Today, Dan tells Jordan about the 10th installment of his investigation into what happened in 2015 to make Alex Jones join up with Team Trump. This segment has very little to do with Trump, but is a nicely encapsulated tale of Alex being very stupid about race, getting his comeuppance, and completely ignoring being shown to be wrong. Also, Dan complains about that Bon Iver/Alex Jones meme.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We are a couple of dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| That's what we do. | ||
| The twist on that, though, is that you, Dan Friesen. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Should I give your full name, or are you a little scared? | ||
| It's too late to go back now. | ||
| We can edit it. | ||
| Come at me, bro. | ||
| I'll say Dan, and you'll just have edited pretty sure most of it. | ||
| Everybody knows who you are. | ||
| It's on your fucking Twitter. | ||
| Anyways. | ||
| Bitch, you know who I am on the street? | ||
| I'm out there. | ||
| This is already out of control. | ||
| I go to the store. | ||
| I go to Petco. | ||
| I feed my cat. | ||
| I'm out there on the streets. | ||
| I'm not afraid of you, InfoWarriors. | ||
| I'm really afraid of you, InfoWarriors. | ||
| I was going to say, you are terrified. | ||
| I am so scared. | ||
| Off air, you text me all the time. | ||
| What if they find us? | ||
| I'm incredibly scared of InfoWarriors, but be that as it may, I know a lot about them, and you don't know anything about them. | ||
| I don't know a goddamn thing. | ||
| And that's where the show finds its fun in discussing our relative perspectives. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That sentence went on too long. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| What do you got over there? | ||
| We are drinking Manzanita Soul. | ||
| I feel like I've had one of these before. | ||
| This is an apple soda. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're drinking apple juice with more sugar in it. | ||
| I love apple juice. | ||
| It's delicious. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| I don't mind it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
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Hey. | |
| Our novelty beverage game has gone more towards the comfortable than the disgusting. | ||
| Much like Icarus, we flew too close to the sun with that coconut juice bullshit. | ||
| Coconut juice is not going to be a good way to go. | ||
| We'll ease our way back up to really bizarre eventually, but for now, let's stay with the soda game. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I'd like to give a shout out to our new donator. | ||
| We got a new policy wonk in the fold, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Get on in here. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| We know him. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| He's a great comedian, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| I'd like to join, welcome to the fold, Mike Wiley. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you for donating, Mike Wiley. | ||
| Holy shit, Mike Wiley! | ||
| Great Chicago comedian. | ||
| Check him out. | ||
| Go find him on Twitter. | ||
| Mike Miley on Twitter. | ||
| We ran a failed show together. | ||
| Just one? | ||
| Oh, I think it failed so hard we're good for a while. | ||
| It counts for two? | ||
| It was a scarring experience. | ||
| Two venues, one... | ||
| Very unsupportive with the crowd. | ||
| The other, very supportive, and nobody ever showed up. | ||
| A lot of people like to ask what it's like to be a comedian in Chicago, and 90% of it is running bad shows. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But bonding through bad show running. | ||
| Bad shows and bad road gigs. | ||
| Love you, Mike. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So... | ||
| Jordan, today we're going to be doing another investigation installment. | ||
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Yes, sir. | |
| Because I hate the present and I don't want to talk about it. | ||
| I was excited. | ||
| I was really hoping walking over here, I was like, Dan doesn't want to talk about the present. | ||
| I do not. | ||
| We'll probably stay in the past. | ||
| Today we will be going over September 2nd, 2015 through September 4th. | ||
| So it's a pretty short period, but there's a very interesting narrative arc that plays out. | ||
| And we'll get to it. | ||
| We'll get to it. | ||
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What's that? | |
| That's what today's episode is about. | ||
| But I want to defend my position that I'm staying... | ||
| We're already on a defensive front. | ||
| I have two things I want to talk about, like sort of general business up top. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The first thing is I read an interesting article today that made a distinction between the alt-right and the alt-light. | ||
| I don't know if you're aware of this distinction. | ||
| I am already furious. | ||
| The alt-right is people like, you know, the most famous one would be Richard Spencer. | ||
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Right. | |
| And a bunch of, like, legit out-and-out Nazis. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| White supremacists, neo-Nazis, that sort. | ||
| It is the official position of the show. | ||
| Everybody gets to punch a Nazi. | ||
| One time. | ||
| Not just once. | ||
| So the alt-light is like Mike Cernovich, Jack Posobiec, Gavin McGinnis. | ||
| All these people that are sort of in our sphere. | ||
| These people that come up on Alex's show and we talk about. | ||
| And I think that one thing I want to say is that we call those dudes alt-right. | ||
| And they make the argument that they're not alt-right. | ||
| And they've split from the alt-right because they don't want to be associated with the white supremacy. | ||
| Of the alt-right. | ||
| So they're the alt-right. | ||
| And they want to be treated differently. | ||
| Yeah, they want to be the alt-right skin color party. | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| To that I say... | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| No, go fuck yourself! | ||
| Just because it rhymes doesn't mean you get to count it. | ||
| No, fuck off! | ||
| If you're in a barn, the out-and-out KKK is wearing hoods, and the alt-right is wearing the robes, but they took their hood off. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I hope the burn burns down with all of you inside of me. | ||
| Well, there's a couple things I want to say. | ||
| First of all, light sort of implies that we're the light version of that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which means that you are a version of that. | ||
| 185 calories! | ||
| You are the thin version of racism. | ||
| You don't want to be any version of racism if possible. | ||
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So I don't think that's a really great defense. | |
| Identify themselves as pretty racist. | ||
| We're not crazy racist. | ||
| Yeah, we're the healthier version of these racists. | ||
| Fuck off, first of all. | ||
| Second of all, I've done enough looking into these people, especially through their appearances and the prism of Alex Jones, as they come into our natural sphere. | ||
| But also Gavin McGinnis watched a bunch of his bullshit videos online. | ||
| Jack Posobiec I've spent a lot of time with. | ||
| Mike Cernovich, certainly. | ||
| You have just described hell. | ||
| You realize that. | ||
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I have spent a lot of time with those three people is hell. | |
| I'm doing it to myself, which is bizarre. | ||
| But what I want to say is... | ||
| Dan, we all create our own hell. | ||
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Now, Jordan, this is an important point. | |
| No, I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm trying to derail you. | ||
| This is a very important point. | ||
| The people who are listed in the alt-right section of it, those people are some real fucked up racists. | ||
| They are some out-and-out, like, dangerous... | ||
| White supremacist Nazi types. | ||
| I think they're a problem. | ||
| I don't want to do a show about them. | ||
| Very controversial point of view. | ||
| I don't want to do a show about them. | ||
| I want to do and I focus on these alt-light people who are alt-right despite whatever they want to call themselves. | ||
| Please don't indulge in the rebranding of out-and-out racists. | ||
| Don't allow them to rebrand themselves that way. | ||
| Because that's what they're covering it as. | ||
| But the reason that I think that it's... | ||
| Possibly even more important to focus on these people, as opposed to the admittedly more dangerous people in the alt-right section, is because they are how people get radicalized to the alt-right people. | ||
| They're like the pipeline. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No one is going to find the, well, maybe a couple people, but a very small minority of people are going to just find the heroin first and go to it. | ||
| They need to be sort of... | ||
| Eh, started doing some coke. | ||
| It didn't work. | ||
| Eh, that's not the pipeline. | ||
| You get what I'm saying, though. | ||
| I get what you're saying. | ||
| Your metaphor is tortured, as are we all by the alt-right. | ||
| Well, people start with, like, Gavin McGinnis, and maybe they become a Proud Boy, because it seems like a fun fraternal organization. | ||
| And then as they go along, they become one of the alt-knights. | ||
| They become part of the army version of the Proud Boys. | ||
| And then a little bit later, it's not enough for them, and they find, oh my god, look at all these other people. | ||
| They're onto some real shit. | ||
| It is a progression. | ||
| And people like Alex Jones... | ||
| Everyone who talks about him online positively says like, ah, he says some crazy stuff, but without him my eyes never would have been opened. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They are the intermediaries to really fucked up radicalization online. | ||
| And if you cut that off, the people who are really extreme will not have access to the main, like, most people. | ||
| Okay, I'm gonna come right out the gate and disagree with you. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| And I'll tell you, I don't think it's a pipeline. | ||
| And I don't think... | ||
| I do agree with you, though. | ||
| These people, to me, are far more dangerous. | ||
| Because they have the air of respectability and normalcy. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I'm not afraid of Richard Spencer. | ||
| Richard Spencer is laughable. | ||
| Because everybody can look at that, or not everybody, but the large majority of people can look at that and say, nope, that guy says he's a Nazi, so we don't pay attention to him. | ||
| He's heiling. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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Now, the alt-right people who hide their racism, the ones who you see people saying, you know, sometimes they say bad stuff, but you know what? | |
| Sometimes they have a point. | ||
| Right. | ||
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They're not funneling people into the further right. | |
| They're giving people cover So those alts right people, like your Posobiec and Cernoviches, especially your Paul Joseph go fucks himselfses, which is my new favorite word. | ||
| Those guys are a way for people to argue that they are not being racist while still legitimizing their racism. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's what they are. | ||
| So I'm not afraid of them putting people towards that right. | ||
| I'm afraid of them making the middle the right. | ||
| Do you see what I'm saying? | ||
| The Overton window is moved. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They're all Nazis. | ||
| But the guys that we are looking into, to me, are far more dangerous because they're Nazis who don't wear the uniform. | ||
| These are the people who are really good at internet radicalization. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so, to me, It is transitional to some extent. | ||
| What they do is move people into a more extreme headspace. | ||
| And so that is dangerous. | ||
| I believe that, for the most part, I don't even know how to put this, because the really extreme people are a problem in that they might hurt somebody. | ||
| It goes back to what you're saying. | ||
| It's the uniform thing. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Fuck all of them. | ||
| They all are a menace. | ||
| Do not allow anybody to pull this alt-light bullshit. | ||
| They are the same thing. | ||
| Just like we've covered Alex and David Duke. | ||
| Even Alex knows he has to publicly disagree with David Duke. | ||
| Or not. | ||
| Or try to. | ||
| He has to try to, exactly. | ||
| Because if you put it to a large majority of people, even people on the right, that these guys are out-and-out bigots, they know in their head, no, we can't approve out-and-out bigotry. | ||
| This is going to ruin me. | ||
| But if you hide it behind, I don't care what skin color you are. | ||
| Cops shouldn't be murdering people. | ||
| But I only talk about that when it's a white dude. | ||
| To prove that it's equal. | ||
| When it's not. | ||
| Or hiding your racist and bigoted views behind... | ||
| One black pastor who said something similar to what it is you want to say. | ||
| You're just talking specifically Alex Jones now. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But that's the same thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the other thing that's important to keep in mind is that these alt-light people... | ||
| I'm just trying to use that for the sake of clarity. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| In the descriptions of these folk. | ||
| They still are super motivated by anti-globalist ideas. | ||
| And that means... | ||
| That their worldview is based on anti-Semitism. | ||
| And bigotry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just like we've revealed time and time again, their bigotry is of the, you know, hiding behind that globalist word. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you are, I would say 100% of the time, if you are blaming globalists for stuff, you're hiding immense bigotry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's move on. | ||
| And let me defend myself again about why I don't want to be in the present. | ||
| I've listened to the shows. | ||
| None of us want to be in the present, Dan. | ||
| Monday's show this week on the 17th, a lot of it was Alex Jones complaining about how robots got the statistics right. | ||
| And he brings up very flimsy evidence for how he knew Trump was going to win the election. | ||
| And he's just rambling about how 60% of the public supports him. | ||
| All these polls are fake. | ||
| Blah, blah, blah. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| I had to turn the show off. | ||
| It's so boring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Then Tuesday on the 18th. | ||
| So I make this argument all the fucking time. | ||
| And I've made it even recently. | ||
| I've made it in response to tweets that people have sent me and messages when they... | ||
| Send me the newest hot Alex Jones meme. | ||
| I've made the argument that this feels good, but you're helping him. | ||
| Whenever you play into these things that make him a joke and make him funny, you are not doing anybody any good. | ||
| Now listen to this clip from Tuesday's show that really just makes my argument for me. | ||
| This is the present, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 2017. | ||
| On Infowars.com, linking right through to major German newspapers like Der Spiegel. | ||
| Germany's Syrian hairdresser, hailed as a model of integration, slits his female employer's throat. | ||
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Wait, is that celebratory? | |
| That sounds like he's celebrating. | ||
| Ha ha. | ||
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Oh, I smile. | |
| We love our Muslims. | ||
| Oh, they're so good. | ||
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Oh, they're so sweet. | |
| We love our smiles. | ||
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We love our Muslims. | |
| Do you realize that you're celebrating the throat slashing? | ||
| More and more, more and more, I am going to, every time we report on people screaming Allah Akbar and stabbing men, women, and children, I'm going to play clips from the Time Warner hit piece they put out via Super Deluxe, where they make it look like I'm just making stuff up, where I go, we're going to stab your daughter at the mall. | ||
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We're going to stab your wife, your son. | |
| That was a real article I was reading where the police chief came out and said, Somalis are wonderful. | ||
| This is an Islamic attack. | ||
| And there was another stabbing like a day later at a university in Ohio. | ||
| Because they had a couple stabbings in Minnesota, then one in Ohio, then one in Texas, then one in New York, and then just a whole bunch of these attacks. | ||
| And the news was like, we love our Somalis. | ||
| We love our Muslims. | ||
| Oh, they're so good. | ||
| Oh, they're so sweet. | ||
| Because here it is. | ||
| I shouldn't laugh about it. | ||
| Syrian hairdresser hailed his model of integration. | ||
| That's a quote. | ||
| Slits his female employer's throat. | ||
| And then they got all these articles with her groveling and talking about how nice he was. | ||
| You can't play this game with Alex. | ||
| He is... | ||
| Really good at using attacks against him to his advantage. | ||
| You just give him ammo. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| That Bon Iver video parody is funny. | ||
| It's really funny. | ||
| In a perfect world, we could all laugh at it. | ||
| But unfortunately, here's the score. | ||
| Alex Jones won. | ||
| Meme zero. | ||
| Do you understand? | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| I'm furious about this. | ||
| I am furious as well. | ||
| Because here's the deal. | ||
| I mean, I don't sound like it. | ||
| Generally, my furious voice is significantly higher, but I absolutely agree with you. | ||
| He has nothing in this story that he brings up to go over other than some guy who was an immigrant stabbed a lady in the neck. | ||
| What are the circumstances? | ||
| He worked for her for a year. | ||
| Maybe there was a dispute at work. | ||
| And it's not... | ||
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I... | |
| I think our biggest issue with memeing Alex is that he is a complete and utter sociopath. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's a narcissist. | ||
| That's why he's laughing about this. | ||
| How can you... | ||
| Because that's what he's doing now. | ||
| Every time there is a murder, every single time, he's going to comb through as many murders as he can. | ||
| And if it's a Muslim, he's going to celebrate that murder. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Because that means he's right. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's for murder. | ||
| And he would be doing that anyway. | ||
| That's his modus operandi. | ||
| But now what you've done is given him more incentive to do that. | ||
| And it's not just going to be once every time there's a murder. | ||
| Because here, listen to this. | ||
| This was later in the show. | ||
| Fuck me. | ||
| Here's a story today. | ||
| Germany. | ||
| Syrian hairdressers hailed as model of integration. | ||
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That's a quote. | |
| Same story. | ||
| Slits his female employer's throat. | ||
| Wait, it's the same thing? | ||
| After a little over a year on the job, he just slits his female employer's throat. | ||
| Same story, different clip. | ||
| Oh, we love our Somalis. | ||
| Oh, we love our Muslims too. | ||
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We love our Somalis. | |
| We love our Muslims. | ||
| Oh, they're so good. | ||
| Oh, they're so sweet. | ||
| And so we'll play that each day with the stabbings, the killings, the Allah Akbar's. | ||
| Oh, they're so good. | ||
| Oh, they're so sweet. | ||
| And then we've got to bend over backwards and never report any of this is happening. | ||
| And then say that we're bad. | ||
| So, I mean, congratulations, guys. | ||
| Great work. | ||
| Great work. | ||
| Go fuck yourself, everybody. | ||
| Legitimately. | ||
| Not our listeners. | ||
| You guys are great. | ||
| But I'm furious at the world. | ||
| We're not taking this seriously. | ||
| It drives me up a fucking wall. | ||
| Like, we have a bigot with a massive audience. | ||
| And the best we can do is thousands and thousands of retweets for this fucking video that he's just going to use as propaganda. | ||
| If 10,000 people retweeted that episode we did about Dennis Montgomery, think about the effect that could have. | ||
| If 10,000 people retweeted the episode we did where he was drunk as shit on March 30th of 2017, do you think, what effect would that have? | ||
| We cast a light on this stuff, and maybe it's more difficult. | ||
| It's certainly more difficult to take in than a two-minute video. | ||
| Alex Jones plays the entire video. | ||
| The entire Bon Iver video coming in from break. | ||
| No. | ||
| He embraces it. | ||
| And why wouldn't he? | ||
| It's the smart thing to do. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| If you act like you're mad about it, then the people who made Super Deluxe wins. | ||
| And for right now, especially in the present, where he's got fucking nothing to go on. | ||
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Nothing. | |
| He's spiraling out of... | ||
| He's spiraling into this repetitive bullshit, which for him I think is far more dangerous. | ||
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Totally. | |
| The idea that he's, just like you said, Monday's show was really fucking boring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now he's got this piece to play, now he gets to have fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We all had a good time, but now he gets in on it. | ||
| I don't want him to have fun. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't ever want him to have fun. | ||
| Doesn't it ruin it? | ||
| I don't want him to even have thumbs, let alone fun. | ||
| I mean, this is the inevitable outcome of pretty much all of the times that you try and make these fun memes about him. | ||
| It's just he's going to take it and use it, and you are going to lose. | ||
| And he's going to use every part of the buffalo on it, too. | ||
| It's funny to play the clip. | ||
| It's funny to then get angry at people who think it's actually doing a good job taking him down. | ||
| It's funny to fight against the clip. | ||
| And then it's funny, as we just saw, to use it as its own propaganda every time he feels like it proves his point. | ||
| Yeah, and it reinforces his idea that he's a victim. | ||
| He called it a Time Warner hit piece, as opposed to a funny video. | ||
| A Time Warner! | ||
| Right, it just reinforces that shit. | ||
| But here's the finer point that I want to put on it. | ||
| I tweeted something about this, and I couldn't figure out how to put the rest of it in 140 characters. | ||
| Alex Jones doesn't have a sense of humor. | ||
| He doesn't understand how to use humor. | ||
| It is an incredibly potent tool. | ||
| In terms of rhetoric, in terms of being persuasive... | ||
| Humor is incredibly important. | ||
| You see it in anybody who's given a speech. | ||
| If you don't have the kind of charm that elicits laughter, you're gonna bore people. | ||
| And Alex Jones can't get by on his own in terms of humor. | ||
| He needs other people to do it for him. | ||
| So this Bon Iver video, and I know it wasn't Bon Iver that did it, but this parody video does it for him. | ||
| He doesn't have to be funny. | ||
| You're doing the hard part for him when you make videos like this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So everyone should go fucking fly a kite. | ||
| That said, it's still pretty funny. | ||
| It's still a pretty funny video. | ||
| In a perfect world, it's very funny. | ||
| And it's a smart idea. | ||
| It was well executed. | ||
| Bon Iver has a very distinct sound. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And yeah. | ||
| If the consequences weren't what they were, and if they didn't reinforce the... | ||
| I don't even know how to say it. | ||
| I'm just... | ||
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Dan. | |
| Jordan. | ||
| Let's go back in time. | ||
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We love you. | |
| We love you, Dan. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| Dan, we all love you. | ||
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Shut up! | |
| Dan, we want you to be happy. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let's go back in time. | ||
| I'll be happier in 2015. | ||
| If every policy wonk clapped their hands right now, Dan would come back to life. | ||
| I'm no Tinkerbell. | ||
| Let's go back in time, Jordan. | ||
| Let's get back to 2015 where I can be happy and fancy free. | ||
| So, when we left... | ||
| Alex Jones, in 2015, September 1st, had just announced that he was going to do a 27-hour marathon for Project Money Bomb. | ||
| Money Bomb! | ||
| Operation Money Bomb, which we have insinuated, and it's my conviction that this is the opportunity for big money to come into his show and persuade him to become part of Team Trump. | ||
| That is where we left off last time. | ||
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Right. | |
| We pick up our investigation on September 2nd. | ||
| And Alex is weird. | ||
| He's very weird on September 2nd. | ||
| And he's into some race shit, my man. | ||
| He wants to talk race. | ||
| That's how you get those white folks to bring that money in. | ||
| Here's the first clip. | ||
| He wants to talk, you know, about some murders. | ||
| And they just got announced. | ||
| Again, homicide suspected in an off-duty Texas officer's death in his home. | ||
| We have another cop shot, of course, in Houston over the weekend. | ||
| We have the TV reporter and the cameraman killed, and much of it is black-on-white activity. | ||
| With Louis Farrakhan, we played the clip yesterday, saying it's time to go out and start killing people that are killing us. | ||
| And that ties into the different radio shows that are out there where folks are calling for the murder of police officers. | ||
| This is tremendously important. | ||
| He has just tied together all of his narrative that we're going to be discussing today in one 40-second soundbite. | ||
| Black people killing cops. | ||
| Black people killing white people and especially cops. | ||
| Louis Farrakhan has come out and put out a video. | ||
| Alex Jones does play it later in this investigation. | ||
| But just to give you a short version of it, it's Louis Farrakhan saying that if we are being killed... | ||
| And we have no redress, then what we must do is stalk and kill those who would kill us. | ||
| Which is fair. | ||
| That is... | ||
| That makes perfect sense. | ||
| It's extreme. | ||
| I mean, what else do you do at a certain point? | ||
| It's extreme, but it makes a lot of sense. | ||
| When you have a group that is oppressed and has no other possibility of justice, like, none. | ||
| If the justice system doesn't even pretend to work for you. | ||
| Like, if you don't even have a little bit. | ||
| Frankly, people would be happier if the cop was convicted and given just a year than they would be if he wasn't even brought before a grand jury. | ||
| That's just the truth. | ||
| And so if you don't have that, there is nothing else but violence. | ||
| Basically. | ||
| There's nothing else. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Rioting is the voice of the unheard. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But Alex Jones also wants to bring in a cop who was killed in his home off-duty. | ||
| There's no indication that that guy was killed because he was a cop. | ||
| There's no details that Alex Jones has about this. | ||
| He's just trying to loop it into his narrative to give extra boost into it. | ||
| So that's great. | ||
| Then he brings in these various radio shows. | ||
| And I want you to remember that. | ||
| Because we're going to get to what he's talking about a little bit down the line. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Various radio shows? | ||
| Various radio shows. | ||
| He's talking about one in specific. | ||
| Who would have guessed? | ||
| Is it Carrie Callahan? | ||
| Spoiler alert, it's not on the radio. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So, here we go. | ||
| Alex wants to yell about Farrakhan a bunch. | ||
| And here we go. | ||
| It has a really great end to this clip, actually. | ||
| I've got to say, Alex makes a very interesting pivot out of being really mad. | ||
| And I think you know exactly what type of pivot he's going to make. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| How long has the Nation of Islam been on the FBI payroll? | ||
| How long has the Nation of Islam been on that Nation of Islam gravy train with the FBI? | ||
| Because I'll tell you something. | ||
| I used to read that and hear that, and I didn't believe it. | ||
| But let me tell you. | ||
| I've never seen anybody be able to get away with what you said and not get in trouble. | ||
| But maybe you are just crazy, because you sure seem to love it when I talked about 1776 commencing again if they try to take our guns. | ||
| But that's because it will commence, not because I want it to commence. | ||
| I was there warning him that he better back down right now with his red coat garbage, and the globalists better understand that they're not going to have their takeover. | ||
| It wasn't because I wanted innocent people to get killed. | ||
| And yeah, I tell you, if the cop that shot that black guy in the back, who they've indicted, doesn't end up getting a hard prison time or the death penalty, then I could see it. | ||
| I wouldn't condone it if somebody went after him, but that would be logical. | ||
| That would be justice. | ||
| It's not justice to shoot some innocent cop in the back. | ||
| Now, I'm done ranting on that subject. | ||
| I'm going to get to these videos in a moment and finish up on it. | ||
| But first, Leanne McAdoo, the lovely, the intelligent, one of the anchors of the Nightly News, Hillary is here with us, and the shirt is a little big on her. | ||
| It's a medium. | ||
| I should have got her a small. | ||
| I wasn't thinking when I said, here, have McAdoo model this for us. | ||
| I appreciate her doing it. | ||
| People wanted it. | ||
| They just came in on the truck. | ||
| We have a limited supply, but we can get more in a few weeks. | ||
| Hillary for prison 2016. | ||
| This is the beginning of the Hillary for prison shirt. | ||
| Yes, but... | ||
| When it comes into reality that he is selling as opposed to... | ||
| Like, he just stole that guy's idea. | ||
| He just stole an idea. | ||
| It's someone else's intellectual property that he's making a ton of money on. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which he admitted on our last episode. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Very ill-advised. | ||
| But what I'm more interested in is this harsh pivot from screaming at Louis Farrakhan about being on the FBI payroll to being like, hey, I understand it. | ||
| If a cop gets away with killing somebody, you want to kill him. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like, well... | ||
| There you go. | ||
| You're halfway there. | ||
| You kind of get it, Alex. | ||
| And then smoothly into, also we got shirts, we're going to say. | ||
| Well, the crazy part about that... | ||
| The anger's so fake. | ||
| It's all so performative. | ||
| You stupid Louis Farrakhan. | ||
| I got shirts, I want to tell you about it. | ||
| You know, we've got to fund the operation. | ||
| See, this is why it's so much better in the past. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Now he would just spit. | ||
| He would just have spittle flying from his mouth because he's not angry about what he's yelling about. | ||
| He's just angry about all the shit that's going down around him. | ||
| He's angry at his lot in life. | ||
| He made the wrong choice somewhere in this 2015 period. | ||
| He made a bad deal, and he's paying for it in 2017. | ||
| By the way, I've listened to a bunch down the road. | ||
| I'm still convinced that I'm right about my theory. | ||
| I still don't have concrete evidence. | ||
| But I'm pretty sure I'm right. | ||
| And one of the reasons that I'm sure I'm right is that Alex, on this September 22nd show, is out of sorts. | ||
| He is just furious and grasping at straws. | ||
| September 2nd. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He said 22nd, I think. | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| Yeah, the September 2nd show, he's just... | ||
| He's furious. | ||
| He's just an angry, angry man and doing a ton of race baiting. | ||
| So I told you to keep in mind that radio show has come back up here in this next clip. | ||
| I'd like to tell you a little bit about what this radio show is. | ||
| It is a radio show on Blog Talk Radio. | ||
| Alright, that famous radio station. | ||
| It's basically a format where you can put out a podcast. | ||
| You'll hear the audio of it. | ||
| It sounds like a guy recorded it through his cell phone. | ||
| It sounds like an answering machine message. | ||
| I looked into the guy. | ||
| His name is King Noble. | ||
| He is a black supremacist. | ||
| Already out. | ||
| Wait, he's a black supremacist? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I'm back in. | ||
| He has 300 followers on Twitter. | ||
| Love him. | ||
| He has 800 followers on Facebook. | ||
| So a real wide net that this guy is hitting, obviously. | ||
| Dude, not to be a dick, we do not have 300 followers on Twitter. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| And that's not what I'm saying. | ||
| I know, I know. | ||
| You're giving an example for how relatively nothing... | ||
| This dude is. | ||
| Alex Jones claims to have 20 million listeners a week. | ||
| He's scooping down that far to make an example? | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| That means you don't have an argument. | ||
| If you're like, oh, this guy on SoundCloud who has five plays, look at what he's saying! | ||
| Like, what are you doing? | ||
| Why are you angry about nothing? | ||
| How do you think he found the clip, too? | ||
| It was on Breitbart. | ||
| Oh, well, but even then, are they just combing the internet? | ||
| Just like, oh, I hope there's something that justifies us! | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| Like, you remember when we went over the Hamdi Ulukaya situation? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| There were writers for Breitbart who just, maybe they have tipsters who tell them about things that they find, or they're just trolling for race-baiting stories. | ||
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Right. | |
| They're just trying to find anything. | ||
| Like, how did you find out about a child-on-child sexual assault? | ||
| In a small town in Idaho. | ||
| Idaho white supremacists who sent that little link to Breitbart. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And it's always going to be the same story. | ||
| That's how these things get traction. | ||
| So, I mean, that's it. | ||
| And it's pathetic. | ||
| What's the blog talk radio? | ||
| What? | ||
| What's he say? | ||
| We're going to listen to it. | ||
| Let's find out! | ||
| Alex Jones is going to give it a little bit of an introduction first, and then he's going to play it. | ||
| He's actually going to play that Super Ducks Deluxe video. | ||
| He's a time traveler, as we've already proved. | ||
| And the arrogant people that are probably working for the feds, if they aren't, they got screwed over by the cops when they were a kid, or some racist, and now they project it on everybody. | ||
| I mean, I had bad cops when I was growing up. | ||
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Wait, he's going to say exactly what he just said about him. | |
| And I was sophisticated enough to not hate all cops or all black people. | ||
| So he just described a group of people and then said that he experienced that same stuff. | ||
| Yeah, but he's evolved enough. | ||
| Yeah, but he knows. | ||
| He knows. | ||
| He knows that's him. | ||
| He does. | ||
| It's him. | ||
| He does. | ||
| He's describing him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the other thing is, he also said that those people work for the FBI. | ||
| Is this his way of trying to subtly say that he works for the FBI secretly? | ||
| By the way, I'm not saying that. | ||
| Does anybody not work for the FBI in his mind? | ||
| Probably he thinks we do, I assume. | ||
| If he finds out about us, probably going to be like, these guys are federales. | ||
| Once we get to 300 followers, we will be taken down. | ||
| Yeah, there's no doubt. | ||
| I guarantee we have more listeners than this blog talk radio show. | ||
| Just because we're shit on social media doesn't mean that we don't have listeners. | ||
| All right, anyway. | ||
| And so it's really just a bunch of babies that like to play the part of victims. | ||
| And think they're going to be big, tough honchos outside the race war. | ||
| Like you! | ||
| If a real race war starts in this country, it's not going to be pretty for, quote, either side. | ||
| Quote? | ||
| But if you look at the historical lines and armaments and the way things are broken down, two different groups can play at the game of going and picking people off. | ||
| This guy talks about, we're going to go pick you off one at a time, like the... | ||
| Lions pick off the, I guess you think it's wildebeest. | ||
| No, this is not a good analogy. | ||
| The lions don't go pick off water buffaloes. | ||
| Water buffaloes kill more people probably than anything in Africa. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| They're more vicious than a lion. | ||
| It's hippos. | ||
| So are hippopotamus. | ||
| This just shows this guy's ignorance. | ||
| And he calls himself the king, the lord. | ||
| It's all part of this narcissistic, sick hip-hop culture. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play this sickening clip. | ||
| King Noble, black supremacy. | ||
| And I want to talk about the shooting of the white deputy sheriff in Houston, Texas. | ||
| Reminds me of Bob Marley's song, I Shot the Sheriff. | ||
| To me, what the Houston, Texas brutal execution before the public represents to me is it's open season of killing whites and white police officers and probably killing cops, period. | ||
| It's open season towards the police department and the police. | ||
| So now you got some black militant or some angry black man walks up and executes a cracker cop in broad daylight. | ||
| This is real. | ||
| It's open season on killing white people and cops. | ||
| It's unavoidable, inescapable. | ||
| It's funny that now we're moving to a time where the predator will become the prey. | ||
| Yes, they said there will be a race war and that we cannot win a race war. | ||
| We're outnumbered. | ||
| They got weapons. | ||
| They got drones. | ||
| They got this. | ||
| They got that. | ||
| But I remind you of the buffaloes who outnumber the lions. | ||
| They're bigger than lions, and they move in larger herds, but they're picked off by lions, one, by one, by one, picking them off. | ||
| Yeah, but buffaloes don't have guns. | ||
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We will witness more executions and killing of white people than we ever have before. | |
| We see with the Houston, Texas shooting, and we see with the news reporting shooting in Virginia. | ||
| It's about to go down. | ||
| It's open season on killing white people and crackers. | ||
| The Black Lives Matter movement wasn't enough. | ||
| We tried to appeal to them to let them know that this type of thing would come and would happen. | ||
| They thought they were indestructible and invincible. | ||
| Because they took advantage of the weakness of black people for too long with all this police brutality. | ||
| All right, that's enough. | ||
| You know, I had David Duke on the show, and he had the courage to come on. | ||
| He had some great ideas. | ||
| I'm going to challenge King Noble, Supremo, Grand, whatever his name is. | ||
| I was making fun of the Klan for all their pimp names, and this guy's got a pimp name as well. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| You're a grand jackass is what you are, King Noble. | ||
| And I want to challenge this guy to use his real name and come on this show. | ||
| And spout all his bull here. | ||
| Because I want to try to explain some things to him. | ||
| I'd have a little more respect if he was saying don't abort your babies or if he was saying don't take Gardasil or don't drink fluoride water. | ||
| That's where the real kill is going on, dummy. | ||
| And it's happening to everybody. | ||
| But instead, you want to sit there and have the media use the few bad examples out of 330 million people. | ||
| That caused a race war. | ||
| Do you have any idea what's going to happen if a real war starts, dummy? | ||
| I mean, number one, people are going to come after you. | ||
| Number one, you're not going to just be some big mouth hiding on the internet. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| So Alex is mad at him and the media for using a few small examples. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| And then he uses... | ||
| A very small example to defend his argument. | ||
| A wildly small example. | ||
| A very small example. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| I wanted to let that play entirely, and I realized I felt it as we were listening to it. | ||
| This is long. | ||
| But the reason I wanted to play it is Alex barely interrupts it. | ||
| And there's a reason for that. | ||
| He wants to paint black people as this. | ||
| So he wants the audience to fully hear everything that this black supremacist is saying, because it feeds into the fear that he wants them to feel. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because normally, if it was just an interview, he'd be like, look, look, there's this woman. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, with anybody who he doesn't respect as much as David Duke, because clearly... | ||
| He allowed David Duke to have parameters set for their debate. | ||
| Well, they negotiated very well in advance. | ||
| Right, but any other time he has someone on who's contentious, they scream at each other. | ||
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Right. | |
| And he just cuts people off like crazy. | ||
| And especially, like, we had that episode where we played his Keith Olbermann analysis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He couldn't stop interrupting that. | ||
| Look at this idiot! | ||
| I'm gonna, let's start the clip again. | ||
| We're going to get through. | ||
| Look at this idiot! | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Let's start the clip again. | ||
| Because he doesn't need Keith Olbermann to create fear in his audience and work into his narrative. | ||
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Right. | |
| All he needs to do is make a mockery of Keith Olbermann. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So it serves his purposes to fully play this. | ||
| And I think it's fascinating because I don't think it's like he sat down and thought about that. | ||
| I think it's just an intrinsic decision he had that is like... | ||
| Oh, they gotta hear this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So at this point, he's played this guy who has, again, a very small audience on blog talk radio and conflated that with Louis Farrakhan. | ||
| And the two of them are making very different statements. | ||
| Louis Farrakhan is saying that if we have no recourse for being killed by cops, we should kill the cops that kill us. | ||
| He's being pretty specific about it. | ||
| There's some room for interpretation or what have you, but I want to make it clear that this is what's going on at the beginning of September 2nd. | ||
| That's where Alex is at. | ||
| That's his narrative for about the first 40 minutes of the show. | ||
| What happens after that? | ||
| The entire rest of the show, until the fourth hour, because who gives a fuck about, I think it's Rob Dew hosting the fourth hour, but the next hour and 20 minutes or so is an interview with Dr. Group. | ||
| About how people need to buy their products. | ||
| Hour and 20 minutes. | ||
| It becomes... | ||
| We've already started the money bomb. | ||
| It becomes a straight-up infomercial. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they're just talking about Shilajit and various other things. | ||
| And infomercial. | ||
| I have actually talked to my doctor friend, Dr. Gums, about some of their products. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| And it's pretty fascinating how full of shit most of them are. | ||
| I want to get him on so he can break down the specifics of it, but man, man oh man, people who fall for this stuff are a real special breed. | ||
| Especially because these bottles of pills cost like 70 bucks, some of them. | ||
| They're very expensive. | ||
| That's garbage. | ||
| See, that's why he can sell those shirts for fucking nothing, because those pills cost 30 cents max. | ||
| And once you start taking them, you feel bad when you don't take them, which may or may not be psychosomatic. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Or it could be... | ||
| No, it can't really be addiction because there's really nothing in them. | ||
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No. | |
| Although, then again... | ||
| They still could fuck with your body, though. | ||
| Yeah, then again, we've talked about how... | ||
| You can have sugar dependence. | ||
| If you're taking 120% of your iodine intake every day, your body has to adapt to having this much iodine. | ||
| And so, of course, whenever you completely remove it, instead of... | ||
| You know, it's just like getting rid of any medication. | ||
| You slowly go off of it. | ||
| Or metal. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And these guys, yeah, like any metal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like any metal. | ||
| Like when we got off the gold standard, it wasn't just immediately. | ||
| You got to taper off metals. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So Alex sells it as, Doctor Group is coming on to talk about the biggest thing to be afraid of. | ||
| It's not vaccines. | ||
| It's not fluoride in the water. | ||
| Doctor Group has... | ||
| The biggest thing to be worried about. | ||
| Chemtrails. | ||
| No, it's nanoparticles in the food. | ||
| Chimeras. | ||
| Nanoparticles in the food. | ||
| Nanoparticles in the food? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a good fear for like 30 years from now. | ||
| I think they're overselling it just a little bit. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| And being very unspecific, but Dr. Group seems to actually have something else that he's way more afraid of than the thing Alex is pimping and really building up as what they're going to talk about. | ||
| Going broke? | ||
| No, it's in this next clip. | ||
| I've got a big article out of RT about the Hadron Collider with even Hawking admitting it's dangerous. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I mean, it's just what I mean. | ||
| Just everything seems to be activating right now. | ||
| You can feel it. | ||
| You can see it. | ||
| And all I want to do is try to have peace and have people live in peace and have prosperity. | ||
| But there is a force. | ||
| Evil's activating is what's happening. | ||
| Evil's making its move. | ||
| That's the big event. | ||
| I mean, I think behind all of this, evil's making its move because it knows the awakening's happening. | ||
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That's right. | |
| And that just really came out of my heart right there. | ||
| I was beyond chills. | ||
| I was like on fire when I said that. | ||
| But that's it. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's exactly what it is. | ||
| The awakening is happening. | ||
| And so the evil is making its move. | ||
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And evil is making its move. | |
| I mean, we talked about it last time. | ||
| I mean, this is serious stuff in CERN with this collider. | ||
| I mean, we're talking about opening up another dimensional. | ||
| We're talking about opening a portal. | ||
| That's in RT. | ||
| Stephen Hawking says it will open another portal. | ||
| And we don't know what's in the other dimension. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I mean, very, very few people were like, check out, could be a portal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Could be a portal, yeah. | ||
| Maybe we're looking for the gravitational particle, or maybe we're inviting Cthulhu into the world. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| We're getting a portal to Rillier. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, with these sort of hypothetical things, there's outside possibilities of, Portals. | ||
| But not the way they're saying it. | ||
| Even then, portal, what he's talking about is a miniaturized black hole. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Essentially what they're talking about. | ||
| Which is not a portal. | ||
| Yeah, not a portal. | ||
| But then also, I love the idea of like... | ||
| I mean, you could turn it into an Einstein-Rosen bridge. | ||
| I love, though, the idea that it's just like this door is going to open up in front of you and like, who knows what's in there? | ||
| Yeah, have you ever seen Hellboy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what happens. | ||
| The giant tentacle monster will come from the sky. | ||
| I need to remind everybody that... | ||
| Dr. Group is a chiropractor. | ||
| He's not a doctor. | ||
| Somebody needs to fold that portal, and who else could stop it? | ||
| It's like the movie Armageddon. | ||
| They get a ragtag band of chiropractors, and they really just gotta kind of pop that portal back into place. | ||
| Completely nuts. | ||
| Let me ask you a question. | ||
| I'd love to answer a question. | ||
| And I'm not sure if we've ever really talked about this. | ||
| He's a chiropractor. | ||
| Has he? | ||
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We haven't talked about it. | |
| We've talked about that a lot. | ||
| I was actually just going to ask you what a chiropractor does. | ||
| What's a chiropractor, Dan? | ||
| They fold portals. | ||
| Dan, could you explain to our audience what a chiropractor... | ||
| No. | ||
| Has he ever actually outlined what prosperity means to him? | ||
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| Not really. | ||
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Free market. | |
| So he just keeps saying, I want prosperity. | ||
| What does that actually look like? | ||
| I mean, I think it's... | ||
| You know how whenever Trump says America first, it means whatever it means to you. | ||
| It's just a nice sort of catchphrase. | ||
| That's what he's talking about. | ||
| You know, I hear it and I guess what he means is people are making a lot of money. | ||
| Yeah, is that... | ||
| I guess. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Like, how does that work? | ||
| That would be like the textbook definition, right? | ||
| I suppose. | ||
| Plenty? | ||
| People having plenty? | ||
| So he wants communism? | ||
| No, he certainly doesn't. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So prosperity for all. | ||
| Well, no, he's not saying that. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He's saying prosperity. | ||
| He wants prosperity. | ||
| He doesn't want to... | ||
| Everybody to have prosperity. | ||
| No, because then that's not real. | ||
| Because then you don't have a real free market. | ||
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| A free market lives on cannibalizing its poor. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Wait, what's your point? | ||
| I was just asking whether or not he's ever described his prosperity. | ||
| In my experience, no. | ||
| I just want prosperity. | ||
| I think it's a mirror. | ||
| I think it's just a nice word that you get to bring your baggage to. | ||
| And assume whatever positive things. | ||
| And then you're like, oh, Alex wants that. | ||
| That thing that I think is great. | ||
| It's like, you know, people talking about blessings. | ||
| I want blessings upon everybody. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| That's a bad example, but... | ||
| Dan, what's your own personal prosperity? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'd like a few more listeners. | ||
| Aim low, Dan. | ||
| Aim low. | ||
| That's a good way to go. | ||
| So speaking of aiming low, Alex with Dr. Group, they sit down and they get down to business. | ||
| Do they sing that song from Mulan? | ||
| They do not, because Mike Pence told them not to. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Pence is afraid of getting down to business. | ||
| Yeah, so Alex starts this clip by reading a review of one of his products. | ||
| Did they send me daughters? | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| When I ask for sons. | ||
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Stop it! | |
| Alex starts by reading a review. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then he accidentally reveals a negative side effect of his medications. | ||
| Wait, wait. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| And to say, I just feel better in general. | ||
| An overall sense of improved well-being. | ||
| So I started taking this at the beginning of August. | ||
| I will be reordering. | ||
| So thank you for your support. | ||
| And thank you for checking that out. | ||
| And again, folks, none of us are perfect. | ||
| It's a process. | ||
| I've gone from job of the hut levels. | ||
| Five years ago to, you know, losing almost 70 pounds and having a lot more energy, a lot healthier skin. | ||
| My mind works a lot better. | ||
| Makes my temper worse. | ||
| It seems to me like when I'm kind of in a haze, I'm not that mean. | ||
| But all the products at InfoWars Life are just amazing and they help fund our operation. | ||
| I would argue, if I were a therapist analyzing Alex Jones, that's not good. | ||
| I would say, after his bigotry, his temper is his worst problem. | ||
| I would say that that might actually feed into a lot of his bigotry. | ||
| His inability to control his anger and his temper and his fear, those sorts of impulses, I think, are a really huge part of it. | ||
| So maybe you should stop taking super female vitality. | ||
| Because we know he doesn't take Superman. | ||
| No, well, that would be too weird. | ||
| So, Jordan. | ||
| This goes on forever. | ||
| This interview with Dr. Group. | ||
| There's nothing more homosexual than drinking another man's vitality, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's like wearing a man on your shirt, which also Alex Jones says you shouldn't do unless you're a little bit light in the loafers. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| So, this goes on for a long time. | ||
| The Dr. Group interview trying to push that product real hard. | ||
| Which, again, feeds into my narrative that I believe is the truth, that he is trying to make money before the fiscal year ends. | ||
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Yeah, taxes. | |
| I want to say that when we did that last episode, I made it clear, or I was just mentioning taxes. | ||
| I should have been more clear. | ||
| There's a lot of reasons to try and boost your numbers before the end of the fiscal year. | ||
| One of them is if you have loans. | ||
| Or liens, those sorts of things. | ||
| If your credit limit is contingent on how much you bring in by the end of the fiscal year, he could be in a situation where the bank won't give him any money unless he gets to X amount of dollars. | ||
| There's a lot of bad financial reasons. | ||
| If your company is doing well, you don't really need to panic at the end of the fiscal year. | ||
| You only really need to do that if you're cooking books or you're in trouble. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And since we know he doesn't have any real books anywhere. | ||
| I don't think he does. | ||
| He can't cook shit. | ||
| No. | ||
| He has a couple books written by globalists that he hasn't read, but beyond that. | ||
| So I wanted to just make that clarification that it might not totally be taxes. | ||
| It could be some other credit issue or something like that. | ||
| But whatever it is, it's something financial at the end of the fiscal year. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they do that. | ||
| They try and push product. | ||
| But before this, I forgot to mention that there had been a shooting of a police officer in Fox Lake, Illinois. | ||
| Suburb of Chicago. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| Yeah, because this was only two years ago. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| Let me feel joy at remembering something. | ||
| Let me ask you if you remember. | ||
| I have a very poor memory. | ||
| Please let me enjoy this. | ||
| Let me ask if you remember this. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Do you remember when Alex Jones sent Joe Biggs out to Fox Lake? | ||
| I do not remember that. | ||
| So Joe Biggs comes out and he's shooting some remotes. | ||
| And they're atrocious. | ||
| They really don't have a good camera system at this point. | ||
| So, like, he's on his cell phone and shit. | ||
| It's pretty bad. | ||
| But he's giving an interview, and there's true comedy. | ||
| And him being like, I don't know, I'm down here, we're just gonna be hunting down leads, so if anybody knows anything, just let us know. | ||
| I'm hanging out at the Starbucks. | ||
| I don't know if anybody... | ||
| Because there's a manhunt. | ||
| Because the guy was on the loose for a bit. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Afterwards, they didn't catch him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Joe Biggs is like, you know, just call in to Infowars Tips. | ||
| Let us know. | ||
| I'll go check things out. | ||
| It's like, you're not a cop. | ||
| This is not... | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| So Joe Biggs is there. | ||
| Boring interview. | ||
| But he will be making a guest appearance on the September 3rd show. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Which we are going to get to now. | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| Is in a weird headspace. | ||
| Look, that's just implied. | ||
| He's always in a weird headspace. | ||
| We're talking about which type of weird headspace we're dealing with. | ||
| Today's episode, September 3rd, is incredibly fucked up. | ||
| Never forget. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| He does some stuff that is uncautionable. | ||
| He says some incredibly offensive things. | ||
| And then the way the show ends is unpredictable. | ||
| It ends... | ||
| In one of the most wild flame-outs I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| So it's going to be really bad. | ||
| He's going to say a couple things that are going to make you scream. | ||
| But just know, at the end of it, he doesn't feel great. | ||
| Wait, even he doesn't feel great? | ||
| It's about other things, but he doesn't feel great. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| At least he suffers. | ||
| Yeah, he starts the show off talking about how he's not into aliens, but... | ||
| I walk around and see the general public. | ||
| They're like little kids. | ||
| Their eyes are just kind of open. | ||
| In a trance state, just putting on fronts of how they're tough, how they're cool, how they're smart, how they've got money. | ||
| All of it's just like reef with bright colors showing off to each other. | ||
| I'm not a stupid reef fish. | ||
| I'm not a parrot either to repeat things. | ||
| I can see clearly what's happening to us and it's nightmare. | ||
| That's a very poor... | ||
| Poorly constructed sentence. | ||
| It's just crazy town. | ||
| And people don't even know they're living in the beginning of a total dystopia. | ||
| They have no idea. | ||
| It's all scientifically planned. | ||
| We're starting to get it. | ||
| I've looked at it closely. | ||
| It's very alien. | ||
| And I have no proof of aliens. | ||
| I don't get into UFOs. | ||
| But the more I research this and look at it, this is not of this world. | ||
| I'm a Christian. | ||
| It's the devil. | ||
| That's all I can handle. | ||
| It's the devil. | ||
| I'm not into aliens, but this is the devil. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I love that that's- It's not aliens, idiot. | ||
| It's the devil. | ||
| I like that that's his line of rationality, is like, hey, look, it's not this thing that doesn't exist. | ||
| It's this other thing that very doesn't exist. | ||
| Aliens are crazy. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Also, my mom told me never to get into a UFO with a stranger. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| That's just a very smart idea. | ||
| Whenever you get into, like, a UFO, always check the plates. | ||
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Right. | |
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Make sure it's your Uber. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you're going to get into a Planet Skimmer, you know, you want to make sure that you ordered a Planet Skimmer. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Not like a, you know, galaxy-spanning, all right, I'm about. | ||
|
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I'm out. | |
| You guessed? | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So I told you Joe Biggs was going to come back on the third, and he's back already. | ||
| It turns out that maybe they did get some tips in the InfoWars tip line that weren't good. | ||
| And it's also possible... | ||
| Who could have guessed? | ||
| It's also possible that someone gave the police a bad tip. | ||
| I'm not saying that was related to Alex Jones or InfoWars at all, but somebody saw something, reported it, the police acted on it, they jumped. | ||
| And it turned out it was not the suspect in the shooting of the police. | ||
| Joe Biggs is furious about this bad tip. | ||
| So he complains about it a bit. | ||
| And then Alex Jones says some of the worst shit I think I've ever heard. | ||
| And you're going to have to put your mic down. | ||
| I'm not scared to go out there. | ||
|
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So we're out there running around looking for this because we thought this was a credible threat. | |
| And the next thing you know, you start getting... | ||
| People are calling in saying, hey, there's suspicious people walking through our yards, this and that. | ||
| So next thing you know, there was this wild goose chase going on all night until about 2, 3 o 'clock in the morning. | ||
| And it was all because a lady lied because she wanted attention. | ||
| She was a nanny and she was looking for attention from a family that she was working for. | ||
| And essentially threw the entire thing away now because of a lie. | ||
| Well, she's going to get attention now. | ||
| I mean, I've never seen one of these cross burnings. | ||
| In modern times where it wasn't people doing it for attention. | ||
| I mean, there's been some real Nazi murders and Klan murders, but not really cross burnings in yards. | ||
| Every Jewish sinner we've seen, without exception, with the swastikas put on it, has been fake. | ||
| Every time a dorm gets a swastika put on it, it's been fake. | ||
| I mean, it's almost always, I think there's been a few real ones total, it's almost always a false flag. | ||
| And same way, women that claim three black guys rape them. | ||
| You know, carve stuff on their face, turns out that's a lie. | ||
| Or a black lady claims white people raped them, that's a lie. | ||
| There is a penchant in criminology, just like men commit most murders, women commit most of the making stuff up to get attention. | ||
| It's just bizarre. | ||
| They'll claim they're raped all the time. | ||
| And that's why so many times the police don't believe a woman when she claims that they've been raped if there isn't hardcore evidence, because so many women lie and say they've been raped. | ||
| I mean, I just don't get the psychology. | ||
| ... | ||
| Alex. | ||
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So a couple things. | |
| The first thing is that he uses specific instances like the Duke La Crosse situation and that one situation where a lady did lie about getting cut up and what have you. | ||
| Turned out she did do it to herself. | ||
| There are a couple instances of that, but they are the vast minority of situations. | ||
| He uses those two specific situations, then tries to generalize them to pretend that most women are lying about... | ||
| The fact that you have to look so hard to find these situations. | ||
| The fact that it's so very rare. | ||
| That it's never, ever reported in the news that anytime somebody lies about being raped, it is huge for one reason. | ||
| Because it never happens. | ||
| They're incredibly publicized things. | ||
| Yeah, because it never happens. | ||
| Because that's not a real argument. | ||
| Why do so many women lie about being raped? | ||
| Is the thing that you say before I explode? | ||
| I told you. | ||
| I told you. | ||
| This is a real fucking thing. | ||
| This is a real fucking thing. | ||
| Whenever the Cosby allegations first started coming out, whenever there was 10 women instead of that goddamn 80 women that he raped or whatever, whenever that happened, I had to go home to Thanksgiving with my family, wherein my little sister and my mom both said, you know... | ||
| Maybe we'd believe these ladies if so many women didn't lie about being raped. | ||
| And I was going to burn their house down. | ||
| I thought it would be a good idea. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, I didn't because the giant cross-burning didn't go well the last time. | ||
| Right, your fake big cross-burning. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Jesus, fuck. | ||
| Fake. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Every hate crime. | ||
| Every hate crime. | ||
| Every rape. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Perpetrated on somebody poor, on somebody oppressed, is all bullshit. | ||
| It's all globalist bullshit. | ||
| It's all lies, but anytime, anytime something even small happens to a white dude, it's evidence of race war! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's race war! | ||
| You hit the nail on the head, my friend. | ||
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God damn it! | |
| Yep. | ||
| And one of his big pieces of evidence that he's been using is a blog talk radio show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Women should kill 40% of all men today. | ||
| When we make the argument... | ||
| And if I'm one of them, at least I don't have to deal with Trump anymore. | ||
| When we make the argument that Alex Jones, his primary objective is white Christian male identity, this is firm evidence of it. | ||
| The way he treats things, the way he deals with saying some things are fake and some things aren't... | ||
| And that's your alt-light. | ||
| That's your alt-light, guys. | ||
| Guys, anytime you hear somebody say alt-light, remember, they're fine with rape. | ||
| And when you guys make Bon Iver memes, remember that this guy is way worse than your... | ||
| This is monstrous. | ||
| This is fucking horrific. | ||
| Yeah, he's a horrible, horrible person who's leading thousands of people into essentially a race cult. | ||
| So, congratulations on trying to make him palatable and funny. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| That was the worst of it. | ||
| Now we get to go on. | ||
| I am... | ||
| Dan, I'm so mad at you. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| Maybe this will make you feel better. | ||
| Remember when I said if all of our audience clapped their hands, you would feel better? | ||
| Never clap. | ||
| Nobody who listens to... | ||
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I'd like to quote... | |
| No policy won't clap right now! | ||
| I'd like to quote Jeb Bush. | ||
| Please clap. | ||
| This next clip will get you right out of that funk. | ||
| I mean, it won't, because Alex is still a monster. | ||
| But... | ||
| He gets a call from a guy who asks him about his car, and he proceeds to talk about his car for about ten minutes. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Here is a selection of the end of it, and I want you to hear, like, just... | ||
| I'm going to give you a sign, and that means absolutely don't talk over this, because the end of it is fucking bananas. | ||
| All right, I'll just put the mic down. | ||
| No, you don't have to. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| You're playing with fire, Dad. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So the Hellcats were an investment because... | ||
| It basically doubled in value right after I bought it. | ||
| You can buy them for like $63,000. | ||
| I had offers for them to buy it a week after I bought it for $120,000. | ||
| They wanted to buy it back because they have to legally sell it for the price listed by Dodge or they won't get any more. | ||
| Well, all of Austin only got like three. | ||
| I hardly ever see them. | ||
| And so now they're coming out with more and they're going to be a lot more. | ||
| But it's just a piece of Americana. | ||
| I kind of treated myself. | ||
| But I think I might actually sell it because God laid it on my heart that it's not really prudent for somebody like me who's got so much riding on what I'm doing, people counting on me to put myself in something like that. | ||
| But I tell you... | ||
| So I just want to take a break there to say, I mean, two years later he's saying the exact same thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's playing the... | ||
| Oh, I gotta be humble. | ||
| I should sell it. | ||
| And that's a perfect way to get the humble points without actually making an action. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that's kind of his M.O. So many people are relying on me, Alex Jones. | ||
| I need to get rid of this Hellcat. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I just need to. | ||
| I just, you know, it's like when Jesus kicked the money changers out of the church. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then he rode off in a Hellcat. | ||
| That's Americana. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But the other thing I want to point out is that Alex is so desperately doing an hour and a half infomercial on yesterday's show, doing a million dollar marathon a week and a half later, and he's talking about just randomly buying a sports car. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, there is a disconnect between his personal life and the life of the business. | ||
| He clearly isn't suffering at all for his art or suffering at all for the cause. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Even further. | ||
| Like most rich people, anytime there's layoffs, well, like when they laid off 100 copy editors in the New York Times, at no point in time did any of the CEOs or high-level managers say, hey, we'll take a pay cut and we'll keep 30 more on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| At the very least, that would give the appearance of you guys give a shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I put 40 hours a week at least into this podcast and I eat ramen, you sons of bitches. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| And when I say you sons of bitches, I mean Alex, specifically. | ||
| And the New York Times! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Not the copy editors. | ||
|
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No. | |
| Or the journalists. | ||
| So Alex wants to talk more about this. | ||
| Now, the columnists can all go fuck themselves. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Fuck you, David Brooks. | ||
| Also, Alex can fuck himself for how much longer he talks about his car. | ||
| What I really love about it? | ||
| I love this whole plug about that car. | ||
| I love it like a woman. | ||
| The problem is that it's absolutely me. | ||
| It doesn't look like anything. | ||
| And it's got, you know, big back seat, put the kids in there. | ||
| I don't like super fancy standout stuff. | ||
| Like, I love Ferraris, but if I even had the money, I wouldn't spend it on that. | ||
| But it's just too flashy. | ||
| So the understated stealth nature of it, and the fact that it's 780 horsepower, because they're supposed to be 707. | ||
| The truth is, they tested the drivetrain. | ||
| And they wanted to get it under some government standards. | ||
| It's really 780-something horsepower, according to Car and Driver and others. | ||
| So you're sitting in a 780-horsepower car. | ||
| It's just sexy. | ||
| And it's even sexier because it's more than meets the eye. | ||
| And I really like that. | ||
| I really like that it isn't standing out. | ||
| Does it also transport? | ||
| I've been on the highway. | ||
| One time I was on 37. Didn't have the kids with me. | ||
| And I was coming back from the beach. | ||
| Kids were with my parents. | ||
| Right when I got it, it had about a thousand miles on it. | ||
| So I was one of the first to get them because I put the order in like a year before they came out. | ||
| Why is this on the show? | ||
| So I waited. | ||
| And this guy pulls up one of these Fast and Furious littler cars. | ||
| You hate Fast and Furious. | ||
| Wanted to race me. | ||
| And I shouldn't have done it, but it was ridiculous. | ||
| And I'd let him get back up to me, and then I'd just, like, fly down the road. | ||
| So, all right, now I'm not in a bad mood anymore. | ||
| You just did it wild. | ||
| Stay there. | ||
| I'm going to come back to you. | ||
| I've gone from being depressed and upset and angry to, like... | ||
| Feeling like I need to fire up a cigarette. | ||
| You know what you do when you fire a cigarette up in the old movies, you know? | ||
| It's kind of like that feeling. | ||
| Satisfied. | ||
| I just thank God for all his great creations. | ||
| What the fuck was that? | ||
| He just said he was going to, like, he was implying that he was lighting up a smoke after sex, right? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| That's exactly what he was doing. | ||
| In the old movies when you're satisfied. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And then, because he realizes, what have I just said? | ||
| He's like, I'd just like to thank God for all his great creations. | ||
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He's just talked about his car for ten minutes on his show! | |
| Oh my god, I just fucked this Hellcat. | ||
| And it's a car. | ||
| It's a car. | ||
| Thank you, Jesus. | ||
| Maybe if he just had a car radio show? | ||
| Click and Clack and Alex Jones. | ||
| We'd be so much better off as a country. | ||
| Possibly. | ||
| Or if he was literate and he could just become a YA author or something like that. | ||
| He could just create a dystopian universe in fiction like he already has. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I fucking... | ||
| There's those moments of unintentional comedy, the pivoting to, I'd like to thank God for all his great creations, right as he's going out to break. | ||
| There's moments like that that are like, that's fucking hilarious. | ||
| He didn't mean that to be funny. | ||
| He was trying to save it, because he's like, I just said I fucked a car. | ||
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He's so stupid. | |
| I shouldn't have done it, but this guy was trying to... | ||
| I guarantee that guy was not trying to race him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or the story never happened. | ||
| I'm gonna go with the latter. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't think it ever happened. | ||
| Also, I screamed over it, but I'd like to point out that, Alex, you can fuck yourself for not liking Fast and Furious and then referencing it. | ||
| I know, Dan, this is... | ||
| He might have liked the first ones, though, because those were... | ||
| Those ones were more street racing. | ||
| Maybe we'd be better off if we had a car podcast. | ||
| Just a Fast and Furious podcast? | ||
| Hey, welcome back to the Paul Walker Report. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no! | ||
| I love Paul Walker. | ||
| Paul Joseph Walker Report? | ||
| Rest in peace. | ||
| So, you heard there, at the end of that, Alex Jones saying, I was in a really bad mood, which we've heard. | ||
| He's been in a bad mood for like two days now. | ||
| Race war. | ||
| He's in a terrible mood. | ||
| Bummed about the race war. | ||
| Thank God this guy calls in, I can talk about my car for ten minutes, and now I feel great. | ||
| I'm in a great mood. | ||
| This next clip... | ||
| Hates race war, loves drag race. | ||
| This next clip is six minutes later. | ||
| Six minutes later. | ||
| He's gonna talk about his car, isn't he? | ||
| Six minutes later. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| I'm not doing this for theatrics. | ||
| I'm not doing this to... | ||
| I love doing this radio show, and I just really enjoy it, and I love fighting tyranny. | ||
| I love covering issues, but some days, it doesn't happen very often, I get in here and I look at the girls from the Gardasil shot having convulsions. | ||
| All right, I don't like this. | ||
| And at a certain point, I can't be on air. | ||
| In fact, I just told them during the break, Go get Rob Dew. | ||
| He does a great job. | ||
| He can interview this lawyer about the police and everything that's happening in studio. | ||
| And then they can do a whole fourth hour. | ||
| If they don't, they don't have to do it today. | ||
| I just can't be here. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I think it's really just gotten to that point where the evil is so over the top. | ||
| I just need to go pray for a few hours. | ||
| And I just need to really... | ||
| Get my head screwed on straight, because every indicator is something big's about to happen. | ||
| So, Alex Jones, six minutes earlier, is like, I'm in a great mood now. | ||
| He's a rapid cycler. | ||
| He is, like, on top of the world, fucking talking about his car. | ||
| Got a Hellcat, fucked my car. | ||
| Now, look, every time I look at these ladies on Gardasil having a convulsion. | ||
| Right. | ||
| After I finish jerking off, I just feel terrible. | ||
| It's in that refractory period, you don't want to scream anymore. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| You're like, oh, I can't handle this. | ||
| How am I supposed to be a propagandist? | ||
| I just shot my wad. | ||
| So, Alex is also lying, because he doesn't leave. | ||
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Where is Rob Dew hanging out? | |
| If he has to tell his staff, like, go get me, Rob Dew. | ||
| He's in the news office. | ||
| The Infowars studio is a massive compound. | ||
| There's a bunch of offices, and all of them have a gun safe in them. | ||
| Now I'm very unhappy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, no, it's huge. | ||
| Actually, now I think that would be a fun little thing for most office buildings to have. | ||
| There's videos online you can find of Alex giving a tour of his studio, and it's a massive, massive building. | ||
| To the point where it's absurd considering the overhead. | ||
| Like, the idea of how much renting out this warehouse or even buying it would be, even if you bought it, the mortgage and the utilities would be outstandingly high expenses. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| That's why he's against government control, because property taxes... | ||
| Regulations! | ||
| ...must be really high on his warehouse. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| But he doesn't leave, at least not for the next half hour or so. | ||
| And in the next half hour, he gets a caller that makes him wish he had left. | ||
| I know that I was making a pretty big point of this race war narrative and the fact that Alex is conflating a blog talk radio host with no listeners and Louis Farrakhan. | ||
| And I did so because, first of all, it's manipulative and wrong. | ||
| And secondly... | ||
| Because it leads up to this caller, who is great. | ||
| Nathaniel in South Carolina, you're on the air. | ||
| Yeah, at the top of the hour, you asked a question that I'm perplexed with myself. | ||
| It's kind of a ridiculous question. | ||
| You asked, how do they get away with it? | ||
| How do they think they're going to get away with it? | ||
| George Bush murdered a million Muslims. | ||
| He and Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz. | ||
| Get him, Nathaniel. | ||
| Get him, Nathaniel. | ||
| Get him, Nathaniel. | ||
| If you play what he said, what he said is absolutely on point. | ||
| He said if we are murdered, and you can probably tell I'm a black guy, if we are murdered and we have no reject from the federal government, we should stalk and hunt and kill those who kill fucks. | ||
| Now you have attempted to take what he said. | ||
| No, but then that was integrated in clearly. | ||
| At police in general, not at the actual... | ||
| Listen, I've said I agree with a lot of stuff Louis Farrakhan says. | ||
| Louis Farrakhan said he agreed with my 1776 comment. | ||
| There's some stuff I disagree with. | ||
| I think that rhetoric, from my perspective, I disagree with your perspective. | ||
| I don't think he's calling for as much as the blog talk radio guy saying go out and kill cops, clearly. | ||
| But, I mean, I took that as, just in general, they are white, they are cops, and I agree with... | ||
| So, here we go. | ||
| First point I'm going to make is, Nathaniel is awesome. | ||
| He will end up saying a couple things that I disagree with. | ||
| He spits fire. | ||
| But by and large, I'm on board with him. | ||
| But Alex can't handle it, can't take it, has to interrupt and be like, no, no, no. | ||
| What Louis Farrakhan was saying, I took it to mean all white people. | ||
| And that's you, Alex. | ||
| That's what you're bringing to the table. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because that's what you're afraid of. | ||
| I could hear Louis Farrakhan say that, and I don't think I'm going to be targeted. | ||
| I don't kill black people. | ||
| Don't look at me like that. | ||
| I get what Louis Farrakhan is saying, and I'm not here to say that everything Louis Farrakhan says is sensible or right, but in this instance, what he said makes perfect sense. | ||
| And so... | ||
| Really, the conversation, what it needs to be, and unfortunately, Nathaniel doesn't really get into this, but what it needs to be is, Alex, that's you. | ||
| You're bringing this to the clip. | ||
| It's not dealing with the source material. | ||
| It's bringing something to the source material. | ||
| But he does make some other great points. | ||
| Well, the thing that I'm hearing just in Alex's tone is, listen to how much more deferential he is to Nathaniel. | ||
| He's very conciliatory in his tone of voice. | ||
| But also condescending. | ||
| Well, that's absolutely true as well. | ||
| I agree there. | ||
| He's conciliatory because I think he senses, this guy knows stuff, and if I poke him, he's going to destroy me. | ||
| If I disagree with him forcefully, and not in just a patronizing way that a lot of white people treat black people, if I don't just use that soft sort of push, he's going to come back at me. | ||
| And Alex knows that full well. | ||
| He has his guard up quite a bit. | ||
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Where are we on Reagan bringing tons of cocaine into the black community? | |
| I don't want to talk about it. | ||
| I think I agree. | ||
| I think it's Reagan. | ||
| You ever listen to Freeway Rick Ross talk? | ||
| No. | ||
| He's a guy who... | ||
| I haven't done enough research into him to know for sure if I believe him or if I don't, but his story is basically that he was getting cocaine and crack from the government. | ||
| And selling it to the black community. | ||
| Like, he was the funnel through which crack came in. | ||
| And I'm not totally opposed to that being possible. | ||
| It seems like it's possible. | ||
| But I don't know. | ||
| If you're going to do the Iran-Contra thing, you might as well introduce crack to the black community. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's in the realm. | ||
| It's a one-to-one. | ||
| It's in the realm of the conspiracies that I think are possible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And maybe even likely. | ||
| Did Reagan kill JFK? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There's a bunch of globalists that are above the law, and I've made films about Lyndon Johnson and the Bushes and the cocaine drugs being brought in. | ||
| I don't think Reagan knew about that, but George Bush Sr. was running it. | ||
| So I've exposed that, sir, and I totally agree with you. | ||
| But the thing is, I just attack all the stuff that I see as corrupt, and I don't think Louis Farrakhan would be able to get away with that unless he's either intimidated the government, which may be. | ||
| Or whether he's been given a green light by Obama. | ||
| I mean, I played the clip whenever he said that Obama basically murdered Gaddafi and it was wrong. | ||
| That was absolutely true. | ||
| So, I just call it like I see it. | ||
| You may disagree with me. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| I mean, either Louis Farrakhan is just really angry and wants to go and have a war, which I can get that, or he's with the globalists. | ||
| And I don't know which one it is. | ||
| What do you think it is? | ||
| You can't take what he says out of context. | ||
| You constantly complain about MSNBC, CNN, taking things you say out of context. | ||
| What he said in context is absolutely correct. | ||
| And I promise you, if some cop pulled your wife over and put a gun to her head and blew her head off, and you had no redress from the Department of Justice, the federal government, and anybody else, you would take Madison to your own hands also. | ||
| Yeah, well, I would take my matters into my own hands. | ||
| I would take matters into my own hands against the individual. | ||
| I wouldn't do it with a cop pumping gas. | ||
| That's exactly what he said. | ||
| He said, kill those who kill us. | ||
| That is specific. | ||
| You go after the individual that you are. | ||
| Listen, I was saying it in the context that he should condemn the Black Lives Matter chant of give the pigs wings and all that stuff. | ||
| He should condemn people shooting innocent cops in the back of the head and then say specifically that the people getting away with murder need to get in trouble. | ||
| So there he goes again. | ||
| He always talks about... | ||
| Change the subject. | ||
| And he always uses composition fallacies and the responsibility of individuals is upon the group that they're in, unless they're white people, and then it's just a crazy lone wolf kind of guy. | ||
| Or a false flag. | ||
| Or it's a false flag. | ||
| It could be a false flag. | ||
| But yeah, Louis Farrakhan, if he wants to be above board, prove that he doesn't want a war and isn't part of the globalists. | ||
| He just has to say everything I want him to say. | ||
| He has to condemn everything that I'm against of and really... | ||
| I'm afraid of because my white identity is incredibly fragile. | ||
| So let's get back to this caller who is, at this point, still pretty awesome. | ||
| Like I said, the cops shooting the Hispanic for no reason in San Antonio better get in trouble. | ||
| Or the white cops shooting the black guy only getting two years. | ||
| That was a travesty of justice. | ||
| I agree with you on a lot of those points. | ||
| But in the main debate, the way Farrakhan's been taken for a month, and once he said that, the change in reaction began. | ||
| So I can see your point, and I think it's fair. | ||
| I think it's fair from my perspective. | ||
| I'm not being deceitful or twisting. | ||
| Here's the clip itself. | ||
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So if the federal government will not intercede in our affairs, then we must rise up and kill those who kill us. | |
| Stalk them and kill them and let them feel. | ||
| The pain! | ||
| Okay, that's enough. | ||
| We already played it twice yesterday. | ||
| I'll let you have another word, sir, but I just want to finish up with this since you're articulate and made some decent points. | ||
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God damn it! | |
| I see 30% of what you're saying. | ||
| I could have said it even better. | ||
| That's the part of this. | ||
| I'm just exhausted and sick of it. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| At a fundamental level, hearing white people are bad, white people are going to pay, that does intimidate me. | ||
| It makes me upset. | ||
| And then I know what weak-minded people are going to do. | ||
| They're going to do some bad things. | ||
| So I'm very, very sad. | ||
| I'm very, very nauseated. | ||
| Let's go to a pizza place. | ||
| He's following the narrative, and that's why I said he might be in with the feds, of where Al Sharpton said the goal is to get the feds to come in and federalize police. | ||
| Remember that clip two months ago? | ||
| When the feds themselves have been taken over by the globalists, and the feds are the ones that killed the millions of Muslims that I was against. | ||
| Also, these talks... | ||
| Hide, hide behind three layers of bullshit. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And then he's against it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Then he's against it. | ||
| Yeah, and that Al Sharpton clip he's talking about is taking wildly out of context. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And it's the feds funding the Wahhabiists right now to kill the non-radical Muslims. | ||
| Yada, yada, yada. | ||
| So that's what's going on. | ||
| And he's saying feds better come in and do something about this or we're going to go after the people. | ||
| He's talking about locals. | ||
| And the locals are a patchwork, good departments, bad departments, mediocre departments, some good, some bad. | ||
| And it's just, I mean, I disagree with you fundamentally about the overall thing he's saying. | ||
| I can see your perspective, but if you're honest, I think you can see my perspective. | ||
| But go ahead. | ||
| You got 60 seconds. | ||
| This is the problem, okay? | ||
| Since the 1970s, okay? | ||
| Cold Cush Crew, Africa Bambada. | ||
| There are songs from the 70s, rap songs, about cops murdering black people, okay? | ||
| In the movie The Departed, Leonardo DiCaprio and Mark Warburg talk about how Irish policemen join the force so they can split a nigga's head open. | ||
| This is not our imagination. | ||
| You may have been living under tyranny when it comes to police for the last 10, 15 years. | ||
| We've been living under it for decades, and we're sick of it. | ||
| My son, this past summer, he's 17 years old. | ||
| We live in a decent middle-class neighborhood. | ||
| He walks home from the poor with his friends eight times. | ||
| He's been approached by the police this summer. | ||
| Eight different times. | ||
| No, I hear you. | ||
| It's harassment, and it's because... | ||
| And it's because... | ||
| Of a lot of different factors, old customs, racism, things like that, but also movements, the gangster hip-hop culture pushed by MTV, the whole cop-killing narrative then gets stereotyped and projected onto your son, which is going to get worse. | ||
| I'm saying the cold-blooded social engineers, sir, are manipulating us all against each other. | ||
| I'll tell you what I'm going to do. | ||
| Rob Deuce coming up. | ||
| I've got to check out of here. | ||
| This is just... | ||
| Too depressing. | ||
| And I do this every once in a while. | ||
| I'm checking out of here. | ||
| We're going to hold you over after this John Bound report. | ||
| And then Rob Dew will come back in that first five-minute segment and let you finish up. | ||
| Then we've got a guest coming in. | ||
| And I'm going to go out. | ||
| I didn't eat breakfast this morning. | ||
| I also got low blood sugar. | ||
| So that's part of what happens here. | ||
| So I've got to eat. | ||
| And I've got to take care of this issue. | ||
| But let's go to John Bound's report. | ||
| That's what it sounds like when you lose an argument really hard. | ||
| That is... | ||
| That's embarrassing. | ||
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Goddamn. | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| He has nothing. | ||
| He has so much nothing. | ||
| My son has been harassed eight times this year coming back from the pool with his friends. | ||
| Un-fucking-believable. | ||
| Because we're black and we live in a decent neighborhood. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, that's probably your son's fault because of... | ||
| It's because of hip-hop. | ||
| It's probably because of the globalists making your son like hip-hop. | ||
| There's always a white rationalization for why white people are so racist. | ||
| And it's always black people's fault. | ||
| No, but what's weird is Alex allows tribalism, racism to be a potential piece of it, but then glances past and he's like, well, really? | ||
| It's more about stereotyping based on hip-hop culture that you guys buy into. | ||
| It's always hip-hop. | ||
| It's always fucking civil rights. | ||
| You're all Black Panthers. | ||
| It's always Black Lives Matter is everybody else. | ||
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All Black Lives Matter are this blog talk radio show guy. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| You're always judged by these guys. | ||
| And that's why it's okay for white people to do what they do. | ||
| That's what he is saying. | ||
| That's what they always say. | ||
| It's been like that since the goddamn... | ||
| It's been like that since black people were fucking slaves. | ||
| How many more years are we going to have to put up with this shit? | ||
| Not me personally, but... | ||
| I mean, it affects me, too. | ||
| It hurts everybody. | ||
| It hurts everybody. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's un-fucking-believable. | ||
| It also hurts Alex because his tummy hurts and he's got to go eat something. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Which is the fakest thing in the world. | ||
| Oh, my blood sugar's low and I'm a racist. | ||
| He sounds like me trying to get out of class. | ||
| That's the level of lie. | ||
| That's like... | ||
| He's in a bad mood that day. | ||
| And so that clip earlier where he's like, I gotta go pray. | ||
| That is like me telling my boss at like 11 that I don't feel great and I might need to leave. | ||
| That's laying the groundwork that in case I want to leave later, I can. | ||
| And here he just got schooled by a caller who has... | ||
| Points and personal experience that Alex does not have a good argument for. | ||
| So as he's making these points, puts the hold button on, loses the argument, pretends he didn't, and I get what I'm doing here. | ||
| So then Alex takes the next day off. | ||
| He takes Friday off. | ||
| Takes a long weekend. | ||
| That's a good idea. | ||
| I don't think that he... | ||
| I don't think he had to leave. | ||
| I don't think he had low blood sugar. | ||
| I think he had a plane to catch. | ||
| And he didn't need to deal with this dude's bullshit for right now. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I don't think he would be able to. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| I think any longer of a conversation, Alex Jones would be exposed a little bit. | ||
| More so than he already was. | ||
| I think a lot of his listeners would probably just be like, yeah, Alex is right. | ||
| This guy does like hip-hop. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| So, I think that Alex Jones might have gone to take a meeting. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| I think that there's some sort of business he's doing behind the scenes. | ||
| And that's why he's gone for the end of the Thursday show, he's gone for Friday, comes back Sunday. | ||
| That's my pitch. | ||
| I don't know that to be true exactly, but that's what I feel like. | ||
| Either that or he just took a vacation. | ||
| That's entirely... | ||
| I would say that's more reasonable. | ||
| Either way, it's pretty wild. | ||
| Because he takes a lot of vacations. | ||
| A long weekend. | ||
| He takes a lot of vacations. | ||
| He was just in Europe. | ||
| That's good stuff. | ||
| I do not deny anybody. | ||
| I think we should all take more vacations. | ||
| I think that's a very American thing where it's like, oh, it's bad to take a vacation. | ||
| I support even Alex Jones having labor rights. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| But if he screams about how he eats, sleeps, and breathes this revolution and fighting the globalists. | ||
| It's like, dude, you don't have a competent team back home. | ||
| You can't have Anthony Gucci already host a whole show, which he does on that Friday. | ||
| It's a disaster. | ||
| But, like I said, that's what happens on Friday. | ||
| But the Thursday show that we're going over here, the September 3rd, isn't quite done. | ||
| So they go to break. | ||
| And when they come back, Rob Du is in studio. | ||
| And Rob Du gets to back clean up with this caller. | ||
| Oh, Rob Du, Nathaniel's still on the line? | ||
| They've kept him over. | ||
| Rob Dew has no chance. | ||
| Well, basically what happens is, yeah, Rob Dew just has to let this guy make a whole bunch of points. | ||
| Yeah, as bad as Alex is in this regard, Dew is going to get his shit rocked. | ||
| Yeah, he just does a jig on his face. | ||
| Just a little dance on his face. | ||
| And then Rob Dew loses the argument very ungracefully. | ||
| I mean, he's not angry. | ||
| That's what that term would suggest. | ||
| He just loses it in a very boring fashion. | ||
| As is sort of his style. | ||
| He's a boring man. | ||
| I was listening to this just in my office. | ||
| So boring. | ||
| I'm already bored with you. | ||
| And I think, you know, very justified in why he's angry. | ||
| I just want to say this before I go back to him. | ||
| If you start a shooting war with the police, it's not going to end well on either side. | ||
| And we have to defeat this with the info war using cameras. | ||
| Putting this stuff out and just inching forward. | ||
| It's not going to change overnight, I can tell you that. | ||
| But Nathaniel, go ahead. | ||
| I want to be clear up top. | ||
| Yeah, I'd love to see the InfoWars video on police brutality. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| I think they're really going to help us fight the InfoWar on that. | ||
| I think they're going to do a great job revealing the concentrated oppression that has hit the black community through the fucking police force for all the years. | ||
| They do do videos like that, but it's always about how white people are being oppressed and the police aren't doing anything about it, or white people are also bothered by police. | ||
| Or, hey, this cop shot a white person. | ||
| So it's great. | ||
| It's good stuff. | ||
| But also, the reason I paused it was I wanted to point out that Nathaniel isn't saying we should have a shooting war with the police. | ||
| So Rob Dew, even in setting up going back to the call, is misrepresenting the position of the caller, who's, up to this point, pretty sensible. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So that's not fair. | ||
| Finish with what you were talking about. | ||
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I can't speak for the idiot member of Black Lives Matter that had that obscure blog talk radio show that probably 50 people didn't hear until Alex put it on his airwaves. | |
| And, you know, millions of people hear it, which, you know, I got a question with the motive behind that. | ||
| Get him, Nathaniel. | ||
| probably didn't have 50 listeners. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| I'm not defending that. | ||
| You don't indiscriminately go out and kill anybody. | ||
| What Minister Farrakhan is talking about is... | ||
| That 12-year-old boy in Ohio where the cops roll up and shoot him dead. | ||
| There's no redress. | ||
| There's no way to get justice. | ||
| I absolutely understand taking a weapon and going out and serving justice on that police officer. | ||
| On anybody who would kill somebody unfairly and indiscriminately without them having no redress. | ||
| The family having no redress. | ||
| That's what any man would do. | ||
| My problem is, Alex Jones constantly attacks the mainstream media, and rightfully so, for developing narratives and then running with them, whether it's climate change, gay rights, or whatever they're doing. | ||
| There's the only point I'm going to take issue with him. | ||
| Not great. | ||
| Yeah, but, you know, beggars can't be choosers. | ||
| He's doing a great job. | ||
| I'm still on Nathaniel's side. | ||
| Yeah, except for the climate change is a mainstream media narrative. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| I don't appreciate that, Nathaniel. | ||
| Yeah, but, you know, I still think I could hang out with him. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, we could probably, you know, argue about that. | ||
| Rationally and civilly, as opposed to someone like Alex Jones, who would just be lying all the time. | ||
| Elise Nathaniel seems to have a pretty good head on his shoulders in terms of... | ||
| He's not willfully misleading people. | ||
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No. | |
| anyway. | ||
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The right-wing media has developed a narrative also, and they're running with it, which is that Black Lives Matter is the new Third Reich. | |
| You have some idiot members of that organization talking about murdering people indiscriminately? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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Are they funded by source? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I haven't looked into that. | ||
| assure you it's not an organization of millions of people looking to kill white people indiscriminately. | ||
| Just like if you go to any party rally, the left wing will always record the two or three who talk about the Nick Rose Fuck yeah. | ||
| And I was complaining that all of the Tea Party is painting with that broad brush. | ||
| The same thing here. | ||
| And I didn't even call to defend Black Lives Matter. | ||
| I personally am not concerned with them. | ||
| I'm concerned with taking what Minister Farrakhan said and twisting it and then tying it to what that idiot at Black Lives Matter said. | ||
| They're two completely different things. | ||
| Okay? | ||
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Completely different. | |
| And that's indefensible. | ||
| He can't complain about his words being taken out of context when it comes to the Boston bombing and being deeply racist. | ||
| And then he twists the words of somebody else. | ||
| That's my issue, okay? | ||
| I understand dealing with the police and things of that nature. | ||
| I scared to death for my son. | ||
| Scared to death. | ||
| Nathaniel, I can tell you this. | ||
| That radio talk show that we played, that was not an isolated incident. | ||
| We have video that we shot ourselves of an open carry march. | ||
| I don't think it was the new Black Panthers. | ||
| It was a different group. | ||
| But they were shouting the same things while they were armed. | ||
| I think it was Oink Oink Bang Bang. | ||
| Can we see that video? | ||
| That's what they were saying. | ||
| And there's other talk shows, and those were new Black Panthers that were saying... | ||
| You know, you should go out and it's going to be open season on white people. | ||
| This is not an isolated incident. | ||
| But I hear what you're saying, too. | ||
| I mean, this is why we have to come together and have this open discourse. | ||
| And I thank you for calling. | ||
| I don't think that's open discourse. | ||
| But you see what Rob Dew's tactical style is. | ||
| Oh, we got a video. | ||
| We just, yeah. | ||
| We got a video. | ||
| Let someone talk for a really long time, make some good points. | ||
| And then at the end, like, well, you're wrong. | ||
| I appreciate your perspective, but you're wrong. | ||
| You just don't know. | ||
| Also, I want to say this. | ||
| Two things. | ||
| One, the guy, King Noble, is not necessarily associated with Black Lives Matter. | ||
| The only evidence that we have from the clip about Black Lives Matter is he said that Black Lives Matter didn't get it done. | ||
| It wasn't enough. | ||
| The black community tried to give understanding a chance with Black Lives Matter. | ||
| He was using it as a peaceful... | ||
| Alternative to what he would like. | ||
| That doesn't mean that he's deeply involved with Black Lives Matter at all. | ||
| So Alex Jones is using that as a conflation along with the Farrakhan conflation. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Secondly, I would argue that if a group is protesting and they're chanting oink oink bang bang, it's possible to be interpreted as let's shoot cops. | ||
| It's also possible to interpret it as a complaint that cops keep shooting people. | ||
| It's open to interpretation. | ||
| That's a really good point. | ||
| Yeah, so I don't think that that's necessarily a call to violence. | ||
| I don't think that's certainly very well within the free speech that Alex seems to care a lot about. | ||
| All this stuff... | ||
| And I don't know if you remember, but that's exactly how Looney Tunes ended every cartoon. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Porky Pig came out and went, bitty, bitty, bitty, pork... | ||
| Oh, and going bang, bang. | ||
| That was so close. | ||
| I know! | ||
| I ruined the bit! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I ruined the bit. | ||
| Damn it, Dan. | ||
| So did Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, that brings us to the end of our investigation. | ||
| I think that that was all a pretty embarrassing show on Alex's part. | ||
| You know, you start with him... | ||
| Building up this black narrative, whites and cops are going to be targeted by black people. | ||
| He gets an incredibly intelligent caller who has a lot of facts and a lot of perspective on his side. | ||
| Alex can't handle it and he bails. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Leaves Rob Dew to take the brunt of it. | ||
| To their credit, they did allow him to make all those points on the show. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But I think that's just because I don't know why they did that. | ||
| That is very weird. | ||
| I think it is very much about the race of the caller. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I would say that even they are aware of the optics of Alex Jones and Rob Dew shouting down a black man on their show. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Or the audio optics? | ||
| Audio? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think they get that. | ||
| I think you're probably right. | ||
| I think they are aware of that, which is why... | ||
| Which is why they dismiss him at the end of everything he says. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Never engage with what he actually says. | ||
| Just go, you know what? | ||
| Hey, I get where you're coming from. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Bye, globalists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like that kind of thing. | ||
| Yeah, I think you're probably right. | ||
| His usual tactic of harassing. | ||
| And attacking and interrupting would be too much evidence of his internal positions. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| The other point I'd like to make at the end of this is I think we've heard a couple of things in this episode that are substantially worse than any meme you can possibly make about Alex Jones. | ||
| I think one of the big issues that I always have with these guys is that they're always giving advice. | ||
| Farrakhan shouldn't be saying those things. | ||
| There's a better way to say that. | ||
| Black Lives Matter should be, you know, it doesn't look like they're reaching out to white people. | ||
| It looks like they're doing all of this stuff. | ||
| And it's always this bullshit where it's on Black Lives Matter to reach out to us. | ||
| It's always on them. | ||
| Like, black people haven't been trying it the right way, quote-unquote right way, for... | ||
| All of the time. | ||
| On a smaller scale, and this might be offensive that I'm making this analogy, but I haven't talked to my parents in quite a while, and I blame the fact that they haven't called me for it. | ||
| I should call them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's some analogy there that's, again, not very great. | ||
| I don't think that's a great one, but I get the point that you're making there. | ||
| But one party blaming the other party for not reaching out to the other when not reaching out themselves is ludicrous. | ||
| Especially when you're talking about the context of that. | ||
| When it is 300 fucking years of always trying to reach out, of always being told, this is how you're going to get white people to join you. | ||
| This is how you're going to be able to do it. | ||
| Never actually engaging with it. | ||
| Never saying, you know what, this is wrong. | ||
| Let's fucking listen to you. | ||
| It's always, we want to listen to you, but you're not saying it the right way. | ||
| That's what they fucking do every time. | ||
| And that's the same shit with Farrakhan. | ||
| Like, whether or not Farrakhan is actually... | ||
| And I don't think even Farrakhan is saying that we should go murder people. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think he's saying that even in the context within which he said it. | ||
| No. | ||
| Wherein he said this, this is what should happen. | ||
| He said what should happen is the redress. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He's making the correct point, and these guys are like, well, he's not saying it the right way. | ||
| He's saying it in a violent way, which means we get to attack it. | ||
| Yeah, at worst what he's saying is we may have to present violence to get people to do the thing they should be doing in the first place, which is justice. | ||
| Which is absolutely a winning strategy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As much as everybody wants to say Martin Luther King Jr. did everything by nonviolence, I will be goddamned if there weren't plenty of people who... | ||
| Put out a real, physical, you know, don't fuck with it. | ||
| Don't fuck with us. | ||
| Revolutions need two prongs. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's what the Proud Boys understand. | ||
| That's why they have their normal branch and then their military branch. | ||
| Fucking Proud Boys. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Giant, giant... | ||
| Fuck you, Proud Boys. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Fuck you, Proud Boys. | ||
| So I want to reiterate again, and I'm sorry that I keep harping on this, but... | ||
| These memes are ineffective in battling Alex Jones. | ||
| There's better ways to do it. | ||
| I get what you're saying. | ||
| And I do agree with you in that regard. | ||
| I mean, there has to be a middle ground, though, between a three-hour Dennis Montgomery investigation and a two-minute clip of Bon Iver. | ||
| Strongly disagree. | ||
| Do you think we could put out a clip of Alex Jones, that clip of Alex Jones being drunk? | ||
| On air. | ||
| I put that out on YouTube. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, would that be... | ||
| I guess not. | ||
| I put out a small clip of that on YouTube. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's there. | ||
| Alex Jones drunk as shit on his show. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We don't have Time Warner behind us. | ||
| It's not a hit piece by Time Warner. | ||
| It's not a hit piece, it's just Alex Jones drunk on air. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't know what the answer is, but at the end of the day, I'm really excited and thankful that we do have the people listening that we do. | ||
| That is really awesome. | ||
| I really appreciate the people who have reached out and said they enjoyed the show. | ||
| All that stuff does help me keep moving, even though I have to be inundated with everybody fucking sending me tweets to watch these memes that I know a week later. | ||
| You're so resentful! | ||
| I'm not resentful. | ||
| I'm not mad at them. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Oh, no, absolutely. | ||
| I'm mad at the fact that... | ||
| I know, from my experience with Alex Jones, when someone tweets me these memes, a week later, they're gonna be on his show in a positive light. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So, like, I just don't... | ||
| Yeah, for everybody on Twitter, it exists and then it goes away. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then if you follow along with his narrative, it just becomes part of it, and it is neutralized amongst his people. | ||
| Immediately. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's very impotent. | ||
| And it's not this, like, it's not Super Deluxe's job to... | ||
| I don't even know if they're really interested in actually working against Alex Jones. | ||
| I'm not sure what their goal is. | ||
| Probably just to make... | ||
| Their goal is to make a funny-ass video. | ||
| Get clicks and what have you. | ||
| Humor for humor's sake is not something that I would disagree with. | ||
| Yeah, I don't either, except it's not. | ||
| Unless it's hurtful or something like that. | ||
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It is. | |
| It is. | ||
| Because essentially you're creating a tool that this propagandist will use. | ||
| It's not humor for humor's sake. | ||
| The end result of it is outside of your control. | ||
| You've created something that will be repurposed by someone who believes that almost all rape accusations are fake, racism is a false flag, and globalists control the world, so whatever bigotry that lies in his heart is inconsequential, and everybody should pay attention to his dumb, veiled anti-Semitism. | ||
| So what you're doing is you're helping him. | ||
| And I don't know if people who are making these things don't realize that ahead of time, But I wish they would. | ||
| I wish people would understand that they... | ||
| They're a tool for Alex Jones. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Although, when you say that, though, we can't control how people take this episode, either. | ||
| No. | ||
| We can't control, this is out there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So if it's out there, I'm sure there's a way to find something. | ||
| Like I said at the beginning, if he wants to take a clip of me saying some shit out of context, that's in his narrative, then. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what he's got. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So are you telling me to stop doing this? | ||
| No. | ||
| Because I'll tell you what. | ||
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Jordan. | |
| This show would be nothing without me, Dan! | ||
| I know. | ||
| But Jordan, you have it completely backwards. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because if Alex Jones did that and took you out of context, then we'd get to play the Alex Jones game with him making fun of us. | ||
| You understand? | ||
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Right. | |
| You're flip-flopping the roles. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That I see. | ||
| We are taking him in context and engaging with what he's saying. | ||
| So any attack would have to be taking us out of context or debating the merits of what we're saying. | ||
| Which you can't do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So there isn't really a way to use this propagandistically for him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Whereas a meme, there absolutely is. | ||
| He's already called himself the meme machine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's the king of memes. | ||
| Really, you're just reinforcing that. | ||
| If he is aware of us, he knows that he can't use clips from us. | ||
| And I know that I'm a crank, and I don't like fun, and all that. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| I get that that's my personality. | ||
| But this is more than just that. | ||
| This is sincerely, I believe, it is a moral imperative to not help him. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| Good. | ||
| If you don't want to help him, you can go to our website. | ||
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Where we've started selling poor male vitality. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| We're turning people into beta cucks. | ||
| We have a dropper. | ||
| Put it beneath your tongue. | ||
| It's sublingual. | ||
| And then immediately... | ||
| Takes away a third of your sperms. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You can get that at knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Also, we're on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| You can find us on iTunes. | ||
| Look us up. | ||
| We still don't have a picture. | ||
| And now it has become an act of protest. | ||
| It's an act of resistance. | ||
| Also, you can find us on Facebook. | ||
| Just Knowledge Fight on Facebook. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Facebook! | ||
| Edit that out, Dan. | ||
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No way. | |
| What else? | ||
| If you want to donate to the show, we have a button on knowledgefight.com, support the show, you can become a policy wonk! | ||
| Thank you to everybody who's become policy wonks. | ||
| We appreciate it. | ||
| We have so many people who have been nice, and then now we have more and more people finding the show, which is truly amazing. | ||
| It's not as many as watch that fucking meme, though. | ||
| God damn it, Dan. | ||
| I'm bitter. | ||
| Feel joy. | ||
| I'm bitter. | ||
| Be grateful for what we have, Dan. | ||
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You know what? | |
| I can't. | ||
| We have upwards of 40 million people listening to this show every week. | ||
| I can't be happy with that, and there's only one reason why. | ||
| There's one reason why. | ||
| Because there's one man who still exists in this world. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| And I'm furious about this guy. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Are you doing a bit? | ||
| I am. | ||
| Now I'm actively trying to ruin the closing bit. | ||
| But you didn't need to, because I was also trying to figure out how to pivot that into saying, fuck you, John Rappaport. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |