought in my daughter was doing?
► 03:08:58
So, was it, like, with Larry Nichols, was it really just him kind of getting fucked over and then realized that he had it?
► 03:09:05
Yeah, but then he just realized he had a gig?
► 03:09:10
Just talking shit about the Clintons?
► 03:09:12
I don't think...
► 03:09:12
Like, that was the genesis of so much horrific...
► 03:09:15
I don't think he had any idea how well this was going to work out.
► 03:09:18
Oh, that's possible.
► 03:09:19
I think he was a bitter, vindictive dude who was a piece of shit and was involved...
► 03:09:25
Was?
► 03:09:26
He is a piece of shit.
► 03:09:28
He was involved with...
► 03:09:29
Until he dies, and we are going to call him on that day.
► 03:09:32
And I'm not entirely sure what the circumstances were, but he was involved with the Contras.
► 03:09:38
Yeah.
► 03:09:38
Like, he was involved with, like, Ollie North and all them.
► 03:09:41
That's why he got fired from Clinton's White House.
► 03:09:44
Oh, do you mean legitimately?
► 03:09:45
Yeah.
► 03:09:46
Crazy.
► 03:09:47
He kept making collect calls.
► 03:09:50
Collect calls.
► 03:09:51
And shit like that to the Nicaragua.
► 03:09:54
And that's why he ended up getting fired, because it was a completely traceable thing.
► 03:09:59
We have a call for you from Larry Nichols.
► 03:10:03
Will you accept the charges?
► 03:10:05
Hang up.
► 03:10:06
Hang up.
► 03:10:06
No.
► 03:10:07
He's just going to complain about his dog shitting.
► 03:10:10
This motherfucker has lung cancer.
► 03:10:13
Come on, man.
► 03:10:13
He was involved as a functionary.
► 03:10:16
He was hired in some way.
► 03:10:18
I'm not entirely sure what other connections he had at that point.
► 03:10:22
That's very difficult to trace.
► 03:10:24
But he got fired.
► 03:10:26
He blamed Bill for it.
► 03:10:28
And then created this elaborate backstory that has been shown to be mostly false repeatedly.
► 03:10:35
On so many, so many levels.
► 03:10:37
Again, we've talked about this a bunch, but it bears repeating if you haven't listened to all of our episodes.
► 03:10:41
He was on a right-wing radio show and claimed to be an assassin who killed people for hire for the Clintons.
► 03:10:48
He was their hired assassin.
► 03:10:49
He said that on a radio show.
► 03:10:52
And then, when asked about it, said, I was high on pills when I was on that show.
► 03:10:57
I didn't mean to say that.
► 03:10:58
I never would have said that.
► 03:11:00
That's the kind of person we're talking about.
► 03:11:02
He's a liar.
► 03:11:04
Important to note, Vince Foster killed himself.
► 03:11:07
It was not a murder.
► 03:11:09
And the reason that most people think it's a murder is because of this document that just mysteriously showed up in Larry Nichols.
► 03:11:19
And fucking Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.
► 03:11:22
But a lot of that is from Larry Nichols' stuff.
► 03:11:25
Yeah.
► 03:11:25
No, exactly.
► 03:11:27
They were the ones who publicized it.
► 03:11:28
They were the drudge report of their time.
► 03:11:32
Yes.
► 03:11:32
Yeah.
► 03:11:33
But the idea that his body was moved, all that stuff.
► 03:11:38
The Clintons forced the Park Department to take the murder investigation instead of the FBI.
► 03:11:44
All that stuff comes from Larry Nichols.
► 03:11:47
Sure.
► 03:11:49
I've seen the document that Larry Nichols has, like they've played it on the Alex Jones show.
► 03:11:55
It's crazy that it was written in crayon.
► 03:11:57
It's really ludicrous.
► 03:11:59
It might as well have been.
► 03:12:01
Yeah.
► 03:12:01
So anyway, that is the late night portion of the 16th.
► 03:12:05
Now we get to the 17th.
► 03:12:06
The money bomb.
► 03:12:07
The end of the money bomb.
► 03:12:08
The money bomb comes to a close.
► 03:12:09
We are now about 24 hours into the money bomb.
► 03:12:12
Jesus.
► 03:12:13
And Alex Jones is trying to raise a million dollars.
► 03:12:16
What kind of lunatic would watch this much?
► 03:12:19
Info Wars.
► 03:12:19
You're looking at him.
► 03:12:21
Fair.
► 03:12:22
You don't even watch the David Knight parts.
► 03:12:25
Come on.
► 03:12:26
No.
► 03:12:26
Like, I understand...
► 03:12:28
If you're talking about volume, I've watched it.
► 03:12:31
Yeah, that's true.
► 03:12:32
But I'm not gonna watch when the side characters are involved.
► 03:12:34
They're terrible.
► 03:12:35
But why would you do this...
► 03:12:38
I just don't understand what it is they think is going to happen.
► 03:12:43
If you do a 27-hour show versus a 4-hour show.
► 03:12:48
Like, who is watching?
► 03:12:50
Can I explain?
► 03:12:51
Actually, yes, please.
► 03:12:53
So much.
► 03:12:54
Alex Jones knows full well that the only times they're going to be making money are during his show.
► 03:12:59
But, maybe we get a couple thousand.
► 03:13:02
Maybe we get a little bit of stragglers.
► 03:13:05
And I don't have to do any fucking work.
► 03:13:07
Rob Dew is doing that work.
► 03:13:08
That's true.
► 03:13:09
They're doing it, and there's a little bit of a stunt aspect to it.
► 03:13:13
Maybe some people will throw us a couple thousand dollars because of it, and they're like a big donation.
► 03:13:19
Yeah.
► 03:13:19
So there's that.
► 03:13:21
We need to be a thinner net on the...
► 03:13:25
It's a drain, and we've got to catch as much as we can.
► 03:13:29
We've got to tighten the drain.
► 03:13:30
We've got to make sure we're catching all that hair.
► 03:13:33
Now, hair is not what you want.
► 03:13:34
But that hair is money in this metaphor.
► 03:13:36
So you've got to catch all of it.
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I'm not thrilled with this.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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You're crushing it so far.
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Keep on going.
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It's the difference between using a thick or thin comb.
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Okay.
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It's just like, fine comb.
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We've got to get all the money out of this we can.
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A whole day, someone will tune in and maybe be like, alright, I love Liberty.
► 03:13:58
Here's some money.
► 03:13:59
See, I just think of it in comparison to...
► 03:14:03
Like our usual...
► 03:14:05
Or like with Jimmy Pardo.
► 03:14:08
But they do that for charity.
► 03:14:11
But exactly.
► 03:14:12
Their point, though, is we're going to continue to have a show.
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This is going to be something.
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We're going to have these different guests.
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We're going to have all different types of things for you to tune into.
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Even if you're not interested for two hours, like, hey, maybe you're a big fan of Doug Benson or whatever.
► 03:14:32
Leo Zagami.
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Yeah, so you show up during this section.
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He was great on podcast.
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That would be amazing.
► 03:14:38
That would be amazing.
► 03:14:39
But that's the thing.
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Like, other marathons have this kind of idea of, like, we need to keep your attention.
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Can I stop you?
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And he doesn't.
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Can I stop you?
► 03:14:52
Sure.
► 03:14:53
Most marathons have goodwill.
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You know, like...
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Fair.
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Fair.
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Most marathons come from a place of, we want to do good.
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You're right.
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You're right.
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Most of the time, what they're doing, if it's, you know, Jerry's Kids or a podcast-a-thon, they're raising money for charity, and they hope that things are entertaining.
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And I've watched podcast-a-thon for years, and boy, a lot of it is not entertaining.
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True.
► 03:15:19
True.
► 03:15:19
A lot of times it's a slog.
► 03:15:21
No argument.
► 03:15:21
They don't give a fuck.
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They don't really care.
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It's just a crass marketing campaign.
► 03:15:27
It's not like this money is going to charity.
► 03:15:30
Right.
► 03:15:30
He's made it very clear the money is just going to the things we already do.
► 03:15:35
Yeah.
► 03:15:36
He's presenting it as things we're going to do in the future, but it's what they already do.
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Right, right, right.
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It's just a fucking slapdash.
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And he's not even offering mugs to people like NPR does.
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Right.
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So take that part out of it.
► 03:15:48
Yeah.
► 03:15:48
He's just, it's just madcap desperation.
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So when- Yeah.
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They were pretty well on their way.
► 03:16:05
And here's where we start on the 17th.
► 03:16:08
Here's where the finances are on the beginning of the 17th.
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We need about a million dollars to be able to not have to flog the advertising and really push things hard to pay for this.
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And $560-something thousand dollars.
► 03:16:22
They're just about to update.
► 03:16:23
The graph there that shows it has come in.
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And the biggest money we ever had brought in about $650,000.
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So I guess we're going to break our record today.
► 03:16:33
Oh, they just updated.
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It's more than I thought.
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$572,197.
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So $572,197.
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And so we've already reached the goal for the satellite to close captioning and have over $170,000.
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Towards crew, towards travel, towards camera folks, towards editing, towards research, towards reporters.
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Crew, research, cameras.
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Research!
► 03:17:01
Come on!
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Don't pretend you're doing that.
► 03:17:05
Come on!
► 03:17:05
But all the other stuff that he lists is stuff that he's already doing.
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So, like, he's presenting it as...
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Fuck, we're 24 hours in.
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We have like $550,000.
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We're not making this million.
► 03:17:18
I think there is a part of him that's realizing, my audience is not as potent as I want.
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Because a million dollars, he's been presenting it, this entire lead up to it, as it's not that much money.
► 03:17:30
We're trying to run a media operation.
► 03:17:32
It sounds like a lot.
► 03:17:33
It's not that much.
► 03:17:34
He's milking this stone.
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He's trying to get blood out of this stone.
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And all he's been able to do is, I'll tell you this, he ends with $700,000 or so.
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Right around there.
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Which is $300,000 short of their goal.
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Now granted, they do make their goal later, days later.
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Because they've just added all of their sales that they've gotten from other stuff.
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But the thing that I think is that at a certain point, he didn't need the money.
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I guarantee that he needed Half a million.
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Yeah.
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But he wanted a million.
► 03:18:14
Yeah.
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And so it became a thing where now it's not about money, it's about pride.
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It's about who am I?
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It's about how much do I think I'm worth.
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And that's why you can hear a little bit of deflation.
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Yeah, exactly.
► 03:18:27
He expected to wake up.
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It's not desperation, it's deflation.
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Exactly like, yeah, it's the word you said.
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It's ego damage.
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Yeah, exactly.
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He expected to wake up and the goal be met.
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He expected he'd do this show with Larry Nichols that air that documentary that everyone wants to see.
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Everybody does.
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Which is terrible.
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Also, it's like 28, 30 minutes long.
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It's a disaster.
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Fuck.
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Everyone should watch it, though.
► 03:18:51
It's so bad.
► 03:18:52
It's 30 minutes long?
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It's short.
► 03:18:55
It's Larry Nichols smoking and telling bullshit.
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But, like, he expected...
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I'm going to come in on this September 17th, the end of the money bomb, and either it's going to be we're at $900,000 and we've just got to get the last push or we're already there.
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Or it's going to be like $1.5 million.
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Right.
► 03:19:14
I started this money bomb by saying we have 3.5 billion listeners or 3.5 billion people we touch with our social media presence.
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And I think he's starting to realize he ain't got shit.
► 03:19:27
Right.
► 03:19:27
Which goes back to what I was talking about with Joe Biggs.
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Right.
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When he went there and did the Superman with his Hillary for Prison shirt and everyone in the fucking arena there for Trump recognized, oh shit, I think that my premise that the money bomb was when money gets funneled in, I was wrong.
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But I think the disaster...
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Not disaster, necessarily.
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I would love $500,000, $700,000.
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I would love that.
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But the disappointment of how potent his audience is compared to how glorious the reaction was from this Trump audience, I think that those two things do meld in Alex's mind.
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Okay, so you're seeing his money bomb as him recognizing the real extent of his power.
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Which is 700 grand.
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Which is not as good as he hoped.
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And you see Joe Biggs showing up at a Trump rally as a, like, there is a whole new world right here.
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There's an untapped audience.
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That is a lot stronger than our 700 grand.
► 03:20:40
Yeah.
► 03:20:40
A lot of people love us for our weird bullshit that we're spitting.
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But if we throw in this stuff on top of it...
► 03:20:47
They're into some other weird shit.
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I think that's where we get into it.
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He thinks he's throwing in the Trump people on top of it as opposed to he's surrendering to the Trump people.
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I think that might be the beginning of it.
► 03:20:59
That's fascinating.
► 03:21:00
Yeah.
► 03:21:01
That's really interesting.
► 03:21:02
I'm not 100% sure, but...
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As I've been listening to this.
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I mean, at the fucking point we're at with this investigation, who the goddamn hell knows what's going on?
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I know.
► 03:21:10
Every single time I've been certain of something, I'm wrong.
► 03:21:13
Yeah.
► 03:21:13
No.
► 03:21:14
It's crazy.
► 03:21:15
There's no...
► 03:21:15
Yeah, this is...
► 03:21:16
There's no logic to this at all.
► 03:21:18
A couple days back when he told Trump he's a punk and shut your fat mouth.
► 03:21:22
Right.
► 03:21:23
When I heard that, I was like, holy fuck.
► 03:21:24
Right.
► 03:21:27
When I heard that, I was like, well, maybe he never gets on the Trump train at all.
► 03:21:31
Forgetting the world that we live in now.
► 03:21:35
When I heard that at work, I texted you.
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I was like, this investigation is so fucked up.
► 03:21:41
I wanted to tell you that.
► 03:21:43
How the fuck did he say?
► 03:21:46
Because of the constraints of the show.
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Now, here's where shit gets interesting.
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Yes.
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The debate, the Republican debate, was on the 16th.
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The second one.
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The night of the 16th.
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Yeah.
► 03:21:57
And they did their mystery science theater debate thing on the 16th.
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Alex was not a part of it.
► 03:22:03
Which I'm sure was hilarious.
► 03:22:04
So much funny.
► 03:22:05
So funny.
► 03:22:06
So funny.
► 03:22:07
Oh, yeah.
► 03:22:08
Then...
► 03:22:09
They really took down Manos, the hands of fate.
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Not libertarian enough.
► 03:22:15
So, in the next day, Alex gets to respond to the debate stuff.
► 03:22:20
And so now, we're going to enter...
► 03:22:23
A little bit of...
► 03:22:24
The Thunderdome.
► 03:22:25
A little bit of debate recap.
► 03:22:26
Here's Alex Jones giving some of the highlights of last night's debate.
► 03:22:30
Oh boy.
► 03:22:31
That's coming up.
► 03:22:32
Senator Cruz says, Planned Parenthood, a criminal enterprise.
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One of the best statements of the night.
► 03:22:38
Big props to Senator Cruz.
► 03:22:40
This is also based on all the Center for Medical Progress videos.
► 03:22:44
Of course.
► 03:22:44
Ted Cruz is citing all those videos about selling baby parts.
► 03:22:48
I've cut out so much of Alex complaining about that stuff because it's just so boring.
► 03:22:53
We don't need to cover it over and over again.
► 03:22:55
Anytime anybody references Cruz...
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In the context of a phrase that doesn't end with, lost his feet, I'm bummed.
► 03:23:04
But for the entire span that we've been covering, Alex has been complaining about those Center for Medical Progress videos.
► 03:23:11
He is talking about how legally, legally, legally, they can take a baby out.
► 03:23:18
They can take a baby out, right?
► 03:23:20
A live baby?
► 03:23:21
Live baby.
► 03:23:22
Okay.
► 03:23:22
They drug the woman up.
► 03:23:23
What's the name?
► 03:23:24
Hold on.
► 03:23:25
They drug the woman up.
► 03:23:26
And as long as the baby is touching the mother, they can cut it up.
► 03:23:30
They can cut it up and take the organs.
► 03:23:34
But if the baby stops touching the mother...
► 03:23:36
No.
► 03:23:37
No, no, no, Dan.
► 03:23:38
No.
► 03:23:39
Yeah.
► 03:23:39
No, I refuse to even believe that even the most irrational of human beings would accept that as a reasonable response.
► 03:23:47
Alex has been pitching that as a narrative.
► 03:23:49
It's crazy.
► 03:23:50
That can't be true.
► 03:23:50
So also, a couple days before this, before September 17th.
► 03:23:54
It's like a home base argument.
► 03:23:57
We're talking about home base.
► 03:23:59
We're talking about Red Rover situation.
► 03:24:02
Okay.
► 03:24:03
For cutting up baby.
► 03:24:04
Alright, fine.
► 03:24:05
No, no, no, that's fine.
► 03:24:06
And that's Planned Parenthood's whole scam.
► 03:24:09
But be that as it may, I think it was on the 15th of September 2015, the congressional investigation started into these videos and into Planned Parenthood, which now, because we're in the future, we know they cleared them of any wrongdoing and found...
► 03:24:27
Any and all wrongdoing.
► 03:24:28
...and found that those videos were...
► 03:24:30
Deceitfully manipulated and edited poorly.
► 03:24:33
And they have been sued appropriately.
► 03:24:35
Or, not appropriately, they've been sued.
► 03:24:38
Well, actually, it's really fucked up.
► 03:24:41
Since we've started talking about this, like, the court case was still in motion.
► 03:24:47
Oh.
► 03:24:47
Like, just the last week, a bunch of those charges...
► 03:24:51
We have said in the past that they have 15 felonies that are being put on them.
► 03:24:55
Yeah.
► 03:24:56
A bunch of those charges got dropped.
► 03:24:57
Like, last week.
► 03:24:58
God damn it.
► 03:24:59
Yeah, I know.
► 03:25:00
Why do we live?
► 03:25:01
I don't know.
► 03:25:02
There wasn't a, in this world, it was just, why do we live?
► 03:25:07
A lot of it comes down to technicalities, and it just becomes like, is it worth prosecuting this further?
► 03:25:13
Yeah, you get somebody on tax evasion.
► 03:25:18
You don't get them on murdering everybody you've ever known.
► 03:25:22
All that aside, every investigation into whether these videos are full of shit have shown...
► 03:25:27
They feel the shit.
► 03:25:28
So anyway, that's what Ted Cruz was talking about in a presidential debate.
► 03:25:33
Why are we?
► 03:25:33
And Alex loves it.
► 03:25:35
So now he's into fucking Cruz.
► 03:25:37
He's into Cruz.
► 03:25:37
Yeah, so here we go.
► 03:25:39
Bush says 40 years ago he smoked marijuana.
► 03:25:42
I admit it.
► 03:25:43
Ooh, big deal.
► 03:25:44
You mean 40 years ago your family shipped cocaine in.
► 03:25:47
That'd be a bigger admission.
► 03:25:49
Donald Trump says Rand Paul shouldn't be on the stage and he's ugly.
► 03:25:56
Trump...
► 03:25:57
You look pretty goofy to me.
► 03:25:59
I mean, I'll say it.
► 03:26:00
Rand Paul's got curly hair, which I don't think looks goofy, but I guess you could say it looks goofy from your perspective.
► 03:26:07
You look like you have a dead blonde possum on your head, and it used to be brown.
► 03:26:14
Then it was chimpanzee colored, and now it's blonde.
► 03:26:18
So you get your hair bleached, Trump, to then turn it blonde.
► 03:26:22
So if anybody looks like a freak, it's you.
► 03:26:26
I'm not up here attacking him.
► 03:26:28
But he can't sit there and make comments about how people look and then not expect to have it thrown back at him.
► 03:26:35
Agreed.
► 03:26:36
I mean, it's just unbelievable.
► 03:26:38
Good point.
► 03:26:39
It's unbelievable.
► 03:26:41
Then he goes on to say good things.
► 03:26:46
Where he talks about the fact that this is a country where we speak English, not Spanish.
► 03:26:51
No!
► 03:26:52
No!
► 03:26:54
Alex, you had me!
► 03:26:57
Not great.
► 03:26:58
That's a pretty solid burn on Trump, though.
► 03:27:01
That's not too bad.
► 03:27:02
Yeah.
► 03:27:03
It's super unexpected.
► 03:27:05
Yeah.
► 03:27:06
Oh, man.
► 03:27:07
Considering we know that three months after this point, Trump is on Alex's show.
► 03:27:13
Yeah.
► 03:27:14
That's so fucked up.
► 03:27:16
What is going on?
► 03:27:18
I don't know.
► 03:27:19
He hasn't said any of these negative things.
► 03:27:22
How do you not think there's some sort of backroom negotiation going on, right?
► 03:27:28
Hear me out.
► 03:27:28
Here's what I think.
► 03:27:30
Oh, fuck yes.
► 03:27:32
Give it to me.
► 03:27:32
Give it to me, Dan.
► 03:27:33
I think the payment hasn't cleared.
► 03:27:37
You think the check hasn't cleared?
► 03:27:39
Like he's endorsed it, but he's still like...
► 03:27:43
I don't know.
► 03:27:43
It's going to bounce.
► 03:27:44
Why do you think he's surprised to wake up and there's 500,000 in the...
► 03:27:50
Okay.
► 03:27:51
Why do you think he's disappointed?
► 03:27:52
So he's mad because he hasn't reached the million dollar goal yet.
► 03:27:57
And he thinks that the million dollar goal would have been met if the check had cleared?
► 03:28:03
I can't tell how fucking...
► 03:28:05
That seems crazy.
► 03:28:06
I can't tell how fucking much of what I'm trying to pitch as...
► 03:28:09
I'm just trying to make sense of this shit.
► 03:28:12
I love you.
► 03:28:12
It's so crazy.
► 03:28:13
And I want you to be right.
► 03:28:15
But that's too far.
► 03:28:16
But it's nonsense.
► 03:28:17
Even it, like, take all that...
► 03:28:20
Because I don't think that's necessarily true.
► 03:28:21
I mean, the shit about Trump's hair is absolutely true.
► 03:28:25
100%.
► 03:28:25
Looks exactly like what he described.
► 03:28:27
Take my nonsense out of it.
► 03:28:29
The thought that he can be, fuck you, shut your mouth, you're a punk, eh, you're fine, you stop talking about immigrants, whatever.
► 03:28:39
Oh, you're mad at Rand Paul, I'm gonna fucking attack you.
► 03:28:43
About your appearance.
► 03:28:44
Yeah.
► 03:28:44
To being, I fucking look, can I suck your dick, please?
► 03:28:48
Yeah.
► 03:28:48
Within three months is crazy.
► 03:28:52
Yeah.
► 03:28:52
Like, there's no ground...
► 03:28:54
Well, and not just that.
► 03:28:55
And the idea that once he becomes Trump's cheerleader, he doesn't think that all this still exists on the internet?
► 03:29:03
Well, as we've established, he has no concept of the past.
► 03:29:06
Well, the idea that, like, all that, like, stuff...
► 03:29:08
Like, every time we've gone through...
► 03:29:11
Alex Jones says this now in defense of, we go back and we have a clip of him saying, and this is the same thing with fucking Trump!
► 03:29:19
Everything Trump has ever said, we have a tweet of him saying the opposite.
► 03:29:25
Or our new friend Scaramucci.
► 03:29:27
They just don't even fucking care.
► 03:29:29
They don't care.
► 03:29:30
They don't care!
► 03:29:32
Nobody is actually holding them accountable, which is the big issue.
► 03:29:36
We can go on Twitter and we can see people going like, here's what they said, here's what they used to say, but nobody's actually fucking doing anything.
► 03:29:44
We're trying.
► 03:29:45
And I don't know what to do.
► 03:29:47
We're trying.
► 03:29:47
I wake up every day and I don't know what to do.
► 03:29:50
Dad, tell me what to do.
► 03:29:53
I can't tell you, but we're trying.
► 03:29:54
We got a couple more clips to get through.
► 03:29:56
Let's do this thing.
► 03:29:57
We're on hour 17. Yeah, we're trying to do a fundraiser.
► 03:30:04
We're just bad at it.
► 03:30:06
So, I made a point of the fact that Alex has been very pro-Russia.
► 03:30:16
Yes.
► 03:30:17
As we've seen.
► 03:30:18
Yeah, yeah.
► 03:30:19
Or at the very least, pro-strongman, pro-Putin.
► 03:30:22
Yeah.
► 03:30:22
Not necessarily pro-Russia.
► 03:30:24
No, no, that's not fair.
► 03:30:26
Yeah.
► 03:30:27
Pro-Russia and pro-Assad.
► 03:30:28
He has been.
► 03:30:29
He has been pro-Assad.
► 03:30:30
Before this episode, he's been pro-strongman.
► 03:30:33
The things he said in this episode have been legitimately pro-Russia, pro-Assad.
► 03:30:37
You're right.
► 03:30:38
I agree.
► 03:30:39
This next clip brings it...
► 03:30:41
Brings it home.
► 03:30:42
They don't like saying we're fighting ISIS when they've got resupply, C-130s landing, delivering them weapons on the hour.
► 03:30:49
In battle with Russian commandos who are on the right side.
► 03:30:53
You think America, the actual military, likes being clearly on the bad side with Al-Qaeda, launching wars, and then back home, we gotta take your rights away because of Al-Qaeda.
► 03:31:04
Do you think anybody in the government likes being part of that?
► 03:31:08
So Alex Jones in that clip essentially is saying that we are on the wrong side of everything.
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Russia is on the right side of everything.
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But how?
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What is his justification for it?
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We have funded and created al-Qaeda and ISIS in order to destabilize Syria.
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And because of that...
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We are on the wrong side of everything.
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Russia and Assad are really just trying to destroy the forces that we have brought in there for destabilization.
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And, you know, that makes sense.
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I just don't get that very simplistic argument.
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Because it's dumb?
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In the same way that there's a kernel of truth to it that is also such a willful misunderstanding.
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Misunderstanding of the way that the world works, it's hard to imagine.
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Totally.
► 03:32:07
So, Alex Jones is in favor of Russia and Assad.
► 03:32:11
Great.
► 03:32:11
Cool.
► 03:32:12
But what's the motivation for him being in favor of Assad at this point?
► 03:32:17
We already talked about it.
► 03:32:18
We already talked about it.
► 03:32:19
He's in favor of all of these Russian propaganda outlets.
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He's beholden to RT and Sputnik as information sources.
► 03:32:30
I mean, yeah, you make the good point of him as information sources, but...
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They put out stories about...
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If you do even...
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No, because the things that you will say about Assad being oppressive to his people...
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Murdering!
► 03:32:47
Not being oppressive!
► 03:32:48
Murdering!
► 03:32:49
Right.
► 03:32:49
All that stuff.
► 03:32:51
Yeah.
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Gassing.
► 03:32:52
I like how you yada yada.
► 03:32:54
All that stuff.
► 03:32:55
No, no, no.
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That's what I was going to get to as my sentence went along.
► 03:32:58
No, no, no, no.
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I know.
► 03:32:59
I just had to...
► 03:33:00
The Russian version of it that comes out in Sputnik and RT is that it is Western-backed rebel forces that are faking these attacks.
► 03:33:10
I didn't know that.
► 03:33:11
Yeah, that is the narrative.
► 03:33:12
That's their narrative?
► 03:33:13
Yes.
► 03:33:13
For real?
► 03:33:14
Yes!
► 03:33:15
And that's the narrative that Alex buys.
► 03:33:17
And that's why we've talked about this on the show a bunch of times.
► 03:33:21
Yeah.
► 03:33:21
Alex has these people on who are...
► 03:33:24
Disreputable sources, like Larry C. Johnson.
► 03:33:27
I can't remember that ambassador guy who he had on, who had clear financial interests.
► 03:33:33
Yeah, of course.
► 03:33:34
Well, if you're Russian and you are on media of any sort, you probably have ties to the oligarchy.
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With a couple exceptions, yes.
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Absolutely.
► 03:33:47
So that is the narrative that Alex is on board with.
► 03:33:53
Seems dumb, seems wild, but that's what he pushes.
► 03:33:58
Every single thing...
► 03:34:00
It's the Assad thing, though, that...
► 03:34:02
Like, I get arguing other Russian things, but Assad has so very clearly...
► 03:34:11
Set out to murder his own people.
► 03:34:14
Well, here's where...
► 03:34:15
It seems like such a...
► 03:34:16
It seems like a Hitler thing all over again.
► 03:34:19
Like, are you for Hitler murdering Jews or against?
► 03:34:23
That's what Assad is to me.
► 03:34:25
Well, here's where Alex gets his leeway.
► 03:34:27
Is that Obama said the red line is using gas attacks on your people.
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And then he didn't do shit.
► 03:34:35
Which he thinks...
► 03:34:37
Which Obama has clearly stated is...
► 03:34:39
One of his more proud moments of not sending the world into World War III.
► 03:34:45
Agreed.
► 03:34:46
But Alex's and all of Russian media's argument about that is, why the fuck would Assad do that if Obama said that that was a red line?
► 03:34:57
Why would they do that?
► 03:34:59
Okay.
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Which is compelling.
► 03:35:01
That's an interesting angle, yeah.
► 03:35:03
I agree.
► 03:35:04
It's compelling to a ton of people if you don't think...
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Obama might have been bluffing.
► 03:35:12
Okay, so...
► 03:35:13
Because the end result legitimately is World War III.
► 03:35:17
So what...
► 03:35:18
Like, if we went in, if Obama saw gassing of the people...
► 03:35:23
Yeah, so he makes his red line.
► 03:35:25
Right.
► 03:35:25
And if Obama knows that it happens, and he doesn't get in there and fucking burn the shit to the ground, then it must be that he also knows it's a false flag.
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Right.
► 03:35:38
Well, and also, before that, Putin had made very clear that he was not going to accept any of our aggression in Syria.
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Yeah, exactly.
► 03:35:47
So, like, it is a much more complicated chess game than Alex has presented.
► 03:35:52
Right, right, right.
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All of it is just to serve this Russian propaganda message.
► 03:35:57
I'm not saying that he's an agent of Russia.
► 03:36:00
That's not...
► 03:36:00
No, but that's...
► 03:36:01
He's just dumb.
► 03:36:02
He falls...
► 03:36:03
That's not the...
► 03:36:03
Yeah, yeah.
► 03:36:04
That's not the narrative.
► 03:36:05
No.
► 03:36:06
Why would you even need him to be an agent of Russia if you have this kind of weird...
► 03:36:12
It's such a...
► 03:36:13
It's such a...
► 03:36:14
Man, foreign policy is tough.
► 03:36:16
I don't know...
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It's very complicated.
► 03:36:19
Dan, I don't know if you know this or not, but global foreign policy?
► 03:36:24
Very complicated.
► 03:36:25
I'm a wonk.
► 03:36:26
Anyway.
► 03:36:27
Very complicated.
► 03:36:28
So, all that aside, I want to be entirely clear.
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We've made a lot of mistakes in terms of arming rebels and stuff like that throughout the entirety of our history as a country.
► 03:36:41
America?
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Yeah.
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Disagree.
► 03:36:43
Right.
► 03:36:44
You know me, I'm pro-nationalism.
► 03:36:47
That said, Putin, Assad are not good guys.
► 03:36:53
And what they're doing in Syria?
► 03:36:54
Not good.
► 03:36:55
Assad should be lit on fire.
► 03:36:57
Yeah.
► 03:36:57
Now.
► 03:36:57
Right now.
► 03:36:58
If you are a knowledge fighter and you are within, let's say, three feet of Assad and you can light him on fire, please light him on fire.
► 03:37:08
Just make him hot for a little bit.
► 03:37:10
Just burn him to death.
► 03:37:12
No, if you've got like a...
► 03:37:14
If he survives, you're lighting him on fire.
► 03:37:17
Lighting him on fire ten more times.
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And then meme it.
► 03:37:25
Yeah, like the anti-CNN memes you.
► 03:37:29
Actually, Alex just paid out $20,000.
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Alright, kill us all.
► 03:37:33
Just paid out $20,000.
► 03:37:34
Just fucking, I'm done.
► 03:37:35
What a shock.
► 03:37:36
I'm done.
► 03:37:37
What a shock.
► 03:37:38
You know who won?
► 03:37:38
Who won?
► 03:37:39
Some guy that Alex Jones offered a job to.
► 03:37:42
Jesus, no.
► 03:37:43
I texted you about this.
► 03:37:43
No, no, no.
► 03:37:44
It was that guy?
► 03:37:45
Well, there were two guys.
► 03:37:46
Fuck off.
► 03:37:47
Two guys.
► 03:37:47
Yeah.
► 03:37:48
Alex Jones offered a job to the first and second place guys.
► 03:37:52
But here was the fucking awesome, like, I wish, I'm so, I'm an idiot because I don't have the clip of this.
► 03:37:59
Yeah.
► 03:37:59
But it's so fucking hilarious.
► 03:38:01
He's sitting there and he's like, alright, I told Paul Joseph Watson he got to pick the winner and I don't think this is the winner.
► 03:38:10
I think the winner is the Braveheart one.
► 03:38:13
That guy's great.
► 03:38:14
You got a job.
► 03:38:15
Just hit me up.
► 03:38:16
You got a job.
► 03:38:17
Please.
► 03:38:18
I want to work with you.
► 03:38:19
You got a job.
► 03:38:19
A guy did a Braveheart version of, you know, it's just Braveheart, but Trump is William Wallace.
► 03:38:25
And he's like, you got a job.
► 03:38:27
No, look, I told Paul Joseph Austin he could choose the winner.
► 03:38:31
You get the $20,000.
► 03:38:32
It's honor bound.
► 03:38:34
What did Rapoport have to do to get a job?
► 03:38:36
He just cucked out the winner of the fucking contest that he started.
► 03:38:39
Of course.
► 03:38:40
So the winner was...
► 03:38:41
Okay.
► 03:38:42
Of course it's a movie.
► 03:38:44
I'm going to give you three guesses.
► 03:38:46
I'm going to give you three guesses.
► 03:38:48
And now consider the mythology...
► 03:38:50
Gladiator.
► 03:38:51
That's your first?
► 03:38:52
Gladiator.
► 03:38:53
No.
► 03:38:54
That's also my second.
► 03:38:55
Gladiator again.
► 03:38:56
Consider the mythology of Infowars.
► 03:38:58
Okay.
► 03:38:59
How he talks about false realities.
► 03:39:01
Oh, The Patriot.
► 03:39:02
No.
► 03:39:04
You got one more.
► 03:39:06
This should be obvious.
► 03:39:07
All other Mel Gibson movies.
► 03:39:09
No, but it should be obvious.
► 03:39:11
Come on.
► 03:39:12
You got this.
► 03:39:14
InfoWars.
► 03:39:18
A Scanner Darkly?
► 03:39:19
Like, I don't know.
► 03:39:20
That's closer.
► 03:39:21
Matrix.
► 03:39:22
Oh, come on!
► 03:39:24
No, you can't even...
► 03:39:25
That was made by trans women!
► 03:39:28
Yeah, I know.
► 03:39:29
You don't get to steal that!
► 03:39:31
Oh, they did.
► 03:39:32
You don't get to!
► 03:39:34
It's that scene where Agent Smiths are shooting at Neo down a hallway.
► 03:39:40
He stops the bullets.
► 03:39:41
Yeah.
► 03:39:42
And all the bullets are fake news.
► 03:39:45
Oh, fuck off.
► 03:39:46
Yeah, it's not that.
► 03:39:47
Jesus Christ.
► 03:39:48
But he paid $20,000 and has offered both of them jobs.
► 03:39:53
Have we considered doing one of those?
► 03:39:55
No.
► 03:39:55
I bet we could come up with a better idea.
► 03:39:56
We can't play Meme Warfare.
► 03:39:57
That's true.
► 03:39:58
That's nonsense.
► 03:39:59
That's true.
► 03:39:59
That is a fickle fly-by-night piece of bullshit.
► 03:40:02
Yeah.
► 03:40:03
Anyway, we gotta get these last two clips out.
► 03:40:05
We've got two?
► 03:40:07
Yeah.
► 03:40:08
We're on hour seven and a half.
► 03:40:11
Jordan.
► 03:40:12
Yes.
► 03:40:13
The debate.
► 03:40:14
Yes.
► 03:40:16
Alex mentioned this a little bit earlier, that Trump said some good things in the debate.
► 03:40:21
Right.
► 03:40:22
Now, one of them was that people speak English here, not Spanish.
► 03:40:25
I didn't like that.
► 03:40:26
I didn't like that.
► 03:40:28
But said some other things that Alex did like.
► 03:40:33
And they're not good.
► 03:40:36
But I gotta say, as a litmus test, Donald Trump coming out against vaccines and saying I got a lot of friends and family who's got brain-damaged kids from this shows that he really cares about people.
► 03:40:49
No!
► 03:40:50
And he knows the system's going to come after him, and he understands what's going on, and when the rubber meets the road, he doesn't want to be involved in brain damaging tens of millions of children.
► 03:40:59
Which is why he's removing healthcare.
► 03:41:01
It is a fact that vaccines are linked to increased cancer, neurological disorders, autoimmune disorders.
► 03:41:06
It says it on the stinking inserts, and Ben Carson, a medical doctor, a brain surgeon, not an epidemiologist, not a virologist, He just sits there and says it's wonderful because he's a good guy as a doctor, so he believes everything they're doing must be wonderful.
► 03:41:24
I like you making fun of his doctorate when you're also not a doctor.
► 03:41:29
But in the debate, Trump talked about how when he had kids...
► 03:41:39
He spaced out the vaccines.
► 03:41:42
That's the argument that I've heard a bunch recently.
► 03:41:45
If they get that full vaccine, it's a horse tranquilizer.
► 03:41:49
It's a big, huge horse needle, which isn't true at all.
► 03:41:53
No.
► 03:41:55
I don't want to put too fine a point on this, and we're already four hours into this podcast, but I have looked into all of it and all of the anti-vax stuff.
► 03:42:06
It's bullshit.
► 03:42:07
It's all bullshit.
► 03:42:08
It's absolute nonsense.
► 03:42:09
Andrew Wakefield.
► 03:42:11
It's been bullshit since the 1890s.
► 03:42:14
Since vaccines were created, one guy got a fucking thing happen to him within two weeks of a vaccine, and he was like, well, it's vaccines.
► 03:42:24
It is always bullshit.
► 03:42:26
It is always fucking bullshit.
► 03:42:28
I can't begin.
► 03:42:29
I can't begin.
► 03:42:31
To deal with how much I hate you if you're an anti-vaccine.
► 03:42:36
Well, all of it is sussed out legitimately by one sentence.
► 03:42:40
That is one of the most important sentences in terms of statistics.
► 03:42:45
And that is that correlation does not imply causation.
► 03:42:50
If there is something that there is a slight relation to, you can't say just because there's a relation that X caused Y. Yeah.
► 03:42:59
Like, you can't.
► 03:43:01
Correlation does not equal causation is the bane of our existence.
► 03:43:06
The fact that it is true and the fact that it is almost impossible for most people to recognize is the most destructive force in my lifetime.
► 03:43:18
One of the biggest cases about this, and Alex Jones talks about, you know, like in the UB, the guy who did studies about vaccines.
► 03:43:28
It was the Dred Scott case, right?
► 03:43:29
No.
► 03:43:29
It was this guy named Andrew Wakefield, and he did some studies that were called into question, and he got fired because it turned out he was taking...
► 03:43:43
A ton of money from lawyers.
► 03:43:46
Discredited and his license was revoked.
► 03:43:50
There were lawyers who were trying to get a class action lawsuit going on behalf of people who hated vaccines.
► 03:43:58
Yeah.
► 03:43:59
And he got like $400,000 from those lawyers.
► 03:44:03
And so all of his studies, people who signed on to his studies in the past not knowing that monetary payment.
► 03:44:12
Who were involved, they were like, oh shit.
► 03:44:15
Wait, hold on a second.
► 03:44:17
Are you saying that when you get money involved with healthcare, bad things happen?
► 03:44:23
Especially with studies.
► 03:44:24
Nah.
► 03:44:25
Can't believe it.
► 03:44:26
Especially when conclusions are...
► 03:44:28
Capitalism!
► 03:44:29
Free market!
► 03:44:30
Free market, baby.
► 03:44:31
Guns!
► 03:44:32
Prosperity.
► 03:44:34
Prosperity.
► 03:44:36
Anyway, Alex is pretty thrilled with that anti-vax message.
► 03:44:41
But I honestly think, if I can be totally clear, I think that no matter what happened in that debate, Alex would find something to love.
► 03:44:53
About Trump?
► 03:44:54
Yeah.
► 03:44:54
You think so?
► 03:44:55
Yeah.
► 03:44:55
I think it's in his timeline.
► 03:44:57
So you think this is the money situation again?
► 03:45:00
I do.
► 03:45:01
So he fixated on one thing that Trump said.
► 03:45:05
Like, now I kind of want to go back.
► 03:45:07
Can I tell you why?
► 03:45:08
I would rather die, but I kind of want to go back and watch that debate to see how many things Trump said that he would have disagreed with versus how many he did agree with.
► 03:45:18
I have no idea, but I did go back and look into Trump's anti-vax history.
► 03:45:24
Yeah.
► 03:45:25
And he got in some fucking hot water like three months before this.
► 03:45:30
For anti-vax stuff.
► 03:45:31
And he has an anti-vax history that goes back to like 2005.
► 03:45:38
Oh, so it's a full-on birther kind of situation where it's been there from the beginning.
► 03:45:42
This isn't news.
► 03:45:44
This is just he said it at a debate.
► 03:45:46
Right.
► 03:45:47
And so Alex Jones' position is like, he's going to be attacked for this.
► 03:45:50
But he had been attacked for it already.
► 03:45:53
He's pretending that this is some sort of like...
► 03:45:56
New wrinkle in his character, which it's not.
► 03:45:59
I honestly think...
► 03:46:00
Well, I mean, in the context of his campaign, has this been a thing?
► 03:46:04
No, I don't think this has been.
► 03:46:06
He's been too busy complaining about immigrants, though.
► 03:46:08
Well, and in the same way that in his campaign, it hasn't been all about birtherism, you know?
► 03:46:14
It hasn't been all about...
► 03:46:16
Hey, he didn't start that.
► 03:46:18
He stopped it.
► 03:46:21
Yeah.
► 03:46:21
Yeah.
► 03:46:23
So I think...
► 03:46:25
I think that there's a little bit of manipulation going on.
► 03:46:28
Yeah.
► 03:46:28
A little bit.
► 03:46:30
And if Alex Jones...
► 03:46:31
At the very least.
► 03:46:33
In terms of our show, this is...
► 03:46:35
Maybe four episodes back.
► 03:46:37
But Alex Jones, when he made his pivot to stop talking shit about Trump in terms of his mob ties, he said, I went back and I did deep research on him.
► 03:46:49
I went and watched all his speeches.
► 03:46:52
And if he had done that, he would already know that he has a history of being an anti-vaccination guy.
► 03:46:59
He hasn't been not that for years.
► 03:47:02
So this shouldn't be news to him.
► 03:47:06
Such a luxury for rich people to be anti-vax.
► 03:47:09
Such a luxury.
► 03:47:11
Yeah.
► 03:47:12
Oh, my kids go to all schools where everybody has been vaccinated, so I don't have to worry about it.
► 03:47:19
And they're not pregnant.
► 03:47:20
Also, this version of anti-vax, where it's like, I spaced it out over six years.
► 03:47:27
Fucking fuck you.
► 03:47:29
Yeah, it's not great either.
► 03:47:30
Fuck you.
► 03:47:34
I've established it, I think, pretty consistently.
► 03:47:38
But if you're anti-vax, I hope you kill yourself and then kill your children.
► 03:47:45
That seems hard.
► 03:47:46
No, that's a good order for that.
► 03:47:48
Alright, well, we all know that our descendants are still with us.
► 03:47:53
We got one more clip, and this is Alex talking more about Trump's anti-vax position.
► 03:48:00
What I know.
► 03:48:02
About what he's going to be going through now for saying that.
► 03:48:05
And looking at the look in his eye, I guarantee you Donald Trump doesn't like seeing his friends have brain-damaged kids all around him.
► 03:48:12
It's a large portion of people have giggling, happy 18-month-old baby boys.
► 03:48:17
Their blood-brain barrier is not strong as a girl's.
► 03:48:19
They go in to get that last round of shots.
► 03:48:22
Billy don't ever talk again.
► 03:48:24
That's why a lot of members of Congress are against vaccines.
► 03:48:27
Because, you know, you or your kid or your grandchildren take a shot and never talk again, that'll wake some people up.
► 03:48:34
So I got to say it.
► 03:48:36
Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Donald Trump, they are the three presidential contenders, in my view, from a position of liberty.
► 03:48:44
Now we have come to our own new place.
► 03:48:48
Yeah, we've narrowed it down.
► 03:48:51
And that's fucked up.
► 03:48:52
Yeah.
► 03:48:53
Because he loves Rand Paul.
► 03:48:55
He will, very soon, humiliate Ted Cruz.
► 03:48:59
Yeah.
► 03:49:00
And he will become the biggest blowjob machine for Donald Trump.
► 03:49:06
Which is funny.
► 03:49:07
That is the one true joy I took out of that campaign, is Ted Cruz turning into a little bitch.
► 03:49:14
Jesus.
► 03:49:15
This is...
► 03:49:18
Like, I don't know how to say it.
► 03:49:21
I was right.
► 03:49:26
So what you're saying is that we began this episode with Dan being right, and we ended it with Dan being right.
► 03:49:33
I think I'm right, but not the way I expected.
► 03:49:38
I predicted earlier that when Alex makes his pivot to Trump, it will be superficial.
► 03:49:46
It'll be about some issue that...
► 03:49:49
He already...
► 03:49:50
It's not like...
► 03:49:51
Right.
► 03:49:52
It's not new.
► 03:49:52
It's not new.
► 03:49:53
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 03:49:54
And that is what he has sort of done.
► 03:49:56
Now, he's not the cheerleader yet.
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He's still just saying these three guys are liberty candidates.
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He's narrowed it down.
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Yeah.
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Which is...
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Already fucked up enough as it is.
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Yeah.
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Like, the candidate...
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I don't understand how it is that he...
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Professes to be libertarian and theoretically nonpartisan.
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And yet at the same time, every enemy is leftist.
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Every fear comes from inclusion.
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Every fear comes from any kind of like...
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We should all be part of the same world, which is also his professed ideology in that the globalists are trying to keep us from becoming an inclusive society.
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He wants the inclusion, but he knows that it's a globalist plot.
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He's talked about Sanders a couple times already, and he's been like, this fucking ding-dong, this asshole.
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Which, to me, it seems like he would wind up coming down between Sanders and Rand Paul.
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That's what Jesse Ventura does.
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Exactly, exactly.
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Because Jesse Ventura is pure.
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Ventura is like, hey, Sanders or Rand Paul.
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Yeah.
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That's what Ventura is.
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Jesse Ventura has a philosophy.
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He has an ideological consistency, and Alex doesn't believe...
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Really?
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In anything?
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I honestly think what we're coming to, and what I've learned from listening to these past three weeks or two weeks that we've covered, is he is a harsh, opportunistic asshole.
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He wants his money.
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He wants his money.
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And I think...
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He realized when Joe...
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That's actually going to be the...
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When we write the screenplay for our documentary, it will be the tagline is, Alex Jones, he wants his money.
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Well, we predicted earlier that it would be a thing where it's like he's trying to get the Mercers or Trump to try and come in as big money donors.
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And that may still be the case.
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But I think he started this million dollar campaign.
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It's not happening.
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In the meantime, we've recognized Joe Pigs went out there and everyone wanted that shirt.
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Yeah.
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That is a market we can fucking tap into.
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How do we rationalize this?
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We rationalize it.
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There was a debate last night.
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He said something anti-vaccination that he's said a hundred times already.
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Right.
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Now it's like, fuck.
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We soft kill babies.
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He's against that.
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All right.
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I'm in.
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Maybe.
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That's so disappointing.
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I want it to be some kind of nefarious thing.
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It's still nefarious.
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It's still pretty nefarious.
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That's a good point.
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It needs, to me, in order for us to...
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I don't know.
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I guess it's more like I feel like we need a scoop.
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Right.
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Like, I feel like we need some kind of angle that nobody's ever touched before.
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But if it just winds up being weird, shitty opportunism, it bums me out, right?
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Like, shouldn't there be some sort of Mercer money?
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Shouldn't there be some sort of, like, third-party donor who's like, all right, now I direct things.
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It used to be the gold guy.
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But now it's me.
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Well, Ted Anderson is involved to this day, so he hasn't gone.
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I mean, gold guys are always going to be around.
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But I would say that you should take solace in knowing that no one has done as much listening to his show as we have.
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I don't take solace in that at all.
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But we do have a scoop, whatever the case is.
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That's true.
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Even if it isn't.
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That the Mercers are the ones who did it.
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Or Trump money.
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There's still a scoop here.
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Because he didn't fucking care about Trump two days before.
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And now he's a fucking contender.
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Right back on an anti-vaxxer situation.
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He's all over the place.
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And when he becomes the 1776 2.0 guy, it's not...
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It's not because of things Trump said five years ago.
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Well, that's the thing that gets me, is that it seems like right now he's going off of things Trump says.
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Like, he's going off of things that Trump...
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Like, Trump says something I like, so I say nice things about him.
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Trump says something I don't like, so I don't say nice things about him.
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Trump says something I like.
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Like, that's the problem that I have.
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It should be something that is at least consistent.
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And until we get to that consistent point...
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It just seems like he's full of shit.
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Yeah, you're a dum-dum.
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There's never going to be...
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Fair.
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Fair.
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No, that's fair.
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There's never going to be a point when Alex Jones is consistent.
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Fair.
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Yeah, he's a crazy person.
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I don't know why, but I still...
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He has brain damage.
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I still live in this world of, like...
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He did mess.
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I still live in the world of...
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I believe people believe in things, and Alex doesn't.
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And that's why you're right about that fucking meme, is that the consistent argument is always people believe shit, and Alex doesn't have a belief system.
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Alex has elves, and then we move on.
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He's rogue.
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He's completely rogue.
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As are all of those fucking alt-right guys.
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It doesn't matter to them.
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They move on.
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In the same way that in that story that Tom Arnold told, they got to get a bunch of publicity out of calling Tom Arnold a pussy and then canceling the fight.
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And no one on their side knows that they canceled the fight.
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It just didn't happen.
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They can say he backed out.
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He was involved with the coordination of it.
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It doesn't matter.
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It doesn't matter.
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Perception is king.
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All of it's bullshit.
► 03:56:44
Everything is bullshit.
► 03:56:46
Anyway, we'll be back with the next stage of this investigation and other shit.
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I don't want to talk about the present much, but...
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Unless the present turns out to be very interesting, which so far to this circumstance, it is...
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Been very depressing.
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Well, it's just like he doesn't talk about the actual things that are happening in the administration.
► 03:57:07
No, it's been boring.
► 03:57:08
Yeah, it's just like, oh, Scaramucci's in.
► 03:57:11
Hey, that's because Sean Spicer was a deep state agent.
► 03:57:14
It would be really interesting, though, if he did get into, like, if he did have sources, like Donald Trump Jr., who would get him inside information on how the dynamics of the administration was working.
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Which, by the way, this week, Bananas.
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This week, as this episode comes out, Junior may have to show up in front of the Senate.
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As will DT himself.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So we'll see.
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I mean, they're probably going...
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They won't.
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No.
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Of course not.
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No.
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They're going to be pardoned.
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You get it?
► 03:57:52
Yeah.
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But, hey, if you don't want to be pardoned, you should go to our website.
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What?
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Wait, no, no, no.
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Nope, I refuse that transition.
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Reject.
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Nope, that was me.
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Reject entirely.
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That was me slightly buzzed.
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I pivoted on a word.
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Reject entirely.
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If you want to reject something on a word, go to our website.
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This is the evidence that we've been drinking wine this entire episode.
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I did that last episode.
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You don't even remember it.
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That's a good point.
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That's because we've been drinking wine this entire episode.
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Beyond that, I'd like to apologize.
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This episode has been this long.
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Jesus Christ.
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How long has it been?
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We are at four hours.
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This is the longest episode so far.
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Not true.
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Jesus Christ.
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Yes, it is.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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We've not breached four hours.
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We've not breached four?
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No.
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Dude.
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Joe Rogan was the closest, I think.
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You called it 315, and I was like, nah, this ain't happening.
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It's coming to four.
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I think if you had not disrupted me so many times.
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No.
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Don't.
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Don't pretend this wasn't on purpose.
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I was going to make this episode four hours no matter what happened.
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Look, it's the wine, it's the good times, and it's the truth, guys.
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Policy wonks.
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We love you all very much.
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I'll tell you there's somebody we don't love.
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God damn it!
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Damn it!
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Dan!
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You are ruining this!
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I was trying to help.
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I was trying to help, you asshole.
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You asshole!
► 04:00:53
I was trying to help.
► 04:00:54
I was trying to be like, oh shit, there's an inroad to get to John Rappaport.
► 04:00:58
Do you know who doesn't help us?
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This one guy.
► 04:01:00
What one guy?
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This one guy.
► 04:01:02
Who is he?
► 04:01:03
Fuck.
► 04:01:03
I ran into the...
► 04:01:05
Is he young or is he old?
► 04:01:06
He's really old.
► 04:01:07
He's really old?
► 04:01:08
I was at this fucking anti-AIDS conference.
► 04:01:10
I was at this conference.
► 04:01:11
I'm already out.
► 04:01:12
I'm already out.
► 04:01:13
I hung out with him.
► 04:01:14
He was really cool.
► 04:01:15
We did shots of JMO.
► 04:01:16
Yeah.
► 04:01:16
It was super cool.
► 04:01:17
What about him?
► 04:01:18
But at the end of the night, I've got to be honest, I skipped out on his tab.
► 04:01:22
This is the best the bit has gone so far.
► 04:01:24
I skipped out on his tab.
► 04:01:26
At the end of the night, I'm like, he said he was going to the bathroom.
► 04:01:28
I was like, I'll stick around here.
► 04:01:31
What did you say about this guy?
► 04:01:33
I said, fuck you, John Rapoport!
► 04:01:35
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
